| * HedgeMage pokes ogra / ogra_cmpc gently, checking if he's awake | 02:18 | |
| HedgeMage | hi ogra | 03:45 |
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| LaserJock | I think he's asleep | 03:46 |
| HedgeMage | ahh | 03:46 |
| HedgeMage | what's up, LaserJock ? | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | I could be wrong since he's like always around, but it's 4 or 5am his time | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | oh, just trying to get some things done | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | had a new laser installed today, very exciting | 03:47 |
| HedgeMage | I can never keep track of who's in which time zone | 03:47 |
| HedgeMage | fun :) | 03:47 |
| achandrashekar | hello.after posting to edubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu-server Im still having a heck of a time with ldap auth with ltsp. It appears a bug that has been around since Dapper is STILL not resolved. As a result it makes it VERY difficult to promote edubuntu in an Infrastructure environment. Does anyone have a solution or work around for the libnss bug which causes a klog daemon lock up during boot? | 08:14 |
| johnny | well, try a newer version that isn't already with dapper? | 08:15 |
| achandrashekar | im using 7.10 | 08:15 |
| achandrashekar | there is no newer version with ltsp | 08:15 |
| achandrashekar | 5 | 08:15 |
| johnny | oh.. you're using gutsy, but the bug was from dapper? | 08:16 |
| johnny | you need to stick it out perhaps.. and come on here during their normal hours :) | 08:16 |
| johnny | but is there a newer version that isn't in gutsy even? | 08:16 |
| johnny | not ltsp, but libnss | 08:16 |
| achandrashekar | that is a good question...i suppose there may be a deb out there that I can upgrade to..and see what happens | 08:17 |
| achandrashekar | who knows what dependencies it will break though | 08:17 |
| johnny | backups are good | 08:18 |
| achandrashekar | I cant imagine though...that people who want to use such things as SMBLDAP for other things would "just wait it out" | 08:18 |
| achandrashekar | especially when ubuntu is making a public push to be "enterprise ready" | 08:18 |
| johnny | it seems that you're blazing a trail here.. using something a subset of a subset of a subset of what people want | 08:18 |
| achandrashekar | ya know? | 08:18 |
| johnny | sure, but they aren't perfect | 08:19 |
| achandrashekar | why blazing a trail? Its a setup that is in the wiki | 08:19 |
| johnny | that's why canoncial has a support contract option :) | 08:19 |
| achandrashekar | and across two how to's that are posted | 08:19 |
| johnny | i wouldn't know.. i've never done anything like that, nor am i affiliated with canoncial either | 08:19 |
| achandrashekar | yeah...i get the picture... just very frustrating.. | 08:20 |
| johnny | but this is truly why they have a contract option | 08:20 |
| achandrashekar | it sits in the bug cue... | 08:20 |
| johnny | just wanted to mention that, in case you thought i was really involved with edubuntu | 08:20 |
| johnny | it'd be nice to find somebody who was doing ltsp stuff locally.. | 08:21 |
| achandrashekar | yeah..they all use the "out of the box" two nic method | 08:21 |
| achandrashekar | and then complain that they cant boot more than 15 boxes. | 08:21 |
| achandrashekar | I have an athlon x2 setup with dhcp failover and it works bitchin | 08:22 |
| achandrashekar | all i need is this auth piece | 08:22 |
| achandrashekar | and im golden | 08:22 |
| achandrashekar | so that kind of is why im frustrated. | 08:22 |
| achandrashekar | Some long nights putting the pieces together. | 08:22 |
| johnny | don't i know it | 08:22 |
| achandrashekar | and now i have an unbootable system... | 08:22 |
| achandrashekar | damn | 08:22 |
| johnny | i had enough troubles getting my 4 client setup working | 08:22 |
| johnny | i'm looking forward to hardy | 08:23 |
| achandrashekar | but im not here to bitch..(which may come across that way) | 08:23 |
| achandrashekar | just trying to get to a point where stuff works. | 08:23 |
| achandrashekar | what is the release date for hardy? | 08:23 |
| johnny | ubuntu's update policy sometimes causes some fixes not to get included, because the upstream developers (or others) posted patches that were a bit too invasive | 08:24 |
| johnny | april sometime iirc | 08:24 |
| achandrashekar | I see. This LDAP thing is like a bread/butter component of any Enterprise system. It is really really important IMHO | 08:25 |
| johnny | if i had enough clients , i'm sure i would have already ran into it | 08:26 |
