[00:56] <holo> TheSheep: Yes, of couse, i can verify the checksum. Are you still there?
[01:28] <Dirty> what livily room
[01:32] <holo> heh
[01:32] <holo> anyway.. I don't need to verify the checksum
[01:32] <holo> I know its corrupt
[01:32] <holo> I wget -c the iso, it was interrupted in the middle, and then resumed manually
[01:33] <holo> sometimes, don't know why, I get corrupted content
[01:33] <holo> guess I wasn't lucky this time
[01:33] <holo> ok, I will check it, or I won't sleep well
[01:38] <holo> 8a6e05a36ff5098ece6e3d28ad3b279a  xubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[01:38] <holo> strange, it matches the md5 checksum in the site
[01:38] <holo> this one: 8a6e05a36ff5098ece6e3d28ad3b279a *xubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[01:39] <holo> There is a very small probability that this corruption didn't get noticed my the md5 checksum algorithm
[01:39] <holo> i'm out of clues to my problem
[01:40] <holo> anyone knows a very fast server from which I cand download this again?
[01:41] <zoredache> holo: if you have a fast internet connection, then you could download the mini.iso and isntall from the internet
[01:41] <zoredache> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:42] <holo> zoredache: my internet connection fluctuates between extremely fast and extremly slow with great packet loss. But anyway, does that one have already X pre-installed?
[01:42] <zoredache> holo:  the mini.iso is an 8mb image that comes with absolutly nothing, but you can install anything you want from it
[01:45] <holo> I used alot of netinstalls from minimal cd back in debian times.. i also had alot of spare time at that time for configuring things manually. anyway, the cluttered cds also didn't have X pre-configured, so everything ended up being the same.
[01:45] <holo> in this situation i have to balance the time of getting this configured correctly or just download a fully/integrated environment out-of-the-bok
[01:46] <holo> and this is going to be ran in a bochs layer, so it will be not only slow because i have to configure it manually, but the whole system is slow
[01:46] <holo> :s
[01:48] <zoredache> why bochs?  why not one of the other faster vm technologies?
[01:48] <holo> zoredache: give me an option.
[01:49] <zoredache> vmware?
[01:49] <zoredache> parallels
[01:50] <zoredache> xen, ....  what is your guest os?
[01:51] <holo> zoredache: vmware: I have to create the vmware image which can only be created in vmawre workstation, which is not free. I have to create account, download it manually and I can only use it for a limited period of time right? I will make serious work in these vms for a long period of time
[01:51] <holo> parallels, i have to check that one
[01:52] <holo> zoredache: are you referring to this?: http://www.parallels.com/
[01:52] <holo> this is mac software it seems.
[01:52] <zoredache> holo: there are free versions of vmware... (vmware player, and vmware server)  I have been using vmware server on my workstation for a couple years
[01:53] <holo> zoredache: do any of those versions provide facility for creating vmware image?
[01:53] <zoredache> vmware server does
[01:53] <holo> zoredache: super!
[01:53] <zoredache> with vmware player, you can download a blank vm off the interweb then use that too
[01:54] <zoredache> so for vmware player, use http://www.easyvmx.com/ to create a blank vm
[01:54] <holo> zoredache: can I install an OS in a blank image with vmware player?
[01:54] <zoredache> yes
[01:54] <holo> ok zoredache, you bring me good news
[01:55] <zoredache> it isn't quite as easy but it can be done
[01:55] <zoredache> of course xen, virtualbox, or uml, are also options
[01:55] <zoredache> I am most familiar with vmware though... I have been using it since 1999
[01:56] <zoredache> for the other vm options check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines
[01:57] <holo> zoredache: I know vmware is good.. i will stick to it
[01:57] <holo> a state of the art tool
[01:58] <holo> now back to work!
[01:58] <holo> thank you very much zoredache, you saved me alot of time
[02:14]  * TD-Linux sees no point in vmware player
[02:14] <TD-Linux> vmware server works just as good :D
[02:17] <holo>  /usr/bin/vmplayer: 166: cannot open /etc/vmware/locations: No such file
[02:17] <holo> now this is a good start
[02:18] <holo> I see no ending in my hacking into others mistakes life
[02:19] <Technoid_India> hi every one...
