[00:00] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ no problem, just need some info first
[00:00] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ lspci |grep -i vga
[00:00] <FuriousMojo> I have an ATI X1550 PCI-e
[00:00] <FuriousMojo> ok
[00:00] <xerxes1358> Is it possible once in Live Session (LiveDVD) do a net install ? anyone experience with this ?
[00:01] <FuriousMojo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV505 [Radeon X1550 Series]
[00:01] <the-erm> xerxes1358: I've never done a net install with kubuntu, usually you just install, and reboot, then update.
[00:02] <FuriousMojo> sub?
[00:02] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ yo, sorry doing work stuff too, ok, pastebin the output of xrandr -q as well
[00:03] <FuriousMojo> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 400, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1024
[00:03] <FuriousMojo> no problem
[00:03] <sub[t]rnl> thats all it shows?
[00:03] <FuriousMojo> default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[00:04] <FuriousMojo> 1280x1024      76.0*
[00:04] <unagi_> prince_jammys: you still here?
[00:04] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ !pastebin it for me
[00:04] <FuriousMojo> yes, and the other res. which don't have a start
[00:04] <sub[t]rnl> !pastebin > FuriousMojo
[00:05] <FuriousMojo> gotcha
[00:05] <FuriousMojo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56563/plain/
[00:05] <sub[t]rnl> plug in your second monitor and turn it on, then run xrandr -q again
[00:06] <FuriousMojo> :-(
[00:06] <FuriousMojo> It's plugged in, on
[00:06] <FuriousMojo> just mirroing at the moment
[00:06] <FuriousMojo> I'd like to drag content to it
[00:06] <sub[t]rnl> ok, no problem
[00:06] <sub[t]rnl> wait 1
[00:06] <FuriousMojo> k
[00:07] <unagi_> any idea why my side buttons are reversed?
[00:07] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ go ahead and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and in Section "Screen", under SubSection "Display" add 	Virtual 2048 2048
[00:08] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ alt + f2 kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you need the hand holding :p)
[00:08] <FuriousMojo> I found out about that file myself earlier...
[00:08] <FuriousMojo> let me undo my previous changes
[00:09] <sub[t]rnl> back that up first bro
[00:09] <FuriousMojo> will do
[00:09] <FuriousMojo> I did before :-)
[00:09] <sub[t]rnl> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.backup}
[00:09] <FuriousMojo> nice
[00:09] <FuriousMojo> 1 sec
[00:10] <unagi_> what maps the mouse buttons in kubuntu
[00:11] <sub[t]rnl> !mouse | unagi_
[00:11] <ubotu> unagi_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[00:11] <unagi_> that doesnt answer my question sub[t]rnl my side buttons are reversed
[00:11] <FuriousMojo> ok done
[00:12] <sub[t]rnl> unagi_➜ check your xorg.conf and Option          "ZAxisMapping"
[00:12] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ have the virtual line added?
[00:12] <FuriousMojo> Yes
[00:12] <sub[t]rnl> ah, you registered.. hehe ok pm's
[00:12] <FuriousMojo> :-)
[00:14] <unagi_> i dont have zaxismapping sub[t]rnl
[00:17] <israel> hi there
[00:17] <Liono> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=699029  need help. any one arround to check it
[00:18] <unagi_> can anyone tell me what maps out mouse keys in ubuntu?
[00:18] <sub[t]rnl> !mouse | unagi_
[00:18] <ubotu> unagi_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[00:18] <sub[t]rnl> (it tells you in the page, I just read it)
[00:20] <unagi_> sub[t]rnl: my imwheelrc is configged correctly, the actual button is mapped wrong
[00:20] <unagi_> ie mouse 6 is 7 and 7 is 6
[00:21] <unagi_> am i missing something else?
[00:22] <FuriousMojo> sub, no go man
[00:22] <unagi_> brb
[00:22] <FuriousMojo> I could barely see my mouse cursor
[00:23] <FuriousMojo> I had to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after rebooting
[00:23] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ Add the virtual line again, the pastebin your xorg.conf so I can look at it
[00:23] <FuriousMojo> sure
[00:24] <unagi_> sub[t]rnl: ok man i dont get it
[00:24] <sub[t]rnl> unagi_➜ :/ me either.
[00:25] <unagi_> sub[t]rnl: i didnt have zaxismapping so i added it with 6 and 7, didnt work, switched it to 7 and 6, didnt work
[00:25] <unagi_> sub[t]rnl: so what in that link am i suppose to be looking at
[00:25] <biovore> I think mouse wheel are normaly 4 and 5
[00:25] <unagi_> not the wheel, the side buttons
[00:25] <sub[t]rnl> they are
[00:25] <biovore> ah...
[00:25] <sub[t]rnl> unagi_➜ don't know, sorry
[00:25] <biovore> might need to remap mouse buttons..
[00:26] <biovore> what mouse you got?
[00:26] <unagi_> logitech z220
[00:26] <unagi_> im trying to figure out how to remap
[00:26] <unagi_> everyone keeps pointing me to !mouse
[00:26] <biovore> xmodmap -e 'sadfasdfasdf'
[00:26] <biovore> google on xmodmap mouse
[00:26] <dwm_> Running xev from a terminal window lets you click in the window it opens and see what mouse button is what
[00:26] <unagi_> isnt that a keyboar dremap?
[00:27] <biovore> I have a logtech Mx518 here I got it remaped forrectly
[00:27] <biovore> does mouse as well
[00:27] <unagi_> dwm_: xev doesnt return a button which i find odd
[00:27] <biovore> the -e
[00:27] <biovore> evdev debug..
[00:27] <FuriousMojo> I guess the registration didn't stick for PM'ing
[00:27] <FuriousMojo> sub, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56565/
[00:27] <biovore> have to authenticate avery time you connect to server..
[00:27] <dwm_> You may have the number of buttons limited to low in your xorg file
[00:27] <FuriousMojo> how do I address you and make it turn red like you do mine?  is there an easy way?
[00:28] <dwm_> In one system I have buttons up to around 18 just with a simple logitech 4 button wheel mouse
[00:28] <FuriousMojo> I'm using Konversation
[00:28] <sub[t]rnl> FuriousMojo➜ looks good from here.  just do sub[tab]
[00:28] <unagi_> i dont have buttons declared
[00:28] <nosrednaekim> !tab
[00:28] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:28] <FuriousMojo> nice, thanks
[00:28] <unagi_> should i add Options "buttons" "7"?
[00:29] <fermions> hello,everyone
[00:29] <FuriousMojo> ok, so the file looks good.  Does my vid card need to be returned for an nvidia to work with Linux?
[00:29] <nosrednaekim> hey fermions
[00:29] <fermions> I got a problem,guys
[00:29] <unagi_> lemme try that brb
[00:29] <fermions> i can't get in desktop after logging in with KDE mode
[00:30] <fermions> i can only get in the save mode
[00:30] <unagi_> with buttons declared xev still doesnt report a button number
[00:30] <nosrednaekim> fermions » you can't log into kde?
[00:30] <fermions> right
[00:31] <dwm_> Lemme see if I can post the relevant section of my xorg.conf
[00:31] <fermions> i tried to remove kde
[00:31] <dwm_> Section "InputDevice"
[00:31] <fermions> and reinstall it
[00:31] <dwm_>         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
[00:31] <dwm_>         Driver          "mouse"
[00:31] <nosrednaekim> fermions » ok, try "mv .kde .kde-backup" on the command line
[00:31] <dwm_>         Option          "CorePointer"
[00:31] <dwm_>         Option          "Device"        "/dev/input/mice"
[00:31] <dwm_>         Option          "Protocol"      "ExplorerPS/2"
[00:31] <dwm_> #       Option          "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
[00:31] <dwm_>         Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "false"
[00:31] <dwm_> EndSection
[00:31] <fermions> ok
[00:31] <biovore> !pastebin
[00:31] <unagi_> oooooh now it does
[00:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:31] <unagi_> its imwheel that isnt showing it
[00:32] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[00:32] <nosrednaekim> fermions » then try loggin back in
[00:32] <unagi_> i dunno why
[00:32] <dwm_> It likes to have ExplorerPS/2 as the option for that line
[00:32] <fermions> i am gonna try it now
[00:32] <unagi_> !imwheel
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imwheel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:33] <fermions> ok,brb
[00:34] <x_link> Hi all Kubuntu-uers =)
[00:34] <x_link> Will KDE 3.5.9 come to the repo?
[00:35] <unagi_> OMG the buttons are still backwards!
[00:35] <Tm_T> x_link: will be in kubuntu.org when done
[00:35] <biovore> unagi_: http://web.mit.edu/answers/xwindows/xwindows_xmodmap.html
[00:36] <xerxes1358> Can someone help me through a INTERNET install of the Ubuntu ?
[00:36] <x_link> Tm_T: Alright, thanks man!
[00:37] <x_link> Tm_T: You think that we need to wait a long time?
[00:37] <x_link> Must go now
[00:37] <x_link> Good night
[00:37] <Dr_willis> !install
[00:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:45] <Zombocom> is there a way to get an animated destkop?
[00:45] <Zombocom> other than running the screensaver on it
[00:45] <Zombocom> like i  have an animated .gif that I want to use
[00:46] <Dr_willis> Zombocom,  not that i have ever seen.
[00:46] <Arwen> Zombocom, you can run MPlayer in a loop and have it draw to your desktop
[00:46] <Zombocom> damn
[00:46] <Dr_willis> I guess ya could also use tha web page desktop feature.
[00:46] <Dr_willis> But gee . how far do you want to bend overbacwards for an animated wallpaper.. that you will rarely see
[00:47] <Arwen> ^^
[00:47] <Arwen> animated desktops are EYECANCER
[00:47] <sca344> newbie here....
[00:47] <Flare183> ok then.....
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> welcome sca344
[00:48] <fermions> well,i am back,but with xfce's desktop
[00:48] <sca344> can someone tell me how to convert avi to dvd format with avidmux and burn it with k3b
[00:48] <fermions> hello sca344
[00:48] <sca344> thanks for the welcome.
[00:49] <fermions> nosrednakekim,it didn't work,man
[00:50] <sca344> anyone have a reference where i can read about it?
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> sca344 » I think you just say tell the Video to go to DVD and the audio to be copied
[00:50] <fermions> i installed xfce desktop and use startx under recovery mode
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> fermions » ok, try starting kde, but when it fails,go to ctrl+alt+f2, log in and run "cat .xsession-errors" to see what went wrong
[00:52] <fermions> what's this,budd?
[00:52] <fermions> cat .xsession-errors?
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> fermions » sees what made kde blow up :)
[00:52] <sca344> im not seeing that.. i will look again
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> .xsession-errors is a file
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> in your home DIR
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> sca344 » its on the left side of the UI
[00:53] <fermions> good,brb
[00:54] <sca344> i have the settings on the left side.. but under format it saves it as a avi
[00:55] <Dr_willis> to make a dvd video from an avi file. i normall use that devdvd program
[00:55] <Dr_willis> i thonk thats its name
[00:55] <Dr_willis> !find devded
[00:55] <ubotu> Package/file devded does not exist in gutsy
[00:55] <Dr_willis> devede - program to create video DVDs
[00:55] <Dr_willis> i never can spellit right
[01:00] <Zombocom> how do I
[01:00] <Zombocom> view dvds
[01:00] <Zombocom> in linux
[01:00] <Tm_T> !dvd | Zombocom
[01:00] <ubotu> Zombocom: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:03] <sca344> thanks dr willis
[01:03] <sca344> its working
[01:03] <Dr_willis> i set it to make the .iso file for the video that i then burn
[01:04] <sca344> k
[01:04] <sca344> dr willis
[01:04] <Dr_willis> but you may just want to have it generate the dvd files.. or not. ;) depends on what you want
[01:04] <sca344> remember the name like DVD but put a e after each letter
[01:04] <sca344> i am having it create the dvd files
[01:05] <sca344> is doing the iso faster?
[01:05] <sca344> its only on like 5%
[01:05] <Dr_willis> the time to make a .iso from the files is minimal
[01:05] <will00> ello, im havin an issue with amarok, anyone feel like givin me a hand?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> it proberly takes it 2-3 min to make the .iso
[01:06] <Dr_willis> but its easier to just tell k3b to burn an iso image. then selecting the files
[01:06] <Dr_willis> and k3b would have to make the iso anyway
[01:06] <arcticpenguin380> will using JFSs improve speed
[01:07] <will00> i try to start amarok, and the process starts, but the specific window with my playlist and everything doesnt start
[01:07] <will00> anyone got any ideas?
[01:08] <valery> hello. I need help. i must hide cursor, where X11 load. But I can't do it. help please.
[01:09] <will00> does anyone know what would make a process start but the window not open
[01:13] <fermions> i am back,guys
[01:13] <Tm_T> will00: well, do you have amarok icon next to clock
[01:13] <will00> niet
[01:13] <will00> no
[01:13] <Tm_T> interesting
[01:14] <will00> itll start and show up in the process table, but beyond that it doesnt appear anywhere
[01:17] <sca344> dr willis so in devede make the avi an iso file?
[01:20] <sca344> another thing,. in kubuntu.. how do i make it where everything doesnt get dark? if i havent clicked on it
[01:23] <oloughlin75> After I installed compiz and restarted, I lost keyboard and mouse (but i could still move the mouse but not click)
[01:29] <bfrog> how come cups isn't seeing my printer on my other computer
[01:30] <bfrog> it did just fine when I was running archlinux
[01:30] <bfrog> did kubuntu do something stupid with cups? I thought I read something about that awhile back
[01:30] <sca344> what is a good image editor with linux?
[01:31] <bfrog> wtf
[01:31] <bfrog> why'd ubuntu turn off the network sharing
[01:32] <Flare183> @lart bfrog
[01:33] <bfrog> of all the stupid things to do...
[01:33] <bfrog> well whatever
[01:33] <rdvon> why is kde 4 so buggy!
[01:33] <xerxes1358> Hello
[01:33] <rdvon> I need help.. I deleted the window manager on the bottom, and now I can't get it back.
[01:33] <rdvon> :\
[01:35] <rdvon> I forget what it's called, it's the app that shows all the windows you have. I tried right clicking the task bar but It doesn't work.. Settings doesn't help either
[01:40] <fermions> hi,guys,how long does it take to see you desktop from restart?
[01:40] <xerxes1358> How do I install LATEX on Kubuntu ?
[01:40] <fermions> it takes long down here
[01:41] <xerxes1358> I dont find it in application finder
[01:41] <Dr_willis_> !latex
[01:41] <ubotu> tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX
[01:42] <rdvon> May I ask why they even released kde 4?
[01:42] <Dr_willis_> !find latex
[01:42] <ubotu> Found: auctex, dblatex, latex-beamer, latex-ucs, latex-ucs-contrib (and 55 others)
[01:42] <Dr_willis_> rdvon,  its for developers to use as a base to get  stuff going.
[01:42] <Dr_willis_> rdvon,  it was not intended for   the masses.. wait for 4.1 for that. :) or 4.2 or 4.999999999
[01:43] <xerxes1358> Dr
[01:43] <xerxes1358> Dr_willis thanks
[01:44] <Tm_T> 4.1 <3
[01:44] <oloughlin75> has anyone used lg3d?
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> its proberly  not in the menys where you were looking - since its more of shell/command line tool perhaps.
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> I havent used TeX in years
[01:47] <xerxes1358> i installed MS true font type. How do I enable them?
[01:47] <rdvon> ...still buggy. the zoom out feature doesn't even work :(
[01:48] <xerxes1358> is it normal for kopete to crash on when you try to load MSN accounts ? maybe there is a bug ?
[01:48] <Dr_willis_> they should be enabled if you installed them.
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> xerxes1358- I think there is a known bug, though I haven't encountered it myself
[01:50] <oloughlin75> pidgin rules again
[01:50] <oloughlin75> Dr_willis_: have you used lg3d?
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> never heard of it.
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> !info lg3d
[01:51] <ubotu> Package lg3d does not exist in gutsy
[01:51] <oloughlin75> java 3d desktop environment
[01:51] <xerxes1358> I keep getting an error when trying to install anything.
[01:51] <oloughlin75> !find lg3d
[01:51] <xerxes1358> possibly there was a problem with downloading bla bla
[01:51] <ubotu> Package/file lg3d does not exist in gutsy
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> oloughlin75,  wasent that what sun came out with like 2 yeras ago>
[01:51] <oloughlin75> Dr_willis_: probably
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> I recall some live cd with it.. and  it wasent very goodl :) but that was some time ago
[01:52] <oloughlin75> yeah i think so
[01:52] <rdvon> Is there a program that will download podcasts and convert them to a given format? (i.e. .3gp2)
[01:52] <oloughlin75> im downloading it though =)
[01:52] <Dr_willis_> compiz has sort of gotten everyones attention. There was that mettis (sp?) thing - that looked better then compiz in ways.. but i aint heard of it in  ages either
[01:52] <oloughlin75> willis
[01:52] <oloughlin75> i install compiz and all was fine
[01:53] <oloughlin75> i restarted
[01:53] <oloughlin75> then my keyboard didnt work and mouse clicks didnt work
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxsUKX6xXyE metisse  in work
[01:53] <oloughlin75> it could move the mouse though
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> !find metisse
[01:54] <ubotu> Package/file metisse does not exist in gutsy
[01:54] <oloughlin75> do you know what might have gone wrong?
[01:55] <Dr_willis_> I dont mess with compiz much.   all i know about compiz i learned from the.........
[01:55] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[01:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:55] <Dr_willis_> site :)
[01:56] <oloughlin75> iv tried installing twice
[01:56] <oloughlin75> both have given me problems
[01:56] <oloughlin75> first my mouse went invisible
[01:56] <oloughlin75> now it stopped responding
[01:56] <Dr_willis_> now you know why i dont mess with compiz much.
[01:57] <Dr_willis_> I will admint - ive not had many issues with it.
[01:57] <Arwen> I don't mess with compiz because a software 3d desktop kind of kills the point :-)
[01:58] <Tm_T> I don't mess with it just because I don't need it :))
[02:02] <ryanakca> Hmm. For the website, would you rather have a button with gradient that doesn't resize (bad accessability!), or a good looking button that does resize, but doesn't have a gradient ?
[02:02] <ryanakca> crap, wrong channel, sorry
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> yeah! another ubuntu dell!
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> one of every size: 15,14 and 13
[02:31] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: where's my "XXS" ?
[02:32] <default_op> hi all.  what's the solution to stop firefox trying to open php files on websites?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> eeepc
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:32] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: no it's not :((
[02:32] <biovore> default_op: setup apache correctly
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T » the eepc isn't extra-extra small?
[02:33] <Hydrogen> hmm
[02:33] <Hydrogen> tm_t--
[02:34] <Tm_T> !away > Hydrogen
[02:34] <Hydrogen> dood
[02:34] <Hydrogen> I wasn't away
[02:34] <Tm_T> 0433.10 -!- HydroGONE is now known as Hydrogen ;((
[02:34] <Hydrogen> I was pretending to be a watery shape
[02:34] <Hydrogen> and I have bad spelling
[02:35] <Tm_T> you do indeed <3
[02:35] <Hydrogen> <3
[02:40] <default_op> biovore: no I mean dfirefox tries to open php files from remote site
[02:40] <default_op> biovore: rather then wait for ht esite to deliver the scripts results
[02:40] <biovore> default_op: yes.. thats do to a webserver miss configuration.. the php is server side.. not client
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> default_op- PHP scripts normally send regular HTML content
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> The browser has nothing to do with it
[02:41] <biovore> default_op: webserver is supose to run the php and send its output to the client..
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> The browser can't even really know that PHP generated the HTML
[02:43] <arcticpenguin380> did kubuntu patch that kernel vurablity?
[02:44] <biovore> yup
[02:45] <prince_jammys> default_op: what happens when you go here www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=616183
[02:46] <prince_jammys> computer exploded
[02:49] <default_op> biovore: &FDrag ok thanks.  I get it now
[02:49] <default_op> prince_jammys: it opens it
[02:50] <default_op> it seems when there isn't any attributes after the .php then it trys to download the file
[02:51] <prince_jammys> default_op: delete the stuff after question mark and try it
[02:51] <prince_jammys> default_op: including the ?
[02:52] <prince_jammys> default_op: what you can't do is save a php file and expect it to open
[02:53] <prince_jammys> default_op: actually, you can sorry
[02:53] <prince_jammys> default_op: you can't expect a php script is what i meant
[02:55] <prince_jammys> the php extension just tells the server on their end to parse the file for any php, then substitutes the php with html output of the server-side php script ... on your end you only get html
[03:02] <FX> Hullo?
[03:02] <FX> anyone running awn?
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> hey FX
[03:02] <FX> if so with my intel x3100 vid card can I run it?
[03:03] <Arwen> yes
[03:03] <Arwen> but why you would want icons bouncing over your desktop is an entirely different question
[03:04] <FX> Ok are there directions out there for dummies on getting it running?
[03:04] <FX> lmao
[03:04] <FX> I'm not sure, really.
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> FX yeah.. search google
[03:05] <regeya> Arwen: one of the first thigns I shut off in os x is the bouncing; awn can be set up to not bounce.
[03:05] <regeya> FX:  there's instructions on launchpad
[03:06] <regeya> FX: one word of caution: it's REEEEEALLY aimed at gnome
[03:06] <FX> ah well then I'll pass on it and just wait until KDE4 becomes more stable
[03:06] <FX> I used 4 a little but it didn't look really done yet.
[03:14] <redshadowhero> Is there a virtual machine app for kubuntu?
[03:14] <crweb> qtemu
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> qemu, kvm
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> virtualbox is good
[03:15] <redshadowhero> alright, thanks.
[03:15] <redshadowhero> I have a user that *has* to have windows 98 on his personal machine..
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Ouch
[03:15] <redshadowhero> I know.. >,>
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> 200 won't do?
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> 2000
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> 98 dosn't work well in VM's from what I have seen
[03:16] <redshadowhero> He's a guy I'm comfortable enough to tell him that he's stupid.
[03:16] <redshadowhero> Ah.. well... that sucks..
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> redshadowhero » you can give it a shot though.
[03:17] <redshadowhero> which one is the easiest for a computer-illiterate person?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> virtualbox
[03:17] <BluesKaj> redshadowhero, let's just say your friend needs to get out of his rut and into this century :)
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> redshadowhero » you can even do seamless virtualization with virtualbox
[03:17] <redshadowhero> Well, he refuses to buy another version.. he's a cheap guy..
[03:17] <vers> how do i do a virus search?
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> vers » virus search? there are no viruses for Linux
[03:18] <vers> sweet
[03:18] <vers> i thought so but wasnt sure....
[03:18] <vers> thanks
[03:19] <BluesKaj> cheap..that's just plain miserly
[03:19] <redshadowhero> yeah... but I get to stay here for free as long as I fix his computers.
[03:19] <vers> so i just should just keep up with the updates and i should be on point?
[03:19] <redshadowhero> well, fix them to his specs.
[03:23] <jerware> umm... yea.  When i fullscreen streaming video it's skippy.
[03:23] <jerware> i use firefox
[03:23] <jerware> fullscreening invokes xine.  but xine can play dvd's fine. why not streaming vids ?
[03:24] <oloughlin75> jerware: could be your bandwidth
[03:24] <jerware> no
[03:24] <BluesKaj> jerware, perhaps your stream is being interrupted
[03:24] <jerware> by what?
[03:24] <jerware> my 3 other room mates, (who run windows) can play streaming vids fine.
[03:24] <BluesKaj> buffering isn't fast enuff to keep up
[03:25] <jerware> such as youtube
[03:25] <FuriousMojo> dumb question
[03:25] <FuriousMojo> how do I access my floppy disk?
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> FuriousMojo » pop it in?
[03:26] <oloughlin75> stick it in and go to wherever its mounted
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> !floppy
[03:26] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[03:26] <oloughlin75> usually /media/xxx
[03:26] <oloughlin75> i havent seen a floppy in years
[03:27] <FuriousMojo> was tryign to get the HDD on my promise card to recognize
[03:27] <FuriousMojo> getting the damn uid 1000 error
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> FuriousMojo » "sudo chmod -R a+x mountpoint" usually fixes that
[03:28] <FuriousMojo> nosrednaekim: just run that?
[03:29] <FuriousMojo> nosrednaekim:  what does that do?  what tells it to do whatever it is doing to the floppy?
[03:29] <Shirakawasuna> hey, does kubuntu use knetworkmanager by default/is it easy to set up?  I'm thinking of switching but I needs my easy network switching
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> FuriousMojo » uhh never mind.... follow the directions in that wikipage
[03:30] <FuriousMojo> nosrednaekim: ok, thanks
[03:30] <Shirakawasuna> also, does it have the irritating issue I've had since gentoo/archlinux, where it takes 2-3 attempts to stick to an AP?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> Shirakawasuna » yes, knetworkmanager is used by default (for better or worse)
[03:31] <Shirakawasuna> nosrednaekim: for better!
[03:32] <Liono> where can i learn how to script commands in linux, what are ways to make bash scripts and execute them in different manner?
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> !scripts
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <andrew__> Has anyone had trouble ripping Led Zeppelins Mothership with K3b  disc one works but not disc 2
[03:32] <BluesKaj> !bash
[03:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> Liono » let me find you a good bash tutorial
[03:32] <andrew__> It skips as soon as I try to play it
[03:33] <jerware> classic shell scripting is a good book
[03:33] <andrew__> I'm encoding to ogg BTW
[03:33] <Liono> nosrednaekim thanks
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> Liono » http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[03:34] <oloughlin75> kde4 seems slow
[03:34] <Liono> nosrednaekim you learned all from it?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> Liono » I don't know how to bash script :)
[03:34] <FX> I'm trying to figure out how to edit the menu in kde4
[03:34]  * BluesKaj begins to nod off...nite all 
[03:34] <Liono> :)\
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> FX » the simple menu cannot be edited
[03:34] <FX> well that blows. lol
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> Liono » I can do anything that can be done in bash in python though
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> FX » except! if you edit the kde3 menu, which seems to transfer the settings
[03:35] <Shirakawasuna> Liono: you could also try installing gentoo on some old box
[03:35] <Liono> ok
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> so running "kmenuedit" might be your best bet
[03:35] <Shirakawasuna> Liono: it takes you through all the basics just to install the bugger
[03:35] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: then whats the menu editor for?
[03:35] <Liono> nosrednaekim Shirakawasuna can you help me with my loging problem?
[03:35] <Shirakawasuna> Liono: possibly
[03:35] <FuriousMojo> so...
[03:35] <elfshadow> Does anyone know why filetransfer halt when I try to copy oggs off a CD???
[03:36] <Shirakawasuna> Liono: what's it doing?
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » kickoff
[03:36] <FuriousMojo> Here's my fstab file
[03:36] <FuriousMojo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56578/
[03:36] <elfshadow> *halts
[03:36] <FuriousMojo> I still can't see anything on it :-(
[03:36] <FuriousMojo> Do I need to restart anything after changing that file?
