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storbeckhola, Same errors?00:00
ax1sHey I need some info in playing dvds00:00
jussi01!dvd | ax1s00:00
ubotuax1s: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs00:00
ax1sokay i've done that00:00
ax1snever had a problem00:00
holastorbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56908/00:00
stdinvlt: did you use -X  or -Y ?00:00
ax1sstill having problems playing certain discs00:00
ax1susing vlc00:00
ax1seven tried the libcss2.sh00:01
storbeckYou didn't do the ln in the right directory00:01
storbeckIt still isn't finding config.h00:01
holastorbeck:lrwxrwxrwx 1 mauri mauri    12 2008-02-22 00:57 config.h -> autoconfig.h00:01
ax1sI just bought the complete series of Dr Katz00:01
ax1sand i can't watch it00:01
ax1s=[00:01
Oloughlin75is there a linux program thatll convert from wma to mp3?00:02
Hydrogen!lamp00:02
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:02
storbeckhola, one second00:03
stdinOloughlin75: try soundkonverter00:04
nblracerhey00:04
Oloughlin75thanks stdin00:04
ax1scan someone please help me play dvds00:05
ax1si can play 99% of them except the ones i just bought00:05
ax1sthe fbi warnings play.. the dvd menus play .. the video starts to play.. then it just stops00:05
nblracerthere is a good link in the wikis00:05
ax1son all 13 discs .. on 2 computers00:05
nblraceroh00:06
ax1splays fine in my regular dvd player =[00:06
nblraceri was on a few weeks ago, looking to get help on setting a up a small ubuntu network, with roming profiles00:07
holastorbeck: are you there00:07
vltstdin: of course.00:08
nblracerand i cant just mount ther profile on a server00:08
nblracersince it it will be to slow and flood the network00:08
Oloughlin75stdin: it looks like soundkonverter only converters TO wma or ogg?00:08
ax1sjust abruptly quits..   vls reports only, "00:09
ax1sNo accelerated IMDCT transform found00:09
ax1s[00000281] main playlist: nothing to play00:09
ax1svlc*00:09
storbeckhola, one minute00:10
holastorbeck: ok ok only becouse here is too late00:11
ax1slibdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.10 from http://dvd.sf.net00:11
ax1slibdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access00:11
stdinOloughlin75: I've never had to convert wma so I'm not sure, I guess you could try soundconverter, it used gstreamer so it has a different backend00:11
Oloughlin75stdin: it wont convert TO mp300:12
Oloughlin75oh nvm00:12
Oloughlin75!lame00:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:12
Oloughlin75!find lame00:13
ax1slibdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.10 from http://dvd.sf.net00:13
ax1slibdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access00:13
ubotuFound: flamerobin, flamethrower, glame, libtwolame-dev, libtwolame0 (and 9 others)00:13
ax1serp00:13
holastorbeck: are you there00:15
holastorbeck: do you think that this cam could work?00:16
ax1sso whats the deal. .  linux can't play certain dvds00:16
Arwenwhich kinds?00:17
Oloughlin75!wma00:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:17
ax1sParamount?00:17
ax1s200700:17
storbeckhola, hold on00:18
holastorbeck: ok00:18
holatell me what i have to do00:18
ax1swow so i just ran through the instructions at the restricted formats page00:21
ax1sand it installed a shwack of gnome libraries.. and my dvds still quit while playing00:21
ax1sthis is sweet00:22
ax1si have been using buntu for years and now this00:22
ax1swhat have I done?00:22
t00nahey, the latest xine update broke my sound.00:25
holastorbeck: when do you think to be available00:25
t00naIt won't play anything.00:25
holastorbeck: it is too late here00:25
ax1st00na: see if it broke dvds too00:25
t00nanot even the sound when an error message comes up.00:25
ax1smy dvd playback quits00:25
t00naI'm using Kubuntu Gutsy.00:26
ax1stoona is hardy known to break dvd playback?00:26
ax1scss etc00:26
t00naax1s: I don't know a thing about it.00:26
stdinhardy support is in #ubuntu+100:26
t00naAll I know that my sound isn't working and it's pissing me off.00:27
ax1sthx stdin00:27
t00naCould someone please help?00:27
storbeckWell, I have to get going00:27
storbeckBut this is your problem.00:27
t00naBefore the update, sound worked, now it doesn't.00:27
holastorbeck: i dont understand00:28
holastorbeck: have you to go00:28
ax1soh wait00:28
ax1si am using gutsy what am i thinking00:28
ax1suhg00:28
storbeckYou need to go to your /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/include/linux00:29
storbeckThen do: sudo ln -s autoconfig.h config.h00:29
storbeckThat will sove the config.h not being found problem00:29
t00nastorbeck: me?00:29
storbeckBut you'll get more errors. So work on those00:29
storbeckNo, hola00:29
holastorbeck: no what00:29
ax1si think my mplayer00:30
ax1ssaid something about that00:30
storbeckToodles.00:30
ax1sconfig.h00:30
storbeckhola, Hopefully someone else will help you.00:30
ax1swill this apply to me too? storbeck?00:30
ax1s;D00:30
storbeckidk ax1s. You're welcome to try it00:30
ax1sthx g .. cya later =] =]00:30
ax1s-sigh00:30
holastorbeck: im waited you until now....00:31
Hydrogen!php00:36
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:36
ax1sseriously wtc00:36
ax1swtf00:36
ax1sthe dvds play on my windows machine upstairs00:36
ax1sright past the parts that make my vplayers crash on buntu00:37
ax1sthis is garbage00:37
ax1si am furious00:37
BluesKajax1s, have you got libdvdcss2 , w32codecs, libxine1-ffmpeg installed ?00:38
ax1sall are the newest version00:39
ax1swhen vlc runs tho it says its using 1.5.2  tho00:40
ax1s?00:40
BluesKajax1s, try kaffeine00:42
ax1sits giving me better output at least, thx BluesKaj00:44
BluesKajax1s, do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras00:44
ax1slibdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access   ??  only libdvdcss2 was installed?00:44
ax1syes00:45
BluesKajlibdvdcss2 is the version you need00:45
ax1si only installed libdvdcss200:45
ax1sthis is queer00:45
BluesKajthat's it then00:46
Hydrogenphp is definatly misbehaving for me...00:46
HydrogenFatal error: Unknown: Failed opening required '/home/hydrogen/public_html/blahblahblah/index.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 000:46
BluesKajlibdvdcss2 is for dvd DRM playback00:46
ax1syah and i installed that00:46
ax1show come every player i have is reported 1.5.2 is installed ?00:47
ax1saptitude isn't finding anything except libdvdcss200:47
stdinax1s: have you checked what version libdvdcss2 is?00:47
BluesKajax1s, have you done a sudo apt-get update , since your upgrade ?00:48
ax1syes fully upgraded00:48
Hydrogenis there some trick to making php actually work in foobuntu?00:48
ax1sstdin:  I'm guessing 1.5.2 ?00:48
ax1sor whatever i have00:48
BluesKajax1s, just do ' sudo apt-get update ' in the konsole , please00:49
ax1si just did again00:49
ax1s0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded00:49
ax1supdated/upgraded00:49
* BluesKaj pauses for a cup of tea ....00:50
NickPrestaHydrogen, try chmod'ing the file to 644. That should fix things up.00:50
ax1slibdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 1.1.7 from http://xine.sf.net00:51
ax1slibdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access00:51
ax1slibdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.00:51
ax1slibdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading00:51
ax1slibdvdnav: vm: faild to open/read the DVD00:51
Daisuke_Idoroot_____: you are either exceptionally brave or exceptionally dumb.  no offense meant, but...  root?00:51
Daisuke_Ido!paste | ax1s00:52
ubotuax1s: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:52
HydrogenNickPresta: no.. that creates a whole lot more errors00:52
NickPrestaHydrogen, apache has to be able to read the file (globally readable).00:52
HydrogenNickPresta: I'd believe you if I didn't see the amount of errors grow by a factor of ten when I did that00:53
Jahromeohi guys what ram amount does 32 bit kubuntu recognize (4gb max)00:53
Hydrogenhowever, I have emperical evidence that that what you said is not true.. so00:53
NickPrestaHydrogen, the same type of errors? Paste all the new errors you're getting to a pastebin.00:54
Jahromeohi guys what ram amount does 32 bit kubuntu recognize (4gb max)?00:55
Jahromeoand what is the diff between using 64 as opposed to 32 bit other than more ram?00:55
ax1sJahromeo:  that's about it00:55
ax1sother then the y203800:55
Jahromeoare 64 bit packages as supported as 32?00:56
ax1snope00:56
Jahromeoe.g. 64 bit win xp has lack of drivers while 32 bit doesnt00:56
BluesKajnope00:56
Jahromeois it the same with kubuntu/ubuntu00:56
ax1s64 bit is lacking00:56
ax1syou have to use 32 bit java00:56
ax1setc00:56
NickPrestaJahromeo, there are significant problems with Flash (and I believe some with Java)00:56
ax1sits a pain00:56
Jahromeohmmm so is it worth it me running 64 bit? - im running a q6600 - 2.4ghz quad with 4gb ddr2 80000:56
ax1snot for daily desktop use00:57
HydrogenNickPresta: I chased it down.. was a directory elsewhere that didn't have the executable bit set00:57
ax1sonly if you need 64 bit memory mapping for programming/video editing00:57
Jahromeodamn i just downloaded 64 bit install :(00:57
Jahromeomy 32 bit disk i got is bust00:57
Daisuke_IdoJahromeo: download again :D00:57
BluesKajJahromeo, I switched back to x8600:57
Jahromeok - im on 384kbs line :(00:57
Jahromeoso dling that distro takes some time :P00:57
NickPrestaHydrogen, ;)00:58
ax1sBluesKaj:  KAFFEINE WORKS ?!??!00:58
BluesKajkaffeine rocks :)00:59
ax1sBluesKaj: *HUGS*KISS*CREEPYSTARE00:59
ax1soh wait00:59
ax1si take that all back00:59
ax1slol00:59
fideliohi. need help with fstab. what is the command to access and write into fat32 partition?00:59
ax1sthe source can't be read.. maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or the source doesn't contain any data00:59
BluesKajnow now , control yerself00:59
ax1sawww me00:59
BluesKajax1s, try a non commercial dvd01:00
ax1sthey work01:01
ax1salso the commercial dvd  plays.. up untill certain points01:02
ax1sits like my css is not upgraded01:02
ax1si'm trying different versions now01:02
Daisuke_Idolibdvdcss201:02
ax1syeah which is 1.2.5 which isn't working for this new dvd i just got01:02
Daisuke_Idoit's not available in the regular repos, look in !medibuntu01:02
ax1syah i have it added thx Daisuke_Ido01:02
Daisuke_Idoahh01:03
Daisuke_Idoi see01:03
Daisuke_Idohrmm01:03
Daisuke_Idotried playing it in vlc?01:03
ax1s*nods01:03
ax1smenus play01:03
Daisuke_Idomovie itself crashes the player?01:03
ax1svideo starts to play.. but at certain locations on each of the 13 dvd set.. it makes the video crash/stop01:03
ax1sno01:03
ax1swell01:03
ax1sthe video playback freezes/stops01:03
ax1sand puts me back to the main program menu01:03
Daisuke_Idoouch01:04
ax1sit feels like crc errors01:04
ax1sbut the discs play fine in windows/on regular dvd players01:04
ax1swhich would lead me to encryption issues again01:04
ax1sahh 1.2.9 is out.. i will try that01:05
ax1s*crosses fingers01:06
ax1sdamn me01:07
ax1show would the css encryption be not as updated as my dvd player tho01:08
fideliohi. need help with fstab. what is the command to access and write into fat32 partition?01:08
BluesKaj!fat3201:08
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE01:08
ax1s[00000370] a52 decoder: A/52 channels:2 samplerate:48000 bitrate:19200001:08
ax1sNo accelerated IMDCT transform found01:08
BluesKajax1s, gutsy or hardy01:09
ax1sBluesKaj:  Gutsy01:09
* BluesKaj is puzzled 01:10
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ubuntu_hello01:27
Dr_willisHowdies01:28
NickPrestahi, ubuntu_01:28
ubuntu_i'm from venezuela01:28
ubuntu_and you01:28
ax1swow01:29
ax1sit could be my dvd drive01:29
ubuntu_nickpresta...01:29
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khaije1hi all01:54
khaije1i'm looking for a disk integrity checker, a/o stress tester, know of any?01:54
khaije1hmm...chan's quiet tonight01:56
ax1skhaije1: netsplit01:57
Dr_willisHmm01:57
Dr_willis!info bonnie01:57
ubotuPackage bonnie does not exist in gutsy01:57
Dr_willis!find bonnie01:57
ubotuFound: bonnie++01:57
schistefsck ?01:57
Dr_willis!find bonnie++01:57
Dr_willis!info bonnie++01:57
ubotubonnie++ (source: bonnie++): Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.03aubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 144 kB01:57
schistekhaije1 i'd say fsck01:57
Dr_willislike that tool?01:57
ax1sWOW02:00
ax1slol02:00
ax1sdvd playback doesn't work with ubuntu anymore?02:00
ax1sGoodbye!02:00
ax1si will miss you buntu02:00
ax1sit was a good run02:00
ax1sback to XP02:00
thechrisvlc02:00
ax1sdoesn't work02:01
thechrishmm, thats odd02:01
ax1syou're tellin me02:01
ax1s=]02:01
thechriswell, there should be somethign that works.  I haven't had to play a dvd in a while02:01
thechrisand i used VLC for that.02:01
ax1syah02:01
ax1svlc  should play anything02:02
ax1sbrand new  complete series of Dr Katz .. 2007 release02:02
ax1splays in old dvd players, windows .. but not any of my 3 nix boxes02:02
ax1sgo figure .. libdvdcss2 fully updated02:02
ax1s*shakes head02:02
thechriswhy i don't like the media industry02:03
thechrisoh, but i only pay $15/mo for phone now02:03
ax1s=]02:03
thechrisso i feel good about that02:03
ax1s25 bucks for 2 months for me02:03
ax1shehehe02:03
ax1syah man ..  i can't believe how much some ppl pay02:04
ax1s1000$ a year is not acceptable02:04
thechrisyeah, i've just stated using skype, and forwarding calls to a prepaid cell phone02:04
ax1s*nods02:04
ax1sheheheh02:04
ax1spre paid cellie here02:04
thechrisskype just doesn't want to take my money02:04
ax1sman this is funny.. i'm gonna end up hooking up a dvd player to my video in02:06
ax1sle sigh02:06
ax1si like02:06
ax1sdon't even want to install an old version of buntu to see if that works02:06
ax1si'd rather install XP at this point02:06
ax1sbut really i won't02:07
ax1si will throw all my computers in the garbage before i do that02:07
thechrisso, a friend of mine has an XP box, and VNC's to a linux box to use firefox to access the web safely from win02:07
ax1slol02:07
thechrisreally, would work for linux too.02:07
ax1sssh tunnel for the vnc connection i hope =]02:07
thechriswell, its on a local network02:08
BluesKajwhy doesn't your friend just put linux on the windoes box ?02:08
ax1sbecause then dvdplayback wouldn't work properly02:09
ax1s:P02:09
thechrisno, its his windows box.  it has no other purpose02:09
thechrishe only uses for the times he needs windows for some reason02:09
ax1swhat's the program for mousing over to different computers02:10
ax1svia lan02:10
ax1ssynergy02:10
mysteriosoraha02:10
thechrismwaha02:11
BluesKaji'm not ashamed to admit that i dual boot for scanning reasons ...still ahve docs that it and kooka sucks on my HP elcheapo02:11
mysteriosois there a way to make a terminal window go fullscreen at startup?  it already loads, but will not go fullscreen.02:11
BluesKajnneds02:11
BluesKajneeds02:11
ax1smysterioso:  maximize it then save your default profile ?02:11
thechrismysterioso: is there a command line argument that will do it?02:11
mysteriosothechris thats what im tryin to figure out02:11
mysteriosobut only if i dont have to type it everytime02:12
mysteriosoi want it to start in fullscreen02:12
ax1smysterioso:   maximize a console,  go up to settings, click on Save Default02:12
ax1sthe next time you open it it will be maximized02:13
mysteriosoax1s ill try it now02:13
mysteriosobrb02:13
ax1sjust worked for me.. good luck02:13
ax1s=]02:13
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mysteriosoax1s i do not have a "settings" dropdown02:14
ax1sdid you get rid of your top menu bar?02:14
mysteriosono02:14
ax1ssession/edit/view/boomarks/settings/help02:15
mysteriosofile edit view terminal tabs help02:15
ax1skonsole ?02:15
mysteriosooh02:15
mysteriosono02:15
ax1swhich one are you using02:15
mysteriosoi just got booted from the #ubuntu room02:15
mysteriososo this is for gnome02:16
ax1sahhh02:16
mysteriosoany ideas?02:16
ax1swhat about when you right click on the terminal window02:16
ax1sany sessions.. or profile section?02:16
mysteriosochange profile edit current profile02:16
ax1shas to be a *save somewhere02:17
mysteriosono save02:17
mysteriosobut ill try maximizing then going to edit02:17
mysteriosothen closing02:17
mysteriosobrb02:17
kubunteroSo I have an issue02:18
kubuntero can I reset the Winodws MBR with LInux?02:18
mysteriosodidnt work02:18
Dr_williskubuntero,  depends  On what version of windows ya got.02:18
ax1smysterioso:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-107000.html02:18
Dr_williskubuntero,  xp => boot xp cd to rescue mode use 'fdisk /mbr'02:19
kubunteroDr_willis: Sounds like a good plan02:19
ax1smysterioso:  go to elemtal666 's post02:19
kubunteroExcept it's a restore CD02:19
ax1smysterioso: do you want fullscreen or maximized02:20
ax1smysterioso:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48220302:20
kubunteroDr_willis: Booting the CD gives the option to Format to Factory or Format with your personal backup02:20
kubunteroI wonder if I could boot from a Windows XP ISO I have02:22
mysteriosoax1s?02:26
* genii sips a coffee02:26
mysteriosois there an op in here?02:27
mysteriosois there an op in the house?02:27
geniiThey're around but hidden02:28
mysteriosoi see02:28
mysteriosowell they booted me from #ubuntu02:29
mysteriosoand i just wanted to beg for mercy02:29
kubunteroThis isnt the place02:29
mysteriosokubuntero are you an op?02:29
kubunteroAnd a simple boot should allow you to go back in02:29
mysteriosobanned02:29
kubunteromysterioso: no and again this isn't the place02:29
mysteriosowell noone else is talkin02:30
kubunteromysterioso: You should be good again in two weeks :-)02:30
mysterioso2 WEEKS! he said 2 days02:30
mysteriosothen i said 1 and he said fine02:30
mysteriosowhats this 2 weeks junk?02:30
pauljwbeginning to see why you banned, this is not the place to discuss this02:31
mysteriosowhere can I talk about being banned?02:31
mysterioso#banned02:31
prince_jammysha02:31
mysteriosoim gonna make that room02:31
prince_jammyscareful not to get banned02:31
mysteriosoprince_jammys my long lost friend02:31
pauljwjust suck it up, and wait it out02:31
mysteriosook one last question02:32
mysteriosohow do i make a room?02:32
prince_jammysmysterioso: i don't know the answer to your terminal question02:32
prince_jammystype /j #banned02:32
mysteriosoprince_jammys i kinda got it.02:32
prince_jammysor click on the channel there02:32
mysteriosoi right clicked the terminal on the panel, and put --geometry 158x75+0+002:33
mysteriosoin the command02:33
mysteriosonot quite fullscreen though02:33
arrrghhhso has anyone successfully setup a vpn (pptp...) in kubuntu?  i'm trying this crappy workaround that uses nm-applet (network-manager-gnome) and it's not working out for me at all...02:33
kubunteroAhhhm my friend has02:33
kubunteroKourse he's not here now02:33
arrrghhhfigures02:33
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arrrghhhdid he use nm-applet in conjunction with knetworkmanager?  cuz knetworkmanager doesn't seem to do it out of the box.  it *really* should, but it doesn't...02:34
kubunteroarrrghhh: No idea. what release of Kubuntu?02:34
arrrghhhwell i've tried gutsy and this machine at home is hardy alpha 4 until betas start... which i hope are soon!02:35
arrrghhhmy laptop and desktop at work are 7.10 tho02:35
AndreSTCwhy is stuff being installed in my root directory, not in /home ?02:36
arrrghhhi really would LOVE to get it working on the lappy at work.  i work in the field all the time and a vpn connection would really be nice.02:36
kubunteroAndreSTC: How are you installing ?02:36
kubuntero!vpn02:36
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD02:36
AndreSTCkubuntero what do you mean ?02:36
arrrghhhhrm.  i think i've read that, but i'll give it another look over.  thanks.02:36
kubunteroAndreSTC: How are you installing "stuff?"02:37
geniiAndreSTC: For an explanation of what goes where in linux see: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html02:37
mysteriosohelp02:39
arrrghhhkubuntero, that is to setup a linux vpn server and have winxp clients connect to it... we have a freebsd box running a pptp (i have no idea why it's not openvpn...) vpn server and i need to connect to that from my linux machines.02:39
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kubunteromysterioso: please talk to the bot in private02:40
ax1sthe DVD playback worked through VLC first try on Feisty02:44
ax1sgo figure02:44
ax1si think its 2.6.22 vs 2.6.2002:44
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AndreSTCis there a way to transfer all files from one partition to another? /dev/sda3 to /dev/sda102:51
mysteriosokubuntero how do I talk to the bot in private?02:52
vltI try to connect to a server via `ssh -X server1`, but $DISPLAY isn't set there, and I can't forward apps to my screen. The same command to server2 works perfectly. xbase-clients is installed on both servers. Any idea what's missing on the first machine?02:52
kubunteromysterioso: /msg ubotu question02:53
vltmysterioso: /msg ubotu your_question02:53
Dr_willisAndreSTC,  depending on whats on the filesystems.  You have different things to watch out for.02:53
Dr_willisAndreSTC,   the basic cp command can do it for most normal files/filesystems02:53
* Arwen is listening to 4′33″ by John Cage on 4′33″ [Amarok]02:53
Arwenah, the sound of silence...02:53
AndreSTC[Dr_willis]: i have just /home directory on sda3, without much stuff(30 mb), nothing important02:53
vltAndreSTC: `cp -a` or `rsync -a`02:53
Dr_willisAndreSTC,  problems canhappen with links and /dev entries and other permissions.   you could just use  mc as the root user, for a nice gui tool/filemanager to copy the things over.02:54
Dr_willisMount other place, copy things over..  edit mountpoint to point to the new location02:55
KrayzeeKrystalanyone know why Adept Installer isn't finding ksynaptics?  I want to configure my mouse keys on my thinkpad02:55
Dr_willis!info ksynaptics02:55
ubotuksynaptics (source: ksynaptics): Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 228 kB, installed size 1156 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)02:55
AndreSTCDr_willis i want to copy the files so i can resize sda1, then i would copy files again to sda302:55
mysteriosois there a man page for the irc?02:55
Dr_williswork time for me.. byee02:56
KrayzeeKrystalI've tried searching for it and it won't come up... and when I go to Edit Software Sources, Adept Installer has Universe selected.02:56
kubunteroKrayzeeKrystal: What version of Kubuntu are you using?02:58
DragnslcrKrayzeeKrystal- it should be Settings -> Touch Pad if you're using Adept Installer02:58
DragnslcrKrayzeeKrystal- you can also try Adept Manager and search for ksynaptics02:58
KrayzeeKrystalI'm using 7.10.02:59
KrayzeeKrystalDrag> That's what I'm trying to do....02:59
KrayzeeKrystaler... what installer.  ugh02:59
greeneghi KrayzeeKrystal02:59
KrayzeeKrystal'ello02:59
greenegso you''re having issues finding the app you're looking for in adept_manager?03:00
KrayzeeKrystalIs manager different than installer??03:00
greenegadept_manager is the main way to search the package list.03:01
NickPrestaWould anyone who uses QT-Designer like to help me for one minute?03:01
greenegadept_installer will only show a select set of packages03:01
kubunteroKrayzeeKrystal: Press Alt+Space -> type adept -> press enter03:01
MrCloudI need help with updating Kubuntu.  Can anyone help?  I installed 3 times.03:01
kubunteroMrCloud: What kind of update?03:02
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KrayzeeKrystalOoooh... that has a lot more options...03:02
MrCloudWhen I try to update, it goes up til it says installing updates, then stops with an error about breaking packages or something, then says there is a version update, then all goes south.03:02
greenegKrayzeeKrystal: yes03:02
KrayzeeKrystalwoot... found it, thanks03:03
MrCloudThis is a fresh install.03:03
MrCloudI didn't do updates this time.03:03
greenegit's my preferred way to install stuff on Kubuntu at work03:03
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MrCloudNot without coming here first to get help.03:03
greenegKrayzeeKrystal: np :)03:03
kubuntero!katapult03:03
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.03:03
* kubuntero hugs alt+Space 03:03
KrayzeeKrystalOne of my coworkers has been going on about katapult...03:04
MrCloudThere is an icon by the clock that says there is updates available.03:04
kubunteroKrayzeeKrystal: It's nice could be better but insanely addictive03:04
KrayzeeKrystalI'm still not to sure 'bout it03:04
MrCloud153 updated packages available.03:04
kubunteroMrCloud: Do you have adept open ?03:04
KrayzeeKrystalBut I suppose it'll likely grow on me03:04
MrCloudNo.03:04
kubunteroMrCloud: Good Click the little orange Box03:05
MrCloudI haven't done nothing but come here after installing03:05
greenegKrayzeeKrystal: think of katapult like Quicksilver on Mac OS X, or QuickLaunch on Windows03:05
MrCloudLoaded Adept Updater03:05
KrayzeeKrystalNeither of which I've used. ;)03:05
greenegKrayzeeKrystal: ah03:05
MrCloudWelcome to Adept Updater03:05
greenegthey simplify launching stuff sooo much03:06
KrayzeeKrystalhmmm... afk03:06
greenegsince the menu can be a pain to navigate at times :P03:06
kubunteroMrCloud: It's wizard. Pretty easy to follow after that03:06
MrCloudI do follow that, but there is where the problem is.  After doing all the downloading, it starts the install and crashes with an error, then it says there is a version update.03:07
kubunteroMrCloud: Ah Hmm03:07
MrCloudWhen I tell it okay on the version update it crashes saying the packager is already running.03:07
kubuntero!adept crash fix03:07
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:07
kubunteroMrCloud: ^^^03:08
MrCloudOKay I will try that when it crashes.03:08
MrCloudJust for your info, I installed from a Kubuntu Linux 7.10 DVD that I downloaded and did a CD check before installing.03:10
Daisuke_Idouh03:11
kubunteroMrCloud: I have no doubt the install was fine. Just that installing packages is a tricky magic and installing a whole bunch at one time is feat of balance many would faint at03:11
Daisuke_Idouh03:11
Daisuke_Idoyou installed 7.1003:11
Daisuke_Idowhy are you doing a version upgrade?03:12
Daisuke_Idojust saying03:12
kubunteroDaisuke_Ido: Update not upgrade03:12
Daisuke_Idostill a version update03:12
Daisuke_Idoit's apparently either the existing adept bug, or it's trying to go to hardy03:12
MrCloudAfter the update, it tells me there is a version upgrade available.03:12
Daisuke_Idoignore it either way.03:12
kubunteroDaisuke_Ido: Nope update. There is a bug in the updated Adept package that sasythere is an upgrade03:12
kubuntero Really there isn't03:12
Daisuke_Idoexactly03:12
MrCloudSo there is no version upgrade?03:13
Daisuke_Idojust to hardy03:13
MrCloudWhy is it telling me there is?03:13
Daisuke_Idoand you don't want to do that yet03:13
Daisuke_Idonot for a couple months at least03:13
MrCloudOKay.03:13
MrCloudI am new to this stuff.03:13
Daisuke_Idono worries03:13
MrCloudI am used to Windows 9x.  lol03:13
kubunteroMrCloud: Do you still have the orange box in the tray saying you have updates?03:13
kubunteroMrCloud: Welcome :)03:14
MrCloudYes, and its downloading updates while I chat.03:14
MrCloud88%03:14
evilbugi need someone to help me set up wireless on my 2g macbook pro.03:14
MrCloudPreparing updates now.03:15
MrCloudHere is where it crashes with error.  I will post it.03:15
kubuntero!paste | MrCloud03:15
ubotuMrCloud: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:15
MrCloudThank you.03:16
MrCloudDon't need to cause problems.03:16
ax1sThis dvd works on my laptop/fiesty/vlc but not with ANY program on this machine with gutsy .. any ideas?03:16
ax1snon dvdcss2 related03:16
