| txwikinger | Is it still missing? | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| * dasKreech dubs Jucato stuffPimper! | 00:05 | |
| nixternal | cheguevara: did you install the qt-gtk app from kde-apps to get the nicer looking firefox? | 00:36 |
| cheguevara | yep nixternal | 00:37 |
| cheguevara | gtk-kde4 that is | 00:37 |
| nixternal | OK, I am going to grab it and package it then, unless you already have it packaged | 00:38 |
| cheguevara | no just been playing around with it | 00:39 |
| cheguevara | latest version is quiet good | 00:39 |
| cheguevara | gonna need 2 packages though | 00:39 |
| cheguevara | for the theme and the app | 00:39 |
| nixternal | ahh, there is a theme too? does it all come in the "source code" package? or do you have to do 2 downloads? | 00:40 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 00:40 |
| cheguevara | 2 downloads | 00:40 |
| nixternal | can't even package it if I wanted...don't feel like dealing with dev bs he created | 00:40 |
| nixternal | Qt4 GTK Style I take it | 00:41 |
| nixternal | hrmm, so you use that theme and not the Oxygen them then I take it? | 00:41 |
| cheguevara | yeah i believe using that theme it will use whatever kde 4 theme you have set | 00:42 |
| nixternal | gotcha | 00:42 |
| cheguevara | latest version allows installation to /usr/share/themes as opposed to ~/.themes | 00:43 |
| cheguevara | needs gtk deps as well though :P | 00:44 |
| * dasKreech bounces on nixternal | 00:49 | |
| nixternal | this app is very poorly done | 00:50 |
| nixternal | I move the qt4 directory to where it should, but his silly apps doesn't see it | 00:51 |
| Jucato | dasKreech: :P | 00:55 |
| Jucato | hi nixternal | 00:55 |
| dasKreech | stuffPimper!! :) | 00:55 |
| nixternal | wasabi Jucato | 00:55 |
| * dasKreech hugs Jucato | 00:55 | |
| nixternal | cheguevara: wth am I doing wrong here? | 00:55 |
| dasKreech | Adobe wan kenboi | 00:55 |
| dasKreech | http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/10643/1201271267/Obi.jpg | 00:55 |
| nixternal | I installed the gtk crap as needed, moved the qt4/ directory to /usr/share/themes | 00:55 |
| Jucato | heh... my online handle used to be obijuan :) | 00:55 |
| dasKreech | Ha ha ha ha | 00:56 |
| dasKreech | I love it | 00:56 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 00:56 |
| * Jucato wonders wth dholbach has on his wall... | 00:57 | |
| nixternal | got it, what a pita though | 01:00 |
| nixternal | time to write that one up | 01:00 |
| Jucato | :) | 01:00 |
| Jucato | that's why you were silent :) | 01:00 |
| nixternal | wth | 01:00 |
| nixternal | it worked one time | 01:00 |
| nixternal | what a pos | 01:00 |
| nixternal | and now it works again | 01:00 |
| nixternal | weird | 01:00 |
| Jucato | lovely :) | 01:01 |
| dasKreech | I need to write a pos | 01:02 |
| nixternal | bah, that gtk-qt4 thing is garbage | 01:03 |
| nixternal | works 50% of the time with FF3, doesn't work with Gimp | 01:03 |
| dasKreech | Hobbsee!! :0 | 01:34 |
| Jucato | Hobb *cough* see!!!! | 01:34 |
| dasKreech | Jucato: no contentless ping for you :) | 01:35 |
| Jucato | :P | 01:35 |
| dasKreech | KDE 4.2 is going to rock :) | 01:36 |
| Jucato | KDE 4.x is going to rock | 01:36 |
| Jucato | oh, and plasma team is going to backport new stuff from 4.x to 4.0.x (although we seem to have done that already...) | 01:37 |
| dasKreech | I hope we have a media blowout with 4.2 :) | 01:37 |
| dasKreech | Riddell: You are on the KDE e.V. marketing ? | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | greetings | 01:40 |
| * dasKreech bows | 01:40 | |
| Hobbsee | :) | 01:42 |
| * Jucato curtsies | 01:43 | |
| Jucato | er... that's not right... | 01:43 |
| dasKreech | Looks about right | 01:43 |
| dasKreech | need more dip in the hip though | 01:44 |
| * Jucato whacks dasKreech | 01:44 | |
| dasKreech | heehee :) | 01:44 |
| dasKreech | What app are you going to work on Jucato ? | 01:44 |
| * Jucato is still intrigued by dholbach's picture... | 01:44 | |
| Jucato | dasKreech: no idea yet... :D | 01:44 |
| Jucato | I'm still trying to get accepted into school... that's my #1 focus this week (deadline's on the 29th) | 01:45 |
| Jucato | I have some top secret projects in mind though... top secret because I don't even know them yet myself :) | 01:48 |
| vorian | evening! | 01:48 |
| dasKreech | Like nixternal :) | 01:49 |
| cheguevara | nixternal, works all the time for me with ff3 | 01:52 |
| cheguevara | nixternal, does it work fine in /usr/share/themes 'cuase i havent actually tried it | 01:53 |
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| nixternal | cheguevara: I have it in /usr/share/themes and it seems to work only with FF and nothing else Gtk | 03:18 |
| vorian | nixternal: are you talking about gtk-kde4? | 03:20 |
| vorian | and good evening :) | 03:21 |
| nixternal | ya | 03:22 |
| ScottK | Is it a safe assumption that we didn't upload a kdebase 3.5.9 that would FTBFS on purpose and it'd be a good thing if I can fix it? | 03:28 |
| nosrednaekim | FTBFS? | 03:28 |
| vorian | failed to build from source | 03:29 |
| ScottK | Yes. (Failed To Build From Source in case you were asking what the acronym was) | 03:29 |
| vorian | or like i like to call them | 03:29 |
| vorian | failed to build for Steve | 03:29 |
| vorian | :P | 03:29 |
| nosrednaekim | ah.. thanks :) | 03:29 |
| vorian | ScottK: would you mind telling me if i did this FF exception correctly? | 03:30 |
| ScottK | Go ahead | 03:30 |
| vorian | mm | 03:30 |
| vorian | finding | 03:30 |
| vorian | bug 192812 | 03:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 192812 in ktorrent-kde4 "[FF exception] New upstream release ktorrent-kde4 3.0.0 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192812 | 03:30 |
| ScottK | vorian: Just from the title of the bug, I'm guessing it's OK, but I'd like to know what jdong thinks about it. | 03:31 |
| vorian | thanks ScottK | 03:32 |
| ScottK | vorian: Looks good. Get a upcheck from jdong and I'll vote for it. | 03:32 |
| vorian | schweet | 03:32 |
| vorian | :) | 03:33 |
| vorian | thanks for taking a peek at it | 03:33 |
| * ryanakca growls at Drupal | 03:33 | |
| nixternal | when is archive.ubuntu.com going to start working again? | 03:34 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: its working here... | 03:36 |
| ryanakca | Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release.gpg | 03:36 |
