[00:00] <storbeck> hola, Same errors?
[00:00] <ax1s> Hey I need some info in playing dvds
[00:00] <jussi01> !dvd | ax1s
[00:00] <ubotu> ax1s: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:00] <ax1s> okay i've done that
[00:00] <ax1s> never had a problem
[00:00] <hola> storbeck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56908/
[00:00] <stdin> vlt: did you use -X  or -Y ?
[00:00] <ax1s> still having problems playing certain discs
[00:00] <ax1s> using vlc
[00:01] <ax1s> even tried the libcss2.sh
[00:01] <storbeck> You didn't do the ln in the right directory
[00:01] <storbeck> It still isn't finding config.h
[00:01] <hola> storbeck:lrwxrwxrwx 1 mauri mauri    12 2008-02-22 00:57 config.h -> autoconfig.h
[00:01] <ax1s> I just bought the complete series of Dr Katz
[00:01] <ax1s> and i can't watch it
[00:01] <ax1s> =[
[00:02] <Oloughlin75> is there a linux program thatll convert from wma to mp3?
[00:02] <Hydrogen> !lamp
[00:02] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[00:03] <storbeck> hola, one second
[00:04] <stdin> Oloughlin75: try soundkonverter
[00:04] <nblracer> hey
[00:04] <Oloughlin75> thanks stdin
[00:05] <ax1s> can someone please help me play dvds
[00:05] <ax1s> i can play 99% of them except the ones i just bought
[00:05] <ax1s> the fbi warnings play.. the dvd menus play .. the video starts to play.. then it just stops
[00:05] <nblracer> there is a good link in the wikis
[00:05] <ax1s> on all 13 discs .. on 2 computers
[00:06] <nblracer> oh
[00:06] <ax1s> plays fine in my regular dvd player =[
[00:07] <nblracer> i was on a few weeks ago, looking to get help on setting a up a small ubuntu network, with roming profiles
[00:07] <hola> storbeck: are you there
[00:08] <vlt> stdin: of course.
[00:08] <nblracer> and i cant just mount ther profile on a server
[00:08] <nblracer> since it it will be to slow and flood the network
[00:08] <Oloughlin75> stdin: it looks like soundkonverter only converters TO wma or ogg?
[00:09] <ax1s> just abruptly quits..   vls reports only, "
[00:09] <ax1s> No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[00:09] <ax1s> [00000281] main playlist: nothing to play
[00:09] <ax1s> vlc*
[00:10] <storbeck> hola, one minute
[00:11] <hola> storbeck: ok ok only becouse here is too late
[00:11] <ax1s> libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.10 from http://dvd.sf.net
[00:11] <ax1s> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access
[00:11] <stdin> Oloughlin75: I've never had to convert wma so I'm not sure, I guess you could try soundconverter, it used gstreamer so it has a different backend
[00:12] <Oloughlin75> stdin: it wont convert TO mp3
[00:12] <Oloughlin75> oh nvm
[00:12] <Oloughlin75> !lame
[00:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:13] <Oloughlin75> !find lame
[00:13] <ax1s> libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.10 from http://dvd.sf.net
[00:13] <ax1s> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access
[00:13] <ubotu> Found: flamerobin, flamethrower, glame, libtwolame-dev, libtwolame0 (and 9 others)
[00:13] <ax1s> erp
[00:15] <hola> storbeck: are you there
[00:16] <hola> storbeck: do you think that this cam could work?
[00:16] <ax1s> so whats the deal. .  linux can't play certain dvds
[00:17] <Arwen> which kinds?
[00:17] <Oloughlin75> !wma
[00:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:17] <ax1s> Paramount?
[00:17] <ax1s> 2007
[00:18] <storbeck> hola, hold on
[00:18] <hola> storbeck: ok
[00:18] <hola> tell me what i have to do
[00:21] <ax1s> wow so i just ran through the instructions at the restricted formats page
[00:21] <ax1s> and it installed a shwack of gnome libraries.. and my dvds still quit while playing
[00:22] <ax1s> this is sweet
[00:22] <ax1s> i have been using buntu for years and now this
[00:22] <ax1s> what have I done?
[00:25] <t00na> hey, the latest xine update broke my sound.
[00:25] <hola> storbeck: when do you think to be available
[00:25] <t00na> It won't play anything.
[00:25] <hola> storbeck: it is too late here
[00:25] <ax1s> t00na: see if it broke dvds too
[00:25] <t00na> not even the sound when an error message comes up.
[00:25] <ax1s> my dvd playback quits
[00:26] <t00na> I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy.
[00:26] <ax1s> toona is hardy known to break dvd playback?
[00:26] <ax1s> css etc
[00:26] <t00na> ax1s: I don't know a thing about it.
[00:26] <stdin> hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[00:27] <t00na> All I know that my sound isn't working and it's pissing me off.
[00:27] <ax1s> thx stdin
[00:27] <t00na> Could someone please help?
[00:27] <storbeck> Well, I have to get going
[00:27] <storbeck> But this is your problem.
[00:27] <t00na> Before the update, sound worked, now it doesn't.
[00:28] <hola> storbeck: i dont understand
[00:28] <hola> storbeck: have you to go
[00:28] <ax1s> oh wait
[00:28] <ax1s> i am using gutsy what am i thinking
[00:28] <ax1s> uhg
[00:29] <storbeck> You need to go to your /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/include/linux
[00:29] <storbeck> Then do: sudo ln -s autoconfig.h config.h
[00:29] <storbeck> That will sove the config.h not being found problem
[00:29] <t00na> storbeck: me?
[00:29] <storbeck> But you'll get more errors. So work on those
[00:29] <storbeck> No, hola
[00:29] <hola> storbeck: no what
[00:30] <ax1s> i think my mplayer
[00:30] <ax1s> said something about that
[00:30] <storbeck> Toodles.
[00:30] <ax1s> config.h
[00:30] <storbeck> hola, Hopefully someone else will help you.
[00:30] <ax1s> will this apply to me too? storbeck?
[00:30] <ax1s> ;D
[00:30] <storbeck> idk ax1s. You're welcome to try it
[00:30] <ax1s> thx g .. cya later =] =]
[00:30] <ax1s> -sigh
[00:31] <hola> storbeck: im waited you until now....
[00:36] <Hydrogen> !php
[00:36] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[00:36] <ax1s> seriously wtc
[00:36] <ax1s> wtf
[00:36] <ax1s> the dvds play on my windows machine upstairs
[00:37] <ax1s> right past the parts that make my vplayers crash on buntu
[00:37] <ax1s> this is garbage
[00:37] <ax1s> i am furious
[00:38] <BluesKaj> ax1s, have you got libdvdcss2 , w32codecs, libxine1-ffmpeg installed ?
[00:39] <ax1s> all are the newest version
[00:40] <ax1s> when vlc runs tho it says its using 1.5.2  tho
[00:40] <ax1s> ?
[00:42] <BluesKaj> ax1s, try kaffeine
[00:44] <ax1s> its giving me better output at least, thx BluesKaj
[00:44] <BluesKaj> ax1s, do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:44] <ax1s> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access   ??  only libdvdcss2 was installed?
[00:45] <ax1s> yes
[00:45] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2 is the version you need
[00:45] <ax1s> i only installed libdvdcss2
[00:45] <ax1s> this is queer
[00:46] <BluesKaj> that's it then
[00:46] <Hydrogen> php is definatly misbehaving for me...
[00:46] <Hydrogen> Fatal error: Unknown: Failed opening required '/home/hydrogen/public_html/blahblahblah/index.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[00:46] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2 is for dvd DRM playback
[00:46] <ax1s> yah and i installed that
[00:47] <ax1s> how come every player i have is reported 1.5.2 is installed ?
[00:47] <ax1s> aptitude isn't finding anything except libdvdcss2
[00:47] <stdin> ax1s: have you checked what version libdvdcss2 is?
[00:48] <BluesKaj> ax1s, have you done a sudo apt-get update , since your upgrade ?
[00:48] <ax1s> yes fully upgraded
[00:48] <Hydrogen> is there some trick to making php actually work in foobuntu?
[00:48] <ax1s> stdin:  I'm guessing 1.5.2 ?
[00:48] <ax1s> or whatever i have
[00:49] <BluesKaj> ax1s, just do ' sudo apt-get update ' in the konsole , please
[00:49] <ax1s> i just did again
[00:49] <ax1s> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[00:49] <ax1s> updated/upgraded
[00:50]  * BluesKaj pauses for a cup of tea ....
[00:50] <NickPresta> Hydrogen, try chmod'ing the file to 644. That should fix things up.
[00:51] <ax1s> libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 1.1.7 from http://xine.sf.net
[00:51] <ax1s> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.5 for DVD access
[00:51] <ax1s> libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
[00:51] <ax1s> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[00:51] <ax1s> libdvdnav: vm: faild to open/read the DVD
[00:51] <Daisuke_Ido> root_____: you are either exceptionally brave or exceptionally dumb.  no offense meant, but...  root?
[00:52] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | ax1s
[00:52] <ubotu> ax1s: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:52] <Hydrogen> NickPresta: no.. that creates a whole lot more errors
[00:52] <NickPresta> Hydrogen, apache has to be able to read the file (globally readable).
[00:53] <Hydrogen> NickPresta: I'd believe you if I didn't see the amount of errors grow by a factor of ten when I did that
[00:53] <Jahromeo> hi guys what ram amount does 32 bit kubuntu recognize (4gb max)
[00:53] <Hydrogen> however, I have emperical evidence that that what you said is not true.. so
[00:54] <NickPresta> Hydrogen, the same type of errors? Paste all the new errors you're getting to a pastebin.
[00:55] <Jahromeo> hi guys what ram amount does 32 bit kubuntu recognize (4gb max)?
[00:55] <Jahromeo> and what is the diff between using 64 as opposed to 32 bit other than more ram?
[00:55] <ax1s> Jahromeo:  that's about it
[00:55] <ax1s> other then the y2038
[00:56] <Jahromeo> are 64 bit packages as supported as 32?
