holo | TheSheep: Yes, of couse, i can verify the checksum. Are you still there? | 00:56 |
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Dirty | what livily room | 01:28 |
holo | heh | 01:32 |
holo | anyway.. I don't need to verify the checksum | 01:32 |
holo | I know its corrupt | 01:32 |
holo | I wget -c the iso, it was interrupted in the middle, and then resumed manually | 01:32 |
holo | sometimes, don't know why, I get corrupted content | 01:33 |
holo | guess I wasn't lucky this time | 01:33 |
holo | ok, I will check it, or I won't sleep well | 01:33 |
holo | 8a6e05a36ff5098ece6e3d28ad3b279a xubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso | 01:38 |
holo | strange, it matches the md5 checksum in the site | 01:38 |
holo | this one: 8a6e05a36ff5098ece6e3d28ad3b279a *xubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso | 01:38 |
holo | There is a very small probability that this corruption didn't get noticed my the md5 checksum algorithm | 01:39 |
holo | i'm out of clues to my problem | 01:39 |
holo | anyone knows a very fast server from which I cand download this again? | 01:40 |
zoredache | holo: if you have a fast internet connection, then you could download the mini.iso and isntall from the internet | 01:41 |
zoredache | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 01:41 |
holo | zoredache: my internet connection fluctuates between extremely fast and extremly slow with great packet loss. But anyway, does that one have already X pre-installed? | 01:42 |
zoredache | holo: the mini.iso is an 8mb image that comes with absolutly nothing, but you can install anything you want from it | 01:42 |
holo | I used alot of netinstalls from minimal cd back in debian times.. i also had alot of spare time at that time for configuring things manually. anyway, the cluttered cds also didn't have X pre-configured, so everything ended up being the same. | 01:45 |
holo | in this situation i have to balance the time of getting this configured correctly or just download a fully/integrated environment out-of-the-bok | 01:45 |
holo | and this is going to be ran in a bochs layer, so it will be not only slow because i have to configure it manually, but the whole system is slow | 01:46 |
holo | :s | 01:46 |
zoredache | why bochs? why not one of the other faster vm technologies? | 01:48 |
holo | zoredache: give me an option. | 01:48 |
zoredache | vmware? | 01:49 |
zoredache | parallels | 01:49 |
zoredache | xen, .... what is your guest os? | 01:50 |
holo | zoredache: vmware: I have to create the vmware image which can only be created in vmawre workstation, which is not free. I have to create account, download it manually and I can only use it for a limited period of time right? I will make serious work in these vms for a long period of time | 01:51 |
holo | parallels, i have to check that one | 01:51 |
holo | zoredache: are you referring to this?: http://www.parallels.com/ | 01:52 |
holo | this is mac software it seems. | 01:52 |
zoredache | holo: there are free versions of vmware... (vmware player, and vmware server) I have been using vmware server on my workstation for a couple years | 01:52 |
holo | zoredache: do any of those versions provide facility for creating vmware image? | 01:53 |
zoredache | vmware server does | 01:53 |
holo | zoredache: super! | 01:53 |
zoredache | with vmware player, you can download a blank vm off the interweb then use that too | 01:53 |
zoredache | so for vmware player, use http://www.easyvmx.com/ to create a blank vm | 01:54 |
holo | zoredache: can I install an OS in a blank image with vmware player? | 01:54 |
zoredache | yes | 01:54 |
holo | ok zoredache, you bring me good news | 01:54 |
zoredache | it isn't quite as easy but it can be done | 01:55 |
zoredache | of course xen, virtualbox, or uml, are also options | 01:55 |
zoredache | I am most familiar with vmware though... I have been using it since 1999 | 01:55 |
zoredache | for the other vm options check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines | 01:56 |
holo | zoredache: I know vmware is good.. i will stick to it | 01:57 |
holo | a state of the art tool | 01:57 |
holo | now back to work! | 01:58 |
holo | thank you very much zoredache, you saved me alot of time | 01:58 |
* TD-Linux sees no point in vmware player | 02:14 | |
