[00:44] <tomd123> does anyone know how to enable the sony motion eye camera?
[00:44] <TheSheep> tomd123: tried camorama?
[00:52] <tomd123> it said could not connect
[00:52] <tomd123> I guess I don't have the driver for it
[00:52] <tomd123> or module
[00:53] <TheSheep> well, see lspci and lsusb for the actual type of the camera, and google or search the forums for it
[00:53] <TheSheep> but cameras are poorly supported, mine doesn't work under linux for example
[00:54] <tomd123> Cool thx sheep for the advice
[01:34] <bart1105> good day! need a little help. i installed new fonts on my laptop but openoffice won't recognize it
[02:15] <x3on> does Xubuntu come with NetworkManager installed and preconfigured after install? I havent used ubuntu for a long while, a big problem I had with it was getting NM to work. I just installed LinuxMint on my sisters laptop the other day and everything worked properly after install, including NM. I really like XFCE and will definitely use xubuntu if networkmanager is working
[02:18] <eldalion> yes it is installed and ready to work
[02:18] <eldalion> i configured the wifi on the live cd
[02:48] <optx> hi
[02:49] <optx> i need help with xubuntu and vista-bootloader, i can do what i want, xubuntu doesnt start :(
[02:54] <totalwormage> optx: have you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[02:58] <Indiadev_Techie> Hi evryone...
[04:59] <Geoffrey2> how does autoheader determine where to look for a given file?
[06:39] <Geoffrey2> anyone home?
[06:40] <ere4si> !hi
[06:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[06:41] <Geoffrey2> ere4si: I tried to upgrade xfce to the latest version, but I've run into brick walls nobody seems to know how to fix, is my best solution just to grab the liveCD and reinstall?
[06:42] <ere4si> was it just xfce you updated or the os Geoffrey2 ?
[06:43] <Geoffrey2> ere4si: just xfce, installing from source, from 4.4.1 to 4.4.2.....
[06:43] <Geoffrey2> O/S is Xubuntu Gutsy
[06:44] <ere4si> I'll have a quick read Geoffrey2
[06:47] <Geoffrey2> thanks
[06:48] <ere4si> Geoffrey2, did you usen make to install?
[06:48] <ere4si> *use
[06:50] <ere4si> e.g make   make install
[06:53] <Geoffrey2> yes
[06:54] <Geoffrey2> I'd only installed the first 5-6 files though, hadn't completed the process yet
[06:55] <ere4si> well then Geoffrey2 , if you change into the directory you were in when you typed  "make install" you can type "make uninstall" and it should go away :)
[06:55] <Geoffrey2> ok, thanks
[06:55] <ere4si> k
[07:05] <Geoffrey2> after that, should I just be able to reboot and hopefully get the old desktop back?
[07:36] <adrien> I need help for Xubuntu !
[07:36] <adrien> I am having issue with displaying configuration menu, and thus cannot install things
[07:36] <adrien> my terminal yells for CURSES
[07:37] <adrien> and for QT3 when I happen to have all the packages installed :(
[07:37] <adrien> any help is wlecome
[07:37] <ere4si> sudo apt-get install "programname"  work adrien ?
[07:37] <adrien> yes it does
[07:38] <ere4si> adrien, which configuration menu?
[07:38] <adrien> any : i give you an example
[07:38] <ere4si> :)
[07:38] <adrien> I was trying to install the novel client for linux
[07:39] <adrien> (not novell - novel)
[07:39] <adrien> and i got to the point where i have to luanch a setup.sh script
[07:39] <adrien> but when I type in the command, the terminal tells me
[07:39] <adrien> cannot initialize curses
[07:39] <adrien> Intallation cancelled
[07:39] <predaeus> adrien, you might need a package like "libncurses5" not sure though which one.
[07:40] <adrien> i got it and I also have libncurse5-dev :(
[07:40] <TheSheep> install the build-essential package
[07:40] <adrien> I have all the package but it seems my system is blind :(
[07:40] <adrien> i have installed build-essential  as well
[07:41] <predaeus> adrien, maybe that application looks in the wrong spot for those libs, where did you get the application from? is it a source package, or .deb or from the repositories?
