[00:06] <miladen> can any1 tell me why this isnt working: ./poweriso extract /home/miladen/Desktop/psi.iso -od /home/miladen/Desktop
[00:06] <miladen> it tells me "unregonized parameter: /home/miladen/Desktop"
[00:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> well that wasn't a whole lot of fun :\
[00:08] <miladen> can any1 tell me why this isnt working: ./poweriso extract /home/miladen/Desktop/psi.iso -od /home/miladen/Desktop
[00:08] <miladen> it tells me "unregonized parameter: /home/miladen/Desktop"
[00:08] <joe_> hey yall, I am trying to install aMSN on Ubuntu and the instructions say I need to execute the comman ./configure . Where do I type that? in terminal?
[00:09] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Laptop: what did you do?
[00:09] <flipstar> miladen: hm maybe becorse its an unregonized parameter ?
[00:09] <coreymon77> joe_: isnt amsn on apt yet?
[00:09] <miladen> the manual itself tells me to do exactly the same flipstar
[00:09] <joe_> coreymon77: no idea what ya mean :(
[00:10] <flipstar> joe_: right you have to type that in terminal
[00:10] <coreymon77> !apt | joe_
[00:10] <ubotu> joe_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:10] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Laptop: whats the ubotu command to search the repos
[00:10] <coreymon77> ?
[00:11] <joe_> flipstar: what directory should I be in when I type it?
[00:11] <flipstar> joe_: that dir where you extracted amsn
[00:11] <joe_> miladen: maybe try with a lower case d in Desktop
[00:11] <coreymon77> joe_: no, linux is case sensitive
[00:11] <coreymon77> !search amsn
[00:12] <ubotu> Found:
[00:12] <coreymon77> !find amsn
[00:12] <ubotu> Found: amsn
[00:12] <prince_jammys> miladen: i looked at the site, seems they want a / before -od
[00:12] <oloughlin75> !info amsn
[00:12] <ubotu> amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[00:12] <oloughlin75> tht what you want?
[00:12] <joe_> coreymon77: thats why I suggested it, mine shows desktop with a lowercase d
[00:12] <coreymon77> thats it
[00:12] <miladen> prince_jammys no it errors
[00:12] <miladen> joe_ nope ;)
[00:12] <coreymon77> joe_: try this
[00:13] <coreymon77> joe_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amsn
[00:13] <prince_jammys> miladen:  blablab.iso   /  -od  /home/blah
[00:13] <joe_> coreymon77:  thats the ticket, thanx :D
[00:14] <joe_> coreymon77: it says amsn is already the newest
[00:14] <coreymon77> joe_: thats what i meant by isnt it on apt, unless you have a particular reason to compile, use apt
[00:14] <joe_> but my amsn wont start grr
[00:14] <coreymon77> joe_: well then apparently its installed
[00:14] <joe_> ok I guess I need TkCximage
[00:15] <coreymon77> joe_: huh?
[00:15] <coreymon77> joe_: whats the problem with amsn
[00:15]  * coreymon77 uses mercury anyways, its better
[00:15] <coreymon77> a little slower due to being java based
[00:15] <coreymon77> but i like it
[00:16] <flipstar> i prefer pidgin
[00:16] <coreymon77> mercury is cross platform, i can use it on all 3 oses
[00:16] <joe_> coreymon77:  I get an error saying loading TkCximage failed. This module is needed to run aMSN. Please compile aMSN first, instructions on how to compile are located in INSATLL.
[00:16] <oloughlin75> coreymon77: so is pidgin :)
[00:16] <coreymon77> meh
[00:16] <coreymon77> !info TkCximage
[00:16] <ubotu> Package tkcximage does not exist in gutsy
[00:16] <coreymon77> okay then
[00:17] <joe_> my aMSN was workin fine till I tried to update it
[00:17] <coreymon77> joe_: tried?
[00:17] <coreymon77> joe_: im assuming that meant everything didnt go as planned with the update
[00:18] <joe_> yeah it said there was an update, so I clicked to visit the site, I took the latest version and now it wont start
[00:18] <coreymon77> hmm
[00:18] <coreymon77> odd
[00:18] <joe_> :(
[00:18] <coreymon77> with that error huh?
[00:18] <joe_> yes sir
[00:19] <joe_> once I got that error, I read the install file
[00:19] <coreymon77> erm
[00:19] <joe_> and it said I need to install tcl-dev and tk-dev packages, so i did
[00:20] <joe_> then it says I need to configure.
[00:20] <joe_> but cant seem to get it to do that
[00:20] <joe_> I cant seem to change directory to amsn
[00:20] <coreymon77> umm
[00:20] <coreymon77> i take it you installed those with apt
[00:21] <joe_> I used system package management
[00:21] <coreymon77> you mean adept?
[00:22] <joe_> uummm I dont know :(
[00:22] <joe_> I went to system -> administration->system package management
[00:23] <joe_> marked those two things for install and clicked update
[00:23] <coreymon77> okay
[00:23] <coreymon77> i think thats adept
[00:23] <joe_> I am VERY new to linux
[00:23] <joe_> like 1 week
[00:23] <joe_> so trying to learn
[00:23] <joe_> sorry :(
[00:23] <coreymon77> joe_: welcome!
[00:23] <coreymon77> joe_: no problem
[00:23] <joe_> thanx
[00:23] <prince_jammys> joe_: the thing is you said that "it" said there was an update, and you had to visit a site
[00:23] <joe_> I just got sick of bill and all his windows
[00:24] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: amsn
[00:24] <flipstar> haha
[00:24] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: and to visit amsns website for the update
[00:24] <prince_jammys> coreymon77: i see
[00:24] <coreymon77> joe_: sorry youre having problems so early on, hope this doesnt turn you off of linux
[00:24] <prince_jammys> coreymon77: what form do those updates come in?
[00:24] <joe_> my terminal says joe@joe-desktop:/home$  how do I get it to say /home/usr/share/amsn?
[00:25] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: youre asking me, joes the one with the problem
[00:25] <coreymon77> joe_: the cd command
[00:25] <coreymon77> joe_: cd=change directory
[00:25] <joe_> coreymon77:  when I do "cd usr" it dont work
[00:25] <joe_> am I missing osmeting?
[00:25] <flipstar> here cd /home/usr/share/amsn
[00:25] <coreymon77> you need the slash
[00:25] <joe_> ah shoot
[00:25]  * joe_ smacks his own head
[00:25] <prince_jammys> joe_: cd /usr/share/blahblah    unless you actually have a /home/usr
[00:26] <flipstar> was just an example i guess
[00:26] <joe_> prince_jammys: thanx
[00:26] <coreymon77> flipstar, prince_jammys i think it means /home/username/share
[00:26] <coreymon77> flipstar: generic example
[00:26] <coreymon77> but probably /usr/share/amsn is more correct
[00:27] <joe_> yeah it should be
[00:27] <joe_> but it wont let me into share
[00:27] <coreymon77> joe_: youre gonna want the cd /usr/share/amsn command
[00:27] <oloughlin75> joe_: what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:27] <prince_jammys> yes, good question
[00:28] <coreymon77> oloughlin75: something messed up with an amsn update, and the readme for it says that he has to ./configure
[00:28] <coreymon77> now that he has the two packages he needs from adept
[00:28] <oloughlin75> coreymon77: i think you can configure when compiling from source
[00:28] <oloughlin75> only*
[00:29] <flipstar> agreed
[00:29] <joe_> do I need the . in front of the / ?
[00:29] <prince_jammys> joe_: yes
[00:29] <coreymon77> joe_: try this, sudo apt-get install tcl-dev tk-dev
[00:29] <joe_> k
[00:30] <coreymon77> im not sure if you actually installed the packages
[00:30] <prince_jammys> yes, you should not have to be compiling the stuff yourself if it's in apt
[00:30] <joe_> Package tcl-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:30] <joe_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:30] <joe_> is only available from another source
[00:30] <joe_> E: Package tcl-dev has no installation candidate
[00:31] <joe_> man, I suck at linux
[00:31] <oloughlin75> joe_: try "sudo apt-get -f install amsn"
[00:31] <joe_> really sorry guys for not knowing a bit more
[00:31] <prince_jammys> joe_: don't worry
[00:31] <prince_jammys> be happy :)
[00:31] <oloughlin75> lmao
[00:32] <prince_jammys> ha
[00:32] <joe_> just dont want to frustrate the people who are trying to help
[00:32] <joe_> oloughlin75:
[00:32] <joe_> amsn is already the newest version.
[00:32] <joe_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:32] <prince_jammys> joe_: if you're new to linux, it's too much for you to have to be compiling stuff
[00:32] <prince_jammys> you should be able to install this through apt
[00:32] <joe_> gotta learn somehow though
[00:32] <bobby> hey all, does anyone know how i could go about printing a pdf document with 6 pages to a sheet? kpdf doesnt seem to be able to do that.
[00:32] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: thats the problem
[00:32] <prince_jammys> like oloughlin75 is saying
[00:32] <joe_> cant learn to swim without getting wet
[00:32] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: it is on apt
[00:33] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: and its installed on apt
[00:33] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: it just messed up after an update
[00:33] <bobby> im using kubuntu 7.10
[00:33] <joe_> how do you uninstall with linux? maybe I will just uninstall amsn and start fresh with "apt"
[00:33] <coreymon77> joe_: normally you dont have to compile stuff, apt is pretty comprehensive
[00:33] <oloughlin75> joe_: lets try "sudo apt-get install amsn --reinstall"
[00:33] <coreymon77> joe_: that was my next suggestion
[00:34] <joe_> wooohoo, I thought of something you did :D
[00:34]  * joe_ feels proud
[00:34] <loguser1> if i dont have xorg installed. why can i see mouse and gui apps?
[00:34] <coreymon77> oloughlin75: i was going to suggest an uninstall+purge, but thats a better first step
[00:34] <prince_jammys> you can stick the --reinstall after the name of the package?
[00:34] <flipstar> bobby: kpdf can print..just select it from menu or press ctrl + p ..
[00:34] <oloughlin75> loguser1: you must have xorg
[00:34] <loguser1> oloughlin75:  i uninstalled it.
[00:35] <coreymon77> oloughlin75: isnt the command apt-get reinstall [package]?
[00:35] <miladen> how do i uninstall apps in wine?
[00:35] <joe_> Unpacking replacement amsn ...
[00:35] <oloughlin75> coreymon77: no
[00:35] <bobby> no no i know that! haha, i want it to print 6 pages on a single piece of paper, and i only have an option for 4 pages. is there another app that i should try?
[00:35] <oloughlin75> coreymon77: man apt-get
[00:35] <coreymon77> oloughlin75: okay then, i was wrong
[00:35] <flipstar> coreymon77: no it is apt-get --reinstall install
[00:36] <oloughlin75> loguser1: you wont have GUI at all if you install xorg... what did you do?
[00:36] <joe_> YEAH BABY!!!! it works thanx so very much coreymon77 oloughlin75 prince_jammys and everyone :D
[00:36] <prince_jammys> bingo
[00:36] <coreymon77> joe_: you see, even i am learning new things
[00:36] <oloughlin75> joe_: does amsn work now?
[00:36] <joe_> oloughlin75:  it does
[00:36] <coreymon77> joe_: everyone is a linux noob at some point, even all of us
[00:36] <joe_> thanx so much :D
[00:36] <oloughlin75> joe_: thank you, come again ;)
[00:36] <joe_> oh I will
[00:36] <coreymon77> joe_: that will be $5 please
[00:36] <coreymon77> :P
[00:37]  * joe_ dcc's $5 CAD to coreymon77
[00:37] <coreymon77> thank you
[00:37] <loguser1_>   i have a mouse moving. a console .wallpaper. i can run gui apps by typing ther name in console like amasn.  despite i uninstalled xorg.. why ?
[00:37] <prince_jammys> now what you did is use APT (which by the way is what you accept when you use "adept" and also "synaptic" and "aptitude")
[00:37] <prince_jammys> accept=do
[00:37] <prince_jammys> i have no idea why i typed accept
[00:37] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: neither
[00:38] <coreymon77> loguser1_: well then, apparently you didnt uninstall xorg
[00:38] <loguser1_>   i have a mouse moving. a console .wallpaper. i can run gui apps by typing ther name in console like amasn.  despite i uninstalled xorg.. why ?
[00:38] <Townk> Hi guys, I'm not using kubuntu but I'm trying to configure the Qt theme of my Ubuntu and guys from #ubuntu told me that here is the best place to ask :), so... I'm trying to run qtconfig but this app is not installed. Which package should I install?
[00:38] <flipstar> loguser1_: did you restarted after uninstalling xorg ?
[00:38] <prince_jammys> its all the apt accept adopt adapt
[00:38] <loguser1_> flipstar:  coreymon77  i uninstalled that from console
[00:38] <coreymon77> loguser1_: apparently not, since you still have a gui
[00:38] <loguser1_> flipstar:  coreymon77 but i dont see any taskbar or kmenu.
[00:39] <oloughlin75> loguser1what did you do to "uninstall" xorg?
[00:39] <flipstar> so you can run gui's from a console ? without X ?
[00:39] <coreymon77> flipstar: no he cant
[00:39] <flipstar> hah would be great
[00:39] <coreymon77> flipstar: obviously it didnt fully uninstall
[00:39] <prince_jammys> Townk: just a guess (i dont know) gtk-qt-engine
[00:39] <DFlame> Hiya folks, anyone want to have a crack at solving a samba problem here? 2 stations, hub link, both 7.10 and working VNC connection. Yet browsing into the share tells me it does not exist (it does, of course)
[00:39] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg
[00:40] <loguser1_> flipstar:  ya.
[00:40] <Townk> prince_jammys: actually this one make GTK apps looks like Qt. what I'm looking for is the opposite :P
[00:40] <flipstar> loguser1_: maybe you'll try xorg*
[00:40] <oloughlin75> !info xorg
[00:40] <bobby> are you guys going to let me boot into windows just to print 6 pages on a single sheet?! haha
[00:40] <ubotu> xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[00:40] <loguser1_> flipstar:  xorg* what do you mean?
[00:40] <coreymon77> bobby: nope, just be patient
[00:40] <flipstar> bobby as i said above kpdf can print
[00:40] <coreymon77> bobby: were a little busy
[00:41] <oloughlin75> loguser1_: xorg looks like just a single file. the * is a wildcard that will remove everything starting with xorg
[00:41] <flipstar> bobby: just select it from menu or press ctrl +p
[00:41] <bobby> flipstar: kpdf wont let me print 6 pages on a sheet, only 4 max.
[00:41] <loguser1_> ok
[00:41] <oloughlin75> flipstar: he wants 6 pages printed onto 1
[00:41] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  brb
[00:41] <flipstar> ah
[00:41] <omalled> does anyone know if there are ubuntu packages for BLAS and LAPACK?
[00:41] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  flipstar  but what would i have to do if i want to reinstall it?
[00:42] <oloughlin75> loguser1_: why on earth are you removing and reinstalling xorg?
[00:42] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  flipstar  do i still have kde? i dont know much how gui works. what are its components
[00:42] <flipstar> loguser1_: btw why do you want to uninstall X  ?
[00:42] <oloughlin75> loguser1_: sudo apt-get install xorg  i suppose
[00:42] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  i had a problem. coudnt log in the gui. so now i can.
[00:42] <loguser1_> flipstar:  ^
[00:42] <prince_jammys> !info xserver-xorg
[00:42] <ubotu> xserver-xorg (source: xorg): the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[00:42] <oloughlin75> you could have *fixed xorg.conf loguser1_
[00:43] <loguser1_> flipstar:  oloughlin75  prince_jammys  . i dont know why i didnt had kubuntu-desktop and xserver-org . when i cam to know that . when i typed apt-get remove     ?
[00:44] <prince_jammys> one more time?
[00:44] <loguser1_> flipstar:  oloughlin75  prince_jammys  .despite that. i ran kde. and guui..
[00:44] <loguser1_> how can that be possible
[00:44] <oloughlin75> loguser1_: they dont do the same thing! you need xorg to display stuff and kde is a desktop environment
[00:45] <oloughlin75> loguser1_: you didnt remove xserver, you removed one file, and apparently it isnt -needed-
[00:45] <prince_jammys> i'm a bit confused. is your X broken?
[00:46] <oloughlin75> prince_jammys: it was and he removed xorg
[00:46] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  so what do i need to reinstall all. except kde. that seems working fine to me
[00:46] <loguser1_> prince_jammys:  yes i gues
[00:46] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: no, he purposely remove xorg
[00:46] <loguser1_> coreymon77:  ya
[00:46] <oloughlin75> coreymon77: because he couldnt log in using GUI
[00:46] <oloughlin75> so im assuming kdm wasnt loading
[00:46] <coreymon77> prince_jammys: so, yes, his x is broken :P
[00:47] <prince_jammys> :)
[00:47] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  i can see a mouse. and i can run amsn
[00:47] <coreymon77> oloughlin75: thats not much of a reason to remove xorg though
[00:47] <oloughlin75> can you run amarok?
[00:47] <loguser1_> oloughlin75: wait
[00:47] <oloughlin75> coreymon77: does it look like he knows what hes doing?
[00:48] <coreymon77> oloughlin75: good point ;)
[00:48] <loguser1_> oloughlin75:  yes
[00:48] <oloughlin75> *no offence loguser1_
[00:48] <prince_jammys> i dont understand how you can run that stuff having removed xorg, so im staying out of this one
[00:48] <oloughlin75> !info xorg
[00:48] <ubotu> xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[00:48] <oloughlin75> prince_jammys: it looks like its a file
[00:48] <oloughlin75> prince_jammys: not the whole thing
[00:49] <miladen> what is the "new version" of beryl called?
[00:49]  * loguser1_ cant see the taskbar..... or any other gui. or kde
[00:49] <flipstar> optional it says
[00:49] <prince_jammys> but X is optional
[00:49] <flipstar> !beryl > miladen
[00:49] <SlimeyPete> miladen: compiz-fusion
[00:49] <miladen> aight
[00:49] <miladen> thx
[00:49] <prince_jammys> you dont technically need X
[00:49] <loguser1_> oohh       ....... kdem daemon is runing i gues?
[00:49] <Arwen> you don't technically need linux-image either
[00:49] <prince_jammys> troll
[00:49] <oloughlin75> lol
[00:49] <Arwen> true
[00:50] <Arwen> if you wanted to, you could use GNU Hurd.
[00:50] <Arwen> It wouldn't do a whole lot, but...
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> yaaa!
[00:50] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: help them!
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> who>
[00:50] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: loguser1 removed xorg
[00:51] <Arwen> yeah, who and with what?
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> thats simple :)
[00:51] <Arwen> reinstall it, lol
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> loguser1 » run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[00:51] <Arwen> I think he meant you removed it as in apt-get remove
[00:52] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: he didnt remove xserver -- he did apt-get remove xorg
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> oh!
[00:52] <oloughlin75> !info xorg
[00:52] <ubotu> xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[00:52] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: xorg looks like a single file or something
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> well.... grab it again
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> meta package.
[00:52] <flipstar> btw loguser_ left ..
[00:53] <Arwen> well, that would prevent us from helping him, wouldn't it?
[00:53] <prince_jammys> ha
[00:54] <root-----> what the heck is going on..  this is loguser1........     i had a problem with x. i though it was kde. but it wasnt. i couldn solve it. i uninstalled xorg. stil could use restricted gui. with no kde. then i removed xorg*. kdm damon stoped. i went to console only. typed 'startx' . now iam using full gui. and kde. whats going on................
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> :)
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> root----- » xorg is just a meat package.. it didn't remove anything
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> *meta
[00:54] <root-----> nosrednaekim ic.. so what is it for. and whats the read package?
[00:55] <Arwen> it's there to help upgrades
[00:55] <Arwen> the real on is xserver-xorg iirc
[00:55] <root-----> xserver-xorg . i didnt had that when i tried to remove it
[00:56] <root-----> can some one explain. whats the backbon. the working of gui
[00:57] <nosrednaekim> root----- » so whats the problem exactly?
[00:57] <root-----> nosrednaekim just wana understand
[00:57] <Arwen> Let's see... it works something like this -> GRUB boots Linux. Linux runs init which usually spawns a bunch of consoles. You run X in one of these consoles. X starts KDE. You have fun.
[00:57] <root-----> nosrednaekim and btw, i have no xorg atm. still runing kde. how why?
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> root----- » you do have X if you are running kde
[00:58] <prince_jammys> that sir, is not possible
[00:58] <Arwen> prince_jammys, he could be using the Y Window System :-P
[00:58] <root-----> nosrednaekim i dont have xorg .. can i still run kde?
[00:58] <prince_jammys> Arwen: was waiting for that :)
 root----- » xorg is just a meta package.. it didn't remove anything
[00:59] <nosrednaekim> root----- » you DO have X...
[00:59] <nosrednaekim> xorg
[00:59] <root-----> flipstar nosrednaekim ah ic. what x do i have?
[00:59] <root-----> whats a meta package
[00:59] <flipstar> X like X in Xorg
[00:59] <Arwen> a metapackage is a backage that doesn't do anything by itself
[00:59] <flipstar> a package with metainformations in it
[00:59] <Arwen> it just forces apt to download other ones
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> root----- » a meta package just install a whole bunch of other packages
[01:00] <root-----> ic
[01:00] <root-----> xorg installs and maintains X ?
[01:00] <root-----> correct?
[01:00] <Arwen> installs, yes
[01:00] <flipstar> so its like a box..
[01:00] <Arwen> dunno about maintaining
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> root----- » yes
[01:01] <flipstar> when you remove that carton the content still exists
[01:01] <nzk> What is a good GUI text editor?
[01:01] <root-----> nosrednaekim what x do i have.
[01:01] <flipstar> i like kate nzk
[01:01] <LjL> !good | nzk
[01:01] <ubotu> nzk: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[01:01] <LjL> !editors | nsk
[01:01] <ubotu> nsk: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:02] <root-----> nosrednaekim something tells me i should reinstall xorg to maintain a good x ?
[01:02] <prince_jammys> root-----: what is that something?  what is broken?
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> root----- » yeah... you should
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> root----- » tho its not real important
[01:02] <root-----> prince_jammys nosrednaekim ya. it was. i couldnt log in gui. it asked pwd again and again. but now its fine
[01:03] <root-----> nosrednaekim prince_jammys so. it was xorg fault. i uninstalled.  now i should reinstall it?
[01:03] <prince_jammys> root-----: there are now no symptoms of breakage?
[01:03] <root-----> prince_jammys no.
[01:03] <root-----> prince_jammys my configs of desktop are changed thought . but its working
[01:04] <prince_jammys> root-----: if i recall, you changed those configs earlier, right?
[01:04] <root-----> yes
[01:04] <root-----> i see less apps too
[01:04] <root-----> in the kmenu
[01:04] <prince_jammys> thats normal
[01:05] <root-----> why so
[01:05] <prince_jammys> because you deleted your configs
[01:05] <root-----> :)
[01:05] <prince_jammys> normal as in expected
[01:05] <root-----> the system should restore
[01:05] <prince_jammys> the stuff is there though, just not in your menus
[01:05] <root-----> auto
[01:05] <jeffy124> anyone here know why Kubuntu doesn't come with GIMP pre-installed?
[01:06] <root-----> prince_jammys i dont know. my destop working is quite faster now.. why so?
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> jeffy124 » no room, and it uses GTK
[01:06] <prince_jammys> so unless you see symptoms that stuff is broken ,i suggest you leave it alone
[01:06] <root-----> ok
[01:06] <prince_jammys> you're gonna have to put the stuff back in the menu
[01:06] <root-----> hm
[01:06] <root-----> prince_jammys but all my games are stil there
[01:07] <root-----> ooonly few have been missing
[01:07] <prince_jammys> the menus can be a pain in the rear, yes
[01:07] <prince_jammys> but reinstalling x would not solve this anyway
[01:07] <root-----> prince_jammys oh sh*t . i dont have konqueror instaled
[01:08] <prince_jammys> not in the menu or just not installed?
[01:08] <root-----> prince_jammys reinstalling x.. i already have x i gues
[01:08] <prince_jammys> alt+f2  type       konqueror
[01:08] <root-----> The program 'konqueror' is currently not installed.
[01:09] <prince_jammys> install it
[01:09] <root-----> prince_jammys reinstalling x.. i already have x i gues ?
[01:09] <prince_jammys> yes
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> root----- » run "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:09] <prince_jammys> yeah do that
[01:09] <root-----> lololol.. i dont have adept too
[01:09] <prince_jammys> you will after you do that
[01:09]  * root----- sniffes xorg faults?
[01:09] <root-----> k
[01:11] <root-----> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:11] <jeffy124> nosrednaekim: so if i want gimp in Kubuntu i have to install all the gtk crap? that would slow down my computer a wee bit right?
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> jeffy124 » only when you were running it.... and if you were using firefox anyway, it won't matter
[01:12] <root-----> nosrednaekim i already have kde
[01:12] <unagi> can mkisofs make an iso from a movie dvd?
[01:12] <root-----> guys........ what x do i have right now?
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> X11 7.2
[01:12] <mike18> i just installed new Nvidia drivers via Envy in Kubuntu 7.04 and upon reboot my display has very blue tint as if no red is coming out. I'm using the s-video => component dongle connected to my HDTV
[01:13] <flipstar> !envy > mike18
[01:13] <root-----> nosrednaekim ok. and whats the package name for htat
[01:13] <jeffy124> nosrednaekim: ahhh cheers. i would buy you a beer... but this is irc...
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> roo t----- » not sure... but if you are running kde, you don'thave to worry about it, cause its already installed
[01:14] <unagi> is there a way for kaffiene to recognize media buttons?
[01:14]  * root----- thanks all for the fish :)
[01:16] <oloughlin75> !info pydev
[01:16] <ubotu> Package pydev does not exist in gutsy
[01:16] <Riskbreaker> does anyone know how to make kontact show emails with html formatting?
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> Riskbreaker » yeah.... its a setting somewhere in kmail
[01:18] <unagi> !samba
[01:18] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> probably under account
[01:20] <Riskbreaker> nothing under accounts...
[01:21] <flipstar> Riskbreaker: kmail settings->security->html
[01:22] <flipstar> good night everyone!
[01:23] <Riskbreaker> there we g
[01:23] <Riskbreaker> go
[01:23] <Riskbreaker> thanks man
[01:23] <bobby> Could anyone tell me an app that can print 6 sheets to 1 page? KPDF can only do 4max.
[01:27] <Riskbreaker> is there anyone using the fglrx 8.02 driver?
[01:27] <Arwen> no, because I know 8.01 failed a lot
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Riskbreaker » I'm using the 7.12.... should be close enough
[01:28] <Riskbreaker> it may be, it may not be. i have a problem where my compy hangs at a blank black screen whenever i shut down X
[01:28] <Riskbreaker> reboot, restart X, shutdown, can't do any of it. computer hangs.
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> Riskbreaker » ah, I know how to fix that
[01:28] <Riskbreaker> o rly
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> Riskbreaker » you have to tell kdm to restart X on logout.
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> let me fid that file
[01:29] <Riskbreaker> ...say what.
[01:29] <root----->  when i go to consoleonly and type startx . it starts it good. but at regular boot , after giving username/pwd. i only see mouch . wallpaper and a console. no kde. why?   i only see kde in good if i select 'kde' from sessions while giving username pwd. is any thing wrong? (provided that i already have installed xorg)
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> root----- » switch back to the normal KDE session... you are in failsafe
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> there is a button on kdm for chooseing the session
[01:30] <mike18> !restricted
[01:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:30] <mike18> !restricted devices
[01:30] <mike18> !restricteddevices
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> Riskbreaker » http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kdm-logon-screen-resolution-and-logoff-issues-in-slackware-12.0-572836/
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> BBIAB
[01:31] <jeffy124> !restricteddrivers
[01:31] <jeffy124> !restricted drivers
[01:31] <root-----> nosrednaekim iam not
[01:31] <root-----> nosrednaekim ohl ok. where is the buttion?
[01:31] <unagi> !wireless
[01:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:31] <Riskbreaker> i will take a look
[01:32] <unagi> hrm, i dunno what to do when a laptop only has wireless internet and it doesnt work on the livcecd
[01:32] <Riskbreaker> which post specifically should i look at?
[01:33] <osiris> anyone have an idea how i can tell what has my file system set to read only ?
[01:33] <osiris> i can ssh into the box, but for some reason the file system is read only
[01:34] <root-----> nosrednaekim ohl ok. where is the buttion?
[01:34] <mike18> !adept
[01:34] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:36] <unagi> is there a way to enable wireless without using the media button
[01:36] <mike18> my adept package manager is missing
[01:37] <mike18> i tried Alt+F2 and typing Adept it doesnt start... tries to search online. it's not in K-Menu > System > ... either
[01:37] <mike18> any ideas?
[01:38] <eirikeylandsbran> Im going to ask a quick question, im setting up a kubuntu server, how should I partition my disks?
[01:38] <eirikeylandsbran> disks-s
[01:39] <BluesKaj> mike18, try : sudo apt-get install adept , in the terminal
[01:39] <mike18> just did that :)
[01:39] <mike18> i'm learning
[01:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're not missing much
[01:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> synaptic sucks a whole lot less :D
[01:40] <BluesKaj> mike18, not alt+F2 , open the Konsole in kmenu
[01:40] <mike18> i tried it in konsole typing adept said command not found
[01:40] <mike18> found it in k-menu > system now
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> mike18: how about adept-manager (or adept_manager, i forget which)
[01:41] <root----->  i had mad a backup of my os by g4l and i have the image file. i just want to overwrite the home directory with the home directory of that backup . how can i do it?
[01:41] <Riskbreaker> nosrednaekim: i put the line in kdmrc that i found in that thread and it didn't help
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> because just going for adept isn't going to work.
[01:41] <Riskbreaker> tried to restart X, still froze
[01:42] <mike18> i'm in it now
[01:42] <mike18> not sure which driver to use the wiki is unclear
[01:43] <mike18> theres nvidia-glx, glx-legacy, glx-new
[01:43] <mike18> i'm using 7600 GT
[01:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> mike18: use new
[01:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> nvidia-glx-new that is :)
[01:43] <mike18> thx
[01:44] <epsilom> hi
[01:45] <epsilom> I have a problems with konqueror
[01:45] <NickPresta> epsilom, what kind of problems?
[01:46] <epsilom> when I clik link (for example a link in kontact) the konqueror open link in temporal archive (for example /var/tmp/kdecache-xavier/krun/9048.0.150440 )
[01:47] <epsilom> I dont like this
[01:47] <epsilom> have you any ideas?
