[00:00] odd, seems the fgl driver should work [00:00] can you please pastebin your X11 config file? [00:00] s/brokenness/nvidia brokenness/ [00:01] eklof, and please install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd-dbg [00:01] mkay [00:01] hang on a sec [00:05] choudesh: http://slask.eklof.eu/xorg.conf.txt [00:06] choudesh: http://slask.eklof.eu/lspci.txt [00:06] eklof, install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd and see if that helps [00:07] choudesh: ok [00:11] choudesh: nope, only 2 screens after reboot [00:11] eklof, thanks ok. [00:11] ~thats ok. [00:12] eklof, now run aticonfig [00:12] sure [00:12] eklof, give me a sec, need to destroy my setup so I can walk you through [00:13] ok [00:13] thanks! [00:13] aticonfig is command only, what parameters do you want? [00:14] aticonfig --initial=dual-head [00:15] this will be intresting :) [00:15] Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0 [00:15] Screen "aticonfig-Screen[1]" RightOf "aticonfig-Screen[0]" [00:15] now set up your quad screen following the duel screen setup in xorg.conf [00:16] setup your "Server Layout" [00:16] choudesh: do I need to add the paste? [00:16] ok so I change server layout to what you pasted? [00:16] no [00:16] to however you have your's setup [00:16] so, in the server layout you may have [00:17] Screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0 [00:17] Screen "screen1" RightOf "Default Screen [00:17] ^that's what i have now [00:17] Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0 [00:17] Screen "aticonfig-Screen[1]" RightOf "aticonfig-Screen[0]" [00:18] err [00:18] Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0 [00:18] Screen "aticonfig-Screen[2]" RightOf "aticonfig-Screen[1]" [00:18] Screen "aticonfig-Screen[3]" RightOf "aitconfig-Screen[2] [00:18] Screen "aticonfig-Screen[1]" RightOf "aticonfig-Screen[0]" [00:18] something like that - however you have yours monitors setup [00:18] hmm [00:18] I get it [00:18] then create the monitors in the monitor section [00:19] they are created [00:19] i have three there now [00:19] then create the devices...you can cut and copy what they have and just change a few things [00:19] well this is to much, bound to screw something up [00:19] :=) [00:35] System -> Administration -> NVIDIA X Server Settings (that's new) [00:44] they added a icon for the nvidia config tool finially? or is it a actal new tool? [00:48] Wow. Someone seems to have turned on the "make the kernel much more power-efficient" button. [00:49] nVidia's 60Hz interupt is now more than 25% of my total wakeups. [01:15] Dr_willis, icon for nvidia config tool finally [01:28] ffer, if this was windows.. they would put a link to that tool right there on the main desktop right click menu.. where you alwyas see it..and never need it.... :) [01:28] there seems to be a bad trend where they are tryong to make EVERYTHING easier to get to..and just cluttering up everything else. heh. [01:29] * Dr_willis is glad his Ubuntu menus are not clutteed with lots of 'uninstall thisorthat' icons. [01:30] in the text installer, when it gets to the hard drive configuration how do I see the partitions already installed? I click manual and it just shows me the hard drive, no parititions [01:31] I know there are three on there, one being ntfs for windows vista. [01:31] billytwowilly, i often go to the other consoles (alt-ctrl-f2 through 6) and use sudo fdisk -l [01:31] to see whats on the various disks [01:31] they add an icon on the task menu running, yeah right click menu, control panel... where else? =) [01:32] ok, but it should still show up. [01:33] and when I go fdisk -l I see all my partitions. [01:33] Dr_willis, it's a different way of thinking, put it everywhere so everyone can find it, but when you got one place and it's consistent with everything else that could be easy also =) [01:33] hey guys. just wondering if i can upgrade from an alpha to the final release when it comes just by doing an apt-get upgrade? [01:34] how do I tell it which partitions to use for / and /home if I can't see my current partitions? [01:35] This is pretty lame guys. [01:35] Dr_willis, nice that it has a home, you don't have to enable it in Applications menu or call it from the command line, It's still not up to par with the windows one though... few things to add to it, but nice to see it there [01:36] hmm. the same thing happens in gutsy... [01:36] really lame. [01:37] odious: Yes, possibly modulo configuration stuff. [01:37] all I need is for the stupid thing to see my current partitions. [01:39] RAOF: modulo? [01:41] odious: Yes, the final will be just an alpha + all the updates. There may be differences between a clean alpha, fully upgraded and a clean fresh