| mon^rch | need help with manually editing my t-bird profile and adding the news server (program bugged and wont add it via gui) ubuntu feisty | 01:33 |
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| mon^rch | which file do I edit please? | 01:34 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | hi | 09:02 |
| [reed] | woo, my new laptop will be here today | 09:29 |
| asac | great! | 09:38 |
| asac | [reed]: what kind? | 09:38 |
| [reed] | ThinkPad X61 | 09:39 |
| [reed] | portable laptop to go with my current ThinkPad T60p | 09:39 |
| [reed] | asac: ^ | 09:42 |
| asac | sounds great | 09:46 |
| asac | what screen resolution? | 09:46 |
| [reed] | not sure yet | 09:52 |
| [reed] | I'll find out when I get it! | 09:52 |
| hellboy195 | asac: norsetto said maybe it's a sync if the buid dep on ff isn't necessary | 11:38 |
| asac | hellboy195: what about the gtk deprecated patch? i stha tin debian as well? | 11:39 |
| hellboy195 | asac: yep | 11:39 |
| hellboy195 | asac: otherwise we couldn't say it's maybe a sync ^^ | 11:39 |
| asac | anyway, iceweasel provides x-www-browser as well ... the dependency exists just as an explicit tie-break rule afaik | 11:40 |
| asac | i would keep the diff | 11:40 |
| hellboy195 | asac: cool, thx for you help :) | 11:41 |
| asac | np | 11:41 |
| hellboy195 | Thanks again and bye @ all :) | 11:45 |
| Ubulette | hi | 18:23 |
| asac | hi | 18:28 |
| * asac out shopping | 18:28 | |
| asac | back for a while | 18:56 |
| Ubulette | Failed to fetch http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch | 20:27 |
| Ubulette | Failed to fetch http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/dists/hardy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch | 20:27 |
| Ubulette | Failed to fetch http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch | 20:27 |
| Ubulette | retrying... | 20:28 |
| Ubulette | good | 20:38 |
| Ubulette | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/4731/ | 20:44 |
| Ubulette | (just FYI) | 20:44 |
| asac | Ubulette: which commit? | 21:03 |
| asac | Fix for bug 403240 - threads hanging in nss_InitLock . r=wtc,nelson | 21:04 |
| asac | mozilla bug 403240 | 21:04 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 403240 in Libraries "threads hanging in nss_InitLock" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=403240 | 21:04 |
| asac | wow that looks like a glitch | 21:06 |
| asac | hmm ... was secoid_init present in nss 3.11? | 21:10 |
| Ubulette | just look at the diff. it was in b3 | 21:22 |
| asac | 3.11 ;) | 21:25 |
| Ubulette | ? | 21:27 |
| asac | i was wondering if that symbol was in 3.11 | 21:27 |
| asac | or if that is just 3.12 development noise | 21:28 |
| Ubulette | i guess the later | 21:28 |
| asac | i hope so :) | 21:28 |
| [reed] | so | 21:32 |
| [reed] | I have my new laptop | 21:32 |
| [reed] | should I try Hardy, or am I better off with Gutsy for now? | 21:32 |
| asac | i'd say hardy | 21:34 |
| asac | latest daily CD ;9 | 21:34 |
| [reed] | why? | 21:34 |
| [reed] | give me a good reason :) | 21:34 |
| asac | dunno ... i think there is ffox 3 on it ;) | 21:34 |
| [reed] | I don't use your firefox anyway :p | 21:35 |
| asac | nevertheless, otherwise you get firefox 2 ;) | 21:35 |
| [reed] | your firefox is the first thing to go | 21:35 |
| [reed] | :) | 21:35 |
| [reed] | replaced with my local copy | 21:35 |
| asac | thats a bad start ;) | 21:36 |
| asac | its good to rest half a day after install and honour the pure distribution feeling | 21:37 |
| asac | then move on | 21:37 |
| [reed] | lol | 21:38 |
| asac | start messing around | 21:38 |
| Ubulette | i'd go for hardy too. why would you want an obsolete desktop on your brand new hardware ? | 21:39 |
| Ubulette | hm bzr broken :( | 21:39 |
| Ubulette | http://paste.ubuntu.com/4737/ | 21:40 |
| asac | Ubulette: you should use bzr.dev branch ;) | 21:40 |
| Ubulette | it's my bot | 21:40 |
| asac | the package is frequently an annoyance ;) | 21:40 |
| [reed] | I just don't want to be screwed | 21:41 |
| [reed] | by some hardy problem | 21:41 |
