Riddellif QVBoxLayout works, stick with it00:00
nixternaland the silly PyKDE4 docs tell you to use pykdedocs browser and it is nowhere to be found...not even on Google00:00
nixternalwill, what I was trying to do was show the differences in the code between native PyQt4 and native PyKDE400:01
nixternaland it is nice having PyKDE4 completion in Eclipse with the PyDev plugin00:01
ryanakcaHmm. For the website, would you rather have a button with gradient that doesn't resize (bad accessability!), or a good looking button that does resize, but doesn't have a gradient ?02:02
Tm_TRiddell: l02:12
Tm_TRiddell: agh, sorry, bad keyboard usage here02:13
Tm_Tryanakca: latter02:13
ryanakcaTm_T: okies02:14
Tm_Tryanakca: as in, bad accessibility is BAD02:19
Tm_Tryanakca: btw remember to define background colour when you define foreground colour ;)02:19
ryanakcalol :)02:20
* ryanakca => bed, night02:20
Tm_Tryanakca: I was serious, but yes nighty :)02:21
nixternalYAY! Edubuntu Chapter rewrite pretty much complete!03:03
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nosrednaekimnixternal » do you get paid for writing for the ubuntu book?03:05
nixternalI am not writing, just helping with an update for the chapter03:13
nixternalI look at it this way, I have gotten a few thousand dollars of free software, so that is payment enough :)03:17
cheguevaradoesn't help you eat :p03:18
nixternalsure it does, I can order pizza online :p03:18
nixternalI actually gave that a shot last week, and it worked like a charm03:18
nixternalpizza hut rocks!03:18
nosrednaekimno kidding? you can do that?03:18
nixternalI guess they have had it for a while03:19
nixternalthere are quite a few places here in Chicago that I can do it with03:19
nixternaland the response time is the same as if I were to call in an order03:19
nixternalthis way here, I only have to get up once now :p03:19
nosrednaekimnixternal » ah.. how you long for teleported pizza, eh?03:20
nixternal30 minutes! piping hot!03:20
cheguevarai remembered when i tried to order pizza from dominos and they are like we dont deliver to your neighborhood03:22
* nosrednaekim thinks its best not to go to cheguevara's neighborhood after dark..03:22
cheguevarano kidding :P03:23
cheguevaraor before dark03:23
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=== rouzic_ is now known as rouzic_ausente
_StefanS_kwwii: ping?09:25
Tonio__StefanS_: show me the money !09:27
_StefanS_Tonio_: $$$$$$$09:28
_StefanS_Tonio_: anything happening ?09:29
_StefanS_Tonio_: I'm working today... which is all new for me :D09:29
Tonio__StefanS_: nothing, it was just a convenient way to say "hello" :)09:30
_StefanS_Tonio_: I know :) - it was just a general question on how things were on bugs/features on hardy09:31
_StefanS_Tonio_: you've been hard at work I know09:31
Tonio__StefanS_: I'm on kdelibs and xdg directories integration atm09:32
_StefanS_Tonio_: anything I should be looking at ?09:33
_StefanS_Tonio_: besides what you're doing ofcourse ;)09:33
_StefanS_Tonio_: btw, virtualbox is pretty nice.. just trying it now09:33
_StefanS_Tonio_: I wonder what I paid for when i bought vmware workstation... hmm.09:39
stefan__since today i can not log into kde4 anymore09:47
stefan__i am using hardy heron09:47
stefan__the error i get is:09:47
_StefanS_stefan__: I got the same problem, and I like your name btw ;)09:48
stefan__FatalError: you need to have KComponenObject ....09:49
stefan__oh cool ;)09:49
stefan__any ideas?09:49
_StefanS_stefan__: Well I think apachelogger_ is packaging kde4, so go ahead and ask him09:49
stefan__i reinstalled anything related to kde4, removed ".kde*" dirs in /root and /home/stefan09:49
_StefanS_stefan__: Its probably due to some changes, but its likely he already knows about it.09:50
* _StefanS_ is pretty impressed with virtualbox09:50
Tonio__StefanS_: hum, some work on kdesudo-kde4 ?09:50
Tonio__StefanS_: make kdesudo class inhérits kpassworddialog again09:50
Tonio__StefanS_: that's required for better caption, icon on the top left etc.....09:51
Tonio__StefanS_: toma changed that....09:51
_StefanS_Tonio_: he coded the dialog himself?09:51
Tonio__StefanS_: I consider doing this for the next release, but if you want to help, that would be welcome :)09:51
Tonio__StefanS_: well he removed the inhéritance09:51
Tonio_rahhhh, well you understoof09:51
_StefanS_Tonio_: inheritance :)09:51
* Tonio_ is tired....09:52
_StefanS_Tonio_: I dont blame you for putting all those french chars in there ;)09:52
_StefanS_Tonio_: we're all tired..09:52
_StefanS_Tonio_: should I grab the latest kdesudo-kde4 from bzr?09:52
_StefanS_I'm amazed that the closed source nvidia-drivers can be so slow in 2d..09:53
Tonio__StefanS_: yep :)09:53
Tonio__StefanS_: well I can do that later if you want, but would be nice to get help :)09:53
_StefanS_Tonio_: bzr url? I can never seem to grasp that wierd naming09:53
Tonio__StefanS_: the idea of removing the inheritance was nice, the only problem is that I want to have a nice caption and icon on the window top bar09:54
_StefanS_stefan__: just go ahead and ask apachelogger_09:54
Tonio__StefanS_: I think that requires inheritance right ?09:54
_StefanS_Tonio_: yes, afaik you just extend the standard kpassworddialog, and thus you will get all those features handed down automatically09:55
_StefanS_Tonio_: but I will have to look at the source.. btw, did you have any problems with the kdmtheme?09:55
_StefanS_Tonio_: I was wondering that we might need to inform the user that he needs reboot in order to see the changed kdmtheme09:56
kwwii_StefanS_: pong10:05
Tonio__StefanS_: for kdmtheme I had to rewrite the patch :)10:06
Tonio__StefanS_: all the images where corrupted, but now it's okay10:06
Tonio__StefanS_: also magically, it works with kdesudo now, I don't understand why......10:06
smarterstefan__: comment out "userProfileMapFile=/etc/kde-user-profile" in /etc/kde4rc to get kde4 to work again.10:10
stefan__thank you10:11
stefan__very much :)10:11
_StefanS_Tonio_: well, I'm glad you could fix that patch.. and sorry if it gave you alot of work10:12
_StefanS_Tonio_: it works great10:12
stefan__smarter: that works!10:12
Tonio__StefanS_: it wasn't that long, don't mind :)10:12
Tonio_you are the coder, I'm the packager ;)10:13
