[00:01] !alien [00:01] RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous) [00:02] * ompaul thinks about telling nrrd we won't be adding that [00:03] >nrrd< I don't see that factoid being altered any time soon [00:23] Do we have a guideline that links from factoids should point towards wiki.ubuntu.com or other Ubuntu sources? [00:24] jdong: no [00:25] jdong: however if there *is* something on the wiki, i'd say it's to be much preferred over third-party links... [00:26] at the end of the day, we don't need a guideline for that, because it's up to us to decide anyway :) [00:26] and i don't see how giving a non-ubuntu link for something that's recommanded against could help anyone so [00:29] Well all I've got to say is its a good thing jdong doesn't have editors access. [00:30] %addeditor jdong [00:30] :) [00:35] * jdong looks at scrollback in fear [00:35] that's not a real bot command, is it? [00:35] jdong: nah it isn't. are you scared about getting bot access? [00:36] LjL: very :) [00:36] ubotu: addeditor jdong [00:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about addeditor jdong - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:36] @addeditor jdong [00:36] seems like i don't know the correct syntax anyway :) [00:36] ah wait, i do, you're just not even registered to the bot [00:37] haha :) [01:07] Lordy I'm slow without my scripts... [01:08] * LjL refrain from making unwarranted comments [01:09] * anthony is killing time in class - using IrssiX on a Mac [01:13] anthony: why not just use irssi? [01:15] mneptok: Because I found the prebuilt irssix first. I just installed the GNU coreutils a few minutes ago though, so I could. Still, my op script is at home. [01:15] anthony: psssh [01:15] no need for gnu coreutils [01:15] irssi compiles just fine with Xcode [01:16] nalioth: how do you live with BSD utils? :) [01:16] nalioth: Well, okay - I actually installed the coreutils for shred, but to do so had to first install Xcode, which I also did today. [01:16] macports/fink coreutils from ground up is the way to go :) [01:17] jdong: he enjoys a less bloated life? [01:17] anthony: MacPorts is what you want. [01:17] LjL: he wouldn't be using OS X [01:17] LjL: any OS where the instant messaging client is 60MB.... [01:17] anyway I'm digressing :) [01:18] jdong: well it's faster than Ubuntu most of the time, if nothing else. [01:19] jdong: I don't use OS X by choice - state-owned laptop. I have Ubuntu, Fedora, and Solaris is VMware though (which, btw, isn't very stable) [01:19] LjL: it's faster when everything is migrated into cache [01:19] LjL: on first startup, priming all my default apps is a nightmare [01:20] anthony: I'm just joking man, I am the proud owner of a macbook, on which I am typing right now :) [01:20] * mneptok whispers "HFS+" [01:20] *shudder* [01:20] *in [01:29] In #ubuntu, spudratic0 said: ubotu what is the main chat room to talk to other ubuntu users [01:31] !offtopic > spudratic0 [01:37] mneptok: attempting to install macports... [01:38] * nalioth dons the crash clothing and buckles his 5-point safety harness [01:39] I went through the installer doohickey, and it looked successful, but I still don't have the 'port' command [01:40] anthony: /opt/local/bin/port perhaps? [01:41] did you add /opt/* to your almighty $PATH, anthony ? [01:41] jdong: Yeah - wonder why it didn't update the path [01:41] nalioth: No - I thought it would be done automatically [01:41] anthony: well probably it thinks it shouldn't touch ~/.bashrc or .profile or whatever [01:43] sigh - someone remind me how to add to the path [01:43] my syntax is being misremembered [01:43] anthony: simple. look at the $PATH you've got now and monkey-see-monkey-do [01:44] nalioth: I know how it should end up - it's variable assignment I'm forgetting [01:44] export var=val [01:44] * anthony needs to get some sleep [01:44] ty [01:52] In #ubuntu, jjt009 said: ubotu:how is it going? [01:52] ubotu