[00:04] <keto> i download firefox from google pack i like to intall it on kubuntu anyone has an idea how?
[00:05] <SlimeyPete> why not just use apt-get/adept?
[00:05] <keto> actually i have an icon firefox2.0.0 on my desskkktop
[00:05] <SlimeyPete> "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[00:05] <SlimeyPete> job done.
[00:06] <SlimeyPete> erm
[00:06] <SlimeyPete> "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[00:06] <SlimeyPete> even
[00:06] <niall_> ;)
[00:06] <SlimeyPete> <-- used to use Debian ;)
[00:17] <sMonk> stdin: Hello!
[00:18] <mike18> i'm using kubuntu 7.04 > fresh install last night. I used Adept-Manager to get nvidia-glx-new driver for my Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT. It says it's installed, but in my xorg.conf it's using "nv" and I don't see any Nvidia GUI for changing any settings
[00:19] <ForzaPalermo> hey when is kde 4 gonna acutall ybe functional
[00:19] <ForzaPalermo> it is so hard to use now
[00:30] <Daisuke_Ido> ForzaPalermo: i would wait for 4.1
[00:31] <swatto> hi all
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> all hail the Ibex!
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> :)
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> also known as 8.10
[00:54] <Arwen> Ibex?
[00:54]  * Arwen is listening to Portal: Still Alive by Jonathan Coulton & GlaDOS on The Orange Box [Amarok]
[00:55] <Arwen> "for the good of all of us... except the ones who are dead"
[00:58] <WeedGrinch> I have my website setup at http://localhost/vanduski.com   How do i make it so my site can be view from my ip address?
[00:58] <xxBasYxx> hi, where can i found list of profesional sound cards with good support and software for ubuntu?
[00:59] <nosrednaekim> !hardware
[00:59] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[00:59] <nosrednaekim> WeedGrinch » you need to use dyndns
[00:59] <WeedGrinch> ok ty
[01:00] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, or just regular DNS
[01:00] <WeedGrinch> Well, eventually i want my domain to point to it
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> Arwen » but then I think you'd have to pay to have a static IP and all
[01:01] <WeedGrinch> how would i do that/
[01:01] <WeedGrinch> How do i make my DNS for my domain point to my localhost site?
[01:01] <NickPresta> WeedGrinch, forward port 80 to your machine, use your IP address. See if that works. If that works, create an account on dyndns.com and create a mask for your site (I like .ath.cx)
[01:02] <WeedGrinch> How do i forward ports?
[01:02] <WeedGrinch> on ubuntu
[01:02] <Arwen> I like .boldlygoingnowhere.org :-P
[01:02] <Arwen> WeedGrinch, you usually configure your router to do that
[01:02] <NickPresta> heh
[01:02] <WeedGrinch> no router, modem
[01:02] <minterior> hello. I have a question about bash scripts: how can i pass all the received parameters in one script.sh to another binary execution?
[01:02] <Arwen> no need, firewall is off by default
[01:03] <WeedGrinch> when i view my ip, i get my modem settings login
[01:04] <NickPresta> WeedGrinch, usually, 192.168.1.1. Input password, find your router on (http://portforward.com/) and forward port 80 to your machine (192.168.1.100 or what ever)
[01:04] <WeedGrinch> ok ty
[01:04] <thechris> I need help getting a microphone working
[01:17] <Israphel> :O
[01:21] <keto> en español
[01:21] <keto> !es
[01:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:22] <vanchuck> I'm trying to get my keyboard's "next track" and "prev track" to work with Amarok... I have the keys mapped to the proper keys, and the shortcuts are set up properly in Amarok
[01:23] <vanchuck> if Amarok has focus, the keys work, but otherwise they don't
[01:23] <Israphel> try using KeyTouch
[01:23] <Israphel> I use keytouch
[01:23] <Israphel> its works great
[01:23] <vanchuck> The alternate keys are Win+B and Win+Z, and those work fine globally, but just not the XF86MediaNext/Prev :-\
[01:23] <vanchuck> ok, will give it a try, thx :-)
[01:24] <WeedGrinch> Ok i tried to forward port 80 useing portforwarding.com and it wont work :(
[01:24] <WeedGrinch> i still get my router login, and for other people it times out
[01:24] <WeedGrinch> Any other way i can do this?
[01:26] <Israphel> keytouch has a lot of keyboards models
[01:26] <Israphel> or you can configure manually
[01:28] <mali> guys I am having trouble with my webcam I am getting "can`t connect to the video device (/dev/video0) when I try to run camorama
[01:29] <Israphel> search about the model
[01:29] <Israphel> of the cam
[01:29] <keto> how ti install sun-java6-plugin??
[01:29] <Israphel> download the installer from the page
[01:29] <mali> It was running after I recompiled the gspca but stopped after restart
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> vanchuck » did you use global shortcuts (in amarok)
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> keto- it should be listed in Adept if you have all the repositories enabled
[01:30] <Fritzel> I'm attempting to install Kubuntu, however I have an issue with my cdrom that I am not able to resolve, so as an alternative I'm trying to find a way to install Kubuntu off of a USB flash drive, can anyone point me in the proper direction for setting up the usb drive to do that?
[01:30] <keto> i try the adept but it close by itself
[01:31] <Israphel> in the setup of your pc
[01:31] <Israphel> select usb-hdd
[01:31] <Israphel> in the boot sequence
[01:32] <vanchuck> nosrednaekim: yes... for example for next track, there are 2 shortcuts, one is Win+B, the other is XF86AudioNext
[01:32] <vanchuck> Win+B works fine globally, but XF86AudioNext doesn't... it only works if Amarok has focus
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> vanchuck » odd
[01:32] <vanchuck> tried changing the order of the 2, to no avail
[01:33] <vanchuck> nosrednaekim: yeah, my only though is that some other program or util is intercepting it, but I can't find it anywhere... KDE menu has no such shortcuts, neither does any other media program I have installed
[01:33] <vanchuck> my only thought*
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> vanchuck » huh..... XF86AudioNext works fine here.
[01:34] <Israphel> use Keytouch
[01:34] <Israphel> sudo apt-get install keytouch
[01:34] <Fritzel> nevermind found the site I was thinking of pendrivelinux.com
[01:35] <vanchuck> Israphel: setting up keytouch now-- doesn't have my keyboard so doing it manually :-)
[01:35] <Israphel> good
[01:35] <Israphel> i have the genius luxmate
[01:35] <Israphel> but i also tried with a nimitz
[01:35] <Israphel> (not in the list)
[01:35] <Israphel> and it worked
[01:48] <WeedGrinch> OK, i got it so http://10.0.0.7/ points  to my server instead of logging in to my modem settings, now what do i do??
[01:50] <arce> hi
[01:51] <tcm_> arce: hi
[01:52] <arce> ???
[02:01] <brhsh_> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:08] <me> Hi there, is there a command that can list all currently open files and which application is using the file?
[02:14] <keto> !es
[02:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're in the northern hemisphere and it's dark and clear, you might want to step outside for a bit :)
[02:24] <fignew> OUTSIDE??!?
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i know, it's scary
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> but hey, total lunar eclipse :)
[02:30] <DZEJMS007> prica ko hrvatski
[02:30] <DZEJMS007> need some info
[02:36] <scaz0r> hi
[02:37] <scaz0r> can someone help me out here whit a problem ?
[02:37] <NickPresta> scaz0r, what sort of problem?
[02:38] <scaz0r> im newbie, i installed yesterday for first time linux
[02:38] <scaz0r> i have no sound
[02:38] <NickPresta> !sound
[02:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:38] <gtt> how do i disable an action that occurs when a blank disc is automatically inserted in KDE?
[02:38] <gtt> permanently and a temp-disable over-ride keystroke would be great....
[02:39] <scaz0r> well... i have tried some things
[02:39] <NickPresta> make sure ARTS is running by following those instructions, scaz0r. Then, use this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#head-e84f006dcbea90e29447ef97f32af397487fe7fb  Make sure your audio channel is not muted.
[02:40] <scaz0r> i think it is not
[02:41] <scaz0r> first time i runned linux i got only noise
[02:41] <scaz0r> and then i have installed a driver
[02:41] <scaz0r> at least now it is mute
[02:42] <scaz0r>  i was reading
[02:42] <scaz0r> and think this is my solution
[02:42] <scaz0r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587694&page=2
[02:42] <scaz0r> but..
[02:42] <scaz0r> i do not know how to do it
[02:43] <NickPresta> gtt, Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" (without quotes). Click on Peripherals > Storage Media > Under Medium Types change the selection to Blank CD > Add an Action
[02:44] <NickPresta> scaz0r, that thread is about resolution problems in GNOME
[02:45] <scaz0r> mmmm
[02:45] <scaz0r> ok
[02:45] <NickPresta> nevermind, I see the section about sound, further down. I don't think you need to do that
[02:45] <NickPresta> Have you tried all the possible solutions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[02:46] <icanhasadmin> and do you have a toshiba laptop? :P
[02:46] <scaz0r> no
[02:47] <scaz0r> gateway t6815
[02:47] <scaz0r> thx
[02:47] <scaz0r> i will try on those things
[02:47] <icanhasadmin> Yeah, follow that link, you'll get it working
[02:47] <scaz0r> thx guys
[02:48] <scaz0r> another thing
[02:49] <scaz0r> what is the difference between the live cd and the 4gb one?
[02:49] <sca344> newb alert. how come i can not play video in kaffiene
[02:50] <frank23> sca344: what are you tring to playÉ
[02:50] <frank23> ?
[02:50] <sca344> a dvd
[02:50] <frank23> !dvd
[02:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:50] <frank23> !restricted
[02:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <sca344> it says: no plugin found to handle this resource dvd:///dev/hdc
[02:50] <frank23> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:51] <frank23> sca344: look there ^
[02:51] <frank23> sca344: there is no dvd support by default
[02:52] <sca344> thank you
[02:52] <sca344> i am able to play the dvd in mplayer but it makes a wierd noise
[02:52] <sca344> like am radio and you hit the gas peddle.. that sound
[03:02] <[b]b_> quick Q: append beginnign and end of file { /s/^$/ n/ } ?
[03:02] <[b]b_> sed
[03:04] <Stoffer> does anyone have any idea why gparted and the windows disk manager keep failing to format my maxtor external hard drive in NTFS?
[03:05] <Stoffer> and if I format it ext2, is there any special tags I need to set in mkfs.ext2 to get windows to recognize it and be able to write to it?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> !ext3
[03:05] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> Stoffer » not that I know of
[03:11] <Stoffer> well, I'd rather not have to install that driver on the several windows machines I'm planning to connect this hdd to, as they're not mine
[03:14] <intelikey> is this one of those typical things where open source is expected to bend over backwards and go the extra mile to acomadate propritary thinking ?
[03:14] <AndreSTC> im running kubuntu 7.10, is there a problem if i install gparted?(from gnome)
[03:14] <intelikey> sorry i did just arrive.  and don't know what's the first half of that.
[03:14] <intelikey> AndreSTC nope.  not at all.
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- reading ext3 drives from Windows
[03:15] <intelikey> AndreSTC there is also qtparted
[03:15] <AndreSTC> intelikey oh, i talked to you last night.
[03:15] <intelikey> im sorry
[03:15] <AndreSTC> intelikey qtparted is pretty much the same thing?
[03:15] <intelikey> pretty much
[03:15] <AndreSTC> okay
[03:16] <intelikey> parted is the app and qt/g.parted are frontends    i think
[03:16] <icanhasadmin> anyone familiar with dsdts?
[03:16] <intelikey> i haven't actually studied that one out tho
[03:17] <intelikey> Stoffer vfat can natively be read/writen by both M$ and linux
[03:18] <AndreSTC> intelikey do u remember me? im the one with the 2 partitions, 1 with 5gb and one with 50gb
[03:18] <Stoffer> intelikey, yes, but vfat has a 2gb file size max
[03:18] <intelikey> no "drivers" needed
[03:18] <AndreSTC> intelikey i wanted to get them together
[03:18] <intelikey> Stoffer you have to compromise something.
[03:18] <Stoffer> intelikey, I need something bigger
[03:18] <Stoffer> intelikey, shouldn't ext2 work?
[03:19] <intelikey> Stoffer ext3 is ext2+journal   so if ext3 is out then ext2 is out
[03:19] <Stoffer> lame
[03:19] <Stoffer> someone said windows can read ext2
[03:19] <intelikey> AndreSTC yes indeed
[03:19] <intelikey> it can   with a driver
[03:19] <Stoffer> ic
[03:19] <Stoffer> I just don't understand why nothing will format this drive in NTSC
[03:19] <Stoffer> not even windows
[03:19] <intelikey> the driver is free and easily found on the net
[03:20] <Stoffer> yeah, I might have to do that
[03:20] <Stoffer> especially since i'll probably only need it once
[03:20] <Stoffer> or would it be easier to use 7zip to break up any files larger than 2gb and just use vfat?
[03:21] <intelikey> easy is as easy does
[03:21] <Stoffer> indeed...
[03:21]  * Stoffer hates NTFS with a passion
[03:22] <Stoffer> !ext2
[03:22]  * intelikey has the same passion for windows
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> well, it won't format in ntsc because that's a tv format
[03:22] <intelikey> !ext3
[03:22] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:23] <Arwen> hating Windows is very irrational, but..
[03:23] <Stoffer> Daisuke_Ido, well played
[03:23] <neville_> Hate Microsoft, not Windows
[03:23] <intelikey> Arwen ok.  i'm irrational    you point ?
[03:23] <icanhasadmin> wait, someone is formatting a tv?
[03:23] <Stoffer> I'll probably format with ext3, and put that driver on my thumb drive
[03:23] <oloughlin75> intelikey is irrational?!
[03:23] <Arwen> [22:22] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org <-- we're recommending GPL violating software?
[03:24] <intelikey> neville_ what part of windows can you seperate from windows ?
[03:24] <intelikey> !ot > intelikey
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe
[03:24] <AndreSTC> intelikey do u know whats means the Active Status shown on qparted, on 1 of the partitions?
[03:24] <oloughlin75> Arwen: does that work very very well?!?!
[03:24] <AndreSTC> qtparted*
[03:24] <Arwen> AndreSTC, active == bootable
[03:24] <neville_> What sort of a question is that
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: agreed, we should at most be recommending vfat :\
[03:25] <Arwen> oloughlin75, it's more properly an ext2 driver. If you crash Windows, you will want to boot Linux and fsck it.
[03:25] <intelikey> AndreSTC probably that the fs is mounted and thus not safe to alter it.
[03:25]  * Stoffer will format his thumb drive in PAL
[03:25] <Arwen> it also offers no filesystem security
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> PAL? lol
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> try NTSC
[03:25] <Arwen> hehe, 25fps filesystems ftw
[03:25] <oloughlin75> Arwen: i mean is it stable enough to put my entire music collection on my linux partition and access it through windows solely to sync my zune?
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> as long as you have the proper SCART adapter to go between the drive and the pc, you're okay
[03:25] <Arwen> stable? heck yeah
[03:26] <Arwen> secure? heck nop
[03:26] <intelikey> Arwen oh was he asking about boot flag   heh i missed that.
[03:26] <oloughlin75> security isn't an isue
[03:26] <Arwen> go fer it then
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> oloughlin75: vfat.
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> it's music, you won't be using >2gb files
[03:26] <AndreSTC> intelikey thats seted on my 5GB partition. so i can copy everything that is in the other partition, format it, and give more size to the active partition?
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and you won't have to screw with the driver on the windows side, or the linux side
[03:26] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, dunno, there's a new tendency to rip albums as single files
[03:26] <intelikey> AndreSTC boot flag = active   means that bios will try to boot that partition if the MBR is a standard M$ mbr
[03:27] <Arwen> so you don't really know
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: even in mp3, at the highest bitrate, that's what, a max of 280mb?
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> even flac would be less than 1gb
[03:27] <Arwen> FLAC would give you a max of 700MB
[03:27] <Arwen> but if it were a multi-disc album...
[03:27] <keto> i download the java jre-6u3-linux-i586.bin any one knows how can i install it?
[03:28] <Arwen> keto, ./file.bin I think
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's a multi-disc album it would be ripped as multiple files :)
[03:28] <Arwen> true
[03:28] <oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: so vfat works with windows and vista? So ill make 4 partitions, windows, swap, ext3, and vfat? :)
[03:28] <keto> it is lika an icon on my desktop
[03:28] <yurimxpxman> how do you redirect standard output to two files?
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> oloughlin75: that would work well
[03:28] <oloughlin75> oooo :D
[03:28] <default_op> I have a filename.RPM.BIN file, how do I open it or get it associated with Adept or other installer?
[03:28] <oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: thanks!
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> oloughlin75: vfat = fat32, which windows has supported for years
[03:28] <oloughlin75> same thing?
[03:28] <Arwen> default_op, that's only part of an RPM. Don't touch it, it's b0rk3d.
[03:29] <Arwen> oloughlin75, yes.
[03:29] <default_op> Arwen: but I got it off Java site.
[03:29] <Arwen> o.O
[03:30] <intelikey> vfat != fat32     vfat = fat{12,16,32}
[03:30] <default_op> Arwen: it's marked on thier web page as rpm.bin too.  it's JRE
[03:30] <intelikey> the exact fat is determined by disk size
[03:30] <Arwen> but it usually creates a 32-bit FAT
[03:30] <intelikey> or rather fs size
[03:30] <hydrogen> you're fat.
[03:31] <oloughlin75> intelikey: its accessible in windows either way right?
[03:31] <keto> .<Arwen> keto, ./file.bin I think it says the file doesnt exist!
[03:31] <mneptok> oloughlin75: use ext3 and the Windows ext3 driver.
[03:31] <intelikey> yes unless  you run it on a floppy where it creats fat12 or a <32m fs where it makes fat16
[03:31] <intelikey> and oloughlin75 yes fat is windows
[03:31] <Arwen> keto, clearly you replace "file" with the actual name of the file
[03:31] <intelikey> or rather fat is M$
[03:32] <intelikey> M$=fat
[03:32] <oloughlin75> Sounds safer to have al my media on a separate partition for either OS
[03:32] <intelikey> :)
[03:32] <mneptok> keto: why are you installing Java by hand?
[03:32] <mneptok> oloughlin75: use ext3 for that
[03:32] <oloughlin75> mneptok: ill just use vfat so i dont need any drivers for windows
[03:32] <mneptok> oloughlin75: far less likely to have data corruption and you don;t have the 4GB file size limit
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> nah.... vfat is better for that sort of thing
[03:33] <mneptok> nosrednaekim: no, it's not
[03:33] <oloughlin75> mneptok: mp3 and such are noever going to be more than 4GB
[03:33] <mneptok> but hey, i just work here. waht do i know? :P
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> mneptok » well can we agree to disagree?
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> work where?
[03:33] <hydrogen> gut$y gibbon :/
[03:33] <mneptok> nosrednaekim: you can. i'm still right. ;)
[03:33] <mneptok> nosrednaekim: Canonical
[03:34] <intelikey> i personally like the fact that power off doesn't hose vfat unless you are writing    (it will any fs that's being writen to)
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> oh. ^_^
 keto: why are you installing Java by hand? what is a better way?
[03:34] <oloughlin75> keto: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:34] <mneptok> keto: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[03:34] <oloughlin75> keto: its under the add/remove programs
[03:35] <oloughlin75> or apt-get works :/ :)
[03:35] <oloughlin75> mneptok: whats wrong with vfat, or why would ext3 be better?
[03:36] <mneptok> oloughlin75: ext3 is journalled, as more robust repair and recovery utilities, and is far more fault tolerant.
[03:36] <mneptok> *has
[03:36] <oloughlin75> mneptok: does the ext3 thing read and write?
[03:36] <oloughlin75> the driver for windows
[03:36] <mneptok> oloughlin75: of course
[03:36] <oloughlin75> alrighty
[03:36] <mneptok> oloughlin75: http://fs-driver.org
[03:37] <AndreSTC> intelikey how do i copy everything from partition sda3 to sda1?
[03:37] <mneptok> AndreSTC: are they mounted?
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> mneptok: gpl violators.
[03:38] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: think i should just install hardy?
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » no :)
[03:38] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: why? :)
[03:38] <oloughlin75> im reinstalling anyway
[03:38] <intelikey> lol ^5 diasuke
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> mneptok: vfat is a perfectly safe and perfectly sane solution for sharing music between linux and windows.
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » why? just shrink the partition
[03:39] <mneptok> Daisuke_Ido: huh?
[03:39] <keto> oloughlin75> keto: its under the add/remove programs
[03:39] <hydrogen> not using windows is a much saner solution
[03:39] <hydrogen> I must say
[03:39] <keto> can you tell me where?
[03:39] <icanhasadmin> agreed
[03:39] <mneptok> keto: where *what*?
[03:40] <AndreSTC> [mneptok]: yes
[03:40] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: im going to start fresh with vista and kubuntu
[03:40]  * nosrednaekim wispers "perfectly free"
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75 » ah..well ok, I guess you could give hardy a shot
[03:40] <keto> how to  isntal kubuntu restricted extras
[03:40] <mneptok> AndreSTC: do you want a bit-for-bit partition clone or just copy the files?
[03:40] <mneptok> keto: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[03:40] <oloughlin75> keto: do what mneptokjust said
[03:41] <AndreSTC> mneptok heres what i want...
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: agreed, not using windows is the best solution, but if you're going to use windows, why screw with proprietary ext2 drivers on the windows side when both support vfat out of the box?
[03:44] <AndreSTC> mneptok i have 2 partitions... one with 5gb(almost full). and one with the /home directory(50gb free). I want to know if there is a way to put them together.
[03:44] <mneptok> Daisuke_Ido: because ext3 is a more relilient and robust filesystem?
[03:45] <mneptok> Daisuke_Ido: and i wouldn't be so sure that that driver violates the GPL
[03:45] <mneptok> *resilient
[03:45] <AndreSTC> mneptok i dont know why everyting is going to the 5gb partition, lol x.x
[03:45] <oloughlin75> ill be back in a few hours all. see ya!
[03:45] <mneptok> AndreSTC: df -h and pastebin the results
[03:46] <gtt> NickPresta: whoah... thanks!
[03:46] <NickPresta> gtt, :)
[03:47] <AndreSTC> mneptok http://rafb.net/p/3A6cvM34.html
[03:47] <mneptok> AndreSTC: the 5GB partition is your root. that's why.
[03:48] <AndreSTC> [mneptok]: is there a way to fix that without loosing everything?
[03:48] <cesarIII> backup?
[03:49] <AndreSTC> not really an easy option >.>
[03:49] <intelikey> !gparted | AndreSTC the gparted CD "might"
[03:49] <ubotu> AndreSTC the gparted CD "might": GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[03:49] <mneptok> AndreSTC: first, it's "losing." "loose" and "loosing" rhyme with "goose" and "goosing". sorry, pet peeve.
[03:50] <intelikey> don't loose your attention on that mneptok
[03:50] <mneptok> AndreSTC: the best bet is to backup your ~/, do a clean install and set up an LVM /home on those 2 physical drives.
[03:51] <icanhasadmin> That's funny. My pet peeve is people using the words "pet peeve"
[03:51] <AndreSTC> mneptok no other way?
[03:51] <mneptok> icanhasadmin: so commit suicide.
[03:51] <mneptok> AndreSTC: there are, but they involve far more time and effort.
[03:51] <hydrogen> thats an interesting way tro handle it..
[03:52] <gtt> anyone know why i'm unable to change colors for my fonts in Quanta+ ?
[03:52] <hydrogen> I've gotta agree pet peeve is a fairly silly phrase
[03:52] <mneptok> hydrogen: well, when you say "pet peeve" yourself in a rant against the words "pet peeve" ...
[03:52] <mneptok> ;)
[03:53] <hydrogen> okay
[03:53] <AndreSTC> [mneptok]: and with gparted, as intelikey sugested?
[03:53] <hydrogen> let me rephrase
[03:53] <hydrogen> I get kinda pissed off when people use that phrase liberally
[03:53] <hydrogen> :-)
[03:53]  * hydrogen goes to get dinner
[03:53] <mneptok> AndreSTC: i'd use the alternate CD to do the install, and use its partiioner.
[03:53] <toyo|desk> hey all what could be the problem if I have a kubuntu machine that cannot browse samba shares unless I type in the ip address of the box manually
[03:53] <toyo|desk> is there just a package missing or config issue
[03:54] <icanhasadmin> I like everyone. and love. and pie. and ubuntu. lets hug
[03:54]  * icanhasadmin offers hugs to all
[03:54]  * icanhasadmin hears a cricket
[03:54] <toyo|desk> like if I click on remote places and then samba shares nothing on my net shows up
[03:55] <intelikey> toyo|desk sounds like a dns issue   but i'm not the network specialest
[03:55] <toyo|desk> but if I go in and type smb://10.0.1.41/ the shares are there
[03:55] <intelikey> nor the spelling one.
[03:56] <toyo|desk> hmm
[03:56] <mneptok> toyo|desk: DNS server on your local network?
[03:56] <toyo|desk> well the funny thing is I can resolve internet addresses no prob
[03:56] <RangdeBasanti> hhi
[03:56] <toyo|desk> mneptok, yeah
[03:56] <intelikey> toyo|desk local not inet
[03:56] <RangdeBasanti> is this channel ownned by kubuntu?
[03:56] <mneptok> toyo|desk: tell it to stop hijacking unresolvable names
[03:56] <toyo|desk> I can see everything on this kubuntu machine just not the other
[03:57] <toyo|desk> mneptok, hu
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> RangdeBasanti » after a fashion... yes
[03:58] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti: no, this is not official canonical owned channel
[03:58] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti: this is community owned and run
[03:58] <RangdeBasanti> why its writen official then
[03:58] <RangdeBasanti> what community
[03:58] <coreymon77> but unless im mistaken, its canonical sanctioned
[03:58] <intelikey> coreymon77 ?   unofficial channels on freenode are ##blah  not #blah
[03:58] <icanhasadmin> because it's the official community owned and run channel
[03:58] <RangdeBasanti> ah ic
[03:58] <RangdeBasanti> what is the community. who owns it
[03:59] <toyo|desk> hmm brb I am going to just start comparing settings between these computers
[03:59] <icanhasadmin> no one
[03:59] <icanhasadmin> that's why it's a community
[03:59] <mneptok> RangdeBasanti: are you from India?