install of the final though. If the installer changes or the default programs change, etc. [01:42] Wait around, darnit :) [01:43] so when I look at the output it looks like libnewt, rdate-udeb, efi-modules doesn't exist and so partman-bas finds no matching physical volumes, no volume groups [01:59] billytwowilly, mount the partitions and look as to what is on each one? [02:00] I normally know what partitiosn i am using for / and /home., :) the first one on the hd is / the 2nd is /home [02:03] what I'm saying is that in the text installer the partitions don't show up, all I see is the device. [02:04] Never noticed. - You can still see what partitions are there with fdisk -l. [02:05] if you have ide drives. be carefull - they often show up as sd%% disks now. [02:05] yes, but how do I tell the installer which ones to format and which one to install everything on if the installer doesn't see them? [02:05] it's all sata. [02:05] Im wondering its not looking at the wrong disk. - [02:05] there's only one. It's a laptop [02:06] unless it thinks the cdrom is a 120 GB drive;) [02:06] check sudo fdisk -l, and see what it sees.. sounds like a bug in the installer to me. [02:06] I think there's a bug. [02:06] I normally leave a large part of the hd unalocated and let the instalelrs auto partition it. [02:06] in the dmesg like output in tty4 it says "menu item 'partman-base' selected [02:06] then partman: no matching physical volumes found [02:06] partman: no volume groups found [02:07] partman: reading all physical volumes. This may take a while ... [02:07] it's all allocated because I'm blowing away a gutsy install. [02:11] I just blew away Gutsy and installed HardyA4 on my Thinkpad with a 160gb SATA drive [02:11] it did a good job, left everything alone and Vista still dual boots [02:16] did you use the text installer? [02:27] no [02:28] I booted off the live CD and installed from there [02:44] my sound isn't working after reboot in Hardy [02:44] any suggestions [02:44] Intel HSA [02:44] sorry HDA [02:44] it worked during the install and up until I went to bed [02:45] damnit, even the desktop installer doesn't see my darn partition table! [02:55] billytwowilly, i wonder if the controller/disk in that laptop is hacing issues with the kernel then. [02:55] I mentioned the partman errors already. [02:56] and now "program parted_devices is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO [02:56] It's a hitachi sata disk. [02:59] Be interesting to see if any other linux live cd's see the disk properly [02:59] This system has worked with linux befor? [03:00] work time for me. byee [03:00] I installed rc5 of gutsy on it. [03:01] and fdisk sees everything fine. [03:01] it's the stupid ubuntu installer that is broken. [03:02] and it sees the hardrive it just shows up as "/dev/sda" with no partitions when fdisk sees them! [03:02] same thing with gutsy. [03:02] It's quite annoying. [03:05] Have there been any new developments in EXA acceleration for Intel video in Hardy or X.org's latest sources? [03:06] billytwowilly, can you log a bug please [03:08] I think I might know why this is happening. [03:08] how do I blow away the mbr? [03:09] what is the linux equivalent of fdisk /mbr ? [03:28] Hey guys, can somebody give me a hand? I am currently running of the live portion of a dvd for the 64-bit AMD version of Ubuntu. And as I am trying to install the operating sytem to the second partition of my hard drive, I am getting a "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu." error. I have my single hard drive partitioned in 4 parts. With one 30gb for Vista, and two 10gb partitions for Ubuntu and [03:40] anybody else having issues with Intel HDA card with the latest updates [03:42] Raspberry> everything else, but that.:) [03:42] hmm [03:43] well I'm guessing it was some update since installing Alpha4 [03:43] * heret1c peers at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule [03:44] this is a weird problem [03:44] ebcause everything works fine [03:44] except the sound [03:44] the alsa loads [03:44] the mixers show the sound going through [03:44] * Raspberry goes to crawl under the desk [03:45] a zero volume setting somewhere? [03:45] gnome or kde? [03:45] gnome [03:45] I went through the mixer [03:46] h'm. [03:46] master sloder on max or 90%? [03:46] slider [03:48] maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems can help. [03:48] max in the alsamixer or in the gui? [03:49] all. [03:49] but max often hives distortion. use around 90. [03:50] ALSA was replaced by PulseAudio as far as I recall. [03:50] Might want to look into that. [03:50] unless toy're aspiring for a berth in Spinal Tap ... ;-) [03:50] hmm [03:51] well it was working with Alpha4 -- so I'll have to