[01:08] <Panamaquono> xubuntu support channel?
[01:09] <Panamaquono> I have a sound card issue
[01:10] <Panamaquono> I have an Ensoniq ES1371 audio controller, I went through the wonderful online alsa stuff to get it setup - it worked great, I can listen through my headphones
[01:11] <Panamaquono> but, I have a set of Speakers that works with a digital plug
[01:12] <Panamaquono> I found another forum for the speakers for a guy running windows and there's some way to go into windows settings to output a digital signal
[01:12] <Panamaquono> obviously there's some way to do that in xubuntu?
[01:13] <Panamaquono> his exact words:  "Click on Advanced. Once here, you will notice Tone Controls to adjust the Bass and Treble, and below these, you will see "Digital Output Only." Click on the little white box next to "Digital Output Only" to put a check mark in there. Hit close. Make sure that your Main and Wave audio levels in the volume settings are high enough to hear something (I suggest at least half volume, or highest volume for testing pu
[01:13] <Panamaquono> but that's windoz
[01:15] <Panamaquono> what'd I miss
[01:15] <Panamaquono> I know it's a hard one
[01:15] <Panamaquono> the alsa mixer didn't seem to have this setting
[01:16] <Panamaquono> sound card works great
[01:16] <Panamaquono> am I the only one here?
[01:17] <crimsun_> yes.
[01:17] <crimsun_> and unless those controls are exposed in the driver, you can't use them.
[01:18] <Panamaquono> sorry to pull you away
[01:19] <Panamaquono> if they're exposed?  as in?
[01:19] <Panamaquono> don't know exposed
[01:19] <Panamaquono> like a part of the gui?
[01:19] <Panamaquono> is the driver supposed to have some sort of user interface
[01:20] <Panamaquono> or is that handled in terminal?
[01:21] <Panamaquono> just a hint
[01:21] <crimsun_> exposed->viewable from a mixer.
[01:21] <Panamaquono> c'mon
[01:21] <crimsun_> e.g., amixer, alsamixer, aumix, etc.
[01:21] <Panamaquono> ah
[01:21] <Panamaquono> so I should try a different mixer?
[01:21] <crimsun_> if amixer doesn't list them, you're out of luck.
[01:21] <Panamaquono> ok I only have alsamixer
[01:22] <crimsun_> I doubt that.
[01:22] <Panamaquono> crap, where's amixer
[01:22] <crimsun_> "amixer"
[01:26] <Panamaquono> ok I got a long list, but I'm not even sure what I'm looking at, it looks like I can do all kinds of stuff including record
[01:27] <Panamaquono> and one in particular seems out - PCM - is that it?
[01:45] <Doogal> *Fairly* large issue. My Desktop environment is completely blank. No panels, no icons, nothing. I can still run programs i know the name of, using the altF2 box. But it's a pretty major issue for enjoying my computer properly.
[01:47] <Panamaquono> you win
[01:48] <Doogal> I do?
[01:48] <Doogal> Is there a fluffy prize? :)
[01:56]  * Doogal reposts, just in case.
[01:56] <Doogal> *Fairly* large issue. My Desktop environment is completely blank. No panels, no icons, nothing. I can still run programs i know the name of, using the altF2 box. But it's a pretty major issue for enjoying my computer properly.
[01:57] <Doogal> Does anyone have some advice?
[01:57] <soldats> zoredache: i wanted to say thanks. i copmpletely forgot about the mini.iso install so i installed and im pretty much satisfied. just a few more apps and ill be set. thanks again  :D
[01:58] <soldats> Doogal: try doing alt-f2 and typing xfce4-panel
[01:59] <soldats> save your settings on logout and log back in and see if its normal. you need the desktoppp seetings box to tell it to do what youwant
[02:00] <soldats> set the "allow xfce to manage desktop" and make sure you save settings Doogal
[02:03] <Doogal> soldats: thanks. I've tried restarting the computer several times, even did a complete power down and unplug. Its persistent.
[02:03] <soldats> did you restart or did you run the commands i said then restart
[02:03] <Doogal> soldats: I'm afraid i'm very new to linux at all. How would I get to the 'desktop settings box'
[02:04] <Doogal> soldats: no, not entered those commands yet.
[02:05] <Doogal> I would normally get to desktop settings through a drop-down on the top panel, or a right-click on the desktop. How can i get them up otherwise?
[02:05] <Doogal> I'm happy to work in BaSH if that's easier, but I'd need a lot of guidance.