| ryanakca | Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Translation-en_CA | 03:36 |
| ryanakca | etc, etc, etc? | 03:36 |
| nixternal | still not working here...isn't picking up any of the updates, it just flies through the sudo apt-get update process | 03:37 |
| nixternal | this also happens for a couple of others as well | 03:37 |
| ryanakca | hmm... dunno :S | 03:37 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: you ever worked with Drupal before? | 03:37 |
| nixternal | yes | 03:38 |
| nixternal | work with it every day pretty much | 03:38 |
| ryanakca | saweet, any idea why I get http://blog.ryanak.ca/~ryan/ickydrupal.png ? | 03:39 |
| ryanakca | those ugly yellow rectangles, which block my view to the block configuration panel? | 03:39 |
| nixternal | umm...trying to remember | 03:39 |
| nixternal | it is definitely theme related I believe | 03:39 |
| * ryanakca nods and wonders how he broke his theme | 03:40 | |
| vorian | sorry ScottK, persia had set it to incomplete. I was unsure if I should have to changed it to new. | 04:42 |
| vorian | :) | 04:42 |
| ScottK | vorian: No problem. New/Incomplete is where it should stay until it's approved. Then a motu-release member will set it to confirmed. That's your clue to proceed. | 04:43 |
| vorian | sweet | 04:43 |
| vorian | thanks for the ack | 04:43 |
| vorian | (s) | 04:44 |
| ScottK | No problem. Thanks for contributing. | 04:44 |
| ScottK | vorian: You're approved. | 05:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: kdebase FTBFS because libgraphviz4 is sitting in Universe somehow. I think if you promote it an retry the build all will be well. | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | yummy | 05:34 |
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| blizzzek | hi | 09:16 |
| jpatrick | afternoon all | 09:57 |
| GNUton | Hi | 10:05 |
| tseliot | hi all, I would like to use something like VTE with (py) QT4 without depending on gtk libraries, what do you suggest I use? | 10:42 |
| tseliot | oh, and by VTE I mean a virtual terminal which I can embed in my application so as to run small scripts in it | 10:45 |
| Riddell | tseliot: you need to wait for konsole to regain its embedded kpart | 10:46 |
| tseliot | Riddel: ok, thanks | 10:48 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: How's Alpha 5 shaping up? | 11:36 |
| Riddell | davmor2: can't say i've begun looking at it | 11:37 |
| Riddell | davmor2: but if you want to try one of today's daily's and let us know if it seems sane that would be great | 11:37 |
| davmor2 | Well there's been no updates for a while so I wondered if it was safe to test or whether there would be a boat load of updates latter | 11:38 |
| Riddell | davmor2: no updates to what? | 11:40 |
| Riddell | hmm, nothing is entering the archive | 11:41 |
| davmor2 | as in there have been no daily updates what so ever | 11:41 |
| Riddell | mm, not sure then, probably need to ask slangasek what his plans are, but he's probably asleep just now | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: it's okay cjwatson has explained about the breakage in the mirroring system that they need to fix | 11:48 |
| Riddell | that doesn't sound so bad then | 11:49 |
| davmor2 | I might leave it a bit and see how many updates come through | 11:49 |
| Tm_T | hi kids, I'm back | 11:49 |
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| stdin | Riddell: kdeartwork fails with "cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers/m6502.desktop': No such file or directory" | 12:38 |
| stdin | and kdeutild failed too http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12052381/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.kdeutils_4%3A3.5.9-0ubuntu1%7Egutsy1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 12:38 |
| stdin | *kdeutils | 12:38 |
| Riddell | doing better than hardy then :) | 12:38 |
| Riddell | oh meh, I forgot to fix that kdeutils issue | 12:38 |
| Riddell | kdeartwork will just be xscreensaver, every time it adds/removes a screensaver you also need to add/remove the .desktop file in kscreensaver | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: does a bugfix release of kdesudo require FFe ? I suspect no | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm about to upload 2.4 version, closes bug 187053 | 12:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 187053 in kdesudo "Escaped quoting problem with kdesudo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187053 | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: may you approve this one ? | 12:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no | 12:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no it doesn't require FFe, it's a bug fix | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well I uploaded 2.3 2 days ago and it looks still locked in the queue... | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: btw there is a bug in that release, that's the reason of 2.4 upoload | 12:59 |
| Riddell | 2.3 is fine, it's the archive which is broken | 13:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oki | 13:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well it isn't fine as it segfaults, hehe :) | 13:01 |
| Tonio_ | 2.4 was uploaded, I'll add the changes to kdesudo-kde4 | 13:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: my plan for today is get those xdg dirs in kde dialogs fixed | 13:02 |
| Tonio_ | upper case and so on | 13:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Did you see my note about libgraphviz4 being in Universe breaking the kdebase 3.5.9 build? | 13:15 |
| Riddell | ScottK: it's in main now | 13:16 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Cool. Will you ask after a buildd admin to retry the build or would you like for me to? | 13:16 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I've asked | 13:17 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks. I'll leave it be then. | 13:17 |
| emu | Hi folks, are there any plans to provide a packages for KDE 3.5.9 in Gutsy? | 15:51 |
| Riddell | yes | 15:51 |
| emu | Riddell: Were will they appear? ppa or backports? | 15:53 |
| emu | ^^where | 15:53 |
| Riddell | whichever works | 16:03 |
| Riddell | ask stdin if he needs testing done | 16:03 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: Is there a time line to have KDE4 in main? | 16:04 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: nope | 16:09 |
