[00:03] kbrooks, can we help you? [00:10] i suspect he's AFK [00:14] LjL nalioth, is the list acceptable for values of [00:14] acceptable [00:15] parse error on line 0 [00:16] !modes [00:16] There are many different channel and user modes on !freenode. Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [00:19] LjL, are there more kbooks here? [00:20] no one that i'm not used to seeing here [00:23] ok [01:24] !info openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us [01:24] Package openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us does not exist in gutsy [01:24] !info openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us hardy [01:24] openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us (source: hyphen): US Enlish hyphenation patterns for OpenOffice.org. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3-5 (hardy), package size 31 kB, installed size 124 kB [03:25] /mode +b *!*@host83-220-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it!#ubuntu-it-ops [03:25] what's wrong in that? === jdong is now known as PmDematagoda === PmDematagoda is now known as jdong [05:06] I swear that was totally consensual and benign, no matter how dodgy it looked [05:09] jdong, BaconBits [05:09] jdong, on #ubuntu [05:09] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (BaconBits) [05:10] no0tic: I've got no powers [05:10] ah, sorry [05:11] 'sall right :) [05:11] elkbuntu: what's the difference between what I did, and you did? [05:11] nickrud, you didn't kick him out, she did [05:11] nickrud, you didnt remove him from the channel [05:12] nickrud, the trolls get joy from seeing people lol at them [05:12] they dont deserve it [05:12] elkbuntu: ah, kick ban then next time? [05:12] nickrud, please [05:12] elkbuntu: learning mode. Thanks [05:12] no prob [05:12] nickrud, with a ban he simply can't talk to the channel [05:13] no0tic: ah. Somehow I existed on irc for years without learning the differences. [05:13] nickrud, or rejoin it if removed/kicked, obviously [05:13] no0tic: /remove I understood, but assumed ban included removal. [05:14] well, I can go to bed now, have a good... day/night === mc44_ is now known as mc44 [09:00] mc44, what is your local temp today? [09:00] woops wrong channel [10:28] pretty sure tants39 = solidnail et al [10:29] I don't know that name - summary? [10:30] random useless stupid questions constantly [10:32] Same ISP, nonsense ident. Prolly. [10:39] they've been plaguing the debian channels lately... different nick each time, same pointless style of drivel [10:41] How odd. Seems like an unrewarding way of trolling. [10:41] * tonyyarusso gulps [10:42] First user registration from a Sun Microsystems employee on this web site I'm doing. eep! [10:44] elkbuntu: lastest from #ubuntu-es http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56338/ [10:45] jpatrick: thankfully enough, that's a support channel, so it's easy to build the case for getting rid of them. [10:45] (We had the same line in -offtopic) [10:45] tonyyarusso: he was also in #kubuntu twice [11:04] is this the same guy as romeo1 and jarule2 ? [11:05] jussi01: yep, seems so [11:16] jpatrick, he's totally a network troll. if you see something matching him (nonsensical questions, dictionary word ident) you have permission to kb at will [11:18] elkbuntu: yes, I've warned the -es guys [11:20] ** knowbot [n=thomas@53515E61.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] not a bot [11:24] tell him he needs a better nick, or he'll get confused for one alot [11:25] "tanx for teh tip" [11:26] * elkbuntu chuckles at the guys in +1 [11:33] I kicked ethan961 to ##fix_your_connection [11:40] hello [11:41] goodbye [11:42] * tonyyarusso watches impending lawsuit from the Beatles approaching [11:47] hmm? [11:52] thoh [11:58] hi Myrtti! [12:11] Seveas? it goes 1, 2 then 3. Plz note the number 2 [12:12] Toma-, auopi had the 2 [12:12] Oh, thanks for including someone elses actions for my own [12:13] Toma-, if we had to give every person in a multi-participant conversation 3 strikes each, we'd need to be paid to run these channels [12:13] if you're offering however, by all means [12:13] is that an offer to be come an op? :) [12:14] becuase bth, alot of stuff gets thrown at me that against the guidliens and the ops tend to let it fly [12:14] no, the opposite [12:14] Toma-, no, it's an offer for you to give us money [12:14] haha [12:14] id pay for a fairer system, sure. [12:15] Toma-, there's a few dozen ops to pay. when do we start? [12:15] mind you, i'd be giving up a $42k/yr salary to do it, and i'm sure seveas is on a much higher pay rate than i am [12:15] well let me get a list of the people that op by double standards and then we'll see how many people ill pay [12:16] elkbuntu, dunno, what's an AU$ in € these days? [12:16] Toma-, the only double standard is the inability to monitor the channels at every minute in every day [12:16] Seveas, 