[00:00] <OpenMedia> Oh.. Whats that?
[00:00] <foxbuntu> I am dealing with the patent issues around libdvdcss and liblame
[00:00] <OpenMedia> Oooo Lovely..
[00:00] <foxbuntu> yeah
[00:01] <foxbuntu> I think I have a soultion but its going to take quite allot of dev work
[00:01] <OpenMedia> You might need to throw in AAC as it isn't just NZ. Norway is going that way, and the UK might be following when they do HD on terrestrial
[00:01] <foxbuntu> sigh
[00:01] <OpenMedia> Hmmm Gotta go for 5...
[00:01] <foxbuntu> ok
[00:06] <directhex> OpenMedia, AFAIK, there's a twiddle in the database to enable loop filter skipping, which makes h264 playback rather less taxing on the ol' cpu
[00:09] <MythbuntuGuest23> Using Hardy pkg...  Setting Myth up and ran updates/upgrades this afternoon.  Now I cannot get Recordings, Videos, or watch live TV.
[00:10] <directhex> MythbuntuGuest23, do you have distinct back & frontends?
[00:10] <MythbuntuGuest23> getting a lot of crashes.
[00:11] <MythbuntuGuest23> Well, I think it may be related to Update Manager stalling...  Fails to install python.apt, mythbuntu-control-centre, update-manager, update-manager-core
[00:12] <MythbuntuGuest23> Not sure what you mean by distinct back and front;  Running both front/back from 1 PC.
[00:14] <OpenMedia> directhex Thanks for that.
[00:15] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: gotta drop off for a reboot.
[00:15] <foxbuntu> np
[00:15] <MythbuntuGuest23> Any thoughts as to how to get LIVE TV and Recordings to work?  Also, would like to know why Python.apt is not installing.
[00:18] <directhex> MythbuntuGuest23, open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[00:20] <MythbuntuGuest23> Locked:Unable to lock the download directory
[00:20] <directhex> close any other package managers you have running
[00:22] <MythbuntuGuest23> OK. errors /user/bin/pycentral, line 1587, 1593, 1015, ect....
[00:22] <MythbuntuGuest23> Errors were encountered while processing
[00:23] <directhex> paste the exact errors yo pastebin.ubuntu.com
[00:23] <MythbuntuGuest23> Working on a differenct machine.
[00:24] <directhex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-apt/+bug/193076 ?
[00:26] <MythbuntuGuest23> Going to add to this...  Hold a sec, logging in.
[00:28] <MythbuntuGuest23> 193068
[00:34] <MythbuntuGuest23> Cannot get this to work...  Tried an update with synaptic Package Manager..  errors out.
[00:35] <MythbuntuGuest23> Im brand new to ubuntu and truly am an amature at this...
[00:35] <MythbuntuGuest23> Found a fix at 192992, but dont know how to impliment it.
[00:49] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest23, its a problem with python-central
[00:49] <superm1> looks like someone broke it
[00:51] <npurciful> heya superm1 how goes it today
[00:51] <superm1> npurciful, alright
[00:51] <superm1> those builds worked for i386
[00:51] <superm1> amd64 i have no idea why that failed :
[00:51] <npurciful> see you finally got the i386 to build
[00:51] <superm1> yeah
[00:53] <npurciful> yeah, the new build is awesome, seeing lot of polishing
[00:56] <superm1> npurciful, any ideas on the failed amd64 build though?
[00:56] <superm1> i'm not really sure what to do to fix it.
[00:56] <superm1> seems like something not pretty
[00:56] <npurciful> i was lookin at the log
[00:57] <superm1> and i dont have an amd64 anymore that I could chroot into to debug that sort of thing unfort
[00:59] <npurciful> yeah, it looks like aacdec but i dont know
[01:00] <superm1> yeah well i've reverted the patch that is normally applied for 7.10 builds
[01:00] <superm1> er normally for 8.04 builds that is
[01:00] <superm1> and that made the i386 go
[01:00] <superm1> but that amd64, i really dunno
[01:01] <npurciful> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/133097
[01:01] <npurciful> looks like your not the omly one
[01:02] <npurciful> err
[01:02] <npurciful> oops well it has happend before
[01:14] <rogue780> howiddly do
[01:14] <sevlor> hello again
[01:15] <sevlor> anyone have any issues with mythdvd playing too fast?
[01:24] <sevlor> ok, nevermind, i am having issues with everything playing back way too fast
[01:24] <OpenMedia> superm1 - you around?
[01:28] <superm1> yeah
[01:43] <npurciful> ah playin with virtualbox, installing myth and adding 2TB storage mount
[01:43] <sevlor> hmm for some reason my machine has developed the double clock spee problem
[01:44] <npurciful> crap my pizza is burnt
[01:48]  * rogue780 hates pointers in c++
[01:49] <Ghost1227> i'm having issues with my pvr-150, anyone got a sec to help me out?
[01:50] <egghead3> is there a better player then the internal one for playing dvd files in iso format?
[01:50] <Ghost1227> egghead3: i use vlc personally
[01:51] <rogue780> VLC rulez
[01:51] <egghead3> works well for iso's?
[01:51] <Ghost1227> works great for everything
[01:51] <egghead3> :) cool
[01:51] <egghead3> ill google it
[01:51] <egghead3> thanks
[01:52] <Ghost1227> egghead3: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[01:52] <npurciful> videolan.org
[01:52] <rogue780> Ghost1227, FTW!
[01:52] <Ghost1227> lol
[01:52] <egghead3> thnaks all
[01:52] <Ghost1227> any time
[01:53] <Ghost1227> now if only i could find someone who has a prv-150...