| johnny | and tried to resolve it | 08:26 |
| johnny | but i'm geeky enough to force it :) | 08:26 |
| johnny | trolling irc and forums all over the place | 08:27 |
| johnny | and jumping in the code and stuff | 08:27 |
| achandrashekar | heh..cool | 08:27 |
| achandrashekar | might have to do the same in the debian channel.. | 08:27 |
| achandrashekar | and see what happens | 08:27 |
| achandrashekar | im sure it affects them too. | 08:27 |
| johnny | what about the main #ltsp channel | 08:27 |
| johnny | that's where you should prolly hang out | 08:27 |
| johnny | don't bug the debianers | 08:27 |
| johnny | they might be startled | 08:28 |
| achandrashekar | not a bad idea. | 08:28 |
| johnny | or upset, depending on how they feel about ubuntu | 08:28 |
| johnny | being involved in projects is often more about politics than technical issues | 08:29 |
| johnny | so you better be careful out there | 08:29 |
| achandrashekar | yes...i here you...fork after fork after fork...people upset...and then they hit you with a spoon :) | 08:29 |
| achandrashekar | lol | 08:29 |
| johnny | most of the folks who are deeply involved in ltsp stuff seem to only come about during US/Europe daytime hours | 08:30 |
| johnny | a bit later in europe..but still | 08:30 |
| johnny | you always come here around 2-4am my time | 08:31 |
| johnny | when nobody else is around | 08:31 |
| achandrashekar | oh my | 08:33 |
| achandrashekar | i see. | 08:33 |
| achandrashekar | its 12 PST time | 08:33 |
| achandrashekar | and that is when I wind down... | 08:33 |
| achandrashekar | just a few more hours then..i see no problem in waiting. | 08:33 |
| achandrashekar | thanks. | 08:33 |
| johnny | you wind down by trying to make ltsp work? | 08:34 |
| johnny | lol | 08:34 |
| johnny | i wish i could afford to work on this stuff fulltime.. | 08:38 |
| achandrashekar | No...its on my time at a school I work at. I used to be full time IT guy, that basically decided to help students in a low socioecomonic area with Math. | 08:39 |
| achandrashekar | But it appears...bad leadership cant be fixed and as a result i wanted to continue to stay sharp | 08:39 |
| achandrashekar | in Linux | 08:39 |
| achandrashekar | because that world moves REAL fast unlike education. | 08:39 |
| achandrashekar | So... I spend my time after school trying to help as well as learn | 08:40 |
| achandrashekar | ;) | 08:40 |
| achandrashekar | its a tricky proposition | 08:40 |
| achandrashekar | philanthropy and eating dont mix to well. | 08:40 |
| achandrashekar | hence your comment on paid support makes perfect sense. | 08:41 |
| achandrashekar | :) | 08:41 |
| johnny | ogra.. we're finally getting the duplicate filenames bug solved | 09:11 |
| johnny | in sabayon that is | 09:11 |
| johnny | the other things that need badly fixed are some issues when removng panel items | 09:11 |
| johnny | which are registered in launchpad | 09:11 |
| johnny | it could be related to the duplicate files bug tho | 09:11 |
| johnny | when i get the patch in, i'll let you know | 09:11 |
| Nubae | hi there... | 10:36 |
| Nubae | anyone know if ed(ubuntu) is going to be at fosdem this weekend in brussels? | 10:37 |
| Nubae | from what I've read there doesn't seem to be much ubuntu stuff happening there | 10:37 |
| juliux | ogra, take a look at http://ubuntu.juliux.de/tassen.jpg | 11:13 |
| ogra | juliux, sweet | 11:52 |
| juliux | ogra, if you are in hannover give me a hint then you will get a edubuntu mug;) | 11:57 |
| ogra_cmpc | juliux, willdo | 12:16 |
| jvanrooyen | Hi all, having some difficulties after edubuntu install. I'm trying to login on one of the clients and it gives me this error: this workstation is not authorised to connect to server. Can anyone help? | 12:17 |
| ogra_cmpc | jvanrooyen, which release | 12:20 |
| jvanrooyen | ogra_cmpc: Gutsy | 12:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | sudo lttsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image | 12:21 |
| ogra_cmpc | copy/paste that line to a terminal on the server | 12:21 |
| jvanrooyen | Oh ok, what will that specifically do? | 12:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | i guess you changed your IP data after install | 12:22 |
| juliux | sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-imag | 12:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | it will generate new ssh keys for the cdurrently active interfaces and copy them into the client env | 12:22 |
| jvanrooyen | oh yes I did | 12:22 |
| juliux | that is the correct line vor copy/paste;) | 12:22 |
| juliux | sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image | 12:23 |