| DaSkreech | stuffPimp! :) | 16:10 |
| mok0 | I need some help sorting out the K menu ... what is the Debian folder doing there, how do things get in there and why do Science category stuff end up in "Edutainment" ?? | 16:14 |
| Riddell | debian folder is made by "menu" package as I remember | 16:16 |
| Riddell | things get in there by adding xdg .desktop files to /usr/share/applications/ | 16:16 |
| ScottK | mok0 is an KDE oriented just about to be a MOTU developer | 16:16 |
| mok0 | Riddell: how do things get into the normal K desktop (Ubuntu) then? | 16:17 |
| Riddell | science is in edutainment because that's what /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu tells it to do | 16:18 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/applications/ is the normal applications menu | 16:18 |
| Riddell | debian's one has files in /usr/share/menu | 16:18 |
| mok0 | Riddell: I've put the entry in /usr/share/applications | 16:18 |
| Riddell | good | 16:18 |
| mok0 | Riddell: Ah, so the /usr/share/menu ones come from the menu packagE? | 16:19 |
| Riddell | they come from the individual packages but the "menu" package is what puts them into the xdg applications menu | 16:20 |
| Riddell | you can ignore /usr/share/menu for ubuntu, we don't use it | 16:20 |
| mok0 | Riddell: I am just wondering how it ends up there... it seems crippled | 16:20 |
| mok0 | Riddell: dh_installmenu? | 16:21 |
| ScottK | mok0: I think that's it, but the bigger question is how did Debian menu get turned on in your system. | 16:22 |
| mok0 | ScottK: good question :-) | 16:22 |
| ScottK | It's normal for it to have packages registered, but not be displayed. | 16:23 |
| mok0 | The Debian entry has section Apps/Math which is frowned upon by lintian | 16:23 |
| mok0 | ... and it has no icon | 16:23 |
| Riddell | menu-xdg maybe | 16:24 |
| nosrednaekim | has anyone seenthis app yet? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGRUBEditor?content=75442 | 16:24 |
| Artemis_Fowl | nosrednaekim: yes. me :) its creator | 16:25 |
| nosrednaekim | Artemis_Fowl » looks nice :) does it have system settings integration? | 16:26 |
| Artemis_Fowl | nosrednaekim: nope. btw apachelogger was packaging QGRUBEditor, its predecessor | 16:26 |
| DaSkreech | What makes this K ? | 16:27 |
| nosrednaekim | which was what I was wondering.... if there was a package. | 16:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | there isnt yet | 16:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | i mean for KGRUBEditor | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | got bound to KDE | 16:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | but I think apachelogger will provide me one when it will be time | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you think I get an exception for kgrubeditor? | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | it's a new package after all | 16:28 |
| mok0 | Riddell: where can I read up on all this desktop business? I find it a tad confusing | 16:28 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'd say so | 16:30 |
| Riddell | mok0: what's actually the problem? | 16:30 |
| Artemis_Fowl | stupid bug.... | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ok, I'll try then :) | 16:30 |
| mok0 | Riddell: I am confused by the various different menu systems, how the .desktop entry gets mangled etc | 16:30 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: please don't package v0.5b | 16:30 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: I am currently fixing some bugs | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: but? | 16:31 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: v0.5 will be ready by tomorrow | 16:31 |
| DaSkreech | mok0: freedesktop.org I think | 16:31 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: can you w8 or not? | 16:31 |
| ryanakca | mok0: for desktop entries, you probably want http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ or http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ | 16:32 |
| mok0 | ryanakca: thanks | 16:32 |
| ryanakca | (last one for menu systems) | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: I will just start off with 0.5b and incorporate changes in 0.5 if necessary, so we can upload ASAP | 16:32 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: no problem then | 16:32 |
| Artemis_Fowl | btw KGRUBEditor needs documentation. Is there any KDEDocumentation team or so or should I write it by myself??? | 16:34 |
| nosrednaekim | Artemis_Fowl » any docs team is so overloaded these days that it would probably be better if you wrote it (if you have time) | 16:35 |
| Artemis_Fowl | nosrednaekim: I don't have :) so no documentation for the time being | 16:35 |
| nosrednaekim | I'd write it if I knew how. all I can write is some plain text :) | 16:36 |
| Artemis_Fowl | anyway the Assistants are self-explanatory. Mini mum requirement is understanding English | 16:36 |
| Artemis_Fowl | nosrednaekim: see this: http://l10n.kde.org/docs/doc-primer/intro.html. I discovered this trying to find out how to write documentation | 16:37 |
| Artemis_Fowl | The stupid bug was fixed :) | 16:39 |
| smarter | I've uploaded a new version of extremetuxracer in REVU but it appears in the "New packages" table instead of the "Updated packages" one, why? | 16:41 |
| mok0 | Riddell: Do you have 2 min? | 16:42 |
| smarter | oops, I wanted to post that in #ubuntu-motu, sorry | 16:42 |
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| stdin | emu: so, you want to test some 3.5.9 packages then? | 17:18 |
| Tm_T | stdin: miu | 17:31 |
| stdin | miu? | 17:32 |
| Tm_T | mau mourrrrr | 17:36 |
| * Tm_T hides | 17:36 | |
| Tm_T | stdin: what's with .9 packages? | 17:36 |
| stdin | try them out :) (if you have gutsy) | 17:37 |
| stdin | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu gutsy main | 17:37 |
| Tm_T | roger sir | 17:37 |
| DaSkreech | Yes? | 17:38 |
| stdin | kdeutils and kdeartwork is borked atm, so I know those don't work | 17:38 |
| Tm_T | DaSkreech: shush, you kid | 17:38 |
| smarter | where are the .9 for hardy? | 17:38 |
| stdin | broken for a while | 17:39 |
| Tm_T | stdin: I'm also building Qt atm so might take a moment | 17:39 |
| stdin | nice :) | 17:39 |
| Tm_T | stdin: also, what exactly I should try? | 17:40 |
