[00:00] <ld> scjp_: wait still
[00:00] <scjp_> ld,  okie i am gonna switch place i will be back in few minutes
[00:00] <mefisto__> Dr_Willis: it has some script checking for IE or safari on mac
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a site to avoide. :)
[00:01] <mefisto__> yep
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> or use that agent-setting tool to make the browser appear as ie
[00:01] <mefisto__> konq doesn't work either
[00:02] <mefisto__> joe_: check this out too https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[00:04] <scjp_> ld, r u  really busy ?
[00:05] <ld> scjp_: busy, give me 15 mins
[00:05] <arcticpenguin380> what filesystem has less overhead then ext3?
[00:05] <joe_> download helper dont seem to be workin, I will check out that other one mefisto__
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> arcticpenguin380,  ext2
[00:05] <arcticpenguin380> there both the same
[00:05] <scjp_> ld, ok
[00:05] <arcticpenguin380> except the journal
[00:06] <unagi> mefisto__: yes im running compiz
[00:07] <julius__> how do i set my auto config for wireless
[00:10] <julius__> helo
[00:12] <unagi> anyone know why alt +f4 would stop closing windows other than the obvious keyboard shortcuts?
[00:12] <julius__> dose emit need help
[00:15] <julius__> alt f4 , try rebooting
[00:20] <joe_> unagi: have you seen this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223871
[00:20] <unagi> im not running xfce
[00:21] <default_op> does anyone know of  graphical DNS updater utility?
[00:21] <joe_> but be same problem though
[00:21] <unagi> ......
[00:21] <unagi> 2 different desktop managers....
[00:21] <joe_> might be**
[00:22] <joe_> ok, dont try it then
[00:22] <joe_> just figured it is free to try
[00:22] <unagi> how can i try
[00:22] <unagi> im not running xubuntu
[00:22] <unagi> if im running ubuntu, how do i go to the K menu....
[00:23] <joe_> there must be a simular setting in what you are running ?
[00:23] <unagi> correct but as i have said earlier, settings > keyboard shortcuts hasnt worked
[00:24] <edward__> quick noob question - what is the current kernel version I should be seeing in my Kubuntu installation
[00:25] <edward__> ?
[00:25] <joe_> in keyboard shortcuts, what does it say is the keystroke for closing a window?
[00:26] <unagi> alt + f4
[00:26] <joe_> well thats very odd indead
[00:26] <joe_> indeed
[00:27] <unagi> no keystroke works
[00:27] <mefisto__> unagi: maybe compiz keybindings is stealing that alt+F4. does it work if you turn off compiz?
[00:32] <scjp_> ld, whenever you be back just send me two or three messages i am waiting for you !!
[00:33] <ld> scjp_: still busy
[00:47] <user__> Hi I am trying to make the martian drivers for my modem but i get this error /tmp/ccyHGZDV.s:4852: Error: missing operand, can anyone help
[00:48] <feierfox> hi
[00:48] <feierfox> how to auto-shut-down my PC??
[00:48] <Liono_> i need a script that runs on boot. and soon after kde lauches and desktop is visible, it locks screen. 2. i need the script to lock screen 'after every 30 minuts of unlock'    is this right :?
[00:48] <Liono_>   activate screen "DISPLAY=:0.0 kdesktop_lock --forceunlock"
[00:48] <Liono_>   set timeout "at now +60min 'kdesktop_lock --forcelock'"
[00:48] <feierfox> : how to auto-shut-down my PC?
[00:49] <Dr_willis> when do you want it to shut down?
[00:50] <tekteen> do you want it to always shutdown at the same time?
[00:50] <feierfox> half hour
[00:50] <feierfox> after a
[00:51] <feierfox> just need a command
[00:51] <feierfox> want to go to bed now
[00:51] <Dr_willis> halt, or shutdown command.
[00:51] <Dr_willis> but some how it needs to get ran as root in a half an hr.
[00:51] <feierfox> and want to shut down my pc a haldf hour later
[00:51] <Dr_willis> I got my halt command set SUID. (which is not a good idea) , so i could just make a little script that waits 1/2 an hr. then runs it as my user.
[00:52] <Dr_willis> guess ya could use the at command, with sudo.
[00:52] <scjp_> ld, ?
[00:52] <tekteen> the at command?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> man at
[00:53] <Dr_willis>  at      executes commands at a specified time.
[00:53] <feierfox>  shutdown -t 1800 means it will shut down in an half hour?
[00:53] <tekteen> echo "shutdown -h now" | at +30 min
[00:54] <tekteen> no
[00:54] <Dr_willis>  Other  valid  forâ
[00:54] <Dr_willis>        mats  are  +m,  where m is the number of minutes
[00:54] <feierfox> hm?
[00:54] <tekteen> with sudo
[00:54] <tekteen> echo "shutdown -h now" | sudo at +30 min
[00:54] <Dr_willis>  shutdown +m 30
[00:54] <tekteen> no
[00:54] <tekteen> I think mine works
[00:54] <Dr_willis> dozen of ways to do it. :)
[00:54] <tekteen> yep
[00:55] <Dr_willis> sudo shutdown +m 30
[00:55] <Dr_willis> might do it
[00:55] <feierfox> ok...
[00:55] <feierfox> thank you all
[00:55] <feierfox> in a half hour you will see me leave or not :)
[00:55] <feierfox> bye
[00:55] <user__> what packages do i need to make a driver?
[00:55] <user__> !make
[00:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[00:56] <Dr_willis> install build-essential for a start
[00:56] <user__> Dr_willis: Got it still wont make the driver
[00:56] <Dr_willis> user__,  well 'make a driver' is a bit vague
[00:56] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[00:56] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[00:56] <default_op> Can I delete a folder in my home directory called <mount point> ??  it's empty.  I think it's created from a bad folder direction wehn setting up fstab
[00:57] <user__> Dr_willis: I am trying to make the martian modem driver using the source
[00:57] <Dr_willis> default_op,  rm '<dir name>'
[00:57] <user__> Dr_willis: I have build-esentials, make, gcc, cmake and it wont compile
[00:57] <Dr_willis> note the quotes
[00:57] <Dr_willis> or rmdir 'whatever' :)
[00:58] <default_op> Dr_willis: so it's not so important
[00:58] <ld> scjp_: give me more time.........
[00:58] <Dr_willis> still tha trick is the quotes
[00:58] <cpk1> !aptfix
[00:58] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:59] <scjp_> ld, i hope you not gonna leave me alone becoz i am just waiting for you, you are my hope to get this oracle fixed
[01:01] <Liono_> Dr_willis you there
[01:01] <ld> scjp_: i'm still online. i hope i will be able to assist you in couple of minutes
[01:01] <Dr_willis> in and out. :)
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Watching Astro Boy.:)
[01:01] <Liono_> how to auto run a script at boot and keep it running when a user logs in.  (in a way that the user or any other user cant stop that script from running or delete the file or logs out of it)?
[01:02] <Dr_willis> depends on what its doing.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> /etc/rc.local is one place to start things
[01:06] <Liono_> but that will run a thing for ALL users.
[01:06] <Dr_willis> rc.local gets ran befor X even starts up.
[01:06] <Liono_> right?
[01:06] <Dr_willis> it gets ran once.. at system boot.
[01:06] <Liono_> ic
[01:06] <yassine_> i've just installed kubuntu 7.10 kde4..... and i want to install kde3.5.8.. wich commande do i have to execute??
[01:07] <Liono_> Dr_willis and it continues for ever?
[01:07] <Liono_> Dr_willis and it continues running for ever?
[01:07] <Dr_willis> Liono_,  basicially. Unless you some how Kill what you ran. or the program exits. :)
[01:07] <Dr_willis> I normally use rc.local to run  a few services I made up.
[01:07] <SlimeyPete> yassine_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will probably work, but I'm not 100% sure.
[01:09] <Liono_>  is there  a way that in a user login say 'user1' who is not root or admin. a script is run by a sudoer /admin on boot (so he cant stop it) ?
[01:09] <Liono_> Dr_willis ^
[01:09] <p-f> Can anyone tell me what fonts are used in the browser on the left in this screenshot please? http://awesome.naquadah.org/screenshots/2.png (the same question applies for the browser's statusbar)
[01:10] <Dr_willis> things ran on BOOT get ran from rc.local
[01:10] <yassine_> SlimeyPete: i wanted to be sure, it's : sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop..... thks
[01:10] <Dr_willis> or other ways.. how do you expect a user to run somthing. befor the user logs in? :) ya could use su in rc.local to runs omthing as a different user i guess.. dependiong onwhat you are running
[01:10] <Dr_willis> It might be best to tell us what you are trying to run.
[01:11] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:14] <ld> scjp_: i'm available now.
[01:14] <ld> scjp_: where were we? did you reinstall oracle-xe package?
[01:16] <Liono_> Dr_willis ok
[01:17] <adrock358> Hey guys
[01:17] <adrock358> got a question-ola here
[01:18] <adrock358> after I update my system my video card gets screwy, and I can't boot up.  I see all lines of colors and stuff. the only way to fix it is if i unplug my computer to reset the ide settings.
[01:18] <adrock358> Anybody have any suggestions?  I am a complete noob.
[01:19] <Dr_willis> ide settings? How the heck are you resetting ide settings?
[01:19] <Dr_willis> How did you install the video card drivers in the first place? what is the video card?
[01:19] <adrock358> well, i don't know what it is.  it says something about ide settings
[01:19] <Dr_willis> IDE is the hard drive - nothingtodo with the video.
[01:20] <adrock358> i didn't install the video card.  just installed ubuntu from live cd
[01:20] <scjp_> ld, yes i did
[01:20] <Dr_willis> after installing - one of the first things todo is install the proper video card drivers for your video card.
[01:20] <ld> scjp_: i'm downloading oracle-xe now, and i'll try to install and run it
[01:20] <scjp_> ld, but there is no "/etc/init.d/oracle-xe" file
[01:20] <adrock358> hmmm.  cool.  didn't know that.
[01:20] <Dr_willis> same thing i do in windows. :) heh heh..
[01:20] <adrock358> is there a way to find out the name of my card?
[01:20] <ld> scjp_: the package gets 4 mins to download
[01:21] <adrock358> yeah.  i do it in windows too.
[01:21] <scjp_> ld, which  i needed it to configure oracle-xe
[01:21] <Dr_willis> its your machine.. look in the docs? inside the case?  what drivers do you install in windows?
[01:21] <scjp_> ld, i hope you will be able to configure the oracle-xe and then send me the missing files i dont have
[01:21] <ld> scjp_: what os are you using?
[01:21] <scjp_> ld, i am using ubuntu, kubuntu both
[01:22] <ld> scjp_: what version?
[01:22] <scjp_> ld, i dont know about the version of kubuntu but ubuntu gutsy 7.10 wait let me check the version of kubuntu
[01:23] <adrock358> here's my driver Dr_willis Video:Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller Driver
[01:23] <Dr_willis> I know very little about the intel video cards. Not sure what if anything needs tobe installed for them
[01:23] <Dr_willis> !inetl
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <Dr_willis> !intel
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <scjp_> ld, kubuntu version 7.10 gutsy
[01:23] <Dr_willis> I do know thers some issues with some intel chipsets - on occasion.
[01:24] <adrock358> hmm this si crazy.  got to hit google.  i'll be right back
[01:24] <Dr_willis> I would say check theubuntu/kubuntu forums for that exact video card/chipset
[01:24] <adrock358> k thanks
[01:26] <Liono_>  how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?
[01:26] <adrock358> dr_willis.  what's the chipset?
[01:27] <Dr_willis> 82845G/
[01:27] <Dr_willis> in your case
[01:27] <adrock358> nice
[01:29] <ld> scjp_: package downloaded. installing it..
[01:30] <ld> scjp_: i have not enough swap space and i need to add some
[01:31] <scjp_> ld, http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html <----
[01:35] <ld> scjp_: i did 'dpkg -i oracle-xe_10.2.0.1-1.0_i386.deb' and installation went ok
[01:36] <ld> scjp_: there was problem about libaio but i quickly solved by by 'apt-get install libaio'
[01:37] <scjp_> ld, alrite but did you configure it
[01:37] <ld> scjp_: yes, no problems
[01:38] <scjp_> ld, alrite can you access the web-interface of it
[01:38] <ld> scjp_: if it is possible we could change to private channel and you could paste every output of installation progress...
[01:38] <scjp_> okie
[01:39] <scjp_> ld, send me a private message
[01:40] <ld> i am not registered user, maybe my message was forbidden
[01:41] <scjp_> okie why not register it with the one command
[01:42] <scjp_> ld, or you can chat with me on messenger
[01:44] <ld666> scjp_: i'm now registered as user ld666 :)
[01:48]  * Liono_ sees no one knows his problems in 11 channels and 4 networks 2500 users !
[01:49] <Dr_willis> gee Liono_  i dident even see you state a problem here lately.
[01:50] <Liono_> Dr_willis ok. here goes
[01:50] <selckin> you need cron and 10min of bash scripting
[01:50] <Liono_>  how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?
[01:50] <Liono_> Dr_willis ^
[01:51] <Dr_willis> are they being logged now somewhere?
[01:51] <foibles> is there some sort of codec you need to play high definition properly?
[01:51] <foibles> the video files i have keep coming out rendered wrong
[01:51] <foibles> or not at all
[01:51] <foibles> even with vlc player
[01:51] <Dr_willis> You are refering to the screen saver locking? or a lptop screen power saving?
[01:51] <Dr_willis> foibles,  just whatever codec the file is in.
[01:52] <Liono_> Dr_willis ctrl + alt + L        screen lock. similer to screen saver
[01:52] <Dr_willis> foibles,  there was some issues/bug  i recall with some nvidia cards/video playback
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Liono_,  ive never noticed any of that stuff getting logged anywere. Its possible that gnome or kde may have some event handler for it. But ive never seen it mentioned.
[01:53] <Liono_> see.
[01:53] <Dr_willis> The #kde guys may have info on it.
[01:53] <Liono_> nop
[01:53] <Liono_> 2500 dont
[01:53] <Dr_willis> I dont even know why you would want to  log when the screensaver kicks in. :)
[01:54] <Artimus> I'm having troubles, I'm unable to change my resolution, I'm stuck at 1024x768.  I can't switch to 800x600 in KDE or with xrandr.  Anyone have any idea?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> guess you could poll the processes every 20 sec or so and see if the screen locker is running.. and make a note somewhere in a file.
[01:54] <Dr_willis> !fixres | Artimus
[01:54] <ubotu> Artimus: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:54] <biovore> Artimus: probably xorg setup wrong.. see if 800x600 is set as a resolution
[01:54] <Dr_willis> Its possible your Monitor is not set right. also.
[01:55] <Artimus> biovore: Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:55] <Artimus> Dr_willis: It's set to the same values I've been using for 4 years
[01:55] <Artimus> I blame the nvidia driver for this...
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Artimus,  possibially true. :)
[01:56] <biovore> possibly.. nvidia does like to do weird stuff..
[01:56] <Artimus> I can force a resolution change with nvidia-settings...
[01:56] <Dr_willis> I normally just set 1 res. and leave it at that.
[01:56] <biovore> they broke alot of stuff with geforce 8 series on linux
[01:56] <Artimus> Dr_willis: Tell that to my games.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> to use the xrandr thing - dosent one have to enable the proper xrand feature in the xorg.conf also.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> I run all my games at my lcd's native res.  so sue me. :)
[01:57] <Dr_willis> But i rarely game under linux.
[01:57] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the alt-ctrl-Numpad + and - will work to change your res.
[01:57] <the_darkside_986> hi everyone. does anyone have information on changing the height of the top desktop menu bar (which is not shown by default)
[01:58] <scjp_> ld666, ????
[01:58] <Artimus> Dr_willis: Nope.  That uses xrandr, I believe.
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Artimus,  i think that was a feature way way befor xrandr was around.. but who knows what xorg changed. :)
[01:59] <cpk1> !madwifi
[01:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:59] <Artimus> This might be it...  Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false".  I had a different value set, it might have been wrong...
[01:59] <Jahromeo> I need help my adept keeps performing illegal operation type things and closing down
[01:59] <Artimus> (I had "UseEDID" "false", not sure if that does anything.  Worth a try)
[01:59] <ld666> scjp_: i think private messaging does not work here, because i'm not registered member
[01:59] <scjp_> ld666, okie  do you have msn id ?
[02:00] <ld666> scjp_: i just became registered a few minutes ago and i have no idea why it does not work
[02:00] <ld666> scjp_: no i dont
[02:00] <Dr_willis> UseEdid i think tries to grab the proper 'modes' information from your monitor.  - its possible the moniotr is not reporting the right info. thus X wont let you go to a mode it dont  think the moniot can handle.
[02:00] <Artimus> Nope, looks like UseEDID alone should have taken care of it.
[02:01] <Artimus> Dr_willis: UseEDID "False" disables any EDID features...  I've already got that one, so that's not it.
[02:01] <scjp_> ld666, how about that give that command /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>
[02:01] <ld666> scjp_: i did that
[02:02] <Jahromeo> my adept keeps closing down due to errors - can anyone help me reinstall it?
[02:02] <cpk1>  using the stock feisty kernel and cant seem to get madwifi to work, tried using restricted modules and compiling madwifi from trunk svn but still cant insert ath_pci... any idea why?
[02:02] <scjp_> ld666, did you have any messenger id you use ?
[02:03] <scjp_> ld666, skype ?
[02:04] <Stratman4300> what's the command to restart kicker???
[02:04] <ld666> scjp_: now i'm in intermediate environment, best option is irc
[02:04] <ubuntu_> test
[02:05] <ubuntu_> does anyone happen to know why when I boot from the cd it doesnt let me log in as root
[02:05] <Dr_willis> the live cd has no root user password.
[02:05] <Dr_willis> you can just 'sudo -i' i think to get a root shell
[02:06] <ubuntu_> is there a way to load my desktop preferences
[02:06] <scjp_> ld666, okie so if you paste the oracle-xe file contents to pastebin , i want to run the oracle-xe file to check otherwise i am out of the options
[02:06] <ld666> scjp_: let's try it
[02:07] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  load them from a installed system to the live cd? Hmm.. Guess ya could copy stuff from  /whevermounted/home/user name to /home/username
[02:07] <maybeway36> recursively
[02:07] <Artimus> Well, without restarting X, resolution switching is working again.  Sure, why not...
[02:07] <Stratman4300> !kicker
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <scjp_> ld666, okie
[02:07] <Dr_willis> Magic :)
[02:08] <Artimus> Dr_willis: I added a few lines to xorg.  xrandr might have picked up on that.  Or magic.
[02:08] <ubuntu_> i booted frpm the cd.  I am just trying to log in as my root acct on the hd
[02:09] <ld666> scjp_: http://pastebin.com/m59f59e8a
[02:09] <Dr_willis> Eleven Tux Magic.
[02:09] <ubuntu_> i know if you let it close kicker its a pain to get your desktop back\
[02:10] <Artimus> Alt+F2 kicker Enter
[02:10] <ubuntu_> i dont think u need sudo at all if u boot from the cd
[02:10] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you can 'chroot' over to the hd's system with the proper use of the chroot command..  depends on what you are trying to do as to whats best.
[02:10] <ubuntu_> just log in really
[02:11] <ubuntu_> _maybe_ work on vega strike development
[02:11] <the_darkside_986> afaik, everything admin must be done with "sudo" on the live cd. like grub and mounting. i know this from experience :|
[02:12] <scjp_> ld666, command not found same error message even the damn file oracle-xe exists
[02:13] <ld666> scjp_: try to figure out which command was not found
[02:13] <scjp_> ld666, oracle-xe command
[02:14] <oem> hello
[02:14] <oem> need to connect to my openssh-server
[02:14] <ld666> scjp_:  maybe you forgot to 'chmod +x /etc/init.d/oracle-xe'
[02:15] <scjp_> ld666, same thing
[02:15] <scjp_> ld666, just wana cry
[02:17] <scjp_> ld666, should i change the port number or leave it as default 8080
[02:17] <Liono_>  how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?
[02:17] <ld666> if you created /etc/init.d/oracle-xe file properly and you made it executable, there should be no error like 'oracle-xe command not found'
[02:18] <scjp_> ld666, should i change the port number or leave it as default 8080
[02:18] <ld666> scjp_: if there is no other software binding to that port, there should be no reson to change it
[02:18] <the_darkside_986> i can't find the local config file for the KDE top-menu-bar... i want to put a Kubuntu icon in it and resize it to half size. by default it is too large and looks out of place. any ideas?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> the #kde guys may know.
[02:20] <scjp_> ld666, now got loads of errors
[02:20] <the_darkside_986> oh ok
[02:20] <ld666> scjp_: you can check if any software is using port 8080 by commands: 'fuser -n tcp 8080' or 'netstat -nls | grep 8080'
[02:20] <ld666> scjp_: tell me exactly the error messages
[02:21] <scjp_> ld666, http://rifers.org/paste/show/6695
[02:21] <ubuntu_> apt-get update is not considered _admin_ ?
[02:22] <ubuntu_> cant run apt-get install even with sudo
[02:23] <Dr_willis> Installing stuff to when booting off the live cd - with the apt-get stuff.. is not doable i think.
[02:23] <ld666> scjp_: if the default /usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/server/network/admin/listener.ora file could not be created during installation, there would be a message about it
[02:23] <Dr_willis> If you chroot to the installed system. you can then install stuff
[02:23] <ld666> scjp_: please try to pass log from installing the oracle-xe package
[02:24] <scjp_> ld666, okie there is no file created at the name of listener.ora at that directory
[02:25] <scjp_> ld666, if you have a look on your installation directory you should have listener.ora file, if you can pass me that one, i will just make one
[02:25] <ld666> scjp_: that should not be the case here. either oracle gets installed and creates listener.ora, or it had fatal error during installation...
[02:26] <scjp_> ld666, okie let me pass you the log fie
[02:26] <ubuntu_> did i say thanks
[02:26] <ubuntu_> thanks
[02:27] <scjp_> ld666, how should i find the log file, r we looking for the listener.log file
[02:27] <scjp_> ld666, ?
[02:28] <ubuntu_> is there a way to run vega strike on the dinosaur that is my athlon k7t?
[02:28] <ld666> scjp_: there should be some output of 'dpkg -i oracle-xe_10.2.0.1-1.0_i386.deb'
[02:28] <adrock358> Dr_willis.  i'm back.  i have a question about my video driver.  I went to the ubuntu page to look at how to install my video driver.  However, there are two different options, and I am unsure which to pick.  if you coould help me out I would be in your debt forever.  the link it here, in case you wanted to look at it.  thanks.  I'm under Intel.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56285/
[02:28] <ld666> scjp_: that is not ordinary...
[02:29] <scjp_> ld666, okie there is just only one log file called listener.log in the log folder
[02:30] <Dr_willis> adrock358,  what was yiour chipset anyway?
[02:31] <ld666> scjp_: i think private chat started working from now... it will be much easier if we could paste some lines instantenously...
[02:32] <ld666> scjp_: let me know if you received my msg on prv
[02:33] <adrock358> 82845G
[02:35] <Dr_willis> none of that info really seems to apply.
[02:36] <adrock358> darn
[02:36] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553741 mentio  Check for video memory setting in the BIOS. Set it at 8192 KB.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> !info i915
[02:37] <ubotu> Package i915 does not exist in gutsy
[02:37] <Dr_willis> !find i915
[02:37] <ubotu> Package/file i915 does not exist in gutsy
[02:37] <Israphel> !find gedit
[02:37] <ubotu> Found: gedit-plugins, moaggedit, gedit, gedit-common, gedit-dev
[02:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[02:38] <Israphel> what are you looking for
[02:38] <Liono_> how to change system log behaviour. to include things or details. verbose.  etc?
[02:39] <Dr_willis> info on 82845G  intel video under gutys
[02:39] <adrock358> dr_willis  yeah.  I guess i'll try to reset the video memory setting and see what that does.  i'll be back.
[02:41] <kyled185> I'm curious, how would I go about finding out why my laptop runs so d*** hot sometimes?
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Beause you are a leet haxor? :)
[02:45] <kyled185> Dr_willis: ?
[02:45] <Dr_willis> hmmm?
[02:45] <kyled185> *confused*
[02:46] <kyled185> Dr_willis: were you talking to me?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> its possible your cpu isent throttling down.  kyled185
[02:47] <Dr_willis> theres some extra power saving tools/packages you couldisntall. or test out the powertop  tool and its suggestions.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> !powertop
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powertop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <kyled185> Dr_willis: well, the nvidia proprietary driver is retarded and causes glitches/hangs when it speeds down/up so the current workaround is to disable that
[02:49] <kyled185> Dr_willis: would that make heat billow up from underneath my laptop's keyboard and make my fingers sweat?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Yep. Video card and cpu run so hot these days. without the right drivers they  get real warm.
[02:51] <kyled185> meh, nvidia might have easier drivers to install, but they are just crap when it comes down to it
[02:51] <Jahromeo> what would string be to get skype from konsole - sudo apt-get install skype?"
[02:51] <Jahromeo> what would string be to get skype from konsole - sudo apt-get install skype
[02:51] <Dr_willis> !info skype
[02:51] <ubotu> Package skype does not exist in gutsy
[02:51] <Jahromeo> its in medibuntu
[02:51] <Jahromeo> which ive added
[02:52] <Dr_willis> do an apt-cache search skype then.