[03:59] <RangdeBasanti> yes
[03:59] <icanhasadmin> it's like the federal reserve, someone owes it, but no one knows who
[03:59] <mneptok> RangdeBasanti: who "owns" Hinduism?
[03:59] <RangdeBasanti> no body
[04:00] <mneptok> same principle
[04:00] <joe_> why i cannot install flashplayer on konqueror
[04:00] <RangdeBasanti> ic
[04:00] <RangdeBasanti>  :)
[04:00] <intelikey> /msg chanserv info #kubuntu
[04:00] <RangdeBasanti> i have a question. can i ask?
[04:00] <mneptok> RangdeBasanti: you just did.
[04:00]  * intelikey begs to differ.
[04:00] <RangdeBasanti> an other? :)
[04:00] <intelikey> /msg chanserv info #kubuntu
[04:00] <mneptok> you mean yet another after that one?
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> RangdeBasanti » you are runing out
[04:00] <RangdeBasanti> ya
[04:00] <RangdeBasanti>  how to do some thing that automatically checks wheather a proccess has not been runing for a specified time. if it isnt, runs it and logs in a file that it has made it run.?
[04:01] <mneptok> RangdeBasanti: nope, sorry, you reeached quota. thanks for shopping!
[04:01] <toyo|desk> hmm
[04:01] <mneptok> man, that guy's tough.
[04:02] <toyo|desk> is there a firewall built into kubuntu
[04:02] <toyo|desk> maybe thats causing it
[04:02] <toyo|desk> :/
[04:02] <coreymon77> mneptok: why did you kick yourself
[04:03] <mneptok> coreymon77: because she's not here to do it for me.
[04:03] <coreymon77> huh?
[04:03] <coreymon77> whos not where?
[04:03] <hunshad> why i cannot install flashplayer on konqueror
[04:04] <mneptok> hunshad: parce-ce que Adobe deteste les Quebecois.
[04:04] <hunshad> Oo
[04:04] <coreymon77> ...?
[04:04] <mneptok> hunshad: it's a known issue with the current oackage. :)
[04:04] <mneptok> *package
[04:04] <coreymon77> mneptok: whats with the quebec/french bit
[04:04] <coreymon77> adobe hates quebecers?
[04:04] <mneptok> coreymon77: hunshad is from Quebec. as am i.
[04:04] <hunshad> yes
[04:05] <coreymon77> well, there not the only ones :p
[04:05] <coreymon77> just kidding
[04:05] <hunshad> T_T
[04:05] <coreymon77> but really, they arent
[04:05] <coreymon77> ;)
[04:06] <hunshad> je suppose que tu es francais mneptop
[04:06] <hunshad> mneptok
[04:06] <mneptok> hunshad: /j #ubuntu-qc itou
[04:06] <mneptok> hunshad: non, je suis au Etats-Unis.
[04:06] <coreymon77> umm, im canadian too
[04:06] <RangdeBasanti_> nos
[04:06] <mrnotproper> french canadian too
[04:07] <coreymon77> i understand most of what you are saying
[04:07] <coreymon77> no
[04:07] <coreymon77> not french canadian
[04:07] <RangdeBasanti_> mneptok coreymon77 i was disconected
[04:07] <mrnotproper> hehe yep ;)
[04:07] <mneptok> tabernak, les Quebecois sont en force en #kubuntu ce soir.
[04:07] <RangdeBasanti_>  how to do some thing that automatically checks wheather a proccess has not been runing for a specified time. if it isnt, runs it and logs in a file that it has made it run.?
[04:07] <coreymon77> mneptok: no kidding
[04:07] <coreymon77> mneptok: it must be due to the eclipse
[04:08] <hunshad> lol
[04:08] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti do you mean a daemonized process ?
[04:08] <coreymon77> :D
[04:08] <mneptok> i can see that *right* out my window
[04:08] <mneptok> an eclipse, and lovel Blvd. Rene-Levesque Ouest
[04:08] <mneptok> *lovely
[04:08] <hunshad> ok et pis pour mon problème de konqueror tu me disais qu'il y avait un paquet qui gérait tout ca?
[04:08] <hunshad> sérieux j'y connais rien
[04:09] <hunshad> je cherche sur google mais
[04:09] <coreymon77> typical quebeccers, cant spell in english
[04:09] <mneptok> hunshad: pour assistance en Francais, c'est plus bon en #ubuntu-fr ou #ubuntu-qc
[04:09] <hunshad> i will try
[04:09] <coreymon77> hunshad: you typically speak english here
[04:09] <RangdeBasanti_> am i not supposed to ask questions here         ?
[04:09] <BluesKaj> canadian here as well , northern ontario ...the eclipse was a bit of a bust ...moon was too high in the sky ...loked really small from here
[04:09] <mneptok> RangdeBasanti_: of course you may.
[04:09] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: yes you are
[04:09] <RangdeBasanti_> how to do some thing that automatically checks wheather a proccess has not been runing for a specified time. if it isnt, runs it and logs in a file that it has made it run.?
[04:09] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: but you only have a certain quota each day
[04:10] <RangdeBasanti_> coreymon77 how much can i ask?
[04:10] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: which you have used up by asking if you can ask questions
[04:10] <RangdeBasanti_> coreymon77 oh no :(
[04:10] <BluesKaj> !ask
[04:10] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:10] <coreymon77> im just kidding
[04:10] <hunshad> how i can run flash player with konqueror ?
[04:10] <RangdeBasanti_> coreymon77 you were joking ?
[04:10] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti do you mean a daemonized process ?
[04:10] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: yes
[04:10] <RangdeBasanti_> coreymon77  :)
[04:10] <RangdeBasanti_> coreymon77 so what can i do
[04:10] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: just stop asking to ask questions, just ask your question
[04:10] <intelikey> or do you want an answer,   maybe you just wanted ot ask.
[04:10] <mneptok> hunshad: the Flash installer is broken for Konq rright now, IIRC
[04:10] <mneptok> !flash
[04:10]  * RangdeBasanti_ nodes
[04:10] <RangdeBasanti_> how to do some thing that automatically checks wheather a proccess has not been runing for a specified time. if it isnt, runs it and logs in a file that it has made it run.?
[04:11]  * intelikey nodes
[04:11] <coreymon77> eh?
[04:11] <RangdeBasanti_> what?
[04:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:11] <hunshad> have you some problem with quebeccer mneptok
[04:12] <mneptok> !brokenflash
[04:12] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[04:12] <Stoffer> Hazaa!  Victory!
[04:12] <BluesKaj> sacktime ...nite all
[04:12]  * Stoffer has something that works now
[04:12] <RangdeBasanti_> does no one knows         ?
[04:12] <Stoffer> ext2 + the ext2 windows driver will work, so I'm set.  Thanks ppl
[04:12] <coreymon77> Stoffer: yay, congratulations, now you can actually use linux! :P
[04:13] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: i really dont understand your question
[04:13] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti communication has to be two way.
[04:13] <Stoffer> coreymon77, pfft, I use linux 24/7, it's just that files i'm copying are from ppl who use windows 150 miles away
[04:13] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti do you mean a daemonized process ?
[04:13] <keto> !es
[04:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:13] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti do you just need a sleep command in a shell script ?
[04:13]  * Stoffer is sooo over Windows
[04:13] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: the thing that does this when that happens is not very descriptive
[04:14] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti or maybe you have some more information that we need.
[04:14] <coreymon77> RangdeBasanti_: if you know what i mean
[04:14] <RangdeBasanti_> coreymon77 how to do some thing that automatically checks wheather a proccess (say amsn) has not been runing for a specified time (say 2 hours). if it isnt, it is runt and it should be loged in a file that it has made it run.  coreymon77 intelikey
[04:14] <coreymon77> intelikey: any ideas?
[04:14] <RangdeBasanti_> for the last 2 hrs* ?
[04:15] <intelikey> coreymon77 not unless he is asking about a daemon that can track runtimes of an app.
[04:15] <coreymon77> intelikey: and then force it to run if it isnt?
[04:16] <RangdeBasanti_> wel, how to make a daemon then?
[04:16] <RangdeBasanti_> coreymon77 yes
[04:16] <intelikey> and i would think that a shell warper would cover that.
[04:16] <coreymon77> anywho
[04:16] <RangdeBasanti_> shell warper ? whats that
[04:16]  * intelikey thinks that shell scripts will cover everything....
[04:16] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey how?
[04:17] <RangdeBasanti_> can you give me a script
[04:17] <kristianP> En español??
[04:17] <coreymon77> showery-/snacky-/makey lunch for tomorrow/sleepy- time
[04:18] <coreymon77> !ES
[04:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:18] <hunst> hi everyone
[04:18]  * RangdeBasanti_ gives a closer idea. "monit" an app that does it. i just came to know about it. i just came to know about it. it this the one iam looking for?
[04:19] <coreymon77> shmeh?
[04:19] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti lets say you wanted a warper to keep you from running /bin/ls more often than one minute.     mv /bin/ls /bin/ls.real ;echo '#!/bin/sh\n' > /bin/ls ;chmod 755 /bin/ls       and then edit /bin/ls  adding a line to make a time stamp file when it runs and a line to check the timestamp and a line to run it.
[04:20]  * mneptok tootles off for home
[04:20] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey what the hell did you just said. iam new in linux
[04:21] <intelikey> i said "the tower of bable,  remember"
[04:21] <RangdeBasanti_> :(
[04:21] <intelikey> we obvously speak different languages.
[04:22] <RangdeBasanti_> i dont know how to run scripts
[04:22] <RangdeBasanti_> can you be more in detail. stepwise
[04:24] <intelikey> if you told us what exactly you are desirous to do.   we might be able to tell you how you can do it.   but, "how to get an undisclosed process to keep tabs on an undisclosed process" is kinda vague in the greatest degree
[04:24] <intelikey> give me more to work with.
[04:25] <AndreSTC> intelikey ok, so im going to use the live cd tomorrow, but i have just one question. How can i copy the files from sda3 to sda1. Its only 32mbs(/home).
[04:25] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey "amsn" i wana moniter if it hasnt been runing for the last 2 hours. if not. run it. and log in a file that it has run
[04:26] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ ok,  now give me a minute.
[04:27] <Slor> hello folks
[04:27] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey ok
[04:27] <mike18> i just rebooted and now i'm getting hub 3-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[04:28] <Slor> I didn't find recommended system specs on the site (perhaps I missed them), and I'm wondering if Kubuntu is well suited to a P3-750 laptop with 512MB ram and 80GB hard drive.
[04:28] <timboy> working on a simple dhcp server my server ip is 213.137.73.4 and when I try to stop my dhcp server I get "address range 213.137.73.2 to 213.137.73.253 not on net 213.137.73.0/255.255.255.0!"
[04:29] <Slor> is that a combination that won't be sluggish/swapping on me?
[04:31] <hunst> hi, how can i use flashplayer with konqueror ?
[04:32] <hunst> the external modules don't work
[04:34] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d41395e85 < that is an exmaple amsn warper that should do that,   you could call it with a cron job every 15 minutes or so...
[04:34] <timboy> can someone give me some dhcp help
[04:36] <neville> Is it possible to extract a .iso to a hard disk, then be able to boot from that hard disk as if it were a CD?
[04:37] <intelikey> neville not likely.  and the reason is that the liveCD has special tools in the initramfs that will search for the cd/dvd device and try to make it the / (root) fs     so the cards are stacked against you on that.
[04:38] <intelikey> neville now if you want to hack the startup process then   sure you can.
[04:38] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey this will check after every 15 mins whether amsn is runing or not?
[04:38] <neville> Hmm, how about a bootable, non-LiveCD?
[04:40] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ no.  cron is what you need for that.   and then call a warper like that to make sure that enough time has passed before starting it again
[04:40] <intelikey> !info cron
[04:40] <ubotu> cron (source: cron): management of regular background processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.0pl1-100ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 77 kB, installed size 296 kB
[04:40] <intelikey> !info anacron
[04:40] <ubotu> anacron (source: anacron): cron-like program that doesn't go by time. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3-13ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 224 kB
[04:40] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey i should make a cron to run this script every 15 mins?
[04:40] <intelikey> yes
[04:42] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey what do you think this will do? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m275336a1
[04:42] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ actually i added one test in that script. that you would probably want.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d573dc745
[04:48]  * RangdeBasanti_ waits for intelikey to see the script
[04:50] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ well that debugging function looks for ever more like a bug in it's own right.  but other than that it looks like a fairly sound script for testing whether or not the said process is running
[04:50] <RangdeBasanti_> and it will run it if its not ranned for the last 30 minuts? and it will log while doing it? it a file
[04:51] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey a file that is in /tmp ?
[04:52] <intelikey> no logging function    the file in /tmp is only the tracking timestamp
[04:52] <intelikey> wait.  i'm still reading it.
[04:53] <RangdeBasanti_> ok
[04:54] <intelikey> ok yes it will log   if and only if a process has been tracked as down for more than the alloted time     i.e. logs when it starts said process
[04:55] <RangdeBasanti_> hm
[04:55] <RangdeBasanti_> no flaws? i can depend on it?
[04:57] <intelikey> that script is also very verbose.    for something like that the output is generally not desirable.    something like that called from cron "might" spam a user console with information they niether want nor need.    but i think (iirc) cron will just chuck all echo output into /dev/null and be done with it...
[04:57] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey it will keep on logging even the computer shuts down. (it will start loggin in the file from the point it left previously(continue from the last log))? i hope it wont delete the previous logs?
[04:57] <intelikey> not being one that uses cron i dont remember exactly what the default is.
[04:58] <gavo> hey all... does 64bit linux have any issues with C2D processors?
[04:58] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey ok. so user will not see any message? and no extra diskspace will be needed
[04:58] <gavo> 64bit kubuntu i mean
[04:58] <RangdeBasanti_> ?
[04:58] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ "it will keep on logging even the computer shuts down." <<< no.   /tmp is cleaned at boot time.
[04:59] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey if i change the location from /tmp to /var/logs        then ?
[04:59] <bit_junkie> C2D's should be fine
 intelikey ok. so user will not see any message? <<< i think that that is correct.
[04:59] <RangdeBasanti_> ok
[05:00] <bit_junkie> its the chipsets you gotta watch out for
 intelikey if i change the location from /tmp to /var/logs <<< no var/log is also cleaned   you could use /var/tmp  or /var/cache/something
[05:00] <intelikey> i would recommend using /var/tmp/   it should hold past a reboot
[05:01] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey if i change location to /var/cache/ or simple /mypvtfolder/logs . it will keep on logging even the computer shuts down. (it will start loggin in the file from the point it left previously(continue from the last log))? i hope it wont delete the previous logs?
[05:01] <intelikey> at least in default ubuntu setups
[05:01]  * intelikey has /var/tmp -> /tmp  so not on his box.
[05:02] <RangdeBasanti_> mypvtfolder will also be fine?
[05:02] <intelikey> yes
[05:02] <RangdeBasanti_>  (it will start loggin in the file from the point it left previously(continue from the last log))? i hope it wont delete the previous logs?
[05:02] <intelikey> should continue yes.
[05:02] <RangdeBasanti_> hm
[05:03] <RangdeBasanti_> i can have logs of a ful year?
[05:03] <timboy> working on a simple dhcp server my server ip is 213.137.73.4 and when I try to stop my dhcp server I get "address range 213.137.73.2 to 213.137.73.253 not on net 213.137.73.0/255.255.255.0!"
[05:03] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey ok. that will be nice. thanks !
[05:03] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey from where did you learned scripting?
[05:04] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ wait.
[05:04] <intelikey> logger uses syslog
[05:05] <RangdeBasanti_> so?
[05:05] <RangdeBasanti_> what do you mean
[05:05] <RangdeBasanti_> echo "File /tmp/${check_process}_tracking is older than $check_time minutes, sending syslog"              ?
[05:07] <intelikey> logger uses syslog <<< that means that the only logging function it has is through the syslogd which writes in /var/log/    so you need to change the line  "    logger -i -t $check_process .***"  to something like >>>>  echo "$check_process Process has not been running for $check_time minutes, removing /tmp/${check_process}_tracking `date`" >> /where/you/want/the/perminant.log
[05:08] <intelikey> note the dubble redirrect >> makes it append to the file and not overwrite it
[05:08] <intelikey> and the backward single quote `date` will insert a timestamp
 intelikey from where did you learned scripting? <<< i didn't.
[05:10]  * intelikey learned every thing he knows by the "try it and reformat" methood.
[05:10] <hdevalence> how much does using the encrypted LVM slow down your computer?
[05:10] <hdevalence> I'm on a new install using that and it seems very slow, and I'm wondering if the encryption is the cause
[05:11] <intelikey> hdevalence i couldn't say.  but there have also been known causes of excessively slowness
[05:12] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey you mean like this = logger -i -t $check_process "Process has not been running for $check_time minutes, removing /tmp/${check_process}_tracking"
[05:12] <RangdeBasanti_>     DEBUG echo "Removing tracking file"
[05:12] <RangdeBasanti_>     rm -f /tmp/${check_process}_tracking
[05:12] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey sory. typo
[05:12] <intelikey> you may want to visit the forums and have a search hdevalence
[05:13] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey can you please put the same scritp in pastbin. while changing location to /mylocation/mylogs/me.log for loging ?
[05:13] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey just change this. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m275336a1
[05:14] <jalbert> I'mhaving a problem getting my microphone to work
[05:14] <jalbert> Kubuntu Gutsy
[05:14] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ i mean  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=daf128a9
[05:15] <jalbert> I have it plugged into my sound card the way it ought to be
[05:16] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey -logger uses syslog <<< that means that the only logging function it has is through the syslogd which writes in /var/log/      >>> this means it will write in /var/log. but it will write. and that will remain there?
[05:16] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey ok
[05:17] <intelikey> jalbert sudo alsamixer   use the tab key to switch to input and make sure it's not muted and not set to external apmlified
[05:17] <intelikey> igain < i think it's call
[05:18] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey thanks !
[05:18] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ welcome.   and now you see why you have to be specific about your questions here.  :)
[05:18] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey  :)
[05:19] <RangdeBasanti_> you chaged it because /var/logs are temp record?
[05:19] <intelikey> correct
[05:19] <RangdeBasanti_> hm
[05:20] <RangdeBasanti_> and what is /tmp for ? in that script
[05:20] <intelikey> log rotate will break up syslog   you don't lose all data but it sure gets harder to find.
[05:20] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey ya.. log rotates.. i know the feeling
[05:21] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ oh   you said you want it to keep time stamp across the reboot ?   i need to move the temp files out of /tmp  into /var/tmp   like i mentioned.
[05:22] <RangdeBasanti_> sorry ?
[05:23] <RangdeBasanti_> didnt got ya
[05:24] <jalbert> ok how do I know it's set up correctly?
[05:24] <jalbert> nothing is muted at the mo
[05:24] <jalbert> the mic is set at "84"
[05:25] <jalbert> "capture" is enabled
[05:26] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey you there?
[05:27] <jalbert>   intelikey: culd there be some kind of sound driver issue?
[05:27] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ yes.  i made some modifications to allow it to keep tracking accross a reboot   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d39074365
[05:27] <intelikey> jalbert yeah. could be.
[05:28] <intelikey> !sound | jalbert
[05:28] <ubotu> jalbert: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:28] <ahmad> hello guys, i can't detect and connect any available wireless available network. can you help me fix this problem?
[05:28] <intelikey> !wifi | ahmad best i can do is point you to the docs.
[05:28] <ubotu> ahmad best i can do is point you to the docs.: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:29] <ahmad> thank you ubotu.
[05:29] <intelikey> !welcome
[05:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:29] <intelikey> !thanks
[05:29] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:30] <RangdeBasanti_> ahmad , ubutu is a bot. intelikey helped you by a comand
[05:30] <RangdeBasanti_> and what is /tmp for . or /var/temp  in your case ? in that script
[05:31] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ that is where the script keeps it's own information on how long it's been tracking 'blah'
[05:32] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ without that it doesnt know it has ever checked on 'blah' before
[05:32] <jalbert>   intelikey: is there some way to see what kind of sound hardware my computer has without consulting the motherboard manual?
[05:32] <RangdeBasanti_> oh. so isnt it good to put the temp info in a temporary file >/tmp ?
[05:33] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey every times sys boots. it has new info. and new timer
[05:33] <intelikey> jalbert yes    lshw -C multimedia
[05:34] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ yes.  it is in a temporary file   """touch /var/tmp/${check_process}_tracking"""   that is the file   "empty file."   in /var/tmp  old timer,   in /tmp  new timer
[05:36] <intelikey> that was the descussion about "(it will start loggin in the file from the point it left previously(continue from the last log))? i hope it wont delete the previous logs?"    but i may have misunderstood you.
[05:39] <intelikey> let me see if i can unchoppy that for you.   i understood you to be asking for a timmer that will keep track of the down time of * even accross a reboot and save all logs in a permanant location.     if that's not what you want we need to revisit the script.
[05:39] <intelikey> if that is what you want,  then what you have should do that.
[05:39] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey <sartan> $check_process isn't a command. I'll bet it's kinda broked. =(
[05:40] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey no i said reboots should not effect logs.
[05:41] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ ok, well put the temp file back in /tmp    no biggy.     and no it's not borked    $check_process  will be what ever $1 is.   you supply $1 on the command line
[05:42] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey i should put /tmp back?
[05:43] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=db379152
[05:43] <intelikey> in is in that one  ^
[05:43] <amigo> hi ppl! iptables have't (start|stop|save) script in /etc/init.d/. how to use iptables (ubuntu way) ?
[05:44] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ and tell mr. sartan to look again.
[05:44] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey ok
[05:45] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey from where did you learn scripting. i mean there must be some place?
[05:46] <intelikey> at the keyboard.
[05:47] <amigo> ok. where I can find template of init script?
[05:48] <intelikey> amigo    /etc/init.d/rmnologin     is a pretty good template.
[05:49] <amigo> intelikey: thx
[05:49] <klobster> I learned scripting at #bash.  I'm still in therapy : (
[05:50] <intelikey> amigo  36 /etc/init.d/dns-clean is a pretty good one too
[05:50] <intelikey> klobster yeah   i stand under you.
[05:52] <intelikey> i didn't even finish high school as my misspelling will atest to.    and never had one class on computers of any kind.    i'm what you might call a self made moron
[05:52] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey sartan appricaits your work. and he says. in his script. its loged in /var/log/messages.                  but i gues those are rotated too ?
[05:52] <intelikey> yes that's syslogd
[05:53] <intelikey> i.e. syslogd writes to /var/log/messages
[05:54] <RangdeBasanti_> and it rotates
[05:54] <RangdeBasanti_> intelikey - logger -f /var/log/myvpt-kdesktop.log -t $check_process "Removing logs!"
 it will add the date, create the file, append it..
 but i'm personally partial to the 'logger' command. it's very elegant.
[05:55] <RangdeBasanti_>  change the filename it uses
[05:56] <intelikey> it's his script.  he can change it as he likes.
[05:56] <jalbert> intelikey: http://pastebin.com/m15d657ce
[05:58] <intelikey> jalbert eww intel hda   ;/     that's a know problem  and there should be a lot on the forums about it.
[05:59] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti_ did you mention to him that you were using that for amsn ?
[06:04] <intelikey> interesting  bsdutils provides /usr/bin/logger which only works through syslogd and syslog is not a dependancy nor a required package.  thus  bsdutils provides apps that may not work once installed and give no warning message about it....
[06:04] <jalbert> intelikey: Intel hda?
[06:06] <jalbert> I'm considering buying a new motherboard. Does anybody have any suggestions?
[06:06] <jalbert> I just got a new v ideo card, haven't installed it yet
[06:06] <Lynoure> jalbert: what are your needs with it?
[06:06] <jalbert> well
[06:06] <jalbert> I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy
[06:07] <Lynoure> If your current one works, has no major trouble in kubuntu, and you have no idea what you are lacking, stay with the current one :)
[06:07] <jalbert> I do graphics work, sound/movie editing, some 3D work and a little bit of gaming
[06:07] <intelikey> jalbert yeah  intel hda audio chip   "hda=hi definition audio"    there are docs about it.
[06:07] <jalbert> well my sound card doesn't work properly
[06:07] <intelikey> !hda
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <intelikey> somewhere.
[06:08] <jalbert> ok
[06:08] <jalbert> thx
[06:08] <Lynoure> !intel-hda
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel-hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <jalbert> what's a better option for onbard sound?
[06:08] <intelikey> off board.
[06:08] <jalbert> :/
  you asked.
[06:09] <jalbert> ok ok
[06:09] <jalbert> whats a good card for Linux?
[06:09] <intelikey> !hardware
[06:09] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[06:09] <Lynoure> ICH6 here without a hickup, that's integrated too.
[06:09] <intelikey> that link has some interesting comments
[06:09] <jalbert> ok
[06:10] <intelikey> ac_97 never gave me any problem
[06:10] <jalbert> ac 97?
[06:10] <intelikey> yeah  it's another intel thang
[06:11] <intelikey> and used on some sb cards to
[06:11] <klobster> ac 97 gives me nothing but problems.  what mobo are you on?
[06:11] <intelikey> klobster really ?
[06:12] <jalbert> I have my old computer here, that's got a Creative spund card
[06:12] <jalbert> *sound*
[06:12] <intelikey> i've had ac_97 on three motherboards and havent had a problem yet
[06:12] <klobster> really.  no sound.  period.  ICH5 drivers and nothing
[06:12] <intelikey> ess is old but i really liked them.
[06:13] <klobster> running a MSI 865PE platinum with ac builtin
[06:14] <intelikey> klobster yoh maybe its just the older stuff that ac_97 was good on...  idk.
[06:15] <klobster> I consider it old, but you have told me your specs so I know turtle beach isn't out of the question
[06:16] <intelikey> one ibm box with ac that sound worked ootb  and one that it didn't but all i had to do was load the module and shabang it worked,   and one cobbeled togather dell that it worked as soon as i modprobed it
[06:16] <intelikey> turtle beach   lol
[06:17] <klobster> "It has 8 voice synthesizers!"
