[00:45] I got a pc that i just formatted the hard drive ... is hardy ready for mainstream use? or should I just stick with gutsy for now? [00:48] mbrush: better stick with gutsy. ;) [00:48] i'm using alpha 4. i wouldn't suggest using it on a production system or a system where you will have stuff you value. [00:48] it's just for fun [00:48] i wanna see if i can get my LCD working [00:49] try plugging it in and turning it on? [00:49] hehehehe [00:49] yeah just for fun then youll come in here bitching about driver issues. lol jk. [00:49] yeah, probs with 1680x1050 .... i've spent far too many hours trying to get it to work [00:50] get the windows .inf file for the monitor and transpose the resolutions and frequencies into the xorg.conf file [00:50] that's what i had to do with my 32" wide viewsonic lcd [00:51] I got the HV freqs from the manual [00:52] I've tried a whole pile of different stuff with the xorg.conf ... it goes to 1680x1050 but it's all stretched out and beyond the edge of the screen [00:53] what video driver? [00:53] and what's the lcd's native resolution? [00:55] ATI AIW (tried 'ati' and 'fglrx') and 1680x1050 [00:58] 1680x1050 is native? [00:58] hrm [01:05] there is a button to the right of the 'System' menu - it dosnn't do anything. what is is for? [01:08] CarlFK, it is for to poop on you [01:08] heh [01:08] I bet it is spozed to be firefiox [01:09] FF, email, help - [01:10] ack - crash report errored... [01:10] lp is sad. [01:11] BaD_CrC, sorry, I got too many windows open here ... hehehe , yea that is native res [01:17] how do I activate the vga port on a laptop? [01:17] hitting the Fn-F3/F5 which has little screen icons didn't do it [01:18] er [01:18] where "i" = plug in the monitor [01:19] bios setting? [01:19] never mind. nothing to see here... [01:20] in playing "push all the buttons" I did find that Fn-F4 put's it to sleep, and it wakes up ok [01:21] CarlFK: The button you may be after is "xrandr --auto" [01:22] anyone know of a site where people post their xorg.conf and make/model of their vid/monitors? [01:22] such a database would be extremely useful [01:23] RAOF: nice. thanks [01:26] hello [01:27] is #ubuntu down? [01:27] "down"? [01:27] it tells me that I am ban? [01:28] mannytu_: join #ubuntu-ops [01:28] ok [01:32] Intrepid Ibix - is that sort of like a Gnu? =D [01:33] Ubuntu Ibix/Linux [01:39] /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png [01:39] warty? [01:46] That is strange... [01:47] "where do I change the name of the default backgroud?" "I du no, use the same filename, replace the file" [01:47] Seems to be a popular method for Linux hackery. :-) [01:49] Hi, my soundcard is not working anymore. I just rebooted my computer and now it does not find the device. [01:50] speaking of sound, where can I see a level meeter that shows what the mic is picking up? [01:50] 'lo [01:50] Recording Level Monitor. [01:51] It's called vumeter. [01:51] thanks [01:51] Anyone know? [01:57] Can anyone help me out? [02:05] 13 s lag [02:06] hup [02:07] kde or gnome? [02:09] heret1c, personal preference. [02:10] what do you need to know? mixer window? [02:10] * heret1c joined just now [02:12] heret1c, my sound card is not working anymore. [02:12] I am told it cannot find the device. [02:12] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device [02:12] ah. [02:14] Last thing that happened was I accidentally kicked the computer and it froze. I was listening to music in the process and when I kicked it the output went garbly. I just rebooted. [02:15] cheeched the sc is properly plugged? kiick may have disconnected it (unlikely, 'tho) [02:16] I'll check right now. [02:20] I take for grranted u run hardy. [02:21] Aye. [02:24] Can't wait for networking in gvfs!!! [02:28] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/alpha4 [02:31] ubotu bug audio [02:32] coochie.... [02:39] Hi all. [02:40] I just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 on a development machine with update-manager -d. My grub.conf was set to access the HDD by UID, and that doesn't seem to work. It's dropping me to a busybox prompt. Can anyone help? [02:41] change the UUID to the /dev/hd# or sd# perhaps. [02:41] Additional Data: if I insmod ide-core ide-generic and ide-disk, my /dev/hd* show up and I can mount them, but I'm not sure how to do that upstream in grub. [02:41] i thought most ide disks are now shown as the /dev/sd## type notation . [02:42] befor loading those modules try sudo fdisk -l, to see what disks are seen. [02:42] AFAIK, that's SATA, but I don't know. (going to get the test laptop, brb) [02:43] The changes to the ide subsystem are making most of my machines show their IDE disks as scsi disks these days. I got a few that still show them as hd## [02:43] dr_willis> hi there. [02:43] Moo! [02:43] :) [02:44] didst hdparn -Tt your disk(s)? [02:44] Im not on a linux box at