| ubotu | New bug: #193111 in xserver-xorg-video-unichrome (universe) "Unsupported VT3371" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193111 | 01:36 |
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| Q-FUNK | guys, are we including the CPUID patch from bug #180742 for Hardy? | 08:18 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180742 in xorg-server "xf86-video-amd: switching to a vcons fails" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180742 | 08:18 |
| Q-FUNK | it's the last of 3 x86emu patches needed to bring x86emu back into line. | 08:19 |
| ubotu | New bug: #193192 in xorg (main) "DPMS is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193192 | 08:40 |
| tjaalton | Q-FUNK: I'll add it today | 08:43 |
| * tjaalton drops eyes to the floor... ati 6.8.0 released | 08:44 | |
| tjaalton | sheesh | 08:44 |
| Q-FUNK | thanks! | 08:46 |
| Q-FUNK | hehe | 08:46 |
| bryce | heya | 08:51 |
| Q-FUNK | hey :) | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | bryce: I guess we want the new ati in hardy?-) Unstable already has it, I'm looking at the merge or sync | 08:53 |
| bryce | tjaalton: yeah probably, but we should review the changelog to get a sense of the proportion of new features to bug fixes | 08:55 |
| bryce | and also testing results of course... if there's a lot of confirmed bug fixes, we definitely want it | 08:55 |
| tjaalton | it's a stable release, we have a six weeks old snapshot.. :) | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | sorry, eight weeks | 08:56 |
| bryce | yes quite true | 08:56 |
| ubotu | New bug: #193198 in xorg (main) "Screen errors in ATI Mobility Radeon X700 in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193198 | 09:06 |
| tjaalton | we should be able to sync it | 09:08 |
| tjaalton | the only patch is from upstream | 09:09 |
| bryce | ok | 09:09 |
| tjaalton | Ng: upstream want's you to try git master to fix the graphics bugs with 855 | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | -' | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | well, the last commit on the stable branch | 09:12 |
| tjaalton | http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=aa1813e4807e500fb122f36af988cf60f91e05a5;hp=1cea254b70158600d9dfff8ba66fb2ec0a6e0f67 | 09:12 |
| Ng | tjaalton: can I build that independently of xorg* | 09:17 |
| Ng | +? | 09:17 |
| bryce | Ng, yup | 09:18 |
| * Ng installs git | 09:18 | |
| Ng | is it just git co http://thaturl ? | 09:18 |
| tjaalton | just wget that patch and apply it on the packages | 09:18 |
| tjaalton | -s | 09:18 |
| tjaalton | or build the git version | 09:19 |
| tjaalton | and copy the drv.so | 09:19 |
| Ng | aha | 09:19 |
| ubotu | New bug: #149479 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Graphic set-up is problematic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149479 | 09:20 |
| mvo | tjaalton: I would like to talk to you about the fglrx issue when they drop support for cards (you filed a update-manager bug about it). do we have a list of pci ids available of the cards that are supported or where support got dropped? | 09:20 |
| Ng | hmm, don't spose anyone still has a copy of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.2.0+git20080107-1ubuntu2 lying around, do they? if this doesn't work I'd like to be able to revert back to the working driver ;) | 09:22 |
| bryce | Ng, the (probably crude) approach I've taken when working with git drivers, when done is to do apt-get remove <driver>; apt-get install <driver>. | 09:24 |
| bryce | there's probably a cleaner solution tho | 09:24 |
| tjaalton | mvo: hmm, what bug #? | 09:24 |
| bryce | I believe you can do apt-get install <driver>=<version> or something to force it to a particular version | 09:25 |
| Ng | bryce: sure, but aiui, older packages get purged from the archive, so apt won't be able to find it | 09:26 |
| saispo | hi | 09:27 |
| bryce | Ng, ahh, yes that's true | 09:27 |
| bryce | saispo: heya! | 09:27 |
| mvo | tjaalton: #110388 you reassigned this one to update-manager on saturday | 09:27 |
