[14:12] <Keybuk> argh
[14:12] <Keybuk> the hardest point of installing a new computer
[14:12] <Keybuk> picking a name for it
[14:14] <ion_> :-)
[14:14] <ion_> I pick names from Pan Sonic’s discography.
[14:15] <Keybuk> mine are computer games
[14:15] <Keybuk> the trouble is, it's a very large selection of names to choose from
[14:21] <Keybuk> grand-theft-auto is too long :-(
[14:21] <ion_> alku, vaihe, luotain, aines, hapatus, tela (translation: beginning, phase, probe, substance, sour, platen). Nice, short names. :-)
[14:21] <ion_> gta? :-)
[16:48] <Keybuk> hmm
[16:48] <Keybuk> start service FOO=bar
[16:48] <Keybuk> pretty obvious that FOO=bar in pre-start, post-start and main
[16:48] <Keybuk> stop service FOO=baz
[16:48] <Keybuk> does FOO=bar or FOO=baz in pre-stop and post-stop? :)
[17:31] <Keybuk> ...I think it should override
[17:31] <Keybuk> start apache SITE=netsplit.com DEBUG=no
[17:31] <Keybuk> stop --id 1234 DEBUG=yes
[17:31] <Keybuk> if the environment is coming from events, rather than manual, it will match anyway
[22:03]  * Keybuk thinks further
[22:03] <Keybuk> start apache SITE=netsplit.com DEBUG=no
[22:03] <Keybuk> (job #1234)
[22:03] <Keybuk> stop --id 1234
[22:03] <Keybuk> start --id 1234 DEBUG=yes
[22:03] <Keybuk> stop --id 1234
[22:04] <Keybuk> start --id 1234
[22:04] <Keybuk> what should the value of $DEBUG be?
[22:05] <Keybuk> that's pretty obvious when I write it
[22:05] <Keybuk> it shouldn't depend on the timing between the commands