the moment. [02:44] m [02:44] ah [02:44] why should i speed test my disks? :0 [02:44] heh. [02:45] it ought to be priority numero ono. [02:45] I have no disk problems here. [02:45] checking wether fma is on. [02:45] dma [02:47] they have to sort it out. with 99% certainty, that bug and the (default) spindown setting zapped my drive. [02:48] heret1c: the one in /etc/.../laptop-mode? [02:49] ng> spot on. [02:50] the one that ive seen so many heated threads on - and not a lot of real data. :) [02:51] and yes dma is on for all my hard disks. :) === ActiveOne is now known as IdleOne [02:51] pointless for a lappy running on ac most of the time. [02:52] doc> what hdparm -d1 say? [02:53] heret1c: no its not. rather use AC power then wear out my battery. :P [02:54] as> spot on. [02:55] from what i hear just Looking at your laptop battery wears them out. [02:56] Additional Data point. My issue does not seem to occur with one of the older new kernels.* specific version in a second... The hd was not recognised as /dev/hd* or /dev/sd* on the new new kernel, but is /dev/sd* on the older new kernel. [02:56] its amazing how short a lifespan those things seem to have [02:56] so i make a point about people being fan boys, and i get called on being off topic. saying two sentances lol. and this other guy is talking about needing to change all his usernames on all the websites. :| [02:57] We could always switch back to good old lead acid batteries.. :) A deep cycle battery will power your laptop for about 8 hours... of course it weighs 80 lbs and airport security will be on you like nachos, but it works! [02:57] lol. i noticed my battery is in the back unlike most laptops. at least i wont lose my genitals if it explodes. [02:58] doc> enter holograpic memory. [02:59] so lets talk about something ubuntu related. anyone get it running on KVM yet? [02:59] Here you go... http://www.batterymart.com/p-12v-225ah-sealed-lead-acid-gel-battery.html 225 amp hours. Enough for what, a week of work? :D [03:00] :| [03:01] i see why you guys hang out in here. the main chat is madness! [03:01] ng> google "hutchinson effect". 8) [03:02] 40% my ____ doesn't work, 10% how do I compile ____ and why do I need gcc, 50% ubotu? [03:02] haha. [03:03] some guy was saying ubuntu is far behind other distos. thats where i had to butt in. [03:03] and another thing. they keep mentioning envy, but autobot says stay away. [03:04] grr >:( [03:04] tehe [03:05] my tv-tuner doesn't work ;( [03:05] AtomicSpark, go ahead and use it... just dont expect any support in here from it. [03:05] how do i compile drivers for it? [03:05] do you know it ubotu? [03:05] hey [03:05] !bot | njol [03:05] njol: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [03:05] njol, are there linux drivers for it? Theres a lot of tv cards that do not work under linux [03:05] !tv [03:05] http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out [03:06] work timne for me byeee [03:06] goferit [03:07] i had to close the room [03:07] it was just too much [03:07] curious. It ran an fsck on /dev/sda1, and then dropped me back in to busybox. odd. [03:08] you ran it on a mounted drive didnt you? [03:09] no. [03:09] funny, my tv-tuner is analog but maintained in DVB driver, not ivtv [03:09] << does not understand the boot process very well, but is competent in other areas. [03:10] like power off process? [03:10] ... including not ignoring the fsck warnings about mounted drives, and being smart enough to remount them -ro [03:10] why does pidgen store stuff ina folder called purple? is that why my name on irc chat is purple?! madness. [03:11] AtomicSpark: Because that's what its core is called. libpurple. [03:11] oh i see. interesting. [03:11] used to be called 'libgaim' [03:11] AtomicSpark: set your name and it will not be "purple" [03:11] s/pidgin/evolution && s/purple/camel [03:12] do you know where I could get libgaim? its actully preventing me from installing gnome on my centos 5 server. [03:12] since that rename, the install just fails. [03:15] brb [03:16] had to get the name of the NickServ bot. :P [03:19] w00t. I can boot to the CLI... [03:19] good [03:19] Time to fix my X! [03:19] ttfn. [03:20] lawl. [03:20] i noticed some of you have your ip hidden [03:20] how does one do that? [03:21] * nemo isn't shy, personally [03:21] well you use comcast [03:21] there is no excuse for you [03:21] :P [03:21] well. I just cancelled verizon FIOS on monday [03:22] after having gone to the trouble of purchasing it [03:22] at the moment they are on my hate list [03:22] and those are the only two options in my area [03:22] yeah. i have cable. i don't bitch too much. [03:44] h'm. no shoutcast in hardy repos yet. [03:45] Is update-manager telling you there are any updates today? [03:46] It says, " It is unknown when the package information was updated last." [03:46] nope. [03:46] Lately they