[05:51] <tjaalton> jcristau: actually, the output is identical to what is on my desktop :/
[06:50] <bryce> hey tjaalton, hmm, I did a system upgrade on my 965, and confirm that the new -intel and xserver are installed, yet greedy is not getting turned on
[06:50] <tjaalton> hi bryce, I'll check mine
[06:50] <bryce> tjaalton: have you done an upgrade on your system?  is it all working properly?
[06:51] <bryce> thanks
[06:53] <tjaalton> indeed.. hmm
[06:54] <bryce> maybe the -intel built against an older version of the xserver?
[06:54] <bryce> maybe we do need to up the build-depends after all?
[06:54] <tjaalton> bryce: did you notice that apparently i945/950 have problems with XAA and Xv with compiz?
[06:54] <tjaalton> oh, could be
[06:55] <bryce> yes I did notice a spate of similar 945 and even some 915 issues that sounded suspiciously similar
[06:55] <bryce> to the 965 issue
[06:56] <bryce> I requested people test greedy with those the other day
[06:57] <tjaalton> comment 44 on bug 177492
[06:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177492 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "EXA is balls-achingly slow" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177492
[06:58] <tjaalton> should I drop the xaa patch?
[06:59] <bryce> sounds like it
[07:00] <tjaalton> ok, I'll disable it and bump up the build-dep on xserver-xorg-dev
[07:09] <tjaalton> ready
[07:11] <tjaalton> build tested too
[07:11] <bryce> awesome
[07:14] <tjaalton> damn, I had old headers and it's still broken, another try
[07:18] <tjaalton> hmm, xorg-server 1ubuntu4 is not in the archive
[07:18] <bryce> what?
[07:19] <tjaalton> at least I can't install it
[07:19] <bryce> apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core says it's there
[07:19] <bryce> weird
[07:19] <tjaalton> but not on archive.u.c
[07:20] <tjaalton> so the source is there, but it's not built
[07:20] <bryce> huh
[07:28] <tjaalton> bryce: I'll upload this anyway, it'll get built when the deps are available
[07:28] <bryce> ok
[08:07] <tjaalton> bryce: replied to the core-dev application :)
[08:07] <bryce> thanks!
[08:10] <bryce> seb128!
[08:10] <seb128> hello bryce
[08:10] <bryce> got some good news
[08:11] <seb128> ah?
[08:11] <bryce> yeah, in digging through the redhat code I found it already had scripts to generate patches
[08:11] <bryce> they were written for rpm tools, but I was able to generalize them fairly easily
[08:12] <seb128> good
[08:12] <bryce> also, I built the gtk.patch against libgtk and it built fine, and I think it's probably ready for integration
[08:13] <bryce> but I think you should look at it - it drops some xinerama api things that I'm concerned might break apps that are currently using that api
[08:13] <bryce> anyway, I also created a bzr branch here:  https://code.launchpad.net/~bryceharrington/gnome-control-center/ssp-xrandr
[08:14] <bryce> I stuck in a README there with more details on how to build things and so on
[08:15] <bryce> I also put the TODO-UBUNTU from wiki into there for convenience; Launchpad went offline most of the day today and I couldn't access the wiki
[08:24] <bryce> seb128: anyway, it's getting late for me, but if you could look into getting the gtk.patch integrated (with or without the xinerama changes), that would be a great first step - I think it's a prerequiste for the rest of this code.
[08:24] <seb128> ok, will do
[08:25] <seb128> bryce: good night
[12:53] <ubotu> New bug: #128543 in xorg (main) "suspend works from command line, but not via GNOME menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128543
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #193990 in xorg (main) "Empty Screen and Graphics preferences" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193990
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #194055 in pixman (main) "package libpixman-1-dev 0.9.6-1 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, ?/usr/lib/libpixman-1.so? zu ?berschreiben, welches auch in Paket libpixman1 ist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194055
[17:51] <seb128> bryce: around?
[18:12] <bryce> yup
[18:12] <bryce> seb128: what's up?
[18:13] <seb128> bryce: fedora is using no gtk patch apparently?
[18:13] <bryce> seb128: really?
[18:13] <seb128> yes
[18:13] <bryce> seb128: I actually don't know any specifics about the gtk.patch
[18:13] <bryce> where have you heard this?