[02:20] <zoredache> hi
[02:20] <Technoid_India> can i know whats the minimum configration to install xubuntu ???
[02:20] <Technoid_India> zoredache: Hi
[02:40] <holo> Technoid_India: I don't know, because I didn't check in in the page. Did you check it? anyway, tell me which CPU and memory and maybe I can see if you can
[02:41] <Technoid_India> holo: i am goin to install ubuntu my old pc >> P4 - 128MB RAM - 40GB Harddrive...
[02:42] <zoredache> 128 is on the slim side, but it may run.  You'll probably need to use the alternate-installer
[02:45] <Technoid_India> zoredache: yes..bro..i will be using alternate installer...
[02:46] <Technoid_India> so how is xubuntu different frm ubuntu ???
[02:46] <Technoid_India> n what file system should i use ???
[02:46] <holo> Technoid_India: yes, because livecd takes too much ram, go for alternate install.. xfce is pretty light.. also consider a 2.4 kernel.. it consumes less ram
[02:47] <Technoid_India> ext3 ???
[02:47] <holo> Technoid_India: ext3 is the slowest filesystem, go for reiserfs
[02:47] <holo> of course, just my humble opinion
[02:47] <Technoid_India> holo: so will it run smoothly on my pc....???
[02:48] <holo> Technoid_India: I own a amd 64 dual core or something xpto.. sometimes i think it doesn't run smoothly.. do you expect me to say that from those specs?
[02:48] <Technoid_India> n does it supports all ubuntu packeges???
[02:48] <holo> ^^
[02:49] <holo> Technoid_India: yes, the repositories are the same
[02:49] <Technoid_India> holo: i have a high end rig to bro....
[02:49] <Technoid_India> but im just tryin my luck on this old crap pc...
[02:50] <holo> its may not be crap pc.. it wasn't some years ago.. the pc is still the same, but maybe more used
[02:50] <holo> but still the same, so it should do what what it did some years ago
[02:50] <Technoid_India> can i use all the application (packages) that i used to run on ubuntu ???
[02:51] <holo> Technoid_India: yes you can. but don't run kde on it
[02:51] <holo> or gnome
[02:51] <holo> it would sound stupid :)
[02:51] <Technoid_India> kde - gnome apps ???
[02:51] <holo> yes you can
[02:52] <Technoid_India> holo: so i can do all my studio work on xubuntu...
[02:52] <holo> dunno, but I supose you run every app you ran in ubuntu
[02:52] <holo> except maybe for configuration tools of gnome
[02:52] <Technoid_India> audio/video >> recording n editing stuff ???
[02:53] <holo> Technoid_India: take it easy.. you should now more about your work than me
[02:53] <Technoid_India> then i will be sticking to xubuntu for this old pc....
[02:54] <Technoid_India> holo: thanx brother...for ur help..
[02:54] <holo> xubuntu is mainly a window manager alternative, window managers manage windows, that' all.. don't give so much importance to it
[02:54] <Technoid_India> why soo...
[02:55] <Technoid_India> that mens that i should stick to ubuntu...
[02:55] <holo> because its a window manager! its not about the applications you ran before
[02:55] <holo> the main important thing is that if you ran linux applications, they will still run in xubuntu, because xubuntu is a linux distribution
[02:55] <Technoid_India> this #channel isnt crowded enough !!!
[02:56] <holo> Technoid_India: depends on requirements, gnome is much more than a window manager (someone correct me if i'm wrong) and pretty damm heavy
[02:56] <holo> so with that machine i wouldn't run gnome, or better said, ubuntu version desktop
[03:00] <Technoid_India> holo: yes bro..gnome is damn Heavy...i tried to run ubuntu dextop installer on some new machines wid 256mb.... but it would take 15-25minutes to load the desktop itself....
[03:01] <holo> just the destkop? strange.. not even livecds take so much time
[03:01] <holo> anyway, yes, gnome is heavy, kde is heavy, xfce is not
[03:02] <holo> but don't expect to have the same level of integrated features in xfce
[03:02] <holo> everything comes with a but
[03:02] <Technoid_India> holo: but.... what ???