[02:05] <soldats> Doogal: first do alt+f2 and type "xfce4-panel" and you should get your panels back. then in your panel go to settings >> desktop settings and choose save setings on logout and choose "allow xfce to manage desktop"
[02:09] <Doogal> Wow. That was easy. At least the first part. I've got the desktop back but i didn't see a save settings option.
[02:12] <soldats> its either in desktop settings or desktop preferences
[02:12] <soldats> just look around in the settings drop down menu
[02:13] <brianko> so why does my new 7.10 install have a "washed out" look?  Every theme seems to have the same look...
[02:16] <soldats> the themes only change icons and borders and basic fonts. you can configure everything else however youwant. just have a look through google.
[02:17] <brianko> I seem to recall xfce of past having a decent look on the stock install...
[02:22] <Doogal> soldats: Thanks for the help by the way. "Save settings on logout" Seems to be something that appears on the shut-down menu.
[02:23] <Doogal> It survived a log-out and a log-in.
[02:24] <Panamaquono> hey I do have a digital out, how can I make it work?
[02:24] <Panamaquono> used the aplay -l
[02:24] <Panamaquono> got a list
[02:25] <Panamaquono> 0,1 is digital audio playback
[02:25] <Panamaquono> not the same guy
[02:25] <Panamaquono> nuts
[02:25] <Panamaquono> hello sir
[02:26] <Panamaquono> I come humbly before you
[02:26] <Panamaquono> please help, have sound card ES1371
[02:26] <Panamaquono> have digital speakers
[02:26] <Panamaquono> can't make digital output to speakers
[02:27] <Panamaquono> have new drivers
[02:27] <Panamaquono> soundcards works through headphones great
[02:27] <Panamaquono> not through digital speakers
[02:29] <Panamaquono> I found an article about my actual soundcard where if I had windows there's a output setting where I specify "Digital Output Only"
[02:29] <Panamaquono> I don;t have windows anymore, where did the setting go?
[02:30] <Panamaquono> did cat /proc/asound/devices
[02:31] <Panamaquono> 5: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
[02:32] <Panamaquono> is there a better place to go for this?
[03:21] <refused9150> Hi im really new to this whole thing and i have ran into a big problem and was hoping someone could help
[03:22] <refused9150> anyone?
[03:24] <refused9150> ???
[04:58] <fredsua> good evening
[04:59] <fredsua> could anyone help me with a DVD playback problem?
[06:03] <sleepwalk> hey could ANYONE please tell me the best way to rebuild my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file???  My current video settings are correct, but when I reboot I loose the setup...I also noticed some minor errors in the xorg.conf file.  ANY ideas???
[06:03] <CarlFK> sleepwalk: post your .conf and .log to http://dpaste.com
[06:04] <CarlFK> and hope soemone is still around to help... I am off to bed any minute
[06:08] <sleepwalk> shoot jk
[06:08] <sleepwalk> *okay
[06:11] <sleepwalk> im doing it...hold up if you can. CarlFK
[06:11] <sleepwalk> http://pastebin.com/m7f70ba81
[06:12] <sleepwalk> which file is .log?
[06:12] <sleepwalk> You around CarlFK?
[06:12] <CarlFK> yeah
[06:13] <CarlFK> /var/log/X...something
[06:13] <sleepwalk> k
[06:14] <CarlFK> 	Driver		"nvidia" - there is an nvidia channel - might be good to try there
[06:14] <CarlFK> yeah /join #nvidia
[06:15] <sleepwalk> http://pastebin.com/m66431be3
[06:15] <sleepwalk> k
[06:15] <sleepwalk> thanks
[06:15] <sleepwalk> I believe that second link is the right file
[06:17] <CarlFK> yeah
[06:17] <CarlFK> oh... loose the setup.. and you get "falesafe" or something?
[06:17] <sleepwalk> Yea
[06:18] <sleepwalk> It's really screwy
[06:18] <sleepwalk> I have to boot into text mode or wahtever
[06:18] <sleepwalk> and run "envy" in text mode
[06:18] <sleepwalk> it uninstalls the drivers
[06:18] <CarlFK> yeah, I have run into falesafe. look around for xorg.conf.falesafe or something.  delete it
[06:20] <sleepwalk> then I have to reinstall, and reboot...then I have to log in and install "restricted drivers"(but I[am not sure if it helps)..then I have to log into screens and graphics and mess with the settings.  (My friend actually does this)  He is new to linux and is "exploring"...and making me fix many errors everyday.. it's fun though
[06:20] <sleepwalk> why should I delete x*.falesafe?
