[00:05]  * nixternal tries to stay awake in class
[00:06]  * Jucato hums nixternal a lullaby...
[00:07] <Hobbsee> hah
[00:07] <Hobbsee> nixternal: drink more coffee
[00:07] <Jucato> moin nixternal Hobbsee!
[00:07] <Hobbsee> heya!
[00:08] <nixternal> wasabi Jucato and Hobbsee
[00:08] <nixternal> and wolfger
[00:08] <cheguevara> hi
[00:08] <Jucato> sushi nixternal :)
[00:08] <wolfger> and wolfger what?
[00:08] <nixternal> sushi sounds good right about now
[00:08]  * Hobbsee wants her delivery now!
[00:08] <nixternal> Jucato: Eddie is now a legit Ubuntu member...gahahahhaaha...that is funny stuff
[00:08] <Jucato> nixternal: uh oh :/
[00:08] <Jucato> :)
[00:09] <Jucato> darn it! I wasn't around to give my support :(
[00:09]  * Jucato went to bed early...
[00:09] <nixternal> man, he had more support than I ever did
[00:09] <Jucato> hm... probably because there are more people now than back in your day (looooong time ago) :P
[00:12] <nareshov> Any idea where the ktorrent guys hangout at?
[00:12] <nixternal> #ktorrent would be my guess
[00:12] <Jucato> if they have an IRC channel now
[00:13] <Jucato> mostly I think they make use of the forums on their site
[00:42] <Hobbsee> ScottK: ping?
[00:43] <Jucato> hm... I guess nixternal fell asleep after all...
[00:43] <nixternal> heh
[00:43] <nixternal> I wish
[00:43] <nixternal> I am listening to boring presentations on "Organization"
[00:43] <nareshov> =), psychology?
[00:43] <nixternal> I am using my "community" talk about KDE/Kubuntu for mine...hope they are ready for free software
[00:43] <Jucato> hehe :)
[00:44] <nixternal> System Analysis and Design
[00:44] <Hobbsee> nixternal: oh MC member...
[00:44]  * nixternal hides
[00:44] <Jucato> O.o
[00:44] <Hobbsee> nixternal: any idea what the policy on native packages and uvf is?
[00:44] <nixternal> my daughter is txt messaging me on the phone, so I can't fall asleep
[00:45] <nixternal> Hobbsee: yes...pick one :p
[00:45] <Hobbsee> nixternal: :)
[00:45] <Hobbsee> nixternal: all of them
[00:45] <nixternal> there is supposedly some new documentation on the wiki concerning the UVF stuff..but I would guess that native packages should go through the same process as one that isn't
[00:45] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 is what the wiki says
[00:46] <nixternal> and why are you asking me? You know just as much if not more than I do :p
[00:46] <Hobbsee> nixternal: because you're on the MC, and i'm not.
[00:46] <Jucato> no one knows more than nixternal (except Riddell)
[00:46] <nareshov> What's MC?
[00:46] <Hobbsee> nixternal: and i'd prefer to get an official MC stance on the issue, before issuing a blast on the ML.
[00:47] <Jucato> MOTU Council (right?)
[00:47] <nixternal> hahaha, what do I have to say so you can issue a blast? I love it when you crack the long pointy stick!
[00:51] <vorian> good evening!
[00:53] <nixternal> what is good about it?
[00:53] <Jucato> hm... it's not morning. that's what :)
[00:53] <Jucato> (well it's morning here so...)
[00:53] <vorian> snow!
