[09:13] <asac> bug 192906
[09:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192906 in firefox-3.0 "use gnome's HTML icon for pages without a favicon" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192906
[09:36] <[reed]> [03:35:30AM] <[reed]> monreal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/192906 <-- agree, disagree?
[09:36] <[reed]> [03:36:05AM] <monreal> [reed]: disagree... it's not possible anyway
[09:36] <[reed]> [03:36:20AM] <monreal> we cannot depend on icons from gnome icon theme
[09:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192906 in firefox-3.0 "use gnome's HTML icon for pages without a favicon" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[09:36] <[reed]> there you go
[09:37] <asac> [reed]: we can have a fallback?
[09:37] <[reed]> I don't think that's possible yet
[09:37] <[reed]> due to how stock icons work
[09:37] <[reed]> hmm
[09:37] <[reed]> but maybe
[09:38] <asac> maybe currenty the icon is hard coded, but why can't one use gnomestrip mechanism for it?
[09:39] <[reed]> [03:37:01AM] <monreal> [reed]: but we will probably have to redo and include a similar icon
[09:39] <[reed]> yeah, so we can include it directly
[09:39] <[reed]> as part of gnomestripe
[09:39] <[reed]> just can't use a stock icon
[09:39] <[reed]> via libpr0n
[09:39] <[reed]> and moz-icon://
[09:42] <asac> [reed]: why can't we use moz-icon?
[09:42] <asac> does it just work for gtk stock icons?
[09:43] <[reed]> it works for gnome icons, too, but we don't require that the user have gnome installed, so we can't depend on those always being available
[09:43] <asac> [reed]: yes, but thats the case for other icons as well afaik
[09:43] <asac> in beta 2 it falled back to the winstripe theme afaict
[09:43] <[reed]> ?
[09:43] <[reed]> no
[09:43] <[reed]> there's no fallback mechanism in place
[09:44] <[reed]> for moz-icon
[09:44] <[reed]> it will just fail
[09:44] <asac> hmm ... wierd. so how does it work on kde?
[09:44] <asac> i think on kde we still see the "old" icons
[09:45] <[reed]> really?
[09:45] <[reed]> I don't think so
[09:45] <[reed]> I don't see how that's possible ;)
[09:45] <asac> it falls back to winstripe if gnomeui isn't installed ;)
[09:45] <asac> but i think i should verify that again
[09:46] <[reed]> please do
[09:46] <[reed]> heh
[09:55] <asac> Ubulette: ^^^
[10:06] <asac> darn i have a ubuntu developer week classroom session in 6 hours or so
[10:06] <asac> @time
[10:06] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: February 21 2008, 10:06:40 - Next meeting: Desktop Team in 3 hours 53 minutes
[10:06] <asac> completely forgot
[10:06] <asac> ;)
[10:08] <[reed]> what is that?
[10:09] <asac> [reed]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[10:10] <[reed]> ah
[10:10] <[reed]> cool
[10:13] <[reed]> asac: sounds easy
[10:13] <[reed]> you'll do fine
[10:13] <[reed]> :)
[10:14] <asac> haha
[10:14] <asac> my problem is that i don't really know what to expect
[10:14] <asac> how many will come? will they ask questions? or should i just teach
[10:14] <asac> how to present my knowledge in a chat room :)
[10:14] <[reed]> hehe
[11:16] <asac> Ubulette: there?