[01:54] <npurciful> havent got one but whats the issue
[01:54] <Ghost1227> i have a pvr-150 that works well, but only up to channel 50... after 50 it just gives static
[01:55] <npurciful> cable or antenna
[01:55] <Ghost1227> cable
[01:55] <npurciful> has it ever worked
[01:56] <Ghost1227> not on this setup
[01:56] <szakulec> did you set the channel frequency to cable-hru (not plain cable)?
[01:57] <npurciful> above 50 maybe scramble need a convertbox
[01:57] <Ghost1227> szakulec: no, where is that option?
[01:59] <egghead3> ghost i have a pvr-150, it working on a dishnet box
[02:00] <Ghost1227> szakulec: i found it
[02:00] <szakulec> okay
[02:00] <Ghost1227> testing that now
[02:01] <npurciful> good lord it takes forever write inode tables for 2TB
[02:09] <Ghost1227> lol
[02:09] <Ghost1227> if it makes you feel any better, i'm compiling my kernel right now... i'd forgotten how long that takes
[02:14] <szakulec> if you plan to do big compiles on a regular basis, you'll want ccache
[02:16] <Ghost1227> lol
[02:18] <Ghost1227> not the first time i've done this
[02:20] <Ghost1227> although it is the first time i've done something this in depth in almost a year... building from the ground up
[02:22] <npurciful> lol, 1.9 TB free, i am retarted just wanted to see what it would be like so i made a 2TB virtual drive image
[02:23] <npurciful> it took like 40min to write the inode tables
[02:24] <szakulec> how much actual space does it take up?
[02:24] <npurciful> 9mb
[02:24] <szakulec> not bad
[02:24] <foxbuntu> well then just make a 500TB Virtual drive :)
[02:24] <foxbuntu> or go for 1PB
[02:26] <npurciful> heh, would but i think 2gb is the max
[02:26] <npurciful> or 2TB
[02:27] <npurciful> it fun to have the thing you cant afford
[02:27] <Ghost1227> lol
[02:27] <szakulec> based on what you said, to do a 1 PB image would take 333 hours or so
[02:27] <npurciful> hehe
[02:28] <npurciful> give or take a day or two
[02:29] <Ghost1227> lol
[02:31] <npurciful> yeah the max is 2TB :(
[02:38] <szakulec> anyone use the other video devices on the pvr-250 (video24 or video32)?
[02:52] <MythbuntuGuest23> superml, you there?
[02:55] <MythbuntuGuest23> I am on the Hardy pkg...  Is the Feisty package mostly bug free.. Thinking of switching as I have been having too many problems.
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> pkg of what?
[02:57] <MythbuntuGuest23> I am on 8.04 alpha 2...  It is crashing often and now I cannot get TV.  Unsure if it is related to the latest bug or if I will have continued problems.  Thinking of switching to 7.04
[02:58] <MythbuntuGuest23> Wondering if it is stable and bug free...  Also would like to know if it has the same version of MythTV
[02:59] <tgm4883_laptop> well mythbuntu doesn't have a 7.04, only a 7.10
[03:00] <MythbuntuGuest23> ur right...  Is it stable? and does it have the same MythTV version?
[03:00] <tgm4883_laptop> it uses .20.2
[03:00] <tgm4883_laptop> although you can use .21 if you like
[03:01] <MythbuntuGuest23> And how would I be able to get .21?
[03:01] <tgm4883_laptop> http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[03:01] <MythbuntuGuest23> Does .21 have issues? or is it Ubuntu that is giving me the headache?
[03:02] <tgm4883_laptop> could be both, they are both technically unstable, however, i'd lean toward it being hardy, as it is more unstable
[03:04] <MythbuntuGuest23> OK, thanks...  I think I am going to do a clean install of 7.1.  When Hardy and 2.1 are stable, I will be able to upgrade to them w/o having to run a fresh install?
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[03:09] <MythbuntuGuest23> Great, thanks for the assistance tgm4883
[03:11] <MythbuntuGuest23> OK, now I am having problems w/ 7.1 install...  Getting Debootstrap warning.  Failure wile configuring base packages.  Unable to continue.
[03:53] <MythbuntuGuest23> Setting partitions; where do movies, recordings, ect go...  Need to know if I could use /home, or /media...
[03:55] <MythbuntuGuest23> Sorry, unfamiliar w/ the storage structure.  Migrated from MythDora.
[04:02] <superm1> by default they are in /var/lib/
[04:03] <superm1> there are videos dirs there
[04:03] <superm1> music
[04:03] <superm1> recordings etc
[04:03] <superm1> you can put them wherever you want though to change things
[04:51] <npurciful> j
[04:53] <npurciful> crap i ran out of prerecorded stuff to watch
[04:54] <MythbuntuGuest23> thanks superml.  I just loaded mythbuntu 7.10; ran the pkg update..  Now want to do apt-get upgrade/update.  Getting error Could not open lock file (permission denied) Unable to lock the administration directory. are you root?
[04:54] <MythbuntuGuest23> I do not have anything open.
[04:54] <npurciful> you run sudo apt-get update
[04:54] <superm1> do it with sudo
[04:54] <superm1> or gksudo
[04:54] <MythbuntuGuest23> damn writers union...  Ive been having issues with running out of shows.
[04:54] <superm1> or update-manager
[04:55] <MythbuntuGuest23> thanks...  user error.
[04:55] <npurciful> no kidding MythbuntuGuest23 at least there back now
[04:56] <MythbuntuGuest23> Is update-manager the same as apt-get update?
[04:57] <MythbuntuGuest23> For now right...  Seems to me, if I can recall correctly, the baseball leagues striked more than once (wanted more money).
