[00:00] <NigelS> lllsondowlll: from there you can run your cmd line tests
[00:00] <lllsondowlll> does this command look right? syrus recommened it "sudo nano /ect/x11/xorg.conf
[00:00] <Led_Zeppelin> is there a sound detection utility for Ubuntu?
 Have you installed glx driver ?
[00:00] <lllsondowlll> he said to change it from nv/nvidia to vesa Is that a wise choice?
[00:01] <test__> nvidia is right
[00:01] <neverblue> Led_Zeppelin, u can use alsamixer to view the 'levels' of the current audio...
[00:01] <NigelS> lllsondowlll: that will put it in a bootable state
[00:01] <test__> but iam not shure
[00:01] <lllsondowlll> I haven't installed anything like I said I can't get a good video past the loading screen
[00:01] <NigelS> test__: have you even read his problem?
[00:01] <xerxes1358> danbhfive: I am prett y newb in linux
[00:01] <test__> okay
[00:01] <test__> mom
[00:01] <Led_Zeppelin> neverblue, want to make sure it detects my sound card first. I know it works, just not working now...
[00:01] <Cyr4x> how to set up blue path and green computer name in .bashrc?
[00:01] <NigelS> lllsondowlll: yeah, in the recovery console select the vesa driver and then you will have graphics, from there you can try and work out why it didn't work to begin with
[00:01] <test__> load the vesa and start x server and install priporetiy driver ?!?
[00:02] <Led_Zeppelin> neverblue, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[00:02] <NigelS> lllsondowlll: nvidia cards should work correctly
[00:02] <k4k_> can someone tell me what the password for sudo is on a live cd?
[00:02] <test__> after that you can normal boot
[00:02] <neverblue> Led_Zeppelin, lspci will tel you if your soundcard is recognized... (please dont post any output from a command in the channel, use pastebin)
[00:02] <test__> when not dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and configure right settings
[00:02] <Cyr4x> k4k - no password
[00:02] <meekolope> !lspci
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:02] <danbhfive> xerxes1358: can you run gparted in the live environment?  Can you access the net?  you gota answer at least some of my questions, otherwise, I can't help ya
[00:02] <Cyr4x> just klick enter and it should work
[00:02] <lllsondowlll> If nvidia cards should work correctly then why am I getting odd lines and colors when I boot into ubuntu 7.10?
try   ubuntu
[00:03] <k4k_> Cyr4x: then how do you do sudo commands, I tried not putting in a password
[00:03] <Cyr4x> sudo command
[00:03] <k4k_> I've tried ubuntu, password, root, notroot, admin
[00:03] <danbhfive> xerxes1358: I would try a cd instead of a dvd if you can, cds are more reliable
 Yes
[00:03] <Cyr4x> and press enter when it asks for a password
[00:03] <Led_Zeppelin> neverblue, right. Its there.
[00:03] <Cyr4x> forks fine in kubuntu 7.10 live
[00:03] <k4k_> Cyr4x: I did that, it no work
[00:03] <NigelS> lllsondowlll: I can't explain that atm - you shouldn't be; when you get into gnome we can try and get the restricted driver working
[00:03] <icesword> Cyr4x is right
[00:03] <neverblue> Led_Zeppelin, did it work before, did you change something?
[00:03] <k4k_> then wtf
[00:03] <NigelS> test__: what?
[00:03] <cfedde> k4k_: have you tried your own password?
[00:04] <Pricey> !ohmy | k4k_
[00:04] <ubotu> k4k_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:04] <leeping2009> Hi there, when I am cloning systems with systemimager I'm getting kernel panics.  What do you think the issue could be?
[00:04] <Cyr4x> try passwd root your_password
[00:04] <prince_jammys> red22: i got something that might work
[00:04] <Cyr4x> and then type it in sudo
[00:04] <Led_Zeppelin> neverblue, http://pastebin.com/d75b5b42a
[00:04] <lllsondowlll> Alright well. I need to leave the irc to go run the command. Reason being is I am dual booting windows on this machine.
[00:04] <k4k_> Pricey: I didn't realize that was a bad word...
[00:04] <test__> NigelS:I have the Problehm also....   ||       Who is the Keyring saved as File???
[00:04] <red22> prince_jammys: i'm all ears/eyes
[00:04] <k4k_> it's a live cd...why would my password work?
[00:04] <Led_Zeppelin> neverblue, not sure what changed...but when I first installed Ubuntu sound was working...
[00:04] <prince_jammys> red22: i'll paste in a moment, want to test
[00:04] <unagi_> prince_jammys: are you here?
[00:04] <unagi_> ah there you are
[00:04] <neverblue> Led_Zeppelin, was it possibly a recent update?
[00:05] <prince_jammys> unagi_: yes
[00:05] <unagi_> any idea why my mouse buttons are reversed?
[00:05] <Led_Zeppelin> neverblue, yep, could be
[00:05] <lllsondowlll> Anything else I should know before I leave here?
[00:05] <Led_Zeppelin> i did do an upgrade neverblue
[00:05] <neverblue> Led_Zeppelin, I just had someone in here about an hour ago... same issue
[00:05] <neverblue> Led_Zeppelin, seems that latest kernel upgrade made some sound devices act buggy
[00:05] <Dflamingo> Haha!
[00:05] <Dflamingo> Guess what?
[00:05] <lllsondowlll> Alright, if thats it then I am off to try this again.
[00:06] <Led_Zeppelin> oh great
[00:06] <Dflamingo> No one gonna guess?
[00:06] <Dflamingo> ._.
[00:06] <safiyyah> hi all, I have installed something from the synaptic package manager and it isn't in any of the menus and the search facility returns nothing, how do I bring it up?
[00:06] <neverblue> Led_Zeppelin, not sure what to tell you, but you can check the forums...
[00:06] <neverblue> !enter | Dflamingo
[00:06] <ubotu> Dflamingo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:06] <jonnymac> any chance anyone would know how to get USB speakers to work in VLC & firefox, plz? I've tried what I can but am ubuntly challenged
[00:06] <voltel> hello, i've been digging through dmesg's output and found an error i do not recognize. could someone please explain whats this error means? ACPI Error (psargs-0355): [\CFGD] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND
[00:06] <Dflamingo> I just installed Ubuntu
[00:07] <arbir> i cannot change my window border style with the control buttons.. what ever theme i choose, those dont want to change
[00:07] <karleeto> OT: (all of #irssi is idle) i nned a quick easy hand on something. im using a sidekick mobile phone, and the ssh app im using only has white bg/black fg colors, is there a way to change to a default theme or something to make this more tollerable to use with these colors?
[00:07] <k4k_> Cyr4x: just out of curiosity. Would it make a difference if I used remastersys to make my own dist and am on that live cd as to what the password is?
[00:07] <arbir> Is there a way to reset everything and start from scratch ?
[00:07] <arbir> without re-installing :-(
[00:08] <Cyr4x> can be
[00:08] <Cyr4x> on default live cd there is no root password
[00:08] <t0ny-p40> From the command line how do I stop gnome from automatically logging in?
[00:08] <Cyr4x> but if you do it own...
[00:09] <arbir> Cyr4x: can you help me please ?
[00:09] <arfonzo> hi all, how do I remove xserver, ubuntu-desktop, and everything related (everything X related)
[00:09] <egc> is there a limit to the file size of a tarball?
[00:09] <Cyr4x> you want to reset all your cfg?
[00:09] <neverblue> arbir that would be a re-installation....
[00:09] <paul___> penis
[00:09] <egc> sorry, i should say what is the limit
[00:09] <Cyr4x> or have clean system as just after install?
[00:09] <paul___>  fuck you bitch
[00:09] <arbir> neverblue: i installed a new theme yesterday
[00:09] <credible> !ops | paul___
[00:09] <ubotu> paul___: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[00:09] <paul___> waffle?
[00:09] <Waffle> yeah?
[00:10] <safiyyah> tony-p40 I know how to do it on the gnome GUI is that any good to you?
[00:10] <arbir> neverblue:  and now, i dont have a way to get back the default human theme..
[00:10] <leeping2009> Hi there: What's the meaning of RIP and RSP? It's an error that's occurring when I'm trying to clone systems...
[00:10] <unagi_> what maps the mouse buttons in ubuntu
[00:10] <arbir> neverblue: when i change the theme, everything changes, excepting the window control bar
[00:10] <leeping2009> It's also happening when I try to install an operating system.  Could it be bad sectors on the hard drive??
[00:10] <Waffle> paul__: what?
[00:10] <neverblue> arbir, im not helping, sorry
[00:10] <LjL> Waffle, he's long gone.
[00:10] <fafaforza> unagi_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:10] <Cyr4x> arbir just delete your gnome configuration from home
[00:10] <Waffle> that was weird
[00:11] <arbir> Cyr4x: how do i do that ?
[00:11] <credible> arbir: are you using emerald?
[00:11] <Waffle> anyway, anybody here know a way to put the GIMP into a single window?
[00:11] <arbir> credible:  i tried to make my config like leopard
[00:11] <Cyr4x> delete ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[00:11] <asdasdas> Somebody Help Me...
[00:11] <Cyr4x> it should work
[00:11] <LjL> !gimpshop > waffle    (waffle, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:11] <credible> Cyr4x: that won't help if he's using compiz and emerald :)
[00:11] <arbir> credible: now, nothing can get back my original window bar with the control buttons
[00:11] <credible> arbir: uninstall emerald
[00:11] <Cyr4x> so what?
[00:11] <credible> if you're using that
[00:11] <unagi_> about what line fafaforza
[00:11] <Cyr4x> compiz doesn't manage gtk2 themes
[00:11] <arbir> credible: yes yes, i think i installed emerald
[00:12] <credible> arbir: get rid of it
[00:12] <arbir> credible: how come emerald is creating such probs
[00:12] <credible> Cyr4x: his problem is that his titlebars aren't changing
[00:12] <arbir> is un-installing emerald....
[00:12] <credible> arbir: because emerald doesn't use your gnome theme, it has its own theme format
[00:12] <fafaforza> I'm not really an expert on setting the mouse, you should look it up on google, you should be able to search for Mouse or Pointer within the file to see th erelevant stuff
[00:12] <Cyr4x> LjL this feature is only in windows gimpshop
[00:12] <karleeto> OT: (all of #irssi is idle) i nned a quick easy hand on something. im using a sidekick mobile phone, and the ssh app im using only has white bg/black fg colors, is there a way to change to a default theme or something to make this more tollerable to use with these colors?
[00:12] <credible> arbir: in Alt+f2, run: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[00:13] <credible> that'll fix it for your current session
[00:14] <arbir> credible: awesome. it worked like magic... how do you know these kind of commands ?
[00:14] <ogre> hey guys. i dropped my external hd and broke it. I have all my music on there. is there anyway to retrieve what I have on my ipod on put on new hd?
[00:14] <arbir> any doc page for this./. i would love to lap it up
[00:14] <LjL> Cyr4x, Waffle: my bad
[00:14] <leeping2009> RIP / RSP appear to be a type of segfault on AMD systems, what are the implications?
[00:14] <leeping2009> Why would I be getting segfaults when cloning a system?
[00:14] <Waffle> LjL: ?
[00:14] <mneptok> ogre: all your music is backed up on the iPod?
[00:15] <arbir> ogre: if i am on windows, i use winamp to move files to and fro from ipod
[00:15] <LjL> Waffle: gimpshop wasn't a correct answer to your question, as was pointed out
[00:15] <NemesisD> whats the default username and password for ubuntu installations?
[00:15] <arbir> ogre: in linux, i think rythmbox should do the trick
[00:15] <Cyr4x> that's no. 1 feature to implement in gimp
[00:15] <Waffle> i was wondering about that
[00:15] <arfonzo> ... any help for removing all X-related packages?
[00:15] <LjL> NemesisD: actually, it asks you to select them during installation
[00:15] <Cyr4x> there were many mockups on gimp forums
[00:15] <ogre> mneptok:  well i have all the music stored on ipod. i just need to get it back off there somehow
[00:15] <mneptok> NemesisD: whatever you choose
[00:15] <Cyr4x> maybe in 2.6 or 3...
[00:16] <red22> prince_jammys: no luck?
[00:16] <NemesisD> LjL, its kind of a special case because im referring to a persistent installation on a flash drive
[00:16] <mneptok> ogre: you can switch the iPod connection setting so that it appears as a standard mass storage device. that way you don;t need iTunes.
[00:16] <owh> I'm trying to make an Atheros 5007EG/ar242x wifi card work under gutsy. I suspect that installing the svn trunk from madwifi will work, but I want it installed in such a way that I can upgrade it when a new Ubuntu version comes out - any suggestions?
[00:16] <LjL> NemesisD: on the live CD, the username is "ubuntu" and the password is ""
[00:16] <prince_jammys> red22: getting there
[00:16] <credible> arbir: in compiz, there are two decorators you can use, gtk-window-decorator is the default one that uses your gnome theme, emerald is another one that has "flashier" themes
[00:16] <egc> mneptok: if you do that, do the menus still work?
[00:17] <NemesisD> LjL, thats a space?
[00:17] <arbir> credible: how come its so complicated.....
[00:17] <Waffle> i tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240543 but i cant get it to work
[00:17] <mneptok> egc: AFAIK it doesn't affect the iPod functionality at all. dunno about iTunes.
[00:17] <Jangari> is there a forum on starting a window session on a remote server?
[00:17] <icesword> ...
[00:17] <ogre> mneptok:  nice. i dont have windows or osx anyways. is the setting in the ipod itself to change how it behaves when plugged in?
[00:17] <egc> mneptok: cool
[00:17] <mneptok> ogre: on the iPod itself, i think.
[00:17] <Jangari> as in gui version of ssh tunneling into a server
[00:17] <arbir> credible: i was playing around with themes and this happened yesterday.. but i still have a problem in identifying the current window from the taskbar
[00:18] <lllsondowlll> Well that didn't work, I got to the command line screen and typed in "sudo nano /etcx11/xorg.conf but there was no option to change my video driver.
[00:18] <LjL> NemesisD: no, it's an empty string
[00:18] <unagi_> can anyone tell me what maps out mouse keys in ubuntu?
[00:18] <egc> i do use rhytmbox with my ipod, but i dont believe its set as a mass storage dev
[00:18] <mneptok> ogre: "Enable Disk Use:
[00:18] <mneptok> "
[00:18] <jonnymac> My question's bin slipping through the cracks for the last week or so. Why do my USB speakers work in Rhythmbox but not VLC or firefox? I know it's a pretty dumb question but I'm fairly ubuntly challenged
[00:19] <mneptok> ogre: http://www.iconlockit.com/iPodDiskUse.htm
[00:19] <mneptok> :/
[00:19] <LjL> Waffle: that's pretty much a terrible hack anyway... couldn't you perhaps just use GIMP in its own virtual desktop?
[00:19] <NemesisD> LjL, would that not work on ssh for some reason
[00:19] <Jangari> egc: what are you trying to do?
[00:19] <LjL> NemesisD: unsure
[00:19] <lllsondowlll> So anymore Ideas?
[00:19] <Waffle> LjL: how would i go about setting that up?
[00:20] <NemesisD> uuugh
[00:20] <LjL> Waffle, it's already set up - your Ubuntu comes with two desktops (i think) by default, which can be selected from a switcher next to the notification area
[00:20] <Waffle> oh i thought you meant a third desktop within one of the two
[00:20] <lllsondowlll> Guess not?
[00:21] <clic1> QUESTION:  so I installed flash adobe shit, I have firefox and after watching a few youtubes, it just goes blank and won't come back, it works if I restart firefox, but how to fix?
[00:21] <egc> Jangari: im trying to tar up my homedir, but i seem to be hitting a filesize limit
[00:21] <egc> tar dumps car
[00:21] <egc> s/car/core
[00:21] <aslo> !list
[00:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[00:21] <LjL> Waffle: no, i just meant it may be simpler and, at the end of the day, equivalent to that hack, to just use a separate desktop for the GIMP
[00:21] <Waffle> yea
[00:21] <Waffle> that makes sense
[00:22] <Waffle> unless i want to have something else quickly accessible in that desktop
[00:22] <egc> my processor is 32bit, so its probably that 2GB limit
[00:22] <capital86> Hey guys I'm have a dual boot problem with xp and ubuntu
[00:22] <lllsondowlll> So theres not a solution to my problem?
[00:22] <icesword> capital86, what is it
[00:22] <owh> egc: Ot
[00:23] <LjL> lllsondowlll: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (not /etcx11 by the way...) doesn't give you any "options", it's just a text file. the video driver choice *is* there, somewhere. but a better way to change the video driver selection, anyway, is to use dpkg-reconfigure
[00:23] <LjL> !xconfig > lllsondowlll    (lllsondowlll, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:23] <owh> egc: It's more likely to be the file size limit of your filesystem, not your CPU.
[00:23] <egc> owh: sorry...i don't follow
[00:23] <mIKEjONES> can anyone help me set up my postfix properly
[00:23] <how_to> hello! I have a question.. probably stupid, but how can I find out what I using edgy or dapper?
[00:23] <prince_jammys> red22: be right back, have to make a link or two from windows
[00:23] <LjL> !version > how_to    (how_to, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:23] <owh> egc: If you are using a FAT or FAT32 file system, there is a 2Gb limit.
[00:24] <egc> owh: do you know of way to get large file support?
[00:24] <icesword> how_to, uname -a
[00:24] <egc> oh
[00:24] <egc> youre right!
[00:24] <capital86> I just installed ubuntu yesterday. I have xp on one hard drive (160gig) and ubuntu on another (40gig). Linux loads fine when the boot menu comes up and I select it. But when I try to select other operating systems it says error 11
[00:24] <mIKEjONES> ubuntu is chrooting postfix and sasl so when I try authorizing (AUTH PLAIN) with SMTP I get this error in mail.warn "SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory"
[00:24] <LjL> Waffle: well what happens when you try the forums hack anyway?
[00:24] <egc> owh: i'm creating the tar file on an external hdd formatted with fat
[00:25] <icesword> capital86, what is  other system ,xp
[00:25] <Waffle> LjL: its pretty much all the gimp windows compiled into one
[00:25] <icesword> ?
[00:25] <lllsondowlll> Thank you then, I will go try that. I am being jerked around being told many solutions that never work but I have faith in this one, I'm crossing my fingers. Thanks for putting up with me again folks. I will be back if it doesn't work.
[00:25] <owh> ecg you could pipe the tar file through split
[00:25] <capital86> Error 11: unrecongnized device string....that is the exact error.....The other system is xp64x
[00:25] <LjL> Waffle: well yes, that's what it is, it just creates a desktop inside your desktop.
[00:25] <how_to> hello! I have a question.. probably stupid, but how can I find out what I using edgy or dapper?
[00:25] <how_to> any help?
[00:25] <LjL> how_to: you were answered - twice
[00:25] <LjL> !version | how_to
[00:25] <ubotu> how_to: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[00:25] <luigi> Hi
[00:26] <how_to> thx
[00:26] <icesword> !dualboot | capital86
[00:26] <how_to> :)
[00:26] <ubotu> capital86: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[00:26] <Waffle> how would i go about editing gimps programming so it would automatically do that?
[00:26] <LjL> Waffle: err...
[00:26] <luigi> i have to try my webcam with amsn... does somebody wants to help me?
[00:26] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know where the javadocs are in Ubuntu?
[00:26] <Cpudan80> WHen you install the docs package that is
[00:26] <Waffle> go to /usr/bin perhaps?
[00:26] <capital86> I have read that and It didnt help me
[00:26] <Cyr4x> Waffle: it's just imposibble to have one-window gimp at this time
[00:27] <LjL> Waffle: i'm afraid that turning the GIMP into a proper single-window applications would require more than a couple of tweaks to the code
[00:27] <Waffle> crud
[00:27] <Cyr4x> this feature will be included in the future
[00:27] <icesword> capital86, u need to check u /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:27] <Waffle> hopefully the near future
[00:27] <luigi> please... i need to try to do a videocall....
[00:27] <capital86> okay
[00:27] <LjL> Waffle: look at Krita for a raster editor with such a layout
[00:27] <capital86> do I just type that command in terminal?
[00:27] <egc> how_to: type "cat /etc/lsb-release"
[00:28] <luigi> phoenix.... can you help me?
[00:28] <Cyr4x> krita is nothing comparing to gimp
[00:28] <Cyr4x> just see pixel image editor
[00:28] <luigi> nephyrin
[00:28] <Cyr4x> that's probably what did you want
[00:28] <luigi> hi
[00:28] <how_to> egc: thx!
[00:28] <icesword> capital86, less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:28] <Cyr4x> (veeeeeeeeery similar to photoshop)
[00:28] <egc> how_to: np
[00:29] <LjL> Cyr4x: and slightly nonfree
[00:29] <Nephyrin> hi.
[00:29] <luigi> can you help me?
[00:29] <Waffle> i need free
[00:29] <LjL> !helpme | luigi
[00:29] <Waffle> everything im running right now is free
[00:29] <ubotu> luigi: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:29] <capital86> okay I put that in the terminal and it came up with a bunch of suff
[00:30] <xerxes1358> danbhfive:  still there
[00:30] <xerxes1358> ?
[00:30] <Waffle> even my hardware is free
[00:30] <icesword> capital86, secelt u windows xp 's boot order ,and put it here
[00:30] <Cyr4x> if you would develop an aplication quite like the professional one which costs a lot
[00:30] <m1r> how to mount .bin file in ubuntu ?
[00:30] <capital86> secelt? select?
[00:30] <how_to> well, the problem is that with my laptop I cant get wireless. :( any have some help and time for me? Gonna appreciate any help! private me thx!
[00:30] <Cyr4x> would you share for free?
[00:30] <luigi> I have to try to do a videocall with amsn who wants to try it?
[00:30] <Cyr4x> or sell for a small fee?
[00:30] <icesword> capital86, yeah
[00:31] <jcg42> How can I make Amarok look more like the human theme?
[00:31] <capital86> ohh, okay, how do I do that? lol sorry Im a noob with linux
[00:31] <LjL> !info bchunk | m1r
[00:31] <ubotu> m1r: bchunk (source: bchunk): CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-6 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 68 kB
[00:31] <how_to> well, the problem is that with my laptop I cant get wireless. :( any have some help and time for me? Gonna appreciate any help! private me thx!
[00:31] <Waffle> Cyr4x: if i make a program that can do that i will make it open source
[00:31] <how_to> sorry
[00:32] <Waffle> open source = ftw
[00:32] <xerxes1358> danbhfive: are you still there man ?
[00:32] <capital86> Waffle do you play cs?
[00:32]  * LjL points Cyr4x, Waffle and himself to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:32] <icesword> capital86, i mean ,u find the tittle windows xp or something ,and put that part here
[00:32] <m1r> LjL , tnx i check
[00:33] <luigi> mikeD ihave to try to do a videocall with amsn, can you ha a video call with me?
[00:33] <mIKEjONES> ubuntu is chrooting postfix and sasl so when I try authorizing (AUTH PLAIN) with SMTP I get this error in mail.warn "SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory"
[00:33] <capital86> iceworld can you IM me?
[00:33] <cubias8719> i have some questions, can anyone helo?
[00:33] <icesword> capital86, what im .?
[00:33] <capital86> Instant message me?
[00:34] <icesword> capital86, i know ,what im u use
[00:34] <capital86> aim
[00:34] <capital86> playa27032
[00:34] <cubias8719> can anyone help me out?
[00:35] <icesword> capital86, i am on windows , and i do not use aim now,but i got a msn
[00:35] <LjL> !pm
[00:35] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[00:35] <how_to> guys any help, cant get wireless
[00:35] <Flare183> how_to: broadcom card?
[00:35] <how_to> yeah
[00:35] <Flare183> how_to: 43xx?
[00:35] <how_to> yeah
[00:35] <Flare183> how_to: ok you need two files
[00:35] <cubias8719> i cant add any applications. it constantly says they're unavailable. can anyone help me with this
[00:36] <gurts> hello everyone
[00:36] <Flare183> how_to: both of which i have
[00:36] <Flare183> !anyone | cubias8719 (sorry)
[00:36] <ubotu> cubias8719 (sorry): A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:36] <how_to> nice
[00:36] <how_to> thx
[00:36] <how_to> :)
[00:36] <LjL> !enter
[00:36] <xerxes1358> Can someone help me through a INTERNET install of the Ubuntu ?
[00:36] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:36] <Flare183> how_to: transfer over dcc?
[00:36] <capital86> okay
[00:36] <leeping2009> Hi there: I'm getting kernel panics when doing system cloning.  Could the Linux kernel be at fault? (I'm blindly troubleshooting)
[00:36] <capital86> im me on there....johnathon495@hotmail.com
[00:36] <leeping2009> Or, alternatively, could the hard drive be corrupted??
[00:37] <how_to> Flare183: yeah try
[00:37] <cubias8719> how can i get the applications installed and running
[00:37] <Dr_willis> leeping2009  ubuntu uses the 'uuid' of disks to mount them and even grub uses the uuid #;s - that may be your issue
[00:37] <capital86> did you get my name
[00:37] <luigi> I have to try to do a videocall with amsn who wants to try it?
[00:37] <Waffle> Cyr4x: pixel looks ridiculously good, but im not willing to pay that much (i know, im cheap)
[00:37] <luigi> sergio are you italian?
[00:37] <aslo> ciao
[00:38] <LjL> !it
[00:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:38] <Flare183> how_to: accept it then it should work
[00:38] <aslo> !list
[00:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[00:38] <Flare183> how_to: ok?
[00:38] <mehmet> is there any programs like photobooth from mac?
[00:38] <how_to> k
[00:38] <leeping2009> Dr_willis: I doubt that's the problem .. Otherwise, I wouldn't be getting errors halfway through, would I? I wouldn't even be able to start the cloning process.
[00:38] <Flare183> how_to: kk just checking
[00:38] <mehmet> i need a program to take pictures from my webcam
[00:38] <LjL> Waffle, my honest suggestion is to just stick to the GIMP and get used to the window managing... it's the best free raster editor around, and if many people like the multiple-windows interface, it must mean it can be got to terms with
[00:38] <leeping2009> Dr_willis: If that is the problem, how do I prevent Ubuntu from using UUID?
[00:39] <Dr_willis> leeping,  edit the files using them and replace them with /dev/hd## or whatever
[00:39] <cubias8719> ok then, how can i get my network and sound drivers installed
[00:39] <Flare183> ubotu: thanks
[00:39] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[00:39] <LjL> leeping2009: it might be the RAM as well, for all i know. should look at kernel panic and logs...
[00:39] <Flare183> how_to: is it workin?
[00:40] <mehmet> ..anyone?
[00:40] <how_to> no
[00:40] <how_to> try again
[00:40] <Flare183> how_to: or do need for me to upload it to somewhere else?
[00:40] <how_to> well
[00:40] <how_to> dunno
[00:40] <how_to> try dcc
[00:40] <rhizo> greetings, anyone figured out a workaround for the firefox profile manager bug in Gutsy ?
[00:40] <burner> i'm having some problems with my wireless card (intel 8800BG).. after i updated my kernel and restarted, i get this off dmesg;
[00:40] <burner> ipw2200: Unable to load ucode: -62
[00:40] <burner> ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -62
[00:41] <Flare183> how_to: http://filebin.ca/czwbee/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[00:41] <Flare183> how_to: that's the first one
[00:41] <^miaw> hi
[00:41] <how_to> k
[00:41] <how_to> thx
[00:41] <Flare183> how_to: http://filebin.ca/wveegz/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb
[00:41] <Flare183> how_to: and that's the second one
[00:41] <leeping2009> LjL: I have another piece of information: I don't think it's a problem with the receiving computers.  They both received the same image and both got kernel panics
[00:41] <how_to> k
[00:41] <leeping2009> LjL: The error is: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!"
[00:42]  * rhizo tried the usual "firefox -ProfileManager"     or      "firefox -a asdf" ( as per launchpad bug entry )    all  to no avail :(
[00:42] <cubias8719> how can i activate my graphics driver
[00:42] <Flare183> cubias8719: modprobe it
[00:42] <Darkmystere> i cant get my computer to connect to my WEP network.. but it works as soon as i login in windows
[00:42] <cubias8719> and i would do that how?
[00:43] <burner> modprobe <driver>
[00:43] <egc> cubias8719: type "man modprobe"
[00:43] <Flare183> cubias8719: on the terminal type in sudo modprobe (driver)
[00:43] <Flare183> yeah that too
[00:43] <rhizo> open a terminal window, cubias8719, and issue that command, feeding it your driver as an argument
[00:43] <LjL> leeping2009: wait, it's the sending computer or the receiving ones that are getting the panic?
[00:43] <how_to> Flannel: after install them wht shold I do next? or that`s it? thx
[00:43] <Flare183> oops
[00:43] <leeping2009> LjL: It's the receiving ones that got the panic.
[00:44] <Flare183> sorry Flannel
[00:44] <rhizo> so everyone here is happy with buggy firefox profile manager in Gutsy ?..
[00:44] <Flare183> how_to: it's flare183
[00:44] <how_to> thx dude
[00:44] <Flare183> no problem
[00:44] <LjL> leeping2009: how are you sending?
[00:44] <Cyr4x> i'm not using profiles
[00:44] <Cyr4x> just have only one
[00:44] <Flare183> how_to: you try to connect using dhclient or gnome's network manager
[00:44] <cubias8719> k im trying, im new to ubuntu so that should explain my multiple questions
[00:45] <how_to> right, ok
[00:45] <leeping2009> LjL: I'm using systemimager-server.  Previously I was using dd through netcat.  When dd through netcat failed, I fell back to systemimager and I'm still getting panics
[00:45] <rhizo> Cyr4x: and you should use them ( NoScript extension and separate profile for your secure email and online banking is a must )
[00:45] <phibbit> HELP!  I ran apt-get dist-upgrade from 6.1 to 7.x and now my Linux will not boot at all.
[00:45] <mIKEjONES> ubuntu is chrooting postfix and sasl so when I try authorizing (AUTH PLAIN) with SMTP I get this error in mail.warn "SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory"
[00:45] <leeping2009> LjL:  When I use systemimager, I retrieve the image from the golden client onto the image server first; that occurs without errors.  It's when sending the image to the other clones that I get the error.  When I use dd and netcat, only the receiving end gets the error.
[00:45] <LjL> phibbit: that's not the way to upgrade...
[00:45] <LjL> !upgrade > phibbit    (phibbit, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:46] <Cyr4x> i don't use online banking at now
[00:46] <rhizo> phibbit: next time, try reading before you press the button...   you can only upgrade between immediately successive versions
[00:46] <cubias8719> how do i get a terminal up
[00:46] <tritan_3> how do you stop auto dialup connection when starting up the computer
[00:46] <Cyr4x> and for email i use evolition
[00:46] <amenado> xterm
[00:46] <rhizo> Applications > Accessories or some such
[00:46] <phibbit> rhizo:  well, what do I do now?
[00:46] <Flare183> yeah something like that
[00:46] <cubias8719> thank you
[00:47] <rhizo> phibbit:  go on with your life ?
[00:47] <amenado> tritan_3-> remove the dial up entry in /etc/network/inerfaces
[00:47] <phibbit> it says, "Error 17:  Cannot mount selected partition"
[00:47] <egc> wow
[00:47] <nickrud> tritan_3: that is, comment out the auto ppp0 (or whatever ppp) line
[00:48] <leeping2009> LjL: I'm about to do another clone with Systemimager across two different computers.  (i.e. the source and the sink are both different .. only the master server is the same.)
[00:48] <Exershio> hey everyone. I decided to do a fresh install on Gutsy, and I installed my Radeon 9550 drivers through the restricted drivers manager, and they're performing great (and 3d acceleration is installed), however, Compiz still wont work. >_> I enabled the composite extension in xorg.conf, and now it just says "failed to initialize desktop effects"
[00:48] <icesword> nickrud, hi,is this （support this channel) your job?
[00:48] <leeping2009> LjL: Let's see what happens
[00:48] <LjL> leeping2009: well, to me that sounds like it's the networking, since you've tried different ways to transfer and different computers... i wonder if it could simply be that, for some reason, your computers miss interrupts from the network card, and when they miss too many (like when there's a transfer in progress), the kernel takes it badly. have you tried the standard universal medicines - "noapic", "noacpi", "acpi=off", and in this case specifically, i'd
[00:48] <LjL> consider "irqpoll"?
[00:48] <nickrud> icesword: nah, my pasttime
[00:48] <rhizo> phibbit: the "x" in "7.x" actually matters, or could matter in your case
[00:48] <zelrikriando> hi nickrud
[00:48] <phibbit> it's a dual boot system (lin & win)
[00:48] <nickrud> icesword: I'm in a competition with a person who will remain nameless ;)
[00:48] <nickrud> zelrikriando: hi
[00:49] <mehmet> is there a program for linux that'll let me take pictures from my webcam
[00:49] <Cyr4x> exershio afaik compiz on ati cards need aiglx
[00:49]  * nickrud leaves 'nameless' in the dust, on quantity anyway
[00:49] <phibbit> rhizo:  what does apt-get dist-install get you when you go from 6.1?
[00:49] <cubias8719> now from this modprobe thing, how do i get the nvidia drivers goin
[00:49] <leeping2009> LjL: I'll try the standard universal medicines and get back to you in about 5 minutes. :)  Thanks
[00:49] <TheZealot> What is the GUI application that depackages?
[00:49] <Exershio> Cyr4x: what is that?
[00:49] <rhizo> workaround for the firefox profile manager bug in Gutsy, anyone ?
[00:49] <Cyr4x> it's built-in in compiz
[00:49] <Cyr4x> no..
[00:49] <Cyr4x> i mean xorg
[00:49] <mehmet> !webcam
[00:49] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:49] <nickrud> rhizo: use the firefox binaries from mozilla?
[00:49] <tritan_3> file says, auto lo,  iface lo inet loopback,   iface ppp0, inet ppp,    provider ppp0,   what do i remove to stop auto dial out?
[00:50] <Newbuntu2> can anyone help me with VNC? If I try to open synaptic manager, or just wait a few minutes, it freezes my linux box...
[00:50] <Exershio> Cyr4x: so how do I enable this?
[00:50] <Cyr4x> you just have to set it up properly in your xorg conf
[00:50] <leeping2009> LjL: However I should mention that it doesn't always kill the interrupt handler, sometimes it doesn't get to the words "Kernel panic" and the system will hang .. in other instances it will quit because of an error in the rsync data stream
[00:50] <egc> rhizo: use a different browser
[00:50] <Exershio> Cyr4x: Do you know how? Or should I check the forums
[00:50] <nickrud> TrioTorus: provider ppp0 iirc
[00:50] <egc> go on with your life ;)
[00:50] <amenado> tritan_3-> anytying related to ppp0
[00:50] <Cyr4x> just google for "compiz+ati+aiglx"
[00:50] <LjL> leeping2009: i suspect my message got cut, i was saying "irqpoll" in this case specifically
[00:50] <Exershio> Cyr4x: okay, thanks
[00:50] <rhizo> phibbit:  i bet "man apt-get" has the answer...  get into a habit of *reading* before you issue commands at your prompt ( also, you'll probably find "aptitude" more to your liking as a newcommer to ubuntu / debian realm )
[00:50] <Exershio> Cyr4x: it isn't that xgl crap that'll lag my computer to hell, is it?
[00:51] <leeping2009> LjL: I got that piece of the message, I'll include it
[00:51] <Cyr4x> i don't remeber how, i use nvidia card which provide it out of the box
[00:51] <burner> anyone around to help out with my ipw2200 driver...?
[00:51] <nickrud> amenado: I think the other stuff is set up for use with network manager, he'll have to reconfig if he does that
[00:51] <Cyr4x> no it's not xgl
[00:51] <tritan_3> will I still be able to use dial up connection?
[00:51] <TheZealot> Anyone know the name of the GUI version of dpkg?
[00:51] <Cyr4x> xgl is a separate x server
[00:51] <rhizo> nickrud: looks like the only way out, yeah
[00:51] <Exershio> Cyr4x: okay, I'll look into it. thanks
[00:51] <Cyr4x> aiglx is a module in xorg
[00:51] <how_to> Flare183: dpkg -i packet.deb ? or what was the command?
[00:51]  * rhizo was hoping for a quick cli switch type of solution
[00:51] <rhizo> rough
[00:51] <mIKEjONES> ubuntu is chrooting postfix and sasl so when I try authorizing (AUTH PLAIN) with SMTP I get this error in mail.warn "SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory"
[00:51] <phibbit> rhizo, right now, there's no apt anything nor man anything, it's "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition" Is it possible that the apt-get changed the boot loader & is trying to mount Windows?
[00:52] <cubias8719> how do i enable my graphics card
[00:52] <rhizo> egc: i don't use firefox;  need to support a bunch of users though ( company policy, blah blah )
[00:52] <Crusader_Tech> Hello everyone.  Another Ubuntu Newb question.  I seem to be struggling to set up a VPN to my office from within Ubuntu.
[00:52] <amenado> nickrud tritan_3 the ppp0 interface is normally associated to dial up, anyhow it is wise to save a copy of the interface file before modifications
[00:52] <tritan_3> thank you.. i will give it a try
[00:52] <egc> rhizo: i c
[00:52] <MiVo> Hi, I get a message that gstreamer-properties can't be found when I want to install it. How can I install it ?
[00:52] <Led_Zeppelin> Anyone running AMD64 on Ubuntu?
[00:52] <Zeddie> ahh damn just updated kernel on this box and it didn't keep the old kernel and has the wrong grub permissions
[00:52] <Zeddie> well on another box :p
[00:52] <rhizo> phibbit:  well, only indirectly, thru a complex chain of actions, triggered by it
[00:53] <prince_jammys> red22: i got it
[00:53] <leeping2009> LjL: I don't think the "new" pair of computers is getting the kernel panic - the old pair panicked in less than 5 seconds.  Now on the new computers, rsync has been running for >30 seconds.. I'll see if it finishes
[00:53] <amenado> Zeddie-> it normally keeps the old one, you looked in /boot ?
[00:53] <prince_jammys> red22: the final phase is to weed out all links to exe files, cuz there's a ton of them
[00:53] <J-_> can rysnc do local backups?
[00:53] <Led_Zeppelin> neverblue, got it working. Thanks brother
[00:53] <hotmonkeyluv> I'm installing kiba-dock, where do I install programs too? /*my_name*/home/.kiba-dock or somewhere else?
[00:54] <spudratic0> how do I get rid of unneeded file?
[00:54] <TheZealot> Anyone know why I can use dpkg in the command line, but I can't just double click on the file to depackage it?
[00:54] <Starnestommy> hotmonkeyluv: ~/.kiba-dock I think
[00:54] <rhizo> phibbit: your installation is likely a lost cause ( i haven't a way of knowing, for you never specified the "x" ver. number, )
[00:54] <amenado> spudratic0-> rm filename
[00:54] <usr13> spudratic0: rm undeededfile
[00:54] <spudratic0> thanks amenado
[00:54] <hotmonkeyluv> Starnestommy: what does the *squiggly* and / mean?
[00:54] <phibbit> rhizo:  7.04
[00:55] <spudratic0> thnaks 13
[00:55] <rhizo> phibbit: you could try to boot from another disk, and see if anything is left of your installation by attaching the harddrive as a slave, and trying to mount its extended type partition
[00:55] <Starnestommy> hotmonkeyluv: /home/username/
[00:55] <hotmonkeyluv> Starnestommy: I hate my laptop kb, no tilde
[00:55] <hotmonkeyluv> ah, thanks
[00:55] <leeping2009> LjL: The system clone worked on the new pair of computeres
[00:55] <Cyr4x> thezealot check what gdebi-gtk saysi
[00:55] <phibbit> rhizo:  Live CD?
[00:55] <Cyr4x> maybe it crashes?
[00:55] <amenado> J-_-> yes local backup with rsync is possible, just make sure destination is not same as your origin
[00:55] <leeping2009> Now for the old pair...
[00:55] <zelrikriando> hey nickrud
[00:55] <how_to> Flare183: /usr/bin/dpkg: cannot execute binary file after running dpkg -i package.deb
[00:55] <rhizo> phibbit:  or that, yes
[00:56] <cubias8719> how can i enable my graphics card
[00:56] <Flare183> how_to: i don't know
[00:56] <fiveiron> anyone know what font is in this screenshot:  http://incise.org/images/screenshots/2003-06-28-142739.png
[00:56] <how_to> damn
[00:56] <fiveiron> in the terminal
[00:56] <egc> phibbit: you could also use liveCD, mount hdd and save any data to usb drive, then reinstall
[00:56] <Cyr4x> cubias ati or nvidia?
[00:56] <phibbit> rhizo assuming it's still there, what's the fastest way to get it back?
[00:56] <J-_> amenado: cool, thanks dude
[00:56] <cubias8719> nvidia
[00:56] <BagelMaster> I have gotten a new error using rubytorrent (a program used to create torrents).  I used it to make 5 torrents last night, but it doesn't work now, this is all I get in the terminal when I try to start it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56561/
[00:56] <Cyr4x> just change nv to nvidia in your xorg.conf
[00:56] <rhizo> phibbit: what egc just told you: live cd + mount + save to usb storage
[00:56] <amenado> cubias8719-> if you go to a console and type  X :8  and you get the gui..may not be complete just an X in the midlle, but it shows your video is working
[00:56] <how_to> any help? :( /usr/bin/dpkg: cannot execute binary file after running dpkg -i package.deb
 Zeddie-> it normally keeps the old one, you looked in /boot ? <--- would love to unfortunately it only loads the initramfs
[00:56] <Cyr4x> if you have drivers installed
[00:57] <amenado> Zeddie-> huh? nothing left in your /boot?
[00:57] <how_to> any help? :( /usr/bin/dpkg: cannot execute binary file after running dpkg -i package.deb
[00:57] <Dr_willis> cubias8719,  you can run the restricted-manager tool and it should be able to insall/configure them automaticially
[00:57] <Cyr4x> if not, first do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[00:57] <cubias8719> i dont even know if they are. it seems like it. but i just installed this off of windows
[00:57] <Crusader_Tech> Hello everyone.  Another Ubuntu Newb question.  I seem to be struggling to set up a VPN to my office from within Ubuntu.
[00:57] <vick> Hello, i've been trying to install ubuntu 32bit on my hp pavilion laptop (with 64 amd althon 3800+ processor), however after a while in the setup CD i get a strange text prompt, Why is that happening ?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> cubias8719,  system-> admin -> restricted driver manager
[00:57] <cubias8719> and this is a pretty old computer im using just to mess around with
[00:57] <vick> Is it because 32bit - 64bit thing ?
[00:57] <Starnestommy> vick: what is the text prompt saying?
[00:58] <Crusader_Tech> is a VPN client included in the Ubuntu 7.10 standard install?
[00:58] <Dr_willis> !vpn
[00:58] <vick> Starnestommy: something about Busybox for starters
[00:58] <LjL> leeping2009: well, while it's unlikely that both computers would have hardware faults, i think it's possible that both fail with apic and friends
[00:58] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[00:58] <vick> Starnestommy: then it is giving me a strange shell
[00:58] <spudratic0> az
[00:58] <Starnestommy> vick: sounds like either a bad iso, a bad burn, or the cd or hard disk wasn't detected
[00:58] <amenado> Crusader_Tech-> ssh client good enuff? its included
[00:58] <Cyr4x> if it is a real old computer (something below geforce fx) better try nvidia-glx drivers instead of nvidia-glx-new
[00:58] <rhizo> Crusader_Tech:  find out easily with "aptitude search vpn"
[00:59] <egc> Crusader_Tech: have you looked into vpnc?
[00:59] <vick> Starnestommy: There is check for defect CD option with the CD
[00:59] <leeping2009> LjL: What about the possibility that the source computer had bad sectors and the image that I got from it was corrupted?
[00:59] <BagelMaster> I have gotten a new error using rubytorrent (a program used to create torrents).  I used it to make 5 torrents last night, but it doesn't work now, this is all I get in the terminal when I try to start it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56561/
[00:59] <cubias8719> its a geforce 2 MX400
[00:59] <egc> i use vpnc to vpn into my company's intranet
[00:59] <Crusader_Tech> I simply need a basic VPN client, like the one in Windows XP, to connect to my firewall at the office.
[00:59] <vick> Starnestommy: should i test for that and come back and tell you, or that isn't related ?
[00:59] <egc> it has a plugin for network-manager
[00:59] <LjL> leeping2009: and that would cause a *kernel panic* in the receiving computer? i find that unlikely
[00:59] <Cyr4x> omg
[00:59] <leeping2009> LjL: I'm trying the four boot parameters that you gave me
[00:59] <Kalamansi> hello how to paste the updates? I have updates saved in my usb flash drives..how to paste it in ubuntu desktop 7.10?which folder? thanks
[00:59] <leeping2009> LjL: Hopefully it will do the trick :)
[00:59] <amenado> Crusader_Tech-> ssh client is usually a good start
[00:59] <Starnestommy> vick: test that, and run 'dmesg' in the shell to look for errors
[01:00] <Crusader_Tech> I've only tried to install one VPN client from the repository, and it asked for my Ubuntu CD?
[01:00] <cubias8719> explains why i got this comp for free
[01:00] <Crusader_Tech> Amenado, Thanks, but where do I find that client?
[01:00] <Cyr4x> so try to install nvidia-glx or run restricted-driver-manager as said
[01:00] <vick> Starnestommy: k, brb
[01:00] <Dr_willis> Kalamansi,  the package manager keeps its cache in /var/cache/* somewhere.  you could tyr copying them in there.
[01:00] <amenado> Crusader_Tech-> ssh client is included as part of install
[01:00] <cubias8719> how do i do this. on the terminal?
[01:00] <egc> Crusader_Tech: vpnc works with cisco based vpns
[01:00] <zhanx> !restricted
[01:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:00] <Kalamansi> Dr_willis : how to navigate there?
[01:01] <rhizo> Crusader_Tech:  sudo aptitude install network-manager-vpnc
[01:01] <amenado> Kalamansi-> updates? these are deb files?
[01:01] <Crusader_Tech> VPNC is telling me something's not installed one second
[01:01] <Kalamansi> amenado: yes all deb files
 Zeddie-> huh? nothing left in your /boot? <--- just dumps into busybox
[01:01]  * rhizo -afk &
[01:02] <zhanx> what fun have to reinstall everything
[01:02] <Crusader_Tech> with vpnc, I first make a new connection, right?
[01:02] <Kalamansi> amenado:all the updates, I've saved it in my flash drive usb. how to paste and where in ubuntu desktop 7.10?
[01:02] <amenado> Zeddie-> you have not booted yet, so you were not able to see your /boot dir
[01:02] <leeping2009> LjL: I'm quite puzzled as well :) I'm getting a very similar error
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Kalamansi,  the package manager keeps its cache in /var/cache/apt/archives - You will need to use the root user to write things to that place.   I would just use the bash shell to do the copying.   It may be very very worth while for you to read a bash guide or 2 befor messing with the system files in such a way
[01:02] <egc> Crusader_Tech: are you using wireless connectino?
[01:02] <egc> connection
[01:02] <Crusader_Tech> or new profile I mean.  When I choose that, it asks me to pick from several different types.
[01:02] <Crusader_Tech> egc, no, wired.
[01:02] <egc> oh i guess it doesnt matter
[01:02] <amenado> Kalamansi-> if they are .deb files, you can just type  dpkg -i /path/to/where/they/are.deb
 Zeddie-> you have not booted yet, so you were not able to see your /boot dir <--- yeah and unfortunately that stuffs me up
[01:03] <mike-e> !codecs
[01:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <leeping2009> LjL: The system did not crash, I got an error in the rsync protocol data stream.  The top of the error output reads "general protection fault: 0000 [1] SMP CPU 0"
[01:03] <Crusader_Tech> The required daemon (vpnc) isn't available, you will not be able to use this connection until the daemon is not installed.
[01:03] <Dr_willis> Kalamansi,  the basics.. sudo cp /path/tp/the/files/* /var/cache/
[01:03] <egc> you can configure it through the network manager gui
[01:03] <Crusader_Tech> that comes up when I try to make a cisco type connection.
[01:03] <Dr_willis> oops ive the full path at the last . :)
[01:03] <cubias8719> i went on the restricted drivers and it said nvidia-glx is not enable. do you know how i enable it?
[01:03] <red22> prince_jammys: so you get a script going or what?
[01:03] <amenado> Zeddie-> you have the liveCD ? boot from it and go  to recovery mode, then mount your normal partition for /
[01:04] <egc> Crusader_Tech: did you use synaptic to install vpnc?
[01:04] <prince_jammys> red22: yes
[01:04] <prince_jammys> red22: seems to work
[01:04] <LimCore> linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic  is still ownable by vmsplice exploit. is it ok?
[01:04] <LjL> leeping2009: that's still a kernel error as far as i can gather
[01:04] <Crusader_Tech> no, it's kvpnc from add/remove
[01:04] <Devo> I'm trying to install Ubuntu for Dual boot with Windows and I'm at the partitioning part, and I have read guides and they say there should be an option that says "Guided - resize disk" or something like that, but mine only says "Guided - resize entire disk"... What do I do?
[01:04] <Cyr4x> do you know any app that will scan chosen folder for mp3's and do a .pls or .m3u playlist from it?
[01:04] <nameless> hi
[01:04] <leeping2009> LjL: I imagine so.  I will now attempt to load the image that "worked" for the "new" pair of computers, onto the computers that crashed
[01:04] <egc> Crusader_Tech: try going thru synaptic, it may process dependencies more fully
[01:05] <egc> it worked for me
[01:05] <Crusader_Tech> doing it now egc
[01:05] <leeping2009> LjL: The only issue there is that the "new" pair of computers have different hardware...
[01:05] <red22> i'm messing around with a script on a page given by Dr_willis but it needs a little tweaking... still working on it
[01:05] <amenado> Crusader_Tech-> but at the server end, is it configured to run a corresponding server for kvnc?  or is sshd on it already?
[01:05] <nameless> someone know how to share file between ubuntu and osx ?
[01:05] <red22> can i see what you got?  paste bin it somewhere ?
[01:05] <prince_jammys> !paste
[01:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:05] <amenado> nameless->  nfs  ?
[01:05] <nameless> yes
[01:05] <amenado> nameless->  ftp, or scp...lots of ways
[01:05] <leeping2009> LjL: Maybe this info will help: I've gotten repeated segfaults when installing ubuntu over the network on this source computer that's causing the crashing
[01:06] <nameless> amenado, lan
[01:06] <rhizo> nameless:  use ssh filesystem - you need sshd service on ubuntu, and there's a thingie for OS X
[01:06] <Crusader_Tech> not sure.  It's an Astaro security gateway, and I normally connect by using the built-in windows XP VPN client.  No fancy settings. just an IP address and a login.
[01:06] <egc> Crusader_Tech: i also don't have kvpnc installed...just vpnc and network-manager-vpnc
[01:06] <leeping2009> LjL: I had to install with a CD to finally get it to work
[01:06] <LjL> leeping2009: but a googleable one, and one that when google shows promising hits. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/133575 to begin with, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/147798 - both related to network copying of big files, regardless of medium. perhaps, uhm, perhaps is it just happening after 2/4Gb? (hope not). or, are the computers 64-bit?
[01:06] <rhizo> Crusader_Tech:  sudo aptitude install network-manager-vpnc
[01:06] <amenado> nameless nfs is network file system, you load the client and an nfs server on the other side sharing it
[01:06] <LimCore> linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic  is still ownable by vmsplice exploit. is it ok?
[01:06] <rhizo> nfs also sucks
[01:06] <rhizo> ssh for the win :)
[01:07] <leeping2009> LjL: Are you asking about whether it's happening after a certain amount of data transferred? No, it happens almost instantly.  And yes, the computers are 64-bit (Q6600 processor)
[01:07] <Kalamansi> Dr_willis : im in var/cache/apt/archives there is a folder there named "partial".. ill paste in the folder "partial"?
[01:07] <amenado> LimCore-> you have other users on your system you dont trust? if by yourself dont worry too much
[01:07] <Crusader_Tech> doing it now Rhizo
[01:07] <jumbers> If I connect 2 Ubuntu notebooks with a crossover cable, what would I have to do to be able to transfer files?
[01:07] <leeping2009> LjL: I'll look at what you came up with.  I wasn't able to find much on Google myself so that's why I came here :)
[01:07] <LjL> leeping2009: then, although it talks about old kernels, http://www.issociate.de/board/post/299182/general_protection_fault:_0000_[1]_SMP.html seems relevant
[01:07]  * rhizo -afk --foreal &
[01:07] <mehmet> i have this error from camorama "Couldn't connect to video device (/dev/video0) Please check connection."
[01:07] <egc> nicer
[01:07] <egc> haha oops
[01:08] <amenado> Kalamansi-> you can try installing just a few deb  from your usb pen drive..  dpkig -i nameofpackage.deb
 Zeddie-> you have the liveCD ? boot from it and go  to recovery mode, then mount your normal partition for / <-- nah found the fix :) refer to /dev/hda1 instead by the UUID :)
[01:08] <amenado> Zeddie glad you found it yourself
[01:09] <mike-e> this is ridiculous, i did a fresh re-install because something on ubuntu screwed my sound up, it worked fine after the reinstallation, i let it do it's glob of 'updates' and now it's screwed up again
[01:09] <leeping2009> LjL: Oh, I think this might be the issue... 64-bit DMA causes data corruption with atl1.  That's precisely the network driver that I'm using!
[01:09] <TheZealot> Has anyone else ever not been able to double click on a .deb package to unpackage it? I can do it in the command prompt, but not the gui app...
[01:09] <LimCore> Amaranth: well, user->root exploit is very serious... I would like to have it fixed :/
[01:09] <Spencerical> wow, I'm getting some pretty amazing torrent speeds right now for ubuntu :)
[01:09] <prince_jammys> red22: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56571/
[01:09] <Devo> How do I partition my harddrive with the Ubuntu installer so that I can dual boot between Windows and Ubuntu?
[01:09] <Amaranth> LimCore: Err
[01:09] <LjL> leeping2009: maybe, but don't disregard the 4GB boundary even though it's happening before reaching that... bug #133575 is open for the *Gutsy* kernel
[01:10] <prince_jammys> red22: will not work if you have files with the same name in different folders
[01:10] <Crusader_Tech> Ok.  this is the first thing I've come across that is actually requiring some work in Ubuntu.  I'm used to the "click and it works" VPN client in XP.  What was that ssh you were talking about?
[01:10] <prince_jammys> red22: wouldnt be hard to make that change, though
[01:10] <Kalamansi> amenado : dpkig command not found ....
[01:10] <LjL> leeping2009: ah right nevermind, that *is* the bug you're talking about
[01:10] <Hitman> Devo, during the installation, it will ask you how much of the current disk you would like to dedicate to the installation of ubuntu. You just specify it there
[01:11] <Amaranth> LimCore: You mean the vmsplice thing? It tends to be a denial of service attack more than a privilege escalation thing
[01:11] <Devo> Hitman: When does it say that?
[01:11] <leeping2009> LjL: Now for a novice question, can I update to 2.6.23 despite the fact that the newest Ubuntu kernel is 2.6.22?
[01:11] <amenado> Crusader_Tech-> it dont matter if it was windows, the server side has to be running a server services, if it was vpn, a vpn server, in ssh case, sshd
[01:11] <Amaranth> LimCore: it's more likely to corrupt memory than let someone take over
[01:11] <prince_jammys> red22: obviously you have to change the mntpnt variable to whatever your mount point is
[01:11] <mehmet> i have this error from camorama "Couldn't connect to video device (/dev/video0) Please check connection."
[01:11] <amenado> Kalamansi->   dpkg -i   note the spaces and spelling
[01:11] <Hitman> Once you boot from the live cd into gnome and initiate the install icon
[01:12] <leeping2009> LjL: I'm asking this because apparently the 2.6.23 kernel fixes the issue - it disables 64-bit DMA with atl1
[01:12] <Devo> Hitman: It gave me 3 options, Guided - Use entire disk, Guided - Use largest continguous free space, and Manual...
[01:12] <Hitman> it lets you review it very well before you "commit" any changes so don't sweat it
[01:12] <mike-e> Something on ubuntu is making my audio only as loud as a soft conversation, with master volume maxed, pcm maxed, speakes maxed. I just did a fresh install and it was fine, after ubuntu did it's updates it was screwed up again. PLEASE HELP
[01:12] <LjL> leeping2009: this channel doesn't support that sort of thing... you might be able to get it from the Hardy repositories, cross your finger, and have it work... but then you're kind of on your own.
[01:12] <amenado> Devo select Manual
[01:12] <leeping2009> LjL: Thanks, by the way.  Finding the problem by myself was going to take weeks!
[01:12] <amenado> Devo-> then adjust the partition sizes accordingly
[01:13] <phibbit> The Live CD starts booting, goes through Loading essential drivers & mounting root file system, and then it stops (the first time, it eventually said "The drive appears confused).
[01:13] <Hitman> it will detect the ntfs partition and should add it to the boot menu automatically
[01:13] <Cyr4x> how to do an sh script that will scan chosen folder for mp3's and will save them to a text file (paths to them)
[01:13] <Crusader_Tech> Amenado: In that case I need to find out what it's running.  But the fact that XP's VPN client doesn't ask me what kind of connection to use, doesn't help figure out what kind of connection it is?
[01:13] <Kalamansi> how to download all packages and updates in ubuntu 7.10 desktop? direct to the site...
[01:13] <Devo> amenado: Ok... Should I make the Ubuntu partition Logical or Primary?
[01:13] <Kalamansi> amenado : are you pinoy?
[01:13] <amenado> Crusader_Tech-> off course it does, how do you know what is running at the opposite end?
[01:14] <LjL> leeping2009: nah, the last error you gave was the key, if you had got it before you'd have found it on google. anyway, to get the Hardy kernel, you can check http://packages.ubuntu.com for the packages that the kernel depends on, download all those, and dpkg -i. the comforting thing is that you'll still be able to boot from the Gutsy kernel if things go wrong... but that doesn't guarantee too much, either.
[01:14] <mehmet> can anyone help?
[01:14] <amenado> Kalamansi-> what is that?
[01:14] <LimCore> Amaranth: you are mistaken
[01:14] <LimCore> Amaranth: it usually (always?) succedes to give root, I tried
[01:14] <Kalamansi> nevermind
[01:14] <mike-e> Something on ubuntu is making my audio only as loud as a soft conversation, with master volume maxed, pcm maxed, speakes maxed. I just did a fresh install and it was fine, after ubuntu did it's updates it was screwed up again. PLEASE HELP
[01:14] <LimCore> Amaranth: anyway, it IS fixed (my mistake) in ubuntu 7.10
[01:14] <Pelo> mehmet, webcam in ubuntu are tricky specialy the cheap ones,  ( don'T mean your's is cheap) , the best i can do for you is give you the webcam tutorial link
[01:15] <Pelo> !webcam > mehmet check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:15] <LjL> leeping2009: or if you're in a hurry, you could just put the entire Hardy main/restricted in your sources.list, and install the kernel, but if you do that, be very careful in case it tries to slip other packages under your nose (and remember to remove those repositories when you're finished with them, as well...)
[01:15] <amenado> Devo it does not matter, ubuntu can boot from extended or primary partitions
[01:15] <spudratic0> GET USED TO ITMIKE E LOL
[01:15] <Kalamansi> amenado : how to download all the packages (all the packages of 7.10 ubuntu desktop) from the beginning up to the end of packages)
[01:15] <spudratic0> sorry caps were on
[01:15] <Pelo> we noticed
[01:15] <egc> mike-e: figure out what your audio controller is, then google with its name and ubuntu
[01:15] <mehmet> Pelo:  these tutorial are mad confusing
[01:15] <red22> prince_jammys: thanks.. i'm looking through it right now.  i think there will also be issues with handling spaces in file names.  i'm also working on handling that.
[01:15] <mehmet> and it's a built in one
[01:16] <prince_jammys> red22: dealt with that
[01:16] <Pelo> mehmet, you can also try looking up your model in the forum for extra instructions  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:16] <amenado> Kalamansi  i guess you can attempt to use the synaptic and check all ?
[01:16] <Devo> armando: It only gives me the options of Primary and Logical.
[01:16] <prince_jammys> red22: thats why it took as long as it did, tested with spaces
[01:16] <red22> prince_jammys: ok, i'll check that out.. the other script i was working didn't handle that so well... seems the spaces were output as underscores by default
[01:16] <andresmujica> hey anyone knows if i can request a receipt by DEFAULT for all the messages i sent? thnks in advance
[01:16] <leeping2009> LjL: I think I'll download the kernel manually, I don't want too many Hardy packages to be installed on the Gutsy system. :)  Thanks again, I appreciate it!
[01:16] <red22> prince_jammys: nice then
[01:16] <andresmujica> in evolution i mean
[01:17] <amenado> Kalamansi under add/remove software..when you select all, click all possible boxes for download, and then have a nice nap
[01:17] <jacob_> Anybody here know how to get the terminal (without X running) in 1440 x 900 resolution for my LCD?
[01:17] <Whitor> Hi, What program can I use to see if my webcam is working / recognized ?
[01:17] <Kalamansi> I check the cables and test it with cable tester (100% okay I tested it to other pc and I have internet).. but when I plug it in ubuntu, I don't have internet...how to fix this? thanks
[01:17] <andresmujica> whitor:  cheese
[01:17] <egc> mike-e: did u get that?
[01:17] <prince_jammys> red22: it can definitely deal with spaces in the directory names -- did not test with spaces in the file names ... but should work
[01:17] <Whitor> andresmujica, ... ok
[01:17] <Kalamansi> amenado
[01:17] <Cyr4x> jacob: that's impossible
[01:18] <amenado> Devo-> amenado is the nick.. but yes you can install in primary or logical,  usually you try to make 3 primaries and 1 logical (that can be subdivided some more)
[01:18] <egc> jacob_: i second Cyr4x
[01:18] <Cyr4x> afaik text mode uses 720xSOMETHING resolution
[01:18] <Devo> amenado: Lol, sorry. =]
[01:18] <jacob_> Yeah, I noticed it was at 720 x 400
[01:18] <egc> actually
[01:18] <andresmujica> whitor: probably yu'll nedd also to set it in v4l2. try with gstreamer-properties.. easiest i forgot about it
[01:18] <Cyr4x> and no other one
[01:18] <red22> prince_jammys: i found a package that transparently adds .lnk file handling ... but it's for kde.. not sure if there's a gnome alternative
[01:18] <Jangari> is there a forum for using lame on a command line?
[01:18] <red22> prince_jammys: it's called kfile
[01:18] <Kalamansi> amenado when I plug and unplug the cable it says im connected to wired internet connection.
[01:18] <Cyr4x> google: lame+forum
[01:19] <amenado> Kalamansi-> you have an ip address on your hosts ? paste in pastebin  ifconfig -a and route -r
[01:19] <amenado> Kalamansi-> you have an ip address on your hosts ? paste in pastebin  ifconfig -a and route -ran
[01:19] <Whitor> andresmujica, ok.. installing cheese too :)
[01:19] <egc> jacob_: there may be a way to adjust your BIOS settings to do it
[01:19] <Jangari> !lame
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <Kalamansi> amenado : okay sec
[01:19] <egc> jacob_: but i can't say beyond that
[01:19] <Devo> amenado: When I try and go forward I get this error "File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 20017 (39957 expected); size of FATs is 79 sectors (157 expected)." What do I do?
[01:19] <prince_jammys> red22: seeing as the script turned out to be short, it's bound to be out there... as you see, no files are written anywhere except for the folder where you run it, so try it out
[01:19] <jacob_> OK, thanks
[01:19] <mehmet> how do i find out the driver for my webcam?
[01:20] <amenado> Devo how big is the FAT partition that currently exist?
[01:20] <Jangari> by googling it, mehmet, but if it's logitech, chances are it'll never work
[01:20] <mehmet> nah it's a HP
[01:20] <prince_jammys> red22: oh and only links to drive C: as you see
[01:20] <Devo> amenado: The Fat16 or the Fat32?
[01:21] <amenado> Devo both
[01:21] <Devo> amenado: Fat16: 33 MB and Fat32: 2300 MB.
[01:21] <amenado> Devo and tell us, what is the layout of the existing partitions?
[01:21] <Devo> amenado: What do you mean by layout?
[01:21] <Jangari> mehmet, do some googling, find some pictures if necessary, to establish the model, finding a driver from there should be easy
[01:21] <Kalamansi> amenado : route -ran is not working. neither route -r
[01:22] <amenado> Devo  is fat16  /dev/hda0  then fat32 /dev/hda1 ?
[01:22] <mehmet> Jangari:  the model to the laptop or the webcam itself?
[01:22] <amenado> Kalamansi perhaps just  route -n
[01:22] <Jangari> or, mehmet, type lsusb and note the hardware number, which should be useful to identify which driver it uses
[01:22] <Jangari> the webcam itself
[01:22] <Devo> amenado: Fat16 is /media/sda1 and Fat32 is /media/sda3.
[01:22] <Jangari> oh, it's built in?
[01:23] <Devo> amenado: Or rather... /dev instead of /media
[01:23] <amenado> Devo wait a minute,
[01:23] <amenado> ahh okay
[01:23] <arbir> is back
[01:23] <amenado> Devo  whats on /dev/sda0 and /dev/sda2 ?
[01:23] <mehmet> Jangari:  Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia
[01:23] <mehmet> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05ac:1209 Apple Computer, Inc.
[01:23] <mehmet> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0d49:3210 Maxtor
[01:23] <mehmet> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:23] <mehmet> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 045e:00e1 Microsoft Corp.
[01:23] <mehmet> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:23] <FloodBot3> mehmet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:23] <bruenig> hey the floodbot actually works
[01:23] <bruenig> clever
[01:23] <vrkhans> my firefox is giveing my trouble, when i try to run it i got a msg that it is already running,
[01:23] <vrkhans> what should i do
[01:24] <red22> prince_jammys: yeah i see.  the other route i was taking was to run something similar but only for a sppecific file, then to associate .lnk files with the script so you can double-click em from gnome.  that should be possible and work too right?
[01:24] <Devo> amenado: There is no /dev/sda0 and on /dev/sda2 is the Windows partition with NTFS and a size that I want to make 216004 MB and 71400 use MB.
[01:24] <arbir> vrkhans: try to delete the firefox profile in your home directory
[01:24] <arbir> vrkhans: and then restart
[01:24] <Boglizk> arbir: Thats stupid
[01:24] <arbir> vrkhans: i forget there is a file which remains.. if you just delete that, then you dont even need to delete the profile
[01:24] <prince_jammys> red22 not sure what you mean .. the files created can be double clicked on
[01:24] <amenado> Devo-> right, i forget sometimes..no sda0 , so you already have /dev/sda0 and set to how much?
[01:25] <arbir> Boglizk: i forget the file.... sorry for the misleading answer
[01:25] <Boglizk> vrkhans: Kill the process instead
[01:25] <RyanRyan52> !help
[01:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:25] <arbir> takes back his "delete the profile" answer
[01:25] <Devo> amenado: I don't have a /dev/sda0...
[01:25] <vrkhans> arbir which file
[01:25] <arbir> Boglizk: its not a process issue.. i have had this before.....
[01:25] <amenado> Devo my typo ..whats the size for /dev/sda2?
[01:25] <arbir> vrkhans: let me google.. i dont remember it off my head
[01:25] <exst_mhua> [Question] If I installed the new Ubuntu Alpha version, is it upgradable to future alpha/stable release?
[01:26] <prince_jammys> red22: i can even preview them with nautilus :)
[01:26] <Pricey> !hardy | exst_mhua
[01:26] <ubotu> exst_mhua: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:26] <Devo> amenado: I'm setting the size to 216004 MB.
[01:26] <vrkhans> Bohlizk i tryied ps x but there is no listing for firefox
[01:26] <red22> prince_jammys: your script runs all over the c drive and creates a folder full of links right?  well i was thinking of creating a prg that takes a single link and just follows/executes it.
[01:26] <amenado> Devo what is the size now?
[01:26] <Pricey> exst_mhua, judging by the question, you should not be using it until its release.
[01:26] <Devo> amenado: Something around 250 GB.
[01:26] <exst_mhua> Pricey, i see, thanks
[01:26] <arbir> vrkhans: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use
[01:26] <red22> prince_jammys: then you can have that script execute each time you double click a .lnk file in nautilus and it's like gnome can understand lnk files
[01:26] <Devo> amenado: Probably a little less.
[01:26] <prince_jammys> red22: oh
[01:27] <arbir> vrkhans: that link will tell you that there is a control file..... which needs to be deleted
[01:27] <arbir> vrkhans: and all would be fine
[01:27] <Nissan_350Z> ok, how do i request the Alternative CD?
[01:27] <red22> prince_jammys: that'd be neat right?
[01:27] <prince_jammys> red22: i see, associate .lnk files with your prog
[01:27] <Pricey> !alternate | Nissan_350Z
[01:27] <ubotu> Nissan_350Z: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[01:27] <amenado> Devo those exist correct? not something you just have added?
[01:27] <Pricey> grr
[01:27] <vrkhans> arbir how i can open it my browser is not working
[01:27] <Pricey> Nissan_350Z, you can find them at releases.ubuntu.com
[01:27] <prince_jammys> red22: yeah you could do that
[01:27] <arbir> oh vrkhans :-) sorry.. let me tell you the file
[01:27] <Devo> amenado: What do you mean?
[01:28] <vrkhans> :-)
[01:28] <Nissan_350Z> im at the Shipit page
[01:28] <vrkhans> thanks
[01:28] <leeping2009> LjL, my system booted up with the 2.6.24 kernel from Hardy.  It appears to be doing fine. :)  In about 5 minutes I'll let you know if systemimager successfully clones
[01:28] <dsoffs> when issing airecrack-ng -3 i get this .... open(/dev/rtc) failed: Device or resource busy
[01:28] <dsoffs> what's up with that?
[01:28] <amenado> Devo they exist prior to you trying to do this install, ie you had an existing xp on /dev/sda2 ?
[01:28] <red22> prince_jammys: then you can use the same lnk files between windows and linux. and you'd find them in the same place in linux that you left them in windows.
[01:28] <Nissan_350Z> i cant download it, its too slow
[01:28] <Devo> amenado: Yes.
[01:29] <arbir> vrkhans: if you goto your $HOME/.mozilla/firefox directory
[01:29] <prince_jammys> red22: have you tried doing this already?  maybe they already took care of that (which would be funny)
[01:29] <arbir> vrkhans:you will see a weird looking directory name, that is your profile directory
[01:29] <amenado> Devo-> okay now do you have /dev/sda4 as empty space basically? or you are trying to reduce what you have now to give room for linux?
[01:29] <red22> prince_jammys: but the strings line from your file is the heart of it all.. shouldn't be too hard to switch it.
[01:29] <toresn> i would like to make a keybinding for opening a new terminal and then 'screen -r'
[01:29] <arbir> vrkhans: inside that.... is a file named "lock" and .parentlock  -- delete both of them
[01:29] <toresn> how?
[01:30] <red22> prince_jammys: hehe you mean double clicking a lnk file?
[01:30] <Devo> amenado: I am going to create /dev/sda4 from free space for Linux, this is a new partition I am making.
[01:30] <arbir> i have been trying to install a theme and i see this line in the directions... "Install the Beryl and GTK theme as usual"  what does this mean ?
[01:30] <prince_jammys> red22: yeah you wouldnt have to change that .. you would just scrap the whole "find" bit, and the prog would have to take the lnk file name as a parameter
[01:30] <arbir> GTK theme is something i am running, is it not ?
[01:30] <prince_jammys> red22: yes, doubleclicking a lnk file
[01:31] <amenado> Devo okay, and you do have enuff free space yes? or you're attempting to take it from the existing ones?
[01:31] <Devo> amenado: I do have enough free space.
[01:31] <red22> prince_jammys: no it doesn't work.. i tried (more than once ;)
[01:31] <jcg42> How can I make Amarok look more like the human theme?
[01:31] <Nissan_350Z> anyone know how to request a Alternative CD on the Shipit page? that didnt help... my computer is too slow for the LiveCD
[01:31] <k1ng> how do i use firefox downloading a file via "open with" and bash script i try: mv $1 /home/k1ng/Desktop/ but no avail.. :(
[01:31] <red22> prince_jammys: you'd figure that they would have included this as default behavior by now though right
[01:31] <amenado> Devo-> okay, then just create from the remaining free spaces,  a  / ,  a swap space and /home partition
[01:32] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> computers are plenty fast, however dial connection maybe slow..
[01:32] <Devo> amenado: How do I create a swap... and do I have to make a /home partition and are those 3 seperate partitions?
[01:33] <prince_jammys> red22: yeah, fortunately after parsing the C: line in the link file, after converting \ to / and scrapping the C:, all you have to do is append the result to the mnt point to get the full path
[01:33] <rhizo> weird, the firefox ProfileManager issue maybe a *firefox2* issue, not an ubuntu bug
[01:33] <amenado> Devo yes 3 partitions, somewhere in the selection you can tell it to make a swap partition
[01:33] <Nissan_350Z> amenado> i have the LiveCD but i need the alternative CD the text based installer ;)
[01:33] <ubuntuga>    hello
[01:33] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi, how do I update this code to work with Gutsy?
[01:33] <Devo> amenado: Ok.
[01:33] <RootyRootRootW00> mplayer -vo null -ao pcm -ao pcm:file=audio.wav:fast dvd://01
[01:33] <Devo> amenado: How big should I make the /home partition?
[01:34] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> while on liveCD and if you have internet connectivity you can download it and save it to hard disk..off course you have to mount the partition before you can store to it
[01:34] <Nissan_350Z> amenado> when i start the LiveCD to install it locksup
[01:34] <red22> prince_jammys: i'm just worried about having to handle different file types... what command would send the file name to gnome for opening with the appropriately associated program?
[01:34] <Nissan_350Z> amenado> i have really slow internet, lol
[01:34] <k1ng> how do i use firefox downloading a file via "open with" and bash script i try: mv $1 /home/k1ng/Desktop/ but no avail.. :(
[01:34] <amenado> Devo make / about 7-10gig  /swap about 2x your ramsize  and /home upwards of several gigs
[01:34] <rhizo> let me rephrase:  was anyone able to use n+1 firefox2.* profiles simultaneously under *any* OS ?
[01:34] <Nissan_350Z> i need a boot command to disable somethings so it ill run, know of any?
[01:34] <vrkhans> arbir i found the firefox directory in /etc , there is a profile directory but in that dir there is no lock and .parentlock file/
[01:35] <RootyRootRootW00> HI, how do I  update this code to wrok in Gutsy?     mplayer -vo null -ao pcm -ao pcm:file=audio.wav:fast dvd://01
[01:35] <arbir> vrkhans:  in ur home directory there should be a .mozilla directory
[01:35] <prince_jammys> red22: you can probably do this from the gui (move the final prog somewhere like /usr/local, for example)
[01:35] <arbir> vrkhans: can you confirm that ?
[01:35] <prince_jammys> red22: !defaultapp
[01:35] <vrkhans> in my home dir there is only the example dir
[01:35] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> it may just be taking its sweet time to show you things, while booting, you can ctrl +alt+F1 F2 F3 .. to see what is going on, also you have to be patient..liveCD is slow indeed
[01:35] <vrkhans> no other dir
[01:35] <prince_jammys> !defaultapp | red22 might just do it on its own
[01:35] <ubotu> red22 might just do it on its own: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[01:36] <Nissan_350Z> oh ok, amenado :D thanks a bunch, its running 160MB of ram though
[01:36] <Nissan_350Z> so i should continue with the LiveCD?
[01:36] <prince_jammys> red22: then when you click on it the shell would run :::   /usr/local/bin/your_prog  file.lnk
[01:36] <vrkhans> arbir in my home dir i have only two dir desktop and examples
[01:37] <arbir> vrkhans: ls -la
[01:37] <Devo> amenado: When I made my / partition from the free space and made it only 10 GB from the 30 GB of free space, it turned the leftover 20 GB into unusable space...
[01:37] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> how else are you going to download the alternate cd?
[01:37] <tanath> i'm unable to type in a java-based app. anyone know why that might be? i've seen this before, but before i was able to fix it somehow
[01:37] <prince_jammys> red22: and the file name would be $1 in your prog
[01:37] <leeping2009> LjL: The systemimager worked !!!
[01:37] <tanath> i can click to change the focus, but it ignores my typing
[01:37] <arbir> vrkhans: you will have to open the prompt window
[01:37] <Nissan_350Z> amenado> i thought they would have a Alternative CD they could send me
[01:37] <amenado> Devo-> you dont like to make a separate one for /home? how about /swap  ?  dont forget this /swap
[01:38] <vrkhans> arbir you mean the xterm
[01:38] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> they probably do, ask them nicely :)
[01:38] <Devo> amenado: I can't make /swap... the free space turned into unusable space...
[01:38] <vrkhans> i am on that
[01:38] <nano__> what is the name of the bar in ubuntu which has "Application", "Places" , "Systesm"
[01:38] <nano__> etc..
[01:38] <leeping2009> LjL: Thanks again for helping out.  Now I can clone the system over to the other twelve computers
[01:38] <tanath> nano_, gnome panel?
[01:38] <arbir> vrkhans: any place where you can type in the commans from command line  basically a CLI
[01:38] <clic1> how to get to windows share from linux? I am linux newbie
[01:38] <nano__> tanath: so i guess the bottom bar is called the taskbar
[01:38] <Nissan_350Z> amenado> how do i ask them (and i am soo sorry if i am bugging you i am soo excited about ubuntu) :D
[01:38] <nano__> tanath: thn
[01:38] <nano__> x
[01:38] <amenado> Devo-> these are now logical or extended partitions, are you sure you have plenty of left over spaces?
[01:38] <vrkhans> arbir i am there what you want me to do
[01:39] <Scunizi> nano_, menu bar
[01:39] <arbir> vrkhans: cd .mozilla
[01:39] <nano__> sweet
[01:39] <warcaptai1> anyone can help me with questions regarding setting up a LAMP On ubuntu?
[01:39] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> i thought you have to send an email and such to make a request yesh?
[01:39] <red22> prince_jammys: yeah like that it would, except that we wouldn't be clicking on it directly... we'd click on a .lnk file that is associated with our script, but then our script needs to actually launch what is being pointed to...
[01:39] <krim> Anyone know how to change font size of .ass subtitles in mplayer? I tried adding ass-force-style=FontSize=1 in /home/user/.mplayer/config but that didn't change anything. Also how can I reset the brightness/contrast/saturation settings?
[01:39] <tanath> Scunizi, no, that's the "File, Edit, View" etc, in a specific app
[01:39] <nano_> sup
[01:39] <Devo> amenado: I am sure, but it won't let me use 20 GB now...
[01:39] <tanath> nano_, it's the gnome panel
[01:40] <nano__> tanath: thnx , i guess it is
[01:40] <dsoffs> can anyone tell me how to use aircrack?
[01:40] <Nissan_350Z> amenado> on the ShipIt page you make requests for PC's and 64Bit computers but no Alternative
[01:40] <dsoffs> :)
[01:40] <amenado> Devo un-do what you have made and restart the partitioning
[01:40] <Nissan_350Z> !Alternative
[01:40] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[01:40] <warcaptai1> unfortunately i fiddled around a bit too much with installing stuff for a LAMP server and now i think ive messed it up too much
[01:40] <Devo> amenado: Ok, done.
[01:40] <tanath> nano_, the actual app is 'gnome-panel'
[01:40] <vrkhans> arbir no such file or dir
[01:40] <warcaptai1> its not just as easy as removing packages because they dont completely remove stuff
[01:40] <TopRamen> hey guys, do remove vnc connections HAVE to be made via an ssh tunnel or can I forward port 5900 and have the remote user connect like that?
[01:40] <vrkhans> i am in /home
[01:40] <tanath> nano_, the menu bar is the bar with "file, edit, view' etc. in a given app
[01:40] <red22> prince_jammys: and in the program just "`$1" would launch the correctly associated program for the file being linked to?
[01:40] <dsoffs> :)
[01:40] <prince_jammys> red22: right ..... mmm the launching part is what's difficult, unless you know how gnome works
[01:40] <dsoffs> can anyone tell me how to use aircrack?
[01:40] <spudratic0> ok people thanks I have enough of a log to read for tonight you guys are alright later all
[01:40] <nano__> tanath: so what is the bar at the bottom
[01:40] <pawan> hi
[01:40] <arbir> vrkhans: goto your home directory
[01:40] <amenado> TopRamen-> no requirements that VNC must use ssh,
[01:40] <arbir> vrkhans: just type in cd
[01:41] <pawan> how to install oracle 11g on ubuntu
[01:41] <astro76> TopRamen: you can, but all text is transmitted in the clear
[01:41] <arbir> vrkhans: you should be in /home/yourusername/
[01:41] <tanath> nano_, well, that's the gnome panel too. same app, but it's referred to as the task bar
[01:41] <emma> Hi. My Nautilus keeps on crashing. The temporary solution is that I go to terminal and type:  killall nautilus. That fixes it. For a while...
[01:41] <TopRamen> amenado: ok
[01:41] <amenado> TopRamen-> only if you want it secured
[01:41] <dsoffs> can anyone tell me how to use aircrack?
[01:41] <atrus> my laptop's ps2 keyboard and touchpad occasionally stop working completely, usually with a key stuck repeating. i can plug in an external mouse to hit suspend & resume, at which point everything works right again. i'm sort of lost as to what to investigate. any ideas?
[01:41] <emma> Does anyone have any idea how to fix it for good?
[01:41] <TopRamen> astro76: ok, for some reason what I read made it sound like it HAD to be done via an SSH tunnel
[01:41] <red22> prince_jammys: i'm sure it's just some specific program to send it to.. whatever that gnome launcher is.. probably nautilus or some component of it.. will look this up, hold on
[01:41] <emma> If I were to open nautilus with terminal would it output some useful data when it crashes the next time?
[01:42] <TopRamen> amenado: so, after enabling the feature (don't have any firewall as far as I can tell) and forwarding the port... it should just work?
[01:42] <clic1> QUESTION: how to get to windows share from Linux? I am Linux newbie
[01:42] <dsoffs> can anyone tell me how to use aircrack?
[01:42] <tanath> emma, probably
[01:42] <TopRamen> amenado: do I need to install any specific packages?
[01:42] <vrkhans> ok arbir i foud mozilla
[01:42] <Nissan_350Z> amenado> if you can find anyboot options that will speed it up, like hopefully disable the LiveCD and get on with installing it or run the LiveCD and speed it up so it will run. Thats why i need a boot option to type in
[01:42] <prince_jammys> red22: the prog produces a full path, but who executes it?  that you could do one of two ways: hard-code certain file types (eg launch .txt with gedit, launch .doc with openoffice) or figure out how gnome does it
[01:42] <arbir> vrkhans: then change dir to firefox
[01:42] <amenado> TopRamen-> install the vncviewer ..what about the other end? what you have there?
[01:42] <tanath> dsoffs, google it? check the man page?
[01:42] <vrkhans> arbir i am in side firefox/and some dir
[01:42] <arbir> vrkhans: you will see a weird looking dir
[01:42] <dsoffs> tanath, ahah
[01:43] <TopRamen> amenado: I'm the host... don't I want vnc-server?
[01:43] <vrkhans> ok there is lock
[01:43] <vrkhans> in there
[01:43] <arbir> vrkhans: inside that weird named dir, you will find a file called lock and .parentlock
[01:43] <emma> tanath no that doesn't work afterall. It looks like Nautilus automatically disowns the terminal.
[01:43] <dsoffs> i found a wireless acesspoing named "keep out" how can i find the WEP key with aircrack?
[01:43] <arbir> vrkhans: delete that file
[01:43] <arbir> vrkhans: delete both those files
[01:43] <tanath> emma, ah, yeah, some apps do that
[01:43] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> I dont know of anyway to speed it up, its dependent on your cdrom, how fast it can read and how much ram you have to dump what it reads
[01:43] <tanath> emma, you can check the .xsession-errors file
[01:43] <tanath> emma, in ~
[01:43] <dsoffs> seeing how long i can go before getting kickd.
[01:43] <amenado> TopRamen yes for the host, you need the vnc server
[01:43] <jimcooncat> TopRamen: do you want to share the screen you're working on, or forward a new session?
[01:44] <emma> I'm not quite sure what to do. Every time it crashes I guess I can open terminal and type killall nautilus, but it shouldnt have to be like that.
[01:44] <Nissan_350Z> its a 52X CD-Burner but 160MB of Ram, so im running at minimal RAM to use the live CD
[01:44] <Devo> amenado: Why do I want a /home partition?
[01:44] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: share the screen I'm working on
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> Devo,  makes backups/upgrades/clean isntalls easier
[01:44] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: I just tried connection locally and it worked but the other user is trying to connect and it's failing
[01:45] <amenado> Devo lets just say, if your / get screwed, your data in /home is safe, easily recoverable
[01:45] <TopRamen> he's connecting from an OS x machine
[01:45] <tanath> i'm unable to type in frostwire. can anyone help?
[01:45] <Devo> amenado: haha, sweet! :)
[01:45] <vrkhans> arbir i did rm lock and rm .parentlock
[01:45] <Dr_willis_> tanath,  disable compiz if you are using compiz
[01:45] <vrkhans> now what should i do
[01:45] <arbir> vrkhans: now startup your firefox
[01:45] <tanath> Dr_willis, i am, but i'd really rather not... :/
[01:45] <jimcooncat> TopRamen: if you use gnome, you can use System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[01:45] <Leechzilla> Does mplayer use gstreamer plugins, or something else?
[01:45] <Leechzilla> *codecs
[01:45] <tanath> Dr_willis_, is there a plugin i can disable instead?
[01:46] <Devo> amenado: I got this error again. "File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 20017 (39957 expected); size of FATs is 79 sectors (157 expected)."
[01:46] <d4rkmonkey> This might be a bit of a weird question... but here we go... I have iTunes running in a virtual machine so that I could use the store (had a gift certificate). I'm burning the songs to a CD, so that I can rip the DRM off of them, but for some reason its either telling me that The CD is not blank(which it is...) or it runs through the checks then does nothing... anyone have any ideas on how I can get the CDs to
[01:46] <d4rkmonkey> start burning? It recognizes my CD drive, and one CD burnt somehow...
[01:46] <vrkhans> ok thanks but why it happeing , it never happend like this before
[01:46] <Nissan_350Z> Anyone know of any boot options to help with the LiveCD? Because it Always freezes. i need to type in a boot option to disable somethings on the liveCD
[01:46] <Dr_willis_> tanath,  no idea. theres bugs with java and compiz. Check the compiz site. There may be some tweaks ya can do in the ccsm tool.
[01:46] <tanath> emma, did you check your .xsession-errors file?
[01:47] <tanath> Dr_willis_, hm. ok, thanks for the lead
[01:47] <Dr_willis_> tanath,  assuming it is a java/compiz issue
[01:47] <emma> I need to find it..
[01:47] <jimcooncat> TopRamen: vncserver is more useful if another user wants to pop into their own account on your computer
[01:47] <amenado> Devo I'd ignore it for now, somehow when you originally partitioned your hd, they were not in the expected boundaries, so it complained
[01:47] <tanath> Dr_willis_, probably
[01:47] <Docfxit> I can't get to a web site. Why?
[01:47] <Devo> amenado: Will this mess up my XP partition? It won't break it?
[01:47] <tanath> emma, as i said, in your home dir
[01:47] <usr13> Docfxit: What website?
[01:47] <Docfxit> Any website.
[01:48] <Nissan_350Z> Anyone know of any boot options to help with the LiveCD? Because it Always freezes. i need to type in a boot option to disable somethings on the liveCD i am running 160MB of Ram on it.
[01:48] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: yah I'm running gnome and had set it up via System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[01:48] <tanath> emma, ~/.xsession-errors
[01:48] <kostkon> Leechzilla, you can make mplayer to use the windows codecs if you like. for all the other formats, it has all the codecs already.
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Nissan_350Z: acpi=off, pci=irqroute, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, vga=791, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, ide=nodma, nomce, pnpbios=off, xdrvr=vesa, res=800x600, apm=off,pci=noapci, noapic, nolapic, all_generic_ide, nolapic, pci=assign-busses, pci=irqpoll, pci=biosirq, pnpbios=off, hpet=disable
[01:48] <usr13> Docfxit: can you ping your router?
[01:48] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: and I can connect from the local network but the other user cannot
[01:48] <Docfxit> yes.
[01:48] <amenado> Devo it should not, just dont touch your sda1 to sda3, work only on your new unformatted free spaces
[01:48] <Nissan_350Z> Jack, all of those?
[01:48] <usr13> Docfxit:  host av.com
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Nissan_350Z: that is very marginal on ram
[01:48] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: I mean he cannot connect from a remote network
[01:48] <emma> Here we go
[01:48] <emma> I'm getting a lot of this:
[01:48] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: let me make sure his remote traffic isn't firwalled
[01:48] <jimcooncat> TopRamen: is the other user going across the internet to you?
[01:48] <TopRamen> firewalled
[01:48] <emma> (nautilus:6242): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
[01:48] <emma> (nautilus:6242): GdkPixb
[01:48] <emma> ...Too much output, ignoring rest...
[01:48] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: yep
[01:48] <tanath> emma, don't paste a lot in here
[01:48] <Nissan_350Z> ok, Jack i will type all of those in
[01:48] <tanath> emma, use a pastebin
[01:49] <Docfxit> usr13 » I can ping any IP address on the web.
[01:49] <emma> That was it.
[01:49] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: and he's connecting the the same session as me because he wants to show me something
[01:49] <tanath> k
[01:49] <emma> There's a lot in the log but I only pasted that much.
[01:49] <Leechzilla> kostkon: Does the mplayer that comes with Ubuntu support VC1, or do I need to compile it from source? I'm getting only audio, and no video
[01:49] <jimcooncat> TopRamen: more than likely is firewalled, or you need to forward the port from your router
[01:49] <emma> that's the last three lines of the log
[01:49] <Nissan_350Z> thanks sooo very much! you dont know how much i appreciate it!
[01:49] <usr13> Docfxit: Are  you just not resolving domain names?
[01:49] <usr13> Docfxit:  host av.com
[01:49] <Docfxit> usr13 » I can't ping a domain name.
[01:49] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: already forwarded the port on my end
[01:49] <emma> everything above that is just the same thing repeated
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Nissan_350Z: YOu never use all, usually just one or two..  If you only have 160 megs and are sharing ram with onboard video you need to rethink things.
[01:49] <Docfxit> usr13 » yes.
[01:49] <tanath> emma, i've seen that before... i don't remember what the issue was or what fixed it though...
[01:49] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> were you not missing the ramdisk option? hehehe j/k
[01:49] <Nissan_350Z> hmm
[01:49] <outsane> has anyone here installed virtualbox?
[01:49] <usr13> Docfxit: Then just add nameserver(s) to /etc/resolv.conf
[01:49] <nerdzoncrack> I'm trying to customize my desktop and I can't check any box in the compiz configuration manager... Anyone got an advice?
[01:49] <tanath> emma, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:50] <TheZealot> Anyone know what might cuase .deb files not to open when i click on them?
[01:50] <emma> Gutsy
[01:50] <FourX4Luvn> emma: You brokeded your computer again already?  ;-)
[01:50] <tanath> emma, i think you may need to update
[01:50] <tanath> emma, hmm
[01:50] <jimcooncat> outsane: yes, but not at this location
[01:50] <usr13> Docfxit: Or, hit the dhpc server again; sudo dhclient
[01:50] <emma> I did :|
[01:50] <Flannel> TheZealot: try dpkg -i [deb], see what errors it gives you
[01:50] <emma> How can I update, I'm running gutsy
[01:50] <usr13> Docfxit: dhcp not dhpc
[01:50] <TheZealot> flannel: it works fine that way
[01:50] <kostkon> kostkon, I don't really know. Since it seems to be a microsoft codec, maybe if you install the w32codecs (windows codecs) it will play fine
[01:50] <TheZealot> just doesn't work when I click on it
[01:50] <FourX4Luvn> emma: "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:50] <usr13> Docfxit: sudo /sbin/dhclient eth0
[01:50] <jimcooncat> outsane: I use it at work all the time
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Nissan_350Z: noapic is one of the more common options that works  apci=off is another common one
[01:50] <outsane> jimcooncat: okay, i'm installing the .deb file, but how will i open virtualbox once the deb file is done?  i've never used a deb file before.
[01:50] <kostkon> oops!
[01:50] <tanath> emma, no, gutsy is the latest release
[01:51] <kostkon> Leechzilla, , I don't really know. Since it seems to be a microsoft codec, maybe if you install the w32codecs (windows codecs) it will play fine
[01:51] <tanath> emma, but have you been updating software?
[01:51] <usr13> Docfxit: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:51] <tanath> emma, keeping your system up to date?
[01:51] <Creationist> !wireless
[01:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal > Nissan_350Z
[01:51] <amenado> !clone
[01:51] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[01:51] <usr13> Docfxit: see if the nameservers are in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:51] <TheZealot> it says, 'No run action specified for files of this type (application/x-deb) - you can set a run action by choosing 'Set Run Action' from the file menu'
[01:51] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: is the defailt port 5900?
[01:51] <TopRamen> defualt
[01:52] <jimcooncat> outsane: I got mine from the repository. But you can open a command prompt, and try entering virtualbox
[01:52] <usr13> Docfxit: See if you can ping your nameservers
[01:52] <kostkon> Leechzilla, do you have the w32codecs package already installed in your system?
[01:52] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: or is 5900 default for internal connections and 5800 default for external
[01:52] <tanath> emma, actually, i think that's a gtk issue. possibly due to your theme. despite the warning about being critical, that shouldn't be a critical issue. shouldn't be crashing nautilus
[01:52] <jimcooncat> outsane: When I got it from the repository, it set up a menu entry for me
[01:52] <Leechzilla> kostkon: I don't think so. I don't see it in synaptic
[01:52] <outsane> jimcooncat: okay, at the risk of sounding very ignorant, what exactly is the repository?  i've heard it a lot but i don't actually know what it is.
[01:52] <jimcooncat> TopRamen: one is for regular vnc, one for java access. I'll check
[01:53] <TopRamen> k
[01:53] <tanath> emma, have you changed your theme or anything?
[01:53] <kostkon> Leechzilla, yes. you have to add the Medibuntu repository to your software sources. Please, go to http://medibuntu.org/ and follow the instructions on how to add it
[01:53] <Nissan_350Z> !minimal | Nissan_350Z
[01:53] <Nissan_350Z> !minimal
[01:53] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:53] <amenado> outsane same english meaning of repository, where things are stored
[01:53] <Leechzilla> kostkon, okay, will try that. thanks
[01:53] <jimcooncat> !repositories
[01:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[01:53] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: thanks
[01:53] <jimcooncat> outsane, what ubotu said
[01:54] <tanath> emma, i found a command that may help. you can try this in a terminal: gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders
[01:54] <jimcooncat> TopRamen: I think its 5900
[01:54] <prince_jammys> red22: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56572/
[01:54] <outsane> jimcooncat: are they stored on my computer or online?
[01:54] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: yah 5900 is correct... did some checking myself
[01:54] <Nissan_350Z> !Alternate
[01:54] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[01:54] <Nissan_350Z> err
[01:54] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: his outbound traffic isn't restricted at all yet he still cannot connect
[01:54] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: have no idea why
[01:54] <TopRamen> jimcooncat: my port forwarding rules are setup properly too
[01:55] <jimcooncat> outsane, the repositories are where your computer gets it's updates from off the 'net
[01:55] <emma> I got this: bash: /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders: Permission denied
[01:55] <tanath> emma, ok, try with sudo then
[01:55] <FourX4Luvn> emma: prefix that with 'sudo'
[01:55] <tanath> emma, thought you might get that
[01:56] <amenado> TopRamen-> what is his ip address? and how is he attempting to connect to your host?
[01:56] <jimcooncat> TopRamen, sorry, I can't figure that out either
[01:56] <emma> I did it with sudo and got the same warning.
[01:56] <tanath> emma, if it doesn't seem to work right away, try logging out and back in first. if it still doesn't work, make sure your system is up to date
[01:56] <TopRamen> amenado: don't know his ip... he's using JollysFastVNC for Mac OS X
[01:56] <tanath> emma, what? that shouldn't be
[01:56] <outsane> jimcooncat: okay, but if i installed the .deb file without using a repository, where can i find it now?
[01:56] <amenado> TopRamen-> what is his exact command to connect to you?
[01:57] <soap> 7.10 is on the 2.6.22 kernel  8.04 is on the 2.6.24 kernel (IIRC) - how much am I likely to break if I install the 2.6.24 kernel on 7.10?
[01:57] <red22> prince_jammys: gnome-open is the app :)
[01:57] <Flannel> soap: yes.
[01:57] <prince_jammys> red22: hah
[01:57] <amenado> soap you can try and let us know
[01:57] <jimcooncat> outsane, if you install the .deb file, you'd:
[01:57] <emma> Yeah with sudo first I get the same thing: bash: /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders: Permission denied
[01:57] <prince_jammys> red22: well then you're pretty much set
[01:58] <jimcooncat> outsane: following command from your terminal(Applications—>Accessories— >Termianl)
[01:58] <jimcooncat> outsane: VirtualBox
[01:58] <Nissan_350Z> ok leats try this again i used apci=off
[01:58] <capital86> is anyone in here familar with beryl?
[01:58] <outsane> jimcooncat: i didn't use the terminal, i have a program that installs them for me.
[01:58] <soap> I'm not asking about kernel issues - I'm asking about the rest of the system's dependence on one particular kernel.
[01:58] <jimcooncat> outsane: capitalization would be important
[01:58] <red22> prince_jammys: yup and so are you, or you dont' think you'd find this useful? don't use windows often enough to find this useful?
[01:58] <emma> I will try logging out and logging back in.
[01:58] <jimcooncat> outsane, no, to start it up after installing
[01:59] <prince_jammys> red22: no, not useful to me other than improve my understanding of scripting (and gnome-open)
[01:59] <amenado> soap you can try to run in on vmware or virtualbox and see the effect with no major impact, you can easily remove the virtual disk
[01:59] <jimcooncat> outsane, mine also installed a menu entry under Applications, but I wouldn't know if yours would have
[01:59] <red22> prince_jammys: i'll put it all together and try it out in a bit, i gotta go have dinner though.  i'll bbl and let you know (if you're still here) if all's working fine.
[01:59] <capital86> is anyone in here familar with beryl? I want to install it but I dont know where to start. I'm a noob
[01:59] <prince_jammys> red22: the difficulty in the script (which i solved with the #bash faq) is handling the spaces in files
[02:00] <tanath> capital86, beryl has been deprecated. it's now compiz fusion
[02:00] <capital86> okay
[02:00] <prince_jammys> red22: ok, gotta get something to eat
[02:00] <red22> prince_jammys: well i'm glad we both were able to help each other out and learn something. thanks for the help.
[02:00] <capital86> how do I go about that?
[02:00] <usr13> soap: The rest of the system does not have dependency on a particular kernel version.  It's just that some kernel modules may be left behind, or need bo be rebuild, but that's not all that likely.
[02:00] <prince_jammys> red22: np
[02:00] <fiXXXerMet> !raid | fiXXXerMet
[02:00] <tanath> capital86, just install compiz
[02:00] <tanath> !compiz
[02:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:00] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> why not try all those options Jack gave you? see what improvements you'd get
[02:00] <Scunizi> capital86, are you running 7.10? if so it's already there... sorta.. it's compiz fusion
[02:00] <Nissan_350Z> all of them, at once?
[02:01] <capital86> I'm running what ever is on the ubuntu site
[02:01] <capital86> I just dled it and installed
[02:01] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> why not? see if it works
[02:01] <Nissan_350Z> true
[02:01] <capital86> so what ever is the latest on the site
[02:01] <Nissan_350Z> ok i will
[02:01] <Scunizi> capital86, what kind of video card do you have?
[02:01] <capital86> 8500 gt
[02:01] <soap> thank you usr13 , amenado, Flannel.  I'm trying to chase down a hardware issue, and I have a (naive?) belief that it has been addressed in 2.6.23
[02:02] <Owner> Hi , I have 2 Ubuntu computer in my LAN , I wanna use "rsh" to run a command on the other computer , but when I do this it ask me about a password and I enter root password everytime but It is not accept the password .... so what I ahve to do ?
[02:02] <tanath> capital86, in that case, try enabling the 'desktop effects'
[02:02] <Scunizi> capital86, have you enabled the restricted drivers for nvidia yet?
[02:02] <capital86> ya
[02:02] <capital86> i have
[02:02] <Flannel> soap: Fire up a Hardy liveCD and see.  Thats the easiest, safest way.
[02:02] <tanath> !compiz | capital86
[02:02] <ubotu> capital86: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:02] <usr13> Owner: root password?
[02:02] <usr13> Owner: try user password.
[02:02] <Owner> usr13 I tried bu It ask me just for a password and I enter that but it won't work :(
[02:02] <SuperQ> Owner: You should use SSH and ssh-agent keys
[02:02] <atrus> Owner: unless you have a very very good reason to, never use rsh. use ssh instead.
[02:03] <Scunizi> capital86, ok.. now go to system/preferances/appearance
[02:03] <capital86> okay hold on
[02:03] <capital86> let me start linux
[02:03] <fiXXXerMet> How can I use mdadm to raid1 my current install?  I have ubuntu installed to /dev/sda1 and an identical drive on /dev/sdb1
[02:03] <SuperQ> Owner: http://mah.everybody.org/docs/ssh
[02:03] <Scunizi> capital86, then the Visual Effects tab
[02:03] <usr13> Owner: Are you using the password of the host machine?
[02:03] <capital86> ok
[02:04] <amenado> Owner both machines have same username and uid ?
[02:04] <thechitowncubs> I just configured LDAP authentication for my home network and it takes forever for me to login, are there any known tweaks for this problem?
[02:04] <Scunizi> capital86, what's it set on
[02:04] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: what is the ldap server?
[02:04] <capital86> one second
[02:04] <barbuj> hello everyone
[02:04] <capital86> I just restarted
[02:04] <amenado> thechitowncubs-> but did it even authenticate you?
[02:04] <thechitowncubs> SuperQ: it is linux
[02:04] <thechitowncubs> amenado: yes it did
[02:04] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: you may need to install nscd, but unless it's a busy ldap server it shouldn't be that slow
[02:04] <soap> Flannel, duh!  That's a fine idea!
[02:04] <barbuj> what is a good tool to write html documentation in?
[02:04] <thechitowncubs> SuperQ:  its Ubuntu 7.10
[02:05] <Lgndryhr> hey everyone. hope all is well
[02:05] <Docfxit> usr13 »Thank you. I knew I had DNS in the file. After you asked me to look in there I saw they were the wrong DNS. It's all fixed now. Thank you
[02:05] <amenado> thechitowncubs-> maybe you have to tweak  pam  and the /etc/nsswitch
[02:05] <soap> I've been doing binary hardware swaps one reboot at a time for 3 days now - and I never fucking thought of that!
[02:05] <Owner> is better to say , I have 1 Ubuntu and 1 Freebsd and I have to use "rsh" and I have to use that on the ubuntu machine, In ubuntu when I enter "rsh microsoft8.com" (which is domain name of my FreeBSD computer) it just ask me a Password !!!! what I have to do :((
[02:05] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: what's in /etc/nsswitch.conf on the client for passwd
[02:05] <soap> feel like a dumbass.
[02:05] <capital86> okay, how do I get to it again
[02:05] <capital86> ubuntu is up
[02:05] <Scunizi> capital86, brb
[02:05] <capital86> k
[02:05] <Lgndryhr> how come i can connect to my wireless internet on an older kernel but on my newest one
[02:05] <Nissan_350Z> wow the apci=off is making it run faster and its not making any noise like it normally does when it loads
[02:06] <barbuj> anybody know a good tool that i can use to create documentation for a project?
[02:06] <GunbladeIV> anyone, why is my internet connection download rate is high while i'm doing nothing with internet?
[02:06] <tanath> !compiz | capital86
[02:06] <ubotu> capital86: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:06] <GunbladeIV> could sumone help me?
[02:06] <SuperQ> barbuj: heh, there are 1000s of tools
[02:06] <emma> Tanath, well I restarted it. I don't know..
[02:06] <thechitowncubs> SuperQ: compat ldap
[02:06] <barbuj> interested in html output, with a table of contents and links to prev, next pages etc
[02:06] <usr13> Owner: use -l switch and specify username of host and then give corresponding password.
[02:06] <barbuj> SuperQ: can you point out a few of them?
[02:06] <Scunizi> capital86, go to System/Preferances/Appearance/Effects
[02:06] <emma> tanath, nautilus always starts out working. It seems to work for a while and then unpredictably crash.
[02:06] <capital86> okay
[02:07] <tanath> emma, what exactly happens?
[02:07] <SuperQ> barbuj: Hrm, docbook is probably more complicated than you want
[02:07] <tanath> hm
[02:07] <Owner> usr13 is there any other why becuase I wanna use pvm and there is no -l for pvm
[02:07] <capital86> it was set on none...but I changed it to extra
[02:07] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: try "files ldap"
[02:07] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: I find it works better
[02:07] <tanath> capital86, that should do it
[02:07] <capital86> okay
[02:07] <amenado> thechitowncubs-> maybe you have to tweak  pam.d or whatever pam module authenticate you
[02:07] <usr13> I don't know
[02:07] <Scunizi> capital86, ok.. now go to System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager
[02:07] <tanath> capital86, ccsm is the plugin configure thingy
[02:08] <barbuj> SuperQ: this project is really small, so nothing complicated... but I would still like to learn a good tool that could be used to document something  bigger projects, as well
[02:08] <emma> This is the way it goes: I'll be listening to some music, and clicking on the music icons to load another song, and all is well, and then I'll click on a music icon (a note) to play a song, and nothing happens, except the note turns into a piece of paper, and from that point on Nautilus is crashsed. No other files will open.
[02:08] <tanath> capital86, you can just run 'ccsm' (press alt+f2 to get the run box)
[02:08] <joecurlee> hi... running 7.10 and just installed e-geforce 7200 GS video card... using restricted driver nvidia... i'm plugged in to a 1920 x 1080 wide screen lcd tv via HDMI... for some reason i can't see the whole desktop (not seeing top or bottom bars)
[02:08] <capital86> okay I opened the package manager
[02:08] <GunbladeIV> could sumone help me?
[02:08] <thechitowncubs> amenado and SuperQ: when I do getent passwd, the local returns come instantly, ldap returns take quite a few seconds
[02:08] <GunbladeIV> anyone, why is my internet connection download rate is high while i'm doing nothing with internet?
[02:08] <GunbladeIV> anyone, why is my internet connection download rate is high while i'm doing nothing with internet?
[02:08] <usr13> Owner: If both machines have same user, then you do not have to use  -l
[02:08] <macabro22> How do I switch between cursor themes?
[02:08] <Scunizi> capital86, once synaptic is loaded search for compiz. Then look for Compiz Config Settings manager. Right click and choose install then apply
[02:09] <arfonzo> hi guys, can anyone tell me how to remove all X-related packages?
[02:09] <tanath> capital86, there's also more plugins in there if you search for 'compiz'
[02:09] <mneptok> !repeat | GunbladeIV
[02:09] <ubotu> GunbladeIV: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:09] <joecurlee> also after closing windows I can see faint outlines of them left behind until i open other windows
[02:09] <tanath> capital86, in synaptic i mean
[02:09] <icesword> arfonzo, wht u want
[02:09] <capital86> okay
[02:09] <capital86> I just found compiz
[02:09] <GunbladeIV> !patience
[02:09] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:09] <arfonzo> icesword: to remove xserver, ubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: try apt-get install nscd
[02:09] <Scunizi> capital86, look for the configuration manager and plugins extra and main
[02:09] <tanath> capital86, and he was telling you to install the ccsm i was just talking about, which i forgot
[02:09] <arfonzo> everything gnome related, everything that uses X i want to remove
[02:09] <emma> now X11 isn't working though.
[02:10] <barbuj> SuperQ: besides docbook, what else could i try?
[02:10] <icesword> arfonzo, why do you do that,isn;t x window good
[02:10] <amenado> thechitowncubs-> how about your adding an entry to your /etc/hosts  for your ldap server?  just thinking wildy here
[02:10] <Nissan_350Z> !apci
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <SuperQ> barbuj: sorry, I don't really know
[02:10] <macabro22> alguém sabe como trocar o  tema do nouse?
[02:10] <Nissan_350Z> lol
[02:10] <macabro22> ops
[02:10] <Nissan_350Z> what is a apci?
[02:10] <jimcooncat> arfonzo: you don't have to remove it to just not use it -- unless you need the space
[02:10] <barbuj> ok, thank you though
[02:10] <Scunizi> capital86, are you installing?
[02:10] <mneptok> !acpi
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <capital86> hey scunizi could you make another channel
[02:10] <Nissan_350Z> !apci
[02:10] <hotmonkeyluv> what's a good cool dock (like the apple dock) that has nice graphics and is basically a program launcher. I've tried Kiba-dock, but I get a core dump when it tries to run.
[02:10] <capital86> its hard for me to read in here
[02:10] <arfonzo> jimcooncat: i wouldn't be asking unless i really wanted to remove it.
[02:10] <icesword> arfonzo, maybe it is sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <Scunizi> capital86, sure..
[02:10] <capital86> ty
[02:11] <arfonzo> no icesword
[02:11] <usr13> arfonzo: Probably; apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[02:11] <macabro22> How do I change between X cursor themes?
[02:11] <mneptok> !awn | hotmonkeyluv
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <tanath> emma, say what? sorry, i keep missing your comments. if you use a person's name, it highlights that comment for them
[02:11] <mneptok> *boggle*
[02:11] <arfonzo> no usr13, it doesn't remove gnome stuff
[02:11] <mneptok> hotmonkeyluv: AWN
[02:11] <thechitowncubs> amenado: yep, already there, will try the nscd
[02:11] <arfonzo> i haven't been able to figure it out
[02:11] <Scunizi> capital86, it's open.. do you see it?
[02:11] <hotmonkeyluv> mneptok: i'll check it out, thanks
[02:11] <arfonzo> ok, i guess i'll post to forums
[02:12] <usr13> arfonzo: Probably; apt-get remove xserver-xorg* *gnome*
[02:12] <Agent_bob> arfonzo "if you are sure you want to remove all non-essential packages"  for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -b3` ;do apt-get remove --purge -y "$Q" ;done
[02:12] <icesword> arfonzo, then why not use server edition without x pre-installed
[02:12] <jimcooncat> arfonzo: wish I could be more help there. I did same thing, just reinstalled after backing up.
[02:12] <tanath> emma, why is X not working? what did you do?
[02:12] <jimcooncat> arfonzo: I meant I installed the server setup instead
[02:12] <arfonzo> icesword: i started from that, somewhere along the way via dependencies it installed X, then gnome, and all this nonsense I don't need/want
[02:13] <arfonzo> somehow ubuntu-server has become ubuntu-desktop, i want to remove all that X crap
[02:13] <Scunizi> capital86, ???
[02:13] <icesword> hehe
[02:13] <emma> I don't know. But before I logged out and back in my logitech trackerball mouse was working and now it isn't working right.