[11:16] <asac> Ubulette: what do you think about the xpi.mk i recently added
[11:16] <asac> to mozilla-devscripts
[11:32] <armin76> bad
[12:37] <asac> Ubulette: i will upload new mozilla-devscripts to mozillateam ppa (appending ~mt1) as i want it in todays ffox 2 extension packaging session
[12:37] <asac> Ubulette: please veto in the next 20 minutes if you want to do a prerelease to your ppa
[12:37] <asac> (i have just committed more on top of your last fix for xpi.mk"
[12:37] <asac> )
[12:40] <asac> Ubulette: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox-extensions/XPI.TEMPLATE
[13:51] <asac> Ubulette: ok from my side we are now ready for release of mozilla-devscripts
[13:52] <asac> we should use the card blanche to justify this ff exception breakage
[13:52] <asac> lets wait till weekend with upload i would say
[13:52] <asac> i uploaded to my ppa now
[13:53] <asac> Ubulette: i have drafted https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions/Packaging ... maybe take a look if its at least a bit comprehensible
[13:58] <asac> @time
[13:58] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: February 21 2008, 13:58:21 - Current meeting: Desktop Team
[15:13] <asac> bug 432322
[15:13] <asac> debian bug 432322
[15:13] <ubotu> Debian bug 432322 in network-manager "network-manager: package upgrade kills network connections every time" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/432322
[15:30] <armin76> @time
[15:30] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: February 21 2008, 15:30:41 - Next meeting: Community Council in 4 hours 29 minutes
[15:55] <asac> @time
[15:55] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: February 21 2008, 15:55:27 - Next meeting: Community Council in 4 hours 4 minutes
[17:00] <jetsaredim> asac: I think adding firebug and mouse gestures extensions would be great
[17:01] <asac> jetsaredim: yep ... the procedure is simple. add the extension to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions
[17:01] <jetsaredim> is it standard procedure to contact the maintainers first before going about this
[17:01] <asac> and gather the required information. then you can adopt that extension if you want and package it like just taught
[17:01] <asac> jetsaredim: if there is an obvious good contact available, its not required
[17:02] <asac> point is that we want to know how to contact them ... so if they don't have an active mailing list at least verifying that they reply would be good
[17:02] <asac> for the most popular extesnions that are frequently updated, we most likely don't need that
[17:02] <asac> just fill in the contact you find
[17:03] <asac> jetsaredim: if you want an extension to be sponsored, please try to use the procedure https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions/Packaging
[17:03] <asac> if there are problems i am alwayshere to help!
[17:03] <asac> (well not always, but usually)
[17:03] <jetsaredim> ok
[17:03] <jetsaredim> heh
[17:04] <asac> db-keen: phoenix24: kyleN: did you manage to finish the second practice round?
[17:04] <phoenix24> Yes!
[17:04] <asac> if you manage to create a launchpad branch, just let me know, i can review it then
[17:04] <asac> :)
[17:04] <kyleN> asac. in unbuntu mobile weekly meeting, enjoyed what I saw of your talk though.
[17:04] <phoenix24> ok!
[17:05] <asac> kyleN: thanks!
[17:06] <phoenix24> asac: could we target any extensions.. ranging to all those existing ?
[17:07] <asac> yes ... i would like to get 100 extensions for hardy :) ... which is of course too high a goal to reach for hardy
[17:07] <asac> but you get the point
[17:07] <asac> but we should definitly try to cover all most important ones
[17:07] <asac> a good start is: the top 50 projects on mozdev:
[17:07] <asac> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/top50.html
[17:07] <asac> (not all are extensions, but at least mozdev projects usually have a CVS and a license :))
[17:08] <asac> or the top list of addons.mozilla.org
[17:08] <asac> but careful: on addons.mozilla.org its not given that the extensions have a free license
[17:09] <phoenix24> thanks a lot! looking forward to it!
[17:09] <asac> if we cannot find how things are licensed we should go on or if we consider the extension important enough ask the developers
[17:09] <asac> phoenix24: me too ;)
[17:10] <armin76> ricer :P
[17:20] <phoenix24> Can I get the Firefox3 source code from the launchpad itself ?
[17:21] <asac> phoenix24: unforatuntely not yet
[17:23] <asac> phoenix24: well the packaging code is in launchpad
[17:27] <phoenix24> ah! yes
[17:27] <asac> i will be out travelling for ~3 hours from now. maybe ask Ubulette_ if he is available(not sure) in the meantime.