[03:36] <elfshadow> I think it has something to do with the stuff that KB3 shut off to rip???
[03:37] <Liono> Shirakawasuna nosrednaekim - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=699029
[03:37] <elfshadow> when KB3 shuts off things to rip it start working
[03:37] <elfshadow> *starts
[03:37] <FX> kmenuedit doesn't do anything and I don't see a terminal icon either. :(
[03:38] <spikemcc> is there a msn client that actually just work on linux ... all ones that i have tried don't start ...
[03:38] <ChaosMachine> spikemcc, have you tried aMSN?
[03:38] <Shirakawasuna> Liono: dunno, sorry.  I use a different distro and running stuff at boot depends on the script system, which is distro-specific
[03:39] <Liono> Shirakawasuna its about kde and screen saver problem
[03:39] <oloughlin75> theres to much.... pizaz in kde4 with the effects on
[03:39] <spikemcc> pidgin amsn kopete and kmess all don't work
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » you obviously wouldn't like compiz then
[03:40] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: just the exploding windows
[03:40] <oloughlin75> its over the top
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » turn them off :)
[03:40] <FX> I'm still trying to figure out where everything is in 4
[03:40] <oloughlin75> nvm, its the fall apart, not the explosion
[03:41] <oloughlin75> explosion isnt quite as much
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » did you eventually get compiz working?
[03:42] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: yeah, until i restarted
[03:42] <unagi> is there an expression in the terminal for current directory
[03:42] <unagi> ie mkisofs -o myiso.iso expression?
[03:42] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: then i lost keyboard and couldnt click, only move
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> unagi » "."
[03:42] <unagi> with or without quotes
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> unagi » shouldn't matter, but without works
[03:43] <unagi> ty
[03:43] <unagi> is that python?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> unagi » no... thats bash
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> or rather...UNIX
[03:44] <unagi> i see
[03:44] <unagi> ive been finding it hard to learn bash language
[03:44] <biovore> bash programming howto
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> .. is previous DIR TW
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> unagi » http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[03:45] <unagi> i would like to write a script to change my background to the time of day
[03:45] <Pici> nosrednaekim: .. is parent directory.  cd - is previous directory ;)
[03:45] <spikemcc> >	anyone got a tutorial how to remove and rebuild amsn-aa (latest) and add some skins and addons ?
[03:46] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: is there a way to configure the taskbar in kde4?
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> Pici » thanks:)
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » nope
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » you want double lines as well?
[03:46] <oloughlin75> cant even move i?
[03:46] <oloughlin75> it
[03:46] <oloughlin75> double lines?
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » yeah.. you can move it.... remove it and then put a new one in the location you want it.
[03:46] <unagi> kopete crashes on me too much =(
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> oh... you mean the whole panel?
[03:47] <oloughlin75> yeah
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » not yet
[03:47] <oloughlin75> but i guess i can add widgets and remove the panel
[03:47] <oloughlin75> itll acomplish the look i want
[03:47] <oloughlin75> except the open windows
[03:48] <oloughlin75> is there a widget to show the open.minimized window slike the taskbar?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> open.minimized?
[03:49] <oloughlin75> open or minimized
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> insetad of just all of them?
[03:50] <oloughlin75> like the list of windows
[03:50] <oloughlin75> all of them
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> don't you have a taskbar?
[03:50] <oloughlin75> but if i remove the taskbar i cant see them
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> well, alt+ta will cycle hough them
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> alt+tab
[03:51] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: not the same
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> have to go.... later guys.... oloughlin75,come to the kubuntu devweek seminar tomorrow
[03:51] <oloughlin75> whats that?
[03:52] <FX> lmao No wonder why I couldn't find anything. I forgot there is alike a back arrow on the menu. DUH!!
[03:52] <oloughlin75> oo there is a widget for it
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » learn some about kubuntu, what makes it different, how ou can helpout....etc:)
[03:53] <oloughlin75> in this channel?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> no.... let me find the channel
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » #ubuntu-classroom
[03:54] <oloughlin75> lol
[03:54] <oloughlin75> ok
[03:54] <oloughlin75> now ig to to figure out how to remove the bar
[03:54] <oloughlin75> got
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[03:54] <oloughlin75> ok
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> the panel? edit the plasma-appletsrc
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> in .kde4/share/config
[03:55] <oloughlin75> whats that? lol
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> its the only way to get rid of the panel
[03:56] <oloughlin75>   k
[03:56] <oloughlin75> thanks
[03:56] <FX> Not that it ever worked, for me anyways, but I miss kweather
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> worked for me... but without a systray, you are lost :)
[03:57] <gtt> i'm having the biggest pain in the neck problem with quanta
[03:57] <gtt> driving me nuts
[03:59] <unagi> i left my mouse at my parents business how the heck can i play open arena =(
[04:00] <biovore> unagi: bind everything to keys
[04:01] <unagi> feh
[04:01] <unagi> what are some other good games for linux
[04:01] <FX> not much
[04:10] <biovore> holy net split
[04:10] <will00> help! i cant get amarok to work
[04:10] <unagi> ere
[04:10] <biovore> I guess zelazny went down..
[04:10] <unagi> nnn nnn nnn netspliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[04:10] <biovore> yup
[04:10] <unagi> lol
[04:11] <will00> cant get amarok to work can anyone help?
[04:11] <oloughlin75> will00: whats it not doing?
[04:11] <will00> starting
[04:11] <oloughlin75> check the taskbar
[04:11] <oloughlin75> for the amarok icon
[04:11] <will00> not there
[04:12] <oloughlin75> what happens when you click start?
[04:12] <will00> tried uninstalling, reinstalling, compiling from source, rebooting
[04:12] <will00> nothing, it tries to load and then stops
[04:12] <will00> when i launch from terminal it eventually tells me that amarokapp has crashed
[04:13] <oloughlin75> not sure
[04:13] <mixed> I'm about to boot up using a live CD, how would I mount my SATA drive so I can configure grub?
[04:14] <DarthFrog> mixed: It's probably already mounted.
[04:14] <mixed> DarthFrog --- im going to boot up using a LIVE CD
[04:14] <DarthFrog> Right.
[04:15] <DarthFrog> It'll probably be /media/sda or somesuch.
[04:15] <mixed> DarthFrog ok so then I could just sudo -i and edit menu.lst then
[04:16] <DarthFrog> Should work fine.
[04:17] <mixed> DarthFrog, is sda used for SATA drives only?  I only have one SATA drive but it's showing up as sda2 and sda3
[04:17] <mixed> DarthFrog, it looks like my devices are mounted twice LoL
[04:18] <DarthFrog> sda would also be used for SCSI drives.
[04:18] <DarthFrog> sda2 and sda3 are partitions on sda.
[04:18] <mixed> DarthFrog, that makes sense, I have quite a few partitions
[04:18] <DarthFrog> /dev/sda is the whole drive.
[04:19] <mixed> DarthFrog, I just booted up my old machine, im going to reboot this one, be back in a second
[04:19] <DarthFrog> and /dev/sdb would be your second SCSI/SATA drive.
[04:19] <DarthFrog> Have fun.
[04:19] <mixed> LoL be back in a sec
[04:28] <unagi> sigh, anyone know how to get the touchpad to turn off when im typing
[04:29] <DarthFrog> unagi: You used to be able to just disable the Synaptics driver but I've not figured out yet how Xorg handles that abomination.
[04:29] <DarthFrog> <= hates touchpads, especially on his laptop.
[04:31] <unagi> DarthFrog: i dont want it off all the time
[04:31] <DarthFrog> Neither would I.  However, I normally have a mouse attached when I use the laptop.
[04:32] <unagi> id like it to just shut off when im typing
[04:32] <unagi> like most OS do
[04:32] <abortd> is super karamba gone
[04:32] <abortd> ?
[04:32] <abortd> is it compiz now?
[04:32] <oloughlin75> abortd: no. you just need to install it
[04:32] <abortd> install what
[04:32] <abortd> oh i know
[04:33] <oloughlin75> unagi: have what shut off?
[04:33] <abortd> bu i thought they merged or some shit
[04:33] <oloughlin75> abortd: superkaramba
[04:33] <abortd> sorry
[04:33] <abortd> about language
[04:33] <oloughlin75> abortd: thats beryl and compiz
[04:33] <oloughlin75> i think they merged
[04:33] <abortd> beryl hm
[04:33] <abortd> man
[04:33] <abortd> i've been away from this for too long
[04:33] <oloughlin75> superkaramba is like widgets, compiz is a window manager
[04:34] <abortd> what was the one for gnome?
[04:34] <abortd> or wait
[04:34] <abortd> rather
[04:34] <abortd> what i should say
[04:34] <abortd> a few years back
[04:34] <abortd> i remember this snazzy 3d desktop
[04:34] <abortd> thing
[04:34] <abortd> beryl maybe?
[04:34] <oloughlin75> compiz and beryl both work on gnome and kde
[04:35] <oloughlin75> compiz
[04:35] <abortd> ah
[04:35] <oloughlin75> beryl merged or something, im not sure
[04:35] <abortd> i need to remember how i got that to work
[04:35] <oloughlin75> !compiz | abortd
[04:35] <ubotu> abortd: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:35] <abortd> i remember i think it took me alot of bs
[04:35] <oloughlin75> uhh
[04:36] <oloughlin75> install and run 2 commands
[04:36] <ForgeAus> grr this gentoo-izing my interix is starting to get messy
[04:36] <abortd> i dont think it was that easy last time
[04:36] <abortd> i   have always had display issues
[04:36] <ForgeAus> apparently I can debianize it thats another option
[04:36] <oloughlin75> compiz always gives me problems, but it works for some
[04:36] <ForgeAus> and apt-get has to be simpler than portage
[04:36] <oloughlin75> apt-get instal programname
[04:36] <ForgeAus> compiz can be like that oloughlin
[04:37] <oloughlin75> install*
[04:37] <oloughlin75> follow the link
[04:37] <oloughlin75> theres a couple more things you need
[04:37] <biovore> compiz is very picky about what hardware you run it on..
[04:37] <ForgeAus> interix comes with basically nothing... its so barebones
[04:37] <oloughlin75> !adeptfix
[04:37] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:47] <alanna> hey, I am installing wine, why do I get this while ./configure : checking for C compiler default output file name
[04:50] <abortd> i cant minimize windows now :/
[04:53] <Liono_>  pam is the pluggable authentication modules framework used by some unix(-ish) systems. it logs unsuccessful screen unlock events but not succesful ones in auth.log. i need succesful ones too. can i replace this pam with the one that does logs? or any other solutions --   ?
[04:59] <jcgkffycs> does any one know where Xvnc is? I am trying to follow a tutorial on ubuntu forums on getting xrdp working, xrdp relies on xvnc, it says to just apt-get install Xvnc, Ive tried Xvnc, and xvnc, and apt-cache search vnc, and there doesn't seem to pe an xvnc package in the repos, anyone know?
[05:00] <setuid_w00t> I keep getting this error in my mail.log file from dovecot:   "Time just moved backwards by 9 seconds. This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards"
[05:01] <setuid_w00t> The wiki page indicates that something is probably changing my clock, but I don't know what it is.  Any ideas?
[05:02] <dthacker> jcg
[05:03] <dthacker> jcgkffycs: an adept search on vnc shows many results.....
[05:03] <dthacker> vncserver, vncviewer may be appropriate
[05:04] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: do you have ntpd running on your machine?
[05:05] <Agent_bob> ntpd ?     a network time server ?
[05:06] <setuid_w00t> dthacker: no, but ntpdate is installed.  I am going to try to remove it (even though it's part of ubuntu-minimal)
[05:06] <dthacker> Agent_bob: yep
[05:06] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: is ntpdate running on cron?  if not, leave it be
[05:07] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: ntpdate does not run automatically and is probably not resetting your time
[05:07] <dthacker> !ntpd
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <Agent_bob> i've never thought of setting up a network time server   ubuntu linux is so sloppy about time i wouldn't dare use it for a time server
[05:08] <setuid_w00t> dthacker: I don't see it in cron
[05:08] <dthacker> Agent_bob: you sync your local server against others
[05:09] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: ok, how often are you getting this error?
[05:09] <Agent_bob> yeah but, i mean; i have had 9 computers that the cmos clocks kept time well while powered off or running that other os.  but couldn't keep time for a day with ubuntu linux
[05:10] <dthacker> Agent_bob: and that's why I run a time server.
[05:10] <Agent_bob> i finally started making /etc/adjtime /etc/localtime symlinks to /dev/null and not installing ntpdate   they stopped messing with the hardware clock
[05:10] <setuid_w00t> dthacker: every time I restart, so I think it may be startup related
[05:11] <Agent_bob> i'm more of a "get rid of the problem" kinda guy.  than a "just add more processes to cover up the problem" kinda guy
[05:12] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: how far apart are your hwclock and your system time?
[05:13] <setuid_w00t> dthacker: how can I check?
[05:13] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: hwclock;date
[05:13] <jcgkffycs> whoops, my bad, turns out vnc4server actually contains xvnc
[05:15] <sjck> hey, where can i setup the column of konqueror (name size type group..)?
[05:15] <setuid_w00t> dthacker: about 11 seconds
[05:15] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: as the Dixie Chicks would say: "There's your trouble"
[05:17] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: man hwclock to tell how to set it, then head out to http://time.gov to get a good time to set it against
[05:17] <setuid_w00t> dthacker: I'll try that
[05:17] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: does your isp have a time server?
[05:18] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: for instance, I use ntp.cox.net
[05:19]  * dthacker wishes he could ignore time... but these darn developers get so fussy about their log files.
[05:19] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2099be46 cli time sync script
[05:20] <dthacker> ooo, shiny!
[05:20] <Liono_>  pam is the pluggable authentication modules framework used by some unix(-ish) systems. it logs unsuccessful screen unlock events but not succesful ones in auth.log. i need succesful ones too. can i replace this pam with the one that does logs? or any other solutions --   ?
[05:21] <dthacker> Liono: does pam have a log config file?
[05:22] <Agent_bob> pam has config files yes
[05:24] <dthacker> That's where I'd start my treasure hunt.
[05:25] <sjck> how do i get my toolbar back when i clicked on hide toolbar? :(
[05:25] <Agent_bob> visit the edge of the screen
[05:26] <sjck> what you mean?
[05:27] <Agent_bob> move the mouse to the edge where kicker went
[05:27] <Agent_bob> if it don't show up on it's own look for the small handle and click it.
[05:27] <^CatMan^> how do i schedule a playlist to open and play at a specified time?
[05:28] <Agent_bob> ^CatMan^ ummm at ?
[05:28] <sjck> sorry, I cant see what you mean
[05:28] <^CatMan^> i've read all of the "at" man pages, they are no help
[05:28] <^CatMan^> if they were, i wouldn't be here
[05:28] <Agent_bob> sjck ok then make sure kicker is running.   alt+f2   kicker
[05:29] <setuid_w00t> dthacker: The two times are the same now, so hopefully the error will go away now.  Thanks
[05:29] <sjck> that works
[05:30] <sjck> but i dont see how that gives me back the toolbar
[05:32] <dthacker> ^CatMan^ what about "at" is causing you a problem?
[05:32] <dthacker> setuid_w00t: np, and thank
[05:32] <dthacker> Agent_bob for the nifty script....
[05:32] <^CatMan^> it keeps coming back "invalid options last token seen k
[05:33] <dthacker> ^CatMan^: what program are you using to play music?
[05:33] <Tinason> could anyone recommend a widget program, like a karamba / plasma alternative?
[05:33] <^CatMan^> kaffeine
[05:33] <Agent_bob> ^CatMan^ i haven't used at in years   and only a few times then.    but the time must be the last thing on the commandline
[05:34] <Agent_bob> at -f script.sh 00:12
[05:34] <Agent_bob> something like that.
[05:34] <^CatMan^> isn't there a graphical interface for scheduling with at?
[05:34] <dthacker> ^CatMan^: Can you start kaffeine from the command line and tell it to play a specific list?
[05:34] <Agent_bob> yes there is.
[05:34] <^CatMan^> dthacker: yeah, that works just fine
[05:34] <^CatMan^> i just can't get at to do it
[05:35] <dthacker> ^CatMan^: then you are most of the way there.
[05:35] <Agent_bob> ^CatMan^ there is also cron   but that's overkill if you don't want it to do the same thing day after day
[05:36] <Agent_bob> or week after week
[05:36] <^CatMan^> with cron i can use it to do it a couple times a week tho, right?
[05:36] <dthacker> ^CatMan^: type "at XXXX" where x is the time you want to play the tunes and hit enter
[05:36] <Agent_bob> yes
[05:36] <dthacker> you should get an at> probmpt
[05:37] <dthacker> prompt even
[05:37] <Agent_bob> pro bitmap t  :)))
[05:37] <dthacker> ;P
[05:37] <dthacker> :P
[05:38] <^CatMan^> dthacker: ok, got that at> prompt and typed in kaffeine --play myplaylist.m3u
[05:39] <dthacker> ^CatMan^: now hit control-D to save. it will say job x at .....
[05:40] <^CatMan^> yeah, it did that, but the time i typed in was 2 minz ago :/
[05:40] <dthacker> hmm, can you tell it to play Jethro Tull's living in the past?
[05:40] <dthacker> :)
[05:40] <dthacker> try again and give it some lead time.
[05:41] <Agent_bob> or the theme to back to the feuture
[05:41] <alanna> can someone please help- what does this mean checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:41] <Agent_bob> means install "build-essential"
[05:42] <^CatMan^> dthacker: no laughing at me cuz i can't type very fast :P
[05:42] <alanna> Agent_bob: thanks, how can I download build-essential with apt-get?
[05:42] <^CatMan^> i left it 2 minutes lead time now :)
[05:42] <Agent_bob> i can't type fase either.  but i can typo 100 mistakes a minute
[05:43] <dthacker> ^CatMan^: ok, I'll hum the jepoardy theme.....
[05:43] <^CatMan^> lol
[05:43]  * dthacker considers typing are we there yet 10 times, but would probably get banned....
[05:44] <Agent_bob> for only two minutes ?    shouldn't that be 30 times ?
[05:44] <alanna> how do I get build-essential?
[05:44] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:45] <Agent_bob> or any other dpkg FE
[05:45] <^CatMan^> ok, it's been past that 2 minz, and when i typed in atq, it doesn't show anything that is scheduled
[05:45] <^CatMan^> and it didn't start kaffiene either
[05:46] <Agent_bob> ^CatMan^ probably because you didn't set the 'display'
[05:46] <dthacker> look for an error in root's mail, you may have to use a full path to kaffiene
[05:46] <Agent_bob> can't start gui apps from outside the gui without setting the display varable
[05:46] <dthacker> yup, that too
[05:47] <Agent_bob> and setting the gui to accept rogue apps too
[05:47] <Agent_bob> path shouldn't be the problem.   iirc at uses root's path varable
[05:48] <Agent_bob> which only excludes games by default
[05:48]  * dthacker has found cron to not always have much of a path on different *xes
[05:48] <^CatMan^> no mail for root
[05:48] <dthacker> mail for ^CatMan^?
[05:49] <Agent_bob> dthacker yeah it is defined by the distro
[05:49] <Stoffer> so I formatted my external usb hard drive with mkntfs, but then windows claimed it was unformatted... any idea why?
[05:49] <^CatMan^> no mail for my username either
[05:50] <^CatMan^> ok, how do i go about setting this up thru the graphical display?
[05:50] <Agent_bob> i don't know, i don't have one.
[05:50]  * dthacker hates to not fix things and run, but my pager is going off.
[05:52] <dthacker> argh....later all
[05:52] <Agent_bob> ^CatMan^ i think at will work if you'll use   > DISPLAY=':0' kaffeine --play /full/path/to/myplaylist.m3u
[05:52] <Agent_bob> cause it's not going to know where myplaylist.m3u is.
[05:54] <alanna> what's the default root password for kubuntu
[05:54] <Agent_bob> !none
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about none - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Agent_bob> there isn't one
[05:54] <alanna> hmm
[05:55] <alanna> this is weird, my password isn't working for the root account
[05:55] <alanna> can I reset the root password?
[05:55] <Agent_bob> would you like to read about it ?
[05:55] <alanna> yes please
[05:55] <Agent_bob> !sudo | alanna
[05:55] <ubotu> alanna: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[05:55] <Agent_bob> page             ^
[05:56] <alanna> thanks :D
[05:56] <alanna> sudo make install was what I was looking for
[05:56] <Agent_bob> and the short answer to your question is    yes.
[05:56] <Agent_bob> but you should probably still read about it
[05:56] <alanna> well for some reason su won't log in to root
[05:57] <Agent_bob> it will if root calls it   :)
[05:57] <Agent_bob> (this is not the ubuntu way, but)   example;   sudo su -
[05:57] <Agent_bob> same thing is achieved via   sudo -i
[05:58] <Agent_bob> i'll be back.
[06:01] <Agent_bob> where's my  C:\ ?
[06:01] <sleepwalk> hey could ANYONE please tell me the best way to rebuild my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file???  My current video settings are correct, but when I reboot I loose the setup...I also noticed some minor errors in the xorg.conf file.  ANY ideas???
[06:01] <sleepwalk> Agent_bob: in liunx the drives are not organized by letters
[06:01] <unagi> lose the setup sleepwalk?
[06:01] <sleepwalk> C:/ is usally just /
[06:01] <Agent_bob> sleepwalk sorry. that was a joke.
[06:02] <sleepwalk> oh . hehe there are a lot of newbs in these rooms..
[06:02] <sleepwalk> There is some program that auto configures my etc/x11/xorg.conf file.  I've actually used two different commands but don't remember them
[06:03] <unagi> !xorg
[06:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:03] <unagi> !x
[06:03] <Agent_bob> sleepwalk indeed.      sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg     and if you want it to be sticky  after you finish   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove some to the commented out lines.
[06:03] <alanna> Whenever I attempt to start a song in amarok or kaffeine, it just freezes. I downloaded the newest version of ALSA, still notin
[06:04] <unagi> sigh, anyone know how to get the touchpad to turn off when im typing
[06:05] <unagi> alanna: whats the error
[06:06] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d581f2475 <<< i guess i'm up to date...
[06:06] <alanna> unagi: kaffeine and amarok just freeze
[06:06] <Agent_bob> unagi ace of spades ?
[06:06] <alanna> unagi: no error
[06:06] <unagi> alanna: are you new?
[06:06] <Agent_bob> unagi i lay a playing card over mine.
[06:07] <alanna> unagi: yes
[06:07] <unagi> run them in a terminal
[06:07] <alanna> okay
[06:08] <ecue> surgy, are you in here?
[06:08] <Agent_bob> unagi but i think there is a switch...  for xorg/kde    i'm in console so it's a different story.
[06:08] <alanna> unagi: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[06:08] <unagi> what kind of switch
[06:08] <unagi> alanna: !google
[06:09] <Agent_bob> unagi ummm a xset something  i don't recall.
[06:09] <Agent_bob> and i don't like to talk through my hat.
[06:09] <Agent_bob> ;/
[06:09] <sub[t]rnl> Option "SHMConfig" "on" under touchpad device in xorg.conf, then syndaemon -i 1 -t -d (-i is the delay before its enabled, -t will just disable tapping, but not movement))
[06:09] <unagi> !touchpad
[06:09] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:10] <unagi> sub[t]rnl: what are the incriments below 1
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> 0
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[06:10] <unagi> so u cant do .5 or .25
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> yup, you can
[06:11] <sub[t]rnl> 0.5 0.25
[06:11] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl da man.
[06:11] <Agent_bob> ^5
[06:11] <sub[t]rnl> ^5's ab
[06:11] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ u da man
[06:11] <sub[t]rnl> i'm just a spectator :D
[06:12] <Agent_bob> no no.  this is the internet.  where men are men.
[06:12] <Agent_bob> and women are men
[06:12]  * sub[t]rnl cackles
[06:12] <Agent_bob> and children are agent bot
[06:12] <Agent_bob> bob
[06:12] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:13] <tonybrewerio> can smbdy help me? every time i'm trying to install smthing with adept it gives me error like   "There was an error committing changes. Possible reasons include problems downloading some of the packages or that the commit would break other packages."
[06:13] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get -f install
[06:13] <unagi> sub[t]rnl: how do i add that syndaemon string to load at startup
[06:13] <tonybrewerio> kk
[06:13] <sub[t]rnl> unagi➜ save it in your session manager, put it in /etc/rc.local before the "end", or make an /etc/init.d/ script (recommended)
[06:14] <sub[t]rnl> !autostart | unagi or this
[06:14] <ubotu> unagi or this: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:14] <Agent_bob> or in ~.kde/autostart
[06:15] <Agent_bob> i like the /etc/rc.local myself
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ i attempted writing up some flash .swf pages for my apache today. *phew*
[06:15] <Agent_bob> heh i bet.
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, not quit sure if its for me...
[06:15] <Agent_bob> i know it's not for me.
[06:16] <Agent_bob> just html is too time consumming for me.
[06:16] <unagi> sub[t]rnl: by end do you mean exit -0 in rc.local
[06:16] <ecue> !compiz
[06:16] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, and i'll spend 3 hours on one little flash animation cause i'm crazy like that...
[06:16] <surgy> !compiz
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> unagi➜ yehps
[06:17] <unagi> is there a proper syntax?
[06:17] <Agent_bob> unagi the file is executed line by line  when it finds exit # it quits.  so anything after that is ignored.
[06:17] <sub[t]rnl> ^^ just add it in like you would execute it from the cli
[06:17] <sub[t]rnl> tis ran as rewt
[06:17] <Agent_bob> unagi anything after a    #   on a single line is ignored too
[06:18] <Agent_bob> # this is a comment that doesn't exit the script
[06:19] <unagi> Agent_bob: he means exit #
[06:19] <unagi> as in number
[06:19] <Agent_bob> exit 1 # this is also a comment but the exit 1 does exit the script.
[06:19] <unagi> brb
[06:20] <Agent_bob> this is seen as a command string   #followed by a comment (this will error out cause it's not a command)
[06:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello.
[06:21] <Agent_bob> hello  please state the nature of the emergency
[06:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> I can't see my screen.
[06:22]  * Agent_bob wonders if the man is blind or if all the lights are off and the monitor not lit ....
[06:23] <sub[t]rnl> hee
[06:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> Agent_bob: you are a sharp one.  I was going down that route... LOL.
[06:23] <unagi> i dunno if its working or not
[06:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> Just saying hello.
[06:23] <unagi> while im typing i can still tap =/
[06:24] <unagi> how do i know if syndaemon is working
[06:24] <Agent_bob> unagi ctrl+alt+esc ?
[06:24] <unagi> oh wait
[06:24] <unagi> haha
[06:24] <unagi> it has to be 0.25 not .25 doesnt it
[06:25] <unagi> oops
[06:26] <sub[t]rnl> everybody oops
[06:26] <Agent_bob> there are three people you never want to hear that from    the sergon  the banker and the guy with the red button for the nukes.