[04:57] <npurciful> update-manager is a gui for apt
[04:57] <MythbuntuGuest23> nice to know
[04:58] <npurciful> and they have million dollar contract, gofigure
[04:58] <MythbuntuGuest23> right... Think the set designers, camera men, ect are going to get more money with this strike or will they be next?
[04:59]  * npurciful notes: goes out of his way to use commandline!
[04:59] <npurciful> uh if the cameramen left we would be screwed
[05:00] <MythbuntuGuest23> How did I install the nvidia driver last night superml.
[05:01] <MythbuntuGuest23> npurciful...  I wonder if the writers were working when they went on strike, you know, still writing...  If they took a vacation I recon it will be a while until heroes and other kicka** shows are on.
[05:02] <MythbuntuGuest23> Not seeing Nvidia logo at boot or in the System> folder.
[05:02] <npurciful> yeah, if i where a writer i would be working on material
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest23> lets hope right... getting a bit sick of the reality shows.
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest23> And summer is nearing.
[05:03] <npurciful> on of my favorites show got canceled case of the strike. K*ville
[05:03] <rhpot1991> it was on fox, what more did you expect?
[05:03] <npurciful> true
[05:04]  * rhpot1991 is still bitter over fox axing arrested development
[05:04] <rhpot1991> and futurama
[05:04] <npurciful> it was just 2 show away from full season
[05:04] <MythbuntuGuest23> Really,  never knew.  There were SOOO many pilots this year I had to really pick and choose what to watch.  Now there is nothing to watch.  Go figure right.
[05:04] <npurciful> yeah good shows too
[05:05] <MythbuntuGuest23> Do you know the command to load the "Nvidia" software, or should I just locate in Package Manager.
[05:05] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest23, nvidia-settings
[05:06] <npurciful> kville was cost fox alot of money, they said if the strike would of been less than couple week that they would of finished it
[05:06] <npurciful> costing
[05:06] <npurciful> the strike was escape goat
[05:07] <MythbuntuGuest23> Makes sence... HBO has cancelled a some good shows as a result of money; Crnival and Deadwood really were great!
[05:08] <npurciful> yeah, i wasnt even thinking about premium channel just got HD OTA
[05:09] <MythbuntuGuest23> Now my resolution on TV is off...  set to auto!  This happened to me last night.  Rebooted, nothing.  Today I fired it up and it was working.  unsure what I, if anything, did.
[05:09] <MythbuntuGuest23> You just setup HD? not sure what OTA is
[05:10] <npurciful> Over the Air
[05:10] <npurciful> Antenna
[05:11] <MythbuntuGuest23> On, nice... Was reading about a box, think it is HD Homerun; has 2 tuners for $140 at Newegg...  Pretty sweet deal, thinking about it.  What card(s) did you choose.
[05:11] <npurciful> pchdtv 5500
[05:12] <npurciful> it run 129$ think back it is over priced
[05:12] <npurciful> I am ordering a HDHR
[05:12] <MythbuntuGuest23> pricy little guy...  But had the pinguin soo it MUST be good.
[05:14] <MythbuntuGuest23> I have a Mozart Sx box...  Think the next one (media room) will be the Mozart TX...  Just having wet dreams at night thinking about it.
[05:15] <MythbuntuGuest23> http://thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/Mozarttx/ve1000_index.asp
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest23> The feedback Ive read about it is very posotive...  Pricing is not too bad either.
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest23> >>>HDHR
[05:17] <npurciful> yeah
[05:17] <MythbuntuGuest23> Now Im ready to have fun... Setting up the MediaMVP
[05:17] <MythbuntuGuest23> Damb b**** to set.
[05:18] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest23, there is a wiki page on that
[05:18] <superm1> look on help.ubuntu.com
[05:18] <MythbuntuGuest23> There is a plethera of knowledge out there... each does it a bit different
[05:20] <MythbuntuGuest23> I started on this today, but had to load 7.10... Used a doc for the H2...  Could not find one for H3 which is what I use.
[05:20] <npurciful> MythbuntuGuest23: that case is crazy
[05:20] <MythbuntuGuest23> It is SOOOO sweat  (think of the cooling and quiteness) 2 Motherboards...  ect...  Search it on youtube.  There are some wicked setups.
[05:21] <npurciful> superm1: i just read that hdhomerun sends it logs to silicon dust can you verify this?
[05:21] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest23, well that was written in a sense of coming from mythbuntu
[05:21] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest23, and a few different situations that you can be in it covers afaik
[05:21] <superm1> npurciful, where did you read that?
[05:21] <MythbuntuGuest23> It was... Just not the correct model I am wanting to use; superml
[05:22] <npurciful> newegg
[05:22] <superm1> npurciful, i'd look somewhere more reputable first regarding that....
[05:22] <superm1> npurciful, i've never heard such things
[05:23] <rhpot1991> newegg sells hd homeruns???
[05:23] <npurciful> sounded wrong to me but i thought i might ask
[05:23] <npurciful> yeah
[05:23] <MythbuntuGuest23> Using MediaMVP Frontend doc....  GOOD SOLID Writeup...  The information on Mythbuntu blows Mythdora away!
[05:23] <rhpot1991> ouch, $180
[05:23] <rhpot1991> you can find them for $150
[05:23] <npurciful> Cons: Debug mode sends logs to manufacture, not stored locally so you can't do any troubleshooting yourself makes it a pain to fix problems.