[01:49] <unagi> is it possible to enable a broadcom bcm4318 wireless card without the button on the laptop?
[01:50] <epsilom> help....
[01:50] <nosredna_ekim> unagi » probably not
[01:53] <mike18> i just installed new nvidia drivers according to ubuntu community wiki using adept manager
[01:53] <mike18> now i reboot and all i get is flashing cursor in top left corner
[01:53] <mike18> wtf
[01:54] <FX> so what other desktops does people in here use beside kubuntu?
[01:54] <nosredna_ekim> mike18 » you didn't use the resticted-manager?
[01:54] <nosredna_ekim> FX QLWM
[01:54] <FX> qlwm? never heard of that
[01:54] <mike18> no using kubuntu
[01:55] <mike18> kubuntu has adept
[01:55] <shooter26> hallo
[01:55] <mike18> not restricted-manager
[01:55] <shooter26> jemand aus deutschland da
[01:55] <nosredna_ekim> mike18 » it has restricted-manager as well
[01:55] <mike18> well shotskis
[01:56] <mike18> what do i do now that i have the flashing cursor? we've established i didn't use restricted-manager... can't do much with the flashing cursor
[01:56] <nosredna_ekim> anyway... go into recovery mode and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[01:57] <mike18> k i'll try that now
[01:57] <mike18> grazie
[01:57] <eirikeylandsbran> FX: os x 10.4, windows, and now (hopefully) Kubuntu
[01:58] <intelikey> ERROR: [00000276] access_file access error: read failed (Input/output error)      anyone can tell me how to copy the .vob files off the dvd ?
[01:59] <FX> eirikeylandsbran: I ran Mac for a while and then got bored with it.
[02:00] <mike18> nosredna_ekim: i did that it brought up the configuration screen and the only selected ones are ones i know will work
[02:00] <intelikey> is that what the .ifo files do?     fill in the bad sectors of the .vob files so they can be read ?
[02:00] <root------> i made a backup file by g4l . now  i just want to overwrite the home directory . how can i do it?
[02:01] <Eirikeb> FX: how is that even possible? Its fast, goodlooking, stable and works out of the box
[02:01] <intelikey> hi root
[02:01] <FX> Don't know just did. I wanted back to Linux and didn't see the need to have a $1800 laptop to run linux on. So I sold it on craig's list and bought a cheapo laptop to run linux on.
[02:01] <root------> hi
[02:01] <root------> intelikey
[02:02] <BluesKaj> intelikey, try avidemux
[02:02] <intelikey> root------ from another account ?    namely root ?
[02:02] <root------> intelikey same account
[02:02] <intelikey> BluesKaj is it a restricted package
[02:02] <intelikey> root------ you are not listening.  try it from root
[02:02] <root------> how
[02:03] <BluesKaj> intelikey, I can't recall
[02:03] <root------> intelikey what do you mean
[02:03] <Eirikeb> well, I cant live without the adobe suit, so im kind of stuck
[02:03] <intelikey> root------  log out   kill ?dm     login as root or switch to root and run startx
[02:03] <Eirikeb> and windows, meh, to shitty
[02:04] <root------> intelikey then?>
[02:04] <intelikey> then your users home is not in use. and you can over write it.
[02:04] <Eirikeb> 91% on installing system d : )
[02:04] <root------> intelikey i have reinstalled xorg. its working fine. but my configs are gone
[02:04] <icanhasadmin> Anyone familiar with the new alsa drivers?
[02:05] <Arwen> "new"?
[02:05] <icanhasadmin> ok, newest lol
[02:05] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: whatcha doin?
[02:05] <icanhasadmin> hey again oloughlin75 :)
[02:05] <root------> oloughlin75 i got my prob solved
[02:05] <oloughlin75> sound works?
[02:05] <unagi> can kaffiene recognize dvd menus
[02:05] <root------> oloughlin75 i made a backup file by g4l . now  i just want to overwrite the home directory . how can i do it? using kkubuntu
[02:05] <intelikey> root------ i must not have understood your question "<root------> i made a backup file by g4l . now  i just want to overwrite the home directory . how can i do it?  <<< thought you wanted a way to "over write your home dir"   sorry.
[02:06] <wolf08_> Anyone familiar with paintEvents in Qt 4.3? I'm trying to update a rectangle of my QWidget with update(QRect()) but it is acting strangely
[02:06] <oloughlin75> root------: no idea
[02:06] <icanhasadmin> The command I was logging into tty to do... didn't work.
[02:06] <prince_jammys> root------: i am completely baffled by what you are trying to achieve
[02:06] <root------> ok
[02:06] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: what was the command?
[02:06] <wolf08_> The rectangles are the correct size (between 2 points with a slight margin) but the screen update only happens where rectangles overlap
[02:06] <oloughlin75> wolf08_: try asking in #kubuntu-devel
[02:07] <icanhasadmin> uhm.. sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[02:07] <wolf08_> Thanks for the tip, I will.
[02:07] <wolf08_> Is there a general KDE-devel or qt-devel?
[02:07] <oloughlin75> not sure -- try them
[02:07] <root------> prince_jammys oloughlin75 internet_ - configs. desktop settings are gone... thts in the home folder right?. i had made a backup of all the drive. and that had the home folder that had my configs in the way i want. now i want to overrite my current home folder by that g4l backup.
[02:07] <prince_jammys> root------: ah
[02:08]  * root------ thanks for understanting
[02:08] <oloughlin75> !info g4l
[02:08] <ubotu> Package g4l does not exist in gutsy
[02:08] <root------> oloughlin75 ghost 4 linux
[02:08] <icanhasadmin> "sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload" doesn't really make sense to me.. where's the command? /sbin/alsa is a folder isn't it?
[02:09] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: did you restart your computer?
[02:09] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: i think itd do the same exact thing
[02:09] <oloughlin75> reload alsa
[02:09] <root------> ok. how can i browse and copy compressed files containing data?
[02:09] <oloughlin75> i dont know all the commands
[02:09] <icanhasadmin> uhm. I did reboot.
[02:09] <icanhasadmin> I think the drivers are even installed
[02:09] <icanhasadmin> everything seems to be installed perfectally
[02:09] <icanhasadmin> just no sound :()
[02:09] <root------> ok. how can i browse and copy compressed files containing data?
[02:10] <BluesKaj> icanhasadmin, are trying to see if alsa is installed ?
[02:10] <icanhasadmin> correct
[02:10] <icanhasadmin> I believe it installed correctly but I have no idea.
[02:11] <BluesKaj> icanhasadmin, type 'alsamixer' in the konsole
[02:11] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: open up console and run the command "lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel
[02:11] <Eirikeb> sadface, seems to be stuck on first load after install
[02:11] <root------> how can i browse and copy bzip2 compressed files?
[02:11] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: does that give you stuff?
[02:11] <icanhasadmin> yes
[02:12] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: is you sound muted? speakers plugged in?
[02:12] <prince_jammys> root------: "ark" let's you browser through those
[02:12] <icanhasadmin> it's a laptop.. and not muted :P
[02:12] <oloughlin75> volume turned up?
[02:12] <icanhasadmin> yes sir...
[02:12] <oloughlin75> no sound?
[02:12] <oloughlin75> open up amarok and play something
[02:13] <Riskbreaker> any ati users. i need help with fglrx 8.02
[02:13] <root------> prince_jammys ok
[02:13] <Riskbreaker> currently i cannot shutdown X without the computer freezing at a blank black screen. this affects full shut downs, reboots, ctrlaltbackspace. everything.
[02:13] <Riskbreaker> anyone know what i can do to fix it
[02:13] <prince_jammys> root------: then extract them and copy what you need, which seems to be everything
[02:13] <root------> prince_jammys how should i overwrite my home directory then? if i have the files?
[02:14] <prince_jammys> root------: you can just do it in the windows - extract first, and drag them in
[02:14] <prince_jammys> root------: make sure you "show hidden files" in konqueror
[02:14] <icanhasadmin> nope, crim is helping me tho :) thank you again however. i'll let you know how it goes
[02:14] <oloughlin75> good :)
[02:14] <oloughlin75> and good luck
[02:14] <root------> prince_jammys i will be using the home folder at that point.wont it have problems?
[02:15] <prince_jammys> root------: mmm
[02:15] <prince_jammys> root------: yes, it could
[02:16] <prince_jammys> root------: did you extract the folder?
[02:16] <unagi> does anyone know how to play dvd .iso in kubuntu?
[02:16] <root------> prince_jammys no just opened it
[02:17] <prince_jammys> root------: well, you could do this from a root account, which you probably don't have.   or you could do it from command line before logging in
[02:18] <prince_jammys> root------: or you could try it while logged in as your current user
[02:18] <root------> prince_jammys i dont have much diskspace now
[02:18] <root------> to extract it
[02:18] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, ati 8.02 driver ?...kinda old
[02:18] <prince_jammys> root------: isn't it only your settings?
[02:18] <Riskbreaker> February 2008
[02:18] <lascar> what's a good Publisher clone?
[02:19] <Riskbreaker> = 08.02
[02:19] <root------> prince_jammys yes.
[02:19] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, proprietary driver from the ATI site ?
[02:19] <prince_jammys> root------: then only extract your settings into a temporary folder
[02:19] <root------> prince_jammys i dont have much diskspace now
[02:19] <Riskbreaker> yes it's the newest one
[02:19] <root------> its a 5g file
[02:20] <unagi> !dvd
[02:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:20] <prince_jammys> root------: there's more than settings there, then
[02:20] <root------> prince_jammys just settings
[02:20] <lascar> !publisher
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about publisher - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <prince_jammys> root------: 5 gigs of settings?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, did you try the restricted ati driver in system settings/advanced ?
[02:21] <prince_jammys> root------: really, why don't you just reset the stuff the way you had it?
[02:21] <lascar> (why on earth would kde 3.5.9 not be properly supported?)
[02:21] <root------> ok
[02:22] <Riskbreaker> that is several months old, doesn't support aiglx, etc
[02:22] <BluesKaj> lascar, I'm using kde 3.5.9....ok so far , after 4 hrs or so :)
[02:22] <Riskbreaker> in other words, switching to that means i might as well use the non-3d driver
[02:23] <lascar> blueskaj: 4 hours?
[02:23] <matt____1> Hello everyone. I've written a tutorial on ripping a DVD to and iPod. I want it to be as easy as possible, so if you would be interested in going over this with me and telling me if you have ran into anything that isn't right or could use improvement, please take a look at this: http://linuxhack3r.com/ipod.html Suggestions can go the email at the bottom of the
[02:23] <matt____1>  page, or ou can personally email me an d we can AIM or something to really discuss it. Just remember this, I'm trying to make this easy even for "noobs".
[02:23] <matt____1> http://linuxhack3r.com/ipod.html
[02:23] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, with a couple of edits to the xorg.config file the restricted driver will do DRI and 3D
[02:24] <Riskbreaker> but not, under any circumstances, aiglx.
[02:24] <oloughlin75> matt____1: why not use linux native programs?
[02:24] <root------> prince_jammys what is the command to extract a bzip2 file to a specified locations?
[02:25] <bobby> matt___1: the page looks like a mess! haha
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, check this :http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/23/1913239
[02:26] <BluesKaj> yeah lascar , I just installed kde 3.5.9
[02:26] <biovore> matt____1: you can do that all with one line on the CLI using mencoder to encoder with ffmepg to make a mpeg4 video file.
[02:26] <lascar> blueskaj: why did it take 4 hours?
[02:26] <Riskbreaker> BluesKaj: that is the driver that was released in october, version 8.42. ATI does monthly driver releases; startnig the next month, they switched to a year-month version numbering scheme.
[02:27] <Riskbreaker> 8.02 is the newest restricted driver, it does aiglx and runs beautifully, the only problem i'm having is i can't end an X session
[02:27] <BluesKaj> lascar, I've been using it for 4 hrs , so far so good
[02:27] <lascar> oh ok
[02:28] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, i don't pay much attn cuz I don't use aiglx ...not a compiz-fusion user
[02:28] <matt____1> bobby: i know that...
[02:28] <Riskbreaker> that's okay
[02:28] <matt____1> biovore: really....
[02:28] <matt____1> oloughlin75: i've tried...i like "dvdbackup", but it doesn't get newer disks
[02:29] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, but I do like my google earth and it needs DRI and 3D
[02:30] <matt____1> biovore: how would you do such a thing? would it even rip the dvd first?
[02:30] <biovore> matt____1: nope..
[02:31] <matt____1> biovore: so you would still need to rip it using shrink or such wouldn't you?
[02:31] <unagi> can kubuntu not play friggen dvd .iso?
[02:31] <biovore> matt____1: 1 sec.. I'll figure out what the exact command line.. no need to rip..
[02:31] <biovore> If mplayer can play it.. you can transcode it..
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, you realize it may not be the graphics driver that's causing the hangup , it could be the monitor driver if you're using a desktop setup.
[02:33] <biovore> mencoder dvd://10 -vf lavcdeint  -ovc x264 -ofps 30000/1001 -oac copy -o filename.avi
[02:33] <biovore> that does x264
[02:34] <Riskbreaker> i am on a laptop
[02:34] <unagi> is there a way to make kubuntu recognize a mount point as a dvd drive
[02:34] <biovore> dvd chapter 10 to filename.avi
[02:34] <Riskbreaker> it's fglrx though. if i switch back to a regular open source driver it doesn't hang
[02:34] <BluesKaj> Riskbreaker, ok...another ATI bug to deal with :P
[02:35] <biovore> use -ovc lavc for mpeg4 from ffmpeg
[02:35] <Riskbreaker>  what a shocker!
[02:35] <biovore> use -ovc help for list of codecs..
[02:36] <matt____1> biovore: but...i'm confused..slightly...
[02:36] <root-----> media/sda4Backup$ bzip2 -d klast.000
[02:36] <root-----> bzip2: Can't guess original name for klast.000 -- using klast.000.out
[02:36] <matt____1> so can i take the command...and simply "convert" the dvd to a mp4 playable on my ipod?
[02:38] <biovore> matt____1: I think so.. I do x264 for my cowon a2
[02:38] <biovore> I beleve ipod need mpeg4
[02:39] <matt____1> biovore: mencoder...so is there a really good wiki for this? yeah it needs mp4, so can it specify resolution and such?
[02:39] <biovore> there are also other options.. like you might need to resize the frames to the size of the screen..
[02:39] <biovore> yeah you can using -vf
[02:39] <biovore> -vf scale=x:y I think
[02:39] <biovore> also can do post processing filtering and such
[02:39] <biovore> man mencoder
[02:40] <biovore> There are some howtos on line
[02:40] <matt____1> biovore: i'll definantly take a look at that...so it sounds like this may be the easy way...
[02:40] <draik> What is a good way of testing the FTP access to the server I'm trying to setup?
[02:41] <biovore> matt____1: it works from any thing that playable in mplayer can be encoding using that method.. no just dvd's ...  streaming video for instance :-P
[02:41] <draik> I want to make sure that it cannot be forced access entry.
[02:41] <biovore> its ftp.. just snifft and you have access :-P
[02:42] <biovore> draik: just try connecting to it.. konqueror works well on ftp
[02:42] <matt____1> biovore: so it sounds awesome...i'll try it...but i like the idea of handbrake. perhaps i'll just do a sudo mv /usr/bin/mencoder /usr/bin/handbrake ;)
[02:42] <draik> biovore: I want to make sure it cannot be brute forced.
[02:42] <intelikey> No manual entry for avidemux
[02:43] <biovore> its ftp.. it allways can be brute forced..
[02:43] <BluesKaj> intelikey, k9copy ?
[02:43] <biovore> unless you have some kind of firewall to limit access to the ftp
[02:43] <biovore> ssh/sftp is a better bet
[02:43] <draik> biovore: Put it this way. I want to brute force into it, but first I want to know how strong of a wall I can setup before I test it.
[02:43] <icanhasadmin> wpa-psk can be brute forced too, if you can live 15 billion years.
[02:44] <intelikey> BluesKaj ?
[02:44] <biovore> draik: the main problem with FTP is the fact nothing is encryped.. when you send your login info to the server for authentication.. anyone listening can see them in plan text..
[02:45] <biovore> if you want secure.. its highly not recommened
[02:45] <intelikey> BluesKaj just trying to copy the .vob files from a dvd to hd    was told to try avidemux   but now i see that it's some sort of gui Kr-app
[02:45] <draik> biovore: Hmmm. Interesting. Essentially I can test out the access for the username and password for the admin account easily?
[02:45] <draik> I want to make sure this doesn't happen.
[02:45] <BluesKaj> intelikey, for copying the conrent files off a dvd , k9copy is prolly the one to use.
[02:45] <biovore> draik: I think root user is disabled for FTP login.. (or should be)
[02:46] <intelikey> BluesKaj k9copy is more gui kr-app   i don't have gui
[02:46] <intelikey> i don't want gui
[02:46] <biovore> mencoder
[02:46] <icanhasadmin> i'm now going to screw with my DSDT. wish me luck.
[02:46] <tckb> hi kubuntu
[02:46] <Arwen> intelikey, AviSynth + VMWare :-P
[02:46] <tckb> i have a prob,em
[02:47] <Arwen> it's the complete opposite of GUI :-)
[02:47] <draik> biovore: Sorry, I think of my login as admin/root. How can I test the FTP access with a brute force?
[02:47] <tckb> i dont see the splash screen while booting
[02:47] <BluesKaj> intelikey, suddenly you're a CLI purist, what gives?
[02:47] <biovore> intelikey: transcode.. all command line :-)
[02:47] <biovore> and mencoder
[02:47] <biovore> does everything..
[02:47] <tckb> help me!!!
[02:47] <ForgeAus> ok what is PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ ' actually doing? I mean how do I mod it to be username instead of username@computername (I think thats what its doing)
[02:47] <biovore> tckb: nvidia gforce 8?
[02:47] <intelikey> Arwen and this will help me copy the .mov files from the dvd ?
[02:47] <tckb> nope
[02:48] <Arwen> intelikey, with a lot of effort, yes :-P
[02:48] <Arwen> AviSynth = programming language for video
[02:48] <tckb> i dont have any graphic accelarator
[02:48] <ForgeAus> in .bashrc
[02:48] <biovore> tckb: how you getting video then?
[02:48] <intelikey> Arwen looking.
[02:48] <Arwen> biovore, with a software framebuffer maybe?
[02:48] <Arwen> intelikey, hint: it runs on Windows.
[02:49] <biovore> has to have some video card in the thing..
[02:49] <intelikey> i understand
[02:49] <tckb> i meant i have no external ... my board is intel 845 GVSR
[02:49] <Arwen> biovore, doesn't necessarily have to be accelerated :-P
[02:49] <biovore> ah ok
[02:49] <tckb> it has onboard Graphic Acc/
[02:49] <BluesKaj> !cdrecord | intelikey
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrecord - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <biovore> you try disabling the start up graphics in grub ?
[02:49] <tckb> no
[02:50] <tckb> i didnt....
[02:50] <BluesKaj> anyway intelikey , man cderecord
[02:50] <biovore> tckb: when it boots... hit esc to get into the grub menu..
[02:50] <tckb> hmm
[02:50] <tckb> then
[02:50] <biovore> tckb: press e
[02:50] <tckb> okie.
[02:50] <BluesKaj> er cdrecord
[02:50] <tckb> after that....
[02:50] <biovore> tckb: delete the splash and quite entries..  then press enter. then b
[02:50] <biovore> see if it boots
[02:51] <biovore> (splash and quite are on the end of the kernel line)
[02:51] <tckb> yess it is booting ...  infact i actually  did it
[02:51] <biovore> so it looks like the kernel framebuffer dosn't like your card... same probablem with some nvidia gforce 8 series
[02:51] <tckb> :)
[02:52] <tckb> so what to do ?
[02:52] <Arwen> analog hole for drmed text is... digitizing the words?
[02:52] <tckb> isnt there any way to see
[02:53] <biovore> Arwen: screen capture and OCR :-P
[02:53] <Arwen> heh
[02:53] <biovore> tckb: after pressing enter.. did a bunch of text go by?
[02:57] <BluesKaj> BBL
[02:58] <mike18> my nvidia drivesr are all jacked
[02:58] <mike18> adept nvidia-glx-new didn't work quite right
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> quiet in here :)
[02:58] <mike18> can i do apt-get for nvidia package?
[02:59] <oloughlin75> mike18: you need to enable the right repos
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> namely, restricted
[02:59] <oloughlin75> to do apt-get install nvidia-flx-new
[02:59] <toyo|desk> wow ubuntu chan is way busy
[02:59] <Arwen> ubuntu-chan?
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... 1100 people in there at times :)
[02:59] <toyo|desk> #ubuntu
[02:59] <unagi> yea its usually more active than here
[02:59] <Arwen> I wouldn't know, I'm banned :-\
[03:00] <unagi> they get angry when i ask questions about kubuntu
[03:00] <toyo|desk> haha
[03:00] <Arwen> #ubuntu can cause eye cancer :-\
[03:00] <toyo|desk> I need to find out if this usb chipset that I am looking at buying will work in kubuntu
[03:00] <toyo|desk> its an NEC
[03:00] <toyo|desk> :/
[03:01] <Arwen> what's a USB chipset?
[03:01] <toyo|desk> looked on ubuntuhcl.org didnt see it
[03:01] <toyo|desk> the controller
[03:01] <prince_jammys> !hardware | toyo|desk
[03:01] <ubotu> toyo|desk: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:01] <toyo|desk> woo hoo
[03:01] <toyo|desk> ty
[03:01] <toyo|desk> I will take a look
[03:02] <intelikey> dvdbackup - tool to rip DVD's from the command line
[03:02] <unagi> yea too bad kubuntu cant play dvds from iso
[03:02] <Arwen> sure it can
[03:02] <toyo|desk> mplayer
[03:02] <Arwen> mplayer -dvd-device file.iso
[03:02] <toyo|desk> :)
[03:02] <toyo|desk> indeed
[03:02] <unagi> why couldnt that be said earlier when i asked
[03:02] <unagi> geee
[03:02] <mike18> couldn't find nvidia-flx-new package
[03:03] <unagi> does that support menus too?
[03:03] <mike18> oloughlin75: how do i enable restricted repos and which one?
[03:03] <Arwen> mplayer -dvd-device file.iso dvdmenu://
[03:03] <Arwen> although that probably won't work very well if at all
[03:03] <bobby> its too bad kpdf cant print 6 pages to a single sheet!
[03:03]  * toyo|desk uses the mplayer gui
[03:03] <toyo|desk> :D
[03:04] <oloughlin75> mike18: open adept and click adept -> manage repositories. Restricted is one of the ones listed
[03:04] <mike18> adept is what i used earlier to do the nvidia-glx-new and it didnt work
[03:04] <mike18> k
[03:04] <toyo|desk> gmplayer is what I use
[03:04] <toyo|desk> :D
[03:04] <unagi> heh
[03:04] <unagi> it didnt play
[03:05] <Arwen> heh, MPlayer needs a special version of libdvdnav to be compiled in
[03:05] <Arwen> and it usually doesn't work
[03:05] <icanhasadmin> Hey, I"m getting a permission denied error while trying to write my dsdt to a file with cat.. any ideas?
[03:05] <unagi> i did sudo mplayer -dvd-device MONSTERS__INC_.ISO but it didnt work =(
[03:05] <unagi> displayed a bunch of options and goes back to $
[03:05] <oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: sudo ,,,
[03:05] <icanhasadmin> I used "sudo cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > DSDT.dat"
[03:05] <icanhasadmin> :P
[03:06] <unagi> Arwen: any ideas?
[03:06] <Arwen> unagi, mplayer -dvd-device blah.iso dvd://1
[03:06] <Arwen> you forgot the urkl
[03:06] <toyo|desk> unagi, why are you using sudo
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> intelikey » yeah... you have to actually BE root in order to write there
[03:06] <Arwen> url*
[03:06] <Arwen> and yeah, NO SUDO
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin » ^^
[03:06] <unagi> to see if that was why it didnt work
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> intelikey » many pardons for using your nick in vain
[03:06] <Arwen> mplayer = major buffer overflow/lulz factor
[03:06] <Arwen> mplayer as root = lulz hax
[03:06] <toyo|desk> lol
[03:07] <icanhasadmin> was someone talking to me? with the no sudo? with "sudo cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > DSDT.dat" ?
[03:07]  * toyo|desk sits back and waits for unagi's pc to burst into flames
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin » yeah... you have to enable the root user and do it from there
[03:07] <toyo|desk> icanhasadmin, is your name unagi?
[03:07] <icanhasadmin> unagi = yummy yummy yummy. I'm going to open an unagi stand in america
[03:07] <toyo|desk> haha
[03:07] <Arwen> doesn't unagi mean "the same"?
[03:08] <Arwen> anyway...
[03:08] <icanhasadmin> can you describe "enable root user" to a nubcake like me?
[03:08] <toyo|desk> sudo su
[03:08] <icanhasadmin> unagi... is eel?
[03:08] <toyo|desk> that should do the trick
[03:08] <unagi> no controls with mpalyer?
[03:08] <toyo|desk> :)
[03:08] <Arwen> icanhasadmin, root has no password by default
[03:08] <Arwen> you can give him one with sudo passwd root
[03:08] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3b0d48
[03:08] <icanhasadmin> ty
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> icanhasadmin » yeah.... you use sudo... which temorarily gives you admin priveledges.. but not the provieldge to write to /proc
[03:08] <Arwen> you probably don't *need* to do that though
[03:08] <unagi> wow
[03:08] <unagi> mplayer wont play full screen?
[03:08] <Arwen> you can't write to /proc with sudo?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> Arwen » no no.... just sudo passwd
[03:08] <Arwen> unagi, -fs?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> Arwen » nope
[03:09] <toyo|desk> nosrednaekim, sudo su should suffice to write to proc
[03:09] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, what about sudo -i?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> Arwen » no.. thats just sudo.... but toyo|desk may be right..
[03:09] <mike18> oloughlin75: i'm in manage repositories where do i see restricted as one listed
[03:09] <toyo|desk> then when done type exit
[03:09] <icanhasadmin> ty very much
[03:09] <toyo|desk> it will make you root
[03:09] <unagi> dang it
[03:09] <unagi> no menus lol
[03:10] <Arwen> unagi, that's dvdmenu://
[03:10] <Arwen> which probably won't work
[03:10] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: whatre the restricted called for mike18?
[03:10] <mike18> oloughlin75: proprietary drivers for devices (restricted) is checked
[03:10] <oloughlin75> mike18: thats what you need
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » restricted I think.... yeah thats the one mike18
[03:10] <unagi> ok lets try again
[03:10] <mike18> it is checked
[03:10] <unagi> is there a way to do the same thing daemon tools does for windows
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » and the package "nvidia-glx-new" isn't in your lists?
[03:10] <mike18> so before i installed the nvidia-glx-new and it didn't work
[03:10] <mike18> it is
[03:10] <oloughlin75> unagi: mount
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> unagi » what does that do?
[03:10] <mike18> u said flx a min ago
[03:11] <mike18> why don't i want to do apt-get
[03:11] <unagi> it mounts an .iso to a virtual dvd
[03:11] <tckb> biovore: yess it did
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » did you try using the restricted-manager?
[03:11] <mike18> cause i just went down this route
[03:11] <unagi> meaning windows sees it as a dvd
[03:11] <prince_jammys> !nvidia | mike18
[03:11] <ubotu> mike18: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> unagi » ah.. yes there is
[03:11] <mike18> i dunno how to use restricted manager
[03:11] <unagi> what is it?
[03:11] <mike18> prince_jammys thank i already tried that
[03:11] <mike18> if you would read what i'm saying
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » run "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde"
[03:11] <oloughlin75> mike18: open up console then do "sudo apt-get update"
[03:11] <unagi> nosrednaekim: do you know the name of it?
[03:11] <tckb> biovore u there
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> unagi » ah....nope :)
[03:12] <intelikey> Arwen toyo|desk and nosrednaekim   sudo does not change the ownership of the fd (stdout)  so using sudo to redirrect output does not produce a root owned write   i.e.  sudo echo boo > /testing  will fail.    use a root owned process like tee    sudo echo boo | tee -a /testing     will write both to the userowned stdout and to the root owned process of writing /testing     ffr.
[03:12] <unagi> you would think thered be an easy way to mount dvd movie .isos with linux
[03:12] <Arwen> ok... brain overload
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> intelikey » gracias.... your name was not in vain :)
[03:12] <mike18> nosrednaekim: that command didnt work
[03:12] <Arwen> unagi, mount -o loopback file.iso mountpoint -t iso9660 ?
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » are you using gutsy?
[03:12] <Arwen> !iso
[03:12] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:12] <mike18> kdesudo not found
[03:12] <mike18> 7.04 feisty
[03:13] <unagi> that doesnt work Arwen i wish it did
[03:13] <mike18> i'm trying to run linuxmce on this machine they say not to update the OS
[03:13] <intelikey> sorry misplaced sudo in the second example.   echo boo | sudo tee -a /blah
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » ah! ok, then run "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" and then "kdesu restricted-manager"
[03:13] <mike18> but i just need the video driver
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » this is the easiest way to doit
[03:13] <intelikey> but you understand both how and why now     ^
[03:13] <Arwen> unagi, o.O
[03:13] <mike18> could not lock
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » cloes adept
[03:14] <icanhasadmin> everytime you say his name i get hungry
[03:14] <tckb> hello???
[03:14] <prince_jammys> close the other
[03:14] <oloughlin75> !adeptfix | mike18
[03:14] <ubotu> mike18: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:14] <mike18> ah haa
[03:14] <toyo|desk> intelikey, yeah when I need to do things like that I become root with sudo su do my job and get out
[03:14] <unagi> Arwen: im intrigued that many of m y problems with kubuntu, seem simple to me, yet are hard to communicate to the community
[03:14] <unagi> Arwen: lemme try it this way
[03:14] <oloughlin75> unagi: are you the one who wants to mount an iso?
[03:14] <mike18> ok nosrednaekim: it tells me "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » ha.
[03:15] <mike18> this is such a bitch
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » you sure you have an nvidia?
[03:15] <intelikey> toyo|desk you can use as many processes as you like.  but  sudo su   is redundant.   sudo -i   is what you want.   or at least use   sudo su -
[03:15] <unagi> oloughlin75: for sake of clarification i can mount an iso...........i would like linux to see it as a dvd
[03:15] <mike18> everyone tells me scrwe ATI nvidia is way to go
[03:15] <mike18> yes
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » how old?
[03:15] <mike18> GT 7600 device id 0x0391
[03:15] <mike18> brand new
[03:15] <mike18> got in mail today
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> huh,......
