[00:00] Oh.. Whats that? [00:00] I am dealing with the patent issues around libdvdcss and liblame [00:00] Oooo Lovely.. [00:00] yeah [00:01] I think I have a soultion but its going to take quite allot of dev work [00:01] You might need to throw in AAC as it isn't just NZ. Norway is going that way, and the UK might be following when they do HD on terrestrial [00:01] sigh [00:01] Hmmm Gotta go for 5... [00:01] ok [00:06] OpenMedia, AFAIK, there's a twiddle in the database to enable loop filter skipping, which makes h264 playback rather less taxing on the ol' cpu [00:09] Using Hardy pkg... Setting Myth up and ran updates/upgrades this afternoon. Now I cannot get Recordings, Videos, or watch live TV. [00:10] MythbuntuGuest23, do you have distinct back & frontends? [00:10] getting a lot of crashes. [00:11] Well, I think it may be related to Update Manager stalling... Fails to install python.apt, mythbuntu-control-centre, update-manager, update-manager-core [00:12] Not sure what you mean by distinct back and front; Running both front/back from 1 PC. [00:14] directhex Thanks for that. [00:15] foxbuntu: gotta drop off for a reboot. [00:15] np [00:15] Any thoughts as to how to get LIVE TV and Recordings to work? Also, would like to know why Python.apt is not installing. [00:18] MythbuntuGuest23, open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install" [00:20] Locked:Unable to lock the download directory [00:20] close any other package managers you have running [00:22] OK. errors /user/bin/pycentral, line 1587, 1593, 1015, ect.... [00:22] Errors were encountered while processing [00:23] paste the exact errors yo pastebin.ubuntu.com [00:23] Working on a differenct machine. [00:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-apt/+bug/193076 ? [00:26] Going to add to this... Hold a sec, logging in. [00:28] 193068 [00:34] Cannot get this to work... Tried an update with synaptic Package Manager.. errors out. [00:35] Im brand new to ubuntu and truly am an amature at this... [00:35] Found a fix at 192992, but dont know how to impliment it. [00:49] MythbuntuGuest23, its a problem with python-central [00:49] looks like someone broke it [00:51] heya superm1 how goes it today [00:51] npurciful, alright [00:51] those builds worked for i386 [00:51] amd64 i have no idea why that failed : [00:51] see you finally got the i386 to build [00:51] yeah [00:53] yeah, the new build is awesome, seeing lot of polishing [00:56] npurciful, any ideas on the failed amd64 build though? [00:56] i'm not really sure what to do to fix it. [00:56] seems like something not pretty [00:56] i was lookin at the log [00:57] and i dont have an amd64 anymore that I could chroot into to debug that sort of thing unfort [00:59] yeah, it looks like aacdec but i dont know [01:00] yeah well i've reverted the patch that is normally applied for 7.10 builds [01:00] er normally for 8.04 builds that is [01:00] and that made the i386 go [01:00] but that amd64, i really dunno [01:01] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/133097 [01:01] looks like your not the omly one [01:02] err [01:02] oops well it has happend before [01:14] howiddly do === MythbuntuGuest71 is now known as sevlor [01:14] hello again === MythbuntuGuest13 is now known as sevlor [01:15] anyone have any issues with mythdvd playing too fast? [01:24] ok, nevermind, i am having issues with everything playing back way too fast [01:24] superm1 - you around? [01:28] yeah [01:43] ah playin with virtualbox, installing myth and adding 2TB storage mount [01:43] hmm for some reason my machine has developed the double clock spee problem [01:44] crap my pizza is burnt === Egghead is now known as egghead3 [01:48] * rogue780 hates pointers in c++ === griffithsdj is now known as Ghost1227 [01:49] i'm having issues with my pvr-150, anyone got a sec to help me out? [01:50] is there a better player then the internal one for playing dvd files in iso format? [01:50] egghead3: i use vlc personally [01:51] VLC rulez [01:51] works well for iso's? [01:51] works great for everything [01:51] :) cool [01:51] ill google it [01:51] thanks [01:52] egghead3: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ [01:52] videolan.org [01:52] Ghost1227, FTW! [01:52] lol [01:52] thnaks all [01:52] any time [01:53] now if only i could find someone who has a prv-150... [01:54] havent got one but whats the issue [01:54] i have a pvr-150 that works well, but only up to channel 50... after 50 it just gives static [01:55] cable or antenna [01:55] cable [01:55] has it ever worked [01:56] not on this setup [01:56] did you set the channel frequency to cable-hru (not plain cable)? [01:57] above 50 maybe scramble need a convertbox [01:57] szakulec: no, where is that option? [01:59] ghost i have a pvr-150, it working on a dishnet box [02:00] szakulec: i found it [02:00] okay [02:00] testing that now [02:01] good lord it takes forever write inode tables for 2TB [02:09] lol [02:09] if it makes you feel any better, i'm compiling my kernel right now... i'd forgotten how long that takes [02:14] if you plan to do big compiles on a regular basis, you'll want ccache [02:16] lol [02:18] not the first time i've done this [02:20] although it is the first time i've done something this in depth in almost a year... building from the ground up [02:22] lol, 1.9 TB free, i am retarted just wanted to see what it would be like so i made a 2TB virtual drive image [02:23] it took like 40min to write the inode tables [02:24] how much actual space does it take up? [02:24] 9mb [02:24] not bad [02:24] well then just make a 500TB Virtual drive :) [02:24] or go for 1PB [02:26] heh, would but i think 2gb is the max [02:26] or 2TB [02:27] it fun to have the thing you cant afford [02:27] lol [02:27] based on what you said, to do a 1 PB image would take 333 hours or so [02:27] hehe [02:28] give or take a day or two [02:29] lol [02:31] yeah the max is 2TB :( [02:38] anyone use the other video devices on the pvr-250 (video24 or video32)? === Ghost1227 is now known as Ghost-afk === Ghost-afk is now known as Ghost1227 [02:52] superml, you there? [02:55] I am on the Hardy pkg... Is the Feisty package mostly bug free.. Thinking of switching as I have been having too many problems. [02:56] pkg of what? [02:57] I am on 8.04 alpha 2... It is crashing often and now I cannot get TV. Unsure if it is related to the latest bug or if I will have continued problems. Thinking of switching to 7.04 [02:58] Wondering if it is stable and bug free... Also would like to know if it has the same version of MythTV [02:59] well mythbuntu doesn't have a 7.04, only a 7.10 [03:00] ur right... Is it stable? and does it have the same MythTV version? [03:00] it uses .20.2 [03:00] although you can use .21 if you like [03:01] And how would I be able to get .21? [03:01] http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds [03:01] Does .21 have issues? or is it Ubuntu that is giving me the headache? [03:02] could be both, they are both technically unstable, however, i'd lean toward it being hardy, as it is more unstable [03:04] OK, thanks... I think I am going to do a clean install of 7.1. When Hardy and 2.1 are stable, I will be able to upgrade to them w/o having to run a fresh install? [03:08] yes [03:09] Great, thanks for the assistance tgm4883 [03:11] OK, now I am having problems w/ 7.1 install... Getting Debootstrap warning. Failure wile configuring base packages. Unable to continue. === slestak is now known as slestak|away [03:53] Setting partitions; where do movies, recordings, ect go... Need to know if I could use /home, or /media... [03:55] Sorry, unfamiliar w/ the storage structure. Migrated from MythDora. [04:02] by default they are in /var/lib/ [04:03] there are videos dirs there [04:03] music [04:03] recordings etc [04:03] you can put them wherever you want though to change things [04:51] j [04:53] crap i ran out of prerecorded stuff to watch [04:54] thanks superml. I just loaded mythbuntu 7.10; ran the pkg update.. Now want to do apt-get upgrade/update. Getting error Could not open lock file (permission denied) Unable to lock the administration directory. are you root? [04:54] I do not have anything open. [04:54] you run sudo apt-get update [04:54] do it with sudo [04:54] or gksudo [04:54] damn writers union... Ive been having issues with running out of shows. [04:54] or update-manager [04:55] thanks... user error. [04:55] no kidding MythbuntuGuest23 at least there back now [04:56] Is update-manager the same as apt-get update? [04:57] For now right... Seems to me, if I can recall correctly, the baseball leagues striked more than once (wanted more money). [04:57] update-manager is a gui for apt [04:57] nice to know [04:58] and they have million dollar contract, gofigure [04:58] right... Think the set designers, camera men, ect are going to get more money with this strike or will they be next? [04:59] * npurciful notes: goes out of his way to use commandline! [04:59] uh if the cameramen left we would be screwed [05:00] How did I install the nvidia driver last night superml. [05:01] npurciful... I wonder if the writers were working when they went on strike, you know, still writing... If they took a vacation I recon it will be a while until heroes and other kicka** shows are on. [05:02] Not seeing Nvidia logo at boot or in the System> folder. [05:02] yeah, if i where a writer i would be working on material [05:03] lets