see what changed in the last Kernel update [03:51] maybe going back to -4 instead of -8 that'd do it [03:54] so why'd they replace alsa with pulse [03:55] we just got alsa stable :P [03:55] none of the palse stuff was installed [03:56] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> is the only firefox include in hardy gonna be firefox3? [03:56] i'd hope so [03:57] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> so how do u guys get the acroread and mplayer plugin working with firefox3? [03:57] put the plugins in the /plugins directory [03:57] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> i did [03:57] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> not work [03:57] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> the only thing works is flash [03:58] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> i ll try again i guess [03:59] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> but firefox3 is still in beta-rc1 right? [03:59] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> or by april it gonna be final when hardy release [04:02] hmm [04:02] pulse isn't working either [04:03] I don't think this is a hardware problem [04:03] but I don't neccessarily think it's a linux issue :P [04:10] intresting :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/183364 [04:10] Launchpad bug 183364 in alsa-driver "[hardy] lost sound when upgraded from 2.6.24-3-generic to 2.6.24-4-generic" [Low,Fix released] [04:11] Sadly enough, the -5 revision didn't include it. Now the the 2.6.24 kernel is officially out, I hope we'll soon have a stable package and be able to enjoy music again. [04:11] :P [04:12] apparently the fix is to suspend the computer ... then unsuspend and sound starts working :P [04:14] bug or feature? [04:14] this is a total bug [04:15] 8-) [04:15] for over a month apparently :P [04:16] hah [04:16] dma on my lt hasn't worked since Dapper. [04:17] mesns hd stuff is 8-10 times slower. [04:30] DMA disabled on device MATSHITA - CDRW/DVD UJDA740 [04:30] With most modern CD/DVD devices enabling DMA highly increases read/write performance. If you experience very low writing speeds this is probably the cause. [04:30] Solution: Enable DMA temporarily as root with 'hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc'. [04:31] /dev/hdc: [04:31] setting using_dma to 1 (on) [04:31] HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted [04:31] using_dma = 0 (off) [04:34] there needs to be a better explaination of these packages in ubuntu [04:34] so we know the date they were comiited [04:34] no commitment date: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sound/alsa-base [04:34] so I have no way to tell if it's been updated recently and it's what caused my problem [04:35] anyone ever heard of logging in with kdm and instead of logging in you get a black screen and x restarts? How to fix? [04:36] need to tell the person who wrote the build-bot. (timestamp = reqired field". Or something. [04:38] I can find out when the updated backages were added, but I have to find that by going through te change logs [04:38] typically you'd think date updated/ changed would be something you'd want to know [04:38] yesh. [04:45] I can't downgrade alsa-base w/synaptic either [04:45] force version isn't available for that package [04:46] * heret1c observes, "thee's some way to go before Ubuntu can be considered suitable for the casual user" [04:51] heret1c: Have you tried to use sudo with it? I know it is a bit of a stupid question. [04:52] trel> that's "yes" and "yes". :) [04:53] Interesting about DMA [04:53] Looks like a hdparm and/or kernel issue. [04:53] heret1c: run the 'lspci -v' command, from the output try to find the name/vendor of the IDE interface chip: [04:54] the IDE HD is designated "sda". [04:54] heret1c: http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:K8qXPy2W-QkJ:www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/hdparm-d1-devhda-gives-me-hdiosetdma-failed-operation-not-permitted-260894/+HDIO_SET_DMA+failed:+Operation+not+permitted&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a [04:55] The sudo question may have been a bit basic, but it is always best to assume the most common cause first and then go from there. [04:55] yeah. [04:56] assumptions is the mother etc. [04:57] Did you find which controller chipset you are using? [04:58] Intel Corp 82801DBM (ICH4-M) [05:00] bog standard, afaik. [05:03] The general consensus on the mailing lists appears to be the cdrom drive itself being the cause. [05:07] Top 168 results of at least 4,484 retrieved for the query dma sda hda hdparm [05:08] since few report such problems, multiply by a factor of at least 10. [05:09] You can file a bug about it at the