[17:27] <asac> he should know all about firefox-3 and xulrunner-1.9 packaging ;)
[17:29]  * asac off for a while
[17:30] <phoenix24> later asac!
[18:48] <Ubulette> hi
[18:48] <Ubulette> asac, got my email ?
[18:58] <[reed]> asac / Ubulette: system sqlite3 coming up today
[18:58] <[reed]> :)
[19:00] <Ubulette> nice
[19:10] <Ubulette> [reed], bug id ?
[19:10] <[reed]> mozilla bug 263381
[19:11] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 263381 in Storage "support --with-system-sqlite3 in storage builds" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263381
[19:13] <Ubulette> [reed], you can subscribe me to those kind of bugs. don't hesitate :)
[19:13] <[reed]> hehe
[19:13] <[reed]> k
[19:43] <armin76> :(
[19:43] <armin76> [reed]: why don't you like me? :P
[19:43] <[reed]> armin76: sad?
[19:43] <[reed]> lol
[19:43] <[reed]> well, I can cc you, too!
[19:43] <armin76> you never poke me about that cool stuff! :P
[19:43] <Ubulette> armin76, do you package trunk ?
[19:44] <armin76> yeah
[19:44] <armin76> when the betas are older yes
[19:44] <armin76> or when some bug gets fixed
[19:44] <Ubulette> oh, ok. thought you only do releases
[19:46] <Yasumoto> heya asac, just wanted to let you know that I read through the transcript of your talk, and it was really helpful
[19:47] <Yasumoto> I'm going to give it a try later today, so I'll let you know how everything goes
[20:13] <Ubulette> Yasumoto, great. Which extension(s) do you plan to do ?
[20:27] <jetsaredim> I'd like to work on getting the firebug extension updated
[20:27] <jetsaredim> should I just add the entry to the FF3Extensions page?
[20:28] <Ubulette> yes, it's a start :)
[20:31] <jetsaredim> i don't have one of those nifty @ubuntu.com email addresses, but whatever
[20:48] <jetsaredim> can someone explain how to do the bzr push described in the tutorial?
[20:51] <Ubulette> sure. is your local bzr branch ready ?
[20:51] <Yasumoto> Ubulette: probably things like google reader notifier, fireftp
[20:51] <Yasumoto> a few other cool ones (I'll have to find out once I see what's in the repos already)
[20:52] <jetsaredim> Ubulette: no - just doing the initial import of upstream
[20:53] <Ubulette> Yasumoto, start with one, then move on. btw, if you do google reader notifier, would be nice to have it working for prism too
[20:54] <jetsaredim> Ubulette: basically I think I need to set my launchpad login info somewhere so that it doesn't try to use my linux username
[20:54] <Ubulette> jetsaredim, if you've committed that initial release, it's already possible to push it.
[20:54] <Ubulette> bzr push bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~$LAUNCHPAD_ID/firefox-extensions/$EXTENSIONNAME.ubuntu
[20:55] <Ubulette> in my case, it would be:
[20:55] <jetsaredim> bzr push bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jetsaredim/firefox-extensions/firebug.upstream
[20:55] <Ubulette> yes
[20:55] <Ubulette> does it work
[20:55] <Ubulette> ?
[20:56] <jetsaredim> fai
[20:56] <jetsaredim> l
[20:56] <jetsaredim> http://dpaste.com/36326/
[20:57] <Ubulette> do you have a launchpad account ?
[20:57] <jetsaredim> yea
[20:57] <jetsaredim> https://edge.launchpad.net/~jetsaredim
[20:57] <jetsaredim> should I change my handle to match my linux login
[20:59] <Ubulette> try with: bzr push bzr+ssh://jetsaredim@bazaar.launchpad.net/~jetsaredim/firefox-extensions/firebug.upstream
[21:00] <jetsaredim> its thinking about it
[21:00] <jetsaredim> yay
[21:00] <jetsaredim> workie
[21:01] <Ubulette> good. the tutorial needs to be fixed
[21:01] <jetsaredim> you want I should fix it?