[02:52] <Jahromeo> i cant use adept tho as its unstable as hell and perma crashes
[02:52] <Dr_willis> and see what it shows.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> install/use synaptic if you want
[02:52] <kyled185> personally I think adept is a little better
[02:52] <kyled185> er
[02:52] <kyled185> synaptic
[02:52] <kyled185>  /drunk
[02:52] <Jahromeo> jerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ sudo apt-get install skype-common
[02:52] <Jahromeo> Reading package lists... Done
[02:52] <Jahromeo> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:52] <Jahromeo> whats up with that
[02:52] <Dr_willis> i find adept bordering on the usless. :)
[02:53] <Jahromeo> it comes up under my apt-get search
[02:53] <Dr_willis> sounds bad...
[02:53] <eddy> HI again...
[02:53] <Jahromeo> do adept/synaptic do the same thing
[02:53] <Jahromeo> just diff ways of doing it?
[02:53] <Jahromeo> had synaptic in pclinux
[02:53] <Dr_willis> they are all front ends to the apt-get tools
[02:53] <Jahromeo> k
[02:53] <biovore> there graphical front ends to the CLI apt-get command
[02:54] <Israphel> they do the same
[02:54] <eddy> someone know about a anjuta anjuta tutorial
[02:54] <Israphel> with different colour
[02:54] <Dr_willis> if apt-get is core dumping.. thats bad..
[02:54] <eddy> in spanish preferably
[02:54] <Israphel> en gallego, a ver si encuentro
[02:54] <eddy> spanish avaliable
[02:54] <Jahromeo> jerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ sudo apt-get install skype-common
[02:54] <Jahromeo> Reading package lists... Done
[02:54] <Jahromeo> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:55] <biovore> probably a hardware problem
[02:55] <Jahromeo> jerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:55] <Jahromeo> Reading package lists... Done
[02:55] <Jahromeo> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:55] <Jahromeo> what the hell is up with that
[02:55] <Dr_willis> or a nasty currupted data file for the apt settings
[02:55] <biovore> could be a corrupted file somewhere
[02:55] <Jahromeo> my adept etc is broken
[02:55] <Jahromeo> my adept auto crashes when opened
[02:55] <biovore> or hardware failure
[02:55] <Israphel> tutorial http://barrapunto.com/articles/07/09/02/2256235.shtml
[02:55] <Jahromeo> i had no issues in pclinux
[02:55] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  yes.. we get  it.. :)  somthingis broke with your apt system.
[02:55] <Israphel> eddy http://barrapunto.com/articles/07/09/02/2256235.shtml
[02:56] <Jahromeo> anyone care to help me fix it? this is a bloody fresh install
[02:56] <Jahromeo> only installed it today and i havnt even used adept yet
[02:56] <Dr_willis> for a start you may want to  boot the live cd. and fsck the filesystem.
[02:56] <Dr_willis> its possible theres some disk issue.
[02:56] <biovore> Jahromeo: dmesg have any weirdness in it about your harddisk..
[02:56] <kyled185> or run memtest86
[02:57] <Dr_willis> yea - check dmesg output also.
[02:57] <Jahromeo> you guys are missing the point - this partition just worked 100% with kde pclinux
[02:57] <Jahromeo> 100%
[02:57] <Jahromeo> and its just been formatted again
[02:57] <biovore> that dosn't mean squat torwards what might be wrong
[02:57] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  so what do you want us to do then? It used to work.. your logic implies that its still working....
[02:57] <Jahromeo> problem with my kbuntu install came when it was mirroring repos it got stuck forever then fsckd up sources list
[02:58] <Dr_willis> yep. Possible the adept packages/settings got messed up.
[02:58] <ign0ramus> hello all.  could someone please look at this error message and perhaps give me some insight as to what's going wrong? --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56287/
[02:58] <Jahromeo> no way to just fix adept from konsole?
[02:58] <Dr_willis> try an 'apt-get --version' command ? :) see if tha works
[02:58] <Dr_willis> adept is a front end to the apt-get commands.
[02:58] <Jahromeo> apt 0.7.6ubuntu14 for i386 compiled on Oct 15 2007 20:39:10
[02:58] <Dr_willis> if those are crashing - adept aint going tobe working either.
[02:59] <Dr_willis> at leat it dident crash. :)
[02:59] <Dr_willis> try a 'sudo apt-get update'  ? see if that crashes
[02:59] <maltron> Hi all.  Can anyone help me get sound working on my gutsy 64 bit system?  I have a Soundblaster live card (I've tried several others as well) and so far as I can tell the sound system is up and running, but I get no output
[02:59] <biovore> lappy% md5sum /usr/bin/apt-get
[02:59] <biovore> 831133ffe61cd4f97d02fbe61c3f20ec  /usr/bin/apt-get  -- x86
[02:59] <biovore> SB Live should work..
[03:00] <biovore> use alsamixer from the command line..
[03:00] <biovore> the sound setup is kinda funky in my opinion
[03:00] <Jahromeo> Segmentation fault (core dumped) - apt get keeps throwing that out
[03:00] <maltron> biovore: funky in a good way?
[03:00] <Israphel> we are two
[03:00] <kyled185> maltron: I used to have a soundblaster card and everytime I installed a new linux distro it would default to be muted
[03:00] <Israphel> i don't think so
[03:00] <biovore> maltron: funky in a bad way..
[03:01] <biovore> maltron: all the sound drivers all homebrew affairs
[03:01] <maltron> i see...
[03:01] <biovore> maltron: some cards work well others don't
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  i would sya ask in #ubuntu , someone in there may be better at trouble shooting apt problems.
[03:01] <Jahromeo> thanks
[03:01] <biovore> Jahromeo: what the md5 check sum on /usr/bin/apt-get?
[03:02] <maltron> biovore, kyled185: yeah, I've swapped cards a few times. NOrmally they just work though.  On this machine I used to get sound, but now nothing... bit confused.
[03:02] <biovore> !sound
[03:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:02] <Dr_willis> if youve swapped out sound cards. You may need to reconfogiure alsa to see/use the new card
[03:02] <oloughlin75> alsaconf might help whoever is having sound issues
[03:02] <adrock358> Dr_willis.  I'm back.  did you mean the video buffer?  the options are 1 and 8.
[03:03] <maltron> Dr_willis: as in "sudo apt-get reconfigure alsa"?
[03:03] <Dr_willis> adrock358,  no idea. im just repeating what ive seen on the forums/threads. a lot of them are out of date.
[03:03] <adrock358> thanks
[03:03] <Dr_willis> maltron,  that may be needed
[03:03] <adrock358> i'll check it out
[03:03] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[03:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:03] <oloughlin75> maltron: run sudo alsaconf from the konsole, too
[03:04] <oloughlin75> itll search for hardware and aply the driver
[03:07] <maltron> ok, looks like I need to install some stuff... hang on...
[03:07] <BluesKaj> maltron, let's see if your soundcard is seen first of all: cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:08] <maltron> maltron@keats:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:08] <maltron>  0 [V8237          ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[03:08] <maltron>                       VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0x1000, irq 22
[03:08] <maltron>  1 [Live           ]: EMU10K1 - SBLive! Value [CT4832]
[03:08] <maltron>                       SBLive! Value [CT4832] (rev.8, serial:0x80271102) at 0xb800, irq 18
[03:08] <maltron> seems to be there
[03:08] <maltron> and recognised
[03:08] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep audio ..to find the name
[03:08] <eddy> THANKS
[03:09] <maltron> 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
[03:10] <BluesKaj> maltron, asoundconf set-default-card "EMU10k1"
[03:13] <Jahromeo> biovre how do i check the md5checksum?
[03:13] <maltron> okay, so far no joy
[03:14] <BluesKaj> maltron, have done sound system setup in system settings /hardware
[03:14] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:14] <biovore> Jahromeo: md5sum /usr/bin/apt-get
[03:16] <maltron> BluesKaj: where exaclty do you mean?  Which menu?
[03:16] <maltron> BluesKaj
[03:16] <maltron> i think I found the menu
[03:16] <Jahromeo> biovore htink unbutu channel solved my issue
[03:16] <Jahromeo>  pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin
[03:16] <Jahromeo> deleted those
[03:16] <BluesKaj> maltron,k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,click apply
[03:18] <maltron> BluesKaj: it's repeatedly restarting the sound system.  Gets to 90% then starts back at 5% and works upwards again
[03:18] <maltron> BluesKaj: it's in a loop
[03:18] <BluesKaj> ok, then just exit
[03:19] <maltron> oh hang on
[03:19] <maltron> it just worked then
[03:19] <maltron> maybe because some software was installing
[03:19] <maltron> ok
[03:19] <maltron> now to test the sound
[03:20] <maltron> BluesKaj: okay, still nothing
[03:20] <maltron> alsaplayer gives me this message:
[03:20] <maltron> snd_pcm_open: No such device (default)
[03:20] <maltron> Failed to initialize plugin!
[03:20] <maltron> "/usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libalsa_out.so failed to load"
[03:20] <maltron> NOTE: THIS IS THE NULL PLUGIN.      YOU WILL NOT HEAR SOUND!!
[03:21] <BluesKaj> maltron, whew , never seen a message like that before
[03:21] <maltron> BluesKaj: and that was just the tail!
[03:22] <oloughlin75> reinstall from source?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type alsamixer
[03:22] <maltron> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:23] <BluesKaj> maltron, go on the internet and search for a linux driver for you soundblaster card
[03:24] <maltron> BluesKaj: well the modules seem to be loaded
[03:24] <BluesKaj> that's all I can suggest for now ...unless someone else has some ideas, cuz it looks like the driver isn't installed
[03:25] <maltron> BluesKaj: from lspci: snd_pcm                94344  5 snd_emu10k1,snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[03:25] <maltron> emu10k1 is my card!
[03:26] <BluesKaj> yes and the driver looks like it' isn't installed
[03:27] <maltron> well it comes up in lsmod... I thought that meant it was installed?  I'll check the internet anyway, but as far as I can tell the kernel modules are installed
[03:28] <BluesKaj> if alsa doesn't see the driver , that no such device message usually comes up
[03:28] <oloughlin75> maltron: did you try doing alsaconf in terminal?
[03:28] <maltron> oloughlin75: you mean asoundconf
[03:28] <maltron> ?
[03:28] <oloughlin75> no, alsaconf
[03:29] <BluesKaj> alsaconf ?
[03:29] <oloughlin75> sudo alsaconf
[03:29] <maltron> -bash: alsaconf: command not found
[03:29] <oloughlin75> hmm, must be new to alsa 1.0.15/16?
[03:29] <maltron> I tried looking for it but couldn't find it in the repositories
[03:29] <maltron>  I thought you must mean asoundconf
[03:30] <oloughlin75> ALSA CONFIGURATOR, it scans your hardware and looks for and isntalls the right driver
[03:30] <maltron> what package is it in?
[03:30] <oloughlin75> maltron: im guessing alsa-utils
[03:31] <maltron> already installed, no such command
[03:31] <oloughlin75> must be from the newer version of alsa
[03:32] <maltron> oloughlin75: seems to have been removed from gutsy
[03:33] <oloughlin75> maltron: yes, i am reading the thread about it
[03:34] <Jahromeo> removed adept for synaptic
[03:34] <Jahromeo> so much less buggy
[03:34] <Jahromeo> and crash free
[03:35] <oloughlin75> maltron: Did you try reinstall alsa-driver alsa-lib and alsa-utils?
[03:36] <maltron> no, i'll give that a shot
[03:36] <maltron> I'm chekcing out a web page on sound in ubuntu that might help
[03:36] <maltron> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:37] <oloughlin75> maltron: to reinstall,right click and mark them as reinstall in adept
[03:38] <oloughlin75> alsa-driver alsa-lib and alsa-utils
[03:38] <maltron> I''LL do it through apt-get
[03:38] <oloughlin75> k
[03:39] <maltron> or not, because alsa-lib isn't a package...
[03:39] <oloughlin75> its called something different in the repos, sorry
[03:39] <oloughlin75> alsa-base is one
[03:40] <oloughlin75> alsa-utils
[03:40] <oloughlin75> is the other
[03:41] <maltron> what about libasound etc?
[03:41] <maltron> libasound2
[03:41] <oloughlin75> i dont know
[03:42] <oloughlin75> you should only need to reinstal alsa-base and alsa-utils
[03:42] <maltron> ok I've selected them anyway
[03:42] <maltron> won't hurt
[03:42] <oloughlin75> lol
[03:42] <oloughlin75> alsa is a pain
[03:43] <maltron> yeah... although it's never been this painful before!
[03:44] <maltron> no, I lie - it was when it still had to be compiled from source and wasn't part of the kernel
[03:44] <maltron> ok
[03:44] <maltron> I've reinstalled them
[03:45] <maltron> oloughlin75: still no sound
[03:45] <oloughlin75> try restarting
[03:45] <oloughlin75> so everything gets loaded fresh
[03:45] <maltron> ok
[03:46] <oloughlin75> maltron: have you ever had sound with your sound card?
[03:47] <maltron> oloughlin75: with a previous card, yes, but this one was given to me by a friend, because I thought the old one must have been busted
[03:47] <maltron> I also have onboard sound which doesn't work
[03:47] <oloughlin75> whats the new card?
[03:47] <maltron> 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08
[03:47] <BluesKaj> SB cards are pretty std ...don't see why alsa doesn't see it
[03:48] <maltron> BluesKaj: could it be because the cards are conflicting?
[03:48] <maltron> The machine came with a different sound card which seemed to work for a while
[03:48] <juan_> alguien habla español??
[03:48] <oloughlin75> !es | juan
[03:48] <ubotu> juan: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:48] <maltron> I think at the time I had problems with my headphones, so I thought it was the card and replaced it
[03:49] <maltron> headphones were dodgy, so I solved that problem, but the sound hasn't really worked since
[03:49] <BluesKaj> maltron, 2 sound cards ?
[03:49] <maltron> 1 onboard, 1 pci
[03:49] <maltron> then I swapped the pci one for a different one, then I swapped it again for the SB
[03:50] <BluesKaj> oh geez , whay didn't you say so ? BIOS has to be reset in Peripherals to disable one card , you make the choice
[03:50] <tj__> how would i switch compiz on and off i can't find the option
[03:51] <maltron> BluesKaj: Sorry mate, I thought I did!
[03:52] <maltron> BluesKaj: thing is it came with two cards and worked when I first got it... okay, so reboot, go into bios and disable the onboard sound?  I do remember trying that a while back and couldn't find anything in the bios, but I'll give it another go
[03:52] <maltron> back in a minute
[03:52] <oloughlin75> !compiz
[03:52] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:52] <BluesKaj> maltron, can you do that , open the BIOS and disable the onboard (most Likely)
[03:52] <maltron> will do
[03:52] <maltron> back in a couple of minutes
[03:52] <maltron> rebooting....
[03:53] <tj__> i have it installed i just want to switch it off when i go to play a game
[03:53] <BluesKaj> maltron," peripherals " in the BIOS
[03:53] <tj__> and does anyone know where the mic settings are
[03:54] <BluesKaj> alsamixer , then kmix
[03:54] <tj__> just type in cli?
[03:54] <BluesKaj> alsamixer yes
[03:55] <BluesKaj> kmix is the little speaker icon in the panel
[03:55] <tj__> ok alsamixer is up what do i do
[03:56] <BluesKaj> unmute any ctrls with the M key , then use the uo arrow key to increase the volume to 71 or so
[03:56] <BluesKaj> up arrow
[03:57] <BluesKaj> unmute = 00\
[03:57] <maltron> BluesKaj: sorry, was rebooting
[03:57] <maltron> I disabled onboard sound
[03:57] <BluesKaj> maltron, did you find the peripherals ?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> good
[03:57] <maltron> no, just onboard sound, and I disabled it
[03:58] <maltron> it was in the "onboard devices" menu
[03:58] <maltron> ok
[03:58] <BluesKaj> now run cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:58] <maltron> still getting two sound cards
[03:58] <BluesKaj> gawd
[03:59] <maltron> lemme try again
[03:59] <maltron> I'll be back in a couple of minutes.  Rebooting again!
[03:59] <oloughlin75> maltron: it might be easiest to just compile from source
[04:00] <maltron> hmm, not keen on that route.  Alsa and source code is painful!  Plus, I know it worked once upon a time, so I'd like to fix it.  I'm sure it can be done...
[04:02] <tj__> ok my mic works but  not in teamspeak and i hear a echo of everything
[04:03] <Liono_> wine.. and virtualisation? any other method used to play non native linux games?
[04:03] <tj__> even typeing its kinda cool
[04:03] <tj__> cedega
[04:03] <tj__> liono- cedega
[04:04] <hydrogen> cedega is wine
[04:04] <hydrogen> pretty much
[04:04] <tj__> yeah true but its tweaked to run games better u can get it free off thepiratebay.org
[04:05] <oloughlin75> !piracy
[04:05] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[04:06] <tj__> they ripped off wine and used their code iots not piracy
[04:06] <BluesKaj> oloughlin75, you should direct the post to tj__
[04:06] <maltron> oloughlin75, BluesKaj: okay, I have sound.
[04:07] <maltron> oloughlin75, BluesKaj: strangely alsaplayer doesn't work still
[04:07] <maltron> same error message as before
[04:07] <maltron> but mplayer works
[04:07] <Dr_willis> cedega is legal.. thepiratebay - is questionable.. :)
[04:07] <tj__> got my mic working thanks and no echo
[04:07] <BluesKaj> alsaplayer is iffy , stick with amarok
[04:07] <maltron> BluesKaj: yeah, cool.  Just thought it should work with alsa!
[04:07] <tj__> thanks good doctor
[04:07] <adrock358> Dr_willis.  The solution was to install start-up manager, and fix my screen resolution.
[04:08] <oloughlin75> maltron: sound isnt enough for you?! :D
[04:08] <BluesKaj> maltron, alsa is still being used with amarok
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> and getting cedega from the pirate bay is not legal.
[04:08] <adrock358> Does anyone know what the best streaming media prog is?
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> and supporting cedega is not right.
[04:08] <maltron> BluesKaj: yeah, amarok works.  I mean I guess that I thought alsaplayer would have been the ideal tool to test alsa, but I guess not!
[04:08] <maltron>  BluesKaj, oloughlin: thanks heaps guys, I really appreciate it
[04:09] <oloughlin75> maltron: just dont break it!
[04:09] <maltron> hehehe
[04:09] <maltron> no worries
[04:09] <maltron> I'll keep that in mind!
[04:09] <BluesKaj> yeah maltron , very few ppl use the alsaplayer
[04:09] <BluesKaj> well folks , it's off to the sack time
[04:09] <oloughlin75> what -is- alsaplayer?
[04:09] <maltron> good night
[04:09] <BluesKaj> nite  all
[04:10] <oloughlin75> night
[04:10] <maltron> oloughlin75: alsaplayer is a redundant program which clearly nobody should ever use because it doesn't actually work!
[04:10] <oloughlin75> alrighty -- i dont think i have it on my system anyway
[04:11] <maltron> i installed it I think just a few minutes ago, as I thought, given that it's an alsa program, that it would be useful
[04:11] <maltron> actually it isn't!
[04:11] <adrock358> streaming media players anyone?  i installed vlc, but it won't play from this one site.  I'll have to look into that.
[04:11] <oloughlin75> adrock358: try the mplayer mozilla plugin
[04:12] <oloughlin75> !find mplayer mozzila
[04:12] <ubotu> Found: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, kmplayer-doc, python-templayer (and 12 others)
[04:12] <WhereAmI_> 1TB sata 16MB cache hard drive 230$ at best buy
[04:12] <oloughlin75> !find mplayer mozilla
[04:13] <oloughlin75> WhereAmI_:  werent they like $500 a few months ago?
[04:13] <WhereAmI_> kinda
[04:13] <WhereAmI_> 320$ still on the official site
[04:13] <WhereAmI_> gotta love technology
[04:13] <WhereAmI_> but this is the cheapest one I've seen recently
[04:14] <tj__> how do i switch desktop manager from compiz
[04:15] <oloughlin75> tj__:  in termal type sudo metacity --replace &
[04:16] <oloughlin75> tj__:  if that doesnt work it should be kwin --replace
[04:18] <Jahromeo> hey guys what is compiz-fusion install called in kubuntu? is it kde-compiz?
[04:19] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo: you need more than that
[04:20] <oloughlin75> you need to gett all these commands:
[04:20] <oloughlin75> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[04:20] <oloughlin75> compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common
[04:20] <Jahromeo> letting synaptic handle that for now
[04:20] <oloughlin75> alright -- compiz-kde :)
[04:20] <Jahromeo> thanks
[04:21] <Jahromeo> ummm how can i check what nvidiai drivers 7.10 install by default?
[04:22] <Jahromeo> is their a konsole command to see what video drives im running?
[04:23] <oloughlin75> the xorg.conf file will tell you
[04:23] <oloughlin75> kate /etc.X11.xorg.conf
[04:24] <oloughlin75> do NOT sudo it
[04:24] <Jahromeo> ./etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[04:24] <Jahromeo> right?
[04:24] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo: yes
[04:24] <oloughlin75> no . in the begining
[04:24] <htth> Can anyone here help me compile a modem driver?
[04:25] <Jahromeo> its empty apparently oloughin
[04:25] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo:
[04:25] <oloughlin75> hit alt+f2
[04:25] <oloughlin75> and type in
[04:25] <oloughlin75> kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:25] <oloughlin75> the driver is under the device section
[04:26] <oloughlin75> Driver		"nvidia" or "nv"
[04:26] <Jahromeo> it says nv
[04:27] <Jahromeo> i want to know what version
[04:27] <oloughlin75> oh, im not sure how to tel which version specifically
[04:27] <biovore> nv is the opensource driver.. nvidia is the closed source one from nvidia
[04:27] <Jahromeo> isnt there a driver version like pclinux has 100.xx and 169.xx
[04:27] <Jahromeo> etc
[04:27] <biovore> yes
[04:28] <biovore> its in nvidia-settings
[04:28] <biovore> I think its also shows up in dmesg
[04:28] <biovore> the nvidia driver from the repos I think is 169.xxx
[04:29] <Jahromeo> where do i find nvidia settings?
[04:29] <biovore> open a shell
[04:29] <biovore> type nvidia-settings
[04:29] <biovore> not everything is in the gui
[04:29] <Dr_willis> There is a gui program :) its just not in the menus
[04:30] <Jahromeo> why is compiz not on a menu
[04:30] <Dr_willis> nvid<tab>
[04:30] <Dr_willis> ccsm is the compiz settings tool. Its not installed by default
[04:30] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:30] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:30] <Dr_willis> There is aso an optinal system-tray icon tool that lets you start/stop/tweak compiz
[04:31] <Jahromeo> though that compiz-kde or kde-compiz whatever it is woulda installed the manager
[04:31] <Jahromeo> stupid it doesnt
[04:31] <Jahromeo> but thanks for help
[04:31] <Dr_willis> compiz is not considerd part of the kde stuff..
[04:31] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[04:31] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:31] <biovore> compviz and kde don't mix all that well
[04:32] <Dr_willis> gives  the info on getting it going.
[04:32] <oloughlin75> biovore: they work alright
[04:32] <Dr_willis> kde4 is not going to play nicely with compiz either. :)
[04:32] <Dr_willis> of course - some wouls say that compiz has been pushed out of the nest befor it was ready for primetime
[04:32]  * Dr_willis mixxes his metaphores.
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  ccsm is not installed by default by ubuntu either. Its considerd a bit too complex
[04:33] <Dr_willis> i think there is a cleaned up ccsm in the works.
[04:33] <Jahromeo> weird pclinux u just dl compiz and its there
[04:33] <Dr_willis> go use pclinux then
[04:33] <Dr_willis> They are not related to ubuntu./kuubntu - so they can do whatever they want. :)
[04:33] <Jahromeo> heh i just came back from it - repos updates are too slow
[04:33] <biovore> install ubuntu (gnome).. there by default
[04:33] <Jahromeo> infequent
[04:33] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo:  pclinux is meant to be very very user friendly
[04:34] <Jahromeo> and its based on dying mandiva stuff
[04:34] <Jahromeo> thats no longer being updated
[04:34] <Jahromeo> so no thanks :P
[04:34] <Dr_willis> How much do you want to throw on a user.. and how much space do you have.. and what do you want to be the 'officiaally supported' bits.. is the big limitations
[04:35] <Jahromeo> if i already have a version of something will apt-get prompt for overwrite?
[04:35] <oloughlin75> is there an enlightenment installer for buntu?
[04:35] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo: it wont install it
[04:35] <Jahromeo> thanks
[04:35] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo: itll just say up to day
[04:35] <oloughlin75> date
[04:36] <Dr_willis> There is enlightment for ubuntu, and theres the enligutment desktop spinoffs called 'gOS' and 'gebuntu' as well
[04:36] <Jahromeo> k trying compiz on here to see if its any diff
[04:36] <oloughlin75> i installed gOS earlier and is pissed me off
[04:36] <oloughlin75> i liked the desktop though :/
[04:36] <Dr_willis> gOS is lacking in ways - as is gebuntu
[04:36] <Dr_willis> i dident even find the  desktop that much of an impreoivemnt
[04:37] <oloughlin75> i liked how it mixed fluxbox and gnome features
[04:37] <Jahromeo> is there a wkthru for apt-get e.g. how to look for things in the cache i keep forgetting commands
[04:37] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo: man apt-get
[04:38] <asdfasd> i'm buying a video card--is nvidia still better for linux?