Tonio_I'm used to rewrite patches :)10:13
_StefanS_Tonio_: yes, I wish I sometimes understood that d*mn debuild thing :)10:16
Tonio_I which sometimes I understood that d*n c++ thing :)10:17
_StefanS_uhm just hate using IM's to irc..10:26
_StefanS_Tonio_: do you have that bzr url handy?10:28
Tonio__StefanS_: bzr checkout bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk-kde410:31
_StefanS_Tonio_: thankyouverymuch :D10:31
Tonio__StefanS_: youarewelcome !10:32
Tonio_ouch, python-apt looks like broken.....10:44
Tonio_ValueError: error parsing Python-Version attribute10:44
Tonio_Riddell: aware of this issue ?10:44
Tonio_hum yes, it is just discussed on ubuntu-devel ;)10:45
_StefanS_Tonio_: yes its bzr you're having trouble with?10:46
_StefanS_Tonio_: tried installing it yesterday10:46
Tonio__StefanS_: yep10:47
buzdoes anyone else see kde4 apps occasionally freeze for a few seconds when they want to display some dialog?10:47
_StefanS_buz: I guess thats normal if you run it with all the bells and whistles :D10:48
buzeven when composite is off10:48
buzand showing a simple yes/no dialog should not take much work10:48
_StefanS_buz: it still makes the composite stuff offscreen...10:48
_StefanS_hehe, just kidding.10:48
_StefanS_I dont know :d10:48
buzit looks like a clear bug to me10:49
buzbut it hard to reproduce10:49
_StefanS_buz: what gfx card?10:49
buzintel gma x310010:49
buzhappens with or without compositing10:49
buz(i usually have compositing off because intel drivers cant play movies when composite is on)10:50
_StefanS_buz: hmm could it be the dpi settings? I've seen it slow down kde10:50
buzwell i do have 148dpi10:50
_StefanS_buz: if the driver sets 100dpi, and kde sets it to 96dpi10:50
buzbut it's absurd that it would only happen with simplest dialogs10:50
_StefanS_buz: then its _slow_10:50
_StefanS_buz: well you got fonts on all dialogs.10:50
buznormal windows are no issue at all10:50
_StefanS_hmm, maybe a lookup in history makes it lockkup?10:50
buznot only in konqueror10:51
buzmaybe i should reinstall hardy10:51
buzi've been doing some evil stuff to it10:51
buzand another thing, firefox3.0 always zooms pages without being told to do so10:56
buzhow can i turn that off10:56
buzabout:config does not list any obvious way10:56
_StefanS_buz: another bad thing is that google browser sync doesnt work anymore for ff3.0 :(10:56
_StefanS_buz: havent seen those imaging probs though10:57
Tonio_crimsun_: any news concerning the kernel patch I sent you ?11:15
Tonio_crimsun_: including it wouldn't break the featurefreeze as this closes a bug, but I don't know how long it'll be integrable to the hardy kernel branch....11:16
Tonio_crimsun_: http://paste.toniox.org/2813 for the link11:18
jpatrickapachelogger_: !!!11:20
jpatrickapachelogger_: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/dragonplayer_2.0-1.html11:22
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apachelogger_jpatrick: yay12:07
apachelogger_jpatrick: about the .directory - apparently eean is going to release 2.0.1, if I get a FFE I'll just remove it with this upload12:12
apachelogger_nixternal: technically that plasma-appletsrc shouldn't be there ... since I thought I removed it ... since plasma doesn't handle it nicely ... investigating12:13
apachelogger_Riddell: nice commit ;-)12:15
Riddellapachelogger_: which?12:16
apachelogger_Riddell: the one to k-d-s deactivating all of KDE 4 without knowing what exactly caused the issue :P12:17
Riddella quick fix12:18
Riddellapachelogger_: someone said it was userProfileMapFile=/etc/kde-user-profile which broke it12:21
Riddellalthough I don't know why it would12:21
apachelogger_Riddell: it does, but why is included in the kde4rc?12:22
apachelogger_I removed it since it was causing these issues for me as well12:22
Riddellapachelogger_: then you didn't commit to bzr?12:23
apachelogger_kde4rc doesn't include it :)12:24
apachelogger_I found the problem12:24
apachelogger_someone removed the TODO from TODO-plasma-appletsrc12:24
apachelogger_which pretty much breaks all applet loading12:24
Riddellapachelogger_: ./kde-profile/kde4rc does12:24
apachelogger_Riddell: for me it only includes [Directories-default]12:25
Riddellthe file isn't even here http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/files/jr%40wido-20080219001716-nns8wft4fgmdlk3m?file_id=kdeprofile-20061005105955-9qo1onrsjnsjpxn8-912:27
apachelogger_spooky indeed12:27
* apachelogger_ creates a new branch12:29
apachelogger_Riddell: anyway, should I prefix plasma-appletsrc with a TODO- again, or just remove it to prevent this breakage in future?12:30
Riddellapachelogger_: TODO is fine12:32
apachelogger_Riddell: kde4rc doesn't exist in a new branch either12:32
Riddellmy fresh checkout has no kde4rc file at all12:32
apachelogger_so not only svn is eating files :S12:32
jpatrickapachelogger_: ok, tell me when you upload it and i'll poke it towards Debian12:35
Riddellerr, upload k-d-s to debian?12:36
jpatrickRiddell: dragonplayer12:36
apachelogger_Riddell: should I leave slim-glow in k-d-s?12:38
apachelogger_as we don't use it, there is not much point in keeping IMO12:38
jpatrickRiddell: btw, we need the stuff in #kubuntu-offtopic :)12:40
Riddellapachelogger_: I don't think we should keep it12:41
Riddelljpatrick: whit?12:41
Riddellapachelogger_: although it can be packaged separately12:42
jpatrickRiddell: access ;)12:42
RiddellI don't follow12:42
jpatrick /msg ChanServ access #kubuntu-offtopic list12:43
* apachelogger_ gets a coffee, before he breaks something due to insufficient caffeine12:43
Riddelljpatrick: done12:45
jpatrickRiddell: thanks, also stdin and jussi01 would make good canidates :)12:45
jpatrickthanks alot :)12:47
apachelogger_Riddell: I leave slim-glow untouched for now. we can always remove it later on, if we don't want to package it seperately12:54
sebasapachelogger_: Don't forget to package fluffybunny. :-)12:55
apachelogger_sebas: hehe, as soon as plasma supports GUI based theme changing ;-)12:56
sebasapachelogger_: trunk/ does :)12:56
* apachelogger_ thinks that was pretty much a request for including a patch in our kdebase12:58
apachelogger_Riddell: pushed r153 of k-d-s12:59
tekteenwhat is kubuntu summer of code?13:15