[03:15] <oloughlin75> mike18: what graphics card does your computer have?
[03:15] <toyo|desk> intelikey true sudo su - is more appropriate
[03:15] <mike18> ati onboard
[03:16] <mike18> but not using
[03:16] <unagi> Arwen: i would like to mount a dvd movie .iso so that linux sees it as a dvd movie to which i can have kaffiene or something open the disk as if i had it in the dvd drive
[03:16] <intelikey> toyo|desk and equal to  sudo -i
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » did you disaable that in your bios?
[03:16] <mike18> nvidia PCI card
[03:16] <mike18> no
[03:16] <mike18> i will
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » ah.... do that
[03:16] <mike18> k then what
[03:16] <Arwen> unagi, if you mount it, you can open the mount point as though it were the DVD
[03:16] <mike18> i'll still prob have same problems
[03:16] <Arwen> or you can play the ISO
[03:16] <mike18> u recommend tryign restricted-manager again or just do adept method
[03:16] <mike18> or apt-get
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » ten try reinstalling the nvidia drivers.....last timeit was probably looking in the wrong place for the graphics card
[03:17] <toyo|desk> intelikey, never seen sudo -i before
[03:17] <toyo|desk> hehe
[03:17] <oloughlin75> Arwen: you can play iso's directly?
[03:17] <toyo|desk> good to know
[03:17] <unagi> Arwen: it doesnt show up in storage media, nor can i seleect it as a device in media players, therefore they wont play it as if it is a dvd
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » restricted manager if it tells you there is an nvidia card
[03:17] <Arwen> sudo -i = bash with root's profile
[03:17] <icanhasadmin> So wait, how is sudo su different from sudo -i?
[03:17] <toyo|desk> I see
[03:17] <Arwen> oloughlin75, mplayer can
[03:17] <toyo|desk> I just tried it
[03:17] <oloughlin75> Arwen: cool
[03:17] <Arwen> unagi, ah.. hehe
[03:17] <unagi> Arwen: how about graphically
[03:17] <toyo|desk> I always just did sudo su
[03:17] <Arwen> unagi, write a script :-)
[03:17] <intelikey> toyo|desk that's what man pages are for      (real men use man pages!)
[03:17] <oloughlin75> unagi: locate the mount point
[03:17] <Arwen> SMPlayer works too
[03:17] <unagi> oloughlin75: what will that do
[03:17] <unagi> oloughlin75: meaning i know where i mounted it, i want it to be seen as a dvd  not a folder
[03:18] <mike18> nosrednaekim: u think in my bios "internal graphics mode" is it?
[03:18] <mike18> i dont see anything about onboard video other than that
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » its possible
[03:18] <oloughlin75> unagi: select the folder
[03:18] <unagi> ?
[03:18] <mike18> init display first was set to PCI slot
[03:18] <unagi> am i really not being clear?
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » hrm...
[03:18] <toyo|desk> hmm well I am getting nowhere fast with this usb chipset
[03:18] <toyo|desk> maybe I should just buy it and hope for the best
[03:18] <toyo|desk> :D
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> and expect the worst
[03:19] <mike18> well booting back to kubuntu now
[03:19] <mike18> give it a shot
[03:19] <oloughlin75> unagi: if mplayer plays iso's directly, why bother mounting? I understand what you are doing, but iv never actually -done- it ;)
[03:19] <mike18> i cant believe how much trouble i'm having getting video drivers to work
[03:19] <mike18> what a bitch
[03:19] <toyo|desk> mike18, what card
[03:19] <oloughlin75> mike18: restricted drivers should *just work*
[03:19] <mike18> EVGA
[03:19] <toyo|desk> erm chipset
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> my brother has the same card....
[03:19] <mike18> nvidia geforce 7600 gt
[03:19] <toyo|desk> oh
[03:19] <unagi> oloughlin75: all i want is a graphical video player to play my .iso with media controls and menus
[03:19] <intelikey> anagi "i know where i mounted it, i want it to be seen as a dvd  not a folder"   anything mounted is seen as a folder      or should i say EVERYTHING mounted is always seen as a folder.
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » did you have the ati drivers installed previously?
[03:20] <toyo|desk> never owned nvidia
[03:20] <mike18> newegg had it higly rated
[03:20] <mike18> yes i did have ati drivers installed previously
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » yeah.. its a nice one
[03:20] <oloughlin75> unagi: so poen mplayer?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » did you uninstall them?
[03:20] <mike18> i used envy to install them and then envy to uninstall
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> envy! nooooooo!
[03:20] <mike18> yeah yeah
[03:20] <mike18> i heard it all before
[03:20] <mike18> too late
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> mmmhm
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> it may be
[03:20] <mike18> ppl recommended it for ATI
[03:21] <mike18> maybe i'll just reinstall Kubuntu on this partition
[03:21] <mike18> shits pissing me off
[03:21] <mike18> proby would be faster that way
[03:21] <toyo|desk> lol
[03:21] <mike18> except the linuxmce install took forever
[03:21] <oloughlin75> unagi: open mplayer and open the iso
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[03:21] <unagi> oloughlin75: mplayer doesnt have menu support
[03:21] <oloughlin75> unagi: right click?
[03:21] <oloughlin75> oo
[03:21] <unagi> ?
[03:21] <toyo|desk> why can you not install the nvidia drivers eg what error is it saying
[03:21] <unagi> seriously am i being vague
[03:21] <mike18> so nosrednaekim: is there anything i can do to make sure the ati drivers are uninstalled?
[03:22] <oloughlin75> unagi: you mean menu on the dvd or in the program?
[03:22] <unagi> dvd
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » not really if you installed them with envy
[03:22] <mike18> in my xorg.conf under Device section the driver is listed as "nv"
[03:22] <oloughlin75> unagi: ill try it
[03:22] <mike18> bah
[03:22] <unagi> sure mplayer is playing my dvd...........but a. i cant get to the extra features and b. i cant even start the movie
[03:22] <toyo|desk> heh what happens when you manually change it to nvidia mike18
[03:22] <unagi> and i get a gnome_screensaver_control() error
[03:22] <vanchuck> kde is kicking me back out to the kubuntu login screen after I login-- it's getting to initializing system services then black screen, then login screen. This is a fresh install, except rebooting after apt-get upgrade
[03:22] <vanchuck> any ideas?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> vanchuck » did you copy over a previous home partition?
[03:23] <mike18> i did that then i got black screen w/ cursor
[03:23] <mike18> went looked at log
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> vanchuck » or home folder
[03:23] <vanchuck> nosrednaekim:  it was a previously-used partition, but no existing files in the home dir
[03:24] <vanchuck> just a single backup dir
[03:24] <mike18> said failed to load NVIDIA kernel module!
[03:24] <mike18> so i changed back to "nv" and here i am
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[03:24] <mike18> did sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new
[03:24] <toyo|desk> mike18, open a command line and try sudo modprobe nvidia
[03:24] <mike18> is actually where i am now
[03:24] <toyo|desk> see what happens
[03:24] <toyo|desk> oh
[03:24] <toyo|desk> ok
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> vanchuck » ok. is your disk near full?
[03:25] <prince_jammys> what about dpkg -reconfigure x-server-xorg
[03:25] <vanchuck> nope, it's a 1tb software raid5 using md, except for boot partition
[03:25] <mike18> fatal: could not open //lib/modules/2.6...../nvidia.ko no such file / dir
[03:25] <toyo|desk> mike18, ok so its not installed
[03:25] <toyo|desk> cool
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> vanchuck » well, if its a fresh install, run "rm -rf .kde"
[03:26] <toyo|desk> so you need to reinstall the nvidia driver
[03:26] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: what the -f?
[03:26] <intelikey> vanchuck you may obtain information on what is failing if you  a) press crtl+alt+f1  b) login and run sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop  c) run startx    #note any error messages marked by EE  d) run sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start  # to return you to the present state of graphical login
[03:26] <mike18> yes toyo|desk: what method
[03:26] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: recusive and whats the f?
[03:26] <mike18> restricted-manager still tells me my hardware does not need update
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » force.... i.e., don't ask questions
[03:27] <oloughlin75> ah
[03:27] <toyo|desk> mike may need to do it through apt-get
[03:27] <vanchuck> nosrednaekim and intelikey: trying stuff, thanks!
[03:27] <mike18> not adept?
[03:27] <mike18> its in there
[03:28] <toyo|desk> or that
[03:28] <mike18> shoudl i also select nvidia-settings
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> mike18 » that works too
[03:28] <mike18> and nvidia-xconfig
[03:28] <unagi> i swear man kubuntu wigs out on me alot
[03:28] <unagi> oloughlin75: did you make any progress?
[03:29] <intelikey> unagi heh.  long time sense i heard that expression.
[03:29] <oloughlin75> unagi: nah, i dont feel like getting a dvd and trying it out
[03:29] <bobby> are you guys going to let me boot into windows just to print 6 pages on a single sheet?! haha
[03:29] <oloughlin75> bobby: YES
[03:29] <intelikey> bobby yes
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> bobby » uhhhh..... I don't know how to do it..ut that doesn't mean its impossible
[03:29] <toyo|desk> so mike18 you can use adept to install it if you want
[03:30] <toyo|desk> when you do that then try to modprobe nvidia again
[03:30] <unagi> does ANYONE know of a way to play dvd .iso with menus?
[03:30] <Arwen> use VLC? :-P
[03:30] <intelikey> unagi did you try vlc ?
[03:30] <Arwen> VLC can play ISOs
[03:30] <Arwen> VLC supports menus
[03:30] <Arwen> ergo VLC can play ISOs with menus
[03:31]  * intelikey uses vlc in the console
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> later guys.... good luck with your troubles :)
[03:31] <bobby> sorry guys, thought it would be a relatively easy questions for people as experienced as you. didnt mean to be a pest
[03:31] <unagi> hey so it does
[03:31] <unagi> too bad it doesnt recognize media buttons
[03:31] <unagi> bobby: what problems do you have?
[03:32] <Shinigami_Draik> Is anyone here CEH certified?
[03:32] <intelikey> bobby i have setup cups about three times in my life and used it about twice.    so printing questions   i normally ignore.
[03:32] <bobby> unagi: trying to print 6 pages of a pdf on a single sheet.
[03:32] <Shinigami_Draik> Wait, that's redundant.
[03:33] <oloughlin75> Shinigami_Draik: he means shrink the pages and place 6 on the paper
[03:33] <unagi> bobby: why would you want to do that
[03:33] <bobby> intellikey: then ignore it, the attitude isnt really needed.
[03:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> bobby: nor is yours
[03:33] <intelikey> bobby oh and i don't like/do pdf   so that's two reasons i didn't try to help.
[03:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> unagi: there are plenty of reasons
[03:34] <oloughlin75> bobby: but, youll keep pestering. you have for a while
[03:34] <bobby> unagi: because i want to save paper, plus, each slide of this presentation has a huge solid black strip, im trying to cut down on the toner use as well.
[03:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> what are you using?
[03:34] <Shinigami_Draik> oloughlin75: huh?
[03:34] <unagi> you arent going to be able to read it
[03:34] <oloughlin75> Shinigami_Draik: what were you talking about being redundant? :)
[03:34] <toyo|desk> Shinigami_Draik, why are you looking for a certified ethical hacker
[03:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> unagi: that isn't necessarily true
[03:34]  * intelikey wasn't offering any attitude,   he only has enough for himself.
[03:34] <Shinigami_Draik> oloughlin75: CEH certified is redundant.
[03:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> pdf != bunches and bunches of text, not necessarily anyway
[03:34] <ForgeAus> hehe
[03:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> i get slides of notes from school that i print out six to a page
[03:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> pdfs
[03:35] <ForgeAus> I hate pdf
[03:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> so...  yeah.
[03:35] <ForgeAus> kpdf is nice tho
[03:35] <oloughlin75> Shinigami_Draik: thought you were talking about the pdf thing... so nvm :)
[03:35] <toyo|desk> Shinigami_Draik...
[03:35] <Shinigami_Draik> toyo|desk: I want to know the legalities to testing my FTP access. I have it with a certain provider that has my information but I want to test it legally.
[03:35] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop correct could be a cartoon strip.  mostly pictures.
[03:35] <ForgeAus> I think its mostly adobe I hate
[03:35] <icanhasadmin> anyone familiar with DSDTs? I just decompiled mine and it seems much odder than most examples i've seen
[03:35] <toyo|desk> Shinigami_Draik, what do you mean "test it"
[03:35] <intelikey> ForgeAus ^5
[03:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: exactly, i'm saying there are plenty of reasons to print six pages to a page with pdf
[03:36] <intelikey> right.
[03:36] <toyo|desk> Shinigami_Draik, in order to do any sort of "pen test" you need to have written permission signed
[03:37] <icanhasadmin> is that a no on the dsdt?
[03:37] <tckb> anybody there?
[03:37] <toyo|desk> otherwise you risk severe legal action
[03:37] <prince_jammys> !info pdfsnup | bobby
[03:37] <ubotu> bobby: Package pdfsnup does not exist in gutsy
[03:37] <icanhasadmin> always tck
[03:37] <prince_jammys> ha
[03:37] <bobby> oloughlin75: true i have asked i think 4 times, i have been very patient though. I didn't realize i could only ask questions that you felt were worthy of a response in a irc room to support new users. geez..
[03:37] <tckb> guys i have prob while bootinng
[03:37] <prince_jammys> !info pdfnup | bobby
[03:37] <ubotu> bobby: Package pdfnup does not exist in gutsy
[03:38] <prince_jammys> mmm
[03:38] <intelikey> DSDT ?
[03:38] <oloughlin75> bobby: you kept continuelly posting the go back to windows thing
[03:39] <icanhasadmin> Differentiated System Description Table
[03:39] <Shinigami_Draik> toyo|desk: Thanks for the help.
[03:40] <intelikey> bobby is this guy hasseling you ?
[03:40] <bobby> oloughlin75: you're right, and i am wrong. in fact i posted the message twice, easily verifiable by scrolling up. if continuously means twice. i bow before the kde god you are, please forgive me your majesty. oh my
[03:40] <tckb> i dont see my spalsh sceen while booting
[03:40] <icanhasadmin> hey stop arguing like tehgays and lets just fix bobby's problem
[03:41] <bobby> intelikey: yes, icanhasadmin: thank you
[03:41] <Shinigami_Draik> bobby: What seems to be the issue?
[03:42] <bobby> shinigami_draik: can not figure out how to print 6 pages of a pdf onto 1 sheet of paper.
[03:42] <Shinigami_Draik> My understanding is that you want to put a few presentation pages on a single sheet
[03:43] <bobby> shinigami_draik: correct
[03:43] <Shinigami_Draik> bobby: Let me create a 6 page PDF and I will test it for you. Give me a little bit.
[03:43] <bobby> shinigami_draik: thanks
[03:43] <icanhasadmin> Yeah, that isn't going to be easy.
[03:43] <Kill_yOuR_iDoL> h
[03:44] <icanhasadmin> Kill_yOuR_iDoL:  your nick seems angry
[03:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> bobby: what are you using?
[03:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> kpdf, evince, adobe's official reader?
[03:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay...
[03:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> kpdf will only allow 4 sheets to a page
[03:45] <tckb> hello???????
[03:46] <icanhasadmin> how do you know that
[03:46] <intelikey> tckb
[03:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> icanhasadmin: i just tried
[03:46] <oloughlin75> bobby: the official adobe pdf reder should do the 6 oges
[03:46] <Shinigami_Draik> bobby: I am able to print 4 pages, but not 6
[03:46] <icanhasadmin> oh lol nice
[03:46] <tckb> anyone please help me
[03:46] <bobby> Daisuke: kubuntu 7.10, kpdf
[03:46] <intelikey> !acroread
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <intelikey> !find acroread
[03:46] <ubotu> File acroread found in apparmor-profiles, gworkspace-apps-wrappers, zsh, zsh-beta
[03:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> evince will do 1, 2, 4, 6, or 10
[03:47] <Shinigami_Draik> bobby: 1, 2, and 4 per sheet.
[03:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo apt-get install evince
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[03:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's a gtk+ app, but certainly gets the job done
[03:47] <intelikey> hummm.   there is an official package of acroread somewhere.  maybe i'm not spelling it correctly?
[03:47] <intelikey> tckb only if you give us more information to work with.
[03:47] <bobby> oloughlin75: i'll try that, thanks. shinigami: thanks for trying
[03:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> !find acrobat
[03:48] <vanchuck> tckb: you can get rid of the splash screen from appearing by removing "splash" from your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[03:48] <ubotu> Package/file acrobat does not exist in gutsy
[03:48] <toyo|desk> I have adobe reader 8 on here
[03:48] <bobby> Daisuke: thanks!
[03:48] <oloughlin75> intelikey: whats it supposed to be?
[03:48] <tckb> i have provided the info 3 times
[03:48] <prince_jammys> !info acroread
[03:48] <ubotu> Package acroread does not exist in gutsy
[03:48] <vanchuck> but I have the same issue, it's because my nvidia card doesn't work until the kernel can load the nvidia module
[03:48] <prince_jammys> i'm showing it
[03:48] <oloughlin75> !adobereader
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobereader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <oloughlin75> !find adobereader
[03:48] <prince_jammys> acroread - Adobe Reader - binary files
[03:48] <ubotu> Package/file adobereader does not exist in gutsy
[03:48] <tckb> yess i know i can .... but i want to see the splash screen
[03:49] <oloughlin75> you can download it off adobe... the dev file
[03:49] <oloughlin75> deb
[03:49] <intelikey> oloughlin75 acroread i think is the name.  it may not be in the official repos tho.  that's why i tried the !acroread first
[03:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> acroread's in the commercial repo
[03:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> and again, evince will do it
[03:49] <toyo|desk> greg@p4killa:~$ apt-cache search acroread
[03:49] <toyo|desk> acroread - Adobe Reader - binary files
[03:49] <toyo|desk> acroread-escript - Adobe Reader - EScript plug-in
[03:49] <toyo|desk> acroread-plugins - Adobe Reader - extra plug-ins
[03:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> and do it easily
[03:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> !evince
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evince - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <vanchuck> tckb: try looking up info on setting the resolution in the grub file... format is vga=###
[03:49] <intelikey> ah commercial   see i knew i had seen it.
[03:49] <vanchuck> tckb: and setting mode to vesa
[03:49] <bobby> Daisuke: where would i find that, apparently i already have it
[03:49] <vanchuck> never done it myself tho, sorry
[03:50] <tckb> how to set the mode to vesa
[03:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> bobby: i don't use kde anymore, but check...  accessories or system
[03:50] <prince_jammys> bobby: type evince
[03:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> if neither work, hit alt-f2 and run it that way
[03:50] <intelikey> !usplash | tckb
[03:50] <ubotu> tckb: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:50] <tckb> u mean like vga =vesa
[03:51] <oloughlin75> wow adobe reader runs so much faster on linux
[03:51] <vanchuck> tckb: add vga=791 to the end of the kernel line in menu.lst
[03:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> but it's still adobe reader :\
[03:51] <vanchuck> (info from http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/grub.html)
[03:52] <prince_jammys> tckb: no splash when you start?
[03:52] <tckb> yesss <prince_jammys>
[03:53] <intelikey> vanchuck the thing i don't like about the vga= dirrective is that it's kernel specific.   changes with time.
[03:53] <prince_jammys> tckb: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[03:53] <bobby> daisuke: pages per side is greyed out
[03:54] <bobby> daisuke: n/m got it
[03:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> there ya go :)
[03:57] <intelikey> you know.  the more i think about it.  there is a lot of software that i didn't like the first time i heard of them, and didn't even know why.   and every one of them have turned out to be propritary (non-free) .....      and linux didn't even exist back then so you can imagine...
[04:00] <ibilic> guys I am about to reinstall windows because of a stupid trojan... I have installed windows first, and then Kubuntu... is there anything I should watch out for?
[04:00] <oloughlin75> ibilic: youll have to reinstall grub if you want to use kubuntu again
[04:00] <intelikey> ibilic don't let it destroy the partitions  or reformat your linux install.  and you'll have to reinstall grub after
[04:01] <ibilic> linux is on another partition
[04:01] <vanchuck> (if I were you, I'd reinstall kubutu first... and then just never reinstall windows :-P)
[04:01] <ibilic> windows has its own partition
[04:01] <intelikey> and will want to format both
[04:02] <ibilic> how do I reinstall grub?
[04:02] <intelikey> !grub | ibilic
[04:02] <ubotu> ibilic: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:02] <unagi> wow vmware SLOWS down my pc
[04:02] <intelikey> of course
[04:02] <oloughlin75> ibilic: that first link is what yoll have to do
[04:02] <intelikey> it's a machine emulator
[04:03] <unagi> didnt use to
[04:03] <intelikey> well i kinda doubt that that is entirely true.  but by your preception ok.   and that would mean that something is misconfigured.
[04:04] <intelikey> "there is no such thing as a machine emulator that doesn't eat resources"
[04:04] <unagi> that woul dindicate it eats resources ALL the time
[04:04] <unagi> which it doesnt
[04:05] <intelikey> all the time it's active it does
[04:05] <unagi> ok
[04:05] <vanchuck> for future reference, i would encourage everyone here to NOT upgrade directly from 7.10 to 8.06
[04:05] <vanchuck> it's been a long day of recovery, hehe.
[04:05] <unagi> what is 8.06
[04:05] <vanchuck> Hardy
[04:05] <oloughlin75> 8.04
[04:05] <vanchuck> er
[04:05] <vanchuck> ya
[04:05] <unagi> ooooh 8.04
[04:06] <oloughlin75> :)
[04:06] <unagi> when its 04 2008 im sure 7.10 to 8.04 will be ok
[04:06] <intelikey> alpha/beta  year.month  so 8.4 == 8.04 == 2008.04
[04:06] <vanchuck> ooh, it all makes sense now. thanks
[04:08] <intelikey> and hardy is alpha  or is it beta now.  anyway  it's not a release yet.  so it isn't actually 8.4  it's just proposed 8.4
[04:08] <unagi> when is kde 4 gonna be bug freeish
[04:08] <intelikey> never
[04:08] <oloughlin75> unagi: i havent seen any bugs
[04:08] <NickPresta> unagi, KDE 4.1?
[04:08] <vanchuck> I think Hardy is on RC4 now... definately nothing resembling a stable release
[04:08] <intelikey> but it will probably me most stable just after kde5 comes out
[04:09] <oloughlin75> lol
[04:09] <unagi> i guess
[04:09] <unagi> i heard alot of bad reviews for kde 4
[04:09] <oloughlin75> unagi: its not bugy... theres not enough to be bugy :/
[04:09] <oloughlin75> maybe the new effects
[04:10] <unagi> when is apt-get install kubuntu-desktop going to include kde 4
[04:10] <intelikey> 8.10 maybe
[04:10] <oloughlin75> unagi: it does if you have the right repos
[04:10] <oloughlin75> ooo nvm
[04:10] <ibilic> where does wine put files if I am downloading them into C:
[04:10] <ibilic> C:
[04:10] <vanchuck> so strange... my boot partition is on /dev/sda1, but grub for some reason sees that partition as hd(1,0)
[04:10] <ibilic> C:/temp
[04:10] <madrush> help - id like to know how to change the default switches for /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd
[04:10] <intelikey> ibilic .wine/C
[04:11] <intelikey> ibilic ~/.wine/C
[04:11] <prince_jammys> ibilic: your fake c drive is located at .wine/drive_c
[04:11] <intelikey> prince_jammys hmm they've changed it...
[04:11] <prince_jammys> oh
[04:11] <prince_jammys> you mean its c or drive_c
[04:12] <unagi> wine wont let me uninstall anything
[04:12] <intelikey> prince_jammys i am assumeing you mean it is now drive_c   it used to just be C
[04:12] <intelikey> but that was when wine was young
[04:12] <unagi> any good games for kubuntu?
[04:12] <prince_jammys> yes, i installed it last year and it went to drive_c
[04:13] <intelikey> k
[04:13] <intelikey> unagi   kolf is pretty good
[04:13] <oloughlin75> unagi: what kind of games are you after?
[04:13] <unagi> nexuiz and open arena are pretty good
[04:13] <unagi> something of that quality
[04:13] <unagi> itd be easier if i could sort them by rating in the adebt installer
[04:13] <intelikey> quality !- type
[04:14] <intelikey> err !=
[04:14] <unagi> huh?
[04:14] <intelikey> quality != type
[04:14] <unagi> oh i get it
[04:14] <unagi> like a script
[04:14] <unagi> i dont know someonthing fun
[04:14] <unagi> 3d
[04:14] <intelikey> you can have a very high quality game of a type that you don't like at all.
[04:15] <oloughlin75> unagi: neverball can be a good timewaster
[04:15] <intelikey> or a game you really like of poor quality
[04:15] <vanchuck> ho hum, automatix website is down
[04:15] <intelikey> !automatix
[04:15] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:15] <unagi> !worksforme
[04:15] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[04:16] <vanchuck> lol nice
[04:18] <unagi> !games
[04:18] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:19] <intelikey> i like that   http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/  page.  it kinda makes me want to tell people "it works for me"    lol
[04:19] <unagi> im ready to reformate
[04:19] <unagi> reformat
[04:19] <intelikey> nascar= go fast,  turn left.
[04:20] <unagi> this laptop needs more storage
[04:20] <unagi> i think im going to get a 300gb hd
[04:20] <unagi> after i get a job of course
[04:20] <unagi> being uneployed sucks
[04:20] <intelikey> put in the trunk of your car for a month.      oh not that kind of storage... never mind
[04:22] <intelikey> computer with most storage = vic 20 in cardboard box in warehouse never sold.
[04:24] <oloughlin75> arena is like warsow
[04:25] <oloughlin75> and warsow is in the repos!
[04:25] <Deliantra> intelikey: helps if you have a car
[04:25] <intelikey> norv umm yeah
[04:26] <intelikey> you know most people in here seem to like text based games,  like....
[04:26] <intelikey> irc = multiplayer notepad
[04:26] <norv> no, that'd be gorm.. or something, can't remember the name
[04:26] <norv> :P
[04:27] <oloughlin75> lol
[04:27] <norv> gobby. not gorm, which is a GUI editor
[04:27] <genii> Zork
[04:28] <intelikey> irc = multiplayer vim  ?
[04:28] <genii> bah, vim
[04:28] <oloughlin75> whats vim?
[04:29] <intelikey> irc = multiplayer echo ?
[04:29]  * genii settles in for The Editor Warz part n-1
[04:29] <intelikey> oloughlin75 be glad you weren't #debian when you said that....  :)
[04:29] <oloughlin75> KICK, right?
[04:29] <sjck> oloughlin75 warsow is in the repos?
[04:29] <intelikey> !info vim
[04:29] <sjck> :O
[04:29] <genii> oloughlin75: Well, redicule at the very least
[04:29] <oloughlin75> sjck: yes! :D
[04:29] <sjck> nice
[04:29] <genii> *ridicule
[04:30] <intelikey> where'd the bot go ???
[04:30] <oloughlin75> !info vim
[04:30] <sjck> I was betatester once :) which version are they now?
[04:30] <oloughlin75> .31
[04:30] <oloughlin75> last time i played was on windows on .20
[04:30] <oloughlin75> im on a laptop now though
[04:30] <oloughlin75> too hard to strafe and stuff on a touchpad
[04:30] <oloughlin75> those special jumps
[04:31] <sjck> hehe :)
[04:31] <oloughlin75> wooo
[04:31] <oloughlin75> they are on .41 now
[04:31] <oloughlin75> but repos are old
[04:32] <genii> intelikey: You're hiding the ubotu aren't you?
[04:32] <intelikey> oloughlin75 anyway vi > vim > vim-improved  is the linux "gold standard" of bare minimum text editor.   time was (until ubuntu)  every linux system had vi or some dirivative installed.
[04:32] <intelikey> genii no.
[04:32] <oloughlin75> almost like nano?
[04:32] <oloughlin75> ubots not even in the channel?
[04:32] <genii> Hmm
[04:32] <oloughlin75> ubuntu__:
[04:33] <intelikey> -:- SignOff ubotu: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)
[04:33] <genii> !ping
[04:33] <intelikey> it just pinged out.
[04:33] <genii> Weird
[04:34] <intelikey> oloughlin75 not as M$ edit like as nano  but in some ways very simular
[04:34] <oloughlin75> alright
[04:34] <ses59> I tried to load adobe reader on a 64 bit system not good.  Now if I open pdf it tells me acroread bad file.  How can I delete the acroread file?
[04:35] <intelikey> oloughlin75 its probably installed on your system.   but if not, it is in the repos.
[04:35] <ses59> ok
[04:35] <oloughlin75> intelikey: no saving? is an edit final?
[04:36] <ses59> do i look for a file named acroread and delete it?
[04:36] <intelikey> not sure i understand that ????
[04:36] <oloughlin75> intelikey: are there shotcuts?
[04:36] <genii> ses59: How did you install the reader?
[04:36] <ses59> it is on the menu when you tell the pdf to open with what file
[04:36] <intelikey> in vi to save you do  [esc]!w
[04:36] <ses59> make install I think
[04:37] <intelikey> oloughlin75 yes   it's a full grown text editor.  but very basic in it's look and feel.
[04:37] <SecretLine> can i make kicker (taskbar) hide in other desktop, like desktop 2, and show it in desktop 1 ?
[04:38] <genii> ses59: Go to the directory you wrote "make install" in, and do instead "make clean"
[04:38] <intelikey> SecretLine wasn't an option in 6.6   but that doesn't mean it can't be done.
[04:38] <ses59> i have both the rpm and gz on my computer not sure what I used to try to  install with
[04:38] <genii> ses59: That should clean it out. Try and install things from the package manager when possible.
[04:39] <genii> ses59: Ubuntu and Kubuntu do not use rpm
[04:39] <ses59> i will look for adobe file with make install
[04:39] <SecretLine> intelikey mmm but you know how ?
[04:39] <intelikey> no
[04:39] <ses59> i know but i put rpm manager on to install rpm packages bad choice i know now
[04:40] <SecretLine> intelikey thx anyway :)
[04:40] <intelikey> SecretLine you are probably using 7.10 which is a year and a half later than mine
[04:40] <genii> ses59: Try to install from Adept when possible.
[04:40] <SecretLine> intelikey im using hardy
[04:40] <intelikey> ok two years
[04:40] <oloughlin75> lol
[04:40] <intelikey> SecretLine and the channel for that is  #ubuntu+1
[04:41] <intelikey> :)
[04:41] <genii> ses59: I think the package name you are looking for is mozilla-acroread
[04:41] <arunkale> Can someone please help me? My web host offers SSH access. However, when I go to the area of the control panel where I create an SSH user, I have four options -- /bin/bash, /bin/sh, /bin/ksh, /bin/tcsh -- which one do i choose? what are the differences?
