[00:23] <mtaylor> kiko: is that pre-depends bug in the PPAs fixed? 
[00:25] <kiko> mtaylor, I think after wednesday
[00:30] <mtaylor> kiko: SWEET
[00:30] <mtaylor> kiko: will packages need to be rebuild after wednesday to take advantage of the fix? 
[00:30] <kiko> mtaylor, yes, they will I believe
[00:30] <kiko> should be a push of a button
[00:30] <mtaylor> sure. 
[00:30] <mtaylor> thanks
[00:31] <mtaylor> kiko: you make my life happy :)
[00:49] <cprov-out> mtaylor: it was already fixed in the last milestone, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/165230
[00:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 165230 in soyuz "PPA generates an endlessly upgrading package" [Critical,Fix released]  - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[00:49] <mtaylor> cprov-out: does that mean it's already released? 
[00:50] <cprov-out> mtaylor: yes
[00:50] <mtaylor> cprov-out: you make me even happier
[00:50] <mtaylor> cprov-out: thanks!
[00:50] <cprov-out> mtaylor: you are welcome.
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #193105 in rosetta "Translations page for non-Translations-using project says "set the flag"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193105
[01:19] <cody-somerville> Can someone look at OOPS-780EB18  ?
[01:23] <kiko-zzz> cody-somerville, it's a 404.
[01:23] <kiko-zzz> cody-somerville, how did you get to that URL?
[01:23] <cody-somerville> kiko-zzz, Why does that page not exist? The package was uploaded days ago
[01:23] <cody-somerville> kiko-zzz, on my assigned package page
[01:24] <kiko-zzz> cody-somerville, was it uploaded to your PPA?
[01:24] <cody-somerville> No
[01:24] <cody-somerville> Ubuntu
[01:24] <kiko-zzz> and it's been published to ubuntu?!
[01:25] <cody-somerville> Well, I would assume
[01:25] <cody-somerville> Is it possible that an archive admin hasn't approved it yet?
[01:25] <kiko-zzz> IOW, it's in the archive?
[01:25] <kiko-zzz> that's more likely
[01:25] <cody-somerville> What is the link for the NEW queue?
[01:26] <Fujitsu> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[01:26] <kiko-zzz> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=svn
[01:30] <mtaylor> kiko-zzz: if I get this: 
[01:30] <mtaylor> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[01:30] <mtaylor> kiko-zzz: but I've deleted the package from the PPA that held that file...
[01:30] <mtaylor> do I just need to wait for the files to actually get deleted? 
[01:31] <mtaylor> or am I just out of my head? 
[01:32] <kiko-zzz> you need to wait, I believe
[01:33] <mtaylor> kiko-zzz: ok
[01:33]  * mtaylor attempts to be patient... 
[01:33] <mtaylor> :)
[01:33] <mtaylor> thanks
[02:08] <Seq> Can anybody give me a hand? I've got some kernel packages I've uploaded to two PPAs and am getting a "Failed to Upload" error
[02:19] <jamesh> Seq: no guarantee that I can help, but could you paste the output of dput to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give the resulting URL?
[02:22] <Fujitsu> jamesh: It's not that kind of error. The binaries fail to upload, so it's a Soyuz bug. There's a bug on it.
[02:22] <jamesh> Seq: it would seem that Fujitsu can point you at the problem :)
[02:22] <Fujitsu> jamesh: Seq filed the bug, I believe.
[02:23] <jamesh> ah.
[02:28] <jamesh> bug 192713
[02:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192713 in soyuz "PPA packages fail to upload but build successfully" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192713
[02:29] <jamesh> looks like either (1) the control file from linux-libc-dev_2.6.24-8.13~mactel1_amd64.deb could not be extracted or (2) it could not be parsed
[02:30] <Fujitsu> I find it interesting that the errors reference different binaryes.
