[01:13] i hate being set up do you? [01:29] Hello everyone... I am new to Mythbuntu, switched from MythDora and am needing 2 issues resolved... [01:32] Is there anyone here that can help... I have been unable to resolve issues myself [01:32] !ask [01:32] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [01:33] Thanks... Using Mythbuntu 8.04 apha 2 [01:33] Cannot get the MythBackend setup... Getting error "cannot login". [01:33] so what have you done so far? [01:34] you when through and it copied everything [01:34] Trying to setup the password for Mysql: get error Password: NO [01:34] and the button at the end isn't working? [01:34] or you've already rebooted? [01:34] i've had mythbuntu 7.10 for about a week now, and my tv out keeps shutting off when I play some videos. my xorg.conf lists my monitor as "failsafe monitor" can anyone help! [01:35] Rebooted, followed the "troubleshooting" instructions to setup the mysql password... Lets just say I have been working on this for most of the afternoon and havent gotten any further. [01:35] MythbuntuGuest60, okay well for starters [01:35] did you change the password during install? [01:35] or leave it be [01:36] think I set a password. [01:36] okay so you set a root password then [01:36] but nothing more [01:36] right? [01:37] a root mysql password that is [01:37] yes, I did... Not the SU password [01:37] k, now did that have anything non alphanumeric? [01:37] (there is an ongoing bug related to that) [01:37] yes... using \\\\\\ [01:37] that's your issue [01:38] please reinstall without setting a root password (at least atm) [01:38] or set one with just alphanumeric characters [01:38] the internal code for setting the passwords currently doesn't properly escape a lot of characters [01:39] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 [01:39] set to home [01:39] there are other things that got touched [01:39] "home" [01:39] during install [01:39] that's why i was saying it'd be easier to just reinstall [01:40] so do a complete reinstall - when I get to the prompt to set root password leave blank? [01:40] that'd probably be the easiest route at this pint [01:40] just dont check that box for setting a root password for mysql [01:40] and then it will just go through [01:41] bug 160368 [01:41] that's the bug [01:41] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/160368 [01:42] So I do this correct... set login name and password [01:43] Should I check the box "MythTV Service? [01:43] that's up to you [01:43] that's if you have remote machines [01:43] that need to connect [01:44] That wont have an effect on Mysql.... Using Media MVP so I think I will need to enable that function "mythtv service [01:44] yeah [01:45] great, will give it another go! Might you have any information as to getting TV and Monitor working (Twinview/Clone) [01:45] open mcc after install [01:45] and pick the nvidia button [01:45] and there is a nice gui for it all [01:45] mcc? [01:46] !mcc [01:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about mcc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:46] mythbuntu control centre [01:46] you'll see after install [01:46] could someone look at my xorg.conf file and advise me. my tv out stopped working. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56438/ [01:47] Think I did that... Looks like I have another issue.. Will try after I get MythTV working. [01:47] THANKS FOR THE HELP! [01:47] np MythbuntuGuest60 good luck :) [01:47] tracer903, you're not using the proprietary driver [01:47] er yeah you are [01:47] but you did some weird stuff in that file [01:48] tracer903, open up mcc and pick the nvidia button [01:48] you should be able to reset it there [01:48] to do tv out [01:50] if i click on restricted drivers it says NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver in use [01:50] when i click on launch xorg.config, it won't do anything [01:51] tracer903, in mcc there is a special button for nvidia cards [01:51] that's the one you pick [01:52] what to do with people who thinks that they know what are my ambitions are and what i am about to do and if i even want to do my own thing i am trying to please them and made it up right there and right then? :D thank you [01:52] huh juliaet30 ? [01:53] yea, under propietary drivers, there is "Launch restricted drivers manager" "launch nvidia settings" and "launch xorg.config" [01:53] yeah launch nvidia settings [01:54] that's what i'm speaking of [01:54] Setting partitions and want to make sure this is correct; 10 gig (ext3, /) 2 gig (swap, NUL) 238 Gig (xfs, /var/lib) [01:54] yeah that sounds sane [01:55] it won't let me do anything under tv-0 [01:56] I often use WinSCP to connect to the mythbox (load movies, ect)... Do I set VNC Service or not [01:57] MythbuntuGuest60, something is broke with VNC in 8.04's alpha right now, so i wouldnt bother with it atm [01:57] it will be fixed eventually, but its a messy situation right now [01:58] tracer903, but you should be able to adjust which monitor its output to [01:58] and turn on and off different monitors from inside there [01:58] k, thanks... INSTALLING NOW> [02:00] superm1: trunk has storage groups right? [02:00] yes [02:00] ok, i got tv back up but now monitor is zoomed in [02:00] I wonder if I could use them to fix my network playback issue [02:00] tracer903, hit the save button and reboot. the behavior may change after you reboot [02:00] and nfs mount things, since they seem to play fine like that [02:01] well i've not considered doing a storage group on nfs [02:01] so i'm not sure how nicely that would work [02:01] unless you got a better idea? [02:01] i'm full of ideas, but better idea [02:01] i dunno [02:01] not really getting anywhere with it currently [02:01] fire away if you got something [02:02] cat5 [02:02] as i said before :) [02:02] booo :( [02:03] let me see if I have any long enough to do a test [02:03] wife isn't gonna like it though [02:07] RIGHT ON... Its alive!!! [02:08] thank you superml!!! [02:08] MythbuntuGuest60, please comment on that bug if you can to notate what it was that broke it for you [02:08] superm1, been playing with the resolution, I can't get both to display properly. one of them will be zoomed while the other will show entire desktop. I guess I'll save a reboot [02:09] which weird characters you used [02:09] no prob, where? [02:09] that bug i posted [02:09] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/160368 [02:16] logged comments... [02:17] superml, if I am using MediaMVP should I set the Local/Master Backend IP ADDRESS to the STATIC IP Address? [02:18] currently it is default 127.0.0.1 [02:22] MythbuntuGuest60, to your local address yeah === foxbuntu___ is now known as foxbuntu [02:31] At VIDEO SOURCE SETUP; Perform EIT Scan, leave as default or input us-bcast,cable,hrc,irc???/us-cable/irc, [02:32] Sorry,,,, Check the box for EIT Scan? or will this go against Schedules Direct information? [02:37] depends on your card [02:37] This is weird, I have a PVR500... Getting Default input as Tuner 1 for both video0 and video1... Is that correct? [02:37] yeah [02:37] they each can use a tuner [02:38] So at INPUT CONNECTIONS I have Tuner1 in both video0 and Video1 fields... [02:38] yeah [02:40] Storage Group is new? Set recordings to go in LiveTV? Do I "Add New Directory"? [02:40] storage groups are part of 0.21 [02:40] i've never done a new install on them sorry [02:40] only upgrade installs [02:41] hey does anyone know if HDhomerun supports multirec [02:42] Cannot say Ive used them either (had MythDora prior). Suppose I "add directory". This will create a folder and dump recordings into it? There is no information in the setup manual. [02:42] i dont think it does npurciful, but i havent tested it with mine [02:42] okay [02:43] superm1: trunk builds still failing [02:43] npurciful, ugh again.. [02:43] man i've pushed that thing 4 times today [02:43] what is failing now!? [02:44] looks like a patch [02:44] applying patch 09_perl_bindings_prefix to ./ ... failed. [02:44] make: *** [patch-stamp] Error 1 [02:46] ugh. okay lets see what happened :) [02:46] they keep on absorbing patches that i sent upstream [02:46] has been the biggest thing [02:48] oh i tried the hardy mythbuntu, looks good [02:49] well just the live, havent tried the install [02:53] npurciful, okay i think i cleaned up that patch [02:54] silly upstream changes... [02:54] :) [03:00] superm1: just remembered why I never tried cat5 as a solution [03:00] why? [03:00] box doesn't have ethernet [03:00] standing there with a wire with nothing to plug into [03:01] heh [03:01] lol [03:01] seriously? [03:01] when its done recording I can swap out the wifi card and try it out [03:01] heh, yep [03:01] its living off of pci slots [03:01] raid controller, wifi, tuner, sound card [03:01] all needed for mythtv [03:02] p4 with rdram, I've looked at replacing the mobo (which I can describe as flaky at best) but it would involve replacing most of the box at this point [03:03] yeah, i hate that, i am having problems finding a mother board to my liking in socket 478 [03:05] luckily the box isn't much more