[06:17] <intelikey> you mean isa 16 interface plug and get mad stuff
[06:17] <klobster> I liked ISA.  Always knew where you stood with assignable irq's
[06:18] <intelikey> klobster heh.  but most of the new stuff have "none" it's all soft
 "It has 8 voice synthesizers!" ^
[06:18] <intelikey> soft synth
[06:19] <intelikey> !midi | that's why you need all the software to do what hardware was supposed to do.
[06:19] <ubotu> that's why you need all the software to do what hardware was supposed to do.: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:20] <klobster> I caught it.  I'm always bummed when hardware goes soft.  Stop making my snappy system work slower.  I bought those MHZ's for me!
[06:20] <intelikey> supposed to / used to      i think still should.
[06:21] <intelikey> klobster prezactly
[06:22] <klobster> although, there is alot to be said for FPGA's, but as a surplus, not a crutch
[06:22] <Werdna> hey, my kubuntu desktop has the annoying habit of only letting me type a ' or a " or a ` if I press the key twice. If I press it once, it puts an accent over the next character that I type. Can I turn this annoying feature off?
[06:22] <intelikey> i think that's one thing that people dont understand when i tell them i run kde on a p1 100mhz and seldom have to wate on it.    they are not seeing that the graphics and audio and everything else is "real" hardware.
[06:23] <intelikey> Werdna locale ?
[06:24] <intelikey> !locale
[06:24] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[06:25] <Werdna> intelikey: thanks
[06:26] <unnutz> hi. can anyone suggest any linux disk i/o performance detection tool?
[06:27] <intelikey> hdparm ?
[06:27] <intelikey> really don't know.
[06:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> unnutz, what do you want to do?
[06:28] <amigo> intelikey: i found /etc/init.d/skeleton :)
[06:28] <unnutz> i need to detect fs performance over the network ( i've nfs share on windows storage server mounted on ubuntu linux). so i want to make a stress testing to determine the performance of the system...
[06:28] <intelikey> amigo really.  not in the LTS,   good on ya mate
[06:30] <intelikey> or perhaps i shouldn't say that.   i dont remember seeing it, and i don't use the normal sysV init scripts.
[06:30] <intelikey> so it could have once been there...
[06:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> unnutz: iostat or iozone.  I don't know if it is still supported but it might be what you are interested in.
[06:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> !iostat
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iostat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <mhollisjr> are there any quirks I should know about with Kubuntu 8.04 before I attempt to install compiz?
[06:32] <mhollisjr> hehe perfect timing ><
[06:32] <klobster> damn netsplit!
[06:32] <mhollisjr> hehe yeah yeah you all were dodging my question lol I know how it goes ^^ ;)
[06:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> unnutz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iostat
[06:33] <ere4si> mhollisjr, do you know 8.04 is still beta?
[06:33] <mhollisjr> yes I do
[06:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> klobster: what is netsplit?
[06:33] <ere4si> #ubuntu+1 has those answers mhollisjr
[06:33] <unnutz> gundam_rx78nt1: thank you
[06:33] <mhollisjr> thank you ere4si
[06:33] <ere4si> k
[06:34] <klobster> unnutz: so testing network or fs?  cuz the network will bottleneck the fs?
[06:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> unnutz: your welcome.
[06:37] <klobster> gundam_rx78nt1: it's when everyone suddenly logs off and back in again, or a large group just logs out.
[06:37] <klobster> what was the answer to unnutz's question?
[06:38] <unnutz> klobster: testing speed of files to read/write..
[06:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> klobster: thank you for the info.  I have been away from IRC for so long that the new vocabulary needs almost a higher education level to understand.
[06:38] <unnutz> klobster: of course using nfs :D
[06:38] <keto> !es
[06:38] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:38] <klobster> intelikey: I don't know about P1, but the first PII Xeon was awesome.
[06:39] <klobster> unnutz: good, right where I was headed
[06:40] <intelikey> klobster heh yeah and if you put all that real hardware in a p3 box it flys, hmups through hoops, and has power to spare.   :)
[06:40] <unnutz> :)
[06:41] <klobster> I know.  <3 <3 <3 my old four core PII xeon.  The first, nay the ONLY true 64bit CPU
[06:43] <intelikey> hmups/jumps     don't ask.
[06:44] <klobster> I thought that was your fancy way of saying mflops
[06:44] <Wasserstoff> anyone else think Intrepid Ibex is just about the worst possible name that could have been created?
[06:45] <klobster> wait hm and ju are nowhere near each other...
[06:46] <Lynoure> Wasserstoff: nope, considering it could have been Insane Ibis too
[06:46] <klobster> better than intelligent Iguanodon
[06:47] <klobster> irresponsible idiot
[06:47] <klobster> illiterate insect
[06:48] <Wasserstoff> insiduous iguana would have been my vote
[06:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> Wasserstoff: insiduous iguana = geico gecko
[06:50] <unnutz> klobster: http://www.iozone.org/ :) nice benchmarking tool :D
[06:50] <dhq> how do i build my own live cd
[06:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> !uck |dhq
[06:51] <ubotu> dhq: UCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[06:52] <Daisuke_Ido> they actually went with intrepid ibex?
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i still like insolent iguana
[06:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> unnutz: is that what you were looking for?
[06:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> wait, is intrepid ibex the next release of ubuntu?
[06:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> hit me with coffee, I need to wake up for I am slow today...
[06:55] <klobster> unnutz: Bookmarked, thx
[06:55] <intelikey> gundam_rx78nt1 no. hardy fish of some kind is.
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> c;mon, there's still time to change your minds >_<
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the worst possible name ever...  and i LIKED edgy eft -_-
[07:09] <unnutz> gundam_rx78nt1: aha.. kinda :)
[07:12] <Unksi> lol
[07:18] <ere4si> an ibex has long horns but runs away alot - not much intrepid about them at all
[07:19] <jalbert> hey does anybody here use xchat?
[07:19] <jalbert> how do I separate the chanels I want in the join list?
[07:20] <jalbert> Ignoble Icthyosaur
[07:23] <console_jockey> running kubuntu gutsy on a lenovo t42 laptop. Can use fn-F7 to enable external video during initial boot, but once kdm initialized I'm unable to toggle this.  Has anyone any experience with this?
[07:27] <ere4si> jalbert: with a comma and no spaces
[07:27] <ere4si> e.g. #kubuntu,#ubuntu,#xubuntu
[07:28] <jalbert> cool thx
[07:28] <jalbert> is there a way to display all the channels inseparate windows, tiled?
[07:29] <ere4si> tabs at the top is what I use jalbert
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> console_jockey: I have that problem also on my HP DV6000
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> Only thing I can say is activate twin view.
[07:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> It's a problem when I go to give presentations and connect the projector to the external vga connector...
[07:36] <console_jockey> gundam_rx78nt1: the only clue I've found came from the lenovo site regarding the use of the fn-F7 key: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56818/
[07:36] <yao_ziyuan> i want to suggest an emergent action on kubuntu's official website: put a note there advising east asian prospective users to "download ubuntu instead and then install the kubuntu-desktop package, because installing kubuntu directly will not get them input methods."
[07:39] <console_jockey> it's suggesting the the extended desktop might have a different image than the computer display.  Might this suggest X and tty are two separate images from the perspective of the computer and external display?
[07:39] <console_jockey> I've tried simply opening a tty terminal (alt-f1) and then tried switching on the external display, but without success.
[07:40] <console_jockey> oddly enough, if I enable external output (or simultaneous output) during the initial boot the external display continues to work even after kdm and my desktop have loaded...
[07:41] <console_jockey> gundam_rx78nt1: have you found this to be the case?
[07:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> console: how did you enable it? via the bios?
[07:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> What I have done is have twin view with cloned desktop and it has worked for me.
[08:03] <console_jockey> twinview with cloned desktop eh?  sounds plausible.
[08:04] <console_jockey> now if only I can remember how to set that up... heh...
[08:04] <console_jockey> time to google it
[08:13] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:16] <intelikey> sebastian^
[08:20] <kerric> witam :)
[08:20] <kerric> chlopaki, zadam mega lamerskie pytanie, podpowie mi ktos jak przejsc glxinfo w yes ?
[08:22] <kerric> hey guys, will any one tell me how to switch glxinfo into yes ?
[08:22] <kerric> i mean
[08:22] <kerric> direct rendering
[08:22] <kerric> in glxinfo
[08:22] <intelikey> !nv
[08:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:22] <kerric> thx
[08:22] <intelikey> best i can do.  welcome
[08:23] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl: ever ask your self which of these am i?  http://tinyurl.com/ysx2kj
[08:32] <intelikey> even though one of those was based on me.  i still like that page  lol
[08:36] <Xbehave> my ttys are completly broken
[08:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> Xbehave: what do you mean?
[08:37] <Xbehave> they show a slightly degraded tty7
[08:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> I don't understand...
[08:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> degraded?
[08:39] <Xbehave> it looks like x but there are graphical glitches other than that its useless
[08:40] <intelikey> trouble with fbcon and graphics drivers can leave the vidio card in a mess  switching to text mode but not clearing the buffer    usually you can still login and type commands even though you can't see what you are doing.
[08:41] <intelikey> simple solution,  either stop using fbcon or the graphics driver.
[08:41] <walmik> hi all
[08:41] <intelikey> with the first you sacrifice usplash   with the later you sacrifice dirrect rendering 3d
[08:42] <intelikey> walmik
[08:42] <walmik> can anybody please tell me how i can get the wireless thing working on a compaq amd64 laptop with kubuntu please
[08:42] <walmik> intelikey: hi
[08:42] <intelikey> i can't but i can't point you at the docs
[08:42] <intelikey> !wifi | walmik
[08:42] <ubotu> walmik: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:43] <walmik> intelikey: thanks
[08:43] <intelikey> anytime
[08:43] <Xbehave> i switchd from usplash to splashy, i can disable that tho, but im using intel drivers
[08:44] <intelikey> Xbehave what's you   vga=   in grub ?
[08:46] <Xbehave> i dont have one
[08:47] <intelikey> try vga=normal  and see if it helps.
[08:47] <intelikey> goes on the       kernel   line
[08:48] <intelikey> grep 'kernel' /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep -v '#' | head 1    <<<<  probably what that spits out.
[08:49] <intelikey> sorry   -1   at the end.
[08:49] <intelikey> 1 will only error out
[08:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> snow? more snow... darn I need more coffee.  Night shift is killing me.
[08:51] <intelikey> i have an older crt and use a text mode to prevent that proublem.   vga=0x0f05    produces text mode 80x30  quite readable and useable on older crts
[08:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> !thinclient
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thinclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> !thinclients
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thinclients - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <Xbehave> thx
[08:53] <intelikey> i might mention, though it should be obvious,  that has no affect at all on your xorg.   it's just a way to defunc the defuct console.
[08:54] <intelikey> just in passing.  most of the time that proublem appears on ati chips.
[08:55] <lod__air> Hi, my usplash isn't displaying.. my laptop is MSI ER710 and using generic kernel. if I'm booting from the LiveCD there is usplash, but after install there isn't. i pluged in externel monitor durring boot and on the monitor was the usplash? can you help me, please?
[08:56] <intelikey> oh and highly related.  it is possable to put the display in a compatable vga mode if you search through the vga= opetions long enough to find it.  or get lucky and hit it early.
[08:57] <intelikey> !usplash | lod__air have a look here
[08:57] <ubotu> lod__air have a look here: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[08:59] <lod__air> ok, i'll try
[08:59] <lod__air> 10x
[09:04] <peto> -------------- is it possible to set up a menu bar in kubuntu like in mac os? ----------------
[09:04] <mhollisjr> how do you enable compiz?
[09:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> peto: go to kde-look.org
[09:04] <KnYaz> hi all
[09:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> look at superkaramba and it's applets
[09:04] <Riskbreaker> hey guys. having trouble with the fglrx 8.02 driver. i'm unable to shut down X without the computer freezing. anyone familiar with this issue?
[09:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> it has the os x bar there.
[09:06] <peto> i couldn find supercaramba
[09:06] <KnYaz> I want to update my packages,from Adept Updater, butwrite me:
[09:06] <KnYaz> (no debugging symbols found)
[09:06] <KnYaz> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[09:06] <peto> just karamba
[09:06] <KnYaz> why?
[09:06] <KnYaz> 146 updates not update :(
[09:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> peto: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Karamba+Mac+Os+X+Bar?content=5609
[09:08] <peto> gundam_rx78nt1, can you help me to set up it please... i am new with linux
[09:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> peto: I just know where it is located.  I haven't installed it myself.  but the instructions should be on that page.
[09:09] <peto> ok, thx
[09:09] <intelikey> KnYaz close adept.   open a konsole and type#  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> peto: just install superkaramba (sudo adept-get install superkaramba) and then download the bar and start it with superkaramba
[09:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> that should be all you have to do.
[09:11]  * intelikey has never used a hackentosh 
[09:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> once you start superkaramba, select open local theme and look for the downloaded theme and it should start.
[09:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> I want a hackentosh!
[09:12] <intelikey> :)
[09:12] <mhollisjr> what is the appropriate place to have something autorun when you login?
[09:12] <intelikey> hackentoshes are heckspensice
[09:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> .kde/Autostart
[09:13] <mhollisjr> thank you
[09:13] <intelikey> arrr hackentoshes are heckspensive
[09:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> intelikey: true. that is why I am hroke!
[09:15] <KnYaz> intelikey thanks! work: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing :)
[09:16] <intelikey> shouldn't have needed -f  but yeah.   welcome.
[09:16] <KnYaz> :)
[09:17] <peto> gundam_rx78nt1: i dont know whats wrong, but superkaramba dont know that type of file
[09:18] <peto> its *.tar.gz
[09:18] <intelikey> i rm'd my irc log     who was it that was wanting a way to "check if process is not running in the last two hours" ?
[09:20] <intelikey> peto not typo'd is it.  i one time made *tar.zg and things didn't like it.
[09:20] <peto> does anyone know how to get a mac os bar in kubuntu
[09:21] <SlimeyPete> peto: .tar.gz is an archive, perhaps you have to unpack it first
[09:21] <SlimeyPete> (using Ark, or "tar -xvzf file.tar.gz" in terminal)
[09:22] <peto> ok
[09:22] <SlimeyPete> (I'm just guessing - I don't use superkaramba
[09:22] <SlimeyPete> )
[09:22] <KnYaz> intelikey hm.. stop update... write me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56822/
[09:22] <intelikey> doesn't just -x work now ?   tar -x blah.tar.gz    ???
[09:23] <SlimeyPete> dunno, might do
[09:23] <intelikey> KnYaz i look.  you wait.
[09:23] <unnutz> does anybody know if there any NFS max performance or it grows while upgrading hardware and has no bounds?
[09:23] <KnYaz> ok
[09:24] <KnYaz> intelikey I understand... ubuntu not find this files?
[09:24] <intelikey> KnYaz ok.   you edit /etc/apt/sources.list   you comment out line says "ftp://ftp.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua/"    you try again.
[09:25] <KnYaz> all ftp://ftp.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua/ comment ??
[09:26] <intelikey> no only gutsy-security
[09:26] <KnYaz> ok
[09:27] <intelikey> maybe try for security "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security restricted main universe multiverse"
[09:27] <KnYaz> not work :(
[09:28] <intelikey> KnYaz pastebin sources.list file
[09:29] <KnYaz> ok
[09:33] <KnYaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56823/
[09:34] <KnYaz> ooo
[09:34] <KnYaz> sorry
[09:35] <KnYaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56824/
[09:35] <keto> pclinuxos
[09:35] <intelikey> KnYaz you are at univercity yes ?   "National Technical University of Ukraine" ?    is mirror also at univercity ?
[09:35] <KnYaz> intelikey yes :)
[09:36] <intelikey> you "ping" mirror   it is up   working ?
[09:37] <KnYaz> yes
[09:37] <KnYaz> # ping ftp.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua
[09:37] <KnYaz> PING ftp.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (10.7.1.21) 56(84) bytes of data.
[09:37] <KnYaz> 64 bytes from ftp.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (10.7.1.21): icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=0.000 ms
[09:37] <KnYaz> 64 bytes from ftp.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (10.7.1.21): icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=0.000 ms
[09:37] <intelikey> hmmm
[09:38] <KnYaz> try from internet? deb-src http://ua.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
[09:38] <intelikey> yes
[09:38] <KnYaz> ok
[09:38] <KnYaz> what lines uncomment?
[09:38] <KnYaz> say me namber http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56824/
[09:38] <KnYaz> please
[09:40] <kerric> hi all
[09:41] <geoff__> Hi, kerric
[09:41] <kerric> i was trying to install i915 and it seems i have only console right now ;)
[09:41] <kerric> can any1 help me plz ?
[09:42] <kerric> hello ?
[09:43] <intelikey> KnYaz like this.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6e2b67f0
[09:44] <warumnicht> kerric tell me
[09:44] <KnYaz> intelikey ok, thanks :)
[09:44] <kerric> warumnicht yes ?
[09:44] <intelikey> KnYaz you try that     put it in /etc/apt/sources.list     and do this.    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[09:44] <warumnicht> :)
[09:44] <KnYaz> intelikey ok
[09:45] <warumnicht> yes
[09:45] <intelikey> !xorg | kerric
[09:45] <ubotu> kerric: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:47] <intelikey> KnYaz wait
[09:47] <intelikey> KnYaz i gave you the wrong one.
[09:47] <kerric> intelikey blah, didn;t work :/
[09:47] <intelikey> sorry i made two   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d52e7238e   this is the right one.
[09:47] <KnYaz> intelikey ùë
[09:48] <intelikey> sorry. i posted the wrong one.
[09:48] <KnYaz> intelikey ok :)
[09:49] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey hi
[09:49] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti hey
[09:50] <RangdeBasanti> this doesnt seems to be working for me. can any one help please ? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m2a3dec4c
[09:51] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey well here the one with my log dir http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m53cfe415
[09:51] <rjb> hello, got a question about kwallet and password forms
[09:51] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti after seeing that eariler,  i totally rewrote it.   if you want to have a look.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d421d1f8b     it logs in the ysers home dir.
[09:51] <marina_> How come my USB keyboard works in the BIOS but stops working in the GRUB selection menu?
[09:52] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey i didnt made the .sh file as +x     executable. does that makes any difference ?
[09:52] <rjb> for one site, i once told konq to never remember passwords from this site, when the dialog popped up. now i changed my mind, how do i do that?
[09:52] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti yes it does.
[09:53] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey sh*t . i didnt made it. how can i make it then?
[09:53] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti   sudo chmod 755 filename.sh
[09:53] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti   sudo chmod 755 /path/to/filename.sh
[09:53] <marina_> Is there any way to fix that up?
[09:53] <RangdeBasanti> ok
[09:53] <storbeck> rjb, go into your passwords settings in your browser and delete the entry.
[09:54] <intelikey> marina_ i've never had to deal with that so i dont know.
[09:54] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey thanks. and iam coping your pastbine too. should i ? you dont have any copy rights do you?
[09:54] <rjb> storbeck: go where? i looked all over konq's settings and found nothing pertinent
[09:54] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey chmod 755 will make it executable? isnt it chmod +x  ?
[09:54] <storbeck> Ah, I use firefox.
[09:55] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti yes.   GNU-GPL   protected under the general public license.
[09:55] <rjb> (and don't read q's before answering them)
[09:56] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti chmod 755   will produce non-suid non-sgid non-sticky read write execute owner, read execute group, read execute other.
[09:57] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey i wana make /var/data/trckg.log     as the loging file. how
 (and don't read q's before answering them)  hehhe
[09:57] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey not home
[09:57] <storbeck> rjb, Did you try opening your wallet?
[09:58] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti then change it.   it's  near the bottom   the  L=  option
[09:58] <rjb> storbeck: sure, but found nothing much there either
[09:59] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti i didn't write that specificly for you.   i wrote it to be a generic tracker.sh    that you could also use.
[09:59] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey how can i check that the file is now executable.
[09:59] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti ls -l /path/to/filename.sh
[10:00] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti that is -l lowercase L  not uppercase i
[10:00] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2091 2008-02-21 13:55 checkprocess.sh
[10:00] <storbeck> rjb, ~/.kde/share/apps/khtml/formcompletions
[10:01] <intelikey> yep that's what you want.
[10:01] <KnYaz> intelikey yes, work, very thanks
[10:01] <KnYaz> :)
[10:01] <intelikey> KnYaz much welcome.
[10:01] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey thats what i want ?
[10:01] <storbeck> Delete the entry from [NonPasswordStorableSites]
[10:01] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti yes for permissions  'that is what you want it to be."
[10:01] <RangdeBasanti> ok
[10:02] <RangdeBasanti> should i reboot now?
[10:02] <RangdeBasanti> to make it work
[10:02] <intelikey> no
[10:02] <RangdeBasanti> then
[10:02] <intelikey> i don't recall how to reset cron...   try this   sudo /etc/init.d/cron* restart
[10:03] <intelikey> that should do it.
[10:03] <RangdeBasanti> ok
[10:03] <rjb> storbeck: thx. yep that's the file
[10:03] <RangdeBasanti>  * Restarting periodic command scheduler crond                                               [ OK ]
[10:03] <intelikey> yep.
[10:03] <rjb> and [NonPasswordStorableSites] is the sect. i'm looking for
[10:04] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey how you learned all that ?
[10:04] <rjb> (there really ought to be a GUI for that)
[10:04] <storbeck> You can always program one. ;)
[10:05] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey your too good
[10:05] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti well.    i guess it comes with age.   i'm old enough to be your cousin.
[10:05] <intelikey> :)))
[10:05] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey how old are you?
[10:06] <intelikey> about 50
[10:06] <RangdeBasanti> really ?
[10:06] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey where did you learn programing ?
[10:06] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey i wana learn too. wht language should i choose
[10:06] <RangdeBasanti> no process named checkprocess.sh is runiiing iin system gaurd now
[10:06] <Thecks> intelikey: You have an admirer :)
[10:07] <intelikey> like i told you the first fourty'leven times.   all i know about computers i have learned the "try it and reformat" methood.
[10:07] <RangdeBasanti> hm
[10:07] <intelikey> Thecks more than one.  but they quickly get over it.   first time i sujest something that they don't like...
[10:08] <RangdeBasanti> no process named checkprocess.sh is runiiing iin system gaurd now
[10:09] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti it's all hands on, "take it apart and see how it works" knowledge.
[10:09] <Thecks> intelikey: The number of times I've had to format =[
[10:09] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti it only runs when the cron daemon calls it.   at what ever interval you set in the crontab
[10:10] <Thecks> Learnt my lesson in having /home on a separate partition as well =]
[10:10] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey oh ook. it runs and it terminates. but how can i know its working? there no new /tmp/ files too
[10:10] <intelikey> Thecks i used to joke about "i reload twice a weak, whether i need to or not"   and it wasn't far from true.
[10:11] <Thecks> I'd cry if I had to do that :p
[10:11] <Thecks> I have a separate install for messing around on and trying things out now as well
[10:11] <intelikey> RangdeBasanti test it on something like ls for 10 minutes and check it's log file.
[10:11] <RangdeBasanti> gconfd-loguser1  kde-root          ksocket-root    ssh-zPGibw5464
[10:11] <RangdeBasanti> kde-loguser1     ksocket-loguser1  orbit-loguser1  xauth.XXXXYk18oe
[10:12] <intelikey> Thecks yeah i have about four systems installed on this box
[10:12] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey i set the cron for */3
[10:12]  * Thecks is on OpenSUSE right now
[10:12]  * Thecks runs and hides
[10:12] <intelikey> does */3 work ?   i thought you just use the number
[10:13] <intelikey> Thecks no no.  nothing about that to hide for,  you didn't way the M$ word....
[10:13] <Thecks> I have that on yet another partition
[10:13] <Thecks> Have to, for Photoshop work
[10:13] <intelikey> NOW HIDE!
[10:13] <intelikey> :)
[10:14] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey */3 * * * * root /usr/local/bin/checkprocess.sh
[10:15] <intelikey> if that is the script i wrote.  it has to have args to work.    $1 is the time to allow the process to remain dead,  $2 is the name of the process  and  $4- can be args to the process/command.
[10:15] <intelikey> and the process has to be a command name.
[10:16] <RangdeBasanti> hmmmm
[10:16] <intelikey> call it without any agrs and it will display the help message
[10:17] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey in that script i gave you.  some body said =
 == as an argument of [ is not standard use = instead(ie works in bash but not with the standard test command)
 quote all your expansions juse in case, "$var" but also your "`find  /tmp...`"
 use $( ) instead of ` ` so that inner quotes don't bother you like: echo "$( echo "foo  bar")"
[10:18] <kurniawano> quit
[10:18] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey true?
   that's not the script i was talking about.  i was talking about the one i wrote.
[10:19] <RangdeBasanti> oh.. i didnt used it yet
[10:20] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey i wanted to see whats wrong with the sartons one?
[10:20] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey should i use yours?
[10:21] <intelikey> then why were we talking about "<RangdeBasanti> intelikey i wana make /var/data/trckg.log     as the loging file. how<RangdeBasanti> intelikey not home  <intelikey> RangdeBasanti then change it.   it's  near the bottom   the  L= option"  <<<<?
[10:21] <intelikey> heck no.  don't use mine.   write your own.   :)
[10:22] <intelikey> i've been dubble talked and second guessed enough on that one.
[10:22]  * intelikey reminds self that posting it to a public pastebin as gnu-gpl does mean that it's not mine anymore....
[10:23] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey i just commented
[10:23] <The_ManU_212> hi
[10:23] <intelikey> it's ours now.
[10:23] <RangdeBasanti> ok :)
[10:23] <intelikey> The_ManU_212
[10:23] <The_ManU_212> in american comics, when something is cut by a scissor how is this action called, something like zing?