[06:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> oops, what oops?  I don't like oops.
[06:27] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ lol
[06:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> Agent_bob: the surgeon is when he say oops and then cover the patient with the white bed sheet.
[06:28] <Agent_bob> or detaches internal parts...
[06:28] <sub[t]rnl> what are those medical paddles called? that you charge and zap people with
[06:28]  * sub[t]rnl sucks on his teeth
[06:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> defibrilators
[06:28] <unagi> defibrilator
[06:28] <sub[t]rnl> bang!
[06:28] <unagi> jinx!
[06:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> code blue, code blue.
[06:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> Nobody has questions?
[06:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> wow.
[06:30] <FX> Whats two plus 2?  :D
[06:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> FX: dual 24" lcd monitors!
[06:30] <Agent_bob> FX two+-0.27
[06:31] <alanna> hi again, I got sound working :D
[06:31] <Agent_bob> yepeee
[06:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, darn... my math is off.  that would have been 600.
[06:32] <sleepwalk> Thanks Agent_bob!!! Sorry for the delayed thank you.
[06:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> alanna: good work.
[06:32] <Agent_bob> sleepwalk it's ok.  i don't even recall what i did to you now.   heh
[06:32] <Agent_bob> other than ask about my C:\
[06:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> brb.  got to get something to drink.
[06:33] <Agent_bob> you know i can't find any partitions on this hdd...
[06:33] <sladigar> 'allo
[06:33] <Agent_bob> sladigar hola
[06:33] <sladigar> at least you can find your hdd
[06:33] <sladigar> lol
[06:33] <sladigar> i'm missing 2
[06:34] <Agent_bob> really?      sudo fdisk -l
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> speaking of missing.. I lost a pc
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> ...i mean.. i can ping it.. i'm just not sure where it is
[06:34] <sladigar> did that, it sees them, but i can't access them
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[06:34] <sladigar> i'm a noob, btw
[06:34] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl ssh root@thatbox eject
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> lol, and then turn the tv down
[06:35] <unagi> sub you know how to get my function keys working?
[06:35] <unagi> namely lock and brightness?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> !ntfs | sladigar maybe you need this page?
[06:35] <ubotu> sladigar maybe you need this page?: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> laptop?
[06:35] <unagi> yes
[06:36] <sladigar> in the root folder, under the dev menu, disk, by label, i can see the missing partitions, but they won't open
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> !info hotkeys
[06:36] <ubotu> hotkeys (source: hotkeys): A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4-0.1 (gutsy), package size 142 kB, installed size 384 kB
[06:36] <alanna> I'm trying to install vbox at the moment and not having much luck because of dependencies. I need to get libxalan110 but sudo apt-get install libxalan110 depends on libxerces 27 which depends on libxalan110 apparently :S
[06:36] <sladigar> kk, i'll try that
[06:37] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl yeah you could just    ssh root@ip until false ;do echo -e "\a" ;done    and go listening....
[06:37] <Agent_bob> sladigar you don't access the device node  you mount the file system on the device and then access the mountpoint
[06:38] <Agent_bob> sladigar the page will help  ^  > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> bingo!, i ssh'd an eject and some papers fell off the shelf in the den
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> muha
[06:38] <unagi>  how do i find out what keyboard type i ahve sub[t]rnl
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> !info hotkeys-setup
[06:38] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl see  :)
[06:38] <ubotu> Package hotkeys-setup does not exist in gutsy
[06:39] <sleepwalk> Agent_bob: You gave me a command to reconfigure my xorg.conf file, which I for some reason couldn't find on google easily.
[06:39] <Agent_bob> sleepwalk oh  yeah.     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:40] <Agent_bob> !xorg
[06:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:40] <sub[t]rnl> member dselect?
[06:40]  * sub[t]rnl coo's
[06:40] <Agent_bob> dselect  yup
[06:41] <Agent_bob> sleepwalk oh by the path.   you do know about bash history,  don't you ?
[06:43] <Agent_bob> sleepwalk you can use the up arrow key to scroll through the commands you have typed,   that way if you forget a command you can go back and look for it in your own bash history.
[06:43] <Agent_bob> so i typed that for myself i guess.
[06:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> you can also type history for the listing
[06:43] <alanna> Agent_bob: I am trying to install libxalan110 but it needs libxerces27 which needs libxalan110
[06:43] <alanna> what do i do?
[06:44] <sladigar> Agent_bob, you rock
[06:44] <Agent_bob> !find libxerces27
[06:44] <ubotu> Found: libxerces27, libxerces27-dev, libxerces27-doc
[06:44] <Agent_bob> alanna sudo apt-get install libxerces27
[06:44] <unagi> !hotkeys
[06:44] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[06:45] <Agent_bob> !find libxalan110
[06:45] <ubotu> Found: libxalan110, libxalan110-dev, libxalan110-doc
[06:45] <Agent_bob> oh.
[06:45] <Agent_bob> alanna sudo apt-get install libxalan110
[06:45] <sladigar> any idea on how to rename the newly fount hdd?
[06:45] <sladigar> permission denied in properties
[06:45] <Agent_bob> sladigar the name of the mountpoint ?
[06:46] <Agent_bob> sladigar mount points are simply directories that the file system is attached to
[06:46] <sladigar> what used to be known as /media/MyBook is now known as sda1
[06:47] <sladigar> */media/sda1
[06:47] <Agent_bob> i.e. dismount it   change the name of the directory and the mount point option in the /etc/fstab file and remount it.
[06:48] <sladigar> erm, i dunno how
[06:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> man fstab
[06:48] <sladigar> in terminal
[06:51] <Agent_bob> sladigar in the konsole terminal emulator type this#  sudo umount /media/sda1 ;sudo mkdir -p /media/MyBook ;sudo nano /etc/fstab  #nano is a text editor  it will be displaying the content of the file system table "fstab" you look at the line with /media/sda1 and change it to /media/MyBook   then save and exit.
[06:51] <Agent_bob> sladigar when you get that done call me.
[06:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> man,  thinking about the old days of linux... how can I survive w/o amarok?
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> mpg123 ftw!
[06:53]  * sub[t]rnl hums
[06:55] <sladigar> how do you save in nano?
[06:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> sladigar: you can also look on the web for rute.pdf, it has a good example and explanation of the fstab file.  It's a little outdated but, explains things very well.
[06:56] <unagi> i cant figure out how to get the k menu to open with the windows key
[06:56] <Agent_bob> sladigar ^X     the rafter ^ is shorthand for the ctrl key
[06:56] <sladigar> gotcha
[06:56] <Agent_bob> sladigar sudo mount -a
[06:56] <sladigar> ok, got that far
[06:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> unagi, did you follow the multimedia keys howto?
[06:57] <unagi> yes but the k menu isnt in the list of shortcuts
[06:57] <Agent_bob> you should now access your  /media/MyBook   with konqueror   or your file manager
[06:57] <sladigar> sweet
[06:58] <sladigar> do i need to unmount all the partitions in order to rename them, or can i just edit the fstab file?
[06:58] <Agent_bob> you can just edit the fstab  but for it to take affect you have to umount/mount them
[06:59] <sladigar> so there were 4 commands you gave me
[06:59] <sladigar> unmount
[06:59] <sladigar> create directory
[06:59] <sladigar> edit hdd name
[06:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> pop up launch menu
[06:59] <sladigar> and then mount
[06:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> unagi ^
[06:59] <Agent_bob> sladigar yup
[07:00] <sladigar> what was the last command though, just mount all unmounted hdd?
[07:00] <Agent_bob> mount -a   will mount anything that is not mounted that would be mounted automaticly at boot time.
[07:00] <sladigar> ahhh
[07:00] <sladigar> awesome
[07:00] <sladigar> is the mkdir needed?
[07:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> unagi: did you get my last message?
[07:01] <Agent_bob> the -p switch on the mkdir command will either make a dir or a dir and it's parent if they don't exist, or if an inode of the given name does exist it will silently exit without doing anything
[07:01] <livenicely> hello
[07:01] <livenicely> i want some help plz?
[07:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> livenicely: just ask away.
[07:02] <Agent_bob> sladigar and yes the dir must exist or mount can't mount anything there.
[07:02] <sladigar> Agnet_bob, thank you very much, you were awesome, gundam, ty for you help as well
[07:02] <sladigar> ok
[07:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> yw
[07:03] <Agent_bob> sladigar some scripts that control /media/* via hald run mkdir -p each time...
[07:03] <livenicely> wot is mean by depmod in linux
[07:03] <livenicely> warning: /home/livenicely/Documents/Cx88/cx88-kmdl-2.4.21-47.0.1.EL-0.0.4-9.1.2.el3.i686.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 66534c2b
[07:03] <livenicely> error: Failed dependencies:
[07:03] <livenicely>         /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-47.0.1.EL is needed by cx88-kmdl-2.4.21-47.0.1.EL-0.0.4-9.1.2.el3.i686
[07:03] <livenicely>         /sbin/depmod is needed by cx88-kmdl-2.4.21-47.0.1.EL-0.0.4-9.1.2.el3.i686
[07:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> !depmod
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depmod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <Agent_bob> in which cases the script will remake the mountpoint for you.   but normal   mount -a will not
[07:04] <sladigar> ahh
[07:04] <Agent_bob> sladigar and you're welcome.
[07:04] <sladigar> so, when you create the dir, and then rename the hdd, the mount -a command puts them together
[07:04] <Agent_bob> yep
[07:04] <sladigar> sweet
[07:05] <sladigar> where is a good place to learn this stuff
[07:05] <sladigar> ?
[07:05] <Agent_bob> !cli | sladigar
[07:05] <ubotu> sladigar: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> sladigar: rute.pdf is a good introduction.
[07:05] <sladigar> ok
[07:05] <Agent_bob> for indepth research of sommands   http://tldp.org
[07:05] <sladigar> they both will help a newb
[07:06] <Agent_bob> commands ^
[07:06] <sladigar> lol
[07:06]  * Agent_bob is typo king of channel #kubuntu
[07:06] <eatThisAndDie> guys, anyone with any knowledge on xoops?
[07:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> there we go again... oops.
[07:06] <sub[t]rnl> everybody oops
[07:07] <eatThisAndDie> ...........
[07:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> long story
[07:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> what is xoops?
[07:08] <eatThisAndDie> a CMS
[07:08] <eatThisAndDie> do NOT ask me what's a cms..
[07:08] <Stoffer> can someone help me find my external hard drive?  I deleted the partition table on it and now it disappeared on me
[07:08] <Stoffer> it used to be /dev/sda1
[07:09] <abortd> cms is a counter measure system
[07:09] <intelikey> sladigar not that it's something that would be useful to you but just to peek your interest.    i have hdd with linux installed dirrectly to the disk,  no partitions at all.  encripted file system and encripted boot loader can also improve security.    try that with windows....  :)
[07:10] <eatThisAndDie> Stoffer: uh... try /dev/sdb1
[07:10] <intelikey> !virus | and a really good read on this page.
[07:10] <ubotu> and a really good read on this page.: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:10] <abortd> the day i have a webserver i will worry about that much security
[07:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> eat: what is the problem that you are having with it?
[07:10] <eatThisAndDie> not a problem, not even ubuntu related, i jsut wanna know how to use it.
[07:10] <eatThisAndDie> to add modules, etc
[07:10] <Stoffer> eatThisAndDie, no, doesn't exist, just like sda1
[07:11] <intelikey> abortd heh.  i run a cherokee server  but it's local access only atm.
[07:11] <eatThisAndDie> do u have /dev/sd<anything> ?
[07:11] <Stoffer> basically how does one mount or edit a drive that isn't partitioned?
[07:12] <intelikey> Stoffer you don't mount partitions.  you mount file systems.
[07:12] <eatThisAndDie> Stof: plug it out, plug it back in. it doesn;'t need to be partitioned to be mounted AFAIK
[07:12] <sub[t]rnl> Stoffer➜ fdisk can list and partition whatcha need
[07:12] <intelikey> the cdrom the floppy disk and the file.iso image are some examples
[07:12] <sub[t]rnl> sudo fdisk -l
[07:13] <Stoffer> sub[t]rnl, fdisk doesn't list it
[07:14] <eatThisAndDie> I'm gonna ask something really stupid....... are you sure it's turned on?
[07:14] <gundam_rx78nt1> eatThisAndDie: did you take a look at the xoop wiki page and documentation?  I use dragonfly and like how it works.
[07:14] <intelikey> i'm going to ask something equally stupid...... is it plugged into the box ?
[07:15] <sub[t]rnl> ok, i'll bite...... do you really have an external harddrive?
[07:15] <intelikey> lol
[07:15] <intelikey> ^5
[07:15] <sub[t]rnl> ^5
[07:16] <eatThisAndDie> gundam_rx78nt1: DragonFLY huh? I'll lookitup.
[07:16] <nicolas> algun colombiano
[07:17] <eatThisAndDie> stoffer: also  try eda, edb , xta, xtb
[07:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> nicolas: no, boricua
[07:17] <nicolas> q tal?
[07:17] <nicolas> mucho trasnochar...!!!
[07:18] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl i did try for over two hours to help one guy get an external drive to work..... wasn't plugged into the back of the box.   the usb cable had been pulled out of the computer and he didn't know....
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> ouch, yeah.
[07:18] <intelikey> that will almost make a fellow loose his religion
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> honestly though, you asked the right question
[07:19] <eatThisAndDie> Step 1 in My-Computer-Doesn't-Work diagnosis: is it turned on
[07:19] <sub[t]rnl> kiss system
[07:19] <eatThisAndDie> Step 2: is it plugged in
[07:19] <Stoffer> ok, first of all ... it's plugged in
[07:19] <Stoffer> second of all
[07:19] <Stoffer> it used to be /dev/sda1
[07:19] <Stoffer> why would it change?
[07:19] <intelikey> Stoffer cause you unpluged it and repluged it.   and usb is wierd that way
[07:19] <eatThisAndDie> Stoffer: Had that problem before, but mine just moves to sdb
[07:20] <sub[t]rnl> *cough* uuid's *cough*
[07:20] <eatThisAndDie> is sda or sdb available anyway? forget the numbers, just the dev
[07:20] <dystopianray> is flash supposed to be working in konqueror now?
[07:20] <intelikey> eatThisAndDie right and if you unplug and replug it may move to sdc or back to sda
[07:20] <eatThisAndDie> yups
[07:20] <Stoffer> isn't there something that'll tell me what device is instead of me going through every four-character combination?
[07:20] <eatThisAndDie> Stoffer: yeah, "ls"
[07:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> ls -l
[07:21] <intelikey> Stoffer cat /proc/partitions         dmesg | tail
[07:21] <intelikey> either might show you
[07:21] <nicolas> thks gundam
[07:21] <eatThisAndDie> Stoffer: GUI: kmenu>system settings>advanced >Disk and File Systems
[07:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> ooh,  intelikey, good one
[07:22] <dystopianray> flash only works about 10% of the time for me and often causes long pauses and crashes in konqueror
[07:22] <dystopianray> it works perfectly in firefox
[07:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> no problemas nicolas
[07:22] <Stoffer> eatThisAndDie, well, at least the GUI way isn't reading it
[07:22] <Stoffer> eatThisAndDie, it's just not there
[07:23] <intelikey> Stoffer unplug the usb cable from it and replug   then    dmesg | tail
[07:23] <dystopianray> does anyone else have working flash in konqueror?
[07:23] <intelikey> Stoffer if it doesn't show up there   then you have a major mality
[07:24] <eatThisAndDie> cat /proc/diskstats
[07:24] <gundam_rx78nt1> Stoffer, did you do a lsusb to see if it is detected?
[07:24] <Stoffer> intelikey, something shows up in dmesg related to sda
[07:24] <intelikey> dystopianray short answer not i,   long answer i don't have konqueror.
[07:24] <gundam_rx78nt1> if it is a usb.
[07:24] <Stoffer> Bus 004 Device 061: ID 0d49:7350 Maxtor
[07:24] <intelikey> Stoffer ok    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ;ls /mnt
[07:25] <intelikey> if that gives errors   pastebin them
[07:25] <Stoffer> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[07:25] <intelikey> ok   ls /dev/sda1
[07:25] <intelikey> does it show a yellow device node ?
[07:26] <eatThisAndDie> i think it should be ls /dev/sd*
[07:26] <Stoffer> all I have is /dev/sda
[07:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> erm...
[07:26] <intelikey> Stoffer oh   you did mention no partition...   sudo mount /dev/sda
[07:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> has it been formatted yet or is it straight out of the box?
[07:26] <intelikey>  /mnt
[07:27] <eatThisAndDie> its not FORMATED isn;t it
[07:27] <Stoffer> it was formatted
[07:27] <intelikey> stupid enter key....
[07:27] <Stoffer> until I screwed it up
[07:27] <twosouls82> :)
[07:27] <eatThisAndDie> so it's a WAS?
[07:27] <intelikey> Stoffer oh   you did mention no partition...   sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[07:27] <Stoffer> it asks for a filesystem
[07:27] <Stoffer> fs type that is
[07:28] <intelikey> Stoffer ok.  this is what that means.   there is a disk at that address but there is nothing mountable there.    i.e. no fs
[07:28] <Stoffer> correct
[07:28] <intelikey> Stoffer so what do you want now ?
[07:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> so, stoffer: what you want to do is recover the partition table?
[07:29] <Stoffer> format it
[07:29] <intelikey> what fs ?
[07:29] <Stoffer> well that's the compicated part
[07:29] <Stoffer> ntfs ideally
[07:29] <Stoffer> but that's a whole other story
[07:29] <Stoffer> I'll settle for fat32
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> oops again.
[07:29] <Stoffer> and convert to ntfs later
[07:29] <intelikey> sudo mkntfs /dev/sda
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> ntfs...
[07:29] <intelikey> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda
[07:29] <Stoffer> yeah, see, when it was working before, I tried mkntfs
[07:30] <Stoffer> but windows would tell me it wasnt' formatted
[07:30] <Stoffer> after mknfts would say it's done
[07:30] <Stoffer> I need the thing to read in windows
[07:30] <intelikey> windows can access ext2 also
[07:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> did you try to create a partition on it?
[07:30] <Stoffer> can it?
[07:30] <intelikey> gundam_rx78nt1 why ?
[07:30] <Stoffer> what's the max file size in ext2?
[07:30] <intelikey> Stoffer yes.
[07:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> w/o a partition table, windows will detect it as a new drive.
[07:31] <intelikey> idk.   ....   i have never thought about that...    4t or something ?
[07:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> and ask to format it.
[07:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was just wondering....
[07:31] <Stoffer> gundam_rx78nt1, it won't for an external usb drive
[07:32] <Stoffer> gundam_rx78nt1, windows doensn't see it at all
[07:32]  * Stoffer dual boots, btw
[07:32] <Stoffer> is mkntfs the same program as mkfs.ntfs?
[07:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> well, I had to create a partition table on mine once I wiped it clean (zeroed the drive).
[07:33] <Stoffer> m
[07:33] <Stoffer> nm*
[07:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> in order for a drive to be formated (high level format), it needs a partition table.  No matter the drive.
[07:34] <nicolas> no have sound gundam
[07:34] <Stoffer> intelikey, the reason I asked about the max file size is because I'll be using this hdd to transfer large files, which is why I wanted to get away from fat32
[07:34] <Agent_bob> ok i'll have to accept that, gundam_rx78nt1 cause i don't do windows, can't prove it by me.
[07:34] <Stoffer> intelikey, which I heard had a max of 2 or 4 GB
[07:35] <Agent_bob> Stoffer 2g max on vfat
[07:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> you have an enclosure with a hd that is either sata or eide with an usb interface.  So partition the thing and then format it.
[07:36]  * Agent_bob doesn't use partitions. but he's wierd anyway
[07:36] <nicolas> si
[07:37] <Agent_bob> !sound | nicolas does the troubleshooting page here not help ?
[07:37] <ubotu> nicolas does the troubleshooting page here not help ?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> that is why when a usb drive is "automounted" it has a partition on it already, hence forth: sda1, partition 1 of the sda drive
[07:38] <Agent_bob> gundam_rx78nt1 usb dirve ?   do thumb drives not qualify ?
[07:39] <Stoffer> ok, well, mk.ext2 didn't seem to accomplish anything, but at least now gparted recognized /dev/sda and is creating an ext2 parition on it
[07:39] <Agent_bob> which often don't have partitions.
[07:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> flash memory works a little differently.
[07:39] <Agent_bob> Stoffer it's not mk.ext2      mke2fs /dev/sda#
[07:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> that porition of drives I haven't explored yet because it always works for me.
[07:40] <Agent_bob> not flash memory the little dirves.
[07:40] <Stoffer> Agent_bob, oh...well gparted seems to be working now
[07:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> What is a thumb drive?  Isn't it chips that acts as non-volatile memory drives?
[07:41] <Agent_bob> the ones with a disk about as big as a dime ?   or the ones with the ram chips ?
[07:42] <Agent_bob> oh!   never mind.
[07:42] <Stoffer> ok, I have an option now.  Gparted will let me format it as ext2 or NTFS.  I'm sure ntfs will work fine with windows, which I need, but ubuntu has issues mounting ntfs external drives.  Should I just do ext2?  No drawbacks right?
[07:44] <Stoffer> ok, i'm just gonna format it ext2 and deal with it in the morning
[07:44] <Stoffer> thanks for all your help
[07:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> now, I have a question?  since when does windows recognize ext2 fs?
[07:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> I can't see my drives on my dual boot pc.  Only saying unknown healthy.
[07:50] <jussi01> gundam_rx78nt1: since you loaded the ext2 driver
[07:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> there is a ext2 driver for linux?
[07:51] <ere4si> gundam_rx78nt1, windows doesn't recognise linux - but sees that there is a partition
[07:51] <jussi01> !ext3 | gundam_rx78nt1
[07:51] <ubotu> gundam_rx78nt1: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> sorry, windows.
[07:51] <jussi01> gundam_rx78nt1: there it is
[07:51] <jussi01> :)
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> jussi01➜ hey bro, do you use k3b?
[07:52] <jussi01> sub[t]rnl: yes
[07:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> jussi01: thanks.
[07:53] <jussi01> :)
[07:53] <sub[t]rnl> mind showing me ls -l /usr/bin/wodim /usr/bin/cdrecord; and the permissions on your burning device in /dev/?
[07:54] <jussi01> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 359116 2007-09-17 01:17 /usr/bin/wodim
[07:54] <jussi01> I dont have a /usr/bin/cdrecord
[07:54] <sub[t]rnl> kk
[07:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 384424 2007-09-16 16:19 /usr/bin/cdrecord
[07:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 359116 2007-09-16 16:17 /usr/bin/wodim
[07:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> if that helps sub[t]rnl
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> tx, and the permissions on your burning device too
[07:55] <jussi01> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56589/
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> jussi01➜ thanks
[07:57] <sub[t]rnl> jussi01➜ whats the perms on /dev/hda
[07:57] <jussi01> sub[t]rnl: you are welcome :)
[07:57] <jussi01> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 3, 0 2008-02-19 10:29 /dev/hda
[08:00] <bkudria> when i open a chat window in kopete 4:3.5.8-1ubuntu4 (latest in hardy), my *entire X server* crashes.  log here: http://pastebin.ca/909566 .  this happens only with kopete.  anyone see anything like this before?
[08:03] <jussi01> bkudria: hardy help andd support in #ubuntu+1
[08:04] <bkudria> jussi01: i'll give it a try, thanks
[08:05] <soon> I need advice: I have to allocate x number of individual to y number of offices over a periode of z weeks, each individual spending 1 week in office y=3, etc .... is there a planning/project management app or otherwise you would recommend ????
[08:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> is there a file download limit on firefox?
[08:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> I can only download 2 files at a time.
[08:07] <soon> gundam : http://www.lytebyte.com/2007/07/30/how-to-increase-the-number-of-simultaneous-download-limit-in-firefox/
[08:21] <spiroo> some know when KDe 4.0.2 will come?
[08:22] <spiroo> *somebody
[08:23] <jussi01> spiroo: I suggest you ask in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[08:23] <emilsedgh> spiroo: afaik, minor releases for 4.0 are planned to be released everymonth.so probably 4.0.2 will come in the end of feb
[08:24] <che> CIAO
[08:24] <spiroo> okay thanks
[08:24] <jussi01> !it | che
[08:24] <ubotu> che: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:24] <spiroo> jussi01, that channel is kind of dead :P
[08:47] <shirish> does anybody know of a good site to learn kubuntu installations from zero, with screenshots & stuff.
[08:49] <emre_> Türk Olan Varmı Sorum Olacak
[08:50] <emilsedgh> !tr | emre_
[08:50] <ubotu> emre_: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[08:51] <emre_> orası bomboş:S
[08:52] <emre_> Linux Forever:D
[08:53] <Lynoure> emre_: Do you have any support questions? :)
[08:57] <emre_> !tr ÷  ami_
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tr ÷  ami_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <emre_> !tr | ami_
[08:58] <ubotu> ami_: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:03] <peto_> who can help with kubuntu?
[09:04] <jussi01> !ask | peto_
[09:04] <ubotu> peto_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:04] <Sbucatone> :)
[09:05] <oem> nwes about a bug python-apt updating ???
[09:05] <oem> I wrinting from italy, thank you
[09:05] <Sbucatone> peto_: what's your problem ? and peto_ azz what nick lol
[09:06] <oem> updated yesterday?
[09:07] <peto_> i got kubuntu 7.10 but i still dont know how to install driver for graphic
[09:07] <Sbucatone> peto_: and whicht is your graphic card ? nvidia ati intel ?
[09:07] <peto_> 8800 gts
[09:07] <peto_> nvidia
[09:08] <Sbucatone> peto_: i have intel but i think that is a nvidia right ?
[09:08] <Sbucatone> ok
[09:08] <peto_> not sure
[09:08] <Sbucatone> peto_: have you tried to read some wiki tutorial ?
[09:08] <peto_> a lot
[09:08] <peto_> nothing working
[09:09] <peto_> i tried to install from forum but it doesnt work too
[09:09] <Sbucatone> peto_: mm well if you have installed something i can't help you because i don't know what you have made but the easiest way to set up your card is
[09:10] <Sbucatone> :) second i lost link
[09:10] <peto_> i installed kubuntu again... its new now, without instalation graphic
[09:12] <Sbucatone> peto_: well the sure way is this u Sistem -> Administration -> restricted driver---->Driver  NVIDIA
[09:12] <Sbucatone> ups
[09:13] <Sbucatone> that is for gnome
[09:13] <Sbucatone> -.-''
[09:13] <Sbucatone> system and settings
[09:13] <twosouls82> good morning
[09:13] <Sbucatone> peto_: sorry that was for gnome today is not a nice day for me go in your kde bar
[09:14] <Sbucatone> peto_: then system settings
[09:14] <peto_> ok
[09:14] <Sbucatone> peto_: advanced
[09:14] <peto_> ok
[09:14] <Sbucatone> peto_: restricted driver
[09:14] <peto_> ok
[09:14] <peto_> there is  stop mark and nvidia not in use
[09:15] <Sbucatone> peto_:weell
[09:15] <Sbucatone> peto_: now on the botton you can see administrator mode
[09:15] <peto_> well :)
[09:15] <Sbucatone> click on it
[09:15] <peto_> right
[09:16] <peto_> ok
[09:16] <Sbucatone> peto_: now set checked driver nvidia  or something like that
[09:16] <peto_> you mean that small square
[09:16] <Sbucatone> peto_: well i think yes
[09:16] <peto_> ok
[09:17] <peto_> i got a error
[09:17] <Sbucatone> what error ?