than a glorified frontend which records my wife's shows [03:07] i am running a microfly case (cube shaped) but would like to build a mythbackend with a settop style box, and move all the tv stuff out of my computer [03:08] make my computer just a frontend [03:09] but i was having problems find small / low profile hardware that would support dual tuners 1tb storage, cd and such [03:10] but i think i am going to order a HDHR and a ITX minicomputer for backend [03:11] or a pundit [03:15] might want to wait for the new hauppauge HD box instead of getting a HDHR [03:16] what is the HD box [03:17] http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080110006038&newsLang=en [03:18] would suck if linux support didn't happen right away though [03:19] thats pretty cool [03:19] yeah, that would suck [03:20] might get the hdhr and HDbox [03:21] use the hdhr until or when hdbox and driver suport is there [03:22] I've heard good things about the HDHR so you prob can't go wrong [03:25] anyone using a PVR-250 card here? had a strange experience, and was left with some questions [03:29] trying to get twinview to work... Using nVidia 6200... Option NVIDIA Driver Config Util is greyed out (MCC) [03:32] Do I need to download another driver or should this be included and Im not enabling it? [03:33] you have to enable the restricted driver [03:34] I have... It is "green" [03:35] This is a fresh install of Mythbuntu 8.04 alpha 2 [03:37] have you restarted since you enabled it [03:37] yes i have. [03:37] MythbuntuGuest60, can you try to run sudo nvidia-settings [03:38] from command line? [03:38] Status: In Use [03:38] no, MCC [03:38] MythbuntuGuest60, but i'm saying to pick the terminal in advanced [03:38] and type [03:38] sudo nvidia-settings [03:38] and see if it opens [03:38] you might have found a bug [03:40] command not found... hang on. [03:40] it should be part of nvidia-glx-new [03:40] or nvidia-glx [03:42] MythbuntuGuest60, yeah it looks like something changed with it [03:42] sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings [03:42] its not provided in the newer binaries it appears [03:42] Have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.2... installed [03:43] will have to add a hook around that [03:43] nvidia-glx-new,nvidia-kernel-common,xserver-xorg-video-nv [03:45] Getting error; unable to lock the admin directory (/var/lib/dpkg) is another prcess using it? [03:45] holy crap, myth is taken 26min to build so far [03:45] MythbuntuGuest60, what else is open? [03:45] nevermind... Had the priprietary driver open. [03:46] reboot or log-off afterwards? [03:46] nope [03:46] should just be available [03:46] you might need to hit revert in mcc [03:46] or restart mcc [03:46] otherwise it will just be there [03:49] verygood... the tv is getting feed... Rebooting as the resolution is messed up. [03:49] Was this a "bug" or user error? [03:50] that was a bug [03:50] regarding the nvidia-settings thing [03:51] something changed in the archive that i wasn't aware [03:51] Resolution is off... Set it it to what resolution? [03:51] Currently set to auto. [03:52] whats the best way to start using the svn, im currently using 7.10, is there a how to on this? [03:52] Egghead, look at mythbuntu.org [03:52] take the auto builds link [03:52] that's the best way [03:52] MythbuntuGuest60, well auto works for most people, but if it doesn't, then look in your tv manual to see what your tv supports [03:52] ahh cool, i think i looked at that page but, di know the auto build was same thing [03:53] thanks superm1 :) [03:53] Ive had this working fine on MythDora... [03:54] I know the video card and tv both work with the nvidia software... Just having a pain getting this setup. [03:54] MythbuntuGuest60, well what resolution did it use before? [03:55] Ive got it set as clones / the Monitor has good size. The TV doesnt... Tried highest at 1024 x 768 and still not getting part of viewing area. [03:57] Cannot recall as I setup MythDora a year ago or so and didnt mess with that... If I recall however, MythDora supplied a the config file... Just had to replace in X11 directory and everything worked. [03:58] well the default config file here is setup for autodetect [03:58] so if your tv provides EDID it's set typically [03:58] via the resolution "nvidia-auto-select" [03:58] in xorg.conf [03:58] Ive tried all resolutions... The smaller the worse it looks. [03:59] so manully edit the xorg.conf file? [03:59] well you can try to manually edit it [03:59] add that resolution if its not there already [03:59] "nvidia-auto-select" [03:59] and