tekteenRiddell: is it kubuntu's mentoring program for google summer of code?13:17
Riddelltekteen: never heard of it13:19
* Jucato thinks tekteen misinterpreted the link in the topic13:20
tekteenwhat is it?13:20
Jucatoideas for GSoC, for would-be Kubuntu participation13:21
tekteenwhat is the link to Kubuntu Summer Of Code Ideas?13:21
tekteenso my second comment?13:22
tekteenkubuntu within GSoC13:22
Jucatoif that's what you meant.yeah13:22
tekteenI am not old enough to join GSoC13:23
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Tonio_Riddell: I just noticed kdesudo is becoming popular on kde-apps :) gentoo now had an ebuild13:52
buzmaybe a decent power manager gui for kde4 could be an useful gsoc contribution?13:52
jpatrickbuz: I believe kde are working on one..13:53
buzdoes gsoc even accept "distro only" stuff?13:53
Riddellthat would be good13:53
Riddellmaybe sebas knows the progress on the plasma one13:54
buza md raid gui would be neat13:54
smarterwhat's the minimal age for GSoC participation?13:55
buzscripts for weekly kde svn snapshots13:55
Riddellsmarter: 1813:58
jpatricksmarter: we'll have our chance, don't worry13:59
smarterjpatrick: ;)13:59
smarterit means that I've four years to finish my C++ book ^^'14:00
Tonio_Riddell: will you be at fosdem finally ? I'll arrive on saturday 10:15 AM14:00
buzhacking dvd iso support into kaffeine would be nice, but i think thats more of a xine job than anything else14:01
RiddellTonio_: yes14:01
Tonio_Riddell: nice ;)14:01
Riddellbuz: kaffeine can play dvds fine14:01
buzbut not isos14:02
Tonio_Riddell: I'll send you an sms when on site so that we can find each other, unless you don't wan't to see me of course :)14:02
buzi'm too lazy to swap dvds so i have a bunch of isos on my NAS14:02
buzto watch them i have to mount them via loopback14:02
Tonio_buz: can't you mount your iso and then read it with kaffeine ?14:02
buzyeah i do that :P14:02
Tonio_buz: well post a feature request bug to kaffeine bugtracker then ;)14:03
buzi think it should go to xine14:03
Tonio_buz: there isn't much we can do I'm affraid...14:03
Tonio_buz: also, you can use http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kfuseiso?content=46526 to make the mounting process easier :)14:04
buzi'll check that14:05
Tonio_buz: this one seems better : http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountISO?content=1157714:05
buzwell mplayer actually can play isos but it does not supoprt menu :(14:06
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Jucato(stdin made a mountISO thingy too)14:07
buzotoh, intel's xvideo implementation is badly broken anyway14:08
Tonio_Jucato: duplicating efforts is bad :)14:08
buzso until they fix this, i cant watch videos very well14:08
Tonio_buz: same with ati fglrx :)14:08
buznot quite that badly14:08
Tonio_buz: simply no xv at all ;)14:09
Jucato"It's different from other scripts in that it uses the KDE GUI (kdialog) to get the file/mount point and password (kdesu) from the user (though everything is still done in the bash shell)." (according to stdin)14:09
Tonio_same with radeonhd, although this is supposed to be added soon14:09
buzoh my at1400 occasionally did xvideo14:09
buzthen after the next reboot it stopped doing it14:09
buzafter 2 months i got rid of that machine :P14:09
Tonio_buz: I was talking about recent chips, like tha all X1xxx series14:09
buzyeah i mine was radeon 140014:10
buzfigured i go to open source heroes at intel only to see that they dont do xvideo properly either14:10
Tonio_well, sad to say, but nvidia seems to provide good video drivers for linux.....14:10
buzsort of14:10
Tonio_btw, I'm hopefull concerning radeonhd14:10
buzwell i'm hopeful concerning intel, too14:11
Tonio_2008 will see 3D and 2D acceleration as well as XVideo support coming arround14:11
buzif it was for me, i would want h.264 acceleration14:12
buzbut i doubt thats gonna happen14:12
Tonio_no chance :)14:12
buzmhh intel 4100 supposedly can do it14:12
buznot sure if they will support it on linux though14:13
* Tm_T is slowly going to panic mode14:38
jjesseTm_T: why the panic mode?14:41
jjessedon't people usually quickly go into panic mode?14:41
Tm_Tnot me14:41
Tm_Twell, I can go slowly or quickly14:41
Tm_Tjjesse: UDW hour is closing14:41
Tm_TUbuntu Developer Week14:43
jjessewhat channel is that one?14:43
jjesseyou doing a session i assume?14:44
Tm_Tshould in 3 hours or so14:44
apacheloggerTm_T: I think you need a tea, mom14:48
Tm_Tapachelogger: indeed15:07
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jjesseis the current kubntu-kde4 alternate cd how things are going to look for the hardy release?15:16
jjesseor will it be a live cd?15:16
jjessecause it will be a big difference how the book goes15:19
Riddelljjesse: it'll be a live CD15:34
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: 5.0b includes a .svn directory in ts - please ensure that you don't ship any .svn .git etc. directories15:35
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: yeah I know15:35
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: removed them in v0.5. fixing some more things and releasing it in about half an hour15:36
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: ok, packaging is almost finished15:36
jjesseRiddell: cool thanks15:36
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: and then concert time!15:36
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: concert time?15:41
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: yeah. there is a concert in about 4-5 hours15:42
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: ah, very nice :)15:42
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: y15:42
apache|mobileme loves concerts15:43
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: the application icon should go into hicolor not oxygen15:48
Artemis_Fowly i know15:48
Artemis_Fowlwhy sould it go there?15:49
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: otherwise it's not accessible for non-kde15:49
apache|mobileor rather, non-oxygen using desktop15:49
Artemis_Fowlso rename all ox to hi?15:49
apache|mobilewhile hicolor is the lowest fallback for _all_ freedesktop compatible desktops15:49
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: yes15:49