[10:24] <The_ManU_212> or whap
[10:24] <The_ManU_212> i'm german and dont have american comics
[10:24] <The_ManU_212> thought here are some guys who know it
[10:24] <KnYaz> Konversation with proxy not work? :(
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> "snip"?
[10:25] <The_ManU_212> SlimeyPete: ah sounds like german schnipp
[10:25] <The_ManU_212> thx u
[10:25] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey is there a way to reverse the script.  lock desktop after its been 30 mins past of previous unlock event
[10:26] <intelikey> you can
[10:26] <RangdeBasanti> by your script?
[10:26] <intelikey> with some adjustments.
[10:26] <RangdeBasanti> hm
[10:26] <RangdeBasanti> and log it
[10:26] <intelikey> get those guys --->
[10:26] <intelikey> over there to adjuste it for you.
[10:27] <intelikey> i'm finsihed for the day.
[10:27] <RangdeBasanti> intelikey  ok. dont worry. iam not going to ask you. you already did alot . thanks :)
[10:27] <intelikey> have a safe today and a better tomarrow.  i'm out.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:29] <g7s> action are u from ksa :)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> nar man, uk represent
[10:33] <what_if> I am upgrading from feisty to gusty should I go 64 bit? Is there any reason *not* to.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> what_if, flash plugin is a bit of a pain
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> what_if, if you are on 32bit you cant upgrade to 64 bit without a clean install
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> of 64bit
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> what_if, depends what you use your system for?
[10:35] <jussi01> !java64
[10:35] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:35] <mhollisjr> how do I diagnose a segfault?
[10:35] <what_if> ActionParsnip: is there any benefit to going 64 bit??
[10:36] <what_if> ActionParsnip: system used for gaming, internet, generic linux fun
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> what_if, depends what you use your system for. If you use it like mine for chatting and browsing then not really :)
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> what_if, im sure some people would disagree but thats my take on it
[10:37] <rjb> what_if: it makes a big difference if you're into scientific calculations
[10:37] <what_if> rjb: no calculations (except kcalc, lol )
[10:37] <rjb> & the difference may be for better, or for worse, depending on your needs
[10:38] <what_if> I'll just go 32 bit for now. I have no need for 64 and need my flash/youtube/nvidia drivers
[10:38] <rjb> 'cause it might be the case that you need to use legacy software/libs that don't compile in 64bit
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> what_if, if you are happy with what you have, don't change it. Loads of idiots got vista despite being ok with xp and had loads of issues
[10:39] <rjb> btw nvidia drivers work fine on my 64bit system
[10:39] <rjb> 3d accel and all
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> i run 32bit for ease
[10:40] <rjb> i switched to 32 on one of my machines when i found a software package i wanted to use wouldn't run on a 64bit system
[10:40] <rjb> in spite of its authors providing a 64bit package and saying it works
[10:41] <twosouls82> 64 everything works, sometimes I convert 386 packages to -32bit_x86_64 for other things to work using the emulation layer
[10:42] <rjb> twosouls82: don't say everything, you have not tested every single software package for linux that is out there
[10:42] <twosouls82> virtually everything then
[10:43] <twosouls82> :)
[10:43] <rjb> it is not hard for software to be incompatible with 64bit mode, depending on how it's written
[10:44] <twosouls82> rjb: I assume existing packages for 64 bit architectures are QAed (?)
[10:44] <rjb> and stuff that was written before there were any 64bit CPU's on the market often suffers from that
[10:44] <rjb> twosouls82: just like the 32bit packages
[10:44] <twosouls82> so we are the reviewers
[10:44] <rjb> bugs are reported, tracked and (hopefully) get fixed
[10:46] <rjb> (the software i was talking about up there was not from ubuntu repos, it was more exotic/specialized stuff)
[10:51] <peto> ---------- my cube is to close, how can i change the distance of view -----------
[10:57] <peto> ---------- my cube is to close, how can i change the distance of view -----------
[10:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> peto: what do you mean?
[11:00] <peto> i dont know how to explane it
[11:00] <mhollisjr> you don't have to I understand, one moment
[11:01] <jussi01> peto: try in #compiz-fusion
[11:01] <peto> i would like to see my cube when i rotating from bigger distance
[11:01] <peto> because now is too close
[11:01] <mhollisjr> you'll want to run ccsm
[11:01] <peto> ok, i am there
[11:01] <mhollisjr> then the rotate cube plugin it's called zoom in general
[11:02] <c0p-1-cr0n> hi
[11:02] <jussi01> hi
[11:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> hi
[11:03] <peto> mhollisjr i couldnt find it
[11:03] <jussi01> peto: did you ask in #compiz-fusion?
[11:03] <peto> no
[11:03] <mhollisjr> ccsm > Desktop > rotate cube > general > zoom
[11:04] <peto> i got it... mhollisjr thx
[11:04] <mhollisjr> no problem peto
[11:04] <peto> mhollisjr it was really easy :)
[11:05] <mhollisjr> the hardest thing about compiz is finding stuff ^^
[11:05] <peto> mhollisjr and do you know how can i set up a different wallpapers in walls of cube
[11:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> so what is the functional advantage of having compiz installed?  Don't count the eye candy portion.
[11:05] <mhollisjr> that I don't know
[11:05] <mhollisjr> for me, it's quicker ot move around
[11:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> mhollisjr: faster than the key combination?
[11:06] <mhollisjr> I still use the key combinations
[11:07] <ACOSTA__> hi
[11:07] <mhollisjr> it's hard to explain I don't really have to reorient myself because things change too quickly, since they smoothly change my eyes follow them quicker and I can react quicker
[11:07] <mhollisjr> I know that sounds kinda backwards but it does improve my productivity (if you can call it that)
[11:07] <ACOSTA__> how do i disable the zooming effect on a icon when i launch?
[11:07] <ACOSTA__> +it
[11:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> I can't justify installing it and using the resources for that if I don't get any performance improvements.
[11:08] <mhollisjr> -nod- for me it's visual performance improvements, faster reeactions
[11:08] <mhollisjr> no doubt the computer's hurting a bit but quad core 4gb geforce 7900 can handle a bit of a hit
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> peto, you can but you cant have desktop icons if you do
[11:11] <peto> oouu
[11:11] <peto> realy
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> yeah. Its lame but if you are REALLY that bothered you can
[11:12] <cpk1_> can I have dhcpd listen on 2 interfaces (eth0 and ath0) and assign ips in the same subnet (192.168.1.XXX)?
[11:12] <storbeck> Why would you want to?
[11:12] <peto> so how can i put different images there now
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> storbeck, im guessing ones for wireless and ones wired
[11:12] <mhollisjr> don't have a router? ^^
[11:12] <peto> how can i set up it
[11:13] <storbeck> Ah, he's making his own router. Got it.
[11:13] <cpk1_> was that "why would you want to" directed at me?
[11:14] <storbeck> It was, not anymore.
[11:14] <cpk1> I would bridge it but bridging was kinda hit and miss before
[11:14] <cpk1> and some of the reading I was doing suggested that bridging wireless and wired doesnt quite work
[11:15] <storbeck> cpk1: http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> peto, let me find a howto
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> peto, http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?p=108283
[11:17] <storbeck> mepislovers *chuckles*
[11:17] <cpk1> storbeck: I already have everything configured for wired dhcp serving, I am wondering if I can just tell dhcp to listen on ath0 and be done or if I need to make a whole new subnet entry and whatnot
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> peto, may help >http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=8d1910afe5ab8ec81a0262dcbd87a1ec&t=600909#post3693639
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> storbeck, both are debian based
[11:18] <cpk1> actually pretty sure they need to be seperate
[11:18] <cpk1> blah
[11:18] <cpk1> more work
[11:18] <storbeck> I would assume you need a new subset.
[11:19] <storbeck> ActionParsnip, I know
[11:20] <peto> ActionParsnip how
[11:20] <peto> ActionParsnip: did you find out?
[11:21] <peto> because i can see a imagese of different wallpapers with icnons as well
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> peto, dude i just sent you like 2 links
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> peto, see above
[11:21] <peto> ok
[11:21] <peto> thx
[11:46] <peto> does anyone know how to get a weather info on the screen in kubuntu
[11:47] <jussi01> !superkaramba
[11:47] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[11:47] <Lynoure> peto: yes, there is a good applet for that, kweather
[11:47] <Thecks> I wish Google Desktop supported Widgets for Linux =[
[11:49] <peto> lynoure i installed it, what do i need to do now
[11:50] <Lynoure> peto: right-click on a panel, choose 'add applet'
[11:50] <Lynoure> peto: then just choose kweather from the list
[11:52] <peto> ok, thx
[11:55] <peto> is it possible to get that applet to top corner on the screen
[11:58] <Lynoure> peto: yes, you can move them...
[11:59] <Lynoure> peto: hover left of them with a mouse and a control area appears, rightclick, 'Move Weather Report'
[12:03] <peto> i dont know why, but that kweather is not there
[12:03] <peto> i installed one more, that one is in that menu and i can choose it, but kweather is not there
[12:03] <peto> i got it...
[12:03] <peto> its ok now
[12:04] <dhq_> i have internal mic on my laptop but it doesnt work
[12:05] <edneymatias> hi all
[12:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello edney
[12:06] <edneymatias> hello gundam!
[12:06] <edneymatias> i'm running kubuntu 7.10 with kde4 packages from launchpad ppa and i'm having problems with koqueror to access my company webmail
[12:07] <edneymatias> i search for informations and it seems tha apache ssl is misconfigured...
[12:08] <edneymatias> something to do with named virtual hosts ssl
[12:08] <edneymatias> so when i try to connect...i got a message telling me the protocol process terminated
[12:08] <edneymatias> something like that...
[12:09] <edneymatias> with firefox beta 3....i got a message like that...but i was able to add an exception
[12:09] <edneymatias> to the site
[12:09] <edneymatias> but didn't find a way in konqueror
[12:09] <edneymatias> if it exists...
[12:11] <edneymatias> i'm not sure...but in some moment in the past...during kde 4 rc series...i already accessed the site...
[12:12] <edneymatias> i don't remember...but i think things got wrong when i switched to ppa repositories
[12:13] <edneymatias> anyone knows what can possible be done?
[12:16] <Piaireuh> Hello, is there any French aroud here ?
[12:16] <NickPresta> !fr | Piaireuh
[12:16] <ubotu> Piaireuh: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:17] <edneymatias> nop?
[12:17] <edneymatias> sorry
[12:17] <edneymatias> i saw... :)
[12:17] <dhq__> i have internal mic on my laptop but it doesnt work
[12:17] <edneymatias> kubuntu-kde4
[12:18] <squid0> dhq__: try selecting it under kmix
[12:19] <squid0> the radio button
[12:19] <dhq__> squid0: well i dont see it under kmix
[12:19] <squid0> look at 'Mic' under Input tab
[12:20] <dhq__> squid0: well i enebled it there but no difference
[12:20] <edneymatias> see ya!
[12:21] <squid0> dhq__: hmm. maybe try the Mic Boost switch under 'switches'?
[12:21] <dhq__> squid0: well i dont have it
[12:21] <squid0> or just open krec or audacity and try recording something. maybe it actually does work
[12:21] <squid0> but the volume may be soft, or something
[12:26] <ubuntu> hey
[12:26] <genjix> whats a good root partition size?
[12:26] <genjix> 4 gb?
[12:28] <Lynoure> genjix: Depends on how much stuff you plan to have there, and which parts you'll have separate. I seem to use 4.3G currently
[12:29] <Xbehave> all my ttys are broken, is this due to a bad vga setting, what should i set vga to on an intel? (i think somebody helped me here before, thx but i cant seam to get the right vga setting)
[12:30] <Lynoure> genjix: but I have kde3 and kde4, and lots of other stuff
[12:31] <dhq__> squid0: it doesnt record
[12:31] <squid0> dhq__: i don't know
[12:31] <genjix> ok thanks Lynoure
[12:32] <plantain> Hey, my applets randomly don't load, can anyone tell me why this might be?
[12:32] <plantain> Most importantly, what the default sound applet in KDE3.5 is called? I can't decrease my volume with it gone :S
[12:34] <dante_> как народу то много...
[12:34] <Lynoure>  plantain: kmix
[12:34] <dante_> рашнспикинг есть?
[12:34] <jpatrick> !ru | dante_
[12:34] <ubotu> dante_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:35] <dante_> sanks
[12:35] <dante_> drop me out here... a dont remember how))
[12:35] <Thecks> рашнспикинг есть?
[12:36] <Lynoure> dante_: /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:36] <Lynoure> dante_: if I understood your question right.. if you meant how to leave, that's just /leave #kubuntu
[12:37] <dante_> yes...leave
[12:38] <Thecks> /part #kubuntu
[12:45] <neville> plantain have you tried Kmixer?
[12:48] <dhq> please someone help me with my mic
[12:48] <Dr_willis> !record
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <Dr_willis> I never use a mic under linux. sorry.
[12:49] <Dr_willis> well actually i have.. but i just plugged it in.. and it worked. :)  of course my Audigy card has a mic port right there on the front just for mics.  So many of these newer sound cards have multi ports that could be a mic, or rear speakers or other bits.. it gets confuseing.
[12:50] <dhq> Dr_willis: well i need the mic i have no clue what to do
[12:50] <Dr_willis> Plug it into the mic slot on the soune card?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Youve not really stated what the problem is.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> im assuming it just 'dosent work'
[13:01] <dhq> Dr_willis: how do i restore my sound system to when kubuntu was 1st installed
[13:02] <identity> anybody knows how to watch divx full screen on PS3 kubuntu , vlc and mplayer ?
[13:02] <Dr_willis> dhq,  you are saying sound used to work but now it dosent? or what exactly.
[13:03] <Dr_willis> with mplayer and vlc - i thought the 'f' key enabled fullscreen mode
[13:04] <dhq> Dr_willis: before mic worked now it doesnt
[13:05] <Dr_willis> dhq,  guess ya need to mess with the kmixer, or alsa-mixer tools then.
[13:05] <Dr_willis> You may have it muted some how/
[13:24] <noname> er... Hello, I've got a problem with a bunch of files created in windows, they all have names in cp1251, so in dolphin their names are replaced with question marks... How can I view their names properly?
[13:30] <heras> noname: "apt-cache search cyrillic" returns a bunch of font packages. One of those may fix your problem.
[13:34] <RurouniJones> howdy all, is there a way I can get Amarok 1.4.8 and libgpod 6.0 installed on my gutsy system without having to upgrade half of it? Out of curiosity I added the hardy repo but asking to update Amarok requrie updating the KDE base packages. Is it possible to et aroudn this or will I have to install a local copy form source?
[13:35] <noname> heras: thank you, I'll try that
[14:05] <ForgeAus> ahh remember the stuff about how a .deb is compressed?
[14:05] <ForgeAus> I found the utility to decompress them
[14:05] <ForgeAus> not sure if it comes in ubuntu by default but I guess it would
[14:05] <ForgeAus> ...
[14:06] <ForgeAus> ar is the program
[14:06] <emilsedgh> a deb is a tar.gz package
[14:06] <ForgeAus> (if even interix, the most barebones *ix I've ever seen has it and ubuntu is based on debian, then I'd gather its there somewhere)
[14:06] <ForgeAus> not exactly emil
[14:06] <ForgeAus> its two tarballs inside a .deb archive
[14:06] <ForgeAus> (a control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz inside an ar archive)
[14:07] <ForgeAus> its just that the ar archive happens to have a .deb extension hehe :)
[14:07] <ForgeAus> data appears to be where the binaries go, I'm not so sure about what the control.tar.gz is about probably either source or config information
[14:08] <alterego> do you ever throw anything out that is absolutely valuable and delicious to eat like chicken wings?
[14:08] <ForgeAus> alterego you mean no need for ar because its a low level tool and dpkg does it all?
[14:09] <ForgeAus> but what happens when your dpkg breaks?
[14:09] <ForgeAus> or on a system that doesn't ahve a working dpkg?
[14:09] <alterego> what is dpkg
[14:09] <ForgeAus> its fine for kubuntu... but for interix it wasnt
[14:10] <raidu> Hey can anyone help me with a bug?
[14:10] <ForgeAus> dpkg is what apt-get and adept and kpackage and aptitude, etc all run to open and install .deb packages
[14:10] <ForgeAus> dselect is another one
[14:10] <ForgeAus> what kinda bug raidu?
[14:10] <raidu> the abept installer has a bug
[14:11] <raidu> i cant understand why the hell it makes it to shut down
[14:11] <ForgeAus> like I asked what kinda bug?
[14:11] <ForgeAus> um what package(s) did you install?
[14:11] <raidu> Kiso
[14:11] <patoruzu> hey guys...when will kde 3.5.9 will be upgraded to the repos???
[14:11] <ForgeAus> hmm ok well then I'm not sure
[14:12] <raidu> and new updates and gmount
[14:12] <ForgeAus> um what kinda new updates?
[14:12] <ForgeAus> I could understand possibly a kernel update requiring a restart
[14:13] <raidu> so can you help me?
[14:13] <ForgeAus> what you mean it makes adept close on you unexpectedly?
[14:13] <ForgeAus> or the comptuer shut down?
[14:13] <raidu> yea
[14:13] <raidu> the first one
[14:13] <ForgeAus> oh um perhaps it was going out of its mind trying to calculate something...
[14:13] <raidu> when i try to start adept installer then it closes
[14:14] <ForgeAus> um... try doing the updates individually
[14:14] <raidu> i did like 3 restarts
[14:14] <raidu> nothing
[14:14] <ForgeAus> really? um sounds like your lacking memory space of some kind
[14:14] <raidu> 1,5 GB ram
[14:14] <raidu> and 250 GB disk
[14:14] <ForgeAus> yeah but what are you running to fill the 1.5gb :)
[14:15] <raidu> emm theres nothing else running than koversation and gaim
[14:15] <ForgeAus> why both?
[14:16] <ForgeAus> why gaim anyway in the first place
[14:16] <raidu> msn and irc
[14:16] <ForgeAus> A) its been replaced by pigdin
[14:16] <ForgeAus> and B) kopete does most of the protocols
[14:16] <raidu> i think im sitting on a old KDE :P
[14:16] <ForgeAus> including both msn and irc!
[14:16] <raidu> yea that i know
[14:17] <raidu> so theres no way that the installer can be fixed?
[14:17] <NthDegree> gaim and pidgin are the same thing
[14:17] <NthDegree> raidu: run Adept in a terminal
[14:17] <NthDegree> if it fails to load
[14:17] <ForgeAus> raidu you could use apt-get instead
[14:17] <ForgeAus> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[14:18] <NthDegree> Adept in a terminal and debug the issue
[14:18] <NthDegree> don't put up with problems that can be easy to fix
[14:18] <ForgeAus> I agree NthDegree, only I generally don't know how to fix the problems :)
[14:19] <raidu> emm maybe you can tell me the code to run adept in term.
[14:19] <NthDegree> raidu: open konsole#
[14:19] <raidu> i have been using KDE for a week only
[14:19] <raidu> its opend
[14:19] <raidu> opened
[14:19] <NthDegree> sudo adept_installer
[14:19] <storbeck> [09:17] <NthDegree> gaim and pidgin are the same thing
[14:19] <storbeck> Sort of, gaim is obsolete though.
[14:19] <Pici> !gaim
[14:19] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[14:20] <Pici> hmm... that needs to be fixed.
[14:20] <NthDegree> storbeck: they are.. in RHEL pidgin is gaim with the branding changed :P
[14:20] <NthDegree> in other distros it's the actual thing
[14:20] <TameLion> :O kubotu has eaten ubotu
[14:20] <Pici> Gaim was forced to change its name by AOL, so its now called Pidgin (in Gutsy and higher)
[14:20] <appelza> lmao
[14:20] <NthDegree> but apart from branding changes and a new location for config files .purple not a lot has changed
[14:20] <appelza> !gaim
[14:20] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[14:20] <appelza> :D
[14:21] <appelza> nice.
[14:21] <appelza> kopete > gaim ;p
[14:21] <NthDegree> indeed
[14:21] <NthDegree> I use Kopete
[14:21] <raidu> nthdegree
[14:21] <NthDegree> as soon as I use gaim though.. then it's a different story ;)
[14:21] <storbeck> I don't see why gaim was forced to change their name, and naim wasn't.
[14:21] <raidu> it says that its a baddevice
[14:22] <NthDegree> storbeck: they got paid to
[14:22] <NthDegree> AOL paid them
[14:22] <storbeck> Ah
[14:22] <NthDegree> the gaim people got money for it
[14:22] <raidu> invaild or uninitaialized input device 169
[14:22] <storbeck> Now I do :D
[14:22] <NthDegree> raidu: paste it all in pastebin :P
[14:22] <NthDegree> then gimme the link and i'll take a look
[14:23] <raidu> pastebin? :S sorry i know im stupid :P
[14:23] <NthDegree> !pastebin
[14:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:23] <NthDegree> paste every line konsole printed into a pastebin
[14:23] <NthDegree> then gimme the URL it returns
[14:24] <raidu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56842/
[14:24] <NthDegree> okay.. try kdesudo adept_installer
[14:25] <raidu> no command found
[14:25] <NthDegree> which Kubuntu version are you on? >.>
[14:25] <alterego> does it ever bother you if people give you things when you aren't even ready?
[14:25] <raidu> where can i check it ? :P
[14:25] <jussi01> !release
[14:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[14:25] <Pici> gaim
[14:25] <jussi01> !version
[14:25] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[14:25] <Pici> !gaim
[14:25] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete
[14:25] <Pici> !im
[14:25] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[14:26] <Pici> Fixed :)
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187025
[14:26] <TameLion> pld Pici - was it aliased incorrectly?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree, Looks like the tablet devices to me
[14:27] <ForgeAus> kewl tablets :)
[14:27] <raidu> NthDegree its 7.04 :P i think its old? :P
[14:27] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip: as in synaptics drivers?
[14:27] <Pici> TameLion: Yeahm !gaim-> !im, but !im-#kubuntu was pointed to !kopete.
[14:27] <jean-michel> slt
[14:27] <ForgeAus> I want a 17" (or even A4 sized) convetible tablet PC (/notebook)
[14:27] <NthDegree> raidu: I wonder why you don't have a kdesudo then :|
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185930
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree, the wacom stuff I think in xorg.conf
[14:27] <raidu> so its old ? :P
[14:28] <NthDegree> raidu: erm...
[14:28] <NthDegree> not that old xD
[14:28] <raidu> hmm
[14:28] <NthDegree> 7.10 would be current
[14:28] <raidu> how can i upgrade it ? is there anyway?
[14:29] <NthDegree> raidu: never bother with upgrades
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> raidu, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:29] <NthDegree> if you're going to get the latest version then grab the CD and do a live install
[14:29] <SlimeyPete> you can upgrade, but personally I always do a clean install
[14:29] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip: dist-upgrade
[14:29] <SlimeyPete> !gutsy
[14:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[14:29] <NthDegree> upgrade is for updating
[14:29] <NthDegree> dist-upgrade is for upgrading
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> ActionParsnip: he'd need to alter his sources.list first AFAIK.
[14:30] <NthDegree> and update is for caching the latest sources.lst bits
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> SlimeyPete, stock ones should update what s/he has installed
[14:30] <NthDegree> yeah he needs to replace all instances of feisty with gutsy
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> ActionParsnip: yeah but not to the next release
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree, s/he's on feisty?
[14:31]  * ActionParsnip gasps
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> 14:27 < raidu> NthDegree its 7.04 :P i think its old? :P
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> :)
[14:31] <NthDegree> it's one release old
[14:31] <NthDegree> what's the issue?
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> I still run Feisty on my desktop
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree, Hardy is round the corner making it nearly 2 releases old
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> haven't had any reason to upgrade yet
[14:31] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip: that's not an issue either
[14:32] <raidu> damn i want to fix the adept installer problem
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree, true if it aint broke...
[14:32] <raidu> :( :P
[14:32] <NthDegree> raidu: either 1) wait for hardy heron 2) upgrade to gutsy
[14:32] <NthDegree> but i'd wait for hardy
[14:32] <NthDegree> and grab the KDE 3.5 variety
[14:32] <NthDegree> the KDE 4 variety (according to their mailing list) will be supported for 6 months only
[14:33] <raidu> emm maybe you can tell me how to upgrade because that would help a little :P
[14:33] <NthDegree> and KDE 4 is not worth using yet :P
[14:33] <raidu> i have 3.5
[14:33] <NthDegree> raidu: best way is download the Gutsy CD and clean install
[14:33] <raidu> damn then i will lose alot of stuff :P
[14:33] <NthDegree> *sigh*
[14:33] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't go as far as to say kde4 isn't worth using yet
[14:33] <NthDegree> didn't your mother teach you to have a separate /home partition?
[14:34] <NthDegree> I suppose you can upgrade.. but I don't recommend it
[14:34] <raidu> emm my mom doesnt know .... about that :P
[14:34] <Dr_willis> Momma says.. BACKUP Yo Porn! :)
[14:34] <raidu> lol
[14:34] <raidu> what the hell lets try to upgrade
[14:34] <NthDegree> replace all instances of feisty with gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[14:34] <Pici> !upgrade
[14:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:34] <NthDegree> then do sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:35] <Pici> Please follow the proper upgrade instructions, replacing stuff in sources.list may not always work.
[14:35] <Dr_willis> apt-get me a beer
[14:35] <NthDegree> Pici: that is for Ubuntu
[14:35] <NthDegree> and his Adept does NOT work
[14:36] <NthDegree> so he can't do it that way
[14:36] <ForgeAus> apt-get one yourself you lazy <insert insult here>
[14:36] <Dr_willis> i always install synaptic  and use it.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> cat /dev/beer > //home/Dr_willis/mouth (SYMLink to stomach)
[14:36] <Dr_willis> Buffer Over flow error  Core Dumped.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis, do you have the liver package installed
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> :))
[14:37] <NthDegree> Dr_willis: stop spreading your Win32/Diarrhoea :P
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> nice
[14:37] <Dr_willis> apt-get upgrade liver
[14:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> i wish :(
[14:37] <raidu> nth so i donwload feisty or how i do it?