[07:41] <adrien> i got them via apt
[07:41] <adrien> so i suppose deb
[07:41] <predaeus> so from the repos
[07:41] <adrien> yes
[07:42] <TheSheep> adrien: I can't see any novel client in the repos
[07:42] <adrien> ho, you mean this guy.
[07:42] <adrien> not i installed it from another source, right
[07:42] <adrien> sry
[07:43] <adrien> i followed an howto on ubuntu forums
[07:43] <ere4si> !unk
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <ere4si> !unc
[07:43] <adrien> I have managed to install the very same apps in my ubuntu box yesterday
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <TheSheep> adrien: you may be missing curses bindings for whatever language that application is using
[07:44] <adrien> so i thought it was an issue with xubuntu
[07:44] <adrien> so how can I fix this ?
[07:45] <predaeus> adrien, is that howto for Ubuntu?
[07:45] <adrien> yes
[07:45] <TheSheep> look into the code of that script and see where the error comes from
[07:45] <adrien> i've looked for refs to curese, but nothing
[07:45] <TheSheep> you're running it from a terminal?
[07:46] <adrien> i had to make modifs to the script for it to work with ubuntu
[07:46] <adrien> yes
[07:46] <adrien> (and xubuntu - small differences)
[07:46] <TheSheep> well, report a bug to wherever you got it from
[07:46] <TheSheep> hopefully the author will fix it
[07:46] <adrien> i am not going ot report a bug, I am going to move to ubuntu and install fluxbox
[07:46] <TheSheep> good solution too
[07:47] <adrien> this software is really unsupported , otherwise I wouldnt be on the irc chat ;-)
[07:47] <adrien> :P
[07:47] <adrien> but I don't understand why xubuntu would be so different from ubuntu ...
[07:48] <TheSheep> adrien: it's not different, there is just something that this application requires that it failed to announc
[07:48] <TheSheep> e
[07:48] <ere4si> adrien, gnome terminal prob has the curses part you need
[07:48] <TheSheep> adrien: ubuntu just happened to have it installed
[07:48] <TheSheep> ere4si: no
[07:49] <adrien> I am going to tray install as root (su and not sudo)
[07:49] <ere4si> gnome terminal is ubuntu default  - not used in xubuntu
[07:49] <adrien> same prob
[07:49] <TheSheep> ere4si: terminal has nothing to do with it, he's missing library headers or libraries themselves
[07:50] <ere4si> thought it worked in ubuntu?
[07:50] <adrien> the thing is that I am not planning to move back to ubuntu since my machine is not that powerful - so ill have to find a solution
[07:50] <TheSheep> ere4si: just because that particular copy of ubuntu happened to have installed something that required the same libraries
[07:50] <adrien> its 7.10 both
[07:50] <TheSheep> adrien: can you pastebin the whole error?
[07:50] <predaeus> adrien, locate the binary of that application and run "ldd binaryname" to see what libraries you are missing.
[07:51] <predaeus> it will list the required shared libraries.
[07:51] <adrien> see : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4367189#post4367189
[07:51] <predaeus> see "man ldd" before trusting anybody for commands you don't know.
[07:51] <adrien> okay i will try
[07:52] <predaeus> always check the man pages by invoking "man commandname" for commands you don't know. You can quit the manpage viewer with the 'q' key.
[07:53] <TheSheep> hmm... not very informative error message
[07:53] <adrien> WOW
[07:54] <adrien> I typed 'man ldd' and there was amessage telling the terminal is not fully functional...
[07:54] <adrien> ??
[07:54] <predaeus> adrien, how did you install you ubuntu/xubuntu distro?
[07:55] <adrien> from a cd
[07:55] <predaeus> so you installed from the regular xubuntu cd? weird
[07:55] <adrien> yes...
[07:55] <TheSheep> adrien: what does 'echo $TERM' say?
[07:55] <adrien> tell me, what extension have binary files for my apps ? i cant seem to find any ...
[07:56] <TheSheep> adrien: they come without extensions
[07:56] <predaeus> he quit
[07:57] <TheSheep> so, the problem is not missing curses, but wrong terminal definition
[07:57] <adrien> sorry, i got the bad ideai of hitting alt f4 in su mod...
[07:57] <adrien> it says bash
[07:57] <adrien> echo $TERM = bash
[07:57] <adrien> shouldnt it be xfce-terminal ?