launchpad.net website. That might lead to some more investigation and a possible fix. [05:09] by that yardstick, the ubuntu devel team ignores 45000 users. [05:10] bug is filed. [05:10] noot by me, sbdy else. [05:11] Which bug? [05:11] the ubuntu-thinks-ide-is-scsi- bug. [05:12] heret1c: That remains not a bug :) [05:13] * slackern chases his isp down for changing his firmware to a 8/1 for no reason =/ [05:13] ag, it applies to other distros as well. [05:13] heret1c: Because it is the (new) intended behaviour. [05:14] raof> really? [05:14] Yes, really. [05:14] Because SCSI was the first subsystem to be decently generic, the generic disc access layer comes from there. [05:15] And you build libata on top of that, and your actual _drivers_ on top of libata. [05:15] As I understand it. Particular details may be wrong/misrepresented. [05:15] * heret1c nods [05:15] However, the take home message is: "sooner or later, all your drives will be handled by something built on the SCSI system". [05:16] /dev/sd? is teh futu0r! [05:16] this is not a Hardy issue but really need some help with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56446/ and I think there are probably a few people better suited in here [05:21] raof> I think the crux is that I cannot enable dma on neither hd or dvd, and suffer a speed penalty of 10-15 x [05:21] as a result. [05:21] heret1c: Right. So, the real bug is that DMA is not enabled by default on those drives. [05:22] raof> is under dapper. [05:22] So it's probably fixed by a new kernel. And worrying about Dapper bugs in #ubuntu+1 is not particularly productive :P [05:23] * heret1c runs hardy. [05:23] Lets see how this upgrade works then :) [05:24] heret1c: Oh. So what you meant was "DMA is enabled by default in Dapper". [05:24] heret1c: Have you filed a bug? [05:24] slackern> pending dixed dependencies. [05:24] raof> spot on. [05:24] (Because if it's not on Launchpad, the kernel team won't know it exists) [05:25] it's there. [05:25] heret1c: had it installed earlier and it upgraded/ran fine, hope it works just as smooth this time too :) [05:26] Maybe i should rip this old wifi card out of my pfsense machine to see how it works in 8.04 too and give the new networkmanager a peek === der0b\ is now known as der0b [05:41] strange... new GPRS setup feature of network-manager have not field to enter phone number which i should call [05:41] *have no [05:43] its *99***1#, maybe it is default number for all gprs networks and network manager will call it? [05:44] plus, i required to enter special init command, and network manager not allow it either [05:57] slackern> crash? [05:57] Heretic43, Nah just reboot, in hardy now playing music and everything back as normal :) [05:58] heh [05:58] * Heretic43 plays music as well (shoutcast) [05:58] Took a little while to install, my isp managed to downgrade the firmware on my cablemodem so down to 8/1 speed instead of 50/2 :P [05:59] himy screen resolution is not saved betwen sesions, [05:59] any ideea? [06:00] I only have two issues; dma, and the one topic sez not to discuss (unmet you-know-what) [06:01] Now i just want the radeonhd drivers :) [06:03] simi> ah, add that to my issues. fixed it with KRandRTray. methinks. [06:04] slackern> tried using the windoze one? [06:04] restricted driver [06:06] worked with my wifi stick. driver off w. cdrom. [06:06] Heretic43, Aye, slight problems with my X1950Pro AGP card on a Nvidia chipset though, So versions 7.7/7.8/7.9/7.10/7.11/7.12/8.01 doesn't work on my card since there are problems somewhere but now that they finally fixed it in windows it's still not working in *nix with the latest fglrx driver from them, tried both repos and their official one, just leaves me with a black screen and a lockup [06:07] ah [06:07] Heretic43, But since they found the issue in the Windows drivers now i got a little more hope for them nailing the issues in *nix for me === Heretic43 is now known as heret1c [06:08] heret1c, been using the radeonhd opensource driver that they are developing mostly now, about same performance as vesa but it's good since i could provide som feedback for better support for this card atleast :) [06:08] slacker> aho. [06:10] slackern: Seen airlied's talk at LCA? It's on the web, is called "bringing kittens back to life", and he talks a bit about radeon vs radeonhd. [06:11] RAOF, hmm no i missed that, will go have a look [06:12] haha first hit on google for LCA kittens :P [06:12] slackern: The impression I got from watching it was "use radeon, it works better" :) [06:12] for now anyway [06:12] RAOF, ahh yes but radeon doesn't support my newer card =/ [06:12] Maybe it needs a newer radeon than we've got :) [06:13] RAOF, Yes i saw some talk about it in #radeonhd guess