[14:38] <NthDegree> there are two ways
[14:38] <NthDegree> to upgrade
[14:38] <NthDegree> 1) is do what I said about replacing the sources
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas All  :-)
[14:38] <NthDegree> 2) use an Alternate Installation CD, but that may have issues of it's own (i've never used it for an upgrade)
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !hi | BluesKaj
[14:38] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[14:39] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[14:39] <NthDegree> raidu: the normal way is to let Adept tell you there's a new release and then you upgrade that way.. but your adept is broken so....
[14:39] <raidu> o grap
[14:39] <raidu> k time to download the new ver :P
[14:40] <NthDegree> raidu: wait for Hardy Heron, back up your data and install a clean version then is my advice
[14:40] <NthDegree> and partition so your system has about 30GB and the rest goes to /home
[14:40] <ForgeAus> hehe NthDegree I'd say wait for the Icy Iguana or whatever the one after Hardy will be called :)
[14:41] <Pici> ForgeAus: Intrepid Ibex
[14:41] <ForgeAus> lol kewl
[14:41] <Pici> !ibex
[14:41] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[14:41] <NthDegree> Intimate Iguana.. just for the ladies ;)
[14:41] <NthDegree> I want J to be Jumping Jackal hehe
[14:41] <ForgeAus> Intrepid's a kewl name for an OS :)
[14:42] <Pici> ForgeAus: I think its neat too
[14:42] <ForgeAus> dunno about the jumping but Jackal has a good chance of being right
[14:42] <ForgeAus> I can't quite remember what an ibex is, some kinda cattle? or a bird?
[14:42] <Dr_willis> tall thin bird
[14:43] <Dr_willis> seen in egyption  stuff all the time i recall.
[14:43] <faadale> suomea kukaan täällä?
[14:43] <Pici> Dr_willis: An ibex is a mountain goat.
[14:43] <ForgeAus> no DrWillis your thinking Ibis
[14:43] <NthDegree> Joyous Jaguar
[14:43] <NthDegree> >.>
[14:43] <Dr_willis> what the heck is that tall bird then..
[14:43] <Dr_willis> ebex?
[14:43] <Pici> Ibis? Heron?
[14:43] <NthDegree> or a bit of a cheeky one could be Jerky Jackal >.>
[14:44] <Dr_willis> Ibis may be it then. :)
[14:44] <ForgeAus> yeah basicaly wild goats
[14:44] <Dr_willis> I recall a show on egypt - showed  some bird headed man with the head of a ibis (must of been what they said)
[14:44] <ForgeAus> nah more like Jovial Jackal or Jousty Jackal or something
[14:44] <BluesKaj> heh, it's obvious these (k)ubuntu "names" are chosen by commitee ... how much more lame can these "names" get anyway ? :(
[14:44] <Dr_willis> I think wee need a "Sick Of Silly names Snake"
[14:45] <ForgeAus> lol Blues :)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> could have KUbuntu 2008
[14:45] <Dr_willis> I vote we name them after  porn stars. :) and i will shut up now.
[14:45]  * ActionParsnip waits for hate
[14:45] <ForgeAus> K will be interesing
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> :D
[14:45] <ForgeAus> Knightly Kipling?
[14:45] <Dr_willis> Dead Poets. :)
[14:45] <Dr_willis> Beast;y Bach
[14:45] <Dr_willis> Shaky Shakespear
[14:46] <ForgeAus> Stoned Singer ?
[14:46] <Dr_willis> Pretty Poe
[14:46] <Dr_willis> Lovely Lovecraft
[14:46] <ForgeAus> Torrid Treefrog ?
[14:46] <jussi01> !ot
[14:46] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:46] <ForgeAus> aww jussi, we're just having some fun
[14:46] <NthDegree> ZOMG Zebra!
[14:46] <NthDegree> >.>
[14:46] <Dr_willis> I want 'pun' names like 'Emanual transmission'
[14:46] <jussi01> ForgeAus: you can have fun in -offtopic
[14:47] <BluesKaj> c'mon Hardy Heron , even a poltically correct suburban houswewife can be more adventurous than that :)
[14:47] <ForgeAus> yeah but the people here aren't all in offtopic are they?
[14:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i think intrepid may be the release that drives people away from using the code names
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Zoomy Zebra
[14:47] <NthDegree> jussi01: if there's no support questions.. no problem
[14:47] <jussi01> ForgeAus: thats why I mentioned it :)
[14:47] <ForgeAus> that would be good Daisuke :)
[14:47] <Dr_willis> The Animal Name stuff does confuse a lot of newbies at work
[14:48] <NthDegree> K can be Kissing Kangaroo
[14:48] <NthDegree> >.>
[14:48] <BluesKaj> zebras are lion feed
[14:48] <NthDegree> F should have been Flaunting Feline
[14:48] <NthDegree> >.>
[14:48] <jussi01> All, please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic thanks :)
[14:49] <NthDegree> my bad... this naming stuff is contageous :$
[14:49] <dancemusiconly> i need some help. could smb help??
[14:49] <NthDegree> dancemusiconly: what's the problem?
[14:49] <NthDegree> !ask
[14:49] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:49] <Dr_willis> Offtopic Ostrach - the offical mascot of #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:49] <Dr_willis> Samba! i can do that. :)
[14:49] <Dr_willis> !samba
[14:50] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[14:50] <BluesKaj> jussi01, wjo appointed you the OT police ? :)
[14:50] <ForgeAus> its not Ostrach its Osteritch I think
[14:50] <ForgeAus> or something similar
[14:50] <dancemusiconly> well i've got codex installed, but video is coloured green and there is no volume
[14:50] <dancemusiconly> what to do????
[14:50] <NthDegree> dancemusiconly: what codecs are we on about?
[14:50] <NthDegree> you need to be more specific
[14:50] <Dr_willis> Ohh Not 'samba' help. :)
[14:51] <Dr_willis> the video has a green tint?
[14:51] <NthDegree> Dr_willis: he's a txt-talker :P
[14:51] <Dr_willis> and is this with ATI or Nvidia cards?
[14:51] <dancemusiconly> video codex all of them any type of video
[14:51] <dancemusiconly> ati
[14:51] <Dr_willis> i was guessing ati..
[14:51] <jussi01> !avi | dancemusiconly
[14:51] <NthDegree> dancemusiconly: which set of drivers are you using?
[14:51] <Dr_willis> ive heard of others with similer issues, some are grey scale, some hae odd colors..
[14:51] <ubotu> dancemusiconly: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:52] <NthDegree> have you tried using xv rather than OpenGL rendering?
[14:52] <dancemusiconly> ahh don't ask me such questions i've just started using kubuntu
[14:52] <ForgeAus> whats xv rendering?
[14:52] <NthDegree> dancemusiconly: you use Kaffeine right?
[14:52] <NthDegree> for playing videos I mean
[14:52] <dancemusiconly> yeap
[14:52] <ForgeAus> oh ok
[14:52] <OsirisX> hi guys.....busy with online course....how would i display the content of etc/passwd sorted on group id
[14:53] <NthDegree> Settings > Xine Engine Parameters
[14:53] <NthDegree> click Video
[14:53] <Dr_willis> OsirisX,  i think the sort command has an option tod o by colum
[14:53] <NthDegree> change "Auto" to "xv"
[14:53] <NthDegree> then try
[14:53] <dancemusiconly> ok. i'll try
[14:53] <NthDegree> if that fails then try "OpenGL"
[14:54] <NthDegree> go through each rendering engine one by one
[14:54] <NthDegree> see if it makes any difference, it usually does
[14:54] <OsirisX> can someone type the command so i can copy and paste it to test please :)
[14:54]  * NthDegree be back in a bit, need a drink ^.^
[14:55] <dancemusiconly> thanx
[14:55] <llutz> OsirisX: guess the course reason is, that _you_ learn things beyond c&p
[14:55] <dancemusiconly> that worked)))
[14:55] <dancemusiconly> bye
[14:56] <Dr_willis> man sort
[14:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:56] <Dr_willis> or use awk
[14:57] <konrad> I'm using a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 but don't get any sound playing MIDI-files. Synth is on maximum on the mixer settings. Any ideas how I can get the sound working? I'm using Kmid to play
[14:58] <OsirisX> dr_willis.....nothing on sort for coloums
[14:59] <Dr_willis> -k, --key=POS1[,POS2]
[14:59] <OsirisX> k...will try that
[15:00] <OsirisX> What regex matches lines that consist entirely of digits?
[15:00] <Dr_willis> depends on the regexp language the program is supporting
[15:00] <Dr_willis> theres a [num] thing in THINKin some
[15:01] <Dr_willis> but not all programs support that.
[15:01] <Dr_willis> visual-regexp - Interactively debug regular expressions
[15:01] <Dr_willis> kregexpeditor - graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE
[15:03] <raidu> willis
[15:03] <raidu> do u know how to fix adept installer?
[15:04] <Pici> Depends whats wrong with it.
[15:04] <raidu> it crashes when its loading the list
[15:04] <Dr_willis> i rarely use adept. i perfer syaptic
[15:04] <raidu> icons and stuff
[15:04] <Dr_willis> see if  the command line tools have issues also
[15:04] <raidu> u mean term?
[15:05] <Dr_willis> !terminal
[15:05] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[15:05] <Dr_willis> !cli
[15:05] <Dr_willis> yes
[15:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:05] <NthDegree> raidu: yeah like using apt-get and aptitude
[15:05] <NthDegree> !konsole
[15:05] <NthDegree> =[
[15:05] <raidu> yea term had problems
[15:06] <Dr_willis> saw someone the other day had apt issies/ he had to clean out 2 files in his  /var/cache/apt/SOMTHING dir
[15:06] <Pici> !adeptfix
[15:06] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:07] <raidu> says for that command that it wasnt found
[15:08] <raidu> i replaced the user thing to
[15:08] <Dr_willis> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:08] <Pici> What user thing?
[15:08] <Dr_willis> was not found?
[15:08] <raidu> yea
[15:08] <Dr_willis> i would guess.. a typo on your part was the issue
[15:08] <Pici> raidu: What user thing did you replace?
[15:08] <raidu> fuser
[15:09] <NthDegree> fuser?
[15:09] <raidu> ok now i didnt and it did nothing :S
[15:09] <NthDegree> raidu: if you receive no messages that means it worked
[15:09] <raidu> o
[15:09] <NthDegree> when you get no error message generally that means something has worked
[15:10] <raidu> k i thought it will give me a line of stuff that its fixing or smth :P
[15:10] <raidu> lol still not working :P
[15:10] <NthDegree> [K]ubuntu isn't the type of distro that adheres to Windows style "everything is okay" philosophy
[15:10] <NthDegree> until it tells you something is wrong, generally you can assume all is okay :P
[15:10] <BluesKaj> raidu, the best practice for following the instructions here is to copy and paste the text into the konsole... trying to retype them can really do damage
[15:11] <raidu> k i wont retype never again :P
[15:11] <NthDegree> BluesKaj: till someone makes a factoid for !rm-rf-forwardslash ;)
[15:11] <ForgeAus> lol blues :)
[15:11] <ForgeAus> only if you mistype them
[15:11] <ForgeAus> nthdegree??
[15:11] <raidu> what that thing does ? :P
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, well, I learned my lesson a long time ago
[15:12] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:12] <ForgeAus> what lesson?
[15:12] <NthDegree> BluesKaj: encouraging users to copy/paste results in people causing damage
[15:12] <ForgeAus> I'm lost whats !rm-rf-forwardslash?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> not to type
[15:12] <ForgeAus> rofl Blues :)
[15:12] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: "sudo rm -rf /" DO NOT TYPE EVER!
[15:12] <Pici> ....
[15:12] <ForgeAus> oh IC... well I could do that but I wouldn't want to
[15:12] <NthDegree> but that is what will happen if people copy/paste
[15:12] <ForgeAus> it would remove all files under the root directory
[15:13] <BluesKaj> I only type when I need to
[15:13] <NthDegree> and everything in the root directory
[15:13] <ForgeAus> wouldn't my system stop functioning before it got that far?
[15:13] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: probably
[15:13] <Pici> NthDegree: Pleaes don't suggest that, even when joking.
[15:13] <trappist> and since everything is IN the root directory...
[15:13] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  ive found it dident stop :)
[15:13] <ForgeAus> lol DrWillis from personal experience?
[15:13] <NthDegree> Pici: i'm not suggesting it, i'm explaining people suggesting it's a good idea to copy/paste are going to get newbies into trouble
[15:13] <ForgeAus> why would someone do such a thing?
[15:13] <raidu> im getting mad at adept installer :P
[15:14] <ForgeAus> raidu it probably gets mad at users too :)
[15:14] <raidu> too much work :P
[15:14]  * ForgeAus chuckles (of course I was only kidding)
[15:14] <Dr_willis> a simple typo of one SPACE when giveing a full path.. can result in it.
[15:14] <ForgeAus> adept? too much work? uh?
[15:14] <NthDegree> Dr_willis: that's a good point
[15:14] <trappist> ForgeAus: on accident, mostly.  imaging you accidentally say "sudo rm -rf / etc/foobar" with the extra space.  that means recursively remove / and etc/foobar.
[15:15] <ForgeAus> IC
[15:15] <Dr_willis> NthDegree,  and thats howit normally happens. :)
[15:15] <raidu> dont listen to me im talking .... out of my mind because im really really mad
[15:15] <trappist> *imagine
[15:15] <AndreSTC> im having problems using gparted live cd, can any1 help me with that?
[15:15] <ForgeAus> well its always best to use caution when using the rm command anytime anyway
[15:15] <raidu> willis
[15:15] <NthDegree> raidu: try a sudo apt-get clean
[15:15] <ForgeAus> andre its more a gnome thing than kubuntu
[15:15] <ForgeAus> but sure ask...
[15:16] <ForgeAus> (what distro is gparted livecd based on? slackware? ubuntu?)
[15:16] <raidu> nth
[15:16] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: and chcon too, can't count the number of systems i've wrecked by chconning .wine and stuff >.>
[15:16] <trappist> I've had something similar happen using tab completion.  I expected more than one file to match, so I typed part of the filename, hit tab, and added *, but since there was only one such file I ended up with "rm -rf filename *" in my home dir.  that sucked.
[15:16] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  i thohg it was gentoo. their homepage says
[15:16] <raidu> ur my hearo
[15:16] <raidu> hero
[15:16] <ForgeAus> kewl DrWillis
[15:16] <raidu> works :)
[15:16] <NthDegree> i'm your what? OMG
[15:16] <raidu> thanks alot
[15:16] <NthDegree> XD
[15:16] <ForgeAus> I'm right now installing portage into my Interix :)
[15:17] <ForgeAus> whats chcon do?
[15:17] <AndreSTC> ForgeAus its because im trying to boot with my live cd, but i dont know what option i should select when it starts
[15:17] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: SELinux contexts
[15:17] <raidu> it cleaned the bad parts off ? :P
[15:17] <ForgeAus> trappist I don't use tab completion in IRC for that very reason
[15:17] <NthDegree> raidu: it was a stale cache that's all
[15:18] <raidu> now maybe u can tell me how to upgrade with adept?
[15:18] <ForgeAus> I odn't use SELinux either but its ok
[15:18] <trappist> ForgeAus: well you're not going to be rm -rf'ing people :)  and a lot of nicks on irc are a lot harder to type than any file I've named on my system, so I use it copiously on irc.  results in a few inexpensive mistakes.
[15:18] <NthDegree> raidu: well now that is fixed the updater should work
[15:18] <ForgeAus> raidu you can upgrade adept itself by sudo apt-get install adept hehe
[15:18] <NthDegree> raidu: try updating your system
[15:18] <NthDegree> then reboot
[15:18] <NthDegree> then it will prompt and ask if you'd like to upgrade hopefully
[15:19] <NthDegree> that is the normal way
[15:19] <trappist> actually I use it so much I find myself trying to use it to complete long words :/
[15:19] <TimS> Is it possible to reserve the bottom 20 pixels of the screen so that no window covers it?
[15:19] <raidu> talk me trought what i need do to?
[15:19] <ForgeAus> trappist yeah but sometimes people have similar nicknames ...
[15:19] <NthDegree> if that fails then you'll need to change the sources list and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:19] <ForgeAus> like theres at least 3 dra* ones in this very channel
[15:19] <trappist> TimS: in kde you can tell kicker to keep itself from being covered by windows
[15:19] <TimS> Hmm
[15:20] <NthDegree> raidu: update your current system to the latest patches first, then reboot and see if adept prompts and asks you
[15:20] <TimS> I am running a virtualbox with windows and I want to reserv the bottom for the windows start bar.
[15:20] <raidu> the question is where i get the patches im a newbie :P
[15:20] <NthDegree> TimS: *sigh* just put the KDE bar at the top?
[15:20] <ForgeAus> Tims then resize your screen?
[15:20] <NthDegree> raidu: 1 sec
[15:21] <ForgeAus> use a scrollbar!
[15:21] <ForgeAus> or alter your virtual-desktop space?
[15:21] <NthDegree> raidu: kdesudo adept_updater
[15:21] <TimS> My KDE bar is at the top, but I would rather not have windows cover the bottom.
[15:21] <TimS> If its not possible, don't worry
[15:21] <ForgeAus> you can auto-hide windows taskbar
[15:21] <NthDegree> TimS: one easy fix
[15:22] <NthDegree> right click virtualbox bit on window list
[15:22] <NthDegree> Advanced > Keep Above Others
[15:22] <TimS> Ah! Above all others! Thanks alot!
[15:22] <NthDegree> and voila
[15:24] <raidu> nth
[15:24] <NthDegree> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatIsubuntu/releases <- why am I not authorised to access this page? ;O
[15:24] <raidu> how can i run the updater tool?
[15:24] <NthDegree> raidu: kdesudo adept_updater is one way
[15:24] <raidu> when the adept is finished
[15:24] <raidu> yea i know
[15:24] <NthDegree> or sudo adept_updater
[15:24] <raidu> it sed close adept installer and open another
[15:24] <NthDegree> yeps
[15:24] <NthDegree> close adept installer
[15:24] <ForgeAus> sudo isn't recommended for GUI aps
[15:24] <raidu> it downloaded somthing
[15:24] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: I know
[15:24] <NthDegree> but he has no kdesudo
[15:25] <ForgeAus> kdesu and/or kdesudo
[15:25] <raidu> now where could i find it?
[15:25] <ForgeAus> kdesudo is for KDE4 isn't it
[15:25] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: is kdesu piped up to kdesudo?
[15:25] <ForgeAus> KDE3 etc had KDESU
[15:25] <NthDegree> I have 3.5
[15:25] <NthDegree> ah
[15:25] <NthDegree> raidu: try kdesu adept_updater
[15:25] <ForgeAus> I don't think 3.5 has kdesudo
[15:25] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: i'm on 3.5 and have kdesudo
[15:25] <raidu> i have the stuff
[15:25] <kapiton> hi all
[15:25] <NthDegree> on Gutsy Gibbon
[15:25] <ForgeAus> Nth do you also have kde4?
[15:25] <raidu> but i sed to run some other program that i downloaded
[15:26] <raidu> where could i find it?
[15:26] <NthDegree> ForgeAus: Kubuntu Gutsy default install
[15:26]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[15:26] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't know about gutsy
[15:26] <NthDegree> raidu: unless you tell me what that program is?
[15:26] <raidu> wait a moment
[15:26] <NthDegree> you need to remember the details as you go along =]
[15:28] <raidu> distribution upgrade tool
[15:28] <raidu> o it started
[15:28] <raidu> it sef
[15:28] <raidu> self
[15:28] <raidu> i tryed kdesu adept_updater and works like hell fine :P
[15:29] <raidu> thanks alot m8
[15:29] <NthDegree> raidu: when you're upgraded back up your stuff to DVDs or CDs
[15:29] <NthDegree> then when Hardy Heron is out to a clean install
[15:29] <raidu> i allready did
[15:30] <NthDegree> and partition with a separate /home that takes up the majority of your disk
[15:30] <raidu> k
[15:30] <NthDegree> then you can clean install and not lose your stuff.. simply by only reformatting the system partition(s)
[15:30] <raidu> so u recomend me to use partition
[15:30] <NthDegree> I recommend next clean install you make to have a /home aswell as a /
[15:31] <NthDegree> then you can clean install each time without losing your stuff =]
[15:31] <raidu> k
[15:31] <raidu> but how can i unrar or mount isos ?
[15:32] <NthDegree> you want to extract files from an ISO?
[15:32] <raidu> i want to install photoshop cs2
[15:32] <raidu> and use it with wine
[15:33] <raidu> thats why i wanted to start learning linux to get my comp clean and fast
[15:33] <NthDegree> erm...
[15:33] <NthDegree> Photoshop CS2 will be as buggy as hell on Wine
[15:34] <NthDegree> but here's the info on mounting ISOs from my 2nd most favourite source
[15:34] <NthDegree> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files
[15:34] <raidu> so no photoshop on linux?
[15:34] <Pici> !isomount
[15:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isomount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:34] <Pici> 1iso
[15:34] <NthDegree> !iso
[15:34] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:34] <Pici> Bah, i give up.
[15:34] <LjL> !appdb | raidu
[15:34] <ubotu> raidu: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[15:35] <LjL> !equivalents > raidu    (raidu, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:35] <NthDegree> raidu: you can, but it's not easy to set up
[15:35] <NthDegree> raidu: plus Krita, Karbon and The GIMP can easily do what Photoshop does
[15:35] <raidu> im used to photoshop for 5 years not
[15:35] <raidu> now
[15:36] <vlt> Hello. I started a second X server `X :1` and then a remote Session `export DISPLAY=:1; ssh -X user@remotehost startkde`. This works but the font's don't look like on the remote machine. They actually look like crap. What am I missing here?
[15:36] <raidu> so its hard to quit my job and start learning new ones but what the hell it takes time anyway :P
[15:36] <NthDegree> raidu: well it's not an easy ride setting up Photoshop on WINE
[15:37] <LjL> raidu, "gimpshop" is a hack that attempts to imitate Photoshop controls on the GIMP. Pixel32 is a commercial image editor for Linux that mimicks Photoshop to a good extent.
[15:39] <raidu> o
[15:39] <raidu> ill try to work it out then :P
[15:39] <parkin_> !beryl
[15:39] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[15:39] <parkin_> !compiz
[15:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:40] <raidu> but i think i wont have time to design i want to learn linux first:P
[15:40] <raidu> is it right that kubuntu is a linux version as its done by the same guys ?
[15:41] <Dr_willis> kubuntu is ubuntu - gnome + kde
[15:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:41] <LjL> raidu: hm? no, i don't think so
[15:41] <LjL> raidu: same guys as what, as Linux?
[15:41] <raidu> yea
[15:41] <LjL> no
[15:41] <raidu> someone sed that to be
[15:41] <LjL> !linux
[15:41] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[15:41] <raidu> to me
[15:41] <Dr_willis> theres 100's if not 1000's of linux disrtos out.
[15:41] <raidu> k
[15:42] <raidu> is it hard to learn kubuntu fully ?
[15:42] <LjL> raidu: Linux is just a small (though important) part of Kubuntu, and it is developed by different people, although it's maintained by Ubuntu developers specifically for Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[15:42] <raidu> and retheme it and so on so on
[15:42] <SlimeyPete> no harder than any other OS
[15:42] <LjL> raidu: "fully"? yes.
[15:42] <Dr_willis> raidu,  learking the kde or gnome interface is rather simple. Learning the nitty gritty of the Linux OS is a bit harder.. but its very well documented all over.
[15:42] <Dr_willis> http://distrowatch.com/
[15:42] <Dr_willis> Night all
[15:43] <raidu> LjL where could i find new themes for kubuntu=
[15:43] <LjL> !themes
[15:43] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[15:43] <raidu> thanks
[15:45] <desmond> hulp nodig, paneel verdwenen
[15:47] <LjL> !nl | desmond
[15:47] <ubotu> desmond: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[15:48] <desmond> need help, taskbar/panel disapeared
[15:48] <prince_jammys> desmond: try alt f2  and   type "gnome-panel"
[15:49] <raidu> !changethemes
[15:49] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[15:49] <prince_jammys> desmond: sorry type "kicker"
[15:49] <desmond> prince_jammys nothing hapened
[15:49] <prince_jammys> desmond: got my channels mixed up ;)
[15:50] <desmond> in konsole it said it already was running
[15:50] <prince_jammys> desmond: try this::  "killall kicker; kicker"
[15:50] <desmond> it apeared
[15:50] <desmond> and then disapeared
[15:50] <prince_jammys> you got me excited for a moment
[15:51] <desmond> prince_jammys: *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice
[15:51] <prince_jammys> mmm
[15:52] <prince_jammys> this happens every time you log in?
[15:52] <desmond> yes
[15:52] <desmond> started last night
[15:52] <desmond> but didnt reboot then
[15:56] <walmik> hello all
[15:58] <Repsa_Jih> hi.
[15:58] <walmik> i m trying to access 2 windows machines thru samba shares and i get an error 'Timeout on server workgroup'. Just a couple of hours ago everything was working fine... pls hep
[15:58] <walmik> help*
[16:02] <parkin> !compiz
[16:02] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:11] <walmik> hi all... i am trying to play an mp3 in amarok and it seems to be playing(stereo visualizer working & time shuttle moving) but i cannot here a thing. Sorry a noob question
[16:13] <raidu> walmik u have mp3 codecs installed?
[16:13] <raidu> and did you check ur sound settings?
[16:14] <davidrj2k8> Please, help! I has downloaded Kubunto 7.10 for AMD64 (Desktop), but need login :S what's the login?
[16:15] <davidrj2k8> Obs: I'm using as LiveCD
[16:16] <raidu> david when u installed didnt it ask for login?
[16:16] <raidu> o live cd :P
[16:17] <raidu> hmm try user user or smth like that
[16:17] <davidrj2k8> user: user; pass: user?
[16:18] <dan> my graphics card broke. :( Can I emulate it with ram? :P
[16:19] <raidu> yea david try that
[16:19] <raidu> dan
[16:19] <dan> raidu: how do I do?
[16:19] <raidu> its a own ram video card?
[16:19] <dan> yea
[16:19] <dan> I have to run in vesa
[16:19] <davidrj2k8> Okay, I'll try (anyway I back ^^)
[16:19] <raidu> hmm
[16:20] <raidu> i think its not possible but wich card u have ?