[00:56] <ax1s> nope
[00:56] <Jahromeo> e.g. 64 bit win xp has lack of drivers while 32 bit doesnt
[00:56] <BluesKaj> nope
[00:56] <Jahromeo> is it the same with kubuntu/ubuntu
[00:56] <ax1s> 64 bit is lacking
[00:56] <ax1s> you have to use 32 bit java
[00:56] <ax1s> etc
[00:56] <NickPresta> Jahromeo, there are significant problems with Flash (and I believe some with Java)
[00:56] <ax1s> its a pain
[00:56] <Jahromeo> hmmm so is it worth it me running 64 bit? - im running a q6600 - 2.4ghz quad with 4gb ddr2 800
[00:57] <ax1s> not for daily desktop use
[00:57] <Hydrogen> NickPresta: I chased it down.. was a directory elsewhere that didn't have the executable bit set
[00:57] <ax1s> only if you need 64 bit memory mapping for programming/video editing
[00:57] <Jahromeo> damn i just downloaded 64 bit install :(
[00:57] <Jahromeo> my 32 bit disk i got is bust
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Jahromeo: download again :D
[00:57] <BluesKaj> Jahromeo, I switched back to x86
[00:57] <Jahromeo> k - im on 384kbs line :(
[00:57] <Jahromeo> so dling that distro takes some time :P
[00:58] <NickPresta> Hydrogen, ;)
[00:58] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  KAFFEINE WORKS ?!??!
[00:59] <BluesKaj> kaffeine rocks :)
[00:59] <ax1s> BluesKaj: *HUGS*KISS*CREEPYSTARE
[00:59] <ax1s> oh wait
[00:59] <ax1s> i take that all back
[00:59] <ax1s> lol
[00:59] <fidelio> hi. need help with fstab. what is the command to access and write into fat32 partition?
[00:59] <ax1s> the source can't be read.. maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or the source doesn't contain any data
[00:59] <BluesKaj> now now , control yerself
[00:59] <ax1s> awww me
[01:00] <BluesKaj> ax1s, try a non commercial dvd
[01:01] <ax1s> they work
[01:02] <ax1s> also the commercial dvd  plays.. up untill certain points
[01:02] <ax1s> its like my css is not upgraded
[01:02] <ax1s> i'm trying different versions now
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> libdvdcss2
[01:02] <ax1s> yeah which is 1.2.5 which isn't working for this new dvd i just got
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not available in the regular repos, look in !medibuntu
[01:02] <ax1s> yah i have it added thx Daisuke_Ido
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ahh
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i see
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> tried playing it in vlc?
[01:03] <ax1s> *nods
[01:03] <ax1s> menus play
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> movie itself crashes the player?
[01:03] <ax1s> video starts to play.. but at certain locations on each of the 13 dvd set.. it makes the video crash/stop
[01:03] <ax1s> no
[01:03] <ax1s> well
[01:03] <ax1s> the video playback freezes/stops
[01:03] <ax1s> and puts me back to the main program menu
[01:04] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[01:04] <ax1s> it feels like crc errors
[01:04] <ax1s> but the discs play fine in windows/on regular dvd players
[01:04] <ax1s> which would lead me to encryption issues again
[01:05] <ax1s> ahh 1.2.9 is out.. i will try that
[01:06] <ax1s> *crosses fingers
[01:07] <ax1s> damn me
[01:08] <ax1s> how would the css encryption be not as updated as my dvd player tho
[01:08] <fidelio> hi. need help with fstab. what is the command to access and write into fat32 partition?
[01:08] <BluesKaj> !fat32
[01:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[01:08] <ax1s> [00000370] a52 decoder: A/52 channels:2 samplerate:48000 bitrate:192000
[01:08] <ax1s> No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[01:09] <BluesKaj> ax1s, gutsy or hardy
[01:09] <ax1s> BluesKaj:  Gutsy
[01:10]  * BluesKaj is puzzled 
[01:27] <ubuntu_> hello
[01:28] <Dr_willis> Howdies
[01:28] <NickPresta> hi, ubuntu_
[01:28] <ubuntu_> i'm from venezuela
[01:28] <ubuntu_> and you
[01:29] <ax1s> wow
[01:29] <ax1s> it could be my dvd drive
[01:29] <ubuntu_> nickpresta...
[01:54] <khaije1> hi all
[01:54] <khaije1> i'm looking for a disk integrity checker, a/o stress tester, know of any?
[01:56] <khaije1> hmm...chan's quiet tonight
[01:57] <ax1s> khaije1: netsplit
[01:57] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[01:57] <Dr_willis> !info bonnie
[01:57] <ubotu> Package bonnie does not exist in gutsy
[01:57] <Dr_willis> !find bonnie
[01:57] <ubotu> Found: bonnie++
[01:57] <schiste> fsck ?
[01:57] <Dr_willis> !find bonnie++
[01:57] <Dr_willis> !info bonnie++
[01:57] <ubotu> bonnie++ (source: bonnie++): Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.03aubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 144 kB
[01:57] <schiste> khaije1 i'd say fsck
[01:57] <Dr_willis> like that tool?
[02:00] <ax1s> WOW
[02:00] <ax1s> lol
[02:00] <ax1s> dvd playback doesn't work with ubuntu anymore?
[02:00] <ax1s> Goodbye!
[02:00] <ax1s> i will miss you buntu
[02:00] <ax1s> it was a good run
[02:00] <ax1s> back to XP
[02:00] <thechris> vlc
[02:01] <ax1s> doesn't work
[02:01] <thechris> hmm, thats odd
[02:01] <ax1s> you're tellin me
[02:01] <ax1s> =]
[02:01] <thechris> well, there should be somethign that works.  I haven't had to play a dvd in a while
[02:01] <thechris> and i used VLC for that.
[02:01] <ax1s> yah
[02:02] <ax1s> vlc  should play anything
[02:02] <ax1s> brand new  complete series of Dr Katz .. 2007 release
[02:02] <ax1s> plays in old dvd players, windows .. but not any of my 3 nix boxes
[02:02] <ax1s> go figure .. libdvdcss2 fully updated
[02:02] <ax1s> *shakes head
[02:03] <thechris> why i don't like the media industry
[02:03] <thechris> oh, but i only pay $15/mo for phone now
[02:03] <ax1s> =]
[02:03] <thechris> so i feel good about that
[02:03] <ax1s> 25 bucks for 2 months for me
[02:03] <ax1s> hehehe
[02:04] <ax1s> yah man ..  i can't believe how much some ppl pay
[02:04] <ax1s> 1000$ a year is not acceptable
[02:04] <thechris> yeah, i've just stated using skype, and forwarding calls to a prepaid cell phone
[02:04] <ax1s> *nods
[02:04] <ax1s> heheheh
[02:04] <ax1s> pre paid cellie here
[02:04] <thechris> skype just doesn't want to take my money
[02:06] <ax1s> man this is funny.. i'm gonna end up hooking up a dvd player to my video in
[02:06] <ax1s> le sigh
[02:06] <ax1s> i like
[02:06] <ax1s> don't even want to install an old version of buntu to see if that works
[02:06] <ax1s> i'd rather install XP at this point
[02:07] <ax1s> but really i won't
[02:07] <ax1s> i will throw all my computers in the garbage before i do that
[02:07] <thechris> so, a friend of mine has an XP box, and VNC's to a linux box to use firefox to access the web safely from win
[02:07] <ax1s> lol
[02:07] <thechris> really, would work for linux too.
[02:07] <ax1s> ssh tunnel for the vnc connection i hope =]
[02:08] <thechris> well, its on a local network
[02:08] <BluesKaj> why doesn't your friend just put linux on the windoes box ?
[02:09] <ax1s> because then dvdplayback wouldn't work properly
[02:09] <ax1s> :P
[02:09] <thechris> no, its his windows box.  it has no other purpose
[02:09] <thechris> he only uses for the times he needs windows for some reason
[02:10] <ax1s> what's the program for mousing over to different computers
[02:10] <ax1s> via lan
[02:10] <ax1s> synergy
[02:10] <mysterioso> raha
[02:11] <thechris> mwaha
[02:11] <BluesKaj> i'm not ashamed to admit that i dual boot for scanning reasons ...still ahve docs that it and kooka sucks on my HP elcheapo
[02:11] <mysterioso> is there a way to make a terminal window go fullscreen at startup?  it already loads, but will not go fullscreen.
[02:11] <BluesKaj> nneds
[02:11] <BluesKaj> needs
[02:11] <ax1s> mysterioso:  maximize it then save your default profile ?
[02:11] <thechris> mysterioso: is there a command line argument that will do it?
[02:11] <mysterioso> thechris thats what im tryin to figure out
[02:12] <mysterioso> but only if i dont have to type it everytime
[02:12] <mysterioso> i want it to start in fullscreen
[02:12] <ax1s> mysterioso:   maximize a console,  go up to settings, click on Save Default
[02:13] <ax1s> the next time you open it it will be maximized
[02:13] <mysterioso> ax1s ill try it now
[02:13] <mysterioso> brb
[02:13] <ax1s> just worked for me.. good luck
[02:13] <ax1s> =]
[02:14] <mysterioso> ax1s i do not have a "settings" dropdown
[02:14] <ax1s> did you get rid of your top menu bar?
[02:14] <mysterioso> no
[02:15] <ax1s> session/edit/view/boomarks/settings/help
[02:15] <mysterioso> file edit view terminal tabs help
[02:15] <ax1s> konsole ?
[02:15] <mysterioso> oh
[02:15] <mysterioso> no
[02:15] <ax1s> which one are you using
[02:15] <mysterioso> i just got booted from the #ubuntu room
[02:16] <mysterioso> so this is for gnome
[02:16] <ax1s> ahhh
[02:16] <mysterioso> any ideas?
[02:16] <ax1s> what about when you right click on the terminal window
[02:16] <ax1s> any sessions.. or profile section?
[02:16] <mysterioso> change profile edit current profile
[02:17] <ax1s> has to be a *save somewhere
[02:17] <mysterioso> no save
[02:17] <mysterioso> but ill try maximizing then going to edit
[02:17] <mysterioso> then closing
[02:17] <mysterioso> brb
[02:18] <kubuntero> So I have an issue
[02:18] <kubuntero>  can I reset the Winodws MBR with LInux?
