[08:15] <igorzolnikov> Hi! I want to buy Sony VGN FZ21. It is good a choice for Ubuntu?
[14:44] <ianbsparrow> hello
[14:45] <ianbsparrow> I'm searching info about how the function keys work on ubuntu.
[14:45] <ianbsparrow> which is the application which manages the events raised by the function keys?
[14:45] <realz`> how they work or how to configure them?
[14:46] <ianbsparrow> how do they work, thus: how do the event pass from the function key press towards the appropriate device
[14:47] <ianbsparrow> and which are the actors of the process.
[14:48] <realz`> what is it that you are tryint to do?
[14:48] <ianbsparrow> i'm trying to use them. from the brightness, towards the lock session
[14:49] <realz`>  from the brightness, towards the lock session...didnt get you!
[14:50] <ianbsparrow> i mean: no function key works, on my keyboard. so I would like to have them working.
[14:51] <realz`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[14:52] <ianbsparrow> k, that's a good entry point.
[15:09] <ianbsparrow> mh, I've got another question: some keys are not shown in xev, when I press them. but they're however binded to some event, because they raise some windows (ie. the brightness keys)
[15:09] <ianbsparrow> ( or the suspend to RAM/disk ones)
[15:09] <ianbsparrow> going to a real console, I cannot see any message from the atkbd.c code. so I don't know which symbol is linked to each key.
[15:09] <ianbsparrow> I also suppose that they're currently managed by some actor, but I cannot guess who.
[15:10] <realz`> check dmesg
[15:11] <realz`> u say that xev doesnt read your keypress?
[15:11] <ianbsparrow> no luck. it doesnt print any info. yeah, that's it. no trace on xev
[15:11] <ianbsparrow> no trace at all.
[15:11] <ianbsparrow> it's like I haven't had that key.
[15:13] <realz`> ask me...i got about 5 keys like that :p
[15:14] <ianbsparrow> we are lucky, indeed. :-)
[15:14] <realz`> what is your laptop brand model & version of ubuntu?
[15:14] <realz`> is it updated to the date?
[15:15] <ianbsparrow> I have discovered another thing. some fn+key shortcuts are mapped onto existing keys on the keyboard
[15:16] <ianbsparrow> 7.10
[15:16] <ianbsparrow> toshiba L40
[15:16] <realz`> so what's ur normal keys to adjust lets say contrast?
[15:21] <ianbsparrow> I have no contrast keys. only the brightness ones. but in that case, they're mapped  to a keysim.
[15:21] <ianbsparrow> instead, I haven't the keys from F2 to F5
[15:22] <ianbsparrow> and F8,F9
[15:22] <realz`> what happens if u press fn+f6?
[15:22] <ianbsparrow> a small box appears, with a sun inside :-) gnome-brightness-applet, I guess
[15:22] <realz`> but it adjusted ur brightness ?
[15:23] <ianbsparrow> oh, I forgot F1, which coincides with Super_L. no, the gnome-brightness-applet is dumb, apparently
[15:23] <ianbsparrow> (it doesn't propagate the info to the underlaying software layer)
[15:23] <realz`> so Fn+F1 doesnt perfor scren lock?
[15:24] <realz`> s/perfor/perform
[15:24] <ianbsparrow> no. at least, until I do not map Super_L to screen lock
[15:24] <ianbsparrow> :-)
[15:24] <realz`> ok
[15:25] <realz`> sorry i got somewhat lost here...what exactly is not working now on your laptop?
[15:26] <ianbsparrow> all the function keys. except for the brightness ones, which are detected by the gnome-brightness-applet. but they do not effectively change the brightness
[15:27] <ianbsparrow> well, re, I'm going. thank you for the help, and have a good luck for your ones. :-)
[15:27] <realz`> i've given up on them! :P
[15:27] <realz`> anyway cheers