[00:48] <zul> rtg: ping
[03:11] <tquocvu_> anyone dig memory management in kernel ?
[06:34] <bullgard4> What programs use or evaluate the contents of the file /var/log/udev?
[09:48] <kraut> moin
[10:17] <xivulon> Hi all
[10:17] <xivulon> last daily build amd64 ISO, hangs my system during module loading in rcS.d
[10:18] <xivulon> was very late yesterday night when that happened and didn't do much debugging
[10:18] <xivulon> will be able to provide more info tonight
[10:18] <xivulon> that was on a samsung q45
[10:20] <xivulon> I guess 2.6.24.8.8
[12:03] <gan> hai how to find out the difference between the two kernel version , it means by feature or something else
[12:35] <gouki> 'morning
[13:00] <gouki> Can someone please explain how is a kernel in .ISO format? http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/1/499 And how could I compile it (if it's possible at all)
[13:05] <mjg59> You don't
[13:14] <gouki> I don't compile it?
[13:16] <mjg59> It's an iso with a kernel on, not a kernel in iso format
[13:16] <gouki> So extracting and compiling will work? The .ISO part got me confused. Since most times, .ISO are used for burnable images.
[13:17] <mjg59> Uhm.
[13:17] <mjg59> That is a burnable image.
[13:17] <mjg59> For a PS3
[13:17] <mjg59> What are you actually trying to do?
[13:18] <gouki> I'm wanted to try this new kernel on the PS3
[13:18] <mjg59> (And why are you asking here?)
[13:19] <gouki> ok mjg59, I won't bother you again. I was discussing this with Collin and he told me this was the correct place.
[13:19] <mjg59> Well, it's not an Ubuntu kernel :)
[13:19] <gouki> After all, it's a problem with the current linux kernel that is making ubuntu not recognizing the wifi interface on the ps3
[13:20] <mjg59> That would suggest that we need the new wifi driver in our kernel
[13:20] <gouki> Yes. Collin mentioned BenC was aware of this.
[13:21] <mjg59> Ok. It'll probably be dealt with, then
[13:21] <gouki> s/collin/colin
[13:22] <gouki> From what I've heard, 8.04 will not have support for the PS3. So would this be done in 7.10?
[13:22] <mjg59> No
[13:22] <mjg59> At least, it's very unlikely
[13:23] <gouki> If it won't be dealt for 7.10 and currently no one is working in Linux Cell for 8.04, support for the PS3 will end. 
[13:23] <gouki> That's why I was asking about this kernel version
[13:23] <gouki> At least people would have a working version of ubuntu running on their ps3
[13:23] <mjg59> I still don't really understand what you're trying to do
[13:24] <gouki> Understand how could I use that kernel version to provide Wifi support for the PS3
[13:24] <gouki> Now, like I told you, the ISO part got me confused. 
[13:24] <mjg59> That's not a link to a kernel. That's a link to a boot CD for the PS3.
[13:24] <gouki> Even more confused about it being a burnable image :)
[13:25] <gouki> Ohh, OK. I see.
[13:25] <mjg59> One of the files it contains is a kernel
[13:25] <mjg59> Like the Ubuntu images
[13:26] <gouki> Ok; Thank you.
[14:00] <xivulon> mjg59, are you in charge of pm-utils?
[14:00] <mjg59> In Ubuntu? Yes
[14:01] <xivulon> we used to have some code in pmi.acpi to disable suspend to ram/disk in loopinstallations
[14:02] <mjg59> Hm. Is that not still there?
[14:02] <xivulon> I looked at it a week or two ago' and wasn't there
[14:02] <xivulon> I mean it is in pmi.acpi but not in pm-utils
[14:04] <xivulon> in short in loopinstallations under hardy the suspend/hibernate buttons are enabled when they shouldn't be
[14:04] <mjg59> Ah, right - and we're calling pm-utils directly, rather than going via pmi
[14:04] <mjg59> Ok
[14:04] <xivulon> grep host pmi.acpi
[14:05] <xivulon> to find the relevant code chunks
[14:05] <xivulon> thanks a lot
[14:15] <xivulon> mjg59 bug #187463 
[14:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187463 in wubi "Disable suspend (ram/disk) in Loopinstallations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187463
[14:27] <mjg59> Ok
[14:28] <Kano> hi rtg , could you update aufs?
[16:14] <amitk> mjg59: is there a standard keycode to trigger rfkill? KEY_WLAN perhaps?
[16:14] <mjg59> amitk: KEY_WLAN is the correct one. I can't remember if you need to perform some association in the kernel, though
[16:17] <amitk> mjg59: so if a device doesn't have a slider/switch to kill the radios, then the Fn+FXX combo to kill the radios should just generate KEY_WLAN (using setkeycodes), right?
[16:17] <amitk> s/device/laptop
[16:19] <mjg59> Right
[17:46] <lkolbe> Hi! I'm currently building a kernel for feisty from the  official git repository plus one or two local patches; and I'd like to use ccache. Building occurs in a feisty chroot, with debuild. How can I tell debuild to use ccache?
[19:14] <macd> lkolbe, its a bit easier to use ccache with pbuilder
[19:14] <macd> lkolbe,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto   
[21:41] <Keybuk> mjg59: fprint > thinkfinger, right?
[22:23] <jayc> amitk:ping
[22:26] <amitk> jayc: hi
[22:27] <jayc> amitk: I successfully built the hardy-ume and lum on my local machine and tried it on D0, but PPA build fails, can I push the changes to git?
[22:29] <amitk> jayc: feel free to push it to the ume-hardy and ume-hardy-lum git trees, but don't upload anything to mobile PPA.
[22:30] <amitk> jayc: early next week (25th) is a deadline to send a tested image to Intel, so I don't want to upload new stuff until then.
[22:30] <jayc> amitk:ok, I will push the kernel stuff and inuka is working on the lum to add beta7 Gfx driver
[22:31] <amitk> jayc: something in the PPA is broken for us too. We see the error you are seeing. It will be investigated.
[22:31] <jayc> amitk: so, you don't want me to upload these changes to PPA until 25th?
[22:33] <amitk> jayc: that is correct. I will be in Boston next week, so we can coordinate an upload since kernel, lum, lrm, meta and poulsbo X driver need to be co-ordinated.
[22:34] <jayc> amitk: ok, does Mauri know about this, if not I will inform her
[22:35] <amitk> jayc: go ahead and inform her if you need to.
[22:35] <jayc> amitk:ok, thanks
[22:39] <amitk> jayc: np, how is portland weather these days?
[22:40] <jayc> amitk:it's been very since last weekend
[22:40] <amitk> good to hear
[22:41] <jayc> amithk:that's a rare thing here :-)
[22:42] <amitk> hehe
[22:43] <jayc> amitk:How about there, is it back to normal (below zero)?
[22:43] <amitk> jayc: it's only been real cold one day since I got back (-10), rest of the time it has been -1 to +4
[22:44] <amitk> I gotta go and try catch some sleep now
[22:44] <amitk> good night
[22:44] <jayc> amitk:good night