[04:41] <SecretLine> intelikey ok...
[04:41] <genii> arunkale: When in doubt choose /bin/bash
[04:41] <intelikey> bash arunkale
[04:42] <arunkale> thanks genii, intelikey :) what would the differences be, though?
[04:42] <intelikey> too numerous to list.
[04:43] <arunkale> ah
[04:43] <arunkale> bash should be ok though, right?
[04:43] <norv> arunkale: bash has tab completion. sh doesn't I don't think. big difference
[04:43] <intelikey> check the source code for bash and there is a text file that enumerates the major differances in bash/sh   but for the others there is even more
[04:43] <genii> arunkale: bash is the usual
[04:43] <arunkale> alright..
[04:44] <arunkale> my host also recommends using SFTP over FTP
[04:45] <intelikey> yes   but i reccomend ssh over *ftp
[04:47] <arunkale> you transfer files to your remote server over ssh itself?
[04:48] <biovore> I do
[04:48] <biovore> sftp anyway
[04:48] <biovore> can get a boost on some files if you turn on ssh compression :-)
[04:49] <norv> thought scp didn't require anything else but sftp did
[04:49] <ses59_> the file the acroread points to is not there usr/local/Adobe/a..t/&.0/bin/acroread but this director does exsit
[04:49] <norv> those elipses meant to be there and the and sign? and was there a / before it all?
[04:50] <ses59_> i have unhide checked but under usr/local no file with Adobe listed
[05:00] <arunkale> what is the terminal command to move one directory up
[05:00] <genii> cd ..
[05:00] <vanchuck> cd ../
[05:01] <genii> Don't forget the space between cd and the ..
[05:01] <genii> ubotu tell me about yourself
[05:01] <genii> heh he's back online
[05:02] <oloughlin75> !ubotu
[05:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:02] <Agent_bob> genii heh you know that some distros setup a default alias cd..='cd ..'  and alias ls..='ls ..'
[05:02] <genii> Agent_bob: Well, coming from DOS commandline it's a common error
[05:03] <Agent_bob> it was an alias there too   lol
[05:03] <genii> alias dir=`ls`     etc
[05:03] <Agent_bob> dir is a bash builtin
[05:03] <genii> Agent_bob: Hah. Never use it
[05:03] <Agent_bob> me either
[05:04] <genii> Although I tend to find myself bewilderd when ls fails on a DOS firmware disk for instance
[05:04] <Agent_bob> but i just compiled a fully posix and static bash   so i read lots of things about bash.
[05:04] <Agent_bob> genii lol   ten for
[05:05] <genii> Weird. The bot reappears and intelikey times out and misses it
[05:05] <AndreSTC> how do i check what version of kubuntu im running?
[05:05] <intelikey> no i didn't
[05:05] <genii> AndreSTC: Kbutton.rightclick..Panel menu..help...About KDE
[05:06] <intelikey> AndreSTC lsb-release -a
[05:06] <keto> hi
[05:06] <genii> intelikey: Weird then: [00:04:46] <-- intelikey has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
[05:06] <k4ever> hi all.  where can i find a debian package version of ffmpeg with amr support built in?   i'm using kubuntu 7.10 and i'm trying to convert videos to 3gp
[05:07] <intelikey> genii he may have wanted the kde version  but kubuntu version isn't shown in the about kde is it ?
[05:07] <genii> intelikey: Nice one Agent_bob LOL
[05:07] <AndreSTC> intelikey that command wasnt found
[05:07] <keto> hi every one
[05:07] <intelikey> glad you finally cought up.
[05:08] <AndreSTC> genii it dowsnt show kubuntu version, only kde's
[05:08] <genii> intelikey: Ah, true, it only shows the KDE version. the lsb_release -a of course will show the dist, etc
[05:08] <intelikey> AndreSTC sorry it's not dash it's underscore
[05:08] <intelikey> lsb_release -a
[05:08] <keto> there is people who help here_
[05:08] <genii> AndreSTC: Then you want the lsb_release -a
[05:08] <AndreSTC> oh thanks
[05:08] <intelikey> keto where ?
[05:08] <keto> (*(*
[05:09] <keto> im trying to instal kubuntu but i cant
[05:09] <intelikey> why not ?
[05:09] <keto> the machine run very slow
[05:10] <keto> ir get frezze on the first step
[05:10] <intelikey> point gun at machine, make run fast!
[05:10] <intelikey> freeze...  eeeuuww
[05:10] <keto> hehe
[05:10] <AndreSTC> is there any article on updating kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10?
[05:11] <intelikey> !upgrade | AndreSTC
[05:11] <ubotu> AndreSTC: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:11] <surgy> intelikey: once again you beat me to the punch :)
[05:11] <intelikey> surgy quick draw!
[05:12] <surgy> :)
[05:12] <intelikey> keto not fogetting you.   have you tried the alternate install cd/dvd ?
[05:12] <keto> there is a way to install without run de cd as live cd just install_
[05:12] <genii> keto: How fast is your computer and how much memory does it have?
[05:12] <intelikey> keto it provides the 'venella' text based installer.
[05:13] <keto> what is that_
[05:13] <surgy> keto: ever think of xubuntu?
[05:13] <keto> i dont understand
[05:13] <genii> keto: For slower computers with less than 256Mb RAM, xubuntu is better.
[05:14] <intelikey> surgy it sounds like he is trying to describe a problem with the live CD not with his computer.   i.e. installed it might not be a problem
[05:14] <genii> Hmm
[05:14] <surgy> intelikey: [23:09] <keto> the machine run very slow
[05:14] <intelikey> surgy yes.  and point gun at machine....    blah blah blah
[05:16] <intelikey> i do understand that ubuntu is becomming more bloated all the time  but 128m ram on a p1 will run kde just fine.
[05:16] <keto> i got 256 of ram is it not suficient?
[05:16] <intelikey> it just can't load all of the liveCD installer in 128m anymore.
[05:16] <ForgeAus> I wonder if fluxbuntu and/or ebuntu (or whatever the enlightenment edition) will become official Ubuntu distros (as in by the Ubuntu/kubntu/xubuntu/edubuntu people
[05:16] <intelikey> keto yes.
[05:17] <intelikey> keto but you still will probably have better luck installing with the alternate install cd/dvd
[05:17] <oloughlin75> fluxbuntu is a PITA to setup right
[05:17] <ForgeAus> I just noticed why is there an ubuntu based on GNUstep as a WM?
[05:17] <oloughlin75> heres a good vid though: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1802740
[05:18] <ForgeAus> grr scrap the why there
[05:18] <genii> keto: 256 should be OK for livecd. If you want a text-only cd to install from, as intelikey suggests get the alternate cd
[05:18] <keto> alternate install cd/dvd??
[05:18] <intelikey> yes
[05:18] <keto> what is that_?
[05:19] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.com  go see.
[05:19] <ForgeAus> ahh there is Nextbuntu!
[05:19] <genii> keto: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download  "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer." <-- CHECK OFF THIS BOX
[05:20] <keto> ok
[05:20] <keto> ok
[05:20] <keto> i think i got it
[05:20] <intelikey> tower of bable   sheesh.
[05:21]  * genii ponders all the *buntus
[05:21] <keto> it is like the windows cd? only for installation ok?\
[05:21] <genii> keto: You boot the cd like before but ho graphic install. Only text.
[05:21] <genii> ho->no
[05:23] <keto> but it is another cd ah? no thisone
[05:23] <Xbehave> is 2.5.0.4 the same core as the latest 3.* version ?
[05:23] <Xbehave> !azureus
[05:23] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:24] <surgy> !ktorrent
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <surgy> !ktorent
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <surgy> must be broken
[05:24] <oloughlin75> !ktorrent
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <genii> keto: Yes, it is another CD.
[05:26] <keto> alternate install cd/dvd thats tha name ah_?
[05:26] <Xbehave> surgy im aware of ktorrent but my ISP shapes trafic so i need to use something eqivelant to http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Avoid_traffic_shaping level5
[05:26] <genii> !info ktorrent
[05:26] <ubotu> ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[05:26] <keto> thanyouall so mucho
[05:26]  * genii sips his coffee
[05:28] <intelikey> keto si welcome.
[05:29] <intelikey> !es | keto
[05:29] <ubotu> keto: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:29] <keto> gracias
[05:31] <intelikey> you know. i can't read spanish for shucks.   but i can about half way make out what is being said in a conversation    "if they don't talk to fast for me."
[05:32] <oloughlin75> lol
[05:32] <oloughlin75> when do they ever talk slowly?
[05:32] <genii> Some form of english seems to be what the internet mainly runs on
[05:33] <Daisuke_Ido> sweet lord of all that is holy, it's me: http://xkcd.com/386/
[05:33] <eddy> hi people whit linux--- i have some problems here--- thw first is i need a uml disaigner  and download it
[05:33] <oloughlin75> lol Daisuke_Ido
[05:33]  * genii hands Daisuke_Ido a coffee
[05:33] <intelikey> genii well yeah, and internationalized north american english dialect of geek speek
[05:34] <eddy> someone know about it
[05:34] <genii> intelikey: Also most programming languages seem anglo-based
[05:34] <intelikey> genii indeed they are.
[05:35] <keto> ok i have another pc im in www.ubuntu.com_getubuntu_downlad
[05:35] <intelikey> down lad !
[05:35] <intelikey> sorry.
[05:35] <keto> ok
[05:35] <keto> okk
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> genii: even moo?
[05:35] <keto> u undrestandme ??
[05:36] <intelikey> eddy !i sorry.
[05:36] <intelikey> keto yes
[05:36] <eddy> why?
[05:36] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: Moo is pretty much international :) Like meow
[05:36] <intelikey> cause i dont'
[05:37] <keto> im sorry but i dont know where is te ling to download the image cd for alternate install cd_dvd
[05:37] <intelikey> eddy oh. eheh.    !i == not I
[05:37] <Daisuke_Ido> there's always brain****
[05:37] <eddy> i only need a uml
[05:37] <genii> eddy: Dia is good for UML
[05:37] <intelikey> !alternate
[05:37] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[05:37] <genii> !info dia
[05:37] <ubotu> dia (source: dia): Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.1-3 (gutsy), package size 187 kB, installed size 540 kB
[05:38] <oloughlin75> keto: http://tezcatl.fciencias.unam.mx/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/
[05:38] <oloughlin75> keto: the alternative cd
[05:39] <eddy> but it doesnt show the code when i make the diagrams, i need  the code
[05:39] <AndreSTC> how do i check my disk space?
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you want it to code it for you automatically?
[05:40] <genii> !info umbrello | eddy
[05:40] <ubotu> eddy: umbrello (source: kdesdk): UML modelling tool and code generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2083 kB, installed size 5648 kB
[05:40] <eddy> like "together" but to linux
[05:41] <unagi> how do you change what application opens a filetype
[05:41] <intelikey> keto sorry it took me long.    http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[05:41] <intelikey> so long
[05:41] <intelikey> long time
[05:41] <keto> ok
[05:42] <keto> i  can see the link now
[05:42] <AndreSTC> how do i check my disk space?
[05:42] <keto> tanks
[05:42] <eddy> A URL plz or i can install it whit at-get
[05:42] <intelikey> welcome
[05:42] <keto> Iwill try
[05:42] <keto> illbe back
[05:43] <intelikey> eddy if it says "In component ***"   that means you use the package manager
[05:43] <genii> eddy: sudo apt-get install umbrello
[05:43] <eddy> ooooohhhh
[05:43] <eddy> hehe
[05:43] <genii> Or just use Adept
[05:43] <intelikey> !info bash | exapmle
[05:43] <ubotu> exapmle: bash (source: bash): The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.2-0ubuntu11 (gutsy), package size 665 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[05:44] <ForgeAus> is ubuntu's bash really bash or dash? I'm confused
[05:46] <intelikey> bash is bash is bash
[05:46] <ForgeAus> lol
[05:46] <intelikey> sh can be any posix compliant shell
[05:46] <ForgeAus> give it a bash
[05:46] <intelikey> bash doesn't actualy qualify any more but is still used in many cases
[05:46] <ForgeAus> bash, dash, ksh, csh, tchs, pdksh, sash, rash, rcsh, etc, etc, etc...
[05:47] <zepeuga> hi! when running "Xephyr :1" i got the error "Extended Input Devices not yet supported. bla bla bla" whats the matter?
[05:47] <ForgeAus> I had real pains trying to get Xephyr working with Edgy a while ago
[05:47] <intelikey> prolly a wacom error
[05:47] <ForgeAus> Xnest was so simple in Zenwalk
[05:47] <ForgeAus> (but that was preconfigured already)
[05:48] <AndreSTC> is there a way to redestribute the space of the partitions?
[05:48] <ForgeAus> I found it handy to have as a root X-Server running alongside the user one
[05:48] <zepeuga> intelikey, how an i correct the wacom error ?
[05:48] <ForgeAus> Andre yes and no
[05:48] <intelikey> AndreSTC not safely
[05:49] <ForgeAus> the safest would be to back up your partitions and rebuild on an empty drive to the size you require
[05:49] <intelikey> zepeuga edit the xorg.conf file and remove the referances to them ?
[05:49] <ForgeAus> then restore the data back (as long as theres enough room for the restorations)
[05:50] <zepeuga> intelikey, ok thanks. Thats because i don't know what is a "wacom" ;)
[05:50] <ForgeAus> does norton ghost work with ext partitions?
[05:51] <ForgeAus> (as in e2fs or if you like ext2/3 to be more explicit)
[05:51] <intelikey> AndreSTC i concur with ForgeAus on that.   if possable copy your data some place and rebuild your disk then restore the data.   be advised that normal copy procedures do not preserve links and permissions tho.
[05:51] <intelikey> !wacom | zepeuga
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <zepeuga> i already know
[05:51] <zepeuga> googled ;)
[05:51] <intelikey> well they have removed the infonode
[05:51] <zepeuga> thx
[05:51] <ForgeAus> Intelikey I tend to suggest backing up rather than copying
[05:52] <intelikey> heh. but a backup is a copy  :)
[05:52] <zepeuga> brb gonna restart xorg
[05:52] <ForgeAus> intelikey depending on what program you use to back it up with it can be more :)
[05:53] <intelikey> ForgeAus yeah it can change perms and break links.   but we both understand all that already.
[05:53] <ForgeAus> (ie restoring from backup is preforable to copying for the exact reason you said about the deficiencies with copying and so on... )
[05:53] <intelikey> cp -a   :P
[05:54] <zepeuga> intelikey, wacom was not the problem. The whole error its: Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c
[05:54] <zepeuga> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[05:54] <intelikey> normal.
[05:54] <intelikey> ah kinput   ok
[05:55] <intelikey> helps when you see the whole message....    but now i dont have an answer.
[05:55] <intelikey> that would be a kde4 thang!
[05:55] <intelikey> !kde4
[05:55] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[05:55] <zepeuga> hmm ok thx
[05:55] <intelikey> try in there ^
[05:55] <zepeuga> ok
[05:57] <intelikey> that's long A sound    "thAng"
[06:01] <AndreSTC> intelikey when i access /media i can see one hd partition, but the strange thing is that things are not being installed on this one... It has 50GB and is not being used(its name is sda3). When i run df -h i see that i have one partition called sda1, that is almost full...Since i can see the sda3 on /media/, can i send the files from sda1 to sda3?
[06:03] <snarkster> !ndiswrapper
[06:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:03] <genii> AndreSTC: Since sda1 is normally the boot drive, sending the files from there to somewhere else is not a good idea.
[06:04] <intelikey> AndreSTC yeah you can do that.   now let me tell you some of the things to look out for   copying to a submounted file system you need to be carefull not to let it "recurse" into the other fs   and you have to preserve permissions and ownership    as well you want to preserce links.     with the copy command some of that is not easy to do.  with the tar command however...
[06:05] <genii> intelikey: Yer on yer own there then :)
[06:06] <intelikey> sudo tar --one-file-system -cf - "$1" | sudo tar -xf - -C "$2"
[06:06] <intelikey> genii ok?
[06:06] <intelikey> be sure to translate $1 and $2
[06:07] <genii> intelikey: I don't think he wants to back up sda1 there so much as mv them there ;)
[06:07] <Aloha> how do you change timestamp in konversation to 12 hour time?
[06:08] <intelikey> genii yes and you have to back things up there first if you plan on deleting them in /  because some things have to change.   i.e. boot loader and fstab
[06:09] <AndreSTC> intelikey isnt there a way to "fuse" sda1 with sda3 ? So i get only 1 partition with 55GB
[06:09] <intelikey> well you might be able to use gparted and delete the second and resize the fisrt  but i don't like the way things go if anything craps out on you.
[06:10] <intelikey> AndreSTC also you can use unionfs to intermingle the two fs's   i.e. mounting them both on the same mountpoint / and seeing all that is in both of them.
[06:11] <intelikey> that's convoluted as wine tho.
[06:12] <intelikey> there are probably other more desireable options.  i.e. mounting the second fs on /home ?
[06:13] <intelikey> in which case i sujest using cp -a /home/* /media//sda3    or what ever it was.
[06:13] <AndreSTC> intelikey what u think is the easiest way?
[06:13] <intelikey> the last mentioned
[06:13] <intelikey> and the safest
[06:14] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ yo
[06:14] <intelikey> you can do that in three steps.   copy the stuff form home to the mounted media fs   editing your fstable   deleting what's in /home and reboothing
[06:14] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> hey do you recall a way to update /etc/group without having to logout?
[06:15] <AndreSTC> intelikey so, after doing that, everything else i install will be on sda3?
[06:15] <intelikey> yes.  but i dont' recall what it was...
[06:15]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> can't put my finger on it
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> update-passwd was no joy
[06:17] <intelikey> AndreSTC no.  everything in your home will be on sda3 and what is installed (system wide) will be on sda1   but that will probably never reach 6g    how big is sda1 anyway ?
[06:17] <intelikey> AndreSTC can you do a df -h   and post the line with sda1 in it please
[06:17] <AndreSTC> [intelikey]: 5.1GB... it currentky has 3.7GB(im updating kubuntu, so it will probably get full)
[06:18] <intelikey> yeah you'll be hard ressed to ever fill that
[06:18] <intelikey> hard pressed
[06:18] <AndreSTC> internet_ system wide, u mean, upgrades etc?
[06:19] <AndreSTC> ops, intelikey thats for you
[06:19] <sub[t]rnl> pff, newgrp
[06:20] <sub[t]rnl> there it is
[06:21] <intelikey> AndreSTC yes.  now i have one other sujestion for you.  if you are a media tinkeror   you might want to split the big partition into three parts   one about 4g one about 3g and the other the rest of it.    then you can mount 3g on /var/cache/apt/archives   4g on /tmp  and the other on /home   that will expand the size of your system greatly and is a simple solution
[06:22] <genii> bbiab
[06:22] <intelikey> you just use gparted to setup the partitions and edit the fstab  copy your home to the new home and reboot
[06:23] <linux_user400354> how can i remove everything installed from the mediubuntu repository and undo all the changes it did? it also upgraded software and things do not work right. id really like to do more than take it out of my sources.list. i need to undo all the changes it did. could anyone please tell me how?
[06:24] <intelikey> that will give you 4g of temp space and a place to keep your package cache incase anything goes wrong you don't have to dl them again.  and your home has how ever much room is left.
[06:24] <AndreSTC> intelikey i get it... ill try it later, cause im downloading kubuntu update... i cant install gparted while doing that
[06:25] <intelikey> linux_user400354 apt-cache policy might tell you where things are from   idk.  i haven't messed much with medibuntu
[06:26] <AndreSTC> intelikey thanks for your help, i have to go down. ill try it at the morning
[06:27] <intelikey> linux_user400354 ok   for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-cache policy $Q | grep -q medibuntu && echo "$Q" ;done
[06:27] <intelikey> that should get you a list.
[06:28] <cwzegarra> Hi
[06:29] <cwzegarra> Somebody is listening?
[06:29] <cwzegarra> I want to make a question
[06:29] <intelikey> all it will do is list to stdout  so you'll have to plumb that into something else to be useful     | apt-get install --reinstall --force-downgrade   mabye linux_user400354
[06:29] <intelikey> you just did cwzegarra
 Somebody is listening? <<< albeit not gramaticly correct.  it's a question :)
[06:31] <cwzegarra> sorry, I'm not write english very well, I'm from Peru
[06:31] <intelikey> !es
[06:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:31] <cwzegarra> well thks anyway
[06:31] <intelikey> or is it !pt
[06:32] <intelikey> cwzegarra so ask your question.  and we'll do what we can with it.
[06:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody used the ubuntu customization kit?
[06:33] <intelikey> i didn't know there was one
[06:33] <cwzegarra> well. I try to upgrade Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10. But i get an error
[06:34] <intelikey> cwzegarra ok.  what error says ?
[06:34] <cwzegarra> the messege is the following: Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[06:34] <intelikey> !automatix
[06:34] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:34]  * jussi01 cries 
[06:35]  * sub[t]rnl comforts jussi01
[06:35] <intelikey> cwzegarra try apt-get remove automatix
[06:35] <jussi01> cwzegarra: remove the line in your sources list
[06:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh oh. are we crying again.  this sounds like an "oops" moment.
[06:36] <intelikey> cwzegarra yes it is in the sources     sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:37] <intelikey> put # in front of  line with 'automatix'
[06:38] <Aloha> does anyone know how to change timestamp to 12 hour in konversation?
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> ok gundam_rx78nt1, i know your wanting it..    everybody oops..
[06:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> :p
[06:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> lol
[06:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> !uck
[06:39] <ubotu> UCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[06:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, so it is true about the customization kit.
[06:40]  * genii sips his coffee
[06:40] <intelikey> genii give jussi01 some coffee he's being emo again.
[06:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> I wonder if I can make a network bootable image to use PXE boot on a "thin client".
[06:41] <genii> Interestingly, a TimestampFormat entry in ~.kde/share/config/konversationrc of h:m:s:z seems to give 1000th of a second for value z
[06:41]  * genii slides jussi01 a nice large coffee
[06:41] <jussi01> Aloha: its under settings, cant quite remember exactly where, but look through there and you will find it
[06:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> genii, don't forget the biscotti with that.
[06:42]  * jussi01 thanks genii and downs the coffee in one large gulp
[06:42] <Aloha> jussi01: i see it, but it doesn't like whatever value i put there. like right now its hh:mm but if i put ii:mm it just puts a literal "ii" in timestamp
[06:42] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: He/she will need to forage for their own grub :) I just make the coffee
[06:42] <jussi01> he :)
[06:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> mmm, grub... now I can go for that.
[06:43] <genii> Aloha: There is no 12 hour timestamp yet for konversation. I just spent the last few minutes looking into it
[06:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am pulling an alnighter here at work.
[06:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> sucks.
[06:43] <Aloha> genii: ok thanx. that would explain why it can't get it to work :)
[06:44] <genii> Aloha: Yup:)
[06:44] <intelikey> Aloha Hh:mm
[06:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> shouldn't that be part of the regional settings?
[06:44] <intelikey> nevermind wrong app
[06:45] <intelikey> but you can try  HH:mm
[06:45] <intelikey> might need /p  idk
[06:45] <genii> intelikey: uppercase or lowercase, one or two h or m or s makes no difference. I just went through all this empirically in the konversationrc file
[06:46] <genii> No letters are valid except h m s and z
[06:46] <intelikey> then it's poorly writen   ;/
[06:46] <genii> the clock syntax of pH:MM:SS AMPM doesn't work either
[06:46] <Aloha> hrmm
[06:46] <Aloha> just gives a literal HH
[06:47] <intelikey> ok i tried.
[06:47] <genii> On the bright side I get now 1000ths of a second timestamps :)
[06:47] <Aloha> hehe
[06:48] <karllenz> hi im new to kubuntu and linux i am curently installing it i have a visiontek x1550 video card is this gona be a big problem i could not find any info on it
[06:48] <karllenz> also on the install my network autoconfig failed
[06:49] <genii> karllenz: It's an ATI
[06:49] <karllenz> yea
[06:49] <karllenz> i know bad right
[06:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> aloha: did you try hh:mm:tt?
[06:49] <intelikey> !ati | karllenz
[06:49] <ubotu> karllenz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:49] <karllenz> ok kool
[06:49] <intelikey> !wifi | karllenz
[06:49] <intelikey> and the bot is down again.
[06:49] <ubotu> karllenz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> Aloha: check - http://books.google.com/books?id=MbHAnBh9AqQC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=irc+timestamp+display&source=web&ots=c5rKmZluJN&sig=z517LZ-zReSw3zcypdj0T2_JzDs
[06:49] <karllenz> what can i do about my network config failing
[06:50]  * intelikey kicks ubotu
[06:50] <Aloha> hrm
[06:50] <Aloha> just gives literal tt
[06:50] <genii> intelikey: I swear you answered the Q before it was asked
[06:50] <karllenz> i ust skipped the config for now
[06:51] <genii> Oh wait he asked under the line about his no-name ATI :)
[06:51] <jussi01> intelikey: dont!!
[06:51] <intelikey> oh sorry.  it's me thats' down.
[06:51]  * intelikey gets kicked by the bot.
[06:52] <intelikey> !botsnack
[06:52] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, almost got caught.
[06:53] <intelikey> jussi01 don't which ?   what ?
[06:54] <genii> Aloha: I put a:b:c:d:e:f:g:h:i:j:k:l:m:n:o:p:q:r:s:t:u:v:w:x:y:z for a timestamp and only the h m s and z gave anything besides literal
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> whoa, whats z?
[06:54] <jussi01> intelikey: you were kicking the bot.  ;)
[06:54] <genii> sub[t]rnl: 1/1000th of a second
[06:55] <sub[t]rnl> ew, nice find :>
[06:55] <genii> sub[t]rnl: I have it set that way now :)
[06:55] <sub[t]rnl> as do I my joe chugging amigo, as do i
[06:56] <genii> !helpersnack | intelikey
[06:56] <ubotu> intelikey: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:56] <genii> intelikey: See, you hit the bot and it still feeds you
[06:57] <Aloha> arsenic cookie
[06:57]  * genii ponders the co-dependent relationship
[06:57] <genii> Aloha: Hmmm, possibly :)
[06:57] <intelikey> yeah yeah.   !opsnack and all that raw :)
[06:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> exlax cookies
[06:58] <intelikey> arsenic is slow.  give me synanide!
[06:58] <Tm_T> kids
[06:58] <jussi01> Aloha: try: pH:MM:SS AMPM
[06:58] <genii> For the persisten swearers we should have something like: Wow! You swear so much, here's a bar of soap to eat!             or so
[06:59] <genii> jussi01: I alreay stated a while back that doesn't work
[06:59] <jussi01> genii: ahh, i missed that
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> cyanide, for that good ol' almond-flavored suicide
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> just like grandpa used to make...  once, anyway
[07:00] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: You must have watched "the little girl who lives down the lane" before :)
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ...no, i don't think i've seen that
[07:01] <jussi01> Ok, guys, please take the offtopic talk elsewhere
[07:01] <genii> Any pending tech support questions?
[07:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> any pointers on making a thin client boot Kubuntu via PXE boot?
[07:04] <ForgeAus> (maybe bootp) use tftp and um
[07:04] <ForgeAus> have a static IP
[07:05] <ForgeAus> (there is also a pxe linux kernel and a mini.iso of a linux base)
[07:05] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: You can use a variation of the netboot install method and just use some variation of the livecd image to run instead of an install image
[07:05] <ForgeAus> thats also possible :)
[07:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> mmm. this might just become my next weekends project.
[07:07] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: Some good reference I used for my own setup: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> my next big project will be linuxmce
[07:12] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2a574d39
[07:12] <intelikey> that's what i do if i get bored
[07:13] <intelikey> and jussi01 wont let me talk....  </pouts>
[07:16] <genii> Well, 2:14AM here so I'd better go grab some sleep. Work comes early. Laters all
[07:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> Daisuke: linuxmce?
[07:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> !linuxmce
[07:22] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[07:25] <intelikey> thought i'd give that uck a look.... but alas     uck depends on bash (>= 3); however:  Package bash is not installed.     along with lots of other such like things
[07:32] <intelikey> i go now
[07:32] <intelikey> shalom !
[07:45] <ecue> hey do any of you know how to install vmware
[07:45] <jussi01> !vmware
[07:45] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:46] <jussi01> ecue: see the instructions url there
[07:46] <jussi01> !virtualizers > ecue
[07:47] <jussi01> no probs ecue :)
[07:50] <ecue> hey jussi, sorry i'm a newbie
[07:50] <ecue> can you take a sec to walk me through?
[07:53] <jussi01> ecue: sory, not right atm, Im busy at work.
[07:53] <ecue> !virtualizers
[07:53] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[07:54] <default_op> Is PSOTFIX only a sendmail end?
[07:54] <default_op> POSTFIX
[07:54] <ecue> cool, sorry to bother
[07:55] <default_op> Is POSTFIX only a sendmail end?
[07:55] <jussi01> ecue: but irecoment to try virtual box
[07:55] <vanchuck> !usplash
[07:55] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:55] <ecue> thanks
[07:55] <jussi01> !virtualbox
[07:55] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[07:59] <Dezine> I install kubuntu, I have ubuntu, then I install kde4 but most of my programs are gray and the fonts seems a little blurry. Any reason for this?
[08:00] <Dezine> ah
[08:00] <Dezine> ok
[08:00] <default_op> Dezine: because htat's how KDE4 works.  It pushes old apps away sot hat you know the diff
[08:00] <Dezine> I figured out the window color issue
[08:01] <Dezine> ok
[08:01] <Dezine> Obsidian Coast looks good with the black menu bar
[08:01] <default_op> tou are supposed to get kde4 versions of software, but alot of stuff will still work
[08:01] <Dezine> ok
[08:01] <Dezine> Can I just remove all the old kde stuff or shouldn't I?
[08:02] <default_op> I was reading the kde4 dev stuff and they said that it was intended to grey out kde3 stuff
[08:02] <Dezine> yeah
[08:02] <Dezine> hm
[08:02] <Dezine> Is there an easy way to remove all kde3 stuff?
[08:03] <Dezine> Because it's a gray-Windows look and it's an eye sore.
[08:12] <arunkale_> what distinct advantages does sftp offer over ftp?