[07:58] <TheSheep> adrien: no, it should be 'xterm;
[07:58] <TheSheep> xterm
[07:58] <TheSheep> or vt100
[07:58] <adrien> okay... so here's the prob
[07:58] <TheSheep> you shouldn't mess arond with it
[07:58] <adrien> where is the problem ?
[07:58] <TheSheep> type 'export TERM=vt100'
[07:58] <TheSheep> ad try to run your application again
[07:59] <adrien> ok
[07:59] <adrien> thanks a miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllliooooooooooooooooooon !
[07:59] <adrien> it worked :)
[07:59] <TheSheep> or change the '$TERM setting' in your terminal's advanced settings back to 'xterm' as it's supposed to be
[07:59] <adrien> :)
[08:00] <TheSheep> you messed around with it, didn't you?
[08:00] <adrien> probably, dont remember :(
[08:00] <adrien> but thank you so much !
[08:00] <TheSheep> right-click on your terminal, select preferences, then advanced
[08:01] <adrien> yes, the setting changed to bash, but that wasn't me !
[08:01] <adrien> thanks again , i'll send you some chocolates :P
[09:05] <gidean> Hi
[09:05] <gidean> I'm trying to help a friend over the phone....
[09:06] <gidean> trying to get him to type things into the term...
[09:07] <gidean> what I can't figure out is the command that would create a decktop icon ..ie /usr/bin(something that would make the icon and put it on his desktop)
[09:07] <gidean> he's a point-and-click kinda dude and
[09:07] <gidean> speaks english as his second language..
[09:08] <gidean> talking over the phone is getting frustrating and I want to send him an email with the command
[09:08] <gidean> anyone know that command...if it exist?
[09:39] <mino> hi :) whereis the configuration file for "xfce4-autostart-editor" ... or how to edit the entries i can only remove or add items
[09:41] <mino> okay i found it myself: ~/.config/autostart/NAME.desktop
[11:07] <RandyboY> Is there any media(movie) players which buffers? Im watching movies over my network and it seems like it needs to buffer the file(s)... Im mainly using VLC. Maybe its an option in that player i haven seen?
[11:09] <RandyboY> And how do i mount images? Ive taken an image backup of a dvd of mine and want to see the movie with my xubuntu-machine...
[12:35] <Vaajda> can someone pls tell me if ubuntu can use 2 internet connection at the same time
[12:54] <TheSheep> Vaajda: it can, as all linux systems, but only one will be the default one
[12:55] <TheSheep> Vaajda: it's possible to set it up to split traffic into two or more connections, but that's a very advanced topic
[13:11] <Vaajda> well thats what i want to do
[14:23] <lovemedo> Hello yall.
[14:23] <lovemedo> Is there any way i can upgrade my Xubuntu using the Gutsy cd?
[14:23] <lovemedo> I downloaded the Live CD version and was wondering if i could upgrade without resorting to a format, or downloading from the Internet.
[15:09] <Ven]n> if i dont set DPI manually in xorg.conf .. what will my external mouse be using?
[15:17] <TheSheep> Ven]n: whatever it defaults to in hardware
[15:18] <Ven]n> ok
[15:18] <Ven]n> crap :p
[15:18] <Ven]n> i was hoping i could make my mouse even better
[15:18] <Ven]n> heh
[15:21] <Ven]n> whats the line to set it manually?
[16:02] <age6racer> hi all, ive accidentally deleted my main default desktop menu file. Can someone send me theirs please??
[16:02] <MatBoy> is automount for USB sticks and so on not default on ?
[16:02] <MatBoy> or installed ?
[16:03] <age6racer> orcould someone pastebin the xml?
[16:27] <vinnie> Hey i got a question... how come when i install my nvidia driver (the one from the nvidia website) all works fine but then i reboot and the screen flashes 3 times and gives me a low resolution .. then i install the driver again and its fine untill i reboot etc.