[21:01] <jetsaredim> bzr push bzr+ssh://$LAUNCHPAD_ID@bazaar.launchpad.net/~$LAUNCHPAD_ID/firefox-extensions/$EXTENSIONNAME.upstream
[21:02] <Ubulette> just did it
[21:02] <jetsaredim> all of the other commands seem to work fine
[21:02] <jetsaredim> i had the edit lock - but you can try again now tho
[21:02] <jetsaredim> :)
[21:02] <jetsaredim> there
[21:03] <Ubulette> ok
[21:04] <Ubulette> we also need to add the version of each license. that's kind of mandatory now
[21:04] <Ubulette> i'll discuss that with asac when he's back
[21:08] <jetsaredim> do I need to wrap the long description part of the control file to 80 cols?
[21:08] <Ubulette> yes
[21:09] <Ubulette> and add a space after each newline
[21:12] <Ubulette> [reed], do you plan to commit the system sqlite3 patch today ?
[21:12] <[reed]> yes
[21:16] <jetsaredim> is there an example of a copyright file that I can take a look at?
[21:16] <jetsaredim> er debian/copyright
[21:17] <Ubulette> take an extension already in
[21:19] <Ubulette> for ex mozilla-noscript
[21:20] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4875/
[21:34] <jetsaredim> Ubulette: ok - i uploaded the code with the debian dir added
[21:34] <jetsaredim> but I seem to be having a build problem
[21:36] <Ubulette> logs ?
[21:36] <jetsaredim> err - lemmie dpaste
[21:37] <jetsaredim> http://dpaste.com/36336/
[21:38] <jetsaredim> err you can ignore the junk at the top
[21:38] <jetsaredim> I had uncommented the MOZ_XPI_FILE in rules
[21:38] <jetsaredim> maybe that was not a good idea
[21:39] <jetsaredim> (get a different build error with MOZ_XPI_FILE commented out)
[21:42] <jetsaredim> maybe because the actual build of the xpi is copying the resultant xpi file to the dist directory
[21:44] <Ubulette> is firebug.xpi built somewhere ?
[21:44] <jetsaredim> i think I need to comment that out
[21:44] <jetsaredim> cause what is happening is that the build of the xpi is copying the xpi to dist
[21:44] <jetsaredim> and the xpi is actually called firebug-1.1.0b12.zpi
[21:44] <jetsaredim> err xpi
[21:45] <Ubulette> well, the result is supposed to be firebug.xpi according to the makexpi script
[21:45] <jetsaredim> hmm
[21:49] <jetsaredim> ok - i fixed the name part
[21:49] <jetsaredim> but still - its not finding the xpi in the dist dir
[21:50] <Ubulette> hold on, i'll try in a few minutes (i'm finishing something)
[21:50] <jetsaredim> i think i'm figuring out how to modify the build.xml ant file
[21:52] <jetsaredim> err
[21:52] <jetsaredim> also
[21:52] <jetsaredim> shouldn't this package be called mozilla-firefox-firebug?
[21:53] <Ubulette> no
[21:53] <Ubulette> we've stopped that
[21:53] <jetsaredim> ok - just going by the adblock thingie
[21:53] <jetsaredim> do you know if its possible to sign a gpg key with more than one email address?
[21:54] <Ubulette> in debian/changelog, you need to change the package name too
[21:54] <jetsaredim> yea - just fixed that too
[21:54] <Ubulette> and the version
[21:54] <jetsaredim> yep
[21:54] <Ubulette> and your name/email ;)
[21:54] <jetsaredim> i just got it working except for signing it
[21:56] <jetsaredim> lemmie commit it
[21:57] <jetsaredim> ok - committed
[21:57] <jetsaredim> i just have to figure out how to sign it
[21:59] <Ubulette> sign it ?