Riddellnot all15:49
Riddelljust the one used in the menu .desktop file15:49
Tm_Tstdin: one issue gone with packages of .9 is, Amarok collection lost ;((15:51
stdinhmm, wonder how/why that is..15:51
apache|mobileTm_T: collection lost in KDE 4?15:52
Tm_Tapache|mobile: nope, 3.5.915:52
apache|mobilethat is rather strange actually15:52
apache|mobilethough, maybe the issues are the same15:52
Tm_Tit is, well, actually it got "forgot" totally, including what dirs what selected15:53
Tm_TI had to reselect and rescan15:53
apache|mobilesounds pretty much the same15:53
apache|mobileAmarok wasn't able to get the HAL id of partitions from kded15:53
Tm_Tapache|mobile: you little!15:54
apache|mobileso it lost all traces of that partition15:54
* apache|mobile gives Tm_T a cup of tea15:54
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: compiling hopefully with the last changes15:54
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: grub settings -> background -> splash preview doesn't go away15:56
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: click on it :)15:57
apache|mobilenah, doesn't work15:57
apache|mobilemaybe it's an .0b issue15:57
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: really? have tried numerous previews. none caused any problem at all. let me check it out15:57
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: http://aplg.kollide.net/ubuntu_black.xpm.gz15:59
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: did it over 20 times. maybe it is splash-image-specific. upload somewhere the splashimage15:59
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: u are really quick :)16:00
apache|mobileI am way ahead :P16:00
apache|mobilebtw, if anyone wants a screeny: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot89.png16:00
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: no problem with the splash image over here. do a 'ls -l /tmp'16:02
manchickenIs pycentral broken for anybody else?16:02
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 309406 2008-02-19 17:02 qgrubeditor.xpm16:02
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: issue found16:03
apache|mobileit only happens with composite16:03
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: really strange.16:03
* apache|mobile does a testbuild16:05
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: everything seems to be working properly. o.5 will be out in about 5-10 mins16:08
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: did you fix the issue with composite?16:08
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: I have no clue why this is happening. it certainly is not due to my code. maybe ask the Qt devs to fix it....16:09
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: hehe, we probably should just never talk about it again and hope none discovers it ;-)16:09
apache|mobile<-- totally lazy16:09
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: question: are the .desktop files ok? they are under the other/ subdirectory16:10
apache|mobileI think16:11
apache|mobileExec=gksu /usr/bin/kgrubeditor16:11
apache|mobileshould be16:11
apache|mobileExec=gksu kgrubeditor16:11
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: ok fixed. anything else?16:12
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: did you try it?16:12
apache|mobileI am not 100% sure this is going to work16:12
Tm_TScorpions - Hell-Cat16:12
* apache|mobile knows nothing about gksu16:12
Tm_Tapache|mobile: MEOWWW16:12
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: me neither16:13
apache|mobilevery good :)16:13
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: I don't even have gksu installed16:13
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: you could ask someone in #ubuntu-devel if this is going to work16:13
apache|mobilebut I just noticed, that I have to fiddle with it anyway16:14
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: it works16:14
apache|mobileotherwise the desktop files seem ok to me16:15
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: another question16:15
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: instalation path isn't correct16:15
apache|mobilefor kgrubeditor.desktop16:15
apache|mobileit goes into XDG/applications/kde416:16
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: why the hell isn't the scalable icon installed?16:16
apache|mobilewhile it should go into XDG/applictions16:16
apache|mobileinteressting question16:16
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: btw pics/CMakeLists.txt is missing a newline at the end16:17
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: fixed16:17
Artemis_Fowlinstall( FILES other/kgrubeditor.desktop  DESTINATION  ${XDG_APPS_INSTALL_DIR} )16:17
Artemis_Fowlinstall( FILES other/kgrubeditor-kde.desktop  DESTINATION  ${XDG_APPS_INSTALL_DIR} )16:17
Artemis_Fowlhow should I modify these lines in order for the .desktop files to go to XDG/applictions16:18
apache|mobilewell, maybe it just ends up in the wrong path because of kubuntu16:18
apache|mobilebecause these lines actually look totally right to me16:18
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: I think KDE's cmake modules modify XDG_APPS_INSTALL_DIR to go into XDG_APPS_INSTALL_DIR/kde416:20
apache|mobileso only way to fix this would be to reset it for kgrubeditor.desktop16:20
apache|mobilebut since I have no clue how to do this, right now, I would just leave it that way16:20
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: ok16:20
apache|mobiletechnically gnome should search XDG_APPS_INSTALL_DIR recursive anyway16:21
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: next issue is the scalable icon16:21
Riddellis anyone doing the Ubuntu Derivatives Team talk for Kubuntu?16:22
Tm_TRiddell: I was asked, so I could do it16:22
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: the name is wrong16:23
RiddellTm_T: it's just after your talk :)16:23
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: it should be a .svgz (i.e. gzip compressed)16:23
* ScottK prefers to think of Kubuntu as more of a companion than a derivative ...16:23
Tm_TRiddell: so it's natural to me to continue for that bit? ;)16:23