[04:38] <Jahromeo> oooo man gives a manual of a command?
[04:38] <Jahromeo> more supported than ati yeah
[04:38] <Jahromeo> and officially supported better
[04:38] <oloughlin75> Jahromeo: man is quite useful :)
[04:38] <biovore> yeah.. nvidia is the best.. followed by intel.. then ati
[04:38] <asdfasd> thanks, guys
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. fluxbox? it was using Enlightment  as far as i saw oloughlin75
[04:40] <oloughlin75> Dr_willis: no i mean enlightment had features of flux and gnome
[04:40] <Dr_willis> oloughlin75,  except that enlightment was around way way befor those 2 :)
[04:40] <Dr_willis> enlightment has an intereesting history.
[04:41] <oloughlin75> did it have the click for menu befor flux/blackbox?
[04:41] <oloughlin75> it would be nice to have the mac os x like bar with the effects that gos had
[04:41] <Dr_willis> enlightment has  gone through so many  reinventions its scary
[04:42] <oloughlin75> its on r17 i think now
[04:42] <Dr_willis> its the always-a-work-inprogress-windowmanager-thatgres-into-a-desktop
[04:42] <oloughlin75> is it installable? like enlightenment-desktop or something?
[04:42] <oloughlin75> lol
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Not noticed. parts are int he repos. but no -desktop package
[04:43] <Dr_willis> You can set up the gos/gebuntu repos and isntall their stuff under ubuntu
[04:43] <oloughlin75> i could figure out how to install anything iin gos :/
[04:43] <oloughlin75> always missing -something-
[04:43] <Dr_willis> use the package manager same as ubuntu :)
[04:44] <oloughlin75> ya but alsa in the repos is old and doesnt support my card
[04:44] <Dr_willis> alsa is always old. :)
[04:44] <oloughlin75> so i compile from source -- which i couldnt in gos
[04:44] <oloughlin75> didnt have kernal source
[04:44] <Dr_willis> never noticed.. they are using ubuntu as the core. so you should of been able to.
[04:44] <oloughlin75> tried getting it and it kept failing
[04:44] <Dr_willis> i went the other way and installed ubuntu first.. then gebuntu/gos
[04:45] <biovore> gos has all that stuff.. it the ubuntu base + enligtenment.. uses the same repos I think..
[04:45] <oloughlin75> how do i get the enlightenment part?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> !find enlightment
[04:46] <ubotu> Package/file enlightment does not exist in gutsy
[04:46] <Dr_willis> it was int he repos.. if i spel it right.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> gos/gebuntu uses a teweaked version
[04:47] <Dr_willis> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/12/steps-to-install-gos-on-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[04:48] <oloughlin75> thanks Dr_willis
[04:48] <Dr_willis> http://geubuntu.wikispaces.com/Installing+Geubuntu+from+packages
[04:48] <Dr_willis> amazing what you find when you google. :)
[04:49] <oloughlin75> i found a different one lol
[04:49] <oloughlin75> oh i think compiz is messing up
[04:50] <Dr_willis> gos wont be using compiz :)
[04:52] <oloughlin75> what the remove command for compuz? sudo apt-get purge compiz*?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> i wouldent suggest removing it.
[04:52] <Dr_willis> it can cause other issues
[04:53] <oloughlin75> .......// boo
[04:53] <Dr_willis> go ahead then..... have fun
[04:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:53] <oloughlin75> i dont remember if i set compiz to load on startup
[04:54] <Dr_willis> that was an issue i had.. it still wanted to start even after it was removed...
[04:54] <oloughlin75> switching to gos brb :)
[04:54] <Dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu some how rembered it
[04:56] <oloughlin75> hola :D
[04:57] <adrock358> do you guys know if you have to open ports for streaming media?
[04:57] <oloughlin75> no
[04:57] <Dr_willis> there shouldent be any closed ports by default
[04:57] <oloughlin75> adrock358: the mplayer mozilla plugin works well
[04:58] <adrock358> i don't know what i use,  but it works fine.  it's just kind of choppy.  but i'm on a wireless connection though
[04:59] <adrock358> do you have to open ports though for streaming?
[04:59] <oloughlin75> no
[04:59] <adrock358> i'll try to edit firefox so it uses mplayer for streaming.  thank you oloughlin75.
[05:00] <Jahromeo> does kubuntu have any form of vnc client/server installed by default
[05:00] <oloughlin75> Dr_willis: do you know what the gos launcher bar is called?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> nope
[05:01] <Dr_willis> I found gos lacking in other ways.. so i dumped it after about 2 hrs..
[05:01] <oloughlin75> eww it puts all the files on top of eachother
[05:02] <Jahromeo> dr_willis was that a nope to vnc ?
[05:02] <oloughlin75> Dr_willis: i install the real one earlier today and dumped it
[05:02] <Jahromeo> does kubuntu have any form of vnc client/server installed by default
[05:02] <Dr_willis> kde and gnome both have a vnc client/server built in. :)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> or you can install others.
[05:02] <wad> I booted off the kubuntu 7.1 CD, did "apt-get install openssh-server", and now I'm trying to connect to the box with ssh. What's the default username and password? (The server is a pain to get to physically)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> krdc or somthing is the kde one.
[05:03] <wad> s/7.1/7.10/
[05:03] <Jahromeo> thanks dr_willis - no tightvnc or such installed by default?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> wad,  i imagine you need to get on the machine and set a password/username    the default user is 'ubuntu' but has no password. Not sure ssh will let the users in with no password
[05:04] <Dr_willis> Jahromeo,  not by default - install tightvnc ifyou want.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> I tend to use vnc4server/viewer
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or kdes own kdrc
[05:04] <wad> Dr_willis: okay, thanks.
[05:06] <Jahromeo> cant find tightvnc
[05:06] <Jahromeo> but i can find server
[05:06] <Jahromeo> heh weird
[05:06] <Dr_willis> !find vnc
[05:06] <ubotu> Found: libvncserver-dev, xvnc4viewer, directvnc, libsvncpp-dev, libsvncpp0c2a (and 18 others)
[05:06] <Dr_willis> !find tightvnc
[05:06] <ubotu> Found: tightvncserver, xtightvncviewer, tightvnc-java
[05:07] <Dr_willis> I tend touse vnc4server
[05:07] <Dr_willis> !find vnc4
[05:07] <ubotu> Found: xvnc4viewer, vnc4-common, vnc4server
[05:07] <Jahromeo> ill try tightvnc first using it at work
[05:07] <Jahromeo> then ill try vncserver
[05:07] <Jahromeo> whats the diff between em?
[05:08] <Jahromeo> where does kubuntu hide vnc in the menu?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> no idea.   thatw why i said the name of the command earlier. :0
[05:10] <Jahromeo> why dont alot of things auto get imported to menus?
[05:11] <oloughlin75> most gui things do
[05:11] <Dr_willis> i find the menus are getting way too cluttered as it is
[05:11] <Dr_willis> hit alt-space and type a few letters
[05:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:12] <biovore> you can't do everything from a gui.. GUI components in linux are just option limited front ends to gui tools.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> katapult is fun
[05:12] <biovore> its a nice fast simple calculator too :-P
[05:12] <Jahromeo> never seen katapult b4
[05:13] <sparr> katapult is one of those hidden features of kubuntu that no one ever discovers on their own, i think
[05:13] <sparr> it was a mystery to me for so long
[05:13] <Jahromeo> trying ur vnc , tightvnc sucks on this :(
[05:13] <oloughlin75> so what is it? :D
[05:13] <sparr> just popping up "at random"
[05:13] <sparr> its a quick launcher, kinda like mac spotlight
[05:14] <sparr> or quicksilver
[05:14] <sparr> but less powerful
[05:14] <Dr_willis> even vista has a feature similer you can get. :)
[05:14] <Jahromeo> how come katapult doesnt find firefox
[05:14] <Jahromeo> but i have that installed
[05:14] <oloughlin75> it showed a splash and disappeared?
[05:14] <sparr> because its crap  :)
[05:14] <Dr_willis> if you installed firefox recently - i need to reread the menus/cache
[05:14] <sparr> oloughlin75: you didnt type...
[05:14] <Jahromeo> so e.g. restart
[05:14] <Dr_willis> or logout..
[05:14] <Dr_willis> or reboot 1000000000000 times if you want.
[05:14] <sparr> katapult is a poor imitation of quicksilver...  i wish there was a good file indexing service for linux
[05:14] <oloughlin75> sparr:  type what?
[05:15] <sparr> id love to have mac's spotlight functionality
[05:15] <Dr_willis> or do a song and dance and  then logout. :)
[05:15] <sparr> oloughlin75: "e"
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i always disable indexing. :)
[05:16] <Jahromeo> going to sleep thankls for help guys
[05:16] <oloughlin75> how do you get katapult to work?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> hit alt-space
[05:16] <Dr_willis> i think by default
[05:16] <Dr_willis> assuming you dident enavle the 'windows compatiabilty' type layout/keyboard thing
[05:16] <oloughlin75> it shows a splash screen and disappears
[05:17] <Dr_willis> type some ltters
[05:17] <oloughlin75> ooooooo
[05:17] <Dr_willis> alt-space, then k
[05:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:17] <oloughlin75> awesom
[05:17] <oloughlin75>   thats so obscure
[05:24] <eddy> hi again, i already install the wireless driver with ndiswrapper, but when i try to make a iwlist scan or iwconfig the the system said "no wireless extension"
[05:25] <eddy> what can i do
[05:25] <oloughlin75> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[05:25] <eddy> plzz
[05:26] <oloughlin75> then restart the computer
[05:26] <eddy> its only that, restart the computer
[05:26] <WhereAmI_> does anyone else have problems with amarok loading huge collections?
[05:26] <eddy> ?
[05:26] <WhereAmI_> like it doesn't load them all?
[05:26] <oloughlin75> WhereAmI_: how big?
[05:27] <WhereAmI_> big
[05:27] <oloughlin75> about how many song?
[05:27] <eddy> its really to easy, ok see a
[05:28] <WhereAmI_> let me load it
[05:28] <oloughlin75> WhereAmI_:  is it more than like 20k songs?
[05:28] <WhereAmI_> well I got it to load them all
[05:28] <WhereAmI_> I think so
[05:28] <oloughlin75> you need to use mysql
[05:28] <WhereAmI_> hmm
[05:28] <WhereAmI_> I assume theres a guide online?
[05:28] <oloughlin75> ill get you a link
[05:28] <oloughlin75> ya
[05:29] <oloughlin75> the swlite that amarok uses by default is terrible with more than 10k songs
[05:29] <charlie> Is there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up
[05:30] <oloughlin75> WhereAmI_: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo
[05:31] <WhereAmI_> ok thanks
[05:31] <oloughlin75> first sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[05:31] <WhereAmI_> then it should work awesomely?
[05:31] <oloughlin75> then read the mysql setup section
[05:32] <oloughlin75> then in amarok do setting > configure amarok > collection > set database to mysql and enter the info
[05:32] <charlie> Is there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up
[05:32] <oloughlin75> charlie:  permissions on what?
[05:33] <charlie> Everything.
[05:33] <oloughlin75> ...
[05:33] <charlie> It seems the permissions are messed up everywhere
[05:33] <Dr_willis> gee... i would say NO.. :)
[05:33] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:33] <oloughlin75> what do you mean?
[05:33] <charlie> like
[05:33] <Dr_willis> since   theres a lot of didfferen tperms on different files..
[05:33] <charlie> Nano warns me it can't access history an stuff
[05:33] <Dr_willis> be more specific and we can try to help
[05:33] <charlie> and lynx gives me this
[05:33] <charlie> Is there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up
[05:33] <charlie> oops
[05:33] <charlie> lynx gives me Can't Access `file://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html'
[05:33] <charlie> Alert!: Unable to access document.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Your users home dir, should be owned by them and all the files in there should be owned by them.
[05:33] <oloughlin75> charlie, you are a limited use for a reason
[05:33] <charlie> I assume permissions are screwed up
[05:34] <oloughlin75> its for your own proection
[05:34] <charlie> I'm the administrator...
[05:34] <Dr_willis> try 'nano /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html'
[05:34] <NickPresta> charlie, you shouldn't be running as root.
[05:34] <oloughlin75> you really shouldnt
[05:34] <Dr_willis> if you want to alter system files. You need to do so with root permissions
[05:34] <charlie> What makes you think i'm running as root?
[05:34] <charlie> i'm not running as root
[05:34] <charlie> I just tried to start lynx
[05:35] <charlie> charlie@ubuntu:~$ lynx
[05:35] <charlie> Can't Access `file://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html'
[05:35] <charlie> Alert!: Unable to access document.
[05:35] <charlie> lynx: Can't access startfile
[05:35] <charlie> And other programs have access errors too
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Im not sure that  your 'address/path' is correct  for what you are doing
[05:35] <Dr_willis> lynx /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[05:35] <charlie> oh boy
[05:35] <charlie> Dr_willis:
[05:35] <charlie> I don't think you understand
[05:35] <charlie> ALL i'm doing is running lynx
[05:35] <charlie> that's it
[05:36] <charlie> and i get that
[05:36] <charlie> My permissions are messed up.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> you are tyelling it a file.. but the path to that file is most likely NOT /localhost/usr
[05:36] <Dr_willis> try cat /localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[05:36] <charlie> oh my god
[05:36] <charlie> i'm not trying to access that file
[05:36] <charlie> nevermind
[05:36] <WhereAmI_> do you happen to know if the new amarok will do this better?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> http://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html  would be correct.
[05:37] <e`DrAvEn> how do i restart sshd?
[05:37] <charlie> e`DrAvEn: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[05:37] <charlie> i think
[05:37] <oloughlin75> WhereAmI_: no, your only choice is to use mysql or postreql or whatever the other one is
[05:37] <charlie> might be openssh or something
[05:38] <WhereAmI_> ok
[05:38] <Dr_willis>  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh
[05:38] <Dr_willis>  restart
[05:38] <Dr_willis> works also.. oops 2 lines..
[05:39] <e`DrAvEn> thanx hope this works i was unable to connect and i think it's because i don't connect to the net until after sshd is already started
[05:42] <e`DrAvEn> hm no luck
[05:45] <ben> hello
[05:47] <ben> hello
[05:48] <ben> just got this kubuntu its awesome just waiting to download linux mce
[05:48] <ben> anyone got linux mce
[05:48] <Dr_willis> never used mce :) i tend to yse Mythtv
[05:48] <ben> yeah read that too but just the video that goes with linux mce on google video was excellent
[05:49] <ben> automated light or ambience controls wow
[05:50] <Dr_willis> I uuse mythtv - because it can auto-zap the comercials out of the shows i record. :)
[05:50] <ben> yeah so i have heard i have Windows MCE downstairs and showanalyzer dose that for me
[05:51] <ben> or dragon one of them
[05:51] <ben> i really only wants this linux mce to watch programs that i record
[05:52] <ben> anyways just checking this program out have a good one
[05:52] <music`freak> anybody here can help me out with Amarok?
[05:52] <oloughlin75> music`freak: what about it?
[05:52] <music`freak> need help regarding using my iPod with Amarok
[05:52] <music`freak> how do i see all the videos on my iPod in Amarok?
[05:53] <oloughlin75> i dont have an ipod :/
[05:53] <music`freak> like i can in iTunes?
[05:53] <oloughlin75> might not be able to because amarok is music only
[05:53] <music`freak> Hmmm
[05:53] <music`freak> k
[05:53] <oloughlin75> its doesnt play or support video
[05:53] <music`freak> any app. for converting Divx/other video formats into iPod video in Linux?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> avidmux can do that
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !info avidmux
[05:54] <Dr_willis> if i can spell it right
[05:54] <ubotu> Package avidmux does not exist in gutsy
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !info avidemux
[05:54] <ubotu> avidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[05:54] <music`freak> Dr_willis:  is it GUI based?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> yes
[05:54] <music`freak> and does it have an option to convert to iPod video directly?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> I dont use an ipod.
[05:55] <music`freak> or do i need to mess around with resolutions/format/frame rates?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> I got a script made for it that converts to xvid cfor my player
[05:55] <Dr_willis> a few clicks.. and it converts.
[05:55]  * music`freak don't know no scripting :/
[05:55] <Dr_willis> gotta love scriptable apps
[05:55] <Dr_willis> then hit the avidmux foruims/sites and find one made.
[05:56] <music`freak> k
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Not like ipod video covnersion would be a 'rare' thing fr someone to do. :)
[05:56] <music`freak> do u have the forum link?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> nope
[05:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:56] <music`freak> k
[05:56] <music`freak> thanks
[05:56] <music`freak> any other apps. u think might help
[05:56] <music`freak> ?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> i use avidmux under windows and linux for all my converting needs
[06:00] <Dr_willis> http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Common_myths
[06:07] <music`freak> thanks Dr_willis
[06:07] <music`freak> later folks
[06:08] <charlie> Does anyone know of a good SFTP/SCP Client? (linux)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> gnome and kde file managers can do ssh/sftp. then theres ssh/scp :)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Then theres the fuse-ssh tools.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Depends on your needs
[06:09] <Dr_willis> fish:// is the one for kde's file manager i belive.
[06:27] <liz_> 'sup ppl, how can I get a different user to access the internet?
[06:30] <unagi> does kopete hang alot for everyone else or just me
[06:39] <Dr_willis> liz_,  run the app as a different user. :)  depends on the details.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> I tend to install/use 'sux' to switch users.
[06:40] <liz_> thx Dr_willis, I tried that once and it asked if I used the sudo command..
[06:40] <Dr_willis> depends on what you are running.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> sudo/su/sux do similer tasks - but with different  reasons/bits. :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[06:41] <ubotu> sux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:41] <liz_> kubuntu 6.06
[06:41] <Dr_willis> i would do a 'sux otheruser' then run the app.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> what APP are you tryign to run anyway?
[06:42] <liz_> just trying  to access the internet under a different user
[06:43] <Dr_willis> sux bgates
[06:43] <Dr_willis> firefox
[06:43] <Dr_willis> :) there ya go...
[06:43] <Dr_willis> is one of proberly a dozen ways to do it.
[06:44] <liz_> so I have to install sux first? or already on 6.06 and do I run it in root or different user?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> users can use sux. :)
[06:46] <darkdream> morgen
[06:46] <liz_> cool, ok, thanks for the info Dr_willis, I'll try that and see how it turns out :-)
[07:06] <tj__> is there a good dock for kde
[07:07] <tj__> os X-ish
[07:07] <Dr_willis> i hate os-x type docs. :)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> check the package manager - theres a few similer.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> !find docl
[07:08] <ubotu> Found: doclifter
[07:08] <Dr_willis> !find dock
[07:08] <ubotu> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)
[07:08] <tj__> hmm
[07:08] <tj__> any suggestions
[07:08] <Dr_willis> I hate them all. :)
[07:08] <tj__> from someone that uses 1
[07:08] <tj__> ;)
[07:09] <Dr_willis> They all lack functionality that i get with the normal kde panel
[07:09] <tj__> yeah but i think it looks cooler :P
[07:10] <Dr_willis> go get a screen shot of a OS-X desktop. and set it as your wallpaper for looks
[07:10] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:10] <tj__> i do know what u say is true
[07:10] <tj__> do they even support kiba-dock anymore
[07:10] <Dr_willis> I use dual monitors and a lot of these fancy docks just dont work well with them.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> !find kiba
[07:11] <Dr_willis> ive heard of others using it.
[07:11] <ubotu> Package/file kiba does not exist in gutsy
[07:11] <tj__> !find avn
[07:11] <ubotu> File avn found in icedtea-java7-jre, j2re1.4, postgresql-8.1, sun-java5-jre, sun-java6-jre (and 1 others)
[07:12] <tj__> i'm trying to remember one i used a whjile back
[07:12] <Dr_willis> its avant-window-navagiator or somthing
[07:12] <tj__> yeah
[07:12] <Dr_willis> That one had real issued with 2 screens
[07:13] <Dr_willis> and it requires compiz, or similer
[07:13] <tj__> i have compiz
[07:15] <tj__> i think i'll stick with the kde dock
[07:15] <tj__> !find avant
[07:15] <ubotu> File avant found in wims-modules
[07:16] <Dr_willis> its not in the normal repos under gutsy
[07:16] <Dr_willis> it is going tobe  in the hardy repos. :)
[07:28] <thechris> hey, i'm having playback issues with wma files and wmv files
[07:28] <thechris> kubunutu64
[07:28] <thechris> any ideas on how to fix this (not trying to install wma/v)
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, go to 32 bit.  unless you have 4+gb ram, 64-bit isn't worth the headaches
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> normally that would be handled by w32codecs...  but it's not 32 anymore!
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i apologize if i sound bitter
[07:31] <thechris> i have 8G of ram
[07:31] <thechris> though i'm planning to run 2 virtual computers on my computer
[07:32] <thechris> so it probably works out
[07:32] <biovore> I have had some luck with mplayer
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> then you have a valid reason to be using 64 bit :)
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> erm...  is there a build of VLC for 64-bit?
[07:34] <WhereAmI_> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8492026&st=1TB&lp=9&type=product&cp=1&id=1186003685416
[07:34] <WhereAmI_> 1TB hard drive for 230$
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> WhereAmI_: will you STOP spamming that f****** hard drive already?  anyone that cares knows about it, and the rest don't.
[07:34] <thechris> i'll probably end up going with 32b kubunutu then for my desktop OS, and run a 64b server or such
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome to the free market, the price starts high and falls as time goes on
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that's how it works!
[07:35] <thechris> that doens't seem like a terribly good deal
[07:35] <WhereAmI_> eh?
[07:35] <WhereAmI_> earlier I said something about it
[07:35] <WhereAmI_> now I posted a direct link
[07:35] <thechris> last i had seen it was around 250 for 1T
[07:36] <WhereAmI_> [01:36] <shaggylaptop> i might get 2
[07:36] <WhereAmI_> [01:37] <shaggylaptop> or 4 for my raid5 setup
[07:36] <WhereAmI_> [01:37] <shaggylaptop> you seen some with more than 16MB cache?
[07:36] <WhereAmI_> that guy liked it in a media center chat
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> well isn't that just lovely!  would you like a cookie?:
[07:36] <WhereAmI_> yes.
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> too bad.
[07:37] <WhereAmI_> and I believe for the entire time I shall post this hard drive here every hour or so
[07:37] <thechris> now i want brownies
[07:37] <WhereAmI_> it was going to be the end after that link
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> WhereAmI_: that would be an extremely bad idea
[07:37] <WhereAmI_> but since you like it so much
[07:37] <thechris> thats fine by me
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> *i* can't do anything about it
[07:37] <thechris> i can use /ignore if i care enough
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> thechris: true
[07:38] <WhereAmI_> yup
[07:38] <thechris> its just a debate of how apathetic i get
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> but i'm sure there are ops floating around who get irritated by spam
[07:38] <WhereAmI_> just like I'm going to daisuke_Ido right now
[07:38] <WhereAmI_> don't need to listen to some idiot that has had a bad day
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't need to deal with spam, welcome to ignore!
[07:39] <WhereAmI_> showing people a deal, besides most of the time people aren't around 24/7 in an IRC and see two little posts
[07:40] <dallasb> i just downloaded kubuntu and i finally got a wireless connection but i cant pull up any websites anyone know what the problem might be?
[07:40] <dallasb> irc works just fine obviously but no internet
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> dallasb: using konqueror?
[07:40] <dallasb> yes
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> try installing firefox, just to see if that works.  if so, it's a konqueror issue, if not, it's a little more widespread.  i've seen both
[07:41] <Dr_willis> I recall seeing many others with an identical issue.. but i never was able to figure out what the fix was. :)
[07:41] <Dr_willis> I though it was somting tiodo with the kde/konqueror proxy settings
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: same here
[07:42] <ForgeAus> great 266 ppl on a channel and nobody responds :(
[07:42] <ForgeAus> not here I meant in #Windows
[07:42] <dallasb> ok, im d/l it now
[07:42] <thechris> thats illegal
[07:42] <ForgeAus> whats illegal?
[07:42] <dallasb> so is konqueror not a very good browser?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> it id 3 am :)
[07:43] <Dr_willis> i use firefox or opera
[07:43] <ForgeAus> dallasb konqueror is great but its browsing isn't at firefox standards
[07:43] <thechris> i was just kidding.  #windows ; i'm dl'n it ; ...
[07:43] <dallasb> ahh, i use ff with windows and i love it
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> dallasb: it's a good browser
[07:43] <dallasb> for sure
[07:44] <ForgeAus> I'd agree with Daisuke on that :)
[07:44] <dallasb> have you used swiftfox?
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> no, konqueror
[07:44] <ForgeAus> its also a wonderful file manager :)
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, wait a tick..  how are you downloading ff?
[07:44] <ForgeAus> dallasb easiest way to install firefox is apt-get install firefox
[07:44] <ForgeAus> hehe
[07:44] <dallasb> yep
[07:44] <dallasb> thats what im doing :)
[07:44] <ForgeAus> swiftfox is just a customized version
[07:44] <dallasb> or did
[07:45] <ForgeAus> you get to tailor it for your CPU specifically, etc...
[07:45] <dallasb> yep
[07:45] <dallasb> it was an issue with konqueror
[07:46] <dallasb> my connection is pretty slow though...
[07:46] <dallasb> oh well
[07:48] <Daisuke_Ido> hrm...  i was going to walk him through fixing the konqueror problem :\
[07:57] <walmik> hi all... i want to configure a dlink router which is on xp so that i can get internet on this amd64 laptop to access internet or the network. can anybody pls help...