[02:13] <Lgndryhr> i cannot connect to my wireless internet on my newest kernel, 2.6.22, but can on my next available one, 2.6.17
[02:13] <n00b> anyone know a program who starts after gnome was started?
[02:13] <arbir> how do i increase the size of the menu font ?
[02:13] <emma> I really didn't do anything except log out.
[02:13] <n00b> I need to modify it
[02:13] <Leechzilla> Does the mplayer that comes with Ubuntu support VC1, or do I need to compile it from source? I'm getting only audio, and no video
[02:13] <Leechzilla> ffvc1
[02:14] <n00b> Leechzilla: do you get the codecs?
[02:14] <arbir> the three menu items, Applications, Places, System are too small
[02:14] <john_> SuperQ: THANK YOU so much, nscd was the trick
[02:14] <usr13> arfonzo: Probably; apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <Leechzilla> n00b: I'm not sure which codec I need
[02:14] <tanath> emma, how long have you been using ubuntu?
[02:14] <hotmonkeyluv> mneptok: how do I find out if i use Xgl or AIXgl?
[02:14] <n00b> may be you need the win32 codecs...
[02:14] <arfonzo> no usr13 that is just a metapackage not a real package afaik.
[02:15] <Leechzilla> n00b: I have it already
[02:15] <icesword> !codec
[02:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <tanath> emma, did  you have to configure your mouse before? or did it just work
[02:15] <DG19075> n00b: go to System>Preferences>Appearance and then click the Fonts tab
[02:15] <Agent_bob> arfonzo "you can follow that command with"  apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-base      "and that should put you back at 'server install' state"
[02:15] <emma> I configured it before.
[02:15] <SuperQ> john_: yea, nscd is good and bad in many many ways
[02:15] <emma> I edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:15] <Kalamansi> hello I check my cables using cable tester looks 100% okay.but when I plug/unplug it still no internet in ubuntu desktop 7.10....
[02:16] <tanath> emma, how long ago was this? have you rebooted, or logged out and back in since then?
[02:16] <emma> It's very mysterious to me why it would suddenly stop working.
[02:16] <SuperQ> john_: There are several replacement nscd servers out there that suck less
[02:16] <usr13> arfonzo: Probably; apt-get remove  ubuntu-desktop  xserver-xorg*
[02:16] <thechitowncubs> SuperQ: probably fine for my small home network, right?
[02:16] <tanath> emma, or is this the first time
[02:16] <emma> Yes several times. I've logged out and rebooted and even had the power off since then.
[02:16] <capital86> scunizi you here
[02:16] <capital86> ?
[02:16] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: yea, probably fine
[02:16] <tanath> emma, ok, could be a few things.. arg
[02:16] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: nscd is prone to wedging in stupid stupid ways due to the way it was written
[02:16] <Darkmystere> I cant connect to my WEP Secured network with my WEP key but it connects right away in windows..
[02:17] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: and the glibc maintainers refuse to fix it
[02:17] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: http://code.google.com/p/gnscd/
[02:17] <mohbana> hey guys, where is that natbib for texlive found, because its not in mine
[02:17] <Agent_bob> usr13 you should really test that command before you recommend it...
[02:17] <SuperQ> thechitowncubs: some people at Google wrote a new one from scratch
[02:17] <usr13> Agent_bob: haha, why don't you test it for us.  :)
[02:17] <tanath> emma, have you run any graphical (not terminal) apps as root? like, with sudo?
[02:18] <arfonzo> usr13: thanks, do you guys have any recommendations to get rid of all these gnome libs? it doesn't seem to go with ubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <usr13> Agent_bob: But best that the user will test it and report back to us.
[02:18] <Agent_bob> usr13 i have,  and your command wont come anywhere close to what he asked for
[02:18]  * rhizo solves multiple simultaneous firefox profiles problem
[02:18] <rhizo> alias fox='export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1; firefox -ProfileManager &'
[02:18] <rhizo> did the trick
[02:18] <emma> No none.
[02:18] <thechitowncubs> SuperQ: interesting, thanks
[02:18] <capital86> hey guys I need help installing beryl
[02:18] <tanath> emma, 'sudo nautilus' perhaps?
[02:19] <tanath> emma, well, let's check this anyway
[02:19] <usr13> Agent_bob: Then what is the solution?
[02:19] <emma> It's possible I did that. I don't recall.
[02:19] <rhizo> adios ubunteros, happy tweakin =)
[02:19] <tanath> emma, in terminal, what does this give you: echo $XAUTHORITY
[02:19] <Agent_bob> arfonzo "if you are sure you want to remove all non-essential packages"  for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -b3` ;do apt-get remove --purge -y "$Q" ;done
[02:19] <Agent_bob> arfonzo "you can follow that command with"  apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-base      "and that should put you back at 'server install' state"
[02:20] <Agent_bob> usr13 i already told him way ^ up there  and just again.
[02:20] <emma> /home/emma/.Xauthority
[02:20] <Lgndryhr> i cannot connect to my wireless internet on my newest kernel, 2.6.22, but can on my next available one, 2.6.17......help would be greatly appreciated
[02:20] <Foxamemnon> Hello.  I'm looking for some help on setting up an encrypted disk with Ubuntu's alternate CD.  I can't use the "use whole disk" option because I need to preserve partition #1.  But I'm not sure what I should create in the empty space.
[02:20] <tanath> emma, now do this: export XAUTHORITY=/home/emma/.Xauthority
[02:20] <usr13> arfonzo:  apt-get remove gnome*
[02:20] <mohbana> but when i try to use harvard style of referencing via natbib in latex i get "I couldn't open style file natbib.bst
[02:20] <usr13> arfonzo:  apt-get remove libgnome*
[02:21] <toresn> what is the difference between 'apt-get' and 'aptitude'?
[02:21] <grezer34> ok everyone I am having issues with my proftpd server, I just installed webmin, and i everthing but the ftp seems to be working, everytime i try and start it up I get a error
[02:21] <tanath> emma, then run 'xauth' and type 'list'
[02:21] <xubinux> where can i find terminal in the file system...i neet to create a link
[02:21] <emma> ok
[02:21] <grezer34> indentlookups on line 32
[02:21] <tanath> emma, and tell me if you see something with a :0
[02:21] <grezer34> what does that mean
[02:21] <clic1> QUESTION: how to get to windows share from Linux? I am Linux newbie
[02:22] <usr13> arfonzo: apt-get remove  ubuntu-desktop  xserver-xorg* libgnome* gnome*
[02:22] <tanath> clic1, should be able to do it in nautilus
[02:22] <tanath> clic1, might need to install 'nautlius-share' i think
[02:22] <clic1> what do I type?  \\192.168.1.100\  ??
[02:22] <thechitowncubs> SuperQ: another basic LDAP question, if i assign my LDAP user a string of GIDs and my nsswitch is set up to look at files also, will it assign the groups in real time during login?
[02:22] <tanath> clic1, try browsing the network
[02:22] <emma> tanath -- i see it says about an MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE
[02:23] <AHA> Whenever i try to play a .m4p song (from my itunes library on my windows boot), i get "An error occured: This file is encrypted and cannot be played." ANy help?
[02:23] <xubinux> ubinux> where can i find terminal in the file system...i neet to create a link
[02:23] <clic1> where do I go for browsing the network
[02:23] <clic1> I can TS to the server
[02:23] <Nissan_350Z> thanks amenado and Jack for ALL of your help, you guys helped out Alot!! i think itsa going to actually run now :D
[02:23] <arfonzo> thanks usr13
[02:23] <tanath> emma, yeah. tell me if you see any line with a :0
[02:23] <clic1> and ping
[02:23] <icesword> which is the fastest browser?
[02:23] <clic1> so I know I can get to it
[02:23] <Agent_bob> usr13 much better but still leaves about 200 packages not in the server install
[02:23] <clic1> I just don't know how to open share
[02:23] <clic1> cause I am newbie
[02:23] <mneptok> AHA: m4p?
[02:23] <tanath> clic1, should be in the panel on the left, in nautilus
[02:23] <emma> Both lines have that in there.
[02:23] <tanath> emma, two?
[02:23] <usr13> Agent_bob: leaving what packages?
[02:23] <AHA> xubinux, go to Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal and left click on the terminal icon. Then click "add to desktop" and you can do what you wish with it there.
[02:24] <icesword> which is the fastest browser?
[02:24] <AHA> mneptok, yes
[02:24] <AHA> its itunes default format
[02:24] <mneptok> AHA: is that some kind of playlist?
[02:24] <tanath> icesword, elinks :P
[02:24] <emma> it might just be one long line
[02:24] <icesword> tanath, it is a text one
[02:24] <AHA> mneptok, nope. a song from itunes
[02:24] <mneptok> AHA: no, MPEG4 (.mp4) is the file default format ;)
[02:24] <tanath> icesword, you asked for a fast one :P
[02:24] <AHA> mneptok, nope
[02:24] <icesword> tanath, i don' like it
[02:24] <tanath> icesword, epiphany is pretty fast, and good, but depends on firefox
[02:24] <xubinux> AHA in xubuntu i can't do it...dx click do same as sx
[02:24] <mneptok> AHA: look again
[02:24] <arbir> when i change my theme, my window controls dont change.... any idea how i can do it
[02:24] <icesword> i see
[02:25] <b4se> Quick question....
[02:25] <icesword> haha ,ie is a fast one
[02:25] <Murrlin> I need a term for something; the screen shown with the ubuntu logo, during boot, that scrolls boot/load messages. what is that called?
[02:25] <tanath> icesword, doesn't hurt to try a bunch out and see what you like
[02:25] <b4se> Xchat, for one, how do i join multiple channels on one instance of xChat?
[02:25] <AHA> mneptok, i have looked at every song i own. They are all .m4p
[02:25]  * Pelo just reinstalled compiz , to play with cause he was bored and now he only gets a quarter screeen 
[02:25] <Murrlin> so I can look it up to see how to make the lines showing the messages, show up
[02:25] <mrtsunami> b4se, /join ?
[02:25] <Murrlin> 7.10's are blank, unlike 6.06's
[02:25] <tanath> b4se, /j #channelname
[02:26] <mneptok> AHA: oho. then those are purchased music from iTunes
[02:26] <Murrlin> the screen with the status bar below "ubuntu"
[02:26] <AHA> mneptok, even if i change the file to *.mp4, i get the same thing
[02:26] <AtomicSpark> anyone know simple gui sqlite editor?
[02:26] <mneptok> AHA: they will only ever play in iTunes.
[02:26] <jvai> mneptok - http://media-convert.com/convert/
[02:26] <b4se> tanath, but does that mean i can have multiple channels open at once?
[02:26] <mohbana> but when i try to use harvard style of referencing via natbib in latex i get "I couldn't open style file natbib.bst
[02:26] <tanath> b4se, yep. they'll be tabbed at the bottom
[02:26] <kakei> Hello, i just installed ubuntu and i installed it over windows vista, now i reboot and try to run vista but it get stuck on the loader screen
[02:26] <tanath> b4se, you see them just under where you type
[02:26] <mrtsunami> b4se, yes, you can have multiple servers and channels open at the same time
[02:26] <AHA> kakei, because you installed it _over_ vista
[02:26] <tanath> b4se, ctrl+s if you want a new server
[02:26] <emma> I'm going to reload x and see what happens.
[02:26] <kakei> AHA??
[02:27] <mneptok> AHA: .mp4 is the default MPEG4 file format. .m4p is MPEG4 with DRM.
[02:27] <AHA> you said you installed it over vista, which probably is the reason why it wont load
[02:27] <b4se> tanath, thanks so much :p
[02:27] <Agent_bob> usr13 assorted applications and libraries that simply don't depend on nor match the things you listed.    i don't happen to have a list of them on hand   but they will still be there.      i have chased that rabbit several times usr13, beleave it or not it best to strip the system to the essential packages and reinstall the ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base   that will put it back in server install state.
[02:27] <tanath> b4se, np
[02:27] <kakei> nono, not over, just other partition
[02:27] <lindzeyn> Hey, does anyone know of a good cheap wireless G card that will work w/ ubuntu right out of the box
[02:27] <mneptok> lindzeyn: form factor?
[02:27] <Foxamemnon> Are there any website or wiki pages I should look at for help setting up encrypted disks with the installer?
[02:27] <b4se> tanath, is there anyway to have totem on top when playing
[02:27] <tanath> b4se, you can have any app on top
[02:27] <b4se> tanath, kind of like WMP when you click on the 'Always on top' feature...
[02:27] <rilo> I'm trying to stop my networking service by using "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" and while it says "OK", my eth0 is still up and active. wtf is going on? how do I keep it down
[02:28] <lindzeyn> mneptok, I don't know what that means.
[02:28] <b4se> tanath, even when i click on another window?
[02:28] <AHA> kakei, try booting off of the vista disk and seeing if you can find a "repair errors" option
[02:28] <tanath> b4se, you can right click on the task bar, or the title bar, and choose always on top
[02:28] <Newbuntu2> hello all!
[02:28] <mneptok> lindzeyn: PCI? PCMCIA? Cardbus? Express56?
[02:28] <b4se> tanath, legend! thanks so much
[02:28] <tanath> lol
[02:28] <lindzeyn> USB or PCI
[02:28] <b4se> tanath, thats an awesome feature of linux
[02:28] <b4se> tanath, im loving linux, just a bit newb with it lol
[02:28] <mneptok> lindzeyn: you in the US?
[02:28] <tanath> b4se, i believe windows has that too :P
[02:28] <lindzeyn> Yes
[02:28] <kakei> AHA that will erase grub?
[02:28] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to run zoneminder with a hauppauge pvr 500 card, however, I can't figure out if I'm configuring the devices right. Can anyone help?
[02:29] <bds> rilo: sudo ifdown eth0?
[02:29] <tanath> b4se, but yeah, linux has lots of great features :P
[02:29] <AHA> kakei, no
[02:29] <arbir> anybody here has changed their theme ?
[02:29] <Pelo> arbir, most of us I expect
[02:29] <mohbana> When i try using the harvard style of referencing via natbib in latex i get "I couldn't open style file natbib.bst", please help
[02:29] <arbir> Pelo: i am having serious problems trying out a particular theme
[02:29] <thechitowncubs> SuperQ: any tips on mapping my ldap users to local groups?
[02:29] <tanath> arbir, er, i have
[02:29] <Pelo> arbir, more details, were did you get the theme from ?
[02:29] <arbir> Pelo: the window control buttons dont change
[02:29] <b4se> tanath, whats your favorite feature then (im learning here lol)
[02:30] <rilo> bds: I did sudo ifconfig eth0 down... and it didn't give me an error, but it's still busy! I need to make a change to it but I keep getting the device/resource busy error
[02:30] <arbir> Pelo: i am trying this http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/05/make-ubuntu-look-like-vista.html
[02:30] <Pelo> arbir, is this a compiz theme ?
[02:30] <tanath> b4se, uh... favourite for what? lol
[02:30] <b4se> tanath, oh soz feature lol
[02:30] <arbir> Pelo... is this a compiz theme? i have no idea
[02:30] <tanath> b4se, i really love compiz, and the negative plugin. light text on a dark background is so much easier on the eyes. great for reading
[02:30] <b4se> tanath, trying to work out all of the good features...
[02:30] <tanath> b4se, heh, you'll learn as you go. there's too much to point out at once
[02:30] <arbir> Pelo: if you will see step it three, it says "Install the Beryl and GTK theme as usual".. what does that mean ?
[02:30] <mneptok> lindzeyn: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156165
[02:30] <Pelo> arbir,  hold on
[02:31] <tanath> b4se, one cool thing that a regular person wouldn't notice is that linux automatically defrags on the fly
[02:31] <Kalamansi> hello I don't have internet..i check already my cable 100% ok (cable tester). tried to plug it in other machine I have internet. but in ubuntu desktop 7.10 none.. http://pastebin.com/m603c7cc2
[02:31] <Nissan_350Z> well anyone know how to request the Alternative CD?
[02:31] <mohbana> When i try using the harvard style of referencing via natbib in latex i get "I couldn't open style file natbib.bst", please help
[02:31] <arbir> mneptok: wishes if newegg shipped to canada as well
[02:31] <Pelo> arbir, why don'T you just get an already made one from www.gnome-look.org ?
[02:31] <arbir> Pelo: sure i can. tell me which one... there are too many ...
[02:31] <Nissan_350Z> well anyone know how to request the Alternative CD?
[02:32] <mneptok> arbir: that's why we have a PO box in Plattsburgh ;)
[02:32] <Pelo> arbir,  just do a search for vista in gtk themes
[02:32] <Pelo> arbir,  in gtk2 themes
[02:32] <arbir> Pelo: there are so many vista gtk themes and most dont work
[02:32] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: the .iso is on every mirror
[02:32] <arbir> Pelo: let me see .. if you can recommend a few that would be super
[02:32] <nomasteryoda> Nissan_350Z, find a Linux User group near you ... or a friend to download it for you...
[02:32] <lindzeyn> mneptok, so that card has an easily recognizable chipset and ubuntu will automatically load the drivers?
[02:32] <Nissan_350Z> mneptok> i have very very slow internet
[02:32] <Pelo> arbir, unpack it once,  chances are they were repacked to include instructions
[02:32] <mneptok> lindzeyn: correct
[02:33] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: ShipIt does not ship alt. CDs. use a torrent.
[02:33] <rpj8> How can I set up automounting for usb drives and/or CDs on a cli installed system?
[02:33] <nomasteryoda> Nissan_350Z, my solution always works... someone has faster connection
[02:33] <Warcaptain> is there a way to run the LAMP installation script that runs when you install ubuntu-server only on a desktop?
[02:33] <Nissan_350Z> oh, mneptok
[02:33] <arbir> Pelo: let me give it a go.. i have spent 2 days trying to figure out how to install the themes.
[02:33] <nomasteryoda> yup, torrent is good
[02:33] <Nissan_350Z> ok how do i get to torrent and what is it XD
[02:33] <jrib> !lamp > Warcaptain (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:33] <arbir> Pelo: the screenshots they give is so good and when i install it, its nothing like that.....
[02:33] <Pelo> arbir,  you just drag drop the tar.gz file on to the theme manager window
[02:33] <lindzeyn> mneptok, thanks a bunch
[02:33] <mneptok> lindzeyn: no worries
[02:34] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: what OS are you using now?
[02:34] <arbir> Pelo: let me try...
[02:34] <Nissan_350Z> Windows NT
[02:34] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone know where I can find the 0.9.55 ubuntu package?
[02:34] <jrib> fiXXXerMet: package for?
[02:34] <Nissan_350Z> this computer im using for internet is Windoes XP
[02:34] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: can you install software on it?
[02:34] <rpj8> Has anyone on here got automounting working after installing a cli system?
[02:34] <Nissan_350Z> **Windows
[02:34] <fiXXXerMet> Sorry, for wine.
[02:34] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone know where I can find the 0.9.55 wine ubuntu package?
[02:34] <rpj8> fiXXXerMet: Doesn't exist yet.
[02:34] <Warcaptain> ubotu: that does not have instructions for 7.10.. are there any differences?
[02:34] <Nissan_350Z> it doesnt have internet access the modem is messed up
[02:34] <Warcaptain> oh
[02:35] <Warcaptain> bot, cute
[02:35] <Nissan_350Z> and we only get 26.4 KBPS  for Dial-Up here
[02:35] <Nissan_350Z> :/
[02:35] <Kalamansi> hello I cannot connect to the internet... http://pastebin.com/m603c7cc2
[02:35] <Omlette> I have a minor problem: when I suspend my computer manually, it resumes fine. However, if my computer suspends automatically, it resumes, shows the desktop for about 5 seconds, then hibernates. Any thoughts?
[02:35] <Agent_bob> rpj8 don't care what you ask for, do you?    it can be done.   but you'll have to script "something" to watch hald or the devices them selves.
[02:35] <reikalusikka> You guys may be a bit biased but which is better for server use, ubuntu or debian? are there any major difference? I have no experience of debian, only heard it's "good".
[02:35] <thechitowncubs> reikalusikka: ubuntu
[02:36] <arbir> Pelo: this is what i was looking at http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aero-clone?content=57352 and it leads me no where
[02:36] <reikalusikka> ok :)
[02:36] <arbir> Pelo: what to download and what to install ?
[02:36] <rpj8> Agent_bob: First off, what? Second, what should I look up to see what ubuntu uses by default?
[02:36] <Kalamansi> reikalusikka since you are here.ubuntu is cool
[02:36] <reikalusikka> :p well I'm using it atm
[02:36] <Agent_bob> reikalusikka debian
[02:36] <Pelo> arbir, for the one you just linked to try this link for the dl  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=57352&id=1&tan=11651237
[02:36] <reikalusikka> Agent_bob: what are the benefits etc
[02:36] <rpj8> reikalusikka: The only reason people will say debian is because they have a slower release schedule
[02:36] <reikalusikka> rpj8: oh ok
[02:37] <rpj8> reikalusikka: Making their packegs "more secure"
[02:37] <rpj8> reikalusikka: Really it's all opinion. I say try both.
[02:37] <Agent_bob> rpj8 hal and the hal daemon hald
[02:37] <reikalusikka> :p
[02:37] <Kalamansi> reikalusikka: I see... I haven't triy debian
[02:37] <rpj8> Agent_bob: I saw others like dbus and udev? Are these relevant at all?
[02:37] <Kalamansi> reikalusikka: do you think same environment?
[02:37] <reikalusikka> ?
[02:37] <Kalamansi> reikalusikka: I try to install it using gui.
[02:37] <arbir> Pelo: i already got that file.. and only somethings have changed in my desktop..... the window control buttons have not changed....
[02:37] <reikalusikka> ok
[02:38] <Nissan_350Z> Windows NT is the one im installing Ubuntu on| The computer i am using is Windows XP, The internet we get is Dial-Up and we only get 26.4 KBPS
[02:38] <arbir> Pelo: also my Applications, Places and System menus have decreased in font size
[02:38] <mattholimeau> i need to add echo to my sudoers... where's that file?
[02:38] <Kalamansi> hello I cannot connect to the internet... http://pastebin.com/m603c7cc2
[02:38] <arbir> Pelo: In fact menu buttons have become small. .when i open nautilus, its all small.....
[02:38] <Agent_bob> reikalusikka stability as opposed to features.   ubuntu is "latest greatest..."   debian is "rock solid..."   if you want a desktop you might like ubuntu   if you want a server  you might prefer debian.
[02:39] <Nissan_350Z> mneptok, that was for you
[02:39] <Pelo> arbir, go back in the theme manager, click the customize button at the bottom  go in the control and also the border tab and reselect the vista-aero ones (or wathever ) from those tabs
[02:39] <Nissan_350Z> and how do i use a Torrent thingy to get the Alt. CD?
[02:39] <emma> I got my trackball working again. I think it is unrelated to the nautilus crashing.
[02:39] <Nissan_350Z> :/
[02:40] <Cosmo> Can someone help me enable thumbnails in Ubuntu 7.10?
[02:40] <Kalamansi> Agent_bob how to setup static ip in ubuntu? I have 10 static ips...
[02:40] <Cosmo> They used to work
[02:40] <Cosmo> but now they dont
[02:40] <Leechzilla> Nissan_350Z: Download a Torrent client, like deluge-torrent, or rtorrent.
[02:40] <arbir> Pelo: the window border tab does not like anyof those vista-aero items.... i have already looked into that...
[02:40] <rilo> damn, I just ran sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop ...and it appeared to deconfigure my network interfaces fine... except I'm still connected to IRC and everything else. what is the deal? :|
[02:40] <emma> I do not understand it but by changing the background color in the login window that made my xorg.conf file go back to the backup
[02:40] <Nissan_350Z> LeechZilla> what does a torrent client do?
[02:40] <Agent_bob> Kalamansi edit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:41] <zhanx> !azureus
[02:41] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[02:41] <Pelo> arbir, I'm looking , please be patient , taht aero one is crap btw
[02:41] <dogpigeoncow> hey
[02:41] <Nissan_350Z> :/
[02:41] <Nissan_350Z> !Torrent
[02:41] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[02:41] <Kalamansi> Agent_bob: I have to use 10 NICs too?
[02:41] <Nissan_350Z> ok then
[02:41] <Leechzilla> Nissan_350Z: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_%28protocol%29
[02:41] <Pelo> arbir, this one seems to work well enough but it is dark  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/VistaRevisedDark?content=32833
[02:41] <Cosmo> Can someone help me enable thumbnails in Ubuntu 7.10?
[02:41] <mattholimeau> i'm trying to get this to work: sudo "echo -e \"blah\" >> /etc/hosts"   ... but i'm getting sudo: echo -e "blah" >> /etc/hosts: command not found
[02:41] <mattholimeau>      ....   any ideas?
[02:41] <Nissan_350Z> thanks, LeechZilla :D
[02:41] <zhanx> i hate resetting up my box.. this time i going to back it up
[02:42] <dogpigeoncow> hey i have a problem downloading programs from the add/remove service. i get the error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:42] <dogpigeoncow> E: _cache->open() failed, please report."
[02:42] <arbir> Pelo: I tried with OSX Leopard first....that was a complete failure after spending 6 hrs on it.. let me try your link
[02:42] <Omlette> Cosmo: thumbnails in the file browser?
[02:42] <Cosmo> YEs
[02:42] <Pelo> arbir, I did osx in 4 min
[02:42] <Omlette> Let me see..
[02:42] <Cosmo> like if i want to be able to preview pictures witout opening them up
[02:42] <tricaric> hi! Anyone knows when the next ubuntu server LTS is going to be released?
[02:42] <bds> mattholimeau: get rid of the " before echo
[02:42] <zhanx> dogpigeoncow:  you need ti run a terminal and put that in
[02:42] <arbir> Pelo: how in 4 min ? i spent hours and nothing happened
[02:42] <dogpigeoncow> and then i get blank ">"s
[02:42] <Agent_bob> Kalamansi well i'd sujest a switch.    or if you are refering to just the host addressing.   look in /etc/host*
[02:43] <Pelo> arbir,  I have no idea why it would take you that much time
[02:43] <Omlette> Cosmo: Edit -> Preferences -> Preview tab -> thumbnails
[02:43] <Pelo> arbir, hold on i'm looking for the linkx for you
[02:43] <rilo> arg, no ideas about stopping this networking service?
[02:43] <Omlette> From the file browser's menu.
[02:43] <dogpigeoncow> it says i need superuser privelage
[02:43] <mattholimeau> bds: that doesn't work, because then it seems it's the output of sudo going to /etc/hosts... i get permission denied
[02:43] <nickrud> tricaric: april is the schedule
[02:43] <dogpigeoncow> how do i give myself superuser privelage
[02:43] <Agent_bob> Kalamansi i'm not very network savy   might better consult someone that knows more than i do, on that.
[02:43] <zhanx> dogpigeoncow: open a terminal type in sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:44] <Kalamansi> Agent_bob do you know some channels here who have lots of network savy?
[02:44] <zhanx> dogpigeoncow:  then enter your pass
[02:44] <dogpigeoncow> yes
[02:44] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: download and install uTorrent in Windows
[02:44] <dogpigeoncow> ok now wat
[02:44] <Agent_bob> Kalamansi ##linux at times is really good for network issues.
[02:44] <Nissan_350Z70> urgh
[02:44] <jimcooncat> mattholimeau: maybe: sudo `"echo -e \"blah\" >> /etc/hosts`
[02:44] <zhanx> Kalamansi: missed your question.
[02:45] <Pelo> arbir, for mac osx  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacOS-X+Aqua+Theme?content=13548
[02:45] <Nissan_350Z70> Ping me
[02:45] <dogpigeoncow> zhanx, now wat?
[02:45] <Nissan_350Z70> :/
[02:45] <zhanx> dogpigeoncow: it should finish reinstall and fixing it, then you can install what you wanted
[02:45] <Agent_bob> Kalamansi at times it better for "trash talk"
[02:45] <bds> mattholimeau: sudo -e /etc/hosts
[02:45] <bds> ?
[02:45] <nschembr> has anyone used unionfs on a root file system under ubuntu/debian
[02:45] <martin_> any recommendations for a decent autocad replacement?
[02:45] <Kalamansi> \/whois zhanx
[02:45] <arbir> Pelo: my firefox dies each time... i change theme :-(
[02:45] <tricaric> when is the next Ubuntu Server LTS going to be released?
[02:45] <Starnestommy> tricaric: I think in april
[02:46] <nickrud> martin_: ask pelo what he uses for cad
[02:46]  * Nissan_350Z70 pings Nissan_#50Z
[02:46] <Kalamansi> zhanx is that you?the one who help me in hardware?
[02:46] <phuzion> whats the syntax to zip an entire directory into one ZIP file?
[02:46] <Pelo> arbir, that can happen
[02:46] <Agent_bob> nschembr if that's a poll   then yes i have.
[02:46] <zhanx> last week?
[02:46] <dogpigeoncow> zhanx, you da man!
[02:46] <arbir> Pelo: vista revisited does not work.. for me.....it says, it installed correctly.. but nothing happened
[02:46] <Nissan_350Z70> **Nissan_350Z
[02:46] <tricaric> Starnestommy: thanks
[02:46] <mattholimeau> bds: wow, that pulled me into pine. that's neat, but not at all what i need, because i'm trying to put this into a script, not just edit my hosts file
[02:46] <Kalamansi> Agent_bob for now I don't have internet. can you please check http://pastebin.com/m603c7cc2
[02:46] <Kalamansi> zhanx http://pastebin.com/m603c7cc2
[02:46] <Nissan_350Z> there we go
[02:47] <mattholimeau> more general form of my question... anyone know how to append to my /etc/hosts in a shell script?
[02:47] <Kalamansi> zhanx I don't have internet
[02:47] <martin_> Pelo: nickrud recommended I ask you what your cad-app of choice is.
[02:47] <bds> mattholimeau: don't put the sudo in the scipt, and execute the script using sudo?
[02:47] <maddog39> hey is there anyway to boot into a cd from a floppy
[02:47] <mattholimeau> ooh... i probably just need to run by script with sudo...
[02:47] <amenado> Kalamansi-> do you take notes? we went over this a while back
[02:47] <mattholimeau> yeah, bds, thanks... i think that's what i was looking for
[02:47] <joecurlee> should i be using restricted drivers for geforce 7200 gs or the drivers from nvidia's site?
[02:47] <Agent_bob> nschembr i don't reccomend it, unless you really really need it.   it's more of a hassel than a help    you can so easily just mount additional fs on various dirs   like   /home   /var   /tmp    /usr   /boot
[02:47] <bds> mattholimeau: np :)
[02:47] <mattholimeau> but that's lame...
[02:47] <nschembr> how do you get the system to mount the root "/" ro under unionfs.
[02:48] <mattholimeau> bds: know how i force my script to sudo itself and prompt for a password?
[02:48] <arbir> Pelo: i am trying the OSx theme.. let me see if it works for me or not
[02:48] <amenado> Kalamansi-> assign an ip address to your host, either static or dhcp assigned
[02:48] <Pelo> martin_, these days I am rather fond of  progecad smart! , it's an autocad clone,  for windows but works well on wine,  progecad smart is free , but does not support 3d
[02:48] <Pelo> arbir, I'm looking for the icons for it right now
[02:48] <rpj8> Agent_bob: So I installed all the hal and dbus stuff, followed instructions off archlinux wiki, and still a no go.
[02:48] <Agent_bob> amenado i'm lagging really badly,  can you tend to Kalamansi for me please.
[02:48] <zhanx> Kalamansi:  edit it /etc/network/interfaces
[02:48] <bds> mattholimeau: if you chown/chgrp the script you will have to give a password
[02:48] <_Oz_> Good evening, Ubuntu friends!
[02:48] <amenado> martin_-> umm, blender is not good enuff?
[02:49] <martin_> Pelo: Any recommendations for 3D cad apps? Otherwise I may just dualboot so I can use my older copy of autocad.
[02:49] <bds> mattholimeau: ie chmod 755 my_script.sh
[02:49] <martin_> amenado: I have been trying to familiarize myself with blender but progress has been... slow...
[02:49] <bds> mattholimeau: sorry, that should be 744 :)
[02:49] <martin_> amenado: any recommendations on where I could look for help?
[02:49] <Pelo> martin_, dual boot, or you could also try running your windows install in vmware
[02:49] <mattholimeau> bds: yeah, that would just force me to run it with sudo though, right?
[02:50] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[02:50] <arbir> Pelo: yeah that link was not downloading the icons....
[02:50] <amenado> martin_-> they have books and tutorials, both as html, and video via wink
[02:50] <Agent_bob> nschembr you need to take care of the origenal fs mounting of / before you bind the additional fs's to it.
[02:50] <bds> isn't that what you want?
[02:50] <Tetracomm> I installed a sound card and now want to blacklist the old integrated one. Could someone help me do this?
[02:50] <mattholimeau> bds: that's great input, and i'll go with that if i need... but is there a way to easily make a script grab root priv's by itself?
[02:50] <martin_> amenado: Thanks I'll take a look.
[02:50] <amenado> martin_-> blendernation.com
[02:50] <Kalamansi> zhanx: how to edit this  /etc/network/interfaces .. im not good in scripting typos
[02:50] <nschembr> i've worked with voyage linux ro file system. I would like to try ubuntu on eee with a ro root that I can update with apt-get
[02:50] <zhanx> k
[02:51] <Pelo> martin_,  you can also try running the full non free version of progecad, it does support 3d but it cost 500$ ,  you can dl the trial version for free , it's 30 days
[02:51] <tanath> martii, first 3 sites are good: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&num=30&q=blender+%7Eguide
[02:51] <Leechzilla> What command do I use to check what filesystem is used on a device or mount point?
[02:51] <Frogzoo> Kalamansi: man interfaces
[02:51] <Kalamansi> amenado : I tried to setup a static ip. still I cannot connect.but my p2 can connect to the net
[02:51] <zhanx> Kalamansi: sudo gedit /etc/network/interface
[02:51] <Agent_bob> and Kalamansi i doubt that i could open a web page without timming out right now.   0 free bandwidth
[02:51] <zhanx> Kalamansi: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:51] <bds> mattholimeau: what is the goal?  if the script is running with root priviledegs you are giving everyone that runs that script root
[02:51] <Pelo> arbir, here are the icons http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OsX_MoD?content=54851
[02:51] <Tetracomm> Is this what I should blacklist?: snd_ac97_codec
[02:51] <mneptok> zhanx: please use gksu with GTK apps
[02:52] <zhanx> :P
[02:52] <Nissan_350Z> umm how do i install a torrent?
[02:52] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: did you install a torrent application?
[02:52] <mattholimeau> bds: well, am thinking it should still be able to be secure by prompting for a password before it grabs the privs
[02:52] <amenado> Kalamansi-> is your p2 in same subnet ? then copy the configs if possible
[02:52] <Nissan_350Z> thats what i need help with
[02:53] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, you don't install the torrents... you open them with a torrent client, like deluge
[02:53] <mattholimeau> bds: in other words, instead of ever seeing a "permission denied" i want to see a password prompt instead. and then only permission denied on an incorrect password
[02:53] <arbir> Pelo: that downlod link somehow fails
[02:53] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: http://utorrent.com
[02:53] <Nissan_350Z> ok
[02:53] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: install that
[02:53] <Nissan_350Z> ok thanks :D
[02:53] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, i'd recommend installing deluge. then you can open the torrents you find on sites in that, to download what you're looking for
[02:53] <bds> -i  The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.
[02:53] <Nissan_350Z> ok :D
[02:53] <bds> mattholimeau: that is from sudo
[02:54] <Pelo> arbir, try this one
[02:54] <Pelo> arbir, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac4Lin+Leopard+GTK+Icon+Theme?content=68413
[02:54] <amenado> Nissan_350Z-> you need to tell em you dont have ubuntu installed yet!
[02:54] <mneptok> tanath: except he's in Windows. and Deluge on Windows is not for non-devs.
[02:54] <arbir> Pelo: got it
[02:54] <Kalamansi> amenado it's a p2 windows machine actually
[02:54] <nano_> FUDGE!
[02:54] <tanath> mneptok, oh
[02:54] <mattholimeau> yeah, that's just an "su - "
[02:54] <mattholimeau> bds: that will run a script as i log in... not log in as i run a script.
[02:54] <Nissan_350Z> yeah im using it to install the text based installation of Ubuntu
[02:55] <tanath> mneptok, he's looking to download the iso?
[02:55] <mneptok> tanath: -alternate, yeah
[02:55] <amenado> Kalamansi what ip does it have? what ip you assigned to your host?
[02:55] <Leechzilla> Nissan_350Z: If you're on Windows, utorrent is the best
[02:55] <tanath> yeh
[02:55] <Nissan_350Z> im on Win XP
[02:55] <Kalamansi> amenado: 192.168.1.1 is the router
[02:55] <mattholimeau> bds: but an interesting thought nonetheless
[02:55] <Nissan_350Z> you sure Deluge isnt?
[02:55] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, go with utorrent then
[02:55] <Nissan_350Z> ok :D
[02:55] <Agent_bob> nschembr is it a private message yes.    please don't without invitation.
[02:55] <Leechzilla> Deluge is good, but never tried it on Windows
[02:55] <amenado> Kalamansi what ip does it have? what ip you assigned to your host?
[02:56] <bds> mattholimeau: I don't know what the option is, but if you the time and patience you can put some logic in your script
[02:56] <bds> mattholimeau: that prompts for a passord
[02:56] <Nissan_350Z> you guys dont know how much i appreciate this :D
[02:56] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: my PayPal address is ...
[02:57] <Nissan_350Z> huh?
[02:57] <tanath> lol
[02:57] <bds> mattholimeau: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide"
[02:57] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, he's implying he'll take donations ;p
[02:57] <Nissan_350Z> oh ok XD
[02:57]  * mneptok cringes at the bash pimping
[02:57] <eshaase> is it normal for screen to take up 10MB using the default settings?
[02:57] <nschembr> agent_bob, can I mount  the unionfs in fstab or do i need to remake the initrd.img
[02:57] <Kalamansi> amenado: umm the router is 192.168.1.1 .. pc2 is 192.168.1.3
[02:57] <capital86> hey guys I have a question about compiz fusion
[02:57] <arbir> Pelo: awesome
[02:57] <Nissan_350Z> how do i download this?
[02:57] <Nissan_350Z> uTorrent?
[02:57] <mneptok> eshaase: forget everything Windows taught you about memory management.
[02:58] <Kalamansi> amenado: pc1 ubuntu must get 192.168.1.2 but still cannot connect to the net
[02:58] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, http://www.utorrent.com/download.php
[02:58] <Nissan_350Z> im on that page
[02:58] <Nissan_350Z> Get µTorrent 1.7.7 Stable (214 kB)
[02:58] <Nissan_350Z> (See list of changes) ? Help File
[02:58] <arbir> Pelo: there are still a few issues
[02:58] <capital86> can anyone help me out with compiz fusion?
[02:58] <Pelo> arbir,  and it took less then 2 min , if you exclud the time I spent looking for the links
[02:58] <eshaase> mneptok: i meant 10MB being alot
[02:58] <Pelo> arbir,  like what ?
[02:58] <arbir> Pelo: when i move my curose over the time and date, it disappears
[02:58] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, right... 'get utorrent' is what you want to do, right? :P
[02:58] <Agent_bob> nschembr you can mount it in fstab   and that is the best way    imo
[02:58] <amenado> Kalamansi must? does it have that address assigned yet? also what is the route -n  results ?
[02:58] <Nissan_350Z> wow thats an awfully small file
[02:58] <elux> this is friggen annoying
[02:58] <Pelo> arbir, I don't think that is theme related
[02:59] <elux> i have ubuntu running over a virtualized image
[02:59] <tanath> !ask | capital86
[02:59] <ubotu> capital86: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:59] <elux> when i reboot and go into recovery .. i can type in my root password and get in just fine
[02:59] <mneptok> eshaase: forget everything Windows taught you about memory management.
[02:59] <capital86> okay
[02:59] <elux> but when im in gnome.. and i open a terminal type sudo -i
[02:59] <capital86> sorry
[02:59] <elux> the root password is always wrong
[02:59] <Creationist> !wireless
[02:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:59] <elux> what is going on here
[02:59] <Nissan_350Z> i think so, ask mneptok
[02:59] <arbir> Pelo: this theme is really super...... somehow.... can i make it look like as shown in that page?
[02:59] <Dr_willis_> elux,  sudo wants the USERS password. not the root users password
[02:59] <eshaase> mneptok: i'm not sure what you mean, i'm not really a big windows user
[02:59] <Agent_bob> nschembr there is a pretty good guide on the net,  i don't recall the address  but i think it was on http://linuxquestions.org    maybe.
[02:59] <elux> how the hell does that make sense?
[02:59] <arbir> Pelo: the tool tip.. shows beside each window in the taskbar
[02:59] <Dr_willis_> elux,  su would want the root users password
[02:59] <Pelo> arbir, what else is there on the page ? I don't have the link anymore
[02:59] <jamesrdorn> Hey guys, I am installing 7.10 from the live cd on this nforce MB. the installer fails right when it runs grub-install, running this manualy as "sudo grub-install --file-directory=/target /dev/sda gives me "grub-install: the file /target/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly" any ideas?
[02:59] <jamesrdorn> SATA
[02:59] <mneptok> eshaase: why do you think 10MB is a lot?
[03:00] <Kalamansi> amenado : here is route -n and ifconfig -a http://pastebin.com/m603c7cc2
[03:00] <amenado> elux what is virtualized image?
[03:00] <elux> why would sudo want the USERS password? how is that secure
[03:00] <tanath> elux, 'cause you are the user asking for root priveledges
[03:00] <Pelo> arbir, I don't know that part, sorry , try looking around in gconf-editor
[03:00] <mneptok> eshaase: what else is running? what state is the memory in? how much swap is used? how much free RAM do you have?
[03:00] <Shirakawasuna> distupgrades are scary, is there a simple-ish way to keep fairly recent apps in ubuntu without a distupgrade?
[03:00] <eshaase> mneptok: because 10MB is a lot =)
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> elux,  thats how sudo works.. if you dont understand why - read up on sudo
[03:00] <arbir> Pelo: thanks a ton for this..... this is really super
[03:00] <elux> well that sucks
[03:00] <Shirakawasuna> for instance, let's say I want vlc 9 when it comes out soon
[03:00] <mneptok> eshaase: no, it's not
[03:00] <tanath> elux, what privs you have are configurable by root with sudoers
[03:00] <Scunizi> capital86, sorry.. I had to eat.. did you load up what I was talking about in synaptic?
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> elux,  no it dosent.  sudo is designed to do a lot of different things.
[03:00] <Agent_bob> !sudo > elux
[03:00] <mneptok> eshaase: on a machine with 8GB of memeory and only screen running, 10MB is NOT a lot
[03:00] <amenado> Kalamansi back to step 1 for you, no ip address assigned yet to eth0
[03:00] <Shirakawasuna> will it be easy to upgrade vlc to 0.9 in the repos?
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> elux,  you could just give root and the user the same password.
[03:00] <nickrud> elux: not every user has sudo privs,
[03:00] <eshaase> mneptok: well i guess its a matter of perspective
[03:01] <Nissan_350Z> mneptok, now what do i do?
[03:01] <Nissan_350Z> its installed
[03:01] <eshaase> mneptok: i only have 256M
[03:01] <arbir> Pelo: the apple icon and the smiley are not visible
[03:01] <Cosmo> Can anyone help me enable thumbnail previews for my files in Ubuntu 7.10?
[03:01] <arbir> Pelo: are these things to be done manually ?
[03:01] <mneptok> eshaase: so let Linux manage it and stop worrying ;)
[03:01] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: install uTorrent
[03:01] <Nissan_350Z> it is :D
[03:01] <Nissan_350Z> its all installed on here now what do i do?
[03:01] <eshaase> mneptok: well i'd like to not hit the max so i'm wondering why it takes so much memory and if theres anything i can do to reduce it
[03:01] <Cosmo> Can anyone help me enable thumbnail previews for my files in Ubuntu 7.10?
[03:02] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: http://ftp.science.nus.edu.sg/linux/ubuntu-ISO/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent  <--- download that and open it with uTorrent
[03:02] <mneptok> eshaase: stop. worrying. about. it.
[03:02] <tanath> Cosmo, in nautilus (file manager), go to Edit > Prefs > Preview tab
[03:02] <Cosmo> then what?
[03:02] <mneptok> eshaase: i can't say this enough. Linux will do a better job managing your free memory than you will. stop worrying.
[03:02] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, go to ubuntu.com and download the alternate disc. that's what you're trying to do, right?
[03:03] <Nissan_350Z> ok its opening
[03:03] <Nissan_350Z> yep
[03:03] <Cosmo> @tanath: i have done all of that and set everything to always but i still dont get thumbnails just blank white files
[03:03] <Agent_bob> elux the default setup of sudo is "in my openion" less secure than a good root password,  BUT, if configured properly sudo is a very useful tool, and a box can be tightened far beyond the "normal" security levels...
[03:03] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, you should be able to choose open at the prompt
[03:03] <Pelo> arbir, not sure,  some things are part of the theme some are not , I don't think  tooltip positions are part of basic theming
[03:03] <eshaase> mneptok: well i meant in terms of settings, like maybe reducing the number of lines stored in the buffer or something
[03:03] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: that torrent download can be stopped and started as much as you need
[03:03] <Nissan_350Z> now what does this do, mneptok?
[03:03] <tanath> Cosmo, hrm, not sure. i think it did it by default for me
[03:03] <mneptok> Nissan_350Z: downloads the alternate CD image
[03:04] <arbir> Pelo:  the apple icon instead of the Human one.. is not there... and the launch panel is still on the top....
[03:04] <arbir> Pelo: do i have to manually move these around ?
[03:04] <mneptok> arbir: Apple icon = instant lawsuit
[03:04] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, you burn that as an 'image' to a CD, which you can then install from
[03:04] <Nissan_350Z> ok
[03:04] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, an image in this sense is a byte-for-byte copy
[03:04] <arbir> mneptok: instant lawsuit if USA, else.. who cares
[03:04]  * mneptok growls at a (still) broken Hardy
[03:04] <Nissan_350Z> how long will it take?
[03:04] <Nissan_350Z> do you think?
[03:04] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, burning? 5-10 mins
[03:05] <mneptok> arbir: i'll bet you'd get sued in Germany and lose
[03:05] <tanath> Nissan_350Z, your download ETA should say in utorrent
[03:05] <arbir> mneptok: how about china ? or vietname ?
[03:05] <Nissan_350Z> no, downloading
[03:05] <Cosmo> @tanath: i had it too and then i lost it
[03:05] <Nissan_350Z> its a 26.4 KBPS internet speed here
[03:05] <arbir> Pelo: can i get icon zooming like in the OSx ?
[03:05] <tanath> Cosmo, maybe wrong permissions on your thumnail cache dir?
[03:05] <Cosmo> @tanath: you can preview pictures before opening them?
[03:05] <Cosmo> @tanath
[03:05] <Pelo> arbir, you can just drag the pannel to where you want it ,  changing the icon for the menu is something you do in gconf-editor,  in  apps > gnome-panel or panel >  somewhere
[03:05] <Cosmo> @tanath:maybe
[03:05] <mneptok> arbir: most probably, yes
[03:06] <tanath> Cosmo, shows the thumbnail...
[03:06] <Agent_bob> arbir get all your warez at 127.0.0.1
[03:06] <tanath> for an icon
[03:06] <Cosmo> @tanath: yes like it is not the same thumbnail for every file correct?
[03:06] <mneptok> arbir: but seeing that you're not in China or Vietnam, it's a moot point.
[03:06] <Pelo> arbir, you do understand that yuou are not in osx right ? you're in linux,  not everyting is available , but it is not impossible that someone made a script to do that , might also be availalbe in compiz as a pluggin
[03:06] <tanath> Cosmo, well, for me it shows the image instead of that
[03:07] <Nissan_350Z> ok guys i guess i will go, its downloading, so, maybe it will work :D, thanks so so sooo much for all of your guys' help, its really appreciated
[03:07] <Cosmo> @tanath: how do i repair the permissions or what you said
[03:07] <MidnighToker> hmm, any way i can get sound juicer to rip to MP3?
[03:07] <tanath> Cosmo, one sec.. gotta find the folder
[03:07] <mneptok> MidnighToker: sudo apt-get install lame ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:07] <Agent_bob> Pelo kde has icon zooming doesn't it ?
[03:07] <Pelo> Agent_bob, I wouldn'T know
[03:08] <rilo> What would cause "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" to execute without errors, but not bring the interface down?
[03:08] <Pelo> arbir, sorry but I am off,  I have to get up in the morning , best of luck
[03:08] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:08] <arbir> Pelo: thanks a lot
[03:08] <nickrud> MidnighToker: in the sound-juicer help, under preferences (at the very end) there's some info on setting up soundjuicer to rip to mp3
[03:08] <amenado> rilo its purpose is to bring the interface down
[03:09] <MidnighToker> nickrud: ty
[03:09] <rilo> amenado: I know, but I can enter it right now, and stay connected to IRC via eth0 without getting any error message
[03:09] <Creationist> Okay, I've looked all over the Ubuntu Wiki but still can't get this stupid laptop wireless working.  iwconfig shows the proper card, but I can't get any connection
[03:09] <nickrud> MidnighToker: mneptok's suggested install will make it simpler
[03:09] <amenado> rilo as root?
[03:09] <Agent_bob> rilo rootkit   bug   warpper script   kernel bug   ???
[03:09] <mneptok> rilo: what does ifcofig say you have for interfaces
[03:10] <mneptok> *ifconfig
[03:10] <rilo> amenado: the problem is it's not bringing the interface down... I'm sudoing
[03:10] <MidnighToker> nickrud: i believe i already did that, i think i just need to set it up now.  -annoyingly the machine isn't here, and isn't connected to the internet at its home
[03:10] <rilo> mneptok: : eth0, l0, vmnet1, vmnet8
[03:10] <tanath> Cosmo, ah, did you remove gstreamer?
[03:10] <mneptok> rilo: VMWare?
[03:10] <Cosmo> i might have
[03:10] <rilo> mneptok: yea, but I'm not using it right now
[03:10] <Agent_bob> rilo oh   and    sudo error    to test that one   do    sudo echo boo     if it says boo it's not sudo
[03:10] <arbir> what is the name of the quick launch applet on the taskbar ?
[03:10] <Cosmo> @tanath: how do i reinstall it?
[03:11] <tanath> Cosmo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318459
[03:11] <nschembr> Agent_bob, It looks like I'm going to have to mount / on tmpfs and then mount each directory with the bind command to make unionfs work on the /
[03:11] <mneptok> rilo: you mean VMWare is installed on Ubuntu, but not running?
[03:11] <tanath> Cosmo, you can install/reinstall/uninstall apps with synaptic
[03:11] <amenado> rilo
[03:11] <zhanx> Creationist: you using wep or wpa?
[03:11] <mneptok> rilo: or Ubuntu is running in VMWare under another host, but not at the moment?
[03:11] <tanath> Cosmo, or with the add/remove thing
[03:11] <Cosmo> @tanath: you think thats the problem?
[03:11] <tanath> Cosmo, pretty sure you need gstreamer
[03:11] <tanath> Cosmo, so make sure you have it
[03:11] <j_humphrey> I have a weird problem with my top panel, I have a picture as the background, but when I make a new panel, or have an application on the panel, theres a pin striping on it, heres a picture: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7113/screenshotpw5.png  How can I get rid of the pinstriping?
[03:12] <amenado> rilo so when you do   sudo ifconfig eth0 down  you get an error?
[03:12] <prettyricky> Is there anyway to get Itunes in Ubuntu?
[03:12] <rilo> mneptok: I installed VMWare to work on something a number of months ago
[03:12] <Creationist> zhanx: Not sure... with Windows, it just finds the network and connects (this is my neighbors laptop/connection)
[03:12] <zhanx> prettyricky: no
[03:12] <rilo> Agent_bob: hm, it does say boo
[03:12] <prettyricky> cool thanks, what is everyone using for mp3's?
[03:12] <amenado> rilo so when you do   sudo ifconfig eth0 down  you get an error?
[03:12] <mneptok> rilo: try "sudo invoke-rc.d networking stop"
[03:12] <Creationist> zhanx: I'm thinking his network isn't secured at all (something I'll talk to him about once I get this working)
[03:13] <rilo> amenado: nope, no error. it looks fine
[03:13] <__Oz__> Creationist: yeah...  Ubuntu's two biggest weaknesses are 1) wireless driver support and 2) video codec support...  neither are the fault of linux/ubuntu but they are big weaknesses.
[03:13] <Agent_bob> rilo oh   and    sudo error    to test that one   do    sudo echo boo     if it says boo it's not sudo
[03:13] <rilo> mneptok: still here
[03:13] <zhanx> Creationist: whats it calling the interface
[03:13] <Creationist> zhanx: eth1
[03:13] <amicrawler> ah i thougt i would never say this !!!! it is good to be back home with linux
[03:13] <amenado> rilo can you then paste what you get when you do type that  sudo ifconfig eth0 down ?  youmentioned about an error, kind of confusing what you are saying
[03:14]  * Agent_bob is beginning to suspect sudo on rilo's box
[03:14] <mneptok> rilo: could be VMware modules holding the service open. *shrug*
[03:14] <prettyricky> Also can I just connect my Ipod to Ubuntu without suffering any damage?
[03:14] <__Oz__> Agent_bob: I'm with you.
[03:14] <tanath> amicrawler, lol... why's that?
[03:14] <rilo> amenado: no error is given at all, it just gives me the prompt
[03:14] <zhanx> Creationist: iwconfig give you that
[03:14] <amicrawler> mac os x suck bigtime
[03:14] <zhanx> or ifconfig
[03:14] <emma> My nautilus sporadically keeps on crashing. It seems possible that it has something to do with playing music off of my external hard drive? Not sure. Is there any way to narrow down the cause?
[03:14] <amicrawler> and so does windows
[03:14] <amenado> rilo what prompt?
[03:14] <Agent_bob> amenado he said "no error"
[03:14] <tanath> amicrawler, what's wrong with osx?
[03:15] <amicrawler> i don;t like sco
[03:15] <Creationist> zhanx: Right.  THere is "lo", "eth0" too... neither of those have wireless extentions.
[03:15] <rilo> amenado: my shell prompt
[03:15] <amicrawler> its bsd not freebsd
[03:15] <willy-br> good night, anybody can help me?
[03:15] <Shirakawasuna> sco != osx
[03:15] <j_humphrey> I have a weird problem with my top panel, I have a picture as the background, but when I make a new panel, or have an application on the panel, theres a pin striping on it, heres a picture: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7113/screenshotpw5.png  How can I get rid of the pinstriping?
[03:15] <mneptok> amicrawler: uh ...
[03:15] <mneptok> amicrawler: BSD has nothing to with SCO
[03:15] <amicrawler> mac was great back on os 9
[03:15] <tanath> amicrawler, nobody likes sco... but they're dead, lol
[03:15] <starked> list
[03:16] <mneptok> amicrawler: SCO has IP cliams on SysV, not BSD.
[03:16] <Agent_bob> rilo would you care to test sudo for us.     sudo echo boo
[03:16] <kostkon> j_humphrey, i think it's something to do with the gnome theme you use
[03:16] <tanath> amicrawler, i believe they're filing for bankruptcy, IIRC
[03:16] <rilo> Agent_bob: why wouldn't sudo be able to use echo... I did say it returned "boo"
[03:16] <zhanx> Creationist: so sudo iwconfig eth1 essid -network name- does ?
[03:16] <prettyricky> Also can I just connect my Ipod to Ubuntu without suffering any damage?
[03:16] <amicrawler> bsd   i just don;t like how os x is ran
[03:16] <EmmerP> hi
[03:16] <__Oz__> prettyricky: unknown
[03:16] <j_humphrey> kostkon, I have emerald to a custom theme, and the appearance to a custom theme as well
[03:16] <amicrawler> the termanal is broken
[03:16] <Cosmo> @tanath: i have most of the gstreamer packages installed according to synaptics
[03:17] <tanath> prettyricky, damage?
[03:17] <EmmerP> should it be possible to seek in an asf file (streamed), with vlc, totem or mplayer?
[03:17] <mneptok> amicrawler: anyhow, you should be discussing this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:17] <Creationist> zhanx: I don't know the name of his network.  Like I said, Windows just listed local networks... I can't even get that.
[03:17] <amicrawler> any rock on ubuntu
[03:17] <zhanx> ok
[03:17] <prettyricky> Yeah I dont want to connect my Ipod then lose all my data :n(\
[03:17] <tanath> Cosmo, just a nitpick, but it's synaptic, not synaptics. synaptics is an app for laptops ;)
[03:17] <__Oz__> prettyricky: I'd avoid it.
[03:17] <kostkon> j_humphrey, try changing it to a different one, the gtk theme I mean, just to see if the panel back will appear ok
[03:17] <amicrawler> were we know what are bugs are and are not afraid of them
[03:18] <__Oz__> I ain't afraid of no gho-- er, bug.
[03:18] <BIOSboiler> hi, how do i install php5? with apt-get?
[03:18] <prettyricky> Ok, ty
[03:18] <mneptok> amicrawler: please, move to #ubuntu-offtopic for such talk. (strike two)
[03:18] <__Oz__> prettyricky: yw
[03:18] <Agent_bob> rilo sorry i didn't see your first post of "it returns boo".   ok. that rules out it being sudo.   you did    ifconfig      just to see that the eth0 is still up ?
[03:18] <nschembr> Agent_bob thank you for your time
[03:18] <tanath> emma, that could be it, but i'm not sure what to do about it at the moment. you could try copying some music off it, and playing off the installed hard drive and see if it still does it
[03:18] <Creationist> prettyricky: I've been able to use all my different mp3 players without too much trouble.
[03:18] <Cosmo> @tanath: yeah i soon realized that...my touch pad is synaptics :P
[03:19] <__Oz__> Creationist: INCLUDING an ipod?
[03:19] <amicrawler> the lirc  does that work right off the bat?
[03:19] <rilo> Agent_bob: yea... I brought down the two vmware interfaces and that worked fine... eth0 still hanging on strong though
[03:19] <amicrawler> i have a mac mini running 7.10
[03:19] <emma> Tanath, yeah I think I will move the music to the internal hard drive, and disconnect the external for a while and see if it still happens.
[03:19] <Cosmo> @tanath:any other ideas?
[03:19] <Creationist> __Oz__: Well, the iPod Shuffle IS still technically an iPod ;)
[03:19] <edwin> anyone know of a good gamedev channel?
[03:19] <tanath> Cosmo, did you check out that thread?
[03:19] <emma> (the scientific method for the win)
[03:19] <J-T-W> can i pm someone 'bout runnin' ubuntu on my lap'?
[03:19] <Creationist> __Oz__: I certainly wouldn't even bother with a newer iPod
[03:19] <Agent_bob> nschembr welcome,  and sorry i'm lagging so badly right now.     i have about 7 more hours of full bandwidth usage to go.
[03:20] <tanath> emma, yeah, if it doesn't, then you've narrowed down the problem. if it does... then i guess you should come back here and find some more help
[03:20] <prettyricky> Creationist----> did you just plug and played your Ipod?
[03:20] <tanath> emma, you can also try the ubuntu forums
[03:20] <emma> Okay tanath.
[03:20] <Cosmo> @tanath: Yes
[03:20] <mneptok> prettyricky: you need to use iTunes to put the iPod into "Disk Mode"
[03:20] <prettyricky> I dont want to plug it and like I said earlier lose all my data........
[03:20] <Creationist> prettyricky: If I remember correctly, yes.  The only player I've had trouble with was my Sansa.
[03:20] <__Oz__> Creationist: now you're talking.
[03:20] <emma> I've been looking through Ubuntu Forums quite a bit I don't find anything very clearly related.
[03:20] <mneptok> prettyricky: and if it was formatted on a Mac, you'll want to reformat it
[03:20] <tanath> emma, did you try posting about your problem?
[03:21] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: Been using my ipod with ubuntu for a couple of years now, never had any corruption issues and that's been with lots of gtkpod use
[03:21] <Creationist> mneptok: Have you tried RockBox?  Not sure how it works with "disk mode" and such, but it's a new firmware for iPods... worked great on my Sansa
[03:21] <prettyricky> Oh no dont want to reformat cause then I will wipe everything
[03:21] <emma> No I haven't posted the problem.
[03:21] <mneptok> Creationist: i've used it for months on an e280.
[03:21] <BIOSboiler> hi, how do i install php5? with apt-get??
[03:21] <prettyricky> whats gtkpod? sorry newbie
[03:21] <Creationist> prettyricky: Well, before you try anything, you should ALWAYS make a backup of whatever data is on your iPod.
[03:21] <tanath> emma, well, that's what i meant. you can try that if you still have problems
[03:21] <jrib> !lamp > BIOSboiler (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:21] <tanath> if not, you might want to file a bug report
[03:21] <willy-br> tanath, we're i can find some help in ubuntu?
[03:21] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: gtkpod is an app to transfer music to an ipod
[03:21] <prettyricky> Creationist---> that is very true thank you!'
[03:22] <Creationist> mneptok: Ah.  I had the e260, I believe (4gb)
[03:22] <prettyricky> can I get that of the apt-get
[03:22] <tanath> willy-br, usually here, or on the ubuntu forums. or by filing a bug report if you have a bug
[03:22] <willy-br> tanath, i mean, live help
[03:22] <Cosmo> @tanath: if it helps, sometimes when i view pics, then the thumbnails show up
[03:22] <starked> Does anyone here have any idea how to get Anjuta working?  I can get it to compile my code, but it won't enable the "build" option
[03:22] <tanath> willy-br, well, that would generally be here
[03:22] <Creationist> zhanx: No more ideas for me, eh?
[03:22] <emma> I suppose I should try that if need be.
[03:22] <CaptainMurphy> Hey, I'm haveing a bunch trouble installing ubuntu
[03:22] <amicrawler> i have a qestion about sound card
[03:22] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: yessir
[03:22] <willy-br> tanath, you don't respond your private?
[03:22] <Creationist> willy-br: Most people here won't.
[03:23] <tanath> Cosmo, ah, yeah i think my system used to do that originally... but some time ago it started doing it automatically for all of them
[03:23] <CaptainMurphy> Which sounds kind of retarded becuase it should be easy right?
[03:23] <tanath> willy-br, you need to be registered to PM
[03:23] <zhanx> Creationist: sorry in the bathroo,m
[03:23] <elux> hey guys
[03:23] <Agent_bob> rilo check the process table to see what might be running interfearance there ?    i'm like you.  that's a new can of verms,  very interested in what is causing it...
[03:23] <prettyricky> trusatoRi----> Thanks a bunch.. so do I just sudo apt-get gtkpod?
[03:23] <Creationist> CaptainMurphy: It's easy for MOST computers... on others it's absolute hell ;)
[03:23] <elux> does anyone here run the ubuntu applicance on vmware fusion? i installed vmware tools but i cannot get my network to work.. it works just fine on windows.. ive tried everything
[03:23] <Creationist> zhanx: Well, that's not allowed :P
[03:23] <amenado> rilo try sudo ip link set eth0 down
[03:23] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: exactly
[03:23] <willy-br> creationist, its a total mess to describe my problem here and get the adequate response
[03:23] <zhanx> Creationist: by chance you got aircrack-ng installed cause you could use airodump to get the essid
[03:23] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: actually, sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[03:24] <prettyricky> oops thanks lol
[03:24] <trusatoRi> ;]
[03:24] <Creationist> zhanx: Not unless it's installed by default.... the lappy has no internet to install anything with ;)
[03:24] <cr4z3d> hmm.. i'm trying to launch a script everytime something connects via bluetooth. any one know if this is possible?
[03:24] <amicrawler> where do i black list a device ?
[03:24] <CaptainMurphy> I'm doing a dual boot ubuntu/xp. I'v already loaded xp, and I want to have ubuntu partion itself 35gigs, with a 4 gig swap and the rest of my harddrive (like 160 gigs) into fat32 so that both xp and ubuntu can get at it.
[03:24] <zhanx> Creationist: thinkabout, what is his router and the defualt essid name? linksys?
[03:25] <edwin> don't most of the jukebox programs come with ipod integration too? i know amarok, exaile and rhythmbox do
[03:25] <Cosmo> @tanath: I'm desperate please help :[
[03:25] <tanath> CaptainMurphy, you can use ntfs in linux too
[03:25] <prettyricky> will give it a try!
[03:25] <Creationist> zhanx: Well, crap... I don't know any of that.  I suppose I could just boot into Windows and take a look...
[03:25] <trusatoRi> CaptainMorgan: Sounds easy enough
[03:25] <tanath> Cosmo, desperate for thumbnail icons? doesn't seem all that important to me, lol..
[03:25] <starked> Does anyone here have any idea how to get Anjuta working?  I can get it to compile my code, but it won't enable the "build" option
[03:25] <Creationist> zhanx: I seem to remember the network being something like "SoftTouch"
[03:25] <CaptainMurphy> however every time I try to do that i get this message "the attempt to mouth at file system with type vfat in scsi1 (0,0,0), partition #6 (sda) at /share failed
[03:25] <Agent_bob> Creationist no eth card/port ?
[03:25] <zhanx> Creationist: really need the essid to connect to a wireless u know
[03:25] <tanath> Cosmo, alright, lemme check for something
[03:25] <Creationist> Agent_bob: Built-in
[03:26] <amenado> rilo that did it right?
[03:26] <CaptainMorgan> sure does trusatoRi
[03:26] <CaptainMurphy> I don't understand why it won't format the rest of my harddrive
[03:26] <sussel> i have installed ubuntu 7.10 in my notebook, but the firefox navegator have a problem, in scream make dark
[03:26] <Creationist> zhanx: Well, I can't even get a list of networks....
[03:26] <Agent_bob> Creationist crossover cable is handy
[03:26] <trusatoRi> This is during installation of Ubuntu?
[03:26] <edwin> Creationist: what kind of card do you have again?
[03:26] <tanath> Cosmo, run gconf-editor
[03:26] <zhanx> Creationist: in windows? then it might be managed by differentt software
[03:27] <amenado> Agent_bob-> that eth0 must me killed, he is not responding.
[03:27] <tanath> Cosmo, go to 'desktop > gnome > thumbnailers'
[03:27] <Creationist> edwin: He has a Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g
[03:27] <tanath> Cosmo, make sure you don't have 'disable_all' checked
[03:27] <edwin> Creationist: oh god... i'll sit this one out :-\
[03:27] <CaptainMurphy> Can anyone help me understand why ubuntu refuses to format the rest of my harddrive in fat32?
[03:27] <[chr0n0s]> how can i assign ATL+F5 to some program ?
[03:27] <Creationist> edwin: lol yeah, that's what I've read
[03:27] <Cosmo> @tanath: Where is that option?
[03:27] <Agent_bob> amenado ping him ?
[03:27] <trusatoRi> CaptainMorgan: What are you using to format?
[03:27] <islan> hello
[03:28] <IdleOne> CaptainMurphy, why fat32?
[03:28] <islan> I finally have my ubuntu machine working again!
[03:28] <tanath> Cosmo, click 'thumbnailers' on the left
[03:28] <amenado> Agent_bob-> nah..
[03:28] <CaptainMorgan> trusatoRi, please, use the correct handle :)
[03:28] <GunbladeIV> [chr0n0s], set it to your system>preferences>keyboard shortcut
[03:28] <CaptainMurphy> I'm doing a dual boot
[03:28] <tanath> Cosmo, it should show on the right
[03:28] <Creationist> IdleOne: I don't think he cares to learn how to fish ;)
[03:28] <edwin> CaptainMurphy: well, you could always try setting up your partitions manually then run the installer
[03:28] <Frijolie> hey all, anyone up for helping me install a new laser printer?
[03:28] <prettyricky> trusatoRi-----> when I plug my Ipod will it show up automatically or where do I go to use it?
[03:28] <trusatoRi> CaptainMorgan: hahaha
[03:28] <edwin> gparted i think
[03:28] <Frijolie> danbhfive: hola!
[03:28] <IdleOne> CaptainMurphy, ubuntu works great with NTFS
[03:28] <CaptainMurphy> 35 gigs is xp, 35 is ubuntu, 4 gig swap, rest fat32
[03:28] <zhanx> Creationist: your in luck https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5BAirForce_One_54g%5D
[03:28] <trusatoRi> CaptainMurphy: And what app are you using to format this with?
[03:29] <[chr0n0s]> GunbladeIV, i want open firefox with ATL+F5, and firefox is not there in that list
[03:29] <trusatoRi> CaptainMurphy: The installer?
[03:29] <purple> hi....
[03:29] <CaptainMurphy> I'm using the installed
[03:29] <edwin> IdleOne: isn't ntfs preferred over fat anyways?
[03:29] <CaptainMurphy> on the ubuntu cd
[03:29] <IdleOne> edwin, yes
[03:29] <Creationist> zhanx: Right, I saw that page too.... however, no internet connection
[03:29] <trusatoRi> He's trying to have a shared part for both xp and linux
[03:29] <islan> so I just upgraded to 7.10, and the visual effects have been such a huge improvement, I was wondering if there were more effects that I was not aware of...?
[03:29] <Agent_bob> CaptainMurphy ummm mtools installed ?
[03:29] <IdleOne> edwin, in windows it is at least
[03:29] <willy-br> anyone knows why i can't delete some files on my hard drive runnin ubuntu live cd?
[03:29] <tanath> trusatoRi, ntfs-3g
[03:29] <danbhfive> Frijolie: hi
[03:29] <zhanx> Creationist: umm grab your lan cable
[03:29] <CaptainMurphy> mtools?
[03:29] <Creationist> Hmm... I suppose I could break my connection to this system and move it there.
[03:29] <Creationist> lol
[03:29] <Creationist> zhanx: Yeah, I figured that too.
[03:29] <edwin> IdleOne: i thought that was implied, :-P obviously there are better fs's
[03:30] <BIOSboiler> i need help please, i have installed postfix, and dovecot imap server, they both work, now i am trying to get squireelmail to work has anyone ever gotten squirrelmail to work in here if so please i just have one question
[03:30] <Agent_bob> CaptainMurphy but i have one question for you.   why not let windows format it's own crap ?
[03:30] <trusatoRi> CaptainMurphy: You may want to try to partition first using something like the gparted livecd, if you wanna go the fat32 route, or you can format it ntfs and use ntfs-3g, as tanath said, or use ext3 and use the windows driver, either will get what you want done
[03:30] <edwin> whoever was asking about visual effects, you'l have to download cssb from synaptic
[03:30] <Frijolie> danbhfive: you good at getting printers installed?
[03:30] <nemik> anyone here got an ATI HD 2400 pro card working with ubuntu and compiz?
[03:30] <zhanx> Creationist: your getting paid at least a 12 pack for this right
[03:30] <trusatoRi> nemik: I have an HD 3850
[03:30] <Scunizi> edwin, ccsm
[03:30] <prettyricky> trusatoRi-----> when I plug my Ipod will it show up automatically or where do I go to use it?
[03:30] <Creationist> zhanx: Actually, this is pro-bono.
[03:30] <Cosmo> @tanath: Nope thats fine.  Another thing is like if i have a .pdf or a .txt it shows the same blank icon for both..thats why i am desperate becuase it gets confusing
[03:30] <edwin> ccsm*
[03:31] <__Oz__> nemik: Compiz really dislikes ATI cards.
[03:31] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: It should show up on the desktop
[03:31] <edwin> oh, Scunizi caught it already, thanks
[03:31] <Frijolie> danbhfive: i can't seem to get my new wireless laser printer intsalled / working properly
[03:31] <nemik> __Oz__:i know. that's why i'm asking
[03:31] <tanath> Cosmo, well you can have a column showing the file type, but i see your problem. i'm still looking
[03:31] <Creationist> zhanx: He gave me his Windows notebook to stop the porn from popping up every time he turns it on.  So I fixed that issue and installed Ubuntu on the side ;).  Can't really charge for a service he didn't ask for.
[03:31] <nemik> trusatoRi: is it working with compiz?
[03:31] <CaptainMurphy> Agent_bob, I already formated one partion in xp, I'm trying to let ubuntu do the rest of the work becuase this was recomended as the easyest way
[03:31] <BIOSboiler> i need help please, i have installed postfix, and dovecot imap server, they both work, now i am trying to get squireelmail to work has anyone ever gotten squirrelmail to work in here if so please i just have one question
[03:31] <NW2190> Hey, could anyone explain to me, or show me a website that explains, how ubuntu handles USB devices?
[03:31] <[chr0n0s]> __Oz__, with new drivers, they seem to be fine
[03:31] <zhanx> Creationist:  your evil
[03:31] <Agent_bob> Creationist dutch treet eeh...
[03:31] <Creationist> zhanx: He's one of those people that delights in shelling out subscription fees to SYmantec and such to stay "protected"
[03:31] <Acoustyk> quick question
[03:31] <trusatoRi> nemik: yessir, well enough, used envy for drivers, and that was about all the config it needed
[03:32] <rilo> sooo... that worked lol. I just kept executing "sudo ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0" over and over again until it actually went down
[03:32] <NW2190> I've been having trouble finding some devices and I think the problem is that I just don't know how USB devices are handled.
[03:32] <dsoffs> i found a wireless acesspoing named "keep out" how can i find the WEP key with aircrack?
[03:32] <edwin> symantec = satan..no thanks
[03:32] <Acoustyk> my window title bars are red and wont change when I open the appearance manager what do I do?
[03:32] <__Oz__> chr0n0s: which new drivers?
[03:32] <amenado> CaptainMorgan-> dont let it use the default "use all" partitions , try to manually pick and choose
[03:32] <Creationist> edwin: Yeah... hence the reason I removed it from his Windows install. :P
[03:32] <[chr0n0s]> Acoustyk, install emerald
[03:32] <edwin> Creationist: lmao
[03:32] <nemik> trusatoRi: cool, thanks. hopefully 2400 pro is not much different
[03:32] <CaptainMurphy> I've been doing it in the manual part
[03:33] <Creationist> edwin: Upon doing so, though, it notified me that uninstalling may cause him to lose his remaining 303 days of subscription.  What the crap kind of business is that??
[03:33] <tanath> Cosmo, check /apps/nautilus/preferences > thumbnail_limit
[03:33] <Agent_bob> Creationist i like to ask that type "protected from what?"
[03:33] <prettyricky> What if it doenst... where can I look for it?
[03:33] <tanath> Cosmo, in gconf-editor
[03:33] <zhanx> Creationist: doing your part to save the world from spam one pc at a time
[03:33] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: We can try to figure that out if it happens ;]
[03:33] <Creationist> Agent_bob: Well, protected from the porn spyware that he asked me to take care of for him, apparently ;)
[03:33] <Agent_bob> rilo nfs shares ?
[03:33] <prettyricky> Well lol it just did????
[03:34] <edwin> Creationist: thats crap, what if he just wanted to move the software to a different machine (i mean, i'm sure that loading it on dual machines is forbidden, similar to the windows liscence)?
[03:34] <rilo> Agent_bob: nope
[03:34] <trusatoRi> Is it set to be used as a disk drive using itunes in windows?
[03:34] <prettyricky> check the packages and it gtkpod was installed
[03:34] <edwin> Creationist:  +1 for open source
[03:34] <Creationist> edwin: Yeah, I was appalled to read that when uninstalling.
[03:34] <CaptainMurphy> Is it possible to go in later and format the free space on my HD after I've installed all this
[03:34] <__Oz__> I have that sort of thing, Creationist.
[03:34] <Creationist> edwin: But I hit continue anyway ;)
[03:34] <CaptainMurphy> like will it mount ...etc... even if I don't tell it a mount point right now?
[03:34] <edwin> Creationist: ha
[03:34] <Agent_bob> Creationist yes like i said -- i like to ask that type "protected from what?"    after about the third time they start to get the idea.
[03:34] <trusatoRi> CaptainMurphy: Sure, but I'd suggest the use of the gparted livecd to do whatever partitioning you want, and then select them manually in the installer
[03:35] <prettyricky> do I need to ctl-alt backspace?
[03:35] <trusatoRi> (doing the partitioning first)
[03:35] <CaptainMurphy> whats the gparted livecd
[03:35] <trusatoRi> http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[03:35] <CaptainMurphy> do I get that offline?
[03:35] <trusatoRi> Like a free partition magic
[03:35] <edwin> trusatoRi: isn't gparted on the ubuntu livecd anyways?
[03:35] <Cosmo> @tanath:It is set to 10.5 million
[03:35] <trusatoRi> prettyricky: probably not, but make sure it's set to use as a disk drive on your windows comp, in itunes
[03:35] <zozobra> how can i change the default shell for a user?
[03:35] <Creationist> Well, I figured he's the kinda guy that uses his laptop for pictures, surfing, email... the basics.  Why not try giving him a stress free OS?  Of course, this means tons of stress for me.
[03:35] <[chr0n0s]> Norton is the most spread virus, you don't need a virus to hog down your pc, norton will do it for you and will make you pay subscription fee to do it too!
[03:35] <chrisb_> i'm trying to build ubuntu, and hit a snag, does anyone have any ideas?
[03:35] <prettyricky> oh ok thanks!
[03:35] <pawan> hi
[03:35] <zozobra> i'm looking to change it to a shell that's non-existent so as to disable ssh access
[03:36] <trusatoRi> edwin: yeah, but I've had better luck for some reason with the seperate one, besides the fact it's far less bloated and quicker to boot :P
[03:36] <Agent_bob> rilo hmmm   samba ?       i'm trying to think of anything that might possably hi-jack a network interface...
[03:36] <rilo> Creationist: are you really a creationist or are you just trolling? :)
[03:36] <edwin> zozobra: system > preferences >preferred apps i believe
[03:36] <Scunizi> chrisb_, pull gently on the line with increasing pressure until it either comes loose or snaps the line.
[03:36] <Starnestommy> zozobra: sudo usermod -s /path/to/shell user
[03:36] <rilo> Agent_bob: nope! hardly anything on here
[03:36] <Creationist> rilo: Well, I'm no troll.... so I'll go with the former ;)
[03:36] <tanath> Cosmo, uh, wow
[03:36] <edwin> trusatoRi: touche
[03:36] <dsoffs> i found a wireless acesspoing named "keep out" how can i find the WEP key with aircrack?
[03:36] <dsoffs> i found a wireless acesspoing named "keep out" how can i find the WEP key with aircrack?
[03:36] <chrisb_> @Scunizi  thank you
[03:36] <dsoffs> someone help me hack!
[03:36] <BIOSboiler> i need help please, i have installed postfix, and dovecot imap server, they both work, now i am trying to get squireelmail to work has anyone ever gotten squirrelmail to work in here if so please i just have one question
[03:36] <spikemcc> is there a msn client that actually just work on linux ... all ones that i have tried don't start ...
[03:36] <dsoffs> someone help me hack!
[03:36] <chrisb_> @Scunizi  i think that'll fix everything
[03:36] <dsoffs> pelase!
[03:37] <dsoffs> i need free interne!
[03:37] <BIOSboiler> help please
[03:37] <Pici> dsoffs: This isn't that type of channel.
[03:37] <prince_jammys> lol
[03:37] <tanath> Cosmo, mine is set to 5242880
[03:37] <dsoffs> yeah it is
[03:37] <zhanx> dsoffs: go research it
[03:37] <Pici> !illegal | dsoffs
[03:37] <ubotu> dsoffs: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:37] <BIOSboiler> i need a serious linux dude to help please
[03:37] <dsoffs> it's a help channel
[03:37] <BIOSboiler> i need help please, i have installed postfix, and dovecot imap server, they both work, now i am trying to get squireelmail to work has anyone ever gotten squirrelmail to work in here if so please i just have one question
[03:37] <ogre> where can I get  ruby-gtk2 and ruby-libglade2 packages?
[03:37] <edwin> dsoffs...oh god..
[03:37] <dsoffs> MHAHAHAHAHAHHHA
[03:37] <tanath> Cosmo, try that. maybe it's too large
[03:37] <Scunizi> chrisb_, you have to be more specific in your questions..
[03:37] <chrisb_> @Scunizi  specifically, when i build the menu config  (make menuconfig) it crashes
[03:37] <dsoffs> MUAHAHAHAHHA
[03:37] <Agent_bob> rilo i'll second the band wagon, i'm no troll either.
[03:37] <Creationist> dsoffs: Go read The Complete and Utterly Inept Criminal's Guide to Stupid Fanboy Hobbies.
[03:37] <dsoffs> acutally i've hacked many WEP and WPA accesspoints.
[03:37] <Scunizi> chrisb_, are you building from source?
[03:37] <dsoffs> just wondering how you guys reply.
[03:37] <prince_jammys> like that
[03:37] <edwin> Creationist: LMFAO
[03:38] <rilo> Agent_bob: so does that mean you're really an agent? :)
[03:38] <chrisb_> @Scunizi   yes i am,  i'm building it the "Old fashion debian way"
[03:38] <tanath> dsoffs, what if someone needs 'help' doing something to your system? ;p
[03:38] <edwin> dsoffs: ganking wireless is hardly considered hacking
[03:38] <Creationist> Okay, that guy was the most pointless little nuisance I've ever seen in here... lol
[03:38] <Creationist> kids...
[03:38] <spikemcc> is there a msn client that actually just work on linux ... all ones that i have tried don't start ...
[03:38] <Agent_bob> dsoffs join the mil.  free inet.  free food.   free bullets...
[03:38] <[chr0n0s]> spikemcc, use pidgin
[03:38] <dsoffs> it's the beginning of a huge understanding.
[03:38] <Creationist> spikemcc: aMSN and Pidgin work well for me.
[03:38] <IdleOne> tanath, edwin dont feed the trolls please
[03:38] <Scunizi> chrisb_, well... you're WAY beyond my capabilities.. sorry I can't help more.
[03:38] <zhanx> Agent_bob: no we have to pay for internet
[03:38] <BIOSboiler> fuck
[03:38] <tanath> IdleOne, aw :P
[03:39] <IdleOne> !ohmy | BIOSboiler
[03:39] <prince_jammys> oh my
[03:39] <ubotu> BIOSboiler: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:39] <spikemcc> no hope for me it crash ...
[03:39] <BIOSboiler> has anyone ever installed squirrelmail?
[03:39] <edwin> IdleOne: fair enough
[03:39] <BIOSboiler> ubotu have u installed squirelmail
[03:39] <dsoffs> spikemcc, might be your router or firewall, aMSN works on everyone elses network except thru my router/firewall.
[03:39] <chrisb_> ok
[03:39] <Starnestommy> BIOSboiler: ubotu is a bot
[03:39] <Agent_bob> rilo heh.  yeah and a creationest.  which is what i was refering to.
[03:39] <ogre> where can I get  ruby-gtk2 and ruby-libglade2 packages?
[03:39] <rilo> Agent_bob: haha, oh :D
[03:39] <edwin> msn is a horrible protocol to begin with, but thats beside the point. gaim, kopete, and amsn all worked out of the box for me. what kind of problems were you having?
[03:39] <BIOSboiler> is this room just newbies?
[03:39] <IdleOne> !squirelmail
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squirelmail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <chrisb_> @Scunizi   thanks, i'll see if i can't find a developer irc chat
[03:39] <Cosmo> @tanath:still nothing.  For example my tar.gz files that are set to open with archive manager used to all be litle carton boxes, but now they are just blank white files like everything else, so i have to rely on the extension which is horrible.
[03:39] <pygmymath> BIOSboiler: nope... some of us are non newbies helping newbies :)
[03:40] <spikemcc> pidgin amsn kopete and kmess all don't work
[03:40] <NigelS> chrisb_: what are you building?
[03:40] <Scunizi> chrisb_, maybe  #ubuntu-dev.. not sure if it's correct but it's something like that.
[03:40] <tanath> Cosmo, yeah, i understand the problem. i'm just not sure if it's a configuration/preference problem, or if something is missing or what
[03:40] <jones> i run an exchange server 2007 at work. when i am at home i do not have any access at all to the exchange server. all i can use is an OWA webmail page. is there a way to use evolution to access this account?
[03:40] <edwin> spikemcc: why? i mean, running them from command line, what error do you get?
[03:40] <Creationist> spikemcc: Then I suggest you fix whatever you broke on your system....
[03:40] <Agent_bob> BIOSboiler mostly tho
[03:40] <NigelS> chrisb_: if you had an error building menuconfig most likely you don't have the ncurses dev lib
[03:40] <tanath> Cosmo, i've been looking through settings, but those haven't worked yet
[03:40] <amicrawler> hey how do i black list a device ? i don;t want it broadcasting any more
[03:41] <Pici> jones: I've only actually been able to get Evolution to access exchange via OWA, so, yes, it should work fine.
[03:41] <BIOSboiler> pygmymath---- do u know anything about squireelmail?
[03:41] <dsoffs> are there any programs that'll make my wiener bigger?
[03:41] <slop> Every time I try to cd to /cdrom, I get this message: bash: cd: /cdrom: Permission denied.  Any ideas?
[03:41] <Creationist> dsoffs: Yep -   sudo rm -rf /
[03:41] <spikemcc> seem that pidgin work but it crash a lot
[03:41] <DG19075> It's because of folks like dsoffs that I yanked my wifi card and went wired. Best thing I ever did
[03:41] <dsoffs> i was told to take a pic and use gimp to enhance, then tape on.
[03:41] <Creationist> Man, I never tell anyone to do that either...
[03:41] <Scunizi> Creationist, :)
[03:41] <Stagger> hi, my other partitions have disappeared from the desktop. While I was erasing some files from the data partition (NTFS), I got an error msg (cant show all the content in this folder), and now looks like I cant acces any folder at all
[03:41] <Creationist> Probably never should have written that.... sorry, guiys.
[03:41] <Cosmo> @tanath: I know and im so thankful for all of your help
[03:41] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: ls -l /cdrom
[03:41] <edwin> Creationist: you're my hero
[03:42] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2008-02-16 23:36 /cdrom -> media/cdrom
[03:42] <tanath> Cosmo, ok, the thumbnails aren't working for anything, so it's not gstreamer. it doesn't seem to be a preference/setting issue...
[03:42] <jones> pici: when i put in my username/password and the OWA URL it says that it is incorrect. i have even tried w/ the domain as well
[03:42] <Creationist> Pici: I do know better... hence the apology. :)
[03:42] <bullgard4> Why is dd a process in Gutsy although I did not instruct any dd command?
[03:42] <Creationist> Pici: Couldn't resist....
[03:42] <TurtleOfDoom> hmm, world readable and writable
[03:42] <mneptok> Cosmo: do you have thumbnailing turned on in gconf? what is the cache size limit?
[03:43] <Pici> jones: Hmm.. It could be the setup that I have at work, the server admins aren't exactly the best with sercurity.
[03:43] <Stagger> it!
[03:43] <edwin> Creationist: youre like the anti-chri... anti-troll
[03:43] <Stagger> !it
[03:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:43] <jones> could be. this is actually for a very large US telco
[03:43] <Creationist> edwin: Hmm... part of me wants to laugh, b ut the other part has no clue what you're talking about lol
[03:44] <ogre> where can I get  ruby-gtk2 and ruby-libglade2 packages?
[03:44] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 they are using it in a logging script   klogd i think
[03:44] <edwin> ogre: sudo apt-get install ruby-gnome2
[03:44] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: give me a minute
[03:44] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: ok
[03:44] <jones> pici: i tried find an irc chanel for evolution but all i could find was the openoffice.org and it is dead in there. do u know of another channel that maybe able to help?
[03:44] <Cosmo> @mneptok: Yea my settings are fine.
[03:44] <Creationist> Ruby is fricken awesome.... just wish I knew more than hello world :)
[03:44] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 look at what it's reading and where it's writing and you'll understand it.
[03:44] <mneptok> Cosmo: you ran gconf to check?
[03:45] <Cosmo> yes
[03:45] <Pici> jones: I beleive the Official evolution channel is on irc.gimp.org
[03:45] <edwin> Creationist: you're like the troll anti-christ. you know, leading all the trolls into false salvation in reality cursin them into eternal damnation
[03:45] <Cosmo> what settings do you want me to chekc
[03:45] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: the command works fine for me, are you typing "cd /cdrom"?
[03:45] <mneptok> Pici: irc://irc.gnome.org/evolution
[03:45] <tanath> Cosmo, do you have a .thumbnails directory?
[03:45] <edwin> <<newbie rubyist.. LOVE it
[03:45] <Cosmo> Yes
[03:45] <spikemcc> anyone got a tutorial how to remove and rebuild amsn-aa (latest) and add some skins and addons ?
[03:45] <Beryllium> hey mneptok, ltns
[03:45] <mneptok> Beryllium: heya
[03:45] <Beryllium> how's life treating you?
[03:46] <Creationist> edwin: Well, they've earned it :)
[03:46] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: yeah.  and i could access the last cd i was using just fine.  the cd i'm having problems with is actually disk 2 (as well as disk 3) of quake 4
[03:46] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: disk 1 would let me access though
[03:46] <mneptok> Beryllium: 2 months to release. you tell me. ;)
[03:46] <Mylon> Hmm...
[03:46] <Beryllium> yikes! :)
[03:46] <Mylon> Was gonna ask a question, but let me validate the disk first.
[03:46] <Creationist> edwin: That's the only "salvation" a person CAN earn, actually... but that's an #off-topic topic ;)
[03:46] <Cosmo> @tanath: Yes i do have a .thumbnails directory
[03:46] <bullgard4> Agent_bob: klogd is a process too. So klogd needs dd for functioning?
[03:46] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: try putting disk one back in and see if that works
[03:46] <tanath> Cosmo, you can try renaming it. if that works, then just delete it
[03:47] <Beryllium> mneptok: I'm not normally in here, but it turns out that one of my coworkers at my new job is a regular in here ... :)
[03:47] <tanath> Cosmo, strangely, i don't seem to have one, lol
[03:47] <mneptok> Cosmo: ls -la ~/ | grep thumbn
[03:47] <edwin> i wish the ruby channel was this active. i'd love to be a part of a project team and make something coding stuff by myself is kinda boring
[03:47] <tanath> Cosmo, er, wait, yes i do
[03:47] <tanath> lol
[03:47] <Zarathu> how can I find what the WEP key is for a wireless connection I have saved into the network manager?
[03:47] <choudesh> edwin, sometimes I wish that is WASN'T so active. ;-)
[03:47] <Zarathu> I need to retrieve it.
[03:47] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: Yup. I can still access disk 1.
[03:48] <Creationist> Hmm... okay, the network I'm connecting to in Windows is called "SpeedTouch"  How would I get Ubuntu to connect to that network?
[03:48] <edwin> choudesh: well, the troll to helpful_user ratio isn't as bad as some places i've seen (ie mint, yvd, etc)
[03:48] <Cosmo> @mneptok: drwx------  4 cosmo cosmo   4096 2008-01-23 16:20 .thumbnails
[03:48] <mneptok> Creationist: NetworkManager
[03:48] <__Oz__> edwin: yeah, we take pride in that here.
[03:48] <chrisb_> does anyone know where i could get developer help
[03:48] <chrisb_> ?
[03:48] <choudesh> edwin, the channel tries it's best. ;-)
[03:49] <tanath> Cosmo, just rename it, then close nautilus and try again
[03:49] <Mylon> Ubuntu CD is crashing on me... Even trying to do the defect check.  It says, "HP-Bios bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[03:49] <__Oz__> You talk about some off-topic sum'n sum'n, we're gonna make sure you learn not to do that again.
[03:49] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: what does typing "mount | grep cdrom" give you?
[03:49] <__Oz__> On the flip side, if you have a question, we will help you.
[03:49] <choudesh> chrisb_, developer help
[03:49] <choudesh> chrisb_, developer help?
[03:49] <mneptok> Cosmo: chmod 755 ~/.thumbnails
[03:49] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: with which disk in?
[03:49] <zhanx> Creationist: iwcofing eth1 essid SpeedTouch
[03:49] <edwin> Zarathu: assuming you own the router, why not navigate to the router through your browser and change the key.. or  reset the router assuming you don't remember it
[03:49] <Mylon> It suggests to try booting using "noapic" option, but I just picked something with the menu.
[03:49] <Creationist> mneptok: Right, but I don't know the WEP key or anything OTHER than the network name.  In Windows I don't need anything... just select the network and I'm good to go.
[03:49] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: take your pick
[03:49] <edwin> seriously fellas (ladies too) this is one of the few channels i can visit and stay for a few hours even if i'm not getting help with my own issues
[03:49] <Zarathu> edwin: because I don't own the router.  it's the key to my school.  they gave it to me once, but I bought a new laptop.
[03:50] <Creationist> zhanx: WOuldn't need a key or anythning for that?
[03:50] <choudesh> chrisb_, what do you need help with?
[03:50] <tanath> mneptok, better to rename it. could be corrupt files
[03:50] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: with disk 2 in, that command returns: /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,user=slop
[03:50] <joecurlee> hi all... any idea about Envy for nvidia driver installation ?
[03:50] <joecurlee> is this a good thing or a bad thing?
[03:50] <__Oz__> You will need that key, Zarathu.
[03:50] <choudesh> edwin, PM please.
[03:50] <tanath> mneptok, it'll recreate it
[03:50] <sipher> a
[03:50] <Creationist> joecurlee: It's probably unnecessary.  Look at the Restricted Drivers Manager.
[03:50] <Zarathu> __Oz__: Yeah, I definitely will...so how do I get it?
[03:50] <zhanx> Creationist: you said it was open no encrytion
[03:50] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: take the cd out and try the command with an empty drive
[03:50] <__Oz__> Zarathu: contact your network admin.
[03:50] <__Oz__> You said it's not your router, right?
[03:50] <bullgard4> Agent_bob: As ps axf shows, dd and klogd are independent processes.
[03:50] <__Oz__> Do you have PHYSICAL access to the router?
[03:51] <sipher> I have an nvidia gfx card...nvidia-settings claims I'm not using the restricted driver
[03:51] <Creationist> zhanx: As far as I can tell, correct... I don't have to enter any passwords.  But in Windows, it's still reported as a WPA network.
[03:51] <sipher> any ideas?
[03:51] <Zarathu> __Oz__: yes, I have physical access.  I just don't want to go through the trouble of asking them for the key again when I can just do it myself.
[03:51] <joecurlee> Creationist: I was using Restricted Drivers but it's not working right
[03:51] <Shirakawasuna> ok, I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu (I'm sure you love answering these questions), and have some questions: 1) How strictly are the packages kept at certain versions?  I was under the impression that if I get ubuntu 7.10, say, I'll be stuck with a certain version (with security patches/minor upgrades) until the next distupgrade.  I like newer packages for some apps.  2) Along these lines, how easy is it to upgrade/downgrade the
[03:51] <Shirakawasuna> kernel?  My laptop sometimes runs into issues with a new kernel version.
[03:51] <Zarathu> particularly because it takes them a day to approve the form.
[03:51] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: with empty drive, it doesn't return anything.  Just takes me back to prompt.
[03:51] <mneptok> Creationist: uh...
[03:51] <__Oz__> Zarathu: can you get into the admin page of your router?
[03:51] <sipher> I have changed driver to nvidia vs nv
[03:51] <zhanx> Creationist: you need to install more then
[03:51] <Shirakawasuna> Creationist: psst, heaven and hell are fairytales
[03:51] <xopey> need help: Java apps hang on load. If I give them enough time, it'll eventually work, but just a pain
[03:51] <Zarathu> __Oz__: if I don't have the key, no.
[03:51] <joecurlee> my desktop has top and bottom bars cut off... can't get to correct resolution or something
[03:51]  * Shirakawasuna whistles off into nowhere
[03:51] <tanath> Cosmo, you can rename it to .thumbnails-bak or something, and see if it works. if that fixes it, then you can just delete the directory and needn't worry any more
[03:51] <mneptok> Creationist: you have a WEP key, but Windows has never, ever asked for it? that's ... some interesting "security"
[03:51] <ubuntu> i have the ubuntu 7.10 live cd...can sum1 guide me step by step on wat i should do to reput grub bcuz i installed windows xp after ubuntu 7.10 (my previous install which I cant boot)
[03:51] <__Oz__> Zarathu: then you can always take a paper clip, straighten it out, and poke the "reset" button on the router, which will force it back to factory defaults
[03:51] <Creationist> !off-topic | Shirakawasuna
[03:51] <ubotu> Shirakawasuna: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:52] <zhanx> !wpa > Creationist
[03:52] <sleepster> how do I help ubuntu?
[03:52] <__Oz__> Downside is, anyone who was using it besides you will be screwed.
[03:52] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: that's what i expected, it seems to be automatically mounting it correctly, I have no idea why it doesn't work strage, I'm out of ideas sorry. Perhaps someone else can help you?
[03:52] <sleepster> I want to help ubuntu
[03:52] <Zarathu> __Oz__: that's not what I asked.  This is the router to my *school*
[03:52] <edwin> how do i register to irc server again? this thing is so ancient that it's been forever since i've used it
[03:52] <Creationist> mneptok: Not my laptop or network ;).  My neighbors... I'm fixing it up for him.
[03:52] <prince_jammys> ok, help ubuntu
[03:52] <Kalamansi> sleepster: by donating your wife to us
[03:52] <Zarathu> __Oz__: Are you trying to adjust my morality or do you genuinely not know?
[03:52] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: ok, thanks anyway :)
[03:52] <NigelS> Creationist: he's not offtopic
[03:52] <joecurlee> i have an nvidia e-geforce 7200 gs have been working to get it displaying correctly for several hours now
[03:52] <ubuntu> sleepster: tell me the commands i need to plz
[03:52] <edwin> nickserver something, right?
[03:52] <Cosmo> @mneptok: drwxr-xr-x  4 cosmo cosmo   4096 2008-01-23 16:20 .thumbnails after running chmod 755 ~/.thumbnails
[03:52] <sleepster> Kalamansi I am not married though :(
[03:52] <__Oz__> If you don't have the key, and can't log in to the router, why do you think there is any other option other than resetting the router, right?
[03:52] <ubuntu> sleepster: the commands i need to type*
[03:52] <thechitowncubs> What is the proper way to assign LDAP users to local groups?
[03:52] <choudesh> sleepster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingUbuntu
[03:52] <joecurlee> on ubuntu 7.10
[03:52] <mneptok> Cosmo: any change?
[03:52] <Kalamansi> sleepster : donate your gf to us
[03:53] <Kalamansi> edwin : you are connected to ird
[03:53] <sleepster> Kalamansi c'mon.. I am a computer dork.. I don't have a g/f either
[03:53] <sleepster> I am fat.. short
[03:53] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: packages are kept at approx the version of release bar bug fixes and security - there is an ubuntu backports repo though so that you can get packages ported into the currently running distro
[03:53] <Shirakawasuna> sleepster: document all bugs you find, check bug reports, then write your own
[03:53] <sleepster> with glasses
[03:53] <Zarathu> __Oz__: you seem to be suspicious of me possibly doing something wrong.  the laptop is mine and I already have the key, it's just encrypted.
[03:53] <Kalamansi> sleepster : hehehe.its okay
[03:53] <Zarathu> __Oz__: so how do I get it?
[03:53] <Kalamansi> sleepster : where you at?
[03:53] <mneptok> sleepster: head over to Launchpad and look around
[03:53] <__Oz__> Zarathu: I'm trying to adjust your sense of reality.  Unless you want to start trying guess a 10 or 12 digit passkey, the ONLY solution is to get the key again from your school or whomever generated it for you.
[03:53] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: just as a side note...i'm in k3b.  when i put the disk in, it pops up on the desktop...then i have to right click/mount to mount it.  is there a way to mount it some other way (e.g. in cli) that might give me access to it?
[03:53] <sleepster> Kalamansi LA
[03:53] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: even then ubuntu releases are not very far apart - ~6 months and they usually manage to get the latest gnome/ubuntu in with that
[03:53] <chrisb_> @choudesh   sorry for taking so long,  i need help building the ubuntu source
[03:53] <sleepster> Kalamansi everyone in LA is hot except me
[03:53] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: when i say k3b, i mean kde lol
[03:53] <Pici> chrisb_: What source?
[03:53] <Zarathu> __Oz__: that makes no sense at all.  if my network manager is able to get the key from the keyring, why can't I do that?
[03:53] <sleepster> Shirakawasuna okay thanks
[03:53] <Liono> if i see a technical problem. or some thing i want or i think in some way about ubuntu . where can i say it?
[03:54] <Kalamansi> sleepster : hehehe
[03:54] <edwin> go figure theres an irc help page ^o)
[03:54] <ubuntu> can sum1 tell me here cuz i cant understand im too tired for guides and i need a real working comp to edit video for a project thats due after tomorow and i have alot of work not to mention i dint eat and im starving :(
[03:54] <chrisb_> @Pici    the UBUNTU source code
[03:54] <__Oz__> Zarathu: I do not think you're doing anything wrong.  And you're probably on better ethical ground than I am, because if I were in your shoes I'd just reset the router so I could get online and claim ignorance.  You're not doing that, so you're a better person than I.
[03:54] <chrisb_> @Pici    (the kernel)
[03:54] <choudesh> chrisb_, describe what you are trying to do
[03:54] <Pici> !kernel | chrisb_ read
[03:54] <ubotu> chrisb_ read: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[03:54] <Shirakawasuna> NigelS: ok, but let's say I want a package like teewars that requires the most recent version to be playable (pretend it's in the universe repo or something).  Does that kind of thing get updated often, or do I need to find another repo like that backports thing?
[03:54] <sleepster> how difficult is it to setup my own apt repository
[03:54] <Creationist> edwin: Nothing like a man page for the manual, huh? ;)
[03:54] <Zarathu> :]
[03:54] <edwin> hey has anyone tried lostirc or loqui?
[03:54] <sleepster> like I have 6 machines all running ubuntu.. and I would like to auto update them all
[03:54] <red_one> when i start apps, their title bars are hidden behind the top panel. why is this, and how do i fix it?
[03:54] <edwin> Creationist: i fell in love with man at first sight (not to sound gay)
[03:54] <joecurlee> also: nvidia has released drivers for linux and they claim the restricted drivers need to be completely uninstalled... which I have done, but I'm unable to install the nvidia downloaded drivers because i'm told I'm missing libc header files which I swear are already installed
[03:55] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: "mount /dev/xxx /media/cdrom" should do it, you have to put in the proper value for xxx of course
[03:55] <Cosmo> @tanath: Renamed it to .thumbnails-bak and nothing happened
[03:55] <edwin> i bet the woman command gets me lost
[03:55] <sleepster> joecurlee you need to install the headers
[03:55] <Kalamansi> sleepster: got my pm?
[03:55] <__Oz__> Zarathu: describe what you mean when you say "my network manager is able to get the key from the keyring."  What does that mean, exactly?
[03:55] <Kalamansi> edwin are you gay?
[03:55] <chrisb_> @ubotu    i have, but my problem is that when i follow  those directions, it won't build the menuconfig
[03:55] <Kalamansi> any gay here?
[03:55] <danny> Hello all. Im having issues with installing Photoshop CS2 using Wine. When I click on the setup.exe I get an error that says .\AutoPlay\main.ini then I click on ok from that and I get MAIN_FILE_VERSION>click ok >PRODUCT_REGISTRY_PARENT. Any ideas?
[03:55] <joecurlee> sleepster:  i already did via synaptic
[03:55] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: I wouldn't expect major updates between releases tbh but this is the case for most distros - you can usually find debs for anything that absolutely isn't in backports
[03:55] <Liono> if i see a technical problem. or some thing i want or i think in some way about ubuntu . where can i say it?
[03:55] <choudesh> sleepster, not hard. mirror ubuntu's or your own packages? Any easy way is to create a launchpad account and use a PPA
[03:55] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: what sort of background are you from distro wise?
[03:55] <tanath> Cosmo, did you close nautilus and start it again?
[03:56] <Shirakawasuna> NigelS: running release, both gentoo and archlinux.  I'm sick of some things just not working right, like suspend/resume, hibernate, networkmanager...
[03:56] <sleepster> joecurlee you need your kernel headers too
[03:56] <Zarathu> __Oz__: that means I specifically have the key saved onto my computer.  "sudo network-admin" <--- It's saved as the location "School" and the key is saved onto the HDD, which allows it to connect to that SSID without me having to type the key in over and over again.  When I go home, I switch to the "Home" location.
[03:56] <bruenig> http://i28.tinypic.com/f374f8.png
[03:56] <__Oz__> ahhh
[03:56] <bruenig> woops wrong channel
[03:56] <danny> Can anyone help me?
[03:56]  * Liono thinks if i see a technical problem. or some thing i want or i think in some way about ubuntu . where can i say it?
[03:56] <danc3> Liono: right here
[03:56] <devilsrogue> Hey guys
[03:56] <Flannel> Liono: launchpad.net
[03:57] <Cosmo> @tanath: start nautilus again?
[03:57] <danc3> danny: how do we know, if you don't ask your question?
[03:57] <Zarathu> __Oz__: just a miscommunication? :]
[03:57] <__Oz__> I don't think that's designed to ever show the unencrytped key.
[03:57] <danny> Im having issues with installing Photoshop CS2 using Wine. When I click on the setup.exe I get an error that says .\AutoPlay\main.ini then I click on ok from that and I get MAIN_FILE_VERSION>click ok >PRODUCT_REGISTRY_PARENT. Any ideas?
[03:57] <tanath> Cosmo, close it and reopen it
[03:57] <Zarathu> __Oz__: gah, dammit.
[03:57] <Ububegin> when i do this in ubuntu ...update-alternatives --config java ... the options are '*' and '+' .. .it states there '*' means default but what does '+' mean
[03:57] <joecurlee> so via synaptic just noticed that libc-dev is not installed... attmepted to install and was given an error "could not find linux-libc-dev_2.6.22-14.51_amd64.deb 404 not found"
[03:57] <__Oz__> A slight miscommunication, yes, but the situation remains unchanged.  You must request a copy of the unencrypted key again.
[03:57] <danc3> danny: yeah.  Run it in windoze.
[03:57] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: yeah, ubuntu doesn't run at the level of bleeding edge that gentoo tends to operate at but what is released tends to work together - obviously they can't overcome hw problems with recalcitrant hw manu (i.e. nvidia problems with suspend/resume)
[03:57] <Cosmo> @tanath: Ok i closed and reopened nautilus now what?
[03:57] <Pici> sleepster: apt-cacher sounds like what you want, see: http://www.nick-andrew.net/projects/apt-cacher/
[03:57] <tanath> Cosmo, might need to log out and back in, 'cause it draws the desktop too..
[03:57] <joecurlee> sleepster: what are kernel headers called in synaptic?
[03:57] <danny> Anyone think they can help with my issue?
[03:57] <tanath> Cosmo, i take it that didn't work? lol
[03:58] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: weird...when i do that, it just hangs, and never goes back to prompt
[03:58] <danc3> danny: I just did
[03:58] <__Oz__> Zarathu: are you expecting them to give you a hard time when you call and ask for the key?
[03:58] <danny> danc3: no you  didnt
[03:58] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: tbh, debian sid always used to be as cutting edge as it was safe to be, gentoo tended to push it to the point where sw just wasn't ready
[03:58] <Shirakawasuna> NigelS: I have all-intel hardware, so I'm thinking it'll probably work a bit better in ubuntu/kubuntu
[03:58] <slop> TurtleOfDoom: i can't even ctrl-c out of it
[03:58] <Cosmo> @tanath: well the thumbnails that i did have for pictures that were opened are gone
[03:58] <Zarathu> __Oz__: I was just kidding.  There is no form.  I cracked the wireless key by tapping into one of my teacher's laptops, and I really don't feel like going through the hassle again. :]
[03:59] <Ububegin> when i do this in ubuntu ...**update-alternatives --config java** ... the options are '*' and '+' .. .it states there '*' means default but what does '+' mean
[03:59] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: yeah - you can check the online hw db to see if there are any reported issues
[03:59] <Liono> danc3 Flannel not to ubuntu.com ? who made it
[03:59] <Shirakawasuna> NigelS: perhaps I'll try debian first and see if those issues I have are resolved, as testing is rolling release, eh?
[03:59] <tanath> Cosmo, yeah, as expected. hold on
[03:59] <danc3> danny: yes, I did.  If you want to run Windoze software, then run Windoze.  Ubuntu is Linux.  Make up your mind which you want to run.
[03:59] <alberto> hey guys i have a problem with 'q' DVD-AUTHOR... when i get a project to burn on a DVD i gives me back an error message saying: /tmp/execute.sh: line 3: mkisofs: command not found
[03:59] <alberto> /tmp/execute.sh: line 3: dvdrecord: command not found... somebody is familiar with this app so it could help me? thanks
[03:59] <__Oz__> zarathu: Ahhhh...  now you're starting to warm the cockles of my heart.
[03:59] <danc3> Liono: huh?
[03:59] <Creationist> Well, zhanx, mneptok, edwin... thanks for the help.  I'm off to bed.... everyone have a great night/day.
[03:59] <Zarathu> :]
[03:59] <danny> Hello all. Im having issues with installing Photoshop CS2 using Wine. When I click on the setup.exe I get an error that says .\AutoPlay\main.ini then I click on ok from that and I get MAIN_FILE_VERSION>click ok >PRODUCT_REGISTRY_PARENT. Any ideas?
[03:59] <NigelS> Shirakawasuna: I would try ubuntu personally - I've used debian for years but ubuntu is better for the desktop
[03:59] <seamus7> Hi ... I have a dialup modem ... I use one command to activate it ... how can I make this happen automatically upon startup?? Here's the command "sudo martian_modem --country=us
[03:59] <__Oz__> Well, your mistake was storing it in encrypted fashion.
[03:59] <danc3> danny: yes, I did.  If you want to run Windoze software, then run Windoze.  Ubuntu is Linux.  Make up your mind which you want to run.
[03:59] <Shirakawasuna> NigelS: ok, thanks! :D
[03:59] <TurtleOfDoom> slop: wierd, try it with the disc1 that works, but I'd say the problem is linux doesn't want to mount that cdrom, wierd
[04:00] <Liono> danc3 Flannel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=699029
[04:00] <Shirakawasuna> danny: no idea, I would find a guide
[04:00] <__Oz__> You do realize that if you could withdraw the key, unencrypted, it'd be unsecure, right?  Sort of a catch-22.  So that's why you can't retrieve it unencrypted.  You should have written it down on a scrap of paper or emailed it to yourself or something.
[04:00] <Shirakawasuna> danny: there's bound to be photoshop install guides for ubuntu all over the place
[04:00] <sleepster> has anyone used any other window's manager besides gnome and KDE.. and are there any really nice stable, sexy ones
[04:00] <NigelS> danc3: wine is a legitimate compatibility layer, there's no need to discourage people from using it
[04:00] <sleepster> available
[04:00] <tumbleweed__> sleepster : openbox or xfce
[04:01] <Pici> danny: Join #winehq for specific application help under Wine.
[04:01] <danny> Shirakawasuna: I was following a guide when I got the error
[04:01] <NigelS> danny: have you checked the winehq guide?
[04:01] <__Oz__> However, I highly respect the fashion in which you felched the key, Zarathu.
[04:01] <sleepster> tumbleweed__ are they pretty stable?