| saispo | :) | 09:27 |
| saispo | little question: anyone know how can i do not invoke xorg postinst in gutsy installer ? because it build a xorg.conf automatically and i don't want it :) | 09:28 |
| bryce | saispo: there isn't a way to suppress the initial generation of it, however you should be able to delete it at any point during install by switching to a terminal console and deleting it. (Perhaps I misunderstand what you need tho.) | 09:30 |
| tjaalton | mvo: oh that one | 09:30 |
| saispo | bryce: yes, i see no other solution :| | 09:30 |
| saispo | bryce: you see right ;) | 09:31 |
| saispo | bryce: i will use a d-i command for doing this | 09:31 |
| bryce | saispo: if you have X trouble during installation, another workaround is to use the alternate install CD, which does a text-mode install | 09:31 |
| saispo | thanks | 09:31 |
| bryce | sure | 09:31 |
| saispo | bryce: i use this, but it's for a custom distro | 09:31 |
| saispo | bryce: with feisty i have no trouble | 09:31 |
| tjaalton | mvo: lrm includes the modules.alias.override -files which could be used | 09:31 |
| bryce | ah | 09:31 |
| Q-FUNK | seb128: could you tell me what was the name of the gnome componet that draws the bacground image? | 09:33 |
| tjaalton | nautilus? | 09:33 |
| seb128 | Q-FUNK: depends, gnome-control-center or nautilus | 09:33 |
| seb128 | what is the issue? | 09:33 |
| tjaalton | bryce: do I file the sync request for ati? | 09:34 |
| bryce | tjaalton: sure go for it | 09:34 |
| tjaalton | ok cool | 09:34 |
| Q-FUNK | seb128: zoom image behavior changed. it used to center and zoom, now it left-aligns and zooms | 09:34 |
| Q-FUNK | seb128: in hardy | 09:35 |
| seb128 | not sure, you can open it on gnome-control-center if you want, attach an example to the bug maybe, I don't notice the issue on my installation | 09:36 |
| Q-FUNK | seb128: I tried both with the left-click option on the dektop and with the appearnce dialog. the result is the same in both cases. | 09:37 |
| * Ng goes with a ghetto solution of tarring up the contents of the current working package ;) | 09:38 | |
| seb128 | Q-FUNK: the left click option starts the appearance capplet | 09:40 |
| Q-FUNK | seb128: ok | 09:43 |
| tjaalton | Ng: just copying intel_drv.so is enough | 09:46 |
| * Ng lost in a sea of version numbers. I want to be building 2.2.0.90, right? | 10:10 | |
| ubotu | New bug: #193211 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Please sync a new version from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193211 | 10:11 |
| tjaalton | Ng: yes, and the patch on top of that | 10:12 |
| Ng | hmm, then I reckon it's working. I thought I'd built the previous snapshot version that was working, but I seem to have build 2.2.0.90. I'd like to try again with absolutely-definitely-guaranteed pristine source though ;) | 10:14 |
| tjaalton | ah :) | 10:14 |
| Ng | I have some hardy updates to apply first too | 10:19 |
| bryce | tjaalton: wow, long changelog for -ati. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it's stable | 10:59 |
| tjaalton | sure it is | 11:07 |
| bryce | night | 11:13 |
| ubotu | New bug: #193233 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "nvidia api mismatch when installing nvidia-glx-new" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193233 | 11:20 |
| * Ng up to date. building driver again... | 11:25 | |
| tjaalton | bryce: btw, the changelog was 6.6.3 -> 6.8.0, so it's considerably shorter for 6.7.197 -> 6.8.0 | 15:24 |
| ubotu | New bug: #193323 in xserver-xorg-video-cirrus (universe) "x fails to startup in qemu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193323 | 16:01 |
| ubotu | New bug: #187645 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Evolution calendar consumes 100% CPU with mouse-over info" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187645 | 16:36 |
| seb128 | I reassigned this evolution calendar issue | 16:51 |
| seb128 | that's basically cairo rendering being slow on fglrx when not using composite | 16:51 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's cairo, xorg or the driver to blame though | 16:51 |