TD-Linux | vmware server works just as good :D | 02:14 |
holo | /usr/bin/vmplayer: 166: cannot open /etc/vmware/locations: No such file | 02:17 |
holo | now this is a good start | 02:17 |
holo | I see no ending in my hacking into others mistakes life | 02:18 |
Technoid_India | hi every one... | 02:19 |
zoredache | hi | 02:20 |
Technoid_India | can i know whats the minimum configration to install xubuntu ??? | 02:20 |
Technoid_India | zoredache: Hi | 02:20 |
holo | Technoid_India: I don't know, because I didn't check in in the page. Did you check it? anyway, tell me which CPU and memory and maybe I can see if you can | 02:40 |
Technoid_India | holo: i am goin to install ubuntu my old pc >> P4 - 128MB RAM - 40GB Harddrive... | 02:41 |
zoredache | 128 is on the slim side, but it may run. You'll probably need to use the alternate-installer | 02:42 |
Technoid_India | zoredache: yes..bro..i will be using alternate installer... | 02:45 |
Technoid_India | so how is xubuntu different frm ubuntu ??? | 02:46 |
Technoid_India | n what file system should i use ??? | 02:46 |
holo | Technoid_India: yes, because livecd takes too much ram, go for alternate install.. xfce is pretty light.. also consider a 2.4 kernel.. it consumes less ram | 02:46 |
Technoid_India | ext3 ??? | 02:47 |
holo | Technoid_India: ext3 is the slowest filesystem, go for reiserfs | 02:47 |
holo | of course, just my humble opinion | 02:47 |
Technoid_India | holo: so will it run smoothly on my pc....??? | 02:47 |
holo | Technoid_India: I own a amd 64 dual core or something xpto.. sometimes i think it doesn't run smoothly.. do you expect me to say that from those specs? | 02:48 |
Technoid_India | n does it supports all ubuntu packeges??? | 02:48 |
holo | ^^ | 02:48 |
holo | Technoid_India: yes, the repositories are the same | 02:49 |
Technoid_India | holo: i have a high end rig to bro.... | 02:49 |
Technoid_India | but im just tryin my luck on this old crap pc... | 02:49 |
holo | its may not be crap pc.. it wasn't some years ago.. the pc is still the same, but maybe more used | 02:50 |
holo | but still the same, so it should do what what it did some years ago | 02:50 |
Technoid_India | can i use all the application (packages) that i used to run on ubuntu ??? | 02:50 |
holo | Technoid_India: yes you can. but don't run kde on it | 02:51 |
holo | or gnome | 02:51 |
holo | it would sound stupid :) | 02:51 |
Technoid_India | kde - gnome apps ??? | 02:51 |
holo | yes you can | 02:51 |
Technoid_India | holo: so i can do all my studio work on xubuntu... | 02:52 |
holo | dunno, but I supose you run every app you ran in ubuntu | 02:52 |
holo | except maybe for configuration tools of gnome | 02:52 |
Technoid_India | audio/video >> recording n editing stuff ??? | 02:52 |
holo | Technoid_India: take it easy.. you should now more about your work than me | 02:53 |
Technoid_India | then i will be sticking to xubuntu for this old pc.... | 02:53 |
Technoid_India | holo: thanx brother...for ur help.. | 02:54 |
holo | xubuntu is mainly a window manager alternative, window managers manage windows, that' all.. don't give so much importance to it | 02:54 |
Technoid_India | why soo... | 02:54 |
Technoid_India | that mens that i should stick to ubuntu... | 02:55 |
holo | because its a window manager! its not about the applications you ran before | 02:55 |
holo | the main important thing is that if you ran linux applications, they will still run in xubuntu, because xubuntu is a linux distribution | 02:55 |
Technoid_India | this #channel isnt crowded enough !!! | 02:55 |
holo | Technoid_India: depends on requirements, gnome is much more than a window manager (someone correct me if i'm wrong) and pretty damm heavy | 02:56 |
holo | so with that machine i wouldn't run gnome, or better said, ubuntu version desktop | 02:56 |
Technoid_India | holo: yes bro..gnome is damn Heavy...i tried to run ubuntu dextop installer on some new machines wid 256mb.... but it would take 15-25minutes to load the desktop itself.... | 03:00 |
holo | just the destkop? strange.. not even livecds take so much time | 03:01 |
holo | anyway, yes, gnome is heavy, kde is heavy, xfce is not | 03:01 |
holo | but don't expect to have the same level of integrated features in xfce | 03:02 |
holo | everything comes with a but | 03:02 |