[07:57] <walmik> this laptop has kubuntu
[07:58] <walmik> the wireless is configured on kubuntu(i think) and i have a direct cable plugged into xp
[07:58] <walmik> mefisto__: hi there... r u around
[08:00] <erge> Has anyone managed to get eciadsl working in gutsy?
[08:14] <Dr_willis> hmm
[08:17] <DreadKnight> does anyone have experience with A records? pls let me know so we can talk privately, need a bit of help pls
[08:19] <Lynoure> DreadKnight: Yes, but I only do free support on the channel
[08:20] <DreadKnight> Lynoure: just a second to see if this guy can help me, other wise we should join the ubuntu-offtopic channel
[08:20] <Lynoure> DreadKnight: I'm on #kubuntu-offtopic already
[08:20] <DreadKnight> Lynoure: good :)
[08:36] <tj__> so when i add a program such as open arena where would it be located on the drive
[08:40] <ForgeAus> gcc 3.3 is not good right?
[08:44] <thumper> ForgeAus: compared to what?
[08:44] <ForgeAus> well I'm installing Services for Unix 3.5 (ie interix) under my windows
[08:46] <thumper> ForgeAus: and this relates to kubuntu how
[08:46] <thumper> ?
[08:49] <francky16> hi
[08:50] <jussi01> hi francky16
[08:52] <francky16> hey there justckeckin this chanel out !!
[08:53] <jussi01> francky16: great. if you just want to chat, you can also join #kubuntu-offtopic (as this is for support) :D
[08:56] <ForgeAus> !grub
[08:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:58] <francky16> okay  thanks !! jussi01
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> thumper: it relates plenty, it will allow him to access NFS shares from windows
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> and skip the horrible pile of steaming somnrothers that is samba
[09:04] <blizzzek> hi
[09:04] <kyled185> hi
[09:20] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[09:26] <kyled185> I take offense to that
[09:34] <gold44> how to erase cdrw disk?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> k3b has a tool for that i think
[09:38] <gold44> Dr_willis: i used k3b, it did not work
[09:38] <plantain> Hey, items from my panel are randomly not in my panel when I reboot (although they still spawn, but in a little window in the top left of my screen), what could be wrong?
[09:38] <gold44> it's a VCD, when i popped it in, i dont see a cdrom ico n on desktop
[09:39] <Dr_willis> if you erased it...   im not sure it will make an icon on the desktop
[09:39] <Dr_willis> if you erased it. :) its no longer a vcd.
[09:39] <gold44> Dr_willis: no, when i pop cdrw into drive, icon did not come out
[09:40] <gold44> i think an app is using the cdrom
[09:40] <gold44> and that is preventing me to erase the disk
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Normsally if somting is accessing the cd. it wont let it get ejected.
[09:40] <Dr_willis> could just logout to make sure nothingis accessing it.
[09:41] <Dr_willis> or check mount command
[09:41] <gold44> how to tell totem not to auto start when i pop cd into cdrom?
[09:43] <jussi01> gold44: are you running ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:44] <gold44> jussi01: ubuntu
[09:45] <jussi01> gold44: you need to be asking in #ubuntu then :)
[09:46] <gold44> i did, no luck
[09:46] <jussi01> gold44: most people here are not going tobe able to help, as the is kubuntu support. try again in #ubuntu
[09:54] <c1|freaky> what is a good and easy-to-use translation tool? i just need to translate a word some times?
[09:55] <kyled185> google
[09:56] <jussi01> babelfish
[09:57] <jussi01> c1|freaky: check out this article http://www.linux.com/feature/43539
[09:57] <c1|freaky> ok, thank you :)
[09:58] <jussi01> ahhh, oops, not really what you are after
[09:58] <Proud> Guys how to uninstall gnome and with all of it's applications?
[09:58] <jussi01> Proud: so you have only kde?
[09:58] <jussi01> !purekde | Proud
[09:58] <ubotu> Proud: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[09:59] <Proud> Yes, I have Kubuntu. Then I've installed GNOME (just to try) but do not like it at all
[10:00] <Kohlrabi> "purekde is if you want to remove all (not)GNOME packages and have a default (not)Kubuntu [...]"?
[10:02] <jussi01> Kohlrabi: is that what you see?
[10:03] <Kohlrabi> not:really
[10:03] <Kohlrabi> I see "!"
[10:03] <Kohlrabi> Probably dnote that you can ask the bot about it?
[10:03] <sravi> I have HP Pavilion dv6775us. The trackpad enable/disable key generates XF86Lauch0 key and causes khelpcenter to open. Does anyone know how to disable this?
[10:04] <jussi01> Kohlrabi: yes, thats correct
[10:04] <Kohlrabi> OK
[10:05] <pteague> i'm having issues with the computer locking up... i finally switched to a tty & waited for it to crash again & got the following - http://pastebin.com/m657e3319 - any ideas?
[10:05] <jussi01> !shortcuts | sravi
[10:05] <ubotu> sravi: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[10:05] <sravi> ubotu: thanks, i will check this.
[10:06] <jussi01> !tanks | sravi
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <jussi01> !thanks | sravi
[10:06] <ubotu> sravi: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:09] <pteague> i turned off swap & i'm still getting my 2nd screen full of errors again
[10:11] <jussi01> pteague: I dont know what advice you have been given, but turning off swap does not usually help much.
[10:16] <toxop1asma> question: what's better these days, VIA or nvidia chipsets? for linux, i mean
[10:17] <jussi01> toxop1asma: nvidia has a lot of support
[10:18] <marzena> Hello, I've got a problem. I ve read hear:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N200_0769B2G, to use sth like: "To get your keyboard controls working, go to Sound Preferences and under Devices -> Default Mixer track -> Device, choose "HDA Intel (Alsa mixer)". Then choose "PCM" in the list below." But I cannot find this
[10:19] <jussi01> marzena: I assume you have a intelhda card?
[10:19] <marzena> the question: Is it posible that I have to install some additional packahes?
[10:19] <jussi01> !intelhda | marzena
[10:19] <ubotu> marzena: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[10:19] <marzena> jest intel-hda
[10:20] <toxop1asma> jussi01: thanks; i'll just go with nvidia then.
[10:20] <jussi01> !hardware | toxop1asma
[10:20] <ubotu> toxop1asma: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[10:20] <marzena> The car is working properly, but I can't use the keys near the keybord to mute
[10:21] <jussi01> toxop1asma: always good to look a that list
[10:23] <toxop1asma> jussi01: neither of the mobos i was looking at is there. does it mean they won't work?
[10:25] <pteague> jussi01> the suggestion was given i think based on the fact that kswapd was listed in the output
[10:25] <jussi01> toxop1asma: no, that isnt an exauhastive list
[10:26] <toxop1asma> i googled, and found this http://hardware4linux.info/component/18319/ it seems i'm not not assed out as long as i use something that's not ubuntu
[10:27] <toxop1asma> that should have been just one "not"
[10:28] <Jado`> hi there, i have problem when installing my broadcom 43xx on kubuntu
[10:29] <Jado`> anyone for help ?
[10:43] <lukas__> ist da draußen jdm
[10:53] <Dr_willis> Jado`,  the resticted-manager tool installed the drivers i needed for my 43xx card.
[11:03] <Jado`> Dr_willis do you know how to install the "software sources" ?
[11:03] <Jado`> or someone else ?
[11:06] <Dr_willis> enable all the repos with the package manager toom
[11:06] <Dr_willis> tool
[11:08] <hola> Dr_willis: do you know gnome
[11:08] <Dr_willis> I use gnome at times. :)
[11:09] <hola> Dr_willis: i would like to tell to gnome do not ask me user and password when it start and enter so dirtly in the environment....in kde i know how to do that
[11:10] <Dr_willis> gdm has a auto login option as well I belive.
[11:10] <Dr_willis> You could set up kdm to auto login also  and have it start up gnome.
[11:10] <hola> sorry, what is gdm
[11:11] <Dr_willis> !gdm
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <Dr_willis> !kdm
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <jpatrick> !info gdm
[11:11] <Dr_willis> the gnome login manager = gdm, kdm = kde login manager
[11:11] <ubotu> gdm (source: gdm): GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1822 kB, installed size 15400 kB
[11:12] <hola> Dr_willis: ok i dont know how to do that but i will try to find aorund
[11:13] <Dr_willis> how are you doing it in kde? You use the kdm config tool to enable auto logging in. - You can just set the default desktop to be gnome if you want to start gnome and still use kde's kdm
[11:14] <hola> Dr_willis: ahhh  ok...... but if i use ubuntu standalone it is not possibile, or im worng
[11:14] <Dr_willis> standalone? GDM has autologing features also if you are just using gnome.
[11:15] <hola> Dr_willis: do you know hot to find them
[11:15] <Dr_willis> you might have to edit the gdmrc config file. Not sure if the gdm gui config tool has auto login settings in it or not.\
[11:15] <Dr_willis> !find gdm
[11:15] <ubotu> Found: feisty-gdm-themes, blubuntu-gdm-theme, edgy-gdm-themes, gdm-themes, gdmap (and 5 others)
[11:15] <Dr_willis> check out the gdm theme manager tool i guess.  :) not sure what its called or  if its isntalled by default.
[11:15] <hola> Dr_willis: thanks a lot
[11:16] <hola> Dr_willis: bye
[11:19] <add616> hello
[11:20] <Jado`> hello
[11:20] <Jado`> how can i install "software sources" on kubuntu ?
[11:20] <add616> kubuntu is support beryl?
[11:20] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[11:20] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[11:20] <Dr_willis> use compiz instead
[11:20] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[11:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:21] <Jado`> how can i install "software sources" on kubuntu ?
[11:22] <add616> how i can run this through console terminal
[11:22] <Dr_willis> !source-o-matic
[11:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[11:22] <Dr_willis> Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories.
[11:22] <pteague> ok, any idea why i can get the 64bit live cd version to run for over 25 minutes running top with no problems, but the installed 64bit version locks up running top?
[11:23] <Dr_willis> add616,  read the !compiz factoid web site and isntall the proper packages to enable compiz
[11:23] <Jado`> Dr_willis i can't find it
[11:24] <Dr_willis> i just manually edit my  /etc/apt/sources.list or use synaptic, or adept to enable all the extra repositories.
[11:24] <Jado`> what should i do with my sources.list ?
[11:25] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:26] <Dr_willis> shows how to enable all the different repositories (sources)
[11:26] <Jado`> i don't have internet on the pc with the problem :/
[11:26] <add616> i am using kubuntu not ubuntu
[11:27] <Dr_willis> add616,   that posted !compiz url told how to enable compiz on kubuntu last i looked at it.
[11:27] <Apocalypse_dn> Hi! how it's going?
[11:28] <Dr_willis> howdy
[11:28] <Jado`> so, Dr_willis ?
[11:29] <romunov> i followed this tutorial to install compiz: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty---tutorial-for-advanced-andor-KDE-as-well-as-Xfce-users
[11:29] <Dr_willis> Jado`,  if you dont have any internet then things get a bit harder.   Wnat are you wanting toinstall anyway? theres some 'aptoncd' commands out. but i never used them
[11:29] <Dr_willis> May be easier to plug the thing in wired somewhere, and isntall whatever you need first.
[11:30] <Jado`> i can't plug this doesn't work either : /
[11:30] <Dr_willis> if wired networking is not working.. thats very weird.
[11:30] <romunov> you can acces the sources.list by "nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:30] <Jado`> yes but what should i do with my sources.list ?
[11:30] <Dr_willis> wont do much good to worry about sources if you have no networking  :)
[11:30] <Jado`> it's working but i can't make it work Dr_willis
[11:31] <Jado`> i want to install driver for broadcom 43xx but i have this error : "the sofware source for the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter" is not enabled"
[11:31] <Jado`> so i want to enable "sofware source for the package"
[11:31] <romunov> you need to get the url for the repository
[11:31] <Dr_willis> Jado`,   'software source' = the repository.
[11:31] <add616> ok
[11:31] <Dr_willis> its not a 'thing' you download. its a  site/url/server you enable to allow iit to download the needed files.
[11:32] <add616> what the function of terminal console
[11:32] <romunov> you need  to google for the repository link for that particular package and copy that link into the sources.list
[11:32] <Dr_willis> add616,  huh?
[11:32] <add616> if posible to acces terminal console
[11:32] <Jado`> so i need to make function my wired connection ?
[11:32] <Dr_willis>  Theres the konsole terminal, and  then theres the consoles add616  - for all your command line needs.
[11:33] <Jado`> i'll be back
[11:33] <Dr_willis> Jado`,  that would make things much easier.
[11:34] <add616> for now i am downloading in repositories
[11:35] <add616> what anti virus to install in kubuntu
[11:35] <stdin> none
[11:35] <add616> why
[11:35] <stdin> !virus | add616
[11:35] <ubotu> add616: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:36] <stdin> !antivirus
[11:36] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[11:38] <add616> is safe to used ubuntu?
[11:39] <Dr_willis> as safe as anything else is in this world... :)
[11:39] <stdin> Linus is not prone to viruses like other OS's are, it's just not a real problem for us
[11:39] <knowbot> yes, cool he
[11:40] <add616> how to configure network sharing in windows xp
[11:40] <add616> using ubuntu linux
[11:40] <Jado> Dr_willis i plugged a network cable, and i "automatically" configure it, but Konquerors says "an error occurred while loading http://www.google.fr/
[11:40] <Jado> "
[11:40] <Dr_willis>  read up on internet sharing in the XP help docs/ (f1)  I forget what they call it.
[11:40] <knowbot> in windows i hate the scenners, now i don't need them annymore :)
[11:40] <Dr_willis> Jado,  but irc is working on that machine?
[11:41] <add616> i mean in ubuntu linux
[11:41] <add616> not in xp
[11:41] <Jado> no it's not the same machine ^^
[11:41] <add616> sharing files to xp using ubuntu machine
[11:41] <Dr_willis> thats not internet connection shareing then. :)
[11:41] <Dr_willis> thats setting up samba/shares
[11:41] <Dr_willis> !SAMBA
[11:41] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[11:42] <Dr_willis> theres a kde front end to confgure samba also. Not sure if its installed by default.
[11:42] <Jado> when i go to network setting, i can see that there is no "ip address" in front off eth1 (which my eternet connection")
[11:42] <Jado> of*
[11:42] <Dr_willis> Jado,  on my machines eth0 is the wired network, eth1 is the wireless.
[11:43] <Dr_willis> Jado,  see what 'sudo ifconfig' says
[11:43] <Jado> for me eth0 is wireless and eth1 ethernet
[11:43] <Dr_willis> But i touhgt wireless wasent working...
[11:44] <Jado> yes it is disabled, and i can't enable it
[11:44] <Dr_willis>  it may be your router is not giving out proper ip#'s or the dhcp server on it is off.  or you got it set to use a static ip. on the wired network thats not correct.
[11:44] <Jado> i try to configure manually ?
[11:45] <Dr_willis> if you dont even have an ip# for the interface - you need to reconfigure it.
[11:45] <Jado> ok
[11:45] <Dr_willis> or just enable dhcp and let it get a ip
[11:45] <Dr_willis> Then try pinging google.com with (ping google.com) and also (ping 64.233.167.99)
[11:45] <Jado> dhcp is enabled, because i can talk to you with this machine which is configured by dhcp
[11:46] <Jado> sudo ifconfig gives me 2 paragraph (one with eth1, the other with lo)
[11:46] <Jado> google is responding
[11:46] <Jado> how do i stop the ping ?
[11:47] <compi> howzit everyone.... How do i install "wine" on Kubuntu 7.1????????????
[11:47] <Dr_willis> same as ya install anything else.. with the package manager.
[11:47] <Dr_willis> !info wine
[11:47] <ubotu> wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[11:47] <Dr_willis> package name is wine
[11:47] <RomanRudenko> I want to try out kubuntu on a VMWare virtual machine and move it over to be the real OS if I like it. Would I have any trouble later on if I stick to using SCSI emulated drive in VMWare (default)?
[11:48] <tomaz> how do I change the path for every user that logs on the system?
[11:48] <RomanRudenko> Or should I switch to IDE for that?
[11:48] <Dr_willis> RomanRudenko,  you proberly dont want to 'move' the installed system from the vmware hd to a real hd. there may be a lot of little issues.
[11:48] <tomaz> I mean, the $PATH
[11:48] <compi> i am not able to install via add/ remove programs as it is not on the list!!!
[11:48] <Dr_willis> default path is set in /etc/profile I thought.
[11:48] <Dr_willis> compi,  enable the extra repositories   its in the 'universe' repository
[11:48] <tomaz> etc/profile is read every time that i log in?
[11:49] <RomanRudenko> Dr_willis: What kind of issues can I expect?
[11:49] <Jado> Dr_willis, ping to google is working, but http://www.google.fr on Konqueror isn't
[11:49] <compi> Dr_willis... how do i do that???
[11:49] <Dr_willis> RomanRudenko,  at the least  your UUID's in  the grub menus and fstab will be wrong most likely
[11:50] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:50] <compi> thanks... having a look now....
[11:50] <Dr_willis> use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. is one way also
[11:50] <Dr_willis> adept/synaptic and that add/remove programs also have some check box's somewhere to enable them
[11:51] <add616> how can activate samba
[11:51] <Dr_willis> Jado,  try the package manager adept to  update/upgrade the system  see if that works..if so you can then install extra packages.
[11:51] <Dr_willis> !samba | add
[11:51] <ubotu> add: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[11:51] <RomanRudenko> Dr_willis: So a one-off configuration change? That does not sound too bad. Would there be something more crazy to deal with (e.g. modules installed to match the initial virtual hardware, and no autodetection to switch over once installed on new hardware)?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> !info samba
[11:51] <ubotu> samba (source: samba): a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 3751 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[11:52] <Jado> Dr_willis, ping to google is working, but http://www.google.fr on Konqueror isn't
[11:52] <RomanRudenko> Or this is the kind of crazy thing where only experimenting would give the answer?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> RomanRudenko,  plus all the hardware will be totally different. :) not sure how that will affect the sound, and other things.
[11:52] <tomaz> worked, thanks
[11:52] <Dr_willis> RomanRudenko,  id just  do a clean isntall to the real hd. and copy over the needed config files from the virtual install.
[11:52] <add616> if possible that windows application can run on ubuntu
[11:53] <add616> like ms office, etc...
[11:53] <Dr_willis> add616,  Huh? what does window sapplications have to do with samba?
[11:53] <Dr_willis> wine can run a lot of windows apps..  but i rarely use it.
[11:54] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. That repo url-  has not been updated for gutsy.
[11:55] <Jado> Dr_willis, any idea for me ?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> Jado,   did the update/upgrade work yet?   it may be that konqueror is just confused. if the package manager is able to see the internet and  download stuff. then you should be avble to enable the extra repos. and install whatever extra drivers you need.
[11:57] <Dr_willis> actrually  the restricted-manager tool can proberly auto download them if the network is working
[11:57] <add616> compiz is not working
[11:57] <add616> how can enable compiz
[11:57] <Dr_willis>  add616  for starters if ysing nvidia card - you need to install the nvidia drivers.
[11:58] <Jado> i have the same problem from the restricted manager, although ping is working
[11:58] <Jado> what should i add on the sources.list ?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Jado,  fire up adept and use its manage sources feature. to enable the universe and multiverse and other sources
[12:00] <Dr_willis> repository = source :)
[12:00] <add616> i completed download in reprisotory, my problem how can activate compiz
[12:01] <Dr_willis> adept manager - > adept  menu  -> manage reposiutories.  check all the  different  ones, main, universe, restricted, multiverse and so on.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> add616,   you installed everything that !compiz guide told you?
[12:02] <jeka_> hi all
[12:03] <Jado> hi
[12:03] <jeka_> i go on Kubuntu
[12:03] <Jado> Dr_willis, i just installed kubuntu, i don't know what to do, i opened adept, what next ?
[12:03] <jeka_> i want a legal soft
[12:03] <jeka_> =
[12:03] <jpatrick> jeka_: legal soft?
[12:04] <jeka_> yes =)
[12:04] <jeka_> free
[12:04] <jeka_> no cracks, keygens
[12:04] <Dr_willis> try being a little more clear.
[12:04] <Dr_willis> You normally dont need to pirate stuff for linux
[12:04] <Jado> yes it's what he told
[12:05] <Jado> Dr_willis i just opened adept, what shoud i do next ?
[12:05] <Dr_willis> jado     adept manager - > adept  menu  -> manage reposiutories.  check all the  different  ones, main, universe, restricted, multiverse and so on.
[12:05] <jeka_> is IRC on Russian?
[12:05] <SlimeyPete> !ru
[12:05] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:05] <jeka_> i bad speak on english
[12:05] <jeka_> thank
[12:05] <SlimeyPete> :)
[12:05] <Apocalypse_dn> jeka_, where are you from&
[12:05] <Apocalypse_dn> ?
[12:05] <jeka_> #ubuntu-ru
[12:05] <Apocalypse_dn> ааа
[12:05] <Apocalypse_dn> понятно
[12:05] <Apocalypse_dn> ))
[12:06] <Apocalypse_dn> sorry fo russian
[12:06] <jpatrick> !enter | Apocalypse_dn
[12:06] <ubotu> Apocalypse_dn: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:07] <Apocalypse_dn> jpatrick, ok, sorry again))
[12:11] <Jado> Dr_willis all that were already checked
[12:14] <Jado> Dr_willis there were nothing more to check
[12:14] <Dr_willis> i would update, then upgrade, then try installing whatever it was you were wanting to install again.
[12:18] <Dr_willis> night all - its bed time here.
[12:20] <shadows22> excellent boulot...
[12:20] <shadows22> salutation! / hi all
[12:21] <Jado> salut ^^
[12:22] <shadows22> Ya t il un utilisateur confirmé... qui puisse me dire comment configurer Konversation ... pour Orange? ( irc.voila.fr )
[12:23] <stdin> !fr | shadows22
[12:23] <ubotu> shadows22: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:23] <compi_> DR_willis.... Many thanks... I came right with installing wine!!!!  tnx....
[12:23] <shadows22> ha thx! =)
[12:24] <wsjunior> Is "Administrator mode" of KControl supposed to work?
[12:25] <stdin> KConfrol or System Settings?
[12:25] <wsjunior> I think I need to change something to make it work, but I don't know what
[12:25] <wsjunior> stdin: Both
[12:25] <stdin> in what release?
[12:25] <wsjunior> Gutsy
[12:25] <wsjunior> It seems it's a problem with kdesu and sudo
[12:25] <wsjunior> I saw some bug reports without solution
[12:25] <stdin> hmm, can you start one from konsole and post the output to pastebin?
[12:26] <wsjunior> Yes, sure. Hold on.
[12:27] <Sbucat> kaboooom :) hello
[12:28] <wsjunior> stdin: http://rafb.net/p/yBVeua81.html
[12:28] <add616> are u familiar with valahalla linux
[12:28] <wsjunior> This is what i got starting systemsettings and pressing "Administrator mode" button
[12:28] <add616> my database program is using valahalla
[12:30] <wsjunior> stdin: It asked for the root password and went back to the same screen after a quick refresh of the window
[12:30] <stdin> wsjunior: does this happen every time or just sometimes? ie: does it still happen after a logout/in or a reboot?
[12:33] <Thecks> Hey - I'm on the Live CD, wiped my old install with QTParted and I'm trying to install via the install program.
[12:33] <wsjunior> stdin: Just after using sudo
[12:33] <Thecks> However, it gets to step three and after I click next, it checks the HDD and then just stops.
[12:34] <Thecks> Step 3 is choosing your keyboard layout.
[12:35] <stdin> wsjunior: does sudo have the same symptoms,  fails after one use on the command line?
[12:37] <Thecks> Nobody? This is kind of a show stopper for me :(
[12:37] <RomanRudenko> Hmmm
[12:37] <RomanRudenko> How do I rotate a screen in kubuntu?
[12:38] <SAngeli> Hi, is it possible to know why anytime I update my system, I get this error with system crash? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56350/  any advice please?
[12:40] <pteague> Thecks> what kind of hard drive?
[12:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody had any problems with that big update to kde from last week?
[12:42] <Thecks> pteague: I think I've got it :)
[12:42] <Thecks> I'll let cha know
[12:42] <Thecks> I restarted and now QTParted is letting me create partitions, hopefully then it will be recognized by the installer :)
[12:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> I would like to know if it is safe to perform the update.
[12:43] <SAngeli> Hi, is it possible to know why anytime I update my system, I get this error with system crash? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56350/  any advice please?
[12:45] <pteague> seems like your missing debugging symbols, but i wouldn't know why
[12:46] <SAngeli> pteague: any advice how to at least fix this?
[12:46] <SAngeli> pteague: it is not a nice feeling seeing yon your pc this error
[12:47] <pteague> SAngeli> have you tried reinstalling?  what version did you initially install from?
[12:48] <SAngeli> I installed few weeks ago and it is 7.10 latest from cd
[12:48] <SAngeli> It would be not nice to reinstall what already has been istalled
[12:48] <SAngeli> perhaps, it should be fixed by knowing which files to reinstall
[12:49] <SAngeli> but I do not know which ones
[12:50] <Pendeta> Is it possible to configure 2 monitors from the LiveCD? Connect to the Internet? View files on a NTFS?