[00:53] <nixternal> Jucato: yes you were right btw
[00:54] <vorian> I just drove from Cleveland to south of Columbus
[00:54] <nixternal> no snow in Chicago now for over a week...but it has been pretty cold
[00:54] <vorian> It was awesome
[00:54] <vorian> I thought I was going to die every 15 min or so
[00:54] <nixternal> hahaha
[00:54] <Jucato> die every 15 minutes, resurrect every 2 minutes after that :)
[00:54] <nixternal> you know, I used to be like that too, until I drove through the turnpike in PA during a blizzard....I had to change my shorts after that one
[00:55] <Hobbsee> nixternal: you have to make sur ethe policy is written on the freeze exception page
[00:55] <vorian> Jucato: you are correct :)
[00:55] <vorian> lol
[00:55] <Jucato> nixternal: you were wearing just shorts during a blizzard? O.o
[00:55] <nixternal> Hobbsee: do you really think that it matters if the package is ubuntu only or not? I think it should be all packages in Universe are susceptable to the rules
[00:55] <vorian> Jucato: it's an american thing (shorts = underwear)
[00:56] <Jucato> aaah, like boxers... right :)
[00:56] <vorian> aye
[00:56] <vorian> :)
[00:56] <nixternal> dun matter, it could be tighty-whities
[00:56] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i think so, yeah
[00:56] <vorian> I have two approved freeze exceptions if someone wants the honors ....
[00:57] <nixternal> for?
[00:57] <Jucato> how appropriate.. talking about blizzards, snow, and freezes :)
[00:57] <nixternal> hehe
[00:57] <vorian> ktorrent and kdiamond
[00:58]  * Jucato gives the floor back to Hobbsee before she takes out the stick on me
[00:58] <vorian> bug 192296
[00:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192296 in kdiamond-kde4 "[ff exception] New Upstream Release for Kdiamond [kde4]" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192296
[00:58] <nixternal> vorian: have you talked to jdong about ktorrent?
[00:58] <vorian> nixternal: yep, he gave the nod
[00:58] <vorian> that's bug 192812
[00:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192812 in ktorrent-kde4 "[FF exception] New upstream release ktorrent-kde4 3.0.0 " [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192812
[00:58] <Jucato> oh btw Hobbsee, a countrymate of mine, who says he's your schoolmate (janm is his IRC nick) is looking for Ubuntu CD's in the sydney area
[00:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: my schoolmate?
[00:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: for Macquarie uni?
[00:59] <Jucato> [21:47] <janm> Knightlust: good idea. she's goes to my school perhaps she can bring some next week!
[01:00] <Jucato> Hobbsee: that's all I know... :)
[01:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: hrm.  might be for the same thing
[01:02] <nixternal> vorian: ktorrent-kde4_3.0.0.orig.tar.bz2?
[01:02] <nixternal> shouldn't that be .gz
[01:02] <vorian> hmmmmm
[01:03] <vorian> well, I did uupdate and it produced a tar.bz2
[01:03] <nixternal> you have the acks already, so they are just awaiting upload
[01:03] <vorian> yah
[01:03] <vorian> :)
[01:03] <nixternal> oh great, this idiot got on the computer here durng break and starts playing stupid childish youtube videos
[01:03] <nixternal> time to go for a break, otherwise I might snap and start breaking things
[01:03] <nixternal> bbiaf
[01:03] <ryanakca> nixternal: heh, for some reason I'm getting spam sent to you... http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/nixternalspam.png
[01:04] <Jucato> hah yeah that was my problem with allee's spam too :)
[01:04] <blueyed> you're in bcc maybe? have you looked at the headers? (delivered-for and such)
[01:05] <Jucato> yeah that was the explanation given to me.. :)
[01:05] <Jucato> but it's still funny to see their spam in my inbox :D
[01:06]  * ryanakca shrugs... don't see a delivered-for... meh. It says nixternal in the message, not ryanakca... *grumbles and wonders how anything with the string 'buy cialis online' got through GMail's spam filter*
[01:11] <nixternal> damn, now you know where I buy my Cialis
[01:11] <cheguevara> lol
[01:11] <Jucato> hahah :)
[01:12] <nixternal> I get those emails for everyone...thankfully Google catches it
[01:12] <nixternal> I can't believe this
[01:12] <Jucato> oh I just noticed that I just got spam from allee and jpatrick too :)
[01:12] <nixternal> we are watching "Male Restroom Etiquette" on YouTube because of this stupid kid
[01:13] <wolfger> nixternal: you used my name in vain earlier, but I don't quite understand the context?