[22:00] <Ubulette> btw, it seems you've added the svn dirs in the bzr source branch, you shouldn't
[22:01] <jetsaredim> ?
[22:01] <jetsaredim> ah
[22:02] <jetsaredim> good call
[22:02] <jetsaredim> done
[22:03] <Ubulette> please check your xpi with unzip -v *.xpi for unwanted files
[22:05] <jetsaredim> http://dpaste.com/36343/
[22:05] <jetsaredim> (looks good to me)
[22:05] <Ubulette> yes
[22:06] <jetsaredim> so, now what?
[22:08] <Ubulette> run lintian on the .changes file
[22:10] <jetsaredim> bunch of "in the future" messages
[22:12] <Ubulette> it should be silent
[22:13] <jetsaredim> what about the release name in the changelog - should I just put hardy or something
[22:16] <Ubulette> hardy instead of UNRELEASED
[22:16] <jetsaredim> how do i update that changes file so that these get cleared
[22:16] <Ubulette> rebuild
[22:18] <jetsaredim> E: firebug_1.1.0b12_i386.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file hardy
[22:18] <jetsaredim> ?
[22:20] <Ubulette> your lintian doesn't know hardy ? hm, ok, doesn't matter
[22:21] <Ubulette> btw, don't use 1.0b12
[22:21] <Ubulette> use 1.0~b12
[22:21] <Ubulette> because 1.0b12 > 1.0
[22:21] <jetsaredim> um - was just using the version from upstream
[22:21] <jetsaredim> ah
[22:21] <jetsaredim> good point
[22:21] <Ubulette> while 1.0~b12 < 1.0
[22:22] <Ubulette> i mean use 1.1.0~b12
[22:22] <jetsaredim> right
[22:23] <asac> jetsaredim: back
[22:24] <jetsaredim> um hi
[22:24] <asac> Yasumoto: great
[22:25] <asac> hi
[22:25] <Ubulette> asac, hi
[22:25] <jetsaredim> still getting the same lintian errors
[22:26] <Ubulette> paste
[22:26] <jetsaredim> http://dpaste.com/36348/
[22:26] <asac> Ubulette: hey. read your mail
[22:26] <asac> Ubulette: is the altest version ok? or do you have more suggestsions?
[22:27] <Ubulette> asac, for sure, you need to update the README file, it's the doc :P
[22:27] <asac> jetsaredim: the distribution thing doesn't matter
[22:27] <asac> what version do you have?
[22:27] <asac> afaik, lintian will only complain about hardy if you don't use an ubuntu package revision.
[22:27] <asac> e.g. instead of 1.0-1 use 1.0-0ubuntu1
[22:28] <asac> i think that should fix the lintian error
[22:28] <jetsaredim> o ok
[22:28] <Ubulette> oh, yeah, forgot that :P
[22:28] <Ubulette> go for 1.1.0~b12-0ubuntu1
[22:28] <jetsaredim> so - i should change it to 1.1.0-b12ubuntu1
[22:28] <Ubulette> nope
[22:29] <asac> jetsaredim: use Ubulette's suggestion (if its a preview release of 1.0)
[22:29] <asac> is that a beta? or is that a release that happened after 1.1.0? like a 12th build?
[22:29] <Ubulette> 1.1.0~b12-0ubuntu1  as in 1.1.0~b12 from upstream and 0ubuntu1 as debian/ubuntu revision
[22:29] <asac> Ubulette: depends on what b means ;) ... haven't read the backlog
[22:29] <jetsaredim> yea got it
[22:30] <asac> if its 1.1.0 build 12 then 1.1.0+b12-0ubuntu1 would be good as well
[22:30] <jetsaredim> not sure
[22:30] <jetsaredim> i think its beta
[22:30] <Ubulette> i assumed b = beta but i didn't check
[22:30] <jetsaredim> damn - gotta go have dinner
[22:31] <jetsaredim> you guys on later?