tell jjt009 about yourself [02:03] "I was born in a small village in Wallachia, where my father worked herding Jews ..." [02:03] (This Borat moment brought to you by caffiene and a daunting Inbox) [02:03] haha [03:17] In #ubuntu-offtopic, recon said: !no, SYN is ACK [07:09] !no SYN is FIN... FIN!!!... GO AWAY!!! FIN. [07:09] I'll remember that Seveas [07:09] fin <3 [07:10] ??? [07:15] * tonyyarusso is equally confused Madpilot [07:16] SYN Tm_T [07:21] I just added to my in house CV the entry on having been TV SMS chat moderator. Funny [07:21] I can't believe what kind of jobs I've had :-D [07:21] hilarious [07:25] Myrtti: hahahahah, thats funny [07:26] Myrtti: you mean like on the late night chat? [07:26] indeedy [07:26] hehe [07:26] funny as sack full of monkeys [07:27] Myrtti: you know any software(linux) people looking for a job? company I work for... [07:27] is your company member of COSS? [07:28] have you sent email to flug-avoin-tiedotus@flug.fi [07:28] COSS? [07:28] www.coss.fi [07:30] jussi01: well, work, sure, if, uhm... [07:30] Wow, didnt know that existed. Ill mention it to the boss as soon as he gets in [07:30] heh [07:30] Tm_T: its in Oulu ;) [07:31] no, I'm not moving, sowwy [07:32] Myrtti: I have the feeling that its not an _urgent we needed you like yesterday_ position, but a "when the right person comes.../someone in the company has a friend who has the right quals" position [08:17] hmmm, maybe we want to drop the !kudos factoid? [08:18] !kudos [08:18] http://kudos.berlios.de is an extremely extensive and comprehensive guide for Kubuntu *Breezy*. Note some things will be different on dapper. [08:18] ehehhheh [08:21] jussi01: sure? [08:21] Tm_T: I dont have bot rights... [08:21] %login [08:22] ubotu: forget kudos [08:22] In #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubotu: forget kudos [08:22] bah [08:22] ubotu: forget kudos [08:22] I'll forget that, Tm_T [08:22] :) [08:22] thanks [08:34] In #ubuntuforums-beginners, speeddemon8803 said: Ubotu, caring is sharing [08:35] cancel that factoid please :) [08:35] speeddemon8803: no need to cancel, it doesn't go anywhere ;) [08:36] you saw the caring is sharing though? [08:36] yup [08:36] ok [08:36] speeddemon8803: yeah, but we need to manually add it if we want :) [08:36] and we do not [08:36] but you don't have the rights to adding factoids to the bots so it wasn't added [08:37] i knew that, was just saying dont get out the whoopin stick ;) [08:37] /me puts her pink fluffy pen of poking away [08:37] damn. [08:37] ive been dealing with ubotu for a while now, i think i know its commands and stuff by now. [08:38] Well, ciao! [08:39] * speeddemon8803 sees im using this room a lot here lately :( [08:53] dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (butuh_teman) [09:38] popey: and then you seriously wonder why people react in a rude way to such violent attitude? [09:38] GPenguin is I believe a certain patrick frank [09:39] I kickbanned him from #ubuntu-uk [09:39] popey: you make up wild guesses about my real name and take violent action based on wild assumptions while there was no need to be massive [09:39] popey: thats not just unhealthy attitude, thats abusive [09:39] raise it with the irc ops if you have an issue with me [09:40] popey: and the irony is that you claim Patrick Frank was rude because of such abuse [09:40] popey: loco stuff is handled in #ubuntu-irc now - this channel is just for #ubuntu, #kubuntu, et al and their offtopics [09:40] oh ok [09:40] popey: why would i be interested in further escalation? i follow your invite to this channel to talk to you after you banned me without any reason [09:40] GPenguin: take it to #ubuntu-irc :) [09:40] * Seeker` fully supports popey if he says that GPenguin should be banned [09:40] sorry tonyyarusso [09:40] Seeker`: very helpful to be tribal [09:41] popey: 'tis okay - I'm still getting used to it myself ;) [09:54] GPenguin: any further help