[06:21] <CarlFK> or rename it
[06:21] <CarlFK> i kinda remember that helping
[06:22] <CarlFK>  but I may be dreaming.  I need to get to bed :)
[06:22] <sleepwalk> hmm..well it's worth a shot..It's just such a major pain in the ass to reboot and go through all the hell.  okay. Thanks man!!!!! Peace out.
[06:22] <CarlFK> see ya
[06:52] <ace> updating python-apt, upgrade-manager,-core, get stuck for anybody else? on hardy. says subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 on all 3 packages
[06:53] <ace> other packages installed fine
[06:53] <ace> nm
[07:33] <Geoffrey3> is there a shortcut key to switch to the command line in Ubuntu?
[07:34] <ere4si> Geoffrey3, you can press ctrl-alt-F2 and then alt-F7 to get back
[07:41] <Geoffrey3> has anyone here had problems installing libexo from source?
[07:42] <Geoffrey3> there's about a half dozen header files configure insists aren't there, even though I know several of them are
[07:43] <Geoffrey3> including md5.h
[07:43] <ere4si> Geoffrey3, is the source a later version than the one in the repos?
[07:44] <Geoffrey3> ere4si: I believe so, 4.4.2.....
[07:45] <ere4si> I'm showing 0.3-0 in my synaptic... - is there a readme file that asks for a certain kernel?
[07:46] <Geoffrey3> oh, the exo library is version 0.3.4
[07:47] <ere4si> should say I'm using feisty
[07:49] <Geoffrey3> ah, xububtu gutsy here
[07:49] <AlgorithmicContr> ---Mark---
[07:49] <AlgorithmicContr> [07:49] <AlgorithmicContr> _Mark_
[08:25] <Carry> help, i used sudo-apt install xubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu-lamp, but now it's hanging... [42951174.840000]  [<c01033b5>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
[08:25] <Carry> and some error's...
[08:44] <ere4si> Carry, the command should have been   sudo apt-get install
[08:45] <ere4si> can you reboot Carry ?
[08:53] <Carry> ere4si: reboot, now installing :)
[08:53] <ere4si> yah Carry
[08:53] <Carry> sudo apt-get update
[08:53] <Carry> sudo apt-get install
[08:53] <Carry> ?
[08:54] <ere4si> what's the issue Carry ?
[08:54] <Carry> ere4si: thank you..
[08:54] <ere4si> k
[10:30]  * AlgorithmicContr can't sleep.
[10:32]  * ere4si suggests warm milk
[10:36] <AlgorithmicContr> hm
[11:06] <LetsGo67> I cannot boot my hard drive by itself, I need to insert the Ubuntu CD, then go to "boot from first hard disk".  Is there a way to fix that?
[11:10] <ere4si> LetsGo67, let the live cd boot into the desktop - then open a terminal - type  sudo grub - then type   find /boot/grub/stage1 - and we'll go from there
[12:22] <LeAstrale> hi ppl
[12:32] <ich> does anyone know how to fix the md5 checksum flashplugin issue?
[12:32] <ich> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[12:41] <slow-motion> hi
[12:43] <gabkdlly> ich: hi, this seems to happen quite often, whenever Adobe makes an update to the player, but then it takes some time for this change to get updated in the package in the repositories. Either wait for the update, and use a free alternative in the meantime, or install manually using Adobe's instructions
[12:45] <ich> gabkdlly, okay, thanks for your feedback. i'll try adobes instructions soon
[15:26] <theTheme> Hey everyone, I have a question, I am running kubuntu now and I've been reading on the xubuntu site but I don't quite understand what make xubuntu different from other distributions
[15:27] <TheSheep> theTheme: different set of default settings and applications than ubuntu
[15:28] <theTheme> I see, if I switched over could I get kde apps (like kontact) to work? or would that defeat the point of switching
[15:29] <TheSheep> theTheme: you can even install it alongside your kde
[15:29] <theTheme> So when I boot in I'd choose which?
[15:29] <TheSheep> theTheme: but yes, it defeats some of the strong points of xubuntu
[15:30] <TheSheep> theTheme: yes, at login
[15:30] <theTheme> That's nifty, how would I set something like that up?
