[00:23] <purserj> morning/afternoon/evening all
[00:23] <purserj> got a question, what are the minimum requirements for a stand alone installation of edubuntu? I can't seem to find them on the edubuntu site
[00:56] <johnny_> same as the regular ubuntu
[00:56] <johnny_> which i have actually never read
[00:56] <johnny_> unless you're using it as a ltsp server
[01:00] <purserj> right, I've just been contacted by someone who's interested in edubuntu but couldn't find the minimum specs. They didn't know about ubuntu so were a little confused
[01:01] <purserj> might be handy to have that info on the site
[01:02] <johnny_> edubuntu is turning into a addon cd to ubuntu in later versions, so i guess there hasn't been alot of focus on such things lately
[01:02] <johnny_> it won't be it's own distro
[01:03] <purserj> ah, didn't know that
[01:03] <johnny_> it's still in the works atm
[01:04] <johnny_> atm, all edubuntu is, is a way to have a ubuntu install with some extra graphics and programs preinstalle
[01:05] <purserj> okay
[01:16] <lns> purserj, as an informal, based-solely-on-experience opinion, if you want a nice fast system (i.e. no big sluggishness during regular usage), I'd go with a 1.5-2.0GHz system with at least 512MB RAM and a 40GB HDD
[01:17] <lns> I have a 1.8GHz P4 running Ubuntu and it's fine - a bit sluggish when viewing flash pages (big surprise) and doing other things - but I usually have 3-4 fullscale apps (tbird, ffox, sunbird, xchat, multiple terminals) open at the same time
[01:17] <lns> I do have 1GB RAM PC-3200 RAM though, that will definitely help
[01:18] <purserj> lns: thanks I'll pass that on
[01:18] <kgoetz> lns: thoe numbers sound about right (although hdd sie is moot over 5 gig)
[01:19] <lns> kgoetz, I was just thinking 40gb for a modest amount of storage space
[01:19] <kgoetz> lns: yep
[01:20] <kgoetz> afaik most pc drives over ~20 gig are 7200rpm
[01:23] <lns> purserj, anything more than 2.0GHz will just make it run faster. =) Can't lose with that, but the *minimum* I would say is 1.5-2GHz
[01:24] <kgoetz> lns: are you thiking athe mmodern releases or all?
[01:27] <lns> kgoetz, modern yes
[01:27] <lns> i'm using Gutsy (ubuntu) on my 1.8ghz
[01:28] <kgoetz> :/ thats irritating
[02:46] <nixternal> RichEd or ogra: Will the package in the repos still be called edubuntu-desktop?  I plan on emailing you all a copy of this chapter tonight so you can review it
[04:24] <achandrashekar> hello im using the smbldap-installer and it errors out on smbldap-populate portion. Can someone assist
[04:27] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: what errores does it give you?
[04:28] <achandrashekar> i ran it manually as well and that was far more descriptive.
[04:28] <achandrashekar> here you go -
[04:28] <achandrashekar> (its short) no need for pastebin
[04:28] <achandrashekar> :)
[04:29] <achandrashekar> erreur LDAP: Can't contact master ldap server (IO::Socket::INET: Connect: Connection refuse) at /usr/share/perl5/smbldap_tools.pm line 282
[04:30] <achandrashekar> any ideas?
[04:31] <kgoetz> is it configured correctly?
[04:31] <kgoetz> 'cant connect' sounds like the server is uncontactable
[04:31] <achandrashekar> meaning?..i simply ran the script and followed the directions (so i believe) on the website
[04:32] <achandrashekar> i ran the script on the same box that i want to install it. :)
[04:33] <kgoetz> do you have an ldap server setup?
[04:33] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: no. the script does the full installation.
[04:34] <achandrashekar> from www.vcsvikings.org/docuwiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi
[04:34] <achandrashekar> sorry needs /FrontPage at the end
[04:35] <kgoetz> www.vcsvikings.org/docuwiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/FrontPage ?
[04:35] <achandrashekar> yes
[04:36] <kgoetz> hm.
[04:37] <achandrashekar> a bit strange...i think its a permissions issue of some sort... ill have to track it down.
[04:37] <achandrashekar> i did run it as sudo su
[04:38] <daya> hi channel,
[04:38] <daya> Can we build LTSP in debian as included in edubuntu 7.10
[04:38] <achandrashekar> daya: I dont see why not.
[04:39] <kgoetz> daya: i think it is built for debian already
[04:39] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: sounds like the script is roken
[04:40] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: I figured something like that.. its "trying" to access ldap...but cant.ill have to hunt. because I want to set up an infrastructure setup for ltsp
[04:40] <daya> kgoetz, yes, but only 5.0 in ltsp.org, and backported one
[04:40] <achandrashekar> and i have the dhcp-failover working :)
[04:40] <daya> kgoetz, I am seeking without nfs,
[04:41] <daya> kgoetz, that one with squashfs and nbd
[04:42] <kgoetz> daya: ah right
[04:42] <daya> kgoetz, is it built for debian,
[04:43] <daya> kgoetz, whats the lnk
[04:43] <kgoetz> daya: unsure.
[04:43] <kgoetz> (unsure if its built for debian)
[04:44] <daya> kgoetz, most probably  ogra knows about it,
[04:44] <daya> ogra,can you help me to find out it,
[04:50] <lns> daya, google is your friend
[04:50] <daya> lns, :),
[04:54] <johnny_> ask in #ltsp
[04:54] <johnny_> but wait
[04:54] <johnny_> one of the folks in there maintains the debian packages
[05:05] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: figured it out.
