[00:18] <xivulon> are they doing maintenance of LP on a release date????
[00:25] <TheMuso> xivulon: Since the alphas are released on thursday, I don't think its that much of a problem. Most devs are sleeping at this time anyway.
[00:32] <xivulon> Isn't the alpha to be released today?
[00:34] <TheMuso> Yes, but I think its more like late Thursday.
[00:34] <TheMuso> Going on experience.
[00:34] <TheMuso> At the earliest.
[01:01] <xivulon> using latest iso I cannot boot
[01:02] <xivulon> get a complete system freeze at the beginning of the boot process (I assume after chrooting)
[09:57]  * xivulon rant mode on
[09:57] <xivulon> don't think I have ever been able to fully test a real installation with > 48h from release
[09:58] <xivulon> quashfs in gutsy, seed freeze, now yesterday after the ISO finally gets the new stuff, my system canno boot...
[09:59] <xivulon> at 2 a.m. didn't have much strength left to debug
[09:59]  * xivulon rant mode off
[10:01] <xivulon> anyway the issue seems to be in rcS.d during module loading and results on a complete system freeze (amd64 ISO)
[10:01] <xivulon> anyone else experiencing that?
[12:38] <davmor2> The new ubiquity doesn't set the country and keyboard defaults after the world map anymore.  Is this known?
[13:04] <davmor2> Ubiquity is also stopping at 94% configuring hardware....
[13:09] <cjwatson> that always takes a while
[13:09] <cjwatson> it calls update-initramfs which is slow
[13:10] <davmor2> cjwatson: it's been 20 minutes there's no disc activity
[13:10] <cjwatson> what is it doing? end of /var/log/syslog, process tree, etc.
[13:12] <davmor2> cjwatson: pulseaudio failed
[13:12] <davmor2> do you want me to post results to a bug I writing
[13:13] <davmor2> cjwatson: if so do you want the full log?
[13:13] <cjwatson> yes
[13:14] <cjwatson> "pulseaudio failed" does not sound like a literally copied error message
[13:15] <davmor2> cjwatson: no it's my abridged version it's four lines long.  Is ps aux the process tree your on about?
[13:21] <jgonzalez> hi there, I'd like my LVM partitions to be mounted with the acl option on, is there any way to specify this in the preseeding file?
[13:22] <cjwatson> davmor2: ps auxf
[13:23] <cjwatson> jgonzalez: not preseedable at present unfortunately, though you could sed /target/etc/fstab from a late_command
[13:23] <jgonzalez> cjwatson, ok, thanks alot
[13:24] <davmor2> cjwatson: anything else you need I've added full syslog psaux and psauxf.
[13:25] <cjwatson> davmor2: bug number?
[13:25] <davmor2> bug 193986
[13:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 193986 in ubiquity "Ubiquity is locking up at 94% Configuring Hardware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193986
[13:26] <davmor2> cjwatson: let me know if you want any info off the 64bit machine the current info is just the 32 bit install
[13:27] <cjwatson> davmor2: I wonder if this is an effect of Steve's grub changes
[13:27] <cjwatson> Feb 21 12:52:53 ubuntu ubiquity: X_LOADTEMPLATEFILE /var/lib/dpkg/info/ucf.templates ucf
[13:28] <cjwatson> I'll free up some disk space for a VM and try to reproduce
[13:28] <davmor2> no idea not a dev just a tester
[13:28] <cjwatson> understood, I'm just talking out loud
[13:28] <cjwatson> err
[13:28] <cjwatson> thinking out loud :)
[13:29] <davmor2> cjwatson: If you need anything else let me know what and how to get and I'll happily oblige
[13:29] <cjwatson> the only thing I might need is a debug log, but it may be easier for me to try to reproduce it first
[13:29] <cjwatson> or zen-debug it
[13:34] <davmor2> cjwatson: is it just the debug entry in the /var/log ?
[13:35] <cjwatson> davmor2: don't worry about it, I think I know roughly what it is if not yet how to fix it
[13:35] <cjwatson> so I don't think I need anything more from you, thanks
[13:35] <davmor2> np's
[14:06] <evand> cjwatson: I ran into that last night.  Curiously if you explicitly set stdin and stdout to PIPE when calling ucf (at least for the first invocation of it for the paper settings), it works.
[14:09] <cjwatson> I think it's the ucf while reconfiguring linux-image
[14:09] <cjwatson> (via update-grub)
[14:09] <evand> well, it happens twice
[14:10] <evand> once for the paper settings, and then once for grub
[14:11] <cjwatson> ah
[14:11] <davmor2> bug 194007 is for the lack of keyboard setup.
[14:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194007 in ubiquity "Ubiquity keyboard is not being setup after world map." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194007
[14:12] <xivulon> Wouldn't it be possible to have a small editor (other than sed) in the initrd?
[14:12] <xivulon> busybox
[14:12] <cjwatson> evand: in this case, the debconf output is being eaten by log-output rather than either handled in the chroot or else passed through
[14:12] <evand> ah
[14:13] <cjwatson> evand: trying to work out which debconf instance should handle things, though
[14:14] <cjwatson> for a noninteractive reconfiguration, it feels to me as if the chrooted debconf would be better off handling it
[14:14] <evand> seems reasonable
[14:15] <evand> davmor2: odd, looking into it now
[14:16] <davmor2> evand: My set up is for London and it gave me us keyboard
[14:39] <xivulon> davmor2: do you mean that you select a keyboard layout and after installation you and up with a US setup?