[04:01] <tumbleweed__> yes
[04:01] <EnvoyRising> much better. all registered
[04:01] <TurtleOfDoom> sleepster: try xfce, nice stable and sexy are really matters of opinion
[04:01] <Shirakawasuna> danny: hmm.  I *always* use the command line when using wine, you may want to try it as wlel
[04:01] <danny> Thank you for ur help
[04:02] <Zarathu> __Oz__: thanks :]
[04:02] <Zarathu> I think I might just have to do it again :<
[04:02] <danny> Shirakawasuna: What command?
[04:02] <TurtleOfDoom> sleepster: there is a whole ubuntu distribution built around xfce
[04:02] <Zarathu> either that or use aircrack :/
[04:02] <Ububegin> danny: here U go ... http://luiscosio.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps .. enjoyz
[04:02] <bruenig> TurtleOfDoom: but it's poor really
[04:02] <bruenig> TurtleOfDoom: if you want a serious xfce distro, zenwalk is the way to go
[04:02] <TurtleOfDoom> bruenig: I wouldn't know, I used it for all of 30 min
[04:02] <Ububegin> when i do this in ubuntu ...**update-alternatives --config java** ... the options are '*' and '+' .. .it states there '*' means default but what does '+' mean
[04:03] <danny> Ububegin: Thanks. That's the exact guide I was following that told me to right click the .exe
[04:03] <tanath> Cosmo, google is being surprisingly unhelpful with this
[04:03]  * TurtleOfDoom does have any silly x servers on his ubuntu install
[04:03]  * TurtleOfDoom meant to say "does not"
[04:03] <__Oz__> Zarathu: next time, write it down!
[04:03] <danc3> danny: then use one of the 4,556, 791 other guides out there
[04:03] <NigelS> danny: yeah, I would agree - I never trust wine to work with the gui as it may swallow erros - use the CLI i.e. wine ./setup.exe
[04:03] <sleepster> TurtleOfDoom thanks.. do you know if xfce works with compiz
[04:03] <__Oz__> I have all kinds of hacked info I store by emailing it to myself in gmail or using gmail docs
[04:03] <__Oz__> Linux/Ubuntu is all about the spirit of hacking at the end of the day
[04:04] <TurtleOfDoom> sleepster: no idea, perhaps someone else here does
[04:04] <danny> NigelS: Thank you
[04:04] <Zarathu> __Oz__: haha, well, I don't think it should be very difficult to guess, because I remember it was something like 1234567890ABCDEF
[04:04] <lynxx> whats the help channel?
[04:04] <Pici> Ububegin: I beleive + is the original one.
[04:04] <TurtleOfDoom> lynxx: for what?
[04:04] <EnvoyRising> irc recommendations? xchat just seems clunky
[04:04] <ubuntu> can sum1 plz help me use ubuntu 7.10 live cd to reput grub so that i can access my old ubuntu 7.10 installation so i can get my files as well as do my project for skool??
[04:04] <Zarathu> __Oz__: yep, unless we're trying to get into OpenBSD ;]
[04:04] <__Oz__> zarathu: heheheheheheh
[04:04] <Pici> lynxx: Ubuntu help or irc help?
[04:04] <danc3> EnvoyRising: xchat
[04:04] <NigelS> EnvoyRising: I use irssi but its console based
[04:04] <Scunizi> EnvoyRising, irssi with screen?
[04:05] <TurtleOfDoom> EnvoyRising: you want a graphical one or a command line one?
[04:05] <Ububegin> Pici: hmm, yeah. makes sense... Tks,mate
[04:05]  * TurtleOfDoom also uses irssi with screen
[04:05] <NigelS> ubuntu: what has overwritten grub on the mbr? windows?
[04:05] <lynxx> ubuntu help pici, running fluxbuntu and have some questions
[04:05] <EnvoyRising> command line is sexy, but i think i wanna start with graphical for now. on xchat already, but a little overwhelmed
[04:05] <Cosmo> @tanath: I know been there done that
[04:05] <danbhfive> !fixgrub | ubuntu have you seen this?
[04:05] <EnvoyRising> i'd like something kiss like
[04:05] <ubotu> ubuntu have you seen this?: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:05] <TurtleOfDoom> lynxx: this is the channel, ask away
[04:06] <seamus7> Any Linux Geniuses can tell me how to make a script out of "sudo martian_modem --country=us" ... it's to activate a dialup modem
[04:06] <EnvoyRising> #! /usr/bin/bash
[04:06] <EnvoyRising> then save with .sh extension.. correct me if i'm wrong
[04:06] <TurtleOfDoom> seamus7: while I don't fit the category, perhaps you could elaborate on why you want a script for that
[04:09] <EnvoyRising> wtf? like 100 people just disconnected
[04:09] <EnvoyRising> did i miss something?
[04:09] <seamus7> The above is a question.
[04:09] <Beryllium> EnvoyRising: netsplit
[04:09] <bruenig_> this sucks
[04:10] <EnvoyRising> Beryllium: oh ok
[04:10] <bruenig_> I can't identify because nickserv is on the other side
[04:10] <magick> I'm having trouble booting. Specifically, it takes 10 minutes to boot. I tried bootchart, but its before bootcharg loads as bootchart shows only 23s or so. "Starting up..." appears for 10 minutes before it actually boots. If I disable ACPI, it boots up quickly.
[04:10] <__Oz__> NETSPLIT! AAIIIIIEEEEE!
[04:10] <danc3> ubuntu: figure it out, and get it done
[04:10] <nickrud> a bot calling a bot, loverly
[04:10] <NigelS> ubuntu: that page tells you how to restore grub; alternatively you could in windows install the ext3 driver and copy work accross that way
[04:10] <chrisb_> @NigelS  when i run   Make menuconfig # i get a bunch of errors around a missing library  (sys/types.h)
[04:10]  * __Oz__ screams incomprehensible words.
[04:10] <Cosmo> @tanath: I'm greek so we say do you have family around here..no article "a" lol
[04:10] <joecurlee> wtf just happened?
[04:10] <ubuntu> __Oz__: step by step which commands do i put in order to get my grub back using the 7.10 live cd
[04:10] <prince_jammys> ha
[04:10] <NigelS> danc3: this is a support channel - if you don't want to help him fine but please don't keep implying that he should go away
[04:10] <nickrud> danc3: ease up
[04:10] <__Oz__> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIEEEE!!
[04:10] <bruenig_> I assume the non underscored bruenig is too
[04:10] <DangerousDave> yeeeehhhaaaa
[04:10] <lgc> I need the advice of someone familiar with qtparted.
[04:10] <__Oz__> Jeez.
[04:10] <elux> how can i add another mirror to the package manager? im trying to do an update and 23 packages are failing to download
[04:10] <tanath> Cosmo, ah
[04:10] <tanath> try this
[04:10] <__Oz__> That was one hell of a roller coaster ride.
[04:10] <__Oz__> That scroll was...  craaa-zay!
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> __Oz__: .. Behave.. :)
[04:10] <NigelS> chrisb_: paste the full error please on the pastebin
[04:10] <choudesh> channels been idle for a few...
[04:10] <Cosmo> @tanath: Any more ideas?
[04:11]  * __Oz__ 's pulse is up, his breathing is rapid and his eyes are wide. He feels... ALIVE!
[04:11] <tanath> Cosmo, go to your ~/.thumbnails directory and delete them all. Then go to Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor > desktop > gnome > thumbnailers, and enable them all
[04:11] <EnvoyRising> Cosmo: ideas for what
[04:11] <chrisb_> @NigelS  ok, one moment
[04:11] <__Oz__> Jack_Sparrow: heheheh.  Always. :)
[04:11] <magick> I'm having trouble booting. Specifically, it takes 10 minutes to boot. I tried bootchart, but its before bootcharg loads as bootchart shows only 23s or so. "Starting up..." appears for 10 minutes before it actually boots. If I disable ACPI, it boots up quickly.
[04:11] <EnvoyRising> kinda lost conversation in all this mess
[04:11] <ubuntu> find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:11] <Kalamansi>  magick reformat it and reinstall
[04:11] <ubuntu> oops
[04:11] <tanath> Cosmo, rename it back if it's wasn't recreated, or you want your old one back
[04:11] <__Oz__> ubuntu: can you find menu.lst?
[04:11] <Ttech> netsplit
[04:11] <magick> Kalamansi, the livecd does this as well.
[04:11] <zozobra> how is it that i can access a directory through ftps but not when logged on locally at the system?
[04:11] <TurtleOfDoom> seamus7: make this the first line of the file "#!/bin/sh" put your line as the second one and save it with a name, then run chmod +x "nameofscript"
[04:11] <nickrud> !training | EnvoyRising (this book will get you going pretty quickly)
[04:11] <ubotu> EnvoyRising (this book will get you going pretty quickly): A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[04:11] <Kalamansi> I see...
[04:12] <Kalamansi>  magick problem with the player I guess
[04:12] <ubuntu> __Oz__: wats menu.lst?
[04:12] <lgc> nickrud, hi.
[04:12] <seamus7> TurtleOfDoom: then I can just double click it to run it?
[04:12] <magick> Kalamansi, player?
[04:12] <chrisb_> @NigelS  scripts/basic/fixdep.c:107:23:error  sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[04:12] <__Oz__> ubuntu: it's where you edit your grub menu choices.
[04:12] <nickrud> lgc: you're back, oh my :)
[04:12] <Kalamansi>  magick dvd player
[04:12] <TurtleOfDoom> seamus7:yes
[04:12] <NigelS> chrisb_: use the pastebin please there are more lines than that I would think
[04:12] <chrisb_> @NigelS  it does that with all the libraries, even common ones like stdio
[04:12] <lgc> nickrud, I bet you missed me....:):
[04:12] <magick> Kalamansi, a dvd player? what?!
[04:12] <Cosmo> @tanath: Frankly, I don't care.
[04:12] <ubuntu> __Oz__: how do i find that?
[04:12] <chrisb_> @NigelS  pastebin?
[04:12] <NigelS> chrisb_: do you have libc6-dev?
[04:12] <EnvoyRising> nickrud: wait.. this looks more like a 7.10 newbie guide... not so interested
[04:12] <chrisb_> @NigelS  i don't think so
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ... /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:13] <sleepster> how difficult is it to build ubuntu from source?
[04:13] <seamus7> TurtleOfDoom:how would I quit my modem .. normally I just close the Terminal window that command is running in ??
[04:13] <epssy> you don't
[04:13] <nickrud> EnvoyRising: works thru some good stuff later on. What in particular are you looking to learn?
[04:13] <tanath> Cosmo, i assume you mean about the old icons. in which case you can delete the old one
[04:13] <Cosmo> @tanath: should i delete it then just make another folder with the name".thumbnails"?
[04:13] <EnvoyRising> just my irc stuff
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sleepster: No harder that building any distro from scratch
[04:13] <nickrud> sleepster: why do that?
[04:13] <NigelS> sleepster: there's really no need to - but it isn't very hard to build apps if you really wanted to - theyr'e provided int he source repo and come with software to do it all for you
[04:13] <tanath> Cosmo, it didn't recreated it?
[04:13] <Cosmo> nope
[04:13] <TurtleOfDoom> seamus7: the script should open a window the exact same way
[04:13] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:13] <ubuntu> bash: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[04:13] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[04:13] <tanath> Cosmo, if not, then yeah
[04:13] <EnvoyRising> nickrud: used to be a mirc junkie, but now i can't remember anything. like how to disable certain server messages, etc
[04:14] <__Oz__> ubuntu: locate menu.lst
[04:14] <nickrud> EnvoyRising: ah. Well, I just typed for years, let xchat do the work for me.
[04:14] <TurtleOfDoom> seamus7: nm, scratch that
[04:14] <prince_jammys> ubuntu it's a file, not a command
[04:14] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:14] <ubuntu> bash: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[04:14] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ locate menu.lst
[04:14] <ubuntu> /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst
[04:14] <ubuntu> /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/grub-menu.lst
[04:14] <EnvoyRising> nickrud: lazy :-\ (kidding)
[04:14] <lgc> nickrud, do you happen to know if I risk the integrity of my system if I format the free space beyond my ext3 and swap partitions from within the mounted system?
[04:14] <tanath> Cosmo, click on the application@pdf one, and tell me if you have the command entry, and the enable entry
[04:14] <prince_jammys> oh boy
[04:14] <ubuntu> /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/menu.lst_addwindowsentrygrubmenu
[04:14] <ubuntu> /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/menu.lst_changegrubpasswordforgotten
[04:14] <ubuntu> /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/menu.lst_displaysplashimagegrub
[04:14] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[04:14] <prince_jammys> STIO
[04:14] <elux> guys
[04:14] <prince_jammys> STOP
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: Please use the pastebin instead of pasting into the channel
[04:14] <__Oz__> ubuntu: it should be in /bott/grub
[04:14] <__Oz__> er
[04:15] <__Oz__> ubuntu: it should be in /boot/grub
[04:15] <elux> are there mirrors the third party software apts?
[04:15] <TurtleOfDoom> seamus7: maybe you'd be better off setting up an alias so that when you type "inet" in a terminal for example, it expands it to the command you want
[04:15] <Cosmo> @ tanath: Ok i just deleted the .thumbnail-bak...now i dont have any .thumbnail folder
[04:15] <nickrud> lgc: never format a mounted partition; if it's not mounted you can change partition size, format, etc no problem
[04:15] <Cusoon959> Can anyone help with this?
[04:15] <Cusoon959> http://pastebin.com/m73e18b40
[04:15] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /boot/grub
[04:15] <ubuntu> bash: /boot/grub: No such file or directory
[04:15] <Cusoon959> Trying to compile something with gcc...
[04:15] <nickrud> EnvoyRising: you're not far off the mark :)
[04:15] <lgc> nickrud, no, it's not formatted. It's just free space now.
[04:15] <alberto> /tmp/execute.sh: line 3: dvdrecord: command not found... somebody is familiar with this app so it could help me? thanks
[04:15] <tanath> Cosmo, ok, make one, then make sure thumbnails are enabled in the configuration editor
[04:15] <__Oz__> ubuntu: are you using 7.10 ubuntu?
[04:16] <nickrud> lgc: sure, do anything you like to it.
[04:16] <ubuntu> __Oz__: ya but live cd
[04:16] <NigelS> Cusoon959: yes, pass -lm to include the  math library
[04:16] <__Oz__> oh, you're on the CD?
[04:16] <seamus7> TurtleOfDoom: basically I just enter the command I mentioned then "sudo wvdial" and voila I'm connected to the net (by the way I have broadband but I'm setting up a friends's clunker who only has dialup)
[04:16] <Cusoon959> thanks NigelS
[04:16] <ubuntu> __Oz__: ya
[04:16] <__Oz__> ubuntu: so what is your problem again?
[04:16] <NigelS> Cusoon959: you need to fix those warnings too but only you can see that :)
[04:16] <nickrud> lgc: personaly I prefer cfdisk for partitioning, and then mkfs.* for formatting. I don't care for gparted myself
[04:16] <ubuntu> __Oz__: i had it on the hd then i installed windows on another partition so i lost the grub now i want to get it bak using this live cd
[04:16] <queuetue> Does Ubuntu have a built-in mechanism for rebuilding a kernel module with different options?  (I need to enable USB verbose debugging.)
[04:16] <__Oz__> Yeah, gparted is pretty messed up.
[04:17] <alberto> Hey guys i'm having some problems with 'q' DVD-Author, when i get it to burn a DVD Project it gives me back this error message: /tmp/execute.sh: line 3: dvdrecord: command not found... somebody is familiar with this app so it could help me? thanks
[04:17] <Cusoon959> NigelS: I get http://pastebin.com/m619d593a now... is that what you mean?
[04:17] <EnvoyRising> __Oz__:  ubuntu needs to reinstall grub. mbr overwrote it after windows install me thinks
[04:17] <lgc> nickrud, it's just that the QTparted message 'make sure you unmount all partitions before making any changes' intimidates me.
[04:17] <__Oz__> ubuntu: okay, I want you to read a tutorial at this URL:
[04:17] <Cusoon959> NigelS: Oh but it compiled :P
[04:17] <ubuntu> __Oz__: exactly wat EnvoyRising said
[04:17] <TurtleOfDoom> seamus7: if you want the shell script idea, then yes, put "#!/bin/sh" as the first line and your two lines in it
[04:17] <NigelS> Cusoon959: yes, they were there before. You're passing arguments with the wrong type
[04:17] <__Oz__> envoyrising: yes, I understand
[04:17] <chrisb_> @NigelS   i posted all error messages into the PasteBin
[04:17] <NigelS> Cusoon959: yes, it's a warning not an error - but your program may now crash :)
[04:17] <Scunizi> ubuntu, for restoring grub see http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm  It's always worked great for me.
[04:18] <NigelS> chrisb_: you need to give me the link :P
[04:18] <chrisb_> @NigelS   ok, one moment
[04:18] <__Oz__> here's the url, ubuntu
[04:18] <__Oz__> http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp
[04:18] <__Oz__> for the record, it's much easier to install XP FIRST and then Ubuntu SECOND
[04:18] <EnvoyRising> ubuntu i could have sworn that reinstalling grub was only two lines of code.. that involved getting into the grub command line
[04:18] <nickrud> hermanzone is very nice stuff
[04:18] <ubuntu> __Oz__: i no but its for other reasons
[04:18] <__Oz__> this is because grub will find and 'respect' the windows install while the windows boot manager will trample all over your ubuntu settings
[04:18] <lgc> nickrud, I thought that flannel was the only one around stuck in barebones Ubuntu.
[04:18] <Scunizi> EnvoyRising, pretty much.. check out my link above for grub
[04:19] <__Oz__> ubuntu: that's okay, you can get both working with ubuntu installed first
[04:19] <ubuntu> __Oz__: ya i no all these things
[04:19] <chrisb_> @NigelS   paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56579
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> __Oz__: Add to that .. once you have dual boot setup, make a copy of the mbr using the dd command
[04:19] <__Oz__> just follow the instructions at http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp
[04:19] <Erebu1> Hey guys, I know i'm not an IRC regular, but I was wondering if you could give me a hand. I'm having issues detecting my scanner. It's a lexmark X1185 Scanner/Printer combo. Printer works in CUPS for the most part. Scanner worked like shit under the Synaptic database Sane (1.0.14). So, (skipping the long details for just a sec) the current stand is that every trace of any older SANE has been expunged, the newest sane source compiled and i
[04:19] <__Oz__> Aye! Do as the captain suggest, ubuntu.
[04:19] <Cosmo> @tanath: How do i make sure...as in where do i check?
[04:19] <ubuntu> __Oz__: itll be done off of this live cd tho, right? i have dial-up so i cant burn other things...
[04:19] <nickrud> lgc: bare bones? I prefer non gui tools for system stuff. Reminds me that I've got to be cautious and correct
[04:19] <__Oz__> no, ubuntu
[04:19] <__Oz__> you won't need to use the livecd
[04:19] <tanath> Cosmo, go to Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor > desktop > gnome > thumbnailers, and enable them all
[04:20] <__Oz__> again, just follow the instructions at http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp
[04:20] <__Oz__> it will tell you exactly how to get grub back
[04:20] <ubuntu> __Oz__: i have no floppies, etc
[04:20] <__Oz__> and you can then boot into ubuntu, etc.
[04:20] <tritium> !enter | __Oz__
[04:20] <__Oz__> Ye shan't need floppies et. al., ubuntu.  (People still use those things?)
[04:20] <ubotu> __Oz__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:20] <__Oz__> ubuntu: did you get all that?
[04:21] <tanath> Cosmo, also, in System > Prefs > File Management > Preview tab, double check your settings
[04:21] <Cosmo> @tanath: All of them were already enabled
[04:21] <ubuntu> __Oz__: ya im reading....my eyes r burning :(
[04:21] <tanath> Cosmo, only for files smaller than 5Mb, or something reasonable?
[04:21] <__Oz__> ubuntu: it's not that hard, man
[04:21] <NigelS> chrisb_: do you have build-essential?
[04:21] <__Oz__> but as you can see, it's much easier to do the windows xp first, ubuntu second install
[04:21] <tanath> Cosmo, and set it to local files only
[04:21] <lgc> nickrud, well yes, and work at least twice as much. I migrated to a bigger disk that way, instead of using GUIs. But I must've done something wrong, since my disk makes funny noises all the time ('end of device' or some cr*p -come and get me, censors!- like that).
[04:21] <EnvoyRising> xchat is killing me :@ looking up irsii as we speak
[04:21] <norty>  I have a question that isn't ubuntu related but thought someone here might know, i want to define a function such as f(x) = x^2 and then find its derivative, how do i define functions in matlab, without using a .m file ?
[04:22] <Cosmo> @tanath: i dont have file management
[04:22] <tanath> Cosmo, could be hanging on something else
[04:22] <zetheroo> how do I have every folder opening in a new window?
[04:22] <__Oz__> norty: try #matlab
[04:22] <tanath> Cosmo, ok, well it's in nautilus preferences in the edit menu
[04:22] <tanath> Cosmo, you can change what shows in the menus with the menu editor
[04:22] <TurtleOfDoom> norty: you might want to try #math
[04:22] <zetheroo> anyone?
[04:22] <chrisb_> @NigelS   build-essential?  (sorry i'm a little new to linux development)
[04:22] <Cosmo> @tanath: yeah i know i got it
[04:22] <Scunizi> EnvoyRising, open terminal, type sudo apt-get install irssi.. wait.. type irssi .. once loaded type /connect irc.freenode.net
[04:22] <NigelS> chrisb_: it's a package - apt-get install build-essential
[04:23] <Erebu1> Any one with any ideas on my scanner problem?
[04:23] <nickrud> lgc: mn, (takes off sensor hat) not sure what you did, but  sudo fdisk -l might give you a clue (better error messages maybe) (puts censor hat back on, and chides lgc :)
[04:23] <Scunizi> EnvoyRising, then once connected type /join #ubuntu
[04:23] <norty> __Oz__, I am in #matlab, just thought id ask here just in case someone might know
[04:23] <Cosmo> @tanath: 5MB and Local Files Only...Done
[04:23] <EnvoyRising> Scunizi: no go. file not found
[04:23] <urface> I'm trying out evolution mail and am havign a pretty seirous problem
[04:23] <EnvoyRising> thats why i'm going to the site
[04:23] <chicagonpg_> Memtest shuts down computer does anyone know why? Running 64bit AMD athlon X2
[04:23] <__Oz__> norty: nah, we all hate that application in here.
[04:23] <__Oz__> :)
[04:23] <tanath> Cosmo, and restart nautilus
[04:23] <urface> I have roughly 1500 emails to download and says there is an input output error after every roughly 25 msgs
[04:23] <IdleOne> !repos | EnvoyRising
[04:23] <ubotu> EnvoyRising: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[04:23] <EnvoyRising> DOH! typo
[04:24] <Scunizi> EnvoyRising, you need to enable universe and multiverse repos.. in system/administration/software sources
[04:24] <ubuntu> __Oz__: i think my problem is solved! thank you soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much!
[04:24] <urface> Thunderbird had no problem downloading the same exact msgs
[04:24] <__Oz__> ubuntu: no problem, my friend
[04:24] <ubuntu> __Oz__: well i still have to ckeck lol
[04:24] <nickrud> !gutsysources | EnvoyRising
[04:24] <ubotu> EnvoyRising: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[04:24] <Cosmo> @tanath: Just by closing and then opening?
[04:24] <ubuntu> __Oz__: :)
[04:24] <EnvoyRising> IdleOne: all correct repos are enabled irc newbie, yes. linux/ubuntu newbie, no
[04:24] <lgc> nickrud, it just does it when the disk is idle. But haven't been able to start Windoze ever since. Any experience with VMWare?
[04:24] <__Oz__> ubuntu: good luck, enjoy your dual boot install, and remember: when in doubt, use ubuntu over windows!
[04:24] <fredsua> I am having trouble viewing a dvd movie.  I've gone to many forums and tried everything and it still does not work.
[04:24] <tanath> Cosmo, should work...
[04:24] <tanath> if it doesn't, you might try logging out and back in to be sure
[04:25] <devo> How do I burn a .avi onto a DVD so the DVD is like a movie that I can put in a DVD player and it will play?
[04:25] <ubuntu> __Oz__: ubuntu is better its just i needed sumtin from windows, anyway, im restarting comp and thx again :)
[04:25] <chrisb_> @NigelS    sorry, it's taking a little while
[04:25] <__Oz__> fredsua: download restricted extras package
[04:25] <tanath> Cosmo, 'cause nautilus handles the desktop too
[04:25] <nickrud> lgc: yes, I use vmware (vista inside). gparted ruined my vista partition, I had to reinstall
[04:25] <__Oz__> !medibuntu | fredsua
[04:25] <ubotu> fredsua: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:25] <Cosmo> @ tanath: Nothing.
[04:25] <fredsua> I have downloaded the extras, and nothing
[04:25] <tanath> Cosmo, if it doesn't, you might try logging out and back in to be sure
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> __Oz__: dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
[04:25] <__Oz__> devo: most use gnomebaker and DeVeDe.  However, it will require some tweaking.  Unfortunately, Ubuntu is not very good for burning DVDs, but it can be made to work.
[04:26] <fredsua> I included medibuntu, should I remove it?
[04:26] <__Oz__> fredsua: absolutely not!
[04:26] <Cosmo> @tanath: Ok here i go..ill be back
[04:26] <__Oz__> what will that do, jack_sparrow?
[04:26] <tanath> __Oz__, well, i prefer k3b...
[04:26] <lgc> nickrud, I've read that Vista is especially restrictive with fumbling with partitions.
[04:26] <__Oz__> tanath: eh, I could never get that pile of junk to work.
[04:26] <tanath> __Oz__, never really had probs with it
[04:26] <jay-oh-en> can some body help me with my internet being so slow
[04:26] <nickrud> fredsua: after you've gotten what you want from medibuntu, it's no problem if you disable it again
[04:26] <devo> __Oz__, why is this? Isn't it easy to burn a DVD?
[04:26] <tanath> __Oz__, pile of junk? k3b is the best
[04:27] <EnvoyRising> ah... vintage, yet so beautiful
[04:27] <__Oz__> tanath: sorry, it's just my perception.  I couldn't do jack squat with it.  Plus it gave me errors.  I do better with gnomebaker and DeVeDe.
[04:27] <achandrashekar> anyone familiar with smbldap-populate when installing smbldap-installer
[04:27] <tanath> __Oz__, other apps sometimes make coasters :/
[04:27] <Beryllium> jay-oh-en: Well ... I can chant in latin to help speed it up, but I don't think it will help.
[04:27] <fredsua> The problem is I can't make my movies work
[04:27] <__Oz__> devo: for various reasons, most of which have less to do with linux/ubuntu than with the competition
[04:27] <dogpigeoncow> hey i have a program i downloaded called Liquid wars 6 and i have the same problem i have with every program i download wtihout hte add/remove thing. i cant install it. i have the " ./configure      make      make install" command but i dont know how to use them coz nothing happens in terminal
[04:27] <nickrud> fredsua: you mean play them?
[04:27] <NigelS> Beryllium: worth a shot
[04:27] <__Oz__> devo: it's just an inherent weakness of ubuntu.  Well, that, and wireless support.
[04:27] <lgc> nickrud, can VMW write a virtualized OS to a reiserfs partition?
[04:28] <fredsua> yes, I can't play any movies
[04:28] <Beryllium> KLAATUS BARADUS NIKTUS! KLAATUS BARADUS NIKTUS! ... naw, doesn't seem to be helping.
[04:28] <jay-oh-en> Beryllium, its usually really fast
[04:28] <nickrud> lgc no clue
[04:28] <tritium> __Oz__: neither are specific to ubuntu
[04:28] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: make sure to have the build-essential package installed
[04:28] <nickrud> fredsua: go to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-381bea41610683e5e26322fd7028e7aef85e3105
[04:28] <devo> __Oz__, at least it recognizes it's a DVD in there... My Windows thinks it's a CD.
[04:28] <dogpigeoncow> envoyrising: which is usually what?
[04:28] <fredsua> ok
[04:28] <nickrud> fredsua: install that library, and you should be able to play dvd movies
[04:28] <tanath> __Oz__, gnomebaker or brasero would be my second choice, but k3b is my first
[04:28] <__Oz__> tritium: maybe not "specific", but they are certainly weaknesses many associate with Ubuntu and/or linux.  I realize it's not linux/ubuntu's fault, but it is frustrating.
[04:28] <fredsua> I'll give it a try right away
[04:28] <IdleOne> dogpigeoncow, in terminal type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:28] <fredsua> thanks
[04:28] <tanath> __Oz__, maybe you didn't have it set up right. it can be touchy about permissions
[04:29] <__Oz__> devo: heh, heh.
[04:29] <Beryllium> jay-oh-en: Is it possible that your network cable has been damaged, or your wireless connection is catching interference?
[04:29] <elux> when i "reload" in synaptic, i notice every server fails when trying to load: Package, Translation-en_US http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/universe
[04:29] <elux> what is goin on here?
[04:29] <__Oz__> tanath: maybe.
[04:29] <prince_jammys> nickrud: libdvdcss2?
[04:29] <__Oz__> tanath: I wasted a few hours trying to get it to burn a dvd. Finally gave up.
[04:29] <nickrud> prince_jammys: yes
[04:29] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"from command line
[04:29] <tanath> damn
[04:29] <dogpigeoncow> yes i know
[04:29] <__Oz__> I had a problem with DeVeDe distorting the audio but found a flag to include as a workaround in the command line to fix that prob, so that's what I use.
[04:29] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: then perhaps i misunderstand your question
[04:29] <jay-oh-en> Beryllium, its not wireless and i just bought this cable 30 days ago and no damage on it from what i can se
[04:29] <jay-oh-en> see
[04:29] <chrisb_> @NigelS    thanks, that fixed most of it
[04:29] <Beryllium> is it in tight on both ends
[04:29] <fredsua> nickrud: I've done that already and didn't work
[04:30] <devo> What's the hotkey for changing desktops?
[04:30] <dogpigeoncow> it now wants me to put the ubuntu disk in, is that normal?
[04:30] <chicagonpg_>  Memtest shuts down computer does anyone know why? Running 64bit AMD athlon X2 thanks
[04:30] <Osiris2014> any one here in LinuxSA?
[04:30] <chrisb_> @NigelS    i still got some more errors, but on later scripts with different header files
[04:30] <__Oz__> devo: ctrl-alt-left arrow or right arrow
[04:30] <Scunizi> devo, ctrl+alt+arrow
[04:30] <NigelS> chrisb_: yes, probably ncurses-dev for one
[04:30] <nickrud> fredsua: hm, what happens when you insert a dvd?
[04:30] <EnvoyRising> ctrl + alt + right arrow/ left arrow
[04:30] <devo> __Oz__, thanks.
[04:30] <dogpigeoncow> envoyrising: it asks for the ubuntu cd, is that normal?
[04:30] <chrisb_> @NigelS    you're right, of course
[04:30] <Osiris2014> any one here in LinuxSA?
[04:30] <chrisb_> @NigelS    installed with the apt-get?
[04:31] <dogpigeoncow> as in south africa? yes im from south africa :)
[04:31] <fredsua> want to go into chat room?
[04:31] <ph0rensic> whats up suckas
[04:31] <Les_Caesars> hey, is there a way I can eject a CD drive with just one key on the keyboard? Like in Mac
[04:31] <tickbee> Anyone have any ideas? I just built a software raid 5 with mdadm and 3 drives, after rebooting, one of the drives goes missing, but i can see the drive as /dev/hdd, but it has no partition on it anymore, /dev/hdd1, i can see my other two just fine, /dev/hde1 and /dev/hdg1, what happened to the first drives partition?
[04:31] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: just go to synaptic and disable cd from repos
[04:31] <nickrud> fredsua: I prefer to keep it here, in case someone catches something I miss
[04:31] <lgc> nickrud, someone told me I can clone a Windows partition to a virtualized one instead of installing it fresh. Was it you?
[04:31] <__Oz__> devo: we thrill to chill here at #ubuntu.  You are welcome, and ask questions of us here anytime.
[04:31] <NigelS> chicagonpg_: it could on that architecture be accidentally triggering your CPU to shutdown - that would be funny - but have you googled?
[04:31] <Beryllium> Les_Caesars: You could use xbindkeys to alias a keycode to the eject command
[04:31] <Osiris2014> i mean LinuxSouthAus
[04:31] <NigelS> chrisb_: yep
[04:31] <nickrud> fredsua: helps if you use my nick in your replies, it's red in my client
[04:31] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: then sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt get install build-essentials
[04:32] <NigelS> chrisb_: this one: libncurses5-dev
[04:32] <Les_Caesars> Beryllium: does eject toggle? If I press it while the tray is out, will it bring it back in?
[04:32] <nickrud> lgc: nope. I've heard that as well, but never tried
[04:32] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: with the cdrom disabled from repolist, it should fetch most recent stable version from internet isntead
[04:32] <fredsua> nickrud: okay, when I insert a DVD movie, the drive pops up in the desktop with the movie name, then VLM opens up to play it and I get an error
[04:32] <Beryllium> Les_Caesars: I believe it has an option to do that, yes
[04:32] <emma> My nautilus just crashed again, this time without the external hard drive mounted. So it's not the external hard drive.
[04:32] <ph0rensic> lgc, I know you can create a virtual image of your disc to use in vmware
[04:32] <dogpigeoncow> it wont let me into synaptics
[04:32] <chicagonpg_> NIGels yes I have and I have found nothing. This is a new system build and I have no problem other wise
[04:32] <nickrud> fredsua: vlc? what's the error?
[04:32] <dogpigeoncow> cant get exclusive lock
[04:32] <gary4gar> icannot open portable USB hdd, http://pastebin.com/d632be116
[04:33] <chicagonpg_> Only in memtest
[04:33] <chrisb_> @NigelS    thanks, i've started tracking down a few other missing ones aswell
[04:33] <dogpigeoncow> envoyrising: cant get exclusive lock
[04:33] <lgc> ph0rensic, you mean a virtual image of your partition?
[04:33] <Osiris2014> any one here in LinuxSouthAustralia?
[04:33] <ph0rensic> dogpigeoncow, You have something installing on command line?
[04:33] <fredsua> nickrud: yes sorry, VLC.  The error reads:  Unable to open 'dvdsimple:///dev/scd0'
[04:33] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: what else do you have running?
[04:33] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: if you are currently apt-getting something else or running an update, it'll say that
[04:33] <ph0rensic> lgc, well yes i believe that would be the case, but i think I've only seen it for vmware
[04:33]  * __Oz__ suddenly and inexplicably freaks out.
[04:33] <nickrud> fredsua: that's definitely not a libdvdcss error. This happens with every cd?
[04:34] <ph0rensic> lgc, what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:34] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: if you are and don't want to stop those processes, you can always just comment out the cdrom repo from your/etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:34] <fredsua> nickrud: yes it does
[04:34] <EnvoyRising> be sure to sudo gedit/nano/vim or whatever into it so you can save changes
[04:34] <EnvoyRising> brb
[04:34] <nickrud> fredsua: try using file->open disc on the vlc menu
[04:34] <dogpigeoncow> ok i am in synaptics
[04:35] <lgc> ph0rensic, clone an operating Windows partition into a virtualized one without having to install Windows from zero in the virtualized partition.
[04:35] <emma> I think it might be happening because of 'too many open files'
[04:35] <dogpigeoncow> where do i do that?
[04:35] <fredsua> nickrud: I have used that and nothing.  I have every single libdvdcss out there, LOL
[04:35] <EnvoyRising> open up a command prompt (or if you already have one open but it's busy, ctrl+alt+t
[04:35] <prince_jammys> fredsua: are you able to view the contents of a data cd?
[04:36] <EnvoyRising> then "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:36] <nickrud> fredsua: not libdvdcss, it's something at the hardware level. Does the dvd show up on your desktop?
[04:36] <ph0rensic> lgc, yah thats possible from what I understand, with vmware. Basically it will make an appliance of your windows partition to be used in the player
[04:36] <fredsua> nickrud: yes I can see the files in the DVD
[04:36] <EnvoyRising> ctrl+f then look for CD. comment that line out
[04:36] <Bert_> Hi i need help with my wireless network on Ubuntu, i cant get any internet
[04:36] <NigelS> chicagonpg_: it could be a fault with the memory - possibly - have you tried testing the sticks individually?
[04:36] <ray_> hey i have a creative zen 4gb i have tried gnomad2 to get my music on there and it isnt working any help?
[04:36] <fredsua> nickrud: yes the DVD pops up in the desktop
[04:37] <EnvoyRising> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10.... <line starts like that
[04:37] <chicagonpg_> Nigels no I haven't but that is a very good Idea, I will try that. Thanks
[04:37] <nickrud> fredsua: try opening it in totem:  totem dvd://
[04:37] <NigelS> chicagonpg_: yes, make sure they're operating at correct voltage etc
[04:38] <Bert_> Hi i need help with my wireless network on Ubuntu, i cant get any internet
[04:38] <dogpigeoncow> ok envoy i have disapbled CDROM in repos
[04:38] <dogpigeoncow> lets do it again
[04:38] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: dont' forget to sudo apt-get update as well
[04:38] <dogpigeoncow> the other stuff
[04:38] <tickbee> Anyone have any ideas why one of my hard drives formatted in ext3, would suddenly lose it's partition?  I see the disk as /dev/hdd but there is no /dev/hdd1 anymore.  This drive was part of a software raid 5 using mdadm, somehow ubuntu lost the partition after restarting.  When I do fdisk -l, i can see the /dev/hdd1 though???
[04:38] <fredsua> nickrud: I deleted totem since it was giving me the same error.  The reason I got rid of it is because I read that VLM is much better
[04:38] <chicagonpg_> Nigels I'm kind of a dummy on that how will I know the right voltage?
[04:39] <nickrud> fredsua: it's better for dvds, totem has it's uses
[04:39] <dogpigeoncow> done
[04:39] <chrisb_> @NigelS    thanks,  it looks like it's going to work
[04:39] <EnvoyRising> tickbee: not a hd genius but does manually mounting produce errors?
[04:39] <NigelS> chicagonpg_: SPD should configure it but I wouldn't trust it - check out your mem manufacturer's site for exact specs-  I would try out each stick individually first though, see if that's it
[04:39] <nickrud> fredsua: type mount in a terminal (with the dvd inserted) and tell me what device (dev/<device>) the dvd is mounted as
[04:40] <fredsua> nickrud: when I had it, it did not work.  I've tried opening movies with Mplayer and others similar and I get the same result
[04:40] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: side not, if ./configure produces errors about a package not being found, make sure you have the "-dev(el)" version of that package installed as well
[04:40] <ph0rensic> brb
[04:40] <EnvoyRising> side note*
[04:40] <nickrud> fredsua: I believe you :)
[04:40] <chicagonpg_> Nigels sound like a good plan you have been very helpful
[04:41] <NigelS> chicagonpg_: np
[04:41] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: trying to mount it manually just gives me an error saying it can't find the device
[04:41] <ajushi> hi, how i remove postgresql-8.1?i want to install 8.2
[04:41] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: in either /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:41] <gary4gar> i cannot open portable USB hdd, http://pastebin.com/d632be116
[04:41] <fredsua> nickrud: I'm not sure so I'll send you the results
[04:41] <EnvoyRising> tickbee: that was going to be my next question :-\
[04:41] <fredsua> nickrud: Unable to open 'dvdsimple:///dev/scd0'
[04:42] <EnvoyRising> exactly when did it stop recognizing your device?
[04:42] <nickrud> fredsua: you can put the output from mount on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:42] <urface> Does anybody know if I can make the Icons in Evolution Mail at the top smaller?
[04:42] <urface> thus use up an aweful lot of room
[04:42] <Devourer> What's the console command to see all the processes running?
[04:42] <emma> My nautilus just crashed again. This time I found some info in the xsession-errors, could someone take a look? --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56582/
[04:43] <Liono_> pam is the pluggable authentication modules framework used by some unix(-ish) systems. it logs unsuccessful screen unlock events but not succesful ones in auth.log. i need succesful ones too. can i replace this pam with the one that does logs? or any other solutions    ?
[04:43] <crhylove> Hi I just got booted into failsafe gnome, after updates.  Any help?
[04:43] <dogpigeoncow> envoyrising: couldnt find package build-esentials
[04:43] <crhylove> i mean, regular login just goes right back to login screen after brief black screen.
[04:43] <urface> Devourer, ps -ax
[04:43] <crhylove> any idea how to get my regular gnome back?
[04:43] <DoYouKnow> dogpigeoncow, two "s"
[04:43] <fredsua> nickrud: open your chat really quick so that I can copy and past the results
[04:44] <Devourer> urface, thanks.
[04:44] <jrod> hello
[04:44] <Overlord_David> Hello.
[04:44] <jrod> how would someone go about backing up their entire ubuntu system applications and all?
[04:44] <crhylove> Also, upon boot, the screen seems set to 640x480.
[04:44] <Osiris2014> any one here in LinuxSouthAustralia?
[04:44] <nickrud> crhylove: clt-alt-f2 , sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , clt-alt-f7. Should reset everything to normal for you
[04:44] <crhylove> rather than the normal 1280x 1024
[04:44] <DoYouKnow> dogpigeoncow, build-essentials
[04:44] <crhylove> nickrud: thanks!
[04:45] <Hammer89> Hello... I've been having some issues with stuff initializing properly on my computer... my last issue I couldn't get nautilus to run... and it returned a message saying it was a problem with bonobo-activation-server... so I killed bonobo-activation-server and re-ran it... then everything worked properly.... thing is, this keeps occurring... and I'd appreciate any help I could get in figuring out what the root of the problem is, or an
[04:45] <Hammer89> y possible fixes
[04:45] <dogpigeoncow> sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt get install build-essentials
[04:45] <dogpigeoncow> i mean
[04:45] <dogpigeoncow> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[04:45] <DoYouKnow> build-essential
[04:45] <nickrud> dogpigeoncow: no s on essential
[04:45] <DoYouKnow> there's no s
[04:45] <jrod> anyone?
[04:45] <dogpigeoncow> ooooooh
[04:45] <DoYouKnow> yeah, lol
[04:45] <emma> My Nautilus is crashing chronically. I have a pastebin if anyone thinks they could help me figure out what's going on.
[04:45] <nickrud> DoYouKnow: you said essentials ;p
[04:46] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: thats my mistake, dunno why i put an s there. installed the package so many times :P
[04:46] <fredsua> nickrud: is posted now
[04:46] <nickrud> fredsua: could you tell me the url to look at?
[04:46] <EnvoyRising> emma. whats the url?
[04:46] <DoYouKnow> after much discovery, there is apparently an extra s at the end of what you said and an "s" lacking in the meat of the word
[04:46] <Kalamansi> hello how to configure my 10 statics ip of my isp? I have 4 NICs...i want to use my static isp
[04:46] <simps> Does anyone know how to add to the clipboard or see the clipboard via terminal commands?
[04:46] <FourX4Luvn> That is why you 'apt-get install build-essen<tab>'  :)
[04:46] <fredsua> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56583/
[04:46] <Overlord_David> I have a few questions about product functionality on Ubuntu... I just ordered a Wifi Link brand Wifi dongle and I'm a bit worried about it not working on my Ubuntu. Also I'd like to know if Gamebridge works on it, and if not what would work to record gameplay vids?
[04:46] <emma> EnvoyRising,  here it is -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56582/
[04:47] <fredsua> nickrud: sorry, I'm new at this
[04:47] <dogpigeoncow> envoyrising: but now it doesnt say anything is installed
[04:47] <Osiris2014> any one here in LinuxSouthAustralia?
[04:47] <nickrud> fredsua: no problem. And I'm beginning to think I'm stumped.
[04:47] <zetheroo> anyone?
[04:47] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: so it says 0 packages to install or that the package can't be found?
[04:48] <dogpigeoncow> 0 packages to install
[04:48] <nickrud> fredsua: thinking, sorta
[04:48] <Overlord_David> Does anyone know about that sort of thing?
[04:48] <crhylove> It's telling me xserver-xorg is not available, and there is no information available.
[04:48] <simps> Does anyone know how to add to the clipboard or see the clipboard via terminal commands?
[04:48] <ac1d> download a networking tool called 'Dynamips' in a .bin form but when i try to use it it says... 'No app suitable for automatically installing this app'
[04:48] <ac1d> what do i do?
[04:49] <emma> wow it looks like even the ubuntu-pastebin isn't working right.
[04:49] <N6REJ> anyone know anything about the ubuntu-studio 64bit not working on install?
[04:49] <fredsua> nickrud: I ran this software called gxine which does a check of the drive
[04:49] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: then its already installed it woudl seem
[04:49] <alanna> hey, I am installing wine, why do I get this while ./configure : checking for C compiler default output file name
[04:49] <prince_jammys> !info xserver-xorg
[04:49] <ubotu> xserver-xorg (source: xorg): the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[04:49] <N6REJ> ac 1d .bin is for mac
[04:49] <EnvoyRising> just need the devel packages to meet dependencies so you can build whatever it is you want to build from source
[04:49] <alanna> what package do I get for: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:49] <nickrud> fredsua: and? gxine is a decent dvd player also
[04:49] <crhylove> I'm not very good with the command line, is there a way to reconfigure xserver-xorg in the gui?
[04:49] <ac1d> N6REJ: then what could i use?
[04:49] <N6REJ> for?
[04:49] <jeebs> uhm...how do i switch to super user on fluxbuntu?
[04:50] <nickrud> crhylove: no, you have to use that command to reconfigure X
[04:50] <ac1d> N6REJ: it only comes in a .bin or a .exe form... and i really need this program called 'Dynmaips' how else could i install it?
[04:50] <N6REJ> ac 1d i take that back there are some *nix files that are that way too but few
[04:50] <crhylove> When I did that it said package doesn't exist.
[04:50] <jrod> @ crhylove try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[04:50] <fredsua> nickrud: when I run the wizard setup the drive is not found and the DMA is not found
[04:50] <jrod> * xorg.cong
[04:50] <prince_jammys> jeebs  sudo <command>
[04:50] <jrod> *xorg.conf
[04:50] <Leechzilla> Though my sound works, there is no output from the headphone jack and SPDIF port. Do I need to compile ALSA from source or is there another alternative?
 crhylove: no, you have to use that command to reconfigure X
[04:50] <N6REJ> ac1d what is it?
[04:50] <EnvoyRising> emma i couldn't really gather anything from pastebin except for the obvious "maybe you're opening too much at once" assumption. anyone else got any ideas?
[04:50] <LiraNuna> I think he means sudo dpkg-reconfigure zxserver-xorg
[04:51] <fredsua> nickrud: could be something with the DMA?
[04:51] <Overlord_David> Does anyone know?
[04:51] <nickrud> fredsua: yeah, it's about the hardware, and I'm not real good at hardware issues.
[04:51] <ac1d> N6REJ: a cisco networking simulator kind of like Packet tracer except more advanced
[04:51] <Kalamansi> hello how to install adobe player in ubuntu? so I could read some adobe products
[04:51] <N6REJ> ac1d: did you check the repository?
[04:51] <ac1d> N6REJ: nope...
[04:51] <ac1d> N6REJ: ill have a look
[04:51] <nickrud> crhylove: you probably mistyped:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg  (or I mistyped, this is spelled correctly)
[04:51] <N6REJ> and its dynamips
[04:51] <N6REJ> lol
[04:51] <EnvoyRising> Leechzilla: i know i always have to change the output under preferences to headphones to get my stuff working
[04:52] <ac1d> N6REJ: gosh, i have great spelling lol
[04:52] <EnvoyRising> i assume you've already tried that though
[04:52] <fredsua> nickrud: if it was working fine in windows xp, do you really think it would be a hardware problem?
[04:52] <N6REJ> ac1d: http://swik.net/User:blindhog/Tips+and+Tutorials+-+Linux+.%3A+Cisco+%3A.+VOIP/GNS3+-+Installation+Tutorial+for+Linux/b1z43
[04:52] <nickrud> fredsua: I've got to punt this one myself. When you describe the error, add the exact error from vlc and from gxine to your question
[04:52] <EnvoyRising> ac1d: its ok, we aren't spelling/grammar junkies here
[04:52] <Leechzilla> EnvoyRising: How do I do that?
[04:52] <nickrud> fredsua: reading hardware by linux I mean
[04:52] <emma> It seems unusual that a person could open too much at once. I'm just opening music. But some times I switch between them quickly. Could it be that when you click on music to open it, it doesn't really close the other one so to speak?
[04:53] <Kalamansi> how to install a pdf? so I could view pdf files of ebook and flash player?
[04:53] <N6REJ> nope only said it so he'd find it int he repo
[04:53] <EnvoyRising> Leechzilla: right click on the volume control in the notification area (top right by default) and click preferences
[04:53] <Liono_> pam is the pluggable authentication modules framework used by some unix(-ish) systems. it logs unsuccessful screen unlock events but not succesful ones in auth.log. i need succesful ones too. can i replace this pam with the one that does logs? or any other solutions --   ?
[04:53] <N6REJ> Kalamansi: install the adobe reader from repo or use the one in FF
[04:53] <EnvoyRising> click on Headphones in the little box at the bottom
[04:53] <ac1d> EnvoyRising: hehehe, much love!
[04:54] <Overlord_David> Wow... nobody at all?
[04:54] <Leechzilla> EnvoyRising: And select Headphones from there? That's it? It's supposed to detect a headphone plugged in instead of me having to do it manually. Not just that, the SPDIF port also doesn't work.
[04:54] <EnvoyRising> ac1d: now, that might change once you visit the ubuntu-english-class channel\
[04:54] <fredsua> nickrud: I really like linux ubuntu, but if I can't play a DVD movie on my drive then is worthless
[04:54] <N6REJ> Overlord_David: what?
[04:54] <N6REJ> fredsua: ubuntu can play dvd
[04:54]  * jeebs pounds the keyboard into his face
[04:54] <chipset> How?
[04:54] <EnvoyRising> Leechzilla: well, i've had mixed results with mixed hardware. on my desktop it did it automatically, but with this hp laptop (intel hda audio) it didn't
[04:54] <nickrud> fredsua: don't take my failure as a letdown, I'm no expert on dvd playback. Others that pass through here know a lot more than I do.
[04:54] <ph0rensic> everyone with their "if I cant X i'm going back to windows..."
[04:55] <Leechzilla> EnvoyRising: I'm using a laptop too
[04:55] <nickrud> fredsua: also, you might find some smarter help on #vlc
[04:55] <Overlord_David> As I asked. I ordered a wifi-link (wifi max) wifi dongle. I'm afraid of it not working. Will it work? And also does game bridge work? If not what could I use for ubuntu to make gameplay videos?
[04:55] <fredsua> :-) thank you
[04:55] <EnvoyRising> Leechzilla: ah. then, i've lever really investigated much further, being i don't often use headphones
[04:55] <selig5> fredsua: get vlc media player, it can play dvds
[04:56] <ph0rensic> nickrud, he has the latest libdvd and all that?
[04:56] <EnvoyRising> i'm sure theres a way to automate this
[04:56] <NigelS> Overlord_David: have you checked the info at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:56] <fredsua> nickrud, I'll try going there now
[04:56] <N6REJ> Overlord_David: your asking if this new engine your designing will work in your chevy!  IDK, nobody does, it depends on the card... check the compatiblity list b4 u buy
[04:56] <nickrud> ph0rensic: yes, it's not even seeing his dvd's. None of them are. Errors opening them
[04:56] <jrod> does anyone know how to backup a ubuntu install programs settings included?
[04:56] <Leechzilla> EnvoyRising: Most importantly, it's SPDIF that I really need to get to work
[04:56] <N6REJ> jrod: are they encoded in ur region?
[04:56] <Overlord_David> I don't really understand that kinda stuff.
[04:57] <Kalamansi> N6REJ: I don't see "adobe" and "FF" words there. I tried to find them
[04:57] <Leechzilla> !flash
[04:57] <Devourer> How do I adjust my sound levels?
[04:57] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:57] <EnvoyRising> Leechzilla: well, while not spdif, it appears that just leaving it on headphones lets me autoswitch
[04:57] <N6REJ> !pdf
[04:57] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[04:57] <EnvoyRising> that is, headphones recognizes when i have it plugged in or not, while all other options seem to ignore head pohones
[04:57] <N6REJ> !firefox
[04:57] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:57] <nickrud> EnvoyRising: I see you're discovering the joys of ircing in #ubuntu already
[04:57] <emma> I often switch between songs but clicking the icons for the songs themselves. Could it be that when I don't let one song finish, and click on another one to start a different one, etc, that this is accumating some how?
[04:57] <Leechzilla> EnvoyRising: Doesn't work for me :[
[04:58] <emma> I always assumed that when I cant hear the song playing then it's not open any more.
[04:58] <EnvoyRising> Leechzilla: well, i hate to do this, but if no one else can give you a hand, the forums are really good
[04:58] <dogpigeoncow> its not
[04:58] <dogpigeoncow> its not at all
[04:58] <Kalamansi> !adobe
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <EnvoyRising> Leechzilla: though, searching them kind of sucks.. google is better ala site:ubuntuforums.org <search term>
[04:58] <Kalamansi> !pdf
[04:58] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[04:59] <dogpigeoncow> envorising: i needed to install something else to run it called GMP
[04:59] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: gmp? justa sec
[04:59] <Overlord_David> What's a chevy anyway?
[04:59] <dogpigeoncow> so now im installing GMP and after ./configure i do 'make' and nothing happens
[04:59] <dogpigeoncow> it doesnt know wat i mean
[05:00]  * N6REJ *smashs head on keyboard*
[05:00] <jrod> do u have gcc installed?
[05:00] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: you have to install the gmp dev package
[05:00] <prince_jammys> emma in nautilus::: Edit> Preferences> Preview> "Preview sound files:" - Never
[05:00] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: specifically libgmp3-dev
[05:00] <dogpigeoncow> how?
[05:00] <Overlord_David> Also I don't even know what a wifi dongle would qualify as on that wiki page.
[05:01] <EnvoyRising> like you do with all the other packages silly via synaptic OR  sudo apt-get install libgmp3-dev
[05:01] <EnvoyRising> or sudo aptitude lib-gmp3-dev
[05:01] <qed> i have a 2 partition drive on my laptop from work               -- the 2nd partition is like 60 gigs, does an
[05:01] <qed>               ubuntu live CD repartition so I wont lose data on               that second partition?  I want to repartition and
[05:01] <qed>               put a 20gig Ubuntu install on the 2nd partition
[05:01] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way to revert to my entire filesystem back to how it was when I installed it?
[05:01] <qed> whoa sorry for how broken that is
[05:02] <EnvoyRising> qed:  the livecd lets you select which partition to instal onto and how much of that partition to dedicate to ubuntu
[05:02] <Exershio> hey, I'm having such a hard time right now. I did a fresh install of gutsy, tried doing a binary install of 8.02 radeon drivers, then reverted back and tried using the restricted driver manager to use the proprietary drivers that are in the repository, but it keeps using Mesa! I don't know why it doesn't get the fact I want fglrx
[05:02] <dogpigeoncow> envoyrising: are those commands the same?
[05:02] <N6REJ> Overlord_David: if you use a well known wifi card you probably will be fine.  You can always check with the manufacturer to see if they have linux drivers
[05:02] <tickbee> Anyone have any ideas why one of my hard drives formatted in ext3, would suddenly lose it's partition?  I see the disk as /dev/hdd but there is no /dev/hdd1 anymore.  This drive was part of a software raid 5 using mdadm, somehow ubuntu lost the partition after restarting.  When I do fdisk -l, i can see the /dev/hdd1 though???
[05:02] <N6REJ> stay away from belkin
[05:02] <Overlord_David> It isn't a wifi card
[05:02] <Overlord_David> it's a dongle you plug into the USB port.
[05:03] <dogpigeoncow> now i need sudo GUile 1.8
[05:03] <EnvoyRising> dogpigeoncow: essentially. aptitude just remembers dependencies better so that when you uninstall packages you don't have a whole bunch of extra packages left over. supposedly apt-get does this nowadays, but i'm not sure how well
[05:03] <N6REJ> Overlord_David: dude it is a card!! what do you think is in that dongle??
[05:03] <Overlord_David> It's designed specificly for things like a PSP or Nintendo DS.
[05:03] <EnvoyRising> apt-get is the defacto though, so i'd go with that one since you're more familiar with it
[05:03] <Overlord_David> Heck if I know. hah
[05:03] <N6REJ> Overlord_David: kk, so you want to use a psp dev on a pc?
[05:03] <dogpigeoncow> *** Liquid War 6 needs Guile 1.8 (
[05:03] <dogpigeoncow> now?
[05:03] <Overlord_David> yeah so I can use X-link Kai
[05:04] <Overlord_David> but I also use Vonage
[05:04] <simps> Does anyone know how to add to the clipboard or see the clipboard via terminal commands?
[05:04] <N6REJ> Overlord_David: why not jsut use a reg wifi card?
[05:04] <KiD_ChAoS> how can i update my repositories? For instance i want to download and install KDE 4 but if i go to add/remove programs i only see older versions
[05:04] <N6REJ> trying to save $$?
[05:04] <EnvoyRising> install that dev package s well dogpigeoncow :(
[05:04] <Overlord_David> so instead of getting a second router with wireless
[05:04] <Overlord_David> because they don't seem to have phone jacks
[05:04] <Overlord_David> this seemed to be the cost effective way.
[05:04] <dogpigeoncow> yes i know but wat is the command for that? isnt it also some fancy name with nubmers?
[05:04] <Overlord_David> as it was 10 bucks.
[05:05] <dogpigeoncow> where do i find the name to use in code
[05:05] <Magishen> hey guys how do i see what scripts load when ubuntu starts
[05:05] <N6REJ> wth??? wait a minute what are you talking about lol now you've got me totally lost.....
[05:05] <EnvoyRising> you have access to your synaptic yet?
[05:05] <N6REJ> you've already bought the device?
[05:05] <EnvoyRising> !apt
[05:05] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:05] <qed> so just to clarify, as i understand it, ubuntu comes with partition tools to repartition an existing partition with data on it to prevent data loss, and still install ubuntu assuming enough free space exists?
[05:05] <qed> is this correct?
[05:05] <emma> prince_jammys,  oooooh.. That makes a lot of sense. That could really be it!
[05:05] <emma> prince_jammys,  how do you know all of these things??
[05:05] <prince_jammys> emma i am a google master :)
[05:06] <exst_mhua> Is there a good tutorial or article about remote desktop (for accessing & to access) for Ubuntu?
[05:06] <prince_jammys> emma   googled ubuntu flac too many open files
[05:06] <Magishen> how do i see what starts up when ubuntu starts
[05:06] <EnvoyRising> prince_jammys: lmao i suppose i always assume people have already tried google before coming here
[05:06] <emma> prince_jammys,  i really did look around on google for this one, but you must have really looked in the right place.
[05:06] <Overlord_David> It basicly plugs into my hard wired PC and sends a wireless signal from that.  If vonage sold wireless routers with phone jacks this wouldn't have came up. As my computer can also receive wireless signal.
[05:06] <prince_jammys> emma i know, the flac is what did it
[05:07] <exst_mhua> Magishen, under System > Admin > services
[05:07] <prince_jammys> emma you have been unlucky
[05:07] <EnvoyRising> flac is a sound codec, right?
[05:07] <prince_jammys> emma finding all the bugs
[05:07] <emma> prince_jammys,  i was googling:  nautilus ubuntu crash  and then for a while:  nautilus ubuntu external hard drive.
[05:07] <mcalautt> hello
[05:07] <EnvoyRising> hi mcalautt what you need?
[05:07] <qed> so just to clarify, as i understand it, ubuntu comes with partition tools to repartition an existing partition with data on it to prevent data loss, and still install ubuntu assuming enough free space exists?
[05:07] <mcalautt> was installing server edition
[05:07] <emma> prince_jammys,  yeah from my perspective Feisty was so much better :) But I have to believe people when everyone is saying Gutsy is better.
[05:07] <prince_jammys> emma i know, it was the flac that brought up the post
[05:08] <EnvoyRising> emma: with google, too vague of searches gets you no where. usually, if you type in the exact error, you'll find an answer pretty quick
[05:08] <prince_jammys> emma you have been exceptionally unlucky
[05:08] <mcalautt> skipped over my network card .. said it wasnt detected.
[05:08] <emma> I always kind of thought I was exceptionally unlucky..
[05:08] <Magishen> Does anyone know when I start ubuntu why it freezes within like 15 seconds.. is there anyway i can stop this?
[05:08] <prince_jammys> emma  lol
[05:08] <EnvoyRising> emma: in fact, i usually just cut and paste from the command line the error i get and get brought to the exact post
[05:09] <emma> *nods* you guys really have a knack of this.
[05:09] <tickbee> Anyone have any ideas why one of my hard drives formatted in ext3, would suddenly lose it's partition?  I see the disk as /dev/hdd but there is no /dev/hdd1 anymore.  This drive was part of a software raid 5 using mdadm, somehow ubuntu lost the partition after restarting.  When I do fdisk -l, i can see the /dev/hdd1 though???
[05:09] <fredsua> need help getting my movie DVDs to work
[05:09] <KiD_ChAoS> whats the easiest way of installing the KDE desktop enviorment
[05:09] <exst_mhua> Magishen, heres a good read where to look for apps & services that run during startup http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Speed-up_Ubuntu
[05:09] <EnvoyRising> KiD_ChAoS: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:09] <samuel> sup guys
[05:10] <martin_> Someoen just helped me with this the other day, do'h. How do I add a user to a group? I'm trying to run VirtualBox but the user needs root privledges
[05:10] <KiD_ChAoS> EnvoyRising, will that install all the components to? like my wifi manager and all that
[05:10] <mcalautt> was installing server edition and it skipped over my network card .. said it wasnt detected... its a known card..  3com 3c509.  do I need a driver disk or something ?
[05:10] <EnvoyRising> KiD_ChAoS: yeah, just install and log out, then click kde from sessions
[05:11] <Leechzilla> Though my sound works, there is no output from the headphone jack and SPDIF port. Do I need to compile ALSA from source or is there another alternative to get the latest version?
[05:11] <mcalautt> u can use usermod to add a user to a groujp
[05:11] <KiD_ChAoS> EnvoyRising, ok
[05:11] <mcalautt> usermod -G <group> <username>
[05:11] <KiD_ChAoS> thank you EnvoyRising
[05:12] <Magishen> Alright thanks a lot exst_mhua im gonna restart and see if this works..
[05:12] <exst_mhua> Magishen, np
[05:14] <EnvoyRising> KiD_ChAoS: np
[05:15] <EnvoyRising> finally settled down in here, lol
[05:15] <erudified> Hey all, is Hardy stable enough to use yet?
[05:16] <Ububegin> hei guys any recommendations for a great theme like Ubuntu-satanic edition like that
[05:16] <erudified> Last I tried it, I believe XGL was broken (some gtk sudo permissions error?)
[05:16] <tickbee> If only there was a hard drive/fs guru :(
[05:16] <erudified> Ububegin, I love the Murrine engine and MurrineLoveGray
[05:16] <emma> This is really the page that seems to have people with a similar problem as me -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592626&page=3
[05:16] <emma> so that's good that Ubuntu is aware of this.
[05:16] <Owner> what kind of shell is goin to use on remote machine we we use "rsh"?
[05:16] <prince_jammys> emma some general google tips: start with the word "ubuntu" -- paste a chunk of the literal error message (try both within quotes and without) -- if a long error message doesnt work, just a piece that you think is descriptive -- and if that doesnt work, a keyword of what you're doing when the error happens (ie. mounting, playing music) ...
[05:16] <prince_jammys> emma yes, thats the page
[05:16] <EnvoyRising> tickbee: yeah, sorry man. you lost me at raid :(
[05:17] <Ububegin> erudified: engine.... i am just looking for a visual theme...
[05:17] <prince_jammys> emma but it only turned up early with the keyword "flac" included
[05:17] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: ya, the problem is i don't know if it's the raid that screwed it up, or ubuntu
[05:17] <erudified> Yes, GTK has theme engines
[05:17] <erudified> Murrine uses Cairo for drawing, so it's fast if you have compositing
[05:17] <erudified> and it looks great, especially with G-Flat SVG icons ;
[05:17] <EnvoyRising> tickbee: you could always try running a livecd and see if its recognized. that would at least let you know that its a config problem and not hardware failure
[05:18] <Ububegin> erudfied: hmm, maybe worth a look... tks
[05:18] <carpediem> Ububegin: what theme are you looking for?
[05:18] <prince_jammys> emma anyway it doesnt seem that the sound preview thing is fully reliable , but maybe it works
[05:18] <Owner> how can I get shell name - get name of the shell (bash - csh ,etc) thatm I'm using now ?
[05:18] <erudified> What version of the FGLRX driver is currently in Hardy?
[05:18] <prince_jammys> emma that definitely qualifies as a bug
[05:18] <Ububegin> something like satanic edition... where they change everything like sound, artwork and so forth...
[05:18] <macogw> Owner: "ps" will show it
[05:19] <erudified> Last time I tried it, XGL was broken and AIGLX was slow as hell
[05:19] <macogw> Owner: without any arguments it just shows whats running in that shell
[05:19] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: it's worth trying, though I'd still be effectively stuck, I have a feeling it's not hardware failure, everything looks fine in fdisk -l, and mdadm is finicky enough that it most likely then not, is part of the problem
[05:19] <prince_jammys> emma notice that the bonobo thing appears in the same thread
[05:19] <Owner> oh yeah
[05:19] <Ububegin> carpediem: something like satanic edition... where they change everything like sound, artwork and so forth...
[05:19] <EnvoyRising> tickbee:  i know you say mounting fails but have you tried a forced mount?
[05:19] <carpediem> Ububegin: no such thing, as far as I know.  I could be wrong, but most of the time themes are specific to one part of the overall system
[05:20] <erudified> carpediem, check out gnome-look.org - like I said, I use the Murrine engine, MurrineLoveGray, and the G-Flat SVG Icon themes, with Kiba dock
[05:20] <Ububegin> carpediem: Oh, so Ubuntu Satanic is currently the only one... :O
[05:20] <EnvoyRising> prince_jammys: geez, i thought they were deprecating bonobo anyways :-\
[05:20] <erudified> if your card supports compositing, it's silly nasty omg fast ;)
[05:20] <prince_jammys> EnvoyRising: i dont know what it is
[05:20] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: even forcing it still gives it an error that it can't find it
[05:20] <erudified> Firefox 3.0b3 is recommended too, it integrates really really nicely with your gnome icon theme
[05:20] <own1x> Heya, I was wondering if anyone in here has gotten q3.nrg to mount successfully ?
[05:20] <carpediem> erudified: he said something that includes new sounds.  I've tried every single theme on gnome-look, and as I said, no such thing I know of
[05:21] <Liono_> pam is the pluggable authentication modules framework used by some unix(-ish) systems. it logs unsuccessful screen unlock events but not succesful ones in auth.log. i need succesful ones too. can i replace this pam with the one that does logs? or any other solutions --   ?
[05:21] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: it's all really weird, if the partition didn't show up in fdisk -l, i would think something with the hardware is up, but since it shows up fine, and everything looks right, i just don't see what differentiates it from any of my other hard drives which have no problem showing up
[05:21] <erudified> carpediem, I guess you didn't click the "SYSTEM SOUNDS" button eh? ;)
[05:22] <Magishen> Oi I restarted and I noticed the file where I can go to my windows documents is gone and ubuntu keeps freezing :l
[05:22] <Owner> in which file can I set environment variables for all user for sh shell ?
[05:22] <EnvoyRising> tickbee: damn, i'm stumped. **flashes the hd guru man signal and waits for help**
[05:24] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: lol, well thanks for the suggestions anyways, i hate problems like this, i don't even know what to google for, it's such an obscure problem, looking for "detect disk but not partition" and things like it gives me nothing useful
[05:24] <tickbee> irc was my last bastion of hope
[05:24] <jay-oh-en> wheres java located
[05:24] <jay-oh-en> sun java
[05:24] <erudified> which java
[05:25] <EnvoyRising> jay-oh-en: or if which shows nothing "locate java"
[05:25] <samuel> is it possible to share a unionfs directory via nfs kernel server?
[05:25] <simps> Does anyone know how to add to the clipboard or see the clipboard via terminal commands?
[05:25] <EnvoyRising> tickbee: i hear ya. i just hate when people come here and CAN'T find help. back of my head i'm thinkin "darn, and thats one of the few things we have over microsoft"
[05:26] <prince_jammys> tickbee: you have a device that you can see with fdisk -l but you cant mount it?
[05:26] <Magishen> Does anyone have any ideas why Ubuntu keeps freezing on me? It keeps freezing, the only thing I can move is the mouse..anyone?
[05:26] <Magishen> simps: right click
[05:26] <erudified> few things? hahah, I guess you haven't tried vista ;)
[05:26] <tickbee> prince_jammys: yes, it shows up fine in fdisk -l, /dev/hdd and /dev/hdd1, but when i look in /dev, i only see /dev/hdd
[05:27] <pjm491> Anyone know how to get a Nvidia 8800 Card working in Ubuntu?  I am new to Ubuntu....but it appears that the system is not detecting my card....I found instructions on Google that did not seem to help me...I am using Ubuntu 7.10 and AMD64 bit edition......
[05:27] <EnvoyRising> erudified: i was assuming that vista wasn't in the consideration as a representation of windows, as much as kde4 isn't a representation of kde or linux :P
[05:27] <tickbee> prince_jammys: fdisk -l see's all my disks fine, no problems whatsoever, but trying to mount or do anything with /dev/hdd1, all i get is device not found errors
[05:27] <EnvoyRising> fyi vista came preinstalled on this laptop
[05:27] <simps> Magishen, but i want it so that i can type a command and it'll show the clipboard
[05:27] <emma> prince_jammys,  yep I think it's a bug. I posted a message to the last person there, because they still think they have to logout completely to fix it.  I found  you can open a terminal and type killall nautilus and that fixes it as long as restarting does, but without having to interupt any apps.
[05:27] <thechitowncubs> Can someone tell me if I just completely borked my install, i just uninstalled ldap on my server while i was logged in as a client
[05:27] <thechitowncubs> and i have no other users on my install besides root
[05:28] <thechitowncubs> but I can't login as root
[05:28] <prince_jammys> emma hope it works ... it made sense because i remember you mentioning that you had a lot of music on one drive
[05:28] <Leechzilla> !alsa
[05:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:28] <erudified> EnvoyRising, Same thing applies to XP - no real shell, circa 1995 UI, weakest file manager on any platform, etc
[05:28] <Les_Caesars> is there a way I can keep track of what a program does in the terminal? I'm trying to figure out what makes the "EJECT" emblem come up when I hit the eject key. I want to make the same emblem come up in a bash script I'm making
[05:28] <EnvoyRising> erudified: true. lmao.. imagine my surprise trying to grep on cmd
[05:28] <emma> Well a goodly amount. 1.7 Gigs in one directory.
[05:28] <erudified> The only thing any version of windows has going for it is Office and the Adobe suite
[05:29] <EnvoyRising> erudified: but they have crysis :P
[05:29] <erudified> Yeah, games, but I think most people have a console nowadays
[05:29] <thechitowncubs> Anyone have any idea if i can get back into my system
[05:29] <pjm491> Anyone know how to get a Nvidia 8800 Card working in Ubuntu?  I am new to Ubuntu....but it appears that the system is not detecting my card....I found instructions on Google that did not seem to help me...I am using Ubuntu 7.10 and AMD64 bit edition......
[05:29] <AtomicSpark> erudified: second
[05:29] <erudified> Except FPS/RTS folks I suppose
[05:29] <prince_jammys> tickbee: have you tried mounting it thru fstab?
[05:29] <EnvoyRising> erudified: let us also keep in mind i was speaking specifically on a community/customer service point of view
[05:30] <EnvoyRising> speaking of file manager >when will gnome fix the horrible file chooser dialog
[05:30] <EnvoyRising> ?
[05:30] <tickbee> prince_jammys: yes, that's how I was normally mounting it, then one time when i restarted, it didn't mount, and hasn't mounted ever since
[05:30] <erudified> hehehe, I like the type-ahead find in the gnome file dialog
[05:30] <emma> prince_jammys,  something else I read there sounded like maybe Nautilus starts the preview on mouseover, which would make sense since I putz around with the mouse while I'm sitting here listening, my mouse really goes everywhere.
[05:30] <thechitowncubs> help please
[05:31] <thechitowncubs> can i login as root somehow?
[05:31] <EnvoyRising> as for the person asking about the 8800, download the nvidia proprietary drivers and restart
[05:31] <prince_jammys> emma yeah
[05:31] <thechitowncubs> !root
[05:31] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:31] <erudified> emma, check out the nautilus scripts on gnome-look, maybe you can find a replacement?
[05:31] <erudified> and what the hell are audio previews, any way?
[05:31] <prince_jammys> tickbee how is it identified in fstab?  as /dev/blah   or UUID?
[05:31] <dehspehl> EnvoyRising: I believe it's in GTK so you would have to change that manually.
[05:31] <erudified> I think it's a gnome/nautilus thing, not a gtk thing (could be wrong though)
[05:32] <pjm491> anyone using a Nvidia 8800 GTS card with Ubuntu?  How did you get it to work properly???
[05:32] <dehspehl> EnvoyRising: I take it you are talking about the GTKFileChooser or whatever
[05:32] <EnvoyRising> dehspehl: ha, like the dev team would even accept that as a patch... "but it's too complicated for users" they'd say
[05:32] <KLin> Can anyone tell me why Gimp 2.2 hangs at the search for plug-ins in version 6.06 (Dapper)?
[05:32] <EnvoyRising> dehspehl: yes i am
[05:32] <erudified> EnvoyRising, what's wrong with it?
[05:32] <erudified> I don't really like the left pane myself
[05:32] <Leechzilla> How can I update my alsa to the latest version without compiling it from source? I can get it from hardy repositories or something?
[05:32] <Jigs> hello there, how to change the dual boot menu? i wanna make my xp the as the primary and make my ubuntu as my secondary.. and how to change the time delay?
[05:33] <tickbee> prince_jammys: Ok, backstory, it's not mounted directly, it's mounted as part of a /dev/md0 device that uses /dev/hdd1, /dev/hde1, /hdev/hdg1, and that uses /dev/md0 uses a UUID loaded from a mdadm.conf
[05:33] <erudified> I do prefer it to the windows file dialog simply because of the type-ahead find, but in the file path text box, if you put in a directory and hit enter the dialog doesn't switch to that dir, and that is The Suck
[05:33] <prince_jammys> tickbee: ah
[05:33] <EnvoyRising> erudified: the pane, the lack of a tree view
[05:34] <tickbee> prince_jammys: all three of those, hdd1, hde1, hdg1 show up fine in fdisk -l, hde1 and hdg1 show up in the /dev folder, but hdd1 does not
[05:34] <erudified> EnvoyRising, It may actually be gconf-editable, worth looking into
[05:34] <EnvoyRising> just seems lacking in features compared to kde's
[05:34] <dehspehl> EnvoyRising: that's why you have to replace it manually. keeping forks and patches are common in open source, but at least they are possible
[05:34] <AtomicSpark> here is a question i've been wondering, when installing new software and it comes with dependencies, when uninstalling said software, it doesn't remove the dependencies that it installed. is there any way to get rid of anything safely?
[05:34] <tickbee> prince_jammys: so when it goes to mount /dev/md0 at startup, it can't find /dev/hdd1, it only sees the other 2
[05:34] <AtomicSpark> *everything not anything
[05:35] <erudified> I used to be a KDE user, but they've kinda jumped the shark with KDE4... I go for more of a minimalist desktop, not lacking in eye candy (I love the cube/scale compiz effects, and they're silly fast) but there's minimal screen real estate wasted
[05:35] <EnvoyRising> dehspehl: i should count my blessings that at least i can change things manually instead of having to wait 3 years for a release that botches it up futher, huh? (**cough, vista** cough)
[05:35] <erudified> the new KDE dock/menu just eat wayyy to much screen for my taste
[05:35] <tickbee> prince_jammys: i'm pretty confident "wiping" out the hard drives would fix it so they detect again, but after i setup the raid again, i will most likely be back to square 1
[05:35] <erudified> I'm sure it'll get much better though
[05:35] <erudified> I like how compositing is more integral to the desktop
[05:35] <dehspehl> erudified: no, it won't
[05:35] <EnvoyRising> erudified: i like e17 myself. i cant wait until that gets into a usable state
[05:36] <erudified> Yeah, E17 is philosophically where I want to be
[05:36] <AtomicSpark> erudified: i could never use KVM because everything is way too big for me. :P
[05:36] <dehspehl> erudified: but someone will make a replacement or we can keep around legacy apps (legacy apps that just so happen to be half of the DE)
[05:36] <prince_jammys> tickbee: i see. i'm not familiar with that mounting setup.
[05:36] <dehspehl> EnvoyRising: personally I don't care much for file chooser
[05:36] <tickbee> prince_jammys: not sure if your familiar with mdadm, but it seems to me, that's there's nothing i can do using mdadm to reassemble it until it can actually SEE the /dev/hdd1 partition, and not being able to see that partition in /dev makes me think something outside of mdadm is affecting it
[05:36] <erudified> The KDE guys aren't dumb, they're getting the APIs right
[05:37] <tickbee> prince_jammys: :( well, thanks for trying at least
[05:37] <ganesh> how to get calender settings in thunderbird
[05:37] <erudified> when it's all ironed out they'll start to really pull ahead of GNOME again I think, then GNOME will put out 3.0 ;)
[05:37] <macogw> EnvoyRising: its plenty usable
[05:37] <AtomicSpark> erudified: what's wrong with gnome?
[05:37] <prince_jammys> tickbee: yeah i'm sorry.  i'll probably end up learning about that setup by watching what happens with you :)
[05:37] <erudified> It's not quite configurable enough for my taste
[05:38] <dehspehl> is it just me or are DEs going back to the idea of "lots of space to put xterms in"
[05:38] <erudified> I don't really like gnome-terminal very much either, or rhythmbox
[05:38] <EnvoyRising> macogw: not on its own. the file manager is beyond unstable
[05:38] <EnvoyRising> not to mention way too simplistic
[05:38] <AtomicSpark> erudified: didn't know gnome and kde had different terms
[05:38] <erudified> EnvoyRising, You might like http://rox.sf.net/
[05:38] <prince_jammys> uh oh desktop war
[05:38] <tickbee> prince_jammys: lol, everything was working beautifully, until *poof* one time i restarted, and now i have this odd error of a "ghost" partition that's there but not there
[05:38] <erudified> Yeah, I much prefer konsole and juk
[05:39] <EnvoyRising> prince_jammys: hardly. i certaintly don't mean it to be anyways
[05:39] <dehspehl> prince_jammys: it's worse than that
[05:39] <erudified> Nah, I mean, I don't really use KDE or GNOME
[05:39] <erudified> I use gnome-session
[05:39] <prince_jammys> lol
[05:39] <t0ny-p40> How do I find out what version of ubuntu I'm using?
[05:39] <prince_jammys> go kde
[05:39] <EnvoyRising> prince_jammys: i'm not saying "gnome sucks" or "kde sucks"
[05:39] <dehspehl> t0ny-p40: cat /etc/issue
[05:39] <erudified> Nautilus is way too slow for me... I use Rox to manage the root window and Kiba-dock for a task manager/start menu
[05:39] <dehspehl> t0ny-p40: i think...
[05:39] <t0ny-p40> thanks dehspehl
[05:39] <macogw> EnvoyRising: oh. i dont use file managers.
[05:39] <prince_jammys> EnvoyRising: i know, just kidding
[05:40] <erudified> I probably use compiz window grouping more than anyone alive lol
[05:40] <prince_jammys> macogw: console only?
[05:40] <EnvoyRising> macogw: hard core command line person yeah?
[05:40] <AtomicSpark> lol console only desktop
[05:40] <macogw> EnvoyRising: yes
[05:40] <AtomicSpark> funny
[05:40] <macogw> prince_jammys: ^
[05:40] <prince_jammys> i use them les and less myself
[05:41] <AtomicSpark> erudified: nautilus slow? are you kidding me? do you remember xp/vista?
[05:41] <erudified> AtomicSpark, try using Rox for a few minutes
[05:41] <erudified> Nautilus is dead slow ;) it blocks when generating previews, etc
[05:42] <mithro> where can I find information about creating diverts in debs?
[05:42] <EnvoyRising> macogw: maybe some day i'll be as good as you then, but i'm spoiled :| at least with file operations
[05:42] <CrazyPhil_> Hi. Do they exist a program to view powerpoint .pss and .ppt that don't require wine? (I only know PPTView and he require it..)
[05:43] <EnvoyRising> i did go through a "command line only web browsing is the sh**" phase for about a week thioguh, lol
[05:43] <AtomicSpark> CrazyPhil_: open office should beable to open them. :\ not sure.
[05:43] <EnvoyRising> CrazyPhil_: open offic or koffice
[05:43] <EnvoyRising> AtomicSpark: your'e right
[05:43] <dehspehl> erudified: i haven't found a single non trivial app that doesn't block on images and etc
[05:43] <mithro> a google for things like "apt divert" and "dpkg divert" didn't turn up much useful
[05:44] <AtomicSpark> erudified: so explain this blocking of previews?
[05:44] <erudified> dehspehl, ones that spawn separate threads and load the previews lazily allow you to do whatever you want while previews are getting generated
[05:44] <CrazyPhil_> Open office open them in "editing" mode.. :\ I am looking for a slide show mode.. maybe an open office option?
[05:44] <amenado> CrazyPhil_-> you can put the openoffice into slide mode after
[05:44] <erudified> Nautilus just freezes while it loads however many image previews are in the dir
[05:44] <Jigs> is it ok to used firestarter as my firewall?
[05:44] <dehspehl> erudified: well perhaps my box just sucks at multithreaded and it's really the time to fork
[05:45] <CrazyPhil_> amenado, ok! ty :)
[05:45] <dehspehl> erudified: err, the time it takes to fork is what I'm noticing
[05:45] <n2diy> How can I restart/reset a comm port? Every couple of weeks my external modem appears to be busy to Ubuntu. Even when I disconnect  the modem, kppp tells me it is busy, so it seems to be a software issue?
[05:45] <buffdaemon> hello shashi sir
[05:45] <AtomicSpark> erudified: huh. havent seen this problem. :P maybe i'm not stressing it enough.
[05:45] <erudified> dehspehl, it doesn't matter how long it takes to init the thread or fork or whatever
[05:45] <magick> I'm having trouble booting. Specifically, it takes 10 minutes to boot. I tried bootchart, but its before bootcharg loads as bootchart shows only 23s or so. "Starting up..." appears for 10 minutes before it actually boots. If I disable ACPI, it boots up quickly.
[05:45] <chrisb_> does anyone know how i can speed up a build  other than make -jn
[05:45] <chrisb_> ?
[05:45] <ac1d> help! i need to install 'Dynamips' but... i can only find a .bin and a source file... so how do i compile things from source?
[05:45] <erudified> AtomicSpark, download 3000+ images, stick them in a directory, browse to it, change a few, upload it, etc, it becomes obvious quickly
[05:46] <erudified> manage images with subversion and update, half the directory changes, etc
[05:46] <AtomicSpark> hmm. makes sense.
[05:46] <erudified> it does the same thing with text file previews, it's less noticable though
[05:46] <ac1d> compiling source code in Ubuntu how do i do it?
[05:46] <prince_jammys> +compile | ac1d
[05:47] <Ububegin> where is this located... System->Preferences->Appearance ... is this gutsy..but i have fiesty.. so where can i find it
[05:47] <erudified> and, uh, i feel like text file previews are pretty retarded anyways so I just turn them off =(
[05:47] <prince_jammys> !compile | ac1d
[05:47] <ubotu> ac1d: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[05:47] <n2diy> acld, download the file, and read the README docs.
[05:48] <prince_jammys> Ububegin: what are you trying to change?
[05:48] <plong0> clear
[05:48] <plong0> hello friends
[05:48] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark   sorry to call you out, but do you know how to speed up a build process?
[05:48] <plong0> oh wait, I am not in the terminal any more
[05:48] <Ububegin> prince_jammys: Gnome-themes
[05:49] <prince_jammys> Ububegin: Pref->Themes
[05:49] <plong0> I am having a problem with my boot after performing a dist-upgrade
[05:49] <AtomicSpark> chrisb_: build process of what?
[05:49] <prince_jammys> Ububegin: is it there?
[05:49] <EnvoyRising> chrisb_: speed up the build process: play a round of urban terror or some other addictive thing
[05:49] <liran> hey im trying to compile apache 2.2.*
[05:50] <Ububegin> prince_jammys: but i cant seem to ubuntu satanic there... i just followed the tutorial and installed it... :|
[05:50] <liran> and im getting this error while configuring
[05:50] <liran> /bin/bash: /root/httpd-2.2.8/srclib/pcre/configure: No such file or directory
[05:50] <liran> configure failed for srclib/pcre
[05:50] <liran> what i need to do  to fix this
[05:50] <prince_jammys> Ububegin: mm i don't know.  some downloaded themes dont seem to work
[05:50] <ac1d> ubotu: need some help compiling
[05:50] <EnvoyRising> liran, can you paste the exact command you use and the output to pastebin?
[05:50] <plong0> liran: do you have pcre in your /root/httpd-2.2.8/srclib directory?
[05:51] <P1ro> what is the default root passwod atfer the install of ubuntu ?
[05:51] <prince_jammys> Ububegin: that is the correct way to install them
[05:51] <towlie> has anyone here installed an encrypted ubuntu partition
[05:51] <ac1d> ubotu: i need help compiling this file here: http://www.ipflow.utc.fr/dynamips/dynamips-0.2.7.tar.gz
[05:51] <nickrud> !root | P1ro (there is none)
[05:51] <ubotu> P1ro (there is none): Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:51] <TurtleOfDoom> P1ro: :there is no root password
[05:51] <Ububegin> prince_jammys: :( ... so much for that $hit...
[05:51] <chrisb_> @EnvoyRising   haha...  I like it!
[05:51] <plong0> towlie, don't forget to bring a toweeeel
[05:51] <liran> plong0: yes there is a dir called pcre in srclib
[05:51] <ac1d> need help compiling this file here: http://www.ipflow.utc.fr/dynamips/dynamips-0.2.7.tar.gz
[05:51] <ac1d> please help
[05:51] <towlie> lol
[05:51] <AtomicSpark> is he talking to ubotu? lols
[05:51] <plong0> liran, it has the configure file in it?
[05:51] <prince_jammys> Ububegin: :) sorry
[05:51] <towlie> i set up ubuntu with an encrypted partition but i forgot the encryption password...
[05:52] <plong0> towlie, happens to me all the time lol
[05:52] <AtomicSpark> towlie: you're sol sorry. :)
[05:52] <liran> plong0: nop
[05:52] <plong0> liran, that is your problem then
[05:52] <towlie> sol because its encrypted ?
[05:52] <prince_jammys> ac1d: did you read the link?
[05:52] <liran> plong0: why its empty then? i downloaded the source from apache website
[05:52] <plong0> liran, what is inside of that directory?
[05:52] <liran> plong0: nothing
[05:52] <TurtleOfDoom> towlie: without the password there is nothing you can do, that's the entire point of encryption
[05:52] <Ububegin> prince_jammys: yeah nway i followed this page.... http://happylinuxthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/10/ubuntu-satanic-edition.html.... hmm, wat went wrong... though the visuals look impressive...
[05:52] <fuffalo> how do i make a wine application go in full screen?  currently my top and bottom bar are overtop of it
[05:52] <towlie> ok
[05:53] <nickrud> liran: have you looked at the docs in the build directory?
[05:53] <ac1d> prince_jammys: yeap, i did, i dont understand im still to much of a linux newb
[05:54] <AtomicSpark> man this sucks. i can't get ubuntu to work in kvm now.
[05:54] <prince_jammys> ac1d what is that package you are trying to install?
[05:54] <plong0> liran, you could maybe try downloading the pcre modules from pcre.org (make sure you get the write version!) and extracting them to that directory
[05:54] <erudified> Vista could have been pretty awesome if they'd made WinFS as cool as it sounded and incorporated Interix (basically a Unix kernel running alongside NT)
[05:54] <chrisb_> @AtomicSpark   i'm building Ubuntu from source, and I know I can use make -jn, but I'm wondering if there's another way
[05:54] <erudified> And that Monad shell, that sounded kickass too
[05:54] <liran> plong0: thanks i will try
[05:54] <plong0> liran, if you don't need pcre, you could comment that line out.... or maybe read the docs, there is probably a command line option to disable it
[05:54] <erudified> Instead they left everything that was remotely interesting out of it and added ribbons to office
[05:55] <erudified> ./configure --help|grep pcre
[05:55]  * TurtleOfDoom actually likes the ribbons
[05:55] <prince_jammys> Ububegin: this theme - is it a login theme?
[05:55]  * AtomicSpark likes the ribbons too
[05:55] <erudified> hahaha
[05:55] <ac1d> prince_jammys: im trying to get Dynamips working
[05:55]  * AtomicSpark some of them... somtimes finding something is hard
[05:55] <nickrud> ac1d: basically sudo provides user access to things that normally require a root password, on a user or command basis, as configured. In ubuntu, the first user has rights to run everything, with his/her own password
[05:55] <ac1d> prince_jammys: I can conly find source tho
[05:55] <erudified> I didn't make any ribbon value judgements ;) I just feel the other stuff was a bit more... integral
[05:55] <Ububegin> prince_jammys: login, gnome, screensaver and etc... all together...
[05:56] <liran> how can i extract tar.gz to the same directory that im on ?
[05:56] <nickrud> liran: tar xf <file>
[05:56] <plong0> liran, it's always a good idea to read - and understand - the docs when installing...  or else find a tutorial on the web (probably loads for installing apache2)
[05:56] <prince_jammys> !info dynamips | ac1d
[05:56] <ubotu> ac1d: dynamips (source: dynamips): Cisco 7200/3600/3725/3745/2691 Router Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.2.7-1 (gutsy), package size 316 kB, installed size 896 kB
[05:56] <TurtleOfDoom> liran: tar -xzf filename
[05:56] <erudified> tar xzf <file>
[05:56] <prince_jammys> ac1d: that?
[05:56] <n2diy> liran, are you in Nautilus?
[05:56]  * AtomicSpark wants ribbons in open office
[05:57] <ac1d> prince_jammys: duno, what does that do? sorry, really really big linux newb here
[05:57] <ac1d> ubotu: yes!
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <ac1d> ubotu: thats whay i need
[05:57] <plong0> I was wondering if anyone could help me... having a bit of a weird problem after dist-upgrade
[05:57] <prince_jammys> ac1d: hey
[05:57] <nickrud> ac1d: ubotu is a bot :)
[05:57] <prince_jammys> ac1d:  ubotu is bot :)
[05:57] <erudified> What version of Gnome is in Hardy?
[05:57] <ac1d> prince_jammys: dam it, i just worked that out :p
[05:57] <prince_jammys> jinx
[05:57] <ac1d> prince_jammys: lol
[05:57] <Newbuntu2> hello all
[05:58] <TurtleOfDoom> !hi | Newbuntu2
[05:58] <ubotu> Newbuntu2: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:58] <prince_jammys> ok ac1d: you can get it from apt-- you dont need to compile it yourself
[05:58] <prince_jammys> ac1d: do you know how to do that?
[05:58] <EnvoyRising> grrr! i love ruby, but there seems to be no community outside of rails.. its all python :(
[05:58] <Newbuntu2> I'm moving my server from gentoo to ubuntu, and I want to add my RAID 5 array. can anyone help me so I don't lose all my information?
[05:58] <nickrud> !info libgnomeui-0 hardy
[05:58] <liran> i meant how i extract the files from the tar.gz to be in the same directory that im on and not create a new dir
[05:58] <ubotu> libgnomeui-0 (source: libgnomeui): The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interface) - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.21.91-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 240 kB, installed size 736 kB
[05:58] <ac1d> prince_jammys let me guess... sudo apt-get dynamipcs?
[05:58] <ac1d> without the c
[05:58] <plong0> my /dev/hda1 drive doesn't show up after I upgraded...  it boots grub off it, but then ends up in my ubuntustudio install on sdb1 and I have no way to get to hda1
[05:58] <nickrud> erudified: 2.21.91
[05:59] <prince_jammys> ac1d: sudo apt-get install dyn.....
[05:59] <erudified> thanks!
[05:59] <prince_jammys> ac1d like that
[05:59] <erudified> I was thinking it'd have 2.6
[05:59] <EnvoyRising> ac1d: when in doubt, apt it out
[05:59] <n2diy> EnvoyRising: have you checked out #ruby-lang?
[05:59] <AtomicSpark> EnvoyRising: I just just PHP. I am a simple guy. :P
[05:59] <erudified> 2.22 is slated for inclusion I take it?
[05:59] <nickrud> erudified: that's gtk
[05:59] <sleepwalk> hey could ANYONE please tell me the best way to rebuild my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file???  My current video settings are correct, but when I reboot I loose the setup...I also noticed some minor errors in the xorg.conf file.  ANY ideas???
[05:59] <TurtleOfDoom> liran: you could just move the file after you extract it
[05:59] <EnvoyRising> n2diy: no, was in ruby. i'll give it a shot, thanks!
[05:59] <prince_jammys> ac1d: and if doesnt work, it's because you need to enable "multiverse" in System->Admin->Software sources
[05:59] <nickrud> !info libgtk2.0-0 hardy | erudified
[05:59] <ubotu> erudified: libgtk2.0-0 (source: gtk+2.0): The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.8-1 (hardy), package size 2014 kB, installed size 4952 kB
[05:59] <ac1d> prince_jammys: okay, done... know where does it install to on a linux machine?
[05:59] <n2diy> EnvoyRising: GL
[06:00] <towlie> hey guys
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ac1d somewhere inside /usr/share , probably
[06:00] <plong0> hey towlie
[06:00] <erudified> http://www.gnome.org/start/2.6/ they are confusing =(
[06:00] <towlie> who told me that u was sol
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ac1d why?
[06:00] <towlie> i
[06:00] <ac1d> prince_jammys: see if it works
[06:00] <nickrud> erudified: ah, that's really really old :)
[06:00] <prince_jammys> ac1d: try installing it now
[06:00] <erudified> ahh, 2.22 is newer than 2.6? hehe
[06:00] <erudified> 2.06 I guess
[06:01] <nickrud> erudified: read that way, yes
[06:01] <towlie> plong0,  were you the one who said I was sol cause i forgot my password ?
[06:01] <ac1d> prince_jammys: i did the apt-get but now how do i get into it?
[06:01] <plong0> towlie, no, I was the one who reminded you to bring a towel
[06:01] <Newbuntu2> help with starting my RAID array, anyone?
[06:01] <own1x> is there a bash command that will display your current kernal build?
[06:01] <nickrud> own1x: uname -a
[06:01] <starked> Would anyone here know how to get SDL working with Anjuta?
[06:01] <erudified> nickrud, can you comment on fglrx/xgl? Last I tried hardy, it seemed to use aiglx and maybe the xrender drawing backend? It was much much slower than xgl/fglrx on 7.10
[06:01] <towlie> lol
[06:01] <prince_jammys> ac1d: check to see if you have something new inside your menus
[06:01] <towlie> im back in ubuntu
[06:01] <own1x> thanks
[06:01] <n2diy> nickrud: uname -a
[06:01] <nickrud> erudified: not in hardy, no
[06:01] <samuel> anyone know why a unionfs directory cannot be exported with nfs??? whats the problem with this?
[06:02] <erudified> xgl wouldn't work at all (some gtk sudo error)
[06:02] <nickrud> n2diy: lol
[06:02] <prince_jammys> ac1d: probably in "internet"
[06:02] <EnvoyRising> jeez, it took me forever to remember GL was not just openGL but also good luck
[06:02] <ac1d> prince_jammys: nope
[06:02] <prince_jammys> does gnome use internet or networking in the menus?
[06:02] <prince_jammys> menu names
[06:02] <nickrud> erudified: but I did find that the aiglx in the fglrx from ati sucked
[06:03] <n2diy> nickrud: wrong nick, right answer, :)
[06:03] <prince_jammys> ac1d: mmm
[06:03] <ac1d> prince_jammys: when  i ran the apt-get it says 'dynamips is already the newest version.'
[06:03] <erudified> Yeah, very disappointing
[06:03] <prince_jammys> ac1d: ah you had it installed already
[06:03] <nickrud> n2diy: I read my post three times, looking for the error.
[06:03] <prince_jammys> try typing --> dynamips
[06:04] <n2diy> nickrud: things move fast here.
[06:04] <ac1d> prince_jammys: did that
[06:04] <prince_jammys> ac1d: did anything happen?
[06:04] <EnvoyRising> ok, so now i have a question, what would case me to get automatically logged out every few hours or so?
[06:04] <ac1d> prince_jammys: nup, but im trying a 'remove' then 'install' it again
[06:04] <prince_jammys> ac1d i dont think you need to
[06:05] <alanna> Whenever I attempt to start a song in amarok or kaffeine, it just freezes. I downloaded the newest version of ALSA, still nothin
[06:05] <starked> Would anyone here know how to get SDL working with Anjuta?
[06:05] <MagoonD> I am having problems mounting some usb flash drives in gutsy, specifically ones with fat or fat32 but other drives that are the same filesystem work can someone help me?
[06:05] <nickrud> ac1d: if you're removing for a reinstall, do a 'complete removal' in synaptic, or sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> (that gets configuration files as well)
[06:05] <prince_jammys> nickrud: do you know anything about that package?
[06:06] <nickrud> prince_jammys: enough to know it's about cisco :)
[06:06] <Jigs> hello there, how to change the dual boot menu? i wanna make my xp as the primary and make my ubuntu as my secondary.. and how to change the time delay?
[06:06] <exst_mhua> alanna, check if the song is not corrupted, or try other working songs to see if the player is not broken
[06:06] <prince_jammys> nickrud: he installed it, doesnt appear in the menus, wants to access it
[06:06] <ac1d> prince_jammys: still not working :(
[06:06] <achandrashekar> hello...i installed an ldap server on ubuntu...and after reboot...it locks up on boot and drops to a terminal login..can someone aid?
[06:06] <AtomicSpark> nickrud: know how to remove the dependencies if the program installed added them (not being used by another)?
[06:06] <ac1d> prince_jammys: no idea where it is
[06:06] <ogre> i am trying to compile ettercap because the repos have a stripped down version. i tried "make" but am getting this error make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.    I am in correct directory with makefile in there
[06:06] <nickrud> prince_jammys: any docs probably would be in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[06:07] <alanna> exst_mhua: nope, the songs are working and I tried other songs. Could it be because I don't have an mp3 decoder?
[06:07] <EnvoyRising> ogre, you have to ./configure first. besides that, you should make sure you're in the correct directory
[06:07] <nickrud> AtomicSpark: if they aren't used by anything else,  sudo apt-get autoremove should do it
[06:07] <exst_mhua> alanna, that's possible
[06:07] <n2diy> ogre: try ./make
[06:07] <ogre> EnvoyRising:  already did ./configure
[06:07] <prince_jammys> ac1d: yes, read what nickrud said::: also try typing dyn(and then the tab key to see if it autocompletes)
[06:07] <CarlFK> i installed u-server, then installed ubuntustudio-video, but I have no desktop   what is the quickest way to install a desktop, (gnome is fine, just don't want all the apps, like openoffice
[06:08] <ogre> n2diy:  no luck
[06:08] <AtomicSpark> nickrud: wow thanks. i just removed 100mb worth of crap lol
[06:08] <n2diy> CarlFK: use the Alternate CD
[06:08] <EnvoyRising> ogre: and no errors
[06:08] <erudified> CarlFK, installing gnome-panel ought to get most of the desktop
[06:09] <ac1d> prince_jammys: yeap dynamips is in there
[06:09] <Newbuntu2> how do I check if my system detects my harddrives? (ie, how do I look at my IDE bus)
[06:09] <erudified> CarlFK, gnome-panel, nautilus, and maybe apt-cache search gnome-session and get any session management packages
[06:09] <n2diy> ogre: try sudo ./make?
[06:09] <ac1d> prince_jammys: got a couple of changelog.debian.gz files and suc
[06:09] <prince_jammys> ac1d: what kind of files are they?
[06:09] <nickrud> CarlFK: sudo apt-get install xorg metacity gnome-panel (yeah, gnome-panel seems a good entrypoint for gnome)
[06:09] <ogre> EnvoyRising:  that must be it. for some reason its saying i need libpcap but I already have it
[06:09] <ac1d> prince_jammys: readme.debian
[06:09] <mkquist> Jigs: get ur answer yet?
[06:09] <ogre> n2diy: its saying no such file or dir
[06:09] <prince_jammys> ac1d: try ::: man dynamips (or whatever the exact name is)
[06:10] <ac1d> prince_jammys: okay
[06:10] <ac1d> i g2g but i shall try again after tafe
[06:10] <nickrud> ac1d: readme.debian is always a good start
[06:10] <ac1d> prince_jammys: thanks tho
[06:10] <exst_mhua> alanna, this might help w/ your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=520036
[06:10] <ac1d> prince_jammys: i shall try
[06:10] <Jigs> not yet sir by am am reading now in the forum looking for answer
[06:10] <n2diy> ogre: did you install build-dev?
[06:11] <nickrud> ogre: try installing libpcap-dev
[06:11] <CarlFK> thnaks guys
[06:11] <erudified> build-essential ?
[06:11] <livefoniks> Judy Garland?
[06:11] <mkquist> Jigs: just edit your menu.lst in /boot/grub
[06:11] <EnvoyRising> ogre: you'll need the libpcap-dev package
[06:11] <Owner_> is there any command that return shell Name that we are currently work (just return the shell name nothing else)
[06:11] <mkquist> Jigs: and its better to direct you answer at the person u are talking to.
[06:11] <Jigs> ok ty
[06:12] <orph_> hi, my ubuntu install is completely hosed, and the install CD requires a reformat.  Is this the place to get help?
[06:12] <ogre> n2diy: ahh its libpcap-dev that im missing. im almost positive
[06:12] <nickrud> Owner_: what do you mean by the shell name? like bash?
[06:12] <Jigs> sorry dont have an idea... how to make it yellow :D
[06:12] <prince_jammys> ac1d check this::::  http://7200emu.hacki.at/viewtopic.php?p=18350&sid=1887977156ddb87a151ed819f6826d48
[06:12] <n2diy> ogre: GL
[06:12] <Owner_> nickrud yes
[06:12] <EnvoyRising> ruby-lang was scary
[06:12] <mkquist> Jigs: just start typing there nic and hit tab should autocomplete their name for u
[06:12] <nickrud> Owner:  env | grep SHELL
[06:12] <EnvoyRising> they're so...unfriendly
[06:12] <Jigs> mkquist: ok thats the secret thnx
[06:13] <EnvoyRising> i guess they all can't be ubuntu-like communities **sigh**
[06:13] <mkquist> Jigs: np... =)
[06:13] <nickrud> sounds like they're debian types
[06:13] <Owner_> ok thx
[06:13] <mkquist> orph_: this would be that place
[06:13] <plong0> what's wrong with debian, nickrud?
[06:13] <erudified> greycat is wrong with #debian lol
[06:13] <erudified> I've been flaming that guy since 96
[06:13] <nickrud> plong0: not debian, #debian. Should have been specific
[06:13] <Jigs> mkquist: sir another question... is grub had trouble with NTFS format in dual boot system?
[06:13] <plong0> ohh
[06:13] <plong0> lol
[06:14] <mkquist> uh oh... flame war?
[06:14] <plong0> I've never been
[06:14] <erudified> hahaha
[06:14] <erudified> nah he's a good guy
[06:14] <plong0> should I?
[06:14] <erudified> I just like to screw with him
[06:14] <Jigs> mkquist: got an error 18 last yesterday
[06:14] <Jigs> mkquist: yesterday i mean
[06:14] <plong0> Jigs, that means she was too young
[06:14] <mkquist> Jigs: im not sure what you mean 'is grub had trouble with NTFS format in dual boot system?'... not usually, linux will usually see the other install, but sometimes it does need help... is that what you mean?
[06:15] <achandrashekar> ldap install issue...part 2...after rebooting the master ldap server, the system hangs at the following "Starting kernel log daemon"
[06:15] <achandrashekar>  can someone help?
[06:15] <EnvoyRising> ooh ooh flame war! whats the topic this time?
[06:15] <mkquist> Jigs: if it booted before, then it should still boot.
[06:15] <mkquist> Jigs: has it booted windows before for you?
[06:15] <plong0> EnvoyRising, sex kittens who forget to wear mittens
[06:16] <Jigs> mkquist: yes, but after i installed xubuntu then restart then updated then start, problem came out... grub error 18
[06:16] <anrky> can i boot ubuntu off a cd?
[06:16] <orph_> mkquist: okay, so i don't want ot reformat and my dependencies are totally messed up.  glib seeems to have missing symbols, gconftool-2 fails, half the .debs are removed and the other half failed to install or remove
[06:16] <EnvoyRising> plong0: oh. i know nothing of the mitten-less kitten variety. i'll sit thisone out
[06:16] <plong0> anrky, yes
[06:16] <anrky> or does it have to be installed?
[06:16] <mkquist> plong0: lol, no help, but funny =p
[06:16] <nickrud> anrky: yes
[06:16] <n2diy> anrky: yes
[06:16] <mkquist> orph_: what did you do?
[06:16] <nickrud> anrky: releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 , get the desktop cd
[06:17] <orph_> mkquist: tried to update to gutsy from a system i've been updating since breezy
[06:17] <KiD_ChAoS> has anyone got Kontact to work with exchange? evolution can why Kontact?
[06:17] <anrky> ok, so i just download it, burn it on cd, and i can boot from it, without installing it or anything
[06:17] <MagoonD> I cannot mount a fat32 usb hard drive it says invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume does any1 know how to fix this?
[06:17] <plong0> anrky: yes
[06:17] <orph_> mkquist: it was a functioning feisty before the mess
[06:17] <anrky> cool...thanks!
[06:17] <nickrud> anrky: it will boot on most systems. Ones with really recent video cards might not run, or other recent hardware
[06:17] <plong0> anrky:  there will be a desktop icon to install it if you want to
[06:17] <KiD_ChAoS> has anyone got Kontact to work with exchange? evolution can why Kontact?
[06:18] <anrky> i rather just boot from d
[06:18] <n2diy> KiD_ChAoS: I don't use either of them, try korganizer?
[06:18] <anrky> cd*
[06:18] <mkquist> orph_: wow thats a load, I'd say at this point it would probably be quicker to just back up ur stuff and install gutsy.  I mean you could probably fix it, but it would probably take longer to sort it out.
[06:18] <nickrud> KiD_ChAoS: possibly because no one's written a plugin for kontact?
[06:18] <plong0> anrky: I made a usb thumbdrive boot ubuntu.  it was cool.
[06:18] <anrky> atleast till i'm really comfortable with it
[06:18] <anrky> a thumbdrive?
[06:18] <orph_> mkquist: there's no --ignore-depends-and-reinstall-the-world option to dpkg? :-)
[06:19] <anrky> do you need something special for that?
[06:19] <KiD_ChAoS> nickrud, write me a plugin real quick...
[06:19] <plong0> anrky: it has been my experience you'll never get really comfortable with it till you "take the plunge" so to speak and load it full time
[06:19] <nickrud> KiD_ChAoS: a plugin
[06:19] <MagoonD> anyone I know its now hard to do i just need to find out how to mount the drive?
[06:19] <KiD_ChAoS> lol
[06:19] <plong0> yeah it took a bit of work to get going... there was a tutorial.  I'd suggest just go for the standard CD/DVD edition for now.
[06:19] <anrky> i know what you mean, but i just wanna give it a test drive first, know what i mean?
[06:19] <plong0> yeah
[06:20] <EnvoyRising> MagoonD: sudo mount <partition> <mount point>
[06:20] <plong0> have you ever used linux before?
[06:20] <plong0> or a mac?
[06:20] <anrky> i've used unix
[06:20] <anrky> did webhosting
[06:20] <anrky> worked with unix servers
[06:20] <plong0> oh k... so you know your way around the terminal a bit then?
[06:20] <Jigs> mkquist: ryt now am using ubuntu in this machine... in my other machine, am trying to install ubuntu but no luck it always stop in 57% when installing.. so i planned to install it with xubuntu.. and it was successfully.. xp and xubuntu installed nicely, but after xubuntu updated, grub 18 error came out to that machine
[06:20] <nickrud> MagoonD: did you ever have that drive mounting automatically?
[06:20] <anrky> yea
[06:20] <MagoonD> EnvoyRising, how do I find out the partion and mount point
[06:20] <ogre> EnvoyRising:  heres is the output for ./configure http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56587/
[06:20] <plong0> that's definitely a big head start on most people
[06:21] <anrky> i bet...lol
[06:21] <plong0> you might find ubuntu coddles you a bit :P
[06:21] <MagoonD> nickrud, no I did not but in win xp it works fine
[06:21] <MagoonD> its formatted as fat32
[06:21] <EnvoyRising> MagoonD:  fdisk -l
[06:21] <nickrud> MagoonD: well, that leaves out the idea I had about why it didn't automount
[06:21] <anrky> yea i've heard alot of good things about ubuntu
[06:21] <EnvoyRising> as for mount point, thats for you to decide. you may have to make it actually
[06:21] <anrky> really looking forward to giving it a shot
[06:21] <EnvoyRising> mkdir /mount/<any name you want>
[06:21] <MagoonD> ok thanks let me try that
[06:21] <sleepwalk> hey could ANYONE please tell me the best way to rebuild my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file???  My current video settings are correct, but when I reboot I loose the setup...I also noticed some minor errors in the xorg.conf file.  ANY ideas??? xorg.conf file at: http://pastebin.com/m7f70ba81
[06:22] <plong0> yeah, ubuntu is sweet.
[06:22] <nickrud> EnvoyRising: /media is the normal place in ubuntu (puts an icon on the desktop)
[06:22] <Owner_> how set environment variables permanently in BASH ?
[06:22] <orph_> anrky: why not just boot the live cd? it'll let you play with the desktop, run apps and firefox to browse the web, etc
[06:22] <mkquist> Jigs: did it boot after the update to linux?
[06:22] <erudified> I think Ubuntu has image problems ;) It should look cooler!
[06:22] <Jigs> mkquist: yes sir
[06:22] <chrisb_> @sleepwalk  what happens to the setup?
[06:22] <plong0> I want my Ubuntu to look like sex
[06:22] <mkquist> Jigs: if it did, then grub is probably confused about where windows is...
[06:22] <nickrud> Owner: add the definition to ~/.bashrc
[06:22] <Jigs> mkquist: aw
[06:22] <n2diy> Owner: ~/.bashrc?
[06:22] <erudified> Yes, a default ubuntu installation should be capable of getting your average nerd laid
[06:23] <Owner> nickrud I wanna do that for all users not just for a specific user how can I do that?
[06:23] <anrky> orph_: what do you mean?
[06:23] <Jigs> mkquist: anyway... i formatted it again, i changed it fat32
[06:23] <plong0> erudified, anytime I mention linux to girls they seem to get a bit awkward
[06:23] <mkquist> Jigs: changed what?
[06:23] <EnvoyRising> nickrud: grr.. damned gentoo/other linux habits
[06:23] <chrisb_> sleepwalk:    are your settings going back to what they were, or are they just failing?