| Ng | tjaalton: it looks to me like that patch works | 17:04 |
| Ng | either that or I'm utterly confused about versions ;) | 17:04 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ahh, that explains it | 17:05 |
| tjaalton | Ng: cool, I'll let upstream know | 17:23 |
| Ng | :) | 17:23 |
| Ng | can has a new upload with the patch? :D | 17:23 |
| tjaalton | just apt-get reinstall the driver to see it really was the patch that fixed it? | 17:24 |
| tjaalton | we'll see :) | 17:24 |
| Ng | I'll do the reinstall when I get home (couple of hours) | 17:25 |
| Ng | I'd prefer not to break things while I'm working ;) | 17:25 |
| tjaalton | heh, ok | 17:28 |
| ubotu | New bug: #192994 in xorg (main) "X doesnt shut down. Requires CTRL ALT BACKSPACE to kill it so it can shut down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192994 | 18:53 |
| ubotu | New bug: #193419 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "External monitor loss - intel 945" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193419 | 20:01 |
| mvo | bryce, tjaalton: what is the latest status with regard to i965 and exa/xaa ? I got some mails asking about this for compiz and I was wondering if there is a decision about this yet | 20:22 |
| bryce | mvo, in fact I'm just now working on my patch for it | 20:23 |
| bryce | mvo, so I should have more news by the end of the day | 20:24 |
| mvo | bryce: the patch that makes it happy with exa? | 20:24 |
| bryce | yes | 20:24 |
| mvo | thanks | 20:24 |
| tjaalton | well, 965 | 20:24 |
| tjaalton | but the rest should use XAA | 20:25 |
| bryce | tjaalton: aside from my patch, is there anything else we need to do to ensure <965 are using XAA? | 20:25 |
| mvo | I have still distorted window shadows on the 965, but I guess you know about this, right? | 20:25 |
| mvo | <i965 should be fine, as long as the patch I did for gutsy to use the hardware overlay for Xv is still applied | 20:26 |
| mvo | (compiz-wise all should be fine for those) | 20:26 |
| tjaalton | bryce: yes, there's a commit which switched EXA on, so revert that and then add to your patch the rule to use EXA for 965 | 20:26 |
| bryce | yup, in fact that's what I'm using to check if this is working | 20:26 |
| bryce | mvo, I have a simple patch to fix those borders which has been tested to work, but if this greedy patch solves it, we don't need that patch | 20:27 |
| * mvo nods | 20:27 | |
| bryce | tjaalton: hmm, sounds like I'll need to also do a patch to force EXA for 965... currently I just check if both those are enabled, and then turn on greedy too | 20:27 |
| mvo | great, thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to it | 20:28 |
| tjaalton | mvo: ah so it was your patch :) | 20:28 |
| tjaalton | bryce: right | 20:28 |
| mvo | tjaalton: eh, did it broke anything :) ? | 20:28 |
| tjaalton | mvo: no, I was just wondering where it came from :) | 20:28 |
| mvo | aha, ok :) | 20:29 |
| mvo | I think we talked about it when I uploaded the packages, but it was a while ago. it bugged me to no end that i965 wouldn't work, until I discovered that the hardware is missing | 20:29 |
| mvo | yeah for no docs from intel (fixed now fortunately) | 20:29 |
| bryce | there's an article on lwn complaining that the community invests more resources in things like reverse engineering nvidia drivers where there aren't docs, and none in -intel where there are (now) plenty of docs. | 20:32 |
| bryce | I don't know if I would agree there - I suspect it's just that Intel ends up hiring everyone that works on -intel ;-) - but an interesting point of view | 20:32 |
| pwnguin | id argue as well that nvidia drivers are more valuable | 20:36 |
| pwnguin | given that the chips are more capable | 20:36 |
| bryce | pwnguin: do you mean because of nvidia's hardware performance potential? | 20:36 |
| pwnguin | yea | 20:37 |
| pwnguin | unless intel has some magic i havent read about since i last went laptop shopping | 20:37 |
| bryce | whoohoo!! | 20:38 |
