[00:00] <root_____> mssever:  then where is the problem?
[00:00] <mssever> mssever: I think it's X that's borked; you can try reinstalling it if you want
[00:00] <warriorforgod> danbhfive: irssi
[00:00] <bsheen_> heh
[00:00] <bsheen_> hello
[00:00] <danbhfive> warriorforgod: thanks
[00:00] <bsheen_> i have a question
[00:00] <warriorforgod> danbhfive: np
[00:00] <mssever> alex___: Remind me what your issue was?...
[00:00] <bsheen_> i have a intel 845 chipset (del inspiron 1100) laptop
[00:01] <bsheen_> that does not like the xserver supplied with xubuntu
[00:01] <root_____> mssever:  then where is the problem?
[00:01] <bsheen_> i am downloading the alternate image
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> !enter | bsheen_
[00:01] <ubotu> bsheen_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:01] <mssever> root_____: see above
[00:01] <alex___> mssever: when i boot ubuntu, it is hanging on the "running local boot script"
[00:01] <__Oz__> alex: you can edit the conf files now
[00:01] <root_____> mssever: cant scrol
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> alex___: Can you switch tty's?
[00:01] <bsheen_> and would like to configure xorg.conf or replace the video driver so i can get xwindows working
[00:01] <bsheen_> yeah but my terminals are not full screen
[00:01] <mssever> alex___: Ah... I was asking that to see if you could get that far
[00:01] <bsheen_> its really annoying
[00:01] <bsheen_> right now
[00:01] <bsheen_> i am in knoppix hd install
[00:02] <natlinuxnewb> what prog can i use that is both Win and Ubuntu compatible to export all thunderbird settings and mail from winxp to ubuntu? I used Mozbackup but found out there is no Linux version.
[00:02] <yacc> Just wondering, is there something like dsaCheck for Ubuntu?
[00:02] <bsheen_> that works with my xwindows just fine
[00:02] <bsheen_> but
[00:02] <mssever> alex___: have you modified /etc/rc.local? That's the only thing that comes to mind
[00:02] <mssever> mssever: I think it's X that's borked; you can try reinstalling it if you want
[00:02] <bsheen_> i like xcfe and ubunutu better so .....
[00:02] <root_____> mssever: iam only here for 3 minuts. can you tell where is the problem?
[00:02] <__Oz__> tty = ?
[00:02] <bsheen_> hence my issue
[00:02] <mssever> root_____: I think it's X that's borked; you can try reinstalling it if you want
[00:02] <bsheen_> the installer just crashes on my laptop
[00:02] <alex___> mssever: i might have modified the local, how do reinstall it
[00:02] <root_____> mssever:  ah. ic.
[00:02] <root_____> mssever:  how to reinstall x?
[00:02] <bsheen_> i can not get anywhere
[00:02] <weeman13221> warriorforgod: ok all that did was scew up my resolution and everything
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> root_____: sudo apt-get reinstall xorg ?
[00:03] <mssever> alex___: First, try commenting everything out and see if that fixes it
[00:03] <bsheen_> i can not even install xubuntu to the hard drive
[00:03] <Devourer> How come I get this error "main.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory" when I try to compile with gcc?
[00:03] <root_____> Odd-rationale:  ok
[00:03] <bsheen_> i am downloading the alternate iso image as we speak
[00:03] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: when you do ctrl-alt-f1 for example, you go to a console (tty - teletype terminal) --- try it.. come back here with ctrl-alt-f7
[00:03] <bsheen_> is that more conifgurable??????
[00:03] <smelroy> natlinuxnewb, have you tried just copying the data directory? I would think that would work
[00:03] <kakei> who can help me setting grub to be able to run vista
[00:03] <mssever> root_____: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:03] <bsheen_> can i get to a command line without init=2 in grub boot parameters???
[00:03] <warriorforgod> weeman13221: You should now be able to go into the screen resolution setting and set it to what you want.  Also run glxgears and see if it is running correctly.
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> bsheen_: I beleive xubuntu comes with an xserver...
[00:04] <__Oz__> ok
[00:04] <__Oz__> I know how the terminal works
[00:04] <alex___> mssever: i tried reconfiguring the x, it did not resolve my problem
[00:04] <__Oz__> just didn't know it was referred to as tty
[00:04] <__Oz__> thanks, prince_jammys
[00:04] <usr13> Devourer: Do you have build-essential installed?
[00:04] <bsheen_> that would work wonderfully once xbunutu is installed ... but with the current xubuntu 7.10 i can not get that far into the install
[00:04] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: no prob, the tty is terminology from old times
[00:05] <root_____> Odd-rationale:  shouldnt i sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg && sudo apt-get install xorg ?
[00:05] <Devourer> usr13, I'm not sure... how would I check for that in the console?
[00:05] <bsheen_> can i drop back to the command line with init=2 in boot parameters and reconfigure before the install
[00:05] <bsheen_> and will the install reflect my "live" changes
[00:05] <A[s]H> salve
[00:05] <mssever> alex___: I don't think that it has anything to do with X; It's something to do with one of your boot scripts or something it's trying to start. The problem is determining which one.
[00:05] <root_____> mssever:  it says xserver-org is not installed
 i cant change resolution
[00:05] <bsheen_> and if so how the hell do i initate the install process from the bash shell
[00:05] <mssever> root_____: xserver-xorg
[00:05] <alex___> mssever: how can i analyze the boot script?
[00:05] <usr13> Devourer: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:05] <root_____> !reinstall
[00:05] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[00:05] <smelroy> natlinuxnewb, try this http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder and this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29021.html
[00:06] <prince_jammys> __Oz__: the are numbered tty1 tty2, etc. like when you do ctrl-alt-f2, or f3
[00:06] <danbhfive> root_____: what are you running, regular ubuntu?
[00:06] <Devourer> usr13, what is build-essentials for?
[00:06] <mssever> alex___: Well, the first thing I'd try is typing telinit 2 from recovery mode, and see if you get any telltale error messages
 Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:06] <weeman13221> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[00:06] <__Oz__> thanks, prince_jammys
[00:06] <A[s]H> help: in my eeeXubuntu isnt knotify. how can install it?
[00:06] <bsheen_> i know that i get the low graphics mode error ...... then i press continue .... or any number of actions and my laptop completely freezes
[00:06] <bsheen_> after some screen flicker
[00:06] <bsheen_> no matter how concise i make my actions or how verbose
[00:06] <alex___> mssever: can you please rephrase i have to do please
[00:06] <mssever> alex___: telinit 2 will finish the boot process
[00:07] <bsheen_> by the way, nice job, (shame it dosent like my laptop at present)
[00:07] <kakei> who can help me setting grub to be able to run vista thats my grub: http://pastebin.com/m21f730e4
[00:07] <alex___> mssever: i typed it and its still hanging at the boot script
[00:07] <mssever> alex___: from recovery mode, type      telinit 2     and look for any messages that might suggest what's dying
[00:08] <A[s]H> ???
[00:08] <A[s]H> helppp
[00:08] <A[s]H> help: in my eeeXubuntu isnt knotify. how can install it?
[00:08] <mssever> alex___: And it doesn't say anything about a particular program or give you an error message?
[00:08] <alex___> msserver: nope, it just stops at the boot script, the screen flashes a few times
[00:08] <Starnestommy> A[s]H: in a terminal, run sudo apt-get install knotify
[00:08] <Devourer> usr13, it worked, thank you.
[00:08] <A[s]H> there isnt
[00:08] <weeman13221> warriorforgod: my resolution is screwed now
[00:09] <root_____> helo
[00:09] <usr13> kakei: Uncomment 39-42
[00:09] <natlinuxnewb> smelroy: thnx bbl
[00:09] <A[s]H> nhave u a resouce url
[00:09] <Marti1> A[s]H: there isnt what?
[00:09] <A[s]H> knotify
[00:09] <A[s]H> in apt
[00:09] <arooni> help!  how do i fix this: Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings.
[00:09] <mssever> alex___: Well, if the screen flashes, that does sound suspiciously like X. back in recovery mode, type su <your username>, then startx and see if that works
[00:09] <arooni> thats what i get when i launch sound recorder
[00:09] <alex___> msseverL fatal I0 error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (o known processed) with 0 events remainging
[00:10] <bsheen_> heh if it was a new dell i could call dell for support :)
[00:10] <alex___> mssever: it def is my X, start x doesnt work
[00:10] <mssever> alex___: OK, so we're having a networking error with X, apparently
[00:10] <usr13> kakei: Change line 199 (hd0,4) to (hd0,0)
[00:10] <mssever> alex___: have you messed with /etc/hosts?
[00:10] <N86eAL> I have two 500GB discs, both are quite full(installer says unknown about used space). Is there an easy way to see what mount points leads to which physical drive? One is going to be formatted, and the other will not.
[00:10] <usr13> kakei: Forget lines 39-42
[00:11] <alex___> mssever: i dont believe so
[00:11] <kakei> usr13, thanks i will try
[00:11] <usr13> kakei: That is, if MS is on the first partition of primary drive.
[00:12] <mssever> alex___: Hmm... Well, All I know to tell you is to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped (even that-s a stab in the dark)
[00:12] <CVD-PR> command to view the processes?
[00:12] <kakei> usr13 how do i check that
[00:12] <mssever> CVD-PR: htop
[00:12] <alex___> mssever: i tried reconfiguring the x countless times
[00:12] <jeffery_> Does anyone know how to install and configure inadyn in Gutsy ubuntu
[00:12] <usr13> kakei: reboot
[00:12] <kakei> usr13 thats on my laptop
[00:12] <kakei> not here hehe
[00:12] <killown|away> hey I have installed ubuntu feisty and I want upgrade it for gusty anyone can give me sources.list of ubuntu gusty?
[00:12] <kakei> this is an other pc
[00:13] <Hydroxide> hi, quick question: is aptitude or apt-get the "correct" / "officially preferred" best command-line APT frontend?
[00:13] <mssever> alex___: Have you looked in ~/.xsession-errors?
[00:13] <Flannel> Hydroxide: Both.
[00:13] <Marti1> a[s]h: knotify is part of the core kde base i think
[00:13] <LinuxRulez> Does anyone know how to install and configure inadyn in Gutsy ubuntu
[00:13] <alex___> msseve: i just installed ubuntu, so file loss does not matter, is there away i can just make it a clean slate w/o reinstalling everything
[00:13] <usr13> kakei: If MS windows is on the first partition of the primary drive, that should do it.
[00:13] <Marti1> you would need to install kde for it
[00:13] <hw00djohn> hey, a buddy of mine is looking to switch from Vista to UBUNTU 7.10 because he likes my computer.  he wants to know if he'll encounter any probs either dual booting or doing a full migrate...also, he d/l's a lot of music (particularly with bitTorrents) will that be supported and how can he be protected from malware?
[00:13] <alex___> mssever: i just installed ubuntu, so file loss does not matter, is there away i can just make it a clean slate w/o reinstalling everything
[00:13] <Hydroxide> Flannel: really? mixing the two can have weird effects in my experience
[00:13] <Flannel> !upgrade | killown|away
[00:13] <ubotu> killown|away: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:13] <mssever> Hydroxide: aptitude tracks auto-installed packages, so it's more advanced, but they're both official
[00:14] <killown|away> ty
[00:14] <arooni> how do i fix this: [davies] gnome-sound-recorder --gst-debug-level=2
[00:14] <arooni> 0:00:00.162156000 29132 0x805e4d8 WARN                  alsa pcm_hw.c:1242:snd_pcm_hw_open: alsalib error: open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c failed: Device or resource busy
[00:14] <arooni> 0:00:00.162268000 29132 0x805e4d8 WARN                  alsa gstalsasrc.c:596:gst_alsasrc_open:<alsasrc0> error: Device 'default' is busy
[00:14] <arooni> [davies] gnome-sound-recorder --gst-debug-level=2
[00:14] <LinuxRulez> Does anyone know how to install and configure inadyn in Gutsy ubuntu
[00:14] <arooni> 0:00:00.165709000 29141 0x805e4d8 WARN                  alsa pcm_hw.c:1242:snd_pcm_hw_open: alsalib error: open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c failed: Device or resource busy
[00:14] <FloodBot2> arooni: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <arooni> 0:00:00.165821000 29141 0x805e4d8 WARN                  alsa gstalsasrc.c:596:gst_alsasrc_open:<alsasrc0> error: Device 'default' is busy
[00:14] <mssever> !paste |aroo
[00:14] <ubotu> aroo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:14] <jgiorgi> hey this is a stupid problem but i really need some help, i opened a file from the internet (rich text file) and i edited it and i hit save in open office and it just saved it but i cant find it
[00:14] <arooni> sorrya bout that
[00:14] <kakei> usr13 well (hd0,0) looks like is a partition for test , i have an inspiron 1520
[00:14] <jgiorgi> where are temporary files downloaded to?
[00:14] <AkumaNoTsubasa> hi all
[00:14] <shiftah> i have a button (fn+f7) on my thinkpad that fixes a bug i have with the resolution, is it possible for me to put it in a script?
[00:14] <LinuxRulez> Does anyone know how to install and configure inadyn in Gutsy ubuntu
[00:14] <Flannel> Hydroxide: Not really, aptitude does some stuff with its own database, which you have to use aptitude only to reap the benefits of, apt-get has autoremove (for a while now) which fills that same gap (removing unused depends) which doesn't require you to use apt-get only.
[00:14] <gyaresu> I manually installed the nvidia 1.0-7185 driver. I re-installed the default 169.09 driver but now when I reboot I have to 'modprobe -r nvidia' then 'modprobe nvidia' to get the 169 version loaded. How can I get rid of the other one?
[00:14] <shiftah> i would like to use a script instead
[00:15] <mssever> alex___: are there any errors in that file I mentioned?
[00:15] <Flannel> Hydroxide: aptitude really shows its benefits when used interactively
[00:15] <Hydroxide> Flannel: I know they're both available in main and very well supported. I ask because e.g. Debian has said in its release notes since sarge that aptitude was preferred because it resolved complicated dependency situations better. I was wondering if that was applicable to ubuntu as well, especially in light of how the command-not-found subsystem tells people to install missing commands via apt-get
[00:15] <AkumaNoTsubasa> I would like to apply change to every sessions on my computer (ubuntu gutsy) how to do it?
[00:15] <darwich> Can anyone help me with my Ati Radeon 1950Pro with ubuntu 7.10 ? .. when i activate the driver my GFX sowly gets warm .. and my cooler begins to spin .. even when idleing @ desktop.. what should i do ?
[00:15] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. weirdness.. downloading a sizable file in firefox,, my download progress bar is missing.
[00:15] <Hydroxide> Flannel: as far as I know the advanced dependency resolution features of aptitude have not yet made their way into apt-get
[00:15] <AkumaNoTsubasa> I want to activate the same 3D effects, have the same Templates and do on
[00:15] <mssever> Hydroxide: I prefer aptitude, but opinions probably differ
[00:15] <Flannel> Hydroxide: Thats a moot point once autoremove came about, and still, aptitude loses that advantage when you start mixing aptitude with update-manager/synaptic/adept/etc
[00:16] <NET||abuse> just says "Starting..." the whole time..
[00:16] <NET||abuse> But the download is happening,, i just have no reading
[00:16] <alex___> mssever: how do i check the ~/.xsession-errors?
[00:16] <NET||abuse> no progress reading in firefox download manager
[00:16] <arooni> how do i get my microphone working in ubuntu
[00:16] <arooni> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Resource busy or not available.
[00:16] <Marti1> NET||abuse: got to prefrences and click show download window while downloading a file
[00:16] <mssever> alex___: Use the less command. I just looked at the time. I have to go. Sorry I can't stay longer.
[00:16] <alex___> mssever: wait
[00:16] <Marti1> NET||abuse: its under the main tab
[00:16] <alex___> mssever: one more quick
[00:16] <NET||abuse> Marti1, yes.. that is ticked
[00:17] <Hydroxide> Flannel: I agree about the downside about mixing with update-manager/synaptic/adept but that's less relevant for ubuntu servers. how does the availability of autoremove in apt-get eliminate the benefit of the advanced dependency resolution features?
[00:17] <mssever> alex___: k
[00:17] <Sadi1> @abuse: Check if you can download the file using wget
[00:17] <alex___> mssever: is there away i can have ubuntu back to the way it was when i just installed it
[00:17] <alex___> mssever: like the idea of factory settings if you get what i mean
[00:17] <Flannel> Hydroxide: Sorry, autoremove fills in the aptitude removal thing, nothing in way of dependency handling for installation, only removal.
[00:17] <NET||abuse> Marti1, the download manager window (Ctrl+Y) shows up,, but the download is listed there with just "Starting... " listed under it.
[00:17] <mssever> alex___: There's no system restore like in XP, if that's what your'e asking
[00:17] <NET||abuse> Sadi1, no, the download is happening, i just have no progress meter,, the file in the directory is steadily growing
[00:17] <alex___> mssever: i wish life was easier take care
[00:17] <Flannel> !backup | alex___
[00:17] <ubotu> alex___: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[00:17] <AkumaNoTsubasa> can anyone help me please?
[00:18] <Marti1> NET||abuse: ah sorry i misunderstood that very weird
[00:18] <mssever> alex___: thanks. Bye
[00:18] <NET||abuse> indeed :)
[00:18] <Flannel> !away > mssever|away
[00:18] <weltschmerz> compiz isn't starting for me when i log in, and it's not falling back to metacity either.  so i have to run metacity or can't use machine.
[00:18] <alex___> i dont want to back up my system, i have a corrupt  boot script, and id rather do some system restore
[00:19] <darwich> Can anyone help me with my Ati Radeon 1950Pro with ubuntu 7.10 ? .. when i activate the driver my GFX sowly gets warm .. and my cooler begins to spin .. even when idleing @ desktop.. what should i do ?
[00:19] <Hydroxide> Flannel: right. according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackageDependencyManagement there is a branch of aptitude that shares it's autoinstalled-info database with apt-get. do you know if that's become the mainline version (ideally in both upstream/debian and in ubuntu) since that wiki page was edited in October '06?
[00:19] <Flannel> alex___: which boot script?  Just reinstall that particular package/boot script.  You needn't roll back everything.
[00:19] <NET||abuse> yep,, file is up to 47MB of 350MB,, repeatedly doing ls -l in the download dir shows the file is downloading
[00:19] <kakei> hey usr13 i made it work by running it on hd(0,2) but something werid happens, it get stuck on the loader screen, :s
[00:19] <darwich> Can anyone help me with my Ati Radeon 1950Pro with ubuntu 7.10 ? .. when i activate the driver my GFX sowly gets warm .. and my cooler begins to spin .. even when idleing @ desktop.. what should i do ?
[00:19] <Flannel> Hydroxide: No I don't.  You may ask in #ubuntu-devel (or they may be able to point you elsewhere more appropriate)
[00:19] <AkumaNoTsubasa>  I would like to apply change to every sessions on my computer (ubuntu gutsy) how to do it?
[00:19] <NET||abuse> hmm, right click on download,, select properties.. there's no "Started" time property
[00:19] <alex___> flannel: how do i reinstall the local boot script?
[00:19] <darwich> ? Can anyone help me with my Ati Radeon 1950Pro with ubuntu 7.10 ? .. when i activate the driver my GFX sowly gets warm .. and my cooler begins to spin .. even when idleing @ desktop.. what should i do ?
[00:19] <Hydroxide> Flannel: ok. thank you for your answers. have a good day.
[00:20] <Flannel> alex___: you'd reinstall the package that owns that script, which would depend on what the script is.
[00:20] <danbhfive> !repeat | darwich
[00:20] <Townk> Hi guys, I'm trying to make my Qt apps (e.g. skype) looks like my GTK ones and somehow they are different! Any clue on this?
[00:20] <ubotu> darwich: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:20] <NET||abuse> darwich, disable your touchpad and use external mouse
[00:20] <alex___> flannel: what do i type in the tty to reinstall a script
[00:20] <N6REJ> how do I disable the time stamping in Xchat?
[00:20] <NET||abuse> darwich, i had that happen on a nc6000
[00:20] <darwich> Net: Its not a laptop :s
[00:20] <NET||abuse> oh.. hmm
[00:21] <NET||abuse> then that's really weird
[00:21] <fdsajfdjk> im doing a dist-upgrade to hardy with linux mint lol
[00:21]  * N6REJ nm I found it
[00:21] <gyaresu> I manually installed the nvidia 1.0-7185 driver. I re-installed the default 169.09 driver but now when I reboot I have to 'modprobe -r nvidia' then 'modprobe nvidia' to get the 169 version loaded. How can I get rid of the other one?
[00:21] <darwich> ? Can anyone help me with my Ati Radeon 1950Pro with ubuntu 7.10 ? .. when i activate the driver my GFX sowly gets warm .. and my cooler begins to spin .. even when idleing @ desktop.. what should i do ?
[00:21] <N86eAL> How do you enter a partition, only knowing its mount point?
[00:21] <Photocopy> Q: What can I use for flash and java in ubuntu?
[00:22] <N6REJ> !server
[00:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[00:22] <Flannel> alex___: You'd use package management to reinstall the package.  AGain, it depends on what script you're reinstalling.
[00:22] <icesword> !fstab
[00:22] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[00:22] <N6REJ> !wine
[00:22] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:22] <Photocopy> !flash
[00:23] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:23] <darwich> ? Can anyone help me with my Ati Radeon 1950Pro with ubuntu 7.10 ? .. when i activate the driver my GFX sowly gets warm .. and my cooler begins to spin .. even when idleing @ desktop.. what should i do ?
[00:23] <alex___> flannel: my problem is that start up is hanging at local boot script, and its def the x thats the problem
[00:23] <icesword> stop it
[00:23] <Photocopy> "!flash" doesnt tell me what I need it to
[00:23] <alex___> flannel: but i reconfigured x so many times and its not working
[00:23] <icesword> Photocopy, what u want
[00:23] <darwich> can anyone gief channel name for ATi or something like that ?
[00:23] <spudratic0> any web browser i load can't post on any forum loaded them all any ideas
[00:24] <Photocopy> icesword: Something to MAKE flash and AS stuff on... er ubuntu. Like at school we use flash mx, but here I need something for ubuntu
[00:24] <computerex> lunar eclipse today guys
[00:24] <norv> Photocopy: flash is so very unstandard, you will have to see !wine
[00:24] <icesword> Photocopy, i am afraid u have to use wine
[00:25] <Jangari> chmod, is it r = 1, w = 2, x = 4?
[00:25] <squarebracket> computerex: tomorow
[00:25] <norv> Photocopy: and then pay for a copy of flash mx or otherwise obtain it
[00:25] <computerex> squarebracket - yep,sorry
[00:25] <squarebracket> :)
[00:25] <N86eAL> We are talking about while inside the installation program of Ubuntu 7.10. Need to differentiate between two "identical" drives, where the only info that differ is their mount point.
[00:25] <willwork4foo> computerex, where and when?
[00:25] <darwich> can anyone gief channel name for ATi or something like that ?
[00:25] <Photocopy> norv: And if i get the copy of mx from my teacher, how do I install it through wine off a disc? I can install from an installer exe through wine but IDK how from that
[00:25] <squarebracket> computerex, i'm really looking forward to it
[00:26] <norv> Photocopy: the disc would contain the installer exe
[00:26] <logyati> hello, anybody here is familiar with vmware server? im using vmware server 1.04. I cant get fullscreen to work! My host is Ubuntu 7.10 and the guest is Windows XP with vmware tools installed. when i click fullscreen, it says i should add the guest mode to xorg.conf. i dunno how to do it.
[00:26] <Itaku> whats a web browser for ubuntu other then firefox
[00:26] <Photocopy> norv: Oh, never really looked at installer discs.. thanx
[00:26] <Photocopy> Itaku: Epiphany? I think Opera too
[00:26] <logyati> i thought that i could ask it here cos in opensuse (my desktop) it works perfectly. Now im trying it on my laptop
[00:26] <Itaku> opera sucks...
[00:26] <norv> Itaku: konqueror, dillo, mozilla/seamonkey, epiphany, opera...
[00:26] <arooni> can someone please help me get my microphone working?  when i try to open up sound recorder, i see "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings".... alsamixer says that the mic inputs are unmuted.  i have gutsy and a sound blast live card.
[00:27] <Photocopy> Itaku: I dont know, you asked, didnt specify.
[00:27] <erat123> i just got a .docm file (damn microsoft) and cant open it on ubuntu... does anyone know of a converter?
[00:27] <Jangari> what are the numbers for the modes again?
[00:27] <squarebracket> erat123: .docm???
[00:27] <Jangari> permissions, i mean
[00:27] <darwich> ? Can anyone help me with my Ati Radeon 1950Pro with ubuntu 7.10 ? .. when i activate the driver my GFX sowly gets warm .. and my cooler begins to spin .. even when idleing @ desktop.. what should i do ?
[00:27] <norv> Itaku: there might even be a limited browser based on WebKit
[00:27] <erat123> squarebracket: yeah, that's their new ooxml crap
[00:28] <erat123> for office 2007
[00:28] <Photocopy> norv: What about java?
[00:28] <sami> How come vim-full has been unsupported
[00:28] <darwich> i give up ..
[00:28] <alex___> when the video card isnt compatible during installation, what do i type into the command line?
[00:28] <norv> Photocopy: Eclipse is pretty much industry standard, even though it's hell of bloated
[00:28] <logyati> guys?
[00:28] <squarebracket> erat123: oh, ok, i've only seen .docx
[00:28] <Bingster> hello, I am having trouble setting up grub. somebody could give me assistance?
[00:28] <sami> Or rather vim-gui-common and more.
[00:28] <loguser1> hi mssever|away  Odd-rationale  . i am root--- i have uninstalled xorg and i can now login to kde. but i gues its not kde. i just have terminal windows. so what shouold i do now?
[00:28] <Photocopy> norv: Thanks, ill try it anyway
[00:28] <squarebracket> Bingster: i might be able to help. can you be a bit more specific?
[00:29] <spudratic0> again no mater what web browser i use in ubuntu will not submit a post in any forum any ideas how to fix this unstable pos operating system
[00:29] <erat123> squarebracket: hmmm.... i wonder if .docm is some variation of docx
[00:29] <Bingster> sq: I have 3 sata discs, one with xp, probably there was the mbr (even though it is not on position 0)
[00:29] <norv> loguser1: you expect to log in graphically after you just removed xorg?
[00:29] <sami> How come vim-full has been unsupported, or rather vim-common-gui, vim-runtime?
[00:29] <gyaresu> Last try: I manually installed the nvidia 1.0-7185 driver. I re-installed the default 169.09 driver but now when I reboot I have to 'modprobe -r nvidia' then 'modprobe nvidia' to get the 169 version loaded. How can I get rid of the other one?
[00:29] <LjL> !away > mssever|away    (mssever|away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:29] <Townk> How do I make my Qt apps uses my GTK theme?
[00:30] <Bingster> I installed grub there, but when I bootup, I only get GRUB GRUB GRUB.... the whole screen
[00:30] <loguser1> norv:  i got screwed with kde. now what to do?
[00:30] <jimmygoon> I have no gnome-panel and I can't Alt+F2
[00:30] <credible> Townk: that's not possible (qt's theming support isn't flexible enough), but there is a theme engine for gtk that makes it use a qt theme
[00:30] <Starnestommy> spudratic0: does enabling or disabling javascript make any difference?  Also, is this just on one forum or on several?
[00:30] <spudratic0> who marked thos gusty as stable should go read the fdefinition of the word
[00:30] <loguser1> norv:  i have a mouse moving. a console . despite i uninstalled xorg.. why ?
[00:30] <squarebracket> Bingster: as in, you don't get the grub screen? just GRUB repeated all over the screen?
[00:31] <Bingster> yes, exactly
[00:31] <gyaresu> Bingster: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml?style=printable
[00:31] <socialdtk> If you disable javascript you can't see java content lol.
[00:31] <Townk> credible: ok, but do you know how do I tweek the Qt themes? I mean, do you know which file should I change?
[00:31] <socialdtk> That's all
[00:31] <squarebracket> Bingster, then no, i can't help. sorry.
[00:31] <socialdtk> let me rephrase myself... You can't see JavaScript content
[00:31] <spudratic0> I star I tried every thing i know of it is with out a doubt athe os
[00:31] <credible> Townk: run qtconfig ?
[00:31] <arooni> can someone please help me get my microphone working?  when i try to open up sound recorder, i see "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings".... alsamixer says that the mic inputs are unmuted.  i have gutsy and a sound blast live card.
[00:32] <loguser1>   i have a mouse moving. a console .wallpaper. i can run gui apps by typing ther name in console like amasn.  despite i uninstalled xorg.. why ?
[00:32] <norv> loguser1: not sure, but reinstall kubuntu-desktop if you want KDE
[00:32] <gyaresu> Bingster: half way down the page "grub grub grub"
[00:32] <Townk> credible: hmmm, didn't tryed yet, let me see...
[00:32] <loguser1> norv:  i never had kubuntu-desktop.      i came to know that when i typed apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[00:32] <namegame> is cedega worth the $5 a month?
[00:33] <spudratic0> so far on gusty knoverstion crashes my monitor is too dimm sound is too soft the web browsers don't work right and the list goes on and on
[00:33] <socialdtk> Who was having trouble with xorg and ATI card?
[00:33] <socialdtk> I had the same problem and would be glad to help.
[00:33] <norv> credible: that theme engine for GTK to make it use Qt themes is really poor quality, though
[00:33] <credible> norv: it is indeed
[00:33] <loguser1> if i dont have xorg installed. why can i see mouse and gui apps?
[00:33] <Townk> credible: I think I don't have qtconfig on my system. Something is wrong?
[00:33] <jimmygoon> help. please. I have no gnome-panel at all
[00:34] <norv> credible: for very very trivial things it's fine. add scrollbars? oops, massive artifacts
[00:34] <loguser1> if i dont have xorg installed. why can i see mouse and gui apps?
[00:34] <credible> Townk: I don't know :/ ask in #kubuntu maybe
[00:34] <spudratic0> I would like to know why they released this os as stable
[00:34] <sami> Anyone!?
[00:34] <danbhfive> loguser1: you may not have xorg installed, but you may have some of the packages that it depends on, in which case, you do have xorg installed
[00:34] <sami> How come vim-full has been unsupported, or rather vim-common-gui, vim-runtime?
[00:35] <danbhfive> sami unsupported?
[00:35] <Bingster> gyaresu: but would I find out, what is wrong with my setup. they are all sata disks, so I guess I cannot avoid for them being detected
[00:35] <Bingster> gyaresu: maybe lilo is a better option?
[00:35] <Townk> credible: ok, tks
[00:35] <N86eAL> Easiest way to know what disc is what in the ubuntu installation, when both are identical, and the only thing you have are their mount points?
[00:36] <norv> Bingster: gyaresu: grub has burned me a few times. not sure if lilo is best but it's been the most reliable
[00:36] <spudratic0> where is the support room for 7.04 going to try that I read it is more stable than this thing pretending to be an os
[00:36] <vix> my friend is having problems to boot ubuntu 7.10 x64 live cd, i think its because of nvidia drivers, he gets an black screen?
[00:36] <sami> danbhfive: Yes, vim-runtime and vim-common-gui has been removed from repo
[00:36] <sami> aswell as gpgme11
[00:36] <NemesisD> question, i'm trying to write a script that manages additions to the crontab, i have found crontabs for root and my user in /var/spool/cron/crontabs but it says DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall, where is the master and is there a non interactive way to edit and reinstall?
[00:36] <Bingster> norv: I guess I am going to read some docs
[00:36] <Starnestommy> spudratic0: this channel does support 7.04 as well
[00:36] <danbhfive> spudratic0: i dont think there is a support room for that, 6.06 might be what you are looking for
[00:36] <spudratic0> don't use the live cd it's crap install from text
[00:36] <danbhfive> sami try asking that in #ubuntu-motu
[00:37] <Starnestommy> sami: did you disable the universe repository?
[00:37] <sami> What's motu
[00:37] <sami> Starnestommy: Nope. But the multiverse it still there
[00:37] <danbhfive> sami: o wait, sorry, yeah, you should check your repos first
[00:37] <spudratic0> ok danb i'll give that a try
[00:37] <waini> someone here is a vnc-exper?
[00:37] <deniz__> does any1 no how to use kino? if u do plz help me i have a video project due tomorow and i dont no how to edit video!!
[00:37] <arooni> can someone please help me get my microphone working?  when i try to open up sound recorder, i see "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings".... alsamixer says that the mic inputs are unmuted.  i have gutsy and a sound blast live card.
[00:38] <danbhfive> sami I have all those packages, so its a repo problem
[00:38] <danbhfive> spudratic0: whats the problem, btw?
[00:38] <logyati> please help!!!
[00:39] <spudratic0> danb its too many to go into it is just best to dump this thing
[00:39] <ajushi> hi how do i use the sun java compiler instead of the ibm eclipse one?
[00:39] <spudratic0> danb my latest is I can't post in any forum it just hangs when I hit the post button
[00:39] <deniz__> can sum1 atleast lead me to kino help??
[00:40] <N86eAL> Anyone here that knows a lot about mount points and such? If yes, please send me a tell.
[00:40] <Bingster> gyaresu: I am used the instructions from this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 . where it states "setup (hd0)", shouldn't it be "setup (hd?)" (where ? is the number returned in the earlier steps)?
[00:41] <danbhfive> spudratic0: you sound like you are in a bad position then.  I'm not sure downgrading will help that kind of problem
[00:41] <spudratic0> danb loaded every browser in the list they all do the same thing hang on the post button
[00:41] <amenado> ajushi-> what does java -version tells you?
[00:42] <namegame> I can't get EVE-Online to run, when I run it in a terminal i get a "bad stuff" error...anyone have an idea?
[00:42] <spudratic0> worked for a whole week and a half then all the sudden it just started
[00:42] <xoqa> where would the python directory typically be located?
[00:43] <danbhfive> xoqa: which python        literally, run that
[00:43] <jimmygoon_> !gnome-panel
[00:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-panel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:43] <jimmygoon_> I can't get gnome-panel to launch at all
[00:43] <spudratic0> Man I feel bad for you guys for trying to give help on this os
[00:43] <eHome> i often get this error ? nautilus can not display "ssh://..." or "sftp://..." please select another viewr and try again -- annoying :(
[00:44] <norv> eHome: yeah, why I gave up using nautilus
[00:44] <prasanna> can anyone explain how i would go on mounting my external usb hd (ntfs)
[00:44] <danbhfive> spudratic0: have you thought of just reinstalling?  having a separate /home partition, etc
[00:44] <eHome> norv : what's good solutions?
[00:44] <norv> !ntfs-3g | prasanna
[00:44] <ubotu> prasanna: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:44] <prasanna> i'm a complete noob, i googled it, and when i followed what they said i messed it up, forced to format and reinstall
[00:44] <xoqa> danbhfive: that show's where the executable is. isn't there a directory which would contain python?
[00:45] <Sandra24> how can I temporarily disable iptables?
[00:45] <spudratic0> danb the only thing I did today was turn on the printer and bang it's all over
[00:45] <prasanna> ok perfect
[00:45] <kbrooks> Sandra24, um
[00:45] <ComradeMirror> can anyone help me out?
[00:45] <ComradeMirror> actually
[00:45] <danbhfive> xoqa: whats the difference?   you may want to try 'locate'
[00:45] <ComradeMirror> nvm
[00:45] <JSFofWT> Can someone help me install Ur Quan Masters on ubuntu?
[00:45] <N6REJ> can someone please tell me with xchat how to hide all the connects and disconnects?
[00:46] <TheZealot> hello people
[00:46] <Sandra24> kbrooks: ?
[00:46] <Bingster> no grub help for me?
[00:46] <norv> eHome: I can't think of a single one for gnome, Konqueror is still the most handy filemanager, imo. Though it is big, and will pull in lots of dependencies
[00:46] <Starnestommy> N6REJ: /ignore *!*@* joins quits parts
[00:46] <icesword> what u wrote in linux ,windows will treat it debris
[00:46] <TheZealot> butterscotch banana bread
[00:46] <spudratic0> I hope the next lts is not based on 7.10
[00:46] <deniz__> wat is the closest alternative to adobe premiere pro for ubuntu 7.10?
[00:46] <prasanna> guys after installing that, it recognizes the drive, but will not mount it.... "cannot mount volume"
[00:46] <N86eAL> Need help with mount points at the installation phase of Ubuntu 7.10. Need to find out which disc is which.
[00:46] <ComradeMirror> for some reason my songbird or rhym music box won't play my ipod
[00:46] <ComradeMirror> anyone know any issues?
[00:47] <JSFofWT> jsfofwt@zak:~$ apt-get install uqm
[00:47] <JSFofWT> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[00:47] <JSFofWT> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[00:47] <danbhfive> N86eAL: try sudo fdisk -l
[00:47] <icesword> JSFofWT, u need sudo
[00:47] <prasanna> Unable to mount the volume 'USB'.
[00:47] <JSFofWT> Thanks icesword
[00:47] <spudratic0> Is there a way to scan the os for broken pakages or errors?
[00:47] <danbhfive> spudratic0: are you using ubuntu?
[00:48] <spudratic0> yes gusty danb
[00:48] <icesword> prasanna, what is up
[00:48] <sg1cat> How do I configure ubuntu to start X with more than one display?  (not multiple monitors or split screens...I just want to be able to have both DISPLAY=:0.0 and DISPLAY=:0.1 for different programs, toggling with CTRL-ALT-F7 & CTRL-ALT-Fsomething_else
[00:48] <danbhfive> spudratic0: try this, exactly: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[00:48] <ComradeMirror> nvm I figured out linux didn't come with the audio codecs
[00:48] <spudratic0> wil do danb
[00:48] <Agent_bob> sg1cat edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ?
[00:48] <ComradeMirror> Anyone know if there is a way to add an App to Applications menu?
[00:49] <ComradeMirror> I would like to add songbird to it x.x
[00:49] <sg1cat> Agent_bob:  looked in there, found some weirdness about gdmflexiservers that weren't quite what I want - don't want to login twice, just start X with :0 and :1
[00:49] <jrib> ComradeMirror: right click on the ubuntu icon -> edit menu
[00:50] <prasanna> it jus wont let me mount
[00:50]  * N6REJ *sigh* /ignore *!*@* joins quits parts is not working
[00:50] <prasanna> gives me an error
[00:50] <jrib> N6REJ: what client?
[00:50] <Agent_bob> question,  are the .vob files all i need from a dvd to watch the movie without the disk ?
[00:50] <N6REJ> jrib: xchat
[00:50] <Mba7eth> are there any certificate for ubuntu, such as redhat ?
[00:50] <N6REJ> jrib: its the only one I know of for U!
[00:51] <luisgmarine_> Where does gnome keep the icons for x-chat and stuff?
[00:51] <N6REJ> jrib: i am more used to chatzilla
[00:51] <danbhfive> Agent_bob: i believe so
[00:51] <Agent_bob> sg1cat you could script it.   something like  gdm & Xorg    in the /etc/rc.local
[00:51] <Mba7eth> are there any certificate for ubuntu, such as redhat ?
[00:51] <Agent_bob> danbhfive k thanks.
[00:52] <Pricey> Mba7eth, yes. I believe there is information somewhere on canonical.com
[00:52] <sg1cat> Agent_bob: yeah, but I was looking to find the "ubuntu" way to do it.
[00:52] <sg1cat> don't want to do too much custom stuff, lest the next upgrade break me
[00:52] <Agent_bob> sg1cat ok.   if there is one.
[00:52] <Pricey> Mba7eth, http://www.ubuntu.com/training
[00:52] <Mba7eth> Pricey : thanks alot
[00:52] <fei> can some one help me instal ubuntu to my new pc
[00:52] <norv> sg1cat: the advantage is you can always fall back to the Linux way of doing things
[00:52] <N86eAL> Is there a way to find a link between the harddrives name and its corresponding mount point, when at the live cd installation?
[00:52] <N6REJ> jrib: you got a better client?
[00:52] <sg1cat> agent_bob:  It's Linux - the's always one...  :-P
[00:52] <sg1cat> *there's
[00:53] <bruenig> gnome does not keep icons for xchat
[00:53] <fei> can some one help me instal ubuntu to my new pc
[00:53] <bruenig> however, you are to find such things in /usr/share
[00:53] <Pricey> fei, what problem are you having?
[00:53] <sg1cat> norv: meh...too much plumbing in Ubuntu...want to find the right convention
[00:53] <jrib> N6REJ: I like irssi and weechat (no gui)
[00:53] <deniz__> any1 here no how to use any of the following:
[00:53] <deniz__> Avidemux
[00:53] <deniz__> Cinerrela
[00:53] <deniz__> Kino
[00:53] <deniz__> KDEnlive
[00:53] <fei> i cant seem to install in on my new pc
[00:53] <FloodBot2> deniz__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <N6REJ> jrib both have no gui?
[00:53] <jrib> N6REJ: yes
[00:53] <fei> i think my specs are good
[00:53] <Pricey> fei, what problem are you having?
[00:54] <root-----> what the heck is going on..  this is loguser1........     i had a problem with x. i though it was kde. but it wasnt. i couldn solve it. i uninstalled xorg. stil could use restricted gui. with no kde. then i removed xorg*. kdm damon stoped. i went to console only. typed 'startx' . now iam using full gui. and kde. whats going on................
[00:54] <N6REJ> jrib: dang :(
[00:54] <N6REJ> kk
[00:54] <Pricey> !pm | fei
[00:54] <ubotu> fei: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[00:54] <Pricey> fei, what have you tried?
[00:54] <N6REJ> jrib: maybe iĺl switch back to chatzilla then
[00:54] <danbhfive> root-----: what version are you using? ubuntu? kubuntu?
[00:55] <spudratic0> danb what was that supposed to do lol
[00:55] <root-----> danbhfive kubuntu 7.10
[00:55] <norv> root-----: something depends on kde and by uninstalling kde, xorg, etc, you aren't really removing it
[00:55] <danbhfive> !tab | spudratic0   please use my full name, it makes it easier for me, and tab will help allot with that
[00:55] <ubotu> spudratic0   please use my full name, it makes it easier for me, and tab will help allot with that: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:55] <Devourer> Is there a where command in bash?
[00:56] <danbhfive> spudratic0: it checks all the dependencies on your ubuntu-desktop installation
[00:56] <spudratic0> danbhfive it stoped this is the last entry Setting up gnome-user-guide (2.20.0+svn20071003ubuntu2)
[00:56] <Pricey> fei, what have you tried?
[00:56] <N86eAL> I mean, someone must now how to find a connection between a mount point and its actual name, when on the live cd?
[00:56] <sagar> i'm getting this error at startup "hal cannot be initialized" and in my dmesg, i get lines like "APM disabled: apm is not smp safe" and "failure registering capabilities with primary security module" ...what do these mean!?
[00:56] <root-----> norv whats that 'something'?
[00:56] <danbhfive> spudratic0: if everything was ok, nothing should have happened
[00:56] <Frogzoo> Devourer: either which or locate
[00:56] <danbhfive> spudratic0: it should have just listed all your packages, so to speak
[00:56] <Devourer> Frogzoo, oh yeah, thanks. :)
[00:57] <Kalamansi> !iptables
[00:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[00:57] <cicero_b> so is ebox a good way to manage apache
[00:57] <spudratic0> danbhfive it did not find anything wrong
[00:57] <Kalamansi> !iptable
[00:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iptable - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:57] <root-----> can some one explain. whats the backbon. the working of gui
[00:57] <sg1cat> anyway, thanks Agent_bob and nurv.  :-)
[00:57] <danbhfive> spudratic0: did it install anything?
[00:57] <mateus> Hi
[00:57] <__Oz__> !devilspie
[00:57] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[00:57] <spudratic0> danbhfive just some help files
[00:58]  * root----- waits
[00:58] <norv> root-----: X, and all gui apps depend on it
[00:58] <prasanna> still having trouble mounting, when i plug it in, ubuntu says 'cannot mount volume'
[00:58] <Kalamansi> !seen th0r
[00:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen th0r - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:58] <danbhfive> spudratic0: i dont know then, sorry
[00:58] <Kalamansi> !th0r
[00:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about th0r - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:58] <root-----> norv and btw, i have no xorg atm. still runing kde. how why?
[00:58] <spudratic0> oh well back to xpuke for now I guess I finally thought I was going to get away from it but i guess not lol
[00:58] <fei> pricey
[00:58] <fei> u there ?
[00:58] <Pricey> fei, yes
[00:59] <danbhfive> root-----: some packages are called meta packages
[00:59] <Pricey> !pm | fei
[00:59] <ubotu> fei: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[00:59] <Pricey> fei, what have you tried so far, and what went wrong?
[00:59] <cicero_b> anyone know how to to get into the ruby on rails channel (it redirects to #register-nickserv)
[00:59] <fei> k
[00:59] <Pricey> cicero_b, read the topic in that channel.
[01:00] <root-----> danbhfive what are meta packages. and what x do i have atm?
[01:00] <cicero_b> Pricey: i did, but after i follow the instructions, nothing happens
[01:00] <danbhfive> root-----: those packages don't install anything, except other packages, so while you may have uninstalled a meta package, you may not have removed the other packages,   you can try sudo apt-get autoremove      but, if these are packages that were installed at installation time, that won;t work, ie it wont remove them
[01:00] <fei> AMD 64 X2 5600+ 2.81 GHZ, ASUS M2N-E SLI MOBO , 2GB of RAM, 8600GT NVIDIA,  Those are my specs i can load any drivers for ubuntu or get it to install or were to beagin
[01:00] <prasanna> will ubuntu not mount ntfs? i installed the ntfs tool, enabled both external and internal, and it still wont mount it. 'cannot mount volume'
[01:00] <fei> i cant**
[01:00] <Pricey> cicero_b, you don't seem to have. #freenode will beable to help you registering if needed.
[01:00] <Starnestommy> cicero_b: register your nickname (/msg nickserv help register) or identify to nickserv (/msg nickserv help identify)
[01:00] <Pricey> fei, so you have installed ubuntu?
[01:01] <root-----> xorg installs and maintains X ?
[01:01] <fei> yes on my old pc but i think i didnt install it
[01:01] <root-----> danbhfive ok
[01:01] <fei> cuz i couldnt do anything
[01:01] <cicero_b> i have typed: /msg nickserv help register -- 5 times -- what _should_ happen?
[01:01] <fei> internet nuthing
[01:01] <hoehaver> so i downloaded the ubuntu 7.10 desktop install which when i got to the desktop part the res was too high ( i guess) and my lcd screen said " out of range" so i downloaded the alternative cd and installed it and it does the same thing. i see the ubuntu loading screen but once the noise for the login screen plays the monitor goes out and says "out of range" how can i correct this problem?
[01:01] <fei> and im a windows user so
[01:01] <Starnestommy> cicero_b: it should tell you how to register
[01:01] <N86eAL> Ok, I guess I need to physically remove my discs to know which is which. I will do that tomorrow!
[01:02] <cicero_b> o.k., "it"? how do i read the topic -- i thought i did, but i could be missing something
[01:02] <Belboz99> Hey all, does anyone know which driver I should be using for my ATI 3650?
[01:02] <fei> u get that pricey ?
[01:02] <Pricey> fei, please tell me *exactly* what you've done.
[01:03] <fei> NUTHING...i tryrd installing it...
[01:03] <fei> dont know were to get the drivers for it...
[01:03] <Pricey> fei, "tried installing it"?
[01:03] <Pricey> fei, how did you try installing it?
[01:03] <Pricey> fei, you realise ubuntu isn't a windows application right? you don't install it while windows is running?
[01:03] <fei> i insert the disk, installed the whole thing and it worked but my drives didnt ?
[01:04] <fei> internet,
[01:04] <steven__> hi guys
[01:04] <icesword> anyone use vm to virtualize macos x 10.5.1 successfully
[01:04] <fei> mobo
[01:04] <fei> vid card
[01:04] <Pricey> fei, what drives didn't work?
[01:04] <Pricey> fei, how do you normally connect to the internet?
[01:04] <fei> ethernet
[01:04] <deniz__> plz sum1 tell me were to go for guides on using the video editor kino or is there a forum for kino?
[01:04] <fei> my motherboard...
[01:04] <Pricey> fei, how do you know it didn't work?
[01:04] <fei> M2N-E SLI board
[01:04] <Pricey> fei, what did you try?
[01:04] <cicero_b> starnestommy: nope just instructions to type: >nickserv< help register -- then nothing happens
[01:04] <fei> cuz i couldnt connect
[01:04] <Pricey> deniz__, have you tried the kino website?
[01:04] <fei> to internet
[01:04] <fei> or anythind
[01:04] <Pricey> fei, how were you trying to access the internet?
[01:04] <Starnestommy> cicero_b: are you ignoring /notices?
[01:04] <darklordveynom> how do i turn off the Alt menu when I alt-right click on an application?
[01:04] <icesword> anyone use vm to virtualize macos x 10.5.1 successfully
[01:05] <fei> firefox
[01:05] <fei> using a cable modem
[01:05] <fei> i huess i dont know how to set it up ?
[01:05] <fei> guess..
[01:05] <cicero_b> starnestommy: could would i konw if i am ignorian /notices ?
[01:05] <WhiteNerd> Does anyone know of a good tutorial of how to deploy a file server and have desktop machines connect to it to transfer file to and from. I also need Remote Desktop to be able to run. I'm setting up a computer lab
[01:05] <Pricey> fei, next to the volume top right, there is something called the network manager. If you plug the cable in, it should become two green dots and a blue thing flash round, then into a bar chart. Do you see any of that?
[01:05] <Starnestommy> cicero_b: type /ignore with nothing after it
[01:06] <darklordveynom> !alt
[01:06] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[01:06] <norv> WhiteNerd: what sort of file server? The least common denominator, ftp?
[01:06] <Kalamansi> hello is there any way that could stop "restart" and typing "sudo ifconfig down and sudo ifconfig up"? in order to have internet I always do this all the time whenever I online... =/
[01:06] <deniz__> Pricey, im checking but i dont c a forum
[01:06] <cicero_b> o.k. now i see more stuff -- did i fix something?
[01:06] <cicero_b> (like blue lines . . . i'll try again)
[01:06] <Starnestommy> cicero_b: does it say the ignore list is empty?  If not, what does it say?
[01:07] <levander> WhiteNerd: You need samba for the file server.  And, Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client for the remote access into Windows boxes.
[01:07] <WhiteNerd> NORV: No, I need the computers to be in the computer lab to be able to transfer file to and from it for storage of files
[01:07] <spudratic0> danbhfive thank you I don't belive it but it fixed something can you post that cammand again so I can copy it lol so when it happens again I can fix it lol
[01:07] <joecurlee> hi all... running ubuntu 7.10 with mythtv... able to get video, but no audio. Tried playing video via VLC and was able to get some (terrible sounding) audio from /dev/dsp1
[01:07] <norv> WhiteNerd: are the computers running windows or not?
[01:07] <Dante123> hi all.  How do I turn off automount of a windows ntfs drive?
[01:07] <joecurlee> any ideas what may be causing this?
[01:07] <two_bits> joelcurlee
[01:07] <joecurlee> yes
[01:07] <Pricey> deniz__, http://www.kinodv.org/docbook/
[01:07] <two_bits> are you running a laptop with an hda intel card?
[01:07] <cicero_b> i saw this: http://pastebin.com/m6cd65677
[01:07] <WhiteNerd> NORV: They are ruuning Ubuntu Desktop 7.1
[01:07] <joecurlee> no running a desktop with amd 64
[01:08] <deniz__> Pricey, i just came to that page!
[01:08] <cicero_b> oh --  Ignore list is empty.
[01:08] <danbhfive> spudratic0: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[01:08] <cicero_b> sorry -- missed that
[01:08] <levander> Dante123: you do it in /etc/fstab - man mount for the options you can set in there to turn off automount
[01:08] <joecurlee> the audio card is integrated
[01:08] <hoehaver> so i downloaded the ubuntu 7.10 desktop install which when i got to the desktop part the res was too high ( i guess) and my lcd screen said " out of range" so i downloaded the alternative cd and installed it and it does the same thing. i see the ubuntu loading screen but once the noise for the login screen plays the monitor goes out and says "out of range" how can i correct this problem?
[01:08] <Starnestommy> cicero_b: try /msg nickserv register password.  Replace "password" with your password
[01:08] <two_bits> joelcurlee: try upgrading to the latest version of alsa
[01:09] <deniz__> Pricey, it says dv or smil file....i hage .mpg files
[01:09] <CaptObvious> if I chmod a directory as 777 recursively, will any new directories created inside that directory inherit those permissions?
[01:09] <levander> WhiteNerd: ssh, vnc, xdmcp are UNIX to UNIX options for remote access
[01:09] <Dante123> levander is there a GUI way of turning this on or off?  I have turned a friend onto Ubuntu and need to send him simple instructions to follow for this.
[01:09] <norv> WhiteNerd: okay, easiest way is to install openssh and then you can use scp, fish, etc to copy files easily
[01:09] <joecurlee> two_bits: ok i'll check in to that thanks
[01:09] <cicero_b> yeah, i never set a password -- so i'll do that
[01:09] <levander> Dante123: I was looking a little for one earlier today.  I don't think there is, but I stopped looking before I became convinced.
[01:10] <ConstyXIV> trying to run the alt installer from a usb stick, how do I get it to mount the stick as /cdrom?
[01:10] <icesword> anyone use vm to virtualize macos x 10.5.1 successfully
[01:10] <levander> Dante123: It seems like they would have one because they have that "Shared Folders" dialog to turn on sharing for a folder...  But, I don't think they do yet.
[01:10] <Kalamansi> hello is there any way that could stop "restart" and typing "sudo ifconfig down and sudo ifconfig up"? in order to have internet I always do this all the time whenever I online... =/
[01:10] <cicero_b> heck -- anyone know how to change your password in xchat without logging out??
[01:10] <WhiteNerd> NORV: Is it able to be used by the computer illiterate?
[01:10] <WhiteNerd> Levander: Thanks I'll use that
[01:10] <darklordveynom> how do i disable the ALT menu in ubuntu?
[01:10] <norv> WhiteNerd: you can set up a shortcut on the users desktop
[01:10] <brazilian812> can someone help me mount a flash drive? i get an error when i plug the drive in "Cannot mount volume"
[01:10] <spudratic0> thanks danbhfive that helps as I can't see as it is and my monitor is dim never become a welder you will loose your after a while no mater what you do thanks again
[01:10] <levander> WhiteNerd: I think ssh is the easiest to set up, but having Samba setup is going to be the easiest for users to use.
[01:10] <deniz__> Pricey, nvm its importing np
[01:11] <spudratic0> sight
[01:11] <joecurlee> two_bits: i have alsa-base 1.0.14-1ubuntu2 which is supposedly the latest version
[01:11] <WhiteNerd> NORV: They would be able to just drag and drop the files into the shortcut right?
[01:11] <norv> levander: WhiteNerd: only for windows is samba easier for users to use, really
[01:11] <Dante123> so levander if I edit the fstab file- do I just comment out the drives I don't want to mount on startup by putting a # in front of the line?
[01:11] <levander> norv: If you ahve samba already setup, it looks just like a regular folder on the desktop for the user
[01:11] <norv> WhiteNerd: yes, or scp filename user@server, if you are teaching command line
[01:12] <brazilian812> anyone? i cant mount my flash drive.  apparently an invalid mount option
[01:12] <waini> any vnc-expert present?
[01:12] <recon> How can I change my defualt shell to zsh?
[01:12] <WhiteNerd> NOt going to teach command line, that is to advanced for the people.
[01:12] <Dante123> so levander if I edit the fstab file- do I just comment out the drives I don't want to mount on startup by putting a # in front of the line?
[01:12] <levander> recon: you can't, ssh isn't that kind of shell
[01:12] <danbhfive> spudratic0: no problem, I;m glad that you are having success  :)
[01:12] <norv> levander: can't ssh be set up like that as well?
[01:12] <recon> levander: ssh? what did i say?
[01:12] <hw00djohn> is there a program for ubuntu that is similar to Apple's Reason or Garage Band?
[01:12] <norv> levander: or is that only a kde feature?
[01:13] <root-----> guys........ what x do i have right now?
[01:13] <Dante123> something like this:
[01:13] <hoehaver> so i downloaded the ubuntu 7.10 desktop install which when i got to the desktop part the res was too high ( i guess) and my lcd screen said " out of range" so i downloaded the alternative cd and installed it and it does the same thing. i see the ubuntu loading screen but once the noise for the login screen plays the monitor goes out and says "out of range" how can i correct this problem?
[01:13] <killown> how do I to get restricted drivers or programs on apt-get?
[01:13] <ConstyXIV> "mount: Mounting /dev/sdb1 on /cdrom failed: No such device"
[01:13] <joecurlee> i'm guessing i'm screwed?
[01:13] <danbhfive> root-----: u thunj there is only one kind of x
[01:13] <WhiteNerd> Lastly, On the server machine of this do I have to set up OpenSSH also?
[01:13] <norv> recon: you go into /etc/passwd and change the /bin/bash to /bin/zsh or etc
[01:13] <brazilian812> Does no one really know how to get a flash drive mounted if i get a Cannot MOunt Volume error?
[01:13] <recon> norv: k, thanks.
[01:13] <Thorsten11> what norv said
[01:13] <Dante123> so levander if I edit the fstab file- do I just comment out the drives I don't want to mount on startup by putting a # in front of the line? like this:
[01:13] <levander> Dante123: commenting out the line doesn't just turn automount off, it also turns off the ability to mount it via a simple 'mount /dev/xxx' command.  You have to do the whole 'mount /dev/xxx /mnt/xxx' and any other necessary options on that command  - which may be fine for you
[01:13] <root-----> danbhfive whats the name
[01:13] <norv> recon: MAKE SURE you can access things properly with root or another admin user, or you will lock yourself out
[01:14] <TraceGreen> Hello, are there any ways to create a bootable fat32 filesystem in linux?
[01:14] <danbhfive> root-----: xserver-xorg ?
[01:14] <root-----> whats the package name for that
[01:14] <Dante123> # UUID=C654A0BD54A0B19B /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:14] <joecurlee> also: all other audio works perfectly. I'm assuming it could be my capture card that is screwing up, but the fact i was able to get audio via vlc gives me hope
[01:14] <root-----> danbhfive ok
[01:14] <spudratic0> Is there a way to magnafiy my log files of chats lol so I don't have to put my forehead to the monitor when I read them
[01:14] <recon> norv: i can.
[01:14] <danbhfive> root-----: what are you trying to do?
[01:14] <TraceGreen> I tried mkdosfs, but it failed
[01:14]  * root----- thanks all for the fish :)
[01:14] <root-----> danbhfive jsut knowing
[01:14] <root-----> bye :)
[01:15] <levander> recon: norv I thought the question was like changing your login shell so that instead of it being like bash, it would be like ssh?  ssh is used to connect to remote machines, on the machine you connect to, you get a login shell
[01:15] <brazilian812> Anyone? a little helpxors over here is needed
[01:15] <levander> if you make that login shell ssh, the ssh is going to try to login to another machine
[01:15] <Agent_bob> ok how to copy the .vob files from the dvd to the hd ?
[01:15] <prasanna> hey guys, i was able to mount it, used a force command
[01:15] <recon> levander: i never said anything abut ssh. i just wanted to change it on the local machine.
[01:15] <bobbob1016> I'm running Gutsy, what would be the best way to record a sound that is playing on my computer?  I'm looking for a digital way, not headphones into mic jack, if I can avoid it.
[01:15] <norv> levander: recon: no, it was 'zsh'
[01:15] <joecurlee> any other suggestions for getting audio to play in mythtv ?
[01:15] <Dante123> I'm not sure I understand levander.  My friend has a DellRecovery partition that gets automounted.  We would like to get rid of that particular partition from mounting at all.  How do we do this simply?
[01:16] <Agent_bob> [00000276] access_file access error: read failed (Input/output error)
[01:16] <prasanna> my question is, now i wanna format it, i might install windows later on so just wonder whats the best format i should format it to so that both linux and windows would use without a problem
[01:16] <WhiteNerd> NORV: thanks for all the help. Great guy.
[01:16] <recon> norv: also, is there any way to verify zsh is actually running in stead of bash?
[01:16] <levander> recon: My bad, I misread zsh as ssh.  I think the command to change your default shell is just "chsh" - let me check.
[01:16] <two_bits> joecurlee: did upgrading alsa not work?
[01:16] <danbhfive> Dante123: try editing /etc/fstab and #commenting out the line that mounts it
[01:16] <danbhfive> prasanna: fat32
[01:16] <levander> recon: I checked, just 'chsh' and answer questions to change it.
[01:17] <prasanna> does fat32 have draw backs?
[01:17] <recon> levander: ok, thanks.
[01:17] <norv> recon: i think it's different enough just to look at the prompt. but use 'who' and that'll also show it
[01:17] <prasanna> like speed and performance?
[01:17] <Dante123> okay danbhfive....that will just affect that one partition...not say the sda1 partition we still want mounted
[01:17] <joecurlee> two_bits: correct, i'm already up to date with version 1.0.14-1ubuntu2
[01:17] <norv> recon: yeah chsh is probably safer than messing around in passwd
[01:17] <danbhfive> Dante123: its up to you, fstab controls all, so don't mess it up!!
[01:17] <joecurlee> at least that's according to synaptic
[01:17] <two_bits> joecurlee
[01:17] <Agent_bob> prasanna yes.  file size limit 2g  no permissions bit on the fs  and generally not suited for linux
[01:17] <joecurlee> yes
[01:17] <Dante123> danbhfive..u got me scared cause its my friends computer.
[01:18] <prasanna> so what should i format it to?
[01:18] <two_bits> joecurlee: The latest 1.0.16. I used to have no sound, installing that fixed it
[01:18] <prasanna> the drive is 120 gigs, so it will be holding a lot of info, regularly accessed
[01:18] <danbhfive> Dante123: well, opening the file should scare you, just be careful what you edit, and don't delete, just #comment out with #
[01:18] <joecurlee> two_bits: thanks... synaptic needs to be refreshed :)
[01:18] <dsmith_> two_bits: reinstalling alsa?
[01:18] <danbhfive> Dante123: *should NOT scare you
[01:19] <Agent_bob> prasanna ext3     windows can access ext# fs also with a special (free) driver.
[01:19] <prasanna> ok perfect
[01:19] <Dante123> okay danbhfive I will only comment out lines...no editing or deleting.
[01:19] <prince_jammys> Dante123: place a # at the very beginning of the line
[01:19] <two_bits> dmsmith_: upgrading alsa, actually
[01:19] <prasanna> and ext3 performs well too?
[01:19] <Dante123> And just the line that has to do with those partitions
[01:19] <Agent_bob> yes
[01:19] <prince_jammys> Dante123: correct
[01:19] <prasanna> thank you, appreciate it
[01:19] <Dante123> such as Dellrecovery etc.
[01:19] <Dante123> Thanks for the help.
[01:20] <Powerking89670> Okay, I know normally in a dual-boot you should install windows first, but lets say I want to install windows on an already working linux box, how would I go about fixing my MBR...
[01:20] <norv> Dante123: it's not like editing the master boot record, you can always redo it
[01:20] <Dante123> One last thing.  How can i create a launcher on desktop to open a terminal, switch to a directory, and run a command?
[01:20] <deniz__> how long does it take on average to import a 26.2mb file in kino?
[01:21] <Agent_bob> Dante123 shell script
[01:21] <deniz__> on a 3 ghz cpu
[01:21] <deniz__> p4
[01:21] <norv> Powerking89670: use a live CD, chroot in, and re-run grub or lilo
[01:21] <demon_spork> When I installed Ubuntu, it was /dev/sda3, but I had an empty space right in front of it. I then made a partition on that space, which changed ubuntu's partition to /dev/sda4. I managed to sort this out in menu.lst, but every time the kernel updates, it rewrites those opetions in menu.lst to (hd0,2) rather than the (hd0,3) that it changed to. How do I prevent it from changing that?
[01:21] <prasanna> anyone here know of an music player that utilizes coverflow of album art? i saw what the ipod touch cna do and i just love the concept. linux being opensource i just figured there must be something that  does something similar to that, no?
[01:21] <Dante123> Agent_bob how do you create one of those
[01:21] <Dante123> just a text editor
[01:21] <Agent_bob> Dante123  in a text editor
[01:21] <Dante123> So would this work:  terminal
[01:22] <Dante123> cd Desktop
[01:22] <Dante123> cd CODSERVER
[01:22] <Agent_bob> Dante123 something like     cd /some/dir ;exec some command --with args
[01:22] <Dante123> codserver
[01:22] <two_bits> joecurlee: what soundcard are you using?
[01:22] <anzan> prasanna, there's something called Jukebox I think which does coverflow and works with your media app.
[01:22] <prasanna> i read songbird might do it, but can anyone confirm?
[01:22] <joecurlee> two_bits: i feel like an idiot, but i can't figure out how to upgrade alsa... synaptic is saying the version above, and apt-get didn't work
[01:22] <joecurlee> any suggestions?
[01:22] <prasanna> jukebox? ok let me google it
[01:22] <Agent_bob> Dante123   you can make a link to your script and have it open in a terminal.
[01:22] <Dante123> okay...how is this look:  cd /som/dir; exec codserver
[01:23] <joecurlee> two_bit: just saw your question: it's an on board with my amd64
[01:23] <two_bits> joecurlee: synaptic won't do it, you have to do it manually from the console... fortunately, i have written a script that does just that
[01:23] <Dante123> its for my kids to start the call of duty server
[01:23] <prasanna> anzan would you have a link? cant seem to find it on google
[01:23] <kplaxmaster> how do i get the flash player for 7.10 x64?
[01:23] <prince_jammys> Dante123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292874
[01:24] <joecurlee> the mother board is an m2a-vm hdmi
[01:24] <kplaxmaster> it wasn't pushed up to the repo was it?
[01:24] <Agent_bob> Dante123 when you save your shell script.  put it some place you wont accidently delete it    mkdir -p $HOME/bin   <<< maybe  put it in ~/bin  and make it executable.      it's real simple.
[01:24] <Dante123> thanks all for your help with these things
[01:24] <joecurlee> two_bits: how do i get the script?
[01:24] <kplaxmaster> can anyone help me get the flash-plugin working for 7.10 on x64 arch?
[01:25] <two_bits> joecurlee: /msg me and we'll talk
[01:25] <haxit> Hello, I need some help please.
[01:25] <prince_jammys> Dante123: the link answers half of your question (start in a directory) -- you have to look in "man gnome-terminal" to see how to invoke your command in the launcher
[01:25] <Agent_bob> [00000276] access_file access error: read failed (Input/output error)
[01:26] <two_bits> joecurlee: however, in order for this to work, we need to know your soundcard...
[01:26] <TurtleOfDoom> !ask | HaXiT
[01:26] <ubotu> HaXiT: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:26] <HaXiT> I have another 100gb partition, how can i add it on the my current partition?
[01:26] <TurtleOfDoom> HaXiT: what do you mean by add it on?
[01:26] <Agent_bob> HaXiT mount it some where
[01:26] <two_bits> joecurlee: go into a console and type "aplay -l " without the quotes, and tell me the output
[01:26] <HaXiT> Agent_bob: i don't want to do that every time i log in
[01:26] <joecurlee> two_bits: the motherboard is asus m2a-vm hdmi
[01:27] <joecurlee> looking for sound card info now
[01:27] <Agent_bob> HaXiT that's what the file system table is for
[01:27] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: what type of partition?
[01:27] <root-----> nomasteryoda when i go to consoleonly and type startx . it starts it good. but at regular boot , after giving username/pwd. i only see mouch . wallpaper and a console. no kde. why?   i only see kde in good if i select 'kde' from sessions while giving username pwd. is any thing wrong? (provided that i already have installed xorg)
[01:27] <Agent_bob> HaXiT /etc/fstab
[01:27] <root-----> prince_jammys ^
[01:27] <HaXiT> its formated to ext3
[01:27] <HaXiT> ?
[01:27] <spudratic0> One last question what is the room to just shoot the breeze
[01:27] <icesword> anyone use virtualbox to virtualize macos x 10.5.1 successfully
[01:27] <vix> how do I reinstall grub in the live cd mode?
[01:28] <Agent_bob> !grub > vix
[01:28] <TurtleOfDoom> !fstab | HaXiT
[01:28] <vix> i get an error saying "Cant boot operating system" at boot.
[01:28] <icesword> !grub | vix
[01:28] <ubotu> HaXiT: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:28] <ubotu> vix: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:28] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: ok to automount it , a line has to be added to the file /etc/fstab .. i can help you with that
[01:28] <Areslp> can anyone tell me what's the default apt souces.list is ?
[01:28] <HaXiT> Ok, thanks :) How do i do that prince?
[01:28] <booferbill> hello
[01:29]  * TurtleOfDoom waves hi
[01:29] <icesword> !source.lst
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source.lst - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <booferbill> need a little help
[01:29] <endo> I want to hook my computer up to my LCD TV through VGA but when I do, the tv says unsupported mode, how can I fix this?!
[01:29]  * root----- wiats
[01:29] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: first, we need to know the device.  it is in the form of /dev/something ..  do you know what the device is for this partition?
[01:29] <spudratic0> ubotu what is the main chat room to talk to other ubuntu users
[01:29] <TurtleOfDoom> booferbill: feel free to just ask the question
[01:29] <LjL> spudratic0: what do you think?
[01:29] <kplaxmaster> how do i get the flash player for 7.10 x64? can anyone help me or is the only place to get the fix on launchpad?
[01:29] <lordmorgoth> hey guys, i just want to know since i started using linux n ubuntu i really missed itunes. amarok is nice but the integration within the GTK gnome is messed up i can't even change the theme. any other programs that can rival amarok n itumes ?
[01:30] <WarBird__> endo: the TV probably doesnt support the resolution, so try changing it
[01:30] <spudratic0> LjL i don't know what to think lol
[01:30] <anthony> spudratic0: For support, this one.  For chatting, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:30] <spudratic0> antony thanks
[01:30] <booferbill> i just put ubuntu server 7.10 on my laptop and went through all the install steps and when i reloaded the laptop it said PANIC: CPU too old for kernel
[01:30] <HaXiT> "/media/disk"
[01:30] <two_bits> joecurlee: you can find your sound card information by typing "aplay -l" into the console
[01:30] <endo> WarBird__: I tried that, did the lowest one and it doesn't work. The login screen comes up but as soon as I boot into gnome it goes unsupported mode
[01:30] <icesword> Areslp, less /etc/apt/source.lst
[01:30] <joecurlee> ok checking
[01:30] <booferbill> do i need to try to find an older version
[01:30] <__Oz__> feh
[01:31] <TurtleOfDoom> booferbill: is there a reason you're trying to use server instead of desktop?
[01:31] <icesword> anyone use virtualbox to virtualize macos x 10.5.1 successfully
[01:31] <AdamNess> ooc
[01:31] <vix> Agent_bob, thanks but thats for restoring grub after a windows installation.. is that the same as reinstalling the whole grub?
[01:31] <DianaIsGod> how do I set my DNS to 4.2.2.2 where it will stay? Everytime I set it it changes back the next time I restart my computer
[01:31] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: type the following in a terminal: sudo fdisk -l  ---- what devices (/dev/blah) are ext3?
[01:31] <bohu> hey y'all
[01:31] <norv> does anyone know a way to replace the gtk file chooser or gnome file chooser (slightly less important) with KDE's, so I get kio-slaves everywhere?
[01:31] <vix> cause the problem isnt windows, its the grub itself.
[01:31] <Agent_bob> root----- the symlink /usr/bin/x-session-manager   or something like that    controls what startx starts.    or either what ?dm starts...  one or the other.   anyway   readlink -f /usr/bin/x-<hit the tab key for a list>
[01:32] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: sudo fdisk -l
[01:32] <LjL> DianaIsGod: that's a good question... my solution was to disable resolvconf and network-manager, but that's hardly a recommended way
[01:32] <WarBird__> endo: then I don't know, sorry. Maybe you could try using different video drivers
[01:32] <booferbill> yes i currently bought a internet game that runs on LAMP and my programmer friend said it is best if i can get the server version so i know how to deal with server level problems that may arise in the game
[01:32] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: /dev/sda1-5
[01:32] <Kalamansi> I'm having trouble installing it into parallels for mac.  It requires a disk image?
[01:32] <endo> I want to hook my computer up to my LCD TV through VGA but when I do, the tv says unsupported mode, how can I fix this?!
[01:32] <Agent_bob> root----- i can't be more specific about that right now.  i don't have x installed.
[01:32] <root-----> Agent_bob ok
[01:32] <joecurlee> two_bits: card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Deubdevice #0: subdevice #0"
[01:32] <two_bits> joecurlee: my guess is that if it's integrated it's going to be an "HDA" something or other?
[01:32] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: you mean /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 ... thru 5 ?
[01:32] <DianaIsGod> LjL could you walk me through that?
[01:32] <HaXiT> sda1 is boot
[01:32] <DianaIsGod> pm?
[01:32] <joecurlee> two_bits: card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Deubdevice #0: subdevice #0"
[01:32] <HaXiT> ya
[01:32] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: ya
[01:33] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: one of those is the partition you want to mount
[01:33] <joecurlee> two_bits: so yea, hda
[01:33] <natlinuxnewb> endo:  can you further describe the situation?
[01:33] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: type ::    cat /etc/fstab  and pastebin the contents.  do you know how to pastebin?
[01:33] <LjL> DianaIsGod, i'm not sure i quite remember what i did exactly. but it was most likely along the lines of sudo apt-get remove resolvconf network-manager (if i recall correctly, both are just recommended packages, not dependencies of ubuntu-desktop, so APT shouldn't complain too much).
[01:34] <endo> natlinuxnewb: I plug my computer into the tv via vga. the login screen comes up and then right when I boot into gnome the tv displays unsupported mode
[01:34] <two_bits> joecurlee: my guess is that it's an HDA Intel card, which is notorious for problems... theres actually an entire entry in the wiki on how to get sound from it. I solved mine by upgrading from alsa 1.0.14 to 1.0.16
[01:34] <endo> natlinuxnewb: i've tried messing with the resolutions, no luck...even the refresh rate...I can't figure it out
[01:34] <two_bits> so that what i recommend for you
[01:34] <prince_jammys> !paste | HaXiT
[01:34] <ubotu> HaXiT: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: ya
[01:34] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: i know
[01:34] <natlinuxnewb> What model and serial number is your tv?
[01:34] <DianaIsGod> hmmm, is there any other way to keep the DNS saved without killing those packages?
[01:35] <joecurlee> two_bits: np i'll upgrade but I'm not seeing where to do this from, also i don't think it's intel as this is an amd board
[01:35] <Kalamansi> hello I'm having trouble installing it into parallels for mac.  It requires a disk image?
[01:35] <joecurlee> two_bits: also I'm getting audio just fine from all other sources
[01:35] <natlinuxnewb> endo And what do you mean via vga? the rca plugs?
[01:35] <two_bits> joecurlee: I am using an AMD board too, strangely enough
[01:35] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56681/
[01:35] <two_bits> joecurlee: oh? just not from mythTV?
[01:35] <joecurlee> two_bits: that's weird about the board... yes mythtv is basically the only trouble spot right now
[01:35] <heartsblood> how would one go about playing *.rm files?
[01:35] <endo> natlinuxnewb: no, no RCA's...straight VGA
[01:35] <endo> natlinuxnewb: http://tv.rca.com/en-US/ModelDetail.html?MN=L32WD23&nav=BySize&PC=Large
[01:36] <unagi> what do i do if wireless is my only way of connecting to the internet but the wireless doesnt obviously work out of the box on the live cd
[01:36] <heartsblood> every time I open the file I get an error saying "Couldn't find a realvideo shared library for version 4"
[01:36] <BigDaddy> hello
[01:36] <unagi> or is there a way to enable the wireless without using the media button
[01:36] <endo> natlinuxnewb: RCA- L32WD23
[01:36] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: is the partition currently mounted?
[01:36] <Agent_bob> DianaIsGod yes.    i don't remember which script is giving you the trouble but i do remember how to find out.      sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf     and reboot.   it will cause something to complain about not being able to change /etc/resolv.conf   :)
[01:36] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: yes
[01:36] <joecurlee> two_bits: in mythtv video and remote control work fine etc. and audio works from all other sources, but mythtv will not play any sound from live tv
[01:36] <natlinuxnewb> endo ah. you mean the monitor cable?
[01:36] <endo> yeah! :)
[01:36] <endo> natlinuxnewb: yeah, thats exactly what I mean
[01:36] <natlinuxnewb> endo gotcha
[01:36] <two_bits> joecurlee: maybe i can't help you then, as I had no sound at ALL... still, i guess it's worth a shot... first, though, have you checked your volume sliders?
[01:37] <joecurlee> two_bits: but I'm guessing you're right about alsa... i just have to figure out how to get it upgraded
[01:37] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: type :   mount    and pastebin
[01:37] <renato> hello
[01:37] <endo> natlinuxnewb: I gave you the wrong link actually! http://tv.rca.com/en-US/ModelDetail.html?MN=L32WD250&nav=BySize&PC=Large
[01:37] <natlinuxnewb> endo I havent had personal experience with it but lets try to figure it out together?
[01:37] <endo> that is the right one
[01:37] <joecurlee> two_bits: yea I've cranked everything up to max
[01:37] <__Oz__> r e n a t o
[01:37] <Agent_bob> DianaIsGod uh  you need to make that boot, a nosplash boot
[01:37] <endo> natlinuxnewb: i've got the patients
[01:37] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56682/
[01:37] <renato> yes
[01:37] <Agent_bob> so you can read the error message
[01:37] <endo> natlinuxnewb: through MSG?
[01:37] <natlinuxnewb> endo so what have you tried so far?
[01:37] <renato> I'm from Brazil
[01:37] <endo> can I msg?
[01:37] <natlinuxnewb> yup
[01:38] <natlinuxnewb> endo if you are registered
[01:38] <Agent_bob> so how do i get around this >>> [00000276] access_file access error: read failed (Input/output error)
[01:38] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: it doesnt seem to be mounted.
[01:38] <two_bits> joecurlee: I could send you the script i made...
[01:38] <HaXiT> well its mounted :S
[01:38] <deniz__> im trying to import .mpg files with kino but it wont work, it trys to and tries for a long time until it just doesnt work
[01:39] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: oh sorry, i see it now it's /dev/sda1
[01:39] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: do you want a ss?
[01:39] <unagi> i think my wireless card works its just not turned on because this laptop doesnt have a hard switch, how do i turn it on without the switch
[01:39] <HaXiT> sda1 is my main hd
[01:39] <HaXiT> for boot which has ubuntu
[01:39] <endo> natlinuxnewb: AH CRAP
[01:39] <endo> natlinuxnewb: not regged.
[01:39] <HaXiT> this one has nothing
[01:39] <endo> natlinuxnewb: it gets to the login screen and displays fine on the TV, then when I login to gnome it goes blank
[01:39] <endo> natlinuxnewb:  and the tv displays unsupported mode
[01:39] <endo> natlinuxnewb: i've tried messing with the resolution, and the refresh rate..both dont affect it to my knowledge
[01:40] <natlinuxnewb> endo: tried all the resolutions and refreshes?
[01:40] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: i think /dev/sda2 is your main disk .. the output shows /dev/sda1 mounted on /media/disk
[01:40] <renato> ow caramba
[01:40] <HaXiT> oh
[01:40] <HaXiT> :S really
[01:40] <HaXiT> kk
[01:40] <renato> conversa comigo porra
[01:40] <endo> natlinuxnewb: not all of them, but most...the smaller ones
[01:40] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: check it out
[01:40] <Technoid_India> Hi evryone here !!!
[01:40] <endo> natlinuxnewb: maybe I should set it to what its recommended on the page for the TV
[01:40] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: ok i see it
[01:40] <mrpockets> how does one force quit an app like Firefox?
[01:40] <jrib> !br | renato
[01:40] <ubotu> renato: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:41] <two_bits> joecurlee: there is a page on hda intel cards here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[01:41] <root-----> i had mad a backup of my os by g4l and i have the image file. i just want to overwrite the home directory with the home directory of that backup . how can i do it?
[01:41] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: ok so we got that.  now you need to create a folder where this partition will be mounted
[01:41] <joecurlee> two_bits: cool thanks!
[01:41] <jrib> mrpockets: click the X about 10 times, or type 'xkill' in a terminal and then click on firefox
[01:41] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi: Mounting a new hard-drive I get this error: sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/Hactor
[01:41] <RootyRootRootW00> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:41] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: ok :)
[01:41] <mrpockets> HAHA
[01:41] <mrpockets> thanks
[01:41] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: do :   sudo mkdir /media/name_you_want
[01:41] <jrib> RootyRootRootW00: tried specifying the filesystem?
[01:42] <hw00djohn> i've searched the forums for the type of program i'm looking for but to no avail.  I'm looking for a music creation suite with pre-loaded tracks for many instruments...ease of use is not a huge factor, my buddy and i just want to start putting some beats together
[01:42] <natlinuxnewb> endo: try that. brb my little girls has just put feltpens into the loo
[01:42] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: ok
[01:42] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib it is fat32, how do I do that?
[01:42] <jrib> !vfat > RootyRootRootW00 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:42] <Technoid_India> can anyone help me...
[01:42] <endo> natlinuxnewb: haha, no worries.
[01:42] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: what's the name?
[01:42] <RootyRootRootW00> jrib: thanks!
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> !anyone | Technoid_India
[01:42] <endo> how can I set my resolution through command?
[01:42] <ubotu> Technoid_India: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:42] <HaXiT> extra
[01:42] <two_bits> joecurlee: or you could go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:42] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: extra
[01:43] <endo> how can I set my resolution through command?
[01:43] <joecurlee> cool... just found this as well concerning drivers: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download
[01:43] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: any special permissions you want to set?
[01:44] <HaXiT> prince_jammys:
[01:44] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: no
[01:44] <endo> how do I change my resolution through the command?
[01:44] <two_bits> actually, joecurlee: follow the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto. They're better and more general
[01:45] <bloodhacker> hey guys whats up
[01:45] <Technoid_India> k....i have ubuntu installed on my worstation pc....n im planning to install it on my older pc wid very low config (P4 - 128Mb Ram - 40Gb Harddrive)....i just wanna ask will it really work on my old pc...
[01:45] <bloodhacker> i am kinds new to this
[01:45] <joecurlee> two_bits: ok trying now
[01:45] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: i have to go soon :(
[01:45] <natlinuxnewb> endo: any luck with that resolution?
[01:45] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: ok do this::    gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:46] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: ok
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: the processor on that PC should be fine, hard drive is fine, the ? is ram.
[01:46] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: opened the file, right?
[01:46] <HaXiT> yes
[01:46] <N6REJ> test
[01:46] <endo> natlinuxnewb: how can I change my resolution through command? it's not listed through system > preferences > screen resolution
[01:46]  * N6REJ test
[01:46] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: paste the following line in the file
[01:46] <endo> the resolution that I need to be on
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> !test | N6REJ
[01:46] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmm
[01:46] <ubotu> N6REJ: Failed.
[01:47] <endo> natlinuxnewb: which is 1366x768
[01:47] <jrib> !resolution > endo (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:47] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: /dev/sda1       /media/extra    ext3         defaults   0       0
[01:47] <natlinuxnewb> endo: are you going through Command atm?
[01:47] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: so..should i install ubuntu on my old pc...i will use this pc for surfing-word processing-php web devlopment only...
[01:47] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: and save it
[01:47] <HaXiT> ok
[01:47] <natlinuxnewb> endo: Heres what a part of the manual says... Viewing Devices Connected to Your TV
[01:47] <natlinuxnewb> To view devices connected to your TV, press the INPUT button to toggle through the
[01:47] <natlinuxnewb> inputs. Choose the input name that matches the input of the device you connected. Your
[01:47] <natlinuxnewb> choices are VID1, VID2, CMP1, CMP2, VGA, HDMI1, and HDMI2.
[01:47] <HaXiT> thanks
[01:48] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: i will assign 2gb swap..will this work for me ???
[01:48] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: now type umount /media/disk
[01:48] <__Oz__> Technooid India: won't you need photoshop? If so, you probably don't want to do that.  You need photoshop.
[01:48] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: is that all? thanks a lot, are you gonna be on tomorrow, cuz i need some help with my ssh
[01:48] <endo> natlinuxnewb: yup, I set it to VGA
[01:48] <natlinuxnewb> Endo: have yo uchanged the TV input to vga?
[01:48] <natlinuxnewb> ok
[01:48] <onemike> hey i have a  problem with my nfts hard drive can anyone help me out
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: its still low on memory, and it probably won't install from the Live CD, you'll need the alternate install CD
[01:48] <prince_jammys> HaXiT:  sudo
[01:48]  * sdsheeks smiles.  Finally was able to get my wireless card working.
[01:48] <HaXiT> ya
[01:48] <HaXiT> ofcourse :P
[01:48] <jrib> !ask | onemike
[01:48] <ubotu> onemike: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:48] <natlinuxnewb> endo: do you have a normal monitor?
[01:48] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: thanks man :)
[01:48] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: sudo mount /media/extra
[01:48] <N6REJ> !flash
[01:48] <two_bits> onemike: what's your problem
[01:48] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:49] <HaXiT> yay ^^
[01:49] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: i will be usin the alternate cd only...
[01:49] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: done. now will automount
[01:49] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: thank
[01:49] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: will ubuntu run on my system !!!
[01:49] <Dirty> Hey guys I'm pretty new to this stuff I've never even heard of ubuntu past two days ago and now both my systems are ubuntu
[01:49] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: np
[01:49] <Dirty> I had some minor problems, but I managed to fix them without bothering anyone
[01:49] <Dirty> anyone know where i can read about command line?
[01:49] <HaXiT> prince_jammys: ttyl :P ill see you tomorrow if your on
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: i don't know,
[01:49] <jrib> !cli > dirty (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:49] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: bye
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: a lot of things go into whether it will work or not..,
[01:49] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: so should i give it a try ???
[01:49] <HaXiT> quick question, how do i reset my session
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: thats up to you..., i would,l but thats me..
[01:50] <onemike> ok i have a ntfs secondary internal hard drive and when i delete stuff it doesnt free up any space
[01:50] <smile> hello~~
[01:50] <prince_jammys> HaXiT: don't know what you mean ... log out and back in?
[01:50] <smile> iam china boy linux fans
[01:50] <HaXiT> ok
[01:50] <smile> hello
[01:50] <HaXiT> thanks :)
[01:50] <HaXiT> bye bye
[01:50] <__Oz__> china boy linux fans?
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: but you're at the very bottom on minimum sys. requirements
[01:50] <smile> :D
[01:50] <jrib> onemike: check your Trash
[01:50] <smile> hi ~ OZ
[01:51] <prince_jammys> hi china boy
[01:51]  * zmcbb30_ 中国频道请使用中文
[01:51] <onemike> jrib: its empty
[01:51] <smile> hi ~
[01:51] <jjt009> hello
[01:51] <jjt009> anyone here
[01:51] <smile> 哦,
[01:51] <__Oz__> !chinese | zmcbb30
[01:51] <ubotu> zmcbb30: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:51] <jrib> !cn | smile, zmcbb30_
[01:51] <ubotu> smile, zmcbb30_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:51] <smile> 这个不是E文的吗?
[01:51] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: i just wanted to confirm if the 2gb swap partiton work instead of upgrading my ram...(coz sd rams r rare)
[01:51] <jjt009> ubotu: hello
[01:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:51] <jjt009> ubotu:how is it going?
[01:51] <jrib> onemike: is there a .Trash* on the drive?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: actually you can find them on Ebay for next to nothing(iv'e gotten them around $7 before), but if you're in India, that could be an issue.
[01:52] <N6REJ> test
[01:52] <onemike> yes
[01:52] <smile> 哦,知道了,I SEE, thank !!
[01:52] <Jangari> Technoid_India: i don't think the swap partition quite works like that
[01:52] <onemike> jrib: yes
[01:52] <jrib> onemike: and instide there is nothing?
[01:52] <onemike> jrib: no there is files in it
[01:52] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: thats not the issue...
[01:52] <Jangari> tel you what's rare, it seems, ddr1 ram!
[01:52] <jrib> onemike: delete them?
[01:53] <natlinuxnewb> endo wb
[01:53] <endo> WOW
[01:53] <endo> that command just set me back
[01:53] <endo> not what I was looking for
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: ok, i'm just saying, sdram can be found, quite cheap.
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> over here anyways
[01:53] <natlinuxnewb> endo which command?
[01:53] <endo> the one that someone gave me
[01:53] <endo> I forget who it was now
[01:53] <onemike> jrib: i just did still didnt work
[01:54] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: ya thats true...so i need to ubgrade my ram ???
[01:54] <jrib> onemike: how are you determining that?
[01:54] <endo> natlinuxnewb: we need to figure out how to set the resolution to the right one
[01:54] <endo> I think that will fix the problem
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: *I* would.., cuz like i said, that 128mb, you're on the very bottom, and if your system is accessing swap w/ regularity, your system is gonna be slow as a snail
[01:55] <smile>  谁会中文吗??
[01:55] <natlinuxnewb> endo. You considered vga to RCA (or other methods) adaptors?
[01:55] <onemike> when i go to properties it says the hard drive is full but there should be close to 100GB free
[01:55] <__Oz__> Technoid_India: if anything, install Xubuntu.
[01:55] <icesword> smile, u ?
[01:55] <jrib> endo: the wiki page tells you how to set custom resolutions.  You need to be more specific as to what you are trying to do, what you did, and what the result was
[01:55] <__Oz__> It's the only thing which will work OK with that tiny amt. of ram.
[01:55] <endo> natlinuxnewb: nah, want to stay away
[01:55] <smile> I ?
[01:55] <icesword> smile, from china
[01:55] <endo> jrib: no problem...can you link me to how I can set my own custom resolution brother? :)
[01:55] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: one morr question...i have read somewher ther is a special version of ubuntu called ubuntu studio...
[01:55] <smile> YES
[01:56] <endo> natlinuxnewb: that is me, yes!
[01:56] <jrib> !resolution > endo (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:56] <Devourer> Where is the include folder by default for gcc?
[01:56] <onemike> jrib: when i go to properties it says the hard drive is full but there should be close to 100GB free
[01:56] <smile> china
[01:56] <doku> can someone tell me the best method of recovering data from an ide hdd
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: its special all right.
[01:56] <dannyboy> how do i edit my grub conf file?
[01:56] <endo> jrib: just tells me how to restart x
[01:56] <icesword> smile, #ubuntu-cn
[01:56] <jrib> endo: click on the link
[01:56] <Technoid_India> __Oz__: Xubuntu is a variant of ubuntu ???
[01:56] <smile> i like EN ,:D
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: yes.., you coul try Xubuntu.., its kinda like Gnome.
[01:56] <icesword> dannyboy, what is wrong
[01:56] <jrib> dannyboy: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: http://www.xubuntu.org   i'd actually forgotten about it.
[01:57] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: so wher can i get this ubuntu studio....
[01:57] <__Oz__> Technoid_India: yes, and it's ideal for low-memory applications.
[01:57] <endo> jrib: duh, thanks :P
[01:57] <endo> I just need to set my resolution to 1366x768
[01:57] <DG19075> xubuntu|Technoid_india
[01:57] <dannyboy> icesword: im trying to locate my grub.conf so i can edit it
[01:57] <jrib> onemike: use 'du -sh /path/to/mounted/partition' to determine the used space
[01:57] <__Oz__> keep going, endo.  Keep going!
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: no clue, i don't mess with it.. but Xubuntu is a good suggestion, id' forgotten about it.
[01:57] <icesword> smile, your english seems very good,how do you do that
[01:57] <__Oz__> xubuntu | Technoid_India
[01:57] <__Oz__> !xubuntu | Technoid_India
[01:57] <ubotu> Technoid_India: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[01:57] <prince_jammys> !ubuntustudio | Technoid_India
[01:57] <ubotu> Technoid_India: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[01:57] <dannyboy> icesword: because when i load ubuntu i have to type in special booting options everytime
[01:58] <joecurlee> two_bits: trying to configure alsa-utils and getting error "this packages requires a curses library"
[01:58] <joecurlee> two_bits: any ideas?
[01:58] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: __Oz__: does xubuntu have a gnome interface like ubuntu !!1
[01:58] <two_bits> joecurlee: sudo apt-get install ncurses-dev
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: no, it uses Gnome
[01:58] <onemike> jrib: ok i reloaded it and .trash came back and when i opened the folder and delete everything again it worked is there anyway to delete stuff without having to go through all that again
[01:58] <__Oz__> technoid: no
[01:58] <joecurlee> thanks
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: no, i tuses Xfce, instead of gnome..
[01:58] <__Oz__> Technoid_India: it uses Xcfe.  But it is similar to how ubunut/gnome works.
[01:58] <jrib> onemike: in  edit -> preferences -> behavior  you can setup a Delete command to bypass the trash
[01:58] <__Oz__> Xubuntu is a nice, lightweight OS.  Actually, with 128mb of RAM, Technoid_India, you might want to go with Puppy Linux.
[01:58] <Devourer> Where can I edit my sound options such as computer beep?
[01:59] <endo> __Oz__: this is tough
[01:59] <N6REJ> !flash
[01:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: go to http://www.xubuntu.org and look at the screenshots, they're similar, but not exactly
[01:59] <onemike> jrib ok thank you
[01:59] <__Oz__> Unfortunately, the epidemic "tiny fonts problem" and lack of built-in VNC support make Xubuntu an incomplete offering.
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> !flashissue | N6REJ if you're using Gutsy....
[01:59] <ubotu> N6REJ if you're using Gutsy....: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[01:59] <__Oz__> I really like what Xubuntu is supposed to be.  It's just not there yet...
[02:00] <dannyboy_> where is the grub.conf located?
[02:00] <endo> jrib: I followed the link..I just dont know how im going to run these commands with my tv hooked up and no display to see anything
[02:00] <jrib> dannyboy: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <Technoid_India> k THANX EVERYONE HERE !!!
[02:00] <rsa_md5> I forgot to select a save location for qtorrent and instead selected auto save......now i cant find the downloaded files
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> __Oz__: i like it.., i use it on an old PC i have
[02:00] <N6REJ_> how do you turn off ignore in chatzilla?
[02:00] <root------> i made a backup file by g4l . now  i just want to overwrite the home directory . how can i do it?
[02:00] <icesword> why not use xchat
[02:00] <jrib> endo: borrow a monitor and set up ssh?
[02:01] <prince_jammys> root------: why are you overwriting your home?
[02:01] <N6REJ_> i will it I can get it to work right.... I dont'want to see all the loginś and out
[02:01] <endo> I have a monitor and a TV
[02:01] <N6REJ_> and no sound alerts so far
[02:01] <Technoid_India> i would like to introduce to a new multi protocol messenger.... checkout this link >>> www.digsby.com <<< :);-)
[02:01] <endo> but, i'd need two computers wouldn't I in order to do that?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: uh, so turn that feature off.
[02:01] <root------> prince_jammys want the same configs and setings
[02:01] <jrib> endo: you have no display on the monitor?
[02:01] <booferbill> need a little help with ubuntu server 7.1
[02:01] <endo> yeah, display on my monitor right now
[02:01] <jrib> endo: I don't understand the problem
[02:01] <endo> but, the monitor and the TV both use VGA
[02:01] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: how?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: you set the sound options manually, its pretty easy.. but i prefer xchat-gnome..
[02:02] <endo> so I can't run the autodetect scripts while the tv is hooked up
[02:02] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: i think thats what i using let me look
[02:02] <endo> and that is what I need to do
[02:02] <dannyboy_> where is grub.conf located?
[02:02] <smile> My English is not good .. I just want to learn English.
[02:02] <endo> but, I get no display on the tv
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: if you're using xchat-gnome, then setting up sound is easy
[02:02] <natlinuxnewb> endo: what is your graphics card?
[02:02] <endo> natlinuxnewb: ATI Raiden 9600
[02:03] <jrib> smile: this channel is for help with ubuntu.  You can get help with english in ##english
[02:03] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: yeah i am, i have xchat-gnome and xchat-gnome-common
[02:03] <joecurlee> two_bits: holy crap
[02:03] <SecretLine> laggggggggggg
[02:03] <endo> natlinuxnewb: ATI Raideon 9600
[02:03] <joecurlee> two_bits: i guess my sound wasn't working for real this whole time
[02:03] <banananana> so, is it ok to remove ubuntu-desktop? there are a lot of things I don't need on my eeepc
[02:03] <two_bits> joecurlee: It works? It exploded?
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: ok, are you here under xchat-gnome, or chatzilla.
[02:03] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: both
[02:03] <root------> prince_jammys want the same configs and setings
[02:03] <smile> Who is Domino download the linux address?
[02:03] <two_bits> joecurlee: oh it works then
[02:03] <joecurlee> two_bits: didn't test mythtv yet but i had login music for the first time
[02:03] <joecurlee> lol
[02:04] <natlinuxnewb> endo: Pal or NTSC TV?
[02:04] <prince_jammys> root------: the same settings as what?
[02:04] <endo> NTSC
[02:04] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: the chatzilla one is hiding everything :(
[02:04] <SecretLine> someone knows how to make ATI radeon x300 take more than 1500 fps?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: ok, and you want xchat-gnome to hide everything?
[02:04] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: someone told me to type /ignore *!*@* and I did :(
[02:04] <joecurlee> two_bits: hmmm no sound via mythtv still
[02:04] <ComradeMirror> I have a question
[02:04] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: no, just conference mode
[02:04] <ComradeMirror> what is super tab?
[02:04] <safiyyah> videos online not loading from this site,http://www.ninjavideo.net/ .. what is missing?
[02:04] <natlinuxnewb> endo: check this out. http://www.nabble.com/TV-out-through-VGA--ATI-X1400-with-fglrx-driver-td14787605.html
[02:04] <__Oz__> N6REJ: you fly?
[02:04] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: i think i have it set temporarily
[02:04] <Pricey> ComradeMirror, the windows key + the tab key
[02:04] <ComradeMirror> ah
[02:04] <ComradeMirror> thanks
[02:05] <N6REJ_> __Oz__ close, i am a ham
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: conference mode?.. never tried that
[02:05] <__Oz__> Very good.  Speak pig latin?
[02:05] <Technoid_India> Hey Everyone Check this Link >>> www.digsby.com <<<
[02:05]  * N6REJ_ wth you cant do a apostrophe?
[02:05] <__Oz__> NO, Technoid_India
[02:05] <N6REJ_> __Oz__ nope
[02:05] <Technoid_India> __Oz__: just check it bro...
[02:05] <two_bits> joecurlee: damn... I'm out of ideas... try /join ing #ubuntu-mythtv
[02:05] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: ok I want sound from the speakers not the pc, and I want all joins and such hidden
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: why would we do that?...
[02:06]  * N6REJ_ cant type cant properly :(
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: well, i know in xchat-gnome, thats easy to set.
[02:06] <__Oz__> Don't try to infect our linuxes with virii, Technoid_India
[02:06] <hzalai> how about endgame screensaver , on my laptop,it make busy,and crash my computer
[02:06] <natlinuxnewb> endo: Read this also
[02:06] <natlinuxnewb> http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1041460
[02:06] <smile> 	
[02:06] <smile> We all come from?
[02:06] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: k...its ur wish..i just wanted to do a favour..
[02:06] <__Oz__> smile: we are all made of stars
[02:06] <endo> THANK YOU BROTHER!!! :D
[02:06] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: kk thats fine, im just used to chatzill and if xchat don´t stop filter my ´ i´m going to get mad lol
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: well, most of us don't like being spammed here.
[02:07] <booferbill> does anyone know about ubuntu server
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: there's a way to do it, i jsut can't remember how.
[02:07] <__Oz__> IndyGunFreak: you a handgunner or a rifle man?
[02:07] <Technoid_India> __Oz__: no no...dont get me wrong...
[02:07] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: ok lets just worry about xchat for now... drive on
[02:07] <N6REJ_> booferbill: what about it?
[02:07] <smile> what is stars ?
[02:07] <Technoid_India> __Oz__: IndyGunFreak: k SORRY for that....
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> __Oz__: we'll get banned for talking that stuff here, PM me.
[02:07] <N6REJ_> ubotu tell booferbill about !server
[02:08] <booferbill> n6rej: need to find out what i can do to get rid of this error
[02:08] <N6REJ_> !server booferbill
[02:08] <root------> configs. desktop settings are gone... thts in the home folder right?. i had made a backup of all the drive. and that had the home folder that had my configs in the way i want. now i want to overrite my current home folder by that g4l backup.
[02:08] <two_bits> joecurlee: I'm out of ideas. Try the folks in #ubuntu-mythtv
[02:08] <booferbill> !server
[02:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[02:08] <omar_> hey guys firefox is being a pain, while playing videos it suddenly pauses the videos, then speeds them up for a second or 2
[02:08] <omar_> then goes back to normal
[02:08] <omar_> and repeats
[02:08] <booferbill> thank you
[02:08] <omar_> any idea whats going on?
[02:08] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: lol you can´t help me get sound working?
[02:08] <N6REJ_> booferbill: np
[02:09] <natlinuxnewb> endo: more homework :) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-62625.html
[02:09] <Pelo> omar_,  flash videos ?
[02:09] <omar_> yes
[02:09] <omar_> mostly ones on youtube
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> N6REJ_: sound working in what?
[02:09] <N6REJ_> omar_: its not FF
[02:09] <omar_> then any idea what can be causing the problem?
[02:10] <Starnestommy> omar_: it's playing the video faster than it can load it
[02:10] <root------> ok. how can i browse and copy compressed files containing data?
[02:10] <N6REJ_> IndyGunFreak: well i´m not quite sure yet.... I KNOW i have no sound when you alert me... and I THINK i got sound now in the card itself... This is a new install of Studio
[02:10] <N6REJ_> omar_: increase the buffer
[02:10] <natlinuxnewb> endo: Let us know if that works
[02:10] <omar_> which buffer?
[02:10] <Pelo> omar_, it's pausing because it needs to fill the buffer,  the speeding up is a bit of a bug,  I suggest you pause the video when it starts downloading and play it only when the dl bar is filed up, you'll get a smoother play,  this also happens occasionnaly in windows, it isn't just FF in Linux
[02:10] <N6REJ_> omar_: the video buffer
[02:10] <unagi> how do you play a dvd from .iso with menus
[02:11] <N6REJ_> omar_: you can tell it to dl the whole thing before it plays
[02:11] <omar_> oh ok thank you guys.
[02:11] <endo> natlinuxnewb: i'll post it on the forums :)
[02:11] <two_bits> Is there a decent program to mount .iso files?
[02:11] <Pelo> unagi, you don't , not with menues,  you unpack it and play the ..VOB files
[02:11] <soulburner> anyone saavy with ushare?
[02:11] <endo> thanks for the help everyone! much appriciated!!
[02:11] <two_bits> a virtual drive program so to speak?
[02:11] <Pelo> !iso > two_bits check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:11] <vix> my friend installed ubuntu 7.10 x64 through alternate cd, but now he gets a blackscreen when he tries to boot ubuntu, propably cause of nvidia drivers for the system. is there any way to access the text mode?
[02:11] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: frm wher i can download ubuntu studio ???
[02:11] <root------> how can i browse and copy bzip2 compressed files?
[02:12] <two_bits> Pelo: thanks
[02:12] <unagi> Pelo: i dont really understand that........why cant you mount an iso to act like a hard dvd
[02:12] <Pelo> vix, not sure there is a nvidia driver for amd64,  tell him to install the i386 version, he'll have less problems with drivers and such
[02:12] <N6REJ_> Technoid_India: its on the main website.
[02:12] <ComradeMirror> Is there anyway I can enable japanese
[02:12] <ComradeMirror> so I can type in it?
[02:12] <ComradeMirror> I need it for class x.x
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: i told you id ont' know, i don't mess with it.
[02:13] <vix> Pelo, its because he got an 64 Bit processor, and also 4GB RAM.
[02:13] <Pelo> !iso > unagi try it with this see if you can manage it with vlc , xine or mplayer
[02:13] <omar_> sorry about this stupid question but, where exactly would I find the video buffer?
[02:14] <unagi> Pelo: vlc and xine both want to open it like a folder playing the vob........is there not a way for kubuntu to see the iso like a disc
[02:14] <Pelo> vix,  you can use i386 with a 64 bit processor and with 4 gb of ram no problem,  but amd64 is still lacking in propriatary driver support and in small stuff like flash and other tidbits
[02:14] <Pelo> unagi, mounting the iso should see it as a volume I think
[02:14] <Pelo> !iso > unagi check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:14] <N6REJ_> Pelo: i´m using 64bit studio right now and having a flash problem, is the normal for 64bit?
[02:14] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to make Flash work and KEEP working? This is really pissing me off now.
[02:14] <unagi> it doesnt see it as a volume Pelo it sees it as a folder
[02:15] <vix> Pelo, yes I know.. but how much memory will 32bit Ubuntu use? its like 3.5GB or something?
[02:15] <SystemBomber> Hello all, I have a little problem if someone can help me please. I'm running Ubuntu Server (latest v - Gutsy), its a headless machine which i SSH into, no GUI, however when I press the on/off button on the machine, it doesn't do anything.
[02:15] <Pelo> N6REJ_, I beleive so ,  but I've never used 64 bit os, so I can'T confirm for sure
[02:15] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: xubuntu luks like ubuntu...
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: no it doesn't
[02:15] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak: its really cooool man...
[02:15] <N6REJ_> SystemBomber: go into bios and turn off ALL stop on error... its probably looking for a kbd
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: if you can't see the differences in the two.. wel. but there are differences, they are just subtle
[02:15] <N6REJ_> Pelo: dang it!!
[02:15] <Pelo> vix, not sure i get your question,  it should be able to use all the memory you have,
[02:15] <Technoid_India> IndyGunFreak:  i just saw it on www.xubuntu.com
[02:16] <N6REJ_> Pelo: that means another reinstall... *sigh*
[02:16]  * N6REJ_ new that would happen... FARTS
[02:16] <iDivine> #join backtrack
[02:16] <iDivine> ;(
[02:16] <two_bits> joecurlee: any luck with mythtv?
[02:16] <unagi> does anyone know how to play dvd .iso in ubuntu?
[02:16] <Pelo> N6REJ_, I enjoy reinstalling ubuntu, it only takes 30 min
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> Technoid_India: well, then yo need to compare screenshots, cuz they are different..., i've used both,
[02:16] <iDivine> What's the backtrack channel?..
[02:16] <N6REJ_> Technoid_India: it uses the RTL kernel, that is the main diff
[02:16] <killown> I have installed ubuntu gusty and install restricted modules nvidia but my card not works when I change device "nv" to "nvidia" can anyone help me?
[02:16] <SystemBomber> N6REJ_, why would not having a keyboard prevent it from starting the shutdown sequence when i press the on/off button?
[02:16] <pocketdrummer> !flash
[02:16] <N6REJ_> Pelo: yeah, just gets old lol
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:17] <Pelo> N6REJ_, just put your /home flolder on a seperate partiton and you will recover all you settings
[02:17] <Djerodek> Hello, I'm looking to run an Ubuntu Live CD and I'm running into trouble
[02:17] <N6REJ_> SystemBomber: because its a failure in the post test.  You have to tell the bios to ignore those failures, its ez to do just take 5 sec
[02:17] <Djerodek> Anyone know anything about running it on an HP laptop?
[02:17] <Pelo> Djerodek, explain the trouble
[02:17] <SystemBomber> N6REJ, but it starts up fine.
[02:17] <vix> Pelo, cause windows 32 bit, doesnt use all memory if you have 4GB, just in x64 windows.
[02:17] <N6REJ_> Pelo: yeah, well this is a clean install so really nbd
[02:17] <Technoid_India> Djerodek: ???
[02:17] <SystemBomber> N6REJ_*
[02:18] <vix> Pelo, I dont know how Ubuntu uses it.
[02:18] <Pelo> Djerodek, details are better then just asking for someone with knowledge of your model
[02:18] <Djerodek> When I run the AMD 64-bit ubuntu install on my pavillion dv6308ca it hangs
[02:18] <Pelo> vix,  linux isn'T windows
[02:18] <Djerodek> When it tries to install th drivers it hangs
[02:18] <Djerodek> No more CD activity and no more progress
[02:19] <Pelo> Djerodek, use the i386 version unless you have actual need of 64 bit system,  you'll have less problems iwth dirvers and tibits like flash
[02:19] <Pelo> Djerodek, what video card does your comp have ?
[02:19] <Djerodek> nVidia 6150go
[02:19] <vix> Pelo, I know, but 32 bit operating system is the same i think.
[02:20] <Djerodek> And I figured the i386 might be a better idea, so I started downloading it before coming here, but I decided to come on to check, just in case
[02:20] <N6REJ_> back in a while after i reinstall
[02:21] <unagi> does ubuntu  not know how to play .iso dvds?
[02:21] <Pelo> Djerodek, it you are using an nvidia card you might want to get the alternate install cd ,
[02:21] <Pelo> unagi, check in the forum
[02:21] <pocketdrummer> Is the 64-bit Flash just buggy or something? Does anyone know?
[02:21] <matt____> Hello everyone. I've written a tutorial on ripping a DVD to and iPod. I want it to be as easy as possible, so if you would be interested in going over this with me and telling me if you have ran into anything that isn't right or could use improvement, please take a look at this: http://linuxhack3r.com/ipod.html Suggestions can go the email at the bottom of the page, or you can personally email me and we can AIM or something to really
[02:21] <matt____> http://linuxhack3r.com/ipod.html
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> !flash64 | pocketdrummer
[02:21] <ubotu> pocketdrummer: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:22] <Djerodek> nVidia doesn't work with the livecd?
[02:22] <Pelo> Djerodek, depends on the model
[02:22] <Ububegin> how can i combine the commands ... **cd** and **ls** together...
[02:22] <vix> Pelo, thnx anyway for your tip. I recommend him to try 32 bits instead now.
[02:22] <Pelo> Ububegin, cd /patch && ls
[02:22] <zorce> hello Pelo and vix reinstalling in progress
[02:23] <Pelo> Ububegin, I meant path , not patch
[02:23] <Djerodek> Thanks to everyone, I'll give it a shot
[02:23] <mike_> hi all i just installed mysql can someone help me start it
[02:23] <omar_> can't figure out where I change the video buffer from, any ideas?
[02:23] <Ububegin> Pelo: i mean more like combining them and making a new command like **cdls** or sumthing like that...
[02:24] <Pelo> omar_,  you don't realy need to change the video buffer,  just wait for the vid to dl before playing it
[02:24] <martin__> unagi: i havent used it but there is a gmount-iso package in the repos
[02:24] <sucklefish> I am new to linux and i was hoping i might be able to revieve some help on dual booting my pc.
[02:24] <Pelo> Ububegin, no idea
[02:24] <omar_> I do wait for them to download, it's fully buffered.
[02:24] <icesword> !dualboot | sucklefish
[02:24] <ubotu> sucklefish: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:24] <Pelo> omar_, yes
[02:24] <Ububegin> Pelo: hmm, thanks.... if i get the answer, i will let ya know
[02:24] <Pelo> sucklefish, when you install ubuntu , it will make a boot menu with all the available OS listed on it
[02:24] <root------> what is the command to extract a bzip2 file to a specified locations?