[06:23] <nickrud> Owner: add it to /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:23] <erudified> personal qualities such as dedication, willingness to commit, parenting abilities, etc, should be conveyed by the default Ubuntu theme
[06:23] <Jigs> mkquist: i changed it to fat32
[06:23] <orph_> anrky: if you download and burn the ubuntu install CD, then boot it, you'll get a fully functional Ubuntu desktop you can play with without installing anything
[06:23] <Owner> alright thnk
[06:23] <mkquist> Jigs: you didnt need to reformat ur windows drive... =\
[06:23] <lynxx> alright just installed xbuntu and updated it...but what do i need to play the dvix codec...
[06:24] <EnvoyRising> ogre: you need libnet-dev..let me look for the exact name real quick
[06:24] <nickrud> EnvoyRising: 99.44% of what you know transfers, it's always the little stuff that trips :)
[06:24] <Jigs> mkquist: thats sad i already did...
[06:24] <plong0> erudified, I'd prefer if my default Ubuntu theme was a naked lady
[06:24] <orph_> anrky: if you like it, you can click the "Install" link on the desktop and it'll run you through the process of getting it on your hard drive
[06:24] <Darkmystere> OMG i keep getting readonly file system!
[06:24] <Darkmystere> Could not set mode 0700 on private per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2_private/': Read-only file system
[06:24] <Darkmystere> or
[06:24] <ste-foy> Thank you for your help Jigs
[06:24] <erudified> plong0, but not just any naked lady, a marilyn monroe type, a real classic beauty, not showing it all, just enough to get the job done
[06:24] <Jigs> mkquist: anyway... if thats happens again, what sould i do?
[06:24] <Darkmystere>  man nano
[06:24] <Darkmystere> man: can't create a temporary filename: Read-only file system
[06:24] <anrky> orph_: right thats my plan, i want to run it off cd first, and if i like it i'll install it all the way alter
[06:25] <anrky> later*
[06:25] <Jigs> mkquist: *should
[06:25] <mkquist> Jigs: well, now your best bet is to reinstall windows, then reinstall grub, in that order, let windows take over (it will on install), but then reinstalling grub will let you boot both
[06:25] <plong0> erudified, of course... maybe Tux peaking out mischieviously from under her skirt
[06:25] <Darkmystere> Well i was trying to boot windows partion...
[06:25] <Darkmystere> from a VM
[06:25] <orph_> anrky: good thing people have been working on making that exact desire work :)
[06:25] <mkquist> Jigs: prob just edit your menu.list in /boot/grub, probably would have fixed it...
[06:25] <Indiadev_Techie> Darkmystere: wht happend ???
[06:25] <MagoonD> EnvoyRising, nickrud that worked when i mounted it using sudo
[06:25] <Darkmystere> Idk...
[06:25] <Indiadev_Techie> Darkmystere: can u repeat ur question ???
[06:25] <plong0> erudified, Tux holding a pear of Ubuntu panties in his beak
[06:25] <EnvoyRising> the person that was trying to ./configure.. the package you need to install is c alled libnet6-1.3-0-dev
[06:25] <Darkmystere> Even Ktorrents says readonly file system.......
[06:25] <plong0> wait... pair, not pear
[06:25] <erudified> I've been thinking of packaging up my peculiar Rox/Murrine/Firefox 3.0b3/Compiz/Kibadock setup
[06:26] <mkquist> Jigs: off to go reinstall windows now, would be my guess on what u should do
[06:26] <Darkmystere> Everything i do that has to right something to file system it comes back saying readonly file system
[06:26] <Darkmystere> How can i fix this?
[06:26] <erudified> G-Flat SVG Icons with some OSX style icons in the mix
[06:26] <plong0> pears are fruits... but not my preferred eating selection
[06:26] <Jigs> mkquist: ok ok thank you man
[06:26] <erudified> It's hot.
[06:26] <nickrud> erudified:  the erudite edition?
[06:26] <EnvoyRising> Darkmystere: you'll have to put sudo before your commands then
[06:26] <plong0> mkquist: you'll be installing windows for hooours
[06:26] <mkquist> Jigs: check back
[06:26] <anrky> Quit IRC:/quit Leaving
[06:26] <Jigs> mkquist: thank you very much
[06:26] <erudified> Sure ;) hehe
[06:26] <Darkmystere> i tried that...
[06:26] <Indiadev_Techie> Indiadev_Techie: whats the filesystem of that partition...
[06:26] <mkquist> plong0: oh come on, it's not that bad...
[06:26] <anrky> Quit IRC
[06:26] <Darkmystere> when i do sudo nautilus it gives me:Could not set mode 0700 on private per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2_private/': Read-only file system
[06:26] <mkquist> Jigs: g/l and def check back before u do that again =p
[06:27] <Darkmystere> A couple mins ago it wasnt read only :/
[06:27] <EnvoyRising> Darkmystere: altternatively, if its something you have to write to frequently, change permissions of that particcular folder by chmoding it
[06:27] <plong0> mkquist: kind of it is... too much rebooting when you start installing patches and junk
[06:27] <n2diy> How can I restart/reset a comm port? Every couple of weeks my external modem appears to be busy to Ubuntu. Even when I disconnect  the modem, kppp tells me it is busy, so it seems to be a software issue?
[06:27] <tigran> hey, how come etherwake nor wakeonlan work, is it a bug?
[06:27] <plong0> n2diy: you have a comm port modem?
[06:27] <nickrud> Darkmystere: try sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/<device>
[06:27] <feysalus> hello!
[06:27] <^CatMan^> i am having problems with getting kcron to actually run a program like it is suppossed to... how do i make it work?
[06:27] <Darkmystere> EnvoyRising: Err....It just started doing this
[06:27] <plong0> n2diy: does it go beep-beep-boop
[06:28] <n2diy> plong0: yes I do. Yes it does.
[06:28] <MagoonD> how do I list all my drives fdisk -l only lists the external ones connected?
[06:28] <EnvoyRising> oh, well like nickrud said try remounting
[06:28] <feysalus> how do I create a link to 'Filesystem' in the 'Places' menu, when I drag the shortcut from that computer folder it creates a link in the taskbar
[06:28] <Darkmystere> brb
[06:28] <n2diy> MagoonD: lshw?
[06:28] <mkquist> plong0: necessary evils im afraid
[06:28] <ogre> EnvoyRising: libnet6-1.3-0-dev said it couldnt find package
[06:28] <plong0> n2diy: oh no.  I think it might be broken then.  If it was working, it'd be going boop-beep-beep
[06:28] <ubuntu> does any1 here use kino?
[06:28] <erudified> Ubuntu Bug #1 is great ;)
[06:28] <Owner> I have an ubuntu box , and I have a dedicated Server which is freebsd , in my freebsd for all useres i specified a specifi value for a env. variables. when I use this command "rsh microsoft8.com echo $PVM_ROOT" on my ubuntu it works and ask me for enter password and after the password it give me empty string value :( so whats wrong with this?
[06:28] <mkquist> plong0: oh well, done now...
[06:29] <erudified> More open source projects should be that ambitious
[06:29] <EnvoyRising> ogre: then open up your synaptic and search for libnet
[06:29] <plong0> mkquist: you're right, windows is evil
[06:29] <EnvoyRising> then find a package that ends in -dev and install that
[06:29] <MagoonD> n2diy, lshw lists all the hardware
[06:29] <EnvoyRising> then retry your ./configure
[06:29] <n2diy> plong0: it works after a shutdown, but not a restart. And I have two of them, and they both behave the same.
[06:29] <^CatMan^> i am having problems with getting kcron to actually run a program like it is suppossed to... how do i make it work?
[06:29] <Javid> ubuntu bug #1?
[06:29] <plong0> n2diy: boop-beep-beep :)
[06:29] <erudified> haha yeah
[06:30] <n2diy> MagoonD: sorry, brain cramp, ifconfig?
[06:30] <erudified> "Microsoft has a majority market share"
[06:30] <erudified> =)
[06:30] <Javid> hehe
[06:30] <plong0> and are therefore evil
[06:30] <nickrud> ^CatMan^: you'll probably get better kde help in #kubuntu
[06:30] <Owner> I have an ubuntu box , and I have a dedicated Server which is freebsd , in my freebsd for all useres i specified a specifi value for a env. variables. when I use this command "rsh microsoft8.com echo $PVM_ROOT" on my ubuntu it works and ask me for enter password and after the password it give me empty string value :( so whats wrong with this?
[06:30] <MagoonD> lol n2diy ifconfig gives ipconfig
[06:30] <Javid> "addressed in 12.04 patch"
[06:30] <^CatMan^> nobody there knows how either?
[06:30] <nickrud> !bug 1
[06:30] <MagoonD> n2diy, i need to know how to list out my hard drives and their set partition
[06:30] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[06:30] <^CatMan^> been there, done that
[06:30] <plong0> ^CatMan^: are you really a cat?
[06:31] <^CatMan^> plong0: no
[06:31] <joanki> if i am logging on to a remote server through ssh, how do i move files from my computer ot the shell i am logged in to remotely?
[06:31] <Indiadev_Techie> erudified: yes it does have majority of market shares...but that doesnt mean it will be for ever...linux (ubuntu n other linux os) r gaining popularity....
[06:31] <plong0> ^CatMan^: oh. like cats.  they are furry and nice.
[06:32] <Cromag> !scp
[06:32] <^CatMan^> plong0: fogive me if i'm not overly talkative right now, i'm tired and trying to set my computer up as an alarm clock and it isn't working right
[06:32] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[06:32] <ogre> EnvoyRising:  cool deal. I got it installed. thanks a bunch
[06:32] <nickrud> joanki: I use a separate terminal, scp file user@remote:/path/to/location
[06:32] <Indiadev_Techie> MagoonD: use gnome partiton manager (gpart)...
[06:32] <tigran> I do  sudo etherwake -b 192.168.100.255 for a broadcast, but it gives me an error, whats the correct way to use it?
[06:32] <Cromag> joanki: theres your answer :)
[06:32] <plong0> ^CatMan^: oh. sorry ^CatMan^.  Did you write the program?
[06:32] <^CatMan^> plong0: yeah, i love cats too. i have one that thinks he's a dog
[06:33] <joanki> nickrud, i dunno what that means...
[06:33] <vega-> I need to change the MAC address of my network card (integrated) on every boot, this probably needs to be done after nic drivers are loaded but before networking is setup. What would be the correct place/way to do this?
[06:33] <EnvoyRising> joanki: just to add the fire, "microsoft has the largest market share " is pretty ambiguous. what market? who owns the web server market? linux. embedded stystems market? linux
[06:33] <EnvoyRising> ogre: no prob
[06:33] <Acoustyk> i downloaded a theme package for emerald and none of the themes are changing the two bars or the scroll bar.  How do I fix this?
[06:33] <joanki> so open another window within the new shell or within my computer's shell?
[06:33] <MagoonD> Indiadev_Techie, ok thx if i had two hard drives how would I switch to the other one, in windows dos I would do cd F: to switch to the other drive?
[06:33] <nickrud> joanki: you use a different session than your ssh session. Like, shift-ctl-t in gnome-terminal, and scp from there
[06:33] <^CatMan^> plong0: no, i'm just tryin to get kde to run kaffeine with a playlist at 7 am tomorrow morning
[06:34] <Indiadev_Techie> EnvoyRising: i agree wid u bro...
[06:34] <joanki> nickrud, ty
[06:34] <bthesorceror> hello all
[06:34] <^CatMan^> i've tried both "at" and "kcron" and neither one is workin right
[06:34] <plong0> ^CatMan^: oh... and it's not working?
[06:34] <feysalus> sorry for repeating -> how do I create a link to 'Filesystem' in the 'Places' menu, when I drag the shortcut from that computer folder it creates a link in the taskbar
[06:34] <plong0> oh a cron job
[06:34] <Indiadev_Techie>  MagoonD: ubuntu 's partiton ???
[06:34] <n2diy> plong0: Thanks for the help.
[06:34] <ubuntu> does any1 here use kino??
[06:34] <n2diy> test
[06:34] <MagoonD> Indiadev_Techie, yes
[06:34] <n2diy> test2
[06:35] <plong0> n2diy: np man
[06:35] <n2diy> lost my comms for two minutes, MVA took out a power pole, and reset my modem connection, sorrry.
[06:35] <Indiadev_Techie> MagoonD: u cant access ubuntu partition frm windows....though there r tools/drivers to do soo...
[06:35] <feysalus> damn, sorry I googled and found it
[06:35] <Acoustyk>  i downloaded a theme package for emerald and none of the themes are changing the two bars or the scroll bar.  How do I fix this?
[06:35] <MrObvious> !language | feysalus
[06:35] <ubotu> feysalus: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:35] <^CatMan^> ubuntu sorry, i don't even know what that program is supposed to do :D
[06:35] <MagoonD> Indiadev_Techie, no when I am in ubuntu and in terminal how do I access another partition? switch over to it so I can lists its contents by doing ls
[06:36] <MrObvious> MagoonD: cd /media/pathtootherpartition
[06:36] <MrObvious> MagoonD: Do a ls /media to see which folders are in there.
[06:36] <KevinVN> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[06:36] <KevinVN> how to fix ?
[06:36] <plong0> MagoonD, you need to mount it first
[06:36] <feysalus> sorry MrObvious
[06:36] <MrObvious> KevinVN: For what?
[06:36] <derwiki> How can I downgrade from Hardy Alpha 4 to Gutsy?
[06:36] <MrObvious> feysalus: It's ok.
[06:36] <MagoonD> MrObvious, thx and how do I list all the media thats available
[06:36] <nickrud> derwiki: reinstall
[06:36] <^CatMan^> plong0: i've tried using kcron to get it to work, with little success... it works when i manually tell it to run the playlist, but not when it is scheduled
[06:37] <KevinVN> for compiz & effect
[06:37] <Dezine> Hi, how do I install fonts?
[06:37] <MagoonD> MrObvious, is it fdisk -l ?
[06:37] <^CatMan^> plong0: am i doing something wrong?
[06:37] <sleepwalk> Dezine:  Browse synaptic package manager
[06:37] <MrObvious> MagoonD: It might be I forget.
[06:37] <KevinVN> I had install driver NVIDIA but can't enable effect, compiz too
[06:37] <n2diy> MagoonD: sorry, I don't play with my hard drive.
[06:37] <MagoonD> plong0, i already got it to mount how do I unmount it whats the command for that?
[06:37] <derwiki> nickrud: It's a VM image... I was hoping to downgrade it. Is that possible?
[06:37] <nickrud> Dezine: copy the ttf file to /usr/share/fonts/truetype , or create ~/.fonts and put it there
[06:37] <MagoonD> n2diy, np
[06:37] <plong0> ^CatMan^: oh there's no like command line argument to starting playing a certain playlist?
[06:37] <MrObvious> KevinVN: Trying to compile it or something?
[06:37] <^CatMan^> derwiki: umount
[06:37] <sleepwalk> Dezine: Do a search for "font".  If you want fonts for specific programs, try searching terms that would match that program
[06:38] <plong0> MagoonD: sudo umount /yourmountpath
[06:38] <tigran> I can turn on my second pc using a Windows utility for wake-on-lan, but if I use etherwake or wakeonlan from my linux pc, it doesn't turn the other pc on, what can I do?
[06:38] <nickrud> derwiki: downgrades are not supported under debian/ubuntu.
[06:38] <Dezine> sleepwalk, I have a font I downloaded from a site.
[06:38] <KevinVN> MrObvious: install nvidia-glx-new ?
[06:38] <MagoonD> plong0, thx
[06:38] <alanna> I'm trying to install vbox at the moment and not having much luck because of dependencies. I need to get libxalan110 but sudo apt-get install libxalan110 depends on libxerces 27 which depends on libxalan110 apparently :S
[06:38] <plong0> MagoonD: np
[06:38] <Dezine> but thanks
[06:38] <MrObvious> KevinVN: Ubuntu comes with compiz so you shouldn't need to compile it. :\
[06:38] <nickrud> Dezine: read back, I told you how
[06:38] <^CatMan^> the command for it is /usr/bin/kaffeine --play /home/john/docs/playlists/wake\ up.m3u
[06:38] <Darkmystere> Now i cant even get into Ubuntu
[06:38] <Acoustyk> emerald is not theming my top/bottom bars or scroll bar.  How do I fix this?
[06:38] <plong0> nickrud: downgrades are suggested by microsoft for their new Windows Vista operating system.
[06:38] <Darkmystere> That SUCKS! i cant get into windows nor ubuntu... im in backtrack..
[06:38] <Dezine> I saw that, thanks nickrud
[06:39] <MrObvious> Darkmystere: Why?
[06:39] <KevinVN> so it problem with driver graphic ?
[06:39] <MrObvious> KevinVN: Probably some package not installed.
[06:39] <^CatMan^> plong0: and that works when i manually tell it to, but not when it is set for a specific time
[06:39] <PaloAlto> why doesnt chmod agroup=-rwx bla/ work ?
[06:39] <Darkmystere> Mrobvious, Before i rebooted it was complaning about readonly filesystem so i tried rebooting but it keeps mouting as readonly and the fsck isnt working...nothing is..
[06:39] <^CatMan^> plong0: lmao @ ms downgrades!
[06:40] <MrObvious> Whoa Darkmystere .
[06:40] <plong0> haha they have commercials
[06:40] <^CatMan^> i've seen those :)
[06:40] <PaloAlto> im trying to change permissions to a folder for a certain group
[06:40] <^CatMan^> but those are mac commercials :D
[06:40] <Dezine> Ok, I need the font to work in GIMP. I made the fonts folder and moved it there how to I get GIMP to recognize it.
[06:40] <KevinVN> MrObvious: I can enable effect with file install.run downloaded in NVIDIA.COM. How to remove & reinstall it ?
[06:40] <plong0> PaloAlto: did you try man chmod?
[06:41] <Indiadev_Techie> MagoonD: try this >> $ sudo mount /mnt/hda1
 why doesnt chmod agroup=-rwx bla/ work ?
[06:41] <Darkmystere> Well Lucky for me that i installed Backtrack... or id be out of os's to boot in..
[06:41] <MrObvious> KevinVN: Sorry I forget exactly. I'm rather tired.
[06:41] <nickrud> Dezine: restart gimp, it should find it. If not, run   fc-cache  in a terminal
[06:41] <Dezine> ok ty
[06:41] <plong0> PaloAlto: man chmod
[06:41] <KevinVN> oh, thanks!
[06:41] <Indiadev_Techie> MagoonD: $ sudo mount /mnt/hda1  (here hda1 is the partition name)...
[06:41] <EnvoyRising> someone say my name? i missed it
[06:41] <KevinVN> How to reinstall driver NVIDIA?
[06:41] <^CatMan^> Indiadev_Techie: wouldn't sudo mount /dev/hda1 work better?
[06:42] <n2diy> I've had three brown outs in the last ten minutes, and my phone line went dead too. A local power pole is down, so major powerline work is up coming. Other then shutting down, what should I do to protect my system, so it will do an orderly power up, if I do lose power?
[06:42] <tigran> I can turn on my second pc using a Windows utility for wake-on-lan, but if I use etherwake or wakeonlan from my linux pc, it doesn't turn the other pc on, what can I do?
[06:42] <joanki> nickrud... it's not working
[06:42] <Indiadev_Techie> ^CatMan^: yes...
[06:42] <Indiadev_Techie> ^CatMan^: thanx..
[06:42] <^CatMan^> :D
[06:42] <plong0> PaloAlto: if you just want to remove for group do... chmod g-rwx bla
[06:42] <Indiadev_Techie> ^CatMan^: :)
[06:42] <sleepwalk> Dezine: Sorry, I was coming into the end of the conversation I guess. hehe
[06:42] <^CatMan^> i'm slowly but surely learnin this system
[06:43] <Dezine> np
[06:43] <^CatMan^> it's just got a few quirks that i need to figure out :)
[06:43] <patogen> Is icecast something that requires much of your computer?
[06:43] <PaloAlto> plong0, i want to do it for a specefic group
[06:43] <Dezine> I don't think I explained that I downloaded the file so it's ok
[06:43] <PaloAlto> not for my current group
[06:43] <nickrud> joanki: I would type at a terminal,  scp  /path/to/local/file username@host.com:/home/username  to put it my home dir on the remote machine
[06:43] <KevinVN> How to reinstall driver NVIDIA?
[06:43] <plong0> PaloAlto: chown groupname:username
[06:44] <joanki> so in my ubuntu terminal (not remote host) type that?
[06:44] <plong0> PaloAlto: sorry chown groupname:username
[06:44] <nickrud> joanki: yes
[06:44] <plong0> PaloAlto: double sorry chown username:groupname
[06:45] <nickrud> plong0: you can get the hat trick on sorries, do the command with a file :)
[06:45] <^CatMan^> screw it! i'm just gonna use my $5 alarm clock to get me up in the morning! lol
[06:46] <plong0> PaloAlto: triple sorry FTW chown username:groupname bla
[06:46] <nickrud> ^CatMan^: 'the right tool for the right job' :)
[06:46] <joanki> it's connecting now nickrud but it says Permission denied
[06:46] <nickrud> plong0: rflol
[06:46] <PaloAlto> ok, plong0 , that will change the folder's owner, which is not quite what i want, i created a new group, with a new user, and i want this user to be jailed essentially
[06:46] <nickrud> joanki: did it ask for a password?
[06:46] <joanki> yes
[06:46] <^CatMan^> nickrud: i was thinkin tho that if i can get it to wake me up, then i can get it to do other system admin tasks while i'm sleepin
[06:46] <PaloAlto> and there is folders the group has access to, and i want to change that
[06:46] <nickrud> joanki: ok, now be sure you have write permissions to the path you specified
[06:47] <joanki> waait... the problem is my file
[06:47] <joanki> i did this:  scp ./file_name.c user@remoteHost:/
[06:47] <Acoustyk> is there an emerald channel?
[06:47] <joanki> it says Permission is denied to my file
[06:47]  * ^CatMan^ hisses at the wolf_ :D
[06:48] <nickrud> joanki: that's not a place you can scp to, it's a system file. (unless you ssh'ed in as root, which is a BAD IDEA
[06:48] <plong0> PaloAlto: I don't think you can change permissions on a per-group basis like that.  this might help though http://www.unix.com/linux/13554-how-can-i-jail-user.html
[06:48] <joanki> i thought that was a syntax for my pwd?
[06:48] <joanki> the file is in my pwd
[06:49] <PaloAlto> kk, thanks
[06:49] <joanki> oh wow nickrud it works
[06:49] <nickrud> joanki: I'm talking about on the remote machine, as a user you can only write to your home dir and below on the remote machine
[06:49] <joanki> thanks soooo much
[06:49] <buffdaemon> msg buffdaemon buffdaemon
[06:49] <Acoustyk> emerald will not theme my top/bottom bars or scroll bar.  How do I fix this?
[06:49] <plong0> PaloAlto: np and good luck
[06:50] <nickrud> Acoustyk: scroll bars aren't part of emerald, they're part of the gtk2 theme. Same for the top and bottom panels on the screen
[06:50] <fuffalo> how do i make the side ("back button") on my mouse go back in firefox under ubuntu/
[06:50] <nickrud> !mouse | fuffalo
[06:50] <ubotu> fuffalo: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:51] <Acoustyk> thanks
[06:51] <plong0> !neat | nickrud
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about neat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <Darkmystere> Can some one help me get my root partion to mount as write and read?
[06:51] <EnvoyRising> fuffalo: if i remember correctly you're in for a rough road, reason being you'll have to edit yoru xorg.conf and install some more packages to get your forward and back buttons to work
[06:52] <^CatMan^> EnvoyRising: that sounds like fun! lol
[06:52] <EnvoyRising> fuffalo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374 heres a guide
[06:52] <EnvoyRising> GL
[06:53] <nickrud> what does opengl have to do with mices?
[06:53] <plong0> I went down a rough road with a girl once...
[06:53] <^CatMan^> plong0: only once? lol
[06:53] <plong0> nickrud: xsever is your I/O master
[06:54] <EnvoyRising> oh, and if you happen to get through mouse config with all of your hair in tact, kudos
[06:55] <CoLD^MeTaL> hi, does anyone here know a good soulseek client?
[06:55] <EnvoyRising> torrent > soulseek
[06:55] <CoLD^MeTaL> well, for speed yes
[06:55] <CoLD^MeTaL> for rare music, not quite so
[06:56] <plong0> ^CatMan^: ok maybe it was more than once...  but this one time, I mean... on a rough road... we were in the car... on a rough road... naked in the backseat... on a rough rooooad... having the time, of our lives... on a rough roooad.... but wait! who's driving the car??? ... on a rough roooad. oh shit! we're off the rough road...
[06:56] <nickrud> !o4o | plong0 (also language)
[06:56] <ubotu> plong0 (also language): Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[06:56] <^CatMan^> plong0: roflmao
[06:56] <CoLD^MeTaL> so anyone here has a clue of any good soulseek clients?
[06:57] <^CatMan^> plong0: did u get booted? lol
[06:57] <plong0> lol no
[06:57] <plong0> scolded
[06:57] <^CatMan^> just warned :)
[06:57] <Darkmystere> Can some one please help...?
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> how can I get the regular terminal to open to a fixed height and width whenever a new terminal is opened?
[06:58] <^CatMan^> Darkmystere: with what?
[06:58] <nickrud> Darkmystere: wish I could ... have you tried booting a livecd and fscking the partition?
[06:58] <TheLittlePrince> Is there anyone who uses Palm PDA(LifeDrive)?
[06:59] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan: you would edit the menu launcher item, add --geometry=80x50  for example (50 lines, 80 chars)
[06:59] <dave> hi. im looking to make money online quick and automatically. ive written scripts for signing up and messaging automation and im familiar with affiliates. i have experience with programming in different languages and can pick them up quick. im looking for other coders to talk to and possibly share ideas.
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> nickrud, I initially did that.. to no avail
[06:59] <Jigs> brb
[06:59] <n2diy> CaptainMorgan: Close it the way you like it configured?
[06:59] <nickrud> dave: you should ask that on #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:59] <^CatMan^> CaptainMorgan: i just keep a terminal open all the time :D
[07:00] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan: using the menu after you did that didn't work? then you have something wrong in your editing
[07:00] <^CatMan^> CaptainMorgan: that way, i resize it once and it's done :D
[07:00] <Darkmystere> Im doing fcsk from Backtrack right now tho
[07:00] <CaptainMorgan> thanks ^CatMan^ but that's not the solution I require
[07:00] <Darkmystere> its my last os that i can boot :/
[07:00] <Darkmystere> Windows it broke...
[07:01] <Darkmystere> so is Ubuntu..
[07:01] <plong0> ^CatMan^: I keep at least 3...  when I'm in development mode, I open a couple more, most of them would have a vi window split a few times
[07:01] <EnvoyRising_> can someone kick EnvoyRising so i can get my name back?
[07:01] <^CatMan^> plong0: when i'm doin that kind of stuff, i use kate :D that's got a built in terminal :D
[07:01] <^CatMan^> and it looks pretty :D
[07:02] <plong0> kate?
[07:02] <plong0> vi is my life
[07:02] <mkquist> Darkmystere: whats up?
[07:02] <EnvoyRising_> gedit has a built in terminal as well
[07:02] <ph0rensic> nickrud, Is there a preferred file system to use for setting up a share that ubuntu users and windows users can access?
[07:02] <plong0> well maybe not my life... but I do love coding in it
[07:02] <n2diy> EnvoyRising_: be quite for twenty minutes, and he'll get dropped, then you can use the nick command to get it back.
[07:02] <mkquist> Darkmystere: I'll take a stab at it, but it's late for me...
[07:02] <^CatMan^> plong0: as funny as this may sound, i don't know how to use vi
[07:02] <bro-man> How can I undelete an entire folder I just accidently deleted (not sent to trashbin) ???
[07:02] <Darkmystere> Well...I was trying to use VMWare Workstation to boot windows partion like a VM
[07:03] <magnetron> yo yo yo Darkmystere, what's up with the crappy graphics card
[07:03] <EnvoyRising_> 20 min? oh well
[07:03] <^CatMan^> plong0: with kate, or even gedit, it's all point and shoot :D
[07:03] <magnetron> bro-man: you can't.
[07:03] <Darkmystere> And i wasnt successfull the first time because of privilages so i do sudo /usr/bin/vmware...then tried again it was doing too much so i killed it..
[07:03] <nickrud> EnvoyRising_: if you register EnvoyRising with freenode you can use /msg nickserv ghost Envoyrising , give it your password and kick it yourself next time
[07:03] <plong0> ^CatMan^: yeah, vi takes a bit to get used to at first... but once you get the basics it's wicked. no mousing needed.
[07:04] <EnvoyRising_> ^CatMan^: i like vi. tried emacs too and liked it, but i swear it felt like instant carpal tunnel using it
[07:04] <magnetron> ph0rensic: fat32 or maybe ntfs
[07:04] <Darkmystere> then Ktorrent started complaining about read-only filesystem so i tried sudo nautilus then it was saying read-only filesystem too
[07:04] <nickrud> EnvoyRising_: I remapped caps lock as ctl, my fingers thanked me muchly
[07:04] <plong0> ph0rensic: I wouldn't recommend ntfs for linux-windows sharing
[07:05] <Darkmystere> so i tried sudo gedit (some file that needs you to be super user to use...and it gave readonly too..
[07:05] <^CatMan^> i guess i'm just familiar with a windows based platform, and i like the looks of it and still have all the shortcut keys available
[07:05] <EnvoyRising_> nickrud: good idea
[07:05] <ph0rensic> nickrud, Is there a preferred file system to use for setting up a share that ubuntu users and windows users can access?
[07:05]  * ^CatMan^ runs kde4
[07:05] <CaptainMorgan> nickrud, got it... thanks.. I figured out that through the Applications > Accessories > Terminal, it would work, but I was launching form the panel, so I just replaced the current launcher in the panel with the new one. works. Cheers :)
[07:05] <bro-man> magnetron:   come on, man... even winblows has a ton of programs that can do it... is this Linux's axhilles heel ?
[07:05] <ph0rensic> magnetron, Could I use ext or would windows not be able to read it?
[07:05] <plong0> oh... kde...
[07:06] <^CatMan^> wtg CaptainMorgan :)
[07:06] <plong0> ph0rensic: windows can't read ext
[07:06] <nickrud> ph0rensic: sorry, I forgot to answer. On the same machine? ntfs is good enough, you can use fs-driver.org for ext2 if you like. samba for between machines
[07:06] <mkquist> Darkmystere: so ur running windows vmware?  Prob can't help w/that,  I just dual boot.  But what's with all the sudo's?  Did you just randomly do this or investigate it first?
[07:06] <^CatMan^> samba can tho plong0
[07:06] <mkquist> *under
[07:06] <plong0> hassle to use it though
[07:06] <EnvoyRising_> bro-man: what doesn' linux have again?
[07:06] <plong0> well one extra step... but yeah
[07:07] <n2diy> I've had three brown outs in the last ten minutes, and my phone line went dead too. A local power pole is down, so major powerline work is up coming. Other then shutting down, what should I do to protect my system, so it will do an orderly power up, if I do lose power?
[07:07] <^CatMan^> EnvoyRising_: a long wait time for bug fixes :D
[07:07] <bro-man> I'm hearing Linux wont undelete...  (as in 'not sent to trashbin"...
[07:07] <nickrud> n2diy: unplug it if you're concerned about a surge
[07:07] <mkquist> n2diy: shut it down... unless u have a lot of faith in ur surge... id think
[07:08] <EnvoyRising_> ^CatMan^: you mean bug pseudo fixes, right?
[07:08] <mkquist> nickrud: ur only risking ur machine after all...
[07:08] <EnvoyRising_> or rather relabeling as a feature, lol
[07:08] <plong0> n2diy: disconnect it from the wall socket, wrap it in tin foil and put it in the bathtub
[07:08] <^CatMan^> EnvoyRising_: hey, as long as they work :D
[07:08] <magnetron> bro-man: ext3 is designed with efficiency in mind. it efficiently removes files if you delete them. that's why there is a trash can. i'm afraid you'll have to go and get your backups.
[07:08] <mkquist> nickrud: sry wrong person
[07:08] <nickrud> mkquist: I'm a fraidy cat :0
[07:08] <mkquist> nickrud: nvm.. lol
[07:09] <mkquist> lmao.. after that
[07:09] <plong0> EnvoyRising_: aren't all bug fixes, really just bug pseudo fixes?
[07:09] <EnvoyRising_> plong0: arguably, lol
[07:09] <n2diy> nickrud: mkquist, plong0, thanks, wasn't exactly of what I was thinking. So fare I'm riding out the trouble, and I'm sorry I didn't replace my UPS. I was thinking more along the line of updatedb.
[07:09] <EnvoyRising_> speaking of which, i need a fix. i haven't programmed anything in forever
[07:09]  * Darkmystere &2
[07:09] <n2diy> fare/far
[07:10] <nickrud> n2diy: that gets run at 7:30 am each day ...
[07:10] <plong0> EnvoyRising_: processing.org baby
[07:10] <Darkmystere> Oh sorry didnt mean to don that...
[07:10] <soldats> hey, what codecs do i need for streaming from mplayer-nogui. i thought i had them on this new install. maybe i typoed a command or something
[07:10] <nano__> and the best/coolest gnome mp3 player is....
[07:10] <nickrud> n2diy: assuming you're on 24/7 that is
[07:10] <n2diy> nickrud: or whenever I want to run it.
[07:10] <mkquist> n2diy: well, if ur ups is something ur count on then go ahead.. but it's only your computer at stake here
[07:10] <[chr0n0s]> nano_, nano_
[07:11] <soldats> nano__: mocp (a cli based mp3 player)
[07:11]  * Darkmystere does anymore know the answer to my problem?
[07:11] <[chr0n0s]> nano__, nano__
[07:11] <nano__> ?
[07:11] <n2diy> mkquist: I have a back up/test box.
[07:11] <nano__> chr0n0s: are you trying to say something?
[07:11] <joe_> does anybody know what mythtv is?
[07:11] <EnvoyRising_> plong0: so its like art  for coding junkies?
[07:11] <mkquist> n2diy: always a good thing
[07:11] <bazhang> joe_: like tivo but free
[07:12] <n2diy> mkquist: Yes, and it makes playing with linux/ubuntu fun, not a worry.
[07:12] <joe_> bazhang, do u have to have cable?
[07:12] <Stoffer> i have an external usb hard drive that isn't partitioned...how do I go about partitioning it when ubuntu can't find it?
[07:12] <joe_> or is it internet streams
[07:12] <mkquist> n2diy: soo true
[07:12] <[chr0n0s]> Stoffer, install gparted, and fix it
[07:13] <bazhang> joe_: it is much like tivo--you record stuff you want from cable tv (though terrestrial could work too)
[07:13] <bro-man> magnetron: ... I realize that... but I just goofed and deleted a folder just now and it couldn't have been written over yet... so I was hoping someone might know of a program that can reverse an ext3 deletion...
[07:13] <Stoffer> [chr0n0s], gparted doesn't see it anymore...well it does till you try doing something then it says it doesn't exist
[07:13] <Stoffer> [chr0n0s], i'm gonna try fdisk
[07:13] <Darkmystere> Err Repeating my self for all channels besides #windows because i just joined it: I tried using VMware Workstation in Ubuntu to run Windows XP pro partion like a VM and it didnt work because of permissions and now ubuntu wont boot and of course neither Windows
[07:13] <soldats> hey bazhang :)... do you recall then plugins or codecs i need for mplayer to stream musics
[07:14] <[chr0n0s]> Stoffer, check dmesg immediately after you plugin the hdd
[07:14] <bazhang> soldats: heya ;] you mean like shoutcast or that?
[07:14] <EnvoyRising_> alright people, i've spent enough of my day in here, :-\
[07:14] <bazhang> heh thats what we all say ;]
[07:15] <joanki> can anyone tell me how to use halt with a time to shut off in one hour?
[07:15] <Stoffer> [chr0n0s], ok, I did, what information am I looking for?
[07:15] <^CatMan^> bazhang: actually, i spend to much of my time on dal.net :)
[07:15] <soldats> bazhang: yea. my old install had em. it streams from shoutcast. i can stream it from FF but i dont like gui stuff.
[07:15] <Stoffer> [chr0n0s], it did give me some output related to the hdd
[07:16] <^CatMan^> wb plong0
[07:16] <^CatMan^> plong0: get booted that time? lol
[07:16] <joanki> can anyone tell me how to use halt with a time to shut off in one hour?
[07:17] <[chr0n0s]> Stoffer, just read it.. if there is some problem with hdd, then it normally shows up there, in normally understandable english
[07:17] <ajax4> Hey guys...how do I change the refresh rate of my monitor? It's at 50 right now which is way too low. System > Preferences > Monitor Setting says that I don't have a supported monitor.
[07:17] <^CatMan^> sudo halt +1 hour
[07:17] <magnetron> bro-man: the pointers to the file gets overwritten during deletion. you could unmount it and grep through all the free space on the hard drive. you could also hire a computer data recovery firm to do this for you, unless you have any backups. this all assumes that you use the ext3 filesystem.
[07:17] <ajax4> joanki: You just want to shut down your computer at a specific time?
[07:17] <joanki> yes
[07:17] <joanki> can i use halt
[07:18] <joanki> or shutdown -h 4:00 ?
[07:18] <ajax4> joanki: I use a program called gshutdown
[07:18] <bazhang> soldats would that be with compiz or without? there is a compiz type wdiget that will do it here-- http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=1252 otherwise win32codecs should do the trick--there are several threads at the forums on this precise topic
[07:18] <^CatMan^> ajax4: r u runnin gnome?
[07:18] <bazhang> ^CatMan^: hehe; well at least here can claim to be productive ;]
[07:18] <ajax4> ^CatMan^: Yes.
[07:19] <achandrashekar> Hello...in configuring ldap server.. Im having an issue with ldap server booting up properly....anyone else experience this
[07:19] <^CatMan^> bazhang: i can be productive over there too ;)
[07:19] <soldats> bazhang: no i dont really use guis. its basically a cli install
[07:19] <ogre> im using emerald as window manager. whenever i minimize window it restarts X. how can i troubleshoot this?
[07:19] <^CatMan^> bazhang: just not with computers ;) lol
[07:19] <soldats> bazhang: ill keep searching through aptitude. thanks though :P
[07:20] <Carutsu_> !eo
[07:20] <ubotu> Iru al #ubuntu-eo, Bonvole.
[07:20] <ajax4> ^CatMan^: Any ideas?
[07:20] <Carutsu_> oh, nice, it's empty!
[07:20] <bazhang> http://gunbladeiv.blogspot.com/2008/01/ubuntu-record-streaming-media.html soldats here is something about cli though not sure if you want to record or just stream
[07:20] <^CatMan^> ajax4: several, but about what topic specifically? lol
[07:20] <ajax4> ^CatMan^: How to change my monitor refresh rate.
[07:21] <soldats> bazhang: thx ill check it out. im just streaming a friends server.
[07:21] <ajax4> ^CatMan^: System > Preferences > Monitor Settings doesn't work, says I don't have a supported monitor.
[07:21] <tko_> hello
[07:22] <plong0> ^CatMan^: no I didn't get booted... my IBM SketchPad's screen is dieing out on me
[07:22] <^CatMan^> ajax4: personally i would look at the back of ur monitor to find the specifications for that monitor and put those numbers in under a custom setting
[07:23] <ogre> im using emerald as window manager. whenever i minimize window it restarts X. how can i troubleshoot this?
[07:23] <plong0> ^CatMan^: I can't mount hda1 (primary hd) on my main comp
[07:23] <dave> you guys think i could run ubuntu on a dell inspiron 1100 with like 768 ram?
[07:23] <plong0> it doesn't even show up under /dev/
[07:23] <soldats> bazhang: crap i just relized i need a mplayer plugin to read .pls plsylist files
[07:23] <soldats> my eyes are sleepy :)
[07:23] <^CatMan^> plong0: have u checked ur /etc/fstab to see if it is listed there?
[07:24] <dave> im currently running xubuntu on it
[07:24] <n2diy> dave, Dapper runs fine here on 256k. dual 333m cpu's.
[07:24] <soldats> dave: of course
[07:24] <plong0> ^CatMan^: yeah, checked the fstab, not there...  I end up booting into my ubuntustudio install on sdb1
[07:25] <^CatMan^> dave: i'm running kubuntu on a 900 MhZ processor with 128 MG of RAM quite effeciently :D
[07:25] <dave> i tried installing ubuntu on the dell inspiron 1100 in the past when it had 256 ram
[07:25] <[chr0n0s]> n2diy, dual 333mhz cpu.. !
[07:25] <soldats> dave: i used to run ubuntu on 256 mb ram but i switched to xubuntu way back
[07:25] <dave> it didnt want to run
[07:25] <plong0> ^CatMan^: I made a post on the ubuntuforums... it was kind of busy in here earlier
[07:25] <dave> i dunno. i have xubuntu right now. but it seems so. uhh... minimal
[07:26] <[chr0n0s]> dave, not much difference b/w kubuntu and ubuntu
[07:26] <dave> im thinking about just buying a new laptop
[07:26] <soldats> dave: minimal is a cli install which i have right now
[07:26] <^CatMan^> have u checked the dmesg plong0 to see what the puter thinks the hd is when it boots up?
[07:26] <plong0> my SketchPad R40 here I think is a 1ghz with 512mb of ram...  runs it alright
[07:26] <n2diy> (chr0n0s] Yep, 1996 IBM Intelliprow's.
[07:26] <n2diy> prows/pros
[07:27] <Jigs> o boi.. i thought problem will be solved after i reformat my HD then install xubuntu same failed. error 18 again after installing xp and xubuntu then restart. no menu display? what should i do?
[07:27] <^CatMan^> dave considering that they make laptops so tiny now, that seems almost funny :D
[07:27] <dave> i just want a laptop with nice resolution
[07:27] <dave> 1024x768 i feel like im trapped in a box
[07:27] <dave> text size seems like 60pt font
[07:27] <^CatMan^> i'm runnin 1280 x 1024
[07:28] <bro-man> magnetron: ... thanks for the info... I will see if I can find a crash course in grep... but luckily, it was only a movie folder full of rar's... and that might be my dealbreaker... regardless... thats for the info, very informative...
[07:28] <plong0> Jigs: wait till her birthday...
[07:28] <dave> yeah i dont think this inspiron can go past 1024x768
[07:28] <os2mac> I want to make an Ubuntu Live thumbdrive, I am running either Ubuntu Fiesty or Mac OSX leopard depending on which machine I do it on... the only instructions I have seen are for  windows.... can anyone help?
[07:28] <jay-oh-en> ^CatMan^, me too
[07:28] <plong0> Jigs: is your hardware failing?
[07:28] <Helmers> can't boot from the 'alternate' install cd, but can from the normal one... any ideas?
[07:28] <fouad> I'm trying to setup a bridge and I have some problems to do so.... Host=Ubuntu 7.10 , Guest=CentOS , I'm following the steps describe on this website http://doc.gwos.org/doku.php/doc:office:virtualbox#bridging_your_network_card
[07:28] <fouad> but CentOS can't get the ip address, I'm using a wireless connection (Broadcom 4xxx (ndiswrapper))
[07:28] <fouad> any suggestion ?
 or maybe if you can point me to a place where I can verify the logs
[07:28] <^CatMan^> personally dave, i wouldn't buy a dell, but that's just me :)
[07:29] <bazhang> jigs xp first followed by xubuntu? that should work--you might consider hardware issues
[07:29] <dave> i got it from a friend
[07:29] <Jigs> plong0: it is working ok with XP
[07:29] <dave> i was thinking about getting a ibm thinkpad
[07:29] <dave> always wanted one
[07:29] <Jigs> bazhang: yes i installed xp first then defrag then xubuntu
[07:29] <ogre> im using emerald as window manager. whenever i minimize window it restarts X. how can i troubleshoot this?
[07:29] <n2diy> Helmers: try your boot options, noacpi, nodma, etc...
[07:29] <bazhang> !ot | dave
[07:29] <ubotu> dave: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:29] <Jigs> bazhang: after installing xubuntu restart the machine it cant go in.. error 18 came out
[07:30] <dave> they banned me from off-topic
[07:30] <Helmers> n2diy: appears the iso image didn't mark itself as bootable or something, don't even get the GRUB menu
[07:30] <^CatMan^> lmao dave
[07:30] <dave> lol
[07:30] <bazhang> dave then stop being offtopic here
[07:30] <dave> im lonely and want to talk
[07:30] <Jigs> bazhang: is there a way to edit the menu.lst?
[07:30] <magnetron> !support > dave
[07:30] <bazhang> jigs sure check the grub in /msg ubotu
[07:31] <ogre> how do i make a program automatically run as root?
[07:31] <dave> magnetron: http://kleenex.com
[07:31] <plong0> ^CatMan^ do you know what I should be looking for in my dmesg?  I can't see hda1 or its uuid
[07:32] <^CatMan^> plong0: just a sec, lemme look at mine really quick
[07:33] <Jigs> bazhang: nope... perhaps better start from the beginning and never install ubuntu again to my other machine.
[07:33] <ogre> how do i make a program in my menu automatically run as root?
[07:33] <Jigs> tnx
[07:34] <plong0> ^CatMan^: I found an entry for my hard drive... it just says hda: Maxtor 6Y080L, ATA DISK dive
[07:34] <plong0> that's the right one
[07:34] <bazhang> jigs that seems overly rash--we can definitelly work this out
[07:34] <plong0> but I can't mount it
[07:35] <ogre> bazhang:  he left
[07:35] <belph> http://bux.to/?r=register.aspx
[07:35] <bazhang> thanks ogre
[07:35] <ogre> how do i make a program in my menu automatically run as root?
[07:36] <plong0> ogre: you could add a launcher of it to your panel, then edit its command to have sudo at the beginning
[07:36] <bazhang> ogre though that is not recommended you can do so; gksudo program name from run command window if I recall corerectly
[07:37] <plong0> ogre: there is probably a better way though
[07:37] <bazhang> correctly even
[07:37] <ngoato> From an inexperienced user trying to add a repository to Gusty: I have tried to use the graphical interface through "software source" to add the following repository:deb http://ftp.up.ac.za/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/ but the "add source" button is still dim and hence inactive. Can anybody give me some advice, Thank you.
[07:37] <macogw> ngoato: why'd you add all those slashes?  lots of them should be spaces
[07:38] <bazhang> ngoato: what is in that repo that the regular ones do not have?
[07:38] <^CatMan^> in mine i found: Kernel command line: root=UUID=ab295801-fac8-46d3-8ac5-e7781266e81a ro quiet splash
[07:39] <^CatMan^> but i got that from my /etc/fstab that points to my hda1
[07:39] <macogw> ngoato: at least, there should be spaces in the thing somewhere...they should take a format like this:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main  see the spaces?
[07:39] <ngoato> macogw and bazhang the spaced may be my problem. I just copied them from the ftp reference. I am trying to minimise download costs and my work is at up.ac.za, which is the university of pretoria
[07:39] <iain-dalton> What causes Ubuntu to be unable to mount any drives in read-write mode on boot?
[07:39] <^CatMan^> plong0: i got that UUID from my fstab, but the line came from my dmesg
[07:39] <towlie> who here has used an encrypted partition in ubuntu ?
[07:40] <plong0> ^CatMan^: thanks... I couldn't find my hard drive's UUID in my dmesg
[07:40] <^CatMan^> plong0: does it show up at all anywhere in ur system?
[07:40] <bazhang> ngoato: there should be mirrors there in south africa..
[07:40] <^CatMan^> plong0: like can it be mounted?
[07:41] <plong0> ^CatMan^: I can see where it mounts my sdb1 drive... then right after it has a line hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0, ATA DISK drive
[07:41] <bazhang> towlie ask if you have a question
[07:41] <towlie> ok
[07:41] <bazhang> towlie truecrypt can do that iirc
[07:41] <plong0> ^CatMan^: I can't mount it.... right after that hda line, it goes into ieee1394 loading
[07:41] <bazhang> seems there is gui for linux as well now towlie
[07:42] <^CatMan^> plong0: that should be it, if u add a line in ur /etc/fstab, it should be able to mount it then
[07:42] <plong0> ^CatMan^: I will try...
[07:42] <plong0> ^CatMan^: thanks
[07:43] <^CatMan^> plong0: np
[07:43] <towlie> i have ubuntu set up with an encrypted partition. i have 2 partitons. 1 for /boot and the encrypted partition as the 2nd partition. is there a way to have /boot inside the encrypted partition ?
[07:43] <SherSlick> I have having trouble getting my soundcard to work. Any ideas?
[07:43] <^CatMan^> plong0: my /etc/fstab looks like this for my hda1: UUID=ab295801-fac8-46d3-8ac5-e7781266e81a / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[07:44] <bazhang> towlie what is the reason for /boot to be encrypted? you can set a password in your BIOS you know
[07:44] <^CatMan^> plong0: u'd obviously have to change the UUID # to ur hd # :D
[07:44] <bazhang> towlie although try not to forget it, or no one will be able to boot that computer ;]
[07:45] <frold> In xchat howto change what channels I autojoin?
[07:45] <towlie> bazhang, cause i am running ubuntu on my macbook and i want to only have 1 partition
[07:45] <iain-dalton> I'm such a stooge, I think I figured out my own problem.  Thanks, silent sounding board!
[07:45] <^CatMan^> frold: that should be in the settings somewhere :)
[07:46] <bazhang> aha and macbooks dont use the regular bios do they
[07:46] <frold> Ï cant find it in prefereces... :S
[07:46] <towlie> nope
[07:47] <^CatMan^> frold: is there anyplace in xchat where u can manage the networks and servers?
[07:47] <dts> so i was checking out "erotic services" in my area and some of the girls say "GND" what does that stand for?
[07:47] <hw00djohn> someone was helping me earlier, but I forget who.  anyway, ubuntu 7.10 is on my comp now and working great...just need to get this stuff figured out for the nvidia drivers, etc
[07:47] <^CatMan^> dts: i'm not sure i wanna know that one! lol
[07:47] <towlie> got no diseases ?
[07:47] <^CatMan^> towlie: lmao
[07:48] <^CatMan^> that's prolly it!
[07:48] <bazhang> !ot | dts
[07:48] <ubotu> dts: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:48] <towlie> gives no dicksucks ?
[07:48] <towlie> lol no
[07:48] <SherSlick> Anyone got any ideas on my sound card?
[07:48] <bazhang> language towlie
[07:48] <dts> lol
[07:48] <towlie> :p
[07:48] <dts> thanks guys!
[07:49] <hw00djohn> I'm new to ubuntu, i'm trying to install the restricted drivers for my nvidia 5200 go so i can run compiz...however, it's giving me an error, can anyone help?
[07:49] <towlie> now why would you join an ubuntu channel to ask that ?
[07:49] <hw00djohn> because that's the system I'm using, and this is the ubuntu help channel
[07:49] <SherSlick> casue no one else will listen..
[07:49] <^CatMan^> hw00djohn: not u :) dts :)
[07:50] <bazhang> hw00djohn: what error are you receiving?
[07:50] <genbuntu> hi
[07:50] <hw00djohn> nvidia - glx - new is not enabled
[07:50] <hw00djohn> i tried to google it, and whne i tried to install that, it gave me an error as well
[07:51] <frold> ^CatMan^: Heheh I found it.... From the list of channels Im on I can right click on and channel and there I can choose to autojoin on startup :D
[07:51] <^CatMan^> frold: glad i could help :)
[07:51] <frold> :D
[07:51] <EnvoyRising> ok, so i'm  back anyways
[07:51] <bazhang> !info nvidia-glx-new
[07:51] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (2.6.22.4-14.10)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[07:52] <bazhang> see above hw00djohn
[07:52] <EnvoyRising> is lmmx the closest linux has come to FL studio so far?'
[07:52] <frold> !spamassig
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spamassig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <bazhang> you can install it from the repos hw00djohn
[07:52] <hw00djohn> repos?
[07:52] <hw00djohn> like i said, i'm completely new
[07:53] <^CatMan^> hw00djohn: repositories
[07:53] <EnvoyRising> hw00djohn: lol. newbies..we'll take  care of you
[07:53] <hw00djohn> and this is why ubuntu is so much better than windows
[07:53] <hw00djohn> and where would i find the repositories?
[07:53] <^CatMan^> hw00djohn: /uptime
[07:53] <n2diy> I just talked to a blind friend of mine, and he says there is text reading software coming to market for Ubuntu? Anybody familial with this?
[07:53] <^CatMan^> Uptime: 5 days, 16 hours and 6 minutes
[07:53] <bazhang> hw00djohn: open up synaptic package manager
[07:53] <^CatMan^> hw00djohn: cuz i could never do that in windows
[07:54] <genbuntu> i need some help for screen resolution
[07:54] <EnvoyRising> hw00djohn: which is located in system > admin > synaptic package manager
[07:54] <frold> !spamassassin > frold
[07:54] <EnvoyRising> brb, need to change key bindings, keep accidentally changing to korean
[07:55] <nano__> whats the difference between /dev/sda files and /dev/sdb files?
[07:55] <^CatMan^> n2diy: i think i saw something about those in the "Accessories" repos during my last upgrade
[07:55] <mivo> Hello
[07:55] <^CatMan^> EnvoyRising: lmao
[07:55] <genbuntu> I can't get fullscreen at lower resolutions (like 640 x 480) when i 'm in game (tremulous)
[07:55] <n2diy> Catman, what flavor of Ubuntu?
[07:55] <EnvoyRising> ^CatMan^: 활씬 더좋아^^ << much better
[07:56] <mivo> When I start gstreamer-properties I get the following error: Segmentation error (core dumped)
[07:56] <hw00djohn> okay, so...now that i'm in the synaptic package manager, what should i search?
[07:56] <genbuntu> the system >preferences > screen resolution also has only two options 1280 x 768 and 1024 x 768
[07:56] <^CatMan^> n2diy: i'm runnin kubuntu 7.10 with KDE 4
[07:56] <genbuntu> any ideas/suggestions?
[07:56] <EnvoyRising> genbuntu: could always hack your xorg.conf file
[07:56] <Cackette> is it possible to play Steam games in Ubuntu?
[07:57] <EnvoyRising> likewise, if you have an nvidia vid card, you could install the nvidia config tool and that gives you better res options
[07:57] <deeptrance> anyone familiar with editing grub menus i partitioned my hard drive and when i installed ubuntu it didn't load my windows partition into my grub menu any help would be great
[07:57] <n2diy> Catman, ok, I'll have to search for a backport to Dapper.
[07:57] <EnvoyRising> Cackette: through wine. though i'd say give some linux g ames a shot
[07:57] <genbuntu> envoy, ya i tried adding a line "640x 480" to xorg.conf upon a suggestion of my friend but it didnt help :(
[07:57] <two_bits> Cackette: not sure... but i think maybe you should try investigating WINE, if you haven't already
[07:57] <EnvoyRising> Cackette: if you're into cs i'd say true-combat elite
[07:57] <genbuntu> i'm using on board intel graphics
[07:57] <^CatMan^> ok, well, i need to get some sleep :)
[07:57] <Cackette> i wanna play audiosurf and my windows computer has onboard graphics currently
[07:58] <genbuntu> cackette, try tremulous its nice
[07:58] <hw00djohn> if anyone with an extra minute wouldnt mind PMing me to help, it'd be greatly appreciated.
[07:58] <^CatMan^> i'll prolly be back on later today with some questions of my own to get worked out on this system :)
[07:58] <n2diy> hw00djohn: Forget PMing, that won't help the community.
[07:59] <nik0n_> hello, i have an ICH9 system which is only supportet by a 2.6.24 kernel
[07:59] <nik0n_> is there any way to install the system with an ubuntu cd?
[07:59] <nik0n_> now i do the bootstrap and kernel build on a different host but that quiet suxx
[07:59] <genbuntu> my native resolution is 1280x768 but when i change the rtesolution in game to a lower one like 640 x480 i cant get it to fullscreen (even tho i've setup in bios to stretch screen at lower resolutions)
[08:00] <Slart> nano__: sda is the first drive.. sdb the second drive.. sdc third drive etc
[08:01] <EnvoyRising> nik0n_: did you consider doing a stage3 tarball install?
[08:01] <Kuroachia> say one wanted to remove a particular desklet
[08:01] <Kuroachia> but could not right click on it and tell the app to remove it
[08:01] <Kuroachia> how might one go about such an ordeal?
[08:02] <EnvoyRising> Kuroachia: is it listed in system monitor?
[08:02] <Kuroachia> envoyrising: silly question, how could I tell?
[08:02] <nik0n_> EnvoyRising: i have to boot the new system with a kanotix live cd cause this one contains a 2.6.24 kernel. is there a guide (would be the easiest way) how to replace the kernel on the ubuntu install cd?
[08:02] <EnvoyRising> system > administration > system monitor
[08:03] <hw00djohn> can anyone help me with synaptic?
[08:03] <jesse> !ask
[08:03] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:03] <EnvoyRising> nik0n_: not that i know of, but maybe you could follow the knoppix alternate install guide for gentoo and do something similar
[08:03] <n2diy> hw00djohn: possibly.
[08:03] <mivo> When I start gstreamer-properties I get the following error: Segmentation error (core dumped) . What can I do about it ?
[08:04] <nik0n_> EnvoyRising: ok tha i have to look. i thought maybe someone in here would know this, dont wanted to reinvent the wheel
[08:04] <n2diy> hw00djohn: But you have to ask a question.
[08:04] <EnvoyRising> mivo: you'll have to post  the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org so that we can get more useful info to help you
[08:05] <hw00djohn> n2diy: i'm trying to update the restricted drivers for my nvidia 5200 go so i can run compiz.  when i try to update it, it says i need nvidia-glx-new, i searched nvidia in synaptic and found what i need...now i dont know how to put it on my comp.
[08:05] <thegattaca> how does one start an x11 application from the shell with the sticky state set to on?
[08:05] <EnvoyRising> nik0n_: actually, is that the only computer you have?
[08:05] <alex__> thegattaca, hard to say =( it probably depends on whether you can send, e.g., a dbus message to your window manager lol
[08:05] <n2diy> hw00djohn: Mark it for Install, and then click Apply.
[08:05] <alex__> or whether the application has a flag to start sticky
[08:06] <EnvoyRising> nik0n_: if not, or you know someone with a different computer, you could remaster ubuntu with the correct kernel and burn that
[08:06] <genbuntu> so how can i add extra resolutions to my default one of 1280x768 ?
[08:06] <hw00djohn> n2diy: the only option it gives me is to mark for removal OR complete removal
[08:06] <mivo> EnvoyRising: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56590/
[08:06] <EnvoyRising> even better, iso's are just archives right? could you just unpack it, replace the kernel, then remaster, nik0n_?
[08:07] <n2diy> hw00djohn: That indicates it is already installed!?
[08:07] <os2mac> has anyone had any luck getting 7.10 running on a MBP?
[08:07] <G1015> Help pidgin won't open anymore.. I did not do anything to cause this as far as I'm ware..
[08:07] <frold> In pidgin howto edit the name my friends see? ATM they see frold@work - but Im not at work anymore :D
[08:07] <frold> I guess it get it from webmessenger I have used at work
[08:08] <ngoato> macogw and bazhang  I checked the "choose a download server" but for south africa there is only ftp.leg.uct.ac.za and ubuntu.mirror.ac.za and so this would mean downloading software from sources of the university of pretoria campus. I tried putting the following into third party software : http://ftp.up.ac.za/mirrors/ubuntu/ubuntu-archive/ubuntu/dists/gusty main but even this does not seem to work.
[08:08] <hw00djohn> n2diy:  D:  now what?  lol.  heres the error i get when i try to enable the restricted driver "The software source for the package
[08:08] <hw00djohn>    nvidia-glx-new
[08:08] <hw00djohn>  is not enabled."
[08:08] <G1015> Ok i guess pidgin loaded cause somebody just sent me a message... but I can't find the buddy list anywhere .. its not in any of my tool bars
[08:09] <frold> !pidgin > frold
[08:09] <Niklas_E> anyone tried to use the tv-out on a x1250 ati card i ubuntu?
[08:10] <n2diy> hw00djohn: Looks like a permission problem, have you tried i as sudo?
[08:10] <n2diy> i/it
[08:10] <hw00djohn> n2diy: i have not idea what you mean. D:
[08:10] <jameela> is there any GUI irc client besides pidgin ?
[08:10] <G1015> nevermind i'm a fucking tard sorry to bug you guys
[08:10] <snorkel> anyone have experience in upgrading laptop hard drive and copying all the data?
[08:11] <plong0> jameela: xchat
[08:11] <nik0n_> EnvoyRising: remastering is the thing i thought about
[08:11] <ajushi> hi, i've installed tomcat5.5 and i started it by /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 start but whenever i try to nmap my box it doesn't show.i wonder if its really running.i can't seem to access it...
[08:11] <macogw> ngoato: i think another space between dists and gutsy.  wha site are you getting this from though?
[08:11] <EnvoyRising> mivon, try adding yourself to the 'audio' group
[08:11] <n2diy> hw00djohn: sudo <command> ?
[08:12] <jameela> playya_, k thanks
[08:12] <snorkel> is there an open source program equivalent to norton ghost?
[08:12] <Trikdo> hello. can somebody help me out?
[08:12] <jameela> plong0, k thanks
[08:12] <hw00djohn> n2diy: how would i access that or change it or whatever i need to do?
[08:12] <plong0> np jameela
[08:13] <n2diy> hw00djohn: open a terminal, and type "sudo <command>"
[08:13] <mivo> I'm new to ubuntu, how do I add myself to th audio group ?
[08:13] <Trikdo> for some reason my ubuntu installation is no longer mounted /
[08:13] <Trikdo> so grub wont load it
[08:13] <macogw> mivo: shouldve automatically been in there
[08:13] <hw00djohn> n2diy: terminal server client?
[08:13] <macogw> mivo: but its in system -> admin -> users & groups
[08:13] <EnvoyRising> go to system > administration >users and groups
[08:13] <inertial> what's the CLI command to change desktop resolution?
[08:14] <n2diy> hw00djohn: Application > Accesories > Terminal
[08:14] <EnvoyRising> go to your user name, click properties, then select the user privileges tab. make sure "use audio devices' is checked
[08:14] <plong0> Trikdo: I'm having the exact same problem... cept I can boot to my ubuntustudio install... just can't mount my primary
[08:15] <mivo> no audio group listed
[08:15] <plong0> mivo: have you created the audio group?
[08:15] <hw00djohn> n2diy: what command do i need to type?  also, i really appreciate this and you can be sure that once i'm competent, i will help people as well
[08:15] <EnvoyRising> trying to do some more brainstorming nik0n_
[08:15] <mivo> or how can I see in which groups I am ?
[08:15] <mivo> no, I haven't
[08:15] <Ghost1227> ok... why can't i get pcmcia working :P
[08:15] <Trikdo> well is there any way to just... remount it? every time i try it just mounts it as some other disk...
[08:15] <inertial> aha it's xrandr
[08:16] <EnvoyRising> mivo: like i said, after you open the user/group dialog, click on your user name and properties button
[08:16] <Aloha> i can't go to web pages in any browser, but irc and email works, anyone know what might be wrong?
[08:16] <n2diy> hw00djohn: sudo <command> ? Where <command> is the name of the program you want to run.
[08:16] <pizaninja> Hi
[08:16] <EnvoyRising> mivo: after than, click on the user permissions tab and it'll show you all groups you belong to (via check marks)
[08:16] <hw00djohn> n2diy: and i want to run nvidia-glx-new, correct?
[08:16] <EnvoyRising> you shouldn't have to make the audio group, it'll be there already, called "use audio devices"
[08:17] <n2diy> hw00djohn: I don't know, you may have to experirment?
[08:17] <hw00djohn> lol..okay, thanks...we'll let me work with it, and then i'll get back to you
[08:17] <mivo> eh...there is no user pemission tab
[08:18] <huma1> hello room
[08:18] <EnvoyRising> user privileges, excuse me
[08:18] <plong0> hello huma1
[08:18] <EnvoyRising> that was to mivo
[08:18] <n2diy> hw00djohn: GL, and do pass on your new knowledge. It is late here, so I'm going to bed, GL again.
[08:18] <Trikdo> :-/ anybody have ideas of how to remount ubuntu to /
[08:19] <plong0> Trikdo: is it mounting anything right now?
[08:19] <bazhang> !nvidia | hw00djohn read this it may help
[08:19] <ubotu> hw00djohn read this it may help: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:19] <EnvoyRising> Trikdo: just mount the the root partition to / ? :-P
[08:19] <mivo> no groups listed, only things  I can do or not
[08:20] <plong0> chek off use audio devices
[08:20] <plong0> mivo
[08:20] <mivo> ok, done
[08:20] <EnvoyRising> mivo: um... those things you can do or not ARE your groups... ubuntu is dummied down, so they express groups like that
[08:20] <Ghost1227> anyone got any suggestions for getting a pcmcia card to work
[08:21] <EnvoyRising> Ghost1227: did you make sure pmcia is compiled into your kernel or a modules?
[08:21] <EnvoyRising> module*
[08:21] <Master_Frag> Hi, I am trying to run an ubuntu dirivitive "Parsix" on an older computer, And it cannot start the X server...I am reletively new to linux and don't know how to fi this..Althoug I am pretty sure it's cause it is trying to use the onboard video "intel i810" and cannot find the proper drivers for the card..I have a Nvidia GeForce FX5200 installed on a PCI slot...and it's not picking it up..any suggestions?
[08:21] <Ghost1227> yep
[08:21] <huma1> i installed ubuntu last nite, im a noob.  i d/l'd rtorrent but have no idea how to get it to work.
[08:21] <EnvoyRising> mivo, now try the gstreamer thing again
[08:21] <mivo> ok, and now ?
[08:21] <mivo> same error
[08:22] <EnvoyRising> log out and in again
[08:22] <EnvoyRising> ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:22] <bazhang> Master_Frag: you should check if they have a channel--it is different enough to not be supported here
[08:22] <EnvoyRising> actually, Master_Frag, you said you have an intel card?
[08:23] <EnvoyRising> Master_Frag: try replacing the nv driver with mesa.. its slower, but it'll get you moving to start
[08:23] <Trikdo> i dont know how to mount it to /. every time i try something, it mounts as just some disk.
[08:23] <Master_Frag> This happens with gutsy as well, So it should make no difference
[08:23] <MiVo> no succes, error stays
[08:24] <EnvoyRising> and its only with gstreamer, MiVo or any time you try to config something audio related?
[08:24] <MiVo> sofar I can see only with gstreamer
[08:24] <vlt> Hello. Any idea why xorg sets the resolution to 1280x960 instead of 1280x1024 (which is set in xorg.conf)?
[08:24] <EnvoyRising> Master_Frag: you got my message right?
[08:24] <Master_Frag> Yes, Intel i810, 4mb. the system picks it up, and can't load it
[08:25] <trippy666> im on a DS
[08:25] <Master_Frag> X crash output is for errors...
[08:25] <EnvoyRising> Master_Frag: try the mesa driver real quick
[08:25] <EnvoyRising> at least then you can get into a working gui
[08:25] <Master_Frag> how, Again..just got into linux
[08:25] <Trikdo> how do i remount to / ?
[08:26] <EnvoyRising> Master_Frag: do you have an editor of choice? nano, vim, emacs?
[08:26] <Master_Frag> not really
[08:27] <EnvoyRising> Master_Frag: ok. in a terminal, type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:27] <santu> hello friends i am having problems installing ubuntu7.10 in my new desktop machine athlon Jetway 692 GDG 64 bot processor
[08:27] <santu> can any one help me out?
[08:27] <plong0> trippy666: a nintendo DS?
[08:27] <EnvoyRising> scroll down to the portion that says display and something about "driver: nv" <something like that... replace nv with vesa
[08:27] <bazhang> haha
[08:29] <EnvoyRising> actually, Master_Frag, you might want to backup your xorg.conf file first, lol
[08:29] <waini> hi
[08:29] <EnvoyRising> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[08:29] <EnvoyRising> plong0: http://www.dslinux.org/
[08:29] <waini> ubuntu do not have a firewall or something like this - or?
[08:30] <EnvoyRising> waini: ubuntu has plenty
[08:30] <santu> hello friends i am having problems installing ubuntu7.10 in my new desktop machine athlon Jetway 692 GDG 64 bot processor
[08:30] <Master_Frag> the system isnt installed..And i'm not even in X..
[08:30] <plong0> challenge anyone to a game of TetrisDS...
[08:31] <EnvoyRising> you don't have to be in x or have it installed to do what i was saying :P
[08:31] <EnvoyRising> just need a shell :)
[08:31] <waini> i mean by default
[08:31] <hw00djohn> HELP!!!  lol  i just used this sudo <command>  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" and got this. "Reading package lists... Done
[08:31] <hw00djohn> Building dependency tree
[08:31] <hw00djohn> Reading state information... Done
[08:31] <hw00djohn> Package nvidia-glx-new is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:31] <hw00djohn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:31] <waini> (having some trubble with rythmbox and itunes shred libary)
[08:31] <FloodBot2> hw00djohn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <hw00djohn> is only available from another source
[08:31] <huma1> can anyone help?  how do i remove the bitorrent app that installs with uturunt
[08:32] <huma1> ubuntu
[08:32] <hw00djohn> am i still muted?
[08:32] <bazhang> no hw00djohn
[08:32] <ccube> hi guis
[08:32] <ccube> can someone help me?
[08:33] <bazhang> sudo apt-get remove will do it huma1
[08:33] <EnvoyRising> waini, no. don't really need it
[08:33] <ccube> where to change my Desktop folder
[08:33] <EnvoyRising> help files recommend firestarter though
[08:33] <ccube> atm ists /home/user
[08:33] <ccube> i want to change to /home/user/Desktop
[08:33] <EnvoyRising> also, you could look into fedora 8. they include a firewall by default and some other security stuff
[08:33] <ccube> itsn on GNOME
[08:33] <talcite> hey guys, is it possible to set windows as the default in the menu.list file in grub?
[08:33] <hw00djohn> okay, i just tried to do a sudo <command>  can someone tell me what the response means??  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56591/
[08:34] <EnvoyRising> talcite: yes. just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[08:34] <bazhang> waini: iptables can be configured with firestarter
[08:34] <plong0> ccube... you just said "hi guis" ... likes guis graphical user interfaces... and well I don't think it was so good to do that.
[08:34] <talcite> just move the windows section infront of the linux kernels?
[08:34] <ccube> lol
[08:34] <talcite> I'm worried about that chainloader +1 line
[08:34] <EnvoyRising> plong0: its not that serious, it'll be ok
[08:34] <ccube> sorry
[08:34] <ccube> guys i meant
[08:34] <plong0> well... I don't know.  I just couldn't let that bad a pun slip...
[08:34] <EnvoyRising> talcite: thats part of the windows boot entry
[08:35] <plong0> it's ok ccube lol...
[08:35] <EnvoyRising> when you move  windows make sure to take that part with you
[08:35] <EnvoyRising> with it*
[08:35] <talcite> EnvoyRising, great. Thanks
[08:35] <EnvoyRising> np
[08:35] <hw00djohn> anyone got advice for that?
[08:35] <EnvoyRising> why would you want windows first anyways? :P i kid
[08:35] <ccube> first i was on xfce, and now im using Gnome. While the first boot gnome asked me to change it
[08:35] <talcite> EnvoyRising, err btw, will this get overwritten every time I update the kernel?
[08:35] <Gregmond> talcite: look for the default = 0 line. change the number to item you want to boot as default.. normally about 4
[08:35] <EnvoyRising> hw00djohn: advice for?
[08:35] <hw00djohn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56591/
[08:35] <bazhang> that page is not loading hw00djohn; just a moment
[08:35] <hw00djohn> okay..thanks
[08:35] <talcite> ohh
[08:35] <ccube> but i didnt know what to do and ignored it
[08:36] <talcite> thanks
[08:36] <ccube> now i dont know how to get in that menu
[08:36] <ccube> or where the config file is
[08:36] <EnvoyRising> talcite: every time you update the kernel you'll have to change your boot menu anyways to reflect the correct kernel
[08:36] <ccube> :(
[08:36] <EnvoyRising> or is there some tool i don't know about that auto generates it for you?
[08:36] <spdf> talcite: Or, you could make it "default saved"
[08:37] <inertial> how can i use the vga output port on my laptop in ubuntu?
[08:37] <talcite> EnvoyRising, it autogens it for you =P
[08:37] <bazhang> EnvoyRising: it is incorporated in a new list
[08:37] <EnvoyRising> well f***. i'm so used to doing things  by hand, ala gentoo, sourcemage, etc
[08:37] <PolitikerALT> Is it possible to install .debs locally (without root priviliges)
[08:38] <wehttam1> my applications are opening inder wine by default. normal executable file open by default under wine. how can i change them back to open as an application?
[08:38] <bazhang> hw00djohn: I cannot get that page to load at all ;[
[08:38] <inertial> i had it working with xrandr before but i can't remember the commands and it's 40 degrees C here...
[08:38] <amerio> does anybody here know how to set a shared folder in virtualbox , ubuntu as host and xp as guest?
[08:38] <hw00djohn> bazhang, is it okay if i paste the text i got from the terminal to u in a PM?
[08:38] <bazhang> hw00djohn: if you could briefly outline what the error is here..
[08:38] <talcite> oh wait... the menu.lst default option starts counting at 0 =D
[08:38] <ajushi> hi, i've installed tomcat5.5 and i started it by /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 start but whenever i try to nmap my box it doesn't show.i wonder if its really running.i can't seem to access it...how do i fix it?
[08:38] <talcite> hmm default saved might work better
[08:38] <talcite> if it updates the number of kernels will change
[08:39] <EnvoyRising> btw, hw00djohn, i think you need to enable some more repos in order to install that package
[08:39] <wehttam1> my applications are opening inder wine by default. normal executable file open by default under wine. how can i change them back to open as an application?
[08:39] <spdf> talcite: And add "savedefault" to the windows boot portion
[08:39] <amerio> does anybody here know how to set a shared folder in virtualbox , ubuntu as host and xp as guest?
[08:39] <EnvoyRising> wehttam1: right click open with
[08:39] <bazhang> hw00djohn: best to just briefly describe it here--do you have the restricted repo enabled in synaptic?
[08:40] <Gregmond> talcite: there is another setting to limit the number of kernals listed. just can't htink of it off the top of my head
[08:40] <EnvoyRising> wehttam1: right click > properties > open with
[08:40] <hw00djohn> bazhang: package nvidia-glx-new is not available but is referred to by another package.  The package may be missing, obsoleted or is only avail from another source. "E: Package nvidia-glx-new has no installation candidate"
[08:40] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: yea but how can i make it open with itself. its an standard application
[08:40] <talcite> Gregmond, yup, there is
[08:40] <talcite> Gregmond, I just used the save default thingy
[08:40] <talcite> it's pretty convenient
[08:40] <EnvoyRising> go where i said and try deleting wine from that list
[08:41] <wehttam1> ok
[08:41] <Gregmond> talcite: cool.. many ways to skin a ubuntu box :)
[08:41] <santu> hello friends i am having problems installing ubuntu7.10 in my new desktop machine athlon Jetway 692 GDG 64 bot processor can anyone help me out?
[08:41] <EnvoyRising> i won't say wine is satan, but it has certainly caused more trouble than native apps, lol
[08:41] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: it wont let me delete wine from the list
[08:41] <hw00djohn> bazhang: how do i enable restricted repo in synaptic?
[08:41] <bazhang> hw00djohn: do you have the restricted manager?
[08:42] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: this is an native app
[08:43] <EnvoyRising> native app with what extension? or is it just something thats in /usr/* ?
[08:43] <hw00djohn> i do have it...when i try to enable the driver, this is the error i get.  "The software source for the package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled."
[08:43] <EnvoyRising> did you try the right click > open with another program > custom?
[08:43] <interceptor> !ru
[08:43] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[08:43] <EnvoyRising> that way you can specify itself
[08:43] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: its an native app with no extention in my home directory
[08:43] <interceptor> бля
[08:43] <interceptor> алло
[08:43] <interceptor> !ru
[08:43] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[08:44] <EnvoyRising> whats the the app wehttam1?
[08:44] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: i cant have custom blank. is there any comand i can put in there
[08:44] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: gtkThemeMod, but its happening with all apps
[08:44] <EnvoyRising> wehttam1: just put the location of the file... or is that going to make wine launch again
[08:45] <bullgard4> Where are all the different memories defined that are listed in /proc/meminfo?
[08:45] <bazhang> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable in the terminal hw00djohn if it is installed; if not you need to enable the restricted repo and then install it
[08:45] <santu> hello friends i am having problems installing ubuntu7.10 in my new desktop machine athlon Jetway 692 GDG 64 bot processor can anyone help me out?
[08:45] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: it opens fine under the terminal or a run dialog but not from nautilus
[08:45] <EnvoyRising> i see. lemme try some stuff out. since i've never had the problem myself
[08:45] <bazhang> hw00djohn: once you have enabled it, you need to refresh (reload) your sources list then install it
[08:46] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: ok thank, it used to work fine
[08:46] <EnvoyRising> wehttam1: actually, try sudo nautilus from the command line and try removing it from the list again..wine that is
[08:46] <ere4si> how much dard disk space does the server edition need?
[08:46] <EnvoyRising> mean while i'm going to play with some stuff and see what else i can come up with
[08:47] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: ok
[08:47] <hw00djohn> bazhang: got it, thanks so much!
[08:47] <peto> who can help with kubuntu
[08:47] <peto> please
[08:48] <bazhang> hw00djohn: no in the terminal sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:48] <bazhang> #kubuntu peto
[08:48] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: i still cant remove it
[08:49] <peto> can you help?
[08:49] <bazhang> ere4si: #ubuntu-server will have the best answer for that
[08:49] <tekde1>  i am using ubuntu and i am wanting to execute some php code via the command line... how do i make it so i can call php from any dir in the console?
[08:49] <bazhang> !kubuntu | peto
[08:49] <ubotu> peto: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[08:49] <ere4si> thks bazhang
[08:49] <bazhang> np
[08:49] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: oh i just found in the readme its an mono app. i have to run it under mono so wine is probably detecting it as an exe in the file header or something
[08:50] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: Thanks for the help anyway
[08:50] <peto> i know this already, but i got a problem with my graphic card
[08:50] <EnvoyRising> wehttam1: good you found it. i don't run any mono apps so i wouldnt' have found it
[08:50] <bazhang> peto what is the problem
[08:50] <EnvoyRising> did find a semi related bug though :P
[08:50] <peto> i dont know how to install it
[08:51] <wehttam1> EnvoyRising: i dont normally run mono apps either, i now have to install the mono runtime to run it
[08:51] <bazhang> peto the card or the drivers?
[08:51] <peto> drivers probably
[08:51] <bazhang> heh
[08:51] <peto> i got 8800 gts
[08:51] <EnvoyRising> i avoided the plague dodging c#, no way i was gonna mess with mono too, lol
[08:51] <inertial> how do i use the vga out on my laptop?
[08:52] <hw00djohn> bazhang: thanks for all the help...should have compiz up and running soon
[08:52] <peto> bazhang i am in kubuntu now and i would like to try beryl, but i need to install drivers first
[08:52] <bazhang> hw00djohn: they have a channel for that #compiz-fusion though in a pinch we can help here ;]
[08:53] <bazhang> peto this is gutsy or feisty? beryl is now #compiz
[08:53] <hw00djohn> thanks!
[08:53] <peto> its gutsy
[08:53] <EnvoyRising> inertial: try installing nvidia-settings
[08:54] <inertial> EnvoyRising: not using nvidia
[08:54] <EnvoyRising> thats what i used to get my vga out working on my 860m gs
[08:54] <jeebs> anyone notice a bug with the calculator that xubuntu has?
[08:54] <inertial> EnvoyRising: it's an intel chip
[08:54] <EnvoyRising> oh, i thought u were using an 88...oh, that was peto, lol
[08:54] <bazhang> peto then download and install the drivers for your card--do you see them in the restricted manager?
[08:54] <inertial> EnvoyRising: i had it working with xrandr before my encrypted hard disk died
[08:54] <inertial> EnvoyRising: now i lost the shell sript i had
[08:54] <vinay_> How to access the built in IRC client in Opera???
[08:54] <inertial> EnvoyRising: and it's 40 degrees here and i'm about ready to put my fist through my monitor
[08:55] <peto> bazhang how can i check?
[08:55] <EnvoyRising> inertial: lol. i hear ya
[08:55] <EnvoyRising> trying to remember where that thread was for this topic inertial covered all cards
[08:55] <bazhang> peto you willing to do a little reading on this to know it better?
[08:55] <peto> i tried to install already but then i cant go back after restart to system
[08:56] <bazhang> peto you tried to install how
[08:56] <Master_Frag> I tryed what you said about 20 times over...each time I get an empty file
[08:56] <fuffalo> where's a good site for ubuntu themes (preferably ones for beryl/compiz)?
[08:56] <EnvoyRising> inertial: you can try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[08:56] <bazhang> gnome-look.org fuffalo
[08:56] <peto> i was following manuals from forum
[08:56] <peto> you want to check
[08:57] <inertial> thanks EnvoyRising
[08:57] <bazhang> peto that does not answer my question--how did you install the drivers? if you really want help you need to give better info here
[08:57] <Slart> jeebs: what bug?
[08:57] <peto> ok i found manual in forum
[08:58] <bazhang> peto that is not an answer
[08:58] <jeebs> to me its calculation is off on percentage
[08:58] <peto> first thing they said i need to change a sources list
[08:58] <Slart> jeebs: how is it off?
[08:58] <EnvoyRising> i think maybe i have the channel wrong, where's the gamer channel
[08:58] <EnvoyRising> i thought it was linux-gamers.net
[08:58] <peto> than i was following commands
[08:59] <bazhang> peto you installed from the repos or from nvidia's site?
[08:59] <jeebs> like 300-22%=288 when it should equal something else
[08:59] <bazhang> peto please answer that question first
[08:59] <coolbhavi> Hello
[08:59] <fouad> Hi , I created a tap1 interface in ubuntu and I'm not able to ping the gateway with that interface ... any idea why ?
[08:59] <peto> from repos
[08:59] <fouad> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[08:59] <fouad> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 br0
[08:59] <fouad> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 tap1
[08:59] <fouad> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 br0
[08:59] <chazco_> Hi... im having trouble with my desktop PC. It keeps slowing down, then things either crash or wont start. I'm trying to do a backup, but it copies a few filkes to my USB device then dies. Any ideas?
[08:59] <coolbhavi> How to get recognised as a Ubuntu Member in the forums?
[08:59] <MiVo> still having gstreamer-properties problems, any suggestions ?
[09:00] <peto> bazhang please if you dont mind check this web http://www.wiki.kubuntu.sk/doku.php/kubuntu:navody:zaciname_s_kubuntu:nvidia
[09:00] <EnvoyRising> coolbhavi: register? i know that seems way obvious, but i'm not seeing the complexity of your question if in fact it exists
[09:01] <coolbhavi> I have registered
[09:01] <jeebs> slart, err...looks like its taking percentages and turning it into a decimal and subtracting by that
[09:01] <clocKwize> hi guys, I've installed ubuntu and restarted, but it doesn't boot into grub, just sits there, if i put the ubuntu cd in and select boot from first hard disk it brings up grub then loads but why would it do this?
[09:01] <coolbhavi> I am an ubuntu member
[09:01] <Slart> jeebs: it's the same in the calculator in gnome.. the percentage thingy just divides by 100.. I don't really know what it's supposed to be good for
[09:01] <fuffalo> bazhang, I installed a theme from gnome-look.org but i don't know what to do with the file..when i double click it it says it's the wrong archive manager
[09:01] <bazhang> coolbhavi: you mean to have the @ubuntu.com address? you need to make a significant contribution to ubuntu for that I am afraid ;]
[09:01] <EnvoyRising> coolbhavi: then you should be able to enter after confirming through email
[09:01] <chazco_> And now its done the exact same thing :( Is my data toast?
[09:01] <coolbhavi> yes
[09:02] <EnvoyRising> then exactly what is the problem coolbhavi
[09:02] <EnvoyRising> ?*
[09:02] <jeebs> so essentially its a known annoyance and i should use another calc slart?
[09:02] <hub_> i can't compile my gtk app. I have libgtk dev installed. But in my hello world Programm makes error :  gtk.h: No such file or directory ? I look in the /usr/include Order and i see only gtk-1.2 Order but who is gtk.h begin of rthe include order ?
[09:02] <Slart> jeebs: what you should do it learn to use percentages without that key =).. I get the same result in qualculate, speedcrunch and the regular calculator
[09:03] <hub_> wat is the Command ?
[09:03] <chazco_> Is there any way to get data from the desktop PC to this one? Copying to a USB HDD doesnt appear to work
[09:03] <EnvoyRising> how much data chazco_?
[09:04] <peto> bazhang are you still here?
[09:04] <chazco_> Overall? Approx 100GB, right now, i'd settle for ~200MB of important stuff
[09:04] <chazco_> I'm not trying to copy it all at once btw
[09:04] <bazhang> peto sorry having some browser issues and cant get to that link
[09:04] <hub_> where is the channel of Programming gtk ?
[09:04] <jeebs> slart: i know, just being able to use it has spoiled me ;-)
[09:05] <peto> so what is your advice?
[09:05] <EnvoyRising> chazco_: do you have a router?
[09:05] <chazco_> Yep
[09:06] <Slart> jeebs: hehe.. can't help you with that.. it seems all the calculators handle the percentage sign the same way
[09:06] <EnvoyRising> if usb isn't working, why not set up your desktop as a file server with ftp access?
[09:06] <chazco_> The desktop is struggling to do just about anything... installing stuff would probably finish it off
[09:06] <EnvoyRising> then download from the other computer
[09:06] <chazco_> I'm starting to suspect its a HDD fault
[09:06] <EnvoyRising> chazco_: lmao. understood
[09:07] <alexw> how would i find my wireless cards driver name
[09:07] <alexw> e.g. madwifi
[09:07] <chazco_> If i cant get this to work i'll try it though
[09:07] <alexw> but for my card
[09:07] <chazco_> Would Samba or the linux system work best for these files?
[09:07] <EnvoyRising> alexw: lspci
[09:07] <Liono> whats wrong = glxinfo | grep direct
[09:07] <Liono> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[09:07] <Liono> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:07] <Liono> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:08] <EnvoyRising> not sure. not a home network guy.. work has one and i absolutely hate it
[09:08] <alexw> ok 01:04.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
[09:08] <alexw> so im assuming its RT2561
[09:08] <EnvoyRising> i guess lan would be better word than home, huh?
[09:08] <chazco_> Nope... its crashed again :(
[09:08] <EnvoyRising> chazco_: could you burn the data to dvds or something?
[09:08] <ngoato> hi, back again
[09:08] <chazco_> Nope, thats not working either :(
[09:09] <chazco_> I try to make a DVD and the computer just stops
[09:09] <EnvoyRising> what os is running on it?
[09:09] <chazco_> Gusty
[09:09] <EnvoyRising> try dsl or something not so resource hungry
[09:09] <chazco_> Ran fine for ages though
[09:09] <achandrashekar> Hello has anyone figured out a workaround for the libnss issue that is causing issues in Gusty for ldap?
[09:09] <MortezaJS> !seen nicrud
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen nicrud - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <chazco_> Trying recovery mode
[09:10] <EnvoyRising> chazco_: oh. well i haven't the slightest clue :|
[09:10] <bazhang> chazco_: sounds like it may be a hardware issue--you might try a rescue cd at this point
[09:10] <MortezaJS> !seen nikrud
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen nikrud - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <alexw> how do i find the actuall driver name
[09:10] <chazco_> Recovering journal (again)
[09:10] <EnvoyRising> are there any eye candy de/wm other than e17/gnome/kde?
[09:10] <Demon4AReson> haha bot owner has homour :)
[09:10] <alexw> I get a listing of 01:04.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
[09:11] <Romsan> Славяне есть здесь?
[09:11] <clocKwize> is this correct? when i mount my boot partition, and cd to it, it is the same as my root partition?
[09:11] <EnvoyRising> !ru
[09:11] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:11] <danisahne> sbin/udevmonitor not found  - in which package is this?
[09:11] <EnvoyRising> clocKwize: boot should be mounted to /boot, not /
[09:11] <Romsan> ok
[09:11] <bazhang> EnvoyRising: there are a ton--fluxbox xfce and others as well
[09:12] <EnvoyRising> bazhang: fluxbox isn't exactly eyecandy, lol
[09:12] <clocKwize> EnvoyRising: i know - i'm mount it to /boot/ and when i ls the contents, its the same as in /
[09:12] <Veterini> -empires.org
[09:12] <Veterini> lol
[09:12] <EnvoyRising> not /boot/ just /boot
[09:12] <EnvoyRising> clocKwize: anyways, thats def wrong
[09:12] <EnvoyRising> you do mount root before you mount boot right?
[09:13] <clocKwize> yes
[09:13] <clocKwize> root is already mounted
[09:13] <Master_Frag> Would you happen to know a way to force a certain video card...
[09:13] <Master_Frag> Xorg doesnt pick up my FX5200 at all
[09:13] <jeebs> glanced at chat and for a second i thought you guys were reciting a horrible dr. seuse book
[09:14] <Master_Frag> all it picks up it the integrated chip
[09:14] <coolbhavi> EnvoyRising : Ubuntu Members and developers get a different image in the forums as Ubuntu Members and developers ref: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=11472
[09:14] <clocKwize> EnvoyRising: http://pastebin.com/m1055103b
[09:14] <chazco_> Nope, failed in recovery mode as well
[09:14] <clocKwize> boot contains the boot stuff until i mount the boot partition
[09:15] <clocKwize> this makes me think that grub etc was installed without mounting boot (which is my why grub won't load unless i boot with the ubuntu cd in and select boot from first hd)
[09:15] <EnvoyRising> coolbhavi: oooooh. i didn't know that
[09:15] <clocKwize> but i'm a semi-noob and could be wrong =]
[09:17] <EnvoyRising> clocKwize: you typed "cd boot" not "cd /boot" so you would still be showing contents of /...
[09:17] <chazco_> Now i think the USB drives been corrupted too :(
[09:17] <EnvoyRising> so cd /boot then ls or ls /boot will show you contents of boot as opposed to contents of root
[09:17] <chazco_> Trying to fsck it on this machine, its jammed at 27%
[09:18] <clocKwize> EnvoyRising: shows same thing
[09:18] <clocKwize> contents of room
[09:18] <bazhang> back in a bit..
[09:18] <clocKwize> root*
[09:18] <EnvoyRising> ls /boot shows the same thing clocKwize?
[09:18] <clocKwize> yeh
[09:18] <EnvoyRising> how many partitions you have clock?
[09:19] <EnvoyRising> btw, is holding backspace supposed to delete more than one character in here? its not...
[09:19] <clocKwize> sda has sda1(boot), sda2(root) and sda5(swap) - sdb has sdb1(ntfs/xp)
[09:20] <Master_Frag> I guess i need to repeat myself :/
[09:20] <chazco_> EnvoyRising - Installed NFS and shared the folder, how do I access it?
[09:20] <Master_Frag> Would anyone happen to know a way to force a certain video card...
[09:20] <EnvoyRising> i'm not sure then clocKwize i'm stumped
[09:20] <alexw> is wmaster0 used for broadcasting networks
[09:20] <EnvoyRising> places > network, i think
[09:20] <EnvoyRising> brb
[09:20] <Master_Frag> cause xorg doesnt even find my PCI card
[09:20] <Master_Frag> Only the integrated card
[09:22] <alexw> what is wmaster0?
[09:23] <Liono> glxinfo | grep direct
[09:23] <Liono> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[09:23] <Liono> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:23] <Liono> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:23] <EnvoyRising> there we go.. much better
[09:23] <knifepoint> is it possible for me to remove a dpkg diversion?
[09:23] <EnvoyRising> ok, where were we?
[09:23] <knifepoint> freaking ati fglrx drivers are still giving me grief even after i buy an nvidia card
[09:23] <EnvoyRising> knifepoint: lol... how?
[09:25] <knifepoint> just getting the code ill paste it in a sec
[09:25] <hw00djohn> hey, i just got compiz working and i hit ALT + f10 which slows down animations...any idea how to speed them back up?
[09:25] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56593/
[09:26] <Master_Frag> I guess I repeat myself a third time :x
[09:26] <reemyrobby> Hi!!!
[09:26] <Master_Frag> Would anyone happen to know a way to force a certain video card...
[09:26] <Master_Frag> cause xorg doesnt even find my PCI FX5200
[09:26] <reemyrobby> @Master_Frag Also helping about that. Me to
[09:26] <EnvoyRising> Master_Frag: i heard you the first time, i just don't know how.. i suppose you could comment them out of your xorg.conf file
[09:26] <Master_Frag> Only the integrated card
[09:26] <vinay_> If you IRC, What IRC channels are you regularly found at?
[09:26] <vinay_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4360321&posted=1#post4360321
[09:27] <vinay_> hi wes
[09:27] <reemyrobby> What other channels can i get in?
[09:27] <sarah> 192.168.1.1 in my browser doenst bring up router config.... how should i find it?
[09:27] <EnvoyRising> knifepoint: what command is that from? dpkg?
[09:27] <Master_Frag> This only seems to happen in Ubuntu and Ubuntu dirivitives
[09:27] <Liono_> can any one help me with drm. its no enabled for my vga...?
[09:27] <vinay_> #kubuntu #kubuntu-devel #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu-bugs #ubuntu-us-ne  #ubuntuforums
[09:27] <alexw> i have a D-Link G510
[09:28] <alexw> but linux keeps recognising it as the wrong driver
[09:28] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: aptitude (sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx)
[09:28] <alexw> it works but the card is specified to be a atheros card
[09:28] <vinay_> [macogw] #ubuntu-nyc #ubucon #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu+1 #cnerdc @#ubuntu-us-ne #ubuntuforums @#nuubuntuteam
[09:28] <vinay_> ^freenode
[09:28] <vinay_> or on irc.linuxchix.org #linuxchix
[09:28] <Master_Frag> and I'd really prefer using Xubuntu...ratehr than a distro that isn't as..user friendly
[09:28] <EnvoyRising> oh ok. what about a plain apt-get..what does that yield?
[09:28] <hw00djohn> anyone know how to speed up animations in Compiz?  I accidentally hit ALT+F10
[09:28] <alexw> in lspci it says 01:04.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
[09:28] <EnvoyRising> not sure hw00djohn just a sec
[09:29] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: same error
[09:29] <rinaldi_> hi, i restarted ubuntu ealier doing ctl-alt-backspace and then restarting because it crashed. since then, sound doesn't work and the only sound i get is a crackly sound from wine apps. any ideas?
[09:30] <EnvoyRising> knifepoint: did you uninstall all glx related packages?
[09:30] <EnvoyRising> hw00djohn: http://computerbits.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/compiz-key-combinations-list/
[09:30] <myrddin> buh?  why is 'ls' ignoring leading '_' characters when sorting filenames during an ls?
[09:30] <myrddin> how do I make it stop that?
[09:30] <EnvoyRising> if there isn'ta command to speed them up again there, try pressing the buttons that slowed them down (could be a toggle)
[09:30] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: None are installed. The fglrx drivers were removed but it seems they left a few things behind
[09:31] <rinaldi_> and i've checked all my connections too...
[09:31] <EnvoyRising> apt-get autoremove should get red of the things left behind if i remember correctly
[09:31] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: hey, i'm still working on my hard drive, but i think i have a clue, it may be that my raid device /dev/md0 is trying to load before the /dev/hd* devices, in that case, it would kind of make sense why the whole thing would fall apart, i think i need to force them to mount in a consistent order
[09:31] <hw00djohn> thanks for the help envoyrising
[09:31] <chazco> EnvoyRising - Its working... provided I copy a max of about 5 files in one go
[09:31] <myrddin> cafuego: I want to see "_cFoo _gfoo aaa zzz" *not* "aaa _cFoo _gfoo zzz"
[09:32] <EnvoyRising> np hw00djohn
[09:32] <EnvoyRising> chazco: good to here
[09:32] <Master_Frag> Well, Thanks anyway...I guess i'll have to use a different distro till I build a new rig :(
[09:32] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: Didnt do anything
[09:32] <EnvoyRising> tickbee: doesn't fstab have a mechanism for specifying boot order? or where is that set at?
[09:32] <myrddin> oops.  stupid nick complete
[09:33] <myrddin> I want ls want to show me "_cFoo _gfoo aaa zzz" *not* "aaa _cFoo _gfoo zzz".  how do I return 'ls' to sane behavior?
[09:33] <Master_Frag> It's a really pitty cause all of the ones I like so far are mainly Ubuntu dirivitives
[09:33] <nanobytes> hello am in the installation, and i can access my recently installed xubuntu with grub error 18... what do i do to eliminate that error 18? what do i have changed in menu.lst setting?
[09:33] <EnvoyRising> knifepoint: just a sec
[09:33] <chazco> I noticed before that if i left Nautilus open in a folder with a lot of MP3s it would eventually stop displaying the icons when they were clicked, wouldnt show them at all after a refresh. Killall nautilus used to fix it. Does this point to any particular problem?
[09:33] <Master_Frag> ral*
[09:33] <EnvoyRising> gimme the error link again knifepoint
[09:33] <Master_Frag> real**
[09:33] <nanobytes> hello am in the installation mode from booted from cd, and i can access my recently installed xubuntu with grub error 18... what do i do to eliminate that error 18? what do i have changed in menu.lst setting?
[09:34] <chazco> Currently running a recursive diff on two directory trees over 200GB big (i think), will take a while I guess
[09:34] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: i think so, what i was doing though was letting ubuntu automagically detect/mount those hard drives, the only device i was specifically mounting was my /dev/md0
[09:34] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56593/
[09:34] <tickbee> EnvoyRising: I would think, it would load the fstab line by line and load them implicity as such, think that's what i'll try
[09:35] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: im trying to uninstall the ati drivers with envy then ill try installing the nvidia ones hopefully it might fix it
[09:36] <spitz> anyidea how to debug "init: Caught segmentation fault, core dumped" problem on 7.10 server ? I can't do shutdown -h now, nor reboot
[09:37] <EnvoyRising> knifepoint: god/ala/linus willing it will
[09:37] <Liono_> i have    (II) I810(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (8, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied   probelm.. what can i do?
[09:37] <chazco> Its not going to like this... copying a file that itself is over a gigabyte
[09:37] <chazco> And... it crashed
[09:37] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: looks like it did the trick ill give it a reatart and see how it goes thanks fr the help mate
[09:37] <myrddin> this is ridiculous.  do I really need to find an old version of ls to get it to show files in proper alphabetical order?
[09:37] <Slart> myrddin: I think ls uses some kind of translation to sort stuff according to local.. ie in sweden we have to take care of the letters å,ä and ö in that order.. so.. this localized sorting ignores underscores, hash signs etc. I don't know how to fix it .. perhaps you'll find a wayu
[09:38] <EnvoyRising> knifepoint: i was just going to say doing a purge would have worked too, lol
[09:38] <EnvoyRising> as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148419
[09:38] <myrddin> hmm
[09:38] <knifepoint> EnvoyRising: i did do a purge still didnt seem to help
[09:39] <EnvoyRising> ah, well at least envy seems to have done the job
[09:39] <chazco> Going to uninstall if i manage to get this backed up :( Cant risk this happening again
[09:39] <thanhhoalovely> hi
[09:39] <chazco> Trying the live CD, but that takes a lot of configuration to get encrypted drives to wokr
[09:39] <thanhhoalovely> can u tell me more
[09:39] <danisahne> somebody else gets this error after upgrading to xen 3.2?
[09:39] <danisahne> Error: Device 2049 (vbd) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working.
[09:40] <fuffalo> if i'm looking for a launcher (like the macosx bottom bar) - what's the most common gnome one to use?
[09:40] <thanhhoalovely> hic
[09:40] <thanhhoalovely> where are you
[09:40] <EnvoyRising> fuffalo: avant window navigator
[09:40] <myrddin> ahhhh. yes.
[09:41] <EnvoyRising> its a bit buggy though, you could also set the gnome panel not to extend
[09:41] <myrddin> export LC_COLLATE=C ls
[09:41] <myrddin> that fixes it
[09:42] <fuffalo> EnvoyRising, I just installed that and have it running, but when i right click and go to preferences, it doesn't seem to do anything
[09:42] <fdsajfdjk> What kernel does Hardy use?
[09:43] <EnvoyRising> shoot, i can't really help fuffalo, because i don't have it installed.
[09:43] <Smegzor> I have ubuntu 64bit.  How do I install KDE4?  I can't do it from the repo due to missing dependencies.
[09:43] <saiy_> hello
[09:43] <fuffalo> hmmm darn
[09:43] <steven__> hi people,, im starting to fight a losing battle with my kids, they insist that i get the webcam and printer working, otherwise they are going to reinstall win
[09:44] <Liono_> i have    (II) I810(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (8, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied   probelm.. what can i do
[09:44] <soulburner> steven, buy some cheap machines off ebay
[09:44] <soulburner> problem solved!
[09:44] <spitz> or look for solution on the web
[09:45] <EnvoyRising> steven_ kopete has webcam support
[09:45] <ntemis> hello
[09:45] <EnvoyRising> never had probs with a printer
[09:45] <Slart> steven__: what kind of webcam? and what kind of printer?
[09:45] <hotlildude619> can any one tell me how to install ubuntu from the usb stick
[09:45] <Slart> steven__: and most importantly.. what kind of kids? =)
[09:45] <spitz> check the wiki about the usb stick
[09:45] <saiy_> hello everyone
[09:45] <ntemis> how i do an extract here for multiple  zip files and the xarchive dont make folders of them?
[09:46] <steven__> give me the names of a cam and printer that work straight away plug and play with ubuntu
[09:46] <hotlildude619> i did not get u spitz
[09:46] <ntemis> i want the files on the root folder
[09:46] <ntemis> is there a way?
[09:46] <steven__> anything is better than going microdoof
[09:46] <Slart> ntemis: you'll have to do some bash magic
[09:46] <EnvoyRising> logitech cams work out of the box.. and my hp printer worked out of the box
[09:46] <Slart> EnvoyRising,
[09:46] <spitz> in the ubuntu wiki the process of creating the usb stick is described
[09:46] <Slart> EnvoyRising, Steven__ : avoid the logitech ultra vision
[09:46] <EnvoyRising> Slart: yes?
[09:46] <hotlildude619> ok thanks
[09:47] <hotlildude619> i ll try
[09:47] <EnvoyRising> Slart: well my logitech quick cam worked fine
[09:47] <ntemis> slart explain
[09:47] <ntemis> please
[09:47] <chazco> Same problem on the live CD
[09:47] <Slart> EnvoyRising: some work.. the ultra vision doesn't.. believe me.. I have one as a desk ornament atm =)
[09:47] <ntemis> or is there a way to open all my files with 7zip or winrar wine emu?
[09:48] <EnvoyRising> Slart: what do you mean some work? i just plugged mine in and it worked
[09:48] <bsdnewb07> guys, im just installing ubuntu - but it dosent ask me to set a root password it just asks me to setup an account for none administrative purposes
[09:48] <Slart> ntemis: you'll have to do something like this.. for a in $(ls); do unzip $a; done
[09:48] <bsdnewb07> so how do i log in as root lol
[09:48] <EnvoyRising> then, this was on 6.06 a while back. now i use the built in cam on my hp 9000
[09:48] <EnvoyRising> dv9000*
[09:48] <soulburner> bsdnewb07,  sudo su
[09:48] <soulburner> and use your account password
[09:48] <EnvoyRising> bsdnewb07: you can't. you can sudo though
[09:48] <bsdnewb07> soulburner: but what is the root password
[09:48] <Slart> EnvoyRising: some webcams from logitech work.. others don't.. depending on model etc
[09:48] <Gothfunc> for me, gxine opens halfway off the screen at the bottom right, and with totem i can't seem to change the keybindings.  does anyone know how to fix either of these issues?
[09:48] <soulburner> its your acct passwordl
[09:48] <bsdnewb07> oohhhh
[09:48] <EnvoyRising> Slart: that i'll agree to
[09:48] <bsdnewb07> ahh cool cool
[09:49] <steven__> i have logitech quickcam 9.5 and it doesnt work
[09:49] <EnvoyRising> isn't there a masterlist of good cams somewhere..seem to remember seeing it
[09:49] <ntemis> so on console unzip -a *.*?
[09:49] <ntemis> correct
[09:49] <bsdnewb07> so will ubuntu add my username i created 'shellhosting' into the sudoers file by default?
[09:49] <Slart> ntemis: no.. I just told you what to write
[09:49] <hotlildude619> how can we install ubuntu from one system to another which are connected in a network
[09:49] <fuffalo> is there any reason why when i reboot my ubuntu install it flashes some weird colors and then won't reboot?  I've got to shut the power completely off and then power it back on to boot up
[09:49] <waini> i need some dummy help with alsa and my nforce2 5.1 soundcard
[09:50] <ntemis> write me down more clearly please
[09:50] <EnvoyRising> steven_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[09:50] <ntemis> exactly the command
[09:50] <Slart> ntemis: write this  --->     for a in $(ls); do unzip $a; done
[09:50] <Gothfunc> anyone know where i can get help creating gxine startup scripts?
[09:50] <Cosmo> speaking of winblows, I'm am having to reinstall it but I run a dual boot, what do I need to do to restore the grub after I reinstall winblows without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:51] <waini> anyone volontary?
[09:51] <steven__> my printer is a lexmark X1290 all in one the printer was found and it says ready but when i want to print nothing happens
[09:51] <ntemis> ok let me try it
[09:51] <bullgard4> hotlildude619: Itz depends on your hardware facilities and Internet access what method is optimum. Is your second computer exactly the same as the first?
[09:51] <icesword> dualboot | Cosmo
[09:51] <icesword> !dualboot | Cosmo
[09:51] <Slart> ntemis: it's possible that unzip handles wildcards better than unrar.. I had to do that for multiple rars
[09:51] <ubotu> Cosmo: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:52] <hotlildude619> yes bullgard4
[09:53] <icesword> hotlildude619, is your network speed fast and stable
[09:53] <EnvoyRising> steven_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714
[09:53] <Waffle__> i want to learn some basic programing, what would be a good way for me to do this? is there a good program for it?
[09:53] <EnvoyRising> Waffle__: hacketyhack is worth a go
[09:54] <ntemis> slart it works
[09:54] <Gothfunc> anyone?
[09:54] <ntemis> thanks
[09:54] <wers> how do I remove recurring buddy pounces in pidgin? :)
[09:54] <ntemis> a lot
[09:54] <ntemis> :)
[09:54] <Gothfunc> xine homepage is useless
[09:54] <Slart> ntemis: you're welcome
[09:54] <kst> !mouse | kst
[09:54] <ntemis> but is very advance to find it out my self
[09:54] <Gothfunc> google doesn't seem to say much either
[09:54] <ntemis> is there a more easy way
[09:55] <ntemis> so i can tell others
[09:55] <Slart> ntemis: did you try the unzip *.zip thingy? perhaps it works?
[09:55] <Demon4AReson> hehe
[09:55] <ntemis> i have 7zip winrar for windows installed
[09:55] <ntemis> can i use any of them?
[09:56] <icesword> sure
[09:56] <Demon4AReson> 7zip
[09:56] <ntemis> how
[09:56] <Cosmo> icesword that doesnt really help, I have ubuntu already installed and windows, but I am going to have to reinstall windows which will mess up the grub just need to know how to restore the grub once I have done the reinstall so that it shows both my existing install of ubuntu and windows
[09:56] <Slart> ntemis: 7zip is available in ubuntu.. haven't used it myself though
[09:56] <bullgard4> hotlildude619: One possible solution is to install Ubuntu on the second computer from CD and then copy the /home, /etc/ and /var directoriesfrom the first to the second computer.
[09:56] <Demon4AReson> lft lick zip>7zip ???
[09:56] <testing> Cosmo, use livecd do a grub-install /dev/???
[09:56] <ntemis> i cannot find it anywhere
[09:56] <Gothfunc> can anyone recommend a better media player than xine?
[09:57] <Demon4AReson> sorry not had me coffee :p
[09:57] <icesword> Cosmo, do you want mbr be grub or windows
[09:57] <ntemis> where is 7zip i dont have it on my programs
[09:57] <Cosmo> icesword grub
[09:57] <Slart> Gothfunc: vlc
[09:57] <Gothfunc> vlc isn't great
[09:57] <icesword> !grub
[09:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:57] <kst> ntemis maybe it's not an own application but just adds the support to file-roller? i'm not sure..
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[09:57] <icesword> Cosmo, did u see that
[09:57] <Cosmo> perfect thanks icesword
[09:58] <Gothfunc> i'll take a look hk2999
[09:58] <ntemis> when i right 7z /? on console is there
[09:58] <hk2999> can windows' boot manager run ubuntu?
[09:58] <Gothfunc> hk2999: that looks like a jukebox rather than a media player :)
[09:59] <geoaxis> hello can any one recommend a web based email client
[09:59] <geoaxis> using MailDir
[09:59] <hk2999> well it does play media
[09:59] <Slart> hk2999: windows boot manager only runs microsoft systems.. of course =)
[09:59] <hk2999> or how about vlc?
[09:59] <newusr> sound is gone here any help !
[09:59] <bullgard4> Gothfunc: VLC is a good media player.
[10:00] <steven__> so people im gone thanks for trying to help, bye for now
[10:00] <sarah87> hi i just installed ubuntu, and it says "network cable unplugged"; but its plugged in
[10:00] <icesword> !ms-sys
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms-sys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <Slart> newusr: find the cable running from the speakers.. plug it into your soundcard's speaker port
[10:00] <icesword> !info ms-sys
[10:00] <ubotu> ms-sys (source: ms-sys): Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:00] <Waffle__> i cant get hacketyhack to install
[10:00] <newusr> hehe Slart its a laptop
[10:01] <Gothfunc> hk2999, bullgard4: i don't much like vlc.  none of the configurables seem to be in sensible places unless you're probably an expert
[10:02] <Slart> newusr: turn the laptop on?  (I've got tons of useless advice as long as you don't give more info)
[10:02] <nanobytes> where i can find the boot partition?
[10:03] <icesword> you never find it yourself
[10:03] <icesword> nanobytes, what do you want
[10:03] <newusr> well the sound vanished after updating my nvidia, X was dead then i used the rest. drivers and its fine now done something in xorg.conf as well
[10:04] <hotlildude661199> icesword:yes my network is good and stable
[10:04] <newusr> sudo asoundconf list "Intel"
[10:04] <Slart> newusr: start with this.. what operating system are you running, what version, 64bit or 32bit. What hardware is it running on.. as much info as possible. Did the sound stop working (as in it worked yesterday) or has the sound never worked?. Are there any error messages during bootup or in the logs? what have you tried so far? what did you find when you tried googling for your problem?
[10:04] <nanobytes> icesword: according to this >> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/f/topic-3-5-18218-0.html, need to delete the boot partition
[10:05] <nanobytes> icesword: and create a new one
[10:05] <icesword> nanobytes, not familiar with dsl  will see it though
[10:06] <newusr> no errors no boot.