[08:13] <sub[t]rnl> arunkale_➜ someone won't be able to do a man in the middle attack and sniff packet data on the interface if your using sftp
[08:13] <vijay_> hi
[08:13] <arunkale_> ah alright
[08:14] <arunkale_> thanks sub[t]rnl
[08:14] <sub[t]rnl> anytime
[08:14] <arunkale_> my web host specifically recommends sftp over ftp, which is why i was wondering
[08:15] <sub[t]rnl> sftp is to ftp as ssh is to telnet.
[08:15] <jussi01> Hmmm, can someone help me connect to jabber through kopete? it hates me :(
[08:15] <sub[t]rnl> jussi01➜ never used jabber here. :/
[08:15] <vijay_> slow net speed: whenaver i install kubuntu net speed is fine but after 1-2 days speed becoms to slow..
[08:15] <vijay_> any help
[08:16] <sub[t]rnl> vijay_➜ thats an awful lot to chew.  There could be a whole slew of things going on with your network.
[08:16] <sub[t]rnl> hard telling
[08:16] <jussi01> !ipv6
[08:16] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:20] <arunkale_> isn't ipv6 supposed to be a good thing?
[08:21] <vijay_> whts for  ipv6?
[08:21] <jussi01> arunkale_: yeah, supposed to be. it can slow down the web with some routers though
[08:21] <arunkale_> jussi01: alright
[08:25] <arunkale_> any python programmers here
[08:25] <arunkale_> ?
[08:26] <arunkale_> sorry, that's off-topic
[08:27] <nirma> hi
[08:27] <arunkale_> hi nirma
[08:29] <neville> virtualbox^windowsxp on a seperate xserver -> ^____________^
[08:31] <arunkale_> where are you from, nirma?
[08:53] <shepp> G'day
[08:54] <jussi01> gday shepp
[08:54] <default_op> does disabling users totally stop the accoutn being used by the system or only hinders login use?
[08:54] <shepp> Can you tell me how to turn   echo on  during starting of kubuntu ??
[08:56] <jussi01> shepp: what do you mean?
[08:56] <shepp> i want to see what is being loaded  on boot up !!
[08:57] <llutz> shepp: boot with "nosplash" and remove "quiet" from grub-options
[08:57] <shepp> Thank you
[08:57] <sd32> !virtualbox
[08:57] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[09:04] <jussi01> Hi, Im getting: "There was a connection error: Operation is not supported" when attempting to connect to my google talk account through kopete. any ideas on how to fix?
[09:09] <jussi01> nm, I got it :)
[09:12] <Tinason> i am trying to install a plasmoid, but cmake bombs out since it cant find the file FindKDE4Internal.cmake
[09:13] <harmental> hi guys...
[09:13] <harmental> I know that on a regular keyboard, you use the number pad on the right side of the keyboard. Laptops don't have that. How can a person on a laptop type accents like: é ê è and others like so under kubuntu?
[09:16] <llutz> harmental: use kcharselect or switch keyboards-settings
[09:22] <Attila> hi all
[09:23] <AntiUSA> where is the wireless connections config utility in Kubuntu?
[09:24] <SlimeyPete> knetworkmanager is in the systray
[09:34] <AntiUSA> does kubuntu not have synamptic?
[09:34] <AntiUSA> synaptic*
[09:34] <llutz> AntiUSA: install it if you like/miss it
[09:34] <AntiUSA> well does KDE use something else?
[09:35] <llutz> adept
[09:35] <AntiUSA> ahhh
[09:36] <AntiUSA> any advantage/disadvantage?
[09:36] <Tm_T> AntiUSA: hmm, like to change your nick?
[09:36] <llutz> no idea, i don't like/use both of them (aptitude rulez :) )
[09:37] <AntiUSA> no, I wouldn't Tm_T
[09:37] <Tm_T> AntiUSA: interesting
[09:37] <AntiUSA> why?
[09:37] <Tm_T> someone might find it unfriendly I suppose
[09:38] <AntiUSA> I find what US imperialism does in the world to be unfriendly
[09:40] <Tm_T> AntiUSA: oh, but this is not place for politics, thank you
[09:41] <fignew> AntiUSA: you're from TEXAS!
[09:46] <AntiUSA> I am, haha
[09:46] <AntiUSA> that's true
[09:49] <ahmad> guys can you help me fix my wireless connection?
[09:50] <ahmad> my wifi cannot access any wireless network
[09:52] <TheGentleman> hello. I'm trying to install kubuntu Gutsy on an old laptop which has a totally empty (unformatted) hard disk.
[09:53] <TheGentleman> after having discovered which parameters to give at boot to let the graphics work I face a new problem:
[09:53] <ingo_> ahmad, what does "sudo ifconfig" tell you? is your card recognised?
[09:54] <TheGentleman> boot procedures hang up at a certain point showing (several times) the following message: "user not known to the underlying authentication module"
[09:55] <TheGentleman> what should i do?
[09:56] <ingo_> TheGentleman - no idea, had this problem once and I chucked the CD...
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> join #windows
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:57] <jeffy124> i'm looking for a graphical SSH/FTP tool so that i can update my site... what program should i use?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> !ftp
[09:57] <ingo_> konqueror
[09:57] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[09:57] <jeffy124> konqueror counts? ok weird. i'll check it out.
[09:58] <ingo_> jeffy - konqueror does ssh and ftp all in the comforts of its interface
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> !konqueror | jeffy124
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <ingo_> for ssh use the protocol fish
[09:58] <ingo_> fish://username@ip_address
[09:58] <jeffy124> found it! thanks all.
[09:59] <TheGentleman> ingo_ : I have seen your post on Ubuntu forums about the "user not known" isuue. You suggest it could be something bad on my CD?
[10:00] <ingo_> I haven't got a clue I'm afraid. It happened to me once and I was absolutely stumped, tried everything in my knowledge to make it work but couldn't...
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> TheGentleman, did you MD5 checkyour ISO before burning?
[10:02] <TheGentleman> ingo_ I have a Kubuntu alternate CD available too. You know if i can try use that disk instead? I only knew the use of "alternate" to upgrade from an older version
[10:03] <TheGentleman> ActionParsnip, that is something i do routinely for every burning. I also always set K3B to verify burnt CDs afterwards
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> TheGentleman, then it is very unlikely your cd is faulty
[10:04] <TheGentleman> may be a scratch on it....
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> give it a looksee :D
[10:05] <TheGentleman> what about using the "alternate" cd for installing?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> TheGentleman, should be fine
[10:06] <TheGentleman> well, going to give a try.... many thanks!
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> TheGentleman, you could always use VirtualBox
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> TheGentleman, to test :)
[10:17] <ingo_> TheGentleman - this was not a remastered Cd but an original download?
[10:17] <ingo_> oh, he's gone :)
[10:18] <ingo_> anybody using splashy here?
[10:22] <ingo_> ActionParsnip - whenever I try and install kubuntu on vbox I get a kernel panic - did it work for you?
[10:23] <ingo_> doesn't matter whether alternate or original CD
[10:23] <ingo_> any particular settings I ought to look out for?
[10:47] <boubbin> how to upgrade to the latest kde3 release ?
[10:59] <Divilinux> boubbin: just copy/past repository at kubuntu.org
[11:01] <peto> who can help with kubuntu please?
[11:01] <boubbin> Divilinux i always have to do this when im upgrading to the latest? there isnt any static repo that always has the newest version ?
[11:02] <ingo_> Divilinux - give us a try
[11:02] <ingo_> bollox, I meant peto...
[11:03] <peto> i tring to run a compiz
[11:03] <Divilinux> boubbin:  this is the last upgrade
[11:03] <peto> desktop is workig now, that i can see, but the cube still not...
[11:03] <Divilinux> but i think as soon as possible 3.5.9 will come with kubuntu repo's by default
[11:04] <boubbin> Divilinux yeah prolly last time then :P
[11:04] <Divilinux> so is no need to add right now..:)
[11:04] <boubbin> yeah
[11:04] <boubbin> well i kind of upgraded already
[11:04] <peto> when i run compiz there is only white screen... i can rotate this screen, but thats it
[11:04] <boubbin> changelog was not that big though..
[11:04] <Divilinux> i'm upgrading too..just 10 minutes
[11:04] <Divilinux> peto you probabily check your /usr/bin/compiz wrapper
[11:05] <praveenm> hi everybody, UUID=b221227a-404a-4d60-9aec-1f9598108c8b /media/sda5 ext3 defaults,user 0 0 using this my partition is readonly, how to make it RW?
[11:05] <Divilinux> check if your videocard is in withelist
[11:05] <peto> i am new in linux, can you help
[11:06] <Divilinux> just open "compiz" in /usr/bin..with a text editor
[11:06] <Divilinux> and check the line about videocard driver
[11:06] <Divilinux> just add yours
[11:06] <Divilinux> a try again...
[11:09] <peto> i dont know why, but there is no compiz file
[11:09] <Divilinux> don't you have a /usr/bin/compiz?..
[11:09] <peto> no...
[11:09] <Divilinux> so probabily you need compiz-kde package ti install
[11:09] <peto> ok
[11:10] <Divilinux> kubuntu comes without compiz by default..;)
[11:10] <gladier> hey guys - is there a multi-monitor setup utility for kubuntu?
[11:10] <apparle> hi
[11:11] <peto> there is compiz kde installed already
[11:11] <Divilinux> peto: then you should have a file called compiz located in /usr/bin
[11:11] <Divilinux> try with "sudo kate /usr/bin/compiz"
[11:12] <peto> im sure, nothing there
[11:13] <Divilinux> humm..your 3d acceleration is ok?
[11:13] <Divilinux> which card do you have?
[11:13] <peto> 8800 gts nvidia
[11:13] <Divilinux> nvidia-drivers should be fully supported by default
[11:14] <peto> i know
[11:14] <Divilinux> could you start compiz from konsole and put the output in a pastebin page?
[11:14] <peto> i dont know what to do
[11:14] <Divilinux> just launch "compiz"
[11:15] <peto> when i launch compiz screen gonna be white
[11:15] <peto> but thats not a cube
[11:15] <peto> just one side...
[11:15] <Divilinux> so try to paste the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[11:15] <peto> im not sure if you know what i mean
[11:15] <Divilinux> we take a look
[11:15] <Divilinux> i know..i know..:)
[11:15] <peto> can you tell me how please
[11:16] <peto> how can i send it to you
[11:16] <Divilinux> use pastebin.com
[11:17] <Divilinux> now i must go..but if u stay here for awhile..we meet later
[11:17] <peto> ok
[11:17] <peto> i will
[11:17] <peto> thank you for now
[11:18] <Divilinux> ;)..se ya later
[11:18] <Divilinux> but most people here can help u
[11:18] <peto> see you
[11:21] <marina> How can I install the latest version of Wine?
[11:21] <marina> the default one, 0.9.46 is not high enough for me
[11:22] <schiste> marina come to #kubuntu-fr :)
[11:26] <andy_> any one here know anything about ip2?
[11:31] <apparle> how to access the parallel port in a sh script
[11:32] <llutz> apparle: echo blafoo >/dev/lp0
[11:32] <apparle> llutz: and what will I get as the result
[11:33] <llutz> "nothing"
[11:33] <llutz> apparle: what do you want to do?
[11:35] <apparle> llutz: I want to check for a pulse at a bit of parallel port and want to send play/pause signal to kaffiene
[11:36] <llutz> apparle: i don't think that shell-scripts are a recommended way to do that. I guess you should use a "real" programming language
[11:38] <apparle> llutz: I am not good at any language. What if I read the port for a particular number and the execute the command dcop something
[11:38] <llutz> apparle: sorry, no idea
[11:39] <blekos> hello, will be KDE  3.5.x abandoed?
[11:40] <apparle> blekos: what do you mean by abondaned
[11:41] <blekos> will KDE 4.x completely replcafe teh KDE 3.5.x?
[11:41] <apparle> llutz: Isn't there a simple command to read what data is on the parallel port (0x378)
[11:41] <blekos> or it will be a parallel developmnet of both (hmm, tha t sound pointless... :D )
[11:42] <llutz> apparle: since there isn't just  " a 4 waiting at lp0 to be read", i doubt that it is that easy
[11:43] <apparle> llutz: can you suggest any function for c++ then
[11:44] <llutz> apparle: maybe try a look at lirc.org
[11:45] <apparle> llutz: that site is cool thanks
[11:46] <llutz> np, maybe you'll find some ideas
[11:47] <peto> who can help with kubuntu please???
[11:49] <apparle> peto: everyone is here either ro help or get help on kubuntu so ask the question right away
[11:50] <Sevenhill> hi there
[11:50] <peto> so... im tring to run compiz
[11:50] <Sevenhill> where is the kdm's session files in kubuntu hardy?
[11:50] <peto> but i am new with linux
[11:51] <peto> but... there is one side of cube working already...
[11:51] <KnYaz> hi all
[11:52] <KnYaz> please help me
[11:52] <KnYaz> root@KnYaz:/home/knyaz# apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:52] <KnYaz> Reading package lists... Done
[11:52] <peto> help with compiz----------------------------
[11:52] <KnYaz> Building dependency tree
[11:52] <KnYaz> Reading state information... Done
[11:52] <KnYaz> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[11:53] <KnYaz> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[11:53] <KnYaz> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[11:53] <KnYaz> or been moved out of Incoming.
[11:53] <KnYaz> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[11:53] <KnYaz> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[11:53] <KnYaz> that package should be filed.
[11:53] <KnYaz> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[11:53] <KnYaz> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:53] <KnYaz>   libxine1-ffmpeg: Depends: libxine1 (< 1.1.5) but 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:53] <KnYaz> E: Broken packages
[11:53] <KnYaz> why?
[11:53] <llutz> !pastebin < KnYaz
[11:53] <llutz> !pastebin | KnYaz
[11:53] <ubotu> KnYaz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <KnYaz> ok
[11:54] <KnYaz> sorry
[11:54] <peto> ------------ who can help with compiz ---------------
[11:54] <jussi01> peto: try #compiz-fusion
[11:56] <llutz> KnYaz: apt-cache policy libxine1-ffmpeg | grep Candidate
[11:56] <peto> thx
[11:57] <KnYaz> but it's big problem.. I want install libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:57] <KnYaz> (
[11:57] <KnYaz> ibxine1-ffmpeg: Depends: libxine1 (< 1.1.5) but 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 is to be installed         ------- why???
[11:57] <llutz> KnYaz: apt-cache policy libxine1-ffmpeg | grep Candidate
[11:58] <KnYaz> Candidate: 1.1.4-2ubuntu3
[11:58] <llutz> KnYaz: you're not on gutsy?
[11:59] <Xemanth> my touchpad has stopped working weirdly
[11:59] <Xemanth> i need to to press some keys and then touchpad works like a secon
[11:59] <KnYaz> where?
[11:59] <Xemanth> and then i need to push again qwerty keys and then touchpad works again second
[11:59] <apparle> stdin: are you there
[11:59] <Xemanth> my laptop's touchpad
[11:59] <llutz> KnYaz: lsb_release -a
[12:00] <stdin> he's on feisty from that package version
[12:00] <stdin> apparle: yes :)
[12:00] <KnYaz> No LSB modules are available.
[12:00] <KnYaz> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:00] <KnYaz> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[12:00] <KnYaz> Release:        7.10
[12:00] <KnYaz> Codename:       gutsy
[12:00] <llutz> KnYaz: check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:00] <Xemanth> im using gutsy
[12:00] <KnYaz> all comments )
[12:01] <llutz> KnYaz: it should be libxine1-ffmpeg-1.1.7-1ubuntu1  from universe-repo
[12:01] <apparle> stdin: I asked you for a command to change the server of apt lists. How do I do that?
[12:01] <llutz> KnYaz: paste your sources.list to pastebin plz
[12:01] <KnYaz> ok
[12:01] <KnYaz> sec plz
[12:02] <stdin> apparle: change the server in sources.list or from the downloaded lists in /var/lib/apt/lists/ ?
[12:04] <KnYaz> llutz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56733/
[12:04] <apparle> stdin: yes
[12:04] <llutz> KnYaz: you're using feisty-repos for gutsy, correct that
[12:04] <stdin> apparle: which?
[12:05] <KnYaz> llutz where?
[12:05] <llutz> KnYaz: lines 1-10
[12:05] <apparle> stdin: sorry  ;)
[12:05] <apparle> stdin: from the downloaded lists in /var/lib/apt/lists/ ?
[12:06] <KnYaz> llutz it's my mirror servers in my university
[12:06] <llutz> KnYaz: that aren't official repos i think. try to replace "feisty" with "gutsy" in lines 3-10.
[12:06] <KnYaz> llutz delete it?
[12:06] <KnYaz> ok
[12:06] <llutz> KnYaz: and comment-out line 1 (deb-cdrom)
[12:06] <KnYaz> ok
[12:07] <stdin> apparle: from what local to what?
[12:07] <llutz> KnYaz: after that "sudo apt-get update"
[12:07] <apparle> stdin: from gb. to in.
[12:07] <llutz> KnYaz:  "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg"
[12:08] <llutz> KnYaz: and plz stop working as root if you don't know what you're doing :)
[12:08] <stdin> apparle: ok, something like this should work, first do "sudo -i", then "cd /var/lib/apt/lists/; for file in *;do mv $file $(echo "$file"|sed 's/gb\./in./');done"
[12:08] <KnYaz> it's work! very senks!!!!
[12:08] <KnYaz> ok :)))
[12:08] <erik__> hey guys.. how do I remove the mouseover-info when I hover a task in the taskbar? KDE freezes ut for about 30 secs when I do that, and it's my only major problem with kde right now
[12:09] <apparle> $file $(echo "$file"|sed 's/gb\./in./')        this is the command right
[12:09] <apparle> ??
[12:10] <stdin> apparle: "mv $file $(echo "$file" | sed 's/gb\./in./')" yes
[12:10] <paule118> ßß????????
[12:10] <stdin> !de
[12:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:10] <apparle> stdin: I will give it a try
[12:10] <paule118> speek
[12:10] <paule118> specc
[12:11] <paule118> deutsch
[12:11] <stdin> paule118: /join #kubuntu-de
[12:11] <apparle> can anyone help with LIRC
[12:11] <paule118> kubu
[12:12] <paule118> sssssss
[12:12] <paule118> sssss
[12:12] <paule118> sssssss
[12:12] <paule118> s
[12:12] <Eirikeb> quick question: Got some problems with the install, found a solution that says I should irqpoll to the boot options. Okay, I press f6 to get acces to the boot options, they end with "quiet splash -- |". Where should I put irqpoll?
[12:13] <stdin> Eirikeb: after the "--" should be ok, it generally doesn't matter about the order you put options
[12:13] <Eirikeb> okay, was just thinking that the "--" was somekind of end argument equal to /> or something
[12:13] <apparle> llutz: LIRC has the function to send signals. I wanna receive them and control the media player like kaffiene
[12:14] <KnYaz> cool! all work :)) very thanks llutz !!! :)
[12:14] <Eirikeb> then I'll give the innstallation a new try, thx stdin = (
[12:14] <llutz> KnYaz: welcome
[12:14] <stdin> Eirikeb: I thought that too  when I saw it, but I recall putting options after it and it working
[12:14] <Eirikeb> @= )
[12:15] <llutz> apparle: lirc also recieves (if you have IR-receiver attached), it should do what you want. just read the docu
[12:16] <apparle> llutz: I there a channel for lirc where I can get more detailed help
[12:16] <stdin> try #lirc
[12:17] <llutz> he'll be lonesome there
[12:17] <philipp_> hi there, i've got some problems compiling a package
[12:17] <stdin> there's ##lirc too
[12:18] <stdin> philipp_: have you installed build-essential? (you need that to compile anything)
[12:18] <philipp_> i'll check...
[12:20] <Eirikeb> Somebody has some smart thing to say about partisions and stuff for a local server?
[12:20] <KnYaz> still a question
[12:21] <paule118> paule118
[12:21] <paule118> paule118
[12:21] <KnYaz> where to register proxy-server to connect in internet?
[12:21] <apparle> llutz: do you have any technical knowledge about electronics and microcontrollers
[12:21] <paule118> paule118paule118paule118
[12:22] <llutz> apparle: only some basics in electronics
[12:22] <KnYaz> when I write in Konqueror.. him add http:// (
[12:22] <llutz> apparle: and i know which the hot end of a soldering iron is :)
[12:23] <KnYaz> whY?
[12:23] <apparle> llutz: I know that each PC has a Infrared port. Can't we ust use it
[12:24] <stdin> KnYaz: because http:// is the protocol that websites use
[12:24] <llutz> apparle: afaik no, because PC-infrared is irda, which is not compatible with remotes. irda isjust for data-link between PCs/pda/...
[12:25] <KnYaz> stdin ok, but with http://proxy.server don't work
[12:25] <KnYaz> stdin when I delete http:// it's work but 2-5 sec.
[12:25] <KnYaz> and add http://
[12:25] <KnYaz> (
[12:26] <stdin> if you have a proxy you have to set that up in System Settings -> Network Settings -> Proxy
[12:26] <philipp_> seems as if it was the missing build-essential...thanks!
[12:26] <stdin> :)
[12:26] <KnYaz> stdin yes, I set.. but is also add "http://" :(( and don't work :(
[12:26] <apparle> llutz: http://usbirboy.sourceforge.net/ Can't we make this ckt to use 8051 family controller
[12:29] <jordinateur> Hi I would know if in Hardy Heron there's already compiz like madrake
[12:29] <jordinateur> mandrake
[12:30] <KnYaz> when i write to Manually specify the proxy settings: zzz.xxx.ccc.vvv 3128 and put apply he add http://zzz.xxx.ccc.vvv why??? ((((((((((
[12:30] <martina> ...
[12:31] <apparle> anyone who has time please read this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56735/ Nice
[12:32] <Eirikeb> I chuckled
[12:33] <DexterF> hi
[12:33] <apparle> Eirikeb: was that a reply to my post
[12:33] <Eirikeb> yes
[12:34] <DexterF> after updating grub on another distro grub now points to that distro's menu.lst. how do I make it point to kubuntus menu.lst again?
[12:34] <apparle> DexterF: Nice name
[12:34] <DexterF> yeah, I know :)
[12:36] <apparle> DexterF: Its your actual name or just a nick
[12:36] <DexterF> apparle: nick. why so interested?
[12:37] <stdin> !grub
[12:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:37] <stdin> DexterF: see the 1st link
[12:38] <apparle> DexterF: One of my favourite cartoons on Cartoon Network "Dexter's Laboratory" You just reminded me of it
[12:38] <DexterF> apparle: actually my nick refers to Dexter Filmore - google :)
[12:39] <karllenz> hey how come when i boot kubuntu it goes in to a comand line??
[12:39] <DexterF> stdin: ok, good to knwo, but I can perfectly boot kubuntu, thought there's something easier. I tied update-grub that actually butchers my menu.lst since it won't leave my wiondows, slackware or debian intact
[12:40] <DexterF> karllenz: broken X?
[12:40] <karllenz> mabye idk
[12:40] <karllenz> not to good with linux yet
[12:40] <karllenz> i think its my ati card thats gving me this problem
[12:40] <karllenz> how can i fix this
[12:40] <stdin> DexterF: put those definitions before "### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST" or after "## ## End Default Options ##"
[12:40] <karllenz> visiontek x1550 is the card
[12:40] <llutz> apparle: i'm using a serial-port-receiver with this interface http://www.lirc.org/receivers.html
[12:41] <DexterF> karllenz: installed fglrx/catalyst?
[12:41] <karllenz> this is a fresh install
[12:41] <karllenz> 1st time booting
[12:41] <stdin> * after "### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST"
[12:41] <karllenz> my screen says
[12:41] <karllenz> starting up.....
[12:41] <ZeuGiRDoR> hello, I need a fast image viewer for KDE. What app should I use?
[12:41] <DexterF> karllenz: I think, the entire x1000 series is only supported via vesa or atis closed src driver fglrx. guess you need to install that.
[12:42] <karllenz> loading please wait....
[12:42] <Lynoure> ZeuGiRDoR: fast in what way? Fast to load, fast to show slideshows, something else?
[12:42] <DexterF> ZeuGiRDoR: i'd go with GThumb, tho its gtk, but runs in kde, too. if it has to be kde, maybe.. gwenview?
[12:42] <karllenz> kinit:no resume image, doing normal boot
[12:42] <ZeuGiRDoR> fast to load
[12:42] <stdin> !paste | karllenz, use pastebin to post it
[12:42] <ubotu> karllenz, use pastebin to post it: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:42] <DexterF> stdin: do kubuntu's grub parses those lines?
[12:43] <Xemanth> ZeuGiRDoR: gwenview
[12:44] <ZeuGiRDoR> Ok, I'll try Gwenview because I prefer a QT app. Thanks
[12:44] <stdin> DexterF: the bit between those lines will be auto-generated by update-grub, it won't touch things before or after it. I have my other distros static definitions after the "### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST" line
[12:45] <DexterF> stdin: ok, thanks
[12:45] <DexterF> about time grub2 goes stable... config chaining...
[12:48] <karllenz> ok
[12:48] <karllenz> i put it into the paste bin
[12:49] <apparle> llutz: Can I send private msg
[12:49] <llutz> apparle: feel free
[12:52] <amundsen> hi
[12:52] <Eirikeb> no wai!
[12:52] <Eirikeb> same old error message : (
[12:52] <karllenz> has anyoone been able to look at this paste bin thing yet idk really what that is?
[12:52] <amundsen> does anybody know which is going to be the kde version in the next kubutu release ?
[12:52] <amundsen> 3.5.9 or 4.0 ?
[12:53] <AndreSTC> i just upgraded kubuntu to 7.10(from 7.04)... the load screen appears...but then, noting.... the screen is black
[12:53] <Dr_willis> I belive 4 will be optional.
[12:54] <eunice> portuguese...
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> !portuguese
[12:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[12:54] <MrJigsaw> Hello.. When i shutdown my PC using kubuntu, i get 'Will now halt...' and it stays there until i manually shuts it off... Anyway to fix this ?
[13:01] <apparle> I play a game counter strike. I runs very slowly. Can I give it more memory space
[13:01] <jussi01> where in xorg do the modelines go?
[13:05] <archeens> Earn money online ( New Site ) - http://www.latvianmoney.com/?r=578
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[13:05] <poison> wtf
[13:05] <karllenz> i installed my nvidia card so now i have both cards in my pc and my monitor plugged into my nvidia card and magically ubuntu seems t load
[13:05] <karllenz> off the live cd
[13:06] <poison> maybe some acpi bug
[13:08] <karllenz> is there a way for my to get my ati cards tv out to work in ubuntu
[13:08] <karllenz> while using the nvidia card
[13:08] <apparle> help me to run a game more smoothly
[13:13] <david_J> Anyone know of any good websites on building a computer?  I've been thinking about it for the first time.  I know what I want to do, but have no idea of what parts to buy...
[13:13] <david_J> Or point me to a irc channel?
[13:15] <david_J> I want it to be a firewall/port forwarding/share a lot of crap lan....
[13:16] <david_J> I want it to be cheap as possible yet fast...  I'll install kubuntu on it of course....
[13:23] <prince_jammys> heh, ive been meaning to make a website about that for a long time
[13:23] <ciaaa> ciaaa
[13:34] <Alexx> hello.  i have two questions. today i installed kde4-core and i like kde4 very much. i want to download kubuntu 8.04 and i have 2 questions: 1. does kde4 comes with 8.04 and 2. when 8.04 fully comes out (not alpha, not beta...) will i have an upgrade option or i will have to download 8.04 again?
[13:36] <Alexx> anyone?
[13:37] <david_J> Alexx: I donno
[13:37] <david_J> never played with 4
[13:38] <SlimeyPete> Alexx: you can upgrade from alpha/beta to full release very easily
[13:39] <SlimeyPete> Alexx: it's just a case of telling Adept to install updates
[13:39] <Alexx> SlimeyPete: i though so. Tnx
[13:40] <ridnowan> any one know how to install gnome on kubuntu from ubunu's shiped cd
[13:45] <ridnowan> any know install gnome from ubuntu cd. plz help me
[13:48] <jpatrick> ridnowan: not possible due to cd filesystem
[14:00] <dhq> can someone hellp me with the bootsplash patch for the kernel
[14:00] <warrend> hello
[14:00] <warrend> is it normal that gdebi-kde isn't able to install deb packages?
[14:01] <warrend> it is a bit annoying
[14:01] <prince_jammys> dhq: what's going on? no splash on startup?
[14:02] <slow-motion> hi
[14:06] <AndreSTC> is there a way to access the console before kubuntu loads?
[14:08] <peto> how can i run icq in kubuntu?
[14:08] <peto> thx
[14:08] <llutz> use Kopete or gaim/pidgin
[14:09] <peto> when i was launching kopete before i was able to chose... but now its not working
[14:09] <peto> there was jabber, icq atc for chose...
[14:09] <peto> but i dont know how to get it back
[14:11] <dhq> prince_jammys: well i and using bootsplash in kernel mode
[14:12] <llutz> peto: use kopetes configure-menu, accounts - add
[14:16] <AndreSTC> is there a way to access the console before kubuntu loads?
[14:16] <Xemanth> i would like to see X server loading earlier than now
[14:16] <Xemanth> its almost last
[14:22] <AndreSTC> I just upgraded kubuntu(7.04->7.10). But now, after the loading screen, there is just a black screen. Its not showing the login screen, what can i do?
[14:44] <DeadJones> i got issues
[14:44] <DeadJones> /etc/init.d/rc: 2: /etc/rcS.d/S85urandom: Permission denied
[14:44] <DeadJones> /etc/init.d/rc: 2: usplash_write: Permission denied
[14:44] <DeadJones> /etc/init.d/rc: 2: sh: Permissoin denied
[14:44] <DeadJones> init: Unable to execute "/bin'sh" for rc-default: Permission denied
[14:44] <DeadJones> init: rc-default main process (3858) terminated with status 255
[14:44] <DeadJones> on boot, after the spash/status bar
[14:44] <DeadJones> using kubuntu 710
[14:44] <DeadJones> ive replace the fstab a dozen times now, different commands to do the same thing, but in the end nothing has worked
[14:45] <DeadJones> any worthwhile suggestions?  reinstalling is not an option
[14:47] <ingo_> DeadJones - do a cd /etc/rc2.d    and check permissions in there
[14:49] <AndreSTC> I just upgraded kubuntu(7.04->7.10). But now, after the loading screen, there is just a black screen. Its not showing the login screen... Any ideas on how to solve that?