[12:50] <pteague> i know when you run aptitude or apt-get search from the terminal it will tell you whether something is installed or not & whether there is a conflict with something... not sure how to do a search for everything though
[12:50] <sylvain-fr> Hi all
[12:51] <pteague> Pendeta> by default the live cd pulls up both my monitors, but in a mirrored view, i haven't tried configuring past there
[12:51] <RomanRudenko> Let me bother you again. How do I rotate the monitor in 7.10?
[12:52] <sev_> how many people here?
[12:52] <jussi01>  /names
[12:52] <Pendeta> pteague, can you connect to the Internet?
[12:52] <pteague> Pendeta> yep
[12:53] <sylvain-fr> I search how to disable some buttons on the stop menu (hibernate, turn off, restart...)
[12:54] <Pendeta> peteague, can you mount NTFS file system?
[12:55] <pteague> Pendeta> kind of depends on what drivers your lan card requires...  a couple of my computers used to have issues as the drivers for their lan card weren't on the install cd... i've not had issues with my 2 desktops or my laptop
[12:55] <pteague> Pendeta> i can mount it after i've installed... i've not tried off the live cd
[12:56] <pteague> Pendeta> if you're wanting to just mess around with it & not wanting to mess up your windows install... i'd suggest downloading vmware server or virtualbox for windows (both free) & install (k|x)?ubuntu under that
[13:01] <Pendeta> pteague, I really want to install to duel boot. Problem is that I created a nightmare for myself by installing XP on a fake raid 0+1; I don't know if ubuntu can be installed on that or not.
[13:02] <pteague> 0+1 is striped & mirrored ?
[13:03] <Pendeta> Yes.
[13:03] <Pendeta> 4 hard drives.
[13:04] <Pendeta> I've not been able to find any docs about raid 0+1 and ubuntu.
[13:04] <jlr4u> n Nautilus I could right click on the desktop and access my shell scripts at .gnome2/nautilus-script.
[13:04] <pteague> Pendeta> that's the reason i put together a file server...  i'm not sure that you're going to be able to get win raid to work with linux & vice versa
[13:05] <jlr4u> How can I add functionality to the desktop right-click in Kubuntu?
[13:06] <Pendeta> What is a file server?
[13:06] <Jado> anyone knows why i can ping websites but not connect to internet ?
[13:06] <pteague> a separate box that's not used as a desktop
[13:08] <pteague> Pendeta> http://www.google.com/search?q=fileserver
[13:08] <Lynoure> Jado: if you can ping websites, you _are_ connected to internet... so what do you mean?
[13:08] <Pendeta> pteague, thanks. I'll read that.
[13:09] <pteague> i use mine for storing files, my subversion repositories, & my test server for web development
[13:09] <Jado> Lynoure i mean i can't connect to website by konqueror for example
[13:10] <Lynoure> Jado: Any firewalling at play? what happens if you try a) with an ip?  b) telnet www.google.com 80 ?
[13:10] <ForgeAus> hey Lynoure :)
[13:10] <ForgeAus> hehe telnet google?
[13:10] <Jado> i tried ping www.google.fr
[13:10] <Jado> and it worked
[13:11] <ForgeAus> Jado as long as you don't flood with pings I don't see why it shouldn't
[13:11] <Jado> it shouldn't because i can't access on google.fr (or any other website) in konqueror :(
[13:12] <ForgeAus> you mean you have dns but no browsing?
[13:12] <Jado> Lynoure telnet www.google.com 80 works well
[13:12] <prince_jammys> Jado: do---> www-browser google.com
[13:12] <prince_jammys> Jado: ok if telnet works forget it
[13:12] <pteague> could be that port 80 or tcp services are blocked...  icmp is a different connection type
[13:12] <Jado> google.com contacted, waiting for reply...
[13:13] <connyosis> hi there. I have a friend who is going to install kubuntu but he doesn't want X to start on boot. He prefers logging in at a prompt and starting X manually should he feel like it. How does one go about making kubuntu not start X at boot?
[13:13] <sars> hi some one know a good php editor for kubuntu feaisty fawn ho color php function and give information about param like dreamweaver?
[13:13] <Jado> ForgeAus i don't know what that means, but i mean that i can ping on the terminal, but i can't browse
[13:14] <prince_jammys> sars  don't know, i just use kate
[13:14] <ForgeAus> yes but you can resolve domain names like it will connect to www.google.fr you don't need to give it a string of numbers (ie an IP like 241.295.81.132
[13:14] <ForgeAus> wait 295 is invalid but you get my point
[13:14] <pteague> sars> there's something like gphpedit or something... it's more of a gnome app, but it works under kde... however, i prefer eclipse + phpeclipse
[13:15] <Jado> i know what an IP is ^^ but i don't understand what you mean
[13:15] <Jado> my english is bad :/
[13:15] <pteague> kate is nice :)  but just does syntax highlighting
[13:15] <ForgeAus> well dns all it does is translates the name to the number
[13:15] <prince_jammys> Jado: try in browser window:::      64.233.167.99
[13:15] <Jado> ok so dns works well
[13:15] <ForgeAus> ie www.google.fr has an IP, and that ip is transparent to the user because of DNS
[13:15] <ForgeAus> prince I don't think that will fix
[13:16] <sars> thank you i will try eclipce
[13:16] <ForgeAus> he has a config issue
[13:16] <ForgeAus> either network config or konqueror config
[13:16] <Jado> www-browser google.com didn't worked
[13:16] <prince_jammys> ForgeAus: yes, but be
[13:16] <ForgeAus> jado I suggest perhaps an apt-get reinstall konqueror (is there a reinstall?) ???
[13:16] <prince_jammys> Jado: no ouput at all?
[13:16] <Jado> waiting for reply ...
[13:16] <Jado> i stopped it
[13:16] <prince_jammys> ForgeAus: yes but why would www-browser not work
[13:17] <prince_jammys> if its a konq issue
[13:17] <ForgeAus> prince configuration issue like I said
[13:17] <pag> Jado, you can ping, but konq doesn't work? - try disabling knetworkmanager; should fix the issue
[13:17] <ForgeAus> feel free to use www-browser if thats valid instead of konqueror if you like
[13:17] <prince_jammys> www-browser independent of konq
[13:17] <Jado> 64.233.167.99 doesn't work neither
[13:17] <ForgeAus> or get firefox, whatever
[13:17] <Jado> www-browser doesn't work.
[13:17] <ForgeAus> konqueror isn't connected to the internet
[13:17] <ForgeAus> www either?
[13:17] <ForgeAus> hmmm somethings wrong somewhere
[13:18] <Jado> www ?
[13:18] <ForgeAus> can ping but can't http at all?
[13:18] <ForgeAus> Jado i was abbreviating
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  : )
[13:18] <ForgeAus> explicityl I meant "www-browser" (I just shortened it)
[13:18] <pag> hello BluesKaj :-)
[13:18] <BluesKaj> hi pag
[13:19] <Lynoure> Jado: which browsers have you tried? have you restarted konqueror?
[13:19] <ForgeAus> it could be a port thing
[13:19] <ForgeAus> if port 80 is blocked by something?
[13:19] <Lynoure> proxy settings could do that too
[13:19] <Jado> telnet www.google.com 80 works well
[13:19] <Jado> i don't have proxy
[13:19] <Jado> i tried konqueror only
[13:19] <ForgeAus> ok well I don't know then
[13:19] <Jado> i restarted my computer several times
[13:20] <pag> Jado, please: do me a favour; disable knetworkmanager, and try, if the konqueror starts working.
[13:20] <prince_jammys> Lynoure: he tried konq and a text-only browser:: problem is not konq specific
[13:20] <ForgeAus> its not port psecific its not konq specific
[13:20] <ForgeAus> sounds elusively specific
[13:20] <Lynoure> prince_jammys: weird then than telnet to a site works...
[13:21] <ForgeAus> hard to track down to just one issue
[13:21] <pag> Jado, I know it sounds like a stupid idea, but I've noticed it works in ~70% of similiar problems
[13:21] <prince_jammys> Jado: just to quadruple check :::: www-browser any site
[13:21] <prince_jammys> Jado: other than google :)
[13:21] <ForgeAus> yeah well I guess google could have been cached
[13:21] <Jado> how do i disable knetworkmanager ?
[13:22] <ForgeAus> but how do you cache telnet???
[13:22] <pag> Jado, alt+f2 ->  killall knetworkmanager
[13:22] <prince_jammys> ah knetworkmanager, that's sounds promising
[13:22] <prince_jammys> that
[13:22] <BluesKaj> hmm, try Firefox to eliminate konq as the prob
[13:22] <Jado> www-browser www.hp.com --> www.hp.com contacted. waiting for reply ... then nothing
[13:23] <ForgeAus> BluesKaj its doesn't appear to be just konqui
[13:23] <prince_jammys> Jado: read above about knetworkmanager
[13:24] <BluesKaj> it may not appear to be but are you sure ?
[13:24] <Jado> i killed knetworkmanager process
[13:24] <prince_jammys> BluesKaj: yes, tried text only browser and didnt work
[13:24] <Jado> but it still doesn't work
[13:24] <pag> Jado, restart konqueror?
[13:24] <prince_jammys> you have to restart it, i think
[13:25] <Jado> i restarted it
[13:25] <Jado> should i restart my pc ?
[13:25] <prince_jammys> no, knetworkmanager
[13:25] <pag> Jado, no.
[13:25] <prince_jammys> unless it restarts automatically
[13:25]  * BluesKaj retreats :) 
[13:26] <pag> prince_jammys, I'd suggest we keep knetworkmanager off...
[13:26] <prince_jammys> pag oh OK
[13:26] <Jado> i resi keep it off
[13:26] <prince_jammys> disregard, i thought it was necessary
[13:26] <Jado> i keep it off*
[13:27] <Jado> i still can ping
[13:27] <Jado> i restarted konqueror but it still doesn't work
[13:27] <pag> Jado, try the following in Konsole:  sudo /etc/init.d/interfaces resart
[13:27] <pag> s/resart/restart
[13:27] <ForgeAus> probably not needs restart probably needs reconfig and/or reinstall
[13:28] <thecoko> list
[13:28] <Lynoure> Jado: out of curiousity... are you on irc from that machine or another? Does your other networking work?
[13:28] <ForgeAus> unless konqui isn't whats wrong of course
[13:28] <thecoko> Hi, where ara the chanel list?
[13:28] <Jado> i'm on a windows xp machine, my network works well
[13:29] <Jado> sudo /etc/init.d/interfaces restart not found :/
[13:29] <dZen|n|> hello do some of you have enemy territory game installed ? I have problems with downloading packets
[13:29] <Distro^Junkie> hmmm can't get sound outta all my speakers for surround
[13:29] <prince_jammys> Jado: wireless, correct?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Distro^Junkie, have you checked the vol ctrls in alsamixer ?
[13:30] <Distro^Junkie> yep
[13:30] <Distro^Junkie> turn on surround and it comes surround in 2 of the speakers
[13:30] <Jado> first i wanted to connect wireless, but i don't have drivers, then i plugged an ethernet cable in order to download drivers for the wireless, but it didn't work
[13:30] <jpatrick> Tonio_: yo
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Distro^Junkie, how about in kmix?
[13:31] <Tonio_> jpatrick: re ;)
[13:31] <Tonio_> just a little switch to kde4 to take kdesudo snapshots for kde-apps ;)
[13:31] <Distro^Junkie> same
[13:31] <Jado> why " sudo /etc/init.d/interfaces restart " isn't found ?
[13:32] <Jado> pag prince_jammys have you another idea for me ?
[13:32] <Distro^Junkie> and I know they all work cause I dual boot with windows (wife is a mindless winblows user)
[13:32] <prince_jammys> Jado: no sorry -- but i recall earlier you were having trouble related to wireless
[13:32] <BluesKaj> ok, Distro^Junkie , using amarok ?
[13:32] <pag> Jado, probably because I remembered the path wrong..
[13:32] <Distro^Junkie> amarok or last.fm
[13:33] <prince_jammys> Jado: or maybe related to having more than one interface? i dont know ... check pag
[13:33] <Distro^Junkie> amarok is only giving me the xine engine
[13:33] <Jado> i have two interface
[13:33] <Jado> wireless and ethernet
[13:33] <Jado> wireless is by defaut but doesn't work
[13:33] <pag> Jado, and umm.. try installing firefox  (apt works, right?)  then we will at least see, if it works.
[13:33] <Jado> so i'm trying ethernet
[13:34] <BluesKaj> ok Distro^Junkie , but have you got the speaker arrangement tab set for surround 5.1 or whatever setup you have ?
[13:35] <Jado> "package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoloted, or is only available from another source"
[13:35] <Jado> when apt-get install firefox
[13:35] <Distro^Junkie> yes I do BluesKaj
[13:36] <pag> Jado, ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install firefox '
[13:36] <BluesKaj> well, then Distro^Junkie I'm stumped , short of making sure the connections are ok
[13:36] <Jado> adept manager doesn't work neither, when i do "fetch updates" it stucks at 27% "waiting for headers"
[13:36] <Distro^Junkie> is alsa installed by default ?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> nope
[13:37] <Jado> in the terminal also : 27% "waiting for headers"
[13:37] <Jado> when apt-get update
[13:37] <pag> Jado, just wait.. it should timeout at some point
[13:37] <sylvain-fr> I search how to disable some buttons on the stop menu (hibernate, turn off, restart...)
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Distro^Junkie, in some cases it's not or you have to set it up in system settings /sound system/hardware tab
[13:38] <ForgeAus> whats it with debian/ubuntu and the whole bash and dash thing??
[13:38] <ForgeAus> and how do I counter this? (or is it true?) <wols> bash is installed on EVERY debian by default and is the default shell. always
[13:39] <sylvain-fr> I search how to disable some buttons on the stop menu (hibernate, turn off, restart...)
[13:39] <pag> ForgeAus, you can change default shell (at least) in /etc/passwd -file
[13:41] <Jado> pag what next ?
[13:42] <pag> Jado, did firefox install?
[13:42] <Jado> "waiting for headers" :/
[13:42] <pag> Jado, erm.. press ctrl+c
[13:43] <siofwolves> I enabled the ATI drivers in Restricted Drivers - System Settings and my box wouldn't boot to the login screen yesterday. according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI thats the way to go too. where do i go next ? btw radeon 9800 is my card.
[13:44] <Jado> i just rebooted my computer and i directly tried www.google.fr on konqueror it worked then i tried a research and it didn't, finally i retried www.google.fr and it wasn't working anymore
[13:44] <sylvain-fr> Does someone know "multi-seat" ?
[13:45] <Jado> any other idea ?
[13:45] <siofwolves> btw  if i try a manual install 'sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev debhelper libstdc++5 dkms' that seems to work, but, './ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy' doesn't. do i need to be in a specifuc directory?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, are you on a desktop ?
[13:45] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, yup
[13:46] <BluesKaj> have you considered checking for linux drivers for your monitor ?
[13:46] <Jado> pag, prince_jammys any other idea for me ?
[13:47] <spawn57> is there a way to turn off usplash, my computer isn't starting for some reason, and I wanna see the bootup screen
[13:47] <spawn57> um boot up messages
[13:48] <prince_jammys> Jado: sorry, no -- check on the web?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, check system settings/monitor&display/admin mode /configure monitor and look for the appropriate driver in the drop down list...apply , then reboot.
[13:49] <Jado> i searched :/
[13:49] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, ok
[13:51] <rufus> how do i install a KDE theme/style?
[13:55] <rufus> anyone know
[13:55] <Lynoure> Jado: do you reliably get ips for those sites?
[13:55] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, settings/monitor&display/admin mode/Hardware/Monitor #1 is where i'm changing the setting. i have a packard bell monitor, so trying the basic 'packard bell' setting.
[13:56] <Lynoure> Jado: like I asked earlier, how is your other networking from that machine?
[13:56] <Simon12> Hello
[13:56] <Simon12> I just installed Kubuntu, I thought compiz was included?
[13:57] <jpatrick> !compiz | Simon12
[13:57] <ubotu> Simon12: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:57] <Simon12> and, is there any way to handle multiple screens?
[13:57] <ForgeAus> simon yes
[13:57] <ForgeAus> you mean multi-head video adaptor?
[13:57] <Simon12> I couldnt find any UI for it
[13:57] <ForgeAus> you need to set the virtual desktop size
[13:57] <Simon12> I have a projector I want to dial view
[13:58] <Lynoure> Jado: if it was a computer I was on, I'd strace a browser (the simpler browser the better) and see what it does...
[13:58] <Simon12> *dual
[13:58] <faust> there is a channel for ubuntu in italian?
[13:58] <prince_jammys> Jado: check this out --- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=36004f7adefb33b96497575224d931cd&t=282034
[13:58] <faust> kubuntu*
[13:58] <PeP`> Hello, I'm searching the alpha 4 of hardy heron with KDE 4 (!), does the normal kubuntu i386 alternate install CD of hardy alpha4 contain KDE4 or is there a special iso somewhere?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, ok , you may end up with a "custom 1" or some such configuration , but don't be alarmed ,especially if it works  :)
[13:58] <ForgeAus> #kubuntu-it?
[13:58] <ForgeAus> wow there is a big one!
[14:00] <BluesKaj> PeP`, no, hardy and KDE4 are seperate , the default kde in hardy is still 3.5.8
[14:00] <IppatsuMan> faust: #ubuntu-it
[14:00] <Simon12> Right now I see the desktop on both my screen andmy projector, Id like them to be dual view instead
[14:00] <Kobol> Does anyone here use Kubuntu (With KDE4) on a laptop?
[14:00] <jpatrick> !kde4 > Kobol
[14:01] <Kobol> I was just going to ask how it performed, didn't need any support, thanks though :P
[14:01] <CaNCeRouS_CraB> i m getting horrible static in my ausio system in kubuntu.... there is no problem with earthing plz help
[14:02] <Enissay> i've just installed apache, and my browser try to download index.html from www directory... how can i fix this?
[14:02] <PeP`> BluesKaj: and do you know where I can download the iso or alpha 4 with KDE4? or would installing a command-line system and then the packages xserver-xorg, xfonts-base, kde4-core and maybe kdm be ok? (bit long...)
[14:02] <CaNCeRouS_CraB>  i have a dual boot system in windows there is no static ut in kubuntu there is horrible static
[14:03] <BluesKaj> KDE4 isn't ready for prime time , but if you're adventurous , read the MOTD for kde4 sources
[14:03] <frank23> PeP`: check this iso out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/kde4/
[14:04] <frank23> PeP`: it's unsupported though
[14:04] <PeP`> frank23: thank you
[14:05] <BluesKaj> CaNCeRouS_CraB, describe static and the setting in which it happens
[14:05] <PeP`> frank23: actually that is gutsy...  I am looking for the alpha 4 of hardy
[14:06] <CaNCeRouS_CraB> BluesKaj static noise... and default setting i dint do anything with the settings
[14:06] <CaNCeRouS_CraB> BluesKaj its sort of a hissing sound
[14:06] <BluesKaj> are you using amarok or a player of any kind or do you just have the volume cranked up
[14:08] <frank23> PeP`: oh. you probably have to install kde4 after you install the regular kubuntu hardy
[14:09] <PeP`> frank23: Ok... I wanted to test the combination without the old KDE interfering, but I guess I'm going to have to install a command-line system and then kde4-core
[14:09] <PeP`> and xorg
[14:09] <PeP`> of course
[14:10] <Simon12> how do I install the nvidia drivers?
[14:10] <Simon12> I suppose I better do that before fumbling with my scren settings
[14:10] <frank23> PeP`: that should work I guess. bonne chance
[14:11] <Pendeta> Is anyone here using Kubuntu with an NVIDIA nForce RAID Class Controller set to RAID 0+1?
[14:11] <PeP`> frank23: thank you :)
[14:12] <emanuele> sera a tt
[14:12] <jpatrick> !it | emanuele
[14:12] <ubotu> emanuele: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:13] <spawn57> damn kubuntu is crashing alot for me lately
[14:16] <Simon12> lol Im such a noob, I cant manage to install flash player for konq.
[14:16] <theunixgeek> How do I add page numbers in OOoWriter? :P
[14:16] <Simon12> I just downloaded a .tar.gz  but I dont know what to do with it
[14:17] <spawn57> Simon12: flash ...use adept and search for flash-nonfree
[14:17] <spawn57> and install it
[14:17] <jpatrick> !flash > Simon12
[14:18] <Simon12> thank you
[14:21] <Enissay> i wanna install php4-mysql wich isn't in the repositories... i download it but i can't install it because it has dependencies with other files.... wich repository do i have to add to install this package and all of it's dependencies?
[14:23] <Simon12> I dont get any results when searching for flash-nonfree
[14:23] <Simon12> :S
[14:23] <SlimeyPete> Simon12: flashplugin-nonfree
[14:24] <Simon12> cool
[14:25] <Simon12> hm, I klicked "request install" but nothing happens
[14:25] <RomanRudenko> Why would adept crash on a fresh 7.10 install in VMWare?
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> Simon12: and then you clicked apply?
[14:25] <Simon12> status: not installed, request: install
[14:25] <RomanRudenko> I can fetch the package list, but once I try to install it, adept dies
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> Simon12: you have to click Apply Changes
[14:26] <Simon12> hm, I dont see any apply, only "Cancel request" and "details"
[14:26] <Simon12> oooooh
[14:26] <Simon12> there
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> :)
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> Enissay: I don't think any of the official repositories will help you there. You may have to install all of it manually.
[14:27] <RomanRudenko> Also, a lot of K-menu entries are prefixed with _: Entry in K-Menu
[14:27] <felixhummel> where can i find a comprehensive list of kubuntu-compatible (p35-)motherboards?
[14:27] <SlimeyPete> RomanRudenko: might be a good idea to do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal
[14:28] <felixhummel> i found hardware for linux, but the search is... well, see for yourself: http://hardware4linux.info/search/
[14:28] <Simon12> hmmm, was that flash plugin for firefox only?
[14:28] <Simon12> because, I dont have firefox installed ( I think) and Konq is still asking me to download flash when I try to watch a video.
[14:28] <SlimeyPete> Simon12: I think you have to fiddle a bit to make it work in Konqueror
[14:28] <SlimeyPete> !flash
[14:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:28] <SlimeyPete> hmm
[14:28] <SlimeyPete> !konqueror
[14:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:29] <Simon12> well I rather use firefox anyway
[14:29] <SlimeyPete> Me too. Actually I use Opera but Firefox is my second choice.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> !flashissues
[14:29] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> felixhummel: I don't think that such a list exists.
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> though there is a compatibility section on the ubuntu wiki somewhere
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> !hardware
[14:30] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> yeah, there
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> it's not 100% complete though
[14:31] <RomanRudenko> Oh, now I know
[14:31] <RomanRudenko> Crashing is Adept Updater's way of saying that network is down :)
[14:31] <BluesKaj> I've always liked Konq but it has some quirks that irk me , like the jumping cursor in the google searchbar box, when trying to correct or add a word to a pahrase , that's PITA for KB challenged ppl like me .
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> RomanRudenko: heh, yeah, that sounds like the sort of thing Adept would do
[14:34] <felixhummel> thanks, SlimeyPete
[14:34] <alexey> Vista c'est génial
[14:36] <Simon12> dang, I accedently installed compiz for gnome and not compiz-kde, is it easy to uninstall? :S
[14:38] <RomanRudenko> Whoops... opening that VMWare Tools package with Ark was a big mistake
[14:39] <RomanRudenko> Now it tries to outslow Vista as it is reading and rendering the file tree
[14:39] <peppers> hi there
[14:39] <peppers> I was wondering, is there a command or commands that allows you to check the current doenstream and upstream in b/s or kb/s?
[14:39] <SlimeyPete> yes
[14:39] <SlimeyPete> "sudo apt-get install bwm"
[14:40] <peppers> could you tell me please?
[14:40] <SlimeyPete> then run "bwm"
[14:40] <peppers> hmm ok lemme try
[14:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody experienced any problems after updating kubuntu last week (in ref: the large kde update)?
[14:40] <Simon12> did I screw up my dear system now? :( Can I uninstall compiz?
[14:40] <jpatrick> gundam_rx78nt1: kde 3.5.9 has been release..
[14:42] <romunov> Simon12: you can uninstall compiz
[14:42] <ahmad_> hello, i can't connect to a wireless connection, can you help me to reconfigure my wireless connection?
[14:42] <romunov> Simon12: Simon12 see http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty---tutorial-for-advanced-andor-KDE-as-well-as-Xfce-users
[14:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> jpatrick: so that was that big push last week?
[14:43] <jpatrick> gundam_rx78nt1: kde 4.0.1 was the big push last week :)
[14:44] <peppers> SlimeyPete, in bwm, what's TX and what's RX?
[14:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> jpatrick: I am looking at the update list and it say: kde 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2
[14:45] <jpatrick> gundam_rx78nt1: security update that one
[14:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok.
[14:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> ahmad_: what is wrong with your wireless configuration?
[14:47] <ubuntufreak> I installed Kubuntu 7.04 in my system and after i restarted the screen is weird, how do i correct this
[14:48] <ahmad_> i can't connect to a wireless network, is there wrong with the settings?
[14:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> are you using the knetwork manager?
[14:49] <SlimeyPete> peppers: TX is transfer, RX is receive
[14:49] <SlimeyPete> so out and in
[14:50] <ubuntufreak> Is there anyway to correct the xserver using the live cd
[14:50] <ahmad_> gunndam, yup im'm using the knetwork manager.