evilbugi already installed everything using a tutorial,it's just that when i try to connect it'll ask me for the network key a couple of times and then doesn't connect at all.03:16
evilbugit actually showed the signal bars for a little while (which i assume meant it connected) but the internet still would not work.03:17
MrCloudMight actually work this time03:17
geniiax1s: I generally like the xine backend over the gstreamer one. For instance you can have amarok-gstreamer or amarok-xine, I find xine backend better03:17
ax1sgenii:  I was using mplayer and vlc ... same issues with xine03:18
MrCloud50%03:18
geniiax1s: kaffeine work?03:18
ax1ssame issues03:18
ax1sit plays up until a certain point03:19
geniiax1s: Could be a streaming issue03:19
KrayzeeKrystalSorry 'bout disappearing.  The joys of being a mommy.03:19
greenegKrayzeeKrystal: np, np03:19
greeneg:)03:19
kubunteroKrayzeeKrystal: Congrats :)03:19
ax1sgenii: even tried lindvd .. still pauses at the same location03:19
geniiax1s: Playing an iso file or disc in the dvd drive?03:19
ax1sdvd disc03:19
kubunteroKrayzeeKrystal: You may want to look at kde-edu :)03:19
ax1sgenii: region 1 ..  my region is set to 1 as well03:19
KrayzeeKrystalShe's a bit young for that yet.  Only 9 months03:20
kubunteroKrayzeeKrystal: you wouldn't let her use something you haven't tested would you? :)03:20
greenegkubuntero: her daughter is far too young yet to touch the nice new ThinkPad :P03:20
geniiax1s: The same point is almost all through the movie? eg: about 4Gb into 4.7Gb ?03:20
KrayzeeKrystalKu> True, true.03:20
kubunteroplus you would be surprised at how engaging some of the apps can be for that age03:20
* KrayzeeKrystal grin03:20
ax1sgenii:  Nah.. I have the Dr Katz complete series..  and its 1:07 into the first episode03:20
KrayzeeKrystalYes, well.  Mommy's new dev box.  Mommy's.03:21
MrCloudThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.03:21
greeneglol03:21
MrCloud60% complete03:21
ax1sgenii: This is happening on 2 gutsy machines.. but it works fine on my fiesty machine03:21
MrCloudWhat do I do now?03:21
kubunteroDaisuke_Ido: dpkg -f install ?03:21
kubunteroMrCloud: is it closed ?03:21
geniiax1s: Hmmm. No other immediate ideas come to mind then03:21
kubunteroor it crashed ?03:21
MrCloudNo, I left it alone when the error occured.03:21
MrCloudDo I click on okay?03:22
Daisuke_Idokubuntero: couldn't hurt03:22
KrayzeeKrystalHrm... now to find ksynaptics...  I believe I installed it....03:22
kubunteroMrCloud: Sure03:22
MrCloudIt said Complete, now says there is a new distribution version is available03:23
MrCloudClick next if you want to upgrade now03:23
ax1sgenii: does dvdnav demuxer warning: cannot get next block give you any hint?03:23
MrCloudI clicked on quit.03:23
greenegKrayzeeKrystal: look in the System Settings app found in the kmenu03:23
geniiax1s: offhand looks like perhaps the audio stream has a bad sector or so03:24
ax1sgenii: That is exactly what i am *feeling03:24
ax1sgenii: but it works in my laptop with feisty and on  a regular dvd player03:24
ax1slol03:24
ax1scould it be my drive?03:24
ax1si don't see how03:24
kubunteroMrCloud: open  a konsole and type sudo dpkg -f install03:24
KrayzeeKrystalCan't find it... I can't katapult to it either...  and if I try to search on the System Settings window it doesn't find anything03:25
geniiax1s: Perhaps. The Mitsumi ones in particular are bad that way03:25
KrayzeeKrystalBut Adept manager says it's installed03:25
MrCloudOkay.03:25
ax1sgenii: I have a benQ in here.. but wow that is odd03:25
ax1sgenii: thx for your help too btw03:25
geniiax1s: PErhaps try an external usb one on same box03:25
geniibah capslock03:25
ax1sgenii good call03:26
MrCloudDidn't work, but the first sudo did work.03:27
kubunteroKrayzeeKrystal: try syndock03:27
kubunteroMrCloud: Sorry what does that mean?03:27
MrCloudIts done.03:27
MrCloud sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a03:27
MrCloudI did that and it worked03:27
kubunteroAh right03:28
greeneghrm, can you open kcontrol then? it should be in there under Peripherals iirc03:28
MrCloudsudo dpkg -f install gave an error03:28
kubunteroah what error?03:28
MrClouddpkg-deb: failed to read archive `install': No such file or directory03:28
geniiMrCloud: I think you may need -a with that03:28
MrCloudoh.03:28
greeneggotta remember, I don't have kubuntu installed here on this machine, so I have to remember what I have to do at work.... :P03:28
ax1s[00000301] cdda access error: could not read block 136 from disc03:29
ax1sLOL03:29
kubunterogenii: -a == all ?03:29
geniikubuntero: yes03:29
MrCloudLets see if add/remove will work now.03:29
MrCloudI have a quick question.  Can I install RPM files in Kubuntu?03:29
kubuntero!rpm03:29
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)03:29
geniiax1s: I think you got a bum disc then that will only play on better drives with eror correction03:30
kubunteroMrCloud: Always best to check if you can get it from the repo03:30
MrCloudWell, so much for that idea.  I appreciate it.03:30
MrCloudThe program I want to use is vmware workstation.03:30
KrayzeeKrystalKu> syndock, hmm?  ok.03:30
ax1sgenii:  brand new 13 disc set, happens on each disc03:30
MrCloudvirtual box is a mess.03:30
ax1sgenii: brand new from chapters/indgo03:30
ax1sgenii: i think you are half right03:30
ax1sgenii: maybe not bum disc but bum new method of control03:31
kubuntero!vmware03:31
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers03:31
geniiax1s: Hmm. Might be some audio codec then03:31
kubunteroMrCloud: You can apt-get it03:31
Daisuke_Idonot workstation you can't.03:31
Daisuke_Idoplayer and server, yes03:31
MrCloudI will try that.  Thank you.03:31
kubunteroOh? which one is workstation ?03:31
geniiax1s: If you choose some other language stream, halts same point?03:31
MrCloudWould be nice to use my old 98 stuff in Linux.03:31
kubunteroIt's not in the commercial repo ?03:31
kubuntero!wine03:31
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.03:31
MrCloudIf it likes programs for as old as 3.1/95, I bet I can use that.  lol03:32
khaijeis there a hdd integrity checker for linux. i know fdisk does filesystem stuff, but is there anything for the actually physical disk?03:32
MrCloudOff to check out that website.03:32
geniikhaije: fsck03:33
kubunteroMrCloud: Lets say that Linux has better backwards compatibilty with Windows Programs than WIndows does03:33
MrCloudSweet.03:33
kubunterogenii: Wouldn't that be badblocks ?03:33
MrCloudLinux just might have a home.  lol03:33
kubunterofsck is file system03:33
kubuntero!info ms-sys03:34
ubotums-sys (source: ms-sys): Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB03:34
kubunteroHmm03:34
geniikubuntero: If your hd is going bad fsck will mark failing areas as bad and not use them. You can also install the SMART monitoring tools if your hd supports that feature. Other than that there may be some manufacturer specific lowlevel checking tool on the Ultimate Boot CD for your drive.03:34
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kubunterokhaije: so fsck, badblocks, smartmontools (may have to install) and manufactureres tools03:35
kubunteroI really hope that hard drive manufacturers start having the tools as isos03:36
ax1sBRB03:36
kubunteroHaving them as windows apps is really annoying03:36
Daisuke_Idokubuntero: i know seagate offers an iso03:36
Daisuke_Idoor at least, i found them in iso format somewhere, because i know i've used them that way03:36
jimmy51hello, could anyone walk me through installing a patch recently posted to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/15186703:38
kubunteroI know I hope all of them start doing that03:38
geniikubuntero: I saw just now I sent you a msg for khaije, apologies :)03:39
kubunterogenii: no problem I asked you a question03:40
geniikhaije: Originally meant for you: If your hd is going bad fsck will mark failing areas as bad and not use them. You can also install the SMART monitoring tools if your hd supports that feature. Other than that there may be some manufacturer specific lowlevel checking tool on the Ultimate Boot CD for your drive.03:40
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jimmy51they've posted the patch and a tar file, but I don't know how to install it03:43
Oloughlin75wiah i was in ubuntu and didnt notice for like an hour03:44
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Warhammer39msalut tlm03:46
kubunteroThe brown didn't tip you off?03:47
Oloughlin75#ubuntu03:48
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khaijegenii: i'll give that a shot, smartmontools is a beast to work with, it's really a monster, don't call me soft but I wish it had a gui03:53
marcus_aureliushas anybody gotten sun java5 to work with firefox?  i'm running 64-bit kubuntu 7.10, firefox works great, but plugins are a constant headache03:57
storbeckmarcus_aurelius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java03:59
mneptokmarcus_aurelius: there is no 64 bit Java plugin from Sun04:01
marcus_aureliusstorbeck: okay, but it has to be java5, not java704:02
ArwenJava 7? living in the future, are we?04:02
kubunteroShhhhh04:02
storbeckWhy does it have to be java5?04:02
marcus_aureliusbecause the vpn client i need to connect with says it needs java504:03
mneptokmarcus_aurelius: **** there is no 64 bit Java plugin from Sun ****04:04
mneptoknone. not Java5. not Java6.04:04
marcus_aureliusmneptok: yes, but there is ia32-sun-java5-bin04:05
mneptokia32 != AMD6404:05
Oloughlin75marcus_aurelius, i believe you can install 32bit firefox and use the sun plugin04:05
mneptokjava5-bin != java5-plugin04:06
mneptokmarcus_aurelius: Oloughlin75 is right. you either install a chrooted 32 bit Firefox, use nspluginwrapper and hope that works, or install a 32 bit Ubuntu04:06
ax1sgenii:  external USB drive worked %)04:07
ax1sgenii:  Tis this dvd drive.04:07
ax1sgenii: er that was the problem... thankyou for your troubleshootin sk1llz04:07
geniiax1s: Well, at least now you know04:07
ax1soh man i was going insane04:07
geniiax1s: :) np, glad to have helped04:08
ax1s*lol's04:08
ax1shuge04:08
marcus_aureliusfirefox version is 2.0.0.12+2nobinonly+2-0ub04:08
kubunterogenii: Let me get this straight. If i have NTFS support installed that doesn't mean that an application can safely write to NTFS ?04:08
ax1s I LOVE YOU ALL .. for now.. ;D ..04:08
ax1sgenii:   Thanks again04:08
Oloughlin75kubuntero, it should04:09
Oloughlin75kubuntero, mine do04:09
geniikubuntero: the fuse ntfs driver is pretty safe.04:10
kubunterowell ms-sys in particular04:10
Oloughlin75ms-sys? kubuntero04:11
kubuntero!info ms-sys04:11
ubotums-sys (source: ms-sys): Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB04:11
mneptokif you look directly at any Vista product packaging, a Microsoft bootloader will be installed on every computer you have ever owned.04:12
kubunteroThat's wonderful I just need to reinstall one now04:13
kubunteroI have a restore CD which doesn't give me an option to repair. Simply to format and return to Factory install04:13
Oloughlin75kubuntero, no recovery console?04:13
Oloughlin75this is a #windows discussion though04:13
kubunteroCan't get to one04:14
Oloughlin75and use grub anyway04:14
kubunteroI'm there as well04:14
kubunteroHmm04:14
kubunteroGimmie a second04:14
kubunteroI have a error 2204:15
* Arwen just got flamed for suggesting not using AV in ##windows. Ignorant fools.04:16
Oloughlin75kubuntero, go into bios and make sure the floppy drives inst in the boot order04:16
Rukusanyone know a good tutorial to install compiz for kubuntu? ATI card using aiglx04:17
kubunterolaptop no floppy04:17
kubunteroArwen: Horrible advice04:17
kubunteroI've caught two viruses in Vista and I don't even use it that much04:17
prince_jammysheh, making friends over there in windows04:18
storbeckRukus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26321004:18
prince_jammysi was just watching the madness at #ubuntu04:18
Rukusthanks04:18
Rukusi'll havea look04:18
Arwenkubuntero, then you were using it wrong04:19
Arwenthat's actually very good advice04:19
Arwenmost of the "OMG, WINDOWS IS SLOW" complaints are because of AV04:19
Oloughlin75kubuntero, try puting in like an audio cd, or other non bootbale cd and turning on your computer04:19
Oloughlin75and see if you can boot04:19
Rukusok that link doesnt work04:19
kubunteroArwen: Totally agree. however it's too easy to catch something unwanted04:19
storbeckIt doesn't work?04:19
kubunteroOloughlin75: can't04:19
Rukusworks, not right info04:20
prince_jammys!compiz | Rukus04:20
ubotuRukus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:20
kubunteroApparently he blew away the Linux parition with /boot04:20
Arwenkubuntero, actually not really, just takes some common sense and good security practice. But we're digressing.04:20
Rukuswait04:20
Rukustypo04:20
Rukusmaybe worked now04:20
storbeckHow is it not the right info?04:20
Rukuslol04:20
Rukussorry04:20
storbeckAh04:20
mneptokRukus: i'll save you the pain and tell you the eye candy is not worth the road of suffering you have just started walking.04:20
Rukusum04:20
Rukusman, i dont know what everyones problem is with this04:21
Rukusi have had no problem using eye candy before04:21
storbeckTo extent to my eyecandy is kxdocker04:21
mneptokRukus: one word. ATi.04:21
Rukusor making xgl work04:21
Oloughlin75Rukus, with what? compiz?04:21
Rukusor iaglx work04:21
Rukusaiglx04:21
Oloughlin75o04:21
Rukusand i have an xpress 200m04:21
prince_jammysare you kidding, linux is all about wobbly windows04:21
storbeck*laughs*04:21
mneptokso let's see how you do with fglrx04:21
Rukusman, its easy04:21
Rukusme?04:21
Oloughlin75cubes prince_jammys , cubes04:21
Rukuswait04:21
mneptokyes, you. :)04:21
prince_jammysoh yeah the cube04:21
prince_jammyswobbly cube04:22
Rukusjared@alkasmolik:~$ fglrxinfo04:22
Rukusdisplay: :0.0  screen: 004:22
RukusOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.04:22
RukusOpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series04:22
RukusOpenGL version string: 2.1.7281 Release04:22
Rukuserr04:22
prince_jammysspherical desktop04:22
Oloughlin75so useless04:22
storbeckwobbly windows sounds funnier though.04:22
storbeckThat should be the new linux slogan. :D04:22
storbeckIf you don't have wobbly windows, you don't have linux.04:22
prince_jammysUbuntu : "Linux for wobbly windows"04:22
Oloughlin75that makes its user sound "wobbly"04:23
Rukusdisplay: :0  screen: 004:23
Rukusdirect rendering: Ye04:23
kubunteroSo I was looking at a Linux way to reset the MBR04:23
Rukusyes*04:23
Rukusman04:23
Rukusworks great04:23
kubunteroms-sys looks like it04:23
Rukusi dont get the fuss04:23
mneptokUbuntu is an ancient African word meaning, "Maybe the cool kids at my high school will stop picking on me if I can get Compiz working."04:23
kubunteroexcept it says FAT16 and FAT32 so I'm loathe to use it on NTFS04:23
Rukusi got it workin04:23
Rukuswoot04:23
Rukusbefore04:24
storbeckRukus, well, not everyone takes out of their time to come in chat and ask a question.04:24
prince_jammysjust jokes, no fuss04:24
Rukusjust playing again04:24
storbeckintelikey: You're running IRC via root?04:25
intelikeyno04:25
storbeckHrm04:25
Rukuslol04:25
Rukusi used to run irc from root on my shell04:25
Rukushaha04:25
Oloughlin75intelikey, ms didnt make you work in windows?04:25
intelikeyOloughlin75 heh. no04:26
Oloughlin75that seems weird04:26
prince_jammysah, slow scrolling.. #ubuntu was about to give me a seizure04:26
Oloughlin75prince_jammys, me too04:27
prince_jammyshow can i print an mp3?04:27
Oloughlin75prince_jammys, i was in ubuntu for like an hour without relizing it04:27
Rukusis that like the definitive source to instal cpmpiz? there is so many tutorials. and well, i use those, yes i do.04:27
Oloughlin75!compiz | Rukus04:27
ubotuRukus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:27
Oloughlin75thats the one Rukus04:27
Rukusthanks04:27
Rukusperfect04:28
Arwenprince_jammys, print an MP3?04:28
prince_jammysArwen: #ubuntu style question04:28
Arwenhehe04:29
Arwen#ubuntu causes brain cancer04:29
intelikey:)04:29
prince_jammyshow can i deny write access to my home dir?04:29
Oloughlin75its the same as this, all the same question, but ~20x faster04:29
Arwenprince_jammys, chmod a-w ~ -R04:29
Arwenor without -R if you don't want it recursive04:30
prince_jammysthx04:30
Oloughlin75prince_jammys, uhh, why?04:30
prince_jammyssorry, joke questions04:30
intelikeymaybe not cancer but gasious expulsion of crainal processies04:30
kubunteroShould I trust ms-sys on NTFS?04:30
Oloughlin75i like the reading practice04:30
prince_jammysthough that one came up on #ubuntu04:30
Oloughlin75windows fonts are making my eyes tired04:32
Arwenkubuntero, you don't use it on NTFS04:32
Arwenit will b0rk it04:32
Arwenit's only for making bootable DOS partitions04:32
kubunteroThanks thats all I wanted to hear04:33
zekeis there any way to make my system tray clock sync itself to my bios clock?04:33
intelikeyzeke hwclock --sync hwtosys      i think04:34
intelikeybetter check the syntax04:34
zekeI'll give it a try04:34
zekemany thanks...I've been doing the dual boot thingus, and the clocks in both OSs are always wrong unless I have internet access04:35
intelikeythere is bidirrectional syncing capabilities  systohw and hwtosys04:35
intelikeyor maybe it's hc in place of hw   idk04:36
Oloughlin75hw makes more sense to me :/04:36
Oloughlin75otherwise its be like sysc04:37
Oloughlin75itd*04:37
intelikeyhwclock --systohc       hwclock --hctosys04:37
zekeyeah...hwclock gives me some --help options04:37
intelikeyit's hc   hardware clock04:37
intelikeyzeke man man     also04:37
Oloughlin75!man04:38
zekewill do04:38
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal04:38
prince_jammysman man | grep man >man04:38
Oloughlin75i keep wanting to open a console04:38
intelikeyprince_jammys to what purpose ?04:38
MrJoeyCan the iBook Clamshell use the synaptic mouse driver like the other iBooks?  I want to enable scrolling and all that neat stuff04:38
prince_jammyssorry i just need to go to bed now04:39
intelikeyOloughlin75 you can.    openvt -wfc 1204:39
Oloughlin75intelikey, <-- windows04:39
zekethanks intelikey04:39
intelikeyOloughlin75 you can't !04:39
intelikeywelcome zeke04:40
* intelikey throws rocks at Oloughlin75 04:40
Oloughlin75intelikey, its only for 12 hours04:40
Oloughlin75intelikey, its much easier to conver wmas in windows :/04:40
Oloughlin75convert04:41
intelikeyOloughlin75 well we'll let you by with it this time.04:41
intelikeysomeone can answer MrJoey04:41
Oloughlin75i dont really like apple :/ i dont know04:42
MrJoeyWell, it's a hand-me-down computer, so it's fine for me :)04:42
* intelikey doesn't own a hackentosh, they're to heckspesive04:43
MrJoeyTrue that04:43
root_____hola04:49
Oloughlin75hola root_____04:49
root_____disculapen quien me puede ayudar04:49
prince_jammys!es | root_____04:50
uboturoot_____: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.04:50
Oloughlin75!es | root_____04:50
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root_____hola04:50
intelikeywoops.  i now have a blue bar across the bottome of tty2 that i can't get rid of...04:50
root_____ah ok04:50
root_____pero es q nose como moverme en este sistema operativo04:50
intelikeyoh wait.  changing ttys cleared it up04:50
prince_jammysroot_____: teclea /j #ubuntu-es04:51
karllenzhey i have a belkin wireless g usb adapter that works fine outa the box using ubuntu but will not work with kubuntu what are the steps i have to take to get it to work??04:51
prince_jammysroot_____: y te conecta04:51
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Oloughlin75root_____, vaya al soporitvo del #ubuntu-es por ayuda es esa idioma04:52
Oloughlin75wow my spansih is awful04:52
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prince_jammysnot really04:52
prince_jammysen ese idioma04:53
prince_jammysidioma is one of them feminine looking masculine words04:53
Oloughlin75should be para ayuda too, and idioma is feminine right?04:53
Oloughlin75nope04:53
Oloughlin75alright04:53
prince_jammysel idioma04:53
prince_jammysel sistema, that sort of thang04:53
Oloughlin75la radio ;)04:54
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intelikeylechi la bacca     and be quiet.04:54
Oloughlin75karllenz, it -should- work, but you could try ndiswrapper04:54
bobitoHey ya'll, I can't find a folder I swore was on this external.  Whats the command to find the folder?  (not case sensitive?)04:55
Oloughlin75and whats the supposed to mean intelikey04:55
karllenzwell i just ran the kubuntu 7.04 live cd and it works strange??04:55
intelikeyOloughlin75 probably not spelled correctly   but   milk the cow.04:55
karllenzthe news live cd it doesnt work04:55
prince_jammysfind /the/path -iname 'thename'04:55
bobitoty04:55
Oloughlin75idk my animals in spanish04:55
Oloughlin75lechi isnt the right form though for the imperitive04:56
prince_jammysspanish is my first language but after many years of english, i struggle04:56
Oloughlin75prince_jammys, still learning ;)04:56
prince_jammyslechi aint a spanish word that i know04:56
karllenzmy other problem is everytime i put my ati vidio card into my pc along with my nvidia card ubuntu and kubuntu freak out and put me into a comande line at boot04:56
karllenzati card is the visiontek x155004:57
Oloughlin75karllenz, i dont think any OS supports two cards, one from ati and the other nvidia04:57
karllenzwell even if i just have the ati card in my pc same thing happens04:58
intelikeymay i say that it's     no OS has drivers that are compatable for both nv and ati togather04:58
Oloughlin75karllenz, you need to modify the xorg.conf04:58
intelikeyunless you want to use the vesa04:58
karllenzwell i cant even get into the os to do that04:58
karllenzand idk how to do it at the comandline level04:59
intelikeysure you can04:59
intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:59
karllenzok then it should be able to use my ati card04:59
karllenzits ust the one comande05:00
intelikeyif it's installed when you do that and you select the driver for it.      but i still think i would use the vesa driver until you get setteled which card is going to be in there05:00
Oloughlin75karllenz, itll walk you through a bunch of prompts05:00
karllenzim sry still trying to learn linux05:00
karllenzid really like the ati card fully functional05:01
intelikeythe vesa driver should work with either/both cards05:01
karllenzi had no problems installing the restricted drivers for nvidia real easy it was great05:01
intelikeykarllenz you and every one else that owns one.05:01
intelikey<karllenz> id really like the ati card fully functional  <intelikey> karllenz you and every one else that owns one.05:02
karllenzbut i got a newer ati card with tv out that id really like to use05:02
Oloughlin75intelikey, has amd brought any change to ati?05:02
intelikeyOloughlin75 not visable yet.05:02
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karllenzanyone try out lmce im installing kubuntu now for it05:03
* intelikey needs an scronym dictionary05:04
intelikey         a05:04
Oloughlin75dictionary.com has acronyms05:04
intelikeyOloughlin75 so how do you down load it ?05:05
Oloughlin75you dont? :)05:05
intelikeyi didn't say i was looking for an online service,  now did i05:05
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Oloughlin75you didnt say you werent, did you?05:05
prince_jammyswget05:05
prince_jammysand wait a bit05:06
intelikeyprince_jammys that will only get the main page05:06
prince_jammysno, you can set it up to keep going05:06
intelikey-R ?05:06
prince_jammysno05:06
prince_jammysthat would be nice05:06
prince_jammysthere's a ton of options, i don't remember05:07
prince_jammysbut you can download an entire site05:07
intelikeyyeah recursion doesn't do php tho05:07
kubunteroWith a proxy I bet it would )05:07
Oloughlin75:/05:08
prince_jammysand it can relink everything locally05:08
prince_jammyswget is hot05:08
Oloughlin75!wget05:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:08
intelikeycurl probably could too05:08
prince_jammys!info wget05:08
ubotuwget (source: wget): retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 233 kB, installed size 1924 kB05:08
intelikey!info curl05:08
ubotucurl (source: curl): Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS or FTP server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.16.4-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 170 kB, installed size 284 kB05:08
prince_jammysyou have it already05:09
intelikeyyes and wget too05:09
intelikeyi think i installed wget05:09
intelikeymaybe i'll check05:09
intelikeyyeah i did.05:09
prince_jammysit comes with install05:10
intelikeynot my install05:10
prince_jammysoh05:10
prince_jammysyou did a minimal/server install?05:10
intelikeyno not even05:10
intelikeyi did a custom minimal05:10
prince_jammysah nice05:10
intelikeyi did finnally compile and install bash   though.05:11
prince_jammysyou know, -r may even be the option05:11
prince_jammysindeed it is05:12
intelikeywell imagen that.05:12
intelikey:)\05:12
prince_jammysyou specify -r and you can control the level05:12
* intelikey serfes web with wget http://www.something.com | html2txt | less05:14
prince_jammysha05:14
Oloughlin75uhhh, diaalup?05:14
kubunterointelikey: orisinal.com :)05:14
intelikeyOloughlin75 yeah.05:14
default_opa lamer quesiton.  does hosts.deny and hosts.allow defualt to blocking?  Do I need to edit these on new install to allow connections to smtp/pop ports?05:14
intelikeyno they default to allowing05:15
default_opintelikey: thx05:15
intelikeynp05:15
intelikeyecho   the text editor of *?05:16
kubunterodefault_op: It reads deny then allow05:16
kubunteroSo allow can override deny05:16
intelikeykubuntero but both default to blank05:16
kubunterotrue05:16
default_opintelikey: just having problems setting up smtp/pop access.  using localhost.localdomain as the domain name but having problems with reading service with evolution or kmail.  what is the default username for Courier or Postfix?05:17
kubunterodefault_op: default to block would mean you couldn't IRC to ask us if it defaulted :)05:17
default_opkubuntero: thx.  I checked both and they are  empty so all should egt through.05:18
default_opkubuntero: arrr ok05:18
intelikeydefault_op that i don't know.05:18
kubunteropostfix for postfix I should think05:19
intelikeycat /etc/passwd   might be revieling05:20
intelikeyinquiring minds want to know.05:20
default_opkubuntero: I uninstalled postfix since couldn't get it working with Courier.  using Courier for both reading and sending email but they aren't sending or recieving anything.05:20
default_opintelikey: will do05:20
default_opintelikey: 'mail' only group so that must be the daemon group.05:22
intelikeyi started to say,  that i started to say that,  but it sounded to clecheic05:23
karllenzwtf i ust installed that ati card and now all of a sudden it works no problem05:27
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karllenzwith both cards in05:27
karllenzlets see if i can get the driver installed05:27
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karllenzso it will display on the ati tv out and the nvidia to the monitor05:27
* intelikey thinks karllenz doesn't care what he asks for....05:28
intelikeysky's the limit !05:28
karllenzwats that mean intelikey05:28
intelikeymeans tre bon chance karllenz05:29
intelikeyyou might.   i hope you do.     maybe you will.     but you set your sights offully high...05:30
karllenzhuh05:30
intelikeyhas anyone ever gotten nvidia and ati to play nice togather in one box ?05:31
intelikeyheck i can't even get nvidia to play nice by it's self     hehhe.05:31
karllenzlol05:32
karllenzwell ubutu doesnt seem to see the ati card at all05:32
karllenzkarl05:33
karllenzis the a commande i can run to see whats install in my pci slots05:33
intelikeylspci05:34
intelikeylshw | less    for full hardware listing05:34