[16:27] <vinnie> I dont reboot that much but still quite a pain
[16:32] <TheSheep> vinnie: basically, you are supposed to install the nvidia driver using th restrcted drivers manager
[16:33] <vinnie> Well. actually i didnt install it thru that way, but i did look there and it said enabled and in use
[16:33] <TheSheep> the drivers from nvidia's page aren ot supported
[16:35] <vinnie> However they work quite brilliantly , apart from the rebooting thing. Surely theres a simple fix for this
[16:35] <TheSheep> well, let us know if you find it
[16:36] <vinnie> Sure thing
[16:37] <TheSheep> it might ivolve copyting the contents of /lib/modules/*-generic/volatile somewhere
[16:37] <TheSheep> copying
[16:37] <TheSheep> involve
[16:43] <vinnie> hmm i dont have nvidia in /etc/modules.. i think that might be it
[16:44] <vinnie> ill brb
[16:49] <vinnie> Nvidia module is loaded.. restricted driver thingie says its enabled and in use... why wont X use it. :|
[16:52] <TheSheep> see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:53] <TheSheep> Ven]n: are you sure it's loaded? does lsmod show it?
[16:54] <Ven]n> huh?
[17:00] <vinnie> TheSheep: thanks for the help. I was able to fix it by adding DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new" to /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules
[17:23] <RandyboY> Is there any media(movie) players which buffers? Im watching movies over my network and it seems like it needs to buffer the file(s)... Im mainly using VLC. Maybe its an option in that player i haven seen? Another question; how do i mount images? Ive taken an image backup of a dvd of mine a long time ago and want to see the movie with my xubuntu-machine...
[17:28] <LeAstrale> RandyboY: for such long questions pleaes go to www.ubuntuforums.org
[17:28] <LeAstrale> and create a thread
[17:28] <TheSheep> !iso | RandyboY
[17:28] <ubotu> RandyboY: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[17:30] <pleia2> RandyboY: I don't know about VLC, but mplayer has buffering switches
[18:20] <Raeth> Hey
[18:21] <RandyboY> Is there any media(movie) players which buffers? Im watching movies over my network and it seems like it needs to buffer the file(s)... Im mainly using VLC. Maybe its an option in that player i haven seen? (The mounting of an ISO i found out of with your help) :-)
[18:21] <Raeth> How do you pronounce "thunar"?
[18:25] <crewe> has anyone here gotten compiz-fusion working with xfce and nvidia?
[18:26] <ace> i can only open gnome-system-monitor once before having to open with sudo, and thats only once as well. then i have to relogin or use top/ps aux
[18:45] <manchicken> Best xubuntu screenshot ever: http://www.chicagolug.org/wiki/Image:Manchicken-feb.png
[18:48] <vinnie> dear lord that banana is huge!
[18:55] <manchicken> Well, the baby is small.
[18:55] <manchicken> But yeah, that is a big banana.
[19:33] <gopp> hey what the proper secure way to setup a guest acount
[19:33] <gopp> in ubuntu
[19:33] <gopp> ony access to desktop and gnome
[19:33] <manchicken> Does thunar have any networking abilities like nautilus?  I heard that around August there was supposed to be something like that in there.
[19:35] <gopp> hey
[19:40] <TheSheep> manchicken: no
[19:40] <TheSheep> manchicken: you can use fusesmb and sshfs though
[19:40] <ron_o> hmm, when you suspend shouldn't your text editor info. be saved?
[19:56] <ere4si> in applications - system - users and groups you can set them up with a login name and password by the adduser button - then click the user - select properties - then user privileges tab to set what they can do gopp
[20:56] <stone[no]> I need a light weight app to manage my ipod in xubuntu. Any suggestions?
[21:18] <two_bits> how do I disable the  system beep?
[21:19] <two_bits> anybody?
[22:09] <slimjimflim> if i add a second hard drive will ubuntu automatically use it when the first one runs out? anybody?
[22:09] <maxamillion> slimjimflim: no, it won't
[22:10] <slimjimflim> how can i get it to do that?
[22:10] <maxamillion> slimjimflim: you will need to change your partition table and mount points or if you want it to be treated as one big drive you might need to look into a raid controller
[22:11] <TheSheep_> or you can use lvm
[22:11] <slimjimflim> yea, that sounds familiar
[22:12] <slimjimflim> i was looking into it a while ago
[22:12] <slimjimflim> ty thesheep_
[22:13] <slimjimflim> would i have to make a backup, repartition and the load the backup, thesheep_
[22:13] <TheSheep_> slimjimflim: but setting it up involves formatting the partitions anyways
[22:13] <TheSheep_> slimjimflim: yeah
[22:13] <slimjimflim> hm
[22:13] <TheSheep_> slimjimflim: I think that xubuntu installer can install with lvm automatically
[22:13] <slimjimflim> can or does
[22:14] <TheSheep_> slimjimflim: it's not the default, I think
[22:14] <slimjimflim> ?
