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tjaaltonjcristau: actually, the output is identical to what is on my desktop :/05:51
brycehey tjaalton, hmm, I did a system upgrade on my 965, and confirm that the new -intel and xserver are installed, yet greedy is not getting turned on06:50
tjaaltonhi bryce, I'll check mine06:50
brycetjaalton: have you done an upgrade on your system?  is it all working properly?06:50
brycethanks06:51
tjaaltonindeed.. hmm06:53
brycemaybe the -intel built against an older version of the xserver?06:54
brycemaybe we do need to up the build-depends after all?06:54
tjaaltonbryce: did you notice that apparently i945/950 have problems with XAA and Xv with compiz?06:54
tjaaltonoh, could be06:54
bryceyes I did notice a spate of similar 945 and even some 915 issues that sounded suspiciously similar06:55
bryceto the 965 issue06:55
bryceI requested people test greedy with those the other day06:56
tjaaltoncomment 44 on bug 17749206:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 177492 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "EXA is balls-achingly slow" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17749206:57
tjaaltonshould I drop the xaa patch?06:58
brycesounds like it06:59
tjaaltonok, I'll disable it and bump up the build-dep on xserver-xorg-dev07:00
tjaaltonready07:09
tjaaltonbuild tested too07:11
bryceawesome07:11
tjaaltondamn, I had old headers and it's still broken, another try07:14
tjaaltonhmm, xorg-server 1ubuntu4 is not in the archive07:18
brycewhat?07:18
tjaaltonat least I can't install it07:19
bryceapt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core says it's there07:19
bryceweird07:19
tjaaltonbut not on archive.u.c07:19
tjaaltonso the source is there, but it's not built07:20
brycehuh07:20
tjaaltonbryce: I'll upload this anyway, it'll get built when the deps are available07:28
bryceok07:28
tjaaltonbryce: replied to the core-dev application :)08:07
brycethanks!08:07
bryceseb128!08:10
seb128hello bryce08:10
brycegot some good news08:10
seb128ah?08:11
bryceyeah, in digging through the redhat code I found it already had scripts to generate patches08:11
brycethey were written for rpm tools, but I was able to generalize them fairly easily08:11
seb128good08:12
brycealso, I built the gtk.patch against libgtk and it built fine, and I think it's probably ready for integration08:12
brycebut I think you should look at it - it drops some xinerama api things that I'm concerned might break apps that are currently using that api08:13
bryceanyway, I also created a bzr branch here:  https://code.launchpad.net/~bryceharrington/gnome-control-center/ssp-xrandr08:13
bryceI stuck in a README there with more details on how to build things and so on08:14
bryceI also put the TODO-UBUNTU from wiki into there for convenience; Launchpad went offline most of the day today and I couldn't access the wiki08:15
bryceseb128: anyway, it's getting late for me, but if you could look into getting the gtk.patch integrated (with or without the xinerama changes), that would be a great first step - I think it's a prerequiste for the rest of this code.08:24
seb128ok, will do08:24
seb128bryce: good night08:25
ubotuNew bug: #128543 in xorg (main) "suspend works from command line, but not via GNOME menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12854312:53
ubotuNew bug: #193990 in xorg (main) "Empty Screen and Graphics preferences" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19399013:36
ubotuNew bug: #194055 in pixman (main) "package libpixman-1-dev 0.9.6-1 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, ?/usr/lib/libpixman-1.so? zu ?berschreiben, welches auch in Paket libpixman1 ist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19405517:00
seb128bryce: around?17:51
bryceyup18:12
bryceseb128: what's up?18:12
seb128bryce: fedora is using no gtk patch apparently?18:13
bryceseb128: really?18:13
seb128yes18:13
bryceseb128: I actually don't know any specifics about the gtk.patch18:13
brycewhere have you heard this?18:13
seb128I looked on their viewcvs as I usually do when I look at their patches18:13
bryceI was testing last night with it installed and did not find it made a difference18:14
bryce(but I figured I'd done something wrong)18:15
brycehmm... well perhaps it simply hadn't been submitted yet?18:15
brycereading Soeren's email it sounds like they're planning on including it for fedora 918:19