karllenzthanx05:35
* kubuntero wonders if anyone will forgive sabdfl for not naming the P animal as penguin05:35
intelikeyno05:35
karllenzwow everythings all screwy now my term window is all white cant see anything05:35
intelikeytypical of the hardware and system05:36
intelikeyyou might refresh it by hiding it and then restoring it05:37
intelikeyif you meant term as in konsole terminal emulator05:37
karllenzis there a way to restore my settings to wat it was before i messed with the screen and such05:37
intelikeywhich settings ?05:38
intelikeykonsole ?05:38
intelikeyxorg05:38
intelikeykde ?05:38
intelikey^l   ^l05:38
intelikeyreset05:38
intelikeyclear05:38
intelikeycharge to 200 he's still flat lineing05:39
intelikeyclear05:39
karllenzum not to sure i messed with what i had in the screen and graphics pane05:39
intelikeykarllenz then i'm not to sure either.    and might not know if i was sure.    maybe05:40
karllenzlol05:40
intelikeya little levity levitates the whole lump05:41
karllenzmabey uninstall and installing the restricted driver05:41
intelikeyfor which one ?   the ati or the nvidia ?05:42
* intelikey is really not helping anything right now. so i'll be back when i'm less wanted.05:43
karllenznvidia05:43
karllenzthat did the trick05:46
karllenznice05:46
mjponcewhat means "the news live cd it doesnt work" ?05:48
karllenzthethe new kubuntu live cd didnt auto config my my wireless card05:49
[ifr0g]Hi Guys :)05:50
mjponcei think that its not only that ..05:51
mjponcesomeone tells me about some broken packages05:51
karllenzwhen i used the newst kubuntu live cd to install the belkin wireless g usb network card didnt work out of the box05:54
karllenzi used kubunt 7.04 live cd it worked fine05:54
mjponcethanks! good nigth to all.05:59
kubunteroNight05:59
karllenzcan lmce be install wih ubuntu06:04
kubunteroI suppose in theory06:06
karllenzi have kubuntu 7.04 will the installer update me to 7.10?06:14
kubunterokarllenz: Which installer>06:16
karllenzthe little triangle at the corner of my screen lol06:17
karllenzits called adept06:17
kubunteroOh06:18
kubunteroKinda06:18
karllenzi found a how to06:19
kubunteroKubuntu.org would have one06:19
funcrushI just finished upgrade to kde 3.5.9 but root directory is mounted on my desktop. How can i mount my Desktop folder on my Desktop?06:20
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noaXessgood morning..07:10
noaXessis kde 3.5.9 stable?07:11
loll I have some source code and have identified an error i how it tries to identify PAGE_SIZE, however I do not know if my workaround actually solves it, and need a hand07:25
default_oploll: you probably should be in #kubuntu-devel07:29
default_opnoaXess: yep it's stable07:30
noaXessdefault_op: okay.. thanks :)07:33
noaXesslet's go to upgrade to 3.5.9 :)07:33
default_opnoaXess: well it's what I think I read on kde.org.  can't get the site up though07:35
surgywill a feisty deb work in my kubuntu 7.10 ?07:35
surgyor a dapper deb ?07:36
default_opKDE 3.5.9 released.07:36
default_opOn 19th February 2008, the KDE community released the ninth update for the stable version of KDE. This release features numerous bugfixes all over KDE, and a more-stable-than-ever enterprise version of KDE-PIM.07:36
karllenzthats the comandl line to reconfig X07:37
karllenzwhat*07:37
default_opsurgy: what is the deb you have?07:37
default_opsurgy: can't you egt a new version?07:37
surgydefault_op: no i cant get a newer one and its panda3d07:38
default_opsurgy: most things should be backward compatible but ther may depend on named older resources07:38
surgywhich one whould be most likely to work?07:39
default_opsurgy: I'm not expert but I'd say unless the problem asked for a kernel rebuild then you should be pretty right.07:40
default_opsurgy: which was the last kernel model?  feisty07:42
default_opKrusader is a great app07:46
cishpixhow can I run public file server in kde4?07:49
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gorthi07:54
gorthow do I check my ext3 system for errors and fix 'em?07:54
appelzafsck.ext307:57
appelzaor just fsck07:57
gortthanx a lot07:57
noaXessin kde 3.5.9 are there some visual changes or only background upgrades?08:34
agoHi all08:38
agowe need testers for Wubi installation of kubuntu08:38
agoif you have windows (on real iron or vm) + 5GB free please consider trying wubi08:38
agoyou will find that in the latest daily ISO08:38
agopls report any issue in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=23408:39
quocdaihelp08:42
quocdaianybody help me08:42
quocdaihow  to get gcc on KDE ?08:49
SSJ_GZquocdai: On Kubuntu, you mean?08:49
quocdaiyes08:50
SSJ_GZquocdai: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:50
quocdaiOk thanks08:50
SSJ_GZnp08:50
quocdaibut if my PC doesnt Internet08:50
quocdaihow to het it ?08:50
quocdaihow to get it ?08:50
quocdaiSSJ_GZ:08:52
SSJ_GZquocdai: It might be on the CD.08:52
quocdaican i download image file  ISO ?08:53
quocdaiSSJ_GZ help me pls08:56
SSJ_GZquocdai: I don't know, sorry.08:56
quocdaiOk08:56
quocdaithank so much08:56
quocdai:)08:56
quocdaianother problem08:57
quocdaiabout codec for MP308:57
quocdaiWMV08:57
quocdaiwhere is it ?08:57
sd32!songbird08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:59
eirikeylandsbranIs there some easy way to "factory" reset kubuntu?09:00
quocdai!codec09:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:00
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quocdai!codec09:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:01
quocdai!gcc09:02
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)09:02
quocdai!tar:/home/quocdai/x-unikey-0.9.2.tar.bz2/x-unikey-0.9.209:02
boris_yeah09:21
ActionParsniphey all09:26
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twosouls82does "nice" also affect child processes?09:45
RaiduHey guys :)09:48
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hrd3HELLO10:00
joseas10:07
josebuenas a todos10:08
josenecesito algo de ayuda10:08
josesoy totalmente nuevo en esto10:08
josey quiero instalar el amsn10:08
josepero no tengo ni idea de cómo hacerlo10:08
josealguien puede orientarme un poco10:09
Raiduhey guys ;)10:16
jpatrickhi10:16
twosouls82"sudo apt-get --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings" -> "Unknown argument for /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubuntu-default-settings.postrm" (Ubuntu 7.10)10:17
jpatricktwosouls82: try apt-get install --reinstall*10:17
Raiduwas up?10:18
twosouls82jpatrick: I did, I forgot to quote it10:18
jpatricktwosouls82: remove it and then install again10:18
jpatrickRaidu: please take offtopic to to #kubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel :)10:19
Raiduo yea forgot that :P10:19
embrikI've forgotten my root-password. What do I do?10:20
jpatrick!noroot | embrik10:21
ubotuembrik: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)10:21
twosouls82jpatrick: "sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-default-settings  && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings" and after this reinstalling causes it again (plain removal went fine)10:21
jpatrickembrik: enter the rescue kernel and type "passwd"10:21
jpatricktwosouls82: maybe it just doesn't know what "purge" means...10:21
twosouls82jpatrick: it does, it only complains when I use "--reinstall", all other actions complete without errors10:22
Sbucatone_wee helllo10:22
embrikjpatrick: ok10:22
twosouls82:)10:22
jpatricktwosouls82: hmm, no idea then10:22
embrikjpatrick: you mean single user10:22
jpatrickembrik: when grub loads choice the rescue one10:23
embrikjpatrick: ok10:23
Raidu!theme10:24
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:24
jpatrick!msgthebot > Raidu (see pm frmo ubotu :))10:24
Raiduok.10:25
Raidujpatrick, hey man how can i change themes on kubuntu?10:27
jpatrickRaidu: from system settings in the kmenu10:28
Raiduk but whats the file name that i need to have on theme ?10:28
jpatrickcan't remembre (am at school on windows box)10:29
Raiduk10:29
Raiduthanks anyway10:30
jpatrickRaidu: look in adept for kde-style or something..10:30
ibm_o10:33
Raiduk10:34
joakim2cake10:34
Raidudamn the kde theme installer doesnt work :S10:35
Raidujpatrick, whats the command for gnome panel or whats it called?10:36
jpatrickRaidu: no idea, (don't use gnome) but the kde one is "kicker"10:37
sigma_1234what hapend to hardy alpha 5?10:37
jpatricksigma_1234: blocked by bad builds10:38
jpatrickor something freaky happened by what I read10:38
Raidujpatrick,  how can i make it active or smth?10:38
sigma_1234so its not going to be released?10:38
jpatricksigma_1234: soon10:38
embrikI am not able to grab video from dv-camera - can anybody help-10:38
embrik<i'm usin kino10:39
jpatrickembrik: you got your root back?10:39
embrikjpatrick: yes10:39
jpatrickembrik: great10:39
jpatricksigma_1234: try asking in #kubuntu-devel10:39
embrikjpatrick: thanks - do you know iee1394? I'm not able to grab video10:39
jpatrickembrik: no I don't...10:39
embrikok10:40
sigma_1234ok cool. thanks10:40
embrikanybody else who can help with grabbing video?10:41
embrikI get raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write10:42
sigma_1234aparently the ubuntu after hardy will make those work well10:42
nevilleI've written a script for neverwinter nights, which allows me to start the game on a seperate xserver with i type in nwn, and it works fine up until when I select play from its splash menu, in which case is shuts down the xserver and drops me back to cli. this doesn't happen when I go through all the steps manually to start it this way. Anybody have any ideas?10:42
apparlehwllo10:44
apparlehello10:44
apparle :)10:45
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gundam_rx78nt1hello.10:48
gundam_rx78nt1Now I am tired of seeing this error...10:48
apparlewhich10:49
andy!mplayer10:49
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs10:49
andyany one able to help with player web plugin?10:49
andy!codecs10:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:50
gundam_rx78nt1I try to update and since it tried to install the linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic package it keeps failing trying to create/update the update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic10:51
gundam_rx78nt1take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56938/10:51
gundam_rx78nt1Please I need some help on this...10:51
andyhi i am having a problem with the mplayer web plugin10:53
gundam_rx78nt1Please I need some help on this...10:55
gundam_rx78nt1take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56938/10:55
gundam_rx78nt1I try to update and since it tried to install the linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic package it keeps failing trying to create/update the update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic10:55
abcdIs it worth to upgrade to KDE 3.5.9 - They say: "Security and other updates may not be applied promptly." What do you folks think?10:58
apparleI don't understand one thing> Why are they developing KDE 3.5.9 when 4.0 is here11:00
SlimeyPeteapparle: 3.5.9 is a mainenance release11:01
SlimeyPeteit mainly fixes bugs, like a service pack for Windows11:01
apparleSlimeyPete: and what does a maintainance release mean11:02
apparleWhich one is better Koffice or Open Offce11:02
SlimeyPeteapparle: it means they don't develop major new features, but they do fix existing bugs or improve the efficiency of the code11:02
SlimeyPeteapparle: most projects do this (e.g. the Linux 2.4 kernel was/is maintained for ages after 2.6 came out)11:03
emilsedghapparle: OpenOffice is has more features atm.koffice is better from a developer point of view11:04
apparleSlimeyPete: Thanks for the info11:04
SlimeyPetekoffice tends to be faster11:04
emilsedghs/is/Null :P11:04
SlimeyPeteI prefer it, but I don't need advanced features in a word processor11:04
apparlestdin: are you there11:05
abcdIs there any script, or patch or whatever which fixes big fonts in a taskbar, missing icons and things like these in KDE 4.0.1 ?11:08
gundam_rx78nt1I try to update and since it tried to install the linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic package it keeps failing trying to create/update the update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic11:11
gundam_rx78nt1take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56938/11:11
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coggzHi11:19
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orbitizeI really need some help  :S I tried to install a second screen to run dual screen, restarted xserver, but now my kdm doesnt want to start, and I am stuck at command prompt. What can I do to get my display up again?11:30
SlimeyPeteorbitize: did you back up your xorg.conf first? (If you used a graphical utility to make the change, it probably did this for you)11:30
orbitizeI used the system settings to change the screen settings11:31
orbitizedoes that make a backup?11:32
SlimeyPetehrm... probably ;) If it did, the backup would be called something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.011:32
orbitizeah, okay, I will take a look now11:33
orbitizeseems there is one called xorg.conf.111:33
orbitizeI'll try copying it over the other one11:33
SlimeyPeteyeah, try that11:33
SlimeyPetethen do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"11:34
orbitizeYES! Thank you thank you! It works:) I will just have to live without dual screen then..hehe11:34
coggzyay, i just got another ipod!11:38
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gundam_rx78nt1!twinview |orbitize11:49
ubotuorbitize: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead11:49
coggz!DualHead11:51
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama11:51
apparlellutz: are you ther11:51
gundam_rx78nt1brb11:51
apparlewhile installing softwares on wine I get errors like (Windows NT 3.0 required) what to do11:52
coggzapparle: change the compatibility mode in wine config to whatever th prog needs11:55
c0p-1-cr0nhi11:56
coggzc0p-1-cr0n: hi11:56
apparlecoggz: Changed it to WinXP still getting the error in the setup11:56
coggzapparle: try changine to NT 3.511:57
apparlecoggz: what if I adownload XP service pack 2 from microsoft site ad install it on wine11:58
coggzapparle: it seems NT 3.0 is windows 9511:58
coggzapparle: i don't think that would work11:58
coggzapparle: what program is it that needs NT 3.0?12:00
|TroubleMaker|anybody use a brother hl 2140? my hl1040 has bit the dust and these are still on the shelf and reasonably priced. I see on the brother website that they have a driver for it in .rpm but dont see a .deb and do not see any meantion of it on the ubuntu wiki.12:00
coggz|TroubleMaker|: could you use alien to convert it12:01
jussi01!alien12:01
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)12:01
|TroubleMaker|i thought about that. wondered what kind of can of worms i'd be opening though12:01
coggz|TroubleMaker|: hmm, try the conversion and if it works then go and buy it! How did you have your last one working?12:02
|TroubleMaker|the hl1040 was supported in ubuntu12:02
coggz|TroubleMaker|: oh, i see, is it a similar printer in functions...12:03
|TroubleMaker|im poking through the list of brother printers in cups now to see if it's there. i dont see anything real special about this printer over the 1040 but..............wanting to ask before i create myself a headache i dont have a lot of $$$$ for hardware problems at the moment! LOL12:04
|TroubleMaker|isnt that the way it always goes though?12:04
Administrator_Hi all, during updating the OS, the system is stucking on the following line: "99% [14 Sources bzip2 0]"12:04
Administrator_do you have any idea what could that be?12:04
apparlecoggz: Its pretty old. Something like "Learn to Speak English 7", me freind needs it12:04
apparlewhat does LOL mean everyone uses it12:05
|TroubleMaker|Laugh Out Loud12:05
coggz|TroubleMaker|: does the store offer returns?12:05
coggzlol means Laugh Out Loud12:05
|TroubleMaker|its office depot do i'd assume so12:05
coggz|TroubleMaker|: buy itt, see if it works, and if not take it back!12:05
|TroubleMaker|yea, guess that's the worst that could happen right?12:06
jussi01|TroubleMaker|: have you checked on linuxprinting.org ?12:06
|TroubleMaker|ah no i havent checked there, just looked at the ubunt wiki12:07
peto----------- who can help with a font in kubuntu -------------------12:07
coggzpeto: go ahead...12:08
apparlepeto: Ask the question straight way. Don't flood the channel with foolishness12:08
coggz!ask | peto12:09
ubotupeto: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)12:09
petook....12:10
petoi am not very happy with my font in kubuntu12:10
petoi know there is nice smooth font in windows12:10
coggzapparle: Learn to speak german (looks similar) is rated garbage on wine hq12:10
petohow can i get a nice font in kubuntu as well12:10
coggzpeto: copy font from windows12:10
petoacctualy i can have a nice font as well, but only with size 8 and it is too small12:11
petodo you know what i mean... a smooth font?12:11
loonyxpAnybody knows why packages of kubuntu for kde4 where compiled with a dependency called libkdefx.so.5? normally this isn't part of kde4 and so it is missing...12:11
coggzpeto: copy the fonts that you want and import into kubuntu12:12
Administrator_hi all12:12
Administrator_when running apt-get update the system is stucking on the following line "99% [14 Sources bzip2 0]"12:13
Administrator_anyone has an idea about hoe to fix that?12:13
petocoggz and thats it?12:13
coggzpeto: yes,12:13
petoare they gonna be nice12:14
petoi mean good looking12:14
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coggzpeto: well if they look good in windows, then obviously yes12:14
apparlepeto: how will you know if you don't try12:14
petook...12:15
petocan you just tell me please where do i need to copy them12:15
petowhat folder12:15
coggzpeto: anywhere, then use font manager12:15
apparleCan I remove ALSA sound system12:16
felix_ehi@all12:16
felix_eis there a reason the ppa-packages are not signed?12:16
felix_enot even with a automatic server signature?12:16
apparlebye everyone12:16
petocoggz i sorry, but i am new in linux, can you help with that12:16
felix_ethe current configuration seems to be highly unprofessional to me :/12:17
petowhere i can find font manager12:17
jussi01!fonts  | peto12:17
ubotupeto: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer12:17
coggzpeto: sure, paste the fonts into /home/peto/ select the ones you want, then click install on the right hand side12:17
vikku_iam not able to play anything n kaffeine12:20
coggz!kaffeine12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:21
coggz!kaffine12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kaffine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:21
vikku_ok12:21
Administrator_sdfdsfdsfdsfsdfds12:23
coggzhi nosrednaekim12:25
nosrednaekimhey coggz12:25
coggzdoes anyone know how to rip a region 1 dvd to region 2 ?12:25
jussi01!avi  | vikku_:12:26
ubotuvikku_:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:26
petocoggz i am sorry but its still not what i want12:28
coggzpeto: what is wrong with it?12:28
petoi got windows fonts already, but its not working like i would like12:28
petodo you know what i mean with smooth font12:29
coggzdoes ripping a dvd then burning it make it region free?12:31
petosbucatone_ can you help please12:32
nosrednaekimpeto » turn on anti-aliasing?12:32
nosrednaekimor turn it off...12:32
petohow can i check?12:33
jussi01peto: usually its not the best just to ping random people :)12:33
petodo you mean sbucatone12:34
jussi01yeah12:34
nosrednaekimpeto » systemsettings->appearance->fonts12:34
petohe was helping me last time, so i thing its not gonna be a big problem for him...12:34
petook, i am there12:35
nosrednaekimpeto » see the option for anti-aliasing?12:36
petoyeah12:36
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nosrednaekimpeto » change it to something else :)12:39
petonosrednaekim, what is force fonts DPI12:41
yao_ziyuanplease help digg my this item: "Cross-platform RAD tools critical to Linux's desktop future": http://digg.com/linux_unix/Cross_platform_RAD_tools_critical_to_Linux_s_desktop_future12:41
petonosrednaekim and whis subpixel hinting do i have to use12:42
nosrednaekimpeto » don't worry about that12:42
nosrednaekimpeto » whis?12:42
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nosrednaekimpeto » just experiment... I've never tried turning that stuff on12:42
Airforce5555There is a problem with my laptop with kubuntu12:43
petook but it looks like nothing happend12:43
Airforce5555whenever I load up, it goes through the initial loading screen12:43
petodo i have a restart graphic12:43
nosrednaekimpeto » I think you have to log out and then back in.12:43
Airforce5555then goes to it again and just turns to a black screen12:43
|Dreams|has any got a good sources list for kubuntu gutsy x64 please12:43
petonosrednaekim do you know what....12:43
petoi got one more problem12:44
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » is there anything on ctrl+alt+f2 or th monitor "lose the signal"12:44
Airforce5555Its just a black screen which i can type in12:44
Airforce5555like normal symbols but no funcitions or delete or any of that12:44
skarhi, i'm running konsole and it runs sh->dash instead of bash, is there a way to tell konsole to run bash from now on?12:44
petoi lost commands restart pc and turn off computer from log out12:45
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » so you can got to ctr;+alt+f2?12:45
petonosrednaekim do yo know how to fix it12:45
Airforce5555oh wait brb12:45
Airforce5555let me try12:45
nosrednaekimpeto » are you using XGL?12:45
petothing so12:45
Airforce5555yes it looks liek a terminal12:45
Airforce5555when I use that function12:45
petonosrednaekim i think i am12:45
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » ok..log  in there.12:46
Airforce5555how? never have12:46
petonosrednaekim i can run compiz, it means i am?12:46
nosrednaekimpeto » well, thats a common problem, let me go find the asnwer.12:46
petoit will be nice, thank you12:46
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » enter your user name, then enter your password12:46
nosrednaekimpeto » if you have an ATI card, yes12:46
petono, nvidia12:46
nosrednaekimpeto » then no... its not XGL12:47
Airforce5555ok ive done that, but I still see a black screen instead of the usual default kubuntu?12:47
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » no... stay over there... we have to enter some commands.12:48
Airforce5555Dont worry about me leaving that, I dont know how =\12:48
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » what video card do you have?12:48
Airforce5555nvidia12:48
petonosrednaekim so how can i fix it?12:48
nosrednaekimok.... how did you install the driver?12:48
nosrednaekimpeto » lets check if you have XGL,run "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"12:49
Airforce5555I think kubuntu just recognized it from the startup12:49
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » so you didn't manually install any drivers12:49
Airforce5555not video12:49
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » in that case, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"12:50
Sbucatone_peto: ?12:50
petoyes12:50
Sbucatone_peto: about what ?12:50
petoafter install compiz i lost commands restart pc and turn off pc from kde log out menu12:51
petothere only log out left, do you know how to fix it?12:51
nosrednaekimpeto » check if XGL is installed12:51
Sbucatone_:)12:52
petoi think it is12:52
Sbucatone_peto: what kind of card have you ?12:52
petoit said installed version is 1.1.99.112:52
nosrednaekimpeto » run "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"12:52
nosrednaekimah... ok12:52
petonvidia 8800 gts12:52
coggzbye all12:52
nosrednaekimpeto » remove that12:52
Airforce5555nosrednaekim ok ive done that and selected nvidia and a resolutin12:53
Sbucatone_peto: ah that guy i remember12:53
petohow can i remove it12:53
peto:)12:53
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » ok,now run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"12:53
petoand why do i need to remove it12:53
nosrednaekimpeto » "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl"12:53
nosrednaekimpeto » because nvidias don'trequire it12:53
petobut can i still run compiz after remove12:54
Sbucatone_peto:  have you fixed your problem with your card ?12:54
Sbucatone_peto: compiz is running now ?12:54
petosbucatone yes, compiz is running well now12:54
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Sbucatone_peto: to know what have you done more than i said you last time ?12:55
Airforce5555still a black screen12:55
Sbucatone_peto: something of particular ?12:55
petonosrednaekim can i still run compiz after remove that12:55
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » ok.... switch back to the nv driver.12:56
petoi found something in forum so i was following instruction and it helps12:56
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » run the dpkg-reconfigure command again12:56
petobut you helped me as well12:56
petoits nice now12:56
nosrednaekimpeto » yes, you can remove XGL and still have compiz12:56
petoi like it12:56
Airforce5555which driver12:57
petonosrednaekim, i gonna try12:57
Airforce5555nv? not nvidia12:57
Raidudoes anyone know how to change kde themes ? the kde theme installer doesnt work for me :(12:57
Dr_willisit might be better to see why its not working12:57
Dr_willisThere are a lot of kde themes in the repos - not installed by defaulkt12:57
nosrednaekimAirforce5555 » right12:58
Raiduwillis i downloaded like 5 themes non worked :S12:58
Airforce5555ok restart also?12:58
Raiduis there any other way to install them?12:58
Airforce5555It worked!!!! thank you soooo much12:59
Airforce5555I was pretty worried i would not be able to use it12:59
Airforce5555=D12:59
Dr_willisRaidu,  i would most likely guess you need to learn a bit more about how KDE handles themes. and uncompress/install/compile them12:59
Dr_willisKDE themes can be a bit.. complex. :)12:59
Dr_willis!kdetheme12:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:59
Dr_willis!changetheme12:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:59
Dr_willisI never can rember that factoid.13:00
nosrednaekim!theme13:00
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy13:00
petonosrednaekim, it doesnt help13:00
* nosrednaekim teh awesomeness :)13:00
nosrednaekimpeto » you have to reboot I think.13:00
nosrednaekimor at least restart KDM13:00
RaiduDr_willis,  i allready readed those all :S13:01
nosrednaekim!changethemes13:01
ubotuTo change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes13:01
Raidubut still i can try them13:01
petoi did13:02
petonosrednaekim, it doesnt help13:02
nosrednaekimpeto » doesn't help with the log out options?13:02
nosrednaekimpeto » you probably still have xgl installed13:03
Dr_willisRaidu,  a 'theme' technicially is a file that defines what other 'parts' to use. which widget set, icons, colors and so forth. each of those parts gets installed/compiled differently13:03
Dr_williswidgets, window decoration, icons, colors.. I think are the 4 parts. :) thats why i was wanting to find that url.13:04
Dr_williswindow decoration and widgets are normally compiled/installed like other apps would be.13:04
petonosrednaekim, it said try to run apt-get -f install13:04
nosrednaekimpeto » lets try "sudo apt-get purge xserver-xgl"13:05
petothe same message13:07
petonosrednaekim, there is one more thing i would like to know13:10
petonosrednaekim, i saw some pictures of linux with look like mac os X13:10
nosrednaekimpeto » well, run "sudo apt-get -f install"  guess13:10
nosrednaekimpeto » well, its def. possible, I have done it13:11
petonosrednaekim,  can you help to try please...13:12