[02:18] <mysterioso> didnt work
[02:18] <Dr_willis> kubuntero,  depends  On what version of windows ya got.
[02:18] <ax1s> mysterioso:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-107000.html
[02:19] <Dr_willis> kubuntero,  xp => boot xp cd to rescue mode use 'fdisk /mbr'
[02:19] <kubuntero> Dr_willis: Sounds like a good plan
[02:19] <ax1s> mysterioso:  go to elemtal666 's post
[02:19] <kubuntero> Except it's a restore CD
[02:20] <ax1s> mysterioso: do you want fullscreen or maximized
[02:20] <ax1s> mysterioso:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482203
[02:20] <kubuntero> Dr_willis: Booting the CD gives the option to Format to Factory or Format with your personal backup
[02:22] <kubuntero> I wonder if I could boot from a Windows XP ISO I have
[02:26] <mysterioso> ax1s?
[02:26]  * genii sips a coffee
[02:27] <mysterioso> is there an op in here?
[02:27] <mysterioso> is there an op in the house?
[02:28] <genii> They're around but hidden
[02:28] <mysterioso> i see
[02:29] <mysterioso> well they booted me from #ubuntu
[02:29] <mysterioso> and i just wanted to beg for mercy
[02:29] <kubuntero> This isnt the place
[02:29] <mysterioso> kubuntero are you an op?
[02:29] <kubuntero> And a simple boot should allow you to go back in
[02:29] <mysterioso> banned
[02:29] <kubuntero> mysterioso: no and again this isn't the place
[02:30] <mysterioso> well noone else is talkin
[02:30] <kubuntero> mysterioso: You should be good again in two weeks :-)
[02:30] <mysterioso> 2 WEEKS! he said 2 days
[02:30] <mysterioso> then i said 1 and he said fine
[02:30] <mysterioso> whats this 2 weeks junk?
[02:31] <pauljw> beginning to see why you banned, this is not the place to discuss this
[02:31] <mysterioso> where can I talk about being banned?
[02:31] <mysterioso> #banned
[02:31] <prince_jammys> ha
[02:31] <mysterioso> im gonna make that room
[02:31] <prince_jammys> careful not to get banned
[02:31] <mysterioso> prince_jammys my long lost friend
[02:31] <pauljw> just suck it up, and wait it out
[02:32] <mysterioso> ok one last question
[02:32] <mysterioso> how do i make a room?
[02:32] <prince_jammys> mysterioso: i don't know the answer to your terminal question
[02:32] <prince_jammys> type /j #banned
[02:32] <mysterioso> prince_jammys i kinda got it.
[02:32] <prince_jammys> or click on the channel there
[02:33] <mysterioso> i right clicked the terminal on the panel, and put --geometry 158x75+0+0
[02:33] <mysterioso> in the command
[02:33] <mysterioso> not quite fullscreen though
[02:33] <arrrghhh> so has anyone successfully setup a vpn (pptp...) in kubuntu?  i'm trying this crappy workaround that uses nm-applet (network-manager-gnome) and it's not working out for me at all...
[02:33] <kubuntero> Ahhhm my friend has
[02:33] <kubuntero> Kourse he's not here now
[02:33] <arrrghhh> figures
[02:34] <arrrghhh> did he use nm-applet in conjunction with knetworkmanager?  cuz knetworkmanager doesn't seem to do it out of the box.  it *really* should, but it doesn't...
[02:34] <kubuntero> arrrghhh: No idea. what release of Kubuntu?
[02:35] <arrrghhh> well i've tried gutsy and this machine at home is hardy alpha 4 until betas start... which i hope are soon!
[02:35] <arrrghhh> my laptop and desktop at work are 7.10 tho
[02:36] <AndreSTC> why is stuff being installed in my root directory, not in /home ?
[02:36] <arrrghhh> i really would LOVE to get it working on the lappy at work.  i work in the field all the time and a vpn connection would really be nice.
[02:36] <kubuntero> AndreSTC: How are you installing ?
[02:36] <kubuntero> !vpn
[02:36] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[02:36] <AndreSTC> kubuntero what do you mean ?
[02:36] <arrrghhh> hrm.  i think i've read that, but i'll give it another look over.  thanks.
[02:37] <kubuntero> AndreSTC: How are you installing "stuff?"
[02:37] <genii> AndreSTC: For an explanation of what goes where in linux see: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[02:39] <mysterioso> help
[02:39] <arrrghhh> kubuntero, that is to setup a linux vpn server and have winxp clients connect to it... we have a freebsd box running a pptp (i have no idea why it's not openvpn...) vpn server and i need to connect to that from my linux machines.
[02:39] <mysterioso> !help
[02:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:39] <mysterioso> !channel
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <kubuntero> mysterioso: please talk to the bot in private
[02:44] <ax1s> the DVD playback worked through VLC first try on Feisty
[02:44] <ax1s> go figure
[02:44] <ax1s> i think its 2.6.22 vs 2.6.20
[02:51] <AndreSTC> is there a way to transfer all files from one partition to another? /dev/sda3 to /dev/sda1
[02:52] <mysterioso> kubuntero how do I talk to the bot in private?
[02:52] <vlt> I try to connect to a server via `ssh -X server1`, but $DISPLAY isn't set there, and I can't forward apps to my screen. The same command to server2 works perfectly. xbase-clients is installed on both servers. Any idea what's missing on the first machine?
[02:53] <kubuntero> mysterioso: /msg ubotu question
[02:53] <vlt> mysterioso: /msg ubotu your_question
[02:53] <Dr_willis> AndreSTC,  depending on whats on the filesystems.  You have different things to watch out for.
[02:53] <Dr_willis> AndreSTC,   the basic cp command can do it for most normal files/filesystems
[02:53]  * Arwen is listening to 4′33″ by John Cage on 4′33″ [Amarok]
[02:53] <Arwen> ah, the sound of silence...
[02:53] <AndreSTC> [Dr_willis]: i have just /home directory on sda3, without much stuff(30 mb), nothing important
[02:53] <vlt> AndreSTC: `cp -a` or `rsync -a`
[02:54] <Dr_willis> AndreSTC,  problems canhappen with links and /dev entries and other permissions.   you could just use  mc as the root user, for a nice gui tool/filemanager to copy the things over.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> Mount other place, copy things over..  edit mountpoint to point to the new location
[02:55] <KrayzeeKrystal> anyone know why Adept Installer isn't finding ksynaptics?  I want to configure my mouse keys on my thinkpad
[02:55] <Dr_willis> !info ksynaptics
[02:55] <ubotu> ksynaptics (source: ksynaptics): Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 228 kB, installed size 1156 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[02:55] <AndreSTC> Dr_willis i want to copy the files so i can resize sda1, then i would copy files again to sda3
[02:55] <mysterioso> is there a man page for the irc?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. byee
[02:56] <KrayzeeKrystal> I've tried searching for it and it won't come up... and when I go to Edit Software Sources, Adept Installer has Universe selected.
[02:58] <kubuntero> KrayzeeKrystal: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> KrayzeeKrystal- it should be Settings -> Touch Pad if you're using Adept Installer
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> KrayzeeKrystal- you can also try Adept Manager and search for ksynaptics
[02:59] <KrayzeeKrystal> I'm using 7.10.
[02:59] <KrayzeeKrystal> Drag> That's what I'm trying to do....
[02:59] <KrayzeeKrystal> er... what installer.  ugh
[02:59] <greeneg> hi KrayzeeKrystal
[02:59] <KrayzeeKrystal> 'ello
[03:00] <greeneg> so you''re having issues finding the app you're looking for in adept_manager?
[03:00] <KrayzeeKrystal> Is manager different than installer??
[03:01] <greeneg> adept_manager is the main way to search the package list.
[03:01] <NickPresta> Would anyone who uses QT-Designer like to help me for one minute?
[03:01] <greeneg> adept_installer will only show a select set of packages
[03:01] <kubuntero> KrayzeeKrystal: Press Alt+Space -> type adept -> press enter
[03:01] <MrCloud> I need help with updating Kubuntu.  Can anyone help?  I installed 3 times.
[03:02] <kubuntero> MrCloud: What kind of update?
[03:02] <KrayzeeKrystal> Ooooh... that has a lot more options...
[03:02] <MrCloud> When I try to update, it goes up til it says installing updates, then stops with an error about breaking packages or something, then says there is a version update, then all goes south.
[03:02] <greeneg> KrayzeeKrystal: yes
[03:03] <KrayzeeKrystal> woot... found it, thanks
[03:03] <MrCloud> This is a fresh install.
[03:03] <MrCloud> I didn't do updates this time.
[03:03] <greeneg> it's my preferred way to install stuff on Kubuntu at work
[03:03] <MrCloud> Not without coming here first to get help.
[03:03] <greeneg> KrayzeeKrystal: np :)
[03:03] <kubuntero> !katapult
[03:03] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:03]  * kubuntero hugs alt+Space 
[03:04] <KrayzeeKrystal> One of my coworkers has been going on about katapult...
[03:04] <MrCloud> There is an icon by the clock that says there is updates available.
[03:04] <kubuntero> KrayzeeKrystal: It's nice could be better but insanely addictive
[03:04] <KrayzeeKrystal> I'm still not to sure 'bout it
[03:04] <MrCloud> 153 updated packages available.
[03:04] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Do you have adept open ?
[03:04] <KrayzeeKrystal> But I suppose it'll likely grow on me
[03:04] <MrCloud> No.
