[00:03] <Pici> PriceChild: What was that ban about? 
[00:04] <PriceChild> Pici, quit message
[00:04] <Pici> PriceChild: simple woman?
[00:04] <PriceChild> Pici, one of them
[00:04] <Pici> Or the Intellegent American one
[00:04] <PriceChild> that's another
[00:04] <Pici> Rather, that one makes more sense... 
[00:04] <PriceChild> together with the french one
[00:05] <PriceChild> the microsoft one.... meh not too bothered
[00:05] <PriceChild> well, not as bothered
[00:05] <nalioth> i actually think that was a compliment
[00:05] <Pici> The woman one wasnt bad, the american one was.
[00:06]  * nalioth wasn't bothered at all
[00:07] <Pici> I was only bothered because I misread the 'simple woman' one wrong at first.  
[00:07] <PriceChild> In light of current events I think its worth asking for change.
[00:13] <nalioth> i think we've wasted far more brain cycles than it deserves
[01:05] <no0tic> jpatrick, sorry for the inconvenience but I invited codicealpha in #ubuntu-it-ops...
[01:30] <mannytu_> hi
[01:31] <LjL> hello, how can we help you?
[01:31] <mannytu_> i can not get to #ubuntu , it says I am ban?
[01:32] <LjL> let me check
[01:32] <mannytu_> ok
[01:35] <LjL> mannytu_, you sent this message a couple of times as soon as you joined #ubuntu
 A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[01:35] <LjL> can you explain that?
[01:35] <mannytu_> this is the first time I log into irc today?
[01:36] <LjL> maybe, but that was not today
[01:36] <mannytu_> I did don't know who did that message; it was not me.
[01:37] <LjL> well, it was from your computer, and using your very own nickname
[01:38] <mannytu_> I did not do that.
[01:38] <mannytu_> when did this happen?
[01:38] <LjL> Feb 19 2008 23:02:43
[01:39] <LjL> UTC
[01:40] <mannytu_> i do not know what to tell you; I did not do it
[01:41] <mannytu_> if you see when I long on I mostly read what is happening and not chat much at all...
[01:41] <LjL> mannytu_: may you have pasted that message into your client accidentally?
[01:42] <mannytu_> I do not think so, do I need to change my name?
[01:42] <LjL> no
[01:43] <mannytu_> can someone use my name without my password?
[01:43] <LjL> mannytu_: it just must have been some sort of accident, because it wasn't just your nickname, but your very computer's network address. i'll let you back into #ubuntu, but please make sure you don't accidentally paste lines into your client, because otherwise we'll just have to believe you're lying about it
[01:44] <Hobbsee> mannytu_: are you running any xchat scripts?
[01:45] <mannytu_> right now I am using xchat on my latop thru VMware maching with jars user
[01:45] <mannytu_> I also have Ubuntu on my Dell
[01:46] <mannytu_> I do not know how to run scrips
[01:46] <mannytu_> I still new and learning the linux commands
[01:48] <mannytu_> I am sure I did not paste anything, however, someone did
[01:49] <LjL> someone using the cpe-70-123-175-137.hot.res.rr.com address, yes.
[01:50] <mannytu_> whos address is that?
[01:50] <LjL> mannytu_: please type /whois mannytu_
[01:51] <mannytu_> It did not come up?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> [12:52] [Whois] mannytu_ is n=Manny@cpe-70-123-175-137.hot.res.rr.com (Larson)
[01:53] <mannytu_> that is my last name; is this my address?
[01:53] <LjL> yes
[01:54] <mannytu_> can someone use my computer to send these messages?
[01:54] <LjL> mannytu_: not unless your computer has been compromised
[01:55] <LjL> mannytu_: is the "mannytu" who is currently online yourself?
[01:55] <mannytu_> ok this is from my laptop; wil it be different on my Desktop?
[01:56] <LjL> what will be different?
[01:56] <mannytu_> the whois?
[01:56] <LjL> mannytu_: you can check for yourself, /whois mannytu
[01:57] <nalioth> they are the same
[01:57] <mannytu_> I type the command but it did not show me?
[01:57] <mannytu_>  /whois mannytu
[01:58] <LjL> mannytu_, it works just like it worked the other time with mannytu_
[01:59] <mannytu_> I type it term but I do not see it?