[05:23] <MythbuntuGuest23> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815327005&Tpk=hd%2bhomerun
[05:24] <npurciful> yeah, i was going to get on at mythic
[05:24] <superm1> npurciful, so if you "put" it in debug mode
[05:24] <MythbuntuGuest23> SiliconDust HD Homerun Dual Network HDTV ATSC/QAM Tuner for $179
[05:24] <superm1> not like it logs habits
[05:24] <superm1> and sends them
[05:24] <npurciful> hehe
[05:25] <npurciful>  yeah, paranioa
[05:25] <MythbuntuGuest23> Dumb question to ask, but how do I get the icons on desktop from the dropdown menu.
[05:25] <superm1> on the desktop?
[05:25] <superm1> like copy them there?
[05:25] <MythbuntuGuest23> Sounding like a friken idiot here.
[05:26] <MythbuntuGuest23> yeah,  "hides under desk"
[05:26] <superm1> er you mean just right clicking the desktop, that menu u get up
[05:26] <rhpot1991> its been a while since I tried to do that, it used to be a pain in the
[05:26] <rhpot1991> superm1: he wants to add them to the actual menu in the pannel
[05:26] <rhpot1991> like you would in the windows start menu
[05:26] <superm1> i dont understand
[05:26] <superm1> rhpot1991, you can field that question then
[05:26] <MythbuntuGuest23> I quess, or at the top (menu bar).
[05:27] <rhpot1991> well I don't know the answer
[05:27] <MythbuntuGuest23> Sure, but I would like a few setup on the desktop.
[05:27] <rhpot1991> superm1: in gnome, you hit applications then say accessories
[05:27] <rhpot1991> he wants to add his shortcut in there
[05:27] <superm1> oh
[05:27] <superm1> right click the menu and hit edit i'd guess?
[05:28] <MythbuntuGuest23> Forget that... On to an important question, is there an area in the Frontend setup to clarify the IP address?
[05:29] <MythbuntuGuest23> Setup it up on the backend.  Documentation I am reading states I sould set it up at Setup, Setup, General (second page).  There is no area for this.
[05:29] <rhpot1991> wait
[05:29] <rhpot1991> I got it
[05:29] <rhpot1991> right click on "applications"
[05:29] <rhpot1991> and select edit
[05:29] <rhpot1991> can do it in there
[05:30] <rhpot1991> wow, thats way easier then it used to be
[05:30] <superm1> isnt that what i said?
[05:30] <rhpot1991> kinda, but I took your words to be inside the menu
[05:30] <rhpot1991> but it is exactly what you said
[05:30] <rhpot1991> stupid english language
[05:31] <MythbuntuGuest23> I would say bickering, but what do I know... really
[05:31] <MythbuntuGuest23> Thanks rhpot1991
[05:32] <rhpot1991> thank superm1, he said it first
[05:33] <MythbuntuGuest23> So how about it, Do I need to set the local IP address in Myth Frontend for the MediaMVP?
[05:33] <MythbuntuGuest23> yah, ur right... THanks superml
[05:36] <MythbuntuGuest23> I did run into another situation today, where is the POSTER directory (for movies). Have clip art for my collection... Do I just put it in the movies directory?
[05:38] <rhpot1991> keep it seperate, cause it will scan them as if they are movies if they are in the same directory
[05:38] <rhpot1991> doesn't effect much, just annoying
[05:41] <MythbuntuGuest23> Where is the directory to dump them... Was POSTERS in MythDora.
[05:41] <npurciful> hum it is funny how my supposed DTS recieve wont except dts passthough, but it will accept AC3
[05:43] <npurciful> i keep mine in .poster directory in the video folder
[05:47] <MythbuntuGuest23> thxs...
[05:50] <MythbuntuGuest23> MythWeather is working in the new 2.1  Doesnt seem to work on the older build.  I am going to switch to VoIP and had read somewhere that MythPhone isnt working.  Any truth to that?
[05:51] <MythbuntuGuest23> Must say it is pretty SWEET>..  There is a bug in the Active Map; PC locked when I tried to enter a location.
[05:54] <npurciful> i had a problem with mythweather earlier today, apperently the weathersource didnt update in the db when i upgrade this morning, i just had to edit the locations of the scripts in the db
[05:54] <npurciful> yeah, mythweather in mythweb is awesome to
[05:55] <npurciful> but the weathermaps dont working mythweb
[05:56] <npurciful> what did you type for location on the maps
[06:00] <MythbuntuGuest23> I too wsa working on it today... Could be same issue.  My hometown (Rapid City SD)
[06:02] <npurciful> the maps you have to search for regions Southweast, southcentral or just radar
[06:02] <npurciful> i just searched for radar
[06:04] <foxbuntu> npurciful, one of my many to-do's is a big upgrade to MythWeather
[06:04] <npurciful> cool foxbuntu
[06:05] <foxbuntu> I have a weather modeling firm local to me that does weather data for all of the US, I am moving the locations for every US Zipcode into a cross referenced DB I am adding to the backend, and will tie it all back together with cleaner dedicated data
[06:06] <foxbuntu> the maps will be radar centered on the the zipcode you provide
[06:06] <foxbuntu> no more searching by city name
[06:07] <npurciful> that would awesome
[06:07] <superm1> hm so i wonder if my totem update hit hardy yet
[06:08] <foxbuntu> superm1, what ddi you do to totem?
[06:08] <foxbuntu> did rather
[06:08] <superm1> it speaks myth
[06:08] <superm1> neat i think it did
[06:08] <npurciful> foxbuntu: 2mile from the NWS in Oklahoma
[06:08] <foxbuntu> cool
[06:10] <superm1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4360059#post4360059
[06:11] <rhpot1991> neat superm1
[06:12] <superm1> its far less useful than it seems at this point
[06:12] <superm1> but eventually it will be really neat
[06:13] <superm1> rhpot1991, man it feels weird to be on the end of "needing sponsorship"
[06:14] <rhpot1991> heh
[06:14] <rhpot1991> its a pain to say the least
[06:14] <rhpot1991> especially when you are working the day before a FF
[06:14] <superm1> yeah yesterday did you see the stuff that slomo found on my package
[06:14] <superm1> its insane!