[03:05] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Good Click the little orange Box
[03:05] <MrCloud> I haven't done nothing but come here after installing
[03:05] <greeneg> KrayzeeKrystal: think of katapult like Quicksilver on Mac OS X, or QuickLaunch on Windows
[03:05] <MrCloud> Loaded Adept Updater
[03:05] <KrayzeeKrystal> Neither of which I've used. ;)
[03:05] <greeneg> KrayzeeKrystal: ah
[03:05] <MrCloud> Welcome to Adept Updater
[03:06] <greeneg> they simplify launching stuff sooo much
[03:06] <KrayzeeKrystal> hmmm... afk
[03:06] <greeneg> since the menu can be a pain to navigate at times :P
[03:06] <kubuntero> MrCloud: It's wizard. Pretty easy to follow after that
[03:07] <MrCloud> I do follow that, but there is where the problem is.  After doing all the downloading, it starts the install and crashes with an error, then it says there is a version update.
[03:07] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Ah Hmm
[03:07] <MrCloud> When I tell it okay on the version update it crashes saying the packager is already running.
[03:07] <kubuntero> !adept crash fix
[03:07] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:08] <kubuntero> MrCloud: ^^^
[03:08] <MrCloud> OKay I will try that when it crashes.
[03:10] <MrCloud> Just for your info, I installed from a Kubuntu Linux 7.10 DVD that I downloaded and did a CD check before installing.
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[03:11] <kubuntero> MrCloud: I have no doubt the install was fine. Just that installing packages is a tricky magic and installing a whole bunch at one time is feat of balance many would faint at
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> you installed 7.10
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> why are you doing a version upgrade?
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> just saying
[03:12] <kubuntero> Daisuke_Ido: Update not upgrade
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> still a version update
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> it's apparently either the existing adept bug, or it's trying to go to hardy
[03:12] <MrCloud> After the update, it tells me there is a version upgrade available.
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> ignore it either way.
[03:12] <kubuntero> Daisuke_Ido: Nope update. There is a bug in the updated Adept package that sasythere is an upgrade
[03:12] <kubuntero>  Really there isn't
[03:12] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly
[03:13] <MrCloud> So there is no version upgrade?
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> just to hardy
[03:13] <MrCloud> Why is it telling me there is?
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and you don't want to do that yet
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> not for a couple months at least
[03:13] <MrCloud> OKay.
[03:13] <MrCloud> I am new to this stuff.
[03:13] <Daisuke_Ido> no worries
[03:13] <MrCloud> I am used to Windows 9x.  lol
[03:13] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Do you still have the orange box in the tray saying you have updates?
[03:14] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Welcome :)
[03:14] <MrCloud> Yes, and its downloading updates while I chat.
[03:14] <MrCloud> 88%
[03:14] <evilbug> i need someone to help me set up wireless on my 2g macbook pro.
[03:15] <MrCloud> Preparing updates now.
[03:15] <MrCloud> Here is where it crashes with error.  I will post it.
[03:15] <kubuntero> !paste | MrCloud
[03:15] <ubotu> MrCloud: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:16] <MrCloud> Thank you.
[03:16] <MrCloud> Don't need to cause problems.
[03:16] <ax1s> This dvd works on my laptop/fiesty/vlc but not with ANY program on this machine with gutsy .. any ideas?
[03:16] <ax1s> non dvdcss2 related
[03:16] <evilbug> i already installed everything using a tutorial,it's just that when i try to connect it'll ask me for the network key a couple of times and then doesn't connect at all.
[03:17] <evilbug> it actually showed the signal bars for a little while (which i assume meant it connected) but the internet still would not work.
[03:17] <MrCloud> Might actually work this time
[03:17] <genii> ax1s: I generally like the xine backend over the gstreamer one. For instance you can have amarok-gstreamer or amarok-xine, I find xine backend better
[03:18] <ax1s> genii:  I was using mplayer and vlc ... same issues with xine
[03:18] <MrCloud> 50%
[03:18] <genii> ax1s: kaffeine work?
[03:18] <ax1s> same issues
[03:19] <ax1s> it plays up until a certain point
[03:19] <genii> ax1s: Could be a streaming issue
[03:19] <KrayzeeKrystal> Sorry 'bout disappearing.  The joys of being a mommy.
[03:19] <greeneg> KrayzeeKrystal: np, np
[03:19] <greeneg> :)
[03:19] <kubuntero> KrayzeeKrystal: Congrats :)
[03:19] <ax1s> genii: even tried lindvd .. still pauses at the same location
[03:19] <genii> ax1s: Playing an iso file or disc in the dvd drive?
[03:19] <ax1s> dvd disc
[03:19] <kubuntero> KrayzeeKrystal: You may want to look at kde-edu :)
[03:19] <ax1s> genii: region 1 ..  my region is set to 1 as well
[03:20] <KrayzeeKrystal> She's a bit young for that yet.  Only 9 months
[03:20] <kubuntero> KrayzeeKrystal: you wouldn't let her use something you haven't tested would you? :)
[03:20] <greeneg> kubuntero: her daughter is far too young yet to touch the nice new ThinkPad :P
[03:20] <genii> ax1s: The same point is almost all through the movie? eg: about 4Gb into 4.7Gb ?
[03:20] <KrayzeeKrystal> Ku> True, true.
[03:20] <kubuntero> plus you would be surprised at how engaging some of the apps can be for that age
[03:20]  * KrayzeeKrystal grin
[03:20] <ax1s> genii:  Nah.. I have the Dr Katz complete series..  and its 1:07 into the first episode
[03:21] <KrayzeeKrystal> Yes, well.  Mommy's new dev box.  Mommy's.
[03:21] <MrCloud> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[03:21] <greeneg> lol
[03:21] <MrCloud> 60% complete
[03:21] <ax1s> genii: This is happening on 2 gutsy machines.. but it works fine on my fiesty machine
[03:21] <MrCloud> What do I do now?
[03:21] <kubuntero> Daisuke_Ido: dpkg -f install ?
[03:21] <kubuntero> MrCloud: is it closed ?
[03:21] <genii> ax1s: Hmmm. No other immediate ideas come to mind then
[03:21] <kubuntero> or it crashed ?
[03:21] <MrCloud> No, I left it alone when the error occured.
[03:22] <MrCloud> Do I click on okay?
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntero: couldn't hurt
[03:22] <KrayzeeKrystal> Hrm... now to find ksynaptics...  I believe I installed it....
[03:22] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Sure
[03:23] <MrCloud> It said Complete, now says there is a new distribution version is available
[03:23] <MrCloud> Click next if you want to upgrade now
[03:23] <ax1s> genii: does dvdnav demuxer warning: cannot get next block give you any hint?
[03:23] <MrCloud> I clicked on quit.
[03:23] <greeneg> KrayzeeKrystal: look in the System Settings app found in the kmenu
[03:24] <genii> ax1s: offhand looks like perhaps the audio stream has a bad sector or so
[03:24] <ax1s> genii: That is exactly what i am *feeling
[03:24] <ax1s> genii: but it works in my laptop with feisty and on  a regular dvd player
[03:24] <ax1s> lol
[03:24] <ax1s> could it be my drive?
[03:24] <ax1s> i don't see how
[03:24] <kubuntero> MrCloud: open  a konsole and type sudo dpkg -f install
[03:25] <KrayzeeKrystal> Can't find it... I can't katapult to it either...  and if I try to search on the System Settings window it doesn't find anything
[03:25] <genii> ax1s: Perhaps. The Mitsumi ones in particular are bad that way
[03:25] <KrayzeeKrystal> But Adept manager says it's installed
[03:25] <MrCloud> Okay.
[03:25] <ax1s> genii: I have a benQ in here.. but wow that is odd
[03:25] <ax1s> genii: thx for your help too btw
[03:25] <genii> ax1s: PErhaps try an external usb one on same box
[03:25] <genii> bah capslock
[03:26] <ax1s> genii good call
[03:27] <MrCloud> Didn't work, but the first sudo did work.
[03:27] <kubuntero> KrayzeeKrystal: try syndock
[03:27] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Sorry what does that mean?
[03:27] <MrCloud> Its done.
[03:27] <MrCloud>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:27] <MrCloud> I did that and it worked
[03:28] <kubuntero> Ah right
[03:28] <greeneg> hrm, can you open kcontrol then? it should be in there under Peripherals iirc
[03:28] <MrCloud> sudo dpkg -f install gave an error
[03:28] <kubuntero> ah what error?
[03:28] <MrCloud> dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `install': No such file or directory
[03:28] <genii> MrCloud: I think you may need -a with that
[03:28] <MrCloud> oh.
[03:28] <greeneg> gotta remember, I don't have kubuntu installed here on this machine, so I have to remember what I have to do at work.... :P
[03:29] <ax1s> [00000301] cdda access error: could not read block 136 from disc
[03:29] <ax1s> LOL
[03:29] <kubuntero> genii: -a == all ?
[03:29] <genii> kubuntero: yes
[03:29] <MrCloud> Lets see if add/remove will work now.
[03:29] <MrCloud> I have a quick question.  Can I install RPM files in Kubuntu?
[03:29] <kubuntero> !rpm
[03:29] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:30] <genii> ax1s: I think you got a bum disc then that will only play on better drives with eror correction
[03:30] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Always best to check if you can get it from the repo
[03:30] <MrCloud> Well, so much for that idea.  I appreciate it.
[03:30] <MrCloud> The program I want to use is vmware workstation.
[03:30] <KrayzeeKrystal> Ku> syndock, hmm?  ok.
[03:30] <ax1s> genii:  brand new 13 disc set, happens on each disc
[03:30] <MrCloud> virtual box is a mess.
[03:30] <ax1s> genii: brand new from chapters/indgo
[03:30] <ax1s> genii: i think you are half right
[03:31] <ax1s> genii: maybe not bum disc but bum new method of control
[03:31] <kubuntero> !vmware
[03:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:31] <genii> ax1s: Hmm. Might be some audio codec then
[03:31] <kubuntero> MrCloud: You can apt-get it
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> not workstation you can't.
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> player and server, yes
[03:31] <MrCloud> I will try that.  Thank you.
[03:31] <kubuntero> Oh? which one is workstation ?
[03:31] <genii> ax1s: If you choose some other language stream, halts same point?
[03:31] <MrCloud> Would be nice to use my old 98 stuff in Linux.
[03:31] <kubuntero> It's not in the commercial repo ?