[09:17] <peto_> the software source for the package
[09:17] <peto_> nvidia-glx-new
[09:17] <peto_> is not enabled
[09:17] <Sbucatone> peto_: have you every repository turned on ?
[09:18] <peto_> no
[09:18] <peto_> how can i check that please?
[09:18] <Sbucatone> peto_: and you have pc connected with internet ?
[09:18] <peto_> sure
[09:18] <Sbucatone> ok
[09:19] <Sbucatone> peto_: you should go in adept do you know something about adept ?
[09:19] <peto_> manage packaging
[09:19] <Sbucatone> yes
[09:19] <Sbucatone> on that software there is a menu
[09:19] <Sbucatone> go in adept menu---
[09:19] <peto_> do i need to install something from there
[09:20] <Sbucatone> peto_: no i think you should only turn on some list of software = repository
[09:20] <peto_> ok
[09:20] <Sbucatone> so run adept
[09:20] <peto_> and
[09:21] <Sbucatone> adept menu
[09:21] <Sbucatone> manage repositiory
[09:21] <peto_> ok
[09:22] <Sbucatone> well the fist tab must have  multiverse universe ..checked
[09:22] <Sbucatone> check every thing you can check xD
[09:23] <Liono> glxinfo | grep direct
[09:23] <Liono> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[09:23] <Liono> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:23] <Liono> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:23] <peto_> i checked everything but...
[09:23] <peto_> i cant see multiverse universe
[09:23] <Sbucatone> peto_: than you should try again with system settings-----advanced--- restricted driver----admnistrator mode---set check drive nvidia
[09:24] <Sbucatone> peto_: one second plxz
[09:24] <peto_> ok... still the same error
[09:25] <Sbucatone> peto_: you should see Software restricted by copyrtihg etc etc (multiverse)
[09:25] <peto_> ok.. just give me a sec downloading is still running
[09:26] <emre_> türkiye
[09:26] <emre_> türk
[09:26] <emre_> yok mu
[09:26] <emre_>  ya
[09:26] <Aloha> how do i use rewrite header filter in kmail?
[09:26] <oem> somebody use kubuntu 804 here?
[09:26] <emre_> ya
[09:26] <emre_>  türk yokmu
[09:26] <Sbucatone> peto_::) i am sorry for my english but it is not my first language :)
[09:27] <peto_> thats all right mate... its not my first as well
[09:27] <Liono_> can any one help me with drm. its no enabled for my vga...?
[09:28] <peto_> anyway thx a lot for helping me
[09:28] <Sbucatone> peto_: but where are you from ?
[09:28] <peto_> downloading finish
[09:28] <peto_> slovakia
[09:28] <peto_> you
[09:28] <Sbucatone> peto_: italy..peto in italian means xD farth
[09:29] <Sbucatone> so i have asked for that i thinked you was italian
[09:29] <oem> ciao sbucatone
[09:29] <Sbucatone> oem: hola'
[09:29] <peto_> thats ok
[09:30] <peto_> so...
[09:30] <peto_> what now
[09:30] <peto_> downloading finish
[09:30] <emre_> ne dion lan:D
[09:30] <oem> where are u from sbucatone?
[09:31] <peto_> something happening
[09:31] <Sbucatone> peto_: well now you should follow the automatic set up
[09:31] <Sbucatone> oem: verona
[09:31] <oem> ok
[09:31] <oem> milano
[09:31] <Sbucatone> :)
[09:31] <peto_> i checked that nvidia square again and its working now
[09:31] <peto_> something is downloading
[09:32] <Sbucatone> peto_: :) now it should appear something and automatic set up should lead you to your target
[09:33] <peto_> ok mate...
[09:33] <Sbucatone> peto_: after automatic set up you should restart pc
[09:33] <peto_> i got a message that i need to restart computer now
[09:33] <Sbucatone> peto_: :) and that is all
[09:33] <peto_> you thing its ready
[09:33] <Sbucatone> yes if that appear it means it is finished
[09:34] <Sbucatone> restart pc and good luck
[09:34] <peto_> do you think its realy gonna work
[09:34] <peto_> because i tried to install before and when something happend i never came back to system
[09:34] <peto_> :)
[09:34] <Sbucatone> peto_: i have read an italian official wiki and on that official wiki it said this is the easiest way to run nvidia driver
[09:35] <Sbucatone> peto_: well
[09:35] <Sbucatone> peto_: when that append
[09:35] <peto_> if this is working, you the best
[09:35] <Sbucatone> peto_: well if that append you should see only a terminal
[09:35] <peto_> that right
[09:35] <Sbucatone> peto_: but you don't neeed to reinstall
[09:36] <Sbucatone> just a command line
[09:36] <peto_> no
[09:36] <Sbucatone> type a command line
[09:36] <peto_> realy
[09:36] <Sbucatone> yeahh
[09:36] <Sbucatone> xD
[09:36] <peto_> but i dont know what to do than
[09:36] <peto_> i dont know how to get a system back
[09:36] <Sbucatone> peto_: you should wait a moment because i don't remember i must read my note
[09:36] <peto_> i mean that normal graphic mode
[09:36] <peto_> ok
[09:36] <peto_> :)
[09:37] <Liono_> i have    (II) I810(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (8, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied   probelm.. what can i do?
[09:39] <blady> czesc
[09:39] <Sbucatone> peto_: with this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:39] <peto_> what is it
[09:39] <blady> jest tam kto ?
[09:40] <Sbucatone> peto_: if you made some mistake with your graphic card and you can 't do log in
[09:40] <Sbucatone> peto_: and you see only a terminal
[09:40] <peto_> yeah
[09:40] <Sbucatone> peto_: you can reconfigure your graphica card with that
[09:41] <Sbucatone> peto_: like DOS mode , it should ask to you many things
[09:41] <peto_> yeah, and thats a problem :)
[09:41] <peto_> because i dont have a answers for this things
[09:41] <Sbucatone> peto_: but you just leave what you see written by computer it can automatically set up but it ask to you if you want change
[09:42] <Sbucatone> peto_: just leave what you see written or leave empy if it is empy
[09:42] <Sbucatone> and ti should be work
[09:42] <peto_> ok thank you
[09:42] <peto_> i gonna try now
[09:42] <peto_> ok
[09:42] <Sbucatone> peto_: god look
[09:42] <Sbucatone> luck
[09:42] <Sbucatone> xD
[09:43] <peto_> thank you my friend :D
[09:44] <Liono_> i have    (II) I810(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (8, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied   probelm.. what can i do
[09:44] <Sbucatone> drm file ?
[09:44] <Sbucatone> in linux omg
[09:45] <Sbucatone> Liono_: what do you trying to do ?
[09:45] <Sbucatone> what are you trying to do ?
[09:45] <Liono_> Sbucatone i dont have drm enabled
[09:46] <Liono_> glxinfo | grep direct
[09:46] <Liono_> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[09:46] <Liono_> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:46] <Liono_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:46] <Sbucatone> Liono_: are you setting your graphica card ?
[09:46] <Liono_> Sbucatone some one told me to type it
[09:47] <peto_> sbucatone: are you still here
[09:47] <Liono_> my wine game graphic was not doing wel
[09:47] <Sbucatone> peto_: right
[09:47] <peto_> ok.... i am back
[09:47] <Sbucatone> peto_: worked ?
[09:47] <peto_> how do i check now if driver is working proper
[09:47] <peto_> if 3D is enabled too
[09:48] <Sbucatone> peto_: :) if you go in system setting and advanced and restricted driver you should see driver ndvidia in use
[09:49] <Sbucatone> peto_:  glxinfo | grep direct
[09:49] <SlimeyPete> or do "glxgears -info" and check for DRI info
[09:49] <SlimeyPete> or that
[09:49] <peto_> you are the boss
[09:49] <peto_> it is in use
[09:49] <peto_> :)
[09:49] <Sbucatone> peto_: now try glxgears
[09:50] <Sbucatone> peto_: it should be  to work fine now :)
[09:50] <peto_> yes it is wohaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:50] <Sbucatone> peto_: prrrrr
[09:50] <Sbucatone> :)
[09:50] <Liono_> Sbucatone glxinfo | grep direct
[09:50] <Liono_> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[09:50] <Liono_> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:50] <Liono_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:50] <peto_> do you know how to set up a compiz as well
[09:50] <peto_> :)
[09:51] <damien__> hello
[09:51] <damien__> ya des français ?
[09:51] <Sbucatone> peto_: try to run compiz -----kde bar -----run command------compiz
[09:51] <Sbucatone> !france
[09:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:51] <damien__> merci
[09:52] <peto_> i got this back......... could not run the specified command
[09:52] <Sbucatone> peto_: if you have not installed just open a terminal and write : sudo apt-get install compiz , or better open adept and install compiz core o something like that
[09:52] <Sbucatone> peto_: ok you have to install compiz with that
[09:53] <Sbucatone> Liono_: yoi have an old graphic card ?
[09:53] <Liono_> intel built in
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:54] <Sbucatone> Liono_: lspci  on a terminal
[09:54] <Sbucatone> Liono_: then use paste
[09:54] <Sbucatone> !pate
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <Sbucatone> !paste
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:55] <peto_> ok its installed
[09:55] <Liono_> Sbucatone  lspci | grep -i graphics
[09:55] <Sbucatone> peto_: install this too : compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:55] <Liono_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[09:56] <Sbucatone> Liono_: mm i am sorry that video card i think is a bit old and you should use some old driver i don't know nothing about that you should find out some information on the wiki
[09:56] <Sbucatone> Liono_: i am sure there is a tutorial for old video card
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, wassup man?
[09:57] <Liono_> ActionParsnip when iam here. that means i am in trouble :)
[09:57] <Sbucatone> xD
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, whats the trouble?
[09:57] <peto_> ok, its installed too
[09:58] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: he must set up his graphic card
[09:58] <Liono_> can any one help me with drm. its no enabled for my vga...?
[09:58] <Liono_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[09:58] <Sbucatone> peto_: now go on you kde bar and ----run a comand-----compiz
[09:58] <sarah87> hi i just installed kubuntu, and it says "network cable unplugged"; but its plugged in
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> drm = data rights management (?). what do you mean by drm?
[09:58] <Liono_> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/m180deb37
[09:59] <peto_> ok, but nothing happend just blink screen
[09:59] <Liono_> direct rendering mang
[09:59] <Sbucatone> peto_: open a terminal and write compiz
[10:00] <Sbucatone> peto_: if you have problem you can write kwin --replace
[10:00] <peto_> xgl not present
[10:00] <Sbucatone> peto_: mm i remember one thing just a second
[10:00] <peto_> ok
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31982 may help some
[10:01] <Liono_> ActionParsnip thanks
[10:01] <Sbucatone> peto_: sudo kate  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:01] <peto_> there was checking for some things, everything was prexent exept xgl
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, have you installed the 915resolution package?
[10:02] <peto_> what now....?
[10:02] <Sbucatone> peto_: if you open that file you should  see driver nv for nvida card but
[10:03] <peto_> nothing opened
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, and do you have xserver-xorg-driver-i810 ?
[10:03] <peto_> there is something wrong now
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, please dont use sudo kate, use kdesu kate
[10:03] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: yes you right
[10:03] <peto_> i cant move with windows
[10:03] <peto_> i cant close them...
[10:03] <peto_> i lost that bar
[10:04] <Sbucatone> peto_: ups
[10:04] <Liono_> ActionParsnip no that forum is for resolution.
[10:04] <Sbucatone> peto_: close kate
[10:04] <peto_> what does it mean
[10:04] <peto_> its not open
[10:04] <Sbucatone> peto_: ok if you have problem rememer this open a terminal and write : kwin --replace
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, are you on a widescreen lappy?
[10:05] <Liono_> no
[10:05] <Liono_> i need it for gamming and wine
[10:05] <Liono_> good graphics
[10:05] <Liono_> and hardware accelaration
[10:05] <peto_> still the same
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, do you have xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[10:05] <Sbucatone> peto_: you can manage something ? or your system is bad ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-cache show xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[10:05] <peto_> its back now
[10:05] <peto_> its ok
[10:05] <peto_> so
[10:05] <Liono_> ActionParsnip i dont know.. iam new at this.
[10:06] <peto_> what about that xgl
[10:06] <Sbucatone> peto_: well , remeber you can restart only graphic card with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE , but anyway this only if you have problem
[10:06]  * abortd is away: Gone away for now. sleep hospital or hell not sure yet
[10:06] <peto_> ok
[10:07]  * AborttD is back.
[10:07] <peto_> i it will bring me backt to graphic mode
[10:07] <Sbucatone> peto_: another thing it's better use kdesudo instead of sudo
[10:07] <peto_> ok
[10:07] <Liono_> ActionParsnip k
[10:07] <Liono_> ActionParsnip nothing showed up
[10:08]  * abortd is away: Gone away for now. sleep hospital or hell not sure yet
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Liono_,
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[10:08] <Sbucatone> peto_: well peto i can't do anymore for you because i don't know about nvidia i think you have only a little problem for compiz but i am not sure so , i see you are not so expert and so i want made something you can't repear
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, applies to gutsy too
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[10:09] <peto_> thats ok... we can try if you dont mind
[10:09] <Sbucatone> peto_: i think you should see for some tutorial on forum, because if i say to you and then you cannot fix that is bad
[10:09] <peto_> i something happend i can still reinstall
[10:10]  * abortd is back.
[10:10] <peto_> dont be worried about that
[10:10] <Sbucatone> peto_: mm ah no in linux you don't need ;)
[10:10] <peto_> i am very thanksfull for your help
[10:10] <Liono_> ActionParsnip i already have latest. xserver-xorg-video-i810 is already the newest version.
[10:11] <Sbucatone> peto_: jst a second
[10:11] <peto_> ok
[10:11] <peto_> and...
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, can we have a pastebin of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:11] <Liono_> sure
[10:11] <peto_> what about to install everything from adept for compiz
[10:12] <Liono_> http://pastebin.com/m2eb6ed02
[10:12] <peto_> i mean if will write down compiz in adept, there is still a lot of files not installed
[10:12] <peto_> what do you think?
[10:14] <Sbucatone> peto_: mm open a terminal and write sudo apt-get install compiz
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, what happens when you modprobe i810
[10:14] <Sbucatone> peto_: it should say it is installed
[10:14] <Sbucatone> but anyway you have installed so
[10:14] <Liono_> ActionParsnip FATAL: Error inserting i810 (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i810.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, ok sudo modprobe i810
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, this may help http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml
[10:15] <Liono_> loguser1@pc1:~$ sudo modprobe i810
[10:15] <Liono_> loguser1@pc1:~$
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> check section 3
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, thats cool :D
[10:15] <Liono_> k
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, or you could backup your xorg.conf and add Option "RenderAccel" "true" in your display adapter settings
[10:17] <peto_> it said unable to lock administration directory
[10:17] <peto_> what do you think?
[10:18] <Liono_> ActionParsnip hmm. ill take a while
[10:18] <Sbucatone> peto_: ok you should try this but before i want explain if doesnt' work how to fix
[10:18] <peto_> ok
[10:19] <Sbucatone> peto_: if doesn't work you will not able to log in and you should work with a terminal
[10:19] <peto_> ok
[10:19] <Liono_> ActionParsnip how about following the link you gave you first?
[10:19] <Sbucatone> peto_: you  must edit a file with this :  sudo nano  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:20] <peto_> ok, just let me write it down
[10:20] <Sbucatone> peto_:  and replace an old line
[10:20] <Liono_> ActionParsnip  brb
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ok
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, if you are playing with xorg.cong
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> *conf
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, use sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[10:21] <peto_> what does it mean replace old line
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, so if it screws your rig you can copy it back
[10:21] <Sbucatone> peto_: to exit to that program you must press these button CTRL X , than it said do you want save you write y etc etc and it exit
[10:21] <peto_> how do i know, which one is old
[10:22] <Sbucatone> peto_: we are trying to replace a line
[10:22] <Sbucatone> peto_: so if doesn't work you must replace that old line
[10:22] <Sbucatone> and restart pc peto_
[10:22] <peto_> ok
[10:22] <Sbucatone> peto_: ok now kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <Sbucatone> !paste
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:23] <peto_> ok
[10:23] <peto_> kate is open
[10:24] <Sbucatone> peto_: now select all  and paste in that link yu can see above
[10:24] <peto_> wait....
[10:24] <peto_> what link you mean
[10:24] <Sbucatone> this
[10:24] <Sbucatone> !paste
[10:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:25] <peto_> it open a new window
[10:26] <peto_> you want me to put a source to this text
[10:26] <Sbucatone> peto_: so you must paste in that link what you have in that file  /etc/X11/xorg.conf that yoi have opened with kate
[10:26] <Sbucatone> Divilinux: heya
[10:27] <Divilinux> aio
[10:27] <cicero123> hello room.
[10:27] <peto_> ok.... uff
[10:27] <peto_> i press paste
[10:27] <Sbucatone> peto_: you must write a title xD
[10:27] <peto_> and i got 124 lines of new text
[10:27] <cicero123> is there a recommended user id number range?
[10:27] <Liono_> ActionParsnip  back.
[10:27] <Liono_> ActionParsnip  what were you saying
[10:28] <Sbucatone> peto_: after you have pasted you must show me the link :)
[10:28] <Liono_> ActionParsnip i did sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[10:28] <peto_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56600/
[10:28] <peto_> can you see that
[10:28] <Sbucatone> yws
[10:28] <Sbucatone> yes
[10:29] <Liono_> ActionParsnip if i screwed it up now. what should i do?
[10:29] <peto_> what does it mean
[10:30] <peto_> do you think there is no problem because of my resolution is widescreen
[10:31] <Sbucatone> peto_: just a second i am writing
[10:31] <peto_> ok
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, sudo cp xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[10:32] <Liono_> done
[10:32] <Liono_> where to insert "RenderAccel" "true"
[10:32] <Sbucatone> peto_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56601/
[10:33] <Sbucatone> peto_: remember i am not sure !!!
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, just below where your graphics card is detailes
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, just under where it says venorname intel
[10:34] <peto_> ok :)
[10:37] <Liono_> ActionParsnip like this ?   vendorname "Intel"
[10:37] <Liono_> "RenderAccel" "true"
[10:38] <Liono_> ActionParsnip if it screws up. what should i do next?
[10:38] <peto_> i am back in here, but graphic driver is not working again
[10:39] <peto_> i got same NVIDIA not in use
[10:39] <Sbucatone> peto_: you have said you have this card ?Nvida 8600M GS
[10:39] <Sbucatone> peto_: replace the old line
[10:39] <peto_> 8800 gts
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, you need to copy the original file back at command line like i said earlier
[10:40] <Sbucatone> peto_: go in adept and install this  nvidia-settings
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, save the newly editted file andreboot
[10:40] <Liono_> ActionParsnip how
[10:40] <Liono_> ActionParsnip ok
[10:40] <peto_> do i have to restart first?
[10:41] <Liono_> ActionParsnip how to copy .bak to original?
[10:41] <Sbucatone> peto_: do you have replace old line ?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, sudo cp xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, I told you earlier (scroll up)
[10:41] <peto_> yes
[10:41] <Sbucatone> peto_: have you replaced old line
[10:41] <Sbucatone> xD
[10:41] <Sbucatone> ok
[10:41] <Liono_> oh ya
[10:41] <Liono_> k
[10:41] <Sbucatone> peto_: CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[10:41] <peto_> and after that
[10:41] <peto_> it will bring me back?
[10:42] <Sbucatone> peto_:  that restart graphic card
[10:42] <Liono_> ActionParsnip this wil make a .bakup file. and if .conf fails. it will load .bak automatically ?
[10:42] <Sbucatone> peto_: then you came here another time and install  nvidia-settings from adept
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Liono_, no, you do it yourself
[10:42] <Liono_> ActionParsnip ok. ill be there in a minut
[10:43] <Liono_> shoult i just ctrl+ alt + backspace?
[10:43] <se7en> somebody know how to sync my nokia 6120c
[10:43] <Sbucatone> peto_: try to find out if you have restricted driver in use
[10:43] <Sbucatone> now
[10:44] <Liono_> ActionParsnip never mind. brb
[10:44] <peto_> its still the same
[10:44] <peto_> like before this restart
[10:44] <peto_> nvidia not in use
[10:44] <peto_> sorrry .... is in use already
[10:44] <Sbucatone> peto_: well restart pc then , and if you see another time restricted nvidia is not in use do the same thing you have done to enable it
[10:45] <peto_> is in use
[10:45] <peto_> ok?
[10:45] <Sbucatone> peto_: ok
[10:45] <Sbucatone> peto_: perfect
[10:45] <Sbucatone> peto_: try to install  nvidia-settings from adept
[10:45] <peto_> but it doesnt look like
[10:45] <peto_> ok
[10:46] <Sbucatone> peto_: you have a damned card xD
[10:46] <peto_> sorrrrrrry
[10:46] <peto_> :)
[10:46] <Sbucatone> peto_: :)
[10:46] <peto_> but for gaming is great trust me
[10:46] <Sbucatone> i know
[10:46] <se7en> is kde4 stable to use it
[10:47] <Sbucatone> se7en: i can use without big problem
[10:47] <Agent_bob> se7en i've been hearing "stable but incomplete"
[10:47] <peto_> ok
[10:47] <se7en> ok thanks i wait for a bit longer
[10:47] <peto_> its done
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> se7en, its ok but you'll be running kde3 libs as well as not allapps use kde4 yet, depends how much space you have free
[10:47] <Sbucatone> peto_: now find out somewhere nvidia-setting in kde bar
[10:48] <twosouls82> how do I give a user sudo rights without resorting to editing the sudoers configuration file?
[10:48] <Agent_bob> twosouls82 add them to the adm group
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> twosouls82, just use sudo <cli command>
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> twosouls82, or kdesu <gui app>
[10:49] <twosouls82> ActionParsnip: for that I need Agent_bob's answer
[10:49] <twosouls82> Agent_bob: thanks, that's what I was looking for
[10:49] <twosouls82> :)
[10:49] <Agent_bob> twosouls82 adm or admin    which ever it is..   cat /etc/sudoers will tell you
[10:50] <twosouls82> Agent_bob: "Members of the admin group may gain root privileges" so "admin" it is
[10:50] <twosouls82> Agent_bob: merci
[10:50] <peto_> i cant find it
[10:50] <Agent_bob> d'nada
[10:51] <peto_> i just found compizConfig settings manager
[10:52] <Agent_bob> twosouls82 but the   %adm* is what counts  not the comment above it     just so you know.
[10:52] <peto_> so what do you think?
[10:52] <drayen> morning all
[10:52] <Sbucatone> peto_: mm  i have no idea....  i am sorry but i can't help you  you must wait someone more expert than me ... i am sorry i have a shit intel and it works automatically
[10:52] <Agent_bob> peto_ don't know who is/was helping you.   but i'm the cli guy not the gui guy
[10:53] <Sbucatone> so i am not so expert on nvidia
[10:53] <Agent_bob> sorry spoke to soon.
[10:53] <blekos> hi, i've installed kubuntu with vmawre on my xp laptop. Is there a way to see from within kubuntu the ntfs partions?
[10:54] <peto_> thats ok, you helped me already thx a lot
[10:54] <drayen> i'm about to buy a laptop with 2x160gb disks, which is a bit much - i was thinking of having a play with software raid to setup raid0 on say 60gb of each disk then raid1 on the last 100gb - what do people thing - crazy or brilliant + any good tutorials / links for this kind of madness :
[10:54] <Sbucatone> Agent_bob: if you have nvidia try to help that guy
[10:54] <Agent_bob> blekos there should be.  but i don't know what you might have to switch on in vmware
[10:55] <Agent_bob> Sbucatone i have an nvidia card but it's not supported, and i don't have x installed,  so i'm useless there.
[10:56] <Sbucatone> Agent_bob: :)
[10:57] <twosouls82> Agent_bob: hehehe.. I quoted the comment, but it doesn't lie about the configuation option in this case: "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" ;)
[10:57] <blekos> if a vm is treates as another pc then I might have to do smg with sambaa
[10:58] <Agent_bob> right.   just wanted you to be aware of that.
[10:58] <Agent_bob> blekos you can use ssh or ftp or samba    lots of ways to get there.
[10:59] <Agent_bob> sshfs  is margenally slower   but seems stable enough to call safe     (sort of)
[11:00] <Agent_bob> ftp is either anon. or permisc.
[11:00] <Agent_bob> samba i don't know cause i don't do windows
[11:01] <Agent_bob> but i still think that vmware can allow linux to access dirrectly via the device nodes.
[11:01] <Agent_bob> i said i think.
[11:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> drayen: you will have a raid 0 drive with 120G and a mirrored raid 1 drive but you wouldn't have an increase in performance if that is what you are looking for.
[11:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> drayen: it will still be up to the processor to do most of the work.
[11:05] <drayen> gundam_rx78nt1: yeah i was hoping for increased performacen
[11:05] <drayen> performance even
[11:05] <drayen> the increased throughput of the raid 0 drive
[11:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> now if it was across 2 different controlers, then we would get some benefit.
[11:06] <LetsGo67> I cannot boot my hard drive by itself, I need to insert the Ubuntu CD, then go to "boot from first hard disk".  Is there a way to fix that?
[11:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have a software raid 5 on my home pc.
[11:06] <drayen> Its SATA if that helps
[11:06] <drayen> i dont have the laptop in my hands yet
[11:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> It works fine until I have to copy large files to it... because it's processor driven/intensive, it slows down during file transfer.
[11:07] <Agent_bob> !boot | LetsGo67
[11:07] <ubotu> LetsGo67: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:07] <LetsGo67> Thank you!
[11:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> !software raid |drayen
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about software raid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> !raid
[11:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[11:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> drayen: I think this will help you out ^
[11:18] <gundam_rx78nt1> wow, it's gotten quiet here.
[11:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> you know that you are living in the 200x's when wow means world of warcraft for you.
[11:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> you know that you are living in the 200x's when you can order your custom linux distribution from a web page and download it as an iso.
[11:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> gone are the days of carrying a shoe box with 100 floppies so you can install linux w/o X windows...