reboot [04:00] Here is something weird, the walpaper on the monitor (auto) changes in size when resolution is changed on the TV> never fills the entire screen although the top nav bar never changes in size. [04:05] Well, dant bitch.... Getting tv now and eirlier couldnt even get the mythdilldatabase to work... Will try in a few. Have to put my boys down for bed. [04:17] superm1: you said you have a HDHR how big is it [04:18] very small [04:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HDHomeRun [04:18] what was the command to update myth plugins? yum update /*myth/* [04:18] that's mine [04:18] yum? [04:18] that is MythDora [04:18] MythbuntuGuest60, its apt-get update here [04:19] MythbuntuGuest60, although word of warning [04:19] the mirrors are a little out of sync on hardy right now [04:19] will be sorted in a day or so [04:19] so apt-get update /*myth/* [04:19] just apt-get update [04:19] will update the system [04:19] if you want some more control of things, you might look into using synaptic instead [04:19] upgrade then update? [04:20] well update then upgrade [04:20] better yet [04:30] well, I think I will need to pick this up tomarrow as it is getting late... Have 3 issues to get resolved; 1.resolution on TV 2.Mythplugins are not older than the program; wont let me get them open 3.Need to setup MediaMVP (think this will be the biggy). [04:32] Thanks for all your help superml... Was about to scrap Mythbuntu and go back to MythDora as I knew how to get it to work. I must say the MCC is REAL nice!!! Other than that, think Ubuntu is better than Fedora. [04:32] So, I hope you or someone else with knowledge and patience will be online tomarrow! [04:43] hum, mythplugins dep wait [04:52] depwait? [04:52] on waht [04:52] better not be on something new... [05:07] superm1: failed applying patch 01_flix-png-fix to ./ ... failed. [05:08] npurciful, man this has been the roughest weekly build. [05:08] bleh! [05:08] heh, i have been watching the build fail all weekend [05:09] I am banging my head on the keyboard for you [05:12] wtf? [05:12] that applies cleanly for me locally on hardy [05:12] on 16127 [05:27] superm1: mythvideo imdb grabber on the gutsy trunk builds doesn't seem to be working [05:29] rhpot1991, yeah i'm trying to get a new trunk build in [05:29] i've been struggling all weekend on it [05:29] as npurciful has noticed [05:29] O [05:29] woops [05:29] I'm seeing traffic @ 3-7 Mbps while playing a recording [05:30] more spiky than yours [05:30] but in the same rangish [05:30] gonna go try a cat5 cable to see what happens with that [05:30] i bet if i go out of this room though i can achieve that same speed [05:31] the other box is about 12 feet away, in the next room [05:31] heh, back someone told me that bestbuy had 1tb WDC GP HDD for 230$ [05:32] just to make sure I understand the oder of operations: [05:32] 1. collect underpants [05:33] mythtv will autoflag commericilas then mythtranscode to nuv extention with the commericials cut, finally nuvexport-xvid transcodes the already transcoded .nuv to a .avi? [05:34] resulting in a xvid .avi with no commercials? [05:35] darthanubis: I wouldn't do that without verifying the flags [05:35] gonna be sad when you strip useful programming away to nothing [05:35] what do you mean? [05:35] you don't trust commflag? [05:36] also it depends on your tuner as far as what your recordings are, for instance my hauppauge cards have mpeg2 files sitting there for me right off the bat [05:36] no, I don't. [05:36] I have a hardware encoder card as well [05:36] I've seen many shows that have a 10 second clip on the end that commflaging thinks is still part of a commercial [05:36] there is no way to pragmatically detect that [05:36] actally that shows up allot [05:37] ooh. ooh, i love it when it just leaves commericals [05:37] its accurante enough for my needs [05:37] npurciful: I've seen some of those [05:37] or when you get school cancellations and it finds 0 commercials cause there is a constant blue bar at the top/bottom of the screen [05:37] I'm just now trying to fine tune the userjobs to leave me with xbids of a reasonable size to store [05:37] I have never had issues with archviing (or nuv export) letting it strip commercials, sometimes I lose some video but for the times it happens doesn't bother me much [05:37] less than 700mb for a 30min show [05:38] foxbuntu, do you know if I have my order of operations correct? [05:39] darthanubis, sounds right [05:39] nuvexport is used on the .nuv files not the .mpgs left by the card