[05:06] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: cool
[05:06] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: /var/log/syslog is your friend! :)   /var/run/slap.pid was not there and owned by openldap;openldap
[05:07] <achandrashekar> thanks for your help...sometimes just having someone listen and ask questions back gets you going in the right direction. :)
[05:08] <kgoetz> achandrashekar: have fun
[05:12] <achandrashekar> i will let you know how the whole thing goes. I basically followed the steps to get a failover ltsp system going
[05:13] <achandrashekar> if it works well..i will do a "re-write up" for standalone ltsp setup. there are many "gotchas"
[05:54] <achandrashekar> kgoetz: okay on the second ldap client, I set it up to authenticate and rebooted it. I know receive a message that simply says "Starting Kernel daeomon" and it gives me a console prompt for login instead of typical graphical login. Any ideas?
[06:14] <achandrashekar> ldap install issue...part 2...after rebooting the master ldap server, the system hangs at the following "Starting kernel log daemon"
[06:14] <achandrashekar> can someone help?
[07:20] <achandrashekar> hello..in the ldap cofiguration of edubuntu..the system seems to hang on boot...anyone else experience this?
[07:21] <johnny_> you're going to find a smaller subset of folks who use ldap with their setup i imagine
[07:21] <johnny_> prolly going to have to wait til later
[07:21] <johnny_> to get a response
[07:26] <pygi> achandrashekar, hello
[07:26] <pygi> have you tried doing any debugging?
[07:27] <pygi> I had a small setup of computers like that (read: something like 40)
[07:27] <pygi> purserj, sorry, did you got your response yesterday on the requirements?
[07:28] <pygi> I'll be back in 15 mins, so you might poke me if you want answers :)
[07:49] <achandrashekar> pygi: sorry for delay..it appears to be a nsswitch issue and boot up..something to do with compat being replaced with files ldap
[07:49] <achandrashekar> im trying to work on a workaround
[09:03] <achandrashekar> okay...it appears there is a bug that has been posted for ldap
[09:03] <achandrashekar> and it then further causes more headaches for those trying to install ltsp in infrastructure mode for 7.10
[09:04] <achandrashekar> consider that ltsp5.0 is so wonderful..hopefully someone will fix the damn libnss issue that plagues ldap
[09:10] <ogra> achandrashekar, did you ask in #ubuntu-server about it ?
[09:10] <ogra> theer are the ldap experts ;)
[09:11] <ogra> *there
[09:12] <achandrashekar> i see...i ask them as well... this is a major impact to the edubuntu community as most of us guys are looking to make a solid move in an infrastructure setup. with ldap not working properly the management of accounts across boxes becomes a nightmare
[09:12] <achandrashekar> anyhow..will ask there as well
[09:12] <achandrashekar> thnx
[09:12] <ogra> well, a *lot* changed with ldap in gutsy
[09:12] <ogra> they are preparing for the auth server implementation in hardy+1
[09:12] <achandrashekar> yeah.....im so impressed with ltsp 5, and i got the dhcp-failover working
[09:13] <achandrashekar> last piece of the puzzle here
[09:13] <ogra> so they adjusted the infrastructure to their needs for the future
[09:13] <ogra> lots of things might work different
[09:13] <achandrashekar> i see.. im still a trooper :)
[09:13] <achandrashekar> been working like over a week on this
[09:13] <achandrashekar> ive learned an incredible amount
[09:13] <achandrashekar> and im close :)
[09:16]  * johnny_ reads bzrarchives blueprint and thinks of monotone
[09:25] <purserj> pygi: yes I found out the information that I needed thanks
[09:40] <achandrashekar> ill try to ask in the morning again...gdnight
[09:40] <pygi> achandrashekar, sec :P
[09:40] <achandrashekar> okay..
[09:40] <achandrashekar> no problem whats up?
[09:41] <pygi> just reading what you posted :)
[09:41] <pygi> ah, gutsy setup with ldap ....
[09:41] <achandrashekar> yeah...giving me fits
[09:41] <pygi> hm, didnt upgrade to gutsy yet (/me had dapper in place me thinks)
[09:41] <pygi> purserj, oki :)
[09:41] <achandrashekar> and that is ltsp 5 as well?? or
[09:42] <achandrashekar> 4 right
[09:42] <achandrashekar> ??
[09:42] <pygi> I think it was 4?
[09:42] <achandrashekar> yeah 4
[09:43] <achandrashekar> its that damn libnss package. I even tried to move S19slapd in all of the rc.X files to S10slapd and it still gives me fits.
[09:43] <kwak> does edubuntu have issues with broadcom wireless adapters
[09:44] <johnny_> just as much as ever other distro
[09:44] <achandrashekar> broadcom has issues with linux in general :)
[09:44] <achandrashekar> ;)
[09:44] <achandrashekar> anyhow guys..i need a tad bit of sleep here..and maybe ill come up with another mechanism to manage these accounts.
[09:45] <achandrashekar> across two boxes.
[09:45] <achandrashekar> thanks for all your help see you l8r
[09:45] <johnny_> i'm sure it is possible to get it working
[09:45] <achandrashekar> i finally got the dhcp part working with failover and it was a learning curve
[09:46] <achandrashekar> but now this....:(
[09:46] <achandrashekar> id REALLY like to figure this out. on standalone
[09:46] <achandrashekar> anyhow..im spiraling.
[09:46] <achandrashekar> and tired.
[09:47] <achandrashekar> c you guys l8r
[09:47] <achandrashekar> kwak: ndiswrapper is your friend
[09:47] <achandrashekar> gdnight
[09:49] <ogra> kwak, you should have a little icon in your panel telling you that the system found HW it needs external stuff for, click on it and it will walk your though the process to get the broadcom working (note that doesnt work for all broeadcoms, but most)
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[16:04] <juliux> ogra, that was a quick reaction
[16:05] <ogra> well, i wish i had been faster