[03:03] <holo> kde for example has lots of features that make him being used by power users.. you can tweak anything
[03:04] <holo> with very user friendly interfaces
[03:04] <eldalion> is there a reason why xubuntu doesn't push for latest kernels like (k)ubuntu?
[03:04] <holo> gnome is know by its usability, and is also very powerfull
[03:05] <holo> xfce is very modular and light.. don't expect to have your life so easy if you want to tweak alot of things
[03:06] <holo> eldalion: i don't have any experience in xubuntu, but I can say that if the repos are the same, you can pull whatever kernel kubuntu users pull
[03:07] <eldalion> that's what i did, upgraded to 2.6.24, just wondered why it didn't come automatically
[03:08] <holo> Technoid_India: by releaning a xfce only distribution of ubuntu, users can have a even more pleasant desktop experience because of all the work that is put by developers in configuring and integrating the various tools of this fine window manager
[03:09] <holo> *releasing
[03:09] <TD-Linux> ubuntu 7.10 doesn't have 2.6.24
[03:09] <eldalion> TD-Linux: yes, confused with the alpha
[03:38] <j1mc> an ok article talking about suggestions for Xfce here: http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&2008/02/18/13/05/37-what-is-xfce-still-needing-to-be
[03:38] <j1mc> thing that's different about xfce is that it's only about 5 or 6 core guys who work on it in their spare time.
[03:39] <j1mc> it's not like gnome which has the backing of corporations and stuff.
[03:51] <holo> TheSheep: when you are here read this: I loaded the same xubuntu image with vmware, and it works.. looks like it was bochs fault somehow.. amazing!
[05:00] <cag> Hey, quick question
[05:00] <cag> Is there command that could reset my xfce settings?
[05:00] <cag> Because I can see the neither the top or bottom taskbar
[05:07] <cag> thanks for none of your help
[05:38] <Alex_001> hey guys!, just want to ask if samba is installed as the same as ubuntu 7.10?
[05:38] <Alex_001> by default I mean
[05:39] <zoredache> no it isn't installed by default
[05:40] <zoredache> but installing it is pretty easy
[05:40] <Alex_001> i see
[05:40] <zoredache> are you looking to setup a server, or just client stuff?
[05:41] <zoredache> anyway to get everything do the following in a terminal --  sudo apt-get install samba smbfs smbclient fusesmb'
[05:41] <Alex_001> 'cause I'm planning to migrate to xubuntu from a zenwalk linux cause I couldn't get samba working there on my laptop and I couldn't browse my windows network
[05:42] <zoredache> you understand that xfce has no integrated network browser?
[05:42] <Alex_001> just want to browse my windows network so I coould transfer files back and forth
[05:43] <zoredache> you can user you network, but you cannot browse it with xfce
[05:43] <Alex_001> what to install then after I install samba some sort of network browser?
[05:44] <Alex_001> my laptop is an old p3 750Mhz and I couldn't get ubuntu boot from there it just froze
[05:44] <zoredache> if you are looking just to browse you don't need samba, that is a server.  There are several howtos that descibe setting up afuse and fusesmb
[05:45] <zoredache> for example... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131
[05:46] <Alex_001> does that same applies to zenwalk 5?
[05:48] <zoredache> well I suspect there are similar things you could do on zenwalk,  I doubt the steps are exacltly the same...  I have never used it so I can't really answer that
[05:49] <Alex_001> i see
[05:49] <Alex_001> thanks for the info
[10:36] <jared_> Hey, is XFCE 4.2 faster or slower than XFCE 4.4?
[10:36] <TheSheep> jared_: faster to do what?
[10:39] <jared_> erm, use?
[10:39] <jared_> internet pretty much
[10:39] <jared_> coz im using a slow machine atm
[10:40] <jared_> and I got a lot faster going from GNOME to XFCE 4.2
[10:41] <TheSheep> jared_: I'm afraid you cannot browse www with xfce, you usually use firefox or some other browser for that
[10:43] <jared_> -.-
[10:43] <jared_> using the internet on XFCE is a lot faster than on GNOME
[10:43] <jared_> what I asked is if it would be faster to go to 4.4, or stay on 4.2
[10:45] <TheSheep> I can assure you that xfce doesn't affect your internet speed
[10:45] <TheSheep> so it should be the same for both of them
[10:45] <jared_> ergh
[10:46] <jared_> im not an idiot
[10:46] <jared_> I've done a CISCO course on networking and fundamental computing
[10:47] <jared_> and I know that my computer is a hell of a lot faster with XFCE than it was with GNOME, including internet usage
[10:47] <jared_> so I asked a simple question
[10:47] <jared_> is XFCE 4.4 faster or slower than 4.4?