[10:06] <nanobytes> icesword: am so tired installing and reformatting my pc, and yet still have problem error 18 after installation
[10:06] <Slart> newusr: ah..  updating your nvidia driver killer the sound.. does the output from "dmesg | grep -i error" or "dmesg | grep -i fail" tell you anything useful?
[10:06] <newusr> am running ubuntu 7.10
[10:06] <nanobytes> icesword: am looking for solution
[10:06] <icesword> nanobytes, i am working on it now
[10:06] <nanobytes> icesword: so i found this site http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/f/topic-3-5-18218-0.html, and making it as patttern
[10:07] <ere4si> nanobytes, how old is the pc?
[10:07] <nanobytes> icesword: ok tnx
[10:07] <newusr> dmesg | grep -i error
[10:07] <newusr> [   11.945186] ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found.
[10:07] <icesword> nanobytes, did u try that command sudo su grub root something
[10:07] <nanobytes> ere4si:  it is celeron 2.6ghz and 2 years old, i think
[10:07] <nanobytes> icesword: not yet
[10:07] <newusr> dmesg | grep -i fail
[10:07] <newusr> [   12.745944] PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@e0000000 for 0000:01:00.0
[10:07] <newusr> [   14.767285] Failure registering capabilities with primary security module.
[10:07] <newusr> [    8.508000] PM: Resume from disk failed.
[10:07] <newusr> [   20.640000] Failure registering capabilities with primary security module.
[10:07] <FloodBot2> newusr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <Slart> newusr: don't paste stuff into the channel if it's more than one line.. use pastebin
[10:08] <Slart> !paste | newusr
[10:08] <ere4si> should recognise the large disk nanobytes
[10:08] <ubotu> newusr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:08] <icesword> nanobytes, and reinstall is not bothering
[10:08] <icesword> nanobytes, dsl is really small
[10:08] <newusr> sure sorry
[10:08] <hotlildude6190> hey someone help me out in installing ubuntu in a network
[10:08] <icesword> !netinstall
[10:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:08] <nanobytes> icesword: reinstall? i spent almost 2 days reinstalling .. and atill have problem
[10:09] <cafuego> myrtion: O_RLY?
[10:09] <cafuego> myrddin even :-P
[10:10] <newusr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56596/
[10:10] <icesword> nanobytes, that what mbr u use now,grub?
[10:10] <ntemis> when i open the first 001 rar file because there is not a *.rar is not working
[10:10] <cE_bAeK_16> huyz
[10:11] <nanobytes> icesword: sorry for my noobist, what is mbr? is it master boot record?
[10:11] <icesword> nanobytes,  yeah
[10:12] <Slart> newusr: that doesn't look so bad.. nothing there that looks sound related
[10:12] <nanobytes> icesword: o yeas my mbr is grub
[10:12] <newusr> mmm yeah
[10:12] <Slart> newusr: ok.. here's another command.. you can add it to the existing pastebin post.. "sudo cat /proc/asound/cards"
[10:12] <nanobytes> icesword: do i have to change the partition?
[10:13] <Slart> newusr: it lists the cards that Alsa has found and can use.. you should get some text output from that.. with some info about your soundcard.. if alsa has recognized it
[10:13] <icesword> nanobytes, i am not sure if it helps
[10:13] <icesword> nanobytes, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[10:13] <newusr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56597/
[10:14] <nanobytes> icesword: coz its said, "boot partition perhaps is greater than the boot", what do i do to change the partition?
[10:14] <icesword> nanobytes, i see that now,and sure u need a boot partition
[10:14] <JonkoPA> Yvonne,
[10:15] <Agent_bob> say i have a filesystem i want to encrypt   what would be the best way to go about that ?
[10:15] <JonkoPA> Yvonne, http://t0x.in/images/xc-ubhardy.png awesome theme! Where can I get it? incl. those setting?
[10:15] <nanobytes> icesword: what do i do? any steps there?
[10:15] <icesword> nanobytes, use livecd .like dsl to enter that computer ,run cfdisk
[10:15] <Slart> newusr: ah.. HDA intel... many questions about those.. I have one myself on my desktop.. what's the brand and model of the laptop?
[10:16] <nanobytes> icesword: yes am using livecd now, coz i cant go in to the main system i installed
[10:16] <icesword> nanobytes, run cfdisk /dev/sda or hda or what ever
[10:16] <nanobytes> icesword: ok
[10:16] <newusr> hp dv2000 "model is dv2500"
[10:17] <cokehabit> hey all
[10:17] <cokehabit> any chance someone can help with a small problem?
[10:17] <HighNo> hi there - is anybody having problems lately connecting to other stations via ssh?
[10:17] <xoqa> anyone happen to know where ... "libmawt.so" may be in a default java install?
[10:17] <fredrik> Anyone know how to setup shares from a windows machine to ubuntu 7.10, (rnning myth.-tv)
[10:17] <icesword> hotlildude6190, u still there
[10:17]  * xoqa has been working for days to get the 'processing programming language' to work
[10:18] <tockitj> Q: what is best site for learning linux/ubuntu ?? :-)
[10:18] <hotlildude6190> yes icesword
[10:18] <icesword> hotlildude6190, this chan is busy,isn't it
[10:18] <xoqa> slaving over a hot computer isn't fun, especially when acne sets in
[10:18] <hotlildude6190> ya
[10:18] <icesword> !netinstall | hotlildude6190
[10:18] <ubotu> hotlildude6190: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:18] <cokehabit> i'm having a problem after installing the nvidia drivers, it only seems to be using the mesa driver because dmesg is telling me I have an api mismatch
[10:18] <icesword> hotlildude6190, click on first link
[10:18] <caligarn1037> hi guys....am i going to have a problem if im running a toshiba satellite whose platform is 1686?
[10:18] <caligarn1037> i686
[10:18] <caligarn1037> *
[10:18] <glickity> scuse me, is there anyway to play encrypted audio books with ubuntu, the site i downloaded it from said that windows media player will automatically aquire the licesnse
[10:18] <xoqa> aand.. java doesn't work in konqueror STILL
[10:18] <fredrik> i´ve looked thru the mythtv interface, but it dosent mention remote shares anywhere...
[10:19] <nanobytes> icesword: i used this command cfdisk /dev/hda and error came >> FATAL ERROR: CAnnot open disk drive
[10:19]  * xoqa sighs
[10:19] <glickity> but it seems that gnome media player doesnt do that
[10:19] <fredrik> im figuering perhaps i need to setup local virutal folders from another machine, and use them in mythtv?
[10:19] <icesword> nanobytes, maybe it is sda?
[10:19] <nanobytes> icesword: ok
[10:19] <cokehabit> caligarn1037: not at all, i686 is basically generic PC, everything after a pentium 3
[10:19] <nanobytes> icesword: same error
[10:19] <Slart> newusr: look at this thread.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=676973
[10:20] <nanobytes> i look the device in device.map
[10:20] <nanobytes> icesword: i look the device in device.map
[10:20] <icesword> nanobytes, ls /dev,find it yourself
[10:20] <caligarn1037> cokehabit: hm...then the reason why automatix2 isn't working must be for some other reason
[10:20] <caligarn1037> cokehabit: thanks
[10:20] <wain> i need some help with alsa
[10:20] <wain> any experts present?
[10:20] <Demon4AReson> yay my 1hr d.l is over
[10:20] <icesword> ...
[10:20] <newusr> i will thanks Slart
[10:21] <Slart> newusr: you're welcome.. hope it works out for you
[10:21] <wain> running speaker-test -D surround51 says: Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[10:21] <DDragon> im having problems with the display driver in Gutsy is there a way to roll back towhen it was working properly?
[10:21] <wain> any idea?
[10:22] <newusr> Thanks
[10:22] <glickity> anyone know how to listen to encrypted audio books on ubuntu?
[10:22] <glickity> on windows it downloads the license
[10:22] <glickity> which decryupts it
[10:23] <glickity> automatically
[10:23] <Slart> glickity: what do you use on windows to listen to them?
[10:23] <Slart> glickity: it sounds like a proprietary solution to me =/
[10:23] <glickity> Slart, the website says to use windows media player
[10:23] <DDragon> so im guessing there isnt a way to roll back to when it was working?
[10:23] <glickity> i havent actually tried them on windows yet
[10:23] <nanobytes> icesword: i found one with no fatal error : this one /dev/hdd but message said "Open disk-read only u have no permission to write"
[10:23] <Yancho> I have just bought a new HDD on USB2 - and partitioned it 80GB - ext3 / and 80GB fat32 .. the one on ext3 used already 1.3GB and a folder lost+found :S .. why? Also how can I permanently mount this : /dev/sdb1 on /media/usbdisk-1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev) to /media/dbhdd please?
[10:24] <wain> any help for my alsa problem?
[10:24] <Slart> glickity: hmm.. that will be a problem then.. I don't think microsoft has a version of wmp for linux.. don't think they ever will
[10:24] <icesword> nanobytes, that is strange,maybe dsl use ram as disk too
[10:24] <glickity> well i guess ill boot intow windows and listen to them on windows them
[10:24]  * glickity sighs
[10:25] <icesword> nanobytes, what u gonna to do
[10:25] <nanobytes> icesword: oi press enter and new message came out
[10:25] <Slart> glickity: if you really want to you can always try virtualbox or qemu.. run a virtual windows machine and use that to listen
[10:25] <icesword> nanobytes, how many disk u have
[10:26] <glickity> eh too much hassel Slart
[10:26] <Slart> glickity: indeed.. just pointing out the option
[10:26] <glickity> yeah thanks
[10:26] <nanobytes> icesword: 1 hard disk only, with xp and ubuntu
[10:27] <icesword> nanobytes, aah,i thought you are doing dsl install
[10:27] <nanobytes> icesword: heres the disk drive: /dev/hdd size 593889280 bytes, 593 mb
[10:27] <nanobytes> icesword: aw, no sir
[10:27] <nanobytes> icesword: its just an idea how to solve my problem in grub error 18
[10:28] <icesword> nanobytes, now open a terminal ,enter parted
[10:28] <icesword> nanobytes, see what device it find
[10:28] <nanobytes> icesword: ok
[10:29] <DDragon> is there a way of going back to when the video card was worknig properly without re-installing gutsy?
[10:29] <icesword> DDragon, is there any chance you can uninstall that driver
[10:29] <nanobytes> icesword: theres a wraning message
[10:29] <nanobytes> icesword: you are not superuser
[10:29] <DDragon> not that i can find
[10:30] <DDragon> its the nVidia restricted driver
[10:30] <icesword> nanobytes, sudo parted
[10:30] <icesword> !graphic
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <icesword> !graphic-driver
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphic-driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <icesword> sorry
[10:31] <nanobytes> icesword: ok message >> "Using /dev/hda"
[10:31] <DDragon> its ok icesword
[10:31] <icesword> nanobytes, what u gonna to do with your ubuntu
[10:32] <nanobytes> icesword: hmm no idea what u mean
[10:33] <icesword> nanobytes, i said what to do to fix your problem
[10:33] <enzo> ati cards are perfectly supported on linux ?
[10:34] <nanobytes> icesword: o i c, reduce the partition, ok i'll try it now
[10:34] <icesword> !hardware
[10:34] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[10:34] <Slart> enzo: perfectly is perhaps not the word I'd use... nor supported =)
[10:34] <DDragon> !nvidia
[10:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:34] <ere4si> enzo: they are supported but not as well as nvidia
[10:34] <enzo> you're sure ere4si?
[10:35] <Slart> enzo: except the older cards.. those have good support
[10:35] <simonss> hi. I installed emerald and ran the command --replace emerald. Now i can't get back the gtk-window-decorator as the default decorator when sompiz starts. Its always emerald at startup. please help
[10:35] <ere4si> enzo: yep
[10:35] <enzo> ok
[10:35] <ere4si> k
[10:37] <enzo> but if i only use 2d of a ati cards, is it well supported ere4si?
[10:37] <enzo> i just need a card to have a big resolution on linux, but no 3d
[10:38] <ere4si> enzo: you should get supported resolutions only the three d might not be what windows drivers can produce
[10:38] <Senior_Rossi> Hello enzo. For perfect resolution, the nvidia cards are the first choice...
[10:39] <orbrb> hey people
[10:39] <icesword> x86 is perfect
[10:39] <enzo> ok Senior_Rossi
[10:39] <cairnsguy> anyone from cairns?
[10:40] <enzo> i think it's gonna change when drivers will be completely free, but for now, nvidia...
[10:41] <cairnsguy> HEY PEOPLESSS
[10:41] <cairnsguy> hehe jsut lookin for a chat
[10:41] <cairnsguy> someone from cairns
[10:41] <cairnsguy> msg me
[10:41] <cairnsguy> girls
[10:41] <cairnsguy> if you are aswell
[10:41] <Slart> cairnsguy: this is a support channel
[10:41] <cairnsguy> oh
[10:41] <ere4si> cairnsguy, try #ubuntu-au-chat
[10:41] <cairnsguy> no anywhere thats a chat room
[10:42] <cairnsguy> haha
[10:42] <cairnsguy> yeah cos there heeeps of people here
[10:42] <cairnsguy> my mate threat told me about herew
[10:42] <caligarn1037> does anybody own a toshiba satellite A205...and has fixed the wireless problems on gutsy?
[10:45] <wain> need alsa help!!!!!!!!!
[10:46] <NoVo-cain> hey guys, anyone have the time to help me with a guide i found on setting up smbshare?
[10:46] <NoVo-cain> i folowd it altough it gives me an error saying there is no mount point in the given folder..
[10:46] <icesword> !samba
[10:46] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[10:47] <co_cr_tmn> hai
[10:47] <icesword> high
[10:47] <NoVo-cain> i used this guide..
[10:47] <NoVo-cain> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667580
[10:47] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know a program like top, but that monitors which process is currently accessing which drive ?
[10:48] <icesword> MindSpark, accessing which drive,not sure what u mean
[10:48] <iclebyte> MindScape, look into ' lsof '
[10:48] <MindSpark> icesword, I have random hard disk activity which is just driving me crazy
[10:48] <NoVo-cain> thx, il try that permanent guide, do i need to remove the current line from fstab?
[10:48] <MindSpark> lsof is just a snapshot
[10:48] <MindSpark> I need something realtime
[10:50] <co_cr_tmn> fdu
[10:51] <MindSpark> wazzat ?
[10:52] <Oli```> MindSpark: iotop (not sure if it's in the repos though) is something I've used on redhat
[10:52] <tockitj> Q: can someone pls suggest text to speech conversion software ?
[10:53] <kbrooks> Question:
[10:53] <kbrooks> When my resolution is 1280x1024, the GUI does not show the full screen.
[10:54] <diceman> hi
[10:54] <kbrooks> only a part of it, and I have to scroll down with my mouse to see it all.
[10:54] <kbrooks> Any ideas?
[10:55] <drayen> i'm about to buy a laptop with 2x160gb disks, which is a bit much - i was thinking of having a play with software raid to setup raid0 on say 60gb of each disk then raid1 on the last 100gb - what do people thing - crazy or brilliant + any good tutorials / links for this kind of madness :
[10:55] <ere4si> !raid | drayen
[10:55] <ubotu> drayen: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[10:55] <Oli```> MindScape: nevermind, you can download the script from http://guichaz.free.fr/misc/
[10:55] <Oli```> Whoops.. that ^ was for MindSpark
[10:56] <drayen> ere4si: brilliant thanks.. but what about the idea in general - good/bad one? was thinking raid0 might give the apps a needed speed boost when using slow laptop hds
[10:57] <simplyubuntu> hey everyone
[10:57] <simplyubuntu> :D
[10:57] <simplyubuntu> does anybody here use epiphany with ubuntu? flash doesn't seem to be working for me... any ideas?
[10:57] <ere4si> have to be on seperate drives drayen but sounds like a learning experience :)
[10:58] <simplyubuntu> ??
[10:58] <MindSpark> Oli```, thanks !
[11:00] <co_cr_tmn> '
[11:00] <co_cr_tmn> kao
[11:00] <co_cr_tmn>  adalah
[11:00] <simplyubuntu> anyone???
[11:00] <Oli```> drayen: you'd be better off replacing one of them with a faster, smaller disk. laptop disks are slow as ****. Software raid will just sap the few resources you've got.
[11:02] <cyzie> how do i configure my intel onboard vga to have 3d acceleration ?
[11:04] <MindSpark> iotop is written in ksh, will it work under bash ?
[11:04] <Agent_bob> someone here has encrupted the root fs ?    how did it turn out ?
[11:04] <LetsGo67> I cannot boot my hard drive by itself, I need to insert the Ubuntu CD, then go to "boot from first hard disk".  Is there a way to fix that?
[11:04] <danisahne> hi how to attach this options to update-initramfs? --with=xennet --preload=xenblk
[11:04] <drayen> Oli```: humm... you think the cpu / mem stresses of software raid will eat any benefit from the increased hd speed?
[11:05] <ubuntu> do .mpg files play in ubuntu?
[11:05] <Oli```> drayen: on a laptop yeah
[11:05] <cyzie> ubuntu, why not ?
[11:05] <Oli```> ubuntu: should do - they're not a restricted format
[11:05] <simplyubuntu> does flash work in epiphany on ubuntu?
[11:05] <rinaldi_> hi i installed firefox 3 beta 2, but im having a lot of compatbility issues. how can i uninstall it and then install firefox 2 again?
[11:05] <cyzie> simplyubuntu, works for me
[11:06] <simplyubuntu> cyzie did you have to do any extra plugin installation thingies?
[11:06] <ubuntu> cyzie: i have the stuff for it to work downloaded (i just woke up so dont remember name :() but it gets internal errror
[11:06] <cyzie> simplyubuntu, yes.
[11:06] <NoVo-cain> will fstab approve therse kinda filenames? //servername/film 2 (x) ?
[11:06] <Oli```> drayen: I know they're quite a chunk of money but SSD is the way forward for laptop storage
[11:06] <cyzie> ubuntu, he
[11:06] <NoVo-cain> the sharename of the folder is (film 2 (x) )
[11:07] <simplyubuntu> cyzie can you tell me what the plugin was called?
[11:07] <drayen> Oli```: i agree 100% but for the hear and now raid0 seemed like a cool idea
[11:07] <NoVo-cain> or will i get an mount error?
[11:08] <cyzie> simplyubuntu, have you try flashplugin-nonfree ?
[11:08] <Oli```> drayen: it also doubles your chances of loosing all your data from HD crashes, so I would never recommend it for large volumes
[11:08] <simplyubuntu> cyzie trying it now...
[11:08] <drayen> Oli```: right, but thats why /home would be on raid1
[11:09] <Agent_bob> no one here has anything to say about encryption of / ?
[11:09] <ubuntu> i cant play .mpg files!! is it cuz im on live cd??
[11:10] <EnvoyRising> yeah, so i'm sure i'm addicted to irc
[11:10] <ubuntu> "internal data flow error"
[11:10] <NoVo-cain> what does this mean?
[11:10] <NoVo-cain> mount error: can not change directory into mount target /media/serier-1
[11:10] <NoVo-cain> mount: mount point 0 does not exist
[11:10] <mrga_cro> hello what is the command for restarting compiz and ccsm
[11:11] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain so make the dir
[11:11] <Oli```> drayen: Well that's certainly a good idea (regardless of RAID0). Well... Try it out with some disk benchmarks
[11:11] <NoVo-cain> Agent_bob i have made the dirs..
[11:11] <Agent_bob> ls -ld /media/serier-1
[11:11] <Oli```> drayen: you should be able to do everything from the livecd if you've got enough ram
[11:12] <drayen> Oli```: cool, i will give that  a try
[11:12] <drayen> Oli```: i hope to get it today or tomorrow
[11:12] <Oli```> Jennifer: enough nick changes?
[11:12] <NoVo-cain> ah case-sensetive
[11:12] <NoVo-cain> thx Agent_bob
[11:12] <cyzie> how do i configure my intel onboard vga to have 3d acceleration ?
[11:12] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain everything in linux is.    welcome
[11:12] <Oli```> cyzie: usually installing the drivers is enough
[11:13] <NoVo-cain> ehe thx, as you might have figuerd im an old windows user =)
[11:13] <cyzie> Oli```, any link from ubuntu official site teach how to do just that?
[11:13] <Oli```> cyzie: what's your chipset?
[11:14] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain most in here are.    standing joke is 99.999% questions are   "where's my C:\"
[11:14] <cyzie> Oli```,  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:14] <DarkMantis> there're some troubles with the 3d and intel chips
[11:14] <NoVo-cain> Agent_bob hehehe =)
[11:14] <NoVo-cain> i wont ask that, i prommise, i acctually got mythtv installed, so im kinda proud acctually =)
[11:14] <DarkMantis> the problem is with the kernel
[11:15] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain good on ya mate.
[11:15] <Oli```> cyzie: try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and restarting X
[11:15] <NoVo-cain> im sure loving linux, its so logic when you get the gist of it
[11:15] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain des-quatro
[11:15] <cyzie> Oli```, tried that and restast X, dint work
[11:16] <icesword> ...
[11:16] <Xochaedo> So...I just installed Ubuntu Gutsy onto one of the hard drives in my system, but I can't see my other hard drive. I think it still needs to be formatted...anybody know how I wold do that?
[11:16] <Oli```> cyzie: is there a restricted driver available for it? (In system>admin>restricted driver manager)
[11:17] <Agent_bob> Xochaedo gparted ?
[11:17] <cyzie> Oli```, okay, good idea, let me try
[11:18] <Agent_bob> Xochaedo you can look at the output of#   cat /proc/partitions   #to see what you have to work with.
[11:18] <Frogzoo> Xochaedo: gparted
[11:19] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo copy cat.
[11:19] <Agent_bob> :)
[11:19] <Frogzoo> yeah
[11:19] <twocs> xochaedo: if your other hard drive is sleeping, you might not see it
[11:20] <Agent_bob> twocs that's why i said cat /proc/partitions
[11:20] <frold> what fileeditor is most like Dreamweaver?
[11:20] <Xochaedo> agent_bob: The partitions thing you wanted me to look at is a text file, right?
[11:20] <MindSpark> so I got this DTraceToolkit which includes iotop, but I can't find dtrace in it :S
[11:20] <skyion> Hi Guys...
[11:20] <frold> !dreamweaver
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dreamweaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <skyion> is there a way to say
[11:20] <Agent_bob> right.  it's just the information about your hdd's
[11:20] <skyion> route add default gw dsl0
[11:21] <Xochaedo> Agent_bob: Yeah...it gave me an empty document. =\
[11:21] <MindSpark> frold, search wysiwyg html
[11:21] <skyion> dsl0: Unknown host
[11:21] <NoVo-cain> //192.168.1.38/d /media/Serier-1 cifs
[11:21] <NoVo-cain> guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode 0 0
[11:21] <Frogzoo> route add default gw -i dsl0
[11:21] <skyion> ahh
[11:21] <skyion> Frogzoo >> you are the man
[11:21] <Frogzoo> route add default gw dev dsl0 - actually
[11:21] <Agent_bob> Xochaedo did i typo ?     cat /proc/partitions
[11:21] <skyion> i tried that
[11:22] <Xochaedo> Agent_bob: No...I did. =P Lemme see if I can make sense of what it spit out at me.
[11:22] <wain> is it possible to define rhthmboxs audio device?
[11:22] <NoVo-cain> Agent_bob still got the error message, this is the result from "dir" inside my /media folder: cdrom cdrom0 dir Film Musik Serier Serier-1 Serier-2 Serier-3. and this is a typical line in my fstab: //192.168.1.38/d /media/Serier-1 cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode 0 0
[11:22] <skyion> dev: Unknown host
[11:22] <skyion> hmm
[11:22] <Frogzoo> skyion: try route add default dev dsl0 - actually
[11:22] <skyion> it is wanting an IP
[11:23] <Xochaedo> Agent_bob: Looks like hda is the one I need access to. I've been a Windows junkie my whole life, so I guess I Just don't know how to access it.
[11:23] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain ummm maybe it missing a slash   ///192.168.1.38/d    and i'm not sure it's /d at the end may be  :d   that i don't know.
[11:24] <Oli```> cyzie: the other alternative is compiling your own drivers, I guess: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx
[11:24] <cyzie> Oli```, i wont want to go that far.
[11:24] <NoVo-cain> agent bob, the disk isnt teh D:, its simply named "d" from laseyness =)
[11:24]  * Invert314 can't get kvm working on his AMD opterton
[11:24] <Oli```> cyzie: I don't understand why there aren't drivers easily available though because you're not the only person having this issue
[11:24] <NoVo-cain> *disc
[11:24] <Invert314> full details at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536691&page=2
[11:25] <NoVo-cain> Agent_bob hence, the sharename is D
[11:25] <NoVo-cain> not the discname
[11:25] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain ok.   but do remember case sensitive.
[11:26] <cyzie> Oli```, as far as i can tell in my case, my system was installed dapper drake , then upgrade all the way upto gutsy. the main board failed and i exchange the board which has the integrated vga. well, display is fine but no flxinfo nor torcs. so that is why i suspect the 3d configuration must be faulty.
[11:26] <NoVo-cain> Agent_bob yes, windows says the sharename is: \\server\d, hence in linux //192.168.1.38/d
[11:26] <wain> is it possible to define rhthmboxs audio device?
[11:26] <Agent_bob> NoVo-cain ///
[11:27] <Frogzoo> cyzie: glxinfo |grep direct
[11:27] <cyzie> Frogzoo, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:27] <NoVo-cain> mount error: could not find target server. TCP name /192.168.1.38 not found
[11:27] <NoVo-cain> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[11:28] <NoVo-cain> so it cant be ///
[11:28] <gryzor_> hi there, i'm new to ubuntu linux and asked me if someone knows a good socks/proxy-checker scann tool, which saves anonymous socks in a txtfile?
[11:28] <Frogzoo> cyzie: you have load glx in your xorg.conf ?
[11:28] <Agent_bob> ok
[11:29] <cyzie> Frogzoo, glx found none in xorg.conf
[11:30] <Frogzoo> cyzie: in modules, you need a line '  Load    "glx"'
[11:30] <cyzie> mm
[11:30] <cyzie> so i must enable glx in xorg.conf ?
[11:30] <Grab> hello, do you think amule is better than emule on windows?
[11:30] <Frogzoo> cyzie: at a guess, yes
[11:30] <yago> Me too
[11:31] <cyzie> Frogzoo, just now the command you gave also has this error, Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[11:32] <Xochaedo> Agent_bob: Okay, I have gparted running...how should I format the disk?
[11:32] <cyzie> Oli```, Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers. when i lauch the restricted-manager.
[11:32] <Xochaedo> Agent_bob: Like...what should I format it to? ext2? ext3? linux-swap?
[11:32] <Yancho> i want that i free some cpu power whilst a very important sql query is finished - how can i do it please? how to close the gui ?
[11:33] <Agent_bob> Xochaedo how ever you plan on using it will dictate that.  execpt swap.  you don't want more than about 2g swap max
[11:34] <Xochaedo> Agent_bob: I mostly want it for data storage. Would that be ext2?
[11:34] <Agent_bob> twocs ah yes smb:///blah     try it that way.   i know i was told that you have to use three / to make smb work right.
[11:35] <cyzie> brb
[11:35] <Agent_bob> Xochaedo i would say ext2   but most would say ext3    only differance is the journal
[11:35] <Agent_bob> or it's supposed to be.
[11:36] <Grab> is there a little simple linux distro? i just need it to run amule
[11:37] <KnightWse> dsl linux
[11:37] <icesword> Grab, simple or small?
[11:37] <kbrooks> Grab, why do you want a little simple linux distro
[11:37] <icesword> !simple
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about simple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <Xochaedo> Agent_bob: Sweet. Thanks for the info.
[11:37] <kbrooks> Grab, puppy linux is simple AND small (over 50 mb, less than 700 mb)
[11:37] <Frogzoo> Grab: all linux distros will run amule, take your pick
[11:38] <Agent_bob> Grab for "simpl-city"  ubuntu is built to try to fit that bill
[11:38] <MindSpark> Oli```, iotop needs dtrace, any idea where I can get that for linux ?
[11:38] <Grab> Frogzoo, but i dont want to spend 30 mins installing
[11:38] <Grab> kbrooks, didd u try puppy linux
[11:38] <Grab> ?
[11:38]  * Agent_bob wonders about recommending gentoo to Grab ....
[11:38] <kbrooks> Grab, yes
[11:38] <kbrooks> Agent_bob, lol
[11:39] <Grab> kbrooks, what's the difference with ubuntu
[11:39] <Grab> ?
[11:39] <kbrooks> by the way, this is NOT ubuntu support
[11:39] <kbrooks> !offtopic
[11:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:39] <Frogzoo> Grab: don't think you'll find an easier path to get it running than ubuntu
[11:39] <kbrooks> Grab, http://www.puppylinux.org
[11:39] <icesword> pclinuxos radically simple
[11:39] <kaps> getting an error
[11:39] <kaps> ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gobject/_gobject.so: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_FromObject
[11:39] <Agent_bob> someone with fs encryption experance,  talk to me.
[11:39] <kaps> ?
[11:40] <kaps> I am on gusty
[11:40] <Yancho> I have mounted my USB HDD partition as /media/dbhdd .. will it auto mount the next time as that name? or after reboot it will mount as /media/usbmedia-1 ?
[11:41] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo kbrooks ?
[11:41] <Frogzoo> about cryptsetup is all I know, it's a bit messy
[11:42] <Nightmare> chick
[11:42] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo ok.  i'll give it a look.   and by messy do you mean setting up or mantaining ?
[11:42] <ere4si> Yancho, you need an entry in the /etc/fstab file for it to mount at boot time
[11:42] <kbrooks> Agent_bob, umm, question quality check failed. a) you're asking to ask, and b) from a, it can be inferred that your question is vague
[11:42] <kbrooks> Agent_bob, please try asking an actual question
[11:42] <kaps> python help on gusty plz?
[11:42] <kbrooks> Agent_bob, then we can give actual support
[11:43] <Agent_bob> kbrooks i see.  thank you.
[11:43] <kbrooks> Agent_bob, hmm, okaaaayyyy then.
[11:43] <TrapperDave> Can anyone recommend a decent music application that will play mp3s, download and play podcasts and sync all of the music and podcasts with an iPod at all?
[11:43] <ere4si> kaps: are you writing a program?
[11:44] <kbrooks> TrapperDave, why isn't rythmbox decent?
[11:44] <kaps> ere4si: no
[11:44] <ere4si> kaps: what app were you running?
[11:44] <kaps> ere4si: meld
[11:44] <Yancho> ere4si : /dev/sdb1 /media/dbhdd extfs rw 0 0 like this is ok ?
[11:45] <Agent_bob> !mp3 | TrapperDave formats may restrict free software from supporting some thing.
[11:45] <ubotu> TrapperDave formats may restrict free software from supporting some thing.: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:45] <kaps> ere4si:was working fine before, but for some wrong reasons I compiled and reinstalled python
[11:45] <Yancho> ere4si this is the line from mount : /dev/sdb1 on /media/dbhdd type ext3 (rw)
[11:45] <Frogzoo> TrapperDave: you want amarok
[11:45] <ere4si> Yancho, looks ok
[11:45] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/179230  anyone is working on this bug? :-/
[11:45] <TrapperDave> I can't get Rythmbox to load the music onto the iPod.
[11:45] <kaps> ere4si:how can I fix it?
[11:45] <Yancho> oki thanks
[11:46] <_moro_bana_> whats the difference between the ubuntu ultimate edition from the one i downloaded
[11:46] <ere4si> kaps: I don't know - does synaptic show python 2.5 installed?
[11:46] <kaps> ere4si: yes
[11:46] <Yancho> and any idea on this one please : i want that i free some cpu power whilst a very important sql query is finished - how can i do it please? how to close the gui ? i tried ctroll - backspace alt .. but it returned me to the menu
[11:47] <TrapperDave> I couldn't get Amarok to work properly. But I think I might give it another try this afternoon.
[11:47] <faileas> i think ultimate edition is a repack with more things
[11:47] <kaps> ere4si:basically how can I come back to the original state?
[11:47] <boyet> do we have a guide in triple booting xp vista and ubuntu?
[11:47] <ere4si> kaps: looking brb
[11:48] <Agent_bob> Yancho sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[11:48] <kaps> ere4si:ok, waiting for your reply
[11:48] <Agent_bob> Yancho sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start to resume it
[11:48] <faileas> boyet: from scratch?
[11:48] <Yancho> Agent_bob oki thanks :)
[11:48] <marko-_-> does someone know how to load subtitles in real player ?
[11:48] <cyzie> Frogzoo, no luck
[11:49] <cyzie> Frogzoo, there is no module section in my xorg.conf file
[11:49] <Agent_bob> boyet you just add another entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:49] <Agent_bob> !grub > boyet
[11:49] <boyet> faileas: not really i know now how to dual boot but never tried the trpile boot
[11:49] <Yancho> Agent_bob * Stopping GNOME Display Manager... [ ok ] - but i still have the login screen not a black cli
[11:49] <ere4si> kaps: how did you "compile" python?
[11:49] <shishirm1> hi can any 1 suggest a mail service and a command line mail client
[11:49] <faileas> boyet: same thing. just install linux last
[11:50] <kaps> ere4si:./configure, make , make install
[11:50] <Agent_bob> Yancho ?
[11:50]  * faileas installed XP then Vista then some linux distro and it worked fine
[11:50] <ere4si> kaps: from their website?
[11:50] <boyet> faileas: do i need to partition the hdd in three sections?
[11:50] <kaps> ere4si:yes
[11:50] <faileas> boyet: preferably
[11:50] <Yancho> Agent_bob on my screen there is the login screen not a black command line terminal
[11:51] <Agent_bob> Yancho are you saying that gdm is still running after you try to kill it.  or that there is a ghost picture left over on the display ?
[11:51] <Agent_bob> Yancho can you login there or not ?
[11:51] <boyet> faileas: tnx fella gonna try tommorow to my friends laptop at least i'm safe hehehhe
[11:51] <Yancho> yes i logged in Agent_bob
[11:52] <Agent_bob> Yancho and you ran     sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop    ???
[11:52] <Yancho> yes .. im doing it again Agent_bob
[11:52] <Agent_bob> Yancho if that doesn't kill gdm then there is a bug
[11:53] <Yancho> did it no change .. still got the desktop showing
[11:53] <Agent_bob> file a bug
[11:53] <Agent_bob> !bug | Yancho
[11:53] <ubotu> Yancho: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[11:53] <faileas> boyet: is the laptop currently vista? if so use the partition manager on vista, not gparted. i think the vista bootloader won't be overwritten by XP, and Ubuntu will happily chainload it
[11:53] <ere4si> kaps: all I can suggest is to ask on #python   sorry :)
[11:54] <kaps> ere4si:thanks, no probs
[11:54] <ere4si> k
[11:54] <Agent_bob> Yancho before i leave that with you let me ask one more thing    id did close for a moment then restart when you ran that command ?
[11:54] <boyet> faileas: i am thinking of flushing out the OS and start from scratch
[11:54] <Yancho> Agent_bob my main concern is that the screensaver doesnt come in .. if i log out will it keep working etc?
[11:54] <Yancho> Agent_bob nope nothign
[11:55] <faileas> boyet: easier then. partition it, XP, then vista then ubuntu. make sure vista has more than 20 gigs... the other two at least 10ish is good
[11:55] <Agent_bob> Yancho then don't file that bug report yet.
[11:55] <Yancho> a ok now it worked .. maybe hte control alt backpace screwed it :) now im in the black terminal
[11:55] <Agent_bob> Yancho or maybe you typo'd ?
[11:55] <Yancho> most prob :o)
[11:56] <boyet> faileas: maybe some 4sections in the hdd if it is possible
[11:56] <kaps> ere4si: I had another query related to cdrom mount
[11:56] <faileas> boyet: doable
[11:56] <kaps> ere4si:wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[11:56] <kaps>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[11:56] <kaps>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:56] <kaps>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:56] <MindSpark> ok, this is very confusing. There should be a gedit dir in .gnome2. Does anyone know where this is located in ubuntu ?
[11:56] <kaps> ere4si: ?
[11:56] <ere4si> kaps
[11:57] <boyet> faileas: do you have any idea on timer for internet cafe using all ubuntus?
[11:57] <ere4si> kaps: the cd should automount?
[11:57] <faileas> boyet: no
[11:57] <kaps> ere4si: its not
[11:57] <Yancho> yup typo
[11:57] <ere4si> what's on the disk kaps?
[11:57] <kaps> ere4si: but it works on windows
[11:58] <Agent_bob> Yancho heh.  it happens
[11:58] <Tyroazard> Hey #ubuntu, how to reinstall GRUB?
[11:58] <_coldfire_> hello! i have problem with SAT card. can anyone help?
[11:58] <boyet> i;m stuckin postgresql adding schemes well anyway thanks
[11:58] <kaps> ere4si: just a data cd
[11:58] <Tyroazard> From XP, preferably?
[11:58] <faileas> boyet: let me ask apt ;p
[11:58] <Agent_bob> !tab | Yancho
[11:58] <ubotu> Yancho: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:58] <kaps> ere4si:in windows when I saw properties its udf
[11:58] <ere4si> kaps: where were you mounting to?
[11:59] <kaps> ere4si:/media/cdrom
[11:59] <boyet> faileas: i have installed everything except adding schema in postgresql.
[11:59] <ere4si> kaps: and the command you used?
[11:59] <Yancho> ye i know :P
[11:59] <harry__> question rhytmbox  doesnt  work
[12:00] <kaps> ere4si: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0/
[12:00] <Agent_bob> kaps is external cd drive ?
[12:00] <kaps> Agent_bob:no , its in my laptop
[12:00] <Agent_bob> kaps  has a data disk in the drive ?
[12:01] <Agent_bob> kaps  not music.
[12:01] <kaps> Agent_bob: yes
[12:01] <kaps> Agent_bob:data disk
[12:02] <Agent_bob> kaps can you paste a command in a terminal ?
[12:03] <kaps> Agent_bob: sure
[12:03] <orgy_> hi, for some time now my system gets really slow while loading programs or sometimes reading from hard disk, udma is only set to 2, might that be the problem?
[12:03] <Agent_bob> NUM=0 ;for Q in `ls -1 /dev/hd? 2>/dev/null && ls -1 /dev/scd? 2>/dev/null `;do eject $Q && eject -t $Q && NUM=$(($NUM + 1)) && FOUND="$FOUND  $NUM $Q";done >& /dev/null ;echo "$FOUND"
[12:04] <Agent_bob> i'll pastebin that whole script for anyone that cares to look
[12:04] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6e05e0ae
[12:06] <orgy_> http://rafb.net/p/T4PL1M68.html this is what smartcl tells me about the disk
[12:07] <saylar> hey guys
[12:07] <kaps> Agent_bob: NO CD/DVD DRIVES FOUND!      this can be caused by missing kernel modules,
[12:07] <kaps>     improper devfs/udev configuration, or even by bad/or failing hardware.
[12:08] <saylar> anyone is familiar with an flash mp3 player or could tell me where i could ask for help?
[12:08] <tdrusk> I had to reinstall Openoffice but it looks like crap. It doesn't match my Ubuntu theme. What do I need?
[12:10] <kaps> Agent_bob:sorry, thats probably wrong
[12:10] <kaps> Agent_bob: I downloaded the script you said in pastebin
[12:11] <kaps> Agent_bob: and when I ran , it says ./script_cd.sh: 7: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[12:11] <kaps> Agent_bob:?
[12:11] <User3462> saylar: there are flash mp3 players examples out there if you want to make one , google would find some of them
[12:11] <Liono> there a yahoo messenger for linux. how to install it. not in repositories?
[12:11] <kaps> ere4i:?
[12:11] <kaps> ere4si:?
[12:12] <ere4si> kaps
[12:12] <EnvoyRising> Liono: the yahoo messenger for linux is a bit shady feature wise you'd be better off getting one of the multi protocol messengers
[12:12] <Dflamingo> I need help
[12:12] <Agent_bob> kaps that's a differance in the shell.   i'm using the LTS and you are probably using gutsy
[12:12] <Viktorious> hi anyone know what music player is the tiny one looks sort of like winamp
[12:12] <Dflamingo> How do I get 'WINE'?
[12:12] <Liono> EnvoyRising shady features ?
[12:12] <Agent_bob> kaps the error message i mean.
[12:12] <Dflamingo> I've been searching
[12:13] <EnvoyRising> Viktorious: look into audacious
[12:13] <User3462> Vik: xmms maybe ?
[12:13] <Agent_bob> kaps  the rest of the script seems to have worked.    the cd tray never did open did it ?
[12:13] <Dflamingo> Help someone?
[12:13] <kbrooks>  !wine | Dflamingo
[12:13] <ubotu> Dflamingo: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[12:13] <Liono> EnvoyRising how do i install it any way?
[12:13] <EnvoyRising> Liono: that should have been shoddy... no webcam, hardly any development, etc
[12:13] <kbrooks> Dflamingo, synaptic > search for wine: install it
[12:14] <Liono> EnvoyRising it has voice chating ?
[12:14] <ere4si> kaps: is windows on the same comp?
[12:14] <EnvoyRising> Liono: you'll have to grab the source and compile i believe.. don't remember there being a binary package
[12:14] <Dflamingo> Thank you
[12:14] <Dflamingo> Wait!
[12:14] <kbrooks> Dflamingo, or run: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:14] <EnvoyRising> Liono: no
[12:14] <Dflamingo> Which synaptic?
[12:14] <tarelerulz> I am using ekiga and trying to config the sound ,but nothing is happing.   It says I should hear something in my speakers ,but I don't. It use alsa and  HDA intel which I think is my sound card . I am lost help
[12:14] <Dflamingo> I *just* installed ubuntu
[12:14] <kaps> Agent_bob: no it didnt
[12:14] <Dflamingo> There are two options
[12:14] <kaps> ere4si:yes
[12:14] <EnvoyRising> Liono: for those features, your  best bet right now is kopete (though, its not gtk app)
[12:14] <Dflamingo> The manager thingy?
[12:14] <kbrooks> Dflamingo, synaptic [package manager], system > administration
[12:14] <Liono> EnvoyRising i dont have any alternative to yahoo messenger that has voice chat and webcam ?
[12:14] <Dflamingo> Thanks
[12:15] <EnvoyRising> Liono: kopete provides both
[12:15] <Liono> kopete gives that for msn too?
[12:15] <EnvoyRising> Liono: yes. its the kde equivalent of pidgin, but actually has the vv features
[12:15] <sti> gora ETA
[12:15] <Dflamingo> Hey, I'm at the Synaptic Manager
[12:15] <sti> gora ETA
[12:15] <sti> gora ETA
[12:15] <sti> gora ETA
[12:15] <sti> gora ETA
[12:15] <sti> gora ETA
[12:15] <sti> gora ETA
[12:15] <FloodBot2> sti: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <Dflamingo> Where do I go from here?
[12:15] <kaps> Agent_bob:what does that imply?
[12:15] <EnvoyRising> pidgin developers are hell bent against video chat at the moment
[12:16] <Liono> EnvoyRising vv features?
[12:16] <ere4si> kaps: do you have a file /cdrom in /dev?
[12:16] <EnvoyRising> Liono: vv = voice/video
[12:16] <Liono> EnvoyRising so its better than pidgin ?
[12:16] <Agent_bob> kaps does this do the same thing   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1527984f
[12:16] <kaps> ere4si:  yes
[12:16] <EnvoyRising> Liono: "better" is a subjective word, lol. It is more feature rich
[12:16] <Liono> ok
[12:16] <Agent_bob> ere4si he has /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0
[12:16] <tarelerulz> Why woudl pidgin be not want voice/video .  I hate to say it text is not really pushing the technology at all.  Stuff like irc has been around for years.
[12:17] <Dflamingo> Hey um, I'm confused
[12:17] <Dflamingo> Where do I go from the synaptic package manager?
[12:17] <kaps> Agent_bob: it says
[12:17] <kbrooks> Dflamingo, ctrl+f
[12:17] <kaps> Agent_bob: NO CD/DVD DRIVES FOUND!      this can be caused by missing kernel modules,
[12:17] <kaps>     improper devfs/udev configuration, or even by bad/or failing hardware.
[12:17] <kbrooks> Dflamingo, type wine, enter, wait
[12:17] <Dflamingo> and I type wine?
[12:17] <Dflamingo> Okay
[12:17] <orgy_> hi, for some time now my system gets really slow while loading programs or sometimes reading from hard disk, udma is only set to 2, might that be the problem?
 Why woudl pidgin be not want voice/video .  I hate to say it text is not really pushing the technology at all.  Stuff like irc has been around for years. # um
[12:18] <erUSUL> !ops | sti terrorist apology
[12:18] <ubotu> sti terrorist apology: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[12:18] <Liono> EnvoyRising http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php gives it but when i dl the .deb. it asked for a dependancey. i have the latest version of that dependancy installed but it asks for an older one . why so?
[12:18] <kbrooks> tarelerulz, they _do_
[12:18] <kbrooks> tarelerulz, but it's slow going
[12:18] <saylar> exit
[12:18] <caceresa> HI
[12:18] <deniz__> does kino work with .mpg files? or must i convert them b4 doing anything?
[12:18] <kbrooks> tarelerulz, very, very slow
[12:18] <Agent_bob> kaps   yeah  bur no error messages this time.    the script is working propperly.   and the information it gave should be a clue about the cause of the problem.
[12:18] <KnightWse> does anybody have any experience with working with software raid ?
[12:18] <Dflamingo> A bunch of options just came up
[12:18] <EnvoyRising> tarelerulz: from what i remember reading of the bug reports, the devs say that 1) those features are too complicated to implement without destroying the current framework 2) users don't really want/need the feature 3) they're tired of hearing users complain and are just ignoring them. 4) if users make a patch, they refuse to incluce it
[12:18] <Dflamingo> Do I click them all?
[12:18] <ere4si> kaps: if you have a cd in the drive and a /dev/cdrom file the os has seen the device
[12:18] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, um
[12:18] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, its 1
[12:18] <EnvoyRising> kbrooks: yes?
[12:19] <KnightWse> I'm running Ubuntu on an IBM workstation wtih and INTELL Sata raid controller
[12:19] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, not 2, 3 or 4
[12:19] <KnightWse> but Ubuntu won't recognize it
[12:19] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, amsn has vv
[12:19] <Viktorious> im bored does anyone know of any good apps to download
[12:19] <Mez> erUSUL, ????
[12:19] <Dflamingo> What do I click?
[12:19] <Dflamingo> A bunch of options just came up
[12:19] <Dflamingo> ._.
[12:19] <verb3k> Viktorious, Blender :)
[12:19] <EnvoyRising> kbrooks: but amsn isn't yahoo. and is REALLY ugly
[12:19] <kbrooks> Dflamingo, wine, the checkbox
[12:19] <Agent_bob> kaps    do the   dmesg | tail | grep cd
[12:19] <Viktorious> verb3k: whats blender
[12:19] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, you can change it
[12:19] <Liono> can any one help me how to enable direct hardware acceleration for good graphics. direct rendering managmnet is disabled in m case. how to enable it? i have intel p4 builtin vga?
[12:19] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, (theme)
[12:20] <Mez> !opabuse | erusul
[12:20] <Agent_bob> see if it shows any information on the device
[12:20] <ubotu> erusul: Leave the ops alone!
[12:20] <caceresa> HOW  DO  I  ENABLE THE  3D DESKTOP
[12:20] <verb3k> Viktorious, www.blender.org
[12:20] <tarelerulz> I am have being trying to find a way  network that does voice and video and I have been told they are out there ,but the one program I got install ekiga don't work
[12:20] <erUSUL> Mez: sti was giving support  to a known terrorist group (ETA)
[12:20] <Dflamingo> Downloading!
[12:20] <Dflamingo> Thank you!
[12:20] <EnvoyRising> kbrooks: all themes are ugly unless you install the extra packages..forget the name. was recently added to the tk toolkit to make it look more native
[12:20] <tarelerulz> It can't pick up my mic or anything like that
[12:20] <verb3k> Viktorious, sudo apt-get install blender
[12:20] <EnvoyRising> kbrooks: also, it is 2 3 and 4. read the logs...
[12:20] <kaps> Agent_bob: it gives nothing
[12:20] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, really?
[12:20] <EnvoyRising> users have made plugins/ or at least offered to, and devs refuse to include them
[12:21] <Mez> erUSUL, you called 3 mins after FloodBot1 had already dealt with him and he'd left?
[12:21] <Agent_bob> kaps ok.      dmesg | grep scd    but dont' flood us with data if it dumps a screen full
[12:21] <zackie> I'm having a problem with a game looking like it is refreshing but it
[12:21] <zackie>           changes the way it refreshes when i move my mouse around... Its like
[12:21] <zackie>           your trying to get a bad channel on the Tv... Any Ideas?
[12:21] <tarelerulz> It can't be normal for Ekiga not to work.  I have sound working for everything else
[12:21] <kbrooks> !enter | zackie
[12:21] <ubotu> zackie: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:21] <caceresa> HOW  DO  I  ENABLE THE  3D DESKTOP
[12:21] <darkness3477> This might sound like a silly question, but I'm thinking of building a new PC (or buy a mac... but anyway) and I wanted to know if Ubuntu detects ( and uses) if you have two GPU's and two quadcore cpu's(not sure if I'll get two though...)?
[12:22] <zackie> Sorry for the Flood... Paste didn't work like i thought it would heh
[12:22] <kbrooks> !ccsm | caceresa
[12:22] <tarelerulz> Could it be the fact I am running X86_64  processor
[12:22] <ubotu> caceresa: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[12:22] <david> caceresa: you read guides and manual
[12:22] <erUSUL> Mez: fair enough; next time i wont bother. Thnaks for your time
[12:22] <kaps> Agent_bob: it gave nothing
[12:22] <TrapperDave> I've just tried installing Amarok again, however when I try to play an mp3, I get an error message saying that these meida items were unable to be loaded into the playlist. Then I get another error straight away telling me that xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[12:22] <kbrooks> caceresa, for that question, system > prefs > appearance
[12:22] <Agent_bob> kaps hmmm    my vote is missing module.
[12:22] <Mez> erUSUL, next time just drop a note into #ubuntu-ops, rather than call !ops ;)
[12:22] <caceresa> THANKS
[12:23] <kaps> Agent_bob; what module?
[12:23] <verb3k> Viktorious, do you like it ? :)
[12:23] <|Dreams|> does anyone usee virtualbox here?
[12:23] <EnvoyRising> !ask
[12:23] <Agent_bob> that i dont' know kaps
[12:23] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:23] <kbrooks> |Dreams|, just ask
[12:23] <kaps> ere4si: but how does it not get mount then?
[12:23] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, direct it to the right person ;-)
[12:23] <|Dreams|> i want to know if it is possible to flash a xbox 360 drive firmware using virtual box with xp installed
[12:24] <bsdnewb07> hmm guys ive installed ubuntu when i type i sudo su   i get the error my username is not in the sudorers file a log has been created and then i get a postfix error :/
[12:24] <Agent_bob> kaps     sudo lshw -C cdrom
[12:24] <kbrooks> EnvoyRising, like !factoid | person or !factoid > person
[12:24] <wain> hi, how long does it take between a new release of a new version of a software/lib and beeing present as packege at ubuntu-tree
[12:24] <knifepoint> Anyone here got a Nvidia 7600GS?
[12:24] <Viktorious> verbk3: nah i dont know
[12:24] <kaps> Agent_bob: ah ok, thanks, if you get to find anything please mail me on kaps_agl@yahoo.co.in
[12:24] <Viktorious> what em i sposed to do with it
[12:24] <darkness3477> This might sound like a silly question, but I'm thinking of building a new PC (or buy a mac... but anyway) and I wanted to know if Ubuntu detects ( and uses) if you have two GPU's and two quadcore cpu's(not sure if I'll get two though...)?
[12:24] <G1015> Is virgin radio classic rock down or no longer working in rhythem box music player?
[12:24] <verb3k> Viktorious, what kind of apps are you looking for?
[12:25] <Agent_bob> kaps if      sudo lshw -C cdrom      doesn't show it.    i'm out of ideas.
[12:25] <bsdnewb07> hmm guys ive installed ubuntu when i type i sudo su   i get the error my username is not in the sudorers file a log has been created and then i get a postfix error :/
[12:25] <ere4si> kaps: wrong fs   bad superblock   makes me think that it is a bad burn or drive is dying   maybe
[12:25] <Viktorious> something fun to do
[12:25] <Agent_bob> ere4si shouldnt eject still spit the disk out tho
[12:25] <erUSUL> wain: newer packages are only present on new ubuntu releases (or for selected packages sometimes in !backports)
[12:25] <kaps> Agent_bob: it does show something and my cd moved
[12:25] <zqwe> how to enable nvidia-glx (not nvidia-glx-new) driver?
 hi, how long does it take between a new release of a new version of a software/lib and beeing present as packege at ubuntu-tree # next release. e.g. if firefox 4 is out after hardy is released, it gets in hardy+1
[12:26] <Agent_bob> kaps ah  now run the script again
[12:26] <erUSUL> kbrooks: ff *3* ;)
[12:26] <Agent_bob> kaps see if eject works this time.
[12:26] <kbrooks> erUSUL, notice "E.G."
[12:26] <ere4si> I would think so - unless the failure is in the drives board
[12:26] <kbrooks> erUSUL, bad example, but still an example '
[12:26] <erUSUL> kbrooks: ok :)
[12:27] <kaps> Agent_bob: no i didnt
[12:27] <EnvoyRising> Viktorious: check pm
[12:27] <zackie_> While playing a game using wine, it is as if it is trying to refresh oddly Like a bad channel on the tv.. but it changes the speed in which it refreshes.. Any Ideas?
[12:27] <chazco> Anyone know how to check a USB disk for faults?
[12:27] <kbrooks> chazco, why?
[12:27] <chazco> Made slightly more tricky by it being encrypted
[12:27] <Agent_bob> kaps ok.   them i don't know what to say.
[12:27] <Viktorious> didnt get one
[12:27] <chazco> i think it might be faulty
[12:27] <kaps> ere4si: may be , but then why windows is able to detect it
[12:27] <EnvoyRising> zackie: google winefix +ubuntu and install that script maybe it'llf ix your probs
[12:27] <chazco> Whenever i try to copy stuff to it Ubuntu crashes
[12:27] <chazco> Two computers
[12:27] <kbrooks> chazco, usb flash drive or usb hard drive
[12:27] <chazco> USB HDD
[12:28] <kaps> Agent_bob: fine, if u have anthing plz mail me on kaps_agl@yahoo.co.in
[12:28] <EnvoyRising> chazco: still having troubles?
[12:28] <Agent_bob> kaps     i will tell you this.    don't throw out good hardware on a bad configuration...
[12:28] <gcj> hi all, please could someone verify this bug for me? type "cd //" in a terminal (without quotes), does it hang forever?
[12:28] <chazco> Finally used a second HDD to get a backup made, so want to figure out where the issue was... its either Truecrypt, or the USB HDD
[12:28] <kbrooks> chazco, all 2 computers on the same ubuntu version?
[12:28] <chazco> Yep, Gusty 7.10 with the excessive updates
[12:28] <Agent_bob> kaps good luck with it.
[12:28] <kaps> Agent_bob: what do you mean by this
[12:29] <EnvoyRising> chazco: did you try compressing then sendign?
[12:29] <EnvoyRising> sending*
[12:29] <Agent_bob> kaps i mena if the hardware works in one os it should work in another.   "after you find out what is misconfigured."
[12:29] <kaps> Agent_bob: sure
[12:29] <Drahy> Hi pla doesn anyone know how to create my own channel on this freenode server? Zhx
[12:30] <Agent_bob> kaps shalom.  i go now.
[12:30] <chazco> EnvoyRising - Couldnt get it to work over LAN, so used another HDD. The first one (the USB one) wouldnt work
[12:30] <Liono> can any one help me how to enable direct hardware acceleration for good graphics. direct rendering managmnet is disabled in m case. how to enable it? i have intel p4 builtin vga?
[12:30] <kaps> Agent_bob: bye, and thanks again
[12:30] <wain> i need the new alsa-lib - it will never be present in gusty?
[12:30] <EnvoyRising> Drahy: just type / join <name of new room
[12:30] <chazco> Drahy - You can just join it and it'll be created. Then look up how to register it if your serious
[12:30] <EnvoyRising> >
[12:30] <zackie_> EnvoyRising: I think that might be over my head:( Reading up on the how to part... I wouldn't know what i would be doing sadly
[12:30] <kbrooks> chazco, um, what version of truecrypt is on both?
[12:30] <chazco> The latest (the one with the GUI)
[12:30] <kaps> ere4si: any inputs?
[12:30] <ac1d> ipods and ubuntu? what apps or tools can i use?
[12:30] <sergio2> someone spanish??
[12:31] <ere4si> kaps: thinking and cooking and eating
[12:31] <chazco> !es
[12:31] <Drahy> Yeah I mean with rights and so...
[12:31] <EnvoyRising> zackie_: just type /join #my_new_room
[12:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:31] <beebeentu> Hello all, I have a problem with new gutsy install and firefox. firefox crashes when i open 3 windows. 2 is okay. but three is no good
[12:31] <EnvoyRising> that'll get you started.. if thats over your head, god help you
[12:31] <kandinski> is it me, or is anjuta on 7.10 totally hosed?
[12:31] <EnvoyRising> kandinski: i hate anjuta... text editors ftw
[12:31] <kbrooks> chazco, double check to be sure
[12:31] <ac1d> lol
[12:31] <kaps> ere4si: hahahaha, you do a lot of mult processing, strong processor man!!!
[12:32] <ac1d> ipods and ubuntui!
[12:32] <chazco> kbrooks - 5.0a
[12:32] <ere4si> kaps: you tried to mount and got the error "wrong fs  bad superblock" etc yes?
[12:32] <gcj> hi all, please could someone verify this bug for me? type "cd //" in a terminal (without quotes), does it hang forever?
[12:32] <kaps> ere4si: yes
[12:32] <ere4si> kaps hehe :)
[12:32] <kbrooks> gcj, no
[12:32] <kbrooks> chazco, are you sure that this is the same on both?
[12:32] <chazco> Yep
[12:32] <zackie_> EnvoyRising: what was that to do?
[12:32] <ac1d> IPODS AND UBUNTU!
[12:32] <TrapperDave> When Amarok starts I get the error message "Xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers". How can I fix this?
[12:33] <ere4si> kaps: that tells me the os found the cd but couldn't make it work...
[12:33] <chazco> The drive was encrypted ages ago, but all editions are supposed to be compatible anyway
[12:33] <beebeentu> i did google search but don't see other people with same problem.
[12:33] <kaps> ere4si : yeah I agree, but then isnt there any way?
[12:33] <Drahy> So channel with some rights and so? And the manuals are complicated for me what i have to do exactly pls :-)
[12:33] <ere4si> kaps: take the cd out and give it a gentle wipe
[12:33] <beebeentu> Does anyone encounter this problem with firefox crashing?
[12:34] <ac1d> Ubuntu and ipod please help! what can i use?
[12:34] <EnvoyRising> zackie_: /join #zackies_house
[12:34] <chazco> Firefox crashes a lot when on Youtube or sites with moving flash etc
[12:34] <erUSUL> !ipod | ac1d
[12:34] <ubotu> ac1d: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:34] <TrapperDave> ac1d: I've been advised that Amarok is really useful for iPod and Ubuntu usage.
[12:34] <Dudenumerone> hi dudes make money on http://www.biggestboom.com/ref.php?user=Bigbam
[12:34] <Dudenumerone> hi dudes make money on http://www.biggestboom.com/ref.php?user=Bigbam
[12:34] <beebeentu> chazco: but mine crashes when I open three windows
[12:34] <ere4si> kaps: as a check - get a cd that you know works and see if that auto mounts or can be mounted
[12:34] <__Oz__> HALLO UBUNTU FRIENDS!
[12:34] <chazco> Nope, dont get that often
[12:34]  * faileas takes away __Oz__ 's sugar ;p
[12:34] <beebeentu> Can you help me with that problem?
[12:35] <gcj> kbrooks, thanks
[12:35] <kaps> ere4si: I did that and it works, I mean another cd
[12:35] <tarelerulz> Have any of you had program not pic up you mic at all? Is that normal
[12:35] <ere4si> kaps: so it is only the one cd?
[12:35] <faileas> hmm
[12:35] <zackie_> EnvoyRising: and this solves....?
[12:35] <faileas> isn't ubuntu supposed to automount a windows drive in a dualboot automatically?
[12:35] <chazco> kbrooks - Copying from the new HDD to a truecrypt partition on the other PC works fine (same files, as a test)... so i'm guessing its the USB HDD thats faultyy
[12:36] <chazco> It is several years old
[12:36] <beebeentu> Hello. Can someone help me with firefox crashing problem
[12:36] <kaps> ere4si: yeah, gentle wipe didnt help
[12:36] <kaps> ere4si: I forgot to tell you its not a cd its a dvd
[12:37] <kaps> ere4si: shouldnt  make any difference though?
[12:37] <kbrooks> chazco, wel, get everything off the usb hdd and reformat the hdd, maybe it'll resolve itself after you reformat
[12:37] <chazco> Considering that now
[12:37] <ere4si> kaps: then boot into windows - copy the data to somewhere you know then reboot into ubuntu and copy it over - as a solution
[12:37] <Lacrymology> has anyone been able to mount their PSP to ubuntu?
[12:37] <ere4si> cd - dvd is the same os wise kaps
[12:37] <thew00> hi, any1 know anything about network bonding? pls qry me
[12:38] <beebeentu> Okay. Can someone help me with DVD codecs? I follow instructions but it still doesn't work
[12:38] <kaps> ere4si: hehehe, that I will , but just wanted to know if there is any bug
[12:38] <EnvoyRising> zacki_: you said you wanted your own room, right?
[12:38] <erudified> Is there a channel for hardy?
[12:38] <ere4si> kaps: from what you say the bug is in the one cd...
[12:38] <kbrooks> erudified, #ubuntu+1
[12:38] <kaps> ere4si: anyway thanks a lot
[12:39] <ere4si> k lots of luck kaps
[12:39] <beebeentu> Can someone help me plese
[12:39] <Mushrooms> Hi guys, a quick question, When i open up the synaptic package manager, in the left hand side there is a section which has labels All, Installed, Installed (auto removal) and not installed. What does "Installed (auto removal)" mean?
[12:39] <EnvoyRising> !ask | beebeentu
[12:39] <ubotu> beebeentu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:39] <erudified> Thanks krbrooks!
[12:39] <kaps> ere4si: thanks, and is there any channel called #python?
[12:39] <kbrooks> kaps, yes
[12:39] <john___> Hi guys. How can I find out exactly what processors I have? I just know its a pentium d but I need the number.
[12:39] <kbrooks> kaps, without the ?
[12:40] <ere4si> kaps: yep try /j #python
[12:40] <EnvoyRising> python...how you taunt me so
[12:40] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: can you help me with my problem? Firefox keep crashing when I open three windows
[12:40] <erUSUL> john___: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:40] <Odd-rationale> john___: lspci?
[12:40] <john___> thanks!
[12:40] <nasamo> Hi guys I have the same problem Bebeentu has. My firefox queeps freezing....
[12:40] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, it means that you removed package X, and when X was installed, it needed certain other packages. but since X is removed, these certain other packages are unnecessary
[12:40] <EnvoyRising> beebeentu: run firefox from command line, open the three windows so that it crashes, then paste the error in paste.ubuntu-nl.org so that we can all help you
[12:41] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: so is it ok if i uninstall them? or should i keep them?
[12:41] <kaps> kbrooks : I cant login
[12:41] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, double check to make sure it's okay
[12:42] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, with something like gtkorphan
[12:42] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: is there a way that i can check for dependencies?
[12:42] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, um, apt-cache rdepends <package> for that case
[12:42] <john___> guys, I tried both those commands but I still dont know if my pentium D is say a 9xx or an 8xx. Any more suggestions?
[12:42] <kaps> ere4si: it saysyou need to be identified
[12:42] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: I just try but it doesn't crash properly. The 2 window open go gray. and no error message come up on terminal
[12:43] <ere4si> !register | kaps
[12:43] <ubotu> kaps: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[12:43] <kbrooks> kaps, yes, /msg nickserv register <password>
[12:43] <TrapperDave> I've just tried starting Amarok for the first time since reinstallation and it hangs on the splash screen. How can I fix it?
[12:43] <ac1d> did you know that if you freeze a puppy and shove a stick in it somewhere, then you can sell it in mexico under the name Puppsicle
[12:44] <john___> Just had an idea, maybe the bios will tell me.
[12:44] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: the list is small... so i guess i can do that. which leads me to my next question, Say i required package X, and package X dependened upon package Y, so when i use synaptic package manger, it installs both X and Y. Now, when I want to get rid of X, does the dependency still hold? and remove Y as well?
[12:44] <idyllic> john___: sudo lshw
[12:44] <gnari> hello folks. i want to print onto a printer connected by USB to a windows machine on my network. the printer is a EPSON stylus pro 3800, which is not listed by the system-config-printer.py applet under System->Administration menu. i tried selecting epson stylus pro 5000, but no luck.
[12:44] <idyllic> -.-;; he just left..
[12:44] <gnari> is this unlikely to work, or am i almost there?
[12:44] <kaps> thanks
[12:45] <Pici> ac1d: This is a support channel, if you just want to say random things, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place.
[12:45] <Pici> ac1d: Keep in mind our Code of Conduct as well (/msg ubotu coc)
[12:45] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, yes
[12:45] <ariyako> hi
[12:46] <leitao> hello. What is the name of the package which contains the syscall man pages?
[12:46] <imc1> gday everyone. Running 7.10, and despite the warning that it could happen, I turned on "special" graphics including the "make desktop workspaces a cube" and it clobbered my multiple desktops. Can anyone help me find them and get them back?
[12:46] <ariyako> wonder why my internel  card reader not working
[12:46] <ariyako> :D
[12:46] <EnvoyRising> beebeentu: hmm... well, i guess you could check your system log...
[12:46] <EnvoyRising> find that under system > admin > sys log btw
[12:47] <EnvoyRising> hopefully something useful in thee
[12:47] <EnvoyRising> there*
[12:47] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: so, if i were to invoke apt-cache redepends <package name> and it gave me a list, it would mean that the packages in the list needs this particular package?
[12:47] <tarelerulz> I am trying to use EKiga .   My problem is the sound don't seem to work. It can't read my mic . I know the mic works . and the sound on my system works so  . Can any one help me
[12:47] <__Oz__> HALLO UBUNTU FRIENDS!
[12:47] <ariyako> Feb 19 20:47:48 X-12 kernel: [ 3901.941491] usb 5-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 78
[12:47] <dubcat> hi folks - ive given up trying to get my mic working on my Dell D630 laptop :(
[12:48] <jpatrick> !repeat > __Oz__
[12:48] <jpatrick> !caps > __Oz__
[12:48] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, rdepends means reverse depends. so if X depends on Y (which is what depends will show), rdepends on Y will show X
[12:48] <dubcat> i bought myself a plantronic usb headset - do i just plug it in?
[12:48] <__Oz__> jpatrick: easy, brother, easy.  Just jubilation in the mornin', my friend.
[12:48] <imc1> dubcat - you should be able to, yes
[12:48] <dubcat> imc1 cheers - ill do that now.
[12:48] <jpatrick> __Oz__: you've said it at least twice tho, and #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place :)
[12:49] <imc1> So any help here for me with my multiple workspace drama?
[12:49] <__Oz__> Just twice, actually, and only by mistake.  And now all this discussion over it is more off-topic stuff by approximately 300% than if you'd simply left it alone. :)
[12:49] <__Oz__> imc1: let's hear the problem.  I will try to help.
[12:49] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, so feel free to infer away
[12:49] <imc1> I'm running 7.10, and despite the warning that it could happen, I turned on "special" graphics including the "make desktop workspaces a cube" and it clobbered my multiple desktops. Can anyone help me find them and get them back?
[12:49] <imc1> Thanks _Oz_
[12:49] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: I see, that means that if i got a list for rdepends, then i probably should leave that package alone >.< ok, thanks for your help ^-^
[12:49] <__Oz__> Describe the problem in detail, sir.
[12:49] <Gothfunc> what's the best reasonably priced wireless mouse to get?
[12:49] <EnvoyRising> __Oz__: thats why i handle all my off-topic ramblings in ubuntu-offtopic, lol
[12:49] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, no
[12:50] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, you're ... errr, wrong
[12:50] <__Oz__> EnvoyRising: excellent idea!
[12:50] <imc1> _Oz_ - I thought I just did ;)
[12:50] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: hahaha ok, then what should i be thinking?
[12:50] <tuna> so, I wanna install ubuntu on a machine where ubuntu cannot recocgniz the cd drive, and where I cannot have a web connection. How should I do it?
[12:50] <__Oz__> How am I supposed to figure out what "multiple workspace drama" means, imc1?
[12:50] <imc1> No, I posted this:
[12:50] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, well, wrong as in "think again, you probably jumped to conclusions"
[12:50] <imc1> I'm running 7.10, and despite the warning that it could happen, I turned on "special" graphics including the "make desktop workspaces a cube" and it clobbered my multiple desktops. Can anyone help me find them and get them back?
[12:50] <imc1> After that :)
[12:50] <__Oz__> oh.  sure.
[12:51] <dubcat> imc1 i think they want to know what clobbered your desktop means.. can you see any windows etc?
[12:51] <kbrooks> ok, bye
[12:51] <imc1> dubcat, thanks,
[12:51] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: sorry?
[12:51] <__Oz__> Open the "Advanced Graphics Manager" or whatever it's called.  (Not in front of an ubuntu machine right now, so bear with me.)
[12:51] <EnvoyRising> __Oz__: lmao.. its when one workspace's girlfriend finds out about the other workkspace's baby's mama and they start to argue
[12:51] <faileas> tuna: do you have some way of getting files in?
[12:51] <imc1> What iI mean is that iI now have only one desktop workspace not four
[12:51] <Viktorious> hi how do i remove an app
[12:51] <__Oz__> The same interface where you set up the spinning cube.
[12:51] <imc1> and I cannot seem to add any new ones
[12:51] <knifepoint> Gahhhhhhhhhh i thought NVIDIA was meant to be strides above ati in the drivers stakes why is it i cant get my 7600GS out of vesa mode
[12:51] <__Oz__> Click on the "general" tab.
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, thats why i also said to double check with deborphn
[12:51] <EnvoyRising> Viktorious: sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[12:51] <Odd-rationale> imc1: Right click the workspace switcher
[12:51] <dubcat> imc1 go to system/preference/advanced desktop settings
[12:51] <__Oz__> Find the number of vertical and horizontal desktops.  Set the horiz. number to the desired amount.
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, and/or gtkorphan
[12:52] <dubcat> imc1 in there you can disable cube etc and renable the desktop wall
[12:52] <__Oz__> imc1: that applies to you as well.
[12:52] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: i understand. which one do you recommend? for a newbie
[12:52] <imc1> dubcat,  Odd-rationale, and _Oz_ thanks, trying
[12:52] <Odd-rationale> imc1: Do you have compiz on or off?
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mushrooms, gtkorphan
[12:52] <faileas> tuna: if your HDD is partitioned already, you could use wubi to make an image install, the LVPM to move it over... you'll need to get wubi-installer and the disk on the HDD with windows tho
[12:52]  * __Oz__ loves compiz
[12:53] <imc1> Ofdd-Rationale - sorry how would I know?
[12:53]  * Odd-rationale does not like compiz
[12:53] <Mushrooms> kbrooks: great thanks for your help!
[12:53] <tuna> faileas: I have plenty of unpartitioned space
[12:53] <dubcat> if he has cubes he must have compiz on right?
[12:53] <TrapperDave> Does anyone have any experience with Amarok? Mine just freezes on the splash screen
[12:53] <faileas> tuna: and i assume a windows partition?
[12:53] <imc1> Interesting that I don't have System>Preferences>Advanced Desktop Settings.
[12:53] <faileas> (i hope, else it gets REALLY tricky)
[12:53] <dubcat> ahh you didnt install compiz fusion im guessing
[12:53] <tuna> faileas: how do I use wubi if the machine doesn't have a web connection
[12:53] <EnvoyRising> TrapperDave: you running kde?
[12:53] <dubcat> how did you enable cubes exactly?
[12:53] <Odd-rationale> imc1: Go go System --> pref --> appearance and see if visual effects are enabled
[12:54] <erUSUL> !ccsm | dubcat
[12:54] <ubotu> dubcat: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[12:54] <TrapperDave> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 with GNOME I think. I only started using Linux like a week go so it's all very new to me.
[12:54] <imc1> Ah
[12:54] <tuna> faileas: yes, a windows partition and I can get the cd and wubi to that machine
[12:54] <__Oz__> Odd-rationale: that's an...  odd rationale to have.  Why don't you like compiz?  It's really super!
[12:54] <imc1> Yes they are; it says "Normal"
[12:54] <EnvoyRising> if no one here can help you, #kubuntu may be more helpful
[12:54] <Viktorious> can someone help me with wine noone in wine room is doin anyhtng pathetic
[12:54] <__Oz__> trapperdave: yeah, I use it...  no freezes though.
[12:54] <EnvoyRising> wine...**cringes**
[12:54] <faileas> tuna: wubi can use a CD image you downloade already if its in the same partition. I suggest the 7.10 version. Use that to do an install to the SAME DRIVE as windows
[12:54] <tuna> Viktoroius: what is the problem?
[12:54] <EnvoyRising> sure Viktorious what do you need?
[12:55] <TrapperDave> Thank you EnvoyRising.
[12:55] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: I looked but which section? syslog? it doesn't show anything for last 30 mins
[12:55] <Viktorious> i wanna know why it always installs on windows partition rather then linux one
[12:55] <tuna> faileas: ok
[12:55] <faileas> tuna: then boot into wubi and install LVPM (you'll need to copy this over too) and use that to move it to another partition
[12:55] <__Oz__> Question: are viruses at all a problem for Linux?  I don't run an anti-virus proggie in Ubuntu.  Should I?  I've always believed Linux to be far more secure against that sort of tripe.
[12:55] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: I liked it when I first started using linux. But that kind of wore off...
[12:55] <faileas> tuna: so all you'll need is a 1 gig USB drive prettymuch ;)
[12:55] <Odd-rationale> !virus | __Oz__
[12:55] <ubotu> __Oz__: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:55] <EnvoyRising> beebeentu: dang..i'm trying to get a more descriptive explanation of whats going on with your firefox
[12:55] <Axioplase> Hi
[12:55] <__Oz__> Odd-rationale: I mostly like the cube and the ability to flip through windows in big/easy to read ways
[12:56] <Gothfunc> does no one have any advice on a wireless mouse purchase?
[12:56] <__Oz__> Thank you, Odd-Rationale.
[12:56] <K-Ton> Hi all
[12:56] <Axioplase> What package contains the javac command? (how can I find this out?)
[12:56] <erudified> Gothfunc, there's really no such thing as a good wireless mouse imo
[12:56] <erudified> I've yet to try one that didn't have a very noticable delay
[12:56] <__Oz__> Odd-Rationale: the system certainly runs a bit faster withOUT compiz
[12:56] <Viktorious> i wanna know why it always installs on windows partition rather then linux one wine that is
[12:56] <__Oz__> but I'm a sucker for that slick presentation
[12:56] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: I still have it installed to "show-off" to my windows friends. :) Other than that, I keep it off for everyday computing.
[12:56] <__Oz__> Viktorious: because that is how wine works.
[12:56] <erudified> __Oz__, I think it *feels* a lot faster
[12:56] <faileas> Viktorious: are you sure its the windows partition? ;p
[12:56] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: I open one window, I open a second window. Everything okay. I open three window and the window don't open. Then a few seconds more the two windows go gray
[12:56] <idyllic> axioplase: sun-java6-jdk
[12:56] <__Oz__> Odd-rationale: yeah, I can understand.
[12:57] <__Oz__> erudified: I'm with you.
[12:57] <tuna> faileas. thank you very much
[12:57] <Axioplase> thanks
[12:57] <Viktorious> pretty sure always takin my c drive
[12:57] <Gothfunc> erudified: mine seems fine there, but it just runs out of batteries after about an hour
[12:57] <dubcat> I have a plantronics USB headset - it's working fine - but how do i change the volume of this thing? the volume control on the lead is not work and im using skype with it fyi
[12:57] <faileas> tuna: its a bit time consume tho
[12:57] <erudified> Gothfunc, yeah there's just no way to win lol
[12:57] <Viktorious> so what happen when i sign bak in on windows partiton em i gonna have the games interfierring
[12:57] <faileas> Viktorious: no
[12:57] <erudified> I've never used one long enough to run out of battery, and I've bought quite a few of them
[12:57] <tuna> faileas: k, that's not a problem, not my time :)
[12:57] <faileas> wine's c drive is a folder
[12:57] <Viktorious> so it isnt realli going on my other hardrive
[12:58] <faileas> no
[12:58] <ArthurArchnix> Hey... anyone here actually use apparmor? I know it's installed by default, but I don't think it's actually doing anything. "sudo apparmour_status" returns that the module is loaded, but there are zero profiles and zero processes in use.
[12:58] <faileas> it isn't
[12:58] <Gothfunc> erudified: what price range did you go for?
[12:58] <Viktorious> oh thank god so when it comes up c drive program files dsnt matter
[12:58] <|Dreams|> has nayone managed to get virtual box to use a dvd writer
[12:58] <erudified> Gothfunc, I've gotten everything from the tiny $5 ones to the $60 logitech ones
[12:58] <erudified> I still use a MS Intellimouse Optical (with cord) from about 2000
[12:58] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: if it help, Epiphany work fine with many more windows than 3
[12:59] <erudified> But your mileage may vary
[12:59] <erudified> the delay (and some people have told me they don't notice it) just drives me insane
[12:59] <Viktorious> faileas: so c drive program fiels is wines little thing not acttully my other harddrive
[12:59] <faileas> Viktorious: ...
[12:59] <faileas> YES
[12:59] <Gothfunc> erudified: i might not notice it i guess
[12:59] <unicum> is there anything like a cool equalizer for rhythmbox.. or for the whole system?
[12:59] <Viktorious> haha ok thanks heaps
[12:59] <faileas> its a folder on your linux drive
[12:59] <unicum> running ubuntu 7.10
[13:00] <faileas> erudified: MS makes great peripherals ;p
[13:00] <erudified> yeah the damn mouse just won't die lol
[13:00] <Odd-rationale> Viktorious: You can find you wine "C:\" in ~/.wine/drive_c
[13:00] <EnvoyRising_> not sure what qualifies as cool, but off the top of my head, there's alsa mixer, unicum
[13:00] <Gothfunc> i'd rather not buy microsoft hardware tbh
[13:01] <Gothfunc> it'd feel like funding terrorism
[13:01] <Gothfunc> ;o
[13:01] <unicum> EnvoyRising alsa mixer is not really an equalizer, is it? i mean it just does the volume level.. but nothing like treble, bass.. you know
[13:01] <Odd-rationale> My computer is from MS...
[13:01] <imc1> dubcat,  Odd-rationale, and _Oz_ thanks, that worked all is well. Have a good day
[13:01] <faileas> Gothfunc: *shrug* i go for whatever works for me ;p
[13:01] <Odd-rationale> imc1: You, too
[13:01] <erudified> hahah, well, I figure if my hand is gonna spend some significant portion of it's time on a device, it may as well be one that I like
[13:01] <bsdnewb07> hmm guys ive installed ubuntu when i type i sudo su   i get the error my username is not in the sudorers file a log has been created and then i get a postfix error :/
[13:01] <erudified> try sudo -s
[13:01] <erudified> sudo su is kinda silly
[13:01] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: Did you see my messagesss? Please let me know if you can't help me more.
[13:01] <bsdnewb07> k
[13:02] <erudified> but be careful with sudo -s, it'll change the perms of e.g., your .vimrc file
[13:02] <EnvoyRising_> i didn't see your last messages beebeentu got disconnected
[13:02] <shingouz> ideas where to find things like tun-source, bcm4400-source, thinkpad-source and madwifi-source? looks like the fresh ubuntu does not like to let me compile the modules because the source keeps on missing
[13:02] <faileas> Odd-rationale: MS builds PCs?
[13:02] <bsdnewb07> whats sudo -s do?
[13:02] <rsa_md5> hi, the network manager applet has been behaving strange lately, i am using an atheros chipset wifi NIC....it gets disconnected from the network and yet the icon does not change.....i am using 7.04
[13:02] <EnvoyRising_> bsdnewb07: !man
[13:02] <erudified> bsdnewb07, it gives your current shell root privileges
[13:02] <Gothfunc> erudified: you make it sound even dirtier with the ms mouse
[13:02] <Gothfunc> ;)
[13:02] <Pici> shingouz: apt-get source packagename
[13:02] <EnvoyRising_> !man | bsdnewb07
[13:02] <ubotu> bsdnewb07: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:02] <bsdnewb07> but only if your in the sudoers file tho?
[13:03] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:I open one window, I open a second window. Everything okay. I open three window and the window don't open. Then a few seconds more the two windows go gray
[13:03] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising: if it help, Epiphany work fine with many more windows than 3
[13:03] <Odd-rationale> faileas: No, I didn't mean that. I just has a "MS Asset" sticker on it. It really belongs to my dad - A MS employee.
[13:03] <shingouz> Pici: i know about that, i just seem to be missing the sources. in other words: repositories do not seem to have them
[13:03] <faileas> Odd-rationale: ahh ;p
[13:03] <EnvoyRising_> how fast of a processor and how much ram do you have beebeentu
[13:03] <EnvoyRising_> ?*
[13:03] <EnvoyRising_> and why 3 windows?
[13:03] <bsdnewb07> EnvoyRising i run fine in 256
[13:03] <faileas> Odd-rationale: MS employy's kid using linux? !!! ;p
[13:04] <Isoplast> hey
[13:04] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Shhhh.
[13:04] <shingouz> Pici: ..and now that i remember, they are all enabled in sources.list
[13:04] <bsdnewb07> but id imagine 32mb ram would work, linux isnt fussy on ram like windows is
[13:04] <faileas> lol
[13:04] <Isoplast> can someone help me ?
[13:04] <Pici> shingouz: You need to make sure that you have the deb-src repositories for each of your normal deb lines
[13:04] <nanobytes> got detected that my boot linux it on /dev/hda2... and from my grub menu.lst, the root  is (hd0,1). is this right?
[13:04] <Pici> !offtopic | faileas Odd-rationale
[13:04] <ubotu> faileas Odd-rationale: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:04] <Isoplast> how do i enlarge the head of a window?
[13:04] <EnvoyRising_> usually if it goes grey it means its got too much to think about... unless theres a bug i'm unaware of or something
[13:04] <shingouz> eugh... sources.list is filled with comments :p
[13:04] <EnvoyRising_> don't think i have any more ideas though, beebeentu
[13:05] <faileas> bsdnewb07: XP works on as little as 64. lowest i've gone in ubuntu is 192, but thats cause i'm not that familair with it. I suspect it can go pretty low on the right DE...
[13:05] <manchicken> I'm sure that this is a stupid question, but does Ubuntu come with a default firewall?
[13:05] <Odd-rationale> manchicken: no
[13:05] <idyllic> manchicken: no
[13:05] <beebeentu> 1.6Ghz duo centrino 1GB RAM
[13:05] <Pici> manchicken: iptables is installed, but no default rules for it exist.
[13:05] <Odd-rationale> manchicken: If you want one, I can suggest firestarter
[13:05] <Pici> !firewall | manchicken
[13:05] <ubotu> manchicken: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[13:06] <manchicken> Much thanks.
[13:06] <Isoplast> ?
[13:06] <Pici> Odd-rationale: Firestarter is just a front end to iptables (which exists on a default install)
[13:06] <Isoplast> :D
[13:06] <manchicken> Damn, that's the fastest I've ever gotten an answer in here.
[13:06] <manchicken> heh
[13:06] <Isoplast> my window is broken
[13:06] <Odd-rationale> Pici: Yes.
[13:06] <shingouz> Pici: main, universe, restricted and multiverse are all enabled for both deb and deb-src. done apt-get update too
[13:06] <Isoplast> can someone explain me how to change the size of the windowhead?
[13:07] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: oh and it work fine with edgy install on this machine for 1yr+ until upgrade today
[13:07] <Pici> shingouz: Give me a package name that you can't get the source for, I want to take a look.
[13:07] <shingouz> thinkpad-source, madwifi-source, tun-source Pici
[13:07] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: wow. def. more going on than i know how to help with. sorry about that
[13:08] <Pici> shingouz: Are you doing: apt-get source tun-source? or apt-get source tun?
[13:08] <Isoplast> hey guys
[13:08] <Isoplast> please
[13:08] <Isoplast> :D
[13:08] <Isoplast> help me!
[13:08] <Isoplast> im loosing my mind
[13:08] <cleaton> window head?
[13:08] <Pici> Isoplast: You need to explain your question better, I dont think anyone knows what you are talking about.
[13:08] <Odd-rationale> Isoplast: I don't get what you want to do...
[13:08] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: Do you know other  person I can talk to? No one helps unless I break etiquette rules to get attention. I don't like that
[13:09] <Isoplast> i mean
[13:09] <Isoplast> the window
[13:09] <erudified> beebeentu, well, you could offer some cash ;)
[13:09] <Pici> !enter
[13:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:09] <Isoplast> if you open firefox for example
[13:09] <jim_beam> I have not been able to install e17 (enlightenment) anyone have success?
[13:09] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:to who
[13:09] <Isoplast> you have a headtab
[13:09] <Isoplast> wich you can drag and drop
[13:09] <Pici> Isoplast: Please don't use enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <bsdnewb07> ive trid sudo -s
[13:09] <Kase1> is there some problem with the internet today? i cant reach www.google.de(no dns resolve) or paypal.com an cnn.com (no ping reply)
[13:09] <Isoplast> ok sorry...
[13:09] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: well the problem is that the issue you are having is a bit unique. its not so general in nature, so its likely that if you aren't getting answers now, you'll have to wait for another time. then. google is pretty good too..lemme see something
[13:09] <bsdnewb07> i enter my password, says its not in the sudoers file
[13:10] <bsdnewb07> and an error has been logged then sendmail creates an error
[13:10] <bsdnewb07> or postfix
[13:10] <cleaton> Isoplast, you want to resize a window?
[13:10] <Kase1> other pages are ok
[13:10] <Isoplast> if you open firefox, you have a titlebar, wich you can also drag and drop. i only want to resize the titlebar, because it is very small...
[13:10] <bsdnewb07> whats the ubuntu default admin password?
[13:10] <erudified> Kase1, U.S. Special Forces have been systematically disconnecting the eastern hemisphere in preparation for establishing global hegemony
[13:10] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:I tried google before come here. I don't find nothing but I don't really know what search words to use.
[13:11] <Pici> !root | bsdnewb07
[13:11] <ubotu> bsdnewb07: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:11] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: i'm trying too. maybe you ddint' have the right keywords. only thing i can suggest is trying a newer version of firefox
[13:11] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, use your normal user passwd with sudo
[13:11] <cleaton> Isoplast, i think you need to change theme to do that. you have the default theme?
[13:11] <Kase1> im in germany? ok its east of us but,
[13:11] <Isoplast> cleaton jep
[13:11] <bsdnewb07> k dkd
[13:12] <bsdnewb07> i did
[13:12] <bsdnewb07> it says shellhosts the username i added during setup does not exist in the sudoers file
[13:12] <EnvoyRising_> btw. do you have a lot of extensions beebeentu?
[13:12] <Odd-rationale> Isoplast: I think I know what you're talking about. I know it is possible, just don't remember how. Try playing with some stuff in Appearance
[13:12] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: I never know how to upgrade to latest version on linux. I have 2.0.0.12. I remove all extensions.
[13:12] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, new install?
[13:12] <bsdnewb07> yeh Brownster
[13:13] <dubcat> ahh i found my USB headset volume issue at launchpad
[13:13] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, r u using the a/c created at install
[13:13] <cleaton> Isoplast, system -> preferences -> appearance -> customize -> window boarder
[13:13] <EnvoyRising_> beebeentu: to be honest, i never upgrade. i just backup and do clean installs
[13:13] <bsdnewb07> yeh Brownster
[13:13] <bsdnewb07> it lets me login file
[13:13] <bsdnewb07> fine*
[13:13] <erudified> dubcat, hehe, you remember when getting support for USB anything was a crapshoot?
[13:13] <dubcat> :)
[13:13] <erudified> Time marches on...
[13:13] <dubcat> yah -
[13:13] <Brownster> and u sure u didnt create any other a/c?
[13:14] <Isoplast> odd-rationale, ok... but the funny thing is, that i never changed the setting... when i started up the computer it just appeared like this
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> 100%
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> ive even done the reinstall to make sure
[13:14] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:That's what I do
[13:14] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, well do you have a live cd?
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> nah it wasnt live cd i used
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> it was the server based version
[13:14] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_:I mean upgrade from Edgy to Gutsy but I do clean install.
[13:14] <bsdnewb07> the text based installer
[13:15] <cleaton> Isoplast, your window boarders suddenly got smaller?
[13:15] <EnvoyRising> oh. well either way i don't have anything else to try, sorry about that
[13:15] <Isoplast> cleaton jep ! :D
[13:15] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, not sure if server version would be different in way it uses sudo,
[13:15] <Pici> Isoplast: Do have even *any* window borders?
[13:15] <bsdnewb07> i just dont get it
[13:15] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, one way around the problem ...
[13:15] <shingouz> Pici: sorry, phone....
[13:15] <Isoplast> pici yes, i still have it, but the font is very small
[13:15] <bsdnewb07> yeh?
[13:15] <EnvoyRising> hey, does anyone know of a destop environment other than gnome, kde, and xfce? i know of plenty of windows managers, but no other de's
[13:15] <beebeentu> EnvoyRising_: Thanks for trying.
[13:16] <cleaton> Isoplast,  oh so it's just the font that is small?
[13:16] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, get any live cd and boot using that, into a live cd environment. mount the root partition of ubuntu anywhere you like, then edit the sudoers file
[13:16] <Trashlord> hello
[13:16] <Isoplast> cleaton, no, the bar has also got smaller
[13:16] <shingouz> Pici: apt-get source tun and apt-get source tun-source both error out "cannot find a source package for tun[-source]"
[13:16] <Trashlord> I have a problem with my sound card
[13:17] <cleaton> Isoplast, the bar gets samller if you change the font
[13:17] <Trashlord> See, my sound card is a Creative Labs, EMU 1212m
[13:17] <bsdnewb07> heck
[13:17] <Trashlord> It's not detected at all
[13:17] <bsdnewb07> and they say ubuntu is easy lol
[13:17] <__Oz__> Whomever gave me this link: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[13:17] <__Oz__> Thank you.
[13:17] <cleaton> Isoplast, go to system -> preferences -> appearance -> fonts  and change window title font to maybe 10px
[13:17] <Isoplast> cleaton, and how do i change the font back to the default setting?
[13:17] <__Oz__> That's a very good read.  Now I understand why Linux is Virus-inhospitable.
[13:17] <Trashlord> I found a driver, which should work, but I can't compile it
[13:17] <chubby_sby> i have prob wit gyachy,handme please?
[13:18] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, well I dont know why u have this problemo, I haven't come across it before, perhaps it is to do with the server install,worth reading the install docs for clues?
[13:18] <cleaton> Isoplast, tell me if that helped
[13:18] <bsdnewb07> k
[13:18] <Trashlord> I've also downloaded the new version of ALSA, but when I do ./configure on it, it's telling me my C compiler cannot create executable files
[13:18] <Isoplast> cleaton, no it didnt... its already set on 10px
[13:18] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, at least u dont _need_ to reinstall :)
[13:18] <cleaton> Isoplast, try making it larger then
[13:19] <Viktorious> does anyone in here use xvidcap
[13:19] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, worth checking something, what does $ groups give you, are u in the admin group?
[13:19] <Isoplast> ah
[13:19] <Isoplast> now it worked
[13:19] <Isoplast> thank you a lot !
[13:19] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, might be 'adm'
[13:19] <Trashlord> Anyone?
[13:19] <cleaton> Isoplast, no problem =)
[13:20] <bsdnewb07> what do you mean
[13:20] <Pici> shingouz: Are you sure that those are proper package names? The only one that I can see that should work is thinkpad-source (but in that case, its just a regular package)
[13:20] <jim_beam> e17 sources directory please  forums seem not to work
[13:20] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, check what groups 'you' belong to, in a terminal type 'groups'
[13:20] <cleaton> Trashlord, you got all the dependences?
[13:21] <Trashlord> I need to get stdio.h
[13:21] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, u should get a list that includes 'adm' or maybe 'admin'
[13:21] <shingouz> Pici: apt-get install thinkpad-source "cannot find package thinpad-source" and the same with all the others too. even modules-assistant reports the same
[13:21] <Pici> Brownster: its 'admin'
[13:21] <Trashlord> I'm trying to install emu10k1
[13:21] <Trashlord> it requires that
[13:21] <Trashlord> do you know where can I get it?
[13:21] <Trashlord> googled, found nothing
[13:21] <Brownster> thanks Pici
[13:21] <Pici> !compile | Trashlord
[13:21] <ubotu> Trashlord: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[13:22] <Trashlord> Thanks
[13:22] <jim_beam> :( they don't like me here
[13:22] <shingouz> Pici: they should be the proper names.... i *could* do a straight compile from raw sources but i am not really in a mood for htat kind of screwing around this time
[13:22] <Pici> shingouz: I ask because I dont see them at all.
[13:22] <jim_beam> :) either that or im invisible
[13:22] <Trashlord> Woah dude
[13:23] <Trashlord> Thanks a lot, I just found I required a major dependency
[13:23] <Trashlord> Which I didn't have
[13:23] <bsdnewb07> its admin
[13:23] <bsdnewb07> does the user admin have a default password?
[13:23] <shingouz> Pici: so it is not only me this time... hmm... tun i absolutely need, acx100, ipw2200, madwifi and thinkpad would be nice
[13:23] <Pici> bsdnewb07: There is no admin user.
[13:24] <bsdnewb07> well when i installed ubuntu it said i couldnt have the user admin because it was taken by the system
[13:24] <Pici> shingouz: Have you looked in the kernel sources?
[13:25] <Dave_is_sexy> where do you get the live cd from?
[13:25] <Dave_is_sexy> It is not easy to find
[13:25] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[13:25] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, yes it's used as a 'group' name, hence users can be given membership of the admin group, then using sudo and entering your normal user password u can execute commands as 'root' or group 'admin', its the ubuntu way
[13:25] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: The DesktopCD is the LiveCD
[13:25] <dubcat> when i run alsamixer in a terminal it always shows me the details of my Intel sound card - how do i get it to show me my USB soundcard built in to my headphone cord?
[13:25] <shingouz> Pici: iirc they all are external thingies. at least thinkpad, madwifi and tun are
[13:26] <dubcat> more specifically i know its the -c or -D flags but i dont know how to find the name of those devices
[13:26] <Pici> shingouz: Then I'm not really sure, sorry :/
[13:26] <shingouz> ..unless, of course, ubuntu does things differently.... ;)
[13:26] <Dave_is_sexy> pici: but that's not live
[13:26] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: Which isnt?
[13:26] <Dave_is_sexy> any
[13:26] <Pici> Dave_is_sexy: The Desktop Edition is the LiveCD
[13:27] <Dave_is_sexy> oh
[13:27] <shingouz> Pici: the funny thing is that modules-assistant knows them by those names but it cannot find the sources. could they be in repositories for older releases?
[13:27] <Brownster> bsdnewb07, if you are in the 'admin' group like you say you are, you should be able to execute any command $sudo foo bar, and enter your password , thats it!
[13:27] <roddersg> anyone knows how to recover files from a hd that has been formatted to ext2 accidentally?
[13:27] <Dave_is_sexy> will it ask me to push a key or select 'start from cd' cos the machine it's needed for is keyboardless
[13:28] <Pici> shingouz: They are probably in the linux-restricted-modules or linux-ubuntu-modules packages for your kernel.
[13:28] <faileas> roddersg: testdisk will allow you to restore anything on the original partition that wasn't overwritten
[13:28] <Odd-rationale> Dave_is_sexy: Depends on you bios settings
[13:28] <Dave_is_sexy> ...which is why it's needed as a distro which includes an on screen keyboard and ntfs-3g driver
[13:28] <daaniel[1]> i have created this 4 TB partition with parted and and set label to GPT, then i format it with ext3 and use the filesystem, this works great until i reboot, then the filesystem show up with "?" instead of "rwx" and the messages log says it contains error - why is this happening every time?
[13:28] <Dave_is_sexy> good, my bios is set to boot from cd without question
[13:28] <Desert_Storm> How can i execute Warsow? I got the 0.41, i need to execute ''warsow.i386''
[13:28] <shailender_> Red Hat and Ubuntu Linux Top Enterprise Open-source Software
[13:28] <reto_> hi
[13:28] <reto_> during an hd-installation
[13:28] <shailender_> http://crazy4computers.blogspot.com/2008/02/red-hat-and-ubuntu-linux-top-enterprise.html
[13:29] <shingouz> Pici: restricted modules installed but tun. thinkpad and madwifi are all fully gpl... strange
[13:29] <reto_> I get the error message 'base-installation/no_codename'
[13:29] <Pici> !offtopic | shailender_
[13:29] <ubotu> shailender_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:29] <reto_> is there an eassy way to get this fixed?
[13:29] <Odd-rationale> Dave_is_sexy: The live cd will boot the Live environment if nothing is pressed after 30 secs.
[13:29] <shailender_> http://crazy4computers.blogspot.com/2008/02/red-hat-and-ubuntu-linux-top-enterprise.html
[13:29] <roddersg> faileas, how long will the recovery take
[13:29] <Dave_is_sexy> :)
[13:29] <daaniel[1]> when i then run e2fsck i get Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! Abort<y>? ...
[13:29] <faileas> roddersg: it isn't very fast,
[13:30] <Desert_Storm> How can i execute Warsow? I got the 0.41, i need to execute ''warsow.i386''
[13:30] <ccasey> has anyone had their apt-get update fail recently?
[13:30] <reto_> during an hd-installation I get the error message 'base-installation/no_codename'
[13:30] <Odd-rationale> ccasey: Try Aptitude
[13:30] <reto_> it seems to be unable to find the right version/codename
[13:30] <dubcat> ooooooh i found a gnome bug with alsamixer!
[13:30] <reto_> any idea how to fix that?
[13:30] <dubcat> or more specifically - ppl are complaining that their usb headset volume control is not working - but its a gnome issue in fact!
[13:30] <faileas> Desert_Storm: try ./warsow.i386?
[13:31] <roddersg> faileas, major oops happenning
[13:31] <__Oz__> Why don't we just use aptitude for everything?  It's so much better than apt-get.
[13:31] <shingouz> Pici: make-kpkg modules_image begins to sound a nice idea with some pure raw sources off the net
[13:31] <__Oz__> Or does aptitude only work with certain packages?
[13:31] <Desert_Storm> ./warsow.i386: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:31] <nanobytes_> i need a little help pls... to remove grub error 18, am planning to install again ubuntu using the livecd in manual mode.. coz they said that my boot partition is bigger to my bios thats why i wanna used the manual mode in installation
[13:31] <faileas> roddersg: i did it once, testdisk fixed it but i basically left it overnight after the inital stages
[13:31] <ccasey> )dd-rationale - it hangs here Get:235 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-backports/multiverse Sources [2264B]
[13:31] <ccasey> 99% [20 Packages bzip2 0]
[13:32] <roddersg> faileas, I think the directory section and the beginning part got wiped out
[13:32] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Yes you can use aptitude instaed of apt-get for about anything. Just remember that ssynaptic uses apt-get
[13:32] <ccasey> with aptitude as well as apt-get
[13:32] <faileas> roddersg: i once reformatted a disk TWICE and got everything back
[13:32] <Desert_Storm> Faileas, i got the error: ./warsow.i386: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:32] <faileas> give it a shot, its good stuff
[13:32] <Odd-rationale> ccasey: Have you retried?
[13:32] <ccasey> yes
[13:32] <faileas> Desert_Storm: install livcurl
[13:32] <__Oz__> Odd-Rationale: why doesn't synaptic switch to aptitude?
[13:32] <faileas> Desert_Storm: install libcurl
[13:32] <Desert_Storm> Where can i get it_
[13:32] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Dunno
[13:32] <daaniel[1]> is it because im using ext3 filessytem with parted??
[13:33] <dubcat> i suppose i should share my bug findings on launchpad and not here right?
[13:33] <__Oz__> And I still don't "get" what makes synaptic better than add/remove.
[13:33] <Pici> dubcat: yes.
[13:33] <__Oz__> What's the advantage of synaptic?  Best I can tell is simply access to more repos.
[13:34] <ccasey> _Oz_ - its just a different way to do the same thing, slightly less user friendly
[13:34] <__Oz__> ccasey: right.  So why's it in there? :)
[13:34] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: More control over the packages. Also, add/remove does not lists packages, but rather more like the applications
[13:34] <credible> because it's more powerful
[13:34] <__Oz__> ccasey: why not just leave add/remove as the only gui package installer?
[13:34] <__Oz__> credible: powerful in what way?
[13:34] <ccasey> It lets you pic and choose libs and other things where as Add/Remove sticks mostly with programs
[13:34] <Pici> __Oz__: Because your power/developer-user wouldnt want that.
[13:34] <erUSUL> __Oz__: becouse add remove is too high level for some uses
[13:34] <nanobytes_> i guess am now on my own... dunnno really what to do about this fcking grub error 18...
[13:34] <__Oz__> libs?  libraries? What's an example of when you'd need to do this?
[13:35] <Desert_Storm> Faileas, where can i get libcurl_
[13:35] <erUSUL> __Oz__: compiling software
[13:35] <K-Ton> !usplash > K-Ton
[13:35] <__Oz__> Mm.
[13:35] <ccasey> _Oz_ you may want a specific kernel other than Generic
[13:35] <faileas> Desert_Storm: apt i guess
[13:35] <__Oz__> Me being a n00b, I guess add/remove is the right thing to use.
[13:35] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get libcurl_
[13:35] <Desert_Storm> ?
[13:35] <ccasey> or to add a dev package that goes along with a program
[13:35] <__Oz__> Yeah, I've seen dev packages in there.
[13:35] <faileas> Desert_Storm: no underscore, and use search first
[13:36] <Odd-rationale> ccasey: I really don't know what is wrong. Sorry.
[13:36] <Desert_Storm> Okay, thanks =)
[13:36] <__Oz__> So Add/Remove was included in Ubuntu for idiots like me, while smart people across the Linuxverse appreciate the power of Synaptic.  Is that about right?
[13:36] <Pici> __Oz__: yes ;)
[13:36] <faileas> __Oz__: though some people stick to apt ;p
[13:36] <ccasey> _Oz_ - just pick what works best with your workflow, and dont get hung up on the details.  If you find yourself needing synaptic one day, you will use it.
[13:36] <__Oz__> faileas: you mean the command line apt?
[13:36] <faileas> its faster when you know exactly what you want
[13:36] <faileas> __Oz__: yup
[13:36] <faileas> i do ;p
[13:36] <dubcat> woot - that's the first time i've every contributed to helping track down the cause of a bug :)
[13:36] <__Oz__> ccasey: I have used synaptic plenty (when following instructions from a webpage or something) but never understood the value of using it.
[13:37] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Synaptic is a debian thing, not just ubuntu. Add/Remove is a gnome app
[13:37] <__Oz__> Ahhh
[13:37] <Odd-rationale> *frontend
[13:37] <Pici> __Oz__: Everything in the end still uses apt to get stuff from the repositories. apt-get, aptitude, add/remove, synaptic, adept, etc...
[13:37] <ccasey> Odd-rationale, thanks for the help.
[13:37] <__Oz__> that helps shed some light.
[13:37] <__Oz__> Pici: right...  so synaptic is just another way of doing it, with "finer" control over what you get (i.e. dev packages and whatnot.)
[13:37] <Odd-rationale> Me. CLI all the way. :)
[13:37] <ccasey> damn, is no-one else having problems running an update lately?
[13:38] <__Oz__> When you run an "updatedb" what exactly is happening?
[13:38] <dubcat> __oz__ i started off using synaptic because it was easier for me (as an ex windows user).. as i got more familiar with my machine and with linux in general i moved on to apt-get which is easier now that i understand a little aobut what is going on around me
[13:38] <__Oz__> dubcat: but don't you need to learn some switches and flags to use with apt-get?
[13:38] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: an index of your filesystem is created
[13:38] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Not a lot
[13:39] <white_eagle> why doesn't backspace work in terminal?
[13:39] <white_eagle> (I have gnu screen running)
[13:39] <faileas> __Oz__: not really
[13:39] <dubcat> __oz__ not really - you just install :) and generally when i need to add a repository or something the website relating to the softaware i want to install will tell me exactly what to type in to terminal anyway
[13:39] <__Oz__> prince-jammys: I thought it was updating all the software you have by comparing it with the repos you downloaded it from.  Is that true?
[13:39] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Just "apt-get install package" and "apt-get remove package" :)
[13:39] <__Oz__> odd-rationale: yeah, I've used that.
[13:39] <__Oz__> but using the command line you can't "search" for a package, can you?
[13:39] <faileas> Odd-rationale:  __Oz__ don't forget apt-cache search ;p
[13:39] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Apt-cache
[13:40] <__Oz__> Ah.  First I've heard of that one.
[13:40] <dubcat> __oz__ just use whatever you are familiar and comfortable with - if you like synaptic use it
[13:40] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Or aptitude search if you like aptitude
[13:40] <_coredump_> moinsen
[13:40] <white_eagle> ok found it
[13:40] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: apt-cache search::: search for packages   apt-cache show:: show a specific package (sudo not necessary for either)
[13:41] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: apt-cache search dvd burn :)
[13:41] <__Oz__> Is there a tutorial page that explains CONCEPTUALLY what's going on inside linux/ubuntu with apt-get, aptitude, repos, libraries, etc?  I have a vague understanding of how it all works but not complete.
[13:41] <erUSUL> !apt > __Oz__
[13:41] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Try "apt-get moo" one of these days... :)
[13:41] <faileas> lol
[13:41] <__Oz__> What does that do, odd-rationale? :)
[13:41] <ricardoromao> What is the best kernel for Atlhon 64, know a days I use the x86_64 generic, is the best one ?
[13:41] <prince_jammys> and then again
[13:41] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: Find out!
[13:41] <faileas> super cow powers !
[13:41] <__Oz__> Heh, heh.
[13:41] <__Oz__> I won't be back to my home PCs until this weekend so it'll have to wait. :) I will try it though.
[13:42] <dubcat> hahahahahhhahaah
[13:42] <dubcat> i just did apt-get moo
[13:42] <dubcat> :)
[13:42] <dubcat> Taurens ftw!
[13:43] <erUSUL> !enter
[13:43] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:43] <patogen> What is the "period" key? It says mod-period
[13:43] <dubcat> its the full stop
[13:43] <dubcat> .
[13:44] <patogen> dubcat: Ah thank uyou :)
[13:44] <dubcat> its an americanism... =/
[13:44] <shingouz> interesting. ubuntu packages stuff in completely different places than debian. this box will make my head hurt many times in the next couple of years
[13:44] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: Next you will have to find the super cow power of aptitude. :)
[13:45] <Grab> i want to use my shell as a proxy: what can i use/install ?
[13:45] <unicum> hello, i need something like an equalizer for my system
[13:45] <dubcat> oddd-rationale - i play a tauren in world of warcraft - i have the power of moo! :)
[13:45] <unicum> the bass sucks and there's like no treble
[13:45] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: Hint: aptitude -v moo
[13:45] <unicum> what can i use for this?
[13:45] <mactimes> Grab: Try Squid
[13:45] <dubcat> odd-rationale - it says there really are no Easter Eggs in this program
[13:45] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: try -vv
[13:46] <_Oz_> Here's a weird question.  Is there a way in Ubuntu (or anything, really) to connect to a router at a remote location and use it as a 'proxy' for internet access?
[13:46] <dubcat> hhahahahahhaha
[13:46] <Grab> mactimes,  is that good to run on a shell? is that overloading ?
[13:46] <dubcat> odd-rationale - ok that made my day.. trying -vvv
[13:46] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/
[13:46] <dubcat> hahahaha
[13:46] <Desert_Storm> Im having that error executing Warsow
[13:46] <Odd-rationale> dubcat: Go for it.
[13:46] <_Oz_> I have a rental home with a router/DLS modem in it and I would like to be able to access it and browse the web/do things from there.
[13:46] <dubcat> this is excellent
[13:46] <faileas> lol
[13:46] <z0mbies> hi
[13:46] <faileas> keep adding vs ;p
[13:46] <mactimes> Grab: That will run as a system service.
[13:47] <dubcat> hahahahah it gets better and better - elephant.. snake.. etc
[13:47] <Viktorious> im always hearin about suse whats the deal
[13:47] <Grab> mactimes,  ok, but the problem is: will that overload cpu ?
[13:47] <z0mbies> Does anyone know how to compile Mplayer with GTK support?
[13:47] <_Oz_> regarding apt-get update...  don't the programs I install with apt-get update themselves automatically?
[13:47] <prince_jammys> dubcat: its from "the little prince"
[13:47] <mactimes> Grab: Not that I know
[13:47] <_Oz_> Periodically I get a flag in the tray in Ubuntu saying "updates are ready for download"
[13:47] <dubcat> prince - ah ok :) very funny
[13:47] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/ im having that problem executing Warsow
[13:47] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: Only when you run an update.
[13:47] <faileas> i got up to 6 ;p
[13:47] <dubcat> i used to work for a manufacturer of networking gear and we used to put all kinds of easter eggs in our equpiment
[13:47] <faileas> dubcat: keep adding vs!
[13:48] <_Oz_> odd-rationale: so I need to make sure I run update regularly.  Does anyone chron that?
[13:48] <dubcat> faileas haha i did until they resulted in the same message
[13:48] <_Oz_> Or is there a package I can install via the gui that will update my stuff automatically?
[13:48] <mactimes> Grab: Of course, that will depend on how many requests and clients will be accessing the proxy.  But in general, *nix services/daemons run very smoothly.
[13:48] <faileas> _Oz_: there's usually an update applet ;p
[13:48] <Grab> mactimes,  thanks for your help. ps: i will use it sporadically, so can i let it run 24/7 or should i switch it off ?
[13:48] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: The update notifier simply reminds you to update.
[13:48] <_Oz_> I see.
[13:48] <mactimes> Grab: You can set it up not to start up automatically.
[13:49] <_Oz_> So clicking that little "fireburts" icon in the tray runs "sudo apt-get update"
[13:49] <_Oz_> Correct?
[13:49] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: Corect
[13:49] <_Oz_> Ah.
[13:49] <faileas> pretty mugh
[13:49] <faileas> much
[13:49] <_Oz_> The picture becomes slightly clearer.
[13:49] <Grab> mactimes, shell is 24/7 on
[13:49] <mactimes> Grab: Then, you can use a "general" formula to start it up: sudo /etc/init.d/your_service start
[13:49] <Grab> so if i start it, it will stay forever
[13:49] <_Oz_> At the end of the day, ubuntu/linux really is more or less straightforward, isn't it?