[06:14] <rhpot1991> which package?
[06:14] <rhpot1991> missed that somehow
[06:15] <rhpot1991> looks like both of mine are still in new
[06:16] <rhpot1991> prob gonna be there for a while?
[06:18] <superm1> probably clear NEW this week
[06:19] <superm1> mine was gmyth
[06:19] <superm1> getting it into debian
[06:19] <rhpot1991> are they more picky there?
[06:22] <npurciful_> that sucked, ISP booted me and my computer locked up reseting the connection
[06:23] <foxbuntu> npurciful_, what are you doing that your ISP booted you?
[06:23] <foxbuntu> ;)
[06:24] <rhpot1991> maybe he has comcast
[06:24] <foxbuntu> ha
[06:24] <npurciful_> nothing it is this stupid Wireless Internet though cellphones, i cant do anything but look at webpages, private ip (not P2p)
[06:24] <rhpot1991> they used to boot me every night at midnight, and every time I ran torrents
[06:24] <npurciful_> not  = no
[06:25] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, thats helpful
[06:25] <npurciful_> ATT want to charge me 500$ or a public ip
[06:25] <foxbuntu> ??
[06:25] <foxbuntu> holy crap tastic
[06:26] <npurciful_> superm1: thats cool w/ the totem deal
[06:27] <superm1> rhpot1991, yeah they are very much so
[06:28] <rhpot1991> hmmm c# aint half bad, I wish I used this at work instead of asp.net
[06:28] <npurciful_> i assume that totem would be fore liteweight viewer
[06:29] <superm1> yeah
[06:30] <npurciful_> is totem cross platform if it was then you could use it for a remote frontend
[06:30] <superm1> i dont think it is right now
[06:31] <rhpot1991> vlc plugin would rock
[06:31] <superm1> yeah it would
[06:31] <superm1> well with libgmyth0
[06:31] <superm1> its possible
[06:31] <superm1> thats how the gstreamer plugin was written
[06:37] <npurciful> hah, pixmaps work with this build
[06:37] <npurciful> thats nice
[06:41] <superm1> they didn't before?
[06:48] <npurciful> backend went to 200%
[06:48] <npurciful> pixmaps for mythweb
[06:51] <npurciful> well it is 1am got to work tommorrow see ya later
[07:42] <camelreef> good morning (GMT)
[07:45] <camelreef> pretty quiet here still, heh
[09:28] <Nikas> imdb works again :) Just "install" the new imdb.pl :)
[09:29] <Nikas> wget http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythplugins/mythvideo/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl?format=raw
[09:30] <Nikas> sudo mv imdb.pl\?format\=raw imdb.pl /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl
[09:30] <Nikas> oups.. right one: sudo mv imdb.pl\?format\=raw /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl
[09:36] <Nikas> Nope.. thats wrong too. ;) Here you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2211002&postcount=3
[09:45] <levander> After I rip a DVD using mythdvd, to what file on the filesystem does the ripped file go?
[09:47] <levander> nm, i just found it.  /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[10:06] <MythbuntuGuest23> what command do I use to create a file.
[10:08] <Nikas> touch filename.ext
[10:08] <Nikas> or create one with a editor ... like nano filename.ext
[10:08] <MythbuntuGuest23> thanks nikas,  using the nano.
[10:09] <Nikas> np :)
[10:44] <MythbuntuGuest31> how do I check to see if firewall is running
[10:48] <MythbuntuGuest31> Or, is there a firewall setup after installation?
[10:57] <directhex|bsp> no, there's no firewall as standard on ubuntu
[10:57] <directhex|bsp> there's one coming in 8.04
[10:59] <MythbuntuGuest31> thks, setting up H3 MediaMVP and struggling
[11:02] <MythbuntuGuest31> Is there a dhcpd.conf file? location?
[11:03] <directhex|bsp> i don't run a dhcp server, sorry
[11:15] <levander> Can someone tell me what the persmissions are supposed to be in /var/lib/mythtv?
[11:16] <levander> I just played with mounts on my system and think I messed them up
[11:16] <levander> if someone could paste the output of these two commands, that's what i need:
[11:16] <levander> ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv
[11:16] <levander> ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv/*
[11:18] <Nikas> ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv/* - drwxrwxr-x 2 mythtv mythtv
[11:19] <Nikas> ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv - drwxr-xr-x 6 root root
[11:20] <MythbuntuGuest25> Is there anyone who can assist me with a MediaMVP H3 install?
[14:38] <bear_> hello
[14:39] <bear_> does the new mythbuntu have the ability to setup diskless clients?
[14:41] <bear_> or can i install mythbuntu then chroot to install another mythbuntu install for a client? or should i just use mythtv over ubuntu?
[14:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> I believe that 8.04 will have some sort of diskless support
[14:43] <bear_> is it in the alpha?
[14:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> one of the devs was trying to get it done before the hardy feature freeze, and I believe that he did
[14:44] <bear_> cool might give it a look tonight...makes it easier than chrooting..for lazy people like me
[14:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> bear_: not sure where it lives or what the current state is, might want to wait for someone who knows a little more about what actually happened with it
[14:48] <bear_> ok, np
[14:48] <bear_> on a side not would the chroot thing work if i used ubuntu server and built from there?
[15:17] <canatella> hello
[15:18] <canatella> to test 8.04 alpha, do dist-upgrading from mythbuntu gutsy to hardy is OK ?