| juliux | sorry:( | 12:23 |
| ogra_cmpc | the second command will recompress the ltsp image so the change gets actually promoted | 12:23 |
| jvanrooyen | ogra_cmpc: I did the 1st command | 12:26 |
| jvanrooyen | ogra_cmpc: The 2nd command takes some time though | 12:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | yeah | 12:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | it recompresses about 300-400M | 12:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | that takes a moment | 12:27 |
| jvanrooyen | oh ok its done now | 12:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | reboot the clients and it should work | 12:27 |
| jvanrooyen | Ok give me a sec I'll let you know now now... | 12:27 |
| jvanrooyen | ogra_cmpc: Thanks very much all is good now | 12:32 |
| ogra_cmpc | :) | 12:32 |
| jvanrooyen | Thanks guys | 12:32 |
| jvanrooyen | Yippee | 12:32 |
| Vaajda | can someone pls tell me if ubuntu can use 2 internet connection at the same time | 12:37 |
| ogra_cmpc | can you elaborate what exactly you mean by "use 2 internet connection at the same time" ? | 12:38 |
| ogra_cmpc | in tcp/ip you can only have one default route | 12:39 |
| ogra_cmpc | thats not depending on any OS | 12:39 |
| ogra_cmpc | s/have/use/ | 12:40 |
| Vaajda | i want to have 2 connection on 1 pc and use both of them at the same time | 13:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | your system can only use one at a time | 13:12 |
| RichEd | Vaajda: you mean two network connections ... | 13:12 |
| ogra_cmpc | right, thats what i suspect as well | 13:12 |
| RichEd | you can have one network interface pointing to your internal network | 13:12 |
| RichEd | and the other to the internet | 13:13 |
| RichEd | but two interfaces configured to both go to the internet would make your machine unhappy | 13:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | no | 13:13 |
| ogra_cmpc | it just would pick one | 13:14 |
| Vaajda | i want to use one connection for say ktorrent and the other for the internet and gaming | 13:14 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, as i said you can have multiple connections but only one thats used for the default outbound route | 13:15 |
| Vaajda | unless i use vwmare | 13:16 |
| ogra_cmpc | wven vmware would go through the host systems default interface in the end | 13:16 |
| ogra_cmpc | you could probably play with tun/tap interfaces etc | 13:17 |
| Vaajda | but i could have 2 ips being vmware makes one computer into 2 or 3 | 13:17 |
| ogra_cmpc | sure, but the packets will use the hosts default route unless you fiddle with virtual tun/tap interfaces to bend it | 13:19 |
| Vaajda | because vwmare isnt a emulator | 13:19 |
| ogra_cmpc | it surely possible | 13:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | but a lot of work | 13:20 |
| Vaajda | its would be cool tho | 13:20 |
| Vaajda | it* | 13:20 |
| Vaajda | what if i use another computer that is running linux with IP Masquerading | 13:21 |
| ogra_cmpc | if that sits on a different DSL line that should work | 13:22 |
| johnny | i use that tuntap thing for virtualbox | 13:22 |
| johnny | so i cna run it as ltsp | 13:22 |
| Vaajda | itsp?? | 13:22 |
| Vaajda | im a noob to linux | 13:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | i use the internal net for vbox to boot virtual clients :) | 13:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | Vaajda, Linux Terminal Server Project | 13:23 |
| ogra_cmpc | LTSP | 13:23 |
| Vaajda | o lol | 13:23 |
| johnny | ogra, i can boot internal and external clients tho :) | 13:23 |
| ogra_cmpc | i boot my external ones from a real server :) | 13:23 |
| johnny | i don't have that much hardware | 13:24 |
| * ogra_cmpc is drowning in HW being upstream ltsp for a while you get a lot free HW | 13:24 | |
| Vaajda | ok i got another question what should i use to play windows based games with | 13:25 |
| pygi | :p | 13:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | indeeed only the underpowered crap you cant use for anything else but thin clients :P | 13:25 |
| pygi | :) | 13:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | Vaajda, look at holarse.net some win games run under wine | 13:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | they have a section for that on the website somewhere | 13:27 |
| Vaajda | its in another lang | 13:28 |
| ogra_cmpc | i thought they had english pages | 13:28 |
| ogra_cmpc | hmm | 13:28 |
| Vaajda | man i hate being a noob lol | 13:29 |
| ogra_cmpc | linux-games.org then probably ... or google :) | 13:29 |