[14:51] <SlimeyPete> ubuntufreak: you can mount your hard disk (it might be automounted in fact) and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:51] <SlimeyPete> if that's what you're after
[14:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> do you see available wireless netowrks or it doesn't show any?
[14:53] <ahmad_> the available network appears at the knetwork manager but still i cant connect.
[14:53] <crazymax> Hi!
[14:53] <SlimeyPete> hi, crazymax.
[14:54] <crazymax> I see it's enlish chanal
[14:54] <ahmad_> gundam, in fact the signal strenth is 71,
[14:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> so when you try to connect to a network, what does it tell you?
[14:55] <SlimeyPete> crazymax: yes, but there are other channels for other languages
[14:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> that is good enough for a decent connection...
[14:55] <SlimeyPete> crazymax: what language do you speak?
[14:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> have you configured any manual connections?
[14:55] <crazymax> Russian
[14:55] <SlimeyPete> !ru
[14:55] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:58] <ahmad_>  activating wireless network connection the the the lower portion corega (ra0), the 28% and activation stage: configuring device
[14:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> it doesn't go beyond the 28%
[15:00] <ahmad_> yup it doesn't go beyond 28%
[15:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> have you tried to use any other program besides knetwork manager?
[15:02] <Pendeta> raid
[15:03] <ahmad_> no not yet, i try to configure it manually, the rao is enabled at the network interface
[15:03] <shawn_> heya
[15:03] <shawn_> quick question
[15:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> if you are not connecting to a wpa encrypted network, then try another wifi manager program.  Many people here has changed the application for that reason.
[15:05] <ahmad_> then at the route, the ip address appears 192.168.1.1 same appears at the domain server name
[15:07] <ahmad_> ok gundam, i will try after i finish downlowding at the adept updater
[15:13] <TuxOtaku> hey guys, how would I go about changing KDE 3.5's default file manager to dolphin instead of konqueror?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !dolphin
[15:13] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[15:14] <TuxOtaku> ok cool
[15:14] <BluesKaj> so just sub dolphin for konq in that tutorial
[15:15] <simon_> hello, how do I mount a drive?
[15:18] <simon_> a ntsf drive to be precise
[15:18] <gundam_rx78nt1> !mount
[15:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:19] <TuxOtaku> one more question...does anyone know if there's a firefox theme based on the new crystal theme in KDE?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> simon_, also , install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config if you need access to an external drive .
[15:20] <simon_> ic ok
[15:20] <simon_> thx
[15:21] <ethan961> new theme ie oxygen?
[15:22] <ethan961> there is a skin for ff for crystal, I havnt seen an oxygen one yet
[15:23] <sigma_1234> someone is probably still making it
[15:23] <sigma_1234> anyway why bother using firefox. use konqueror
[15:25] <BluesKaj> sigma_1234, unfortunately FF has fewer "issues" on gutsy than konq does.
[15:27] <simon_> I can see my drive in the "System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem", but when I click it in the Dolphin - Storage Media I get "hal-storage-fixed-mount-options refused uid 1000" as an error message at the bottom.
[15:29] <prince_jammys> simon: what is the name of the mount point?
[15:29] <siofwolves> after a week of trying i have installed an ati driver :) i used this guide for anyone that needs it. -> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[15:31] <BluesKaj> yes siofwolves , it depends on what you want to do with your graphics
[15:33] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, I use the restricted driver cuz I want to have google earth , DRI and 3D ,on my onboard low end x200g ati card .
[15:34] <sigma_1234> yeah but firefox is so slow and eats resources
[15:34] <BluesKaj> sigma_1234, I beg to differ ..FF runs clean and fast here
[15:35] <stdin> check it's mem usage
[15:35] <sigma_1234> really? where did you download it from?
[15:36] <sigma_1234> it uses over 100mb. konq uses about 50 and its a file manager
[15:36] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, i just want to have the correct driver installed for my card, anything which I ran ie, scorched 3D would be very slow, which is'nt right.
[15:36] <simon_> hm, Kopete crashes for me when I try to log in at msn, is there another better IM out there for KDE?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> stdin, it does what I need it to do , konq hasn't kept up with innivations IMO ...was a konq user and fan for a long time but since Gutsy it's too restricted and PITA in some ways
[15:37] <stdin> BluesKaj: try FF3, you'll soon switch back :p
[15:37]  * siofwolves is happy now
[15:38] <sigma_1234> what is the word kompete supposed to mean?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, yesterday I suggested that you use the restricted default driver in system settings advanced
[15:38] <sigma_1234> sorry meant kopete
[15:39] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, i couldn't boot though. it frooze before the login screen.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> stdin, yeah FF3 is not ready for prime time
[15:39] <stdin> BluesKaj: tell that to the person that decided to make it the default FF version in hardy :/
[15:39] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, did you try to setup your monitor driver like I suggested?
[15:40] <_Angelus_> BluesKaj: the only 3issues i found in konq where, a bit flower then FF , you must use and old version of flash or it crashes , and amsn's direct linke to hotmail's acoount doenst workin it (which i dont use anymore cause i changed to gmail(
[15:40] <BluesKaj> _Angelus_, and gmail still doesn't render properly in konq
[15:40] <tj__> i used the ad/remove programs to install open arena but i can't find the program folder so i can add maps can anyone help
[15:41] <_Angelus_> i use gmail from kmail BluesKaj which works very good using pop3 and smtp
[15:41] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, yeah i did earlier, didn't try the restricted default driver in system settings advanced again though. i will next time ;)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> I'm using FF cuz it works right now ..as soon as konq is brought up to date , I'll switch back .
[15:42] <ForgeAus> hehe someone should make a kubunturix! :) (kubuntu on interix!)
[15:42] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, i suspect it's the same driver as the one you used in that tutorial
[15:42] <siofwolves> heh i have a monitor with packard bell on but it says NEC on the back. (NEC is what is the driver i'm using)
[15:43] <BluesKaj> _Angelus_, I'm still using kmail ..works fine with FF as the browser
[15:43] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, i agree. i never knew the monitor needed to be correctly selected. i do now though.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> yes gmail is linked to my kmail as well
[15:44] <BluesKaj> siofwolves, yes ppl overlook the importance of monitor drivers
[15:45] <siofwolves> BluesKaj, thanks for your help. :)
[15:47] <tj__> how do i see .folders in the home dir
[15:47] <_Angelus_> tj__: command line or dolphin?
[15:48] <tj__> i don't see any og the folder in the home folder that start like .folder
[15:50] <tj__> dolphin shows the home folder but i guess i'm trying to see hidden folders
[15:51] <Arwen> ctrl+h perhaps?
[15:52] <Arwen> alt+. *
[15:52] <jykke> I am running kubuntu edgy on my laptop I have some problems getting wireless to start with boot
[15:52] <jykke> I made S42wireless-restart and linked that to a shell script in /etc/init.d that does a restart but it does not work
[15:53] <jykke> I need to do manual restart after boot and then the interface is up
[15:53] <tj__> alt+. worked thanks alot
[15:53] <simon_> Im trying to figure out how to install ntsf-3g
[15:54] <simon_> I couldnt find it in the adept manager
[15:54] <simon_> how do I do?
[15:56] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | simon_
[15:56] <ubotu> simon_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:58] <tj__> why does dolphin always give me the error can't save bookmark ever time i close a window out
[16:00] <tj__> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/tj/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[16:00] <sub[t]rnl> tj__➜ sudo chown tj ~/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[16:01] <simon_> is there any winamp like app where u canb listen to internet radio?
[16:01] <stdin> simon_: what, you don't like amarok?
[16:01] <tj__> i did sudo chown tj ~/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml sorry same error
[16:02] <stdin> tj__: try "sudo chown -R tj:tj  ~/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/"
[16:02] <simon_> I couldnt find any radio thingy there, will take another look
[16:04] <tj__> worked thanks
[16:05] <walmik> hello enlightened ones... can anybody pls tell me the right java paeclipseckages to be installed for running
[16:05] <walmik> java packages for eclipse
[16:06] <simon_> stdin > "Error loading media. There is no available decoder." :(
[16:06] <Ayabara> anyone with a Dell XPS M1530 about?
[16:07] <walmik> !javA
[16:07] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:07] <simon_> weird, I just installed ntsf-config and absoluitly nothing happens when I try to run it from System->NTSF Config Tool
[16:10] <AndreSTC> how to read DVD on kubuntu?
[16:10] <jpatrick> !dvd
[16:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:11] <AndreSTC> jpatrick "for playing DVD" link isnt working
[16:12] <simon_> Anyone have an idea of why nothing happens when I run NTSF Config Tool?
[16:12] <selckin> running it console?
[16:12] <jpatrick> AndreSTC: works here
[16:14] <PhilRod> hi, stupid question: is there a standard way to control laptop fans in kubuntu, or do I need something specific to my make/model?
[16:15] <jpatrick> PhilRod: hmm, I'd like to know that too
[16:16] <PhilRod> well, so apparently the i8k tools will control the fan on my laptop, but I'm running from a live cd, so I'd have to install it somehow. Is that possible on the kubuntu livecd?
[16:17] <simon_> selckin: nope
[16:18] <selckin> try that, see if it outputs any text
[16:20] <AndreSTC> i have a dvd with some files... i put it in the driver... it shows there is a new media found, i click on it to open on a new window and nothing happens... where can i acess the files on the dvd?
[16:20] <simon_> selckin, do u know how?
[16:21] <obituary> hi
[16:21] <obituary> anybody please tell me how to conect wireless in kubuntu
[16:23] <sigma_1234> will ubuntu mobile edition be able to run on the eeepc?
[16:26] <sigma_1234> sorry got dc. did anyone reply to my question?
[16:30] <migue> hi
[16:31] <jussi01> hi
[16:36] <TuxOtaku> is there any way to make the clock applet in kde 3.5's kicker transparent?
[16:37] <Simon12> 1. Anyone knows how to run ntsf-config from the console in kde? 2. Anyone know why I get "there is no available decoder" when trying to listen to a radio stream in Amarok?
[16:38] <Arwen> TuxOtaku, set your panel to be transparent
[16:40] <jussi01> Simon12: 2. install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:40] <jussi01> not sure about the ntfs-config - although have you tried running that command?
[16:44] <Simon12> jussi01: Yes, I tried to run just "ntsf-config", said "command not found"
[16:45] <jussi01> Simon12: you have a typo, it should be ntfs-config
[16:46] <Simon12> that was only here =)
[16:46] <Simon12> good eyes tho
[16:46] <Simon12> hm no it wasnt, lol
[16:46] <Simon12> brb
[16:47] <freeksh0w86> i can't get ogg vorbis files ripped from CD's to play... i tried both k3b and KAudioCreator. any ideas? i can get older vorbis audio files to play though...
[16:47] <kenneth> hello all
[16:47] <jussi01> freeksh0w86: what error does it give?
[16:47] <jussi01> hi kenneth
[16:47] <kenneth> anyone know what channel i can chat on for emc2 ?
[16:48] <kenneth> hello juss
[16:48] <jussi01> kenneth: what is emc2?
[16:48] <freeksh0w86> @jussi01 no errors, all applications that try to play the ogg file either freeze or crash
[16:48] <kenneth> cnc(machining) software
[16:48] <jussi01> kenneth: no idea. sorry
[16:48] <kenneth> ok  thanks anyway
[16:49] <kenneth> off to look....have fun..............and thanks again juss
[16:49] <freeksh0w86> well, mplayer, when i run it from the command line, keeps trying to select "ffmpeg/libavcodec" to play the ogg
[16:49] <jussi01> gah, when will people learn tab completion :(
[16:50] <freeksh0w86> er... it is the "vorbis decoder though"
[16:50] <jussi01> freeksh0w86: Im not sure what should cause that.
[16:50] <jussi01> freeksh0w86: you could look at the !codecs page, but Im not sure anything there will help
[16:51] <freeksh0w86> !codecs
[16:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:53] <freeksh0w86> maybe i should just restart KDE and try again since none of my ogg files seem to work right now
[16:53] <jussi01> freeksh0w86: that may help...
[16:57] <TuxOtaku> Arwen, I don't want the ENTIRE panel transparent, I just want the clock to blend in with the pixmapped background I have on my panel
[16:57] <hektik> whats the latest version of the nvidia drivers in the package manager?
[16:58] <Arwen> TuxOtaku, doesn't work that way, mfraid
[17:00] <hektik> whats the latest version of the nvidia drivers in the package manager?
[17:01] <jussi01> !info nvidia-glx-new | hektik
[17:01] <ubotu> hektik: nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (2.6.22.4-14.10)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[17:01] <jussi01> hektik: please be a little patient ;)
[17:01] <hektik> the only way to run 3d acceleration with nvidia 8800gt is to install the latest drivers from the nvidia webpage right ?
[17:01] <hektik> sorry. didnt mean to type twice
[17:02] <jussi01> hektik: I suspect so - I think hardy will have the new drivers
[17:02] <hektik> when does hardy come out ?
[17:02] <jussi01> april
[17:03] <jussi01> !info nvidia-glx-new hardy | hektik
[17:03] <ubotu> hektik: nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (2.6.24.9-8.22)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 169.09+2.6.24.9-8.22 (hardy), package size 5124 kB, installed size 15232 kB
[17:03] <hektik> yea, there it is
[17:05] <hektik> thats not cool
[17:11] <simon12> !nvidia
[17:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:11] <simon12> hm, how do u get the bot to say smart things?
[17:11] <simon12> ah there we go
[17:13] <simon12> hm, I tried to install the nvidia drivers by installing nvidia-glx-new from the adept manager, installation was successfull, but I cant find any configuration application anywhere.
[17:13] <|Dreams|> is it possible to replace kde 3.5 with kde 4?
[17:15] <|Dreams|> or should i just wait for the next version of kubuntu
[17:15] <Arwen> !kde4
[17:15] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:15] <Arwen> it is, but whether it's advisable is a whole other question
[17:15] <simon12> !compiz
[17:16] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:16] <|Dreams|> so i should just wait for the next release
[17:17] <ninher> hi all
[17:19] <BluesKaj> !Flashissues
[17:19] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[17:23] <BluesKaj> the nonfree flash plug mentioned above , how can that be the the older version that is supposed to work in konqueror ?
[17:46] <johey> How can I update to KTorrent 2.2.5 in Gutsy Gibbon?
[17:46] <Arwen> johey, by installing it
[17:47] <jahromeo> where are the .bin files stored for aptget?
[17:48] <NickPresta> !info ktorrent
[17:48] <johey> Arwen: Is there a package for it, or should I apt-get remove it first and then install it from source or something?
[17:48] <ubotu> ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[17:48] <NickPresta> johey, there is version 2.2.1 in the repos. Any reason why you need 2.2.5?
[17:48] <johey> NickPresta: Yes. <2.2.5 is banned from a site.
[17:49] <Arwen> johey, download the source, copy over the debian packaging information from a Debian source package, build.
[17:49] <NickPresta> johey, ah I see. You would have to compile, it seems.
[17:49] <jahromeo> where are the .bin files stored for aptget?
[17:49] <SlimeyPete> they're .deb, not .bin
[17:49] <NickPresta> johey, I would use checkinstall, to create a deb so your update process is not screwed up in the future.
[17:49] <SlimeyPete> and they're somewhere in /var/apt
[17:49] <Arwen> or install the Hardy package Phttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/ktorrent)
[17:49] <Arwen> (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/ktorrent)*
[17:49] <NickPresta> !checkinstall > johey
[17:49] <SlimeyPete> /var/apt/cache I think
[17:50] <Arwen> ...
[17:50] <jahromeo> thanks
[17:50] <Arwen> ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/ktorrent )
[17:50] <jahromeo> \
[17:50] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[17:50] <Arwen> !checkinstall | do not use
[17:50] <ubotu> do not use: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[17:50] <jahromeo> scorpion maybe you can help me - my apt-get gets corrupted and i get segmentation faults
[17:50] <jpatrick> Arwen: why not?
[17:50] <jahromeo> if im using a frontend such as adept
[17:51] <Arwen> jpatrick, it kills dependency handling
[17:51] <jahromeo> so i switched to synaptic didnt have the fault whole day and its occured again
[17:51] <jahromeo> is there a quick fix other than del the bin and using the console?
[17:51] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: any errors from the command line?
[17:51] <jahromeo> command line is fine - if i use that , but soon as i use frontend it corrupts the .bin
[17:51] <jahromeo> no matter if its adept or synaptic
[17:51] <NickPresta> Arwen, I don't know if it is a problem but KTorrent in Hardy requires libc6 >= 2.7.1. Gutsy only has 2.6.1.
[17:51] <johey> Oki, NickPresta. Thanks!
[17:51] <Arwen> NickPresta, well, that would be a problem. Hehe.
[17:52] <NickPresta> Which is why you should use checkinstall install of installing a deb meant for something else :)
[17:52] <Arwen> NickPresta, no, that means you should make a proper deb package
[17:52] <Arwen> per !packaging
[17:53] <NickPresta> I aware of packing, and I'm not going to argue with you, but some people may find that intimidating and time consuming for something as simple as upgrading a minor version of KTorrent.
[17:54] <innname> o
[17:54] <IIVQ> hello
[17:54] <innname> hi
[17:55] <jahromeo> how does on search for something via apt-get?
[17:55] <NickPresta> jahromeo, apt-cache search PACKAGE
[17:55] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: maybe reinstall adept?
[17:55] <jahromeo> thanks
[17:55] <jahromeo> adept/synaptic both do it
[17:55] <jahromeo> im not going to use frontends anymore
[17:55] <jahromeo> they corrupt my things and cause me headaches
[17:56] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: you can also try to start adept_installer from konsole and see if any errors show in konsole
[17:56] <jahromeo> it does it with synaptic too
[17:57] <jahromeo> until i del those 2.bin files
[17:57] <jahromeo> neither will run
[17:57] <jahromeo> nor will apt-get
[17:57] <NickPresta> jahromeo, we need error messages and such. We can't guess the problem (most of the time ;) anyways)
[17:57] <ScorpKing> what .bin files?
[17:57] <IIVQ> question: how do I disable spell-checking in kubuntu?
[17:59] <NightBird> IIVQ: that may be a program specific thing, what program are you wanting to do it in?
[17:59] <jahromeo> jerome@AbadonwareLinux:/var/cache/apt$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[17:59] <jahromeo> Reading package lists... Done
[17:59] <jahromeo> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:59] <jahromeo> that is it
[17:59] <jahromeo> thats all it is
[17:59] <jahromeo> i del the .bin and apt-get/frontend works again well synaptic does - adept is a piece of bollocks that keeps crashing so i dont use it
[17:59] <IIVQ> NightBird, in this case: in XChat
[18:00] <unagi> anyone have funky crap going on when they start kubuntu, like tray icons not showing up and adept notifier in a window?
[18:00] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: what .bin ?
[18:00] <IIVQ> but actually, in all programs (except for openoffice)
[18:00] <jahromeo> in the apt/cache folder
[18:00] <NickPresta> unagi, you running Compiz Fusion?
[18:00] <unagi> yes
[18:00] <NightBird> IIVQ: dunno then
[18:00] <jahromeo> sudo rm pkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin - dels and stops segmentation error to frontend like adept/synaptic
[18:00] <IIVQ> NightBird, Konqueror also has spell checking on input boxes. It's annoying the hell out of me
[18:00] <unagi> NickPresta: yes
[18:00] <NickPresta> unagi, That is the problem. I don't think they know of a fix yet.
[18:00] <unagi> oh
[18:01] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: what does dmesg | tail say? please don't paste here.
[18:01] <unagi> would it maybe help if i delayed the start of comppiz?
[18:01] <ScorpKing> !paste > jahromeo
[18:01] <Distro^Junkie> The ALSA soundsystem is either busy or not present. <--- keep getting this in the last.fm radio player
[18:02] <NickPresta> unagi, I don't think so. Ask in #compiz-fusion. There may be a fix since I last checked.
[18:02] <Distro^Junkie> but its showing it as an option in the player
[18:02] <jahromeo> im telling you its the .bin that corrupts
[18:02] <jahromeo> when i del em frontend works fine
[18:02] <jahromeo> but ill paste it
[18:02] <jahromeo> http://pastebin.com/m7ffa9bc9
[18:03] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: i don't say it's not. i just can see why. nothing in dmesg
[18:03] <jahromeo> nobody yesterday for 2 hrs could tell me why its doing what its doing\
[18:04] <jahromeo> in kubuntu/ubuntu/compiz-fusion
[18:04] <jahromeo> i had em all stumped
[18:04] <jahromeo> best solution was del .bin and dont use a frontend
[18:04] <jahromeo> when im not using frontend it doesnt happen
[18:04] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: any full filesystems? see df -h
[18:04] <jahromeo> cli = fine
[18:04] <jeisma> anyone here familiar with perl/longest common subsequence prob?
[18:04] <jeisma> jahromeo whats the prob?
[18:05] <simon12> hello. Im playing around in nvidia settings, trying to get my dual view config to work. It finaly works pretty nice, except that its my secondary monitor that acts as the main one. I cant find any way in the UI to select wich one should be the main one. Anyone knows?
[18:05] <biovore> you can do everything in CLI.. you can't do everything from a GUI..
[18:05] <jahromeo> http://pastebin.com/m24b2492c
[18:05] <biovore> simon12: I think there is an option you can put in xorg.conf to say.. to the right or to the left..  It also maters what port on the graphics card your using.
[18:05] <jahromeo> if i use a frontend like adept/synaptic it corrupts pkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin and i gotta del em before apt-get will work again or i get segmentation faults
[18:06] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: nope, no full disks.
[18:06] <simon12> yes, Ive set it to the left, that works fine, except the tasbar is on the right side, and so is the login window.
[18:06]  * ScorpKing thinks..
[18:06] <simon12> so I assume the right one is, for some reason, acting as the main monitor
[18:06] <biovore> swap the connections on the graphics card.. (simplest way to go)
[18:07] <simon12> that one is a crt
[18:07] <simon12> cant do that
[18:07] <jahromeo> anway i need to restart x so i can use compiz
[18:07] <jahromeo> brb
[18:07] <biovore> swap where the monitors are sitting on the desk :-P
[18:07] <simon12> the monitor I want to be secondary that is now functioning as primary only has a vga input
[18:07] <simon12> its actually a projector to be precis :D
[18:08] <simon12> and its a pain in the a** to work at the wall :)
[18:08] <simon12> (because its behind me lol)
[18:08] <ScorpKing> simon12: have you looked in the monitor and display section in kcontrol?
[18:08] <simon12> hm kcontrol..
[18:09] <simon12> where do I find this kcontrol?
[18:09] <ScorpKing> simon12: press alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[18:11] <simon12> Only my projector is shown there
[18:11] <jahromeo> k back graphics is working now
[18:14] <jahromeo> so scorpion you have a think on why frontend corrups those .bins?
[18:14] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: no idea what else it could be with adept. try asking in #linux and #ubuntu
[18:14] <ScorpKing> jahromeo: reinstall adept maybe
[18:14] <jahromeo> linux channel aint newb friendly to say the least - they dont like noob users
[18:14] <jahromeo> scorpion - it does it on synaptic/adept
[18:15] <jahromeo> synaptic only once in like 2 days, adept every time i open
[18:15] <ScorpKing> really weird
[18:15] <jahromeo> compiz is working but now i got that error where my x boxes etc dissapear what is string to fix that again? e.g. parts of menus are missing
[18:15] <jahromeo> yep it is
[18:17] <NickPresta> jahromeo, emerald --replace
[18:17] <jahromeo> thats not it
[18:17] <jahromeo> didnt even have emerald installed
[18:17] <jahromeo> its some nvidia command
[18:17] <jahromeo> that i cant remember
[18:18] <jahromeo> To fix your compiz window decorations (titlebars) with an nVidia graphics card, run « sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 », then restart !X.
[18:18] <jahromeo> its that
[18:18] <NickPresta> ah okay.
[18:20] <Jahromeo> does adept start by default when you start a machine
[18:20] <Jahromeo> caus i keep getting adept errors
[18:20] <Arwen> is there a way to tell how much of my RAM is being used, discounting buffers and cache?
[18:20] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: have you tried - sudo apt-get update ?
[18:21] <Jahromeo> yes
[18:21] <NickPresta> Arwen, `free`?
[18:21] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: it might also be a good idea to look in /var/log/* for any usefull adept errors
[18:21] <Arwen> NickPresta, I suppose that works
[18:22] <Jahromeo> http://pastebin.com/m138de66e - i get that popup whenever i restart x / restart pc
[18:22] <NickPresta> Jahromeo, and this is on Gutsy?
[18:22] <Jahromeo> 7.10
[18:22] <Jahromeo> then i gotta del the 2.bins again
[18:22] <Jahromeo> its a pain in the ass
[18:23] <NickPresta> Jahromeo, yep, Gutsy. That is really strange. Personally, I would create a topic on ubuntuforums.org. Wait for someone to come and explain the situation.
[18:23] <simon12> I managed to move the task bar to the screen that I want to be primary by going in to Configure - KDE Panel, but Im afrid the login screen will still be shown on the projector. Hmm, When the computer starts the loading screen and Grub is shown on the projector aswell. Think its possible to change primary display from bios or something?
[18:23] <Jahromeo> if i wanna use apt-get aftger restart then i gotta del the 2.bin
[18:24] <Jahromeo> restarting to fix driveri ssues
[18:26] <Distro^Junkie> The ALSA soundsystem is either busy or not present. <--- keep getting this in the last.fm radio player but its showing it as an option in the player
[18:28] <sigma_1234> its prob busy then. can you play music fine in amarok?