[11:26] <twosouls82> I thought "sudo usermod -g employees <username>" would make "employees" the primary group of the user with username <username>.. it does not seem to work
[11:27] <twosouls82> or do I need to logout and in for it to be visible to me?
[11:28] <Lynoure> twosouls82: check what your /etc/passwd says on that...
[11:29] <Lynoure> twosouls82: if it is right there, then yes, it will take effect when the user in question logs in
[11:29] <Agent_bob> logout/in is required   or some command that escapes me atm.
[11:30] <Agent_bob> env or something.
[11:30] <Lynoure> newgrp
[11:31] <Agent_bob> Lynoure that wont affect the primary group tho will it ?
[11:31] <twosouls82> Lynoure: thanks, it confirms that I need to relogin or.... etc etc.. "newgrp is used to change the current group ID during a login session." :) handy
[11:31] <twosouls82> Agent_bob: I will tell you in a sec
[11:32] <Lynoure> Agent_bob: not sure, actually... too lazy to check :)
[11:32] <twosouls82> Lynoure: Agent_bob: thanks, it indeed works for primary groups too
[11:32] <hardik> Hello , I m new to kubuntu (y'day installed version 7.10), with help to search engine I able to install scim, and I m able to switch lang in kopete, but not in another applications like kate
[11:33] <twosouls82> hardik: use "kcmshell language" in a terminal client to configure those settings desktop wide
[11:35] <hardik> thanks twosouls82, what I want is to able to keep default english as it is but can use native lang in various application
[11:36] <hardik> when I writing msg to kopete, there is in mouse right-click menu select input lang, so I can chat with others in native lang through kopete, but same is not happening in other sw like kate
[11:36] <hardik> i.e. if I want to make docs in native lang then what to do?
[11:39] <twosouls82> hardik: depends on the application, for kate; use the "Tools" menu, followed by "Settings...", in the new dialog you can set the language for the document using the "Language" listbox
[11:57] <Enissay> how to execute *.run package?
[11:58] <SlimeyPete> sh blah.run
[11:59] <SlimeyPete> you may have to do "chmod +x blah.run" first
[12:01] <Enissay> SlimeyPete: and then..?
[12:02] <hardik> twosouls82 , I look at kate, kwrite & quanta but I m not able to find native lang selection (ofcourse there is highlighter for computer lang selection)
[12:03] <twosouls82> hardik: I meant: Tools -> Spelling...
[12:03] <SlimeyPete> Enissay: after you've done "chmod +x blah.run" then "sh blah.run" it should run.
[12:08] <hardik> twosouls82 thanks, I m able to find it, and select it but then my kate crash and when I restart that program no popup :(, I m rebooting my system as looks like I did some mistake in installing scim
[12:08] <hardik> thanks for your time, I will come back here to give u feedback
[12:09] <twosouls82> hardik: that sounds nasty
[12:09] <twosouls82> good luck
[12:09] <hardik> thank you , avajo
[12:20] <Liono> can any one help me how to enable direct hardware acceleration for good graphics. direct rendering managmnet is disabled in m case. how to enable it? i have intel p4 builtin vga?
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> you need to find out what VGA chipset you have. There might be a better driver available.
[12:21] <SlimeyPete> you can run "lspci" in a terminal to list such things.
[12:30] <Liono> can any one help me how to enable direct hardware acceleration for good graphics. direct rendering managmnet is disabled in m case. how to enable it? i have intel p4 builtin vga?
[12:32] <ehny> türkiye kubuntu
[12:32] <ehny> irc adresi nedir
[12:32] <ehny> kubuntu türkiye
[12:32] <ehny> türk
[12:33] <ehny> Türkiye Kubuntu Adresi Nedir
[12:33] <ehny> Türkiye Irc Kubuntu
[12:33] <ehny> !tr I ehny
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tr i ehny - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <jean> what's up
[12:36] <Beren78> the sky and Mary MAgdalene
[12:41] <slow-motion> hi
[12:41] <twosouls82> hi there
[12:48] <khaije1> !kde4
[12:48] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:55] <TrapperDave> Hello, just wondering if anyone can help me with Amarok. I was told I'd be best off trying in here.
[12:55] <TrapperDave> It freezes on the splash screen.
[12:56] <Enissay> i've just installed my card driver and compiz.... how can i activate desktop effects?
[12:59] <andy_> !ntfs
[12:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[12:59] <tekteen> Enissay: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" then press enter
[13:00] <Enissay> tekteen: already done... what's next?
[13:00] <tekteen> ok
[13:00] <andy_> is there any way of getting kubuntu to automatically mount my ntfs external hard disk?
[13:01] <tekteen> go to the kmenu >> settings
[13:01] <tekteen> then there should be Advanced Desktop Effects
[13:01] <tekteen> that is how you configure it
[13:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> andy, add it to your fstab file.
[13:02] <Enissay> and when i check an effects it should wroks... that's it?
[13:02] <tekteen> to start it type alt+f2. and then the run box will appear. in that box type compiz --replace
[13:03] <tekteen> that is how to TRY compiz
[13:03] <andy_> gundam_rx78nt1: ok but what do i need to add i.e command?
[13:04] <tekteen> you do not want it to start automatically until you have tried it
[13:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> !fstab
[13:05] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[13:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> also you can read the fstab man page.
[13:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> usually it would be <device>  <mount point>  <fs type> <options>
[13:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am sorry if I am not clear... I have been working all night long...
[13:08] <Enissay> tekteen: i got nothing.... :'(
[13:08] <tekteen> ok
[13:09] <tekteen> you typed compiz --replace?
[13:09] <Enissay> yes
[13:09] <tekteen> did all of the window bars disappear?
[13:10] <tekteen> then reappear?
[13:10] <charlerlin> salut
[13:10] <Enissay> tekteen: no, nothing happens
[13:11] <tekteen> Enissay: if anything I say stops kubuntu from working... use crtl+alt+backspace to reset x (it will log you out but not restart)
[13:11] <tekteen> open a konsole
[13:11] <tekteen> and try to run compiz --replace
[13:12] <tekteen> what is the error
[13:12] <tekteen> ?
[13:12] <Enissay> tekteen: .: 3: Can't open /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu
[13:13] <tekteen> did you install compiz or compiz-kde?
[13:13] <tekteen> also just to check. gutsy?
[13:14] <Enissay> tekteen: i've installed : compizconfig-settings-manager compiz compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-gnome compiz-plugins libcompizconfig-backend-gconf libcompizconfig0
[13:14] <tekteen> ok
[13:14] <tekteen> remove compiz and install compiz-kde
[13:15] <tekteen> I assume you use kde :-)
[13:15] <Enissay> :-)
[13:17] <Enissay> tekteen: i've installed compiz-kde... but nothing change.... do i have to reboot?
[13:18] <tekteen> no
[13:18] <tekteen> you tried compiz --replace in the konsole?
[13:18] <tekteen> what was the error again?
[13:19] <Enissay> tekteen: yes, the same
[13:19] <tekteen> also did you reinstall the plug-ins?
[13:20] <Enissay> no
[13:20] <Enissay> wich mones?
[13:20] <Enissay> wich ones?
[13:20] <tekteen> kubuntu prob uninstalled them
[13:22] <Enissay> tekteen: adept says that they still installed
[13:22] <tekteen> ok
[13:22] <tekteen> restart and try
[13:23] <blizzzek> bye
[13:24] <snarkster> good morning
[13:24] <tekteen> morn'in
[13:24] <snarkster> so i installed some games and amarok kde3 and now ndiswrapper isnt working..
[13:25] <snarkster> juust locks up the computer. Have to do that sysreq to reboot the system.
[13:28] <Enissay> tekteen: no change.. :'(
[13:29] <tekteen> ok
[13:29] <tekteen> what was the error?
[13:30] <Enissay> tekteen: the same
[13:30] <tekteen> Enissay: what was the error
[13:31] <tekteen> I forgot :-)
[13:31] <Enissay> .: 3: Can't open /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu
[13:32] <tekteen> ?
[13:32] <tekteen> it should be opening compiz-manager
[13:33] <tekteen> not compiz-manager.ubuntu
[13:33] <Enissay> wich does not exist
[13:33] <tekteen> type ls -l /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu in the konsole
[13:33] <tekteen> what is the output?
[13:34] <Enissay> ls: /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager.ubuntu: No such file or directory
[13:34] <tekteen> ok
[13:34] <tekteen> I am not sure
[13:36] <MsK`> hi
[13:37] <MsK`> I have a problem with an external ntfs hard drive, when I plug it and click open, dolphin says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000", how can I correct that ?
[13:38] <Enissay> MsK`: right click on the drive>properties>uncheck:mount as user.....
[13:44] <Enissay> MsK`: so what?
[13:47] <MsK`> Enissay, I don't see any checkbox about that
[13:47] <Enissay> properties>Mounting>uncheck:mount as user
[13:48] <MsK`> there is no "mount as user"
[13:48] <MsK`> ho I see
[13:48] <MsK`> sorry
[13:48] <twosouls82> can I safely change "/etc/default/useradd" so that "SKEL" contains our foundation's skeleton without messing things up (other scripts, postinst, postrm etc.)?
[13:48] <MsK`> wow, it's worse now
[13:48] <MsK`> ha ok, I know what it is
[13:48] <MsK`> thanks
[13:52] <theTheme> Hey everyone, I'm having an upgrade problem.  I installed from the repository and now I am trying to upgrade to 1.05 with svn.  when I type in ./autogen.sh it returns ./autogen.sh: 22: autoreconf: not found
[13:53] <theTheme> Can anyone help me?
[13:53] <theTheme> Sorry...I am trying to upgrade Transmission...forgot that part :)
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, do you have autoreconf installed?
[13:56] <theTheme> ActionParsnip: I am not sure, whenever i try to apt-get install it, it says Couldn't find package
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:58] <theTheme> ActionParsnip: ok, did both of those and tried autoreconf again, but still returns not found
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, do you need updates?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> so you are updating Transmission?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> !transmission
[13:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transmission - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:59] <theTheme> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> do you have a link to the developers homepage?
[13:59] <theTheme> ActionParsnip: I can put the readme in a pastebin if you think it would help, I've never used svn before
[14:00] <theTheme> http://www.transmissionbt.com/development.php
[14:00]  * selckin watches the internal strugle of jpatrick
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, why not just use ktorrent?
[14:01] <theTheme> ActionParsnip: I've been using it, and I really like it, but for some reason I can't get it to forward my ports anymore, I'm living in a dorm without access to the router so I've got to be able to do it from the client
[14:01] <theTheme> ActionParsnip: If you know how to fix that, that'd be just as good :)
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> bitlord wil never forward ports
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> port forwarding is done on the router
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> how do you mean by "forward ports"
[14:03] <theTheme> ActionParsnip: by using the UPnP widget in ktorrent
[14:03] <theTheme> plugin rather, not widget
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, and without it your torrents dont work?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> i connect to my router without anything other than a vanilla install and its fine
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> sorry for my confsion Ive not come across uPNP for LAN
[14:07] <theTheme> Without it I'm not connectable, I can download but not seed
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, i see. sorry ive no idea. quite weird how you cant seed
[14:11] <theTheme> Ah well, that's ok, I don't know why it stopped working (the plugin) it was quite nice when it worked
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> theTheme, id make sure you have the kernel-devel modules and it may compile
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> as well as g++
[14:14] <pfein> anyone else had trouble with konq sometimes using 100% CPU after recent updates?
[14:14] <pfein> maybe flash related?
[14:21] <RogueJediX> Hey. I got a motherboard replacement just recently, so do I need to update anything?
[14:26] <Amerio> I need help with Gparted
[14:26] <Amerio> is it possible to merge 2 unallocated paritions into 1 unallocated parition ?
[14:26] <Amerio> but both in different SDA's
[14:28] <genii> Amerio: If they are next to each other merging them is easy. If you have some partition between them it's more problemmatic
[14:28] <Amerio> genii they arent next to each other
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all :-)
[14:29] <Amerio> the 1st one under ext3 filesystem / SDA1 and the other under extended file system /SDA2
[14:29]  * genii hands BluesKaj a coffee
[14:29] <BluesKaj> thankyou genii :)
[14:29] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime
[14:30] <BluesKaj> finally some sun here
[14:30] <genii> Amerio: sda1 and sda2 should be next to each other
[14:30] <Amerio> yeah but inside sda2 there are ntfs paritions
[14:30] <genii> BluesKaj: Yeah here too :)
[14:31] <genii> Amerio: You said unallocated partitions.
[14:31] <Amerio> genii yeah there are ntfs paritions and unallocated parition too
[14:34] <dergringo> I'm looking for something like ChronoSync on KDE
[14:34] <luser> Good morning sunshine(s)
[14:34] <Amerio> SDA1 has 8 GB of unallocated space, SDA2 has 11 GB of unallocated space , I just wanna make a new parition with 19 GB , but it doesnt allow me to use more than 8 GB
[14:35] <genii> Amerio: if you have for instance sda1=ext3 sda2=ntfs sda3=unallocated sda4=unallocated     you can merge sda3 and sda4 into 1 no issues. If you have something like sda1=ext3 sda2=ntfs sda3=unallocated sda4=ntfs sda5=unallocated and you want to merge sda3 and sda5 then it becomes tricky
[14:36] <Amerio> aah thats confusing
[14:37] <genii> Amerio: So your ext3 filesystem on sda1 has 8Gb free on it without data that you want to extract and then add to 11Gb of free space on the ntfs partition?
[14:37] <genii> partition <> filesystem free space
[14:38] <Amerio> i want to add the 11gb unallocated 1 to the 8 GB unallocated one to make a new partition under sda1
[14:38] <Amerio> got it?
[14:39] <genii> Amerio: But you have filesystems on these so-called "unallocated" partitions?
[14:40] <Amerio> under SDA1 there is ext3 parition and unallocated place , under SDA2 there is 3 NTFS paritions and unallocated space
[14:42] <Amerio> SDA2 is extended and contains the other paritions under it
[14:42] <Amerio> and I cant take a screenshot to show u because im using the livecd
[14:45] <genii> Amerio: OK. After sda1 how big is the unallocated space. Is it as large as the ntfs part sda2?
[14:45] <Amerio> ok hold on please
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Amerio , genii , perhaps he should take the GParted Live CD approach to organizing and resizing the partitions. It's much easier and effective than the qtparted app on the kubuntu live cd.
[14:47] <Amerio> where can I upload a screenshot?
[14:47] <genii> Amerio: tinypic.com
[14:48] <genii> BluesKaj: I think the main problem is that he has dead space at end of sda1 which the ntfs partition needs to occupy to make the unallocated areas contiguous
[14:48] <ubuntu_> Salut tout le monde
[14:51] <genii> Amerio: If the image is too large for tinypic.com  try then imageshack.us
[14:52] <Amerio> its uploading not too much large but was trying to take a clear one by phone
[14:52] <Amerio> genii http://i25.tinypic.com/5dnntt.jpg
[14:53] <theTheme> Hey everyone, can someone help me compile ktorrent 2.2.5  when I type ./configure it goes through the checks but finalyl returns, ""checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[14:53] <BluesKaj> genii, yeah agreed ,it's always best to have the ntfs on the sda1 from what I've learned so far.
[14:55] <BluesKaj> theTheme, why not just install it with adept or apt ?
[14:56] <llutz> theTheme: install libx11-dev
[14:56] <BluesKaj> ahh
[14:57]  * BluesKaj needs to read with more concentration :)
[14:57]  * BluesKaj gulps coffee to get rolling 
[14:57] <Amerio> genii as shown in the image I just want the merge the unallocated space which the mouse is pointing on to the above one and make a new partition
[14:58] <theTheme> BluesKaj: the version in the repository is 2.2.1
[14:58] <BluesKaj> theTheme, that's perfectly good version...it works well .
[14:58] <BluesKaj> newest isn't always best
[14:59] <theTheme> BluesKaj: yes, of course, just like to upgrade
[14:59] <theTheme> BluesKaj: I was hoping that the newest would help get the upnp plugin working for me again, it mysteriously stopped about a week ago
[15:00] <BluesKaj> theTheme, which kubuntu are you running ?
[15:00]  * llutz iterates "uPnP is evil"
[15:00] <theTheme> llutz: ok, it returned a list of packages that have unmet dependecies, but someone of them I can't find
[15:00] <theTheme> BluesKaj: Hardy
[15:00] <BluesKaj> llutz, as is DHT
[15:00] <llutz> BluesKaj: what's DHT?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Hardy should default to 2.2.5
[15:01] <theTheme> it's the same one that came with when I did the fresh install. the about says it's 2.2.1
[15:02] <theTheme> llutz: figured it out :)
[15:02] <llutz> theTheme: i did ;)
[15:02] <theTheme> Why do you guys not like upnp and dht?
[15:02] <genii> Amerio: Since the unallocated space the mouse is on there is within an extended partition you cannot merge it directly to some primary partition. If you shrink the sda2 by the 11Gb then it can be merged with the 7.84 below it. But to use the spae between sda1 and sda2 you would need to shift the sda2 up so the free space falls all together at the end.
[15:03] <llutz> uPnP is a security nightmare because you lose control about your security-settings
[15:03] <genii> Sorry for lag, work calling me back and forth a bit
[15:03] <BluesKaj> llutz, distributed hash table : a type of distributed system that provides hash table-like functionality.. wiki definition
[15:03] <theTheme> oh, didn't realize that, I'm rather new to linux and bittorrent
[15:03] <Amerio> hmmmm
[15:04] <llutz> BluesKaj: i found it at wikipedia, thanks ,)
[15:04] <Amerio> so I shift all and by default it should be 1 unallocated space right?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> llutz, as did I :)
[15:04] <llutz> theTheme: who/what prevents malware from using upnp-mechanisms to open your system to the internet?
[15:05] <theTheme> llutz: No idea
[15:05] <llutz> theTheme: what seems to be a nice feature of p2p-clients, media-clients etc. is evil, very evil for your security.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> llutz, i've been informed by some folks at thebo.bzx torent site that enabling DHT can muck up you DL speed and introduce unwanted sources
[15:06] <BluesKaj> err thbox.bz
[15:06] <theTheme> Isn't that a private site that doesn't allow dht?
[15:06] <llutz> BluesKaj: maybe, i'm not using p2p very often
[15:06] <BluesKaj> theTheme, yes i believe so
[15:06] <genii> Amerio: If you have some other drive large enough to temporarily store sda2 then you can copy it to there with dd command, then free it up and create a new partion of same size directly underneath sda1 and then dd back the partition sda2 to that. Then you will have all the free space in one area at the end.
[15:07] <Amerio> genii yeah I thought of that too , I have an external HDD but u know it takes ages to move all the data lol
[15:07] <genii> Amerio: Without being able to put the sda2 contents somewhere though, best can do right now is shrink sda2 by the 11G of free space on it and then merge that with the 7.8Gb at end of drive
[15:07] <Amerio> genii anyway thanx for the help , I'll try shifting if it doesnt work , then I'll move the data to external hdd
[15:08] <theTheme> Ok, I got libx11-dev installed, but I am still getting the same error when I try ./configure for ktorrent
[15:09] <stdin> Thecks: you need xorg-dev, you probably want to so "sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent" to get all of the packages you need
[15:09] <Amerio> genii shifting worked =) thanx alot mate
[15:10] <BluesKaj> theTheme,I have to ask the obvious. Have you updated your sources.list to hardy ?
[15:10] <theTheme> BluesKaj: I don't know how to do that, so...probably not
[15:10] <BluesKaj> I mean multivers univers etc
[15:10] <differentreality> can someone help me set up my wireless card with kubuntu ? I have Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG  and it should work without any drivers to be needed
[15:11] <genii> Amerio: Good :)
[15:11] <pfein> anyone else had trouble with konq sometimes using 100% CPU after recent updates?
[15:12] <Amerio> genii thank you so much , have a good day , ciao
[15:12] <BluesKaj> theTheme, the best way without editing directly is : Open Adept Package Manager.  On the menu of that screen, click on Adept -> Manage  Repositories. Click the Kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X". The same goes for the third party software tab. Close, and then in the terminal: "sudo apt-get update" .
[15:17] <theTheme> woot! it worked, after it resolved the dependencies ./configure worked
[15:20] <BluesKaj> theTheme, yes , that's why using adept or apt is always safer.
[15:20] <mumu> !de
[15:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:21] <theTheme> Thanks BluesKaj and llutz, you were both a huge help :)
[15:22] <rooster> I want Fatima (prophet Muhammad's daughter) so bad
[15:22] <rooster> me so horny
[15:22] <rooster> me fucky fucky Fatima Zahra
[15:23] <rooster> me fucky fucky Fatima Zahra
[15:23] <rooster> I want Fatima (prophet Muhammad's daughter) so bad
[15:23] <rooster> me fucky fucky Fatima Zahra
[15:23] <rooster> me fucky fucky Jesus' mom
[15:23] <rooster> me fucky fucky Mary (Jesus' mom)
[15:24] <rooster> me fucky fucky Mary (Jesus' mom)
[15:25] <emilsedgh> !ops
[15:25] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[15:25] <pfein> can an op ban that waste pls?
[15:25] <pfein> thx
[15:25] <Mez> too quick stdin
[15:26] <alexk_> hi
[15:26] <alexk_> IS there any better windows emulator then WINE?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> w!ine
[15:27] <BluesKaj> !wine
[15:27] <Ops> Hi
[15:27] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:27] <stdin> Wine Is Not an Emulator ;) try vmware or VirtualBox for a full emulator
[15:28] <alexk_> ok
[15:28] <alexk_> because i like Voyage Century Online and cant play it on my new kubuntu install :)
[15:28] <alexk_> but was so tired of windows
[15:28] <alexk_> 1 month now with kubuntu and no problems but that one game :)
[15:30] <alexk_> ok i have one other problem
[15:30] <alexk_> i had ot put in my old NVIDIA card because my newer ATI Radeon 9550 wont work on Kubuntu
[15:30] <alexk_> how to make Radeon 9550 work and obey me? :)
[15:31] <Kohlrabi> what do you mean with "won't work"?
[15:31] <alexk_> it uses a default setting
[15:31] <alexk_> "fglrx" or something
[15:31] <Ops> How i can delete kde3=?
[15:31] <alexk_> and doesnt like 3d stuff
[15:31] <alexk_> for example i tried that 3d desktop beryl
[15:32] <alexk_> its a great card and worked fine under windows xp
[15:33] <alexk_> there is no exact driver for radeon 9550 which works i did a search on it
[15:33] <alexk_> many hours and it keeps changing desktop back to very low resolution every reboot
[15:33] <BluesKaj> alexk_, open system settings/advanced , check if the restricted driver is enabled.
[15:34] <alexk_> i did that
[15:34] <alexk_> i have to do that every reboot
[15:34] <alexk_> so i stopped bothering and put in the nvidia card
[15:35] <alexk_> one time setup and no problems but its old geforce 4 with 64mb eww
[15:36] <noaXess> has anybody seen this? http://files.wmx.ch/upload/jpg/70_gkrellShoot_08-02-19_160700.jpg
[15:36] <noaXess> i think its a memory dump before the machine crashes..
[15:36] <alexk_> it is
[15:36] <noaXess> where can i see the whole dump?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> alexk_, in oder to use the restricred default driver , you have to install the Radeon card of course , but I have a cheap X200G onboard and 3D and DRI work on mine using that driver.
[15:37] <alexk_> thats the linux version of blue screen of death
[15:37] <noaXess> alexk_: ok.. and where to see the whole information?
[15:37] <alexk_> blueskaj, I use restricted driver but it still says no 3d capability after restart
[15:37] <alexk_> noaXess i do not know yet as im learning linux myself only 1 month on it
[15:37] <noaXess> alexk_: :)
[15:37] <alexk_> but that is definitely a memory dump before a crash
[15:38] <alexk_> what did you do to make it mad? :)
[15:39] <noaXess> alexk_: thats what i need to know.. and whant have mor information..
[15:39] <alexk_> okay
[15:40] <alexk_> virtualbox i was just told abuot a minute ago
[15:40] <alexk_> its supposed to be like WINE somewht right?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> alexk_,  you have to edit your xorg.config file to get it to work. Perhaps if you posted you xorg file on pastebin i could suggest some changes.
[15:40] <Daisuke_Ido> not even close
[15:40] <alexk_> daisuke
[15:40] <Daisuke_Ido> virtualbox is what it says it is
[15:41] <alexk_> perhaps you can help my newfound friend noaXess then
[15:41] <alexk_> http://files.wmx.ch/upload/jpg/70_gkrellShoot_08-02-19_160700.jpg
[15:41] <Daisuke_Ido> a virtual machine.  it's more like vmware or virtual pc than wine
[15:41] <alexk_> he's got this memory dump problem before a crash
[15:41] <noaXess> Daisuke_Ido: jep.. but the error is in the machine..
[15:41] <Daisuke_Ido> no idea -_-
[15:41] <Daisuke_Ido> that's way way beyond me
[15:41] <alexk_> now ive used vmware
[15:41] <alexk_> on windows
[15:41] <noaXess> my question is where to find the mem dump info's
[15:41] <alexk_> perhaps you go to their website
[15:42] <alexk_> this virtualbox place
[15:42] <alexk_> and do a search of FAQ first
[15:42] <alexk_> ?
[15:42] <alexk_> blueskaj where do i find this xorg.config file?
[15:43] <hawkeye> jo+
[15:43] <hawkeye> look at : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:43] <alexk_> under root?
[15:44] <hawkeye> if u wanna change sth yes
[15:44] <alexk_> okay
[15:44] <hawkeye> user can see .conf-file but cant change anything i think
[15:44] <alexk_> i have my xorg.conf file
[15:44] <hawkeye> ;-)
[15:44] <alexk_> yes a guy said he can help make changes
[15:44] <alexk_> very exciting :)
[15:44] <Saied> emilsedgh: where is that guy? banned
[15:45] <alexk_> some changes to make such as make the Radeon 9550 work and maybe change this "plugnplay" to a proper monitor for my flatpanel LCD
[15:45] <emilsedgh> Saied: yeah
[15:45] <alexk_> BluesKaj?
[15:47] <alexk_> Hey BluesKaj?
[15:49] <alexk_> BluesKaj I have that x file open. What now?
[15:53] <alexk_> BluesKaj I have that x file open. What now?
[15:54] <seba_> alo
[16:05] <bjwebb> hi
[16:08] <DreadKnight> anyone knows if i can find the drupal theme used here http://nepomuk.kde.org/ in the kde svn ?
[16:09] <bjwebb> hi
[16:09] <elvis4791> yeeeeee =)))
[16:10] <elvis4791> Есть живой кто?
[16:11] <jussi01> !ru | elvis4791
[16:11] <ubotu> elvis4791: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:11] <elvis4791> ЭЭЭЭЭ
[16:11] <bjwebb> if i build a newer version of an app from source
[16:12] <bjwebb> will apt be able to rewrite it if an even newer version appears in the repos?