[13:49] <prince_jammys> more or less :)
[13:49] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: There is a lot of gui-for-bash-cammand in ubuntu...
[13:49] <_Oz_> It's relatively easy to figure all this stuff out after a lifetime of using Windows.
[13:49] <Grab> mactimes, do i need root access ?
[13:49] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/ im having that problem executing warsow, anyone know what do i need more?
[13:50] <faileas> personally, linux is hard to get started, easy to keep running
[13:50] <faileas> windows is the other way around ;p
[13:50] <mactimes> Grab: All administrative tasks require root account or administrative rights.
[13:50] <z0mbies> Where can I go to make an Ubuntu feature request?
[13:50] <prince_jammys> _Oz_: yes, windows makes it easy by keeping you in the dark about whats going on
[13:50] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Never saw it that way before. But now makes sense.
[13:50] <dubcat> ozzloy: I made the move from windows to ubuntu in a very dramatic way - i tried to g-part my WORK laptop and screwed it up - since then ive been fully on Ubuntu - and just use virtualbox for anything i need windows for (vpn client for check point for example).
[13:51] <Grab> mactimes,  i dont have root access on my shell: so nothing to do ?
[13:51] <FFighter> hello
[13:51] <_Oz_> prince_jammys: heheh, exactly.
[13:51] <FFighter> I'd like to mount a samba share with a user other than root
[13:51] <_Oz_> faileas: actually I found ubuntu very easy to get running.
[13:51] <prince_jammys> _Oz_: the challenge in linux is to preserve the user's acces to whats happening in the system without confusing the hell out of normal users
[13:51] <faileas> Odd-rationale: Esp this install. took me 17 1/2 hours striaght cause of bad luck to install;p
[13:51] <Desert_Storm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56619/plain/ im having that problem executing warsow, anyone know what do i need more?
[13:51] <_Oz_> faileas: I tried red hat a LONG time ago but it was way beyond me.  command line installation.
[13:52] <mactimes> Grab: You can ask around, but nothing else to do then, as far as I know.  Either you have administrative rights or not.  It is that simple.
[13:52] <_Oz_> It is disappointing that ubuntu has such poor wireless support. :(
[13:52] <dubcat> the only reason i have to run ANY windows related software is my freakin vpn client :(  if there was some way to access check point vpn from linux i could just run outlook from crossover office
[13:52] <mactimes> _Oz_: I don't agree.
[13:52] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: Depends on you chipset... It worked right out of the bos with me
[13:52] <faileas> _Oz_: i ended up going through 4 cds, give up tried a net install 4 times, gave up, then ussed wubi and LVPM
[13:52] <Odd-rationale> box
[13:52] <dubcat> ozzloy: wireless works for me fine on both my vaio and my dell laptops
[13:53]  * faileas has an intel 2100. old but VERY compatable ;p
[13:53] <_Oz_> dubcat: couldn't get any of my machines w/ wireless to work... that was two dell laptops and an old desktop with a wireless PCI card.
[13:53] <faileas> WPA support on gutsy was a good thing tho
[13:53] <_Oz_> I simply gave up on wireless for ubuntu.  That's why I'm running XP right now on my laptop.
[13:53] <mactimes> _Oz_: Never got my hands on a wireless onto a PC/laptop which wireless NIC wouldn't work with Ubuntu.
[13:53] <faileas> _Oz_: what chipset?
[13:54] <dubcat> ozzloy: i have a dell latitude d630 and it worked right out of the box with 7.10 gutsy - have you tried that version?
[13:54]  * faileas only knew one system that had issues with linux
[13:54] <dubcat> wtf - im not typing ozzloy!!
[13:54] <dubcat> im typing oz -
[13:54] <mIRCLan-mIRC6774> hello
[13:54] <faileas> and thats apparently a glitch in the bios
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[13:55] <mactimes> _Oz_: Some makers do it in the hard way.  Some one.  Don't blame the OS, instead, open your mind and think about replacing the hardware or getting drivers from the maker.
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[13:55] <mactimes> _Oz_: /s/Some one/Some not
[13:56] <sato_> _Oz_ No luck >< What's your wifi chipset ?
[13:56] <faileas> (more precisely there's a IRQ conflict between the USB adaptor and the wifi...)
[13:56] <Odd-rationale> lol
[13:56] <faileas> and no linux distro i tried (mandriva did with a bit of witchcraft) seems to work right
[13:57] <_Oz_> faileas: I don't know what chipset it is.  It's a Dell Inspiron E1705
[13:57] <z0mbies> hey, does anyone here know how to compile Mplayer with GTK?
[13:57] <dubcat> see ya guys
[13:57] <faileas> _Oz_: you can find out with SIW ;p
[13:57] <faileas> or look around
[13:58] <z0mbies> can if i can make a feature request for hardy, or is it too late now?
[13:58] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know whether xfce can have different backgrounds for different desktops? Or is that only in kde or compiz?
[13:58] <jrib> z0mbies: why? It's in the repositories.  No need to compile it
[13:58] <z0mbies> not wth GTK support?
[13:58] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i believe so
[13:58] <prince_jammys> Odd-rationale: that can be done in  KDE?
[13:59] <prince_jammys> didn't know
[13:59] <Odd-rationale> prince_jammys: Yes. Just in the Desktop Settings.
[13:59] <faileas> prince_jammys: my HDR background attests to that
[13:59] <jrib> z0mbies: well you have to help me.  Does gtk support refer to something other than the standard gui for mplayer?
[13:59] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Yes in XFCE?
[13:59] <_Oz_> wHAT'S siw, faileas?
[13:59] <prince_jammys> Odd-rationale: faileas cool
[13:59] <faileas> _Oz_: its a really nice windows tool
[14:00] <_Oz_> faileas: what's it do?
[14:00] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i believe so. i don't have it installed but its doable
[14:00] <faileas> _Oz_: hardware info, passwords,ect
[14:00] <z0mbies> maybe I was reading an out dated post on the forum
[14:00] <frold> !ping
[14:00] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[14:00] <faileas> i use it on systems i want to dualboot for checking compat ;p
[14:00] <jrib> z0mbies: install "mplayer" from multiverse.  Then run "gmplayer" and see if that is what you are looking for
[14:00] <frold> howto ping a site :S
[14:00] <Pici> frold: ping site.com
[14:00] <jrib> frold: ping site
[14:01] <Odd-rationale> frold: ping -c 3 URL
[14:01] <z0mbies> okay, thank you for your help.
[14:01] <frold> In commandpromt?
[14:01] <Odd-rationale> frold: Yes
[14:01] <Pici> frold: yes, in a terminal.
[14:01] <_Oz_> faileas: nice
[14:01] <_Oz_> what can I learn from this proggie (I just installed it) that will tell me if this laptop will work with linux (wireless)?
[14:02] <faileas> _Oz_: it will tell you what your wireless card it
[14:02] <faileas> then look it up ;p
[14:02] <_Oz_> I found it.  Where do I look it up?
[14:02] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: You can find your wireless card from the CLI: lspci
[14:02] <prince_jammys> !wireless | _Oz_
[14:02] <ubotu> _Oz_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:03] <_Oz_> Property	Value
[14:03] <_Oz_> Model	Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card
[14:03] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i'd have suggested that but he's in windows right now
[14:03] <frold> thankyou Pici, Odd-rationale, jrib
[14:03] <_Oz_> that's what I have
[14:03] <Odd-rationale> faileas: Oh, I forgot.
[14:03] <sato_> OZ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[14:03] <sato_> did you try this how-to
[14:04] <_Oz_> No, sir, sato.
[14:04] <sato_> just looked it up in google... guess it's wors a try ;)
[14:04] <faileas> Odd-rationale: i'm better at windows than linux anyway, more experience ;p
[14:04] <_Oz_> thanks.
[14:04] <_Oz_> Looks like the same card they used in the e1705
[14:05] <Odd-rationale> faileas: I should be good at windows... ^_^
[14:05] <_Oz_> As usual, you're an outstanding and helpful group. Maybe I WILL try to get Ubuntu running on this Dell laptop.  Maybe it ISN'T hopeless.
[14:05] <faileas> Odd-rationale:well, been using windows for ages, linux is new to me ;p
[14:06] <frold> brb
[14:06] <crhylove> How do I change my refresh rate in the GUI?
[14:06] <crhylove> Currently only 50 or 51 hz is available, but this monitor performs better higher.
[14:06] <Odd-rationale> anyways, gtg! Be back later!
[14:06] <_Oz_> faileas: me too.
[14:07] <crhylove> at this low refresh, the monitor turns itself off and on.
[14:07] <crhylove> rendering this machine unusable
[14:08] <gluer> hi
[14:08] <prince_jammys> crhylove: preferences->screen resolution
[14:08] <crhylove> I had to do it in the console before, and I obviously messed it up.
[14:08] <crhylove> It only gives me two options.
[14:08] <crhylove> 50 and 51.
[14:08] <Amerio> hey guys
[14:08] <crhylove> This monitor doesn't work well that low.
[14:09]  * _Oz_ departs #ubuntu with new-found hope. And for that he is grateful.
[14:09] <_Oz_> Farewell again, my good friends.
[14:09] <_Oz_> And I thank you.
[14:09] <_Oz_> You have given me hope.
[14:09] <Amerio> guys i have a problem using dparted
[14:09] <Amerio> is it possible to move the unallocated space from SDA2 to SDA1?
[14:11] <prince_jammys> crhylove: what's the output of this::  grep -i refresh /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:12] <Desert_Storm> Im having rendering issues on warsow with openGL
[14:12] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix them_
[14:12] <jianfei> gday
[14:12] <Desert_Storm> Its like everything is too dark
[14:12] <MatzeB> Hi, I want to move the package selection from 1 ubuntu installation to another
[14:12] <MatzeB> someone know how I could do this?
[14:13] <prince_jammys> !info aptoncd | MatzeB
[14:13] <ubotu> matzeb: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.97-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 135 kB, installed size 1024 kB
[14:13] <MatzeB> (I have 1 system with lots of stuff installed that I need, now I want to install the same stuff on another new system with a fresh ubuntu install)
[14:13] <jianfei> .
[14:14] <sato_> MatzeB: I really not sure but I thin you can get a list of all installed package (from the package manager)
[14:14] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix rendering on Warsow, its just too dark, and not understandable
[14:14] <Amerio> is it possible to move the unallocated space from SDA2 to SDA1 in Gparted and merge them into 1 unallocated space ? because I have two unallocated paritions
[14:14] <MatzeB> sato_, yes I found dpkg --get-selections
[14:15] <MatzeB> but no way yet to install that selection on the other box...
[14:15] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: check out that package
[14:15] <jianfei> .
[14:15] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, I am...
[14:15] <LL00> anyone know a soft like ms project?
[14:15] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, , though I don't really want to create a new install CD...
[14:16] <LL00> I tried planner
[14:16] <LL00> any soft better
[14:16] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, I can happily download all the packages again
[14:16] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, or simply copy my apt cache
[14:16] <lgierth> hello. i want to generate locales for en-US. how do i do that?
[14:16] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, I just don't want to select all the packages again manually
[14:16] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: i see
[14:17] <jianfei> im trying to get the novell client to work on gutsy anyone got this working?
[14:17] <white_eagle_> jianfei, what novell client?
[14:17] <white_eagle_> evolution?
[14:18] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: this parses the output of --getselections and then installs --- http://www.debianadmin.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html
[14:18] <[chr0n0s]> hi, is there any application which can organize my notes, interlink them(like wikipedia) "automatically" ??
[14:18] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: or so it seems
[14:18] <MatzeB> prince_jammys, that's what I've been looking for I think
[14:18] <prince_jammys> MatzeB: sounds like it
[14:19] <jianfei> .
[14:19] <Amerio> is it possible to move the unallocated space from SDA2 to SDA1 in Gparted and merge them into 1 unallocated space ? because I have two unallocated paritions
[14:20] <Dflamingo> Hello
[14:20] <Dflamingo> I need some help
[14:20] <brobostigon> good aafternoon
[14:20] <Dflamingo> I installed Avast anti virus for Ubuntu
[14:20] <Dflamingo> From the avast main website
[14:21] <Dflamingo> But I can't seem to find avast anywhere
[14:21] <Dflamingo> ._.
[14:21] <erUSUL> [chr0n0s]: Tomboy (supports interlinking)?? or install a personal wiki
[14:21] <jianfei> white_eagel, im trying to get the novell login client to work on ubuntu, i converted the rpms to deb but it wont run
[14:21] <Dflamingo> This was the name of the file, avast4workstation_1.0.8-2_i386.deb
[14:21] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, mediawiki needs to be linked manually. ?
[14:21] <Dflamingo> Can't seem to find it on my computer
[14:21] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: dpkg -L avast4workstation
[14:21] <Dflamingo> What do you mean?
[14:22] <Dflamingo> I'm new to ubuntu
[14:22] <Dflamingo> ._.
[14:22] <Dflamingo> Help please
[14:22] <[chr0n0s]> Dflamingo, he means use -L to locate
[14:22] <erUSUL> [chr0n0s]: nope if you mention the tittle of anote in onother note it will be converted in a link
[14:22] <Dflamingo> -L?
[14:22] <Dflamingo> Whats that?
[14:22] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: that command will list the files instaled by the package
[14:22] <prince_jammys> read above
[14:22] <the-joe> hi
[14:22] <Dflamingo> oooh
[14:22] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, let my try that, i just installed mediawiki :D
[14:22] <erUSUL> !enter | Dflamingo
[14:22] <ubotu> Dflamingo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:23] <white_eagle_> !tab | jianfei
[14:23] <Dflamingo> where do I type the command in?
[14:23] <ubotu> jianfei: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:23] <[chr0n0s]> Dflamingo, in a console
[14:23] <erUSUL> !cli | Dflamingo
[14:23] <ubotu> Dflamingo: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:23] <the-joe> can sb help me with ubuntu 7.10 64 bit - ati radeon x800 blackscreen
[14:23] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:23] <Dflamingo> Oohh, the terminal
[14:23] <Dflamingo> the one like MS DOS?
[14:23] <prince_jammys> yes
[14:23] <white_eagle_> jianfei, .rpm converted to .deb isn't flawless
[14:23] <Dflamingo> thank you!
[14:24] <Viktorious> using something in wine doesnt affect the performance of it does irt
[14:24] <white_eagle_> Viktorious, performance of what?
[14:24] <Viktorious> the app
[14:24] <Dflamingo> wait
[14:24] <prince_jammys> Viktorious: yes, it can affect it
[14:24] <erUSUL> Viktorious: yes it does you got an additional layer
[14:24] <Dflamingo> I entered 'dpkg -L avast4workstation' into the terminal
[14:24] <Dflamingo> And a whole bunch of text came out
[14:25] <Dflamingo> Nothing that I understand though
[14:25] <Dflamingo> Still can't find avast
[14:25] <erUSUL> !enter
[14:25] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:25] <tuomoila> osaisko joku kertoa miten saan resoluution isommaksi kun asensin atin ajurit niin max.resoluutio on 800x600
[14:25] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: you got the list of files the package instaled and its location on hard disk
[14:26] <jianfei> white_eagle: yeh i noticed, annoyed novell hasnt bothered
[14:26] <prince_jammys> Dflamingo: you have installed this app but you can't access it?
[14:26] <Pici> !fi | tuomoila
[14:26] <ubotu> tuomoila: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[14:26] <Dflamingo> I can't find it
[14:26] <Dflamingo> It's not anywhere in appl/places or systems
[14:26] <Dflamingo> Avast for linux
[14:26] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:26] <Dflamingo> And I got the locations but what do I do?
[14:26] <erUSUL> Dflamingo: provably is a cli app that you call from terminal
[14:26] <prince_jammys> Dflamingo: try typing "avast"
[14:26] <white_eagle_> Dflamingo, hit alt-f2 and type avast
[14:26] <ubuntu1> Hi, people. I want to backup my Windows installation which is on the first harddrive, to my second harddrive. I tried dumping an image of the whole harddrive but my second harddrive wasn't big enough. How can I backup my Windows installation so that, when something goes wrong, i can restore it from that?
[14:26] <white_eagle_> see what happens
[14:27] <the-joe> no one in the mood to solve my ati x800 blackscreen boot problem? :(
[14:27] <mohbana> did anyone get my question
[14:27] <prince_jammys> Dflamingo: and if that doesnt work, try avas(and hit the tab key to see if it autocompletes the name)
[14:27] <white_eagle_> ubuntu1, I'll google now for windows backup
[14:27] <brobostigon> !backup | ubuntu1
[14:27] <ubotu> ubuntu1: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[14:27] <white_eagle_> mohbana, ??
[14:27] <mohbana> \usepackage[round, sort, numbers, authoryear]{natbib}
[14:27] <mohbana> opps
[14:27] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:27] <Dflamingo> it's not working
[14:27] <ubuntu1> brobostigon: thanks
[14:27] <Dflamingo> both methods didn't work
[14:28] <Dflamingo> Help!
[14:28] <Dflamingo> Can I paste the locations I got from terminal?
[14:28] <white_eagle_> Dflamingo, wait
[14:28] <white_eagle_> I'll see what I can do
[14:28] <Dflamingo> thank you
[14:29] <linduxed> ive got a light inside my headphone input (red, LED i think) that lights up when i use windows, making it easier to find, however it does not light up in ubuntu, do you know what to do or where to look for a solution? I've googled some but cant seem to find anything....
[14:29] <white_eagle_> !pastebin | Dflamingo
[14:29] <ubotu> Dflamingo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:29] <white_eagle_> use pastebin, paste them there
[14:29] <sato_> MatzeB: Look like you got your answer.... What I was thinking of is the File > Save markings option of synaptic
[14:29] <white_eagle_> and send us the link
[14:29] <Dflamingo> wait
[14:29] <Dflamingo> White eagle, can I private chat with you?
[14:29] <Dflamingo> This is all so confusing
[14:29] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Were you the one helping me yesterday/the day before yesterday with the instability issue?
[14:29] <white_eagle_> yes
[14:29] <hw00djohn> hey everyone! i just got ubuntu and i love it!!
[14:29] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, yeah
[14:30] <white_eagle_> did you get it?
[14:30] <white_eagle_> did you get it fixed, I mean
[14:30] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Great :). I've been running the liveCD for a night to backup something, and nothing has crashed. So.. can it be the harddrive?
[14:30] <linduxed> hw00djohn: wellcome aboard
[14:30] <white_eagle_> Dflamingo, pvt me if you like
[14:30] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: (And, no..)
[14:30] <linduxed> hw00djohn: *welcome
[14:31] <Grab> how do i see disk usage and quota of my shell?
[14:31] <MatzeB> arekkusu, that save markings didn't work, but the scripts on that page did
[14:31] <jianfei> white_eagle: until i get the client working i cant roll it out ubuntu to 400 pcs
[14:31] <MatzeB> arekkusu, in fact that dpkg --set-selections in combination with apt-get dselect-upgrade seems to be the proper way
[14:31] <jianfei> annoyed
[14:31] <MatzeB> (as mentioned in the comments on that page)
[14:31] <white_eagle_> hw00djohn, totally offtopic, but did you get the compiz effects?
[14:31] <white_eagle_> :D
[14:31] <brobostigon> grab: try df -h -T
[14:31] <hw00djohn> linduxed: thanks man.  right now i'm running compiz and looking for more upgrades.  Any idea if you can use iTunes with ubuntu 7.10? I'm trying to get my buddy to switch and that's his condition.
[14:31] <rsa_md5> suppose i have added a few script lines to /etc/rc.local......how do i execute the script? cd /etc and then ./rc.local ?
[14:32] <hw00djohn> white_eagle_: yeah. i got it!
[14:32] <white_eagle_> no hw00djohn sorry but DRM'd files won't work in linux
[14:32] <arekkusu> MatzeB: Ok good to know :) I though your could do that from synaptic...
[14:32] <white_eagle_> and itunes store doesn't work too
[14:32] <white_eagle_> !itunes | hw00djohn
[14:32] <ubotu> hw00djohn: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[14:32] <brobostigon> hw00djohn: you can run itunes with wine
[14:32] <hw00djohn> white_eagle_: figured, DRMified sucks...apple sucks.
[14:32] <MatzeB> arekkusu, synaptic only saved the changes you made to your package selection
[14:32] <Djoef> hi, is there a way to retrieve a command you once used and of which you know the start ? (i could browse trough the entire history but that would take me a long time... as it was a long time ago :) )
[14:32] <MatzeB> arekkusu, not your whole selection
[14:32] <Aciid> what does default ubuntu boot entry look like in grub?
[14:32] <marko-_-> ka
[14:32] <Aciid> could somebody paste that in pastebin
[14:32] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Has your system been stable?
[14:32] <white_eagle_> Djoef, yes
[14:32] <linduxed> hw00djohn: tell him to try out amarok and hell be blown away
[14:33] <white_eagle_> press the up arrow
[14:33] <Djoef> (I am talking about commands in terminal)
[14:33] <white_eagle_> when in terminal
[14:33] <Djoef> white_eagle_:  how ?
[14:33] <Djoef> yes
[14:33] <Djoef> ok
[14:33] <Djoef> thats browsing trough the entire history
[14:33] <Djoef> but i know it was a ssh command
[14:33] <Djoef> and i need the settings
[14:33] <Pici> Djoef: or history | grep ssh
[14:33] <Djoef> great
[14:33] <linduxed> hw00djohn: sudo aptitude install amarok
[14:33] <Djoef> ill try
[14:33] <hw00djohn> linduxed: how would i find amarok, also, he has about 80gigs of music, can he turn those m4a's into whatever format amarok uses?
[14:34] <fotoflo> hi, i just noticed that all the ubuntu default users (sys, bin, sync, games, for example) have a default login shell, even though their logins are disabbled in the shadow file.... would it hurt to change all the /bin/sh
[14:34] <fotoflo> 's to /bin/false ?
[14:34] <Djoef> thank you Pici !!
[14:34] <linduxed> hw00djohn: get a terminal up and type that command i just wrote
 grab: try df -h -T <= no result
[14:35] <Aciid> could somebody please paste the default grub entry for ubuntu to pastebin
[14:35] <Desert_Storm> Where can i DL ''XFree86-DRI''_
[14:35] <hw00djohn> linduxed: i did, however it says i need my install CD
[14:35] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, do you use ati?
[14:35] <Desert_Storm> Yes
[14:35] <white_eagle_> fglrx drivers?
[14:35] <Pici> Aciid: There is no 'default grub entry', its dependent on your hardrive layout.
[14:35] <linduxed> hw00djohn: amarok uses all kinds of formats, and if it doesnt it just ask you to press a button to have it install automatically
[14:35] <erUSUL> Aciid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56626/   the locale and UUID are specific to my install of course
[14:35] <Arelis__> Pici: Hey there pici. I have been running the liveCD for a whole night and nothing has crashed and nothing is unstable. No random crashes or anything. I didn't have Xorg switched on though (it was on, but i was using the console all the time). So, if the liveCD is stable, but when it's installed it's not - then is it my harddrive?
[14:35] <Pici> !grub | Aciid
[14:35] <ubotu> Aciid: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:35] <arekkusu> MatzeB: There is a "save full state" you can check when saving... though that would save it all
[14:35] <linduxed> hw00djohn: ok you have to change sources them
[14:36] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, I don't know how to help you
[14:36] <linduxed> hw00djohn: *then
[14:36] <Pici> Arelis__: I forget what the problem was again.
[14:36] <hw00djohn> linduxed: explain plz
[14:36] <white_eagle_> I guess running xgl and direct rendering with fglrx isn't possible
[14:36] <Desert_Storm> Ah
[14:36] <Aciid> thank you very much erUSUL
[14:36] <brobostigon> Grab: type in exactly the following "df -h" into your terminal,that will hsow disk use and loads more.
[14:36] <Arelis__> Pici: Segmentation faulting programs. Oh, by the way, i memtested for about 5 hours, and no errors.
[14:36] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix rendering on games like warsow (Ati Radeon 9550)
[14:36] <linduxed> hw00djohn: system -> administration -> software sources
[14:36] <fotoflo> hi, i just noticed that all the ubuntu default users (sys, bin, sync, games, for example) have a default login shell, even though their logins are disabbled in the shadow file.... would it hurt to change all the /bin/sh 's to /bin/false ?
[14:36] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, is that an integrated chip?
[14:36] <Desert_Storm> And wine says aswell ''Missing XFree86-DPI''
[14:37] <Desert_Storm> AGP card
[14:37] <Pici> Arelis__: Could be the drive then, could be bad sectors.  I'd try a fsck, but that might not help either.
[14:37] <linduxed> hw00djohn: when yer there just tell me
[14:37] <hw00djohn> linduxed: what should i enable/disable?
[14:38] <Arelis__> Pici: I have 'formatted' (used the "use all space" option on the Ubuntu install disc") many times. I don't think it would be a problem with filesystems or partitions, but rather with the actual harddrive. I tested with the SMART utilities and it all gave PASSED.
[14:39] <Grab> brobostigon, i only read : Filesystem             Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
[14:39] <Grab> no valuse
[14:39] <Desert_Storm> How can i fix 3D rendering on games like Warsow, its an AGP ATI Radeon 9550, also Wine says its missing ''XFree86_DPI''
[14:39] <Grab> values
[14:39] <linduxed> hw00djohn: disable cdrom, enable all others (except for source....and maybe the fourth one if yer scared of the description)
[14:40] <hw00djohn> linduxed: sudo aptitude install amarok??
[14:40] <Pici> Arelis__: I'm not sure then... I really haven't had to deal with faulty drives in a long time, :/
[14:40] <linduxed> hw00djohn: now go to the tab "updates"
[14:40] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: That's a problem with your drivers. Check the wiki :)
[14:40] <white_eagle_> hw00djohn, go to the terminal
[14:40] <Desert_Storm> Okay, thanks )D
[14:40] <bsdnewb07> guys ive installed ubuntu in vmware problem is no network devices have shown up :/
[14:40] <bsdnewb07>  shouldnt there be a lnc0?
[14:41] <hw00djohn> linduxed: what do i do in the updates tab?
[14:41] <Desert_Storm> You mean Ubuntu's wiki_
[14:41] <white_eagle_> bsdnewb07, is it a wifi card?
[14:41] <linduxed> hw00djohn: mark the first three, if yer brave, the fourth too i havent
[14:41] <Desert_Storm> link, what topic do i need?
[14:41] <bsdnewb07> no white_eagle_
[14:41] <flipmode> I am using 7.10 cant get dvds to play. They show up on the desktop but act like a folder
[14:41] <bsdnewb07> its a virtual device provided by vmware
[14:41] <Arelis__> Pici: Well luckily there is another harddrive, the one that was in this computer when it was bought - and it contains a Windows installation that is very, very stable. It hasn't had any issues like segmentation faulting. I gues I should just try to install Ubuntu on the stable harddrive, but i don't want to lose that super-stable windows installation.
[14:41] <erUSUL> !dvd | flipmode
[14:42] <ubotu> flipmode: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:42] <brobostigon> !medibuntu | flipmode
[14:42] <ubotu> flipmode: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:42] <linduxed> hw00djohn: now you can either usea graphical installer or use commands
[14:42] <johansja> I am having difficulty in changing my mouse cursor theme in ubuntu 7.10.
[14:42] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: Yep. I mean ubuntu's wiki
[14:42] <brobostigon> flipmode: install libdvdcss2 and vlc from medibuntu
[14:42] <hw00djohn> linduxed: i'm only brave on 7chan, but that is irrelevant.  should i close after the updates tab changes?
[14:42] <flipmode> I have done all that already
[14:42] <linduxed> hw00djohn: for graphical: system -> administration -> synaptic
[14:42] <white_eagle_> flipmode, install ubuntu-restricted-areas
[14:42] <mohbana> \bibliographystyle[super, sort]{natbib}
[14:42] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:43] <white_eagle_> or kubuntu-restricted-areas (if on kde)
[14:43] <Boglizk> How do i reload the gnome desktop? (Dont tell me to ctrlaltbackspace)
[14:43] <linduxed> hw00djohn: for commandway just enter what i typed
[14:43] <Desert_Storm> What should i be looking for_
[14:43] <Desert_Storm> Rendering issues_
[14:43] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, sorry for asking again
[14:44] <white_eagle_> is it an integrated chip?
[14:44] <linduxed> hw00djohn: but i suggest you try synaptic too, i think youll love it
[14:44] <flipmode> I am using ubuntu, I have installed all the restricted extras,libdvdcss2,medibuntu extras and still nothing
[14:44] <Desert_Storm> Its a AGP card, so no >P
[14:44] <Desert_Storm> And its okay =)
[14:44] <Arelis__> Pici: Can you help me with making sure i don't lose Windows?
[14:44] <pro-rsoft> hi all
[14:45] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, what is the problem now?
[14:45] <pro-rsoft> why does my wireless interface not show up in Connection Properties while it does in "iwconfig" ?
[14:45] <linduxed> hw00djohn: you there?
[14:45] <hw00djohn> linduxed:  it's installing now through terminal, thanks for the help
[14:45] <white_eagle_> !wifi | pro-rsoft
[14:45] <ubotu> pro-rsoft: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:45] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Well, i want to try installing Ubuntu on a better harddrive so i can see if it is more stable on there, but i don't want to lose my Windows installation.
[14:45] <pro-rsoft> white_eagle_ i already read it
[14:45] <djtansey> file corruption question: evolution no longer opens inbox. What do you recommend for recovery? Error while Opening folder mbox:~/.evolution/mail/local#Inbox.
[14:45] <white_eagle_> try running fsck first
[14:45] <white_eagle_> ok
[14:45] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: on what device?
[14:46] <linduxed> hw00djohn: you from windows?
[14:46] <white_eagle_> on the old harddrive
[14:46] <johansja> i can't change my mouse cursor theme. No matter which cursor theme, including those which comes with ubuntu 7.10
[14:46] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: not a partition?
[14:46] <hw00djohn> linduxed: unfortunately.
[14:46] <white_eagle_> oh
[14:46] <white_eagle_> yes
[14:46] <flipmode> I am using ubuntu, I have installed all the restricted extras,libdvdcss2,medibuntu extras and still nothing
[14:46] <white_eagle_> if you partitioned the drive
[14:46] <mohbana> hi, i am using texlive in ubuntu, is the natbib package missing because i can't seem to compile using natbib?
[14:46] <linduxed> hw00djohn: well i hope you enjoy your stay
[14:46] <white_eagle_> flipmode, thats weird
[14:47] <bsdnewb07> how can i list all the network devices in ubuntu?
[14:47] <flipmode> white_eagle_: I agree
[14:47] <pro-rsoft> bsdnewb07: ifconfig
[14:47] <brobostigon> bsdnewb07:ifconfig
[14:47] <pro-rsoft> heh
[14:47] <tsdh> Hi.  I rented a server running ubuntu 6.10.  How do I add additional repositories?  There's no sources.list but an empty sources-list.d/.
[14:47] <flipmode> white_eagle_: any ideas
[14:47] <johansja> i can't change my mouse cursor theme. No matter which cursor theme, including those which comes with ubuntu 7.10
[14:47] <white_eagle_> flipmode, wait a min
[14:48] <flipmode> ok
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> thought so
[14:48] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: You know what should i be looking to fix the rendering with my AGP Radeon 9550?
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> will that show devices that dont have anything binded to them as well?
[14:48] <hw00djohn> anyone know where i could find some documentation on commands for terminal?  I'm new to the whole idea of the terminal and i'd liek to teach it to myself.  also, linduxed: thanks for the kind invite, i love the community here.
[14:48] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: linuxcommand.org
[14:48] <pro-rsoft> hw00djohn: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[14:48] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, copy your xorg.conf in pastebin
[14:48] <white_eagle_> please
[14:48] <white_eagle_> so I could compare
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> because all ifconfig is showing is lo
[14:48] <Desert_Storm> Where could that be_
[14:48] <bsdnewb07> which is loopback isnt it
[14:48] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: apt-get install rutebook
[14:48] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:49] <pro-rsoft> bsdnewb07, that means it can't find the rest huh :)
[14:49] <redmonkey> try ifconfig -a
[14:49] <white_eagle_> do not save changes ;)
[14:49] <pro-rsoft> bsdnewb07, try lspci or lspw to see if its recognised
[14:49] <brobostigon> lshw
[14:49] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: what is rutebook?
[14:49] <Desert_Storm> What was the pastebin\s address?
[14:49] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: Oh, wait a minute, i forgot i cleared the "faulty" harddrive and put a single NTFS partition on that. Should i still do an fsck?
[14:49] <ilpompa> ciao a tutti
[14:49] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: its en ebook with tons of stuff about linux, including how to use command line
[14:49] <ilpompa> qualcuno parla italiano??
[14:50] <Pici> !it | ilpompa
[14:50] <ubotu> ilpompa: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:50] <pro-rsoft> Desert_Storm, there are millions. one is http://dpaste.com
[14:50] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: comes in html and pdf
[14:50] <ilpompa> tnx
[14:50] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, hmmmm
[14:50] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: try linuxcommand.org for a basic intro
[14:50] <pro-rsoft> Desert_Storm, also http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[14:50] <t04no> hi. did anyone manage to get visualstudio express 2008 running with wine ? wine setup.exe didn't work. a workaround may be to mount the msvc dvd iso and grab things from there.
[14:50] <Desert_Storm> http://dpaste.com/35911/
[14:50] <white_eagle_> I don't want to make you do mistakes, so I'm not sure
[14:50] <linduxed> hw00djohn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398290
[14:50] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: http://dpaste.com/35911/
[14:50] <white_eagle_> t04no, why don't you try MONO
[14:51] <white_eagle_> !mono
[14:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:51] <annonymouse> !wifi
[14:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:51] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: once you've installed rutebook, then in a browser paste::  /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html
[14:51] <white_eagle_> !info mono | t04no
[14:51] <ubotu> t04no: mono (source: mono): Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB
[14:52] <Lartza_> has anyone used kernelcheck?
[14:52] <white_eagle_> hey Desert_Storm try setting Section "Extensions"	Option		"Composite"	"0" from "0" to "Disable"
[14:52] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: That's very nice of you :), i'll ask someone else then
[14:52] <pro-rsoft> hey does anybody know why my network scan list shows empty? WifiDocs explain nothing about that
[14:52] <brobostigon> Lartza_: what is kernelcheck ??
[14:52] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: that and linuxcommand.org will get you started
[14:52] <pro-rsoft> yesterday i remember i got it to work
[14:53] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: great, thanks
[14:53] <Lartza_> it is an automatic kernel compiler/updater following the steps in the master kernel thread
[14:53] <Arelis__> Does anybody here know how i can install Ubuntu on my harddrive containing Windows XP without ruining the install?
[14:53] <linduxed> prince_jammys: how do you acces rutebook when installed=
[14:53] <Desert_Storm> After saving, il try it now
[14:53] <Desert_Storm> playing warsow
[14:53] <Lartza_> Arelis___: search google: ubuntu winxp dualboot
[14:53] <prince_jammys> once you've installed rutebook, then in a browser paste::  /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html
[14:53] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, first disable
[14:53] <white_eagle_> compiz and restart
[14:54] <white_eagle_> the x server
[14:54] <prince_jammys> linduxed: ^
[14:54] <t04no> white_eagle: i need the non CLI c++ compiler from ms for some testing. btw mono is a piece of crap.
[14:54] <brobostigon> !install | Arelis__
[14:54] <ubotu> Arelis__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[14:54] <Desert_Storm> did it
[14:54] <flipmode> white_eagle_: figure anything out?
[14:54] <Arelis__> Lartza_: But aren't most of those guides dangerous to the windows install?
[14:54] <Dimitrije> !Dimitrije ntfs
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dimitrije ntfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <erUSUL> t04no: instal windows
[14:54] <Lartza_> i dont think so
[14:54] <Dimitrije> !ntfs
[14:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[14:54] <white_eagle_> no flipmode i don't have other dependencies installed and DVD works
[14:54] <white_eagle_> sorry
[14:54] <Dimitrije> !ntfs write
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs write - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <white_eagle_> can't help you
[14:54] <linduxed> prince_jammys: thx
[14:54] <Lartza_> !install | Arelis__
[14:54] <ubotu> Arelis__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[14:55] <Lartza_> check that
[14:55] <Dimitrije> How to see informations about NTFS write in linux. There was a program i forgot...
[14:55] <Lartza_> has anyone used kernelcheck?
[14:55] <Dimitrije> One guy gave it to me over this bot.
[14:55] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g
[14:55] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[14:55] <Arelis__> Lartza_: I had experience with a previous windows install that i tried to resize using the Ubuntu liveCD, but it made it behave weirdly, and wouldn't boot because (i thought) it had a broken chkdisk, (but i just needed to wait a little longer)
[14:55] <prince_jammys> linduxed: hw00djohn:  you may have to stick file://   before the above address, depending on the web browser you use
[14:55] <uniwiz> Hello everyone. Does anyone has ubuntu on thinkpad t60?
[14:55] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: No changes =S
[14:55] <flipmode> when i put a dvd in totem opens up but says no plugin available to play this file
[14:55] <uniwiz> I have t60 with dedicated ati card and the fan never shuts off
[14:55] <uniwiz> seems like it is because of dedicated gpu
[14:55] <Dimitrije> !fuse
[14:55] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[14:56] <Dimitrije> !fusion
[14:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:56] <Lartza_> read about installation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[14:56] <brobostigon> flipmode: what happens when you try to play the dvd using vlc directly??
[14:56] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, is the usage of .xsession denied on purpose on ubuntu?
[14:56] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, hello?
[14:56] <white_eagle_> does the game work now?
[14:56] <Dimitrije> How to write to NTFS!!!!!
[14:57] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g > Dimitrije
[14:57] <erUSUL> !patience > Dimitrije
[14:57] <bsdnewb07> when running ubuntu inside vmware - whats the default network device called eth0 or lnc0?
[14:57] <Dimitrije> !ntfs-3g > Dimitrije
[14:57] <julle> Any idea what can be the problem why the fontsize on for example "Konversation and aMSN" is extremely tiny?
[14:57] <Lartza_> I had NTFS hard drive and it worked in ubuntu without any config
[14:57] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: No changes
[14:57] <white_eagle_> hmh
[14:57] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, wait I'll google it
[14:58] <Desert_Storm> okay, thanks =(
[14:58] <Desert_Storm> i mean =)
[14:58] <Le-Chuck_ITA> nobody knows? I just want to run my custom session, I always did that whenever I needed that, why can't I do that in gutsy? If I create .xsession and chmod 755 it doesn't work
[14:59] <annonymouse> can some one help with with a wireless issue
[14:59] <pro-rsoft> !wifi
[14:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:59] <Le-Chuck_ITA> .xsession is mentioned in /etc/gdm/Xsession, a variable is assigned to this file, but never used in the script
[14:59] <linduxed> prince_jammys: not if you use firefow
[14:59] <annonymouse> read the pro-rsoft its a question bout my card
[14:59] <white_eagle_> annonymouse, do tell.
[14:59] <linduxed> prince_jammys: *firefox
[14:59] <prince_jammys> linduxed: you mean it doesn't work?
[14:59] <white_eagle_> integrated card, annonymouse ?
[15:00] <linduxed> prince_jammys: it works without file://
[15:00] <Lartza_> i have choppy sound in glest, does anyone know how to fix it?
[15:00] <pro-rsoft> can someone help me with me wireless issue?
[15:00] <prince_jammys> linduxed: yeah, thats browser-dependent i think.  that book has tons of stuff to check out
[15:00] <Lartza_> is it said choppy when it breaks form time to time?
[15:00] <white_eagle_> !forums | pro-rsoft
[15:01] <white_eagle_> try asking in the forums
[15:01] <ubotu> pro-rsoft: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[15:01] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, it works, the links but i have to type like [[ubuntu]] for the link to ubuntu, would be great if it was automatic
[15:01] <annonymouse> im looking to see if my card is supported  so i typed in http://pastebin.ca/905756
[15:01] <annonymouse> i cant work out if it is or not
[15:02] <erUSUL> [chr0n0s]: in tomboy?
[15:02] <linduxed> prince_jammys: yeah i noticed
[15:03] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, I'm currently reading this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579428&highlight=direct+rendering+fglrx
[15:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> really, I can't believe nobody ever wanted to run a custom xsession and knows why in ubuntu it will no longer works
[15:03] <white_eagle_> what card did you have?
[15:03] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm??
[15:03] <annonymouse> my laptops a 8111 and its centrino based so im wandering if thats pertinant to ipw2200
[15:04] <Desert_Storm> white_eagle_: ATI Radeon 9550
[15:04] <erUSUL> Le-Chuck_ITA: report it as a bug...
[15:04] <white_eagle_> ok
[15:04] <erUSUL> !bugs | Le-Chuck_ITA
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> come on
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> erUSUL: if it's a bug I will report
[15:04] <ubotu> Le-Chuck_ITA: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> only maybe in years the way to run a custom xsession changed
[15:04] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:04] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:04] <amirrezas> :)
[15:04] <amirrezas> :)
[15:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> this requires experience with ubuntu and that's because I am asking here
[15:04] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:04] <amirrezas> :)
[15:05] <Le-Chuck_ITA> if at least one person confirms that to run a custom xsession I *should* create a .xsession file
[15:05] <valberg> hey i got a rather wierd error when running "sudo update-manager -d"
[15:05] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I will report this as a bug
[15:05] <valberg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/update-manager/+bug/193300
[15:05] <valberg> ^my bugreport
[15:06] <valberg> it fails when installing language-selector-common
[15:06] <amirrezas> MARY (JESUS' MOM) WAS MERELY A COMMON WHORE IMPREGNATED BY SOME STUPID JEW
[15:06] <amirrezas> hello you have blocked my userid@*
[15:06] <[chr0n0s]> erUSUL, works in tomboy! gr8, just what i needed, thanks
[15:06] <faileas> !op
[15:06] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[15:06] <sarah> hi just installed ubuntu and plugged in network cable and says isnt plugged in! <note windows says same; and its okay on another computer)
[15:06] <amirrezas> IF I COULD JUST GET MY HANDS ON PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S DAUGHTER I'D SHOVE MY FIST UP HER BLEEDING CUNT AND SCRAMBLE HER BRAINS
[15:07] <[chr0n0s]> gone, phew
[15:07] <prince_jammys> interesting
[15:07] <Arelis__> !op
[15:07] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, from what I have learnt from the forums, if you have an old ATi card, you can get the desktop effects but no direct rendering sorry, you'll have to use AIGLX which is in development and will give you direct rendering, but no desktop effects (they're planning to include that in the next release)
[15:07] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[15:07] <[chr0n0s]> white_eagle_, !!
[15:07] <white_eagle_> what
[15:07] <Arelis__> oh, too late
[15:07] <Arelis__> sorry
[15:07] <[chr0n0s]> nothing
[15:07] <kubitz> sarah on another computer running Ubuntu or another computer running another operating system?
[15:07] <Desert_Storm> AIGLX? Where can i get that
[15:08] <[chr0n0s]> Desert_Storm, it's with the gfx drivers i think
[15:08] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, you'll must uninstall the drivers
[15:08] <white_eagle_> from the repos
[15:08] <white_eagle_> and get envy
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> How?
[15:08] <faileas> er
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Dont suggest envy please
[15:08] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, do you reallywant to do that?
[15:08] <pro-rsoft> Jack_Sparrow, why not :)
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> Sure, want to play Warsow
[15:08] <faileas> envy isn't recommended
[15:08] <white_eagle_> I don't suggest that
[15:08] <sarah> kubitz: running ubuntu
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> lol =P
[15:08] <Desert_Storm> Darn
[15:08] <pro-rsoft> envy is the only thing that worked for me on gutsy
[15:08] <white_eagle_> AIGLX is still in development
[15:08] <white_eagle_> !aiglx
[15:08] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[15:08] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: AIGLX isd not what you want. AIGLX is for desktop effects. you want DRI and GLX
[15:08] <pro-rsoft> glx-new didnt, while gutsy's nvidia drivers didn't either
[15:08] <[chr0n0s]> pro-rsoft, for ATi drivers?
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: which ati card?
[15:09] <kubitz> sarah so one comp running ubuntu is working and the other isn't?
[15:09] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: you should look at the drivers
[15:09] <pro-rsoft> no, nvidia
[15:09] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: And possibly install fglrx
[15:09] <Desert_Storm> Its ATI Radeon 9550
[15:09] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, its the contrary
[15:09] <vlt> Hello. Someone sent me an MS Word document, which seems to be protected. I can edit some prepared fields with OpenOffice but can't edit the whole text. Where do I find the unlock function?
[15:09] <white_eagle_> xgl is for effects
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: 9550 can use fglrx
[15:09] <sarah> kubitz: yes, i tried windows with the non working one also but still says network cable unplugged
[15:09] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: No. Sorry, but AIGLX and XGL are for effects, and GLX is for games
[15:09] <Desert_Storm> Okay, where can i get FGLRX_
[15:09] <sarah> so makes me think maybe hardware error?
[15:09] <white_eagle_> Arelis__, oh all that XGL, blah blah, GLX
[15:09] <white_eagle_> :)
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: there is a bit of an overlap at that card
[15:09] <kubitz> I suppose the logical answer then is that the network card isn't working for some reason
[15:10] <Arelis__> white_eagle_: yeah, 'tis confusing :)
[15:10] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, you already have fglrx don't you?
[15:10] <RMRV> esxuse me
[15:10] <kubitz> Can you change the network card in that comp to test that sarah?
[15:10] <white_eagle_> do you have compiz effects?
[15:10] <RMRV> i have a doubt
[15:10] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: fglrx is the propietary drivers
[15:10] <Desert_Storm> Ah, yeah
[15:10] <sarah> dont have another :O(
[15:10] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: If you have those drivers, that may be the cause
[15:10] <vwbusguy> Desert_Storm: you can get it from thye livna repo
[15:10] <white_eagle_> !fglrx
[15:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:10] <sarah> good idea tho thx
[15:10] <Arelis__> vwbusguy: this is not fedora
[15:10] <vwbusguy> sorry, wrong channel
[15:10] <Desert_Storm> So how do i uninstall them_
[15:10] <kubitz> sarah nah I suppose it's not the kind of thing you keep as a spare :)
[15:11] <soweto76> motherboard claims "SATA II"-- lspci shows " IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller" is this real SATA device or some kind of bridge?
[15:11] <RMRV> i foung this worm, virus, whatever in my pen drive Mircosoftpowerpoint.exe, and i cant remove it with ubuntu, why?
[15:11] <Arelis__> Desert_Storm: Go to 'screens' in Administration and change the driver from fglrx to radeon
[15:11] <kubitz> It does look like a hardware problem though if too different opsystems don't work
[15:11] <valberg> is there any support channel for upgrading to hardyheron ?
[15:11] <erUSUL> soweto76: real
[15:11] <sarah> maybe i must go buy a wireless card? (would it work if the motherboard integrated one doesnt?)
[15:11] <erUSUL> !hardy | valberg
[15:11] <kubitz> I suppose you tried swapping the cables?
[15:11] <RMRV> does anyobe have an idea?
[15:11] <ubotu> valberg: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:11] <white_eagle_> sarah, I guess you can't change the motheboard integrated one
[15:12] <white_eagle_> RMRV, I suggest using anti-virus software
[15:12] <kubitz> sarah could well do - I added a  Realtek to one comp and that worked
[15:12] <RMRV> but in ubuntu???
[15:12] <white_eagle_> I guess avast4linux home edition would work
[15:12] <Desert_Storm> Okay, gonna reboot
[15:12] <sarah> kubitz: cool thx
[15:12] <white_eagle_> yeah
[15:12] <Desert_Storm> Thanks guys
[15:12] <soweto76> erUSUL, I was expecting some reference to AHCI but his seems to be connected via IDE
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: One sec
[15:12] <Desert_Storm> Okay
[15:12] <RMRV> white: isnt this virus for windows?
[15:12] <white_eagle_> RMRV, linux has antivirus progs, although he doesn't need it
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56630/   Here are my notre on setting up that card...   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56630/
[15:13] <erUSUL> soweto76: you should be able to configure that on the mb BIOS
[15:13] <white_eagle_> RMRV, yes yes, but that prog. scnas for win virueses so you don't pass them to your friends
[15:13] <white_eagle_> scans*
[15:13] <Desert_Storm> What file to overwrite_
[15:13] <kubitz> sarah there is a list of supported network cards somewhere
[15:13] <white_eagle_> bye guys
[15:13] <soweto76> erUSUL, OK, thanks, I will take a look.
[15:13] <brobostigon> !hcl
[15:13] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:13] <erUSUL> soweto76: ahci mode for the ide chip i mean
[15:13] <genii> !hcl
[15:13] <white_eagle_> I have to study o_0
[15:13] <genii> brobostigon: Heh
[15:13] <RMRV> white: i understant, but, how could'nt i remove it
[15:14] <RMRV> ?
[15:14] <Desert_Storm> Jack_Sparrow: What file to overwrite
[15:14] <kubitz> ubotu that's the one I never remember urls :(
[15:14] <white_eagle_> RMRV, do you have any av software installed?
[15:14] <erUSUL> soweto76: mine has three modes ahci; raid (fakeraid) and legacy or something like that ahci is prefered for linux
[15:14] <white_eagle_> !tab | RMRV
[15:14] <ubotu> RMRV: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:14] <soweto76> erUSUL, how does the ide and sata work together -- I thought they were separate.
[15:14] <sarah> kubitz: even if i cant find one of those at best buy i could try out ndiswrapper :)
[15:14] <white_eagle_> :)
[15:14] <RMRV> white_eagle_:  what is as av software?
[15:15] <erUSUL> soweto76: they are separate
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: Have you done this    apt-get install xserver-xgl
[15:15] <RMRV> ubotu: thanks
[15:15] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[15:15] <prince_jammys> RMRV:  antivirus
[15:15] <riotkittie> RMRV: can you not just delete the file from the pen drive? or format it {assuming anything of value on the drive is backed up elsewhere}
[15:15] <RMRV> prince_jammys:  no, i do not have ir
[15:15] <Desert_Storm> Yes
[15:15] <kubitz> sarah you could. I tell what I would say is if you do get Realtek check what chipset it uses because there are two distinct driver for each type and it asked me to select which at setup which caught me out at the time
[15:15] <soweto76> erUSUL, this lspci output only show SATA on the "IDE interface"
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: and then sudo depmod -a
[15:16] <Desert_Storm> Did it now
[15:16] <erUSUL> soweto76: well SATA is an evolution of IDE
[15:16] <andy_> hi
[15:16] <RMRV> riotkittie: no, i cant delet it, it apaers again
[15:16] <white_eagle_> Desert_Storm, does dir. rendering work now?
[15:16] <joeamined> hi
[15:16] <white_eagle_> !hi | andy_
[15:16] <ubotu> andy_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: See my notes on the edit of your xorg
[15:16] <soweto76> erUSUL, Thanks again.  I will fiddle with the BIOS as you suggested.
[15:16] <joeamined> is it possible to emulate a mouse button with a keyboard key ?
[15:16] <andy_> can anyone help me please my system hangs when i logoff
[15:16] <erUSUL> soweto76: they are two forms of ide old PATA (parallel ATA) and new SATA (serial ATA)
[15:17] <Desert_Storm> sudo depmod -a, wrote that, now what should i do_
[15:17] <Slart> question for someone who knows about dvd players.. if I burn a regular data dvd with multiple avi's in the root folder of a DVD.. what are the chances my dvd player will just play them? (yes, I'm to lazy to try) =)
[15:17] <RMRV> riotkittie: i meant, just some seconds after deletin, the file is there again
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: Edit your xorg.conf per the notes
[15:17] <RMRV> riotkittie: i wanted to understant why
[15:17] <kubitz> andy_ Mine did that - does it say halted but not quite finish?
[15:17] <soweto76> erUSUL, OK
[15:18] <andy_> it just locks up if i do a logoff or shutdown
[15:18] <riotkittie> RMRV: that sounds terribly bizarre.
[15:18] <andy_> i'm thinking it could be the ati drivers
[15:18] <RMRV> riotkittie: moreover, my pendrive has broken just after this, or burn, sorry, i dont know how to say this in englush
[15:18] <soweto76> erUSUL, I assume that the two SATA connectors are independent and not two drives one channel like the old ide -- that correct?
[15:18] <RMRV> riotkittie: it is bizarre for me too
[15:18] <erUSUL> soweto76: yes
[15:19] <kubitz> Ah different problem - I'm too new with linux to answer anything I haven't actually some across :(
[15:19] <RMRV> riotkittie: it was working just like a virus for linux
[15:19] <Desert_Storm> Jack_Sparrow: Copy the whole note?
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: I just got online to get my mail...  those simple edits should get you going.
[15:19] <joeamined> is it possible to emulate a mouse button with a keyboard key ?
[15:19] <seba_> jestes ??
[15:19] <soweto76> erUSUL, 10Q l8r B-)
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> See the section on editing the xorg  it is only a couple lines
[15:19] <Desert_Storm> Ah, okay
[15:19] <Desert_Storm> Thanks )D
[15:19] <kubitz> joeamined you mean the way you have to be able to with some games?
[15:20] <RMRV> no one has any idea?
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: Save the link as it has other troubleshooting info at the end
[15:20] <Desert_Storm> done
[15:21] <joeamined> kubitz : no just a keyboard key that has same functionality as the right mouse button
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: fglrxinfo shows ati and not mesa correct?
[15:21] <RMRV> well, thaks anyway
[15:21] <Desert_Storm> ATI Technologies Inc. Rendered string: ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series
[15:22] <andy_> yeah
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Desert_Storm: great, take care
[15:22] <Desert_Storm> You too :P
[15:22] <andy_> fglrxinfo
[15:23] <Aciid> where is the ATI grapihcs card tutorial
[15:23] <Aciid> the ubuntu wiki is confusing
[15:23] <Aciid> cant find any tutorials
[15:24] <linduxed> ive got a light inside my headphone input (red, LED i think) that lights up when i use windows, making it easier to find, however it does not light up in ubuntu, do you know what to do or where to look for a solution? I've googled some but cant seem to find anything....
[15:24] <MJLG> how do i get help in spanish?
[15:24] <LjL> !es | MJLG
[15:24] <ubotu> MJLG: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:24] <MJLG> gracias
[15:24] <nano_> hola
[15:24] <MJLG> thankyou
[15:25] <dan-902> using ubuntu 7.04 & firefox - what do I need to play quicktime embed mp4 video on a webpage
[15:25] <chook1> hello all from FRANCE big up to All LINUX user'S
[15:25] <chook1> :)
[15:26] <Slart> linduxed: probably something the manufacturers proprietary driver took care of and the guy who wrote the linux driver didn't think was worth spending time on
[15:26] <pro-rsoft> hi
[15:26] <pro-rsoft> how to fix gpg issues with ubuntu and canonical server
[15:26] <bigsam> rtfm
[15:26] <Slart> pro-rsoft: you man apt whining about unsigned packages?
[15:26] <pro-rsoft> yup
[15:26] <Hammer89> hello... I'm having some issue with my computer... a few minutes ago nearly everything stopped functioning (I couldn't open any new programs)... so I pressed ctrl-alt-delete to go back to the login screen... tried logging back in... but it just brought me back to the login screen... then I pressed ctrl-alt-f2 and tried working from the CLI... but every time I'd input a command it would feed me an error saying "bash: fork: Resource tem
[15:26] <Hammer89> porarily unavailable"
[15:27] <Slart> bigsam: not helpful.. please don't do that again
[15:27] <bazhang> bigsam cut it out
[15:27] <pro-rsoft> !gpg
[15:27] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[15:28] <bazhang> dan-902: what page--let me see if mplayer plugin will do it
[15:28] <biouser> I need to be able to gmake...
[15:28] <linduxed> Slart: yeah i understand that, but what is it controlled by?
[15:28] <Slart> pro-rsoft: you have to add the gpg key to your little storage of keys..
[15:28] <pro-rsoft> Slart, where can i find the keys
[15:28] <TrapperDave> Amarok hangs during start up. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
[15:28] <Slart> pro-rsoft: it's the same with almost all repositories.. hang on.. let me check
[15:28] <seba_> siema
[15:29] <bazhang> TrapperDave: try starting it from the console and tell us any error messages you get
[15:29] <Slart> linduxed: probably some function only existing in the windows driver.. do you really really really need it?
[15:29] <biouser> http://pastebin.com/d708943d6
[15:29] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: gnome or kde?
[15:29] <biouser> there is a copy of my MAKEFILE
[15:29] <TrapperDave> ok bazhang: Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
[15:29] <TrapperDave> Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[15:29] <TrapperDave> kbuildsycoca running...
[15:29] <TrapperDave> DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
[15:29] <TrapperDave> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x82a1c90 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[15:29] <biouser> graphiz says that it may need to be altered
[15:29] <FloodBot2> TrapperDave: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:29] <TrapperDave> QLayout "unnamed" added to QVBox "unnamed", which already has a layout
[15:30] <biouser> anyone know how I might have to alter it for a pretty standard GUTSY?
[15:30] <biouser> or what packages might make it run
[15:30] <prince_jammys> !paste | TrapperDave
[15:30] <ubotu> TrapperDave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:30] <nano_> HELO
[15:30] <biouser> gmake: command not found
[15:30] <prince_jammys> oops sorry, bot already took care of that
[15:31] <TrapperDave> it's saying that xine was unable to initialise audio.
[15:31] <bazhang> TrapperDave: there is another music app running?
[15:31] <Slart> pro-rsoft: here is one page.. look a bit down.. managing authentication keys
[15:31] <TrapperDave> No, that's the only one.
[15:31] <Slart> pro-rsoft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:31] <pro-rsoft> ok
[15:31] <pro-rsoft> hmm, it seems that whatever server i'm using the apt-get update always hangs after a certain time
[15:31] <biouser> anyone know anything about gmake?
[15:31] <TrapperDave> It just hangs on the splash screen.
[15:32] <bazhang> TrapperDave: when did this start happening or has it always been this way
[15:32] <shishirmk> hi can any guide with using some command line mail clients?
[15:32] <Slart> pro-rsoft: added any weird repositories?
[15:32] <pro-rsoft> Slart: no
[15:32] <shishirmk> i have installed mutt
[15:32] <TrapperDave> Yesterday it wouldn't play any mp3s so I uninstalled it. I re-installed it today and now it won't work at all.
[15:32] <shishirmk> please tell me how to use it with google
[15:32] <TrapperDave> This is what happens.
[15:32] <shishirmk> i mean gmai;
[15:32] <pro-rsoft> Translation-en_US always fails
[15:32] <shishirmk> gmail*
[15:33] <natan> tem algum brasileiro ai
[15:33] <biouser> hahaha, take all the g's out of the MAKEFILE... haha
[15:33] <jrib> shishirmk: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/ use imap with gmail
[15:33] <jrib> !br | natan
[15:33] <ubotu> natan: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:33] <biouser> because we are already all kinds of in GNU
[15:33] <bazhang> TrapperDave: do other music apps play those same mp3s? not using feisty here though perhaps that does not matter
[15:33] <Slart> !repos
[15:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[15:33] <biouser> now about glut and OpenGL...
[15:33] <TrapperDave> Rythmnbox plays them with no problems.
[15:34] <TrapperDave> I can't even get into Amarok now to see if still can't play them.
[15:34] <pro-rsoft> oh by the way. is there any kind of update-manager for cli?
[15:34] <bazhang> TrapperDave: you removed it via aptitude apt-get or add/remove?
[15:34] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: paste the whole error in the pastebin
[15:34] <TrapperDave> I used Synaptic.
[15:35] <bazhang> that is odd
[15:35] <arochford> pro-rsoft: sudo aptitude update redownloads your list of packages
[15:35] <arochford> pro-rsoft: and sudo aptitude upgrade will upgrade any with never versions
[15:36] <biouser> if a program says that it needs lex/yacc, glut and OpenGl... what packages should I get to build the program?
[15:36] <TrapperDave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56633/
[15:36] <biouser> !glut
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glut - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <pro-rsoft> arochford, what about distro upgrades
[15:36] <biouser> !OpenGL
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <biouser> !yacc
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yacc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <pawan> hi
[15:36] <genii> !info yacc
[15:36] <ubotu> Package yacc does not exist in gutsy
[15:36] <arochford> pro-rsoft: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[15:36] <genii> hmm
[15:36] <pro-rsoft> ok thanks arochford
[15:36] <arochford> pro-rsoft: or aptitude safe-upgrade
[15:37] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: and you use gnome or kde?
[15:37] <biouser> !libglut3-dev
[15:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libglut3-dev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:37] <pro-rsoft> !info libglut3-dev
[15:37] <ubotu> libglut3-dev (source: glut): development libraries and headers for GLUT. In component main, is optional. Version 3.7-25 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 48 kB
[15:37] <biouser> thanks pro-rsoft !
[15:37] <TrapperDave> Gnome I think. All I know is that it's Gutsy. I only started using Linux last week.
[15:38] <bazhang> TrapperDave: what about amarokapp in the terminal? does that start it--you may need to give it a moment or two to launch
[15:38] <pro-rsoft> is there any way to restore sources.list to default?
[15:38] <deadly_one> #ubuntu
[15:39] <deadly_one> shit
[15:39] <erUSUL> pro-rsoft: System>Admin>Software sources
[15:39] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: in a terminal type :       ls -dl .kde     and paste the line here
[15:39] <TrapperDave> bazhang: I get the error message: Xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[15:39] <bazhang> pro-rsoft: what kind of extra stuff do you have in there
[15:39] <stdin> pro-rsoft: there's a simple on in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[15:40] <pro-rsoft> ok thanks
[15:40] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: drwx------ 3 davidpilditch davidpilditch 4096 2008-02-18 02:29 .kde
[15:40] <bazhang> deadly_one: language
[15:40] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: thats fine.  when does the xine error come up?
[15:40] <TrapperDave> When amarokapp loads.
[15:41] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: sorry if someone asked this already -- other sound stuff works?
[15:41] <pro-rsoft> hmm. i might have a different problem.
[15:42] <TrapperDave> Yea, RythmnBox runs fine.
[15:42] <pro-rsoft> sudo apt-get update always hangs at a certain time
[15:42] <pro-rsoft> at this step: 99% [46 Packages bzip2 0]
[15:43] <soulc> ok what would be the proper channel for mail/postfix questions?
[15:43] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, try strace
[15:43] <pro-rsoft> first control+c then strace?
[15:43] <chris___> hi folks
[15:44] <chris___> I'm in serious need of some help
[15:44] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, open another terminal, via ps obtain pid of apt-get ...
[15:44] <pro-rsoft> ah
[15:44] <chris___> my laptop just started lagging like crazy, and I can't find the reason
[15:44] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, and then strace -p <pid_of_proces>
[15:44] <pro-rsoft> ok thanks
[15:44] <chris___> there isn't a process that's lagging it down
[15:44] <chris___> firefox and gaim both crawl right after boot up
[15:44] <nemilar> chris___: where (hardware wise) do you suppose the bottleneck is?  RAM/SWAP? CPU? HDD?
[15:44] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: just a test::: run --> sudo amarok
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> bigsam, and then?
[15:45] <chris___> nemilar: I have 2GB of ram... maybe hard drive
[15:45] <chris___> I just replaced my hard drive
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> select(1, [0], NULL, NULL, NULL
[15:45] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, you will see what is process doing ..
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> thats what i get
[15:45] <nemilar> chris___: run 'top' in a terminal
[15:45] <TrapperDave> Ah; that seems to have worked.
[15:45] <pro-rsoft> well it does nothing bigsam
[15:45] <chris___> but it was working better than this after I replaced it
[15:45] <chris___> this was rather sudden
[15:45] <chris___> nemilar: okay, I'm running top
[15:45] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: ok close it. you dont want to run amarok as superuser.  now we're onto something
[15:45] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, it says to you that process is waiting for some event on some descriptor ..
[15:46] <nemilar> chris___: what's your system load average?  are there processes at the top, eating up all your resources?
[15:46] <TrapperDave> Done :)
[15:46] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, more with man select
[15:46] <chris___> ~.90
[15:46] <chris___> but as soon as I do something, it jumps to 2
[15:46] <nemilar> chris___: what process makes it jump?
[15:46] <chris___> .90 is when I'm using bitchx on a text terminal while X is completely idle
[15:46] <pro-rsoft> bigsam: no manual entry for select
[15:46] <chris___> nemilar: anything... firefox, gaim (pidgin)
[15:47] <nemilar> chris___: but is it those processes that appear in top, or is it something else? (e.g, if you're running Compiz, is it the Xgl process)
[15:47] <chris___> I can't even get X to redraw right now when I hit ctrl+atl+F7
[15:47] <Serv|Funch> i need help, i just type problem here or what should i do ?
[15:47] <pro-rsoft> just type your problem
[15:47] <pro-rsoft> and hope you get an answer ;)
[15:47] <Pici> !ask
[15:47] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:47] <chris___> nemilar: I'm not running compiz, and it lags way before the process at the top (firefox-bin) opens
[15:48] <Serv|Funch> my friends choosed too high resolution, so his screen just turned black and nothing else, he can start it in text mode, is it possible to change resolutin there ?
[15:48] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, sudo aptitude install manpages-dev
[15:48] <chris___> I just killed firefox and X still won't redraw
[15:48] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: do you have any personal settings in amarok?
[15:48] <pro-rsoft> ok
[15:48] <Lartza_> what are the advantages of compiling nvidia drivers with kernel?
[15:48] <TrapperDave> I don't honestly know.
[15:49] <pro-rsoft> Serv|Funch: what about editing xorg.conf (not sure tho)
[15:49] <chris___> Lartza_: you mean as opposed to using a pre-compiled binary?
[15:49] <brobostigon> Serv|Funch: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe??
[15:49] <Lartza_> maybe
[15:49] <Serv|Funch> how does it work :/ i'm n4p need more help or sth :D
[15:49] <pro-rsoft> oh wait
[15:49] <bigsam> pro-rsoft, it'seems that apt-get is awaiting event on some descriptor ( maybe from another process ) which probably died ...
[15:49] <pro-rsoft> okay
[15:49] <pro-rsoft> could be yes
[15:49] <pro-rsoft> Serv|Funch: xorgconfig
[15:49] <pro-rsoft> run that
[15:50] <chris___> nemilar: any idea?
[15:50] <pro-rsoft> or xf86config.
[15:50] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: ok, just in case::    cp -r   ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/  amarokbackup      and then::      rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/
[15:50] <Serv|Funch> i'll just have to type "xorgconfig" to terminal ?
[15:50] <TrapperDave> Ok, I've done those two steps now.
[15:50] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: try opening amarok normally
[15:50] <pro-rsoft> Serv|Funch: no, like this: "sudo xorgconfig"
[15:50] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Serv|Funch
[15:50] <pro-rsoft> also possible yes
[15:51] <bazhang> pro-rsoft: that is exactly it ;]
[15:51] <spudratic0> hello all
[15:51] <TrapperDave> It works! :) But it won't play mp3s :(
[15:51] <ZarakiSan> So, I've got got Totem installed, and the Ugly package to suport DVD, but I still get the error that DVD playback isn't supported yet. Any thoughts?
[15:51] <bazhang> !dvd
[15:51] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:51] <Serv|Funch> should it be sth like this? :
[15:51] <Serv|Funch> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[15:51] <Serv|Funch> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[15:51] <Serv|Funch> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:51] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: mmmm
[15:51] <pro-rsoft> Serv|Funch: no
[15:51] <pro-rsoft> Serv|Funch: like this: "sudo xorgconfig"
[15:51] <pro-rsoft> not more
[15:51] <chris___> alright.. I think it's time for me to give up and reformat
[15:51] <Serv|Funch> and it automaticaly fix that crap ?
[15:51] <bazhang> heh
[15:51] <shinichizio> Quick question: Where can I change the way my mouse registers clicks?
[15:52] <shinichizio> Switch left-click stuff to the middle button, and so on
[15:52] <Terrasque> whats the channel for next ubuntu?
[15:52] <pro-rsoft> Serv|Funch, just try it
[15:52] <pro-rsoft> !hardy
[15:52] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:52] <bazhang> !hardy
[15:52] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: did you use feisty before and the upgraded to gutsy?
[15:52] <TrapperDave> I didn't. It was a fresh install. I was previously running Vista.
[15:53] <jtaylor> Anyone know of a good email forwarding service?
[15:53] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: try the following, and once done see if you can run amarok normally::     sudo apt-get install libxine1-misc-plugins
[15:53] <Fizzwizzle> hello
[15:53] <TrapperDave> I get an error : Couldn't find package libxine1-misc-plugin
[15:54] <prince_jammys> !info libxine1-misc-plugin
[15:54] <ubotu> Package libxine1-misc-plugin does not exist in gutsy
[15:54] <chris___> I'm in a real jam.  My laptop started lagging horribly - to the point of being unusable - after I formatted the free space at the end of my drive to ext3... can anyone please help me figure out why it's lagging?
[15:54] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: heh
[15:54] <shinichizio> I ask 'cuz I don't know the keyboard shortcuts for Firefox, and I'm not too fond of jamming a pen into my mouse to make the left button work to ask Google. So, like, anyone? Mouse reconfigure?
[15:54] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: plugins with an "s'
[15:54] <prince_jammys> !info libxine1-misc-plugins
[15:54] <ubotu> Package libxine1-misc-plugins does not exist in gutsy
[15:54] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: crap
[15:54] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: hold on
[15:55] <TrapperDave> Ok.
[15:55] <john-pine> hi
[15:55] <john-pine> is there a way to restart the audio service ?
[15:55] <chris___> man, this place is completely useless for all but the simplest of problems
[15:55] <Serv|Funch> pro-rsoft it says "command not found" :SDSAD ?
[15:55] <john-pine> i listen music with youtube but it's really dirty sound
[15:55] <chris___> you guys know how to kill processes and that's about it, it seems
[15:55] <john-pine> but after reboot it works fine
[15:55] <pro-rsoft> Serv|Funch, then try the way you suggested
[15:55] <chris___> I miss #debian
[15:55] <Serv|Funch> k
[15:56] <john-pine> but i dont want to reboot everytime i listen to music
[15:56] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Serv|Funch
[15:56] <Pici> !attitude | chris___
[15:56] <ubotu> chris___: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:56] <chris___> Pici: I can't even browse to that URL
[15:56] <pro-rsoft> john-pine: killall -KILL xine ?
[15:57] <john-pine> pro-rsoft: no xine running on my box
[15:57] <chris___> Pici: and I know they're volunteers, and that's great, I'm just pointing out that it reminds me alot of the windows crowd... linux users used to be very skilled people
[15:57] <Pici> chris___: Did you accidentally get rid of your swap? I've had issues in the past with lag-out-of-knowhere when my swap failed to mount.
[15:57] <Slart> 225855555            9
[15:57] <capricorn^80> hi ! i am looking for Gui based tool that can help me in checking my web server log
[15:57] <chris___> Pici: on second thought, I do appologize for acting like that
[15:57] <chris___> I'm just freaking out because my work computer is out of commission
[15:57] <chris___> let me check on the swap
[15:58] <Pici> chris___: I know the feeling
[15:58] <bsdnewb07> hmm whats the command to update apt-get
[15:58] <bsdnewb07> apt-get update?
[15:58]  * pro-rsoft is lost
[15:58] <bazhang> with sudo
[15:58] <pro-rsoft> shall i reinstall bzip2?
[15:58] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: this shouldn't matter, but try restarting
[15:59] <TrapperDave> Okay, I'll be back in two minutes.
[15:59] <bazhang> pro-rsoft: your sources list is bad?
[15:59] <puppetmaster> Hello everyone
[15:59] <chris___> Pici: swap wouldn't normally show up in 'mount' output, right?
[15:59] <chris___> I'm not really sure how to check to see if my kernel is using swap, and if so, what partition it's trying to use
[15:59] <ZarakiSan> So, as per the instructions on the !DVD guide, I installed GXine and it doesn't play my DVD either. Error: No demuxer found - stream format not recognized
[16:00] <puppetmaster> i installed cpanel/whm but it won't work after restarting the system
[16:00] <puppetmaster> What should I do?
[16:00] <pro-rsoft> bazhang: i just replaced it with default but it still doesnt work
[16:00] <bazhang> ZarakiSan: libdvdcss2 is the package you need
[16:00] <ZarakiSan> Ah, alright, ty
[16:00] <mysterycool> what is a good linux program which i can take movie screenshots?
[16:00] <erUSUL> !dvd | ZarakiSan
[16:00] <ubotu> ZarakiSan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:00] <waini> anyone here using a via epia mainboard???
[16:00] <Mr_Sonoma> bsdnewb07, depends on what you want to do, if your wanting to update the list of avail packages then yes, if your wating to upgrade your current packages with any avail upgrades then apt-get upgrade
[16:00] <mysterycool> what is a good linux program which i can take movie screenshots?
[16:01] <arochford> mysterycool: istanbul
[16:01] <mysterycool> what is a good linux program which i can take video screenshots?
[16:01] <chris___> Pici: oh wow, look at that.  top says I'm using 0k of swap, although it also says I have 2GB of it... I'm not sure what to make of that.  I should be using *some*, right?
[16:01] <bazhang> bsdnewb07: with sudo appended to the front of course
[16:01] <pro-rsoft> mysterycool: istanbul
[16:01] <waini> does anyone know something about via mainboards and acpi???
[16:01] <puppetmaster> Anyone knows about cpanel?
[16:01] <chris___> mysterycool: won't totem ("movie player") take screenshots?
[16:01] <pro-rsoft> !cpanel
[16:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpanel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:01] <bazhang> mysterycool: like of your desktop, or just stuff in mplayer
[16:01] <chris___> mysterycool: if not, mplayer for sure
[16:01] <capricorn^80> hi ! i am looking for Gui based tool that can help me in checking my web server log.
[16:02] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: It won't load properly again and it's showing the xine error.
[16:02] <ZarakiSan> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[16:02] <ZarakiSan> Doesn't work. Replacing /usr with /zsan doesn't, either. (My user name)
[16:02] <Pici> chris___: If it says you have 2gb, then at least its mounted.
[16:02] <TrapperDave> prince_Jammys: I can run it fine from terminal though.
[16:02] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: really?
[16:02] <ZarakiSan> (Command not found)
[16:02] <bazhang> ZarakiSan: how are you installing this? manually?
[16:02] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: you mean without sudo?
[16:03] <TrapperDave> It works without sudo from terminal.
[16:03] <clocKwize> i'm trying to install something and the config script fails, with: failed to run aclocal: No such file or directory - i've looked on the package manager search and can't find anything called aclocal
[16:03] <ZarakiSan> I just did sudo apt-get install libdvdread3, bazhang
[16:03] <waini> is there an ubuntu kernel without apic support? (especcially the alternative install version?)
[16:03] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: and plays mp3s
[16:03] <TrapperDave> But if I selectr from Applications >> Sound & VIdeo >> Amarok it displays the errors.
[16:03] <mysterycool> ty :D
[16:03] <bazhang> www.medibuntu.org ZarakiSan is where you need to go they have instructions there for libdvdcss2 and how to install it
[16:04] <TrapperDave> It won't play mp3s. I get a pop up telling me to install mp3 support but that doesn't apperar to solve the problem.
[16:04] <pro-rsoft> ahgrr what makes bzip2 crash
[16:04] <Knightwse> does anybody have any experience in using ubuntu software raid ?
[16:04] <pro-rsoft> 99% [74 Packages bzip2 0]
[16:04] <ZarakiSan> Oh, that one. Sorry, didn't understand properly.
[16:04] <NattyTux> hi....
[16:04] <erUSUL> !raid
[16:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:04] <NattyTux> How do I replace one charcter with another with echo command?
[16:04] <Grab> how can i use my remote shell as a web proxy ?
[16:04] <pro-rsoft> tr
[16:04] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux, tr
[16:04] <NattyTux> 10x!!!!!!
[16:05] <shinichizio> I'll ask again; how do I set up a multi-button mouse on Ubuntu? Firefox is giving me grief.
[16:05] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux,  echo ubuntu | tr u o <<< that will print obonto
[16:05] <TrapperDave> Wait I got my description wrong. If I go Applications >> Sound & Media >> Amarok it won't load at all. If I load Anarok from teh terminal it won;t play mp3s.
[16:06] <NattyTux> thanks man!!!!!
[16:06] <NattyTux> alot!
[16:06] <pro-rsoft> yw NattyTux ;)
[16:06] <kaleh> hi all. when i insert a data-DVD i have, it gives an error "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'."  and doesn't mount. what should i do?
[16:06] <mysterycool> whats a good desktop video recorder but where you can select how big the recording area will be?
[16:06] <clocKwize> i'm trying to install something and the config script fails, with: failed to run aclocal: No such file or directory - i've looked on the package manager search and can't find anything called aclocal?
[16:06] <Slart> shinichizio: in xorg.conf.. you have some mouse button settings there
[16:06] <popey> !screencast | mysterycool
[16:06] <ubotu> mysterycool: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[16:06] <mysterycool> ty :D
[16:06] <frold> In Evolution I want to set up spamssassin - but it say the module aint installed - what package to choose to install spamassasin?
[16:06] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: and if you run sudo amarok can you play an mp3?
[16:07] <prince_jammys> !who | TrapperDave
[16:07] <ubotu> TrapperDave: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:07] <neverblue> morning
[16:07] <shinichizio> Slart: Great, thanks. I finally got Firefox to cough something up, too. So where is that and what do I do to xorg.conf when I find it? :p
[16:07] <capricorn^80> hi ! i am looking for Gui based tool that can help me in checking my web server log.
[16:07] <pro-rsoft> !tab | me
[16:07] <ubotu> me: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:07] <joeamined> hi
[16:07] <Slart> shinichizio: it's in /etc/X11/ .. and you want to find a section called input or something
[16:07] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: use the tab key to autocomplete my name so your message is highlighted on my end
[16:08] <TrapperDave> I just got a message saying "The xine engine claims that it cannot play mp3s".
[16:08] <joeamined> i'm using mouseemu to emulate mouse buttons with keyboard keys. What is the super key keycode ?
[16:08] <Klanticus> hi... may someone point me an irc channel to find help about routing in linux?
[16:08] <Slart> shinichizio: Section "Inputdevice" is what you're looking for
[16:08] <Pici> Klanticus: #networking or ##linux
[16:08] <TrapperDave> priince_jammys: It won't play mp3s even with sudo amarok.
[16:09] <joeamined> i'm using mouseemu to emulate mouse buttons with keyboard keys. What is the super key keycode ?
[16:09] <shinichizio> Slart: Alrighty, I'll look there now.
[16:09] <frold> !spamassassin > frold
[16:09] <Klanticus> Pici, thx
[16:09] <Floi> hi
[16:09] <kaleh> Klanticus: ##networking ?
[16:09] <Pici> !mp3 > TrapperDave (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:09] <Floi> can I ask questions about ubuntu in this chan?
[16:09] <pro-rsoft> !ask | Floi
[16:09] <ubotu> Floi: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:09] <NattyTux> another quetion:
[16:09] <neverblue> Floi yes :)
[16:10] <AppleHein> hi again
[16:10] <ZarakiSan> bazhang, I installed libdvdcss2 and w32codecs succesfully, but didn't get any results. Should a reboot help?
[16:10] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: try:: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:10] <NattyTux> how to I sent tr a space charcter?
[16:10] <NattyTux> send
[16:10] <AppleHein> applehein @ vmware @ ubuntu 7.10
[16:10] <NattyTux> I mean I want to "tell" it to replace each "space" character with new line
[16:10] <bazhang> ZarakiSan: you quit the app and then reloaded the dvd?
[16:10] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux: use ' '
[16:10] <NattyTux> oh..... I used " " ... heheheh
[16:10] <Floi> !ask how can I change the soundcard mixer to alsa from oss?
[16:10] <ZarakiSan> bazhang, unmount/mount?
[16:11] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux: like tr ' ' _ will replace space with underscore
[16:11] <NattyTux> someday I'll learn linux... (((-:
[16:11] <pro-rsoft> double quotes will work too
[16:11] <bazhang> ZarakiSan: eject? is this a physical dvd or an iso?
[16:11] <dholbach> Ubuntu Development Week is up and running in #ubuntu-classroom!
[16:11] <NattyTux> thanks!
[16:11] <neverblue> Floi,  you just type in your question, no need to the '!' :)
[16:11] <ZarakiSan> Eject and reinsert made it start automatically, heh. Thanks for the help. Didn't know that mattered ;)
[16:11] <AppleHein> how can I make ubuntu to use my scrollwheel? kde does with kubuntu.
[16:11] <bazhang> np
[16:12] <Slart> AppleHein: map it in your xorg.conf
[16:12] <neverblue> Floi, inside what application are you attempting to use alsa instead ?
[16:12] <NattyTux> what is the difference between writing :
[16:12] <AppleHein> how must I do that map?
[16:12] <NattyTux> echo "hello"
[16:12] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: I get a message saying "some media could not be loaded (playable). when I try and play an mp3.
[16:12] <NattyTux> echo 'hello'
[16:12] <erUSUL> Klanticus: http://lartc.org/lartc.html
[16:12] <NattyTux> ?
[16:12] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux, nearly nothing i guess
[16:12] <ZarakiSan> BTW: Does anyone get tired of DVD's that use interlacing? It's ugly.
[16:12] <neverblue> NattyTux, try it and find out?
[16:13] <NattyTux> so I wonder why when I used " " with tr it didnt work
[16:13] <Floi> I am trying alot of things to get the integrated microphone of my DELL XPS 1530 to run
[16:13] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux, it should be working
[16:13] <NattyTux> I tried , didnt see any difference...
[16:13] <neverblue> Floi, to run in which application?
[16:13] <Terrasque> NattyTux: try echo "$PATH" and echo '$PATH'
[16:13] <NattyTux> ok maybe some typo...
[16:13] <joeamined> i'm using mouseemu to emulate mouse buttons with keyboard keys. What is the super key keycode ?
[16:13] <Slart> NattyTux: I think with "" bash replaces stuff in the string
[16:14] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux, this works here: echo hello blah hi | tr " " _
[16:14] <Floi> I'm not exactly trying to use alsa for an application.
[16:14] <pro-rsoft> NattyTux, that printed hello_blah_hi
[16:14] <neverblue> Floi then how do you know it doesnt work out of the box then :)
[16:14] <NattyTux> yes, it was something I did wrong.
[16:14] <NattyTux> 10x
[16:14] <Floi> because I tried recording sth with both the audio recorder and audacity and it didn't work
[16:15] <Slart> NattyTux: try these two.. first echo "Hello $USERNAME" then echo 'Hello $USERNAME'
[16:15] <neverblue> Floi, then those are the 'applications' you are trying to get the mic to work in (took a bit of digging, but we got there)
[16:15] <Terrasque> NattyTux: you might want to take a look at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ :)
[16:15] <Floi> true :D
[16:15] <joeamined> please, how to find the key codes in ubuntu ?
[16:16] <shinichizio> Slart: So as it turns out, I have a spare mouse. Thanks for the help, though.
[16:16] <Slart> joeamined: try running xev in a terminal
[16:16] <Slart> shinichizio: oh.. ok. you're welcome
[16:17] <neverblue> Floi, sometimes you need to setup the hardware individually, within an application, so you want to look in audacity, there should be a setting to switch the audio to alsa.  There are also other audio related tools, such as alsamixer (to change volume settings) and lspci (gives you a hardware listing of your [pci] devices)
[16:17] <NattyTux> Terrasque : Great source , thanks!
[16:18] <Floi> yes. I've been trying alot of things with both alsa and audacity settings, but nothing worked. in alsamixer I have 3 entries that can be turned to "capture" and all of them seem to adress the external micro port
[16:19] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:19] <neverblue> Floi, then try alsamixer, and see which 'level' increases as your speaking...
[16:20] <neverblue> Floi, has the audio worked before, if so, what has changed that may have caused it to stop working?
[16:20] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: I get the same problem.
[16:21] <Grab> how can i know what port ssh is listening to ?
[16:21] <Floi> no I have audio, it's just the integrated micro that doesn't work. you mean if I start alsamixer the level will change when I'm speaking?
[16:21] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: one more time, because i'm stuck :)  ::    rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/
[16:21] <neverblue> Grab, you can port scan yourself, System -> Admin -> Network Tools
[16:21] <engida> What is the correct mysql syntax to select rows with a matching character in a field as in select * from `table` where `field` contains "certain character" ??
[16:21] <neverblue> Floi, thats the idea :D
[16:21] <Grab> neverblue,  i m talking about a shell
[16:22] <neverblue> Grab, you didnt specify that in your question :D
[16:22] <Floi> nothing happening
[16:22] <Grab> :D
[16:22] <tabman> I have installed dapper-drake and done all the updates using update-manager, now I want to upgrade to the latest stable version of Ubuntu (7.10), how can I do that ?
[16:22] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: Still won't play mp3s; however it will now load from the Applications >> Sound & Video.
[16:22] <spudratic0> 7.10 is far from stable
[16:22] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: heh
[16:22] <neverblue> Floi, lspci give you the device (please never post more than one line in the channel, for example, do not post your 'lspci' output in here)
[16:23] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: I think I might need to re-install the mp3 support option for Amarok.
[16:23] <bazhang> !upgrade | tabman
[16:23] <ubotu> tabman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:23] <Floi> so which line shall I post?
[16:23] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: i don't know what that is, but it sounds good :)
[16:23] <neverblue> Floi, none, take a look at the output, you should see something related to your mic... or audio
[16:23] <tabman> bazhang: ok Thanks let me just check that
[16:24] <jose_073> hi all. where can i get support of some ati video drivers? thks in adv :)
[16:24] <tabman> I can't jump from 6.06 directly to 7.10 ?
[16:24] <neverblue> tabman, nope
[16:24] <Trashlord> hi, I have a problem with installing and removing software
[16:24] <tabman> neverblue: thats bad
[16:24] <bazhang> tabman wait and you can go to hardy in one step, starting late april
[16:25] <neverblue> tabman, if you think about it though, that would be quite a bit of work
[16:25] <Trashlord> it keeps telling me to apt-get -f install
[16:25] <Floi> ok
[16:25] <Trashlord> to fix dependency problems
[16:25] <Trashlord> but when I do that, it's trying to remove the entire OS
[16:25] <Trashlord> 1413MB
[16:25] <Floi> what am I gonna do with that info :D
[16:25] <Trashlord> of packages
[16:25] <prince_jammys> !enter | Trashlord
[16:25] <ubotu> Trashlord: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:25] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: There's a file called install-mp3 in teh amarok folder but I don;t know how to run it.
[16:25] <neverblue> !pastebin | Floi
[16:25] <ubotu> Floi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:25] <capricorn^80> hi ! i am looking for tool that can help me in checking my web server log
[16:25] <neverblue> Floi, put the output on pastebin, then copy/paste the URL for it in here, so we can view it
[16:26] <cherwin> jose_073: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[16:26]  * da1e reading faq
[16:27] <Trashlord> ok
[16:27] <Trashlord> here's my problem, in more detail:
[16:27] <Trashlord> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=701434
[16:27] <neverblue> !enter | Trashlord
[16:27] <bazhang> TrapperDave: what method did you originally use to install mp3 support? did you add any odd repos?
[16:27] <ubotu> Trashlord: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:27] <Slart> capricorn^80: there are several.. check synaptic for log viewer or log monitor
[16:28] <TrapperDave> bazhang: It was all done from within Amorak. Although RythmnBox worked without any extra software I think.
[16:28] <Floi> http://pastebin.com/m2a0546e9
[16:29] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: here's what i'm looking at right now, after having tried all those others: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/157958
[16:29] <bazhang> TrapperDave: that is unlikely in the extreme; something must have been added for mp3s to work
[16:29] <PuppiesOnAcid> is there a hostap driver for USB wireless prism2?
[16:30] <AdvoWork> Hi there. Has anyone got any other way, rather than using cups to be able to go File > Print > to pdf in firefox in ubuntu?
[16:30] <neverblue> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Floi, this is your audio device
[16:30] <phamtan2402> hi
[16:30] <neverblue> Floi, check the forums for that device, possibly someone else is having the same issue as you
[16:31] <TrustNoOne> hey
[16:31] <phamtan2402> ok
[16:31] <krammer__> my printer is only ejecting paper without the text any thoughts?
[16:31] <graft> AdvoWork: what's wrong with cups?
[16:31] <phamtan2402> hi HoboBen
[16:31] <TrustNoOne> out of ink
[16:31] <neverblue> krammer__, put a toner in it :)
[16:31] <krammer__> no new
[16:31] <Trashlord> So, can you help me?
[16:31] <HoboBen> Hallo :-) What application can I use to open Microsoft Publisher files?
[16:31] <TrustNoOne> is this ubuntu HELP chat?
[16:31] <neverblue> HoboBen, use OpenOffice, I believe
[16:31] <neverblue> !patience | TrustNoOne
[16:31] <ubotu> TrustNoOne: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:32] <Slart> HoboBen: Microsoft publisher of course.. perhaps scribus or openoffice too
[16:32] <Pici> TrustNoOne: Yes, just ask the question :)
[16:32] <HoboBen> OpenOffice didn't recognise it, but I'll try scribus. Thanks slart, neverblue
[16:32] <graft> scribus doesn't do publisher
[16:32] <graft> i'm not sure anything does other than publisher
[16:32] <neverblue> HoboBen, yeah, wasnt sure about Publisher :/
[16:33] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: When I try listening to internet radio it tells me that xine was unablle to initialise any audio drivers.
[16:33] <Arelis_> Hi all. Is it safe to resize my NTFS partition containing an OEM windows installation?
[16:34] <neverblue> Arelis_, are you going to go back to Windows at some point?
[16:34] <TrustNoOne> Arelis, i would resize within windows
[16:34] <Slart> Arelis_: it's never really safe.. keep important stuff backed up
[16:34] <Hammer89> Arelis_: might cause you issues if you resize it from Linux
[16:34] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: do mp3s work now?
[16:34] <TrustNoOne> boot to windows and use partition magic to resize your NTFS partition, should be fine
[16:34] <Arelis_> neverblue, well it's a really stable install and linux has been unstable on my other harddrive
[16:34] <TrustNoOne> still backup tho
[16:34] <Arelis_> Hammer89, How must i resize it then?
[16:34] <TrapperDave> They don't, no.
[16:34] <Hammer89> Arelis_: boot into windows and do it from there...
[16:35] <neverblue> Arelis_, is this the OEM on a separate partition, which will be used to 'restore' Windows?
[16:35] <Arelis_> Hammer89, with what program?
[16:35] <Arelis_> neverblue, how can i check?
[16:35] <TrustNoOne> Arelis_: Boot into windows, backup important data, use partition magic to resize your NTFS partition and it should work
[16:35] <neverblue> Arelis_, you would know :)
[16:35] <Arelis_> TrustNoOne, i don't have partition magic
[16:35] <Hammer89> Arelis_: what TrustNoOne said would work,,, are you using vista?
[16:35] <Arelis_> neverblue, no, this is actually my dad's pc but he gave it to me
[16:35] <Arelis_> Hammer89, Windows XP
[16:35] <TrustNoOne> What do you have for a partitioning software for windows?
[16:36] <Arelis_> TrustNoOne, I didn't download/buy anything for that purpose
[16:36] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: i have to step away for a moment -- in the meantime, try sticking those error messages in google
[16:36] <joeamined> when using xev, i get a keycode but not the one used in mouseemu. what's the difference ? how to get the right code for mouseemu ?
[16:36] <TrapperDave> Okay.
[16:36] <neverblue> Arelis_, well, with some OEM Windows installs, there will be a separate partition, from which you can put in a boot CD, and it will restore your Windows installation on another partition
[16:36] <neverblue> Arelis_, that is ofcourse, unless you have the Windows media, then that partition would not be created
[16:36] <AdvoWork> graft is there no other way than cups?
[16:37] <Arelis_> neverblue, there is only one NTFS partition
[16:37] <Hammer89> Arelis_: this might be what TrustNoOne was referring to: http://www.soft32.com/download_151.html
[16:37] <graft> AdvoWork: maybe you could pipe it to kprinter or some such somehow
[16:37] <TrustNoOne> I believe you can get partition magic trial software
[16:37] <graft> AdvoWork: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205050
[16:38] <neverblue> Arelis_, ok, then, if you want to install Ubuntu, keeping the Windows installed as well, I might suggest a virtual machine, as the other methods may cause you to lose all your data (unless you used a tool like partition magic)
[16:38] <xerxes1358> Hello
[16:38] <xerxes1358> I have installed Kubuntu. How do I install GNOME so I can switch to Gnome?
[16:38] <graft> AdvoWork: although i'd ignore steps 5 & 6
[16:38] <Arelis_> neverblue, is partition magic a CD or a software that installs on windows?
[16:38] <LeGreffi3R> xerxes1358> yes
[16:38] <graft> AdvoWork: kprinter ought to be able to print straight to PDF without going through CUPS...
[16:38] <neverblue> Arelis_, software which you install on Windows, that handles partitions
[16:38] <Trashlord> Hi, I posted  my problem on the Ubuntu forums, can someone please check it and help me? Here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=701434
[16:39] <LeGreffi3R> xerxes1358> just install the "ubuntu-desktop" package.
[16:39] <Hammer89> Arelis_: you can download a trial of Partition Magic.. it installs on windows
[16:39] <xerxes1358> LeGreffi3R: thanks
[16:39] <Arelis_> Hammer89, okay
[16:40] <TrustNoOne> I'm a Linux N00b
[16:40] <India> http://forceindiaf1.freeblog.hu/
[16:41] <graft> Trashlord: what version of ubuntu?
[16:41] <Trashlord> 7.10
[16:41] <Trashlord> I just installed it today
[16:42] <graft> Trashlord: you installed from scratch and it's doing that? i am dubious
[16:42] <graft> Trashlord: did you install debs not from the repository?
[16:42] <Trashlord> It started after I tried to download libncurses5, which requires a dependency lib, calld libc6
[16:42] <graft> Trashlord: yeah, that's one of the very fundamental system libraries
[16:43] <dubcat_> exit
[16:43] <AdvoWork> graft tried that, but when i goto print,it does it automatically as it should, but got no idea where its saving to
[16:43] <Trashlord> It says I need to install a newer version of that library, but it won't do it, and therefore continuing the unmet dependencies problem
[16:43] <graft> AdvoWork: you tried what?
[16:44] <graft> Trashlord: you installed gutsy from CD? today? and tried installing alsa-utils via synaptic?
[16:44] <Trashlord> I installed gusty from CD, today, but all the alsa related packages were installed "manually", via terminal configuration and make commands
[16:45] <Trashlord> I read in the ubuntu forums that I have to do it, in order to get my EMU 1212m detected and working
[16:45] <spudratic0> well kater all lets see what I got today lol
[16:45] <Trashlord> The problem started when I tried to install alsa-utils, and had that unmet dependency lib
[16:45] <graball> Morning all..
[16:45] <whiteeagle> where is that guy who wanted direct rendering on ati?
[16:45] <whiteeagle> please call me, I'll give you a page
[16:46] <whiteeagle> I made it available + compiz
[16:46] <graball> Question about USB mouse freezes on Fiesty boot - any takers?
[16:46] <graft> Trashlord: ah... where did you get your alsa-related packages from?
[16:46] <Trashlord> Do you want me to pastebin you all the packages it tries to remove, when I do apt-get -f install?
[16:46] <Trashlord> From the Debian website
[16:46] <Hammer89> white_eagle: what's the page?
[16:46] <graft> Trashlord: you downloaded their .deb files?
[16:46] <white_eagle> does anyone remember with who was I talking about
[16:46] <white_eagle> the rendering
[16:47] <Trashlord> No, they are tar.bz2 files
[16:47] <bazhang> white_eagle: for the good of the community please share! ;]
[16:47] <white_eagle> please
[16:47] <graft> Trashlord: ah... okay, and it told you you had some dependency issues... which were what?
[16:47] <white_eagle> I found a great post at ubuntuforums.org
[16:47] <white_eagle> about direct rendering and ati
[16:47] <Hammer89> white_eagle: post the link?
[16:47] <Trashlord> It told me that I need a Curses library, when I did ./configure on the alsa-utils directory
[16:47] <AdvoWork> when printing to the kde printer, where would it print to/save to? its not giving me any option and ive got no idea where its going
[16:48] <graft> direct rendering and ati is easy if you have the right card, nearly impossible if you have the wrong card
[16:48] <Hilikus> is there some tool to autoconfigure xorg.conf?? my X server is not started since i upgraded to gutsy, it says its starting in safe mode and actually safe mode works fine, except when i play a full screen video the whole system freezes
[16:48] <graft> Trashlord: okay, and you installed that from synaptic?
[16:48] <Trashlord> I went into the README file there, and it said it requires ncurses, so I tried to apt-get it
[16:48] <graft> Trashlord: what file was that?
[16:48] <graft> Trashlord: or what package was that rather
[16:48] <white_eagle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589637 <--- follow the instructions from sdowney717
[16:48] <Trashlord> libncurses5
[16:48] <magnetron> white_eagle: desert_storm
[16:48] <white_eagle> lower from the page
[16:48] <Hammer89> white_eagle: thanks
[16:48] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Hilikus is the cli way
[16:48] <Xbehave> Can virtualisation be used to crack a bios password
[16:49] <white_eagle> please let me know when he joins
[16:49] <graft> Trashlord: okay, so you installed libncurses5, and it said what?
[16:49] <white_eagle> or you give him that link
[16:49] <Hilikus> bazhang ill try that
[16:49] <white_eagle> Hammer89: got it?
[16:49] <Trashlord> I couldn't install it, I tried, but that required a further dependency lib, called libc6
[16:49] <graft> Trashlord: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[16:49] <Trashlord> It said I need a higher version than the one that is going to be installed, and therefore it refused to install
[16:49] <Hammer89> white_eagle: yup... thanks
[16:49] <white_eagle> direct rendering + compiz-fusion works PERFECT
[16:49] <Trashlord> Alright, one minute
[16:50] <uplink> how i get autologin for gdm? (my live-cd enter on gdm but no have password)
[16:50] <white_eagle> and I have a crappy chipset -> ati 200m series
[16:50] <kharloss> i understand now why windoze has so many crazy ppl users .
[16:50] <kharloss> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk&feature=related
[16:50] <white_eagle> but it works
[16:50] <kharloss> :)
[16:50] <bazhang> offtopic kharloss
[16:51] <Trashlord> graft, http://pastebin.com/d1224fcef
[16:51] <xerxes1358> Why does kubuntu keeps asking for my DVD when I want to install software ?
[16:52] <bazhang> xerxes1358: you need to disable it in synaptic or adept as a source
[16:52] <xerxes1358> bazhang: where do I do that ?
[16:52] <TrustNoOne> kharloss, is that a real commercial? if so, its uber old
[16:53] <xerxes1358> bazhang: got it
[16:53] <xerxes1358> This KDE environment is raising my stress levels skyhigh
[16:54] <graft> Trashlord: so what happened next? it wouldn't install libc6, then what?
[16:54] <Trashlord> And then, the orange icon appear at the top bar
[16:54] <Trashlord> So, I thought there were some updates needed to be installed, I clicked on it, and it told me "Software index is broken" impossible to install or remove software, please type apt-get -f install first
[16:55] <graft> Xbehave: how can you crack a bios password with virtualization? If there's a bios password, it gets checked before the computer even boots
[16:55] <Trashlord> Do you want me to pastebin you what happens when I apt-get -f install, graft?
[16:56] <genii> Xbehave: Read your motherboard manual for how to reset cmos
[16:56] <Xbehave> graft: i set a supervisor password stupidly hard, i have complete access to the system the bios password only stops me changing sesions
[16:56] <LimCore> when will ubuntu allow to play vidoe?
[16:56] <LimCore> when will ubuntu allow to play video even
[16:56] <usr13> LimCore: When you install necessary software.
[16:56] <Trashlord> LimCore, video files, or games?
[16:56] <brobostigon> LimCore: ubuntu does play video
[16:56] <Slart> LimCore: it has done that for me since the last 7 months
[16:57] <freewilly> hehe
[16:57] <bazhang> what video limcore--try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:57] <Xbehave> genii: its  a laptop so id rather not take it apart
[16:57] <LimCore> well it plays them, but all 3 players are buggy
[16:57] <freewilly> you can do anything, just read the fora & wikis
[16:57] <usr13> LimCore: How so?
[16:57] <LimCore> vlc - broken arrow keys seeking
[16:57] <LimCore> mplayer - crashes
[16:57] <Slart> vlc works fine for me
[16:58] <usr13> I've used mplayer gxine vlc and they all preform quite well for me.
[16:58] <Thirsteh> LimCore, 'broken'? VLC doesn't seek with <left> and <right> by default, but shift+<left> shift+<right>
[16:58] <brobostigon> vlc works beautiful for me too
[16:58] <julle> To share a directory to a windows network, is there anything more, except from rightclick on a folder and choose Share Folder ?
[16:58] <Thirsteh> shift, ctrl and alt for different kinds of seeks
[16:58] <LimCore> Trashlord: this doesnt work
[16:58] <freewilly> vlc/mplayer, both champs
[16:58] <usr13> LimCore: is a troll....
[16:58] <bazhang> limcore video works flawlessly here
[16:58] <LimCore> Trashlord: was working, now stoped
[16:58] <usser> julle not really no
[16:58] <LimCore> usr13: you are an idiot
[16:58] <LimCore> bazhang: 10 people onfirmed this bug
[16:59] <usr13> LimCore: You are a troll.  L:)
[16:59] <bazhang> !attitude | limcore
[16:59] <ubotu> limcore: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:59] <genii> Xbehave: upgrade the cmos by bootable floppy or cd. Doesn't matter if same version you currenly have. That normally resets all defaults
[16:59] <freewilly> the real question is:
[16:59] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/2772
[16:59] <julle> usser: because i can't find it on the windows network..
[16:59] <freewilly> can i get my xfi working
[16:59] <Thirsteh> freewilly, with OSS4 yes
[16:59] <usr13> LimCore: If you have questions or need help, let us know, we will be glad to help you.
[16:59] <freewilly> does it work yes?
[16:59] <LimCore> usr13: yes all 10 people that confirmed this bug are trolls
[16:59] <usser> !windows | julle
[17:00] <ubotu> julle: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[17:00] <Thirsteh> freewilly, I'm using an X-Fi Platinum with OSS4 right now
[17:00] <graft> Trashlord: sure, pastebin it
[17:00] <usr13> LimCore: But keep hour stupid comments to yourself.
[17:00] <Thirsteh> freewilly, no ALSA support yet though
[17:00] <LimCore> usr13: question is simple, how to have this keys working
[17:00] <freewilly> and? good sound?
[17:00] <Trashlord> Alright, one minute, graft
[17:00] <LimCore> usr13: "you are a troll" is a stupid comment, so please behave
[17:00] <Xbehave> genii thats what i locked down in the bios is it possible to do it from a bootable iso from grub or is there a reason that wont work
[17:00] <usser> julle i dont know much about windows but did u run network setup wizard
[17:00] <freewilly> i tried to install oss4, but it segfaulkts
[17:00] <LimCore> Trashlord: you do not experience bug reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/2772 ?
[17:00] <freewilly> installs ok
[17:01] <xerxes1358> I have to enable Meta City also during startup (when GDM/KDM loads) because everything is misformed and fonts and letters look all huge.
[17:01] <usr13> LimCore: When you have an intelligent question, let us know.
[17:01] <joeamined> please please help me with mouseemu :(
[17:01] <Thirsteh> freewilly, runs fine for me, there are some guides on 4fronttech's forums
[17:01] <Trashlord> graft, http://pastebin.com/d7e4de118
[17:01] <Thirsteh> and the sound is pretty good yes
[17:01] <LimCore> usr13: is there any bug free media player in ubuntu?
[17:01] <freewilly> ok thirsteh, i tried it -)
[17:01] <Thirsteh> it doesn't have the 24-bit crystallizer from windows though
[17:02] <freewilly> nooo..no crystalizer -)
[17:02] <Slart> shift+arrow keys works nicely here.. just arrowkeys does nothing
[17:02] <Thirsteh> I miss it sometimes but it's not bad, it's good sound and it's Linux, so :>
[17:02]  * LimCore checks
[17:02] <brobostigon> LimCore: no piece of software is entirly bug free
[17:02] <bazhang> limcore they are all fine what did you do to your system to get video working? added any suspect repos?
[17:02] <artti> I installed xubuntu, how i uninstall ubuntu desktop?
[17:02] <TrustNoOne> I LOVE UBUNTU
[17:02] <TrustNoOne> but not as much as vista
[17:02] <LimCore> Thirsteh: correct
[17:02] <graft> Trashlord: so, what did you do to get into this situation?
[17:02] <freewilly> hehe
[17:02] <LimCore> brobostigon: "without known bugs" is also good
[17:03] <artti> Or how i like activate xubuntu?
[17:03] <usr13> artti: What hardware do you have?
[17:03] <Trashlord> All I did was try to install libncurses5, then libc6
[17:03] <LimCore> bazhang: no, they have open, confirmed, bugs
[17:03] <graft> Trashlord: yeah, but both failed
[17:03] <bazhang> limcore would you mind pastebinning your sources list?
[17:03] <Trashlord> Should I remove the first few packages it states there?
[17:03] <LimCore> bazhang: I use 0.8.6 Janus, the same as other people who reported bug in VLC
[17:03] <Trashlord> Before when it says "use autoremove to remove them"
[17:03] <hw00djohn> TrustNoOne: Ubuntu kills vista
[17:03] <Trashlord> Could that possibly fix them?
[17:03] <graft> Trashlord: nah that's not important
[17:03] <Slart> LimCore: if you only want bugfree apps I don't really know what you can run.. ubuntu is definately out of the question..
[17:04] <LimCore> Slart: this is unfortunate
[17:04] <bazhang> limcore what about pasting your sources list?
[17:04] <Trashlord> Maybe I need to download a .deb of each of these libraries, and dpkg -i both of them, could that help?
[17:04] <LimCore> bazhang: what purpose may that serve? I use regular 7.10 amd64
[17:04] <genii> Xbehave: I have previously ran the afudos.exe firmware upgrade utility from Asus underneath Wine, but I wouldn't recommend it. As for booting an iso from Grub, I do not think it is directly possible. Although if you have a partition with cd contents it can boot to that.
[17:04] <brobostigon> Slart: no piece of software is entirly bug free, bug free is a dream
[17:05] <bazhang> limcore how did you get video support working?
[17:05] <Thirsteh> LimCore, if you have a problem with a particular application, describe your problem *in detail* and we'll help you solve it.
[17:05] <graft> Trashlord: that's a bad idea... you're just going to bork up dependencies even more that way
[17:05] <artti> usr13, 256 ram, 500 mhz, 8gb hdd
[17:05] <LimCore> bazhang: mplayer, kaffeine and other apps installed
[17:05] <freewilly> if you have the right tuned setup in linux, you will notice how slow windows is
[17:05] <usr13> artti: Stick with xubuntu
[17:05] <LimCore> brobostigon: but ubuntu seem to have notificbly more bugs then typical windows software
[17:05] <usr13> artti: Just add apps as needed.
[17:05] <bazhang> indeed limcore--describe with precision instead of just saying its broken--what packages and what methods did you use to install video support
[17:06] <graball> freewilly - most truthful observation indeed...
[17:06] <freewilly> hehe
[17:06] <Thirsteh> LimCore, hahahahahahahahaha :)
[17:06] <Xbehave> genii: thx but theres no technical reason that grub->something->CD/floppy wont work i have smb installed to boot from cds
[17:06] <LimCore> bazhang: I am experiencing the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/2772
[17:06] <artti> urs13, i like to do that, but i'm in like ubuntu and xubuntu together
[17:06] <bazhang> limcore please answer my question first
[17:06] <Trashlord> What do you suggest then, graft? Complete reinstall? :\
[17:06] <LimCore> Thirsteh: I can daily find 2-3 bugs in ubuntu distro
[17:06] <brobostigon> LimCore: i found many more problems with windows software than i have ever had with ubuntu, my experience is different, sorry
[17:06] <graft> Trashlord: can you pastebin sudo dpkg -l?
[17:06]  * aubade rolls for a troll.
[17:06] <artti> usr13, what lsb_release -a should show? Xubuntu?
[17:07]  * LimCore rools for a zealot
[17:07] <genii> Xbehave: If you have a couple Mb free partition wise, just make a bootable fat partition, use some floppy image from bootdisk.com or so and copy the firmware stuff to that
[17:07] <Trashlord> I haven't tried to sudo dpkg -i
[17:07] <bazhang> limcore still waiting on your answer
[17:07] <Thirsteh> LimCore, and? The only time you're going to hear about a Windows bug is when some critical security flaw is found. Ubuntu bugs are anything from security vulnerabilities to TYPOS
[17:07] <geminidomino> Has anyone had any luck installing ubuntu onto a drive connected to a 3ware 9550 SX raid controller? According to 3ware's site, Ubuntu 6.06 should have built-in support, but when I try to install 6.06 Server LTS, it just hangs when it tries to read the drives. Suggestions?
[17:07] <usr13> artti: You have access to just as many applications, the only difference is that you have a less resource hungry implementation, and that is a good thing.
[17:07] <Xbehave> ok i think i can do that thx
[17:07] <Trashlord> Oh, graft, I got it, one minute I'll pastebin it
[17:07] <LimCore> Thirsteh: well, open office works on windows, and doesnt on ubuntu 7.10 amd 64
[17:07] <Slart> LimCore: this isn't really the place to discuss ubuntu's amount of bugs.. it's a support channel.. there are other channels for general discussion..
[17:07] <Slart> !ot
[17:08] <genii> Work, AFK
[17:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:08] <artti> usr13, nope it's still slow.
[17:08] <Thirsteh> LimCore, that's you generalizing, but in reality very few people have the problems you're describing. maybe you should consider reinstalling
[17:08] <usser>  LimCore what are u talking about OOffice works perfectly well in 7.10
[17:08] <bazhang> limcore if you want help answer my question, otherwise head to offtopic or ##windows
[17:08] <brobostigon> i use gutsy powerpc and openoffice runs fine for me,
[17:08] <usr13> artti: Install more memory.
[17:08] <LimCore> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56638/
[17:09] <Trashlord> graft, http://pastebin.com/d73157e2
[17:09] <dogpigeoncow> hey i have installed this game Liquid War 6 and it is not completing hte final 'make install'. further more wwhen i run a check i get "liquidwar6: couldn't find backend gfx/gl in /usr/local/lib/liquidwar6-0.0.3beta/gfx/libmod_gl-0.0.3beta.so
[17:09] <dogpigeoncow> liquidwar6: WARNING! (errno=2:ENOENT) unable to open gfx backend "gl"
[17:09] <dogpigeoncow> wat should i do?
[17:09] <artti> usr13, and in menu there are mixed xubuntu and ubuntu applications.
[17:09] <graball> Still no takers on my USB mousey problem?
[17:09] <LimCore> Thirsteh: the bug I described now, if confirmed by many people isn't it?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/2772
[17:09] <MasterShrek> dogpigeoncow, make sure you install the -dev packages of the dependencies
[17:09] <Trashlord> graft, That's not even all, I pasted from as far up as I could
[17:09] <brobostigon> graball: refresh my memory
[17:10] <LimCore> anyone have here openoffice - oowriter working on ubuntu 7.10 amd64 ?
