[00:00] yeah blkid matches [00:00] /dev/mapper/klx-swap_1: TYPE="swsuspend" UUID="21056f41-d2c4-456f-86ab-ffa096ee3186" [00:01] mindframe-: here's mine: [00:01] /dev/mapper/yeti-swap_1: TYPE="swap" UUID="b5b1e9d5-12a8-4779-bf38-ab852d781fce" [00:01] mindframe-: the TYPE is different [00:02] mindframe-: is yours a laptop? [00:02] yes [00:05] mindframe-: you think the swap partition is for swapping memory during suspend mode, and not a normal swap? [00:05] hrmm [00:05] i did test out suspension the other day [00:05] mindframe-: that's what the TYPE suggests [00:06] I don't have a laptop, so no experience there [00:47] hello. Ive been fighting a libnss issue with ldap, and booting properly. It seems to hang on boot, and ive already that necessary "group" files, and passwd files have necessary system users. I cant seem to get it to boot when adding nsswitch parameter with ldap in it. Any ideas? [00:47] i know there is an official bug report. But what is the work around? [00:48] Ive tried to change the S18ldap to S10ldap in rcX.d files with no luck either. [00:48] can someone help out? [01:15] hangs on kernel log daemon..when ldap is enabled. in nsswitch.conf === macd_ is now known as macd [02:09] hello [02:09] anyone able to help? [02:09] booferbill: ask your question. [02:09] And read the topic [02:09] i am getting a PANIC: CPU too old for kernel error [02:10] I am trying to put it on a DELL laptop approxamately 4 years old [02:38] booferbill: You're installing ubuntu-server in a laptop? [03:27] ScottK: when xubuntu is too heavy ;) [03:28] a 4 yr od dll cant handl [x]ubuntu? [03:29] eh now? [03:29] it's because the server kernel is optimized for i586 while the desktop edition is optimized for i386, making it available for more hardware [03:29] i586 is older than 5 years iirc [03:30] er, 4 years [03:30] sure, but seems like you only see that error with the server kernel on old hardware, where the desktop kernel works fine :-) [03:31] has ubutu made its i386 kerne i486 and over? i assume yes? [03:31] (sorry aout the splling, my links not great) [03:31] * faulkes- nods [03:32] apologies, the server kernel is i686 and desktop is i586 and i686 [03:33] I even wrote this: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/preparing-to-install.html#system-requirements [03:33] doh [03:33] must be bedtime [03:33] hehe [03:49] ScottK: so... how stable was tls in 2.2? [03:50] sommer: you realize that the compiler is emitting 486 instructions by default, yes? [03:50] * lamont finishes reading scrollback... sorry [04:01] hmmmm, qemu+ppc != like hardy install [04:01] fall down go boom [04:02] faulkes-: i saw the same thing today [04:02] faulkes-: but, moreover, ppc install isn't working for me on baremetal either [04:06] bare metal I have working [04:06] 7.04 is straight forward, 7.10 has ide issues but they are documented [04:07] well, 7.04 adds an extraneous line to yaboot.conf which causes it to fail to boot without manual intervention of the almighty key [04:09] although I think it has something to do with bochsbios as I've been looking at things in launchpad [04:10] re: qemu that is [04:10] faulkes-: ide issues, is this what you're seeing? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/189114 [04:10] Launchpad bug 189114 in linux-meta "(hardy) powerpc installer lacks ide-pmac driver" [Undecided,New] [04:11] hrmmm, no [04:11] faulkes-: can you point me to such documentation? [04:11] 7.10 was a module issue you needed to add at boot time [04:11] I'm unsure about hardy ppc [04:11] oh, right, sorry [04:11] although if hardy ppc lacks an ide-pmac driver [04:11] yeah, hardy is bust [04:12] that could be a significant issue [04:12] one might almost say a show stopper [04:12] :-) yep [04:13] howdy [04:14] what is the proper way to change the default switches for pure-ftpd? ... im using the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd script ... do i change something in the script? [04:48] lamont: IIRC I never had any problem with it. [04:51] ok [04:58] Unable to get printer status (client-error-forbidden)! [04:58] * lamont kicks cups [05:35] interesting, booting hardy into my laptop via qemu tells me it has no modules === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [07:16] faulkes-: "has no modules"? [07:21] heh, I was just thining of email you [07:21] yeah [07:22] 7.10 running kqemu booting 8.04 current [07:22] it pops up a message saying that the kernel does not match the kernel in the archive and that modules are not available [07:23] I fought with qemu+ppc -> hardy all day to no avail, I also noted I needed to upgrade the bochsbios [07:24] so I figured I would give native x86 -> native x86 a try [07:24] I got a jeos image to boot/install [07:25] but no luck with installing off an 8.04 iso (and yes I checked the iso via the tool provided) [07:25] I don't have it handy right now, but I can recreate it tomorrow at some point and take some screenshots for you if you'd like [07:28] I also went through a good portion of the LP based bug reports looking for solutions [07:29] faulkes-: Oh, the installer is b0rken? [07:30] * faulkes- thinks that may be the case [07:33] soren: I'll gather some more information for you tomorrow, right now, tis late here and I need my beauty rest [07:34] <_ruben> late? [07:35] * _ruben isnt even awake yet ;) [08:08] moin [08:21] <[miles]> morning all [08:21] good morning [08:23] <_ruben> g'day [08:59] faulkes-: Installer was b0rken. Should be fixed real soon now. === chuyen is now known as lyn4 === lyn4 is now known as chuyen [09:29] I've got Ubuntu 7.10 set up on a VPS. I'd like to see if I can optimize the system a bit since we're limited to 256MB RAM. any tools you might recommend for this task? [09:33] <`6og> 'optomise'? how? [09:35] <`6og> brb. switching computers [09:35] back === kgoetz_ is now known as kgoetz [09:36] well, see if there is any process that is hogging more memory than neccessary for example [09:37] I've disabled innoDB i MySQL, for instance [09:37] that took away about 100MB [09:37] at least according to the docs [09:39] so your trying to minimise memory useage? if your after making certain apps more memory efficent you should probaby ask the apps irc channel [09:41] right [10:01] <[miles]> totally off topic, but this is amazing http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=4023+ [10:02] <[miles]> foolano, hola muy buenas [10:02] hi [10:23] i'm suffering a bad case of 'sysadmin house' :| [10:23] * kgoetz wonders how he's got to the stage where his networks so badly setup [10:24] kgoetz: blame the interns [10:25] faulkes-: hehe [10:34] Jeg bridger. [10:34] Whoops. [10:34] soren: thanks for the update [10:34] * faulkes- wonders why he went to bed 3 hours ago and is awake again [10:34] faulkes-: No worries :) Thanks for pointing it out. === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [12:59] <_ruben> any reason why the snmp tools arent configured with openssl support? this would enable the use of aes128 for example [12:59] licensing issues [13:02] <_ruben> cryptography export thing or something else alltogether? [13:02] Licensing. [13:03] openssl's license and the gpl are not friends. [13:03] and thats very annoying :( [13:04] <_ruben> but how come openssl itself is avail as a pkg then? [13:06] <_ruben> heh .. on my suse machines the man page only lists DES, snmpget --help shows DES/AES but AES isnt available either .. but with ubuntu --help doesnt AES, but does show in manpage but with the appropriate comment that it might not be available .. then again, doesnt show much more than ubuntu being 'better' than suse ;) [13:06] <_ruben> guess i'll just congifure my switches with des instead of aes then [13:11] _ruben: Because openssl on its own is ok, and certain things are ok to link against openssl. [13:12] _ruben: Just not plain gpl stuff. [13:49] jdstrand,foolano: ping [13:49] pong [13:49] pong [13:50] hi jdstrand ebox developers have several problems with the apparmour stuff in openldap [13:50] zul: have bugs been filed in LP? [13:50] not yet [13:51] <_ruben> soren: bugger ;) [13:51] the thing is we can't do slapcat -l /foopath cuz slapd is only allowed to write under /var/lib/ldap [13:51] slapd ships a slapd.backup