[02:30] <Fujitsu> *binaries
[02:32] <jamesh> something screwed up
[02:34] <Fujitsu> sbuild can see the control files in those binaries fine, so Soyuz screwed up.
[02:35] <jamesh> yep
[04:48] <Seq> Fujitsu and jamesh: sorry I disappeared earlier, I'm on call with work.
[04:49] <Seq> I'm adding a note that the 2.6.22 kernel that is failing on the ~mactel-support ppa had previously uploaded successfully on the ~chrisirwin ppa
[04:51] <Seq> Also, the ~chrisirwin ppa indicates I'm using 1.4GB, though adding up stuff listed gives a sum that is greatly less than that
[06:06] <Liono_> hi there. need to report a drawback/bad feature/bug
[06:12] <jamesh> go for it
[06:12] <jamesh> (although you might also want to file a bug report)
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #193171 in rosetta "Last-Translator: email@address.com is vulnerable to spam harvesters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193171
[09:16] <vinay__> hi
[09:17] <vinay__> anyone,there
[09:39] <thumper> vinay__: yes
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #193220 in launchpad "Timeouts declining team invitation" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193220
[11:20] <LarstiQ> kiko-zzz: sorry, dropped off there
[11:32] <geser> cprov-out: can you please resurrect icatalan, ispanish, ilithuanian and idutch from the depths of LP? Thanks.
[11:45] <LarstiQ> kiko-zzz: will you?
[14:21] <kiko> LarstiQ, huh?
[14:21] <LarstiQ> kiko: be in London in two weeks
[14:22] <kiko> I will
[14:23] <LarstiQ> kiko: ok. You just made me mail Claire et al, so I hope to see you there.
[14:24] <kiko> LarstiQ, hah, it'll be fun
[14:45] <ubotu> New bug: #193288 in launchpad "Accepting mailing-list-beta-testers to coriander spammed lists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193288
[14:48] <kiko> that's a bug in flacoste's finger
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #193305 in launchpad "Buglet in +add-my-teams checkbox display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193305
[15:25] <ubotu> New bug: #193311 in launchpad "+add-my-teams should not show the team you're adding to" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193311
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #193316 in launchpad "verifyDebTimeStamp bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193316
[15:49] <exarkun> Can someone help me understand what https://launchpad.net/pyopenssl/ means?
[15:49] <exarkun> It looks like a project with no owner, contributors, or content on launchpad.
[15:49] <exarkun> What does that mean for someone who is interested in contributing to it?
[15:49] <LarstiQ> exarkun: looks like at least mirroring cvs to bzr
[15:50] <LarstiQ> exarkun: can you 'bzr get lp:pyopenssl'?
[15:50] <LarstiQ> ah no, the overview says it failed 
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #193320 in malone ""Latest bugs touched" should show who touched the bug not who reported it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193320
[15:58] <jtv> Is anyone here using Internet Explorer 7 and free for 2 minutes to test something?
[15:59] <exarkun> LarstiQ: Any hints for the rest? :)
[16:00] <LarstiQ> exarkun: moonquelle seems to have been active at least?
[16:00]  * LarstiQ has a look at that sepc
[16:00] <exarkun> LarstiQ: Is there a way to see what moonquelle did?  I see the name, but I don't know what the activity was.  It _looks_ like moonquelle created a content-free specification and nothing else, but maybe I missed something.
[16:01] <LarstiQ> exarkun: the karma of moonquelle shows the spec indeed
[16:01] <LarstiQ> exarkun: so far looks like a dud to me
[16:02] <exarkun> Should I just start pushing branches to it?  (Is that even something I'm allowed to do?)
[16:02] <LarstiQ> exarkun: I suppose that if you get stuck contributing to it, you can ask the registry owners to sign over ownership
[16:02] <LarstiQ> exarkun: that is what I would try, yes
[16:04] <kiko> exarkun!!!
[16:04] <exarkun> Hi kiko 
[16:04] <kiko> how's it going man
[16:05] <exarkun> Things are good, in general.  :)  How about you?