[01:59] <LjL> ok
[01:59] <LjL> [Whois] mannytu is n=manny@cpe-70-123-175-137.hot.res.rr.com (purple)
[01:59] <LjL> mannytu_ is n=Manny@cpe-70-123-175-137.hot.res.rr.com (Larson)
[01:59] <LjL> the latter is yourself. is the former yourself too?
[02:00] <mannytu_> that should be my desktop on piggen
[02:00] <LjL> mannytu_: could you have inadvertedly sent those messages from Pidgin?
[02:01] <mannytu_> I do not real chat that much
[02:01] <mannytu_> I read to see the problems that other have to learn
[02:02] <LjL> mannytu_: look, either your computer was compromised, in which case you should worry, or you accidentally pasted stuff. i can't know.
[02:03] <mannytu_> ok, sorry for taking too much of your time
[02:05] <LjL> *deep breath*
[02:07]  * jdong pats LjL 
[02:08] <LjL> Hobbsee: you win. PM:  [03:07:43] <mannytu> I know [03:08:00] <mannytu> I was messing with plug In
[02:08] <Hobbsee> hah
[02:10] <Pici> !opsnack | LjL 
[02:10] <ubotu> LjL: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[02:10] <jdong> what if LjL were allergic to peanuts?
[02:11] <Pici> I'm allergic to peanuts... 
[02:11] <LjL> err...
[02:11] <LjL> i'm allergic to peanuts.
[02:11] <LjL> but i'm not allergic to chocolate so i'll just throw the peanuts to mc44
[02:12] <mannytu> LjL: I know!!! I was messing with Plug in for Pidgin that day
[02:12] <LjL> mannytu: yes, i replied to your private message
[02:13] <mannytu> my wife was talking to me
[02:13] <mannytu> have to get ready for bed...
[02:13] <mannytu> good night
[02:13] <LjL> good night
[02:13] <no0tic> 'night LjL 
[02:13] <jdong> no0tic: wrong person :)
[02:14] <no0tic> jdong, indeed, but he should go too :)
[02:14] <jdong> no0tic: maybe you two should go together and ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H yeah it's probably that time
[02:15] <no0tic> jdong, we live 300km away each others
[02:15]  * jdong tries to recall the expression about distant relationships...
[02:16] <Pici> Absense makes the heart grow fonder.
[02:17] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [21:30:16] <jdong>    Pici: you picky when it comes to rubbin'?
[02:17] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [21:30:29] <jdong>    I can't believe I just said that
[02:17] <jdong> :D
[02:17]  * Pici blinks
[02:17] <jdong> I have a feeling one can generate a very disturbing jdong-quotes collection
[02:17] <no0tic> jdong, absense is like the wind, blows out a candle and strenghtens larges fires
[02:18] <LjL> jdong: but we don't, unless provoked :P
[02:18] <jdong> LjL: :)
[02:56] <stdin> anyone else getting /msg's from kahrytan?
[02:57] <LjL> no, what about?
[02:57] <stdin> [02:56]<kahrytan> What kitofhawaii said about me in Jan 28, 2008, was complete bullshit. it was all lies and slander.  ref: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/28/%23ubuntu-ops.txt
[02:58]  * PriceChild headdesks
[02:58] <LjL> stdin: and why would he tell you about that?
[02:58] <stdin> LjL: nothing, just came out of the blue
[02:58] <LjL> stdin, i suggest you tell him to stop bothering you with unsolicited PMs.
[02:58] <stdin> I wasn't even active here, was working on some c++ code for the last few hours
[02:59] <PriceChild> LjL, perhaps we suggest he PMs me? *ducks*
[02:59] <Pici> He wasn't here either.
[02:59] <LjL> PriceChild: no, but we could suggest he joins here.
[02:59] <LjL> no PMs thank you.
[02:59] <PriceChild> -irc don't you mean? ;)
[03:00] <PriceChild> And I was being sarcy.
[03:00] <jdong> 21:59 <+LjL> no PMs thank you.
[03:00]  * jdong giggles
[03:00] <LjL> especially in the light of the fact that he asked for no PMs from us
[03:00] <stdin> I haven't replied, and I don't plan to. don't want to even give them the chance for a dialogue
[03:00] <LjL> PriceChild: -irc should do, yeah.