script and it doesn't work due to its apparmor profile [13:52] foolano: would you mind filing a bug against openldap2.3 following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor? [13:52] no problem [13:52] foolano: we can then work to get an appropriate fix [13:52] thanks! [13:54] foolano: if the slapcat and slapd.backup are separate issues (and it sounds like they are, then they should be separate reports [13:54] ok [13:54] but it's basically the same problem [13:54] slapcat only can write in /var/lib/ldap [13:54] * jdstrand nods [13:54] so there's no way to use the slapd.backup script [13:55] it's not very difficult to workaround but... [13:55] slapd.backup as shipped should work, so that is clearly a bug [13:56] slapcat to arbitrary locations is exactly what apparmor protects from, so it will need to be thought about more (perhaps allowing write to /tmp) [13:57] yeah, slapd.backup tries to write to /var/backup/slapd [13:57] gonna file a bug [13:57] foolano: great! [15:38] appropriate tz greeting all [15:47] hello faulkes- [15:52] hey [15:52] how can i flush all routes easily? [16:00] probably best to write a shell script [16:01] iirc I don't recall route having a flush command similar to iptables [16:01] although you could also try /etc/init.d/networking stop [16:01] which *might* remove the routes [16:04] yeah...thats whats not working :P [16:06] kryptonit [16:07] bananbåt [16:07] kalson [16:07] uj [16:07] fluff [16:07] teknikstänk [16:10] ! [16:20] could someone do me a favour please? [16:20] have a look on gutsy if netcat has the -k option there [16:20] the option is unknown in dapper [16:21] netcat: invalid option -- k [16:21] nc -h for help [16:21] on dapper [16:21] root@kaya:~# netcat -k [16:21] no destination [16:21] on gutsy [16:22] I am trying to debug the boot process in hardy, but I can't seem to find the log of all the various init.d scripts... where is that? [16:23] (not dmesg, syslog, messages...) [16:27] iirc init.d scripts are not logged, other than specific service level messages, such as daemon startups [16:27] which would be in syslog/messages [16:27] faulkes-: I think I got it: you have to enable bootlogd in /etc/default [16:28] faulkes-: and it should log in /var/log/boot [16:28] I will try it now... so long.... [16:36] kraut: so you have the -l option on gutsy? [16:37] ermm... -k [16:59] hi there. Not sure if you already know this but on gutsy server, if you install php5-mysql when php5-cgi is not installed it will install apache also. if php5-cgi IS installed, it wont. [17:03] iirc that is because php5-cgi is multi-use with different httpd implementations [17:04] so it may not be appropriate to assume that apache should be installed, but that is just a inference on my part [17:17] faulkes-: i would have thought, by that statement, it should not install any webserver. [17:26] grrrr [17:28] faulkes-: I modified the survey wiki to point to an export of what is currently in LimeSurvey. Hope you like it. [17:43] * faulkes- perks up [17:43] eh now? [17:47] nijaba: explain, sorry, coffee hasn't kicked in yet [17:48] faulkes-: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Survey#preview [17:50] nijaba: ah, that makes more sense re: wiki export [17:52] thought it would be easier if people want to see the current form of the questions [17:52] * faulkes- nods [17:53] Hrmphh. No matter what I do, NIS hangs at boot, but when I log on the first time, it's on. However some boot items (i.e. autofs) have failed because of that. [17:56] zul: the ubuntu-server-bugs mailing has been created. Would you like to be a co-moderator/admin of the list ? [17:56] mathiaz: sure.. [18:18] huh? What's up (down) with ubuntuwire? [18:20] mok0: check on #ubuntu-motu [18:20] they admins usually hang out there [18:35] anyone gotten likewise-open to work with gutsy yet? [18:36] dantalizing, i cant get your version to work [18:40] I don't have a version of likewise-open [18:41] but if I did, I'm sure it would work [18:41] sorry, it wasn't you, it was a guy with a similar name [18:41] i saw your name real quick and thought it was [18:41] no probs [18:41] like dendradite or somethgin [18:42] he's working on it for hardy [18:42] im trying to get it to work with gutsy [19:49] hi guys [19:49] any one home [19:50] Hi, i have a server and 30 clients. (10 windows 20 linux.) i want to pxe boot them all (so every time its rebooted. i get same os and confgs. making linux as my server. 