[02:25] <omar_> the problem is when it comes to play the video, it suddenly pauses it then skips a few seconds of the video then it plays it normally
[02:25] <two_bits> is there a way to get a list of the things ububot knows?
[02:25] <Pelo> root------,  man untar
[02:25] <root------> k
[02:25] <icesword> root------, did you man bzip2
[02:25] <root------> no
[02:25] <Pelo> omar_,  the skipping is a bug, it is trying to play catchup
[02:25] <two_bits> i mean, ubotu
[02:25] <credible> !brain | two_bits
[02:25] <ubotu> two_bits: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:25] <Pelo> !ubotu | two_bits
[02:26] <omar_> oh ok, so any idea how I would be able to fix it, or is it possible?
[02:26] <sucklefish> Ok, one more question. Off the top of your head do you know if it is possible to boot ubuntu from a usb flash drive?
[02:26] <martin__> two_bits: http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <Pelo> omar_, you can't fix it
[02:26] <iDivine> Well, I just burned the back track 2 iso on a cd, and When I go to log in it works, till I have to type in a command, I type it in but, It doesn't start up. It just hangs a a black screen..... ;(
[02:26] <two_bits> thanks all
[02:26] <unagi> interesting
[02:26] <omar_> it's only with firefox right?
[02:26] <unagi> i installed gmountiso but the command gmountiso doesnt do anything
[02:26] <barichardson> I just added a wwan adapter to my laptop; I was able to determine the vendor and device ids with lsusb, but I need to know how to determine what /dev point the device it is using. Any ideas?
[02:26] <natlinuxnewb> sucklefish: Yes
[02:26] <Pelo> omar_, this has noting to do with FF
[02:26] <Hammer89> sucklefish: it's possible... but your bios has to have a boot from usb option
[02:27] <sucklefish> it does, thank you. I will be back if i need more help. :D thanks
[02:27] <icesword> everything is possible
[02:27] <omar_> ok, well I have to go now, thanks for the info.
[02:27] <hilikus> hey guys. im using gutsy and an nvidia geforce 5200 video card and i,m trying to get tvout as my ONLY display, but its not working, when ubuntu starts, the screen stays dark
[02:27] <root------> icesword cant get it. how to extract it else where?
[02:27] <Ububegin> Pelo: just found it... here u go.. define this in the .bashrc file ***cdls() { cd "$1"; ls; }***
[02:28] <hilikus> any idea how can i confiure it?
[02:28] <iDivine> Well, I just burned the back track 2 iso on a cd, and When I go to log in it works, till I have to type in a command, I type it in but, It doesn't start up. It just hangs a a black screen..... ;(
[02:28] <matt____> Hello everyone. I've written a tutorial on ripping a DVD to and iPod. I want it to be as easy as possible, so if you would be interested in going over this with me and telling me if you have ran into anything that isn't right or could use improvement, please take a look at this: http://linuxhack3r.com/ipod.html Suggestions can go the email at the bottom of the page, or you can personally email me and we can AIM or something to really
[02:28] <matt____> http://linuxhack3r.com/ipod.html
[02:28] <two_bits> hey matt__: we heard you the first time!
[02:28] <Pelo> omar_,  here is the long eplanation,  youtube plays thje videos as it is downloading them,  when a video is popular or if you have a low bandwith connection,  you are watching the video faster then you are downloading it ,  which is why it stops,  then you download a bit more and it starts again, occasionnaly flash decids to play catchup and  you get that fast forward bit
[02:28] <martin__> unagi: open it using the menu if you cant via cli. Is under system tools
[02:28] <icesword> root------, maybe it is bunzip2  -C /somewhere *.bz2
[02:28] <natlinuxnewb> !oog
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <natlinuxnewb> !ogg
[02:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <martin__> unagi: select the mount point and the iso file to mount there
[02:29] <unagi> im on  kubuntu
[02:29] <icesword> martin__, where are u ?
[02:29] <Pelo> unagi, go ask in #kubuntu then
[02:30] <unagi> i have
[02:30] <martin__> icesword: as in the world?
[02:30]  * Pelo is starting to wich unagi would just burn the damn thing 
[02:30] <root------> icesword no. how to extract
[02:30] <icesword> martin__, ?
[02:30]  * unagi is starting to wish pelo would use the ignore function
[02:30]  * Pelo invents a new game "Where in the world is martin__ "
[02:30] <icesword> root------, you want to extract what file
[02:30] <natlinuxnewb> Anyone hoe I can boost the sound in ubuntu?
[02:31] <martin__> im confused :/
[02:31] <natlinuxnewb> *anyone know how I can boost the sound
[02:31] <icesword> !sound
[02:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:31] <Pelo> natlinuxnewb, type  alsamixer in the terminal and make sure all the sliders are up
[02:31] <mneptok> natlinuxnewb: what did you call me?
[02:31] <icesword> martin__, i am just curious where are u from
[02:32] <iDivine> Well, I just burned the back track 2 iso on a cd, and When I go to log in it works, till I have to type in a command, I type it in but, It doesn't start up. It just hangs a a black screen..... ;(
[02:32] <martin__> icesword: im from Ireland
[02:32] <Pelo> iDivine, back track 2 ?
[02:32] <iDivine> Pelo, Yes,
[02:32] <icesword> martin__, i got a friend who had a same name with you,so i am just curious
[02:33] <Pelo> iDivine, I mean what is "back track 2" ?
[02:33]  * mneptok throws a hurley and directions to #ubuntu-offtopic at martin__ and icesword 
[02:33] <natlinuxnewb> I need to boost them even more
[02:33] <iter_> security testing distro, it's the wrong channel
[02:33] <icesword> :(
[02:33] <iDivine> pelo, Isn't it a distro? http://www.remote-exploit.org/
[02:33] <Pelo> natlinuxnewb, check in that !sound info
[02:33] <natlinuxnewb> !sound
[02:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:34] <dolphin_noel> someone knows any idea what is it for the dve and dbe module in xorg.conf ?!
[02:34] <Pelo> iDivine, did you copy the .iso file to the cd or did you "burn image" ?
[02:34] <iDivine> pelo, I burned image.
[02:34] <iter> you can login as root/toor ?
[02:34] <icesword> root------, ？
[02:34] <mneptok> iDivine: problems with Backtrack are not supported in #ubuntu
[02:34] <Pelo> iDivine,  I recommend you check their faq their forum or see ifthey have a channel
[02:35] <bobby_> welp
[02:35] <natlinuxnewb> thanks pelo
[02:35] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, I think you need a more detailed question
[02:35] <Pelo> epssy, more details please
[02:35] <root-----> bzip2: Can't guess original name for klast.000 -- using klast.000.out
[02:36] <gyaresu> I manually installed the nvidia 1.0-7185 driver. I re-installed the default 169.09 driver but now when I reboot I have to 'modprobe -r nvidia' then 'modprobe nvidia' to get the 169 version loaded. How can I get rid of the other one?
[02:36] <dolphin_noel> Pelo well i was just thinking why i need this modules and what they are for ... the dve and dbe module in xorg.conf if it is really necessary i load it or is good i load it
[02:37] <epssy> nvidia-settings uninstall
[02:37] <icesword> root-----,what are u trying to do?
[02:37] <Pelo> gyaresu, try and blacklise the one you donT' want from modprobe,  man modprobe for the exact option
[02:37] <root-----> icesword extract a bzip2 file.............\
[02:37] <Waffle> where is firefox installed? What is the path?
[02:37] <epssy> no, remove your original manual install with nvidia-settings uninstall, if it isn't uninstall man nvidia-settings to find out what it is
[02:37] <gyaresu> Pelo: cheers but they are both nvidia.ko So I'm not sure how to blacklist it.
[02:37] <epssy> if you just remove the module you'll still have conflicting files
[02:38] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, I think that regarding modules in xorg,  you onjly need to list them in the module sectiosn ( near the top of the file) once they are installed
[02:38] <epssy> gyaresu: ffs I've given you the answer
[02:38] <Pelo> gyaresu, ins't there a differnce in the name ?
[02:38] <icesword> root-----,did u run man bzip2 in terminal
[02:38] <Pelo> gyaresu, ignore me
[02:38] <epssy> DO NOT BLACK LIST IT, remove it properly or you will have further issues
[02:39] <Pelo> epssy, he needs to know how to remove it
[02:39] <root-----> icesword i compres by app caled g4l
[02:39] <epssy> I've told him several times now
[02:39] <epssy> nvidia-settings uninstall
[02:39] <gyaresu> epssy: You didn't use my nick. I wasn't reading the whole lot and you know where you can stick your rudeness. I help here all the time and very rarely need help myself. You sir are out of order.
[02:39] <dolphin_noel> Pelo i know how to load they i just don`t know what they are for the dve and dbe module ... in xorg.conf
[02:39] <epssy> gyaresu: I can stick it where I want, I've given you the solution
[02:39] <icesword> root----- g41,nerver heard of it,is it supported by bzip2
[02:40] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, neither do I sorry
[02:40] <dolphin_noel> pelo neither i lol that why i'm asking :x thanks anyway :)
[02:40] <steven__> hi, i'd like ubuntu and vista and xp on the same disk. I've set my disks to use ext3 and I can not get them working with ntfs or fat32 again. I tried gparted in ubuntu and from a live cd but that didn't work. Any ideas?
[02:40] <root-----> icesword g4l uses bzip2
[02:40] <mneptok> steven__: i have many :)
[02:41] <nasamo> hello, how do I install DVD plugins?
[02:41] <bascule> steven__: delete and recreate them in xp disc thingy
[02:41] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, in the xorg.conf file, toward the top of the file, there is a section MODULE ,  there aer several modules listed there,   put dve and the other one in that list,  taht should be it I think
[02:41] <bascule> !medibuntu > steven__
[02:41] <epssy> steven_ usually you install windows xp first, onto a blank partition (or make it fat32 in gparted), then you install vista on to the second fat32 partition, then you install linux on the ext3 partition so that it gives you a bootloader that includes them all
[02:41] <Pelo> !dvd > nasamo check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:41] <icesword> steven_, u format all disk to ext3？
[02:41] <bascule> oops sorry steven__
[02:42] <steven__> unfortunately yes!
[02:42] <dolphin_noel> Pelo yes i see many xorg.conf there whith this 2 modules just ... looks this working well whithout they :x and i don`t know what they are for to :x
[02:42] <iter> steven__: yeah unfortunately windows doesn't do ext3 at all
[02:42] <natlinuxnewb> whats the human readable command for hardware info?
[02:42] <gyaresu> epssy: nvidia-settings has nothing to do with loading the correct driver module.
[02:42] <icesword>  i  do think for dualboot ,/boot is a must
[02:43] <epssy> gyaresu: you need to remove one of the installs of the driver to do what you want, there is no other way
[02:43] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: lspci or sudo lshw | less
[02:43] <gaurdro> how stable is using the 'unsupported updates'  option for updates?
[02:43] <fapril> I can't seem to save a file that I'm downloading directly to a windows share on my network. I'd rather save it to my other computer rather than copy it over when its complete. is this possible ?
[02:43] <natlinuxnewb> bascule: Thanks. what does that mean/do?
[02:43] <natlinuxnewb> bascule: short for...
[02:43] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, ah,  sorry I get your question now , I thought you knew what they were for and just needed to load them in xorg.   try looking then up in synaptic there should be a short destrcition with the package they are in
[02:43] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: what you asked, lists hardware
[02:43] <brian_> hey does anyone know what to do about the autorun features? i can't get my new system to run install files
[02:43] <iter> natlinuxnewb: lspci is just 'show everything on the pci bus'
[02:44] <iter> natlinuxnewb: I'm sure you can guess ls hw :)
[02:44] <dolphin_noel> pelo i allready try it nathing :x
[02:44] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: one lists the pci bus second lists all hardware
[02:44] <deniz__> avidemux asks if i want to index when i open .mpg file....what does this mean?
[02:44] <epssy> natlinuxnewb: if you google for 'how to read lspci output' there are several very good resources
[02:44] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, google then ?
[02:44] <natlinuxnewb> iter: bascule: ok thanks
[02:44] <natlinuxnewb> is that first letters I s? eye ess?
[02:44] <dolphin_noel> pelo i allready try it to lol
[02:44] <epssy> deniz__: your avi has a corrupt index (you need an index to fast forward and rewind)...all it does is makes one for you if it can (fixes it)
[02:44] <bascule> fapril: you probably need to change the write permissions for the drive mount point, directory where it is located
[02:45] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, try asking in ##linux maybe they will know
[02:45] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: ell ess pee see eye
[02:45] <natlinuxnewb> bascule:  lol thanks
[02:45] <bascule> :)
[02:46]  * Pelo wonders if he should call the ops on bascule  for saying pee in the channel 
[02:46] <ComradeMirror> hey is there a way to rotate the cube and have it float without holding down the keys x.x?
[02:46] <bascule> heh
[02:46] <_Oz_> heheheheheh
[02:46] <geekworx> Hello, i'm running Linux ubuntu 7.10 why when i try to login on my e-gold ( www.e-gold.com ) account i have this error   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56683/plain/
[02:46] <bascule> you just did
[02:46] <steven__> bascule: shall I delete the partitions in gparted and recreate them in xp disc thingy. Because when I try deleting/recreating in xp disc thingy it won't let me.
[02:46] <deniz__> epssy, k, thx....how do i open multiple files and combine them?
[02:46] <Pelo> ComradeMirror, ask in #compiz
[02:46] <fapril> bascule: Ive created a launcher to the share and I can even create/delete files/folders
[02:46] <amy_> feisty had meinstall the nvidia driver using the restricted drivers, but gutsy tells me i dont need any restricted drivers and even envy will not install the nvidia driver.. what gives???
[02:46] <fapril> bascule: I just can't point my files to download directly to it
[02:46] <dolphin_noel> Pelo :)
[02:46] <bascule> steven__: thats what to do, leave them as blank space and then xp them
[02:46] <Pricey> geekworx, use their contact form to ask for help
[02:47] <epssy> deniz__: what sort of file type is it? ...you'll have to get an application specific to it, usually google some thing like   split avi files linux   (so you get one that works under linux)
[02:47] <geekworx> hah
[02:47] <bascule> fapril: is it smbmount'ed ?
[02:47] <geekworx> my box is the problem
[02:47] <nano__> hey guys, i was just wondering why does linux mount usb drives as /dev/sdXX ..... isn't the /dev/sdXX name convention reserved for scsi devices?
[02:47] <epssy> gyaresu: do you want pistols at dawn?
[02:47] <epssy> nano_ yes.
[02:47] <epssy> nano_ but more accurately, no
[02:47] <fapril> bascule: yes it is.. the path can be found under places->network-> etc
[02:47] <nano__> epssy: hmmm ?
[02:47] <bascule> nano__: it's a hackery, scsi IO is borrowed for other devices
[02:48] <Pelo> dolphin_noel, did they have an answer for you ?
[02:48] <mlubin> test
[02:48] <bascule> fapril: might no be the same thing as a proper smbmount entry in /etc/fstab
[02:48] <Pelo> !test > mlubin
[02:48] <deniz__> epssy, me and my friends video taped ourselves and its in .mpg files, we have a project due tomorow and i have to fuse them, make a menu, put lettres on the video and make webs (little gray lines r ok) bcuz we kinda r doing it on spiderman LOL
[02:48] <epssy> nano_ both of them are serial controllers I guess? :P
[02:48] <nano__> bascule: so its basically a convenience hack?
[02:48] <bascule> yes
[02:48] <nano__> i c, that explains a lot
[02:48] <epssy> deniz__: I recommend er klivesomething, give me a moment - it'll do what you want
[02:48] <lusepuster> Hi folks - I just installed Listen, but it doesn't start - returns a segfault, says it tries to run a notification-daemon that's not there...?
[02:49] <fapril> bascule: you're right it may not be.. checking fstab now... 1 sec
[02:49] <deniz__> epssy, KDEnlive?
[02:49] <bascule> k
[02:49] <lusepuster> I used to like Listen and would like to give it another shot
[02:49] <epssy> deniz__: that sounds right
[02:49] <deniz__> epssy, i tried that and it wont play my files as in play to watch
[02:49] <amy_> why doesntgutsy recognize that i need restricted drivers?
[02:49] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> Pelo no i don`t ask it there i'm try to check here a few things maby i can :x
[02:50] <epssy> deniz__: there is cinerela but it is very hard to use (it is an industry application)
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: if it recognizes the hardware that needs the restricted driver, yes
[02:50] <bascule> amy_: just the way it is sometimes, once you add them it will tell you you need them :)
[02:50] <natlinuxnewb> !partitions
[02:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:50] <amy_> IndyGunFreak:  feisty did, but gutsy does not
[02:50] <fapril> bascule: no there's nothing relating to the smb mount. Im only accessing it through ubuntu gui
[02:50] <epssy> deniz__: will anything play your mpg? if not you'll have to install some restricted drivers
[02:50] <bascule> fapril: i suspect that is the problem !smbmount
[02:50] <deniz__> epssy, ya i can watch it under totem
[02:50] <bascule> !smbmount
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbmount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <bascule> !samba
[02:50] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[02:51] <natlinuxnewb> need some more advice. How much should i have on my /boot AND /Home and /Root?
[02:51] <fapril> bascule: gotcha.. trying now
[02:51] <epssy> deniz__: you've reached the limit of my knowledge on the topic; I suggest asking for more help in the kdenlive channel?
[02:51] <natlinuxnewb> And swap
[02:51] <andresj> hello! how can I install bzr-1.2 in gutsy? I added the ppa repository as described on bazaar-vcs.org and `apt-get update`, and tried to install it, but there is a conflict... bzrtools needs <bzr-1.2
[02:51] <deniz__> epssy, OMG R U SERIOUS, THERE IS CHANNELS FOR VIDEO EDITING APPLICATIONS?!?!
[02:51] <goblin> Hello people how to install on Ubuntu 7.10 aol america online ? can i install that please can somebody tell me?
[02:52] <amy_> Why Wont Gutsy Recognize That I Need Restricted Drivers, But Feisty Will?
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: whats the hardeware?
[02:52] <epssy> goblin: why do you want to?
[02:52] <amy_> IndyGunFreak: its an nvidia chipset
[02:52] <fapril> bascule: is "!smbmount" a sudo command?
[02:52] <bascule> goblin: not that god awful software no, but you can connect with various methods
[02:52] <bascule> fapril: yes
[02:52] <epssy> also goblin install a package called   wine   and try installing aol then
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: and its not in the restricted driver manager?.. System/Admin/Restricted?
[02:52] <icesword> !netinstall >goblin
[02:52] <bascule> epssy: no, that is a very bad idea
[02:52] <icesword> sorry
[02:52] <amy_> IndyGunFreak: nope
[02:53] <goblin> aha
[02:53] <goblin> ok
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: hmm. that is strange
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: what chipset?
[02:53] <epssy> bascule: you're a bad idea
[02:53] <deniz__> epssy, k, thx ill go to it
[02:53] <amy_> IndyGunFreak: tell me about it
[02:53] <toyo|desk> hey all
[02:53] <deniz__> epssy, wat is the kdenlive channel?
[02:53] <bascule> fapril: read the first line of the ubotu link I send you
[02:53] <amy_> IndyGunFreak: i dont know... to me, its of little importance as it was working before i upgraded
[02:53] <bascule> !samba > fapril
[02:53] <fapril> bascule: k will do
[02:53] <natlinuxnewb> How big should my swap, /, and home partitions be on an 80g HD?
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: well, it would help to know to diagnose the problem.. lspci in a terminal
[02:54] <toyo|desk> I was just wondering if anyone here has an NEC chipset USB 2.0 controller, I am looking at one online to replace my via onboard
[02:54] <neeto> How do I open another GDM session on another screen (CTRL+ALT+F8)
[02:54] <epssy> deniz__: they don't appear to have an irc channel, only a forums and mailing list http://www.kdenlive.org/contact.php
[02:54] <epssy> sorry
[02:54] <toyo|desk> just wondering if it worked
[02:54] <icesword> natlinuxnewb, ram?os?
[02:54] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: 9gig / depends on ram and suspend requirements for swap rest /home
[02:54] <natlinuxnewb> icesword: Ubuntu 7.10 512Ram
[02:54] <deniz__> epssy, wat has a channel then?
[02:54] <fapril> bascule: nice.. its been a while. I though samba was installed by default in ubuntu
[02:54] <killown> how do I to enable agp fast writes on fx5500 card video?   cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status show me Fast Writes:     Disabled can anyone help me fix it?
[02:54] <bascule> well bits are
[02:54] <gnychis> anyone know any good video editing tools in linux?
[02:55] <kostkon> amy_, which driver do you use right now, do you know? the nvidia or the open source one?
[02:55] <epssy> deniz__: not sure sorry, wait for the reply to gnychis question maybe?
[02:55] <amy_> IndyGunFreak: intel mobile 945gm
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: thats not nvidia.
[02:55] <sucklefish> Hi, I am trying to load ubuntu on my flash drive. From the ISO image can i simply extract all the files to the usb drive?
[02:55] <natlinuxnewb> bascule, icesword: 9g for a swap??
[02:55] <bascule> killown: in xorg .conf in Device sectio set it there,ask #nvidia they'll know off there headds probably
[02:55] <amy_> kostkon: i cant install a driver.. i keep getting errors
[02:55] <epssy> gnychis: kdenlive, cinerela, and several others
[02:55] <kostkon> amy_, what type of errors?
[02:55] <amy_> IndyGunFreak:  my mistake..
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: thats an intel device, nt an nvidia.
[02:55] <bascule> killown: Option EnableFastWrites "True" or something
[02:56] <amy_> IndyGunFreak:  still, it installed it in feisty and i was able to runberyl all of last year
[02:56] <kostkon> amy_, are you trying to install the driver with envy?
[02:56] <icesword> natlinuxnewb, i recommend swap 1g, / 4g,/home the rest disk, i am not sure,depend on your need
[02:56] <CarlFK> how do I get sudo to sudo the >> to?  sudo cat fstab.txt >> /etc/fstab
[02:56] <killown> Option         "AGPFastWrite" "True" but it not works
[02:56] <deniz__> gnychis, kino, KDEnlive, etc
[02:56] <pawan> hi
[02:56] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: no 9gig / something > than ram for swap, rest /home
[02:56] <pawan> grub error 22
[02:56] <pawan> how to repair
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> amy_: don't know, i know gutsy has had some issues w/ the Intel chipsets.. i've got an Intel GM965, and it doesn't work w/ compiz.
[02:56] <amy_> IndyGunFreak:  kostkon: i guess my question becomes, how does feisty install the driver and it work, but gutsy does not?
[02:56] <sucklefish> Hi, I am trying to load ubuntu on my flash drive. From the ISO image can i simply extract all the files to the usb drive?
[02:57] <icesword> pawan, google "grub load error 22"
[02:57] <CarlFK> sucklefish: you probably want to install to the usb drive
[02:57] <bascule> !usb sucklefish
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb sucklefish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <bascule> !usb | sucklefish
[02:57] <ubotu> sucklefish: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:57] <epssy> deniz__: mmm how about you convert the mpgs to avi then try editing them? you'll be able to find a converting tool via google
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> !bot rookie | bascule
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot rookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[02:57] <bascule> IndyGunFreak: heh
[02:57] <icesword> epssy, google mpg to avi
[02:58] <deniz__> epssy, how will that make things easier?
[02:58] <pawan> hello
[02:58] <pawan> how to repair
[02:58] <pawan> grub
[02:58] <bascule> stop it
[02:58] <bascule> :)
[02:58] <prince_jammys> is that a haiku?
[02:58] <natlinuxnewb> icesword, bascule: ok Let me rephrase. 80g split into 4 parts. Linux Swap is 1g, /boot is 8g, / is 2.80, /home is 65g. Is that an ok setup for Ubuntu 7.10 with 512Ram Intell onboard Video?
[02:58] <bascule> hi prince_jammys
[02:58] <prince_jammys> bascule: hi
[02:58] <iter> damn pawan still in here asking the same question word for word
[02:59] <epssy> deniz__: thought you were having issues with kden playing your mpgs?
[02:59] <kostkon> amy_, yes that's strange. so, the restricted manager does not say anything about the nvidia driver? although, it is a possibility that you are using the nvidia driver (the version from the repos I mean) even though the restricted manager does not recognize this.
[02:59] <iter> it's been at least 5 days now
[02:59] <prince_jammys> i know
[02:59] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: forget /boot old-skool
[02:59] <natlinuxnewb> bascule: Reasons?
[02:59] <blitzkrieg3> smondo1: hey man
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: grub error 22?
[02:59] <blitzkrieg3> smondo1: welcom to irc
[02:59] <epssy> haha error 22, sucks to be you pawan
[02:59] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: no longer neede really, I don't want to go there really
[02:59] <sucklefish> !usb
[02:59] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:59] <prince_jammys> nice
[03:00] <blackvd> Having a weird problem here. I just go home and fired up my laptop only to have it hang on boot :( tried running recovery mode and it hangs on disk checking root at 27%. So I'm using the liveCD right now to get on IRC. I havent a clue what to do to fix my root. any help please.
[03:00] <lusepuster> Hi folks - I just installed Listen, but it doesn't start - returns a segfault trying to run a notification-daemon that is not there
[03:00] <natlinuxnewb> bascule: What about reinstalling OS but keeping your files safe?
[03:00] <epssy> blackvd: sudo fsck /dev/hda1 (if that is your root disc)
[03:00] <kostkon> amy_, you could open your xorg.conf file and check which driver is being used
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | pawan  try following the instructions here for recovering grub
[03:00] <ubotu> pawan  try following the instructions here for recovering grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:00] <smondo1> yo
[03:01] <blackvd> epssy: can i run that from the live cd?
[03:01] <epssy> natlinuxnewb: you need to have all your files and apps on a separate partition to do that (ie home to sd2)
[03:01] <bascule> natlinuxnewb: well add a new user at install witha differnet name and tell /home to not format, after install come back and ask again :)
[03:01] <blitzkrieg3> smondo1: hi
[03:01] <deniz__> epssy, well it adds the clips but they dont play as in i cant watch them
[03:01] <epssy> blackvd: it's the only way to do it when your system doesn't boot :p
[03:01] <epssy> deniz__: very odd :/
[03:01] <smondo1> blitzkrieg3: sup
[03:01] <blackvd> i was thinking under boot options or something
[03:01] <epssy> it may play them if they are avi's though, was what I was suggesting
[03:01] <deniz__> epssy, now they work!
[03:01] <deniz__> epssy, but with no sound?!
[03:01] <epssy> IndyGunFreak: with an error 22 he's not going to get help from there
[03:02] <bascule> is that where boot volumes get swapped about
[03:02] <epssy> mmm deniz__ are you using alsa? if not close kden and close any other application making sound, then try again
[03:02] <pawan> no
[03:02] <epssy> bascule: yes
[03:02] <epssy> yes it is pawa
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> epssy: don't know, never had 22, usually 17.. so why would reinstalling grub from the live CD not work?
[03:02] <bascule> nasty
[03:02] <epssy> 22 is when the boot loader isn't where the mbr expects it to be
[03:02] <icesword> natlinuxnewb, who told u make /boot 8g?
[03:03] <epssy> first time i had it it took me 10 hours to work out (not internet to help :()
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> ugh
[03:03] <Esaj> anyone else getting a problem with pycentral crashing?
[03:03] <pawan> then
[03:03] <epssy> don't use ubuntu so don't know Esaj :P
[03:03] <natlinuxnewb> :( i dont understand the /boot thinking. Everytime I put a install CD in, it asks me what one I want to install to anyway.  icesword: nobody. that was the problem.Ive been guessing from get go.
[03:03]  * Esaj is using 8.04
[03:03] <deniz__> epssy, wat do u mean am i using alsa? how do i check? and im starting to panick big time now since i alredy lost 10% for 1 day late and its rely late and im geting tired and i dint do nothing! :'(
[03:03] <epssy> Esaj:  that's an unstable isn't it? if so wait till tonight or report it as a bug :P
[03:04] <pawan> what to do
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: how did you partition your disk to install Ubuntu?
[03:04] <pawan> using ubuntu setup
[03:04] <jacob_> when i try to shutdown i loose function to open things i can move my pointer and my system still responds butit is a pain having to keep restarting my xserver
[03:04] <bascule> pawan: maybe select a boot device from BIOS menu and go from there
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: i mean, how.. how did you setup your partitions..
[03:05] <pawan> i am in winxp now
[03:05] <jamiejackson> how do i send ctrl-alt-delete to a windows login whilst in Remote Desktop Client's VPN client?
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: well how did you get to winxp if you're having grub issues?
[03:05] <bascule> pawan: so XP boots, oh well not as fatal as I feared
[03:05] <jacob_> when i try to shutdown i loose function to open things i can move my pointer and my system still responds butit is a pain having to keep restarting my xserver
[03:05] <epssy> pawan okay your issues is that your bios is telling grub that the disc is say /disc0/part0 but you have a sata controller or some thing that causes the order to change to say /disc1/part0 and grub is still looking for /disc0/part0 and bang you get an error 22
[03:06] <bascule> jacob_: compiz does that sometimes :(
[03:06] <epssy> try disabling all extra controllers you have on your disc
[03:06] <epssy> motherboard *
[03:06] <jamiejackson> (you've probably guessed that ctrl-alt-delete, itself, does not work ;-)
[03:06] <pawan> ok
[03:06] <epssy> or, the easy solution is to make a grub boot disc
[03:06] <epssy> then start your system that way
[03:06] <barrypaxton> can anyone help me im haveing a sound issue my sound was working before i updated my ubuntu studio but now i have no sound
[03:06] <norv> switching to lilo almost always fixes those problems
[03:06] <bascule> norv: I still love lilo :)
[03:07] <norv> it's not that I really care about lilo, it's that grub is just that bad
[03:07] <jacob_> bascule,  Is there a way to fix it??
[03:07] <epssy> bascule: every one loves lilo till they lose their first system to it
[03:07] <icesword> !lilo > icesword
[03:07] <bascule> ctrl+alt+bksp kills X, works for me
[03:07] <pawan> how to make grub boot disc
[03:08] <epssy> pawan look on the grub site
[03:08] <bascule> epssy: i am still on grub with ubuntu, but .. well I might just lilo it
[03:08] <epssy> you'll also need to look at your current menu.lst in /boot/grub/ to find out what commands you need to put in
[03:08] <zulerdongle> hi there. does anyone know if there is a way to set a users files as private (the same/similar way that you do in windows) ? Thanks
[03:08] <DG19075> !lilo>DG19075
[03:08] <bascule> zulerdongle: chmod, or right click -> permissions
[03:08] <epssy> remember pawan that grub tab completions hard drive references, so if you get stuck just 'fish' around for which hard drive is your primary one
[03:09] <imc1> Hello; I recently hosed my monitor settings, ran the rediscover script ( sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but am still having trouble. Before I was able to enable desktop effects and now I am not. Can anyone help?
[03:09] <zulerdongle> bascule thanks ill try it
[03:09] <jacob_> bascule,  Is there a way to fix it??
[03:09] <bascule> jacob_: nit that I know of, other than patience for an update
[03:09] <browniehead> the icon that allows me to access my windows hard drive partition dissapeared, how do i get it back
[03:09] <epssy> imc1: rediscover wipes your xorg conf file, you probably had some compiz settings in their, or some driver specific ones
[03:09] <norv> epssy: doesn't if it can't find the grub boot, which is the problem with having the boot partition on SATA
[03:10] <imc1> epssy; cool, thanks. Can you point me to a compiz how to?
[03:10] <natlinuxnewb> Ahah! I'm trying to resize my window and it keeps snapping back to the top after going all wobbly
[03:10] <icesword> browniehead, mount it first
[03:10] <mike_> hey guys whenever i type sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start it justs fails any ideas
[03:10] <mike_> i have mysql installed
[03:10] <browniehead> how do i mount it?
[03:10] <bascule> imc1: check xorg.conf for Driver settings if it is vesa that is why, change it too reflect the graphics card you have
[03:10] <epssy> norv: not that I'm aware of, at least since the .16 kernel
[03:10] <Jangari> browniehead: try "mount -a"
[03:10] <imc1> bascule, thanks, checking
[03:11] <epssy> I used to have to boot from a grub disc every time during .8 through to .16 kernel because I had a pata controller and sata controller as pci cards :P was a pain
[03:11] <icesword> browniehead, maybe it is mount /dev/(s)hda1 /media
[03:11] <browniehead> it sais only root can do that
[03:11] <jacob_> bascule,   damn that sucks because i installed the xgl-xsever package the other day to play with compiz some more and it just starded after i did that and ran it
[03:11] <Jangari> okay, then "sudo mount -a"
[03:11] <browniehead> oh ok
[03:11] <imc1> bascule, nope, the right card is in there
[03:11] <tarelerulz> anyone install ekiga for Ubuntu 7.10 and have sound problems with it .
[03:11] <Jangari> assuming it's in your fstab
[03:11] <norv> epssy: if grub can't find the stage 1.5, it can't go on. which is before it even tries to load a kernel or chain load anything
[03:11] <bascule> jacob_: you don't need that AFAIK
[03:11] <_Oz_> fehhhhhh
[03:12] <epssy> norv: hence the need for a grub boot disc
[03:12] <bascule> imc1: try glxinfo in an X terminal
[03:12] <browniehead> oh ok, is it not showing up cuz i did a hard shut down
[03:12] <pawan> can i use pen drive to load grub boot disc
[03:12]  * bascule actually hates x issues with a passion
[03:12] <Jangari> mm, probably
[03:12] <imc1> bascule, ok
[03:12] <killown> I cannot get w32codecs on apt-get
[03:12] <epssy> pawan I believe so, just make sure your bios lets you put removable devices at the top of the boot order
[03:13] <killown> I have enable anything?
[03:13] <Jangari> browniehead: does it usually display as an icon on the desktop?
[03:13] <bascule> yes
[03:13] <phroughy> is it possible to install firefox 2 and firefox 3 at the same time?
[03:13] <epssy> killown: aptitude search w32codec
[03:13] <browniehead> yea
[03:13] <Jangari> nav to /media, browniehead
[03:13] <killown> aptitude search w32codec nothing happen
[03:13] <epssy> or killown google   ubuntu restricted drivers    and go to the ubuntu wiki entry and follow that guide
[03:13] <browniehead> also my links to windows folders like my movies and what not are broken
[03:14] <imc1> bascule, http://pastebin.com/m782c377
[03:14] <icesword> !swiftfox
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <adorablepuppy> My Ubuntu Gutsy has been hard freezing since I moved to a new board. No kernel panic, no magic sysrq recovery working, nothing.
[03:14] <kostkon> killown, add the medibuntu repo (http://medibuntu.org/
[03:14] <Jangari> browniehead: is this a partition on the same hard drive? are you running dual-boot?
[03:14] <browniehead> dual boot on the same hard drive
[03:14] <jacob_> bascule,  once i enabled it i went into a screen that asked if i wanted to use low graphics setting so i went to a prompt and i found it messed with my xorg.conf and changed the device back to intel before it was vesa
[03:15] <modoc> Is there a command line util to get the file extension of a file?  something like basename does
[03:15] <bascule> imc1: looks OKish, now run compiz --replace in a terminal
[03:15] <killown> ok
[03:15] <craigbass1976> Anyone ever have connection trouble with amule?  I try to connect to any of the donkey servers, and it jsut keeps trying forever
[03:15] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 how to install grub from Ubuntu live cd for those interested
[03:15] <AlexE> Ubuntu makes me splurge
[03:15] <imc1> THANKS bascule - bu the way I had the same thing as jacob_
[03:15] <pawan> its in tar.gz format
[03:15] <Jangari> browniehead: there's some command that forces an unmount of any devices that weren't unmounted correctly, but I can't remember what it is,
[03:16] <AlexE> What is the best way to stick it to the man (windows)?
[03:16] <Laney_Family> hello?
[03:16] <craigbass1976> nor can I seem to get an updated list of servers
[03:16] <craigbass1976> AlexE, Stop using windows
[03:16] <bascule> jacob_: imc1 there is some difference between xgl and aiglx, they don't get on, I am sorry I can't remeber the specifics thoigh
[03:16] <Laney_Family> wow, i finaly got this to work
[03:16] <browniehead> or just stop buying it
[03:16] <AlexE> craigbass1976, I'm not using windows.  Though, I'm about to partition my drive so I can put a CRACKED windows on it so I can run some software
[03:16] <craigbass1976> Laney_Family, you sure did.  Welcome
[03:16] <Jangari> using mac would probably be the best way, AlexE, since that means someone else is getting your money, rather than no one else getting it
[03:17] <Laney_Family> thanks craig
[03:17] <craigbass1976> AlexE, That would be still catering to the man, pirated or not
[03:17] <norv> AlexE: just use VirtualBox
[03:17] <AlexE> craigbass1976, But I am doing it with a grimace.
[03:17] <Jangari> catering to the man, nicely said
[03:17] <browniehead> pirate everything...arrrr
[03:17] <imc1> bascule, whoops: Checking for Xgl: not present.  No whitelisted driver found aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[03:17] <AlexE> Jangari, What if I burn money next to mr. gates.
[03:17] <Laney_Family> lol, this is my first time having issues with buntu so i thought i would try and get help on here, first time using irc
[03:17] <bazhang> AlexE: best way is to just linux software; this is offtopic here though
[03:17] <tarelerulz> with Ekiga  I see alsa and that is all it says not much more about the sound . It says I should hear a play back ,but I don't .
[03:17] <craigbass1976> AlexE, If I eat crow with a smile, I'm still eating crow
[03:17] <icesword> AlexE, what u mean cracked windows
[03:17] <AlexE> is there a way I can find a windows person's house in order to defecate inside the domicile?
[03:17] <craigbass1976> Dude, stop
[03:17] <Jangari> he might just say something really generous, like "for every dollar you burn i'll give ten thousand to kids with no limbs"
[03:18] <bascule> imc1: well ask the #compiz people, I kind of know, but they *will* know :)
[03:18] <bazhang> !ot | AlexE
[03:18] <ubotu> AlexE: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:18] <imc1> cool, bascule, thanks!!
[03:18] <bascule> welcome
[03:18] <AlexE> icesword, windows that I didn't buy
[03:18] <bazhang> AlexE: please stop
[03:18] <AlexE> bazhang, I am sorry i love you.
[03:19] <icesword> AlexE i c
[03:19] <Schmao-Fmao> Hi there .. I have a command line version of Ubuntu running, and I want to install the minimum number of packages to enable Xwindows.  What packages do I need?
[03:19] <Laney_Family> hmm.
[03:19] <Laney_Family> um
[03:19] <Jangari> browniehead: can you pastebin your fstab?
[03:19] <browniehead> im gonna try booting up windows and shuting down the right way
[03:19] <bascule> Schmao-Fmao: I would go for xubuntu-dektop
[03:19] <Laney_Family> so i have a dumb Q if any one feels upto it?
[03:19] <browniehead> maybe thats it
[03:19] <AlexE> YES LANEY_FAMILY?
[03:19] <Jangari> yeah, try that first, browniehead
[03:19] <bazhang> ask away Laney_Family
[03:19] <browniehead> ill be back either way :)
[03:19] <Jangari> is it vista, browniehead?
[03:20] <browniehead> yep
[03:20] <potato> how can i install windows xp after i install ubuntu?
[03:20] <Jangari> oh, well, there's ya problem
[03:20] <AlexE> potato, PM me
[03:20] <browniehead> yeah i know
[03:20] <browniehead> it came with the comp
[03:20] <AlexE> potato, actually hold on
[03:20] <bascule> Schmao-Fmao: try sudo tasksel and go from there , move around using tab and arrows, space selcts return executes
[03:20] <Schmao-Fmao> bascule: I don't want a display manager, actually .. I just want ssh to have X forwarding, and for emacs to open up in a separate window when I log in .. that sorta thing :)
[03:20] <browniehead> hence me getting ubuntu :)
[03:20] <Schmao-Fmao> bascule: Okay, thanks :) I'll look into that
[03:20] <potato> ok
[03:20] <browniehead> ok well here goes
[03:20] <Jangari> it has a hard time actually shutting down sometimes, apparently, so when you boot ubuntu, it can't mount the windows partition because 'some other device (the machine itself) is using it'
[03:21] <Jangari> meh
[03:21] <natlinuxnewb> Why can I not see into the "lost + found" folder in my Home?
[03:21] <AlexE> You have to search "lost + found"
[03:21] <AlexE> that should do it
[03:21] <icesword> natlinuxnewb, coz u are not root
[03:21] <craigbass1976> Laney_Family, What's the quesiton
[03:21] <craigbass1976> Laney_Family, lets see how dumb it is
[03:21] <Jangari> how much extra data is used in creating a new user account?
[03:21] <potato> alex im using ksirc how can i pm?
[03:21] <Laney_Family> ok, i have an older pc i plan to setup with multiple versions of linux on, ubuntu flavors spec., i plan to do this with hd that will stay in the sys as a "media" drive, and one removable bay for the os, i have about 6 40-80 gig hds i was gonna do this on, so i installed the edubuntu for my son on one, it works with no issues, better than i hade hoped
[03:22] <Schmao-Fmao> bascule: I'm not quite sure if that's what I'm looking for.  Basically, when I ssh into my computer the way it is with X forwarding on, I can't get emacs to open in a separate window.  I think I'm missing Xorg or something along those lines...
[03:22] <AlexE> potato, I just sent you a PM
[03:22] <potato> how do i see in kirc
[03:22] <jacob> i guess i will have to do a clean install
[03:22] <bascule> Schmao-Fmao: try installing xserver-xorg
[03:22] <AlexE> do you have MSN or AIM
[03:22] <jacob> after i save every thing
[03:22] <Laney_Family> however, when i try and install ubuntu or kubuntu, they goto the prompt to install, with other options, and goto loading, then i get a prompt (initramfs)
[03:22] <Schmao-Fmao> bascule: That might be what I need.  Thanks :0
[03:22] <AlexE> turtlewaxfoodofthegods@hotmail.com -or- Crouching Lotus0
[03:23] <potato> alexe i have aim
[03:23] <can-o-worms> can someone please tell me the name of the program that lists all of your processes?
[03:23] <Jangari> ps
[03:23] <bascule> can-o-worms: ps aux
[03:23] <Jangari> ps -aux, can-o-worms
[03:23] <Laney_Family> no i have done installs of ubuntu before, norm i get the gui after selecting install,
[03:23] <Flannel> Jangari: no -
[03:23] <bascule> :)
[03:23] <Jangari> oh?
[03:23] <AlexE> can-o-worms, system>administration>system monitor>processes
[03:23] <Laney_Family> so um, my dumb Q is what am i doing wrong, why is it deaming me unworthy
[03:23] <can-o-worms> Jangari: bascule no, the other one
[03:24] <craigbass1976> Laney_Family, You can't boot to anything?
[03:24] <bazhang> top can-o-worms?
[03:24] <bascule> can-o-worms: top ?
[03:24] <AlexE> potato, just send me a message > Crouching Lotus0
[03:24] <Jangari> ps aux and ps -aux return the same
[03:24] <Falican> \join
[03:24] <can-o-worms> bascule: yeah, that's it... thanks
[03:24] <bascule> hey bazhang :)
[03:24] <bazhang> hey bascule ;]
[03:24] <bascule> lol
[03:24] <bascule> dunno why I'm laughing ...
[03:25] <Laney_Family> its a clean install, so no, after selecting install i get the loading screen then the prompt
[03:25] <bazhang> Laney_Family: this is using the alternate cds or the live cds?
[03:25] <Laney_Family> oddly enough, i remove the hd, and it does the EXACT same thing
[03:25] <cicero_b> ahh -- this is killin me -- how do i pull out a command from the recent commands. for example, say 10 minutes ago i typed: find / -name "happy" and i want to start typing "fin", i used to know a key to pull up the last command that started with this same sequence
[03:25] <cicero_b> any ideas?
[03:26] <bascule> cicero_b: !comm
[03:26] <Laney_Family> these are the dl's, i have dl twice and burned the second one twice, its not a bad burn or bad dl, atleast i wouldnt think
[03:26] <bascule> like !menc for a big mencoder string of options
[03:26] <browniehead> that was it
[03:26] <usr13> cicero_b: history |grep whatever
[03:26] <bazhang> Laney_Family: right, but would that be the livecd or the alternate cd?
[03:26] <browniehead> im all good now
[03:26] <craigbass1976> cicero_b, cat ~/.bash_history | grep fin
[03:26] <usr13> cicero_b: history |grep find
[03:26] <Laney_Family> o sory, im assuming the live cd
[03:27] <can-o-worms> does anyone know what trackerd is?
[03:27] <Laney_Family> its the main download of the 7.10
[03:27] <brian_> how do I open .exe files on my new os?
[03:27] <AlexE> is your new OS ubuntu
[03:27] <brian_> yup
[03:27] <cicero_b> bascule -- that seemed closest to what i remember but that doesn't seem to work in bash (!fin then up-arrow, right)
[03:27] <usr13> brian_: unzip file.exe
[03:27] <edju> does the order in which devices are listed in fstab make any difference?
[03:27] <AlexE> download wine
[03:27] <bascule> cicero_b: no just !fin
[03:27] <jacob> bascule, i just loged into anther user and it works for that one so i have isolated it to my user does that help you any in determining the problem
[03:27] <brian_> i can't find a download for it
[03:28] <AlexE> go to terminal
[03:28] <AlexE> and just type
[03:28] <brian_> where should i go
[03:28] <bascule> jacob: well a little, must be some .compiz config setting
[03:28] <AlexE> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:28] <Laney_Family> the file is labled : ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[03:29] <natlinuxnewb> ty everyone. bbl
[03:29] <jacob> bascule,  is there somthing i can try??
[03:29] <cicero_b> huh -- just !fin ?? then enter, tab, what?
[03:29] <Laney_Family> i have the command prompts header if it would help: its BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Built-in shell (ash)
[03:29] <bascule> jacob: I am no compiz expert, if compiz don't know ... well
[03:30] <bascule> but try googling for "compiz whitelist"
[03:30] <jacob> im not even using compiz  i dissabled it   could it have messed up a config file or somthing
[03:30] <brian_> thanks alexE
[03:30] <bascule> jacob: I thought compiz was the issue ..
[03:30] <AlexE> sure brian_
[03:31] <bascule> no X at all, well that is different
[03:31] <jacob> well i enabled it one day
[03:31] <jacob> but
[03:31] <Laney_Family> any ideas?
[03:31] <jacob> bascule,  i enabled it and installed a missing package but i have used it before and no problems
[03:32] <bascule> does it work as the new user?
[03:32] <barrypaxton> my logitech usb headset has no sound can anyone help me
[03:32] <jacob> bascule,  but another thing that bothers me is i cant get to the command prompt by using ctrl alt f2 or f1
[03:33] <cicero_b> time for a stupid on. i want to copy all files from directory foo to directory bar. say i am in bar, why can't i "cp ~/foo ."?
[03:33] <^CatMan^> jacob: that is just a matter of setting ur shortcut keys
[03:33] <bascule> jacob: it's an intel isn't it(?)
[03:33] <jacob> yes
[03:33] <barrypaxton> my logitech usb headset has no sound can anyone help me
[03:33] <credible> cicero_b: cp ~/foo/* .
[03:33] <jacob> intel cpu and igp
[03:33] <bascule> :-{
[03:33] <bazhang> Laney_Family: how many different distros are you planning on loading into these various removable hdd's? and you plan on hot swapping or switching out the drives for whoever is going to use the computer--i.e. edubuntu for junior, ubuntu for grandma and so on? and have the internal to be the media storage device? is that about right?
[03:33] <cicero_b> cool, i'll try
[03:33] <pizza> when booting from the livecd, what's the passwd for root, i'm currently as ubuntu
[03:33] <Jared> guys.... my "network manager" icon top right on sys tray has somehow gotten "squashed"! Now just a thin line can see any signal bars now! (wifi).. squashed between bluetooth and the seach icon, anyone know how to restore that???
[03:34] <Laney_Family> mmm, yes bazhang
[03:34] <bascule> cicero_b: cp -a is more likely to work
[03:34] <Jared> "can see" = cant see, sorry
[03:34] <Laney_Family> and no
[03:34] <jacob> bascule,  yes im using an intel core 2 duo and an intel chipset with the   x3000
[03:34] <Laney_Family> not for diff ppl, more for diff purposes but yea, accurate assumption
[03:34] <fdsajfdjk> where is the trash bin?
[03:35] <cicero_b> got it -- thanks
[03:35] <barrypaxton> my logitech usb headset has no sound can anyone help me
[03:35] <bascule> jacob: well It may not work as yet, just need to wait it out
[03:35] <jacob> ok
[03:35] <Laney_Family> but i have not installed the internal yet to avoid any hd confusion
[03:35] <usr13> fdsajfdjk: It's on the floor, over there in the corner.
[03:35] <bascule> 945GM works for me
[03:35] <^CatMan^> fdsajfdjk: i think it's in the /temp dir, but i'm not sure myself :)
[03:35] <fdsajfdjk> k, thanks ill check that out
[03:35] <jacob> bascule,  i think im going to do a clean install  so i hope that fixes it
[03:35] <bascule> fdsajfdjk: ~/.Trash/
[03:35] <bascule> jacob: well It might well do
[03:36] <pizza> anyone know the root passwd from the livecd?
[03:36] <fdsajfdjk> thanks bascule
[03:36] <usr13> pizza: none
[03:36] <bascule> !root
[03:36] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:36] <jacob> thanks any wa bascule
[03:36] <barrypaxton> my logitech usb headset has no sound can anyone help me
[03:36] <usr13> pizza: sudo
[03:36] <alexwien> pozzzzzzzzzzz
[03:36] <Scunizi> pizza, just hit enter
[03:36] <bascule> jacob: welcome, I tried but hardware is insurmountable
[03:36] <Laney_Family> ubotu: LOL nice
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol nice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <bazhang> Laney_Family: why do it that way? kubuntu and ubuntu differ only in the DE's, not sure about edubuntu, so it would be redundant to install to all those hdd's--best to use those as media storage devices/backup and have the main internal one as your booting os, with a seperate home partition--you can choose the session at startup (kde gnome etc) and eliminate alot of extra work
[03:37] <pocketdrummer> !DVD
[03:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:37] <barrypaxton> my logitech usb headset has no sound can anyone help me
[03:37] <epssy> edubuntu is basically normal ubuntu but with educational software instead
[03:37] <^CatMan^> Laney_Family: i run kubuntu and it's got a few issues, but overall, i'm happy with it :)
[03:37] <barrypaxton> !sound
[03:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:38] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, I second what bazhang said.. it's much easier.. unless you're doing development tweeking and need to distroy one of the systems just for experimentation
[03:38] <bazhang> Laney_Family: and if / when you want to install a completely different distro (unlikely but might happen) then you can isntall over the / partition and /home will be left untouched
[03:38] <Jared>  guys.... my "network manager" icon top right on sys tray has somehow gotten "squashed"! Now just a thin line can't see any signal bars now! (wifi).. squashed between bluetooth and the seach icon, anyone know how to restore that???
[03:38] <Laney_Family> Bazhang: why?, because I didnt know that, lol, im rather new, i tried ubuntu when it was a mere early stages and have not been back since, so i was wanting to know the diff, learn by exp.
[03:39] <^CatMan^> bazhang: really? now's a great time to tell me that! lol
[03:39] <steven__> i have been trying for two days to get my cam working and my printer, i think im going to have to give up
[03:39] <Laney_Family> also the idea is to setup another sys just for my son (5 years old and can build a dead rig almost on his own!!!) and at that time just move the removeable drive over
[03:39] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, are you using ubuntu now.. how about trying "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" from the terminal then log out click the sessions button and change to kde.. lots of fun :)
[03:39] <usr13> steven__: What printer do you have?
[03:39] <bazhang> Laney_Family: so in the extreme unlikely situation that you want to change to #fedora, then your home partition would still be there and you could go on as usual without all the backups/headaches etc
[03:39] <kostkon> steven__, and which webcam
[03:39]  * ^CatMan^ agrees with Scunizi :)
[03:39] <steven__> lexmark x1290 usb all in one
[03:40] <hw00djohn> where can i find a package to support my webcam?
[03:40] <^CatMan^> tho i admit i have at leaste attempted gnome :D
[03:40] <steven__> logitech quickcam 9.5 usb
[03:40] <kostkon> hw00djohn, what do you mean by that? please be more clear
[03:40] <Scunizi> hw00djohn, what kind of webcam?
[03:40] <usr13> steven__: Look it up:  http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[03:40] <hw00djohn> steven_ how did you know?
[03:40] <Laney_Family> well, that is realy the reason for the other drives in the rig, for data, so backup would not be an issue, and hdds are not an issue for me, i have more than enough of those...
[03:40] <usr13> !printers
[03:40] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:40] <hw00djohn> scunizi i know its a logitech..but im not sure which
[03:41] <bazhang> Laney_Family: when that time comes for your son to have his own it is not a big deal to clone the system to another drive and then get it going on another computer--just food for thought and a perhaps more efficient way of doing what you are proposing
[03:41] <Laney_Family> scunizi: it wont use sudo, says not found... nomater what command i enter
[03:41] <kostkon> hw00djohn, it does not work at all?
[03:41] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, you might also look at installing with the alternate cd since it gives you lvm (logical volume management) an easy way to use several drives as one when the need arrises.
[03:41] <hw00djohn> kostkon i plug it in adn nothing happens
[03:42] <bazhang> Laney_Family: I have to step away for a bit now, it seems that Scunizi has this in hand so if you need help he may be the go-to guy ;]
[03:42] <Scunizi> hw00djohn, check out http://www.ubuntuswitch.com/2006/07/31/logitech-webcam-and-ubuntu-the-nightmare-that-wasnt/  it might help
[03:42] <kostkon> hw00djohn, of course nothing happens. did you test your cam with e.g. ekiga, camorama or cheese to see if it works?
[03:43] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, caps make a difference.. all lower case
[03:43] <hw00djohn> kostkon lol no...didnt know about those. heh
[03:43] <Laney_Family> ALL: ok, going of the assumption i only have one drive in (the curent case) any ideas on why it loads the spalsh image with the loading bar and then this initramfs prompt???, I never actualy hit the gui, and the drive is clean, ive checked.
[03:43] <bazhang> http://www.linuxlove.org/2007/11/12/linux-webcam-microsoft-lifecam-nx-6000-on-ubuntu-and-fedora/ hw00djohn check if your cam is in this list--this may help
[03:43] <Laney_Family> Scunizi: i verified my caps were all lowercase
[03:43] <usr13> steven__: It appears that the Lexmark 1290 is not supported
[03:43] <Laney_Family> i have it up on another monitor now, still did not work...
[03:43] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, are you on the live cd?
[03:44] <Laney_Family> I think so...
[03:44] <Laney_Family> would the file name help any?
[03:44] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, or is it installed.. (I didn't catch the beginning of your conversation with bazhang )
[03:44] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to get DVDs to work?
[03:44] <usr13> !dvd
[03:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:44]  * ^CatMan^ perks up at a BigCanOfTuna :)
[03:45] <pocketdrummer> I have all the gstreamer plugins, xine, totem, everything. Nothing works.
[03:45] <BigCanOfTuna> Redhat has an app (I believe it's called chkconfig) that sets the start/stop levels for init.d scripts....is there an equivalent in Ubuntu?
[03:45] <^CatMan^> sry, couldn't help it :D
[03:45] <Laney_Family> Scunizi, no its not installed, never get that far
[03:45] <usr13> pocketdrummer: Scroll up.
[03:45] <Laney_Family> splash screen, straight to the (initramfs) prompt
[03:46] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, ah.. that's part of the problem.. you can't install kubuntu-desktop with the live cd.. it takes space that you probably don't have in ram.
[03:46] <kdc1956> some dvd will work but not all on mine
[03:46] <Laney_Family> as far as the file i downloaded, i went here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and chose the uper left file
[03:46] <^CatMan^> BigCanOfTuna: sorta, i think i saw one somewhere in kde, otherwise it should be in /etc/init.d/
[03:46] <Laney_Family> the pc has 512 mg ram
[03:46] <pocketdrummer> usr13: Already did that.
[03:46] <Laney_Family> how much does it need?
[03:46] <usr13> pocketdrummer: what error do you get?
[03:46] <dsnyders> Hi all, I figured out my k3b problem. It turned out to be a language update.
[03:46] <barrypaxton> !sound
[03:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:46] <Shuggle> Is there a applet similar to the system monitor applet for the gnome menu bar that will show me the waveform or some sort of graph for the audio coming out of my speaker?
[03:47] <steven__> thanks usr, then ill buy a new one, any recomedations
[03:47] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, that would be the standard live cd.. the alternate is not live but a "text" install.. just as easy to install .. just a couple of more options.
[03:47] <pocketdrummer> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[03:47] <pocketdrummer> usr13: and totem butchers the image
[03:47] <Laney_Family> ok. i see the check box on bottom screen now
[03:48]  * bascule watches a ^CatMan^ talking to a BigCanOfTuna :)
[03:48] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, is Windows currently on the machine?  If so you can dual boot if you want.
[03:48] <Laney_Family> so why will the live cd not boot?
[03:48] <Laney_Family> naa, tis a dead system
[03:48] <Laney_Family> no os
[03:48] <^CatMan^> cool, just in case i make a mistake, huh bascule?
[03:48] <bascule> cats tuna ..
[03:48] <barrypaxton> !sound
[03:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:48] <BigCanOfTuna> ^CatMan^: Actually, I just found it.... update-rc.d
[03:48] <^CatMan^> oh, :D
[03:49] <bascule> !msgthebot > barrypaxton
[03:49] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, could be a problem with the cd.. you have to burn it at the slowest speed possible.  Also there's a difference between burning an ISO vs. data..
[03:49] <^CatMan^> ok BigCanOfTuna :D
[03:49] <Laney_Family> right, that i have
[03:49] <Laney_Family> its a mounted burn, so the data is there
[03:49] <bascule> ^CatMan^: yes :)
[03:49] <Laney_Family> ive burned it 3 times
[03:49] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, did you burn from windows?
[03:49] <Laney_Family> one on first dl, 2 on second
[03:49] <Laney_Family> downoaded twice, burned via nero
[03:49] <Jared>  guys.... my "network manager" icon top right on sys tray has somehow gotten "squashed"! Now just a thin line can't see any signal bars now! (wifi).. squashed between bluetooth and the seach icon, anyone know how to restore that??? Anyone help out??
[03:49] <usr13> pocketdrummer: gxine  dvd:/
[03:50] <Laney_Family> same way i did the edubuntu that worked with no issues....
[03:50] <Laney_Family> that is whats getting me...
[03:50] <^CatMan^> bascule: cool, thanx :) i'm kinda new to linux myself, but i know just enough about it to really screw a system up, now i'd like to learn how to fix my mistakes :)
[03:50] <m0u5e_> i recently changed the size of my swap partition, how to i remap it for use/
[03:50] <steven__> which all in one printer should i buy to avoid problems
[03:50] <usr13> pocketdrummer: totem dvd:/
[03:50] <Flannel> !swap | m0u5e_
[03:50] <ubotu> m0u5e_: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[03:50] <confuse_david> hi
[03:50] <Laney_Family> So can i jsut install the server version and then setup a gui?
[03:51] <Laney_Family> that one will give me the intall gui...
[03:51] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, ok.. if you have edubuntu you can install that then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to get the standard Ubuntu desktop.. then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" for the kde environment.
[03:51] <pocketdrummer> usr13: Xine engine fails to start, Totem, location not found
[03:51] <DG19075> Laney_Family: try a Windows app called BurnCDCC..it works wonderfully and can be gotten for free from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com
[03:52] <usr13> pocketdrummer: mplayer dvd://
[03:52] <confuse_david> I am trying to use opengl wand when I run a simple a.out program I get the following error message "freeglut (a.out): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0''
[03:52] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, sure.. server then install the gui.. that works too.
[03:52] <icesword> could i use nmap to make a clear situation of my network
[03:52] <bascule> confuse_david: glxinfo tells you no extensions? what vga card?
[03:52] <pocketdrummer> usr13: file not found
[03:53] <Laney_Family> ok... SO, how would i install the gui???
[03:53] <bascule> mplayer dvd://1
[03:53] <pocketdrummer> usr13: opening directly with mplayer says "Fatal: could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo)
[03:53] <Laney_Family> would i need additional downloads or are the files on the server dl?
[03:54] <confuse_david> bascule: if you are asking what my video card is, it is a  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[03:54] <usr13> !dvd | pocketdrummer
[03:54] <ubotu> pocketdrummer: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:54] <bascule> confuse_david: got the drivers in? seems not
[03:54] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, you can install using the same lines I gave before.. and no you have to have an internet connection
[03:54] <fus10nx> Anyone here using HDMI for audio as well as video?
[03:54] <confuse_david> I have an ati driver
[03:54] <fus10nx> i am having the most difficult time with this
[03:54] <confuse_david> bascule: I have an ati driver
[03:54] <pocketdrummer> usr13: I've already been through that and did everything it said.
[03:54] <bascule> confuse_david: run glxinfo ina shell what does it say?
[03:54] <Laney_Family> well that i verified, i was impressed how it got realy hard to find drivers for ubuntu
[03:54] <Laney_Family> very impressed
[03:55] <usr13> pocketdrummer: what error do you get?
[03:55] <Laney_Family> but one of the ideas here is to setup the main removable drive as server to coop my server 2003
[03:55] <pocketdrummer> usr13: In the 2nd section "activate DVD Decryption" it says " /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found"
[03:55] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, drivers?  most are included unless you have something out of the norm.. It's not like windows where you install the system then install a bunch of drivers then the programs.
[03:56] <confuse_david> bascule: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56688/
[03:56] <Laney_Family> so yea that will work well
[03:56] <Laney_Family> o yea, that is what i meant Scunizi, that was the impressive part
[03:56] <bascule> confuse_david: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:56] <bascule> !ati | confuse_david
[03:56] <ubotu> confuse_david: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <Laney_Family> so... curiosity, is there a way to make ubuntu server coop with active directory and ldap on a server 2003 system?
[03:57] <confuse_david> ubotu: isn't my video card too old?
[03:57] <bascule> Laney_Family: mostly
[03:57] <fus10nx> Anyone at all using a motherboard with HDMI to use it as both AUDIO and VIDEO?
[03:57] <PStanger15> I cant see my ntfs filesystem on another partition.  ntfs-3g came installed with ubuntu, i used to be able to see it.  there is an sda1 folder in /media but it is empty. any ideas?
[03:57] <Laney_Family> Mostly?
[03:58] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, ldap yes I think so.. active directory is another story.. that you should ask in /join #ubuntu-server
[03:58] <Sunnz2> Help
[03:58] <Laney_Family> augh ok.
[03:58] <bascule> confuse_david: ubotu is a bot, he won't answer, but just try the suggestion
[03:58] <Sunnz2> Can't get my onboard ethernet to work
[03:58] <Sunnz2> Any ideas?
[03:58] <confuse_david> oh
[03:58] <confuse_david> ok
[03:58] <Laney_Family> though im an idiot with this linux (for now)
[03:58] <Sunnz2> I tried ifconfig and can't find it
[03:58] <usr13> pocketdrummer: apt-get install install libdvdcss2
[03:58] <Sunnz2> There are no eth*
[03:58] <Laney_Family> Windows and server2000 and server2003 I am most surely not
[03:59] <usr13> pocketdrummer: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[03:59] <Sunnz2> And the Network Manager thing doesn't have any ethernet device
[03:59] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, that's been an issue for some time.. and there is/are solutions in the works.. I think evolution (pim) and Kontact (pim) will interface to some extent.. but not sure how much.
[03:59] <Laney_Family> hmm. ok
[03:59] <Sunnz2> So how do I get Ubuntu to detect and use my onboard ethernet?
[03:59] <Laney_Family> sounds like a plan..
[03:59] <bascule> PStanger15: try mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o force
[03:59] <usr13> Sunnz2: ifconfig eth0
[03:59] <Laney_Family> aight, well i have it at the partition part of server so well se how that goes
[03:59] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, you might also look into Zimbra as a web based PIM..
[04:00] <pocketdrummer> usr13: "Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:00] <pocketdrummer> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:00] <pocketdrummer> is only available from another source"
[04:00] <pocketdrummer> oops, sorry for spam.
[04:00] <bascule> !medibuntu | pocketdrummer
[04:00] <ubotu> pocketdrummer: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:00] <usr13> pocketdrummer: scroll up and follow instructions.
[04:00] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, it's server based and will interface with Outlook, Evolution, Kontact etc.. POP, Imap, and if you're lucky.. Active Directory.
[04:00] <usr13> pocketdrummer: enable !Universe repos
[04:00] <Laney_Family> augh, i have it open now
[04:00] <Laney_Family> looking into it
[04:00] <Laney_Family> thanks scunizi
[04:01] <PStanger15> bascule: Thanks :)
[04:01] <bascule> PStanger15: welcome
[04:01] <usr13> !Universe
[04:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[04:01] <Scunizi> Laney_Family, sure..  the server install should take maybe 20 to 30 minutes.
[04:01] <pocketdrummer> usr13: They're already enabled
[04:01] <usr13> pocketdrummer: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[04:01] <Sunnz2> usr12, ifconfig eth0 says device not found
[04:01] <deniz__> any1 have an app were i can turn .mpg into .avi?
[04:02] <Roryking> anyone willing to help a fellow with an ATI x1300 get team fortress 2 running properly under wine?
[04:02] <Sunnz2> There are just no eth* to begin with!!!
[04:02] <Laney_Family> I look forward to many more Q to throw ur way ;) im going to start this and head to bead, my lil boy is tird and wife is passed out LOL, THANKS GUYS!
[04:02] <bascule> deniz__: try k9copy
[04:02] <Sunnz2> Which is very weird
[04:02] <Scunizi> deniz__, devede
[04:02] <bascule> thad the n deeveedee
[04:02] <usr13> Sunnz2: ifconfig
[04:02] <bascule> !info deeveedee
[04:02] <ubotu> Package deeveedee does not exist in gutsy
[04:02] <Sunnz2> usr13 like I said I tried that
[04:02] <Scunizi> !info devede
[04:02] <ubotu> devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[04:02] <Sunnz2> no eth* devices
[04:02] <bascule> hah!
[04:02] <Sunnz2> just lo0, wlan0, and wmaster0
[04:02] <Scunizi> bascule, :)
[04:03] <Sunnz2> wlan0 is wireless
[04:03] <deniz__> Scunizi, i have devede! but wat do i click?
[04:03] <bascule> no idea
[04:03] <Sunnz2> wmaster0 I don't know what is
[04:03] <dsnyders> Hi all! What are the script variables for the path part of a file and the filename portion?
[04:03] <Sunnz2> wmaster0 however doesn't seem like the ethernet as dhclient doesn't work on it
[04:04] <Sunnz2> So guys any ideas?
[04:04] <usr13> Sunnz2: Are you connecting to wireless network?
[04:04] <confuse_david> bascule: so are you are saying i need to install a vga driver?
[04:04] <Sunnz2> No
[04:04] <usr13> Sunnz2: Are you connecting to wired network?
[04:04] <Sunnz2> Wired network
[04:04] <hw00djohn> hey, i just set up EKIGA and it's not recognizing my webcam for video, but it gets it for audio...??? it's an HP webcam
[04:04] <Sunnz2> The computer is both wired and wireless device
[04:04] <Scunizi> deniz__, not sure.. there also mencoder which I think will also do the trick but it's command line.
[04:04] <Jared>  guys.... my "network manager" icon top right on sys tray has somehow gotten "squashed"! Now just a thin line can't see any signal bars now! (wifi).. squashed between bluetooth and the seach icon, anyone know how to restore that???
[04:04] <bascule> confuse_david: well it looks that way to me
[04:04] <usr13> Sunnz2: lspck |grep net
[04:04] <barrypaxton> ive tryed all day and still cant get my usb headset to work or my audigy 2 sound card to work i have no sound!!
[04:04] <Sunnz2> The wireless device works but I want to use the wired one
[04:04] <Sunnz2> k
[04:04] <usr13> Sunnz2: What network card do you have?
[04:05] <Sunnz2> Just the built-in one
[04:05] <en3r0_away> hello
[04:05] <kostkon> barrypaxton, audigy should work just fine
[04:05] <bascule> <-- tired
[04:05] <confuse_david> bascule: ok thanks.  Im sorry, but I am still new to linux
[04:05] <barrypaxton> it used 2 work before i updated now it dont
[04:05] <Sunnz2> usr12 built-in onboard gigabit ethernet.
[04:05] <edju> Can I compile a kernel using the Debian method, as described at the Debian site?
[04:05] <kostkon> barrypaxton, check your volume levels
[04:05] <confuse_david> bascule: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-e37bdcfed4ae92ac7a5ef5cbcc66c8ad2ebe6c5f
[04:05] <barrypaxton> i have
[04:05] <bascule> confuse_david: OK, it takes time and patience, no one was an OS expert after a month :)
[04:06] <Sunnz2> usr13 don't you mean lspci | grep net?
[04:06] <kostkon> barrypaxton, also run "alsamixer" from the terminal and check the volume levels there
[04:06] <mage__> hey is there a way to FTP with just one connection? I've got a server that right now I can only log in, doing anything fails
[04:06] <barrypaxton> i did
[04:06] <confuse_david> bascule: thanks
[04:06] <gantrixx> has anyone had problems using open office to read files that are mounted on an nfs partition?
[04:07] <confuse_david> bascule: I am going to try to follow the directions on that website
[04:07] <barrypaxton> im running ubuntu studio shud i switch 2 another version of ubuntu?
[04:07] <bascule> confuse_david: have you added !repos
[04:07] <confuse_david> bascule: !repos ?
[04:07] <bascule> !repos
[04:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[04:07] <Sunnz2> usr13,           lspci | grep -i net only shows up my wireless device, but not the wired one.
[04:08] <barrypaxton> im gonna go reinstall and use regular ubuntu
[04:08] <Sunnz2> So my wired device is not detected... how do I get it detected?
[04:08] <barrypaxton> shud i do that?
[04:08] <kostkon> barrypaxton, I don't think that's necessary. although, I think ubuntu studio is different from the other versions since I think it has jack as its sound server
[04:08] <en3r0> sometimes my keyboard (laptop) stops working
[04:09] <barrypaxton> yeah can i get the software thats on unbuntu studio on regular ubuntu?
[04:09] <pretender> how do you install flash for youtube videos etc in ubuntu 7.10
[04:09] <bascule> pretender:
[04:09] <usr13> Sunnz2: May not be supported.
[04:09] <bascule> em see ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:10] <usr13> !flash | pretender
[04:10] <ubotu> pretender: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:10] <Sunnz2> But it is just a ethernet device!!
[04:10] <bascule> <-- tooooo tired now x]
[04:10] <Jangari> Sunnz2: desktop computer with a network card?
[04:10] <bascule> mv bascule /dev/bed
[04:11] <Sunnz2> Jangari yes desktop, onboard ethernet port
[04:12] <usr13> Sunnz2: If we had more info on your particular ethernet device, we might be able to tell you what driver software to install.
[04:12] <usr13> Sunnz2: lshw
[04:12] <Sunnz2> Ok I'll try that
[04:13] <killown> when I set extra visual effects it hide window border maximize minimize and close anyone can help me fix it?
[04:14] <uzetaab> I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do I add a file to sources.list.d if it's root protected?
[04:15] <usr13> uzetaab: sudo
[04:15] <pretender> thank you also my xchat gnome has a blank icon how do i fix this
[04:16] <usr13> pretender: Right click on the icon -> Properties, click the icon thing in upper left corner and choose one.
[04:16] <Sunnz2> usr13, i did a lshw, can't find the network port in there
[04:17] <pretender> thanks again
[04:17] <usr13> Sunnz2: lspci
[04:17] <hw00djohn> hey, webcam question again.  I have an HP VGA Webcam.  I looked on google for the answer to no avail.  I tried to set it up with ekiga with no success.  Any idea how to get my webcam working?
[04:17] <Sunnz2> usr13 i see things like usb0 which is also build-in to the board
[04:17] <Sunnz2> Just not the etherenet port
[04:17] <pocketdrummer> usr13: Ok, this is what I'm seeing http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/SpikeyHead00/Screenshot.png
[04:18] <usr13> Sunnz2: Sorry, dono what to tell you.  Google it.  google.com/linux
[04:18] <Sunnz2> Google what?
[04:19] <usr13> pocketdrummer: Try mplayer
[04:19] <usr13> pocketdrummer: or totem  or gxine
[04:19] <killown> when I set extra visual effects it hide window border maximize minimize and close anyone can help me fix it?
[04:19] <hw00djohn> help with my webcam plz?
[04:19] <uzetaab> thanks usr13, I'll try sudo
[04:20] <usr13> pocketdrummer: What hardware?  e.g.  What processor and how much memory and what video card do you have?
[04:20] <tyrone> Hello, I'm not sure if you've heard of this, but the kernel header files seem to lack certain files. Particularly module.h. Any idea how to get them in there? Thanks
[04:21] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I can break the protection on an m4p under ubuntu and make it a m4a?
[04:21] <Gr1> how to mount isos, please?
[04:21] <Gr1> O am noobzor.
[04:21] <usr13> mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/somebody/foobar.iso /mnt/iso
[04:21] <ComradeMirror> I have a question for linux is there any sort of object dock program?
[04:21] <no0tic> !iso | Gr1
[04:21] <ubotu> Gr1: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:22] <pocketdrummer> usr13: AMD Athlon 64 4200+ (@ 2.7Ghz), 2Gb PC3200, nvidia 7800GT
[04:22] <jason> anyone have any recommendations for a sound card that supports 5.1?
[04:23] <usr13> pocketdrummer: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:23] <pocketdrummer> usr13: What does that do?
[04:23] <adorablepuppy> Where can I send package requests?
[04:23] <Scunizi> ComradeMirror, you mean like mac's bar at the bottom of the screen?
[04:23] <usr13> pocketdrummer: It will give us a clue as to what video driver you might be using.
[04:24] <ComradeMirror> Scunizi: Sure
[04:24] <usr13> pocketdrummer: grep "nv" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <pocketdrummer> usr13: It says nvidia. I installed the restricted nvidia drivers from the tooltip that popped up after I installed Ubuntu.
[04:24] <tyrone> @ComradeMirror : If your box supports aiglx, then you could look into kiba-dock. It has alot of realy 'neat' features like physics.
[04:24] <Scunizi> ComradeMirror, try AWN .. it's in synaptic.. activate after installing by going to Applications/Accessories/Avant Window Manager  config can be done in System/Preferences/Awn Manager
[04:24] <usr13> pocketdrummer: try mplayer or totem  or gxine
[04:25] <ComradeMirror> thanks
[04:25] <Scunizi> np
[04:25] <confuse_david> bascule: what is repos?
[04:25] <usr13> pocketdrummer: mplayer dvd://
[04:25] <hw00djohn> can someone please help me with my webcam?
[04:25] <moparfan90> i have a broadcom wireless card. is it possible to crack WEP with it?
[04:26] <tyrone> @confuse_david : a repo is a directory with a set of packages. They can even have doubles in two repositories...
[04:26] <ComradeMirror> I looked up AWN in synaptic I can't find it
[04:26] <ComradeMirror> what is the package called you know?
[04:27] <confuse_david> tyrone: oh
[04:27] <joecurlee> hi. i'm having some major problems with a video capture card and mythtv... can't get the HD to work, and can't get any audio from the card at all (audio works for everything else on the computer, just not the capture card)
[04:27] <jason> moparfan90: if your trying to break into someones wireless network it doesn't really matter what card you're using, but you probably won't be told how to accomplish such a thing here
[04:28] <joecurlee> the card is Pinnacle PCTV HD PCI... i've been spending pretty much the entire day on this and am about to lose my mind
[04:28] <zcat[1]> it does matter, some cards are better for setting MAC address or spoofing packets
[04:28] <pretender> my xchat gnome has no icon how do i fix this
[04:28] <hw00djohn> still looking for help wiht my webcam
[04:28] <regeya> bwahaha
[04:28] <AntiUSA> does anyone know how to get past the login on Cedega 6?
[04:29] <joecurlee> I've upgraded my ALSA drivers for the sound, but to no avail... i followed instructions that supposedly make the card work for HD, also to no avail... so...
[04:29] <regeya> nice politics...hm...
[04:29] <adorablepuppy> hw00djohn: Punch it and eat some applesauce, That makes me feel better about my hardware problems.
[04:29] <AntiUSA> hah, I don't like Texas either ;)
[04:29] <Gr1> what constitues a mount point for iso mounting>
[04:29] <hw00djohn> adorablepuppy: i'm allergic to apples, and sauce
[04:29] <zcat[1]> jason: we had a presentation at the LUG last year, 9 minutes to crack WPA (it actually took slightly less) which was quite impressive. all free tools too
[04:30] <regeya> heh AntiUSA
[04:30] <AntiUSA> does anyone know how to get past the login on Cedega 6?
[04:30] <adorablepuppy> hw00djohn: What type of webcam is it?
[04:30] <|thunder> exploit - X.Org xorg-server <= 1.1.1-48.13 Probe for Files Exploit PoC    -    ouch,....
[04:30] <confuse_david> bascule: according to website I went to, my video card is too old
[04:30] <zulerdongle> hello again. I just have one quick question. IS there any way to update ubuntu 6.10 to 7.10 by downloading and installing certain files (i mean like an update through the synaptic package manager for example)? Im asking this because I can run 7.10 fine on my desktop but for some reasons the install cd's crashed on my laptop which currently has 6.10 . Thanks.
[04:30] <tyrone> joecurlee : It depends on the driver. From my experiences in this, if its not one of the few currently under development.. your going to have alot of issues
[04:30] <EADG> Gr1: Where you want to have to iso located, for ex in media/fooiso/
[04:30] <safiyyah> why doesnt the amazon "search inside" feature work on firefox?
[04:30] <regeya> actually I shoudl be antiIL (for illinois) holy cow AntiUSA I need to renew cedega..haven't used it in ages
[04:30] <hw00djohn> it's an HP VGA Webcam, adorablepuppy.
[04:31] <joecurlee> tyrone: should i just return the card and get one that's made for linux?
[04:31] <Gr1> OK
[04:31] <Gr1> THANKS
[04:31] <Gr1> I'll try
[04:31] <jason> zulerdongle: if you open up synaptic it should just give you the option to do a distribution upgrade
[04:31] <joecurlee> that's what I'm leaning towards now
[04:31] <genii> zulerdongle: For dist upgrade you need to go 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10
[04:31] <AntiUSA> yeah I remember back in the day if you just had a sub for a month you could download it and keep it
[04:31] <Jared> <zulerdongle: Run the install in safe mode
[04:31] <adorablepuppy> hw00djohn: lemme see what I can dig up
[04:31] <AntiUSA> but now whenever I try to use the new Cedega 6 there is a login that pops up
[04:31] <AntiUSA> every fucking time
[04:31] <Jared> <zulerdongle: probably a video problem
[04:31] <MAA> hey
[04:31] <MAA> i just setup ubuntu
[04:32] <MAA> and loving it
[04:32] <zcat[1]> AntiUSA: give up, just dual-boot :)
[04:32] <zulerdongle> genii thanks
[04:32] <AntiUSA> lol
[04:32] <AntiUSA> that is not helpful
[04:32] <hw00djohn> adorablepuppy: i appreciate it..i checked google and the ubuntu forums with no success...maybe you'll be better than me
[04:32] <MAA> whats hte problem
[04:32] <zulerdongle> jared thanks.. but how do i run the install in safe mode, do i have to select safe mode in the grub boot menu?
[04:32] <bloodhacker> ya whats going on
[04:32] <help> Wtf just happened, i minimized all my apps running, and now my desktop pictures is a massive digital slr picture, and all my icons are missing
[04:32] <help> (under the picture, and I cant rightclick on my desktop)
 : before doing that, it would be good to find out what driver you should be looking for.. i think mine was ivtv.. and it caused my card to crash the box. I'll check it out..
[04:33] <Jared> <zulerdongle: at bootup from the install CD, you will see the option to install in safe mode (something like that)
[04:33] <zcat[1]> my kids have a windows partition for games they get from the library, I just can't be bothered messing around with wine or cedega for a game they'll only use a week and return
[04:33] <Jared> <zulerdongle: I have an ATI x600 I had to do it that way to get it to work
[04:33] <Pandemic187> Hey all.
[04:33] <Gr1> How to unmount?
[04:33] <MAA> zcat wine is ismple
[04:33] <MAA> on ubunut
[04:33] <joecurlee> tyrone: i thought this would solve my woes as it's the exact card i have: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_HD_Card_%28800i%29
[04:33] <zcat[1]> and lately they can't be bothered getting them out at all 'cos booting to windows just to play some crappy game is too much bother too
[04:33] <Jared> <zulerdongle: Booting off the install CD that is
[04:34] <MAA> i just set up wine
[04:34] <m0u5e> for swap, how does one go about acquiring the UUID located in /etc/fstab ?
[04:34] <confuse_david> when I type lspci|grep -i vga, I get 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[04:34] <MAA> on my ubuntu its flawless
[04:34] <Pandemic187> I deleted a couple of icons from my panel. Can someone tell me how to get them back?
[04:34] <m0u5e> is there an fdisk --verbose function?
[04:34] <genii> m0u5e: blkid
[04:34] <confuse_david> does that mean i have a compatable video card?
[04:34] <m0u5e> ahh thx
[04:34] <bluefoxx> ok, so after hacking apart an s-video cable and an composite video cable i got video out working for my nvidia 6200. my only problem is i wish to use the television[which displays at 1024x768] as a separate display device from my monitor[1280x1024] for showing off movies and websites, among other things. the problem here is that in nvidia-settings it will only display on the TV in twinview, with me using the TV as a cloned display
[04:34] <bluefoxx> else i lose some of the screen...how can i get the TV as a seperate display device? as the "save to x configuration file" results in "unable to create backup ~xorg.conf in <location"
[04:34] <genii> m0u5e: np
[04:34] <silas428> can anyone help me to get an ASUS wl-167g wlan adapter to work? I can't seem to compile from the instructions it comes with
[04:34] <zcat[1]> MAA: wine is NOT simple.. you cannot just put a windows game on CD in and have it install and work, not even old crappy win98 games
[04:34] <zulerdongle> jared: oh... i thought you meant update in safe mode.. well since my laptops dvd drive has a LOT of trouble reading disks im going to trying to upgrade online and if that doesnt work ill simply try your method. thanks
[04:34] <Estreyela> actually, that works for a lot of old games
[04:34] <usr13> Pandemic187: right click on empty spot on panel and add what you want
[04:35] <Jared> <zulerdongle: np... good luck
[04:35] <tyrone> joecurlee : I'll check it out
[04:35] <credible> confuse_david: just use the default driver
[04:35] <helppppppppp> Wtf just happened, i minimized all my apps running, and now my desktop pictures is a massive digital slr picture, and all my icons are missing
[04:35] <helppppppppp> (11:34:37 PM) help: (under the picture, and I cant rightclick on my desktop)
[04:35] <bluefoxx> also, is there a good manual page for nvidia-settings? i wish to know what all of these settings do...
[04:35] <Pandemic187> usr13: Right. But these aren't in the list. Trying to readd Pidgin and the network icon.
[04:35] <jason> zulerdongle: you could also try the alternate ubuntu cd, many people who've had troubles with the normal install cd don't have problems with the alternate
[04:35] <zcat[1]> It's never worked for me, not even once, not even when I get bleeding edge versions of wine from bleeding-edge repos (budgetdedicated?)
[04:35] <usr13> Pandemic187: You have it in the Applications menu, right?
[04:35] <EADG> bluefoxx: need to run the nvidea config program as root, had that same error message awhile back.
[04:35] <Pandemic187> Which one, usr13 ?
[04:36] <Jared> This is driving me NUTS!!!  guys.... my "network manager" icon top right on sys tray has somehow gotten "squashed"! Now just a thin line can't see any signal bars now! (wifi).. squashed between bluetooth and the seach icon, anyone know how to restore that??? Anyone help out??
[04:36] <Gr1> how do you unmount an ISO?
[04:36] <confuse_david> credible: ok  but if I type in glxinfo, I get this crap...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56688/
[04:36] <bluefoxx> like "sync blitter to vblank on display device<TV0 or Xmon0>"
[04:36] <usr13> Pandemic187: Drag it from Applications menu to panel
[04:36] <bluefoxx> EADG, ok, will try that, ty
[04:36] <tyrone> joecurlee : right away, it looks like hardy or its future updates will support your card by default. kernel 2.6.25.. the latest is .24 i believe... and i read on..
[04:36] <bloodhacker> hey guys i am kinda new to all this xchat stuff. so is this all you guys do is talk about Ubuntu
[04:36] <Pandemic187> usr13: Right...but I want the icon that changes.
[04:36] <joecurlee> tyrone: where are you seeing this at?
[04:36] <Gr1> in the ubuntu channe;
[04:37] <Gr1> channel*
[04:37] <Gr1> ...
[04:37] <usr13> Pandemic187: Is it still in the trash bin?
[04:37] <zcat[1]> Gr1: sudo umount /media/whereyoumountedit
 lolzz in this channel, Hmm.. yeah
[04:37] <Pandemic187> usr 13 nope.
[04:37] <pawan> hi
[04:37] <pawan> unable to load nvidia drivers
[04:37] <usr13> Pandemic187: Dono what to tell you, sorry.
[04:37] <bloodhacker> cool man
[04:38] <Pandemic187> Ugh.
[04:38] <tyrone> joecurlee : the pinacle page, second line of the first paragraph
[04:38] <zcat[1]> !offtopic | bloodhacker
[04:38] <Gr1> pawan
[04:38] <credible> confuse_david: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:38] <Gr1> be more specific
[04:38] <credible> !pastebin
[04:38] <zcat[1]> it's all we're allowed to talk about :)
[04:38] <Pandemic187> Does anyone know how I can get the pidgin icon back on my panel?
[04:38] <bloodhacker>  what
[04:38] <bloodhacker> is ther a rule about being off topic
[04:39] <jason> pandemic187: you can right click on the panel and select add, then select pidgin
[04:39] <hdevalence> doues (k)ubuntu have a thing like debian where you can download a million CDs and then install stuff without the network?
[04:39] <Pandemic187> That's not in the list, jason.
[04:39] <zcat[1]> yeah, not rigidly enforced, but if you stray too far they'll tell you off
[04:39] <jason> pandemic187: if pidgin is on your normal menu you can also right click on the menu item and select add to panel
[04:39] <tyrone> joecurlee : did you install the firmware as well as the driver?
[04:40] <usr13> Pandemic187: apt-get remove pidgen
[04:40] <usr13> Pandemic187: apt-get install pidgen
[04:40] <bloodhacker> zcat are you tallking to me?
[04:40] <joecurlee> tyrone: yes, followed all instructions on that link
[04:40] <Pandemic187> I actually just tried that usr13
[04:40] <confuse_david> credible: hey here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56691/
[04:40] <Pandemic187> Unless it would require a reboot or something
[04:41] <jason> linux should never require a reboot outside of kernel updates
[04:41] <usr13> Pandemic187: I dono :)
[04:41] <zcat[1]> bloodhacker: yes .. I don't always bother with the name first tho :)
[04:41] <Pandemic187> lame.
[04:41] <credible> confuse_david: wow, try this: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-core
[04:41] <zcat[1]> jason: hoe about updates to init ?
[04:41] <Pandemic187> How can there be no way to get it back?
[04:41] <tyrone> joecurlee : can you confirm that your lspci -vvnn output matches the page's output?
[04:41] <joecurlee> tyrone: i'm more or less a newb with linux, how do i do so?
[04:41] <bloodhacker> zcat how do i tallk to just you? like you are doing to me..
[04:41] <usr13> Pandemic187: You prolly already got it back.  Fire it up and see.
[04:41] <confuse_david> credible: what is so amazing?
[04:41] <wwalker> How do I play real Media files under ubuntu?
[04:42] <zcat[1]> bloodhacker: just type the name first.
[04:42] <Pandemic187> I did.
[04:42] <tyrone> joecurlee : have you ever used a terminal/command line before?
[04:42] <usr13> wwalker: Instal realplayer
[04:42] <bloodhacker> zcat like this
[04:42] <Pandemic187> It didn't come back, usr13
[04:42] <credible> confuse_david: that you're missing the actual libglx.so
[04:42] <zcat[1]> bloodhacker: yeah
[04:42] <joecurlee> tyrone: yes everyday :) but on os x
[04:42] <neolith2099> where can I find a hardware compat list for ubuntu?
[04:42] <bloodhacker> zcat oo ok i see
[04:42] <confuse_david> credible: ok i just did.  really.
[04:42] <joecurlee> tyrone: just need to know the command
[04:42] <confuse_david> credible: i just installed
[04:42] <bloodhacker> zcat man this is razzy cool
[04:42] <credible> confuse_david: now restart X
[04:43] <usr13> Pandemic187: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[04:43] <bloodhacker> zcat i am new to xchat
[04:43] <confuse_david> credible: how do you restart x or do you mean restart computer?
[04:43] <Pandemic187> Restart X?
[04:43] <nano__> hey guys, i just connected my ipod to my ubuntu system (after i installed gtkpod) and somehow my ipod was automatically mounted to /media/xxxxxxx  ...... but there is no corresponding entry in fstab , so how could this be?
[04:43] <Pandemic187> Okay I'll try that.
[04:43] <tyrone> joecurlee : well don't sweat it.. os x and linux are relatives. Just open up a term.. if you don't know where look in applications accessories. Then type in lspci -vvnn | less
[04:43] <credible> confuse_david: log out and hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:43] <confuse_david> ok
[04:43] <confuse_david> thanks
[04:44] <zcat[1]> bloodhacker: this is not a great channel to start out on, lots of traffic so it's hard to follow, plus we're gonna get told off for beinf OT soon :)
[04:44] <akbrennan> hi all
[04:45] <genii> nano__: fstab does not usually hold transient or temporary media.
[04:45] <Pandemic187> Yep, didn't work.
[04:45] <Pandemic187> wow
[04:45] <neolith2099> bloodhacker, join the party..in a channel of 1100+ people!
[04:45] <bloodhacker> zcat oooo i thot only me and yo could see this
[04:45] <bloodhacker> zcat ok
[04:45] <zcat[1]> bloodhacker: nope..
[04:45] <tyrone> joecurlee : just so you know, ls is the list command, and lspci is a command that lists all known pci connections, | is pipe (you probably know that), and less is a term program that makes it easier to scroll through output
[04:45] <wwalker> usr13: got an apt source for that?
[04:45] <neolith2099> bloodhacker: we all C U!
[04:45] <dygital> Hello. Is there an app that does similar functions like CCleaner does on windows?
[04:45] <usr13> wwalker: For what?
[04:45] <bluefoxx> EADG, ok, seems to have saved, going to restart X now...
[04:45] <nano__> genii: so fstab typically holds permanent (ie. always physcially connected) volumes
[04:45] <joecurlee> tyrone: cool... so there is a tone of output from that though
[04:45] <emmajane> genii: I thought it did for CDROM drives... or is that the old way of doing things?
[04:45] <wwalker> usr13: sorry, realplayer
[04:46] <joecurlee> tyrone: don't want to post it all here... anything to look for?
[04:46] <nano__> emmajane: good point....cdroms are temporary?
[04:46] <nano__> i would think
[04:46] <usr13> wwalker: Oh, I dono, just go to http://www.real.com/linux
[04:46] <confuse_david> credible: THANK YOU
[04:46] <emmajane> nano__: Well you have to unmount a CD to pop it out of the player...
[04:46] <genii> nano__: The removable things can also have fstab entries like CD. But it does not always know aead of time what things you are plugging in for instance until you do it.
[04:47] <tyrone> joecurlee : try to compare it to the output on that page you sent me
[04:47] <dygital> Hello. Is there an app that does similar functions like CCleaner does on windows?
[04:47] <zcat[1]> what does ccleaner do?
[04:47] <dygital> (sent again, thought it got lost in the answers above...)
[04:48] <dygital> it cleans out all the caches and temp files
[04:48] <nano__> genii: so wat ur trying to say is that although a cd can contain anything, fstab anticipates that a cd drive is physically connected, as opposed to an external usb stick for example
[04:48] <EADG> lol
[04:48] <usr13> wwalker: sudo sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:48] <mohadib_> dygital rm -Rf /tmp/*
[04:48] <tyrone> joecurlee : if it makes you feel any better i'm having problems of my own with drivers... i'm trying to make one but i'm missing the most critical file on my system :(
[04:48] <emmajane> (back in teh day you could also put memory sticks into /etc/fstab)
[04:48] <dygital> moh: ok...
[04:48] <bluefoxx> EADG, ok, it worked but now i lost my compiz, which i need for certain things[gdesklets for example, are not working...]
[04:48] <genii> nano__: You can add removable media to fstab, is best to use options like sync for writeable media. Aslo the uuid and not /dev name since an usb drive can be sdb one day and sdc another day depending how many you have and what order you plug them in
[04:48] <dygital> but there's other caches too, right? like apt-get autoclean, etc
[04:49] <Onyx> nutsack
[04:49] <dygital> firefox's cache
[04:49] <zcat[1]> you can still put memory sticks in fstab ... jyou just gotta trust that they'll always get detected as the same device
[04:49] <nano__> genii: what do entries such as UUID=506c9742-a80a-4971-99d4-ab610765335f  in my fstab mean?  I would think that these are volume labels. but what does the acronym UUID sand for?
[04:49] <mohadib_> dygital no app like that that i am aware of
[04:49] <nano__> *stand for
[04:49] <dygital> maybe if I learned a bit of bash scripting, I could have it do that.
[04:49] <genii> zcat[1]: Hence my recommend for uuid
[04:49]  * emmajane nods at genii about the sdb and sdc bit.
[04:49] <EADG> bluefoxx: I don't really know anything about compiz, I spend most my time on the console.
[04:49] <confuse_david> credible: can you explain what I did
[04:50] <confuse_david> ?
[04:50] <mohadib_> dygital  make a file with #!/binbash at the top , then put one bash command per line
[04:50] <computer_> what is a good gui program to make .iso files?
[04:50] <mohadib_> should be pretty east
[04:50] <bluefoxx> EADG, ah, ok
[04:50] <mohadib_> easy
[04:50] <zcat[1]> genii: D'Oh!! Than has been bothering me for ages.. I have a friend uses text only (he's blind) so I put his mp3 player in fstab.. I just figured out I should be using the UUID not /dev/sda :)
[04:50] <emmajane> nano__ http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Auuid
[04:50] <genii> nano__: uuid= universally unique identifier ...like a MAC for network
[04:50] <dygital> computer: i found a good one earlier tonight... "AcetoneISO"
[04:50] <EADG> bluefoxx: Ask away though, I'm sure somebody in here knows something, might try #compiz also.
[04:50] <nano__> thanks guys
[04:50] <dygital> also K3B
[04:51] <bluefoxx> so anyone else know how i can keep seperate Xscreens[moniter and TV] and still have all my compiz? i have my window bar plauged by all my desklets
[04:51] <genii> zcat[1]: Heh :) Hopefully you know about blkid then
[04:51] <Marupa> Is there a way to copy an entire file system over to another drive but /keep/ all the permissions?  I need to transport an entire installation from one drive to another over SSH.  Is it possible?
[04:51] <dygital> mohadib: i'll try that. thanks
[04:51] <computer_> thnx
[04:51] <credible> confuse_david: somehow you deleted /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so
[04:51] <mohadib_> Marupa yes
[04:51] <emmajane> Marupa: using the -p parameter will "keep permissions" assuming the user exists on both systems (if across a network)
[04:51] <zcat[1]> genii: cos sometimes it comes up as /dev/sdb and he can't mount it (gets a bit confused about how to find it and mount it with teh full mount options)
[04:51] <mohadib_> tar up all the partions
[04:52] <Marupa> emma, scp?  or what?
[04:52] <mohadib_> and trasnfer with ssh
[04:52] <mohadib_> and untar
[04:52] <emmajane> Marupa: scp -pr localfilestomove login@remotesite
[04:52] <mohadib_> (After you partion)
[04:52] <joecurlee> tyrone: thanks for the help thus far, checking the output now... i've had nothing but frustrations since day one with this system, but i've made some real progress with it... the capture card is the last step
[04:52] <emmajane> Marupa: that's what I use (secure copy)
[04:52] <Marupa> emma, THANK you :D  My drive crashed.
[04:52] <hw00djohn> anyone care to help me wiht my webcam?
[04:52] <genii> zcat[1]: When you have a drive plugged in, the command blkid should tell the UUID when it exists (some removable media do not have them, oddly)
[04:52] <Marupa> emma, have to do it as root, most likely then, right/
[04:52] <emmajane> Marupa: ruhoh! because you tried to do secure copy onto it?!
[04:52] <zcat[1]> genii: yeah, I've used that when I clone an install from one disk to another, have to rewrite the id's in fstab and grub
[04:52] <Marupa> emma, No, drive failure.  Trying to salvage it.
[04:53] <emmajane> Marupa: AHH! I thought you meant I caused it to crash. ;)
[04:53] <emmajane> (check the nick... you'll get emma all excited. I'm emmajane)
[04:53] <dygital> mohadib, should I use "#!/binbash" or "#!/bin/bash" ?
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> What was the "Print Current Directory" command again?
[04:53] <mohadib_> #!/bin/bash
[04:53] <dygital> cool. thx
[04:53] <mohadib_> np
[04:53] <EADG> Odd-rationale: pwd
[04:53] <dygital> pwd
[04:53] <Odd-rationale> ok Thanks!
[04:54] <emmajane> Marupa: You need to have permission on the remote drive to put the files there and read permission on the local drive. Otherwise, you're right... use root.
[04:54] <tyrone> joecurlee : believe me, I started two years ago and I had to endure crashes every other minute for 30 restarts in a day. all random. In two years, linux has jumped from ok to great.. at this rate, hardy will solve half our problems. Hang on for a few more kernel releases and you'll be amazed.
[04:54] <Marupa> emmajane, any pitfalls you know about, or should I be able to sudo scp -pr / somedest@somedest?
[04:54] <confuse_david> credible: so you had me do "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" and that resinstalled libglx?
[04:54] <killown> ow do i convert a tar.bz2 to a tar.gz?
[04:54] <credible> confuse_david: nope
[04:54] <emmajane> Marupa: hrm. It won't warn you if you're about to overwrite something. That's the only one I can think of.
[04:54] <mohadib_> Marupa i would not do that
[04:54] <credible> confuse_david: you don't need fglrx, I had you reinstall the xserver-xorg-core package
[04:54] <mohadib_> Marupa at least tar up /
[04:54] <fuffalo> How do I mount a folder on another ubuntu box on my machine (if i have ssh access)
[04:54] <Marupa> emma, the destination drive is blank.
[04:54] <mohadib_> movine files with scp has a lot of overhead
[04:54] <Marupa> mohadib_, Not enough room.
[04:55] <mohadib_> so complress them
[04:55] <mohadib_> ah
[04:55] <emmajane> mohadib_: can't you copy the whole drive image and mount it elsewhere?
[04:55] <mohadib_> it will takr forrever to move all those small files
[04:55] <Marupa> I've only got 2GB free, and it's taking up 4.
[04:55] <mohadib_> emmajane sure can
[04:55] <EADG> fuffalo: sshfs remoteip:/dir /local/mount/piont
[04:55] <confuse_david> credible: oh ok
[04:55] <Marupa> mohadib_, gigabit ethernet :3
[04:55] <switch__> killown: unzip with bzip and then compress it with gzip
[04:55] <Jangari> Marupa: what about sshfs'ing to the server? takes the annoying bits out ofscp'ing
[04:56] <mohadib_> Marupa your connection will not be the bottle neck i would guess
[04:56] <joecurlee> tyrone: yea i'm pretty much in for the long haul now... i've spent too many nights on this to quit :)
[04:56] <mohadib_> Marupa encryption is not cheap
[04:56] <emmajane> mohadib_: what's the syntax for it? I always forget... maybe Marupa should use that instead?
[04:56] <dygital> mohadib, should I save the bash script with a .sh or something?
[04:56] <Marupa> let me finish partitioning my destination drive...
[04:56] <bluefoxx> ok, so i have a second moniter going in the form of an CRT telivisionthat i want to use as a dedicated moniter for movies, but after getting it going seperately[it only worked as twinview cloned] i have lost my compiz effects, including a important one like widget layer and annotations. how can i get these back. oh and the computer that has the problem is the one im typing this from, only one that will connect to the internet and t
[04:56] <bluefoxx> hus is my main
[04:56] <mohadib_> emmajane for making an image or taring up something?
[04:57] <emmajane> mohadib_: for making an image. I used to do that for backups...
[04:57] <mohadib_> emmajane you can use dd easily enogh dd if=/ of=dirve.iso
[04:57] <emmajane> mohadib_: and then mount the partition on the other machine...
[04:57] <mohadib_> iirc
[04:57] <switch__> My operating system is requiring me to have superuser privilege to listen on port 80 but not on some other ports.  What's the deal with this?
[04:57] <mohadib_> then you mount as a loopback device iirc
[04:57]  * emmajane nods that looks familiar.
[04:57] <confuse_david> credible: ok I have only one more question.  what is the purpose that log file you had me paste?
[04:57] <mohadib_> been a while
[04:58] <dygital> mohadib_,  how do I run the script I made
[04:58]  * emmajane nods to mohadib_ the mount as loopback device is definitely right.
[04:58] <mohadib_> chmod +x  script  ./script
[04:58]  * emmajane nods and checks to see if she's got it written down.
[04:58] <Marupa> So, can someone PM me the fastest method to grab all the files, keeping permissions, users, and grab every file?
[04:58] <mohadib_> mount -o loop lol
[04:58] <emmajane> Marupa:  is it a linux machine you're trying to restore/save/etc?
[04:58] <mohadib_> i forget
[04:58] <sluggo> switch__: all ports 1024 and below require root privileges
[04:58] <mohadib_> its right in the man
[04:59] <switch__> thanks sluggo.
[04:59] <Marupa> emmajane.  dying machine is debian, my comp is ubuntu.
[04:59] <emmajane> k
[04:59] <dygital> Marupa, netcat if over the network, I think. Locally, the DD command works well.
[04:59] <joecurlee> tyrone: the first difference is the latency... on the website it's 32, mine is 64 not sure what that means though
[05:00] <emmajane> Marupa: go with the solution that we're trying to work out for the full disk image.
[05:00] <mohadib_> emmajane yes , its mount -o loop
[05:00] <joecurlee> also, th capabilities for me say "access denied" not sure if that's because i ran your command without sudo or because there's a problem
[05:00] <emmajane> Marupa: then it'll be like mounting your old hardrive as a perfectly intact unit on your new system.
[05:00] <tyrone> joecurlee : latency is an issue on the scheduling for the interupts, I believe. had a little experience with a low latency kernel in ubuntu-studio... Assuming everything is correct.. I will try and find an error guide. Tell me, did you get any errors at all during/after the install?
[05:01] <Some_Person> How do I make this thing collate?
[05:01] <Marupa> emmajane, as long as all the users/permissions are intact, awesome.
[05:01] <emmajane> Marupa: I don't see why they wouldn't be.
[05:02] <Marupa> emmajane, even if they don't exist on the destination drive?
[05:02] <emmajane> Marupa: you're copying a snapshot of the system, not the files themselves (it'll only be one huge file)
[05:02] <Some_Person> How do I print with collate?
[05:02] <joecurlee> tyrone: no errors at all... also i ran command again with sudo and this time i see the capabilities info
[05:02] <Marupa> well...Hold on.
[05:02] <Marupa> What I want to do is this:
[05:02] <tyrone> joecurlee : Oh, and maybe the module isn't loading at all.
[05:02] <joecurlee> tyrone: how do i check on that?
[05:02] <tyrone> joecurlee : that's interesting. I gotta find the name of the driver.. what is it?
[05:02] <emmajane> Marupa: you'll get random numbers instead of legit users/groups if they don't exist, but you'd have that anyway and they'll fix themselves if you remount after creating the appropriate users.
[05:03] <joecurlee> tyrone: the name of the driver?
[05:03] <tyrone> joecurlee :yes
[05:03] <Marupa> I have a failing drive in a linux box.  I have a destination drive in my current box that, after copying the files to it, will go BACK into the server as a replacement drive.
[05:03] <Some_Person> How do I get this darn thing to collate?
[05:03] <dygital> Marupa, I tried the command like you mentioned, and it didn't work. When I try to execute the script, it says its not found.  I'm running it from the same folder. In the terminal, it gives me "bash: wipetemp: command not found" (I've named it wipetemp)
[05:03] <joecurlee> tyrone: i honestly have no idea... it's provided by video 4 linux... you have to download the "v4l-dvb tree"
[05:04] <Plight> hey, are there any open source webcam drivers?
[05:04] <norml_advocate> can I talk about audacity on this channel?  or is there a better one?
[05:04] <emmajane> Marupa: if you have a disk image you can move that .img file anywhere and mount it. MUCH cleaner than copying.
[05:04] <dygital> err, for mohadib_  **
[05:04] <mohadib_> yep
[05:04] <mohadib_> copying / over ssh seems tiresome
[05:04] <norml_advocate> can I talk about audacity on this channel?  or is there a better one?
[05:04]  * emmajane nods to mohadib_. Agreed now that I understand...
[05:05] <Marupa> emmajane, But it wouldn't work, I dont think.  Technically I'm wanting to mirror from one drive to another manually, to replace the drive physically.
[05:05] <Some_Person> Where is the option to make this damn thing collate?
[05:05] <norml_advocate> how do I make audacity work?
[05:05] <tyrone> joecurlee : alright then... try lsmod | grep v | less   The v is since no matter what it should start with that..
[05:05] <norml_advocate> i do not have any editing options
[05:05] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys what packages would i have to install to do development with gtk2.0
[05:05] <Marupa> I can't have an image file only.  That's pretty worthless in a headless server.
[05:05]  * dygital waits patiently for mohadib_  to school me. 
[05:05] <cag> hey I know I should ask this in #xubuntu but no one is responding...
[05:05] <mohadib_> dygital you had another question?
[05:05] <tyrone> joecurlee : if that doesn't turn up.. try lsmod | less    and browse to see if you can find something like that
[05:06] <joecurlee> tyrone: ok what am i looking for with this output?
[05:06] <dygital> mohadib_, I tried the command like you mentioned, and it didn't work. When I try to execute the script, it says its not found.  I'm running it from the same folder. In the terminal, it gives me "bash: wipetemp: command not found" (I've named it wipetemp)
[05:06] <mohadib_> my irc client does not highlight my nick , so kind of hard to keepup :p
[05:06] <pmratpoison> hello! I want to autostart thunderbird with my sessions, but I want it to start minimised. What options should I use?
[05:06] <emmajane> Marupa: Right now you're just trying to get teh files out cleanly.
[05:06] <Some_Person> Where is the option to make this damn thing collate?
[05:06] <Plight> Are there any open source webcam drivers for 'creative?
[05:06] <Marupa> emma, Ahh.
[05:06] <tyrone> joecurlee : anything that looks like v4l.. video 4 linux.. dvb.. something
[05:06] <mohadib_> dygital did you use ./scriptname ?
[05:06] <Marupa> so, what was the command again?
[05:06] <joecurlee> tyrone: well here's something.. v4l1_compat and v4l2_common
[05:07] <emmajane> Marupa: we need to figure out which file the image is in.
[05:07] <tyrone> joecurlee ; aha.. but now I gotta find out if that's the right one.
[05:07] <emmajane> Marupa: it'll be in one of the /dev files
[05:07] <dygital> mohadib_,  I've named it "wipetemp"  and used your command but changed it  chmod +x  wipetemp ./wipetemp  ... ?
[05:07] <AnonCon> hello
[05:07] <joecurlee> tyrone: cool
[05:07] <Plight> I'm trying to install a webcam, what packages do i need?
[05:07] <Marupa> emmajane, What?  I haven't made any images yet.
[05:07] <mohadib_> dygital you ran that as two differient commands?
[05:08] <AnonCon> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time, what now?
[05:08] <emmajane> Marupa: Just a sec, I'm trying to figure it on my own machine.
[05:08] <dygital> i think so
[05:08] <cag> how do I reset my xfce settings to show my damn taskbars?
[05:08] <norml_advocate> HOW DO I MAKE AUDACITY WORK?
[05:08] <norml_advocate> HOW DO I MAKE AUDACITY WORK?
[05:08] <s0ulstice_> hello
[05:08] <norml_advocate> HI
[05:08] <pmratpoison> !patience > norml_advocate
[05:09] <dygital> Plight, what happens when you unplug and plug in your webcam? I have one too and thats what I did.
[05:09] <Some_Person> Where is the option to make this damn thing collate?
[05:09] <emmajane> Marupa: take a look in /dev/ ... have you got sda, sda1, sda2, sda etc?
[05:09] <s0ulstice_> pmratpoison, any difference in using | compared to > ??
[05:09] <norml_advocate> !patience
[05:09] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:09] <emmajane> Some_Person: easy there. :)
[05:09] <bipoi> norml_advocate, sarap
[05:09] <fuffalo> can i use gedit on my local machine to edit files on a remote machine (connected via ssh)
[05:09] <pmratpoison> in irc, or in general?
[05:09] <norml_advocate> bipoi  im sorry
[05:09] <emmajane> Some_Person: first we have to save a dying disk, then we'll get to your collating. :)
[05:09] <AnonCon> anyone have any advice on where to start? I hope to eventually develop
[05:09] <norml_advocate> sarap?
[05:09] <s0ulstice_> pmratpoison, well both since were here
[05:09] <AnonCon> in general
[05:10] <chronos> I'm having a major issue with one of my ubuntu computers. I turn it on, sometimes it goes past the bios screen, and turns off instantly, other times, it'll get as far as my desktop and physically power itself down. What's up with this?
[05:10] <Some_Person> ok
[05:10] <dygital> norml_advocate, have you checked google? I suggest searching for "audacity ubuntu" and see what ya get...
[05:10] <mohadib_> fuffalo gedit used to only support read only VFS , not sure if thats still the case
[05:10] <Marupa> emmajane, hda1/2/4, being /, /home and a 'large files' partition.
[05:10] <AnonCon> chronos, is it overheating?
[05:10] <Some_Person> i just dont want to manually re-sort the 200 pages i'm about to print
[05:10] <norml_advocate> what does sarap mean?
[05:10] <Madpilot> chronos, sounds like serious hardware issues - bad motherboard, probably
[05:10] <mohadib_> try using fuse and sshfs
[05:10] <tyrone> joecurlee : can you find any sort module with videodev in it?
[05:10] <pmratpoison> well, on irc, I think > sends a private msg, whereas  | makes it public. lemme check
[05:10] <chronos> How could I tell AnonCon
[05:10] <pmratpoison> !patience > pmratpoison
[05:10] <genii> fuffalo: Not directly. But you can run something like nano on the ssh, copy and paste into local gedit, edit it, then reverse the process
[05:10] <cag> Hi, I cant see shit toolbars on my xfce... how do I reset my xfce settings from the terminal?
[05:10] <pmratpoison> !patience | pmratpoison
[05:10] <s0ulstice_> Some_Person, Isn't there a print reverse option?