nosrednaekimpeto » sure.... install the baghira KDE style13:13
petonosrednaekim, everything i gonna do will not destroy my compiz?13:13
nosrednaekimnope13:14
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teo-hi i am trying to partition the hard using fdisk but when i try to write the changes with the command w i get : WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument. The kernel still uses the old table.13:21
teo-?13:21
dancemusiconlyHi! I've got a question. How to bind Alt+Shift for changing language?13:23
nosrednaekimteo- » is the partition surrently mounted?13:24
teo-yes..13:25
dancemusiconlyHelp me plz!!!13:25
jpatrickdancemusiconly: look under keyboard shortcuts in system settings13:26
ekrengeldoes anyone know where the udev rules are in kubuntu to stop my wireless card from renaming itself?13:27
jpatrickekrengel: /etc/udev/13:27
ekrengelyeah but which file13:27
petonosrednaekim, can i install it in terminal?13:27
ekrengel: )13:27
nosrednaekimpeto » I think so13:27
jpatrickekrengel: somewhere in there... :)13:28
llutzekrengel:  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules13:28
nosrednaekimjpatrick » power went out last night sorry..... looked at your wiki this morning :)13:28
petonosrednaekim, do you know the command13:28
llutzekrengel:  /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules13:28
nosrednaekim!find baghira13:28
ubotuFound: kwin-baghira13:28
nosrednaekimpeto » sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira"13:28
jpatricknosrednaekim: I did say you "shouldn't" look at it :)13:29
llutzekrengel: that usually happens if the MAC-address of your card changes at boot-time13:29
ekrengelllutz: they dont exeist on mine13:29
petonosrednaekim,  because in adept there is updating running and i dont know how to open it again13:29
jpatrick!adeptfix | peto13:29
ubotupeto: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:29
llutzekrengel: they are part of udev-package13:29
ekrengelllutz: i have persistent-input and persistent-storage13:29
nosrednaekimpeto » oh....you can't do that.13:29
ekrengelbut not -net or generator13:29
nosrednaekimjpatrick » bleh..... and they tell me not to hit the little red buttons.13:29
llutzekrengel: using gutsy?13:29
ekrengelfiesty13:29
petonosrednaekim, i cant open two in the same time13:30
peto?13:30
llutzekrengel: ah ok, this is gutsy, sry13:30
SidekickzHello people.13:30
ekrengelllutz: my bad should have mentioned that13:30
llutzekrengel: look for /etc/ifname13:30
SidekickzKubuntu Gutsy use Yaboo to dual boot?13:30
nosrednaekimpeto » no13:30
nosrednaekimSidekickz » Yahoo?13:31
petonosrednaekim, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.13:31
SidekickzSorry, Yaboot.13:31
ekrengelllutz: i have "iftab" not ifname though13:31
llutzekrengel: /etc/iftab it is13:31
ekrengeloh13:32
ekrengel: )13:32
llutzekrengel: there you can name your device according to its MAC13:32
ekrengelllutz: ok thanks13:33
jussi01peto, then run: sudo dpkg --configure -a13:33
petonosrednaekim, errors during instaling sun-java6-plugin13:33
nosrednaekimpeto » bleh..... "sudo apt-get upgrade"13:34
petotry to use -f13:35
SidekickzI can´t find yaboot.conf. Anyone can help me?13:36
Dr_willistry the locate command?13:37
Dr_willissudo updatedb13:37
Dr_willislocate yaboot.conf13:37
petonosrednaekim, what can i do now?13:38
SidekickzLocate returns nothing.13:38
harmentalhey guys...after upgrading to kde 3.5.9...I got a kded process which is literally eating my RAM....13:39
harmentalis that normal? any solutions?13:39
Dr_willisSidekickz,  after updating the database ? if  updatedb + locate dont find it.. then its not isntalled13:39
petonosrednaekim, i used sudo dpkg --configure -a13:39
petonosrednaekim, i am installing baghira now13:40
petonosrednaekim, are you still here13:40
petonosrednaekim, its done... whats the next step13:41
peto-------------- who know how to get a mac os X look in kubuntu??? -------------------13:42
jussi01peto: systemsettings -> appearance13:43
jussi01peto: please dont do that ;)13:43
petowhy not13:43
petojust want to try13:43
PiciHe means the dashes.13:43
petodo i gonna lost something?13:43
jussi01peto: a little patience goes a long  way :)13:43
petojussi01 but you know how to set up it?13:44
jussi01peto: as I said, go to systemsettings -> appearance13:44
jussi01selece the baghira from there13:44
petojussi01 where i can find baghire in there13:45
NthDegreeK Menu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Style [choose baghira] -> Apply13:45
NthDegree@ peto13:46
niallwindow decorations too?13:46
petonthdegree can you help?13:46
jussi01peto: NthDegree just told you what to do...13:47
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NthDegreeFloodbot may kick me for this...13:48
jussi01NthDegree: dont!!!13:48
NthDegreeClick on the K Menu (The K menu on bottom left)13:48
NthDegreeClick System Settings13:48
NthDegreeClick Appearance on the menu that appears13:48
NthDegreeClick on "Style" from there13:48
petonthdegree and what next?13:48
NthDegreeUnder "Widget Style" choose Baghira13:49
NthDegreeThen click "Apply"13:49
petonthdegree but its not all, is it?13:49
petonthdegree i have this done13:49
appelza hmm, if I license software from another company to use in my own product, is that outsourcing or insourcing? ;p13:49
NthDegreeappelza: outsourcing13:50
appelzaty13:50
NthDegreepeto: If you wish to have the window decoration, choose "Window Decorations" and from there choose Baghira too if it is available13:50
petonthdegree but i would like to have also the menu like in mac, do you know what i mean? is it possible to get it as well?13:51
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ximoubuntu13:51
paulohello all13:51
NthDegreepeto: yes it is possible13:51
petonthdegree i mean that bottom menu13:51
NthDegreesearch for a "dock" that you like on google13:52
NthDegreeit's called the dock so just google dock for KDE and see what piece of software you want for that13:52
jussi01avant window navigator ftw!13:52
istvanhi! could someone help me with some config/make/install problem? would like to instell video driver, but dont know how...13:53
petonthdegree ok, i got windows decoration set up in baghira too...13:54
pauloistvan: i'll help you13:54
paulofirst make sure you have the required compilers13:55
paulosudo ap-get install build-essential13:55
NthDegreeistvan: which video driver?13:55
paulo*sudo apt-get install build-essential13:55
nadohi there13:55
nadoi got a problem, i can't mount a cd-rom13:56
istvanxf86-video-intel is the driver... thx paulo, will do at once13:56
petonthdegree are you still here?13:56
NthDegreepeto: yep13:57
NthDegreenado: are you mounting as root?13:57
paulook, once the build-essential is installed i will give you the next steps13:57
petonthdegree so i got windows set up in baghira too, what next13:57
nadogot an .img file, tried to mount it, didn't work. burnt it using brasero, for k3b does not support .img files, but mounting the cdrom won't work either13:57
nadoNthDegree: yup13:57
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NthDegreepeto: get yourself an application to give you an OS-X style dock13:58
nadomount returns bad fs type etc13:58
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Dr_willisThere is a Fuse Iso/other tool that can mount many different cd image files. Or convert it to.iso manually13:58
NthDegreemaybe it's a bad .img13:58
paulonado: just mount the .img file instead of the cdrom13:58
paulonado: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14919713:58
nadodmesg | tail says something about not recognizing CD-Rom format13:58
petonthdegree how can i get it please?13:58
petonthdegree what kind of application do you mean?13:59
istvanpaulo: i am ready with build essentials13:59
nadopaulo: tried that, did not work13:59
NthDegreepeto: there are many different applications.. use google to find the one you think will serve you best13:59
paulook, are the drivers in .bin format or in an archive... eg .tar or .tar.gz13:59
NthDegreegoogling a phrase such as Dock for KDE or the like will give you some ideas14:00
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petonthdegree sorry but i still dont know what do i need to find... what exactlly do i need to find14:01
istvanpaulo: everything is in a simple folder...14:01
paulook so in the terminal go to that folder14:01
NthDegreepeto: an application to provide an OS X style dock for KDE14:01
pauloistvan then type ./configure14:01
pauloistvan after configure type make14:02
pauloistvan and after make type 'sudo make install'14:02
istvani get the result no such file or directory...14:02
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pauloso there is no configure file in that folder?14:02
nadosudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.img mountpoint returns bad fs type, bad superblock, bla bla bla any idea?14:02
NthDegreepeto_: sudo apt-get install kooldock <- if you can't find anything you like off google14:02
peto_nthdegree i foudn one, but it said its for ubuntu14:03
peto_nthdegree its called simdock14:03
nosrednaekimpeto_ » AWN works in KDE too14:03
istvanthere is a configure.ac, makefile.am, autogen.sh...14:03
NthDegreepeto_: good find, but that one is for GNOME =]14:03
NthDegreeyou're quite right when you say it's for Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu14:04
peto_nthdegree so can i install that kooldock?14:04
NthDegreeyeps it's made for KDE and looks a bit like the OS X one14:04
nosrednaekimkool dock is buggy.... I reccomend AWN, even though its heavily gnome based.14:05
peto_so what do i have to do now???14:05
paulothen try ./configure.ac14:06
paulothen sudo makefile.am14:06
NthDegreenosrednaekim: it appears to work.. once you've got it going correctly14:06
paulonever came across those type of build files before tbh14:06
nosrednaekimmmmmm, well I geuss its worth a shot14:06
NthDegreepeto_: run kooldock14:07
peto_fellas please... what do i need to do now, what choice?14:07
nadowoah crap14:07
NthDegreepeto_: K Menu -> Run Command -> [type kooldock in the box] -> Run14:07
istvanpaulo: with ./conf... i get access denied14:07
NthDegreepaulo: is ./configure executable?14:08
peto_nthdegree couldnt not run specified command14:08
istvanerm permission denied...14:08
nosrednaekimpeto_ » sudo apt-get install kooldock14:08
NthDegreeistvan: chmod 755 the file14:08
paulook so try chmod +x configure.ac14:09
NthDegreethat will get round the issue =]14:09
paulo:)14:09
NthDegreeyep that too14:09
nadodoes anybody know if it's possible to burn an .img file with k3b?14:09
NthDegreenado: convert it to a .iso14:09
Dr_willisI wonder if that nerolinux can burn them14:10
Dr_willisis it a .img of a game cd? or somthing else special?14:10
nadoNthDegree: how? :)14:10
peto_nthdegree i am ready14:10
NthDegreepeto_: did you do a sudo apt-get install kooldock?14:10
istvanline 23: syntax error near unexpected token '2.5714:10
peto_yes14:10
nadoDr_willis: yup, it's fallout 2 ;)14:10
NthDegreepeto_: if so it's time for K Menu -> Run Command -> [type kooldock in the box] -> Run14:10
nosrednaekimNthDegree » alt+f2 may be easier ;)14:11
pauloistvan what is the model of your Intel graphics card14:11
NthDegreeDr_willis: it will burn it but Nero Linux will he either needs a cuesheet or will need to know sector sizes etc. for a raw burn14:11
Dr_willisnado,  best bet if yoyu want to play a game with wine. is to track down a 'of debateable legality' no-cd-crack for the game.14:11
paulothe solution may already be in the repository!14:11
peto_nthdegree ok, its running and how to set up it now?14:12
NthDegreemove your pointer to the bottom of the screen14:12
Dr_willisconverting to .iso and burning - will lose the special copy-protection info most likely14:12
nadoDr_willis: at first i should be able to access the data on the disk and that's my problem14:12
NthDegreeand you have an OS X-like dock14:12
NthDegreeright click it when it appears to edit items on it14:12
BluesKajHowdy folks  :-)14:12
Dr_willisnado,  just converting to .iso should let you mount/install the game. Running it - will be another story. :) if it in fact does have copy protection14:13
istvanx3100 or gm96514:13
peto_nthdegree it still hiding, can i turn it off14:14
nadoDr_willis: yeah I'm trying to find a way to convert it right now14:14
Dr_willis!info bchunk14:14
ubotubchunk (source: bchunk): CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-6 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 68 kB14:14
NthDegreepeto_: turn off the hiding or turn off the dock altogether?14:14
Dr_willisnado,  then theres some fuse/iso tools that can mount a lot of image files also14:14
NthDegreemhare@HP3700:~$ apt-cache search iso | grep fuse14:15
NthDegreefuseiso - FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images14:15
peto_nthdegree just hiding for now14:15
NthDegreepeto_: it doesn't seem to have an option for it14:15
z5000manhas anyone in here used ispconfig before14:15
nadoany idea what an .mdf image is?14:15
Dr_willisthre may be some other tools at the FUSE web site.14:15
nadobtw ;)14:15
Dr_willismdf = used by dawmon tools, and alcohol120%14:15
noaXessneed i extra tools to run/install rpm packages?14:16
Dr_willisit has special copy priotection info in it also14:16
nadowill bchunk convert that too?14:16
Dr_willisnado,  no idea.  I dont warez games. :)14:16
nosrednaekim!rpm14:16
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)14:16
* NthDegree be back in a bit - food time!14:16
nadoit's a game from 1997, i'd buy it but tell me where to get it ;)14:16
Dr_willisnado,   ebay? :)14:16
nadogood point :D14:16
Dr_willisactually a lot of the old games are now on the Valve/Steam stuff also.14:16
nadognarf steam sucks14:17
Vedavoxwhich game?14:17
nadoit worked like a charm once, but somehow i can't install it right now14:17
nadoVedavox: fallout14:17
Vedavoxwill it work with dosbox, a lot of older games do14:18
Dr_willisi think fallout2 = windows 95 ga,me14:18
Dr_willisfallout1 = dos (i think)14:18
nevilleFallout works perfectly in Wine for me14:18
Dr_willisActually I think i have a copy of fallout2 somewhere..14:18
nevilleFull screen and everything, no graphical glitches either14:18
Dr_willisthats the one where you are running around a wasteland?14:19
nevilleSound works great too14:19
nevilleYeah, it's like a sort of Mad Max setting14:19
nevilleMinus the cars14:19
nadoyup i'd like to use it with wine too14:19
nadoboth parts got platinum ratings there14:19
nadoseem to work perfectly14:20
nevilleWell, what output does it give when you start it with Konsole?14:20
peto_where i can find a new installed software in kubuntu14:20
nosrednaekimpeto_ » use adept.14:21
nadoneville: i'm working on mounting the install disc, no gaming yet ;)14:21
neville:/14:22
BluesKajpeto, what software ?14:22
Dr_willis!adept14:22
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto14:22
nevilleMy experience with Fallout in Wine was just14:22
Dr_willisneville,  did it fall out? :)14:22
nevilleSlap the disk into the drive, install it, play14:22
nevilleNope, the disk never fell out :P14:22
nadohuh somehow i don't get how to use bchunk14:23
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nevilleAlthough with Wine, that should be expected14:23
peto_i just install a dock like in mac os and i want to add more icons there... but i need to find a location of software like firefox for example14:23
nado"Example: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo"14:23
Vedavoxpeto_: /var/log/dpkg.log will show you what you have installed recently14:23
nevilleWhy do you need bchunk?14:23
nadoneville: to convert .img and mount it14:23
nadosince burning and mounting didn't work and mounting the .img won't as well14:23
nevilleAhh14:23
nadoi mean where do i put the file i actually want to convert?14:24
Dr_williswhever you want14:25
nadoi mean in the command14:25
nado"Example: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo"14:25
nevilleWouldn't it just be bchunk /path/to/image.img /path/to/whatever.whatever14:25
nadowhere's the .img or iso or whatever14:25
Dr_williswhen in doubt read the man pages..14:25
Dr_willisyou put the path to whever you got the file at.14:25
nadoyup i'm at it right now, mom14:25
peto_nosrednaekim, can you help please?14:26
llutzpeto_: most apps are located in /usr/bin/14:26
nosrednaekimpeto_ » kinda busy right now.. sorry14:26
nadowoah crap14:27
peto_nosrednaekim, ok14:27
peto_llutz can you help14:27
nadobchunk sucks, the man is useless and if i get it right, there's no support for .img files14:28
BluesKajpeto, look in the kmenu internet for firefox, right click and choose , add to desktop then just drag it into the panel.14:28
istvanpaulo: cannot find in repositories - any other idea?14:29
* Dr_willis thinks its .img that sucks14:29
Dr_willishttp://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FuseIso14:29
Dr_willisthat says it supports .img14:29
Dr_willis!find fuseiso14:30
ubotuFound: fuseiso, fuseiso9660, umview-mod-umfuseiso966014:30
nadoyup img sucks too14:30
Dr_willisand i quote from their web site 'In fact i found what CCD (CloneCD) .IMG files along with .MDF (Alcohol 120%) images can be mounted without problems because their format looks exactly as .BIN image file format. So currently fuseiso supports disk images with following extensions'14:30
nadohmm14:30
nadobut still i can't mount it14:31
Dr_willisusing fuseiso you mean?14:31
nevilleTry AcetoneISO2?14:32
Vedavoxwheere are you trying to mount it?  I just have a blank folder called mount on my desktop where I mount isos etc.14:32
BluesKajnado, kiso supports img file conversion14:32
nadoDr_willis: mom, just trying fuseiso14:33
nadowtf14:33
Picimom?14:33
VedavoxI'm not your mommy14:34
Dr_willisyou do have your set  in the 'fuse' group?14:34
nadoDr_willis: that gotta be it, suddenly i'm not allowed to enter the mountpoint ;)14:34
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb    mentiones the fuse group bit.14:34
Dr_willis:) i wrote that wiki.. heh heh..14:35
arcticpenguin380wats the next kubuntu release named?14:35
andyhi all any ome able to help with mplayer mozilla plugin?14:35
Dr_willisthe mountpoint proberly needs to exist first also14:35
nadoit dows14:35
nadodoes14:35
arcticpenguin380!ibex14:36
ubotuIntrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex14:36
flipstararcticpenguin380: Hardy Heron, 8.04 after that comes Intrepid Ibex 8.1014:36
nadobrb14:36
arcticpenguin380cool14:36
noaXessi think i have killed something on my test machine.. if i want install some packages it get: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `cyrus' in statoverride file14:38
noaXessany idea to fix this.. instead to reinstall my test machine ;)14:39
Dr_willisHmm fuseiso seems to work decently well.14:39
noaXessthere was cyrus-imap installed and i have removed.. but i made a mistake on removing.. cause some other kdebase packages are removed automatically..14:39
Dr_willisat least on the .iso files i have :)14:39
nadohuh14:40
nadoDr_willis: i'm in the fuse group, but i'm still refused access to the folder i mounted the file in14:40
nadobtw how do i unmount something with fuse?14:40
Dr_willisnado,  did you log out and back in?14:40
nadoyup14:40
Dr_willisi use 'sudo umount /whatever/it/was'14:40
nadoah ok14:41
Dr_willisi think thers somthing ya setup where the user can unmount also..but not sure how.14:41
Dr_willisI did a 'fuseiso -p whatever.iso whatever'14:41
nadodid that too14:41
andynado: what are you trying to do?14:41
nadoah now i get it, wait a sec14:41
Dr_willisgrep fuse /etc/group14:42
Dr_willisfuse:x:107:willis14:42
nadoha, works ;)14:42
nadoi forgot i mounted the image using sudo14:42
nadono wonder joining the group didn't allow me to access the mountpoint then14:42
VedavoxnoaXess: try replacing /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride with statoverride-old14:43
Dr_willis:)  Thats the reason for the fuse group. heh14:43
Dr_williswellgood luck. and night. Its bed time here14:43
VedavoxnoaXess: or just ediding it to remove the use cyrus14:43
noaXessVedavox: okay thanks14:43
nadoaaaaaaaaaargh14:43
nadonow wine won't install the damn game14:44
andynado: what game?14:44
nadofallout 214:44
andynot tried that one sorry14:45
nadodon't worry, i'll fix that somehow, it gotta work :)14:45
jussi01!appdb | nado14:47
ubotunado: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org14:47
nadojussi01: got that already, thanks anyway14:48
AndreSTCwhats the name of a good filemanager?14:48
jpatrickAndreSTC: Konqueror?14:48
VedavoxDolphin, thunar, konqueror, midnight commander14:48
AndreSTC[kalenedrael]: thanks14:48
AndreSTCops14:49
AndreSTCk thanks14:49
kalenedrael:P14:50
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evertonolá a tds14:53
jpatrick!es > everton14:54
nadobuenas dias14:54
jpatrick!es | nado, everton14:54
ubotunado, everton: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.14:54
nadojpatrick: i assume that everton would prefer the portuguese version ;)14:55
evertonno yo busco ayuda en portugues14:55
prince_jammysyeah14:55
prince_jammys!pt14:55
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.14:55
Pici!br | everton14:55
ubotueverton: please see above14:55
evertonolá pessoal14:56
noaXesshm.. my adept_manager has no other manage repos look.. just a list of the repos.. before i had the extra window with the tabs..14:59
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emilsedgh!synaptic15:02
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto15:02
noaXessemilsedgh: i know that.. but why has the apperance of my adept_manager changed.?15:03
emilsedghnoaXess: hehe i wanted to know synaptic myself, it wasnt an answer to you :D15:03
noaXessemilsedgh: aha.. :) sorry..15:03
emilsedgh:P15:04
identityhi all , i have problem with ps3 kubuntu kaffeine player , i've connected ps3 audio to my decoder via optical.. when i am watching divx , its crackling ... its happening for 1 sec in every 5 or 10 secs .. any ideas ?15:08
dorkfaceAnybody familiar with crontab?  I'm trying to get firefox to run at a specific time, but it doesn't seem to be working.  crontab file ----> http://pastebin.com/m7411cdc515:10
flipstardorkface: try kcron :)15:10
dorkfaceflipstar: This is just a test to see If I can get it running.  Ultimately, I want it to run a script on a server, but I don't think it would have kcron, since it doesn't have a gui15:12
dorkfaceand I don't have the rights to install anything15:12
nadoyay got fallout 2 working :)15:12
noaXesssoftware-properties-kde need to be installed for adept_manager / manage repositories.. :)15:13
nadoi'm so dumb, don't ask why but anyways.... i had nvidia drivers installed, but i wasn't using em15:14
sigma_how do i specify 'nmi_watchdog=0' at the kernel command line? im trying to run virtualbox and its giving errors about the vboxdrv module not being able to start15:14
nadoand without them and therefore without opengl wine wouldn't run that stupid installer15:14
BluesKajnado, if you had the drivers installed , you were using them15:15
nadoBluesKaj: umm not really. when i ran nvidia-settings i got warned the drivers weren't activated15:16
BluesKajactivated means installed :)15:23
trappistnot necessarily15:23
BluesKajsemantics15:26
cafkahi i have installed backtrack and i want to know how can i see is ti on hd0,3 or hd0,2 i want to add it in the menu.lst????15:28
L3ttuc3how do i set lcd monitor brightness under kde? i could not see any power-save settings, and it's not very nice running my laptop at full brightness, when on battery mode. anybody?15:31
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plodderHi, I was fooling around with /etc/xdg/menus and now my konqueror has forgotten how to behave, asks me every time I click on a folder what he wants me to do...15:38
plodderkmenu is also gone and kcontrol as well - they are still there but nothing in them15:38
unagiif i back up my home folder reinstall kubuntu and paste my home folder back, will the programs that are in the folder like google earth work without any further action?15:40
Vedavoxunagi: assuming that any dependancies are met, yes15:40
unagiif the dependancies are not met will it tell me which ones arent there?15:41
flipstar!clone | unagi15:41
ubotuunagi: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate15:42
Vedavoxbunagi: hopefully, if you run them vvia the Konsole and look at the output.  They will not give you the package names, so you may have to browse15:42
hydrogenwhy the hell does apt think its smarter than me?15:42
flipstarmaybe it is :P ?15:42
Vedavoxhydrogen: LOL15:42
hydrogenI told it to uninstall apache yesterday, and it decided that I _really_ wanted to not only install apache, but also amarok and kdevelop15:42
hydrogenerr, uninstall*15:42
hydrogenand god knows what else15:43
MrJigsawCan i search a folder in kubuntu ?15:43
VedavoxMrJigsaw: in a GUI, use kfind, and they are directories in Linux, Folders are windoze15:46
hydrogenerr15:47
kilraeVedavox: they look like folders15:47
hydrogenthey are folders (or directories) in both15:48
VedavoxI'm been a pedant15:48
hydrogens/pedant/annoying/15:55
plodderstop bickering and answer my question :) which file determins what konqueror should do once you click on a file/directory/whatever?15:56
plodderI've shot my kde and you are talking about folders/directories...15:56
ploddercan't believe it ;)15:56
plodderfwiw, I was fooling around in /etc/xdg/menus15:57
trappistplodder: are you asking about file type associations, like whether gnumeric or kspread or oocalc will be opened if you click a .csv file?15:57
ploddertrappist: yep15:58
ploddertrappist: and when I click on the booklink applet in my taskbar it asks me, too, which application it should use to open it... all associations are lost15:59
plodderbuhuuuuu15:59
trappistplodder: looks like there's one file per association, in /usr/share/mimelnk16:00
trappistplodder: with user-specific overrides in ~/.kde/share/mimelnk16:01
ploddertrappist: cool, thank you for the info! will check whether that is what got borked...16:01
Vedavoxplodder: check /home/user/.kde/share/config and see if any of the files have recently been changed16:03
plodderVedavox: will do, cheers - btw, what is the command to check for recently changed files?16:05
VedavoxI just open the folder in konqueror and sort by date16:05
Vedavoxsorry directory :P16:05
plodderVedavox: hehe, but grrr! my konqueror is borked!!!16:06
Vedavoxok, dolphin then16:06
mith_!kdepim16:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdepim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:06
plodderVedavox: true, could install that thing again...16:07
mith_!kitchensync16:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kitchensync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:07
Vedavoxor midnight commander via konsole16:07
trappistplodder: find /path/to/dir -mtime -1 <-- to see what's changed in the last 24 hours.  change 1 to 3 for 3 days, etc.16:08
mith_kitchensync can't connect to my nokia e50 phone via bluetooth, without any error message. can anybody help me?16:08
ploddertrappist: right,  /usr/share/mimelnk is ok...16:08
trappistplodder: of course, that wouldn't tell you if any files are missing.16:08
trappistplodder: what does this output for you?    find /usr/share/mimelnk -type f | wc -l16:09
ploddertrappist: am on a different machine, so wait...16:10
ploddertrappist: 42316:11
BluesKajnspluginviewer is taking uo 90% of the cpu and konq isn't even running ... this all stsrted after I installed kde 3.5.9. Goodbye konq !16:11
trappistplodder: sounds right.  I have 451 here, but that probably just means I have a few more packages installed than you16:14
trappistBluesKaj: do you also have a stuck acroread process?16:15
ploddertrappist: yeah, and I checked the my home directory and there is nothing to note... It must be something different in /etc/xdg16:15