we can provide for you here? [10:10] In ubotu, erUSUL said: openwith is If you want to change the default app to open a specific file type right click on a file choose properties and go to the Open With tab. [10:25] In #ubuntu-offtopic, Nrrd said: !tea is Four sugars please! [10:25] wtf? [10:26] why was mc44 klined? [10:28] good question [10:28] any way of finding out? [10:30] could it have been that kline script again? [10:30] kline script? [10:32] well that was quick :) [10:32] mc44: ? [10:32] mc44: s/ /what happened/ [10:32] dunno. yay for random k-lines [10:33] hmm, random k-lines are bad [10:34] looks like the shell server I was running on got k-lined [10:34] ewww [10:34] thats bad [10:34] ouch [10:49] 10:25:24 -!- Bassetts [i=bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has quit [K-lined] [10:49] I assumed it was an unfunny /quit msg @) [10:51] is it possible to just k-line nick@host? or does it wipe out the whole *@host? [11:19] Seeker`: I've only ever heard of it by host, but it might be possible. Usually if you earn a kline you're changing nicks to get around bans already. [11:33] hello [11:34] hi elektronik123, how can we help you today? :) [11:35] i can`t join on #ubuntu-pl [11:35] elektronik123: I think that local channels are now handled on #ubuntu-irc [11:35] i am blocked [11:37] what i can do ? [11:38] elektronik123: ask in #ubuntu-irc [11:40] ok [11:57] on 3ubuntu-irc is nothing [12:02] elektronik123: I can see you are there, and I can see quite a lot users there [12:09] stdin called the ops in #ubuntu (shaiful) [12:09] dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (shaiful) [12:09] shaiful called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:09] shaiful called the ops in #ubuntu () ? called the ops on themselveS? [12:13] Seveas - ping [12:35] eh? [12:36] Mez: He did call the ops himself:07:09:11 !op [12:37] Pici, yes, I was wondering why he was [12:37] Mez: Because they don't know any better. [12:37] Its not the first time I've seen it. [12:58] If user named elektronik321 will be bothering anyone of ubuntu ops please direct him privately to me. [13:00] pressenter: he just left about 20 minutes ago :) [13:00] Yea, Mez already told me that. [13:00] Hate that troll, should get a kline for the guy. :/ [13:01] pressenter: hard to kline netia [13:01] Yea, i know. [13:01] Half of Poland would go down. ;) [13:02] But that guy is actually an irc miracle; noone, and i do mean noone, wants him on -pl channel, but he keeps bothering all ops overthere. [13:03] Seveas, would it be worth putting the bantracker in #ubuntu-pl ? [13:06] pressenter: I think I know him personally :/ [13:07] Well, what can i say; my condolences. ;) [13:34] afternoon all === mc44_ is now known as mc44 [15:13] any staff around that can forward #kubuntu-uk to #ubuntu-uk? [15:13] jpatrick: Do you have operator status there? [15:14] Pici: no, that's why I'm asking :) [15:14] Ah. [15:16] seems to be pretty quiet in there [15:31] Pricey's having fun tho [15:32] heh [15:55] Seveas: ubotu is not talking (bug number) in #ubuntu-classroom [16:28] jpatrick: #kubuntu-uk exists? [16:28] nalioth: yep [16:28] nalioth: it is registered [16:28] hmm [16:29] The owner isnt anyone I recognize [16:29] nalioth: never heard of the person that registered it thought [16:29] * nalioth can't get to it [16:29] nalioth: why not? [16:29] Seeker`: try it [16:29] nalioth: thanks [16:29] It was earlier.. [16:30] it now forward to ubuntu-uk [16:31] +s [16:31] +if [16:31] * nalioth thinks y'all need to lay off the booze [16:34] nalioth: tea, sir? [16:35] tea? [17:04] hola [17:04] Darksiteevil, Azag, How can we help you? [17:04] miren, saben que me expulsaron de ubuntu-es, y no tengo idea por q... [17:04] this help is for azag [17:04] I was banned/expulsed of ubuntu-es with out reason [17:05] azag es en inglesh [17:05] (si/yes) [17:05] bueno te dejo azag [17:05] chao guys [17:05] (gracias/thnx) [17:05] de