[03:01] <stdin> although the'll probably read the logs for this conversation and pm me again in a few days, oh well
[03:02] <LjL> stdin, so let him. he clearly requested that ops don't "harrass" him by PMing in. i don't see why, in this particular instance, you shouldn't respect his will.
[03:27] <mneptok> why is he still allowed in #u-us-hi?
[03:28] <mneptok> if ops are not allowed to speak to him, then he has no business in Ubuntu channels
[03:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, PriceChild said: !unforget anything
[03:46] <PriceChild> hmm was sure there was something there
[03:47] <PriceChild> ah he used a .
[06:31] <desertc> someone might want to keep an eye on #ubuntu-offtopic -- trouble brewing
[06:31] <Myrtti> I'm for a while
[06:32] <desertc> :)  okay - have a nice night
[11:45] <Hobbsee> people, is it trolling if you're saying something accurate?
[11:45] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: example?
[11:46] <Hobbsee> [22:13] * Fujitsu checks how far read-only-launchpad has been deferred.
[11:46] <Hobbsee> [22:14] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: it doesn't matter how long it's been deferred currently.  they'll just keep redeferring it by a month, as they wish.
[11:46] <Hobbsee> [22:18] <soren> So... How's the trolling business these days?
[11:53] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, it's all in the tone in such a situation
[11:54] <Hobbsee> yeah well
[11:55]  * Seeker` doesn'nt understand what is going on in that conversation, or how it is trolling
[11:55] <Hobbsee> Seeker`: it's launchpad milestones, and features getting delayed
[11:57] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: so, uh, what's the polite form of saying that launchpad tends to postpone it's release dates, so one can not assume that a given feature will show up when the suggested date says?
[11:57] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:58] <Gary> just what you typed is clear enough
[12:00] <Seeker`> "the release dates tend not to be accurate as features are usually delayed"
[12:01] <Gary> s/usually/often  s/usually/can be
[12:03] <Gary> hacktalk in #ubuntu is posting bash.org posts pretending they are helpful...
[12:10] <Gary> kb'd him
[12:58] <neversfelde> Hello, I am a kubuntu member since yesterday. Can you give me an Ubuntu cloak?
[12:58] <neversfelde> here is my launchpad account: https://edge.launchpad.net/~neversfelde
[12:58] <jpatrick> hi neversfelde 
[12:59] <neversfelde> hi jpatrick
[12:59] <jpatrick> Gary: you still around mate?^
[12:59] <Gary> yeah
[12:59] <jpatrick> oh, wait, I think nalioth does all the ubuntu cloaks
[12:59] <Gary> he does
[13:00] <Pici> He does because it requires a staffer and a IRC Council member to do it... which he is both.
[13:01] <neversfelde> there is an IRC Council?
[13:01] <Pici> !irccouncil
[13:01] <ubotu> The Ubuntu IRC Council is the team governance council for the the Ubuntu IRC channels on the freenode network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil for more information
[13:01] <neversfelde> thx
[13:02] <Pici> Sure :)
[14:28] <jussi01> I just ban/forwarded alterego from #kubuntu-kde4 seems he was one of those trolls we have been getting asking nonsense questions
[14:30] <mc44> jussi01: he just got k-lined
[14:30] <jussi01> hmmm, actually, make that just removed.
[14:30] <jussi01> mc44: heh, great
[14:45] <PriceChild> neversfelde, could I have your launchpad url please?
[14:45] <neversfelde> PriceChild: ofcourse, one moment please
[14:45] <PriceChild> neversfelde, have you set up your nickname with nickserv with a linked nick and email set?
[14:46] <neversfelde> PriceChild: I think so. Can I test it somewhere?
[14:46] <PriceChild> neversfelde, type /msg nickserv info neversfelde, then paste it into a private message with me
[14:47] <neversfelde> launchpad url is https://edge.launchpad.net/~neversfelde
[14:47] <PriceChild> "or", just check there is an email and linked nick listed there
[14:48] <neversfelde> PriceChild: there is an email and linked nicks
[14:48] <PriceChild> Good good.
[14:48] <PriceChild> nalioth, could you please cloak neversfelde with ubuntu/member
[14:48] <PriceChild> neversfelde, please be patient and nal​ioth will get to it asap.