[16:20] <raidu> ATI?
[16:20] <raidu> G-Force?
[16:20] <dan> hm
[16:20] <dan> geforcego 7600 laptop
[16:21] <dan> kinda annoying to run in 800x600 :/
[16:21] <raidu> lol
[16:21] <raidu> its not broke
[16:21] <raidu> its software is gone
[16:21] <dan> no.. not really
[16:21] <raidu> if it would be broke then u would not see anything
[16:21] <raidu> i had the same problem with ATI
[16:22] <dan> I don't see anything. that's why I have to run with vesa
[16:22] <raidu> i reinstalled the software and worked
[16:22] <raidu> mmm
[16:22] <raidu> depends how broke it is
[16:22] <dan> even in bois I have purple stuff everywhere
[16:22] <dan> bios
[16:22] <dan> like some characters is purple and stuff
[16:22] <raidu> when the main chipset is broke then theres no way to get it to work with comp ram
[16:22] <raidu> the chipset is broke
[16:22] <dan> and when I start xserver the whole screen is like disorted :/
[16:23] <dan> but in vesa it's ok :P
[16:23] <dan> aah
[16:23] <raidu> hmm
[16:23] <dan> but can I emulate a graphics card with my ram?
[16:23] <dan> until I have this sucker repaired
[16:23] <raidu> if the main chipset is broke then theres no way
[16:23] <dan> damn :(
[16:24] <dan> thanks anyway then :)
[16:24] <raidu> but if its not then its possible but i really dont know because i fixed my old car my self
[16:24] <raidu> card
[16:24] <dan> ah
[16:24] <raidu> i fixed it my self
[16:25] <radsouthern> hi
[16:25] <raidu> hi
[16:25] <dan> ah. but I think it may be chipset then, since it's disorted from when i start the comp
[16:25] <dan> well cya :)
[16:25] <dan> thx
[16:25] <raidu> np cya
[16:27] <francesco_> ciao a tutti
[16:29] <davidrj2k8> T_T Don't work "user user" T_T
[16:29] <davidrj2k8> raidu: the user/user don't work T_T
[16:30] <raidu> hmm
[16:30] <davidrj2k8> smth too
[16:30] <raidu> hmm mine didnt ask any user names
[16:30] <raidu> did u try nothing :P
[16:30] <raidu> like empty
[16:31] <davidrj2k8> I have tried root, user, kubuntu, ubuntu, ... (combined in password all elements) and nothing
[16:31] <davidrj2k8> I tried too
[16:31] <davidrj2k8> de hash (MD5) is Correct too
[16:32] <davidrj2k8> I don't have idea of the error
[16:32] <vikku> how do i open the terminal window
[16:32] <rocme> hi@all
[16:32] <raidu> vikku
[16:33] <raidu> go to k-menu
[16:33] <raidu> system
[16:33] <raidu> and consol
[16:33] <raidu> thats the terminal
[16:33] <parkin> !compiz
[16:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:34] <raidu> david
[16:34] <vikku> raidu : there is no option of console there
[16:34] <raidu> wait a minute
[16:34] <llutz> vikku: alt-f2: konsole
[16:34] <raidu> yea thats what i wanted to write :P
[16:34] <raidu> u got it first
[16:35] <davidrj2k8> okay
[16:35] <raidu> david
[16:35] <rocme> vikku: did you really find an irc client but now console?
[16:35] <davidrj2k8> I'm where
[16:35] <vikku> honestly, yes lmao
[16:35] <raidu> root didnt work?
[16:35] <davidrj2k8> no
[16:36] <raidu> u didnt get any username or password with livecd?
[16:36] <raidu> or u downloaded it ?
[16:36] <davidrj2k8> root/root, root/kubuntu, root/toor, kubuntu/kubuntu, kubuntu/root, ...
[16:36] <davidrj2k8> I has downloaded
[16:36] <vikku> alt f2 allows running me only one command, executes the command and sys finished (doesnt return prompt))
[16:36] <raidu> try fully empty if that doesnt work then i dont know
[16:36] <vikku> i downloaded it too
[16:36] <davidrj2k8> http://mirror.pop-sc.rnp.br/mirror/ubuntu/kubuntu/gutsy/ ==> http://mirror.pop-sc.rnp.br/mirror/ubuntu/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:37] <raidu> ill check it
[16:37] <llutz> vikku: press alt-f2 enter there " konsole " and you'll get a shell/console
[16:37] <vikku> ah ok lemme try
[16:37] <davidrj2k8> I tried full empty too
[16:37] <raidu> wtf :S
[16:38] <vikku> llutz: gotcha thnks
[16:38] <davidrj2k8> In the qtemu (win-qemu), worked, but, on burn CD don't work (I want use in Virtual, but Qemu is too slow, in the next time I download de version 32b)
[16:38] <coggz> hi, how do i get my wireless to auto connect using knetworkmanager?
[16:39] <raidu> hmm
[16:39] <raidu> david i dont have no idea what the password would be then. i got shiped cd so i dont know
[16:39] <raidu> and even then i didnt have a password
[16:41] <davidrj2k8> T_T
[16:41] <davidrj2k8> I will try download the 32b version
[16:42] <davidrj2k8> A question... What's the difference of "Alternate" and "Desktop"? o.O
[16:43] <coggz> desktop is a live cd, but alternate isn't, it can run on older machines
[16:43] <coggz> less ram, graphics...
[16:43] <jussi01> Anyone remember the name of the randr tray app?
[16:43] <coggz> xrandr
[16:43] <jussi01> coggz: no, thea tray app for kde
[16:44] <coggz> jussi01: oh, right
[16:45] <coggz> jussi01: i used to use it a lot, but i can't remember what it is called now...
[16:45] <llutz> jussi01: krandrtray
[16:45] <davidrj2k8> óh... thanx
[16:45] <coggz> jussi01: aha
[16:45] <jussi01> llutz: ah yes thats it.
[16:46] <coggz> Does anyone know how to make knetworkmanager auto connect wireless
[16:46] <jussi01> llutz: it doesnt seem to be in the repos. was there a particularly good place to get it?
[16:46] <jussi01> (or should google sufice ;D)
[16:46] <llutz> dpkg -S krandrtray
[16:46] <llutz> it's in kcontrol
[16:47] <coggz> jussi01: it came with my kubuntu install
[16:47] <jussi01> aye... /me headdesks
[16:49] <coggz> anyone??
[16:51] <coggz> nosrednaekim: hi
[16:52] <nosrednaekim> hey coggz
[16:54] <coggz> nosrednaekim: hows things,
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[16:55] <coggz> nosrednaekim: good. How do you get wireless to autoconnect in knetworkmanager?
[16:55] <laboratorio> saludos!!
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> coggz » I think you have to make the network trusted
[16:55] <coggz> hola senor!!
[16:55] <coggz> nosrednaekim: aha, thanks
[16:56] <coggz> nosrednaekim: it is already trusted.
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> coggz » is it encrypted?
[16:57] <coggz> nosrednaekim: yes, wpa personal
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> then I think you need to enter a password every boot.
[16:58] <parkin> !compiz
[16:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:58] <coggz> nosrednaekim: but if i right click, then choose my network, it connects no passwords asked
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> huh...
[17:00] <coggz> !knetworkmanager
[17:00] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[17:00] <coggz> !wireless
[17:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:06] <cloakable> I've installed Kubuntu 7.04 on a laptop, and knetworkmanager isn't associating to my wireless network. Using the manual tools works, though. Chipset is the raling rt2500
[17:06] <cloakable> *ralink
[17:06] <cloakable> Any advice?
[17:06] <R{Away}> !wireless
[17:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:06] <R{Away}> !knetworkmanager
[17:06] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[17:07] <R{Away}> read those
[17:07] <R{Away}> maybe u get help
[17:07] <cloakable> It doesn't even start configuring
[17:08] <coggz> cloakable: ah, what laptop is it, does it see the network?
[17:08] <tzd> can anyone help me set up automatic downloads via rss in Ktorrent please? Can't find any beginners guide, howto's etc. on how to do this :/
[17:09] <coggz> why in ktorrent?
[17:09] <coggz> oh, gotcha
[17:10] <cloakable> coggz: Evesham, not sure what model, networkmanager sees the network, using iwconfig, etc I can join it.
[17:10] <tzd> coggz: well i'm using uTorrent atm, but i want to get rid of this last windows program and be able to format my NTFS drive that i'm currently using for downloads in uTorrent
[17:10] <coggz> cloakable: hmm, ok, thought it could be a different issue
[17:11] <coggz> tzd: i see, i will just have a look. What is the rss fed?
[17:11] <cloakable> coggz: Ahh
[17:13] <tzd> coggz: http://www.tvrss.net/feed/vtv/  I've managed to get the feed up and working in kTorrent. It displays the feed material but I can't get the filters working at all
[17:13] <coggz> tzd: Ok, what you need to do is this: open up Ktorrent, then under settings>configure ktorrent >PLugins>find Rss Feeds plugin and click 'load'
[17:13] <tzd> coggz: it's loaded :)
[17:13] <coggz> oh
[17:13] <ForgeAus> I have no idea why I would want to but could I get an additional kernel with my kubuntu? say a freeBSD one?
[17:14] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus » that would not be Kubuntu
[17:14] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu on an LG laptop, model LE50, radeon xpress200 chipset.. When I boot the laptop, I do not see the kubuntu startup screen with the kubuntu logo, instead the screen stays blank until the login screen.. Also, booting takes some 1 minute 45 seconds, which seems very much.. Anybody has an idea how I can fix and improve this?
[17:14] <ForgeAus> kubuntu boots from the linux kernel right?... but can I have multiple kernel choices? with the same userland?
[17:15] <coggz> phoenixz: One of my friends has that same problem, takes 5mins to boot.
[17:15] <ForgeAus> phoenix if you can run your video in some kinda VESA compatibility mode maybe...
[17:16] <tzd> coggz:  do you have rss downloads enabled in kTorrent? If you do then a printscreen of the filter tab would probably help me a lot :)
[17:16] <ForgeAus> or better ATI drivers?... I don't really know
[17:16] <phoenixz> ForgeAus> Im using the official ATI drivers.. no difference...
[17:16] <coggz> tzd: ok, one mo
[17:17] <phoenixz> coggz> Could he fix it?
[17:17] <coggz> phoenixz: not yet,
[17:17] <ForgeAus> I don't think the video drivers are loaded when the when it comes to the bootsplash screen
[17:17] <ForgeAus> phoenix, get the ones from adept, much better
[17:17] <ForgeAus> fglxr
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus » you couldhave differnt linux kernels.... or you could share your /home with a BSD install
[17:17] <ForgeAus> !ati
[17:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:17] <phoenixz> coggz> I just installed this laptop for somebody else, because they wanted to try something different than windows.. like this, they will go back to windows the same day.. :(
[17:18] <phoenixz> ForgeAus> are you talking about the open source driver or the closed source driver?
[17:18] <coggz> tzd: ok, on the tabs at the top, click RSS Feeds, then click New down the bottom, pase in your URL, then clcik refresh!
[17:18] <ForgeAus> phoenixz either way
[17:18] <coggz> phoenixz: same, he just came from windows, but ha gone back for now
[17:19] <unagi_> !dialup
[17:19] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[17:19] <tzd> coggz: ok done :)
[17:19] <AndyCR> Hi, when I suspend and resume the wifi connection doesn't resume automatically, but rather I have to right-click the wifi applet and choose the network again
[17:19] <coggz> tzd: thanks for that link, that looks awesome
[17:19] <AndyCR> Is there a way to make it automatically reconnect, as in Ubuntu?
[17:19] <tzd> coggz: hehe it is, works like a charm for my uTorrent :)
[17:19] <phoenixz> ForgeAus> I just installed the restricted (closed source) ATI driver already.. no results
[17:20] <coggz> AndyCR: I have the same problem, but i think it needs to use kwallet, but im not sure
[17:20] <coggz> brb
[17:20] <AndyCR> Ah, I had KWallet disabled because it annoyed me, I'll try enabling it
[17:20] <AndyCR> Thanks
[17:21] <unagi_> !compile
[17:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[17:25] <_Shade_> i'm looking for some documentation about configuration of the /etc/postfix/aliases file
[17:27] <coggz> hi again
[17:29] <tzd> coggz: how's it going? Does it work for you with the feed?
[17:31] <phoenixz> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[17:31] <coggz> tzd: yes, fine
[17:31] <coggz> i thought you said it was sorted?
[17:32] <rickest> how do you disable the splash screen when shutting down? I like to see the services shut down
[17:33] <coggz> rickest: im not sure, but on mandriva, pressing 'Esc' made it display. esc doesn't work in kubuntu, but i wonder if there is a key?
[17:33] <tzd> coggz: oh no, i got the feed working but i cant get the filter working at all. For instance: i want to auto download season 1 of a tv serie. I just don't know what to do in the filter setting tab.
[17:33] <rickest> coggz: I was thinking a config option somewhere. I turned off the startup splash via grub but I don't know about shutting down
[17:37] <coggz> tzd: hmm, i can't work it out, but i will check out google for a solution
[17:38] <tzd> coggz: i had a look over there as well but i was unable to find anything. If you do find something then please let me know :)
[17:39] <snowdonkey> Hi.  Does anyone here us ChessDB?
[17:44] <victoryemulator> hi can anyone tell me how can i install older kde icons like the icons of kde 1.x or kde 2.x on kubuntu
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> victoryemulator » they probably are not compatible.
[17:45] <Wasserstoff> actually they might be..
[17:45] <Wasserstoff> just missing some
[17:45] <victoryemulator> only the icons, nothing else.  is there a theme or something, coz i saw that in sabayon
[17:46] <Wasserstoff> sabayon uses kde2??
[17:46] <Wasserstoff> wow
[17:46] <Wasserstoff> they are more horrible than I remembered
[17:46] <victoryemulator> no
[17:46] <Oloughlin75> Trying to configure alsa and im getting this error: configure: error: cannot find sources (acore/sound.patch) in . or ..
[17:46] <victoryemulator> they use 3.5.something they have this option in display settings
[17:46] <victoryemulator> or somewhere
[17:49] <Oloughlin75> !alsa
[17:49] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » wasn;t it working before?
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> (compileing it that is)
[17:49] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: i reinstalled windows and kubuntu
[17:50] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: but yeah... i got the error last time but just restarted and it worked, now that didnt work
[17:50] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: how do i start the asound module?
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » seems like the tar archive isn't complete.
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> kernel module?
[17:51] <Oloughlin75> yes
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » there is no "asound" module I don;t think... HAL detets your hardware and loads the correct sound module accordingly
[17:52] <Oloughlin75> ok
[17:53] <Oloughlin75> im download alsa again
[17:53] <Oloughlin75> downlpading
[17:53] <Oloughlin75> downloading*
[17:53] <martijn81> kubuntu.org down?
[17:53] <stdin> nope
[17:54] <BluesKaj> Oloughlin75, you could try this and download a fix script for alsa here : http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh , then run this command in the konsole to fix it : ./alsa-info.sh
[17:55] <Oloughlin75> whats the script do?
[17:56] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: ya... must not have copied completely from my flash drive :/
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[17:56] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: i got anothe rproblem though :)
[17:57] <Oloughlin75> exiting dolphin i get: Unable to save bookmarks.... permision denied..
[17:57] <coggz> Oloughlin75: i had that before.
[17:57] <Oloughlin75> change permisions on the file?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> Oloughlin75, it helps you fix you alsa settings
[17:57] <BluesKaj> your
[17:58] <Oloughlin75> BluesKaj: but whats it actually do? lol
[17:58] <FaiDillinGer> man i just want to say that i love linux
[17:58] <coggz> Oloughlin75: open /home/user/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/
[17:58] <coggz> as root :)
[17:58] <Oloughlin75> coggz: and adjust permisions?
[17:59] <coggz> Oloughlin75: then rename root owned one to like bookmarks_bak.xml
[17:59] <BluesKaj> it's a diagnostics , Oloughlin75
[17:59] <coggz> Oloughlin75: create new file, then open and close dolphin
[18:00] <ercan__> Hi, can anyone tell me what I need to have installed to get m4a to play on amarok? Thanks
[18:00] <Oloughlin75> coggz: yep, thanks :)
[18:00] <coggz> Oloughlin75: I have no idea why it happens, it has happened to me twice now, and it is just random...
[18:01] <Oloughlin75> coggz: i used kdesu dolphin earlier :/
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> coggz » or you can just remove bookmarks.xml
[18:04] <coggz> Oloughlin75: aha, yes, that makes sense now,
[18:08] <rickest> FaiDillinGer: glad to hear it, it's a great OS
[18:12] <Oloughlin75> hmm, i always download ~200-400KB faster in linux
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> KB/s?
[18:13] <Oloughlin75> yeah
[18:13] <_Shade_> hi there
[18:14] <Oloughlin75> hey _Shade_
[18:15] <_Shade_> i'm looking for some open source web application for task management (like flyspray) - helpdesk solutions
[18:15] <_Shade_> are there any?
[18:18] <jussi01> _Shade_: any reeason you are not considering flyspray?
[18:18] <jussi01> !info flyspray
[18:18] <ubotu> flyspray (source: flyspray): lightweight Bug Tracking System (BTS) in PHP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.8-13 (gutsy), package size 368 kB, installed size 2176 kB
[18:19] <jussi01> _Shade_: its in the repos ^^
[18:20] <GRay> somebody may help me?
[18:21] <Oloughlin75> GRay: with what? :)
[18:21] <GRay> Oloughlin75 after resize my /dev/hdb1 portition mounted in / my linux system is down ((((
[18:22] <Oloughlin75> i dont know enough to help ya, sorry
[18:22] <GRay> ((((
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> GRay » you resized the root partition?
[18:23] <GRay> yes
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> GRay » using what tool
[18:23] <rickest> GRay: define 'system is down'. won't start at all, grub error, etc
[18:23] <GRay> nosrednaekim gparted
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> GRay » from a libeCD?
[18:24] <ScorpKing> the UUID most likely changed
[18:24] <GRay> rickest grub is normal... kubuntu writen system boot and nofing no boot
[18:24] <GRay> nosrednaekimyes
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> GRay » check if all the files are still there.....
[18:25] <GRay> nosrednaekim how?
[18:26] <GRay> nosrednaekim i'm now booting from life CD
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> GRay » boot the liveCD and look at the partition.... either its all gone or its all there I would think
[18:27] <emilsedgh> !mp3 > Tavakkoli
[18:27] <GRay> nosrednaekim my must mount theirs?
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> GRay » what?
[18:28] <GRay> nosrednaekim mount /dev/hda1 / ???
[18:28] <Oloughlin75> Is there a way to adjust how much the volume chanes with the fn volume up and down buttons?
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> GRay » "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt"
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » I don't think so.
[18:31] <ScorpKing> GRay: you getting grub error 17?
[18:31] <GRay> nosrednaekim my filesystem is normal
[18:31] <GRay> ScorpKing grub is normal
[18:32] <nosrednaekim> GRay » any errors on boot then?
[18:32] <ScorpKing> GRay: if everything is normal then what is the problem?
[18:32] <GRay> nosrednaekim no... don't boot
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> any errors AT ALL?
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> turn off quiet and splash t grub
[18:33] <GRay> ScorpKing in my display writen system boot and nothing bootin
[18:33] <ScorpKing> maybe usplash stop errors from showing
[18:34] <ScorpKing> GRay: pres <ESC> at boot and select the second option (recovery mode i think) in grub
[18:34] <ScorpKing> press*
[18:34] <BluesKaj> Oloughlin75, the volume buttons on gutsy are pretty coarse on most KBs I'm afraid , the best one can do is 11% steps up or down...that's my experience too.
[18:35] <Oloughlin75> BluesKaj: mine are 13% :/
[18:35] <Oloughlin75> or 12 or 14 :/
[18:35] <GRay> ScorpKing ok. now do it. thanks!
[18:36] <ScorpKing> GRay: now you can see the error and share it with us so someone can help you
[18:36] <BluesKaj> Oloughlin75, i guess I should be thankful :)
[18:40] <ScorpKing> when i switch off my laptop it just exits kde and then hang. pressing any keys and even ctrl+alt+del doesn't do nothing. any ideas?
[18:43] <ScorpKing> ah. ctrl+alt did something not. it has some error about wlan0 but it's stuck in a loop. the text is scrolling to fast to read. is there a way i can pause it to see whats going on?
[18:43] <ScorpKing> noW*
[18:43] <ScorpKing> heh
[18:46] <japp> Buenas tardes
[18:47] <japp> Gracias alos que me ayudaron ayer a buscar información de cómousar una cámara web en Kubuntu
[18:48] <japp> y ahora necesitaria ¿dónde encontrar un manual para torpes y aprender esa cosa mágica denominada Konsola
[18:48] <ScorpKing> japp: language?
[18:49] <japp> ¿qué es eso de language?
[18:49] <ScorpKing> !gr
[18:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[18:50] <ScorpKing> !es
[18:50] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:51] <japp> I'm sorry
[18:51] <jetsaredim> is there going to be a new network-manager-kde package?
[18:52] <ScorpKing> i hope so
[18:53] <GRay> i select in grub "recovery boot" in my display writen "starting up...." and nothing bootin
[18:54] <matisse> Hi, is it possible to use ssh for http-proxy ? someone told me I had to use the -D option, but it doesnt work
[18:54] <nosrednaekim> GRay » thats really weird
[18:55] <GRay> nosrednaekim i'm know?
[18:56] <GRay> тут кто нить по русски говорит кто в линухах шарит?? )))
[18:56] <Oloughlin75> !ru | GRay
[18:56] <ubotu> GRay: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:56] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu on an LG LE50 laptop.. The wireless works out of the box but every now and then it suddenly shuts off, and then I can't connect anymore.. the access point still shows but when I try to connect, it asks for password, and then waits for the longest time.. and then again asks me for the password
[18:57] <phoenixz> only fix so far is a reboot, but come on! this is Linux, reboots should not be needed! Is there a better way to fix this?
[18:57] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz » try "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[18:58] <phoenixz> The wireless card is an RaLink RT2500 802.11g cardbus/mini-PCI
[18:58] <Oloughlin75> its going to take me forever to set up windows :(
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » what do you use windows for?
[18:59] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: i use office and zune :/
[18:59] <Oloughlin75> zune i need to use
[18:59] <Oloughlin75> office is nice because it does refrencing, which i dont think open office does
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> hum, you might have been able to get by with virtualbox
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> referencing? you mean like bibliographies?
[19:00] <raidu> hey guys :)
[19:00] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: yeah, it it keeps track of everything
[19:00] <Oloughlin75> all your sources
[19:00] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim> did the dbus reset, which just killed the wifui all together.. the wifi is on, it shows in knetwork manager as that its there but it doesn't even show the wifi part in the menu anymore..
[19:00] <Oloughlin75> but meh
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. you can do that with open office
[19:00] <Oloughlin75> really>? :D
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz » hrm... interesting
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » yeah I saw it once while messing around
[19:00] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim> how can I reload the driver?
[19:01] <phoenixz> rmmod / modprobe..
[19:01] <phoenixz> but, how do I know which module is the driver?
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz » lshw will tell you
[19:01] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: bibliography database.... wooah
[19:03] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim> thanks..
[19:04] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim> mmm, reloaded the module, now knetworkmanager again shows the wifi part in the menu, but the wifi light on the laptop is off..
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz » is there a wifi switch?
[19:04] <phoenixz> oh crap, reboot..
[19:04] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim> dunno, but if there is, I haven't touched it
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> well, see if there is.
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> ok... I have to go... later guys.
[19:05] <_Shade_> jussi01: i would like to check some more than just flyspray
[19:05] <_Shade_> does hardy comes with qt4.4? can i install it's package somehow?
[19:08] <ercan__> Hi, can anyone tell me what I need to have installed to get m4a to play on amarok? Thanks
[19:08] <emilsedgh> _Shade_: there are Qt 4.4 packages in personal repository of Rid-dell for hardy
[19:09] <_Shade_> emilsedgh: any url?
[19:09] <emilsedgh> _Shade_: its on launchpad, cant remember :(
[19:14] <RangdeBasanti>  i have 'xlockmore' to lock screen. how can i run it as system admin on all accounts at start up.(boot time)
[19:21] <hoens`rZ> where can i get libglew1.5?
[19:22] <hoens`rZ> getting libglew-dev only got 1.3
[19:22] <parkin> !compiz|parkin
[19:22] <Oloughlin75> !compiz | parkin
[19:22] <ubotu> parkin: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:23] <matisse> Hi, is it possible to use ssh for http-proxy ? someone told me I had to use the -D option, but I'm not able to get it working
[19:24]  * RangdeBasanti got disconnected. now back
[19:27] <NthDegree> matisse: you can use SSH as a tunnel
[19:29] <NthDegree> !sshtunnel
[19:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshtunnel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:32] <hoens`rZ> i'm trying to install libboost-filesystem-dev, but i get the following error: libboost-filesystem-dev: Depends: libboost-dev (= 1.33.1-9ubuntu3.1) but 1.34.1-4ubuntu1 is to be installed
[19:32] <hoens`rZ> it also says taht i don't have libboost-dev installed
[19:32] <hoens`rZ> any idea on a fix?
[19:32] <NthDegree> matisse: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/ssh-tunnel.html  <- i'm not sure if this will help or not, but if you control the SSH server then you can easily set up a proxy using netcat and tunneling
[19:33] <NthDegree> hoens`rZ: get hold of that libboost package
[19:33] <hoens`rZ> NthDegree: ?
[19:33] <matisse> NthDegree: i will read it, got also a link from another channel. Thanks for the moment
[19:36] <NthDegree> hoens`rZ: it wants libboost-dev 1.33.1-9ubuntu3.1 so until a version of libboost-filesystem-dev is available for the newer version of libboost-dev (1.34.1-4ubuntu1) you need to install the older libboost-dev
[19:37] <hoens`rZ> NthDegree: i don't have any libboost-dev installed
[19:37] <hoens`rZ> why doesn't it just install the old one for me
[19:37] <NthDegree> hoens`rZ: because it is meant to install that latest for all the fixes and enhancements
[19:37] <hoens`rZ> how ridiculous
[19:37] <NthDegree> not really
[19:38] <hoens`rZ> ...