| Q-FUNK | intel voodoo incantation required. | 20:38 |
| bryce | think I got it working... | 20:38 |
| bryce | yup :-) | 20:38 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ok with my greedy patch, borders are now correct, and I've verified greedy is turned on for 965 | 20:39 |
| bryce | tjaalton: what else do we need to check? | 20:39 |
| tjaalton | that should be enough for now, if it forces EXA as well? | 20:43 |
| bryce | no I still need to code up that patch | 20:43 |
| bryce | first want to finish up this one and get it in | 20:43 |
| bryce | I figure I'll do the two things as separate patches so it'll be easier to drop one or the other independently in the future if we need to | 20:44 |
| tjaalton | sure | 20:44 |
| bryce | hmm, doesn't fix the glxgears issue but I guess that's separate. Movie playback is a lot better | 20:46 |
| tjaalton | what issue? | 20:46 |
| tjaalton | btw, someone said that setting EXNoComposite true would improve the performance, but I couldn't tell the difference | 20:47 |
| bryce | the issue is, run glxgears, then move the window, and it doesn't clear the screen properly | 20:50 |
| tjaalton | isn't that true for all free drivers atm?-) | 20:51 |
| tjaalton | maybe the cleanup works with xaa though | 20:52 |
| bryce | oh is it? I didn't see it on gutsy with -ati, but maybe it's a 1.4 issue? | 20:52 |
| bryce | oh and I'm not running compiz, duh | 20:52 |
| tjaalton | ah | 20:52 |
| mvo | bryce: that is unfortunately a known issue with compiz :( | 20:56 |
| mvo | we tried to come up with a workaround, but its (unsurprisingly) pretty difficult | 20:57 |
| bryce | hmm, this is odd - I rebooted my 965 laptop without installing any greedy patched versions, which had the tearing issue and so forth, and now I cannot reproduce the issues | 20:59 |
| tjaalton | using the defaults? | 21:02 |
| bryce | I think so... doing some more testing... | 21:03 |
| ubotu | New bug: #193458 in xinit (main) "Xsession fails due to an incorrect COLUMNS value" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193458 | 21:12 |
| bryce | btw, here are the deb's I just tested, which seem to work: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/Greedy/ | 21:13 |
| bryce | so far testing is confirming it, but would be nice for independent verification | 21:15 |
| bryce | performance seems about the same either way, hm | 21:17 |
| tjaalton | try scrolling in firefox | 21:19 |
| bryce | ok | 21:21 |
| bryce | ah, nastiness | 21:21 |
| bryce | aha, ok all issues reproduced on test hw without patch... now trying with patched driver... | 21:22 |
| bryce | ahhh, yes that's much better | 21:23 |
| bryce | cool even the screen tearing's gone | 21:23 |
| soren | Did something get updated in gutsy relatively recently that could cause my wife's laptop's X to die a few times of day? | 21:33 |
| tjaalton | only the security patches a month ago | 21:41 |
| tjaalton | hm, unless the intel driver got in updates | 21:41 |
| bryce | don't think that's happened | 21:43 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ok, the xserver patch portion of the fix is ready to be uploaded: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/ | 21:47 |
| tjaalton | 3 is uploaded already ;) | 21:48 |
| bryce | hmm, apt-get source only pulled a 2 for me | 21:51 |
| tjaalton | I uploaded it earlier today | 21:55 |
| bryce | ok, here is an xserver 1ubuntu3, and -intel 2ubuntu5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/ | 21:57 |
| bryce | could you upload both of those? Next I'll do the force-exa-on-for-965 patch | 21:57 |
| tjaalton | sure | 22:05 |
| bryce | hrm | 22:15 |
| Ng | tjaalton: ok, that patch is needed, it stops the weird 16-bit look-a-like pixmaps | 22:22 |
| Ng | (which seems to affect 2d and 3d, weirdly) | 22:22 |
| Ng | I see it on the ubuntu logo in gdm and on the photo icons on my desktop without the patch | 22:23 |
| Ng | (I also tried with/without the migration config bits in xorg.conf) | 22:23 |
| tjaalton | Ng: thanks, I'll add that to the upstream bug | 22:25 |