have been pushing out at least one update a day [03:46] last night package-manager received an update [03:47] I am just wondering why it is telling me that the package information is unknown [03:48] The package information seems to download and compares against existing packages before reporting that message [03:48] gotta eat...back in 5 minutes [03:49] * heret1c uses sudo -i | apt-get update === hydrogen is now known as Wasserstoff [03:54] heret1c: shoutcast won't be in Hardy, its proprietary (I guess it could be in multiverse), but icecast is what you're looking for probably === Mark_Milliman is now known as Mark_M|Away [04:00] I'm installing kubuntu hardy daily iso [04:00] I'm stuck at 94% [04:01] (configuring hardware) [04:01] anyone know if it's ok to kill the installer at this stage? [04:02] i'm wondering if alpha 5 will be released in the early hours of the day (i.e. soon) or tomorrow night [04:02] I can't see anything in the system log === Mark_M|Away is now known as Mark_Milliman [04:03] I think it's stuck on the wireless drivers === ubuntu is now known as naught101 [04:04] stupid installer [04:04] Is it officially announced or just slipped to us through a slew of packages through update-manager? [04:05] apt-get update didn't return any changes [04:06] The update to update-manager must have a little bug in it [04:08] I hope that it is soon because there are still some python bugs. At least the biggest of them seem to have gone away [04:08] I still have Screenlets occasionally crashing [04:09] hardy is working great for me 1st install that compiz works with no tweaking. Only 1 issue that I'm curious if anyone else is seeing. With compiz on, my windows have an pixalized shadow that looks really rough. Is this something that is known? [04:10] thero1, my shadow is fine. What video card to you have? [04:10] It sounds driver related with alpha-blending [04:10] my nVidia works [04:10] great [04:11] I am just as comfortable with Hardy as Gutsy. Gutsy seemed like a beta to me [04:11] now now. dont start telling people they can use hardy as a main os. :P [04:12] It is not for everyone but the people in here should be the ones gutsy enough to try Hardy. [04:12] snooze. [04:12] Don't get all legal on me [04:12] I had several problems with Gutsy's stability [04:13] Since I stopped tweaking this box Sunday, it has been working flawlessly. I just had to restart Compiz a couple of times which is par for the course. Most of the time it was due to python errors in other apps. [04:13] shadowing works correctly in the menu and for the top of windows and bottom. only choppy looking on the left and right side of windows. Using Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller [04:14] ick. [04:14] Didn't I see a driver update yesterday or the day before for those? [04:16] Take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682598 [04:18] Great thing about Linux is it can function wonderfully on older hardware and do things only the newest hardware can do with Visa [04:18] Vista that is [04:19] Hey guys, I've got a question as to how Dapper -> Hardy upgrades are working if there's no linux-image-686 transitional packages in hardy? (or at least, not on the alt CD or in packages.ubuntu.com) [04:20] with SAMBA this machine serves up music, pictures and files to the Win boxes and no one knows any different [04:20] ouch! [04:20] Haven't tried that one [04:21] I have always gone from current release to current release [04:21] Well, dapper is current [04:21] Guess so [04:21] not that edgy -> hardy will work, but LTS to LTS is half the point of LTS [04:22] true [04:22] I just went from Dapper to Edgy to Fiesty to Gutsy to Hardy [04:23] Mark_Milliman, aren't you afraid of hard drive fragmentation? [04:23] I like clean installs [04:23] During the Hardy upgrade I had a USB device go down that caused me to completely rebuild my system [04:23] pack that data in there tightly [04:23] I decided it was time for a clean install [04:23] I typically keep all of my packages updated [04:23] asdrubal: ext3 doesn't really suffer from fragmentation [04:23] that has kept me away from transitional packages [04:24] ext3 and all *nix file systems handle fragmentation well [04:24] LTS to LTS is a good point. you'd think that should work [04:25] I keep a running list of all of the non-distro packages I install. I had to rebuild/compile a handful of packages on this rebuild [04:25] that keeps everything fresh [04:25] It will/does/whatever, people have been testing. I'm just wondering how it actually does work, since I don't see transitional packages [04:25] i hear from other irc users that upgrading will slow your machine down. donno how. [04:25] LTS to LTS should be supported [04:25] Mark_Milliman, I just remove my checkinstalls/3rd party reps installs before upgrage [04:25] upgrade [04:25] Flannel, I'd expect the