[19:38] <hoens`rZ> it's not riciculous that it won't install a package that i want because it tries to install another package that the one i want doesn't depend upon?
[19:38] <hoens`rZ> how is that not ridiculous
[19:38] <NthDegree> you simply install the older version yourself
[19:39] <hoens`rZ> "simple" would be it doing it for me and not making me jump through hoops :/
[19:39] <NthDegree> it's the maintainers of libboost-filesystem-dev that are to blame methinks :P
[19:41] <hoens`rZ> don't know what to get from libboost now
[19:41] <hoens`rZ> or where to get it rather
[19:41] <Oloughlin75> !info lobboost
[19:41] <ubotu> Package lobboost does not exist in gutsy
[19:41] <Enissay> when i shutdown my pc, i just get a black screen and it never shuts down, i have every time to do it manually... is there any way to fix this?
[19:42] <Oloughlin75> !info libboost
[19:42] <ubotu> Package libboost does not exist in gutsy
[19:43] <wucherkater> hi
[19:43] <wucherkater> someone here?
[19:43] <hoens`rZ> ubotu: ?
[19:43] <vlt> Hello. I have two nearly identical Kubuntu installations. Can I just copy my complete home dir from one to the other machine and continue working there as if I was on the first one?
[19:44] <SlimeyPete> yes, probably.
[19:44] <SlimeyPete> if they're close to identical.
[19:44] <vlt> Enissay: This is done by acpi, I think.
[19:44] <vlt> SlimeyPete: Both 32bit Dapper w/ current updates.
[19:45] <SlimeyPete> likely to work then
[19:45] <bandit710> bonjour
[19:45] <vlt> SlimeyPete: Perfect. Thank you.
[19:47] <vlt> And I should be able to do an rsync everytime just before changing back to the first one, right?
[19:47] <wucherkater> hello i have a problem
[19:47] <wucherkater> ^
[19:48] <vlt> !ask | wucherkater
[19:48] <ubotu> wucherkater: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:48] <wucherkater> i installed kubuntu and apt get issnt working since i updated it
[19:48] <tzd> can someone please help me setting up a working rss feed autodownload in kTorrent please? Got the feed working but the filter bit won't work :/
[19:48] <wucherkater> vlt sorry i am not the fastest
[19:49] <wucherkater> it say another process is using it how do i fix it
[19:51] <vlt> There's a lock file somewhere from a previous apt process. I'm sure there's a wiki entry on how to unlock it.
[19:52] <wucherkater> vlt i am a linux noob
[19:52] <tzd> wucherkater: just a guess... you don't have the "adept program" running in the background?
[19:53] <Oloughlin75> whos got a lock?
[19:53] <wucherkater> i installed it yesterday then tried to update it it gets an error and now it wont start adept manager  and when i try it it says another process is using it would u thry to fix it click yes and when i click yes i get an error   http://nopaste.php-quake.net/17485
[19:53] <Oloughlin75> !adeptfix | wucherkater
[19:54] <ubotu> wucherkater: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:54] <Oloughlin75> type that into  terminal wucherkater, and itll fix it
[19:54] <wucherkater> ok
[19:54] <Enissay> vlt: how to fix this?
[19:55] <Oloughlin75> Enissay: what are you trying to fix?
[19:56] <wucherkater> Olouhlin75 now it ask me something ^^
[19:56] <vlt> acpi doesn't turn off his pc
[19:56] <wucherkater> should i say yes?
[19:56] <Oloughlin75> wucherkater: yep
[19:57] <wucherkater> oloughlin where u from?
[19:58] <Oloughlin75> US
[19:58] <wucherkater> ok
[19:58] <Oloughlin75> wucherkater: did it work?
[19:58] <wucherkater> i think so
[19:59] <tzd> Oloughlin75: you seem to the kubuntu king ;) You don't happen to have some hidden skills within kTorrent?
[19:59] <wucherkater> i can make all updates that kubuntu tell me?
[19:59] <Oloughlin75> tzd: ive been "using" for almost two weeks ;)
[19:59] <Oloughlin75> tzd: whats the problem though?
[19:59] <tzd> Oloughlin75: two weeks use of kTorrent or Kubuntu?
[20:00] <Oloughlin75> kubuntu
[20:00] <orlandoj> which program can i use to run .ra files ?
[20:00] <wucherkater> Oloughlin75 can u tell me how to get java in konqueror to use java chats?
[20:00] <Oloughlin75> !java
[20:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:00] <tzd> Oloughlin75: oh... Well perhaps you might know how to help me. I can't get the filter in rss autodownload to work
[20:01] <Oloughlin75> wucherkater: run "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[20:01] <NthDegree> !restricted
[20:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:01] <wucherkater> good ill try
[20:01] <Oloughlin75> tzd: cant help you there :/
[20:01] <tzd> Oloughlin75: ah alright, worth a shot :) Thanks though
[20:03] <Seren__> hi
[20:04] <wucherkater> how to klick ok in konsole?
[20:04] <Seren__> I am trying to remove the "store password" pop up under konqueror
[20:04] <Seren__> I already uninstalled kwallet
[20:04] <Seren__> anyone knows where the optin is
[20:04] <Seren__> wucherkater> Tab to select, enter to confirm
[20:05] <wucherkater> thanks
[20:05] <wucherkater> ^
[20:05] <wucherkater> ^^
[20:05] <Oloughlin75> lol
[20:05] <wucherkater> i installed java now
[20:06] <wucherkater> but konqueror say no i dont have java
[20:06] <Seren__> wucherkater: try restarting konqueror
[20:07] <wucherkater> no dont work
[20:07] <Oloughlin75> wucherkater: click settings -> configure konquerer-> plugins -> click the scan for plugins button
[20:08] <Oloughlin75> wucherkater: otherwise, im not sure if java will work with konquerer
[20:08] <onlinelli> Hi
[20:09] <wucherkater> and what do i need to do than?
[20:09] <wucherkater> it dont work
[20:09] <wucherkater> ^
[20:09] <Seren__> in tools / html settings
[20:09] <Seren__> there is an option to enable/disable java
[20:09] <Seren__> amongst other things
[20:09] <Seren__> by default it is disabled
[20:09] <Seren__> try to enable it
[20:10] <wucherkater> seren java & javascript
[20:10] <onlinelli> Is anyone running kde4 right now?
[20:11] <wucherkater> java aktivate global is on at my place
[20:11] <Seren__> ok
[20:11] <Seren__> no idea then
[20:11] <wucherkater> can i install firefox here?
[20:11] <[-plAzZzZA-]> Hi people
[20:11] <Seren__> sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:12] <[-plAzZzZA-]> I have a problem in Kubuntu with video driwer, who can help me? My video card: VIA Unicrom Pro IGP
[20:14] <[-plAzZzZA-]> help me :))
[20:14] <onlinelli> so please describe your problem
[20:17] <[-plAzZzZA-]> look my notebook Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Pro V2030, I have Kubuntu Linux 7.10, and I have a problem whith video drivir, my video card : VIA Unicrom Pro IGP integrated video card 64 Mb
[20:17] <wucherkater> i installed firefox and how do i say him use jave?
[20:17] <wucherkater> java
[20:17] <Seren__> did you try ? I think it works by default
[20:18] <wucherkater> seren i tryied
[20:18] <martijn81> wucherkater: just install java and it will find it automaticaly
[20:18] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli: can you help me ?
[20:18] <wucherkater> i need version 6 update 3
[20:19] <wucherkater> maybe i installed then the wrong one
[20:20] <onlinelli> I do not know now as I never stumbled upon that card, maybe, there are some howto's out there..
[20:20] <onlinelli> you do not get it installed?
[20:20] <Seren__> wucherkater:  this is the version installed in (k)ubuntu
[20:20] <Seren__> but I don't remember having done anything special to get it working
[20:20] <Oloughlin75> !info latex2e
[20:21] <wucherkater> what is a rpm
[20:21] <ubotu> Package latex2e does not exist in gutsy
[20:21] <Oloughlin75> wucherkater: they aren't supported in kubuntu, but they are like .deb, or install files
[20:21] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli: no I don't , because I haven't drivers and I don't know how to make install with command "make install"
[20:21] <wucherkater> 	Linux RPM (selbstextrahierende Datei)  Dateigröße: 17.74 MB  so dont use this
[20:22] <dZen|n|> I have a logitech g15 keybord, is there any guide on net that I can use to make it work on my kubuntu gutsy
[20:22] <onlinelli> so you found a howto, but do not know how exactly apply this one?
[20:22] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli:  that's right
[20:22] <onlinelli> you need to install the build-essential package first
[20:23] <onlinelli> could you paste the url of the howto please?
[20:24] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli: and then my xorg.conf didn't run...
[20:24] <wucherkater> http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting  can i use this java?
[20:27] <onlinelli> @ piazza xserver-xorg-video-openchrome did you install that package
[20:29] <onlinelli> ?
[20:29] <ubuntu> hey
[20:29] <ubuntu> someone speaks french ? :(
[20:29] <SlimeyPete> !fr
[20:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:29] <jpatrick> !fr | ubuntu
[20:29] <SQLDarkly> Where can I find documentation on locking down kubutnu. I have an office of 75 I am moving from winblows to Kubuntu but i need to restrict what the user can and cannot do.
[20:29] <ubotu> ubuntu: please see above
[20:29] <walmik> hi all
[20:30] <jpatrick> SQLDarkly: they can only do stuff to their /home
[20:30] <wucherkater> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre will i die when i try this?
[20:30] <walmik> i m having a little troubl with eclipse on kubuntu...
[20:30] <walmik> Eclipse crashes with "JVM terminated. Exit Code=1
[20:30] <walmik> please help
[20:30] <onlinelli> I try to.....
[20:30] <ubuntu> yes but no one speaks in kubuntu french channel :/
[20:30] <SlimeyPete> wucherkater: no, that should work.
[20:30] <onlinelli> which howto did you use
[20:31] <SQLDarkly> I am more concerned with removal of games and to prevent any changes to the system at all. I want them to be working and only working not playing with wallpaper and crap. I use to use windows steadystate for this purpose
[20:31] <ubuntu> salut
[20:31] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli: yes, i did, but i demention 640:480, and I have some troubles...
[20:31] <SlimeyPete> !java
[20:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:31] <walmik> SlimeyPete: Hi, i have done all that and i am upto java6 now
[20:32] <walmik> SlimeyPete: It has got something to do with 64bit
[20:32] <SQLDarkly> Anyone have an idea where I can find such documentation?
[20:32] <onlinelli> @ <[-plAzZzZA-]> so you installed the xserver-xorg-video-openchrome from universe and you did not chance your xorg.con?
[20:33] <onlinelli> @ <[-plAzZzZA-]> according to some wiki you shoud change Driver "openchrome"  to Driver "via"
[20:34] <dZen|n|> I have a logitech g15 keybord, is there any guide on net that I can use to make it work on my kubuntu gutsy
[20:34] <onlinelli> in your xorg.conf
[20:34] <wucherkater> http://nopaste.php-quake.net/17492  i dont undestand what to do...
[20:35] <SQLDarkly> I am almost looking to do a KIOSK mode however I want only BASIC functionality.
[20:36] <matisse> NthDegree: works with   http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[20:36] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli: yes, I installed open crome, but it view my driver as vese but not via :(
[20:36] <matisse> NthDegree:  but for some reason it took some time before it "started" working
[20:36] <SQLDarkly> Kubuntu doc does not have what I need as far restricting users network wide as in a windows policy
[20:37] <onlinelli> @<[-plAzZzZA-]> could you send your xorg.conf? Here:  http://nopaste.php-quake.net/
[20:37] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli:  my xorg shows vesa driwer :(
[20:37] <onlinelli> so change it
[20:38] <wucherkater> i think i can do it now ^^
[20:38] <onlinelli> sudo /kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:38] <wucherkater> thanks for all ya help ^
[20:38] <onlinelli> but make a backup first
[20:38] <walmik> onlinelli: hi, can u pls help me
[20:38] <[-plAzZzZA-]> onlinelli: could we discuss it tomorrow?
[20:38] <wucherkater> waaahhh
[20:39] <walmik> i m using amd64 kubuntu and eclipse crashed with a JVM error.... pls help
[20:39] <onlinelli> I won't be online tomorrow, but I'm sure someone can help then
[20:40] <[-plAzZzZA-]> ok, thanks you for consultation
[20:40] <onlinelli> bye <[-plAzZzZA-]>
[20:41] <amigo> hi ppl! I see /etc/default/tmpfs and variable SHM_SIZE is empty. How to calculate this value? or it do automaticaly?
[20:42] <coggz> hi all
[20:44] <[-plAzZzZA-]> À åñòü ëþäè, êîòîðûå ïî ðóññêè ðàçãîâàðèâàþò ? :))
[20:44] <wucherkater> i am in the adept manager i i found the java plugin for firefox
[20:44] <wucherkater> but i get an error when i try to install it
[20:45] <luke_> wucherkater:  try using the one off the java site
[20:45] <wucherkater> but i am too stupid to install it
[20:46] <luke_> wucherkater:  ok, is firefox open while you use apt?
[20:46] <walmik> hi all how can specifically i install ibm's jvm for 64 bit
[20:46] <wucherkater> now its closed
[20:46] <wucherkater> i dont know it was open
[20:46] <dam> hello I have a problem with smplayer: whenever I load subtitles it goes crazy
[20:47] <coggz> walmik: use synaptic or adept to search for it
[20:47] <coggz> !smplayer
[20:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smplayer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47] <coggz> !mplayer
[20:47] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[20:48] <coggz> !subtitles
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about subtitles - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:49] <walmik> coggz: i ve done that but only the Sun version shows up
[20:49] <coggz> walmik: ill keep looking...
[20:49] <walmik> coggz: thank u so much
[20:50] <walmik> coggz: specifically i want to run eclipse without it crashing every now n then with the JVM error
[20:50] <wucherkater> i want to use java in firefox  anyone know how?
[20:51] <Arwen> !java | wucherkater
[20:51] <ubotu> wucherkater: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:51] <dam> the problem is that it was working an hour ago
[20:51] <wucherkater> i restart linux now ^^
[20:51] <dam> smplayer + subs was working
[20:51] <wucherkater> maybe it will work than
[20:51] <dam> and now it's just suborn
[20:51] <walmik> coggz: i m using amd64 with kubuntu7.10 and eclipse 3.2
[20:52] <coggz> walmik: thanks,
[20:52] <coggz> dam: have you tried reinstalling?
[20:52] <dam> no but that's a good idea
[20:53] <coggz> walmik: have you recently urgraded xorg
[20:54] <fevel> im having trouble with kde 4, every time I logout, the icones I erased from the desktop returns
[20:54] <fevel> can anyone give a hand?
[20:54] <walmik> coggz: i m sorry but i dont know what that means.... i ve recently installed kubuntu
[20:55] <walmik> coggz: actually i m quite new to it and i had to install about 5 times to get it to work with my nividia card
[20:55] <coggz> walmik: I'm no expert either :), have you installed any updates since you got kubuntu?
[20:55] <walmik> coggz: just the basic updates, no kernel updates.. i did that once and i had to reinstall kubuntu
[20:57] <walmik> actually i just need a good ide for php...
[20:57] <walmik> !php ide
[20:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php ide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:58] <walmik> !ide
[20:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:58] <vedavox> does kdevelop not have a php add on?
[21:00] <coggz> walmik: emacs is supposed to be good, but ive never used
[21:01] <martijn81> walmik: there is quanta
[21:01] <walmik> martijn81: ok i ll check it out
[21:01] <coggz> walmik: im just downloading gphpedit - a php/css/htm development prog
[21:02] <rickest> walmik: do you know about 'envy'? that might help with your nvidia woes next time
[21:02] <walmik> coggz: ok i ll do that too... thanks...
[21:02] <xxBasYxx> hi i have movie DVD .iso image... how to play this movie?
[21:02] <walmik> rickest: i had used envy.. but it ended up into problems after a kernel updaste
[21:03] <rickest> walmik: ah
[21:03] <Bb-7HaCk> Hi
[21:03] <Bb-7HaCk> I've got a problem with kubuntu
[21:03] <vedavox> xxBasYxx: you could burn it to dvd, or mount it
[21:04] <coggz> xxBasYxx: try mplayer
[21:04] <coggz> Bb-7HaCk: what is your problem
[21:05] <Bb-7HaCk> I can't listen to any sounds
[21:05] <walmik> coggz: gphpedit looks promising
[21:06] <coggz> walmik: good, ill just get it open
[21:06] <Bb-7HaCk> I think speakers are disabled, but doesn't happen in windows!
[21:06] <coggz> walmik: what u doing in php?
[21:06] <vedavox> Bb-7HaCk: can you open kmix
[21:07] <Bb-7HaCk> Yes, I can
[21:07] <vedavox> and check the settings there
[21:07] <Bb-7HaCk> OK
[21:08] <walmik> coggz: i m creating CMS s for  flash sites
[21:08] <coggz> walmik: gphpedit is pretty good, i will use this for development no i think
[21:08] <Bb-7HaCk> Nothing new
[21:08] <coggz> walmik: cool, ive gotten lasy using wordpress
[21:08] <coggz> www.opensourcesurfer.co.uk
[21:09] <walmik> coggz: all i needed is code highlighting, auto complete, etc... but prefereably something that can even autocomplete custom classes/vars like Zend
[21:09] <vedavox> Bb-7HaCk: ok, go to system settings and open the sound system, try a check sound, if not restart the sound server
[21:09] <coggz> hmm, ive never actually used zend, but i useed to use Dreamweaver
[21:10] <Bb-7HaCk> OK
[21:10] <vedavox> Bb-7HaCk: sorry make sure its enabled, its changed since I last used it
[21:11] <coggz> walmik: the brackets auto indent too, plus it does C/C++ which im learning
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> Quanta+ is pretty good
[21:11] <walmik> coggz: r u talking about gphpedit?
[21:11] <Kubunt1> ignore this message
[21:11] <coggz> walmik: yes,
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> for HTML development
[21:12] <coggz> nosrednaekim: we are talking php
[21:12] <walmik> coggz: ah cool/ im installing it now...
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> I think it does PHP too
[21:12] <coggz> walmik: yes, very good. Id now reccomend
[21:12] <Bb-7HaCk> I' ve done the test sound, but I don't hear nothing
[21:12] <coggz> nosrednaekim: u ever seen gphpedit?
[21:12] <walmik> nosrednaekim: i checked out quanta.. i ve used itin the past... did nt like it much... thanks for suggesting anyways
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> nope...
[21:13] <walmik> coggz: wat r u using to learn C
[21:13] <coggz> walmik: C++ from the ground up - its a book
[21:14] <tikka> i have a dilema
[21:14] <walmik> coggz: what i meant is,.. wat IDE and compiler
[21:14] <coggz> walmik: i learn much faster from paperr based media, plus i have a great cheap bookshop down the road
[21:14] <coggz> oh, kate and g++
[21:14] <Bb-7HaCk> I'ts enabled, and I've restarted the sound system, but nothing
[21:14] <coggz> bt i will use gphpedit now as it is much better
[21:14] <tikka> often times, vlc, kaffeine, mplayer.. all crash out after trying to play video files.  however, for weeks its fine, then out of the blue this happens. a reboot seems to resolve it. any ideas?
[21:15] <coggz> tikka: are the videos very large that crash it?
[21:15] <vedavox> Bb-7HaCk: back to kmix, is the correct soundcard selected? not a modem or something else?
[21:16] <walmik> coggz: oh... cool
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> Bb-7HaCk » do you have a HDA Intel card?
[21:17] <Bb-7HaCk> I don't know, I don't remember
[21:18] <Bb-7HaCk> Yes, I think yes
[21:19] <Bb-7HaCk> Sorry, I must go. I'll come back here tomorrow. Thanks
[21:19] <coggz> Bb-7HaCk: bye
[21:21] <walmik> coggz: is this ur site http://www.opensourcesurfer.co.uk/
[21:21] <coggz> walmik: yep
[21:22] <walmik> coggz: nice... interesting.. i like the funny signs
[21:22] <wucherkater> coggz u know where is firefox installed ?
[21:23] <walmik> coggz: i m gonna go now... nice talking to u.. bye
[21:23] <wucherkater> anyone know where is the directory of firefox
[21:23] <coggz> wucherkater:
[21:23] <coggz> walmik: bye
[21:24] <wucherkater> ya?
[21:24] <coggz> wucherkater: /usr/bin/firefox
[21:24] <RangdeBasant> i cant get this bash script working. can any one help? http://pastebin.com/m3e78c441
[21:24] <the-erm> I installed upgraded audacity recently, and now I can't record. http://pastebin.ca/913142 # here's what audacity spits out any ideas?
[21:24] <coggz> wucherkater: /usr/share/firefox/
[21:25] <PhilRod> hi, how can I tell knetworkmanager/systemsettings to use wpa(_supplicant)? I don't see an option in the settings, but if I run wpa_supplicant manually, then disable/enable the wireless card in systemsettings, it works ok
[21:26] <Wise_One> guys can i ask something?
[21:26] <trappist> !ask
[21:26] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:27] <coggz> PhilRod: hmm, my knetworkmanager works with wpa fine, no need to start wpasupplicant manually
[21:27] <Wise_One> i have edited xorg.conf through recovery mode, and now i don't know how to save and close it so i can boot normally
[21:27] <user5> hi there
[21:27] <wucherkater> coggz http://nopaste.php-quake.net/17500 do u understand this?
[21:27] <PhilRod> coggz: is there a setting to tell it to use wpa, or did you just enter the ssid and passphrase?
[21:29] <PhilRod> RangdeBasant: script too long to understand immediately, but if you're running it from cron, check whether it has the required environment set
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> Wise_One » what editor are you using?
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> Wise_One » vim? or nano?
[21:29] <Wise_One> oh sorry, i used vim
[21:29] <RangdeBasant> PhilRod what envi set?
[21:29] <ForzaPalermo> hey why does .d3lphinview appear in all my folders i view
[21:29] <ForzaPalermo> anyway we can get that not to create? or appear at all
[21:30] <coggz> PhilRod: just entered phrase...
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> Wise_One » you already closed it? you just want to know how to shutdown?
[21:30] <PhilRod> RangdeBasant: well, I didn't read enough of the script to tell what env vars you need, but it's your script, so I guess you know :-)
[21:30] <wucherkater> Change to your Mozilla (or Mozilla Firefox) plugins directory  / where is this directory
[21:30] <RangdeBasant> PhilRod i dont know scripting
[21:30] <Wise_One> i want to shut it down, don't know how
[21:30] <PhilRod> coggz: ok, I wondered if it had some heuristic to do that
[21:31] <coggz> wucherkater: i looked at the thing, it seems overly confusing
[21:31] <Wise_One> haven't closed xorg.conf, don't know how to close it
[21:32] <PhilRod> RangdeBasant: ok, you'll have to give more details - what is the script meant to do, how are you trying to run it, what do you expect to happen, and what actually happens?
[21:32] <PhilRod> Wise_One: esc : x
[21:32] <SQLDarkly> Does Kubuntu have teh ability to lock down PCs over a network ala Windows Domain Policy
[21:32] <rickest> Wise_One: :x     to save and exit,   :q   to abort and exit
[21:32] <wucherkater> coggz its ok but i dont know where the directory for plugins is
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> Wise_One » esc, then :x then enter
[21:32] <PhilRod> Wise_One: but set your EDITOR environment variable to 'pico' or some other reasonable editor
[21:33] <RangdeBasant> PhilRod http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=699029     see the 3.
[21:34] <coggz> wucherkater: does the deb package not work?
[21:34] <Wise_One> didn't do anything and now i screwed the file up.... should i reset the pc?
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> Wise_One » no...
[21:36] <wucherkater> no the deb package gets an error
[21:36] <PhilRod> RangdeBasant: if you're trying to do enforced breaks, try rsibreak
[21:36] <RangdeBasant> Philip5 rsibreak?
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> Wise_One » how did you mess the file up?
[21:37] <jpatrick> !info rsibreak | RangdeBasant
[21:37] <ubotu> rangdebasant: rsibreak (source: rsibreak): KDE utility which can help to prevent the RSI. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-4 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 1160 kB
[21:38] <Wise_One> when i pressed the buttons you told me, some lines went down, some letters got erased. can i undo it?
[21:38] <RangdeBasant> !info rsi
[21:38] <ubotu> Package rsi does not exist in gutsy
[21:38] <twosouls82> RangdeBasant: one option would be to create a script which runs as root by making it suid, make sure it is readable by 'world' and that it executes the dcop call as the user logged in (sudo -u <user> <command>).. I am just thinking out loud
[21:38] <RangdeBasant> !rsi
[21:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:39] <RangdeBasant> twosouls82 ok. and how to do the other things?
[21:39] <twosouls82> RangdeBasant: the script could be placed in the system wide Autostart directory
[21:39] <RangdeBasant> PhilRod rsi ?
[21:40] <RangdeBasant> jpatrick thx
[21:40] <jpatrick> RangdeBasant: no problem
[21:40] <RangdeBasant> twosouls82 ok . nice but how do i do the rest of the things. like lock after 30 mins of unlock even and log it?
[21:40] <PhilRod> RangdeBasant: giyf
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> Wise_One » yeah....hit "esc" and then ":q" and then enter which exits without saving
[21:41] <RangdeBasant> PhilRod whats giyf?
[21:41] <PhilRod> "google is your friend"
[21:41] <twosouls82> :)
[21:41] <Wise_One> ":q" is just the letter "q" or in combination to sth else?
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> both
[21:43] <wucherkater> how do delete a file in command
[21:43] <PhilRod> rm -i filename
[21:44] <sredna> hi
[21:44] <sredna> after i updated to the 3.5.9 packages my Desktop shows files in / - even after I changed the desktop path in the kde settings!
[21:44] <sredna> how do i fix that???