[15:48] <Nikas> canatella: Yes.. but i got big problems with the system hard locks..
[17:57] <levander> After I've ripped a DVD to an iso using mythdvd, is there any automated way to re-encode it down to own of the lower quality levels available in mythdvd?
[17:58] <levander> Or, do I have to re-rip the DVD?
[18:00] <tgm4883_laptop> i'd rerip
[18:00] <levander> it seems like the only option
[18:00] <tgm4883_laptop> you can transcode it, but with every transcode you lose quality
[18:01] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a reason to do this?
[18:01] <levander> tgm4883_laptop: It's just that I've already ripped it, and would rather not wait for the rip to happen again.
[18:01] <levander> It takes like half an hour.
[18:02] <tgm4883_laptop> right, but are you trying to make it smaller or what?
[18:02] <levander> tgm4883_laptop: I ripped it to an ISO, so there wasn't any initial quality loss.
[18:02] <levander> tgm4883_laptop: Yeah, smaller.
[18:02] <tgm4883_laptop> secondly, it's still going to take time
[18:02] <tgm4883_laptop> :blink:
[18:02] <levander> Yeah.
[18:02] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm confused
[18:02] <levander> Just not as much time.
[18:03] <tgm4883_laptop> you ripped it to iso so there wasn't any quality loss, now you want to transcode it, which will cause quality loss
[18:03] <levander> tgm4883_laptop: I decided my initial decision was wrong, and now I don't mind losing quality to gain the extra space.
[18:03] <levander> Get it now?
[18:03] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[18:04] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, that makes sense then
[18:04] <tgm4883_laptop> sounded like you thought you weren't losing any quality this way
[18:04] <levander> No.  It's just a time thing.
[18:04] <tgm4883_laptop> well it's stilll going to take a fair amount of time.  Transcoding is pretty intense
[18:05] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, probably the easiest way would be to mount the iso, link it to the dvd dir and run the mythdvd backup again
[18:05] <levander> I'm assuming there's a very good technical reason why you can't watch videos on any mythbox except where the actually video files sits? (well, can't unless you use cifs/nfs)
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> um
[18:06] <levander> tgm4883_laptop: Interesting little thing with the iso.  I wouldn't have thought of that.
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> cause it's not transfered via the mythtv protocol.  I don't have a better reason though.  You could poke around in mythtv-users if you really want an answer
[18:07] <levander> Okay, last question.  Is the reason I didn't get subtitles in this one video because I didn't rip all the Titles?
[18:07] <levander> I can't seem to get subtitles turned on.
[18:07] <tgm4883_laptop> no, afaik subtitles would be in the same title that you ripped
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> all the info for that particular movie segment is in the title, different audio tracks, angles, subtitles, video
[18:08] <levander> Damn, it's a french movie and I'll have no idea what's going on without subtitles.
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> well thats your first problem ;)
[18:09] <levander> It looks like you not only have to mount /var/lib/mythtv/videos over the network to watch videos on your frontend, you also have to mount a directory in your home folder that contains cover art image files.
[18:10] <levander> Well, I guess it'd still work without the cover art...
[18:11] <tgm4883_laptop> i'd have to check on that when i get home, but I believe it works with only the first dir shared
[20:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'm looking for someone who is running gutsy and has the proprietary codecs enabled
[20:02] <Nikas> i have
[20:09] <rhpot1991_laptop> Nikas: can you pastebin your output of ffmpeg --version ?
[20:09] <rhpot1991_laptop> !pastebin | Nikas
[20:09] <ubotu> Nikas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:11] <Nikas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56657/
[20:11] <Nikas> right? ;)
[20:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep thats it thanks
[20:11] <Nikas> whii ;)
[20:27] <Relkin> I am running Mythbuntu 7.10 on an Intel P4 3.0 GHz system using an ATI X800 (R430).  I want to output s-video, but the screen constantly rolls using the vesa drivers.  When I try to use fglrx (ver 8.37.6, May 25, 2008 ), it reverts to failsafe all the time and displays garbage on any connected display.  I have run through the various wikis and searched google, but cannot seem to overcome this problem.  Also, when I try to run fg
[20:34] <sshirley> hi everyone
[20:36] <sshirley> Does mythbuntu use a different list of available video drivers than what is in the system? Mythbuntu, by default, doesn't recognized my video card (ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro). It only uses the vesa driver. I installed the latest driver for that specific card. But it doesn't appear in the list when mythbuntu boots up. Any ideas?
[20:38] <Daviey> sshirley: you installed the binary ati driver?
[20:40] <sshirley> yes. but since i am using composite video, unless I checked it to be ok, mythbuntu always comes up with a dialog saying "ooops, you're in low resolution mode". when i go into the dialog to configure, it ALWAYS comes up with vesa even thought I select flgrx (or whatever) and save.
[20:40] <Relkin> that was happening to me, too, sshirley
[20:41] <sshirley> Ok. What did you do to fix it, Relkin?
[20:42] <Relkin> I came here :)
[20:42] <sshirley> Mind you, the driver for the 2600 HD series was not a part of the default mythbuntu install. I had to install that driver. But it is still not showing up in that list.
[20:42] <Relkin> Yes, the ati drivers are part of the restricted distribution
[20:43] <sshirley> Beautiful, Relkin, beautiful. :-)  Grace me with your knowledge. :-)
[20:43] <Relkin> I had to specifically enable download and enable the drivers
[20:43] <Relkin> but, I have not solved the problem.
[20:43] <sshirley> From Synaptic?
[20:44] <Relkin> It was whatever Mythbuntu looked into, which happens to be the "linux-restricted-modules" repo
[20:44] <sshirley> or within that video driver dialog?