[16:12] <elvis4791> Hi guys wtf is goion?
[16:12] <jussi01> bjwebb: there is a way to get apt to recognise it, but i hesitate to recomend it
[16:12] <jussi01> !wtf | elvis4791
[16:12] <ubotu> elvis4791: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:12] <elvis4791> Ok
[16:12] <bjwebb> jussi01: ah
[16:13] <bjwebb> but if i just make install, will apt rewrite it if it finds an update, leave it alone, or complain?
[16:13] <jussi01> elvis4791: This is the Kubuntu support channel. If you just want to chat, try #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:13] <elvis4791> Ok =))
[16:14] <jussi01> bjwebb: the latter two
[16:14] <bjwebb> oh
[16:14] <bjwebb> is the way you don't recommend checkinstall?
[16:14] <jussi01> bjwebb: correct
[16:15] <bjwebb> hmmm, how tricky is it to build packages properly?
[16:15] <jussi01> !packaging
[16:15] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[16:37] <xerxes1358> Hello
[16:38] <xerxes1358> I have installed Kubuntu. How do I install GNOME so I can switch to Gnome?
[16:38] <senorpedro> aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <pag> xerxes1358, ' sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop '  and then choose 'Gnome' at login screen
[16:39] <senorpedro> better use aptitude
[16:39] <senorpedro> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <senorpedro> or install it via adept if you dont like the terminal
[16:46] <sveri> why is aptitude prefered over apt-get?
[16:46] <bjwebb> sveri: its nicer
[16:47] <bjwebb> one command for a load of different stuff
[16:47] <bjwebb> just aptitude install or aptitude search, instead of apt-get install, apt-cache search
[16:47] <sveri> bjwebb: ok, thats a usability reason, but are there some technical reasons?
[16:48] <bjwebb> it automatically removes uneeded dependencies, would you class that as technical?
[16:48] <kaan> hey everyone
[16:48] <bjwebb> sveri: is there a particular reason why you want to know?
[16:48] <kaan> can someone tell me what to install to be able to watch .wmv movies
[16:48] <Xbehave> Can virtualisation be used to crack a bios password?
[16:48] <bjwebb> proabably w32codecs
[16:48] <bjwebb> !w32codecs
[16:48] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[16:49] <dm> what is the "kicker" called in KDE4
[16:49] <bjwebb> dm: was it krunner ?
[16:49] <bjwebb> Xbehave: i shouldn't think so, but im no expert
[16:49] <xerxes1358> Guys can someone help me out here. I am getting crazy
[16:49] <dm> bjwebb no thats the alt F2 "run"
[16:49] <bjwebb> dm: oh
[16:49] <dm> bjwebb im looking for the name of the bar on the bottom
[16:49] <sveri> bjwebb: i just want to know if i can run into errors mixing apt-get and aptitude
[16:50] <bjwebb> sveri: well apt-get install and aptitude install are practically interchangeable
[16:51] <sveri> bjwebb: ok, thank you :-)
[16:51] <bjwebb> xerxes1358: whats the problem, you want gnome?
[16:52] <kaan> thanks bjwebb
[16:52] <bjwebb> xerxes1358: install ubuntu-desktop
[16:52] <bjwebb> if you can do command line, run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:54] <xerxes1358> I think I got it. I had to disable the DVD source
[16:54] <xerxes1358> I think I got it. I had to disable the DVD AS source
[16:55] <xerxes1358> I have to enable Meta City also during startup (when GDM/KDM loads) because everything is misformed and fonts and letters look all huge.
[17:01] <Riddell> ** Next up is "MOTU Processes"  in #ubuntu-classroom
[17:02] <Riddell> Kubuntu talk in 1 hour
[17:02] <bjwebb> oooh
[17:10] <jairoubuntu> hola
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> hey jairoubuntu
[17:12] <jairoubuntu> hola
[17:12] <jairoubuntu> como estan??
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> !es
[17:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:13] <jairoubuntu> hey amigo
[17:13] <jairoubuntu> ubotu
[17:13] <jairoubuntu> necesito ayuda
[17:13] <jairoubuntu> para una web cam
[17:13] <jairoubuntu> me puedes ayudar
[17:14] <BluesKaj> jairoubuntu,  Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:14] <jairoubuntu> okas
[17:14] <jairoubuntu> graciassssssssss
[17:15] <BluesKaj> another guy who doesn't read all the text ,without being prompted :)
[17:21] <norml_advocate> I just installed kde, and my login screen was changed, but I cannot find my login window program thingy under administration anymore.  how do I change my login window settings?
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> norml_advocate » you can switch back to gdm
[17:22] <sravi> norml_advocate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[17:22] <norml_advocate> is that gnome?
[17:22] <Authority> norml_advocate: what do you mean "under administration"?
[17:23] <norml_advocate> sravi what does that do?
[17:23] <encrypt128bit> is it better to use guided partition normal, or guided LVM?
[17:23] <norml_advocate> authority the administration menu
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> norml_advocate » goes back to the old login screen
[17:23] <sravi> norml_advocate: that will prompt you to select kdm/gdm. you select gdm to restore your gnome login manager
[17:23] <Authority> norml_advocate: norml_advocate, run kcontrol, then go to system administration
[17:24] <Authority> norml_advocate: then choose login manager
[17:25] <norml_advocate> Authority: where is kcontrol?
[17:25] <Authority> norml_advocate: run it from a command prompt
[17:25] <norml_advocate> type kcontrol?
[17:25] <Authority> yep
[17:25] <norml_advocate> run kcontrol?
[17:25] <norml_advocate> ok
[17:26] <kaan> okay so Kubuntu is able to see my windows drive which is formatted in NTFS but cannot see the files inside my external harddrive which NTFS as well Does anyone know why?
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> kaan » why can't it? any errors?
[17:27] <kaan> hal-storage removable
[17:27] <kaan> -mount-all options refused
[17:27] <kaan> uid 1000
[17:27] <kaan> this is what it says at the bottom
[17:27] <kaan> any idea nosrednaekim?
[17:28] <Domentarion> hello
[17:28] <Domentarion> i have a problem with my kubuntu
[17:28] <Domentarion> i have install some new updates and now in won't boot anymore
[17:28] <norml_advocate> Authority:  The login manager will not let me edit any of the preferences
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> kaan » yeah.
[17:29] <Authority> norml_advocate: did you click the "administrator mode" button at the bottom?
[17:29] <norml_advocate> yeah and then i typed in my password
[17:29] <LimCore> will ubuntu support fonts in near future?
[17:29] <kaan> okay what is it?
[17:30] <kaan> nosrednaekim
[17:30] <bjwebb> LimCore: ubuntu does do fonts
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> kaan » go into system setting->advanced-> disks and filesystems
[17:30] <LimCore> bjwebb: no, fonts in ubuntu are broken
[17:30] <LimCore> bjwebb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera/+bug/11180
[17:30] <Authority> norml_advocate: does the window now have a red border?
[17:30] <LimCore> is there a work around?
[17:30] <norml_advocate> no
[17:30] <kaan> ok
[17:31] <Authority> norml_advocate: when then it didn't properly switch to roor
[17:31] <Authority> *root
[17:31] <kaan> okay do u want me to tell you whats here?
[17:31] <Authority> or you switched to a different menu item
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> kaan » ok find your external device listed there
[17:31] <kaan> okay yea my external drive doesnt say anything where it says enabled or not... its blank there
[17:32] <kaan> should i modify?
[17:32] <kaan> i dont wanna loose my data in it though
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> kaan » yeah, go into admin mode
[17:33] <kaan> yep
[17:33] <kaan> did that
[17:34] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I install the U.S. International keyboard layout?
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> kaan » ok, edit it, enter some place in "/media" for the mount point
[17:34] <Xbehave> ive heard ktorrent isnt a very good torrent program for people who d/l alot? is there a good alternative? (id rather not use java bassed stuff due to the overhead
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> !torrent
[17:34] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[17:35] <snowdonkey> !us_intl
[17:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us_intl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:36] <acee1234> what do i need to allow to be able to browse the internet through the guarddog firewall?
[17:36] <Xbehave> any recomendations?
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> kaan » allow it to be mounted by any user
[17:36] <jussi01> acee1234: port 80 I suppose...
[17:36] <kaan> hm ok
[17:36] <Xbehave> acee1234: port 8080 or 80
[17:37] <Xbehave> and i think ssh ports are used for https but im not sure
[17:37] <Xbehave> youll also need dns
[17:37] <acee1234> TCP or UDP?
[17:37] <kaan> sweet thanx a lot nosrednaekim!!!!!
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> kaan » that worked?
[17:38] <kaan> yep
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> great
[17:38] <kaan> um 1 more question
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> yup
[17:38] <kaan> i enabled my DVD player/writer but now i think it crashed its still tryin to enable it... :S
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> kaan » dont enable/disable cds or dvds.... it doesn't work, esp if you don't have disk in there
[17:39] <kaan> lol okay thats what i thought lol silly me... :)
[17:39] <acee1234> Xbehave:  UDP or TCP?
[17:39] <kaan> um while talkin to an expert
[17:39] <kaan> :) how do i watch windows wmv/avi movies
[17:39] <kaan> which package should i install?
[17:39] <luke_> kaffine
[17:39] <kaan> they said win32 but i cant find it in packet manager
[17:40] <Xbehave> i dont know i jsut noticed that dns was used when i used iftop i dont no much about firewalls
[17:40] <jussi01> !avi | kaan
[17:40] <ubotu> kaan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:40] <tekteen> !w32codecs
[17:40] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> kaan » try install kubuntu-restricted
[17:40] <kaan> search for that in adept manager?
[17:40] <tekteen> yes
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> kaan » yup
[17:42] <kaan> okay adept manager crashes everytime i try to install it :S
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> kaan » run, from the command line "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[17:43] <lc_> nosrednaekim: I finally got kde working
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> lc_ » cool
[17:43] <lc_> I had to reinstall
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> not cool
[17:45] <acee1234> how do i get things to startup with ubuntu?
[17:45] <coggz> ya, pain in the ass, but got most of my stuff back
[17:46] <coggz> do you know any really usefull 3rd party repositiories
[17:46] <kaan> nosrednaekim >> this is what i got:
[17:46] <kaan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:46] <kaan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:47] <JoshOvki> acee1234: wat do you meanby  get things to start?
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> kaan » close adept,if itsclosed, run
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> !adetpfix
[17:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adetpfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:47] <JoshOvki> !aptfit
[17:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptfit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[17:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:48] <jussi01> hehe
[17:48] <kaan> couldn't run the specified command...
[17:48] <kaan> i typed !adeptfix in the command line
[17:48] <acee1234> JoshOvki: poked around a bit more figured it out was session manager, missed it for some reason thank you though
[17:48] <jussi01> kaan: no  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:49] <JoshOvki> acee1234: ok no problem
[17:50] <kaan> sweet got it!!
[17:50] <coggz> do you know any really usefull 3rd party repositiories
[17:50] <kaan> thanx so much nosrednaekim and jussi01
[17:50] <jussi01> :)
[17:51] <tckb> hello  kubuntu's
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> !mediuntu | coggz
[17:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> !medibuntu | coggz
[17:51] <ubotu> coggz: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:51] <dell> hello world
[17:52] <oem> hello
[17:52] <coggz> aha
[17:52] <tckb> can anybody help me out
[17:53] <tckb> ????
[17:53] <jussi01> !ask | tckb
[17:53] <ubotu> tckb: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:54] <tckb> okie
[17:54] <tckb> how to install  kde4 in kde3.5.8
[17:55] <jussi01> !kde4 | tk
[17:55] <ubotu> tk: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:55] <dell> why in ubuntu/kubuntu 7.10 neostrada tp not connect
[17:55] <jussi01> tckb: sorry, see above
[17:55] <dell> I connect ubudsl
[17:56] <tckb> yeah i saw that ...
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> tckb » something not working?
[17:56] <tckb> how to install it through terminal
[17:56] <flipstar> read that announce website ;)
[17:57] <nlakshma> i am running into a very annoying problem. i installed keytouch and selected a wrong keyboard model. now if i press ctrl, its opening dolphin. anyone know how to fix this?
[17:57] <nlakshma> my keyboard model is not listed there.
[17:57] <coggz> have u tried uninstalling
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> tckb » just add the repsoitory to the /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:57] <coggz> oh
[17:57] <nlakshma> i haven't tried uninstalling. but i believe it modified some config file
[17:57] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu talk about to begin in #ubuntu-classroom
[17:59] <tckb> wich repository???
[17:59] <flipstar> ppa.launchpad see http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php for details
[18:01] <tckb> u mean to add the ftp sites at http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.0.1/
[18:01] <tckb> in sources.lst file?
[18:01] <hawkeye> j #mr-lug
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> tckb » yes
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> tckb » wait... no
[18:02] <tckb> okie
[18:02] <tckb> ????
[18:03] <flipstar> no that there are the sources provided
[18:03] <tckb> so alernatives/?
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> tckb » no... get the sources off that kubuntu page
[18:05] <flipstar> !kde4 > tckb follow the first link
[18:05] <tckb> link?
[18:05] <flipstar> that bot just opens a query to you
[18:05] <flipstar> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php
[18:05] <tckb> u mean  ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.0.1/
[18:06] <flipstar> again: no
[18:09] <tckb> done!!!
[18:10] <tckb> thanX for your help guyzz
[18:11] <tckb> and 1 more Question ...does the latest comes wid kde 4
[18:11] <tckb> latest kubuntu 7.10
[18:11] <szakulec> how can I check how long a commandline process has run for?
[18:12] <trappist> szakulec: ps aux
[18:12] <sravi> my laptop's touchpad enable/disable key generates XF86Launch0 key and it launches khelpcenter. does anyone know how to disable it?
[18:12] <tckb> hmm <szakulec> try ps
[18:12] <szakulec> i tried that- which column is the time the process has run?
[18:13] <flipstar> tckb: there will be an kde4 version of hardy 8.04 i dont know about gutsy..guess not
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[18:13] <tckb> okie... flipstar
[18:15] <addikt1ve> \o/
[18:16] <lg188_> whallo
[18:16] <szakulec> maybe I'm doing something wrong, so here's what I'm doing: I'm recording from my vcr currently (using cat /dev/video0 >movie.mpg) and so I'd like to see how long it's running for
[18:16] <tckb> wat o/p ur getting on ps
[18:18] <differentreality> an someone plz help me set up my wireless card with kubuntu ? I have Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG  and it should work without any drivers to be needed..
[18:18] <szakulec> zakulec 6545 0.0 0.1 2896 588 pts/0 S+ 13:07 0:00 cat /dev/video0
[18:19] <flipstar> !wireless | differentreality
[18:19] <ubotu> differentreality: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:19] <differentreality> tnx
[18:19] <flipstar> szakulec: so it runs since 13:07
[18:19] <szakulec> okay- that makes sense
[18:22] <tckb> try like ps -f <szakulec>
[18:22] <tckb> u will get the start time
[18:25] <tckb> k bye
[18:25] <norml_advocate> how do I get my quick user switch applet back?
[18:25] <trappist> norml_advocate: use kdm?
[18:25] <norml_advocate> yes
[18:25] <norml_advocate> no
[18:25] <norml_advocate> i jsut switched back to gdm
[18:25] <trappist> norml_advocate: that's why you don't have the applet
[18:26] <norml_advocate> but  I want it
[18:26] <norml_advocate> so how do i get my quick user switch applet back?
[18:27] <trappist> ... use kdm
[18:27] <unagi> rawr?
[18:27] <norml_advocate> but when I use kdm  and type kcontrol i cannot use the administrator mode for some reason
[18:28] <norml_advocate> so i cannot edit the login window
[18:28] <trappist> well you won't get that applet without kdm, so my advice would be switch back, then troubleshoot that other problem
[18:29] <trappist> also, don't type kcontrol.  iirc that's obolete.  use systemsettings
[18:30] <trappist> or if you must, try kdesu kcontrol
[18:31] <c0demonkey> hi folks whats up ?
[18:32] <sigma_1234> !wma
[18:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:34] <sigma_1234> what do you install to play wma?
[18:34] <oloughlin75> sigma_1234: you need w32codecs from medibuntu
[18:34] <oloughlin75> !medibuntu | sigma_1234
[18:34] <ubotu> sigma_1234: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[18:34] <slow-motion> bye
[18:52] <nzk> How do I untar a .bz2 file in the command line?
[18:52] <selckin> man tar
[18:53] <nzk> I looked there
[18:53] <flipstar> nzk: tar -xf <file>
[18:53] <nzk> Ahh, I was missing the f
[18:54] <flipstar> nzk: it is also mentioned in man tar ;)
[19:15] <paule118> bbbbbbbbb
[19:15] <paule118> (n=paule118@p54BD271F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de).
[19:16] <orbitize> Is there anyone here that could help me with PHP5 on Apache2 please?
[19:16] <Tm_T> orbitize: don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[19:16] <orbitize> Thank you Tm_T: The problem is that I cannot get PHP to work on my apache installation
[19:16] <paule118> don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[19:17] <orbitize> I tried installing the normal packages from adept_manager
[19:17] <orbitize> but it still wont register in apache
[19:18] <paule118>  installing the normal packages from adept_manager
[19:18] <orbitize> php5 and apache2-mod
[19:19] <orbitize> sorry, that last one is: libapache2-mod-php5
[19:19] <orbitize> and php5-common
[19:19] <Scunizi> Is there a channel for Kontact?
[19:20] <orbitize> when I try to load index.php, it gives me an "open file" dialog
[19:20] <paule118> skype installing the normal packages from adept_manager ???
[19:20] <ThomasD> orbitize: try #apache
[19:21] <orbitize> thank you ThomasD
[19:21] <paule118> Read error: 110
[19:21] <paule118> Read error: 110 Read error: 110 Read error: 110 Read error: 110 Read error: 110 Read error: 110 Read error: 110 Read error: 110 Read error: 110
[19:25] <hydrogen> Is there a qt-4.4 build for gutsy in a ppa somewhere?
[19:27] <Tm_T> hydrogen: not that I know, I did build qt-copy :(
[19:31] <unagi__> RAWR!
[19:40] <bobby> ive been using ubuntu for a couple months, the other day i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, so now im using kubuntu, im having some difficulties though. First, I find the window redraw to be very slow!
[19:41] <kaan> any C programmers?
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> bobby » and...
[19:41] <kaan> ?
[19:41] <bobby> could anyone help me fix that? I installed the restricted drivers while under gnome and everything seems fine there.
[19:41] <kaan> or does anyone know which channel i could get help for C programming
[19:41] <oloughlin75> kaan: how advanced is the question?
[19:42] <kaan> very simple actually
[19:42] <oloughlin75> whats the question? i -might- be able to help if its simple
[19:42] <hydrogen> kaan: #c
[19:42] <kaan> im tryin to store whatever is in argv[i] in a string
[19:42] <hydrogen> oloughlin75: wrong channel for it :)
[19:42] <oloughlin75> blah
[19:42] <hydrogen> might be ##c
[19:42] <oloughlin75> !ot | kaan
[19:42] <ubotu> kaan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:43] <oloughlin75> happy hydrogen? :)
[19:43] <kaan> any idea oloughlin?
[19:43] <hydrogen> kaan: ##c :)
[19:43] <oloughlin75> java has a String class, so im not sure about c.
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> bobby » just slow window redraw(not that thats not a problem)
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> ?
[19:45] <bobby> ah yes, i was having problems with comboboxes flashing but found on aseigos blog that it was a problem with the polyester style so i changed that, but yes, very slow redraw,
[19:47] <bobby> when i stretch windows or move windows over others or when changing tabs, you can see the redraw happenning, while it's only a couple seconds and not minutes it's still very distracting.
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> bobby » hum, I hav heard complaints about that, but I never did see anyone fix it. you could of course switch to compiz as a window manager if you have the graphics power
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> bobby » it seems hardware specific
[19:50] <bobby> thats the thing, in gnome i have set up the restricted ati drivers and i have all eye candy on and it works great so it cant be a hardware issue, it has to be the way i have kubuntu set up. (i havent done anything to tweak it as this is my first experience with it)
[19:50] <kaan> how da fuck do i register and talk in #c channel
[19:50] <kaan> this is so gay
[19:50] <bobby> (dont yet know how)
[19:50] <kaan> sorry for bad language
[19:50] <kaan> im just really mad
[19:51] <oloughlin75> kaan: /msg nickserv register password
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> bobby » try turning on compiz in kde ("compiz --replace"_
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> "compiz --replace"
[19:51] <kaan> it says my nickname is already registered
[19:51] <kaan> well duh....
[19:52] <bobby> ok, i'll try that!
[19:52] <kaan> i mean why such a stupid system is needed...
[19:52] <kaan> anyways so what do i do?
[19:52] <flipstar> rename
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> kaan » change your nick
[19:52] <oloughlin75> kaan: are you going to use String.h or a char array and call it a string?
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> with "/nick newnick"
[19:52] <kaan> char array
[19:53] <kaan> hm actually maybe string.h might make things easier cause im not limited
[19:53] <oloughlin75> kaan: make a new array the same length as argv and then use a for loop to copy its contents
[19:53] <joker> okay im kaan
[19:53] <bobby> Checking for Xgl: present.
[19:53] <bobby> Checking for nVidia: not present.
[19:53] <bobby> Checking for Xgl: present.
[19:53] <bobby> Enabling Xgl with fglrx ATi drivers...
[19:53] <bobby> libccs: dlopen: /usr/lib/compizconfig/backends/libkconfig.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:53] <bobby> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[19:54] <joker> hm okay will try that thnx oloughlin
[19:54] <bobby> the title bars on my windows have disappeared now! :(
[19:54] <oloughlin75> bobby: do kdm --replace
[19:54] <flipstar> bobby just start emerald or your window manager
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> bobby » run "sudo apt-get install emerald" and then try again
[19:55] <bobby> "--replace" is an unknown option or is missing a parameter
[19:55] <bobby> ok
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> bobby » oh! there you go, I know why its so slow :)
[19:55] <oloughlin75> emerald --replace, compiz --replace, kwin --replace, or metacity --replace; whichever you use
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> bobby » you are running XGL without a compositing window manager.... no wonderits slow :)
[19:56] <bobby> ok so install emerald? or...?
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> bobby » yeah.. install emerald
[19:56] <bobby> k
[19:56] <jeffy124> hi all, i've just installed Kubuntu Gutsy and Kopete crashes when i try and sign in. has anyone else had this problem?
[19:56] <flipstar> emerald is already great
[19:57] <oloughlin75> jeffy124: its a bug, im not sure if theres a fix or workaround yet
[19:57] <nosrednaekim> jeffy124 » yup... tons.... run all system updates:)
[19:57] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » it was fixed the day after relase... but it made it onto the CDs regardless <_<
[19:57] <flipstar> i just wrote me an script http://pastebin.com/m3d33cd3a that starts compiz after login :P
[19:57] <oloughlin75> i hate kopete anyway :)
[19:58] <bobby> AH! nosrednaekim, it works, no more redraw delay, woo hoo!
[19:58] <bobby> thanks a bunch!
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> bobby » yeah.... tis cause you are using XGL, so you need compiz running or its awful slow
[19:58] <jeffy124> oloughlin75: yep. i'll use amsn is kopete doesn't work...
[19:59] <bobby> ah good to know! will i have difficulties if i go back into gnome now?
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> bobby » nope
[20:00] <LamerMan> hi everyone! where does wine keep its fon settings? i can't set russian font for some menu text
[20:00] <bobby> problem! if i close the terminal, it reverts back, the emerald theme disappears and no more title bars
[20:01] <LamerMan> *hi everyone! where does wine keep its font settings? i can't set russian font for some menu text
[20:01] <ubuntu__> hi
[20:01] <oloughlin75> bobby: hit alt+f2 and type in emeral --replace in there and hit enter
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> bobby » right.... do "alt+f2" and run compiz --replace there
[20:01] <oloughlin75> emerald*
[20:01] <ubuntu__> I just booted from an ubuntu image cd and I have to say that kubuntu is awesome!
[20:01] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__: Its true :)
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » afaik, emerald --replace only works if compiz is running
[20:02] <bobby> nice!
[20:02] <ubuntu__> I want to install kubuntu on my external hdd but
[20:03] <ubuntu__> it doesn't show up in the menu when I want to choose the drive
[20:03] <jeffy124> ok, Kopete crashes and won't run. what's the next best IM client? can i run GAIM in Kubuntu, or should i use amsn? opinions please!
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » what doesn't show up in which menu?
[20:03] <oloughlin75> jeffy124: i prefer pidgin (gaim has a new name)
[20:03] <nosrednaekim> jeffy124 » did you grab all system updates?
[20:03] <oloughlin75> jeffy124: kopete will work if you get all the updates
[20:03] <ubuntu__> my external hdd does not show up in the menu where i can choose the drive to install to
[20:04] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__: is it mounted?
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> jeffy124 » that bug was fixed a long time ago run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[20:04] <jeffy124> ok i'll try updates first...
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » did you choose manual partitioning?
[20:04] <ubuntu__> I dont know, when i switch it on it aks what to do so I assume it is
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> jeffy124 » after running the updates, you will have to log out, and then back in
[20:04] <ubuntu__> yes#
[20:04] <ubuntu__> I did
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » and it was on the list of drives?
[20:05] <ubuntu__> only my windows partition
[20:05] <ubuntu__> hda1
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> there wasn't sda?
[20:06] <ubuntu__> uhm
[20:06] <ubuntu__> wait
[20:06] <ubuntu__> Ill run the install dialog and see
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » ok, say what there is there under manual partitioning... i'll BRB
[20:07] <bobby> nosrednaekim: thanks for your help today, take care.
[20:07] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » learn alot?
[20:09] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: not really
[20:10] <ubuntu__> Ok I have hda, hda1(ntfs), sda, sda1
[20:10] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: i was lucky i signed in when it began....i didnt know what time
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » yeah.... this session wasn't as good as the one we had back in November...
[20:10] <knyaz> õàé àëë
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> *December
[20:10] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__: you want to use sda1
[20:10] <ubuntu__> no I want to use the external drive
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » ok, you are going to have to put shrink sda1 and add a 1GB partition at the end for swap
[20:11] <ubuntu__> but idk if its mounted and whats its name
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » sda1 is the external drive
[20:11] <oloughlin75> sda1 is the external, right nosrednaekim?
[20:11] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » unless of course you have two internal hard drives
[20:11] <ubuntu__> no I have only 1
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> ok... sda is the external.
[20:11] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:12] <ubuntu__> theres a mount point displayed( at hda1)
[20:12] <flipstar> Error: "slice end not reached but screenspace end (8 left DF0000, score=-71744" anyone knows what this means ?
[20:12] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__: is it like /media/hda1?