[14:39] <xivulon> could that be a duplicate of bug #188492?
[14:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 188492 in wubi "console-setup/layoutcode settings are ignored" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188492
[14:40] <cjwatson> that would be preseeding, which is probably different
[14:40] <cjwatson> though it might of course be related
[14:41] <davmor2> xivulon: No in the older version of ubiquity you first select language then time zone.  The next screen was then for the keyboard which automatically went to english uk and not us
[14:42] <cjwatson> davmor2: that's odd, UK is not the default. What location did you select?
[14:42] <xivulon> ah no then
[14:42] <davmor2> cjwatson: London and english
[14:43] <davmor2> and the keyboard it gave me was US
[14:43] <davmor2> Once I'd selected English UK everything was fine.
[14:44] <davmor2> cjwatson: xivulon:  Would screenshot's help so you know exactly what I'm on about?
[14:45] <evand> davmor2: I follow you and am able to reproduce, so no, I don't think that's necessary
[14:45] <davmor2> okay cool :)
[14:51] <xivulon> davmor2: I wasn't sure if you where talking about an actual installation issue or about the listbox being preset to the correct value
[14:51] <davmor2> np
[14:59] <cjwatson> davmor2: so instead of "automatically went to english uk and not us", you in fact mean "automatically went to english us and not uk"?
[15:49] <davmor2> cjwatson_: back now.  Yes sorry.
[16:23] <cjwatson> evand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/4844/ is the sort of thing I'm thinking fo
[16:23] <cjwatson> of
[16:25] <evand> those weren't already set appropriately?
[16:27] <cjwatson> they're set to passthrough-type values
[16:27] <cjwatson> whereas for noninteractive use something different is probably more appropriate
[16:27] <cjwatson> I'm having a go at reproducing the problem here
[16:29] <evand> ok
[16:53] <davmor2> cjwatson: Is there a fix in place for the ubiquity bugs?  If so will there be another cd uploaded today do you know?
[16:54] <cjwatson> davmor2: no fix yet
[16:54] <cjwatson> I do not know the answer to that question as yet
[16:55] <davmor2> Okay no worries I just won't be around for a lot of tomorrow so wondered if there would be a cd I could test tonight or not.  Thanks for the info anyway :)
[16:56] <cjwatson> yeah, sorry, just can't say yet
[17:26] <evand> hrm, that proposed fix isn't working for me (placed around the call to ucf --purge /etc/papersize as well)
[17:27] <evand> ah, nevermind
[17:28] <evand> I just caught the #ubuntu-release discussion
[17:28] <evand> erm whoops, spoke too soon
[17:28] <cjwatson> heh, yeah, I found out the same thing
[17:29] <cjwatson> did you try out something similar and have it not work?
[17:29] <evand> no -- I don't have close_fds=True
[17:30] <cjwatson> I'm not sure that's all that important, it was just a paranoia measure to stop fds being stolen by daemons
[18:14] <cjwatson> gotcha
[18:15] <CIA-44> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2478 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[18:15] <CIA-44> ubiquity: * Disconnect from ubiquity's debconf emulator when reconfiguring packages
[18:15] <CIA-44> ubiquity:  and when running ucf; recognise X_LOADTEMPLATEFILE as a valid debconf
[18:15] <CIA-44> ubiquity:  command (LP: #193986).
[18:15] <cjwatson> evand: could you take care of uploading that? I have to go out, I'm afraid
[18:16] <evand> of course
[18:16] <evand> on it now
[18:17] <cjwatson> thanks
[18:18] <evand> you're welcome
[19:27] <CIA-44> ubiquity: evand * r2480 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.7.10
[20:30] <bdmurray> evand: I'm thinking about revisiting ubiquity bugs on the 26th will that work for you?
[20:31] <evand> bdmurray: for a hug day?
[20:31] <bdmurray> evand: right, sorry for not being clearer
[20:32] <evand> quite ok, I assumed so, I just wanted to be sure
[20:32] <evand> yes that works well for me
[20:33] <bdmurray> evand: okay great!
[22:23] <xivulon2> with latest build I can only boot when I disable acpi AND usplash
[22:23] <xivulon2> any hint welcome
[22:23] <xivulon2> it james in init.d/udev
[22:24] <xivulon2> the acpi issue has always biten me, but strangely enough that would usually create problems in the early stages only
[22:42] <evand> new CDs are up
[22:49] <xivulon2> loading
[23:30] <xivulo1> evand at the end it goes to shell and asks to remove cd and reboot
[23:31] <xivulo1> not sure why it does that
[23:32] <xivulo1> grub-installer works well on partitions > 1 :)
[23:33] <xivulo1> minor things: the title of the progress dialog in automatic mode is almost always 'Checking installation'
[23:33] <xivulo1> the welcome sound is played twice during installation
[23:34] <xivulo1> i am in wubi now :D :D
[23:36] <xivulo1> thanks evand!