BluesKajno trappist , but akregator freezes16:16
tzdwill 768Mb of RAM be fine for running Kubuntu with a few apps such as Firefox and Amarok without any lag?16:16
ploddertrappist: I will attempt to copy it from an intact installation to the borked one and take it from there16:16
trappistnot a bad idea16:16
BluesKajtzd , sure16:16
trappisttzd: there will always be lag :)  but that should be enough for a usable desktop machine16:17
ploddertrappist: ksycoca also has something to do with kde menus and associations but I don't know enough about it. Anybody out there with a good link?16:17
BluesKajbrb16:18
trappistplodder: so does kded.  might want to make sure it's running.  might also want to consider running kbuildsycoca.16:18
tzdBluesKaj & trappist: hmm ok. Well i ran ubuntu 7.10 first and i didn't experience any lag at all (?) but ever since I've installed kubuntu 7.10 it lags a bit. Are there any nice ways to improve performace?16:18
unagii cant seem to paste a folder over the network, says something about file doesnt exist16:18
BluesKajtzd it should be fine, but don't upgrade KDE to 3.5.9 from 3.5.816:19
tzdBluesKaj: ok, thanks :) Hmm f I run the "full uppgrade" in synaptic manager... will that upgrade KDE as well?16:19
ploddertrappist: getting tons of error messages on kbuildsycoca - complaining about kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. Will log into X and try there16:20
tzdBluesKaj: *if i run*16:20
BluesKajtxd, not sure , you can check in synaptic16:20
unagihow do you copy files through the network with the prompt?16:21
trappistplodder: you're not doing it as root are you?  if so, don't.  if not, try DISPLAY=:0 kbuildsycoca16:21
trappistunagi: scp16:21
tekteenwhat protocol?16:21
ignushi, can anyone tell me how to upgrade to 8.04 alpha from 7.10?16:21
ahmos!java16:21
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.16:21
tekteen!upgrade16:21
BluesKajtzd , open konq or any kde app and click on Help/about kde16:21
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes16:21
nosrednaekimignus » go to #ubuntu+116:21
ignusah ok16:22
ignusthanks16:22
Vedavox!dist-updrade16:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dist-updrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:22
Vedavox!dist-upgrade16:22
ploddertrappist: no, I was doing it on tty3, worked on X16:22
tzdBluesKaj: got it, thanks. Still on 3.5.8 :) Pheew ;)16:22
trappistplodder: ok, do the DISPLAY=:0 thing then16:22
ploddertrappist: well, sort of, it said: kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : media_decropt.desktop16:22
leroux!java16:22
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.16:22
unagithe file or folder smb://1000mhz/C/Kubuntu/Documents/Pictures/Camera/%3F does not exist......what does this mean when im trying to copy and paste a folder over the network?16:23
leroux!driver16:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:23
leroux!ati16:23
nosrednaekimunagi » where are you pateing to?16:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:23
unaginosrednaekim: do you mean what kind of pc?16:23
trappistunagi: no, that won't work.  but if it's a smb share, why not just mount the remote share?16:23
unagiwhat would that look like mount smb:blah/blah/ /media/smbshare?16:24
tekteenunagi: smbclient works for remote shares16:24
nosrednaekimunagi » no... I mean from what app to what app...16:24
unagii dont know you guys are losing me lol im in dolphin trying to copy a folder from my home to a remote machine16:25
tekteenok16:25
trappistunagi: more like sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //machine/share /mnt/point16:25
nosrednaekimunagi » huh, well, i've never done anything with samba16:25
tzdhmm while I'm at it... i get this error message when i try to empty my thrash bin: "unable to remove catalogue /home/.Trash-1000/files/johan/.gnupg." Can someone please help me?16:25
tekteenunagi: go into konqueror16:25
tekteenare you sending it to a linux machine?16:26
unagikonq is asking for a username and password but i dont believe there is one16:26
tekteenok16:26
tekteenare you using windows file sharing?16:26
unagiits a windows machine16:27
unagii can print off of it16:27
unagiand i can browse it with dolphin16:27
tekteenunagi: ok16:27
unagioh and apparently now i can browse with konq16:27
tekteenso what is the problem16:27
tekteen?16:27
unagii cant paste a folder16:28
tekteenok16:28
tekteenI know the problem16:28
unagiThe file or folder smb://1000mhz/C/Kubuntu/New Folder/Documents/Pictures/Camera/%3F does not exist.16:28
tekteenok16:28
trappistunagi: %3F?16:29
tekteenare you trying to move a folder?16:29
unagii have no idea16:29
unagiim trying to copy and paste a folder tekteen16:30
tekteenok16:30
tekteenfrom a kubuntu machine to a windows?16:30
unagiyes16:30
MrJigsawprince_jammys: ??16:30
prince_jammyshello16:30
tekteenhave you enabled writing on the windows machine?16:30
MrJigsawCan i PM? I need help fast :/16:31
unagii think i fixed it16:31
unagii dunno what it was but there was a folder named '?'16:31
prince_jammyswhat's going on? here is better .. i may have no clue about your problem16:31
MrJigsaw:|16:31
MrJigsawits mouting again..16:31
tekteengo to the windows machine16:31
unagiim only transfering at 6 mb per sec what gives16:31
prince_jammyswho's mounting?16:31
MrJigsawHow is it i get my harddrives name ?16:32
tekteenunagi: that is normal :/16:32
prince_jammysthe device?  /dev/xxx ?16:32
unagiwhats the point of a 100mb ethernet card then16:32
MrJigsawYes16:32
tekteenunagi: i don't know16:32
MrJigsawI just need a fast mount. i need to get music to my eksternal and off to party.. so kinda in a hurry :)16:32
tekteenthat is not the weakest link16:33
tekteenspeed = slowest device16:33
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: you can view all mounted devices by just typing "mount"16:33
MrJigsawit isent mounted yet..16:33
prince_jammysthen sudo fdisk -l16:33
MrJigsawthanks16:33
tekteenunagi: also divide 100 by 816:33
tekteenunagi: it is a 100Mbs card not a 100MBs card16:34
tekteenunagi: do you get it?16:35
unagii suppose16:35
unagithat crap always confuses me16:35
tekteenunagi: lol16:35
kaminixHow do I generate an UUID usable in KDE System Settings thingie for automount of a USB-drive?16:35
tekteenunagi: it is marketing. They do not explain the diff16:36
unagiblah marketing16:36
unagilol16:36
nosrednaekimkaminix » don't generate one... there is a unique accociated with every partition16:36
kaminixNot for my USB disk.16:36
tekteenAlso I have no idea why they now have 1Gb NICs16:37
nosrednaekimkaminix » I assure you, there is one16:37
tekteen:-D16:37
prince_jammys!UUID16:37
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)16:37
nosrednaekimthanks prince_jammys16:37
llutzno sudo needed for showing blkids16:38
prince_jammysnosrednaekim: np, thank ubotu :)16:38
tekteenubotu is smart16:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:38
tekteennm XD16:38
prince_jammysubotu anything16:38
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.16:38
jpatrickubotu lies16:39
ubotuMostly just statistics, but yeah.16:39
* nosrednaekim <3 ubotu16:40
nosrednaekimjpatrick » a lover of Mark Twain are you?16:40
jpatricknosrednaekim: nop..16:40
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nosrednaekim"there are three types of lies: White Lies, damn lies, and statistics"16:41
HTML-insaneLo peeps16:42
nosrednaekimhey HTML-insane16:43
tekteenhi16:43
HTML-insaneI just got Beryl for Feisty...16:43
nosrednaekimHTML-insane » doesn't fiesty have compiz-fusion?16:43
tekteenI don't think so16:43
nosrednaekim!info compiz-fusion (fiesty)16:43
ubotuPackage compiz-fusion does not exist in gutsy16:43
nosrednaekimah16:43
BluesKajHTML-insane, usually we greet each other in english ..not aim or gaim ot IM lingo :)16:44
HTML-insaneI don't know - I don't know the repositries for Fusion, and couldn't download the settings manager16:44
nosrednaekimHTML-insane » ah... well beryl works then16:44
HTML-insaneExactly.16:44
HTML-insaneThat, and Gutsy didn't like my laptop so I had to down-grade.16:44
HTML-insane(HP ze2000)16:44
tekteenI had the same prob16:45
tekteenI think hp went down hill in gutsy16:45
HTML-insaneYes, it was only AFTER I downloaded it that I saw the forums.16:45
tekteenI got it working16:45
tekteeneach part at a time :-)16:46
HTML-insaneWell, it's not that it crashed - it just didn't like the graphics card...16:46
HTML-insaneand no graphics card = no Compiz-fusion, I think.16:46
tekteenHTML-insane: mine did not like the card either16:47
tekteenI had to use safe graphics mode16:47
tekteenthen install the restricted drivers16:47
BluesKajati mobile graphics = no compiz , I'm afraid16:47
nosrednaekimnot so.16:47
SlimeyPeteI used compiz with an ATI mobile Radeon16:48
tekteensame16:48
tzdCan anyone help me with a problem when trying to extract a bz2 file via konsole please?16:48
HTML-insaneIn Linux, where there's a will there's a way...16:48
SlimeyPeteI just had to install AIGLX. Or XGL.... whichever one doesn't come with Kubuntu ;)16:48
tekteentzd: tar.bz2?16:48
tekteenor bz2?16:48
HTML-insanethat's why I want to get better at the nitty-gritty stuff like code and the command line16:48
tzdtekteen: tar.bz216:48
llutztzd tar xjf file.tar.bz216:49
tekteentar -xvjf TAR_FILE16:49
tzdtekteen: i type this: tar xzvf kalarm-1.5.2.kde3.tar.bz216:49
BluesKajSlimeyPete, were you able to run games as well ?16:49
tekteenj not z16:49
HTML-insaneSlimeyPete: I think it's XGL that doesn't come with it.16:49
llutztzd "z" = gzip16:49
SlimeyPeteBluesKaj: didn't try.16:49
tzdaaah!!!! thanks a lot guys! now i get it...gah :D16:49
SlimeyPetevideo worked fine though16:49
tekteentzd: learn to read the man pages :-D16:50
tzdso "j" is for bunzip2?16:50
HTML-insaneI've still got problems with my graphics card...16:50
tekteenyep16:50
nosrednaekimXGL does not work with games16:50
HTML-insaneSorry, webcam*16:50
HTML-insaneGod, I've got 101 things in my head at once...16:50
BluesKajyeah, SlimeyPete , I think that's the trade off with compiz on ati mobile or onboard graphics.16:50
tekteentzd: the man pages are you friend :-)16:51
nosrednaekimHTML-insane » hope you have more than 10116:51
nosrednaekim:)16:51
ploddertrappist: kbuildsycoca did work but did nothing to alleviate my problems. I also copied /etc/xdg/ from sane to stupid system but no change. Hm... need time to reflect methins16:51
HTML-insaneOK, OK, 101 concious thoughts.16:51
HTML-insane¬_¬16:51
tzdtekteen: hehe i know about those as well.. just had a beginners course in linux in my uni. Learned that "z" was the unzip parameter and i was so convinced that something else was the issue... One day I'll think rationally ,P16:51
dverzollaAnyone knows software to dvd authoring? for Linux...16:51
unagirm: cannot remove directory `Shared/': File exists what does this mean16:52
HTML-insaneHmm...16:52
llutzdverzolla: (q)dvdauthor, devede, mandvd, kmediafactory etc.pp16:52
tekteentzd: sometimes it is also fun to just wing it16:52
tekteentzd: one time I tried --bzip216:52
tekteenand it worked :-)16:52
HTML-insaneunagi: I think that means there's files inside it, in which case you'll have to use -r or --recursive.16:53
HTML-insaneI THINK.16:53
dverzollallutz: Has anyone where I can authoring via command line?16:53
llutzdverzolla: dvdauthor16:53
tzdtekteen: hehe I'll keep that in mind :D Sweet move though ;)16:53
nosrednaekimHTML-insane » correct :)16:53
dverzollallutz: Hmm... I will try. Thanks.16:53
linuxninja_Hi to all16:54
tekteentzd: the people who write these things want it to be easy16:54
unagii used -r HTML-insane =/16:54
tekteenlinuxninja_: AH! a ninja16:54
bassemi need PHP client for kubuntu16:55
tekteen!hi | linuxninja_16:55
ubotulinuxninja_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:55
linuxninja_more like a wanna be ninja when it comes to linux16:55
tekteenbassem: like PHP?16:55
tekteenbassem: you need an interpreter?16:55
kaminixHmm... I have ONLY specified UUID 137b1fde-475a-4c11-968b-4313eca863ff which according to blkid points to device /dev/sdb at the moment, but when I mount it via the KDE mount manager it keeps mounting /dev/sdc1 which is not even in the manager atm. Why?16:55
tekteenlinuxninja_: we have all been at that stage16:56
flipstarkaminix: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al16:56
tzdtekteen: ah yeah, that's something i've noticed. All the basic commands arre pretty easy :D Love the whole alias ideá although I'm to afraid to use it too much since I'll end up remembering my own alias instead of the original cmds which won't be any fun when working on a different *nix computer ;)16:56
nosrednaekimkaminix » are you mounting by UUID?16:56
linuxninja_I'm more like a thug right now16:56
flipstara thug ninja ?16:56
tekteentzd: that is why I do not use it16:56
bassemtekteen: look ... when i save files in .PHP format and try to open it using firefox ... it does nothing but open the source code again with Kate :S16:57
tekteenok16:57
kaminixnosrednaekim: I'm trying, since it's USB disk their /dev/name tend to change with each boot...; flipstar: It lists the same thing as blkid16:57
tzdtekteen: :)16:57
tekteenthe issue is that you do not have a web server running16:57
linuxninja_no a thug training to be a novice ninja16:57
tekteenbassem: ^16:57
bassemsorry but i cant get u :S16:58
bassemtekteen:16:58
tekteenbassem: what you need to do is run the php command16:58
nosrednaekimkaminix » huh... well mount by UUID has always worked for me.16:58
tekteenthe apache webserver does that16:58
HTML-insaneunagi (about your previous problem): Try using -r, and -f (--force). If that doesn't work, I'm stumped.16:59
tekteenI guess you need to download php16:59
tekteenthen use it to create a html file16:59
prince_jammysbassem: you need to install php and configure it so that php files get parsed and executed16:59
tekteenthen display iy16:59
tekteenit16:59
kaminixnosrednaekim: And if I change from automatic to ext3, it freaks out and ask me "'' does not seem to be a device and the option 'bind' has not been specified in the "Advanced" page."17:00
nosrednaekimkaminix » is the USB stick ext3?17:00
flipstarkaminix: may you could try mounting without the kde mount manager and see what happens17:00
bassemwill give it a try17:00
kaminixNot a USB-stick, USB-HDD, but yeah... it's ext3.17:00
kaminixflipstar: It mounts fine if I turn them on/off inside KDE.17:01
flipstarbut wrong device you said..maybe its the kde mount manager i mentioned ..17:02
kaminixNo, it's the KDE Mount Manager thingie in System Setting which mounts it wrong when I try to automatize it. If I just shut them on and off they'll mount fine.17:03
unagimy lord thats annoying -r -f still returns that17:03
bassemprince_jammys: how can i install php for kubuntu ?17:04
unagi!php17:04
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)17:04
prince_jammysbassem: the only way i know is to install it in conjunction with apache.  the above link directs you.   i don't know how to install it on its own17:05
HTML-insaneunagi: You've stumped my basic knowledge -.-17:06
prince_jammysbassem: you would then be running a server which would parse any php files that are stored in /var/www.  if you then browse to http://localhost,  you can view the html output of the files.17:06
prince_jammysbassem: if you do this, make sure you are only serving to localhost, unless you are serving your php on a network17:07
bassemprince_jammys: yea i will ... thanks alot17:08
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unagiwhenever i try to sudo rm -r -f /path/to/ folder i get 'cannot rm: file exists:' what is this17:12
teo-hi i want to ask something.. i have installed backtrack and and fix the boot from ubuntu grub.. and now i have only ubuntu and windows how to add the backtrack os to the list???17:13
flipstarunagi: is this on an mounted drive ?17:15
flipstarprobably ntfs ?17:15
nosrednaekimteo- » backtrack? never heard of it17:15
rickestunagi: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#emptydir17:16
teo-nosrednaekim it a linux edition.. i need to know on what partition is ti on hd0,2 hd0,017:18
teo-but i dont know how:S17:18
nosrednaekimteo- » is it on the first or third partition?17:19
kaminixWhat would cause a disc to have permission denied on a KDE automount?17:19
nosrednaekimteo- » it might be better to ask the backtrack people17:20
teo-ok thnx..17:20
nosrednaekimkaminix » if you don't have ti set to be mountable by all users17:20
llutzteo-: you should know, since you've installed it17:20
kaminixnosrednaekim: I haven't done any settings for it in KDE, is it in tune2fs?17:20
nosrednaekimkaminix » no.... in the mounconfig manager.... this is the same USB hard drive?17:21
teo-llutz it's on hd0,2 but i dont know how to configure the file menu.lst17:21
llutzteo-: did it write its bootloader to partition?17:21
kaminixnosrednaekim: Yup, one of them. Have two. I got the same error on two of my friends portably usb drives last week.17:21
nosrednaekimkaminix » yeah.. in the mount manager, set the drive to be able to  mountable by all users17:22
teo-llutz yes and i fix it.. with the ubuntu grub coz i want to use the boot from ubuntu..17:22
kaminixnosrednaekim: That mountconfig manager is the one in System Settings I was using earlier.17:22
llutzteo-: so it wrote to MBR, _not_ to partition17:22
nosrednaekimyes17:22
teo-llutz yes17:23
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llutzteo-: mount /dev/sda3, look into /media/sda3/boot/grub/menu.lst  and take the entry to your desired menu.lst17:25
harmentalhey guys....what does the kded process do??? It's been eating my resources down since my upgrade to kde 3.5.917:25
teo-ok17:25
nosrednaekimharmental » communications between knetworkmanager and KDE apps to alert them if you are online or not17:26
nosrednaekimharmental » perfectly fine to kill it17:27
harmentalnosrednaekim: is it a new feature of 3.5.9? i didnt have this problem unitl yesterday...also...how can i disable it at boot?17:28
nosrednaekimharmental » system settings->advanced->services17:29
nosrednaekimharmental » its been around fo a while17:29
petoi installed updates and my system is running veeeeeery slow now, whats wrong? can i fix it?17:31
nosrednaekimpeto » check whats using the most proccesing time with "top"17:32
petohow can i do that17:32
harmentalnosrednaekim: its not there...i guess that some program is triggering it then :o§17:32
petoperformance monitor?17:33
nosrednaekimpeto » open a konsole and run "top"17:33
nosrednaekimharmental » in system services?17:33
nosrednaekimah! its "service manager"17:34
petonosrednaekim what do you need to know17:34
nosrednaekimpeto » no.. konsole... the terminal application17:34
harmentalnosrednaekim: yeap17:35
petonosrednaekim i am looking at result already, but what do you need to know17:35
nosrednaekimpeto » whats the top process?17:35
petoXorg17:35
peto62%17:36
nosrednaekimpeto » are you running XGL?17:36
nosrednaekimyeah... you are..17:36
nosrednaekimhow did you install your nvidia drivers?17:36
petonosrednaekim i think so17:36
petonosrednaekim can i fix it?17:37
Cold_InzHi, I've got one question: Kubuntu is a KDE version as far as I know, does removing it mess things up, or ?17:37
nosrednaekimpeto » how did you install your nvidia drivers?17:37
nosrednaekimCold_Inz » like, for GNOME?17:38
Cold_Inzfor example17:38
petonosrednaekim restricted drivers17:38
nosrednaekimCold_Inz » nope, removing it should do a thing..17:38
nosrednaekimpeto » check if they are installed...17:39
nosrednaekimafter the update.. things can happem17:39
Cold_Inznosrednaekim: ok thank you17:39
nosrednaekim*shouldn't17:39
petonosrednaekim no, its not in use17:39
nosrednaekimpeto » enable it17:39
petonosrednaekim and there is one more problem, my adpet is not working proper17:40
nosrednaekimuhh whats it doing?17:40
vijay_hi17:43
nosrednaekimhey vijay_17:44
marek__hej17:44
o-doghi all17:44
o-dogi just downloaded an iconpack for my kde17:44
o-dogbut it says that the index.theme isn't valid17:44
o-dogwhat now?17:44
kubuntuI am new to kubuntu and I need to install alsa-driver 1.0.16 but I can only get a fix on alsa 1.0.14, what do I need to change to get the new version in synaptic?17:44
Daisuke_Laptopo-dog: get another one17:45
jussi01kubuntu: why d you need 1.06?17:45
vijay_whenever i open add/remove or adept fine error massage:-17:45
John232How do I mount a floppy?17:45
nosrednaekimkubuntu » you'll probably need to install .16 from source17:45
vijay_Will not save configuration.17:45
vijay_Configuration file "/home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc" not writable.17:45
Daisuke_Laptopkubuntu: you *need* 1.0.15, probably because of the new sound chipset.17:45
kubuntuotherwise I got no sound jussi0117:45
jussi01kubuntu: for intel hda?17:46
kubuntuI got hda-intel ICH817:46
jussi01!intelhda17:46
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:46
nosrednaekimvijay_ » run "rm /home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc"17:46
John232How do I mount a floppy?17:46
kubuntuand on previous stuff I couldn't get sound with 1.0.1517:46
vijay_ok17:47
nosrednaekim!floppy17:47
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone17:47
John232ty17:47
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: so do you know if hardy is actually going to use the newest alsa?17:48
Daisuke_Laptopbecause these problems are really irritating, and completely preventable17:48
nosrednaekimwhats the package name?17:48
nosrednaekim!into alsa-utils (hardy)17:48
nosrednaekim!info alsa-utils (hardy)17:49
o-dogwell, installed another pack and still not valid17:49
ubotualsa-utils (source: alsa-utils): ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.15-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 1828 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa lpia m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)17:49
Daisuke_Laptopoh thank $DEITY17:49
ibouis it possible to get itunes ?17:49
John232^X Exit17:50
John232i type ^X and it wont exit17:50
Pici^X is a way of saying ctrl-x17:50
Daisuke_Laptopthat's because you don't type ^X17:50
Daisuke_Laptopyes, ctrl-x17:50
John232ok17:51
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BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, which kde is the default in Hardy , 3.5.8 or .9  ?17:51
flipstar3.5.917:52
edulix__BluesKaj: what about KDE 4?17:53
BluesKaj3.5.9 is quite buggy...i'm sorry now that i installed it ...konq is especially hang and cpu hog-prone17:54
vijay_hellow nosrednaekim17:54
nosrednaekimyes vijay_ ?17:54
vijay_i did but again getting Will not save configuration.......17:54
BluesKajedulix__, tried it ... screwed up some of my fav apps17:55
nosrednaekimvijay_ » did it actually delete the file(any errors?)17:55
vijay_ya17:56
vijay_now the massage is..17:58
vijay_rm: cannot remove `/home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc': No such file or directory17:58
unagiwhenever i try to sudo rm -r -f /path/to/ folder i get 'cannot rm: file exists:' what is this17:58
navetzhow can i view fla videos without uploading them to a website?17:58
stdinMOTU Q&A Session in #ubuntu-classroom in a bit17:59
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o-doghm18:05
o-dogi got this other problem too18:05
o-dogwhen starting the pc my keyboard doesn't use all the keys in the login screen18:06
o-dogmeaning that some of them work, but not all18:06
o-dogi can login from console and it works fine18:06
rickestunagi: did the answers in the other channel not solve that problem?18:06
o-dogand in x it also works fine18:06
o-dogbut it bugs me to log in every single time from console18:06
GRayug18:06
GRayа18:06
GRayп18:06
o-dogso does anyone have any ideas where the bug might be?18:07
GRayрусский18:07
unagii wasnt aware that i got answers18:07
rickest[10:16:08]      rickest | unagi: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#emptydir18:08
rickestunagi: it was this channel, sorry :) and another guy was asking if it was an NTFS-mounted drive18:08
nosrednaekimvijay_ » try starting adept again I guess18:08
unagiim about to reformat18:09
unagii get nervous around this time18:09
vijay__ok18:09
unagi=)18:09
rickestunagi: it's basically a LOCALE problem. that link (and the item it links to) explains18:09
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unagithe 'did i forget to back up anything' stage18:09
mhollisjrwhat's a decent root, home split? I have 30gb for root and 70gb for home? does that sound reasonable?18:09
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mhollisjrroot being / not /root18:09
tekteenmhollisjr: I have a 10 GB /18:10
mhollisjrwell I'm new to the distro and never split off home before this install, so I never paid that much attention to what all goes there, do you see me running into any problems with a split like that?18:11
tekteenmhollisjr: I would lower it to 20GB at most18:11
tekteennope18:11
rickestmhollisjr: do you really even need to split it up? on work machines with AIX and SunOS that will last for 8-10 years that makes sense but for home distros I'm not sure it's worth the trouble18:11
jussi01!home18:11
ubotuYour home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For mounting your home folder on a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome18:11
tekteenyou would not have an issue18:11
vijay__hey now the massage is.. "read only mode: need root privlilegs..." ........18:11
tekteenvijay__: use sudo18:12
mhollisjrwell normally I'd agree, however being new to the distro I'm sure to mess things up a bit beyond my capabilities, it's more of a cover your butt move18:12
o-dogwhat was the command to edit manually all the xconfs in console?18:12
kubuntuI want to use a simple console like in gnome, what do I need to install for it ?18:12
tekteenkubuntu: use konsole18:13
mhollisjrhow big of a difference would packaging be between versions? for example would a feisty package work on gutsy, or a gutsy on hardy?18:14
tekteenmhollisjr: it PROBABLY work18:14
tekteenmhollisjr: but if it doesn't it will mess it up18:15
mhollisjrin most cases wouldn't cause any harm outside the package?18:15
mhollisjrwouldn't = would it18:15
tekteenyes. BUT I would NOT do it18:15
damcan anyone tell me why every time I watch a streamed vid it's kindda rigid ?18:16
AndreSTCis there a way to check processor core temperature?18:16
flipstarlm_sensors can do that18:16
llutzlmsensors18:16
AndreSTCok18:17
mhollisjr-nod- well reason I'm asking is I have hardy (I would ask there, but I get better answers here, so forget I said that) and wine 0.9.55 is broken on it 0.9.56 seems to be available for gutsy, and I'm just wondering if it would be a temporary fix18:17
jpatrick!info yakuake > kubuntu18:18
kubuntutekteen: I know I can use that, but what do I need to install to have the one from gnome ?18:18
mhollisjrYakauke is the only way to go ^^18:18
nosrednaekimvijay__ » run it with kdesudo18:19
tekteenkubuntu: yakuake is good18:19
kubuntuowkey, I'll check it out18:19
tekteenkubuntu: the gnome terminal is gnome-terminal (duh)18:19
tekteenkubuntu: but it will install a few billion libraries18:20
kubuntuI see hmm18:20
kubuntuwell is there another nice terminal thats a simple one ?18:21
tekteenI do not understand simple. what do you not like about konsole?18:22
nosrednaekimxterm18:22
giuseppehi, anyone use superkaramba?18:22
mhollisjrI know it's been mentioned already, but I really do speak highly of Yakuake, it's soo simply to get to when you need it18:22
* tekteen forgot about xtemr18:22
rickestkubuntu: mrxvt18:22
mhollisjrsimple18:22
biosshello18:22
tekteen!hi| bioss18:22
ubotubioss: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:22
kubuntuk18:23
biossits my first time in kubuntu on my laptop18:23
giuseppeso, does anyone know superkaramba?18:23
biossdoes anybody know how to get my power boton to function with kubuntu on a hp dv60018:24
tekteenbioss: dv6000?18:24