| stdin | just make sure the packages install and work generally | 17:40 |
| Tm_T | heh | 17:40 |
| stdin | and don't break anything :) | 17:40 |
| stdin | anything else is "not my fault" (TM) | 17:40 |
| smarter | Is it madness to try them on hardy? ;) | 17:41 |
| stdin | you can try, but you'd fail | 17:41 |
| stdin | most are still building and I'm guessing there'll be may broken packages atm | 17:42 |
| Tm_T | heh | 17:42 |
| jabra | hey guys | 17:44 |
| stdin | hi | 17:44 |
| Riddell | hi jabra | 17:47 |
| jpatrick | evening jabra, apache|mobile_ | 17:47 |
| jabra | I researching trying to make a minmal kde base livecd, I am curious knows how any resources that may help. I have checked and read the ubuntu and kubuntu wikis already. | 17:49 |
| jabra | curious if anyone knows ... | 17:49 |
| jabra | sorry tired just got back from shmoocon | 17:49 |
| jabra | i'm also debating try to use the debian livecd project and knoppix | 17:50 |
| Riddell | jabra: there's various projects to make live CDs from ubuntu CDs, google for remaster ubuntu | 17:51 |
| Riddell | I use unidistro to create them from scratch, although it's not very well documented | 17:51 |
| jabra | hmm | 17:52 |
| jabra | yea i'm trying to start with a kde based minmal livecd and add stuff as I need | 17:52 |
| jabra | two directions to go: one from scratch and the other to strip shit out | 17:52 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: minor aesthetic question. Do I keep the bar under the topNav links, or remove it? | 17:53 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: I quite like the bar | 18:04 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: okies, I'll leave it :) | 18:04 |
| ryanakca | Should I use Kabel Book or Bistream Vera Sans Bold in our images containing text (e.g. Announcement header, etc for website)? http://kde-artists.org/node/123 | 18:23 |
| Riddell | not kabel | 18:26 |
| jjesse | afternoon | 18:26 |
| smarter | DejaVu is Vera++ | 18:26 |
| nosrednaekim | afternoon jjesse | 18:26 |
| jjesse | hello nosrednaekim | 18:27 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: so, Bitstream? | 18:27 |
| ryanakca | hey jjesse | 18:27 |
| jjesse | hello ryanakca | 18:27 |
| jjesse | i hate the flu | 18:27 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: sounds good | 18:27 |
| smarter | ryanakca: DejaVu is Bitstream with support for more unicode characters | 18:27 |
| smarter | and is included everywhere | 18:28 |
| ryanakca | smarter: hmm.. ok. Thanks | 18:28 |
| smarter | mmh, big update today | 18:33 |
| Riddell | oh, that must mean the archive is functioning again | 18:35 |
| smarter | yep | 18:36 |
| Riddell | smarter: fancy testing 3.5.9 in hardy? | 18:36 |
| buz | Riddell: i'm just installing it | 18:37 |
| buz | (will test it from 4.0 tho) | 18:37 |
| buz | archive.ubuntu seems to work, but not mirrors | 18:38 |
| * buz needs a break from hacking latex,testing kde 3.5.9 will be just perfect :P | 18:40 | |
| buz | uhm thats bad | 18:43 |
| buz | kde4 immediately crashed when i tried to login after installing kde 3.5.9 | 18:44 |
| buz | but on the plus side, kde 3.5.9 comes up lightning quick | 18:45 |
| smarter | Riddell: of course ;) | 18:46 |
| buz | konqueror incl. flash works | 18:46 |
| buz | luks works beautifully | 18:46 |
| buz | amarok plays mp3 | 18:46 |
| buz | kmail finally filters mail again | 18:47 |
| buz | Riddell: any specific things you want tested? | 18:48 |
| buz | smplayer stopped working | 18:48 |
| buz | dumps core | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any name of a guy that would be interested for a packaging employement ? | 18:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: my copany is looking for a full time packager/sysadmin | 18:59 |
| Tonio_ | working home possible, ideally based in europe... | 18:59 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: I don't know of anyone but you could ask on the kubuntu-devel and motu lists | 19:17 |
| Aikurn | hi | 19:17 |
| buz | since updating to kde 3.5.9 i get this when trying to start a kde4 session http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4726/ | 19:17 |
| Riddell | hi Aikurn | 19:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep | 19:17 |
| buz | (on the plus side, kde3.5.9 seems to work like a charm) | 19:18 |
| Riddell | Aikurn: install kdebase-bin-kde4 ? | 19:18 |
| cheguevara | hmm now i am too scared to update to 3.5.9 | 19:19 |
| * Tm_T isn't | 19:19 | |
| buz | cheguevara: depends if you want to use kde4 :P | 19:19 |
| Tm_T | I'm also running KDE4.1 series ;) | 19:20 |
| cheguevara | its all i use :P | 19:20 |
| buz | (kde4 apps from kde3 also dont work) | 19:20 |
| buz | yeah same here | 19:20 |
| cheguevara | anyone else has an updated system and can check | 19:20 |
| Riddell | buz: install kdebase-bin-kde4 ? | 19:20 |
| smarter | kde4 apps don't word under 3.5.9 here too | 19:20 |
| buz | Riddell: ii kdebase-bin-kde4 4:4.0.1-0ubuntu2 core binaries for the KDE 4 base module | 19:21 |
| smarter | "Fatal error: you need to have a KComponentData object before you do anything that requires it! Examples of this are config objects, standard directories or translations." | 19:21 |
| buz | smarter: exactly | 19:21 |
| cheguevara | *closes update manager* | 19:21 |
| buz | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 19:22 |
| buz | lyx does no longer work | 19:22 |
| Aikurn | Riddell: installed | 19:22 |
| cheguevara | http://www.nabble.com/lyx-crash-when-loading-eps-files-td15063140.html | 19:22 |
| cheguevara | here u go :P | 19:22 |
| smarter | the right-click flash menu still has funny colors | 19:22 |
| buz | qt4 is somehow broken | 19:23 |
| buz | because lyx is only a qt app, not a kde one | 19:23 |
| cheguevara | but it uses kde libs | 19:23 |
| cheguevara | according to the above post | 19:23 |
| smarter | qtconfig-qt4 display the same kcomponentdata error | 19:23 |
| cheguevara | there's no qt update though | 19:24 |
| buz | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4727/ does not look like it uses kde to me | 19:24 |
| buz | the app looks decidedly qtish as well | 19:25 |
| buz | boy this sucks | 19:25 |
| buz | (thou shalt not use alpha software when working on masters thesis, i guess) | 19:25 |
| Tm_T | hih | 19:25 |
| smarter | use Kile :) | 19:26 |
| buz | i hate latex syntax | 19:26 |
| buz | it's fugly | 19:26 |