[10:48] <jared_> *faster or slower than 4.2?
[10:48] <TheSheep> jared_: I'm sorry but I'm too stupid to understand your simple question. Maybe there is someone else here who would know. Sorry for introducing confusion.
[10:49] <jared_> ur a dick
[10:49] <DarthShrine> Lol.
[10:49] <TheSheep> :(
[10:50] <DarthShrine> Not quite sure where the relationship between xfce/gnome and internet speed is..
[10:51] <TheSheep> memory use probably
[10:51] <TheSheep> and caching
[10:52] <DarthShrine> Mmm
[10:52] <DarthShrine> I still don't buy it xD
[10:53] <TheSheep> "speed" is a very simple and obvious term that has no sense in computers :)
[10:54] <DarthShrine> ;)
[12:44] <mino> hi :) how can i hide drive icons from my desktop?
[12:46] <mino> no one a idea??
[12:49] <TheSheep> mino: settings->desktop settings->behavior
[12:49] <TheSheep> mino: the "show icons for" section
[12:52] <mino> TheSheep: but my created icons also get hidden... i only want to hide this auto generated
[12:53] <TheSheep> mino: use the checkboxes below
[12:53] <mino> if i use them its get ignored.. i can set only removable devices but i doesnt make any difference
[12:54] <mino> TheSheep: must i restart restart xfce or somehting?
[12:54] <TheSheep> mino: disable and enable the 'let xfce manage my desktop' at the top
[12:54] <TheSheep> mino: this is an annoying bug
[12:57] <mino> yeah really anoying also you must check the /trash box and disable and enable the upper box, then uncheck /trash and the trash link is gone
[12:59] <TheSheep> mino: it's going to be completely rewritten for xfce 4.6 though :)
[14:02] <slow-motion> hi
[15:05] <Technoid_India> Hi Everyone !!!
[15:05] <Technoid_India> ;-)
[15:07] <Technoid_India> any body here !!!
[15:10] <TheSheep> no
[15:10] <TheSheep> just us, mice
[15:12] <Technoid_India> TheSheep: can i know whats the basic requirements to install xubuntu ???
[15:13] <TheSheep> http://xubuntu.org/get#requirements
[15:15] <Technoid_India> are the command same...as v use in ubuntu (apt get, sudo apt get)....
[15:16] <TheSheep> yes
[15:16] <TheSheep> apt-get
[15:16] <Technoid_India> so whats the difference between ubuntu n xubuntu...??? window manager??
[15:17] <Technoid_India> TheSheep: n i can use all the software i used on my ubuntu workstation !!!
[15:17] <TheSheep> the window manager, the panels, file manager, etc., the default set of applications and the default settings
[15:17] <TheSheep> yes, you can even install ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu all at once and switch between them at the login screen
[17:52] <mino> hi i just plugin my headset, the sound of the boxes is still there and also on the headset :/ but i want only sound on my headset
[17:53] <mino> i already checked the mixer, there are only master and pcm + mic rulers... no difference between boxes(builtin) and headset
[18:00] <mino> hmm
[18:03] <holo> hi
[18:03] <maxamillion> mino: sound issues are kinda sketchy ... you might need to search around wiki.ubuntu.com for alsa configuration
[18:03] <maxamillion> holo: hello
[18:03] <holo> the installer is prompting me to cd1
[18:03] <holo> I don't want to put cd1
[18:04] <holo> I want to withraw to mainmenu
[18:04] <holo> but I can't.. how can i do this?
[18:04] <holo> hello maxamillion
[18:06] <holo> is there any forcing method to go to main menu?
[18:07] <holo> if not, this seems a installer missing option
[18:09] <zoredache> what installer are you using, where are you at?