apache|mobilenot a plain .svg16:23
RiddellTm_T: I've no idea what would need to be said, probably just need to be in the channel to answer questions16:23
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: strange. in KDE's svn that's the naming scheme they use16:23
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: nah, they use svgz all over the place :D16:23
Tm_TRiddell: I will try to hang out there, yes :)16:23
apache|mobilesaves a lot of space16:23
apache|mobileand bandwith16:23
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: and how do I compress it? using Inkshape? my Graphics designer certainly can't make it today16:24
smarterhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=415311 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=427835 << Which one is open?16:24
ubotuDebian bug 415311 in wnpp "ITP: qdevelop -- A Development Environment for Qt4" [Wishlist,Open]16:24
smarterDebian BTS is so confusing...16:25
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: just do a "Save As..." and ensure the ending is .svgz16:25
apache|mobileinkscape should then automagically compress it16:25
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: omg I have installed so much crap in this system...I think it will blow sometime16:26
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: hehe, my HDD is filled with stuff needed to build/debug/test KDE 416:26
apache|mobilethere is like 1 gig left now :D16:26
apache|mobileeventually my system even refuses to start sometimes16:27
dasKreechI was always interested on how source code could be bigger than the programs16:27
Artemis_Fowlsince when was inkshape renamed to inkscape?16:27
Artemis_Fowli had to open the damn Synaptic manager to find this out.....16:28
apache|mobileit was named inkshape? Oo16:28
apache|mobileanoy nixternal16:28
apache|mobilenixternal: what issues were you having with k-d-s?16:28
apache|mobileall new word :D16:29
* apache|mobile adds that to his dict as 'annoyed ahoy'16:29
nixternalapache|mobile: wasn't just me, it was everyone and their mother...KDE 4 didn't work, and you couldn't use KDE 4 apps within KDE 3, including qtconfig-qt416:29
apache|mobileKDE 4 within KDE 316:30
apache|mobileany ideas why?16:30
smarterhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=415311 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=427835 << Which one is open?16:30
ubotuDebian bug 415311 in wnpp "ITP: qdevelop -- A Development Environment for Qt4" [Wishlist,Open]16:30
nixternalapache|mobile: kde4rc pointing at kde-user-profile seemed to be an issue, because commenting it out would at least allow you to log into KDE 4, but nothing worked until everything in kde4rc was removed16:32
nixternalthere are settings somewhere in the k-d-s stuff for kde4 that isn't working16:32
apache|mobileplasma wouldn't load16:33
apache|mobilebecause someone renamed TODO-plasma-appletsrc to plasma-appletsrc16:33
apache|mobilewhich makes plasma go wocka16:33
apache|mobileif userProfileMapFile=/etc/kde-user-profile is in kde4rc kde4 wouldn't start at all16:33
apache|mobilebut technically both issues should be fixed in latest revision of k-d-s16:34
apache|mobilenixternal: can you please try the version in bzr?16:34
apache|mobilenixternal: and please uncomment the makefile lines if it is working :)16:34
* apache|mobile luckily forgot that16:34
nixternalin a bit...gotta catch up on email, and then finish my homework16:34
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: v0.5 was successfully packaged and installed. now uploading16:42
Artemis_Fowlsource forge is too sluggish16:45
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: I can suggest launchpad ;-)16:45
apache|mobileor you could join the KDE extragear and use KDE for tarball hosting etc.16:46
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: launchpad provides SVN?16:46
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: nope, but Bazaar16:46
apache|mobilewhich is similar to GIT16:46
apache|mobilealternately you could use KDE SVN and do the release stuff and tarball hosting on launchpad16:47
apache|mobileLP can import SVN, so it wouldn't make much difference for a visitor who wants to browse the source the code in LP16:47
apache|mobilewb Nightrose16:48
Nightrosere :)16:49
* Nightrose cuddles apache|mobile16:49
apache|mobileNightrose: wie war die uni? :P16:50
Nightrose<- bOrked from hacking16:50
apache|mobileyou shouldn't do hacking with sven.... I imagine that super exhausting16:50
Nightrose*g* exactly16:50
Nightroseand we two hacking on some strange crypto stuff = fail :P16:50
ScottKArtemis_Fowl: Of course you should consider if it's important to host your Free Software project on a system that is also FOSS.  Neither LP nor Sourceforge qualify in that regard.16:51
apache|mobileNightrose: hehe16:51
apache|mobileNightrose: I created 443 SLOC yesterday16:51
Nightroseapache|mobile: wohooooooo16:51
Nightrosefor neon?16:51
Nightrosenifty :)16:52
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: ScottK is right on this, in case it is important I can suggest KDE16:52
Nightroseoh and sven of course always gets super excited about the most absurd crypto stuff - it´s actually quite funny ;-)16:52
ScottKapache|mobile: How many of the 443 were correct?16:53
apache|mobileNightrose: considering that I think sven might write code alan cox wouldn't like16:53
apache|mobileScottK: all, I am tha uberrubyhaXX0r :P16:53
Artemis_Fowlok. Upload to SourceForge is done. Following KDE-apps.org16:54
* ScottK touched about 50 lines yesterday, but only netted about 10 more than I started with and rolled a release candidate tarball. 16:55
Nightrose<- about 200 today16:55
Nightroseincluding about 50 that were worthless16:55
RiddellArtemis_Fowl: people still use sourceforge?16:56
apache|mobileRiddell: what's the alternative really?16:56
Artemis_FowlRiddell: not really :) but it provides me with something I need: SVN16:56
RiddellArtemis_Fowl: sourceforge does subversion?16:56
RiddellI thought they only had cvs16:56
nixternalthey do svn as well16:56
apache|mobilethey have SVN as long as KDE does16:57
Riddellwell well16:57
Tm_Tbut it's even buggier than their cvs which tend to be broken every time I need it16:57