[22:14] <slimjimflim> k
[22:14] <maxamillion> oh yeah, i forgot about LVM
[22:14] <maxamillion> i always forget about LVM
[22:15] <zoredache> you can install with lvm with the alternate installer...  It isn't a default choice unless you choose to have things encrypted
[22:15] <maxamillion> i should probably look into learning my way around LVM
[22:15] <slimjimflim> a-partitioning i go, a-partitioning i go, hi ho the dairio a-partitioning i go
[22:15] <maxamillion> yeah...
[22:16] <TheSheep_> patitioning like there is no tomorrow
[22:16] <slimjimflim> zoredache, how much does the encryption slow things down
[22:17] <zoredache> I don't have specific number, but doesn't seem that bad, but then my laptop is almost brand new
[22:18] <zoredache> I ust know that I am too paranoid to risk my data becoming compromised if someone steals my laptop
[22:54] <ICXCNIKA> Hello.
[22:55] <zoredache> hello
[22:57] <ICXCNIKA> I recently got a copy of both Ubuntu and Xubuntu. Are there any pros and cons between the two?
[22:58] <zoredache> they are both *buntu and each has the ability to install the applications from the other.  The only realy differences is the windows manager
[22:58] <ICXCNIKA> Xubuntu seems to appeal much to me. I like minimalism.
[22:59] <zoredache> xfce tends to be very light-weight just a simple local-filesystem browser and gnome seems to try and be a lot more
[22:59] <ICXCNIKA> But I don't really use my computer much save for very basic things (e-mail, internet, word processing)
[22:59] <Vietnow> I just fucked up my system, kind of! who's around to help?
[23:00] <zoredache> xfce tends to need less memory/resources in its default configuration
[23:00] <zoredache> but really it comes down to how you like to work
[23:01] <Vietnow> I followed the guide to install compiz on xubuntu, everything worked perfectly up untill I installed XGL, then typed "compiz" into the terminal
[23:01] <zoredache> Vietnow: describe you problem... if someone can help, and they are available, then they might
[23:01] <nanonyme> ICXCNIKA, it's mostly a matter of which programs come installed. when you talk of ubuntu and xubuntu you are actually talking of ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop meta packages
[23:01] <Vietnow> I've lost the "close, minimize, expand" buttons, I can only open one thing at a time
[23:01] <nanonyme> you can install stuff to either one to make it suit your needs
[23:02] <Vietnow> I uninstalled those components that I just added (all of the compiz stuff) restarted in xfce and the problems are still here
[23:03] <Vietnow> like... I cant even move windows around, they're stuck to the top right corner, and have no file menus
[23:03] <zoredache> Vietnow: try running 'xfwm'
[23:04] <zoredache> err, xfwm4  I think...
[23:04] <Vietnow> I cant even get to the terminal and stay in chatzilla at the same time lol
[23:04] <Vietnow> so I'll try that... and then I'll be right back
[23:13] <Vietnow> Thanks alot, it worked : ]
[23:13] <Vietnow> now time to try compiz again, haha
[23:14] <zoredache> Vietnow: you left to quickly... I was going to tell you, that you shouldn't have to leave
[23:15] <zoredache> Vietnow: all you had to do was use the 'alt-f2' hotkey then type xwfm4
[23:15] <Vietnow> my f keys and media keys dont seem to work
[23:15] <zoredache> :| well that sucks
[23:16] <Vietnow> yeah, I know, I'm not sure why
[23:16] <zoredache> does your keyboard have a 'function-lock' key?
[23:16] <Vietnow> wow!!!!
[23:16] <Vietnow> you rule man
[23:16] <Vietnow> I had no clue what that F lock key was before
[23:19] <zoredache> yeah, it took me a couple weeks to figure that out on my keyboard...  It was really annoying because when I booted to windows the FN-lock would default to the on state
[23:19] <Vietnow> yeah same
[23:19] <zoredache> and when I booted to linux it was off
[23:19] <Vietnow> same with my num lock