[15:30] <TheSheep> just install the xubuntu-desktop package
[15:30] <TheSheep> there are ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop too, btw
[15:34] <samiroquai> me wants Fatima (prophet Muhammad's daughter) so bad
[15:34] <samiroquai> me so horny
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[15:34] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Jesus' mom
[15:34] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Moses' ass
[15:34] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Abraham's gay-ass son
[15:34] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Poorochista (Zoroaster's whore daughter)
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[15:34] <samiroquai> jooooooooooonsk
[15:34] <samiroquai> jah
[15:34] <samiroquai> :D
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[15:35] <samiroquai> ))[15:35] <samiroquai> ))[15:35] <samiroquai> I got a hard on for prophet Muhammad's daughter
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[15:35] <samiroquai> me wants Fatima (prophet Muhammad's daughter) so bad
[15:35] <samiroquai> me so horny
[15:35] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Fatima Zahra
[15:35] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Jesus' mom
[15:35] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Moses' ass
[15:35] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Abraham's gay-ass son
[15:35] <samiroquai> me fucky fucky Poorochista (Zoroaster's whore daughter)
[15:35] <samiroquai> me wants you so bad
[15:35] <samiroquai> jooooooooooonsk
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[15:40] <AlgorithmicContr> good day gentlemen
[15:41] <TheSheep> hi AlgorithmicContr
[15:57] <maxamillion> TheSheep: sorry .... i didn't catch that one
[16:20] <schlumpf> hi how can i find out if i have java on my os?
[16:20] <TheSheep> type 'java' in the terminal
[16:22] <schlumpf> easy one :) thanks
[16:23] <maxamillion> schlumpf: does the command 'java' return anything about gij? ... because java (iirc) defaults to alias to gij
[16:24] <schlumpf> yes i does return about gij
[16:24] <TheSheep> maxamillion: it's a java implementation too, right?
[16:24] <schlumpf> via gif --version it says me java version 1.4.2
[16:25] <schlumpf> which leads me to the next question is that a uptodate version?
[16:25] <maxamillion> TheSheep: well ... yes, but i've never been able to get any application written in java to work
[16:25] <maxamillion> errr... to work using gij*
[16:26] <maxamillion> TheSheep: have you tried the OpenJDK/IcedTea JVM project? ... its pretty awesome :)
[16:31] <TheSheep> maxamillion: I don't do java often
[16:33] <maxamillion> ah
[16:33] <maxamillion> well, gotta run ... bbl
[17:18] <idaiai> hi
[17:27] <Angel_Gr> Hi everyone...
[17:32] <Angel_Gr> I have a x86 64 bit Intel Pentium processor (3.00Ghz) and I would like to install xUbuntu 7.10. In the ubuntu download site I can find 2 versions. The first one is for a Standard personal computer (x86 architecture) and the other one is for 64 bit AMD (and Intel?). Which should I download?
[17:45] <roe> how do I create desktop shortcuts from the applications menu items?
[17:45] <roe> right click doesn't bring up a context menu
[17:49] <Twinkletoes> Using 6.06 Desktop, I've just done some updates, and now when I try and start *certain* admin tools, it won't accept my password.  Some tools work, some don't.  The error is: "The entered password is invalid"
[17:50] <Twinkletoes> Additionally, /var/log/auth.log says "User is not in sudoers file!" but it most certainly is
[17:55] <zoredache> that doesn't sound good...
[17:55] <zoredache> did you use visudo to edit the file?
[17:56] <zoredache> you might triy a 'sudo visudo -c' perhaps the file is somewhat broke?
[17:59] <Twinkletoes> zoredache: Trying now...
[18:00] <Twinkletoes> zoredache: /etc/sudoers file parsed OK
[18:00] <Twinkletoes> zoredache: I created a new user, added to the admin group (using vigr) but still the same.  some utils work, some don't
[18:02] <Twinkletoes> zoredache: That's strange, I can't see my 2nd user in the admin grou pwhen I do vigr -s, but it appears normally in vigr
[18:02] <Twinkletoes> zoredache: How do I link them again?
[18:05] <zoredache> sorry?
[18:06] <Twinkletoes> zoredache: Basically, /etc/gshadow and /etc/group are different (in only one place).  I could edit it the same manually, or is there a tool I can run to correct them?
[18:08] <zoredache> I don't know about that..
[18:08] <Twinkletoes> zoredache: Wait... there is a command called 'grpconv'...