2. i want to make a user account (in all those 30 machines) stop or screen lock after every 30 minuts (runing apps should not be closed) the user just have to enter password again. [19:50] 3.for every such event of unlocking screen and giving pwd.(i 'guess' thats logging in?) i get stats on server.. possible? do i need any thing else. like ldap ? any suggestions? [19:51] So you want to run them as thinclients? [19:53] possible [19:54] ltsp will do linux clients [19:54] I'm not sure about windows [19:55] as for pxe booting windows, I don't even want to touch that kind of nightmare [19:56] I mean, as a base install, say for network deployments, sure, but for thinclients? [19:56] * faulkes- fears [19:57] aha [19:57] for windows you would like be better off using an ldap configuration to control login / logout timeframe [19:57] my network has disappeared from udev. how do i repair that? [19:57] no. i dont use thins [19:58] faulkes- ok [19:58] faulkes- will that be possible with ldap. to lock screen [19:58] iirc it's actually something you would setup in windows [19:59] which you could prevent disabling via admin privileges [19:59] but i need to lock down after 30 mins of usage. not like script [20:00] that may be more difficult [20:00] and apps shold not close. oppertunity should be there to resume [20:00] and I don't have any suggestions for that [20:00] hm [20:00] k [20:05] Hello. I have been fighting an ldap installation that uses libnss. It stops on boot up when encountering the kernel log daemon. I have the necesary /etc groups,passwd files and even did the soft_boot yes parameter in nsswitch to no avail. I also made the rcX boot up at S10 instead of S18. Any help would be appreciated. [20:07] achandrashekar i need an ldap help too. [20:08] Hi, i have a server and 30 clients. (10 windows 20 linux.) i want to pxe boot them all (so every time its rebooted. i get same os and confgs. making linux as my server. 2. i want to make a user account (in all those 30 machines) stop or screen lock after every 30 minuts (runing apps should not be closed) the user just have to enter password again. [20:08] 3.for every such event of unlocking screen and giving pwd.(i 'guess' thats logging in?) i get stats on server.. possible? do i need any thing else. like ldap ? any suggestions? [20:08] achandrashekar ^ ? [20:09] im here..sorry [20:10] yes...I did the first part of your setup with dhcp failover/load balancing which PXE boots to an LTSP image [20:10] but where I am stuck is the LDAP implementation for single login in management purposes. [20:11] the issue being their is a BUG with that ldap bomponent. [20:11] SO...in the final installation of the environment, it doesnt help to run into this problem. [20:13] root: dont knwo if that helps any...I know the pxe boot part is not that difficult to do..the auth part is the difficult part. [20:24] hi all. what is a good firewall generator and management application for a server using iptables? [20:25] ufw [20:26] or ubuntu-firewall same thing [20:26] vim [20:26] Someone had to say it. [20:28] vim works as well [20:29] firewallbuilder is great [20:30] Having a buddy with a good script that you cargo cult onto your box is another method. [20:31] badly need help with networking. please need your 5 mins.. http://pastebin.com/m2fbb2d05 [20:32] hello [20:32] Hello ivoks [20:32] hi ivoks [20:33] root-----: this is network problem? [20:33] ya [20:35] everything is possible, except maybe windowse [20:35] i don't know about that [20:36] so... i want to ask single detail about packaging [20:37] we want bacula in main, but atm only -mysql, -pgsql and gnome tray monitor are possible to move to main [20:37] everything else must stay in universe [20:37] is that doable? [20:38] can we have