[20:12] <ubuntu__> yepp
[20:13] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__: that just means itll mount to that location automatically
[20:13] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:13] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__: so you can access it
[20:13] <ubuntu__> and another thing
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » thats fine... just don't check "format"
[20:13] <ubuntu__> there is already some stuff on hda1
[20:13] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__: you want sda1 to have mount loaction /
[20:13] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:13] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » first, shrink sda1 for the swap partition though.
[20:14] <oloughlin75> and you need to resize sda1 to be a gig smaller, and make a new swap partition thats a gig
[20:14] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:15] <davebv> hi! has someone upgraded to the kde 3.5.9?
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> davebv » some have.... I haven't personally
[20:15] <amerio> genii u there?
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> I don't use 3.5.x anymore :)
[20:16] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: is a recompile of alsa needed for kde upgrades?
[20:16] <AndreSTC> whats kdewallet default password?
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » nope... on kernels
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> *only
[20:16] <oloughlin75> good :)
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> AndreSTC » uhh there is none, it prompts you for one on its first run
[20:17] <ubuntu__> another point is
[20:17] <davebv> I just did it (upgraded) and when I use amarok, it does not autodetect the ipod
[20:17] <davebv> or any other device
[20:17] <amerio> I just formatted a parition to ext3 but cannot seem to create folders inside it or copy files to it
[20:17] <amerio> any help?
[20:17] <davebv> it says something about dbus and hal
[20:17] <ubuntu__> when I want my comp to boot from the external I have to set it in the bios right?
[20:17] <ForgeAus> wow #debian are snobs!
[20:18] <ForgeAus> they banned me for asking help to get dpkg working on interix and mentioning kubuntu
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » or use the boot menu (usually f12 during the BIOS splash)
[20:18] <ubuntu__> yeah I know how to get this menu up, but I cant select the booting device to usb/external
[20:19] <ubuntu__> maybe I should upgrade my bios?
[20:19] <ubuntu__> update
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » how old is your computer?
[20:19] <ForgeAus> ubuntu carefully :)
[20:19] <ubuntu__> sony vaio, about 3 years
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » and the device has to be plugged in when you do f12
[20:19] <AndreSTC> nosrednaekim is there a way to see the kdewallet password?
[20:19] <amerio> I just formatted a parition to ext3 but cannot seem to create folders inside it or copy files to it.. does any1 have any idea how to fix that?
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> AndreSTC » no. but I think you can reset it somehow
[20:20] <Powerking89670> Is there a way to restart my sound devices so I do not need to reboot to use them again?
[20:20] <flipstar> amerio: you propably have to set permissions to acces the partition - or mount it as user
[20:20] <amerio> flipstar how to do that ?
[20:21] <amerio> flipstar its mounted but cannot create folders or copy files to it
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » ok, that shoul be able to do it
[20:21] <ubuntu__> ok thx
[20:21] <ubuntu__> but one last thing
[20:21] <ubuntu__> when I try to acces the external device via dolphin
[20:22] <ubuntu__> it says at the bottom
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » putting the removeable device first in boot priority could be easier though
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » don't try to access it while you are installing!
[20:22] <dorkface> Hi all.  I love the
[20:22] <ubuntu__> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[20:22] <dorkface> doh
[20:23] <ubuntu__> yeah Im not installing atm
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » why are you trying to read it? is there data on it?
[20:23] <ubuntu__> yes
[20:23] <flipstar> amerio: you could open konqueror with root right <kdesu konqueror /media/> and then right click on the directory where your mounted partition is in and set permissions
[20:23] <dorkface> Hi all, I love the CLI as much as anybody, and that means whenever I am typing and some other program comes up in my way, it becomes VERY frustrating.  Is there a way to prevent ANY program from taking focus away from konsole?
[20:24] <amerio> flipstar I use gnome , dont have konqueror
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » ah.. in that case, go into systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions, enter admin mode, click edit on sda1, and allow it to be mounted by anyone
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> amerio » in that case..... #ubuntu
[20:24] <dorkface> other than keeping the window at the top
[20:24] <ubuntu__> ok... give me two secs^^
[20:24] <amerio> nosrednaekim yeah I know , but they never answer :(
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> dorkface » uhh go to ctrl+alt+f2 :)
[20:25] <dorkface> nosrednaekim: hehe
[20:25] <flipstar> amerio: then replace konqueror with your file browser
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> amerio » well, we can't really help you here since you do not have the tools we have
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> dorkface » but seriously.. there is a way to enable focus stealing prevention
[20:25] <Alen> Hello
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> hello Alen
[20:26] <amerio> nosredanekim thats true , i thought some1 could help me , thanx anyway
[20:26] <Alen> can i add repo on Feist Fawn to update my Kubuntu ?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> Alen » update or upgrade?
[20:26] <Alen> KDE 3.5.9
[20:26] <Alen> update
[20:26] <Alen> not upgrade
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> Alen » no, thats not available for fiesty
[20:26] <Alen> ok :(
[20:27] <Alen> thank anyway
[20:27] <ubuntu__> what mountpoint should I set?
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> Alen » its just a bug-fix release
[20:27] <ForgeAus> alen the easiest way is to go into adept
[20:27] <ForgeAus> and manage packages
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » /media/something
[20:27] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:27] <ubuntu__> and enable at boot?
[20:27] <ForgeAus> (or is it manage sources) something like that
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » don't worry about that, since the liveCD will forget your settings
[20:28] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:29] <Alen> i trayed to manage but they dont want to update it is unsuported new version on FF
[20:29] <Alen> :D
[20:29] <dorkface> nosrednaekim: sweet, found it in window behavior.  Take that would-be focus stealers!  *glee*
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> :)
[20:29] <ubuntu__> it says that the drive is not active
[20:30] <ubuntu__> and not mounted
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » ok...click enable.
[20:30] <ubuntu__> ok
[20:32] <Thug_Nasty> Okay retarded question for you when you have a minute. I have an HP printer and in the printer settigns I have printout mode as like draft grayscale. But when I pring something, the black text is printed green. It's not a hardware problem because when I print stuff on XP it comesout fine. Any ideas what I need to change settings wise? Thanks.
[20:32] <Thug_Nasty> The problem happens when on Kubuntu*.
[20:32] <ForgeAus> hmmm how do I get myself unbanned from #Debian?
[20:32] <oloughlin75> ForgeAus: you don't?
[20:33] <ForgeAus> guess not :(
[20:33] <ForgeAus> I wonder how long their bans last
[20:33] <kaanselhep> can anyone help me with KDevelop
[20:33] <ubuntu__> -.- just noticed that the drive does not show up in the systemsettings and konqueror all the time, its like on, off, on, off/switches
[20:34] <ForgeAus> KDevelop rocks!
[20:34] <kaanselhep> why line/code completion doesn't work though?
[20:34] <trappist> ForgeAus: I once got banned from #debian for politely disagreeing with an op on a technical issue.  then I switched to ubuntu (and #ubuntu)
[20:34] <kaanselhep> do i have to enable it after first install?
[20:34] <ForgeAus> um kaansel I think #Kubuntu-dev or #KDE-dev are more likely useful to you
[20:34] <flipstar> kaanselhep: yes
[20:34] <kaanselhep> ok
[20:34] <flipstar> install bash_completion
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> Thug_Nasty » you have to set the mode to greyscale
[20:35] <trappist> flipstar: bash_completion doesn't handle code completion in IDEs
[20:35] <ForgeAus> does kdevelop even have code completion?
[20:35] <ForgeAus> something like komodo probably does (dunno if theres a linux vers of that tho)
[20:35] <oloughlin75> eclipse does and supports c i think
[20:35] <trappist> ForgeAus: there's a linux version of komodo, and it rocks
[20:36] <kaanselhep> lol okay how do i enable it?
[20:36] <Thug_Nasty> nosrednaekim: When I do that, would that completely disable color? Like if there is black and color in the same document or whatever, how can I get both?
[20:36] <ForgeAus> trappist  sounds like it should be my next project :)
[20:36] <trappist> ForgeAus: of course, it's not free
[20:36] <flipstar> kaanselhep: trappist sorry i overread that kdevelop line
[20:36] <ForgeAus> it makes for an awesome Python editor :)
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> Thug_Nasty » well, usually when that happens, the black is printed with the color cartridge (dumb, I know)
[20:37] <Thug_Nasty> nosrednaekim: Okay, good to know. Thanks.
[20:38] <arcticpenguin380> !XFS
[20:38] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus » python editor? i'm looking for one...
[20:39] <ForgeAus> nosred theres always Eclipse
[20:40] <ubuntu__> Ok finally It isnt switching anymore, when I click in mount, it says indicated unclean shutdown etc, Ill boot windows and "safely remove hardware" and after, ill try this again
[20:40] <anon32> !zfs
[20:40] <ubotu> For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[20:40] <ubuntu__> anyway, thx alot nosrednaekim!
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus » yeah... but i'm on amd64... I don't think java is going to be fun
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__ » ok
[20:41]  * nosrednaekim wats ZFS
[20:41] <anon32> God I want native ZFS... I don't even care if it violates GPL. To hell with that.
[20:41]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> you can get it....with FUSE
[20:41] <anon32> which is SLOW
[20:41] <ForgeAus> theres a wiki site with python ide's
[20:41] <anon32> therefore making it USELESS
[20:42] <ForgeAus> (and that of many other languages too
[20:42] <ForgeAus> unless its not a wiki lol but there is defienitely a site that lists IDE's for various languages...
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[20:42] <anon32> oh yeah, and why do filesystems have character encodings? that doesn't make sense.
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> but I don't have time to test them all out
[20:43] <coggz> help needed with printers
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> alrighty...... bye everyone
[20:44] <coggz> does anyone know anything about lexmark printers?
[20:44] <jussi01> coggz: linuxprinting.org
[20:45] <coggz> i have looked, my printer is 'paperweight'
[20:45] <coggz> anyone got any workarounds?
[20:48] <coggz> anyone?
[20:48] <Tm_T> !print | coggz
[20:48] <ubotu> coggz: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[20:49] <trappist> coggz: if your printer is listed as unsupported, you may be out of luck.  but just for fun, what model is it?
[20:49] <coggz> i know how to do that, i have a hp printer working over a samba share
[20:49] <valery> Hello. Where i can set number tty? (Ctrl+Shift+F1..F2..F3)
[20:49] <coggz> it is a Lexmark X2350
[20:49] <kaanselhep> bye everyone thnx for hlep
[20:49] <kaanselhep> help*
[20:50] <ubuntu_> lexmark printers cause nothing but trouble, but that's always been the case
[20:51] <coggz> yes, its a pain. Do you fancy the challenge? It is my only colour printer
[20:52] <Neumaennl> why did you buy a lexmakr in the first place?
[20:52] <coggz> i had it for over a year, when the whole house used windows
[20:52] <Neumaennl> they may only cost 30€ but they come with almost empty ink cartridges and those cost 40€ and up :P
[20:53] <coggz> now i have switched, but the print server is win
[20:53] <ForgeAus> is there a way to install .deb's without dpkg?
[20:53] <coggz> no, ink is only £10
[20:53] <ForgeAus> (ie manually?)
[20:54] <flipstar> ForgeAus: gdebo can install debs but i guess everything with packages on debian depends on dpkg but im not sure
[20:54] <Neumaennl> coggz: I don't know anything about Lexmark apart from that I only hear complaints about them
[20:54] <flipstar> *gedebi
[20:54] <flipstar> *gdebi
[20:55] <ForgeAus> hmmm this box doesn't have gdebi
[20:55] <trappist> coggz: if you can extract the ppd from this mac driver, you may be on to something: http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/231862/lexmark-x2230-x2250-all-in-one-driver-v1.0.7-mac-os-10-free-download.html
[20:55] <ForgeAus> really isn't a .deb just a compressed file?
[20:55] <coggz> ok, i will give it a shot
[20:56] <ForgeAus> (with scripts to install binaries/source with?)
[20:57] <sj_> hi! I#ve got a strange problem after upgrading kde to 3.5.9: the path ist set to the rootfolder (/) instead my desktop folder (/home/user/desktop). I can't use the kcontrol module "Paths" to change the path, because it tries to move all the systemfolders into the new Desktop folder :)
[20:58] <sj_> Does anybody knows where the path can be set manually?
[20:58] <ForgeAus> you can use export keyword
[20:58] <ForgeAus> to set environment variables
[20:58] <trappist> sj_: are you talking about the PATH environment variable?
[20:58] <ForgeAus> but to put it in a script I aren't sure
[20:59] <ForgeAus> possibly something like bash.rc ?
[20:59] <flipstar> ForgeAus: right a .deb is only a compressed file with control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, debian-binary
[20:59] <sj_> no - im talking about the configuration of the folder containing the files you see on the Desktop
[20:59] <ForgeAus> flipstar
[21:00] <ForgeAus> whats control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz ?
[21:00] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I once saw an applet for the desktop which organized your icons into "baskets".  It's not the program "basKet", though.
[21:00] <ForgeAus> (does one of them contain binaries, are some source packages?)
[21:00] <vsudilov_> hey guys, if I want to ssh into a machine, start a process, logout of that machine, and still have that process running after the logout, what must be done? I'm using bash
[21:00] <trappist> coggz: actually it looks like those are the wrong drivers - usually if there are mac drivers for a printer, you can use the ppd in linux, since macos uses cups.  but it doesn't look like those drivers support that printer, and it doesn't look like there are any mac OR linux drivers for that printer.
[21:00] <ForgeAus> and what kind of compression is the .deb itself (I get the internal tarballs) but how to decompress .deb without dpkg?
[21:01] <coggz> ?
[21:01] <trappist> ForgeAus: I've never done it, but I imagine it's similar to rpm, where you have to use cpio tools
[21:01] <coggz> so those mac drivers are wrong
[21:01] <ForgeAus> I have cpio
[21:01] <martijn81> ForgeAus: you can probably use ark fot that
[21:01] <trappist> coggz: well, for your printer, yeah, it seems so
[21:01] <anon32> ForgeAus, I believe it is a shar archive containing two gzipped tarballs
[21:01] <anon32> 7-zip can open it
[21:01] <flipstar> ForgeAus: data contains the data..control.tar.gz contains control md5sums postinst postrm prerm
[21:02] <trappist> ForgeAus: I don't think it's cpio, I just think that like rpm it's more than just a compressed archive
[21:02] <ForgeAus> I don't have 7z
[21:02] <coggz> trappist: ill have to keep looking
[21:02] <sourcemaker> are you using kde 3.5.9?
[21:02] <ForgeAus> yes it is like an rpm that much I know
[21:02] <anon32> ForgeAus, 'man deb' gives a description of it
[21:02] <sj_> yes
[21:03] <sj_> repository: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu gutsy main
[21:04] <sj_> XDG_DESKTOP_DIR[$e] in .config/user-dirs.dirs is set to the right directory
[21:05] <unagi> anyone here know inkscape well?
[21:06] <Tm_T> define "well"
[21:06] <sourcemaker> sj_: Is it stable?
[21:06]  * jussi01 can use it
[21:06]  * Tm_T hates these metaquestions
[21:06]  * jussi01 hugs Tm_T 
[21:06] <anon32> gah, ppa repositories need signing keys...
[21:07] <Tm_T> anon32: no, ignore it
[21:07] <jussi01> anon32: dnt mind the error
[21:07] <sj_> its stable, released today
[21:07] <unagi> hrm, well enough to edit gradients and cut shapes?
[21:07] <anon32> Tm_T, jussi01, I don't want to ignore it
[21:08] <Tm_T> unagi: I wonder when this leads to "kubuntu support" question
[21:08] <anon32> it also kills update scripts...
[21:08] <Tm_T> anon32: you have to
[21:08] <anon32> bah, screw it
[21:08] <Tm_T> anon32: or, hummm, I dunno, is there key in launchpad page? check
[21:09] <anon32> nah, no keys anywhere
[21:09] <anon32> I'll just install KDE4 when Hardy is out
[21:09] <jussi01> unagi: you might find someone in #ubuntustudio to help, but its pretty quiet
[21:09] <unagi> so is #inkscape
[21:09] <stdin> PPA's can't sign repos yet, you do indeed have to ignore it
[21:09] <anon32> ignoring it leaves you open to a man-in-the-middle attack
[21:09] <stdin> use --force-yes with apt-get to force apt to ignore the message
[21:09] <anon32> and then you also force it to b0rk your system
[21:10] <anon32> real smart
[21:10] <stdin> "tough"
[21:10] <anon32> "broken"
[21:10] <stdin> no amount of complaining is going to magically make the PPA be signed
[21:10] <anon32> I bet you're also the guy that recommends running everything as root
[21:10] <Tm_T> anon32: reasons why stuff like "stable release" stay stable, I hope
[21:10] <stdin> um, no
[21:10] <jussi01> anon32: careful ;)
[21:11] <anon32> why not? if you get rooted, "touch luck"
[21:11] <stdin> if you don't like it, simple, don't use it.
[21:11] <Tm_T> anon32: nownow, we just try to help, there's things we can't change even we wanted to
[21:12] <BluesKaj> just installed kde 3.5.9 . Seems stable so far.
[21:12] <Neumaennl> I thought KDE 4 was out?
[21:12] <anon32> stdin, whether or not I use it doesn't change the fact that it's broken. That's enough for today...
[21:12] <Tm_T> Neumaennl: it is
[21:12] <jussi01> BluesKaj: what are the major improvements?
[21:12] <anon32> Neumaennl, it is, that's for people scared of KDE 4.
[21:12] <Tm_T> jussi01: bugfix release
[21:12] <jussi01> k
[21:12] <Neumaennl> ok ;)
[21:12] <stdin> anon32: it's broken ey? fine
[21:13] <BluesKaj> jussi01, dunno for sure , I just got an RSS feed anouncing it's "official release "
[21:13] <Tm_T> jussi01: see kde.org ;)
[21:13] <stdin> http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_8to3_5_9.php :)
[21:13] <anon32> according to them, it's mostly merging in kde-pim
[21:14] <Tm_T> stdin: thats the one, thank you sir
[21:14] <BluesKaj> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-359.php
[21:18] <BluesKaj> anon32, I tried kde4, but it wasn't for me I'm afraid...maybe my setup wasn't quite ready for it.
[21:19] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: you should try KDE 4.1 ;)
[21:19] <anon32> doesn't KDE4 require *less* resources?
[21:19] <anon32> Tm_T, vaporware
[21:19] <anon32> it doesn't exist
[21:19] <oloughlin75> BluesKaj: it looks like it will be great once its major features are finished, though
[21:19] <Tm_T> anon32: well it does, as "work in progress"
[21:20] <Tm_T> anon32: not as stable release, I know, I know it very well, but it does exist in some sense
[21:20] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, 4.1?
[21:21] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: 4.0.90 or so atm but you got the idea
[21:21] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:21] <anon32> does .90 mean 90%?
[21:21] <Tm_T> anon32: no
[21:21]  * anon32 understood that idea
[21:21]  * anon32 never understood that idea*
[21:22] <Tm_T> trunk in kde svn, it's bit b0rky atm but it has more features than stable does
[21:23] <sj_> sourcemaker: Even in is no clue how to set the Desktop Folder: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables
[21:24] <sourcemaker> sj_: thanks
[21:24] <Neumaennl> I just tried to install kubuntu on my USB HDD, but for some reason GRUB didn't seem to get installed although the GRUB installer reported success
[21:24] <Neumaennl> and I did _not_ install GRUB on my internal HDD ;)
[21:24] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, what kde4 are you running ?
[21:24] <anon32> how do I set a custom wallpaper for the login window? It seems to fail when I choose something in my home directory
[21:25] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: trunk, so "soon to be 4.1 one"
[21:25] <BluesKaj> Tm_T,I mean  what version
[21:25] <BluesKaj> URL?
[21:26] <Neumaennl> BluesKaj: I think he used the most up-to-date version available from CVS or SVN or whatever version control system ubuntu is using
[21:27] <sj_> seems to be an older problem, i found a forum posting fromm 2003 describing the problem
[21:27] <BluesKaj> SVN , more likely ...a bit of PITA  for me
[21:28] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: svn ofcourse, I can't wait packages, if I try to fiddle with upstream
[21:28] <BluesKaj> right
[21:29] <BluesKaj> I think i'll wait for the "official release" :)
[21:29] <Tm_T> heh, you should, as said, currently b0rky
[21:29] <Tm_T> but this is slipping to way too offtopic
[21:31] <BluesKaj> altho betas like firefox are easier to dump if they get problematic , so FF3 b3 is quite good
[21:31] <BluesKaj> so far
[21:33] <wromich> hi people:)
[22:06] <icanhasadmin> Hi.
[22:06] <oloughlin75> Hello!
[22:06] <NickPresta> hi icanhasadmin
[22:06] <jpatrick> !hi | icanhasadmin
[22:06] <ubotu> icanhasadmin: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[22:07] <icanhasadmin> Thanks.. I have a lil problem but I don't think it's kde related, should I ask in #ubuntu?
[22:07] <NickPresta> icanhasadmin, are you running Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[22:07] <icanhasadmin> Ubuntu 7.10, but I installed KDE afterwards. Gnome is still my default tho.
[22:07] <tekteen> you can ask it on both if it is not kde related.
[22:07] <icanhasadmin> lol well thanks i guess :D
[22:08] <tekteen> when you installed kubuntu-desktop did you make kdm or gdm the default login manager?
[22:08] <icanhasadmin> gdm
[22:08] <tekteen> ok
[22:09] <tekteen> do you know how to switch to kde?
[22:09] <icanhasadmin> Yes :)
[22:09] <tekteen> ok
[22:09] <icanhasadmin> But that doesn't involve my problem, lol. My audio doesn't work.
[22:09] <tekteen> I think this is more of a gnome question
[22:09] <jpatrick> !sound > icanhasadmin
[22:09] <icanhasadmin> Ok then.
[22:09] <tekteen> wait
[22:09] <tekteen> is sound not working in kde
[22:10] <icanhasadmin> Well I know a little about what I'm doing, but thank you jpatrick :)
[22:10] <icanhasadmin> tekteen: it's not working in either
[22:10] <tekteen> ok
[22:10] <jpatrick> icanhasadmin: see ubotu's pm for more info :)
[22:10] <icanhasadmin> I did, I've been reading through those files most of the last hour..
[22:13] <icanhasadmin> I guess I'm having trouble figuring out if maybe it's just not supported? It's a HDA SB450
[22:14] <tekteen> I will look it up
[22:14] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: just started reading. Whats your problem? Sound card not working? Does it work in gnome?
[22:15] <icanhasadmin> thank you
[22:16] <icanhasadmin> It works in neither kde or gnome. ubuntu seems to recognize it, i can mute and unmute and change volume
[22:16] <icanhasadmin> just no sound. no OS sounds, no audio from videos or music
[22:16] <oloughlin75> intel hd audio?
[22:17] <icanhasadmin> you guessed it
[22:17] <sfire> does anyone know if the problems with ATI video cards and kaffeine have been fixed?
[22:17] <Artimus> Is there anyway to set the default ethernet connection in KNetworkManager?  When I resume my computer, it tries to get an ip address with eth1, meaning I can't get on the internet until I manually tell knetworkmanager to connect with eth0.
[22:17] <icanhasadmin> i can't figure out the right modprobe command for it, ATI HDA SB450
[22:18] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: I didnt deal with it. The newest alsa drivers work great, but youll have to recompile every time theres a kernal update. :/
[22:18] <hola> sameone help me to configure my webcam?
[22:18] <oloughlin75> !webcam
[22:18] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:18] <oloughlin75> Check if it supported hola
[22:19] <hola> oloughlin75: problably not by it seem stange that it is not possibile to allow it works
[22:19] <icanhasadmin> oloughlin75: so wait, it works... if you do something?
[22:21] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: i used the latest alsa drivers -- not officially support by ubuntu and you have to reinstall them every time theres a kernal upgrade
[22:21] <oloughlin75> but they work great :)
[22:22] <jeffy124> hi again everyone. i want to report a bug in Kopete. where should i report the bug? bugs.kde.org or launchpad?
[22:23] <icanhasadmin> ok, is there a guide to installing the new alsa drivers somewhere? i'm guessing i might have to remove the old ones?
[22:23] <icanhasadmin> and do I have to compile them INTO the kernel?
[22:23] <oloughlin75> dont have to remove the old ones
[22:23] <kaminix> What's the name of the power manager application for KDE? I want to restart it. Does it require sudo?
[22:23] <tekteen> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[22:24] <Maxim000> Where can I see (edit) command that execute when I press Log out - hibernate in KDE?
[22:24] <icanhasadmin> tyvm
[22:24] <tekteen> kaminix: /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance-powermanager/guidance-power-manager.py
[22:24] <tekteen> and I do not know about sudo
[22:24] <kaminix> Thanks tekteen :)
[22:24] <tekteen> np
[22:25] <kaminix> Seem to work without sudo fyi :)
[22:25] <arcticpenguin380> is p933MHz and 512mb ram enough for kubuntu?
[22:25] <tekteen> ok
[22:25] <oloughlin75> yes arcticpenguin380
[22:25] <icanhasadmin> tek, "cp /downloads/alsa-* ." returns an error, am i missing something?
[22:25] <tekteen> yes
[22:26] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: should be cd
[22:26] <oloughlin75> i think
[22:26] <icanhasadmin> oh, yep, i'm an idiot
[22:26] <jeffy124> arcticpenguin380: i'm using an old intel celeron with 512MB of ram, and KDE runs alright. just takes a few seconds to load up things.
[22:26] <icanhasadmin> wait no, it says cp
[22:26] <jeffy124> it's a dell btw, pretty average.
[22:27] <hola> oloughlin75: problably not by it seem stange that it is not possibile to allow it works
[22:27] <hola> sameone help me to configure my webcam?
[22:27] <arcticpenguin380> i might go back to my old p3 if i sell my new computer
[22:28] <oloughlin75> !es | hola, lo siento pero su ingles es un poco dificil para entender....
[22:28] <ubotu> hola, lo siento pero su ingles es un poco dificil para entender....: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:28] <jeffy124> i want to report a bug in Kopete. where should i report the bug? bugs.kde.org or launchpad?
[22:28] <flipstar> lp
[22:28] <oloughlin75> jeffy124: whats the bug?
[22:28] <jeffy124> it crashes when i try and sign in
[22:28] <oloughlin75> for msn???
[22:28] <jeffy124> it works on 7.04 though
[22:28] <icanhasadmin> it says "cp /downloads/alsa-* ." verbatim. do i need to have something i don't have?
[22:28] <jeffy124> ya, for msn.
[22:29] <oloughlin75> jeffy124: its been fixed... did you update everything? sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?
[22:29] <jeffy124> errrrrrrr... how long would that take on a 30kb connection?
[22:29] <oloughlin75> a while
[22:29] <tekteen> lol
[22:29] <icanhasadmin> lol
[22:29] <oloughlin75> uhhh
[22:30] <icanhasadmin> day or two
[22:30] <jeffy124> the updates said >200MB worth of crap.