apache|mobilegoogle code is also nice16:57
apache|mobileand it has SVN16:57
* apache|mobile likes google code hosting for small projects16:57
Riddellnothing is easier to use than launchpad, in my humble opinion16:58
Tm_Tthough I fail to use it too =)16:58
nosrednaekimRiddell » I think that probably you should put a disclaimer in there ;)16:59
* apache|mobile kicks sed16:59
apache|mobileI never liked that application16:59
apache|mobilenever will16:59
Riddellnosrednaekim: of what?16:59
nosrednaekimRiddell » you work for the comapny that makes it :)17:00
Riddellthere is that, but bzr really is the best revision control system and launchpad makes it oh so easy to host with it, I'm not just saying it to make my employer happy :)17:01
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobileL you may start whenever you want17:01
Riddell17:01 < dholbach> Next up is "MOTU Processes"  in #ubuntu-classroom17:01
Riddell9Kubuntu talk in 1 hour)17:02
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: please let me know when the .deb package is ready. I really need it17:02
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: for?17:02
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: oh and don't forget its tricky dependency: imagemagick17:03
apache|mobileRiddell: I guess we can throw kgrubeditor in the PPA neverminding whether it gets a freeze exception?17:03
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: it depends on imagemagick?17:03
Riddellapache|mobile: of course17:03
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: yeah...in order to decompress the splash images17:03
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: it can work without it but if there is no imagemagick, you get no splash image creation/preview17:04
apache|mobileArtemis_Fowl: it only requires 'convert'?17:06
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: y17:06
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: and of course gzip17:07
Artemis_Fowlapache|mobile: but you told me there is no need for such a dependency17:07
apache|mobilewell, gzip is a baseutil so I don't need to depend on it17:07
apache|mobileright :D17:07
Riddellmzungu: can you do the question forwarding for Tm_T's talk in an hour?17:08
Tm_Tpretty pretty please?17:08
mzungujust going to eat for now17:08
Tm_Tsame here17:09
Tm_Tand coffee, a lot17:09
mzungu(ugali, sukuma-wiki, and nyama ;) )17:09
Artemis_Fowlomg. kde-apps is stupid. KGRUBEditor completely disappeared (you could only access it using the direct URL) and it did not appear until I updated it for second time......17:11
* Tm_T is getting very nervous17:17
Tm_Tso time to play some guitar =)17:17
* apache|mobile gives Tm_T another cup of tea17:17
jussi01Tm_T: calm down, its all good :)17:37
Tm_Tit is NOT17:40
Tm_Tin my age nothing is good17:40
jussi01Tm_T: hehe, yes it is, nothing to stress about17:42
Tm_Tbah, I can't even stress peacefully these days ;))17:42
* Tm_T hugs jussi01 17:42
* jussi01 hugs Tm_T 17:42
jussi01Tm_T: go play a song on your guitar for me ok?17:43
Tm_Tcan't, already bleeding in fingertips17:43
jussi01Tm_T: Play Collective Soul - Run17:43
Tm_Tdunno that17:44
Tm_TI crawled thru Blue Oyster Cult album Secret Treaties17:44
jussi01Tm_T: go look it up, great song :)17:45
buzhas anyone got a laptop with a highres screen? on mine, okular shows pdf way too small17:45
buzbut acroread is perfect17:45
Tm_Tbuz: laptop is needed for...17:45
nosrednaekimbuz » 1440x900?17:45
buznosrednaekim: yes (mine is 1920x1200 at 15")17:45
jussi01Tm_T: http://www.azchords.com/c/collectivesoul-tabs-841/run-tabs-103448.html17:46
buzTm_T: because desktop lcd generally all have the same dpi17:46
Tm_Tbuz: I don't have lcd, but I force strange dpi with my 19" CRT17:46
buzwell i'm more inclined to believe okular ignores the dpi17:46
Tm_Tbuz: could be possibility17:47
buzbecause acrobat scales according to dpi, whereas okular is always off the same factor17:47
buzsame in kpdf, so it's probably a poppler bug17:48
* Tm_T is happy with kpdf in his whacky 1792x1344 resolution17:49
mzunguRiddell, Tm_T, I may have to duck - we've just lost power here (ah! the joys of africa!)17:49
Tm_Tmzungu: roger17:49
jussi01mzungu: nm, Ive got it, if need be17:49
Tm_Tjussi01: I was about to ask you, thanks son17:49
buzyou run a 19" crt at that resolution? wow17:50
Tm_Tbuz: yes?17:50
buzdid not know that was possible17:50
mzungugreat - hopefully, it will return - but thought i'd better let you know ;)17:50
jussi01mzungu: good luck :)17:50
Tm_Tbuz: 75 Hz and colours I haven't seen on any LCD yet :(17:50
Tm_Tbuz: reasons I'm still with CRT17:50
buzwell yes17:50
buzbut they need too much space17:50
buzplus i get headache at below 100hz17:50
Tm_Tthat's not a problem here17:51
Tm_Tand I'm used to have 60 Hz monitors17:51
buzi cant stand 60hz for 5min even17:51
buzi can live with 85 for a while17:51
buzbut not for too long17:51
Tm_TI don't notice any flickering here17:52
Tm_Tand eyes are good with these settings, but if you make me read some shiny white paper in bright light, I'll kill you after I'm gone blind and bleeding17:52
Tm_Tbuz: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png17:53
Tm_Tugly, I know, and don't care, it's best thus far for me17:53
buzis there any way to get the qt3 apps to inherit kde4 colors?17:53
Tm_Tmmmm, no idea17:53
nosrednaekimbuz » not that I have seen17:53
Tm_TI mainly use KDE3 still17:53
buzi would like the dark kde4 style but it's useless without matching kde3 colors17:54
buznosrednaekim: there's a setting in system settings but it does not work17:54
nosrednaekimyeah.... it works for gtk apps though17:54
buzi have occasionally seen kde3 apps adopt kde4 colors17:56
buzbut damn me if i can figure out how to force it17:56
Riddell** Kubuntu talk about to begin in #ubuntu-classroom17:58
buznosrednaekim: the checkbox in colors dialog does not even remember the setting upon restarts of system settings17:59
buzprobably does not work because of that17:59
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jussi01Tm_T: when do you want the questions to start?18:09
Tm_Tjussi01: pretty much rightaway18:09
Riddelljussi01: paste who the question is from too18:11
jussi01Riddell: sure18:11