| asac | [reed]: use livecd ... if that works, then install most likely will be good as well | 21:41 |
| asac | [reed]: so what screen solution do you have? | 21:51 |
| [reed] | looks like 1024x768, but that doesn't seem right... it's a 12.1" screen | 21:52 |
| Ubulette | that's small | 21:53 |
| [reed] | well, it's supposed to be my portable laptop | 21:53 |
| [reed] | :) | 21:53 |
| [reed] | I have my large 15" ThinkPad T60p if I want 1600x1200 | 21:53 |
| asac | i 1024x768 is the default for think pads (12 inch) | 21:54 |
| asac | thats why i am still not sure ;) | 21:54 |
| asac | there are 12 inch laptops with 1280x860 ?? or something like that | 21:54 |
| jcastro | my hp has 1280x860 or whatever | 22:24 |
| jcastro | the thinkpad X series are the ones stuck on 1024x768. :( | 22:25 |
| Ubulette | asac, did you ask for daily builds in ppa ? | 22:29 |
| Lisetare | Hi i am sorry to bother you with my question, but i couldn't find solution for my problem. I don't have any sound during surfing net, for example in youtube - video plays without sound. I have installed restricted extras package and flashplayer. What could be my problem? | 22:34 |
| asac | Lisetare: does your sound work at all? | 22:35 |
| Lisetare | yup, in all other programs sound works great (ogg and mp3 and any other possible formats) | 22:35 |
| asac | Ubulette: i don't think i have .... added to my whiteboard TODO list again | 22:36 |
| asac | Lisetare: start firefox from the command line ... maybe you see some errors that give a hint | 22:36 |
| Lisetare | ok let me try | 22:36 |
| Lisetare | nothing, it just open firefox and nothing else | 22:38 |
| Lisetare | also i've tried to reinstall flash plug-in by terminal - it also didn't help | 22:39 |
| asac | no idea then ... try #ubuntu or the forums. they are more focussed on user support and might be aware of more corner cases where this happens. | 22:40 |
| Lisetare | have tried #ubuntu, they have no clue. ok maybe in forum someone will help. | 22:41 |
| cheguevara | search the forums | 22:42 |
| asac | yeah content on forum sticks a bit longer on radar | 22:42 |
| cheguevara | its a common problem for flashto have no sound | 22:42 |
| cheguevara | *flash to | 22:42 |
| Ubulette | looks like the device is busy (either /dev/audio or /dev/dsp). | 22:42 |
| Ubulette | do you use esd ? | 22:42 |
| asac | yeah, but busy device would be dumped to terminal afaik | 22:42 |
| Ubulette | btw, is it hardy or gutsy ? | 22:42 |
| Lisetare | 7.10 | 22:42 |
| Ubulette | ok so esound is still used. try to "killall esd" and restart firefox | 22:43 |
| Lisetare | when i use alsa - it says device is busy but it affects all system. so i chose AD 198x analog | 22:43 |
| Lisetare | it says process wasn't killed | 22:44 |
| Ubulette | hm, if you start it (esd), does it help ? | 22:44 |
| Ubulette | i mean, start esd before ff | 22:45 |
| asac | esd never did anything good for me | 22:45 |
| Lisetare | no :( | 22:46 |
| asac | and you don't have sound server enabled in sound config? | 22:46 |
| Ubulette | depends a lot on the sound card. some don't even need sound daemons as they are able to share in h/w | 22:46 |
| asac | last i heard is that esd it complete crap | 22:47 |
| asac | we only keep it for some obscure reason | 22:47 |
| Lisetare | i don't know what is sound server :( i am blonde in linux completely | 22:47 |
| asac | Lisetare: in sound config | 22:47 |
| asac | system -> preferences -> sound | 22:47 |
| asac | there is a tab "Sound" ... ther is checkbox that enables sound server (in hardy it reads: Enable sofware sound mixing (ESD)) | 22:48 |
| asac | i think in gutsy it should read different | 22:48 |
| Lisetare | it is on there | 22:48 |
| asac | maybe disable it then | 22:48 |
| asac | and restart X (relogin) | 22:48 |
| asac | maybe it even works without relogin | 22:49 |
| Lisetare | no :( again doesn't help | 22:49 |
| Lisetare | relogin... ok let me try | 22:49 |
| Lisetare | no it doesn't help :( also i forget to say - sometimes firefox stops even when i start to play any sound in web | 22:51 |