[05:10] <norml_advocate> sarap
[05:10] <Madpilot> pmratpoison, that's how ubotu works
[05:10] <norml_advocate> sarap you too buddy
[05:10] <Plight> I need drivers for my webcam, whoo can help?
[05:10] <EADG> chronos: use a live cd and check your ram with the memory test
[05:10] <emmajane> Marupa: I think you want each of those individually...
[05:10] <AnonCon> you can usually find a temp in the bios
[05:10] <Some_Person> s0ulstice_: where?
[05:11] <tyrone> joecurlee : if not, please try modprobe videodev
[05:11] <norml_advocate> ill sarap you up and down the floors
[05:11] <pmratpoison> Madpilot: Thats what I meant
[05:11] <AnonCon> or just feel it, it it's really hot, really fast..you could have a problem.
[05:11] <dygital> Plight, what happens when you unplug and plug in your webcam? I have one too and thats what I did.
[05:11] <norml_advocate> angry hacker wannabe here
[05:11] <s0ulstice_> Some_Person, i think it would be in the print settings right before you click to print
[05:11] <norml_advocate> lookout
[05:11] <joecurlee> tyrone: v4l1_compat is on the left and videodev on the right of it
[05:11] <s0ulstice_> Some_Person, Id test with a couple pages first though
[05:11] <Madpilot> norml_advocate, cool it, please. This is a tech support channel, not a chat channel.
[05:11] <Plight> nothing
[05:11] <Plight> it doesn't read the device
[05:12] <pmratpoison> now, as far as bash is is concerned, > redirects the standard output. Being a newb myself, I don't know what | does
[05:12] <Some_Person> s0ulstice_: i dont see the option
[05:12] <cag> how do I reset my XFCE settings from the terminal folks?
[05:12] <chronos> Ram check out good EADG
[05:12] <tyrone> joecurlee : can you try modprobe videodev anyway.. just to see?
[05:12] <AnonCon> can you enter your bios chronos?
[05:12] <s0ulstice_> Some_Person, hmm maybe my printer has it and yours doesn't??
[05:12] <Timmy> what is this channel are about?
[05:12] <dygital> Plight, do you see it in your  System > Preferences > Hardware (or something that resembles it?)
[05:12] <chronos> anoncon,  yup sure can.
[05:12] <Timmy> with the high technology talk,it sounds so interesting
[05:12] <pmratpoison> e.g. ls /path/to/stuff > asdf.text will make you an asdf.text file containing the output of ls
[05:12] <mohadib_> cag remove the .xfce settings dorectories
[05:12] <chronos> It'll let me stay in there forever if I want
[05:12] <zylstra555> Hello. I would like to intstall vgetty voicemail server, but, I cannot find the name of the package. How do I install it?
[05:12] <Flannel> !ubuntu | Timmy
[05:12] <Some_Person> s0ulstice_: my printer does it by default in windows
[05:12] <ubotu> Timmy: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <AnonCon> someone in the menu you can usually monitor the cpu temperature
[05:13] <cag> thanks, mohadib_
[05:13] <pmratpoison> hello! I want to autostart thunderbird with my sessions, but I want it to start minimised. What options should I use?
[05:13] <mohadib_> np
[05:13] <joecurlee> tyrone: just type in modprobe videodev on command line?
[05:13] <s0ulstice_> Some_Person, I dunno then.. I've only just set my printer up today
[05:13] <chronos> It's coming up around 100 to 98 Degrees celcius
[05:13] <skypiloteee> hmm,i logon, and gnome isn't responding at all, i can move the mouse, but nothing clicks
[05:13] <joecurlee> tyrone: if yes, i tried that just now and nothing happened
[05:13] <Sunnz2> I'll give up on the onboard ethernet thing...
[05:13] <Sunnz2> It just doesn't work...
[05:13] <AnonCon> google the normal operating temp for your cpu
[05:13] <dygital> Is there a good app to simulate an OS X Dock?
[05:13] <AnonCon> that should give you an idea
[05:14] <dygital> 100C is HOT!
[05:14] <tyrone> joecurlee : its really odd, you seem to have the driver correctly installed and loaded.. but you can't capture? or you can't capture hd? and what are you using to capture, as in what program?
[05:14] <s0ulstice_> dygital, avant window navigator
[05:14] <Plight> i installed video4linux thingy, but it doesn't read the device
[05:14] <pmratpoison> dygital: avant window manager search it in the forums
[05:14] <AnonCon> I agree with dygital..it sounds pretty hot
[05:14] <dygital> either thats a bad sensor, or your overheating
[05:14] <AnonCon> brb
[05:14] <Sunnz2> dygital, AWN
[05:14] <s0ulstice_> AnonCon, yah that is way hot
[05:14] <cag> mohadib_ what directory? my home directory?
[05:14] <chronos> dygital: all my fans are working and I don't have a temp probe, so I'm a bit lost where it's getting it's temp reading
[05:14] <dygital> thanks! :)
[05:14] <dygital> cag,  "~"
[05:14] <Plight> anoncon /b/?
[05:15] <mohadib_> cag in your home dir should be some hidden xfce file/folders
[05:15] <dygital> chronos, are you familiar with what a southbridge is on your motherboard?
[05:15] <joecurlee> tyrone: i have mythtv installed. i can capture video via AV cables, no HD, and no audio
[05:15] <cag> weird... I don't see any .xfce files
[05:15] <Plight> i think i need drivers for the camera
[05:16] <mohadib_> cag me neither now that i look lol
[05:16] <joecurlee> tyrone: i also tried vlc and the same thing happened
[05:16] <mohadib_> i thought i would be like gnome :p
[05:16] <pmratpoison> how does one start an application minimised?
[05:16] <mohadib_> sorry
[05:16] <chronos> just a sec dygital, i'll look it up
[05:16] <hw00djohn> hey, i'm trying to set up evolution mail...does anyone know what the server and type is for gmail?
[05:16] <tyrone> joecurlee : from what I can tell, most people are using it for tvtime.. whatever that is
[05:16] <dygital> chronos, I would try to take a look in the case, and see if there's any blockage of airflow over the SB... that usually gets got from HDD activity.
[05:16] <joecurlee> tyrone: at first vlc would give me video and crappy sound, then after upgrading my ALSA drivers i couldn't get audio at all
[05:17] <s0ulstice_> hw00djohn, There are many pages that describe how to do this.. I like thunderbird better than evolution
[05:17] <joecurlee> tyrone: tvtime? wtf? ok i'll take a look at that
[05:17] <hw00djohn> thanks
[05:17] <tyrone> joecurlee : sounds like alsa is improperly configured. or mythtv is.
[05:17] <s0ulstice_> hw00djohn, make sure you go into your gmail account and enable pop3 too
[05:18] <s0ulstice_> hw00djohn, But I believe it is SSL and its pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com for outgoing
[05:18] <joecurlee> tyrone: that's what i thought too, but i tried all possible settings with mythtv. i wouldn't doubt if it's on alsa's end, however all other video (from dvds or trailers online) plays perfectly with audio
[05:18] <s0ulstice_> hw00djohn, sudo apt-get install thunderbird if you want it
[05:18] <AnonCon> back, chronos I totally agree with dygital
[05:18] <chronos> dygital: what's the sb?
[05:18] <AnonCon> if you haven't done so already def check your case for obstructions.
[05:18] <AnonCon> a can of duster never hurt
[05:19] <dom_> i can't dual-boot into vista after resizing partitions :(
[05:19] <dygital> Plight, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam for help installing a Webcam...
[05:19] <joecurlee> tyrone: tvtime looks like garbage, i'd rather not install it :)
[05:19] <tyrone> Joecurlee : I think this might be a busted driver build. I just found that support for the card just came out in late january, and this IS a cvs build. Maybe someone is tweaking it at the moment. In that case, it could explain the issues. Alot of people have varying success with it, since that part of cvs is under heavy work
[05:19] <Alphinux> Hi, a friend of mine has a Live DVD Ubuntu 2.6.22. Do you know what's the root passwd?
[05:19] <s0ulstice_> Alphinux, There is no root password
[05:19] <pmratpoison> !root
[05:19] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:19] <joecurlee> tyrone: i see, i didn't think of that, and it does make some sense
[05:20] <norml_advocat2> d
[05:20] <pmratpoison> but it's ubuntu / ubuntu
[05:20] <pmratpoison> if you restart X
[05:20] <pmratpoison> I think that is
[05:20] <dygital> chronos, SB = Southbridge... it's a chip on the motherboard with a small heatsink on it (think: metal with fins) ... usually located "south" of the processor area.
[05:20] <joecurlee> tyrone: i wonder if there is a stable build. is it easy to remove the drivers, or if i reinstall following the same steps will they just get overwritten?
[05:20] <Flannel> pmratpoison: no, there is a blank password.  But even then, that's not the root password
[05:20] <tyrone> joecurlee : in this phase of dev, it can get torn appart overnight and rebuilt the next day
[05:20] <pmratpoison> Flannel: didn't say it was the root passd
[05:20] <norml_advocat2> how do I get syn. pack. man. to get audacity 1.2.6?
[05:20] <pmratpoison> passwd
[05:20] <Alphinux> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yea I forgot about that thing on Ubuntu thx
[05:21] <norml_advocat2> how do I get syn. pack. man. to get audacity 1.2.6?
[05:21] <dom_> anyone here have experience w/ dual booting vista?
[05:21] <norml_advocat2> !patience norml_advocat2
[05:21] <tyrone> joecurlee : absolutely, a rebuild would overwrite the old. However, if we could find a tarball that someone got to work.. that would be best. Otherwise, trying it out here and there would likely get you somwhere at one point
[05:21] <AnonCon> sorry dom_ I don't
[05:21] <puxel> which do you have installed first dom?
[05:21] <dom_> vista was pre-installed
[05:21] <dom_> installed ubuntu, dual-boot action was working fine....
[05:22] <pmratpoison> norml_advocat2: applications > add/remove and check audacity
[05:22] <puxel> it should.
[05:22] <dom_> except we had to make the vista partition larger. used gparted, now vista won't boot
[05:22] <AnonCon> dygital...you have a second?
[05:22] <puxel> Hmm.
[05:22] <puxel> That, im afraid, i cant help you with.
[05:22] <s0ulstice_> dom_ whats wrong with it
[05:22] <puxel> could it be your bios?
[05:22] <norml_advocat2> pmratpoison  the latest version is the only one i get.  which is 1.3.4 and it doesnt work,  i need 1.2.6
[05:22] <dygital> AnonCon, sure :)
[05:22] <dom_> vista shows the loading screen (green bar bouncing back and forth), never gets passed that
[05:23] <AnonCon> I IM'd you
[05:23] <dom_> safe mode lists "CRCDISK.SYS" as the last entry
[05:23] <dygital> oh?
[05:23] <norml_advocat2> !patience AnonCon
[05:23] <computer_> how do i share my wireless it only seems to be picking up my wired connection. is it because im already using my wireless with ubuntu?
[05:23] <AnonCon> ?
[05:23] <s0ulstice_> norml_advocat2, Im thinking you find it in the backports or in another repo.. just search for it
[05:23] <norml_advocat2> i did
[05:23] <AnonCon> i'm in no hurry lol
[05:23] <computer_> i am running vista on vmware
[05:23] <pmratpoison> norml_advocat2: Then go to synaptic and click on the package, and then Package > Force Version
[05:23] <norml_advocat2> on syn. pack. man.
[05:23] <norml_advocat2> oh
[05:23] <dygital> I'm new to X-Chat... so i didn't see it.
[05:23] <dom_> here's an interesting note: once, while booting vista, it began scanning the disk... and as soon as it finished, it booted linux (no restart)
[05:24] <AnonCon> me too, so I don't know how often people IM
[05:24] <dom_> and it was definitely vista running the scan (M$ logo was there)
[05:24] <norml_advocat2> pmratpoison:  how do I make your name come up in yellow when I type you a message?
[05:24] <tyrone> joecurlee : I've found alot of posts saying that sound support is currently botched but work is ongoing. Again, should be integrated by kernel .25 . In that case, you won't have to mess with anything to get the module up
[05:24] <s0ulstice_> dom_, So what happened? You lost your vista partition, or what
[05:24] <dom_> s0ulstice_: no, it's still there. in fact, i can mount it from linux
[05:24] <dygital> So I checked out AWN... and it seems like a PIA to install. Isn't there a debian package available?
[05:25] <joecurlee> tyrone: when is kernel .25 supposed to hit?
[05:25] <s0ulstice_> dom_, But what, you cant boot to it?
[05:25] <dom_> vista shows the loading screen (green bar bouncing back and forth), never gets passed that
[05:25] <pmratpoison> If you right my nick in full, then the xchat icon blinks, so I'll know
[05:25] <dom_> when booting safe mode, it lists "CRCDISK.SYS" as the last entry
[05:25] <pmratpoison> right = write, pardon my typos
[05:26] <norml_advocat2> gotcha, so how do you make mine come up in yellow?
[05:26] <s0ulstice_> dom_, Hmm thats weird.. so its just hanging there then? All the files are still there when you mount it in linux?
[05:26] <dom_> yup
[05:26] <norml_advocat2> and by full do you include the :
[05:26] <AnonCon> I am totally new to Linux.  I know some programming and am decently savvy.  Where should my first stop in linux be if I am wanting to become  a power user?
[05:27] <computer_> acetoneiso worked like a charm! thnx for the recommendation
[05:27] <dom_> s0ulstice_: i think the windows bootloader is messed up - but i can't figure out how or why
[05:27] <dygital> AnonCon, I'm in your same shoes
[05:27] <dom_> plus, i can't do anything to it (configured through a windows app called BCDedit.exe)
[05:27] <s0ulstice_> dom_, Yeah that is kind of weird... You use GRUB to dualboot right?
[05:27] <dom_> yes
[05:27] <puxel> when I start up some applications, the title bar appears underneath the top panel. How can i fix this?
[05:27] <AnonCon> dang
[05:28] <AnonCon> lol
[05:28] <dygital> AnonCon, I just browse the ubuntuforums, search google and mimic my tasks that I do in Windows on over... and I guess I'm OK... ;)
[05:28] <norml_advocat2> how do i do a "force version" on a syn. pack. download
[05:28] <norml_advocat2> ?
[05:28] <dom_> is there a preferred pastbin for this channel?
[05:28] <genii> !paste
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:28] <AnonCon> I got the basics down...and I'm learning C++ in college.  I hope to dev some stuff
[05:28] <AnonCon> right now i know vb :(
[05:28] <s0ulstice_> puxel, are you using metacity or emerald???
[05:28] <pmratpoison> norml_advocat2: well, that is a client XChat thingy... If I write your nick in my text, then I appear yellow, like I just did... same goesd to you. So if you want your nick to appear yellow to a user, just write their name
[05:29] <sfears> can anyone direct me on where to get some help with sound output.. i'm getting audio out of my headphone jack.. but when i run it into my reciever it sounds like it's all surround sound.. no vocals
[05:29] <t_> ridiculous! FUCKING RIDICULOUS!
[05:29] <t_> UBUNTU IS TOO EASY TO USE!
[05:29] <AnonCon> ?
[05:29] <tyrone> joecurlee : I'm not sure when for the kernel, but I do know it is the one under dev, since .24 is out. I really think hardy will be using it. Most likely it will come as an update if it doesn't. and I've also found that hd is an issue at the moment, but the framework is in place. I would expect that your issues will get fixed soon enough. Some users have reported moderate success on both ends though. http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/li
[05:29] <tyrone> nux-dvb/2008-January/thread.html
[05:29] <norml_advocat2> pmratpoison like that?
[05:29] <puxel> emerald
[05:29] <pmratpoison> norml_advocat2 yup
[05:29] <t_> also... compiz fusion is wonderful!
[05:29] <dygital> pmratpoison, I find the tab completion very welcoming in X-Chat
[05:29] <norml_advocat2> cool
[05:29] <dom_> here's my menu.lst: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56698/
[05:29] <s0ulstice_> puxel, try this hit alt-f2 and it should bring up a run-in0terminal box
[05:30] <dygital> so like for my you just need to type in "dy" and press Tab
[05:30] <pmratpoison> dygital: I use it too
[05:30] <puxel> ok
[05:30] <seracht> Hi
[05:30] <AnonCon> dygital: ditto
[05:30] <s0ulstice_> puxel, and type in emerald and run it
[05:30] <genii> t_: I'm happy for you, but please try not to use profanity, we're trying to keep the channel family-friendly :)
[05:30] <norml_advocat2> How do you do a force version download in syn. pack. man.?
[05:30] <s0ulstice_> puxel but dont check run in terminal
[05:30] <seracht> can someone give me a site that has some good screenshots of ubuntu
[05:30] <puxel> ok
[05:30] <seracht> specifically, trying to fix the font
[05:30] <dygital> seracht, what do you want screenshots of?
[05:30] <seracht> dygital: just ubuntu in general
[05:30] <AnonCon> anyone have any ideas why I can't get anjuta to run?
[05:30] <s0ulstice_> puxel, tell me if that works
[05:30] <seracht> my font looks ugly :(
[05:31] <pmratpoison> norml_advocat2: click on audacity and then from the main menus, click Package > Force Version I think the keyboard shortcut is ctrl + E
[05:31] <puxel> one second
[05:31] <dygital> I think www.flickr.com has a lot just search "ubuntu screenshots"
[05:31] <joecurlee> tyrone: *sigh* i guess i can wait... i'm extremely impatient though :)
[05:31] <dom_> and here's the result of fdisk -l  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56700/
[05:31] <dygital> seracht, are you running ubuntu now?
[05:31] <puxel> nope, they still appear under the panel
[05:31] <seracht> yes dygital
[05:31] <seracht> right now
[05:31] <seracht> I need a font recommendation
[05:31] <AnonCon> ahhh....to be a newb again :(
[05:32] <norml_advocat2> pmratpoison yep i just saw that myself, but i still cant get 1.2.6
[05:32] <tyrone> joecurlee : I know the feeling.  I've been looking for a stupid header file all night now..
[05:32] <norml_advocat2> bummer
[05:32] <dom_> any clues?
[05:32] <s0ulstice_> puxel, you sure you are using emerald?? when that happens to me it is because emerald crashes and i have to restart it.. maybe try emerald --replace ??
[05:32] <dygital> seracht, I suggest making your own screenshots easily, press the PRNT SCRN button on your keyboard.
[05:32] <seracht> ...
[05:32] <dygital> they output in PNG.
[05:32] <seracht> I want screenshots to see examples of ubuntu themes/fonts
[05:32] <tanubis> Hey everyone, I'm trying to connect a w300i (sony ericsson) to my Ubuntu laptop through the USB that came with the phone.  When you connect it, the phone displays options to select "Phone Mode" or "File Transfer".  Selecting Transfer connects as a usb drive, but selecting Phone seems to generate no response on the laptop.  Anyone have ideas as to what's going on?
[05:32] <joecurlee> tyrone: that sucks... wish i could be of help there... i guess I'll try installing different drivers later after I've taken a break from this
[05:32] <joecurlee> tyrone: thanks for the help at least i know I'm not crazy now!
[05:33] <AnonCon> gota go guys, naked gf
[05:33] <pmratpoison> norml_advocat2: that probably means that 1.2.6 isn't in the repos... Correct me someone if I'm wrong! I guess you could install it from source if that's the case.
[05:33] <puxel> that just made the screen jump
[05:33] <bullgard4> What command line command will be called by clicking on the Gnome 'Force Quit Button' applet?
[05:33] <dygital> seracht, *Ohh*... in that case, check out Gnome Art http://art.gnome.org/
[05:33] <jumbers> I just went to play an MP3 file and now every type of file has a MIME type of "application/octet-stream". How can I fix this?
[05:33] <puxel> then set back to just where it was.
[05:33] <AnonCon> exit
[05:33] <tyrone> joecurlee : Don't worry, these guys are working pretty fast from the looks of it. Should be any time now.
[05:33] <ian_suntong> gdf
[05:33] <seracht> thanks dygital
[05:33] <seracht> will check those out
[05:33] <joecurlee> cool. later... hope you find the header file
[05:33] <s0ulstice_> puxel, hmm does it happen even when you log in?? like right away?
[05:33] <seracht> can you guys recommend any fonts
[05:34] <puxel> yeah.
[05:34] <reasons> its all about myraid pro
[05:34] <tanubis> bullgard4 likely it sends a kill command
[05:34] <urbushey> Any ideas as to why my amaroK would install without a "podcast" option?
[05:34] <puxel> i'm going to restart x. bbs.
[05:34] <s0ulstice_> k
[05:34] <puxel> thanks for the help s0ul
[05:34] <dygital> seracht, I use the MS Fonts Core pack... it carries over the default fonts in Windows
[05:34] <tyrone> joecurlee : Their sending out a lot of pathes lately, from what i can see
[05:34] <s0ulstice_> yw puxel
[05:34] <pmratpoison> seracht: download the fonts from medibuntu and then look for the ones you like
[05:34] <norml_advocat2> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO ENABLE THE OPTIONS IN AUDACITY 1.3?
[05:34] <bullgard4> tanubis: Yes, but I should like to know it more exactly.
[05:35] <urbushey> wow this room is crazy how does anyone get anything done in here?
[05:35] <reasons> What options are you looking for? I haven't used audicity in a while.
[05:35] <sfears> nothing gets done in this room urbushey
[05:35] <norml_advocat2> urbushey just type alot
[05:35] <urbushey> haha
[05:35] <sfears> it's a conspiracy
[05:35] <s0ulstice_> dom_, Nothing looks too out of place in your output, you cant use the vista disk for any restore options???
[05:35] <sfears> it just gives the illusuion of being able to use linux
[05:35] <skypiloteee> mostly  ubotu ends up doing the talking
[05:36] <norml_advocat2> reasons i dont have any options
[05:36] <norml_advocat2> reasons i just want to cut clips from songs
[05:36] <urbushey> Well, i'll spam this then i guess:
[05:36] <dom_> s0ulstice_: no DVD or CD shipped with the system
[05:36] <urbushey> anyone know why my amaroK doesn't have a "podcast" tab?
[05:36] <tanubis> bullgard4 check "man pgrep" "man pkill"
[05:36] <dom_> i believe that's what the extra NTFS partition is for
[05:36] <urbushey> i cant find a plug-in or anything that would add podcast functionality
[05:36] <s0ulstice_> dom_, haha cheap bastards.. what did they do provide a ghost partition?
[05:36] <reasons> norml, like a song is 30 seconds long and you only want tine 10 to 20?
[05:36] <Schmao-Fmao> Hi there, how do I get a list of process id's that are started by a certain user? I've been using "top -b -n 1 | grep username" but that's a bit slow ...
[05:36] <s0ulstice_> dom_, yah m$ cheap bastards
[05:36] <tanubis> bullgard4 if you wanted to duplicate the kill window command from command line, you'd use pgrep to find the name of the process you want and pkill to terminate it
[05:37] <dom_> pretty much
[05:37] <puxel> hmm. didnt fix anything
[05:37] <reasons> schmao, use htop, it'll say what users are using what
[05:37] <dom_> s0ulstice_: i tried booting from it as well, it just gives a black screen
[05:37] <norml_advocat2> reasons that or a song is 5 min. long and i just want 10 secs
[05:37] <reasons> give me a bit and a man page :)
[05:37] <s0ulstice_> puxel, maybe tyr reinstalling emerald? I dunno if there is anything else it relies on to draw the title bars.. I just know I restart emerald to fix mine
[05:37] <dygital> well thanks for the help mohadib_  et al. Have a good night.
[05:38] <urbushey> oooh i just found an amarok channel
[05:38] <mohadib_> o/
[05:38] <urbushey> ill go bother them
[05:38] <s0ulstice_> dom_, Booting from the restore drive gives you just a black screen?
[05:38] <norml_advocat2> reasons whats a man page?
[05:38] <s0ulstice_> norml_advocat2, Manual
[05:38] <Schmao-Fmao> reasons, any programs that come standard that do the same thing? :) I'm only asking because I have 15 computers, and to use htop I'd have to install it on each one
[05:38] <puxel> will do.
[05:38] <puxel> thanks
[05:38] <dom_> s0ulstice_: yes. i can't figure this damned thing out :-/
[05:38] <tanubis> bullgard4 for example, if I wanted to kill my browser, I could pgrep firefox and then pkill <idnumber from pgrep> to terminate it
[05:39] <Dr_pSiE> hey guys hast anyone tried hardy beta yet on a 64 cpu?
[05:39] <s0ulstice_> dom_, that sucks...hmmm....dunno
[05:39] <norml_advocat2> whats a "bit"  some time, or something else thats a nerd code ;-)
[05:39] <s0ulstice_> Dr_pSiE, No I have gutsy on 64 though... working very smooth
[05:40] <reasons> Schmoa, not that I'm aware of, but htop is so small that even a dialup connection will get it in under a minute. It really is a must have as you can sort by cpu, mem, etc. as well as being colored.
[05:40] <Dr_pSiE> well since my last kernel update hardy isn't working as smooth as it was before
[05:40] <Schmao-Fmao> reasons, sweet :) I'll install it then
[05:40] <ckin2001> Schmao-Fmao, ps aux | grep "username" | awk '{ print $2 }'
[05:40] <tanubis> bullgard4 Also, you could use the command pstree -p to see a list of running processes laid out as an ascii diagram, and pskill id# to terminate
[05:40] <seracht> hey
[05:40] <s0ulstice_> Dr_pSiE, Hardy is +1 .. maybe try that channel?
[05:41] <Dr_pSiE> cheers
[05:41] <seracht> qouick question, now that I am using restricted drivers, how do I enable compwiz
[05:41] <seracht> compiz
[05:41] <tanubis> bullgard4 *pkill
[05:41] <Schmao-Fmao> ckin2001: Thanks :) I'll check out htop while I'm at it, too
[05:41] <soulburner> anyone used ushare in htere?
[05:41]  * s0ulstice_ announces the presence of our Lord Nickrud.. All hail the King!
[05:41] <reasons> compiz --replace
[05:41] <FX> Anyone alive?
[05:41] <tanubis> anyone know how to detect what a usb device is doing?
[05:42] <dom_> s0ulstice_: do you think it may be possible to copy the recovery partition to a DVD and boot off of it?
[05:42]  * nickrud eyes s0ulstice_ , and sidles off 
[05:42] <norml_advocat2> I HAVE A GREAT QUESTION!!!  If I wanted to access a wireless internet account that required a password and didnt have a password how would I get the password?
[05:42] <FX> How do I get rid of the kubuntu load screen on start up and replace it.
[05:42] <nickrud> !usplash | FX
[05:42] <ubotu> FX: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:42] <cfedde> ask the account owner.
[05:42] <seracht> um
[05:42] <s0ulstice_> dom_, Hmm its worth a try for sure
[05:42] <reasons> To who was looking at audicity, I couldn't find it but these links might help: http://curriculum.union.edu/tips/audacity.php http://audacity.sourceforge.net/manual-1.2/tutorial_ed_beginner2.html
[05:42] <genii> norml_advocat2: What cfedde said.
[05:42] <bullgard4> tanubis: Your explanations are helpful, and I thank you for them. --  My outset was that a communication program prevented me from terminating my Epiphany. Even using the 'Force Quit Button' could not kill the remnants of Epiphany. Only using 'killall epiphany' killed the remnants. So I wonder what the 'Force Quit Button' really does.
[05:42] <seracht> so how do I check out compiz settings?
[05:42] <norml_advocat2> FX kcontrol
[05:43] <s0ulstice_> seracht, do you have the compizconfig-settings-manager package downloaded
[05:43] <reasons> grab the compizconfig from aptitude and then customize it by right clicking the desktop and going under the efects tab
[05:43] <norml_advocat2> genii but I dont want to ask for it.  I was thinkin somethin more ninjalike
[05:43] <dom_> s0ulstice_: right... so... how might i do that?
[05:43] <FX> thanks for the link
[05:44] <baegle> I'm trying to use the restricted driver manager to install fglrx and it seems to work, but after I config X and restart the manager shows that while fglrx is enabled, it's not in use. When I modprobe fglrx I get FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx. I have been googling ATI tutorial for literally weeks on end. What the hell do I have to do to get this working?
[05:44] <ckin2001> norml_advocat2, ninjas cannot ask for the path - they must find the way alone
[05:44] <seracht> hmm
[05:44] <genii> norml_advocat2: Thats exactly the reason you likely won't find an answer here for that.
[05:44] <s0ulstice_> dom_, That is a good question haha.. I don't know.. haven't worked with vista much
[05:44] <FX> I had kubuntu but instead of downloading the whole ubuntu cd to change over I just apt-got ubuntu-desktop and then removed everything kde. lol
[05:44] <norml_advocat2> im not a malicious person I just want free web access
[05:44] <dom_> s0ulstice_: not really a vista thing
[05:44] <tanubis> bullgard4 anytime.  I suppose if one was really curious, one could always find the source code and take a gander.  My guess would be that it looks for the process ID of the window you click, and kills that.  But if a parent process has hung, sometimes the child process that's displaying the window maybe doesn't work?  I could be way off though.
[05:45] <dom_> i have a disk partition, i want to make a bootable dvd copy of it
[05:45] <seracht> isn't there some application that works similar to apt-get
[05:45] <seracht> I forgot the name though lol
[05:45] <dA_ShArP> My DPKG is giving this error http://rafb.net/p/ZAdDGm59.html,
[05:45] <norml_advocat2> why are hackers so secretive?
[05:45] <reasons> aptitude
[05:45] <codyduncan> Someone have an answer?:  I accidentally removed Pidgin messenger from my system tray, now every time I close the buddy list, the messenger closes completely (as in, quits).  How do I put it back to how it was?
[05:45] <cfedde> norml_advocat2: there are plenty of open access points.  I think there's a national one called 'linksys'  Available in most american suburbs these days.
[05:45] <dA_ShArP> My DPKG is giving this error http://rafb.net/p/ZAdDGm59.html, the thing is I am unable to install apache2 or re isnatll or do nothing with apt-get
[05:45] <seracht> reasons: is that command line based?
[05:45] <dA_ShArP> how do I fix it?
[05:46] <norml_advocat2> isnt linksys a router brand?  and arent they sometimes encrypted?
[05:46] <genii> norml_advocat2: Do some homework :) Google is full of answers on queries like "aircrack-ng" "wep" "sniff"            and so on.
[05:46] <reasons> seracht, it can be with aptitude install pkg or it has a terminal gui type thing. I'm not too sure, I use arch.
[05:46] <bullgard4> tanubis: Last night I already tried to find the source code but was not successful. I will keep trying.
[05:46] <cfedde> norml_advocat2: you're kinda new at this arn't you?
[05:46] <norml_advocat2> genii i think your a hacker
[05:46] <norml_advocat2> cfedde i am
[05:46] <norml_advocat2> cfedde we all gotta start somewhere
[05:47] <norml_advocat2> does anybody want to be my hacker mentor
[05:47] <norml_advocat2> i can cook and do laundry
[05:47] <tanubis> bullgard4 good luck :)
[05:48] <seracht> also I noticed iwth pigwin, when I type the text shakes
[05:48] <seracht> anyone have that problem too?
[05:48] <genii> norml_advocat2: Even if someone wanted to help you, it's against the rules of this channel to advocate illegal activities
[05:48] <ckin2001> bullgard4, what source are you wanting?
[05:48] <norml_advocat2> genii it is not illegal to BE a hacker
[05:48] <genbuntu> hello
[05:48] <tanubis> ckin2001 source for the force kill window dohickey in ubuntu
[05:48] <dA_ShArP> My DPKG is giving this error http://rafb.net/p/ZAdDGm59.html, the thing is I am unable to install apache2 or re isnatll or do nothing with apt-get
[05:48] <s0ulstice_> dom_, find anything???
[05:49] <norml_advocat2> genii do you know of a more suitable channel for this type of discussion?
[05:49] <dom_> negative
[05:49] <genii> norml_advocat2: Semantics. Like I said before, Googling for stuff on aircrack-ng and so on will get you started
[05:49] <codyduncan> did anyone read my question, or am I just waiting here in vain?
[05:49] <Waffle> how can i sync my ipod with ubuntu?
[05:49] <unique> can somebody tell me why is that when i connect to my pureftpd to my ubuntu from my windowsxp..i type in my login&password and then when i try to access a subfolder it asks me for my login&password again?
[05:49] <unique> why is it asking me twice?
[05:49] <bullgard4> ckin2001: The source code of the Gnome 'Force Quit Button' applet.
[05:49] <norml_advocat2> genii thanks
[05:50]  * dA_ShArP has got some serious problem
[05:50] <reasons> da_sharp, that is a problem with your connection, possibly your soucres.list, not apt-get
[05:50] <ckin2001> bullgard4, force quit does a soft kill, not kill -9, looking for the code
[05:50] <jc> can someone explain firestarter to me - is it just a gui to edit iptables and if so do I have to keep it running all the time?
[05:50] <dA_ShArP> reasons: It is FINE!
[05:50] <genii> norml_advocat2: You may find some tips in the channel #aircrack-ng
[05:50] <nickrud> codyduncan: I don't use pidgin, but the preferences interface tab has a setting for showing the tray icon
[05:50] <reasons> Waffle, amarok, gtk-pod, rockbox, songbird
[05:50] <genbuntu> I've a logitech 4 button scroll mouse with tilting scroll wheel, how can I configure functions to extra buttons for e.g. close a firefox tab with scroll tilt ?
[05:50] <norml_advocat2> genii ooohhhh
[05:51] <norml_advocat2> genii good stuff
[05:51] <norml_advocat2> genii i knew you were a hacker
[05:51] <reasons> da_sharp, just because the internet is working doesn't mean apt-get will. I've had firefox work but not pacman
[05:51] <norml_advocat2> genii WERE right?
[05:51] <silas428> can anyone help me install a asus wl-167g usb WLAN adapter? I can't seem to compile it right
[05:51] <reasons> I mean, look at this. could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[05:51] <Waffle> reasons: i have amarok, how do i sync with it? i can play the songs from my ipod but how do i make it automatically sync with my ipod?
[05:51] <Gumby> hello all.  I am trying to run a program (nuvexport) but when I do it gives me an error that I believe has to do with the Term::Cap perl module. Ive tried to install it maually via cpan but I still get the error.  Can anyone tell me if a compatible perl module is available in gutsy, I cant seem to find one anywhere
[05:51] <reasons> That obviously isn't the address
[05:51] <genii> norml_advocat2: I'm not really some "hacker" but I've done my share of exploration :)
[05:51] <nickrud> genii: I'd say genii is a hacker, not a cracker (in this incarnation, anyway :)
[05:52] <reasons> Go to the devices tab with your ipod mounted
[05:52] <reasons> Pretty self-explanityr from there
[05:52] <bullgard4> ckin2001: My problem is to find out what that applet really does. Yesterday I used it to kill my Epiphany which was stuck but did not succeed. Only 'killall epiphany' succeeded.
[05:52] <dA_ShArP> reasons: Yes, but I am trying to STOP or START the apache.. but it is giving error like what you see DPKG gives
[05:52] <Waffle> k thanks
[05:52] <genii> nickrud: I think thats the nicest thing someone said to me this week :)
[05:52] <norml_advocat2> genii what the diff. between hacker and cracker?
[05:52] <s0ulstice_> nickrud, haha whats up dude... your not gonna ask me to a dual are you? haha
[05:52] <ckin2001> bullgard4, launchpad FAQ said that the applet does a soft kill, not a killall
[05:52]  * nickrud eyes s0ulstice_ , and sidles away ;)
[05:53] <genii> norml_advocat2: classical hackers are not malicious. Crackers are.
[05:53] <silas428> Are reverse-engineers considered crackers??
[05:53] <nickrud> s0ulstice_: :p
[05:53] <s0ulstice_> norml_advocat2, cracker cracks security passwords, reverse engineer software etc, a hacker just pushes hardware and software beyond its original intended limits
[05:53] <bullgard4> ckin2001: So I need to enquire more on 'soft kill' in order to find out?
[05:53] <silas428> I read some of their stuff, I think they like the word "crack"
[05:53] <dA_ShArP> reasons: and that's what DPKG is trying to do aswell, well the thing is I am upgrading my computer after like 30 days
[05:53] <genbuntu> so any ideas how to configure extra buttons of my mouse?
[05:54] <nickrud> !mouse | genbuntu
[05:54] <ubotu> genbuntu: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:54] <codyduncan> can someone help me with some stupid mistake I just made?  I accidentally removed Pidgin messenger from my system tray, now every time I close the buddy list, the messenger closes completely (as in, quits).  How do I put it back to how it was?
[05:54] <silas428> s0ulstice_:wouldn't cracking be something illegal? I know RCE isn't illegal if the source code was never used
[05:54] <ckin2001> bullgard4, soft kill is equivalent to typing "kill %pid" at command line, hard kill is "kill -9 %pid"
[05:54] <genbuntu> ah, *runs off to check that site*
[05:54] <silas428> !asus
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <nickrud> codyduncan: check the peferences, on the interface tab: there's a setting to control the system tray icon
[05:54] <silas428> !167g
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 167g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <bullgard4>  ckin2001 And how does 'killall epiphany' fit into this picture?
[05:55] <s0ulstice_> silas428, i guess it depends on how you use the information, whos it is, etc, WHAT it is too
[05:55] <Waffle> reasons: ok, im stuck. i have all the artists in the list. what now?
[05:55] <norml_advocat2> I think that the hacking cracking community needs to stop cowering and realize that without them there would be no Ubuntu
[05:55] <phiqtion> when is the next version of ubuntu coming out?
[05:55] <nickrud> phiqtion: scheduled for april
[05:55] <norml_advocat2> Speak up Speak out UNITE
[05:55] <bullgard4> phiqtion: In April
[05:55] <phiqtion> thank you
[05:56] <jc> can anyone explain firestarter to me?
[05:56] <codyduncan> nickrud: that does not solve it
[05:56] <silas428> jc: its a gui for iptables, pretty much all i know
[05:56] <ckin2001> bullgard4, killall gets all instances of a process name, not just the one associated with 1 pid
[05:56] <reasons> Waffle, this would be a great time for me to use amarok, huh? :) When I did use it there should be a drop box for device manager, check through the settings if it's not there. Once you find it, and I know it exists, look for your monunted ipod in the list and say to use that device
[05:56] <nickrud> codyduncan: hm.
[05:57] <s0ulstice_> norml_advocat2, haah your funny
[05:57] <reasons> Waffle, if you already did that and I read you wrong, there should be a sync button in the top bar
[05:57] <jc> silas428, thanks, if thats the case then after I configure it does it need to be running?
[05:57] <bullgard4> ckin2001: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.
[05:57] <nickrud> codyduncan: a silly question: you do still have the system tray.
[05:57] <ckin2001> bullgard4, gotta go, but i couldnt find the force kill @ svn.gnome.org - maybe you can
[05:57] <ckin2001> good luck and your welcome :D
[05:57] <codyduncan> nickrud: that may not be a silly question...
[05:58] <silas428> jc: Not sure, if you want to configure a firewall use fwbuilder of the one in the ubuntu repositories
[05:58] <Waffle> reasons: there's a "transfer" button, but its grayed out
[05:58] <silas428> jc: guarddog I think it's called
[05:58] <norml_advocat2> s0ulstice_ i am funny.  and a bit dramatic but somewhat serious.  why cant I meet a hacker?  I wanna be a hacker!
[05:58] <seracht> quck question, how can you make more workspaces?
[05:58] <codyduncan> nickrud: I don't see it on the "add to panel" list
[05:59] <computer_> how do i share my wireless it only seems to be picking up my wired connection. is it because im already using my wireless with ubuntu?
[05:59] <silas428> norml_advocat2: have you ever read ESR's "how to be a hacker"
[05:59] <nickrud> codyduncan: it's called the notification area (system tray is the old name, sorry)
[05:59] <computer_> i am running vista on vmware
[05:59] <jc> silas428, so guarddog and firestarter do different things?
[05:59] <silas428> jc: guarddog is to setup a firewall, firestarter is a GUI for the iptables on Ubuntu
[05:59] <s0ulstice_> norml_advocat2, You know how to read right?
[05:59] <codyduncan> jackpot
[05:59] <reasons> That would mean the ipod isn't mounted and if it is, amarok isn't noticing. When you first started amarok with your ipod mounted it should have asked to use it. What we need to do is find that setting.
[06:00] <codyduncan> nickrud: well done, thanks mate
[06:00] <s0ulstice_> norml_advocat2, do a google search for backtrack3 and download it
[06:00] <nickrud> codyduncan: you're welcome
[06:00] <silas428> jc: from what I seen from firestarter, it shows the activity on your network and lets you block ports
[06:00] <norml_advocat2> s0ulstice who is ESR?
[06:00] <cfedde> eric s raymond
[06:00]  * nickrud boggles at the thought that someone wants to be a hacker, and doesn't know who esr is
[06:00] <jc> silas428, ok so I guess i'm confused, I thought iptables was the firewall in ubuntu
[06:00] <silas428> norml_advocat2: he co-founded the Open Source Initiative
[06:01] <tanubis> bullgard4 the command it's calling is xkill
[06:01] <genbuntu> Would anyone know How do I start Pidgin minimized ?
[06:01] <norml_advocat2> silas428 well thankyou for clearing that up smartypants
[06:01] <silas428> jc: I'm not an expert so don't quote me, but I think they are two different things, not 100% on this
[06:01] <reasons> Waffle, also, do you have libgpod installed
[06:01] <tanubis> bullgard4 if you type that in and hit enter, you basically get the exact same thing as what the force kill does
[06:01] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: there's even a virtual eric s raymond in your repos, install vrms ;)
[06:01] <silas428> norml_advocat2: google ESR and check out his homepage
[06:01] <jc> silas428, k thanks
[06:01] <brdoco> is there more to sharing a printer than just Global Settings -> Share Printers?
[06:01] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: they are interchangeable in some senses
[06:02] <norml_advocat2> nickrud you lost me
[06:02] <norml_advocat2> nickrud what is a repos
[06:02] <Waffle> reasons, i think i figured it out. i had to configure amarok for a music folder then right click on all my music and hit copy to collection
[06:02] <victor__> olis
[06:02] <victor__> ?
[06:02] <reasons> Waffle, this might do it too. In Amarok go to settings and set it to autodetect devices
[06:02] <seracht> guys with pigwin
[06:02] <s0ulstice_> norml_advocat2, who?
[06:02] <seracht> do you have problems wit hte font shaking
[06:02] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: I lost myself a bit there. Picking up with your last question, see following:
[06:02] <victor__> olasssssssssssss
[06:02] <victor__> ????????
[06:02] <tanubis> bullgard4 they just modified it slightly (esc cancels as opposed to mouse2 + help text window)
[06:02] <nickrud> !components | norml_advocat2
[06:02] <ubotu> norml_advocat2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:02] <seracht> sorry pidgin
[06:02] <norml_advocat2> nickrud gotcha
[06:03] <norml_advocat2> im goin to learn how to be a hacker!
[06:03] <norml_advocat2> see ya in 5 min.
[06:03] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: the components link is the first to ready
[06:03] <nickrud> *read
[06:03] <norml_advocat2> nickrud what?
[06:03] <norml_advocat2> oh
[06:04] <brdoco> is there more to sharing a printer than just Global Settings -> Share Printers?
[06:04] <silas428> norml_advocat2: Make sure you read "the rootless root"
[06:04] <bullgard4> tanubis: Ah, very interesting. I will play a bit with xkill and see if its effect is the same as that of the 'Force Quit Button' applet. --  You are most helpful. Thank you very much indeed.
[06:06] <tanubis> bullgard4 welcome... still hunting for the source myself; someone on another forum had mentioned that force kill applet = gui wrapper for xkill command, but didn't site source.
[06:06] <Dezine> Is it possible to set different wallpapers for each desktop?
[06:06] <tanubis> dezine yes
[06:06] <bullgard4> tanubis: site > cite?
[06:06] <tanubis> bullgard4 indeed :P
[06:07] <zxcvbnm> HAI
[06:07] <bullgard4> ok
[06:07] <samuel> hello,everybody.
[06:07] <zxcvbnm> HAY SAM WHERE DO YOU LIVE
[06:08] <cwillu> Buh
[06:08] <samuel> zxcvbnm, I come from china,and you?
[06:08] <zxcvbnm> HIIIIIIIIII
[06:08] <bluebanana> How do i install this small game called passage (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/hcsoftware/Passage_v3_UnixSource.tar.gz)
[06:08] <zxcvbnm> MI FROM INDONESIA
[06:08] <bluebanana> for more info check out http://downloads.sourceforge.net/hcsoftware/Passage_v3_UnixSource.tar.gz
[06:09] <bluebanana> sorry, for more info: http://hcsoftware.sourceforge.net/passage/index.html
[06:09] <nickrud> tanubis: the source for the inhibit applet is in gnome-power-manager
[06:09] <regeya> !ask | zxcvbnm
[06:09] <ubotu> zxcvbnm: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:09] <regeya> btw, hi zxcvbnm
[06:09] <nickrud> tanubis: arg, that's not what you were looking for, brain fart
[06:09] <bluebanana> how do I "run to build"?
[06:10] <tanubis> nickrud no problem :O
[06:10] <regeya> well, basically you bolt from your car right to the work site.
[06:10] <zxcvbnm> HAY EVERY BODY MY NAME IS NANA
[06:10] <cwillu> bluebanana, open a terminal to the folder (extacting the tar.gz first)
[06:10] <cwillu> bluebanana, ./configure
[06:10] <cwillu> bluebanana, make
[06:10] <nickrud> !caps zxcvbnm
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about caps zxcvbnm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <regeya> cripes, zxcvbnm
[06:10] <bluebanana> cwillu: thanks. will try
[06:10] <nickrud> !caps | zxcvbnm
[06:10] <ubotu> zxcvbnm: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:10] <cwillu> bluebanana, that's the usual incantation at least
[06:10] <tanubis> nickrud if you've any idea how to use ubuntu to control sms on a recalcitrant w300i over usb cable using commandline or php, that's what I'm hunting for :)
[06:11] <nickrud> tanubis: fortunately, no I don't :)
[06:11] <zxcvbnm> WHAT DO YOU MEAN I NOT UNDERSTAND
[06:11] <bluebanana> cwillu: it doesn't work
[06:11] <bluebanana> please see the tar.gz file
[06:11] <nickrud> zxcvbnm: please use lower case, not captitalized letters
[06:11] <bluebanana> there's a file called "runToBuild"
[06:11] <seracht> to install awn do I just do sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator?
[06:11] <cwillu> bluebanana, ah
[06:11] <cwillu> bluebanana, ./runToBuild
[06:11] <nickrud> !awn | seracht
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <samuel> How to valid the environment  variable after I set in the .profile ?
[06:11] <cwillu> bluebanana, you might need to chmod a+x runToBuild first
[06:12] <nickrud> seracht: arg. No, you have to find an outside repo for it
[06:12] <zxcvbnm> oh i see thanks for your information
[06:12] <AntiUSA> is Kubuntu aesthetically better than Ubuntu?
[06:12] <AntiUSA> and does it have any disadvantages
[06:12] <seracht> nickrud:  any guides out there?
[06:12] <cwillu> AntiUSA, is a honda aesthetically better than a toyota?
[06:12] <cwillu> AntiUSA, depends on who you ask
[06:13] <AntiUSA> well which has more visual effects?
[06:13] <nickrud> seracht: http://getdeb.net/app/Avant+Window+Navigator , but I do not vouch for the quality
[06:13] <SRN9> I have been using Kubuntu and ubuntu for about 2 yrs now, they both seem to be quite the same, other than the wm.
[06:13] <AntiUSA> wm?
[06:14] <AntiUSA> does one have more compatability/stability than the other?
[06:14] <SRN9> window manager, or user interface, sorry about that.
[06:14] <bluebanana> cwillu: did the chmod command, but there's an error
[06:14] <AntiUSA> ah ok, sorry i'm nbew to linux
[06:14] <nickrud> AntiUSA: the best description of the difference I've seen is something along the lines of kde is for tweakers, gnome is for users ;)
[06:14] <SRN9> no problem
[06:15] <AntiUSA> thanks Nick, thats helpful
[06:15] <cwillu> !pullingteeth
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pullingteeth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <bluebanana> cwillu: try downloading it
[06:15]  * brdoco must be invisible
[06:15] <nickrud> AntiUSA: not to say that kde is any less / more than gnome, they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Try both for yourself
[06:16] <cwillu> bluebanana, try telling me what the error is; I'm just helping out while waiting for builds and transfers and the like
[06:16] <bluebanana> only 400 kb
[06:16] <bluebanana> error is: ...
[06:16] <cwillu> !pastebin
[06:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:16] <karllenz> hey when i run the ubuntu live cd i cant get passed the boot screen
[06:16] <cwillu> pastebin it if it's more than a line or two
[06:17] <norml_advocat2> hey guys!  just check out ESR  good start.  what else should i look at to start my hacker training?
[06:17] <zepmantra> hello there, how to run vlc gui program during startup, adding /usr/bin/vlc on rc.local won't work
[06:17] <icesword> karllenz, u mean it freezed?
[06:17] <karllenz> kind of
[06:17] <nickrud> zepmantra: system->prefs->session, add it there
[06:17] <samuel> Anyody can help me?
[06:17] <karllenz> it has for lines all starting with boot
[06:17] <nickrud> !ask | samuel
[06:17] <ubotu> samuel: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:17] <zepmantra> thanks
[06:17] <karllenz> and it wont go any further
[06:17] <cwillu> bluebanana, I want to help, but I don't really want to start other programs while I'm in the middle of this build
[06:18] <noroot> i am using ubuntu fiesty and want to backup my sms on nokia 6600, any solution?
[06:18] <norml_advocat2> hey guys!  just check out ESR  good start.  what else should i look at to start my hacker training?
[06:18] <zxcvbnm> fuck you
[06:18] <norml_advocat2> what programming language do hackers use?
[06:18] <AntiUSA> is there a new distribution of Ubuntu coming soon?
[06:18] <nickrud> !language | zxcvbnm
[06:18] <ubotu> zxcvbnm: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:18] <karllenz> ill boot in now to so we can work on this
[06:18] <bluebanana> cwillu: http://pastebin.com/m7dad1a9f
[06:18] <zxcvbnm> alll peopoooooooooopple fucccccccckkkkkk  offfffffffffffffff
[06:18] <cwillu> bluebanana, thx
[06:18] <norml_advocat2> zxcvbnm is bugbye
[06:19] <demon_spork> what is the command to run the opengl gears thing?
[06:19] <brdoco> hello..?
[06:19] <norml_advocat2> nickrud how did you do that?
[06:19] <cwillu> bluebanana, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:19] <cwillu> bluebanana, and then try running it again
[06:19] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: I'm a channel op
[06:19] <norml_advocat2> that was some hacker sh#%
[06:19] <bluebanana> cwillu: thanks!
[06:19] <norml_advocat2> i wanna be a n op
[06:19] <norml_advocat2> nickrud how can i become an op?
[06:20] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: spend a couple years here, helping out.
[06:20] <norml_advocat2> nickrud thats toooo slow
[06:20] <BlackrayJack> Then you'll never reach opdom
[06:20] <norml_advocat2> nickrud just gimme the crash course
[06:20] <karllenz> can anyone help me out here im new to linux and irc lol
[06:21] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: Ok, the really fast way is a large cash bribe
[06:21] <karllenz> lol
[06:21] <cwillu> lol
[06:21] <karllenz> wish i had that
[06:21] <TurtleOfDoom> karllenz: perhaps you could try a large cash bribe
[06:21] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom  ive got tree fiddy
[06:21] <icesword> ...
[06:21] <TurtleOfDoom> karllenz: or you could just ask your question :-D
[06:21] <cwillu> what's the ctrl key for an eof char?
[06:21] <karllenz> ok i bott the live cd and it doesnt seem to boot
[06:22] <credible> cwillu: Ctrl+D
[06:22] <nickrud> cwillu: ^D
[06:22] <norml_advocat2> nickrud do you know anything about kubuntu
[06:22] <brdoco> nickrud.. how can i get to be not ignored?
[06:22] <bluebanana> cwillu: http://pastebin.com/m1fc0d40d
[06:22] <bluebanana> (error)
[06:22] <TurtleOfDoom> karllenz: ok, you put it in the computer, turn it on and what do you see on the screen
[06:22] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: very little, I run gnome
[06:22] <karllenz> right now ubuntu with a loading bar
[06:22] <TurtleOfDoom> karllenz: for how long?
[06:23] <nickrud> brdoco: ignored? If it was for a question, it either got lost in the channel scroll, or no one knew the answer. Ask every 10 minutes or so
[06:23] <[chr0n0s]> anyone here who uses tomboy?
[06:23] <norml_advocat2> nickrud is that also known as gdk?  and is gnome better?  and why did my computer start messing up when I installed KDE?
[06:23] <cwillu> bluebanana, find out if they say anything on the site about needing dependencies
[06:23] <karllenz> then it goes to a screen that has four lines ending in {ok}
[06:23] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: gdk is a part of gnome
[06:23] <linux_user400354> how can i remove everything installed from the mediubuntu repository and undo all the changes it did? it also upgraded software and things do not work right. id really like to do more than take it out of my sources.list. i need to undo all the changes it did. could anyone please tell me how?
[06:23] <cwillu> bluebanana, looks like you probably need libsdl-dev or something
[06:23] <bluebanana> cwillu: "  Note: To build from source, you must have the SDL development library installed. "
[06:23] <karllenz> and it wont go any farther
[06:23] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom which part is it?
[06:23] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: why kde messes up your system? no clue, really
[06:23] <cwillu> bluebanana, yep;  open synaptic, look for libsdl-dev, or stuff like that
[06:24] <bluebanana> cwillu: can i uninstall the build-essential?
[06:24] <TurtleOfDoom> karllenz: what is the last line before it stops
[06:24] <SRN9> what are you doing with tomboy?
[06:24] <norml_advocat2> ever since i installed kde my computer will not hibernate anymore
[06:24] <norml_advocat2> it just crashes
[06:24] <karllenz> running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[06:24] <cwillu> bluebanana, you'll need it for this for sure, it's not a bad thing to have installed anyway
[06:24] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: basically gdk is waht you use when you log in graphically
[06:25] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom is there a way to login using the terminal no GUI at all, and then run a command to open gnome?
[06:25] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: yes
[06:25] <karllenz> my guess is its my vidio card cuz whe i change it it seems to work
[06:25] <Risky> heya - i'm trying to install off a usb drive, but a don't know which thing in /dev/ is my usb stick - any way to find out?
[06:25] <nickrud> TurtleOfDoom: no, that's gdm. gdk is sort of a wrapper around gtk, which draws the widgets in your windows
[06:25] <[chr0n0s]> SRN9, ?
[06:26] <Risky> i tried mounting a whole bunch of them but I always get no such device or something
[06:26] <AtomicSpark> so how come there are no web editing programs for ubuntu? D:
[06:26] <icesword> rishy,it is sda ususlly
[06:26] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom wilt though teach me oh wise turtle master
[06:26] <TurtleOfDoom> karllenz: I'm sorry, I'm probably not the best person to help you with this, perhaps someone else ...
[06:26] <Risky> icesword: and if that's not working?
[06:26] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: :-) "startx"
[06:26] <nickrud> AtomicSpark: kompozer does that, also amaya
[06:26] <karllenz> damn
[06:26] <karllenz> lol
[06:26] <Risky> both sda and sdb aren't working - any way to actually identify it?
[06:26] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom this wont break my comp. will it?
[06:26] <icesword> Risky, sda.depend on your hard disk type ,if you  hd is hda,then usb is sda
[06:27] <norml_advocat2> i do not like kde
[06:27] <Risky> yeah its all sata
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> icesword: all are sda now.
[06:27] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: if you tell me what you're planning to do, I might be able to answer that question
[06:27] <icesword> what?
[06:27] <Risky> so...what should i try if it doesn't mount?
[06:27] <icesword> Risky, it is sdb
[06:27] <nickrud> tonyyarusso: not quite, my drive still gets recognized as hda
[06:27] <Risky> its fat32, should i use vfat?
[06:27] <norml_advocat2> i want my computer to boot into the terminal .  and be able to run gnome with a command line
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> icesword: all drives will show up as /dev/sd* now, regardless.
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: what release?
[06:28] <norml_advocat2> hacker style
[06:28] <TurtleOfDoom> nickrud: ahh yes, screwing up my accronmys, I wish the gnome people would be more creative
[06:28] <nickrud> tonyyarusso: gutsy
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: crazy
[06:28] <Gumby> I accidentally left a hardy repo enable and now I am trying to figure out which packages got installed (not many) so I can downgrade them back to gutsy. Is there an easy way to do this?
[06:28] <nickrud> tonyyarusso: I read somewhere that some drives still get that. I have 4200rpm drives in my laptop
[06:28] <icesword> tonyyarusso, what u mean
[06:28] <Risky> should i be trying to mount /dev/sda or /dev/sda#
[06:28] <Risky> ?
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Risky: #
[06:29] <icesword> sdb
[06:29] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom have you forsaken me master?
[06:29] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: yes, you can do that, I believe you have to change the "runlevel" but I'm not the best person to answer the question
[06:29] <norml_advocat2> gotcha
[06:30] <norml_advocat2> nickrud will know what to do
[06:30] <twiztr> I just set my ATi card to use the propriatary  drivers, and it won't let me set any visual effects. Says something about composites.
[06:30] <Risky> bleh well i'm just gonna burn it
[06:30] <Risky> just doesn't work
[06:30] <icesword> Risky, ?
[06:30] <twiztr> Risky: kill it with fire.
[06:30] <Risky> i tried every sd* they all say its not there
[06:30] <norml_advocat2> nickrud do you know how to boot to just a plain old terminal, and then type a command to enter gnome
[06:30] <Risky> even though i just booted off the damn thing
[06:30] <Risky> burn it to cd i meant
[06:30] <gavin__> good day everybody. How do I upgrade from feisty to gutsy
[06:30] <AtomicSpark> twiztr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:31] <twiztr> AtomicSpark: Thank you.
[06:31] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: to completely remove kde, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome .
[06:31] <AtomicSpark> twiztr: also need xserver-xgl if you get xgl error when trying switchcommand --compiz
[06:31] <AtomicSpark> whatever it is :P its at the end
[06:31] <norml_advocat2> nickrud good call im gonna bookmark that but until then do you know how to boot to a terminal, and what command starts gnome?
[06:32] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: not without some reconfiguration
[06:32] <Aloha> how do i change my system hostname?
[06:32] <nickrud> !hostname | Aloha
[06:32] <ubotu> Aloha: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[06:32] <msn> i have setup a ubuntu gutsy mirror for my organisation, the mirror works fine on the installed hosts, but while i try to install a new host using netboot it fails with 404 while trying to download some files
[06:33] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:33] <AtomicSpark> a mirror for your organizatoin...
[06:33] <AtomicSpark> brilliant!
[06:33] <raddy> When i issue du -h -d1 i get this error
[06:33] <raddy> -d invalid option
[06:33] <norml_advocat2> nickrud thats a good page.  what type of config. are we talkin?
[06:34] <msn> well i dont want everyone of them hitting some mirror and choking my internet badwidth when all are going to get the same stuff
[06:34] <GAS_Ubuntu> ㅇ
[06:34] <icesword> ...
[06:34] <AtomicSpark> raddy: there is only D and im guessing its not what you want. invalid operation means the command usage is wrong.
[06:34] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: turning off the login screen, and setting up startx . But to be truthful, I haven't done that in a couple of years, and am not sure I remember completely
[06:35] <norml_advocat2> nickrud okey dokely then
[06:35] <norml_advocat2> Is anyone in this room smarter than nickrud?
[06:35] <AtomicSpark> msn: hmm. they are working on a ubuntu update server. that would be neat. just like wsus for windows.
[06:35] <raddy> AtomicSpark : i understand the meaning of invalid option.
[06:35] <supershort> hey
[06:35] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: i am :D
[06:35] <shawn3> I'm trying to have a Makefile where if I type 'make vim' it will open vim with a file named for the current date formatted `date '+%Y-%m-%d'` could anyone help me with this?
[06:35] <supershort> anyone know how to reset mysql password
[06:35] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: ask for help in setting up startx , someone will chime in. Probably a lot of people who come thru here have it set up
[06:35] <raddy> AtomicSpark : http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/09/27/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
[06:35] <supershort> cos i kinda forgot the root password
[06:35] <msn> AtomicSpark: it also works with new installs using apt-get or synaptic
[06:35] <nickrud> norml_advocat2: many, many, many :)
[06:36] <msn> the only thing that doesnt work is new installs
[06:36] <raddy> AtomicSpark : how do i use the guide
[06:36] <Supaplex> supershort: that FAQ is all over the net. ask google :)
[06:36] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark  do you know how to setup startx
[06:36] <norml_advocat2> ?
[06:36] <msn> i meant new OS installation over the network is not able to find some packages
[06:36] <norml_advocat2> Does anyone know how to setup startx?
[06:37] <AtomicSpark> raddy: according to the man file for du, -d doesnt exist. i am not sure where that guide got it. :\ maybe on other distros?
[06:37] <msn> raddy: what are you trying to do?
[06:38] <msn> may be you need du -h --max-depth=1
[06:38] <bluefoxx> ok, so im trying to make a shell script to open streamripper and automatically start ripping four streams, but i want it to open them in seperate tabs of gnome-terminal. what is the command for this?
[06:38] <raddy> msn : trying to find big folder and big file
[06:38] <msn> raddy: du -h |grep G
[06:39] <msn> raddy: du -h |grep M
[06:39] <msn> should find you those :P
[06:39] <norml_advocat2> Does anyone know how to setup StartX?
[06:40] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: i assume you mean xserver. startx is the command to start it. :P
[06:40] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark  i want my computer to boot into the terminal no GUI
[06:41] <norml_advocat2> then run the GUI
[06:41] <norml_advocat2> using startx apparently
[06:42] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: no. unfortunately, ubuntu doesnt use run levels. in other distros, you can change your run level to 3, and everything will be terminal only. you may beable to log out and change your session to terminal only. i am not sure. once gnome or kde is installed, it takes over. :P
[06:42] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: well, "sudo apt-get remove gdm" will remove the graphical startup program from your computer, that will start it in a terminal, then you have to set it up to you can run "startx" and it will load into gnome
[06:43] <AtomicSpark> startx starts xserver/x11 not gnome :P but yes it would get you into gui
[06:43] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom so if i remove gdm i can still run gnome?  mr. spark says not
[06:44] <TurtleOfDoom> AtomicSpark: and the x-server will run gnome if you set it up correctly, you're arguing semantics
[06:44] <supershort> how do i remove apps?
[06:44] <supershort> without package manager
[06:44] <AtomicSpark> TurtleOfDoom: yes i am. :P dont want the boy confused. if he removes gnome it will be gone. no more.
[06:44] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom does that slowdown the desktop alot?
[06:45] <ste-foy> thank you for your help AtomicSpark
[06:45] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: what are you trying to do? boot into terminal only then have the option to switch to gui?
[06:45] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark you got it, i want my friends to think that i am a superhacker
[06:45]  * TurtleOfDoom laughs
[06:45] <norml_advocat2> and that looks pretty cool
[06:46] <Schmao-Fmao> Anyone here with Sun Grid Engine experience? :)
[06:46] <Schmao-Fmao> I'm a little confused about something and would appreciate a little help
[06:46] <bluefoxx> ok, so im trying to make a shell script to open streamripper and automatically start ripping four streams, but i want it to open them in seperate tabs of gnome-terminal. what is the command for this?
[06:46] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: haha. you may not beable to do that, because of how ubuntu doesnt use run levels (afaik) but let me check if you can log into terminal only.
[06:46]  * AtomicSpark will be right back
[06:47] <norml_advocat2> turtleofdoom what does atomicspark mean by levels?
[06:48] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: on other distributions there are different "levels" you can start your computer in
[06:48] <norml_advocat2> can you move through the levels without rebooting?
[06:49] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat2: level x would start you at a console, level y would start you with a pretty GUI, to answer your question, I beleive so, but it has been several years, and as someone reminded me ubuntu doesn't do things that way
[06:49] <AtomicSpark> hmm that was what i was afraid of
[06:49] <AtomicSpark> you are right sir. ubuntu doesnt use run levels.
[06:50] <AtomicSpark> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[06:50] <amedx> try ubuntu+gnome+e17 it's fantastic
[06:50] <amedx> your name es opengeu
[06:50] <TurtleOfDoom> well it is possible, because my box using the server edition starts to a console
[06:50] <Rat409> sudo gedit /etc/inittab>change 5 to 3; then either put exec gnome-session in your users /home/.xinitrc to use startx or do xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session
[06:51] <AtomicSpark> TurtleOfDoom: does it have gnome installed?
[06:51] <AtomicSpark> TurtleOfDoom: or xserver?
[06:51] <TurtleOfDoom> AtomicSpark: yes, but I've never actually tried running x on it
[06:52] <Rat409> runlevel3 is multi-user console login disables gdm 5=gdm
[06:52] <kerzack> Does anyone know of drivers for GeForce 7900 GS other than the ones that come from the restricted drivers manager? In windows I was using my 7900 without power supply hookups(don't currently have a powerful enough power supply) and it would just limit the draw on the card. Is there anything like this for Ubuntu or should I just go without hardware accelleration until I get my new power supply?
[06:53] <Parliament> alright, this is going to sound really kind of noob, but i just switched over to ubuntu from windows
[06:53] <AtomicSpark> Rat409: you've done this on ubuntu?
[06:53] <Parliament> i'm dual booting
[06:53] <norml_advocat2> rat409 you sound like a genius
[06:53] <Rat409> on about 30 distros yuh
[06:53] <Parliament> i partitioned off and installed and everything's going well
[06:53] <norml_advocat2> you can be my mentor
[06:53] <supershort> HOW DO I UNINSTALL LAMPP WITHOUT PACKAGE MANGER
[06:53] <Parliament> but for some reason i can't access my itunes music folder to import it into rhythmbox or banshee
[06:53] <Rat409> not a genius but about 4yrs linux,its in wiki i'm sure
[06:54] <Parliament> when i open the itunues folder in my documents, it just brings up the album art folder and nothing else
[06:54] <AtomicSpark> Rat409: yes. thats nice. i was asking if you did this on ubuntu. because from the link i just gave said ubuntu doesnt use runlevels.
[06:54] <TurtleOfDoom> !partition | parliament
[06:54] <ubotu> parliament: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:54] <ticked> hey all!!! gotta question, how to i set things up so i can see my windows machine through my router?
[06:54] <ticked> +2
[06:54] <ticked> .
[06:54] <TurtleOfDoom> hmm, wrong help
[06:54] <norml_advocat2> rat409 i would like my computer  (gutsy-gnome)  to boot into a terminal only.  and then be able to move through the levels to a ui
[06:54] <ticked>  Pp oops sorry dropped my keyboard
[06:54] <Parliament> no, i'm partitioned fine, haha, i just can't access my itunes music
[06:54] <norml_advocat2> *gui
[06:54] <Parliament> it's in my XP my documents folders, and i thought i imported it over, but it won't show up
[06:55] <TurtleOfDoom> !diskmounter | Parliament  (that's for accessing windows partitions, is that what you want?)
[06:55] <ubotu> Parliament  (that's for accessing windows partitions, is that what you want?): To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[06:55] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[06:55] <pawan> hi
[06:55] <pawan> unable to startx
[06:55] <supershort> fuk me
[06:55] <norml_advocat2> pawan welcome to my world
[06:55] <supershort> this chnnal is useless
[06:55] <norml_advocat2> supershort !etiquette
[06:56] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: scroll up i told you the 2 steps and a 3rd alternative.
[06:56] <Parliament> will i be able to play my mp3s on my winows partition without copying them over to my ubuntu partition?
[06:56] <dan> `LePGeL[BoY]: 7x3
[06:56] <pawan> your world
[06:56] <pawan> where is it
[06:56] <norml_advocat2> rat409 i must have missed that
[06:56] <Parliament> because my library is near 30 gigs
[06:56] <supershort> !etiquette
[06:56] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !English - and most importantly, use common sense...
[06:56] <norml_advocat2> pawan in my pants
[06:56] <`LePGeL[BoY]> dan: ?
[06:56] <TurtleOfDoom> Parliament: probably
[06:56] <pawan> lol
[06:56] <kerzack> Erm...should also add that I have been googling this for about 30-60mins now. No luck.
[06:56] <Parliament> alright
[06:56] <`LePGeL[BoY]> dan: 21?
[06:56] <pawan> what a world man
[06:56] <supershort> how do i remove aps
[06:56] <Parliament> because my ubuntu partition is only about 10 gigs, so if i have to transfer it over, it's going to fill up the partition
[06:57] <pawan> love it
[06:57] <dan> bot?
[06:57] <TurtleOfDoom> supershort: using the same program you used to install them?
[06:57] <dan> dan?
[06:57] <supershort> i installed lampp but its not on the thing
 bot you face.. ..|..
[06:57] <pawan> how to save menu.lst
[06:57] <AtomicSpark> supershort: add/remove programs or synaptic package manager. you should never manually install software unless you know what you're doing. ;)
[06:57] <pawan> want the change the hd parameters
[06:58] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: step 1 sudo gedit /etc/inittab then change init:5: to a 3; xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session;or add exec /usr/bin/gnome-session to your ~/.xinitrc and use startx
[06:58] <dan> danoldman!V
[06:59] <dan> BB
[06:59] <norml_advocat2> rat409 can this hurt my computer?
[06:59] <Schmao-Fmao> Anyone know a bit about SGE? I'm confused about something small
[06:59] <dan> DVD?
[06:59] <pawan> how to reconfigure startx
[07:00] <AtomicSpark> pawan: what's your problem?
[07:00] <kerzack> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <pawan> unable to view output from graphics card
[07:00] <kerzack> if its the no screens found problem just select new video card drivers from the list
[07:00] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: then you can sudo su to root and do telinit 2,then init 3,then startx or whatever.
[07:00] <norml_advocat2> ooohhhh i think i kinda get that part
[07:01] <norml_advocat2> im gonna save all this stuff you just typed
[07:01] <Rat409> or just reboot then login to console prompt
[07:01] <norml_advocat2> and go over it with someone
[07:01] <Rat409> sure
[07:02] <norml_advocat2> rat409 so this will disable the gui though right? no clicky screen at all?
[07:02] <Rat409> yes,
[07:02] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: i wish you luck being an extreme hacker ;)
[07:02] <fuffalo> is it possible to cat something to my clipboard?  like...  cat messages > (clipboard)
[07:02] <Rat409> you log in to a virtual-console
[07:02] <pawan> how to enable restricted drivers from livecd
[07:02] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark thankyou sir, i prefer elite ninja hacker though
[07:02] <kerzack> for future reference : II'm about to install drivers for my video card, in the event I cannot startx after this, how can I remove the drivers from the command line?
[07:02] <SimplySeth> how does one remove a higher version package and replace it with the supported ubuntu version from the repos ?
[07:03] <norml_advocat2> rat409 virtual console eh?  sounds like a game
[07:03] <kerzack> pawan, System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager
[07:03] <pawan> but when i reboot it looses restriced drivers
[07:03] <bluefoxx> ok, so im trying to make a shell script to open streamripper and automatically start ripping four streams, but i want it to open them in seperate tabs of gnome-terminal. what is the command for this?
[07:03] <pawan> and cant load graphics interface in normal mode
[07:03] <norml_advocat2> simplyseth http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[07:03] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: no,more like a fullscreen xterm,las in ctrl+alt+F1-F7 etc.
[07:03] <Barry_> my audigy 2 and logitech usb audio arent working in a fresh install of ubuntu and i updated and still no sound
[07:04] <SimplySeth> norml_advocat2: thanks
[07:04] <norml_advocat2> rat409 i do not know what that means at all
[07:04] <Risky> could a usb drive be anywhere other than /dev/sd*?
[07:04] <kerzack> pawan, that's because you're using the live cd, you'll have to install Ubuntu to actually save changes.
[07:04] <norml_advocat2> i am sooo new to this its scary
[07:04] <AtomicSpark> ...
[07:04] <norml_advocat2> but I hate windows
[07:04] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: why do you hate windows?
[07:04] <norml_advocat2> and i beat atomic spark to that answer and im not an op
[07:05] <Risky> i noticed on boot that the usb drive showed up under removables wheras on most machines it shows up as a hard drive on boot
[07:05] <pawan> i installed ubuntu but it is not loading nvidia drives so how to reinstall nvidia drivers from command prompt
[07:05] <norml_advocat2> windows crashes and gets viruses like crazy
[07:05] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: at the console login if you want gdm back just sudo gdm
[07:05] <Risky> norml_advocat2: man so biased in her
[07:05] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: thats a user problem not a operating system issue. and what did you beat me to? :P i'm not an "op"
[07:05] <SimplySeth> norml_advocat2: hmmm not what I wanted .. but thanks .. I installed a newer version of Mixxx and I want to go back the repository version of mixxx
[07:05] <Risky> i haven't had windows xp crash in at least a year
[07:05] <kerzack> pawan, make sure you aren't booting from live cd if you've already installed ubuntu and to be booting from your harddrive
[07:05] <Risky> i can't say the same about ubuntu
[07:06] <kerzack> my ubuntu crashes all the time
[07:06] <kerzack> thats my fault though
[07:06] <kerzack> D:
[07:06] <norml_advocat2> rat409 your a pro im just show
[07:06] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark your not bad yourself
[07:06] <Risky> man i cannot get this usb thing to work...
[07:06] <norml_advocat2> simplyseth get a flippin life
[07:06] <norml_advocat2> j/k
[07:06] <pawan> how to reconfigure nvidia drivers
[07:06] <Rat409> we were all newbies once
[07:06] <Risky> i booted off the usb just fine and now i can't mount it as a drive
[07:06] <Barry_> my audigy 2 and logitech usb audio arent working in a fresh install of ubuntu and i updated and still no sound
[07:06] <Risky> it just hates me
[07:06] <Sinister> i cant find in the settings where you can set your monotor off after like 30 min of being idle anyone know where its at in kde
[07:07] <Risky> i'm doing: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /cdrom <-- look right?
[07:07] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: i'm still iffy about what you're trying to do since everything i read states that ubuntu doesnt use runlevels. but hey i'm not going to argue. lol.
[07:07] <kerzack> Anyone know how to uninstall drivers from terminal?
[07:07] <norml_advocat2> atomic spark ill repost how do I use the postbin
[07:07] <norml_advocat2> !postbin
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <Barry_> my audigy 2 and logitech usb audio arent working in a fresh install of ubuntu and i updated and still no sound
[07:07] <Zhaozhou> !pastebin
[07:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:08] <runemaste> im running ubuntu 7.10, and i installed libdvd* and w32codecs and all the gstreamer plugins (i think!) and all i get when trying to run a dvd is "Could not read from resource"
[07:08] <norml_advocat2> thankx
[07:08] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: repost what? i saw what he said. i know it would work on redhat or suse, but ubuntu? donno.
[07:08] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: something for me to look into now.
[07:09] <Barry_> my audigy 2 and logitech usb audio arent working in a fresh install of ubuntu and i updated and still no sound
[07:09] <VvWolverinevV> hi i do not want ubuntu to boot with a silent splash, but every time there is an update, that parameter is reset, how can i prevent this?
[07:09] <AtomicSpark> Barry_: do you have any drivers listed unchecked in your system > administration >restricted driver manager?
[07:10] <runemaste> anyone have any ideas why?
[07:10] <Barry_> let me check
[07:10] <student> unable to install?
[07:10] <Barry_> yeah nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[07:10] <student> on compaq 6715b laptop
[07:10] <student> plz helpppppppppppppp
[07:10] <Rat409> AtomicSpark: look in /etc/rc0.d-rc6.d
[07:11] <student> unable to install ubuntu
[07:11] <AtomicSpark> Barry_: well you can enable that, wont help your audio issue. is this on board? usb? addon card?
[07:11] <AtomicSpark> student: settle young padawon. you installed ubuntu on your harddrive?
[07:12] <Barry_> i guess the audigy is on board how can i tell?
[07:12] <StamR> Hallo, i have a problem with an installation . Who can assist?
[07:12] <norml_advocat2> rat409 did i mention i install kde but switched back to gdm?
[07:12] <msn> audigy is external i think
[07:12] <norml_advocat2> rat409 does that matter?
[07:12] <msn> or atleast external card
[07:12] <Barry_> its a card pluged into the mother board isent it?
[07:12] <msn> i mean pci card
[07:12] <Barry_> ive lookd inside my case before
[07:12] <student> no live cd installation problems
[07:12] <msn> yup
[07:12] <degreseven> Hello, I have 3 partitions that were in an lvm volume on a previous installation. How can i reassemble them on a fresh install?
[07:13] <msn> format them degreseven
[07:13] <msn> :P
[07:13] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: no unless you used dpkg-reconfigure to use kdm,then if needed from console-login type kdm
[07:13] <msn> if you cant that's different
[07:13] <degreseven> no, i need the data on them
[07:13] <runemaste> any idea why im getting "Could not read from resource" from totem?
[07:13] <AtomicSpark> Barry_: that would be a pci card. i guess ubuntu doesn't have a driver for it. odd. of course creative always had crappy drivers *cough*
[07:13] <student> during install, black screen appears. it says that it is loading many things. but it gets stuck at something like, /etc
[07:14] <student> plz helpppppppppppppp
[07:14] <norml_advocat2> rat409 i used syn. apt. pack. man.
[07:14] <talcite> student, what does your dmesg say?
[07:14] <norml_advocat2> or yeah
[07:14] <student> unable to install ubuntu on compaq 6715b laptop
[07:14] <AtomicSpark> student: you tried to run the installer from live cd?
[07:14] <student> i don't remember exactly
[07:14] <norml_advocat2> rat409 would you happen to know anything about aircrack-ng?
[07:14] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: doesn't matter its whatever dm you call from the console,need root-powers tho kdm,gdm,etc.
[07:15] <student> yes AtomicSpark>
[07:15] <AtomicSpark> haha.
[07:15] <Risky> ok
[07:15] <Barry__> how can i get my usb audio working
[07:15] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: not really,know what it is,no exp. with it.
[07:15] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: you're alll about being a extreme hacker aren't you?
[07:15] <norml_advocat2> ELITE!!!!
[07:15] <Risky> so i can confirm that my usb stick is without a doubt /dev/sdb4, but i can't mount it because it says "No such device" - what are my options?
[07:15] <norml_advocat2> Elite Ninja Hacker!
[07:16] <Barry__> how can i get my usb audio working
[07:16] <StamR> Who can Assist with an Installation PROBLEM  ?
[07:16] <Rat409> Barry__: sometimes onboard needs to be disabled in bios
[07:16] <Risky> like, i do mount -t vfat /dev/sdb4 /cdrom
[07:16] <corporeal> damnit. i was gonna slap him first
[07:16] <norml_advocat2> Does anyone know how to use aircrack-ng?
[07:16] <Barry__> y wud that matter
[07:17] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: i've used it before
[07:17] <norml_advocat2> wooot
[07:17] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark i just ran it through syn. pack. man. and i dont think it did anything
[07:17] <xTheGoat121x> Does anyone in here have a Celeron M-based laptop?
[07:17] <Rat409> Risky: wouldn't mtpoint be /media/cdrom or /mnt/cdrom?
[07:18] <student> yes AtomicSpark???
[07:18] <Barry__> ant there anyway to get my logitech usb headset working? id rather have it than my audigy 2 sound
[07:18] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: you don't want to install it in ubuntu. you should use this live cd. which ill get you a link.
[07:18] <student> plz helpppppppppppppp
[07:18] <student> i'm unable to install ubuntu on compaq 6715b laptop
[07:18] <student> during install, black screen appears. it says that it is loading many things. but it gets stuck at something like, /etc
[07:18] <student> plz helpppppppppppppp
[07:19] <norml_advocat2> student i was a student once, then i became an elite ninja hacker
[07:19] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html
[07:19] <Risky> Rat409: does it matter?
[07:19] <Barry__> ant there anyway to get my logitech usb headset working? id rather have it than my audigy 2 sound
[07:19] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark i think your my new best friend
[07:19] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: do not use this illegally. kthxbai.
[07:19] <Rat409> Barry__: i'd do lsusb then check at alsa.org to find needed kernel-module or ubuntu-wiki
[07:19] <Risky> i think it needs to be /cdrom because thats where the installer looks
[07:19] <norml_advocat2> what is kthxbai
[07:19] <Barry__> k
[07:19] <student> plz helpppppppppppppp
[07:20] <student> plz helpppppppppppppp
[07:20] <student> plz helpppppppppppppp
[07:20] <jink1> Student: Try makeing a new cd
[07:20] <student> it works on a desktop pc
[07:20] <speeddemon8803> !repeat | student
[07:20] <ubotu> student: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:20] <student> i got it from ShipIt
[07:20] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: internet speak. ha. you need to learn ninja hacking skillz. but anyways. 1. its only supported on a few wireless cars, which you probably dont have. 2. to get it working on other cards is almost impossible sometimes requiring custom linux binaries. 3. only works on wep, which nobody should ever, ever use.
[07:21] <jink1> some cdroms are picky
[07:21] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark ok well its a start do you think it works with a broadcom 43xx?
[07:21] <jink1> might be worn/old
[07:21] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: no.
[07:22] <theo_> I was thinking, we could turn the homeless into tires.  So we can use them.. for our cars!
[07:22] <jak_> lol theo
[07:22] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: not even a slight hope of broadcom support. there is a link on there somewhere that says what is supported. mostly aeoros (sp) cards.
[07:22] <norml_advocat2> gotcha
[07:22] <runemaste> what doesnt have broadcom support?
[07:22] <norml_advocat2> its sumthin to read
[07:23] <jink1> Does anyone here use vmware?
[07:23] <bipoi> no one
[07:23] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat2: basically you'll be buying a pcmci (wow i dont even remember what this is called) card for your laptop if you want to use it. or a usb one. no internal.
[07:23] <jimlay> I have an ubuntu 32bit setup w/ encrypted root (setup with 7.10 upgraded to hardy) and I wanted to test try 64bit ubuntu. In the install of the 64bit ubuntu I told it that the encrypted partition was encrypted and tried to mount it. I carefully read everything to make sure it wasn't going to clobber anything. Eventually I got to a screen where I couldn't mount the partition w/o formatting it - even though I'd used the same partition. Anyway,
[07:23] <AtomicSpark> jink1: i used to use vmware when i was mostly on windows.
[07:23] <jimlay> Who should I talk to about this? Cause this is super not ok.
[07:24] <jimlay> (the clobbering the partition without the warning that "pressing yes will destroy an encrypted partition if there is one now"
[07:24] <samuel_> How to install microphone on ubuntu ?
[07:24] <norml_advocat2> atomicspark i dont think im gonna buy anything until i get a job :-)
[07:24] <jink1> Mine just stopped working. Was wondering if anyone else had this problem
[07:24] <AtomicSpark> jimlay: the whole point of the encryption is so nobody can mount it randomly. you'll have to unencrypt it somehow before using it.
[07:24] <jimlay> ) I had the strong impression I was performing a reversable operation - aka "trying to mount"
[07:25] <AtomicSpark> jimlay: if you used encrypted lvm, i don't think there is an undo option.
[07:25] <pawan> how to edit and save menu.lst
[07:25] <jink1> I believe it was an update that broke it
[07:26] <demonspork> why are so many of the people in here running irssi
[07:26] <demonspork> lol
[07:26] <jimlay> AtomicSpark: I completely understand this. I instructed the setup to setup the encrypted device using the same crypt key that I had before expecting that the block device would then contain my xfs partition.
[07:26] <Gregmond> pawan:  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:26] <norml_advocat2> domonspork what is irssi?
[07:26] <jimlay> (that's a bit wordy)
[07:27] <pawan> thanks want to change hd1 to hd0 how
[07:27] <norml_advocat2> what is irssi?
[07:27] <Rat409> pawan: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst,save file
[07:28] <Rat409> norml_advocat2: text-mode irc client
[07:28] <norml_advocat2> thankyou rat
[07:28] <norml_advocat2> and on that note it is this elite ninja hacker in trainings bed time
[07:28] <jak_> irc noob question:  i type "/join #python" and nothin happens... any ideas?  thanks
[07:29] <jak_> im in xchat
[07:29] <demon_spork> jak_, that channel requires that you identify with nickserv
[07:29] <notyeta> Hey, all, i wanna find a part-time job, anybody can give me some suggestion?
[07:29] <norml_advocat2> so if i see you out here again which is likely i will secretly hack into you system and then find out where you live and silently kill you
[07:29] <norml_advocat2> goodnight
[07:29] <norml_advocat2> mwahahahahahhahahahahaha
[07:29] <AtomicSpark> kids...
[07:29] <jak_> Thanks demon_spork
[07:30] <AtomicSpark> jimlay: so you're saying that since you made the key the same as the other drive, you should beable to see it?
[07:33] <jak_> anyone know how to register with nickserv?  (supa n00b here)
[07:33] <credible> !register | jak_
[07:33] <ubotu> jak_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[07:34] <jak_> !register | jak_
[07:34] <miguelito> hey guys can someone help me?
[07:34] <demon_spork> !ask miguelito
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask miguelito - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <demon_spork> !ask | miguelito
[07:34] <ubotu> miguelito: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:35] <Tensop> Guys, anyone know of a file in /proc or command that shows the current stats for the cpu(eg idle/user/nill/wait) ?
[07:35] <EADG> Tensop: top
[07:35] <Tensop> that isnt top :)
[07:36] <Tensop> i want to >> the output to a .htm
[07:36] <jimlay> AtomicSpark: no. I told the setup utility (textmode - I don't know the name) to use the hda5 partion as a luks crypt device just like I had the first time (same partition) and when it asked for the key I gave it the same key. I feel I've narrowed down what happened - and I'm pretty sure that when I said "use this as an encrypted partition" it went ahead and ran luksFormat on the block device w/o notifying me that it was doing it. I assumed i
[07:36] <Tensop> top would be a cpu intensive way of doing it
[07:36] <pawan> how to install oracle on ubuntu
[07:36] <EADG> Tensop: oh, ahh.
[07:37] <miguelito> i am using windows right now but i have dual boot.  i was was using ubuntu earlier for the first time im months and the internet was working fine.  (i use a wireless network adapter). I was told to upgrade because there was an upgrade so i did.  when i restarted, i couldnt connect to the internet.  ive tried every logical combination in the network settings.
[07:37] <jimlay> AtomicSpark, are you familiar with luks/crypto stuff? My real question is how do I figure out who maintains that bit of the installation scripts - or what mailinglist/forum do they communicate on.
[07:37] <jimlay> (this is happening on the alt install cd)
[07:38] <jink1> miguelito: do you know was wireless card is in your laptop?
[07:38] <miguelito> im using a desktop
[07:38] <jimlay> Tensop: there is a package that does sysinfo -> cgi very well.
[07:38] <jink1> What brand is the Wireless?
[07:38] <miguelito> im using it right now but it doesnt work in ubuntu after the update.  its a linksys
[07:38] <pawan> how to install oracle on ubuntu
[07:38] <jimlay> you prorably don't actually want to be writing your own system monitor. parsing the system load data in proc can be a bitch.
[07:40] <miguelito> can anyone help me with that?
[07:40] <jink1> miguelito: you may need to use ndiswrapper. Get the exact model of the card and try and search the forum
[07:41] <miguelito> what is ndiswrapper?
[07:41] <bashca> hi there all
[07:41] <jink1> miguelito: its a kernel mod that allows you to use windows drivers
[07:42] <miguelito> ok i just read about it.  how can i download it if i cant get online when im in ubuntu?
[07:42] <jink1> miguelito: Use a jump drive or floppy
[07:43] <miguelito> could i just save it on my computer and access it from ubuntu?
[07:43] <jink1> Miguelito: are you dual booting?
[07:43] <tom17bombadil_2> hello
[07:43] <pawan> how to install oracle on ubuntu
[07:44] <alexw> hey all
[07:44] <alexw> i have a issue
[07:44] <^futuro> hi to all
[07:44] <alexw> i am trying to use wpa_passphrase
[07:44] <tom17bombadil_2> i cant fetch my mail via smtp any more with evolution
[07:44] <alexw> but my passphrase has a \ etc
[07:44] <alexw> is there a way to enclose this
[07:44] <^futuro> I cant find ubuntu 7.04 for my notebook
[07:44] <^futuro> can we help me?
[07:45] <alexw> it keeps showing >
[07:45] <miguelito> yes i am dual booting but that doesnt matter.  my wireless internet worked until i restarted my computer after the update to 7.10 from 7.4
[07:45] <unikon>  Has anyone dealt with the new Front End Gui for Nmap called Zenmap yet and if so  is it any better than the other Guis that are already out now currently?
[07:46] <tom17bombadil_2> i read vague hints about bugs with updated evolutuion-versions.
[07:46] <tom17bombadil_2> who knows about that?
[07:46] <jink1>  Sure if you can access your windows partition from ubuntu then you can just save it
[07:46] <tom17bombadil_2> i use Evolution 2.10.1 on a 07.04 feisty
[07:47] <Rampdog> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC------------Anyone familiar with this? I'm having problems with 5-10sec stalls on Ubuntu 7.10---trying to figure out if this msg I get at boot may be linked
[07:47] <miguelito> yes i can jlink.  can i talk to u in another window so its not so confusing?
[07:47] <miguelito> because i have one other question which im sure u know the answer to
[07:47] <^futuro> Do you know amilo li 1705?
[07:48] <jink1> I suggest searching the forum. Im sure someone else has had the some issue.
[07:48] <JoshF> i am trying to generate a wpa hex key, yet the key i am using contains \ and it keeps showing up > new lines every time, how can i make it so i can enclose these I have tried ""
[07:48] <jink1> Havent reg my nick yet so I cant PM
[07:48] <^futuro> Hello everyone,
[07:49] <JoshF> e.g. wpa_passphrase essid mykey\334323
[07:49] <NickDangr>  starchat
[07:49] <^futuro> Ubuntu 7.10 on Fujitsu Siemens Amilo LI 1705?
[07:49] <miguelito> yes you can
[07:49] <Starnestommy> JoshF: does replacing the \ with a \\ work?
[07:49] <miguelito> i just pmed you.  look up top
[07:49] <JoshF> i will give it a try one sec
[07:49] <hw00djohn> hey, i'm trying to use tor privoxy and i'm having some trouble.  I installed it using "sudo apt-get install tor privoxy" and then installed the add-on to firefox.  now i'm not sure of what i need to do.  any help?
[07:50] <JoshF> nope
[07:50] <JoshF> still wants to goto a new line
[07:50] <miguelito> ok so i downloaded ndiswrapper and its a .tar file.  how do i work with that in unbuntu?
[07:50] <Tensop> try replacing the \ with 2 \'s, and putting a " on each end
[07:50] <^futuro> bye
[07:51] <JoshF> so e.g.
[07:51] <JoshF> \ is now \'\'
[07:51] <JoshF> correct?
[07:51] <JoshF> so "
[07:51] <JoshF> so "hey\'\'you"
[07:52] <Tensop> wpa_passphrase essid "mykey\\334323"
[07:52] <Tensop> not too sure whether that will work
[07:52] <jink1> miguelito: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:52] <Tensop> perhaps just remove the \ from the wpa box you're trying to authenticate with ;)
[07:52] <ariyako> hai
[07:52] <JoshF> that means changing 25 pc's :P
[07:52] <ariyako> i got problem with network on ubuntu 7.10
[07:53] <Tensop> surely networkmanager in gnome/kde can do the wpa auth for you JoshF :)
[07:53] <JoshF> i need it @ boot time
[07:53] <Tensop> ah hmm
[07:53] <JoshF> as it is a server
[07:53] <JoshF> networkmanager turns on at login time
[07:54] <Tensop> does the key HAVE to be generated on that server
[07:54] <JoshF> nope
[07:54] <Tensop> eg can you do it on a wpa key generator website
[07:54] <Tensop> http://www.badtech.org/tools/wpa/index.php
[07:54] <JoshF> looking for that
[07:54] <JoshF> thanks mate
[07:55] <Tensop> Linux is full of niggly shit like that JoshF - theres a way to do it... but i cant remember :)
[07:55] <JoshF> yeh i always encounter it when i get to \
[07:55] <hiddensoul> Tensop, maybe if he used the HEX value for the key instead of the ascii value
[07:55] <JoshF> i might ask #linux
[07:55] <JoshF> hiddensoul im trying to generate a hex value
[07:55] <yao_ziyuan> if a linux distro aims to conquer the world's desktop,
[07:55] <yao_ziyuan> it must appeal to app developers
[07:55] <yao_ziyuan> and the best way to that,
[07:55] <yao_ziyuan> is to support cross-platform open-source RAD tools like Lazarus and Code::Blocks
[07:55] <JoshF> for /etc/network/interfaces
[07:56] <hiddensoul> Oh ok JoshF
[07:57] <alexw> just wondering
[07:57] <alexw> i get a box come up every time i login
[07:57] <alexw> for keyring manager
[07:57] <alexw> i recently changed my password for my user account, it asks for my password but only accepts my old password
[07:58] <Flyerfye> here we call that an epic phail
[07:58] <jamesrdorn> System>Administration>Keyring Manager
[07:59] <Tara> Hello, I have a keyboard which has a volume knob on it but unfortunately after I installed the newest version 7.10, turning the knob does not affect the sound anymore (the little volume indicator pops up, but the sound is unaffected).  So far I'm only able to change volume through the program itself.  I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how I can get my keyboard to work again?
[07:59] <jamesrdorn> most likely for your wifi network key?
[08:00] <alexw> yeah
[08:00] <hotmonkeyluv> I've been looking online and I can't find if there is anything like the mac 'dashboard' for ubuntu. Is there?
[08:00] <_coredump_> moinsen
[08:01] <hw00djohn> how do i close firefox if it froze?
[08:01] <jamesrdorn> hotmonkeyluv: if you use the newest kubuntu KDE4 has a widgets option. in development they anounced that it would be apple dashboard compatable
[08:02] <Pete_B> I'm used to Debian rather than Ubuntu. A friend tells me Ubuntu's tasksel's lamp option does a load of integration / setup things that installing the packages separately doesn't. Where can I read about what extra setup it does? or can anyone tell me please?
[08:02] <miguelito> How do I get root?
[08:02] <jamesrdorn> hw00djohn, the best way for people that do not know their way around linux yet is to open the terminal "Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[08:02] <jamesrdorn> and type
[08:02] <jamesrdorn> xkill
[08:02] <hotmonkeyluv> jamesrdorn: what about if i use gnome?
[08:02] <jamesrdorn> then click on the firefox window
[08:02] <jamesrdorn> and poof, it's gone
[08:02] <FloodBot2> jamesrdorn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:02] <jamesrdorn> hotmonkeyluv, never even tried it to be honest.
[08:03] <Flyerfye> so who is the admin here?
[08:03] <hotmonkeyluv> thanks anyways!
[08:03] <jamesrdorn> I dont really use dashboard on the mac
[08:03] <neeto> So is there any way that I can map display 1 to JUST play EVE and have display 0 be my normal xfce setup?
[08:03] <Pete_B> miguelito: checkout 'sudo' and 'sudo -s'
[08:03] <zoidberg_> guys is there a nice easy way to convert .flac to .mp3 files?
[08:05] <Pete_B> zoidberg_: are you aware of the inherant loss of quality in going from one compressed format to another rather than ripping again from the original?
[08:05] <neeto> So is there any way that I can map display 1 to JUST play EVE and have display 0 be my normal xfce setup?
[08:06] <zoidberg_> Pete_B, i understand but will the loss of quality be that bad? besides i don't have the original
[08:06] <Pete_B> zoidberg_: I don;t know about the specifics as I've never done it. I guess the lower the bitrate / 'resolution' the worse as it has less info to go on
[08:09] <acee1234> is there an easy way to change the font color on windows/icons in ubuntu?
[08:09] <IndyGunFreak> acee1234: you mean like in the title bar?
[08:10] <Pete_B> Does the 'LAMP' installer do a load of integration / setup that wouldn't be done if installing apache, mysql & PHP packages separately?
[08:10] <acee1234> IndyGunFreak:  title bar/ icon names/ etc
[08:11] <IndyGunFreak> acee1234: hmm, not sure.. try messing with the System/Prefs/Appearance/Fonts Tab
[08:12] <IndyGunFreak> i know you can change the windows title font there(in the titlebar)
[08:12] <acee1234> IndyGunFreak:  no color options
[08:13] <firesword> !whoami
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> acee1234: hm.. no clue.. i'm sure it can be done, but since you asked for an easy way, i doubt it, its probably going to involve some heavy theme modifying or creating your own
[08:15] <acee1234> IndyGunFreak:  fun stuff
[08:15] <Barry_> the cube is no longer working for me but the wobbling windows still work
[08:15] <Barry_> the cube is no longer working for me but the wobbling windows still work
[08:16] <zoidberg_> guys is there a nice easy way to convert .flac to .mp3 files?
[08:20] <Pete_B> zoidberg_: I reckon you should use synaptic or or packages.ubuntu.com and search
[08:21] <acee1234> is there a way to "fdisk" in ubuntu?
[08:22] <ariyako> yeah
[08:22] <ariyako> by typing sudo fdisk -l
[08:22] <Pete_B> acee1234: gparted (GUI), cfdisk (CLI)
[08:23] <Pete_B> cfdisk is safer than fdisk
[08:26] <AntiUSA> does anyone know any good tools for hard disk wiping within Ubuntu (ie. that won't harm my data that I have not deleted)
[08:28] <pretender> I have seen youtube videos of ubuntu installs that have a mac like buttons along the bottom for firefox etc.  What is this called and how do i do it
[08:29] <msn> baghira
[08:31] <pocketdrummer> Ok, can someone explain to me what is wrong with flash? I've been trying to fix it for weeks now, and no matter what, something doesn't work.
[08:31] <erUSUL> !brokenflash
[08:31] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[08:31] <pocketdrummer> Go to http://www.soundexchange.com/ and tell me if it loads the page then goes away
[08:32] <humblerodent> I get the page j ust fine.
[08:32] <humblerodent> just*
[08:34] <pocketdrummer> erUSUL: didn't work.
[08:34] <Kitar|st> does anyone have normal telephone and would pm me so i can call him for just a test if my call works
[08:34] <erUSUL> pocketdrummer: :( then i dunno... worked for me even in amd64
[08:35] <pocketdrummer> erusul: try www.soundexchange.com
[08:35] <hotmonkeyluv> is desklets or screenlets better?
[08:35] <zqwe> look like spam
[08:36] <Kitar|st> lol
[08:36] <ogretmen> aa
[08:36] <Kitar|st> its not spam :|
[08:36] <zqwe> pocketdrummer: i refuse to load this site
[08:36] <karllenz> hi i was told to try out the alt ubuntu live cd to install ubuntu
[08:36] <karllenz> they said it may fix my problem of not being able to get passed running boot script
[08:36] <erUSUL> pocketdrummer: loads and seems to work here amd64
[08:36] <AntiUSA> does anyone know any good tools for hard disk wiping within Ubuntu (ie. that won't harm my data that I have not deleted)
[08:37] <erUSUL> pocketdrummer: althought some links are broken. he page is bad designed imho
[08:37] <edi> hello
[08:37] <zqwe> AntiUSA: nice nick
[08:37] <AntiUSA> thanks :)
[08:37] <s0ulstice__> whats up pocketdrummer
[08:37] <arooni-mobile> help!!!! the mplayer plugin for playing back .wmv and .divx files isnt working!!!
[08:37] <arooni-mobile> for firefox
[08:37] <pocketdrummer> erusul: so the whole page doesn't go grey for you?
[08:38] <erUSUL> pocketdrummer: nope
[08:38] <edi> << /msg ubotu etiquette >>
[08:38] <pocketdrummer> s0ulstice__: Well, anything flash-based is problematic. The page will load, then go completely gray...
[08:39] <s0ulstice__> Anyone, file associations with preferred applications? How?
[08:39] <s0ulstice__> pocketdrummer, And you installed the flash plugins via which method?
[08:39] <dhio> xfgxdbg
[08:40] <s0ulstice__> oops never mind found it
[08:41] <pocketdrummer> s0ulstice__: Yep, and it looks like it's working, then goes all gray. Makes no sense.
[08:41] <mush> how to connection with wireless?
[08:41] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to completely remove any hint of it and start over?
[08:42] <theo_> eit
[08:43] <theo_> exit
[08:43] <AntiUSA> thanks :)
[08:43] <mush> pisang_ngebut mo tanya donk
[08:43] <AntiUSA> does anyone know any good tools for hard disk wiping within Ubuntu (ie. that won't harm my data that I have not deleted)
[08:43] <s0ulstice__> pocketdrummer, I believe it is sudo apt-get remove --purge package && sudo apt-get install package
[08:43] <AntiUSA> no one?
[08:43] <s0ulstice__> AntiUSA, Are you talking about like a cleanup! for linux?
[08:43] <AntiUSA> not aware of cleanup!
[08:44] <s0ulstice__> AntiUSA, Well cleanup! is for windows though...
[08:44] <AntiUSA> I used to use Cyberscrub Privacy Tools
[08:44] <mush> attention for all
[08:44] <AntiUSA> it would scrub the sections of my hard drive that I had deleted stuff from to permenantly delete my data in case it ever fell into the wrong hands
[08:45] <mush> i have one question
[08:45] <s0ulstice__> AntiUSA, I see.. i suppose encrypting your drive is too much trouble then? or not secure enough for you?
[08:45] <PISANG_NGEBUT> nanya apa?
[08:45] <AntiUSA> so is there something like that for Linux?
[08:45] <s0ulstice__> mush, quit with the foreplay
[08:45] <AntiUSA> not secure enough
[08:46] <s0ulstice__> AntiUSA, you know, .. I dont know
[08:46] <AntiUSA> I should do that as well though
[08:46] <erUSUL> !ask | mush
[08:46] <ubotu> mush: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:46] <msn> i am trying to install ubuntu using a network mirror it boots up fine (which mean the netboot setup is okey) when i give it my local mirror is come back with "Warning **: bad d-i Pacakages file" and then followed by a wget error
[08:47] <AntiUSA> does encryption slow down a machine?
[08:47] <Symmetria> hrm, how the hell do I take a screenshot in xfce
[08:47] <s0ulstice__> AntiUSA, What are you doing that full disk encryption along with regular maintenance is not secure enough???
[08:47] <AntiUSA> significantly?
[08:48] <tockitj> Q: what tools can be used for voice recognition ? :-)
[08:48] <AntiUSA> soulstice, I'm a visible revolutionary political activist
[08:48] <zqwe> AntiUSA: :D
[08:48] <AntiUSA> pm me zqwe, lol
[08:48] <theo_> when I try to run the 64bit ubuntu nvidia driver package, it tells me I need to run it with root access - but I can't figure out how to execute it from a terminal with root - what's the command to execute files? ;/
[08:48] <AntiUSA> I don't want to rely on encryption
[08:48] <miguelito>  i was was using ubuntu earlier for the first time im months and the internet was working fine.  (i use a wireless network adapter). I was told to up
[08:48] <miguelito> grade because there was an upgrade so i did.  when i restarted, i couldnt connect to the internet.  ive tried every logical combination in the network settings.
[08:48] <s0ulstice__> theo_, use sudo
[08:49] <zqwe> AntiUSA: 1st i should register my nick, sorry :)
[08:49] <s0ulstice__> !sudo | theo_
[08:49] <ubotu> theo_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[08:49] <theo_> sudo's telling me it can't open the package
[08:49] <ariyako> theo: try sh
[08:49] <AntiUSA> I need to register mine as well
[08:49] <theo_> tried that, also telling me it can't open it
[08:49] <theo_> and I've set the access level to 'execute as program', as suggested on the nvidia forums
[08:49] <theo_> lemme get the error
[08:49] <ariyako> maybe with chmod some/
[08:49] <miguelito> What should I do to get the internet working?
[08:49] <theo_> sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run
[08:50] <s0ulstice__> theo_, you probably dont have it writable
[08:50] <theo_> hrmm
[08:50]  * theo_ makes sure of that
[08:50] <AntiUSA> what is the command to regiser ones nick on Freenode anyways?
[08:50] <s0ulstice__> theo_, try sudo chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run
[08:50] <theo_> nope, still telling me it can't
[08:50] <theo_> lemme try that one
[08:50] <miguelito> grade because there was an upgrade so i did.  when i restarted, i couldnt connect to the internet.  ive tried every logical combination in the network settings.
[08:50] <ariyako> maybe with chmod some/
[08:50] <s0ulstice__> theo_, Why don't you use the restricted driver manager?
[08:51] <ariyako> sudo apt-get install??
[08:51] <butuh_teman> huiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:51] <theo_> because the nvidia forums are telling me to not use that
[08:51] <zqwe> AntiUSA: can you see my PM messages? cuz i think PM messages work on this IRC only for registered nicks, but it was working without registering with ubotu...
[08:51] <theo_> chmod: cannot access `NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run': No such file or directory
[08:51] <theo_> -_-
[08:51] <s0ulstice__> theo_, Of course they are... I use it and it works every time..
[08:51]  * theo_ prods the directory structure
[08:51] <butuh_teman> where'r u??????????????????/
[08:51] <sebastienDK> hi everybody
[08:51] <AntiUSA> zqwe: no, not at all
[08:51] <s0ulstice__> theo_, sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run
[08:51] <paolob> Hi guys, I'm tring to use a 1440x90 lcd monitor, the asus vw195d, but whatever way I configur xserver-xorg, the 1440x900 image doesn't fill the screen, it only uses some 5/6 in the right side of the screen area. Any hint?
[08:52] <butuh_teman> ..........................
[08:52] <s0ulstice__> make sure you are in the <DIR> that contains the package
[08:52] <ariyako> butuh betul la kamu
[08:52] <butuh_teman> .....
[08:52] <butuh_teman> ..................
[08:52] <zqwe> AntiUSA: nevermind then
[08:52] <butuh_teman> ................
[08:52] <AntiUSA> zqwe: join #revolution
[08:52] <butuh_teman> ................................
[08:52] <butuh_teman> .........................................
[08:52] <ariyako> .ekekekekekke kenapa butuh
[08:52] <s0ulstice__> butuh_teman, STOP
[08:52] <AntiUSA> it's an easy way to PM since its not working
[08:52] <butuh_teman> .................................
[08:52] <erUSUL> !nvidia | theo_
[08:52] <butuh_teman> ................................
[08:52] <ubotu> theo_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:52] <butuh_teman> ..............................
[08:52] <AntiUSA> butuh, stfu
[08:52] <butuh_teman> ......................................
[08:52] <dgjones> !ops | butuh_teman
[08:53] <theo_> ooh, thanks
[08:53]  * theo_ checks that out
[08:53] <ubotu> butuh_teman: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[08:53] <ariyako> any idea about ubuntu 7.10 network > win os
[08:53] <s0ulstice__> theo_, did that work??
[08:54] <tockitj> Q: what tools can be used for voice recognition???
[08:54] <theo_> busy checking out the thing the bot noticed to me
[08:54] <compwiz18> fgrlx is giving me this message in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56711/ Is this a bad thing, or is it something that can be ignored?
[08:54] <ariyako> try to use PyNeighborhood but it say "failed to mount:
[08:54] <theo_> hrmm
[08:54] <s0ulstice__> theo_, I really think you should try the restricted manager if you have nvidia
[08:55] <theo_> I guess I'll try the restricted driver method
[08:55] <s0ulstice__> theo_, definitely a good choice
[08:55]  * theo_ reinstalls the packages x_x
[08:55] <AntiUSA> so back to my question... where can I get wiping tools for Linux?
[08:55] <mallockilx> I have a nightmare in xen
[08:55] <theo_> and here I was hoping to be all l33t and install the package I got off their site instead :p
[08:55] <mallockilx> I can't get a gues to have network interfaces
[08:55] <s0ulstice__> AntiUSA, I am unaware of any atm
[08:56] <s0ulstice__> theo_, well yo can do it... I dont know why it wasn't working.. have you installed packages from source before?
[08:56] <theo_> nope
[08:56] <theo_> I just installed ubuntu last night
[08:56] <theo_> after my windows install bricked itself
[08:57] <miguelito> Can someone help me with something?
[08:57] <dgjones> !register | AntiUSA, I saw you'd asked this a few minutes ago
[08:57] <ubotu> AntiUSA, I saw you'd asked this a few minutes ago: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[08:57] <theo_> I use ubuntu at work - just now overly familiar with admin - more of an end user for it :/
[08:57] <s0ulstice__> theo_, yah that happens to me a lot now
[08:57] <s0ulstice__> !ask | miguelito
[08:57] <ubotu> miguelito: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:57] <miguelito>  i am using windows right now but i have dual boot.  i was was using ubuntu earlier for the first time im months and the internet was working fine.  (i use a wireless network adapter). I was told to up
[08:57] <miguelito> grade because there was an upgrade so i did.  when i restarted, i couldnt connect to the internet.  ive tried every logical combination in the network settings.
[08:58] <s0ulstice__> any preferred IDE's for python??
[08:58] <theo_> does this restricted driver have sli support?
[08:58] <AntiUSA> thanks dgjones
[08:58] <bengee_> Hey is on this server a c++ programming channel?
[08:59] <tockitj> is there specific procedure for compiling kernel under ubuntu ? :-)
[08:59] <miguelito> anyone wanna help me with that?
[08:59] <bengee_> %C8Is there a c++ channel?
[08:59] <rsa_md5> bengee_, ##c^^
[08:59] <rsa_md5> #c++
[09:00] <s0ulstice__> theo_, That is a good question.. off hand I don't know, but it is almost their latest release so I dont know why it wouldn't ..
[09:00] <theo_> k - I'll have to check it out when it's done downloading
[09:00] <bengee_> thx
[09:00] <bengee_> rsa
[09:00] <theo_> 384kbps connection ftl :P
[09:00] <seraph> anyone done a fresh install lately? I want to know how many megs of updates a fresh install needs...
[09:00] <theo_> thanks for the help so far, s0ulstice__ :)
[09:00] <s0ulstice__> miguelito, can you reinstall gutsy? Or maybe check the livecd version of gutsy before you install it to make sure it works out of the box
[09:01]  * theo_ threatens his xbox360 with a linux livecd
[09:01] <theo_> bwuahahaha
[09:01] <dgjones> seraph, I did one on sunday, the updates were a couple of hundred mb, can't remember exactly though
[09:01] <seraph> dgjones: but around that amount?
[09:02] <miguelito> s0ulstice, i downloaded 7.4 and burned it on a cd and the internet used to work for me.  i use a linksys wusb54g wireless adapter.  today i started up ubuntu 7.4 and it told me to update to 7.10 so i did.  can you help me diagnose the problem?
[09:02] <s0ulstice__> theo_, Sure thing.. from what I understand nvidia's driver architecture is is the same for all of their cards, so one driver is good for *almost* all their cards *save their go line maybe? So you can be assured that this driver is almost guaranteed to have sli support. The only concern is that since it is a linux driver, the architecture could be a little different
[09:03] <dgjones> seraph, yes, I'd sat 2-300mb, but I wouldn't like to gurantee it - This install was from an original alternate install cd when it was released, I don't know if the cd iso's are updated when updates are added, if they are it could be less
[09:03] <s0ulstice__> miguelito, I haven't used my wireless card in forever, I don't recall what you can do to try and get it to work... I generally don't like the dist-upgrade process too well yet, I prefer a reinstall if possible..