Tm_Tjussi01: hrr, quick rolling18:13
jussi01hehe, sorry18:13
jussi01Tm_T: yoou want to next me when you are done?18:13
Tm_Tjussi01: nah, just make sure I manage to answer, or someone else18:14
coreymon77hi people18:14
jussi01Tm_T: best if you next me ;)18:19
coreymon77thats better18:20
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Tm_Tjussi01: going mostly fine thanks, but sure if needed I poke18:21
coreymon77so, we have a meeting tomorrow huh?18:21
coreymon77i might actually be able to make this one18:21
coreymon77seeing as its at a sane time for me18:21
Tm_Tapache|mobile: MOOOH!18:23
polopolohello all18:47
Tm_Tpolopolo: welcome :)18:47
polopoloIs this the place to ask if something can be added on a package?18:47
mhbhi folks, hope you're keeping Kubuntu rocking while I'm really busy with school18:48
polopoloin the ubuntu-restricted-extras a package is included called msttcorefonts18:48
nosrednaekimmhb » yep :)18:49
mhbadvice to you: if you want to learn something really hard, go for set theory18:49
polopolobut in kubuntu-restricted-extras, it's not, is it possible to include it18:49
polopolofor the next version after hardy?18:49
Tm_Tmaaaaaah I'm frozen18:49
ScottKThat's not a bad suggestion.18:49
cheguevarayeah it makes sense18:50
steveireHi. Regarding the 3.5.9 packages in ppa. Are they going to get into a more official and supported repo at any time?18:50
Tm_Tsteveire: see kubuntu.org18:50
Tm_TI wonder how they are unsupported now18:51
steveireTm_T: That's what I'm talking about18:51
steveireIt's in a ppa rather than anywhere else (signed)18:51
ScottKsteveire: The only potential target for more official would be gutsy-backports and that's equally unsupported.18:51
_StefanS_what was that change you need to do in order to get kde4 to work... something in the startup script18:51
Tm_Tsteveire: heh, IMO that's best support, lp ftw (true signing would be good)18:51
nosrednaekim_StefanS_ » nothing I know of..it should just work18:52
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: right, but not if you updated with the latest packages18:53
_StefanS_nosrednaekim: userProfileMapFile=/etc/kde-user-profile should be commented out or something18:53
steveireThere used to be a kubuntu.org repo crypto signed for this stuff.18:54
steveireI bring up support because the page says 'These packages are not well supported.'18:56
jussi01Tm_T: Im off, catch you in a bit!19:02
Tm_Tjussi01: thanks son :))19:02
jussi01no probs dad :)19:02
NightroseTm_T: well done mom ;-)19:03
smarterHow can I get my qdevelop package in Debian?19:07
Tm_TNightrose: well done my own grave that is, my dear child?19:08
Nightrose;-) nah19:08
nixternalman, there were so many duplicate kde4 bugs, and kde4 bugs created almost a year ago....cleaned up quite a few though19:20
nixternalnow it is time to work on homework!19:21
nixternalyay! I hate database homework!19:21
nixternalactually, I hate functional dependencies19:22
nixternaloh well, gotta get it done within the hour though...back in a bit19:22
jjessenixternal: still snowing in chi town?19:26
nareshovneed help with kde4 startup, .xsession-error has something in it19:30
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nixternaljjesse: hasn't snowed in chicago at all...we haven't had any snow in over a week now...just cold20:13
cheguevaranareshov, whast the something20:14
nosrednaekimcheguevara » he figured it out.20:14
nosrednaekimit was the k-d-s again <_<20:14
cheguevaraoh kk :P20:14
cheguevarayeah that what i was thinking :P20:14
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jjessenixternal: must be nice to not have snow in a week.... we are still gettting snow... they are concerned the grand river might flood20:18
jjessewhen the snow melts20:18
nixternalya, we have the salt creek, dupage river, and the des plaines river all threatening to flood when the thaw occurs20:19
nixternalthankfully we live on a huge hill, so flooding doesn't bother us20:19
jjesseyeah i don't live near the river but there was a big story on it on saturday20:20
Tm_Tyay, I got doctor for monday <320:38
Tm_Tmy things are moving forward very quickly20:39
jjesseyay for doctor appoitnments20:44
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ugaoh my... (not worksafe, but... related to ubuntu) http://www.frikipedia.es/images/1/1e/Ubuntu_5.11.jpg20:45
ugafrikipedia is a website emulating wikipedia, but in a sarcastic style20:45
uga(translated, it'd be "freakypedia")20:47
Tm_Tjjesse: indeed, especially for this kind of ones20:48
smarteruncyclopedia rocks20:48
jjessegood luck w/ the doctor then20:48
Tm_Tjjesse: thanks :)20:49
Tm_Tjjesse: prolly will be a start for a year(s) of therapy so it's good20:49
jjesseTm_T: i hope he/she can figure out how best to help you out20:49
Tm_Tjjesse: all she has to do is to get me further times :-P20:50
buzmy experience has been that unless you go to a specialist doctor, you know more than him after 3 hours of googling20:50
Tm_Tand put her name in to one paper20:50
Tm_Tbuz: yup, glad these doctors listen me, not just tell me what I'm supposed to feel20:50
buzwell i make em listen :P20:50
smarterhttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Uncyclux :}20:50
Tm_Tbasicly they now verify I do have thing called "asperger syndrome" or they keep wondering if it is, both are good in my case20:51
jjesseisn't that often times described as functional autism?20:52
buzwell its on the autism scale20:52
buzas for functioning, that would probably depend on the individual20:52
Tm_TI do have one of those hard to detect ones, as being learnt lots of things to "do by hard thinking" but meh, tired to bang my head against the wall too often20:53
jjessei think i heard that a lof IT people have some form of aspergers20:53
buzwell it's somewhat hard to properly segment, some are "just" shy and introvert20:54
Tm_Tbuz: do I look shy? =)20:54
buzirc does not count20:55
Tm_Tbuz: ok, you haven't seen me "IRL" ;)20:55
Tm_Tin my case it's more about what I see and understand and how I see and understand20:56
buzi dont have much trust in shrinks though20:56
Tm_Tme neither, that's why I had to discover things myself20:57
Tm_Tnow I know when I have to say "no that's not it"20:57