they are taking the best from both drivers and working on it at the same time or something like that [06:14] radeonhd still has alot of work in it since it started from scratch not so long ago [06:15] Indeed. [06:15] * RAOF is going to have to try to duplicate his end-of-talk demo on his laptop. [06:21] Hm [06:21] does the fglrx driver support your newer card? [06:23] sorry was on phone, friends car broke down ^^, It's a X1950 card and it says it support the X1900 series so it should, i can get it running with certain versions but 3d is just a dream [06:23] or any kind of acceleration [06:24] Heretic43: how did you fix the resolution not beeing saved? KRandRTray sounds like KDE applet, i am using ubuntu with gnome [06:25] simi> for all I know, it works with the gnome panel. not sure. [06:26] can someone wise in the ways of dpkg cast an expert eye at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56449/ ? [06:26] Trel, If i try the binary driver it even shows the card as compatible with the drivers and supported but i guess it'll work out sooner or later just as it did with the windows driver, they managed to get a working driver there only this month since the 2007-07 driver on my combination of hardware [06:28] think i'll compile the radeonhd driver and give it a go in hardy :) [06:29] heret1c: but what it does in fact? edit something? i seen that xorg.conf has changed a lot [06:29] hmm [06:30] simi> lets u set res, refresh, orientation, etc. [06:32] how can I downgrade the alsa-driver package in hardy [06:32] erk [06:32] i should ask -- is there a recommended way to do it :) [06:32] alsa* 1.0.16 is crap [06:33] need to go back to a .15 rev [06:33] but I'm having trouble finding the older packages anywhere [06:34] I tried building my own modules, but that didn't help since they were built with 1.0.16 [06:34] its not how system work, it work by increasing numbers, not decreasing :/ [06:35] * heret1c can't proceed without the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56449/ thing being fixed. [06:35] wow [06:35] that looks fun :P [06:35] Raspberry: huh? How is it "crap"? Unless you're manually compiling alsa-source, there shouldn't be a problem, as the alsa-driver source only generates linux-sound-base and alsa-base debs for use by default. [06:36] the topic is very useful to read BEFORE one installs hardy, AFTER it's somewhat moot. [06:36] it's fine that it's broken [06:37] but typically with a debian based OS you can downgrade packages [06:37] I can reinstall Hardy and just freeze the alsa packages from updating [06:38] the alsa mixer works and it acts like it's playing the sound [06:38] but nothing comes out of the speakers [06:38] Are you referring to the drivers themselves as shipped by default in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-8-generic? [06:38] it works off the live CD [06:38] the Alpha4 live Cd [06:38] but after running the updates it doesn't work whether with Kernel -5 or -8 [06:39] I did a module-assistant build and install of the alsa drivers and that didn't fix the issue [06:39] and it didn't work prior to that -- so I'd assume it's with the alsa code itself [06:39] of current hardy? You don't have the latest ones that I uploaded. [06:39] the ones I uploaded last week are queued for archive admin approval and should appear early this week. [06:40] ok -- where can I get them? :) [06:40] i checked pre-release [06:40] and they're weren't any available up there yet eihter [06:40] the source should be available from LP if you want to grab the diff.gz and dsc [06:40] it's basically this issue, but it isn't limited to kernel 2.6.24-3 and 4 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/183364https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/183364 [06:40] Launchpad bug 183364 in alsa-driver "[hardy] lost sound when upgraded from 2.6.24-3-generic to 2.6.24-4-generic" [Low,Fix released] [06:40] btw anyone else notice any kind of "stuttering" while playing music? [06:41] Raspberry: I need to know "lspci -nv|grep -A1 040[13]" [06:41] slackern: that's much too vague. What type of file, what application, what audio card, etc. [06:41] 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:284b (rev 03) [06:41] Subsystem: 17aa:20ac [06:42] slackern> playing from what medium? [06:42] crimsun_, oh sorry, just did an upgrade and while moving windows and such i get a stutter in the sound while playing mp3's in rhythmbox [06:43] Maybe i should add that this is from a NTFS partition also [06:43] er, dma? [06:43] Raspberry: are you using any model? [06:43] Raspberry: e.g., options snd-hda-intel model=foo [06:43] heret1c, It's a SATA drive if that matters [06:43] not that I'm aware of no [06:43] Raspberry: please confirm