[09:04] <miguelito> how can i reinstall it without making another CD?
[09:04] <s0ulstice__> !install | miguelito
[09:04] <ubotu> miguelito: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:04] <alexw> i have a slight problem with networking
[09:04] <s0ulstice__> miguelito, although the cd makes it infinitely simpler
[09:04] <alexw> i have auto wlan0 in my interfaces file but at boot time it does not do anything, its only till i run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:05] <alexw> in console when it gathers ips etc
[09:06]  * s0ulstice__ needs to read up more on how networking and system files work
[09:08] <Tronic> My laptop screen backlight is way too dark with Hardy, barely allowing me to read the text on screen.
[09:08] <erUSUL> !hardy | Tronic
[09:08] <ubotu> Tronic: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:08] <neil_d> I have found what looks like a bug with the python gtk.glade module, I generated a glade file with glade 3.4.0, using a 'gnome date' widget, I set it to not display the time widgets.  But when I loaded it with python the time widgets where there.  see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56709/  can someone confirm this please ?
[09:08] <Tronic> Thanks
[09:09] <darksim905> hi, quick question that doesn't exactly have to do with Ubuntu, just unsure where to turn
[09:10] <darksim905> it's more of a windows question really...  trying to up my machine to 64 bit with dual hard drives, SATA...  can anyone reccomend a SATA controler card that will work under windows XP 64 Bit?
[09:11] <karllenz> hi i just did a fresh install of ubuntu and it will not go passed the running local boot scripts screen oon boot up
[09:12] <neil_d> darksim905: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:12] <dgjones> darksim905, you'd be better asking in either #hardware or ##windows for that, they'd probably be better able to help you
[09:12] <erUSUL> darksim905: ##windows #hardware
[09:13] <speeddemon8803> !hardware
[09:13] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[09:14] <harmental> I know that on a regular keyboard, you use the number pad on the right side of the keyboard. Laptops don't have that. How can a person on a laptop type accents like: é ê è and others like so under ubuntu?
[09:14] <karllenz> can anyone help me here
[09:15] <speeddemon8803> !help | karllenz
[09:15] <ubotu> karllenz: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:15] <s0ulstice__> harmental, laptops usually have it they are just associated with the regular keys and you press like the function key or something to enable it
[09:15] <dgjones> harmental, set you keyboard type to be one with dead keys, then when you press the ' or ^ key, the next key you press will be accented if they're normally accented keys
[09:15] <speeddemon8803> oops, wrong one
[09:15]  * speeddemon8803 steps back away from the bot
[09:15] <karllenz> lol
[09:15] <waini> what i have to do for suspend my system from terminal?
[09:15] <waini> (ssh)
[09:15] <karllenz> hi again speeddemon
[09:16] <speeddemon8803> hello there
[09:16] <karllenz> any idea what could be wrong here
[09:16] <harmental> s0
[09:16] <karllenz> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu and it wont go passed the running local boot scripts when i boot up
[09:16] <speeddemon8803> !repeat | karllenz
[09:16] <ubotu> karllenz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:17] <speeddemon8803> We just are trying to figure out whats wrong, dont feel ignored ;)
[09:17] <karllenz> o
[09:17] <karllenz> sry
[09:17] <harmental> s0ulstice__: i have tried every trick i could found.....(by the way ...im using a french kboard)
[09:17] <harmental> dgjones: "dead keys"? whats that?
[09:17] <speeddemon8803> As for myself, i have no clue what that could be...maybe try alternative isntall cd?
[09:17] <karllenz> thats wat i used
[09:18] <speeddemon8803> hmmm
[09:18] <speeddemon8803> What specs does your pc have?
[09:18] <s0ulstice__> harmental, I dont know then heh.. the laptop doesnt have a function key to change it to numberpad mode then huh?
[09:18] <karllenz> i had ubuntu working fine
[09:18] <karllenz> but got a new videocard
[09:18] <karllenz> and it screwed everything
[09:18] <PenguinBoy08> what'd u get?
[09:18] <karllenz> the card is an ati
[09:19] <speeddemon8803> !ati | karllenz
[09:19] <ubotu> karllenz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:19] <karllenz> visiontek x1550
[09:19] <dgjones> harmental, if you go into your keyboard settings, I think System->Preferences->Keyboard, one of the tabs lets you pick the type of keyboard, it has defailt, dvorjak and one with dead keys + a 4th one i can't remember
[09:19] <karllenz> i know about installing drivers
[09:19] <dgjones> harmental, you'll need to restart X for it to work
[09:19] <karllenz> i mean i put the card in and turned on the pc and ubunut wouldnt boot anymore
[09:20] <PenguinBoy08> not even in txt mode?
[09:20] <compwiz18> karllenz: if you had an nvidia card, and you switched to an ati card, you'll have to change the driver
[09:20] <harmental> dgjones...thx...ill try that....
[09:20] <speeddemon8803> Did you try the stuff on the binary drivers howto karllenz?
[09:20] <compwiz18> karllenz: in xorg.conf (sorry)
[09:20] <karllenz> idk how to get to text mode
[09:21] <speeddemon8803> !textmode > speeddemon8803
[09:21] <compwiz18> karllenz: what card did you buy exactly? and how old is it (it being the model of card)?
[09:21] <speeddemon8803> heh, guess that wasnt the right command either, glad i did it on myself first ;)
[09:21] <erUSUL> karllenz: boot in recovery mode then try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[09:21] <karllenz> ok
[09:21] <karllenz> ill try that
[09:21] <speeddemon8803> !recovery > karllenz
[09:22] <compwiz18> karllenz: if your card is too new, ubuntu won't be able to detect it
[09:22] <speeddemon8803> if you dont know how, ubotu just private messaged you with it :)
[09:22] <Sinister> i cant find in the settings where you can set your monotor off after like 30 min of being idle anyone know where its at in kde
[09:22] <karllenz> ok booting into recovery mode
[09:22] <harmental> dgjones: the tabs are "Shotcut Schemes", "Command Shortcuts" and "Modify Keys"....i see no dvorjak
[09:23] <compwiz18> karllenz: what model is your card?
[09:23] <speeddemon8803> karllenz, note that the bot said "alternative install cd"...hopefully thats the one your using?
[09:24] <karllenz> visiontek x1550
[09:24] <karllenz> i used the alt cd yes
[09:24] <VSpike> should ffmpeg be able to read wma files?
[09:24] <VSpike> I can play them with amarok so I must have some wma codecs installed
[09:24] <speeddemon8803> Good deal karllenz :)
[09:25] <karllenz> ok i ran the command
[09:25] <karllenz> dpkg
[09:25] <dgjones> harmental, have a look at this, maybe it'll explain it a bit clearer than I did, I'm not on ubuntu at the minute so I can't talk you through it http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/TipsAndTricks#How_to_add_keyboard_layouts_for_other_languages - About 2/3rds of the way down is a heading " How to type extended characters"
[09:25] <karllenz> everything says o
[09:25] <karllenz> ok
[09:26] <harmental> dgjones: thx!!
[09:26] <karllenz> now im restarting
[09:27] <compwiz18> karllenz: it would appear your card is old enough to be supported by the drivers in Ubuntu
[09:27] <karllenz> i should not have to rescue the system its a fresh install
[09:28] <karllenz> lets see if i put my old nvidia card in and see if it boot
[09:28] <karllenz> i bet it will
[09:28] <compwiz18> karllenz: if Ubuntu is set to use the ATI driver, you won't get any love from that nvidia card :)
[09:29] <dgjones> harmental, on the keyboard screen, you should have a tab called "Layouts" that should let you change the keyboard layout
[09:29] <neil_d> I have found what looks like a bug with the python gtk.glade module, I generated a glade file with glade 3.4.0, using a 'gnome date' widget, I set it to not display the time widgets.  But when I loaded it with python the time widgets where there.  see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56709/  can someone confirm this please ?
[09:29] <karllenz> idk what to do then i get nothing from ati after a frsh install using the alt cd
[09:29] <compwiz18> karllenz: did your run the dpkg-reconfigure command listed above?
[09:29] <harmental> dgjones: i think i found it....however...Shouldnt i choose Layout : "France" fr....im using a french keyboard
[09:30] <s0ulstice__> karllenz, you know you want to ditch the ati for nvidia....
[09:30] <karllenz> es i did
[09:30] <dgjones> harmental, i would guess yes, but I'm not certain, I only ever use a uk style keyboard
[09:30] <compwiz18> karllenz: what video driver did you choose?
[09:31] <karllenz> i didnt chose any driver
[09:31] <karllenz> yet
[09:31] <karllenz> i never booted into the actualy desktop
[09:31] <karllenz> ok nvidia install still same problem
[09:31] <karllenz> ill try reinstalling
[09:31] <pusoicafe> guys i got problem: i hav a dual boot OS xp and ubuntu 7.10 but after i reinstalled xp it wont boot to xp is this the problem of boot loader of ubuntu?
[09:32] <karllenz> is it possible to use both cards with ubuntu at the same time
[09:32] <compwiz18> pusoicafe: is GRUB still installed?
[09:32] <karllenz> cuz i have my tv connected using the ati card
[09:32] <harmental> dgjones: the deadkey is in Layout Variant? i have only have a "sundeadkey" option...
[09:32] <compwiz18> karllenz: I know nothing about graphics cards, but can you install both of them at the same time?
[09:33] <pusoicafe> compwiz18: ya but after the reinstallation of xp it wont boot to xp or i cannot find to choose to boot to xp
[09:33] <karllenz> ok loading live cd with nvida card installed and main monitor running from it
[09:34] <dgjones> harmental, when i was selecting, i just had "Internatinal with dead keys", I'm not sure what to suggest, maybe its because you're using a french keyboard thats bringing different options up
[09:34] <harmental> arrghhh
[09:34] <s0ulstice__> karllenz, Im not positive, but I highly doubt you can use them both at the same time, the only possibility i can think of is having them installed at the same time, but not in use, and even that sounds questionable to me... even SLI requires very strict parameters to work properly
[09:34] <compwiz18> pusoicafe: you'll probably want to reinstall grub, although that may not help
[09:34] <compwiz18> !grub | pusoicafe
[09:34] <ubotu> pusoicafe: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:34] <karllenz> wtf live cd boots with the nvidia card
[09:35] <harmental> dgjones: you saw that under "Keyboard Model"?
[09:35] <s0ulstice__> karllenz, see nvidia = good ati = bad
[09:35] <pusoicafe> ubotu: gonna chek now
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gonna chek now - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <compwiz18> pusoicafe: ubotu is the bot :)
[09:35] <s0ulstice__> pusoicafe, I think it is just a bootloader error
[09:35] <s0ulstice__> pusoicafe, what are the symptoms again
[09:35] <karllenz> stiil the only way i can connect my tv is through a port on my ati card
[09:35] <compwiz18> s0ulstice__: thats not entirely true, my ati card works fine
[09:36] <dgjones> harmental, i can't remember which it was under, once the keyboard settings screen was up, I only had a couple of tabs & options to chose from
[09:36] <VSpike> how can i transcode wma to ogg?
[09:36] <s0ulstice__> compwiz18, I know, but I am highly partial to nvidia because of my horrible luck with ati cards
[09:36] <Tyczek> I have question about Fglrx... The XV seems not work to me. The fullscreen doesn't scale movie at all and there are pixels
[09:36] <VSpike> And should k3b support wma?
[09:36] <karllenz> what i will try tho is reinstalling now using the nvidia card
[09:37] <karllenz> but still keeping the ati card installed on the pc
[09:37] <s0ulstice__> compwiz18, not to mention nvidia gave us support long before ati did, before compiz wasn't able to work with ati
[09:37] <pusoicafe> soulstice_: i cannot see the wondows xp option in boot up
[09:37] <karllenz> then messing around with it once the system is installed
[09:37] <s0ulstice__> pusoicafe, what did you install first?
[09:37] <s0ulstice__> pusoicafe, did you install xp then ubuntu?
[09:38] <compwiz18> s0ulstice__: I don't use compiz, so I guess that doesn't really apply to me, but for most intents, ati cards are supported fine (and compiz works now :)
[09:38] <pusoicafe> soulstice_: i did the dual boot xp first then ubuntu 7.10 then when everything is finished i go to xp and then wham i hav hal dll errors or something so i reinstalled xp then i got no xp to choose after reinstalling
[09:39] <s0ulstice__> compwiz18, very true .. I have been damaged mostly by the all-in-wonder series cards years ago.. windows incompatibilities galore with those cards
[09:40] <compwiz18> s0ulstice__: I've only used linux for ~3 years, so I have no idea about the situation before then
[09:40] <s0ulstice__> pusoicafe, but you are able to boot to linux though correct?
[09:40] <pusoicafe> soulstice_: ya but not to xp it hides maybe
[09:41] <s0ulstice__> compwiz18, Right, well Im talking about windows & ati
[09:41] <s0ulstice__> pusoicafe, Ok, you just have to tell grub to update (which unfortunately means reinstalling it)
[09:41] <dik> loo
[09:42] <pusoicafe> soulstice_: do we hav guide for that reinstallation of grub?
[09:42] <compwiz18> !grub | pusoicafe
[09:42] <ubotu> pusoicafe: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:42] <karllenz> do i have to have a swap partiotion for linux
[09:42] <s0ulstice__> pusoicafe, Because when you reinstalled windows, the information changed that grub had.. although I am surprised this didn't cause a grub boot error
[09:42] <compwiz18> karllenz: how much ram do you have?
[09:42] <dik> hello does anyone know how to install a ai radeon hd 2900 xt on ubuntu as im stuck
[09:42] <karllenz> 2gigs
[09:43] <karllenz> sry 1gig
[09:43] <compwiz18> karllenz: you want a swap partition then
[09:43] <pusoicafe> soulstice_: k be back later
[09:43] <s0ulstice__> karllenz, Im not sure if you MUST have it, but it is a good idea.. You can actually use thumb drives as a swap drive apparently
[09:43] <karllenz> ok well how do i install ubuntu now leaving room and the ability to install windows next to dual boot
[09:44] <s0ulstice__> karllenz, I highly recommend installing windows first and making your partitions before you do that
[09:44] <compwiz18> karllenz: you really should install windows first, makes it a lot easier
[09:44] <s0ulstice__> karllenz, that is assuming you still want windows ;-p
[09:45] <karllenz> well i want my ati card to work no matter wat
[09:45] <karllenz> so i must use it
[09:45] <cew2_imoet> rrt5t
[09:46] <cew2_imoet> ??
[09:47] <fabio> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/56720/
[09:53] <bulent> slm ubuntu kullanan kimse varmı
[09:54] <zyx386> Aciid:>> hi
[09:54] <bulent> hi
[09:54] <zyx386> thanx bulent
[09:54] <bulent> whre u from zyx,
[09:55] <zyx386> what is recomended pc+laptope for ubuntu without Dell?
[09:55] <zyx386> Greenland
[09:55] <bulent> my laptop is  hp dv6385eu
[09:56] <zyx386> bulent:>> iam not HP hardware Fens
[09:58] <bulent> ok. what i must do now..
[10:00] <bulent> bana yardım edebilecek  kimse varmı
[10:00] <DaveyJ> hello
[10:00] <zyx386> bulent: no turkish plz
[10:00] <velibor> halo
[10:00] <DaveyJ> every so often my audio device doesn't respond (as it isn't right now) -- is there a way to reload the device or module or whatever it is without restarting?
[10:01] <bulent> ok zyx386 sorry
[10:01] <dgjones> !tr | bulent
[10:01] <ubotu> bulent: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[10:01] <Frogzoo> DaveyJ: mebbe sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:02] <knappen_> Hi ppl, is there anyway i can use vpn connection and wireless for a regular connection?
[10:02] <DaveyJ> thank you!
[10:03] <bulent> once opening pc im taking an error: pci bug #81  what is this and what i must do
[10:07] <Aciid> zyx386: wut?
[10:07] <zyx386> nothing sorry Aciid
[10:07] <Aciid> k
[10:07] <bulent> ubotu : ubutu-tr off durumunda
[10:08] <rod> hey guys ... I have some .m3u files which open by default with totem... How can I change this to muine?  Searched everywhere, even preferred apps in the gnome menu is set to muine for multimedia
[10:08] <erUSUL> rod: right click on the file properties open with
[10:09] <rod> thanks erUSUL  ... Muine is indeed in the menu... But this only works once.... not for all m3u files
[10:10] <Alberto84> ola peña
[10:11] <rod> aaahh wait a sec erUSUL  :)
[10:11] <anupam> hi
[10:11] <rod> got it thanks,
[10:11] <Fokez> hey, pretty please, I need little help
[10:11] <Fokez>  . . . If English were spoken all over Europe / If English was spoken all over Europe  ...which one is correct please ?
[10:12] <Fokez> because : If I were you...not If I was you             I don't know why
[10:12] <Silencerr> Fokez, I believe it's 'If English was spoken' oO
[10:13] <Fokez> Silencerr: so that, If I were you is an exception
[10:14] <Silencerr> something like that Fokez :)
[10:16] <Silencerr> Fokez, read my whisper, seems it's 'were' :)
[10:20] <randompolygamy> Anyone know of a Good IDE (Visual development) for making websites?
[10:21] <neko> ctrl space  autocompletion  shortcut crash the query browser that come with the ubuntu package ! do you know if the tar.gz package from the mysql website is ok ?
[10:21] <loa> hello, how i can record sound, wich plaing by mplayer
[10:21] <neko> randompolygamy
[10:21] <loa> I want listen and record
[10:21] <randompolygamy> neko,
[10:21] <neko> try eclipse with the php addon
[10:21] <neko> or aptana (that's the one i use)
[10:22] <randompolygamy> thats what i just found, how is eclipse's trial and how hard are they to install?
[10:22] <neko> http://aptana.com/
[10:22] <neko> aptana works right out of the bow
[10:22] <neko> box
[10:22] <neko> you just have to install the php plugins if you want use php
[10:22] <randompolygamy> as in a live cd?
[10:23] <randompolygamy> neko, Aptana Freeware?
[10:23] <neko> there is part that are commercial
[10:24] <randompolygamy> or well opensource
[10:24] <neko> but the basics are opensource
[10:24] <neko> (or just free, not remember)
[10:25] <randompolygamy> neko, you familiar with development and have a moment?
[10:26] <neko> i have a little time as i am @ work right now
[10:26] <neko> and well i do dev as a job
[10:26] <runemaste> :( i still cant get dvds working
[10:26] <randompolygamy> may i pm you quickly?
[10:26] <neko> do it
[10:27] <jianfei> novell client (deb) for gutsy?? need one for work, any ideas?
[10:30] <rilo> Soo, how can I enter extended ASCII given default keyboard settings for a US 105-key generic keyboard? It's actually a laptop keyboard and I would have to use Fn to simulate the keypad
[10:31] <vircuser> Hi, are there any benchmark programs for ubuntu like Sisoft Sandra or 3Dmark?
[10:33] <compengi> how to format a usb disk to fat32 without using gparted
[10:34] <erUSUL> compengi: mkfs.vfat
[10:34] <vircuser> no benchmark progs for ubuntu?
[10:34] <Hoopoe> driver issues with hp vs15
[10:35]  * w0t brb
[10:37] <FluxD> how do u install gd2 support in ubuntu? what package do i install?
[10:37] <FluxD> !gd2
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <vircuser> I'd like to build a software raid5 with encryption and benchmark it; i.e. see how much performance is lost through encryption and see if the cpu or anything else is the bottleneck
[10:38] <vircuser> i'm sure people did this before me, but i can't find any benchmakrs on the net :(
[10:38] <dade> giorno
[10:38] <HinHin> hmm... i saw some specialised cards that handle encrpytion purposes
[10:39] <HinHin> that might help the load on the system
[10:39] <vircuser> i'd like to have it all insoftware, so the raid is portable
[10:39] <HinHin> XD... on the other hand they might be expensive
[10:39] <vircuser> and i'm thinking with mult-core cpus on the rise the system should be able to handle it
[10:40] <vircuser> just not sure - so i'd like some benchmarks ;)
[10:40] <compengi> erUSUL, could you give me a further look on how to use this command?
[10:40] <Trashlord> Hi, can anyone give me a page where I can view all of the Ubuntu bash commands please?
[10:40] <amenado> Trashlord ready?
[10:40] <Trashlord> Yes
[10:40] <amenado> Trashlord-> press tab key twice in your terminal
[10:41] <Trashlord> Ah, got it, thanks
[10:42] <Aciid> oh wth whats the command for displayin those commands
[10:42] <Aciid> I want to grep tube it
[10:44] <supershort> how do i delete a whole directory with sudo
[10:45] <ichbinesderelch> sudo rm -R directory
[10:45] <ichbinesderelch> -R for recursive
[10:45] <FluxD> how do u install gd2 support in ubuntu? what package do i install?
[10:46] <ichbinesderelch> maybe try apt-cache search gd2
[10:49] <ichbinesderelch> package called libgd2 :D
[10:49] <FluxD> ichbinesderelch, thx it wasnt working coz I had to reboot apache :/
[10:50] <ichbinesderelch> ah kk
[10:51] <Trashlord> one more question, I have 2 harddrives on this computer. 1 of them has ubuntu, the other one is just for music storing. everytime I boot, I have to mount the other drive, is it possible to auto-mount it, or to leave it permanently mounted?
[10:52] <ichbinesderelch> trahslord: you have to edit /etc/fstab
[10:52] <ichbinesderelch> *trashlord
[10:52] <supershort> when i edit a http.conf file
[10:53] <supershort> aka apache
[10:53] <supershort> how do i save
[10:53] <supershort> says access denied
[10:53] <AliTarihi> supershort:
[10:53] <bengee_> where is it possible to get help to the geany editor/ide ?
[10:53] <FluxD> supershort, sudo gedit filename
[10:53] <ichbinesderelch> trashlord: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/fstab?highlight=%28fstab%29
[10:54] <Trashlord> thanks
[10:55] <bengee_> need help concerning the compilation of my prog iam newb to c++
[10:55] <Frogzoo> bengee_: try ##c
[10:55] <Gecko> hey there. I'm having a lot of trouble using an external display on my docking station to my ibm t41 laptop. If I boot it with the laptop lid closed, gdm starts up in 1680x1050, as it is supposed to do, but everything is shown in a 1024x768 part of my screen. I can move my cursor to the other parts of the screen, but it doesn't use it. Gnome is strange too. It also has it's pannels around a 1024x768 area of my screen, while I can move the lower bar
[10:56] <nios> hey how can i disable the beep sounds ?
[10:56] <ichbinesderelch> nios: disable sound notifications somewhere in gnome menu? ;)
[10:56] <nios> ah i found it
[10:57] <nios> ye sorry
[10:58] <adrien> I have a problem with an installation scripts that needs CURSES
[10:58] <s_unix> xset -b
[10:58] <adrien> it seems that CURSES cannot be initilaized (xubuntu 7.10) any idea?
[10:59] <s_unix> hello
[10:59] <adrien> hi
[10:59] <wers> in my startup programs, one app has no name or description. the code happens to be /usr/bin/cod. do you know what app it is? should I disable it?
[10:59] <vircuser> Anyone know how to change the $ to a Euro sign for currency in the KDE control panel?
[10:59] <adrien> can you see it as a text file ?
[11:00] <s_unix> nios: xset -b
[11:00] <Symmetria> vircuser: yeah, take the number next to the dollar sign and divide  it by a couple of times, it will happen automatically :p
[11:00] <Symmetria> (just kidding)
[11:01] <vircuser> you do know that 1 Euro ~ 1.5 USD right ;)
[11:01] <bashca> hi there  how run zte AC8700 modem on ubuntu ???
[11:02] <bob_1904> has ubuntu not brought up a 'proprietary' driver dialogue?
[11:02] <vircuser> so that's why I'd prefer the Euro sign next to my income figure - just don't know how to type it :P
[11:03]  * syc_ off
[11:04] <ncho> ???
[11:04] <bashca> please  any 1 can help
[11:04] <adrien> ask
[11:04] <ncho> 大家好吖
[11:04] <vircuser> never heard of that modem
[11:04] <adrien> me neither, let me check the web
[11:05] <bob_1904> for the euro sign, just install msttcorefonts, then head to insert > special charracter
[11:05] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of the file /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/scripts/kconfig/mconf.c?~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~
[11:05] <ncho> 有没有人説中文
[11:05] <ncho> 你不是好情人！
[11:05] <bob_1904> (on OpenOffice.org)
[11:05] <bashca> adrien, i need to use zte ac8700 mdsl usb modem with ubuntu ??
[11:06] <bashca> !???
[11:06] <bascule> bullgard4: it's language stuff
[11:06] <vircuser> hmm, bu there is no "Insert" menu item in the KDE control module
[11:07] <bascule> vircuser: in kcharselect
[11:07] <bullgard4> bascule: Can you elaborate.
[11:07] <adrien> what does the command  'dmesg' tells you when the modem is plugged in ?
[11:07] <bob_1904> (I'm assuming you're using OpenOffice.org word processor)
[11:07] <adrien> (in the terminal)
[11:07] <bashca> adrien, i got error 71
[11:08] <bashca> but lsusb Bus 001 Device 021: ID 05c6:6000 Qualcomm, Inc.
[11:08] <bascule> bullgard4: actually I misread, I have no idea, looks like a back-up though
[11:08] <bullgard4> hm
[11:08] <adrien> i see there are no drivers for this modem...
[11:08] <bashca> adrien, [ 8182.360000] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[11:08] <bascule> bullgard4: open it ...
[11:08] <vircuser> so there is no "easy" way to type the euro character anywhere (be it terminal, config app etc.)?
[11:09] <lvlaTr1X> hello, im looking to change my os to ubuntu but i have some concern over application installation
[11:09] <lvlaTr1X> will my games which work for window, work on ubuntu?
[11:09] <bashca> adrien, ??
[11:09] <lvlaTr1X> eg. COD4 , crysis?
[11:09] <adrien> yes?
[11:09] <adrien> bashca?
[11:09] <lvlaTr1X> is it even compatible to begin with?
[11:09] <bullgard4> lvlaTr1X: As a rule they will not.
[11:09] <lapisdecor> vir, Alt Gr + E
[11:09] <vircuser> Cause I need a way to do this and then need to explain it to computer laymen with just a basic Ubuntu installation from the disk
[11:10] <dgjones> !wow | lvlaTr1X, some games will work under wine, there might be some with native linux installers,
[11:10] <ubotu> lvlaTr1X, some games will work under wine, there might be some with native linux installers,: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:10] <AliTarihi> Hi! Does anyone know about the problem of Nvidia Driver and Hibernate/Suspend?
[11:10] <lvlaTr1X> bullgard4: oh.. hmm...
[11:10] <vircuser> i think there is a unreal tournament 2k3 version for linux
[11:10] <praveenm_> hi all, how to make a new ext3 partition rw?
[11:10] <dgjones> !wine | lvlaTr1X, you could have a look at the wine application database
[11:10] <ubotu> lvlaTr1X, you could have a look at the wine application database: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[11:11] <lvlaTr1X> oh.. hmm.. but what about other application for eg. msn messenger?
[11:11] <bashca> adrien, how can resolve driver matter ??
[11:11] <lapisdecor> lvlaTr1X: If someone offered you a Mac, would you be worried about games? :D
[11:11] <lvlaTr1X> lapisdecor: YES.. LOL
[11:12] <adrien> bashca I am looking at an interesting page, I just cant find the info wait
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> i'm in the game industry, so ya, my life mostly revolve about game
[11:12] <lapisdecor> To play games I bought a Wii
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> i have a wii, xbox360 and ps3
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> :X
[11:12] <vircuser> Matrix, there are ubuntu programs for programs like messengers
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> not trying to boast or any sort
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> hmm
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> cool..
[11:12] <bashca> ok
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> becuz now im actually trying to build up a comp
[11:12] <vircuser> but MSN messenger might work with wine
[11:12] <lvlaTr1X> still deciding which OS to go with
[11:12] <nicc> Hey guys. I've got a problem, hopefully someone can help. I've got 4GB RAM on my laptop, but Ubuntu only sees 3GB. I've read up on it, and switched to the server kernel which has PAE enabled, and it sees all 4GB now. Problem is that server kernel has no support for NVIDIA, and Im guessing I'll hit other compatibility problems later, so I want to recompile a vanilla kernel with PAE enabled. My question: where can I get specific source for cur
[11:13] <vircuser> try to get a cheap harddisk, replace it and just test ubuntu
[11:13] <bascule> kernel.org
[11:13] <lapisdecor> lvlaTr1X: anyway you have lots of games (free games) in linux, so why not try some? they are great
[11:13] <vircuser> you can actually test many things witout installing anything
[11:13] <vircuser> just boot from the CD
[11:13] <lapisdecor> and they are free
[11:14] <vircuser> the big game companies make games mostly for windows though..
[11:14] <vircuser> for those you need to hope that wine can handle it
[11:14] <bob_1904> you could use cedega - but will actually cost you money
[11:14] <wild_oscar> could anyone indicate me if there is a repository with the latest Openoffice version?
[11:15] <vircuser> many people do a double boot: use windows for games and ubuntu for "serious stuff" ;)
[11:15] <adrien> bashca, check this :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665332
[11:15] <adrien> it might help you
[11:15] <bob_1904> cedega is based on the wine engine but is enhanced for 3D gaming - but dual booting makes more sense
[11:16] <bashca> adrien, thanks i will
[11:17] <adrien> bashca , the interesting part is in the last POST
[11:17] <vircuser> I'd like to introduce Ubuntu to some people in europe - but if they ask "..and how do I type the Euro character?" i need a simple explanation, otherwise they might turn into "OS too complicated for me" mode ;)
[11:18] <AliTarihi> Well... Does anyone know about the problem of Nvidia Driver and Hibernate/Suspend?
[11:18] <adrien> hopefully you manage, the howto is a bit lousy for beginners  though
[11:19] <bashca> ok
[11:19] <vircuser> anyone ever tried to use MSIE in Ubuntu? It seems some pages require it (ActiveX, JScript et al)
[11:20] <wild_oscar> is there a repository for gutsy for Openoffice 2.3.1?
[11:20] <wild_oscar> or the latest version of openoffice
[11:20] <kaushal> hi
[11:21] <kaushal> I am installing apache2-src through synaptic
[11:21] <dgjones> !ies4linux | vircuser
[11:21] <ubotu> vircuser: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[11:21] <tdawgedogg> hey guys im new to ubuntu or linux all together....are the respitories updated with all of the newest updates for programs or does it take a while sometimes?
[11:21] <bob_1904> there is a default one already. What you can do is go to the OpenOffice website and download+extract a tarball
[11:22] <kaushal> whats the location of apache2-src in ubuntu 7.04
[11:22] <ichbinesderelch> takes some time tdawgedogg
[11:22] <tdawgedogg> really like how long?
[11:22] <bob_1904> It's the most recent stable and supported editions you get by default - you have to enable them in your settings
[11:22] <kaushal> is it /usr/share/doc/apache2-src
[11:22] <ichbinesderelch> time it needs to make packages and all
[11:22] <ichbinesderelch> but you should go with farely new packages
[11:22] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, the repositories for each version are updated for security/bug fixes, but not just for the latest versions, they get added to the 6 monthly version upgrades
[11:23] <bob_1904> For those of you who are interested in more proprietary software, Medibuntu is a great place to go
[11:25] <vircuser> dawg, any program (the stable version of it) will get updated once the developers update it
[11:25] <vircuser> so sometimes you'll find update notifications several days in a row
[11:25] <wild_oscar> I found Openoffice 2.3.1 here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openoffice.org-base
[11:25] <tdawgedogg> ok woot i dont care about beta versions...i want all the stable versions of stuff
[11:26] <wild_oscar> can I somehow add that directory to my package management and update it?
[11:26] <vircuser> can't you get openoffice trough the normal repositories?
[11:26] <vircuser> i think i got it winth apt-get
[11:26] <tdawgedogg> so u know at the top right where it shows system updates...every program I have in ubuntu is updated via system updates
[11:26] <tdawgedogg> and it will always check my programs or how does that work
[11:26] <vircuser> yes, every prog you have installed
[11:26] <tdawgedogg> thats awesome
[11:27] <vircuser> yea ;)
[11:27] <bob_1904> (assuming you've installed it via the 'add/remove apps' panel
[11:27] <bob_1904> or by sudo apt-get install (app)
[11:27] <tdawgedogg> like in windows I dont even know when programs have updates...its nice having all programs and updates in one place
[11:27] <wild_oscar> vircuser: not version 2.3.1
[11:27] <bob_1904> yep
[11:27] <N4cht> tdawgedogg, not only that.. but when a new version of ubuntu is available, you can use the update manager to upgrade your entire system to the new version.
[11:27] <vircuser> wild, ah ok..
[11:27] <tdawgedogg> ive just been downloading using that synaptic package manger is that the right way?
[11:28] <bob_1904> sudo apt-get upgrade tends to do the job
[11:28] <Trashlord> tdawgedogg, I wouldn't say "right way", I'd call it the "preferred way"
[11:28] <elektronik123> witam
[11:28] <vircuser> well, i have my windows updates set, so they tell me which updates get installed
[11:29] <bob_1904> or sudo apt-get updates then sudo apt-get install updates
[11:29] <elektronik123> czy to oficjalny kanal pomocy ubuntu ?
[11:29] <vircuser> so for me it's like in Ubuntu (for the security fixes)
[11:29] <N4cht> tdawgedogg, that's the best way to install new packages, yes.   as for upgrading already installed packages, it's best to let the update managed do the trick if you're a more GUI heavy user, otherwise apt-get upgrade works the same way.
[11:29] <Trashlord> It depends how you like it, I personally use either apt-get, or download packages and then sudo dpkg -i
[11:29] <bulbulred> Hi, i have just installed a zabbix server, agent and frontend. Installaion worked fine. But my host (zabbix server itself) is monitored but the availability is UNKNOWN... my server log is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56731/ and my agent log is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56732/
[11:29] <elektronik123> nie moge wlaczyc terminalu
[11:29] <dgjones> !pl | elektronik123
[11:29] <ubotu> elektronik123: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:29] <radone> please haw can I install ubuntu on HDD using command line?
[11:30] <dgjones> !alternate | radone
[11:30] <ubotu> radone: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[11:30] <elektronik123> i can-t join to #ubuntu-pl
[11:30] <N4cht> radone, download a copy of the non-graphical ubuntu installer iso (known as alternate installer)
[11:30] <vircuser> i usually use "apt-get install xxxx"
[11:30] <vircuser> automitically install xxxx
[11:30] <vircuser> sometimes I'm not even sure about the name of xxxx
[11:31] <elektronik123> i can`t join to #ubuntu-pl
[11:31] <vircuser> and it will give me suggestions sometimes
[11:31] <dgjones> elektronik123, type "join #ubuntu-pl" without the "'s, that should take you to #ubuntu-pl
[11:31] <dgjones> elektronik123, sorry "/join #ubuntu-pl"
[11:31] <bulbulred> anybode knows something about zabbix? please?
[11:32] <elektronik123> i am blocked
[11:32] <Trashlord> how do I convert a drive's file system? I have a drive which is NTFS, and I want to convert it to linux format, how do I do that?
[11:32] <tdawgedogg> hey in this damn xchat irc program how do i get it to not show when ppl leave and come into the room
[11:32] <Frogzoo> Trashlord: you can't - you'll need to backup your data & reformat as ext3
[11:32] <tdawgedogg> its anoying
[11:32] <boubbin> how to know if "Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 Graphics" is compatible with linux (ubuntu) ?
[11:32] <radone> dgjones: sorry I was not exact - I need ubuntu desktop, however graphics does not work from live distro. I am not sure if I understand well that alterante is only textual version of ubuntu
[11:33] <AppleHein> if I have shell only ubuntu. which command do I need to install gnome with apt-get fully? internet connection is established
[11:33] <elektronik123> i really con`t join on this channel
[11:33] <Trashlord> oh
[11:33] <ichbinesderelch> tdawgedogg: just right click on the channel name on the left and disable join messages
[11:33] <compwiz18> elektronik123: we can't help you here, but you can try #ubuntu-ops or something
[11:33] <Trashlord> I can do that easily then, thanks Frogzoo
[11:33] <dgjones> radone, the alternate cd installs a full graphical version, it just uses the command line to install
[11:33] <radone> dgjones: tahnks
[11:34] <vircuser> boubbin, if you have it already, just pop in the CD to test it
[11:34] <bulbulred> zabbix knowledge anyone (sorry for nagging about it)
[11:34] <vircuser> many intel chipsets are only supported in 2D though
[11:34] <crem0r> join #debian
[11:34] <wers> what does user folders update do? :D
[11:34] <vircuser> I had to set a line in a config file to get 3D effects on my notebook
[11:34] <AppleHein> if I have shell only ubuntu. which command do I need to install gnome with apt-get fully? internet connection is established
[11:34] <nios> i wonder why i cant play mp3s with xmms over my samba share, does anyone know why?
[11:34] <ichbinesderelch> apt-get install gnome? :P
[11:35] <compwiz18> AppleHein: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:35] <AppleHein> thanks compwiz
[11:35] <vircuser> yea, don't know why they don't just call it gnome :(
[11:35] <tdawgedogg> it doesnt give me that option when i right click on #ubantu...im using xchat gnome i think
[11:35] <dakira> hey.. how can i generate a file with dummy (or random) data? i.e. something like reading exactly 100MB from /dev/random into a file..
[11:35] <compwiz18> ubuntu-desktop contains more then just gnome
[11:35] <vircuser> but you can at least "apt-get install kde" ;)
[11:36] <white_eagle> if anyone in here needs direct rendering with ati
[11:36] <bob_1904> you could just install 'gnome-desktop', but then you'd just get the generic gnome desktop - you'd miss the ubuntu parts (as compwiz18 said)
[11:36] <white_eagle> see this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589637
[11:36] <white_eagle> ;)
[11:36] <bob_1904> yes?
[11:36] <compwiz18> dakira: use dd if=/dev/urandom of=filename bs=10 count=10000 or something similar (I have no idea how much data you'll get with the command, my guess would be about 100kb)
[11:36] <bob_1904> thanks!
[11:37] <white_eagle> bob_1904, to me?
[11:37] <white_eagle> or...
[11:37] <vircuser> yea for kde you'd need to "apt-get install kubuntu" i think to get the ubuntu features
[11:37] <irony9999>  ciao a tutti e ben ritrovati
[11:37] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, you might be better with xchat, rather than xchat-gnome, they're slightly different versions, xchat seems to have more options
[11:37] <dakira> compwiz18.. great, thx.. that was what i was looking for!
[11:37] <irony9999> salve a tutti.....
[11:37] <bob_1904> yeah, that was to you white_eagle!
[11:37] <irony9999> e' italiano questo irc??
[11:37] <white_eagle> !it
[11:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:38] <compwiz18> dakira: no problem, but you'll have to figure out how to get 100mb :D
[11:38] <tdawgedogg> dgjones:ok thanks....how do I uninstall this and get normal xchat?
[11:38] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: open the package manager and find "xchat" and remove "xchat-gnome"
[11:38] <white_eagle> bob_1904, you'll have to erase the fglrx drivers first
[11:38] <tdawgedogg> dgjones I didnt see a normal xchat package
[11:38] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:39] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: it's not in the normal repos, its in universe or something
[11:39] <rilo> Soo, how can I enter extended ASCII given default keyboard settings for a US 105-key generic keyboard? It's actually a laptop keyboard and I would have to use Fn to simulate the keypad
[11:39] <bob_1904> ok that's fine - I hadn't installed any ATI drivers as yet
[11:39] <tdawgedogg> um gutsy? lol i dunno...I just downloaded it and installed it today
[11:39] <compwiz18> !universe | tdawgedogg
[11:39] <ubotu> tdawgedogg: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[11:40] <tdawgedogg> ok thanks
[11:40] <compwiz18> you'll get a lot more packages with universe enabled
[11:40] <feysalus> Hi
[11:40] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, it should be there then, as compwiz18 suggests make sure you're universe repo is enabled and you'd updated after enabling it, then seach again
[11:40] <tdawgedogg> so If im already downloading something using the synaptic package manager I have to wait until its done before I can do anything else
[11:41] <compwiz18> yeah, xchat is in the networking section of universe
[11:41] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, best to wait till its finished, you'd probably get an error message saying that files are in use or locked
[11:41] <feysalus> I've been reading through some sites, and I've seen some linux user's systems hacked and their bash shell histories, files, db's etc. accessible to the intruder - so how much more secure is linux than windows?
[11:41] <compwiz18> and tdawgedogg, yes, you have to wait :(
[11:41] <compwiz18> feysalus: are you running any network services?
[11:42] <feysalus> nope
[11:42] <tdawgedogg> OK THANKS GUYZ...this room is very helpful!
[11:42] <compwiz18> feysalus: then far more secure then windows :)
[11:42] <white_eagle> feysalus: linux is far more secure than windows
[11:42] <vircuser> feysal - it more secure, but the security of every system depends hugely on the users of that system
[11:42] <compwiz18> if you start running ssh/telnet/apache/php/etc you can start getting issues, but again, it all depends on the configuration of said applications
[11:42] <white_eagle> (didn't I read that somewhere?) :D
[11:42] <vircuser> if they have weak password - no security can protect them
[11:42] <feysalus> oh ok
[11:43] <tdawgedogg> so what is a better media player application for encoder and decoder stuff as far as playing HD mkv files and stuff....vlc or mplayer?
[11:43] <Eckos> i get this: uclibc-toolchain: Depends: g++-4.1 (= 4.1.2-12ubuntu1) but 4.1.2-16ubuntu2 is to be installed
[11:43] <bob_1904> mplayer - head to Medibuntu to get sundry extra codecs and get a repository for the latest version!
[11:44] <bob_1904> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[11:46] <vircuser> what bittorrent software are you guys using for ubuntu?
[11:47] <bashca> how can install new kernel  please
[11:47] <Slart> vircuser: azureus
[11:47] <vircuser> azureus 3?
[11:47] <dakira> vircuser: azureus is the only one that really works
[11:47] <Slart> bashca: first.. why do you want to install a new kernel?
[11:47] <vircuser> i think bittyrant is based off Azureus 2.5
[11:47] <Slart> dakira: naahh... there's deluge, ktorrent, rtorrent etc
[11:47] <dakira> vircuser: i myself use utorrent with wine
[11:47] <vircuser> Azureus 3 isn't GPL afaik
[11:47] <bashca> Slart, i can't  use  zte AC8700 mdsl usb  modem
[11:48] <dakira> Slart: ktorrent and rtorrent are nice.. but i found lots of bugs in deluge which make it unusable.. at least for me
[11:48] <vircuser> so which is the "best" ;)
[11:48]  * bashca using Gusty with kernel  2.6.22-14-generic
[11:48] <Slart> !best
[11:48] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[11:48] <vircuser> in terms of features
[11:48] <Slart> vircuser: azureus is hard to beat when it comes to features.. but it's also a beast to run..
[11:49] <vircuser> i've been using Azureus on windows (my system can handle the bloat)
[11:49] <Slart> bashca: and you can't use some kind of module? you need a new kernel for that to work?
[11:49] <vircuser> so Azureus v3 right now?
[11:49] <Slart> I run 3.something.. works nicely for me
[11:49] <bengee_> can anyone tell me how to set the directory of g++ (for geany)?
[11:50] <bashca> Slart, can you help me to add module for using  mdsl usb modem
[11:50] <vircuser> I tried bittyrant because I don't like the non-GPLishness of the new Azureus
[11:50] <SpacePilot> Been trying to find what driver I should use for a X1900XTX, but I can't find a clear answer?
[11:51] <Slart> bashca: probably not.. I'm not very good with kernels.. I just wanted to check if you really needed a new kernel... search the forums.. or the wiki.. I'm pretty sure there are howto's out there
[11:52] <bashca> Slart, i did  but  now result :(
[11:54] <Slart> bashca: here's one.. I don't know how good it is, you'll have to figure that out yourself.. http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[11:54] <music`freak> hi ppl.
[11:54] <vircuser> hehe kernel-compilation
[11:54] <vircuser> that's like the sledgehammer ;)
[11:55] <music`freak> need help with configuring my display in Ubuntu
[11:55] <tdawgedogg> how do i view all the packages I have on my computer then check what ones I wanna get rid of using synatpic package manager
[11:55] <bashca> Slart, thanks i will look
[11:55] <Slart> tdawgedogg: there is a button for.. status I think.. where you can select to view installed packages
[11:55] <music`freak> How do i know if the right graphics driver has been installed ?
[11:56] <music`freak> prince_jammys: ?
[11:56] <unknow[off]> ima li bylgari tuka?
[11:56] <Slart> !turkey
[11:56] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:56] <music`freak> :/
[11:56] <Slart> or.. wait.. bylgari.. sounds like bulgaria..
[11:56] <tdawgedogg> do i wanna do a removal or a complete removal to get rid of a program in package manager?
[11:56] <Slart> !bulgaria
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bulgaria - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <vircuser> yea start up package man and click the spot at the top left to sort the packages starting with the ones installed
[11:57] <Slart> !bg
[11:57] <ubotu> опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[11:57] <unknow[off]> does somebody speak bulgarian here?
[11:57] <dgjones> !bg
[11:57] <unknow[off]> !bg
[11:58]  * ^silverdor 5 menit off
[11:58] <DjViper> !us
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <vircuser> but to be honest, the adept package manager that comes with kubuntu is better
[11:58] <vircuser> it's even got a nice little chkeck mark to display only install packages etc.
[11:58] <georgepumpi> will someone help me to install graphic drivers for nVidia?
[11:58] <tdawgedogg> do i wanna do a removal or a complete removal to get rid of a program in package manager?
[11:59] <music`freak> anybody can help?
[11:59] <georgepumpi> under ubunto?
[11:59] <tdawgedogg> yeah
[11:59] <SleepingSloth> what decent alternatives are there to evolution?
[11:59] <DjViper> georgepumpi: system - administration - restricted drivers manager
[11:59] <vircuser> you can completely remove if you like
[11:59] <DjViper> SleepingSloth: thunderbird and gmail
[12:00] <music`freak> I need help with my display config
[12:00] <vircuser> other programs won't be affected
[12:00] <Slart> tdawgedogg: complete removal removes config files etc too.. removal only removes the binaries
[12:00] <tdawgedogg> ok thanks a lot!
[12:00] <vircuser> and if you think you did something wrong, you can simply install it again ;)
[12:00] <Slart> !nvidia | georgepumpi
[12:00] <ubotu> georgepumpi: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:00] <SleepingSloth> DjViper, are there any real advantages to either?
[12:00] <bulent> yes i have an some problem it's an nvidia driver install
[12:01] <georgepumpi> tnx
[12:01] <DjViper> SleepingSloth: gmail is webbased ;)
[12:01] <SleepingSloth> DjViper, i know that - i meant advantages to thunderbird or evolution... :S
[12:03] <Slart> SleepingSloth: I use thunderbird because I can use that on a windows machine if I have to as well... I don't think evolution is available on windows
[12:04] <Slart> SleepingSloth: evolution has the calendar stuff better integrated than thunderbird.. sure there is the lightning/sunbird thingy but it seems bolted on and hasn't really moved development-wise in a long time
[12:04] <howdoudo> hi. How do I get what version of ubuntu I am running in a terminal
[12:04] <Slart> howdoudo: lsb_release -a
[12:05] <faileas> Slart: actually there's a native windows evolution build. it sucks tho ;p
[12:05] <howdoudo> thankxs
[12:05] <Slart> howdoudo: or kernel version with "uname -a"
[12:05] <SleepingSloth> Slart, thanks - i'm not fussed about the calendar functions
[12:05] <Slart> faileas: hehe.. I almost said "seems like an accurate port then".. almost.. =)
[12:05] <SleepingSloth> Slart, so i think i may go with tbird
[12:05] <vircuser> iirc there is an evolution port for win, but it's slow and unstable
[12:06] <bulent> i installed nvidia drivers but while opening pc ''you are using the low grafic mode'' writing
[12:06] <caligarn1037> does anybody have a link to a site with recommended ubuntu gutsy software?
[12:06] <faileas> bulent: try picking the correct driver there?
[12:06] <bulent> what i must do now
[12:06] <shaiful> hello
[12:07] <georgepumpi> bulent will you send me the nvidia drivers that you already had?
[12:07] <shaiful> hello
[12:07] <shaiful> j help
[12:07] <tdawgedogg> wow thanks guys xchat is a lot better than xchat gnome
[12:08] <bulent> i m always the pick in geforce 7 but it's auotmaticaly vesa driver why?
[12:08] <shaiful> fuck
[12:08] <shaiful> shit
[12:08] <loa> Hello if my suspend broken down after update, what i can check
[12:08] <stdin> !language | shaiful
[12:08] <ubotu> shaiful: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:09] <shaiful> shit
[12:09] <stdin> !ops | shaiful
[12:09] <ubotu> shaiful: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[12:09] <dgjones> !ops | shaiful
[12:09] <shaiful> suck
[12:09] <shaiful> !op
[12:09] <loa> suspend2 or s2disk are broken
[12:10] <caligarn1037> anyone....? recommended software list for ubuntu/
[12:10] <caligarn1037> ?
[12:11] <njol> caligarn1037: urban terror, openarena, world of padman, alien arena 2007
[12:12] <caligarn1037> njol: those are games, i assume.
[12:12] <njol> i recommend this software
[12:12] <compwiz18> !best
[12:12] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[12:12] <njol> lol
[12:12] <caligarn1037> haha
[12:14] <bazhang> caligarn1037: sauerbraten is a must as well
[12:14] <vircuser> ubotu - why?
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <vircuser> Isn't it ok to ask people what they use and why?
[12:15] <caligarn1037> im not so interested in games..
[12:15] <KRF> hi there, where's the best location to put 'LC_MESSAGES="C"' to get this system wide?
[12:15] <KRF>  /etc/environment?
[12:15] <vircuser> is that a bot?
[12:15] <compwiz18> !ubotu
[12:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:15] <vircuser> lol
[12:15] <caligarn1037> just useful software that i can tweak around with...example: amarok, k3b, krusader, VYM,
[12:16] <vircuser> and here was me trying to have a meaningful discussion with a bot :p
[12:16] <njol> caligarn1037: ok, i may recommend to you amarok, k3b, krusader, VYM
[12:16] <philipp_> hi there, i've got some problems compiling a package
[12:16] <caligarn1037> njol: hahah. thanks...i already have those. :-/
[12:17] <caligarn1037> vircuser: give it time AI will get better. :-D
[12:17] <caligarn1037> right ubotu?
[12:17] <caligarn1037> !yes
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <bulent> always need a reconfigure
[12:17] <tdawgedogg> someone in here told me to get the sundry extra codecs for mplayer....whats the name of the package in package manager that has that
[12:17] <tdawgedogg> I found mplayer
[12:18] <caligarn1037> ugh...mplayer.
[12:18] <caligarn1037> :-P
[12:18] <tdawgedogg> Where do i get the codecs though?
[12:18] <tdawgedogg> and decoders and stuff
[12:18] <dgjones> !codecs | tdawgedogg
[12:18] <ubotu> tdawgedogg: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:19] <tdawgedogg> dgjones what does !codecs mean
[12:19] <rhineheart_m> I tried to change the settings of /etc/networking/interfaces before to static from DHCP....but when I rebooted the machine...I cannot access it anymore.. So I went to the box and configure it via console. Is anyone here who could assist me?
[12:19] <tdawgedogg> do i type that in terminal or something
[12:19] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: or you can just grab autmoatix...or even better...just download vlc media player...it should have all the necessaries
[12:19] <caligarn1037> *automatix2
[12:19] <compwiz18> !automatix
[12:19] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[12:19] <tdawgedogg> is vlc media player better than mplayer though...I want the best for playing HD mkv files and ts files
[12:20] <caligarn1037> compwiz18: interesting
[12:20] <dgjones> tdawgedogg, it prompts the channel bot to give you infor about codecs, have a look at the link that ubotu has just put in the channel and follow the links, that will explain what the best thing to do is
[12:20] <vircuser> !ubuntu
[12:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <compwiz18> caligarn1037: yeah - automatix can screw some stuff up sometimes
[12:20] <caligarn1037> compwiz18: i guess it's best to go with vlc ten
[12:20] <compwiz18> IIRC, it doesn't use the package manager, which defeats the point of having a package manager
[12:20] <caligarn1037> then*
[12:20] <tdawgedogg> what does !codecs mean?
[12:20] <compwiz18> caligarn1037: I agree - vlc or mplayer are awesome
[12:21] <vircuser> the bot will answer to anything following a "!"
[12:21] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: you need codecs to watch different types of videos/music
[12:21] <tdawgedogg> oh lol crap
[12:21] <elektronik123> !a
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <compwiz18> :D
[12:21] <NthDegree> !zomgwtfbbq
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zomgwtfbbq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <rhineheart_m> Hello---I tried to change the settings of /etc/network/interfaces before to static from DHCP....but when I rebooted the machine...I cannot access it anymore.. So I went to the box and configure it via console. Is anyone here who could assist me?
[12:21] <caligarn1037> vircuser: anything?!
[12:21] <caligarn1037> !betterlife
[12:21] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: make sure you have an auto line for your ethernet
[12:21] <tdawgedogg> heh ya i know what a codec is but do i need to get some for mplayer....decoders as well?
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about betterlife - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <vircuser> he will answer
[12:21] <caligarn1037> amazing
[12:21] <vircuser> i didn't say the answer would be helpful ;)
[12:22] <bulent> nvidia driver is not active
[12:22] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree:  how to do it?
[12:22] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: I made the mistake of deleting the auto lines thinking they related to DHCP >.>
[12:22] <compwiz18> tdawgedogg: I may be wrong, but I *think* VLC and mplayer don't need codecs or have them built in or something
[12:22] <bazhang> tdawgedogg: using gnome you want to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:22] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: 1 sec and i'll paste my 4 lines
[12:22] <tdawgedogg> i have all the respatories installed i think
[12:22] <compwiz18> !pastebin | NthDegree
[12:22] <ubotu> NthDegree: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <caligarn1037> compwiz18: i agree with you...vlc comes fully equipped
[12:23] <NthDegree> compwiz18: not on separate lines :P all on one
[12:23] <bazhang> tdawgedogg: that will allow vlc and mplayer and others (mp3 players etc) to have all the codecs they need
[12:23] <compwiz18> NthDegree: OK, I just do that because the floodbot kicks unsuspecting people :)
[12:23] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: i've never needed to get extra codecs for vlc
[12:23] <Shinji-> compwiz18, VLC has built-in codecs
[12:23] <ivanus> zagreb.hr.eu.undernet.org
[12:24] <gerutzu> hallo leute :)
[12:24] <compwiz18> I can never tell because I install everything that starts with gstreamer so I have everything anyway...
[12:24] <compwiz18> Shinji-: thank you :)
[12:24] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static \n address 10.0.0.1 \n netmask 255.255.255.0 \n gateway 10.0.0.254
[12:24] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: \n means newline
[12:24] <gerutzu> #/join ubuntu-de
[12:24] <tdawgedogg> what about like a ffdshow decoder or something....maybe this is just a windows thing but thats what i always used to play my mkv files
[12:24] <vircuser> hallo leut
[12:24] <vircuser> what's the singular of Leute?
[12:24] <bazhang> tdawgedogg: vlc will play them
[12:24] <compwiz18> vlc will play just about anything
[12:25] <caligarn1037> vlc is just plain magical
[12:25] <vircuser> can it play guitar too?
[12:25] <compwiz18> vircuser: no, sorry :(
[12:25] <tdawgedogg> k ill give it a try...but im worried about my processor...things didnt play well unless i used ffdshow or coreavc decord in windows
[12:25] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: that is what mine has and may give you a clue.. gateway is your router IP and generally if you're 192.168.xxx.xxx then the netmask I have is correct
[12:25] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: 	address 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0  network 192.168.1.0  broadcast 192.168.1.255  gateway 192.168.1.1. Please explain the difference between address and network?
[12:25] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: good luck...
[12:25] <tdawgedogg> thanks
[12:26] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: netmask? it's the subnet mask
[12:26] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you want auto eth0 or the like for the beginning
[12:26] <NthDegree> that is why it won't load on boot most likely
[12:26] <knappen> Hi ppl, i'm having trubble to print. After i installed the printer and i want to run test page i'll get this error: 19/Feb/2008:14:45:01 +0100] Unable to find IP address for server name "knappen-laptop"!
[12:26] <NthDegree> auto [interface] means to bring up the interface on boot
[12:27] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: okay.. let
[12:27] <compwiz18> knappen: can you use the pastebin to put the contents of /etc/hosts up for us to see?
[12:27] <compwiz18> !pastebin | knappen
[12:27] <ubotu> knappen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:28] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: let's start from the beginning.... address is the local IP of the box. netmask is the subnet. how about the network? what is it?
[12:28] <NthDegree> network?
[12:29] <NthDegree> ah
[12:29] <NthDegree> inet static
[12:29] <NthDegree> iface [interface name] inet static
[12:29] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: what is it? please explain...how would I determine the box' inet static?
[12:29] <knappen> compwiz18 Say what? :P
[12:30] <NthDegree> errr? :S
[12:30] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: what do you mean by network?
[12:30] <SleepingSloth> is there any way of finding out what thread is using my upstream bandwidth (something along the same lines as top)
[12:30] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: I figured you meant specifying the type of network connection
[12:30] <compwiz18> knappen: open /etc/hosts and put the output in the pastebin
[12:30] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I got it from this guide: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[12:31] <compwiz18> knappen: you can run the command >cat /etc/hosts<
[12:31] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: that line isn't needed (broadcast isn't needed either) but you can add it if you want to
[12:31] <njol>  i use mpeg2 tv-tuner to capture playstation 2 and only way for me to have no input device lag is to use mplayer to capture raw video instead of mpeg 2 stream, but i would like to use some GUI software, any ideas?
[12:32] <rhineheart_m> okay..please enumerate what I need to configure there...
[12:32] <NthDegree> you only need: auto, iface, address, netmask, gateway
[12:32] <knappen> Dealing with that l8r. g2g ^ ^
[12:33] <tdawgedogg> hey guys is pidgin the best aim client for ubuntu...i really like adium for osx i know pidgin is kinda related to that
[12:33] <NthDegree> the rest is optional in most cases if it's just for a basic network connection
[12:33] <xoqa> where are the locales located?
[12:33] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how about inet?
[12:33] <knappen> cat /etc/hosts
[12:33] <xoqa> my terminal doesn't recognize certain character encodings.
[12:33] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: the iface line is the one with inet static in it
[12:34] <r3m0t> I have a crossplatform problem. I'm running Ubuntu and I have a 27G compressed ntfsclone image. I don't have enough space to store the decompressed image even if I delete the compressed version. I want to transfer all the files in the image to a new Macbook Pro. can anybody help?
[12:34] <levander> I see the "Shared Folders" dialog for making folders available to other computers for mounting over the network.  Is there no reciprocal dialog for taking an available network folder and mounting it on your computer?
[12:34] <r3m0t> levander: if you're using Gnome, Places->Network
[12:34] <tdawgedogg> hey guys is pidgin the best aim client for ubuntu...i really like adium for osx i know pidgin is kinda related to that
[12:35] <Slart> tdawgedogg: best means different things to different people
[12:35] <meekolope> r3m0t: how much space do u have on ure macbook? are u trying to clone the image to ure macbook and run xp on it? or just move the files to it in the form of a image file?
[12:35] <levander> tdawgedogg: don't know personally, pidgin is definitely the most popular, could search ubuntuforums for recommendations if you want to spend time testing other stuff
[12:35] <tdawgedogg> most popular i shall say! most supported or whatever
[12:35] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0  gateway 192.168.1.1
[12:35] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: try that
[12:35] <Slart> tdawgedogg: some people want a client that runs in a terminal and uses only jabber.. others want video conversations using msn and couldn't care less about jabber
[12:35] <tdawgedogg> ok thanks
[12:35] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: please correct== auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.9 (box static IP)  netmask 255.255.255.0 (subnet)  network 192.168.1.9  (box IP) gateway 192.168.1.2 (router ip)
[12:36] <levander> tdawgedogg: Yeah, pidgin is Ubuntu's default messaging client.  It's what they recommend you use.
[12:36] <Pici> Mez: He did call the ops himself:07:09:11 <?shaiful> !op
[12:36] <Pici> erg
[12:36] <Pici> Wrong window :o
[12:36] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: network 192.168.1.0 (network range) <-- but that line is relatively pointless given what netmask's job is
[12:37] <cyphase> Is there a way to only update one repository with apt, instead of all of them?
[12:37] <r3m0t> meekolope: enough space to store the whole thing. what I want is, e.g., can I run ntfsclone on OS X to change the format of the image, can I run ntfsclone on the MBP running a Live CD which writes to the HFS+ partition... or what?
[12:37] <caligarn1037> tdawgedogg: or if you go to synaptic and type in chat...it might get you a nice healthy list of programs
[12:37] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: what do I need to place there then? in network?
[12:37] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: nothing, get rid of that line
[12:37] <tdawgedogg> oh good call
[12:37] <NthDegree> you don't need a "network" line for it to work
[12:37] <Trae> What's a way to make sure I don't have any kde stuff on my ubuntu system.  Every since I installed the kde desktop my machine has been running slow as poop.  I thought I removed some of it... but I think some things still linger
[12:38] <Trae> stuff like kthread and kblockd are running in top
[12:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: THIS one? auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.9 (box static IP) netmask 255.255.255.0 (subnet) gateway 192.168.1.2 (router ip)
[12:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: yep :)
[12:38] <NthDegree> try that
[12:38] <meekolope> r3m0t: im not sure about that, if it were a matter of just figuring out a transfer I would have some ideas
[12:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I will try it right now.. thanks.. I will update you if I got it to run..
[12:39] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: once you've saved that file.. do an ifup eth0
[12:39] <wers> I already installed the murrine engine but the murrine themes still don't display well. they still look like mist. any suggestion? :)
[12:39] <NthDegree> then ping google.com
[12:39] <levander> r3m0t: I found the share in Places -> Network.  Now, where do I click to mount it?
[12:39] <r3m0t> right-click I believe
[12:39] <levander> r3m0t: It has to be a permanent mount.  It's a mythtv directory I want to share.
[12:39] <levander> r3m0t: right click -> Make a Link gives me a permission error.
[12:41] <swim_love> hi all: I have a single hard disk, without any partitions and I do have quite a amount of data on it, Can someone tell me how I can install ubuntu on this windows machine without loosing any of my windows data
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Hmm..if you have windows data on it.. you do have a partition.
[12:42] <faileas> swim_love: do you want to repartition it?
[12:42] <cef> anyone know why my alsa audio is all crackly? does it on 2 machines (one gutsy, one feisty). Pure OSS audio is fine. using aoss (from alsa-oss) is crackly. Using direct alsa is crackly. No shared interrupts (I checked).
[12:42] <levander> swim_love: YOu do have a partition.  YOu have a single large partition taking the entire disk.
[12:42] <deniz__> i used devede to burn perfectly working video files to dvd and there is no sound!!!
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Gparted can resize windows partitions  - freeing up some unallocated space at the end of the drive.. You can then install linux to.
[12:42] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: got this message: Ignoring unknown interface etho=etho.
[12:42] <deniz__> i have a skool project due today and im alredy late to skool!
[12:42] <JonathanD> backup the drive first.
[12:42] <levander> swim_love: You need to resize that partition so that there's enough room at the end for a minimum of one partition for Linux.
[12:42] <JonathanD> I repeat, swim_love, backup the drive first.
[12:43] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: try eth0 not etho
[12:43] <swim_love> faileas, I don't mind repartitioning it, but I want to be very sure that I don't loose any data on it
[12:43] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: number not letter
[12:43] <JonathanD> swim_love: then backup the drive first.
[12:43] <JonathanD> :P
[12:43] <Slart> Dr_willis, levander: actually you *can* put data on a drive without a partition.. but you really have to work to make it happen.. and I'm not sure you can do it from windows =)
[12:43] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: got this ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[12:43] <Dr_willis> swim_love,  hard drives coulddie at any time.. if the data in imporntant   then BACK IT UP. do it now.. do it anyway even if you are not installing anything. :)
[12:43] <jimmygoon> I need something I can specify at boot off the live disc to force ubuntu to mount my ntsc drive in my PC as READ ONLY... I'm encountering some weird HD issues and I want to backup some of my data
[12:43] <swim_love> levander, sure I can resize the partition: do you know of any freewares that can do this job
[12:43] <jimmygoon> but I can't have it written to
[12:43] <rilo> Soo, how can I enter extended ASCII given default keyboard settings for a US 105-key generic keyboard? It's actually a laptop keyboard and I would have to use Fn to simulate the keypad
[12:43] <faileas> swim_love: if your just experimenting, take a look at wubi, it installs linux in images inside your windows drive, and you can always repartition,and export it to a 'real' partition later
[12:43] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[12:43] <Slart> swim_love: if you want to be really really sure.. buy a new drive and put ubuntu on it..
[12:44] <NthDegree> may need to be sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[12:44] <Dr_willis> swim_love,  the gparted tool on many live cd's can do it.. and the ubuntu installer can autmaticially do it i belive.
[12:44] <NthDegree> (depends on if you're root or not)
[12:44] <levander> swim_love: I've never done it myself.  It's possible that the Ubuntu install process off the Live CD will let you resize.  But, I don't remember...
[12:44] <JonathanD> swim_love: but you should still.... backup the drive first.
[12:44] <swim_love> Dr_willis, ok so if thats the case then I could simplyuse the ubuntu installer itself and so what option do I seelect during the install time
[12:45] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: after executing that command what will happen?
[12:45] <swim_love> JonathanD, ya thats fine
[12:45] <JonathanD> :p
[12:45] <jafa> just been hit by a kernel bug in .22 (Gutsy) that results in data corruption. The cifs client returns partial files from a samba share when the samba server is under high load. It looks like RedHat fixed the bug in the .23 kernel. What is the process for getting the fix into the Gutsy kernel?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> swim_love,  no idea. i always do it manually with a gparted live cd. Read the  Ubuntu installer docs would be a good idea.
[12:45] <Pici> !bug | jafa
[12:45] <ubotu> jafa: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[12:45] <JonathanD> swim_love: I don't mean to be repetative ;) but it's an oft-ignored thing... ignored, that is, until they come back here and scream "I lost all my data!!"
[12:45] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: it reconfigures eth0 to the new settings
[12:45] <Dr_willis> I belive the installer has a 'resize and use free space' option
[12:45] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: after that see if ping google.com works
[12:46] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I executed it already and it gives me the messages DONE
[12:46] <swim_love> yes JonathanD, I really understand what you mentioned: and I think thats very important too
[12:46] <swim_love> Dr_willis, ok, I will try that
[12:46] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: okay try ping google.com
[12:46] <NthDegree> see what happens
[12:47] <randompolygamy> Any one here running Aptana? i need some install help
[12:47] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy,  i was, but i doubt i'd be any help
[12:47] <randompolygamy> SleepingSloth, did u have it running properly?
[12:49] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, well... i believe so
[12:49] <SpacePilot> Is there a reason why a 500GB harddrive, that is newvle formatted, should only show 381.2GB of free space?
[12:49] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, i have a feeling i somehow borked it later though
[12:49] <randompolygamy> well, did you have to install any dependacies?
[12:49] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, none
[12:50] <randompolygamy> hmmm...
[12:50] <Dr_willis> SpacePilot,  5% is reserved for root user ussage/lost+found - thats tuneble with the tune2fs command.
[12:50] <Dr_willis> SpacePilot,  rest could be rounding error. :)
[12:50] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, what is the problem you're having?
[12:50] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, i take that back - i still have it installed, and yes it is working
[12:51] <randompolygamy> http://pastebin.com/m71797c7e
[12:51] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy,  must have been thinking of another eclipse plugin...
[12:51] <randompolygamy> it appears i dont have the eclipse dpendacies..
[12:51] <randompolygamy> im running gutsy gobuntu
[12:51] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, ah yes, i remember... i did have to get 'alternative' java files
[12:51] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: Thanks! It works..
[12:51] <damaltor> hello everybody... since today, i have no sound in kubuntu (gutsy). while i watched a film yesterday (with sound) and then opened it in kdenlive to cut out the ads,i noticed that all clips were w/o sound. in the console output there was something like, no sound device found. so i went to bed, shut down the computer in hope that everything will be okay again today. but now, there is no sound at all - no mp3 playback, no movie sound, no syst
[12:51] <damaltor> em sound... none. if i try to play something in mplayer, it immediately freezes and hast du be killed via killall (then says something like, terminated in "play_sound"). what now? :(
[12:52] <Frogzoo> Dr_willis: you're best to leave the 5% well alone
[12:52] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you're the one that did all the work :) enjoy
[12:52] <Dr_willis> Frogzoo,  I dont worry about it. :) and yes i do set it to 1% - but i also have backups of my.. err..  vacation videos..
[12:53] <Dr_willis> of course if my HD is gettting 95% full.. its time for me to go get a bigger hd.
[12:53] <ideasman_42> hiffy, Im interested in making ubuntu systems more responsive
[12:53] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: can you point me a link which would instruct me on how to configure squirrelmail correctly?
[12:53] <randompolygamy> SleepingSloth, care to take this to a pm?
[12:53] <SpacePilot> Anyone feel like helping me a little with the tune2fs command?
[12:53] <SleepingSloth> randompolygamy, sure
[12:54] <damaltor> SpacePilot: what do you want to so?
[12:54] <damaltor> *do
[12:54] <SpacePilot> I want to be able to use the maximum amount of my 500GB harddrive, or atleast just as much as I could use under windows.
[12:54] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: unfortunately I don't know of any, the ubuntu forums are the best place to find info on things like that
[12:55] <damaltor> SpacePilot: how much did u use in win?
[12:55] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: Thanks.. Do I need to edit /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:55] <rinaldi_> hi what do i need to add to menu.lst in grub in order to add my vista hard drive (200gb one) here's my fdisk -l   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56741/   thanks
[12:55] <SpacePilot> I am not sure exactly how much of a 500GB harddrive is used under windows, but it is more than 381GB.
[12:56] <damaltor> SpacePilot: ok... did you try to open the hdd in fdisk?
[12:56] <zaggy-nl> whoa, 1206 people
[12:58] <damaltor> hello everybody... since today, i have no sound in kubuntu (gutsy). while i watched a film yesterday (with sound) and then opened it in kdenlive to cut out the ads,i noticed that all clips were w/o sound. in the console output there was something like, no sound device found. so i went to bed, shut down the computer in hope that everything will be okay again today. but now, there is no sound at all - no mp3 playback, no movie sound, no syst
[12:58] <damaltor> em sound... none. if i try to play something in mplayer, it immediately freezes and hast du be killed via killall (then says something like, terminated in "play_sound"). what now? :(
[12:58] <ideasman_42> Is there some way to use hdparm with sata
[12:58] <ideasman_42> setting DMA and 32bit access fail, and Im using a new system
[12:58] <ideasman_42> hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/sda
[12:59] <ideasman_42> used to work years ago for almost any hard disk over 10gig
[12:59] <ideasman_42> now on sata disk its reporting 16bit no DMA access
[12:59] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, i have the same report
[12:59] <Tyczek> but I don't think it worse performance
[13:00] <ideasman_42> Tyczek, were running ubuntu in the Blender3D institute
[13:00] <ideasman_42> and just discussing why our systems seem slow
[13:00] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, oh...
[13:00] <SpacePilot> Ok, I opened the disk with fdisk, and it says the disk is 500GB, but then something about "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." Then "Partition 2...", "Partition 3...", "Partition¤....". That disc ain't partitioned either.
[13:01] <Tyczek> maybe somebody knows solution?
[13:01] <kaushal> hi
[13:01] <ideasman_42> It wen they swap the systems get really slow. even when there is a lot of ram free
[13:01] <zaggy-nl> Anyone knows if ubuntu supports the creative x-fi extreme gamer soundcard?
[13:01] <kaushal> I have installed apache2-src using synaptic where can i find it
[13:01] <ideasman_42> (The disk access seems to make the system lag)
[13:02] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, if you solve this problem, can you tell me how to? It would be great to check it :)
[13:02] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: check it and look for some nameserver lines
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[13:02] <lolfrenz> kaushal, try /usr/src
[13:02] <frold> Best CD/DVD burner tool?
[13:02] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you may wish to change the top one to the IP of your router, to simplify DNS
[13:02] <zaggy-nl> k3b
[13:03] <zaggy-nl> frold, ^
[13:03] <lolfrenz> kaushal, try /usr/src and /usr/local/src
[13:03] <randompolygamy> SleepingSloth, Register to nickserver so we can pm
[13:03] <kaushal> ok
[13:03] <frold> zaggy-nl: ?
[13:03] <zaggy-nl> frold, k3b is one of the better cd/dvd burning tools I've used
[13:03] <jimmygoon> I need something I can specify at boot off the live disc to force ubuntu to mount my ntsc drive in my PC as READ ONLY... I'm encountering some weird HD issues and I want to backup some of my data
[13:03] <Tyczek> ideasman_42, i red something... want you hear?
[13:03] <frold> zaggy-nl: can it handle DVDs?
[13:03] <zaggy-nl> Sure thing
[13:04] <ideasman_42> Tyczek, yea?
[13:04] <Tyczek> HDPARM shouldn't be use with Satas... so basically this problem doesn't exist
[13:04] <zaggy-nl> I've burned DVD video disks with it
[13:04] <Tyczek> They say in forum
[13:04] <kaushal> lolfrenz: it isnt there
[13:04] <zaggy-nl> hmm, so what do you use for sata disks then?
[13:04] <randompolygamy> Trying to get Aptana Working properly having issues with java/eclipse  Check my paste bin >>>  http://pastebin.com/m71797c7e
[13:05] <frold> zaggy-nl:  im installling it right now!
[13:05] <zaggy-nl> okay
[13:05] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: There are two entries there already.. What I need to modify to 192.168.1.9 and why?
[13:06] <kaushal> lolfrenz: you there
[13:06] <randompolygamy> Trying to get Aptana Working properly having issues with java/eclipse  >>><< Gobuntu Gutsy >>><< Check my paste bin >>>  http://pastebin.com/m71797c7e
[13:08] <rinaldi_> hi i just plugged a vista hard drive on sata into my pc. how can i add it to the grub menu in menu.lst?
[13:08] <Pici> randompolygamy: What version of java are you using?
[13:08] <Pici> randompolygamy: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[13:11] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I rebooted the box.. I can't access it anymore through ssh.... I didn't modified the /etc/resolv.conf
[13:11] <GSK> hi everybody
[13:11] <toblerone> hi rhineheart_m, try running your ssh daemon again
[13:11] <toblerone> :)
[13:11] <teliti> Hello! I'm searching a WallPaper which is used in Ubuntu-7.10 but I'm not using ubuntu! Where can I find the WallPapers which are used by gnome in ubunut?
[13:11] <GSK> someone can help me on vmware ?
[13:11] <Stagger> !it
[13:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:11] <frold> where to read more about the comming release 8.04? Release deadlines and progress and what it includes...
[13:12] <GSK> i have a problem with the bridged mode
[13:12] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: okay change /etc/resolv.conf so you have a line nameserver 192.168.1.1
[13:12] <NthDegree> 192.168.1.1 being your router IP
[13:12] <kaushal> hi again
[13:12] <NthDegree> and toblerone is likely correct, OpenSSH doesn't depend 100% on DNS
[13:12] <kaushal> can anyone here tell me where is the path to apache2-src in ubuntu 7.04
[13:13] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: sorry for the wrong info.. I was able to connect.. connection problem I guess.. Please advise me now.. do I need to change the /etc/resolv.conf?
[13:13] <NthDegree> kaushal: why not find / | grep apache2-src
[13:13] <kaushal> when i run find / -name "apache2-src" -print
[13:13] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: look at it and add a line like this to the beginning:
[13:13] <kaushal> i get /usr/share/doc/apache2-src
[13:13] <NthDegree> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[13:14] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: any other lines should point to valid domain name servers =]
[13:14] <NthDegree> and if that is the case you're all sorted
[13:14] <Fragmagnet20> hellp
[13:14] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree:  box static is 192.168.1.9... why 192.168.1.1?
[13:14] <Stavros1> how can i cat something from stdin?
[13:15] <SiNi> hey
[13:15] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: it is the IP of your router you want
[13:15] <SiNi> i am new here lol
[13:15] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: the gateway IP is the one you want as the first nameserver line
[13:15] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: so you mean..I will then use 192.168.1.2?
[13:15] <SiNi> exit
[13:16] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: whatever your gateway IP is what you put as the first nameserver line
[13:16] <teliti> Could someone please tell my the name of a WallPaper which is used in Ubuntu? It shows dry earth. Its in the official Ubuntu 7.10 install CD
[13:16] <Stagger> hell, I cannot import mpc files into rhythmbox. I have the codec (i can play mpc's in totem or vlc), buti cant seem to be able to add those files to rhythmbox. any suggestions?
[13:16] <NthDegree> then two after that for your ISPs known primary and secondary DNS servers
[13:17] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have an account in zoneedit. Can I use it also here? I have domain currently pointed to my static ip.
[13:18] <Stavros> how can i cat multiple lines?
[13:19] <arekkusu> Stagger: VLC has it's own codec buil-in so it mean nothing. I am surprised it plays in totem and not rhythmbox though
[13:19] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: what do you mean?
[13:19] <arekkusu> Stagge: I have got a lot of MPC imported in mine... had no problem musst be something missing (?!)
[13:19] <teliti> Where can I find the source to ubuntu?
[13:20] <NthDegree> /etc/resolv.conf is for resolving domains, not specifying what IP they are
[13:20] <NthDegree> /etc/hosts will let you specify IP to name mappings
[13:20] <dam_> hello everyone I have some problems with amsn it won't start it just goes away why ??
[13:20] <NthDegree> @ rhineheart_m
[13:20] <NthDegree> dam_: run it in a console
[13:20] <NthDegree> console/konsole/gnome-terminal
[13:20] <dam_> how ?
[13:21] <NthDegree> dam_: open up a terminal and type amsn
[13:21] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have domain registered. M using zoneedit.com to point my domain nameservers to my static ip.
[13:21] <dam_> wish8.5: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:21] <toblerone> waaaahhh
[13:21] <NthDegree> dam_: now you know the problem.. install tcl libraries
[13:21] <toblerone> this is chaos.. there's too many people trying to explain and asked at the same time
[13:22] <Colossus73> hi
[13:22] <calgot> I have a question regarding Kinesis keyboards and international layouts in ubuntu - am I in the right place? :)
[13:23] <Colossus73> according to what I read here:http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html the print option should be in the file menu and leading to a window allowing print preview and print WITHOUT gutenprint
[13:23] <arekkusu> calgot: Go ahead you can always ask :)
[13:23] <Colossus73> but in the gimp ubuntu package there is no print option
[13:23] <GSK> nobody for vmware ?
[13:23] <music`freak> hi guys
[13:23] <teliti> toblerone: *g*
[13:23] <music`freak> I need help with configuring my display in Ubuntu
[13:23] <Colossus73> I don't want to install gutenprint because the 2.4 has native print facility
[13:23] <Colossus73> can anyone share light on this?
[13:23] <calgot> Well I can't use my AltGr key at all, I normally use it to get "at" sign etc but AltGr-2 just zooms in my window
[13:24] <dam_> where do I get that library ?
[13:24] <calgot> Keyboard shortcuts indicates my AltGr is Super_R, if that's any help
[13:24] <calgot> I'd really like my at-sign, it's kinda useful ;)
[13:24] <music`freak> anyone using Intel 845G chipset/mb?
[13:24] <arekkusu> calgot: Ok... that's strange for sure
[13:25] <calgot> Uhm and also, i'm on a mac mini...
[13:25] <toblerone> why music`freak?
[13:25] <cicero_b> i forgot to run the process in the background -- anyone know how to fix my mistake (?), i hit ^z now it is stopped . . .
[13:25] <GSK> problem with bridged mode
[13:25] <music`freak> i'm having trouble with my display toblerone
[13:25] <cicero_b> do i have to kill my xterm
[13:25] <calgot> cicero_b, just type 'bg'
[13:25] <Dr_willis> cicero_b,  use the bg command
[13:25] <toblerone> pardon me, but why does a mac user wants to use ubuntu? im not saying that dont use ubuntu, its kinda weird with OSX is also nice and stable :)
[13:25] <Laney_Family> hello everyone
[13:25] <Dr_willis> google for bash job controll to learn more. :)
[13:25] <music`freak> many times i'm unable to login to my desktop from the main screen
[13:25] <cicero_b> bg job number, or just bg
[13:25] <music`freak> all i get is a blank screen
[13:26] <Dr_willis> toblerone,  i disagree with the nice and stable part. :)
[13:26] <music`freak> and some times it works fine
[13:26] <music`freak> so its kinda frustrating
[13:26] <Laney_Family> i have a couple more dumb Q for you guys,
[13:26] <CyaNox> Heya anybody experience in setting up an conceptronic usb wireless thingy. Its afaik a RaLink rt2570 one.
[13:27] <arekkusu> calgot: I don't have much idea for your problem... remapping the keyboard maybe but you shouldn't have to do that
[13:27] <tickler> hi
[13:27] <toblerone> ok Dr_willis, i assume your another ubuntu zealot :P
[13:27] <music`freak> How do i know if i have the right display driver installed toblerone?
[13:27] <tickler> ubuntu is tha bomb
[13:27] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have domain registered. M using zoneedit.com to point my domain nameservers to my static ip.
[13:27] <Laney_Family> anyone know how to setup remote desktop on ubuntu 7.10
[13:27] <Dr_willis> toblerone,  more of a person thats watched/used/been #$&@&@& by apple too many times in the years...
[13:27] <calgot> Seems the problem really is that my AltGr is Super_R... silly international keyboards, right
[13:28] <Dr_willis> toblerone,  and you dont want to get me started on this discussion. :)
[13:28] <toblerone> hahaha
[13:28] <toblerone> not really
[13:28] <toblerone> im neutral :)
[13:28] <music`freak> ??
[13:28] <Dr_willis> in short they go 'we are the best.. we just dont want to actually sell a lotof things.. that would hurt our elite image' :)
[13:28] <tickler> ubuntu is great because of ease of use and simplicity
[13:28] <toblerone> hehehehe
[13:28] <toblerone> ok
[13:28] <toblerone> this is nicier.. linux talk
[13:28] <toblerone> :P
[13:29] <zaggy-nl> now if only my xfi extremegamer soundcard was supported, I'd use it
[13:29]  * zaggy-nl shakes fist at creative
[13:29] <faileas> Laney_Family: specifically RDP or just any form of remote desktop?
[13:29] <music`freak> i wish i'd feel the same way
[13:29] <Laney_Family> RDP
[13:29] <faileas> then i have no idea
[13:29] <Laney_Family> i ahve enabled it in the system menu
[13:29] <tickler> I have ubuntu works fineon my acer laptop and it
[13:29] <cliebow> toblerone, you can always start your own channel when you find someone you want to converse with..
[13:30] <music`freak> is there any channal where i can get my display related queries answered?
[13:30] <Laney_Family> when i try from windows with RDP via IP its a nogo
[13:30] <tickler> my wireless works great
[13:30] <faileas> ahh
[13:30]  * faileas thinks its a RDP client not a server isn't it?
[13:30] <tickler> only thing is i can't get my acer orbi cam working because it uses bison driver
[13:30] <faileas> i might be wrong, i usually go for freenx for remoting
[13:31] <Laney_Family> freenx?
[13:31] <calgot> well back to os-x then, hmm
[13:31] <music`freak> prince_jammys:  u around mate?
[13:32] <Colossus73> join #ubuntu-devel
[13:32] <music`freak> bah
[13:32] <Laney_Family> any other ideas?
[13:33] <AliTarihi> Has anyone installed Looking Glass?
[13:33] <prince_jammys> music`freak: yeag
[13:33] <prince_jammys> h
[13:33] <AliTarihi> Looking Glass*
[13:33] <faileas> !freenx | Laney_Family
[13:33] <ubotu> Laney_Family: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[13:33] <cicero_b> hey, when i am in a 'more' window, how i do search (or go the top)
[13:33] <music`freak> prince_jammys:  i need help with configuring my display
[13:33] <prince_jammys> music`freak: mmm this is something i'm not very good at, but what's the problem
[13:33] <faileas> Laney_Family: i seem to think it does RDP as well
[13:34] <AliTarihi> any idea?
[13:34] <music`freak> having trouble with my display
[13:34] <Laney_Family> so... i install it on both my vista rig and ubuntu? or just ubuntu
[13:35] <music`freak> many a times when i log in from the main screen i end up with a blank screen
[13:35] <ridnowan> Any 1 know how to install kde from kubuntu cd
[13:35] <music`freak> & end up doing a hard reboot
[13:35] <music`freak> even ctr+alt+backspace doesn't work
[13:35] <faileas> Laney_Family: one moment, i'll check. you can install the server on ubuntu, and the client runs on windows (and does both RDP and nx)
[13:35] <cicero_b> hey, anyone know how to search when using the 'more' command
[13:35] <zaggy-nl> cicero_b, uh, how do you mean search?
[13:35] <cliebow> music`freak, and i suppose youve donedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:35] <faileas> windows RDP server to linux client,no idea
[13:36] <cicero_b> zaggy-nl: say i want to find a term in a man-page . . .
[13:36] <zaggy-nl> cicero_b, it's just a screen by screen split up of the output as far as I know
[13:36] <music`freak> yeah i tried that after reading something from a forum
[13:36] <cicero_b> yeah -- i remember before hitting 's' or something that helped me search
[13:36] <cicero_b> also, remember i could scroll to the top
[13:37] <zaggy-nl> I don't think man and more have to do with each other
[13:37] <prince_jammys> cicero_b: i think   /
[13:37] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you are running a named on your system?
[13:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: or do you mean the A record points to your IP?
[13:38] <cicero_b> yep -- thanks
[13:38] <prince_jammys> cicero_b: i think / also works with less
[13:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: named? how to check it?
[13:40] <abuyazan> hello
[13:40] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: /etc/resolv.conf is for you resolving domain names like google.com.. unless you have bind or another form of named running on your system then nameserver should be set to your ISPs DNS servers and your router's IP
[13:40] <tickler> deez nutz
[13:41] <abuyazan> i had a real IP Address on my machine, i replaced it with virtual one by running ifconfig new ip and change the default route
[13:41] <Laney_Family> soo....
[13:41] <abuyazan> but still i can ping the old IP
[13:41] <damaltor> hello everybody... since today, i have no sound in kubuntu (gutsy). while i watched a film yesterday (with sound) and then opened it in kdenlive to cut out the ads,i noticed that all clips were w/o sound. in the console output there was something like, no sound device found. so i went to bed, shut down the computer in hope that everything will be okay again today. but now, there is no sound at all - no mp3 playback, no movie sound, no syst
[13:41] <damaltor> em sound... none. if i try to play something in mplayer, it immediately freezes and hast du be killed via killall (then says something like, terminated in "play_sound"). what now? :(
[13:41] <abuyazan> and when i do trace to some network it goes through the old one
[13:41] <tickler> Just reinstall it
[13:41] <NthDegree> damaltor: tried cleaning out /tmp ?
[13:42] <abuyazan> is there a cache that i can delete it ?
[13:42] <damaltor> NthDegree: just a sec, woth a try
[13:42] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have bind DNS server version 9... what should I need to configure?
[13:42] <damaltor> NthDegree: have to logout and in, no?
[13:42] <NthDegree> damaltor: reboot
[13:43] <damaltor> kk
[13:43] <NthDegree> after cleaning out /tmp as root with rm -rf /tmp/* you should reboot
[13:43] <damaltor> ok
[13:43] <NthDegree> then if that still fails.. boot an older kernel, it could be a kernel bug
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> why would a full /tmp effect his sound?
[13:44] <Pici> /tmp is cleared on each boot...
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> thast what i thought
[13:45] <_Oz_> argh
[13:45] <sint> hey, i have lots of zip files and i want to unzip them into directories with the name of the zip file. is there a command to do this in one step?
[13:45] <_Oz_> I n d y G u n F r e a k
[13:45] <NthDegree> Pici: not always
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: yo.
[13:45] <NthDegree> that depends on settings in init scripts usually
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> still doesn't really explain how a full tmp would effect sound.
[13:45] <NthDegree> IndyGunFreak: it does if you use PulseAudio or ESD
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> i guess...
[13:46] <floppy-shuriken> so ubuntu is the distro that "older" linux users use when they get tired of configure the system, and just want to do some real work? :)
[13:46] <white_eagle> hello!
[13:46] <deniz__> any1 here no how to combine multiple video files into 1 on KDENLIVE?
[13:46] <NthDegree> floppy-shuriken: in my case yeah
[13:46] <faileas> floppy-shuriken: a little of both ;p
[13:46] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I have bind DNS server version 9... what should I need to configure?
[13:46] <floppy-shuriken> all my linux gurus use ubuntu, I can't believe it, I have to find out why
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: are you asking if its easy to use?.. if thats the case, yes
[13:46] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: you want the first line in /etc/resolv.conf to be nameserver 127.0.0.1
[13:46] <sint> for example: bla.zip into bla and stuff.zip into stuff. they are all in one directory, but they are all separate zip files.
[13:47] <NthDegree> then the second line as nameserver 192.168.1.1 (or whatever your router IP is)
[13:47] <NthDegree> then 2 more lines for ISP Primary and Secondary nameservers
[13:47] <K-Ton> floppy-shuriken : i think this distro is the most usable
[13:48] <floppy-shuriken> how big is the default installation?
[13:48] <NthDegree> floppy-shuriken: it has the second least amount of security (Slackware is least secure), but is reasonably easy to use...
[13:48] <white_eagle> hello
[13:48] <damaltor> NthDegree: worked... 0o tried few solutions from the net before, think i f_cked up more then i won... but clearing /tmp did the trick
[13:48] <damaltor> thx a lot
[13:48] <NthDegree> =]
[13:48] <white_eagle> ;)
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: minimum hard drive space, you'll probably want 3-4gigs...
[13:48] <zaggy-nl> NthDegree, how is the security of a distro determined?
[13:48] <white_eagle> floppy-shuriken: 10 gigs
[13:48] <NthDegree> zaggy-nl: proactive security and default config
[13:48] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: but i'd recommend at least 10gigs
[13:48] <white_eagle> is recommended
[13:48] <NthDegree> Ubuntu has a brilliant default config
[13:48] <zaggy-nl> ah
[13:48] <EbilPhish> If you want excessive security then you probably want OpenBSD, and one in a virtual machine for each service
[13:49] <NthDegree> but sucks in the proactive security department
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: 10gigs is recommended?.. where have you saw that.
[13:49] <floppy-shuriken> I thought the sudo thing made the computer more secure
[13:49] <_Oz_> Nthdegree: it's good...  maybe not BRILLIANT, but good.
[13:49] <NthDegree> EbilPhish: no you don't
[13:49] <floppy-shuriken> the root account is inactive
[13:49] <_Oz_> floppy: it does, more or less, because the root password is locked away.
[13:49] <white_eagle> IndyGunFreak: ;) from me
[13:49] <white_eagle> I guess for begginners its the best
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: well, thast incorrect..
[13:49] <x3on> I used ubuntu for quite a long time but got fed up with the bugginess of it so moved to another distro. I almost came back to it but am wary of bloat. I gave Linux Mint a go and its great so far. Everything works perfectly after install, especially Wireless/Network manager icon and media codecs etc. Is this the same for the current release of Ubyutnu? because if i can have those same conveniences as mint, then Ill use ubuntu instead
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> don't spread bad info white_eagle
[13:49] <damaltor> NthDegree: well.. woked partially. movies/mp3/... do well, but no system sounds. knotify asked my on this startup is i wnat do enable some other sound output, was to fas t so i klicked yes... could that be the error?
[13:49] <white_eagle> ok
[13:50] <_Oz_> Ubuntu's not too bloated, and it's pretty darn stable now, x3on.
[13:50] <white_eagle> I won't IndyGunFreak
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> floppy-shuriken: its not really inactive, Ubuntu just uses root differently than most linux distros
[13:50] <_Oz_> Is Mint a free distro?
[13:50] <NthDegree> _Oz_: most distros compile with -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2, -fPIE and use either PaX or ExecShield
[13:50] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo | floppy-shuriken
[13:50] <ubotu> floppy-shuriken: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:50] <cliebow> _Oz_, yep
[13:50] <x3on> No idea Oz... free as in price, yeh
[13:50] <white_eagle> floppy-shuriken: and you know what is cool? that you don't need to defragment the disk
[13:50] <white_eagle> ever
[13:50] <Timmy> is this the room where you guys talk about computer?
[13:50] <EbilPhish> x3on:  I think Mint is just a repackaged Ubuntu but with the codecs installed, the newer Ubuntu has automatic codec installation
[13:50] <K-Ton> x3on : wireless works me fine by default, but had to download codecs
[13:50] <NthDegree> _Oz_: that's why I think Ubuntu isn't that great in the security department.. and i'm not even sure if Ubuntu linkes with -z relro or not :(
[13:51] <x3on> Im really impressed at the post installation usability though... i didnt have to do anything
[13:51] <white_eagle> linux manages free space great, where win fails
[13:51] <_Oz_> Yeah, Mint seems VERY similar to Ubuntu.
[13:51] <floppy-shuriken> well, I use linux, arch linux to be more specific. I build my system from a set of core packages
[13:51] <white_eagle> !mint
[13:51] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[13:51] <_Oz_> nthdegree: actually it's excellent in the security dept.
[13:51] <_Oz_> Try to find someone here who has virus or security problems with Ubuntu
[13:51] <_Oz_> bet you can't find one
[13:51] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: _Oz_ Mint is very similar to Ubuntu, but the GUI is a bit different, but can easily be swapped out o look like a regular gnome interface
[13:51] <_Oz_> those problems are virtually nonexistent with Ubuntu.
[13:51] <faileas> NthDegree: care to back that statement up? '[
[13:51] <faileas> ;p
[13:51] <NthDegree> white_eagle: yes you do.. another misconception.. you just don't need to do it that often, ext4 plans to bring in "Online Defragmentation" as a new feature for that reason :P
[13:52] <floppy-shuriken> but what so great about pclinuxos, how come it's more popular on distrowatch? :)
[13:52] <_Oz_> Is Mint considered a lightweight OS like Xubuntu or is it sorta heavy?
[13:52] <x3on> Is Networkmanager installed and enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[13:52] <Timmy> anyone knows why can't i play DVD on my laptop?
[13:52] <x3on> i tried configuring that thing by hand so many times and failed
[13:52] <dgjones> !dvd | Timmy
[13:52] <ubotu> Timmy: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:52] <x3on> awesome to see it working perfectly in mint
[13:52] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: not really heavy, but its Gnome....
[13:52] <white_eagle> NthDegree: but there was a place where I saw that linux doesn't need defragmenting
[13:52] <Andreysen> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7 on my Laptop at the moment. When I boot with the downloaded CD the startup screen pops up but the loading bar in the beginning freezes and I have to switch off the Laptop physically. Any ideas??
[13:52] <_Oz_> would it run roughly the same as Ubuntu?
[13:52] <damaltor> NthDegree: well.. woked partially. movies/mp3/... do well, but no system sounds. knotify asked my on this startup is i wnat do enable some other sound output, was to fas t so i klicked yes... could that be the error?
[13:52] <white_eagle> i think it was whylinuxisbetter.net
[13:53] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: yes, most likely
[13:53] <NthDegree> white_eagle: that's a half-truth
[13:53] <_Oz_> It really just looks like a wrapper for Ubuntu
[13:53] <NthDegree> it handles fragmentation better but lacks the ability to defrag properly
[13:53] <_Oz_> I see almost nothing that Ubuntu doesn't already do
[13:53] <white_eagle> NthDegree: thanks for that
[13:53] <Timmy> thank you jones
[13:53] <_Oz_> What's one advantage of Mint over Ubuntu?
[13:53] <compwiz18> mint has more stuff preinstalled, like codecs
[13:53] <Timmy> can someone tell me what is ubuntu? @_@
[13:53] <white_eagle> _Oz_: its all about a peoples will
[13:53] <NthDegree> faileas: I can't see any place that shows what proactive features Ubuntu uses at the moment
[13:53] <Pici> !ubuntu | Timmy
[13:53] <ubotu> Timmy: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <NthDegree> faileas: since hardened ubuntu keep asking for the things I mentioned every release i'll assume they're not in use yet
[13:54] <Timmy> oooh
[13:54] <white_eagle> if anyone needs direct rendering with ati ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589637
[13:54] <_Oz_> But why go with Mint?  It's one of those tangential spinoffs and not supported nearly as well as Ubuntu.  Seems your best bet these days for a Linux distro is Ubuntu or one of its flavors.  They're all supported.
[13:54] <Timmy> linux OS?
[13:54] <NthDegree> faileas: but I do thing the default config rocks! ^.^
[13:54] <Pici> Timmy: yes, Linux.
[13:54] <Timmy> the penguin symbol?
[13:54] <K-Ton> do you know what BSD distro is the best (easy to use) for a beginner?
[13:54] <damaltor> NthDegree: well.. woked partially. movies/mp3/... do well, but no system sounds. as said, knotify made me anable some other sound output. but now, kopete still has no sound while in system settings the "test sound system" button does well. any new idea? =)
[13:54] <IndyGunFreak> Timmy: do some google searching for Linux...
[13:54] <clemyeats> _Oz_: http://linuxmint.com/pub/Daryna_User_Guide-4.1.pdf (goes through specificities of Mint)
[13:54] <white_eagle> K-Ton: which
[13:54] <Alex> K-Ton: Try a BSD channel? :)
[13:54] <faileas> K-Ton: pc bsd
[13:54] <Timmy> I heard many people say linux suxk
[13:54] <Pici> !linux | Timmy
[13:54] <ubotu> Timmy: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[13:55] <NthDegree> damaltor: look at aRts
[13:55] <_Oz_> thank you, clemyeats.
[13:55] <K-Ton> thanks white_eagle & faileas
[13:55] <damaltor> NthDegree: yeah that was what knotify asked me to activate
[13:55] <Pici> Mint is offtopic for this channel. Please move discussion elsewhere, thanks.
[13:55] <faileas> NthDegree: yeah it does, and new things work all the time ;p
[13:55] <Timmy> like whats the difference between linux OS and regular OS ?
[13:55] <damaltor> NthDegree: so how can i configure/change that again?
[13:55] <Pici> Timmy: Read the link that Ubotu gave you, it should explain things better than we can.
[13:55] <white_eagle> Timmy: see the wikipedia page for linux please
[13:56] <NthDegree> K Menu > System Settings > Sound System
[13:56] <NthDegree> @ damaltor
[13:56] <_Oz_> Yeah, Mint appears to be a watered-down Ubuntu.  Nothing to see here.
[13:56] <_Oz_> Stick with Ubuntu, folks.
[13:56] <EbilPhish> Linux is a 'regular' OS
[13:56] <_Oz_> Timmy: Linux is open source.
[13:56] <NthDegree> faileas: it's the proactive security thing that made me use Fedora and/or CentOS for the last two years or so >.>
[13:56] <faileas> ubuntu+medibuntu+winehq wine pretty much covers it for me
[13:56] <Timmy> many people doesnt consider it regular os
[13:56] <damaltor> NthDegree: that works fine, there is a test button and i hear a melody...
[13:56] <Stagger> !it
[13:56] <_Oz_> Timmy: If by "regular" OS you mean "proprietary" such as Microsoft Windows, the difference is that there's a thriving community which supports Linux for free.
[13:56] <Andreysen> Hey guys! Need help: I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7 on my Laptop at the moment. When I boot with the downloaded CD the startup screen pops up and I choose option 1 to start/install Ubuntu. The loading bar in the next screen freezes and I have to switch off the Laptop physically. Any ideas??
[13:56] <Timmy> since linux works differently
[13:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:57] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: not really watered down, dumbed down... eveyr codec imaginable is installed, NTFS mounting tool is installed by default, lots of other things,. its good, i don't care for it, but its not bad
[13:57] <NthDegree> faileas: if Ubuntu starts with more proactive security it'll be the perfect distro in my eyes :D
[13:57] <EbilPhish> I'm not sure what is considered a irregular os, probably some of the experimental ones
[13:57] <_Oz_> Linux is more stable and performs better than Windows, Timmy.
[13:57] <cliebow> Andreysen, must have something to do with acpi..
[13:57] <Timmy> in what way?
[13:57] <faileas> NthDegree: well, fedora/centos seems to have a different target than ubuntu... i do suppose there's selinux as an option for ubuntu?
[13:57] <_Oz_> IndyGunFreak: NTFS is supported by default? I'd like that.
[13:57] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: its just as efficient as Ubuntu, it just looks different, the different menu system takes a bit to get used to...
[13:57] <faileas> EbilPhish: plan 9! ;p
[13:57] <_Oz_> I also like having all the codecs installed.
[13:57] <_Oz_> So, perhaps there is something to like about this "Mint".
[13:57] <Andreysen> ok. should I try using noacpi etc. at starup?
[13:57] <Pici> _Oz_: ntfs-3g is in Gutsy by default as well.
[13:57] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: yep...actually, Gutsy detected my NTFS partition by default to.... and mounts it no prob.
[13:57] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:58] <_Oz_> But...  is it supported like Ubuntu?  Can you install the same stuff that runs in Ubuntu, in mint?
[13:58] <Pici> !mint | _Oz_
[13:58] <ubotu> _Oz_: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[13:58] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: well, their support channel usually has all of... 20 people in there...lol
[13:58] <cliebow> Andreysen, give it a whirl..i can ask ogra if you need me to
[13:58] <_Oz_> Ah, so Mint is sufficiently different from Ubuntu.
[13:58] <_Oz_> Yeah, Ubuntu seems to be the wave to ride.
[13:58] <faileas> _Oz_: probably can use the same repos,but i kinda think its a little like, why get an apple from a box, when you can get it from a tree? ;p
[13:58] <NthDegree> faileas: not on about SELinux, I mean the other stuff, like compiling with all the security technologies available in gcc, adding in a good quality technology like ExecShield or PaX with the bits flipped so you need to flag binaries to enable rather than disable protection (so nothing breaks) and enhancing AppArmor
[13:59] <Andreysen> I'll give it a try cliebow, thanks for now
[13:59] <faileas> _Oz_: they got rnough things right ;p
[13:59] <_Oz_> faileas: precisely.
[13:59] <faileas> *enough
[13:59] <_Oz_> At least it's linux, but still...  Ubuntu has massive support and momentum.
[13:59] <damaltor> NthDegree: that works fine, there is a test button and i hear a melody...
[13:59] <_Oz_> Is it safe to say that these days, Ubuntu is the most popular and/or fastest growing Linux distro?
[13:59] <NthDegree> damaltor: oops sorry..
[13:59] <damaltor> np
[13:59] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: thats its appeal... its "Linux for Human beings"
[13:59] <NthDegree> damaltor: try the sound config for each sound
[13:59] <faileas> _Oz_: pretty much
[13:59] <faileas> and the disk service
[13:59] <NthDegree> see if testing those works
[13:59] <white_eagle> guys is deb better over rpm, or apt over yum, or reversly?
[13:59] <badboy> ciao
[13:59] <x3on> Is Networkmanager installed and enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[13:59] <cliebow> k
[13:59] <damaltor> NthDegree: what do you mean with each sound=
[13:59] <NthDegree> as in where you preview each sound
[13:59] <_Oz_> Very good.
[13:59] <damaltor> ?
[13:59] <white_eagle> x3on: yes
[13:59] <irony9999>  ciao a tutti e ben ritrovati
[14:00]  * faileas notes he's gotten a few people over by handing them the disks
[14:00] <geekahedron> good thing for all this massive support; i can't get my wireless card or ndiswrapper to work ^^
[14:00] <dgjones> !best | white_eagle
[14:00] <ubotu> white_eagle: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[14:00] <_Oz_> I hereby write Mint off as being a tangential waste of time.  STICK WITH UBUNTU.
[14:00] <EbilPhish> Does Gutsy have AppArmour enabled by default? And if not will 8.04?
[14:00] <NthDegree> damaltor: where you select what sound is made for each event
[14:00] <white_eagle> heh
[14:00] <faileas> x3on: on gutsy, yes, and it supports WPA ;p
[14:00] <perhamlinux> hello guys
[14:00] <NthDegree> click the play button on each event and see if they work
[14:00] <white_eagle> I was asking for your opinion
[14:00] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: its a matter of opinion, personally, I think .deb/apt is lightyears better than rpm/yum.. but its all opinion
[14:00] <white_eagle> not for the best
[14:00] <NthDegree> EbilPhish: has it enabled for a single daemon yeah
[14:00] <damaltor> NthDegree: in kopete you mean? opened it, but if i press play on a selected file i hear nothing
[14:00] <NthDegree> cups
[14:00] <floppy-shuriken> pacman :)
[14:00] <NthDegree> damaltor: no on Sound System Settings
[14:01] <damaltor> k
[14:01] <Stagger> hello, whenever i try to import mpc files into rhythmbox i get the error saying that it cant find the GStreamer plugin for musepack. I think i have installed the musepack plugins, how do i find out if there is something i am missing. thanks a lot!
[14:01] <NthDegree> if Test Sound works
[14:01] <NthDegree> then move on to Notifications
[14:01] <geekahedron> if i just downloaded ndiswrapper 1.52 from their site, should i be getting make errors
[14:01] <NthDegree> on the System Settings bit
[14:01] <white_eagle> geekahedron: just curious, what wireless card do you have?
[14:01] <perhamlinux> I configured my Ubuntu to do NAT. and in my windows PC I can ping external ips, but I can't browse anything and no program seems to understand that I'm connected. any ideas?
[14:01] <zaggy-nl> Anyone here with a creative x-fi sound card?
[14:01] <IndyGunFreak> _Oz_: lol, i don't know about waste of time.. its just kinda dumbed down for people who want everything to work right away, and require very little configuring.
[14:02] <cliebow> IndyGunFreak, takes all the fun out oif it huh!
[14:02] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux: Can you ping by hostnames, ie google.com?
[14:02] <NthDegree> IndyGunFreak: I think RPM has more features than DEB and can handle arches better
[14:02] <NthDegree> that's just me
[14:02] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how to access cdrom in ubuntu via webmin?
[14:02] <perhamlinux> let's see
[14:02] <IndyGunFreak> problem is, if there's something you don't know how to do, its tough to figure out on your own, and their support channel is well, a ghost town.. at least it was a few months ago.
[14:02] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: I don't use webmin so no idea
[14:02] <Laney_Family> Q. can you execute a msi in ubuntu?
[14:02] <perhamlinux> no
[14:02] <IndyGunFreak> NthDegree: its a matter of opinion i guess... i freakin hate yum
[14:02] <arekkusu> Stagger:　in Add/remove application you should have "GStreamer plugins for mms, wavpack, quicktime, musepack"
[14:02] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: its sad, but i tend to pick distros by support channels
[14:03] <faileas> Laney_Family: no
[14:03] <damaltor> NthDegree: ok, sound was disabled there. if i use the "kde sound system" it does not work, i can hear sounds if is use the external mplayer... thats a workaround so far, but nit waht i expected :( how can i reactivate the sound system / change the thing i activated before?
[14:03] <Laney_Family> augh... didnt think so...
[14:03] <perhamlinux> is that the problem? DNS?
[14:03] <perhamlinux> what should I do then?
[14:03] <faileas> Laney_Family: even in wine
[14:03]  * faileas thinks MSI needs microsoft installer
[14:03] <geekahedron> white_eagle: it's a dell d630; broadcom bcm94311mcg wlan mini-pci (rev 01)
[14:03] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how about in the terminal? How to access cdrom drive?
[14:03] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: not really sad, you're just predicting problems, want to make sure you can get help... better than diving head first into a pool w/o water
[14:03] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Probably, how are you assigning ip addresses? Normally the DNS is assigned with them
[14:03] <cliebow> perhamlinux, does /etc/resolv.conf show you what params dns runs on?
[14:03] <Laney_Family> Faileas: what is wine?
[14:04] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: depends on the device file for the cdrom
[14:04] <faileas> Laney_Family: it lets you run some windows apps in linux
[14:04] <EbilPhish> !wine
[14:04] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[14:04] <IndyGunFreak> Laney_Family: http://www.winehq.com
[14:04] <NthDegree> try mkdir /media/cdrom && mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[14:04] <perhamlinux> wait
[14:04] <NthDegree> @ rhineheart_m
[14:04] <Stagger> arekkesu: actually i cannot see
[14:04] <prince_jammys> can't you just do ls /media/cdrom ?
[14:04] <white_eagle> Laney_Family: its still an alpha release
[14:04] <NthDegree> prince_jammys: only if he has a desktop with HAL running on it
[14:05] <NthDegree> and one single drive
[14:05] <white_eagle> so don't expect plenty
[14:05] <Laney_Family> wow, now that is a response to a Q. LOL
[14:05] <djibuti> hello
[14:05] <NthDegree> white_eagle: BETA ;)
[14:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[14:05] <white_eagle> :)
[14:05] <white_eagle> alpha, beta, gama
[14:05] <white_eagle> :D
[14:05] <NthDegree> 0.9.x is BETA.. but that doesn't make it any better ;-p
[14:05] <djibuti> can anyone tell me how to apply backport to tremulous?
[14:05] <damaltor> NthDegree: ok, sound was disabled there. if i use the "kde sound system" it does not work, i can hear sounds if is use the external mplayer... thats a workaround so far, but nit waht i expected :( how can i reactivate the sound system / change the thing i activated before?
[14:05] <IndyGunFreak> djibuti: are you trying to install tremulous?
[14:05] <NthDegree> damaltor: i'm not sure there
[14:05] <mous16> hi to all. there is a way to obtain the directory tree of a web-site?
[14:06] <djibuti> nope only the backport
[14:06] <NthDegree> try Sound System and see if it is loaded
[14:06] <NthDegree> if it is then disable it and click Apply
[14:06] <NthDegree> then enable it and click Apply again
[14:06] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: how about to display all the files in the cdrom drive? what's the command?
[14:06] <IndyGunFreak> djibuti: well, i don't know what the tremlous backport is.
[14:06] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: cd /media/cdrom && ls
[14:06] <damaltor> NthDegree: maybe its time for reinstalling... usually something i never did in linux, but i collected a heap of shit on my hdd anyway.. maybe ill look what i really need, and make up the system new =)
[14:06] <NthDegree> then cd into whatever dir you're looking for from there
[14:07] <djibuti> IndyGunFreak: ok, it says there to just overwrite the executable with an x86 file that I have to download somewhere. But I dont know where the executable is
[14:07] <djibuti> I mean i dont know where it is in my pc
[14:08] <IndyGunFreak> djibuti: i imagine in ./tremulous  but thats a guess.