nosrednaekimbioss » what do you want the power button to do?18:24
biosssince i installed kubuntu in my laptop the power boton aint working and no sound is coming out of the integrated speakears but it works fine with headsets18:26
kubuntudamned I can't get my audio to work :s18:28
kubuntuI followed this guid:18:28
kubuntuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto18:28
kubuntuand then at line: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec18:28
kubuntuthe thing is that I don't have card018:28
kubuntuI got a file named cards18:28
kubuntubut that gives:18:28
nosrednaekim!HDA Intel | bioss18:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:29
kubuntukubuntu@kubuntu-laptop:/proc/asound$ cat /proc/asound/cards18:29
kubuntu--- no soundcards ---18:29
nosrednaekim!HDA | bioss18:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:29
nosrednaekim!IntelHDA | bioss18:29
ubotubioss: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto18:29
kubuntuI already followed that ... <_<18:29
nosrednaekimkubuntu » that was for bioss18:29
biossdoes this works for gutsy?18:30
kubuntuah18:30
biossthe kernel18:30
biossthe other thing is with the new linux generic img that seem to corrupt the system has anyone had this?18:32
kubuntuhmm I got a lot of those errors:18:33
kubuntu[   30.204523] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages18:33
kubuntu[   30.204552] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_lib_ioct18:33
kubuntusomeone any idea how to solve that ?18:33
mhollisjrhmph ok what's the proper package to install to use compiz? assuming that it was not enabled by default and that I do have the required hardware18:35
flipstar!compiz | mhollisjr18:35
ubotumhollisjr: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:35
biossinstall beryl18:35
jussi01!beryl18:35
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz18:35
mhollisjr-chuckle-18:35
mhollisjrthanks Ubotu18:35
jussi01!thanks18:35
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)18:35
biossi know but seems his comp dsnt cards18:36
mhollisjrer thanks flipstar! lol18:36
* jussi01 coughs...18:36
mhollisjrand jussi01 ^^18:36
nosrednaekimbioss » the new kernel doesn't work?18:37
John232how do you untar?18:37
John232tar **** filename?18:37
flipstartar -xf <file>18:37
John232the **** is what i dont know18:37
John232ok18:38
rickestJohn232: tar xvf name-of-tar.tar18:38
ubuntuhi all18:38
John232ok18:38
rickestJohn232: or if it's a .tgz, tar xzvf name-of-tar.tgz18:38
John232ok18:38
rickestJohn232: finally, if it's a bz2, tar jxvf name-of-tar.bz218:38
John232k18:38
ubuntusorry, i am not well experienced in english cause I live in russia... I have one small problem could someone help me?18:38
stdinrickest: tar will detect if it;s plain, gzipped or bzipped, just -xf will do18:38
rickeststdin: super18:39
SlimeyPete!ru18:39
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:39
ubuntu:D18:39
magarellisalve a tutti18:41
mhollisjrer hmm18:41
mhollisjr!compiz18:41
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:41
mhollisjrthat information refers to feisty, I'm not using feisty18:42
mhollisjrwould it still be compatible?18:42
magarelliqualcuno di voi sa dirmi il percorso dove vengono messi i programmi in kubuntu?18:42
stdin!it18:42
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!18:42
magarellisorry18:42
stdinmhollisjr: "This guide shows how to get it running on Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) as well as Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy). " < read it18:42
mhollisjryeah I can follow the basics, but the repos arn't available18:43
mhollisjrwell I'll just hope that the packages are still there18:43
stdin"If you're on Feisty, we need to add a third party repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list. (Not needed on Gutsy) "18:43
stdinread it again?18:43
mhollisjrer ><18:43
* mhollisjr is blind18:43
mhollisjrthank you ><18:43
dragonhi all18:44
jussi01hi dragon18:45
dragonhow are u all18:45
mhollisjrhmm18:45
mhollisjrok following the directions it still crashes X, I'll see what the channel hsa to say18:46
mhollisjr!compiz18:46
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:46
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jussi01dragon: how can we help?18:46
dragonyes18:46
dragoni maked ablog about ubuntu helping the arab people to know ubuntu good18:46
dragoni'd like to show u18:47
dragonit18:47
jussi01dragon: that sounds more appropriate for #kubuntu-offtopic18:47
stdinor #ubuntu-sa18:47
BluesKajwhat's the dns look up command again ?18:47
dragonhttp://arabicubuntusupport.wordpress.com/18:47
dragonthis is my site18:47
dragonand may do one for kubuntu18:48
SlimeyPeteBluesKaj: dig?18:48
flipstarBluesKaj: just ping it18:48
dragoni'd like to know your opnion18:48
stdindragon: #ubuntu-sa is the arabic local/language channel, you'll get more readers in there18:48
jussi01dragon: as we said, ask in #ubuntu-sa or #kubuntu-offtopic :)18:48
dragonthanks18:48
flipstardig is probably more detailled18:48
stdinBluesKaj: host18:49
BluesKajusing dig but in this case it doesn't work18:50
damcan anyone help me? when I'm viewing a vid on youtube for example it starts laging even if it's completly loaded and of good quality18:51
biossdoes anyone know how to fixed a hp dv6000 sound, with headset it works find but the internal speakears dosnt work18:52
dragonhey no one replay at me there18:52
dragonin the arabic chat18:53
dragonthey may sleeping18:53
tekteenbioss: my speakers work fine18:53
tekteenbioss: I have a dv6604nr18:53
biosstekteen out of the box?18:53
biossdo you have a hda intel sound card18:54
tekteenbioss: well... the speakers did not shut off when I plugged in a head set18:54
tekteenyep18:54
biossthats normal18:54
chartoinhi guys18:55
tekteenwait18:55
chartoinI need help today18:55
BluesKajbioss, check alsamixer in the konsole make sure you have your spkrs unmuted18:55
biosscheking18:55
chartoinI have been trying for a long time to get compiz working on my kubuntu18:55
chartoinPlease help me get it working18:55
BluesKajok BBL, errands to do18:55
tekteenbioss: try this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HP_Pavillion_dv6000_(dv6604nr)18:56
biossyes everithyng is fine in the alsa18:56
flipstarchartoin: what the problem ? btw --> #compiz-fusion18:57
jussi01chartoin: which gfx card?18:57
biosslooks promising doit right kknow18:57
chartoinI have ATI radeon express 20018:58
chartoinits an onboard graphics card18:58
jussi01ouch18:58
chartoinand my amarok doesnst start18:58
SlimeyPetemy radeon 300m runs compiz reasonably well18:58
SlimeyPetebut it requires xgl.18:59
Seren__can anyone tell me how do you disable kwallet manager ?18:59
Seren__the constant pop up are annoying18:59
chartoinmy xgl session doesn't start18:59
biossrebooting the machine be back in a couple of minutes19:02
kubuntuwow damn after  monts I got finally sound \o/19:11
kubuntubtw, whats a good program to watch movies ?19:11
tekteenkubuntu: kaffiene19:11
Oloughlin75vlc kubuntu19:11
tekteenit is the default19:11
flipstar(g)mplayer rocks19:12
mhollisjris there an ubuntu equivilancy of windows' audio "Default Input Device"19:13
mhollisjrand where would I set it?19:13
band4lif1d19:15
mhollisjrI don't mind messing with config files if I know which one I'm looking for19:15
L3ttuc3i've got kde installed from kubuntu-desktop, however, having both that and gnome are giving me some headaches: each time i eject a cd/dvd from my drive under gnome, i get an error message from kio_media_mounthelped telling me: unmounting failed due to following error: device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by hal. presumably that is because it is already being handled by gnome19:18
L3ttuc3-mount... how do i prevent conflicts between the two short of unistalling? and how do i preserver functionality in kde?19:18
MartinCleaverI am partitioning: what's a reasonable amount for an kubuntu operating system install, without user data.19:21
MartinCleaver?19:21
chartoinIt seems that my graphics card is not installed properly19:21
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kubuntuhhow to ask stuff to the boot? I want to install compiz but it doesn't work with just compiz in synaptic19:21
flipstarMartinCleaver: 5gb should be enough19:21
ashais_Umm... can someone explain me how to use an .msi installer with Cadega ?19:21
Oloughlin75kubuntu: run "compiz --replace"19:22
MartinCleaverGreat, thanks flipstar19:22
Oloughlin75kubuntu: run "kwin --replace" if compiz is messed up19:22
kubuntuk19:23
kubuntudamned19:27
kubuntustuffs are flipping :/19:27
Oloughlin75kubuntu: run "kwin --replace" if compiz is messed up19:30
chartoincan someone help me config my gfx card19:31
Oloughlin75chartoin: whats wrong with it?19:31
chartoinI get this error when i use flgrxinfo19:31
chartoinhold on19:32
chartoinI'll pastebin the output19:32
Oloughlin75ok19:32
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chartoinhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56983/19:33
chartointhere you go19:33
flipstarsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx19:34
Oloughlin75look like libgl isnt installed19:34
chartoinI was following this guide btw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI19:34
chartoinhow do I install it?19:34
Oloughlin75chartoin: do what flipstar said19:34
chartoinif its helpful, amarok doen;t start and ati catalyst control doesn't start19:34
flipstaropen adept and type nvidia-glx19:34
chartoinI have ati card19:35
chartoinati radeon xpress 20019:35
martijn81what aret the differences between normal, server and oem install?19:35
martijn81-t19:35
kaminixHow do I check if there are any drivers available for my laptop's built-in speakers?19:35
Oloughlin75!audio19:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:35
chartoinis it ok to install nvidia drivers?19:35
Oloughlin75!find ati19:35
ubotuFound: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gutenprint, foomatic-db-hpijs (and 147 others)19:35
jpatrickmartijn81: oem is for companies, server -> base (no gui)19:36
Marbugwhats a good program for msn? where you have a lot of options, have cam and chat even when others are offline19:36
martijn81kaminix: afaik it works out of the box or it doesn't, but don't pin this on me19:36
Oloughlin75Marbug: amsn is supposed to have most of msn messenger's features, iv never used it though19:37
martijn81Marbug: kopete or amsn are good19:37
martijn81i use kopete19:37
martijn81because it is the default19:37
chartoinso what about ati?19:38
chartoinwhat should I do about it19:38
MarbugI'm also using kopette but some stuff doesn't work, and when people are offline it doesn't send anything or do I need to install addons ?19:38
kaminixmartijn81: Sort of what I thought. Quite strange though, one would think the easiest way to do built-in speakers for a laptop would be to make it a "this or that" option in the hardware. :s Don't get it why I would need drivers for speakers really. :p19:38
* Signil is away: Gone away for now.19:38
stdin!away > Signil19:40
Oloughlin75kaminix: the driver is what interacts with the hardware19:41
chartoinOloughlin75. can you help me out?19:42
Oloughlin75chartoin: ive never used ATI card before, try just going into system settings -> advanced tab, and enabling the restriced dirver. its a lot easier than installing everything by hand19:43
chartoinwhat option do I chose in advanced tab19:44
martijn81chartoin: it is ok to install them if you need them19:48
martijn81it's your choise19:48
skyline05so anyone here a regular ubuntu user?19:51
jpatrickskyline05: regular?19:52
skyline05someone that knows ubuntu better than I do19:52
skyline05and I'm new to it19:52
flipstarubuntu in #ubuntu this here is kubuntu19:53
tekteenskyline05: we are kubuntu users19:53
skyline05ok so whats the channel for ubuntu 7.10?19:53
tekteen#ubuntu19:53
skyline05thanks19:53
bigbhi, which is the best way to share files between 2 computers with ubuntu?19:55
Oloughlin75how do i extract a passworded rar?19:55
rickestbigb: by share to you mean xfer or access one copy from both computers?19:55
prince_jammysOloughlin75: have you installed "unrar"?19:56
jpatrick!info rsync | bigb19:56
ubotubigb: rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB19:56
jpatrick!info sshfs | bigd19:56
ubotubigd: sshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB19:56
Oloughlin75prince_jammys: no, ark or tar wont do it?19:56
prince_jammysOloughlin75: if so, you can use that command to extract it (man unrar for details, i don't remember).  But even with unrar installed i can't get ark to do it, so i use file-roller19:57
stdinOloughlin75: rar is a non-free format, it can't be included by default so you have to install it your self19:57
rickestOloughlin75: unrar xp[password] file.rar19:57
bigbrickest: both19:58
jpatrickbigb: ssh is your friend :D19:59
flipstarOloughlin75: if you install unrar ark probably can handle .rar's19:59
jpatrick!ssh | bigb19:59
ubotubigb: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/19:59
Oloughlin75flipstar: itll extract rar that dont have a password19:59
bigbthanks a lot for your help20:00
jpatrickbigb: you're more than welcome20:00
flipstarOloughlin75: hm file-roller definitive can handle with password protected .rar's else you could try the command line version20:01
Oloughlin75flipstar: unrar is working for me20:01
Oloughlin75or not20:01
Oloughlin75woops wrong pas20:02
dotzzz!paste20:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:03
rickestbigb: as others have said, scp or rsync to xfer (most prefer 'rsync -e ssh'), or sshfs to mount a remote filesystem over ssh20:03
npurcifulhey guys i have a problem, this morning when i wokeup my computer did have sound, I pipe the sound though my card out digital coax, i dont have stereo sound mp3 videos and such, but i do have s/pdif it still works20:03
MartinCleaverDumb question, I know, how much in GB is 55053104 1k blocks?20:04
MartinCleaverI ask because I have20:04
MartinCleaver/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-CentosOS20:04
MartinCleaver                      99190192  55053228  39016964  59% /20:04
MartinCleaverAnd I want to make sure that the 5GB that flipstar mentioned is reasonable given my current usage20:04
stdinMartinCleaver: use "df -h" to get human readable output20:06
MartinCleavergreat. thanks. Shows I learnt unix 12 years ago before there was a -h (or that I never read the man page)20:07
MartinCleaver/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-CentosOS20:08
MartinCleaver                       95G   53G   38G  59% /20:08
* MartinCleaver wonders how the hell he's using 53GB on the OS partition20:08
flipstarMartinCleaver: filelight is very good to discover such things20:09
MartinCleaverthx20:11
nosrednaekimwhats that KDE program to see your file usage graphically?20:15
MartinCleaverfilelight?20:16
nosrednaekimsounds good20:16
* MartinCleaver asked the same q about 10 mins ago20:17
nosrednaekim30 gig home DIR and i'm not sure whats using it all20:17
SlimeyPetewhy not just use "du -hs ~/*"?20:17
* nosrednaekim looks sheepish20:18
* stdin prefers "du -s ~/*|sort -rnk 1,1|head" ;)20:19
lod__airwhat hapened with hardy alfa 520:19
lod__airwasn't it sheduled for yesturday20:20
SlimeyPetestdin: ooo-ooo-oooh get you with the shell-fu ;)20:20
nosrednaekimlod__air » yep.... too many problems I think.20:20
mhollisjrhow do you install a manually downloaded deb?20:20
jussi01mhollisjr: double click20:20
lod__airdpkg -i <package>20:20
SlimeyPete sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb20:20
mhollisjrer heh I suppose it would eb that simple ^^20:20
mhollisjrty20:20
nosrednaekimmhollisjr » use gdebi20:20
nosrednaekimliek anything in Linux, there are million different ways :)20:21
lod__airand that's the beuty of it20:21
nosrednaekimyup20:22
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JontyI'm getting a segfault with apt just as it tries to read the database20:23
Jontyhow can I resolve this?20:23
nosrednaekimJonty » whats the exact error?20:23
jpatrick!aptfix20:23
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:23
jpatricktry that20:23
lod__airmy usplash isn't displaying.. i've tried setting different 'vga=' in grub's menu.list.. but still no usplash.. and i'm laptop user.. can someone help please?20:24
nosrednaekim!splash20:24
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.20:24
nosrednaekimblah20:24
lod__airnot that splash20:24
nosrednaekim!usplash20:24
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork20:24
lod__airthe usplash...20:24
JontyIt's still segfaulting. The error is: Reading package lists... Done Segmentation fault (core dumped)20:24
lod__airi've tried this..20:24
nosrednaekimlod__air » did it ever work?20:25
rickestanyone know how to turn OFF the shutdown splash? I like to see the status of services as they go down20:25
jpatrickJonty: ouch20:25
lod__airyes whit the live cd, and if I plug externel mon. durring boot20:25
lod__airhit TAB20:25
nosrednaekimrickest » otherwise its black?20:25
rickestnosrednaekim: yes, doesn't show "text" mode20:25
nosrednaekimsorry.... lod__air^^20:25
jpatrickrickest: remove "splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst20:26
lod__airthe Segmentation fault i've notised is gone when I perform fsck20:26
jpatrickrickest: but that removes it from boot up too20:26
rickestjpatrick: I have done that and it works for startup but not shutdown20:26
jpatrickrickest: ermm, no idea then :(20:26
rickestjpatrick: np, thanks20:26
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mhollisjrok how can I prevent a package from being updated20:27
mhollisjrat least temporarily20:27
jpatrick!pinning20:27
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto20:27
jpatrickmhollisjr: ^20:27
mhollisjrthakn you20:27
rickestmhollisjr: echo <pkg> hold | dpkg --set-selections20:28
JontyOk: how do I go about reinstalling apt?20:28
flipstarneed to be sudo dpkg --set-selections20:28
nosrednaekimJonty » does dpkg work?20:28
JontyI assume /var/lib/dpkg/available is supposed to have stuff in it, right?20:28
nosrednaekimJonty » did you search the forums for similar issues?20:29
lod__airthe thing I don't understand is why the usplash is displayed on the externel mon. but not the primary20:29
Jontynosrednaekim: yes, none of the fixes worked or they had different problems20:29
nosrednaekimlod__air » is the screen blank during boot or is there text20:29
nosrednaekimJonty » does aptitude work?20:29
lod__airit displayes Starting up.. and after that goes blank20:29
lod__airand goes on when gdm/kdm starts up20:30
Jontynosrednaekim: I'm tryingdpkg20:30
lod__airi just tiped usplash in konsole20:30
nosrednaekimlod__air » its probably redirecting the output to the external monitor port, and only comes to its senses when kdm starts20:30
Jontynosrednaekim: oh hey it works20:30
lod__airand there was blank screan20:30
Jontyodd20:30
nosrednaekimJonty » apt0tude works?20:30
nosrednaekim*aptitude20:31
Jontyit segfaults as it builds the dependancy tree. no, dpkg20:31
nosrednaekimaptitude crashes too?20:31
JontyI'm assuming it's because I, um, deleted available without a backup20:31
nosrednaekimoh......no........20:31
Jontyso20:31
tribaldataHi there, anyone good with command line?? I just added a new HDD to my server but i cannot find how to make one big partition and mount it correctly... anyone could help me  ?20:31
Jontyhow do I go about reinstalling :)20:31
lod__airis there any option to stop the redirect20:32
nosrednaekimJonty » yeah.......20:32
nosrednaekimtribaldata » read up on the commands fdisk, mkfs and mount20:32
tribaldatanosrednaekim: cheers will do :) see ya later20:33
MartinCleavertribaldata: you could use LVM20:33
BluesKajnosrednaekim, you running hardy ?20:33
nosrednaekimJonty » back up your home DIR.20:33
nosrednaekimBluesKaj » nope... not yet20:33
tribaldataMartinCleaver: LVM in console ?20:33
BluesKajok20:33
Jontynosrednaekim: is it possible to reinstall apt-get and fix it, or should I just reinstall ubuntu? I've been looking for an excuse to install ubuntu studio :)20:33
nosrednaekimwhen it hits beta, I probably will20:33
Jontynosrednaekim: it's on a separate partition20:33
MartinCleavergoogle LVM - its a flexible partitioning system20:34
nosrednaekimJonty » pfft, then reinstall :)20:34
MartinCleaveron which I am no expert20:34
Jontynosrednaekim: smashing20:34
tribaldataMartinCleaver: i'm already in it checking the help file seem nice i'll try that also thanks guys20:34
BluesKajheh, seems gutsy is in bets , all the crashes I'm having...prolly kde 3.5.9 bugs20:34
BluesKajbeta20:34
nosrednaekimJonty » yeah.. you definately don't want to remove that file.20:34
nosrednaekimBluesKaj » hrm.. I never update KDE20:35
lod__airwell i gues there's nothing else to do, but to report my problem via bug20:35
lod__airin launchpad20:35
nosrednaekimlod__air » yeah... I guess. I don't know how to fix that20:35
Jontynosrednaekim: ok. It was a fix on a forum somewhere. Silly poster. I should have backed up, though, I think there was an ok fix later on :(20:35
nosrednaekimyeah.... in the future, be careful what you do in regards to apt and dpkg...mostly anything else is recoverable..20:36
jon__всем привет20:36
jpatrick!ru > jon__20:36
lod__airпривет20:37
jpatrick!ru20:37
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:37
jon__как настроить kopete чтобы он нормально с аськой работал? У меня отображаются пустые группы и ни одного контакта ,(20:37
mhollisjris it normal for auto to scale from no sound at 50% to full sound at 100%?20:38
tribaldatathanks guys i figured it out i got it working via webmin when i doubt there always back doors :)20:38
tribaldatalol20:38
mhollisjrI think I'm missing a sound layer volume control somewhere20:38
mhollisjrauto = audio20:38
arrrghhhhey all, i'm tryin to get my vpn to work.  looks like i finally got it connected, now how do i tunnel traffic over it?  i have a new ppp0 connection with an IP address issued from my office, and my eth0 connection with an ip from my router.  the traffic is still going over eth0.20:41
rakany0 guyz, how come kubuntu repository software is not up-to-date?20:41
arrrghhhrakan, it's up to date for stable stuff.20:41
rakanfirefox .12 version aint there20:42
Dragnslcrrakan- is there some specific package that you think isn't up to date?20:42
DragnslcrMine says 2.0.0.1220:42
dewet_Can someone help me inslalling Wine on Kubuntu20:42
rakanyup, firefox for example is 2.0.0.620:42
DragnslcrAre you running 7.10?20:42
arrrghhhrakan, yea, they take a while to catchup.  if you want the newest versions of everything install from the manufacturer.20:42
Dragnslcr!info firefox20:43
BauldrickI can't get Ktorrent to download over 5kb - I open the port on router , do i have to set iptables ?20:43
rakanyea i am on gutsy20:43
ubotufirefox (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.12+2nobinonly+2-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8973 kB, installed size 26052 kB20:43
DragnslcrIf 2.0.0.12 isn't available for you, it's on your end20:43
rakani updated the repo just an hour ago and then installed firefox20:43
DragnslcrMake sure you've done an update20:43
rakanthat's wierd20:43
dewet_Can someone help me inslalling Wine on Kubuntu20:44
Dragnslcr!wine20:44
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.20:44
Lynouredewet_: what point are you stuck at?20:44
arrrghhhBauldrick, yea you have to configure iptables (i use firestarter) and ensure your ISP doesn't block those ports or place you behind a NAT.20:44
BluesKajdewet_, use adept20:44
rakandragnslcr: how did u manage to get the most updated version?20:44
dewet_Did all the thing that suppose to but gives an 404 Error20:44
Dragnslcrdewet_- 0.9.47 is in the repository?20:44
DragnslcrEr20:44
Dragnslcrdewet_- 0.9.47 is in the repository20:44
SlimeyPeteI have 2.0.0.12 but I've never deliberately updated.20:44
SlimeyPeteJust installed from the repo.20:45
Dragnslcrrakan- through adept_updater20:45
arrrghhhrakan, 2.0.0.12 is in the repos... make sure yours are updated.20:45
arrrghhhi just checked in adept, the version in the repos is 2.0.0.1220:45
dewet_?20:45
rakanarrrghhh: i am telling u i just updated my repo20:45
Dragnslcrrakan- Do Fetch Updates in Adept, or sudo apt-get update in a shell20:45
arrrghhhrakan, i'm telling you what i have in my repos.20:45
rakani think i should do that20:45
rakanok thanks20:46
Bauldrickarrrghhh: ta, and iptables resets every reboot, yes?20:46
arrrghhhBauldrick, i don't know.  i use firestarter.20:46
odinsbaneAnybody having pleasureable experiences with kde4 yet?20:46
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rakanis wine in repo up to date too?20:47
arrrghhhpleasureable?  meh.  it's pretty, but a lot isn't ready.  they're very open about it at least.20:47
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Dragnslcrrakan- it's at 0.9.47. Dunno if that's the latest20:47
nosrednaekimodinsbane » I like it20:47
arrrghhhrakan, the repos are up-to-date... as up to date as the repos are going to be.  they only add things in there as they can, and are tested as stable.20:47
BluesKajlatest isn't necessarily best20:47
mhollisjrlatest is 0.9.56, but for hardy it's at 0.9.55 and will not work on hardy with 0.9.5520:47
mhollisjrand there's no 0.9.56 package yet20:48
arrrghhhexactly20:48
odinsbaneK I think Ill uninstall it and try again.20:48
arrrghhhthat's why the repo's aren't always up-to-date in the sense that they carry the absolute newest version avaliable.20:48
DragnslcrI don't think KDE4 is supposed to be ready for general usage until 4.120:48
MarbugI added system guard to my panel, but I ccidently removed CPU and Memory from it, how can I add them beck, or even more ?20:49
dewet_If I do Everything in the konsole, It did show in the Adept Manager but now there's nothing of Wine Anymore20:49
dewet_Can u help me with that20:50
huntekeI've recently bought an intel core 2 duo comp.  Since it's 64 bit, I'd like to install the 64 bit version of kubuntu.  However, all I see for download is PC intel x86, and 64-bit amd64.  Is there something I'm missing?20:50
arrrghhhDragnslcr, the reason it's not ready is the backends aren't done.  phonon, plasma, etc.20:50
nosrednaekimhunteke » amd64 will work with core2duos20:50
nosrednaekimhunteke » Intel "stole" the AMD instruction set20:50
arrrghhhhunteke, he's right, but i'd stick to x86.  unless y ou want to deal with flash problems.20:50
dewet_If I do Everything in the konsole, It did show in the Adept Manager but now there's nothing of Wine Anymore20:51
mhollisjrhunteke: I asked the same question yesterday I can guarentee AMD64 is the correct version, as I'm running it now20:51
Lynouredewet_: Do I understand this right: you want to install it from the command-line and need help getting started with the installation?20:51
huntekeyikers, okay thanks20:51
dewet_Yes because there is nothing in Adept M20:51
huntekeso 64 is correct, intel stole the instruction set, (bastards!), but no flash.20:51
Lynouredewet_: if so,   sudo aptitude install wine20:51
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huntekethanks nosrednaekim, arrrghhh, and mhollisjr20:51
huntekeis flash the only "major" app that I'll be missing?20:52
nosrednaekimhunteke » there is flash... I have flash20:52
bertvdphi, kubuntu is doing some strange stuff, when I update this clean installation it wants to upgrade to a new version, which new version ? alpha 4?20:52
huntekeif so I can totally deal with that.20:52
Lynouredewet_: if that fails, let me know what error you got, and pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list20:52
nosrednaekimbertvdp » what version are you running currently?20:52
huntekenosrednaekim: then why does arrrghhh claim to have flash problems?20:52
bertvdpnosrednaekim: 7.1020:52
nosrednaekimhunteke » I didn't say there might not be PROBLEMS....but I got it working :)20:53