that you are(n't). [06:44] slackern: with compiz enabled or disabled? [06:44] /ne hazards http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56449/ again (dpkg hell) [06:44] crimsun_, disabled, using the radeonhd driver with shadowfb acceleration only [06:45] crimsun_: in my alsa-base... options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 [06:45] slackern: is the same symptom reproducible when you're only logged into a tty and using gst-launch playbin ..? [06:45] crimsun_, It's not all the time, happens when i least expect it or how i should explain, now that im trying to do it again im failing miserably [06:45] slackern> er, w8... [06:45] Raspberry: not relevant; you're using snd-hda-intel [06:45] i don't even see that listed in the modprobe.d/alsa-base [06:46] Raspberry: correct, it shouldn't be. === DarthShr2ne is now known as DarthShrine [06:46] crimsun_, I'll have to try that, should it be without X running? [06:46] Raspberry: which ThinkPad/Lenovo model? [06:47] slackern: correct, which means you need to reproduce the symptom solely through ALSA. [06:47] slackern> what happens if you do >sudo hdparm -d1 dev/hda ? [06:47] crimsun_: X61T 776298U [06:47] heret1c, HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device [06:48] Never been able to set DMA for SATA though i belive [06:48] Only got /dev/sda on this machine [06:48] crimsun_: where would I find the options line -- I would have thought it'd be in the alsa-base file in modprobe.d [06:49] Raspberry: there should /not/ be one by default for snd-hda-intel [06:49] crimsun_: there isn't [06:51] Raspberry: I would wait until alsa-source 1.0.16-0ubuntu2 is available [06:51] Raspberry: please use "sudo m-a clean,a-i alsa-source" after it is upgraded [06:51] that's listed as the current version [06:51] ...which may be in a few hours. It has already built and is available, according to LP. [06:52] yeah :) [06:52] I'll just cleanup my alsa build mess now [06:52] since there's no sound [06:52] if you're really, really hard up, use http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12033371/alsa-source_1.0.16-0ubuntu2_all.deb [06:53] I appreciate your help [06:53] if it's still not audible by default after rebuilding and rebooting, please file a bug report and ping me with the bug report # here. [06:54] I have only intermittent e-mail access, so giving me heads-up here on IRC with all the relevant info is much more efficient. [06:54] with that said, I'm off to sleep. [06:54] thanks again [07:00] 'morning dana. [07:00] * heret1c assumes [07:01] or is it 'noon? :-) [07:11] I'm in Pacific timezone, so it's 11 PM here. [07:21] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56449/ [07:21] anyone have similar experiences? [07:33] does alt-tab supposed to work for switching to desktop from full-screen game? cut it seems not working and this cause problems, if game is locked for example some way [07:34] alt-f4 to close games dosnt work too... [07:35] anyone using amd64 here? [07:35] another problem if when game is cause X to kind of freeze, it looses full-screen, but continue to run, and keyboard stop working [07:36] mouse too [07:36] i loosing my data this way, cuz i required to restart X cuz game locked it [07:37] zqw2: which game? [07:38] with compiz enabled it happens with all 3d games with some time of playing [07:38] with disabled it is just happened with urban terror but never happened with other games, freezes i mean [07:38] but i may have similiar issues [07:39] like game not setting refresh rate correclty and monitor switched off [07:39] itself [07:40] and i cant quit game, and cannot switch from it [07:42] Try to VT-switch to a console and 'killall' it. [07:44] well X still stays in incorrect refresh rate stance with this resolution, i have another workaround for this, like change videomode ctrl-alt-+/- but its just workaround [07:44] not tried that with urban terror [07:44] anyone using amd64 here? [07:44] slytherin: Yep [07:45] i want ability to swich to desktop [07:45] Trel: Can you tell me what is output of 'uname -m'? [07:45] and closing games [07:46] 2.6.24-8-generic [07:47] Trel: No, you did unsame -r, Iwant uname -m [07:47] x86_64 [07:47] Ah [07:47] Right hen [07:47] x86_64 [07:48] Trel: Raspberry: thanks [08:50] dammit.. when are they gonna update the repositories. its stuck on partial update since eons now [08:51] Assid: What do you mean by partial updates? [08:51] is there still a bad link with the nvidia drivers? ... [08:57] http://picpaste.com/screen.jpg [08:57] i cant enable any off those applications from there [09:00] its crazy man [09:00] ive been waiting since ages [09:03] Assid: Which repository are yu using? 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