[16:08] <kiko> they are busy
[16:08] <kiko> lots of typing
[16:08] <kiko> and phone calls
[16:08] <kiko> but it's working!
[16:10] <exarkun> excellent :)
[16:11] <exarkun> apparently I am taking over pyopenssl development in my copious spare time :/
[16:13] <exarkun> huh okay I guess that did something, my branch shows up on the page now at least :)
[16:13] <exarkun> LarstiQ: Thanks
[16:14] <LarstiQ> exarkun: for my rambling? np dude :)
[16:14] <LarstiQ> exarkun: I don't suppose you can help me find a not to expensive flight from .nl to .fi? ;)
[16:15] <exarkun> humm
[16:15] <exarkun> you probably haven't tried beta.itasoftware.com yet
[16:15] <exarkun> but I dunno if that helps a lot for european flights
[16:15] <exarkun> (or if it even works for them)
[16:15]  * LarstiQ tries it anyway
[16:15] <LarstiQ> skyscanner.net wasn't much of a help
[16:18] <LarstiQ> exarkun: it actually works and looks helpful, let's see if I can find a way to display the amount in euros
[16:23] <kiko> exarkun, pyopenssl eh?
[16:25] <exarkun> I figure it has rested long enough
[16:25] <exarkun> (and I need a function it doesn't expose :/)
[16:25] <ubotu> New bug: #193332 in launchpad "Sources.list entries don't take deletions into account" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193332
[17:43] <forsaken> if i delete a file from my bzr tree and commit it to launchpad, will it still show the older versions of that file in the old rev's?
[17:45] <ubotu> New bug: #193367 in launchpad "There is not enough space for the label 'Mailing list archive:' and the URL" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193367
[17:57] <kiko> forsaken, of course. 
[17:57] <forsaken> kiko, is there a way to delete it from all of the revisions?
[17:58] <forsaken> i accidently commited a file w/ authentication info
[17:58] <kiko> forsaken, you need to overwrite the whole branch from scratch
[17:59] <forsaken> hrmph, okay
[17:59] <kiko> bzr push --overwrite
[17:59] <forsaken> is there a defined way for handling files w/ auth info...I guess just not adding them to the repo :)
[17:59] <kiko> with a branch that never had the file committed.
[17:59] <kiko> right.
[17:59] <kiko> .bzrignore
[17:59] <forsaken> okay
[18:00] <forsaken> i'll try to avoid this in the future
[18:00] <forsaken> luckily i only have like 10 revisions, and didn't write very good commit messages hehe
[19:13] <geser> cprov: can you please resurrect icatalan, ispanish, ilithuanian and idutch from the depths of LP? Thanks.
[19:14] <cprov> geser: no, It requires archive-admin approval.
[19:20] <kiko> geser, in the ubuntu archive? you need to talk to colin or something in #ubuntu-devel
[19:25] <ubotu> New bug: #193403 in launchpad "derivative distro URL update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193403
[19:36] <geser> cprov: will talk to one of the archive admins tomorrow, thanks anyways.
[19:37] <cprov> geser: np, thanks for keeping track of those.
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #193407 in launchpad "Librarian has a memory leak" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193407
[19:52] <ubotu> New bug: #193409 in malone "Email interface oops reporting should not ignore Unauthorized errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193409
[19:58] <vonck7> hi, is there any effort on making the translations.launchpad.net servers more responsive? I was getting timeouts 3 months ago and hoped it would be fixed by now.
[19:59] <andresj> hello. I accidentally linked the neverball package in hardy to neverball/trunk, which is not right. How can I undo this?
[20:08] <YokoZar> Are there plans to make it possible to allow PPA upload rights to only a subset of a team?  Or should a new team be formed for that?
[20:16] <cprov> YokoZar: no plans, for now you have to create a subteam
[20:17] <YokoZar> cprov: Is a subteam just a separate team or is there a way to define it specifically?