| cheguevara | lets see what else is in the update list | 19:26 |
| buz | can you paste the update to pastebin? | 19:26 |
| buz | last update to qt4 was on 14th | 19:28 |
| cheguevara | http://pastebin.ca/908822 | 19:28 |
| buz | but that cant be the culprit | 19:28 |
| cheguevara | thats what i got now of a functioning system | 19:28 |
| buz | why was restricted-manager removed, anyawy? | 19:28 |
| smarter | buz: it has been replaced by jockey | 19:28 |
| buz | i dont think i got jockey here | 19:29 |
| buz | oh i do | 19:29 |
| cheguevara | kubuntu-default-settings may be? | 19:29 |
| cheguevara | since some kde4 bits were added there | 19:30 |
| buz | or kubuntu-kde4-desktop | 19:30 |
| cheguevara | thats a meta package i think | 19:30 |
| buz | true | 19:30 |
| cheguevara | though that still doesnt explain why qt only apps fail | 19:30 |
| * buz sets up a gutsy vbox | 19:32 | |
| cheguevara | any ideas Riddell | 19:32 |
| jpatrick | buz: use vim | 19:32 |
| buz | i want gui | 19:32 |
| buz | i have used kile in the past and i do KNOW latex | 19:32 |
| buz | its just way more comfortable in lyx :P | 19:32 |
| cheguevara | smarter and buz so all qt4 progs fail? | 19:34 |
| buz | smplayer does so too | 19:34 |
| smarter | cheguevara: yes | 19:34 |
| buz | know any more qt4 ones? | 19:34 |
| smarter | qtconfig-qt4 | 19:34 |
| smarter | hplip | 19:35 |
| smarter | jockey-kde | 19:35 |
| DaSkreech | Gutsy Froze again :( | 19:37 |
| buz | yep jockey dumps core | 19:37 |
| cheguevara | thing is KComonentData is a kde function so it must be kde related | 19:37 |
| buz | but why do qt4 apps even bother with kde | 19:37 |
| cheguevara | so the question here is | 19:38 |
| cheguevara | does anyone have gnome :P | 19:38 |
| buz | i could install it | 19:38 |
| buz | i will reinstall this box when hardy is released anyhow | 19:38 |
| DaSkreech | Hi hunger | 19:38 |
| cheguevara | same here, but i am low on disk space | 19:39 |
| buz | got 4G left | 19:39 |
| hunger | DaSkreech: ho. | 19:39 |
| buz | needs 1G according to aptitude | 19:39 |
| DaSkreech | hunger: how goes? seems you have a decent set of submissions for Kwallet | 19:39 |
| buz | tho archive.ubuntu is not the fastest of all mirrors :P | 19:39 |
| cheguevara | or may be xfce even | 19:39 |
| cheguevara | anything DE thats not kde :P | 19:40 |
| DaSkreech | Luna? | 19:40 |
| cheguevara | xubuntu-desktop is around 500 mb | 19:41 |
| hunger | DaSkreech: Yeap, George does wonders.-) | 19:41 |
| DaSkreech | hunger: Have you thought of outlining JJs? | 19:42 |
| cheguevara | http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/darwin_awards_nominee.jpg :P | 19:42 |
| buz | i'm installing it | 19:42 |
| buz | as well as gutsy :P | 19:42 |
| cheguevara | nice :) | 19:42 |
| hunger | DaSkreech: JJs? | 19:42 |
| DaSkreech | Junior Jobs | 19:42 |
| buz | cheguevara: if mythbusters are to be trusted that may not be fatal | 19:43 |
| cheguevara | heh | 19:43 |
| buz | still i would try it | 19:43 |
| jpatrick | cheguevara: haha | 19:43 |
| buz | its fake | 19:44 |
| buz | nobody is possibly that dumb | 19:44 |
| DaSkreech | hunger: I haven't asked tackat but he blogs his and I would suspect gets hits | 19:44 |
| cheguevara | u'd be surprised lol | 19:44 |
| jpatrick | buz: you'd be surprised.... | 19:45 |
| DaSkreech | mattr did a call out for help with Kopete KDE4 port and got people | 19:45 |
| buz | well maybe | 19:45 |
| buz | never underestimate stupidity | 19:45 |
| jpatrick | buz: you obviously don't know many trolls... | 19:45 |
| buz | i know plenty | 19:46 |
| buz | most are not stupid at all | 19:46 |
| buz | none of the good ones is, anyway | 19:46 |
| cheguevara | does anyone have wine installed | 19:47 |
| Tm_T | cheguevara: yes? | 19:47 |
| jpatrick | power cable has no current probably | 19:47 |
| cheguevara | Tm_T, can you check if its working for you | 19:47 |
| cheguevara | every windows app seg faults for me | 19:48 |
| jpatrick | cheguevara: that's a new feature | 19:48 |
| Tm_T | cheguevara: in gutsy? | 19:48 |
| cheguevara | jpatrick: lol | 19:48 |
| Tm_T | jpatrick: "securityfix, no evil code can be run" | 19:48 |
| cheguevara | Tm_T, hardy | 19:48 |
| Tm_T | cheguevara: then can't help atm | 19:48 |
| cheguevara | :( | 19:48 |
| cheguevara | mmap2(0x7ffd8000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7ffd8000 | 19:48 |
| cheguevara | --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- | 19:48 |
| cheguevara | +++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++ | 19:48 |
| Tm_T | my secondary system is still down | 19:48 |
| gykslrzz | hiii | 19:51 |
| Tm_T | ok | 19:53 |
| buz | mpf installing the foot takes forever | 19:53 |
| buz | just occured to me, is gnome a pun at trolltech? | 19:54 |
| cheguevara | lol | 19:57 |
| buz | ok gnome is installed | 19:57 |
| buz | logout | 19:57 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: have a preference as for the margine on either side? 12px or 23px ? | 19:58 |
| ryanakca | s/23/22/g | 19:58 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: can't say I do | 19:59 |
| buz | crashes happen in gnome too | 20:00 |
| buz | same symptoms | 20:00 |
| cheguevara | well that was pointless | 20:01 |
| buz | one thing to be said for gnome: it shuts down lighting quick | 20:01 |
| cheguevara | lol | 20:01 |
| buz | boy how can people in ubuntu land live with that brown color scheme | 20:02 |
| cheguevara | 'cause it lacks features :P | 20:02 |
| buz | by that measure, kde4 should shutdown even faster | 20:02 |
| buz | hehe cool | 20:02 |
| buz | i sent virtualbox before logout into save state | 20:02 |
| buz | now it resumed installing gutsy just where it was left of | 20:03 |
| cheguevara | buz, so on gnome u still get the KComponentData error? | 20:06 |
| buz | yes | 20:06 |
| buz | unless that was related to konversation running? | 20:06 |
| cheguevara | could be, since konversation would star krunner and friends | 20:07 |
| * buz starts another session | 20:07 | |
| cheguevara | klauncher i mean | 20:08 |
| cheguevara | which program are you trying? | 20:08 |
| buz | lyx | 20:08 |
| buz | which is qt4 | 20:08 |
| cheguevara | have you got qtconfig-qt4 ? that would probaby be better | 20:08 |
| buz | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "qtconfig-qt4" | 20:09 |
| buz | oh its called qt4-config | 20:09 |
| cheguevara | its called qtconfig-qt4 here | 20:11 |