[20:44] <Relkin> I was using the gui and it was not taking my changes, so I would edit xorg.conf directly according to the many wiki's and forum posts.
[20:45] <sshirley> Right. I have that enabled from within the control center
[20:45] <Relkin> It always revers to its failsafe with my ATI drivers.
[20:45] <Daviey> Might be an idea to look at a more modern fglrx?
[20:45] <sshirley> Even though you edit the xorg.conf file??
[20:45] <Daviey> some moan about it, but envy will help with this
[20:46] <Relkin> will that nexeccarily break anything with Myth?
[20:46] <Daviey> shouldn't do
[20:46] <sshirley> Catalyst 8.2 was just released 5 days ago
[20:46] <Daviey> (no promises)
[20:46] <sshirley> envy?
[20:47] <Relkin> I'm running fglrx 8.37.6 (5/27/08 ) now, but thinking I might want to look at the ATI binaries (as you suggest)
[20:47] <Relkin> directly from ATI...  I just wget'd them
[20:47] <Daviey> envy = script to install latest fglrx
[20:47] <Daviey> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[20:47] <sshirley> So enable from within Mythbuntu or Ubuntu?
[20:50] <Relkin> Mythbuntu and Ubuntu are the same, except that Mythbuntu is customized/optimized for MythTV.
[20:50] <Relkin> Daviey: thanks.
[20:51] <sshirley> Right. Ok...enable from the OS or from within MythTV Control Center, I should say.
[20:52] <Relkin> Daviey: Got a question re: s-video...  Do the ATI drivers support S-video out for movie-watching, etc?
[20:57] <Daviey> Relkin: no idea, never used ATI + S-Video
[20:58] <Relkin> k
[20:58] <sshirley> Relkin: Yes. I use that right now.
[20:59] <Relkin> Odd... I can't get that working right, either....  it just rolls on the screen.
[20:59] <sshirley> It's still using the vesa driver, but the card itself is outputting to the s-video port. I have read that ATI does support this in all of their drivers. If only I could get mine to recognize the card itself.
[21:00] <sshirley> I just plugged it in and it worked out-of-the-box even without drivers. I could install mythbuntu from the livecd
[21:15] <MnDBnDr> Hello all
[21:17] <npurciful> whats up
[21:18] <npurciful> err, dvd::rip is slow
[21:21] <tgm4883> npurciful, doesn't dvd::rip also transcode?
[21:21] <npurciful> yeah, that is the slow part 25fps slower than real time
[21:22] <npurciful> sometimes as slow a9fps
[21:22] <npurciful> s/a/as
[21:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> npurciful: why not use myth to rip that dvd?
[21:24] <Nikas> Envy should come "pre-installed" with MythBuntu ;)
[21:25] <npurciful> i normally do but this dvd has only 1 title with 14 chap each, and i want to separted chapters
[21:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> ah ok
[21:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> I still need to make a wiki entry for problematic dvd's
[21:26] <npurciful> yeah, it sucks also recompiling k3b for dvdread support
[21:26] <npurciful> see if it is faster
[21:27] <npurciful> it took 35min for 4min video
[21:27] <rhpot1991_laptop> I've fount the myth ripper to be pretty quick, until you hit something that has a junked up protection scheme
[21:27] <npurciful> rhpot1991_laptop: yeah, myth would even play Mr Woodcock
[21:28] <npurciful> f*ckers
[21:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> npurciful: I've come across a lot of movies that wont play in myth, using netflix and all
[21:30] <npurciful> sucks
[21:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> npurciful: http://www.kalysto.org/utilities/dd_rhelp/index.en.html
[21:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> I use that for problematic dvd's, takes a while to rip, but it will skip the problem areas and you can just kill it once it stops pulling good data
[21:31] <tgm4883> Nikas, I disagree
[21:31] <tgm4883> Envy can die a slow death
[21:32] <Nikas> hehe why?
[21:32] <tgm4883> seen it destroy a few installs
[21:32] <tgm4883> it's almost as good as automatix
[21:32] <Nikas> oh.. not good. Glad it worked for me then..
[21:33] <Relkin> it's working ok for me, except that the ATI driver doesn't want to play nice with me.
[21:34] <npurciful> rhpot1991_laptop: thanks for the info
[21:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> npurciful: make sure you use a log if you do that, cause you can ctrl+c and kill it and resume at any point
[21:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> cause its pretty cpu intensive
[21:36] <npurciful> alright :)
[21:37] <Relkin> any reason why the ati binaries wouldn't play nice with the X800 (R430)?  My screen just goes to gibberish when I try to use those drivers and, until I manually change the xorg.conf, it reverts to the "failsafe" mode of "low resoliution"
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883: running an ipod test now
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> finally got my ffmpeg squared up, got a version from superm1's ppa that was old and shouldn't have been there
[21:50] <tgm4883> has anyone seen my bluetooth adapter?
[21:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> prob right in front of your face, thats where things I can't find are normally hiding
[21:52] <tgm4883> nope, already checked there
[21:56] <npurciful> in your hand
[21:57] <npurciful> i sometimes am holding the object that i am looking for and cant findit
[21:59] <tgm4883> your name isn't jessica is it?
[21:59] <directhex> SHE's married to roger rabbit?
[22:14] <joecurlee> hi all... i am running ubuntu 7.10. Just installed mythtv via synaptic and when I try to run the front end i get "database configuration 1/2. Myth could not connect to the database. please verify your database settings below."
[22:15] <joecurlee> i'm using host: localhost, database: mythconverg, user: mythtv, my supplied password, and MySQL for the database type
[22:15] <joecurlee> any help would be awesome as I'm finding a lack of content via google
[22:16] <directhex> "supplied" how, exactly?