[14:50] <ingo_> AndreSTC - edit the kernel line of your /boot/grub/menu.lst and get rid of the word "splash"
[14:50] <ingo_> you should now see what is happening during boot
[14:50] <DeadJones> ingo: for every check i have to boot from livecd
[14:51] <AndreSTC> [ingo_]: how can i edit that? i dont know how to access the text mode
[14:51] <DeadJones> i have no cli prompt since i got this error
[14:52] <ingo_> DeadJones - well, I'd boot into knoppix, change to the rc2.d directory and check all the permissions there, pain the royal behind it may be... - but that is where I would start
[14:52] <DeadJones> so it takes a while for every check
[14:52] <ingo_> one boot and you can check the entire directory
[14:52] <DeadJones> true
[14:52] <ingo_> AndreSTC - google grub - it has a powerful cli
[14:52] <ingo_> command line
[14:52] <DeadJones> been trying to find a log of errors but seems i didnt have logging enabled and cant change that until i get a good boot again
[14:53] <llutz> as it's only links in /etc/rc2.d they all are 777 root:root
[14:53] <ingo_> cheers
[14:53] <ingo_> :)
[14:53] <DeadJones> would it be an issue if they're all 777 root:root as i dont boot into root?
[14:53] <ingo_> follow those links then?
[14:54] <llutz> they all point to /etc/init.d (SysVinit)
[14:54] <DeadJones> k
[14:55] <DeadJones> thank god for the livecd. i'd be crippled and screwed 2x without it
[14:55] <DeadJones> gotta restart this xchat to get the colors working
[14:56] <ingo_> llutz - so what do you reckon his prob is? seems odd that runlevel 2 is "off"
[14:56] <llutz> DeadJones: you talked about fstab, what did you change there?
[14:59] <AndreSTC> [ingo_]: ok, im on the command line.
[14:59] <ingo_> select your kernel and press "c"
[15:00] <ingo_> now you see the full kernel line - delete the word splash, press enter and boot
[15:00] <ingo_> and see what happens
[15:00] <AndreSTC> ingo_ i supose its the newest version?
[15:00] <ingo_> likely
[15:01] <Vadi> What is the command to switch to kde's window manager? "kwin --replace" ?
[15:01] <ingo_> AndreSTC - any changes are not permanent but only for this time round
[15:01] <ingo_> i.e. you cannot break anything :)
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  :-)
[15:03] <DeadJones> ok, ls -l shows all files in /etc/rc2.d with lrwxrwxrwx 1 root
[15:03] <AndreSTC> ingo_ i dont get what you mean by deleting the word splash, sorry im slow =p
[15:03] <DeadJones> and all files in /etc/init.d are  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root
[15:04] <DeadJones> errr, and all files in /etc/init.d are  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
[15:04] <ingo_> DeadJones - llutz wanted to know something...
[15:05] <llutz> DeadJones: you talked about fstab, what did you change there?
[15:05] <ingo_> AndreSTC - if there is no "splash" then get rid of "Quiet" and boot
[15:05] <DeadJones> used livecd to copy over default fstab from /etc/fstab to the /dev/sda1 partition
[15:06] <DeadJones> i figured fstab was screwed again
[15:06] <DeadJones> when playing with partitions i had the misfortune of accidently trying to disable /
[15:06] <llutz> DeadJones: *g
[15:07] <sebastian^> moin zusammen
[15:07] <jpatrick> sebastian^: hallo
[15:08] <DeadJones> thats when everything went to hell, btw.  and since ive replaced fstab with orig from livecd a number of times now, even doing sudo su - and then copying it over (as to avoid permissions error) it still wont boot
[15:08] <DeadJones> i used to just say to hell with it and just reinstall. dont want to ever have to do that again.  so i'll find a solution eventually .. i hope :p
[15:08] <BluesKaj> DeadJones, on the live cd you can re-edit and make /  active afaik .
[15:09] <AndreSTC> [ingo_]: i got it, i just dont get how im a suposed to delete it
[15:09] <blizzzek> bye
[15:10] <DeadJones> heh, havent tried doing that.  i set the sda1 to / and sda3 to /home
[15:11] <DeadJones> sda2 has 1.0Kb size.  dunno wth thats all about.  the others, sda5 and 6 are swap
[15:11] <DeadJones> wish me luck
[15:11] <DeadJones> if this works i'll be your sugar daddy for porn access :p
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hmm, having / and / home on diff partitions is supposed to be so great , dunno why , it never worked out right for me , but then maybe i screwed up the OS upgrade the last time i tried
[15:12] <DeadJones> i had it all on one partition once but never got it to install that way again
[15:12] <DeadJones> was on mandriva too.  go figure.  as screwy as that distro is, something worked right
[15:13] <llutz> BluesKaj: it's just easier to reinstall/upgrade with seperate /home, as you just don't need to configure all your apps again etc.pp
[15:13] <DeadJones> newp. same crap errors
[15:13] <DeadJones> llutz: i can reinstall just the / ?
[15:14] <llutz> DeadJones: sure just reinstall and mount your old /home after that. just make sure the /home-partition will _not_ be touched (not formatted)
[15:14] <BluesKaj> llutz, yes i understand the reasons , it just didn't work out ...my /home partition became very slow and clunky si i just did a clean install.
[15:15] <BluesKaj> the apps would take forever to launch etc
[15:15] <DeadJones> i cant afford a clean install.  too much stuff on /home is irreplaceable. plus i have one of a kind custom scripts running
[15:16] <llutz> DeadJones: you should think about a good backup-strategy too :)
[15:16] <DeadJones> after this i plan to. perhaps some kind of ghosting
[15:16] <llutz> images are not good backups, to much crap, hard to restore single files etc.
[15:19] <DeadJones> perhaps i can condense the /home partition and burn it to a couple dvr's
[15:19] <DeadJones> err, dvdr's
[15:20] <DeadJones> then script a backup system to copy new stuff over every few days somewhere
[15:21] <llutz> use something like rsnapshot
[15:21] <DeadJones> heh, i actually put that on for that intent but forgot about it
[15:21] <jhutchins_lt> DeadJones: Pardon, but there doesn't seem to be a systematic approach to what you're doing.  You're just randomly trying stuff.
[15:22] <DeadJones> when something breaks you try everything till it works again
[15:22] <jhutchins_lt> DeadJones: Not a good strategy.
[15:22] <DeadJones> well the one thing you didnt try could have fixed it
[15:22] <DeadJones> doesnt make it more broken
[15:22] <jhutchins_lt> DeadJones: For instance, the fstab from the live CD was a bad idea, that uses a completely different filestructure.
[15:23] <jhutchins_lt> DeadJones: What does it do when you try to boot it now?
[15:23] <DeadJones> i would agree on that but ive seen it mentioned more than a few times in the forums
[15:23] <DeadJones> gives errors
[15:23] <DeadJones> sec
[15:23] <DeadJones> /etc/init.d/rc: 2: /etc/rcS.d/S85urandom: Permission denied
[15:23] <DeadJones> /etc/init.d/rc: 2: usplash_write: Permission denied
[15:23] <DeadJones> /etc/init.d/rc: 2: sh: Permissoin denied
[15:23] <DeadJones> init: Unable to execute "/bin'sh" for rc-default: Permission denied
[15:23] <DeadJones> init: rc-default main process (3858) terminated with status 255
[15:23] <jpatrick> !paste | DeadJones
[15:24] <ubotu> DeadJones: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:24] <DeadJones> thats from screen that i would see.  if there's more to it i couldnt find it logged anywhere
[15:24] <jhutchins_lt> so permissions problems, particularly with sh.
[15:25] <DeadJones> yes, would seem so
[15:26] <DeadJones> looking to see if i can reinstall just the /
[15:26] <jhutchins_lt> Could somebody with a funcitonal kubuntu system paste the fstab line for their root partition?
[15:26] <jhutchins_lt> DeadJones: Yes, if /home is a seperate partition, you can.  I would format the rest.
[15:27] <jhutchins_lt> I would, in fact, delete the two swap partitions and create a single one instead.
[15:27] <Lynoure> jhutchins_lt: sure...  though I'm not sure what use it will be to you... "UUID=f431e05c-2650-4281-a865-f4807057af01 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[15:27] <setuid_w00t> Is it possible to launch applications so that they appear on a specific virtual desktop using the AutoStart mechanism?
[15:30] <DeadJones> im at the prep disk space part of the installer.  chose 'manual.'  can choose partitions in /sda to format.  ive chosen to format /dev/sda1 ext3  /       and /dev/sda5 and 6 as swap
[15:32] <DeadJones> trying to wipe out sda6 and add space to sda5
[15:34] <Daisuke_Ido> you want to get rid of your swap space?
[15:34] <DeadJones> have 2 swap partitions. making 1
[15:34] <AndreSTC> igno i managed to do it now... but things pass to fast, i cant read... but i saw one Fail at the end
[15:36] <Daisuke_Ido> it would help if i read, wouldn't it?
[15:36] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[15:37] <DeadJones> hope this dont screw up.  set / for format/install.  if i lose /home im screwed and out of a job :p
[15:43] <DeadJones> what ya think of rsync?
[15:46] <juaristi> eooo
[15:48] <Lynoure> DeadJones: for what use? rsync is nice, in general, for backups I'll rather use something using it, like dirvish
[15:50] <DeadJones> thanks, dirvish is a good starting point.  other than using livecd and doing a copy of /home partition to an external hdd, i dont have much history with doing real backups
[15:51] <DeadJones> i have plenty of external usb hdd's tho, so can start doing something regularly for now on
[15:51] <jpatrick> "UBUNTU DEVELOPER WEEK Session starting in #ubuntu-classroom in 10 minutes"
[15:52] <DeadJones> ok, new install on /.  hope this boots
[15:54] <DeadJones> looking good so far.  doing forced check on sda3.  also its 2 6 22 14, minor downgrade from 16 but if it works it works
[15:58] <DeadJones> would it be more advisable in the future to use sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/<drive> /media/<name>        than to use the system settings / drives       ?
[15:58] <MichaelR> How do I determine which version of kubuntu is installed on a system?
[15:58] <pag> MichaelR, ' lsb_release -a '
[15:59] <DeadJones> michaelr:  or help:/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/index.html
[15:59] <MichaelR> Thank you
[15:59] <MichaelR> Why no /etc/kubuntu-version or tht like?
[15:59] <prince_jammys> or help->about kde in any kde app
[15:59] <fabi> hi @ all
[15:59] <fabi> jemand deutsch ?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !de
[15:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:00] <DeadJones> woooooooohoooooooooooo!  success
[16:00] <MichaelR> DeadJones:  Arrrgh, that's the Konqueror default start up page.   I've been Mac'd
[16:01] <DeadJones> mac'd ?
[16:01] <DeadJones> it shows your version
[16:01] <blizzzek> hi
[16:02] <DeadJones> ohno
[16:02] <DeadJones> my home isnt my /home
[16:02] <DeadJones> ahh, its in /home/home
[16:02] <DeadJones> odd
[16:02] <DeadJones> how do i move /home/home/dead to /home/dead ?
[16:02] <jhutchins_lt> DeadJones: Where did you set it to mount?
[16:02] <DeadJones> partition 3 is set to /home
[16:03] <DeadJones> 3 Partition 137.1 Gb   /home   ext3  /dev/sda3
[16:04] <DeadJones> what'd i do wrong?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> hmm, sounds familiar
[16:07] <DeadJones> doing a sudo cp -r /home/home/dead /home/dead1
[16:07] <DeadJones> can just login as dead1 if that works
[16:07] <jhutchins_lt> Best to do this on a non-live system, boot from the live CD.
[16:08] <jhutchins_lt> mount the partition, and move dead from /mnt/home/dead to /mnt/dead
[16:08] <DeadJones> edit the fstab you mean?
[16:10] <DeadJones> in cat /etc/fstab it shows as /home not /home/home or /mnt/home
[16:11] <DeadJones> i see .. can do rm -r /home/dead and then cp /home/home/dead /home/dead
[16:11] <DeadJones> from livecd
[16:13] <flipstar> is anyone here using the real time kernel ?
[16:14] <AndreSTC> how can i boot kubuntu in recovery mode?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> AndreSTC, it should be in grub menu
[16:15] <AndreSTC> [BluesKaj]: ok
[16:15] <AndreSTC> lemme check
[16:16] <AndreSTC> BluesKaj recovery mode?
[16:16] <AndreSTC> ops, found it
[16:17] <BluesKaj> AndreSTC, yeah, second in the menu.lst but check your boot grub menu as well
[16:18] <AndreSTC> [BluesKaj]: i found it, thanks
[16:24] <hagabaka> is it a known problem that adept fails to upgrade a package if the upgrade script asks you whether to overwrite configuration file?
[16:30] <jhutchins_lt> hagabaka: Not really.
[16:30] <hagabaka> seems to be a known problem, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/158043
[16:34] <AndreSTC> I upgraded to version 7.10 and now my wireless internet isnt working anymore, any ideas?
[16:35] <warrend> does flashplugin works again with kde 2.5.9????
[16:44] <mali> hi guys I am having troouble with my webcam seems like zc0301 is the probem when I stopped that everything is fine but how am I going to remove that
[16:45] <warrend> is it a module?
[16:45] <mali> I think so it is listed under lsmod
[16:45] <warrend> you could edit /etc/modules.conf
[16:45] <warrend> or in /etc/rc.local
[16:46] <warrend> you can simple put your command in /etc/rc.local
[16:46] <mali> well actually when I type lsmod it is listed on the right of v4l2_common along with videodev
[16:47] <warrend> ok
[16:47] <warrend> is it a shipped kernel module?
[16:47] <mali> there is nothing in rc.local just `exit 0`
[16:48] <warrend> yeah
[16:48] <warrend> put it :)
[16:49] <mali> I don`t understand how am I going to put in there. I am pretty new to linux :)
[16:49] <warrend> do you know how to remove the module?
[16:50] <warrend> i thought you removed a module, sorry
[16:50] <mali> and when I type locate zc0301. I see it is in the linux headers and lib/modues
[16:51] <mali> I  think it`s shipped  with kernel
[16:52] <warrend> type this:
[16:52] <warrend> dmesg
[16:52] <warrend> and paste the last 3 lines
[16:52] <warrend> or simple open the log viewer :)
[16:52] <mali> [ 8985.968000] usbcore: registered new interface driver zc0301
[16:52] <mali> [ 9012.860000] usbcore: deregistering interface driver zc0301
[16:52] <mali> [ 9222.996000] /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-2.6.22/debian/build/build-generic/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: VIDIOCMCAPTURE: invalid format (7)
[16:52] <warrend> ok
[16:53] <Neumaennl> hi, I just installed kubuntu on my external USB HDD - it even said that GRUB was installed successfully, all the necessary files are in /boot/grub too but my PC doesn't boot from the USB drive :/
[16:53] <warrend> you didn't compile gspca yourself?
[16:53] <mali> no I didn`t I tried but couldn`t
[16:53] <AndreSTC> any help on configuring wireless on 7.10?
[16:53] <warrend> hm
[16:53] <warrend> you could recompile gspca
[16:54] <bomber> Neumaennl,  have you checked your bios to make sure its looking to boot the usb before hdd
[16:54] <mali> do you think I can find an how to for that
[16:54] <Neumaennl> I tried sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk --no-floppy /dev/sdc but it is saying /dev/sdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[16:54] <Neumaennl> bomber: yeah, I did check
[16:54]  * warrend reboots
[16:55] <Neumaennl> I also checked with fdisk that the correct partition is made bootable
[16:57] <Neumaennl> AndreSTC: wireless Lan worked out of the box for me with the live dvd of kubuntu 7.10
[16:59] <coreymon77> ooh!
[16:59] <coreymon77> wifi problems
[16:59] <coreymon77> yay
[16:59] <coreymon77> whose got the issue
[16:59] <[Weez]> anyone know why i would get Exiting: FatalError'>: Invalid remote call: /home/weez/ when trying to get hellanzb working?
[16:59] <Neumaennl> bomber: any other ideas on what I could try to get my pc to boot kubuntu from the usb drive?
[17:00] <bomber> hmm not particularly
[17:00] <Neumaennl> coreymon77: AndreSTC is the guy with the wlan problems
[17:00] <coreymon77> okay
[17:01] <Neumaennl> bomber: have you ever got kubuntu to run from a usb drive?
[17:01] <bomber> i would try to remove the hd boot altogether in the bios so it only looks to the usb
[17:01] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: what seems to be the problem
[17:01] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 hi, i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and my wireless stoped working
[17:01] <bomber> i havent done that
[17:01] <bomber> have you tried different ports
[17:01] <coreymon77> !doesntwork | AndreSTC
[17:01] <ubotu> AndreSTC: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[17:01] <bomber> sometimes it makes  a difference
[17:02] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: aka, details
[17:02] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: what do you mean by stopped working
[17:03] <Neumaennl> bomber: I haven't tried other ports yet but I can access the drive on this port without problems and I always have it on this port so it always has the same drive letter in windows
[17:03] <Neumaennl> I'll try different ports...
[17:03] <Neumaennl> see ya
[17:03] <Neumaennl> wish me luck ;)
[17:03] <bomber> good luck
[17:03] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: can you be more specific? is your card no longer detected? did it stop connecting? is it connecting to the network but no internet?
[17:03] <Neumaennl> :D
[17:03] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 i could detect the wireless but couldnt connect
[17:04] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: what card do you have
[17:04] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 then i tried configuring on the knetworkmanager but i think i messed up. lol
[17:04] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: dont worry, knetworkmanager is awful anyways
[17:04] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: so, whats the card?
[17:05] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 no idea, its my friends notebook
[17:05] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 is there a way to check?
[17:05] <coreymon77> okay
[17:05] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: type this into a terminal window
[17:05] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: lspci
[17:05] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: then paste the output in pastebin
[17:06] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 let me find a cable and see if i can get to the pastebin and paste it
[17:07] <coreymon77> does the laptop have any internet connection at all?
[17:07] <AndreSTC> thats what im going to do
[17:09] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 how do i copy something on the terminal?
[17:09] <AndreSTC> nvm
[17:09] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: same way as you copy everything else
[17:09] <coreymon77> :P
[17:09] <AndreSTC> yea, i figured out
[17:11] <karthikp> This is probably an old issue, but why does Gutsy not recognize a storage medium, such as a DVD, if it's connected (or in the drive) at bootup?
[17:11] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 http://rafb.net/p/4pMkxk39.html
[17:11] <karthikp> I usually have to eject the DVD and insert it back in to get it to automount.
[17:13] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: you sure thats the whole thing
[17:13] <coreymon77> ?
[17:14] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: you sure you didnt miss a part?
[17:15] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 yes, im sure
[17:15] <AndreSTC> is that bad? lol
[17:15] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: well, youre wireless card doesnt seem to appear there
[17:15] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: is it a usb or pmcia card?
[17:16] <AndreSTC> let me see if i can figure out
[17:17] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: try these
[17:17] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: lspmcia and lsusb
[17:17] <coreymon77> try those two seperately
[17:17] <coreymon77> then paste each in a pastebin
[17:18] <AndreSTC> [coreymon77]: lspmcia was not found
[17:18] <coreymon77> okay
[17:18] <coreymon77> and what about lsusb?
[17:18] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 lsusb found some stuff, let me paste
[17:19] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 http://rafb.net/p/FKXNQy12.html
[17:19] <coreymon77> umm okay
[17:20] <coreymon77> are you absolutely positive you pasted the entire lspci?
[17:20] <AndreSTC> yes
[17:21] <coreymon77> okay
[17:21] <coreymon77> in that case
[17:21] <coreymon77> the wireless card isnt detected at all
[17:21] <AndreSTC> ok
[17:21] <coreymon77> as far as kubuntu is concerned, according to this paste, there is no wifi card
[17:22]  * SlimeyPete reads up
[17:22] <coreymon77> do you know the manufacturers website for the laptop model
[17:22] <SlimeyPete> it's "lspcmcia"
[17:22] <SlimeyPete> just incase that makes a difference.
[17:22] <coreymon77> oh, whoops
[17:22] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: try that one
[17:22] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: lspcmcia
[17:22] <coreymon77> SlimeyPete: thanks
[17:23] <SlimeyPete> np. Easy mistake to make.
[17:23] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 http://rafb.net/p/6HFLSP24.html
[17:23] <coreymon77> OKAY
[17:23] <coreymon77> whoops
[17:24] <coreymon77> how did capslock go on?
[17:24] <coreymon77> anyways
[17:24] <boubbin> can i somehow run amarok in "screen" or within simething similar, so shutting down the x-server wont stop the music playback ?
[17:24] <coreymon77> that still didnt help us
[17:24] <AndreSTC> ok
[17:24] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: once again, do you know the manufacturers website for the laptop/can you find it for us
[17:25] <AndreSTC> [coreymon77]: let me see
[17:25] <coreymon77> SlimeyPete: wifi problems are hard to fix when you dont even know what card you are working with
[17:25] <SheeEttin> boubbin: why do you need to shut down the X server?
[17:25] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 its from amazonpc
[17:25] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: can you give me the link to the model's page?
[17:26] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 i have a cd with drivers here, but well... my cdrom isnt working either after i upgraded
[17:26] <boubbin> SheeEttin if sometimes i restart kde to make some changes effect and try different desktops like gnome and xfce, but i would like to hear the music while im trying these things, is it possible ?
[17:26] <coreymon77> huh?
[17:26] <coreymon77> so, what card are we talking about?
[17:27] <jussi01> Ok, im getting this error when I try run glxgears: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[17:27] <jussi01> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[17:27] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: doesnt the dirver cd say which card it is?
[17:27] <AndreSTC> [coreymon77]: hold on
[17:28] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 does this help? Realtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network Adapter
[17:29] <coreymon77> umm YES!
[17:29] <coreymon77> thats what i was looking for
[17:29] <AndreSTC> cool
[17:30] <Wunar> I've got a weird problem with Kubuntu 7.10. I've got specified in "special window settings" that skype should be forced on desktop #2, yet after login its on the default desktop; I can move skype to any desktop I want. But, if I open special window settings dialog, it instantly remembers that skype should be on desktop 2, and moves it there. What could be the problem?
[17:31] <coreymon77> damn
[17:31] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: sorry, i have to go
[17:31] <SlimeyPete> probably the session-management. Try moving it to desktop 2 and then logging out while it's still running.
[17:31] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: class is gonna start soon
[17:31] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: get someone else to finish helping
[17:31] <AndreSTC> [coreymon77]: thats ok
[17:31] <AndreSTC> coreymon77 thanks for ur time ;)
[17:31] <coreymon77> AndreSTC: im sorry
[17:31] <coreymon77> anyways
[17:31] <coreymon77> bye
[17:32] <Wunar> SlimeyPete: doesn't help, all the applications independent on where they were are back on the first desktop after logout/login
[17:33] <SheeEttin> Wunar: You sure the window is being identified correctly?
[17:33] <SlimeyPete> AndreSTC: http://globalsyzygy.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/fixing-your-rtl8187-netgear-wg111v2-in-ubuntu/    <-- mentions your chipset, might be worth looking at
[17:35] <Wunar> Yes. Seems like some process isn't running, or something, and when after login window settings dialog is opened, it kicks to life, applying changes
[17:35] <Wunar> ^applying settings
[17:36] <rysiek|pl> guys, what command can I use to check what DNS name has a given IP?
[17:36] <rysiek|pl> i.e. reverse DNS lookup
[17:36] <Wunar> because after that skype is forced on desktop 2, as requested
[17:36] <Dragnslcr> rysiek|pl- dig
[17:36] <AndreSTC> SlimeyPete ok, thanks
[17:39] <rysiek|pl> Dragnslcr: as far as I can see from the manpages, dig only does normal DNS lookups. I.e. I can get the IP of google.com, but I can't get the DNS name of 195.114.161.61
[17:39] <rysiek|pl> am I missing anything?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> rysiek|pl, some IPs are hidden even from dig
[17:41] <Dragnslcr> rysiek|pl- you can try nslookup
[17:41] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: I have my *own* local DNS server :)
[17:41] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: and am trying to test the revdns
[17:42] <SheeEttin> lol
[17:42] <SheeEttin> Excuse me a moment.
[17:43] <rysiek|pl> Dragnslcr: I can't see anything on nslookups manpage about reverse dns queries
[17:43] <ali> tets
[17:43] <Dragnslcr> nslookup a.b.c.d should work
[17:44] <jmichaelx> have any of you upgraded to KDE 3.5.9, and if so, what do you think of it?
[17:45] <boubbin> can i run amarok without x server but still be able to get the amarok session to my kde when x server is on ?
[17:45] <rysiek|pl> Dragnslcr: ** server can't find 1.200.168.192.in-addr.arpa: NXDOMAIN
[17:45] <rysiek|pl> Dragnslcr: seems like it's trying to do a regular DNS query
[17:45] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, yes and it seems ok, until the adept update is installed , then everything seems to hang for about 5-10secs before launching, that's my experience so far ...it's still buggy
[17:45] <Dragnslcr> No, it means it can't find a DNS entry for the address
[17:46] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: ty
[17:46] <Dragnslcr> rysiek|pl- try nslookup 72.14.207.99 for an example
[17:46] <BluesKaj> atleast it is on my setup, jmichaelx ..yours may be different
[17:47] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: i'm going to go ahead and give it a try. gutsy has been one bug after another for me anyways
[17:47] <rysiek|pl> Dragnslcr: ok, you were right. so it's my server config's fault; sorry about that
[17:48] <BluesKaj> hehe, jmichaelx yeah , I know what you mean ...i don't think Hardy is gonna be much better
[17:48] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: if that is true, i'll be switching distros
[17:49] <marcowismuth> test
[17:49] <marcowismuth> first time for me here
[17:49] <marcowismuth> what this ?
[17:50] <jussi01> marcowismuth: its a place to get help with kubuntu
[17:50]  * rysiek|pl gtg, cu all
[17:50] <jussi01> marcowismuth: type: /topic
[17:51] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: i run a few different distros, and and even though kubuntu is what i use primarily, fedora 8 has really impressed me, and has had FAR fewer hardware issue than kubuntu
[17:51] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, I do think the distro after Hardy will be fully supported like Dapper is , but my info so far is thet hardy won't be more than a 6 month thing just like gutsy
[17:52] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: : my understanding has been that Ubuntu would be LTS, but that Kubuntu hardy would not be, due to the introduction of KDE4
[17:52] <BluesKaj> yes jmichaelx , exactly what heard too.
[17:52] <BluesKaj> I heard
[17:52] <eser> hi all
[17:53] <marcowismuth> jussi : it feels very strange to me to be in IRC
[17:53] <marcowismuth> it's been a long time
[17:53] <SheeEttin> jmichaelx: Hardy'll use KDE 4?
[17:53] <eser> I need help with ps3 kubuntu , i cant boot with kde on startup , i always go to shell and had to write startx to open kde .. any solutions _?
[17:53] <jmichaelx> i really want to stay with kubuntu, but if the devs are not going to care any more than they do about wireless, for example, then i'm out
[17:54] <marcowismuth> so it's a place where people using linus can talk ?
[17:54] <jmichaelx> SheeEttin: that is my understanding
[17:54] <Dragnslcr> SheeEttin- not by default, but it will be in the repositories
[17:54] <marcowismuth> can we talk to devs here ?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> SheeEttin, jmichaelx , no hardy will stick with kde 3.5.8 or .9 afaik.
[17:54] <jmichaelx> Dragnslcr: : i see. i thought KDE4 would be default in hardy. i must have been misinformed
[17:55] <Dragnslcr> I doubt KDE 4.0 will be nearly stable enough to be the default for 8.04
[17:55] <Dragnslcr> Maybe for 8.10
[17:55] <flipstar> Dragnslcr: there will be one version with kde4, one without
[17:55] <flipstar> that one with kde3 will have lts
[17:55] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I've heard that, too
[17:55] <jmichaelx> i have KDE4.01 on this machine... i accidentaly removed the clock from the panel, and for the life of me, i cannot figure out how to put it back lol
[17:56] <SheeEttin> According to Riddell himself, 8.04 won't be LTS at all, but will ship with both KDE 4 and 3.5: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002066.html
[17:57] <Dragnslcr> I don't think KDE 3.5 is going to be supported for long enough to make 8.04 an LTS version
[17:57] <marcowismuth> one thing i don't understand : if ubuntu will be lts than kubuntu too, am i right ?
[17:57] <Dragnslcr> marcowismuth- no
[17:57] <jmichaelx> marcowismuth: apparently not
[17:58] <marcowismuth> i explain myself
[17:58] <marcowismuth> how can ubuntu be LTS and Kubuntu non LTS ?
[17:58] <jmichaelx> ok , i am going to reboot and see how things in 3.5.9 are
[17:58] <Dragnslcr> Because KDE 3.5 isn't going to be supported for 3 years
[17:59] <Dragnslcr> KDE 4.x will be the only active branch by then
[17:59] <karthikp> I didn't see much that was different in 3.5.9. Except in kontact.
[17:59] <karthikp> The calendar app seems a bit more ... colorful.
[18:01] <marcowismuth> hi guys
[18:01] <marcowismuth> can someone help me
[18:01] <marcowismuth> just a small question
[18:01] <steve__> Is there a way to monitor a web page to get an ip address from another computer
[18:01] <Dragnslcr> steve__- you might need to explain that some more
[18:02] <marcowismuth> each time i start kubuntu, the sound is turned off
[18:02] <marcowismuth> so i don't hear any sounds when starting kubuntu
[18:03] <steve__> someone got into my email and is still on it, so if possible i want to try and monitor that site and figure out his ip and get onto his computer
[18:04] <steve__> i don't know if that helps im bad with explanations
[18:04] <Dragnslcr> Do you control the email server?
[18:04] <marcowismuth> each time i start kubuntu, the sound is turned off
[18:05] <marcowismuth> how can i modificate it
[18:05] <marcowismuth> ?
[18:05] <steve__> no its a gmail account
[18:05] <Dragnslcr> Well did you change your password?
[18:06] <steve__> yeah, but they were signed on when i did and havent signed out yet
[18:06] <nzk> How do I enable 1440x900?
[18:06] <Dragnslcr> You'd have to contact Google then
[18:07] <fabi_> hallo hat jemand ne torrent site ?
[18:07] <steve__> ok
[18:07] <nzk> I'm running 1280x800 now, and it's an uncommon resolution so there are few wallpapers.
[18:07] <nzk> fabi_: Speak engliush
[18:07] <nzk> *english
[18:07] <fabi_> have anyone a good torrent sitze
[18:07] <fabi_> site
[18:07] <nzk> No
[18:07] <nzk> This is not the place to ask this
[18:08] <flipstar> fabi_: torrent.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <fabi_> thx
[18:14] <ghostcube> hi guys one question drive me nuts
[18:15] <ghostcube> is it possible somehow to get dolphin to show the hidden files every time i start it ???