[14:08] <white_eagle> djibuti: its in your home directory
[14:08] <perhamlinux> EbilPhish , cliebow OK, now I'm using /etc/resolv.conf DNSes and it works fine, nut I did it manually. my dhcp seems not to work
[14:08] <danbhfive> djibuti: i have a tutorial to update tremulous to 1.2 backport
[14:08] <white_eagle> just enter your home directory
[14:08] <cliebow> Andreysen, im hanging in #ltsp
[14:08] <eMxyzptlk> Hello guys, there was a tutorial way back on how to create a small shell without borders, anyone remember where is it? I just need the name of the gnome daemon that allows specific windows preferences (not Emerald nor metacity)
[14:08] <white_eagle> and press Ctrl-H
[14:09] <Pici> eMxyzptlk: devilspie
[14:09] <djibuti> danbhfive' ok how?
[14:09] <tux_> Hello. igot my brand new laptop today.. a Hp pavilion dv9000 series.. I tried to start the ubuntu 7.10 amd64 disc but my screen went black.. what can i do
[14:09] <eMxyzptlk> Pici, oh thank you ...
[14:09] <danbhfive> djibuti: but at this point, that tutorial might be a little hard to access, its part of a project im working on
[14:09] <IndyGunFreak> white_eagle: its not there, i just looked.
[14:09] <geekahedron> white_eagle: i have a bunch of errors just trying to `make` the ndiswrapper
[14:09] <perhamlinux> do you have any Idea how can i run dhcp server in ubuntu.
[14:09] <white_eagle> geekahedron: do you have all dependencies installd?
[14:10] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Did the dhcp assign another nameserver, perhaps itself instead of an isp one?
[14:10] <white_eagle> dependencies for compiling***
[14:10] <djibuti> dambhfive: may i know how i could access it?
[14:10] <Timmy> oh so linux is basically some sort of OS thats good in making codes for program and gaming?
[14:10] <geekahedron> white_eagle: how do i check?
[14:10] <Timmy> the desktop sucks
[14:10] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ndiswrapper is in the repositories, why are you compiling it?
[14:10] <white_eagle> Timmy: no
[14:10] <white_eagle> geekahedron: wait
[14:10] <white_eagle> a sec
[14:10] <cliebow> perhamlinux, i cant keep track in here..ill be over in #ltsp where at least i can get insulted..
[14:10] <Laney_Family> ok, well, i think if done one of my first instalations, wine
[14:10] <Laney_Family> ive rather
[14:10] <danbhfive> djibuti: well, you can join #climl   but im trying to figure an easier way for ya
[14:10] <tdawgedogg> oh shit guys i got my first error ever using ubuntu
[14:11] <IndyGunFreak> Timmy: you've been given lots of links to learn about linux and ubuntu, read them, asking questions here further is silly
[14:11] <white_eagle> Laney_Family: go to the about of wine
[14:11] <Laney_Family> ???
[14:11] <white_eagle> see if it says 0.9.55
[14:11] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: i was explicitly told to download from ndiswrapper and not from the repos
[14:11] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ok...
[14:11] <Timmy> can i have the link again?
[14:11] <Laney_Family> its at 65 % now
[14:11] <white_eagle> Laney_Family: to see do you have the latest version
[14:11] <djibuti> danbhfive: ok
[14:11] <Timmy> !linux
[14:11] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[14:11] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Personally I like dnsmasq, for my home server its fairly simple
[14:11] <tdawgedogg> in mplayer im playing a 1080p movie and I get an error that says to many frames in the buffer what does that mean
[14:11] <Laney_Family> i did it via the terminal and added it to the apt to keep it updated..
[14:11] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper"
[14:11] <Laney_Family> but yes, after it finishes ill do that
[14:11] <white_eagle> thanks IndyGunFreak
[14:11] <djibuti> Timmy: Linux will PWN windows in the near future
[14:11] <white_eagle> for saving me time
[14:11] <EbilPhish> perhamlinux:  Has a dhcp server in it
[14:12] <Timmy> how do you mean?
[14:12] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: that command will do a dependency check on the ndiswrapper in the repos, then install them, then that should resolve dependencies for the version you're trying to compile
[14:12] <perhamlinux> my ubuntu is connecting fine, but dhcp iun windows even couldn't assign right address with ubuntu
[14:12] <Laney_Family> Q. where do you guys learn these commands???
[14:12] <danbhfive> djibuti: pm?
[14:12] <Pici> !usage | Laney_Family
[14:12] <ubotu> Laney_Family: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:12] <perhamlinux> my ubunbtu is 192.168.0.1
[14:12] <djibuti> danbhfive: ok
[14:12] <geekahedron> "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"
[14:12] <white_eagle> perhamlinux: ???
[14:12] <geekahedron> just a sec
[14:12] <dgjones> Timmy, you might be better joining #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat about Linux/Ubuntu, this channel is for problem solving and help, rather than discussions
[14:12] <Laney_Family> LOL,
[14:12] <Laney_Family> nice PICI
[14:12] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: open up synaptic
[14:12] <white_eagle> oh
[14:12] <Timmy> most people loved either windows or mac
[14:12] <tux_> Hello. igot my brand new laptop today.. a Hp pavilion dv9000 series.. I tried to start the ubuntu 7.10 amd64 disc but my screen went black.. what can i do
[14:12] <white_eagle> ok, never mind perhamlinux
[14:12] <tdawgedogg> in mplayer im playing a 1080p movie and I get an error that says to many frames in the buffer what does that mean
[14:13] <bazhang> Laney_Family: you do it after awhile and it comes naturally--debian basied ones are especially good with the apt-get commmands to run
[14:13] <bazhang> err commands even
[14:13] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: did you open synaptic?
[14:13] <white_eagle> tux_: is your processor 64bit?
[14:13] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  By using them, following howto etc...
[14:13] <perhamlinux> ok. i download it. apt-get right?
[14:13] <djibuti> danbhfive: i have yet to register
[14:13] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  And looking at man pages
[14:13] <danbhfive> djibuti: then just join #climl
[14:13] <Pici> I think he meant the bot commands...
[14:13] <bazhang> perhamlinux: sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:13] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: yes
[14:13] <Laney_Family> lol, ok, if you guys ever need help on Server 2000-2003 lemme know,
[14:13] <x3on> Anybody used an iPod touch with Amarok?
[14:14] <tux_> yess
[14:14] <white_eagle> tux_: exactly what happens
[14:14] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: click settings menu, then reposotiories, ont he first tab, make sure everything is checked on the top(including source code).. then close, and reload
[14:14] <bazhang> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod x3on this may help
[14:14] <white_eagle> tell me what exatly happens
[14:14] <perhamlinux> thanks everyone. bazhang, I'm not that newbie!! :D thanks anyway! :)
[14:14] <perhamlinux> bye
[14:14] <EbilPhish> cya
[14:15] <threefcata> hi, how to configure wpa wifi with a static ip? i changed /etc/../interface but it does not work?
[14:15] <bazhang> oops sorry perhamlinux; misread your question ;]
[14:15] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  Default Ubuntu Desktop installs use Network Manager, its the icon on the top right
[14:15] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: did you do that?
[14:15] <white_eagle> hey bazhang
[14:15] <bazhang> heya white_eagle
[14:15] <Stagger> arekkesu: thanks, that fixed it!
[14:15] <Stagger> :)
[14:16] <threefcata> EbilPhish: but it seems it does not support WPA?
[14:16] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: yes
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ok, now close synaptic.
[14:16] <white_eagle> got that direct rendering to work bazhang ?
[14:16] <tux_> when i press start or install or safemodus the ubuntu seems to startup.. but my screen is black... as in sleep modus.. when i press poweroff its read from the cd and it eject
[14:16] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: done
[14:16] <tux_>  NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8400M GS
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: then go back to the terminal, and run "sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper"
[14:16] <rilo> Soo, how can I enter extended ASCII given default keyboard settings for a US 105-key generic keyboard? It's actually a laptop keyboard and I would have to use Fn to simulate the keypad
[14:16] <Pici> tux_: Have you treid the Alternate CD?
[14:16] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: i did .. it's asking for my disc
[14:16] <bazhang> white_eagle: when I get an ATI card I will ;]
[14:17] <Pici> !alt | tux_
[14:17] <ubotu> tux_: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:17] <white_eagle> oh
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: ok, well, thats annoying.
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: open synaptic again.
[14:17] <white_eagle> bazhang: it wasn;t you
[14:17] <Syntax> When i boot to ubuntu, and try to use a wired connection to get on the internet, firefox never finds a homepage, even though it says its sending and recieving packets.
[14:17] <white_eagle> ;)
[14:17] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: ok
[14:17] <white_eagle> it was bascul*
[14:17] <tux_> okay thx
[14:17] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  I think its being planned, you might need to use wpa_supplicant or something
[14:17] <white_eagle> I don't want to disturb him
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: settings menu/repositories.. at the bottom, where it says, "installable from CD-Rom".. uncheck the box, close and reload
[14:18] <IndyGunFreak> thast one feature i wish ubuntu didnm't have, to windowish, but i know its for folks on dial up
[14:18] <GSK> someone know VMware on Ubuntu ?
[14:18] <Andeh> hey, did flash break again?
[14:18] <threefcata> EbilPhish: yeah, i think so, too. how to use wpa_supplicant?
[14:18] <white_eagle> Andeh: no
[14:18] <bazhang> yes GSK ;] what is your question?
[14:18] <Andeh> it worked yesterday
[14:18] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: now it's going
[14:18] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[14:18] <white_eagle> Andeh: do sudon apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:18] <AckerMANn> hellow I have one problem with ubuntu 7.10 server. When i type: sudo su - the linux show me on cli an error.. who can help me ?
[14:18] <white_eagle> sudo*
[14:18] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: when its done... you *should* be able to compile ndiswrapper w/o issue
[14:19] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: how about sudo -i  ?
[14:19] <rilo> what is the equivalent of "ipconfig /renew" in Windows? Is it "dhcpclient"?
[14:19] <Andeh> white_eagle: I have it already. Even youtube knows that, it doesnt say I need it, it just gives me a big empty space where the swf content should be
[14:19] <Andeh> white_eagle: I'll try reinstalling tho
[14:19] <white_eagle> Andeh: thats weird
[14:19] <bazhang> GSK: or was that the totality of your question ;]
[14:19] <white_eagle> ok
[14:19] <faileas> GSK: host or guest?
[14:19] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  I don't really know the Ubuntu specifics but you need to edit /etc/wpasupplicant.conf and add your networks to it, I assume you might need to disable network manager to stop it from overriding stuff
[14:19] <Muschifurz> cliebow: tried installin with noacpi and noapic seperately and together...still freezes?! :-(
[14:19] <EbilPhish> !wpa
[14:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:19] <GSK> i watn to configure vmnet on mode bridged
[14:19] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: any program thats in the repositories, but you need the updated version, or a compiled version.. running that build-dep program  basically just tells ubuntu to build the dependencies for it, which should make compiling the source easy, assuming the dependencies for the version you're wanting to compile, are the same as the verison in the repos(usually it is, its never let me down)
[14:20] <GSK> sorry for my poor english
[14:20] <white_eagle> guys I can undeline text with _underline_ bold it with *bold*, can I italic it?
[14:20] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: error... sendmail: ... I can`t paste here.. if you want to view the error tell me where i can paste it.
[14:20] <danbhfive> !paste | AckerMANn
[14:20] <ubotu> AckerMANn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:20] <threefcata> EbilPhish: hmm, ok seems i need a bit of google on that..
[14:20] <threefcata> EbilPhish: thx anyway
[14:20] <Pici> white_eagle: This channel is set +c, so its actually your client thinking that the text is bold or underlined because you used * & _
[14:20] <GSK> on my host i have two cards one wifi and the other ethernet
[14:20] <Andeh> yay flash works now.
[14:20] <white_eagle> Pici: I know that but can I italic the text?
[14:21] <Pici> white_eagle: You'd have to check your client's documentation.
[14:21] <EbilPhish> threefcata:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo seems to indicate wpa works with network manager
[14:21] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: done, I pressed the paste button.
[14:21] <Muschifurz> Hey guys! Need help: I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7 on my Laptop at the moment. When I boot with the downloaded CD the startup screen pops up and I choose option 1 to start/install Ubuntu. The loading bar in the next screen freezes and I have to switch off the Laptop physically. Any ideas?? Tried installing with noacpi and noapic
[14:21] <Laney_Family> ok guys, stange Q., When i installed edubuntu all my devices worked correctly, even my old wireless card (not that old), but when I installed ubuntu server then added the ubuntu desktop gui, the wireless is not there? any ideas, i mean I thought they were all the same with diff configurations
[14:22] <white_eagle> Pici: is wubi recommended for begginers? (just curious)
[14:22]  * avaloncio is away: Estoy ocupado
[14:22] <white_eagle> !wubi
[14:22] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[14:22] <lynghoej> hello all
[14:22]  * avaloncio is back (gone 00:00:03)
[14:22] <IndyGunFreak> Muschifurz: first guess would be to reburn the CD, SLOW...
[14:22] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  Did you install the ubuntu-desktop package?
[14:22] <cliebow> Muschifurz, what model lappie?
[14:22] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: i think you need to post a link in chat
[14:22] <Pici> !away > avaloncio (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:22] <Pici> white_eagle: Depends on their setup.
[14:22] <faileas> white_eagle: hell yes.however the website addie there is wrong
[14:22] <EbilPhish> Laney_Family:  Perhaps you need to install network-manager
[14:22] <bazhang> Laney_Family: you may need to enable the driver in the restricted drivers manager--what card is it? can you access the machine presently?
[14:22] <cliebow> Muschifurz, good point..the cd is highly compressed and is oicky about burn
[14:23] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: this link ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56744/report/
[14:23] <voltage> Morning all
[14:23] <white_eagle> I dunno if I should install ubuntu at my friend with wubi or usually, so I don't mess up something
[14:23] <Laney_Family> Baz, yes, im on the rig now, how do i findout the details on the card?
[14:23] <white_eagle> usually = with the live cd
[14:23] <Laney_Family> i a bit vauge on its specs
[14:23] <avaloncio> Pici, soz, i didnt want to do that
[14:23] <AquaFox|Laptop> I played with nvidia-config and now my game won't start up in 640x480 resolution because that doesn't exsit in Xorg
[14:23] <AquaFox|Laptop> I run an nvidia card.
[14:23] <AquaFox|Laptop> What to do?
[14:24] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: yeah, i dunno.  but you did paste the error, maybe someone else knows
[14:24] <EbilPhish> white_eagle: wubi hasn't seemed that good to me slow and such, if your careful you shouldn't break anything (and you can probally do as much damange with wubi anyway)
[14:24] <bazhang> Laney_Family: open up a terminal and type lspci if it is internal and lsusb if it a usb dongle then tell us the precise model here--no need to paste, just something like broadcomm 43xx or the like
[14:24] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: because wubi isn't that good.
[14:24] <QuickGold> Can anyone recommend a great looking, robust IM client similiar to Adium?
[14:24] <threefcata> EbilPhish: i read that page before, it doesn't say if wpa works with network manager or not, it's just about how to configure the wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:24] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: white_eagle likes to see how much bad advice he can hand out in a day
[14:25] <IndyGunFreak> EbilPhish: at what speed did you burn the disk?
[14:25] <Laney_Family> ok doing that now baz
[14:25] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: man but .. this is the response of ubuntu when i give sudo su - command. want i need to do to resolve it ?
[14:25] <Laney_Family> and no its internal, otherwise id just read it
[14:25] <GSK> so for vmware ?
[14:25] <danbhfive> AckerMANn: well, obviously there is something wrong with the sendmail setup, but I have no idea how to fix that
[14:25] <GSK> want to configure mode bridged for virtual machines
[14:26] <GSK> but it doesn't work
[14:26] <AckerMANn> danbhfive: 10x man ... :((
[14:26] <EbilPhish> QuickGold:  Anything wrong with Pidgin?
[14:26] <geekahedron> okay so .. now that i *think* my wireless card drivers are there, how can i use it?
[14:26] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: try sudo -i <enter>  then your commands  .. when you are done, type "exit"
[14:26] <bazhang> GSK: have you installed vmware from the repos? it  is in the canonical gutsy partner as far as I remember
[14:27] <wolfey> i have problem with this it says fixed released, but up-to-date gutsy doesnt have this fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530/+viewstatus
[14:27] <nox-Hand> ½product: 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[14:27] <nox-Hand> product: 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[14:27] <wolfey> what can i do?
[14:27] <GSK> i install it by repos (that mean like make install ...etc)
[14:27] <nox-Hand> Oops, sorry about double paste -- can someone help me get video drivers working for that for OpenGL?
[14:27] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: man ... i tryed sudo -i <enter> and ...: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56746/plain/
[14:27] <IndyGunFreak> QuickGold: pidgin really is the best IM client.
[14:27] <white_eagle> !bug#1
[14:27] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[14:27] <Laney_Family> ok i ran the lspci command, im not seeing it..... oddle enough....
[14:27] <wolfey> IndyGunFreak: lol, AMSN is best
[14:28] <white_eagle> wolfey: try emesene
[14:28] <GSK> i'am french so i don't have a good english but on the french channel nobody can help me
[14:28] <QuickGold> my problem with pidgin is it looks like poop
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> wolfey: lol, matter of opinion i gues.
[14:28] <white_eagle> if you like
[14:28] <bazhang> GSK: make install means you compiled it correct? the typical way of doing it from the repos is sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:28] <Laney_Family> i am however showing 2 ether cards when there is only one
[14:28] <wolfey> white_eagle: emesene?
[14:28] <white_eagle> wolfey: yeah, wait a sec
[14:28] <white_eagle> I'll give you a link
[14:28] <white_eagle> it isn't in the repos
[14:28] <wolfey> i have exactly same problem as this ubuntu bug report, says fix released, but up-to-date gutsy doesnt have this fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530/+viewstatus
[14:28] <K-Ton> IndyGunFreak & wolfey : only for the msn protocol, my favourite is Mercury
[14:28] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: personally i prefer kopete, but pidgin is great ;p
[14:28] <bazhang> Laney_Family: what is the second one's make and model?
[14:28] <white_eagle> wolfey: emesene.org
[14:28] <wolfey> who can i annoy with this?
[14:29] <GSK> bazhang no i install it by a script after uncompress it
[14:29] <white_eagle> add emesene to your repos
[14:29] <faileas> K-Ton: thats the java one with video support isn't ot?
[14:29] <white_eagle> and install it with apt-get install emesene
[14:29] <white_eagle> its nice and not cluttered
[14:29] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: kopete has the same problem for me, that kDE does.. its freakin ugly, and looksl ike its GUI was set by a 4yr old.
[14:29] <K-Ton> faileas yes it's using java
[14:29] <wolfey> white_eagle: i dont need another messenger
[14:29] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: does that file exist?  type :  file  /etc/postfix/main.cf
[14:29] <GSK> ./vmware-install.pl something like this
[14:29] <wolfey> i want to make this inkjey print
[14:29] <wolfey> i have exactly same problem as this ubuntu bug report, says fix released, but up-to-date gutsy doesnt have this fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/155530/+viewstatus
[14:29] <wolfey> where can i get goddamn fix, you binary distro
[14:30] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: i love KDE ;p
[14:30] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: no man isn`t exist.
[14:30] <jrib> wolfey: have you enabled gutsy-updates?
[14:30] <white_eagle> wolfey: ;) i told you about it because you said you like amsn
[14:30] <white_eagle> nevermind though
[14:30] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: i'd rather give Rosie O'Donnell a pair of golf cleats, and let her stomp on my face, than use KDE..
[14:30] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: that's the problem :)
[14:30] <white_eagle> bye guys
[14:30] <wolfey> jrib: yes
[14:30] <bazhang> GSK: aha--well it is now in the repos so that is not needed; all I did was install it from the repos then download the free key from vmware's site to get it going--the bridged mode was something I chose in the setup
[14:31] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: how i can resolve it ?
[14:31] <jrib> wolfey: pastebin the result of 'apt-cache policy cupsys'
[14:31] <Laney_Family> so any ideas?
[14:31] <DiploCat> does anyone know if there's a fix for the Xorg process spiraling out of control after a few hours of idleness?
[14:31] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: i've used gnome, CDE, KDE and a few windows shells. wierdly CDE is my fav, but KDE is the one i use most ;p
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> faileas: i guess thats the beauty of Linux, you're not stuck with what they say is best.
[14:32] <centyx> Hi. Could anyone tell me what Ubuntu pacakge adds the group 'admin' to /etc/group?
[14:32] <faileas> IndyGunFreak: yup, and they let you know it
[14:32] <bazhang> Laney_Family: well what are the names of the cards you get from lspci--we can narrow it down a bit that way
[14:32] <wolfey> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m58a822f
[14:32] <Laney_Family> baz, ok one sec
[14:32] <|WolF|> question: how to install tcl on ubuntu?
[14:32] <bazhang> !info tcl
[14:32] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in gutsy
[14:33] <Laney_Family> multitasking, trien to fix this and get remote to work ;)
[14:33] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: i don't know, looks like you have to find a guide on how to configure postfix
[14:33] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: ok man .. thanks
[14:33] <jrib> wolfey: then you have the fixed package.  If you just installed it and it is not working reboot.  If you still have the bug, comment on the tracker
[14:34] <Laney_Family> 1st: atheros communications, inc. ar5212/ar5213 multiprotocol mac/baseband processsor
[14:34] <wolfey> jrib ok
[14:34] <wolfey> thx
[14:34] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: I got this error: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using example.com  for ServerName
[14:34] <Laney_Family> 2nd: admteck nc100 network everwhere fast ethernet 10/100
[14:34] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: check this out, maybe this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[14:34] <Laney_Family> baz, does that help any?
[14:34] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, a warning
[14:35] <Laney_Family> i mean i could boot into the edubuntu and check its list.... find the diff.
[14:35] <Stavros> any idea why i don't have ifconfig on my system?
[14:35] <bazhang> what is the second Laney_Family
[14:35] <Stavros> or, well, which package it's in
[14:35] <rhineheart_m> cliebow: how to solve it?
[14:35] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, you can edit httpd.conf and change srevername
[14:35] <bazhang> Laney_Family: that would work too ;]
[14:35] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: man .. i tryed .. dpkg-reconfigure postfix , but ..tells me that commands need to be run by root, and .. when : sudo su - .. same error ... :)) i can`t belive.
[14:36] <Laney_Family> baz, second: admteck nc100 network everwhere fast ethernet 10/100
[14:36] <poppycock> http://s1.gladiatus.lt/game/c.php?uid=42948
[14:36] <Laney_Family> baz, thats all it gives me
[14:36] <erawfish_> Stavros: you do have it. /sbin/ifconfig
[14:36] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: you don't need sudo su - .   just do  sudo dpkg-blahblah
[14:36] <erawfish_> Laney_Family: lspci -n gives more
[14:36] <Stavros> erawfish_: ah, thanks, odd
[14:36] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, errr apache2.conf
[14:36] <Pici> poppycock: ?
[14:36] <erawfish_> Stavros: not odd. normal
[14:36] <wers> how do I send group messages using pidgin? :)
[14:36] <Laney_Family> ok, should I run that baz, i mean will that help you any? the lspci -n?
[14:36] <Stavros> erawfish_: i mean it not running was odd
[14:37] <erawfish_> Stavros: if you doN#t give the proper path, not odd
[14:37] <rhineheart_m> cliebow: what do you mean?
[14:37] <Stavros> erawfish_: it's usually in PATH...
[14:37] <bazhang> Laney_Family: then the atheros is the wifi one--does the restricted driver manager not list it? what does ifconfig and iwconfig return in the terminal? better to briefly describe instead of pasting here
[14:37] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: same error: sendmail: fatal: open/ ...... :-?? when i put sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[14:37] <erawfish_> Stavros: never was on ubuntu nor debian
[14:37] <erawfish_> Stavros: /sbin is only on root's path
[14:37] <mykorrhiza> Hello I have a problem with the cd-drive on my laptop, I cant mount anything. But in recovery mode it works but not the automounting.
[14:37] <Laney_Family> baz, lol sorry
[14:37] <Stavros> erawfish_: that's odd, i always run it without the path and it always works
[14:37] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: back now
[14:37] <erawfish_> mykorrhiza: what if you mount manually with "mount"?
[14:38] <Laney_Family> baz, still rather new at this, umm, ok soo run if config and iwconfig?
[14:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: ignore that.. it's not a major issue
[14:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: Set a ServerName in apache2.conf if you like
[14:38] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: have you tried reinstalling postfix?
[14:38] <mykorrhiza> only works in recovery mode
[14:38] <cliebow> rhineheart_m, like HthDegree says..
[14:38] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree: okay.. thanks.. but I got this message that my sendmail is not working properly
[14:38] <Laney_Family> baz, how do i access the restricted driver manager?
[14:38] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: or set it in enabled-sites/default-000
[14:38] <bazhang> Laney_Family: yup, but with no gaps: ifconfig and iwconfig--and we were all new not that long ago ;]
[14:38] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: no man, I`m beginner ... you can tell me how i can reinstall postfix ? :) or give me a tutorial..
[14:39] <NthDegree> rhineheart_m: apache2 is the webserver
[14:39] <mykorrhiza> It says bad superblock or fs type
[14:39] <NthDegree> what is the issue with sendmail?
[14:39] <Piet> hi all. is  it better to install tomcat manually or via apt-get? on ubuntu
[14:39] <Jockeo> Using my ubuntu machine, what is the easiest/best way to control my friends Windows XP desktop? Preferably he should be able to see what I do, so he can learn, but that is not necessary.
[14:39] <NthDegree> (I suck with sendmail by the way)#
[14:39] <erawfish_> mykorrhiza: dmesg |grep CD
[14:39] <GSK> VMware bridged mode, someone can help me ? To configure it on my laptop. I want to bridged vmnet 1 on eth0 and vmnet 2 on eth1
[14:39] <NthDegree> Jockeo: an RDP client
[14:39] <bazhang> Laney_Family: that should show up if it using the restricted drivers for graphics, wireless etc.; if it is part of the kernel or open source then it will not show up there
[14:39] <mykorrhiza> ok
[14:39] <NthDegree> Jockeo: or if not that install a VNC server on his machine and use a VNC client
[14:39] <erawfish_> NthDegree: way too complicated and unneeded in 99% of cases
[14:39] <Laney_Family> baz, ok, um i ran the ifconfig and it has 2 items listed , one eth0 other lo, i dont know what this info is however...
[14:40] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: i don't know about postfix, but let me see if i can find something.  it may be that the first link above is actually what reinstalls postfix, but it isnt working for you.
[14:40] <NthDegree> erawfish_: that is the secure way]
[14:40] <Codenut> how do I downgrade from gutsy back to feisty?
[14:40] <erawfish_> Jockeo: vnc
[14:40] <Kibbles> having trouble setting up my screen so it has correct refresh rate
[14:40] <Jockeo> NthDegree: Is it easiest for him if I use an RDP client? Will he need to install anything then?
[14:40] <bazhang> Laney_Family: eth0 is the wired and lo is loopback
[14:40] <erawfish_> NthDegree: postfix or exim4
[14:40] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: i`m waiting.
[14:40] <dgjones> !downgrade | Codenut, You'll need to reinstall, downgrades aren't supported
[14:40] <ubotu> Codenut, You'll need to reinstall, downgrades aren't supported: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[14:40] <NthDegree> Jockeo: RDP is the protocol of Remote Assistance =]
[14:40] <rhineheart_m> NthDegree:  Restarting Mail Transport Agent (MTA) sendmail/ start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/sbin/sendmail-mta: No such file or directory (No such file or directory) /etc/init.d/sendmail: line 296:
[14:40] <erawfish_> NthDegree: but won't solve his problem
[14:41] <Laney_Family> baz, ok so the wireless is not listed, right?
[14:41] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: dpkg -l|grep sendmail
[14:41] <bazhang> Laney_Family: sadly correct
[14:41] <mykorrhiza>    32.717455] hdc: UJDA730 DVD/CDRW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[14:41] <mykorrhiza> [   33.547493] hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[14:41] <mykorrhiza> [   33.547510] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[14:41] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: most likely you had sendmail incstalled once but didn't purge but only remove
[14:41] <Laney_Family> baz, sadly? so what do i do?
[14:42] <NthDegree> erawfish_: oh why's that?
[14:42] <Kibbles> any1 care to look at my xorg.conf @ http://www.pastebin.ca/911118
[14:42] <Kibbles> and tell me where I went wrong....
[14:42] <erawfish_> NthDegree: cause when rdp is active the XP users won't see a thing
[14:42] <Codenut> grrr, going from an update stable (gutsy) to an older version (7.04) seems kind of dumb. OHHHH well
[14:42] <Piet> hi all. is  it better to install tomcat manually or via apt-get? on ubuntu
[14:42] <NthDegree> erawfish_: on remote assistance the XP users can see everything that occurs just like on VNC
[14:42] <erawfish_> Piet: only via apt-get is supported here
[14:42] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: right now i'm looking at this: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#install_distro
[14:43] <Piet> ok
[14:43] <rhineheart_m> ii  sendmail-base                         8.14.1-8ubuntu1          powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[14:43] <rhineheart_m> rc  sendmail-bin                          8.14.1-8ubuntu1          powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[14:43] <rhineheart_m> ii  sendmail-cf                           8.14.1-8ubuntu1          powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[14:43] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: you have removed sendmail is shown here. why do you want to use sendmail?
[14:43] <bazhang> Laney_Family: the wireless was working in the edubuntu install? and then you installed ubuntu-server (which of course has no wireless option) and put ubuntu-desktop on top of that? that would be the issue=if you did the reverse; installed ubuntu then added server components (lamp eg) it would include the wireless components
[14:43] <Piet> erawfish_ you recommend apt-get?
[14:43] <erawfish_> Piet: aptitude or synaptic
[14:43] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: wait a second please.
[14:43] <Piet> erawfish_ why those?
[14:44] <Laney_Family> baz, ;(
[14:44] <InsClusoe> Hi all.. I have problems playing .VOB files and .flv files with vlc on feisty. It's able to play mp3 files, though.
[14:44] <NthDegree> Piet: they are easier to use mostly
[14:44] <mykorrhiza> Does that seem ok?
[14:44] <erawfish_> Piet: cause they are the default ways to install stuff
[14:44] <rhineheart_m> erawfish_: I want to use it in registration confirmation in my drupal site
[14:44] <Piet> allright.
[14:44] <bazhang> Laney_Family: you can test this out by running the ubuntu live cd and see if that gets the wireless card
[14:44] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: that is no reason. drupal doesn't need sendmail
[14:44] <NthDegree> InsClusoe: install libdvdcss for the .VOB files if they're from a DVD
[14:44] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: I have installed it.
[14:44] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: what happens when you do :: sudo apt-get install postfix ?
[14:44] <Laney_Family> for some reason i cannot run the live cd on this sys, it prompts back to a terminal screen
[14:45] <erawfish_> rhineheart_m: every MTA has a /usr/lib/sendmail binary with it. use postfix or exim
[14:45] <erawfish_> Laney_Family: what wlan is it? what chip?
[14:45] <Laney_Family> as such i cannot install ubuntu with the disk i have...
[14:45] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: when ... that: sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[14:45] <Viktorious> whats a good p2p sharing program similar to limewire
[14:45] <Laney_Family> idk, its in the machine, no access
[14:45] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: I have libdvdcss2, if that matters.
[14:45] <bazhang> Laney_Family: well you could install ubuntu-desktop on the edubuntu install and choose session from there
[14:45] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: dpkg-reconfigure postfix as root. full output in a pastebin
[14:45] <dgjones> !alternate | Laney_Family, If the livecd doesn't work, you could try the alternate install cd
[14:46] <ubotu> Laney_Family, If the livecd doesn't work, you could try the alternate install cd: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:46] <bazhang> erawfish_: atheros chipset supported in edubuntu
[14:46] <nastas> Victorious frostwire :)
[14:46] <rhineheart_m> erawfish_: okay.. so what should I need to configure? I tried registering but the confirmation didn't arrive
[14:46] <erawfish_> Laney_Family: you do have access. you can boot something on the machine, right?
[14:46] <spaceninja> doesn't ubuntu use hal to automatically mount discs?
[14:46] <erawfish_> rhineheart_with sendmail? you should install it first. but I don't support sendmail
[14:46] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : wait a second.
[14:46] <erawfish_> bazhang: if edubuntu's kernel can so can ubuntu's
[14:46] <NthDegree> InsClusoe: do those files play on mplayer?
[14:46] <Laney_Family> thanks gusy, unfortunaly i have to go, sun needs bath before school
[14:47] <arekkusu> A bit off topic but I just saw a news that compaq is coming with an UMPC with Windows OR Linux as OS choice.... I had no idea compaq sold pc running on linux... is that something new ?
[14:47] <Laney_Family> thanks for your help
[14:47] <bazhang> erawfish_: indeed, which is what I was trying to tell Laney_Family
[14:47] <Laney_Family> lol son needs bath rather
[14:47] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: I haven't tried mplayer.. Let me check..
[14:47] <vb> my ubuntu is heating up my laptop leading to restart whenver i listen to songs or play youtube videos, it is ubuntu-specific since the laptop works fine over on xp, it worked fine 4 days back, i assume some system update has messed up something, any idea?
[14:47] <nastas> anyone knows how to make my wireless light to work?
[14:47] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: HP (owner of compaq) sold linux boxes for ages now
[14:47] <erawfish_> nastas: only if you learn to ask sensible questions
[14:48] <bazhang> arekkusu: best to ask about that in #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[14:48] <erawfish_> arekkusu: HP (owner of compaq) sold linux boxes for ages now
[14:48] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : that is the result : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56748/plain/
[14:48] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: touch http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56748/plain/
[14:48] <erawfish_> erm, touch /etc/postfix/main.cf
[14:48] <erawfish_> then try again
[14:49] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : the result is : touch: cannot touch `/etc/postfix/main.cf': Permission denied
[14:49] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: does /etc/postfix/ exist? the directory exists and if so what files are in there?
[14:49] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: you need to be root of course
[14:49] <arekkusu> bazhang: sorry didn't realise there was an offtopic channel ><  erawfish_: Ok didn't know that :)
[14:49] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : wait a second... i can`t be root because i have that error ;) with sendmail : fatal.. etc
[14:49] <no1knwosme> hi,
[14:49] <Wunar> Hello! I'm trying to keep the 7.10 kernel (2.6.22.14) from updating, either via apt-get upgrade, or adept, ever (while I figure out why the updated kernel breaks wireless for me), but to no avail. Can anyone nudge me in the right direction? /etc/apt/preferences and pinning seem to do nothing (or I just can't)
[14:50] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : man when i ls -a on /etc/postfix : .  ..  dynamicmaps.cf  master.cf  postfix-files  postfix-script  post-install  sasl
[14:50] <no1knwosme> i need to share my internet connection from linux to a second pc with windows
[14:50] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: Installed mplayer. It crashes when trying to play .flv files.
[14:50] <erawfish_> Wunar: hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections', or 'aptitude hold package', or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have
[14:50] <erawfish_>  been held back" for hdependency reasons.]
[14:51] <erawfish_> no1knwosme: how many network cards do you have?
[14:51] <NthDegree> InsClusoe: start mplayer in a console and see what it says when it crashes
[14:51] <no1knwosme> 2
[14:51] <NthDegree> you may need to file a bug#
[14:51] <AckerMANn> erawfish_ : have you an ideea ?
[14:51] <erawfish_> no1knwosme: apt-get install ipmasq dnsmasq
[14:51] <erawfish_> AckerMANn: I told you. touch the main.cf file
[14:52] <no1knwosme> erawfish_:
[14:52] <no1knwosme> i need to configure something ?
[14:52] <arekkusu> no1knwosme: I am sure I've seen an share internet option in Firestarter... have used it though
[14:52] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: It says mplayer crashed and that this should not happen.
[14:52] <Andre> Once again: I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop but the orange status bar freezes right after I select "start/install Ubuntu". Tried reburning the CD, using nolapic noapic etc. Not working. Freezes every time. Any ideas??
[14:53] <Pici> Andre: Have you tried the alternate CD?
[14:53] <bazhang> Andre: you might consider trying the alt cd
[14:53] <Pici> !alt | Andre
[14:53] <ubotu> Andre: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:53] <NthDegree> InsClusoe: try reporting it as a bug, see what the developers say
[14:53] <Andre> sweet thanks. I'll try that!
[14:54] <mykorrhiza> I had the same problem with kubuntu, the cd drive wouldnt work
[14:54] <alumno02> Hi
[14:54] <NthDegree> InsClusoe: .flv support is useless in most apps at the moment >.>
[14:54] <shishirm1> can i directly extract my email messages just with fetchmail?
[14:54] <alumno02> i have ubuntu with ltsp, but clients havent sound, which steps i should follow to solve it?
[14:54] <ZeroA4> InsClusoe, I Play .flv with VLC
[14:55] <Jockeo> Is TightVNC ok? It seems to be working on both Ubuntu and Windows XP.
[14:55] <magnetron> InsClusoe: and I play flv with totem/gstreamer
[14:55] <NthDegree> ubotu: you mean before the land of bloated OS installers the alternate CD kicks ass with it's lack of bloatiness ;) as a robot you must know that! :P
[14:55] <Wunar> erawfish_: I tried aptitude hold linux-image linux-headers linux-generic, but apt-get upgrade -s still seems to wish to upgrade them
[14:55] <no1knwosme> so any1 have an idea how can i share my connection to windows ?
[14:55] <NthDegree> Jockeo: it's fine
[14:56] <wsukid> I've been reading up on some forums about keyboard and mouse freezing up while using ubuntu i'm having the same problem. It only happens when i load stuff with the web and i got past the form
[14:56] <Jockeo> NthDegree: ok thanks for helping
[14:56] <NthDegree> Jockeo: just don't be looking at anything confidential that depends on security
[14:56] <InsClusoe> NthDegree: Here's mplayer crash output.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/4796/
[14:56] <NthDegree> since VNC is very insecure
[14:56] <faileas> no1knwosme: freeNX
[14:56] <The_Machine> very insecure?
[14:56] <GSK> VMware bridged mode, someone can help me ? To configure it on my laptop. I want to bridged vmnet 1 on eth0 and vmnet 2 on eth1
[14:56] <faileas> least for sharing from linix to windows
[14:57] <NthDegree> The_Machine: only password sending is encrypted
[14:57] <The_Machine> NthDegree, so use SSH
[14:57] <NthDegree> anything you type after that is plaintext
[14:57] <Jockeo> NthDegree:  No, I saw on Wikipedia that it doesn't have encryption, but I will still use that one.
[14:57] <ZeroA4> The_Machine, VNC send password in clear text... can be sniffed out of the network
[14:57] <NthDegree> The_Machine: yes indeed if it wasn't on a Windows box ;-p
[14:57] <damdalf> hey
[14:57] <geekahedron> anyone know why my wireless will work if i manually assign the essid, but not in "roaming" mode?
[14:57] <The_Machine> SSH is supported by windows.
[14:57] <SleepingSloth> does anyone here use gmailfs ?
[14:58] <NthDegree> Jockeo: that's okay then, just so you appreciate the potential dangers =]
[14:58] <nios>  when i watch prison break or any other serie/movie  on mplayer or vlc it sometimes stop, do i need any codec or so?
[14:58] <wsukid> im new to ubuntu and linux overall is there a place i can get commands to check what my computer is running with?
[14:58] <NthDegree> Jockeo: as geekahedron says you can use SSH as a tunnel to add encryption
[14:58] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Totem also crashes while playing flv. :-)
[14:58] <Aciid> nios: mplayer doesn't need much codecsz
[14:58] <artti> What is Gnome and Xfce4 difference?
[14:58] <NthDegree> wsukid: what hardware your PC uses?
[14:58] <no1knwosme> it's not freenx
[14:58] <wsukid> yeah
[14:58] <NthDegree> artti: try them and see
[14:58] <no1knwosme> ;/
[14:58] <wsukid> because i want to see what my gpu is
[14:58] <Aciid> man this channel is such a floodbit
[14:58] <NthDegree> wsukid: lspci, lsusb, lsmod
[14:58] <nios> can you guys tell me some good codecs
[14:58] <Aciid> I think ill ignore join part quits
[14:58] <Jockeo> NthDegree: Yes, I might tunnel it via SSH if I use it a lot.
[14:58] <magnetron> InsClusoe: maybe your flv is damaged or malformed. you could try to convert it with ffmpeg
[14:59] <SleepingSloth> artti, if you're asking that question, you're probably better off with gnome
[14:59] <InsClusoe> magnetron: I don't know if it's damaged. But VLC on WinXP is able to play the same file.
[14:59] <artti> SleepingSloth, how i can remove Gnome?
[14:59] <magnetron> InsClusoe: try my advice
[14:59] <SleepingSloth> artti, why do you want to get rid of it?
[15:00] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Yup.. Sure. In a min.
[15:00] <prince_jammys> artti: we've talked about this, xfce is lighter
[15:00] <express> alguem ai fala portugues ?
[15:00] <bazhang> !pt
[15:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:00] <magnetron> !pt | express
[15:00] <ubotu> express: please see above
[15:00] <wsukid> thanks NthDegree
[15:00] <artti> prince_jammys, but it looks i have mixed Gnome and Xfce4
[15:00] <ZeroA4> InsClusoe, did you try to play it with VLC on linux ?
[15:01] <express> i am not inglish
[15:01] <InsClusoe> ZeroA4: Yes.. And it doesn't, It crashes.
[15:01] <Pici> express: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:01] <prince_jammys> artti: i think xfce uses gtk, which is also used by gnome
[15:01] <artti> prince_jammys, computer isn't any faster.
[15:01] <ZeroA4> express, aqui é canal de suporte em ingles. por favor va pra #Ubuntu-br
[15:01] <goki_work> Anyone know what is up with the vmware-player package? I don't seem to have it available?
[15:01] <nios> what codes you guys use?
[15:01] <SleepingSloth> does nobody use gmailfs?
[15:01] <Pici> nios: Huh? What do you mean?
[15:02] <nios> xvid/dvix codecs
[15:02] <nios> good package
[15:02] <nclx> checking for /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/build/net/packet/af_packet.c... no
[15:02] <nclx> configure: error: Cannot find  /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/build/net/packet/af_packet.c
[15:02] <alumno02> i have ubuntu with ltsp, but clients havent sound, which steps i should follow to solve it?
[15:02] <nclx> what package am I missing?
[15:02] <ZeroA4> goki_work, i think is not available via apt-get any more...
[15:02] <goki_work> ZeroA4: Any idea why?
[15:02] <nclx> I installed linux-headers-2.6.22-14-386
[15:02] <Pici> !codecs > nios (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:03] <Pici> !medibuntu > nios (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:03] <ZeroA4> goki_work, no... i Got VMware Player 2.0 by using the VMware installer..
[15:04] <aboo0ood> hi every body, i have an svn directory i want to download, how can i do that ?
[15:04] <L3ttuc3> is there a way to put the cursor at the end of the read buffer inside nano when editing a sizeable text file rather than at the top (which is the default)?
[15:05] <Wunar> even "aptitude hold (matching packages from dpkg -l | grep linux)" doesn't seem to have any effect on apt-get upgrade -s, and kernel still wants to be upgraded. what am i missing?
[15:06] <goki_work> ZeroA4: Apparently it was removed because <barbie>Packaging is _HARD_, Ken!</barbie>
[15:06] <goki_work> this seems to be the ubuntu way, if it is tricky just trash it
[15:07] <reikalusikka> can any1 help me, I played a little with panels and now amsn doesn't work properly. It doesn't minimize itself in to the tray, as a icon
[15:07] <reikalusikka> this is driving me nuts
[15:07] <faileas> goki_work: that sounds rather off clour ;p
[15:07] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Installed ffmpeg.
[15:07] <geekahedron> holy crap, adobe's flash player install actually works now
[15:07] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Read the manual and converted the flv to mpg.
[15:07] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Still, no luck. Mplayer won't play it.
[15:07] <Pici> L3ttuc3: You can use esc-\ and esc-/ to move to the top and bottom of your file.
[15:08] <mykorrhiza> Hello I have a problem with the cd-drive on my laptop, I cant mount anything. But in recovery mode it works but not the automounting.
[15:08] <reikalusikka> can any1 help me, I played a little with panels and now amsn doesn't work properly. It doesn't minimize itself in to the tray, as a icon
[15:08] <reikalusikka> this is driving me nuts
[15:08] <reikalusikka> :D
[15:08] <magnetron> InsClusoe: if ffmpeg cannot convert it, then it is damaged
[15:08] <L3ttuc3> Pici but there's no way to place the cursor there by default, then? it's not a big problem... but it would be nice.
[15:09] <InsClusoe> magnetron: ffmpeg converted it. But mplayer is not able to play the converted file.
[15:09] <wsukid> what do i need to play avi files?
[15:09] <xukun> I asked this question before but did not really got a satisfying answer. I does anybody know an alternative a program for M$ visio. Its a program that you can create a wide variety of business and technical drawings live
[15:09] <_elemental> vlc
[15:09] <prince_jammys> !avi | wsukid
[15:09] <ubotu> wsukid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:09] <Pici> L3ttuc3: Not that I can see.. you could try lookin through .nanorc though.  I use a modified version to enable syntax hilighting, I think theres a basic copy of it somewhere, check nano's manpage.
[15:09] <Le-Chuck_IT1> xukun what do you mean ?
[15:09] <L3ttuc3> Pici i mean, would it be possible to send those escape sequences to nano, on the command line where im opening the file, by using pipes or something?
[15:09] <osfameron> xukun: you can try inkscape.  or maybe umbrello.
[15:10] <magnetron> InsClusoe: i'm sure that mplayer can play mpeg files, provided that you installed the codecs. your flv have to be damaged.
[15:10] <_elemental> InsClusoe try vlc
[15:10] <Pici> L3ttuc3: I'm not really sure.... check out /usr/share/doc/nano/examples/nanorc.sample for the .nanorc file though./
[15:11] <xukun> Thanks Le-Chuck_IT1, osfameron
[15:11] <Technoid_India> xukun: yes ther r soo many around ther...but get remember the names...go google up or visit www.sf.net
[15:11] <InsClusoe> magnetron: I will recheck and confirm if I have the proper codecs installed.
[15:11] <osfameron> xukun: a quick google also suggests kivio, dia, or just openoffice draw.  epends on your requirements
[15:11] <InsClusoe> _elemental: vlc also crashes..
[15:11] <Technoid_India> xukun: brainstorming ???
[15:11] <Wunar> What is the ubuntu way of updating without touching the kernel? (redhat's yum update --exclude kernel*)
[15:11] <_elemental> InsClusoe bummer, that's what I use to play all my flv files...
[15:11] <artti> But i Xubuntu does it normal, when it shows Ubuntu menu too?
[15:11] <InsClusoe> magnetron: mplayer is complaining abt too many video packets in the buffer.
[15:11] <KRF> Wunar, i recommend aptitude safe-upgrade ;)
[15:12] <L3ttuc3> Pici i had read man nano, didn't know there was a man nanorc, im on that right now, thanks. on the other hand, how would you redirect ESC+/ (for example) to a text file (ie, non-printing character), for future reference?
[15:12] <geekahedron> how can i install ff3 to replace ff2 as my default and shortcuts and all that?
[15:12] <goki_work> faileas: I'm just bitter, it's not long since the whole "realplayer broken for bizarre reasons, but nothing tells you it's broken" thing :)
[15:12] <xukun> This sounds really good, but is there anybody who can recommend me one they already use?
[15:12] <Pici> L3ttuc3: I dont know :/
[15:12] <magnetron> InsClusoe: do you get the same result in vlc?
[15:12] <L3ttuc3> Pici oh well, thanks anyway :).
[15:12] <Le-Chuck_IT1> does somebody know how to delete a network from the autoconnect list of networkmanager?
[15:12] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Here's mplayer's output reporting the error.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/4797/
[15:13] <Jouva> I have a system I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto, and there's been a LOT of reading from the CD once the CD started to try to load X. Is this sometimes common?
[15:13] <geekahedron> "apt-get install firefox-3.0" installed gran paradiso 3.0a8, instead of firefox 3.0b3 as i wanted
[15:14] <goki_work> reikalusikka: Did you get rid of the system notification area?
[15:14] <sdsheeks> Jouva: yes
[15:14] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Can I paste VLC's error msg here? It's only 5 lines long.
[15:14] <masus> on boot --> can not allocate resource region 7 of bridge  can anybody help
[15:14] <reikalusikka> goki_work: not sure what that is
[15:15] <dgjones> !paste | InsClusoe
[15:15] <ubotu> InsClusoe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:15] <magnetron> InsClusoe: it seems to be complaining about some missing Matrox MGA graphics card. does other video files play nice in mplayer?
[15:15] <cyphase> Does anyone know what happened to Galago? Development seems to have stalled.
[15:15] <reikalusikka> goki_work: how can I add it back?
[15:15] <magnetron> InsClusoe: plz use a paste bin
[15:15] <brunner> hi all
[15:15] <Kibbles> when running apt-get from terminal (trying to install ATI drivers) it prompts me for disc. i don't have it on me - can I get around this?
[15:15] <Jouva> sdsheeks: It's been atleast... 20 minutes and it still hasn't gotten to the desktop yet to run the installer.
[15:15] <goki_work> reikalusikka: Not sure what it is called in gnome, but right click on the panel, then choose to add an applet, look for something like system tray or sytem notification. Give me a sec and I will start up a gnome system to check
[15:15] <InsClusoe> magnetron: ok.. Here you go.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/4798/
[15:15] <danbhfive> !gutsysources | Kibbles
[15:15] <ubotu> Kibbles: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[15:16] <Le-Chuck_IT1> Jouva: maybe or just check the cd for defects
[15:16] <reikalusikka> goki_work: ok thanks
[15:16] <Jouva> Le-Chuck_IT1: Done that, it's fine
[15:16] <sdsheeks> Jouva: that is not normal.  Is it scratched?
[15:16] <USN1520> KIbbles: open up synaptic and uncheck the disc from source
[15:16] <Le-Chuck_IT1> Jouva: then it's normal :)
[15:16] <Le-Chuck_IT1> No for me it is
[15:16] <InsClusoe> magnetron: No.. VLC crashes when I try to play .vob files from DVD's.
[15:16] <S4nD3r> Is possible to install lenny from ubuntu ???
[15:17] <pawan> amule could not load servers
[15:17] <brunner> my install CD is damaged and it's the only one I have.  Is there any way to adjust the apt sources so it uses an online server as the source for the installation packages instead of trying to pull them off the CD?
[15:17] <Jouva> I'm _thinking_ it's because the system has only 256 megs memory
[15:17] <Jouva> It's a P4 HT though.
[15:17] <Le-Chuck_IT1> nobody knows how to stop networkmanager autoconnecting to a network I have chosen once by mistake?
[15:17] <USN1520> brunner:  in synaptic uncheck the cd as a source and it will revert to online
[15:17] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Regarding mplayer's msg, I don't have a graphics card installed. I am using Intel's onboard graphics only.
[15:18] <magnetron> InsClusoe: VLC confirms that it does not find video playback support in your graphics card driver. it would have been easier if you would have told us that no video playback work. what's your graphics card, and what driver are you using?
[15:18] <brunner> USN1520: yes, but will that include packages for the base system?
[15:18] <Technoid_India> brunner: why dont u downlaod a fresh ubuntu image frm ubuntu.com
[15:18] <magnetron> InsClusoe: ok intel. their accelerated driver does not support video playback.
[15:18] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Oops. Sorry.. It used to play earlier. I don't know if I messed up by installing some wrong package.
[15:18] <USN1520> I believe that is the case
[15:18] <brunner> Technoid_India: because it's not the CD that's actually damaged. it's my cdrom.
[15:18] <bazhang> http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ_aMule pawan here is some reading for you
[15:18] <USN1520> not sure though
[15:19] <brunner> Technoid_India: the drive, rather
[15:19] <Technoid_India> brunner: ohh...i see...
[15:19] <joshuah> hi
[15:19] <brunner> but it will read enough for me to get to this point with the live cd
[15:19] <magnetron> InsClusoe: try disabling compiz.
[15:19] <joshuah> can someone help me?
[15:19] <brunner> it just has errors when it goes through the install
[15:19] <InsClusoe> magnetron: ok..
[15:19] <joshuah> i gotta question
[15:19] <alumno02> i have ubuntu with ltsp, but clients havent sound, which steps i should follow to solve it?
[15:19] <Neeku> hi
[15:19] <goki_work> reikalusikka: Ok you need to clear some space on the panel, then right click on it and select "+add to panel...", then find "Notification Area" near the bottom of the list, click it and click "Add"
[15:19] <bazhang> ask away joshuah
[15:19] <reikalusikka> goki_work: I found it, in utilities
[15:19] <SpacePilot> Can't seem to find any information about what driver to install in gutsy for the use of a Audigy 2 zs soundcard?
[15:19] <USN1520> brunner: so you don't have an up and running system?
[15:19] <reikalusikka> goki_work: thanks very much for your help
[15:19] <Neeku> i want to add a user to virtualbox; but it gives error; what should i do?
[15:19] <joshuah> ok i'm having trouble getting frostwire too work
[15:20] <joshuah> i downloaded it from there site
[15:20] <goki_work> reikalusikka: no problem
[15:20] <L3ttuc3> Jouva i'm not terribly sure, but before loading the X server, DHCP will try to resolve an IP address for you, and if you haven't got your network hardware detected properly, etc, it might keep trying to resolve a network; i had a similar problem, but later during the install phase. try opening up one of the consoles to see what is going on? ctrl+alt 1, 2, 3, 4 - i forget which is used to display messages.
[15:20] <joshuah> when i click it
[15:20] <joshuah> it dont' run
[15:20] <joshuah> wat can i try?
[15:20] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Hey.. now mplayer is playing the converted mpg. But without audio.
[15:20] <brunner> USN1520: that's correct. I'm using the live cd right now.
[15:20] <USN1520> joshuah: what wrong wid it?
[15:20] <Kibbles> thanks USN1520and danbhfive
[15:20] <joshuah> um well it don't start up
[15:20] <joshuah> but then again
[15:20] <joshuah> it would be java
[15:20] <centyx> gar.
[15:20] <prince_jammys> !java | joshua
[15:20] <ubotu> joshua: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:20] <magnetron> InsClusoe: i'm afraid that you cannot use video playback and compiz at the same time with an intel card. this is a flaw in the driver from intel.
[15:21] <USN1520> so you haven't installed the system and you ran the check and it has errors, right?
[15:21] <joshuah> alright
[15:21] <magnetron> InsClusoe: try the flv video now
[15:21] <joshuah> thats wat i need
[15:21] <bazhang> joshuah: try gtk-gnutella instead
[15:21] <USN1520> I had 37 errors shown on my disc check last night and
[15:21] <joshuah> i'm kinda new too this
[15:21] <prince_jammys> joshuah: sounds like it
[15:21] <USN1520> it istalls just fine
[15:21] <joshuah> but i luv ubuntu
[15:21] <InsClusoe> magnetron: vlc is playing the flv. But again, no audio..
[15:21] <centyx> anyone know how i can find out which package adds group 'admin' to /etc/group?
[15:21] <InsClusoe> magnetron: something wrong with my audio driver too?
[15:21] <Jouva> USN1520: 37? In a row?
[15:21] <brunner> okay, so I changed my apt sources.  will that do the trick for the install?
[15:21] <joshuah> ya but first i need
[15:21] <joshuah> java before anything
[15:21] <joshuah> lol
[15:21] <bazhang> !info gtk-gnutella | joshuah
[15:21] <ubotu> joshuah: gtk-gnutella (source: gtk-gnutella): shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.4-1 (gutsy), package size 6366 kB, installed size 14068 kB
[15:22] <magnetron> InsClusoe: the audio issue cannot be related to this... it's too remote
[15:22]  * N3bunel saluta
[15:22] <joshuah> i know
[15:22] <alumno02> i have ubuntu with ltsp, but clients havent sound, which steps i should follow to solve it?
[15:22] <prince_jammys> joshuah: try the java, should work
[15:22] <USN1520> that is what the disk check utilitysaid
[15:22] <jpatrick> !es > N3bunel
[15:22] <joshuah> ive used gtk gnutella
[15:22] <joshuah> before
[15:22] <joshuah> and loved it
[15:22] <USN1520> wanted to make sure I didnt make a frisbee
[15:22] <jpatrick> !enter | joshuah
[15:22] <ubotu> joshuah: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:22] <joshuah> i used too use freespire
[15:22] <brunner> that is, if I uncheck the CD-Rom and pick online sources, it will use the online apt repo for the source of packages during the install?
[15:22] <prince_jammys> !enter | joshuah
[15:22] <joshuah> !enter joshuah
[15:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter joshuah - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:22] <USN1520> but k3b never lets me down
[15:22] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Sorry.. Audio does get played when i play the flv.
[15:22] <joshuah> lol
[15:22] <deniz__> im 2 hours late to skool so sum1 plz help!!!! i have a video project due!!!!!! i burnt it but it keeps burning with no sound
[15:22] <deniz__> !
[15:23] <goldensun> salut
[15:23] <goldensun> need help
[15:23] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Maybe I did something wrong when converting it to vcd format with ffmpeg.
[15:23] <deniz__> i have 6 files then
[15:23] <deniz__> i use
[15:23] <deniz__> devede
[15:23] <USN1520> I am not thinking so brunner...I think from the jump you need a decent image
[15:23] <jpatrick> !fr > goldensun
[15:23] <deniz__> to make it for dvd format
[15:23] <deniz__> it makes the iso
[15:23] <jpatrick> !enter | deniz__
[15:23] <ubotu> deniz__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:23] <deniz__> and wen i burn it no sound!
[15:23] <USN1520> did you try running the install regardless
[15:23] <goldensun> sorry
[15:23] <InsClusoe> magnetron: that's probably why there is no audio when I play the mpg file.
[15:23] <deniz__> but the files have sound!
[15:23] <bazhang> brunner: is this already installled and you want to update; or is it part of the initial installation? there is a minimal cd (around 9MB) that can get you going if you have a download cap
[15:23] <deniz__> :'( plz help!!!
[15:24] <SpacePilot> Anyone have time to help me installing the correct sounddriver?
[15:24] <joshuah> um will that link u sent me for java work with feisty?
[15:24] <deniz__> y is every1 ignoring me??
[15:24] <brunner> bazhang: can I make my ubuntu install CD act like the mini.iso by changing the apt sources
[15:24] <dgjones> !patience | deniz__
[15:24] <ubotu> deniz__: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:24] <USN1520> deniz what up?
[15:24] <bazhang> deniz__: because you are using the enter key so much
[15:24] <deniz__> bazhang, ok but would u no how to help me?
[15:24] <Jouva> jfudhfafhiuefhuifjkfeuif... somebody smack me, I just tried to do ipconfig /all at a linux prompt :(
[15:25] <brunner> deniz__: seriously. enter your question as one line and see if anyone answers, please
[15:25] <bazhang> brunner: no; just get the minimal cd and do it that way only 9MB ;]
[15:25] <USN1520> sacreligous at best Jouva
[15:25] <prince_jammys> joshuah: probably
[15:25] <USN1520> best of luck brunner
[15:25] <bazhang> jouva you are looking for ifconfig I believe ;]
[15:25] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Thanks a lot for helping me out. Hereafter, I will disable compiz when playing videos.
[15:25] <brunner> deniz__: it's hard to keep up with so many lines.  I saw some of your latter ones and still don't really know what you're having trouble with.
[15:25] <deniz__> ok i have 6 video files nice the way i want them so then i use devede to make them into dvd format and it makes the iso but wen i burn the iso its always no sound!
[15:25] <brunner> USN1520: thanks
[15:26] <joshuah> k thanks prince imma try
[15:26] <GSK> VMware bridged mode, someone can help me ? To configure it on my laptop. I want to bridged vmnet 1 on eth0 and vmnet 2 on eth1
[15:27] <deniz__> brunner,  ok i have 6 video files nice the way i want them so then i use devede to make them into dvd format and it makes the iso but wen i burn the iso its always no sound!
[15:27] <Neeku> I've added my user to virtualbox users; but when i want to run the vbox it says: WARNING: You are not a member of the "vboxusers" group.  Please add yourself
[15:27] <Neeku>          to this group before starting VirtualBox.
[15:27] <Neeku>          You will not be able to start VMs until this problem is fixed.
[15:27] <brunner> deniz__: you might check searchirc.com to see if devede has a support channel.  they would be able to help you, whereas I've never heard of it
[15:27]  * InsClusoe thanks magnetron and wonders why Intel doesn't give proper drivers.
[15:27] <bazhang> http://www.videohelp.com/guides/linux-how-to-create-a-custom-dvd-with-devede-id1023#1023 deniz__ take a look here first please
[15:27] <magnetron> you're welcome, InsClusoe
[15:28] <USN1520> because they are in bed with M$
[15:28] <InsClusoe> magnetron: Are there 3rd party graphics drivers for my intel chipset?
[15:28] <prince_jammys> deniz__: check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620103
[15:28] <bazhang> what chipset InsClusoe
[15:29] <Sky[noD_nuBoM]> à ëîõè äðàíûå
[15:29] <InsClusoe> bazhang: I am using Intel 945GM chipset, I think. Its a Dell Inspiron 6400 Laptop.
[15:29] <rblst> hi all; how can i easily set my webcam parameters (gamma, colors, etc.) in 7.10?
[15:29] <USN1520> rblst: sorry, beyond my ability
[15:30] <joshuah> anyone know y when i install java its opening in g edit?
[15:30] <rblst> USN1520: thanks anyway :)
[15:30] <joshuah> shouldn't it be opening in something else?
[15:30] <InsClusoe> bazhang: Any clues?
[15:31] <joshuah> cause it don't even give me the option too install it
[15:31] <tuna-fish> how can I find what version of ubuntu is on a machine?
[15:31] <joshuah> i need a different archiving program i think
[15:31] <tuna-fish> preferably from the terminal
[15:31] <Pici> tuna-fish: lsb_release -a
[15:31] <supremo> hello baby
[15:31] <Pici> supremo: Please dont, This is a support channel.
[15:32] <deniz__> prince_jammys, OMG I THINK THIS IS IT!!
[15:32] <swirv> neato Pici .. thanks for that
[15:32] <deniz__> prince_jammys, ill report bak
[15:32] <deniz__> and every1 else thx as well
[15:32] <prince_jammys> deniz__: i did see a solution there, but check it out
[15:32] <extern> is there a setting somewhere for "wait for vertical refresh"? gnome sometimes has some artifacts because of the vertical refresh
[15:32] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4317506 InsClusoe there is some discussion of that at this link--not sure if it will help but worth a shot ;]
[15:32] <tuna-fish> Pici: thanks
[15:32] <prince_jammys> deniz__: *didn't
[15:32] <alumno02> i have ubuntu with ltsp, but clients havent sound, which steps i should follow to solve it?
[15:33] <S4nD3r> Is possible upgrade to lenny from ubuntu  ???
[15:33] <supremo> !list
[15:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:34]  * voltage sips away at his coffee
[15:34] <supremo> lost irc
[15:34] <joshuah> wat is the newest ubuntu called?
[15:34] <InsClusoe> bazhang: magnetron: The hardware spec sheet says I have Intel Media Accelerator 950 Graphics up to 224 MB shared system memory.
[15:34] <dgjones> !gutsy | josh
[15:34] <ubotu> josh: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[15:34] <joshuah> alright i need too get that
[15:34] <joshuah> or shouldn't i is it buggy?
[15:34] <InsClusoe> bazhang: magnetron: I feel so cheated.
[15:35] <cliebow__> alumno02, besy hang around #ltsp...
[15:35] <joshuah> i'm on feisty now is that betta?
[15:35] <sknh> I am using nVidia driver installed by Envy
[15:35] <swirv> Has anyone got World of Warcraft working with the Intel GMA graphics card?
[15:35] <InsClusoe> joshuah: Gutsy is the latest stable release.
[15:35] <joshuah> ok
[15:35] <Krstfrs_> could anyone please send me an wget i686 binary? my vserver doesn't have wget in it's rescue system and i have a 64bit machine here
[15:35] <sknh> Update manager is showing an update for xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:35] <Kibbles> trying to install ATI drivers from AMD. I get the following message:./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 311: sh -c '/usr/sbin/synaptic --set-selections --non-interactive --hide-main-window < /tmp/filestd6Z2': not found
[15:35] <Kibbles> Unable to resolve  ia32-libs.  Please manually install and try again.
[15:35] <Kibbles> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.VM9504
[15:35] <Kibbles> Is anyone familiar with this?
[15:36] <sknh> will the update replace or affect my current video drivers in any way?
[15:36] <Kibbles> (sorry for flooding - that was longer than expected)
[15:36] <joshuah> 64 bit can be a really big pain
[15:36] <joshuah> when it comes too drivers
[15:36] <joshuah> lol
[15:36] <supremo> can somebody help me ?
[15:36] <extern> Kibbles, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[15:37] <extern> and it works fine then
[15:37] <joshuah> supremo
[15:37] <extern> I installed the driver today that way
[15:37] <joshuah> wat u need help with?
[15:37] <daz31> hi does anyone how to solve shutdown problems on ubuntu gutsy gibbbon v7.10 I have tried the reboot= fix on menu.lst file with no success
[15:37] <Kibbles> extern: mucho thanks
[15:37] <joshuah> no idea daz
[15:37] <awolf> If there's a package in universe that is maintained by a debian maintainer, and I want to poke someone to get a new version from upstream packaged, who do I poke and how do I do it nicely?
[15:37] <joshuah> about shutdown problems on gutzy that is
[15:37] <InsClusoe> sknh: To upgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel drivers, I need to download 65 MB of archives. Sucks!
[15:38] <bazhang> InsClusoe: there seems to be a bug related to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/116808
[15:38] <InsClusoe> bazhang: Thanks. I will check it out..
[15:38] <joshuah> 65 mb's well wat connectiong speed u got?
[15:38] <InsClusoe> joshuah: 2 mbps.
[15:38] <joshuah> oh ok thats not too bad
[15:38] <deniz__> prince_jammys, wat exactly am i spose to update? cuz i have dial-up and unselected alot of thinks but i think mencoder was the important one, right?
[15:38] <joshuah> me myself got 7mb sec
[15:38] <joshuah> haha
[15:39] <InsClusoe> joshuah: Oh.. Cool!
[15:39] <supremo> help me ! -- help me
[15:39] <joshuah> very cool yup
[15:39] <brunner> should my target partition be mounted or unmounted before I go through the install?
[15:39] <joshuah> but i'm in the u.s
[15:39] <Pici> !ask | supremo
[15:39] <ubotu> supremo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:39] <joshuah> u prolly not
[15:39] <joshuah> lol
[15:39] <bazhang> supremo: if you ask a question then we may help ;]
[15:39] <prince_jammys> deniz__: i really don't know about devede, sorry.  but if it uses mencoder, then yes, that should be important
[15:39] <sknh> InsClusoe, how do I check if all the software sources that are checked for updates are reliable
[15:39] <InsClusoe> joshuah: Yeah.
[15:40] <deniz__> prince_jammys, well thats all that seemed important of all the updating to do
[15:40] <InsClusoe> sknh: Check your sources.list file. That will show what sources you are downloading from.
[15:40] <bazhang> sknh you have some doubtful repos in there?
[15:40] <sknh> bazhang, don't know. Want to make sure before I do the update.
[15:40] <daz31> bazhang:  do you know much about shutdown problems?
[15:40] <stercor> Does Ubuntu have a terminal timeout program that blanks the screen after a certan time with no keyboard or mouse activity?
[15:41] <InsClusoe> sknh: Or you can view the list of sources from synaptic itself.
[15:41] <brunner> never mind. it unmounts partitions when I start the installer
[15:41] <sknh> bazhang, update manager says, NOT AUTHENTICATED for few updates
[15:41] <supremo> ok at the moment i must go out ..... see you later ; there is somebody speak italian ? thanks!!
[15:41] <sknh> bazhang, that's the reason I am concerned
[15:41] <dgjones> !it > supremo
[15:41] <bazhang> sknh anything outside or third party in there? using automatix or other non ubuntu sources?
[15:41] <supremo> !it
[15:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:41] <prince_jammys> how does one update a specific package with apt-get?
[15:42] <joshuah> wat archiving program will let me install java on feisty?
[15:42] <bazhang> sknh would you mind pastebinning your sources list?
[15:42] <supremo> thank you dgjones !!!
[15:42] <sknh> bazhang, pastebinning? how do I do that?
[15:42] <joshuah> anyone ?
[15:42] <prince_jammys> !paste | sknh
[15:42] <ubotu> sknh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:42] <bazhang> daz31 what shutdown problem are you having? could you describe it more fully?
[15:42] <InsClusoe> sknh: Open terminal. Run gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and copy the text to paste.ubuntu.com and paste the link here.
[15:42] <leeping2007> Hi there, I'm trying to run a ./configure script, and the error that I'm getting is "/bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory".  The CTRL+M character isn't appearing when I use emacs to edit the ./configure script .. what's the issue here?
[15:42] <dgjones> !java | joshuah
[15:42] <ubotu> joshuah: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:43] <joshuah> i did look at that
[15:43] <prince_jammys> joshuah: you tried installing java through apt, and it didn't work?
[15:43] <joshuah> and i downloaded the file i need
[15:43] <supremo> !games
[15:43] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[15:43] <joshuah> but it not opening with g edit
[15:43] <prince_jammys> joshuah: you need to install a specific .deb file?
[15:43] <bazhang> java
[15:43] <joshuah> no
[15:43] <joshuah> its a rpm
[15:43] <bazhang> oy
[15:44] <dgjones> !rpm | joshuah
[15:44] <joshuah> but ya i will need too after install a .deb
[15:44] <ubotu> joshuah: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[15:44] <joshuah> file
[15:44] <daz31> bazhang:  When I quit the ubuntu screen comes up and the progress bar goes but the machine doesnt shutdown I have to turn pc off using the power button
[15:44] <bazhang> daz31: this is gutsy?
[15:44] <joshuah> yes i know that
[15:44] <daz31> yes v7.10
[15:45] <joshuah> the reason i need .deb is because it won't open frostwire
[15:45] <joshuah> without it
[15:45] <daz31> tried the reboot= fix on menu.lst still same prob
[15:45] <joshuah> unless i'm on windows and i 'm not going back too that crap
[15:45] <joshuah> lol
[15:45] <joshuah> %C11
[15:45] <XxDanixX> hola
[15:45] <dholbach> UBUNTU DEVELOPER WEEK Session starting in #ubuntu-classroom in 15 minutes!
[15:45] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[15:46] <joshuah> forget it i will just use crossover linux
[15:46] <joshuah> lol
[15:46] <dgjones> joshuah, have you tried installing the  sun-java6-jre package via synaptic? that will give you the correct version and install it for you
[15:46] <youngmusi1> Hey, has anyone ever had this install problem? When writing the partition table, i get the message: input/output error during read on /dev/sda
[15:46] <sknh> bazhang, InsClusoe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56752/
[15:46] <joshuah> hey dgjones
[15:46] <joshuah> i need synapatic how i obtain it?
[15:46] <prince_jammys> joshuah: try::: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[15:47] <joshuah> ok in a terminal?
[15:47] <spaceninja> why use apt-get when you got synaptics?
[15:47] <prince_jammys> yes
[15:47] <dgjones> !synaptic | joshuah, If you're using Ubuntu, you'll have have synaptic
[15:47] <ubotu> joshuah, If you're using Ubuntu, you'll have have synaptic: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[15:47] <joshuah> because it came with apt get first
[15:47] <prince_jammys> because i can paste it here easily
[15:47] <luisa> System--> Administration --> Synaptic, if you are on Ubuntu
[15:47] <brobostigon> joshuah: in a terminal type. gksudo synaptic
[15:47] <joshuah> and its a new install lol
[15:47] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628366 daz31 is your hardware or graphics similar to those in this post? 5500 nvidia card, athlon processor or the like?
[15:47] <spaceninja> so apt-get isn't synaptics?
[15:47] <Pici> spaceninja: They're all the same.
[15:48] <spaceninja> yeah but why use apt-get then?
[15:48] <Pici> spaceninja: They all use apt to get stuff from the repositories, just different front ends.
[15:48] <spaceninja> isn't ubuntu all about being point and click?
[15:48] <luisa> I use apt-get because I hate GUI... it's all a personal preference... :)
[15:48] <Pici> spaceninja: I find it faster to type apt-get install package than to open up a program.
[15:48] <joshuah> no ubuntu is all about install it urself
[15:48] <luisa> What Pici said
[15:48] <spaceninja> luisa: If you hate guis, get arch linux
[15:48] <joshuah> and learn lol
[15:48] <dgjones> spaceninja, one is command line, the has a graphical system, not everybody used a graphical system - eg server installs
[15:48] <prince_jammys> spaceninja: they are the same thing ... it's a matter of preference, and it's easier to communicate command line in irc
[15:48] <brunner> so by adjust the apt sources on the live cd, the installer will use the new sources, right?
[15:49] <gavin__> can I upgrade from feisty to gutsy gibbon with a gutsy cd and not an alternate cd
[15:49] <luisa> Well, for some things it's easier and faster to point and click, for other things such as say, apt-get install firefox, that's faster than doing a stupid search in Synaptic, but Joshuah needs help so... *zip!*
[15:49] <joshuah> man yall need too go too a easy linux
[15:49] <joshuah> if u dont' no ubuntu
[15:49] <joshuah> lol
[15:49] <luisa> Awww but I love my Ubuntu Studio... *hugs Ubutu :3*
[15:50] <bazhang> sknh well you have feisty backports in there but they are commented out--should be okay to run just curious why they are there--might want to completely remove them just to be totally safe
[15:50] <joshuah> ya id love too try ubuntu ultimate
[15:50] <joshuah> is that any good?
[15:50] <daz31> bazhang:  nope I have a basic intel 1mb graphics card 256mb the install of gutsy is from a cd 3 days ago havent had a successful shutdown yet
[15:50] <daz31> 256mb=memory
[15:50] <joshuah> daz get off 256 mb's
[15:50] <faileas> joshuah: probablt best to go for the basic version and add things as you need them
[15:50] <joshuah> get more memory
[15:50] <joshuah> lol
[15:50] <sknh> bazhang, I upgraded from Fiesty to Gutsy. May be that's the reason they are there
[15:50] <daz31> :)
[15:50] <bazhang> joshuah: how about using tab completion and the enter key a bit less
[15:51] <bazhang> sknh it seems that you should be okay then looking at your sources list
[15:51] <joshuah> if u say so bazhang
[15:51] <bazhang> thanks joshuah
[15:51] <joshuah> but u use it just as much
[15:52] <joshuah> i know its hard too keep up with everyone in here
[15:52] <sknh> ok I will go ahead and install the updates shown by the Update Manager then
[15:52] <sknh> bazhang, thanks
[15:52] <bazhang> np
[15:52] <daz31> is there another way to shutdown except the system/quit way
[15:52] <luisa> shutdown -r now?
[15:52] <Thirsteh> daz31, sudo halt
[15:52] <tux_> Hello.. Now i have installed ubuntu 7.10 64 with alternative cd.. The grub loader is okay and the ubuntu seems to startx but the screen goes into sleep mode on hp dv 9000 series
[15:52] <seyacat> hi ubuntus
[15:52] <spaceninja> -h
[15:52] <brobostigon> daz31: sudo shutdown -h now
[15:52] <dgjones> daz31, if you can get to a command line, sudo shutdown -h now
[15:52] <daz31> thanks i'll try that and then come back
[15:53] <spaceninja> -r = reboot
[15:53] <sknh> bazhang, but why does it say the updates are not authenticated when they are from ubuntu's sources?
[15:53] <gavin__> what is an alternative cd
[15:53] <seyacat> i have a noob question, what is the difference between /bin/bash and /bin/sh ??
[15:53] <Thirsteh> or just 'sudo reboot' or 'sudo halt' :)
[15:53] <jpatrick> UBUNTU DEVELOPER WEEK Session starting in #ubuntu-classroom in 8 minutes
[15:53] <bazhang> daz31: you could try from the terminal and see what error messages that gives--I tend to agree with joshuah though that if you could up the ram a bit it would help out a lot
[15:53]  * luisa goes out for her needed coffee :P
[15:53] <prince_jammys> !alternative | gavin__
[15:53] <ubotu> gavin__: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[15:53] <joshuah> wine or cross over linux i'm telling ya thats wat u need
[15:53] <prince_jammys> seyacat: they use different shells
[15:54] <luisa> I'm trying to make Guild Wars work with Wine... But I've never used Wine before, this is going to be fun :)
[15:54] <brobostigon> wine is free, crossover is not free
[15:54] <gavin__> thanks
[15:54] <joshuah> ya more ram is gonna help u so much
[15:54] <seyacat> prince_jammys:  what is better to make a simple recurrent script??
[15:54] <bazhang> sknh trying to remember here ;] I tend to live on the wild side and ignore those warnings so never really worried about if before--I sure those more wise than myself can clarify that
[15:54] <joshuah> i just bought 2 256 mb of ram off ebay  for 40 dollars
[15:55] <joshuah> so if u need it get it from there
[15:55] <joshuah> lol
[15:55] <prince_jammys> seyacat: either should work- bash is the default shell in ubuntu. i would use that. check:  http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/classes/ksh/ksh-vs-sh.html
[15:55] <spaceninja> my cat is lost :(
[15:55] <gavin__> so can I then use the normal cd to upgrade or do I have to reinstall gutsy over feisty
[15:55] <joshuah> otherwise u gonna pay a lot lot more at a store
[15:55] <dgjones> !who | joshuah
[15:55] <ubotu> joshuah: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:55] <seyacat> prince_jammys: TY :)
[15:55] <youngmusi1> I get this message during installation, while partitioning: input/output error during read on /dev/sda. What could that mean? I first thought my hd would be broken, but I have tried 3 new ones and they all give the same message.
[15:55] <joshuah> talking too those of u that ain't got enough memory
[15:56] <joshuah> complaining about ubuntu not shutting down
[15:56] <sknh> bazhang, even I never used to worry but now I cannot afford to get into trouble, need to have access to my system all the time and cannot afford to spend time troubleshooting unnecessary problems
[15:57] <esox> Hi, I would like to know how to make that my USB devices are mounted always at the same address (/dev/input/event* and /dev/snd/midiC*D0)
[15:57] <sknh> one more question that I have
[15:57] <sknh> DHCP on my ubuntu seems to have some problem
[15:57] <sloopy> is the UFS fs (specifically FreeBSD) on the install CD's?
[15:58] <bazhang> gavin__:  the alt cd may be able to help out there-many folks just upgrade from feisty to gutsy via the internet--you can of course download gutsy and overwrite everything but unless you have a seperate home partition then and have backed up everything might be a bit too painful ;]
[15:58] <sknh> I get an IP assigned as soon as I plug in my LAN cable on windows
[15:58] <sknh> but on Ubuntu it takes a long time
[15:58] <tux_> How can i unistall a ubuntu thats not working on dual boot pc with vista.. or how can i mange to get X to work,, UBUNTU starts but i have black screen..
[15:58] <sknh> sometimes, this time spans to a few hours
[15:58] <bazhang> sknh check details for what the non authenticated packages are and let us know here briefly
[15:58] <sknh> so wondering if there is any setting that I didn't get right on Ubuntu
[15:58] <joshuah> tux try install a linux distro again
[15:58] <buzzinfly> anyone know if it's possible to get better resolution than 1024x768 on a lenovo x61s?
[15:58] <brobostigon> sknh: you could run dhclient manually when you connet it up,
[15:58] <Nikolas_|> nikolasandreou@localhost:~$ sudo g++ boost_asio_0_3_9/libs/system/src/error_code.cpp -c -o /usr/lib/libboost_system.a
[15:58] <Nikolas_|> sudo: g++: command not found
[15:58] <Nikolas_|> idead?
[15:59] <joshuah> then try wipping it out with windows xp
[15:59] <Nikolas_|> ideas*?
[15:59] <joshuah> that worked for me
[15:59] <Pici> !compile | Nikolas_|
[15:59] <ubotu> Nikolas_|: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[15:59] <bazhang> tux_: what is your card and what driver are you using for it--graphics that is
[15:59] <joshuah> cause for some reason if u got both u cant' just run off the windows cd
[15:59] <joshuah> ive tried that
[15:59] <brunner> is there any way to make the ubuntu installer use online apt repositories without using the mini.iso?
[15:59] <tux_> ihave installed the 64bit with alternative...
[16:00] <tux_> nvidia geforce
[16:00] <sknh> brobostigon, I try to disable and re enable DHCP from the GUI. wont' that help?
[16:00] <tux_> 850
[16:00] <joshuah> well then tux i dunno about that
[16:00] <joshuah> i myself using a ati
[16:00] <dgjones> !install | brunner, You could maybe use the netinstall option in this link
[16:00] <ubotu> brunner, You could maybe use the netinstall option in this link: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:00] <bazhang> brunner it is only 9MB and if you are referring to your damaged full ubuntu live  cd installer then no
[16:00] <daz31> bazhang: no good same 'ubuntu logo black screen freeze'  for the record I can restart ok just not shutdown
[16:00] <brobostigon> sknh: i have never done it via gui, so no idea??
[16:00] <sknh> brobostigon, okay
[16:00] <tux_> fuck then i cant use ubuntu on my brand new laptop.. fuck,,,,,
[16:00] <joshuah> daz u need too listen too wat me and baz are telling u
[16:01] <bazhang> daz31 you tried from the terminal? what errors did it give? could you be more precise
[16:01] <joshuah> haha
[16:01] <sknh> brobostigon, I will try it next time I have to connect
[16:01] <bazhang> tux_: language please
[16:01] <brunner> bazhang: for some reason, the mini iso didn't work.
[16:01] <Nikolas_|> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:01] <Nikolas_|> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[16:01] <brunner> and I can't burn another CD at this point anyhow, as I don't have a working computer
[16:01] <bazhang> brunner: didn;t work? could you elaborate please?
[16:02] <sknh> I see a lot of discussion here going on about nvidia and all
[16:02] <neverblue> morning
[16:02] <Guest63820> sup
[16:02] <daz31> i tried from terminal the pc shutsdown to the point where the black ubuntu logo comes up
[16:02] <sknh> so I remember that I installed nvidia's driver using Envy when I was using Fiesty
[16:02] <brobostigon> Nikolas_|: run it with sudo
[16:02] <joshuah> ya go ati
[16:02] <bazhang> sknh yes, only ati uses more of the space here ;]
[16:02] <Nikolas_|> i run it with sudo
[16:02] <prince_jammys> Nikolas_|: you have no package applications running?
[16:02] <joshuah> never had problems with it on ubuntu :P
[16:02] <brunner> bazhang: there was an error of some sort when it was installing the packages
[16:02] <sknh> later I upgraded to Gutsy and the driver from Envy remained
[16:02] <sknh> Now, I believe I won't be getting any updates to the driver
[16:03] <neverblue> sknh, ah the fun with working with Envy
[16:03] <neverblue> !envy
[16:03] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[16:03] <bazhang> sknh envy is generally reviled in this channel
[16:03] <SpacePilot> Trying to find how to install the correct drivers for a Audigy 2 ZS soundcard. Anyone feel like helping?
[16:03] <bazhang> brunner please be more precise
[16:03] <Guest63820> can sum one get me some help here?
[16:03] <joshuah> ya space
[16:03] <sknh> How do I replace this driver with the one provided by Gutsy (Ubuntu)
[16:03] <joshuah> right here lol
[16:04] <Nikolas_|> prince_jammys: no idea
[16:04] <bazhang> brunner if you say there was an error of some sort then we can not offer any decent help
[16:04] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | Nikolas_|
[16:04] <ubotu> Nikolas_|: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:04] <sknh> I would really appreciate if anyone could point me to some instructions which will help me do the switch
[16:04] <ss_> I am using Ubuntu Gusty, I have uninstalled beryl packages from my system (by default installed eye-candy packages) now I have a problem of windows border, whenever I start my system my window borders are not there, I found a solution on forums "metacity --replace" but I have to give this command at each system start and when I close the terminal the situation goes back so I have to permanently run this command in terminal with no exit. Any ideas to solve it?
[16:04] <brunner> bazhang: after the stage when I had to select which software packages I wanted, it presented some sort of generic error stating the the download failed or that a packaged failed to install.  later on, the grub install failed as well.
[16:04]  * han_123 needs help T_T huhuh
[16:04] <joshuah> us.creative.com/support/downloads/
[16:04] <Pici> !ask | han_123
[16:04] <ubotu> han_123: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:05] <joshuah> who ever was asking for drivers about creative zs
[16:05] <joshuah> go too that link
[16:05] <Bad_boy> HI GUys, I am a newbie. I have a question, Ubuntu froze on me, earlier. Is there a command to unfreeze? like in windows ctrl+alt+del
[16:05] <romeo78> Enter text here...slm
[16:05] <prince_jammys> no no
[16:05] <romeo78> tukey
[16:05] <capricorn^80> hi ! how can i hide my ip and dns when using irc client using http tunnel like softwares
[16:05] <bazhang> brunner you burned the minimal cd iso to disk?
[16:05] <prince_jammys> !tr | romeo78
[16:05] <ubotu> romeo78: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[16:05] <AckerMANn> Hellow, i have one question: i want to give more instructions in one line, how i can separate it ? example: #cd /var/tmp after that ls (in one line)
[16:05]  * han_123 PM PICI >.<
[16:05] <brunner> bazhang: yes. yesterday.
[16:06] <brobostigon> capricorn^80: try tor
[16:06] <romeo78> nbr
[16:06] <youngmusi1> AckerMANn: use ; between them
[16:06] <EADG> AckerMANn: cmd 1 && cmd 2
[16:06] <dgjones> !cloak | capricorn^80
[16:06] <^CatMan^> ss_: u can edit ur ~/.bash_profile to give that command for u everytime u log in, and that should fix the problem
[16:06] <ubotu> capricorn^80: Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[16:06] <AckerMANn> 10x !!!
[16:06] <bazhang> brunner you said that the disk was damaged; is this a different disk? if so, which one is the damaged one?
[16:06] <han_123> wee
[16:06] <SpacePilot> joshuah: This is what it says: "Sorry, no Creative updates are available for the selected query."
[16:07] <han_123> can sum1 who have time help me?
[16:07] <capricorn^80> brobostigon: how ?
[16:07] <prince_jammys> AckerMANn: yes, && will only execute second command if the first was successful
[16:07] <buzzinfly> resolution on x61s anyone?
[16:07] <Bad_boy> bazhang: hi is there a command to get out of Ubuntu when it freezes, like ctrl+alt+del
[16:07] <bob__> Bad_boy, you can try ctr + alt + f2, then login with your user name and password at the prompt. In the bash shell type: kill -9 -1 , this will kill all processes.
[16:07] <AckerMANn> prince_jammys: 10x man for instruction ! :)
[16:07] <Shinji-> Bad_boy, you could try ctrl+alt+backspace (kills your X)
[16:07] <brobostigon> capricorn^80: look it up on google or wikipedia , that will expplain
[16:07] <noodlesgc> !ask | han_123
[16:07] <ubotu> han_123: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:07] <bullgard4> "$ lspci; ... 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1." "~$ lsmod | grep video; video 18060 0." Is 'video' the name of my video driver?
[16:07] <bob__> Bad_boy, after all processes are killed Gnome or KDE or whatever window manager you use should restart
[16:07] <han_123> how can i install VMware in ubuntu?(newbie here)
[16:07] <ss_> ^CatMan^: You mean I will have to paste it in bash profile ok I do it. Thnx for reply
[16:08] <brunner> bazhang: I'm running off of the live cd, which is obviously not the minimal cd.  There is only one cd drive that I can boot from, and I'm using it now.
[16:08] <bazhang> was it alt sysreq reisub? that has never worked for me though
[16:08] <franke> hi all
[16:08] <prince_jammys> bazhang: yes that restarts everything, even more radical
[16:08] <daz31> does ubuntu use less cpu that win xp?
[16:08] <luisa> My Ubuntu does! xD
[16:08] <prince_jammys> bazhang: dont remember if you need ctrl in there also
[16:08] <gdfuego> hey folks, I'm looking to find out what the chances are of bugs 153210 and 159020 being corrected in Gutsy at some point soon?
[16:09] <brunner> daz31: it all depends on what you're doing, but I'd imagine that the consensus here it that ubuntu uses less.
[16:09] <gdfuego> They're both the same sisue.  pidgin doesn't send jabber passwords unless you tell it to save them
[16:09] <bazhang> brunner I would suggest trying the minimal burn again--it seems that you burned it at the wrong speed or the media itself is faulty
[16:09] <nonnii> bullgard4, "grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[16:09] <^CatMan^> Bad_boy: there are also other virtual terminals accessed thru "alt+F[1-6]"... if  linux freezes, u can use these other virtuial terminals to kill the nonresponsive program :)
[16:09] <gdfuego> so you need to store your password if you want to authenticate to a jabber server
[16:09] <bazhang> prince_jammys: right you are--forgot about that ;]
[16:09] <^CatMan^> ss_: np :)
[16:09] <Ltlbgr67> I need some help
[16:09] <capricorn^80> ubotu: i use http-tunnel software on window
[16:09] <cali_> hi!
[16:09] <brunner> bazhang: okay, thanks.
[16:09] <gdfuego> The bug has existed since at least October, and its causing all sorts of problems at work
[16:09] <prince_jammys> bazhang: dont try it :)
[16:09] <Pici> capricorn^80: ubotu is a bot... not a person.
[16:10] <Bad_boy> bob__: cheers bob wrote these command down, stick on my monitor
[16:10] <capricorn^80> sorry :P
[16:10] <Bad_boy> Shinji-: hi thanks
[16:10] <^CatMan^> Pici: lol, i was waitin to see how long it was gonna take for him to figure that out :P
[16:10] <Ltlbgr67> is there a way to edit the shutdown procedure?
[16:10] <xukun> when I move the mouse the window I,m working on it like xchat now disappears at the background. It was not like that before. How I change that?
[16:10]  * han_123 someone please spare time with me please i really need help and im a newbie
[16:10] <^CatMan^> sry, capricorn^80 :) lol
[16:10] <Ltlbgr67> I want it to cancel all printjobs on shutdsown
[16:11] <xukun> rrr
[16:11] <leeping2007> Hi there, what's the easy way for me to synchronize the clients' clock with the clock on the server?
[16:11] <xukun> sorry I see its not clear
[16:11] <leeping2007> Err, what's the easiest way?
[16:11] <luisa> daz31, I am running Amarok, Cinepaint & Agabe, Firefox with 23 tabs, and running LAMPP, CPU usage says  7% + 4% (dual core) and memory used is ~300 out of 2GB
[16:11] <bob__> Bad_boy, ^CatMan^ 's response was also very useful
[16:11] <brobostigon> han_123: fire aaway, what the problem??
[16:11] <ejer> leeping2007: ntpdate pool.ntp.org on all systems
[16:11] <^CatMan^> bob__: that's the way that i run my system :)
[16:11] <leeping2007> ejer: thanks :)
[16:12] <SpacePilot> Need help with getting driver for a Audigy 2 ZS soundcard(The link joshuah posted ain't helping).
[16:12] <^CatMan^> Uptime: 7 days and 24 minutes
[16:12] <han_123> can you teach me how to install VMware iin ubuntu? im really having a hard time here
[16:12] <xukun> when I move the mouse from the window I,m working on it like xchat now it disappears to the background. It was not like that before. How I change it so the window disappears only when I click?
[16:12] <brobostigon> !vmware | han_123
[16:12] <ubotu> han_123: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[16:12] <bob__> ^CatMan^, im such a quick sloppy easy kinda guy
[16:12] <xukun> when I click somewhere else
[16:12] <bob__> that sounded horrible
[16:12] <Ace_NoOne> hi there - I just bought a 250 GB external HDD, which I need to use to transfer data between Linux and Windows - what file system should I use?
[16:12] <bob__> back to work
[16:13] <bob__> peace folks.
[16:13] <^CatMan^> bob__: roflmao!
[16:13] <bullgard4> nonnii: This outputs "kbd, mouse, synaptics, wacom, wacom and vesa". So is 'vesa' the name of my video driver?
[16:13] <^CatMan^> c ya bob
[16:13] <nonnii> bullgard4, ye
[16:13] <nonnii> yes
[16:13] <Ltlbgr67> can someone help this newbie?
[16:13] <ejer> Ace_NoOne: you can just leave it as fat
[16:13] <Bad_boy> catman thanks for that
[16:13] <brobostigon> Ace_NoOne: a file system both linux and windows understands, probebely ntfs is the best option
[16:13] <^CatMan^> Ltlbgr67: eith what?
[16:13] <gavin__> my openoffice base does not work properly in feisty, can i upgrade from the gusty cd. If yes, how
[16:13] <prince_jammys> !anyone | Ltlbgr67
[16:13] <ubotu> Ltlbgr67: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:13] <^CatMan^> Bad_boy: np :)
[16:13] <luisa> Ace_NoOne why not NTFS?
[16:13] <Ltlbgr67> is there a way to edit the shutdown procedure to cancel pending print jobs?
[16:14] <Ace_NoOne> brobostigon / luisa: I remember there used to be issues with NTFS under Linux - not anymore?
[16:14] <Ltlbgr67> or create a icon to click to run terminal comm and
[16:14] <bullgard4> nonnii: Thank you very much.
[16:14] <nonnii> bullgard4, you will get bettr performance with either radeon, ati or fglrx drivers
[16:14] <kostkon> SpacePilot, i think your card is supported by alsa already. you don't need any driver
[16:14] <brobostigon> Ace_NoOne: no problem anymore, look up ntfs3g
[16:14] <luisa> Ace_NoOne, not anymore... atleast I haven't had any. I don't need to, but I use NTFS on my USB drive.. write to it, FTP to it... never had a problem :)
[16:14] <Ace_NoOne> cool - thanks guys
[16:14] <Ace_NoOne> and gals :)
[16:14] <luisa> ^_^
[16:15] <noodlesgc> gavin__ yes you can upgrade using the cd but you need the alternate cd
[16:15] <nonnii> bullgard4, you have to ask someone else for help with those if you need it
[16:15] <ejer> Ace_NoOne: you can also use ext2/3 there is windows driver, works fine
[16:16] <^CatMan^> ejer: i didn't think windows can read the ext2/3 file systems
[16:16] <ejer> with a driver they can, just like linux can read ntfs
[16:16] <gavin__> noodlesgc_I am on dial-up so I cant download the iso, would I have to install gutsy instead?
[16:16] <luisa> I'd probably use the FS of the OS I use the most: If Im going to use Win more often, then make the drive NTFS, if using *nix more, then use EXT3.. better benefits, me thinks
[16:16] <dgjones> ^CatMan^, http://www.fs-driver.org/ lets windows access ext2/3 formatted drives
[16:16] <sdsheeks> Anyone know of a suitable application to work with Microsoft project files in Linux?
[16:17] <ejer> ^CatMan^: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[16:17] <^CatMan^> ejer: well i knew that linux can read the ntfs and fat file systems :)
[16:17] <ejer> oops
[16:17] <prince_jammys> Ltlbgr67: if you want to create a launcher icon that runs a command, i think you can do that in Preferences->Menu Editor and add item.  check if that works
[16:17] <noodlesgc> gavin__ so you just want to upgrade openoffice?
[16:17] <ejer> good stuff ^CatMan^
[16:17] <^CatMan^> hmmm... cool
[16:17] <gavin__> noodlesgc_yes
[16:17] <^CatMan^> i guess ya learn something new every day, huh?
[16:17] <Docfxit> How can I enable universe repositories
[16:17] <Ace_NoOne> ejer: yeah, but I won't always be able to install the drivers on any workstation I'm on
[16:17] <ejer> Ace_NoOne: there is a reason they use FAT...
[16:18] <ejer> and it is what you just said
[16:18] <luisa> Docfxit System>Administration>Software Sources
[16:18] <Ace_NoOne> ejer: "they"?
[16:18] <ejer> because you will have to install ntfs-3g on every linux system you want to use it on
[16:18] <Ace_NoOne> also, the Windows XP system I'm on right now didn't let me choose FAT32
[16:18] <Neeku> hi
[16:18] <ejer> Ace_NoOne: people who make external drives
[16:18] <luisa> Hi Neeku :)
[16:18] <Ace_NoOne> ejer: this one wasn't formatted (bought the HDD and case separately)
[16:19] <Neeku> i want to install windows on virtualbox; but it gives this error: fatal: no bootable medium found. system halted.
[16:19] <Docfxit> luisa » Thanks, I'll try it.
[16:19] <SpacePilot> Ubuntu 7.10 detects my Autidyg 2 ZS, but no sound is entering my headphones?
[16:19] <noodlesgc> gavin__ I dont know if that is possible, you may have to download an upgrade from openoffice.org
[16:19] <ejer> Ace_NoOne: i   dosfstools                      - Utilities to create and check MS-DOS FAT f
[16:19] <Pici> Neeku: You may want to ask that in #vbox :)
[16:19] <^CatMan^> Neeku: is the disk ur bootin from bootable?
[16:19] <Neeku> ^CatMan^: yes
[16:19] <Ace_NoOne> thanks ejer - I guess I'll try it with NTFS first tho (FAT32 is so ... ancient)
[16:20] <gavin__> noodlesgc_OK thanks. I will give it a go.
[16:20] <kostkon> SpacePilot, did you check your volume levels?
[16:20] <^CatMan^> Ace_NoOne: IF i were gonna run windows, i'd want the fat32 f/s
[16:20] <ejer> NTFS is pretty old too, that is considered good for a FS :)
[16:20] <drago> ciao
[16:20] <Ace_NoOne> ^CatMan^: why
[16:21] <Ace_NoOne> ejer: but is has restrictions (no files >4 GB IIRC)
[16:21] <Ace_NoOne> FAT32 that is
[16:21] <ejer> fat32 is the only one you can plug into mac, linux or windows, and have it work
[16:21] <Ace_NoOne> Mac - pfui! ;)
[16:21] <^CatMan^> Ace_NoOne: i prefer fat32 to ntfs, personal choice
[16:21]  * luisa is wondering how to enable Next/Previous buttons on her Logitech mouse to work with Amarok (shortcut config didnt work) *ponder*  Volume up/down works, why won't those :P
[16:21] <ejer> and ntfs driver is not rock solid imo
[16:21] <^CatMan^> but since i'm runnin gutsy, that's not an issue :)
[16:21] <Rampdog> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC--anyone have any experience with this error at boot-up?
[16:22] <Ace_NoOne> ejer: how so - any chance of data corruption??
[16:22] <^CatMan^> and i don't every use any files that are > 4 GB :)
[16:22] <ejer> Ace_NoOne: sure there is chance I trashed a bunch of files last time I tried
[16:22] <ejer> but that was a year or so ago
[16:23] <Ace_NoOne> ejer: well, now you're scaring me
[16:23] <luisa> Wait, what FS has problems with files over 4gb? O.o
[16:23] <potato> hello i use ubuntu 7.10 and i want to install windows xp on the same drive ubuntu is on, the whole drive is used for ubuntu how can i go about resizeing the partitions to make windows detect it
[16:23] <^CatMan^> lol eje, here we go :D
[16:23] <Trashlord> Hi, my sound card is an EMU 1212m, I have the new ALSA and all it's utilities. The sound card does get detected, and plays sound. Except for when I play music, the pitch has shifted to a higher speed. ie, the music is suddenly faster, could it be because the drive with all my music uses the NTS file system?
[16:23] <ejer> if you want stability, use a native filesystem to operating system
[16:23] <ejer> make 2 partitions
[16:23] <voltage> is it hard to add my login name to the sudoers list?
[16:23] <Ace_NoOne> :(
[16:23] <potato> i did but i dont know ware to mount it
[16:24] <potato> i mounthed it as c windows
[16:24] <potato> i used the ubuntu live cd to rezice
[16:24] <^CatMan^> voltage: not at all...
[16:24] <potato> i couldent get it to wrok...
[16:24] <sean__> hey
[16:24] <sean__> can somebody tell me how to install Office2003 wth wine???
[16:24] <sean__> please
[16:24] <voltage> excellent ^CatMan^
[16:24] <^CatMan^> voltage: add ur longin to the /etc/sudoers file :D
[16:24] <potato> sean got to windehq
[16:24] <luisa> potato, on live cd, sudo apt-get qtparted, rezise partition to accomodate windows,... install... add windows to grub... Ill post Linky in a lil bit, looking for it
[16:25] <sean__> WINE is confussing me :s
[16:25] <potato> winehq
[16:25] <sean__> ok potato
[16:25] <ejer> voltage: visudo as root user
[16:25] <potato> ok
[16:25] <potato> cool
[16:25] <prince_jammys> sean__: have you installed any other applications with wine?
[16:25] <dgjones> sean__, its probably worth joining #winehq for that
[16:25] <^CatMan^> sean__: if u want an office suite, why not use openoffice? :)
[16:25] <ltsampros> hello fellow ubuntu ysers
[16:25] <ejer> voltage: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/01/allowing-limited-sudo-access-with-visudo/
[16:25] <Docfxit> luisa » What is supposed to be checked in System>Administration>Software Sources to enable universe repositories
[16:26] <sean__> ^CatMan^, i need certain things for skool lol
[16:26] <sean__> prince_jammys, no
[16:26] <voltage> my objective is to be able to remotly add files to my web server
[16:26] <ejer> like what sean, most things work in OO
[16:26] <voltage> right now I can only view
[16:26] <luisa> Doxfxit:  Community maintained Open Source Software (universe)
[16:26] <prince_jammys> sean_ and you are installing from a cd?
[16:26] <^CatMan^> sean__: i understand that, but openoffice does everything that ms office will do, and even more ;)
[16:26] <crush_groove>  My compiz has been working well for months .. out of the blue I am reeiving this error and I have no headers to my pages ( headers = close minimize ect ..and I cant move the pages at all.. http://pastebin.ca/911249
[16:26] <Docfxit> luisa » Great. Tx.
[16:27] <luisa> :)
[16:27] <ltsampros> guys one quick question. i have added packages via apt-get from unofficial repos like ppa.launchpad.net and a coouple of others. Is it possible to remove with an automated way all the packages by these repos? (and leave the original/gutsy 7.10 packages intact)
[16:27] <mino> !compiz | crush_groove
[16:27] <ubotu> crush_groove: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:27] <kthakore> My gutsy box froze twice (then I had to restart it and it gave me filesystem errors with fsck and a kernel panic)  today where can I find out what went wrong?
[16:27] <crush_groove> compiz fusion couldnt help me .. but thank you for the reference
[16:27] <Q_Continuum> Bluetooth issues: Using the GUI, I've gotten the Apple Wireless Keyboard added, but it won't 'connect' so I'm trying command line options, (sudo hidd --search) then typing in the passkey on the keyboard, getting prompted by Ubuntu, entering the key, and then get 'Can't create HID control channel: connection refused'
[16:28] <prince_jammys> sean__: ?
[16:28] <mino> crush_groove: why they cant help you? No answer on your question or did they say its a ubuntu related problem?
so after i instal windows ill need to boot to ubuntu and add windows to the boot loader?
[16:29] <voltage> this is what I have in my sudoers file
[16:29] <voltage> http://paste.lisp.org/display/56210
[16:29] <^CatMan^> potato: yup
[16:29] <naruse> hi, how do i solve the problem that the acpid daemon is eating my cpu, i've searched in the forums without any luck T_T
[16:29] <potato> mk
Yes, I believe you could do it from live cd
[16:29] <potato> ok
[16:29] <luisa> a google search for "how to edit grub" should tell you how
[16:29] <potato> alrighty
[16:29] <potato> ill get to it then thanks bunches
[16:29] <prince_jammys> !grub | potato
[16:29] <MasterShrek> !grub
[16:29] <ubotu> potato: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:29] <luisa> better yet, "how to add windows to grub"
[16:30] <mino> !acpi | naruse
[16:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:30] <potato> hmm
[16:30] <IndyGunFreak> potato: there's a line in the wiki that addresses that, hang on a sed.
[16:30] <IndyGunFreak> *sec
[16:30] <prince_jammys> potato: check that if you are about to install windows
[16:30] <kthakore> My gutsy box froze twice today where can I find out what went wrong?  (then I had to restart it and it gave me filesystem errors with fsck and a kernel panic)
[16:30] <potato> ok
[16:30] <crush_groove> how to save and exit in nano
[16:31] <luisa> By "recovering" it doesnt mean that ubuntu is broken, it just means that you need to tell your computer how to access it, since Windows will overwrite the MBR
[16:31] <MasterShrek> crush_groove, ctrl+x
[16:31] <IndyGunFreak> potato: did you lose grub afgter installing windows, or are you trying to add windows to your grub menu?
[16:31] <naruse> !acpi ???..if i disable it my wireless stops working :S mino
[16:31] <bitchisback> does edubuntu has everything and more than ubuntu?
[16:31] <bitchisback> like restricted driver
[16:31] <EADG> crush_groove: there are a couple of ways, ctrl+x , Y, enter is one. make sure to read the prompts...to be safe.
[16:31] <potato> i havent installed windows yet
[16:31] <potato> im going to
[16:32] <MasterShrek> bitchisback, just extra software by default, all of which is available to a regular ubuntu install
[16:32] <Pici> bitchisback: No, it just offers some educational software pre-installed.
[16:32] <IndyGunFreak> potato: oh ok, so your'e gonna install windows, gotcha....
[16:32] <Pici> !edubuntu | bitchisback
[16:32] <ubotu> bitchisback: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[16:32] <IndyGunFreak> potato: do you have a lot of work done on your Ubuntu install?
[16:32] <potato> yeah
[16:32] <potato> well right now i need it for work
[16:33]  * ^CatMan^ is sleepin: Gone away for now.
[16:33] <IndyGunFreak> potato: no, i mean, a lot of things that youv'e done customizing your ubuntu desktop?..w hat i'ms aying is, if its a fairly new install, it might be easier to install Windows, let it take over the whole hard drive, then reinstall ubuntu, and use it to partition the drive, etc.
[16:33] <bitchisback> Pici what about gui
[16:33]  * luisa resists impulse to pet teh sleeping cat
[16:33] <potato> well ive installed irc compiz fusion tons of updates
[16:34] <Pici> !away > Cat_Sleepin (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:34] <potato> its not a fresh intall
[16:34] <Pici> bitchisback: It uses Gnome I believe.
[16:34] <IndyGunFreak> potato: well,t hats all stuff that can be reinstalled in a few minutes, you can do as you please, just sayin it might be easier.
[16:34] <daz31> bazhang:  i can 'restart' then -c for grub command and type halt for shutdown
[16:34] <potato> so should i plug in a ethernet cord when i reinstall ubuntu
[16:34] <Le-Chuck_ITA> do some of you own an eee pc
[16:34] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ?
[16:35] <bitchisback> Pici what about default wallpaper
[16:35] <mad_max02> I do
[16:35] <daz31> checked net i think it is an intel graphics card problem
[16:35] <IndyGunFreak> potato: well, do you want it to ercognize your internet connection?
[16:35] <bazhang> #eeepc has the answer there Le-Chuck_ITA and yes I do
[16:35] <potato> couse i dident last time i just went to boot from hd then got my iwirless card working
[16:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> mad_max02: can it boot ubuntu live on sd card?
[16:35] <potato> it will know the ethernet
[16:35] <Pici> bitchisback: I have no idea, I've never installed it, perhaps the folks in #edubuntu can tell you
[16:35] <mysterycool>  i need help getting ubuntu to work
[16:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> thanks bazhang coming there
[16:35] <potato> just wireless
[16:35] <IndyGunFreak> potato: ok, you can do it however you want i guess.
[16:35] <mad_max02> Le-Chuck_ITA, you can install ubuntu on it. there is a eeebuntu or something like it
[16:35] <ejer> Le-Chuck_ITA: yes
[16:35] <IndyGunFreak> mysterycool: be a bit more specific.
[16:35] <mad_max02> I have Vista on it coz I gave it to wife
[16:36] <brobostigon> mysterycool: fire away, what the question??
[16:36] <Shinji-> !grub | allaert
[16:36] <ubotu> allaert: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:36] <Shinji-> !grub > allaert
[16:36] <mysterycool> brobstigon: well i downlaoded the packages but no idea how to get up apache running with mysql/php :s
[16:36] <rblst> how can i set my webcam parameters (gamma, colors, etc.) in Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:37] <mysterycool> ive checked the link i got from here
[16:37] <brobostigon> mysterycool: can help you there, never used apache
[16:37] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: did you try the guide?
[16:37] <ejer> mysterycool: use 'sudo tasksel' tick off LAMP server and hit OK
[16:37] <brobostigon> cant i mean, sorry
[16:37] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ejer: thanks do you have some howto to point to me? I started making a fat32 partition on the sd, now I should copy all the files from the iso and then I bet I have to use syslinux but don't know what to pass to it :)
[16:37] <mysterycool> prince_jammys: what guide?
[16:37] <mysterycool> :S
[16:37] <ejer> Le-Chuck_ITA: http://wiki.eeeuser.com has all info
[16:37] <prince_jammys> !lamp | mysterycool
[16:37] <ubotu> mysterycool: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:37] <mysterycool> checked that one
[16:37] <ejer> Le-Chuck_ITA: no syslinux, grub
[16:38] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: can you browse to localhost?
[16:38] <ltsampros> guys one quick question. i have added packages via apt-get from unofficial repos like ppa.launchpad.net and a coouple of others. Is it possible to remove with an automated way all the packages by these repos? (and leave the original/gutsy 7.10 packages intact)?
[16:38] <mysterycool> prince_jammys: no
[16:38] <Le-Chuck_ITA> grub? ejer do you have docs?
[16:38] <ejer> i just posted your link Le-Chuck_ITA
[16:38] <Le-Chuck_ITA> oh sorry :)
[16:38] <mysterycool> wtf?
[16:38] <ejer> there are many ways to do it
[16:38] <mysterycool> prince_jamys: i can browse now :s
[16:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> thanks ejer
[16:39] <mysterycool> prince_jamys: where can i access phpmyadmin/mysql and my websites
[16:39] <mysterycool> ?
[16:39] <ejer> phpmyadmin is not installed by default
[16:40] <ejer> and you will need to set up your virtual hosts if you have more than one site
[16:40] <psycholvlan> ok got 1 question
[16:40] <psycholvlan> what is this Super button that is under settings?
[16:40] <bascule> ltsampros: synaptics allows that, software sources, untick them
[16:40] <youngmusi1> Is this a known error? During installation, when writing the partition table, i get the message "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda". I tried this with 3 different sata disks, all new ones.
[16:40] <cicero_b> secure ftp server in ubuntu -- hard?
[16:40] <psycholvlan> keeps saying like Super+s or so on
[16:40] <Pici> psycholvlan: Your 'windows' button
[16:40] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: good
[16:41] <ejer> cicero_b: it is installed with ssh
[16:41] <psycholvlan> the one that opens up the start menu in windows?
[16:41] <Pici> psycholvlan: Yes
[16:41] <psycholvlan> ty
[16:41] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: you many then have to configure mysql.  i have done this, but i dont remember the steps.  then again, maybe it works for you now ...
[16:41] <cicero_b> ejer: cool -- how can i see if it is running (daemon)?