[03:31] <kubuntero> !wine
[03:31] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:32] <MrCloud> If it likes programs for as old as 3.1/95, I bet I can use that.  lol
[03:32] <khaije> is there a hdd integrity checker for linux. i know fdisk does filesystem stuff, but is there anything for the actually physical disk?
[03:32] <MrCloud> Off to check out that website.
[03:33] <genii> khaije: fsck
[03:33] <kubuntero> MrCloud: Lets say that Linux has better backwards compatibilty with Windows Programs than WIndows does
[03:33] <MrCloud> Sweet.
[03:33] <kubuntero> genii: Wouldn't that be badblocks ?
[03:33] <MrCloud> Linux just might have a home.  lol
[03:33] <kubuntero> fsck is file system
[03:34] <kubuntero> !info ms-sys
[03:34] <ubotu> ms-sys (source: ms-sys): Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[03:34] <kubuntero> Hmm
[03:34] <genii> kubuntero: If your hd is going bad fsck will mark failing areas as bad and not use them. You can also install the SMART monitoring tools if your hd supports that feature. Other than that there may be some manufacturer specific lowlevel checking tool on the Ultimate Boot CD for your drive.
[03:35] <kubuntero> khaije: so fsck, badblocks, smartmontools (may have to install) and manufactureres tools
[03:36] <kubuntero> I really hope that hard drive manufacturers start having the tools as isos
[03:36] <ax1s> BRB
[03:36] <kubuntero> Having them as windows apps is really annoying
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntero: i know seagate offers an iso
[03:36] <Daisuke_Ido> or at least, i found them in iso format somewhere, because i know i've used them that way
[03:38] <jimmy51> hello, could anyone walk me through installing a patch recently posted to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/151867
[03:38] <kubuntero> I know I hope all of them start doing that
[03:39] <genii> kubuntero: I saw just now I sent you a msg for khaije, apologies :)
[03:40] <kubuntero> genii: no problem I asked you a question
[03:40] <genii> khaije: Originally meant for you: If your hd is going bad fsck will mark failing areas as bad and not use them. You can also install the SMART monitoring tools if your hd supports that feature. Other than that there may be some manufacturer specific lowlevel checking tool on the Ultimate Boot CD for your drive.
[03:43] <jimmy51> they've posted the patch and a tar file, but I don't know how to install it
[03:44] <Oloughlin75> wiah i was in ubuntu and didnt notice for like an hour
[03:46] <Warhammer39m> salut tlm
[03:47] <kubuntero> The brown didn't tip you off?
[03:48] <Oloughlin75> #ubuntu
[03:53] <khaije> genii: i'll give that a shot, smartmontools is a beast to work with, it's really a monster, don't call me soft but I wish it had a gui
[03:57] <marcus_aurelius> has anybody gotten sun java5 to work with firefox?  i'm running 64-bit kubuntu 7.10, firefox works great, but plugins are a constant headache
[03:59] <storbeck> marcus_aurelius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:01] <mneptok> marcus_aurelius: there is no 64 bit Java plugin from Sun
[04:02] <marcus_aurelius> storbeck: okay, but it has to be java5, not java7
[04:02] <Arwen> Java 7? living in the future, are we?
[04:02] <kubuntero> Shhhhh
[04:02] <storbeck> Why does it have to be java5?
[04:03] <marcus_aurelius> because the vpn client i need to connect with says it needs java5
[04:04] <mneptok> marcus_aurelius: **** there is no 64 bit Java plugin from Sun ****
[04:04] <mneptok> none. not Java5. not Java6.
[04:05] <marcus_aurelius> mneptok: yes, but there is ia32-sun-java5-bin
[04:05] <mneptok> ia32 != AMD64
[04:05] <Oloughlin75> marcus_aurelius, i believe you can install 32bit firefox and use the sun plugin
[04:06] <mneptok> java5-bin != java5-plugin
[04:06] <mneptok> marcus_aurelius: Oloughlin75 is right. you either install a chrooted 32 bit Firefox, use nspluginwrapper and hope that works, or install a 32 bit Ubuntu
[04:07] <ax1s> genii:  external USB drive worked %)
[04:07] <ax1s> genii:  Tis this dvd drive.
[04:07] <ax1s> genii: er that was the problem... thankyou for your troubleshootin sk1llz
[04:07] <genii> ax1s: Well, at least now you know
[04:07] <ax1s> oh man i was going insane
[04:08] <genii> ax1s: :) np, glad to have helped
[04:08] <ax1s> *lol's
[04:08] <ax1s> huge
[04:08] <marcus_aurelius> firefox version is 2.0.0.12+2nobinonly+2-0ub
[04:08] <kubuntero> genii: Let me get this straight. If i have NTFS support installed that doesn't mean that an application can safely write to NTFS ?
[04:08] <ax1s>  I LOVE YOU ALL .. for now.. ;D ..
[04:08] <ax1s> genii:   Thanks again
[04:09] <Oloughlin75> kubuntero, it should
[04:09] <Oloughlin75> kubuntero, mine do
[04:10] <genii> kubuntero: the fuse ntfs driver is pretty safe.
[04:10] <kubuntero> well ms-sys in particular
[04:11] <Oloughlin75> ms-sys? kubuntero
[04:11] <kubuntero> !info ms-sys
[04:11] <ubotu> ms-sys (source: ms-sys): Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[04:12] <mneptok> if you look directly at any Vista product packaging, a Microsoft bootloader will be installed on every computer you have ever owned.
[04:13] <kubuntero> That's wonderful I just need to reinstall one now
[04:13] <kubuntero> I have a restore CD which doesn't give me an option to repair. Simply to format and return to Factory install
[04:13] <Oloughlin75> kubuntero, no recovery console?
[04:13] <Oloughlin75> this is a #windows discussion though
[04:14] <kubuntero> Can't get to one
[04:14] <Oloughlin75> and use grub anyway
[04:14] <kubuntero> I'm there as well
[04:14] <kubuntero> Hmm
[04:14] <kubuntero> Gimmie a second
[04:15] <kubuntero> I have a error 22
[04:16]  * Arwen just got flamed for suggesting not using AV in ##windows. Ignorant fools.
[04:16] <Oloughlin75> kubuntero, go into bios and make sure the floppy drives inst in the boot order
[04:17] <Rukus> anyone know a good tutorial to install compiz for kubuntu? ATI card using aiglx
[04:17] <kubuntero> laptop no floppy
[04:17] <kubuntero> Arwen: Horrible advice
[04:17] <kubuntero> I've caught two viruses in Vista and I don't even use it that much
[04:18] <prince_jammys> heh, making friends over there in windows
[04:18] <storbeck> Rukus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263210
[04:18] <prince_jammys> i was just watching the madness at #ubuntu
[04:18] <Rukus> thanks
[04:18] <Rukus> i'll havea look
[04:19] <Arwen> kubuntero, then you were using it wrong
[04:19] <Arwen> that's actually very good advice
[04:19] <Arwen> most of the "OMG, WINDOWS IS SLOW" complaints are because of AV
[04:19] <Oloughlin75> kubuntero, try puting in like an audio cd, or other non bootbale cd and turning on your computer
[04:19] <Oloughlin75> and see if you can boot
[04:19] <Rukus> ok that link doesnt work
[04:19] <kubuntero> Arwen: Totally agree. however it's too easy to catch something unwanted
[04:19] <storbeck> It doesn't work?
[04:19] <kubuntero> Oloughlin75: can't
[04:20] <Rukus> works, not right info
[04:20] <prince_jammys> !compiz | Rukus
[04:20] <ubotu> Rukus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:20] <kubuntero> Apparently he blew away the Linux parition with /boot
[04:20] <Arwen> kubuntero, actually not really, just takes some common sense and good security practice. But we're digressing.
[04:20] <Rukus> wait
[04:20] <Rukus> typo
[04:20] <Rukus> maybe worked now
[04:20] <storbeck> How is it not the right info?
[04:20] <Rukus> lol
[04:20] <Rukus> sorry
[04:20] <storbeck> Ah
[04:20] <mneptok> Rukus: i'll save you the pain and tell you the eye candy is not worth the road of suffering you have just started walking.
[04:20] <Rukus> um
[04:21] <Rukus> man, i dont know what everyones problem is with this
[04:21] <Rukus> i have had no problem using eye candy before
[04:21] <storbeck> To extent to my eyecandy is kxdocker
[04:21] <mneptok> Rukus: one word. ATi.
[04:21] <Rukus> or making xgl work
[04:21] <Oloughlin75> Rukus, with what? compiz?
[04:21] <Rukus> or iaglx work
[04:21] <Rukus> aiglx
[04:21] <Oloughlin75> o
[04:21] <Rukus> and i have an xpress 200m
[04:21] <prince_jammys> are you kidding, linux is all about wobbly windows
[04:21] <storbeck> *laughs*
[04:21] <mneptok> so let's see how you do with fglrx
[04:21] <Rukus> man, its easy
[04:21] <Rukus> me?
[04:21] <Oloughlin75> cubes prince_jammys , cubes
[04:21] <Rukus> wait
[04:21] <mneptok> yes, you. :)
[04:21] <prince_jammys> oh yeah the cube
[04:22] <prince_jammys> wobbly cube
[04:22] <Rukus> jared@alkasmolik:~$ fglrxinfo
[04:22] <Rukus> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:22] <Rukus> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[04:22] <Rukus> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
[04:22] <Rukus> OpenGL version string: 2.1.7281 Release
[04:22] <Rukus> err
[04:22] <prince_jammys> spherical desktop
[04:22] <Oloughlin75> so useless
[04:22] <storbeck> wobbly windows sounds funnier though.
[04:22] <storbeck> That should be the new linux slogan. :D
[04:22] <storbeck> If you don't have wobbly windows, you don't have linux.
[04:22] <prince_jammys> Ubuntu : "Linux for wobbly windows"
[04:23] <Oloughlin75> that makes its user sound "wobbly"
[04:23] <Rukus> display: :0  screen: 0
[04:23] <Rukus> direct rendering: Ye
[04:23] <kubuntero> So I was looking at a Linux way to reset the MBR
[04:23] <Rukus> yes*
[04:23] <Rukus> man
[04:23] <Rukus> works great
[04:23] <kubuntero> ms-sys looks like it
[04:23] <Rukus> i dont get the fuss
[04:23] <mneptok> Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning, "Maybe the cool kids at my high school will stop picking on me if I can get Compiz working."