hope right... getting a bit sick of the reality shows. [05:03] And summer is nearing. [05:03] on of my favorites show got canceled case of the strike. K*ville [05:03] it was on fox, what more did you expect? [05:03] true [05:04] * rhpot1991 is still bitter over fox axing arrested development [05:04] and futurama [05:04] it was just 2 show away from full season [05:04] Really, never knew. There were SOOO many pilots this year I had to really pick and choose what to watch. Now there is nothing to watch. Go figure right. [05:04] yeah good shows too [05:05] Do you know the command to load the "Nvidia" software, or should I just locate in Package Manager. [05:05] MythbuntuGuest23, nvidia-settings [05:06] kville was cost fox alot of money, they said if the strike would of been less than couple week that they would of finished it [05:06] costing [05:06] the strike was escape goat [05:07] Makes sence... HBO has cancelled a some good shows as a result of money; Crnival and Deadwood really were great! [05:08] yeah, i wasnt even thinking about premium channel just got HD OTA [05:09] Now my resolution on TV is off... set to auto! This happened to me last night. Rebooted, nothing. Today I fired it up and it was working. unsure what I, if anything, did. [05:09] You just setup HD? not sure what OTA is [05:10] Over the Air [05:10] Antenna [05:11] On, nice... Was reading about a box, think it is HD Homerun; has 2 tuners for $140 at Newegg... Pretty sweet deal, thinking about it. What card(s) did you choose. [05:11] pchdtv 5500 [05:12] it run 129$ think back it is over priced [05:12] I am ordering a HDHR [05:12] pricy little guy... But had the pinguin soo it MUST be good. [05:14] I have a Mozart Sx box... Think the next one (media room) will be the Mozart TX... Just having wet dreams at night thinking about it. [05:15] http://thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/Mozarttx/ve1000_index.asp [05:16] The feedback Ive read about it is very posotive... Pricing is not too bad either. [05:16] >>>HDHR [05:17] yeah [05:17] Now Im ready to have fun... Setting up the MediaMVP [05:17] Damb b**** to set. [05:18] MythbuntuGuest23, there is a wiki page on that [05:18] look on help.ubuntu.com [05:18] There is a plethera of knowledge out there... each does it a bit different [05:20] I started on this today, but had to load 7.10... Used a doc for the H2... Could not find one for H3 which is what I use. [05:20] MythbuntuGuest23: that case is crazy [05:20] It is SOOOO sweat (think of the cooling and quiteness) 2 Motherboards... ect... Search it on youtube. There are some wicked setups. [05:21] superm1: i just read that hdhomerun sends it logs to silicon dust can you verify this? [05:21] MythbuntuGuest23, well that was written in a sense of coming from mythbuntu [05:21] MythbuntuGuest23, and a few different situations that you can be in it covers afaik [05:21] npurciful, where did you read that? [05:21] It was... Just not the correct model I am wanting to use; superml [05:22] newegg [05:22] npurciful, i'd look somewhere more reputable first regarding that.... [05:22] npurciful, i've never heard such things [05:23] newegg sells hd homeruns??? [05:23] sounded wrong to me but i thought i might ask [05:23] yeah [05:23] Using MediaMVP Frontend doc.... GOOD SOLID Writeup... The information on Mythbuntu blows Mythdora away! [05:23] ouch, $180 [05:23] you can find them for $150 [05:23] Cons: Debug mode sends logs to manufacture, not stored locally so you can't do any troubleshooting yourself makes it a pain to fix problems. [05:23] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815327005&Tpk=hd%2bhomerun [05:24] yeah, i was going to get on at mythic [05:24] npurciful, so if you "put" it in debug mode [05:24] SiliconDust HD Homerun Dual Network HDTV ATSC/QAM Tuner for $179 [05:24] not like it logs habits [05:24] and sends them [05:24] hehe [05:25] yeah, paranioa [05:25] Dumb question to ask, but how do I get the icons on desktop from the dropdown menu. [05:25] on the desktop? [05:25] like copy them there? [05:25] Sounding like a friken idiot here. [05:26] yeah, "hides under desk" [05:26] er you mean just right clicking the desktop, that menu u get up [05:26] its been a while since I tried to do that, it used to be a pain in the [05:26] superm1: he wants to add them to the actual menu in the pannel [05:26] like you would in the windows start menu [05:26] i dont understand [05:26] rhpot1991, you can field that question then [05:26] I quess, or at the top (menu bar). [05:27] well I don't know the answer [05:27] Sure, but I would like a few setup on the desktop. [05:27] superm1: in gnome, you hit applications then say accessories [05:27] he wants