[16:41] <prasanna> hey guys, i used to use adobe professional a lot in windows to modify my pdfs
[16:41] <ejer> youngmusi1: sounds like a problem with disk order
[16:41] <mysterycool> !lamp
[16:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:41] <ejer> cicero_b: if you installed ssh it starts up when someone connects
[16:42] <prasanna> is there an alternative i can use for ubuntu?
[16:42] <mysterycool> ah lol ty anw :p
[16:42] <cicero_b> ejer: how can i configure it?
[16:42] <ejer> cicero_b: for what, what do you want to do
[16:43] <cicero_b> i want to send files to my remove computer from a windows machine (securely)
[16:43] <youngmusi1> ejer: how do you mean? Disks are ordered automaticly with sata. I can't do anything about it, can i?
[16:43] <luisa> Ahhh :) Amarok tells me my techno song was released in the year 1408 *giggles*
[16:43] <ejer> cicero_b: it is already setup, have you tried it? read this for more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol
[16:43] <cicero_b> so my ftp host is just my ip address?
[16:43] <rindolf> Hi all.
[16:43] <ejer> youngmusi1: BIOS lets you re-order disks, and grub doesn't always see them in same order
[16:43] <luisa> hello rindolf
[16:43] <ejer> cicero_b: ftp != sftp
[16:44] <prasanna> anyone know an alternative to adobe pro for ubuntu?
[16:44] <prince_jammys> luisa: must be that gregorian chant song that was popular a few years back
[16:44] <rindolf> How do I allow a different user to start X applications in my desktop - permanently?
[16:44] <ejer> cicero_b: an easy way is to use konqueror, use address 'sftp://youruser@you.ip.add.ress'
[16:44] <Shinji-> prasanna, pdftk (but it's commandline)
[16:45] <ejer> prasanna: openoffice will let you export to PDF, so anything you make in there is possibly a PDF
[16:45] <cicero_b> here is my problem -- i am using dreamweaver on windows and i want to connect to my webserver -- they force ftp, i want to do it securely
[16:45] <prasanna> well i have pdfs that need to be modified
[16:45] <ejer> cicero_b: ftp is insecure
[16:45] <prasanna> lecture notes for class are in pdf format
[16:45] <luisa> OMG.... I just installed Guild Wars via Wine, it was so easy (click, click done) ... it runs flawlessly.. :O I'm so mad I was ever using Windows xD
[16:46] <prasanna> so i would use adobe to modify and edit them (add extra notes) and then save and print it when i'm done
[16:46] <cicero_b> i am not sure what login to use -- standard user accounts for ubuntu? how could i restrict access per sftp user?
[16:46] <ejer> prasanna: found this http://www.howtoforge.com/editing_pdf_files_pdfedit_ubuntu_feisty
[16:47] <ejer> cicero_b: you are going to need to read up on ssh and configs... this gets more complex than I can explain in a chat room
[16:47] <prasanna> k let me check that out
[16:47] <ejer> cicero_b: the website you need to upload to is not yours, right?
[16:47] <cicero_b> ejer: it is my website .. .
[16:47] <ejer> ie you do not control the machine
[16:48] <cicero_b> both machines sit right next to me -- but one has a web-ip and the other is on my lan
[16:48] <ejer> cicero_b: if ssh is installed on it and you have a valid user that can login, you are set
[16:48] <ejer> ok, so do what I said with konqueror you should be fine
[16:48] <Sliss> cicero_b try using scp
[16:48] <Ithappens> If i install the xfire plugin deb on pidgeon, is there anything else i should do after the fact? because i wont show up
[16:48] <ejer> cicero_b: from command line you can also use 'scp thisfile youruser@yourothermachine:/home/youruser/'
[16:49] <cicero_b> yeah -- oh, that might be a good option -- can i use sshfs to connect to a windows directory -- then it could look like a local drive . . .
[16:49] <Sliss> 1275 user on an irc is insane
[16:50] <IndyGunFreak> prasanna: are you using Gutsy?
[16:50] <cicero_b> would i have to use cygwin or something like that . . .
[16:50] <ejer> cicero_b: no, not unless the windows machine is running ssh
[16:50] <Sliss> how can you follow a discussion ;-)
[16:50] <crush_groove> why when running apt update would pkges be held back ?
[16:50] <bazhang> quick eyes
[16:50] <ejer> crush_groove: they would be installed if you used dist-upgrade
[16:50] <aoupi> how can I get the changelog for a package throug apt?
[16:51] <crush_groove> ejr .,. current distro is ?
[16:51] <cicero_b> ejer: should i look into that or is sftp fine . . .
[16:51] <crush_groove> ejer.. sorry
[16:51] <ajopaul> aoupi, synaptic
[16:51] <aoupi> ajopaul: no X
[16:51] <ejer> cicero_b: sftp is great for transferring to linux machine, the best maybe
[16:51] <ltsampros> removing the unofficial repositories from sources.list
[16:51] <tuco_> hi
[16:51] <tuco_> somebody online?
[16:51] <ltsampros> DID NOT uninstall the packages installed from them
[16:51] <ejer> lol tuco_
[16:52] <ejer> i am here
[16:52] <ajopaul> aoupi, not sure
[16:52] <cicero_b> got it
[16:52] <cicero_b> sweet -- it works
[16:52] <prasanna> ya pdfedit is nowhere near the functionality of adobe
[16:52] <ejer> :)
[16:52] <aoupi> ajopaul: n/m, found it in /usr/share/doc/<package>
[16:52] <prasanna> was adobe 7.0 able to run with wine?
[16:52] <sfleury> \join #ejabberd
[16:52] <Pici> !appdb | prasanna check the appdb
[16:52] <ubotu> prasanna check the appdb: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[16:52] <IndyGunFreak> !appdb | prasanna
[16:52] <ejer> doubt it prasanna but maybe with newest changes they made
[16:52] <ubotu> prasanna: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[16:52] <Jermu^> hey guys
[16:53] <Jermu^> how can i use a hd
[16:53] <prasanna> !appdb
[16:53] <Pici> prasanna: Read what ubotu said.
[16:53] <Jermu^> which ubuntu says i don't have righst to use
[16:53] <prasanna> :yea
[16:53] <flipmode> how do i enable mp3 support for k3b??
[16:53] <prasanna> at the link now
[16:53] <IndyGunFreak> prasanna: i'm almost positive it works w/  codeweavers, but you'd have to pay for that.
[16:53] <prasanna> ohh
[16:53] <Shinji-> prasanna, if you install latest wine it should work
[16:53] <prasanna> how much?
[16:54] <IndyGunFreak> prasanna: hmm, i can't remember... http://www.codeweavers.com
[16:54] <prasanna> 60 bucks :|
[16:54] <prasanna> i'll pass
[16:54] <IndyGunFreak> prasanna: i think thats for the pro version. i was thinking it was around $39
[16:54] <adamb> latest wine will work with adobe.
[16:55] <prasanna> adobe 7.0?
[16:55] <prasanna> or latest adobe 8.0
[16:55] <IndyGunFreak> prasanna: no, Crossover.. its $39
[16:55] <Boglizk> Photoshop CS2 works, but not CS3
[16:55] <IndyGunFreak> not 60
[16:55] <prasanna> ohhhh
[16:55] <luisa> Aww ;_:
[16:55] <ejer> prasanna: http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/ then edit in openoffice then export back to pdf
[16:55] <luisa> I don't mind Cinepaint, but it leaves like 10 windows on the taskbar.. >_>
[16:56] <IndyGunFreak> prasanna: but i bet it will run ok w/ Wine if you try that
[16:56] <bazhang> will work soon though as google has put huge effort into photoshop working better with wine
[16:56] <brobostigon> isnt crossover basiclly wine,wine is free crossover is not free??
[16:56] <ejer> note we don't have those new wine packages yet
[16:56] <SpacePilot> I installed the msttcorefonts but firefox doesn't seem to be able to find times new roman?
[16:56] <IndyGunFreak> brobostigon: crossover is far more stable than wine.
[16:57] <prasanna> well wine's site is acting really weird, Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/winehq/opt/appdb/include/query.php on line 82
[16:57] <prasanna> Database error, please try again soon: Too many connections
[16:57] <prasanna> so just gonna wait a bit and try again later
[16:57] <IndyGunFreak> prasanna: yeah, i got the same error.
[16:57] <frold> What is the best DVD2avi ripping tool?
[16:57] <brobostigon> IndyGunFreak: i meant, do they use wine in crossover
[16:57] <IndyGunFreak> frold: i like acidrip and ::dvdrip::
[16:57] <prasanna> i partitioned my hard drive into two drives, one 15 gigs that contains the ubuntu installation file, while the other serves as a storage drive
[16:57] <IndyGunFreak> brobostigon: i think so.., not 100% sure though.. been a while since i used it.
[16:57] <cicero_b> is there a good unix2dos dos2unix on ubuntu?
[16:58] <prasanna> is there anyway i could get that drive permanently mounted? i'm having to mount it manually each time i reboot
[16:58] <brobostigon> !crossover
[16:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:58] <Docfxit> When I run apt-get Update I am getting a bunch of Could not resolve messages.
[16:58] <ZeroA4> prasanna, yes, you need to create a line for it on /etc/fstab
[16:59] <mykorrhiza> Hello I have a problem with the cd-drive on my laptop, I cant mount anything. But in recovery mode it works but not the automounting.
[16:59] <jonasbjork> Docfxit: could not resolve usually is DNS-problems
[16:59] <prasanna> is there a command? last time i tried to create the command i messed up my system, forced to format
[16:59] <IndyGunFreak> Docfxit: well why is it saying it can';t resovle them?
[16:59] <frold> IndyGunFreak: does one of them support ripping to divx or xvid?
[17:00] <IndyGunFreak> frold: not really sure, i always rip to AVI, and they come out really good.
[17:00] <hemai> where can I downlaod the code for ubuntu ltsp
[17:00] <IndyGunFreak> hemai: the code?
[17:00] <jonasbjork> hemai: sourcecode?
[17:00] <jonasbjork> hemai: or just "LTSP" ?
[17:00] <jonasbjork> hemai: :)
[17:00] <Pici> !ltsp | hemai
[17:00] <ubotu> hemai: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project
[17:00] <brobostigon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossOver
[17:00] <IndyGunFreak> considering its only gonna be the long term version for about another 2mo, i'd just use Gutsy...
[17:00] <ejer> frold: avi is just a container for both divx and xvid
[17:01] <hemai> IndyGunFreak, yes the source code
[17:01] <IndyGunFreak> hemai: have fun finding that.
[17:01] <jonasbjork> hemai: apt-get source package-name
[17:01] <wilsonr> We're trying to get a Thinkpad T61 running Ubuntu to play nice with the LAN... Is it just us, or is this NetoworkManager thing flakey?
[17:02] <hemai> jonasbjork, with apt-get source command
[17:02] <ejer> hemai: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads#Ltsp_5_on_Other_distributions
[17:02] <hemai> jonasbjork, I am seeking exact link
[17:02] <jonasbjork> hemai: apt-get source ltsp-server-standalone
[17:02] <jonasbjork> maybe
[17:03] <bogusmips> does anyone know where SMB shares are mounted by default in Ubuntu?
[17:04] <bogusmips> I mean, where in the filesystem can I find them?
[17:04] <Pici> bogusmips: If you are referring to how Gnome 'mounts' them, they arent really mounted.
[17:04] <wilsonr> bogusmips, try /mnt
[17:04] <erUSUL> !samba
[17:04] <Docfxit> IndyGunFreak » Tx. I think I found the problem
[17:04] <wilsonr> Just a thought. I don't really know.
[17:04] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[17:05] <bogusmips> Pici: I want to copy something from a smb share to a local folder, through the command line
[17:05] <rindolf> Found it! http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-266443.html
[17:05] <ejer> bogusmips: you need to mount the windows share first
[17:06] <mysterycool> i installed lamp but i have no idea how to create a website folder. i mean a new folder that my websites are in. help plz?
[17:06] <artti> How i can create folder via terminal?
[17:06] <ejer> artti: mkdir
[17:06] <SpacePilot> Ok, anyone feel like helping me with a Audigy 2 ZS related problem? Ubuntu 7.10 detects the card, but no sound at all.
[17:06] <hooxin> hello
[17:06] <mysterycool> i installed lamp but i have no idea how to create a website folder. i mean a new folder that my websites are in. help plz?
[17:06] <psycholvlan> how do I get the flying windows screen saver for compiz-fusion?
[17:06] <ejer> SpacePilot: have you gone through sound troubleshooting steps?
[17:07] <ejer> SpacePilot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:07] <mysterycool> help with lamp plz
[17:07] <ejer> mysterycool: your sites are by default in /var/www
[17:07] <mysterycool> ejer: err, where? :s
[17:08] <bogusmips> ejer: so what appears in Gnome isn' t really mounted?
[17:08] <Jouva> artti: and "mkdir -p" if you wish to make sub folders at the same time. So if you have /home/artti and want to make a /home/artti/foo and below that make /home/artti/foo/bar, just do mkdir -p /home/artti/foo/bar
[17:08] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: browse to the directory the ejer said
[17:08] <ejer> bogusmips: no
[17:08] <mysterycool> :o
[17:08] <hooxin> under ubuntu,how to use wireless??
[17:08] <ejer> bogusmips: as someone posted - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[17:08] <mysterycool> omg lol i am stupid :p
[17:08] <mysterycool> thanks guys ;)
[17:08] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: place an index.html there and see
[17:08] <mykorrhiza> Someone plz help me with my cd drive.
[17:09] <mysterycool> lol its mr again.
[17:09] <mysterycool> *me
[17:09] <IndyGunFreak> mykorrhiza: well, we aren't mind readers, so unless you tell us the problem, we won't be able to try and help
[17:09] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: when you are browsing to "localhost" you are looking at the folder /var/www
[17:09] <source_code> when I open any pages or apps I have no control over where or how they open .I cant resize or move them
[17:09] <mysterycool> in /var/www it wont let me create a new folder :S
[17:09] <Jouva> mysterycool: do you have permissions to?
[17:09] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: folder is owned by root, you must use sudo
[17:10] <mysterycool> prince_jammys: and how i do that? :p
[17:10] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: if you are doing it from gui i guess you would have to do gksudo nautilus
[17:10] <Jouva> mysterycool: sudo command_here
[17:10] <mykorrhiza> The cd drive only works in recovery mode and only if I mount it manually
[17:10] <mysterycool> jouva: i know its sudo command but i dont know the command -_-
[17:10] <mysterycool> xD
[17:10] <ejer> mysterycool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnLinux?highlight=(apache)
[17:10] <Jouva> mysterycool: sudo mkdir directory
[17:10] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: or you could sudo cp /path/to/your/file /var/www (will copy the file)
[17:11] <Jouva> or whatever
[17:11] <Jouva> Although
[17:11] <Jouva> Hmmm
[17:11] <Jouva> mysterycool: you wanted to make a directory or copy a file through nautilus I assume?
[17:12] <mysterycool> jouva: make directory
[17:12] <bogusmips> ejer: you see, I'm trying to copy a file from a SMB share to my local HD, and I'm using Ubuntu Live CD. For some reason the GUI says I don't have writing permissions on the HD, so I wanted to try some command with 'sudo'
[17:12] <Jouva> mysterycool: But you want to do this through nautilus right?
[17:12] <mysterycool> jouva: and now that i want to create something.php how i do that?
[17:12] <Jouva> mysterycool: Answer my question first and I can answer yours :) Terminal or nautilus?
[17:12] <ejer> bogusmips: same deal, mount the share, then sudo cp xxx xxx
[17:13] <mysterycool> jouva: terminal
[17:13] <Jouva> Oh
[17:13] <jimmygoon_> How do I set up ubuntu->ubuntu sharing?
[17:13] <Jouva> sudo mkdir /var/www/directory
[17:13] <bogusmips> ejer: but ubuntu live doesn't have 'smbmount'
[17:13] <Jouva> sudo nano -w /var/www/directory/something.php
[17:14] <Jouva> (-w avoids word wrap)
[17:14] <ejer> bogusmips: aptitude install smbfs
[17:14] <Pici> bogusmips: then use mount -t smbfs
[17:14] <OpenMania902> hi .... I Need help for a wireless driver for my flybook
[17:14] <ejer> jimmygoon: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing
[17:14] <psycholvlan> what's the plugin for the flying windows screensaver?
[17:14] <jimmygoon> ejer, thank
[17:15] <ejer> psycholvlan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Windows ? this one?
[17:15] <frold> ejer:  container you say? but divx doesnt take as much mb as avi?
[17:15] <OpenMania902> I need help
[17:15] <Plight> pidgin's download rate for file transfer's sucks, I can upload and it's as if i have a reasonable connection, but when d/lng (you know the important part) it's like i'm using dial-up.  Is there anything I can do?
[17:15] <ejer> frold: divx is avi
[17:15] <ejer> and vice versa
[17:15] <geekahedron> how can i change the locations in my "Places" menu?
[17:15] <OpenMania902> for the Prism3 driver
[17:15] <psycholvlan> no the one that takes the windows you have open and has them flying around
[17:16] <psycholvlan> saw it on a youtube video
[17:16] <ejer> Plight: don't use a chat app for file transfers? ;0)
[17:16] <SpacePilot> Nice. The trioubleshoot guide made the computer crash.
[17:16] <Jouva> prince_jammys: BTW, check out nautilus-gksu, which helps do what you suggested (running nautilus with gksu) as a plugin feature of nautilus
[17:16] <Plight> I don't have much choice right now, though, what do you suggest?
[17:16] <ejer> psycholvlan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611719
[17:17] <prince_jammys> Jouva: ah, i thought just gksudo nautilus
[17:17] <ejer> Plight: http://drop.io/ is decent
[17:17] <dr3k> nect
[17:17] <IndyGunFreak> prince_jammys: thats pretty much all you need to do
[17:17] <mysterycool> jouva: i did what u said and it didnt create the file. instead something changed in the terminal and it has some new commands like ^K copy ^G for help but none is working :s help plz
[17:17] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo | prince_jammys
[17:17] <ubotu> prince_jammys: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[17:17] <prince_jammys> right
[17:17] <prince_jammys> was a tip to someone else
[17:17] <Jouva> mysterycool: It's an editor. I assume you said "creating" as in you want to start typing and editing
[17:17] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[17:17] <crush_groove> cannot move nor resize any app or window that I open any suggestions ?
[17:17] <psycholvlan> ty ejer
[17:18] <prince_jammys> im a kdesudo kind of guy :)
[17:18] <mysterycool> jouva: i mean creating the something.php then editing it via the Text Editor -_-
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> crush_groove: turn compiz off, see if that helps
[17:18] <crush_groove> IndyGunFreak,  I completely removed it
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> crush_groove: turn desktop effects off.
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> system/prefs/appearance/DE tab
[17:19] <flipmode> how do i enable mp3 support for k3b??
[17:19] <Jouva> mysterycool: nano _is_ a text editor :) You were approaching this the wrong way. Did you just want to do stuff through nautilus to make the directory and create the file in the end?
[17:19] <jpatrick> flipmode: install libk3b2-mp3
[17:19] <mysterycool> jouva: all i want is to create the something.php then go to the directory it was created in -> right click -> Open with text editor >.>
[17:20] <Pici> mysterycool: Navigate to /var/www/ in Nautilus then
[17:20] <crush_groove> IndyGunFreak,  there is nothing there ..its very much like what you would see in a windows setup .. I have "none" set for dt
[17:20] <flipmode> jpatrick: thank you sir.
[17:21] <IndyGunFreak> crush_groove: have you trid restarting X?...
[17:21] <mid5> Hi morning, anyone know some like google desktop for ubuntu?, I installed kat but i don't like, it has some errors
[17:22] <crush_groove> IndyGunFreak,  yes
[17:22] <mysterycool> aaah wtf is going on??
[17:22] <IndyGunFreak> crush_groove: hmm, i really don't know, thats almost always a compiz/desktop effects issue.
[17:22] <Jouva> mysterycool: Ok answer me this :)
[17:23] <mysterycool> how i just create a simple file via the terminal??
[17:23] <crush_groove> as I thought
[17:23] <mysterycool> \
[17:23] <mysterycool>  
[17:23] <Jouva> mysterycool: First, hit ctrl-x to exit out ot nano
[17:23] <TurtleOfDoom> mysterycool: nano filename.txt
[17:23] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: you want to create a php script and save it correct?
[17:23] <Jouva> TurtleOfDoom: No don't go there :) Trust me he didn't want that
[17:23] <mysterycool> yes and then being able to open it by the Text Editor
[17:23] <Jouva> mysterycool
[17:23] <Jouva> I've got you :)
[17:23] <mysterycool> ?
[17:24] <Jouva> Just listen to me for 2 minutes ok?
[17:24] <mysterycool> ok
[17:24] <Jouva> mysterycool: First, Ctrl-X to close nano.
[17:24] <mysterycool> closed it already
[17:24] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: sudo nano /var/www/script_name.php   and then ctrl-x to save your changes
[17:24] <mysterycool> and the damn file that was created cannot be deleted! :@
[17:24] <wilsonr> I'm having trouble with my networking.  ifconfig shows "eth0:avah".  What is that?
[17:24] <crush_groove> I may need to reinstall
[17:24] <Jouva> mysterycool! Hold on! Shush!
[17:24] <mysterycool> k
[17:24] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: everything you create in that folder has to be edited as superuser
[17:25] <SpacePilot> Easiest way to get Firefox to look like Firefox under windows? Right now it looks like shit? :S
[17:25] <Jouva> prince_jammys: I'm going to fix that for him ;)
[17:25] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: you cannot edit/delete/add files to that folder as normal user
[17:25] <Jouva> prince_jammys: Shhh, I'm going to fix that for him ;)
[17:25] <prince_jammys> Jouva: change permissions on /var/www?
[17:25] <Jouva> Don't confuse him anymore
[17:25] <Jouva> prince_jammys: He wanted a sub directory.
[17:25] <artti> Having another problem. How i change folder permissions/owner? Should i log in as root?
[17:26] <Jouva> So the SUB directory will be like that. PLus I'll tell him about nautilus-gksu
[17:26] <Adyeths> Whats the trick to making compiz-fusion automatically load when rebooting ubuntu? I already tried repeatedly changing the settings in the Appearance dialog but it doesn't seem to keep them.
[17:26] <Slart> artti: never log in as root.. use sudo
[17:26] <prince_jammys> artti: no
[17:26] <higgylm> --compiz replace
[17:26] <Slart> !sudo  | artti
[17:26] <ubotu> artti: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[17:26] <Jouva> mysterycool: Ok. You told me you wanted to do this in the TERMINAL. Not in the GUI. I don't know why you said you needed to use the terminal
[17:27] <mysterycool> jouva: i wanted to use the terminal to CREATE the file. i want to edit it in gui
[17:27] <Jouva> mysterycool: WHy did you need to create it in the terminal?
[17:27] <artti> ubotu, but how i change folder owner?
[17:27] <Slart> artti: chown changes ownership
[17:27] <mysterycool> jouva: just wanna learn how to get along with unix commands ;)
[17:27] <ejer> mysterycool: sudo touch/var/www/yourfile.php && gksudo gedit /var/www/yourfile.php
[17:27] <TurtleOfDoom> artti: ubotu is a bot
[17:28] <Slart> artti: and chmod changes permissions..
[17:28] <ejer> woops mysterycool space after touch
[17:28] <mysterycool> :p
[17:28] <Slart> artti: so.. to change owner of a file that belongs to root you use sudo chown bla bla bla .. check the man page for the bla bla bla stuff.. I don't know it by heart =)
[17:28] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: linuxcommand.org
[17:28] <Jouva> mysterycool: Oh. Well then I'll tell you how it all works :) But FYI, nano is a text-based text editor. All of those commands at the bottom are ways of writing, searching, etc. "^O" means Ctrl-O which is a way of writing the file.
[17:29] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: really, you want to get acquainted with a tutorial
[17:29] <rastapopulus> hello! can somebody help me with vpnc?
[17:29] <higgylm> Adyeths, System > Preferences > Sessoins > Add > command = compiz --replace
[17:29] <Jouva> But to simply CREATE an empty file and nothing else, you can do that a few ways, but the most common is using "touch"
[17:29] <Slart> vpnc? not vnc?
[17:29] <massisimo> hmm, how can i get flash to work, i have installed it but it wont work : / . please someone help me!!
[17:29] <Jouva>  err
[17:29] <Jigs> need help hello there.... how to execute windows system inside ubuntu system?
[17:29] <luisa> The whole OS or just an application?
[17:29] <Slart> Jigs: virtualbox or qemu.. try !vm
[17:30] <Adyeths> thank you higgylm
[17:30] <Polarina> How do I take a screenshot in Xubuntu? I'm trying to instruct a friend of mine through instant text messaging without access to a Xubuntu installation.
[17:30] <USN1520> OK so the dpkg was cool, but if you have no internet connection you cannot apt-get
[17:30] <geekahedron> how do i change it so i don't have to manually `modprobe ndiswrapper` every time i reboot, for my wireless to work
[17:30] <Jouva> mysterycool: To simply CREATE an empty file and nothing else, you can do that a few ways, but the most common is using "touch". "touch" is a command that's used to update an existing file's date/time stamp (i.e.: you touched it but didn't change its contents) but a side affect is that it creates the file if it doesn't exist.
[17:30] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: in that site you will learn basic commands for browsing your file system, copying files, etc.
[17:30] <mysterycool> jigs: use emulator such as qemu or virtual machine or vmware
[17:30] <rastapopulus> Slart: vpnc
[17:30] <mysterycool> !qemu | jigs
[17:30] <ubotu> jigs: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[17:30] <Slart> massisimo: noone will be able to answer a question like that.. describe why you feel it's not working.. are there errormessages.. have you tried googling for those error messages.. how did you install it? etc etc
[17:30] <Jigs> ok tnx guys
[17:30] <gatestone> Is anyone willing to test Skype video?
[17:30] <gatestone> This is my Skype nick, too. Try calling now.
[17:30] <gatestone> I think this works, and Skype actually recognizes my MS webcam.
[17:31] <gatestone> So Skype video with MS webcam...on Linux ;-)
[17:31] <gatestone> But I must say that microphone settings and the ALSA mixer are really hard to understand.
[17:31] <Slart> !enter | gatestone
[17:31] <ubotu> gatestone: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:31] <Jouva> mysterycool: HOWEVER you'd still run into issues with permissions because the files (in this case) needed to be created with sudo due to the permissions on /var/www and therefore you have one of three things you must do.
[17:32] <danand_> Jigs - I use virtual box for running a number of OS's in ubuntu. Never tried Windows though! I've found it very easy to use and set up :)
[17:32] <Jouva> mysterycool: 1) chown the directory and/or file 2) gksudo gedit 3) Install the nautilus-gksu package so that you can open any folder as an admin via gksudo automatically
[17:32] <aDocuhe> what is the integral of (e^x - e^-x)/2 dx?
[17:32] <Slart> !ot | aDocuhe
[17:32] <gatestone> Can anyne explain me why my front mic is constantly capturing and a hiss comes out of my laptop speakers, if I set up the volume a feedback starts screaming?
[17:32] <ubotu> aDocuhe: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:32] <Pici> aDocuhe: Try #math
[17:32] <aDocuhe> Pici, thanks
[17:33] <geekahedron> when i reboot, i have to open terminal and `sudo modprobe ndiswrapper` for the wireless connection to even show up, then i have to open network properties and change settings until it is "updating netowrk configuration" before it actually works. and i cannot get it to work in roaming mode at all, i need to enter a manual essid every time.
[17:33] <Jouva> ...oh I thought his name said "a douche" til I re-read it for the 5th time.
[17:33] <rastapopulus> "can't initialise tunnel interface: Device or resource busy" what can i do?
[17:33] <mysterycool> :p
[17:33] <ejer> geekahedron: you could try adding ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[17:33] <rastapopulus> "vpnc-connect: can't initialise tunnel interface: Device or resource busy" what can i do?
[17:33] <W8TAH> ive a video file that came to me in a bunch of parts --- im using cat to put it back together (its an AVI) however one part is missing, and i want it to just skip that part and continue when it plays back, howerver it always fails -- is there a remedy?
[17:34] <ejer> W8TAH: after cat-ing them, run mencoder -forceidx ......
[17:34] <W8TAH> ejer, thanks!
[17:34] <Jouva> mysterycool: One of those will work. But yeah. The reason I told you to use nano was I figured you wanted to start typing in the command line. touch lets you simply create the file. Also works with something like...
[17:34] <Jouva> echo > file.txt
[17:34] <Slart> W8TAH: I think you might have to reindex the file.. or whatever it's called.. try opening it with vlc, sometimes it offers to do those things
[17:34] <gatestone> Is there anyone a readable explanation of all the zillion "devices" that ALSA lets me to "mix". Which ones do I really have to use, with a laptop with no external audio gear?
[17:34] <ejer> W8TAH: try using avidemux, really cool app for this
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: did you add ndiswrapper to modprobe?.. thats the only thing i can think of.
[17:34] <W8TAH> oh - ok
[17:35] <ejer> W8TAH: but your way is cooler, just a good app for future
[17:35] <Polarina> How do I take a screenshot in Xubuntu? I'm trying to instruct a friend of mine through instant text messaging without access to a Xubuntu installation.
[17:35] <mysterycool> jouva: ok to sum up everything, how i just create (touch) the file as root?
[17:35] <ejer> mysterycool: sudo touch /var/www/yourfile.php
[17:36] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: where do i do that?
[17:36] <ejer> Polarina: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553015
[17:36] <ejer> Polarina: print screen, then paste in gfx app
[17:36] <Slart> Polarina: I think print screen works
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: not really sure, but i seem to remember needing to do that, its usually in most instructions though to do it.
[17:37] <Jouva> mysterycool: Exactly what ejer said... BUT you can't open it with gedit unless you run gedit as root. Hence you need one of the three options I mentioned above.
[17:37] <ejer> mysterycool: sudo touch /var/www/yourfile.php && gksudo gedit /var/www/yourfile.php :)
[17:37] <Jigs> ok guys tnx for the info... gtg
[17:37] <gatestone> Polarina: you shoul also have Applications -> Accessories -> Take screenshot
[17:38] <rastapopulus> no one there who can help configure vpnc?
[17:38] <Jouva> ejer: he's new to the command line so I'm helping him in one of three ways
[17:38] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: i know how to blacklist something, i don't know that i've ever seen how to manually *add* something, other than the /etc/modules file if that's what you mean
[17:38] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: i meant modules, not modprobe, sorry
[17:38] <ejer> Jouva: gotcha, but that is the command he wants I think
[17:39] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak: should i enter the line as "ndiswrapper" or "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[17:39] <danand_> geekahedron - just add the line ndiswrapper to /etc/modules - this should then load that module at boot time
[17:39] <mysterycool> ok unix can get complicated :p
[17:39] <Jouva> ejer: Yeah but I was going to suggest making the file and/or directory owned by him, doing what you suggested, OR pointing him to nautilus-gksu so he can just open the directory with nautilus as super user
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> geekahedron: i told you i realy don't know, i just remember reading it, look at danand_'s comment
[17:39] <danand_> geekahedron, IndyGunFreak - Bit late :)
[17:39] <Tristan_> I am having trouble with wireless network on a fresh 7.1 install on a hp pavillion notebook (broadcom 4311 wireless chip)
[17:39] <ejer> Jouva: that won't work well with apache
[17:40] <Jouva> mysterycool: No, you're just trying to mix the command line and GUI too much :) Use one or the other for the majority of your work, not both at the same time :)
[17:40] <danand_> geekahedron - no just as ndiswrapper
[17:40] <Tristan_> I recompiled ndiswrapper and the light is showing the device is working
[17:40] <mysterycool> jouva: now that i created the file how can i give with a sudo command to myself permissions so i wont have to do the sudo everytime?
[17:40] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: to do anything as root from the command line you do    sudo  <your command>   to run non command line apps as root,  you do gksudo  <name of app, eg gedit> in a terminal and it will open the app as root.
[17:40] <aoupi> mysterycool: what you really want to do is edit/create a php script in /var/www? all you need to do is run gksu gedit and save it in /var/www
[17:40] <geekahedron> danand_, IndyGunFreak: okay, i'll see if the rest of it works when ndiswrapper is loaded at boot time
[17:40] <Tristan_> geekahedron, you are using ndiswrapper for wireless too ?
[17:40] <tux_> iam installing ubuntu 7.10 now on my new laptop.. how long shall it stand on detecting hardware pleas wait.. 15min now
[17:40] <danand_> geekahedron - luck!
[17:40] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: not recommended
[17:40] <geekahedron> Tristan_: that's all i'm using it for atm
[17:41] <mysterycool> prince_jammys: y?
[17:41] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: if you want to run a server, leave it owned by root
[17:41] <Tristan_> geekahedron, working or no ?
[17:41] <mysterycool> k
[17:41] <Tristan_> sorry just stepped in
[17:41] <Jouva> mysterycool: You shouldn't. You really shouldn't try to get around sudo. HOWEVER this is where nautilus-gksu comes in.
[17:41] <TrapperDave> Can anyone help me get Compiz running again?
[17:41] <mexle> <<----geht mal gassii
[17:41] <youngmusi1> got a strange problem here. Yesterday evening my system suddenly refused to boot. I started from the rescue cd and more than half of my raid partitions were gone. I tried to reinstall today and got stuck on the message "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda". (with the partitioner) I thought the disk would be broken, but i tried 3 different new disks now, and all give the same error. Any ideas?
[17:41] <Tristan_> geekahedron, having trouble with same thing I am guessing
[17:42] <mamo> hallo
[17:42] <geekahedron> Tristan_: yes, it's working, for the most part .. now i just want to get it going as "roaming" so i don't have to manually enter the essid
[17:42] <Cew27> hey every one does anybody know how effective the wipe nautilus script is
[17:42] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: if this is a big nuisance, create the files as you normally would and then copy them to /var/www as root
[17:42] <mamo> kimse yohmi
[17:42] <ejer> youngmusi1: if you want to troubleshoot, unplug all drives but target drive
[17:42] <aoupi> Cew27: I recommend you use encryption for secret stuff
[17:42] <Tristan_> geekahedron, and the network settings dialog is working for you ?
[17:43] <Tristan_> geekahedron, and the network settings dialog is working for you ?
[17:43] <geekahedron> IndyGunFreak, danand_: it did initialize properly at startup now, with my saved essid, thanks. the "roaming" wireless is a different issue
[17:43] <Tristan_> oops
[17:43] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[17:43] <Cew27> aoupi: wow this is awkward talking about this, anyhoo is it sucre using hte wipe script
[17:43] <Jouva> mysterycool: If you simply want to use the GUI to make changes to a directory or file that's owned by another user (including root), then you can install nautilus-gksu as a plugin for nautilus so that you only have to right click the directory and choose "Open as administrator" and then you have full permissions. What prince_jammys also works for less hastle with this particular instance.
[17:43] <sdsheeks> anyone here been able to get outlook 2003 to work with crossover?
[17:43] <ejer> Cew27: have a link to this script?
[17:43] <youngmusi1> ejer: ok, iĺl try that. btw, my bios had nothing to change drive order
[17:43] <Trashlord> brb, reboot
[17:44] <ejer> youngmusi1: u r using onboard sata?
[17:44] <geekahedron> Tristan_: once i installed the drivers and activated ndiswrapper, i got my wireless to show up in the network settings box, yes. i had to turn off roaming mode and enter my network's essid before it would actually connect, though
[17:44] <aoupi> Cew27: http://abaababa.ouvaton.org/wipe/wipe.1.html see important warning section
[17:44] <youngmusi1> ejer: yes
[17:44] <Tristan_> hmmm, I got the driver seems to be working, detects networks, just cant authenticate password :-/
[17:44] <ejer> youngmusi1: you should def have drive order somewhere
[17:44] <Tristan_> geekahedron, aha, using dhcp and what authentication type ?
[17:44] <aoupi> Cew27: "Wiping over NFS or over a journalling filesystem (ReiserFS etc.) will most probably not work" that part in particular, since I assume you use either ReiserFS or ext3, both being journaled
[17:45] <aoupi> Cew27: soo encryption is the way to go
[17:45] <ejer> aoupi: how do you know it is this script he means
[17:45] <Tristan_> geekahedron, maybe I will have the same situation ;-)
[17:45] <aoupi> ejer: because the nautilus wipe scirpt is just a frontend for wipe
[17:45] <Tristan_> geekahedron, which laptop you have ?
[17:45] <geekahedron> Tristan_: mine has no password so i don't know. i have it set as 'wpa personal' with blank password, using dhcp
[17:45] <Cew27> aoupi: thats it will it work with ubunt
[17:45] <ejer> aoupi: k i don't know the nautilus one
[17:45] <geekahedron> Tristan_: it's a dell d630
[17:45] <Tristan_> ah
[17:46] <Tristan_> ok
[17:46] <mysterycool> ok thanks guys
[17:46] <mysterycool> btw, one last thing. how do i create a new databse in mysql?
[17:46] <prince_jammys> mysterycool: as an aside to all this, the thing is that you are trying to learn many things at the same time. you want to learn 1) basic shell commands,  2) unix permissions 3) how to run a server.  i recommend that you read tutorials for each in that order, and it wont be as annoying
[17:46] <Tristan_> geekahedron, you know what chip ? (broadcom here)
[17:46] <ejer> mysterycool: mysqladmin is one way
[17:46] <mysterycool> ejer: i am in there
[17:46] <youngmusi1> ejer: no. It's just listing 4 sata slots. The first one contains my disk, the other 3 are empty. And i can change IDE mode and such.
[17:47] <mysterycool> ejer: but cant see any option for create databse :S
[17:47] <mysterycool> ?
[17:47] <Cew27> anybody know of a good program/bootable cd that will wipe my hardrive fully
[17:47] <ejer> mysterycool: http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/mysql-cheatsheet.html
[17:47] <geekahedron> Tristan_: it's a broadcom bcm94311mcg mini-pci
[17:47] <iTF|Prometheus> Hey guys - if someone could help me it would be great. Im a bit of a ubuntu noob. I'm running XUbuntu7.10. myproblem is a delay on boot.I get a dma timeout on hda. I have added ide=nodma to the end of my kernel bootline. but still i get a dma timeout, which causes quite a big boot delay - is there another way, or something else i have to do to fix this??? many thanks
[17:47] <Tristan_> geekahedron, Ill give her another go, but I have to boot up ubuntu
[17:47] <ejer> Cew27: DBAN
[17:47] <Tristan_> geekahedron, ah same chip exactly
[17:47] <EADG> Cew27: dd or wipe will
[17:48] <Tristan_> geekahedron, brb
[17:48] <k4k> Anyone have a kernel recommendation for use with a Pentium 3 system? It says I'm using the generic i686 kernel, is there one more optimized for a P3 or did it use the right one from the start?
[17:48] <Cew27> EADG: wipe isnt effective on ubuntu thaugh
[17:48] <geekahedron> Tristan_: if you download the windows driver from dell and unzip the .exe you should be able to load the .inf from there
[17:48] <aoupi> Cew27: you can do it from the ubuntu livecd, just run "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1" replace sda1 with the partition you want wiped
[17:48] <ejer> k4k: generic is for pretty much everything
[17:48] <aoupi> Cew27: that will erase EVERYTHING on that partition
[17:48] <Cew27> ejer: it needs to be the best free one, im sending my laptop to get repaired and it had less than legit software on it
[17:49] <ejer> Cew27: I don't recommend bad stuff, look at reviews of DBAN
[17:49] <youngmusi1> ejer: just started with only one disk (and the dvd player of course) and still got the same error.
[17:49] <Tristan_> geekahedron, yes I got that far, and can detect the networks and all
[17:49] <ejer> Cew27: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[17:49] <Tristan_> geekahedron, just havent authenticated :-/
[17:49] <ejer> youngmusi1: soyou could skip installing grub, then try to manually install it...
[17:49] <DRebellion> Cew27, you want to scramble a drive?  sudo cat /dev/random > /dev/hd
[17:50] <geekahedron> Tristan_: after you change the auth settings, make sure the dialog comes up "configuring network connection"
[17:50] <ejer> that is not hard to undo
[17:50] <mino> hi :) if i put in my headset the sound is still on the boxes of my laptop :( does i need alsa mixer to fix that or something else?
[17:50] <KEB1> can you see from wich state i am? im testint tor...
[17:50] <youngmusi1> ejer:  no no, this is much earlier, while i'm trying to partition the disk.
[17:50] <geekahedron> Tristan_: i found that i made changes and nothing happened sometimes
[17:50] <Cew27> DRebellion: it just needs to erare it all so i can re-install windows before i send it back and dont have to fear them finding cracked software
[17:51] <Tristan_> geekahedron, yes seen it, ok Im going under, if Im back in ubuntu its a good sign
[17:51] <Tristan_> ah yes
[17:51] <geekahedron> Tristan_: gl
[17:51] <Tristan_> you need to check and uncheck the box
[17:51] <ejer> youngmusi1: what version you using of ubuntu
[17:51] <iTF|Prometheus> KEB1, AliceDSL isp in germany?
[17:51] <aoupi> Cew27: they wont care about cracked software if that is all you are hiding
[17:51] <the_empty> Trying to ssh to some boxes I am getting "buffer_get_ret: trying to get more bytes 4 than in buffer 0" all of a sudden... anyone seen this? google is not brimming with helpfulness this morning
[17:51] <youngmusi1> ubuntu-studio 7.10 (tried 64 bit as well as 32 bit)
[17:52] <Cew27> aoupi: *shifty look*
[17:52] <iTF|Prometheus> Cew27, Who you sending it to - I used to work for HP and dell...They have no rights to check any software on the hdd - nor do they have any authority.. Plus - Most wont check
[17:52] <aoupi> Cew27: and even if they do it will be enough with just normal delete
[17:52] <EADG> Cew27: Sorry, had a phone call. I have wipe running as an rm alias, so your saying it's not wiping out the file, or not all instances of the file becuase of the journaled FS?
[17:53] <Cew27> aoupi: im also selling an external hdd wich had a text file on it with log ins for many sites how can i wipe this? will boot and nuke be ok
[17:53] <eQualizer> My ubuntu offers remote login. How do I get local login screen back?
[17:53] <iTF|Prometheus> Cew27, They dont check for stuff like that - its simply a case of them repairing your laptop as quickly as possible.. your data is your business
[17:53] <aoupi> Cew27: selling your HD, yes then you really should wipe it clean
[17:53] <youngmusi1> ejer: ubuntu-studio 7.10 (tried 64 bit as well as 32 bit)
[17:53] <Cew27> aoupi: will boot and nuke be ok
[17:53] <ejer> doesn't matter why he wants to nuke it, DBAN or many others will work fine
[17:53] <aoupi> Cew27: that DBAN thing ejer recommended looks good
[17:53] <aoupi> Cew27: how do you mean nuke?
[17:54] <Cew27> aoupi: that dban
[17:54] <ejer> nuke = destroy
[17:54] <sergio_> hi does someone know how can I configure gnome to have different wallpapers on desktops at the same time???
[17:54] <aoupi> Cew27: I've never used DBAN soo I don't know how it works
[17:54] <VvWolverinevV> hi i am having trouble with sound in WoW via wine, i have read all of the ubuntu documentation and tried everything i read... sitll no sound, can anyone help me?
[17:54] <ejer> youngmusi1: i don't see a reason for this... you may want to try wiping disk completely first...
[17:54] <sdsheeks> WoW isn't healthy :)
[17:54]  * sdsheeks hides
[17:54] <iTF|Prometheus> lol
[17:54] <higgylm> sergio_, right click on desktop > apearances
[17:55] <k4k> I just got an error saying " W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock" "E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/" "E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened" wtf is that?
[17:55] <aoupi> Cew27: but in the future I recommend you encrypt personal/secret things soo you don't have to worry
[17:55] <ejer> read this about DBAN http://www.linux.com/feature/48092
[17:55] <VvWolverinevV> haha i know sdsheeks, but neither is linux :P
[17:55] <youngmusi1> ejer: well, it's new disk. I don't get this at all. But thanks for the help.
[17:55] <EADG> aoupi: I should have address this to you... I have wipe running as an rm alias, so your saying it's not wiping out the file, or not all instances of the  file becuase of the journaled FS?
[17:55] <sdsheeks> VvWolverinevV: :)
[17:55] <sdsheeks> VvWolverinevV: I was addicted to Lineage II almost got a divorce over it.
[17:55] <iTF|Prometheus> anyone know how to stop a dma timeout error causing boot delays??? i have appended ide=nodma to the end of my kernel line in menu.lst
[17:55] <aoupi> EADG: it's not wiping the file, according to the wipe man page wipe doesn't work on journaled filesystems
[17:56] <Cew27> aoupi: thaks for all the help people!
[17:56] <sergio_> higgylm: yes but... for example if I have the beryl cube when I rotate I want to have in each desktop a different wallpaper
[17:56] <aoupi> Cew27: you're welcome
[17:56] <danand_> k4k - are you root? if you are check you don't have any other instances of apt/synaptics etc running
[17:56] <ejer> iTF|Prometheus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331515 maybe ?
[17:56] <luisa> How to make Choose a Profile window show up when I launch Firefox?
[17:56] <EADG> aoupi: Thanks for the heads up, better take a look at dban...
[17:56] <iTF|Prometheus> ejer, I'll take a look - thanks
[17:57] <DrOwl> luisa, try firefox -P
[17:57] <aoupi> EADG: :)
[17:57] <S4nt4> hello, I need help with gmd: it s locked on a screen resolution ignoring what I change into xorg.conf...
[17:57] <DRebellion> luisa, perhaps: firefox -ProfileManager
[17:57] <ejer> EADG: DBAN is for totally destroying ALL data on a disk
[17:57] <EADG> Oh, dban is Boot And Nuke... not what I'm need.
[17:57] <ejer> not certain files
[17:58] <ejer> encrypt them using encfs
[17:58] <c1|freaky> is there any tool with which u can see the changes of a directory since the last run of the program?
[17:58] <luisa> Did work, thanks DRebellion
[17:58] <DRebellion> EADG, have you considered dd if=/dev/random of=arg1 or so?
[17:58] <karen> hi
[17:58] <EADG> ejer: Ya, I see that on the link you posted, I just need something to zap files when I delete 'em
[17:58] <danand_> k4k - that usually happens when you are not root or you try to use more than one package to install software. Apt prevents this by using a lock file in /var/lib/apt i think.
[17:58] <mino> hi i just plugin my headset, the sound of the boxes is still there and also on the headset :/ but i want only sound on my headset... already checked the mixer no option to turn boxes off
[17:58] <EADG> DRebellion: I had awhile ago, but thought wipe was a better alternative.
[17:58] <ejer> EADG: depends how securely you want to do it
[17:59] <ejer> but nothing is as good as encrypting
[17:59] <sdsheeks> EADG: I use truecrypt for sensitive stuff.
[17:59] <ejer> nor as easy/fast
[17:59] <DRebellion> EADG, stick it inside a for loop then
[17:59] <mkrufky> who handles those cd requests on shipit.ubuntu.com ?
[18:00] <EADG> DRebellion: how would I set that up to delete one file?
[18:00] <aoupi> EADG: I think the alternate install CD supports encrypting the root drive from the start (I've never tired it though)
[18:00] <erUSUL> mkrufky: canonical
[18:00] <DRebellion> EADG, put it in a script
[18:00] <mysterycool> how can i login to mysqladmin as another user?
[18:00] <mysterycool> mysqladmin -u username ?
[18:00] <DRebellion> mysterycool, have you tried mysqladmin -u username?
[18:00] <mysterycool> yes
[18:00] <vbabiy> mysterycool: it asks you for your useranem
[18:00] <mkrufky> i regularly order those cd's because i am handing them out to people, converting them into linux users .....    i am a contributor to the linux kernel, and they usually approve my requests.....  my latest request was NOT approved -- how do I find out why?
[18:00] <EADG> DRebellion: My scripting abilityies are fail :) But I'll look into it this afternoon... gimme something to do.
[18:00] <mkrufky> erUSUL: ^
[18:00] <norml_advocate> !pastebin
[18:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:01] <vbabiy> wait is mysqladmin the gui tool
[18:01] <k4k> danand_: I did sudo apt-get remove opera...so I should have been root
[18:01] <S4nt4> how to change gdm resolution when it ignores xorg.conf ?
[18:01] <EADG> ... same goes for spelling.
[18:01] <prince_jammys> k4k: still the same error, after closing other apts, synaptic, etc?
[18:02] <vbabiy> S4nt4: I had the same issue I never got ti resolved.
[18:02] <k4k> prince_jammys: I don't use synaptic, I am in fluxbox I suppose I could try though
[18:02] <mysterycool> how can i login to mysqladmin as another user?
[18:02] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | k4k
[18:02] <S4nt4> vbabiy, damn...what did you do then ?
[18:02] <Donkey718666> i need help
[18:02] <vbabiy> S4nt4: just live with it
[18:02] <Docfxit> I have x11vnc installed. How can I start the server without re-booting Ubuntu?
[18:02] <k4k> prince_jammys: when I open synaptic I get this message
[18:02] <k4k> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[18:02] <vbabiy> mysterycool: is this the gui tool
[18:02] <k4k> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[18:02] <k4k> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[18:02] <k4k> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:02] <FloodBot2> k4k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | k4k
[18:02] <ubotu> k4k: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:02] <S4nt4> vbabiy, impossible. gdm is locked into a resolution my screen does not support.... blank screen !!
[18:02] <ejer> EADG: that is still not securely deleted using /dev/random on journaled filesystems
[18:03] <underwatercow> Is there any major benefit to using an alternate install CD to do a basic install and add things manually?
[18:03] <mysterycool> vbabiy: no
[18:03] <DrOwl> Can any one help with trying to get (compiz) Visual Effects working... when i try enable them i just get a message saying "Desktop Effects could not be enabled"
[18:03] <norml_advocate> will someone look over this terminal stuff and tell me if it will work in gutsy.  It is supposed to give me access to levels.  So I can boot into a terminal and move into the gnome with a command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56765/plain/
[18:03] <vbabiy> S4nt4: o mine was just larger then it should be
[18:03] <DRebellion> underwatercow, i think you mean the minimal install
[18:03] <S4nt4> vbabiy, lucky you !
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> underwatercow: well, if you have a system w/ low resources, alt. install cd is good.
[18:03] <pablo889> hi
[18:03] <S4nt4> vbabiy, you have an ati card ?
[18:03] <pablo889> can somebody help me with my internet?
[18:03] <underwatercow> DRebellion: Is that the only reason you would want to?
[18:03] <mosomaci> Good evening
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> underwatercow: minimal install cd is different from alt. install.
[18:03] <EADG> ejer: scrolling up to hunt for cmd... sec
[18:03] <vbabiy> S4nt4: did
[18:04] <k4k> prince_jammys: when I run that command I get this
[18:04] <k4k> dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[18:04] <vbabiy> mysterycool: check out the man pages
[18:04] <underwatercow> IndyGunFreak: I thought a minimal install was done from the alt.
[18:04] <ejer> EADG: you cannot wipe files properly on a journaled filesystem
[18:04] <norml_advocate> pablo889 just ask a question
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> underwatercow: not that i know of.
[18:04] <vbabiy> mysterycool: mysqladmin -u should work
[18:04] <Donkey718666> i have a question!!
[18:04] <norml_advocate> will someone look over this terminal stuff and tell me if it will work in gutsy.  It is supposed to give me access to levels.  So I can boot into a terminal and move into the gnome with a command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56765/plain/
[18:04] <ejer> !ask | Donkey718666
[18:04] <ubotu> Donkey718666: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:04] <prince_jammys> k4k: mmm, trouble
[18:04] <vbabiy> mysterycool: what you trying to do with the tool
[18:05] <Donkey718666> !ask
[18:05] <EADG> ejer: this is the cmd? dd if=/dev/random of=arg1
[18:05] <ejer> norml_advocate: it should work, but seems overly complex
[18:05] <mosomaci> I have got H2400PRO ATI and wrong picture
[18:05] <Donkey718666> oh ok
[18:05] <prince_jammys> k4k: that command usually takes care of the problem
[18:05] <S4nt4> vbabiy, I can't believe there is no solution to this !
[18:05] <ejer> EADG: that is the command that will not work :)
[18:05] <norml_advocate> ejer do you have any other ideas?
[18:05] <EADG> Doh!
[18:05] <ejer> EADG: Note that shred relies on a very important assumption: that the file system overwrites  data  in
[18:05] <ejer>        place.  This is the traditional way to do things, but many modern file system designs do not satisfy this
[18:05] <ejer>        assumption.  The following are examples of file systems on which shred is not effective, or is not  guar‐
[18:05] <ejer>        anteed to be effective in all file system modes:
[18:05] <k4k> prince_jammys: I haven't done anything except let my computer sit here and stream music for the last 3 days...
[18:05] <mysterycool> mystery@mystery-desktop:~$ mysqladmin createdatabse mysite
[18:05] <mysterycool> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[18:05] <mysterycool> error: 'Access denied for user 'mystery'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[18:05] <ejer> dang
[18:05] <S4nt4> vbabiy, i was ok under feisty...
[18:05] <FloodBot2> ejer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <ejer> sorry people
[18:05] <vbabiy> S4nt4: I am not saying there isn't I just didn't fine one
[18:05] <DaveEngland> No package 'xrender' found <- Does anybody know, what should this be? I want to install beryl and get this error!
[18:05] <pablo889> i have broadband in just a web page and no more
[18:05] <mysterycool> and i do at the beginning: mysqladmin -u root
[18:05] <prince_jammys> #mysql
[18:05] <pablo889> can somebody help me?
[18:05] <aoupi> EADG: that will only work if you want to wipe an entire partition (and then /dev/random is waaaay to slow, /dev/urandom or /dev/zero would be better)
[18:05] <EADG> ejer: help me out here, what cmd would I need to use to delete foo.bar?
[18:05] <vbabiy> S4nt4: same here only happen in Gusty
[18:06] <DRebellion> !ask | pablo889
[18:06] <ubotu> pablo889: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:06] <ejer> EADG: you can't on a journaled filesystem
[18:06] <DRebellion> EADG, rm foo.bar
[18:06] <pablo889> ok
[18:06] <ejer> securely
[18:06] <pablo889> thanks
[18:06] <vbabiy> S4nt4: you might want to check the forum there was some stuff on the issue
[18:06] <Donkey718666> Ok i am thinking about installing the ubuntu program. I have a Sony laptop. I want to know if i install this will it erase my hard drive like i was doing a new OS? also how do i load on the sound video car and other stuff for my laptop to run
[18:06] <S4nt4> vbabiy, may I ask what is your monitor ? mine is a CRT imagequest q910
[18:06] <danbhfive> EADG: mv foo.bar foo.bar~
[18:06] <S4nt4> vbabiy, I did and tried a lot of things
[18:06] <vbabiy> S4nt4: sorry not sure how i can help
[18:06] <KEB1> vidalia wants that i fill in a pw, i dont know what to do... do you know ehat i can do?
[18:06] <k4k> prince_jammys: I can run apt-cache search and apt-get update but not apt-get install, apt-get remove or apt-get upgrade
[18:06] <pablo889> i have broadband in just a web page, how can i have broadband with all the web pages
[18:06] <erUSUL> !cli | EADG
[18:06] <ubotu> EADG: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:06] <pablo889> ???
[18:06] <DRebellion> Donkey718666, ubuntu isn't a program. it is a complete operating system.
[18:06] <Stagger> !it
[18:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:07] <vbabiy> Donkey718666: Have you booted the live CD
[18:07] <erUSUL> EADG: rm foo.bar
[18:07] <sergio_> can I have different wallpapers on each workspace with gnome???????
[18:07] <Donkey718666> havent done anything yet
[18:07] <S4nt4> vbabiy, ok thx I will keep asking here again for a while...
[18:07] <ejer> EADG: you can read why it won't work a bit here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/hard-disk-wipe-software-suggestions-600255/
[18:07] <DaveEngland> No package 'xrender' found <- Does anybody know, what should this be? I want to install beryl and get this error!
[18:07] <mosomaci> please help me...
[18:07] <Donkey718666> i am going to download ubuntu
[18:07] <EADG> ejer: hmm, journaled... well, if it can't be done, I'm not gonna worry about it then.
[18:07] <S4nt4> .
[18:07] <vbabiy> S4nt4: yeah
[18:07] <ejer> EADG: if you are worried, look at encfs
[18:07] <vbabiy> I am user some one has a fix
[18:08] <brobostigon> sergio_: in gnome,  dont think so, i use enlightenment, aand i can.
[18:08] <norml_advocate> ejer do you have a better idea for simpler code?   someone told me you could not access levels in gutsy.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[18:08] <S4nt4> Does anyone know how to change gdm resolution when it ignores xorg.conf ?
[18:08] <ejer> norml_advocate: depends what you want to do...
[18:08] <ejer> norml_advocate: I would remove gdm from starting at bootup, so you will always startin command line mode
[18:08] <Silvercircle> hi, i search a tool which can convert mkv container into a dvd image or avi files without loss of quality. anybody knows ?
[18:08] <norml_advocate> how do you remove gdm altogethor?
[18:08] <Lorenz1> Hello all!!
[18:09] <mon^rch> help... my wine menu disappeared. is there a tool that can re-generate it?
[18:09] <danbhfive> S4nt4: why do you even want to do that?  I don't have an answer, but its just a login screen...
[18:09] <thierry> salut
[18:09] <ejer> norml_advocate: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[18:09] <Lorenz1> I just installed ubuntu + ubuntu studio...
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> mon^rch: it disappeared, or you deleted it?
[18:09] <artti> Weird, my Xubuntu desktop changed to Ubuntu desktop.
[18:09] <norml_advocate> and then how would i access gdm once booted?
[18:09] <ahorriblemess> hello everyone
[18:09] <Lorenz1> first time ever Linux worked with my laptop integrated wifi :D
[18:09] <mon^rch> IndyGunFreak: yeah... I think so :P
[18:09] <Donkey718666> so when i install ubuntu how do i get all my driver back on the computer?
[18:09] <k4k> can someone list the files in their /varcache/apt and tell me howmany files they have please?
[18:09] <ejer> norml_advocate: then to start grafix you do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[18:09] <EADG> ejer: Naw, not worried at all, I just go through drives alot... usually pass down the old ones to friends/family, no biggie really. I thought wiping on the fly with Wipe would save abit of time nuking the drive before pulling it.
[18:09] <vbabiy> Lorenz1:
[18:09] <pablo889> hola
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> mon^rch: well thast not really an answer.
[18:09] <S4nt4> danbhfive, sure but its locked into a resolution my screen does not support !
[18:09] <vbabiy> Lorenz1: Wifi works well with ubuntu
[18:09] <mon^rch> IndyGunFreak: er deleted it
[18:09] <ejer> EADG: what you do is use DBAN after you are done with drive
[18:10] <S4nt4> danbhfive, so i have a blank screen
[18:10] <danbhfive> S4nt4: ah, now that IS a problem
[18:10] <ahorriblemess> I've downloaded and extracted a .tar.bz2 file, (MokoiGaming) but how do I install it? I tried "./configre ; make ; make install" but each of those commands come back with errors.
[18:10] <Lorenz1> who can I ask a newb question?
[18:10] <erUSUL> !ask
[18:10] <ahorriblemess> I don't know my codes too well and I've been searching for answers on google and the forums for 2 hours
[18:10] <ejer> !ask Lorenz1
[18:10] <ahorriblemess> ok, maybe 1 hour
[18:10] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask lorenz1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:10] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, have you read the README ?
[18:10] <faileas> ahorriblemess: do you have a compiler installed?
[18:10] <vbabiy> Lorenz1: Ask everyone someone will anser
[18:10] <Lorenz1> how do I know what version I am running?
[18:10] <brobostigon> Lorenz1: ask away, fire away??
[18:10] <mon^rch> IndyGunFreak: I have been going back and forth between wine and crossover trying to get win32 apps in my ubuntu... deleted lots in the process
[18:10] <ejer> Lorenz1: cat /etc/issue
[18:11] <erUSUL> !version | Lorenz1
[18:11] <ubotu> Lorenz1: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[18:11] <mosomaci> something
[18:11] <faileas> ahorriblemess:  or more specificially the package build-essential i think
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> well, you should have paid more attention
[18:11] <mosomaci> :( help
[18:11] <Lorenz1> I mean Gutsy Gibbon or feitsy etc
[18:11] <danbhfive> S4nt4: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[18:11] <ahorriblemess> Drebellion: there's a readme in a subfolder, but it's empty
[18:11] <vbabiy> mosomaci: help is not a question :)
[18:11] <ahorriblemess> faileas: yes I have build-essential
[18:12] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, could you pastebin a list of the files in the directory, and the errors you get.
[18:12] <S4nt4> danbhfive, sure... how do I do that ?? :)
[18:12] <mosomaci> vbabiy ok8-)
[18:12] <KEB1> (19:06:51) KEBA: vidalia wants that i fill in a pw, i dont know what to do... do you know ehat i can do? <-- does anyne know?
[18:12] <ejer> Lorenz1: answer ubotu just gave is correct
[18:12] <ahorriblemess> how would I list the files through the terminal?
[18:12] <Donkey718666> so when i install ubuntu how do i get all my driver back on the computer?
[18:12] <danbhfive> !paste | S4nt4
[18:12] <ubotu> S4nt4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:12] <ejer> ahorriblemess: ls -l
[18:12] <ahorriblemess> Drebellion: sorry, how do I list the files in teh terminal
[18:12] <gatestone> ahorriblemess, what's the first error ./configure gives?
[18:12] <prince_jammys> ahorriblemess: ls
[18:12] <ahorriblemess> ejer: ok
[18:12] <mon^rch> IndyGunFreak: it's not a huge deal... I can invoke wine by other means... just the menu makes it look polished
[18:12] <ahorriblemess> haha AHH!!
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> Lorenz1: i didn't see if your question got answered, but open a terminal, and type "lsb_release -a" no quotes, and that will show your ubuntu version
[18:13] <the_empty> I am running 7.6- is the in-place 7.10 pretty good at not frying my box and forcing a reinstall?
[18:13] <vbabiy> Donkey718666: it will do it for you also you can use Restricted Drive Manager for some video cards and wifi and modems
[18:13] <S4nt4> !paste | S4nt4
[18:13] <Itaku> ouch lol
[18:13] <Itaku> he got klined
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> mon^rch: wel, youc an go through and manually add it back in..
[18:13] <k4k> hm, that's strange, I can't seem to open any of my programs now either...anyone know what's going on?
[18:13] <BadRobot> Hi there
[18:13] <ahorriblemess> gatestone: bash ./configure No suck file or directory
[18:13] <Donkey718666> what is the best way to learn how to use the program?
[18:14] <BadRobot> is there any way to install Ubuntu,keeping /home ?
[18:14] <vbabiy> Which program?
[18:14] <geekahedron> this is minor, but is there a way to configure grub to be "silent" and not show the mess of commands as it's initially loading?
[18:14] <ahorriblemess> !paste
[18:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: what program?
[18:14] <S4nt4> danbhfive, it's here: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=191331
[18:14] <danbhfive> BadRobot: separate partition for /home
[18:14] <Donkey718666> ubuntu
[18:14] <aoupi> BadRobot: is /home on it's own partition?
[18:14] <gatestone> ahorriblemess, you are trying too much. Check the games you can install with Synaptic first.
[18:14] <DRebellion> Donkey718666, ubuntu is not a program. it is a complete operating system.
[18:14] <mon^rch> IndyGunFreak: did that... just waiting to log out and back in to see if it worked... doing too much atm to test that theory. I reinstalled wine from scratch, and thought it would rebuild the menu... not
[18:14] <mosomaci> Question: I have got 17" lcd 75hz monitor and ATI cardHD2400 PRo i setup catalyst driver, but interlaced picture...
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: ubuntu is not a program, its an operating system
[18:14] <mosomaci> why?
[18:14] <danbhfive> S4nt4: what resolution do you want?
[18:14] <Donkey718666> i meant to use the OS
[18:14] <vbabiy> Donkey718666: If you mean Ubuntu (Which is a OS) https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[18:14] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56768/plain/
[18:15] <prince_jammys> geekahedron: you can add "quiet" to menu.lst, i think.  check online for a sample
[18:15] <S4nt4> danbhfive, 1280x1024
[18:15] <vbabiy> Donkey718666: that is a good place to start
[18:15] <clocKwize> how do i get gnome to start a program when i log in?
[18:15] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, what is help?
[18:15] <mon^rch> IndyGunFreak: ty for paying attention and supporting the users :)
[18:15] <Donkey718666> kk thank you! Also would you say that it is better then Windows Vista?
[18:15] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: well, start at http://www.ubuntu.com then look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu/Gutsy
[18:15] <ejer> clocKwize: system>preferences>settings
[18:15] <ahorriblemess> Drebellion: xml files
[18:15] <mosomaci> s4nt4 really 1280×1024 resolution
[18:15] <ejer> clocKwize: duh... sessions
[18:15] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, =/
[18:15] <S4nt4> mosomaci, yes, why ?
[18:15] <ejer> clocKwize: system>preferences>sessions
[18:16] <clocKwize> i can't see anyway to add stuff to that
[18:16] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: an abacus is better than Windows Vista
[18:16] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: one is creating games, the other is main, can't seem to open them though
[18:16] <vbabiy> Donkey718666: I personally would say yes... But it all depends on the user
[18:16] <geekahedron> prince_jammys: it already has a 'quiet' line .. does that have to be first?
[18:16] <mosomaci> slowly window
[18:16] <gatestone> ahorriblemess, try "./linuxengine-bin"
[18:16] <ejer> clocKwize: add button?
[18:16] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, have you tried with your web browser?
[18:16] <k4k> prince_jammys: ok, looks like I'm missing pkgcache.bin in /var/cache/apt
[18:16] <ahorriblemess> gatestone: ok
[18:16] <mosomaci> good question?
[18:16] <danbhfive> S4nt4: well, try changing the order of the resolutions on the Modes line, see if that helps, other than that, i dont know
[18:16] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: I just clicked "run file"
[18:16] <ahorriblemess> nothing happened
[18:17] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: download hte live CD, and see if you like it, it works for lots of folks, doesn't work for some, figure out what programs you use in Windows, and see if you can find Linux alternatives.
[18:17] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, open up firefox, and do file:///path/to/xmlfile.xml
[18:17] <ahorriblemess> gatestone: same thing
[18:17] <S4nt4> danbhfive, I've tried in every possible way. Including letting 1280x1024 alone...Does not work
[18:17] <irishdave> hey, ive messed up my install, i had installed ubuntu, then opensuse on a seperate partition. I then decided to format the opensuse partition to give me more space. sadly its not booting anymore, i think i need to reinstall grub to the mbr
[18:17] <irishdave> how?
[18:17] <vbabiy> Donkey718666: Also use that wiki there is a whole bunch of useful information on there.
[18:17] <jimmygoon> How do I compare two directories (recursively) and see what files are different?
[18:17] <erUSUL> !grub | irishdave
[18:18] <ubotu> irishdave: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:18] <brobostigon> !grub | irishdave
[18:18] <jianfei> anyone got the novell login client working on ubuntu/gutsy?
[18:18] <ejer> irishdave: use livecd, then use install-grub command in CLI
[18:18] <jimmygoon> I need to merge an old backup with my current copy of the data w/o recopying all 20 gig of it becuase that will take an hour
[18:18] <trista1> geekahedron: back in ubuntu
[18:18] <erUSUL> jimmygoon: text files ??
[18:18] <trista1> :)
[18:18] <trista1> finally
[18:18] <morrison666> i
[18:18] <deeptrance> i am looking for a good c/c+/c++ compiler what is a good recommendation?
[18:18] <DRebellion> jimmygoon, try diff
[18:18] <jimmygoon> erUSUL, I don't need to compare the files, just add the new ones - its all my family photots
[18:18] <vbabiy> deeptrance: gcc
[18:18] <S4nt4> Does anyone know how to change gdm resolution when it ignores xorg.conf ?
[18:18] <Lorenz1> ok manged!!
[18:18] <deeptrance> thanks
[18:18] <jimmygoon> deeptrance, gcc - gnu compiler collection
[18:18] <k4k> ok, so now updatedb doesn't work...
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> !c+ | deeptrance
[18:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c+ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:18] <Lorenz1> thanks this community is fantastic!
[18:18] <erUSUL> jimmygoon: maybe with rsync
[18:19] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: I tried that, it says  "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below."
[18:19] <k4k> updatedb: fatal error: Unable to create database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db
[18:19] <jimmygoon> DRebellion, will try
[18:19] <ejer> S4nt4: try dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from CLI
[18:19] <natbet> is it possible to install using LVM partitions via the live cd? or will I have to use the alternative cd?
[18:19] <jimmygoon> erUSUL, I wondered if that might work
[18:19] <S4nt4> ejer, I tried that already
[18:19] <S4nt4> ejer, I tried lot of settings
[18:19] <Lorenz1> I hope one day I'll manage to throw away my W|ndowz crap
[18:19] <bmjackal> Hi... I need an advice with NowPlaying screenlet... If I want it to work with Amarok, I have to restart it AFTER I run Amarok, then it shows the names correctly. Is there a way to fix this?
[18:19] <ahorriblemess> I'll keep trying stuff
[18:19] <vbabiy> Lorenz1:  Whats holding you back
[18:19] <prince_jammys> geekahedron: here's a sample line from mine:   kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3b2d147d-9dc7-4bf1-9105-64c7597403e8 ro quiet splash
[18:20] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, its the authors fault for not including instructions
[18:20] <ejer> S4nt4: next step is to try metamodes, but you should be sure driver is right, check logs for errors etc
[18:20] <joanki> !rq joanki
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rq joanki - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <danbhfive> S4nt4: have you tried this line?          Virtual     1280 1024
[18:20] <joanki> !rq metabol
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rq metabol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <S4nt4> danbhfive, yes I did
[18:20] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: yeah.. I might just try a different program. thanks for trying to help though
[18:20] <danbhfive> S4nt4: heh, kk
[18:21] <ahorriblemess> gatestone: you too, thank you
[18:21] <S4nt4> ejer, drver is radeon. logs does not say anything because gdm is ok with choosing a bad resolution
[18:21] <Donkey718666> are you able to put on your own program on the OS like Mcafee? Also how can i get Microsoft Office on the computer?
[18:21] <S4nt4> danbhfive, but thx anyway :))
[18:21] <ejer> S4nt4: what rez do you want
[18:21] <NET||abuse> Hey guys, i'm trying to get going with svn here, i've created a local repository, but i'd like to use a good gui tool to use while working on my files, i used a simple tortoisesvn system 2 years back when i was in another job, now i'm working on html documents for project documentation, i wanted to version control them as i'll be in collaboration with 2 others on it. What tools do others use in this manner?
[18:21] <S4nt4> ejer, 1280x1024
[18:22] <gatestone> ahorriblemess, seem like they have support forum at Mokoi Games...
[18:22] <NET||abuse> I've tried esvn and find it sucky,
[18:22] <ejer> S4nt4: can you get it with ati driver?
[18:22] <NET||abuse> i'm looking at wvnworkbench, andhavn't had a great start with it.
[18:22] <ahorriblemess> gatestone: they do, I might have followed the wrong link but there wasn't much on there... or it forwarded me to a list.php
[18:22] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: 1.  in general, Linux does  not need antivirus software, you can run MS Office, but it runs with varing degrees of success.. most people switch to open office.
[18:22] <k4k> anyone know what this means, I get it when I type mount
[18:22] <S4nt4> ejer, isnt radeon the same as ati ?
[18:22] <NET||abuse> what else would people recomend?
[18:22] <sofiankrt> whenever I ./configure I'm getting a configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[18:22] <geekahedron> prince_jammys: i have the same line .. the ubuntu splash loads quietly, there's just a bunch of spam before that (looks as if it's printing out the menu.lst file as it reads it)
[18:22] <k4k> /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro
[18:22] <ejer> S4nt4: no
[18:22] <S4nt4> ejer I thought it was just an alias
[18:22] <ejer> NET||abuse: maybe http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/
[18:23] <killown>  I have a Nvidia Gefore FX 5500 I would like to disable VSync, how can I dot it?
[18:23] <ejer> S4nt4: ati is free radeon driver
[18:23] <ahorriblemess> gatestone: but I will try again, thanks
[18:23] <DRebellion> sofiankrt, have you installed the package build-essential?
[18:23] <S4nt4> and radeon is proprietary ?
[18:23] <Donkey718666> indy: i have Windows OS at the moment. Is this OS Linux version
[18:23] <Donkey718666> ?
[18:23] <ejer> S4nt4: yes
[18:23] <NET||abuse> ejer, thanks, i think i saw that sometime ago, forgot about it..
[18:23] <prince_jammys> geekahedron: mmm i get a little bit of that too, very short.  i dont know how to suppress that
[18:23] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: yes, Ubuntu is a version of Linux
[18:23] <aoupi> k4k: it means the second partition of the device /dev/sda (/dev/sda2) is mounted on / (your root), it's mounted readwrite and in case of error it should be remounted read only
[18:23] <erUSUL> S4nt4: ati driver will load readeon or r128 repending on the chip the card uses
[18:23] <ejer> NET||abuse: good to learn the CLI anyways tho
[18:23] <sofiankrt> DRebellion: where can I find that? how do I install it?
[18:23] <epswing> i just inserted a "D-Link DFE-550TX FAST Ethernet 10/100 Adapter" into a ubuntu 7.10's PCI, and when i throw an eth cable into it, i get the lights going, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig. any suggestions? am i missing a driver?
[18:23] <S4nt4> ejer, sorry I just checked my xorg.cong it s ati I'm using
[18:23] <Polarina> IndyGunFreak: GNU/Linux, to correct you. :)
[18:23] <DRebellion> sofiankrt, in your terminal, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:23] <jimmygoon> erUSUL, rsync works beautifully . thanks!
[18:23] <Donkey718666> So will anything go wrong if i install it on a windows computer?
[18:24] <IndyGunFreak> Polarina: if i need your correciton, i'll ask
[18:24] <ejer> S4nt4: that is prolly problem, use restricted-manager to install radeon
[18:24] <NET||abuse> ejer, well, i'm learning it for running the backend repository anyway
[18:24] <ahmad> i use kaffeine to watch my dvb and it is work fine < my problem is that < i want to scan Channel for other sat < so each time i change the sat i need to delete the old sat channel
[18:24] <aoupi> k4k: you can see 'man mount' for more mount options
[18:24] <erUSUL> jimmygoon: no problem
[18:24] <sofiankrt> DRebellion: when I'm in the source directory?
[18:24] <ejer> NET||abuse: you have no choice, it is integrated
[18:24] <DRebellion> Donkey718666, you don't seem to understand the nature of an operating system.
[18:24] <geekahedron> prince_jammys: okay, thanks. maybe there's something i can do in neogrub to prevent it
[18:24] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: provided you setup your system properly, you can install Linux beside windows w/o issue.
[18:24] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: ah, what about a terminal response to "sudo make install Alchera" that says, "No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.
[18:24] <genius> can anyone help me to test OpenVPN?
[18:24] <DRebellion> sofiankrt, anywhere#
[18:24] <k4k> aoupi: ok, so I can't write anything to /var which is part of /, does that mean I have to reboot?
[18:24] <NET||abuse> ejer, no choice?
[18:24] <S4nt4> ejer, I used to use radeon, but 3D didnt work
[18:24] <sofiankrt> DRebellion: ok, great! thanks!
[18:24] <ahmad> so is there any way to scan for one time  many sat
[18:24] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: doesn't that imply that I should create a target directory?
[18:24] <ejer> NET||abuse: svn comes with ccli tools
[18:25] <gatestone> ahorriblemess, I am trying Mokoi, downloading now
[18:25] <Donkey718666> well i understand i just dont want to unistall this one and not be able to have all my drivers installed on the new one
[18:25] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, erm, where did you get a Makefile from?
[18:25] <S4nt4> ejer, and beside gdm, ati is working 3D effects a lot better
[18:25] <ejer> S4nt4: well, that is another problem :)
[18:25] <erUSUL> ahorriblemess: install is not a target of the makefile
[18:25] <ahorriblemess> gatestone: ok awesome, thanks
[18:25] <S4nt4> ejer, true..
[18:25] <IndyGunFreak> Donkey718666: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[18:25] <ejer> S4nt4: is your card supported?
[18:25] <aoupi> k4k: no, I think that is not related
[18:25] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: http://mokoi.sourceforge.net/
[18:25] <S4nt4> ejer, on feisty I had no problems using ati though...
[18:25] <NET||abuse> ejer, oh this i know ;) i've created 3 repositories already, just for some different projects,, but want to find a decent way to visually manage it also
[18:25] <ahorriblemess> oh wait
[18:25] <S4nt4> ejer, yes radeon 9500 pro
[18:25] <aoupi> k4k: if your root partition had been remounted readonly you'd have noticed it
[18:25] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, different program?
[18:25] <S4nt4> ejer and beside gdm everything is fine !!
[18:25] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: no, sorry, I'm just typing "make install" for whatever I think
[18:26] <k4k> aoupi: I think I did, my computer locked up for about 3 minutes with a lot of hard drive activity
[18:26] <k4k> I just didn't know what to make of it
[18:26] <genius> Please, help me test OpenVPN connection, i will give all configs and it will take 5 minutes of your time...
[18:26] <aoupi> k4k: only root can write to /var
[18:26] <ejer> S4nt4: u r saying that when you log in, rez changes to be right?
[18:26] <ahmad>  i use kaffeine to watch my dvb and it is work fine < my problem is that < i want to scan Channel for other sat < so each time i change the sat i need to delete the old sat channel
[18:26] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: Alchera is in the MokoiGaming folder
[18:26] <k4k> aoupi: I'm root when I try to do things
[18:26] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: I'm just trying things out
[18:26] <S4nt4> ejer, yes ! and 3D is perfect
[18:26] <aoupi> k4k: if your root had been remounted readonly you wouldn't be able to write anywhere
[18:26] <S4nt4> ejer, the compiz cube is smooth and so on...
[18:26] <geekahedron> i do not see my soundcard/chipset listed at alsa, is there a better way to get my sound working?
[18:26] <aoupi> k4k: (except on separate mountpoints of course)
[18:26] <pablo889> i have not broadband, but why have i got broadband with a few pages?
[18:26] <NET||abuse> ejer, thanks for that, rapidsvn already easier to work with :)
[18:26] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, 0.o i'll take a look at this...
[18:27] <k4k> aoupi: ok that answer my question, I'll reboot to see if that fixes it
[18:27] <aoupi> k4k: if your drive made weird noices you should probably run fsck on it
[18:27] <norml_advocate> does anyone know where to get cool login window schemes?
[18:27] <Mardoxx> is there an easy way to get rid of the ubuntu branding
[18:27] <prince_jammys> !themes | norml_advocate
[18:27] <ubotu> norml_advocate: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:27] <ejer> S4nt4: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4271689 can help
[18:27] <NetWork_> !tapavu __aib
[18:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tapavu __aib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:27] <k4k> aoupi: my hard drive always makes weird noises, it's 10 years old
[18:27] <codicealpha> hi to everybody
[18:27] <ejer> k4k: if your drive is making noise, back it up first, then do stuff
[18:28] <k4k> ejer: there's nothing important on it
[18:28] <k4k> ejer: but thanks
[18:28] <ejer> means it will die soon prolly
[18:28] <ejer> so be careful
[18:28] <aoupi> k4k: hah, good thing you don't have anything important on it  :)
[18:28] <ahmad>  i use kaffeine to watch my dvb and it is work fine < my problem is that < i want to scan Channel for other sat < so each time i change the sat i need to delete the old sat channel
[18:28] <k4k> I'm guessing, it's a 10 year old dell that I got for free so I could care less, I'll just get a new drive
[18:28] <S4nt4> ejer, i look at it. Thx !
[18:29] <k4k> aoupi: JBD: Failed to read block at offset 4419
[18:29] <kwajstabo> I would like to install octave-3. The ./configure returns " WARNING: I need GNU Readline 4.2 or later". I installed the Readline 5.2, but i still receive the same error. Any idea what could be wrong?
[18:29] <aoupi> k4k: ouch
[18:29] <geekahedron> k4k: you mean you couldn't care less
[18:29] <k4k> geekahedron: yea...woops
[18:29] <k4k> bbl, class
[18:29]  * k4k reboots
[18:29] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, just run Alchera maybe?
[18:30] <geekahedron> lspci shows: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[18:30] <kostkon> kwajstabo, you mean the libreadline-dev?
[18:30] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: I tried that, I just typed "Alchera" is there another command? Like "run Alchera" or something?
[18:31] <mon^rch> can someone help me to be able to have the images in my webgallery autofit to pages when browsed... I see this feature in nearly every gallery I surf... except mine. :(
[18:31] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: I might just try different software and forget about this whole Mokoi fiasco
[18:31] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, cd to the directory, type ./Alchera
[18:31] <kostkon> kwajstabo, you need to install libreadline5-dev and not libreadline5 to compile octave
[18:31] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: ah... that opened something
[18:32] <okinawainstrocto> I am trying to install Ubuntu server (hardy) but when the install gets to the grub install portion it keeps failing.. any ideas?
[18:32] <geekahedron> mon^rch: get bigger images? also, not really an ubuntu question
[18:32] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: it brought up a window to create (I'm assuming a game), but it crashed, "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[18:32] <DRebellion> ahorriblemess, that's a problem in the source code. Seriously, just forget this crap.
[18:33] <kwajstabo> kostkon: will try that, thank you
[18:33] <ahorriblemess> DRebellion: yeah... forgotten haha. thanks for trying to help
[18:33] <prince_jammys> okinawainstrocto: #ubuntu+1
[18:33] <mon^rch> geekahedron: yeah I know it's not an ubuntu question... more of a kompozer question... BUT none of the other channels are "alive" and you guys are pretty smart.... what I'm after is to have my "large" images scaled to fit the browser window. having probs. it's odd cos all the other galleries I browse autofit. :/
[18:33] <unenough> hi, i just resized my NTFS partition that precedes the ubuntu root / and now i have more space - but i need to move back the ubuntu root partition and resize it. how can i do it?
[18:34] <gub> lol
[18:34] <DRebellion> unenough, gparted
[18:34] <prince_jammys> !gparted | unenough
[18:34] <ubotu> unenough: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[18:35] <prince_jammys> unenough: get the live cd
[18:35] <DaveEngland> No package 'xrender' found <- i get this error, when i try to install beryl. Can someone help me pls?
[18:35] <unenough> ok, the live cd is what i need. i can't do this while my system is up, obviously.
[18:35] <unenough> thanks.
[18:35] <geekahedron> mon^rch: if you're looking at a plain image in the browser, it's up to the browser to resize it to fit .. if it's an html page that contains an image, it generally won't change its size unless you force it with javascript (which imo is pretty messy)
[18:36] <mon^rch> geekahedron: so I need to js my page to force the images to autofit? can you perhaps provide a sample?
[18:36] <^CatMan^> i need some help with this error message that i got while trying to run slune:
[18:36] <^CatMan^> Video mode set failed : Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[18:36] <^CatMan^> Exception exceptions.TypeError: 'exceptions must be strings, classes, or instances, not exceptions.RuntimeError' in '_soya.init_video' ignored
[18:36] <^CatMan^> * Soya 3D * Warning : glGetString returns NULL!
[18:36] <^CatMan^> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:36] <FloodBot2> ^CatMan^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <DaveEngland> No package 'xrender' found <- i get this error, when i try to install beryl. Can someone help me pls?
[18:37] <prince_jammys> !beryl | DaveEngland
[18:37] <ubotu> DaveEngland: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:37] <prince_jammys> !compiz | DaveEngland
[18:37] <ubotu> DaveEngland: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:38] <Mardoxx> is there an easy way to get rid of the ubuntu branding
[18:38] <Raizard> I've installed Pulse Audio, but i don't know if i have to chose ESD or ALSA to use it. All two servers works good. What do i have to use?
[18:38] <luisa> when ubuntu is booting up?
[18:38] <prince_jammys> Mardoxx: on the startup splash screen?
[18:38] <aoupi> Mardoxx: run debian ;)
[18:38] <ejer> Mardoxx: change theme or use debian
[18:39] <geekahedron> mon^rch: try http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/resize.html
[18:39] <mon^rch> geekahedron: tyvm
[18:39] <ejer> Raizard: if it works, use it ;)
[18:39] <gatestone> ahorriblemess, looks like you need various SDL etc.. libraries for Mokoi
[18:39] <Raizard> ok but i have to chose ALSA or ESD to use Pulse audio?
[18:39] <Mardoxx> but does debian auto configure everything? (because im sick of gentoo now lol)
[18:39] <ejer> Raizard: yep, alsa is usually ok
[18:40] <Raizard> ok good
[18:40] <ejer> Mardoxx: yes, debian is alot faster to get running than gentoo :)
[18:40] <Raizard> thx a lot!
[18:40] <AtomicSpark> deb panz joo!
[18:40] <^CatMan^> ejer: can u help me with a video card problem? plz?
[18:40] <ejer> ^CatMan^: not without knowing question
[18:41] <^CatMan^> i tried to run slune and it kicked back an error
[18:41] <ejer> u don't have the right stuff installed... I don't know that app
[18:41] <gatestone> ahorriblemess, install the requirements in https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=173943&release_id=5679 and it works!
[18:41] <ejer> ^CatMan^: look at requirements http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Arcade/Slune-9659.shtml
[18:41] <^CatMan^> i'm pretty sure it's a glx prblem
[18:42] <jimmygoon> how could I detemine my HD manufacturer?
[18:42] <^CatMan^> cuz i can't run any opengl apps either
[18:42] <ejer> ^CatMan^: did you install it in ubuntu?
[18:42] <^CatMan^> i'm pretty sure i did
[18:42] <ejer> can you run glxgears?
[18:42] <ConstyXIV> is there any way to mute ubuntu's startup sound from the livecd?
[18:43] <luisa> Yes
[18:43] <norml_advocate> what exactly is "gdm"?
[18:43] <^CatMan^> no, it kicked out an error
[18:43] <DRebellion> !gdm | norml_advocate
[18:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:43] <DRebellion> :O
[18:43] <ejer> norml_advocate: gnome display manager
[18:43] <luisa> ConstyXIV go to System>preferences>sound
[18:43] <ConstyXIV> norml_advocate: the login window, more or less
[18:43] <alumno04> hi
[18:43] <norml_advocate> thanks
[18:43] <ejer> ^CatMan^: you need to install the right driver, what sort of vid card
[18:43] <alumno04> I use edubuntu 7.10, I havent sound in clients
[18:43] <DRebellion> jimmygoon, sudo lshw
[18:44] <IndyGunFreak> alumno04: whats your sound device?
[18:44] <ConstyXIV> luisa: i meant before it boots: i'm installing the livecd in a library, and don't want to PO people
[18:44] <makkan> anyone using *buntu on older hardware <300MHz and willing to give some speedup tips?
[18:44] <luisa> ConstyXIV: go to System>preferences>sound, then choose No Sound for those you dont want sound for
[18:44] <alumno04> IndyGunFreak: sis7019
[18:44] <ConstyXIV> makkan: more ram == good
[18:44] <alumno04> all clients used the same
[18:44] <^CatMan^> ejer:  i think an Nidea TNT2
[18:44] <oompa_loompa> how can I install qtpasswd through apt-get ?
[18:44] <alumno04> *use
[18:44] <makkan> ConstyXIV: I
[18:45] <makkan> m maxed out at 96M
[18:45] <ejer> ^CatMan^: not even sure you can do gl with that
[18:45] <ConstyXIV> ah
[18:45] <kostkon> makkan, better install xubuntu
[18:45] <mon^rch> geekahedron: here's my gallery----> http://gardenofeden.dyndns.org/galleries/wallpaper/index.html (see what I mean)? if I choose "view image" it autosizes. Page was created with igal. Additional ideas to get the image to autofit (initially) much appreciated.
[18:45] <ejer> makkan: use a lighter WM like fluxbox
[18:45] <makkan> kostkon: Already have...
[18:45] <VvWolverinevV> can anyonetell me how to edit the alsa sound mixing permissions?
[18:45] <IndyGunFreak> alumno04: open a terminal and type "lspci" w/o quotes, and tell me how it identifies your sound device
[18:46] <kostkon> makkan, oh, I see. ok.
[18:46] <^CatMan^> ejer: Device Manager says : NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]
[18:46] <makkan> ejer: Will I gain much from fluxbox compared to XFCE?
[18:46] <ConstyXIV> makkan: or if you don't mind getting your hands dirty, use a bare Debian or the ubuntu jeos disc
[18:46] <fossilcat> ya alsa 2 me 2 !
[18:46] <ejer> ^CatMan^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[18:46] <geekahedron> mon^rch: why don't you want the full image to show, well, the full image?
[18:46] <Itaku> how do you login to an afp server off of ubuntu?
[18:46] <ejer> makkan: yes
[18:46] <^CatMan^> ejer: thanx, i'll check that out :)
[18:46] <Docfxit> I'm running x11vnc. I followed the instructions to install autocutsel. I made it so it's supposed to start on reboot. It's not working How can I see if it's running?
[18:47] <alumno04> IndyGunFreak: Do i use the tty1 terminal so i can use the local root, or just in a X terminal?
[18:47] <S4nt4> ejer, none of the solutions given on the forum makes a difference...
[18:47] <mengedej>  im running filezilla (synaptic version 3.0.0-ubuntu1), and filezilla ignores the automatic file type classification and consequently picks the wrong tranfer type for many files. I have no idea if this is a problem with my configuration or not? the same thing(?) happens with nautilus..
[18:47] <IndyGunFreak> alumno04: just in an x-terminal is fine
[18:47] <Itaku> how do i login to an afp server off of ubuntu?
[18:47] <alumno04> ok
[18:47] <S4nt4> ejer, gdm is completely ignoring anychange I do
[18:47] <oompa_loompa> any idea where to fin qtpasswd?
[18:47] <sbrandollo> Salve a tutti raga, posso chidere
[18:47] <makkan> think I'll go for fluxbox... I
[18:47] <alumno04> IndyGunFreak: i get the server devices
[18:47] <S4nt4> ejer, the only way I can show it up is when I select a screen graphically and choose 1280*960@60Hz
[18:48] <IndyGunFreak> alumno04: oh ok..
[18:48] <sbrandollo> sorry
[18:48] <alumno04> but if i do this in tty1 i get the client device
[18:48] <sbrandollo> :D
[18:48] <ejer> S4nt4: try taking out any configs done inside ubuntu, then drop to CLI and use dpkg-reconfigure
[18:48] <S4nt4> ejer, i just did it
[18:48] <enzo> i have firefox launched, and i'd like to relaunch it with a script, how can i do that ? i can send a kill signal, but ps uax |grep firefox gives 3 pid
[18:48] <alumno04> which do you need?
[18:48] <enzo> do you know if firefox stores the pid somewhere ?
[18:48] <ejer> S4nt4: if so, rez will not change when you login
[18:48] <S4nt4> ejer wait, what do you mean config down inside ubuntu ?
[18:48] <tux_> my new installed ubuntu only downloading in 250-300kb/s when updating from the local server my other box updates in like 1000-1400.. ??
[18:48] <mon^rch> geekahedron: because if anyone using a small screen res. the image is "cut off" and you cant see the whole image unless you "r-click + view image"... I want the pic to be scaled to the browser window initially. :/
[18:49] <geekahedron> alumno04: try "lspci | grep Audio" to get just the line(s) you want
[18:49] <ejer> S4nt4: system>prefs>screen resolution
[18:49] <fossilcat> i tried geexbox but it crashed. As soon as any movie is started the screen is just flickered. I use intel 845GVGL mobo. is it driver prob ?
[18:49] <ejer> mon^rch: this is a feature of the browser when you are viewing a jpg image
[18:49] <S4nt4> ejer, how do I take those conf out ?
[18:49] <Itaku> how do i login to an afp server off of ubuntu?
[18:50] <mon^rch> ejer: that's what I thought... look at my gallery and you will see what I mean http://gardenofeden.dyndns.org/galleries/wallpaper/index.html
[18:50] <ConstyXIV> Itaku: afp?
[18:50] <geekahedron> mon^rch: the way yours is set up now is what i would expect, a page of thumbnails and then a full-size image when i click on it
[18:50] <Itaku> yes..
[18:50] <ConstyXIV> Itaku: what's afp?
[18:50] <S4nt4> ejer, you mean selecting a low resolution ?
[18:50] <ejer> mon^rch: looks fine to me, you may want to look into lightbox javascript
[18:50] <mon^rch> geekahedron: um, thanks
[18:50] <Itaku> ... i dont know i just need to connect to one
[18:50] <geekahedron> mon^rch: the easy alternative is to have the thumbnails link to images instead of a webpage
[18:50] <Itaku> its the kind of servers Mac's connect to when you go to "Connect to server"
[18:50] <jabez> Hello everybody! :D
[18:51] <alumno04> IndyGunFreak: I get : 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)      Which is the server's soundcard
[18:51] <ApOgEE-> hi, i got problem with my usb mega steno
[18:51] <IndyGunFreak> alumno04: ok.. i really don't know much about that sound device, sorry.. try google.
[18:52] <mon^rch> geekahedron: ahhhhhhhhhhh I see what you mean!!! unfortunately making a page THAT way takes a long time without a gallery generator
[18:52] <alumno04> and, what about sis7019, which is client's sound device?
[18:52] <jabez> got question here. just got my DELL XPS 1730, would like to know how can i make it duel boot with ubuntu.
[18:52] <ejer> mon^rch: way too many images on that page ;)
[18:52] <makkan> thanks everybody
[18:52] <ApOgEE-> have anyone successfully use apacer usb mega steno on gutsy?
[18:53] <Itaku> how do i login to an afp server off of ubuntu?
[18:53] <mon^rch> ejer: wassamater... don't like nice looking wallpaper?
[18:53] <aspire> hello
[18:53] <geekahedron> mon^rch: you can write a php page to automatically generate pages thumbnails and links from the contents of a specified directory, maybe
[18:53] <ejer> mon^rch: those look like copyrighted images too :)
[18:54] <mon^rch> geekahedron: still learnig scripting...
[18:54] <mon^rch> : /
[18:54] <Itaku> how do i login to an afp server off of ubuntu?
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[18:54] <FloodBot2> daba: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <S4nt4> ejer, it s strange that the preferences allow me to change the resolution but there is only 1280x1024 in xorg.cong... isnt it ?
[18:54] <mon^rch> ejer: so dont report me
[18:54] <aspire> what can I do to mount a windows burned CD on my ubuntu system
[18:54] <ApOgEE-> have anyone successfully use apacer usb mega steno on gutsy?
[18:54] <Pici> Itaku: You'd need to explain to us what that is.
[18:54] <Itaku> its the kind of servers Mac's connect to when you go to "Connect to server"
[18:54] <ejer> Itaku: http://technically.us/code/x/a-year-of-plaintext-afp-passwords-is-enough ?
[18:54] <jabez> got question here. just got my DELL XPS 1730, would like to know how can i make it duel boot with ubuntu.
[18:55] <geekahedron> jabez: what is the other OS? vista i assume?
[18:55] <ejer> mon^rch: http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/ is what you want
[18:55] <mon^rch> ejer: and I'm not selling them, so
[18:55] <jabez> is vista
[18:55] <ejer> mon^rch: ok, just a comment... and you don't have to sell them of course to contravene copyright
[18:56] <geekahedron> jabez: the easiest way is to free space using the vista partitioner, then install ubuntu to the unallocated space
[18:56] <DRebellion> Itaku, wikipedia says netatalk, afpfs-ng or jaffer
[18:56] <Itaku> its the kind of servers Mac's connect to when you go to "Connect to server"
[18:56] <ejer> S4nt4: its a tough one, I would manually drop to CLI, move the xorg.conf file, amke sure X won't start then dpkg-reconfigure
[18:56] <Kase1> i tried to install apache2 php and mysql, apache2 is running now, with php-modul, but if it try to open a php page like <?php phpinfo(); ?> it want to download it,
[18:56] <Docfxit> How can I see running processes?
[18:56] <mon^rch> ejer: ty for the link... I will check it out
[18:57] <Jouva> aspire: If you're using the GUI it SHOULD just work when you pop it in.
[18:57] <jabez> i did geekahedron, but after that it becomes unbootable for both, vista and ubuntu
[18:57] <Kase1> apache2.conf is loading php5.conf
[18:57] <S4nt4> ejer, ok I'll try to kill every X processes...
[18:58] <ejer> S4nt4: ctrl-alt-f1, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:58] <ejer> then do your reconfigure
[18:58] <aspire> Jouva: it brings up a message can not mount
[18:58] <gatestone> ConstyXIV, to disable sound on the live CD, did you try passing the kernel a paranmeter like ALSA=off or similar...
[18:58] <geekahedron> jabez: you did the "Guided - Use the largest continuous free space" during the ubuntu install?
[18:58] <Jouva> aspire: And the CD loads fine in windows?
[18:58] <aspire> yes it does
[18:59] <aspire> it says invalid mount point
[18:59] <Jouva> Do other CDs load for you on the ubuntu pc?
[18:59] <Jouva> Oh!
[18:59] <mon^rch> ejer: wow! cool tool! you use that yourself?
[18:59] <jabez> yes.
[18:59] <aspire> yes they do
[18:59] <patogen> What is the best way to create an iso from a folder?
[18:59] <ejer> mon^rch: yep and so do many many others
[18:59] <Jouva> Did it tell you where? You probably need to recreate a directory or something
[18:59] <EADG> Docfxit: open a terminal and type top. Q to quit. Or type ps -e |less
[18:59] <mon^rch> ejer: lemmee see your gallery?
[18:59] <ejer> nope
[18:59] <ejer> :)
[18:59] <Jouva> aspire: So just that one tells you invalid mount point?
[18:59] <mon^rch> haha
[18:59] <Itaku> aw shit
[18:59] <Itaku> help
[19:00] <aspire> Jouva: it is trying to mount a UDF Volume for some reason whilst it is a fat32
[19:00] <Itaku> my sound wont come out
[19:00] <nucco> hi, I've got a tar.gz of fbreader, and it recommends I untar it in "/", is this a safe thing to do?
[19:00] <Itaku> although everything in the alsamixer command is up
[19:00] <nickrud> !language | Itaku
[19:00] <ubotu> Itaku: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:00] <wild_oscar> greetings, could anyone help me try to reproduce a bug in Evince printing?
[19:00] <Jouva> aspire: ...CDs shouldn't ever be fat32
[19:00] <DRebellion> nucco, safe, yes. i wouldn't recommend it though.
[19:00] <Itaku> my god im an idiot
[19:00] <aspire> Jouva: I made an assumption about its file system, what I meant is that it is burned with windows
[19:01] <Itaku> i had my stupid cord in the wrong hole
[19:01] <MrKnights> Hey does anyone know of any software that will sync files?
[19:01] <drayen> anyone know if quad cores are worth the extra money - does ubuntu take advantage of all the cores?
[19:01] <drayen> or is dual enough
[19:01] <ejer> MrKnights: unison
[19:01] <nucco> DRebellion: its packaged in a way that makes it look like it was installed "properly" which is why I consider doing it. its convenient
[19:01] <ejer> drayen: ubuntu can use all cores
[19:01] <lui_G> !de
[19:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:01] <MrKnights> ejer: now, googleing thanks
[19:01] <drayen> ejer: ok thanks :)
[19:02] <ejer> mon^rch: also see http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/05/18/30-best-solutions-for-image-galleries-slideshows-lightboxes/
[19:02] <Jouva> aspire: Heh, I just found an article for the OPPOSITE: A windows PC not being able to load a UDF CD :)
[19:02] <Docfxit> EADG » Tx
[19:02] <_Casey_> is there a win4lin channel
[19:02] <aspire> lol, it was created on a PC
[19:02] <drayen> mon^rch: you might also look at thickbox
[19:03] <Jouva> aspire: Yeah but UDF is a less common format, etc etc.
[19:03] <aspire> Jouva: that is not the problem it is because ubuntu is set to mount the CD as a UDF
[19:03] <_Casey_> Anyone know how to run win4lin fullscreen
[19:03] <drayen> mon^rch: which is a jquery thing or if you want to get really fancy take a look at the interface plugin for jquery
[19:03] <Arelis> Hi all. I have a week free time (school vacation) now, and the first thing i want to do is install Ubuntu because i've gotten so used to it that without it i feel very limited (on my own home computer, that is). I want to resize a partition on the first harddrive in my computer that contains a windows installation that was on this computer when it was bought (so i guess it's an OEM version). I want to do that so that i can install Ubuntu on th
[19:03] <tux_> how can i make ubuntu startx itself insted of login then startx
[19:03] <aspire> what can I do to mount this CD in its native type whatever it is
[19:03] <derwolfi81> hi ich brauche mal hilfe bitte peer pn melden
[19:03] <EADG> Docfxit: if you like top I recommend installing htop, easyier to use. pstree |less is also a command you can try.
[19:03] <S4nt4> ejer, no difference :(((
[19:03] <DRebellion> !de | derwolfi81
[19:03] <ubotu> derwolfi81: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:04] <ejer> tux_: it should by default, but if you turned it off, then sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults should do it
[19:04] <tux_> thx
[19:04] <ejer> err default?
[19:04] <S4nt4> ejer, do you know where the preferences read the configuration ?
[19:04] <Kase1> join #ubuntu-de
[19:04] <S4nt4> ejer, it looks like gdm use the same parameters
[19:04] <ejer> S4nt4: /etc/X11xorg.conf
[19:04] <Jouva> aspire: Do me a favor and open up a terminal and try doing: mount /mnt/cdrom with the disk in there (after the GUI complains it can't mount it)
[19:05] <S4nt4> ejer, there is only one rez in xorg.conf, but preferences allows a list
[19:05] <_Casey_> do they have a win4lin channel
[19:05] <derwolfi81> ich brauch nur hilfe mit der treiber instalation von ati treibern
[19:05] <tux_> i have been edit xorg cause of the screen to startx
[19:05] <tux_> default wil set the screen resolution bigger than the screen can.. so its not starting
[19:05] <aspire> Jouva: there is noting in the mount folder
[19:05] <geekahedron> Arelis: what version of windows is on there now?
[19:05] <Arelis> geekahedron: Windows XP
[19:06] <Jouva> aspire: Really? Hmmm
[19:06] <S4nt4> ejer, anyway thx a lot for your time :)
[19:06] <_Casey_> wow noone wants to help
[19:06] <Jouva> aspire: Go here and paste in what's in your /etc/fstab  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[19:06] <geekahedron> Arelis: check out the steps here: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
[19:06] <ejer> S4nt4: good luck
[19:07] <darklordveynom>  module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.   how do i fix that?
[19:07] <ejer> _Casey_: why would u use that
[19:07] <_Casey_> i need windows and linux?
[19:07] <ejer> _Casey_: you need remote access to windows desktop?
[19:07] <MrKnights> Does anyone remember what that shell for linux was that scrolled down from the top of the screen? i cant find it in the repos
[19:07] <aspire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56771/
[19:08] <aspire> Jouva:
[19:08] <Jouva> _Casey_: I'm not sure if there is one because it doesn't look like win4lin is an open source product and this network is more geared towards open source projects
[19:08] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: its not that nobody wants to heklp you, its because you've not asked a clear question
[19:08] <Jouva> looking
[19:08] <_Casey_> I would like to put Win4Lin in fullscreen mode.
[19:08] <ejer> _Casey_: use virtualbox for windows virtualization
[19:08] <_Casey_> Is it free?
[19:08] <ejer> yes
[19:08] <ejer> and better
[19:08] <aspire> Jouva: must I look in the media folder
[19:08] <aspire> ?
[19:09] <Jouva> aspire: Just a sec and I'll give you an answer
[19:09] <ejer> _Casey_: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[19:09] <Jouva> Cause agh I can NEVER get the ln -s parameters right and I forget the proper order
[19:09] <Jouva> Which parameter is the existing directory/file for ln -s
[19:09] <_Casey_> i will go download it
[19:10] <Jouva> aha got it
[19:10] <ejer> what are you trying to do Jouva
[19:10] <Jouva> I got it :)
[19:10] <Jouva> Oh ummm wait I need to know one more thing :)
[19:11] <Jouva> If I'm going to do two commands together at once and both require sudo, does && let me run both under one sudo?
[19:11] <Jouva> Or do I have to sudo foo && sudo bar
[19:11] <_Casey_> so brb guys
[19:11] <ejer> no Jouva
[19:11] <ejer> sudo thing && sudo thang
[19:12] <Zehsiol> hey can anyone lend me an ear for a sec?
[19:12] <_Casey_> 30
[19:12] <Docfxit> I installed autocutsel. It's in /usr/bin I doesn't work. I tried running it with autocutsel & I don't see it in the list when I run top
[19:12] <_Casey_> 30% downloaded* ;x
[19:12] <Jouva> aspire: Err I'm sorry lemme back up a second :) mount /mount/cdrom0
[19:12] <Jouva> er
[19:12] <Jouva> gah
[19:12] <Jouva> aspire: mount /media/cdrom0
[19:13] <Jouva> I'm so used to /mnt :P
[19:13] <aspire> yes done that but does not work
[19:13] <cofff> whats the command to make a port listen =\?
[19:13] <Jouva> Ok.
[19:13] <aspire> this gives me the same error
[19:13] <Jouva> ls -al /media yields nothing?
[19:13] <DaveEngland> !compiz
[19:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:13] <aspire> I need to use the -t option but am not sure to which file system I should set it
[19:13] <darklordveynom> !nvidia
[19:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:13] <Jouva> aspire: No no you need the directories under media to exist! ;)
[19:13] <aspire> Jouva: any idea what it should be I have tried mount -t iso9660, but does not work
[19:14] <aoupi> cofff: you have to be more specific, what do you want to do?
[19:14] <bluefox83> how would i go about running amarok over ssh?
[19:14] <EADG> Docfxit: top will only show the "top" processes, you should look for your program with ps. ps -e |grep autocut
[19:14] <aspire> Jouva:  yes they exist
[19:14] <brobostigon> bluefox83: ssh -X IP
[19:14] <bluefox83> so far i have tried ssh -f 192.168.1.5 amarok
[19:14] <dbe`> How can I mount a USB memory in a GUI if it does not mount automatically?
[19:14] <aoupi> bluefox83: you mean like x11forwarding? that doesn't work with sound AFAIK
[19:14] <Jouva> aspire: Oh they DO exist? I accidentally told you to do mount with /mnt/cdrom before. What specific error does it give with mount /media/cdrom0
[19:15] <aspire> Jouva: when I try to mount it it says that it is not a block device
[19:15] <aoupi> bluefox83: perhaps some sharing sollution might be better, like daap
[19:15] <Jouva> Ok
[19:15] <bluefox83> aoupi, no, i want to forward the app so i can control the copy of amarok on this machine, from my laptop
[19:15] <norml_advocate> !themes
[19:15] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:15] <dbe`> Where do I mount/umount in a GUI?
[19:15] <Zehsiol> Hey, how do i find out whether or not my hardware is compatible with Ubuntu?
[19:15] <bluefox83> but it gives me "cannot connect to X server"
[19:16] <dbe`> Zehsiol: See the hardware page at fsf.org to make sure you buy hardware that is compatible with free dists.
[19:16] <ere4si> !hardware | Zehsiol
[19:16] <ubotu> Zehsiol: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[19:16] <goldensun>  1435:0427
[19:16] <goldensun> je sais sa
[19:16] <Zehsiol> thanks :D
[19:16] <Pici> !fr | goldensun
[19:16] <ubotu> goldensun: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:16] <goldensun> mais y'a pas le chipset
[19:16] <aoupi> bluefox83: make sure you have X11Forwarding enabled in your /etc/ssh/sshd_conf on the machine you ssh to
[19:17] <Docfxit> EADG » Tx. Now I see it's running three times.
[19:17] <Jouva> aspire: While I'm looking around, pop in a working CD just to double triple check it right now
[19:17] <dbe`> How do I admin mount from a graphical application?
[19:17] <[Chief]> hey, does somebody know, how I can set the proxy in the gnome-network-prefernces via the command line?
[19:17] <aspire> Jouva: dmesg | tail
[19:17] <aspire> [15799.256000] UDF-fs: No fileset found
[19:17] <aspire> [15799.488000] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[19:17] <aspire> [15983.232000] UDF-fs: No fileset found
[19:17] <aspire> [15983.460000] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[19:17] <FloodBot2> aspire: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <norml_advocate> What is the best music player/manager ?  Something like amarok but more powerful
[19:17] <wild_oscar> when you print a document in evince, what controls the print dialog that appears?
[19:18] <Jouva> Ok
[19:18] <ejer> norml_advocate: depends what you want, I use amarok for local playback mpd for the jukebox
[19:18] <Jouva> aspire: Was that some other CD?
[19:18] <niknik> Hi, this might sound like a stupid question, but I just installed Ubuntu, and in order of me to install Lin-City, it says I need Physics FS
[19:18] <niknik> I can't find it
[19:18] <DaveEngland> !compit
[19:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:18] <DaveEngland> !compiz
[19:18] <norml_advocate> i want something that i can look up track info on the net
[19:18] <DaveEngland> !compiz
[19:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:18] <ejer> wild_oscar: it is a gnome window basically
[19:18] <norml_advocate> and edit the filename from the program itself
[19:18] <ejer> norml_advocate: amarok does this out of box
[19:18] <aspire> Jouva: it mounted it nicely
[19:19] <wild_oscar> ejer: so a bug there should be reported to gnome?
[19:19] <Jouva> Ok
[19:19] <Docfxit> How can I end two of the three processes called autocutsel?
[19:19] <ejer> wild_oscar: have you searched for the bug
[19:19] <aspire> Jouva: some windows OS disk with vista on it
[19:19] <Jouva> heh ;)
[19:19] <DaveEngland> !nvidia
[19:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:19] <wild_oscar> ejer: I am trying to figuer out where to look for it ;)
[19:19] <EADG> Docfxit: If you want to stop a program use kill pid#. The pid# is listed when you use ps -e :)
[19:19] <norml_advocate> ejer how do you look up info for tracks already on the hdd?
[19:20] <Cpudan80> Hello everyone
[19:20] <Cpudan80> I'm having trouble playing quicktime media in firefox
[19:20] <ejer> norml_advocate: for tagging I use easytag
[19:20] <Cpudan80> It used to work, but it's stopped working now ---- any tips?
[19:20] <IanLiu> !cedega
[19:20] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[19:20] <ejer> wild_oscar: i did not see your bug, but I google it usually, and it leads to launchpad
[19:21] <genius> Please help me with OpenVPN. This is real hell. Can't get it work :(
[19:21] <ejer> wild_oscar: ie https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/66379
[19:21] <Docfxit> EADG » That's perfect . Now I only have one running.
[19:21] <IanLiu> What is the next ubuntu being planed?
[19:21] <ejer> wild_oscar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince
[19:21] <EADG> Docfxit: Linux is fun. Enjoy.
[19:21] <_Casey_> installing virtualbox now
[19:22] <ejer> genius: maybe helps http://www.thebakershome.net/?q=node/56
[19:22] <aspire> Jouva: are you suggesting that there is something wrong with the disk?
[19:22] <wild_oscar> ejer: it's more specific
[19:22] <Jouva> aspire: Nope. Just looking around for answers.