[18:09] <Twinkletoes> Well, that's corrected the discrepancy, but not the original problem :(
[18:22] <march> hi@all
[18:34] <slow-motion> bye
[19:20] <Yamato> how much faster would Xubuntu 7.10 be then Ubuntu 7.04 on a VIA C7-D?
[19:23] <Yamato> i'll take the silence as "Haha! You just wasted $75 on a crappy board/cpu!!!!"
[19:29] <zoredache> you could take it that way... you might also take it, that we have no idea
[19:30] <Yamato> i'll install Xubuntu anyway
[19:30] <zoredache> of course you asked 'how much faster', and you told us the new item, but not your old mb...  So how can we compare
[19:30] <Yamato> hmm
[19:30] <Yamato> i'll just VM it
[19:31] <zoredache> I have no experience with a via c7-d though, so I can't tell you.  Personally I think you should just install and try it
[19:31] <Yamato> i shoulda just saved more money
[19:31] <Yamato> and bought a better board and cpu
[19:34] <Yamato> the original reason i wanted to switch to Linux was "so i could have a cool fake mac osx desktop"
[19:58] <TheSheep> Yamato: you should have switched to macos
[20:52] <xubinux> where can i find second life folder please?
[20:53] <LiENUS> second life?!
[21:04] <march> ~/.secondlife ?
[21:05] <march> http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntuusers.de%2FSecond_Life&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ASCII
[21:06] <holo> hi
[21:07] <holo> I downloaded the latest release of xubuntu
[21:07] <holo> why can't I go through the language choice?
[21:07] <holo> is there some bug i should be aware?
[21:10] <TheSheep> holo: what do you mean "can't get through
[21:10] <TheSheep> "?
[21:12] <holo> TheSheep: I choose the language
[21:12] <holo> TheSheep: I mount the cd-rom, he asks me again for language
[21:13] <holo> in the other items from the menu happens the same
[21:15] <holo> I hope the reason has nothing to do with the underlying emulation abstraction I am using: bochs
[21:15] <holo> bochs shouldn't know anything about this, so I assume its an error from me or the installer
[21:16] <holo> So, when i select an Item or an option of an item, I always press <space>
[21:16] <holo> is anything wrong with this?
[21:16] <holo> "execute a shell" also prompts me for the language
[21:17] <TheSheep> did you try to select a language?
[21:17] <holo> TheSheep: also
[21:18] <TheSheep> holo: you use the alternate cd or the livecd?
[21:18] <holo> TheSheep: alternate cd
[21:18] <TheSheep> holo: gutsy?
[21:19] <holo> TheSheep: a moment, i will check
[21:19] <TheSheep> holo: or hoardy alpha3?
[21:19] <TheSheep> hardy*
[21:19] <holo> TheSheep: gutsy yes.
[21:19] <holo> I can see from the string "7.10"
[21:20] <holo> since I am getting paranoid, the whole filename is: xubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[21:20] <TheSheep> and what happens when you select a language? (and which language you're selecting)?
[21:21] <holo> TheSheep: It goes back to the main menu where all options are. I choose english
[21:22] <holo> Btw, "abort installation" selecting also prompts me with "language"
[21:22] <TheSheep> have you try to verify your cd?
[21:23] <holo> I will, but I bet 5euros here that it will prompt me for language :D
[21:23] <TheSheep> not likely
[21:24] <holo> TheSheep: it prompted me for the language. And it didn't also proceed to the suposed task
[21:26] <TheSheep> looks like something is very wrong with it
[21:26] <TheSheep> can you verify the image you downloaded?
[21:26] <TheSheep> !md5 | holo
[21:26] <ubotu> holo: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[21:41] <holo> ubotu, TheSheep, i'm just solving an issue here, I will go back to this subject in an instant. sorry for this delay
[22:11] <march> goodnight
[22:55] <TD-Linux> hi, I am planning on installing xubuntu on a friend's ancient laptop tomorrow (during lunch hour)
[22:56] <TD-Linux> I am not sure exactly what the laptop is, but it runs win98 at the moment, has no ethernet port, and is about 2 inches thick
[22:56] <TD-Linux> it has about 4 gigs of hard drive space free
[22:56] <TD-Linux> is there anything I should be worried about?
[22:57] <TD-Linux> should plain old xubuntu desktop install cd work fine? should I burn the alternate just in case, or is desktop reliable enough by now?
[22:59] <TheSheep> I'd burn the alternate just in case it has low memory
[23:16] <TD-Linux> also, does xubuntu have a widget or whatever for displaying battery status