upgrader manually installs new packages rather than letting aptitude handle it automatically [04:26] Somewhere on the Ubuntu web site there is an explanation of the upgrade process [04:26] cwillu: Isn't that a stupid way of doing it though? Personally, I'd prefer not to have to use update-manager-core [04:26] I have only had minor issues when upgrading distributions [04:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSUpgradesHowto?highlight=%28upgrade%29 [04:26] dapper > hardy [04:26] cool Atomic [04:27] Do you guys know what's wrong with the cx88-alsa.ko module in 2.6.24-8? it hasn't worked since 2.6.24-4 [04:27] We know its supported, its apparently working too. Just not how it was supposed to work last I inquired about it (about a year ago) [04:27] there was a more indepth page but i just found that while searching [04:27] maybe more like six months, but still. Seems awkward to not just have proper trans packages [04:27] Isn't the purpose of the upgrade-manager to make life easier Flannel? [04:27] ok cool. i didn't know dapper > hardy worked [04:28] so if it can do taht, why not edgy? just curious [04:28] Mark_Milliman: Its to make sure people don't screw up their system while upgrading, by removing third party repos, and doing some sanity checks before upgrading. Thats it. [04:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSUpgrades more about it. states some potential issues. [04:29] Ive read that page. It doesn't address anything technical [04:29] you have to go from edgy > fiesty > gutsy [04:29] thre is a page explaining you cant skip.. still looking. [04:29] Exactly to make Linux easy for the uneasy [04:29] mcquaid: Technically you could do edgy. It's not supported, but it is doable if you know what you're doing [04:29] Not all of us are command line jockeys [04:29] ok. just curious doesn't really apply to me. I havea gutsy box and a dapper box that I never got around to upgrading [04:29] wow. its on the main page. lol. [04:29] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [04:30] that explains all. [04:30] Mark_Milliman: I prefer it if my server didn't have it's life in some blackbox's script hands. Not that its source isn't out there, I'd just prefer an actual explanation of why it wasn't done the easy way (and how it actually works) [04:30] Hell, I have been using *nix for 20+ years and I still don't know all of the intricacies of package-manager. That is why I use the dumb GUI most of the time. [04:30] Mark_Milliman: but mostly, its just for my own knowledge, since I know I'm going to have to debug botched upgrades in #ubuntu once may comes around [04:30] i just recently discovered using add/remove programs is easier then package manager. ha. i use that now. :P [04:31] Flannel, I see your point which is why we have both methods. I also wanted to understand what would happen when I upgraded. [04:31] i didnt understand the difference at first. they should explain it better. [04:32] Mark_Milliman: basically, transitional packages (along with metapackages) get upgraded, and drag the rest of the versions along with them (metapackages and transitional packages take care of package name changes, like GAIM to pidgin, and whatnot) [04:32] Whether through the GUI or CLI I always want to know what will be happening and how it will affect my custom kernel, drivers, and non-distro programs. [04:32] i'm glad they finally added (back) the ability to install without formatting home [04:32] you used to be able to, then they removed it from the live cd, i enquired about it and found out it was a feature. lol [04:32] mcquaid: I don't think it ever went away, unless you're talking about some Hardy alpha [04:33] yes it left from live cds for awhile now. [04:33] only the alt installer could you uncheck format filesystem [04:33] I didn't use the live cd until I had to rebuild from scratch [04:33] mcquaid: In hardy then? since I know Gutsy allows you [04:34] It formatted root and home [04:34] gutsy doesn't not allow you to. [04:34] err does not.. [04:34] Flannel, I have a stupid IRC question. How are you sending me private messages in the main window? [04:35] over the years I have become Windows lazy and didn't come back to IRC until a year ago or so [04:35] Mark_Milliman: these aren't private, they're simply prefixed with your name, so your client highlights them, just like you juts did to me. [04:36] aaah [04:36] so Chatzilla is doing that for me [04:37] yes [04:37] i noticed pidgin has an option for ssl. does any irc server actully use ssl? [04:37] here's the wiki on this new 'feature' of keeping one's home: [04:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityPreserveHome [04:38] well it's kind of good i guess, it checks if there's an existing nix install and removes basically everything except /home [04:38] before, I did the equivalent manually. I mounted the part via a live