[18:09] <zoredache> have you tried pressing ctrl-c
[18:14] <holo> trying
[18:15] <holo> gutsy
[18:15] <holo> i'm at prompt for first cd
[18:15] <holo> he is stupid suddenly he doesn't know he loaded himself
[18:15] <holo> the problem is i'm running this in vm
[18:15] <holo> so it brings me some problems
[18:16] <TheSheep> holo: did you have problems with the language menu previously?
[18:16] <holo> TheSheep: those problems didn't happen anymore since i changed from bochs -> vmware
[18:16] <TheSheep> holo: it would be probably still nice to report them
[18:16] <holo> I'm still installing though.. but at a higher step
[18:16] <holo> TheSheep: the problem is that I don't know where
[18:17] <holo> where does this bug belong?
[18:17] <TheSheep> !bugs | holo
[18:17] <ubotu> holo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[18:17] <holo> I alreaady informed #bochs about this
[18:17] <holo> ok
[18:17] <TheSheep> holo: fill it against the installer or the xubuntu as a whole
[18:17] <holo> yes
[18:17] <TheSheep> holo: probably better fro the installer
[18:20] <holo> i'm also having now random hangs inside vmware
[18:20] <holo> so i made replication and survival of the fitest, to gurantee it goes to the end
[18:21] <holo> like 6 vms working at the same time with 64MB each
[18:21] <TheSheep> %)
[18:22] <holo> i had no other choice.. it just hangs, and always at different places
[18:22] <TheSheep> later you can pit them against each other in dos attacks ;)
[18:22] <holo> but it seems that since i made the replication, it doesn't hang anymore.. but i'm sticking to the model
[18:22] <holo> anyway, this seems evil influence, i don't find other reason
[18:23] <TheSheep> maybe your iso was cursed?
[18:23] <holo> TheSheep: the ones that get further survive, others just die (removed)
[18:24] <holo> TheSheep: maybe not cursed, but maybe my negative thought about being successfull in this task, bring bad events
[18:25] <holo> even the impossible events can, will and already happened. my influence will make them probable of happening to me
[18:26] <holo> the impossible events will hide themselves behind the laws we established for the universe, so we will never see them unless we adequate the laws
[18:27]  * TheSheep brings an Occam's razor
[18:28] <holo> one of the vm's apparently died.. i was getting worried :)
[18:29] <holo> zoredache: ctrl+c doesn't work
[18:30] <holo> neither in the prompt, nor when imediatly after I prompt an invalid path
[18:32] <zoredache> holo: have you considered that maybe your hardware is failing?  If you are getting hang ups and weird behavior as frequently as you are describing then I would suggest you run memory test followed by a hard disk diagnostic
[18:35] <holo> ok
[18:35] <TheSheep> holo: you can switch to a shell with alt+f2
[18:36] <holo> can I dot memtest on boot and hd diagnostic with mounted partitions?
[18:36] <holo> *memtest after boot
[18:36] <holo> TheSheep: ehm.. I have X terminals
[18:36] <holo> TheSheep: and its actually ctrl+alt+f2 from X
[18:38] <TheSheep> holo: it's alt+f2 in text mode
[18:39] <holo> TheSheep: yes, how do you think I am in text mode if I'm running 6 VM's?
[18:40] <TheSheep> holo: the vms are in text mode
[18:40] <TheSheep> holo: there ashould be some way to send alt+f2 to them
[18:41] <holo> haa
[18:41] <holo> TheSheep: sorry, I thought you were saying that in the host OS
[18:41] <holo> ok, a moment
[18:42] <holo> ok, i'm in busybox
[18:42] <holo> thanks alot TheSheep
[19:38] <holo> TheSheep: this is funny: one of the replicas that survived diddn't ask for the CD.. this is really ?uc??dup.. do you believe now my theories??
[19:40] <holo> i'm now in xubuntu login
[19:40] <holo> very nice sensation after this battle
[19:48] <march> hi
[19:48] <holo> hi
[19:49] <isul> does google earth run on xubuntu?
[19:49] <march> yes
[19:51] <march> isul: http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntuusers.de%2FGoogle_Earth&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ASCII
[19:52] <isul> thanks
[19:53] <march> You're welcome!
[20:13] <isul> oh wow
[20:13] <march> Already installed google earth?