| Ubulette | what does this command gives you ? lsof -np `pidof firefox` | grep dev | 22:52 |
| Lisetare | lsof: no process ID specified | 22:53 |
| Lisetare | lsof 4.78 | 22:53 |
| Lisetare | latest revision: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/ | 22:53 |
| Lisetare | latest FAQ: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ | 22:53 |
| Lisetare | latest man page: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man | 22:53 |
| asac | firefox-bin | 22:54 |
| cheguevara | you can try this | 22:54 |
| cheguevara | sudo aptitude install alsa-oss | 22:54 |
| cheguevara | sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc | 22:54 |
| cheguevara | and then put FIREFOX_DSP=”aoss” in there | 22:55 |
| cheguevara | might need to log out and log back in or reboot | 22:55 |
| Lisetare | without logging out it didn't help | 22:56 |
| cheguevara | yeah you might need to reboot or log out | 22:57 |
| Lisetare | щл цуте ащк куищщештп | 22:58 |
| Lisetare | ok went for rebooting | 22:58 |
| Lisetare | (sorry) | 22:58 |
| cheguevara | cyrillic :) | 22:58 |
| Lisetare | yup | 22:58 |
| cheguevara | you russian? | 22:58 |
| Lisetare | da | 22:58 |
| Lisetare | yes i mean :) | 22:58 |
| cheguevara | yasno :P | 22:58 |
| Lisetare | in russian channel nobody help and all clever russian sit here :) | 22:59 |
| cheguevara | Lisetare, zvuka tol'ko vo flashe net ili voobshe vo vsem browsere? | 22:59 |
| Lisetare | tolko vo fleshe | 23:00 |
| cheguevara | Lisetare, yasno, perezagruzis' poprobui, potom posmotrim | 23:00 |
| Lisetare | ok | 23:00 |
| cheguevara | personallyall my sound on hardy disappeared with one of the kernel updates | 23:01 |
| cheguevara | completely... | 23:02 |
| asac | Lisetare: if flashplugin-nonfree package doesn't work, you can also try mozilla-plugin-gnash :) | 23:05 |
| Lisetare | woow thanks it helped :) thanks-thanks-thanks | 23:05 |
| cheguevara | :P | 23:05 |
| asac | thats not perfect, but maybe youtube woirks then :) | 23:05 |
| asac | Lisetare: what did you do? | 23:05 |
| cheguevara | not perfect is an under-estimation :P | 23:05 |
| Lisetare | everything i need works :) thanks a lot. | 23:05 |
| Lisetare | i did those commands... changed in firefox none to alsa or something like this... even i didn't understand good what i did | 23:06 |
| cheguevara | <cheguevara> sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc | 23:06 |
| cheguevara | <cheguevara> and then put FIREFOX_DSP=”aoss” in there | 23:06 |
| cheguevara | <cheguevara> might need to log out and log back in or reboot | 23:06 |
| cheguevara | this :P | 23:06 |
| Lisetare | exactly :D | 23:07 |
| asac | ah | 23:07 |
| cheguevara | and <cheguevara> sudo aptitude install alsa-oss before that | 23:07 |
| asac | ok | 23:07 |
| asac | who needs sound ;) | 23:07 |
| Lisetare | alsa oss was installed though | 23:07 |
| asac | Lisetare: maybe that was the initial reason then? | 23:07 |
| asac | oss is deprecated | 23:07 |
| asac | or is it installed by default? | 23:07 |
| cheguevara | asac, but things will use alsa directly by default | 23:07 |
| cheguevara | so having it installed changes nothing | 23:07 |
| cheguevara | but on some computers it helps when firefox uses alsa's oss compatibility layer | 23:08 |
| cheguevara | for some reason | 23:08 |
| asac | yeah ... maybe flash doesn't even work with alsa | 23:08 |
| asac | would be in line ;) | 23:08 |
| Lisetare | i installed ubuntu yesterday and i don't know why at first it didn't want to look for packages in repositariums | 23:08 |
| Lisetare | so at first i installed many packages by myself | 23:08 |
| asac | ah ok | 23:08 |
| Lisetare | well anyway thanks. Sorry for bothering you | 23:09 |
| Lisetare | wish i ever knew linux as much as you do | 23:09 |
| Lisetare | :) | 23:09 |
| cheguevara | np :P | 23:09 |
| cheguevara | thanks for trying to fix your problems and not giving up like some do :P | 23:10 |
| Lisetare | well... it is kinda my dream now to be first blonde who learn ubuntu :D | 23:10 |
| cheguevara | haha | 23:10 |
