| donsmouse | info | 04:15 |
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| yao_ziyuan | if a linux distro aims to conquer the world's desktop, | 07:53 |
| yao_ziyuan | it must appeal to app developers | 07:53 |
| yao_ziyuan | and the best to that, | 07:53 |
| yao_ziyuan | is to support cross-platform open-source RAD tools like Lazarus and Code::Blocks | 07:54 |
| jenda | Mike_Feravolo: I always read when my name is mentioned :) | 12:57 |
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| DPic | nobody's added anything to the meeting agenda | 21:50 |
| desertc | Where's the meeting agenda? | 21:54 |
| desertc | Let's get the link in the channel topic | 21:54 |
| DPic | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-02-27 | 21:55 |
| DPic | i think the channel topic is too long | 21:59 |
| desertc | IMHO, a meeting to get the group organized is way more important than anythhing in the /topic right now. | 22:04 |
| desertc | *announcing a meeting | 22:04 |
| DPic | yeah | 22:05 |
| DPic | the message i sent to the lists didn't evoke much of a response | 22:06 |
| DPic | list* | 22:06 |
| desertc | Hey, tell me what you think of this poster I am putting together | 22:11 |
| DPic | it looks good | 22:13 |
| DPic | can i play around with the source document? | 22:14 |
| desertc | :) That is the source document. | 22:14 |
| desertc | It's Sans font | 22:14 |
| DPic | okay what do i use to mess around with jpegs? | 22:15 |
| DPic | i'm used to working with pdf's in openoffice | 22:15 |
| desertc | I am just using GIMP | 22:15 |
| DPic | alright | 22:15 |
| DPic | i think it's good | 22:17 |
| DPic | but you should provide a few starting point. you mention firefox and ubuntu but you should actually direct them somewhere | 22:17 |
| desertc | call to action - good point | 22:18 |
| DPic | who are the ops for this channel? | 22:27 |
| desertc | Well, Jenda, for one | 22:44 |
| desertc | You could go to #ubuntu-ops and see who is running things at this moment, also. | 22:45 |
| DPic | what do you think we should talk about at the upcoming meeting? | 22:46 |
| desertc | I was just chatting with persia who game me a brilliant idea: Put a fake advertisement on employment bulletin boards with instructions to go to the a open source contribution website. :) | 22:56 |
| desertc | Not sure that we want developers who can't find work in today's job market, but worth considering for the future if there is a recession like everyone predicts. | 22:57 |
| desertc | DPic: Well, I hope that fellow maco comes to the meeting, who had all the ideas before. | 22:58 |
| DPic | yeah | 22:58 |
| desertc | He was sure telling everyone what is what -- yet I've never seen him in here before. | 22:58 |
| DPic | what do you think of this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConvertFriends | 22:59 |
| DPic | i just threw it together | 22:59 |
| desertc | All the power to him if he wants to get this organized, but he'll have to do more than pop in for a couple minutes on one day. | 22:59 |
| desertc | Not sure if the word "convert" is the one you want. ;) | 22:59 |
| desertc | You may want to include this graphic. I have permission from the author to use it. | 23:01 |
| desertc | http://www.linuxgamingworld.com/?q=node/194 | 23:01 |
| desertc | The words "convert" and "target" sound hostile. It might sound better with "enlighten" and "uniformed" | 23:03 |
| desertc | But you have some good information in there, nice work! | 23:03 |
| desertc | I personally find that showing off what it can do will get them interested more than an explanation of Free Software. | 23:05 |
| DPic | that's why knowing the person and their interests is important | 23:05 |
| DPic | no matter what you have to decide what's appropraite | 23:06 |
| DPic | that page is from like three different articles i've read | 23:06 |
| desertc | You say not to be preachy in one part, and then you say to start by explaining Free Software in a later part. Seems to contradict. | 23:06 |
| desertc | I would also add, "Don't promise the Moon." Too often people will say using Ubuntu will make your computer do everything including wash the dishes. As soon as a person gets disappointed with one failing, then it's back to Windows for them. | 23:08 |
| desertc | I would omit all the "explain free software" references, actually. It's usually a waste of breath. They are so wrapped up in a closed-system, that they can't understand the situation. I like to say, "Come for the cost, stay for the freedom." | 23:10 |
| desertc | People are more able to understand Free Software once they are using it. | 23:10 |
| desertc | s/Some people don't understand how free software is better/ Some people cannot understand how free software is better/ | 23:12 |
| desertc | Uh, still there? | 23:13 |
| DPic | sorry about that | 23:18 |
| DPic | i'm back | 23:19 |
| DPic | i haven't had a problem explaining the basic concepts of free software to anyone | 23:20 |
| DPic | and it can be explained without being too preachy | 23:20 |
| DPic | i think the only people who are incapable are understanding it are probably the technopobes | 23:20 |
| desertc | Well, I still think you mean cannot and not don't -- because if they simply don't understand then they will figure it out once you tell them. | 23:21 |
| desertc | I do know many people who simply cannot bring themselves to understand issues involving freedom. I think it's due to the television conditioning. | 23:22 |
| DPic | yeah | 23:25 |
| DPic | alright i have to go rightn ow though | 23:25 |
| desertc | cya! | 23:27 |
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