[18:15] <ghostcube> kde 3.5.9 :O
[18:16] <SheeEttin> ghostcube: does it reset every time you close it?
[18:16] <ghostcube> SheeEttin: yes and thats strange
[18:16] <ghostcube> :)
[18:16] <ghostcube> its a nice tool but this drive me nuts
[18:16] <ghostcube> :D
[18:18] <ghostcube> ahh and i got an feature request is it possible to sort by file types ? :)
[18:18] <ghostcube> havent found the option till now so i just ask
[18:19] <oloughlin75> does manybody know why amarok might not display my collection? Its still playing my playlist from last session, but no collection?
[18:19] <ghostcube> im on gutsy 7.10 fresh install upadtes from today
[18:20] <MrJigsaw> oloughlin75: try #Amarok :-)
[18:20] <oloughlin75> MrJigsaw: weird... the folder with my music isnt selected :/
[18:20] <ghostcube> maybe just select it :)
[18:21] <oloughlin75> ouhh  the pain in rebuilding the collection
[18:21] <ghostcube> lol
[18:21] <jhutchins_lt> ghostcube: Dolphin is a KDE project, not kubuntu.
[18:21] <ghostcube> jhutchins: i know about this i thought anyone knows about here
[18:21] <ghostcube> :)
[18:21] <oloughlin75> ghostcube: whatre you trying to do?
[18:22] <ghostcube> i wanna get dolphin to show hidden files every time i launch it
[18:22] <ghostcube> i must enable the feature every time
[18:22] <ghostcube> but i can ask in kde :)
[18:22] <oloughlin75> theres got to be a way..
[18:23] <oloughlin75> ghostcube: try save view properties for every folder
[18:23] <nzk> Hmm. gnome-terminal stopped opening links recently.
[18:23] <oloughlin75> and show hidden in whatever ones yoyu want
[18:23] <ghostcube> oloughlin75: i tried doesnt help
[18:23] <ghostcube> thats the starnge part
[18:23] <oloughlin75> lol
[18:24] <oloughlin75> there arent a lot if settings to try :/
[18:24] <ghostcube> yes :)
[18:24] <ghostcube> and no safe as default session or so
[18:28] <ghostcube> oh kde4 dolphin sorts by file types heh :) one prob less
[18:34] <ghostcube> cu
[18:34] <joseph> does anyone know of a good review page of password managers for kde?
[18:39] <jhutchins_lt> joseph: There's something besides kwallet?
[18:39] <joseph> jhutchins: does kwallet generate passwords and such?
[18:39] <jhutchins_lt> Dunno, I can't stand using it.  Save's em.
[18:40] <joseph> jhutchins: so do you just memorize all your passwords?
[18:41] <dwidmann> Hmm, has anybody else been having trouble with cups and/or foomatic printing lately?
[18:42] <jhutchins_lt> joseph: Mostly.  I try to use meaningful ones.
[18:42] <jhutchins_lt> dwidmann: Yes, trouble remote printing to cups.
[18:42] <joseph> jhutchins: OK.  Thanks for your help.
[18:43] <dwidmann> jhutchins_lt: I can't even get local printing(usb) to work at the moment ... dies with this error:
[18:43] <dwidmann> E [20/Feb/2008:13:38:55 -0500] PID 9355 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 1!
[18:43] <dwidmann> E [20/Feb/2008:13:38:55 -0500] [Job 150] Job stopped due to filter errors.
[18:44] <flipstar> joseph: there was something like kpass..you might google it..i didnt tried
[18:44] <jhutchins_lt> dwidmann: I lost my parallel connection when I did my last upgrade (on another distro).
[18:44] <joseph> flipstar: i'd like to have something that is already in the repos, if possible.
[18:44] <dwidmann> Come to think of it .... there is a package I forgot to downgrade ... I'm going to try that now
[18:46] <beheadingpain> hi i've been eating kfc chicken wings 3 weeks straight is that bad for my body? how long can i continue?
[18:47] <dwidmann> jhutchins_lt: hmm, no juice there either :(
[18:48]  * dwidmann looks for more packages to downgrade
[18:50] <dwidmann> beheadingpain: You can continue until you die or get sick of it, whether I'd recommend that or not is another story altogether.
[18:51] <flipstar> joseph: it is in the repos.. called 'keepassx' ..
[18:51] <flipstar> !info keepassx > joseph
[18:51] <joseph> flipstar: Thank you.
[18:51] <buz> beheadingpain: you may want to watch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me
[18:51] <buz> even if its pretty sensationalist
[18:52] <buz> (on the off chance that you arent trolling)
[18:52] <beheadingpain> dwidmann how woul di die from it
[18:52] <beheadingpain> feels so good to eat that
[18:53] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:53] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:53] <dwidmann> beheadingpain: I didn't say you'd die from it, I said you could eat it until you die, completely different :P
[18:53] <jhutchins> dwidmann: Replies are also offtopic.
[18:54] <beheadingpain> Thanks!
[18:54] <dwidmann> jhutchins ... I know, but it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot else that one might call "productive" going on here either ....
[18:54] <vampyricpenguin> Quick question. How do I install/uninstall a package and not run the script?
[18:54] <beheadingpain> dwidmann wouldn't i get healthy from it and gain meat and muscles?
[18:55] <pete_> Hi does anyone know how to sync an Ipod Touch Jailbroken with Kubuntu?
[18:56] <vampyricpenguin> Pete, did you try amarok?
[18:56] <pete_> nope not yet
[18:56] <pete_> ill take a look at it
[18:56] <kalorin> has anyone tried an iPhone with amaork?
[18:56] <pete_> i havent
[18:56] <pete_> trying ot do it with ipod touch
[18:56] <holo> who design this amarok gui?
[18:56] <kalorin> I've heard that you _MUST_ use iTunes to activate an iPhone
[18:57] <holo> its the most crappy media interface i ever saw..
[18:57] <kalorin> which I find very disappointing
[18:57] <pete_> so with amorak does it work like iTunes?
[18:57] <cloakable> Hi, I'm planning an install on an AMD 64bit laptop tommorow. Do you reccomend I use the 32bit or 64bit edition?
[18:57] <dwidmann> vampyricpenguin: hard to say ... might be easier to rebuild it from source, without the scripts included.
[18:57] <vampyricpenguin> No, amarok does not work with Itunes.
[18:57] <pete_> does it work like it?
[18:57] <joseph> holo: i'd ask the folks in #amarok.
[18:57] <pete_> in the same way
[18:57] <holo> cloakable: it depends, are you going to run matlab?
[18:58] <cloakable> holo: Not that I know. Would I want to run/install it for anything, though?
[18:58] <pete_> So does kubuntu find the drivers for ipod touch ?
[18:59] <oloughlin75> pete_: amarok can sync with ipod i believe
[18:59] <vampyricpenguin> dwidmann, I have a cups driver I converted from an rpm file using alien I'm trying to remove.
[18:59] <holo> cloakable: think about the proprietary software you need.. check their support for amd64.. if positive, procced to install. if you make the wrong choice, expect extreme hacking
[18:59] <pete_> ok so its jsut a case of pluggin it in ?
[18:59] <cloakable> holo: Flash, java
[18:59] <vampyricpenguin> The uninstall script won't run successfully. It's marked for removal and I can't unmark it.
[19:00] <holo> cloakable: no, java is ok
[19:00] <cloakable> holo: I'm under the impression there's no amd64 support for those?
[19:00] <cloakable> Or is it only flash?
[19:00] <beheadingpain> i have high cholesterol how long till i'll die if i don't lower it and keep eating chicken wings and sit on my leg all day?
[19:00] <holo> cloakable: flash, matlab (if you get a matlab release of 2007a is ok though) that i know
[19:01] <vampyricpenguin> cloakable.. Flash is 32bit only. You probably wanna install the 32 bit version of Firefox so you can use adobe's Flash player.
[19:01] <oloughlin75> beheadingpain: ~2 years
[19:01] <cloakable> vampyricpenguin: No konqueror support? :/
[19:02] <vampyricpenguin> Not for 64bit Konqueror.
[19:02] <beheadingpain> oloughlin75 what if you quit one day before 2 years?
[19:02] <oloughlin75> beheadingpain: uhh, itll be a bit too late
[19:03] <oloughlin75> !ot | beheadingpain
[19:03] <ubotu> beheadingpain: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:03] <vampyricpenguin> You can have a 64bit system and a 32 bit browser. But you can't use a 64bit browser and a 32 bit browser plugin.
[19:03] <beheadingpain> oloughlin75 when is it to not too late?
[19:04] <cloakable> vampyricpenguin: Probably use the 32bit version, then :P Firefox is ugly under KDE
[19:04] <buz> cloakable: if in doubt, go 32bit
[19:04] <beheadingpain> is heart attack painful if so how much?
[19:04] <buz> unless you really need more than 3G of ram, 64bit is not worth the troube IMHO
[19:04] <cloakable> buz: 32bit coming down the pipe :D
[19:04] <oloughlin75> beheadingpain: You should talk to your physician for your approximate lifespan :/
[19:04] <buz> can someone kick him already
[19:05] <vampyricpenguin> cloakable, I would install amd64 version of Kubuntu, but use the 32 bit version of Firefox.
[19:06] <rohan> the kde 3.5.9 packages from the ppa repository are not gpg signed, right?
[19:06] <buz> rohan: ppa is never signed
[19:06] <cloakable> vampyricpenguin: How come?
[19:06] <buz> you get 64bit bragging rights
[19:06] <rohan> buz: ok, thanks for confirming :)
[19:07] <rohan> why do you need 64bit anyway, cloakable ?
[19:07] <rohan> are you going to do some heavy compiling or so?
[19:08] <cloakable> rohan: No compiling, but the laptop is amd64
[19:08] <vampyricpenguin> cloakable, Optimized code runs a wee bit faster.
[19:08] <rohan> cloakable: that still is not reason enough to go for 64bit version of linux :)
[19:08] <cloakable> vampyricpenguin: ahh.
[19:08] <cloakable> rohan: Heh.
[19:08] <hydrogen> not really worth it
[19:09] <hydrogen> unless you happen to have more than four gigs of ram
[19:09] <hydrogen> which in a laptop would be a bit stupid
[19:09] <rohan> imo, it's fine with distros like fedora or suse where you can install packages from different architechtures without any pain. but on debian based systems, it's an unnecessary pita
[19:09] <cloakable> Ah
[19:09] <cloakable> hydrogen: only 1gig :P
[19:09] <vampyricpenguin> gotta go.
[19:10] <jeisma> my knetworkmanager doesn't show the wireless connections available anymore
[19:10] <jeisma> anyone know how i can get them to show?
[19:12] <SlimeyPete> jeisma: did you use the "manual configuration" option at some point?
[19:12] <jeisma> SlimeyPete yes, i did, but this is after my wireless stopped showing up
[19:12] <SlimeyPete> hmm
[19:12] <jeisma> SlimeyPete to be specific, i started up my linux one day, the wireless around showed up, and then they all went away
[19:12] <jeisma> SlimeyPete so i went into manual config and it said my wireeless was disabled, i enabled it, and now nothing comes up still
[19:12] <gary_> Evening..
[19:13] <SlimeyPete> check the file "/etc/network/interfaces". Check that there are no interfaces named like "ath0" or "wifi0" or similar.
[19:13] <SlimeyPete> if there are any, networkmanager stops showing networks
[19:13] <angel> hello
[19:14] <angel> how are you??
[19:14] <SlimeyPete> hi
[19:14] <angel> i am new user if kubuntu
[19:14] <jeisma> SlimeyPete: these are the last 2 lines
[19:14] <jeisma> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[19:14] <jeisma> auto wlan0
[19:14] <SlimeyPete> jeisma: aha. Put a '#' before each of those lines.
[19:15] <jeisma> EXCELLENT
[19:15] <jeisma> thanks slimeypete
[19:15] <SlimeyPete> no problem.
[19:15] <gary_> I've just managed to get my rt2870 based wlan usb stick going 802.11n in ubuntu. This card rox!
[19:15] <gary_> Native driver with built in wpa.. No supplicant.
[19:17] <gary_> Does anyone know how to access the sd-card in my Windows Mobile phone through usb?
[19:21] <gary_> When i connect it, it created eth1 and if i assign an ip i can connect using sftp. I have no idea how to log in though.
[19:23] <Pici> gary_: you may want to try asking in #ubuntu as well if you don't get an answer here.
[19:24] <gary_> Ok.. I'll try.
[19:25] <keto> hi
[19:25] <keto> every1
[19:28] <unagi> what is the shortcut for kill app?
[19:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> terminal - killall <processname>
[19:29] <jhutchins> unagi: Ctrl-Alt-Esc?
[19:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> or alt+f2, xkill
[19:29] <jhutchins> or pkill <processname>
[19:29] <unagi> ctrl alt esc is what i was looking for ty
[19:30] <jhutchins> Or maybe you just wanted Alt-F4?
[19:30] <Pablo_32> Hi all.
[19:30] <jhutchins> Ctrl-W?
[19:30] <jhutchins> Do we have too many options?
[19:30] <unagi> um ok
[19:30] <unagi> no
[19:30] <flipstar> ctrg+q also works
[19:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> kill <pid> is another option
[19:30] <Pablo_32> Anyone can tell me if it's possible configure a wpa wireless network on Kubuntu?
[19:30] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Laptop: You still have to specify a signal to kill, don't you?
[19:31] <jhutchins> Pablo_32: Possible? Yes.
[19:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> jhutchins: iunno, never used kill on its own
[19:31] <Pablo_32> jhutchins: Thank you. How can i do that?
[19:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> i use killall because it's somewhat human readable
[19:31] <flipstar> !wpa > Pablo_32
[19:32] <cva> no siganl needed, it defaults to 15
[19:32] <flipstar> prob is you have to gather the pid first ..
[19:32] <Jonty> I'm trying to get jackd working low-latency using realtime-lsm, but I just can't get it working. Is there a guide somewhere or better way of doing it?
[19:32] <Pablo_32> Thank's a lot
[19:33] <jhutchins> cva: Used to prod you.  And it used to require capital letters if you wanted an alpha signal, which is why most of us know the numbers better.
[19:36] <keto> konqueror do  not show the internet pages complete?
[19:37] <ahmos> Hi, I need to install a dictionary..does anyone know a good one,and I preffer not to be an online dic.?!
[19:38] <abed> salutations all
[19:39] <keto> do  i have to  install another web explorer?
[19:39] <Abooda> use firefox
[19:39] <Abooda> that's crazy that you mentioned that
[19:39] <Abooda> I've just gone through that problem myself
[19:39] <ahmos> yeah firefox is preety good
[19:39] <Abooda> it's easy, free, etc etc
[19:39] <Abooda> and if you're using kubuntu
[19:40] <Abooda> adept manager-->search
[19:40] <Abooda> it's easy
[19:40] <jussi01> keto: is it just the flash parts or java or other bits??
[19:40] <keto> im know im just installl kubuntu
[19:40] <jussi01> !enter | Abooda
[19:40] <ubotu> Abooda: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:41] <keto> so  i have to install java  from the koqueror
[19:41] <jussi01> !java | keto
[19:41] <keto> so  i have to install java  from the koqueror?
[19:41] <ubotu> keto: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[19:42] <jussi01> !flash | keto
[19:42] <ubotu> keto: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:43] <root-----> hi gues
[19:43] <jpatrick> keto: just install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:43] <root-----> whats up
[19:44] <Abooda> uhm, silly question, but does anybody know how to message a channel? is it "msg #CHANNEL NAME <message here>"?
[19:44] <jpatrick> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras > keto
[19:44] <jpatrick> !ot > root-----
[19:44] <jhutchins> Abooda: What would you expect to happen if you did that?
[19:44] <jpatrick> Abooda: /msg #channel <text>
[19:45] <jhutchins> Is that a way to drop a text into a channel you're not currently watching?
[19:45] <root-----> Hi, i have a server and 30 clients. (10 windows 20 linux.) i want to pxe boot them all (so every time its rebooted. i get same os and confgs. making linux as my server. 2. i want to make a user account (in all those 30 machines) stop or screen lock after every 30 minuts (runing apps should not be closed) the user just have to enter password again.
[19:45] <root----->  3.for every such event of unlocking screen and giving pwd.(i 'guess' thats logging in?) i get stats on server.. possible? do i need any thing else. like ldap ? any suggestions?
[19:45] <Abooda> good point
[19:45] <Abooda> I need to ask for an invite
[19:45]  * root----- thanks jpatrick
[19:45] <jpatrick> root-----: nice setup...
[19:46] <root-----> jpatrick thx. but how can i do it
[19:46] <jpatrick> root-----: no idea sorry, I'm not a sysadmin :)
[19:46] <root-----> k
[19:46] <kapiton> hi all
[19:47] <jhutchins> root-----: Not too hard.  Launch a script at login with a timer.
[19:47] <unagi_> !blu-ray
[19:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blu-ray - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:47] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > unagi_
[19:47] <kapiton> is there a firewall in kubuntu 7.10 by default?
[19:48] <SlimeyPete> no
[19:48] <kapiton> cant find
[19:48] <SlimeyPete> well, there is but it's turned off
[19:48] <SlimeyPete> you can install & use guarddog to turn it on
[19:48] <kapiton> so whats its name?=)
[19:49] <kapiton> and from console i cant?
[19:49] <root-----> jhutchins ya but the script will lock screen after every 30 mins. i can do that. but suppose a persone sits for 30 mins. then 15 min game. and other person comes . after 15  min. the script will close the screen since 15 mins of usage have passed
[19:49] <SlimeyPete> the firewall is known as iptables. If you want to do it in the console then you'll want to google for an iptables HOWTO.
[19:49] <keto> kubuntu-restricted-extras? how to  install?
[19:49] <SlimeyPete> !iptables
[19:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[19:49] <root-----> jhutchins need detail. and how to log that on server?
[19:50] <jhutchins> shorewall's an iptables manager for console, but probably overkill.
[19:50] <keto> kubuntu-restricted-extras? how to  install?
[19:50] <jhutchins> root-----: Frankly, that sounds like work, and I'd have to charge you a fortune for it.
[19:51] <SlimeyPete> keto: use adept
[19:51] <jhutchins> root-----: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
[19:51] <root-----> jhutchins just pooint me
[19:51] <root-----> thx
[19:52] <jhutchins> root-----: see also: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
[19:52] <jhutchins> Erg....
[19:52] <jhutchins> http://tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html
[19:52] <keto> whats adept??
[19:53] <kapiton> installer
[19:53] <jpatrick> !adept | keto
[19:53] <ubotu> keto: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:56] <keto> ok
[19:57] <keto> i am in adept
[19:58] <keto> i   heve to choose something?
[20:00] <jhutchins> keto: No, you don't have to.
[20:01] <keto> instal any package?
[20:04] <jpatrick> keto: install kubuntu-restricted-extras if you want java, flash, etc
[20:04] <keto> ok
[20:06] <TimS> !adeptfix
[20:06] <TimS> :o
[20:06] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:09] <keto> ok i find kubuntu restricted extras how can i install it?
[20:09] <SlimeyPete> right-click, select install
[20:10] <SlimeyPete> then press "apply" at the top
[20:12] <keto> ty smily
[20:13] <Abooda> hmmm
[20:13] <Abooda> who knows where support files for foreign languages (scripts) can be found?
[20:16] <Raidu> Hey guys can anyone help me with vine ? I cant get photoshop to work with it  :(
[20:16] <gary_> Gimp?
[20:17] <ramon> avdvgfd
[20:17] <jpatrick> !es | ramon
[20:17] <ubotu> ramon: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:18] <gary_> Anyone using kexi?
[20:18] <gary_> I'm missing the default templates.
[20:20] <Strangelet> How do I change what my name appears to be when I send IMs in Kopete? Using the AIM protocol, I do not want my name to be "Strangework3005", I want it to say "Nick". How do I do that?
[20:21] <jhutchins> Strangelet: Get lucky and grab the "Nick" account name in about, oh, 1992.
[20:21] <gary_> Settings/Configure/Identity
[20:21] <Strangelet> jhutchins: Tried, I was too late
[20:21]  * jhutchins has abandoned nicks on networks here and there.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> Strangelet, perhaps #kopete chat can help
[20:22] <Strangelet> gary_, I have set to Nick there, but it doens't change
[20:22] <Strangelet> I will give it a shot there BluesKaj, thanks
[20:22] <jhutchins> The client has to be set to show the nickname instead of the username too.
[20:23] <jhutchins> Strangelet: Which means people are going to be able to see your username anyway.
[20:23] <Strangelet> jhutchins: Oh, that is fine, I would just like to see 'Nick' as my own alias
[20:24] <keto> the adept found a fail and close..... im try to open it again and i cant
[20:24] <BluesKaj> maybe your nick was nick'd :)
[20:25] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | keto
[20:25] <ubotu> keto: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:25] <SlimeyPete> keto: you could try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras" from a terminal instead of adept
[20:27] <gary_> Could someone please send me the default templates for kexi and tell me where to put them?
[20:28] <keto> "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras" from a terminal instead of adept...
[20:28] <keto> how i can do  that?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> keto, open kmenu/konsole
[20:30] <keto> got it
[20:31] <keto> terminal=konsole
[20:31] <root-----> badly need help with networking. please need your 5 mins.. http://pastebin.com/m2fbb2d05
[20:32] <BluesKaj> keto, yes terminal=konsole
[20:32] <ScorpKing> root-----: can we chat in private?
[20:32] <root-----> ScorpKing sure !
[20:33] <keto> ok i am in the Konsole
[20:34] <BluesKaj> keto, type, or copy and paste this into the konsole : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:34] <danka> hellop
[20:36] <bastid_raZor> is there a way to find out why a package was put on hold if the user did not hold it?
[20:36] <keto> "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras" i did
[20:38] <keto> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:38] <BluesKaj> keto, don't use the "
[20:39] <BluesKaj> ok, keto. dpkg --configure -a , in the konsole
[20:42] <AndreSTC> Where can i configure standby options(im on a notebook). Its not working because everytime i close the note, it turns off.
[20:42] <TimS> !virtualbox
[20:42] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[20:43] <trappist> AndreSTC: I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the script that does it is /etc/acpi/lid.sh - if you can find what's calling that I think you'll be on the right track.
ok, keto. dpkg --configure -a , in the konsole
[20:45] <keto> how to configure-a in the console
[20:45] <AndreSTC> [trappist]: COuldnt atgtach to DCOP server!
[20:45] <AndreSTC> Couldn't attach*
[20:45] <trappist> AndreSTC: not sure what you're talking about
[20:46] <AndreSTC> thats what happaned when i looked for the script
[20:46] <BluesKaj> keto, type or copy and paste , dpkg --configure -a   , in the konsole , understand?
[20:46] <trappist> AndreSTC: how did you look for the script.
[20:46] <keto> i got it
[20:46] <keto> i did
[20:46] <AndreSTC> nvm, forgot to "cat" trappist
[20:47] <keto> now i give enter??
[20:47] <venik> Is there a program similar to SCP or winSCP with a nice GUI running under kubuntu?
[20:47] <llutz> kkonqueror
[20:47] <venik> SCP (secure Copy)
[20:47] <llutz> venik: konqueror
[20:48] <BluesKaj> keto ,yes
[20:48] <venik> llutz-- let me try..
[20:48] <emilsedgh> venik: fish:// or scp command
[20:48] <venik> fish?
[20:48] <llutz> name of the used protocol
[20:49] <keto> it says need privilege superuser
[20:49] <emilsedgh> venik: go in konqueror and type fish://hostname
[20:49] <BluesKaj> keto, use your login password
[20:49] <keto> ok
[20:50] <venik> when I did that, I got my own file system
[20:50] <trappist> venik: what did you put for hostname?
[20:51] <gary_> Where does Kexi look for templates?
[20:51] <gary_> Anyone?
[20:52] <venik> the name of the server I wanted to copy files to
[20:52] <keto> it shows me my paswor when i type it after keto@ubuntuketo:~$
[20:52] <TimS> !adeptfix
[20:52] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:53] <BluesKaj> keto, press enter
[20:53] <SheeEttin> BluesKaj: Perhaps he should also use sudo...
[20:53] <keto> i did
[20:53] <venik> what am I supposed to type after fish? Which hostname?
[20:54] <trappist> venik: the remote host.  use the ip address if it doesn't resolve.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> SheeEttin, that's why it asked for his pw
[20:54] <danka> holle
[20:55] <danka> hello
[20:55] <encrypt128bit> Can someone tell me if using LVM is superior to having seperate partitions made
[20:55] <jhutchins> Just to throw another opinion in...  fish://user@remotehost
[20:55] <danka> toc-toc
[20:55] <jhutchins> Otherwise it assumes current username.
[20:55] <jhutchins> fish should not require root privileges.
[20:55] <jhutchins> !ask
[20:55] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:56] <BluesKaj> keto , close and reopen the konsole , type : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:56] <trappist> jhutchins: in my opinion, unless you're taking advantage of lvm features, no - you're just adding another point of failure and some (light) additional overhead.
[20:57] <jhutchins> trappist: Sorry, what was that in response to?
[20:57] <trappist> jhutchins: oops, sorry, meant for encrypt128bit
[20:57] <trappist> encrypt128bit: in my opinion, unless you're taking advantage of lvm features, no - you're just adding another point of failure and some (light) additional overhead.
[20:57] <jhutchins> trappist: ah, I see that now.
[20:58] <jhutchins> encrypt128bit: lvm is evil.
[20:58] <keto> it works
[20:58] <jhutchins> keto: Of course it does!
[20:58] <jhutchins> keto: It's actually very handy, I'm quite out of the habit of hand-hacking my web pages now, I just use fish and quanta.
[20:59] <encrypt128bit> jhutchins: Thanks. heh, if/when i get ubuntu to install i want to be sure im using the best way to handle the system. So, in your opinion would making a 10 gig ext3 root, a 3gig swap and the rest of the space avaible /home ext3 be a wise decision?
[20:59] <keto> what i do now?
[21:00] <jhutchins> encrypt128bit: in my experience, it's best to have just / and swap.
[21:00] <jhutchins> Back up the data in home so reinstalling isn't an issue.
[21:00] <MrJoey> In the Ubiquity (default) installer, if you use the first partitioning option (like in this dialog:  http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistydual06rw5.png), and there's a Windows NTFS partition, will it automatically shrink the Windows partition and install Linux in the free space specified?
[21:00] <encrypt128bit> jhutchins: Thanks
[21:01] <jhutchins> encrypt128bit: I don't store much in /home/jhutchins, mostly it's on a server symlinked to there.
[21:01] <jhutchins> encrypt128bit: I've hit a lot of systems that ran out of space in / or /var because they put all the space in the /home partition.
[21:01] <keto> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras ??
[21:01] <jhutchins> encrypt128bit: My gentoo samba server at the law office has some wierd symlinks to fix that problem.
[21:02] <encrypt128bit> jhutchins: Ahh, heheh. good point.
[21:02] <keto> i did it and works
[21:02] <jhutchins> Murphy's law says that if you partition, the space you need will be on the wrong partition.
[21:02] <keto> but it says sun-java6-bin: Depende: sun-java6-jre (= 6-03-0ubuntu2) pero no va a instalarse
[21:03] <trappist> encrypt128bit_: http://blog.linuxkungfu.org/blog/index.php?/archives/15-My-Partitioning-Preferences.html
[21:03] <encrypt128bit> thanks trappist
[21:04] <BluesKaj> keto, maybe #kubuntu-es will help you
[21:04] <trappist> keto: try, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin
[21:05] <jhutchins> !java | keto
[21:05] <ubotu> keto: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[21:05] <encrypt128bit> Is there a maximum space you can set your swap to? like, double your ram or what.
[21:06] <jhutchins> encrypt128bit: It can be whatever you want, rule-of-thumb has been 2x RAM up to 2G.
[21:06] <trappist> encrypt128bit: there's a maximum you *should* set your swap space to.  that number is hotly debated and depends on how you'll be using the machine, how much ram you have, etc.
[21:07] <encrypt128bit> Thanks again. Heh
[21:07] <trappist> encrypt128bit: if you're using a 32bit OS, and your ram+swap exceeds 4GB, you can't use anything more than that.
[21:07] <jhutchins> If you're going to do something that, say, pokes a 6G video into /tmp, it had better be plenty.
[21:08] <jhutchins> However, if you actually _use_ more than 2x RAM you'll spend an awful lot of time swapping.
[21:08] <ScorpKing> root-----: http://www.outkastsolutions.co.za/outkast/index.php?option=com_openwiki&Itemid=45&id=outkafe
[21:09] <trappist> I like to have 32MB of physical ram and put my swapfile on a samba mount
[21:09] <trappist> helps prevent boredom
[21:11] <karl_> when i am installing libc6 i get "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place, /sbin/ldconfig.real: Cannot mmap file /lib/libc.so.6."
[21:11] <root-----> ScorpKing ok
[21:12] <karl_> any idea how to reconsile so libc6 will install?
[21:15] <ubuntu> hello
[21:15] <ubuntu> my first time using kubuntu
[21:15] <ubuntu> anyone there
[21:16] <ScorpKing> !hi | ubuntu
[21:16] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[21:16] <ubuntu> hey
[21:16] <TimS> How do I kill pid 16541
[21:16] <ScorpKing> TimS: sudo kill 16541
[21:16] <ubuntu> so how do i fix my screen
[21:16] <TimS> Cheers
[21:16] <m1fcj> hi all, I have a problem with Compiz, every time I login, if freezes my KDE session, logging in with Gnome, I can see a config which was different than mine
[21:16] <m1fcj> how do I prevent Compiz from being initialized after I login?
[21:17] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: what's wrong with it?
[21:17] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: look in .kde/Autostart if there isn't a script that starts it when you log in
[21:18] <m1fcj> ScorpKing: Autosstart directory is virtually empty (apart from a .directory)
[21:18] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Welcome!
[21:18] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: does it freeze straight away?