[17:10] <Slart> I do
[17:10] <LimCore> Slart: ok can you then comment on my bug report,
[17:10] <usser> LimCore yes
[17:10] <LimCore> reports
[17:10] <graft> Trashlord: pastebin dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[17:10] <artti> usr13, i have synaptic and appfinder, i think there should be only appfinder.
[17:10] <Slart> LimCore: got a link to the bug report?
[17:11] <LimCore> 1) openoffice fails: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/179230
[17:11] <swirv> What package provides libhttpd.so.0 for ubuntu 7.10?
[17:11] <LimCore> 2) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org-amd64/+bug/190680
[17:11] <graball> brobostigan: Mouse freezes on Boot in Feisty - 100%. Unplug and replug makes it work, though - but it's annoying even though the OS is up and running close to 24/7:-).
[17:11] <usser> swirv probably apache2
[17:11] <hw00djohn> hey, i need help with compressed files...my buddy just sent me a .rar and it's telling me it's not a supported file type
[17:12] <swirv> hmm... I have apache2 installed.  weird.
[17:12] <djr_> hw00djohn: unrar or unrar-free
[17:12] <geminidomino> hw00djohn: It's not supported by default. apt-get install rar for the cli version
[17:13] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: unrar should do it
[17:13] <Trashlord> graft, http://pastebin.com/d4658971f
[17:13] <brobostigon> graball: no idea, sorry, however with my usb wifi adaptor i have to do the same before it gets recognized, but i use gutsy
[17:13] <usr13> hw00djohn: sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:13] <LimCore> btw, when would ubuntu support fonts?
[17:13] <LimCore> fonts are broken: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/179157
[17:13] <bazhang> !info unrar-nonfree
[17:13] <ubotu> Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in gutsy
[17:14] <LimCore> !info unrar
[17:14] <ubotu> unrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1.1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 232 kB
[17:14] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys, thanks...once these danged updates are done, it'll be on here
[17:14] <graft> Trashlord: um, how did you try and install libncurses5?
[17:14] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: I've still not had any luck.
[17:14] <LimCore> what font do you use?
[17:14] <Trashlord> apt-get install libncurses5
[17:15] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: sorry - i have no idea what more you can try
[17:15] <bazhang> limcore honestly if you dislike ubuntu so much why use it--seems you dont want help so much as to point out flaws and not seek solutions
[17:15] <leeping2009> LjL, you here?
[17:15] <bsdnewb07> how long does mysql take to install via apt-get
[17:15] <bsdnewb07> its been going for about 8 mins now
[17:15] <LimCore> bazhang: I already reported the bugs nicelly
[17:15] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: seems you're definitely not alone with that problem. i wonder what you and the other people have in common
[17:15] <usr13> PLEASE ignore LimCore, he is a troll, he is only here to disrupt the channel.
[17:15] <TrapperDave> prince_jammys: Okay, thank you for your time.
[17:15] <bazhang> LimCore: but the way you are behaving here is far from nice
[17:15] <graball> brobostigon: - methinks we're both waiting for a kernel that has a decent look at USB on boot for out particular setups... ah well.
[17:16] <LimCore> bazhang: what, pasting urls to bug tracker is not nice?
[17:16] <Thirsteh> LimCore, "When will ubuntu support fonts?"
[17:16] <graft> Trashlord: are you sure? the version you have partially installed is NOT the one in the repository
[17:16] <Thirsteh> what kind of question is that
[17:16] <LimCore> ok, what font is there that works fully?
[17:16] <graft> Trashlord: you sure you didn't download a deb from somewhere else?
[17:16] <Thirsteh> stop trolling or ask for help with a specific problem
[17:16] <freewilly> lol
[17:16] <bazhang> limcore trying to get help is the normal way of doing business around here--not saying this or that is broken
[17:16] <LimCore> Thirsteh: how to get a fully working font that  1) is rendering correctly (not gray)   2) includes common latin characters  - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/179157
[17:16] <darkstar002> hi
[17:17] <Trashlord> Hm, I've checked my desktop, and yes, I do have a .deb of libncruses5, graft
[17:17] <geminidomino> Any suggestions on my RAID issue?
[17:17] <graft> Trashlord: well, therein lies your problem.
[17:17] <darkstar002> i've a question
[17:17] <Trashlord> How do I remove it? dpkg -r?
[17:17] <bazhang> ask away darkstar002
[17:17] <graft> Trashlord: maybe. try installing the proper one instead with dpkg -i
[17:17] <artti> How to see installed packages via terminal?
[17:17] <darkstar002> does anybody have some experience with awstats and multiple vhosts
[17:17] <graft> Trashlord: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/libncurses5*
[17:17] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: from what i gathered in the internet, apparent solutions have to do with:  the .kde/blahblah/amarok folder, some permissions issue since sudo does something different, and installing those additional packages.  and you've done all those things
[17:17] <bazhang> dpkg -l artti
[17:17] <LimCore> what desktop font would you recommend
[17:17] <graft> Trashlord: the proper repository version ought to be there
[17:18] <brobostigon> artti: try apt-get
[17:18] <Thirsteh> LimCore, Gnome uses Sans
[17:18] <prince_jammys> TrapperDave: have you tried just reinstalling amarok?
[17:18] <artti> Thanks bazhang.
[17:18] <freewilly> for good fonts, set dpi somewhat high
[17:18] <bazhang> np
[17:18] <Trashlord> graft, ls: /var/cache/apt/archives/libncurses5*: No such file or directory
[17:18] <Thirsteh> And if you're missing certain characters, it's not necessarily because of the font, but because you didn't correctly state your localization information during installation
[17:19] <Slart> LimCore: I can confirm the bug on Gutsy, 64 bit.. same behavious as the example
[17:19] <Trashlord> Should I look it up on the ubuntu website, graft?
[17:19] <graft> Trashlord: oi. okay, download it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/base/libncurses5
[17:19] <darkstar002> nobody?
[17:20] <AppleHein> okay. i did the remap of my mouse. it works now with scrollwheel. thanks for the "remap" hint
[17:20] <AppleHein> found it on internet
[17:20] <AppleHein> then
[17:20] <bazhang> darkstar002: multiple vhosts? as in virtualized hosts?
[17:20] <_elemental> darkstar002 have you checked the docs/faqs on awstat's site?
[17:21] <darkstar002> yes i've checked them
[17:21] <clocKwize> is there any way to hide the bar at the top? with applications places system on it
[17:21] <clocKwize> all i acn find is removing panels
[17:21] <_elemental> darkstar002, ok what's the issue?
[17:21] <Slart> clocKwize: isn't there an autohide option?
[17:21] <clocKwize> yes but i actually want it not running
[17:21] <darkstar002> i wan't to automate it
[17:21] <Trashlord> graft, thank you very much, you have solved my problem
[17:21] <clocKwize> i'm using awn and don't need it
[17:21] <Slart> clocKwize: delete it?
[17:22] <_elemental> automate what exactly?
[17:22] <Owner> how can I change default shell bash to csh in Ubuntu for all users ?
[17:22] <graft> Trashlord: no probs... let that be a lesson to you about installing debs from strange places!
[17:22] <clocKwize> no not delete it, i just don't want it to run
[17:22] <leeping2009> Heh, I spent like 5 days trying to netboot a live CD, and .. I ended up not using it ! =D
[17:22] <Trashlord> I sure have learned my lesson
[17:22] <Slart> clocKwize: hide it?
[17:22] <LimCore> Slart: see? broken :-/
[17:22] <ricard1> hello, someone know which is the ubuntu's spanish channel?
[17:22] <LimCore> Thirsteh: Sans is not a font
[17:22] <Slart> LimCore: works nicely for me. I don't use fields that much
[17:22] <graft> Trashlord: btw, you probably originally wanted libncurses5-dev, which you can intsall from the repository
[17:22] <Slart> !es
[17:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:22] <Trashlord> graft, I guess the other .deb was meant for Debian particularly, not ubuntu
[17:23] <_elemental> darkstar002, automate what exactly?
[17:23] <LimCore> Slart: its show stopper for me :/
[17:23] <Trashlord> Since I downloaded it from the Debian website
[17:23] <ricard1> gracias :)
[17:23] <Patient-Zero> ?
[17:23] <bazhang> prego
[17:23] <harushimo> I have a quick question
[17:23] <usr13> LimCore: You should try 32bit
[17:23] <bloodniece> I need some help setting xorg for twinview, gnome will not start after setting it up. twinview noob alert. . . .
[17:23] <Thirsteh> LimCore, right....
[17:23] <graft> Trashlord: right... it'll probably make its way into ubuntu eventually, but for now it's a bit ahead of the curve
[17:23] <swirv> Anyone used wifidog ?
[17:23] <darkstar002> i'm programming a kind of cpanel, but by my own, so i've i make a new domain there also need to be a analyse log file
[17:24] <zackie> Is anybody else having a lot of problems with ubuntu crashing alot? Lately??
[17:24] <LimCore> Thirsteh: Sans is not a font, its a general name that maps to actuall font like "Bitstream Sans"
[17:24] <LjL> leeping2009: kind of
[17:24] <hw00djohn> hey prince_jammys: i jusy tried sudo apt-get install unrar and it said "E: Invalid operation install"
[17:24] <emperorcezar> I'm having an issue in firefox. Some flash applets start, then disappear after a few seconds. I've found mention of this in the forums, but no solutions. I've tried reinstalling both firefox and flash.
[17:24] <Thirsteh> LimCore, thank you for that information
[17:24] <leeping2009> LjL: I've successfully cloned 12 systems now.  Thanks again for the help yesterday :)
[17:24] <_elemental> darkstar002, still not sure what you want to automate
[17:24] <bloodniece> !twinview
[17:24] <zackie> It Take 3 Tries to Open up Pidgin and about 3 hours of use Computer just drops dead for no reason
[17:24] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[17:24] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: it would help if i spelled install correctly.  :D
[17:24] <LjL> leeping2009: by changing the kernel?
[17:25] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: i was going to say
[17:25] <darkstar002> if you generate the awstats you always need to give the domainname with it
[17:25] <Slart> emperorcezar: I've seen that too.. I tried running those flash applets in the adobe standalone player.. the player crashed
[17:25] <bloodniece> !dualhead
[17:25] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:25] <LimCore> Thirsteh: by default Sans maps to Bitstream sans which incorrectly display common European/Latin glyphs.  Dejavu Sans is corrected in this respect, but the font is very thin/gray :(  Can you recommend a solution?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/179157
[17:25] <darkstar002> but that's impossible because i don't know it, if people add a new domain..
[17:25] <harushimo> I'm getting a 500gb SATA drive will ubuntu detect that drive immediately once its installed
[17:25] <emperorcezar> Slart: It didn't consern me until it started doing it with some youtube embeded videos recently.
[17:25] <usser> harushimo yes u should have no problem with it
[17:26] <usser> harsh
[17:26] <Griz> Hey Gang. Which dpkg/apt-get command do I use to find out what files were installed by {package}?  (e.g. nictools-pci)
[17:26] <harushimo> i'm just checking. thanks I appreciate
[17:26] <Patient-Zero> de quoi ?
[17:26] <leeping2009> LjL: Yep, that's all I had to do .. I started from a clean install from the Gutsy live CD and I updated the kernel to Hardy from a usb drive; I had to update a few other things because of altered dependencies like libc6-dev and libc6
[17:26] <usser> harushimo might have to add it to /etc/fstab and format it but other than that
[17:26] <Slart> emperorcezar: I think someone at adobe had a bad day coding the latest version.. never saw that happen with the version before the current one
[17:26] <LjL> Griz: dpkg -S nictools-pci
[17:26] <Patient-Zero> je parle pas très bien l'anglais moi :(
[17:26] <bazhang> dpkg -l griz
[17:26] <harushimo> okay thats what i figure
[17:26] <_elemental> darkstar002, are you using apache2, which vhost method(Named or IP)?
[17:26] <Slart> !fr | Patient-Zero
[17:26] <Thirsteh> LimCore, again, localization is very thorough. I seriously doubt common German and Czech characters 'don't work' when there's support for languages that aren't even anymore
[17:26] <ubotu> Patient-Zero: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:27] <harushimo> does anyone know how to format an usb hard drive
[17:27] <darkstar002> named
[17:27] <LjL> leeping2009: err... you upgraded lib6 to the Hardy version? and things still work?
[17:27] <Thirsteh> LimCore, spoken anymore*
[17:27] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: okay, i just tried to install unrar and it ran into an error about openoffice.org not being configured... any ideas?  "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[17:27] <Slart> harushimo: the same way you format any drive? or no?
[17:27] <Griz> LjL, Thank You. That was what I was after!
[17:27] <bazhang> oops my bad griz please ignore
[17:27] <brobostigon> harushimo: gparted
[17:27] <harushimo> Slart: thats what I thought
[17:27] <Griz> bazhang, Nice Try and the thought is appreciated. :-)
[17:27] <Trashlord> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk&feature=related
[17:27] <harushimo> gparted is partitioner
[17:27] <leeping2009> LjL: I installed the systemimager client and things still work.  Should I expect more problems down the line? =P
[17:27] <LimCore> Thirsteh: yes, ubuntu just fails to display european characters, as reproted and confirmed by many people on bug tracker - just see:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera/+bug/11180
[17:27] <Slart> gparted can format partitions too
[17:27] <emperorcezar> Slart: Maybe I can downgrade
[17:27] <harushimo> I need to format. gparted doesn't have format option
[17:27] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: what was the command you typed before that error came up?
[17:27] <brobostigon> harushimo: gparted can format too
[17:28] <Griz> the sad thing is, it just installed a changelog and nada more. :-(
[17:28] <_elemental> darkstar002, my suggestion would be to write a small shell script to parse the httpd-vhost.conf file and get the assorted hosts, then execute awstats for each host
[17:28] <leeping2009> LjL: The Hardy version of libc6 was a dependency for compiling the Hardy kernel
[17:28] <Slart> harushimo: try right clicking on a partition.. I get options for formatting
[17:28] <Thirsteh> LimCore, whatever, help yourself
[17:28] <_elemental> darkstar002, you can then cron that and get daily/hourly/etc updates automated
[17:28] <LimCore> Thirsteh: thanks for help and good attitute
[17:28] <LjL> leeping2009: possibly. a mismatching libc6 is generally bound to give problems... although i don't know how big a bump it is from the Gutsy to the Hardy libc6. if your programs still run, it's probably not particularly big ;)
[17:28] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: you were unraring a word document?
[17:29] <AppleHein> apache delivers a complete how to online for configuring vhosts
[17:29] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys:  where do i go to paste large amounts of text?  maybe u can read it there.  also, i was unraring some sound files.
[17:29] <Slart> harushimo: you have to unmount the partition first.. otherwise it's just greyed out
[17:29] <harushimo> oh okay
[17:29] <prince_jammys> !paste | hw00djohn
[17:29] <darkstar002> ok i'll try that
[17:29] <ubotu> hw00djohn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:29] <darkstar002> thx!
[17:29] <LimCore> vhost by port are very simple in apache
[17:29] <id10t> 'lo all.. recently got a new machine, moved my ubuntu hd to it and everything works except sound... sound works fine on the new box with the live cd, how can i get the system to reconfigure the sound?
[17:29] <harushimo> thats probably the problem
[17:29] <_elemental> darkstar002, np good luck
[17:29] <darkstar002> or is there a better program then awstats?
[17:30] <leeping2009> LjL: It looks like quite a big bump: (2.6.1-1ubuntu9) up to (2.7-5ubuntu2)
[17:30] <Twinkletoes> Using 6.06 Desktop, I've just done some updates, and now when I try and start *certain* admin tools, it won't accept my password.  Some tools work, some don't.  The error is: "The entered password is invalid"
[17:30] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys:  heres the link. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56640/
[17:30] <harushimo> after unmounted the drive, how do I the format
[17:31] <id10t> darkstar002, have you tried analog? its what i use for web stats
[17:31] <scjp_> can  i install windows after installing ubuntu or i need to first install windows and then ubuntu
[17:31] <LjL> LimCore: the font you give in the attachment is not DejaVu Mono
[17:31] <thesus> hello -- i am trying to get xchat (or any irc client) working with my router
[17:31] <artti> Should i remove ubuntu packages? When i use xubuntu?
[17:31] <id10t> scjp_, windows first and hten ubuntu will set up the dual boot
[17:31] <harushimo> with gparted
[17:31] <bazhang> scjp_: both work though windows first is preferable
[17:31] <LimCore> LjL: the .pdf or the .png ?
[17:31] <darkstar002> oh i will check it out
[17:32] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: it seems that you had partial installation of openoffice that apt-get tried to complete, and all those errors are related to that
[17:32] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: unraring works fine, right?
[17:32] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: any idea on how to fix that?
[17:32] <LjL> LimCore: the .png, i don't know where to find the .pdf
[17:32] <LimCore> LjL: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11087173/thin_mono_font.png
[17:32] <thesus> i can connect if i set my firewall (router) to "low security", but otherwise can't connect. i have tried to forward udp and tcp to 6667, but that doesn't work
[17:32] <LimCore> LjL: ok let me recheck.
[17:33] <artti> Anything bad won't happen, when i remove ubuntu packages, when i use xubuntu?
[17:33] <leeping2009> !clone
[17:33] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[17:33] <bazhang> artti: how are you planning on removing them and what apps
[17:33] <LjL> LimCore: that font has serifs, while as far as i'm aware, there is only a sans version of dejavu mono (although it still has some serifs but anyway)
[17:33] <thesus> Anyone: does irc use tcp or udp?
[17:33] <ogre> how do i make a program in my menu automatically run as root with arguements? the program in question is ettercap and I want to run as sudo ettercap -G
[17:34] <prince_jammys> how does one fix broken packages/package dependencies? hw00djohn is getting this error:: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/157958
[17:34] <Slart> thesus: tcp afaik
[17:34] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: scrap that
[17:34] <brobostigon> ogre: gksudo prog
[17:34] <LimCore> LjL: that bug was ment to represent lack of good monospace font
[17:34] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: unraring works now...will i encounter errors with openoffice now?
[17:34] <Thirsteh> ogre, prepend 'gksu' to the command
[17:34] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: pasted the wrong thing
[17:34] <thesus> anyone: does irc use tcp or udp?
[17:34] <Angel_Gr> Hi everyone...
[17:34] <ogre> thanks guys
[17:34] <artti> bazhang, there's ubuntu-artwork, ubuntu-standard
[17:34] <alevine> every time i restart my system, fsck fails with: Failed to open the device 'UUID=01445405-7654-45a7-bc23-d767bbfc0147': No such file or directory....anyone know what i can do?
[17:34] <Thirsteh> ogre, e.g. 'gksu ls /home'
[17:34] <xyblor> How do I force X to use the PreferredMode on one of my dual-head displays? (Radeon 8500, Ubuntu 7.10)
[17:34] <acee1234> what do i need to allow to get internet through guarddog?
[17:34] <Angel_Gr> I have a x86 64 bit Intel Pentium processor (3.00Ghz) and I would like to install xUbuntu 7.10. In the ubuntu download site I can find 2 versions. The first one is for a Standard personal computer (x86 architecture) and the other one is for 64 bit AMD (and Intel?). Which should I download?
[17:35] <id10t> alevine, that is a reference to a partition
[17:35] <LjL> LimCore: well, DejaVu Sans Mono works fine for me, although "good" is also a subjective matter.
[17:35] <ogre> im using emerald as window manager. whenever i minimize window it restarts X. how can i troubleshoot this?
[17:35] <Slart> thesus: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/rfc.html
[17:35] <prince_jammys> how does one fix broken packages/package dependencies? hw00djohn is getting this error:: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56640/
[17:35] <id10t> alevine, you should see it in /etc/fstab too, with a comment above it referencing the /dev/foo device entry
[17:35] <thesus> Slart -- thanks
[17:35] <ogre> Thirsteh:  i think i got it
[17:35] <bazhang> artti: and removing how?
[17:35] <vbabiy> ogre: what video card you using
[17:35] <alevine> id10t: yep, and it is working (it mounts fine), it just fails fsck
[17:35] <LjL> LimCore: also, DejaVu Sans seems to me to be the default font in KOffice
[17:35] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: most likely yes, there's something wrong there, it didnt install properly
[17:35] <Slart> alevine: changed something with your harddrives lately? removed one?
[17:35] <usser> Angel_Gr get x86 will save u a whole lot of trouble
[17:35] <artti> bazhang, apt-get remove ubunu-artworks
[17:36] <id10t> alevine, it should give you a better error as to why it failed
[17:36] <Trashlord> One more question graft, are you familier with XMMS?
[17:36] <Angel_Gr> thnx
[17:36] <bazhang> artti: no worries then
[17:36] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: you could try to remove it and reinstall it
[17:36] <ogre> vbabiy:  intel cheapie card. its worked for ages until yesterday
[17:36] <alevine> Slart: this started happening a long time ago when i upgraded to gutsy
[17:36] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I download the U.S. International keyboard layout?
[17:36] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: i think i'll remove and reinstall
[17:36] <artti> bazhang, alright then
[17:36] <LimCore> LjL: what font one should use for monospace?  The default is afair bitstream monospace with have broken glyphs.  And dejavu monospace have strange hinting/aliasing problem
[17:36] <alevine> id10t: any idea for what i can do/
[17:36] <csaba> Is there a screen capture tool which can also capture the mouse pointer?
[17:36] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: try it
[17:36] <Hammer89> !automate
[17:36] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[17:36] <Slart> alevine: check fstab for that uuid.. see what mountpoint it should be using
[17:36] <xyblor> Why isn't X using the preferred resolution reported by my monitor?
[17:37] <usser> csaba video or screenshot?
[17:37] <id10t> xyblor, not defined in your xorg.conf file?
[17:37] <Slart> alevine: fstab is a file in /etc.. you can look at it by using "cat /etc/fstab"
[17:37] <csaba> screenshot
[17:37] <bazhang> does recordmydesktop not do that csaba
[17:37] <alevine> Slart: everything in fstab is correct, it mounts fine. just fails when fscking on startup
[17:37] <harushimo> i figure it out
[17:37] <xerxes1358> Hello
[17:37] <alevine> Slart: it may have something to do with the fact it is reiserfs?
[17:37] <xyblor> id10t: defining it in xorg.conf doesn't help
[17:37] <thesus> o.k. so it looks like this rule might worK; Protocol:         TCP
[17:37] <thesus> Global Port(s):  6667
[17:37] <thesus> Base Host Port: 6667
[17:37] <Slart> alevine: does the mountpoint exist?
[17:37] <LjL> LimCore, the "default" in my Kubuntu installation, for most programs, is DejaVu Sans Mono. i say "default" because i'm not really sure it's default in *every* application. i haven't experienced hinting/aliasing problems with DejaVu Sans Monospace at all. are you using Full Hinting (if you're on KDE, it can be set from System Settings) like i am?
[17:38] <xyblor> id10t: it's the preferred mode to begin with, so why wouldn't X use it?
[17:38] <thesus> but it doesn't -- irc is still blocked
[17:38] <alevine> Slart: yes, I am using it
[17:38] <id10t> xyblor, maybe not right refresh rate, etc. so it fails over to next mode?
[17:38] <Slart> alevine: could you pastebin your fstab, toegether with the exact error message you get
[17:38] <alevine> Slart: sure, one moment. thanks for the help
[17:38] <xyblor> id10t: no, I can switch to the preferred mode with Xrandr no problem, even using --auto
[17:39] <iDN> Hello
[17:39] <xerxes1358> Guys when I try to watch a movie from an  external harddrive the screen looks Grey! I cant do anything with the screen anymore. What is going on?
[17:39] <id10t> xyblor, can you switch to that res. using the ctrl+alt and plus/minus keys?
[17:39] <iDN> I get this error message while trying to unrar a splited archive:
[17:39] <xyblor> id10t: X just doesn't want to start with that mode for some reason
[17:39] <xyblor> id10t: I'll try
[17:39] <iDN> "CRC failed"
[17:39] <thoma2> zalivaldi itt
[17:39] <bazhang> idn not too many lines paste to pastebin
[17:39] <Slart> iDN: broken rar..
[17:39] <alevine> Slart: http://pastebin.org/20254
[17:40] <thoma2> 8-)
[17:40] <thesus> ls
[17:40] <iDN> Slart: I'm sure it's fine. A friend of mine downloaded it and it worked fine.
[17:40] <iDN> That is, for him of course.
[17:40] <Slart> iDN: downloaded it from you? or from the same source?
[17:40] <emperorcezar> So I guess the real question is, how do I downgrade?
[17:40] <id10t> need some quick help... recently got a new machine, moved my ubuntu hd to it and everything works except sound... sound works fine on the new box with the live cd, how can i get the system to reconfigure the sound?
[17:40] <iDN> Slart: Same source.
[17:40] <bazhang> emperorcezar: for what reason?
[17:40] <Hammer89> iDN: have you tried opening a different rar?
[17:41] <theseus> all: nope -- tcp port forward to 6667 doesn't work -- i still can't irc unless i disable my firewall -- any thoughts?
[17:41] <thoma2> hello csaba
[17:41] <iDN> Hammer89: Usually part1.rar is the one, but I'll give it a try.
[17:41] <xyblor> id10t: a common problem seems to be ALSA using the wrong sound card, like the internal one
[17:41] <Slart> iDN: check the md5sum of the files using the command md5sum.. then make your friend do the same.. compare.. if different.. download again.. if same.. well.. scratch head.. come back on to irc =)
[17:41] <xerxes1358> Guys when I try to watch a movie from an  external harddrive the screen looks Grey! I cant do anything with the screen anymore. What is going on?
[17:42] <id10t> xyblor, this is the internal card... same basic chipset as the old one (intel 8x0) but old machine was a Dell GX270 and new box is a kick butt HP workstation
[17:42] <iDN> Slart: I'm pretty sure that WinRAR on windows will be able to unrar this file. :(
[17:42] <emperorcezar> bazhang: Flash is crashing. it's new version. I need to downgrade it to it's previous version, which I can't find anywhere.
[17:42] <bazhang> emperorcezar: many tabs open? which sites? myspace or other
[17:43] <xyblor> id10t: asoundconf might help
[17:43] <xyblor> id10t: does "asoundconf list" look right?
[17:43] <LjL> LimCore, the "default" in my Kubuntu installation, for most programs, is DejaVu Sans Mono. i say "default" because i'm not really sure it's default in *every* application. i haven't experienced hinting/aliasing problems with DejaVu Sans Monospace at all. are you using Full Hinting (if you're on KDE, it can be set from System Settings) like i am?
[17:43] <il-luzhin> ! foo
[17:43] <ubotu> bar
[17:43] <theseus> o.k. -- anyone know how to see what port i am connected to irc with??
[17:43] <mateusz> Hi
[17:43] <iDN> I cannot believe that! :( It's working when I'm unraring the last file. :(
[17:43] <kbase101> hello. i am trying to install xmms in ubuntu but i get this error as seen in my blog after installing. can anyone help me? http://blog-kbase101.notlong.com
[17:43] <id10t> xyblor, no cards found...
[17:43] <iDN> Ughh, actually, it's not. :(
[17:43] <emperorcezar> bazhang: youtube mainly. Some other I can't remember off the top of my head. Slart said he had noticed it.
[17:43] <LjL> theseus: netstat -l | grep irc
[17:43] <id10t> xyblor, think i'll just boot the live cd and see what modules are loaded
[17:43] <LjL> theseus: netstat -l -a | grep irc
[17:43] <alevine> Slart: you there?
[17:44] <xyblor> id10t: yeah, it must be serious...
[17:44] <Slart> alevine: looking at your pastebin.. one more thing I want you to check
[17:44] <alevine> Slart: sure
[17:44] <xyblor> id10t: maybe it's looking for a card in the wrong PCI slot?
[17:44] <LimCore> cool
[17:44] <LimCore> the bug about fonts seems to be fixed now
[17:44] <Slart> alevine: pastebin the output of "blkid"
[17:44] <fabi> hey i've got a problem my ubuntu mounts the ubuntu drive readonly how can i fix this?
[17:44] <theseus> LiL -- thanks!
[17:45] <bazhang> emperorcezar: this is gutsy or feisty? when did this start happening and how many tabs are open in firef0x? myspace regularly (nearly) brings down firefox for me
[17:45] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there a flash plugin for firefox 3 yet?
[17:45] <Slart> bazhang: I noticed some flash movies were dying.. I downloaded the adobe stand alone player and when I tried the flash in that it just crashed..
[17:45] <alevine> Slart: It matches :\, no idea why fsck fails.... http://pastebin.org/20256
[17:45] <theseus> Lil (or anyone) -- why do I have: stadion:60749 ?? doesn't irc connect to 6667
[17:46] <nabil> hey all
[17:46] <usser> Lunar_Lamp the current flash should work
[17:46] <kitche> theseus: irc can be on any port
[17:46] <nabil> anyone succesfull install ms 2003?
[17:46] <Lunar_Lamp> usser, hmm, well, it doesn't :-/
[17:46] <usser> Lunar_Lamp how did u install it?
[17:46] <theseus> this is the result of netstat: tcp        0      0 stadion:60749           kubrick.freenode.n:ircd ESTABLISHED -- kitche -- so do i need to tell my router to forward any port?
[17:46] <bazhang> aha Slart never used that standalone player
[17:46] <kitche> theseus: nope
[17:46] <usser> Lunar_Lamp just copy libflashplayer.so into your firefox plugins folder
[17:46] <theseus> i thought i connected with 6667
[17:46] <kitche> theseus: you did
[17:46] <Lunar_Lamp> usser, ah ok, that's what I haven't done! :-)
[17:47] <LjL> LimCore: this is how DejaVu 8 is rendered here on KOffice http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9685/dejavukofficeil8.png and OOo http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3508/dejavuoooyb0.png - i think i have Full Hinting enabled both in KDE and globally (or in OOo or whatever is relevant to OOo)
[17:47] <usser> Lunar_Lamp ie download flashplugin for linux from adobe unpack it
[17:47] <Slart> bazhang: neither do I, normally.. but I just had to try it here.. to see if it was firefox being annoying or if it indeed was adobes flash plugin
[17:47] <usser> Lunar_Lamp and just copy so file to your firefox3 folder theres gotta pluginsthere  somewhere
[17:47] <bazhang> that rotten adobe ;[
[17:47] <LimCore> LjL: I am testing now, and Bitstream seems to have been fixed... checking some more
[17:47] <theseus> kitche: so why am i now on 60749? more important, what rule should i give my router?
[17:47] <Grab> hey guys, sorry for the noob question: i just installed tinyproxy, but i dont find the way to start it: where should i look ?
[17:47] <Slart> alevine: can't find anything wrong.. what happens if you change the UUID to /dev/sdb1 ?
[17:47] <kitche> theseus: umm rule for what?
[17:48] <LjL> LimCore: i think there's usually no reason to use Bitstream anyway... since DejaVu is derived from it and improved
[17:48] <prince_jammys> Grab: is it a graphical app?
[17:48] <Grab> no
[17:48] <Grab> shell
[17:48] <emperorcezar> bazhang: like 10 tabs. I've found the number of tabs not to be an issue. It's certain videos. They kill flash once, then they die accross all tabs
[17:48] <Hammer89> kbase101: stop spamming
[17:48] <Slart> could we get a kick for kbase101 ?
[17:48] <theseus> kitche: i am trying to get irc to work with my westell router/dsl modem -- i tried to set up this rule: Protocol:         TCP
[17:48] <theseus> Global Port(s):  6667
[17:48] <theseus> Base Host Port: 6667 -- but it doesn't connect -- just hangs (right now my firewall  is disabled)
[17:48] <LjL> he got a ban automatically
[17:49] <bazhang> hehe spoke too soon
[17:49] <Twinkletoes> Using 6.06 Desktop, I've just done some updates, and now when I try and start *certain* admin tools, it won't accept my password.  Some tools work, some don't.  The error is: "The entered password is invalid"
[17:49] <LjL> and another wrong ban from me
[17:49] <norml_advocate> I just switched back to gde from kde and I lost my NM applet and my quick user switch.  How do I get them back?
[17:49] <kitche> theseus: you should not really have to forward any port for irc
[17:49] <prince_jammys> Grab have you tried typing "tinyproxy" or whatever the app is called?
[17:49] <kitche> LJL: yeha that is a very bad ban
[17:49] <xerxes1358> Guys something is wrong. With everything I do the screen gets Grey!! Someone knows what is going on here?
[17:49] <theseus> kitche: otherwise when i enable my router, irc will not connect
[17:49] <alevine> Slart: hmm, i think I did that a while ago and it worked but automatically changed back to UUID on boot
[17:49] <Yancho> Anyone can please point me to a guid (tried to google to no avail) to make a Partition plugged in to a Ubuntu Server (via USB2) writable via Windows XP Computers. The Partition is FAT32 file system
[17:49] <Grab> prince_jammys, tinyproxy: command not found
[17:50] <Slart> xerxes1358: apps go grey when the program isn't responding any more.. at least if you're using compiz I think
[17:50] <kitche> theseus: sounds like it's a junk router since you should not have to enable anything really for port forwarding unless it's not a router
[17:50] <Slart> alevine: changed it back automatically? that's weird..
[17:50] <xerxes1358> Slart, how do I find out if I have Compiz ?
[17:50] <norml_advocate> I just switched back to gde from kde and I lost my NM applet and my quick user switch.  How do I get them back?
[17:50] <usser> Yancho u need to look up samba
[17:50] <usser> !samba | Yancho
[17:50] <ubotu> Yancho: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[17:51] <Slart> xerxes1358: check in System, Preference, Appearance, visual effects.. anything other that none means you are running compiz
[17:51] <bazhang> xerxes1358: try alt f2 kwin --replace
[17:51] <prince_jammys> Grub:  check this out:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122011
[17:51] <kitche> theseus: myself I use a different router then what my modem is since modem's are not good for routers really
[17:51] <Yancho> thanks usser but is it a problem that i want to share a fat32 FROM linux ?
[17:51] <prince_jammys> Grab http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122011
[17:51] <xerxes1358> bazhang, it says normal.
[17:51] <LimCore> LjL: well, it all seems to be working better now
[17:51] <LimCore> perhaps ubuntu finally do support fonts
[17:51]  * LimCore upgrades bug reports
[17:51] <norml_advocate> not tryin to be impatient just wonderin if anyone is workin with me
[17:52] <usser> Yancho no problem at all should be fairly easy
[17:52] <theseus> kitche: it is a router/modem -- is there a way to restrict the firewall to permit incoming connections to a range of ports, and configure clients to use those ports? if so which ports does xchat use?
[17:52] <alevine> Slart: is it possible that fsck.reiserfs just doesnt support using UUIDs
[17:52] <Yancho> ok im reading usser :)
[17:52] <LimCore> LjL: what is the file/package that contains the fonts?
[17:52] <Slart> alevine: that might be one reason..
[17:53] <xubinux> i have new fonts...how can i install them??
[17:53] <kitche> theseus: umm you don't use incoming port forwarding it's outward connection
[17:53] <prince_jammys> !fonts | xubinux
[17:53] <ubotu> xubinux: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[17:53] <Slart> alevine: try replacing the uuid with a device name.. see if it really puts the uuids back
[17:53] <kitche> theseus: unless of course you run your own irc server
[17:53] <norml_advocate> I just switched back to gde from kde and I lost my NM applet and my quick user switch.  How do I get them back?
[17:53] <norml_advocate> I just switched back to gde from kde and I lost my NM applet and my quick user switch.  How do I get them back?
[17:53] <LjL> LimCore: should be ttf-dejavu, ttf-dejavu-core and ttf-dejavu-extra
[17:53] <xerxes1358> bazhang, Slart I set it on none but still the same problem.
[17:53] <Slart> !patience | norml_advocate
[17:53] <ubotu> norml_advocate: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:53] <alevine> Slart: OK, then I'll brb :)
[17:53] <xubinux> THX
[17:53] <Slart> xerxes1358: then I don't know why it goes grey..
[17:54] <Slart> !repeat | norml_advocate
[17:54] <ubotu> norml_advocate: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:54] <bullgard4> What is the Ubuntu program for hardware detection? Is it udevd?
[17:54] <artti> Dam, my computer freezed again.
[17:54] <hw00djohn> hey prince_jammys: whats the command to uninstall and then reinstall openoffice.org?
[17:54] <genii> bullgard4: yes
[17:54] <norml_advocate> ill just keep posting until someone who knows answers
[17:54] <white_eagle> did the link I sent helped to you bazhang ?
[17:54] <white_eagle> ;)
[17:54] <bullgard4> genii: hm
[17:54] <xerxes1358> hi nickrud
[17:55] <bazhang> thanks white_eagle!
[17:55] <nickrud> hey xerxes1358
[17:55] <Slart> norml_advocate: try to keep at least 5 minutes intervals between posting.. any shorter and people will just get annoyed
[17:55] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: in your case i would first do   sudo apt-get remove openoffice    , then same but with "install" -- the thing is suspect you might get errors. let us know
[17:55] <theseus> kitche: somehow my router/firewall blocks it -- what is the difference in "Global Port Range" vs. "Base Host Port" on a firewall application (or rule)
[17:55] <white_eagle> did you get it allright?
[17:55] <Eckos> this is going to take forever
[17:55] <Eckos> lol
[17:55] <Eckos> doing /sbin/badblocks -c 10240 -s -w -t random -v /dev/hda
[17:55] <norml_advocate> I just switched back to gde from kde and I lost my NM applet and my quick user switch.  How do I get them back?
[17:55] <kitche> theseus: no clue as I said I don't use my westell modem for a router since they are not good for that
[17:56] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: the name of the package seems to be "openoffice.org"
[17:56] <norml_advocate> how do I add NM applet and quick user switch to gde?
[17:56] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: okay, i was just going to ask about that
[17:56] <Eckos> doing ii hope to god i get this job, if I do that means i'm so close to get my laptop :D
[17:56] <prince_jammys> norml_advocate: right click on panel and "add to panel"
[17:57] <xerxes1358> I want to install VmWare. What do I download? The .RPM file or the .TAR file?
[17:57] <brobostigon> norml_advocate: right click to bat, add to panel
[17:57] <bullgard4> norml_advocate: Try to instruct '/usr/bin/nm-applet' in a Terminal.
[17:57] <norml_advocate> but thats "network manager"  i want NM manager
[17:57] <Slart> xerxes1358: the deb-file, if that doesn't exist.. get the tar
[17:57] <norml_advocate> there diff.
[17:57] <usser> xerxes1358 vmware-server should be in the repos u dont have to download
[17:57] <gatestone> Is it generally known that Nessus is broken and if you install it, its old Qt4 libraries break for example Skype, see http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=6df28279392359a43a5823162786ecac&act=ST&f=18&t=104954
[17:57] <theseus> kitche: fair enough, do you know how to close old irc connections netstat shows three connections open: i am also connected to Regina.SK.CA.Acces and anthony.freenode.n:ircd
[17:57] <usser> xerxes1358 unless u trying to install workstation or someting else then your choice is tar.gz
[17:58] <xerxes1358> Yes I need workstation
[17:58] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys got the same error "E: Sub-Process /usr/bik/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[17:58] <dannyboy305> how can i get my broadcom wireless card to work under 7.10 ?
[17:58] <DocWarstoner> Nabend
[17:58] <kitche> theseus: jsut close your client that are connected to it if it's the same client your on now just use /quit I believe in the server window
[17:58] <NET||abuse> anyone know of a decent wysiwyg app for the ubuntu desktop?
[17:58] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: ok let's see ... go to System->Administration->Synaptic
[17:58] <alevine> Slart: worked and /etc/fstab did not change back :)
[17:58] <xerxes1358> What is the expose function called in Linux
[17:59] <DocWarstoner> kann mir jemand sagen wie ich ein mount --bind in die fstab einbaue?
[17:59] <norml_advocate> does anyone know how to get NM applet, it is the default network manager that comes with ubuntu?
[17:59] <theseus> kitche: that is odd becuase this is the only client i have open
[17:59] <dannyboy305> how can i get my broadcom wireless card to work under 7.10 ?
[17:59] <ZeroA4> dannyboy305, i think that you need to install a package called bcm43xx-fwcutter
[17:59] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: did you install openoffice yourself?  because it comes with ubuntu
[17:59] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: im there
[17:59] <bullgard4> DocWarstoner: wrong channel
[17:59] <DocWarstoner> ???
[17:59] <DocWarstoner> why?
[17:59] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: openoffice updated itself earlier today
[17:59] <graft> xerxes1358: if you're running compiz-fusion, it's called 'scale'
[18:00] <bazhang> xerxes1358: scale
[18:00] <ZeroA4> NET||abuse, a wysiwyg what ? a wysiwyg word processor ? a wysiwyg HTML editor ?
[18:00] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: edit->fix broken packages
[18:00] <sinbox> the german question DocWarstoner
[18:00] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: what do you mean get it?  isn't it the default?
[18:00] <AppleHein_> hi reiner
[18:00] <dannyboy305> i heard about it but they say it will only work on the edgy version...will it work on 7.10 too?
[18:00] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: the process must have been interrupted  somehow, because it didnt fully install
[18:00] <AppleHein_> Ralph hier
[18:00] <nox-Hand> I am rather confused about this apt error: http://pastebin.ca/910001
[18:00] <DocWarstoner> is there a german ubuntu channel?
[18:00] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: okay, how do i fix it?
[18:00] <NET||abuse> ZeroA4, html editor i guess. i want to let someone else edit documents on a remote account from time to time, it's a html based project plan, so i wanted to have an app they can use to update some of the content html pages
[18:00] <reiner> hi ralph
[18:01] <AppleHein_> na, klappt doch gut
[18:01] <NET||abuse> ZeroA4, other than using a cms
[18:01] <AppleHein_> das hier ist der ubuntu kanal
[18:01] <norml_advocate> danbhfive  it was the default, but I installed kde, and then switch back to gde.  and now its gone, and so is my quick user switch
[18:01] <ZeroA4> dannyboy305, i guess so... try it
[18:01] <AppleHein_> hat mir eben gehelft
[18:01] <AppleHein_> :)
[18:01] <dannyboy305> ok i will
[18:01] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: try Edit->Fix Broken Packages
[18:01] <xerxes1358> graft, bazhang thanks again
[18:01] <sinbox> NET||abuse, Kompozer
[18:01] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: from synaptic
[18:01] <DocWarstoner> wieso binn ich dann mit meiner frage imfalschen channel?
[18:01] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: try this: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[18:01] <ZeroA4> NET||abuse, Have you tried KompoZer ?
[18:01] <bullgard4> DocWarstoner: This is an English speaking channel.
[18:01] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys: after .5 seconds it says it fixed them, how do i check if theyre fixed?
[18:01] <prince_jammys> !de | DocWarstoner
[18:01] <ubotu> DocWarstoner: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:01] <NET||abuse> sinbox, ZeroA4 ok, Kompozer, i'll try it, thanks
[18:02] <xerxes1358> Which button is assigned to Scale anyway
[18:02] <prince_jammys> if that's german, lol
[18:02] <luke_skywalker> hello i removed compiz from ubuntu and now i don't have window borders unless i run from terminal metacity.
[18:02] <DocWarstoner> ahh THX!
[18:02] <reiner> sehr schön
[18:02] <luke_skywalker> how i make it default???
[18:02] <AppleHein_> hast gelesen: #ubuntu-de gibts für deutsche
[18:02] <white_eagle> luke_skywalker: thats emerald
[18:02] <danbhfive> xerxes1358: hey there, how did things turn out for you?
[18:02] <white_eagle> not metacity's fault
[18:02] <xerxes1358> danbhfive, hi man
[18:02] <norml_advocate> danbhfive just did that and there were 0 removed and 0 installed
[18:02] <white_eagle> remove emerald luke_skywalker
[18:02] <white_eagle> and all will be fixed
[18:02] <xerxes1358> danbhfive, sweet man. I got Gnome running again. I am happy again.
[18:02] <ozzloy> how do i make it so when i resume from suspend i don't have to sign in
[18:02] <ozzloy> ?
[18:03] <white_eagle> ozzloy: wait
[18:03] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: did you put the ^ ?
[18:03] <norml_advocate> no
[18:03] <Eckos> how do i get cryptsetup-luks?
[18:03] <xerxes1358> danbhfive, KDE was raising my stress levels. I find Gnome more intuitive. I have to install VmWare, XP and Office 2007 and I can start working on my assignments.
[18:03] <xerxes1358> danbhfive, I also have to figure out why Pidgin cannot connect to MSN
[18:03] <white_eagle> xerxes1358: ???
[18:03] <sdsheeks> xerxes1358: why not use crossover?
[18:03] <prince_jammys> ozzloy: go to Preferences->Screensaver and make sure "lock" is unchecked
[18:04] <NET||abuse> will Kompozer run ok on gnome?
[18:04] <DocWarstoner> cu all
[18:04] <white_eagle> xerxes1358: try emesene
[18:04] <white_eagle> its a special prog
[18:04] <Eckos> sdsheeks: crossover is commerical
[18:04] <white_eagle> for connecting to msn
[18:04] <jumbers> Is there a way for Ubuntu to pre-generate thumbnails for all of my pictures so that I don't have to wait a while the first time I open a folder with pictures?
[18:04] <white_eagle> xp is commercial too
[18:04] <danbhfive> xerxes1358: I'm glad you at least have things up and running
[18:04] <xerxes1358> sdsheeks, Does crossover support Office 2007 ??
[18:04] <sdsheeks> Eckos: so is office and windows xp
[18:04] <white_eagle> no
[18:04] <Eckos> yeah but most people have xp
[18:04] <xerxes1358> danbhfive, yeah :)
[18:04] <Twinkletoes>  /etc/group and /etc/gshadow are out of sync... can I correct this somehow?
[18:04] <white_eagle> xerxes1358: no
[18:04] <ozzloy> prince_jammys: yeah, it's not checked
[18:04] <white_eagle> they don't support ms 2007
[18:05] <Daenyth|Work> I'm trying to install support for armenian, and it's not going very well
[18:05] <graft> jumbers: definitely in kde/konqueror you can do that
[18:05] <white_eagle> why do you need offic 2007?
[18:05] <sinbox> NET||abuse,  it does run fine here
[18:05] <sdsheeks> xerxes1358: i know it supports 2003 but not sure about 2007.  You could always try.
[18:05] <white_eagle> sdsheeks: no
[18:05] <white_eagle> It doesn't support
[18:05] <white_eagle> it
[18:05] <NET||abuse> sinbox, ok, thanks, i'll know now if it works.
[18:05] <Daenyth|Work> I installed the armenian language pack, but I have no fonts for OOo
[18:05] <Daenyth|Work> armenian ones, I mean
[18:05] <sdsheeks> white_eagle: doesn't support or doesn't work?  Two different things.
[18:05] <white_eagle> doesn't work
[18:05] <jumbers> graft: I run Gnome though. You don't know of a way with Gnome?
[18:05] <xerxes1358> sdsheeks, as far as I recall it has not supprt for .net platform.
[18:05] <sdsheeks> white_eagle: ah okay thanks. :)
[18:05] <Eckos> can anyone help me with this?
[18:05] <Eckos> Package cryptsetup-luks is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:05] <Eckos> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[18:05] <Eckos> is only available from another source
[18:05] <Eckos> oops
[18:05] <graft> jumbers: i know very little about gnome... this is in nautilus i assume?
[18:05] <FloodBot2> Eckos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <xerxes1358> white_eagle, some VBA code written in Office 2007 VSTO breaks in old VBA office 2003
[18:06] <prince_jammys> ozzloy: it wasnt checked you mean? or did you uncheck it?
[18:06] <jumbers> graft: Yes
[18:06] <white_eagle> What works
[18:06] <white_eagle> Nothing. Not even the installer
[18:06] <white_eagle> (from appdb)
[18:06] <graft> jumbers: try edit -> preferences -> preview?
[18:06] <bruenig> hmm
[18:07] <ozzloy> prince_jammys: it wasn't checked
[18:07] <ozzloy> prince_jammys: and still isn't
[18:07] <xerxes1358> damn
[18:07] <jumbers> graft: Nope, that seems to just ask which type of files it should generate for
[18:07] <danbhfive> Eckos: try cryptsetup
[18:07] <graft> jumbers: you don't have an option 'show thumbnails'?
[18:07] <xerxes1358> Why is it I can only login 1 MSN account at a time??
[18:08] <kesi> hi all just wondering if I am on the right path here.  I am trying to get streaming video in my browser like to watch Lost on ABC or movies on Netflix.  I always get that error that I have to be on Win or MacOS.   I am installing all the restricted packags now and then the totem plugins, will this work or is it a lost cause
[18:08] <Eckos> i have cryptsetup installed
[18:08] <jumbers> graft: I don't need to enable thumbnails, they're already enabled. I meant pre-generating them before I ever open a folder
[18:09] <Daenyth|Work> kesi: you can't stream from netflix in linux, it uses some windows-only drm
[18:09] <bullgard4> white_eagle: "Package Contents Search Results: You have searched for emesene in gutsy, architecture i386. Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture."
[18:09] <danbhfive> kesi, nope, won't work
[18:09] <graft> jumbers: oh ah...
[18:09] <graft> jumbers: how would that work? it scans your drive and constantly generates thumbnails for any new images it finds?
[18:09] <danbhfive> kesi: ABC is a windoze only website now, because of move or something
[18:09] <kesi> Daenyth|Work, danbhfive ok... is ABC streaming the same thing?
[18:09] <danbhfive> kesi: fox went that way too
[18:09] <usser> bullgard4 what are u trying to do?
[18:09] <jumbers> graft: Yeah, hourly cron or something
[18:10] <kesi> danbhfive, ah ok.  So, there is nothing I can do then...
[18:10] <white_eagle> bull
[18:10] <white_eagle> bullgard4: it isn't in the repos
[18:10] <Daenyth|Work> kesi: Don't know, but I wouldn;t be surprised
[18:10] <white_eagle> google it
[18:10] <danbhfive> kesi: for those websites, no, maybe for netflix
[18:10] <white_eagle> bullgard4: do you listen?
[18:10] <kesi> that really sucks.
[18:10] <Daenyth|Work> kesi: send them emails complaining
[18:10] <Daenyth|Work> :P
[18:10] <kesi> I will
[18:10] <usser> bullgard4 kopete is pretty good for msn
[18:10] <danbhfive> kesi: actually, you might be able to install firefox under wine, and get it working that way
[18:11] <kesi> ah... not a bad idea...
[18:11] <zerobug> list
[18:11] <Daenyth|Work> you can;t use firefox for netflix
[18:11] <Daenyth|Work> only IE
[18:11] <xerxes1358> what is the button for Scale function?
[18:11] <Daenyth|Work> It uses activeX
[18:11] <kesi> danbhfive, I have wine installed but never used it, I will try to install IE under Wine and see if that works.
[18:11] <bullgard4> white_eagle: Sure I am following this channel. What can I do for you?
[18:11] <usser> es4linux
[18:11] <alevine> Slart: thanks for the help, i appreciate it
[18:12] <white_eagle> bullgard4: do you want me to tell you the url
[18:12] <danbhfive> !IES4linux | kesi maybe this works
[18:12] <Slart> alevine: it's working?
[18:12] <ubotu> kesi maybe this works: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[18:12] <usser> !ies4linux | kesi
[18:12] <ubotu> kesi: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[18:12] <white_eagle> of the page?
[18:12] <alevine> Slart: appears to be, everything worked and the fstab didnt change
[18:12] <rajasun> bullgard4: echo "deb http://apt.emesene.org/ ./" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install emesene
[18:12] <Slart> alevine: nice.. I'm not sure about why the error popped up originally.. we'll just call this a work around =)
[18:12] <kesi> thanks guys, I will try that and report back :)
[18:12] <white_eagle> thanks rajasun
[18:12] <white_eagle> ;)
[18:12] <rajasun> white_eagle: np
[18:13] <usser> kesi but its most likely not gonna work with ies4linux
[18:13] <bullgard4> rajasun: Thank you for advising.
[18:13] <graft> jumbers: dunno, man, you might be able to write a python script to do it, but i don't know how off the top of my head
[18:13] <kesi> usser good point but it's worth a try to me
[18:13] <Daenyth|Work> Is it possible to install an 8.04 package in 7.10? I really need armenian support, and the #ubuntu-ru  people told me 8.10 had a writing package that supports it
[18:13] <graft> jumbers: check out http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ if you're feeling ambitious
[18:13] <white_eagle> what is affinity?
[18:13] <Daenyth|Work> I've installed the 7.10 versions already but I don't have the fonts in openoffice
[18:13] <white_eagle> !info affinity
[18:13] <ubotu> Package affinity does not exist in gutsy
[18:14] <Daenyth|Work> !search language.*hy
[18:14] <ubotu> Found:
[18:14] <alevine> Slart: looks like it
[18:14] <Daenyth|Work> !search language*hy
[18:14] <deeptrance>  anyone familiar with ide to usb interfaces? i just got one for my 80gb hdd and i cant see it to mount it i can see it via "lsusb" but past that it doesnt exsist
[18:14] <frold> Hmm I cant delete files from my SD card... I have a dell inspirion 9300 which have a SD card reader build in.. I can see the files, but Im not able to delete the files... What could be wrong?
[18:14] <Pici> !msgthebot | Daenyth|Work
[18:14] <ubotu> Daenyth|Work: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:14] <Daenyth|Work> deeptrance: did you check dmesg | tail?
[18:14] <Daenyth|Work> deeptrance: also try cat /proc/partitions
[18:14] <kitche> frold probably a permission issue
[18:15] <xerxes1358> What is the Expose function in linux? What button do I use ?
[18:15] <Daenyth|Work> xerxes1358: you should install the compiz-config-settings-manager
[18:15] <Daenyth|Work> or so
[18:15] <Daenyth|Work> shift+alt+up by default, I *think*
[18:16] <kitche> xerxes1358: there is no Expose function in linux but in compiz-fusion it's like what Mac OS X does for the windows
[18:16] <Attilone> hi everyone
[18:16] <deeptrance> Daenyth|Work: i receved an error message for dmesg and partitions showed nothing
[18:16] <tafkaz> hi there... i have a really strange problem here with davfs2...but maybe it is not so much davfs2 related as i thought...
[18:16] <frold> kitche: how do you think I solve it?
[18:16] <rajasun> xerxes1358: install compiz-config-settings-manager and also read this guide > http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[18:16] <frold> The SD card is not locked...
[18:16] <Daenyth|Work> is it possible to install a 8.04 package in 7.10? I really need the language-support-writing-hy package
[18:16] <tafkaz> i want to copy files from a davfs2 mounted webdav share to a local folder on my harddrive
[18:17] <kesi> usser and danbhfive:  I am installing this now but it doesn't seem like it's a software that is intended to run under wine...  am I misunderstanding?
[18:17] <[chr0n0s]> is there any download manager which allows me to make multiple streams for the same file ?
[18:17] <tafkaz> mounting and everything worx absolutely flawless
[18:17] <Daenyth|Work> kesi: I doubt it will work under wine
[18:17] <alevine> Slart: do you know if this means that reiserfsprogs was built without support for uuid: Dependencies: 1:3.6.19-6 - libc6 (2 2.6) libuuid1 (0 (null)) -- taken from apt-cache showpkg
[18:17] <xerxes1358> rajasun, ok
[18:17] <prince_jammys> kesi: are you trying to install ie?
[18:17] <Attilone> internet exploer lol
[18:17] <Daenyth|Work> kesi: maybe try a vmware or virtualbox install of windows (assuming you have a legal key, etc, piracy is evil, blah)
[18:17] <tafkaz> but after a while i get loads of these here:
[18:17] <Slart> alevine: might be any number of things.. have you tried running fsck.reiser and specifying the uuid of the drive?
[18:17] <prince_jammys> kesi: there is a special way of doing this, not by installing windows ie under wine
[18:18] <kitche> frold: you need write permissions to the card
[18:18] <alevine> Slart: yes, same error
[18:18] <usser> kesi it does run under wine its just it creates its own wine context not to break your wine setup
[18:18] <kesi> Daenyth|Work, I have all that, I guess I can just use my windows box for now.. I just hate doing it
[18:18] <tafkaz> cp: cannot open `/mnt/webdav/foo/bar/foo/foo bar/foo/foo.bar' for reading: Input/output error
[18:18] <Slart> alevine: might be a bug.. might be deliberate.. hard to etll
[18:18] <frold> kitche: Seems like I have it... is it because the card i formatet FAT16?
[18:18] <Daenyth|Work> kesi: understandable. Look into mono possibly also
[18:18] <kitche> frold: nope
[18:18] <kesi> prince_jammys, trying to get streaming video from sites like netflix and ABC to work
[18:18] <usser> kesi install virtual box or vmware-server and run windows in a virtual machine
[18:19] <tafkaz> what really seems strange to me is the ` at the beginning....isnt that supposed to be a ' instead ?
[18:19] <white_eagle> I hate windoze
[18:19] <usser> kesi i particularly like virtual box its lightweight and has a nice feature of showing your windows programs as if they run inside linux
[18:19] <tafkaz> cause when i do a cd `/mnt/webdav/foo/bar/foo/foo bar/foo/'
[18:19] <tafkaz> this does not work
[18:19] <AtomicSpark> add/remove programs vs synaptic package manager, which one do you use the most and why?
[18:19] <tafkaz> any idea is greatly appreciated
[18:20] <kesi> that was a little scary.. that install just crashed gnome...it came back up though so hopefully all is good
[18:20] <danbhfive> tafkaz: does the folder exist?
[18:20] <tafkaz> yup of course
[18:20] <AtomicSpark> usser: KVM > you
[18:20] <absalom> my ubuntu is reallllyyyy slow, even slower than xp. Any well-known reasons for this?
[18:21] <tafkaz> danbhfive, all the files are there but cant be copied
[18:21] <danbhfive> tafkaz: have you checked the permissions?
[18:21] <graft> absalom: slow in what way?
[18:21] <AtomicSpark> absalom: what is slower then xp? the general interface? file transfers? what?
[18:21] <tafkaz> cd `/mnt/webdav/foo/bar/foo/foo bar/foo/' doesnt work but cd '/mnt/webdav/foo/bar/foo/foo bar/foo/'
[18:22] <tafkaz> permissions of the folder ?
[18:22] <tafkaz> hm
[18:22] <artti> Computer is still dam slow.
[18:22] <tafkaz> can read !
[18:22] <graft> tafkaz: the ` tick is not used to delimit strings with ', usually...
[18:22] <c1|freaky> umm if i use nice, is a higher nice number faster, or slower?
[18:22] <absalom> the interface, especially firefox
[18:22] <Oli```> Anybody here have problems with *some* DVDs? Recent Disney ones and Terminator 3 just refuse to play for more than a minute here =(
[18:22] <danbhfive> tafkaz: ls -al
[18:22] <absalom> it takes a couple of second to scroll, close a tab, switch to a tab etc
[18:23] <xyblor> How do you force X to use a particular resolution when it starts. I have a dual-head display on a Radeon 8500, Ubuntu 7.10
[18:23] <kitche> Oli```: nope don't have a problem but you most likely do not havie something installed
[18:23] <danbhfive> c1|freaky: I think higher means slower
[18:23] <tafkaz> -rw-r--r--  1 root root
[18:23] <absalom> and just a minute ago ubuntu logged me out
[18:23] <Daenyth|Work> c1|freaky: think of it as how "nice" the program will be to others. High number is "very nice" and thus will let other programs go first
[18:23] <graft> absalom: are you familiar with 'top'?
[18:23] <c1|freaky> ok
[18:23] <anunez48> i need help to install graphics driver anyone?
[18:23] <absalom> graft: no
[18:23] <c1|freaky> ok got it Daenyth|Work
[18:23] <c1|freaky> ^^
[18:23] <graft> absalom: run top in a shell, it'll show you which processes are using most of your CPU/memory
[18:23] <Daenyth|Work> :)
[18:23] <tafkaz> danbhfive, should do the job shouldnt it
[18:24] <graft> absalom: if something is being a hog, that'll help you identify it so you can troubleshoot the problem
[18:24] <absalom> ok cool
[18:24] <anunez48> i need help to install graphics driver anyone?
[18:24] <tafkaz> anunez48, envy helped me
[18:24] <danbhfive> tafkaz: what should do the job?
[18:24] <absalom> firefox-bin takes up about 95-105% of cpu
[18:24] <anunez48> ok
[18:24] <tafkaz> danbhfive, -rw-r--r--  1 root root
[18:24] <prince_jammys> !envy
[18:24] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:25] <absalom> graft: firefox-bin takes up about 95-105% of cpu
[18:25] <tafkaz> right...but its still a damn cool thingie
[18:25] <danbhfive> tafkaz: that should work, it should allow for copying
[18:25] <tafkaz> danbhfive, right but it doesnt
[18:25] <AtomicSpark> absalom: well thats why your firefox is slow :P thats odd. did this just happen recently or always happens? did you install any addons to firefox?
[18:26] <Oli```> kitche: I've got *everything* installed. It's possible that it's the drive but I thought it might be down to new DRMs that these jokers keep trying to squeeze onto their DVDs
[18:26] <highrelyguy> list
[18:26] <absalom> hm, yes, two addons, firebug and some web dev toolbar
[18:26] <danbhfive> tafkaz: well, I don't think you need to use ' or `
[18:26] <AtomicSpark> absalom: firefox has some flash issues for me. randomly it will freeze if i try to move away from a flash video. :\
[18:26] <anunez48> i cant find envy
[18:26] <danbhfive> AtomicSpark: that's a well know error
[18:27] <tafkaz> danbhfive, well no of course i only do a cp -r /mnt/webdav /usr/local/backup
[18:27] <graft> absalom: yeah... clearly something ain't right
[18:27] <Pici> anunez48: Envy is not supported by us.
[18:27] <Pici> !envy | anunez48
[18:27] <ubotu> anunez48: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:27] <tafkaz> danbhfive, but in the error i get it has this `
[18:27] <graft> absalom: are you using any outlandish extensions on firefox?
[18:27] <c1|freaky> s there any good tutorial for a useful encryption of a second harddisk (where important stuff is stured) for a server?
[18:27] <AtomicSpark> well speaking of said error. what does everyone use? the adobe flash or that other "free" flash?
[18:27] <absalom> graft: nope
[18:27] <luke_> hey again..i removed emerald and i replaced it with metacity but still i have to launch manually metacity when i restart my pc to have window boarders..what to do?
[18:27] <graft> absalom: try killing and restarting firefox, see if that helps
[18:27] <anunez48> ok
[18:28] <absalom> it doesnt, its been like this for a day or two
[18:28] <Grab> guys: how can i read channel logs in psybnc? i added a channel log with: addlog #chan :*, but how do i read the chan log when i come back ?
[18:28] <anunez48> i want to install compiz fusion
[18:28] <graft> absalom: even if you're just looking at, say, google?
[18:28] <AtomicSpark> anunez48: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[18:28] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: cannot stat?
[18:28] <danbhfive> tafkaz: I don't know, sorry
[18:28] <anunez48> 7.10
[18:29] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, what do you mean ?
[18:29] <anunez48> from 7.04 to 7.10
[18:29] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: what are you trying to do? copy a folder?
[18:29] <tafkaz> danbhfive, thanx anyways no prob !
[18:29] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, yes !
[18:29] <AtomicSpark> anunez48: go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:29] <absalom> graft: hm no, having two tabs with google results in them worked fine
[18:29] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: what is the error message you get?
[18:29] <graft> absalom: i blame the websites you're browsing, then
[18:29] <absalom> graft: aswell as closing the tabs
[18:29] <absalom> hm yeh, the ones I were on before had flash ads
[18:30] <AtomicSpark> anunez48: you might need the xserver-xgl package if it doesnt work for you. i needed it myself. install it using the synaptic package manager after that guide.
[18:30] <artti> When i know that i have Xubuntu?
[18:30] <graft> absalom: hmm, which flash plugin are you using?
[18:30] <tafkaz> prince_jammys,  cp -r /mnt/webdav/ /usr/local/backup/ is what i do (the /mnt/webdav is a davfs2 mounted webdav-share)
[18:30] <anunez48> ok, but i think i have problem with the graphics driver
[18:30] <absalom> Graft: You dont happen to know if there's a tv-tuner around for ubuntu? To use with my tv-in card
[18:30] <absalom> graft: Im not too sure
[18:30] <fuffalo> are screenlets only supposed to show up when you turn them on?  Or is there a way to make them invisible unless you perform a keystroke (like the macos ones)?
[18:30] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, and then it starts to copy...everything seems allright up to
[18:30] <graft> absalom: try installing um, flashplugin-nonfree
[18:30] <luke_> hello again..i removed emerald and i replaced it with metacity but still i have to launch manually metacity when i restart my pc to have window boarders..what can i do to launch metacity automatically?
[18:30] <smultron> i just booted up the computer and it goes straight to the command prompt. and if i try to type any commands it get "command not found". i have to type all of them by full-path. any idea what could have caused this?
[18:31] <AtomicSpark> anunez48: do you have the driver enabled in restricted drivers manger? you need that for 3d accel. the xserver-xgl package will fully fix this.
[18:31] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, suddenly i get cp: cannot open `/mnt/webdav/foo/bar/foo bar/foo.bar for reading: Input/output error
[18:31] <smultron> and I can't launch X because it's "not configured properly"
[18:31] <anunez48> the xorg.conf in device shows me:Identifier	"Generic Video Card"
[18:31] <anunez48> 	Driver		"vesa"
[18:31] <anunez48> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[18:31] <frold> kitche: When I try in commandpromt its say" Its a read only file system" howto make it a do want you want to file system?
[18:31] <tafkaz> loads of those | prince_jammys
[18:31] <Edgard> hey someone canhelp me to install a ATI radeon Xpress 1100 on Gusty Gibbon?
[18:32] <AtomicSpark> anunez48: what video card do you have?
[18:32] <kitche> frold: sudo chmod a+w <where you mounted it> is one way
[18:32] <nox-Hand> I am rather confused about this apt error: http://pastebin.ca/910001 Help?
[18:32] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, and now i am stuck....cause i dont know what goes wrong
[18:32] <absalom> graft: I think that's what I have
[18:32] <anunez48> i run this command :lspci |grep VGA
[18:32] <frold> kitche: mounted? /media/disk/?
[18:32] <tafkaz> can i put davfs2 to debug ?
[18:33] <AtomicSpark> Edgard: i have a x1350, it should work fine. if you mean get drivers, check the restricted driver manager
[18:33] <absalom> ANyone know if there's any tv-tuner(tv-in) for ubuntu??
[18:33] <artti> When i know that i have installed Xubuntu?
[18:33] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: i'm stuck too, with i/o error... can you actually view the files that report errors?
[18:33] <anunez48> and shows me: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> tafkaz: apt-get install What?
[18:33] <norml_advocate> i just installed kde.  Then I couldnt access the administrator control through kcontrol.  So I switched back to gde.  now my quick user switch applet is gone, and my computer crashed.  This never happened in ubuntu.  How do I get rid of kde?
[18:33] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, yes thats the funny pasrt
[18:33] <abelabel> hi, how do I prevent alt-rightclick from showing a popup menu? I need that command in an application
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> nox-Hand:  apt-get install What?
[18:33] <tafkaz> all the data is there and can be used
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry
[18:34] <graft> absalom: you mean a tuner card?
[18:34] <tafkaz> Jack_Sparrow, no prob
[18:34] <graft> absalom: or a program to watch tv?
[18:34] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: youve tried "sudo", though that doesnt seem like the problem?
[18:34] <luke_> hello ... .what is the config file that shows to gnome what window decorator to use, emerald or metacity?
[18:34] <tafkaz> i cp as root
[18:34] <absalom> graft: a program to watch tv
[18:34] <anunez48> when i go to system ->preferences->apeearence
[18:34] <tafkaz> sudo -s
[18:34] <Edgard> hey atomicspark, do you know some place to get drivers?
[18:34] <graft> absalom: mythtv
[18:34] <absalom> hm ok
[18:34] <frold> kitche: may I start a private chat with you?
[18:34] <frold> I have a paste from commandpromt
[18:34] <graft> absalom: one of the most highly-praised programs on linux in general, actually
[18:34] <anunez48> it tell me could not enable desktop effects
[18:35] <norml_advocate> i just installed kde.  Then I couldnt access the administrator control through kcontrol.  So I switched back to gde.  now my quick user switch applet is gone, and my computer crashed.  This never happened in ubuntu.  How do I get rid of kde?
[18:35] <kitche> frold: I m about to go outside and shovel some snow so not really
[18:35] <graft> absalom: tho i've never used it, so i can't say if that praise is misplaced
[18:35] <AtomicSpark> Edgard: I only know about the ones the restricted driver manager gives me. :\
[18:35] <frold> okay, np
[18:35] <artti> Can anyone tell me, how i know that i have installed Xubuntu?
[18:35] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: stuck ,,, anything special about the file names that give error
[18:35] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, basically this all makes me go crazy....
[18:35] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: did you try the command I gave you?  you left...
[18:35] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, not at all
[18:35] <norml_advocate> danbhfive what  command was that?
[18:35] <nox-Hand> Jack_Sparrow: Apt get install nothing, I am calling it to worko n the error from before. I was installing xubuntu-desktop from an Xorg-free Ubuntu. Then those three gave error. Apt-get install without anything automatically works on erros from before. So apt-get install acpid acpid-support and that powermanagement one
[18:35] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[18:36] <tafkaz> well theres a space in one folders name....but hey....this should work
[18:36] <norml_advocate> danbhfive  that brought my NM applet back, but not my quick user switch
[18:36] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, how can i configure davfs to be more verbose ?
[18:37] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: maybe you just need to add the quick user thingy to the top panel bar
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> nox-Hand: xubuntu-desktop is what I was after...  NOt sure what an xorg-free ubuntu is so sorry I cant help with any of that
[18:37] <anunez48> AtomicSpark: are you there?
[18:37] <graft> does anyone else ever have problems with apport sucking up CPU cycles every time something (e.g. firefox) crashes?
[18:37] <norml_advocate> danbhfive  good call im just dumb
[18:37] <graft> i'm getting pretty sick of it
[18:38] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: cool  :)
[18:38] <xerxes1358> rajasun, I am running Gnome where do I add the Applications->Settings->Autostarted applications.
[18:38] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: you can use gtkorphan to remove some of those old kde packages
[18:38] <danbhfive> norml_advocate: FYI
[18:39] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: there has to be a better channel than this for your problem
[18:39] <norml_advocate> but I do have one more question.  My computer just hung a min. ago.  It never did that b4 in ubuntu.  do i want to remove the old kde packs?
[18:39] <dan>     
[18:39] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, u know any ? :-)
[18:39] <artti> Does anyone know, when i have installed Xubuntu and it's active???
[18:39] <prince_jammys> tafkaz: #linux comes to mind, it's not really a #bash
[18:39] <Pici> artti: know what?
[18:40] <tafkaz> prince_jammys, i will try there ! thanx
[18:40] <ygorabreu> Hello guys..does any1 know a program like aptoncd ? cuz i can get it work !
[18:40] <prince_jammys> ?
[18:40] <ygorabreu> Hello guys..does any1 know a program like aptoncd ? cuz i cant get it work !*
[18:41] <artti> Pici, i installed Xubuntu, but i know that is Xubuntu, but not Ubuntu with Xubuntu theme.
[18:41] <Pici> artti: Xubuntu uses xfce instead of Gnome.
[18:41] <nox-Hand> Jack_Sparrow: Ubuntu minimal install upgraded with xubuntu setup
[18:42] <Boglizk> The part were an old panel used to be has left a black "bar" where the wallpaper i suposed to be. How do i reload without restarting X?
[18:42] <xerxes1358> Can someone tell me where I have to change this part in Gnome: The easy-but-inefficient way  on this page: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[18:42] <artti> Pici, so i can remove all Gnome packages?
[18:42] <Pici> artti: I'm still not sure what you are asking
[18:43] <artti> Pici, can i remove gnome packages? That Ubuntu needs, but Xubuntu not.
[18:44] <norml_advocate> is there a way to do some kind of super duper premade meta update
[18:44] <norml_advocate> ?
[18:44] <Pici> artti: Xubuntu still may need some gnome packages, but it won't let you remove them without a fight if you try.
[18:44] <artti> pici, when i have Xubuntu, should lsb_release -a show me Xubuntu?
[18:44] <Pici> artti: probably not.
[18:45] <Pici> artti: What did you install? From the xubuntu CD or just the xubuntu-desktop package?
[18:45] <xerxes1358> How do I now remove all KDE stuff from my machine?
[18:45] <artti> Pici, xubuntu-desktop package.
[18:45] <white_eagle> bye guys
[18:45] <anunez48>  i need help to install graphics driver anyone?
[18:45] <Pici> artti: I believe lsb_release shows the base distro name regardless.
[18:46] <usr13> anunez48: What display card?
[18:46] <Boglizk> anunez48: In the administration menu
[18:46] <mike16> hi all im looking for a way to set up samba so it does not a password
[18:46] <AtomicSpark> xerxes1358: look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:46] <danbhfive> artti: you can try this: install gtkorphan, run sudo gtkorphan, hibernate your xubuntu-desktop and hibernate linux-generic, and any other packages you want.   Lastly, remove away!
[18:46] <anunez48> i think it is  Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[18:46] <artti> danbhfive, what that do?
[18:47] <Tom47> does ubuntu record the time it was last shutdown? where?
[18:47] <danbhfive> artti: it will remove packages that aren't involved with xubuntu-desktop
[18:47] <usr13> anunez48: As Boglizk said, look in the administration menu.
[18:47] <rody> oi
[18:47] <artti> danbhfive, how i hibernate?
[18:48] <danbhfive> artti: are you running the program?
[18:48] <kakei> im trying to startx on a inspiron 1520 with an intel integrated graphic, and when i startx after installing the intel driver i get : "I810: No matching device section for instance (BisID PCI:0:2:1) found (EE) No devices detected.
[18:48] <usr13> anunez48: Have you booted with the new card installed?
[18:48] <frold> !sd card
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd card - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <frold> !mount
[18:48] <artti> danbhfive, well i started terminal just now to install gtkorphan
[18:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[18:48] <anunez48> it on board
[18:49] <_ruben> !framebuffer
[18:49] <ubotu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[18:49] <anunez48> but i think that the xorg.conf is wrong
[18:49] <ghostlines> ubuntu uses restricted drivers for graphics cards, and they work but is it still recommended to download the latest?
[18:49] <usr13> anunez48: Are you on that machine now?
[18:49] <anunez48> yes
[18:49] <artti> danbhfive, is which one i should use: apt-get or aptitude?
[18:49] <danbhfive> artti: well, the answer is, right click on the package
[18:50] <usr13> anunez48:  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:50] <xerxes1358> Hm this guide is outdated. I dont have Desktop Effects https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:50] <xerxes1358> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:50] <xerxes1358> oeps
[18:51] <anunez48> Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[18:51] <anunez48> sorry
[18:51] <anunez48>       Driver          "kbd"
[18:51] <anunez48>         Driver          "mouse"
[18:51] <anunez48>         Driver          "wacom"
[18:51] <anunez48>         Driver          "wacom"
[18:51] <anunez48>         Driver          "wacom"
[18:51] <anunez48>         Driver          "vesa"
[18:51] <FloodBot2> anunez48: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:52] <anunez48> ok sorry
[18:52] <turshu_> hi
[18:52] <toresn> what would you say is the best cli-tool to make avi files from dvds?
[18:52] <toresn> i.e. a dvdrip application
[18:52] <Tom47> does ubuntu record the time it was last shutdown? where?
[18:52] <toresn> Tom47: uptime?
[18:52] <usr13> anunez48: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "vesa" to "i810"
[18:53] <Tom47> toresn .... i am trying to find what time i last closed ubuntu down
[18:53] <anunez48> reboot
[18:53] <arlexx> hey i cant install wow on my computer :/ can someone tell me how to do?
[18:53] <_ruben> Tom47: you can use the "last" command for that .. or perhaps that only shows when it was booted
[18:53] <usr13> anunez48:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:53] <usr13> anunez48:  But first, backup xorg.conf file
[18:53] <Tom47> _ruben yes i can see when i last booted it
[18:53] <usr13> anunez48: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[18:53] <toresn> Tom47: yeah, wouldn't the 'uptime' command tell you that?
[18:54] <arlexx> does anyone know hoqw to install wow in linux?
[18:54] <hot2trot> anybody know why the usb ports arn't showing on my drive list
[18:54] <Pici> arlexx:  use wine, and refer to the appdb
[18:54] <danbhfive> arlexx: use win
[18:54] <[chr0n0s]> arlexx, install wine/cedega
[18:54] <Pici> !appdb | arlexx
[18:54] <ubotu> arlexx: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[18:54] <arlexx> ok
[18:54] <xerxes1358> Is it possible to change my file system from EXT3 to XFS or ReiserFS? I think my multiMedia application all hang becuse EXT3 is superslow
[18:54] <artti> danbhfive, hibernate xubuntu-desktop do what?
[18:54] <Tom47> toresn .... i close down each night ...... just started it again this morning .... trying to find the time i closed down (old brain)
[18:54] <danbhfive> artti: yeah, hibernate xubuntu-desktop
[18:55] <brobostigon> xerxes1358: use gparted
[18:55] <artti> danbhfive, but i want xubuntu run instead of ubuntu.
[18:55] <sneedly> #acid-lounge HappYGoLucky
[18:55] <danbhfive> artti: exactly, you should hibernate any package you want to keep
[18:56] <_ruben> uhoh .. ubuntu just told me it cant find a valid superblock on my 1TB software raid
[18:56] <artti> danbhfive, oh, i thought that hibernate is something that removes. :)
[18:57] <Tom47> _ruben toresn ... looks like i may be able to work it out from last .... ty
[18:59] <BabyPenguin> NE1 know where I can go for gnome help on ubuntu?
[18:59] <Pici> BabyPenguin: here.
[18:59] <BabyPenguin> Great!
[18:59] <BabyPenguin> Pici: thank you.
[18:59] <artti> danbhfive, some recommends what other packages i should keep.
[18:59] <danbhfive> artti: what?
[19:00] <BabyPenguin> Pici:  I need to make the xhost + command permanent.  Any ideas?
[19:00] <artti> danbhfive, nothing.
[19:00] <matty> hi
[19:00] <toresn> what program do you use for ripping dvds?
[19:00] <GuyFromHell> I can't (and never could) get network-manager-vpnc to work but running 'sudo vpnc' works fine. can anyone either help me get network-manager-vpnc to work or help me get a script to run after connection to wireless?
[19:00] <toresn> i'm mostly interested in command line programs
[19:01] <popey> toresn: dvd:rip
[19:01] <BabyPenguin> I need to make the xhost + command permanent.  Any ideas?
[19:01] <GuyFromHell> (by 'work' i mean it says it's connected to the vpnc (it has the shiny lock thing) but i don't have internet for some unknown reason)
[19:02] <Boglizk> The part were an old panel used to be has left a black "bar" where the wallpaper i suposed to be. How do i reload the desktop without restarting X?
[19:02] <absalom> Hello, anyone have any experience in installing mythtv? I used "sudo apt-get install mythtv" to install, but when I try to run it I always end up in some database setp window.
[19:02] <toresn> popey: is that 'dvdrip' in the repositories?
[19:03] <BabyPenguin> Can NE1 help me make the xhost + command permanent?
[19:03] <matty> hello  can anybody help me? i would like to install locale iso-8859-15
[19:03] <macogw> absalom: try installing the rest of the mythtv control panel stuff
[19:03] <macogw> matty: er...
[19:03] <macogw> matty: you mean to use inside Firefox instead of using Unicode?
[19:03] <popey> toresn: yeah, but i thought it was a console app - it's a gui, sorry
[19:03] <macogw> matty: you can just change that setting in View -> Character Encoding
[19:04] <stooge> i have a partitioned 114gb out of 500gb for ubuntu (vista on larger). ubuntu 7.1 live disk will not recongise the partition i formatted for it. how can i make ubuntu install on the 114gb partition and not the windows partition? help please...
[19:04] <matty> no i mean in general
[19:04] <BabyPenguin> I'm trying to get MPlayer to work without having to issue the xhost + command each time after I reboot, any ideas?
[19:04] <macogw> matty: what? that doesnt make much sense
[19:04] <Tom47> _ruben: toresn .... last did it for me thank you
[19:05] <Boglizk> macogw: Why would chaning the locale not make sense?
[19:05] <matty> when i am editing a php file i have problems withe the german ao or ou for example
[19:05] <graft> stooge: how's the partition set up?
[19:05] <macogw> Boglizk: because it defaults to Unicode which works everywhere, while using Latin-1 only works for some computers
[19:05] <macogw> matty: HTML Entities
[19:05] <anunez48> im back
[19:05] <macogw> matty: Unicode can handle any character
[19:06] <xerxes1358> Can someone suggest a solution: ANY multimedia application I open hangs (it gets grey) What can I do ?
[19:06] <anunez48> how do i know which graphic card do i have?
[19:06] <stooge> larger drive for vista ntfs drive c: | 114gb ntfs drive f:
[19:07] <Boglizk> xerxes1358: Sounds like some problem with the sound
[19:07] <graft> stooge: um, so you ntfs formatted it?
[19:07] <TuxLuv> NE1 here good at configuring X?
[19:07] <gatestone> Why is my front microphone contantly capturing, so that if I don't set the level low it willl start a sreaming feedback?
[19:07] <EADG> anunez48: type lspci in a terminal
[19:07] <matty> the main problem is, we are 2 poeple workin on the same files, one under ubuntu with quanta+ or screem and the under windows with edit plus 2
[19:07] <gatestone> I mean mic is feeding input to my built-in speakers, constantly
[19:07] <xerxes1358> Boglizk, ok what to do then?
[19:07] <Kibbles> how do i check users/groups in terminal?
[19:07] <Boglizk> xerxes1358: No idea.
[19:07] <macogw> matty: if you want to be able to display those characters in strings, use the ones of the form &Agrave; not the number ones, and itll work on every charset
[19:07] <artti> danbhfive, how i remove unneeded packages in gtkorphan?
[19:07] <stooge> yes ntfs. tried fat32 on f: drive first and didn't work so i formated to ntfs
[19:08] <gatestone> How do I disable that, without disabling the mic for good.
[19:08]  * chalcedny smiles
[19:08] <Kibbles> (i.e. see user/group assignments)
[19:08] <macogw> matty: thats how you guarantee all web browsers can understand it too
[19:08] <TuxLuv> anyone here use gnome?
[19:08] <leh> hi. when i source configuration files in .profile the configuration (paths etc.) works in terminal, but not in gnome. where should i source the files so gnomes honores the configuration
[19:08] <chalcedny> TuxLuv, such a question ;)
[19:08] <graft> stooge: if you're talking to someone it's usually polite to prepend their name so it gets highlighted. are you familiar with fdisk?
[19:08] <matty> &Agrave; will not be displayed in emails sended with mail();
[19:08] <matty> or im wrong?
[19:08] <macogw> matty: instead of the thing where it's like: he said ?how?s it going?? thing where all the " are replaced with ?
[19:08] <xerxes1358> Boglizk, Yeah I dont have any sound at all
[19:09] <EADG> Kibbles: groups username
[19:09] <shwellter> hello, im using feisty and have a nsviewplugin fault, is there a fix for this?
[19:09] <macogw> matty: if its html email, itll work fine
[19:09] <chalcedny> shwellter, did you google for that?
[19:09] <xerxes1358> Boglizk, well only Gnome has sound but the applications have no sound. None of them
[19:09] <Kibbles> eadG - thanks
[19:09] <artti> panbhfive, i finded?
[19:09] <matty> it isnt html email, only text
[19:09] <TuxLuv> chalcedny:are you good at configuring gnolkme?
[19:09] <stooge> graft   used it to in windows
[19:09] <shwellter> chalce i did, there's too much info
[19:09] <macogw> matty: and if its plain text email, php *should* convert it all to utf-8
[19:09] <artti> panbhfive, nothing again, sorry.
[19:09] <xerxes1358> Guys I have a problem. None of my application have sound (Gnome makes sound at login ) What to do ?
[19:09] <graft> stooge: are you running the livecd now?
[19:09] <Eckos> omfg this is pissing me off, i install the nonfree flash plugin for firefox yet it still bitches about it not being installed, when i go to install it again, it says its installed
[19:10] <chalcedny> TuxLuv, but until you asked the real question nobody knew what you needed
[19:10] <macogw> matty: utf8_encode turns it into unicode
[19:10] <graft> Eckos: about:plugins
[19:10] <macogw> matty: i mean utf_encode()
[19:10] <neverblue> !ask | TuxLuv
[19:10] <ubotu> TuxLuv: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:10] <graft> Eckos: you might have another version sitting somewhere else (e.g. ~/.mozilla/plugins)
[19:10] <gatestone> leh, if you put your sourcable config scritpts in to .bash_profile, I guess Gnome will use the resulting environment
[19:11] <TuxLuv> OK, thanks.  I need xhost + command to stay permanent after reboot - any ideas?
[19:11] <graft> xerxes1358: try killing esd
[19:11] <stooge> graft: i am working on another computer at this time.
[19:11] <Eckos> graft: doesn't show flash
[19:11] <ConstyXIV> is there any way to get the Ubuntu .iso onto a bootable USB stick, from windows?
[19:11] <matty> just like mail(...,utf_encode($text)); ?
[19:11] <macogw> matty: yeah,  think so
[19:11] <graft> Eckos: huh. where does firefox live? /usr/lib/firefox?
[19:11] <matty> thats an idea
[19:11] <xerxes1358> graft, killall esd ? no such process
[19:12] <Pici> !install > ConstyXIV (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:12] <macogw> matty: the sooner this charset thing dies, the better
[19:12] <ozzloy> when i return from resume, i get 2 prompts for unlocking the keyring so i can log into the network.  this is after upgrading to 7.10.  how do i make it just 1?
[19:12] <graft> stooge: well, that ain't very helpful... i suggest when you get back on there, you fool around with fdisk. delete the small ntfs partition with that if you can, then see if the livecd will use the free space. if it won't, you can make a new linux partition and a new linux swap partition
[19:12] <Eckos> graft: yeah
[19:12] <Eckos> im on the livecd
[19:13] <macogw> matty: i mean, we no longer have computers capable of only doing 1, maybe 2, charsets so that russian computers cant open french douments, but having all the different charsets is still messy
[19:13] <graft> Eckos: oh... no actual ubuntu installed?
[19:13] <stooge> graft:  what should i format that partition in?
[19:13] <TuxLuv> NE1 know what script is executed after gnome login?
[19:13] <leh> gatestone: thx, i'll try that out
[19:13] <macogw> stooge: ext3
[19:13] <graft> stooge: ext3 (Linux extended)
[19:13] <Eckos> graft: no, because im currently in the process of encrypting my hdd
[19:13] <macogw> stooge: windows's formatter cant do it
[19:13] <neverblue> TuxLuv, crons probably will
[19:14] <nonix4> macogw: well the only really messy part is formats & protocols which don't specify the character set used
[19:14] <graft> Eckos: hmm... well i dunno how things do/don't work in that environment
[19:14] <Eckos> why can't they just include it by default automatically
[19:14] <matty> well, thank you, we will test it and if it does not work we will come back again :P
[19:14] <graft> Eckos: -nonfree?
[19:14] <xerxes1358> graft let me reboot maybe that will help. brb
[19:14] <TuxLuv> neverblue: Crons?  You mean the crontab????
[19:14] <stooge> graft:  isn't gparted on the ubuntu live disk, wouldn't that do it?
[19:14] <graft> stooge: yeah, that too
[19:14] <Eckos> graft: the free one sucks hard
[19:14] <swirv> anyone used wifidog or nocat with ubuntu?
[19:15] <zelrikriando> hey how to install GDM theme?
[19:15] <Kibbles> narf.
[19:15] <neverblue> TuxLuv, excessive question marks are not required to get my attention
[19:15] <macogw> nonix4: the demoronizer still has a reason to exist
[19:15] <stooge> graft:  ok. i'll try that. thanks
[19:15] <graft> Eckos: i assume there's some licensing issue
[19:15] <Kibbles> i'm connecting to a remote server through ssh. I know the remote server has samba share... can't find it in terminal? where should i be looking?
[19:15] <nonix4> macogw: definitely... and imnsho utf-16 should die a slow, horribly painful death :)
[19:15] <TuxLuv> neverblue: - sorry no intend to offend.
[19:15] <Eckos> zelrikriando: system->preference->appearence and drag and drop
[19:15] <macogw> nonix4: front page doesnt output proper latin-1 either...they've still got their fake code points for quotes
[19:16] <neverblue> TuxLuv, and yes, I was referring to setting a cron, not using crontab directly, man cron should be able to help
[19:16] <graft> Kibbles: how are you going to find a samba share in a terminal?
[19:16] <nonix4> macogw: and euro sign...
[19:16] <Eckos> graft blah i hate  stupid licensing issues, but why doesn't my other distro complain about it?
[19:16] <Kibbles> graft: umm, I have no clue - grasping at straws here.
[19:16] <graft> Kibbles: you can use smbclient to browse the host via samba
[19:16] <macogw> nonix4: or copyright
[19:16] <graft> Kibbles: if you're ssh'd into the host, you're browsing it's local directory tree - samba shares only exist as exports
[19:16] <nonix4> macogw: basically that 1252 garbage is not latin-1, period.
[19:17] <TuxLuv> neverblue: Are you suggesting I set a cron job to run the xhost+ command?   How would it know when gnome has been logged in?
[19:17] <bsdnewb07> guys, in ubuntu how can i trigger the system to send an email to 'root' or 'superuser'
[19:17] <graft> Kibbles: s/it's/its/
[19:17] <bsdnewb07> dosent matter whats in the email, just need the system to send me one as a test
[19:17] <macogw> nonix4: ive emailed websites before telling them to go to the HTML tab in Front Page and delete the copyright sign and put in &copy; so their site doesn't look stupid to people who don't use IE
[19:17] <Kibbles> graft: but wouldn't i see samba on the server's local directory tree somewhere?
[19:17] <Kibbles> graft: even if i couldn't see the actual share internals
[19:18] <zelrikriando> Eckos: doesnt work
[19:18] <neverblue> TuxLuv, you asked about setting up something that runs when Gnome is entered... it might not be the best suggestion, but it may accomplish what you want (this is in no part related to your xhost question)
[19:18] <graft> Kibbles: well, sort of... samba just says, "Okay, take directory /whatever/directory/ and map it to samba share "BUBBA'S SAMBA SHARE""
[19:18] <graft> Kibbles: so if you tool around enough you can find /whatever/directory/, but there's no, like, /this/is/the/samba/share/directory/
[19:18] <Syxx> Does anyone know how to get vmware player to work
[19:19] <graft> Kibbles: or rather, there's no /BUBBA'S SAMBA SHARE/ directory
[19:19] <roxja-it> Syxx: whats your problem?
[19:19] <leh> gatestone: hmmm, didn't work...
[19:19] <TuxLuv> neverblue:OK, that's what I thought you meant.  I suppose it's at least a fall back solution.  Thank you.
[19:19] <neverblue> Syxx, can you ask something more specific?
[19:19] <Kibbles> graft: ah thanks, never  used samba myself. so you say i have to connect to to the same server using smbclient
[19:19] <Kibbles> graft
[19:19] <Syxx> ok i downloaded vmware player lastnight and i cant gert it to install
[19:19] <Kibbles> err
[19:19] <Kibbles> graft: does 7.10 have smbclient pre-installed?
[19:19] <Syxx> get*
[19:19] <graft> Kibbles: no idea... easy enough to install, tho
[19:19] <roxja-it> Syxx: the rpm?
[19:20] <neverblue> Syxx, so the installation, I am sure the website where you downloaded it from, has a clear explaination on how to install it
[19:20] <Syxx> rpm?
[19:20] <neverblue> Syxx, is it a .deb atleast?
[19:20] <graft> Kibbles: if you're ssh'd in, you CAN find the local directory, and accessing it via sftp might be preferable to using Samba
[19:20] <Syxx> no tar
[19:20] <Kibbles> graft: lol don't want to install it - trying to wade through bosses stupid instructions
[19:20] <neverblue> Syxx, and your not installing vmware via synaptic.... because?
[19:20] <graft> Kibbles: takes two seconds via synaptic, mate...
[19:20] <Kibbles> graft: how could i do that
[19:21] <Kibbles> graft: join #kibbles ? this is dragging on
[19:21] <Neeku> hi
[19:21] <roxja-it> Syxx: just download it from add/remove and that'll take care of everything
[19:21] <Neeku> how can i use my blue tooth adapter in ubuntu?
[19:21] <razza> ImportError: No module named xrandr
[19:21] <razza> why do i get that?
[19:21] <Syxx> ok let me lookd
[19:21] <Syxx> look
[19:21] <razza> how do i i nstall it?
[19:22] <neverblue> Syxx aptitude search vmware (in a terminal)
[19:22] <mynyml> what happened to vmware-player? i can't find it in the repositories
[19:22] <Syxx> i found it in add/remove
[19:23] <roxja-it> Syxx: off you go and install it so :)
[19:23] <Syxx> VMware Player cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)
[19:23] <xerxes1358> Wasnt there a entire package to install ALL POSSIBLE audio/Video plugins for linux ?
[19:23] <Kibbles> graft: can't seem to answer you in pm
[19:23] <Neeku> help me please
[19:23] <graft> Kibbles: oh, not registered, eh
[19:23] <xerxes1358> Neeku, whats wrong bri
[19:23] <xerxes1358> Neeku, whats wrong bro
[19:23] <Kibbles> graft: hence #kibbles
[19:24] <nickrud> vmware-player isn't in the repos anymore, but vmware-server can be installed:   add   deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner   to your sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get  install vmware-server
[19:24] <Syxx> Roxja
[19:24] <byte_slave> hello everyone
[19:24] <Syxx> did you get that
[19:24] <recon> Does anybody know of a way to convert a txt file from DOS format to UNIX?
[19:24] <byte_slave> i'm trying to setup a ssh passwordless connection between 2 machines and i thing i can't get it work, and dunno why
[19:24] <xerxes1358> graft, reboot didnt help my sounds problems
[19:24] <byte_slave> i added the public keys from source machine to remote machine authorizes_keys file
[19:25] <byte_slave> and when trying to connect like: [root@asterisk cron]# ssh -i /home/admin/cron/trixbox-rsync-keys.pub backup_operator@192.168.10.4
[19:25] <roxja-it> Syxx: I did, you could try getting the rpm from vmware but I'm not sure if it'll work with ubuntu
[19:25] <byte_slave> Enter passphrase for key '/home/admin/est/cron/trixbox-rsync-keys.pub':
[19:25] <graft> xerxes1358: can you get any sound at all? like with aplay or mplayer in a shell?
[19:25] <byte_slave> remote machines asks me all the time for key's passphrase
[19:25] <eax> Morning everyone :) I hope someone can help me with this little and simple problem: Does anyone know how I make "locate" search for folders to?
[19:25] <kakei> im trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy but after typing sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade it dont upgrade nothing
[19:25] <Neeku> xerxes1358: i'm not a bro, i'm a sys :) ... how can i use my blue tooth adapter in ubuntu?
[19:26] <erUSUL> !bluetooth
[19:26] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[19:26] <EADG_> eax: It does by default.
[19:26] <xerxes1358> Neeku, check out first if linux recognizes your bluetooth. Dmesg | grep ... and follow the guide.
[19:26] <nickrud> eax: just name the folder you want; locate does a string search in it's database.  so searching for /rich/local for example, will find everything in the local dir in my home
[19:27] <Neeku> xerxes1358: it used to detect it; but now it doesn't
[19:27] <gatestone> leh, did log out of Gnome?
[19:27] <eax> EADG_: For me, it doesn't :(
[19:27] <Neeku> xerxes1358: what's next after 'dmesg | grep'...?
[19:28] <eax> nickrud: I want it to search FOR folders :)
[19:28] <leh> gatestone: yes, i restarted gdm too
[19:28] <xerxes1358> Neeku, read the guide. It is too long ago for me :)
[19:28] <leh> gatestone: i already added it to .profile .gnomerc /etc/profile
[19:28] <Neeku> and by the way, bluez-utils is already installed
[19:28] <harushimo> how do I mount the usb drive?
[19:29] <gatestone> Did you add it to .bash_profile?
[19:29] <TuxLuv> NE1 know how to execute a script on autologin?
[19:29] <Neeku> xerxes1358: ahhaa! it's detected now; but i can't see it on panel
[19:29] <nickrud> eax: it's gonna find everything in that folder, true. you do need to know the name of the folder already.
[19:29] <byte_slave> harushimo, umount /path/to/mounted/dir
[19:29] <xerxes1358> graft, when I try to do aply foo.MP3 I hear a lot loud noise.
[19:29] <xerxes1358> Neeku, sweet
[19:30] <nickrud> eax: I'm not sure what you mean by 'search for folders' I guess
[19:30] <graft> xerxes1358: not sure aplay supports mp3... try mplayer
[19:30] <xerxes1358> Neeku, sudo hidd --search
[19:30] <xerxes1358> ?
[19:30] <eax> Nickrud: I want it to search for folders with a specific name :) Not just search IN the folders. Like searching for an folder named "vmware"
[19:30] <nickrud> TuxLuv: add the script to system->prefs->session
[19:31] <stooge> graft:  did as you said. formatted the 114gb drive to ext3 using ubuntu live cd. still won't recognise the partition.
[19:31] <xerxes1358> erUSUL !sound
[19:31] <xerxes1358> erUSUL sound
[19:31] <xerxes1358> damn bot
[19:31] <erUSUL> xerxes1358: ?
[19:31] <xerxes1358> how does it work
[19:31] <Syxx> how do i enable multiverse
[19:31] <graft> stooge: can you pastebin your partition table?
[19:32] <xerxes1358> !sound
[19:32] <erUSUL> !botabuse | xerxes1358
[19:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:32] <gatestone> leh, maybe you should do like TuxLuv: add your script to system->prefs->session->startups programs
[19:32] <ubotu> xerxes1358: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:32] <harushimo> is this how the command works: umount /path/to/mounted/dev/sda
[19:32] <Neeku> xerxes1358: it says searching... and then nothing happens
[19:32] <harushimo> is this right command I typed
[19:32] <stooge> graft:  don't understand?
[19:32] <graft> stooge: um, you know pastebin?
[19:33] <Syxx> how do i enable multiverse
[19:33] <nickrud> !gutsysources | Syxx
[19:33] <ubotu> Syxx: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[19:33] <codicealpha> hi
[19:33] <stooge> graft:  no. not trying to sound stupid, but no. i understand windows well but i'm not famil with that...
[19:34] <graft> !pastebin | stooge
[19:34] <ubotu> stooge: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:34] <eax> Does anyone know how I make "locate" (the terminal command) search FOR folders?
[19:35] <graft> stooge: put your partition table there and paste the URL here
[19:35] <stooge> graft:  didn't know about that, sorry...
[19:35] <graft> stooge: no problem
[19:35] <EADG_> eax: cd / && sudo locate -u && locate foodir |less    that should find what yer looking for.
[19:36] <eax> EADG_ Thanks a lot :)
[19:36] <xerxes1358> graft, I installed mplayer NOW (not in the past thus) if I select Alsa as output in Amarok I NO LONGER get error. I can play MP3 songs etc and even radio streams
[19:36] <eax> EADG_: Where do I insert the folders name in that line?
[19:36] <fo_x86> with which command do I view a zip file without unzipping the contents?
[19:37] <graft> xerxes1358: my guess is you've got some sound server running that's hogging the sound card via /dev/dsp
[19:37] <EADG_> eax: foodir
[19:37] <eax> EADG_ Thanks a lot :)
[19:37] <Neeku> uh... terminal is great!!
[19:37] <xerxes1358> graft, what to do with it?
[19:37] <xerxes1358> What is a good alternative for Amarok ?
[19:38] <Eckos> audcious?
[19:38] <graft> xerxes1358: well if you're doing fine with amarok, i guess you're halfway there
[19:38] <bastid_raZor> xerxes1358; i like rythymbox.
[19:38] <graft> xerxes1358: what else is not working?
[19:38] <Eckos> i wish the ubuntu kernel supported reiser4
[19:38] <Neeku> xerxes1358: see this: Can't get device information: Success
[19:38] <xerxes1358> graft, I would like to get rid of all KDE things except K3B and Amarok.
[19:38] <SecretLine> ubuntu kernel doesnt support reiser4 ?
[19:39] <Neeku> success or failure?!
[19:39] <erUSUL> Eckos: reiser4 is a dead end it will never get on mainline unless things change a lot
[19:39] <xerxes1358> SecretLine, note that 4 is not stable.
[19:39] <SecretLine> yes
[19:39] <xerxes1358> erUSUL, you mean developer gets of jail ? :)
[19:39] <SecretLine> really?
[19:39] <SecretLine> lol
[19:39] <xerxes1358> Yes
[19:39] <SecretLine> and why?
[19:39] <xerxes1358> pretty sad really.
[19:39] <SecretLine> what they did
[19:40] <magnetron> !offtopic | xerxes1358, SecretLine
[19:40] <ubotu> xerxes1358, SecretLine: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:40] <graft> xerxes1358: do you have arts running? ps -ef | grep arts
[19:40] <xerxes1358> sorry
[19:40] <SecretLine> damn ok magnetron
[19:40] <magnetron> SecretLine, xerxes1358: just join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:40] <SecretLine> im there
[19:42] <xerxes1358> graft, where do you want me to paste it ?
[19:42] <graft> !pastebin | xerxes1358
[19:42] <ubotu> xerxes1358: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:42] <neocortex> hello all, is anyone willing to help me with an gedit issue?
[19:42] <eax> How do I launch the "Search For Files" as sudo?
[19:44] <xerxes1358> graft, here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56654/
[19:44] <fo_x86> how do I view the contents of a zipped file without having to unzip them?
[19:44] <eax> EADG_ THanks :)
[19:44] <imc1> Hi, I just hosed my video graphic driver by trying to connect to an external monitor; I am running 7.10 on a panasonic cf-w4 toughbook; I believe the card is an intel 915 but I cannot find the right driver; is there a way I can what Ubuntu detected on install or have it re-detect automagically?
[19:44] <EADG_> eax Your welcome
[19:45] <EADG_> fo_x86: in a terminal type less file.zip
[19:45] <fo_x86> EADG thanks
[19:45] <dA_ShArP> hi all, I have this error from dpkg .. I can't do any installation, can any body help http://rafb.net/p/ZAdDGm59.html
[19:45] <graft> xerxes1358: there you go, mate... arts is hogging your sound card
[19:46] <graft> xerxes1358: i hate arts! if i were you, i'd just do sudo rm /usr/bin/artsd
[19:46] <xerxes1358> graft, how do you see that ?
[19:46] <graft> xerxes1358: you've got an artsd process running
[19:46] <Ruud> Hello?
[19:46] <gzb> as i recall you can use MC to search for files and preview zips
[19:46] <imc1> Any help on my screen issue?
[19:46] <xerxes1358> graft, is that different from alsa ?
[19:46] <J-_> how can I restart the sound server?
[19:47]  * dA_ShArP needs help
[19:47] <graft> xerxes1358: yeah... alsa is kernel-level, arts is user-level
[19:47] <Ruud> I`m trying to install canon ip2200 under ubuntu, anyone?
[19:47] <J-_> !esd
[19:47] <imc1> dA_ShArP say what you need and someone will try to help
[19:47] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[19:47] <capricorn^80> anyone who has worked with ossec hids ?'
[19:47] <neocortex> hello all, is anyone willing to help me with an gedit issue? syntax highlighting...
[19:47] <dA_ShArP> hi all, I have this error from dpkg .. I can't do any installation, can any body help http://rafb.net/p/ZAdDGm59.html
[19:47] <graft> xerxes1358: arts is a sound server that runs and sits on top of /dev/dsp, blocking it... so if any other program tries to use that, it won't be able to
[19:47] <imc1> neocortex don't ask to ask, just ask
[19:47] <J-_> !alsa
[19:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:47] <xerxes1358> graft, ok I deleted it I wonder how it got there anyway
[19:47] <dA_ShArP> imc1: did you see
[19:47] <imc1> Nope
[19:48] <dA_ShArP> imc1: hi all, I have this error from dpkg .. I can't do any installation, can any body help http://rafb.net/p/ZAdDGm59.html
[19:48] <graft> xerxes1358: it's a (deprecated) part of KDE
[19:48] <sdsheeks> Okay I have a weird issue.  On my laptop I am playing MP3's and I can hear the audio from my laptop speakers while my headphones are plugged in.  Just a note - I can also hear audio through my headphones.... Any ideas?
[19:48] <graft> xerxes1358: honestly i wish they would configure ubuntu so it wouldn't start, ever, at all, under any circumstances, since it's just a nuisance
[19:48] <zach_> i need help with my computer, i had desktop effects enabled and all of a sudden it won't let me enable them again
[19:48] <xerxes1358> graft, I understand then.
[19:48] <xerxes1358> graft, can you help me to remove all (but amarok and k3b) of KDE parts.
[19:49] <Scunizi> graft, this might help you http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP2200
[19:49] <J-_> how can I restart alsa?
[19:49] <zach_> is there anyone that could help me?
[19:49] <neocortex> Is it possible to combine two highlighting templates in gedit? That of R and latex?
[19:49] <sdsheeks> zach_: patience.  Let the guru's see your message.
[19:49] <graft> xerxes1358: tough, probably, given the way dependencies are configured
[19:49] <imc1> dA_ShArP it seems to be saying that Apache wasn't running?
[19:50] <graft> xerxes1358: you're going to at least have to have kdelibs installed,a nd that probably means most of the rest of KDE as well (unfortunately)
[19:50] <dA_ShArP> imc1: the  thing is, apache is RUNNING!!
[19:50] <graft> Scunizi: pretty sure that's not for me
[19:50] <xyblor> !xorg
[19:50] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:50] <imc1> Hmmm. Have you tried restarting it and then running again?
[19:50] <xerxes1358> graft, problem was my ubuntu cd was broken and I had no system installed so Installed Kubuntu then Gnome. I really dislike KDE. So no use having it
[19:50] <xyblor> !dual-head
[19:50] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[19:50] <gzb> sdsheeks: you mean the sound still comes out of your speakers even when you plug your headphones in
[19:50] <xerxes1358> graft, I see
[19:50] <Scunizi> graft, yep.. sorry..
[19:51] <sdsheeks> gzb: exactly.
[19:51] <sdsheeks> gzb: which is pretty neat, but annoy's the wife.
[19:51] <fbn> ql
[19:51] <dA_ShArP> imc1: ohh, I see that, apache is not starting or not stopping and returning error
[19:51] <graft> xerxes1358: ah... well, you can try removing kdelibs4 or whatever, that should remove everything that depends on it... then after that just reinstall k3b and amarok, which'll give you the minimal install. but my guess is it will install everything back again
[19:52] <graft> xerxes1358: out of curiosity, why do you dislike KDE?
[19:52] <gzb> sdsheeks: i have had exactly that, think it is a known bug unfortunately, anyway you are not alone
[19:52] <Tobias92> Hey ubuntu people. Quick question, is there any fast way for me to type an accent-aigu or any other french-like character without having to open openoffice.orgs-symbol chart or via the built-in character list?
[19:52] <capricorn^80> anyone who has worked with ossec hids ?'
[19:52] <xerxes1358> graft, in that case I will just leave it. KDE raises my stress levels. :) seriously, the menus are no where as intuitive as Gnome.
[19:52] <Darkus> ciao
[19:52] <dA_ShArP> imc1: I am unable to un install apache2 :(
[19:52] <sdsheeks> gzb: okay thanks.  I'll see what I can find out by looking on the net.  I imagine it has something to do with not sensing the headphone jack.
[19:52] <Tobias92> Say for example like it works on windows, ' + e = e accent aigu. Or even alt+130
[19:52] <neocortex> Again: Is it possible to combine two highlighting templates in gedit? That of R and latex?
[19:53] <dA_ShArP> imc1: to un install also DPKG returns error!!
[19:53] <zach_> could desktop effects be disabled due to a recently installed package?
[19:53] <illu45> Hello, could someone help me with font sizes in firefox?
[19:53] <usr13> xerxes1358: All those menus are negotiable.
[19:53] <xerxes1358> graft, there is one thing though. When I log in (at start of GDM) My fonts look awe full. You know where you ought to type in your name and password.
[19:53] <conb123> Hi im trying to boot the ubuntu live disc but it always freezes at the same point just as it loads the top and bottom bars i dont know if it is to do with the fact i have my hdd connected to a ite IT8212 ide slot
[19:53] <usr13> xerxes1358: You can change the KDE menus just as easily as the gnome ones.
[19:54] <sdsheeks> I only disliked KDE when I used gentoo.  Of course after it compiled I liked it :)
[19:54] <gzb> sdsheeks: yep, i saw some workarounds, none worked perfectly but i had to move on before i gave them any real time
[19:54] <graft> xerxes1358: you mean the start menu? I agree the gnome system is much better (though since my gf designed it i'm a bit biased)
[19:54] <alaric_> I need some help
[19:54] <xerxes1358> usr13, true KDE looked very very slick. But are there GNOME copies of the menus? If I have to re configure everything like Gnome then why not just use Gnome??
[19:54] <sdsheeks> gzb: does your laptop have dual headphone jacks?
[19:54] <Neeku> coiuld somebody help me please?
[19:55] <Neeku> sudo hidd --connect 00:12:8A:24:6B:59
[19:55] <Neeku> Can't get device information: Success
[19:55] <xerxes1358> graft, really ? nice.
[19:55] <xerxes1358> graft, what is her name?
[19:55] <conb123> Hi im trying to boot the ubuntu live disc but it always freezes at the same point just as it loads the top and bottom bars i dont know if it is to do with the fact i have my hdd connected to a ite IT8212 ide slot
[19:55] <alaric_> with the 690G amd which run an intergrated mother board
[19:55] <graft> xerxes1358: never mind, i'm sure she wouldn't appreciate my gossiping
[19:55] <illu45> When I load some sites in firefox (digg, ubuntuforums), the fonts are too big. But other sites are fine. Any ideas?
[19:55] <Syxx> i got vmware player on ubuntu 7.10
[19:56] <gzb> sdsheeks: it is a vaio with one headphone socket if that is what you mean
[19:56] <sdsheeks> gzb: okay just curious if was only with the dual jacks or not.  Mine has dual headphone jacks.
[19:56] <imc1> I need to re-detect my monitor settings -how?
[19:57] <xerxes1358> graft, her name would be part / listed in the OS developers. I wanted to google her. interesting that she has developed the menu structure. I think it is very good! Maybe as good as OS X dock
[19:57] <imc1> Suddenly I'm in the world of low-res, no effects from 1024x768 and cool effects
[19:57] <Taco_King> does anyone know what a "fatal error" is?
[19:57] <imc1> little context Taco_King?
[19:58] <Pici> Taco_King: It usually means that the error is so bad that the process that caused it needs to close.
[19:58] <Taco_King> in the terminal, about every 10 seconds i get a message that says fatal error
[19:58] <alaric_> so what do i do I am a virgin at this
[19:58] <gzb> sdsheeks: i got just one but had the same problem, one of the workarounds was to play with the sound levels of the different inputs which worked partly
[19:58] <tarandus> Taco_King: have you upgraded to gutsy a moment ago?