[01:13] <nixternal> I did?
[01:13] <wolfger> yeah, you said "and wolfger"
[01:13] <nixternal> oh, saying hi
[01:13] <wolfger> ah, ok
[01:14] <nixternal> hrmm, I wish I had my Backtraq CD, I would go ahead and shutdown the computer hooked to the projector
[01:14] <wolfger> I thought it was odd, because I'd just sat down at my computer, and hadn't actually been on irc up to that point. You're psychic, man
[01:14] <nixternal> you changed your nick :)
[01:14] <nixternal> that's what gave it away
[01:20] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: because gmail's spam filter *sucks*
[01:21] <Jucato> Hobbsee: but based on the ratio of spam that I get in kmail and spam that gets blocked, I'd say it's good :)
[01:22] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:23] <hads> GMail thinks I'm a spammer
[01:23] <Hobbsee> fastmail's is better
[01:26] <nixternal> It also pledged not to sue open-source developers who create noncommercial software based on Microsoft's protocols.
[01:27] <nixternal> hahaha, that's because nobody bases their software off of Microsoft's garbage :)
[01:27] <Jucato> and if you want to create commercial software, you need patent license agreement :)
[03:04] <nixternal> muhahaha, I got um hook, line, and sinker with my "Organization Talk" I whipped up using KDE as my organization
[03:33] <freeflying> any core developer can do me a sponsor upload? thanks. http://linuxfire.com.cn/~freeflying/skim.debdiff
[04:47] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Pong
[04:52] <Hobbsee> see query
[07:30] <loll>  I have some source code and have identified an error i how it tries to identify PAGE_SIZE, however I do not know if my workaround actually solves it, and need a hand
[08:00] <yao_ziyuan> Riddell, smarter:
[08:00] <yao_ziyuan> how is that bug now?
[08:59] <Riddell> davmor2: did you try the new alternates?
[08:59] <davmor2> burning them currently
[09:00] <davmor2> Riddell: life got in the way last night :)
[09:00]  * Riddell crosses fingers
[09:00] <davmor2> Riddell: aren't there new lives too?
[09:01] <Riddell> so there are, and they seem to have all the packages
[09:01] <Riddell> davmor2: we should be organised and coordinate, which are you downloading?
[09:03] <davmor2> all the current from this morning.  burning 64bit first
[09:04] <Riddell> davmor2: I'll start with live 32 bit then
[09:06] <davmor2> Riddell: Because of the wonderful way in which I'm funded (oh no that's the BBC sorry) I got two test machines.  Both 64bit.  But I run a 32bit on my laptop so while the 64 bit is installing I'm burning the 32 bit right the way through my collection :)
[09:09] <Riddell> how do you burn whilE installing?
[09:12] <davmor2> Riddell: 3 machines total main machine I download and burn on and 2 test machine :)
[09:18] <davmor2> Riddell: Don't you just love mother-in-laws who like to buy their son-in-laws laptop's for helping them out. :)
[09:52] <davmor2> Riddell:  It's looking more like Kubuntu :)
[09:56] <davmor2> \o/ Riddell it works and it looks like Kubuntu :)
[09:57] <Riddell> awooga
[10:01] <davmor2> I'm only really testing that it installs this late in the game.  Plus I only got this morning :)
[10:03] <Riddell> me too, I'm going to fosdem later
[10:04] <davmor2> Riddell: thought you'd already gone :)
[10:09] <Riddell> davmor2: don't suppose you have a windows machine too? wubi needs testing
[10:09] <jpatrick> Jucato: spam?
[10:09] <Riddell> the windows machine here doesn't have enough disk space (needs 10gigs)
[10:09] <Riddell> emonkey: did you say you wanted to help with iso testing? :)
[10:10] <davmor2> Not at present.  But that can be sorted but won't be till tonight.