[04:23] <kubuntero> except it says FAT16 and FAT32 so I'm loathe to use it on NTFS
[04:23] <Rukus> i got it workin
[04:23] <Rukus> woot
[04:24] <Rukus> before
[04:24] <storbeck> Rukus, well, not everyone takes out of their time to come in chat and ask a question.
[04:24] <prince_jammys> just jokes, no fuss
[04:24] <Rukus> just playing again
[04:25] <storbeck> intelikey: You're running IRC via root?
[04:25] <intelikey> no
[04:25] <storbeck> Hrm
[04:25] <Rukus> lol
[04:25] <Rukus> i used to run irc from root on my shell
[04:25] <Rukus> haha
[04:25] <Oloughlin75> intelikey, ms didnt make you work in windows?
[04:26] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 heh. no
[04:26] <Oloughlin75> that seems weird
[04:26] <prince_jammys> ah, slow scrolling.. #ubuntu was about to give me a seizure
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys, me too
[04:27] <prince_jammys> how can i print an mp3?
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys, i was in ubuntu for like an hour without relizing it
[04:27] <Rukus> is that like the definitive source to instal cpmpiz? there is so many tutorials. and well, i use those, yes i do.
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> !compiz | Rukus
[04:27] <ubotu> Rukus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> thats the one Rukus
[04:27] <Rukus> thanks
[04:28] <Rukus> perfect
[04:28] <Arwen> prince_jammys, print an MP3?
[04:28] <prince_jammys> Arwen: #ubuntu style question
[04:29] <Arwen> hehe
[04:29] <Arwen> #ubuntu causes brain cancer
[04:29] <intelikey> :)
[04:29] <prince_jammys> how can i deny write access to my home dir?
[04:29] <Oloughlin75> its the same as this, all the same question, but ~20x faster
[04:29] <Arwen> prince_jammys, chmod a-w ~ -R
[04:30] <Arwen> or without -R if you don't want it recursive
[04:30] <prince_jammys> thx
[04:30] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys, uhh, why?
[04:30] <prince_jammys> sorry, joke questions
[04:30] <intelikey> maybe not cancer but gasious expulsion of crainal processies
[04:30] <kubuntero> Should I trust ms-sys on NTFS?
[04:30] <Oloughlin75> i like the reading practice
[04:30] <prince_jammys> though that one came up on #ubuntu
[04:32] <Oloughlin75> windows fonts are making my eyes tired
[04:32] <Arwen> kubuntero, you don't use it on NTFS
[04:32] <Arwen> it will b0rk it
[04:32] <Arwen> it's only for making bootable DOS partitions
[04:33] <kubuntero> Thanks thats all I wanted to hear
[04:33] <zeke> is there any way to make my system tray clock sync itself to my bios clock?
[04:34] <intelikey> zeke hwclock --sync hwtosys      i think
[04:34] <intelikey> better check the syntax
[04:34] <zeke> I'll give it a try
[04:35] <zeke> many thanks...I've been doing the dual boot thingus, and the clocks in both OSs are always wrong unless I have internet access
[04:35] <intelikey> there is bidirrectional syncing capabilities  systohw and hwtosys
[04:36] <intelikey> or maybe it's hc in place of hw   idk
[04:36] <Oloughlin75> hw makes more sense to me :/
[04:37] <Oloughlin75> otherwise its be like sysc
[04:37] <Oloughlin75> itd*
[04:37] <intelikey> hwclock --systohc       hwclock --hctosys
[04:37] <zeke> yeah...hwclock gives me some --help options
[04:37] <intelikey> it's hc   hardware clock
[04:37] <intelikey> zeke man man     also
[04:38] <Oloughlin75> !man
[04:38] <zeke> will do
[04:38] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:38] <prince_jammys> man man | grep man >man
[04:38] <Oloughlin75> i keep wanting to open a console
[04:38] <intelikey> prince_jammys to what purpose ?
[04:38] <MrJoey> Can the iBook Clamshell use the synaptic mouse driver like the other iBooks?  I want to enable scrolling and all that neat stuff
[04:39] <prince_jammys> sorry i just need to go to bed now
[04:39] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 you can.    openvt -wfc 12
[04:39] <Oloughlin75> intelikey, <-- windows
[04:39] <zeke> thanks intelikey
[04:39] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 you can't !
[04:40] <intelikey> welcome zeke
[04:40]  * intelikey throws rocks at Oloughlin75 
[04:40] <Oloughlin75> intelikey, its only for 12 hours
[04:40] <Oloughlin75> intelikey, its much easier to conver wmas in windows :/
[04:41] <Oloughlin75> convert
[04:41] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 well we'll let you by with it this time.
[04:41] <intelikey> someone can answer MrJoey
[04:42] <Oloughlin75> i dont really like apple :/ i dont know
[04:42] <MrJoey> Well, it's a hand-me-down computer, so it's fine for me :)
[04:43]  * intelikey doesn't own a hackentosh, they're to heckspesive
[04:43] <MrJoey> True that
[04:49] <root_____> hola
[04:49] <Oloughlin75> hola root_____
[04:49] <root_____> disculapen quien me puede ayudar
[04:50] <prince_jammys> !es | root_____
[04:50] <ubotu> root_____: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:50] <Oloughlin75> !es | root_____
[04:50] <root_____> hola
[04:50] <intelikey> woops.  i now have a blue bar across the bottome of tty2 that i can't get rid of...
[04:50] <root_____> ah ok
[04:50] <root_____> pero es q nose como moverme en este sistema operativo
[04:50] <intelikey> oh wait.  changing ttys cleared it up
[04:51] <prince_jammys> root_____: teclea /j #ubuntu-es
[04:51] <karllenz> hey i have a belkin wireless g usb adapter that works fine outa the box using ubuntu but will not work with kubuntu what are the steps i have to take to get it to work??
[04:51] <prince_jammys> root_____: y te conecta
[04:52] <Oloughlin75> root_____, vaya al soporitvo del #ubuntu-es por ayuda es esa idioma
[04:52] <Oloughlin75> wow my spansih is awful
[04:52] <prince_jammys> not really
[04:53] <prince_jammys> en ese idioma
[04:53] <prince_jammys> idioma is one of them feminine looking masculine words
[04:53] <Oloughlin75> should be para ayuda too, and idioma is feminine right?
[04:53] <Oloughlin75> nope
[04:53] <Oloughlin75> alright
[04:53] <prince_jammys> el idioma
[04:53] <prince_jammys> el sistema, that sort of thang
[04:54] <Oloughlin75> la radio ;)
[04:54] <intelikey> lechi la bacca     and be quiet.
[04:54] <Oloughlin75> karllenz, it -should- work, but you could try ndiswrapper
[04:55] <bobito> Hey ya'll, I can't find a folder I swore was on this external.  Whats the command to find the folder?  (not case sensitive?)
[04:55] <Oloughlin75> and whats the supposed to mean intelikey
[04:55] <karllenz> well i just ran the kubuntu 7.04 live cd and it works strange??
[04:55] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 probably not spelled correctly   but   milk the cow.
[04:55] <karllenz> the news live cd it doesnt work
[04:55] <prince_jammys> find /the/path -iname 'thename'
[04:55] <bobito> ty
[04:55] <Oloughlin75> idk my animals in spanish
[04:56] <Oloughlin75> lechi isnt the right form though for the imperitive
[04:56] <prince_jammys> spanish is my first language but after many years of english, i struggle
[04:56] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys, still learning ;)
[04:56] <prince_jammys> lechi aint a spanish word that i know
[04:56] <karllenz> my other problem is everytime i put my ati vidio card into my pc along with my nvidia card ubuntu and kubuntu freak out and put me into a comande line at boot
[04:57] <karllenz> ati card is the visiontek x1550
[04:57] <Oloughlin75> karllenz, i dont think any OS supports two cards, one from ati and the other nvidia
[04:58] <karllenz> well even if i just have the ati card in my pc same thing happens
[04:58] <intelikey> may i say that it's     no OS has drivers that are compatable for both nv and ati togather
[04:58] <Oloughlin75> karllenz, you need to modify the xorg.conf
[04:58] <intelikey> unless you want to use the vesa
[04:58] <karllenz> well i cant even get into the os to do that
[04:59] <karllenz> and idk how to do it at the comandline level
[04:59] <intelikey> sure you can
[04:59] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:59] <karllenz> ok then it should be able to use my ati card
[05:00] <karllenz> its ust the one comande
[05:00] <intelikey> if it's installed when you do that and you select the driver for it.      but i still think i would use the vesa driver until you get setteled which card is going to be in there
[05:00] <Oloughlin75> karllenz, itll walk you through a bunch of prompts
[05:00] <karllenz> im sry still trying to learn linux
[05:01] <karllenz> id really like the ati card fully functional
[05:01] <intelikey> the vesa driver should work with either/both cards
[05:01] <karllenz> i had no problems installing the restricted drivers for nvidia real easy it was great
[05:01] <intelikey> karllenz you and every one else that owns one.
 id really like the ati card fully functional  <intelikey> karllenz you and every one else that owns one.
[05:02] <karllenz> but i got a newer ati card with tv out that id really like to use
[05:02] <Oloughlin75> intelikey, has amd brought any change to ati?
[05:02] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 not visable yet.
[05:03] <karllenz> anyone try out lmce im installing kubuntu now for it
[05:04]  * intelikey needs an scronym dictionary
[05:04] <intelikey>          a
[05:04] <Oloughlin75> dictionary.com has acronyms
[05:05] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 so how do you down load it ?
[05:05] <Oloughlin75> you dont? :)
[05:05] <intelikey> i didn't say i was looking for an online service,  now did i
[05:05] <Oloughlin75> you didnt say you werent, did you?