1.7euro to the aussie dollar [12:16] oh yeh? [12:16] let me dig up some logs where someone was calling me the c word in offtopic [12:16] elkbuntu, yeah, i'm a bit higher up then, not much though [12:16] Myrtti: hello!! :D [12:16] Toma-: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc/+members [12:17] Toma-: and your logs show an active op ignoring it? [12:17] sure do. [12:17] then you really should post those logs [12:17] Toma-, i believe it happened, no need for logs. i also know however that an op can be in a completely different place in a space of 2 minutes, and not have the time to read the past 10 lines of scrollback just to make sure everyone behaved while they were gone [12:20] yeh im over it. [12:20] figured he wouldnt have a comeback for that [12:21] I would have guessed that the op was there 5-10 mins before/after it happened and that constitutes them ignoring it to him [12:23] stdin, i'll guarantee it. i dont think these kids know how much work it is running a namespace [12:23] kids? [12:24] I don't think they get the meaning of "volunteer" either [12:24] jpatrick, toma is early 20s [12:24] stdin, no, of course they dont [12:24] elkbuntu: I'm a late younger than that [12:25] jpatrick, who said you were included with 'kids' anyway? [12:25] :) [12:25] we know *you* "get it" [12:25] you're one of the 'stupid sucker' group [12:29] jpatrick called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic (feelingbetter - he's back!!!) [12:29] hmm? feelingbetter is in #u-offtopic as well [12:29] to be deleted? [12:29] Seveas: he's that network troll [12:30] say hostname [12:30] see* [12:30] yeah, that's him [12:30] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56338/ [12:31] not really trolling in #ubuntu-offtopic yet but I'm keeping an eye on him [12:31] Seveas, people have been whinging about him in #freenode for days, and i think i saw someone say he's a kline evader... but staff havent managed to do anything about him [12:31] Seveas: see #k-ot [12:31] "06:37 < feelingbetter> jpatrick fucking snitch" [12:31] Seveas, trust us, he's a troll. just says nonsensical bull over [12:31] jpatrick, I'm not in there :) [12:33] seems Tm_T is the only op [12:36] Seveas, i believe i banned the troll from offtopic a few days ago, actally [12:38] achilles hmm wouldn't people from here stalk me if i move? [12:38] feelingbetter, only if they behave like ban-avoiding IRC trolls [12:38] just letting him know we're not stupid ;) [12:40] elkbuntu: kicked from #k-ot [12:40] mc44 kicked him out of #u-ot [12:40] Seveas, did i mention that Toma- is in my loco... i'm now getting the third degree on how he played a minor part in the discussion yet is at the fullest punishment [12:41] he was the one not stopping after being warned [12:41] he thought he was asking what he'd done wrong [12:42] feeling better is not I take it [12:42] * Seveas juggles ompauls words into an order that makes sense [12:43] nope, no such order found [12:44] Seveas, feelingbetter is not feeling better atm if venting a silly spleen was the thinking it had [12:44] Seveas, i.e. the banned party [12:44] ah! [12:44] sense found [12:45] I thought you were practicing your yoda skills and failed :) [12:45] Seveas, this is not the practice you are looking for! [12:45] * ompaul likes that one! === mc44_ is now known as mc44 [13:12] stdin: is that not the same host as the bot we had hanging in here for ages? [13:13] jussi01: that was the same host as feelingbetter [13:29] 1 new message in away log feelingbetter(n=block@CPE00012e15cab6-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)] you are just evil [13:45] jpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (marshall) [13:45] he's back AGAIN [13:45] jpatrick, who is? [13:45] ompaul: troll, see above [13:46] noted - lets watch shall we [13:46] it's a different host this time CPE0016d3248d68-CM000f9f57a01c [13:47] stdin: reset router? [13:47] and they only in #ubuntu [13:48] hmm [13:52] ok, false alarm [13:52] but you never know [14:04] tjanssen [n=tjanssen@CPE001c10c04247-CM00159a4026c4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com joined #k [14:05] :) [14:13] hi Gary [14:18] and suddenly I feel way too old to IRC [14:19] Myrtti: That makes two of us [14:19] and way too old actually for anything [14:20] I'm making coffee and I just realized I poured the milk away [14:21] That is not old, just not awake... Old is putting the coffee pot back into the fridge [14:22] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (vimalv) [14:23] Jack_Sparrow: no, that's still not being awake [14:23] i was putting the milk box into the microwave and the cup into the fridge [14:23] Morning. That last update took out all video of all types...mpg, flash all of them, nothing I tried brought them back.. [14:24] Ended up restoring from backup [14:24] so I guess I'm either going to dress up finally and get some milk or drink my