[22:31] <asac> jetsaredim: ok if its beta then use tilde
[22:31] <asac> jetsaredim: most likely ;)
[22:31] <asac> but not sure
[22:31] <asac> Ubulette: yes i need to fix README
[22:31] <jetsaredim> wait - so 1.1.0~b12-0ubuntu1
[22:31] <Ubulette> same here, i'm tired. I'll be there tomorrow
[22:31] <asac> Ubulette: i just forgt
[22:31] <asac> jetsaredim: yes
[22:33] <Ubulette> asac, is it still possible to have cairo 1.5.10 in hardy or is it too late ?
[22:33] <asac> Ubulette: we will get 1.6 final in the end
[22:34] <Ubulette> hopefully
[22:34] <asac> Ubulette: sync with seb ... otherwise you will be unhappy again ;) ... ask him if he has other patches to apply
[22:34] <jetsaredim> ok - still a bunch of those date errors from lintian, but all in all ok
[22:34] <asac> jetsaredim: you can fix the dates by running
[22:34] <asac> dch -r
[22:34] <asac> right before release
[22:34] <asac> that will update the date to _now_
[22:35] <jetsaredim> er ok
[22:35] <jetsaredim> so those can be ignored for now?
[22:35] <asac> and will replace the changelog entry name+mail with what you have setup
[22:35] <Ubulette> those dates come from a tar made on a different box either with a drifted clock or from a different timezome
[22:35] <Ubulette> timezone
[22:35] <asac> ah ok
[22:35] <jetsaredim> ok - i have to run - i'll check back later tonight or tomorrow
[22:35] <asac> unless the server is completely off you can most likely just wait a few hours to disappear
[22:35] <Ubulette> i'd say you can ignore those
[22:36] <Ubulette> jetsaredim, try the same with linda instead of lintian
[22:37] <Ubulette> usually, you'd want to make both happy if possible
[22:37] <asac> Ubulette: i scrolled up and saw that you found an error on the Packaging page
[22:37] <asac> ?
[22:37] <Ubulette> yes, the bzr push. you forgot the user@ part
[22:38] <Ubulette> without it, it fails if the local login is not the same as the lp login
[22:38] <asac> right
[22:38] <asac> have you fixed it?
[22:38] <Ubulette> yes
[22:39] <asac> great!
[22:41] <Ubulette> you should also update the license part. you must specify versions now
[22:42] <Ubulette> GPL is no longer enough
[22:46] <jetsaredim> asac: linda reports no errors
[22:47] <Ubulette> so it sounds good :)
[22:47] <Ubulette> and does it work ?
[22:47] <jetsaredim> that would be a good test, wouldn't it
[22:48] <jetsaredim> i gotta uninstall it from my browser
[22:48] <jetsaredim> maybe I'll try that ppa setup so i can install it from there
[22:49] <Ubulette> just dpkg -i the deb you've produced
[22:50] <Ubulette> asac, you should make the addons.m.o ids real urls instead of just numbers. (in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions)
[22:53] <Ubulette> doing it
[22:53] <jetsaredim> Ubulette: install works, but in the addons dialog the version number is listed as 1.1.0b11
[22:53] <jetsaredim> not sure what it was before
[22:54] <asac> jetsaredim: thats ok ... the addons dialog shows a version that upstream used. mozilla has adifferent versioning scheme
[22:54] <asac> then ubuntu. thus the difference
[22:54] <asac> s/then/than/
[22:54] <Ubulette> install.rdf says 1.1.0b11 so it matches
[22:54] <jetsaredim> right - but should the ubuntu pkg match the version displayed in the addons dialog
[22:54] <jetsaredim> ok
[22:54] <Ubulette> but it's weird IMHO
[22:55] <jetsaredim> the version number in the build is b12
[22:55] <jetsaredim> meaning when you build the unmodified source it names the xpi as firebug-1.1.0b12
[22:56] <asac> jetsaredim: so whats the package version (in changelog) and what is the version displayed in addons dialog?