[14:49] <neversfelde> no problem. Thanks for your Help. 
[14:49] <neversfelde> shall I stay in channel?
[14:49] <PriceChild> could be handy, just incase
[14:50] <neversfelde> k
[14:50] <Pici> PriceChild: Gary is around somewhere... do you need nal, or any staffer?
[14:50] <PriceChild> Pici, need nal.
[14:50] <Pici> Ah :/
[14:50] <Gary> Pici, annoyingly nalioth only at the mo
[14:51] <Pici> Gary: You should annoy him about it
[14:53] <Pici> :X nevermind
[14:53] <Gary> I annoy him about many things :p
[17:42] <LjL> [18:41:07] * genius will pay $ (paypal) for help. I need to enable external monitor on NV7400Go. Please go private.
[17:42] <LjL> not sure what i think of this but i just thought i'd paste it
[17:47] <jussi01> heh, someones desperate
[18:09] <Seeker`> I dont think that it is a good thing, but it isn't definately wrong
[18:26]  * jpatrick looks at GRay in #kubuntu
[19:07] <Pici> ugh
[19:07] <ompaul> see -ops
[19:07] <ompaul> woops
[19:07] <ompaul> see -offtopic 
[19:07] <Pici> Thats what my 'ugh' was about.
[19:08] <ompaul> Pici, ehh you should have said +1
[19:08] <ompaul> but you did not 
[19:08] <Pici> Then you would have said, "What about #ubuntu+1"
[19:10] <ompaul> Pici, never - (at least just so I can disagree with you ;-)
[19:10] <ompaul> )
[19:10] <ubotu> white_eagle called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[19:22] <ompaul> jdong, pm
[20:49] <anthony> Hey, can anyone fill me in on what's happened so far in the CC meeting?
[20:50] <jpatrick> they're on the MOTU thing now
[20:51] <jpatrick> West Bengal-India application => rejected, not old enough
[20:51] <jpatrick> US - Maryland got though
[20:51] <jpatrick> and the others aren't around
[20:52] <jpatrick> anthony: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[20:52] <jpatrick> we still have to start memberships
[20:52] <anthony> All righty - why was the stuff about loco hosting removed?
[20:53] <LjL> not to do with the CC
[20:53] <jpatrick> already discuss at pervious meeting
[20:54] <anthony> Well, nothing changed since the last meeting.
[20:54] <jpatrick> anthony: Canonical team are overworked appartently
[20:54] <anthony> jpatrick: Yes, that's been their line since at least last October.
[20:55] <jpatrick> not much we can do about it :)
[20:55] <anthony> There's "overworked" and there's "just not paying attention to that anymore"
[20:55] <jpatrick> They did my requests at rt.ubuntu.com
[20:55] <anthony> They said they were hiring new people, and things would improve "within weeks"
[20:57] <anthony> meh, whatever
[20:57]  * anthony hunkers down for posingaspopular and greg-g
[20:58] <jpatrick> anthony: just poke them in #canonical-sysadmin when you need something :)
[21:00] <anthony> jpatrick: I have.  Many, many times.  So has Madpilot.  We've been filing tickets, sending e-mails, poking people on IRC, and still nothing.  We've even had someone in #canonical-sysadmin promise action within 24 hours, on three separate occasions, and not come through.
[21:01] <anthony> We've been working on getting a web site up ever since Ubuntu Canada was approved over a year ago.
[21:01] <jpatrick> anthony: wow, odd... they've always helped me when I asked...
[21:02] <anthony> jpatrick: Yeah, I don't know what the deal is...
[21:03] <jpatrick> anthony: I find them have a thing with "security" all the time :)
[21:03] <jpatrick> they*, but don't blame them, it's their machines
[21:06] <anthony> jpatrick: right now the "security" excuse is being used to explain why we can't edit our Drupal theme, and are stuck with broken links that users keep complaining to me about because Canonical gave us a broken theme.
[21:08] <jpatrick> anthony: surely you must have at least one ssh account on the machine..
[21:08] <anthony> jpatrick: No.  No SSH nor FTP.
[21:09] <anthony> you can see that in our ticket
[21:09] <jpatrick> ok, that's just evil
[21:10] <anthony> jpatrick: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=207 for one of our threads of contact
[21:13] <jpatrick> anthony: I see..