huntekehaha, okay20:53
dewet_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)20:53
dewet_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?20:53
mhollisjrugh I want to reinstall down to 7.10 but I don't want to try to get my usb stick bootable agian ><20:53
nosrednaekim!apt-fix20:53
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:53
huntekenosrednaekim: then I suppose I'll have to mucking.  Since you've done the research recently, can you point me to any helpful websites/forums/email archives?20:54
arrrghhhhunteke, flash works.  it's just difficult.  i had to run a 32-bit browser.20:54
dewet_That is The Error I'm Getting20:54
arrrghhhthere's no 64-bit flash.20:54
bertvdpnosrednaekim: I'm on kubuntu 7.10 (amd64 but I tried i386 first and it had the same problem)20:54
nosrednaekimhunteke » actually, all I did was run "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"20:54
nosrednaekimbertvdp » and its telling you there is an update to alpha 4?20:55
arrrghhhbertvdp, that's a glitch in adept.  once you update adept, it'll go away.20:55
huntekearrrghhh: okay, and that's no big deal, since the main reason for 64 bit is memory addressing over what, 2Gigs?  I hope my browser doesn't /that/ much memory!20:55
nosrednaekimhunteke » 3.5 gigs20:55
arrrghhhhunteke, the x86 version will handle the same amount of memory.20:55
BluesKajbertvdp, are you using konq web browser or firefox...konq has probs with flash'20:55
dewet_The  sudo apt-get update worked now20:56
odinsbaneSo when I use kynaptic I save a copy of the .deb file.  No I have removed some software do I still have the .deb copy?20:56
dewet_What must I do now20:56
mhollisjrhunteke: 64 bit will only start complaining at 4gb at which you'll drop to 3.5ish20:56
nosrednaekimodinsbane » possibly.... itdbe in /var/cache/apt/archives20:56
huntekemhollisjr: excellent20:56
coggzhi all,20:56
huntekeso this sounds like it will be fairly painless, modulo 'sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree'  :-)20:56
Oloughlin7564 bit handles a lot motr than 4gb20:57
Dragnslcrmhollisjr- you mean 32-bit20:57
nosrednaekimhunteke » if it works :)20:57
bertvdpnosrednaekim, when I upgrade it stops in the middle of it with an error (not doing the update in the right order but I just did the update using a konsole then), and then claims there is a new version (don't know what it is)20:57
huntekelol20:57
huntekeI'm not afraid of mucking about20:57
nosrednaekimbertvdp » ah..ok, well don't get the newest version20:57
arrrghhhbertvdp, read what i said.  update adept.20:57
mhollisjrDragnslcr: er yeah 32 bit20:57
Dragnslcrbertvdp- it's a known issue with Adept when 7.10 was released. Just ignore it20:57
huntekewas looking for some tips, and "OMG DON'T DO THAT!".  Didn't get either, so I'm golden, and thanks for the amd64 iso pointer20:57
huntekethanks for all the help.20:58
bertvdpokey, thanks nosrednaekim arrrghhh and Dragnslcr20:58
Dragnslcrhunteke- if you have less than 4 GB of memory, just use 32-bit20:58
Oloughlin75hunteke: theres nothing you CANT do... everything can be fixed ;)20:58
DragnslcrNot all software has working 64-bit versions yet20:58
dewet_The  sudo apt-get update worked now20:58
dewet_The  sudo apt-get update worked now20:58
dewet_What must I do now20:58
odinsbaneHey thanks for the info.20:58
lod__airapt-get upgrade20:58
huntekeactually, I bought my new comp with 2 gigs intending to upgrade to 420:58
huntekecan I ask y'all a hardware question?20:58
Oloughlin75!ask | hunteke!20:59
ubotuhunteke!: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:59
mhollisjrhunteke: I had originally planned to get 8gb but newegg ran out of my memory as I was submitting the order ><20:59
huntekeoh gosh: just /trying/ to stay on topic, hehe, alright . . .20:59
nosrednaekimBBL guys20:59
huntekeso I just ought a dell vostro with 2 gigs20:59
coggzi finally registered!!20:59
huntekeintending to go to 4.20:59
huntekebut when I opened it up, all I see is one of the 1 gig chips.21:00
coggzwhat are the vosotros like?21:00
Oloughlin75hunteke: whats the hardware question? :)21:00
huntekeis the other chip going to at all accessible to me?21:00
dewet_Lynoure_Please help21:00
mhollisjrhunteke: you're certain it isn't 1x2gb ?21:00
huntekewell, unless the label on the chip lied . . .21:00
mhollisjrhunteke:  ahh -nod-21:00
Oloughlin75hunteke: did they not put 2gb in?21:01
Dragnslcrhunteke- what does "more /proc/meminfo" say?21:01
Oloughlin75hunteke: does it show up as 2GB in your OS?21:01
huntekeOloughlin75: no, the bios reads 2 gigs21:01
mhollisjrthat's really odd21:01
Oloughlin75hunteke: might not be :/21:01
coggzhunteke: probobly wrong label21:01
huntekehehe, actually, to respond to that and to coggz earlier equestion21:01
huntekeI actually haven't booted it yet21:01
mhollisjrthere's not a fan or something covering the other stick making it hard to see or something is there?21:01
huntekeI've been having a philosophical battle with dell (that I recently one)21:01
huntekesince I won't be using windows, I got them to refund it21:02
Lynouredewet_: did you do what I told you? What did you get as a result?21:02
coggzhunteke: what are those laptops like?21:02
huntekebut in order to do that, I had to decline the EULA on the windows first boot.21:02
huntekecoggz: I'll tell you when I actually use it21:02
huntekeit was under dell deals on the small/medium business21:02
coggzhunteke: oh,lol21:02
huntekeI've been using an inspiron for the last 3.7 years.21:02
Lynouredewet_: I cannot work from "please help" alone, sorry, not without coming there and looking over your shoulder =)21:03
coggzhunteke:  just boughht one for my father21:03
dewet_It Give me this21:03
dewet_Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_ZA21:03
dewet_Reading package lists... Done21:03
coggzhunteke: i have inspiron 130021:03
huntekecoggz: cool, will he be using windows or will you be installing *nix on it?21:03
coggzhunteke: i ditched windows21:03
huntekecoggz: we're of teh same ilk, clearly.  :-)21:03
huntekecoggz: were you able to get them to refund it?21:03
coggzhunteke:  did you have wireless problems?21:03
huntekeon the inspiron?21:04
Lynouredewet_: that's not a result you get from  sudo aptitude install wine, looks like result from apt-get update.21:04
coggzhunteke: i used windows for years on it21:04
coggzhunteke: ya, on the inspiron21:04
Lynouredewet_: Did you pastebin your sources.list somewhere?21:04
huntekecoggz: no, I mean for your father, in regards to refunding windows on his vostro21:04
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coggzhunteke: oh, it has not arrived yet, but he will usee windows for now21:04
huntekecoggz: but as regards wireless, yes I had problems initially, but then intel/OS community made OS drivers21:05
huntekecoggz: alright21:05
dewet_Lynoure_Everything Says Done21:05
mhollisjrcdl21:05
mhollisjroops21:05
mhollisjr><21:05
dewet_when I did the  sudo aptitude install wine21:05
mhollisjrnot bad enough I typed here instead of a console but I messed up what I typed ><21:05
huntekewell, if anyone is interested in waging a philosophical battle in terms of getting refunded for an operating system you won't be using (because $50-150 is not worth 3+hours on the phone and arguing), take a gander at http://www.linux.com/articles/5938121:06
rakando u think dreamweaver would run on linux using wine?21:06
coggzhunteke: what wireless card does yours have? mine has the dreaded BCMXX ndiswrapper - from source issues21:06
Oloughlin75hunteke: how much do you think windows actually costs dell?21:06
huntekecoggz: oh noes! : 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)21:06
* mhollisjr guesses 15$ a disk21:07
huntekeOloughlin75: I don't know, something less than the retail $130 - $200 for WinXp Home21:07
dewet_Lynoure_How do I Pastebin21:07
mhollisjrless than OEM too21:07
huntekebut probably between $50  and $10021:07
coggzhunteke: lucky, took me  a week to do mine the first time. Fresh from windows... lol21:07
Oloughlin75hunteke: i bet they spend less than 50 per pc21:07
Lynoure!pastebin | dewet_21:07
ubotudewet_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:07
huntekewell, pending a call back, the guy agreed last night to refund me $50 bucks.21:07
huntekeIt's not the money21:08
huntekeI can't stress that enough, it's not about the money21:08
Oloughlin75. After working with customer service, I received a refund of $52.5021:08
huntekeit's the victory for OS and letting dell know that I don't like being forced into an OS21:08
Oloughlin75oh i know hunteke, but still, why do they charge so much21:08
huntekeI can't answer that.21:08
coggzhunteke: i keep my copy incase... also virtual box usoing my copy is good as i need itunes21:08
huntekecoggz: why do you need iTunes?21:08
Oloughlin75eww itunes21:09
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huntekeI've found Rhythmbox to be a 100% acceptable, even better app than iTunes21:09
coggzi fix ipods, as crazy as it sounds, i need itunes to do that21:09
huntekeand not nearly as memory intensive or DRM laden21:09
huntekeRhythmbox can handle iPods21:09
huntekeI'm not sure what all's involved in fixing 'em however21:09
coggzi use amarok for MY ipod, but when u have errors, u need certain features of itunes21:09
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Oloughlin75i need a zune alternative on linux :(21:09
huntekeZune!?21:10
Oloughlin75hunteke: yes21:10
coggzZune!21:10
huntekecoggz: I'm curious, what kind of errors?21:10
huntekedo the iPods get?21:10
coggzu name it i can fix it21:10
huntekecoggz: I'll keep that in mind, for next time I get an ipod21:10
* hunteke does /whois on coggz21:10
Oloughlin75coggz: you dont just reinstall firmware?21:10
coggzbroken hdd's, firmware errors21:10
coggznot on all, some require opening up, switching parts, need special tools21:11
huntekehow /do/ you fix the broken hdd?21:11
Oloughlin75new hard drive21:11
mhollisjrdoes cp support previous directory like cd? like for example is this valid? 'cd some/dir/cp filename -'21:11
huntekeah, just swap 'em out21:11
* hunteke slaps self21:11
mhollisjrtypo21:11
mhollisjris this valid? 'cd some/dir/filename -'21:11
huntekemhollisjr: not that I'm aware of21:11
huntekeno21:11
huntekebut you could do21:11
mhollisjrgah another typo lmao21:11
huntekecd /path/to/dir21:11
coggzi picked up a 20gig B+W ipod for £30 today, thats about $6021:11
huntekeblast21:11
mhollisjr 'cd some/dir/; cp filename -'21:11
mhollisjrthat's what I wanted21:12
huntekeI'm not sure21:12
trappistmhollisjr: not quite, but I think there's an env variable that holds the value of -21:12
hunteketry it and find out21:12
mhollisjr-nod-21:12
* mhollisjr attempts to re-prepare his flash stick with gutsy instead of hardy for a reinstall21:13
rickest$OLDPWD21:13
dewet_lynoure_This is the URl21:13
dewet_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56993/21:13
mhollisjrahh that's it ty21:13
huntekeah, brilliant rickest.  :-)21:13
SybuxHi all21:13
Oloughlin75hey Sybux21:13
dewet_lynoure_That is what I done Last21:13
nosrednaekimhey Oloughlin7521:13
rickesthehe, I just cd'd and then: env | grep 'where-I-just-was'   :)21:13
Oloughlin75sup nosrednaekim21:13
SybuxDoes any1 know how to redirect mail flagged as spam from spamassassin to a folder in maildir ?21:14
Lynouredewet_: it shows wine was already installed on your system21:14
Lynouredewet_: oh, oops, not.21:14
MartinCleaverlooks like the OS on my machine is about 7GB21:14
Lynouredewet_: pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list  too21:14
mhollisjryou added the repo dewet_?21:14
AndreSTChow do i change directory on my local machine while connected to a remote machine, by ftp?21:14
MartinCleaverSo, to be safe I'll give 15GB for the new partition21:15
mhollisjrdewet_: take a peek here http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb21:15
rickestAndreSTC: lcd I believe21:15
AndreSTCthnaks21:15
rickestAndreSTC: do you want the whole 'ftp is unsecure blah blah blah' thingy?21:15
coggzwhere can i ask an off topic question to you guys?21:15
nosrednaekim!ot21:16
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:16
AndreSTCrickest is it? im new to this stuff =P21:16
coggzaree you guys on there?21:16
nosrednaekimsome are21:16
rickestAndreSTC: yeah, scp/sftp has pretty much replaced rpc, telnet, and ftp21:16
Lynourecoggz: go see?21:16
coggzkk,21:16
mhollisjrwhat is the intended difference between /media and /mnt?21:17
mhollisjror is /mnt just getting phased out?21:17
Sybuxnone, it's just 2 different folder name21:18
rickestAndreSTC: if you're on a personal LAN w/o port forwarding it's probably ok but anywhere else the others are preferred (plus rsync or 'rsync -e ssh')21:18
dewet_Lynoure_ /etc/apt/sources.list - Not Working21:18
AndreSTCrickest i tried connecting with sftp, it said something about key fingerprint... whats that?21:19
AndreSTCrickest is there somewhere i can read about sftp?21:19
rickestAndreSTC: hmm, wait one21:19
mhollisjris there a program for simulating a boot on a device?21:20
mhollisjrlike if I wanted to test booting off my USB stick without rebooting 25 times, since I probably need to make adjustments?21:20
Lynouredewet_: open it, then paste:   kate /etc/apt/sources.list21:20
rickestAndreSTC: I thought I had a specific intro marked but I guess not. google 'introduction ssh', should find something decent there21:21
AndreSTC[rickest]: ok21:21
SybuxDoes any1 know how to redirect mail flagged as spam from spamassassin to a folder in maildir ?21:21
AndreSTCrickest soh sftp and ssh are pretty much same thing?21:21
AndreSTCso*21:21
rickestAndreSTC: fwiw, the key fingerprint is ok, helps prevent man-in-the-middle attacks, etc. most primers will talk some about that21:21
rickestAndreSTC: sftp is just an ftp-like interface that works over ssh, yes. once you switch, though, most just use rsync, scp, or sshfs for persistent mounts if needed21:22
dewet_Lynoure_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56994/21:23
AndreSTCrickest ok21:23
jasonhi21:24
jasonanyone here?21:24
rickestAndreSTC: http://www.suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf   was popular on Digg21:24
Lynouredewet_: seems you only have a cd source.... you'll have to uncomment a pile of lines from that file21:24
jasonhow do I make my python scripts executable?21:25
dewet_Lynoure_It Sows now in the Adept Manager but still dont want to install21:25
rickestAndreSTC: and fwiw, it looks a lot harder than it is.  You don't need any of the advanced stuff to simply use it21:25
Oloughlin75chmod 775 i think jason21:25
nosrednaekimjason » add the line "#!/usr/bin/python" as the first line of the script21:25
dewet_Lynoure_Ok. What lines will that be21:26
jasonthanks21:26
AndreSTC[rickest]: ok..i found this one also, http://polydistortion.net/doc/ssh.html21:26
DragnslcrAndreSTC- if the server end has sshd running, scp should work automagically21:26
Lynouredewet_: wait, I'll give you a link soon21:27
rickestthat one looks good, too AndreSTC21:27
lerouxjoin #ficken21:28
jasonI added the line, but when I left click it just opens with kate. so I changed it to executable, but no change except now kate doesn't open it21:28
nosrednaekimjason » its probably executing... what does it do?21:29
Oloughlin75!find mplayer-*21:29
ubotuFound: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, kmplayer-doc, python-templayer (and 12 others)21:29
jasonthis is the code.  print 5; raw_input('')21:29
Lynouredewet_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56996/ is the modified version that will probably work.  you'll need to open the file as root for it to be editable:   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list21:29
jasonshould print 5 and wait for me to press enter21:30
nosrednaekimjason » well, thats just gonna hang, becuase there is no way for it to get input21:30
prince_jammysjason: run it from a terminal21:30
jasonif I run from the command line it works fine21:30
jasonbut I wanna be able to click on it21:30
jasonlike in windows21:30
Lynouredewet_: after saving the changes, do   sudo apt-get clean all    and then   sudo apt-get update21:30
prince_jammysjason: that aint so easy21:30
nosrednaekimjason » and have it open a terminal?21:30
Oloughlin75jason: you need a GUI21:30
jasonIDLE isn't standard for some reason on linux???21:31
prince_jammysjason: oh i see, you want it to open a terminal21:31
trappistmhollisjr: ~- is the previous directory21:31
jasonso if I was using pygame to do all my drawing etc I would just put #!/usr/bin/python at the top and mark it executable?21:32
nosrednaekimyep21:32
jasonbut otherwise kubuntu doesn't know that it must open a terminal?21:32
Oloughlin75is there a way to add places to the menu that appears when you click the computer (next to the K menu)?21:33
nosrednaekimOloughlin75 » I don't think so.21:33
nosrednaekimunless its a subsection of the Kmenu that is separated off.21:33
huntekegah, would help if I pasted into the right room, hehe21:34
rickestOloughlin75: Right-click the K and do menu editor21:34
nosrednaekimjason » let me see if there is a way21:34
trappistmhollisjr: and, see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT to answer your other question21:34
hunteke(I'm also in #ubuntu . . .and K and U apparently look very similar . . .)21:34
huntekebah! upgrading the ram in a vostro 1500 is a little harder: http://pctipguys.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=39&Itemid=3621:34
Oloughlin75rickest: and what would i change?21:34
rickestOloughlin75: I think I read your question wrong, sorry. Thought you wanted to change the menu, not the computer next to it21:35
Oloughlin75:)21:35
nosrednaekimjason » you could point a shortcut to it and tell the shortcut to run a terminal.21:36
nosrednaekimjason » or, right click on the python file, click "open with" type python into the top, tell it to run in a terminal and tell it to remember the file type accociation21:37
creepshi all21:38
dewet_Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56997/21:38
jefferson_hi21:38
jasonyes that last one worked fine21:38
dewet_Lynoure_What now21:38
jasonthanks21:38
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Undeaddd21:38
creepsim having trouble accessing my storage drives in my computer21:38
nosrednaekimjason » you're welcome21:38
creepsits says its unable to mount21:39
prince_jammysyep looks like konsole --noclose -e yourscript does it21:39
nosrednaekimcreeps » systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions21:39
creepsk21:39
jasonI am having some trouble installing my Nvidia drivers for my 8800GT. I have the *.run file for it. I go to init 3 so and run the file with the appropriate commands. But it says that a kernel interface doesn't exist21:40
Lynouredewet_: hmm, are you having adept open at the same time? Close it, try again21:40
dewet_k21:40
rakanmy apache has php.load and .conf in mods_enabled directory but when i try to load php script in browser it asks me to download it21:40
nosrednaekimjason » why don't you use the restricted-manager?21:40
Lynouredewet_: it keeps dpkg resources locked, so it should be closed meanwhile.21:40
solid_liqjason, you need to install your kernel headers21:41
jasonThat requires downloading and I only have 40MB of cap left, it's precious. But I did try that, it doesn't detect a thing21:41
jasonis it big?21:42
solid_liqjason, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)21:42
jasonhow do I do it?21:42
nosrednaekimjason » sudo apt-get install build-essential21:42
jasonwhat is uname for?21:42
solid_liqjason, ^^^21:42
solid_liquname shows you your kernel version21:42
creepsright if add this in konsole thing > sudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow/dev/hda(put number of drive in question here???)21:42
solid_liquname -r specifically shows only the 2.6.xx version of your kernel21:42
dewet_Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56998/21:42
jasonso I just copy paste your command21:43
solid_liqjason, yep21:43
solid_liqjason, make sure you run that as root of course21:43
solid_liqjason, or add  sudo  at the beginning21:43
jasonok21:43
jasontnx21:43
solid_liqnp21:43
Oloughlin75is there a way to search for empty folders?21:43
Lynouredewet_: looks good. Now do  sudo aptitude install wine21:44
nosrednaekimOloughlin75 » yeah.... but let some command line master tell you... i'd have to go read a dozen man pages :)21:44
solid_liqOloughlin75, of course ;)21:44
creepsdam it mounts but21:44
flipstarOloughlin75: fslint can do that21:44
Oloughlin75solid_liq: and the command is... :)21:44
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creepsnow im gettin folder contenst could not be displyed21:44
jasonok I will try it. brb. thanks21:44
Oloughlin75!info fslint21:44
ubotufslint (source: fslint): A toolkit to fix various problems with filesystems' data.. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (gutsy), package size 67 kB, installed size 580 kB21:44
solid_liqOloughlin75, a script21:44
flipstarit has a gui21:45
nosrednaekimcreeps » you need to mount it as a normal user... to do that you need to set the mount permissions to all users21:45
yassinehow to stop compiz please? i forgot the command... :)21:45
Oloughlin75yassine: kwin --replace21:45
SheeEttinAnyone running Hardy in here? I'm thinking of upgrading...21:46
ubuntucan anyone help me figure out why i cant mount a partition containing kubuntu from the live cd? it says hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99921:46
flipstarhardy is in #ubuntu+121:46
nosrednaekimSheeEttin » #ubuntu+121:46
SheeEttinflipstar, nosrednaekim: thanks.21:47
creepsdam is it possible to view any files off a windows formatted hdd21:47
acee1234is there any way to keep ubuntu from freezing when logging off or restarting x? using ati x1400 restricted drivers im using ubuntu but i got no responce from that channel21:47
creepsits not a boot drive only ntfs storage21:47
nosrednaekimubuntu » system settings->advanced->disks and partitions, set the drive to be mmountable by all users21:47
jasonIt says that I need the libc header files21:47
solid_liqOloughlin75, for d in $(find . -type d); do NF=$(ls $d | wc -l); if [ $NF -eq 0 ]; then echo "empty : $d"; fi; done21:48
nosrednaekimacee1234 » yep.... tell gdm to restart X on log-out21:48
creepsthnx nosrednaekim21:48
acee1234 acee1234 how21:48
nosrednaekimjason » run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" its smal21:48
acee1234nosrednaekim: how21:48
Oloughlin75solid_liq: fslint works21:48
flipstarjason: then install it.. sudo apt-get install libc6-dev21:49
solid_liqOloughlin75, fslint considers an empty dir to be a filesystem "problem"?21:49
Lynouredewet_: I'll soon need to go, so let me know if it worked.21:49
jasonok so which one should I do? the above option is 13MB21:49
Oloughlin75solid_liq: its an option to search for -- i consider it to be a problem ;)21:49
nosrednaekimacee1234 » google it... I don't know how to do it with GDM21:49
Oloughlin75solid_liq: you can search for a bunch of stuff21:50
solid_liqOloughlin75, heh, whatever, I just script instead ;)21:50
flipstarsolid_liq: fslint has a lot of options :)21:50
solid_liqflipstar, pfft21:50
solid_liqflipstar, flipity-flop, back in my day...!! ;)21:50
ubuntuhow can i access my home folder from the live cd.........is there a way to enter my password from here?21:51
dewet_Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56999/21:51
creepswoo thnx fellas n ladies if any21:51
solid_liqubuntu, you need to mount your hdd21:51
solid_liq!mount21:51
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter21:51
dewet_Lynoure_Ok - This is What Happend21:51
ubuntusolid_liq: it is mounted, it is telling me access is denied21:51
ubuntuwhen i try to enter the home folder21:51
solid_liqubuntu, type su to get root privs, then try again21:52
creepsright i can see the files thru disk manger but i can actually view them21:52
creepsi need a serial off a read me21:52
ubuntuwhats the live cd password21:52
solid_liqubuntu, it shouldn't have one21:53
flipstarthere is no21:53
Lynouredewet_: congrats, you now have wine installed. and your system will also be getting the security updates and bug fixes you did not get before21:53
ubuntusu asks for a password21:53
ubuntusudo cd doesnt work21:53
flipstarjust enter21:53
creepsim on some screen saying select mount point path?21:53
jasonwhy doesn't konquerer run gmail?21:53
dewet_Lynoure_Thanks, Its Working, Really Appriciate all your Trouble.21:53
Lynouredewet_: now you can continue onward starting with Initial Setup at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine21:53
solid_liqubuntu, then try   sudo passwd   and give root a password21:53
flipstarubuntu or use sudo -s so you wont be asked21:53
Lynouredewet_: You are welcome. :)21:53
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LynoureI think I'll go get some sleep.21:54
ubuntuscrew it i dont think i have the file i need anyway21:55
jpatrick!noroot > solid_liq21:55
solid_liqjpatrick, ?21:55
jpatricksolid_liq: see pm from ubuntu21:55
jpatrickubotu*21:55
solid_liqjpatrick, it's a livecd, so that idea is a non-issue21:55
biossno sound on a hp dv6000 (hda intel) when i were the hedphones works fine but the integrated speakears are not working, if anyone knows whats the problem ?21:55
nosrednaekimcreeps » anywhere in /media will do..make up a name like "/media/drive"21:55
jpatricksolid_liq: ahh, right, sorry21:56
jasonwhy doesn't konquerer run gmail?21:56
nosrednaekimjason » it can... you have to se the browser ID to firefox though21:56
ubuntuhow do i force a partition to unmount21:56
Arwenubuntu, -lf21:56
nosrednaekimubuntu » "sudo umount /mount/point"21:56
Arwenbut it'll wreck your fs21:56
ubuntunosrednaekim: that doesnt seem to work it say sthat it isnt mounted but qtparted says it is21:57
trappistyeah I only ever use -l on busted samba/nfs mounts21:57
ubuntuArwen: im trying to merge 2 partitionds21:57
acee1234nosrednaekim:  didnt work changed restartserver value to true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf no luck and it canged the gdm theme to a flower...21:57
mhollisjrdoes 7.10 come default with compiz installed?21:57
ubuntu!compiz | mhollisjr21:57
ubotumhollisjr: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:57
nosrednaekimacee1234 » lol21:57
Dragnslcrmhollisjr- Ubuntu does, Kubuntu doesn't21:57
trappistmhollisjr: did you catch my answers to your other questions?21:58
mhollisjrgotcha, and umm I might not have one sec21:58
trappistmhollisjr: ~- is the previous directory21:58
trappistmhollisjr: and, see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT to answer your other question21:58
acee1234im going to throw my laptop at an ati programmer21:58
biosshave anybody had problems with new linux images?21:58
ubuntuis there a reason the console will say a partition isnt mounted and qtparted says it is?21:58
trappistacee1234: they're called amd programmers now :)21:58
mhollisjrtrappist: got them thank you21:59
acee1234easier to hit21:59
trappistbioss: you talking about kernels?21:59
creepsomg21:59
biossyes21:59
trappistbioss: not I21:59
creepsalls i wanna do is look at they read me file21:59
mhollisjrawesome flash drive is prepared just checking the integrity of the squash and then it's tiem to downgrade22:00
biosswhen i do an update with the new ones i have to use grub to manually select the older kernel to boot22:00
trappistbioss: because what, the new one doesn't boot?22:00
biossno22:00
trappistafaik the only change in the new one is a one-line fix to a very nasty security hole22:01
flipstarwhats the problem during boot ?22:01
creepsany idea what is stopping me being able to view theese files22:01
creepsi can see them in disks manager/ partitions22:01
biossIm thinking is got to be that they dont download correctly22:01
nosrednaekimcreeps » do "sudo -i" root should be able to view them22:01