| bryce | tjaalton: oh, hmm I forgot, but maybe the depends for -intel should be increased to require that newer xserver | 22:26 |
| Ng | tjaalton: is there likely to be another upstream drop into hardy before release? | 22:26 |
| bryce | I've got the xaa-default-except-i965 patch ready to go, I'll roll that depends update into it too if that sounds good to you | 22:26 |
| tjaalton | Ng: likely | 22:26 |
| Ng | groovy | 22:27 |
| Ng | hmm, I don't remember if I actually filed that as a bug | 22:29 |
| bryce | tjaalton: could you remind me why we prefer XAA for <i965? stability or performance? | 22:29 |
| tjaalton | performance | 22:30 |
| tjaalton | Ng: yep you did | 22:30 |
| tjaalton | Ng: I'll apply the patch on our intel for now | 22:30 |
| Ng | k | 22:31 |
| Ng | wrt XAA/EXA, subjectively i think EXA is as fast on 855 with the greedy migration doodad | 22:31 |
| tjaalton | hmm | 22:31 |
| tjaalton | maybe it doesn't hurt to let alpha5 be with EXA+greedy for all | 22:32 |
| bryce | could be, although iirc there are some hardware specificness for EXA performance | 22:34 |
| tjaalton | it would be nice to not go back to xaa | 22:35 |
| tjaalton | if possible | 22:35 |
| tjaalton | I mean staying as close to upstream as possible | 22:36 |
| bryce | ok, well I'm almost done with the revert back to xaa by default except i965 patch... let me complete that | 22:38 |
| bryce | ...ok done - http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/ 2ubuntu6 | 22:39 |
| bryce | hmm | 22:39 |
| bryce | oh, btw I built the above but didn't test to ensure it goes to xaa on <965 | 22:40 |
| bryce | but the patch looked very straightforward, I'd be surprised if it didn't do exactly what's intended | 22:40 |
| bryce | oh crap, I forgot to update the depends... one sec | 22:41 |
| tjaalton | of the driver? | 22:42 |
| tjaalton | I can do it locally | 22:42 |
| bryce | yeah | 22:42 |
| bryce | oh okay cool | 22:42 |
| tjaalton | although | 22:43 |
| bryce | if we even want to do that... the driver will build and work against older 1.4 drivers, just will not be using greedy in that case | 22:43 |
| tjaalton | right | 22:43 |
| bryce | so yeah, probably no need to change depends I guess | 22:43 |
| tjaalton | yep, so I'll just upload this one | 22:43 |
| tjaalton | man, I hope all those drm fixes are backported to the hardy kernel.. should fix a number of intel suspend/resume/hibernation issues | 22:48 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ok! I've uploaded a third patch which would do greedy for ALL chipsets, to bug 177492 | 22:59 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177492 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "EXA is balls-achingly slow" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177492 | 22:59 |
| bryce | tjaalton: all else being equal, I think shipping all-EXA on would be ideal, however I'm not sure what effect turning greedy on for everyone would have | 23:01 |
| bryce | tjaalton: but all the patches now exist to take whichever route seems best | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | at least 945 suffers from performance issues | 23:02 |
| bryce | with greedy? | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | I uploaded ubuntu6, so 965 should be covered now | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | ah no, with plain EXA | 23:02 |
| bryce | ok cool; will those bugs auto-close or should I mark them fix released myself? | 23:03 |
| tjaalton | they'll auto-close | 23:03 |
| bryce | okie. --> lunch | 23:04 |
| tjaalton | hmm, I wonder if 'dput -u foo' was enough, I can't see those packages on the list yet | 23:23 |
| tjaalton | instead all vdr plugins are there, and those were uploaded a few minutes ago | 23:24 |
| tjaalton | anyway, time to get some sleep.. night! | 23:25 |
| Ng | cya tjaalton | 23:25 |
| ubotu | New bug: #69082 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Screen goes blank regardless (dup-of: 30969)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69082 | 23:30 |
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