[20:18] <cprov> YokoZar: a separate team. You can make the sub-team member of the master team if you want, but it won't affect the PPA workflow
[20:19] <YokoZar> cprov: thanks
[20:19] <cprov> YokoZar: neither expose the sub-team PPA in the master team page (which I suspect it what you would like to do)
[20:20] <YokoZar> cprov: Yeah.  The use case here is the Ubuntu Wine team.  We have like 60 members who joined to help test the best Wine in Hardy, but only two of us should be doing actual uploads.
[20:22] <cprov> YokoZar: for now you can add a link in the team description pointing to the sub-team PPA. it's a hack but will produce the expected effect.
[20:23] <cprov> YokoZar: err, you don't have to accept my *ugly* suggestion, I'm actually embarrassed to say such thing  in public. :(
[20:24] <YokoZar> heh
[20:32] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[21:30] <ubotu> New bug: #193469 in launchpad "Unlink (Ubuntu) package from series" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193469
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #193425 in launchpad "RuntimeError when making two teams without contact addresses members of one another" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193425
[22:12] <mtaylor> kiko: is it possible for me to rsync a ppa over ssh or sftp? 
[22:13] <mtaylor> kiko: if I wanted to mirror it
[22:15] <kiko> mtaylor, I think debmirror does that perfectly
[22:15] <mtaylor> kiko: does debmirror work on non-debian boxes? 
[22:16]  * mtaylor is looking
[22:17] <mtaylor> kiko: yes. it appears that it does
[22:18] <kiko> yep
[22:18] <poolie> good morning launchpadders
[22:24] <kiko> morning poolie 
[22:24] <kiko> mtaylor, debmirror is da bomb
[22:36] <ubotu> New bug: #193495 in launchpad "Non-subscribed team members should be allowed to post to mailing list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193495
[22:42] <mtaylor> kiko: so, not trying to bug you here... I'm actually just curious... 
[22:42] <mtaylor> kiko: what's the problem with building for debian that makes it hard? 
[22:43] <kiko> mtaylor, twofold. first we need a debian import and publishing cycle, which takes time and energy (to fix import bugs) and machines.
[22:43] <kiko> second, we need chroots for debian, and these chroots need to be managed.
[22:44] <mtaylor> ah
[22:44] <mtaylor> makes sense
[22:45] <mtaylor> kiko: since it seems that all I do is complain... everything is working really well....
[22:47] <kiko> mtaylor, hey, you can donate hardware to run the debian import. :)
[22:48] <mtaylor> kiko: hehehe. now if only I _had_ hardware to donate
[22:48] <mtaylor> doesn't mark have like 4 billion $? 
[22:50] <kiko> mtaylor, okay, you can donate some money then.
[22:51] <ubotu> New bug: #193505 in malone "Retargeting bug to project that uses LP should change Unknown->Undecided" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193505
[22:51] <Fujitsu> Dupe.
[22:51] <Fujitsu> I think.
[22:57] <kiko> really? it's a pretty relevant bug
[22:58] <Fujitsu> It's not actually a dupe, although someone marked it as such... there are so many bugs like that that are all slightly different :(
[23:09] <Ng> is it possible to get at my translations as a bzr branch?
[23:20]  * Ng waiting for an email link to a tarball, but pulling a branch would be much easier :)
[23:35] <bradallen> Hello, I have had trouble finding an answer on how to allow others to contribute to a branch I've started
[23:36] <bradallen> I have added my co-worker as a subscriber
[23:36] <bradallen> but it is not clear that he will have access to contribute to the branch
[23:37] <bradallen> I didn't see this covered in the FAQ
[23:37] <Fujitsu> bradallen: You have to transfer the branch to a team of which both of you are members.
[23:48] <bradallen> ok, so I need to create a team
[23:49] <bradallen> I see now the URL to register a team
[23:54] <kiko> bradallen, let me know if you are still stuck