[22:56] <Ubulette> b12 and b11
[22:57] <jetsaredim> respectively
[23:01] <asac> jetsaredim: do you have firebug installed in your profile?
[23:01] <asac> is "uninstall" button enabled in addons dialog?
[23:01] <asac> if so uninstall ;)
[23:01] <asac> otherwise you won'T see the global package. the user profile wins afaik
[23:01] <jetsaredim> i had it installed
[23:01] <asac> regarless of version order
[23:01] <jetsaredim> and uninstalled it
[23:01] <asac> so you cannot "uninstall" now?
[23:01] <jetsaredim> then i installed the deb
[23:01] <asac> yeah
[23:01] <jetsaredim> but that didn't allow for uninstall
[23:02] <asac> and now there is still the wrong version?
[23:02] <asac> yes thats correct
[23:02] <Ubulette> asac, that's expected, in the xpi, install.rdf says b11
[23:02] <asac> yes thats right then
[23:03] <asac> so why did you use b12 as package namein first place?
[23:03] <Ubulette> only debian/changelogs says it's b12
[23:03] <asac> jetsaredim: ^^^
[23:03] <asac> ?
[23:04] <Ubulette> it looks like it's the svn tree so maybe upstream bump install.rdf at release time
[23:04] <Ubulette> (pure speculation)
[23:05] <asac> oh ... good bye ;)
[23:06] <Ubulette> asac, could we have an extension wish list in the wiki ?
[23:06] <asac> Ubulette: i thought Firefox3Extensions page should be a good start. those that don't have the ubuntu contact can be considered a wish
[23:07] <asac> what do you think?
[23:07] <asac> i would like wishlist people to at least dig the most important info bug
[23:07] <asac> s/bug/up/
[23:08] <asac> Ubulette: we could also just ask them to fill in the data on that page and file a bug against the firefox-extensions project
[23:09] <asac> ideas?
[23:09] <Ubulette> I'd go for the wiki
[23:10] <asac> just wiki? bugs can be better used for discussion
[23:10] <asac> or doesn't that matter in practice?
[23:10] <asac> i mean we could ack ready packages directly in the bug and initial package upload could close that bug
[23:11] <Ubulette> with bugs, we get emails (tons of), with wiki,nada
[23:11] <asac> hehe
[23:11] <asac> does it make a difference?
[23:11] <asac> if you don't want emails just sort them to =most-rarely-read :)
[23:11] <Ubulette> wiki only could be easily missed
[23:12] <asac> right. and we probably want a bug anyway ... first[needs packaging] ... then [sponsoring]
[23:13] <asac> the main idea about the wiki page for me was to have most important information compressed on one page
[23:13] <asac> would could add another row for a tracking bug
[23:13] <asac> if you have a wish, you just add the [needs packaging] bug
[23:14] <asac> if you want to package you add a "package intent" bug that becomes a "needs sponsor" bug once you have finished your work
[23:15] <asac> no idea if thats too much overhead
[23:15] <asac> and might distract from the real task ;)
[23:16] <asac> jetsaredim: welcome back :)
[23:16] <asac> damn netsplit
[23:17] <jetsaredim> i will have to reinstall the original package to check that the version mismatch was there originally
[23:17] <jetsaredim> ok - reinstalled the original and the addons dialog says b12
[23:17] <jetsaredim> only thing i can think of is that the source tree is not updated
[23:17] <jetsaredim> i can just patch the install.rdf file
[23:18] <asac> jetsaredim: what is the original package?