[18:13] <seb128> I looked on their viewcvs as I usually do when I look at their patches
[18:14] <bryce> I was testing last night with it installed and did not find it made a difference
[18:15] <bryce> (but I figured I'd done something wrong)
[18:15] <bryce> hmm... well perhaps it simply hadn't been submitted yet?
[18:19] <bryce> reading Soeren's email it sounds like they're planning on including it for fedora 9
[18:27] <bryce> ah, ok - grepping through the source code, none of the new functions in gtk.patch are actually referred to by the new code
[18:27] <bryce> so I guess we can ignore it for now
[18:32] <bryce> tjaalton: cjwatson is asking me about bug 173411.  got thoughts on how we should solve it?  obviously restoring the input portions to xorg.conf would be a possibility, but are there other approaches?
[18:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173411 in xorg "[Hardy][Regression] Touchpad vertical scroll does not work" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173411
[18:39] <tjaalton> bryce: well, input-hotplug would be the alternative, :)
[18:39] <bryce> tjaalton: well, but what work needs to be completed on that to resolve this bug?
[18:43] <tjaalton> bryce: maybe asking if david has any pathces he started to work on, or write a script which generates an fdi-file from xorg.conf
[18:44] <bryce> hmm
[18:52] <ubotu> New bug: #194078 in xterm (main) "Setting boldMode to false does not disable the behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194078
[19:00] <ubotu> New bug: #194090 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx restricted driver doesn't work on hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194090
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #193828 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "ATI Radeon 9000 + Asus VW195D 1440x900 lcd monitor: left black bar showed at highest resolution" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193828
[19:05] <ubotu> New bug: #192231 in dell "[Hardy] Machines with nvidia cards resume to a white screen (dup-of: 160264)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192231
[19:27] <pwnguin> i love people who come into an inactive bug, ask if there's still a problem, and then take off because they have no idea how to solve the problem
[19:28] <pwnguin> maybe this guy's different though. there's a "We" somewhere
[19:29] <pwnguin> perhaps one of the people he represents will have a clue I'm missing
[19:47] <bryce> pwnguin: which bug?
[19:47] <pwnguin> bug #140644
[19:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 140644 in gnome-power-manager "xset fails to turn off LCD screen" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140644
[19:47] <pwnguin> i dont have the laptop with me
[19:47] <pwnguin> and unless you've got a toshiba handy
[19:47] <bryce> nope
[19:47] <pwnguin> i doubt you'll be able to fix it either
[19:48] <pwnguin> which is why it's been sitting
[19:48] <bryce> wasn't planning to ;-)
[19:48] <bryce> just curious who the  triager was
[19:49] <pwnguin> never seem em on irc
[19:50] <bryce> I don't recognize the name either, although he's got a decent amount of karma
[19:50] <pwnguin> i just get a bit frustrated at the cookie cutter reports using the imperial form
[19:50] <pwnguin> like im not part of "We"
[19:54] <bryce> yeah, I feel the pain...  personally I try avoiding use of canned replies, although I understand when going through a lot of bugs, cut and paste is easier
[19:54] <bryce> I gave a reply there that is probably equally useless but a bit less canned ;-)
[19:55] <pwnguin> if i recall correctly
[19:55] <bryce> I suspect the bug may be mis-filed against g-p-m, but it really requires someone more knowledgeable in the power management side of things to tell
[19:55] <pwnguin> i filed it against gpm because thats what gpm uses
[19:55] <pwnguin> and it fails
[19:55] <pwnguin> therefore gpm fails
[19:56]  * bryce nod
[19:56] <bryce> +s
[19:56] <bryce> that's the right starting guess to make
[19:56] <bryce> g-p-m triagers need to evaluate and then decide if it's really an underlying problem with acpi, the kernel, X, ...
[19:57] <pwnguin> judging by the gpm bug lists, i think they have bigger fish to fry
[19:57]  * bryce nods
[19:58] <pwnguin> i think i found that out while hunting for the reason dpms triggers while watching more than one episode with totem
[19:59] <bryce> g-p-m is my biggest annoyance with linux these days (mainly the screen blanking behavior)
[19:59] <bryce> er s/blanking/dimming/
[22:28] <ubotu> New bug: #173837 in xorg-server (main) "gdmflexiserver or 'new login in a window' doesn't refresh screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173837
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #194149 in xorg (main) "Microsoft Wireless Notebook Mouse: horizontal scroll not working + wishlist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194149
[23:19] <ubotu> New bug: #194150 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "dual monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194150