| buz | Unpacking qt4-qtconfig (from .../qt4-qtconfig_4.3.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb) ... | 20:11 |
| buz | but the app itself is called qtconfig-qt4 | 20:11 |
| buz | it seems | 20:11 |
| cheguevara | oh right | 20:11 |
| cheguevara | just before you run it can you copy ps aux bo pastebin pls | 20:12 |
| buz | me error | 20:12 |
| cheguevara | output of "ps aux" i mean | 20:12 |
| buz | too late | 20:12 |
| buz | ah well kill gnome, try again :P | 20:12 |
| buz | ps would list this kde session as well, no? | 20:13 |
| cheguevara | just make it clean and completely log out :P | 20:13 |
| buz | mhh cut my life line :P | 20:14 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: okies | 20:14 |
| buz | how about kdm :P | 20:14 |
| nareshov | Can I get to hardy from kubuntu with a simple %s/gutsy/hardy/g + update && safe-upgrade && dist-upgrade ? | 20:14 |
| buz | right now i would not do that | 20:15 |
| buz | but in theory, yes | 20:15 |
| cheguevara | lol | 20:15 |
| smarter | nareshov: kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" should be safer | 20:15 |
| cheguevara | kdm should be ok | 20:15 |
| buz | no luck | 20:18 |
| nareshov | smarter: nice, it's working | 20:18 |
| buz | http://pastebin.ca/908905 | 20:19 |
| cheguevara | god thats a lot of processes | 20:21 |
| cheguevara | right i need to step out for a bit | 20:21 |
| cheguevara | be back soon | 20:21 |
| buz | there's something wrong with python installs | 20:21 |
| buz | first python-app breaks, now update-manager | 20:21 |
| cheguevara | theres a python-central update | 20:22 |
| buz | yes that breaks stuff | 20:22 |
| * nareshov crosses fingers as he "Dist upgrades" to hardy >_> | 20:23 | |
| buz | good luck | 20:24 |
| buz | i hope you dont use any qt4 apps :P | 20:24 |
| nareshov | I do! | 20:24 |
| nareshov | I have apps from the KDE4 PPA | 20:24 |
| buz | you wont be happy then | 20:24 |
| nosrednaekim | are they going to 4.4 or something? | 20:24 |
| buz | or maybe you will be | 20:24 |
| nareshov | :) | 20:25 |
| buz | it will obe interesting if they work for a newly installed hardy | 20:25 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: ping | 20:27 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: from dragonplayer diff.gz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56538/ | 20:28 |
| jpatrick | :) | 20:28 |
| * buz grabs last version of kubuntu-default-settings from launchpad | 20:32 | |
| buz | are there kde3.5.9 packages for gutsy | 20:35 |
| nixternal | not that I see | 20:36 |
| Riddell | yes | 20:37 |
| jpatrick | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu gutsy main | 20:37 |
| Riddell | in testing | 20:37 |
| nixternal | ahhhh | 20:37 |
| nixternal | and here come the 3.5.9 updates for hardy | 20:38 |
| nixternal | w00t | 20:38 |
| buz | nixternal: if you want to use qt4 apps dont install them | 20:38 |
| Riddell | qt4 apps work here | 20:43 |
| buz | in hardy? | 20:44 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 20:45 |
| nixternal | no KDM is coming up now after my update | 20:45 |
| buz | using kde4? | 20:45 |
| buz | i mean kdm4? | 20:45 |
| nixternal | kdm | 20:45 |
| buz | kdm still works for me | 20:46 |
| buz | thankfully | 20:46 |
| nixternal | I think my desktop might be hosed though | 20:46 |
| buz | hosed like how | 20:47 |
| nixternal | in everyway possible | 20:47 |
| nixternal | I haven't used it in a while and I can't remember if it was hosed before or not | 20:47 |
| nixternal | w00t, KDM works again | 20:47 |
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| nixternal | kdm-kde4 that is | 20:47 |
| nixternal | ok, maybe it does't | 20:47 |
| buz | kde4 crashes just after hitting login for me | 20:47 |
| nixternal | now this is silly | 20:50 |
| nixternal | kdm-kde4 works to log into kde3, but doesn't work to log into kde4 | 20:50 |
| buz | well qt4 stuff is broken | 20:50 |
| buz | so kde4 wont work | 20:50 |
| nixternal | I removed kdm-kde4 to use the old kdm, and it doesn't even go into kdm | 20:50 |
| nixternal | I am on KDE 4 right now | 20:50 |
| buz | with kdm? | 20:51 |
| nixternal | yup | 20:51 |
| buz | weird | 20:51 |
| buz | for me not a single qt4 based app works | 20:51 |
| nixternal | ahh, now we are back to kdm working | 20:51 |
| nixternal | w00t | 20:51 |
| buz | damn my kde4 still doesn not work | 20:51 |
| nixternal | oh wow | 20:52 |
| nixternal | KDE 4 isn't working | 20:52 |
| nixternal | damnit, that means I cannot log out of my laptop or I am screwed | 20:53 |
| Riddell | I don't understand what the problem could be | 20:53 |
| buz | its pretty weird | 20:54 |
| nixternal | ya, it goes to log into KDE 4, shows the hard drive icon in the splash, and then crashes back out to kdm | 20:54 |
| buz | qt4 apps complaining about not finden K objects | 20:54 |
| buz | nixternal: same here | 20:54 |
| buz | nixternal: try starting a kde4 app in kde3 | 20:54 |
| nixternal | ya, KDE 4 apps aren't working at all | 20:55 |
| * nosrednaekim is glad he isn't on hardy | 20:55 | |
| nixternal | hrmm, some seem to be working | 20:56 |
| buz | which is working | 20:57 |
| nixternal | Fatal error: you need to have a KComponentData object before you do anything that requires it! Examples of this are config objects, standard directories or translations | 20:57 |
| nixternal | Aborted (core dumped) | 20:57 |
| buz | exactly | 20:57 |
| nixternal | Dolphin works though | 20:57 |
| nixternal | isn't a qt4 issue because qt4 apps are working | 20:57 |
| buz | not for me | 20:58 |
| buz | qtconfig-qt4 | 20:58 |
| buz | Fatal error: you need to have a KComponentData object before | 20:58 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 20:58 |
| nixternal | ya, same thing with qtconfig, but my qt4 python apps are working | 20:59 |
| buz | http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kglobal_8cpp-source.html error comes from here | 21:00 |
| smarter | why is NDEBUG not defined in the kubuntu package? | 21:02 |
| jpatrick | smarter: smaller size | 21:02 |
| smarter | jpatrick: packages with debug have smaller size? o_O | 21:03 |
| nixternal | ahh, nothing like being back in KDE 3 | 21:04 |
| nixternal | this sucks, and the fonts suck | 21:04 |
| buz | looks so old | 21:04 |
| buz | but trusty | 21:04 |
| nixternal | hehe, ya | 21:04 |
| nixternal | it seems we aren't the only ones with this issue either | 21:04 |