[19:58] <conb123> Hi im trying to boot the ubuntu live disc but it always freezes at the same point just as it loads the top and bottom bars i dont know if it is to do with the fact i have my hdd connected to a ite IT8212 ide slot
[19:58] <zach_> is there anyone the could help?
[19:59] <tarandus> Taco_King: I got something similar when I did that, and it required removing a package
[19:59] <tarandus> Taco_King: I also could not mount all my partitions while it went on
[19:59] <Taco_King> i did upgrade to gusty
[20:00] <tarandus> Taco_King: then it is a known problem, and you just need to remove one package, but I just can't remember what was it called
[20:00] <tarandus> Taco_King: google the error, and I am quite sure you will find some more info
[20:00] <Taco_King> ok, ty
[20:01] <conb123> Hi im trying to boot the ubuntu live disc but it always freezes at the same point just as it loads the top and bottom bars i dont know if it is to do with the fact i have my hdd connected to a ite IT8212 ide slot
[20:02] <erUSUL> !boot
[20:02] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[20:02] <erUSUL> conb123: try some of the boot options sugested on ubotu link page
[20:03] <conb123> Ok ill have a look
[20:03] <Gregmond> conb123: I am no expert, but have you tried to boot the cd with no hdd connected to see if it works ?
[20:03] <conb123> nope why do you think my hard drive may have broke
[20:04] <jabez> hi everybody.
[20:04] <cofff> hey
[20:04] <zach_> penis
[20:05] <Gregmond> conb: no, you raised that as a possibilty. That would be one way to confirm/deny it as the issue
[20:06] <conb123> Does the ubuntu live disc need to read from the hdd in the first stage of startup while loading menus
[20:06] <cofff> yeye
[20:06] <jabez> need some help here. i would like to install the ubuntu to an external hard drive. and only boot up when i plug my ubuntu's usb when the computer start up. is there any tutorial about this? because im quit new in this way.
[20:07] <conb123> Because it probably wont be able to recognize my hard drive it needs some drivers to be loaded but i only have them in inf format
[20:07] <Ruud> Hello
[20:07] <Gregmond> conb123: I think so, but not sure. it should just ignore the hdd if it cant see one.
[20:08] <Thirsteh> conb123, no, it doesn't
[20:08] <Ruud> Can enyone help me with a printer problem?
[20:08] <conb123> Is there a way to load drivers before startup like in windows xp i have th drivers on floppy in inf format
[20:08] <Thirsteh> it does read from it at one point or another but it doesn't need to
[20:08] <Ironfis1> hello all
[20:08] <Taco_King> jabez:what kind of hard drive is it?(read/write speed)
[20:08] <Thirsteh> conb123, why do you need to?
[20:09] <zach_> BALLZSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssssss
[20:09] <tarandus> conb123: if those drivers are for Win XP, then they do not work with linux
[20:09] <conb123> i know
[20:09] <conb123> but i was hoping i could maybe convert them i dont know im a noob
[20:09] <Ruud> please help asked
[20:09] <jabez> Taco_King: Travelstar 80GB usb 2.0
[20:09] <zkjellberg> Question: How do I update compiz fusion?
[20:09] <Thirsteh> conb123, why do you need to access the harddrive before the CD loads?
[20:10] <tarandus> conb123: also, the inf is a description for Win XP about how to set up the drivers, it is not the driver itself
[20:10] <conb123> i dont im just trying to work out what the problem might be it freezes while starting up
[20:10] <Ironfis1> can someone give me a hand, I just made the jump and so far so good, but I'm some problems with ati and 200m vid card
[20:10] <Thirsteh> I'll spare you the trouble and tell you it's not your harddrive
[20:10] <erUSUL> !ati | Ironfis1
[20:10] <ubotu> Ironfis1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:11] <conb123> i checked the disc for problems and it showed none
[20:11] <arno-t> hi can anyone recommend an IMAP server for ubuntu?
[20:11] <conb123> i mean the live disc
[20:11] <Thirsteh> conb123, start it in VGA mode and see what error it spits out
[20:11] <conb123> ok then
[20:12] <conb123> by the way my graphics card is an ati raedon x1950 pro
[20:12] <eQualizer> How do I remove X and everything (Gnome, etc) related to it?
[20:12] <conb123> could it be that
[20:12] <lz1gjd> !fglrx
[20:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:12] <tarandus> conb123: if it is that, then starting in VGA mode will solve it
[20:12] <Thirsteh> conb123, you can't possibly know if you don't boot without the splash and look at the error log
[20:12] <tweetster> need 5on5, low-mid, server off, qry me
[20:13] <tarandus> what's a 5on5?
[20:13] <Thirsteh> tweetster, might wanna not do that inhere
[20:13] <amerio> hey guys
[20:13] <amerio> i cannot seem to create folders in a new paritions I just formatted to ext3
[20:13] <Taco_King> jabez: try this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[20:14] <amerio> I cannot even copy files to it
[20:14] <lz1gjd> could you tell me where to get the latest guide on installing ati 8.02 proprietary driver on gutsy
[20:14] <conb123> ok ill write down the error whats the boot code is it vga=711 on the end
[20:14] <amerio> any help?
[20:14] <kbrooks> question. i want encrypted swap. what do i do? also, what are other ways to secure your swap?
[20:14] <nashk> Hi, I have two ip on an interface, eth1 and eth1:0. When sending out packets, they're returning on the ip assigned to eth1:0. I want them to return to eth1. Any ideas?
[20:15] <Ironfis1> ok that doest quite help me...
[20:15] <jabez> Taco_King: I did, but it not function, it just broken the bootloader from my vista. i just install my vista bood loader back..
[20:16] <conb123> what is the vga mode boot code
[20:16] <m4steR> i'm installing pidgin by source (./configure, make, make install), how can i uninstall it after?
[20:16] <Thirsteh> conb123, it's like the third option in the menu
[20:16] <conb123> oh safe graphics mode
[20:16] <Thirsteh> m4steR, you can't unless it includes an uninstallation program, gotta do it by hand
[20:16] <Thirsteh> conb123, yes that's the one
[20:16] <Aloha> m4steR: there might be a make uninstall in Makefile
[20:16] <akjmicro> hi all
[20:16] <erUSUL> m4steR: use checkinstall
[20:17] <erUSUL> !checkinstall > m4steR
[20:17] <lz1gjd> is it ok to use medibuntu repo to install codecs
[20:17] <Thirsteh> makefiles usually aren't included after the actual installation is done
[20:17] <N256> knight666~
[20:17] <jdknomo> How can I install the sun-java6-sdk package?
[20:17] <m4steR> Aloha, how can I verify it?
[20:17] <killown|away> hi I have card video fx5500 256MB 128bits and agp does not work it   "cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status AGP initialization failed, please check the ouput" can anyone helpme fix it?
[20:17] <Thirsteh> lz1gjd, yes but you probably don't need them, ubuntu-restricted-extras already has most
[20:17] <Aloha> m4steR: see if the files are still there
[20:17] <lz1gjd> ic, thx
[20:18] <N256> KNIGHT666!
[20:18] <Aloha> m4steR: use checkinstall
[20:18] <lz1gjd> and for the latest guide on fglrx ?
[20:18] <Tobias92> Hello ubuntu people. FFmpeg refuses to convert flv to mp4, where can I get a version of ffmpeg that does do this?
[20:18] <jdknomo> Anyone?
[20:18] <ubuntunut> Hey guys, anyone know how ubuntu gets FN keys on a laptop to work in a default gnome install?
[20:18] <Thirsteh> lz1gjd, is something wrong with the Restricted Drivers fglrx? Seems like a hassle
[20:19] <jdknomo> How can I install the sun-java6-sdk package?
[20:19] <lz1gjd> Thirsteh:  well, latest driver seem to support aiglx, compiz-fusion works much faster this way
[20:19] <erUSUL> jdknomo: the same way you install every other package
[20:19] <lz1gjd> (at least in my opinion)
[20:19] <m4steR> Aloha, I did ./configure, than make
[20:19] <erUSUL> !software > jdknomo
[20:19] <m4steR> Aloha, now? checkinstall?
[20:19] <erUSUL> !java > jdknomo
[20:20] <jdknomo> erUSUL: erUSUL E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-sdk
[20:20] <Aloha> m4steR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[20:20] <Itaku> what is a good paintshop for ubuntuuuuuuuuuuu?
[20:20] <tweetster> need 5on5, low-mid, server off, pm me
[20:20] <Thirsteh> lz1gjd, I'd recommend you check out Envy. It's not recommended but it's definitely the 'best' if you want the newest drivers as it pretends to be just a newer version of the Restricted Drivers package: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[20:20] <ubuntunut> Itaku: Gimp.
[20:20] <Thirsteh> Itaku, gimp
[20:20] <Aloha> Itaku: the gimp?
[20:20] <Thirsteh> tweetster, stop :-)
[20:20] <Itaku> ...
[20:20] <erUSUL> jdknomo: do to System>Admin>Software sources check all repos from first tab
[20:20] <Itaku> gimp 3 times
[20:21] <jdknomo> jdknomo: I don't have gui access
[20:21] <jdknomo> err
[20:21] <lz1gjd> Thirsteh: k, thx
[20:21] <jdknomo> erUSUL: I dont' have gui access
[20:21] <Thirsteh> jdknomo, sudo aptitude search sdk
[20:21] <jdknomo> Thirsteh: It's not listed
[20:21] <erUSUL> jdknomo: then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and enable multiverse the file is pretty self explanatory
[20:21] <jabez> is there anyone know how to install and run ubuntu from USB HD? how to make it boot up without install the GRUB to the MBR?
[20:21] <jdknomo> I have enabled multiverse
[20:21] <Thirsteh> jdknomo, enabled all of the repositories?
[20:21] <tweetster> need 5on5, low-mid, server off, qry me
[20:21] <gumis> good evening
[20:22] <Aloha> !best > Itaku
[20:22] <mike16> hey guys i just got a server up and running just they way i want, is there a way to kill the gui so save resources
[20:22] <N256> KNIGHT666!
[20:22] <kbrooks> mikael79, u on ubuntu 7.10?
[20:22] <mike16> yes
[20:22] <erUSUL> jdknomo: !!!! the package is sun-java6-jdk you see jdk not sdk ;)
[20:22] <gumis> gnome freezes when i click System->Quit,  what's wrong?
[20:22] <kbrooks> mikael79, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:23] <lz1gjd> Thirsteh: on the site there is no mention of gutsy ? only breeze and edgy ?
[20:23] <jdknomo> erUSUL: OMG thank you
[20:23] <Thirsteh> mike16, type 'update-rc.d remove gdm -f && /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[20:23] <erUSUL> jdknomo: no problem
[20:23] <jdknomo> I've been trying to figure this out forever
[20:23] <mike16> Thursteh: thanks alot
[20:23] <Thirsteh> lz1gjd, Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 	x86, x86_64
[20:23] <test_> anybody here using a stylus?
[20:23] <Thirsteh> lz1gjd, in "Envy New"
[20:23] <gumis> music from xmms still plays, and i can move cursor, but nothing more
[20:23] <erUSUL> jdknomo: a simple search with apt-cache would have enlighten you  XD
[20:23] <test_> im setting up a new machine and for some reason my stylus does not work after i rotate the screen
[20:23] <jabez> is there anyone know how to install and run ubuntu from USB HD? how to make it boot up without install the GRUB to the MBR?
[20:23] <test_> i have a tablet pc
[20:24] <Aloha> mike16: make it start at a different runlevel
[20:24] <jdknomo> erUSUL: Problem was I was searching for "java sdk" :D
[20:24] <Thirsteh> mike16, that will stop X from automatically starting when you boot the PC. I'd recommend you install Ubuntu Server if you want everything set up nicely
[20:24] <jdknomo> erUSUL: Searched several times :D
[20:24] <mike16> ok
[20:24] <kbrooks> jabez, bookmark this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/11/13/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[20:24] <LimCore> how to render a web page into pdf or ps, from command line?
[20:24] <Thirsteh> mike16, if you want to start X again later, type 'startx' as your normal user
[20:24] <leeping2009> Hi there, is there a way to SSH into a machine using your password as a parameter, rather than typing it in?
[20:25] <Thirsteh> mike16, or 'sudo gdm' if you want the login window
[20:25] <mike16> ok Thirsteb, i really appreciate it
[20:25] <Thirsteh> leeping2009, yes, check out 'man ssh', it's somewhere inthere
[20:25] <leeping2009> Thirsteh: Thanks :)
[20:25] <jabez> ... give me a bread.. :.-(
[20:25] <jabez> is there anyone know how to install and run ubuntu from USB HD? how to make it boot up without install the GRUB to the MBR?
[20:25] <graft> jabez: can you boot from USB directly?
[20:26] <graft> jabez: does your BIOS let you do that?
[20:26] <nashk> I have multiple interfaces that I use, but I want to assign a specific one as teh default. Is there way?
[20:26] <Thirsteh> jabez, why don't you want to install Grub to the MBR? If you want to boot from the USB device you need a bootloader in the MBR of the _USB disk_
[20:27] <jabez> i just install once this morning and it said BRUB Error 21 and make my vista unbootable.
[20:27] <modoc_> What's a good way to do whole drive or partial drive encryption?
[20:27] <knight666> N256: hi <3
[20:27] <jabez> my bios is allow me to boot from USB
[20:27] <rufus> !wireless
[20:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:27] <erUSUL> jabez: maybe www.pendrivelinux.com
[20:27] <N256> !!
[20:27] <Thirsteh> jabez, you boot Vista from your USB drive too?
[20:27] <Thirsteh> jabez, you don't need GRUB in any other harddrive MBR (every one harddrive has a master boot record) than the USB drive
[20:27] <jabez> acrually i just bought a laptop from DELL XPS 1730
[20:28] <knight666> does anyone have any idea why my video (that i'm streaming from my usb harddrive) keeps on jittering and resetting every now and then? :(
[20:28] <gumis>  gnome freezes when i click System->Quit,  what's wrong?
[20:28] <jabez> no i boot and reinstall bacl my vista from the cd back...
[20:30] <jabez> ......
[20:31] <sdsheeks> ....
[20:31] <Thirsteh> jabez, it's hard to understand what you're saying
[20:31] <Thirsteh> Did you install Vista on your USB drive?
[20:32] <jabez> sorry...  :((
[20:32] <jabez> i have my vista in my new laptop.
[20:32] <Thirsteh> And you want Ubuntu on a USB disk?
[20:32] <jabez> yes
[20:32] <jiulio> salve
[20:33] <andy_> kk
[20:33] <Thirsteh> If you install Ubuntu on a drive it will create a bootloader in whatever drive you installed it on's boot record (MBR)
[20:33] <sxp> i want to install goattracker in ubuntu, i have the .tar.gz
[20:34] <Thirsteh> jabez, you need a BIOS capable of booting from a USB drive to successfully boot that
[20:34] <lz1gjd> does any1 know if I could install fglxrx 8.02 with envy, from what I could see the latest version you could install is 8.01
[20:34] <sxp> i was uncompress this, but i don't know how to install
[20:34] <jabez> but, when i boot up my laptop, the GRUB get "ERROR 21"
[20:34] <novato_br> hi, dudes, a friend has mp3 clock. it doesn't working on ubuntu, the dmesg log is http://www.pastebin.ca/910118
[20:34] <jabez> i dont know how to recover it.
[20:34] <novato_br> what's going on ?
[20:34] <nomi1> jabez have you got a live disk
[20:35] <jabez> yes i have the ubuntu live cd
[20:35] <nomi1> you boot a live disk then mount your hard disk as a volume to sort the problem out
[20:35] <nomi1> i don't know exactly how ask somebody else
[20:35] <novato_br> [ 4527.979609] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk / #
[20:35] <novato_br> [ 4527.979688] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[20:35] <novato_br> ops
[20:35] <novato_br> sorry
[20:35] <xubinux> i have xubuntu and i would like tu put a link of my home folder in the top bar..how i can do it???
[20:35] <jabez> how to? im a linux newbie here. after i try it, i like it verymuch.
[20:36] <nomi1> i think the idea is to fsck your system off the live disk and make it bootable again
[20:37] <jabez> what is that?? i dont know... :-x
[20:37] <nomi1> the fsck is the 'filing system check'
[20:37] <nomi1> equivalent to scandisk in windows
[20:37] <jabez> i see..
[20:38] <sterco1> How can I tell which program is attached to (tying up) a port?
[20:38] <nomi1> to mount a drive is to make it visible in your directory tree
[20:39] <jabez> can you tell me the steps how to make it? i dont know much about the linux system and terminal things.
[20:39] <nomi1> as i said i've never done it you will need commands others will tell you there is probably a FAQ
[20:39] <vbabiy> Hey guys does any one know if there is to specify in gnome to auto mount a volume on boot.
[20:39] <hon> how can I modify tooltip settings? (I know where to modify their colors)
[20:39] <rufus> jabez, mount -t ext3 /dev/sdax /mnt/sdax  -replace x with partition number
[20:39] <hon> e.g. when they appear, etc.
[20:40] <vbabiy> you can specify the location for it to be mounted but I can't find something like auto mount
[20:40] <jabez> thanks for your kindness :)) i will search somewhere else :))
[20:40] <xubinux> where can i find second life folder in ubuntu?
[20:40] <jabez> thank you too :))))
[20:40] <sterco1> vbabiy: ot
[20:40] <vbabiy> xubinux: check your home dir
[20:41] <vbabiy> sterco1: ??
[20:41] <sterco1> vbaby: s it's in the mount table, mtab.
[20:41] <Powerking89670> xubuntux try : ~/
[20:41] <Powerking89670> which is your home dir as vbabiy said :p
[20:41] <Powerking89670> just a short cut :p
[20:41] <lama> him anyybody capable debuging gstreamer framework?
[20:41] <lama> s/him/hi/
[20:41] <xubinux> vbabiy: there isn't
[20:42] <vbabiy> sterco1: well I know that but I need to know if there is a way to do it from the qui
[20:42] <vbabiy> gui
[20:42] <N256> KNIGHT666!
[20:42] <vbabiy> xubinux: are you looking at hidden folders
[20:42] <vbabiy> folders that start with a period are hidden
[20:42] <xubinux> vbabiy: no
[20:42] <vbabiy> in the file browser click ctrl+h
[20:42] <sterco1> vbabiy: through the command line? :-)
[20:42] <Powerking89670> xubinux: alt + . if your in dolphin
[20:42] <xubinux> vbabiy: i need the principal not hidden
[20:43] <vbabiy> xubinux: not sure what you mean
[20:43] <vbabiy> xubinux: are you using gnome or KDE
[20:43] <xubinux> i have to copy slvoice files inside
[20:43] <mrr> Is there a recent octave-forge package somewhere? I only find one from March 2006 in the archives.
[20:44] <vbabiy> xubinux: where are these files suppose to go?
[20:44] <Powerking89670> xubinux: okay, it doesnt matter what you need to do atm, we jsut want to help you find it :p, what is your file manager "IE Nautilis(for gnome), Konqueror, or Dolphin?
[20:44] <xubinux> the damn xubuntu menu don't let me cklick with dx on the icons to see the properties...how can i fix it?
[20:44] <Boglizk> Is it possible to reload gnome without closing my applications?
[20:45] <xubinux> xubuntu..i think nautilus
[20:45] <Boglizk> Xubuntu uses Thunar
[20:45] <Boglizk> not tNautilus
[20:45] <xubinux> the original one...second life icon is under games
[20:46] <Powerking89670> you have a working shortcut?
[20:47] <xubinux> yes it works
[20:47] <xubinux> but i can't klik on it with right clik
[20:47] <jdknomo> I just updated /etc/profile .. is there a way to have my current bash shell reread the /etc/profile without having to exit and open a new shell?
[20:47] <Powerking89670> xubinux: gotcha, what exactly are you trying to do? IE, what needs doing :p
[20:48] <xubinux> i need tu find the second life folder to copy inside some files
[20:48] <Powerking89670> xubinux: okay, open your home directory
[20:49] <xubinux> i know ctrl H...but isn't hidden
[20:49] <Newbuntu2> I'm moving my server from gentoo to ubuntu, and I want to add my RAID 5 array. can anyone help me start it back up so I don't lose all my information?
[20:49] <xubinux> i did another time but i forge position...is non hidden
[20:50] <Powerking89670> xubinux: okay, so we've ruled out it being in there, I suggestt checking on the software vendor's site for its default installation directory
[20:50] <Powerking89670> unless you changed it, then it is probably at that location :P
[20:50] <xubinux> where is the folder games?
[20:50] <xubinux> is it there
[20:51] <Newbuntu2> join /carpc
[20:51] <Powerking89670> xubinux: I dont know xubuntu very well, you could  try /join #xubuntu
[20:52] <Odd-rationale> xubinux: /usr/share/games ?
[20:52] <Flare183> xubinux: or /usr/local/games?
[20:52] <RichEd> can anyone tell me if it is possible to reset my video output driver *without* restarting X or a reboot ?
[20:53] <xubinux> Flare183:  BINGOOOO   GREAT
[20:53] <xubinux> THX
[20:53] <Powerking89670> RichEd: if you find out let me know, I need to find out for my sound device :p
[20:53] <Flare183> no problem
[20:53] <xubinux> you rock
[20:53] <Flare183> thanks
[20:54] <danbhfive> RichEd: I don't think there is
[20:54] <Flare183> RichEd: I don't think so either...
[20:54] <RichEd> Powerking89670: after suspend as standalone / resume on docking station my notebook plays video with a blank screen
[20:54] <xubinux> thanx all
[20:54] <Flare183> xubinux: anytime
[20:55] <knoppix> can someone help me
[20:55] <Powerking89670> RichEd: Thats been an issue for a while I think.
[20:55] <Flare183> !ask | knoppix
[20:55] <gumis> nobody knows why me gnome freezes when i try to shutdown computer? :/
[20:55] <Powerking89670> RichEd: at least thats what its almost ALWAYS done for me
[20:55] <ubotu> knoppix: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:55] <RichEd> funny thing is that embedded flash movies still play in firefox
[20:55] <knoppix> i cant mount my IDE drive in knoppix
[20:56] <knoppix> i had no problems before
[20:56] <Powerking89670> RichEd: hehe, at least you get that far; after a standby/hiberate I normally need to restart :p
[20:56] <knoppix> but now i get the "could not determine filesystem type" error
[20:56] <knoppix> (its ntfs )
[20:56] <Flare183> knoppix: no help in #knoppix ?
[20:56] <natlinuxnewb> hi all
[20:57] <Flare183> !hi | natlinuxnewb
[20:57] <ubotu> natlinuxnewb: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:57] <natlinuxnewb> lol flare
[20:57] <Flare183> brb
[20:57] <RichEd> Powerking89670: thanks ...
[20:57] <frold> what is ubuntus ditto to: # ut listall
[20:57] <sdsheeks> I'm looking for advice on a backup solution.  I used norton ghost in windows and would like something similiar that will allow me to recover my entire system should something happen.  Thoughts?
[20:58] <natlinuxnewb> sdsheeks: System image? (i speak without knowledge)
[20:58] <Powerking89670> sdsheeks: put your home folder on a seperate partition, that way if you need to reinstall the OS, you dont lose your files
[20:58] <arooni> help!
[20:58] <arooni> my skype doesnt work :(
[20:58] <xerxes1358> .
[20:58] <arooni> running ubuntu and a sound blaster live value card
[20:58] <sdsheeks> natlinuxnewb: yea something like that
[20:59] <sdsheeks> Powerking89670: i do that already, but I would love to copy the entire disk to an image and burn to DVD :)
[20:59] <danbhfive> !clone | sdsheeks you may find this info useful
[20:59] <ubotu> sdsheeks you may find this info useful: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[20:59] <sdsheeks> Powerking89670: perhaps it is my years of experience with gentoo and hating the thought of having to reinstall.
[20:59] <Powerking89670> sdsheeks: hehe, well I have no idea then :P
[20:59] <ml> hey everyone... I have question I'm trying to boot ubuntu just hangs first bar so I'm trying load recovery to try some command to see get this damn running.. I figure 2 thing not let me boot ubunt my dvd burner and my 4 usb port just hang there when trying detect those 2 thing.. so I remove dvd and i need disable usb boot option
[21:00] <sdsheeks> I thought there was something like "amanda" or something that backed up the entire drive.  I'll do some looking around.  I doubt I'm the first one to request such a utility.
[21:00] <sdsheeks> Oh and BTW oil is > 100$ :(
[21:00] <natlinuxnewb> sdsheeks: Ill leave you in more capable hands than mine :)
[21:00] <Powerking89670> sdsheeks: I'd be surprised if you were; if your still in here when you find out -- let me know
[21:01] <sdsheeks> Powerking89670: I will.
[21:01] <erUSUL> !info partimage | sdsheeks
[21:01] <sdsheeks> natlinuxnewb: any help is nice thanks!  In gentoo I would create a "stage 4"
[21:01] <ubotu> sdsheeks: partimage (source: partimage): backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-17 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[21:01] <sdsheeks> erUSUL: thanks :)
[21:01] <Powerking89670> looks like we found out :D
[21:02] <erUSUL> sdsheeks: no problem
[21:02] <sdsheeks> erUSUL: you do know that I now consider you an expert on the tool and I will come to you for help--should I need it j/k
[21:03] <natlinuxnewb> I have ubuntu 7.10. Ages ago I tried edubuntu. With it came some education software that I would like on this machine as my kids are at that stage now, and need some of it. Is there any way of getting those programs onto here? I've had a quick look in Add/Remove programs but am not happy with the education programs i see on the list.
[21:03] <erUSUL> sdsheeks: i've never used it myself... i have a blind faith on my hard disks XD
[21:03] <sdsheeks> erUSUL: omg i like.  It is even console based!
[21:03] <sdsheeks> erUSUL: oh i've never had one fail, but I feel more comfortable knowing I have a copy of my system.  I used gentoo for years and years and the installs take days.
[21:04] <erUSUL> sdsheeks: i has a curses GUI ;)
[21:04] <sdsheeks> erUSUL: yup i love that
[21:05] <paco_> any knows where to get help on a soundcard multitrack recording in ubuntu (using alsa+jack+ardour) ? I have problems using my soundblaster audigy 2
[21:06] <Wirwing> Hi, i cant get compiz-fusion working on my ubuntu gutsy. Here's my "compiz --replace" shell log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56665/
[21:06] <dyy1> is there any readon i cant ascess my compiz fusion settings?
[21:06] <dyy1> reason
[21:06] <dyy1> it's kinda annoying when it worked last night
[21:06] <arooni> any idea on mkaing skype work
[21:06] <ml> so there no boot option command to disable usb from being install?
[21:06] <natlinuxnewb> oh yes. paco reminded me. My sound is much quieter on ubuntu than on windows with no hardware of sound settings changed. Any reason why?
[21:06] <ml> ?
[21:07] <sdsheeks> erUSUL: good utility, but requires the partion be unmounted.  I was looking for more of a live image tool.  I'll keep looking.
[21:07] <credible> Wirwing: dyy1, please join #compiz-fusion
[21:07] <cosmodad> ml: I know knoppix has one, it's called "nousb". You could try.
[21:07] <natlinuxnewb> *hardware or sound settings changed*
[21:07] <Jouva> Agh. Are there any known work arounds for getting a Dimension E310 to work with the Ubuntu install disk? I read it's an issue with the USB chipset and the only way to get it to work is using an onboard USB card
[21:07] <hunteke> hey hey, linux ram question.  I've got a server running ubuntu.  How do I find out what kind of memory it has?  I see /proc/meminfo, but it has stats, not memory info (like manufacturer and ecc stuff etc.)
[21:07] <theo__> I am now truly fed up with windows
[21:07] <theo__> glad I have these discs now...
[21:08] <natlinuxnewb> hunteke: theres a command lsfn or something. hang on a sec
[21:08] <knoppix> folks whats the best way to recover data from this HD
[21:08] <knoppix> i dont think its seriously messed up but i cant mount it
[21:08] <cosmodad> hunteke: free -m
[21:08] <hunteke> cosmodad: thanks
[21:08] <natlinuxnewb> ok nvm lol
[21:09] <ml> thank you cosmodad, I will try that..
[21:09] <hunteke> nope, that's not what I was looking for either, actually.
[21:09] <cosmodad> knoppix: dd_rescue is made for copying data off damaged disks.
[21:09]  * hunteke looks back to natlinuxnewb
[21:09] <hunteke> :-)
[21:09] <cosmodad> knoppix: oh you said *kind*, sorry.
[21:09] <cosmodad> knoppix: wrong one.
[21:09] <cosmodad> hunteke: : oh you said *kind*, sorry.
[21:09] <hunteke> hehe yep.
[21:09] <cosmodad> hunteke: as in technology?
[21:09] <cosmodad> hm...
[21:09] <hunteke> sure, but also manufacture
[21:10] <hunteke> kind of like what lspci gives
[21:10] <cosmodad> would like to know a Linux tool too.
[21:10] <hunteke> natlinuxnewb: ready to save the day?
[21:10] <natlinuxnewb> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/system-hardware-information-and-run-reports.html
[21:10] <natlinuxnewb> little program
[21:10] <natlinuxnewb> hunteke: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/system-hardware-information-and-run-reports.html
[21:10] <hunteke> ah cool, thanks
[21:11] <faileas> I might be picking up a used dual proc server in the coming weeks. Wondering if i should use the generic kernel, or is there a SMP kernel i should us
[21:11] <ConstyXIV> does isotostick.sh work from a Mac (OSX)?
[21:11] <natlinuxnewb> sorry i dont know that easy other command
[21:11] <Haz> i would like to make my ubuntu comp accessible through My Network Places on Windows, how would I go about doing this?
[21:12] <Flare183> !samba | Haz
[21:12] <ubotu> Haz: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:12] <arooni> once you do sudo apt-get remove skype..... how do i tell ubuntu to get rid of all the files there are still there
[21:12] <arooni> sudo apt-get purge or something?
[21:13] <Flare183> arooni: sudo apt-get remove --purge skype
[21:13] <hunteke> arooni: sudo apt-get remove --purge skype
[21:13] <ConstyXIV> arooni: what do you mean "the files that are still there"?
[21:13] <Flare183> haha
[21:13] <hunteke> :-)
[21:13] <danbhfive> Haz, you may find this link helpful too http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Ubuntu-on-win-network.htm
[21:13] <Haz> 'rite, ty guys. i'll look into them all. :)
[21:13] <arooni> when installing skype beta: dpkg: error processing /tmp/skype-debian_2.0.0.43-1_i386.deb (--install):
[21:13] <arooni>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/skype.png', which is also in package skype-common
[21:13] <arooni> even after running the purge
[21:15] <natlinuxnewb> My sound is much quieter on ubuntu than windows. There are no hardware changes (i.e. nothing is unplugged) and afaik theres no software changes. Any reason for this difference in sound?
[21:15] <faileas> natlinuxnewb: check the volume? ;p
[21:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> how can I backup my gnome session before damaging it?
[21:15] <jhonovich> how can i find memory usage for a specific process? i have the pid
[21:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> jhonovich: use top?
[21:16] <xerxes1358> I have a problem: my External HDD got disconnected accidentally. Now Ubuntu doesnt connect it anymore .What to do >
[21:16] <xerxes1358> ?
[21:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: check dmesg
[21:16] <kbrooks> question
[21:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: open a console and run "tail -f /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages", then connect your disk and see what happens
[21:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: is your disk ntfs?
[21:17] <jhonovich> Le-Chuck_ITA: i have used top and it does not seem to show all processes plus it only shows percentages
[21:17] <xerxes1358> Le-Chuck_ITA, yes
[21:17] <jhonovich> is there a command that reports on a specific process?
[21:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> jhonovich: I don't know but take a look at the ps manpage
[21:18] <natlinuxnewb> fail lol read my thing again. Ill give an example. 1) In Itunes the sound is at halfway. My Home theatre system is at 20/30 = quite loud music. 2) In gxine/Movieplayer/VLC the sound is at max, and I have to turn my theatre system up to max to hear just below talking level.
[21:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: I think you'll have to make a disk check from windows
[21:18] <Pricey> I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy and for some reason my logout dialogue nolonger appears. I press the red quit button, then lose all control, I can't click or alt+tab etc. This is reproducable with and without compiz.
[21:18] <xerxes1358> Le-Chuck_ITA, good I formatted windows away ;)
[21:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> natlinuxnewb: maybe you have some boost control on your card
[21:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> try messing up with the mixer configuration until you can see all of the card controls
[21:19] <natlinuxnewb> realtek 5.1 onboard sound
[21:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> then try all of them randomly :)
[21:19] <hunteke> arooni: if you don't like mucking around with the commandline apt-* packages, you could also think about using synaptic
[21:19] <natlinuxnewb> I've turned all those i can find up as well
[21:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: I understand the point of using ntfs if you carry your drive around but it will not work
[21:19] <tarelerulz> I am try ekiga and It does not seem to pick up my mic.  here my sound card  Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03). It seem to see something .
[21:19] <Le-Chuck_ITA> at least for now I think
[21:20] <mikke> Hello. I have netbooted a client via PXE, started the installation of Ubuntu. But when I have to choose ARCHIVE the installer can't find the source. I think this is because i don't have declared the DNS server. But: If I type in archive information manualy with 130.239.18.137 instead of DNS it wont work. what directory should I continue with? /ubuntu/dists/gutsy/ or what?
[21:20] <xerxes1358> Le-Chuck_ITA, ?
[21:20] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: try to fsck with linux tools and then use ext3 plus a small "FAT" partition (no pun intended) where you put some win tool to access ext3
[21:20] <natlinuxnewb> This is what I mean by no known software changes. I dont have an further ideas on why the sound is different in ubuntu than in windows. Is there a sound booster in windows that ubuntu doesnt use or something?
[21:20] <cicero_b> how do you get all apps to minimize in ubuntu? (windows + d on pc)
[21:21] <xerxes1358> Le-Chuck_ITA, point is I had no space left to move around data on External hd.
[21:21] <Le-Chuck_ITA> natlinuxnewb: do you have other devices in file/devices?
[21:21] <mrtsunami> cicero_b, there should be an icon in the bottom left hand corner that allows you to minimize all open widnows
[21:21] <cicero_b> yup, got it -- there is also a key-combo that i have forgotten
[21:21] <cicero_b> (thanks though)
[21:22] <natlinuxnewb> Le-Chuck_ITA: I dont have a file/devices. Do you mean /dev?
[21:22] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: maybe there are settings for ntfs that can make things more stable. I don't know though :)
[21:22] <soulburner> simple q: can anyone give me the drive eject command in terminal
[21:22] <soulburner> for cd-rom
[21:22] <EADG> eject
[21:22] <natlinuxnewb> soulburner: unfold a paper clip :)
[21:22] <soulburner> isnt it eject /mouth/dvd1 or somethin like that?
[21:22] <mrtsunami> cicero_b, CTRL+ALT+D
[21:22] <soulburner> natlinuxnewb,  noooooooo
[21:23] <soulburner> mouth lmao
[21:23] <Le-Chuck_ITA> nobody knows how to backup gnome session=?
[21:23] <soulburner> mount i mean
[21:23] <mrtsunami> cicero_b, by default, it can be changed to whatever you want in keyboard shortcuts
[21:23] <natlinuxnewb> Le-Chuck_ITA: disk image?
[21:23] <hunteke> soulburner: $ mount
[21:23] <cicero_b> sweet!
[21:23] <cicero_b> (thanks)
[21:23] <hunteke> shows what is currently mounted
[21:23] <xerxes1358> Le-Chuck_ITA, What do you mean the settings of you rmenu etc?
[21:23] <kbrooks> Le-Chuck_ITA, compress the directories ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*
[21:23] <hunteke> then you can see what to eject
[21:23] <simNIX> greeting
[21:24] <natlinuxnewb> Le-Chuck_ITA:  (09:59:09)   danbhfive: !clone | sdsheeks you may find this info useful
[21:24] <Le-Chuck_ITA> xerxes1358: I mean the programs that I can see with all the strange icons in "current session" in the session preferences
[21:24] <jianfei> anyone had any luck running the novell login client on ubuntu, cant get it working
[21:24] <kbrooks> Le-Chuck_ITA, then send elsewhere
[21:24] <kbrooks> >>> Le-Chuck_ITA, compress the directories ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf* <<<
[21:24] <Devourer> Is there a better media player than the Totem Movie player?
[21:24] <xerxes1358> Le-Chuck_ITA, I think GDM mananger had an option to safe your session. mAybe that is what you need.
[21:25] <kbrooks> xerxes1358, its not what he needs
[21:25] <EADG> Devourer: mplayer, vlc.
[21:25] <kbrooks> xerxes1358, so you're wrong
[21:25] <kbrooks> Le-Chuck_ITA, compress the directories ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*
[21:25] <natlinuxnewb> Le-Chuck_ITA: (10:01:30) erUSUL: !info partimage | sdsheeks
[21:25] <sdsheeks> natlinuxnewb: i found "clonezilla"
[21:25] <kbrooks> natlinuxnewb, imaging is OVERKILL
[21:25] <Obelich> hiyas i want to invite to all people living in tijuana mexico visit http://ubuntutj.mx.gs
[21:25] <Devourer> EADG, Thanks.
[21:25] <Le-Chuck_ITA> kbrooks: I am not sure it's there that gnome saves session since $ grep gnome-wm .gnome* -r
[21:25] <Le-Chuck_ITA> shows nothing
[21:25] <sdsheeks> kbrooks: thanks I'll remember that :)
[21:26] <cicero_b> hey -- what is the red line that shows every so often in xchat (goes across the whole app)
[21:26] <sdsheeks> kbrooks: as I restore an image and get back up and running in minutes.
[21:26] <Le-Chuck_ITA> kbrooks: and I have gnome-wm in the session (I can see it now)
[21:26] <kbrooks> sdsheeks, hilightin wrong person
[21:26] <Le-Chuck_ITA> cicero_b: perhaps showing last time your window had focus?
[21:26] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I have it in pidgin :)
[21:27] <sdsheeks> kbrooks: no it was meant for you -> <kbrooks> natlinuxnewb, imaging is OVERKILL
[21:27] <samurailink3> I've got open office and firefox both hanging on a 'wait4(4294967295,  '
[21:27] <kbrooks> sdsheeks, you lost context
[21:27] <samurailink3> Taken from strace
[21:27] <cicero_b> ahh -- that makes sense -- thanks!
[21:27] <sdsheeks> kbrooks: k
[21:27] <kbrooks> sdsheeks, read the above ~20 lines
[21:27] <lavish> hi all! I'm using hardy and I've this problem while upgrading/removing/installing anything: http://rafb.net/p/4KOy3256.html Any idea? Thanks
[21:27] <spinki> jojo
[21:27] <spinki> hi
[21:28] <spinki> were ir gone
[21:28] <cicero_b> o.k. now a hard one: i installed the ubuntu server with LAMP, etc. now i wanted a gui, so i installed the desktop over everything. but it doesn't look like I have access to the apps (i.e. mysql) from the applications menu. how did i screw things up here?
[21:28] <natlinuxnewb> eh
[21:29] <alvarezp> Obelich, have you seen http://www.linuxtj.org?
[21:29] <Le-Chuck_ITA> lavish: ask on #ubuntu+1 but it seems to me that python-apt is broken
[21:29] <Le-Chuck_ITA> download a less recent version and install that
[21:29] <lavish> Le-Chuck_ITA: thanks, I didn't know that chan ;)
[21:30] <Jouva> lavish
[21:30] <Jouva> oh n/m you're in there now :)
[21:30] <natlinuxnewb> General knowledge: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-tweak-ubuntu.html
[21:31] <sdsheeks> brb going to try to image
[21:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> lavish: I am wrong it seems like "python-central" is broken which I suppose is worse :)
[21:32] <comicinker> wie hieß nochmal das tool um von odt oder odf dokumenten eine voransicht in nautilus zu erhalten?
[21:32] <comicinker> oops
[21:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> When I look for linux how-to-do-this-and-thats on the web, I always discover that ubuntu does it different
[21:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> which may be a reason of its success but where the ***** is the .gnome2/session file?
[21:33] <natlinuxnewb> Le-Chuck_ITA: did you read that how to?
[21:33] <lastelement0> hi all i am having trouble getting k9copy to work properly. i just installed it from the repositorie and whenever i have it start processing to ISO i get a SIGSERV error
[21:33] <comicinker> how is the tool called to create thumbnails from odf or odt documents in nautilus?
[21:33] <lavish> Le-Chuck_ITA: seen -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/192992
[21:34] <natlinuxnewb> Le-Chuck_ITA: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-tweak-ubuntu.html I dont know how good it is. but you could try it :)
[21:34] <Le-Chuck_ITA> lavish: great I won't reboot my hardy for a while :) natlinuxnewb: sure I did!
[21:34] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I can't understand that, though
[21:34] <natlinuxnewb> lol ok
[21:34] <kbrooks> Le-Chuck_ITA, it is not necessary, listen. just compress the .gnome .gnome2 andd .gconf directories - the session is there _only if you saved it_
[21:34] <Pricey> !hardy | Le-Chuck_ITA
[21:34] <ubotu> Le-Chuck_ITA: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:34] <kbrooks> Le-Chuck_ITA, you don't need to save it
[21:35] <lastelement0> can someone help me with my issues in regards to k9copy not processing the movie at all?
[21:35] <kbrooks> Le-Chuck_ITA, for the settings. all saving ur session does it make it so that when you login again, your apps start again.
[21:35] <Xclusivos_net> Reeeeeeeeeeee
[21:35]  * Le-Chuck_ITA decided not to backup the damn session
[21:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> cu later
[21:36] <Haz> works great now :)
[21:36] <kbrooks> okay...
[21:36] <Xclusivos_net> instale ubuntu en mi ibook G4 la cosa ke no se como ponerle la X, me baje el mini disco de 15 mb :p de instalacion luego hice un apt-get install gnome-core k packetes mas debo instalarme?
[21:36] <Haz> thanks to those who helped.
[21:36] <Xclusivos_net> ups
[21:36] <clocKwize> hi, how can i get a terminal up in gnome without a gnome-panel
[21:36] <kbrooks> *jumps into the world of an encrypted swap partition*
[21:36] <clocKwize> all i have is the desktop
[21:36] <hw00djohn> so, where are the lulz to be found on IRC?
[21:36] <absalom> Is it possible to install realplayer on gutsy?
[21:37] <kane77> how do I get k3b burn audio cd from mp3?
[21:37] <EADG> clocKwize: alt+F2
[21:37] <Devourer> Something is wrong with my FireFox's XML parser, is that a bug in gusty?
[21:37] <graft> kane77: should be straightforward, what's the hangup?
[21:38] <natlinuxnewb> absalom: http://www.real.com/linux
[21:39] <kane77> graft, Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format.. I remember having to iinstall some mp3 decoder for k3b but I can't find it now in repos..
[21:39] <natlinuxnewb> absalom: http://www.real.com/linux
[21:40] <kane77> graft, found it it is libk3b-mp3
[21:40] <absalom> weird, I cant access my folders from the Places menu, nothing happens when I click them..
[21:40] <natlinuxnewb> Whats a gooc HD partition setup? And how do i change it? I can do this without effecting the content correct?
[21:41] <natlinuxnewb> *good*
[21:42]  * magnetron pokes kbrooks
[21:42] <kbrooks> i have two questions
[21:42] <kbrooks> a) how to setup encrypted swap
[21:43] <cosmodad> kbrooks: a) use dm-crypt.
[21:43] <kbrooks> b) why doesn't 1280x1024 work properly
[21:43] <Waffle> i want to learn some basic programming skills, where would be a good place for me to start? i tried downloading hacketyhack but i couldnt get it to work properly.
[21:43] <natlinuxnewb> kbrooks: this might help some http://damnsmalllinux.org/f/topic-3-26-18667-0.html
[21:44] <magnetron> c) why doesn't kbrooks provide any info about his resolution problem
[21:44] <danbhfive> Waffle: knuth is the man
[21:44] <kbrooks> cosmodad, how? i tried by using crypttab and saying "/dev/mapper/swap        none    swap    sw      0       0"
[21:44] <kbrooks> cosmodad, in /etc/fstab
[21:44] <magnetron> Waffle: "Dive into Python" is a good and freely downloadable book about starting to program in python
[21:44] <cosmodad> kbrooks: you need another entry in /etc/crypttab
[21:44] <artti> i have Xubuntu and computer is still slow.
[21:45] <kbrooks> cosmodad, is this the proper way to setup encrypted swap?
[21:45] <kbrooks> cosmodad, i did
[21:45] <kbrooks> cosmodad, "swap /dev/hda2 /dev/urandom swap"
[21:45] <cosmodad> kbrooks: yeah should work.
[21:45] <kbrooks> cosmodad, how do i test?
[21:45] <cosmodad> kbrooks: what makes you think it's not working?
[21:46] <kbrooks> cosmodad, it boots pretty fast
[21:46] <cosmodad> kbrooks: that's fine with moderately new machines.
[21:46] <kbrooks> cosmodad, and no swap in /dev/mapper
[21:46] <Waffle> magnetron: what program do i use to write python and test it?
[21:47] <patrick75> hi all
[21:47] <kbrooks> cosmodad, hello? there is no swap file in /dev/mapper, only control
[21:47] <magnetron> Waffle: it's called IDLE. install it with add/remove programs
[21:47] <Waffle> danbhfive: as in Donald Knuth the guy from Stanford?
[21:47] <cosmodad> kbrooks: relax, man. I'm not getting paid. :)
[21:47] <patrick75> anyone familiar with installing ubuntu to an external usb drive? going through grub hell here
[21:47] <magnetron> Waffle: knuth is my homeboy!
[21:47] <NET||abuse> Hi guys.. i'm trying to download a file from a newsgroup, tried using gwget, but it doesn't have any login to website with credentials facility,, is the a dl manager for ubuntu that does have something like that?
[21:48] <Waffle> magnetron: i will take that as a yes
[21:48] <magnetron> Waffle: yup
[21:48] <kaneda> having trouble understanding why im losing 70gb of space on my new 500gb hdd
[21:48] <kbrooks> NET||abuse, wget has authenication built in
[21:48] <cosmodad> kbrooks: do this and check if there's a result: sudo dmsetup ls|grep swap
[21:48] <starked> Anybody here know how to get devhelp and sdl to play nice? I see a package in the repo called devhelp-book-sdl, but it says it's only referred to by another package, any ideas?
[21:48] <kbrooks> NET||abuse, _you_ have to give the username and password
[21:48] <CVD-PR> llegue
[21:49] <NET||abuse> kbrooks, tried to get it to login to a site, won't work for me,, maybe i'm doing it wrong.. one sec,, 2 lines is what i am using, i'll give em to you.
[21:49] <kbrooks> kaneda, not hard to explain
[21:49] <faileas> I might be picking up a used dual proc server in the coming weeks. Wondering if i should use the generic kernel, or is there a SMP kernel i should use
[21:49] <kaneda> then pls enlighten me im not a noob
[21:49] <weltschmerz> i'm suddenly having a problem where when i log into X, windows have no borders, and i can't select fields.  my system is basically unusable.  but failsafe is working for me.  i'm using hardy alpha, so i don't expect a great deal of help, but was hoping maybe this is something simply fixable.
[21:49] <kbrooks> kaneda, When a ext3 file system is formatted, Linux reserves 5 percent of the disk space for the "root" user.
[21:49] <natlinuxnewb> which is better? QTParted or GParted?
[21:49] <Pici> !hardy | weltschmerz
[21:50] <ubotu> weltschmerz: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:50] <weltschmerz> thanks.
[21:50] <NET||abuse> so i do "wget --save-cookies cookies.txt --post-data 'username=myusername&password=mypassword' http://www.easynews.com/login/index.phtml; wget --load-cookies cookies.txt http://downloads.easynews.com/e/s1/9823962346873/documentname.pdf
[21:50] <kbrooks> kaneda, you can set it to 0 percent by doing: sudo tune2fs -m 0 /path/to/raw/hdd/file
[21:50] <pineapple> hey, can anyone help me with my graphics drivers?  This is the first time I've used ubuntu and that's the only thing I can't get working properly
[21:51] <kbrooks> kaneda, e.g. /dev/sdd
[21:51] <flipody> pineapple, ati or nvidia?
[21:51] <pineapple> nvidia
[21:51] <kaneda> kbrooks, what conflict would that cause
[21:51] <ConstyXIV> is there any way to find out if your machine has a TPM chip?
[21:51] <kbrooks> kaneda, nothing
[21:51] <patrick75> i'm in the gutsy livecd. any idea how i can get grub to install to the root of the external hd and not my internals?
[21:51] <pineapple> my monitor's native resolution is 1680x1050, but when I set it to that it scrolls vertically and horizontally and refuses to use the nvidia driver, only the vesa
[21:51] <starked> Anybody here know how to get devhelp and sdl to play nice? I see a package in the repo called devhelp-book-sdl, but it says it's only referred to by another package, any ideas?
[21:51] <kaneda> kbrooks, then whats the purpose of reserving the 5% in the first place
[21:52] <pineapple> also it's artifacty and generally looks like butts
[21:52] <kbrooks> kaneda, to *reduce* fragmentation and to help out the system log program if free space, from the perspective of another user, is 0.
[21:53] <kbrooks> kaneda, but latter only applies on oldddddd distributions that you install on your main HDD
 kbrooks: do this and check if there's a result: sudo dmsetup ls|grep swap # no result
[21:54] <kaneda> kbrooks, yeah this is a secondary storage hd
[21:54] <jms> hey - can anyone point me to a guide to setting up the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[21:54] <kaneda> kbrooks, and im pretty much the only one who uses this system anyways
[21:55] <jms> for gutsy
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> pineapple: Usually people forget to supply the monitor settings for vert/horiz refresh and sync and only supply a different sync number like 60 with the screen res
[21:55] <kbrooks> kaneda, and just in case you're concerned - there will ALWAYS be some fragmentation on all oses that get installed to a HDD
[21:55] <cens0red> good moaning.
[21:55] <natlinuxnewb> Why is my windows wobbly?
[21:55] <kbrooks> kaneda, but Linux does not force you to manage it
[21:55] <flipody> pineapple, did you install nvidia drivers?
[21:56] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: you have compiz turned on and the wobbly windows plugin enabled
[21:56] <pineapple> yes I did
[21:56] <pineapple> I used Envy
[21:56] <kbrooks> kaneda, (I assume for, dare I say, system administration simplicity)
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[21:56] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:56] <natlinuxnewb> macogw: its weird
[21:56]  * pineapple sighs
 pineapple: Usually people forget to supply the monitor settings for vert/horiz refresh and sync and only supply a different sync number like 60 with the screen res # uh, i have the same exact problem
[21:56] <kbrooks> i have a ummm
[21:56] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: after using it, i feel like the windows not moving is unnatural :P
[21:57]  * kbrooks grabs vid card data 
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> pineapple: That was where your problems started
[21:57] <patrick75> hmm. no grub gurus at all then?
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: It has nothing to do with the video card
[21:57] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: if you install compizconfig-settins-manager you can customize which plugins are off and on
[21:57] <Waffle> magnetron: How common is python in the programming world? as a junior in high school, I want to go into programming or design in college. What would be a good language for me to learn for that purpose? Or is python still appropriate?
[21:57] <pineapple> I tried that first and it wouldn't download anything, just told me nvidia-glx-new was missing
[21:57] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, what's problematic thwn?
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: Monitor settings
[21:58] <pineapple> I found envy googling for a solution and it actually worked and told me how to download dependencies and such
[21:58] <natlinuxnewb> macogw: I think i did something that turned it on. Something in appearance maybe
[21:58] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, and how do i fix that?
[21:58] <TuxLuv> NE1 know of any command line benchmarks in ubuntu?
[21:58] <kaneda> kbrooks, ok then whats the used 7.5gb for
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: Look up your specs for v/h and put them into the xorg
[21:58] <leeping2008> !clone
[21:58] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[21:58] <jms> apt-get isn't working - the sources.list file needs to be modified. Any help/suggestions?
[21:58] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: you turned on desktop effects
[21:58] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, apparently my monitor is an ati mobile m3
[21:58] <natlinuxnewb> macogw: Yeah i turned on effects in ... you got it
[21:59] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: wobbly windows and desktop cube are the most commonly requested settings, so those are the defaults when you turn on effects
[21:59] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: use ccsm to turn off wobbly windows and keep cube or whatever you want
[21:59] <natlinuxnewb> macogw:  whats  cube?
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: That sounds more like the video card in a laptop than a monitor
[21:59] <magnetron> Waffle: Python is a powerful language that's good for the everyday programming of those small tasks. it's great for learning programming and is the favorite programming language in ubuntu. ;)
[21:59] <Gather> anyone else haveing problems installing kde4 in ubuntu?
[21:59] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, my video card is different
[21:59] <natlinuxnewb> macogw: and whats ccsm?
[21:59] <natlinuxnewb> !ccsm
[21:59] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[22:00] <Waffle> magnetron: great, thanks. What is the most common language for professionals?
[22:00] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, it is " ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)"
[22:00] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:00] <magnetron> Waffle: python is common among professionals too.
[22:00] <Waffle> magnetron: awesome, thanks a lot
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: That is a video card in a laptop not a monitor
[22:01] <Sandking> how to disable alt+rmb menu?
[22:01] <jms2> apt-get isn't working - the sources.list file needs to be modified. Any help/suggestions?
[22:01] <natlinuxnewb> macogw: how do i install ccsm?
[22:01] <magnetron> Waffle: the MOST common would be c++, but i would never recommend anyone without programming experience to start with c++. i study EE at the moment, and i recommend python.
[22:01] <dizs> hi all
[22:01] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, the video card is " ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)" the monitor is ati mobile m3
[22:01] <andy_> hi
[22:01] <natlinuxnewb> !compiz
[22:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: Good luck, need to run...   Find the v/h for the monitor and add that info to the xorg
[22:02] <macogw> natlinuxnewb: add/remove, synaptic, or sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:02] <dizs> can you advice an utility to monitor network connections, please?
[22:02] <andy_> hi my system is locking up on logoff or shutdown and anyone help
[22:02] <Waffle> magnetron: ok hopefully i will be able to work my way up to c++
[22:02] <natlinuxnewb> macogw: Ta
[22:02] <HiisiVonHolten> #ubuntu-fi
[22:02] <magdiwang> hello all, anybody who can help me displaying the list content of an archive archive.tar.gz?
[22:02] <kbrooks> i'm confused
[22:02] <Peng> I changed dhclient.conf. How do I get dhclient to recognize the change?
[22:02] <kbrooks> what *is* an ati mobile m3?
[22:03] <CVD-PR> how i know if firetarter is running?
[22:03] <magnetron> Waffle: a lot of apps in ubuntu are developed in python. the frets on fire game, for instance
[22:04] <nasamo> hello. Does Ubuntu woek with 512 ram:
[22:04] <magnetron> nasamo: yes.
[22:04] <Odd-rationale> nasamo: Yes. usually
[22:04] <andy_> yes
[22:04] <Sandking> nasamo: I had it working with 256
[22:04] <Waffle> magnetron: great. that will be my goal. to write a program
[22:04] <J-_> How well does the audiophile 2496 work with Ubuntu?
[22:04] <nasamo> ok thanks guys
[22:04] <Waffle> nasamo: i am running it with 512 right now
[22:04] <glocked> Salut tout le monde !
[22:04] <patrick75> i'm in the ubuntu livecd. just installed the system to an external usb drive. now i want to install grub to the root of the external and not my internal boot drive
[22:04] <nasamo> does it work fine with all desktop effects?
[22:05] <Sandking> so nobody knows how to disable alt+rmb shortcut?
[22:05] <andy_> that depends on your graphics card
[22:05] <nios> is there any package with all glibc stuff ?
[22:05] <Waffle> nasamo: its a little slow, but it will run everything fine
[22:05] <Waffle> sandking: try going to system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[22:05] <kakei> after dist-upgrade im getting Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gutsy-wallpapers_0.17_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:06] <nasamo> thanks waffle.
[22:06] <CVD-PR> ?
[22:06] <magnetron> Waffle: http://www.diveintopython.org/ has some example that will help you make your first program. the hello world example is classic
[22:06] <Radiergumm1> hello
[22:06] <Sandking> Waffle: I can't find any "mouse click" combinations there
[22:06] <magnetron> Radiergumm1: hey
[22:06] <Radiergumm1> how can i configuyre kaffeine's video pluggins
[22:06] <Waffle> magnetron: i just downloaded that. I am loosely familiar with BASIC, so this shouldnt be too big of a leap
[22:07] <Waffle> Sandking: my bad, that was just a guess
[22:07] <magnetron> Waffle: great
[22:07] <Radiergumm1> i can not watch video on my ubuntu
[22:07] <Radiergumm1> how can i fix it
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> CVD-PR: Check the system monitor and see if the process is running
[22:07] <magnetron> !video > Radiergumm1   (read private message from ubotu)
[22:07] <Sandking> Waffle, if only I could know what's the exact name of the thing that pops up... it makes a pain in the ass while using Blender
[22:07] <cens0red> Waffle enjoy python. I love that language.
[22:08] <xyblor> what's the best way to enable firefox to play flash files?
[22:08] <arreis> does anyone know why gnuplot is really slow, i mean do i need a better cpu or gpu? cause i just got a nvdia Geforce 8600gt and gnuplot keeps being really slow (btw srry about my english)
[22:08] <Waffle> thanks cens0red
[22:08] <gabbath> hi, can anyone help me get started with qt (preferably 4) and kdevelop on ubuntu (preferably kubuntu)?
[22:08] <magnetron> !flash > xyblor
[22:08] <xyblor> !flash
[22:08] <Waffle> sandking: i bet that would be annoying im looking under preferences, but cant find anything
[22:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:08] <CVD-PR> Odd-rationale,  any command to know it?
[22:09] <Odd-rationale> CVD-PR: I'm not running firestarter so I really don't know. Sorry
[22:09] <leeping2008> !automate
[22:09] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[22:09] <Sandking> Waffle: it was in windows settings! ;]
[22:09] <CVD-PR> k
[22:09] <leh> hi, where can a non-admin-user change $PATH for the gnome env?
[22:10] <matthewpoer> I need some help with a small shell script (BASH) that keeps giving me errors... as pasted at http://paste.debian.net/49507
[22:10] <nickrud> leh: you can create the file ~/.gnomerc and change it there
[22:10] <Waffle> sandking: i dont see it...
[22:10] <gabbath> hi, can anyone help me get started with qt (preferably 4) and kdevelop on ubuntu (preferably kubuntu)?
[22:10] <Waffle> sandking: nvm i got it
[22:11] <leh> nickrud: tried that already, ~/.gnomerc contains "source ~/bin/pathmod" but somehow this doesn't work
[22:11] <nickrud> leh: I have PATH=/home/rich/bin:$PATH , and it works fine
[22:12] <leh> nickrud: maybe in gnomerc one can't source... I'll investigate on this... thx :-)
[22:13] <danand> matthewpoer - whats errors does it give??
[22:13] <rinaldi_> hi, when i try to play any video in totem, vlc or mplayer all i see are green and black stripes, whats going on?
[22:13] <TheZealot> Anyone know what to set the 'run action' to so that I can click on .deb files and depackage them in synaptic? I am using crunchbang and it won't let me do it by default...
[22:14] <matthewpoer> for lines 7,11, and 15... "./net.sh: line 7: [: =: unary operator expected"
[22:14] <Pricey> TheZealot, synaptic doesn't install random .deb files.
[22:14] <TheZealot> what is the program in ubuntu that installs .deb files when you click on them?
[22:14] <macogw> TheZealot: gdebi
[22:14] <magnetron> TheZealot: gdebi
[22:14] <matthewpoer> TheZealot - not sure of the GUI program, but you can run dpkg -i pack.deb
[22:15] <TheZealot> oh cool
[22:15] <nasamo> hello. I don't know how to configure mu firestarter. It keeps saying that the eth1 device isn't ready
[22:16] <TheZealot> thanks
[22:16] <natlinuxnewb> !samba
[22:16] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[22:16] <nasamo> anybody?
[22:18] <reikalusikka> which is better, compiz or the other one?
[22:18] <rinaldi1> did anyone have an answer to my question a few minutes ago? i just tried playing a video with compiz turned off and it completely locked up the computer....
[22:19] <natlinuxnewb> I need some help with Samba. Anyone available?
[22:19] <pineapple> k, works now
[22:19] <pineapple> thanks doods
[22:21] <Onyx> Does anyone know of a way to get gedit to use html syntax highlighting for files with a .shtml extension?
[22:21] <danand> natlinuxnewb - what are you trying to do?
[22:22] <anathematic> hi i've got problems with ubuntu 7.10 desktop starting up with console after "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"
[22:22] <cicero_b> i am confused -- i just installed the LAMP ubuntu server and i can't find httpd (??)
[22:22] <nickrud> cicero_b: http root is /var/www if that's what you mean
[22:23] <chazco> Hi... when i leave Nautilus open in a folder with a large (ish... ~30) MP3s in it will eventually crash. First, clicking an icon will result in the blank file icon. Unable to open it. F5 causes a complete loss of folder display. The drive still works (other apps can open the files). Any ideas? killall nautilus fixes it...
[22:23] <zelrikriando> hi nickrud
[22:23] <nickrud> zelrikriando: hi
[22:23] <natlinuxnewb> danand:  I have 2 HDs. One WinXP, this one Ubuntu7.10. AFAIK I have installed Samba. I have successfully got ubuntu to see the WinXP HD, but have not had any luck getting WINxp to see the Ubuntu shares.
[22:23] <cicero_b> nickrud: ok, but where is the executable?
[22:23] <CVD-PR> verytime i want to create a link for everyhting always said "error operation not permited"
[22:24] <nasamo> Hello. I don't know how to configure my firestarter. It keeps saying that the eth1 device isn't ready.
[22:24] <cicero_b> is there anyway to start/configure apache from the applications bar?
[22:24] <nickrud> cicero_b: executable? run  sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start/stop/reload
[22:25] <nickrud> cicero_b: no, no gui control of apache
[22:25] <cicero_b> cool, got it -- you recommend any good tools for gui control?
[22:25] <bruenig> gui for apache?
[22:25] <bruenig> just edit the files....
[22:25] <natlinuxnewb> danand: fyi I got ubuntu to see the Win HD by using the ntfs plugin (i think thats what it was)
[22:25]  * nickrud thinks someone was ruined by xammp
[22:26] <usr13> bruenig: Yes
[22:26] <usr13> bruenig: no and yes
[22:26] <cicero_b> yeah i know you edit the files, but i remember a cool port 80 gui that made it easier
[22:26] <nasamo> can anybody help me with my firestarter problem?
[22:27] <usr13> nasamo: State your problem
[22:28] <danand> natlinuxnewb - Samba is an application that allows you to connect to your linux box and view files etc from a windows machine over a network. ie it is a file server. linux can read ntfs (windows) filesystems but not the other way round. you don't need nfs or samba to view files that are located on different disks on the same machine
[22:28] <nasamo> usr13: it keeps saying that the eth1 isn't ready
[22:29] <natlinuxnewb> danand: How do you mean?
[22:29] <usr13> nasamo: How many NICs do you have in this machine?
[22:29] <CVD-PR> BRB
[22:29] <Onyx> Does anyone know of a way to get gedit to use html syntax highlighting for files with a .shtml extension?
[22:29] <nickrud> cicero_b: I've been hearing about ebox from some clueful people. Haven't tried it myself
[22:29] <danand> natlinuxnewb - are your windows and linux drives on the same machine?
[22:29] <nasamo> usr13: what are NICs?
[22:30] <natlinuxnewb> danand: yes. How do i get windows to see and acces the ubuntu shared drives?
[22:30] <usr13> nasamo: Network Interface Cards
[22:30] <dexem> !ebox | cicero_b
[22:30] <ubotu> cicero_b: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[22:30] <cicero_b> nickrud: thanks i'll look into it -- nothing against a text-editor, but i like life easier
[22:30] <nasamo> usr13: I think I have 2, but i'm not sure. How can I check it:
[22:30] <danand> natlinuxnewb - ok. Not by using samba :). Samba is used so windows machines can access linux boxes over the internet.
[22:31] <usr13> nasamo: ifconfig
[22:31] <nasamo> ?
[22:31] <nasamo> ok
[22:31] <natlinuxnewb> danand: oh. But isnt that what I want as well?
[22:31] <Radiergumm1> can u send me a link about video codecs in ubuntu
[22:31] <usr13> nasamo: Open a terminal and issue command: ifconfig
[22:31] <hdevalence> what package supplies the 'patch' program? I tried searching for it, but I got way too many results..
[22:31] <hw00djohn> Hey, anyone know where to find a good chat here on IRC for laughs?
[22:31] <cicero_b> any thoughts why ebox is better than webmin
[22:31] <cicero_b> ?
[22:31] <soundray> !codec | Radiergumm1
[22:31] <ubotu> Radiergumm1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:31] <nickrud> !webmin | cicero_b
[22:31] <ubotu> cicero_b: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[22:31] <hdevalence> nvm
[22:31] <hdevalence> found it
[22:32] <icanhasadmin> I'm trying to follow the guide found here: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel, one of the commands is "cp /downloads/alsa-* ." and it's coming back with an error. do I need some sort of file i don't have?
[22:32] <seeitcoming> !ebox
[22:32] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[22:32] <hw00djohn> hey prince_jammys, what was that rutebook or whatever you were telling me about earlier?
[22:32] <hw00djohn> !rutebook
[22:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rutebook - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:32] <danand> natlinuxnewb - no. unless you have other windows machines that you want to be able to access your gnu/linux box with. ie by r-clicking my computer and "mapping network drive" in windows.
[22:32] <root_____> hi.
[22:32] <usr13> nasamo: Do you see in the output of ifconfig that you have eth0 and eth1?  Or just eth0?
[22:33] <nasamo> usr13: it show 3 lists
[22:33] <usr13> nasamo: So, you have eth0 eth1 and eth2 ?
[22:33] <usr13> nasamo: Is that correct?
[22:33] <natlinuxnewb> danand: Well i do and will want that as well, but I cant see my ubuntu HD in windows
[22:34] <soundray> nasamo: look in the left column
[22:34] <seeitcoming> how do you hide join/part messages in xchat?
[22:34] <nasamo> it shows like this: eth1:avah     lo     ppp0
[22:34] <Radiergumm1> i delete ubuntu
[22:34] <soundray> Radiergumm1: by accident?
[22:34] <danand> natlinuxnewb - ok. Samba is good :). I know what you want is possible - have you google'd??
[22:34] <ploom> Radiergumm1, go for it
[22:34] <root_____> me in a deep trouble. iam talking from irssi.(dont know how to use it.) i am unable to login to kde. at start up i enter pasword and it doesnt logs me in . it shows the same login window again.  can any one help.....?
[22:35] <Radiergumm1> it gives errors
[22:35] <nasamo> usr13: it shows like this: eth1:avah     lo     ppp0
[22:35] <nickrud> Radiergumm1: you deleted ubuntu, and you now see grub errors while you try to boot windows?
[22:35] <frredzujcxr> Helio
[22:35] <natlinuxnewb> danand:  I've been reading https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently but they arent really talking about what I want to do
[22:35] <usr13> nasamo: Is this machine connected to the internet?  If so, which NIC is connected to the internet?  (eth0 eth1 or eth2)?
[22:35] <Radiergumm1> i dont use windows
[22:36] <Radiergumm1> i used a lot of systems in my pc
[22:36] <natlinuxnewb> danand:  setting up ubuntu to see windows was easy.
[22:36] <Radiergumm1> minix, unix-like systems
[22:36] <ploom> Radiergumm1, ubuntu is free software - that also means that nobody makes you keep it installed if you cant get things done with it.
[22:36] <hw00djohn> 	!wine
[22:36] <root_____> how to fix kde from consol
[22:36] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:36] <Radiergumm1> amateur apls
[22:36] <hw00djohn> !wine
[22:36] <nickrud> Radiergumm1: so, what errors? I had to guess since you didn't say much
[22:36] <soundray> Radiergumm1: you might want to try to ask for help in #ubuntu-de
[22:36] <nasamo> usr13: eth1 is connected
[22:36] <kbrooks> what tool will describe a monitor's capabilities and what the monitor *is* named?
[22:36] <Radiergumm1> i look at to everywhere to video codecs
[22:37] <Radiergumm1> no wehere
[22:37] <usr13> nasamo: And firestarter says that eth1 is not ready?
[22:37] <soundray> Radiergumm1: didn't you get the link that ubotu sent?
[22:37] <danand> natlinuxnewb - wait one .. brb
[22:37] <nasamo> usr13: yes...
[22:37] <kbrooks> what tool will describe a monitor's capabilities and what the monitor *is* named? ddcprobe doesnt help
[22:38] <usr13> nasamo: What type of connection to the internet do you have?
[22:38] <nasamo> usr13: actually, I've tried changing to the others and it gave the same response
[22:38] <ConstyXIV> is there a way to get any .iso to boot from a USB stick?
[22:38] <nasamo> usr13: adsl
[22:38] <soundray> nasamo: what do you want to do with firestarter?
[22:39] <Radiergumm1> i found thehora
[22:39] <hw00djohn> !irc
[22:39] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[22:39] <nasamo> saundtray: I don't kone. I've read its good to have a firewall
[22:39] <hw00djohn> !channels
[22:39] <Radiergumm1> anyway thnx
[22:39] <Radiergumm1> i must learn details in ubuntu
[22:39] <nasamo> saoundray: It keeps saying that my eth isn't ready
[22:40] <soundray> nasamo: you don't need firestarter unless you want to route network traffic for other computers.
[22:40] <soundray> nasamo: ubuntu does not open any network ports by default, so you are safe without configuring the firewall.
[22:41] <usr13> nasamo: soundray Or, unless you need to block ports that you don't want exposed to outside.
[22:41] <natlinuxnewb> danand: I found this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/7040, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-March/110018.html, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/17346, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178845 And although this is useful its still not talking about how to get WinXP to see with read/write access to the ubuntu shares.
[22:41] <nasamo> saoundray: is that to share my internet connection
[22:41] <soundray> nasamo: yes, firestarter is suitable for configuring internet sharing if you don't have a router.
[22:42] <soundray> nasamo: be careful to spell my nick correctly, otherwise I might miss your replies.
[22:42] <luuu> Quelqu'un sait installer une webcam ?
[22:42] <nasamo> soundray: ok, sorry...
[22:42] <jose> Olá boa noite a todos
[22:43] <nasamo> soundray: it there a faster way to write nicks besides tying or pasting
[22:43] <usr13> !spanish
[22:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:43] <luisgmarine_> Anyone mind guiding me to the right spot to improve sound from my speakers?  My laptop is putting out sounds that are way too low.  I know they can go higher.   All speakers are at max.
[22:43] <danand> natlinuxnewb - your filesystem on ubuntu (if you did a default install) is ext3 file system. you can access this from windows using a tool downloadable at http://www.fs-driver.org/. Take a look at this first though ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1126732 ), and read the FAQ on the http://www.fs-driver.org/ page.
[22:43] <alberto> hey guys somebody know how can i get installed 'dvdrecord' ? it doesn't seem to be on repos 'cause when i search for it on synaptic it gives me back 'dvdbackup' instead... thanks..
[22:44] <soundray> nasamo: try typing soun and completing it with the Tab key
[22:44] <usr13> luisgmarine_: Turn up PCM
[22:44] <_Oz_> HALLOOOOOO Ubuntu friends!
[22:44] <soundray> !tab | nasamo
[22:44] <ubotu> nasamo: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:44] <luisgmarine_> usr13: already did that
[22:44] <jose> Algum portugues
[22:44] <nasamo> soundray: besides, I can't find my question mark either
[22:44] <soundray> nasamo: do you have a dialup connection?
[22:44] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn:
[22:44] <luisgmarine_> usr13: but I think I just ran into a fix for it on the forums
[22:44] <usr13> luisgmarine_: very good. :)
[22:45] <soundray> nasamo: brazilian keyboard?
[22:45] <nasamo> soundray: i guess so...
[22:45] <Marti1> luisgmarine_: can you link the fix a friend has a similar issue
[22:45] <soundray> nasamo: I don't know those -- you might find help for that in #ubuntu-br
[22:45] <nasamo> soundray: the configuration is brazilian, but the keyboard isn't
[22:45] <soundray> !br | nasamo
[22:45] <ubotu> nasamo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:45] <kevin__> kevin_121
[22:45] <danand> alberto - do you mean dvdrip instead??
[22:45] <nasamo> soundray: thanks
[22:46] <soundray> nasamo: I see -- in that case, you should just switch to another layout
[22:46] <luisgmarine_> Martil, this is for my specific sound card, but here it is, might be worth a shot
[22:46] <luisgmarine_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695640&highlight=82801H
[22:46] <Maciek> ssaj pyte pedale
[22:46] <jose> obrigado
[22:46] <Maciek> ssaj pyte pedale
[22:46] <soundray> nasamo: System-Preferences-Keyboard
[22:46] <Maciek> ssaj pyte pedale
[22:46] <nasamo> soundray: ok, I'll try that...
[22:46] <Maciek> ssaj pyte pedale
[22:46] <Maciek> ssaj pyte pedale
[22:46] <Maciek> ssaj pyte pedale
[22:46] <FloodBot2> Maciek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <Marti1> luisgmarine_: his is ICH7 family so may be of some help, thanks
[22:48] <luisgmarine_> Martil, awesome this one is ICH8, if anything just type in ICH7 in the forums search box and I'm sure somethign will pop up
[22:48] <alberto> danand: i don't know might be 'cause i'm trying to burn a DVD Project with 'q' DVD-Author and it says to me that dvdrecord is a 'no-found command'... so i don't know if it's the name that the app gives to the command bad 'named'
[22:48] <luisgmarine_> I'm gonna restart, hope this works
[22:48] <natlinuxnewb> danand: I think that is exactly what i need. Thanks. 5 stars. Ill try it and report back if it works.
[22:49] <danand> alberto - sorry alberto you didn't mean dvd-rip - dvdrecord has been replaced by the package dvdrtools - see output of sudo apt-get -s install dvdrecord
[22:50] <danand> natlinuxnewb - cool. :). let us know if it works ok or not! and be sure to read up on it first!
[22:50] <alberto> danand: well thanks a lot... so i should install dvdrtools then... right?
[22:50] <natlinuxnewb> danand: willdo
[22:50] <Darkmystere> err i was trying to boot a partion with VMware yesturday and was unsuccessfull then i tried as root...and i think i jacked somthing up....at first it was saying read only file system...
[22:51] <Darkmystere> now its saying somthing about root somthing...
[22:51] <danand> alberto - yes - give it a try - can't hurt!
[22:51] <Darkmystere> and i also cant find wifi manager thing....i cant connect to the internet wifi-radar has never connected for me either..
[22:51] <alberto> danand: thanks! =b
[22:51] <dolphin_noel> someone knows some good website to i can learn to configure bether the xorg.conf like what modules i shoud load etc etc etc ...
[22:51] <danand> alberto - np
[22:52]  * sdsheeks  bangs his head on his keyboard.  Trying to get my broadcom wireless card to work.
[22:53] <rothchild> how do I get on to freenode when using TOR? I changed my account settings from chat.freenode.net to mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion/ as per here: http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor but seemingly no dice?
[22:53] <darwich> Can anyone help me with my ATI radeon 1950Pro GFX plz ?.. when i activate the driver from ubuntu.. my cooler begins to spin and my GFX begins to get warm .. what can i do to fix it ?
[22:54] <LjL> rothchild: ask in #freenode
[22:55] <darwich> Can anyone help me with my ATI radeon 1950Pro GFX plz ?.. when i activate the driver from ubuntu.. my cooler begins to spin and my GFX begins to get warm .. what can i do to fix it ?
[22:55] <LukeLC> stuff gets warm as you use it?
[22:56] <soulburner> sounds normal to me
[22:56] <darwich> LukeLC: its when im in idle mode .. like on desktop .. or @ login screen .. as soon as i activate the driver
[22:56] <dyy1> how warm?
[22:56] <darwich> dyyl: dunno .. checking by putting finger on it
[22:56] <LukeLC> don't..
[22:56] <aoirthoi1> Ok so I am trying to encourage someone to use ubuntu but they have to use something like dragon naturally speaking..anyone know of a similar product?
[22:57] <darwich> LukeLC: don't ?
[22:57] <dyy1> crossover?
[22:57] <dyy1> you could always try to install crossover and try to run the program
[22:57] <aoirthoi1> dyy1: Well I can run it for them on wine already I think. I am more interested in a FOSS solution
[22:57] <LukeLC> No, you should never touch computer parts as they are running
[22:57] <dyy1> ah
[22:57] <aoirthoi1> dyy1:  so it doesnt have to be Dragon naturally speaking..i just wonder if there is a foss software program that does the same thing
[22:57] <Capital86> Hi guys, can someone help me out with installing object dock on ubuntu 7.10 64bit
[22:58] <LjL> aoirthoi1: there is no complete open source solution
[22:58] <tgm4883> does hardy still use partman for partitioning?  I'm looking at making some custom partioning recipes
[22:58] <ConstyXIV> from a end-user standpoint, is there any difference between icedtea and sun java?
[22:58] <fuffalo> is there a way I can get amarok to rearrange all my music into a better folder/file scheme?
[22:58] <LukeLC> Even sitting idle your card still produce heat from the electricty going through it.. it sounds perfectly normal to me darwich
[22:58] <arreis> hi, does anyone know what can i do to  make gimp  2.0 compatible with cmyk ?
[22:58] <soundray> darwich: graphics cards are notoriously bad at saving power. As soon as you enter 3D mode (by loading the driver), it powers the GPU for 3D mode, even if you only use 2D. There is no load-dependent voltage or frequency stepping for the GPU like there is for CPUs.
[22:59] <PiousMinion> I have a fresh install of ubuntu.   Played with a few themes and now I don't have any desktop icons and right-clicking the desktop does nothing.  Even deleteing the entire contents of my home directory and restarting X didn't work.  Ideas?
[22:59] <mallockilx> I just did a debootstrap, im running xen. I had a spare xen kernel lying around so i have booted the new install. is their a base install script to tidy up my installation as not everything is done/set like hostname network/interfaces etc etc etc.. i.e. where is base-install ?
[22:59] <Marti1> darwich: if its the cooling block on top thats getting hot then dont worry as its meant to draw the heat away from the GPU
[23:00] <Capital86> Hi guys, can someone help me out with installing object dock on ubuntu 7.10 64bit
[23:00] <Drk_Guy> lo
[23:00] <Drk_Guy> #Ubuntu is the most populated channel in Freenode
[23:00] <Drk_Guy> xDDD
[23:00] <jonnymac> can anyone tell me why my USB speakers won't work in VLC & firefox but will work in rhythmbox. Would really appreciate a reply since this is the second week of asking this question and I'm seriously ubuntly challenged :/
[23:00] <Drk_Guy> Usb speakers?
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> lol
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> Never heard of that concept
[23:01] <Marti1> me either so cant help there :(
[23:01] <mallockilx> :( usb speakers have thier own soundcard within the usb.. basically your problem is that you have two sound cards and multiple sound card daemons.
[23:01] <tgm4883> jonnymac, probably need to change the audio device that it is using
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> Maybe alsa got it like a soundcard
[23:01] <PiousMinion> I went against my better judgment and installed ubuntu again.  Waaay too buggy for me. I'm going back to debian. good luck peeps
[23:01] <jonnymac> It's my description of people like me who use Ubuntu because they hate the redmond ones but have no idea what they're doing
[23:01] <mallockilx> I just did a debootstrap, im running xen. I had a spare xen kernel lying around so i have booted the new install. is their a base install script to tidy up my installation as not everything is done/set like hostname network/interfaces etc etc etc.. i.e. where is base-install ?
[23:01] <bdadmin2w> how do I repair a fakeraid?
[23:02] <Capital86> Can anyone help me out?
[23:02] <MercyFallout> Yeah, me too?
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[23:02] <crimsun_> jonnymac: well, there are myriad possibilities
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[23:02] <soundray> !elaborate | Capital86
[23:02] <ubotu> Capital86: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[23:02] <MercyFallout> I'm having problems installing ubuntu.
[23:02] <epax> Do i need to have any antivirus protection on ubuntu if i have windows xp installed on Virtual box?
[23:03] <crimsun_> jonnymac: e.g., your usb audio device is not the default audio device (index 0)
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> jonnymac, which devices does the sound admin list?
[23:03] <Capital86> I want to install object dock but I don't know how. I very new to Linux. I have ubuntu 7.10 64bit
[23:03] <nickrud> epax: no, but you can consider one inside your xp vm
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> epax, no
[23:03] <LjL> epax: not unless your VirtualBox can access the Ubuntu filesystem
[23:03] <jonnymac> USB speakers
[23:03] <jonnymac> I changed the device in the top toolbar
[23:03] <MercyFallout> Rather, I just finished installing ubuntu but when I tried to load up, I get this error "error recieving uevent message: no buffer space available" when it gets to "loading hardware drivers"
[23:04] <epax> LjL: It can't use ubutntu file system and i have installed one antivirus in XP
[23:04] <Drk_Guy> jonnymac, i think you need to config alsa to ignore your pci (?) sound card
[23:04] <crimsun_> jonnymac: neither vlc nor Firefox use GStreamer and thus will not be affected by GNOME's gconf settings
[23:04] <LjL> epax: then there is no reason to install anything.
[23:04] <crimsun_> jonnymac: in that case, you likely want to use the "asoundconf" utility.
[23:04] <Drk_Guy> epax: still you have AVG ;)
[23:04] <MercyFallout> Is there anyway for me to switch back to my standard OS?
[23:04] <soundray> Capital86: it's normally best to install software from ubuntu packages, especially if you're a beginner. Object Dock doesn't come packaged for ubunt at the moment. You could just familiarize yourself with the system as it is, and get to the more advanced stuff (like installing unpackaged software) later
[23:04] <jonnymac> ok I'll prob. be able to find stuff on ALSA on the web
[23:05] <epax> Drk_Guy: I have avg on win
[23:05] <fdsajfdjk> how can i force apt to download multiple files simultaneously?
[23:05] <mallockilx> is thier a baseinstall script like they have in debian?
[23:05] <epax> LjL: So i dont need anything in my ubuntu?
[23:05] <cmueller> i can't wait for xfi's to work finally:/
[23:05] <fdsajfdjk> it would be much faster if it didnt download one at a time, especially when the source is slow for one file
[23:05] <crimsun_> jonnymac: it can be as simple as using "asoundconf list" and choosing the appropriate device to pass to "asoundconf set-default-card"
[23:05] <Drk_Guy> epax, Avg is available for win and lin
[23:05] <nickrud> fdsajfdjk: list more than one on the command line
[23:05] <Drk_Guy> :)
[23:05] <crimsun_> jonnymac: then logging out of GNOME and back in
[23:05] <LjL> epax: ... no?
[23:05] <Pricey> fdsajfdjk, it will download multiple files at once automatically
[23:05] <MercyFallout> Is there a way for me to switch back to my preinstalled OS?
[23:05] <fdsajfdjk> nickrud i just did that, it still did one at a time
[23:05] <epax> LjL: Ok
[23:05] <Capital86> I'm not that big of a noob. I just need to know how.
[23:06] <epax> Drk_Guy: thnx
[23:06] <nickrud> fdsajfdjk: you mean simultaneous downloads then
[23:06] <fdsajfdjk> it always downloads one at time, thus keeping my connection unmaxed
[23:06] <Drk_Guy> for nothing epax
[23:06] <fdsajfdjk> thats what i said nickrud
[23:06] <MercyFallout> >.>
[23:06] <Drk_Guy> Avg is the only antivirus for linux
[23:06] <MercyFallout> <.<
[23:06] <LjL> MercyFallout: do you still have it installed?
[23:06] <Drk_Guy> althought it aint OS
[23:06] <Pricey> Drk_Guy, no it isn't
[23:06] <LjL> MercyFallout: don't spam
[23:06] <Drk_Guy> No?
[23:06] <mindframe->  sudo swapon -a
[23:06] <mindframe-> swapon: /dev/mapper/klx-swap_1: Invalid argument
[23:06] <seeitcoming> Drk_Guy: You mean ClamAV, I assume
[23:06] <mindframe-> what's up with this?
[23:06] <Pricey> Drk_Guy, clamav as an example
[23:06] <MercyFallout> LjL, I have just finished isntalling Ubuntu but it won't let me on Ubuntu.
[23:06] <nickrud> fdsajfdjk: you sure did, I read into your question what I usually hear asked ;)
[23:06] <epax> Drk_Guy: For information about avg that i can use in ubuntu as well... but i'll leave it as it is
[23:06] <Drk_Guy> I mean, real time
[23:06] <MercyFallout> Gives me some kinda error when I try to boot it up.
[23:06] <seeitcoming> MercyFallout: How do you mean?
[23:06] <Drk_Guy> Not only sacn
[23:07] <Drk_Guy> Anyway, gotta go, later guys
[23:07] <soundray> Capital86: have a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=469924
[23:07] <jonnymac> alright will try that, that. Remember to help your local friendly Ubuntly challenged - it's a worthy cause thank you:)
[23:07] <fdsajfdjk> so is there any way to modify apt so that it'll download at least five files simultaneously?
[23:07] <LjL> MercyFallout, if you have instructed the installer to keep your old OS, you should still be able to boot into it from the boot menu (if you don't see a boot menu, press Esc just before Ubuntu starts loading)
[23:08] <Capital86> Thanks for the link. I have compiz fusion already. Does it come with that?
[23:08] <kbrooks> fdsajfdjk, why?
[23:09] <siloko> hi - how do i search within files for a particular string?
[23:09] <kbrooks> brb
[23:09] <fdsajfdjk> kbrooks so that i can max my connection
[23:09] <LjL> fdsajfdjk, the download speed is limited by how much bandwidth there is between the mirror you're downloading from and yourself - not by how many connections you open with that mirror
[23:09] <nickrud> fdsajfdjk: the apt config options are explained in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz , I'm not seeing it there. But I just skimmed it
[23:09] <kbrooks> fdsajfdjk, not sure, but apt does do 2 at times
[23:09] <LjL> siloko: man grep
[23:09] <seeitcoming> siloko: Depends what kind of files. Tracker is good for things in your home directory, but grep is more powerful
[23:10] <kbrooks> fdsajfdjk, unsure how
[23:10] <fdsajfdjk> ljl it would still be faster with simultaneous connections to the same mirror, but even if it didnt, i should be able to do it when there is more than one mirror
[23:10] <fdsajfdjk> nickrud thanks ill check that out
[23:10] <siloko> LjL: with nautilus?
[23:11] <LjL> fdsajfdjk, i really don't see how it would be faster with a single mirror - but yeah, with several it might. however you'd need APT to be smart enough to schedule downloads so that different mirrors are used at any given time
[23:11] <LjL> siloko: no idea
[23:11] <soundray> I've installed Ubuntu Server on a laptop that's too old for X. I want to use it for playing music. The sound works to the extent that the speakers amplify any microphone input, but when I try to play wave or mp3 sounds, it make strange noises instead of playing the sounds. What could be wrong?
[23:11] <__Oz__> HALLOOOOOO Ubuntu friends!
[23:12] <fdsajfdjk> ljl, it does increase speed even with the same mirror. usenet connections to the same server increase speed as connections are increased
[23:12] <hs1> hi, do somebody can run a hg view successfully?
[23:12] <[dcr]> !grub
[23:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:12] <__Oz__> hs1: hg view?  What's that?
[23:12] <LjL> fdsajfdjk: only if the mirror caps connections.
[23:12] <mindframe-> why won't my swap work?  swapon: /dev/mapper/klx-swap_1: Invalid argument
[23:12] <__Oz__> floppies?  People still use those?
[23:13] <hs1> __Oz__:  hg (mercurial) is a distributed CVS, hg view run the gui.
[23:13] <fdsajfdjk> the server doesn't cap, i can get much faster speeds late at night with one connection. during the day i need several to increase the speed to what i would normally get with one connection
[23:13] <__Oz__> Whatever happened to that new standard they tried to introduce a few years ago - a 100mb floppy or somesuch?
[23:13] <__Oz__> hs1: I see. I know nothing about it, but I'll try to help.  What's your problem with it?
[23:13] <Pricey> !ot > __Oz__
[23:13] <__Oz__> dih.j
[23:13] <__Oz__> sigh.
[23:14] <j> z
[23:14] <LjL> fdsajfdjk: that's because the server is maxed out, so bandwidth is spread evenly between all users. making several connections, in those cases, amounts to stealing bandwidth from other users, and you're liable to be banned for that on certain servers.
[23:14] <fdsajfdjk> lol ljl, not the case. all usenet servers cap the number of simultaneous connections
[23:15] <hs1> __Oz__: thanks, it return this error: http://rafb.net/p/8VIAPC52.html
[23:15] <LjL> fdsajfdjk: then, while i do not doubt what you say is true, i see no valid explanation as to why simultaneous connections make things go faster, and i doubt it's applicable to any server anyway
[23:15] <weeman13221> can i get help from somone getting desktop effects in 7.10 to work with an 8800GTS 512mb
[23:16] <root_____> how to reconfigure all the kde from command line. ?
[23:16] <macd> weeman13221, yes, just join #ubuntu-effect :)
[23:16] <macd> err #ubuntu-effects*
[23:16] <ploom> 7.10 hardly need more configuration than just installing the graphics drivers
[23:16] <weeman13221> macd: thanks
[23:16] <ploom> good luck, dear weeman13221
[23:16] <root_____> how to reconfigure all the kde from command line. ?
[23:16] <weeman13221> ploom: danke shone
[23:16] <soundray> root_____: 'mv ~/.kde ~/kde-config-backup' (you need to be logged out of KDE)
[23:17] <fdsajfdjk> ljl yes every server has its own set of rules
[23:17] <root_____> soundray:  i cant. thats the problem
[23:17] <LukeLC> could cp
[23:17] <soundray> root_____: you can't what?
[23:17] <LjL> macd: #compiz-fusion. #ubuntu-effects ceased to exist.
[23:17] <root_____> soundray:  cant start kde
[23:17] <ploom> anyone knowing - could nvidia users now be using desktop effects without memory leaks?
[23:17] <macd> root_____,  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop' or 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdebase-bin'
[23:18] <soundray> root_____: you're not supposed to. Log in on the text console or in failsafe mode and run the mv command as above.
[23:18] <weeman13221> macd: nobody there on the channel suggested, any other ideas?
[23:18] <root_____> thx
[23:18] <macd> LjL, ohh, I wasnt aware, but that makes sense, since its 'official" now
[23:18] <root_____> brb
 macd: #compiz-fusion. #ubuntu-effects ceased to exist.
[23:18] <[dcr]> When I did my dual boot, and I go to my windows partition from the grub menu it just restarts the computer and back to grub i am again, but it loads ubuntu just fine. any help?
[23:18] <ploom> I am asking because I happen to have 7.10 and nvidia geforce 4, and effects do work - but it wont take much time until compiz eats up all my memory
[23:19] <macd> ploom, I dont have a memory leak using the nvidia-glx-new driver.
[23:20] <ploom> macd - will nvidia-glx-new work with geforce4 too?
[23:20] <macd> ploom, no that requires the legacy package, and I do not know the current state of it
[23:20] <ploom> thanks, macd
[23:21] <Chardot> Hey, guys...
[23:21] <root_____> macd:  no use..
[23:21] <root_____> soundray:  sory i missed what you said?
[23:21] <macd> root_____, did you do what soundray siuggested?
[23:21] <weeman13221> anyone any suggestions as to how to get a 8800GTS to work with desktop effects in 7.10
[23:21] <macd> root_____,  <soundray> root_____: 'mv ~/.kde ~/kde-config-backup' (you need to be logged out of KDE)
[23:21] <root_____> macd:  no
[23:21] <__Oz__> nah, weeman
[23:22] <root_____> macd:  how to be logged in
[23:22] <macd> root_____, change your sesion type to failsafe terminal.
[23:22] <root_____> macd:  how
[23:22] <root_____> macd:  oh i got it
[23:22] <macd> root_____, at the login screen, click session, then select failsafe termina.
[23:22] <root_____> macd:  then what?
[23:23] <mssever> root_____: Hit F10 at the login screen and select Session
[23:23] <macd> root_____, 'mv ~/.kde ~/kde-config-backup'
[23:23] <root_____> mssever:  macd  ok. that mv commmand will make a backup?
[23:23] <mssever> root_____: yes
[23:24] <root_____> mssever:  ok then? how to reconfigure
[23:24] <mssever> root_____: mv means move (or rename)
[23:24] <root_____> mssever:  i dont need a backup. iam already screwed
[23:24] <mssever> root_____: I cam in at the middle of the conversation, so I don't know what you're trying to accomplish
[23:24] <__Oz__> root: you're not really screwed yet.  What's the problem?
[23:24] <soundray> root_____: just do it please
[23:24] <macd> root_____, just run the command, then logout and change your session back to KDE, then login.
[23:24] <root_____> mssever:  how to reconfigure then
[23:24] <root_____> mssever:  how to reconfigure then kde
[23:24] <macd> root_____, run the command.
[23:25] <root_____> __Oz__:  i cant use kde.
[23:25] <root_____> __Oz__:  i cant log into it
[23:25]  * macd gives up
[23:25] <mssever> root_____: I suggest the advice the others are giving you. They've seen more of the conversation than I have
[23:26] <root_____> macd:  ok. can yo give that command again. idont knowhow to scrol in irssi
[23:26] <LjL> the underscores are killing me
[23:26] <cmueller> pgup
[23:26] <macd> root_____,  'mv ~/.kde ~/kde-config-backup'
[23:26] <macd> LjL, tell me about it
[23:26] <root_____> thx. brb
[23:26] <prince_jammys> lol
[23:26] <mssever> tab complete :)
[23:27] <LjL> ____macd____ it's like i'm reading an unfilled form
[23:27] <Nibblyn> !netbeans
[23:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:27] <LinuxJuggalo> !coffee
[23:27] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[23:27] <prince_jammys> ha
[23:27] <Nibblyn> ;)
[23:27] <mssever> !java
[23:27] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[23:27] <mssever> no fun :(
[23:28] <ploom> mssever, whats wrong?
[23:28] <ConstyXIV> what's worse on your eyes, a LCD or CRT?
[23:28] <mssever> ploom: ??
[23:28] <mssever> ConstyXIV: I prefer LCD
[23:28] <LinuxJuggalo> ConstyXIV a CRT
[23:28] <joecurlee_> hi all, i'm trying to get my pctv hd pci (800i) video capture card working... i went through the firmware extraction, installed the drivers and it seems to be fully recognized. tried using motv to view video and after channel scan only one channel was barely found (looked like total crap)... any suggestions on how to make this work?
[23:29] <joecurlee_> the ultimate goal is mythtv, but i can't get any video there at all... not even the bad signal channel mentioned above
[23:29] <ploom> ConstyXIV, depends on point of view - just dont hurt your eyes - 15 minute bread once in an hour is recommended anyways
[23:29] <ploom> bread = break
[23:29] <prince_jammys> i wonder what root_________________________________'s file names look like
[23:30] <mssever> ConstyXIV: The refresh rate that many CRTs operate at causes a noticable flicker (for me, at least)
[23:30] <cmueller> crack refresh up to 75 and the flicker generally wont be noticeable
[23:31] <mssever> prince_jammys: Good thing he/she isn't using 8.3 DOS
[23:31] <prince_jammys> :)
[23:31] <prince_jammys> mv ______&@###!/\    )))_____
[23:31] <weeman13221> anyone any suggestions as to how to get a 8800GTS to work with desktop effects in 7.10
[23:31] <mssever> cmueller: I once burned a CRT out by setting the refresh rate too high for the monitor...
[23:31] <smelroy> does anyone in here have an NTFS partition that they access? Whenever I copy a file to an NTFS partition the resulting copied file has the modified date set to right then instead of the real modified date of the file, are there any known work arounds or bugs reports I can vote on for this?
[23:32] <Nibblyn> so... maybe someone knows when will netbeans be available from the repos? thanks... :)
[23:32] <soundray> Can I have a sound hint please? Input and output work (I hear microphone input through the speakers), but sound files don't play (tried mpg321 file.mp3 and bplay file.wav)
[23:32] <Nibblyn> netbeans 6.0
[23:32] <natlinuxnewb> Just thought id report in and say a big thank you to this community. Because of you I am now able to log into either WinXP or ubuntu, communicate with both HD's and can now proceed to back up my winxp files and reformat everything!
[23:32] <cmueller> when you reinstall xp, it will clobber yoru boot loader most likely
[23:33] <prince_jammys> natlinuxnewb good
[23:33] <natlinuxnewb> xp doesnt have the bootloader. And after I install winxp again I'll make a system image so that i never have to do that again. :)
[23:34] <mssever> Nibblyn: Have you looked in the Hardy repos? If it isn't there, a backport isn't too likely. Maybe you can backport it yourself from Debian.
[23:34] <root_____> macd:  cant login by failsave either
[23:35] <Nibblyn> mssever: huh, thanks for the answer
[23:35] <mssever> root_____: What error message do you get?
[23:35] <soundray> It goes through the motions, mpg321 -v even showing the progress -- but all I hear is a faint noise. alsamixer settings are all up, and they do have an effect on the noise.
[23:36] <mssever> soundray: Is it like the volume is too low, or are you just getting noise?
[23:36] <__Oz__> I hear of this problem a *lot*, soundray.  Have you searched the ubuntu docs?
[23:37] <__Oz__> (I say, I hear of...  pun intended!)
[23:37] <soundray> mssever: I'm getting noise, and its loudness varies with the volume and pcm settings
[23:37] <natlinuxnewb> soundray: I'm having a similar prob. Sound on winxp is far louder than my sound on ubuntu. I have to turn my ubuntu sound settings and volume up to max, AND my stereo system as well.
[23:37] <root_____> macd: mssever  __Oz__  i just cant. i pres enter after pwd. the same screen comes again. and askes login.  when i type startx. i see some font problem in x11 folder. when i start irssi without sudo. i see . cant cread a .file  . i think in home folder.   last time there was a msg in kde. unable to lauch klauncher. no app was opening. and some dcop error too.
[23:37] <__Oz__> Lots of people seem to have problems with low volume/distortion in ubuntu.
[23:37] <__Oz__> root: might want to reinstall
[23:37] <root_____> __Oz__:  how
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> root_____: Have you messed with file permisions lately?
[23:38] <root_____> Odd-rationale:  dont know. but i gues may be
[23:38] <__Oz__> Oz: using the LiveCD
[23:38] <mssever> root_____: If you hit <Ctrl><Alt>F1, you'll drop to a console. If you can't log in from there, try booting into recovery mode. If you still can't get in, a reinstall might indeed be in order.
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> root_____: Can you boot in recovery mode?
[23:38] <weeman13221> anyone any suggestions as to how to get a 8800GTS to work with desktop effects in 7.10?
[23:39] <root_____> Odd-rationale:  yes
[23:39] <__Oz__> er root
[23:39] <root_____> mssever:  ok. how to reinstall. i dont wana loose my data
[23:39] <Odd-rationale> root_____: Can you log in tty1 like mssever said?
[23:39] <mssever> root_____: Then boot into recovery mode, rename ~/.kde, and try again.
[23:39] <__Oz__> yeah, try recovery mode, root________
[23:39] <root_____> Odd-rationale:  ya. ican pres ctl alt and f2
[23:40] <mssever> root_____: By try again, I don't mean startx
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> root_____: Can you log in there?
[23:40] <root_____> mssever:  i should do that now
[23:40] <root_____> Odd-rationale:  yes
[23:40] <root_____> Odd-rationale: mssever ya. ican pres ctl alt and f2 and start a new concol. but not kde
[23:40] <root_____> Odd-rationale: mssever what now?
[23:41] <mssever> root_____: HAve you already renamed ~/.kde?
[23:41] <root_____> mssever:  no
[23:41] <root_____> should it?
[23:41] <__Oz__> It sounds like he's logging into a session that's badly messed up
[23:41] <rotzak> Hey I'm wanting to give KDE4 a shot. I try to do a sudo apt-get install kde4 and I get this error: http://rafb.net/p/sytJrb50.html please advise?
[23:41] <root_____> mssever:  wait. let me
[23:41] <__Oz__> try the default gnome desktop, root________________
[23:41] <mssever> root_____: That's the first thing to try
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> root_____: You can try mssever suggestion. do: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.bak
[23:41] <root_____> Odd-rationale ok brb. mssever  brb
[23:42] <N86eAL> Installing Ubuntu on a 200GB Sata disc. Can't do more than 4 partitions?
[23:42] <mssever> N86eAL: You have to create an extended partition, then put the additional partitions there
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> N86eAL: Note you can only have one extended/logical partition
[23:43] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  i typed the command. no output
[23:44] <mssever> root_____: OK. Now, try logging in again.
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> root_____: Did you return to a prompt?
[23:44] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  mv ~/.kde ~/kde-confi-backup       right?
[23:44] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  then i styped startx . but no use
[23:44] <wavy__> hey can anyone help me my computer seems to be stuck in a loop where the processor usage is full and nothing can be launched.
[23:44] <mssever> root_____: That works.
[23:45] <mssever> root_____: You don't want to use startx
[23:45] <Sandra24> On windows I often use telnet to connect to a port just to see if there is indeed a server listening there. How can I do this on linux?
[23:45] <Marti1> wavy__: can you can open a terminal and type "top"
[23:45] <Odd-rationale> root_____: Try reboot and log in normally
[23:45] <mssever> root_____: Use the normal login method (GDM/KDM)
[23:45] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  ok
[23:45] <root_____> brb
[23:45] <mssever> Sandra24: type telnet host port
[23:45] <Thirsteh> Sandra24: You could do the exact same thing
[23:45] <wavy__> Martil, i cant even open a terminal
[23:45] <soundray> mssever, natlinuxnewb, __Oz__: thanks guys, still trying...
[23:45] <Sandra24> doesn't exist, but I can install it then?
[23:45] <Odd-rationale> BTW, how is he able to chat but not log in? :?
[23:46] <dan__> Hello There. Been looking at the hardy blueprints. Is the new theme still going ahead, i thought it read somewhere that it was postponed till 8.10. Or are the blueprints a little behind? thanks
[23:46] <Thirsteh> Sandra24: telnet, yes
[23:46] <mssever> Sandra24: Well, sudo aptitude install telnet, I guess
[23:46] <Marti1> wavy__: and this problem persists after rebooting?
[23:46] <Sandra24> thanks
[23:46] <prince_jammys> no telnet? strange
[23:46] <mssever> Sandra24: I use it all the time when doing web troubleshooting
[23:46] <natlinuxnewb> bbs
[23:46] <mssever> !hardy > dan__
[23:47] <wavy__> Martil, yes, but it only appears sometimes and wont appear other times
[23:48] <wavy__> Martil, and i noticed that in the console i can run normal commands but not the ones that require me to be root
[23:48] <soundray> I have a slider in alsamixer called Hardware Master, and it's frozen at 97. Could that have something to do with my sound playing problem? (Only hearing noise when playing a file, although it appears to work...)
[23:48] <mssever> wavy__: You mean that sudo is broken?
[23:49] <wavy__> mssever, yeah it would just freeze when i try anything with sudo
[23:49] <mssever> wavy__: Odd.
[23:49] <__Oz__> feh
[23:49] <mssever> wavy__: HAve you tried adding a root password and doing things the old fashioned way?
[23:50] <weeman13221> anyone any suggestions as to how to get a 8800GTS to work with desktop effects in 7.10?
[23:50] <wavy__> mssever, no, how would i go about doing that?
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> mssever: Do you need sudo to set a root passwd?
[23:50] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: Installing the restricted nvidia drivers doesn't work?
[23:50] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  cant login .. and when i typed locate kde-config-backup   there was no result
[23:50] <mssever> wavy__: Since you can't sudo, you'll probably have to boot into recovery mode. Then do passwd root
[23:50] <prince_jammys> wavy__: no error message? just freezes?    sudo echo hello
[23:51] <willwork4foo> Odd-rationale: if you really need to set a root password (there's no real need to in Ubuntu, as you already have sudo access)... then do passwd root
[23:51] <weeman13221> warriorforgod: when i go into the restricted drivers manager it says i dont need a restricted driver
[23:51] <willwork4foo> dammit - mssever beat me to it
[23:51] <willwork4foo> Hi all, by the wayt
[23:51] <mssever> hi, willwork4foo
[23:51] <wavy__> prince_jammys, it would just go to the next line and freeze, no messages
[23:51] <mssever> root_____: What error did you get?
[23:51] <__Oz__> what does "gksudo" mean vs. "sudo"?
[23:51] <weeman13221> warriorforgod: im using a freshly installed and freshly updated 7.10
[23:51] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: invokes sudo in GUI context
[23:51] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  should i make a system update by apt ? will that solf
[23:51] <root_____> mssever:  no error
[23:51] <wavy__> mssever, ive tried that but it didn't make any difference
[23:51] <mssever> __Oz__: gksudo is for GUIs, sudo is for CLI
[23:52] <__Oz__> hmm
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> willwork4foo: Yes, I know root passwd is not necesary in ubuntu. I just thought you needed sudo which he was having trouble with...
[23:52] <Marti1> root_ have you run sudo updatedb
[23:52] <__Oz__> so you can run gedit from the gui by creating a launcher with the command "gksudo gedit"
[23:52] <__Oz__> ?
[23:52] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: sudo apt-get blahblah,   gksudo gedit, gksudo totem etc
[23:52] <mssever> root_____: Look in ~/.xsession-errors and see if there's anything interesting in there.
[23:53] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: or kdesudo on kde
[23:53] <alex___> ok, my startup is hanging at "running local boot script" and yes i reconfigured my x server but its still not working.
[23:53] <willwork4foo> Odd-rationale: fairy nuff
[23:53] <root_____> k
[23:53] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: Try the following.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new and sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[23:53] <root_____> mssever:  how to open that
[23:53] <mssever> alex___: Can you boot into recovery mode?
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> root_____: use nano
[23:53] <root_____> Odd-rationale:  ok
[23:53] <mssever> root_____: from a terminal, type less ~/.xsession-errors
[23:53] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: Also try installing Envy
[23:54] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: If the first suggestion doesn't work.
[23:54] <__Oz__> I don't totally get what why you'd need something different for GUI use.
[23:54] <prince_jammys> !envy
[23:54] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:54] <mssever> __Oz__: because sudo prompts on stdout. If you're running a GUI, there is no stdout
[23:54] <weeman13221> warriorforgod: so if not the first one do sudo apt-get install envy?
[23:54] <__Oz__> stdout?
[23:54] <mssever> __Oz__: If you're in CLI, you don't want some window popping up
[23:54] <warriorforgod> prince_jammys: He stated that the restricted driver manager is not letting him install the nvidia drivers.
[23:55] <fdsajfdjk> ubuntu should just support envy so people in here dont have to keep saying dont use it
[23:55] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  that file is empty
[23:55] <root_____> mssever:  Odd-rationale  no other user account is working too
[23:55] <__Oz__> CLI?
[23:55] <fdsajfdjk> warriorforgod probably because he doesnt have the propreitary repository enabled
[23:55] <willwork4foo>  Hey  - does anyone here use kiba-dock? I've been messing around with it, and if it were actually possible to marry a software program I think I'd happily do so, and cuddle it all night :) There's only one niggling thing.... does anyone here know how to get it to do that progressive zoom of icons surrounding the one the mouse is on, as well as just that one? (kinda the way it does on OSX)
[23:55] <__Oz__> what is stdout and CLI?
[23:55] <fdsajfdjk> warriorforgod nice id, its good to see intelligent people following the lord
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: CLI == Command Line Interface
[23:55] <willwork4foo> __Oz__, is that a joke?
[23:56] <warriorforgod> fdsajfdjk: When did they make that change.  I have never had to enable the restricted repository.
[23:56] <mssever> root_____: Well, it sounds lke your install (possibly X) is borked. Unless you know what you're doing, the best thing is to back up /home and reinstall
[23:56] <soundray> fdsajfdjk: it doesn't work that way. A distribution can't support software that contravenes its design.
[23:56] <Odd-rationale> __Oz__: VS, GUI == Graphical User Interface
[23:56] <levander> I found the "Shared Folders" dialog that lets you export directories over the network.  Is there another dialog that lets you mount directories from the network?  Or, do we still have to edit fstab by hand for that?
[23:56] <root_____> mssever:  how to reinstall? (i dont wana loose apps i installed)
[23:56] <mssever> __Oz__: stdout is where CLI programs print prompts and such
[23:56] <willwork4foo> stdout = the standard output stream configured on a  program - it could be either a printer, or the screen (normal), or it could be a network port, or a serial port, or anything really... everything's a file anyway
[23:56] <fdsajfdjk> hm, to install proprietary nvidia drivers i always have to enable certain repositories, maybe thats just me
[23:56] <__Oz__> willwork4foo: no joke.
[23:57] <root_____> mssever:  what do you mean. reinstall kubuntu. or reinstall kde or reinstall x?
[23:57] <mssever> root_____: You'll have to make a list of what you installed (hopefully you only installed from the repos) and keep it
[23:57] <soundray> fdsajfdjk: yeah, that's just you. Normally, proprietary drivers are installed through System-Administration-Restricted Drivers Manager
[23:57] <alex___> how do i boot in recovery mode
[23:57] <weeman13221> warriorforgod: ok so it didnt work so how do i install envy?
[23:57] <natlinuxnewb> what prog can i use that is both Win and Ubuntu compatible to export all thunderbird settings and mail from winxp to ubuntu? I used Mozbackup but found out there is no Linux version.
[23:58] <__Oz__> thanks, mssever and odd-rationale
[23:58] <mssever> root_____: You should Google for help on reinstalling... It's too much to type here
[23:58] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: Did it give an error or anything?
[23:58] <mssever> !reinstall | root_____
[23:58] <ubotu> root_____: To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[23:58] <Odd-rationale> alex___: You should choose "recovery mode" from the GRUB menu
[23:58] <soundray> weeman13221: whatever you do, don't install envy please. If you do, don't expect help from this channel.
[23:58] <weeman13221> soundray: one moment
[23:58] <Odd-rationale> alex___: Press Esc when grub is loading to get to the grub menu
[23:58] <mssever> root_____: I mean reinstall Ubuntu
[23:58] <natlinuxnewb> !envy
[23:58] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:58] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: You will probably have to restart X to get the new drivers to work.  Also have you tried installing the binary drivers from nvidias site?
[23:58] <weeman13221> soundray: need to restart x
[23:58] <fdsajfdjk> yeah theres definitely no reason to install envy.
[23:59] <root_____> mssever:  how about just reinstalling kde?
[23:59] <mssever> root_____: You could try, but I seriously doubt it will accomplish anything
[23:59] <weeman13221> warriorforgod: i tried nvidia's drivers on last install of 7.10 didnt work but one sec to restart x i just logout log back in correct?
[23:59] <mssever> root_____: It appears that KDE is just fine
[23:59] <alex___> msssever: im in recovery mode, what can be done here?
[23:59] <root_____> mssever:  why so. it the problem is in kde. reinstalling it will solve?
[23:59] <danbhfive> what's the name of that irissi irc client?  Im misspelling it I think
[23:59] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: You can hit CTRL+ALT+BKSPCE to restart X