[10:10] <Jucato> jpatrick: "Take Advantage of Our Software Prices" From: "Ben Isaac" <motodangt@charter.net> To: jpatrick@kubuntu.org
[10:10] <emonkey> Riddell, it's on my todo on my wiki site
[10:11] <Riddell> emonkey: we need testers now if you are able
[10:11]  * emonkey is currently in an english lesson, but I'll contact you later today
[10:12] <Riddell> ok, thanks http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20080221.1/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20080221.1/ for when you can start downloading
[10:16] <txwikinger> they are both the same, right?
[10:16] <Riddell> txwikinger: daily-live is desktop, daily is alternate
[10:16] <Riddell> you end up with the same thing
[10:17] <txwikinger> ah ok :)
[10:18]  * txwikinger is downloading
[10:18]  * emonkey has finished download
[10:18] <Riddell> emonkey: university connection?
[10:18] <emonkey> university network is nice
[10:18] <Riddell> ah, I remember the days..
[10:19]  * txwikinger is still tired from giving Kubuntu bug-triage tutorial at LUG last night
[10:19] <davmor2> don't forget to log you results on the tracker.  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ :)
[10:19] <Riddell> txwikinger: oh?  where was that?
[10:19] <txwikinger> SBLUG (Birmingham)
[10:19] <jpatrick> txwikinger: brilliant!
[10:20] <Riddell> txwikinger: birmingham as in that suburb of wolverhampton?
[10:20] <txwikinger> Riddell: hehe yes :D
[10:20] <Riddell> didn't even know there was an active lug there
[10:20] <txwikinger> Yes.. we always meet at Bimingham University
[10:20] <davmor2> Riddell: get it right little suburb of Wolves ;)
[10:22] <davmor2> Riddell: Laptop fades to black.  Is there a way to stop the Fade?
[10:22] <Riddell> davmor2: when does it do that?
[10:22]  * txwikinger dreads writing abstracts for educational conferences that have to be sent next week
[10:22] <davmor2> once your logged onto the machine
[10:23] <davmor2> Riddell: hitting brightness up stops it but it happens each time I reboot.
[10:23] <Riddell> txwikinger: do write a 1 line summary at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TeamReports/February2008 if you can (under Kubuntu)
[10:23] <txwikinger> k
[10:23] <Riddell> davmor2: hmm, sounds like guidance-power-manager is doing something bad
[10:24] <davmor2> Riddell: Where's the setting?
[10:24] <Riddell> click the batter icon and drag brightness to the right
[10:24] <Riddell> I know someone had a problem copying settings from another computer where the brightness had 6 steps max and his new one had 100 so it was set to 6 by default
[10:26] <davmor2> Riddell: no battery.  Just unplugged the power and there's no battery icon :(
[10:27] <Riddell> davmor2: is guidance-power-manager running?
[10:29] <txwikinger> Riddell: done
[10:30] <Riddell> thanks
[10:34] <emonkey> chroom
[10:35] <davmor2> Riddell:  How can I find out I tried running it and I get a long list of text
[10:41] <sigma_1234> so whens hardy 5 due out? any major updates?
[10:47] <davmor2> sigma_1234: later today as long as we can get all the tests done
[10:56] <davmor2> Riddell: live cd is suffering from bug 194007
[10:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194007 in ubiquity "Ubiquity keyboard is not being setup after world map." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194007
[10:57] <davmor2> other than that it seems to be going okay
[11:06] <Riddell> davmor2: mm, I just noticed that
[11:07] <davmor2> Riddell: how do I check to see if guidance-power-manager is running?
[11:07] <Riddell> davmor2: ps -ef | grep guidance-
[11:08] <davmor2> Riddell: No it's not running
[11:09] <Riddell> so must be something deeper in hal/acpi/something
[11:09] <Riddell> although I've no idea what
[11:10] <davmor2> I will bug report it after what do you want it under?
[11:11] <Riddell> davmor2: umm, hard to say since we have no idea what could cause it
[11:11] <Riddell> davmor2: it makes the computer unusable I take it?
[11:11] <Riddell> davmor2: does it happen when logging in? does it happen on the live CD?