cd. Deleted everything except home (to get a clean install cause of problems I had) [04:39] I've done this in the past without issue. But gutsy won't allow you if home occupies the / dir instead of it's own part [04:39] "if it gets approved" you sure its a feature of a current release? [04:39] you mean if home is not its own partition? ;) [04:40] i thought they were boasting this as a new feature of hardy [04:40] maybe it is. it might not be in the current version. [04:40] the blueprint is hard to understand. :\ [04:41] err if /home is in it's own part there's no issue. If one installs all of ubuntu to one part, it forces a format with the live cd (even if you uncheck format part) [04:41] whereas the alt cd has always allowed you to uncheck format part [04:42] hmm. i know they're working on moving some features from alt cd to the live cd. [04:42] i had to redownload the alt cd to accomplish this as I didn't have the space to back up my home [04:42] like encryption and adv partitioning. [04:42] mcquaid: They never removed that feature. If /home was on the same partition as /, you could never keep /home [04:43] yes you could. i did it before [04:43] before dapper what was the release called again... [04:43] Hoary [04:44] er, Breezy [04:44] ok with hoary you could [04:44] or breezy [04:44] any before dapper iirc [04:44] I'll fire up a breezy liveCD, but I don't think so. Since that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. [04:44] Er wait [04:44] pre-dapper you can't install from a liveCD [04:44] * Flannel isn't thinking. [04:44] i enquired when I couldn't and found out it was a new 'feature' cause some people installed ubuntu on existing installs (like say an old fedora install) and it caused issues [04:47] ok maybe i'm mixing up releases. I swear on one box i could uncheck format part with the live cd and it proceeded [04:47] then I couldn't any longer [04:48] yeah, but that'd be on a separate partition === Mark_Milliman is now known as Mark_M|Away [04:49] nope, never used sep parts for home. always meant to but didn't [04:50] you can uncheck it if you chose custom instead of recommended. === Mark_M|Away is now known as Mark_Milliman [04:50] wait no. you cant uncheck the root partition. just other ones. like your windows. ha. [04:59] urban terror is awesome [05:08] does anyone know what will happen if I kill the installer at 94% (configuring hardware), and restart? it seems to have frozen [05:09] CD install === Mark_Milliman is now known as Mark_M|Away === Mark_M|Away is now known as Mark_Milliman [05:35] It's amazing how broken Seahorse is [05:35] I don't know why they've put it into Hardy. [05:36] * DanaG doesn't know what Seahorse is used for, anyway. === cwillu_ is now known as cwillu [05:36] DanaG: It's a GnuPG frontend. [05:36] I mean, it would be a really nice program, if it worked. [05:36] The UI is great, but breaks a lot. [05:44] * cwillu was about to suggest launchpad as a better avenue for gripes, but is growing concerned about the number of segv related bugs in a security app :/ [05:47] Does the drawer applet work for anyone? [05:51] Odd: compiz-fusion is acting like I have "Number of Desktops" set to 4... but it's not, [05:52] . I have to go to ccsm and change it from 1 to 2 and back to 1 in order for my taskbar and pager to work properly. [05:53] I deleted my fstab. amazingly, my box still boots. the only reason i figurd it out was wondering why I didn't have any swap. [05:54] it was a default install - can someone post theirs? [05:58] how to "make install" debian way? [06:00] njol: is there a .deb for any version of what you are building ? (what are you building? ) [06:01] CarlFK: my bad, i also should "make" 1st, it is v4l-dvb driver and i guess i should make deb file and then install it [06:01] right. "make a deb" is harder than it sounds [06:02] so I find some thing similar, use the 'config' from that [06:02] I have tried 2 or 3 times to make a .deb from scratch. i gave up [06:03] CarlFK: It depends on what you're making a .deb for... the process can vary widely. [06:03] mmm i see, actually i have seen some simple commands for doing it, but cant find it now, maybe i wrong [06:04] njol: the command is: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -b [06:04] i'll try that [06:04] but it expects a bunch of files in your sources's debiain/ dir [06:04] CarlFK: what? You need a working and configured /debian filesystem for dpkg-buildpackage to work [06:04] ah, yes [06:05] yup. [06:06] njol: don't suppose you can explain to me the difference between v4l and v4l2 drivers ? [06:06] I am working with one, and can't figure out which it is [06:07] sorry i'm not sure [06:07] rats. [06:08] do i required to remove old drivers (btw how to do it if they are part of kernel... modules) or i may just make install new on top of them? [06:10] depends... [06:10] it is best