[05:05] <prince_jammys> wget
[05:06] <prince_jammys> and wait a bit
[05:06] <intelikey> prince_jammys that will only get the main page
[05:06] <prince_jammys> no, you can set it up to keep going
[05:06] <intelikey> -R ?
[05:06] <prince_jammys> no
[05:06] <prince_jammys> that would be nice
[05:07] <prince_jammys> there's a ton of options, i don't remember
[05:07] <prince_jammys> but you can download an entire site
[05:07] <intelikey> yeah recursion doesn't do php tho
[05:07] <kubuntero> With a proxy I bet it would )
[05:08] <Oloughlin75> :/
[05:08] <prince_jammys> and it can relink everything locally
[05:08] <prince_jammys> wget is hot
[05:08] <Oloughlin75> !wget
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <intelikey> curl probably could too
[05:08] <prince_jammys> !info wget
[05:08] <ubotu> wget (source: wget): retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 233 kB, installed size 1924 kB
[05:08] <intelikey> !info curl
[05:08] <ubotu> curl (source: curl): Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS or FTP server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.16.4-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 170 kB, installed size 284 kB
[05:09] <prince_jammys> you have it already
[05:09] <intelikey> yes and wget too
[05:09] <intelikey> i think i installed wget
[05:09] <intelikey> maybe i'll check
[05:09] <intelikey> yeah i did.
[05:10] <prince_jammys> it comes with install
[05:10] <intelikey> not my install
[05:10] <prince_jammys> oh
[05:10] <prince_jammys> you did a minimal/server install?
[05:10] <intelikey> no not even
[05:10] <intelikey> i did a custom minimal
[05:10] <prince_jammys> ah nice
[05:11] <intelikey> i did finnally compile and install bash   though.
[05:11] <prince_jammys> you know, -r may even be the option
[05:12] <prince_jammys> indeed it is
[05:12] <intelikey> well imagen that.
[05:12] <intelikey> :)\
[05:12] <prince_jammys> you specify -r and you can control the level
[05:14]  * intelikey serfes web with wget http://www.something.com | html2txt | less
[05:14] <prince_jammys> ha
[05:14] <Oloughlin75> uhhh, diaalup?
[05:14] <kubuntero> intelikey: orisinal.com :)
[05:14] <intelikey> Oloughlin75 yeah.
[05:14] <default_op> a lamer quesiton.  does hosts.deny and hosts.allow defualt to blocking?  Do I need to edit these on new install to allow connections to smtp/pop ports?
[05:15] <intelikey> no they default to allowing
[05:15] <default_op> intelikey: thx
[05:15] <intelikey> np
[05:16] <intelikey> echo   the text editor of *?
[05:16] <kubuntero> default_op: It reads deny then allow
[05:16] <kubuntero> So allow can override deny
[05:16] <intelikey> kubuntero but both default to blank
[05:16] <kubuntero> true
[05:17] <default_op> intelikey: just having problems setting up smtp/pop access.  using localhost.localdomain as the domain name but having problems with reading service with evolution or kmail.  what is the default username for Courier or Postfix?
[05:17] <kubuntero> default_op: default to block would mean you couldn't IRC to ask us if it defaulted :)
[05:18] <default_op> kubuntero: thx.  I checked both and they are  empty so all should egt through.
[05:18] <default_op> kubuntero: arrr ok
[05:18] <intelikey> default_op that i don't know.
[05:19] <kubuntero> postfix for postfix I should think
[05:20] <intelikey> cat /etc/passwd   might be revieling
[05:20] <intelikey> inquiring minds want to know.
[05:20] <default_op> kubuntero: I uninstalled postfix since couldn't get it working with Courier.  using Courier for both reading and sending email but they aren't sending or recieving anything.
[05:20] <default_op> intelikey: will do
[05:22] <default_op> intelikey: 'mail' only group so that must be the daemon group.
[05:23] <intelikey> i started to say,  that i started to say that,  but it sounded to clecheic
[05:27] <karllenz> wtf i ust installed that ati card and now all of a sudden it works no problem
[05:27] <karllenz> with both cards in
[05:27] <karllenz> lets see if i can get the driver installed
[05:27] <karllenz> so it will display on the ati tv out and the nvidia to the monitor
[05:28]  * intelikey thinks karllenz doesn't care what he asks for....
[05:28] <intelikey> sky's the limit !
[05:28] <karllenz> wats that mean intelikey
[05:29] <intelikey> means tre bon chance karllenz
[05:30] <intelikey> you might.   i hope you do.     maybe you will.     but you set your sights offully high...
[05:30] <karllenz> huh
[05:31] <intelikey> has anyone ever gotten nvidia and ati to play nice togather in one box ?
[05:31] <intelikey> heck i can't even get nvidia to play nice by it's self     hehhe.
[05:32] <karllenz> lol
[05:32] <karllenz> well ubutu doesnt seem to see the ati card at all
[05:33] <karllenz> karl
[05:33] <karllenz> is the a commande i can run to see whats install in my pci slots
[05:34] <intelikey> lspci
[05:34] <intelikey> lshw | less    for full hardware listing
[05:35] <karllenz> thanx
[05:35]  * kubuntero wonders if anyone will forgive sabdfl for not naming the P animal as penguin
[05:35] <intelikey> no
[05:35] <karllenz> wow everythings all screwy now my term window is all white cant see anything
[05:36] <intelikey> typical of the hardware and system
[05:37] <intelikey> you might refresh it by hiding it and then restoring it
[05:37] <intelikey> if you meant term as in konsole terminal emulator
[05:37] <karllenz> is there a way to restore my settings to wat it was before i messed with the screen and such
[05:38] <intelikey> which settings ?
[05:38] <intelikey> konsole ?
[05:38] <intelikey> xorg
[05:38] <intelikey> kde ?
[05:38] <intelikey> ^l   ^l
[05:38] <intelikey> reset
[05:38] <intelikey> clear
[05:39] <intelikey> charge to 200 he's still flat lineing
[05:39] <intelikey> clear
[05:39] <karllenz> um not to sure i messed with what i had in the screen and graphics pane
[05:40] <intelikey> karllenz then i'm not to sure either.    and might not know if i was sure.    maybe
[05:40] <karllenz> lol
[05:41] <intelikey> a little levity levitates the whole lump
[05:41] <karllenz> mabey uninstall and installing the restricted driver
[05:42] <intelikey> for which one ?   the ati or the nvidia ?
[05:43]  * intelikey is really not helping anything right now.    so i'll be back when i'm less wanted.
[05:43] <karllenz> nvidia
[05:46] <karllenz> that did the trick
[05:46] <karllenz> nice
[05:48] <mjponce> what means "the news live cd it doesnt work" ?
[05:49] <karllenz> thethe new kubuntu live cd didnt auto config my my wireless card
[05:50] <[ifr0g]> Hi Guys :)
[05:51] <mjponce> i think that its not only that ..
[05:51] <mjponce> someone tells me about some broken packages
[05:54] <karllenz> when i used the newst kubuntu live cd to install the belkin wireless g usb network card didnt work out of the box
[05:54] <karllenz> i used kubunt 7.04 live cd it worked fine
[05:59] <mjponce> thanks! good nigth to all.
[05:59] <kubuntero> Night
[06:04] <karllenz> can lmce be install wih ubuntu
[06:06] <kubuntero> I suppose in theory
[06:14] <karllenz> i have kubuntu 7.04 will the installer update me to 7.10?
[06:16] <kubuntero> karllenz: Which installer>
[06:17] <karllenz> the little triangle at the corner of my screen lol
[06:17] <karllenz> its called adept
[06:18] <kubuntero> Oh
[06:18] <kubuntero> Kinda
[06:19] <karllenz> i found a how to
[06:19] <kubuntero> Kubuntu.org would have one
[06:20] <funcrush> I just finished upgrade to kde 3.5.9 but root directory is mounted on my desktop. How can i mount my Desktop folder on my Desktop?
[07:10] <noaXess> good morning..
[07:11] <noaXess> is kde 3.5.9 stable?
[07:25] <loll>  I have some source code and have identified an error i how it tries to identify PAGE_SIZE, however I do not know if my workaround actually solves it, and need a hand
[07:29] <default_op> loll: you probably should be in #kubuntu-devel
[07:30] <default_op> noaXess: yep it's stable
[07:33] <noaXess> default_op: okay.. thanks :)
[07:33] <noaXess> let's go to upgrade to 3.5.9 :)
[07:35] <default_op> noaXess: well it's what I think I read on kde.org.  can't get the site up though
[07:35] <surgy> will a feisty deb work in my kubuntu 7.10 ?
[07:36] <surgy> or a dapper deb ?
[07:36] <default_op> KDE 3.5.9 released.
[07:36] <default_op> On 19th February 2008, the KDE community released the ninth update for the stable version of KDE. This release features numerous bugfixes all over KDE, and a more-stable-than-ever enterprise version of KDE-PIM.
[07:37] <karllenz> thats the comandl line to reconfig X
[07:37] <karllenz> what*
[07:37] <default_op> surgy: what is the deb you have?
[07:37] <default_op> surgy: can't you egt a new version?
[07:38] <surgy> default_op: no i cant get a newer one and its panda3d
[07:38] <default_op> surgy: most things should be backward compatible but ther may depend on named older resources
[07:39] <surgy> which one whould be most likely to work?
[07:40] <default_op> surgy: I'm not expert but I'd say unless the problem asked for a kernel rebuild then you should be pretty right.
[07:42] <default_op> surgy: which was the last kernel model?  feisty
[07:46] <default_op> Krusader is a great app
[07:49] <cishpix> how can I run public file server in kde4?
[07:54] <gort> hi
[07:54] <gort> how do I check my ext3 system for errors and fix 'em?
[07:57] <appelza> fsck.ext3
[07:57] <appelza> or just fsck
[07:57] <gort> thanx a lot
[08:34] <noaXess> in kde 3.5.9 are there some visual changes or only background upgrades?