[11:12] <davmor2> Riddell: No you just hit brightness up.  But if you don't know your just presented with a black screen
[11:12] <Riddell> hmm, it could be kmilo
[11:12] <seaLne> Riddell: hotel is not bad
[11:13] <Riddell> seaLne: excellent
[11:14] <davmor2> Riddell: It doesn't happen with the initial login screen only happens on the main screen once you've logged in
[11:14] <Riddell> davmor2: try running  "dcop kded kmilod disable" first
[11:15] <davmor2> Riddell: Running the live cd now hang on
[11:15] <davmor2> Riddell: yes it fades to black on the live cd too
[11:16] <Riddell> davmor2: even running that dcop command first?
[11:16] <davmor2> When do I run it? before I log in?
[11:16] <Riddell> after
[11:17] <davmor2> Riddell: I'll try it now will I need to reboot if so I'll drop back the the installed system
[11:17] <Riddell> no
[11:19] <davmor2> Riddell: I need to up the brightness to make it work though so how will I know if it has worked?
[11:20] <davmor2> Riddell: I can't see the screen to type it in otherwise :)
[11:20] <davmor2> Riddell: Could I add it as a boot perameter?
[11:21] <Riddell> no, it talks to kded which is started along with kde
[11:21] <Riddell> so it dims without any keystrokes?
[11:21] <Riddell> then pressing brightness up fixes it?
[11:22] <Riddell> davmor2: you can also   sudo rm /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kmilod.so  before logging in
[11:22] <davmor2> Riddell: Yes that right, on both counts.  However once you reboot it dims back down again.
[11:24] <davmor2> Riddell: you also lose the real terminals Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc.  Once you've logged in which would freak people out :)
[11:25] <davmor2> I'll just reboot into the installed version and try it out then
[11:28] <davmor2> Riddell: on installed removed kmilod still fades
[11:30] <Riddell> ok, I'm out of ideas
[11:30] <Riddell> try asking mjg59 if he knows
[11:31] <davmor2> I'll just report it so I can carry on testing :)
[11:31] <Riddell> report on hal maybe, as good a guess as any
[11:32] <davmor2> Riddell: I'll leave it blank for now but I'll post the bug here as soon as I get a chance
[11:36] <emonkey> Riddell, it doesn't make sense to test the ISOs with virtualbox, or does it?
[11:37] <Riddell> emonkey: yes it does
[11:41] <Riddell> davmor2: might be worth trying guidance again, sudo rm /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop  before logging in?
[11:46] <davmor2> Riddell: bingo
[11:48] <davmor2> It's staying light and bright now :)
[11:50] <Riddell> hrm
[11:51] <davmor2> Riddell:  Leave it for latter I'll reinstall Kub on my laptop Tuesday and we can sort it out from there.
[12:02] <Artemis__Fowl> Why are there no KDE4 SVN packages? It would be nice to have unstable SVN packages, just like openSuSE does
[12:06] <Riddell> volunteers welcome
[12:06] <Jucato> :)
[12:07] <davmor2> Riddell: Have you setup a wiki page for alpha 5 or not?
[12:07] <Riddell> davmor2: a stub
[12:08] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/Kubuntu
[12:09] <davmor2> np's I was just going to say you could add our temporary nasty work round :)
[12:09] <Riddell> well I don't /think/ it's a general problem
[12:10] <Riddell> I suspect it's something specific to you
[12:10] <Riddell> at least nobody else has complained, I havn't seen it and there's not been any change to guidance
[12:12] <davmor2> ok.