[21:18] <m1fcj> I touched a $HOME/.config/compiz/disable-compiz but didn't work out
[21:19] <m1fcj> ScorpKing: KDe starts up and loads, when it's loading my session, it attempts to start compiz, after that keyboard and mouse is out of action, CTRL-ALT-Fx doesn't work
[21:19] <m1fcj> unfortunately it's on wireless so I can't get on to it using ssh either (knetworkmanager kicks in at one point and asks for the key)
[21:19] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: try - echo "kwin --replace" > .kde/Autostart/disable_compiz.sh
[21:20] <twosouls82> hehehe
[21:20] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: and delete that file if it works
[21:21] <ubuntu> can anyone help me fix my monitor
[21:21] <ubuntu> i started kubuntu
[21:21] <ubuntu> but i cant see the left side of the screen
[21:21] <ScorpKing> !ask | ubuntu
[21:21] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:21] <ubuntu> 1/5 of the screen
[21:21] <ubuntu> lol
[21:22] <m1fcj> attempting that now
[21:22] <ubuntu> thanks
[21:22] <ubuntu> so i do i get into administrator mode
[21:23] <jpatrick> !sudo | ubuntu
[21:23] <ubotu> ubuntu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[21:23] <jpatrick> !kdesudo | ubotu
[21:23] <ubotu> ubotu: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[21:23] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: press alt+f2 and run kcontrol. look uner peripherals --> monitor & display
[21:23] <m1fcj> nope... didn't work... still ended up with a completely blank scren
[21:23] <ScorpKing> under*
[21:24] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: that should have disabled compiz. weird. look on google how to disable it from konsole
[21:24] <ubuntu> alt + f2 gives me the run command window
[21:25] <m1fcj> there are no good stuff on the google about disabling it... most of the people are fighting to enable it :)
[21:25] <m1fcj> completely removing compiz now to see if I can get something back!
[21:25] <Black_Monkey> woah, it changed to kdesudo in gutsy? O_o
[21:26] <Black_Monkey> I swear I've still been using kdesu...
[21:27] <ScorpKing> Black_Monkey: kdesu is linked to kdesudo
[21:27] <Black_Monkey> ah right
[21:27] <Black_Monkey> is there any difference between the two?
[21:27] <m1fcj> ok, someone explain to me why I still have compiz in /usr/bin after purging anything that has compiz in the name? :-)
[21:27] <athena> hi...what the apt get to update the software? I jjst installed
[21:27] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: aptitude search compiz and see what's still installed
[21:28] <athena> well the first thing i want to do is make sure i don't need to use aptitude...i prefer synaptic
[21:28] <BluesKaj> athena, sudo apt-get update
[21:28] <ScorpKing> Black_Monkey: in konsole run 'which kdesu' and the ls -l /<where_it_is
[21:28] <athena> thanks
[21:28] <ScorpKing> then*
[21:29] <ScorpKing> Black_Monkey: ls -l /usr/bin/kdesu ;)
[21:30] <Black_Monkey> just shows me that file...
[21:30] <ScorpKing> Black_Monkey: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2003-01-05 02:02 /usr/bin/kdesu -> kdesudo
[21:31] <Black_Monkey> mine doesn't say that
[21:31] <twosouls82> file /usr/bin/kdesu => /usr/bin/kdesu: symbolic link to `kdesudo'
[21:31] <Black_Monkey> just shows it as a normal file
[21:31] <ScorpKing> Black_Monkey: weird. maybe you have it installed
[21:32] <twosouls82> Black_Monkey: cat /etc/issue
[21:32] <Black_Monkey> but I mean, is there any difference between feisty's kdesu and gutsy's kdesudo, or just a name change?
[21:32] <twosouls82> what version do you use?
[21:32] <Black_Monkey> Ubuntu 7.10 \n \l
[21:32] <ScorpKing> Black_Monkey: kdesudo has a few changes and is more secure that kdesu
[21:32] <m1fcj> after some dpkg -P's... now my user can log in...
[21:33] <Black_Monkey> hm, I don't have kdesudo
[21:33] <athena> what would i type in to get the synaptic package manager? I think i can do it from there
[21:33] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: hehe. what else was installed?
[21:33] <m1fcj> ScorpKing: any idea where KDE stores its compiz config? I suspect it is different than where gnome stores...
[21:33] <athena> (it was adept, not aptitude i didn't like)
[21:33] <m1fcj> All bunch of Compiz libraries and core binaries, they're all gone
[21:33] <slow-motion> n8
[21:33] <BluesKaj> athena , in the konsole : sudo apt-get install synaptic
[21:33] <ScorpKing> m1fcj: no idea. try grep -r compiz /home/you/
[21:34] <m1fcj> hmm, I did find . -iname *compiz* but that's a good idea...
[21:34]  * ScorpKing doesn't know how to use find..
[21:34] <BluesKaj> athena, perhaps you need to enable more repositories in your sources.list
[21:34] <twosouls82> use "find $HOME -iname '*compiz*'"
[21:35] <athena> again thanks :-)
[21:35] <m1fcj> naively I thought it must be in a file including the name compiz! :)
[21:35] <m1fcj> OK, grepping through the home dir now
[21:35] <m1fcj> (actually I loved compiz, flaky but very flashy :) )
[21:36] <denis_> Hi, guys. Please, help me. After update to 3.5.9 from this repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu I see / folder on my desktop instead ~/Desktop.
[21:36]  * ScorpKing figures out how to play widelands..
[21:37] <Black_Monkey> denis_: in System Settings>About Me>Paths, there is an option to change your desktop folder
[21:38] <denis_> No, this can't help
[21:38] <martijn81> denis_: i had that too until i rebootted
[21:40] <BluesKaj> denis_, the /Documents folder is empty , right ?...dunno why it's there either
[21:40] <denis_> reboot doesn't help
[21:40] <denis_> ~/Desktop isn't empty
[21:41] <BluesKaj> denis_, I have it in my System Menu list..  /Documents
[21:51] <BluesKaj> Hmm, that /home/user/documents folder is new , and it exists in the system settings path for some reason, but i can't figure out why ?
[21:51] <BluesKaj> there's no need for it afaik
[22:03] <tcm> Is some one here runing Kubuntu on a Dell 1420N. If; how well does it run?
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> tcm: yes, and awesome
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i love my 1420n
[22:05] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: XDG I think
[22:05] <Daisuke_Ido> you *will* have problems with svideo out, the 965 drivers aren't perfect yet
[22:05] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, XDG ?
[22:05] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Freedesktop spec
[22:06] <DaSkreech> You gotta have certain Folders like Desktop, Documents etc
[22:06] <DaSkreech> Annnnnoying
[22:06] <BluesKaj> yesssss , annoying ...already have my own desktop folders setup
[22:07] <BluesKaj> actually the folders you mentioned weren't on my desktop they were in /home/user
[22:08] <DFlame> Can anyone give me a recommendation on what to use to stream music over a LAN? Cheers
[22:08] <trappist> !info mpd
[22:08] <ubotu> mpd (source: mpd): Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.0-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 137 kB, installed size 416 kB
[22:08] <trappist> DFlame: check out mpd
[22:09] <DFlame> cheers :)
[22:09] <DFlame> I'll have a gander
[22:09] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: /home/user/Desktop /home/user/Documents /home/user/Music etc that's XDG
[22:09] <DaSkreech> Desktop is one of them
[22:09] <DaSkreech> Even though KDE4 doesn't even use that any more
[22:10] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, , that all came with kde 3.5.9 upgrade
[22:10]  * DaSkreech gets his goose
[22:10] <Daisuke_Ido> o_O
[22:10] <Daisuke_Ido> 3.5.9 is out?
[22:11] <BluesKaj> yup
[22:11] <twosouls82> Daisuke_Ido: it's in the topic
[22:11] <BluesKaj> yesterday , Daisuke_Ido
[22:11] <Daisuke_Ido> twosouls82: i rarely see the topic, but thanks SO much
[22:11] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[22:11] <Daisuke_Ido> i might check it out
[22:11]  * BluesKaj deleted all those folders ,cuz din't need 'em
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> la vie boheme!
[22:12] <BluesKaj> except for the annoying documents folder in ' system menu '
[22:13] <cry> hi =)
[22:13] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, things are considerably slower with this so called upgrade :{
[22:13] <wad> Hi, folks. I have a moment now to try and fix my sound woes. First step seems to be to figure out what hardware I actually have on this laptop. I don't know where to look, however. Help?
[22:14] <cry> гы епть
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: then i don't feel bad for not using kde anymore
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !en | cry
[22:14] <ubotu> cry: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:14] <BluesKaj> wad , lspci , look for audio controller in the list
[22:15] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_   xfce ?
[22:15] <Daisuke_Ido> gnome
[22:15] <BluesKaj> then yer on ubuntu...what are ya doing here ? :)
[22:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i like you guys :D
[22:16] <wad> BluesKaj, thanks!
[22:17] <BluesKaj> wad, then , k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,click apply
[22:17] <orbitize> How can I get KDM to start automatically? When I power up, I first have to log in, then run 'sudo kdm'
[22:18] <ThomasD> hmm, my laptop wont play mkv files, kaffeine nor vlc and I got libmatroska installed
[22:18] <twosouls82> orbitize: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm", I guess it will configure start up links for you
[22:18] <DaSkreech> !ru
[22:18] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[22:19] <Arwen> ThomasD, what happens?
[22:19] <orbitize> twosouls82: I have tried that, but it doesnt seem to help
[22:19]  * DaSkreech hugs Daisuke_Ido
[22:19] <ThomasD> Arwen: in kaffeine I get a blue sceen and only sound, vlc crashes
[22:19] <BluesKaj> wad, after setting ALSA , then :  in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key', then set the volume ctrls to 71
[22:19] <wad> BluesKaj, Thanks!
[22:19] <jeffy124> hi all. i'm configuring guarddog right now, and it says that a protocol with a blank checkbox means it is blocked. but a checkbox with a cross means the protocol is rejected. what is the difference between blocked and rejected?
[22:20]  * wad snags all this for future reference
[22:20] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: Why the move?
[22:20] <Arwen> ThomasD, error log please...
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> as much as i do like kde, gnome is just better integrated
[22:20] <Arwen> and try MPlayer (self-compiled edition)
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> however, it's not quite as configurable, this is true
[22:21] <ThomasD> Arwen: hmm I see
[22:21] <ThomasD> [00000314] ffmpeg decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)
[22:21] <Arwen> is it?
[22:21] <ThomasD> dual core 1.93 Ghz
[22:22] <Arwen> ok, hmm...
[22:22] <Arwen> can you upload a sample of the file?
[22:22] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: How is it better integrated?
[22:22] <ThomasD> Arwen: its 4.6 Gb
[22:22] <Beren78> !no
[22:22] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[22:22] <Arwen> if it's Matroska, the first 10MB or some will do
[22:22] <Arwen> ThomasD,
[22:22] <twosouls82> orbitize: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=586338
[22:22] <ThomasD> Arwen: and I'm to lazy to mencode it
[22:22] <twosouls82> the fix might be there
[22:23] <Arwen> ThomasD, just upload the first 10-20MB
[22:23] <Arwen> no encoding required
[22:23] <orbitize> twosouls82: Thank you, I will have a look!
[22:23] <BluesKaj> ThomasD, perhaps the cpu stepping speed is in effect ...had the same problem , I disabled powernowd (actually I think I removed it )
[22:23] <ThomasD> BluesKaj: okay, gonna kill it now ^^
[22:24] <BluesKaj> ThomasD, cpu scaling is a gfood idea if it works but it seems broken in feisty and gutsy
[22:24] <Arwen> ok, just go ahead and ignore me then...
[22:24] <ThomasD> thomas@linuxbook:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[22:24] <ThomasD>  * Stopping powernowd:                                           [ OK ]
[22:24] <ThomasD> thomas@linuxbook:~$
[22:24] <emilsedgh> is there any recover tool for deleted files?
[22:24] <ThomasD> ok lets hope this worked
[22:24] <emilsedgh> for ext3?
[22:25] <Arwen> emilsedgh, no orthodox ones, consult a data recovery service
[22:25] <ThomasD> BluesKaj: still not workin, but I'm gonna try on my desktop later on, I'll try to figure it out then
[22:25] <ThomasD> thanx Arwen BluesKaj
[22:26] <jeffy124> i'm configuring guarddog right now, and it says that a protocol with a blank checkbox means it is blocked. but a checkbox with a cross means the protocol is rejected. what is the difference between blocked and rejected?
[22:26] <jeffy124> one is silently drop, and the other sends an error... right?
[22:27] <rysiek|pl> guys, who wants a good laugh
[22:27] <twosouls82> jeffy124: depends on the settings you set on the "Logging" tab
[22:27] <wad> BluesKaj, I found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:27] <rysiek|pl> well, hold on to yer chairs... http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/hero/ ;)
[22:27] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: SCO lawyers
[22:27] <emilsedgh> pf
[22:28] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: M$'s "Source Force" beats them all
[22:28] <Arwen> lol
[22:28] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: "SQL Server Gal" just cracks me up
[22:28] <Arwen> os-tan ripoff >_>
[22:29] <Arwen> and I detect some Comic Sans MS on that page
[22:29] <Black_Monkey> hi, grub's taking ages to boot for me - it shows "Grub loading stage 1.5" for about 30 seconds, then "Grub loading please wait" for another 30, without really doing anything
[22:29] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: Does it eventually boot?
[22:29] <rickest> I detect an entire marketing department that needs to be fired
[22:30] <Black_Monkey> jhutchins_lt: yeah, boots after that
[22:30] <Black_Monkey> but it's just a long time for grub to take...
[22:30] <jhutchins_lt> I think the first thing I'd do is check the disk.
[22:30] <rysiek|pl> rickest: o rly? ;)
[22:30] <jhutchins_lt> sudo shutdown -rF now
[22:31] <Black_Monkey> I've always had this problem, with Fedora and then after wiping the disk to install Ubuntu
[22:31] <rickest> rysiek|pl: that's just me  :)
[22:31] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: What was on it before?
[22:32] <rysiek|pl> rickest: I detect an entire management that needs to be fired... preferably without the chairs, so that nobody gets hurt ;)
[22:32] <Black_Monkey> jhutchins_lt: FC5, then Kubuntu 6.06
[22:32] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: problem with all of them?
[22:32] <Black_Monkey> yeah
[22:32] <rickest> rysiek|pl: safety first. remove chairs, distribute pink slips. I like it
[22:32] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: Have you tried lilo instead of grub?
[22:32] <RogueJediX> Is there a guide for sharing samba shares on kubuntu to windows anywhere?
[22:33] <Black_Monkey> jhutchins_lt: no, would it be tricky to install lilo?
[22:33] <rysiek|pl> rickest: yup. and if "SQL Server Gal" is around, just watch for those SQL Injections...
[22:33] <rysiek|pl> play safe, kids ;)
[22:33] <rickest> RogueJediX: google for 'ubuntu swat', that might be a good starter
[22:33] <RogueJediX> Cheers, rickest
[22:33] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: Should be pretty much apt-get install lilo, check /etc/lilo.conf, run lilo, reboot.
[22:34] <Black_Monkey> ok
[22:35] <rysiek|pl> Black_Monkey: plus, liloconf (or something similar, don't remember right now)
[22:35] <jhutchins_lt> My guess would be that there's something wrong in hardware, and/or the BIOS is having trouble initializing the drive.
[22:35] <rysiek|pl> Black_Monkey: upon installing lilo you'll get the info on-screen
[22:35] <jhutchins_lt> rysiek|pl: That's probably a conf generator.  apt should generate a workable file, I'm not sure.
[22:36] <Black_Monkey> the only lilo.conf file is /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/lilo.conf
[22:36] <Black_Monkey> I don't see any info after installing
[22:36] <Daisuke_Ido> RogueJediX: you're better off installing SFU on the windows side and using NFS, far more reliable in my experience :)
[22:39] <keto> en español?
[22:40] <rysiek|pl> !es | keto
[22:40] <ubotu> keto: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:40] <Arwen> hey cool, ext4 will support defragging
[22:41] <rysiek|pl> Arwen: huh? afaik ext3 "supports" defragging, but it's simply not needed
[22:41] <Arwen> err... not needed my ass
[22:41] <Arwen> and ext4 will support in that it will come with an actual defragger
[22:41] <miladen> How do i uninstall wine apps?
[22:41] <Arwen> miladen, run the uninstaller
[22:43] <RogueJediX> Daisuke_Ido: What's SFU? And yeah, Samba is a total pain
[22:44] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: Sorry.  Ok, there may be a util called liloconf that generates one, try that.
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> RogueJediX: Services for Unix
[22:44] <jhutchins_lt> dpkg -configure lilo?
[22:44] <keto> en español
[22:45] <Black_Monkey> dpkg-configure: command not found
[22:45] <jhutchins_lt> Actually, I've run samba for years, I support a small office that replaced their NT server with Gentoo/samba.
[22:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | keto
[22:45] <ubotu> keto: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:45] <Black_Monkey> there's a "lilo-conf" package, puts configuration in kcontrol
[22:46] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: That's pretty good.
[22:47] <Xbehave> compiz seams to be breaking suspend resume is this a known issue? im on intel drivers
[22:47] <jhutchins_lt> With samba, it helps a lot to use Squid to configure it.
[22:47] <jhutchins_lt> Squid has links for each config command that jump to the relevant portion of the docs.
[22:48] <jeffy84963> yay, IRC is now allowed through my firewall :-)
[22:48] <jeffy84963> bye
[22:49] <jhutchins_lt> Xbehave: compiz breaking just about anything is pretty much a known issue, but you might find help in #compiz.
[22:49] <Black_Monkey> jhutchins_lt: so is there anything I'd need to change in that?
[22:50] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: I couldn't be sure, I could look at the file it generates.
[22:50] <jhutchins_lt> !paste
[22:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:50] <Xbehave> lol thx
[22:50] <Black_Monkey> :-S it won't let me access lilo.conf...
[22:51] <Black_Monkey> oh, nvm
[22:51] <Black_Monkey> jhutchins_lt: http://pastebin.ca/911805
[22:52] <epland> When i try to run adept i get database error; "Another process is using the packaging system database" but i have closed all other programs, someone know how to fix it?
[22:53] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | epland
[22:53] <ubotu> epland: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:53] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: Ok, did it run lilo?
[22:53] <epland> ok
[22:53] <jhutchins_lt> I've got to go feed horses.  To be sure, you can sudo lilo, then just reboot.
[22:53] <jhutchins_lt> Black_Monkey: I'd consider removing some of the extra kernels too.
[22:54] <Black_Monkey> ok, thanks
[22:54] <jhutchins_lt> gtg, bye.
[22:54] <Black_Monkey> anything below 2.6.22?
[22:55] <wad> BluesKaj, Okay, so that helped.
[22:55] <wad> BluesKaj, I can control my sound with the alsamixer
[22:55] <miladen> How do i run a .sh file?
[22:55] <wad> KMix is broken, though. Does yours work?
[22:55] <rickest> miladen: sh name-of-file.sh
[22:56] <rickest> miladen: or 'chmod +x name-of-file.sh' then './name-of-file.sh'
[22:56] <hydrogen> better to run it with bash
[22:56] <hydrogen> as a lot of scripts make silly assumptions that thats really what you mean
[22:57] <rickest> dash anyone? :)
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> why the change to dash anyway?
[22:58] <rickest> Daisuke_Ido: it's much faster for many tasks
[22:58] <Daisuke_Ido> is there something inherently wrong with bash?
[22:58] <twosouls82> dash is for system scripts, it is faster.. bash is for user scripts.. because most authors of those use Bash specific functions
[22:59] <Daisuke_Ido> twosouls82: capt. obvious?
[22:59] <Daisuke_Ido> bash is for user scripts because users use bash.  groundbreaking stuff, that :)
[23:00] <rickest> [15:58:20]      rickest | Daisuke_Ido: it's much faster for many tasks
[23:00] <rickest> [15:58:33]  Daisuke_Ido | is there something inherently wrong with bash?
[23:00] <rickest> I'm guessing he thought you needed a simplified answer
[23:00] <Daisuke_Ido> rickest: so...  there's nothing *wrong* with bash.
[23:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i was typing that before you answered :)
[23:00] <rickest> Daisuke_Ido: no, although some define 'slow' as 'wrong'. depends I suppose
[23:01] <rickest> ;-)
[23:01] <Daisuke_Ido> just wondering if the broken installer scripts (lokigames, i'm looking at you) that require bash are worth the improvement acquired in dash
[23:01] <rickest> Daisuke_Ido: bash has a TON of incredibly useful functionality which most *basic* scripts simply don't need. that's what the whole dash/bash thing is about
[23:01] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[23:01] <bobdole102> My KDE system is eating resources off my computer. I'm running a 2.8 ghz machine with 2 gigs of ram and I can barely stay afloat. Help, please.
[23:02] <rickest> point being all that useful functionality costs dearly in terms of startup time, etc.
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> bobdole102 » uhh what does "free -m" say?
[23:03] <bobdole102> nosrednaekim: used: 690, free: 1337
[23:03] <rickest> Daisuke_Ido: regardless of that, it's practically undebatable that if a script NEEDS bash, it should be '#!/bin/bash' not '#!/bin/sh'
[23:03] <bobdole102> That's for memory
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> bobdole102 » thats hardly "sinking"
[23:04] <Daisuke_Ido> rickest: i agree
[23:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i guess it's like the kde 4.0 release in a way
[23:04] <bobdole102> It seems not, but the memory usage on ksysguard is horrible. It's up in the high two millions. My buds computer running t he exact same system and software isn't topping 500000
[23:04] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, things are going to be broken, but it has to be done at some point.
[23:04] <Bauldrick> can i get a static ip with knetworkmanager wpa2
[23:04] <rickest> Daisuke_Ido: whether or not moving *buntu to dash to force that issue is yet another valid debate :)
[23:05] <dZen|n|> I have trouble with wine, can I update it so i can use xp programs, right now it's only win2000 support on it?
[23:05] <hydrogen> rickest: well, it shouldn't be #!/bin/bash... as bash is not guaranteed to be in the bin directory
[23:05] <Daisuke_Ido> dZen|n|: uh...  what?
[23:05] <JohnFlux> bobdole102: what program is using all the memory?
[23:05] <JohnFlux> bobdole102: according to ksysguard
[23:05] <Daisuke_Ido> since when does wine only support win2k?  maybe 4 years ago
[23:05] <rickest> hydrogen: I disagree. if it uses bash features, it MUST be '#!/bin/bash' meaning bash is a dependency of that script
[23:05] <bobdole102> kiohttp is running 5 instances of itself with 20000 used each
[23:05] <hydrogen> dZen|n|: run wineconfig
[23:05] <hydrogen> rickest: no no no, you completely missed my point
[23:06] <hydrogen> bash is _not_ required to be located at /bin/bash
[23:06] <hydrogen> sh is required to be at /bin/sh
[23:06] <dZen|n|> Daisuke_Ido: wine only supports win2000, I try to install voipbuster and is only supported on xp and vista
[23:06] <rickest> hydrogen: ahh, yes
[23:06] <hydrogen> bash can just as easily (and rightly) be installed in /usr/bin
[23:06] <Daisuke_Ido> dZen|n|: so go into winecfg
[23:06] <Daisuke_Ido> and click the little dropdown that says windows 2000
[23:06] <rickest> hydrogen: well there is that 'env' syntax that should do it
[23:06] <Daisuke_Ido> and change it to xp!
[23:06] <BluesKaj> wad, sorry i was having some dinner open kmix and enable Master & PCM on the output tab , then CD & IEC playback (if listed) in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 (if IEC958 is listed) are enabled in the Switches tab , then click on Settings/Configure Kmix and apply
[23:06] <twosouls82> hydrogen: is env always at "/usr/bin/env" ?
[23:07] <rickest> twosouls82: hehe, that's the next logical question
[23:07] <twosouls82> "#/usr/bin/env bash" would work in that case
[23:07] <hydrogen> twosouls82:  I think so.. except for when env is network shared and perhaps not availible.. (but that should only occur during bootup when using scripts that depend on whatever /bin/sh is
[23:08] <rickest> twosouls82: apparently that's more portable than #!/bin/bash but, naturally, it's still not foolproof
[23:08] <twosouls82> it was just a though
[23:08] <twosouls82> +t
[23:09] <Daisuke_Ido> dZen|n|: not to mention, that brings up a problem with the way windows programs are written - if it runs on XP, there's almost no reason (barring some games) that it shouldn't run on 2k.  so...  that's also partly the software author's stupidity for putting in an artificial version limitation
[23:09] <bobdole102> JohnFlux: I also can't seem to kill the kiohttp processes without them restarting
[23:09] <Daisuke_Ido> bobdole102: are you using konqueror as your browser?
[23:09] <JohnFlux> bobdole102: close konqueror maybe?
[23:09] <miladen> i just installed crossover but i have no idea how to start it? i dont know where it is
[23:09] <Daisuke_Ido> oiy
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> miladen: did you buy it?
[23:10] <miladen> yea
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> because if you did you got ripped off
[23:10] <miladen> why?
[23:10] <bobdole102> JohnFlux and Daisuke_Ido: Konquerer isn't running
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> wine will do the same thing just fien
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> fine*
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> what are you trying to run
[23:10] <miladen> no its because i have an app wine cant run
[23:10] <miladen> Portrait Professional
[23:10] <dZen|n|> Daisuke_Ido: ok
[23:11] <dZen|n|> when I run wineconfig it tells me that wine isn't installed :p
[23:11] <dZen|n|> But it is
[23:11] <hydrogen> try asking in #kcrossover miladen ?
[23:11] <Daisuke_Ido> winecfg, not wineconfig
[23:12] <miladen> #kcrossover
[23:12] <miladen> oops
[23:12] <twosouls82> nice mistake :)
[23:12] <miladen> hehe
[23:12] <miladen> sorry
[23:16] <miladen> YES!
[23:16] <miladen> crossover did the trick even though wine couldnt do it :D
[23:16] <miladen> but i still know wine is nicer ;)
[23:18] <tcm> Daisuke_Ido: What hardware did you get for your dell 1420N?
[23:25]  * BluesKaj watches for total moon eclipse from the window by my desk ...well in about 2 1/2 hrs  :)
[23:25] <Flare183> BluesKaj: yeah me too
[23:25] <BluesKaj> cool eh , Flare183
[23:26] <Flare183> BluesKaj: yeah you in eastern standard time?
[23:26] <BluesKaj> yup
[23:26]  * nosrednaekim whispers that its called a "Lunar eclipse" and ducks
[23:26] <Flare183> same here
[23:26] <karthikp> So, when does it start, again?
[23:26] <|Ange|us|> guys
[23:27] <Flare183> |Ange|us|: yes?
[23:27] <Flare183> crap
[23:27] <Flare183> g2g bbl
[23:27] <|Ange|us|> i want to make a script which runs ffmpeg -i origin.mp3 -ac 1 -ab 12 -ar 8000 destination.amr , but uses kdialog to input origina.mp3 and destination.amr
[23:27] <|Ange|us|> any help?
[23:27]  * karthikp googles for when the eclipse starts...
[23:27]  * BluesKaj assumes nosrednaekim talks the lune when referring to the moon ...like a full lune , not a full moon  , or a blue lune  :)
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj » lol
[23:28] <BluesKaj> 8:43 EST
[23:29] <karthikp> Cool.
[23:29] <karthikp> Lunar eclipses are slower than solar ones, generally.
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> its cloudy here.... and snowing
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, it's going to be visible all night
[23:30] <karthikp> So, I supose checking up around ten would be nice (Eastern).
[23:30] <karthikp> http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/lunar.html
[23:30] <BluesKaj> yeah Flare183, nosrednaekim , very cold & clear evening here in Ontario , so the eclipse should be quite a sight
[23:31] <BluesKaj> karthikp, yeah ,that'll be the full eclipse , 10pm
[23:31] <Flare183> yeah
[23:31] <Flare183> i'm eating supper
[23:31] <Dr_willis> We was supposed to get 1 inch of snow here.. got about 5
[23:34] <BluesKaj> snowing in kentucky eh ...that jet stream still dipping down
[23:37] <ForzaPalermo> anyone have any idea how to get port 5900 to work with x11vnc instead of 5901, it used to work, but now its display 0, port 5901
[23:37] <ForzaPalermo> i would like to kill that pid so to speak
[23:37] <BluesKaj> ForzaPalermo, router ?
[23:38] <ForzaPalermo> BluesKaj, yes have one, and have everything set for port 5900
[23:38] <ForzaPalermo> now x11vnc uses port 5901 display :1
[23:39] <ForzaPalermo> i think there i s away to kill dispaly 0 to use it again?
[23:39] <BluesKaj> port forward TCP port 5901 in port mapping on your router settings page, if you have access
[23:40] <ForzaPalermo> i do, but i dont want 5901
[23:40] <ForzaPalermo> i want it to be 5900
[23:40] <Dragnslcr> Unless you've specified x11vnc to use display :0, it's probably starting a new display
[23:40] <ForzaPalermo> Dragnslcr, right
[23:40] <michael> Hey all, konqueror is crashing my session, how do i go about filing a bug report?
[23:40] <Dragnslcr> You might also have something else already listening on port 5900
[23:40] <ForzaPalermo> but i want  it back to display :0 , not display :1
[23:40] <ForzaPalermo> how can i kill whats listning on port 5900
[23:41] <Daisuke_Ido> let's see, it's using one port up and one display up...  is it already running?
[23:41] <Dragnslcr> sudo netstat -ltp
[23:41] <Dragnslcr> See if something is already using 5900
[23:42] <michael> as soon as i go to "view" then "most often visited" i see a menu, full width, blank, then, session crashes. anyone know? i'm using kubuntu 7.10, kde 3.5.9
[23:42] <BluesKaj> maybe there's 2 instances of x11vnc running
[23:42] <ForzaPalermo> tcp 6 - sshd
[23:43] <ForzaPalermo> ssh?
[23:43] <ForzaPalermo> can it be that
[23:43] <ForzaPalermo> i tried configuring a ssh tunnel along time ago to no avail
[23:43] <Dragnslcr> Could be, if you tried setting up a tunnel for VNC
[23:44] <ForzaPalermo> do i uninstall ssh?
[23:44] <ForzaPalermo> or can i stop it from using that port
[23:44] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to just kill the process
[23:45] <ForzaPalermo> lol
[23:45] <ForzaPalermo> that did it
[23:46] <root-----> is there any app (else than screen saver) that can be run as system service and locks screen and a password has to be given to unlock. (not the user pwd)?
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> thanks guys, i guess i should uninstall openssh
[23:46] <ForzaPalermo> and all that stuff since i couldnt get it to work
[23:48] <tcm_> root-----: search for xlock
[23:48] <root-----> tcm_ ya. i have it but it asks for the current user s pwd
[23:49] <root-----> tcm_ i have xlockmore
[23:49] <tcm_> root-----: what do you want it to do?
[23:52] <root-----> tcm_ http://pastebin.com/m4a948402   3.
[23:59] <BluesKaj> TV with wifey ..BBL to watch eclipse :)