nada [17:05] jpatrick: around? [17:05] i go [17:06] Pici: hi [17:06] * jpatrick checks #ubuntu-es backlog [17:08] y? [17:10] Azag: por favor entra en #ubuntu-irc [17:17] solved [17:32] if I start to get annoying in the following 1 ½ hrs, feel free to kick my tiny bum from the channels [17:32] can we do it now? [17:33] hehe [17:33] noooooo [17:33] * Pici kicks Myrtti [17:33] aww you are no fun [17:33] /me enjoys rhubarb liqueur and is planning to open an excellent bottle of french cider [17:33] Oooh [17:33] English ones are crap [17:33] Sounds relaxing [17:33] not fair [17:33] Myrtti: oi, pass me some!! [17:33] sorry, but they are [17:34] /me pours jussi01 a glass [17:34] gah... graphics card playing up :( [17:34] today is Heroes day [17:34] stupid freaking ati [17:34] so I've got nice booze, pizza and cheetos [17:34] partee [17:34] Myrtti: ahh, yes... heroes [17:34] Very Heroic of you [17:35] while waiting I'm singing cheesy songs, crying a bit and cursing all the men to hell ;-) [17:35] with a wide grin [17:35] crying with a wide grin? [17:36] the tears don't end up in my mouth if I smile while crying [17:36] we Finns get too much sodium in our diet anyway [17:36] hahahaha [17:36] Myrtti: don't forget the cheese bits and some romaine lettuce to round out your salad [17:36] must be hard to coordinate [17:37] nalioth: I did have blue mold cheese-cottage cheese-ground cheese-cauliflower-spinach-mushroom casserole for lunch... [17:37] I'm a bit cheesy today [17:38] * jussi01 throws his best wallace and gromit CHEEEESE out [17:38] uuu stilton [17:39] I didn't like St. Albans, though [17:39] 6 mo matured manchego is nice, 9 is too aged [17:39] cheese > chocolate [17:40] Myrtti: You prefer french "cider" to english cider?? [17:40] I had to struggle down my Old Rosie... [17:40] La Cidrae goes down nicely [17:40] heretic! [17:41] well anyway the liquer store didn't have large bottles of stronger English cider in their shelves [17:41] so I had no choice, either French or Spanish [17:41] or Finnish oversweet junk [17:41] * nalioth just figured a nice cheese and lettuce to be complimented by the rhubarb liqueur and cider . . . [17:42] nalioth: Doesn't Cider mean something different in the US? [17:42] Seeker`: lightly fermented juice? [17:42] Apple Cider [17:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_cider [17:44] which is nowhere near as good as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cider [17:46] Myrtti: what about that mongrel swedish stuff? [17:46] blechhhhh [17:47] If I plan to get drunk to the point I can't remember afterwards what I've drank, the nordic stuff suffices [17:47] it's cheap and available [17:47] but they're not fit for anything else [18:04] Seeker`, oh yea... you're right :) [18:08] lol, the guinea pigs didn't enjoy the sound of the bottle cork opening [18:10] Myrtti: they grind their teeth? [18:10] ran away hiding in their hut and then grind their teeth [18:11] microwave solves that [18:11] * Gary hides [18:11] so human [18:12] hello Sapote, nada3, how can we help you today? [18:12] hello Myrtti! [18:13] Myrtti: nada3 has a bad ident [18:13] i not need help, only stay here [18:13] nada3: change your ident please [18:13] Sapote: why? [18:14] Myrtti: /topic... ok [18:14] bye for all [18:18] hey ompaul [18:18] that is me [18:18] ;-) [18:19] amazing [18:21] baaaahhhhhhh baaaahhhhhh sup? [18:22] why for art thou within the bounds of this forsaken place occupied by the outcasts of IRC, TheSheep? [18:23] * ompaul grins [18:23] * ompaul welcomes one but rejects all ;-) [18:24] * TheSheep bites ompaul's head off [18:24] mooo [18:24] *chew* *chew* [18:24] you cud do that [18:24] anybody have salt? [18:24] just to rub into the wound? [18:25] the puns are flying today I can tell ya [18:25] mostly nose first into the ground none the less [18:25] there is nothing like a bad pun in the evening [18:26] two in the morning? [18:26] *cough* [18:28] Intrepid