[19:22] <Jouva> aspire: First let's try one of two mounts with the -t
[19:23] <Docfxit> I'm using UltraVNC from XP to connect to X11VNC with autocutsel running. When I copy text I can't get it to paste in XP.
[19:23] <aspire> maybe if I use an option to set it to mount under a different file system
[19:23] <aspire> I have tried iso
[19:23] <aspire> but does not work
[19:23] <genius> ejer, my problem is real problem :) two support companies said that they dno't know what to do
[19:23] <Jouva> aspire: sudo mount -t udf /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[19:24] <Docfxit> Disable clipboard transfer is not checked.
[19:24] <aspire> no medium found
[19:24] <genius> ejer, i want to ensure that it could work on linux at all
[19:24] <_Casey_> ok how do i use virtualbox
[19:24] <ejer> genius: i don't doubt it is a problem, but openvpn works, I use it
[19:24] <Jouva> aspire: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[19:24] <gary_> Evening..
[19:24] <aspire> could it be that /dev is incorrect?
[19:24] <Jouva> wait no medium found? is the disk still in there? ;)
[19:24] <sandos_> very quick question: how do I find a SMP kernel?? Suddenly my machine is non-SMP
[19:24] <sandos_> cant find any -smp packages...
[19:24] <Jouva> MAYBE but if it WAS then nothing would load cause your fstab file would be wrong
[19:25] <fus10n_xx> Are there any motherboards or video cards that are support in ubuntu for both video+sound?
[19:25] <aspire> Jouva: no medium found
[19:25] <wild_oscar> ejer: try to open a pdf in evince, click print, select range: 1 and "even pages"
[19:25] <ejer> genius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager#head-691ab1f191007294d3bf039bd627131628b40410
[19:25] <gary_> Does anyone know the sftp username and password for a Windows Mobile phone?
[19:25] <kostkon> sandos_, the generic kernel is smp, the i386 not, i think
[19:25] <Jouva> aspire: Is there a disk in there? ;)
[19:25] <wild_oscar> ejer: then click print preview
[19:25] <genius> ejer, do you have 5 minutes to test connection to vpn provider? I think, it is configured to work with windows and never tested with linux
[19:25] <sandos_> kostkon: hmm, just installed generic, previous was 386
[19:25] <sandos_> non of them gives me 2 cores :(
[19:25] <AtomicSpark> Does installing Compiz + xserver-xgl disable Direct Rendering? I just did a test and says no. I have the restricted driver installed.
[19:25] <sandos_> oh sorry
[19:25] <sandos_> generic does, apparently
[19:25] <ejer> not really genius sorry, but that is something for provider usually
[19:25] <alumno04> i compiled with make, it seems all ok, but when i do "make install" it says that theres not rules to build ... stop
[19:26] <kostkon> sandos_, so, you are OK then?
[19:26] <Jouva> aspire: No medium found sounds like you took out the other one and forgot to pop the one you're trying to load back in
[19:26] <sandos_> didn two core used to give 2 "cpus" in /proc/cpuinfo ?
[19:26] <sandos_> kostkon: yes.. =)
[19:26] <sandos_> kostkon: now I "just" need to fix my Nvidia driver ;)
[19:26] <kostkon> sandos_, what do you mean by that?
[19:26] <aspire> Jouva: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[19:26] <X-CnupT> hello. In rhythmbox sound in mp3 files very badly, but totem player play mp3 correctly.  Where problem?
[19:26] <aspire> for both the file systems
[19:26] <sandos_> ah, no, sorry, generic gives this, too: WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[19:26] <sandos_> argh
[19:26] <ejer> wild_oscar: 1 is an odd number? hehe
[19:26] <Jouva> aspire: Interesting. What program did you use to burn it?
[19:27] <sandos_> kostkon: well my GLX was not working
[19:27] <wild_oscar> ejer: precisely
[19:27] <aspire> used windows buring tool
[19:27] <adfw> if I wanted to add something to the 'Applications' menu for all users, how would I do that?
[19:27] <Jouva> Hmmm I dunno what Vista burns with
[19:27] <Jouva> Is this a CD-R or CD-RW?
[19:27] <wild_oscar> ejer: but the print preview shows an odd error, instead of pinpointing the mistake
[19:27] <ejer> wild_oscar: so you are asking it to do something impossible
[19:27] <sandos_> I was on a non-packaged nvidia driver previously, because the one in ubuntu did not work with my particular geforce. I will try the ubuntu bundled one now, it should have been updated to something that works.. I hope
[19:27] <kostkon> sandos_, generic should recognize the two cores, so there's a problem somewhere. nevertheless, how did you install the nvidia driver?
[19:27] <ejer> wild_oscar: I would think this would be an evince bug
[19:28] <aspire> Jouva: CD-R
[19:28] <sandos_> kostkon: it was the downloadable shell thing from Nvidia
[19:28] <wild_oscar> ejer: yes, but the error message doesn't help at all
[19:28] <sandos_> thing is, I cant compile the current one, complained about symbol mismatches.
[19:28] <ejer> wild_oscar: so include that in your bug report
[19:28] <Jouva> aspire: Ok. I know CD-RWs can sometimes apparently be a pain in some cases ;) I'm trying to see if there's anything in the forums or elsewhere about it.
[19:28] <_Casey_> so how do i uninstall win4lin + the XP emu i made
[19:28] <sandos_> hence why I started playing around with my kernel headers etc
[19:28] <sandos_> and noticed I was not on a SMP kernel anymore
[19:28] <norml_advocate> ejer is easy tag in amarok?
[19:29] <ejer> norml_advocate: no it is anotehr program
[19:29] <alumno04> i compiled with make, it seems all ok, but when i do "make install" it says that theres not rules to build ... stop
[19:29] <_Casey_> Anyone?
[19:29] <cdm10> I'd like to revoke a signature I've made on someone's public key. I did gpg --edit-key <ID> and then used the command "revsig", and it went through the process of generating a revocation certificate. Then I used the "save" command. However, it doesn't seem to have done anything.
[19:29] <alumno04> what can id o?
[19:29] <kostkon> sandos_, oh, ok. since it seems you want to use the latest version of the driver (and not the older in the repos) then you it would be better to use Envy.
[19:29] <genius> ejer, I've tryed two providers. the same. They use TCP, and when for example i ping with packet more, then 7kb - it just freezes
[19:29] <sandos_> kostkon: is that the fancy nvidia installer thing?
[19:29] <ejer> genius: i would google the error messages
[19:30] <Leechzilla> I get "init_nvclock() failed!" when try using smartdimmer. Is there a way to fix this?
[19:30] <kostkon> sandos_, yes, it will download the driver from nvidia and install it for you
[19:30] <genius> ejer, I really don't know what to do. to change distro, reinstall or it can't even work
[19:30] <sandos_> kostkon: I will try that
[19:30] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/gaming/top-5-amazing-free-games-you-probably-never-played-and-should/
[19:30] <Kitar|st> great post
[19:30] <Kitar|st> hehe
[19:30] <Jouva> Question folks: Editing one's /etc/fstab takes place IMMEDIATELY for things like CDs just like editing a config for PAM does, right? Or do you have to reload anything?
[19:30] <ejer> it works genius
[19:30] <cMad> could anyone help me with Virtual Box please, I'm getting the error "FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted."
[19:30] <kostkon> sandos_, but remember, everytime time there's an kernel update you will lose your desktop
[19:30] <genius> ejer, there is no error messages. I've googled one issue...
[19:30] <ejer> Jouva: no, you would have to issue mount command
[19:30] <sandos_> kostkon: aaah, right
[19:30] <_Casey_> hey kit
[19:30] <_Casey_> ive played all of those :P
[19:31] <Jouva> ejer: Well I mean I don't have to run any program to "reload" the fstab if said volume is not mounted though, right?
[19:31] <fdsajkl> I get a segmentation fault when trying to install ies4linux. Any suggestions?
[19:31] <_Casey_> do i get a cookie
[19:31] <ejer> Jouva: well until you need the info from fstab it is not used
[19:31] <sandos_> Kitar|st: theyre all 3d! bleuh ;)
[19:31] <genius> ejer, i can pay $ for help.
[19:31] <sandos_> go 2d games ;)
[19:31] <kostkon> sandos_, if you want to avoid this you should install the driver from the repos. or before you reboot the pc after the kernel update you have to change the driver in xorg.conf from nvidia to nv or vesa and then put it back
[19:31] <Jouva> ejer: Ok. Thanks :)
[19:31] <sandos_> been playing around with Phun lately
[19:32] <sandos_> kostkon: I will try the ubuntu one I think
[19:32] <_Casey_> yeah i cant uninstall win4lin :/
[19:32] <Kitar|st> sandos_ i like 2d games
[19:32] <norml_advocate> genius i will take your money for help
[19:32] <Kitar|st> but cant find them
[19:32] <mshooshtari> Is there a channel for Hardy?
[19:32] <Kitar|st> you got any
[19:32] <ejer> genius: message me
[19:32] <Kitar|st> hehe
[19:32] <AtomicSpark> haha i ran the glxgears test and xserver crashed -_-
[19:32] <Kitar|st> great
[19:32] <sandos_> AtomicSpark: aha, that is what happened to me today
[19:32] <sandos_> when trying to launch phun
[19:32] <MasterShrek> !hardy | mshooshtari
[19:32] <ubotu> mshooshtari: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:32] <sandos_> glxinfo, glxgears crashed
[19:32] <sandos_> I think I wasnt on accelerated X though...
[19:32] <norml_advocate> atomicspark im back!  i got my computer to login to the terminal only.  booyah
[19:32] <Jouva> aspire: Try editing your /etc/fstab file and changing the "udf,iso9660" part to just say "auto"
[19:32] <kostkon> sandos_, yes, the driver from the repos is "kernel update safe" :) although, it's an not the latest version
[19:33] <cMad> !virtualbox | cMad
[19:33] <Jouva> aspire: And yes, I know there's a "noauto" option there, don't touch that; I don't believe they're the same thing.
[19:33] <mshooshtari> Thanks > MasterShrek
[19:33] <AtomicSpark> sandos_: i was reading about that wine thing for games, and saw that my Direct Rendering = no. Lame? Maybe. I have the restricted driver enabled and compiz works fine for me.
[19:33] <_Casey_> !virtualbox | _Casey_
[19:33] <cMad> lol
[19:33] <AtomicSpark> !kvm
[19:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:33] <SpacePilot> Trying to configure xterm, but it ain't going that well. Where is the fie located that I need to edit?
[19:34] <aspire> Jouva: OK
[19:34] <sandos_> AtomicSpark: ok, Ive never used wine
[19:34] <genius> ejer, did you recieved private?
[19:34] <Jouva> aspire: When you're done that, try mounting it
[19:34] <ejer> no genius
[19:34] <cMad> could anyone help me with Virtual Box please, I'm getting the error "FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted."
[19:35] <AtomicSpark> sandos_: apparently its a opengl driver issue, not wine. i was testing t
[19:35] <ejer> genius: join #geniuschat
[19:35] <aspire> Jouva: trying to unmount it but that is not possible
[19:35] <IndyGunFreak> ejer: lol
[19:35] <AtomicSpark> i do find it funny that ubotu doesnt know anything about kvm when they're integrating it into ubuntu. :P
[19:35] <sandos_> ah ok
[19:36] <sandos_> so can anybody with a AMD X2 check their specific kernel package on 7.04 ?
[19:36] <aspire> Jouva:  this is according to mtab
[19:36] <fus10n_xx> What would be a better choice for Ubuntu? ATI or NVIDIA?
[19:36] <sandos_> I just cannot find a package that will enable my second core... :(
[19:36]  * AtomicSpark hides from fanboy war
[19:36] <Jouva> aspire: Buh?? What's going on?
[19:36] <fus10n_xx> heh
[19:36] <gary_> Does anyone know the sftp username and password for a Windows Mobile phone?
[19:36] <fus10n_xx> i jus want the most compatibility and features
[19:37] <fus10n_xx> root/dottie :)
[19:37] <mshooshtari> Ive had a problem just after the last kernel update, my USB peripherals stopped working.
[19:37] <gary_> fus10n_xx: No kidding? :p
[19:37] <sandos_> ok, it seems generic "is the one"
[19:37] <danand__> sandos_ - you may need to recompile your kernel to enable smp support
[19:37] <luisa> Aahhh *wonders why OpenOffice Writer is set up to open PNG files :)
[19:37] <sandos_> danand__: are you f***ing kidding me ;)
[19:37] <Cpudan80> So anyone know anything about my problem? Embedded quicktime files in firefox = no go?
[19:37] <erUSUL> sandos_: the generic kernel does support smp
[19:37] <fus10n_xx> gary_: I was kiddin. thats for the iphone :)
[19:37] <sandos_> erUSUL: yeah, I notived that just now
[19:37] <SpacePilot> How do I configure xterm under Ubuntu 7.10? Been testing a lot of guides, but no on seem to work?
[19:37] <sandos_> still, it does not work for me :(
[19:37] <Jouva> BTW speaking of VirtualBox and all, can anybody suggest a program other than Wine to run JUST a specific Windows program under Ubuntu? I don't need a full Windows shell/environment, just the ability to run a specific executable.
[19:38] <sandos_> aha, I need to uninstall the 386 kernel most likely =)
[19:38] <AtomicSpark> lols. xterm, startx, x11, xserver. never know what people actually mean.
[19:38] <sandos_> ah yes
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> Jouva: well there's virtualbox, vmware, qemu
[19:38] <danand__> sandos - :D .... either that or look for a kernel with smp in its name that suits your needs
[19:38] <Jonty> I'm trying to get jackd working low-latency using realtime-lsm, but I just can't get it working. Is there a guide somewhere or better way of doing it?
[19:38] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | Jouva
[19:39] <bullgard4> What programs do use the /var/log/udev file?
[19:39] <ubotu> Jouva: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[19:39] <kostkon> sandos_, do you know that you have booted with the generic kernel for sure? or i386 is still used. do a "uname -a" to be sure
[19:39] <docmur> The program bittorrent does it support encrpytion
[19:39] <CrazyPhil_> Hi. How to find network computer in Ubuntu if they don't show in Places, Network?
[19:39] <DRebellion> bullgard4, find out:  lsof /var/log/udev
[19:39] <sandos_> kostkon: no, I was still on 386
[19:39] <Jouva> IndyGunFreak: No, No, and No :) Those emulate a full Operating System. I just need the application.
[19:39] <kostkon> sandos_, bah!
[19:39] <AtomicSpark> Jouva: ignore the kqemu.. it's KVM now.
[19:39] <sandos_> will check grub and reboot soon
[19:39] <erUSUL> bullgard4: dpkg -S /var/log/udev
[19:39] <sandos_> I really dont like that ubuntu doesnt set the newly installed kernel as default or something
[19:39] <erUSUL> Jouva: wine
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> Jouva: well, then the only other thing than Wine, that I know of, is not free, is Crossover Office
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: he said other than wine
[19:40] <Jouva> erUSUL: My original qualifier included !wine :)
[19:40] <DRebellion> CrazyPhil_, i would recommend nmap. install it from the repos. then,  sudo nmap -v -v -sP 192.168.1.1-254 (change the ip for your network)
[19:40] <erUSUL> Jouva: the other two crossover and cedega are wine forks so they are only marginally better if any and semi-closed source
[19:40] <CrazyPhil_> ok, I'll look for that thx
[19:40] <Jouva> Ahhh, suck.
[19:41] <bartmon> Hi! Can someone tell me how to restart fuse via bash? I forgot where the control script is
[19:41] <Jouva> Well Cedega is "claiming" to let you play games easily blah blah blah
[19:41] <bruenig> fuse? the kernel module?
[19:41] <erUSUL> Jouva: go ahead and buy it ;)
[19:41] <Jouva> bartmon: You mean /etc/init.d/ ?
[19:41] <AlexE2> I need help, bad.
[19:42] <Leechzilla> Before I compile something from source, should I uninstall the one from the repositories first, or will it just update it?
[19:42] <bartmon> bruenig: the userspace driver for filesystems
[19:42] <aspire> Jouva: is there any chance that I will be able to get through to this CD?
[19:42] <bartmon> Jouva: oh :9
[19:42] <punQ-arT> hey i upgraded my ubuntu gusty to hardy but my b43 driver didn't work:(
[19:42] <DRebellion> Leechzilla, why would you want to compile from source when there's a package in the repos?
[19:42] <root-----> Hi, i have a server and 30 clients. (10 windows 20 linux.) i want to pxe boot them all. making linux as my server. 2. i want to make a user account (in all those 30 machines) stop or screen lock after every 30 minuts (runing apps should not be closed) the user just have to enter password again. 3.for every such event of unlocking screen and giving pwd.(i 'guess' thats logging in?) i get stats on server.. possible? do i need any thing else. like ldap ? a
[19:42] <bruenig> bartmon: the kernel module sounds like
[19:42] <bruenig> bartmon: rmmod fuse; modprobe fuse
[19:42] <DRebellion> punQ-arT, /join #hardy+1
[19:42] <AlexE2> I partitioned my drive and began to install a windows crack on the new partition, but it asks me for a key.  I have the key on my ubuntu partition, but I don't know how to get to it!  Right now I'm running off the live cd.
[19:42] <DRebellion> punQ-arT, /join #ubuntu+1
[19:42] <root-----> 3.for every such event of unlocking screen and giving pwd.(i 'guess' thats logging in?) i get stats on server.. possible? do i need any thing else. like ldap ? any suggestions?I
[19:42] <aman> can anyone tell me how can i login remotely in ubuntu using putty
[19:42] <Leechzilla> DRebellion, because it doesn't work
[19:43] <erUSUL> AlexE2: use a liveCD
[19:43] <AlexE2> erUSUL, I am, but I don't know how to get to the tomboy note that the key is saved on.
[19:43] <DRebellion> Leechzilla, we need more information than "doesn't work"
[19:43] <Jouva> aspire: You said you couldn't unmount it??
[19:43] <AlexE2> erUSUL, When I open tomboy notes, its not there
[19:43] <Leechzilla> DRebellion, I type smartdimmer -g and it says init_nvclock() failed
[19:44] <aspire> Jouva:  and I cant, nor can I mount it
[19:44] <bartmon> bruenig: Thanks. I umounted the FSs which use fuse but the module is still in use and i can't rmmod it. Got any ideas?
[19:45] <DRebellion> Leechzilla, i seriously doubt building from source will help you. it will probably cause even more headaches.
[19:45] <Jouva> This amuses me for some reason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56777/
[19:45] <aman> can anyone tell me how can i login remotely in ubuntu using putty????
[19:45] <docmur> The program bittorrent does it support encrpytion
[19:45] <DVDmannen> Hi there! Why can't I rip a dvd-movie? (Make an .iso)
[19:45] <DRebellion> aman, install openssh-server on ubuntu
[19:45] <AlexE2> I can't access my ubuntu partition, can someone help?
[19:45]  * root----- waits for suggestiosn
[19:45] <bullgard4> DRebellion: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/42664/ This does not answer the question which I put. I asked in general. I did not ask what programs are useing this file at the moment.
[19:45] <Leechzilla> DRebellion: It says on launchpad that it does. So should I remove the one from the repo or not?
[19:45] <AtomicSpark> DVDmannen: because that's illegal
[19:45] <AlexE2> How do I access a tomboy note off the liveCD?
[19:45] <bartmon> aman: install , configure and run sshd on ubuntu locally first
[19:45] <DRebellion> docmur, 1) bittorrent is a protocol 2) a good client will support encryption
[19:45] <katakaio> docmur: No, you'll need a torrent client like Azureus or Deluge
[19:46] <DVDmannen> AtomicSpark, ok.
[19:46] <docmur> I know I'm talking about the client bit torrnet
[19:46] <katakaio> Ha, you beat me to it DRebellion
[19:46] <docmur> are either of those text based
[19:46] <docmur> I need it for my server
[19:46] <DRebellion> Leechzilla, fair enough. remove the one from the repo before building from source
[19:46] <aman> DRebellion: on which machine ? mine?
[19:46] <DVDmannen> AtomicSpark, Do you know where I can look for a guide that will help me to do that?
[19:47] <katakaio> docmur: No, I believe they are both graphical
[19:47] <aman> DRebellion: actually i want my friend to logon to my computer
[19:47] <DRebellion> aman, hang on. do you want to login to your ubuntu machine or from your ubuntu machine?
[19:47] <Jouva> aspire: So the CD is stuck in there right now? Paste the /etc/fstab again onto the paste site
[19:47] <brobostigon> trnsmission is a good bittorrent client aswell
[19:47] <DRebellion> aman, okay. install openssh-server on your ubuntu machine
[19:47] <ali_> sa avait coupé
[19:47] <aman> DRebellion: ok
[19:47] <aspire> Jouva: never mind
[19:47] <DRebellion> !fr | ali_
[19:47] <ubotu> ali_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:47] <ali_> j'essaie d'utiliser wifi radar
[19:47] <Leechzilla> DRebellion: It says it'll remove acpi-support, powermanagement-interface, ubuntu-desktop. Can't I compile it without removing the installed package?
[19:47] <ali_> sa a l'air mieu
[19:47] <Jouva> aspire: What now? :)
[19:47] <aspire> OK
[19:48] <Pici> !fr | ali_
[19:48] <ubotu> ali_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:48] <ali_> sorry
[19:48] <DRebellion> Leechzilla, you can, but they may conflict. I don't know. But you really don't want to remove those abovementioned packages.
[19:48] <norml_advocat1> is there a way to install software that is made for windows ?
[19:48] <_Casey_> norm
[19:48] <_Casey_> try wine
[19:48] <_Casey_> WINE
[19:48] <_Casey_> or virtualbox
[19:48] <AtomicSpark> DVDmannen: I googled and found this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_rip_a_DVD_video try installing/using that program.
[19:48] <DRebellion> !virtualisers | norml_advocat1
[19:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualisers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:48] <DRebellion> !virtualisation | norml_advocat1
[19:48] <ubotu> norml_advocat1: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[19:48] <_Casey_> !QEmu
[19:49] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[19:49] <norml_advocat1> !wine
[19:49] <aspire> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56778/
[19:49] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:49] <DVDmannen> AtomicSpark, I will do that, thank you very much for you kind help.
[19:49] <WARRIOR> hello friends
[19:49] <aspire> Jouva: is that right?
[19:49] <Jouva> aman: Also make sure that if you are behind a firewall/router and that your friend is not on your local network that your friend can connect to port 22 on your computer
[19:49] <dho_ragus> ubuntu-specific networking question here.....
[19:49] <dho_ragus> i'm running ubuntu 7 in a VM.  i copied it, now the network won't come up.
[19:49] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat1: use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[19:49] <Jouva> aspire: Oh! No no you heard the opposite of what I wanted :) I'm sorry :)
[19:50] <aman> Jouva: he is not on LAN
[19:50] <dho_ragus> fixes tell me to edit the persistent-rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d, except that file doesn't exist.
[19:50] <bruenig> dho_ragus: what happens when you try to get it up using the command line
[19:50] <WARRIOR> somebody can explain to me how can i intall the prozilla 2.0.4?
[19:50] <AtomicSpark> norml_advocat1: it will be fully integrated in the next release of ubuntu.
[19:50] <tekhedz> how can I tell grep to search a manual for an option: e.g. man ssh | grep -x
[19:50] <dho_ragus> bruenig: device not found
[19:50] <bullgard4> erUSUL: "detlef@MD97600:~$ LANG=C dpkg -S /var/log/udev; dpkg: /var/log/udev not found."
[19:50] <dho_ragus> bruenig: if i restart networking, same thing.
[19:50] <Jouva> aspire: The last line should say /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   auto user,noauto,exec 0       0
[19:50] <aspire> Jouva:  what do you mean?
[19:50] <tekhedz> i've tried man ssh | grep '-x' even double quotes
[19:51] <tekhedz> it seems the dash bothers grep
[19:51] <aspire> Jouva: does it mater whether it executes auto or not
[19:51] <Jouva> aspire: You removed the "noauto" and didn't add the "auto". I was saying change those two to "auto" but don't touch the "noauto"
[19:51] <erUSUL> bullgard4: :| then dunno
[19:52] <aspire> Jouva: OK it is added
[19:52] <Jouva> aspire: noauto I believe in this case means don't automatically mount (GNOME has other programs working in the background that handle that). So you want THAT in there. The auto I mentioned is FS detection
[19:52] <dho_ragus> tekhedz: man ssh | grep "\-x"
[19:52] <Jouva> aspire: Now try the mount
[19:52] <tekhedz> dho_ragus: thank you very much
[19:52] <EADG> tekhedz: You want to use Amorak to acces a remote music dir via ssh?
[19:53] <dho_ragus> tekhedz: grep -C# for context, very handy for man stuff.
[19:53] <aspire> Same problem, and starts spinning very hard
[19:53] <dho_ragus> tekhedz: or just -A# for stuff after it.
[19:53] <Jouva> aspire: BTW next time you're pasting a config file, use cat and not nano, cause otherwise the ends of lines get cut off and replaced with $ :)
[19:53] <tekhedz> EADG: no, but thanks
[19:53] <MrRoland> Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG , will ybuntu see it on install ?
[19:53] <dho_ragus> tekhedz: eg: man ssh | grep -A5 "\-D"
[19:53] <aspire> using pico
[19:54] <Jouva> nano, pico, same idea :)
[19:54] <niknik> How do I install physics FS?
[19:54] <EADG> tekhedz: sorry, wrong person..
[19:54] <aspire> Jouva: OK
[19:54] <Jouva> nano's a pico clone anyways
[19:54] <dho_ragus> so, how do i get ubuntu to regenerate the udev rules?
[19:54] <tekhedz> dho_ragus: so the # = number of lines after search expressuon right?
[19:54] <patogen> What memory demanding software exists for linux?
[19:55] <dho_ragus> tekhedz: yeah, # is the number of lines to show.
[19:55] <dho_ragus> tekhedz: -A is after, -B is before, -C is context (before and after)
[19:56] <tekhedz> dho_ragus: ooOOoo very neat, I owe you an internet for this one
[19:56] <dho_ragus> patogen: java?
[19:56] <brobostigon> patogen: openoffice, kde, gnome,flash
[19:56] <bartmon> Hey, how can I mount filesystems with fuse with a non-root user?
[19:56] <patogen> dho_ragus: I'm allergic to java.
[19:56] <aoupi> tekhedz: you know you can use / to seacrh in man right?
[19:56] <tekhedz> aoupi: yes, but this is quicker
[19:56] <Jouva> aspire: So it still says something about the bad superblock ?
[19:56] <SpacePilot> Can anyone just tell me how to configure xterm? Where should I put the Xdefault file? Is there any other file? Been reading my eyes red on the forums, and nothing works.
[19:56] <aspire> yes Jouva, still the same error
[19:56] <tekhedz> aoupi: /searchexpression then ender and n for text or N for back
[19:57] <tekhedz> next*
[19:57] <patogen> brobostigon: None of them are *that* demanding. I wanna try to see what happens when I fill up my ram ... right now I'm using ~300MB of 2000MB.
[19:57] <aoupi> tekhedz: indeed it is. oh and -- usualy means "don't look for more arguments", soo grep -C# -- -x would work
[19:57] <brobostigon> patogen: write a python script that writes loads to memory??
[19:57] <patogen> brobostigon: I don't know python.
[19:57] <tekhedz> aoupi: indeed it does, thanks as well
[19:58] <aspire> he does any one know about some sophisticated buring tool for linux that would allow me to see the contents of this disk?
[19:58] <tekhedz> aoupi: two dashes is easier to remember and type
[19:58] <bartmon> Hey, how can I mount filesystems with fuse with a non-root user?
[19:58] <aoupi> bartmon: put them in the fuse group
[19:58] <mundungus> bartmon
[19:58] <brobostigon> patogen: make a ram disk, and then fill it with big empty files
[19:58] <mundungus> dyu now the root pwd?u can sudo
[19:59] <_Casey_> sudo passwd ;x
[19:59] <erUSUL> SpacePilot:  .Xdefault has to be in home (note the dot)
[19:59] <erUSUL> !root | _Casey_
[19:59] <ubotu> _Casey_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:59] <erUSUL> !rootpass
[19:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootpass - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:59] <dho_ragus> !udev
[19:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:59] <dho_ragus> !network
[19:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:59] <swirv> I am installing NoCatSplash from source and it is complaining that glib1.2 is not installed, however, I have installed via apt the glib-1.2 package.
[19:59] <erUSUL> _Casey_: do not advice enabling the root pass here
[20:00] <Casey> GOD
[20:00] <_Casey_> why, i use it lawl
[20:00] <Casey> QUIT DAT
[20:00] <Pici> !noroot | _Casey_
[20:00] <ubotu> _Casey_: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[20:00] <Casey> HIGHLIGHTS = ANNOYING
[20:00] <bartmon> aoupi: i did that. But i have to stop/start fuse for it to know which users are in the group fuse. I don't want to restart my machine
[20:00] <moise7000> !sense of life
[20:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sense of life - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:00] <aoupi> bartmon: System->Users and Groups  then select the user and check fuse in User Settings
[20:00] <Pici> Casey: calm down.
[20:00] <erUSUL> Pici: i was struggling to find the right factoid....XD
[20:00] <aoupi> bartmon: yea, you have to log out and log back in for the group change to take effect
[20:00] <jac0b|w> does screenlets need compiz?
[20:00] <_Casey_> dude how would you have problems
[20:01] <norml_advocat1> is there a way to backup my ubuntu plus all my packages/apps.?  and also burn them to cds?
[20:01] <jpatrick> Casey: please take this elsewhere (in private with him)
[20:01] <_Casey_> please do not advise me to go private.
[20:01] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[20:01] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[20:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:01] <niknik> I'm sorry to keep asking this, but I really have no idea.  How do I get Physics FS?  I know NOTHING about building from source
[20:01] <IndyGunFreak> _Casey_: you're gonna make a lot of friends here, i can tell.
[20:02] <_Casey_> I noticed.
[20:02] <Pici> niknik: No one knows what that is, you need to explain what exactly you want to do.
[20:02] <PriceChild> !offtopic | IndyGunFreak _Casey_
[20:02] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak _Casey_: please see above
[20:02] <PriceChild> niknik, Do you mean physx?
[20:02] <_Casey_> Thats my main concern at this point.
[20:02] <Casey> facepalm
[20:02] <niknik> I think so
[20:02] <PriceChild> niknik, could you clarify for us then please? give us links etc. ?
[20:03] <swirv> Any help with the glib-1.2 problem?
[20:03] <dho_ragus> soooo, if my system doesn't see the network card, how do i fix that?
[20:03] <jac0b|w> are desklets and screelets the same? such as are their applets interchangable
[20:03] <leeping2007> Hi there, I'm trying to create a point-to-point vpn with two clients and one server.  Is it possible to do this?
[20:03] <Pici> jac0b|w: No, they are different programs.
[20:03] <sevensevens> Quick question - does anyone have/know of a good USB headset that works with Gutsy (preferably out of the box)
[20:03] <niknik> The error message says 'Error: Could not find 'PhysicsFS'.  Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 7.10 (apt-get) to install a packge with a similar name to 'physfs'
[20:03] <Pici> jac0b|w: screenlets require a composite desktop, i.e: compiz
[20:03] <leeping2007> There's a "Static Key Mini-HOWTO" on the OpenVPN website but it says I can only have one client with one server
[20:04] <clustermagnet> gents... question about ubuntu installer
[20:04] <moise7000> leeping2007: It's the goal of a VPN ...
[20:04] <jac0b|w> which would be the recommended one screenlets of desklets?
[20:04] <clustermagnet> i am a mandriva user... willing to switch to ubuntu to see how things go
[20:04] <Jouva> aspire: So it no longer says "udf,iso9660" and has auto instead, right?
[20:04] <kostkon> jac0b|w, screenlets
[20:04] <clustermagnet> does the ubuntu installer, 7.1 pick up lvm volumes right off the getgo?
[20:04] <Jouva> ...But then again you specified the file system type
[20:04] <MsK`> hi
[20:04] <jac0b|w> pici: thanks
[20:05] <leeping2007> moise7000, what do you mean?  What's the goal of a VPN?
[20:05] <MsK`> when I type a word in firefox's url bar, it performs a google "i'm feeling lucky" search, which is good, but it doesn't works with more words. How can I fix that ?
[20:05] <jac0b|w> kostkon: thanks
[20:05] <sevensevens> VPN lets you connect to a windows virtual private network (and linux private networks)
[20:05] <niknik> http://icculus.org/physfs/
[20:05] <aoupi> clustermagnet: i _think_ the alternate install CD does, not sure about the normal one
[20:06] <jac0b|w> kostkon: if I have compiz installed do I have it running to use screenlets
[20:06] <norml_advocat1>  is there a way to backup my ubuntu plus all my packages/apps.?  and also burn them to cds?
[20:06] <norml_advocat1>  is there a way to backup my ubuntu plus all my packages/apps.?  and also burn them to cds?
[20:06] <aspire> Jouva: it has auto
[20:06] <PriceChild> !clone | norml_advocat1
[20:06] <leeping2007> sevensevens, here's what I have - three Beowulf clusters with different IP addresses; I would like them all to appear on the LAN  when I connect to the "head" cluster
[20:06] <hennessy> hi
[20:06] <clustermagnet> aoupi: whats the diff between alternate and main cd image? :)
[20:06] <PriceChild> !aptoncd | norml_advocat1
[20:06] <clustermagnet> aoupi: thank you sir
[20:06] <norml_advocat1> !clone
[20:06] <ubotu> norml_advocat1: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[20:06] <ubotu> norml_advocat1: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[20:06] <kostkon> jac0b|w, yes, you 'll have to have compiz running otherwise the screenlets will appear "funny" or maybe even not run at all
[20:07] <two_bits> what does irqfixup do?
[20:07] <two_bits> as a boot parameter?
[20:07] <Jouva> sevensevens: He was complaining that the OpenVPN website says you can only have one client and one server, not multiple clients and one server
[20:07] <aspire> Jouva: it says that it is the wrong filesystem
[20:07] <cthom06> i had a quick question, i can see my wireless card in my devices and with ndiswrapper -l, but for some reason wlan0 wont show up in if or iwconfig
[20:07] <aoupi> clustermagnet: text-based install, no live-cd, support for more stuff
[20:07] <clustermagnet> aoupi: high five, thanks
[20:07] <Jouva> aspire: try just "udf"
[20:07] <clustermagnet> aoupi: would it have compiz-fusion?
[20:07] <_Casey_> try ifconfig -a
[20:07] <_Casey_> @ cth
[20:07] <Jouva> So your line should be: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf user,noauto,exec 0       0
[20:08] <aoupi> clustermagnet: yea, it's just the install method that differs
[20:08] <sevensevens> I'm looking for USB headphones - can anyone recommend a good one
[20:08] <blaauw> goodevening,
[20:08] <jac0b|w> kostkan: thanks for the help
[20:08] <_Casey_> usb headphones?
[20:08] <clustermagnet> aoupi: rock on... THANK YOU! :)
[20:08] <GodsDead> hey all
[20:08] <cthom06> _Casey_: i only get eth0 eth0:avah and lo
[20:08] <aoupi> clustermagnet: you're welcome :)
[20:08] <clustermagnet> aoupi: wish me luck :)
[20:08] <jac0b|w> has anyone had the "too many files open" error
[20:09] <norml_advocat1> pricechild thanks
[20:09] <cthom06> but ndiswrapper -l shows the device as present
[20:09] <_Casey_> you are looking for wlan0 cthom06?
[20:09] <aoupi> clustermagnet: good luck, and may tux be with you
[20:09] <cthom06> _Casey_: thats the alias ndiswrapper uses i believe
[20:09] <sevensevens> ALSA is having issues turning off my speakers when I use normal headphones, so I'm looking for a good pair of USB headphones
[20:09] <aspire> Jouva: I have tried that and it gives me the same problem
[20:09] <blaauw> anybody know ow to solve a problem with eclipse. I use ubuntu 7.10 but i am not able to get the PHP plugin to work. Got the eclipse All-in-one package from zend
[20:09] <_Casey_> yes i know it is
[20:09] <_Casey_> eth01 joined, woah
[20:10] <eth01> hmm?
[20:10] <eth01> ( hey at least i'm being noticed haha )
[20:10] <_Casey_> Indeed.
[20:11] <sevensevens> Anyone know of a good pair of USB headphones that work in ubuntu
[20:11] <prince_jammys> !hardware | sevensevens
[20:11] <ubotu> sevensevens: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:11] <_Casey_> Hmmm
[20:11] <cthom06> and my /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper contains 'alias wlan0 ndiswrapper' but modprobe -v ndiswrapper  returns nothing
[20:11] <_Casey_> I just use normal headphones seven
[20:11] <gatestone> Has anyone expereinced this: my machine boots 2 minutes faster if I press Alt-F1 in the boot process, to see the console. Otherwise I stare at the blank screen for 2 minutes before X kicks in. If I hit Alt-F1, then X starts much sooner...?
[20:12] <prince_jammys> gatestone: laptop?
[20:12] <gatestone> yes
[20:12] <_Casey_> thats weird gatestone, my ubuntu takes like 5 minutes to boot up now :/
[20:12] <Jouva> aspire: I really don't know What to tell you then. Put it back to how it was and if you can maybe look into another burning tool and reburn the CD?
[20:12] <prince_jammys> gatestone: do you see the splash screen?
[20:12] <Jouva> aspire: Somebody else may have better insight but I sure don't
[20:12] <gatestone> prince_jammys, no splash here
[20:12] <Haz> i've got a full LAMP installation running by using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP -- what's the easiest way to implement an FTP server into this installation?
[20:12] <geekahedron> i'm trying to install wine for wow as described in https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/15544, but when running `patch -p1 < wine-wow-fixes.patch` i'm getting the error "can't find file to patch at input line 5"
[20:13] <Haz> correction, *best* way :P
[20:13] <_Casey_> geek
[20:13] <leeping2007> Is "networkmanager" the same as network-admin?
[20:13] <gatestone> prince_jammys, the first thing I see is Gdm, if I don't press Alt-F1
[20:13] <_Casey_> have you installed WoW?
[20:13] <ejer> Haz: you could just use sftp which is part of ssh
[20:13] <prince_jammys> gatestone: see if this applies: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[20:13] <geekahedron> the line in question is "@@ -183,7 +183,26 @@"
[20:13] <aspire> Jouva: OK no problem, if anyone had a solution I'm sure they would have suggested
[20:13] <_Casey_> If i'm correct you just install it like any other windows program
[20:13] <aman> DRebellion: bartmon: Jouva: thank you ,thank a lot..
[20:14] <Pullus313> help
[20:14] <MasterShrek> !help | Pullus313
[20:14] <ubotu> Pullus313: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:14] <jac0b|w> sevensevens: why don't you just use a regular pair of headphones and connect it to your soundcard
[20:14] <prince_jammys> !helpme | Pullus313
[20:14] <ubotu> Pullus313: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[20:14] <IndyGunFreak> aspire: whats the problem
[20:14] <bartmon> fuc******************
[20:14] <Haz> ejer: can this method be used by normal FTP clients and the like?
[20:14] <Pici> !language | bartmon
[20:14] <ubotu> bartmon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:14] <cthom06> actually with WoW if u already have it installed on a windows machine, just copy the folder and run wow.exe in wine, though you'll prolly wanna change it to run in opengl
[20:14] <ejer> Haz: if they support sftp which many/most do... ie: filezilla
[20:14] <leninIdebian> does anyone know how to force a resolution to a screen
[20:14] <SpacePilot> Anyone know why ubuntu decides to show the memory usage for 6 processes to be "17179869180.0 GB"?
[20:14] <Haz> ^^ k
[20:15] <_Casey_> thats alot of gigs SpacePilot, can i have your computer?
[20:15] <bartmon> Pici: yeah, you'd do the same when you'd have realised you just removed your user from all the groups
[20:15] <leninIdebian> its not a default value for the screen and just for testing
[20:15] <ejer> SpacePilot: that is wicked ram!
[20:15] <Pici> bartmon: 'oops'
[20:15] <geekahedron> i do have WoW installed on the windows partition
[20:15] <SpacePilot> Yeah, I know.
[20:15] <_Casey_> Are you working for the CIA SpacePilot
[20:15] <prince_jammys> lol
[20:15] <ejer> SpacePilot: paste that?
[20:15] <_Casey_> that computer is wicked
[20:16] <bartmon> Pici: perhaps after 5 minutes when tempers cool that would be the actual respnse
[20:16] <SpacePilot> Paste what?
[20:16] <prince_jammys> deep blue
[20:16] <gatestone> prince_jammys, I will look at that
[20:16] <ejer> SpacePilot: the output that makes you see that
[20:16] <_Casey_> do a pastebin of what you saw SpacePilot
[20:16] <prince_jammys> gatestone: yeah check it out, likely applies to you
[20:16] <SpacePilot> I see it in system manager. Want a screenshot?
[20:16] <_Casey_> sure
[20:16] <_Casey_> uplaod to like tinypic
[20:16] <norml_advocat1> what command do i use to remove all things kde?
[20:16] <scott_> have they found a driver to work with lexmark x5470
[20:16] <prince_jammys> booo
[20:16] <ejer> SpacePilot: try using free -m on cli to compare
[20:17] <VSpike> What can I use to do audio transcoding?  I need to convert wma to ogg, but I don't mind going via wav.  And ffmpeg is no good, it won't read the files.
[20:17] <ejer> norml_advocat1: you could do a search in synaptic for kde...
[20:17] <aspire> IndyGunFreak: I have this disk that I burned with windows burning tool that does not mount with my ubuntu system
[20:17] <ejer> VSpike: wma is not easy to convert
[20:17] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: *maybe* sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[20:17] <gatestone> prince_jammys, but the vga values in the table do not have my 1280x800
[20:17] <VSpike> ejer: so I'm finding out :)
[20:17] <SpacePilot> What command is used in a terminal to get the same result as the system monitor?
[20:18] <Pici> bartmon: Try booting from the LiveCD and modifying your /etc/group file
[20:18] <IndyGunFreak> aspire: are you sure the disk is good?
[20:18] <norml_advocat1> ejer i have alot of extra kde stuff like games and apps too.  I want to get rid of all of it
[20:18] <leninIdebian> (norml_advocat1: *maybe* sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop --purge
[20:18] <ejer> VSpike: ffmpeg will do it, or mplayer, unless it is encoded
[20:18] <norml_advocat1> leninldebian will that rid everything kde?
[20:18] <VSpike> ejer: my amarok plays them OK.  Not sure if I can use whatever backend it uses for transcoding?
[20:18] <aspire> yes the disk is fine, not a scratch to it
[20:18] <leninIdebian> (norml_advocat1: and delete afterwards ~/.kde
[20:18] <ejer> VSpike: can you play it in mplayer
[20:18] <VSpike> ejer: ffmpeg will not accept the files
[20:18] <IndyGunFreak> don't know why that would be.
[20:18] <prince_jammys> gatestone: mmmm someone else had that problem, dont remember how they solved it.  try a different res, maybe
[20:18] <leninIdebian> (norml_advocat1: most of it
[20:18] <norml_advocat1> leninldebian will you explain that last commaND?
[20:18] <VSpike> ejer: someone raised a bug for me on it in fact
[20:19] <ejer> well, ffmpeg powers most of the transcoders
[20:19] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: removes settings too
[20:19] <leninIdebian> (norml_advocat1: and delete /home/$USER/.kde
[20:19] <jawee> Has anyone come across anything similar to Wakoopa for Linux? They say a Linux version is coming in the future, but I wanted to know if anything exists now, because it seems very interesting.
[20:19] <norml_advocat1> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop --purge AND DELETE /HOME/$USER/.KDE?
[20:19] <bartmon> !groups
[20:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:19] <prince_jammys> you can pput --purge after the package name?
[20:19] <VSpike> ejer: yeah mplayer plays it.  Can I use that somehow?
[20:19] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: rm -r .kde
[20:20] <leninIdebian> (norml_advocat1: yes, but i don't trust it too much
[20:20] <ejer> VSpike: mplayer -dumpaudio i think it is
[20:20] <Cpudan80> prince_jammys: should use -f there
[20:20] <ph0rensic> prince_jammys, I always put it before
[20:20] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys rm -r .kde will remove all kde stuff?
[20:20] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: or rather rm -r ~/.kde
[20:20] <`twek> Ubuntu: You get what you paid for. Who agrees?
[20:20] <`twek> jawee `twek crisco ph0rensic sjefen6 Odd-rationale acrid alfermp brownan VSpike tcm Ruens norml_advocat1 scott_ leninIdebian Flare183 freeman163 SpacePilot Lumpi peter78 bartmon axel-fr HetaUma Haz MasterShrek albabe_ barzilouik Casey duns_s_ syntaxerror55 sfleury m3gach33zy eth01 subzero2000 geekahedron xjonex Gerrath GodsDead eMaX_ anthony nightmare_ Latty arreis bluefox83 spine55 bruenig hennessy two_bits DGtlRif1 ziro tobias__ cosmodad
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[20:20] <prince_jammys> Cpudan80: why?
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[20:20] <nickrud> norml_advocat1: removing kubuntu-desktop doesn't get rid of all of kde; didn't I give you a link for that last night? (removing ~/.kde will remove all your personal kde stuff)
[20:20] <Daviey> !ops
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[20:20] <FloodBot2> `twek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <bluefox83> O.o
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[20:21] <prince_jammys> !ops
[20:21] <XiXaQ> ?
[20:21] <milardovich> wtf
[20:21] <agra> thanks
[20:21] <ejer> VSpike:   Dumps raw compressed audio stream to ./stream.dump (useful with MPEG/AC-3, in most other cases the resulting file will not be playable). If you give more than one of −dumpaudio, −dumpvideo, −dumpstream on the command line only the last one will work.
[20:21] <Cpudan80> prince_jammys: you really want it gone
[20:21] <Semloh> TY floodbot
[20:21] <p33l3> Ubuntu: You get what you paid for. Who agrees?
[20:21] <joakim2> spam, `twek
[20:21] <syntaxerror55> ...
[20:21] <`twek> Ajedrez jmesquita ajousselin Ljorring _elemental juliank nclx xukun niknik The_Machine pjotr BernardB mxin jetscreamer danisahne riaal colinma_ corpse_ lagann_ TelnetManta jerbear neville BenC lego1974 MatBoy johndbritton scresawn prophY magnetron InspectorCluseau aaroncampbell tuna-fish werdan7 LjL-Temp andatche voici eMxyzptlk stefano TeTeT zelrikriando mazeman b0ha Aeon Hestv4 jpatrick Alex vwbusguy melter Al2O3_ Trae switch__ pecisk joseee1985
[20:21] <norml_advocat1> nickrud oh yeah
[20:21] <norml_advocat1> sorry
[20:21] <mag_mor> o.O
[20:21] <_Casey_> wtf twek
[20:21] <ipx> Idiot
[20:21] <eth01> ?
[20:21] <ejer> but that is rough way to do it VSpike
[20:21] <axel-fr> stupidiot
[20:21] <XiXaQ> language...
[20:21] <eth01> uhuh
[20:21] <finalbeta> That takes me back to when I was 11 years old.
[20:21] <mshooshtari> Is there anybody that can help with USB and 2.6 kernel?
[20:21] <ph0rensic> Wow so this channel has gone to hell this morning i guess
[20:21] <VSpike> ejer: yeah I just read that, but it does say that the result will not be playable
[20:21] <BernardB> :/
[20:22] <BernardB> Who called me?
[20:22] <prince_jammys> Cpudan80: it should go without -f , no?  -f just forces and doesnt prompt, right?
[20:22] <PriceChild> !don't feed the troll
[20:22] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[20:22] <linxeh> axel-fr: using that word as an insult is highly offensive
[20:22] <Flare183> yeah
[20:22] <Jouva> BernardB: somebody spammed the channel with /names
[20:22] <luisa> How do I... make compiz (or any other program) launch when I log in?
[20:22] <Odd-rationale> BernardB: a troll...
[20:22] <Cpudan80> prince_jammys: Errors out if the file is in use
[20:22] <Ayabara> what is aclocal, and why doesn't my ubuntu have it
[20:22] <BernardB> Okay >,>
[20:22] <prince_jammys> Cpudan80: ah
[20:22] <Cpudan80> prince_jammys: -f will kill it for sure
[20:22] <prince_jammys> Cpudan80: gotcha now
[20:22] <ejer> VSpike: mencoder -oac
[20:23] <axel-fr> linxeh, couldn't think better
[20:23] <VSpike> ejer: ahhh cool thanks!!
[20:23] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: so there you have it:::    rm -rf ~/.kde  , though --purge may have the same effect (not sure)
[20:23] <linxeh> axel-fr: its like calling him a cretin or a spastic or something. offensive for anyone that has family that suffer from those conditions
[20:23] <zelrikriando> why the hell I got highlighted
[20:23] <frold> we all did!
[20:23] <ph0rensic> zelrikriando, What up f00000000
[20:23] <crisco> who the fuck highlighted me
[20:24] <Cpudan80> crisco: spammer
[20:24] <ph0rensic> zelrikriando, some dick that highlighted everyone
[20:24] <Jouva> zelrikriando, crisco: spammer/troll that pastes /names
[20:24] <axel-fr> linxeh, i didnt know it was an actual word
[20:24] <eth01> language please.
[20:24] <crisco> why dont the ops do somthing. this happenes every wek
[20:24] <zelrikriando> ph0rensic: not much...working on some crap assignement
[20:24] <crisco> unbelievable
[20:24] <Survivorman> Is there a difference between mozilla-mplayer and mplayerplug-in? Which should I use?
[20:24] <SpacePilot> For those who wanted to see the memory usage issue I had. Here is a link http://i32.tinypic.com/2pob42s.png
[20:24] <ph0rensic> zelrikriando, ahh fun!
[20:24] <Odd-rationale> crisco: They just banned him/her
[20:24] <bartmon> Hey. Anyone know of a good site which explains specific user groups?
[20:24] <geekahedron> trying to install wine:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56781/
[20:24] <eth01> crisco, highlighted? you mean CTCP?
[20:24] <mai> hi
[20:25] <fuffwork> when i select restart from my shutdown menu in ubuntu, it looks like it's shutting down for a bit, and then the screen flashes purple or green, and then goes black. My pc speaker then makes a long beep, and the screen stays black and doesn't startup. To get around it, I have to cut the power to the computer, and then turn the power back on and start it up - any idea what might cause this?
[20:25] <ph0rensic> bartmon, what do you want to know about user groups? As in permissions in the filesystem?
[20:25] <ZeroA4> crisco, you get highlighted once a week and think we should call the (c)ops ?
[20:25] <mshooshtari> qemu + usb = :P
[20:25] <axel-fr> linxeh, though i didnt invent it http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stupidiot&defid=104940
[20:25] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys im gonna make a pastebin with a HUGE line of code it seems to be an extremely complete way to remove stuff.  But I think it will get rid of too much, like my ubuntu studio, and maybe my mp3/divx stuff I DUNNO
[20:25] <mai> i am trying to connect my nokia via blutouth  ,,, any help
[20:25] <norml_advocat1> !pastebin
[20:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:25] <Jouva> eth01: No the feature in clients that beeps and colorizes lines with your name in it
[20:25] <eth01> axel-fr, thats of no help whatsoever, leave it out.
[20:25] <Cpudan80> !paste | norml_advocat1
[20:25] <ubotu> norml_advocat1: please see above
[20:25] <bartmon> ph0rensic: i want to know what memberhip in specific groups, e.g. in audio does
[20:26] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: yes removing packages like kubuntu-desktop will list a ton of stuff
[20:26] <Cpudan80> Uh oh
[20:26] <norml_advocat1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56782/
[20:26] <Arelis> Hi people. I just tried resizing the Windows partition, and rebooted back into windows but it's still the same size. I saw it resizing the partition, but it didn't actually happen. What gives?
 why dont the ops do somthing. this happenes every wek     <--- but they DID do something.
[20:26] <norml_advocat1> I dont want to get rid of ubuntu studio
[20:26] <Jouva> Do you think they stood there and let him continue to spam names?
[20:26] <ph0rensic> Arelis, what program did you try with?
[20:26] <crisco> Jouva, I got highlighted, the damage was done
[20:26] <mai> i am trying to connect my nokia via blutouth  ,,, any help
[20:26] <ejer> norml_advocat1: just leave it then, it is not hurting you
[20:26] <Arelis> ph0rensic: gparted
[20:26] <Daviey> Jouva: discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[20:26] <crisco> i mean do preventative measures. any idiot op can ban 20 seconds later
[20:26] <crisco> big deal
[20:26] <aoupi> mai: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:26] <ph0rensic> Arelis, hmmm trying to dual boot?
[20:27] <Arelis> ph0rensic: yes
[20:27] <norml_advocat1> ejer i dont want kde, it made my system kinda screwy.  and i dont want all the extra packs
[20:27] <ZeroA4> crisco, but WHO can ban 20 seconds before???
[20:27] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: most of that stuff, at first glance, is what you want to get rid off
[20:27] <leeping2007> Hi there, I've installed network-admin-openvpn but there seems to be no "vpn" options appearing when I type in network-admin (the network configuration GUI).  I wonder what's wrong?
[20:27] <ejer> norml_advocat1: it is not doing anything unless you run them, so just leave it
[20:27] <ph0rensic> Arelis, does it give you the options to resize and install when you boot to the disk?
[20:27] <ejer> unless you feel like having fun of course
[20:27] <Prot> u
[20:27] <Prot> Ubuntu: You get what you paid for. Who agrees?
[20:27] <Prot> jawee `twek crisco ph0rensic sjefen6 Odd-rationale acrid alfermp brownan VSpike tcm Ruens norml_advocat1 scott_ leninIdebian Flare183 freeman163 SpacePilot Lumpi peter78 bartmon axel-fr HetaUma Haz MasterShrek albabe_ barzilouik Casey duns_s_ syntaxerror55 sfleury m3gach33zy eth01 subzero2000 geekahedron xjonex Gerrath GodsDead eMaX_ anthony nightmare_ Latty arreis bluefox83 spine55 bruenig hennessy two_bits DGtlRif1 ziro tobias__ cosmodad
[20:27] <Daviey> leeping2007: it shows up under nm-applet (the network applet in the corner)
[20:27] <Jouva> GAH
[20:27] <Prot> MsK` alkasteve erwan_ Flav0r m3gab0y achandrashekar clustermagnet mid5 SirBob1701 arnath01 marius zimon duns_s moise7000 jack_spratt cthom06 manox [B00] Mean-Machine MrRoland albabe cofff NastyAccident milardovich Mikelevel Idzme Metal_Militia unagi_ roentgen dgjones clarezoe KaiForce DGJ_ HiisiVonHolten Pirate-King m4steR didymo Jonty rickympl rah215 FTB|ARSENAL cybrside_ elate finalbeta root----- clay__ bmk789 nand_ cZw0 splix_ joakim2
[20:27] <Jouva> Again?
[20:27] <norml_advocat1> ejer fun is what im here for
[20:27] <Daviey> !ops Prot
[20:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops prot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:28] <norml_advocat1> kill prot
[20:28] <ZeroA4> Prot, :þ
[20:28] <Prot> mshooshtari Vinc2 fdsajkl Bhaal walmis GodTodd_ Leechzilla marve solid_liq CroX jsuther Tiven jimlay mnabil linkslice riotkittie novacrust bl4ckh3r0 Gistybit Cpudan80 dj_baggio chencolin [Chief] ka2zzzz0 ibou_ shingouz hugifrb dbe` linduxed_ tekhedz jooje Kibbles komputes ipx negonicrac Zehsiol Gigamo herciu_a edman007 pimanx KnifeHat knappen kekZpriester XiXaQ pbrunier mneisen goki_work_ _Casey_ emily MrKnights eagle-101 Panaclerio linxeh
[20:28] <ph0rensic> !ops | prot back again
[20:28] <FloodBot2> Prot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <Daviey> !ops
[20:28] <ubotu> prot back again: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[20:28] <crisco> Ubuntu: You get what you paid for. Who agrees?
[20:28] <Arelis> ph0rensic: You mean in the install utility?
[20:28] <_Casey_> holy crap another one
[20:28] <crisco> jawee `twek crisco ph0rensic sjefen6 Odd-rationale acrid alfermp brownan VSpike tcm Ruens norml_advocat1 scott_ leninIdebian Flare183 freeman163 SpacePilot Lumpi peter78 bartmon axel-fr HetaUma Haz MasterShrek albabe_ barzilouik Casey duns_s_ syntaxerror55 sfleury m3gach33zy eth01 subzero2000 geekahedron xjonex Gerrath GodsDead eMaX_ anthony nightmare_ Latty arreis bluefox83 spine55 bruenig hennessy two_bits DGtlRif1 ziro tobias__ cosmodad
[20:28] <bartmon> again?
[20:28] <Cpudan80> nickrud: Ban crisco too
[20:28] <NuNuiNaraK> HI
[20:28] <norml_advocat1> nickrud i want to learn how to run killascript 0.23a
[20:28] <_Casey_> prince got K_lined LOLOLOL
[20:28] <Jouva> Daw crap it was the same guy
[20:28] <tekhedz> ops indeed
[20:28] <MasterShrek> hello NuNuiNaraK
[20:28] <ph0rensic> Arelis, yeah
[20:28] <PriceChild> _Casey_, it was an accident and I am sure will be fixed asap.
[20:28] <leeping2007> Daviey: I can see the applet, and when I click on it I can bring up the "Network Settings" window
[20:28] <leeping2007> Daviey: But there's nothing else ...
[20:29] <Cpudan80> That happened to me before
[20:29] <Odd-rationale> norml_advocat1: see if this helps you get rid of kde: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[20:29] <tanner> i dont suppose there is a way to mount an ISO image read-write
[20:29] <_Casey_> i hate bots ;x
[20:29] <Cpudan80> Someone used an O instead of 0 to impersonate me
[20:29] <Cpudan80> And they klined the wrong Cpudan
[20:29] <emma> My top pannel has suddenly stopped auto-hidding. What's going on?
[20:29] <HoboBen> Hi all - Sound Juicer is having an "invalid parameters" error when I try to extract a CD to any format
[20:29] <ipx> my god
[20:29] <norml_advocat1> odd-rational thats where i got my stuff
[20:29] <ipx> FOR FUCK SAKE
[20:29] <Daviey> leeping2007: left click, you probably need to log out and log back in (or restart nm-applet)
[20:29] <hunteke> tanner: no
[20:29] <Cpudan80> !ohmy | ipx
[20:29] <norml_advocat1> it seems toooo complete
[20:29] <ubotu> ipx: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:29] <ph0rensic> !language | ipx
[20:30] <cube> my board has 2 ethernet ports can i have the unused port go to a laptop and share my internet connection
[20:30] <hunteke> tanner: the filesystem itself gets some of it's efficiency from not needing to worry about changes.
[20:30] <norml_advocat1> allright i just ran the huge lineoscript
[20:30] <Cpudan80> Anyway  ---- anybody know about my issue with Quicktime and firefox? Videos don't play in ffox... but I have all the plugins (I think)
[20:30] <_Casey_> i guess you could try cube
[20:30] <cube> like adhoc the connection to the laptop through ethernet and how
[20:30] <norml_advocat1> here goes everything
[20:30] <hunteke> tanner: what is the problem you are trying to solve?
[20:30] <MasterShrek> cube, youd have to set up a bridge i believe, no idea how to do it though
[20:30] <gatestone> Princesomething, are you here?
[20:30] <Arelis> ph0rensic: yes it does.
[20:30] <Cpudan80> Sorry if someone answered me, It's scrolled way off the screen by now
[20:30] <cube> casey: i did try i need to set it up!
[20:30] <nickrud> ProN00b: sorry about that
[20:30] <Bupsss> hi all
[20:30] <cube> i will look into the bridge
[20:30] <cube> thankyou shrek
[20:30] <root-----> badly need help with networking. please need your 5 mins.. http://pastebin.com/m2fbb2d05
[20:30] <MasterShrek> gl
[20:30] <_Casey_> id look on google for you but im setting up vbox as we speak
[20:30] <ph0rensic> Arelis, I would use that option it has worked for me in the past..
[20:31] <Bupsss> can anybody explain how to install a gtk theme? please
[20:31] <norml_advocat1> what is the big deal about kde?  I dont get what it is.
[20:31] <cube> looks like bridging is when you connect 2 internets to 1 machine
[20:31] <Cpudan80> Its another desktop manager norml_advocat1
[20:31] <Cpudan80> Like GNOME
[20:31] <soulburner> cube, isnt that multihoming?
[20:31] <s> norml_advocat1: it's just a window manager alternative
[20:31] <ph0rensic> Arelis, gparted is sort of weird for me, but it works great during installation... another way to resize the disk is through windows software
[20:31] <gatestone> In case someone saw my question about slow boot, yes it was about bad splashscreen, and "nosplash" in menu.lst did it.
[20:31] <cube> i don't know what multihoming is
[20:32] <norml_advocat1> whats wrong with gnome, i like it better
[20:32] <leeping2008> It looks like the option for VPN still doesn't appear after logging out and back in
[20:32] <MasterShrek> !best | norml_advocat1
[20:32] <ubotu> norml_advocat1: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[20:32] <leeping2008> Should I restart the computer?  It's preferable that I don't, because the computer is a server...
[20:32] <cube> but it looks to be that bridging is putting 2 connections together for more bandwidth
[20:32] <mnabil> root-----, !!! what is this ?!
[20:32] <Jobias> norml_advocat1: nothing's wrong with gnome. kde is just another choice
[20:32] <aoupi> norml_advocat1: different people have different preferences, as easy as that :)
[20:32] <s> normal_advocate1 nothing, its a preferances thing
[20:32] <aoupi> norml_advocat1: oh I see you already got a !best
[20:32] <mnabil> root-----,  FGI
[20:32] <norml_advocat1> thpthpthpthp
[20:32] <paolob> Hi guys, I'm trying to get a 1440x900 lcd monitor working with a ati radeon 9000 , all I get is that the monitor reaches that resolution, but using only 3/4 of the screen. Is that a known problem? any hint?
[20:33] <root-----> mnabil whats fgi ?
[20:33] <s> i just ran into a huge problem that i don't know how to fix...
[20:33] <cube> anyone else have any ideas on connecting a laptop to the unused ethernet port on my board to share the internet connection
[20:33] <ph0rensic> norml_advocat1, I like gnome because it doesn't install as much stuff everywhere and I like the way it looks better too .. some like the look of KDE, i guess it is more windows like??
[20:33] <niknik> I think I solved my problem.  Thank you everyone who tried to help.
[20:33] <ph0rensic> Arelis your gone huh
[20:33] <norml_advocat1> ph0rensic i dont like windows, i like gnome myself
[20:33] <ph0rensic> norml_advocat1, ah k
[20:34] <norml_advocat1> and kde made my system messup
[20:34] <tanner> norml_advocat1: how so?
[20:34] <ph0rensic> norml_advocat1, I tried it once but it seemed to install way too much stuff
[20:34] <s> i just tryed putting the nvidea drivers on my system instead of the nv drivers like it said on the website, and when i rebooted, now i can't start x :(
[20:34] <norml_advocat1> yep
[20:34] <Tyczek> I've problem with microphone... On skype sound is good (that people say), but when I want to record voice to file... it's quietly and groan... http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2084/zrzutekranu3el0.png that's mixers... Probably digital is capturing...
[20:34] <gaten> im trying to connect to a shared feisty printer from a gusty machine, and when i try to make the printer default in gusty (I can see it and print a test page fine), i get the error: there was an error during CUPS operation: 'client-error-forbidden'. why can i print a test page but I cant make the printer default
[20:34] <bartmon> Does anyone have a breakdown of basic groups a user can be a member of?
[20:34] <eQualizer> Tekniikan ihmelapset kertokaa. Jos näytössä on HDMI-liitäntä, joka löytyy esim. Xbox360:stä, niin saako nämä kaksi toimimaan keskenään? Onko tarvetta tv:lle?
[20:34] <ejer> cube: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces
[20:34] <eQualizer> Sorry, wrong channel.
[20:34] <Bupsss> anyone knows how to apply correctly this theme? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+one?content=73798
[20:35] <ejer> bartmon: look at the user/group app in administration
[20:35] <bastid_raZor> is there a way to find out why a package was put on hold if not done by the user?
[20:35] <s> ejer: it was that site that u sent me to earlier
[20:35] <nickrud> !fi | eQualizer
[20:35] <ubotu> eQualizer: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[20:35] <bartmon> ejer: I can't
[20:35] <Jobias> paolob: can you be more specific? what do you mean by only using 3/4 of the screen?
[20:35] <XiXaQ> gaten, perhaps it's a permission issue? It makes sense that most users are allowed to print, but only some are allowed to switch printers.
[20:35] <mnabil> root-----, fucken google it
[20:35] <PriceChild> !jfgi | mnabil
[20:35] <ejer> s: huh?
[20:35] <Arelis> who was the one helping me with the partitioning?
[20:35] <ubotu> mnabil: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[20:35] <bartmon> ejer: I don't have that on my menu because i just removed my user from all groups
[20:35] <cube> ejer: looks to be what i need...guess i was wrong about bridging being 2 connections two 1 computer
[20:35] <nickrud> !language | mnabil this as well
[20:35] <ubotu> mnabil this as well: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:36] <bartmon> ejer: now i wanna undo that
[20:36] <^CatMan^> i just d/l sirc since i didn't have an irc client for a terminal :)
[20:36] <HoboBen> Oops solved my pronlem - thanks for your time folks, see you all soon
[20:36] <bartmon> brb
[20:36] <root-----> mnabil why do you think iam here. i met google. he didnt told me any thing
[20:36] <MasterShrek> ubuntu 8.10: intrepid ibex   eh? thats a weird name lol
[20:36] <_Casey_> !pastebin
[20:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:36] <paolob> Jobias, the monitor actually uses 1440x900, but using only the right part of the screen. I mean it leaves a 200 px black area in the left part of the screen
[20:37] <Arelis> Hi all. I tried resizing my Windows partition using the Ubuntu installer but it says "An error occured." and it doesn't give information on the actual error.
[20:37] <Arelis> and it says it's been aborted
[20:37] <Jobias> paolob: so the aspect ratio isn't set properly?
[20:37] <ejer> root-----: i don't know what fgi is either :)
[20:37] <paolob> Jobias, exactly, the screen is comprimed
[20:37] <root-----> ejer fuckig google it
[20:38] <gaten> XiXaQ: but this is a local issue. im running it through gksudo, so there should not be any permission issues
[20:38] <Jouva> root-----: I see what you did there.
[20:38] <ChosenOne> lo
[20:38] <ejer> good luck with your problem root----- :)
[20:39] <Jobias> paolob: and going into preferences->screen resolution or admimistration->screens and graphics doesn't help?
[20:39] <^CatMan^> ejer: any idea how to get me back into x?
[20:39] <Arelis> Did anyone read my question?
[20:39] <ejer> ^CatMan^: startx ?
[20:39] <aoupi> ^CatMan^: have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[20:40] <^CatMan^> tried that kicked out an error
[20:40] <ejer> Arelis: i did... looks like this is not gonna work
[20:40] <paolob> Jobias, in preferences-> screen resolution it shows other resolutions with the same 60 Hz frequency, but obviously they aren't worth a try because they are not 16:9 resolutions
[20:40] <Arelis> ejer: Alright. what might be the cause, then? :)
[20:40] <foso> is there a way to set the display to dim after i havent used it for a while like on a mac?
[20:40] <cicero_b> anyone know howto go to a specific line numbered x in emacs
[20:40] <ejer> Arelis: lots of things, you should not try to resize win partitions in my opinion
[20:40] <ejer> foso: power settings in prefs
[20:41] <_Casey_> o.o i have a problem. http://pastebin.com/m4504014b
[20:41] <Jouva> Arelis: Did you defrag the partition atleast?
[20:41] <SpacePilot> So, anyone know why this happends?  http://i32.tinypic.com/2pob42s.png
[20:41] <ejer> _Casey_: since I am sure you read the readme, maybe try sudo gpasswd - a youruser vboxusers
[20:41] <erUSUL> cicero_b: emacs +linenumber file.txt it works on mosst text editors not only emacs
[20:41] <Jouva> Arelis: I'm grabbing straws mind you :)
[20:41] <MrRoland> damn if ubuntu had a better name...
[20:41] <ejer> erUSUL: looks like a bug to me
[20:42] <erUSUL> ejer: ??
[20:42] <Jobias> paolob: hmmm, i had a similar problem, but i have an nvidia card and bypassed the ubuntu control panel and used the nvidia control panel directly to force it to work with my dual monitors (which were displaying at an improper resolution like yours). but since you're running ATI, i'm not sure how to help you. i suspect you'd have to go in and fiddle with the xorg config files manually
[20:42] <Cpudan80> _Casey_: are you actually in the virtual users group?
[20:42] <cicero_b> erUSUL: i was hoping to do it in the editor
[20:42] <Arelis> Jouva: Yes, i did defrag it before. :)
[20:42] <Slart> SpacePilot: soo.. firefox is acting as usual.. I'm a bit surprised about pidgin though =)
[20:42] <ejer> erUSUL: ? a bug, like there is a problem in the software?
[20:42] <Arelis> ejer: Yes but i want to dual-boot.
[20:42] <erUSUL> cicero_b: ooops
[20:42] <_Casey_> i have no idea
[20:42] <ejer> Arelis: you install windows first, on one partition, then ubuntu on another
[20:42] <cicero_b> oh M-X goto-line works
[20:43] <SpacePilot> Slart: Hell, I guess doing bling-bling on xterm was to much after all. :)
[20:43] <ejer> Arelis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[20:43] <Arelis> ejer: That is not an option. I don't have the disk used to install this Windows
[20:43] <erUSUL> cicero_b: M-x goto-line
[20:43] <Arelis> ejer: it came pre-installed with this computer
[20:43] <nickrud> _Casey_: sudo adduser <username> vboxusers , log out and back in. Should fix it
[20:43] <ejer> look at that guide
[20:43] <Slart> SpacePilot: hehe.. are you on 64 or 32 bit? does it do this all the time?
[20:43] <ejer> Arelis: this is dangerous tho, you could wipe windows
[20:43] <SpacePilot> 32 bit, and I restarted the computer, same thing.
[20:44] <cicero_b> o.k. here is a better one: how do i dos2unix in ubuntu?
[20:44] <snirp> Hey there, no experience in Linux but planning to enrich my life with Ubuntu on my next system... some questions....
[20:44] <cicero_b> (or remove the ^M characters in emacs)
[20:44] <luisa> Hi... could anyone tell me where styles are saved? (I'm trying to edit the Main menu icon on the Ubuntu Studio distro)
[20:44] <snirp> ... will linux support latest chipsets (AMD 780G)
[20:44] <Jouva> nickrud: adduser or addgroup ?
[20:44] <Arelis> ejer: any other way to dual-boot with Ubuntu? (I plan to use it as my main system except for gaming (but i will play open-source games on it)
[20:45] <ejer> Arelis: that guide is the way - you have to have 2 partitions
[20:45] <nickrud> Jouva: adduser:  if you append a group name, the user will get added to the group
[20:45] <snirp> and the built-in graphics card?
[20:45] <Arelis> ejer: yes but to do that i'd have to resize windows
[20:45] <Jouva> nickrud: Ok just that I thought he was looking to get his existing user in the group
[20:45] <ejer> Arelis: yes
[20:45] <VSpike> can anyone access ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub ?
[20:45] <nickrud> Jouva: yup he was
[20:45] <norml_advocate> How do I get my aptoncd to stop recognizing the packages i do not have installed?
[20:45] <Arelis> ejer: But i tried that already and got the error - both on gparted and the installer.
[20:45] <Jouva> You can "adduser" with an existing name?
[20:45] <foso> (using 7.10 and a compaq laptop, ati radeon)
[20:46] <Jobias> snirp: sure will, as far as i know
[20:46] <nickrud> cicero_b: install tofrodos package
[20:46] <_Casey_> brb
[20:46] <prince_jammys> VSpike: yes
[20:46] <nickrud> Jouva: yes
[20:46] <Jouva> Seems backwards but ok :)
[20:46] <snirp> Jobias: nice, is my only concern
[20:46] <sip> Ludi!! kar perekluchitsa na russkiy??????
[20:46] <ejer> Arelis: looks like you are stuck then, probably other partitions on system... you can always run from livecd, but without really changing your drive, what can ya do?
[20:46] <VSpike> ejer: mencoder won't seem to do it without a video stream, so I'm tring Perl Audio Converter :)
[20:46] <ejer> Arelis: get a windows install cd then mess around
[20:46] <nickrud> Jouva: a nice util debian provides.
[20:46] <norml_advocate> How do I get my aptoncd to stop recognizing the packages i do not have installed?  or how do I get rid of packages i do not have installed?
[20:47] <Jobias> snirp: you /might/ have a bit of fiddling to do to get the onboard graphics to work, but i don't think it would be unbearable
[20:47] <aoupi> !ru | sip
[20:47] <ejer> VSpike: mencoder -ovc dummy should workj
[20:47] <ubotu> sip: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:47] <bartmon> Hi. Why does "usermod -m -G adm,disk,cdrom,audio,video,dhcp,fuse,mysql,postgres,clamav" not work?
[20:47] <sip> !ru | sip
[20:47] <sip> ne ponal
[20:47] <aoupi> bartmon: you need to tell it what user
[20:47] <norml_advocate> How do I get my aptoncd to stop recognizing the packages i do not have installed?  or how do I get rid of packages i do not have installed?
[20:47] <aoupi> bartmon: usermod -m -G adm,disk,cdrom,audio,video,dhcp,fuse,mysql,postgres,clamav bartmon
[20:47] <bartmon> aoupi: sorry, forgot to paste hat
[20:47] <danand_> _Casey_ - if your setting up virtualbox make sure the kernel has the vboxdrv module loaded ie sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[20:47] <ynef> bartmon: forgot your username at the end, perhaps?
[20:48] <bartmon> i do have a user at the end
[20:48] <_Casey_> ok hold on
[20:48] <bartmon> it's "usermod -m -G adm,disk,cdrom,audio,video,dhcp,fuse,mysql,postgres,clamav bartman"
[20:48] <aoupi> bartmon: are you sure -m exists?
[20:48] <snirp> Jobias: I am not easily scared ;) but i think the chipset will be quite big pretty soon so people will soon figure it out if i won't be able myself
[20:48] <norml_advocate> How do I get my aptoncd to stop recognizing the packages i do not have installed?  or how do I get rid of packages i do not have installed?
[20:48] <bartmon> aoupi: yep, that's prolly it
[20:48] <_Casey_> alright lets try now
[20:48] <bartmon> thanks!
[20:48] <Flannel> bartmon: why don't you use -G [couple of groups] -a?
[20:49] <m3gach33zy> hey guys i just built a new computer and should i first install ubuntu? or should i do xp then ubuntu?
[20:49] <VSpike> ejer: Option ovc: Unknown suboption dummy
[20:49] <ynef> m3gach33zy: xp, then ubuntu
[20:49] <bartmon> Flannel: what does -a do? add instead of overwrite?
[20:49] <Flannel> bartmon: yes
[20:49] <aoupi> m3gach33zy: only ubuntu :)
[20:49] <ynef> m3gach33zy: well, technically, my answer would be "only ubuntu", but you wanted xp as well ;-)
[20:49] <aoupi> bartmon: yes, it appends the groups given in -G
[20:49] <norml_advocate> How do I get my aptoncd to stop recognizing the packages i do not have installed?  or how do I get rid of packages i do not have installed?
[20:49] <m3gach33zy> aoupi: well i would only do ubuntu but i'm afraid it wont work copmletly
[20:50] <ejer> VSpike: i don't have any wma files to try, is your public somewhere
[20:50] <ynef> bartmon: dude, check the man page -- it is actually readable (unlike some others) ;-)
[20:50] <ejer> norml_advocate: repeating that often the exact smae thing does not help
[20:50] <bartmon> Flannel: Well i didn't realise it would overwrite my goups in the first place. So now i'm trying to get a functional user account working agsin.
[20:50] <norml_advocate> ejer any other suggestions?
[20:50] <Flare183> norml_advocate: to clean your cache, you have to open up a terminal and then type in sudo apt-get clean
[20:50] <VSpike> ejer: yeah its at http://www.carlyleclarke.plus.com/01%20Feeling%20Oblivion.wma
[20:50] <ph0rensic> Back.. sorry was afk
[20:50] <_Casey_> yeah virtualbox is just giving me a black screen when im running it
[20:50] <VSpike> ejer: thanks
[20:50] <ynef> m3gach33zy: well, you should go windows first, ubuntu second -- windows will simply replace your boot loader on install, so you have to jump through hoops if you install ubuntu and then xp
[20:50] <norml_advocate> flare183 you da man
[20:51] <ejer> gimme 2-3 VSpike
[20:51] <norml_advocate> flare183 or the woman
[20:51] <Flare183> man
[20:51] <bartmon> ynef: that's where i got -G from but i didn't realise groups would be set to exactly that which you give
[20:51] <m3gach33zy> ynef: thanks
[20:51] <Flare183> norml_advocate: i'm a man
[20:51] <norml_advocate> flare183 then you da man
[20:51] <ynef> bartmon: ah, well, yeah -- that's why -a appends the groups to your already existing group memberships... quite handy, that :-)
[20:51] <ynef> m3gach33zy: no problem :-)
[20:52] <norml_advocate> flare183 now aptoncd isnt finding any packages
[20:52] <Flare183> ok then...
[20:52] <VSpike> very annoying.  can't install pacpl because I can't reach ftp.perl.org
[20:52] <aoupi> norml_advocate: apt-get check
[20:52] <Flare183> norml_advocate: well you aren't supposed to use aptoncd
[20:52] <Flare183> norml_advocate: really you are supposed to use apt-get
[20:52] <aoupi> norml_advocate: perhaps that finds out what's wrong (probably not)
[20:53] <m3gach33zy> does anyone think that it will be a problem to install xp vista and ubuntu?
[20:53] <MrKeuner> hi, can I connect to user x on server suing vncviewer when user x, y, z are in session?
[20:53] <ph0rensic> m3gab0y, No, Ive seen a triple boot xp, vista, and ubuntu
[20:53] <ynef> m3gach33zy: what, all three? if so, go xp -> vista -> ubuntu
[20:53] <Flare183> m3gach33zy: depends on which you install first
[20:53] <Semloh> Hey im new to linux and im having trouble running programs with python can anyone help?
[20:53] <ejer> VSpike: mplayer -ao pcm:file=test.wav 01\ Feeling\ Oblivion.wma
[20:53] <ejer> VSpike: works fine
[20:53] <HetaUma> hmm any ideas where do I set users that are able to shut down the computer?
[20:54] <aoupi> !ask | Semloh
[20:54] <ubotu> Semloh: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:54] <norml_advocate> sudo apt-get check didnt work!
[20:54] <MrKeuner> vncviewer takes me to the user who has opened the first session
[20:54] <m3gach33zy> well i have a big hdd so i thought why not have all 3 just for the heck of it
[20:54] <ynef> m3gach33zy: vista will most likely recognise your xp install, and add it to some boot menu, and then ubuntu can understand and use them both
[20:54] <norml_advocate> nothin in aptoncd!
[20:54]  * Flare183 says i haven't really worked with aptoncd
[20:54] <gatestone> prince_jammys, thx for the tip, I used nosplash to fix my slow boot...
[20:55] <nickrud> HetaUma: I believe they need to bin in the powerdev group,  sudo adduser <usrname> powerdev . (that user will have to log out and back in for it to take effect)
[20:55] <prince_jammys> gatestone: good
[20:55] <m3gach33zy> ynef:  i see thanks
[20:55] <gary_> Does anyone know where kexi looks for templates?
[20:56] <Flare183> gary_: yeah on kde-files.org
[20:56] <Ximal> would anyone mind telling me how or what theurl for the ps3 ubuntu installation is ?
[20:56] <ynef> m3gach33zy: ubuntu plays well with others, windows... not so much. so install the smartest os last ;-)
[20:56] <hunterp> what is the default login? i installed an ubuntu vmware image and i can't login
[20:56] <MrJoey> Quick question:  If you use the first guided option in the Ubuntu installer, will it automatically install alongside Windows?
[20:56] <Flare183> hunterp: nothing
[20:56] <norml_advocat1> why did I just get booted?
[20:56] <ejer> hunterp: it will say on page you got it from
[20:57] <m3gach33zy> ynef: hahahah xD
[20:57] <Flare183> norml_advocat1: i don't know
[20:57] <norml_advocat1> hhhhmmmm
[20:57] <soulburner> can i reformat 2 drives when installing ubuntu?
[20:57] <nickrud> Ximal: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.10/release/
[20:57] <norml_advocat1> how do i get aptoncd to recognize installed packages?
[20:57] <ynef> soulburner: sure
[20:57] <gatestone> prince_jammys, I used nosplash because there seems to be no VESA vga code inb the kernerl for 1280x800 that I am using (Thinkpad)
[20:57] <m3gach33zy> ynef: how does ubuntu play well with xp and vista?  I don't understand how they can all work together
[20:57] <gary_> Flare183: I mean where it looks for templates locally.
[20:57] <soulburner> ynef, where is the option, or what do i need to look for?
[20:57] <prince_jammys> gatestone: i see, i'll remember that
[20:58] <soulburner> im on ubuntu now, but im wanting to format my windows side and reinstall everything
[20:58] <Flare183> gary_: i think in it's  /usr/share/kexi folder but I'm not sure
[20:58] <soulburner> going to switch to ubuntu
[20:58] <ynef> soulburner: well, when the partitioner comes up, just choose your other harddrive and go to town with the formatting
[20:58] <norml_advocat1> how do i get aptoncd to recognize installed packages?
[20:58] <aman> can anyone tell is there anyway to trace a person through his email id????
[20:58] <ejer> m3gach33zy: linux has a better bootloader
[20:58] <prince_jammys> gatestone: replaced "splash" with "nosplash" , right?
[20:58] <Flare183> !offtopic | aman
[20:58] <ubotu> aman: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:58] <Ximal> yes nickrud but I remember a tutorial on what to and not to do .. and that page is just the download page.. ;(
[20:58] <soulburner> so far unbuntu has done everything ive done in windows, and done it better
[20:58] <Flare183> !install | Ximal
[20:58] <ubotu> Ximal: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:59] <ejer> norml_advocat1: can you explain your question, what do you want to do
[20:59] <m3gach33zy> ejer: what does that mean exactly?
[20:59] <ynef> m3gach33zy: well, plays well in that regard meant that it will recognise the other os:s existance and add them to your boot menu -- and, of course, ubuntu can read windows' files, but not the other way around
[20:59] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: i think aptoncd uses the cache, and when you did autoclean, you cleared the cache *maybe*
[20:59] <gatestone> prince_jammys, I also added my specs to the relavan Ubuntu bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/61711
[20:59] <ynef> m3gach33zy: (unless you install some extra drivers, that is)
[20:59] <ejer> m3gach33zy: you could go look into grub, don't think we could explain it all here
[20:59] <nickrud> Ximal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3 ?
[20:59] <gary_> Flare183: There's a /usr/share/apps/kexi but no templates.
[20:59] <Flare183> gary_: i don't know then...
[20:59] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: are you trying to duplicate your installation on another computer?
[21:00] <Ximal> the ubotu actually helped. thanks guys
[21:00] <Vulcanis> So, I recently installed ubuntu on a thinkpad x60, and the wireless range is something like half that of what I got in windows
[21:00] <danand_> hi all - does anyone know how i can set up my entries in /dev so that /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1 point to the devices I want them to. At the moment they are the wrong way round ie /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdd and /dev/cdrom1 points to  /dev/hdc?
[21:00] <bartmon> If I add a user to a new group can I enforce the new settings without a reboot?
[21:00] <ynef> Vulcanis: does it work, though? the driver could just be reporting a really low value
[21:00] <Vulcanis> it works
[21:00] <nickrud> bartmon: log that user out completely, then log back in
[21:00] <Vulcanis> but my room, which I can get a mid-quality signal in windows, does not get a connection to the router in the living room
[21:01] <danand_> bartmon - just logout and log in again
[21:01] <ynef> Vulcanis: I have really crappy values too, but the same speed and actual quality as in windows
[21:01] <ynef> Vulcanis: ah, well, then that's a problem
[21:01] <Vulcanis> its only the range thats the problem
[21:01] <ynef> Vulcanis: what module are you using? is it ndiswrapper, or a native one?
[21:01] <choudesh> Vulcanis, you may want to increase your txpower
[21:02] <Vulcanis> just the one that came with ubuntu.  I'm somewhat new to this, I have not used *nix in two years.
[21:02] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys i did clean the cache, and i am trying to make a cd for when I break my computer again
[21:02] <choudesh> Vulcanis, man iwconfig and look at txpower
[21:02] <ynef> Vulcanis: ok, can you type "lsmod | grep ndis" in a terminal and see if it gives you a response?
[21:02] <Vulcanis> thanks.  Any idea what it should be set to, chou?
[21:02] <HetaUma> any ideas why suddenly the shutdown and restart buttons from the main user disapear ?
[21:02] <Vulcanis> ynef: I'm not on the laptop right now, I'll go and grab it
[21:02] <bartmon> nickrud: danand_: thank
[21:02] <bartmon> youj
[21:03] <ynef> choudesh: how do you increase the tx power?
[21:03] <ynef> choudesh: i know how to read it, but how do I set it? :-)
[21:03] <choudesh> Vulcanis, most likely it is set to a powersaving mode. just check it out and see how to get it and give it a large integer, say 100000; that would increase it to the make
[21:03] <EnderTheThird> Anyone know how to enable thumbnails for network-mounted drives?
[21:03] <Vulcanis> thanks
[21:03] <ynef> ah, there you go: it's in iwconfig of course ;-)
[21:03] <choudesh> ynef, look at man iwconfig; txpower section
[21:04] <ynef> choudesh: yeah :-)
[21:04] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: you could just save a list of all the packages and then apt-get install them all in the future.  there's a script that does that
[21:04] <bartmon> Is there a website detailing user groups on a linux system?
[21:04] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys but i dont always have the net. and want a disc
[21:04] <bartmon> at least the common ones
[21:04] <choudesh> Vulcanis, if that doesn't help - come back and I will help you more
[21:04] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: ah
[21:04] <^CatMan^> i just tried putting the settings back the defaults with the only diff bein the nvidia driver, but when i try to 'startx' it says no screens found :(
[21:05] <choudesh> Vulcanis, you may have to ping me a few times to get my attention
[21:05] <ejer> bartmon: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/users_in_ubuntu
[21:05] <norml_advocat1> Does anyone know how to get aptoncd to recognize installed packages?
[21:05] <ph0rensic> norml_advocat1, There is probably a way to package them on the disc, and then the script can read the disc as a repository to install everything
[21:05] <choudesh> norml_advocat1, installed or that are in the cache?
[21:05] <bartmon> ejer: thanks
[21:05] <aoupi> bartmon: there is an explanation next to them in "Users and Groups"
[21:05] <norml_advocat1> choudesh installed I just cleared the cache
[21:06] <choudesh> norml_advocat1, easiest way is just to apt-get download-only packages you have installed then they are added to the cache again and let aptoncd look there
[21:06] <ynef> ^CatMan^: well, that can be for any number of reasons -- look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log where you have errors (EE)
[21:06] <ejer> bartmon: http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/restore-default-ubuntu-groups/
[21:06] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: apt-get does have a download-only option that you should look into
[21:06] <norml_advocat1> choudesh you the man
[21:06] <norml_advocat1> thanks
[21:06] <^CatMan^> ynef: what exactly am i looking for?
[21:06] <ynef> ^CatMan^: stuff that says "(EE) ...something"
[21:06] <choudesh> norml_advocat1, thank the channel, we are all here to help
[21:06] <bartmon> aoupi: i don't have that menu entry
[21:07] <ynef> ^CatMan^: no screens found could be that your kernel module does not match the installed driver, for instance
[21:07] <norml_advocat1> thanks channel!!!
[21:07] <^CatMan^> ok
[21:07] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: this will generate the list:::: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:install$='| awk '{print $1}' > installedpackages
[21:07] <ThipThip> Question:  Is there reason to be concerned about security with a wireless keyboard in Ubuntu?  Couldn't someone with some kind of sniffer pick up all of my keystrokes?  The logitech keyboard I'm using has a security program for Windows, the actual efficacy of which I have no idea.  Is there some generic equivalent for Linux (there appears not to be one from logitech).  Should I be worried?
[21:07] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: ooops
[21:07] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: don't know what happened there
[21:07] <aoupi> bartmon: it comes when you hilight a user, click properties and then in the User priviliges tab
[21:07] <white_eagle> just a  general question, do usb wifi receivers work with ubuntu or linux in general?
[21:08] <[chr0n0s]> white_eagle, as a matter of fact they do
[21:08] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys please say again
[21:08] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/gaming/top-5-amazing-free-games-you-probably-never-played-and-should/
[21:08] <choudesh> ThipThip, to be honest - there is no such program for *nix.
[21:08] <ejer> ThipThip: you should be worried if you have reason to... but you should understand there are bigger security risks
[21:08] <white_eagle> [chr0n0s]: do all of them work?
[21:08] <shad0w1e> hey is anyone familiar with 'FakeRaid'? How would I repair a fakeraid?
[21:08] <white_eagle> frome the newer ones
[21:08] <white_eagle> I mean
[21:08] <[chr0n0s]> white_eagle, they don't
[21:08] <choudesh> ThipThip, wireless keyboards/mice are inherently insecure.
[21:08] <white_eagle> [chr0n0s]: what setupd do they require?
[21:08] <white_eagle> setup*
[21:09] <aheckler> does anyone know how i can set a script to autorun when i mount my external HDD?
[21:09] <ThipThip> ejer:  Bigger security risks?  To what are you referring?
[21:09] <^CatMan^> ok, found it yver
[21:09] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: check this site:: http://www.debianadmin.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html  ,, but on the last step, see if you can use "apt-get --download-only install" instead of "aptitude install"
[21:09] <ejer> ThipThip: unless you are really securing your system, I would not worry about wireless keyboard
[21:09] <ThipThip> choudesh:  I wouldn't be worried about mouse clicks... Best to stick to wired for the keyboard you think?  Is it easy to "sniff" the signal?
[21:09] <ynef> ^CatMan^: did you mean me? :-) and if so, what was the problem?
[21:09] <[chr0n0s]> white_eagle, that's a too general question to be answered, but most of the intel cards work, and broadcomm also works
[21:09] <ejer> ThipThip: for instance keyloggers are trivial to get and use
[21:10] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: sorry, no "install"
[21:10] <ThipThip> ejer:  Well I'd like to think that eavesdropping and the like is more or less impossible... Am I wrong with ubuntu out of the box?
[21:10] <choudesh> ThipThip, WLOGS yes.
[21:10] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: check "man apt-get" for how to just download
[21:10] <^CatMan^> ynef: yeah, sorry, and the error was Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[21:10] <ejer> ThipThip: no system is entirely secure I would have to say
[21:10] <ThipThip> ejer:  Yes, but someone would have to have physical access to my computer to install a keylogger, no?
[21:10] <ejer> yep
[21:10] <karl_> when i am installing libc6 i get "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place, /sbin/ldconfig.real: Cannot mmap file /lib/libc.so.6."
[21:10] <karl_> anyone know how to reconsile?
[21:10] <white_eagle> thanks [chr0n0s]
[21:10] <b4l74z4r> is all my system settings stored on my home partition, so if i re-install, all my settings will be kept?
[21:10] <EnderTheThird> anyone know why gnome doesn't show thumbnails for a drive mounted from a network, or if there's a way to get it to?
[21:10] <ynef> ^CatMan^: what did you do with your nvidia driver? did you install the one on the website, or something?
[21:10]  * m3gab0y is Away: Just Away.
[21:10] <bastid_raZor> is there a way to find out why a package was put on hold if not done by the user?
[21:10] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: the site gives you a way of generating the package list and saving it on a file.  you will then use this file to redownload everything
[21:11] <bartmon> ejer: that 2nd link looks like a winner
[21:11] <bartmon> thanks
[21:11] <ejer> this is theoretical stuff ThipThip just saying you are more likely to have your box rooted than your wireless keyboard decrypted
[21:11] <ynef> b4l74z4r: well, your personal settings are stored there -- system settings are stored in /etc -- might want to copy that to your home account
[21:11] <ejer> bastid_raZor: what do you mean?
[21:12] <^CatMan^> ynef: i didn't think it did anything with it, the website said make sure i am using the nvidia driver, not the nv, so i unchecked the nv one and checked the nvidia driver, then i lost x :(
[21:12] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys i just want to burn all my packs to a cd
[21:12] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: right, the question is whether you have to redownload them. do you?
[21:12] <ynef> ^CatMan^: have you installed the driver itself, then?
[21:12] <Vulcanis> choudesh: It worked, thanks.
[21:13] <orgy_> hi, im trying to get my cpu freq scaling to work. but it seems like powernowd needs one of those powernow-k* modules. but theyre not loaded, and i cant load them. where do i get them?
[21:13] <choudesh> Vulcanis, no problem.
[21:13] <bastid_raZor> ejer; when i ran aptitude safe-upgrade it tells me several packages were held back. i did not tell any packages to be held back. why would aptitude automatically hold them?
[21:13] <ejer> bastid_raZor: because you asked for a safe upgrade
[21:13] <blend> hiih
[21:13] <ejer> bastid_raZor: do a dist-upgrade to install them
[21:13] <white_eagle> bye guys
[21:13] <ThipThip> ejer:  Do you have any general suggestions to keep from being rooted?
[21:14] <^CatMan^> i ran it thru dpkgreconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:14] <bastid_raZor> ejer; i'm confused why a safe-upgrade would hold them? would apt-get be a better way to go then?
[21:14] <ejer> ThipThip: i don't think you need to worry much, use a router, a software firewall if you like
[21:14] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys my computer is working fine right now.  But I want to backup my packages for later.  but my aptoncd is not finding my installed packages.  where are they stored?
[21:14] <aoupi> ThipThip: disable services you don't use, use strong passwords, update often
[21:14] <ejer> bastid_raZor: you specifically asked not to install non-'safe' packages
[21:14] <choudesh> ejer, even with a dist-upgrade packages are help back. The reason for being help back is dep-issues, ver-issues and packages non exists in the new repo but cater to dep-issues
[21:14] <ThipThip> ejer, aoupi:  Thank you.
[21:14] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: i understand perfectly what you want to do.  i'm just not sure whether you have redownload the packages after clearing the cache
[21:15] <bastid_raZor> ejer; ahh i see.. okay .. thank you
[21:15] <ejer> choudesh: that should not happen...
[21:15] <norml_advocat1> i did not redownload anything yet.  do i have to ?
[21:15] <choudesh> ejer, what should not happen?
[21:15] <norml_advocat1> i just want to backup whats installed already
[21:15] <ejer> choudesh: dep issues etc
[21:15] <ejer> apt-get upgrade will not install kernel releases for example
[21:16] <prince_jammys> ejer: norml_advocat1 did apt-get autoclean and now wants to save his installed packages using aptoncd. does he need to redownload the packages with apt-get --download-only?
[21:16] <^CatMan^> um... did i do something wrong?
[21:16] <danbhfive> ok, I want to install another OS, using a virtual machine,   what keyword am I looking for?  or what program am I looking for?
[21:16] <aheckler> is there a way to autorun a script when i plug in my external HDD?
[21:16] <hunterp> is there some easy way to grow my partitions?
[21:16] <choudesh> ejer, they do. install 7.04 and dist-upgrade -d to 7.10, many packages will be help back because of loss of dep-issues
[21:16] <ejer> danbhfive: virtualbox.org is good
[21:16] <ejer> choudesh: that is not the way to upgrade :)
[21:17] <ejer> i did not say you could not make it happen, it should not if you do things the ubuntu way
[21:17] <ubuntu_> can someone help me set up a dual windows/ubuntu boot?
[21:17] <danbhfive> ejer: thanks
[21:17] <choudesh> ejer, shit happens (if anyone ubotu languages me...)
[21:17] <norml_advocat1> ejer: norml_advocat1 did apt-get autoclean and now wants to save his installed packages using aptoncd. does he need to redownload the packages with apt-get --download-only?
[21:17] <ubuntu_> can someone help me set up a dual windows/ubuntu boot?
[21:18] <xidarian> ubuntu_ best thing you can do is install windows first, leaving freespace for ubuntu then install ubuntu on the freespace
[21:18] <ejer> choudesh: only if you don't follow procedures, or want to get hackish
[21:18] <ubuntu_> xidarian, Here's the thing: I already have both windows and ubuntu fully installed
[21:18] <xidarian> ubuntu_ well, what exactly is yoru problem
[21:18] <ubuntu_> xidarian, But I can only get on windows... right now i'm using ubuntu live CD to access ubuntu files
[21:18] <xrestassuredx> ubuntu_: what version of windows?
[21:18] <ubuntu_> xidarian, XP
[21:19] <aheckler> is there a way to autorun a script when i plug in my external HDD?
[21:19] <Raizard> How can I delete an icon on the desktop that i can't remove with the right click?
[21:19] <choudesh> ejer, not really...just look at packages.ubuntu.com and find a package that doesn't exist in 7.10 that did in 7.04...then find a package that depends on that package in 7.04 but not in 7.10 and you will see held back packages
[21:19] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: once that question is answered, things will be clearer :)
[21:19] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys who will answer is the question
[21:20] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: he's your best bet at the moment
[21:20] <^CatMan^> ok, where can i download the nvidia driver, or where would it be on my system to see if i need to download it?
[21:20] <ejer> choudesh: how would someone get in this situation? they would not have used update-manager i guess, so they broke stuff
[21:20] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys i did run that download-only thing
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> ^CatMan^: have you looked in System/Admin/Restricted?
[21:20] <norml_advocat1> didnt work
[21:20] <ejer> Raizard: which icon
[21:20] <ubuntu_> xrestassuredx, Sorry, I thought you were xidarian... I am using XP
[21:20] <^CatMan^> indygunfreak: i can't even get into x!
[21:20] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: error message?
[21:21] <norml_advocat1> lemme do it again
[21:21] <choudesh> ejer, just find a package that doesn't exist in 7.10 that did a previous version and some other package depends on it. Then you have a held back package. That is all.
[21:21] <ompaul> choudesh, if you know the requested standard of behaviour why transgress?
[21:21] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: you did it using the link i posted?  also you have to learn the syntax for the apt-get --download-only command
[21:21] <ejer> right you are choudesh
[21:21] <ubuntu_> Can someone help me set up a windows/ubuntu dual boot?
[21:22] <ubuntu_> I have both installed, but I can only access windows now.
[21:22] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys i am lost
[21:22] <brobostigon> !dualboot | ubuntu_
[21:22] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[21:22] <choudesh> ompaul, what rules am I disregarding?
[21:22] <norml_advocat1> the command is just giving me a bunch of option thingys
[21:22] <IndyGunFreak> ^CatMan^: ok, well, then you need to reconfigure xorg.conf using generic defaults, then when you get back to X, work on the driver install... run this command... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:22] <ompaul> choudesh, your comment if anyone ubotu languages me ....
[21:22] <IndyGunFreak> ^CatMan^: like i said, use generics.. don't worry about wether things are perfect, get back to the GUI first
[21:22] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys i dont know the syntax
[21:23] <gatestone> ubuntu_, you could try just grub-install /dev/hda or whatever. But that's risky.
[21:23] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: ok if you do the first part of what is in that link, you generate a list of your installed packages that gets saved to a file called "installledpackages"
[21:23] <choudesh> ompaul, heh. Long story. Thought willis or lj would have seen that.
[21:23] <^CatMan^> i just ran that one, changing the video card to the nvidia drivers not the nv like the website said
[21:23] <choudesh> ompaul, sorry.
[21:23] <ompaul> !grub | ubuntu_
[21:23] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:23] <^CatMan^> go back to the nv?
[21:23] <ubuntu_> But I already have windows and ubuntu installed
[21:23] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys where is it saved?
[21:23] <ubuntu_> I installed ubuntu first, made a partition, put windows on that, but now I can't access my ubuntu partition!
[21:23] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: in the same folder where you ran the command
[21:23] <IndyGunFreak> ^CatMan^: if you want, but you don't listen well, what part of "generic defaults" do you not get?
[21:23] <ompaul> ubuntu_, check out that ubuntu grub link
[21:24] <aheckler> is there a way to autorun a script when i plug in my external HDD?
[21:24] <ejer> aheckler: put autorun.sh script in root of drive
[21:24] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: most likely in your home, if that is where you are running the command.   find out by typing "pwd"
[21:24] <gatestone> ubuntu_, if you boot to Ubuntu CD, then you can replace the Windows boot loader you have now with Grub.
[21:24] <ubuntu_> gaten, Will that mess up my windows?
[21:24] <spaceninja> how do I automatically mount other hard drive?
[21:24] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: that file is a text file, you can view it
[21:24] <ubuntu_> I mean
[21:25] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys got it
[21:25] <ubuntu_> gatestone, Will that mess up my windows?
[21:25] <MasterShrek> !fstab | spaceninja
[21:25] <ubotu> spaceninja: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[21:25] <ompaul> !grub > ubuntu_ (Read The Message From The Bot, it is how you fix your issues)
[21:25] <spaceninja> I know what fstab is
[21:25] <gatestone> Maybe, hopefully not. It should find your Windows install and put it into boot menu of Grub.
[21:25] <spaceninja> but I want it automatic
[21:25] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys its blank
[21:25] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: ok now you have to do the second part, only instead of installing everything, download everything
[21:25] <ubuntu_> ompaul, The one you listed?
[21:25] <spaceninja> no fstab, just auto
[21:25] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: oh
[21:25] <choudesh> spaceninja, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566759
[21:25] <norml_advocat1> poooo
[21:25] <brobostigon> ubuntu_: no it wont harm windows, only the boot loader in the mbr will be able to boot both linux and windows,
[21:25] <ompaul> ubuntu_, there is a private message from ubotu it tells you how to recover from your current situation
[21:26] <Ayabara> is there a way I can make the title-bar of my windows smaller? is that done just by downloading a different theme?
[21:26] <aheckler> ejer: and make sure the box is checked in the Removable Drives and Media box thing?
[21:26] <zorce> hey, a quick question, is it okay to write protect xorg? cos ubuntu is reseting it
[21:26] <sheva> someone tell me the command to join a server of my choice
[21:26] <gatestone> ubuntu_, in worst case you get Windows master boot record back with Windows intall disks, recovery mode, "fixmbr"
[21:26] <ejer> aheckler: you may need to set the exec flag on mount, this is a security feature... google it, that is where i found it
[21:26] <ubuntu_> thanks ompaul and gatestone
[21:26] <ubuntu_> hopefully this will work
[21:27] <norml_advocat1> ejer how do i get aptoncd to recognize installed packs?
[21:27] <aheckler> ejer: alrighty, thanks
[21:27] <ejer> i don't know what that is or why you would use it norml_advocat1
[21:27] <gatestone> ubuntu_, try it and tell use then
[21:27] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: get rid of the equal sign in that command, try it
[21:27] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: and then view the file
[21:28] <norml_advocat1> ejer aptoncd burns downloaded packages to cd. but i autocleaned my cache.  now it wont find my packs
[21:28] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys ok
[21:28] <ejer> norml_advocat1: start over?
[21:28] <Dirty\monkey> evening all
[21:28] <NeedHelpPlz> hello can someone help me plz? :x
[21:28] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys you did it!
[21:28] <ejer> and there is not that much point in doing that norml_advocat1 since packages change pretty often, better to keep a list of installed apps
[21:28] <Ayabara> is there a way to adjust the text size of my title bar?
[21:28] <Dirty\monkey> can i enable remote desktop via. ssh?
[21:29] <ompaul> !vnc | Dirty\monkey
[21:29] <ejer> Dirty\monkey: use x11vnc
[21:29] <ubotu> Dirty\monkey: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[21:29] <NeedHelpPlz> i need help with an ultra noob question :x
[21:29] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: ok now you to do the second part, but substitute the final "aptitude install" with the command to just download the stuff
[21:29] <IndyGunFreak> NeedHelpPlz: well, we aren't mind readers
[21:29] <Dirty\monkey> the problem i have is that i can only access my VPS via SSH
[21:29] <ejer> Ayabara: system>prefs>appearance ?
[21:29] <ompaul> Dirty\monkey, the item I pointed you at can help you
[21:29] <NeedHelpPlz> ok..i just got the cd with ubuntu in my laptop.i booted from cd and the screen of my laptop is like it has problem
[21:30] <Dirty\monkey> thanks ompaul i'll take a look right now
[21:30] <NeedHelpPlz> i cant see anything its trumbling
[21:30] <absalom> hello, Im ptrying to play an avi but both mplayer and kaffeine refuses. I have downloaded some "extra-pack" full of stuff to listen to mp3s for example. WHat could be the problem?
[21:30] <ubuntu_> ompaul, Ok, I'm confused if you are still there
[21:30] <gatestone> Dirty\monkey, you can also run xinit, then ssh to your box with X forwarding on, then run gnome-session
[21:30] <absalom> s there a g-spot for ubuntu?
[21:30] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: also substitute "aptitude" with "apt-get" if that is the way you've been installing things
[21:30] <ubuntu_> ompaul, When I hit "tab" it doesn't return anything like it tells me I should return
[21:30] <IndyGunFreak> NeedHelpPlz: trumbling?
[21:30] <ubuntu_> absalom, ew.
[21:30] <Ayabara> ejer: of course.. thanks :-)
[21:30] <NeedHelpPlz> wait to find the correct word.i am from greece sorry for my english :x
[21:30] <ompaul> absalom, f-spot ?
[21:30] <Ayabara> do the default dpi setting work out for you guys, or have you changed it?
[21:31] <ompaul> !gr | NeedHelpPlz
[21:31] <ubotu> NeedHelpPlz: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[21:31] <ejer> NeedHelpPlz: you could try restarting graphics with ctrl-alt-backspace
[21:31] <absalom> no, g-spot, the app to see what codecs a video is using
[21:31] <ejer> absalom: mplayer -identify
[21:31] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: it will probably be cat installedpackages | xargs sudo apt-get --download-only
[21:32] <ompaul> ubuntu_, you may have done more damage like installed windows over ubuntu completely
[21:32] <ejer> norml_advocat1: sudo dpkg -l
[21:32] <ejer> oh sorry
[21:32] <ejer> thought you were just trying to list packages
[21:32] <ubuntu_> ompaul, No, I am sure ubuntu is still there.  A) my partition editors tell me that I still have my original partition and the files are still there B) I can access the original files
[21:32] <ompaul> ubuntu_, check this part of that page:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d3
[21:32] <prince_jammys> ejer he has a list already, need to pipe the output to apt-get and only download them, no install
[21:33] <ubuntu_> ompaul, Actually, I just followed that previous link you gave me, and it seemed like it worked in the terminal
[21:33] <Gr1> I'm having troubles viewing my music files (ogg) in the music folders to which they belong, I've been using rhythmbox and I can add the folders and the song are detected but when I attempt to browse them the winow stops responding and no files are shown. Ideas, please?
[21:33] <GodlikeGr> ejer the prob is that i didnt install it yet
[21:33] <ubuntu_> ompaul, So if it doesn't work, I'll be back.  Thanks for your help.  Gotta go reboot.
[21:33] <prince_jammys> not sure if this is then just apt-get --download-only  <package-names>
[21:33] <ompaul> ubuntu_, it is a section in that page -- check that in full
[21:33] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys when I typed xargs sudo apt-get --download-only it didnt do anything
[21:34] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: all one line?
[21:34] <norml_advocat1> yeah?
[21:34] <choudesh> norml_advocat1, you must give it a package
[21:34] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: cat blablbala .....xargs  all on one line
[21:34] <nickrud> prince_jammys: dpkg -l | cut --delimiter=" " --field=3 gives the list of installed packages
[21:34] <norml_advocat1> i just copied and pasted
[21:34] <prince_jammys> nickrud: he already has a list
[21:34] <Gr1> I'm having troubles viewing my music files (ogg) in the music folders to which they belong, I've been using rhythmbox and I can add the folders and the song are detected but when I attempt to browse them the winow stops responding and no files are shown. Ideas, please?
[21:35] <nickrud> prince_jammys: ah. Late again ;)
[21:35] <szbalazs> hi all, can I find ubuntu manual with commands anywhere on the net?
[21:35] <Dirty\monkey> newbie question but what 'editor' should i use?
[21:35] <nickrud> !training | szbalazs
[21:35] <ubotu> szbalazs: A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[21:35] <ejer> norml_advocat1: for i in `dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}'`;do sudo apt-get install -d "$i";done
[21:35] <norml_advocat1> prince_jammys it says e: invalid operation abuse
[21:35] <gaten> Dirty\monkey: text editor? for the command line nano is good, and if you want a gui try gedit
[21:35]  * nickrud always thought awk is something a bird does
[21:35] <siGGi> anyone here who can help me installing vice city in latest wine Oo
[21:36] <Dirty\monkey> thanks gaten
[21:36] <prince_jammys> the list is already assembled, lol
[21:36] <fezick> what music player do experienced ubuntuvians prefer to use?
[21:36] <prince_jammys> just need to download the packages, no install required
[21:36] <szbalazs> ok, thanks, ubotu. Is it good for a rookie?
[21:36] <nickrud> norml_advocat1: one quick question: have you increased the apt archive cache size yet? If not, it'll max out at 500mb
[21:36] <Dirty\monkey> is nano installed by default?
[21:36] <Gr1> I'm having troubles viewing my music files (ogg) in the music folders to which they belong, I've been using rhythmbox and I can add the folders and the song are detected but when I attempt to browse them the winow stops responding and no files are shown. Ideas, please?
[21:37] <absalom> Hmm, mplayer wasnt able to play it either ... :(  its the latest prison break episode.. it gotta be a regular codec.
[21:37] <prince_jammys> cat installedpackages | xargs sudo <whatever the command is to download>
[21:37] <norml_advocat1> nickrud i just did what you said and its d-loading and installiing stuff
[21:37] <norml_advocat1> including some kdelibs
[21:37] <ejer> absalom: install w32codecs from medibuntu
[21:37] <nickrud> norml_advocat1: nothing I said would install stuff ...
[21:37] <norml_advocat1> it is
[21:37] <gatestone>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[21:37] <norml_advocat1> for i in `dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}'`;do sudo apt-get install -d "$i";done
[21:37] <nickrud> norml_advocat1: that was eger
[21:37] <ejer> ya that doesn't quite work actually
[21:38] <norml_advocat1> ejer quite work?
[21:38] <norml_advocat1> ur killin me
[21:38] <absalom> ejer: I think its installed allready, how do I find out?
[21:38] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: well, that should work too norml_advocat1
[21:38] <norml_advocat1> were about to find out
[21:38] <ejer> apt will not download already installed packages
[21:38] <darko_miloshevic> Hello.
[21:39] <prince_jammys> ah
[21:39] <darko_miloshevic> My name is Darko Miloshevich, and I came from Belgrade - Serbia.
[21:39] <danbhfive> absalom: have you tried totem?