to make a .eb [06:10] it is best to make a .deb [06:15] wtf? can't report bug in pidgin. [06:15] At the very least, it should show ME the backtrace but not allow me to file it, if I have out-of-date packages. [06:15] Otherwise, I can't even figure it out for myself. [06:17] CarlFK: i found/remembered simple command to make debs, its called checkinstall [06:29] DanaG, can you duplicate it? [06:29] I just had a random crash, and I have fontconfig held back, so it wouldn't let me try to file a bug. [06:30] could post it by hand I guess, [06:32] My issue is the other way around: I couldn't even tell what the bug was, because it said "you have old packages" even before it showed a backtrace. [06:34] is there anything I should know about with Hardy before I attempt to install Compiz? [06:34] other than that gutsy and hardy already install compiz with ubuntu-desktop? [06:35] er hmm ok I'm blind then ^^ where would I look for that? [06:35] it should be on by default if the hardware is known to be compatible [06:36] doesn't appear to be, but I know the hardware is compatibly [06:36] compatible [06:36] system | prefs | appearance | [06:36] 'normal desktop effects' [06:36] thank you [06:36] if you want more config, there's a more thorough config package available in the repo [06:37] yeah I saw those I just didnt' see the main package, it being installed might be why ^^ [06:41] ahh nevermind I know why I didnt' have the option, forgot to install the video driver >< [06:42] gotta restart, thanks again for the help === Mark_Milliman is now known as Mark_M|Away [06:44] * DanaG wants his next laptop to have a case skin of that Heron wallpaper. [06:45] That'd be awesome. === Mark_M|Away is now known as Mark_Milliman [06:46] oooo, I haven't even looked at the new theme yet [06:47] No new theme is yet installed; just a new wallpaper. [06:48] Reminds me of these, too: http://h50146.www5.hp.com/products/portables/personal/zen_wallpaper/ [06:48] http://hp.skinit.com/skins/hpmtv_exclusive === azdrubal is now known as asdrubal [07:30] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> s2disk breaks my swap [07:31] That happened to me.... somehow my swap randomly disappeared, and I didn't notice it for about a week, until I noticed a lack of swap activity shown in [07:31] !info wmhdplop [07:31] wmhdplop (source: wmhdplop): A hard drive activity monitor dockapp. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-1 (hardy), package size 28 kB, installed size 124 kB [07:31] Nifty thingy. [07:32] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> DanaG, so does it make ur swap unrecorgnizable ? [07:33] Yeah, when I tried swapon, it said, "can't find swap signature", or something like that. [07:33] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> DanaG, i have to reformat my swap partition and manually change the uuid in fstab to make it mountable [07:33] To fix it, use mkswap on the partition -- but be very very sure you have the right partition! [07:33] I don't use s2disk, usually. [07:34] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> i wanna use s2ram but it's not built with uswsusp [07:35] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> wandering if i can just build suspend by myself [07:36] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> until now, neither hibernate or suspend works for me [07:38] Hmm, suspend works about 2/3 of the time for me; other times it fails to resume. [07:38] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> what kind vcard u have? [07:38] Try mucking around with the VBE and VIDEO options in /etc/default/acpi-support -- but make comments to indicate the defaults. [07:38] GeForce Go 7600. [07:39] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> ok, i will try that, cus im pretty sure when i try to resume from suspend, the x hangs [07:41] You might want to try disabling sync-to-vblank in compiz? [07:41] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> i already disable it [07:42] Fair enough :) [07:42] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> i use both sync to vbank from nvidia settings [07:42] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> but i build the nvidia driver myself, could that be a problem? [07:43] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> DanaG, so i should make save_vbe_state=true in acpi-support? [07:44] I have most of those things set to false. [07:45] Oh yeah, and make sure to comment the defaults so you can restore them! [07:45] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> ya [07:48] <[Gutsy]TuTUXG> DanaG, do i need to restart x to make new acpi-support work? [07:48] Wow, I've been using a blue theme for quite a while, and just switched back to an orange theme, and somehow it's improved my mood! [07:48] Wow! [07:48] I don't think you have to do anything to make it take effect [07:49]