Technoid_India | holo: but.... what ??? | 03:02 |
holo | kde for example has lots of features that make him being used by power users.. you can tweak anything | 03:03 |
holo | with very user friendly interfaces | 03:04 |
eldalion | is there a reason why xubuntu doesn't push for latest kernels like (k)ubuntu? | 03:04 |
holo | gnome is know by its usability, and is also very powerfull | 03:04 |
holo | xfce is very modular and light.. don't expect to have your life so easy if you want to tweak alot of things | 03:05 |
holo | eldalion: i don't have any experience in xubuntu, but I can say that if the repos are the same, you can pull whatever kernel kubuntu users pull | 03:06 |
eldalion | that's what i did, upgraded to 2.6.24, just wondered why it didn't come automatically | 03:07 |
holo | Technoid_India: by releaning a xfce only distribution of ubuntu, users can have a even more pleasant desktop experience because of all the work that is put by developers in configuring and integrating the various tools of this fine window manager | 03:08 |
holo | *releasing | 03:09 |
TD-Linux | ubuntu 7.10 doesn't have 2.6.24 | 03:09 |
eldalion | TD-Linux: yes, confused with the alpha | 03:09 |
j1mc | an ok article talking about suggestions for Xfce here: http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&2008/02/18/13/05/37-what-is-xfce-still-needing-to-be | 03:38 |
j1mc | thing that's different about xfce is that it's only about 5 or 6 core guys who work on it in their spare time. | 03:38 |
j1mc | it's not like gnome which has the backing of corporations and stuff. | 03:39 |
holo | TheSheep: when you are here read this: I loaded the same xubuntu image with vmware, and it works.. looks like it was bochs fault somehow.. amazing! | 03:51 |
cag | Hey, quick question | 05:00 |
cag | Is there command that could reset my xfce settings? | 05:00 |
cag | Because I can see the neither the top or bottom taskbar | 05:00 |
cag | thanks for none of your help | 05:07 |
Alex_001 | hey guys!, just want to ask if samba is installed as the same as ubuntu 7.10? | 05:38 |
Alex_001 | by default I mean | 05:38 |
zoredache | no it isn't installed by default | 05:39 |
zoredache | but installing it is pretty easy | 05:40 |
Alex_001 | i see | 05:40 |
zoredache | are you looking to setup a server, or just client stuff? | 05:40 |
zoredache | anyway to get everything do the following in a terminal -- sudo apt-get install samba smbfs smbclient fusesmb' | 05:41 |
Alex_001 | 'cause I'm planning to migrate to xubuntu from a zenwalk linux cause I couldn't get samba working there on my laptop and I couldn't browse my windows network | 05:41 |
zoredache | you understand that xfce has no integrated network browser? | 05:42 |
Alex_001 | just want to browse my windows network so I coould transfer files back and forth | 05:42 |
zoredache | you can user you network, but you cannot browse it with xfce | 05:43 |
Alex_001 | what to install then after I install samba some sort of network browser? | 05:43 |
Alex_001 | my laptop is an old p3 750Mhz and I couldn't get ubuntu boot from there it just froze | 05:44 |
zoredache | if you are looking just to browse you don't need samba, that is a server. There are several howtos that descibe setting up afuse and fusesmb | 05:44 |
zoredache | for example... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131 | 05:45 |
Alex_001 | does that same applies to zenwalk 5? | 05:46 |
zoredache | well I suspect there are similar things you could do on zenwalk, I doubt the steps are exacltly the same... I have never used it so I can't really answer that | 05:48 |
Alex_001 | i see | 05:49 |
Alex_001 | thanks for the info | 05:49 |
jared_ | Hey, is XFCE 4.2 faster or slower than XFCE 4.4? | 10:36 |
TheSheep | jared_: faster to do what? | 10:36 |
jared_ | erm, use? | 10:39 |
jared_ | internet pretty much | 10:39 |
jared_ | coz im using a slow machine atm | 10:39 |
jared_ | and I got a lot faster going from GNOME to XFCE 4.2 | 10:40 |
TheSheep | jared_: I'm afraid you cannot browse www with xfce, you usually use firefox or some other browser for that | 10:41 |
jared_ | -.- | 10:43 |
jared_ | using the internet on XFCE is a lot faster than on GNOME | 10:43 |
jared_ | what I asked is if it would be faster to go to 4.4, or stay on 4.2 | 10:43 |