| buz | ? | 21:05 |
| nixternal | Fedora and OpenSUSE as well according to this kde.devel.core.bugs report filed on 2008-01-30 | 21:05 |
| nixternal | they have pinpointed the issue to kdelibs4 | 21:05 |
| nixternal | they say removing that fixes it | 21:05 |
| buz | and breaks kde4 i imagine | 21:06 |
| buz | well at least i'll get back lyx, maybe | 21:06 |
| nixternal | hehe, that is the first app that reported a similar problem | 21:07 |
| buz | yeah but only in a special case | 21:07 |
| buz | and it's a qt4 app | 21:07 |
| buz | not kde | 21:07 |
| buz | which is doubly weird | 21:07 |
| buz | yeah lyx is back | 21:07 |
| buz | kde4 is gone but since it didnt work.... | 21:07 |
| nixternal | man, been a few months since I was last in KDE 3 | 21:08 |
| nixternal | it just isn't as...impressive I guess :) | 21:08 |
| buz | rock solid though | 21:08 |
| buz | and so many features :P | 21:08 |
| nixternal | KDE 4.0.1 was rock solid for me | 21:08 |
| nixternal | yesterday was the first day I really had any crashes | 21:09 |
| buz | krunner would crash on hourly basis | 21:09 |
| nixternal | not for me it did't | 21:09 |
| nixternal | my only issue was with Konqi | 21:09 |
| buz | and x freezes every few days | 21:09 |
| buz | (that may be partly intels fault though) | 21:09 |
| smarter | KDE4 is pretty stable here | 21:09 |
| smarter | but it's *so* slow | 21:09 |
| nosrednaekim | slow? | 21:09 |
| nixternal | not here it isn't :p | 21:09 |
| nixternal | you can't log into it here now :( | 21:09 |
| nosrednaekim | first time I've heard that kde4 is slow | 21:09 |
| nixternal | OK, I do not see what the issue could be at all | 21:10 |
| buz | turning of composite helps speed | 21:10 |
| buz | (of course, intel getting their act together with their aiglx support would help, too) | 21:10 |
| smarter | simple test: launch konqueror4, press CTRL+T during 2 seconds, watch, do the same with konqueror 3 | 21:10 |
| nosrednaekim | buz » interestingly.... composite makes mine faster | 21:10 |
| smarter | under kde3 or kde4 | 21:10 |
| nixternal | my Intel + KDE 4 w/ composite kicks arse | 21:11 |
| smarter | ATI Mobity X600 here | 21:11 |
| nixternal | and this is a 1.6GHz Celeron with 1.5GB of ram, the 945 chipset | 21:11 |
| buz | it does not even play video | 21:11 |
| smarter | kde3 is really fast | 21:11 |
| smarter | kde4 is almost unusable | 21:11 |
| buz | (ok it does not really play video in any case, the tearing really sucks) | 21:11 |
| nosrednaekim | smarter » slightly slower, | 21:12 |
| nixternal | I had KDE 4 running nicely using the r300 drivers not to long ago on my desktop | 21:12 |
| smarter | nosrednaekim: with konqueror 3 I can see the tabs appearing | 21:12 |
| smarter | with konqueror 4 everything freezes and they appear 5 by 5 very slowly | 21:12 |
| smarter | and I'm not the only one who thinks kde4 is slow | 21:14 |
| smarter | I hope Qt 4.4 will improve things | 21:14 |
| buz | yeah maybe qtwebkit :P | 21:14 |
| ryanakca | smarter: I don't notice any speed diference between KDE4/KDE3 | 21:19 |
| smarter | ryanakca: lucky you | 21:20 |
| ryanakca | what are you running? I have... *waits for sysinfo to finish installing* | 21:20 |
| smarter | Pentium M 1,73 GHz - 512 MB of RAM - ATi Radeon Mobility X600 | 21:21 |
| smarter | on a 2 years old hp compaq nx8220 | 21:21 |
| ryanakca | AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ 1000.000 MHz + 502 MiB of RAM + GeForce 7600 GS | 21:22 |
| nosrednaekim | turion X2 1.6ghz 1gig ram, Xpress1100 graphics | 21:23 |
| smarter | and I use the free radeon driver | 21:24 |
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| nixternal | holy smokes | 21:29 |
| nixternal | I just noticed something really really weird | 21:29 |
| jpatrick | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56549/ I rock! | 21:30 |
| nixternal | nevermind | 21:30 |
| nixternal | no, you will rock harder when you get my Kubuntu fixed :p | 21:31 |
| nixternal | man, I created a diff between 3.5.8 and 3.5.9, opened it up, looked at it, and my head exploded | 21:31 |
| smarter | jpatrick: great :) | 21:31 |
| smarter | I'll try to forward my bespin package to them | 21:32 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal » I thought it was just a bug/security update | 21:32 |
| jpatrick | smarter: err, too late, did that | 21:32 |
| nixternal | just looking at all of the recent updates for something | 21:32 |
| smarter | jpatrick: cool | 21:32 |
| smarter | jpatrick: so I'll forward extremetuxracer or kepas | 21:33 |
| jpatrick | did kepas | 21:33 |
| jpatrick | lol | 21:33 |
| smarter | you're everywhere :} | 21:34 |
| nzk | Is there anything that needs to be ported from qt3 to qt4? | 21:40 |
| nosrednaekim | nzk » alot of system settings modules I think. | 21:41 |
| nixternal | hrmm, so this is also a Gutsy issue with KDE 4* not working now as well? | 21:57 |
| smarter | since I upgraded to kde 3.5.9, I can't remove copy or cut files with Konqueror | 21:58 |
| smarter | the options are greyed out in the right click menu | 21:58 |
| smarter | and doing CTRL+C or CTRL+V does nothing | 21:58 |
| smarter | D3lphin works fine | 22:00 |
| nixternal | ya, same here | 22:00 |
| smarter | buz: can you confirm this? | 22:02 |
| smarter | (or anyone else who is running kde 3.5.9) | 22:03 |
| nixternal | I can | 22:07 |
| nixternal | whoa | 22:08 |
| nixternal | smarter: it works | 22:08 |
| nixternal | when you select something, they then become available | 22:09 |
| nixternal | no, it is working for me, I can remove, copy, and cut files, and I can use ctrl+c/v as well | 22:09 |
| smarter | strange then | 22:10 |
| nixternal | I cannot pinpoint where this problem comes from | 22:13 |
| nixternal | the only big changes I see with kdelibs are with config/makefile stuff | 22:13 |
| nixternal | all of the code changes seem somewhat minor | 22:13 |
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| nixternal | whoa | 22:15 |
| nixternal | I found it!!!! | 22:15 |
| nixternal | /etc/kde4rc | 22:15 |
| nixternal | I deleted it, and I can now run KDE 4 | 22:15 |
| nixternal | Riddell: k-d-s could be the issue maybe? | 22:16 |
| nixternal | YES!!! | 22:16 |
| nixternal | Riddell: the issue with is with the new KDE 4 stuff added to k-d-s | 22:17 |
| jjesse | congrats on getting it back up and running | 22:17 |
| nixternal | I can now open up all of my kde4 files within kde3 | 22:17 |