[21:39] <TurtleOfDoom> darko_miloshevic: hi
[21:39] <siGGi> hi
[21:39] <norml_advocat1> i think its installing everything AGAIN
[21:39] <darko_miloshevic> How I am visually impaired computer user, I have troubles to start my Version Linux Ubuntu 7 from CD.
[21:39] <nickrud> ejer: and, looking at yours and mine, we forgot to screen for ^ii
[21:39] <cached> "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[21:40] <absalom> ejer: "w32codecs is already the newest version." :s
[21:40] <Dirty\monkey> sorry can someone confirm the command to edit the following file via nano (edit the the /etc/vnc.conf file with sudo, and your preferred editor)
[21:41] <prince_jammys> >
[21:41] <prince_jammys> ?
[21:41] <pipino> can i change the brightness of ubuntu somewhere? i appears very dark after start up, but do not wanna rejust it with hardware buttons.
[21:41] <prince_jammys> to edit with nano ::   sudo nano /etc/vnc.conf
[21:42] <brobostigon> vlc and audacious are media players that have served me well
[21:42] <darko_miloshevic> I have downloaded ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso from:http://www.ubuntu.com, and I have Lenovo Laptop on 512 MB of RAM, Procesor Intel (R) Celeron (R) CPU 530 1.73 GHZ.
[21:42] <Dirty\monkey> thanks
[21:42] <julle_> if i want to watch HD trailers on apple.com/trailers, which plugin is the best suited?
[21:42] <IamReck> Anyone noticed that Firefox 2.0.0.12 is slower then previous versions?
[21:42] <Dirty\monkey> command not found i gues my isp has not installed nano?
[21:42] <theAtom> i run Ubuntu from external HDD. And it shows my interntal HDD D: partition but not C:  How I get it to show C: as well?
[21:42] <prince_jammys> Dirty\monkey: save with Ctrl X
[21:43] <Odd-rationale> Dirty\monkey: You can see if you have nano with: nano
[21:43] <darko_miloshevic> As sound card I have integrated Realtek High Definition Audio, and when I want to boot ubuntu from CD with Screen Reading Orka support, ubuntu works correct, but I could not hear anything from my speakers.
[21:43] <darko_miloshevic> Where is a problem?
[21:43] <TurtleOfDoom> Odd-rationale: I'd prefer "which nano"
[21:43] <prince_jammys> :)
[21:43] <Dirty\monkey> command not found, is there ano. editor i can try?
[21:44] <Odd-rationale> Dirty\monkey: vi
[21:44] <theAtom> any1?
[21:44] <ejer> Dirty\monkey: sudo vim /etc/file
[21:44] <prince_jammys> Dirty\monkey: gksudo gedit /etc/blahblah
[21:44] <prince_jammys> oh, it cant be GUI
[21:44] <gatestone> irty\monkey, try "aptitude isntall nano" first
[21:44] <darko_miloshevic> Can anyone help me?
[21:44] <Dirty\monkey> how do i exit vi?
[21:45] <TurtleOfDoom> Dirty\monkey: vi will be on any machine, but you'll probably want to find a tutorial for it on the internet first, most people aren't used to it's quirks
[21:45] <TurtleOfDoom> type :q
[21:45] <TurtleOfDoom> to exit
[21:45] <gatestone> irty\monkey, I told you to try "aptitude install nano"
[21:45] <darko_miloshevic> Hello.
[21:45] <darko_miloshevic> Can anyone help me?
[21:45] <gatestone> Dirty\monkey, I told you to try "aptitude install nano", vim sucks
[21:45] <prince_jammys> hello
[21:45] <Dirty\monkey> was trying to exit vi gatestone :)
[21:45] <TurtleOfDoom> gatestone: don't start a flamewar here :P
[21:46] <darko_miloshevic> I have downloaded ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso from:http://www.ubuntu.com, and I have Lenovo Laptop on 512 MB of RAM, Procesor Intel (R) Celeron (R) CPU 530 1.73 GHZ.
[21:46] <prince_jammys> darko_miloshevic: what is the question?
[21:46] <darko_miloshevic> Question is:
[21:46] <Dirty\monkey> dam linux terminal is all new to me
[21:46] <TurtleOfDoom> prince_jammys: his screen reader and sound card are not working
[21:46] <prince_jammys> ah
[21:46] <gatestone> Dirty\monkey, though I don't see how you don't have nano. Are you riunning Ubuntu?
[21:47] <darko_miloshevic> When I try to boot ubuntu from cd on my laptop as visually impaired user with Screen Reading support from accessibility menu, I could not hear anything from my speakers, and I have Realtek High Definition Audio as my integrated sound card.
[21:47] <Dirty\monkey> its running on my isp and coz im new to terminal i might as well have my arms cut off ;0
[21:48] <gatestone> Anyways, try "aptitude install nano" or "apt-get install nano" if they install it.
[21:48] <darko_miloshevic> After starting, ubuntu works on my laptop, b ut I can not hear the sound, where is the problem?
[21:48] <gatestone> or "yum install nano"
[21:48] <TurtleOfDoom> gatestone: that won't work, i doubt he's root
[21:49] <prince_jammys> maybe these gents can help you with vi then
[21:49] <TurtleOfDoom> Dirty\monkey: try typing "which pico"
[21:49] <darko_miloshevic> Interface is shown on the screen, but I can not hear voice of my Screen reader from speakers, and I can not hear any sound.
[21:50] <sixpence> VLC when I try to play a dvd outputs  [00000281] main playlist: nothing to play
[21:50] <darko_miloshevic> Can anyone give me answer and how to correct my problem?
[21:50] <gatestone> darko_miloshevic, unfortunately sound problems are difficult on Linux
[21:50] <TurtleOfDoom> darko_miloshevic: sorry, no idea
[21:50] <darko_miloshevic> I am currently away. Reason: "" E-mail: darko.pogacic@gmail.com Left At: Thursday 31 January 2008 - 4:57 AM (tIRC away system)
[21:51] <Dirty\monkey> aptitude isntall nano DIDNT WORK
[21:51] <Dirty\monkey> sorry for shouting
[21:51] <ejer> darko_miloshevic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[21:51] <d90_> darko_miloshevic, kakav problem imas
[21:51] <darko_miloshevic> Can be problem with my sound card and compatibility with ubuntu?
[21:51] <Dirty\monkey> comans not found
[21:51] <Dirty\monkey> crap i cent even type
[21:51] <TurtleOfDoom> Dirty\monkey: if you want to learn vi: http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html#simple should let you get started fairly quickly
[21:52] <Dirty\monkey> im off to find a tutorial before i piss u all off
[21:52] <dimedo> hi there, does anyone know a mouse macro scripting tool for xserver?
[21:52] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Dirty\monkey
[21:52] <ubotu> Dirty\monkey: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:52] <gidna> what is sdl_mixer?
[21:52] <Dirty\monkey> doh!
[21:52] <gatestone> Dirty\monkey, just try "vimtutor" first
[21:52] <spartano> ciao a tutti
[21:54] <kbrooks> Please do not think that if you login using SSL, you're safe. On the contrary: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/02/howto-sniff-or-hack-someones-username.html
[21:54] <xrestassuredx> how do i change the line in /etc/fstab to automatically mount a cd drive with 'unhide'
[21:55] <kbrooks> ok PriceChild
[21:55] <noodlesgc> can anyone recommend a good free book to learn perl?
[21:55] <blitzkrieg3> does anyone know of a command that will execute a command n times?
[21:55] <ompaul> kbrooks, ehh there are ways to be alerted to that - go check out how ssh works and alerts users to such vicious attacks
[21:55] <prince_jammys> noodlesgc: get perl-doc
[21:56] <TurtleOfDoom> noodlesgc: http://www.perl.org/books/beginning-perl/
[21:56] <kbrooks> ompaul, SSL, not SSH
[21:56] <prince_jammys> noodlesgc: sudo apt-get install perl-doc-html
[21:56] <keito> I'm having trouble with TeeWars and other games when trying to connect to a server X freezes and I have to reset with ctrl+alt+bkspc... is this a firewall issue and do I need to install something like friestarter first and allow the game to connect by editing iptables?
[21:57]  * keito means firestarter
[21:57] <noodlesgc> thanks guys
[21:57] <prince_jammys> noodlesgc: then in a web browser::  /usr/share/doc/perl-doc-html/html/index.html
[21:58] <norml_advocat1> for i in `dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}'`;do sudo apt-get install -d "$i";done  when I typed that it started installing lotsa stuff.  and its taking FOREVOR what goin on?
[21:58] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: exactly what you think
[21:58] <mad_max02> anyone knows is UT3 linux installer is out yet ??
[21:58] <norml_advocat1> what is it installin?
[21:58] <noodlesgc> thanks so much thats exactly what i was looking for
[21:59] <keito> mad_max02: not as far as I'm aware (sighs)
[21:59] <prince_jammys> noodlesgc: it's an excellent resource
[21:59] <mad_max02> damn
[21:59] <keito> indeed
[21:59] <mad_max02> stii aegia delaying ?
[21:59] <keito> yes
[21:59] <norml_advocat1> What does     for i in `dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}'`;do sudo apt-get install -d "$i";done   Install?
[22:00] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, are you still there
[22:00] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: my guess is everything
[22:00] <norml_advocat1> everything as in EVERYTHING?
[22:00] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: yaha
[22:00] <norml_advocat1> that is just rediculous
[22:00] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: but my guess could be wrong
[22:00] <norml_advocat1> this was ejers idea
[22:00] <norml_advocat1> ejer are you there?
[22:01] <kbrooks> prince_jammys, you are right
[22:01] <ompaul> ubuntu_1, not 100% sure
[22:01] <TurtleOfDoom> norml_advocat1: It looks like it installs everyhing to me
[22:01] <kbrooks> norml_advocat1, but he's wrong
[22:01] <kbrooks> TurtleOfDoom, doesnt
[22:01] <kbrooks> notice -d
[22:01] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, You aren't 100% sure if you're there?
[22:01] <TurtleOfDoom> aww, nmn
[22:01] <kbrooks> that means --download-only
[22:01] <mad_max02> guys I just gotta share one information with all of you
[22:01] <TurtleOfDoom> it downloads everyhing
[22:01] <norml_advocat1> so i am downloading everything?
[22:01] <ompaul> ubuntu_1, correct
[22:01] <ejer> it does not work norml_advocat1 sorry, don't get the issue
[22:01] <prince_jammys> kbrooks: yes, that was the initial idea
[22:01] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, Well, do you remember me
[22:02] <norml_advocat1> it is working
[22:02] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: isnt that what you wanted to do?
[22:02] <ompaul> ubuntu_1, more than likely
[22:02] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, You directed me to recovering ubuntu help file.
[22:02] <norml_advocat1> not EVERYTHING
[22:02] <prince_jammys> norml_advocat1: that was the whole point
[22:02] <keito> mad_max02: ...
[22:02] <norml_advocat1> just what I was using
[22:02] <mad_max02> from late last night I totally crossed into linux realm
[22:02] <kbrooks> mad_max02, OK.
[22:02] <mad_max02> I finished converting over 2TB of HDDs to ext3
[22:02] <keito> congrats
[22:02] <norml_advocat1> ok i just closed the terminal
[22:02] <ompaul> ubuntu_1, you should ask the channel and then see what happens to be honest I am involved in three other discussions :)
[22:02] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, so I can install grub
[22:02] <d90_> mad_max02, ;)
[22:02] <mad_max02> no more stinker win on my machine :D
[22:02] <norml_advocat1> im gonna explode from frustration
[22:02] <ompaul> ubuntu_1, that link works as far as I know
[22:02] <prince_jammys> sorry
[22:02] <norml_advocat1> oggabogga
[22:03] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, Well, now when I click  ubuntu it says something like "error 22 no partition"
[22:03] <mad_max02> and there is something funny about it all
[22:03] <mad_max02> I FEEL GREAT
[22:03] <norml_advocat1> So here is what I want to do
[22:03] <keito> whats about reiserfs?! mad_max02
[22:03] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, It won't recognize my ubuntu partition, only my windows one
[22:03]  * keito dreams once more of ZFS
[22:03] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, Should I just reinstall ubuntu :(
[22:03] <mad_max02> keito, I thought much about linux FS and I decided I'll go for old reliable ext path
[22:03] <norml_advocat1> I want to reinstall ubuntustudio, with my codecs, and a few apps that I use and especially fwcutter 43xx
[22:04] <norml_advocat1> so i guess Ill just start from scratch
[22:04] <keito> mad_max02: fairplay. i did exactly what you have just done a while back now. no more win for me
[22:04] <ompaul> ubuntu_1, well you would have it installed twice over for the time spent on irc ;-)   note the correct order is windows - then ubuntu
[22:04] <ubuntu_1> oh :(
[22:04] <mad_max02> THANK GOD FOR THAT
[22:04] <mad_max02> one more thing
[22:04] <ubuntu_1> ompaul, Well, I'll try it again... I don't really wanna reset all my settings though
[22:04] <mad_max02> keito, I learned much stuff only trying to get all the things working :D
[22:04] <wawawewa> hello to everyone
[22:05] <luisgmarine_> Hello I got 2 hard drives on my laptop, and I want to use the second one for music and movies, but for some reason i cant save anything to it.  Like I can't access it unless I manually mount it, anyway to fix this?  Like how do I get that extra HDD to be my media drive?
[22:05] <keito> mad_max02: its a steep learning curve but it's well worth it
[22:05] <Ximal> is there a way to get ubuntu to use the ethernet adapter inside the ps3 ?
[22:05] <mad_max02> Linux still aint "out of the box" system but you shure can have much fun setting it up
[22:05] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine what kind of filesystem is the second drive?
[22:05] <mrcheeks> Hello guys I have an issue with exim4, I cannot upgrade it , there is a file called exim4 in etc which I can not delete. I get the following message rm: cannot remove `/etc/exim4': Invalid argument
[22:06] <keito> luisgmarine_: you need to add it to your fstab
[22:06] <n00dle> Has anyone got a bluetooth headset to work with ubuntu? (Motorola H500, ubuntu 7.04)
[22:06] <mad_max02> I even played CnC3 TW in lan with my friends :D
[22:06] <keito> !fstab | keito
[22:06] <mad_max02> I dont game much but I just did it to show them that their Vista sh*t sucks
[22:06] <mad_max02> excuse my language :D
[22:06] <luisgmarine_> keito, will this allow me to make folders in that drive?  Like have seperate folders for music and movies and such things?
[22:06] <faileas> mad_max02: depends on the box ;p
[22:06] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine yes
[22:07] <keito> luisgmarine_: what filesystem is it
[22:07] <mad_max02> faileas, well I have even better box then the rest of them :D
[22:07] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine where is it currently mounted?
[22:07] <danbhfive> my virtual os installation is having trouble connecting to the net.  It says it dhcps fine, but it can't connect to archive.ubuntu.com
[22:07] <faileas> mad_max02: my old thinkpad took one tweak ;p
[22:08] <luisgmarine_> keito, reisferfs
[22:08] <mad_max02> faileas, hehe :D
[22:08] <TurtleOfDoom> danbhfive: did you try ping yahoo.com?
[22:08] <mad_max02> anyways I'm off
[22:08] <mad_max02> gotta hit the shower
[22:08] <mad_max02> laters
[22:08] <keito> you need to probably set permissions too?
[22:08] <danbhfive> TurtleOfDoom: unfortunately, ping aint installed yet
[22:08] <bartmon> Hey again. I want to run a lightweight HTTP file listing server called webfsd. In the man page it says "Webfsd will
[22:08] <keito> !fstab | luisgmarine_
[22:08] <bartmon>        serve any regular file and provide listings for  any  directory  it  is
[22:08] <bartmon>        able to open(2)." I don't know what this means.
[22:08] <ubotu> luisgmarine_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[22:09] <TurtleOfDoom> no ping, that's interesting
[22:09]  * AtomicSpark shivers at bad grammer
[22:09] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine sorry, i have no experience with reiserfs  mount options
[22:09] <luisgmarine_> keito I dont think so.  When I installed Ubuntu I just asked the ubuntu partitioner to wipe the hdd clean and install the reisferfs on it
[22:09] <TurtleOfDoom> do you have wget installed?
[22:09] <brobostigon> danbhfive: ping is always installed
[22:09] <danbhfive> TurtleOfDoom: you know what, I'm trying to do a netinstall.  Maybe I should just download the disk, so nvm
[22:09] <keito> !reiserfs | luisgmarine_
[22:09] <ubotu> luisgmarine_: reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
[22:09] <TurtleOfDoom> ah, netinstall that expalins it
[22:09] <Ximal> anyone ?
[22:10] <n00dle> Anyone using a bluetooth headset with ubuntu?
[22:10] <shingouz> ideas on why a fresh gutsy does not want to ifup eth0 automagically when hotplugging the pcmcia. interfaces has "allow-hotplug eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[22:10] <danbhfive> brobostigon: is ping installed before a netinstall has started? and I drop to a terminal?  it says ping is a bad command, but I do have route  :p
[22:10] <luisgmarine_> I can reinstall if its that big of a problem
[22:10] <TurtleOfDoom> dan, try which ping
[22:10] <luisgmarine_> I think I just might re-install
[22:10] <brobostigon> danbhfive: never used netinstall, so no idea
[22:10] <keito> luisgmarine_: have you checked you fstab to make sure it is there, that will automount your drive and tell the system whether you can write to it or whether its read only
[22:11] <keito> luisgmarine_: all the insfo should be there
[22:11] <TurtleOfDoom> danbhfive: maybe try "lynx yahoo.com?
[22:11] <keito> luisgmarine_: you will not need to re-install
[22:11] <danbhfive> hey guys, i retract the question, im just gona do a different install, its not worth it
[22:11] <TurtleOfDoom> danbhfive: that would be my suggestion
[22:11] <keito> luisgmarine_: that would be a waste of your valuable time ;)
[22:11] <Ximal> My playstation 3 ubuntu install isn't noticing the network adapter... would someone explain to mehow to download/configure such drivers, pls ?
[22:11]  * Ttech is away: Bimbling
[22:12] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: i dont think reinstalling is necessary
[22:12] <luisgmarine_> keito it doesn't look like its there
[22:12] <danbhfive> TurtleOfDoom: both lynx and which are not found
[22:12] <danbhfive> :p
[22:12] <TurtleOfDoom> danbhfive: then you can't be helped :P
[22:12] <squarebracket> is there a way to log out of a session remotely?
[22:12] <luisgmarine_> It just has the / , /home/ and swap.  Then an entry for my cdrom
[22:12] <brobostigon> ximal: 1st) run dmesg and then lshw, and see if its recognized
[22:12] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_:   do " sudo fdisk -l"  and see any reiserfs devices
[22:12]  * Ttech is back (gone 00:00:06)
[22:12] <keito> luisgmarine_:  well thats why then sonny, read the note ubotu left you above regarding fstab and follow the guide
[22:12] <squarebracket> i didn't log out of my computer when i left, and i want to close the session
[22:12] <Ximal> ok brbrobostigon
[22:13] <luca007> scusate nessuno ha mai usato freenas
[22:13] <bartmon> Argh, I'll just ask the whole deal: How can I set up a server which would serve files from a smb network of the local machine? Right now I'm using webfs for the server and smbnetfs to mount the samba network into a folder but webfsd won't display anything in that folder. It displays "regular" folder contents.
[22:13] <AntiUSA> HEEEEEEEELPPPP!!!! I've chosen a display resolution that my monitor doesn't support!
[22:13] <brobostigon> ximal: ifconfig too
[22:13] <ompaul> !away | Ttech
[22:13] <ubotu> Ttech: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[22:13] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_:  note the /dev/blah part if it's there
[22:13] <AntiUSA> how do I fix my resolution
[22:14] <Ttech> ompaul,  I know!
[22:14] <ompaul> !resolution | AntiSpamMeta
[22:14] <ubotu> AntiSpamMeta: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:14] <Ttech> ompaul,  Its not supposed to be on at all
[22:14] <squarebracket> AntiUSA: you'd have to edit xorg.conf file, i think
[22:14] <Ttech> In any channel
[22:14] <bartmon> AntiUSA: you have to edit a file /etc/X1/xorg.conf
[22:14] <keito> AntiUSA: ctrl+alt+f2 then nano into your xorg.conf and chage from there
[22:14] <FXRS> AntiUSA, nice name......
[22:14] <ompaul> !resolution | AntiUSA
[22:14] <ubotu> AntiUSA: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:14] <AntiUSA> haha, thanks guys
[22:14] <keito> should be AntiBush though as not all americans are like him
[22:15] <keito> anyway I digress
[22:15] <Ximal> it says from lshw network DISABLED and descript is ethernet interface .. physical id 2 ... log name eth0 ... serial is mac address and config is broadcast yes... any clue ?
[22:15] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: I see the /dev/sda for my first hdd, and /dev/sdb for my second one
[22:15] <bartmon> help me! :)
[22:15] <FXRS> I would go with AntiBush. lol
[22:15] <FXRS> even though I voted for him twice. :(
[22:15] <keito> wha!!!
[22:15] <IndyGunFreak> i'd go with Dumbhippyliberal
[22:15]  * keito hopes FXRS learnt his lesson... 
[22:15] <wad> How do I figure out what sound hardware I have on my ubuntu laptop? (My sound isn't working well, so I'm gonig to tackle this problem, and hopefully learn more about linux along the way)
[22:15] <brobostigon> ximal: can you pastebin the output from lshw, dmesg and ifconfig??
[22:15] <TurtleOfDoom> uh, guys, horribly off-topic
[22:16] <squarebracket> FXRS: sounds like you're about as smart as him, then ;)
[22:16] <mrcheeks> Can someone help I had troubles with my last exim4 upgrade it looks like broken. I can't uninstall or reinstall it http://pastebin.ca/911750
[22:16] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_:  sdb is the one you want?
[22:16] <Ximal> not if i'm nto onthe net.. heh
[22:16] <AntiUSA> well I'm not trying to take this channel off topic but I think the US imperialism runs deeper than Bush, even though Bush is a monster that needs to be stopped
[22:16] <bartmon> wad: try running lspci in a terminal
[22:16] <keito> TurtleOfDoom: agreed
[22:16] <kostkon> wad, open terminal and do "lspci"
[22:16] <wad> bartmon, thanks!
[22:16] <FXRS> lol. Well I would have voted for Ron Paul this time but don't look like he is going to make it. :(
[22:16] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: you need the whole device file /dev/whatever
[22:16] <freeman163> how do i enable watching of DVDs? i cant get it to work normally
[22:16] <AntiUSA> Obama will continue war
[22:16] <brobostigon> :-(
[22:16] <TurtleOfDoom> !ot
[22:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:16] <Bad_boy> hi guys, I have a little problem, I am a newbie. I have added dictionoary on my panel, it used to work, now it has stopped, I can't type in the empty. It works, when only when open office is opened and running. any idea?.
[22:17] <kostkon> wad, what do you type by saying that your sound is not working well?
[22:17] <AntiUSA> sorry for the OT
[22:17] <prince_jammys> lol
[22:17] <brobostigon> !dvd | freeman163
[22:17] <ubotu> freeman163: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:17] <freeman163> thanks
[22:17] <RedHeron> AntiUSA: Obama will end the war within 16 months, and his first order of business (as he's said REPEATEDLY) is to order the JCOS to work on a safe withdrawal.
[22:17] <prince_jammys> let's deal with the big problems here, like fixing your screen resolution ;)
[22:18] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: yes /dev/sdb is the one I want
[22:18] <bartmon> mine is bigger
[22:18] <bartmon> (the prblem)
[22:18] <bartmon> :P
[22:18] <hon> is it possible to invert colors in a pdf/ps document when viewed in evince?
[22:18] <brobostigon> drop the politics everyone, please.
[22:18] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: no number?
[22:18] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: just read the fstab stuff on how to add it on boot?
[22:18] <Bad_boy> guys what the command for re-installing dictionary
[22:18] <FXRS> Hey does #ubuntu have a ot channel like Mint Linux has mint cafe?
[22:18] <TurtleOfDoom> #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:18] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys, yes sorry 1.  /dev/sdb1
[22:19] <Ximal> I think I need the restricted drivers module ending in -cell
[22:19] <Ximal> can I get that off the live cd ?
[22:19] <keito> luisgmarine_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100177
[22:19] <keito> luisgmarine_: that is a guide
[22:19] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: check this for a sample, deals with reiserfs ::: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100177
[22:19] <keito> prince_jammys: snap
[22:19] <hon> is hardy going to be shipped with a dark gtk theme?
[22:19] <prince_jammys> hah
[22:19] <FXRS> Oh great they are talking linux in there too. lmao
[22:19] <prince_jammys> jinx
[22:19] <wad> kostkon, well, the buttons to turn the sound up and down don't do anything. There is a "kmix" thinie on the desktop, which has a volume slider. It doesn't have any effect whatsoever.
[22:19] <keito> prince_jammys: .........................................
[22:20] <kostkon> wad, kubuntu?
[22:20] <prince_jammys> keito: i should look up before hitting enter
[22:20] <shingouz> how to make a pcmcia eth ifup automagically? interfaces already has "allow-hotplug eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp" but just plugging in the card does not make anything happen, it needs a manual ifup
[22:20] <keito> I'm having trouble with TeeWars and other games when trying to connect to a server X freezes and I have to reset with ctrl+alt+bkspc... is this a firewall issue and do I need to install something like friestarter first and allow the game to connect by editing iptables?
[22:20] <prince_jammys> keito: we must have the same google style
[22:20] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: ok thanks, I'm looking at it right now ,and I'll post back if I run into something else, thanks for the help :)
[22:20] <keito> ;0)
[22:20] <ph0rensic> hon, Does it matter really.. that is what gnome-look is for right?
[22:21] <wad> kostkon, yeah... I guess I should be over in kubuntu, not here.
[22:21] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: yeah
[22:21] <wad> #kubuntu, rather.
[22:21] <Scunizi> I there a way to add a 4th function to windows in the upper right corner? In addition to x=close, min/max and minimize I'd also like to have "shade" where the window will collapse to just the title bar. Kubuntu has it.. can we gnome users use it to?
[22:21] <keito> luisgmarine_: you're welcome ;)
[22:22] <Ximal> nevermind i got it working
[22:22] <paolob> Hi guys! Anyone have see something like this  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12125369/IMG_1896.JPG  on a 1440x900 lcd monitor? The resolution is 1440x900 as it must be, but a black bar is presented on the left
[22:22] <kostkon> wad, I am asking because I don't know any specifics of kubuntu
[22:22] <Ximal> ihad to configure statically..
[22:22] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, Yes you can shade in gnome
[22:22] <FXRS> luisgmarine_, what are you doing in here?
[22:22] <Ximal> thanks guys
[22:22] <keito> Scunizi: in short yes
[22:22] <joeamined> hi
[22:22]  * wad nods to kostkon 
[22:22] <TurtleOfDoom> !hi joeamined
[22:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi joeamined - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:22] <joeamined> mplayer mozilla plugin behaves strangly
[22:22] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, keito how?
[22:22] <kostkon> wad, :)
[22:23] <joeamined> it opens a lot of new instances of mplayer
[22:23] <joeamined> and they are zombie processes
[22:23] <keito> Scunizi: that I couldn't tell you... some emerald theme have it though
[22:23] <mrcheeks> Hi guys how could I deal with the error mkdir invalid argument?
[22:23] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, Im not sure how to activate it off hand.. I know when I installed a certain emerald theme it was activated.. plus I saw the option available in compiz
[22:23] <Itech> oops
[22:23] <Itech> I forgot to part here
[22:23] <Itech> Sorry
[22:23] <kostkon> wad, do you have sound, in general? the problem is that you cannot control the volume levels, am I right? you could ask at #kubuntu, of course.
[22:23] <prince_jammys> mrcheeks: what is the name of the dir you want to make
[22:24] <pax_tecum> anyone know how to wake up from suspend other than pushing the power button
[22:24] <prince_jammys> mrcheeks: does it have spaces or funny characters
[22:24] <wad> kostkon: I just received stellar help from a fellow in #kubuntu.
[22:24] <Scunizi> keito, ph0rensic thanks.. I'll look at compiz since I have that running.. emerald to.. Isn't that a compiz theme?
[22:24] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys I don't understand the mount thing.
[22:24] <kostkon> wad, oh great! ok!
[22:24] <wad> kostkon, I need to tell the system to use ALSA, instead of autodetect.
[22:24] <mrcheeks> prince_jammys: nope I have trouble with an update of exim4 exim4-config is broken
[22:24] <wad> :-D
[22:24] <prakriti> I just tried to setup ssl on my apache2 server by linking the ssl.* files into mods-enabled
[22:24] <emma> Why can't appache find phpmyadmin when I do a http://localhost/phpmyadmin  it gives me 404 Not Found
[22:24] <keito> Scunizi: its a window decorator
[22:24] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, No emerald is the window decorator
[22:24] <IndyGunFreak> wad: what is your sound device?
[22:25] <mrcheeks> prince_jammys: http://pastebin.ca/911750 here is the log
[22:25] <prakriti> when I try to connect to the https port it gives me an error: error code 12263
[22:25] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: tell me the device name again /dev/...
[22:25] <ste6969> !list
[22:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:25] <kostkon> wad, oh good, it'll just fine then. nice.
[22:25] <kostkon> wad, work*
[22:25] <wad> IndyGunFreak, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:25] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, it is themable and pretty darn nifty.. you should get it if you dont have it
[22:25] <IndyGunFreak> !intelhda | wad have you read thsi...
[22:25] <ubotu> wad have you read thsi...: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:25] <keito> luisgmarine_: did you follow that tutorial?
[22:25] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammy: /dev/sdb1
[22:25] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, thanks..
[22:25] <bartmon> Anyone know how, when searching previous commands in a temrinal with Ctr+L, you can flip through matches?
[22:26] <FXRS> luisgmarine_, Jet2k5?
[22:26] <bartmon> Ctrl+R
[22:26] <junkeR> ubuntu
[22:26] <devilwolf> hi all
[22:26] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, You can find some good emerald themes on gnome-look.org .. I really like the moomex and the KORE one, VISTA-ISH is good too, but there are 2, one of which is broken
[22:26] <IndyGunFreak> wad: is that an acer laptop by chance?
[22:26] <reikalusikka> if ubuntu special effects lag, do I have any hope to run compiz?
[22:26] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammy , I'm trying to.  But when I mount a hard drive, does it have to be mounted to /media?  cant it just be /dev/sdb1/music etc?
[22:26] <luisgmarine_> FXRS: yes its me Jet2k5
[22:26] <ifireball> bartmon: you press ctrl+R again
[22:26] <bartmon> I figured it out :)
[22:26] <wad> IndyGunFreak, it's a Lenovo T61
[22:26] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, I'll take a look..
[22:27] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[22:27] <wad> IndyGunFreak, a thinkpad.
[22:27] <ph0rensic> reikalusikka, not really haha, depends which effects you want to use though
[22:27] <bartmon> ifireball: just figured it out, thanks though!
[22:27] <keito> Scunizi: in the manager it tells you how to use subversion to get alot of the cool themes too
[22:27] <reikalusikka> ph0rensic: ok :p
[22:27] <wad> IndyGunFreak, Thanks for that link! I'm reading it now.
[22:27] <IndyGunFreak> wad: well i have the same sound device, and i got it working pretty easily.
[22:27] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: no, don't mount to /dev  ... mount to  /media/luisfolder or something
[22:27] <ph0rensic> reikalusikka, I wouldn't use the cube effects for sure! Not if your lagging already
[22:27] <reikalusikka> :D
[22:27] <ejer> reikalusikka: ubuntu special effects IS compiz
[22:27] <jeffMASTERflex> bartmon: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/the-definitive-guide-to-bash-command-line-history/
[22:28] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: ah I gotcha.  And then just chmod -R 777 that luisfolder so that all the users on the PC can access it right?
[22:28] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: you will specify first the /dev  and then the mount point as in /media/mydisk
[22:28] <reikalusikka> ejer: oh ok
[22:28] <ph0rensic> reikalusikka, Unless you just don't have the proper graphics drivers yet
[22:28] <reikalusikka> I have
[22:28] <reikalusikka> my pc is just old
[22:28] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: correct, that seems to be it
[22:28] <luisgmarine_> please tell me I'm correct
[22:28] <reikalusikka> geforce 2
[22:28] <reikalusikka> ;D
[22:28] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys : ok thanks I think I got it now
[22:28] <narfu> nabend, jetzt von neuem laptop mit u7.10 ;P
[22:29] <ph0rensic> ejer, technically your right, but I guess I was talking about the settings in ccsm as custom
[22:29] <bartmon> jeffMASTERflex: that's... a lot :) will read through it though
[22:29] <mEck0> Hi! Does a symbian-based smartphone generally sync ok with e.g. Evolution?
[22:29] <ejer> thk u ph0rensic :)
[22:29] <jeffMASTERflex> bartmon: well it does say it is THE definitive guide. lol
[22:30] <patogen> What is a good permission to set for /home and others? Someone fooled me into setting everything to 644 which isn't very good. So i booted up with a recovery cd and set it to 777...
[22:30] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: you will have to create that folder with sudo mkdir /media/folder_name in order to mount it, of course
[22:30] <d90_> is there a linux low level format tool for us disks
[22:30] <ejer> patogen: 644 is correct for files
[22:30] <ejer> 777 is not
[22:30] <d90_> is there a linux low level format tool for usb disks
[22:30] <jeffMASTERflex> d90_: fdisk
[22:30] <patogen> ejer: How come when I did set it to 644 I couldn't do anything?
[22:31] <narfu> eehm ich versuche grade avn zu installieren, habe die anleitung im wiki bevolgt,. allerdings können iwelche packete nicht gelesen werden
[22:31] <prince_jammys> patogen: you couldnt open the folder
[22:31] <patogen> My home should be 644?
[22:31] <ejer> patogen: 644 means only the user who owns the file can write to it
[22:31] <ejer> patogen: directories are usually 755
[22:31] <patogen> Yeah, and someone fooled me into doing this with /
[22:31] <prince_jammys> patogen careful with bulk changing the permissions of your home
[22:31] <patogen> which made me unable to do anything
[22:31] <CVD-PR> hey
[22:31] <ejer> patogen: doing that in / (root) will break the system
[22:32] <ejer> as i guess you found out
[22:32] <patogen> ejer: I noticed it.
[22:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[22:32] <ejer> i don't think there is an easy way to go back
[22:32] <narfu> ums mal etwas preziser zu sagen : http://rafb.net/p/tAU2Ta99.html
[22:32] <narfu> ;)
[22:32] <ejer> 1. beat person who said that 2. reinstall 3. profit
[22:32] <patogen> So what should I set /home and /etc and all others to?  if there is some least worst way
[22:32] <pretts> hi
[22:33] <d90_> jeffMASTERflex, I mean to write all zeros to disk
[22:33] <ejer> patogen: it is not going to be easy, all sorts of different permissions are needed
[22:33] <iowahc> hy there. When I watch a movie in Gutsy with VLC my Xorg is on 82-90% of CPU Usage. Anyone any suggestions what i could be? I hav compiz active and the newest fglrx driver from ATI.
[22:33] <ph0rensic> d90_, that takes forever.. I did it recently
[22:33] <d90_> jeffMASTERflex, fdisk doesnt have this option
[22:33] <prince_jammys> patogen: if you indeed changed those permissions, things are such a mess that reinstalling is not a bad idea
[22:33] <d90_> ph0rensic, jus say it is usb disk of 1GB
[22:33] <patogen> Gah.
[22:33] <pretts> if I delete everything in my $HOME whenever I run some app it will recreate the apropriate files? I mean about everything gnome etc
[22:33] <d90_> ph0rensic, it will no be more than 2hours
[22:34] <patogen> pain :(
[22:34] <ph0rensic> d90_, Oh ok hehe that should take but a about 10 minutes
[22:34] <jeffMASTERflex> d90_: i think wipe will do that for you
[22:34] <ejer> d90_: just reformatting it will wipe everything
[22:34] <magnetron> iowahc: the answer is in your question. ATI's drivers are slow and will use a lot of CPU.
[22:34] <ejer> not securely, but will allow you to use it
[22:35] <ejer> pretts: don't delete everything.... but in general, yes
[22:35] <ejer> backup first pretts
[22:35] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, ok.. I've got emerald installed via synaptic.. and see a theme I'd like to load that is within the default ... how do I do that?
[22:35] <jeffMASTERflex> d90_: wipe is nice in that it writes random data using /dev/urandom
[22:35] <iowahc> magnetron: ok, when I use the open source driver everything should be fine?
[22:35] <ComradeMirror> Hey guys
[22:35] <mrcheeks> How can I deal with that please? ls: cannot access /etc/exim4: Invalid argument
[22:35] <pretts> ejer, I messed up permissions etc that's why I'm asking this :D
[22:35] <prince_jammys> people doing some radical stuff here
[22:35] <ComradeMirror> Does Linux have anything similar to Windows XP's language bar?
[22:36] <patogen> Hmm or wait ... drwxr-xr-x on /etc means? sorry for asking silly questions without looking up first
[22:36] <ComradeMirror> Where I can type japanese on an english keyboard?
[22:36] <magnetron> iowahc: no, the open source driver for ATI is not that good yet either.
[22:36] <d90_> ejer, I need something to hide bad sectors which are root@d90-desktop:/home/d90# fsck.vfat -t -a /dev/sdb1
[22:36] <d90_> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[22:36] <d90_> Cluster 19431 is unreadable.
[22:36] <d90_> Cluster 19432 is unreadable.
[22:36] <d90_> Cluster 19433 is unreadable.
[22:36] <d90_> Cluster 19434 is unreadable.
[22:36] <ejer> that is 755 patogen
[22:36] <FloodBot2> d90_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <patogen> but I really need to use the computer...
[22:36] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, You probably have to type emerald --replace in the terminal to make it your window decorator, then you just click on the theme you want to use within emerald manager
[22:36] <prince_jammys> patogen: who owns it?
[22:36] <Scunizi> ComradeMirror, always wondered what that was for in windows. It use to drive me crazy.
[22:36] <ComradeMirror> Ah
[22:36] <patogen> prince_jammys: root
[22:36] <iowahc> magnetron: wich one shall i use then?
[22:36] <ejer> d90_: afaik this will be done on a reformat
[22:36] <ComradeMirror> Scunizi it allows you to type in different languages on keyboards x.x does Linux have anything like that?
[22:36] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, ah.. so simple yet cryptic.. and if I want to go back to compiz then compiz --replace?
[22:36] <ComradeMirror> Cause I do my japanese homework on my computer
[22:37] <prince_jammys> patogen: thats fine
[22:37] <ComradeMirror> and I don't want to switch between windows and linux for japanese homework
[22:37] <ph0rensic> d90_, I think if you zero the drive that will correct those or atleast hide them
[22:37] <ejer> d90_: http://www.webservertalk.com/message1950145.html
[22:37] <magnetron> iowahc: none of them are really good. i would avoid ATI altogether at the moment.
[22:37] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, No, compiz works with emerald
[22:37] <patogen> prince_jammys: Hmm, only /home seems to be 777 somehow
[22:37] <Scunizi> ComradeMirror, I think you just change the language setting.
[22:37] <prince_jammys> patogen: do  cd /   and then ls -l   and pastebin
[22:37] <iowahc> my first install of gutsy went fine
[22:37] <iowahc> magnetron: with the driver from the CD everything worked fine
[22:38] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, so when I do emerald --replace  what is it replacing (name).. metacity?
[22:38] <iowahc> wich driver are they?
[22:38] <iowahc> magnetron: wich driver are they?
[22:38] <ComradeMirror> Scunizi I don't think it would work that way
[22:38] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, yes afaik
[22:38] <ComradeMirror> That would change my linux writing to japanese too
[22:38] <ComradeMirror> x.x
[22:38] <d90_> I gonna try some of those you advised for formating
[22:38] <magnetron> iowahc: the open source one. but i don-t think the open source one supports compiz
[22:38] <nickrud> ComradeMirror: system->prefs->layouts to enable the keyboard layouts, then right click the panel keyboard indicator
[22:38] <iowahc> magnetron: well they did to me
[22:38] <nickrud> ComradeMirror: add keyboard indicator, that is
[22:39] <ejer> ComradeMirror: system>admin>language support (I think)
[22:39] <magnetron> iowahc: that's great.
[22:39] <root-----> how to run xlock (a comand/app that locks screen) automatically if it has not been runing for the last 30 mins?
[22:39] <iowahc> magnetron: how can I reactivate the old drivers?
[22:39] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, You get it working yet?? There may be a setting in compiz that says allow window decorations.. make sure thats checked
[22:40] <magnetron> iowahc: i don't know. maybe the channel knows, please ask.
[22:40] <ejer> root-----: system>prefs>screensaver in gnome can do this
[22:40] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, just did the terminal thing except when I close the terminal.. all window decorations go away .
[22:40] <root-----> ejer no. xlock is an app
[22:40] <patogen> prince_jammys: Sorry I'm not good enough to do that from that computer. But all have drwxr-xr-x owned by root, except home that is drwxrwxrwx owned by root
[22:40] <ArmedKing> Hello all maby a bit off topic. But i just got out of the hospital (whas in there for 3 days) because i had my first Epilepsie seisure. Now i heard i had to ajust my monitor freq but does it have to go lower or higher.
[22:40] <root-----> ejer xlockmore
[22:40] <ejer> i know what it is root-----
[22:40] <root-----> ejer locks screen
[22:40] <ejer> giving you a dif way of doing that
[22:40] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, yes ccms has "window decorations" checked.
[22:40] <root-----> ejer no i dont want idle thing. wana force it
[22:40] <iuri>  Hi everyone! how can i change the locale of my enviroment?
[22:40] <Darkmystere> Err, i network manager doesnt load on startup = me not being able to use internet in Ubuntu =( How can i fix this?
[22:40] <ejer> otherwise, look at cron root-----
[22:41] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, you did emerald --replace? thats good.. now hit ctrl-f2 and type emerald .. it wont open a window and emerald will stay running
[22:41] <patogen> prince_jammys: Oh and proc is dr-xr-xr-x owned by root
[22:41] <magnetron> ArmedKing: some CRT (not flat) screens tend to flicker at low frequencies
[22:41] <ComradeMirror> In synaptic where is the respository tab? x.x
[22:41] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, ctrl+F2 doesn't bring anything up.
[22:41] <iowahc> magnetron: thanks, something to go, i killed gnome-sound-pro because it used about a gig ram, now the cpu_usage of Xorg dropped to 70%
[22:41] <prince_jammys> patogen: and your home?   ie   /home/youruser?
[22:41] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, next time you boot, you shouldn't have to type it in, it will automatically load it for you
[22:41] <Darkmystere> Err, i network manager doesnt load on startup = me not being able to use internet in Ubuntu =( How can i fix this?
[22:41] <ArmedKing> magnetron, oke i have a 26" tft tho
[22:42] <iuri> i need to change the language of the shell prompt from deutch to english
[22:42] <iowahc> magnetron: can it be something with the sound driver? like Alsa?
[22:42] <IndyGunFreak> ComradeMirror: what are you tring to do?
[22:42] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, if I do a crtl-f2 emerald right?
[22:42] <Darkmystere> also iwconfig nor wifi-radar works for me neither kwifimanager :/...
[22:42] <patogen> prince_jammys: Owned by myself an drwxrwxrwx
[22:42] <bluefox83> ComradeMirror, settings->repositories
[22:42] <ArmedKing> magnetron, So if i understand correct higher is better
[22:42] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, Umm ok lemme think how else to bring it up.. yes type emerald
[22:42] <ComradeMirror> Im trying to do this
[22:42] <ComradeMirror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Japanese_Input_and_Fonts_in_Ubuntu_7%2e10
[22:42] <Darkmystere> those others never worked specially not wifi-radar
[22:42] <ComradeMirror> Im Losttttt
[22:42] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, or should I just restart x?
[22:42] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, alt-f2
[22:42] <ejer> ComradeMirror: did you try what i said
[22:42] <Junaos> Hey, I am using an ATI Radeon X1650 card, and I can't seem to enable direct rendering of OpenGL.  Have followed BinaryHowTo/ATI, to no avail. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56796/ for all of the relevant pastes I can think of
[22:42] <ComradeMirror> How do I update my respository with "sudo apt-get update"
[22:42] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, its alt-f2 sorry
[22:42] <IndyGunFreak> ComradeMirror: well just follow the instructionss, it shows you right there how to add the erpo
[22:43] <IndyGunFreak> *repo
[22:43] <prince_jammys> patogen: sudo chmod 755 /home/youruser
[22:43] <derwik1> I'm trying to put in an sshfs entry into my fstab. I've got passwordless ssh setup, and the command runs fine by hand. When I mount -a, I get `read: Connection reset by peer`. When I turn on debug stuff, it looks like it's trying to login as root. In my fstab entry, I have it as: sshfs#aderewe@computer:/path
[22:43] <magnetron> ArmedKing: sometimes adding the horiz freq and vertical refresh rate to your xorg.conf can optimise your screen frequencies
[22:43] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, you could restart x also
[22:43] <ejer> derwik1: it is trying as root
[22:43] <ComradeMirror> "W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntulinux.jp gutsy/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 058A05E90C4ECFEC
[22:43] <ComradeMirror> "
[22:43] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, got it.. :).. I'll restart x and see what happens.. if all fails I'll come back on irssi
[22:43] <ejer> derwik1: try sshfs user@ip
[22:43] <magnetron> !fixres > ArmedKing   (read private message from ubotu)
[22:43] <IndyGunFreak> ComradeMirror: well, you've got a GPG key missing for one of your repositories, not necessarily that one.
[22:43] <andrea6030> is it always this busy with all these questions?
[22:43] <ArmedKing> magnetron, Tnx a lot m8 apretiate it
[22:44] <magnetron> ArmedKing: np
[22:44] <ph0rensic> andrea6030, not at 3:30 in the morning!
[22:44] <IndyGunFreak> ComradeMirror: what other special repos havce you added to your sourcel ist?
[22:44] <sin|g_x|> hi i need libboost-python 1.3 support
[22:44] <sin|g_x|> but 1.4 is installed
[22:44] <ComradeMirror> Ah Indy
[22:44] <magnetron> ph0rensic: it's not 3:30 HERE
[22:44] <ComradeMirror> It says Im suppose to get an error
[22:44] <sin|g_x|> tried to force it with apt-get but no luch
[22:44] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[22:44] <patogen> prince_jammys: Done. I try to startx now with startx and it gives me "Hostname: unkown host and Fatal server error: Could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock giving up"
[22:44] <ph0rensic> magnetron, I know, but that is when it isn't busy
[22:44] <sin|g_x|> any1 else with this problem on gutsy
[22:44] <mrcheeks> I'll try a xfs_repair
[22:44] <Docfxit> Has anyone used Autocutsel ?¿
[22:44] <ComradeMirror> In the tutorial it says I add this "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-ja-keyring" somewhere
[22:45] <ComradeMirror> but it doesn't say
[22:45] <IndyGunFreak> ComradeMirror: ok.
[22:45] <prince_jammys>  patogen: ls -ld /tmp
[22:45] <bluefox83> ComradeMirror, in a terminal
[22:45] <IndyGunFreak> ComradeMirror: well, if you're reading the same instructions i am, run it right after sudo apt-get update
[22:45] <patrick_> hello there!
[22:45] <derwik1> ejer: It told me the line in fstab was bad when I omit the #
[22:45] <bartmon> How do i debug a bluetooth connection? I use it to transfer files from and to my phone but sometimes the connection just doesn't work...
[22:45] <patogen> prince_jammys: drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 date
[22:45] <ComradeMirror> ah
[22:46] <ComradeMirror> it started to update itself
[22:46] <ComradeMirror> without me having to do it
[22:46] <ComradeMirror> an icon appeared x.x
[22:46] <prince_jammys> patogen: ok hold on
[22:46] <ejer> derwik1: sshfs is a fuse application, meant to be run as a normal user
[22:46] <pretts> any ideas how can I converf filenames from a cd tha are probably writen with cp1253 encoding (greek) to utf8 ? the files are shown as ?????????
[22:46] <Scunizi> ph0rensic, working!  thanks.
[22:46] <patogen> prince_jammys: Ok, thank you very much. I do appreciate your help :)
[22:46] <derwik1> ejer: I know, but fstab gets run as root (doesn't it?)
[22:46] <fezick> what music player do experienced ubuntuvians prefer to use?
[22:46] <ph0rensic> Scunizi, no problemo ..
[22:46] <ejer> derwik1: yes
[22:46] <derwik1> ejer: at least, I need to be root to run `mount -a`
[22:46] <patrick_> i need some help with my pc, so i installed steam via wine, and it works... well, when i start a game (teamfortress2) it will show the startup vid and then return to the desktop (with a really fugly resolution)
[22:46] <ejer> derwik1: this is not mount, it is sshfs
[22:47] <bobdole102> My system is eating resources like candy. I've edited the startup processes to where only what I need loads at bootup, but my system still refuses to use ANY of my swapspace I've allotted it. Help, please.
[22:47] <ejer> fezick: i use amarok
[22:47] <derwik1> ejer: when I put the sshfs entry in /etc/fstab, I can use `mount` to mount it
[22:47] <ejer> derwik1: and does it mount?
[22:47] <blochsound> hi all, I used to autodep to build amarok and now I have a bunch of extra KDE crap that I don't know how to uninstall.  I used make uninstall to get rid of Amarok.
[22:47] <fezick> ejer: do you use the gnome or kde WM?
[22:47] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: what are your system specs?
[22:48] <prince_jammys> somebody's /tmp directory permissions are wrong.. they should be drwxrwxrwt  -- what is the "t" at the end and how to chmod?
[22:48] <ejer> fezick: both
[22:48] <derwik1> ejer: entering the command manually, yes, there is no problem. When it's an entry in fstab, it tries to authenticate as `root` instead of my use account
[22:48] <ejer> derwik1: http://www.debuntu.org/2006/04/27/39-mounting-a-fuse-filesystem-form-etcfstab
[22:48] <ComradeMirror> how do I Find my SUDO Password if I never had one?
[22:48] <ejer> derwik1: I know :)
[22:48] <bobdole102> IndyGunFreak: 2.8 Ghz celeron processor, 2 gigs ram, 300 gb hard drive
[22:48] <ComradeMirror> or is it my default password?
[22:48] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo | ComradeMirror
[22:48] <ubotu> ComradeMirror: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[22:49] <IndyGunFreak> ComradeMirror: its most likely your main user password.
[22:49] <ph0rensic> !root | ComradeMirror
[22:49] <ubotu> ComradeMirror: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:49] <Xbehave> !compiz seams to be breaking my suspend/ressume on intel drivers is there a fix?
[22:49] <blochsound> ComradeMirror: your sudo password is your main user password.
[22:49] <fezick> ejer: lol... i am loving amarok but im runnign it in gnome and i get funky errors at time pertaining to kde... i wish i had one handy to share, do you experience this in gnomoe too?
[22:49] <patrick_> i need some help with my pc, so i installed steam via wine, and it works... well, when i start a game (teamfortress2) it will show the startup vid and then return to the desktop (with a really fugly resolution)... when i enter glxgears in terminal it while show up some error message... got an ati radeon 850 i guess, anyone can help?
[22:49] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: there's something else werong, there's no reason at all that system should be accessing swap.
[22:49] <bartmon> prince_jammys: AFAIK the t mens that only thhe user who owns the folder can remove it
[22:49] <ejer> fezick: yep sometimes
[22:49] <iuri> hello! how to change messages from shell prompt
[22:49] <bobdole102> IndyGunFreak: Any clue as to how to track down what it might be?
[22:49] <patogen> prince_jammys: I don't know(?)
[22:49] <derwik1> ejer: thanks for the link, that's how I currently have it set up
[22:49] <afafaf> Is there a media server type where I can stream everything through a web browser?
[22:50] <fezick> ejer: sweet, thanks.
[22:50] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: not a clue.. sorry.
[22:50] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: are you running a lot of eyecandy?
[22:50] <bartmon> bobdole102: have you exeuted swapon?
[22:50] <prince_jammys> patogen: ok two things
[22:50] <derwik1> ejer: but it's still trying to login as root
[22:50] <prince_jammys> patogen: sudo chmod +t /tmp
[22:50] <sin|g_x|> anyone know how to work around repository unresolved dependency issue
[22:50] <ejer> derwik1: i think you sshould read up on fuse... the name alone explains your problem
[22:50] <IndyGunFreak> bartmon: there's no reason at all that system should ever access swap
[22:51] <derwik1> ejer: what do you mean, the name alone explains my problem?
[22:51] <bobdole102> Indy: Not running anything but gnome, and bartmon, not yet
[22:51] <ejer> derwik1: Filesystem in Userspace - userspace != root
[22:51] <derwik1> ejer: I know
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: something else is wrong.
[22:51] <sin|g_x|> basically i have libboost-python-1.34, but need libboost-python-1.33 to get a program to work
[22:51] <derwik1> ejer: but when it's being run from /etc/fstab, it's being run as root
[22:51] <blochsound> sin|g : sudo apt-get build-dep
[22:51] <blochsound> plus package name
[22:51] <ejer> derwik1: this is why it is not working, it is not meant to be run from fstab
[22:51] <sin|g_x|> blochsound: ok ill give it a try
[22:51] <derwik1> ejer: in 2 different places I'm trying to specify the username to use, which is not root
[22:52] <derwik1> ejer: I've had it working from fstab before, flawlessly
[22:52] <derwik1> ejer: in fact, that link you sent me said it can be done from fstab
[22:52] <prince_jammys> patogen: then :::    sudo chmod g+w /tmp     and     sudo chmod o+w /tmp
[22:52] <ejer> derwik1: yes it can
[22:52] <bobdole102> Would bad ram cause somethink like that?
[22:52] <Flare183> I'm back
[22:52] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: *maybe*.. but i think its something else.. is this a new install or did it just start recently?
[22:53] <IndyGunFreak> on an old install
[22:53] <prince_jammys> patogen: at the end ,  do
[22:53] <prince_jammys> patogen: ls -dl /tmp and paste here
[22:53] <derwik1> ejer: So you don't know why it's won't work then?
[22:53] <patogen> prince_jammys: drwxrwxrwt 4 root root
[22:53] <patrick_> sorry if im spamming this alot, maybe somebody notices who knos how to help me <_<
[22:53] <patrick_> i need some help with my pc, so i installed steam via wine, and it works... well, when i start a game (teamfortress2) it will show the startup vid and then return to the desktop (with a really fugly resolution)... when i enter glxgears in terminal it while show up some error message... got an ati radeon 850 i guess, anyone can help?
[22:53] <bobdole102> No, it's not new,but it's been doing thisfor as long as I can remember. I just found out that my friends PC with half the specs of mine smolders my comp
[22:53] <prince_jammys> patogen: good
[22:54] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: something is wrong, that PC should be able to run quite a bit of programs, and still not access swap.
[22:54] <ejer> derwik1: paste youfstab i will look
[22:54] <prince_jammys> patogen: try to login in again
[22:54] <bartmon> patrick_: do you have the ati proprietary driver installed?
[22:54] <bobdole102> IndyGunFreak: That's what I was thinking, but for the life of me I can't find out why
[22:54] <Junaos> Hey, I am using an ATI Radeon X1650 card, and I can't seem to enable direct rendering of OpenGL.  Have followed BinaryHowTo/ATI, to no avail. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56796/ for all of the relevant pastes I can think of
[22:54] <patrick_> bartmon: wich means?
[22:55] <needhelp> Hi can somebody help me how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have connected the camera to usb but can't get the pictures to the harddisc
[22:55] <iositd> bartmon: yes he has
[22:55] <bartmon> patrick_: is there any error?
[22:55] <prince_jammys> bartmon: thanks, by the way
[22:55] <hunterp> is there some GUI to remap my keyboard
[22:55] <ejer> patrick_: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570274
[22:55] <Jangari> needhelp: does your machine recognise the camera?
[22:55] <ejer> needhelp: you could try using f-spot
[22:55] <derwik1> ejer: http://pastebin.com/d55701efc
[22:55] <needhelp> Jangari: no
[22:55] <patogen> prince_jammys: Now I get "Fatal server error: xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (operation not permitte) giving upp \\ xinit: Connection reset by error (errno 104): unable to connect to X server
[22:55] <silas428> how can I get a wl-167g asus wlan adapter to work under linux/bsd
[22:56] <needhelp> Jangari: It is HP M307
[22:56] <bartmon> Junaos: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[22:56] <Jangari> is it connected by usb. needhelp? run lsusb, it should show up with a devide ID
[22:56] <patogen> prince_jammys: Maybe it will be less pain to just backup my X-configuration and other stuff and do a reinstall?
[22:56] <patrick_> bartmon: yeah as i said, when i enter glxgears it will show some error
[22:56] <prince_jammys> patogen: depends on whether those permissions were changed, hold on
[22:57] <Junaos> bartmon - I'm there right now.  Have done all that, It's the same things that are in binaryhowto/ATI.
[22:57] <iositd> Jangari: no, his pc has a problem with the drivers. GLXgears won't start because of an error. Steam and wine run fine, untill it hits the gfx part
[22:57] <ejer> derwik1: wrong syntax
[22:57] <prince_jammys> patogen: ls -l /initrd.img
[22:57] <Jangari> wrong person, iositd
[22:57] <derwik1> ejer: er, I usually have the # after sshfs
[22:57] <derwik1> ejer: I removed it at your suggestion -- I'll put it back in
[22:58] <iositd> sorry, was meant for ejer
[22:58] <Jangari> np
[22:58] <bartmon> Junaos: Oh, sorry then. I use that guide quite often but in the end I just started using the driver which the restr. manager installs.
[22:58] <bobdole102> IndyGunFreak: I found one problem. It's opening kiohttp's like crazy and they're zapping around 20000 kbs each
[22:58] <IndyGunFreak> kiohttp?
[22:58] <IndyGunFreak> do you have some sort of torrent/fileshare program that runs when you start up?
[22:59] <bartmon> patrick_: Is there any text that describes the error?
[22:59] <ejer> derwik1: sshfs#myuser@myhost:/home/myuser    /mnt    fuse    defaults 0 0 <- this works for me
[22:59] <Junaos> bartmon - That's the driver I'm using. I'm seriously about to try the ones from ATI, though I've heard those are even buggier.
[22:59] <patrick_> bartmon: i need some help with my pc, so i installed steam via wine, and it works... well, when i start a game (teamfortress2) it will show the startup vid and then return to the desktop (with a really fugly resolution)... when i enter glxgears in terminal it while show up some error message... got an ati radeon 850 i guess, anyone can help?
[22:59] <bobdole102> Not that I see IndyGunFreak
[22:59] <patrick_> woops
[22:59] <patrick_> bartmon: File r300_mem.c function r300_mem_alloc line 225
[22:59] <patrick_> Ran out of GART memory (for 1048576
[22:59] <prince_jammys> patogen: brb
[22:59] <IndyGunFreak> bobdole102: man i'm at a loss on this one.
[22:59] <patogen> prince_jammys: "Cannot access: no such file or directory"
[23:00] <iositd> bartmon: you can look at http://pastebin.com/m31567e3f for the full error
[23:00] <prince_jammys> patogen: ls -l /vmlinuz
[23:00] <derwik1> ejer: When I try that, it prompts for a password. That's why BatchMode=yes is on there, to suppress that since I'm authenticating with keys
[23:00] <Darkmystere> Can some one please help me get networking working in Ubuntu....?
[23:01] <needhelp> Jangari: yes it is connected to usb. I do see a line with Hewlett-Packard, but I'm not sure if that is the camera or the printer. But the printer is turned off and the camera is turned on.
[23:01] <patogen> prince_jammys: I have the kernels and stuff stored in /boot ... and vmlinuz26 is -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
[23:01] <derwik1> ejer: Does it not prompt you for a password?
[23:02] <bartmon> patrick_: what driver are you using for your graphics card?
[23:02] <Lifeisfunny> I got a video update yesterday and now my totem players shows a pink screen
[23:02] <patrick_> bartmon: im not sure, not the ati ones, removed them with some tutorial i found that said it would speed my desktop up, how to check my drivers
[23:02] <pax_tecum> how do you use the tv tuner in ubuntu
[23:02] <prince_jammys> patogen: i don't know what the last error relates to, and what permissions to change.. who owns the hidden files in your home?
[23:03] <Lifeisfunny> players is plural because it also happens through the helper extension w/in Firefox
[23:03] <prince_jammys> patogen: ls -l /home/youruser --- who owns them?
[23:03] <henri> hi guys! I can't get my CD drive to eject; there's nothing in it but the OS just won't release it! Is there a way i can make it open?
[23:03] <pax_tecum> help, tv tuner and linux
[23:03] <ejer> derwik1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430312 and again, all this is because this tool is meant to be run as a user, can you not just run the commands when a user logs in?
[23:03] <CVD-PR> how to make shortcuts like in windows?
[23:03] <pax_tecum> help, tv tuner and linux
[23:04] <derwik1> ejer: I guess the thing that I'm stuck on is... I've had this working before. So it ought to work again.
[23:04] <IndyGunFreak> pax_tecum: well given your complete and thorough explanation of your problem, i'm sure you'll get lots of answers
[23:04] <ejer> henri: you could try sudo eject
[23:04] <WelshDragon> Hi, whenever i try to play HD movies my CPU usage goes up to 100% and the video freezes all together, Any idea why and how to fix?
[23:04] <iositd> henri: are you running the live edition?
[23:04] <ejer> derwik1: it can be made to work, but it is a huge collection of hacks for no reason
[23:04] <bartmon> patrick_: Well if you want to use 3D acceleration which your grpahics card can provide you should use the manufacturer's drivers
[23:04] <henri> ejer: Thanks, no joy :(
[23:04] <pax_tecum> I have a tv tuner buildin in my computer, how do I use it in ubuntu
[23:04] <henri> iositd: nope, i've been running gutsy for a good while
[23:04] <sin|g_x|> blochsound:  Unable to find a source package for libboost.*1.33.1
[23:04] <patrick_> bartmon: well how to install them?
[23:04] <SpacePilot> This blows. Just fixed my sound, and now what? It just stopped working again.
[23:04] <patogen> prince_jammys: I'm very grateful for the help, but I think I'll just backup the config files I need and set the alarm clock early tomorrow so I can get it up and running. That will surely work
[23:05] <henri> i could probably fix it by rebooting but thought i'd ask as to a better solution
[23:05] <vilefridge> help!  I just installed 7.10, but it won't boot.  So I go into Recovery mode (want to try to reconfigure X) but all I get is a BusyBox initramfs prompt.  No command prompt?  How can I recover from this?
[23:05] <needhelp> so why won't the comp find the digicam ?
[23:05] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, apt-get install tvtime
[23:05] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: hey, I can still uset the 120 GB on the HDD, right?  It wont take space from the one the mount dir is on right?
[23:05] <sin|g_x|> i tried a bunch of commands no luck for gutsy and the old libboost 1.33.1
[23:05] <ejer> henri: no errors?
[23:05] <bartmon> patrick_: I'd say the friendliest way is through the System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager
[23:05] <patogen> prince_jammys: I'm extremly grateful for the help you've given me however. I salute you
[23:05] <prince_jammys> patogen: try ::  sudo chown -R yourusername /home/youruser   and login again
[23:05] <Mr_Awesome> i just tried to boot ubuntu, but instead of starting the desktop environment, it goes to a cli screen that hangs at the step "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc/local)  [OK]"
[23:05] <pax_tecum> tvtime will work, it's not as complicated as mythtv right?
[23:05] <WelshDragon> Hi, whenever i try to play HD movies my CPU usage goes up to 100% and the video freezes all together, Any idea why and how to fix?
[23:05] <prince_jammys> patogen: yw,   but that last one might do it
[23:05] <IndyGunFreak> pax_tecum: thats correct
[23:06] <patogen> prince_jammys: Same error
[23:06] <prince_jammys> patogen: argh
[23:06] <prince_jammys> patogen: ok good luck, i'll probably run into you here
[23:06] <patrick_> bartmon: uhm i cant find a restricted drivers managers there
[23:06] <patogen> prince_jammys: Well as I said, I'm extremly grateful for the help :)
[23:06] <rhineheart_m> I tested my postfix...(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto) when I checked the mail...it didn't arrive. Any response?
[23:06] <henri> ejer: No, i also tried eject cdrom and eject /dev/cdrom (sudo ofc)
[23:06] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, yeah
[23:07] <patogen> prince_jammys: By the way if your nick is "taken" from the artist prince jammy I can tell you that you probably have good taste for music aswell :)
[23:07] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, it just watches tv.. not records
[23:07] <prince_jammys> patogen: sudo chgrp -R yourusername /home/youruser
[23:07] <ejer> henri: is it trying to read a disk atm
[23:07] <patrick_> bartmon: found it!
[23:07] <prince_jammys> patogen: it is
[23:07] <prince_jammys> patogen: try the above
[23:07] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, also, tvtime is the best looking tv watcher program in linux.
[23:07] <nouMenon> I have two problems, the more important of the two is with Deluge torrent, the less important of the two is being unable to fully delete Wine. Can anyone help with either?
[23:07] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, it deinterlaces properly... looks as good as the best TV sets.
[23:07] <pax_tecum> it seems not recognizing my tv tuner
[23:07] <patogen> prince_jammys: "invalid group"
[23:07] <Slart> nouMenon: fully delete wine? "sudo apt-get remove --purge wine" and then delete the .wine folder in your home folder
[23:08] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, what tv card do you have
[23:08] <patogen> is the yourusername supposed to be the group?
[23:08] <prince_jammys> patogen: wow
[23:08] <patrick_> bartmon: okay activated the ati driver, gonna reboot now, ty!
[23:08] <pax_tecum> I don't know
[23:08] <ejer> patogen: chown youruser:youruser /home/youruser -R
[23:08] <pax_tecum> it came with hp m8120n
[23:08] <Lifeisfunny> never mind, I'll try something on my own.
[23:08] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, type dmesg in a terminal windows and look for any messages regarding tv card, then report back
[23:08] <nouMenon> slart should I also autoremove after --purge?
[23:09] <henri> ejer: the drive light's not on
[23:09] <Slart> nouMenon: nah.. shouldn't be necessary... wine is gone no matter what
[23:09] <henri> how could i check otherwise?
[23:09] <acee1234> i ran the ubuntu live cd and got internet just fine then intalled ubuntu after which internet connection was lost any ideas?
[23:09] <ejer> henri: type dmesg and see if any errors there
[23:09] <nouMenon> Slart how do I find .wine in my home folder? Aren't .folders hidden? If not, I already deleted it.
[23:09] <patogen> Well thank you all for the help. Got to sleep now ... bye bye
[23:10] <Slart> nouMenon: ls -a .w*
[23:10] <rhineheart_m> Hello. I have this problem--I tested my postfix...(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto) when I checked the mail...it didn't arrive. Why do you think?
[23:10] <henri> ejer: The last dmesg entry is 'mounting UDF Volume' - which is the windows install cd i read before this started happening
[23:10] <Slart> nouMenon: why did you want wine gone?
[23:10] <jeffMASTERflex> nouMenon: just hit ctrl + h in nautilus to show hidden files and folders
[23:10] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: do you know how to use a console?
[23:10] <ejer> henri: if you can, I would just reboot
[23:10] <jeffMASTERflex> ls -a in a terminal works also
[23:10] <henri> ejer: ok, cheers :)
[23:10] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: yes
[23:10] <nouMenon> Slart I tried running a poker program on there a long time ago and none of the calculators would work, so I gave up and tried to delete it.
[23:10] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, also, type lspci and see if your tv card is there
[23:10] <pax_tecum> asdrubal: I couldn't see the word tv tuner
[23:11] <TurtleOfDoom> ifconfig
[23:11] <Jangari> !hardy
[23:11] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:11] <TurtleOfDoom> and pastebin what it says
[23:11] <Slart> nouMenon: ah.. for that you only had to remove the .wine folder and perhaps do a wineprefixcreate
[23:11] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, Here's what my lspci says: 05:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[23:11] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: cant pastbin no internet connection on that comp
[23:11] <nouMenon> Slart: is what you had me do just as good?
[23:11] <Mr_Awesome> i just tried to boot ubuntu, but instead of starting the desktop environment, it goes to a cli screen that hangs at the step "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)  [OK]"
[23:12] <iositd> aight i got a quick question but i don't require an immediate solution: using standard wifi drivers on a sitecom usb2 54g+ stick ... however the range of it is considerably less then using windows
[23:12] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: duh, of course, alright one sec
[23:12] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: will x-fer to thumb drive
[23:12] <nouMenon> Slart: when I run apt-get update it still updates wine files i.e. wine.budgetdedicated.com
[23:12] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, try thest two commands: dmesg|grep -i conex    and dmesg|grep -i bt8
[23:12] <pipegeek> so, I just noticed that, when I import certain packages in python, I'm now getting "RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module <module name>"
[23:12] <pax_tecum> ok mine is like this PCI Conexant  CX23418 Single-Chip MPEG-2 Encoder with Integrated Analog Video/Broadcast Audio Decoder
[23:12] <Slart> nouMenon: what you did with the "sudo apt-get remove... " things was to remove the application wine.. deleting the .wine folder removes the stuff you installed using wine.. think of it as an application and the documents you create with the application
[23:13] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, any other connexant?
[23:13] <julle> Is it possible to create a LiveCD or a ghost disc of your current Ubuntu system and setup?
[23:13] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, ok you have a dvb device
[23:13] <pax_tecum> this is the only one
[23:13] <nouMenon> Slart: I wanted to delete everything related to wine, so that's good. Thank you.
[23:13] <pax_tecum> no dvd device
[23:13] <Mr_Awesome> is there any way to manually start the desktop?
[23:13] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, try too google for "Linux CX23418 dvb"
[23:13] <ejer> julle: this is pretty good http://www.mondorescue.org/
[23:13] <Slart> nouMenon: yes.. it doesn't know what's in a repos until it checks... so it updates it lists.. doesn't matter.. doesn't mean wine is still installed
[23:13] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, dvB not dvD
[23:14] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: just tell me what ifconfig | grep "inet addr" give you
[23:14] <Slart> nouMenon: you're welcome
[23:14] <pen> hi
[23:14] <mikebot> Is there a way to set an animated gif as my screensaver? (I just want my screensaver to be the gif centered in the screen..)
[23:14] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: pastebinning now
[23:14] <andrea6030> i had the fn keys working on kubuntu with acer 1300 laptop. i switch over to xubuntu, any special package i need to install for them to work?
[23:14] <pen> I have problems with the new firefox3 pro
[23:14] <pen> I have problems with the new firefox3 pre
[23:14] <WelshDragon> Hi, whenever i try to play HD movies my CPU usage goes up to 100% and the video freezes all together, Any idea why and how to fix?
[23:14] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, also, join #v4l to talk further with m e
[23:14] <pen> My problem is that after installing the new firefox3 in synaptics
[23:14] <pen> now I can't open anything from it
[23:14] <Slart> pen: there is a firefox3 in the repos?
[23:15] <nouMenon> Slart: can you also help me with my deluge problem? everytime I try t start it, it acts like it's opening then nothing happens. If I run it in console, it gives me an error saying the torrent is duplicate.
[23:15] <pen> yes
[23:15] <Christina18> Hi, when i connect the camera to the comp, the software sais No images found, but there certainly is 40+ pictures on the camera! Solution??
[23:15] <pen> I have it
[23:15] <pen> Slart: I have it
[23:15] <kostkon> Slart, activate the backports repository from your repository and you would be able to install firefox 3 beta 3
[23:15] <pen> the problem is
[23:15] <Slart> aha.. I see it.. nice
[23:15] <kostkon> Slart, from your software sources* not repository
[23:15] <pen> the new firefox doesn't know any applications
[23:15] <faileas> julle: i think modo does that
[23:15] <pen> in my distro
[23:16] <jeffMASTERflex> the backports only have pre3 not the actual beta 3
[23:16] <Mr_Awesome> anyone know of a way to even see if x11 or gnome is running at all?
[23:16] <Slart> nouMenon: hmm.. wouldn't know where to start.. I use azureus myself.. sorry
[23:16] <iDivine> How would I, install a loading screen after downloading it?..
[23:16] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, looks like your card just got supported as of december 22
[23:16] <asdrubal> Heh
[23:16] <julle> ejer: faileas thank you guys for you help!
[23:16] <nouMenon> No problem.
[23:16] <pen> like in firefox2
[23:16] <pen> I can open download manager
[23:16] <nouMenon> Can anyone else help with this? Everytime I try t start Deluge Torrent, it acts like it's opening then nothing happens. If I run it in console, it gives me an error saying the torrent is duplicate.
[23:16] <pen> and open a pdf from it
[23:16] <pen> but now I can't
[23:16] <tockitj> how can i monitor trafic on interfaces ?
[23:16] <pax_tecum> asdrubal: you found id, could you forward the web site to me
[23:16] <Mr_Awesome> terminal 7 is just giving me a blank screen with a blinking cursor
[23:16] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: http://pastebin.com/m61bf55b5
[23:16] <pen> firefox3 need me to choose the app
[23:16] <Slart> pen: well.. it is a development version.. it isn't really finished..
[23:16] <Noctua_> hello guys can i ask how we can mount .daa images???
[23:16] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: well?
[23:16] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: lol, nm
[23:17] <prince_jammys> tockitj: tcpdump, dsniff
[23:17] <mikebot> Or does anyone ehre know how to make a screensaver from scratch?
[23:17] <pen> like java and flash I need to link from the old firefox to the new one to work
[23:17] <faileas> *mondo
[23:17] <Slart> Noctua_: I'm not sure you can.. try converting it to an iso
[23:17] <pax_tecum> asdrubal: found it? website, sorry for the mispellings
[23:17] <pen> I don't know
[23:17] <Noctua_> how i do that??
[23:17] <pen> whether I would have to link this time
[23:17] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, http://lwn.net/Articles/263066/
[23:17] <paltemalte> what is the apt package called that contains ubuntus default splash screen on boot?
[23:17] <prince_jammys> tockitj: wireshark, etherape
[23:17] <pen> Slart: do you have any ideas?
[23:17] <tockitj> prince_jammys i need only mean values -- or something in form of graph
[23:17] <jeffMASTERflex> paltemalte: usplash?
[23:17] <tockitj> wireshark seems to skip some packets :-/
[23:18] <paltemalte> jeffMASTERflex: maybe so, will test :)
[23:18] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, join #v4l and ask their experts what the status is of your card.
[23:18] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: it looks like it has a connecttion, what does "ping yahoo.com" say?
[23:18] <asdrubal> pax_tecum, it looks like you have the Hauppauge HVR-1600
[23:18] <Slart> pen: if I had ideas I would have told you.. the only idea I can think of is that it isn't finished.
[23:18] <tockitj> it might be problem in kernel configuration
[23:18] <ComradeMirror> yay it works
[23:18] <hunterp> is xmodmap the easiest way to remap my double quote key which is producing the wrong character?
[23:18] <ComradeMirror> thanks to who ever helped me before
[23:18] <prince_jammys> tockitj: i don't know, sorry
[23:18] <pen> oh
[23:18] <Exershio> hey everyone
[23:18] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: does it time out?
[23:19] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: yes
[23:19] <Christina18> Can anyone help me to import pictures from my digitalcamera?   -   When i connect the camera to the comp, the software sais No images found, but there certainly is 40+ pictures on the camera! Solution??
[23:19] <pax_tecum> asdrubal: thank you so much
[23:19] <Exershio> I'm having a problem mounting my sda1 (Windows XP) partition. Anytime I try mounting it, it says I don't have permission to do so. I can mount it with root, but why not my main account? Also, is there a way to rename it so it displays Windows XP on my desktop instead of "sda1"
[23:19] <Mr_Awesome> i cant start x, any help?
[23:19] <iDivine> How would I, install a loading screen after downloading it?..
[23:19] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: hey I got the hardrive to mount, but I can't write anything, like I open it up with a file browser and it doesn't let me create folders in it
[23:20] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: on thing im in a university system needs to be 10Mb full duplex
[23:20] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: or weird stuff hapens
[23:20] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: mmm.  what are the permissions of the mount point::    ls -ld  /media/yourdrive    ?
[23:20] <Onyx> I'm trying to install an application via wine, but I keep running into an error:  "The installShield Engine (iKernel.exe) could not be launched".  Does anyone know what may cause this?
[23:20] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: is ip addr assigned using dhcp?
[23:20] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: i cant spell today....
[23:20] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: yes
[23:21] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: try "dhcpcd -k eth0
[23:21] <TurtleOfDoom> oops, you'll need sudo before that
[23:21] <prince_jammys> Exershio: paste the output of  :::   grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[23:21] <pen> hm
[23:21] <n00dle> bluetooth anyone?
[23:22] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: drwxrwxrwx 5 root root 104 2008-02-20 18:21
[23:22] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: not installed
[23:22] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: ok that seems like the problem
[23:22] <thegothguy> Im having Ubuntu instal probs any help here?
[23:22] <Exershio> prince_jammys: UUID=0838FF7038FF5AE0 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[23:22] <jeffMASTERflex> iDivine: the documentation should be in /usr/shar/doc/usplash/
[23:22] <Slart> Onyx:  I have no idea.. you might get some answers in #winehq , it's the official wine support channel
[23:22] <jeffMASTERflex> */usr/share....
[23:22] <rhineheart_m> !idivine
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idivine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: sorry wrong command
[23:22] <prince_jammys> Exershio: the output of  ::   echo $UID
[23:22] <Slart> n00dl: what about it?
[23:23] <Slart> !ipod
[23:23] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[23:23] <Exershio> prince_jammys: 1000
[23:23] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: hold on a sec
[23:23] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: I just ran sudo chmod -R 777 /media/mydrive and it works, but is there away were that permission change is permenant?
[23:23] <rhineheart_m> what is the best web interface for gutsy gibbon?
[23:23] <iDivine> c
[23:23] <prince_jammys> Exershio: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[23:23] <Exershio> prince_jammys: what exactly is that?
[23:23] <Djangoo> somebody want to recommend a good gutsy webcam utility and a repo to find it in? ucview doesn't seem to want to display my preview window
[23:23] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: since we're using ubuntu ... (silly me) "sudo dhclient -r && sudo dhclient"
[23:23] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: permissions are fine, owner has to change
[23:23] <n00dle> Slart, I just got a bluetooth headset and want it to work with my laptop, but nothing seems to get it to pair up. I've tried a bunch of command line and gui stuff, yet nothing.
[23:24] <kostkon> rhineheart_m, "web interface"?
[23:24] <prince_jammys> !info ntfs-3g | Exershio
[23:24] <ubotu> exershio: ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[23:24] <rhineheart_m> kostkon: yeah. web interface
[23:24] <prince_jammys> Exershio: you probably have it already
[23:24] <Slart> n00dle: hmm.. never tried a headset but I have my mobile phone working..
[23:24] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: let's unmount first and then change the owner
[23:24]  * n00dle has a Motorola H500 headset and is running 7.04 (2.6.20-15) on a Dell Inspiron 640m)
[23:24] <Slart> n00dle: what have you done so far?
[23:24] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: then try ping yahoo.com again
[23:24] <Exershio> prince_jammys: doesn't Gutsy come with read/write ntfs already?
[23:24] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: sudo umount /media/yourdrive
[23:24] <eax> Hello everyone :) Currently I have a non-working version of Ndiswrapper installed on my Acer TravelMate 4314. But I want to delete/uninstall it. It's not downloaded through the repos so I don't really know what to do :/
[23:24] <Slart> !ntfs3g
[23:24] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[23:25] <Exershio> prince_jammys: yeah, I already have it
[23:25] <prince_jammys> Exershio: yes, that's why you probably have it installed already
[23:25] <n00dle> I've used hcitool cc (MAC), and tried having both the KDE and Gnome pin_helpers set,...
[23:25] <amenado> 1ntfs3g wat
[23:25] <Exershio> prince_jammys: I CAN mount it as root, using sudo mount /media/sda1, but is there a way to rename it to "Windows XP"?
[23:25] <Mr_Awesome> i changed something under Administration->Screens and Graphics, and now i cant start x. can someone tell me where i can undo these changes from the command line?
[23:25] <n00dle> I've tried gbtsco as well.
[23:25] <thegothguy> ive installed ubuntu like 6 times on external hd before it said install completed but still cant boot up
[23:25] <Exershio> prince_jammys: so I don't have to have a folder named sda1 on my desktop
[23:26] <prince_jammys> Exershio: yes
[23:26] <TurtleOfDoom> thegothguy: is your bios set to boot off the external hard drive?
[23:26] <Mr_Awesome> i just need to change the default screen for x from the command line, any help?
[23:26] <Christina18> Can anyone please help me to import pictures from my digitalcamera? - When i connect the camera to the comp, the software sais No images found, but there certainly is 40+ pictures on the camera! Solution??
[23:26] <Slart> n00dle: hmm.. btw.. you're running 7.04.. I never did get bluetooth working on feisty
[23:26] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: says the device is busy?
[23:26] <prince_jammys> Exershio: first ::  sudo mkdir /media/Windows_XP
[23:26] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: no dhcp offers
[23:26] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: get out of the directory
[23:26] <n00dle> Slart, Ah... well, time to image the partition before trying the upgrade, then, eh? ;)
[23:26] <Mr_Awesome> Christina18: what software?
[23:26] <luisgmarine_> DUH
[23:26] <thegothguy> yes but i just Ubuntu startup logo and it stalls
[23:27] <luisgmarine_> lmao good catch ;)
[23:27] <Slart> n00dle: backups are always good. =)
[23:27] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: that means it can't get an ip address
[23:27] <emma> Where are the tool bars on the ubuntu desktop saved? Said another way, what file can I save so that after I comlete reinstall I can revert the configuration of my toolbars?
[23:27] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: im testing the line on my laptop brb
[23:27] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: ok done, what next? you want me to change the permissions again?
[23:27] <Christina18> Mr_Awesome: gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h
[23:27] <Exershio> prince_jammys: done, now what?
[23:27] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: what did you mention earlier about your connection?
[23:27] <n00dle> Slart, Amen to that. All the obex stuff seems to work in 7.04, but I guess the audio isn't ready for prime time.
[23:27] <prince_jammys> Exershio: then change the line in /etc/fstab to /media/Windows_XP
[23:27] <gepatino> emma: its a good idea to backup your entire home dir
[23:27] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: i said it had to force 10mb full duplex or it wont connect
[23:27] <emma> my home directory is backed up.
[23:28] <vanberge> anybody familiar with Wine?  i have a general question about Wine on ubuntu and wanted some help.  basically im trying to run WoW and it keeps undoing all my settings
[23:28] <emma> In fact I have a home partition
[23:28] <n00dle> Slart, Thanks.
[23:28] <TurtleOfDoom> acee1234: off the top of my head, no idea how to set that
[23:28] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: no, change the owner  ::    sudo chown youruser:youruser   /media/yourdrive
[23:28] <Slart> n00dle: well.. wish I had a headset to try here.. but I still use this old stoneage technology involving hammered out copper =)
[23:28] <emma> if I have a home partition will that save the configuration of my tool bars?
[23:28] <Mr_Awesome> Christina18: do you know if it works with other cameras?
[23:28] <acee1234> TurtleOfDoom: brb
[23:28] <Slart> vanberge: ask in #winehq instead.. all the wine-freaks hang out there =)
[23:28] <CVD-PR> application/x-executable = .exe?
[23:28] <Christina18> Mr_Awesome: no, i only have tried this camera, I don't own plenty of them....
[23:28] <gepatino> emma: yes, all the configuration for a user is inside his/hers home dir
[23:29] <Exershio> prince_jammys: it worked, thanks a lot ^_^
[23:29] <vanberge> Slart, 10-4
[23:29] <thegothguy> Is there a way to make a ubuntu boot DVD?
[23:29] <prince_jammys> Exershio: np
[23:29] <emma> but how does it work if my current home folder has the name emma and then when I reinstall I say my name is emma?
[23:29]  * vanberge notes "as the truckers say"
[23:29] <emma> how do I avoid trouble there?
[23:29] <gepatino> emma: when you reinstall, dont format the home partition ;)
[23:29] <emma> i won't but on the reinstall it's going to ask me for my log in name and such and that will be the same
[23:29] <Takatski> Hey ive got a question, i'm trying to install Ubuntu right (first timer) and i was following along a guide, but it says i cant install on an NTFS partition, is linux compatible with a FAT32? and can i install linux on a portable harddrive?
[23:29] <emma> which will create two home folders with the name emma and mess thingsup
[23:29] <prince_jammys> Exershio: I recommend you avoid the space in "Windows XP" and use an underscore
[23:30] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: now what?
[23:30] <root-----> hi
[23:30] <Mr_Awesome> Christina18: i see. i have to go now, sorry i cant help. good luck!
[23:30] <cmueller> If i were to put another video card in (say, 6200 pci card); what would I have to do to attach a third monitor via it ? (runnign dual screens on a 6800gt agp right now)
[23:30] <Exershio> prince_jammys: I was just about to change it to a space, is there a certain reason?
[23:30] <root-----> how to run a comand by a different user?
[23:30] <Takatski> not to mention the ubuntu installer wouldnt let me resize my partition, which im assuming is due to the fact that its NTFS in this first place
[23:30] <prince_jammys> Exershio: spaces in names can cause trouble
[23:30] <Slart> Takatski: I don't think linux likes fat32 or ntfs for the root fs.. try using ext3 instead
[23:30] <Christina18> Mr_Awesome: ok.. :(
[23:30] <ejer> Takatski: linux has its own filesystems, will not use ntfs or fat
[23:30] <Exershio> Takatski: I believe you can only install Linux on a ext2/ext3 partition
[23:30] <lex> Takatski: use ext3 as fat 32 doesn't allow for 2gb+ files
[23:30] <prince_jammys> Exershio: :) long to explain, trust me or look it up :)
[23:31] <Slart> Takatski: you can read and write both fat32 and ntfs.. but I don't think you can use those for the actual install
[23:31] <Exershio> prince_jammys: Alright, thanks again
[23:31] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: ls -ld /media/yourdrive
[23:31] <rhineheart_m> how to view the services that automatically run at start-up in gutsy?
[23:31] <Takatski> can i repartition my current one in windows?
[23:31] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: I noticed I can create dir when in terminal, but when I'm in a file browser it doesn't allow me to make dir
[23:31] <ejer> emma: what you said will not happen if you mount your home dir and use same username
[23:31] <Takatski> without losing windows?
[23:31] <georgesimpson> hi there, I know that some graphics cards ( mine is SIS 760) is not really compatible with linux, would the Intel GMA X3100 be easy to use?
[23:31] <Slart> rhineheart_m: system, administration, services? don't know if you find everything in there though
[23:31] <thegothguy> Takatski: Ive been trying to install ubuntu on my external hd and have had no luck, it keeps crashing maybe you'll get it
[23:31] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: drwxrwxrwx 6 root root 128 2008-02-20 18:30
[23:31] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: mmmm
[23:31] <IndyGunFreak> Christina18: can you double click on the camera icon and open it like a hard drive, and it show the images there?
[23:31] <Slart> Takatski: you should be able to.. but ask the windows people about that.. we can help you if you're running ubuntu =)
[23:32] <gepatino> emma: you could only have problems if the users ids are different
[23:32] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: still owned by root
[23:32] <Takatski> haha alright thanks
[23:32] <ejer> Takatski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[23:32] <gepatino> emma: to avoid this, you can specify the user id when creating the new user
[23:32] <Christina18> IndyGunFreak: the are no camera icon
[23:32] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: the answer to your other question is that you're not running your filebrowser as root
[23:32] <gepatino> emma: and enter the same id you have now
[23:32] <sin|g_x|> libboost-python1.33.1 anyone know a repository for this
[23:32] <Exershio> prince_jammys: is it safe to delete the old sda1 directory now?
[23:32] <rhineheart_m> Slart: but I'm using server with only ssh access...no gui
[23:32] <IndyGunFreak> Christina18: is the camera plugged in?
[23:32] <emma> gepatino - that sounds promising.  isn't the user id of the superuser 1000 ?
[23:33] <prince_jammys> Exershio: ls /media/theoldname
[23:33] <Christina18> IndyGunFreak: sure, and it is turned on also
[23:33] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: yeah I guess it works in terminal because I alraedy typed in the sudo password
[23:33] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i am running a vnc server, but it keeps opening port 5901 display1, i want it to show 5900 display 0 anway to get it to work that way
[23:33] <ForzaPalermo> im using x11vnc
[23:33] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: correct
[23:33] <gepatino> emma: no, 1000 is the id of the first user
[23:33] <IndyGunFreak> Christina18: ok, click on Places/Computer, see if you see an icon there for your camera.
[23:33] <emma> I am the first user
[23:33] <Exershio> prince_jammys: what does that do?
[23:33] <thegothguy> According to my instal, ubuntu 6.06 is installed on my external hd but when i boot from my xternal i get the ubuntu logo and loading load loading nothing
[23:33] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: one more time:::  sudo chown yourname /media/thename
[23:33] <Slart> rhineheart_m: ahh.. ok.. then it gets harder.. you could always check the rc-scripts.. I've never messed with those myself but I think they aren't that weird to get a grip on
[23:33] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: could it be the fstab entry that I made?  I just followed what they guy wrote in the post, I didn't use the exact one from the guide
[23:33] <ejer> gepatino: her user will always be 1000 on new install
[23:33] <prince_jammys> Exershio: lists the contents
[23:33] <Christina18> IndyGunFreak: no new icon
[23:33] <gepatino> emma: thats ok. so when reinstalling, enter the same user name, and thats it
[23:33] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[23:33] <prince_jammys> Exershio: just to double check
[23:33] <Exershio> prince_jammys: oh, well it's empty
[23:33] <Dr_willis> ForzaPalermo,  you may want to double check the x11vnc docs.   I recall it taking a little more work thenjust running it.
[23:33] <eax>  Hello everyone :) Currently I have a non-working version of Ndiswrapper installed on my Acer TravelMate 4314. But I want to delete/uninstall it. It's not downloaded through the repos so I don't really know what to do :/
[23:34] <gepatino> emma: and be shure of selecting '/home' as the mount point for your home partition
[23:34] <emma> i thought that when you go through the log in process and give the same name as your current home partition then you end up with trouble.
[23:34] <prince_jammys> Exershio: it can go. general unrelated tip:: do not use spaces in your file names
[23:34] <ForzaPalermo> Dr_willis, it used to work fine
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> Christina18: hmm, honestly i've never had a prob with cameras and ubuntu.. what model camera?
[23:34] <ForzaPalermo> its as if it is now in use
[23:34] <emma> Okay I'm going to try it out then.
[23:34] <Christina18> IndyGunFreak: HP M307
[23:34] <ForzaPalermo> andi cant use it anymore
[23:34] <Exershio> prince_jammys: I'll keep that in mind, thanks
[23:34] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: paste the fstab line here
[23:34] <emma> Now of course all the apps I've instaleld will go away
[23:35] <emma> but their config files will still be in the home partition
[23:35] <emma> so if I reinstall them will they be configured the way they are pre-fresh install?
[23:35] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_:  grep /media /etc/fstab
[23:35] <luisgmarine_> /dev/sdb1       /media/neodrive                           reiserfs defaults        0       2
[23:35] <emma> like say I made changes to xchat. If the xchat config file is in the home partition, will those changes be preserved after I install xchat again?
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> emma: Not really. You will keep all your settings.
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> emma: Yes, that should still be there
[23:36] <ejer> emma: just do not format /home, and yes everything will be there
[23:36] <Griz> Anyone else having issues with the RTL8185 chipset for their wifi??
[23:36] <emma> Okay sounds pretty nice if it's true. I'm going to try it.
[23:36] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: is the folder still owned by root, by the way?
[23:36] <iKap> anyone have any idea why my phone is not finding my computers bluetooth? I am using bluetooh applet, and turned on "visable and connectable", but for some reason my cell phone isn't picking it up.. any ideas?!
[23:36] <nouMenon> I'm trying to set up Azureus and it keeps refusing all the ports I'm trying. "NAT Error"
[23:36] <root-----> how to run a comand by a different user?
[23:36] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: you can press the up key to see past commands in your terminal
[23:37] <IndyGunFreak> Christina18: very strange, i really don't have an ansewr.. sorry
[23:37] <ejer> root-----: su - user
[23:37] <IndyGunFreak> sounds like your ubuntu install isn't seeing it.
[23:37] <Christina18> IndyGunFreak: ok.. :(
[23:37] <root-----> ejer ok
[23:37] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: yes I can
[23:37] <DFlame> nouMenon, if you're connection through a router you should set up port forwarding
[23:37] <DFlame> *connecting, mind my typing
[23:37] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i am running a vnc server, but it keeps opening port 5901 display1, i want it to show 5900 display 0 anway to get it to work that way
[23:37] <ForzaPalermo> im using x11vnc
[23:37] <pen> btw, the old firefox 2 seems to be the main freeze agency
[23:38] <nouMenon> DFlame: I am hosted by another computer directly connected to our modem.
[23:38] <pen> for my distro
[23:38] <rhineheart_m> how to view and control  the services that automatically run at start-up in gutsy? just like in windows that has msconfig
[23:38] <pen> that's why I want to use firefox 3
[23:38] <pen> less freezes
[23:38] <ejer> ForzaPalermo: that usually means another vnc server is uing port 5900
[23:38] <DFlame> is there a firewall installed on the hosting computer?
[23:38] <Takatski> Would u guys recommend using Wubi instead of Ubuntu?
[23:38] <ejer> rhineheart_m: system>prefs>sessions
[23:38] <pen> btw, do anyone here know about ata?
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> Takatski: Not really...
[23:38] <PriceChild> Takatski, "instead"? they are different things
[23:38] <f4rnley> is there a way to make the bottom right corner of a window (eg terrminal) more sensitive to being dragged diagonally? at the moment the sweet spot seems to be one pixel, otherwise it lets me drag right or drag down.
[23:39] <Takatski> whats the difference, its being advertised as "ubuntu in a windows folder"
[23:39] <rhineheart_m> ejer: how to do in it ssh?
[23:39] <Takatski> with a boot option
[23:39] <pen> nvm
[23:39] <root-----> ejer /usr/bin/xlock: /usr/bin/xlock: cannot execute binary file
[23:39] <ejer> pen: more likely to be flash at fault or an extension
[23:39] <ejer> rhineheart_m: update-rc.d
[23:39] <emma> What about if I have installed gutsy and in the reinstall I install feisty. Will that mess up things with my home partition or will still things still work?
[23:39] <bluefoxx> ok, so i reintsalled on my other machine, reset both my modem and then the hub for my network, and the other calims it connected to the network, but it still wont see my main machine, which i want it to access to log onto
[23:39] <nouMenon> DFlame: I don't see one running.
[23:39] <pen> ejer: well, when I freezed I looked up the log
[23:39] <ejer> emma: should work, but not recommended really
[23:39] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: :)
[23:40] <pen> ejer: and it usually is something with ata
[23:40] <Slart> Takatski: I guess it would be ok for a trial run.. but in the long run I'd want it to be on its own partition
[23:40] <Christina18> Hi I need help with digicamera. I am unable to connect/import pictures from the camera to the disc. Can anyone here please help me?
[23:40] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: good news?
[23:40] <ejer> pen: that is your hard drive perhaps
[23:40] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: ok i'm trying to find that old link
[23:40] <Bitmess> I connected a 17" monitor to my laptop and after a lot of tweaking, I have it looking the way I want.  When I shutdown my computer it lose3s my settings such as resolution and video adapter.  How can I make it retain these settings?
[23:40] <root-----> ejer whats wrong?
[23:40] <Griz> Anyone else having issues with the RTL8185 chipset for their wifi??
[23:40] <bluefoxx> i should mention im using a 4port network hub connected to a motorola surfboard cable modem
[23:40] <pen> ejer: when I was still using firefox 2, it freezes very often
[23:40] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: but is it still owned by root after those chowns that you did?
[23:40] <pen> ejer: I have to remove my CDRom drive
[23:40] <DFlame> nouMenon, if theres no firewall on the hosting computer I'm not sure where to go from there (still fairly new). Maybe someone else can chip in
[23:40] <ejer> pen: firefox2 is pretty stable it is addons that make it unstable
[23:40] <pen> ejer: to fix it
[23:40] <bluefoxx> Bitmess, use sudo for editing the settings
[23:41] <pen> ejer: well, that one you got it wrong
[23:41] <ejer> but could be bug pen, did you search that
[23:41] <nouMenon> Thanks anyways DFlame
[23:41] <pen> ejer: yes I did
[23:41] <ejer> ok pen
[23:41] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: correct
[23:41] <pen> ejer: no one know why the cdrom drive is relating to my freezes
[23:41] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: and it's currently unmounted
[23:41] <ejer> pen: paste me the error
[23:41] <pen> ejer: then after I use firefox 3, it's better
[23:41] <pen> ejer: I don't know why
[23:41] <rhineheart_m> ejer: I can't get what you mean with update-rc.d
[23:42] <ejer> oh ok
[23:42] <pen> ejer: ok
[23:42] <nouMenon> Does anyone have a port suggestion for Azureus?
[23:42] <ejer> rhineheart_m: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Update-rc.d
[23:42] <luisgmarine_> hmm
[23:42] <Bitmess> bluefoxx: I used "Screens and Graphics" under administration and had to enter my password to change settings. Would this be the same?
[23:42] <georgesimpson> hi there, I know that some graphics cards ( mine is SIS 760) is not really compatible with linux, would the Intel GMA X3100 be easy to use?
[23:42] <luisgmarine_> ok It changed
[23:42] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: ok I think I got it
[23:42] <iKap> anyone have any idea why my phone is not finding my computers bluetooth? I am using bluetooh applet, and turned on "visable and connectable", but for some reason my cell phone isn't picking it up.. any ideas?!
[23:42] <ejer> nouMenon: did you follow azureus wiki
[23:42] <nouMenon> ejer, no I downloaded from synaptic
[23:43] <tony_> I have a problem
[23:43] <ejer> nouMenon: there is a large section of azureus wiki dedicated to this problem
[23:43] <nouMenon> ejer, also, isn't the azureus wiki out-dated? there's no 7.10 on there form what i saw
[23:43] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: ok, the permission is set to my username:username
[23:43] <hatter> !ask
[23:43] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:43] <luisgmarine_> but I still can't create folders in it using file browser
[23:43] <pen> ejer: http://rafb.net/p/Im9DCh46.html
[23:43] <ejer> nouMenon: you do not seem to have a ubuntu problem
[23:43] <danbhfive> hello, I have kubuntu loaded via virtualbox, and dns is failing, any way to triage the problem?
[23:43] <pen> ejer: and it just keep repeating
[23:43] <tony_> My Control+Alt+F1 just freezes my screen. I can do Control+Alt+F7 to get my desktop back though
[23:43] <bluefoxx> Bitmess, are u using a nvidia card? cause if so update then use "gksu nvidia-settings" and its the second menu option, set it up in there and use "save to config ile"
[23:43] <ejer> pen: your hard drive is dying or having errors
[23:44] <pen> ejer: so I only paste some of the repetitions
[23:44] <bluefoxx> file*
[23:44] <emma> Then I guess I have to download the iso for Gutsy again
[23:44] <pen> ejer: dying?
[23:44] <ejer> yes
[23:44] <emperorcezar> Can any of you guys recommend and good agile process model that would work with a single developer?
[23:44] <nouMenon> ejer, well it is not a ubuntu specific problem necessarily, but seeing as how I am an ubuntu user and I don't know my way around, it makes it awfully hard to fix
[23:44] <ejer> as in get data off it fast pen
[23:44] <emma> Where is the best place to download the Gutsy live install disk?
[23:44] <Bitmess> bluefoxx: No, it's an Intel 915
[23:44] <emperorcezar> Sorry, wrong channel
[23:44] <pen> ejer: would it be my kernel is generic?
[23:44] <ejer> nouMenon: look on azureus wiki! it is all there, has nothing to do with linux
[23:44] <solexious> [Q] How can i control setting data pins high on a serial port? *led fun*
[23:44] <ejer> no pen, your hard drive is about to stop working
[23:44] <danbhfive> emperorcezar: what channel was that question for?
[23:45] <pen> ejer: how do you come to that conclusion?
[23:45] <bluefoxx> Bitmess, ah, sorrey i dont have much expirence with intel cards, ive only used nvidia so far, as its done best for my needs
[23:45] <pen> ejer: no one told me that
[23:45] <ejer> because I am wise and experienced with dying hard drives pen
[23:45] <ejer> i could be wrong, who knows
[23:45] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: ok, sorry.. so now you own the folder, correct?
[23:45] <pen> ejer: omg :O
[23:45] <Bitmess> bluefoxx: Ok, thanks
[23:45] <luisgmarine_> yes
[23:45] <pen> ejer: is it because of the cache thing?
[23:45] <CarlFK> how do I get sudo to sudo the >> to?  sudo cat fstab.txt >> /etc/fstab
[23:46] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: drwxrwxrwx 7 trinity trinity 160 2008-02-20 18:45 /media/neodrive/
[23:46] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: sudo mount /media/yourdrivename
[23:46] <persian_x> hey i'm a new linux user, i burnt the live CD and boot from it but i just can't go on the desktop it always freezes at the same spot please help!
[23:46] <emma> I found it here I think -- http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[23:46] <pen> persian_x: try boot parameters
[23:46] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: already mounted, but I cant create folders in it while using file browser
[23:46] <root-----> is there any app (else than screen saver) that can be run as system service and locks screen and a password has to be given to unlock. (not the user pwd)?
[23:46] <ejer> wont workj CarlFK use sudo nano instead
[23:46] <CarlFK> ejer: huh?
[23:46] <persian_x> ;d
[23:46] <pen> ejer: could you explain to me a bit of the error log?
[23:47] <danbhfive> CarlFK: you might be looking for tee, sudo cat fstab.txt | sudo tee /etc/fstab
[23:47] <persian_x> pen> what are they?
[23:47] <ejer> pen: res 51/20:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x5 (timeout <- this is bad
[23:47] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: you know what, I think i'm done, its fixed.  all other apps can create folders, so its g2g
[23:47] <pen> persian_x: it's listed on the menu when you first insert the cd
[23:47] <georgesimpson> hi there, I know that some graphics cards ( mine is SIS 760) is not really compatible with linux, would the Intel GMA X3100 be easy to use?
[23:47] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: thanks soo much for the help, greatly appriciate it
[23:47] <CVD-PR> how to compile c++/c in the terminal?
[23:47] <bluefoxx> so how can i allow other computers on my local network to see this one and log onto it?
[23:47] <pen> persian_x: press f3 or something
[23:47] <pen> ejer: what does that mean?
[23:47] <rhineheart_m> what is link for ubuntu hardy documentation/information?
[23:47] <pen> ejer: :s
[23:47] <bluefoxx> i have my second connected via a hub
[23:47] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: ok, good .. maybe remounting after those changes will fix the other prob
[23:48] <ejer> pen: it is a hard drive error :) it is bad
[23:48] <bluefoxx> but it wont see this one
[23:48] <bluefoxx> or connect to the internet
[23:48] <luisgmarine_> prince_jammys: ok let me try that just for shits and giggles
[23:48] <pen> ejer: bad sectors?
[23:48] <stbcomp> Newbie here, can anyone tell me how to view received faxes through efax-gtk?
[23:48] <prince_jammys> luisgmarine_: yeah
[23:48] <CVD-PR> ?
[23:48] <bluefoxx> and therefore i cant pastebin stuff from it
[23:48] <persian_x> everything loads up fine, with the [OK] sign on the right, but right when it needs to go on the desktop the screen stays black
[23:48] <ejer> pen: no, sounds like drive is dying, ie hardware or other errors
[23:49] <ejer> pen: it is not possible to diagnose only from that log
[23:49] <pen> ejer: hm, so you mean my hd is getting old, now it is complaining.
[23:49] <ejer> basically
[23:49] <ejer> and could stop working totally anytime
[23:49] <pen> ejer: but it has only been used for 1 to 2 years
[23:49] <ejer> so backup now
[23:49] <Bitmess> bluefoxx: I found something about gnome-session-save.  I'm going to try it.
[23:49] <pen> ejer: ok
[23:49] <hatter> 1 or 2 years is about the average for hard drives these days
[23:49] <ejer> hard drives die, I have one go every few months
[23:49] <hatter> we have gotten used to it
[23:50] <pen> ejer: I only backup windows so far
[23:50] <bluefoxx> Bitmess, lol, kay
[23:50] <ejer> if it is under warranty you can get RAM pen
[23:50] <stbcomp> use seagate, at least they have a warranty
[23:50] <hw00djohn> hey, does anyone know how to make the beep stop when i hit backspace too many times?
[23:50] <ejer> RMA pen
[23:50] <pen> ejer: ?
[23:50] <ejer> i RMA WD and maxtor all the time
[23:50] <hatter> like car batteries, they used to last forever now, 1 or 2 years
[23:50] <Bitmess> bluefoxx: Is that wrong?
[23:50] <pen> ejer: I'm using a laptop
[23:50] <ejer> pen: return under warranty
[23:50] <ejer> same deal
[23:50] <pen> ejer: ok
[23:50] <pen> ejer: I would try
[23:50] <bluefoxx> Bitmess, i have no clue
[23:51] <pen> ejer: what backup app do you recommand for ubuntu?
[23:51] <hatter> raid everything
[23:51] <stbcomp> does anyone here use efax-gtk?
[23:51] <ejer> pen, in that case just copy to another drive or dvd, for an automatic backup, backuppc is best imo, but complex
[23:51] <pen> ejer: ok
[23:52] <pen> ejer: thx for the advice.
[23:52] <ejer> np
[23:52] <pen> ejer: maybe you saved my life. lol
[23:52] <bluefoxx> so how can i allow other computers on my local network to see this one and log onto it?
[23:52] <Slart> hw00djohn: rip out the little speaker... or you could disable the system speaker module... don't know what it's called though.. but I think that was one way.. perhaps the only way
[23:52] <ejer> hehe i accept cheques and paypal pen (j/k)
[23:53] <CarlFK> danbhfive: are you sure?  It didn't like my pw, but it probably worked ok when I ran it after sudo ing something else and id didn't need to ask for a pw again - I am guessing the 2nd sudo is eating the pipped input
[23:53] <Pete_B> is there any info online about the setup that the Ubuntu LAMP server installation does beyond if I were to just install the packages separately?
[23:53] <hw00djohn> short of destroying my sound all together, what can i do about that damned beep?
[23:53] <pen> ejer: sorry, I don't have either account :P
[23:53] <Christina18> Hi I need help with digicamera. I am unable to connect/import pictures from the camera to the disc. Can anyone here please help me?
[23:53] <danbhfive> CarlFK: you have to type the password twice
[23:53] <prince_jammys> hw00djohn: when you press backspace in a terminal?
[23:54] <CarlFK> danbhfive: but won't tee get the output from the 2nd sudo?
[23:54] <ejer> Christina18: doubtful anyone can help you with just that info, what program are you using, what errors are there
[23:54] <hw00djohn> prince_jammys, no, when i backspace beyond the amount of typing i have here in IRC.  it's like a notification beep.
[23:54] <dmoerner> hw00djohn, sudo modprobe -r pcspkr
[23:55] <danbhfive> CarlFK: tee is the second sudo, right?  Im not sure what you are asking
[23:55] <ejer> hw00djohn: sytem>prefs>sound>system beep
[23:55] <Christina18> Christina18: I use Ubuntu, when I connect nothing happens. And no new icons anywhere. I have tried both Camera and Disk mode on the menu on the camera.
[23:55] <pen> ejer: hey, just found some interesting searches in google
[23:55] <rhineheart_m> how to get linux user license number?
[23:55] <pen> ejer: some said it's a bug
[23:55] <Christina18> ejer: last message was to you
[23:56] <hw00djohn> thanks guys
[23:56] <pen> ejer: like empty CDRom drive will reproduce the bug
[23:56] <prince_jammys> rhineheart_m: user id?
[23:56] <CarlFK> danbhfive: sudo cat fstab.txt | sudo tee /etc/fstab - the | is going to pipe the cat output into the 2nd sudo, not tee.
[23:56] <pen> ejer: lol
[23:56] <pen> ejer: what do you think?
[23:56] <ejer> could be pen I guess
[23:56] <ejer> where is bug
[23:56] <ejer> Christina18: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/photos.html
[23:57] <rhineheart_m> prince_jammys: is there such thing as linux user license number?
[23:57] <pen> ejer: hm, if it's a bug then I just have to wait....:/
[23:57] <prince_jammys> rhineheart_m: could be, ive never heard of it
[23:57] <danbhfive> CarlFK: no, it will pipe into tee, because you are running sudo tee
[23:57] <pen> ejer: either way, I will still backup just for sure
[23:57] <prince_jammys> rhineheart_m: there is a thing called your user id
[23:57] <cens0red> hey is there  a way to tell exactly what kind of CPU I have in ubuntu? I know it's a celeron 2800, just don't know if its Prescott or Northwood.
[23:57] <ejer> pen: is your cdrom a SATA one
[23:57] <zamarax> q: even since putting on desktop effect in 7.10 when I double click on a title bar is rolls the window up / down versus the old behaviour which was maximize / restore window, is there anyway I can have the desktop effect but have double clicking maximize / restore windows?
[23:58] <lmiller> Hi
[23:58] <CarlFK> danbhfive: interesting.  thanks.
[23:58] <warriorforgod> cens0red: cat  /proc/cpuinfo
[23:58] <pen> ejer: let me check
[23:58] <pen> ejer: lspci right?
[23:58] <IanLiu> !cedega
[23:58] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[23:58] <ejer> pen: looks like a 100GB partitionon a hard drive
[23:58] <cens0red> warriorforgod thanks!
[23:58] <lmiller> I have a non-networked laptop running dapper. It has USB. What's the (least worst) way to upgrade dapper to gibbon?
[23:59] <rhineheart_m> prince_jammys: where can we get it?
[23:59] <pen> ejer: what do you mean? I have a 100gb hd
[23:59] <Christina18> ejer: yes, how to organize my photo collection! F-Spot says "No camera detected"
[23:59] <prince_jammys> rhineheart_m:in  a terminal:::  echo $UID
[23:59] <pen> ejer: I didn't have a 100gn partition
[23:59] <nouMenon> My Ubuntu machine connects to the internet through a windows machine, which is directly connected to the modem. Someone else set up the network. I need to stop using DHCP and start using a Static IP. I have no idea what I'm doing with Ubuntu networking. Can anyone help?
[23:59] <prince_jammys> rhineheart_m: that's your user id
[23:59] <ejer> pen: then that is your harddrive dying, not a cdrom, sorry
[23:59] <pen> ejer: ??
[23:59] <CVD-PR> g++ -o, the -o is for?
[23:59] <gamma> so my xfce panel needs to be reset to the default perimeters. i lost the workspace icons and pidgen icons ect. anyone know a command to fix this?
[23:59] <Takatski> Once i partition my drive and have ubuntu installed, how do i get ubuntu and windows to dual boot?
[23:59] <rhineheart_m> prince_jammys: how to know my user id?
[23:59] <ejer> pen:  sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 195371568 512-byte hardware sectors (100030 MB)
[23:59] <Pete_B> nouMenon: System -> Administration -> Networking
[23:59] <pen> ejer: how do I know whether my hd is sata?
[23:59] <ejer> pen: that is a100GB drive