TheSheep | I can assure you that xfce doesn't affect your internet speed | 10:45 |
TheSheep | so it should be the same for both of them | 10:45 |
jared_ | ergh | 10:45 |
jared_ | im not an idiot | 10:46 |
jared_ | I've done a CISCO course on networking and fundamental computing | 10:46 |
jared_ | and I know that my computer is a hell of a lot faster with XFCE than it was with GNOME, including internet usage | 10:47 |
jared_ | so I asked a simple question | 10:47 |
jared_ | is XFCE 4.4 faster or slower than 4.4? | 10:47 |
jared_ | *faster or slower than 4.2? | 10:48 |
TheSheep | jared_: I'm sorry but I'm too stupid to understand your simple question. Maybe there is someone else here who would know. Sorry for introducing confusion. | 10:48 |
jared_ | ur a dick | 10:49 |
DarthShrine | Lol. | 10:49 |
TheSheep | :( | 10:49 |
DarthShrine | Not quite sure where the relationship between xfce/gnome and internet speed is.. | 10:50 |
TheSheep | memory use probably | 10:51 |
TheSheep | and caching | 10:51 |
DarthShrine | Mmm | 10:52 |
DarthShrine | I still don't buy it xD | 10:52 |
TheSheep | "speed" is a very simple and obvious term that has no sense in computers :) | 10:53 |
DarthShrine | ;) | 10:54 |
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mino | hi :) how can i hide drive icons from my desktop? | 12:44 |
mino | no one a idea?? | 12:46 |
TheSheep | mino: settings->desktop settings->behavior | 12:49 |
TheSheep | mino: the "show icons for" section | 12:49 |
mino | TheSheep: but my created icons also get hidden... i only want to hide this auto generated | 12:52 |
TheSheep | mino: use the checkboxes below | 12:53 |
mino | if i use them its get ignored.. i can set only removable devices but i doesnt make any difference | 12:53 |
mino | TheSheep: must i restart restart xfce or somehting? | 12:54 |
TheSheep | mino: disable and enable the 'let xfce manage my desktop' at the top | 12:54 |
TheSheep | mino: this is an annoying bug | 12:54 |
mino | yeah really anoying also you must check the /trash box and disable and enable the upper box, then uncheck /trash and the trash link is gone | 12:57 |
TheSheep | mino: it's going to be completely rewritten for xfce 4.6 though :) | 12:59 |
slow-motion | hi | 14:02 |
Technoid_India | Hi Everyone !!! | 15:05 |
Technoid_India | ;-) | 15:05 |
Technoid_India | any body here !!! | 15:07 |
TheSheep | no | 15:10 |
TheSheep | just us, mice | 15:10 |
Technoid_India | TheSheep: can i know whats the basic requirements to install xubuntu ??? | 15:12 |
TheSheep | http://xubuntu.org/get#requirements | 15:13 |
Technoid_India | are the command same...as v use in ubuntu (apt get, sudo apt get).... | 15:15 |
TheSheep | yes | 15:16 |
TheSheep | apt-get | 15:16 |
Technoid_India | so whats the difference between ubuntu n xubuntu...??? window manager?? | 15:16 |
Technoid_India | TheSheep: n i can use all the software i used on my ubuntu workstation !!! | 15:17 |
TheSheep | the window manager, the panels, file manager, etc., the default set of applications and the default settings | 15:17 |
TheSheep | yes, you can even install ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu all at once and switch between them at the login screen | 15:17 |
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mino | hi i just plugin my headset, the sound of the boxes is still there and also on the headset :/ but i want only sound on my headset | 17:52 |
mino | i already checked the mixer, there are only master and pcm + mic rulers... no difference between boxes(builtin) and headset | 17:53 |
mino | hmm | 18:00 |
holo | hi | 18:03 |
maxamillion | mino: sound issues are kinda sketchy ... you might need to search around wiki.ubuntu.com for alsa configuration | 18:03 |
maxamillion | holo: hello | 18:03 |
holo | the installer is prompting me to cd1 | 18:03 |
holo | I don't want to put cd1 | 18:03 |
holo | I want to withraw to mainmenu | 18:04 |
holo | but I can't.. how can i do this? | 18:04 |
holo | hello maxamillion | 18:04 |
holo | is there any forcing method to go to main menu? | 18:06 |
holo | if not, this seems a installer missing option | 18:07 |
zoredache | what installer are you using, where are you at? | 18:09 |
zoredache | have you tried pressing ctrl-c | 18:09 |
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holo | trying | 18:14 |