[12:13] <Riddell> there's some reason why it thinks the default is a low value
[12:13] <Riddell> possibly acpi has changed to give it more granuality
[12:13] <davmor2> pass over my head :(
[12:14] <Riddell> davmor2: can you put ~/.kde/share/config/power-managerrc somewhere
[12:15] <davmor2> not today moving onto Ubuntu now but I will tonight or tomorrow for you
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> haha.... Canonical sent out their attachement in DOC :)
[12:28] <Riddell> blame the travel agent
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[14:39]  * seaLne found a sleeping apachelogger in the room when he got back
[14:39] <seaLne> luckily it was me that took my laptop
[15:23] <buz> hmm
[15:23] <buz> amarok wont detect my ipod shuffle
[15:23] <buz> but kde displays it, ipod icon and all thath
[15:23] <buz> and it used to work with gutsy
[15:56] <seele> has anyone tested ubiquity lately?  yesterday's daily build hangs during hardware configuration but i only tested it on one machine
[16:03] <nareshov> hibernate/suspend work fine from kde4 ?
[16:41] <jpatrick> RIDDELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[16:41] <jpatrick> :)
[16:41] <mhb> we're losing him!
[16:41] <nosrednaekim> yaa!
[16:43]  * jpatrick wants a @kde/ cloak
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick » traitor....
[16:45] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: why? :) this is *K*ubuntu after all :)
[16:45] <mhb> heh
[16:45] <mhb> you call him a traitor, but it's actually me who's installing Visual C# right now
[16:45]  * nosrednaekim remotely shocks mhb
[16:45] <jpatrick> mhb: gah
[16:46] <jpatrick> mhb: I'm _forced_ to do VB at school
[16:46] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: but @kde/ubuntu.member.jpatrick would look hot
[16:46] <mhb> jpatrick: visual basic?
[16:46] <mhb> jpatrick: now that's even worse
[16:46] <jpatrick> mhb: I hate it
[16:47] <mhb> jpatrick: but I install the C# thing because of school, too
[16:47]  * apachelogger is a vb.net lova
[16:47] <jpatrick> mhb: yeah, but I'd rather they have us learn real languages
[16:48] <mhb> jpatrick: like Pascal? :o)
[16:48] <jpatrick> mhb: Perl
[16:48] <seaLne> jpatrick: apparently freenode won't give masks like that, atleast they didn't used to
[16:49] <jpatrick> seaLne: they do /whois nalioth for example
[16:49] <seaLne> oh, maybe it was just to complicated before for however they did it
[16:54] <gribelu> is firefox 3b3 sluggish for you guys? I don't know how it's like under gnome because i only have kde4
[16:54] <gribelu> it's like un-accelerated 2D or something for me
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> firefox is always like that
[16:58] <gribelu> nah 2.0 doesn't do that here
[16:59] <gribelu> it isn't fast .. just way faster scrolling etc. than 3.0
[17:01] <cheguevara> gribelu, what video driver
[17:03] <gribelu> nvidia ofcourse heh
[17:03] <gribelu> i want an intel
[17:03] <manchicken> The new intel drivers rock.
[17:04] <cheguevara> are the latest updates for agressive exa any good?
[17:04] <cheguevara> i still got xaa
[17:04] <cheguevara> greey exa
[17:04] <cheguevara> *greedy
[17:06]  * nosrednaekim pats his ATI
[17:15] <cheguevara> meh
[17:15] <cheguevara> exa is still slower then xaa here
[17:16] <serega> Hey!
[17:18] <jpatrick> hey serega!
[17:18] <serega> I'm back guys
[17:18] <serega> sorry my absence
[17:19] <serega> how are you all? I know nothing about kubuntu progress :(
[17:19] <jpatrick> no worries, we're missing Riddell again :)
[17:20] <serega> missing Riddell?
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> serega » his computer problem went down.
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> *probably
[17:21] <serega> bad :(
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> serega » hows it going w/ you?
[17:21] <jpatrick> He'll be back
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> oh.. didn't he go over to FOSDEM?
[17:22] <jpatrick> back here
[17:22] <serega> there was some changes at my job...
[17:22] <serega> so, guys, there will be two Hardy releases?
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> yep
[17:23] <serega> titanic work I think)
[17:25]  * serega worries he is weak on KDE4 :(
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> weak?
[17:26] <serega> no experience of development
[17:28] <serega> good luck. see ya
[17:35] <jpatrick> seaLne: /whois sabdfl - another ;)
[18:50] <seele> whats the difference between submitting a bug to /ubiquity/+filebug and /ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug or is it the same thing?