[22:30] <flipstar> omg
[22:30] <oloughlin75> jeffy124: open adept package manager
[22:30] <oloughlin75> click the fetch update button
[22:31] <oloughlin75> search for kopete and request update or reinstall
[22:31] <jeffy124> ok
[22:31] <oloughlin75> im not sure if it gives you an update option
[22:31] <oloughlin75> but that shouldnt take long
[22:32] <oloughlin75> ~19MB
[22:33] <jeffy124> oloughlin75: ok, so the version in the repos will be more recent than the copy on my 7.10 install cd?
[22:33] <oloughlin75> yes
[22:33] <jeffy124> cool. hopefully there's a fix :S
[22:34] <icanhasadmin> oloughlin75: "cp /downloads/alsa-* ." isn't getting me anywhere, is it referencing something i don't have?
[22:34] <oloughlin75> its where you downloaded alsa
[22:34] <oloughlin75> that tut looks old and confusing :/
[22:34] <icanhasadmin> it is lol
[22:34] <icanhasadmin> so i can't download it from the command prompt?
[22:35] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: that tut is for installing and compiling alsa from scratch
[22:35] <icanhasadmin> i see, is that neccesary?
[22:35] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: which is what i did and works
[22:35] <icanhasadmin> ok.. so where do i download the source code?
[22:35] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: is a pain to get it working with the alsa in the repos as far as i know
[22:35] <oloughlin75> www.alsa-project.org
[22:36] <oloughlin75> on the right -- you need the driver, lib, and utils
[22:36] <icanhasadmin> k
[22:36] <icanhasadmin> this is going to suck isn't it?
[22:36] <oloughlin75> its not bad
[22:36] <oloughlin75> but youll need two packages
[22:36] <crimsun_> it shouldn't if you use module-assistant with hardy's alsa-source.
[22:36] <icanhasadmin> crimsun_: elaberate a bit?
[22:37] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: your on 7.10 right?
[22:37] <icanhasadmin> yep
[22:38] <oloughlin75> the repos source is version 1.0.14 i think... latest is 1.0.16
[22:38] <crimsun_> I think I may be able to relax the versioned depends so that users can install hardy's alsa-source directly into gutsy.
[22:38] <icanhasadmin> that sounds nice, but it might as well be in russian :/
[22:38] <oloughlin75> crimsun_: thatd be easier, but does it work?
[22:39] <crimsun_> oloughlin75: that's what I'm testing
[22:39] <crimsun_> I can't make my computer go faster
[22:39] <root_____> hi. me in  a deep trouble . i am in console with irssi.  i cant login to kde. when i enter username pwd. it waits for 5 secs and again asks the username and pwd. last time some msg came when i was runing kde. "cant lauch klauncher" and something about dcop. i think i deleted a .file . may be dcop in /home folder. (but the ather accounts are not working too. help pls.......
[22:39] <oloughlin75> crimsun_: lol alright
[22:39] <hola> sameone help me to configure my webcam?
[22:40] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: otherwise, installing froms source just takes a while to compile, but its not difficult
[22:40] <icanhasadmin> i wouldn't mind but i'll probabaly need help. i don't really get it.
[22:40] <oloughlin75> let crimsun_see if the easy way works ;)
[22:40] <jeffy124> ok i got Kopete reinstalled but i still have the same problem. and also, amsn sucks really bad. does Pidgin work with KDE?
[22:41] <icanhasadmin> kk :D
[22:41]  * root_____ waits for help
[22:41] <oloughlin75> pidgin will tke you a year and a half to download jeffy124
[22:41] <oloughlin75> youll need ~40-50MB of gnome libraries
[22:41] <crimsun_> it actually works all the way back through edgy.
[22:41] <crimsun_> so - hooray, no extra work on my part.
[22:41] <jeffy124> because of the dependecies related to Gnome?
[22:41] <oloughlin75> jeffy124: yep
[22:41] <icanhasadmin> nice.. so what do i download/type and where crim?
[22:42] <karthikp> Anyone else have this problem with akregator - it can't seem to display pictures.
[22:42] <karthikp> Pics in a webpage are okay.
[22:42] <jeffy124> bugger. looks like i'll have to use amsn *shudder*. thanks for the help anyway.
[22:42] <root_____> hi. me in  a deep trouble . i am in console with irssi.  i cant login to kde. when i enter username pwd. it waits for 5 secs and again asks the username and pwd. last time some msg came when i was runing kde. "cant lauch klauncher" and something about dcop. i think i deleted a .file . may be dcop in /home folder. (but the ather accounts are not working too. help pls.......
[22:42] <karthikp> But, just a pic (a link to a jpg from one of the feeds) and it just shows unicode.
[22:42] <karthikp> Or something.
[22:42] <NickPresta> karthikp, I use akregator. Can I have the feed in question? Let me try it.
[22:42] <karthikp> (Think it's unicode...)
[22:43] <oloughlin75> root_____: whats happens when you do the startx command?
[22:43] <karthikp> Try any of the reddit stories that show up with [pic] in the subject.
[22:43] <karthikp> They often link to a jpg file.
[22:43] <icanhasadmin> crimsun_: ?
[22:43] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: sudo apt-get install module-assistant debconf-utils && wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.16-0ubuntu2_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.16-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[22:43] <root_____> oloughlin75:  iam in recoverymode . using irssi. how can i type the startx command?
[22:44] <oloughlin75> root_____: in the termal type in startx and hit enter
[22:44] <root_____> oloughlin75:  i also reconfigured xorg by dpkg...
[22:44] <flipstar> root_____: just use tty2
[22:44] <oloughlin75> root_____: thats your problem
[22:44] <root_____> oloughlin75: flipstar  i would have to quit irrsi then?
[22:44] <root_____> flipstar:  tty2 ?
[22:44] <oloughlin75> root_____: dont bother trying it
[22:45] <NickPresta> karthikp, I added the reddit feed and searched for "pic". I can open all related articles just fine.
[22:45] <oloughlin75> root_____: what was wrong with xorg in the first place for you to rebuild it?
[22:45] <karthikp> Try the one that says, "The adventures of Lord Mario [img]'
[22:45] <root_____> oloughlin75: some one ask me to. i have a problem with graphics. but any how . what now?
[22:45] <root_____> oloughlin75:  its something about dcop too i gues
[22:46] <icanhasadmin> crimsun_: thank you, will i have to reboot or log out/in?
[22:46] <root_____> flipstar:  whats tty2?
[22:46] <oloughlin75> root_____: you need to replace the xorg.conf with the backup (named xorg.conf.bunchofnumbers)
[22:46] <NickPresta> karthikp, a prompt opens and asks me if I want to open with Gwenview or save
[22:46] <karthikp> In my case, it just goes ahead and loads the image.
[22:46] <root_____> oloughlin75:  i already did. by sudo cp xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[22:46] <flipstar> root_____: tty2 is the virtual terminal number 2 .. ctrg+alt+f2
[22:46] <karthikp> And it shows a screen full of unicode like characters.
[22:47] <oloughlin75> root_____: and it still wont load?
[22:47] <karthikp> Either behavior is bad, right? In a normal browser, it should just go ahead and show the image...
[22:47] <root_____> oloughlin75:  nop
[22:47] <root_____> flipstar:  thanks!
[22:47] <oloughlin75> root_____: im not good enough in the console to help you
[22:48] <unagi> !seach
[22:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seach - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:48] <unagi> !search
[22:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:48] <unagi> how do i search for files
[22:48] <oloughlin75> unagi: !find name
[22:48] <unagi> in the command?
[22:48] <oloughlin75> oo
[22:48] <karthikp> NickPresta, is there some setting that will let akregator just go ahead and render the image as an image, rather than as a bunch of unicode?
[22:48] <flipstar> use locate unagi
[22:48] <icanhasadmin> ok I can't tell if this worked or not.. it downloaded 2 things but at the end it said Cannot write to `alsa-source_1.0.16-0ubuntu2_all.deb' (Permission denied).
[22:48] <oloughlin75> no, locate filename
[22:48] <oloughlin75> unagi: locate filename
[22:48] <flipstar> or find or whereis or which..there are many commands
[22:49] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: i can walk you through cimpiling from source
[22:49] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: pwd
[22:49] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: and you haven't even begun; you're just fetching the preliminary bits.
[22:49] <icanhasadmin> pwd huh?
[22:49] <crimsun_> yes, that's a literal command
[22:49] <crimsun_> troubleshooting 'Permission denied'
[22:50] <icanhasadmin> oh i'm in the wrong folder
[22:50] <crimsun_> right, thought as much  :=)
[22:50] <icanhasadmin> how do i get back?
[22:50] <Arwen> use "cd"
[22:50] <flipstar> cd ..
[22:50] <flipstar> cd takes you to home dir
[22:50] <karthikp> One more question about akregator. I start it up inside kontact. When I start kontact, it used to start akgregator as well. Just like it starts kmail. But that doesn't seem to happen since Gutsy.
[22:51] <NickPresta> karthikp, I don't know. I don't subscribe to any feeds that frequently show lone images. Try asking in #kde.
[22:51] <hola> sameone help me to configure my webcam?
[22:51] <root_____> oloughlin75:  i got a msg. when i typed startx. cound not init font path element /user/share/fonts/x11/cirillic
[22:51] <oloughlin75> :/
[22:51] <karthikp> NickPresta, thanks for you help! I'll head to #kde, then!
[22:52] <icanhasadmin> ok running that last one again at root folder
[22:52] <wad> Hi, folks! So I got a new computer for home, and it's running Kubuntu. It's in the kitchen right now. I'm at work, and I was just able to dive in and get to it through my home network. I want to do something geekish to impress my wife, like have it pop up a photo of myself, or something like that. I have shell access to it, she's on the GUI. What are my options?
[22:52] <oloughlin75> hola: ¿por que no preguntío en #kubuntu-es?
[22:52] <flipstar> root_____: dont know whats the exact problem but you could try dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[22:52] <hola> oloughlin75: why espanol
[22:52] <hola> oloughlin75:
[22:52] <root_____> flipstar:  ok
[22:52] <Arwen> wad, do it right now?
[22:53] <icanhasadmin> it says i need debhelper
[22:53] <Arwen> use some VNC hacks
[22:53] <wad> Okay...
[22:53] <wad> I can install a VNC client on it, is that what you're thinking?
[22:53] <Arwen> (incidentally, the only way you could do this is it were set up really insecurely)
[22:53] <wad> Or use it to take over her mouse?
[22:53] <oloughlin75> hola: no puedo entenderle su ingles
[22:53] <Arwen> wad, no, you need remote access to the existing X11 session
[22:53] <wad> !spanish
[22:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:53] <wad> !es
[22:54] <Arwen> which would mean compromising her login somehow
[22:54] <NickPresta> wad, `display -display XSERVER IMAGE` replace XSERVER and IMAGE where appropriate.
[22:54] <oloughlin75> wad: im asking him why he hasnt asked in there, as iv posted that several times
[22:54] <wad> Ah! That looks good!
[22:54] <root_____> flipstar:  conflicting actions -e control -r remove
[22:54] <hola> oloughlin75: spea italina
[22:54] <oloughlin75> !it
[22:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:54] <oloughlin75> :)
[22:54] <NickPresta> wad, or just run `eject` in a loop, sleeping a couple seconds in between :)
[22:54] <Arwen> NickPresta, that would incidentally only be possible if he were root, but...
[22:54] <wad> lol
[22:55] <wad> I've got root. :)
[22:55] <hola> oloughlin75: boh.....i can't understand you
[22:55] <Arwen> go for it
[22:55]  * Arwen 'll bet she'll close it as soon as it appears
[22:55] <flipstar> root_____: that is the error message when you try dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig ?
[22:55]  * wad decides to try the display image thingie.
[22:55] <Arwen> then she'll complain about popups :-P
[22:55] <root_____> flipstar:  yes
[22:55] <wad> heh
[22:56] <Arwen> http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206800512 <-- Thunderbird isn't dead?
[22:56] <amigo> HI ppl! why 3.5.9 not in official repositories?
[22:56] <root_____> flipstar:  fontconfig is not installed . its says...
[22:56] <NickPresta> amigo, These packages are not well supported. Security and other updates may not be applied promptly.
[22:56] <Arwen> amigo, because the developers decided not to bother
[22:56] <flipstar> uhm..you using kde on 7.10 ?
[22:56] <root_____> flipstar:  oloughlin75  how to reconfigure the whole kde?
[22:56] <root_____> flipstar:  yes
[22:57] <flipstar> root_____: dpkg-reconfigure -a
[22:57] <amigo> 3.5.9 - unofficial? oO
[22:57] <NickPresta> amigo, http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.9.php
[22:57] <root_____> flipstar:  that wil help?
[22:57] <flipstar> dont know
[22:57] <root_____> k
[22:57] <flipstar> i dont know what the exact prob is
[22:57] <amigo> NickPresta: I see it
[22:57] <oloughlin75> flipstar: hes got a bad xorg.conf and some other problems
[22:57] <NickPresta> amigo, I would assume the packages would be available in the next couple of days after testing and what ever else is completed.
[22:57] <flipstar> oh then just reconfigure the x-server..?
[22:58] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: "sudo apt-get -f install" should fix that
[22:58] <flipstar> or reinstall graphic drivers
[22:58] <NickPresta> amigo, is there a reason you need http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_8to3_5_9.php _right now_?
[22:58] <amigo> NickPresta: ok
[22:58] <oloughlin75> flipstar: thats what broke it in the first place
[22:58] <|Ange|us|> guys
[22:58] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: now, after that last command completes successfully, use: "sudo m-a clean,a-i alsa-source"
[22:58] <|Ange|us|> someone here knows how to get the QCELP codec installed on linux?
[22:58] <miladen> Ey guys is it possible to connect to my kubuntu desktop from remote like windows
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> yes
[22:59] <Arwen> |Ange|us|, what media player are you trying to use? Does it have a Linux version?
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> !rdp
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> hmm
[22:59] <oloughlin75> crimsun_: does hardy include alsaconf?
[22:59] <amigo> NickPresta: yes. I need it chlogs
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> miladen: well, yes, you can use vnc
[22:59] <flipstar> i prefer vnc
[22:59] <flipstar> !vnc | miladen
[22:59] <ubotu> miladen: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[22:59] <miladen> so i should just google it?
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> !vnc
[22:59] <miladen> !freenx
[22:59] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[22:59] <crimsun_> oloughlin75: no, and there are no plans to ever include it, since it is 1) broken, 2) superceded by udev.
[22:59] <Arwen> |Ange|us|, in case there is no Linux native version, you might want to consult <http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/codec-importing.html>
[23:00] <amigo> thx ppl. bb
[23:00] <root_____> dpkg-reconfigure -a is working. i hope it will solve all problems. oloughlin75
[23:00] <miladen> but i can't connect to it from a windows machine?
[23:00] <flipstar> just ran vnc server on the kubuntu box
[23:01] <root_____> flipstar:  saying that vnc thing to me?
[23:01] <flipstar> no sry for miladen
[23:01] <root_____> k
[23:01] <miladen> flipstar :S that cant be right?
[23:01] <jexsk> m
[23:02] <flipstar> miladen: the app is called krfb
[23:02] <flipstar> just run it and then connect to it
[23:02] <root_____> flipstar:  oloughlin75  its stuck on starting automatic crash report generation :apport .....
[23:02] <miladen> flipstar what app?
[23:02] <miladen> !krfb
[23:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krfb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:02] <flipstar> miladen: the vlc server on kubuntu
[23:02] <flipstar> !info krfb | miladen
[23:02] <ubotu> miladen: krfb (source: kdenetwork): Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 933 kB, installed size 1676 kB
[23:03] <root_____> flipstar:  oloughlin75  its stuck on starting automatic crash report generation :apport .....
[23:04] <flipstar> root_____: there should be timeouts specified..just wait a sec
[23:04] <sourcemaker> year... I have just installed kde 3.5.9.... everything is working fine :-)
[23:04] <root_____> flipstar:  nop. none
[23:04] <flipstar> or is there an error ?
[23:04] <root_____> flipstar:  no
[23:05] <oloughlin75> sourcemaker: is it just a bug fix release?
[23:05] <icanhasadmin> you still here crimsun_?
[23:05] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: briefly, yes.
[23:06] <sourcemaker> oloughlin75: I do not know... but it's working well
[23:06] <root_____> flipstar:  oloughlin75  i have a backup of a previous kubuntu install . i did it by g4l . i have the file. can i boot by live cd and past the home dir files from that backup file to the home folder. will that do any good?
[23:06] <icanhasadmin> ok, sorry i had to go find my ubuntu cd, said it needed it
[23:06] <oloughlin75> root_____: you could try it
[23:06] <root_____> oloughlin75:  how to open that backup file?
[23:06] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: remove the CD from your repos
[23:06] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: for debhelper?  You don't need your cd per se; it's likely due to your apt-cd line(s) being active in sources.list(5).
[23:06] <wad> NickPresta, hmm, I'm learning stuff. What do I put for XSERVER? localhost doesn't work...
[23:07] <icanhasadmin> how?
[23:07] <wad> I'm trying it on my laptop first, to see how it works.
[23:07] <root_____> flipstar:  still stuck
[23:07] <icanhasadmin> sorry i obviously had no idea what i'm doing, heh.
[23:07] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: you can open adept and go to third part sources and remove the CD
[23:07] <NickPresta> wad, put the DISPLAY. (echo $DISPLAY to see your current display. Something like :0)
[23:07] <oloughlin75> go to manage repos then remove it
[23:07] <wad> ah!
[23:07]  * wad tries it
[23:07] <icanhasadmin> open adept.. like it's a launchable application somewhere?
[23:08] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: under system
[23:08] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: Adept Manager
[23:08] <icanhasadmin> gotcha
[23:08] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: then click manager repositories, then click the third party tab, and remove the CD
[23:08] <icanhasadmin> er, i have to run it as admin
[23:09] <unagi_> anyone here know anythign about the kopete msn crash?
[23:09] <root_____> can any one tell how to reconfigure KDE?
[23:09] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: ya
[23:09] <wad> root_____, click the K button, go to system settings.
[23:10] <icanhasadmin> how exactly... i'm loggin in as admin i thought
[23:10] <root_____> wad:  i cant log in kde. iam talking from console . by irssi. deep trouble.
[23:10] <unagi_> root_____: what did you do
[23:10] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: just open adept and itll ask you for the password
[23:10] <icanhasadmin> it didn't
[23:11] <root_____> unagi_:  may be xorg or may be some fontconfig or dcop problem
[23:11] <icanhasadmin> just told me i had to be admin
[23:11] <flipstar> how did you start it icanhasadmin ?
[23:11] <icanhasadmin> applications -> system tools -> adept
[23:11] <root_____> unagi_:  wad what should i do. i think reconfigureing all kde would doo good?
[23:11] <SlimeyPete> icanhasadmin: try pressing alt-f2 then typing "kdesudo adept"
[23:11] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: it alt + f2 and type in "kdesu adept_manager" without the quotes and hit enter
[23:11] <SlimeyPete> see if that works
[23:12] <oloughlin75> need adept_manager
[23:12] <flipstar> icanhasadmin: hm it should be in menu like that
[23:12] <SlimeyPete> also need kdesudo I think.
[23:12] <flipstar> kdesu is right
[23:12] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: it alt + f2 and type in "kdesu adept_manager" without the quotes and hit enter
[23:12] <icanhasadmin> bingo
[23:12] <icanhasadmin> ok
[23:13] <oloughlin75> manage repositories
[23:13] <flipstar> hm kdesu is same as kdesudo
[23:13] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: the adept menu
[23:14] <icanhasadmin> cdrom isn't in there
[23:14] <icanhasadmin> under third party
[23:14] <oloughlin75> as one of the options? itll have CD somewhere in the name
[23:15] <icanhasadmin> no just a gusty partner url
[23:15] <icanhasadmin> canonical.com or something
[23:15] <oloughlin75> weird
[23:15] <oloughlin75> when was it asking for the cd?
[23:15] <hola> sameone help me to configure my webcam?
[23:15] <icanhasadmin> uhm, i was running,... something.. apt-get install -f?
[23:16] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: i have no idea what you were doing lol
[23:16] <icanhasadmin> lol
[23:17] <icanhasadmin> yeah
[23:17] <icanhasadmin> apt-get -f install
[23:17] <oloughlin75> fix broken packages
[23:17] <icanhasadmin> it said i needed debhelper
[23:17] <oloughlin75> idk why though
[23:17] <icanhasadmin> so crim told me to apt-get -f install
[23:18] <Arwen> actually, "apt-get -f" just bypasses integrity checks
[23:18] <icanhasadmin> lol, that sounds very counter productive
[23:18] <icanhasadmin> is it possible i just don't have debhelper? :P
[23:18] <crimsun_> Arwen: no.
[23:18] <Arwen> nah, if your setups is broken, it will have failed integrity checks
[23:18] <Arwen> hence the need to use it
[23:18] <crimsun_> -f == --fix-broken
[23:18] <icanhasadmin> oooohhh! he told you :P kidding!
[23:18] <Arwen> crimsun_, "man apt-get" --> -f  Attempt to continue if the integrity check fails
[23:19] <oloughlin75> i dont see it Arwen
[23:19]  * icanhasadmin whistles
[23:19] <icanhasadmin> so.. i still need debhelper...
[23:19] <crimsun_> Arwen: no, -f does not bypass any sort of "integrity checks".
[23:19] <Arwen> it doesn't really matter either way, but...
[23:19] <oloughlin75> Arwen: your talking about -m
[23:19] <Arwen> crimsun_, type "apt-get" without options.
[23:19] <Arwen> Read.
[23:20]  * crimsun_ chuckles
[23:20] <Arwen> -m is "Attempt to continue if archives are unlocatable"
[23:20] <jerware> are there dj programs where i can make techno music ?
[23:20] <crimsun_> I'll certainly file a bug to fix that description
[23:20] <crimsun_> but as someone who digs into apt's guts, it's not "integrity checks" that's at issue there.
[23:21] <icanhasadmin> HI. HOW ARE YOU.
[23:21] <icanhasadmin> Why does apt-get ask me for a cd?
[23:21] <LjL> i'm very uppercase
[23:21] <RogueJediX> jerware: A couple, yes. You might want to check out Ubuntu Studio
[23:21] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, it's in your sources list
[23:21] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: check /etc/apt/sources.list.  See a cdrom line?
[23:21] <icanhasadmin> only 2/3 of you it would seem
[23:21] <LjL> icanhasadmin: because it has been instructed to search for it. open your Software Sources and change that, if you want.
[23:21] <LjL> !sources
[23:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[23:22] <LjL> !repos
[23:22] <LjL> pff
[23:22] <icanhasadmin> nope
[23:23] <icanhasadmin> it's not in my sources.list
[23:23] <LjL> !no repos-#kubuntu is <reply> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:23] <unagi> my lord kopete is the worst program ever written
[23:23] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[23:23] <oloughlin75> unagi: yep :)
[23:23] <LjL> icanhasadmin: pastebin it please
[23:23] <flipstar> if you just removed it you have to do an update first icanhasadmin
[23:23] <icanhasadmin> pastebin it.. how and where?
[23:23] <oloughlin75> !pastebin
[23:23] <icanhasadmin> I didn't remove it, it was never there
[23:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:23] <icanhasadmin> k
[23:23] <unagi> oloughlin75: why must they tease me with the thought that i might be able to use my webcam
[23:24] <unagi> !webcam
[23:24] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[23:24] <bomber> !tvcard
[23:24] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[23:24] <icanhasadmin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56677/
[23:24] <icanhasadmin> OH
[23:25] <icanhasadmin> ITS THE FIRST LINE
[23:25] <LjL> indeed.
[23:25] <icanhasadmin> THE ONE THAT SAYS CDROM
[23:25] <icanhasadmin> please hit me
[23:25] <LjL> !caps
[23:25] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:25] <flipstar> haha
[23:25]  * oloughlin75 smacks icanhasadmin
[23:25] <icanhasadmin> sorry, i was using the caps to make fun of myself, i'll refrain in the future
[23:26] <unagi> bomber: good luck my man
[23:28] <icanhasadmin> o
[23:28] <icanhasadmin> k
[23:28] <icanhasadmin> i deleted that line
[23:28] <icanhasadmin> runing apt-get now
[23:29] <oloughlin75> ic]
[23:29] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: got to run apt-get update
[23:29] <unagi> how do i figure out where in /dev my webcam is
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> well it worked, i'm running sudo apt-get install module-assistant debconf-utils && wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.16-0ubuntu2_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.16-0ubuntu2_all.deb now
[23:30] <icanhasadmin> ok that worked too
[23:30] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: now, "sudo m-a clean,a-i alsa-source"
[23:30] <oloughlin75> woah! hardy has the latest alsa!
[23:30] <icanhasadmin> ok.. now i'm suppose to sudo m-a clean,a-i alsa-source
[23:30] <icanhasadmin> yeah ok
[23:30] <crimsun_> of course.
[23:30] <icanhasadmin> anyhting after this finishes?
[23:31] <crimsun_> (it's actually newer than 1.0.16, but that's slightly off-topic.)
[23:32] <crimsun_> icanhasadmin: well, yes.  You'll need to log out of the GUI environment, log into a tty (text-only), and use "sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload", then log back into the GUI env.
[23:32] <unagi> why cant kubuntu do webcams....
[23:32] <miladen> what do i do with a .daa file? what tool do i use?
[23:32] <icanhasadmin> gotcha
[23:32] <icanhasadmin> er, i can select tty in the options after i log out right?
[23:32] <oloughlin75> miladen: i think thats for poweriso (on windows)
[23:33] <miladen> oloughlin75 linux can open it too, is there a linux mount tool?
[23:33] <oloughlin75> miladen: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-open-daa-direct-access-archive-files-under-linux-or-unix-oses/
[23:33] <blizzzek> gn8
[23:34] <oloughlin75> dont know if anything will mount it though
[23:34] <miladen> whats it called when i install a .deb file? rpkg then what?
[23:39] <icanhasadmin> ok, i'm logging off x-window to force-reload
[23:39] <icanhasadmin> wish me.. uh.. that this works :P thanks again, i'll be back
[23:39] <oloughlin75> gl
[23:41] <miladen> what do i do with a .daa file? what tool do i use? acetoneISO does not work
[23:41] <miladen> with .daa files
[23:42] <Arwen> miladen, boot Windows and save it in a more sane format
[23:43] <miladen> >Arwen i dont have windows
[23:43] <Arwen> then you're kind of SOL (stuck on a lifeboat) aren't you?
[23:43] <niall> what's a daa?
[23:43] <niall> I've never even heard of that
[23:43] <Arwen> or you can read the link posted by oloughlin75
[23:43] <miladen> Arwen arent you helpfull :D
[23:43] <miladen> helpful*
[23:45] <niall> it's a proprietary file format used by PowerISO? You should probably get PowerISO then ;o
[23:46] <niall> it even has a linux version
[23:46] <niall> http://www.poweriso.com/poweriso-1.2.tar.gz