holo | gutsy | 18:15 |
holo | i'm at prompt for first cd | 18:15 |
holo | he is stupid suddenly he doesn't know he loaded himself | 18:15 |
holo | the problem is i'm running this in vm | 18:15 |
holo | so it brings me some problems | 18:15 |
TheSheep | holo: did you have problems with the language menu previously? | 18:16 |
holo | TheSheep: those problems didn't happen anymore since i changed from bochs -> vmware | 18:16 |
TheSheep | holo: it would be probably still nice to report them | 18:16 |
holo | I'm still installing though.. but at a higher step | 18:16 |
holo | TheSheep: the problem is that I don't know where | 18:16 |
holo | where does this bug belong? | 18:17 |
TheSheep | !bugs | holo | 18:17 |
ubotu | holo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 18:17 |
holo | I alreaady informed #bochs about this | 18:17 |
holo | ok | 18:17 |
TheSheep | holo: fill it against the installer or the xubuntu as a whole | 18:17 |
holo | yes | 18:17 |
TheSheep | holo: probably better fro the installer | 18:17 |
holo | i'm also having now random hangs inside vmware | 18:20 |
holo | so i made replication and survival of the fitest, to gurantee it goes to the end | 18:20 |
holo | like 6 vms working at the same time with 64MB each | 18:21 |
TheSheep | %) | 18:21 |
holo | i had no other choice.. it just hangs, and always at different places | 18:22 |
TheSheep | later you can pit them against each other in dos attacks ;) | 18:22 |
holo | but it seems that since i made the replication, it doesn't hang anymore.. but i'm sticking to the model | 18:22 |
holo | anyway, this seems evil influence, i don't find other reason | 18:22 |
TheSheep | maybe your iso was cursed? | 18:23 |
holo | TheSheep: the ones that get further survive, others just die (removed) | 18:23 |
holo | TheSheep: maybe not cursed, but maybe my negative thought about being successfull in this task, bring bad events | 18:24 |
holo | even the impossible events can, will and already happened. my influence will make them probable of happening to me | 18:25 |
holo | the impossible events will hide themselves behind the laws we established for the universe, so we will never see them unless we adequate the laws | 18:26 |
* TheSheep brings an Occam's razor | 18:27 | |
holo | one of the vm's apparently died.. i was getting worried :) | 18:28 |
holo | zoredache: ctrl+c doesn't work | 18:29 |
holo | neither in the prompt, nor when imediatly after I prompt an invalid path | 18:30 |
zoredache | holo: have you considered that maybe your hardware is failing? If you are getting hang ups and weird behavior as frequently as you are describing then I would suggest you run memory test followed by a hard disk diagnostic | 18:32 |
holo | ok | 18:35 |
TheSheep | holo: you can switch to a shell with alt+f2 | 18:35 |
holo | can I dot memtest on boot and hd diagnostic with mounted partitions? | 18:36 |
holo | *memtest after boot | 18:36 |
holo | TheSheep: ehm.. I have X terminals | 18:36 |
holo | TheSheep: and its actually ctrl+alt+f2 from X | 18:36 |
TheSheep | holo: it's alt+f2 in text mode | 18:38 |
holo | TheSheep: yes, how do you think I am in text mode if I'm running 6 VM's? | 18:39 |
TheSheep | holo: the vms are in text mode | 18:40 |
TheSheep | holo: there ashould be some way to send alt+f2 to them | 18:40 |
holo | haa | 18:41 |
holo | TheSheep: sorry, I thought you were saying that in the host OS | 18:41 |
holo | ok, a moment | 18:41 |
holo | ok, i'm in busybox | 18:42 |
holo | thanks alot TheSheep | 18:42 |
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holo | TheSheep: this is funny: one of the replicas that survived diddn't ask for the CD.. this is really ?uc??dup.. do you believe now my theories?? | 19:38 |
holo | i'm now in xubuntu login | 19:40 |
holo | very nice sensation after this battle | 19:40 |
march | hi | 19:48 |
holo | hi | 19:48 |
isul | does google earth run on xubuntu? | 19:49 |
march | yes | 19:49 |
march | isul: http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntuusers.de%2FGoogle_Earth&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ASCII | 19:51 |
isul | thanks | 19:52 |
march | You're welcome! | 19:53 |
isul | oh wow | 20:13 |
march | Already installed google earth? | 20:13 |
isul | yeah | 20:13 |