[23:18] <jetsaredim> the other possibility is that the version being served up is different than the source tree
[23:18] <asac> (sorry, i lack some context here i guess)
[23:21] <Ubulette> gone
[23:21] <Ubulette> maybe i'd do rikaichan that I use a lot: http://www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan/
[23:23] <Ubulette> i like jsview too
[23:24] <asac> go ahead we have a general ff exception for extensions :)
[23:24] <Ubulette> web developper too but the author still doesn't want to release his ff3 compatible code
[23:24] <Ubulette> fullerscreen is good too
[23:24] <asac> bug 193225
[23:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 193225 in firefox-3.0 "FF: general exception for firefox 3 extension packages signed off by the mozillateam" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193225
[23:25] <asac> Ubulette: if the license fits ... anything can go in
[23:25] <asac> if you want more exciting packages, look out for extensions with native components
[23:27] <asac> damn thing
[23:27] <asac> look at the last message in Bug 144042
[23:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 144042 in ubufox "firefox plugin-install says "plugin installed" for non-completed installation" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144042
[23:28] <asac> since when are bugs a support medium to get answers to whatever you like ;)
[23:28] <Ubulette> lol
[23:29] <asac> look how he inlined my mail ;)
[23:29] <asac> :-P
[23:29] <asac> like 1 word per line. yeah!
[23:30] <asac> at least the mailer honoured the reply-to header. what an achievement
[23:30] <asac> really
[23:30] <asac> could be worse ;)
[23:30] <Ubulette> outlook effect
[23:30] <Ubulette> btw, i've packaged tb3
[23:30] <Ubulette> well, sort of
[23:31] <Ubulette> it builds fine in dist but make install doesn't work
[23:41] <jetsaredim> asac: re original package - firebug - www.getfirebug.com
[23:46] <asac> Ubulette: in-house router was down
[23:47] <asac> jetsaredim: i don't see any b12 nor b11 on that page. where exactly?
 btw, i've packaged tb3
 well, sort of
 it builds fine in dist but make install doesn't work
[23:48] <asac> Ubulette: yeah ... i got that ;)
[23:48] <asac> my irssi runs in front of that
[23:48] <asac> ;)
[23:48] <Ubulette> that was it
[23:48] <asac> yeah make install broken was expected
[23:49] <asac> they will never get it right
[23:49] <asac> tbird devs even less
[23:49] <asac> does mail/ have its own packages-static?
[23:50] <jetsaredim> asac: http://www.getfirebug.com/releases/allReleases.html
[23:52] <asac> jetsaredim: but install.rdf is b12 as well in there
[23:52] <asac> so all looks fine for me
[23:52] <asac> whats your problem now?
[23:52] <jetsaredim> i was basing the package off the source tree
[23:53] <jetsaredim> which lists b11
[23:53] <asac> where is that?
[23:53] <asac> a "firebug source"
[23:53] <jetsaredim> fbug.googlecode.com
[23:54] <jetsaredim> i emailed the maintainer to see if he knew what the problem was
[23:54] <asac> yeah strange
[23:54] <asac> for now stick to what is in svn i guess
[23:54] <asac> firebug-1.1 branch?
[23:56] <jetsaredim> nah - was using trunk
[23:56] <asac> yeah ... no idea. for now keep it that way
[23:56] <asac> have you pushed things to bzr / launchpad already?
[23:56] <jetsaredim> yea pretty much
[23:56] <Ubulette> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jetsaredim/firefox-extensions/firebug.ubuntu
[23:57] <jetsaredim> but still doesn't explain what i should do with the package version
[23:57] <jetsaredim> feels kind of odd to have the package version b12 and have the install.rdf say b11
[23:57] <asac> jetsaredim: keep the one in install.rdf
[23:57] <jetsaredim> right
[23:57] <asac> i didn't know that you have 2 different sources
[23:57] <jetsaredim> so i should change the version number in the changelog?
[23:58] <asac> if svn is b11 .. and you base your package on that, use b11
[23:58] <jetsaredim> ok
[23:58] <asac> but remember if you don'tuse a tag you shoiuld also append a revno to the version
[23:58] <asac> e.g. 1.1.0~b11+svn2333
[23:58] <asac> e.g. the svn revision number you used
[23:59] <asac> Ubulette: what scheme do we use for svn ?
[23:59] <asac> or is it +rev2333 ?