bryceah, ok - grepping through the source code, none of the new functions in gtk.patch are actually referred to by the new code18:27
bryceso I guess we can ignore it for now18:27
brycetjaalton: cjwatson is asking me about bug 173411.  got thoughts on how we should solve it?  obviously restoring the input portions to xorg.conf would be a possibility, but are there other approaches?18:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 173411 in xorg "[Hardy][Regression] Touchpad vertical scroll does not work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17341118:33
tjaaltonbryce: well, input-hotplug would be the alternative, :)18:39
brycetjaalton: well, but what work needs to be completed on that to resolve this bug?18:39
tjaaltonbryce: maybe asking if david has any pathces he started to work on, or write a script which generates an fdi-file from xorg.conf18:43
brycehmm18:44
ubotuNew bug: #194078 in xterm (main) "Setting boldMode to false does not disable the behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19407818:52
ubotuNew bug: #194090 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx restricted driver doesn't work on hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19409019:00
ubotuNew bug: #193828 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "ATI Radeon 9000 + Asus VW195D 1440x900 lcd monitor: left black bar showed at highest resolution" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19382819:01
ubotuNew bug: #192231 in dell "[Hardy] Machines with nvidia cards resume to a white screen (dup-of: 160264)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19223119:05
pwnguini love people who come into an inactive bug, ask if there's still a problem, and then take off because they have no idea how to solve the problem19:27
pwnguinmaybe this guy's different though. there's a "We" somewhere19:28
pwnguinperhaps one of the people he represents will have a clue I'm missing19:29
brycepwnguin: which bug?19:47
pwnguinbug #14064419:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140644 in gnome-power-manager "xset fails to turn off LCD screen" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14064419:47
pwnguini dont have the laptop with me19:47
pwnguinand unless you've got a toshiba handy19:47
brycenope19:47
pwnguini doubt you'll be able to fix it either19:47
pwnguinwhich is why it's been sitting19:48
brycewasn't planning to ;-)19:48
brycejust curious who the  triager was19:48
pwnguinnever seem em on irc19:49
bryceI don't recognize the name either, although he's got a decent amount of karma19:50
pwnguini just get a bit frustrated at the cookie cutter reports using the imperial form19:50
pwnguinlike im not part of "We"19:50
bryceyeah, I feel the pain...  personally I try avoiding use of canned replies, although I understand when going through a lot of bugs, cut and paste is easier19:54
bryceI gave a reply there that is probably equally useless but a bit less canned ;-)19:54
pwnguinif i recall correctly19:55
bryceI suspect the bug may be mis-filed against g-p-m, but it really requires someone more knowledgeable in the power management side of things to tell19:55
pwnguini filed it against gpm because thats what gpm uses19:55
pwnguinand it fails19:55
pwnguintherefore gpm fails19:55
* bryce nod19:56
bryce+s19:56
brycethat's the right starting guess to make19:56
bryceg-p-m triagers need to evaluate and then decide if it's really an underlying problem with acpi, the kernel, X, ...19:56
pwnguinjudging by the gpm bug lists, i think they have bigger fish to fry19:57
* bryce nods19:57
pwnguini think i found that out while hunting for the reason dpms triggers while watching more than one episode with totem19:58
bryceg-p-m is my biggest annoyance with linux these days (mainly the screen blanking behavior)19:59
bryceer s/blanking/dimming/19:59
ubotuNew bug: #173837 in xorg-server (main) "gdmflexiserver or 'new login in a window' doesn't refresh screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17383722:28
ubotuNew bug: #194149 in xorg (main) "Microsoft Wireless Notebook Mouse: horizontal scroll not working + wishlist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19414922:35
ubotuNew bug: #194150 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "dual monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19415023:19

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