| cheguevara | we don't get many girls around here anyway :P | 23:11 |
| Lisetare | i want to work in telecom company, it is actually my specialty, but everywhere they need experience with gnu/*nix | 23:11 |
| cheguevara | ah right | 23:12 |
| cheguevara | Lisetare, which town is that? | 23:12 |
| cheguevara | peter? | 23:12 |
| cheguevara | *piter | 23:12 |
| Lisetare | aha how you guess? | 23:13 |
| cheguevara | i have my ways :P | 23:14 |
| cheguevara | but | 23:15 |
| cheguevara | its good to see that open source software is doing good back home | 23:15 |
| cheguevara | haven't been there in 4 years now :( | 23:15 |
| cheguevara | there = Russia | 23:15 |
| Lisetare | where do you live now? | 23:16 |
| cheguevara | england | 23:16 |
| Lisetare | cool ) | 23:16 |
| cheguevara | miss it though :P | 23:17 |
| cheguevara | europe is too boring | 23:17 |
| cheguevara | Ubulette, whats new in your firefox packages from your ppa | 23:18 |
| === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette | ||
| Ubulette | nothing ubuntu specific, just bug fixes from upstream | 23:22 |
| cheguevara | oh so just a new snapshot | 23:22 |
| Ubulette | yes | 23:23 |
| cheguevara | sorry, updatemanager doesn't show from what version to what its updating anymore for some reason | 23:23 |
| Ubulette | yes, i find that really annoying | 23:23 |
| cheguevara | is it a bug or a feature? | 23:23 |
| Ubulette | don't know. apparently a feature | 23:24 |
| cheguevara | *sigh* | 23:24 |
| Ubulette | why do people keep confirming bug 192992 | 23:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 192992 in python-central "[hardy] pycentral crashed with ValueError in parse_versions()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192992 | 23:25 |
| cheguevara | bug 189406 | 23:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 189406 in update-manager "[Hardy] Update Manager doesn't display package versions anymore" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189406 | 23:26 |
| cheguevara | damn it | 23:28 |
| cheguevara | i just pressed install all updates | 23:28 |
| [reed] | see | 23:28 |
| cheguevara | bad timing Ubulette :P | 23:28 |
| [reed] | those are why I want gutsy | 23:28 |
| [reed] | :) | 23:28 |
| cheguevara | no breakage == no fun :P | 23:29 |
| cheguevara | funny how after feature freeze more things started breaking then before :P | 23:29 |
| Ubulette | i'll do only a third of today's update | 23:35 |
| cheguevara | damn wine is broken as well | 23:36 |
| armin76 | haha | 23:37 |
| armin76 | ricers :P | 23:37 |
| cheguevara | says the gentoo developer | 23:37 |
| cheguevara | :P | 23:37 |
| armin76 | gentoo is not ricing | 23:43 |
| cheguevara | armin76: but it makes ricing possible :P | 23:45 |
| armin76 | like hardy :P | 23:45 |
| cheguevara | hardy doesn't let you change your C/CXX/LD FLAGS | 23:46 |
| cheguevara | and it has a new upstream version freeze compared to ~x86 :P | 23:46 |
| armin76 | haha | 23:47 |
| armin76 | use x86 then :) | 23:47 |
| armin76 | probably the same versions as hardy | 23:48 |
| cheguevara | but then i don't get the latest version of everything | 23:48 |
| armin76 | then you are the ricer :P | 23:48 |
| cheguevara | i can't live like that | 23:48 |
| cheguevara | :P | 23:48 |
| armin76 | yeah, like what package? :P | 23:48 |
| cheguevara | glibc | 23:49 |
| cheguevara | lol | 23:49 |
| cheguevara | CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-ident -fweb -pipe -msse3" | 23:49 |
| cheguevara | LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu" | 23:49 |
| cheguevara | not too bad :P | 23:49 |
| cheguevara | armin76, do you remember that update to bash, which fucked up people's baselayout and the unlucky ones who rebooted ended up with a non bootable system? | 23:51 |
| armin76 | nope | 23:53 |
| cheguevara | thats was quiet bad | 23:53 |
| cheguevara | too be honest personally i never had a problem because of running unstable | 23:53 |
| cheguevara | may be i am just lucky | 23:53 |
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