isul | I installed it, but when I ran it for the first time it logged me off | 20:13 |
isul | that was wierd | 20:14 |
march | that's odd :/ | 20:14 |
isul | looked like it was going to work. the splash screen came up, but then I was back at xubuntu login | 20:14 |
march | 3D-acceleration is working? | 20:18 |
isul | yeah I was just thinking that. maybe integrated SiS video chip doesn't meet opengl requirements for google earth? | 20:18 |
isul | heh | 20:18 |
isul | that doesn't seem right either though, because the opposite is true on windows. opengl will work with this gpu while directx doesn't | 20:21 |
march | Have you Compiz activated? | 20:21 |
isul | umm, I dunno | 20:22 |
march | disable it if it's activated | 20:24 |
march | This may help | 20:24 |
march | http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart1.shtml#introduction | 20:27 |
holo | I can say that desktop xubuntu is a much more pleasant experience than kubuntu | 20:50 |
holo | in kubuntu I always have a colesterol feeling | 20:50 |
isul | like when you have eaten too many french fries? | 20:51 |
holo | yes | 20:55 |
holo | and a hamburger full of that white sauce | 20:55 |
holo | I think my mood can be improved in xubuntu | 20:55 |
holo | when I am mounting samba shares with pyneihborhood, it fails to mount | 21:02 |
holo | what can be happening here? | 21:02 |
holo | it sees the shares, but then it doesn't mount them | 21:02 |
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penney | Hi all: I'm getting crackly audio in my xfce based Ubuntu. It seems to only happen with videos, but I've basically uninstalled all my questionable codecs and only have gstreamer stuff left... I think it may be an alsa/oss issue I'm sort of a n00b when it comes to this. Does anyone have any suggestions? | 21:32 |
slow-motion | n8 | 21:33 |
encrypt128bit_ | anyone know if compiz fusion works with XFCE? | 22:07 |
eldalion | yes it does | 22:07 |
encrypt128bit_ | is there any special insall ways or can i install it just like unbuntu? | 22:07 |
eldalion | same as ubuntu | 22:08 |
encrypt128bit_ | Thanks | 22:08 |
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encrypt128bit | So im trying to install xubuntu, its failing to install the kernel and on tty4 im reading this: (apt-install: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Xubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbion_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/pool/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.46_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch <-- that mean my cd is probably corrupt? =p | 22:20 |
ron_o | encrypt128bit, it looks like it. | 22:36 |
ron_o | the thing is there might not be a real way of testing it to know for sure. I just d/l another one or reburn it if it md5s correctly. | 22:37 |
encrypt128bit | the md5 was fine on the iso | 22:38 |
ron_o | I thought that ubuntu has a way of checking the cd for defects, but I guess you at least have to boot some in order to get to that point. :/ | 22:38 |
encrypt128bit | and i checked the cd though the ubuntu check, and it said it was fine too | 22:38 |
encrypt128bit | =\ | 22:38 |
TheSheep | encrypt128bit: there is an optin at boot to check the cd for defects | 22:38 |
encrypt128bit | yea i did that | 22:38 |
encrypt128bit | it didnt find any defects | 22:38 |
ron_o | hmm, just repeat everything again before worrying too much. | 22:38 |
TheSheep | then it should be fine | 22:38 |
TheSheep | maybe the cd drive had a hiccup? | 22:39 |
ron_o | there are just so many possible scenarios to know for sure why it failed. My old computer wouldn't fricking read some CDs even though once I had an OS installed it worked fine. | 22:40 |
ron_o | never figured that one out. | 22:40 |
encrypt128bit | see this all goes back to my original problem, heh. what do you think this means? | 22:42 |
encrypt128bit | http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/jfiorini/linux%20install/?action=view¤t=100_1010.jpg | 22:42 |
encrypt128bit | thats a photo of my screen with the error message its giving me | 22:42 |
encrypt128bit | well, its pretty much the same as what the cd gives me, that was actually when i was using unetbootin to install ubuntu | 22:43 |
encrypt128bit | but i get this error every time i install no matter what i install from | 22:43 |