to add his shortcut in there [05:27] oh [05:27] right click the menu and hit edit i'd guess? [05:28] Forget that... On to an important question, is there an area in the Frontend setup to clarify the IP address? [05:29] Setup it up on the backend. Documentation I am reading states I sould set it up at Setup, Setup, General (second page). There is no area for this. [05:29] wait [05:29] I got it [05:29] right click on "applications" [05:29] and select edit [05:29] can do it in there [05:30] wow, thats way easier then it used to be [05:30] isnt that what i said? [05:30] kinda, but I took your words to be inside the menu [05:30] but it is exactly what you said [05:30] stupid english language [05:31] I would say bickering, but what do I know... really [05:31] Thanks rhpot1991 [05:32] thank superm1, he said it first [05:33] So how about it, Do I need to set the local IP address in Myth Frontend for the MediaMVP? [05:33] yah, ur right... THanks superml [05:36] I did run into another situation today, where is the POSTER directory (for movies). Have clip art for my collection... Do I just put it in the movies directory? [05:38] keep it seperate, cause it will scan them as if they are movies if they are in the same directory [05:38] doesn't effect much, just annoying [05:41] Where is the directory to dump them... Was POSTERS in MythDora. [05:41] hum it is funny how my supposed DTS recieve wont except dts passthough, but it will accept AC3 [05:43] i keep mine in .poster directory in the video folder [05:47] thxs... [05:50] MythWeather is working in the new 2.1 Doesnt seem to work on the older build. I am going to switch to VoIP and had read somewhere that MythPhone isnt working. Any truth to that? [05:51] Must say it is pretty SWEET>.. There is a bug in the Active Map; PC locked when I tried to enter a location. [05:54] i had a problem with mythweather earlier today, apperently the weathersource didnt update in the db when i upgrade this morning, i just had to edit the locations of the scripts in the db [05:54] yeah, mythweather in mythweb is awesome to [05:55] but the weathermaps dont working mythweb [05:56] what did you type for location on the maps [06:00] I too wsa working on it today... Could be same issue. My hometown (Rapid City SD) [06:02] the maps you have to search for regions Southweast, southcentral or just radar [06:02] i just searched for radar [06:04] npurciful, one of my many to-do's is a big upgrade to MythWeather [06:04] cool foxbuntu [06:05] I have a weather modeling firm local to me that does weather data for all of the US, I am moving the locations for every US Zipcode into a cross referenced DB I am adding to the backend, and will tie it all back together with cleaner dedicated data [06:06] the maps will be radar centered on the the zipcode you provide [06:06] no more searching by city name [06:07] that would awesome [06:07] hm so i wonder if my totem update hit hardy yet [06:08] superm1, what ddi you do to totem? [06:08] did rather [06:08] it speaks myth [06:08] neat i think it did [06:08] foxbuntu: 2mile from the NWS in Oklahoma [06:08] cool [06:10] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4360059#post4360059 [06:11] neat superm1 [06:12] its far less useful than it seems at this point [06:12] but eventually it will be really neat [06:13] rhpot1991, man it feels weird to be on the end of "needing sponsorship" [06:14] heh [06:14] its a pain to say the least [06:14] especially when you are working the day before a FF [06:14] yeah yesterday did you see the stuff that slomo found on my package [06:14] its insane! [06:14] which package? [06:14] missed that somehow [06:15] looks like both of mine are still in new [06:16] prob gonna be there for a while? [06:18] probably clear NEW this week [06:19] mine was gmyth [06:19] getting it into debian [06:19] are they more picky there? [06:22] that sucked, ISP booted me and my computer locked up reseting the connection [06:23] npurciful_, what are you doing that your ISP booted you? [06:23] ;) [06:24] maybe he has comcast [06:24] ha [06:24] nothing it is this stupid Wireless Internet though cellphones, i cant do anything but look at webpages, private ip (not P2p) [06:24] they used to boot me every night at midnight, and every time I ran torrents [06:24] not = no [06:25] rhpot1991, thats helpful [06:25] ATT want to charge me 500$ or a public ip [06:25] ?? [06:25] holy crap tastic [06:26] superm1: thats cool w/ the totem deal [06:27] rhpot1991, yeah they are very much so [06:28] hmmm c# aint half bad, I wish I used this at work instead of asp.net [06:28] i assume that totem would be fore liteweight viewer [06:29] yeah [06:30] is totem cross platform if it was then you