[03:20] <koolkat> hello?
[03:20] <koolkat> I NEED TO TALK TO SOMEONE
[03:21] <koolkat> How do I become a Documentation Member?
[03:24] <nixternal> if you would have stayed a minute longer, I would have told him
[03:24] <nixternal> man, I talked to him yesterday about MOTU, this guy really wants to help
[03:25] <Flannel> He's still around, query him
[03:26] <nixternal> ya, talking to him in #ubuntu-devel
[03:26] <nixternal> he is coming now
[03:26] <nixternal> right now!
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> and
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> ......
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> now!
[03:26] <nixternal> man, I stink
[03:26] <koolkat> Hello
[03:26] <nixternal> damn, 3 seconds off :)
[03:27] <nixternal> koolkat: you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[03:27] <koolkat> Ubuntu
[03:27] <nixternal> familiar with DocBook/XML?
[03:27] <nixternal> familiar with Bazaar?
[03:27] <koolkat> uhhh....no
[03:27] <nixternal> OK, can you do HTML?
[03:27] <koolkat> no(again)
[03:27] <koolkat> Yes
[03:27] <koolkat> Some
[03:27] <nixternal> great, so DocBook/XML should be easy to pick up
[03:28]  * koolkat wonders what your talking about
[03:28] <koolkat> why?
[03:28] <nixternal> Bazaar is similar to Subversion
[03:28] <koolkat> So...that are you talking about :-?
[03:28] <nixternal> well, we code all of our documentation in DocBook/XML, and all of our code lies within a Bazaar repository on Launchpad
[03:28] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DocumentationTeam
[03:28] <koolkat> Oh...I know how to do the Doc stuff
[03:29] <nixternal> that has some good information on how to get involved
[03:29] <koolkat> I already did like 20 today
[03:29] <nixternal> groovy
[03:29] <koolkat> so .....how do they make me a member?
[03:30] <nixternal> sign up on the documentation team mailing list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
[03:30] <koolkat> are you a member?
[03:30] <koolkat> Ok
[03:30] <nixternal> well, you have to contribute for a while before you become a member
[03:30] <nixternal> yes, myself and jjesse who isn't around maintain all of the Kubuntu and KDE documentation
[03:31] <koolkat> you want to slip in a few good word for me.....wink wink
[03:31] <nixternal> the head people for the Ubuntu side are mdke, who is obviously sleeping right now, and Phil Bull, who I don't see on IRC much, but he is all over the mailing list
[03:31] <nixternal> well, gotta see your work first
[03:32] <nixternal> there are student memberships available, and if you ask about it on the mailing list, Phil will probably fill you in on that team info
[03:32] <koolkat> my work.....I am doing a lot in the applications list...and
[03:32] <koolkat> i cant remember
[03:33] <koolkat> what i wasgoing to say
[03:33] <nixternal> well, if it is Gnome related, there is a 99.9% chance I will rarely see your work
[03:34] <nixternal> and Phil should have a list of jobs available either now or fairly soon for Ubuntu 8.04 documentation
[03:36] <koolkat> nixternal: i subscribed to the mailing list
[03:37] <nixternal> groovy
[03:37] <nixternal> it isn't all that high traffic, so it is easy to keep up with
[03:37] <koolkat> anything else that i should do?
[03:38] <nixternal> familiarize yourself with docbook, bazaar, and some of the things mentioned on the wiki page and you should be good to go
[03:38] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyReleaseSchedule
[03:38] <nixternal> always good to know the release schedule for this cycle as well
[03:39] <koolkat> So how do I get notice by mdke or Phill Bull?
[03:40] <nixternal> contribute patches to the mailing list for any projects they may have
[03:40] <koolkat> my username on the doc stuff is aakashpatel
[03:41] <koolkat> i dont know why just said that
[03:41] <koolkat> but there you go
[03:42] <nixternal> hehe, no prob, thanks
[03:42] <koolkat> how does this look? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl/simple
[03:43] <nixternal> nice, clean, and simple..just the way we like it :)
[03:44] <koolkat> good....:-)
[03:45] <koolkat> Is this the page to list all of the software availibe for ubuntu? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Software
[03:46] <koolkat> Becase i just added like 8 programs
[03:46] <nixternal> I guess so
[03:47] <nixternal> first I have noticed that page before honestly
[03:47] <koolkat> have or havent?
[03:48] <nixternal> I haven't seen it before
[03:48] <koolkat> ok
[03:49] <koolkat> so what do you write in
[03:49] <koolkat> what sections?
[03:49] <nixternal> I haven't been on the community wiki in a while actually
[03:50] <koolkat> but isnt that where Im supposed to start?
[03:50] <nixternal> I have been spending a lot of time with Kubuntu and KDE development that documentation has been on a back burner for me here lately...gotta change that though
[03:50] <nixternal> koolkat: yes
[03:50] <koolkat> where should "I" start?
[03:51] <koolkat> in ubuntu
[03:51] <nixternal> I always say "scratch your itch"...fix things that relate to you, work on things that relate to you..therefore making it easier on you
[03:52] <koolkat> Ok
[03:52] <nixternal> there are so many places to start in Ubuntu....documentation, user support in #ubuntu, bug triage, packaging, there is even some marketing and LoCo team stuff as well
[03:55] <koolkat> what does LoCo do?
[03:59] <nixternal> Local Community Team...they do advocation for Ubuntu and other types of work locally within your home community
[04:02] <koolkat> do you have a linksys router?
[04:03] <nixternal> Cisco
[04:04] <koolkat> I thought they only make those expensive ones.
[04:04] <nixternal> I tend to stay away from the consumer products, plus I got my PIX 501 for free
[04:04] <koolkat> how?
[04:05] <nixternal> a friend of mine
[04:06] <koolkat> oh
[04:10] <koolkat> i got to go
[07:56] <mdke> morning all
[11:47] <Lhademmor> hi
[12:16] <Lhademmor> HI!
[12:25] <Lhademmor> arh, screw this