ron_o | are you doing a network install? | 23:06 |
ron_o | encrypt128bit, | 23:08 |
encrypt128bit | No | 23:08 |
encrypt128bit | on that screen shot i was using unetbootin | 23:08 |
encrypt128bit | so i was installing from the internet i guess | 23:09 |
ron_o | UNetbootin is a simple open source tool that allows you to install a variety of distributions over the Internet, without burning a CD. | 23:09 |
ron_o | yah, network install as it's said. | 23:09 |
ron_o | I don't know why it's failing. But you should just try the normal CD install. Reburn it if you have to, Burn it DAO, at the slowest speed possible. | 23:10 |
ron_o | always burn ISOs Dics at once, or DAO. | 23:11 |
encrypt128bit | yea | 23:13 |
encrypt128bit | i always do. | 23:13 |
encrypt128bit | for some reason it just isnt working... want me to show you what its doing right now with my cd? | 23:14 |
ron_o | sure. | 23:14 |
encrypt128bit | ron_o uploading a photo, link in a second | 23:20 |
encrypt128bit | ron_o: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/jfiorini/linux%20install/100_1349.jpg | 23:21 |
encrypt128bit | thats installing from the cd right now | 23:21 |
ron_o | it's an md5sum mismatch. Don't know what to tell you besides my advice already given. | 23:22 |
ron_o | that sux when that happens. | 23:22 |
encrypt128bit | yea, i know... but the cd checker from this cd doesnt detect any faults | 23:23 |
ron_o | maybe try another *ubuntu version and see if anything changes. | 23:23 |
encrypt128bit | and the md5 checks out on the iso | 23:23 |
encrypt128bit | ive tried ubuntu and kubuntu same thing happens every time. | 23:23 |
encrypt128bit | and ive used two different cd burners. *sigh* | 23:23 |
ron_o | sorry about that. I've been there too. It's totally frustrating. :/ | 23:23 |
ron_o | damn. | 23:24 |
encrypt128bit | yea, totally. | 23:24 |
encrypt128bit | if i could buy a hard drive with xubuntu already on it, i totoally would. | 23:24 |
encrypt128bit | heh | 23:24 |
ron_o | you like xubuntu that much? | 23:24 |
ron_o | xfce is great. | 23:25 |
encrypt128bit | I just heard ubuntu was a good build, i saw xfce on a friends computer i like it | 23:25 |
encrypt128bit | you know ive even tried installing fedora 8, and it doesnt work. | 23:26 |
ron_o | for just an OS that does about anything you want, with a lot of help. *Ubuntu is for you. | 23:26 |
encrypt128bit | I just think linux hates this machine | 23:26 |
ron_o | it could be your hardware. | 23:26 |
encrypt128bit | i dont see what would be wrong though, or what could be messing the install up. | 23:27 |
ron_o | like I said, an old machine I had would and then wouldn't install linux. It was so frustrating. | 23:27 |
encrypt128bit | Im on a newer machine though | 23:27 |
ron_o | oh.. | 23:27 |
ron_o | intel mobo? | 23:27 |
encrypt128bit | P4, a gig of ram, geforce 6800 | 23:27 |
ron_o | the thing is xubuntu has the latest kernel so you shouldn't have problems there. On this machine I found out I needed a kernal above 2.6.20 in order for me to install. | 23:28 |
ron_o | but your machine is probably older than 6 months. | 23:28 |
encrypt128bit | yea | 23:29 |
encrypt128bit | http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=59642&d=1202995686 my system specs in that file | 23:30 |
encrypt128bit | i have a epox motherboard | 23:30 |
ron_o | i need to log in in order to see it. I lost my account info. :/ | 23:31 |
encrypt128bit_ | Epox EP-4PLA(I) | 23:33 |
encrypt128bit_ | thats my motherboard. | 23:33 |
encrypt128bit_ | *shrug* havent heard of any problems with it, but maybe no one else has one using ubuntu | 23:33 |
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ron_o | you could try updating your BIOS. | 23:35 |
encrypt128bit | I've looked into it, but im unsure of where to find a newer bios | 23:36 |
encrypt128bit | especially one that you can get for free | 23:36 |
encrypt128bit | all i can find are places that want to sell you a bios upgrade | 23:36 |
ron_o | http://www.warp2search.net/contentteller/news_story/new_bios_updates_b9b3.html | 23:37 |
ron_o | look there for your mobo. | 23:37 |
ron_o | what happened on my new system was that the CDs couldn't find my CD/DVD player, which meant it couldn't insgtall. | 23:37 |
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