[18:51] <stdin> one is filed against the project, the other is filed against the source package
[18:51] <seele> when do i use which one?
[18:51] <seele> i found a problem in yesterday's daily build
[18:51] <stdin> file bugs against the package, they can always be set to also effects the project
[18:51] <seele> ok
[19:01] <jpatrick> cheguevara: ##fix_your_connection
[19:02] <cheguevara> jpatrick, my connection is fine
[19:02] <cheguevara> messing around with Xorg.conf :P
[19:02] <jpatrick> cheguevara: what client? konversation?
[19:02] <cheguevara> xchat
[19:02] <jpatrick> ah...
[19:02] <cheguevara> got EXA to work as good as XAA, so happy now :)
[19:15] <jpatrick> nixternal: ping
[19:17] <jpatrick> nixternal: I dumped some promotional stuff here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-promo
[19:21] <nixternal> yo yo
[19:21] <nixternal> groovy
[19:21] <nixternal> hey, who is doing our monthly reports? coreymon was the person doing them, but I haven't seen anything much
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> I'd do it,but I have no clue whats been going on
[19:22] <nixternal> heh, me either
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> Riddell asked at the last meeting
[19:23]  * jpatrick hasn't been writing meeting minutes
[19:23] <nixternal> I am going to go ahead and update our Monthly Report
[19:23] <nixternal> we need to use Mootbot for our meetings
[19:24] <nixternal> it makes writing up the minutes much easier
[19:24]  * jpatrick dislikes Mootbot
[19:24] <nixternal> I like how it breaks each TOPIC down in to easy to read IRC logs
[19:24] <jpatrick> I dislike how it floods the channel
[19:26] <nixternal> doesn't flood anymore than people chit-chatting really
[19:28] <nixternal> how man new members did we just approve?
[19:28] <nixternal> 3?
[19:29] <jpatrick> 3
[19:29] <nosrednaekim> last meeting?
[19:29] <nixternal> ya
[19:29] <nixternal> ~kubuntu-members list them
[20:02] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Ping
[20:02] <jpatrick> nabend neversfelde
[20:04] <neversfelde> nabend jpatrick
[20:06] <jpatrick> neversfelde: Glückwünsche! (?)
[20:07] <neversfelde> jpatrick: thanks (Glückwunsch)^^
[20:07] <jpatrick> :)
[20:08] <neversfelde> jpatrick: your german is very godd, did you learn it at school?
[20:08] <jpatrick> neversfelde: learnt it for a few months last year
[20:09] <neversfelde> jpatrick: than you are a talent in learning new languages :)
[20:10] <blueyed> xRaich[o]2x: pong
[20:10] <jpatrick> neversfelde: for human languages I know English, German, French (understand), Spanish and Catalan
[20:10] <jpatrick> welcome back ScottK!
[20:11] <ScottK> Thanks
[20:11] <neversfelde> jpatrick: not bad
[20:12] <jpatrick> neversfelde: danke
[20:12] <xRaich[o]2x> blueyed: Hey Dude, long time not seen ;). Care to join #kubuntu-de-offtopic?
[20:41] <yuriy> jpatrick: did you do the kubuntu leaflet or you just put it up in bzr?
[20:41] <jpatrick> yuriy: kwwii's work
[20:42] <jpatrick> yuriy: all I did was the translations
[20:45] <yuriy> jpatrick: oh. i was wondering why it said ubuntulinux.org at the bottom and not ubuntu.com
[20:45] <yuriy> also it's a nice flyer but i don't think it's newbie friendly enough
[20:46] <jpatrick> use the source and bzr push ;)
[20:51]  * yuriy should have taken out the german/spanish communities part before printing this out
[20:52] <jpatrick> lol
[21:17] <ScottK> The way I read the Dept of State web site, it sounds like I don't need a visa for the Czech Republic.  I'm curious if others (US citizens) have reached the same conclusions?