biossis there any other way to get them>?22:01
trappistcreeps: how are you trying to view them, and what happens when you try.22:01
trappistbioss: apt does checksums before installing packages, so a broken download should never cause this problem22:02
flipstarbioss: there should be checked after download ..22:02
biossdidnt know that22:02
raul_#channel22:02
creepswell i go to my computer and the hdd's are there i cant look in them , but then someone said go into disks / partitions22:02
creepsand enable mountable22:02
creepsi did and i can look in files there but not anywhere else22:03
trappistbioss: maybe check /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if the new kernel has the same options as the working kernel22:03
trappistbioss: also..... what happens when you boot to the new kernel22:03
biossin verbosa?22:03
biossit stays black22:04
trappisthuh?22:04
trappistbioss: after what22:04
creepsit went disk manager then onto select new mount point path . in there if i click change it shows me whats on the partition22:04
trappistbioss: let me back up - did you happen to install, say, nvidia drivers without using apt-get? like using envy or from nvidia.com?22:04
biosswhen it starts to boot the computer gfrub starts and everithin seems to be working when grub finishes it stays black22:05
biossyes22:05
trappistbioss: then you'll have to do that again.  new kernel means new video drivers.22:05
biossbut shuold it reset to x?22:06
mhollisjrspeaking of kernel22:06
trappistand let this be a lesson to you about stepping outside the package manager :)22:06
mhollisjrare there any optimizations that I can do such as pre-emptive and such22:06
trappistbioss: reset to X?  X is set to use the nvidia drivers, which don't work because they're built against the old kernel.  you need new drivers for your new kernel.22:07
creepsi get this message if i try to view22:07
creepsYou do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdc1".22:07
biossbut i dont to even the login screen?22:07
flipstartrappist: the nvidia drivers need to be build after every kernel update ?22:07
trappistmhollisjr: with gutsy, I don't think there are any optimizations you can do to make a noticeable difference22:07
mhollisjr-nod- so the ideal settings would already be compiled by default?22:08
trappistflipstar: only if you're using the ones from nvidia.com - if you stick with the package manager, you'll get new drivers from the repo via the magic of dependencies22:08
ubuntudoes a swap partition have to be right next to the ext3 partition22:08
hydrogenno22:08
flipstarkay thx trappist22:08
trappistmhollisjr: not ideal for you, but ideal for most users collectively.  you could change some things to improve performance in some areas, but you'd probably never notice the difference, and you'd cause yourself some headaches.22:09
biossok i will try to download the new kernel but is not always that the grub works to getting to the old to boot the system22:09
fevelhey22:09
fevelanyone usnig the new kde4??22:09
mhollisjrwell I remember when I used pclinuxos I did make a change to some of the pre-emptive settings, though I forget what exactly I changed, I'd have to look at it, and I did get a noticable performance boost22:10
fevelbetter yet...should I??22:10
trappistmhollisjr: in previous releases they had a low-latency kernel in universe, which helped with some i/o inefficiencies caused by power-saving optimizations for laptops, but the problems that caused it seem to be gone, so there's no more low-latency kernel22:10
nosrednaekimfevel » yes, Iam22:10
mhollisjrtrappist: ok good deal, thanks for the headsup22:10
* creeps pulls his hair out strand by strand22:11
mhollisjrone more question, if the CD is doing an integrity check there's no harm in interrupting it correct?22:11
trappistmhollisjr: preemptive doesn't have a real effect on performance, only an apparent one, because for example i/o operations can be preempted to make sure the mouse cursor moves smoothly.  I think you're currently running a preemptible kernel, but I'd have to check22:11
creepsi need a coffee22:11
trappistmhollisjr: right, it's just checking the cd itself against the md5sum of the image22:11
nosrednaekimfevel » it woks fine here.22:11
mhollisjrwell I do remember having issues with a slow mouse cursor in wine, if that'd improve that I'll have to lookinto it22:11
Daisuke_Idohave there been any updates to kde 3.5.9 to make it not as bad?22:11
Daisuke_Idoheard it slowed things down a bit22:12
mhollisjrwell in my case a USB stick but the question is the same since I doubt it would try to mount what it would assume to be a CDROM as read write22:12
hydrogenthats kind of a vague and inflamatory question...22:12
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creepswould me gettin wine help me view files on thoose ntfs partitions?22:12
fevelnosrednaekim: should I be using it?? I installed it and now the hotkeys dont work on the paillion notebook, the wallpaper dissapears after every boot and I get errors opening certain programs and crashes opening gtk ones22:12
trappistcreeps: no22:12
Daisuke_Idohydrogen: it wasn't meant to be, i'm deciding whether or not to reinstall kde22:12
creepsadrn22:12
creepsdarn*22:12
creepsbrb22:13
Daisuke_Idoand from the freedesktop things putting stuff where no one wants it, and the alleged slowdown, i'd like to know what i'm diving into22:13
hydrogenwell22:13
hydrogenwithout knowing what your actually asking22:13
hydrogenmy answer is22:13
hydrogena big vat of warm chocolate syrup22:13
Daisuke_Idosounds yummy22:14
Daisuke_Idoi guess the real question is: is 3.5.9 an improvement over 3.5.822:14
hydrogenone would assume so..22:14
hydrogenI don't think they went in and broke things22:14
hydrogenjust to have another release22:14
hydrogenread the changelog22:14
mhollisjrbrb in gutsy22:15
Daisuke_Idohelpful.  i was asking for personal opinions22:15
trappistnew bugs do get introduced into complex software with new releases22:15
trappistDaisuke_Ido: I've upgraded, but I haven't restarted X, so I couldn't say personally22:15
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido » from what I heard... it was mostly the inclusion of the enterprise PIM (which Kubuntu already had)22:15
hydrogenI no longer use kde3.. so couldn't tell you22:15
creepsright action time again22:15
ubuntuare the partition numbers in the installationa nd the numbers in qtparted the same numbers?22:17
coggzis gnome good or bad?22:17
nosrednaekimubuntu» yes22:17
trappistcoggz: bad!  all bad!22:17
ahmadhello, i cant connect to internet using the wireless network, however at Knetwork manager, it detected a wirelssnetwork. it appears that the device is ra0, subnetmask is 0.0.0.0, broadcast is 0.0.0.0,, hidden-no, bandwith is 62 mb/s, signal strentgh is 81, frequency is 2.412, device is inactive, network is not active. can you help me fix this problem?22:17
nosrednaekim!gnome22:17
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.22:17
flipstari didnt noticed a change for 3.5.9 but i didnt payd attention for that22:17
trappistcoggz: seriously, try kde and gnome and decide which you prefer.22:17
ubuntunosrednaekim: im glad i didnt install then because it was about to wipe out my winodws installation22:17
nosrednaekimheh22:18
ubuntunosrednaekim: any idea why im not able to format this unallocated partition?22:18
rakani can't get my repo database up to date as i was told here before22:18
rakanwhat should i do in order to get the repo?22:19
Daisuke_Idoubuntu - qtparted has done that to me on several occasions, especially after performing another action22:19
fevelanyone solve the problems on kde4??22:19
Daisuke_Ido!gparted | rakan22:19
uboturakan: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/22:19
Daisuke_Idowhooops22:19
Daisuke_Idowrong user22:19
ubuntuthe mount poinbt for a new isntall should be / right?22:20
Daisuke_Idorakan: don't partition anything22:20
Oloughlin75fevel: what problems/22:20
nosrednaekimfevel» what problems?22:20
rakandaisuke_ldo: i noticed it has nothing to do with what i wanted :D22:21
fevelmy specific one ...is that the hotkeys on my hp pavillion notebook doesnt work on it, although it works on 3 and gnome (volume control key, and pause)22:21
fevelI see other problems like every bootup my wallpaper dissapears22:22
fevelmaybe I installed it incorectly22:22
fevelhoq can I see the version?22:22
fevelim really not used to kde and im trying to make the switch22:22
ubuntudoes kubuntu automatically add in a swap?22:23
rickestubuntu: yes, if you let it autopartition22:23
rickestubuntu: during install, I presume you mean22:23
Daisuke_Idomight as well install xubuntu-desktop as well :D22:23
ubuntuits telling me if i do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a swap partition the installation will continue without swap space22:24
fevelI didnt add any repositories, I just gave it a sudo aptitude install kde4-core22:24
fevelit seemed to go fine22:24
rickestfevel: try 'kcontrol' then look in Help->About KDE22:24
nosrednaekimubuntu» you need to have a swap partition... at least its reccomended22:24
rickestfevel: or simply the opening screen of kcontrol22:24
ubuntunosrednaekim: ive never had to do it manually before22:25
rickestubuntu: I don't know. the last one I did I let it do everything and it created swap22:25
fevelLOL it says kde 3,5,8 although I know its 422:25
ubuntuhow big of a swap partition do i need?22:25
fevelbecause of oxygen and stuff22:25
ubuntu!swap22:25
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info22:25
rickestbefore I've always set it up myself so I only have one experience of letting it handle it and it did22:25
rickestfevel: hehe, pre-release22:25
nosrednaekimfevel» you need to log out and log into kde422:25
fevelI am22:26
fevelI logged into kde 422:26
nosrednaekimfevel» and if its a kde3 app, it will still say 3.5.822:26
feveland I know its that22:26
rickestfevel: perhaps the package manager (synaptic, adept_manager, et al) will tell you22:26
Daisuke_Idoapt-cache policy kde4-core22:26
ubuntuhow big is the default swap partition22:26
Oloughlin75ubuntu: there is no default size22:27
fevelit says 3.2gutsy22:27
Daisuke_Idodepends on ram22:27
ubuntui have 1 gig22:27
ubuntuhow big should i make it22:27
Oloughlin75ubuntu: id make it 1 gig, but thats just me :/22:27
creepshello again22:27
Daisuke_Idothen i would go with a 1.5 or 2gb swap22:27
fevelshould I add a repository to sources? if so can anyone tell me?22:27
ubuntuok cool22:27
Daisuke_Idoif you have the space to spare, it can't hurt22:27
nosrednaekimubuntu» 1.5gigs22:28
rickestsurprisingly, it made my swap 6GB when I let it do it itself22:28
Oloughlin75nosrednaekim: he means for swap22:28
nosrednaekimOloughlin75» 1.5times the ram is reccomended for suspend/hibernate purposes22:28
Oloughlin75oooo22:28
ubuntuswap doesnt need a mount point right?22:28
nosrednaekimubuntu» nope22:28
Daisuke_Idoso much to install -_-22:29
Daisuke_Idoi might run out of hard drive space22:29
* Daisuke_Ido giggles like a demon-possessed schoolgirl22:29
ubuntuok this still says partition #4 and #222:29
ubuntuwhatever im gonna trust it this time22:29
ubuntuif it screwes up my HP restore partition im going to be somewhat angry22:30
ubuntuwish me luck =)22:30
ahmadrickest, can you help me fix my wireless connection? icant connect to internet using my wifi, however at Knetworkmanager it appear that ralink 2500 802.11g card mini PCi. the device is rao, subnetmask is 0.0.0.0, broadcast is 0.0.0.0, accespoint is 00:04:29:83:40:82, signal strentgh is 81%, frequency is 2.412 device is inactive and the network is inactive.22:30
holasameone can help me to configure my webcam22:30
nosrednaekim#2? that'd be windows!22:30
nosrednaekimunless its resizing22:30
ubuntui already said next22:30
ubuntui dont care if it screws up my windows, i just reinstalled it22:30
ubuntui just care about partition # 622:30
rickestahmad: I've never used wireless under linux unfortunately so I have no experience with knetwork. be glad to help with something else but w/l is not my strong point, sorry22:31
ubuntui dont have the disks22:31
coggzbye22:31
ubuntuahmad: dont use knetworkmanager22:31
ubuntui prefer wicd22:31
ahmadrickest, thanks.22:31
rickestahmad: tho I will say it sounds like you just need to connect to the wireless signal. have you already initiated a connection with the detected network?22:32
ubuntuim going to have a fun night of installing packages thats for certain =)22:32
nosrednaekimahmad» look in the forums.... raLinks have a very common problem22:32
ahmadubuntu, what is wicd, i can add that at aplet manager?22:32
mhollisjryou know I don't care how many times I do it it still impresses the hell out of me that you can use the os while you're installing it22:33
holasameone can help me to configure my webcam22:33
rickestand frankly, although I used KDE for a couple of years 4 years ago, since then I've been running enlightenment on gentoo so I'm sort of a kubuntu n00b  :-)22:34
ahmadrichest, yup i tried a couple of times but it failed to connect. then i shift to wireless manager, it is out of range.22:34
mhollisjrer >< system installed too quickly gotta reboot already >< brb again22:34
prince_jammyshola: did you look at the guide?22:34
rickestwe have one *buntu box in the office but it's a server install with IceWM on top22:34
ubuntuhopefully reformatting will allow kopete to work now nosrednaekim =)22:35
rickestahmad: nosrednaekim's advice might be the next step then22:35
nosrednaekimubuntu» well, thats another whole problem22:35
holaprince_jammys: which guide22:35
ubuntuyea i know22:35
ubuntuthats just a hope22:35
prince_jammys!webcam | hola22:35
ubotuhola: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras22:35
ubuntumy main reason for reformatting was to free up the over 6 gigs of space floating on my hard drive from past swap partitions22:35
holaprince_jammys: it seems does not supported but i think that it is a stange thing22:37
ahmadubuntu, can you can you help me fix my wireless connection?22:38
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prince_jammyshola: sorry, i don't have one. i only know that guide22:38
nosrednaekimahmad» please do not just pick random people22:38
nosrednaekimubuntu» lol22:39
ubuntunosrednaekim: can you feel my pain on the floating partitions/22:40
ubuntuahmad: what exactly is the problem22:40
nosrednaekimubuntu» no..... but I understand :)22:40
ahmadnosrednaekim, ok, sorry i'm new to this and also a new user of linux, i'm still familiarizing it. can you help me fix my wireless connection?22:40
ubuntuhey man, 6 gigs unused,,,,,,,,,,,thats annoying..........there are 2 other partitions totalling 3 megs, even THAT is annying me22:40
nosrednaekimahmad» like I said... search the ubuntu forums... it is a very common problem22:41
ubuntu!wireless | ahmad22:41
ubotuahmad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:41
ahmadunbuntu, i cant connect to internet using my wifi, but it detected a wireless network with an excellent signal.22:41
ubuntuwhy cant you connect22:41
ubuntumore info please22:41
ubuntudoes your pc blow up?22:41
ubuntudoes it expell cheese when you try to connect?22:41
nosrednaekimhaha22:42
flipstarubuntu you should be able to merge partitions without reinstall ..22:42
ubuntutoo late for that flipstar lol22:42
flipstarnm22:42
ubuntubut i dont think its possible without reformatting22:42
ubuntui tried to resize22:43
ubuntuit wouldnt let me22:43
creepsi think ive found my solution22:43
flipstarqtparted can that22:43
ubuntui tried unmounting force unmounting and everything22:43
creepshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700922:43
ubuntubut im at 90% installed so yea too late =)22:43
flipstarmaybe you'll try next time :)22:43
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ubuntui did try =/22:44
ubuntumany times22:44
ubuntulol22:44
flipstaroh22:44
ubuntueven asked in here why it wouldnt let me22:44
ahmadubuntu, at Knetworkmanager, it appear that the device is rao, subnetmask is 0.0.0.0, broadcast is 0.0.0.0, accespoint is 00:04:29:83:40:82, signal strenght is 81% frequency is 2.412, device is inactive and the network is inactive.22:44
flipstar!repeat > ahmad22:45
flipstar!forums > ahmad22:45
jpatrick!msg > ahmad22:46
ahmadok thanks.22:46
creepshmm this aint easy man22:48
Daisuke_Idohmmph22:48
Daisuke_Idoso far so good22:48
Daisuke_Idobut my previous idiocy caught up with me22:49
creepslol doesnt it always tho22:49
Daisuke_Idoi thought hey, i'm reinstalling, settings will be the same, i'll back up my /home (hdd was dying) and restore it22:50
evilbughow can i completely remove kubuntu-desktop?22:50
hydrogenrm -if /22:50
Daisuke_Idoit didn't work so well.  it worked, but i wanted a fresh kubuntu experience22:50
hydrogennotsomuch!22:50
Daisuke_Idohydrogen: not even a funny suggestion22:50
evilbugi installed via "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and tried removing by "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" but didn't remove much.22:50
Daisuke_Ido!puregnome | evilbug22:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:50
Daisuke_Idooh, but it knows purekde22:50
Daisuke_Idobleh22:50
flipstarevilbug: try sudo apt-get autoremove ?22:51
hydrogenDaisuke_Ido: well, when you considder the fact that 1) I made it interactive, 2) I didn't prefix it with sudo, and 3) The average IQ of people in here is greater than -6, It wasn't that bad22:51
jussi01evilbug: please ignore what hydrogen said.22:51
Daisuke_Idohydrogen: it's still not wise to even recommend that22:51
jussi01hydrogen: Please dont do that again.22:51
evilbug:)22:52
flipstarDaisuke_Ido: its really easy to clone a system..22:52
Daisuke_Idoflipstar: yeah, but.22:52
Daisuke_Idoanyway, i got everything cool now22:52
creepsoooo why wont it work22:52
Daisuke_Idoi backed up my ktorrent, konversation, and amarok settings, then dumped .kde22:52
evilbugso how do i do it?22:52
flipstari hate to install every single packet i want..so i just cloned via dpkg --get-selections :P22:53
creepsanybody ever done this> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700922:54
flipstarinstalling ntfs-3g ?22:54
jussi01creeps: thats quite old...22:54
jussi01!ntfs-3g | creeps22:54
ubotucreeps: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions22:54
Daisuke_Idoand now i get the joyous task of resetting things the way i want them (ie. not using konqueror as a browser)22:55
flipstarthats pretty easy creeps :)22:55
creepsyeh for you maybe but im a fresh linux noob22:55
creepsthnx for link22:55
flipstarits a pretty good tutorial22:56
jussi01creeps: look at the link from ubotu22:56
holaprince_jammys: it seems does not supported but i think that it is a stange thing22:56
holasameone can help me to configure my webcam22:56
Oloughlin75!webcam22:56
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras22:56
evilbugany clue on how i can completely remove kubuntu-desktop?22:56
creepsahh thnx22:57
Oloughlin75evilbug: sudo apt0get purge kubuntu-desktop22:57
prince_jammyssudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop? or the above22:57
prince_jammyscan you apt-get purge?22:57
jussi01evilbug: you can use autoremove, but its dangerous...22:57
Oloughlin75prince_jammys: i think thats what i usually do22:58
flipstaryes prince_jammys22:58
evilbugi'll try what Oloughlin75 said :) thanks22:58
prince_jammysinteresting, there's also an option --purge22:58
flipstarman apt-get |grep purge22:59
jussi01you can do both iirc22:59
asdfasdfasdfhi i have kde 4 with kde 3 too, i want to use kde 4.0.1 in spanish how can i do that?22:59
ps3kubuntuCan i watch divx films installing only vlc player  , or do i have to install w32codecs too ?22:59
ps3kubuntuin kubuntu 7.1023:00
flipstarasdfasdfasdf: install kde-l10n-es23:00
creepsright adding new apps now23:00
asdfasdfasdfthat will work in kde 4.0.1 flipstar ?23:00
flipstaryes23:00
asdfasdfasdfokay thank u23:00
flipstarkde-l10n-es - Spanish (es) localisation files for KDE423:01
jussi01ps3kubuntu: I think kubuntu-restricted-extras should get most of what you need23:01
asdfasdfasdfoh and using adept 3?23:01
asdfasdfasdfkde 3  i mean23:01
flipstari though vlc will come with it own codecs..23:01
ps3kubuntujussi01: how can i install them sudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras ?23:02
jussi01flipstar: oh yeah23:02
jussi01ps3kubuntu: yep23:02
flipstarasdfasdfasdf: systemsetting>language23:02
jussi01!avi | ps3kubuntu23:02
ubotups3kubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:02
asdfasdfasdfflipstar, no workin, nothing in the dropdown list23:02
flipstaryou have to add it23:02
fevelhello23:03
creepshow do i find what version of ubunto ive got?23:03
jussi01hi23:03
jussi01!version | creeps23:03
ubotucreeps: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell23:03
fevelhow can I get hotkeys on the keyboard to work?23:03
asdfasdfasdfthere i did sudo apt-get install kde-l10n-es :D23:03
fevelon a notebook23:03
creepsthnx23:03
ps3kubuntuthanks jussi0123:04
creepsUbuntu 6.06.2 LTS23:04
Dragnslcrfevel- keytouch might do it for you23:04
jussi01:)23:04
creepsthat the 1?23:04
jussi01yeah23:04
jussi01creeps: thats getting old now23:04
holasameone can help me to configure my webcam23:04
creepsyeh just realised23:04
creepsill upgrade soon as i can get round my current problem23:05
creepswhich is much bigger23:05
jussi01creeps: you will probably find upgrading fixes said problem23:05
creepsno i need to get something off my storage drive for my winbdows install23:06
asdfasdfasdfto install aps in kde 4 should can i use adept 3 or ill have to do it using a terminal?23:06
jussi01asdfasdfasdf: for kde4 support please use #kubuntu-kde423:07
asdfasdfasdfsorry didnt know23:07
asdfasdfasdfbye23:07
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Oloughlin75!moblock23:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moblock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:10
Oloughlin75!info moblock23:11
ubotuPackage moblock does not exist in gutsy23:11
Oloughlin75are there any alternatives fro moblock?23:11
mrunagi!universe23:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories23:11
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mrunagihow do i enable universe and multiverse23:12
holaim not able to configure my webcam23:13
mrunagihola: good luck man webcams and kubuntu do not play well23:14
mrunagi!dvd23:14
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs23:14
fevelI cant install kde4 packages adept says it will possibly break system23:14
creepsis there anyway i can upgrade to more recent release?23:14
creeps!upgrade23:15
mrunagiWHY cant knetworkmanager refresh wireless lists =/23:15
MrJigsawwich codecs do i need for kaffeine ?23:16
mrunagi!codec23:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:17
holamrunagi: do you know iin which channel can i ask23:17
mrunagi!webcam | hola23:17
ubotuhola: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras23:17
creepsis there a upgrade from Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS to 7.2023:18
creepsor reinstall of newer version?23:18
Daisuke_Idocreeps: you're better off installing gutsy fresh23:18
creeps7.10*23:18
Daisuke_Idohere's why: you would have to go through the entire upgrade chain23:18
creepsgutsy ?23:18
Daisuke_Idocreeps: 7.10 = gutsy gibbon23:18
creepsahhh cool23:19
edjuI hate showing my ignorance in public, but I can't find a package list at ubuntu.com.  I need the hardy deb for alsa.23:19
MrJigsawmrunagi: that dosent ahelp at all23:19
creepsgeuss ill dl will have trouble when it omes to burning a dvd for it?23:19
Daisuke_Idocreeps: you shouldn't, no23:19
creepsgd gd23:19
Daisuke_IdoMrJigsaw: kubuntu-restricted-extras should do you23:19
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MrJigsawokay23:20
creepsis the amd 64bit version gd?23:20
ps3kubuntuhow can i uninstall ubuntu-restricted-extras ? i installed them accidentally , i m using kubuntu :)23:21
ps3kubuntui will uninstall them and install kubuntus23:21
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Daisuke_Idocreeps: how much ram do you have?  and do you do a LOT of video rendering, things like that?23:22
Daisuke_Idops3kubuntu: won't hurt to keep them23:22
ps3kubuntui did " sudo apt-get remove ubuntu....." is it enough or i must use --purge or something else ?23:22
creepswell i got 2.5 gb usually just use 2gb23:22
Daisuke_Idocreeps: then stick with 32-bit23:23
creepsi would like to get into more video and art work , i just play around at minute need better apps23:23
Daisuke_Idoyou're not going to get enough of a performance increase to justify the headaches :)23:23
creepsok cool23:23
catomannenAnyone had any luck installing ubuntu on a K8 neo 4 mobo? I shure haven't, do i need to give up? buy a new mobo?23:24
creepswill i be able to burn this onto a dvd it looks cd size23:24
Daisuke_Idocreeps: which one?23:25
creeps7.1023:25
phoenixzIs the story on this link something we might find back on the Linux desktop ?  http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/23:25
Daisuke_Idoright, but what's the actual file?23:25
icanhasadminanyone familiar with alsa on SB450 ati hda drivers?23:25
creeps7.10 desktop 695 mb23:25
creepsiso23:26
Daisuke_Idothat's teh cd, yes23:26
Daisuke_Idothere should be a dvd as well23:26
Daisuke_Idoeither one you can burn as an image to a dvd and it won't matter, the only difference is the number of packages included by default on the disc23:26
mhollisjrif I installed Ubuntu, and I install the kubuntu-desktop package, am I going to run into compiz issues? or should it work just fine?23:26
creepspk thanx daisuke23:27
creepsok*23:27
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome23:27
MrUnagianyone have msn crash kopete?23:27
DragnslcrMrUnagi- there are some known issues, yeah23:28
icanhasadminmmm. unagi..23:29
hoisnhi, when i try to install the 4.0.1 packages, the package  kdebase-bin-kde3 will be removed. does that mean that i cant use kde4 alongside with kde3?23:29
Oloughlin75what port does konversation use?23:29
Daisuke_Idothat all depends23:29
icanhasadminOloughlin75: ... i don't think it does?23:29
icanhasadminunless you're sending/receiving files or dccing23:29
DragnslcrOloughlin75- same as any other IRC client, I would assume23:29
Daisuke_Idotypically, irc is port 666723:29
mhollisjrgenerally 6000-7000 but it'll use whatever you tell it too23:29
icanhasadminright, yeah that23:30
Oloughlin75lol icanhasadmin23:30
icanhasadmin:( sorry i'm confused, my sound drivers are still driving me up a wall23:32
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fevelanyone have problems with dependencies installing "kde4" after installing kde4-core23:32
jussi01fevel: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde423:33
creepsdam that msn virus is a strong 123:33
creepsmy mate had it for 2 days now23:33
* icanhasadmin eats his sound card23:35
icanhasadminmaybe if i chew on it...23:35
wsjunioris there any way to do not show kde4 apps in kde3 menu?23:36
kenroIs this appropriate to questions on KDE4?23:45
Dragnslcr#kubuntu-kde4 has better support, I believe23:45
kenro*groan*23:46
Oloughlin75is there a way to avtivley view a log? like if it keeps updating, have the terminal keep updating its view?23:48
DragnslcrIn a shell, tail -f23:49
DragnslcrI believe Kate will also reload a file if it's modified23:49
Oloughlin75Dragnslcr: doesnt seem like it update?23:49
Dragnslcrtail -f will show new text that gets appended to a file23:50
Oloughlin75Dragnslcr: even after the command is run?23:50
DragnslcrYes23:50
Dragnslcr-f, --follow[={name|descriptor}]23:50
Dragnslcroutput appended data as the file grows; -f, --follow, and --follow=descriptor are equivalent23:50
icanhasadminWHY IS ALSA SO CRAPPY23:50
icanhasadminsorry i'm frustrated loll23:50
Oloughlin75woooo i think i set up moblock23:53

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