right? [05:39] right [05:39] nuvexport can take mpeg2 files [05:39] * rhpot1991 has done it [05:39] right [05:39] I know it can, but this prevents the commerical cuts [05:39] darthanubis, rhpot1991 is the mythbuntu nuvexport guy [05:39] not so much [05:39] lol [05:40] I've used it a few times, and made my own ipod stuff [05:40] yeah, and the superbowel had 143 commercials [05:40] I just want to make sure my setup is correct to allow clean xvids, clean= commercial free [05:40] darthanubis: as long as you wont mind missing some recordings from time to time, then you can do it on the fly [05:40] for important stuff I'd watch it in its whole and skip commercials by hand, then set a job to remove them and start the process [05:40] it sounds like the right order to me [05:42] first time getting myth the way I want it [05:42] diddo, watch most stuff and skip commercials buy hand (note npurciful falls asleep with remote in hand) [05:42] I had to compile ffmpeg and nuvexport from source [05:42] the nuvexport from repos did not install the perl modules needed [05:43] ffmpeg was not enabled for divx, xvid, mp3 etc [05:43] followed the forum post to the letter, it was a pain, but I believe its all working now [05:44] I still don't see where mytharchive comes into play [05:44] mytharchive will do all of that automated but builds to DVD [05:45] or you can just archive the files from you backend to disk [05:45] oh yeah [05:46] darthanubis: medibuntu has a good ffmpeg [05:46] yeah, depriciated though [05:46] MCC enables the medibuntu source when you enable dvd playback [05:46] did notfor me [05:47] gutsy or hardy? [05:47] hardy [05:47] * foxbuntu reminds rhpot1991 about the essential equation Mythbuntu > Mediabuntu [05:47] ya I've heard the hardy one isn't up to par yet [05:47] :) [05:48] hmmm this is gonna be a pain, no idea what IP this box is gonna get [05:48] superm1: get me a better mobo from dell to replace this one [05:48] * rhpot1991 is tired of needing to swap hardware constantly [05:49] rhpot1991, dhcp.leases [05:49] on openwrt [05:49] superm1: already there [05:49] need to build a better BE [05:50] darthanubis: who doesn't? :) [05:50] I bet [05:50] <-- [05:51] what the heck, eth1 and eth2, where is eth0 [05:51] next project is to get a secondary BE to help with the workload [05:51] darthanubis, how much recording are you doing?! [05:51] I have 2 BE's, only cause I wanted to use tuners and hard drives on both [05:51] like 100 sessions [05:52] also comcast recently promised me that the STB they are giving me will have working firewire [05:52] 200 are set, 6 conflicting, about 113 will record [05:52] I have a single backend and I watch way too much TV [05:52] they best not be lieing to me [05:52] most I don't keep [05:52] sweet jesus [05:52] no way you can watch that much tv [05:52] lol [05:52] but seeing as how Iam just getting the transcoding to work right, allot of transcoding is happening [05:52] I get a conflict once every month or so, between 2 tuners and 2 people picking shows [05:53] transcoding is cpu intensive [05:53] your right I can't, its too much [05:53] I generally don't keep stuff so I don't bother transcoding unless it has a purpose [05:53] I used to transcode everything, and recently i stopped transcoding all together [05:53] yeah, I'm trying to get there [05:53] crap are you record everyshow or what [05:54] have had better video results and faster commflags, makes me happy [05:54] well I'm a Law and Order CI freak [05:54] what the heck, since when do changes in /etc/network/interfaces happen when I write to that file and not restart networking? [05:54] and they always have marathons on [05:54] darthanubis, I like CI too...but I only record on my HD now [05:55] me too [05:55] my stance on transcoding is that HD's are cheap, better to buy more and add to a LVM than to make my cpu crunch on recordings when I can use XvMC with mpeg2 files [05:55] solarbaby, alot of the older episodes recorded, then I had to play catch up [05:55] an i have seen most L&O's so i filter New episodes [05:56] Power Search [05:57] do the same with CSI & NCIS [05:57] that gets me down to about 5hr of prgraming a day [05:58] I like the orig csi, and never got into ncis [05:58] with the late shows and stuff [05:58] ncis is pretty cool [05:58] "The Universe" has peeked my intereset [05:59] superm1: your now bangin hard enough, its still broken. J/K [05:59] :) [06:05] superm1: :( [06:05] cat5 == working :( [06:05] didn't help? [06:05] oh [06:05] how is that bad? [06:06] cause I can't do cat5 [06:06] sure you can [06:06]