| * ogra_cmpc doesnt play any win games ... so he has no idea | 13:29 | |
| johnny | i just use wine .. | 13:29 |
| johnny | check the wine appdb list for compatibility with your games | 13:29 |
| RichEd | johnny: i just use beer ... if i have enough of them then i think snoop dog is cool, not computers | 13:32 |
| Vaajda | ok thanks | 13:32 |
| Vaajda | i play a mmorpg and when i was using windows (which was like 3 hours ago) the game would work with my computer anymore i think b/c of adware, spyware, etc | 13:34 |
| Vaajda | wouldnt | 13:34 |
| johnny | running sabayon inside a vbox isn't so fun | 13:34 |
| ogra_cmpc | how about running sabayon inside of sabayon ? | 13:35 |
| * ogra_cmpc never checked if thats possible | 13:35 | |
| johnny | supposed to be impossible | 13:35 |
| johnny | i've seen the check inside the code | 13:35 |
| ogra_cmpc | supposed ..... | 13:35 |
| ogra_cmpc | :) | 13:35 |
| johnny | well.. sabayon isn't running too nicely with xephyr, i tried a quick hack to get it running | 13:38 |
| johnny | i see the desktop render , and then it crashes, and then in the console (running via gksu sabayon) i see it hanging on check for texture_from_pixmap | 13:39 |
| ogra_cmpc | sounds like compiz | 13:41 |
| johnny | it's just problem after problem here :( | 13:44 |
| johnny | and i'm mucking around in areas i only understand superficially | 13:44 |
| johnny | like autotools stuff | 13:45 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, i saked the compiz maintainer about it in -devel | 13:45 |
| ogra_cmpc | (he's also teh apt maintainer, so busy with that atm) | 13:45 |
| ogra_cmpc | johnny, can you come over to #ubuntu-devel ? | 13:46 |
| johnny | it'd be nice if there were some gui tools to manage the global /etc/xdg and /etc/gconf | 13:53 |
| ogra_cmpc | i think there are | 13:54 |
| ogra_cmpc | desktop-file-utils or so | 13:54 |
| johnny | gui? | 13:54 |
| johnny | don't look like it to me. | 13:56 |
| Vaajd1 | ok im about to throw my computer out my window | 15:46 |
| Vaajd1 | it keeps freezing and i cant use ctrl + alt + backspace | 15:47 |
| daishujin | is it a thin client? | 16:00 |
| Vaajd1 | huh | 16:00 |
| Vaajd1 | im a noob | 16:01 |
| daishujin | Vaajd1, did you install the desktop version of Edubuntu, or the thinclient classroom server | 16:02 |
| Vaajd1 | unbuntu 7.04 | 16:02 |
| daishujin | ok | 16:02 |
| Vaajd1 | #ubuntu would help | 16:02 |
| Vaajd1 | wounldnt | 16:02 |
| daishujin | ok | 16:03 |
| daishujin | do you know how to check your logs? | 16:03 |
| daishujin | and how long after booting does it take for the computer to freeze? | 16:04 |
| Vaajd1 | it if i open firefox | 16:05 |
| daishujin | hmmmm | 16:05 |
| Vaajd1 | and i dont know how to check logs but i have to reboot every time | 16:05 |
| daishujin | do you know how much RAM your computer has? | 16:06 |
| Vaajd1 | 1.5 gigs | 16:06 |
| Vaajd1 | cpu is 2.0 and overclocked to 2.3 | 16:06 |
| daishujin | ok, and what kind of video card do you have? | 16:07 |
| Vaajd1 | 256mb ati readion x85pro | 16:07 |
| Vaajd1 | 850* | 16:07 |
| daishujin | ok | 16:07 |
| Vaajd1 | im trying to upgrade to 7.10 to see if that will fix it | 16:08 |
| daishujin | is the computer that is crashing, the one you are talking from now? | 16:08 |
| Vaajd1 | yeah | 16:08 |
| daishujin | can you open up a terminal? | 16:09 |
| Vaajd1 | yea | 16:09 |
| daishujin | ok now try typing 'less /var/log/messages' and maybe send them in a /msg so as not to spam the channel | 16:11 |
| Vaajd1 | did u get my msg | 16:12 |
| daishujin | actually, on second thought maybe 'tail /var/log/messages' might be better | 16:12 |
| daishujin | no | 16:12 |
| Vaajd1 | how do i register my nick | 16:13 |
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| daishujin | you use nickserv '/msg nickserv register yourpass' | 16:13 |
| lovemedo | edubuntu rocks! | 17:45 |
| lns | woooooooooo!! Nautilus sighandler bug is fixed and in repos! =) Happy day! | 17:50 |
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| === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser | ||
| grezer | Nouroxx its asking this question Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web | 22:42 |
| grezer | ok now I have a question I am installing ISPCONFIG AHHH and its asking me for " Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web " | 22:42 |
| grezer | Nouroxx its asking this question Please enter the IP address of the ISPConfig web | 22:43 |
| grezer | is that the IP address for my server or my router ?? | 22:43 |
| grezer | exit | 22:44 |
| grezer | exit | 22:44 |
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