[21:45] <twosouls82> sredna: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kcmshell4 desktoppath
[21:45] <twosouls82> change it there
[21:45] <wucherkater> ri did it
[21:45] <wucherkater> ^
[21:46] <wucherkater> ^^
[21:46] <sredna> twosouls82: i kinda did that
[21:46] <sredna> twosouls82: and I DO NOT RUN KDE4, KDE4 is BROKEN
[21:46] <twosouls82> sredna: I guess you have to relogin after changing the desktop path (so it kdesktop will re-read its config)
[21:46] <sredna> i may run kde 4.1 or 4.2
[21:46] <sredna> twosouls82: i did that
[21:47] <twosouls82> not kde 4, my bad: "kcmshell desktoppath" then
[21:47] <twosouls82> sredna: --^
[21:48] <sredna> twosouls82: and as i said, i DID change it. my desktop STILL shows files from /
[21:48] <sredna> I wonder if you heard about that in here before?
[21:49] <sredna> in #kde they say 'ubuntu?
[21:49] <wucherkater> so al last question
[21:49] <sredna> when i tell it, so i guess so ;)
[21:49] <wucherkater> where to change the bootloader
[21:49] <sredna> sredna: another kubuntu kfscage, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/175982
[21:49] <wucherkater> i would like to use windows standart
[21:50] <twosouls82> sredna: you reinstalled kdesktop? one reported it being fixed afterwards
[21:51] <coggz> bye all
[21:51] <Oloughlin75> cya coggz
[21:51] <sredna> twosouls82: i didn't reinstall shit, i updated. but the link above seems to point to a possible fix
[21:51]  * sredna tries
[21:52]  * sredna thinks kubuntu should use the kde path
[21:53] <jpatrick> !ohmy | sredna
[21:53] <ubotu> sredna: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:53] <sredna> jpatrick: sorry?
[21:53] <sredna> jpatrick: what did i do to hurt your feelings?
[21:54] <heavymetalwiseon> so sorry guys, had internet problems, didn't see if you answered....
[21:54] <jpatrick> sredna: what kde path?
[21:55] <heavymetalwiseon> i'm Wise_One by the way
[21:55] <wucherkater> anyone know how to configure the bootloader
[21:55] <wucherkater> ?
[21:55] <storbeck> Which bootloader?
[21:55] <wucherkater> kubunto bootloader
[21:55] <wucherkater> it was standartly there
[21:55] <jpatrick> !grub | wucherkater
[21:55] <ubotu> wucherkater: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:57] <sredna> someone said something to me just as i logged out, could you please repeat?
[21:58] <storbeck> [16:54] <jpatrick> sredna: what kde path?
[21:58]  * sredna now got his own mess of icons back on the desktop, using the recipe in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/175982
[21:58] <emilsedgh> sredna: jpatrick said 'what kde path'
[21:58] <sredna> jpatrick: the kde desktop path form the kde 'path' configuration module :)
[21:59] <jpatrick> sredna: that's /usr no?
[21:59] <sredna> jpatrick: the desktop path is 'Desktop' pr default
[22:00] <jpatrick> sredna: yes, we have that
[22:00] <sredna> kde adds that to ~/ and gets ~/Desktop
[22:00] <storbeck> ~/.kde/
[22:00] <sredna> jpatrick: appearently something makes it fail in the kde 3.5.9 packages, which aren't of course in the official path.
[22:01] <wucherkater> how to open a lst
[22:01] <wucherkater> ops
[22:01] <heavymetalwiseon> sorry for me being impatient but anything to undo changes to xorg.conf and exit?
[22:01] <storbeck> wucherkater: vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:01] <wucherkater> http://nopaste.php-quake.net/17502  is it ok so will windows now be the first option in bootloader?
[22:01] <jpatrick> heavymetalwiseon: copy the backup made to xorg.conf
[22:01] <Oloughlin75> heavymetalwiseon: just close it and dont save?
[22:02] <sredna> why do you speak yellow?
[22:02] <wucherkater> someone can have a look on it?
[22:02] <jpatrick> sredna: sorry, I haven't used .9 yet, so don't know
[22:03] <storbeck> heavymetalwiseon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:03] <heavymetalwiseon> i don't think i have a backup (newbie faults). i just want to close vim so i can boot normally
[22:03] <sredna> jpatrick: possibly using the xdg-user-dir tools is the future, but then i think the kde Paths module should be made to work with that :)
[22:03] <heavymetalwiseon> but i'm still in xorg.conf. can't close the file
[22:03] <storbeck> :q!
[22:03] <sredna> jpatrick: it has the bug, and whenever someone asks, point them to the url i pasted above :)
[22:03] <storbeck> Type that.
[22:04] <jpatrick> sredna: right
[22:04] <sredna> editor tip: use nano, it doesn't make you cry nearly as often as vi
[22:04] <storbeck> I prefer vi.
[22:04] <heavymetalwiseon> is ":q" just the letter or in combination to something else?
[22:05] <trappist> sredna: eh?
[22:05] <storbeck> :q means quit. However, if you made changes and you don't wish to save it will give you an error.
[22:05] <trappist> heavymetalwiseon: in command mode, :q<enter> to quit
[22:05] <storbeck> So you do, :q! to force it to quit.
[22:05] <trappist> storbeck: actually if you made changes it'll give you an error even if you do wish to quit, cuz it doesn't know
[22:05] <heavymetalwiseon> it just beeps and doesn't do anything
[22:06] <storbeck> trappist: That's what I just said.
[22:06] <storbeck> heavymetalwiseon: press the 'esc' key a bunch of times. Then do :q!
[22:07] <heavymetalwiseon> still nothing, only beeps
[22:07] <storbeck> Close the terminal by pressing 'x'
[22:08] <heavymetalwiseon> i'm not in terminal, i'm in recovery mode
[22:08] <storbeck> Is it giving you an error message?
[22:08] <heavymetalwiseon> no nothing
[22:08] <storbeck> Reboot and start over.
[22:09] <heavymetalwiseon> see, i started the computer, and didn't boot to kde, just command line or recovery console
[22:09] <heavymetalwiseon> then i wanted to edit xorg.conf
[22:09] <storbeck> Did you try typing, startx ?
[22:09] <jpatrick> heavymetalwiseon: tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[22:10] <heavymetalwiseon> "startx" didn't work 'cause I had doubled EndSectionEndSection
[22:11] <heavymetalwiseon> how can i run the above command if i'm still in the xorg.conf file?
[22:11] <rickest> heavymetalwiseon: :!your_cmd_here
[22:11] <storbeck> I find it hard to believe that if you're in vi, :q! won't work.
[22:12] <heavymetalwiseon> sorry i can't paste anything, i'm chatting through vista
[22:12] <heavymetalwiseon> desktop with kubuntu is stuck into xorg.conf
[22:12] <storbeck> So just restart, reconfigure xserver-xorg and be done with it.
[22:12] <heavymetalwiseon> reset the computer?
[22:12] <twosouls82> heavymetalwiseon: Ctrl+Alt+F2 -> log in -> killall vim
[22:12] <jpatrick> heavymetalwiseon: exit nano with Ctrl-C
[22:14] <jussi01> ctrl-x :)
[22:14] <heavymetalwiseon> twosouls82: killall said "operation not permitted, no process killed"
[22:14] <twosouls82> heavymetalwiseon: "sudo killall vim" then
[22:14] <heavymetalwiseon> but the key combo allowed me to get to the command line
[22:15] <storbeck> What key combo?
[22:15] <heavymetalwiseon> Ctrl+Alt+F2
[22:15] <twosouls82> heavymetalwiseon: rtue, but it still runs on terminal 1
[22:15] <twosouls82> heavymetalwiseon: Ctrl+Alt+F1, and see
[22:15] <heavymetalwiseon> yeap, i'll just reconfigure the xserver now
[22:16] <storbeck> Did you close vim?
[22:16] <heavymetalwiseon> yes i did
[22:17] <twosouls82> heavymetalwiseon: first kill vim at terminal 2 (Ctrl+Alt+F2) -> sudo killall vim -> exit -> Ctrl+Alt+F1 and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:18] <sMonk> I got a question, I've looked around and I can't find any good DVD Cloning software, is there any for linux? I'm trying to back up some good dvd's I have, and Nero & K3B keeps giving me the o'l "encription error"
[22:18] <twosouls82> sMonk: k9copy
[22:18] <heavymetalwiseon> "sudo killall vim" returns "vim: no process killed"
[22:19] <twosouls82> heavymetalwiseon: so you either weren't using vim or you already closed/killed it
[22:19] <sMonk> twosouls82: does that work well? like drive-to-drive? I have two dvdr drives.. just wondering
[22:19] <heavymetalwiseon> guess i already killed it, so now i reconfigure xorg right?
[22:20] <twosouls82> sMonk: my sister uses it to make so called 'backups', I wouldn't know (http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/)
[22:20] <jpatrick> heavymetalwiseon: yep
[22:20] <sMonk> LoL
[22:21] <sMonk> Mine is actually legit, I havee some allo, allo! season dvd's and my friend wants to borrow them off me.. I want to give him the copys to borrow, cause the last DVD he borrowed off me wound up scratched and garbage
[22:22] <stephen> any one know how to fix usplash? For some reason my screen screen just stays black during start up and shut down
[22:22] <tikka> [21:15] <coggz> tikka: are the videos very large that crash it?
[22:22] <tikka> of variable size really to be honest, 700mb is the size of the one i last tried
[22:23] <twosouls82> sMonk: that's a 'backup' too :)
[22:24] <sMonk> lol, I'm getting the copys back tho
[22:25] <storbeck> sMonk: That's illegal. :)
[22:25] <sMonk> what he 'does' with them while he has them, is his 'legallity'
[22:26] <Wise_One> guys, thanks a million. it worked fine. sorry if i wasn't very clear about things. how could i make a backup of xorg.conf in case i mess it up again?
[22:26] <sMonk> I'm simply lending them so he can watch them and return them.. lol then again, everything in this world is illegal some how.
[22:26] <storbeck> Wise_One: cp xorg.conf xorg.bak
[22:27] <twosouls82> sMonk: why not simply use "sudo aptitude install k9copy" and see if it suits your needs?
[22:27] <sMonk> BTW, I only have Kubuntu, installed on two drives (one is system the other is my "home" folder) My wife's been nagging at me that she wants a small run of Windows, what channel can I go to get help with that?
[22:27] <jpatrick> Wise_One: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup too
[22:27] <sMonk> twosouls82: Already done
[22:28] <Wise_One> thanks again fellas
[22:29] <sergio> hola
[22:30] <twosouls82> sMonk: well, did it? is it able to do instant copies?
[22:30] <jussi01> sMonk: Id suggest you give windows in virtualbox/vmware a go
[22:31] <sMonk> working on it
[22:31] <sMonk> jussi01: oh, what's this about?
[22:31] <hola> same can help me to configure my webcam
[22:31] <storbeck> What webcam?
[22:31] <twosouls82> Wise_One: you changed your name, I see. nice that you managed to fix it
[22:32] <hola> storbeck: vmicro
[22:32] <twosouls82> hola: if it is an usb cam; you can use "lsusb" to see the usb devices
[22:33] <hola> twosouls82: 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[22:33] <storbeck> hola, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/cannot-install-webcam-vimicro-usb-pc-camera-zc0301plh-on-ubuntu-edgy-517684/
[22:33] <storbeck> Step by step directions.
[22:33] <twosouls82> sweet
[22:34] <twosouls82> why not use spca5xx-source btw?
[22:35] <storbeck> I suppose you could.
[22:35] <sMonk> twosouls82: It seems to be working, I'll let you know when it finishes doing what ever it's doing
[22:35] <storbeck> I didn't write the directions, I'm just the messenger. :)
[22:36] <hola> storbeck: which steps exactlY?
[22:36] <storbeck> hola, Did you click the link?
[22:38] <sMonk> jussi01: Do you use virtualbox at all?
[22:39]  * twosouls82 uses VirtualBox
[22:40] <dZen|n|> hello how do I shafe a folder on another dev it tells me only your home folder can be shared ?
[22:40] <dZen|n|> WITH SAMBA
[22:40] <storbeck> chmod it.
[22:41] <sMonk> twosouls82: Will this run Windows XP well?
[22:41] <twosouls82> sMonk: I use it on my laptop, for my work, to run XP
[22:41] <twosouls82> I hate doing so btw
[22:41] <twosouls82> but it works fine
[22:41] <hola> same can help me to configure my webcam
[22:42] <hola> 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[22:42] <sMonk> Ok, cause I was thinking of installing a small partition of it.. but someone mentioned virtualbox or vmware
[22:42] <sMonk> my wife has some Windows programs she wants to run, and they run like crap in Wine
[22:43] <storbeck> hola, I'm pretty sure I already helped you and you didn't click the link.
[22:43] <storbeck> dZen|n|: In Samba, edit your smb.conf in /etc/samba
[22:43] <hola> storbeck: oh yes.....i clickeed it but i have this problem HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[22:44] <storbeck> Refresh the page. Works fine for me.
[22:45] <hola> storbeck:  wget http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/spca5xx-20060501.tar.gz    DOES NOT WORKS
[22:45] <storbeck> Oh
[22:45] <sMonk> K9copy just crashed
[22:46] <dZen|n|> storbeck: I did it in kmenu- system settings- sharing
[22:47] <hola> storbeck: do you confirm
[22:48] <storbeck> hola, What kernel are you on?
[22:48] <twosouls82> hola: sudo apt-get install spca5xx-source && sudo  module-assistant update && sudo m-a a-i spca5xx* && sudo modprobe spca5xx*
[22:48] <steveire> Can I get a md5 sum of a cd?
[22:49] <storbeck> http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html < There's also direct links to the file on there.
[22:49] <storbeck> Download the one you need, and continue with the directions on the howto.
[22:50] <twosouls82> steveire: "cat /dev/cdrom | md5sum" might work
[22:50] <hola> twosouls82: ok and after what have i do
[22:51] <storbeck> hola, what kernel are you on?
[22:51] <twosouls82> it will sure take a while to complete though, once it does it will output something like "b1946ac92492d2347c6235b4d2611184  -"
[22:51] <twosouls82> steveire: --^
[22:52] <hola> twosouls82: ok and after what have i do
[22:52] <steveire> twosouls82: It didn't seem to do anything, so I stopped it
[22:52] <twosouls82> hola: all command completed successfully?
[22:52] <twosouls82> steveire: it does, it will take long though
[22:52] <hola> twosouls82: it tell me :spca5xx*, what is spca5xx*?
[22:53] <twosouls82> hola: please tell the complete output of it
[22:53] <storbeck> wget http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/gspcav1-20071224.tar.gz
[22:53] <storbeck> Use that instead of the wget in the directions
[22:54] <FSHero> Hello everyone: I am trying to share a printer from a Kubuntu computer to another dual-booting Kubuntu and WinXP.
[22:54] <FSHero> Can anyone point me to some simple instructions please?
[22:54] <storbeck> Then follow the rest of the directions (Be sure to respace the spca5xx-20060501 with gspcav1-20071224
[22:54] <hola> storbeck: and after i have to follow the previos lind instructuons?
[22:54] <FSHero> I tried following www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtoprintipp.html
[22:54] <storbeck> Yes, but change the scpablahblah to the gspcablahblah
[22:54] <FSHero> ... but got stuck :P
[22:55] <hola> storbeck: please help me
[22:55] <storbeck> ...
[22:55] <bjwebb> hmmm
[22:55] <hola> storbeck: i dont know where the file has been downloadd
[22:55] <bjwebb> should kaffeine be able to play protected dvds?
[22:55] <bjwebb> given that libdvdcss2 is installed
[22:55] <storbeck> It's downloaded to the same directory you typed wget in.
[22:56] <hola> storbeck: no there isnt
[22:57] <hola> storbeck:ok i found it
[22:57] <storbeck> Where was it?
[22:57] <hola> storbeck:what i have to rename
[22:57] <storbeck> You don't rename anything
[22:57] <storbeck> I'm saying, follow the directions, but when they say to type in the scpca stuff, type in the actual name. It will be gspca something
[22:58] <steveire> twosouls82: That did take a long time.
[22:58] <steveire> 6 mins
[22:58] <twosouls82> steveire: it read all data, but did it work as I expected?
[22:58] <steveire> Yep
[22:58] <hola> storbeck: sudo modprobe -r spca5xx is it correct
[22:59] <storbeck> hola, What did I just tell you?
[22:59] <storbeck> Change the spca5xx to the correct name. Type 'ls' if you forget what it's called.
[22:59] <twosouls82> steveire: I hope you used the proper device node (and replaced /dev/cdrom, if required)
[22:59] <storbeck> Don't rename the file, just change what you're typing.
[23:00] <bjwebb> oh
[23:00] <bjwebb> decryption takes a while, doesn't it
[23:00] <hola> storbeck: gspca coul be the right name?
[23:00] <steveire> twosouls82: The checksum compares with the md5sum.txt file for the iso and the md5 of the iso itself.
[23:01] <steveire> Here's another way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[23:02] <twosouls82> steveire: hahaha
[23:02] <twosouls82> I assume that is way faster
[23:02] <twosouls82> than my pipe :)
[23:02] <storbeck> Yes, sudo modprobe gspca
[23:03] <hola> storbeck: /dev/video: No such file or directory
[23:03] <bjwebb> what programme would you recommend to rip dvds?
[23:04] <storbeck> hola, type dmesg | tail
[23:04] <storbeck> and post it in pastebin
[23:05] <scjp_> hello
[23:05] <hola> storbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56900/
[23:06] <bjwebb> netsplit
[23:06] <scjp_> i am converting an mdf file to iso file using mdf2iso, now getting error message "file  is already ISO9660."
[23:07] <sebas891> hey folks, after doing an update when I go in system administration in the k menu, and I want to do stuff "in admin mode" I don't get the password prompt...
[23:08] <sebas891> I click on "administrator mode" but I don't get the password box to enter it...
[23:08] <PhilRod> scjp_: what does 'file' think the file is?
[23:08] <twosouls82> what happens to "/etc/firefox/profile" when firefox gets updated?
[23:08] <sebas891> do you know a way around that ?
[23:09] <scjp_> PhilRod, file is called abc.mdf and want to convert it into abc.iso
[23:10] <PhilRod> scjp_: if you run "file abc.mdf" in a konsole, what file format does it say?
[23:10] <hola> storbeck: are you still there
[23:10] <storbeck> hola, try compiling this > http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/oldrelease/spcaview-20061208.tar.gz
[23:10] <scjp_> PhilRod, i cannot run it wat do you by run , it is an image file something
[23:11] <storbeck> after you untar it, just do a make then make install
[23:12] <scjp_> PhilRod, ???
[23:12] <PhilRod> scjp_: I mean open a konsole, and in the konsole, type "file abc.mdf" (without the quotes)
[23:12] <PhilRod> that will run the "file" command on abc.mdf, which will tell you what file type it is
[23:13] <hola> storbeck: a lot of errors
[23:13] <scjp_> PhilRod, abc.mdf UDF filesystem data (version 1.5)
[23:13] <storbeck> hola, Do you have libsdl and libjpeg installed?
[23:14] <hola> storbeck: i dont know
[23:14] <bjwebb> hmmmm, why is k9copy in multiverse?
[23:14] <hola> storbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56901/
[23:14] <storbeck> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all libjpeg
[23:14] <PhilRod> scjp_: so it doesn't appear that the input file is really an iso. Check you're giving the right options to mdf2iso
[23:15] <PhilRod> and that you don't already have the output file lying around
[23:15] <stdin> storbeck: what exactly is the problem you're having?
[23:15] <storbeck> Yes, you don't have sdl installed.
[23:15] <hola> storbeck: E: Couldn't find package libjpeg
[23:15] <storbeck> stdin: I'm not having any problems
[23:15] <Oloughlin75> hola: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[23:15] <storbeck> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all libjpeg-dev
[23:16] <Oloughlin75> hola: then make
[23:16] <scjp_> PhilRod, i dont have the output file around, I am just giving this command called mdf2iso  abc.mdf abc.iso whereas abc.iso doesnt exist becoz it will be the new file
[23:17] <hola> storbeck: after sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all libjpeg-dev then make the result is the same
[23:18] <storbeck> sudo apt-get install libsdl*
[23:18] <storbeck> :)
[23:18] <hola> storbeck: E: Broken packages
[23:18] <storbeck> Heh, naturally.
[23:19] <storbeck> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[23:20] <hola> storbeck: and after?
[23:20] <storbeck> make
[23:21] <PhilRod> scjp_: check the manpage I guess. I'm not familiar with that app, I'm afraid
[23:22] <hola> storbeck: ok after make
[23:22] <hola> storbeck: make install?
[23:23] <storbeck> sudo make install
[23:23] <hola> storbeck: i have already done
[23:23] <hola> storbeck: after?
[23:24] <storbeck> scjp_: mdf2iso cue abc.mdf
[23:24] <storbeck> hola, run it
[23:24] <hola> storbeck: run what
[23:24] <storbeck> hola, the program that you just made
[23:24] <storbeck> spcaview
[23:25] <miladen> My filetransfering in Kopete sux donkeyjewels... is there a fix for this?
[23:25] <storbeck> scjp_: That will turn it into a .cue which is the same as an iso
[23:25] <storbeck> Or, you can do mdf2iso abc.mdf target.iso
[23:25] <hola> storbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56902/
[23:26] <hola> video0 does not created
[23:27] <storbeck> hola, modprobe gspcav
[23:27] <miladen> is there no fix for the filetransfering trouble in kopete?
[23:27] <Sidekickz> hi all
[23:27] <hola> storbeck: FATAL: Module gspcav not found.
[23:28] <storbeck> modprobe gspca
[23:28] <storbeck> Sorry, typo
[23:28] <Sidekickz> iḿ new on Kubuntu, and just want to know if konqueror is a good browser.
[23:28] <storbeck> Sidekickz: It is.
[23:29] <hola> storbeck: the same http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56902/
[23:29] <hola> ERROR opening V4L interface
[23:29] <storbeck> If gspca doesn't work, modprobe spca5xx
[23:29] <hola> FATAL: Module spca5xx not found.
[23:30] <Sidekickz> Any special recommendation?
[23:30] <storbeck> type modprobe scp then press the tab button
[23:30] <storbeck> spc***
[23:30] <Sidekickz> Konqueror use the mozila engine?
[23:31] <storbeck> KHTML is the engine.
[23:31] <hola> storbeck: 10 file
[23:32] <hola> storbeck: spcacat      spcacat.c    spcacat.o    spcaframe.h  spcaserv     spcav4l.c    spcav4l.h    spcav4l.o    spcaview     spcaview.c   spcaview.o
[23:32] <Sidekickz> 10x
[23:32] <storbeck> Heh, I thought you already installed spca
[23:33] <storbeck> hola, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/spca5xx-v4l1goodbye.tar.gz
[23:33] <storbeck> Then start the whole process of installing it over. The same way you install gspca
[23:34] <hola> storbeck: im lsot
[23:35] <storbeck> I noticed.
[23:35] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to run a remote app on my kubuntu desktop. I tried `ssh -X user@server1 xeyes` but get "Error: Can't open display:". On server2 it works. What could be missing on server1?
[23:35] <storbeck> vlt, the ssh server?
[23:36] <storbeck> Maybe the xeyes app?
[23:36] <vlt> storbeck: xeyes is installed there. And I can connect via ssh successfully.
[23:36] <hola> storbeck: sorry im a beginner...what have i do after cecompress spca5xx-v4l1goodbye
[23:36] <storbeck> hola, You don't remember doing what you did to install the gspca?
[23:36] <rickest> vlt: maybe ssh -Y
[23:37] <hola> storbeck: make and make install?
[23:37] <vlt> storbeck: sshd_config there says: X11Forwarding yes
[23:37] <vlt> rickest: I'll try ...
[23:38] <hola> storbeck: stop
[23:38] <hola> storbeck: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `Folder/spca5xx-v4l1goodbye'. Stop.
[23:39] <hola> storbeck: make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-386'
[23:39] <hola> storbeck:make: *** [default] Error 2
[23:39] <vlt> rickest: No, -Y didn't help.
[23:39] <storbeck> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` build-essential
[23:40] <hola> storbeck: it was already installed
[23:41] <storbeck> Is there a Makefile in the spca dir?
[23:41] <hola> storbeck: yes
[23:42] <storbeck> Post all your commands and errors from the time you did wget to now in pastebin
[23:42] <hola> ll
[23:45] <hola> storbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56904/
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[23:45] <fignew> ugh
[23:45] <storbeck> pwnt
[23:47] <storbeck> hola, Did you get it posted yet?
[23:47] <hola> storbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56904/
[23:47] <hola> after make i have this error
[23:49] <storbeck> Hrm, that's weird.
[23:49] <storbeck> Try sudo make
[23:49] <hola> the same
[23:50] <stdin> the error is because you're in a folder called "New Folder", it has a space in it and that's confusing the Makefile
[23:51] <stdin> rename it to something without a space in ti
[23:51] <storbeck> Ah, good catch stdin
[23:51] <stdin> s/ti/it/
[23:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> morning stdin
[23:53] <stdin> evening :)
[23:53] <hola> HELP me : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56907/
[23:55] <storbeck> hola: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442552
[23:55] <storbeck> That will help you get some of it sorted out.
[23:56] <storbeck> ln -s autoconfig.h config.h
[23:57] <hola> storbeck: in which directory have i start ln -s autoconfig.h config.h
[23:57] <stdin> the spca5xx module _should_ also be in linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r)
[23:57] <whabo>  does anyone of yoiu know of a plugin for screenlets or widgets
[23:57] <stdin> named gspca
[23:57] <whabo> ???
[23:58]  * Aranel note to self ; do NOT reboot system using SysRQ :/
[23:58] <whabo> please anyone?
[23:58] <storbeck> I already had him try to install gspca, no luck.
[23:58] <storbeck> hola, In the linux directory
[23:58] <hola> storbeck: where i extracted spca5xx-v4l1goodbye
[23:58] <hola> ?
[23:59] <storbeck> Yes.
[23:59] <hola> make now?
[23:59] <hola> ll
[23:59] <storbeck> yes
[23:59] <vlt> storbeck: Just noticed something: When I connect to server 1 `echo $DISPLAY` is empty while it is "localhost:10.0" on server 2. Any idea?
[23:59] <hola> storbeck: nothing