could use it for a remote frontend [06:30] i dont think it is right now [06:31] vlc plugin would rock [06:31] yeah it would [06:31] well with libgmyth0 [06:31] its possible [06:31] thats how the gstreamer plugin was written === npurciful_ is now known as npurciful [06:37] hah, pixmaps work with this build [06:37] thats nice [06:41] they didn't before? [06:48] backend went to 200% [06:48] pixmaps for mythweb [06:51] well it is 1am got to work tommorrow see ya later [07:42] good morning (GMT) [07:45] pretty quiet here still, heh [09:28] imdb works again :) Just "install" the new imdb.pl :) [09:29] wget http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythplugins/mythvideo/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl?format=raw [09:30] sudo mv imdb.pl\?format\=raw imdb.pl /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl [09:30] oups.. right one: sudo mv imdb.pl\?format\=raw /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl [09:36] Nope.. thats wrong too. ;) Here you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2211002&postcount=3 [09:45] After I rip a DVD using mythdvd, to what file on the filesystem does the ripped file go? [09:47] nm, i just found it. /var/lib/mythtv/videos [10:06] what command do I use to create a file. [10:08] touch filename.ext [10:08] or create one with a editor ... like nano filename.ext [10:08] thanks nikas, using the nano. [10:09] np :) [10:44] how do I check to see if firewall is running [10:48] Or, is there a firewall setup after installation? [10:57] no, there's no firewall as standard on ubuntu [10:57] there's one coming in 8.04 [10:59] thks, setting up H3 MediaMVP and struggling [11:02] Is there a dhcpd.conf file? location? [11:03] i don't run a dhcp server, sorry [11:15] Can someone tell me what the persmissions are supposed to be in /var/lib/mythtv? [11:16] I just played with mounts on my system and think I messed them up [11:16] if someone could paste the output of these two commands, that's what i need: [11:16] ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv [11:16] ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv/* [11:18] ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv/* - drwxrwxr-x 2 mythtv mythtv [11:19] ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv - drwxr-xr-x 6 root root [11:20] Is there anyone who can assist me with a MediaMVP H3 install? === slestak|away is now known as slestak [14:38] hello [14:39] does the new mythbuntu have the ability to setup diskless clients? === Nikas2 is now known as Nikas [14:41] or can i install mythbuntu then chroot to install another mythbuntu install for a client? or should i just use mythtv over ubuntu? [14:42] I believe that 8.04 will have some sort of diskless support [14:43] is it in the alpha? [14:43] one of the devs was trying to get it done before the hardy feature freeze, and I believe that he did [14:44] cool might give it a look tonight...makes it easier than chrooting..for lazy people like me [14:47] bear_: not sure where it lives or what the current state is, might want to wait for someone who knows a little more about what actually happened with it [14:48] ok, np [14:48] on a side not would the chroot thing work if i used ubuntu server and built from there? === canZzZz is now known as canatella [15:17] hello [15:18] to test 8.04 alpha, do dist-upgrading from mythbuntu gutsy to hardy is OK ? [15:48] canatella: Yes.. but i got big problems with the system hard locks.. [17:57] After I've ripped a DVD to an iso using mythdvd, is there any automated way to re-encode it down to own of the lower quality levels available in mythdvd? [17:58] Or, do I have to re-rip the DVD? [18:00] i'd rerip [18:00] it seems like the only option [18:00] you can transcode it, but with every transcode you lose quality [18:01] is there a reason to do this? [18:01] tgm4883_laptop: It's just that I've already ripped it, and would rather not wait for the rip to happen again. [18:01] It takes like half an hour. [18:02] right, but are you trying to make it smaller or what? [18:02] tgm4883_laptop: I ripped it to an ISO, so there wasn't any initial quality loss. [18:02] tgm4883_laptop: Yeah, smaller. [18:02] secondly, it's still going to take time [18:02] :blink: [18:02] Yeah. [18:02] i'm confused [18:02] Just not as much time. [18:03] you ripped it to iso so there wasn't any quality loss, now you want to transcode it, which will cause quality loss [18:03] tgm4883_laptop: I decided my initial decision was wrong, and now I don't mind losing quality to gain the extra space. [18:03] Get it now? [18:03] ah [18:04] ok, that makes sense then [18:04] sounded like you thought you weren't losing any quality this way [18:04]