coffee black [14:24] either feels like a bad idea [14:25] Got any ice cream in the fridge? How about packets of hot cocoa... [14:25] Myrtti: well, just remember that it's clothes onto yourself and coffee on the fire [14:25] not clothes on fire and pour coffee on yourself [14:28] no ice cream... === GazzaK is now known as Gary [14:46] #u-ot something [14:46] someone* [15:17] Hi [15:17] What's up? [15:17] i ask you... and "foo", if he wants to turn up [15:18] I don't see how a /query is up for discussion on #ubuntu-ops [15:18] LjL: Yes? [15:19] foo: what's the deal with you and gouki? [15:19] Kinder_Surprise, Bomfunk: i didn't ask for spectator [15:19] s [15:19] Предложи тему для разговора. [15:19] !ru | Kinder_Surprise [15:19] Kinder_Surprise: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [15:19] так точно [15:19] врешь [15:19] LjL: it's a bot [15:19] gouki: http://planet.ubuntu-uk.org/rss20.xml [15:19] LjL: Do a /lastlog gouki in #ubuntu and you'll see the few lines of discussion. What I pasted was what he sent me in PM [15:19] jpatrick: which? [15:19] Thank jpatrick; popey gave it to me [15:19] LjL: Kinder_Surprise [n=BoomBot@unaffiliated/Bomfunk/bot/kindersurprise [15:20] Bomfunk? [15:20] Bomfunk: hi [15:20] gouki, seveas seemed to agree that you were offtopic. don't think think that foo telling you the same didn't deserve such a harsh response? [15:21] hi. [15:21] hi, can we help you? [15:21] hm, no [15:21] LjL: Seveas told and we talked on PM. Now, if an OP tells me something about channel rules, VERY WELL. What I don't want, is some random guy telling me to leave. [15:21] LjL: thanks. [15:21] Bomfunk: why did you join your bot here...? [15:22] mistake [15:22] gouki: he didn't tell you to leave as far as i can see... just to take your request elsewhere. [15:22] and all users are entitled to request that channel rules are respected [15:22] that's not the operators' prerogative [15:23] Very well. And how come a private conversation ends up for discussion on -ops? [15:24] gouki: because it was pasted in #ubuntu [15:24] which, foo, is not the correct thing to do, by the way [15:24] 15:21:45 < gouki> LjL: Seveas told and we talked on PM. Now, if an OP tells me something about channel rules, VERY WELL. What I don't want, is some random guy telling me to leave. [15:24] i thought we were all equal on freenode :) [15:25] LjL: Apologies, I wasn't aware of this channel. Now I know, won't happen again [15:25] LjL: So if someone comes to me and trash talks me ... As long as he posts A PRIVATE CONVERSATION on a ubuntu- public channel, it will end up for discussion? [15:25] meaning: if someone tells you you broke the rules, it doesn't matter whether they are OP, random guy or whatever, if they are right and you [15:25] ..are wrong, that's what matters [15:25] s/he/me [15:26] But very well. I believe I understood the message. [15:26] Sorry to you, foo, for the harsh talk. [15:26] Sorry to LjL for the trouble. [15:26] there is a fine line between what concerns us and what doesn't. a private conversation usually doesn't concern us. foo, in my opinion, you should have settled your disagreements in private with gouki, not involve channels. and gouki, PM or not, i thought better of you thank answering someone in such a mood, to be very blunt, and then stating here that you'd accept that from an op but be abusive to someone else [15:27] gouki: No worries [15:28] Very well LjL; Everyone has their days, and it's hard for me to believe you're smiley and happy all of them. [15:28] But that CAN'T be an excuse [15:28] So, like I said, sorry LjL for the trouble [15:28] And ONCE AGAIN, sorry for the harsh talk foo. Take care mate. [15:28] * foo tips hat, np [15:29] gouki: no, i definitely have my bad days. i'm glad you understand your reactions may be due to being on a bad day [15:29] thank you both for being civil now. [15:29] No problem. Thank you for sorting things out. [15:29] Seveas, LjL and foo, take care. [15:31] Looks like you've been having a fun time. [15:32] LjL: Thanks for sorting that. I've been an op for #mandrake/#mandriva back in the day and I must say, we didn't have this kind of organization. Good stuff [15:34] foo: it can be a burden :) [15:34] LjL: Hah, I can only imagine :) [15:34] #ubuntu is huge... it needs this kind of structure [15:35] and not just #ubuntu gets the works [15:35] ah, I see [15:36] #kubuntu, and mostly internation channels in #ubuntu-irc [15:44] ah, I see [15:46] foo, i need to point you to the channel topic [15:46] LjL: Not a problem, catch you later :) Thanks again - [17:48] Hey guys i'm not sure why, but i got redirected here when i tried to join ubuntu. possibly previous owner of this host was an op? [17:50] hmm [17:50] "previous owner of this host was an op" [17:50] hi Parabola, how can we help? [17:50] fuck if i know [17:50] i still cant join ubuntu [17:51] !ohmy | Parabola [17:51] Parabola: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [17:51] .... [17:51] anyway [17:51] is there a particular reason why i would be getting redirected to here? [17:51] is +l set on the main chan or somthing? [17:51] your ident contains a "bad word" (take off the "Pu") [17:52] pu is a badword? [17:52] Parabola: after it [17:52] oh [17:52] jesus you guys are worse than disney. [17:52] it says pushit [17:52] not pu shit [17:53] alright, well thanks for your help [17:53] Parabola [n=Pushit@cpe-75-185-51-21.columbus.res.rr.com [17:53] yeah i see why not [17:53] now* [17:53] its a TOOL reference. but yeah ill just stay out o fthe chan [17:53] change it and come back [17:53] thanks buddy [18:11] romeo1 [18:11] stdin: he's back [18:16] #kde folks warned [18:39] How evil would it be to remove all editing functions from ubotu and instead require people to use the webinterface for that? [18:41] Seveas, it would be better than we are atm with our errorz [18:42] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (Neko_Guy) [19:43] Seveas: as long as it's not on Launchpad..... [19:43] jdong, :) [19:44] jdong: we must put it on alioth [19:44] jpatrick: or make people file factoid requests via the sourceforge bug tracker [19:45] ha that was soooo mean :D [19:49] !jdong [19:49] jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! [19:49] appropriate. [19:50] :) [19:53] moo [20:13] I don't clearly see a statement in the topic that #ubuntu is publicly logged at irseek. Please add it. [20:15] eh, it's publically logged already anyway, what difference does it make [20:17] mc44, I feel it makes a difference. [20:17] in what way? [20:17] !logs [20:17] Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats » [20:18] one place 100 places [20:18] Alllllll right then... [20:18] Thank you, bye. [20:18] strange boy [20:38] If you get upset about channels being logged, you probably shouldn't use IRC... [20:41] tonyyarusso, I added a couple of lines to the wiki section IRC [20:42] just for the paranoid [20:43] ompaul: "And yes, they are watching you!"? [20:43] Seeker`, almost [20:44] Please be aware that when you are on IRC you may be being logged by bots other than these, sometimes without permission of channel operators. Please keep in mind that you are in a public place and even if it is not said explicitly others may be logging their conversations which include yours. [20:45] may be being.... [20:45] Seeker`, in my terms that equates to "They are watching you, and you don't know who they are" [20:45] jdong, thanks [20:45] am I the only one who feels such is nearly common sense and expected? [20:46] jdong: yes, you are the sole voice of reason in a crazy world :( [20:46] watch out for the echelon folks [20:46] haha that would be a sure sign of the apocalypse. [20:46] trust no one [20:46] Hi Echelon! [20:46] jdong, don't say the A word [20:46] * Seeker` wonders if they read this [20:46] Seeker`, who cares [20:47] Why so sad? [20:47] nuclear bomb biological weapons united states aeroplane smallpox [20:47] it doesn't bother me, it would just be interesting to know just how much they do read [20:47] Seeker`, from a stats perspective way more than is useful [20:47] * ompaul rofls [20:48] Myrtti, na, the trigger word is "Shazbad, Nano!" [20:48] dang now look what I gone and done [20:48] Myrtti: You should add the string "how to make" for better effect. [20:49] al qaeda to add some spice [20:49] tonyyarusso, you did [20:49] maoists [20:49] Myrtti, na that is not spice, the red hot chilli peppers are :) [20:49] Myrtti, again not red [20:49] North Korea! [20:49] Kim Jong-Il! [20:49] Iran [20:49] ding ding ding [20:49] and a packet of crisps please love [20:50] hmm [20:50] two pints of larger [20:50] beer too, dear? [20:50] and a packet of crisps please love [20:50] sure puppet [20:50] I am the puppet of RMS or maybe not [20:51] we've got shephards pie today if you don't like your crisps [20:51] Myrtti, lovely, I'll have some of that too, with red sauce, pepper, and salt. [20:52] Myrtti, yeah and can I have two pints of larger and a packet of crisps please love [20:52] hehe [20:52] stupid song I can't get it out of my head now [20:54] I just can't stop watching Imogen Heap's Hide and Seek in youtube [20:54] it's getting eerie [20:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxI_ouC8ldI [20:55] that will cure you [22:13] from #u-devel: Pronny_ [n=Pronny@videos.pornbox.fr] has quit [SendQ exceeded] [22:17] nalioth: message for you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56361/ [22:18] jpatrick: i've already actioned that (have you looked?) [22:18] * nalioth sees most everything that has his nick on it [22:19] ah, thanks [23:25] I've just declined "fdd"s application to ubuntu-irc. [23:27] crap... pressed approve [23:28] * nalioth sends Pricey to his room without supper for generating excess spam [23:28] That's the third time I've done that. [23:28] Sorry nalioth.