source in main that depends on universe build deps? [20:38] or source in universe with binaries in main? :) [20:38] ivoks: source in main that depends on universe packages as build deps is *not* possible [20:39] ok, that means we will drop QT and WX console [20:39] ivoks: WFM [20:40] move everything to main, except -sqlite version, which will stay in univere (cause it depends on sqlite, which is in universe) [20:40] deal [20:41] ivoks ? [20:41] ivoks: sqlite is in main [20:41] ivoks: Build-deps all have to be in Main. Main source can have Universe binaries. [20:41] since when? :) [20:41] ivoks: since dapper at least [20:41] sqlite or sqlite3? [20:41] both [20:42] ivoks: both are in main. [20:42] ivoks: the libraries are in main. [20:42] not libsqlite [20:42] but binary [20:42] ivoks: some of the binaries are in universe [20:42] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sqlite [20:43] ivoks: that's the sqlite binary [20:43] right [20:43] ivoks: the libraries (and thus source package) is in main [20:44] ivoks: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libsqlite3-0 [20:45] i'm talking about: [20:45] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bacula-director-sqlite [20:45] it depends on sqlite binary [20:45] and [20:45] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bacula-director-sqlite3 [20:46] ivoks: ok. Does bacula-directory-sqlite,3 really need the sqlite binary to work ? [20:46] ivoks: could it be dropped to a Suggestion ? [20:47] nijaba: ping [20:47] Hello Koon [20:47] nijaba: quick suggestion on the server survey [20:48] mathiaz: sqlite binary is now into main [20:48] mathiaz: well, package scripts relay on it [20:48] nijaba: on the number of servers, the low segment might not be precise enough [20:48] i'll dig into it a bit more [20:48] Koon: 1-10? [20:48] nijaba: 1, 2-5, 6-20 could be more precise [20:49] i've replaced dbconfig-common [20:49] nijaba: rather than 1-10, 11-20 [20:49] nijaba: you might want to know how many run a single Linux server being Ubuntu Server [20:49] Koon: ok, I'll fix that right away [20:49] Koon: thks [20:49] nijaba: with 1-10 you might catch too much SMBs [20:49] nijaba: np [20:50] nijaba: when was sqlite moved to main ? [20:50] mathiaz: when Matthias was at my place [20:51] nijaba: ok - so the seeds need to be updated. [20:51] mathiaz: we had a short discussion about it, and he came to the conclusion it was stupid it was not [20:51] nijaba: sqlite is still in universe. [20:51] mathiaz: that what I just was [20:51] mathiaz: * that what I just saw [20:51] mathiaz: will check with him [20:54] * ivoks installed gnupanel yesterday and totally wrecked his laptop [20:56] root-----: yes? [20:57] is pxe bootingand ldappossible in windows and linux both. and clients and linux as server? [20:57] is pxe booting and ldap possible in windows and linux both. and clients and linux as server? [20:57] pxe booting of linux is possible; i don't know about windows; don't that OS looks for exchanged hardware? [20:58] root-----: don't know about windows, but you can boot linux using bootd and tftpd [20:58] s/don't/doesn't/ [20:58] k [20:58] i've pxe booted 60 linux clients from one server [20:58] mathiaz: doko hadn't had time so far to complete it, but that still in his todo [20:59] * mok0 whips ivoks with a stick [20:59] you can have single image for most of the system, but you need some customization per computer [21:00] and that's easy to achive, just create init script that will extract IP address, and link /etc/custom_settings to appropriete directory [21:00] ivoks: does bacula need a specific version of sqlite? [21:00] ooops, meeting starting [21:00] nijaba: it supports both version [21:01] nijaba: we can move one version to main, and leave the other in universe [21:01] ivoks: thanks [23:38] I'm trying to backup a server (with over a million files) using rsync to an embedded NAS which is running out of memory. Any suggestions on how I might "encourage" rsync to use less memory and store temp files on disk? I'd rather not split the transfer into parts. [23:44] dendrobates! [23:44] you around?