Ibex . No one got it [18:29] hh ii [18:29] that I saw, anyway [18:29] how do you mean? [18:31] new release name, just announced on the devel list [18:31] yeap - but what of the "no one got it" [18:33] ompaul: that's why I added the 'that I saw, anyway' . [18:43] nickrud, I don't understand "no one got it" === Pricey is now known as PriceChild [18:59] ompaul: sorry, away from desk for a bit. No one guessed that one, that I saw I meant [19:06] Warning: beheadingpain <- some network troll as before [19:06] jpatrick: yeah, I'm waiting for him to cross the line in -offtopic [19:06] Pici: kicked from #kubuntu and #ubuntu-es by me [19:07] nalioth: think the guy deserves a kline? [19:08] jpatrick: which guy? [19:08] Hes just offtopic trolling, not being too disruptive imho. [19:09] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56772/ [19:10] /whois beheadingpain - he appears to be on several channels, possibly doing the same thing [19:13] so long as he's not violating network guidelines, it is channel issues [19:16] [!] BARBIE26 [i=sdad@host213.190-224-48.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Excess Flood] [19:16] 13:22:28 < ~ki> like a language of some sort? [19:16] ki... [19:16] that guy keeps doing that? spamming bot [19:17] Who? [19:17] "BARBIE26" [19:18] opps, he's only in #kde, sorry :) [19:18] hehe [19:19] you know, Ii is a place down the road from here.. about 40km [19:19] Ii or Ki? [19:20] Pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56773/ I assumed it was a spambot [19:20] ah, just got K-Lined [19:20] Ii [19:21] Pici: I was referring to the intrepid bex codename discussion earlier [19:28] hmmm, how do I switch servers in irssi? [19:28] alt+x [19:28] i think [19:28] jussi01: Ctrl-x? [19:30] hrm [19:38] meh, there is a user in #ubuntu with the nick gary_ and I keep getting highlighted :-| [19:39] hehe [19:40] * PriceChild pushes the k-stick away from gary [19:40] lol [19:44] lol at bug 192774 [19:44] Launchpad bug 192774 in avidemux "[FFe request] Avidemux 2.4.1" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192774 [19:46] jussi01: hehe [19:47] bug 192350 - there's a real FFe [19:47] Launchpad bug 192350 in semantik "[Feature Freeze Exception] New upstream release" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192350 [19:49] In ubotu, DRebellion said: virtualisers is There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications [19:50] virtual [19:50] !virtual [19:50] There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications [19:50] alias it? [19:50] !virtualisers [19:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualisers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [19:50] !virtualiser [19:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualiser - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [19:51] !search virt [19:51] Found: virtual machine, virtualisation, virtual desktops-#ubuntu-effects, kqemu, xinerama, xen, box*, virtualizers, vm, virtual [19:51] stupid american spellings... [19:51] I haven't changed. [19:52] !-virtualizers [19:52] virtualizers aliases: vm, virtualization, virtualizer, virtual machine, virtual, virtualisation, virtualiser, virtualisers - added by LjL on 2007-01-23 16:27:34 [19:52] Pici: mate, root-- is repeat *the same thing* on many channels now [19:58] codicealpha: Hello, how can we help you? [19:58] hi [19:58] no, thanks [19:59] codicealpha: please read the /topic [19:59] codicealpha: this channel is only for operator issues, not somewhere to just hang out it. [19:59] s/it/in [19:59] someone invite me here.. [19:59] *bwurp* [19:59] never mind.. i'll go out [20:00] thanks, have a good time [20:00] no0tic: ...^^ [20:06] !test [20:06] Failed. [20:07] Pici: you killed Seveas in the process! [20:07] yay [20:07] I mean... aww.. [20:20] Daviey called the ops in #ubuntu () [20:21] prince_jammys called the ops in #ubuntu () [20:22] nickrud: klined [20:22] nalioth: nice [20:23] nickrud: just letting you know so you can keep the banlist clean [20:28] ph0rensic called the ops in #ubuntu (prot back again) [20:28] Daviey called the ops in #ubuntu () [20:28] nalioth: 20:28:14 -!