[18:28] <Distro^Junkie> yes
[18:28] <Distro^Junkie> even though its using xine engine
[18:29] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: the 2 .bin's seems to be the database. after you delete them you must run sudo apt-get update coz they are supposed to be the from what i can see
[18:29] <ScorpKing> there*
[18:30] <Jahromeo> k ill try that scorp
[18:32] <noformat> hello all.  I'm trying to do a kubuntu install here, but the installer won't let me proceed without formatting various partitons.  They've gotta data on them that can't go anywhere else.  Is there any way I can get around this?
[18:32] <ScorpKing> !tab > Jahromeo
[18:32] <arcticpenguin380> will kubuntu ever have the requirments of vista?
[18:33] <surgy> arcticpenguin380: if it ever does you will never see me again
[18:34] <Jahromeo> ScorpKing:  OOO thats nice thanks
[18:34] <ScorpKing> :D thants better.
[18:34] <ScorpKing> that's*
[18:35] <Jahromeo> i must say im not liking kubuntu
[18:35] <Jahromeo> my firefox wont even run
[18:35] <Jahromeo> it doesnt do anything hourglass turns, and then it closes
[18:36] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: seems like you have a few not-so-nice problems on that box :P
[18:37] <sigma_1234> Jahromeo we meet again :)
[18:37] <Jahromeo> yeah im not liking this 7.10 :P
[18:37] <Jahromeo> too buggy for me
[18:37] <Jahromeo> op
[18:37] <Jahromeo> jerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ firefox
[18:37] <Jahromeo> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:37] <Jahromeo> if i get one more frikking segmentation error i am going to have the biggest hissy
[18:37] <sigma_1234> Yeah those things should work without tinking. kubuntu is prob not liking your hardware
[18:37] <Jahromeo> where are firefox settings stored
[18:38] <Jahromeo> its a new machine quad core etc
[18:38] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: ~/.mozilla
[18:38] <Jahromeo> how do i fix a segmenation fault in firefox
[18:38] <Jahromeo> are there more .bins i can del
[18:38] <sigma_1234> where did you buy it from? not sahara i hope
[18:39] <Jahromeo> i put it together myself
[18:39] <Jahromeo> cpu sahara - hdd rectron - mboard rectron - keyboard/mouse rectron - case pcmall.co.za - dvd - rectron - ram rectron
[18:39] <Jahromeo> mostly a rectron machine
[18:39] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: don't know -- some people have had success restoring the default preferences, as in "mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozbackup"
[18:39] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: gnome or KDE?
[18:40] <Jahromeo> kde
[18:40] <Jahromeo> kubunmtu
[18:40] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: yeah i get that sometimes myself and use KDE --- have yet to determine why sometimes firefox hangs and sometimes it doesnt
[18:40] <Jahromeo> so how do i fix?
[18:41] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: you can try the above -- but it's not necessarily a fix
[18:41] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: if it doesn't work, you move the directory back
[18:41] <Jahromeo> do i just alt+f2 and run that?
[18:41] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: yes
[18:42] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/57393
[18:42] <sigma_1234> that sahara stuff is dodgy. is the proc on a one or 3year warranty?
[18:42] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: if it doesn't work, then: "mv ~/mozbackup ~/.mozilla"
[18:42] <Jahromeo> only my cpu is sahara scorpion
[18:43] <Jahromeo> still no luck
[18:43] <Jahromeo> *sigma sorry
[18:44] <Jahromeo> willl it be ok to stay with this till new versionn comes out and would upgrade fix all these issues im having hopefully??
[18:44] <Jahromeo> bandwidth is expensive here and to keep reinstalling and dling 200-300 mb is pissing me off no end
[18:44] <Jahromeo> its becoming cheaper to run a windows box even if you have to pay licencing
[18:44] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: do a memtest. i don't think your programs is the problem. it could be something with the kernel or memory management but i'm no pro, just guessing
[18:45] <Jahromeo> thing is scorpion pclinuix was fine
[18:45] <prince_jammys> but it's mozilla that's segfaulting, not apt
[18:45] <Jahromeo> and its same pc
[18:45] <sigma_1234> something hardware wise sounds realy off on ur pc
[18:45] <Jahromeo> i know but apt-get was segmenting too and i fix that by del .bin files for it, is there no such option for ffox?
[18:46] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: oooh there's more to it than i thought
[18:46] <sigma_1234> you shouldnt have to delete anything
[18:46] <BluesKaj> !flashissues
[18:46]  * ScorpKing agrees..
[18:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[18:47] <Jahromeo> is there a repair option if i reinstall kubuntu?
[18:47] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: deleting bin files is playing with fire -- things can become a mess
[18:47] <Jahromeo> thing is i dont want to lose my 200-300mb of upgrades ive already done
[18:47] <Jahromeo> meh its only way to use apt-get
[18:47] <Jahromeo> my frontend like synaptic/adept corrupt them
[18:47] <Jahromeo> so i no longer use the frontend
[18:48] <Jahromeo> is there anyway to reinstall kubuntu without losing all my updates? - like a repair install?
[18:48] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: take a look at apt-move and apt-cacher. with that you can save all your upgrades
[18:48] <sigma_1234> disable updates. your bandwidth is too pricey
[18:48] <Jahromeo> yeah sigma this is my point
[18:48] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: yes, look into those packages -- also check out package aptoncd
[18:48] <prince_jammys> !info aptoncd | Jahromeo
[18:48] <ubotu> jahromeo: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.97-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 135 kB, installed size 1024 kB
[18:49] <Jahromeo> if i keep getting hit with nonsense like this im going to use windows - its becoming cheaper even with licencing
[18:49] <ScorpKing> aptoncd doesn't support kubuntu. the gnome downloads will be big to get it installed
[18:49] <Jahromeo> man is there no repair option like windows - press r - and it reinstall but keeps settings/files
[18:50] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: that's why i keep /home on a second partition. ;)
[18:50] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: i have never had that "repair" option repair anything for me ,lol
[18:50] <Jahromeo> im not worried about personal info there is none on here - but my dls like skype , ffox etc
[18:50] <Jahromeo> will those be overwritten?
[18:51] <Jahromeo> bandwidth is like 10 dollars a gig here
[18:51] <Jahromeo> its expensive i cant sit redownloading things again
[18:51] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: if you reinstall kubuntu, yes they will be overwritten
[18:51] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: all of the settings is in /home/you/.<somehiddenfile>
[18:51] <prince_jammys> Jahromeo: you can cache the stuff and not have to redownload it
[18:52] <Jahromeo> snore im tempted to wait till april
[18:52] <Jahromeo> and have the upgrade fix these bugs
[18:52] <Jahromeo> i cant format its too expensive
[18:52] <ScorpKing> Jahromeo: i pay $46 for 1GB btw ;)
[18:54] <sigma_1234> what country scorpking?
[18:54] <ScorpKing> 1GB 3G in South Africa
[18:55] <sigma_1234> thats different though. its not a fixed line so should cost more
[18:56]  * BluesKaj is beginning to wonder if it's too much to ask to have konqueror actually work on flash sites , or is this some kind of purst punishment on ppl who like media on websites ?
[18:56] <ScorpKing> sigma_1234: true, but i move around a lot
[18:56] <sigma_1234> but dam you actually get 3g. i live in metro durban and i dont!
[18:56] <ScorpKing> hehe
[18:57] <sigma_1234> works for me blueskaj. but i uninstalled it to save bandwith
[18:57] <BluesKaj> back to FF I guess , even the US repos don't seem to have the right flash plugin for konq
[18:58] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: konq use the ff plugin on my box and it works great
[18:58] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: did you eventually buy a eeepc?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> weird , it won't go on my setup
[18:58] <llutz> BluesKaj: works here too
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234 » nah... I really really want one though, but I don't have enough money. I don't want to go to college broke :)
[18:58] <BluesKaj> what , repos are you using ScorpKing ?
[18:59] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: http://za.bla
[18:59] <ubuntu_> hello
[19:00] <ScorpKing> !hi
[19:00] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[19:00] <ubuntu_> I have Kubuntu 7.10 install problems
[19:00] <ubuntu_> How are you
[19:00] <sigma_1234> lol it just got released in sa. surprisingly the same price as in the usa. but thats probably because asus has a local office here
[19:00] <ScorpKing> sigma_1234: join offtopic plz
[19:01] <ScorpKing> !ask | ubuntu_
[19:01] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:01] <BluesKaj> llutz, what sources are you using ?
[19:01] <llutz> BluesKaj: de.archive..
[19:01] <ubuntu_> ok thanks
[19:01] <Jahromeo> scorpion im also in ZA :P
[19:01] <Jahromeo> cpt
[19:02] <Jahromeo> and 70 rand a gig man, im going to have us capped before long dling updates
[19:02] <BluesKaj> odd , i changed mine to US , cuz i suspected that the canadian ones weren't up to date
[19:02] <llutz> BluesKaj: 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12.2 0 from    http://de.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/multiverse Packages
[19:02] <ScorpKing> :D nice. there is #ubuntu-za btw
[19:02] <ubuntu_> ASUS CUSL2 512MB 1GHZ   boots desktop Live CD     but install on 30 GB HD seems to hang up
[19:02] <ubuntu_> also QTPart hangs when I try to use that
[19:03] <sigma_1234> ubuntu-za
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_ » are you trying to do dual-boot?
[19:04] <ubuntu_> no
[19:05] <ubuntu_> wipe out whole HD and install just kubuntu using most automated (simple) method possible
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_ » is it crashing on formatting or partitioning?
[19:05] <ubuntu_> I think so
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> which one.
[19:06] <ubuntu_> I got to copying files once (around 66%)
[19:06] <nosrednaekim> so it got past formatting.
[19:06] <ubuntu_> but mostly freezes whole desktop around 5%
[19:06] <ubuntu_> I tried several different HD
[19:06] <nosrednaekim> sounds like a bad CD.
[19:06] <ubuntu_> I ran CD verify and it passed though
[19:06] <ubuntu_> should I run again?
[19:07] <ubuntu_> can I verify from the 7.10 liveCD desktup
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I think there is  checkCD on the grub boot menu
[19:07] <ubuntu_> I used that one before
[19:11] <nosrednaekim> hum.
[19:11] <ubuntu_> ok I'll check the CD once more
[19:11] <ubuntu_> be back in a little bit
[19:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_ » can't really say what the problem is then...
[19:12] <nosrednaekim> ok
[19:12] <ubuntu_> ok
[19:12] <ubuntu_> \leave
[19:12] <ubuntu_> doh
[19:12] <ubuntu_> allways get the wrong slash
[19:12] <nosrednaekim> :)
[19:19] <vlt> Hello. Since the recent big update for kde programs (example line from /var/log/aptitude: [UPGRADE] konqueror-nsplugins 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27.3 -> 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27.4) nspluginviewer crashes every time. Any known solution?
[19:20] <nosrednaekim> thats not what I would call a big update..... but when does it crash?
[19:20] <Jahromeo>  what is 7.10 - gutsy or feisty?
[19:20] <hydrogen> gutsy
[19:21] <Jahromeo> thanks
[19:21] <hydrogen> lsb_release -c
[19:21] <BluesKaj> nope , back to FF , no flash joy in konq
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> ha, i'm exactly the opposite, flash works in konq, but not in ff
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> and I prefer FF
[19:22] <hydrogen> flash doesn't work.
[19:22] <emilsedgh> BluesKaj: FF is wrong, thats Fx :D
[19:22] <hydrogen> ff doesn't work.
[19:22] <hydrogen> use opera
[19:22] <hydrogen> and enjoy life
[19:22] <BluesKaj> FF works fine , konq doesn't with flash i mean
[19:23] <BluesKaj> opera is too busy
[19:26] <vlt> nosrednaekim: Everytime I open a web page containing some element that requires nspluginviewer.
[19:27] <vlt> nosrednaekim: ... I get a crash report window about nspluginviewer.
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> I think the latest version of flash no longer works with konqueror.....
[19:28] <BluesKaj> welcome to the nspluginviewer cpuhog app
[19:29] <vlt> BluesKaj: Any solution?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> vlt, it seems to depend on your sources.list repositories, whether they have the right version flashplugin-nonfree that works with konqueror . I'm using a US repos source but I haven't been able to get youtube videos to work in konq :(
[19:35] <BluesKaj> so it seems to be a hit and miss thing, vlt
[19:38] <vlt> BluesKaj: I use "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse" ... dapper-updates and dapper-security
[19:42] <X9nLinux1> Hi everybody.  Running Dapper on an old iMac.  Using a second monitor plugged into the extra port.  Just did a fresh install.  The monitor has set up with wrong resolution.  Looks like 640x480.  Went into System settings => Monitors.  Won't reset right. How do I fix?
[19:42] <galbatorix> zut, c'est anglais ici ?
[19:42] <galbatorix> je suis francais :$
[19:42] <galbatorix> I am french
[19:43] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[19:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:43] <galbatorix> merci
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> X9nLinux1 » so you want a higher res?
[19:44] <X9nLinux1> yes!
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> X9nLinux1 » does the hardware support it?
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> ie, the graphics card
[19:45] <X9nLinux1> 870 x 1152 iirc
[19:45] <X9nLinux1> yes it does... it WAS running previously
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> ok,so you are effectively trying to run dual-head?
[19:45] <X9nLinux1> JUST discovered something on side of the settings display panel..
[19:45] <X9nLinux1> yes except for that has not yet worked...
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> with different res's on each monitor?
[19:46] <X9nLinux1> so far only the secondary monitor is showing with first one going black
[19:46] <X9nLinux1> They are probably different, not 100% positive though.
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> it may be going black because you are exceeding its res/refresh.
[19:47] <nosrednaekim> but at 640x480, I doubt it ;)
[19:47] <X9nLinux1> it is happy during startup, but then goes black when things finish starting up and only second monitor shows
[19:48] <djdarkman> how can I force reload the alsa?
[19:48] <djdarkman> I can`t seem to find it in ubuntu
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> well, thats because X starts and has a totally different monitor settings than the kernel framebuffer
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman » /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[19:48] <ScorpKing> djdarkman: it's alsamixer
[19:49] <djdarkman> it doesn`t work
[19:49] <nosrednaekim> !dualhead | X9nLinux1
[19:49] <ubotu> X9nLinux1: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[19:50] <X9nLinux1> am trying a restart on it right now... lets see how that goes.  Will go check your link in just a minute.
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> X9nLinux1 » I really have no clue how to do dual-head, or anything more complicated than a simple mirrored projector set-up
[19:50] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: in knoppix I typed /etc/init.d/alsa force-restart ,and it realy restarted alsa in ubuntu it just doesn`t work
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman » whats the problem?
[19:51] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: skype is the problem it messes up some type of recording buffer, voice only works for half an hour
[19:51] <X9nLinux1> well, so far I've not found anything good on dual heads on Mac, ... but not done fishing by a long shot
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> oh... skype <_<
[19:51] <djdarkman> I have to restart my computer for skype to work again
[19:52] <djdarkman> probably something with my soundcard driver
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> possibly... did you try restarting sound in system-settings?
[19:52] <hanswerner> auch jemand hier der deutsch spricht?
[19:54] <djdarkman> no such option
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> well, change some value, change it back, and hit apply
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> !de
[19:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:55] <arcticpenguin380> !ext3
[19:55] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[19:56] <BluesKaj> any canucks around ?
[19:56] <NickPresta> hey BluesKaj
[19:57] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, hey ...i need a canadian sources.list , if you have one ...forgot to backup
[19:57] <X9nLinux1> nosrednaekim : Is there any such thing as some 'vision impared' setting that could be triggered innadvertently somehow?  The resolution is not acting like simply wrong size screen.  Its more like moving around with a magnifying glass all over the place.
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> X9nLinux1 » that usually happens when you are sending the monitor a higher res than is supported
[19:58] <theo__> Qui parle francais ici ?
[19:58] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, I actually don't have a canadian mirror sources.list. I have http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repos though.
[19:58] <NickPresta> !fr | theo__
[19:58] <ubotu> theo__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:58] <theo__> ah merci
[19:59] <theo__> euh thanks
[20:00] <X9nLinux1> nosrednaekim : That can't be the case because the exact same hardware had the same version and software a few weeks ago and only had hard drive changed out.
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> odd.
[20:01] <X9nLinux1> it appears that the Display 'Configuration' might end up resolving the problem once I find the right one.  Still playing for a bit.
[20:03] <X9nLinux1> its odd because it wouldn't log in right at first... but now that it did, its allowing changes fine.
[20:07] <X9nLinux1> nosrednaekim: Is there a way to correctly identify the monitor in the software?  (Kind of like Apple's System Profiler)
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> X9nLinux1 » yeah I think thats in the last tab.....
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> its in the "hardware" tab
[20:09] <X9nLinux1> Last tab (Dapper) is power saving... third tab is the one to choose monitor, but it doesn't tell what I have.   "Autodetect" gives the 'main' monitor that is less important right now... so can't get it to figure out how to fix itself
[20:10] <X9nLinux1> yeah, that's where I'm at
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> X9nLinux1 » you have to be in admin mode
[20:10] <X9nLinux1> did that too
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> X9nLinux1 » and here in gutsy, its has a choice for promary or secondary
[20:11] <X9nLinux1> It 'might' insist that both monitor choice and resolution choice be changed at same time.  Still playing
[20:12] <brenda> buenas
[20:12] <brenda> aluien me puede contestar unas pequeñas preguntas :P
[20:12] <biovore> !es
[20:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:12] <brenda> Tx
[20:16] <kroot> hello
[20:17] <NickPresta> hey, kroot
, where you from? I'm from Ukraine
[20:21] <X9nLinux1> nosrednaekim: Monitor keeps 'snapping'.  Is that a normal symptom of wrong refresh rate? (the monitor itself should be fine)
[20:22] <sfire> X9nLinux1: you may want to just manually modify the xorg.conf file
[20:22] <sfire> I've found the GUI tools to be totally and completely useless
[20:24] <X9nLinux1> wouldn't even have a clue how to do that.  Hey, might have something finally starting to behave at least better.  Will know in a minute
[20:25] <X9nLinux1> ok, dropped to 1024 x 768 resolution and it not only works, mirroring also is working at the moment
[20:27] <X9nLinux1> before on 870 x 1152 (something like that) is was showing just the secondary monitor nicely.  Right now it would be good to get the primary to be able to be turned off/on independent of the second one.
[20:27] <IIVQ> hello
[20:28] <IIVQ> Question: I have a vanilla kubuntu installation here, with the flash-nonfree package installed
[20:28] <IIVQ> works fine in firefox, but konqueror crashes on it...
[20:28] <IIVQ> any ideas?
[20:28] <X9nLinux1> In "Size ==> Orientation, the screen only offers choice of one screen.
[20:28] <sfire> IIVQ: are you using gutsy?
[20:28] <IIVQ> sfire: 7.10
[20:28] <draik> How are we coming along with 8.04?
[20:28] <IIVQ> is that gutsy?
[20:29] <sfire> IIVQ: yea.. I couldn't get it to work at all with konqueror in gutsy
[20:29] <IIVQ> weird
[20:29] <sfire> draik: hopefully better than 7.10 ... lol
[20:30] <sfire> I regret ever upgrading my desktop to 7.10
[20:30] <IIVQ> because I actually hate firefox ...
[20:30] <draik> sfire: :) We all expect as much
[20:31] <sfire> 7.10 was like 50 steps backwards
[20:35] <IIVQ> hmmm
[20:35] <IIVQ> damn
[20:36] <IIVQ> I hoped (k)ubuntu would be a step forward from gentoo, which I've been running for 4 years
[20:36] <IIVQ> and that installation is getting a little ... volatile
[20:36] <sfire> IIVQ: not 7.10... 7.10 is about 5 yrs behind its time
[20:36] <IIVQ> actually I haven't dared to update the gentoo
[20:37] <selckin> more bashing, less facts
[20:37] <IIVQ> sfire, should I wait for the next release then?
[20:37] <IIVQ> or go 7.04?
[20:37] <sfire> IIVQ: 7.04 is wonderful
[20:37] <sfire> I would give 7.04 a try
[20:37] <sfire>  that is what I'm running on this laptop and everything "just works"
[20:38] <IIVQ> sfire: is there a way to restart just X (or just KDE), not the whole computer?
[20:38] <sfire> ctrl + alt + backspace
[20:38] <selckin> logout first
[20:39] <IIVQ> ok
[20:39] <IIVQ> AAARGHHHHHHHH
[20:39] <IIVQ> how do I disable this @(&#$# strigi desktop search?
[20:39] <selckin> uninstall the package
[20:40] <IIVQ> hmmm. I think kubuntu is a little bit like vista
[20:40] <IIVQ> it makes me go "how do I disable this"
[20:40] <IIVQ> while all other installations made me go "how do I enable this"?
[20:40] <selckin> learn how to use your software and go cry in a corner
[20:41] <NickPresta> selckin, be nice.
[20:44] <belor1> Whats the name of the KDE program that allows you to setup a small network server
[20:45] <chris710> how can i download Code:Blocks?
[20:45] <sfire> belor1: what kinda service?
[20:46] <sd32> how do I block im's konversation?
[20:46] <belor1> a small server that allows you to share files across the network its a program built into KDE. sfire
[20:46] <ubuntu-dron> Hello everyone. Have an HDA-Intel issue. The official howto doesnt work. In fact, there is something wrong with the hda-intel kernell module. He said "unsupported symbols found". How do I fix it?
[20:48] <fiendskull9> Im trying to run adept after a fresh install update, and its saying another apt-get or aptitude process is already running. and ive thouroughly checked with ps -ef and its not
[20:49] <fiendskull9> wait nvm, dpkg --configure -a did the trick
[20:50] <NickPresta> fiendskull9, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:50] <fiendskull9> NickPresta: thanks but i already fixed it :P
[20:51] <NickPresta> hey sub[t]rnl
[20:51] <sub[t]rnl> NickPresta➜ yo yo
[20:54] <fiendskull9> i have a 22" widescreen monitor that supports 1680x1050. Ive just finished installing nvidia drivers and i can only go up to 1400x1050. Would the best way to fix this be in the x config, or is there a better way to do it in kubuntu?
[20:55] <sd32> run the monitorwith the  plug and play driver
[20:56] <fiendskull9> sd32: the pnp driver didnt show 1680x1050 either
[20:56] <sd32> ohh sory
[20:56] <strom> hello
[20:56] <NickPresta> fiendskull9, using `nvidia-settings`, you can't select 1680x1050
[20:57] <sd32> are you using the restricted drivers?
[20:57] <fiendskull9> sd32: yes
[20:57] <fiendskull9> NickPresta: nvidia-settings doesnt show 1680x1050 either
[20:58] <fiendskull9> im perfectly fine with tweaking the x config (i come from a long line of gentoo and slackware :P), but i dont know if thatll make kubuntu crap on me
[20:58] <simon12> weird, I installed compiz but I dont see it anywhere..
[20:58] <simon12> !compiz-fusion
[20:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:58] <NickPresta> fiendskull9, and you're using the 'nvidia' driver and it is in use (and in your xorg.conf)?
[20:59] <fiendskull9> NickPresta: yessir, restricted drivers panel shows inuse, and driver "nvidia" in my xorg.conf
[20:59] <sd32> does the card support that resoloution?
[20:59] <fiendskull9> sd32: 8600gt, and it works in vista and xp
[21:00] <sd32> that answers that
[21:00] <fiendskull9> and on my gentoo install
[21:00] <fiendskull9> so its not the hardware
[21:00] <NickPresta> fiendskull9, try manually adding it to xorg.conf.
[21:00] <fiendskull9> like i said, im fine with adding the mode line, im just asking if ubuntu will trip over itself with a user edited xorgconf
[21:00] <fiendskull9> ok NickPresta, thank you
[21:01] <fiendskull9> brb
[21:04] <vlt> Any idea how to fix the nspluginviewer crashing since last update problem?
[21:07] <vlt> Can I revert the update?
[21:08] <simon12> lol, can anyone please tell me how to start compiz? I have installed it..
[21:08] <sub[t]rnl> compiz --replace
[21:09] <simon12> Thats what I've tried. The screen goes black for a second, and then nothing.....
[21:10] <simon12> absolutly nothing.
[21:10] <sub[t]rnl> run ccsm to pick which plugins you would like and to familiarize yourself with the keybindings
[21:11] <simon12> "
[21:11] <simon12> The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[21:11] <simon12> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:11] <simon12> bash: ccsm: command not found
[21:12] <jpatrick> !paste > simon12
[21:12] <jpatrick> simon12: as it says: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:12] <simon12> but I did install compiz using:
[21:12] <simon12> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[21:12] <simon12> compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common
[21:12] <jpatrick> hmm
[21:13] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ run the apt-get again that jp told you, see if it installs or says its already current
[21:14] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ from the way you pasted it, I'm guessing the last three packages are not installed
[21:14] <simon12> ok, as soon as Ive solved the problem I have right now. lol Im using kubuntu 7.10, but a minute ago it told me to upgrade to 7.10..which I did...and now its stuck on "Installing the upgrades" 0%
[21:15] <simon12> sub[t]rnl> it was in one line originaly
[21:15] <simon12> but I'll try again as soon as the upgrade has finnished lol...(it wont)
[21:16] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ how long has it been hanging?