[20:13] <isul> yeah
[20:13] <isul> I installed it, but when I ran it for the first time it logged me off
[20:14] <isul> that was wierd
[20:14] <march> that's odd :/
[20:14] <isul> looked like it was going to work.  the splash screen came up, but then I was back at xubuntu login
[20:18] <march> 3D-acceleration is working?
[20:18] <isul> yeah I was just thinking that.  maybe integrated SiS video chip doesn't meet opengl requirements for google earth?
[20:18] <isul> heh
[20:21] <isul> that doesn't seem right either though, because the opposite is true on windows.  opengl will work with this gpu while directx doesn't
[20:21] <march> Have you Compiz activated?
[20:22] <isul> umm, I dunno
[20:24] <march> disable it if it's activated
[20:24] <march> This may help
[20:27] <march> http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart1.shtml#introduction
[20:50] <holo> I can say that desktop xubuntu is a much more pleasant experience than kubuntu
[20:50] <holo> in kubuntu I always have a colesterol feeling
[20:51] <isul> like when you have eaten too many french fries?
[20:55] <holo> yes
[20:55] <holo> and a hamburger full of that white sauce
[20:55] <holo> I think my mood can be improved in xubuntu
[21:02] <holo> when I am mounting samba shares with pyneihborhood, it fails to mount
[21:02] <holo> what can be happening here?
[21:02] <holo> it sees the shares, but then it doesn't mount them
[21:32] <penney> Hi all: I'm getting crackly audio in my xfce based Ubuntu.  It seems to only happen with videos, but I've basically uninstalled all my questionable codecs and only have gstreamer stuff left... I think it may be an alsa/oss issue I'm sort of a n00b when it comes to this.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[21:33] <slow-motion> n8
[22:07] <encrypt128bit_> anyone know if compiz fusion works with XFCE?
[22:07] <eldalion> yes it does
[22:07] <encrypt128bit_> is there any special insall ways or can i install it just like unbuntu?
[22:08] <eldalion> same as ubuntu
[22:08] <encrypt128bit_> Thanks
[22:20] <encrypt128bit> So im trying to install xubuntu, its failing to install the kernel and on tty4 im reading this: (apt-install:  Failed to fetch cdrom:[Xubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbion_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/pool/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.46_i386.deb Hash Sum mismatch <-- that mean my cd is probably corrupt? =p
[22:36] <ron_o> encrypt128bit, it looks like it.
[22:37] <ron_o> the thing is there might not be a real way of testing it to know for sure. I just d/l another one or reburn it if it md5s correctly.
[22:38] <encrypt128bit> the md5 was fine on the iso
[22:38] <ron_o> I thought that ubuntu has a way of checking the cd for defects, but I guess you at least have to boot some in order to get to that point. :/
[22:38] <encrypt128bit> and i checked the cd though the ubuntu check, and it said it was fine too
[22:38] <encrypt128bit> =\
[22:38] <TheSheep> encrypt128bit: there is an optin at boot to check the cd for defects
[22:38] <encrypt128bit> yea i did that
[22:38] <encrypt128bit> it didnt find any defects
[22:38] <ron_o> hmm, just repeat everything again  before worrying too much.
[22:38] <TheSheep> then it should be fine
[22:39] <TheSheep> maybe the cd drive had a hiccup?
[22:40] <ron_o> there are just so many possible scenarios to know for sure why it failed. My old computer wouldn't fricking read some CDs even though once I had an OS installed it worked fine.
[22:40] <ron_o> never figured that one out.
[22:42] <encrypt128bit> see this all goes back to my original problem, heh. what do you think this means?
[22:42] <encrypt128bit> http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/jfiorini/linux%20install/?action=view&current=100_1010.jpg
[22:42] <encrypt128bit> thats a photo of my screen with the error message its giving me
[22:43] <encrypt128bit> well, its pretty much the same as what the cd gives me, that was actually when i was using unetbootin to install ubuntu
[22:43] <encrypt128bit> but i get this error every time i install no matter what i install from
[23:06] <ron_o> are you doing a network install?