buzyeah, when i go to a doctor i usually demand to run test x and z to rule out or confirm what i'm not sure about20:58
Tm_Tto me it's not about am I sick or not, it's more about are my features acceptable by society or not20:58
buznot being able to figure that out does point in the autism spectrum, yes20:58
buzthen again society is a bitch to figure out so...20:59
Tm_Theh, I have been trying to fit into society and "normal way of thinking" most of my life, I can't so time to make sure noone is trying to force me anymore20:59
Tm_Tbuz: agreed =)20:59
Tm_Tshame this all took over 100 years to me to realise21:01
apacheloggerRiddell: can you please nuke kgrubeditor from the new queue21:01
Tm_Tapachelogger: hey, was it you or who working with KDE3 -> KDE4 migration assistant?21:02
* apachelogger defenitely thinks dput should ask which configuration to use21:02
apacheloggerTm_T: none did yet21:02
buzmhh weird21:02
Tm_Tapachelogger: but you have been thinking it atleast?21:03
buzi somehow managed to "replace" kopete statuts icons with colored quadrats21:03
cheguevaraapachelogger, are you gonna re-upload k-d-s with kde 4 settings again?21:03
Tm_Tbuz: shot please21:03
hungerAre there kde 3.5.9 debs yet?21:04
buzhunger: yes21:04
Tm_Thunger: are21:04
cheguevarathey are in hardy repos and a ppa21:04
apacheloggercheguevara: only if nixternal gives his ok21:04
apacheloggerTm_T: pretty much so, I geuss21:04
hungerAh, cool, I already have them installed!21:04
hungerJust need to restart X;-) Stupid me.21:05
Tm_Tapachelogger: ok, because I think my summer project will somewhat "touch" this area, being migration assistant from Windows and others to Kubuntu21:05
hungermaybe I should switch to bigger fonts.21:05
Tm_Tapachelogger: so, fiddling with same settings in the end21:05
buzTm_T: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8268/kopetesnapshotqg0.png21:06
Tm_Tbuz: wow, err, how?! I mean, wow, err, wwow21:07
buzi have no f* idea21:07
buzi was playing around with themeing21:07
apacheloggerTonio_: is there a reason why kdesudo-kde4 wasn't archived on revu?21:07
buzand suddenly that happened21:07
buzit actually works that way, just looks weird21:08
apacheloggerjpatrick: please have a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kgrubeditor21:08
jpatrickapachelogger: you have two: kde4-wrapper-creation: one in rules and the other in cdbs/kde.mk21:09
Tm_Tbuz: but, err, that shouldn't happen, you fiddled with icon theme?21:09
apacheloggerjpatrick: read comment in rules :)21:09
buzwell i'm not sure whether theme manager does that21:09
buzas for the other icons, they seem to be fine21:09
apacheloggerjpatrick: ?21:10
Tonio_apachelogger: because a second person needs to approve :)21:11
Tonio_apachelogger: feel free to approve it ;)21:11
apacheloggerTonio_: it already is21:11
jpatrickapachelogger: for crappy upstream tar names :)21:11
buzsounds like i maybe should reinstall hardy from scratch21:11
buzmay just do that with the next iso21:11
apacheloggerjpatrick: well, difference is what we like :P21:11
jpatrickapachelogger: +1 from me, looks good21:13
* jpatrick logs into revu21:13
* apachelogger creates a FFE request21:13
jpatrick"Feature Freeze is in effect, your packages won't get reviewed."21:13
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apacheloggerhaha, aparently they do :P21:14
jpatrickapachelogger: just upload and let Riddell do the approving :)21:14
apacheloggerjpatrick: no exception request?21:15
jpatrickapachelogger: T0n!o didn't need one, but that was kdesudo...21:15
Riddellkdesudo is in main21:15
apacheloggerRiddell: so don't nuke kgrubeditor but give it an approve :D21:16
Tonio_jpatrick: you didn't want me to read this ? ;)21:16
Tonio_T0n!o... ^^21:16
apacheloggerjpatrick is just too leet21:16
jpatrick!leet | Tonio_21:17
ubotuTonio_: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.21:17
jpatrickTonio_: didn't want to distrib21:17
Tonio_apachelogger: well technically, kdesudo isn't a new feature, it just fixes a kde4 issue -> no way to graphically start applications with root permissions...21:18
Tonio_apachelogger: and btw, it is a kubuntu native development somehow, so it's specific21:18
apacheloggertechnically kgrubeditor is a bugfix release for qgrubeditor21:19
apacheloggerjust exchanged the q with a k I'd say :P21:19
* apachelogger grabs something to drink before he dehydrates21:20
Tonio_apachelogger: hum, that can be debated....21:25
Tonio_qgrubeditor works, kdesu-kde4 doesn't :)21:25
apacheloggerwell, kdesu works21:26
apacheloggerjust not as well21:26
Tonio_apachelogger: on kde4 ?21:27
Tonio_apachelogger: last time I tested, it didn't work at all....21:27
apacheloggerbuilt with sudo support21:27
apacheloggerTonio_: well, we fixed that 3 days after 4.0.0 release I think21:27
Tonio_apachelogger: oki ;)21:34
Tonio_apachelogger: well isn't that any better to have kdesudo ready for hardy ?21:34
Tonio_I think it is pretty good news, imho :)21:34
apacheloggerTonio_: oh, it is :)21:35
Tonio_apachelogger: yeah just the way we uploaded isn't nice iyho :)21:39
Tonio_apachelogger: sorry for this :)21:39
apacheloggerhonestly, I don't care, as long as I have kdesudo in hardy21:41
Tonio_apachelogger: well kde4 version isn't perfect, but works21:44
Tonio_apachelogger: I don't plan to work on it before hardy is released, and will have hardy+1 plans for it21:44
Tonio_atm kdesudo kde3 is more important imho21:45
oloughlin75has anybody used the amarok2 preview?21:53
buzi tried21:58
buzwould not wrk21:58
oloughlin75i wont bother than21:58
apacheloggerworks for me21:58
oloughlin75apachelogger: good enough to use it every day?21:59
apacheloggerotherwise it wouldn't be a technical preview21:59
oloughlin75then i wont bother :)21:59
nareshovWhat is knotify4 and why does it use up a lot of memory? :|22:02
crimsun_Tonio_: ok, looking now.  (Still travelling)22:32
Riddellstdin: about?23:01
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blueyedAny opinions on bug 118939?23:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118939 in kdelibs "Apport does not get used for crashing KDE programs" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11893923:43
Riddellblueyed: KDE has its own crash handler23:45

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