[22:16] <joecurlee> on installation i was given a password
[22:16] <directhex> did you definitely install a backend AND frontend, and have mysql installed?
[22:16] <joecurlee> "generated password for this machine is" etc.
[22:16] <joecurlee> yes
[22:16] <joecurlee> backend is running right now
[22:17] <joecurlee> when i run sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start
[22:17] <tgm4883> try 127.0.0.1
[22:17] <directhex> and 'mysql -umythtv -hlocalhost -p mythconverg' in a console works fine?
[22:17] <joecurlee> i get "mythbackend already running, use restart instead."
[22:17] <joecurlee> ok
[22:19] <joecurlee> hmm access denied
[22:21] <directhex> the plot thickens
[22:21] <joecurlee> very odd
[22:21] <tgm4883> did you check conectivity in mcc?
[22:22] <joecurlee> ok apparently i need root for the user and my system pw
[22:23] <joecurlee> however the db mythconverg doesn't exist
[22:23] <tgm4883> did you have a mysql server previously to installing mythtv?
[22:23] <directhex> someone set a mysql root password, methinks
[22:24] <directhex> which breaks mythtv-database
[22:24] <joecurlee> actually i might have... i tried to reinstall once before but that was a bit of a blur as i was partially drunk and i thought i wiped my system sometime afterwards
[22:24] <directhex> well. installation thereof
[22:24] <MnDBnDr> What is the default size of the root partition?
[22:24] <directhex> MnDBnDr, as large as you ask for, minus about 500 meg
[22:25] <directhex> joecurlee, okay, try this. 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow mythtv-database'. if memory serves, it should ask your mysql root password when it ballses up
[22:25] <MnDBnDr> What size does the installer choose?
[22:26] <joecurlee> ok trying now
[22:26] <tgm4883> MnDBnDr, the installer formats the entire drive to 2 partitions, 1 for swap, 1 for /
[22:26] <MnDBnDr> I have /myth mounted on an LVM now using Knoppmyth and want to switch to Mythbuntu without loosing my LVM
[22:26] <tgm4883> although you can use manual configuration
[22:26] <MnDBnDr> problem is my / is only 4.7gb now
[22:27] <directhex> MnDBnDr, you have complete control of this stuff, you know
[22:27] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:27] <tgm4883> that is pretty low
[22:27] <tgm4883> i usually do around 12Gb
[22:27] <directhex> 5 gig for /? that's plenty!
[22:27] <MnDBnDr> yeah, just checking that the total install in / is not too big.  Just in case I have to resize
[22:27] <tgm4883> oh
[22:27] <directhex> christ, mythbuntu installed i can't see as bigger than 3 gig
[22:27] <tgm4883> then what am I thinking?
[22:28] <tgm4883> oh wait, thats just my rule of thumb for regular ubuntu installs
[22:28] <directhex> you only need a big / if you don't have a separate /usr/local and you install ut2004 :)
[22:28] <tgm4883> which would be me :)
[22:28] <directhex> and doom3, and quake 4, and you get the idea
[22:28] <joecurlee> directhex: thanks that worked
[22:28] <tgm4883> I only do a seperate /home
[22:29] <tgm4883> and a seperate /var/lib if it's a mythtv system
[22:29] <directhex> joecurlee, i am so smrt! now, you really want to run mythtv-setup
[22:29] <MnDBnDr> ok.  So I have a 5gb / and a 2gb swap and a 1.3tb lvm with Knoppmyth.  Do you suggest resizing my LVM to free up some space?
[22:29] <MnDBnDr> only 350gb is in use in the LVM
[22:30] <directhex> MnDBnDr, like i said, 3 is more than enough for /
[22:30] <joecurlee> cool doing that now
[22:30] <MnDBnDr> including /var/lib and /usr/local?
[22:30] <MnDBnDr> in /
[22:31] <joecurlee> when asked for ip address, would it be better to enter localhost as this address might change?
[22:31] <directhex> MnDBnDr, if you don't use the default recordings dir, /var/lib isn't a problem
[22:31] <directhex> joecurlee, if it asks for an ip, it needs an ip
[22:31] <joecurlee> k
[22:31] <MnDBnDr> i use /myth for all myth media
[22:31] <MnDBnDr> mounted on lvm
[22:31] <directhex> joecurlee, if you mean mythtv-setup, it needs an ip so it knows which interface to listen on (hostnames aren't interface-specific)
[22:32] <MnDBnDr> thx guys
[22:32] <directhex> joecurlee, if your network shuffles around a lot, then go for 127.0.0.1 if you don't want networked access, or set a static ip if you do
[22:33] <joecurlee> cool i'll go with that
[22:34] <joecurlee> one other question: I don't want to mess with video sources yet... is that required before testing out mythtv?
[22:43] <directhex> no, but a functional backend really is. even if it's functional and empty
[22:43] <directhex> your backend would have been Sad without the database
[22:44] <joecurlee> lol right
[22:44] <joecurlee> yea i think the backend is working now
[22:44] <joecurlee> i'm scanning for channels... not sure if this is going to work
[22:44] <joecurlee> i've spent hours upon hours on my current setup trying to tweak things
[22:45] <joecurlee> bah! scan yielded no results... no message either
[22:54] <szakulec> anyone here have a better way to record from the vcr than cat /dev/video0 >movie.mpg ?
[23:05] <joecurlee_> ugh so far so bad... mythtv frontend and backend running, but no video... can't find any channels when scanning, and if i try to "watch tv" i get a message telling me that the tuner is already being used for recording.
[23:59] <npurciful> err, that pisses me off
[23:59] <directhex> what, levander joining? i agree