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> oh bleh....
[21:27] <ScottK> Yeah, well it's not a question you want to find out you had the wrong answer to at the last minute.
[21:27] <jpatrick> you can ask Canonical for a letter to send up the process I guess
[21:31] <ScottK> jpatrick: Except it appears no Visa is required at all, so there is no process.
[21:31] <nosrednaekim> oh.. I read that wrong! I thoughtit said you DID need a visa :)
[21:33] <jpatrick> ah, good
[21:34]  * ScottK is looking for verification that maybe someone else has looked too and agrees.
[21:47] <seele> ScottK: hold on i'll look
[21:47] <seele> there are technically two dept of state sites and they have different information
[21:48] <seele> i dont know why.. the only reason i know is because they were a client at some point
[21:49] <seele> is the Czech Republic part of the EU?
[21:49] <seele> ScottK: we do not need a visa
[21:49] <jpatrick> seele: yes, since 2004
[21:52] <seele> hmm.. this says we need proof of health insurance?  even for short-term visitors?
[22:16] <ScottK> seele: Thanks.
[22:21]  * yuriy printed out a very nice flyer from kde-promo on nice paper and is now finding the typos
[22:33] <yuriy> oh great, the person used a commercial font in this
[23:02] <yuriy> ok scribus is being wacky, i give up. people get to look at a brochure that says "The K Desktop Envionment"
[23:03] <jpatrick> where?
[23:03] <blueyed> yuriy: this should be easy to fix if it's only the text.
[23:03] <yuriy> jpatrick:
[23:03] <yuriy> jpatrick:
[23:03] <yuriy> 18:05 < blueyed> yuriy: this should be easy to fix if it's only the text. [18:06]
[23:03] <jpatrick> ...
[23:04] <yuriy> sorry, my terminal freaked out
[23:04] <blueyed> it's 00:03?! ;)
[23:04] <jpatrick> blueyed: yep
[23:04] <yuriy> http://home.iitk.ac.in/~chintal/downloads/KDE/
[23:04] <ScottK> yuriy: Which Scribus?
[23:05] <ScottK> (being whacky)
[23:05] <yuriy> ScottK: 1.3.3.11.dfsg-1ubuntu3 (hardy)
[23:06] <ScottK> Urgh.
[23:06] <jpatrick> yuriy: don't like the font
[23:06] <ScottK> What kind of whacky?
[23:06] <ScottK> yuriy: ^^
[23:06] <yuriy> it's losing some of the text in the linked flyer
[23:06] <yuriy> though it _could_ partially be me not knowing how to use scribus
[23:07] <yuriy> or could do with the font
[23:07] <yuriy> jpatrick: which font?
[23:07] <jpatrick> yuriy: on the leaflet
[23:07] <ScottK> yuriy: Scribus upstream does read Ubuntu Scribus bugs.
[23:07] <ScottK> It might be worth filing.
[23:08] <yuriy> jpatrick: if you mean the one it's using for titles, I kind of like it, but it's non-free (in both senses)
[23:09] <jpatrick> yuriy: normal text I meant
[23:09] <yuriy> hmm the text shows up if i use deja vu, but not URW gothic
[23:09] <ScottK> Text seems fat to me.
[23:10] <yuriy> to replace the kabel book font, that is
[23:10] <yuriy> jpatrick: normal text is just bitstream vera, best free font i know of actually (and sadly) until the liberation fonts came out
[23:11] <jpatrick> hmm
[23:42] <mhb> ScottK: of course you don't need one!
[23:42] <mhb> ScottK: meh, you should have asked me
[23:43] <mhb> I wonder which states actually *need* a visa to get here
[23:43] <mhb> I don't think there are many
[23:52] <neversfelde> i'd love to go to prague again. My last visit was in 2000
[23:54]  * ryanakca has never been off the continent...
[23:54] <ryanakca> s/the/this/g
[23:54] <ryanakca> :(
[23:55]  * neversfelde has never been in North America
[23:56] <neversfelde> also in the south ;)