| buz | i can cut and paste files | 22:17 |
| buz | mhh how about qtconfig-qt4? | 22:17 |
| smarter | after closing and opening konqueror again it works | 22:17 |
| nixternal | buz: yes, it works! | 22:18 |
| buz | so i'll reinstall kde4 | 22:18 |
| nixternal | yup, /etc/kde4rc seems to hold the issue | 22:22 |
| nixternal | as soon as I readd the file nothing KDE 4 works | 22:22 |
| nixternal | not even qtconfig-qt4 | 22:23 |
| jjesse | i think today is the day i shouldn't touch a computer | 22:27 |
| jjesse | both of my vms have frozen on me :( | 22:27 |
| buz | great it works again | 22:27 |
| nixternal | hehe | 22:28 |
| buz | thx, nixternal | 22:28 |
| buz | i can even use a kde4 session again | 22:28 |
| nixternal | yup | 22:28 |
| buz | looks muuch nicer ;P | 22:28 |
| nixternal | it is the link to /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/default that is the issue it seems | 22:28 |
| nixternal | w00t | 22:30 |
| nixternal | I have totally pinpointed the issue! | 22:30 |
| nixternal | [Directories] | 22:31 |
| nixternal | userProfileMapFile=/etc/kde-user-profile | 22:31 |
| nixternal | that right there | 22:31 |
| nixternal | actually, that entire file is an issue...even with that commented out, you get a blank, and I mean blank kde4 :) | 22:31 |
| buz | time to go to bed | 22:33 |
| buz | night | 22:33 |
| jpatrick | likewise | 22:33 |
| nixternal | oh man, all of the kde4 stuff in k-d-s is for KDE 3 | 22:34 |
| nixternal | it should not be installed, and that was a really bad upload | 22:34 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: hit aplg I think | 22:35 |
| jpatrick | can't remember | 22:35 |
| nixternal | apachelogger_: you around at all? | 22:36 |
| smarter | nixternal: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/plasma-appletsrc does not look like a kde3 config :P | 22:36 |
| nixternal | well, that is the only thing | 22:37 |
| nixternal | look at the wallpaper it wants to use | 22:37 |
| nixternal | it wants to use the kubuntu-wallpaper from KDE 3 | 22:37 |
| cheguevara | back | 22:37 |
| smarter | so what? | 22:37 |
| nixternal | 1) default/ for kde4 in k-d-s is far from complete | 22:37 |
| smarter | kde3 wallpapers are not compatible with kde4? :} | 22:37 |
| nixternal | no, just proving it is the same file that is in the kde3 section of k-d-s | 22:37 |
| cheguevara | see i told you it was k-d-s :P | 22:38 |
| nixternal | we don't need to be modifying KDE 4 yet anyways...with a stock KDE 4 it is fine...no need to start changing the look anyways yet | 22:39 |
| nixternal | let it mature first | 22:39 |
| * smarter thinks that the default color scheme is too grey | 22:40 | |
| nixternal | I also noticed in plasma, using slim-glow for the theme, only problem is, there is no slim-glow installed, let alone available in the repos | 22:43 |
| nixternal | ahh, feels so good to be back in KDE 4 :) | 22:48 |
| cheguevara | so basically everything is safe to upgrade except k-d-s? | 22:49 |
| nixternal | yes | 22:50 |
| cheguevara | kk | 22:51 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: heh, I like the idea of that automatic configuration file editor creator (mouthful) I may just have to do it. I hope i'm old enough for the google summer of code | 23:02 |
| jjesse | grumble grumble | 23:03 |
| jjesse | vms still broked | 23:03 |
| Riddell | nixternal: is it just plasma-appletsrc which is a problem in k-d-s? | 23:29 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: you need to be 18 | 23:29 |
| Riddell | (not sure on which date) | 23:29 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: last time I would have missed the cut off date by a week. (though I was only 16 at the time) | 23:29 |
| nosrednaekim | hopefully its just a bit later this year | 23:30 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: ok for developer week tomorrow? | 23:32 |
| Tm_T | yes so far :) | 23:32 |
| cheguevara | Riddell, all the kde 4 settings that get written are kde 3 settings | 23:33 |
| cheguevara | plasma-appletsrc is the only thing thats RIGHT :P | 23:33 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: there is some source I should doublecheck to be prepared? | 23:39 |
| Riddell | nixternal: are you going to upload that k-d-s change? | 23:39 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: would be good to have it announced on the kubuntu-devel list | 23:40 |
| Tm_T | the happening? | 23:40 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: yes | 23:46 |
| Tm_T | roger | 23:46 |
| nixternal | Riddell: already did upload the changes | 23:48 |
| nixternal | to bzr repo that is | 23:48 |
| Riddell | nixternal: thanks | 23:48 |
| Riddell | nixternal: oh, I mean to the real thing | 23:48 |
| nixternal | it is in main, so I can't | 23:49 |
| Riddell | nixternal: well at least add a changelog so you can get the karma | 23:49 |
| nixternal | I am not worried about the Karma :) | 23:49 |
| nixternal | ooh, I should have updated it anyways in bzr, totally forgot about that | 23:50 |
| nixternal | not to shabby of a day, I did my 5-a-day, figured out the issue with kde 4 stuff after update, and now I will work on finishing up the chapter for the book | 23:51 |
| cheguevara | :P | 23:51 |
| nixternal | didn't do my homework that is due tomorrow though :p | 23:52 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: sent, might or might not contain all needed information | 23:53 |
| cheguevara | i wish they'd put update-manager version information back already | 23:55 |
| nixternal | I am attempting to work on a PyKDE4 tutorial...taking PyQt4 examples and converting them to PyKDE4...thus far, I haven't been successful :p | 23:56 |
| cheguevara | lol | 23:56 |
| nixternal | I can do the stuff in PyQt4 now with my eyes closed, but PyKDE4 doesn't like me | 23:57 |
| nixternal | layout is what is getting me | 23:57 |
| nixternal | layout = QVBoxLayout() works great, but you can't simply do layout = KVBox() and use it the same way..and the API docs for it aren't the clearest | 23:58 |
| nixternal | QDialog and KDialog I have them differences down | 23:58 |
| Riddell | KVBox? | 23:59 |
| Riddell | never heard of it | 23:59 |
| nixternal | it is in the API for Vertical layout | 23:59 |
| nixternal | I have a KTextBrowser and a KLineEdit I want layed out vertically within the dialog | 23:59 |
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