[23:08] <ron_o> encrypt128bit,
[23:08] <encrypt128bit> No
[23:08] <encrypt128bit> on that screen shot i was using unetbootin
[23:09] <encrypt128bit> so i was installing from the internet i guess
[23:09] <ron_o> UNetbootin is a simple open source tool that allows you to install a variety of distributions over the Internet, without burning a CD.
[23:09] <ron_o> yah, network install as it's said.
[23:10] <ron_o> I don't know why it's failing. But you should just try the normal CD install. Reburn it if you have to, Burn it DAO, at the slowest speed possible.
[23:11] <ron_o> always burn ISOs Dics at once, or DAO.
[23:13] <encrypt128bit> yea
[23:13] <encrypt128bit> i always do.
[23:14] <encrypt128bit> for some reason it just isnt working... want me to show you what its doing right now with my cd?
[23:14] <ron_o> sure.
[23:20] <encrypt128bit> ron_o uploading a photo, link in a second
[23:21] <encrypt128bit> ron_o: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/jfiorini/linux%20install/100_1349.jpg
[23:21] <encrypt128bit> thats installing from the cd right now
[23:22] <ron_o> it's an md5sum mismatch. Don't know what to tell you besides my advice already given.
[23:22] <ron_o> that sux when that happens.
[23:23] <encrypt128bit> yea, i know... but the cd checker from this cd doesnt detect any faults
[23:23] <ron_o> maybe try another *ubuntu version and see if anything changes.
[23:23] <encrypt128bit> and the md5 checks out on the iso
[23:23] <encrypt128bit> ive tried ubuntu and kubuntu same thing happens every time.
[23:23] <encrypt128bit> and ive used two different cd burners. *sigh*
[23:23] <ron_o> sorry about that. I've been there too. It's totally frustrating. :/
[23:24] <ron_o> damn.
[23:24] <encrypt128bit> yea, totally.
[23:24] <encrypt128bit> if i could buy a hard drive with xubuntu already on it, i totoally would.
[23:24] <encrypt128bit> heh
[23:24] <ron_o> you like xubuntu that much?
[23:25] <ron_o> xfce is great.
[23:25] <encrypt128bit> I just heard ubuntu was a good build, i saw xfce on a friends computer i like it
[23:26] <encrypt128bit> you know ive even tried installing fedora 8, and it doesnt work.
[23:26] <ron_o> for just an OS that does about anything you want, with a lot of help. *Ubuntu is for you.
[23:26] <encrypt128bit> I just think linux hates this machine
[23:26] <ron_o> it could be your hardware.
[23:27] <encrypt128bit> i dont see what would be wrong though, or what could be messing the install up.
[23:27] <ron_o> like I said, an old machine I had would and then wouldn't install linux. It was so frustrating.
[23:27] <encrypt128bit> Im on a newer machine though
[23:27] <ron_o> oh..
[23:27] <ron_o> intel mobo?
[23:27] <encrypt128bit> P4, a gig of ram, geforce 6800
[23:28] <ron_o> the thing is xubuntu has the latest kernel so you shouldn't have problems there. On this machine I found out I needed a kernal above 2.6.20 in order for me to install.
[23:28] <ron_o> but your machine is probably older than 6 months.
[23:29] <encrypt128bit> yea
[23:30] <encrypt128bit> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=59642&d=1202995686 my system specs in that file
[23:30] <encrypt128bit> i have a epox motherboard
[23:31] <ron_o> i need to log in in order to see it. I lost my account info. :/
[23:33] <encrypt128bit_> Epox EP-4PLA(I)
[23:33] <encrypt128bit_> thats my motherboard.
[23:33] <encrypt128bit_> *shrug* havent heard of any problems with it, but maybe no one else has one using ubuntu
[23:35] <ron_o> you could try updating your BIOS.
[23:36] <encrypt128bit> I've looked into it, but im unsure of where to find a newer bios
[23:36] <encrypt128bit> especially one that you can get for free
[23:36] <encrypt128bit> all i can find are places that want to sell you a bios upgrade
[23:37] <ron_o> http://www.warp2search.net/contentteller/news_story/new_bios_updates_b9b3.html
[23:37] <ron_o> look there for your mobo.
[23:37] <ron_o> what happened on my new system was that the CDs couldn't find my CD/DVD player, which meant it couldn't insgtall.