[21:16] <simon12> 5 minutes I suppose
[21:16] <simon12> it says "Applying changes"
[21:16] <simon12> stuck on 0%
[21:16] <valery> народ нужна помошь. необходимо при запуске xinit из консоли сделать так, чтобы не появлялся курсор мыши. Закоментил в xorg.conf все что связано с мышью, но при запуске xinit курсор всеравно есть и отвечает на действия мыши. Куда копать??
[21:17] <simon12> I dont understand why its upgrading to 7.10 when I allready have 7.10 lol
[21:17] <vlt> !ru | valery
[21:17] <ubotu> valery: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:17] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ known bug. sudo killall adept_manager;sudo dpkg --configure -a;sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get update
[21:17] <simon12> ok
[21:17] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ then try to install the remaining packages for compiz
[21:17] <Liono> how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?  log all unlocks for a full month.  (i want to force lock screen. the screen saver has an option but for idle time. i want to force lock. no matter what.)
[21:17] <Liono> the auth.log dont shows successfull unlock events. it only shows unsuccesful ones
[21:17] <Liono> using kubuntu. PAM only logs (in auth.log) the unsuccesful tries. i need the  sucsecfuls ones onlY)
[21:18] <simon12> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[21:18] <simon12> compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common
[21:18] <simon12> oops, forget about that paste
[21:18] <simon12> here we go: adept_manager: no process killed
[21:20] <MrAgrid> Good night everybody does someone know why every software i execute next reboot autostart from itself ?
[21:20] <sub[t]rnl> MrAgrid➜ system settings -> advanced -> session
[21:21] <vlt> Any idea how to fix the nspluginviewer crashing since last update problem?
[21:21] <vlt> Can I revert the update?
[21:21] <sub[t]rnl> vlt➜ i'm not sure
[21:21] <ScorpKing> MrAgrid: you have save session selected in session management
[21:22] <MrAgrid> i have Restore previous session selected
[21:22] <MrAgrid> do i have to change it
[21:22] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[21:23] <MrAgrid> to Restore manually saved session or Start with an empty session
[21:24] <sub[t]rnl> to whichever you want.
[21:25] <MrAgrid> i think if i select Start with an empty session compiz, Superkaramba and all the softwares i want them to start will not start ?
[21:25] <ScorpKing> MrAgrid: start an empty session will start a new session everytime you log in. if you want apps to start at login link it in .kde/Autostart/
[21:25] <arcticpenguin380> !firewall
[21:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[21:25] <simon12> sub[t]rnl: I tries to run compiz install again but got this: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:25] <MrAgrid> Scopking: ok i get it
[21:26] <simon12> *tried
[21:26] <snarkster> what can I use to convert avi to mpg
[21:26] <snarkster> !convert
[21:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <snarkster> !mpg
[21:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:26] <MrJoey> You might be able to use mplayer or ffmpeg
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ did you do it?
[21:27] <simon12> do you mean "sudo killall adept_manager;sudo dpkg --configure -a;sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get update"? if so yes.
[21:28] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ i mean, when it said "you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." did you do it?
[21:28] <MrAgrid> i have an other question is there a way to make just compiz autostart instead of running kwin and then replace it by compiz
[21:28] <simon12> ah.... no...
[21:28] <sub[t]rnl> :p
[21:28] <ScorpKing> !autostart | MrAgrid
[21:29] <ubotu> MrAgrid: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[21:29] <sub[t]rnl> MrAgrid➜ echo 'export KDEWM="compiz --replace"' >> .bashrc
[21:30] <simon12> ok done, and installation seems to be ok..lets see
[21:30] <sub[t]rnl> MrAgrid➜ if you not comfortable with that, use the autostart dir that Scorpking showed you
[21:30] <vlt> sub[t]rnl: Where to look how to revert the nspluginviewer update?
[21:30] <sub[t]rnl> !flash | vlt (check the troubleshooting link)
[21:30] <ubotu> vlt (check the troubleshooting link): To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
 thats what im talking about thank you
[21:31] <MrAgrid> thank you everybody for the help and good night
[21:31] <ScorpKing> MrAgrid: echo "compiz --replace" > .kde/Autostart
[21:32] <MrAgrid> thank you too <ScorpKing>
[21:32] <ScorpKing> yw :D
[21:32] <sub[t]rnl> ScorpKing➜ (that doesn't work)
[21:33] <ScorpKing> sub[t]rnl: ah right
[21:33] <ScorpKing> MrAgrid: echo "compiz --replace" > .kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh
[21:33] <ScorpKing> that's better i hope :)
[21:34] <sub[t]rnl> yes sir
[21:34] <ScorpKing> thanks sub[t]rnl. hehe
[21:34] <Liono> how can i make all apt, synaptic and adept package managing systems to use 2 proxies simultaneiously  to download packages?
[21:34] <MrAgrid> ok thanks for the help
[21:34] <sub[t]rnl> Liono➜ hrm, you can export a proxy in your ~/.bashrc that apt will use
[21:35] <sub[t]rnl> Liono➜ export http_proxy=http://yourproxyaddress:proxyport in your ~/.bashrc or edit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[21:36] <sub[t]rnl> Liono➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto (proxy section at the bottom)
[21:38] <Liono> sub[t]rnl ok. but could i run 2 proxies simultaneously?
[21:39] <sub[t]rnl> dun know
[21:40] <sub[t]rnl> tcp/udp would have to be sent from the proxy your connecting too, then redirected to another proxy
[21:41] <Liono> ok
[21:41] <Liono> sub[t]rnl you know my logging problem?
[21:41] <fiendskull9> why is kubuntu using a psychotic amount of ram?
[21:41] <sub[t]rnl> Liono➜ what are you trying to log again?
[21:42] <Liono> how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?  log all unlocks for a full month.  (i want to force lock screen. the screen saver has an option but for idle time. i want to force lock. no matter what.)
[21:42] <sub[t]rnl> fiendskull9➜ free -m (pay attention to the buffer/cache line)  Linux buffers and caches as much ram as it can.  Trust me its a feature.
[21:42] <Liono> sub[t]rnl ^
[21:42] <Liono> the auth.log dont shows successfull unlock events. it only shows unsuccesful ones
[21:42] <Liono> using kubuntu. PAM only logs (in auth.log) the unsuccesful tries. i need the  sucsecfuls ones onlY)
[21:43] <fiendskull9> sub[t]rnl: well my gentoo and slack installs rarely use above 1gb with alot running
[21:43] <snarkster> Im trying to find a convert program that some one here suggested.  I think they called it convert it but I cant find that.
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> fiendskull9➜ run free -m and look at the buffer/cache for an idea of how much is "really" being used
[21:43] <fiendskull9> ah 1.4gb
[21:43] <fiendskull9> cached
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> Liono➜ auth.log should catch any sudo based, if not you can always grep the users ~/.bash_history
[21:44] <fiendskull9> so when i need ram itll just throw something out of cache not being used?
[21:44] <vlt> sub[t]rnl: Thank you. I enabled -backports in sources.list. Now a huge amount of packages are marked as to be updated. How can I avoid this?
[21:44] <sub[t]rnl> fiendskull9➜ if you need more ram than is available, linux frees up whats in its buffer, yes
[21:44] <fiendskull9> you mean kubuntu :P
[21:45] <simon12> I ran "compiz --replace" but then all window decoartions disappeared and I could no longer use my keyboard :\
[21:45] <fiendskull9> like i said my gentoo and slack installs dont cache this much
[21:45] <sub[t]rnl> fiendskull9➜ thats a shame then :/
[21:45] <fiendskull9> didnt affect me that much really :P
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ make sure you have emerald installed, and do emerald --replace (its the window decorator)
[21:46] <fiendskull9> but thank you kind sir sub[t]rnl :)
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> fiendskull9➜ anytime
[21:46] <simon12> !compiz
[21:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:47] <simon12> how do I check if emerald is installed? it shoudl be
[21:47] <simon12> (I wasnt able to run emerald -- replace)
[21:47] <NickPresta> simon12, dpkg -l | grep emerald
[21:47] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ try to apt-get it again, or run dpkg -L packagename
[21:47] <NickPresta> check for something that says "ii emerlad"
[21:48] <NickPresta> and then use `dpkg -L emerald` as sub[t]rnl said to see where it is installed and such
[21:48] <simon12> ii  emerald                                    0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1             Decorator for compiz-fusion
[21:48] <simon12> ii  libemeraldengine0                          0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1             Decoration engines for compiz-fusion
[21:48] <NickPresta> it is installed.
[21:49] <vlt> I want to install ONE package from -backports. I enabled it in sources.list. Now a huge amount of packages are marked as to be updated. How can I avoid this?
[21:50] <simon12> bah, now I ran "emerald --replace" and then "compiz --replace" and my decoration disappeared again. This time I can still use my keyboard tho. woho!
[21:50] <sub[t]rnl> vlt➜ enable the repository, update, then install the one package?
[21:50] <NickPresta> vlt, perhaps: sudo apt-get install package=version. sudo apt-get install nautilus=2.2.4-1 for example.
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> simon12➜ run emerald --replace after compiz --replace, if the decorations are missing
[21:51] <snarkster> does anyone know how to tell ffmpg to convert avi to mpeg or is there a gui
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> ffmpeg -i movie.avi newmovie.mpg
[21:52] <sub[t]rnl> though ffmpeg has a lot more to offer when encoding, check the man pages for more options
[21:55] <surgy> anyone know any 2d tile editing programs for devloping tile sets and tile maps for tile based rpg developement?
[21:57] <simon12> I cant run emerald --replace after compiz, because as soon as I run compiz --replace my keyboard dies
[21:58] <biovore> surgy: I think the best you could do is use gimp..  Its not plainly obvious that you can do that kind of stuff with it..  So might want  keep it as a last resort kind of thing.
[21:58] <NickPresta> simon12, compiz --replace && emerald --replace
[21:58] <BluesKaj> surgy, try the new gimpshop app
[21:59] <sub[t]rnl> wonder why emerald isn't loading for him like it should though..
[21:59]  * sub[t]rnl sucks on his teeth
[21:59] <surgy> blueskaj googling now, ive never heard of that
[22:00] <prince_jammys> !gimpshop | surgy
[22:00] <vlt> sub[t]rnl: What happens to updates of this package when I disable the repo after installing the package?
[22:00] <ubotu> surgy: gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[22:01] <biovore> it dosn't get updated anymore..
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> vlt➜ ^^
[22:01] <prince_jammys> surgy i think there's a package that does exactly what you want but i don't remember what it's called ....
[22:01] <surgy> BluesKaj: i dont think acting like photo shop will work for me
[22:01] <Arwen> rather than use a UI hack on GIMP... why not use real Photoshop
[22:01] <Arwen> ?
[22:01] <NickPresta> Arwen, because Photoshop costs several hundred dollars
[22:01] <Arwen> on an entirely other note, is there a good KDE image editor?
[22:02] <NickPresta> Arwen, Krita is decent.
[22:02] <prince_jammys> Arwen: krita
[22:02] <Arwen> NickPresta, and a UI hack feels just as cheap as it is
[22:02] <vlt> So what is the reccommended way to define which packages from -backport to use and which not?
[22:02] <Arwen> vlt, in /etc/apt/preferences with pins
[22:02] <vlt> Arwen: Thank you, I'll check this ...
[22:03] <NickPresta> vlt, http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html for a quick overview. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[22:06] <simon12> hmmm, in the emerald settings, there's a list of themes. Ive chosen one of them, now how the heck do I apply it? the only button around is Quit.
[22:07] <NickPresta> simon12, you should just click on it. The changes should happen on the fly
[22:08] <simon12> in the list it says it uses the engine Oxygen, maybe I have to install that?
[22:08] <ahmos> hi there is a hidden folder ,how i can make it un hidden plz?
[22:08] <vlt> NickPresta: Thank you. What do I use instead of "stable", "unstable" and "testing" from your example on Kubuntu?
[22:09] <vlt> ahmos: Hidden files begin with a ".", so rename it.
[22:10] <simon12> hmmm, I just ran "compiz --replace && emerald --replace" and my decoration disappeared again.
[22:10] <ahmos> yes ,thank you vlt
[22:10] <simon12> I think I will be able to use my keyboard as long as I keep the curson in this text field lol
[22:10] <NickPresta> vlt, check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-3b5c1549058b0cbabeccab98556844dac6c0f93b  There is info for pinning and installing single packages. So `sudo apt-get install -t gutsy-backports amarok` for example.
[22:10] <simon12> *cursor
[22:13] <vlt> NickPresta: Aah, ok, there's a default value of 500, so I only need to set -backports lower. Thank you.
[22:17] <illriginal> can anyone recommend a good flash producing program? One similar to Adobe Flash?
[22:18] <simon12> ffs. I ran "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24" and then "compiz --replace && emerald --replace" but I still loose the decor and keyboard
[22:29] <simon12> when I ran "compiz" in the console it said I was missing xgl or something like that. WHats that?
[22:29] <simon12> !xgl
[22:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:31] <K`zan> Hi Folks, just set up a NFS export off the server for my roomie here.  Her UID/GID on the server is different from the one on her machine, how can I map that.  tried setting the anonuid and anongid to her account on the server, should that be her account on here machines uid and gid?
[22:34] <conorn> Can anybody help me with startup programs please? Is there a GUI option in Kubuntu (7.10)? I've tried command line, to no avail :9
[22:36] <NickPresta> conorn,  To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local
[22:37] <BluesKaj> conorn, or you can also, alt+F2 , kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart , then add the app you'd like to autostart by dragging it into the file page
[22:37] <BluesKaj> and saving
[22:37] <conorn> ok, thank you both
[22:43] <blizzzek> gn8
[22:44] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, i like your tip about "bum"
[22:44] <ecue> hey everyone
[22:44] <BluesKaj> !hi ecue
[22:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi ecue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:44] <ecue> Need help. So many problems!!!
[22:44] <BluesKaj> oops
[22:45] <ecue> i have a ati radeon 9800 card. Running kubuntu 7.10 gutsy. I'm trying to get my dual monitor to start working
[22:45] <ecue> can anyone help?
[22:46] <BluesKaj> !dual heads
[22:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual heads - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> !xinerama
[22:46] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[22:47] <BluesKaj> !DualHead
[22:47] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[22:49] <_Angelus_> guys
[22:49] <_Angelus_> somebody knows a linux application that can convert videos to 3gp format?
[22:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> !find 3gp
[22:50] <ubotu> Package/file 3gp does not exist in gutsy
[22:50] <Arwen> _Angelus_, 3GP = castrated MP4
[22:50] <Arwen> !find MP4Box
[22:51] <ubotu> Package/file mp4box does not exist in gutsy
[22:51] <ConstyXIV> does gutsy have the WebKit konqueror?
[22:51] <_Angelus_> Arwen: wrong , there are 2 types of 3GP :)
[22:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> the kind that sucks and the kind that really really sucks?
[22:52] <_Angelus_> Arwen: there is the h263 and the mpeg4 types of 3gp
[22:52] <Arwen> _Angelus_, I'm assuming you don't mean "Nokia 7650 Video Recorder Video File"?
[22:52] <Arwen> otherwise there's only one kind of 3gp
[22:52] <shuman> hi there everyone :)
[22:53] <Arwen> either way, you just need a video encoder and mp4box from gpac
[22:53] <_Angelus_> Arwen: there are those 2 i named , and i need the h263 format of 3gp file
[22:53] <Arwen> um... again, 3gp is just a container. It only has one format.
[22:53] <Arwen> you need mp4box and a video encoder
[22:53] <Arwen> perhaps MEncoder or ffmpeg
[22:53] <simon12> hmmmm I think something is wrong with my emerald. nothing happens when I run emerlad from the console. and when I select a theme in the emerald manager nothing happens. Not to mention that my decoration totaly disappears when I run compiz. Anyone?
[22:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> simon12: emerald --replace
[22:54] <shuman> can anyone please tell me how are multimedia keys mapped in kubuntu? I'm curious how it's done...
[22:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> and if that doesn't work, #compiz-fusion would probably work better
[22:55] <ConstyXIV> i know konqueror has a adblock-like, but does it have anything like noscript?
[22:56] <Enissay> i cant access to my exernal hard disk.... but i can access as root... and when i try to copy a file from there it says that the file doesn't exist!!!!! any help...
[22:56] <conorn> Do I have to get Mplayer do stream Divx?
[22:56] <conorn> Do I have to get Mplayer *to stream Divx?
[22:56] <Arwen> conorn, in order to do what? And MPlayer can't stream anything.
[22:56] <conorn> Stream Divx from eg. Stage6
[22:57] <Arwen> um... playing streams is not referred to as "streaming"
[22:57] <Arwen> for future reference
[22:57] <Arwen> and no you don't, you just need a player that can handle AVI with XviD and MP3
[22:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> preferred: vlc
[22:57] <conorn> yes, like VLC player
[22:57] <Arwen> preferred: mplayer
[22:57]  * Arwen hates VLC. Especially on Kubuntu.
[22:57] <conorn> sorry, I'll elaborate a bit
[22:58] <shuman> so nobody knows how it works?
[22:58] <Arwen> VLC doesn't randomly crash when using the open dialog for anyone else?
[23:00] <conorn> I need to "play a stream" on  web page (stage6) using VLC, preferably.
[23:00] <Arwen> um... open -> stream -> enter URL
[23:00] <ecue> can someone point me in the dual head monitor set up site again
[23:01] <sourcemaker> Is it possible to synchronize kcalender with lotus notes?
[23:01] <conorn> yes, ok, but imbedded in a web page....ir. VLc plugin?
[23:01] <conorn> yes, ok, but imbedded in a web page....ie. VLC plugin?
[23:01] <sourcemaker> And can I synchronize my blackberry with linux??
[23:02] <NickPresta> ecue, Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[23:04] <Arwen> conorn, why would you ever want video inside a browser? And no, that doesn't work with anything at all last I checked.
[23:04] <Arwen> and last I checked, VLC plugin doesn't do anything right
[23:05] <conorn> Arwen, because it worked no problems in Ubuntu with Mplayer, and I've just switched to Kubuntu and am just curious.
[23:07] <conorn> It's things like these are important IMO, aimple thinga you qould expect to just......WORK!
[23:07] <conorn> BTw...I'm only a bit drunk
[23:07] <Arwen> well, actually, my opinion is that no browser should ever do anything besides show web pages
[23:07] <Arwen> so...
[23:09] <conorn> well, you are obviously a good spokesperson for the integration of Linux into society......
[23:10] <Arwen> please, the very core UNIX philosophy is "one tool to do one job"
[23:10] <persen_> hello, i've tracked my insane large font sizes when upgrading from feisty to gutsy to this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/151311
[23:10] <persen_> Where can i find info if a patch is made and howto install it?
[23:10] <conorn> c'mon, get with the times, stop being so idealistic
[23:11] <Arwen> um... no?
[23:11] <Arwen> anyway, if mplayer-plugin does it for you, go use it
[23:11] <conorn> helpful.
[23:13] <ecue> thank you
[23:13] <ecue> i've tried a million ways
[23:13] <ecue> nothing's working for me
[23:13] <conorn> let's all have one thing do a certain task, because it works, and not try to solve problems by sticking to what you know to be safe
[23:20] <ecue> still nothing
[23:20] <ecue> i think i'm as dumb as a child
[23:28] <shaffy> i hope someone can help me with my problem.  does anyone know of a way to reinstall the network/connection manager without have your linux box connected to the internet?  can i just download the necessary packages to a flash drive and install them from there?
[23:29] <sfire> yep... you can download the packages and all dependancies
[23:29] <sfire> just tell it to install it and see what it is going to want... then go download them
[23:29] <Arwen> shaffy, yes. Just make sure you download all of them.
[23:31] <shaffy> sfire and arwen:  is there anyway to connect my box to the net without a manager?
[23:31] <Arwen> yeah
[23:31] <Arwen> ifconfig
[23:31] <shaffy> will that work for wireless, too?
[23:31] <Arwen> probably not
[23:32] <shaffy> okay, so i'll just plug it in,
[23:32] <shaffy> and is there any special commands for ifconfig?
[23:32] <Arwen> <ifconfig up/down interface> :-P
[23:32] <Arwen> probably "ifconfig up eth0"
[23:33] <sfire> shaffy: wireless is iwconfig
[23:34] <shaffy> okay, so with ifconfig, if i plug in my ethernet cable, and input "ifconfig up eth0" it should allow me to use the net?
[23:34] <sfire> 95% of the time yes
[23:34] <shaffy> hehe okay.
[23:35] <sfire> unless the router doesn't have DHCP or something
[23:35] <shaffy> thanks hehe.  i'll try it.  brb
[23:38] <persen_> What distro might be better for desktop that kubuntu ? Kubuntu just have this insanely large list of bugs and quirks that im willing to try something else.
[23:38] <shaffie> sfire and Arwen:  the only "connection" i'm getting is "lo"  no "eth0" exists
[23:38] <shaffie> does it need to be plugged in at bootup perhaps?
[23:39] <Arwen> hmm, I dunno, never tried these things
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> shaffie » you may have to say "ifconfig eth0 up"
[23:40] <Arwen> hmm, I knew I was doing something wrong
[23:40] <shaffie> nosrednaekim:  the problem is, when i just type ifconfig, it only lists "lo"     eth0 is not even present
[23:41] <Arwen> that's because it's not up
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> shaffie » right... because its not up.
[23:41] <shaffie> oh
[23:41] <shaffie> hehe
[23:41] <shaffie> okay, well i will try that right now then
[23:43] <ubuntu_> I have error line 15, can anyone help me?
[23:44] <ubuntu_> occurs on bootup with dual boot, xp/kubuntu
[23:44] <ubuntu_> seems to be problem with grub
[23:44] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_➜ you'll need to fix your boot/grub/menu.lst to point to the right partition
[23:45] <ubuntu_> how can I do that?
[23:45] <ubuntu_> without reloading
[23:45] <sub[t]rnl> anyone remember the edit key on the grub loader?
[23:45] <sub[t]rnl> is it "e"?
[23:45] <ubuntu_> I'm running live cd disk right now
[23:45] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_➜ run sudo fdisk -l
[23:46] <sub[t]rnl> and show me which partition / is located
[23:46] <shaffie> nosrednaekim and Arwen:  okay, good news is that "ifconfig eth0 up" worked.  bad news is, the internet still doesn't work.  any ideas?
[23:46] <Arwen> *shrug*, can you ping your router?
[23:47] <shaffie> Arwen:  how do i do that?
[23:47] <ubuntu_> linux partition loaded on sda2
[23:47] <Arwen> ping [IP address]
[23:47] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu_➜ k, the grub equivalent would be (hd0,3).  So when the grub screen comes up, hit "e" and enter that
[23:47] <shaffie> it says the network is unreachable
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> shaffie » now that its up, run "sudo dhclient eth0"
[23:47] <Arwen> hmm, what does "ifconfig" print?
[23:48] <Arwen> or... never mind
[23:48] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, yes , you may have to put a # (or comment) the line Hiddenmenu in the boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:48] <shaffie> i could tell you arwen, it'll just take me some time to print it out
[23:48] <ubuntu_> what does e do?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> e  = edit
[23:49] <ubuntu_> is there anything I can do while running live cd?
[23:50] <Arwen> ubuntu_, you can run the apps on the CD
[23:50] <ubuntu_> how do you run it on live cd
[23:50] <Stoffer> is there any way I can make kwallet save my password and not ask for it every time I log on?
[23:50] <Arwen> that's not KWallet's job
[23:50] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_ » you can chroot in....
[23:51] <Arwen> you want X11 autologin, somewhere under the users control panel
[23:51] <Arwen> Stoffer, ^^
[23:51] <Stoffer> Arwen, what if I disable kwallet, because only the network manager uses it
[23:51] <shaffie> can anyone help me to connect my linux box to the internet via ethernet cable and ifconfig?  (i do not have a network manager installed and i can't install one w/o the internet)
[23:51] <Arwen> Stoffer, won't affect anything (other than network manager)
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> shaffie » did you try running dhclient?
[23:51] <ubuntu_> can I use qpart, delete partition and reload kubuntu
[23:51] <Stoffer> Arwen, will the network manager save the password itself?
[23:51] <Dr_willis> with a wired connection, you should jjust be able to plug it in. and when ya boot up - it defsults to dhcp
[23:52] <Arwen> Stoffer, yeah, just not encrypted
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_ » thats not the best way....
[23:52] <ubuntu_> I would like to reload fresh install
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> !grub | ubuntu_
[23:52] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:53] <Stoffer> ok, question 2:  is there an irc app that automatically connects to a preset server and channel, and identifies your nick with nickserv?  I can't seem to get xchat to do that
[23:53] <Dr_willis> Stoffer,  xchat can do that.
[23:53] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, an alternative is the super grub disk , a very handy boot disk for repairing grub and mbr
[23:54] <Stoffer> ok well then I"m just stupid then, lemme look again
[23:54] <Dr_willis> edit the server listing, click the auto connect checkbox. enter the channels to join, enter nickserv password
[23:55] <Stoffer> ok lets try it
[23:56] <Stoffer> sweet
[23:56] <Stoffer> Dr_willis, thanks
[23:56] <Stoffer> I've been wanting to do that for years, lol
[23:57] <BluesKaj> BBL, tv with wifey
[23:58] <Dr_willis> Stoffer,  its been in there for ages. :)
[23:59] <Stoffer> yeah, I guess I never thought to hit the "edit" button