- prince_jammys [n=tantalus@h-67-101-192-18.nycmny83.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [K-lined ? [20:29] Daviey: yes, y'all are too quick for me [20:29] its almost a full moon - all of the weirdos are out [20:30] Seeker`: talk of the devil [20:31] prot klined [20:31] whoever banned him/her/it [20:31] nalioth: ok [20:32] prince been un-k-lined? [20:32] PriceChild: as soon as it happened [20:33] good good [20:35] lunar eclipse tonight [20:36] indeed [20:36] yes [20:36] I'd love to get out and see how my new camera does with it, but I'm afraid I'm going to just collapse from exhaustion instead [20:36] I'm going to try to capture it with my camera, but I don't have a telephoto lens :/ [20:37] Pici: What sort of zoom do you have? [20:37] I don't either, but I'm hoping the resolution will make up for it. [20:37] heh [20:37] I can tell you that with a 35mm film camera and a 200mm telephoto lens, with a 4x6" print, the moon comes out approximately the size of a US quarter. [20:37] Its cloudy here [20:38] Now I have a digital camera though, with 12.1 megapixels, so I might be able to toy around with blowing it up. [20:39] * Seeker` has a 10MP camera that produces decent results [20:42] It's hard though, living in a metro area of 2 or 3 million [20:43] * Seeker` lives on the edge of a city [20:43] I have a telescope that I never get to use either [21:20] nickrud, sorry was out at class [21:24] ompaul: np, as I said, I was away as well [21:59] PriceChild, kbrooks should be told (that page is not 100% accurate) wep is correct but ehhhhhhhhhh that is not ssl attacking from what I can see [21:59] PriceChild, however I could crush a grape [22:04] ubuntu-irc: check your mail [22:04] ompaul, didn't work for me [22:05] PriceChild, yeap [22:05] it is based on some false premsis [22:06] arrr how is that word spelt [22:09] premise [22:09] nalioth, LjL, elkbuntu *ping* about cloak for ubuSecurity [22:09] PriceChild: first i've heard of it [22:09] premise [22:09] who/what is ubuSecurity? [22:10] elkbuntu, see latest email to ubuntu-irc [22:10] elkbuntu: /whois ubuSecurity [22:10] elkbuntu, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2008-February/000398.html [22:11] rolleyes [22:11] ok.. looks fine to me [22:12] A bit silly though, since ubotu can do those things [22:12] * PriceChild wonders if we made a policy that cloaked bots should be operated by members [22:12] At least I think it can [22:13] PriceChild, that's unfair on people who are working hard and are valuable contributors... but just havent got around for going for member yet [22:13] indeed, isn't on the list of requirements [22:14] ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Cloaks ) [22:15] !bug 1 [22:15] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [22:15] bug #1 [22:15] For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents [22:15] bug 66 [22:15] Launchpad bug 66 in malone "+upstreamtask and +packagetask need to become context-aware" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66 [22:17] bug 666 [22:17] Launchpad bug 666 in malone "can't file a bug on Ubuntu" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666 [22:17] rofl [23:03] In ubotu, bluefoxx said: !squid is !info squid [23:06] * PriceChild wonders what the point in that is [23:06] even if it did work [23:13] PriceChild: pfft, why do you need a reason for everything :P [23:24] I just got an xbox live newletter... [23:25] and at the top is the following [23:25] "Read this issue online if you can't see the images or are using Outlook 2007" which was linkified [23:28] I think its quite ironic that they are sending out emails which their own email clients won't display properly for w/e reason. [23:30] hah