[08:38] <ago> Hi all
[08:38] <ago> we need testers for Wubi installation of kubuntu
[08:38] <ago> if you have windows (on real iron or vm) + 5GB free please consider trying wubi
[08:38] <ago> you will find that in the latest daily ISO
[08:39] <ago> pls report any issue in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234
[08:42] <quocdai> help
[08:42] <quocdai> anybody help me
[08:49] <quocdai> how  to get gcc on KDE ?
[08:49] <SSJ_GZ> quocdai: On Kubuntu, you mean?
[08:50] <quocdai> yes
[08:50] <SSJ_GZ> quocdai: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:50] <quocdai> Ok thanks
[08:50] <SSJ_GZ> np
[08:50] <quocdai> but if my PC doesnt Internet
[08:50] <quocdai> how to het it ?
[08:50] <quocdai> how to get it ?
[08:52] <quocdai> SSJ_GZ:
[08:52] <SSJ_GZ> quocdai: It might be on the CD.
[08:53] <quocdai> can i download image file  ISO ?
[08:56] <quocdai> SSJ_GZ help me pls
[08:56] <SSJ_GZ> quocdai: I don't know, sorry.
[08:56] <quocdai> Ok
[08:56] <quocdai> thank so much
[08:56] <quocdai> :)
[08:57] <quocdai> another problem
[08:57] <quocdai> about codec for MP3
[08:57] <quocdai> WMV
[08:57] <quocdai> where is it ?
[08:59] <sd32> !songbird
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <eirikeylandsbran> Is there some easy way to "factory" reset kubuntu?
[09:00] <quocdai> !codec
[09:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:01] <quocdai> !codec
[09:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:02] <quocdai> !gcc
[09:02] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[09:02] <quocdai> !tar:/home/quocdai/x-unikey-0.9.2.tar.bz2/x-unikey-0.9.2
[09:21] <boris_> yeah
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:45] <twosouls82> does "nice" also affect child processes?
[09:48] <Raidu> Hey guys :)
[10:00] <hrd3> HELLO
[10:07] <jose> as
[10:08] <jose> buenas a todos
[10:08] <jose> necesito algo de ayuda
[10:08] <jose> soy totalmente nuevo en esto
[10:08] <jose> y quiero instalar el amsn
[10:08] <jose> pero no tengo ni idea de cómo hacerlo
[10:09] <jose> alguien puede orientarme un poco
[10:16] <Raidu> hey guys ;)
[10:16] <jpatrick> hi
[10:17] <twosouls82> "sudo apt-get --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings" -> "Unknown argument for /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubuntu-default-settings.postrm" (Ubuntu 7.10)
[10:17] <jpatrick> twosouls82: try apt-get install --reinstall*
[10:18] <Raidu> was up?
[10:18] <twosouls82> jpatrick: I did, I forgot to quote it
[10:18] <jpatrick> twosouls82: remove it and then install again
[10:19] <jpatrick> Raidu: please take offtopic to to #kubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel :)
[10:19] <Raidu> o yea forgot that :P
[10:20] <embrik> I've forgotten my root-password. What do I do?
[10:21] <jpatrick> !noroot | embrik
[10:21] <ubotu> embrik: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[10:21] <twosouls82> jpatrick: "sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-default-settings  && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings" and after this reinstalling causes it again (plain removal went fine)
[10:21] <jpatrick> embrik: enter the rescue kernel and type "passwd"
[10:21] <jpatrick> twosouls82: maybe it just doesn't know what "purge" means...
[10:22] <twosouls82> jpatrick: it does, it only complains when I use "--reinstall", all other actions complete without errors
[10:22] <Sbucatone_> wee helllo
[10:22] <embrik> jpatrick: ok
[10:22] <twosouls82> :)
[10:22] <jpatrick> twosouls82: hmm, no idea then
[10:22] <embrik> jpatrick: you mean single user
[10:23] <jpatrick> embrik: when grub loads choice the rescue one
[10:23] <embrik> jpatrick: ok
[10:24] <Raidu> !theme
[10:24] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:24] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > Raidu (see pm frmo ubotu :))
[10:25] <Raidu> ok.
[10:27] <Raidu> jpatrick, hey man how can i change themes on kubuntu?
[10:28] <jpatrick> Raidu: from system settings in the kmenu
[10:28] <Raidu> k but whats the file name that i need to have on theme ?
[10:29] <jpatrick> can't remembre (am at school on windows box)
[10:29] <Raidu> k
[10:30] <Raidu> thanks anyway
[10:30] <jpatrick> Raidu: look in adept for kde-style or something..
[10:33] <ibm_> o
[10:34] <Raidu> k
[10:34] <joakim2> cake
[10:35] <Raidu> damn the kde theme installer doesnt work :S
[10:36] <Raidu> jpatrick, whats the command for gnome panel or whats it called?
[10:37] <jpatrick> Raidu: no idea, (don't use gnome) but the kde one is "kicker"
[10:37] <sigma_1234> what hapend to hardy alpha 5?
[10:38] <jpatrick> sigma_1234: blocked by bad builds
[10:38] <jpatrick> or something freaky happened by what I read
[10:38] <Raidu> jpatrick,  how can i make it active or smth?
[10:38] <sigma_1234> so its not going to be released?
[10:38] <jpatrick> sigma_1234: soon
[10:38] <embrik> I am not able to grab video from dv-camera - can anybody help-
[10:39] <embrik> <i'm usin kino
[10:39] <jpatrick> embrik: you got your root back?
[10:39] <embrik> jpatrick: yes
[10:39] <jpatrick> embrik: great
[10:39] <jpatrick> sigma_1234: try asking in #kubuntu-devel
[10:39] <embrik> jpatrick: thanks - do you know iee1394? I'm not able to grab video
[10:39] <jpatrick> embrik: no I don't...
[10:40] <embrik> ok
[10:40] <sigma_1234> ok cool. thanks
[10:41] <embrik> anybody else who can help with grabbing video?
[10:42] <embrik> I get raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write
[10:42] <sigma_1234> aparently the ubuntu after hardy will make those work well
[10:42] <neville> I've written a script for neverwinter nights, which allows me to start the game on a seperate xserver with i type in nwn, and it works fine up until when I select play from its splash menu, in which case is shuts down the xserver and drops me back to cli. this doesn't happen when I go through all the steps manually to start it this way. Anybody have any ideas?
[10:44] <apparle> hwllo
[10:44] <apparle> hello
[10:45] <apparle>  :)
[10:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello.
[10:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now I am tired of seeing this error...
[10:49] <apparle> which
[10:49] <andy> !mplayer
[10:49] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[10:49] <andy> any one able to help with player web plugin?
[10:50] <andy> !codecs
[10:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> I try to update and since it tried to install the linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic package it keeps failing trying to create/update the update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56938/
[10:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> Please I need some help on this...
[10:53] <andy> hi i am having a problem with the mplayer web plugin
[10:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> Please I need some help on this...
[10:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56938/
[10:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> I try to update and since it tried to install the linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic package it keeps failing trying to create/update the update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:58] <abcd> Is it worth to upgrade to KDE 3.5.9 - They say: "Security and other updates may not be applied promptly." What do you folks think?
[11:00] <apparle> I don't understand one thing> Why are they developing KDE 3.5.9 when 4.0 is here
[11:01] <SlimeyPete> apparle: 3.5.9 is a mainenance release
[11:01] <SlimeyPete> it mainly fixes bugs, like a service pack for Windows
[11:02] <apparle> SlimeyPete: and what does a maintainance release mean
[11:02] <apparle> Which one is better Koffice or Open Offce
[11:02] <SlimeyPete> apparle: it means they don't develop major new features, but they do fix existing bugs or improve the efficiency of the code
[11:03] <SlimeyPete> apparle: most projects do this (e.g. the Linux 2.4 kernel was/is maintained for ages after 2.6 came out)
[11:04] <emilsedgh> apparle: OpenOffice is has more features atm.koffice is better from a developer point of view
[11:04] <apparle> SlimeyPete: Thanks for the info
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> koffice tends to be faster
[11:04] <emilsedgh> s/is/Null :P
[11:04] <SlimeyPete> I prefer it, but I don't need advanced features in a word processor
[11:05] <apparle> stdin: are you there
[11:08] <abcd> Is there any script, or patch or whatever which fixes big fonts in a taskbar, missing icons and things like these in KDE 4.0.1 ?
[11:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> I try to update and since it tried to install the linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic package it keeps failing trying to create/update the update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[11:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56938/
[11:19] <coggz> Hi
[11:30] <orbitize> I really need some help  :S I tried to install a second screen to run dual screen, restarted xserver, but now my kdm doesnt want to start, and I am stuck at command prompt. What can I do to get my display up again?
[11:30] <SlimeyPete> orbitize: did you back up your xorg.conf first? (If you used a graphical utility to make the change, it probably did this for you)
[11:31] <orbitize> I used the system settings to change the screen settings
[11:32] <orbitize> does that make a backup?
[11:32] <SlimeyPete> hrm... probably ;) If it did, the backup would be called something like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.0
[11:33] <orbitize> ah, okay, I will take a look now
[11:33] <orbitize> seems there is one called xorg.conf.1
[11:33] <orbitize> I'll try copying it over the other one
[11:33] <SlimeyPete> yeah, try that
[11:34] <SlimeyPete> then do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[11:34] <orbitize> YES! Thank you thank you! It works:) I will just have to live without dual screen then..hehe
[11:38] <coggz> yay, i just got another ipod!
[11:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> !twinview |orbitize
[11:49] <ubotu> orbitize: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:51] <coggz> !DualHead
[11:51] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:51] <apparle> llutz: are you ther
[11:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> brb
[11:52] <apparle> while installing softwares on wine I get errors like (Windows NT 3.0 required) what to do
[11:55] <coggz> apparle: change the compatibility mode in wine config to whatever th prog needs
[11:56] <c0p-1-cr0n> hi
[11:56] <coggz> c0p-1-cr0n: hi
[11:56] <apparle> coggz: Changed it to WinXP still getting the error in the setup
[11:57] <coggz> apparle: try changine to NT 3.5
[11:58] <apparle> coggz: what if I adownload XP service pack 2 from microsoft site ad install it on wine
[11:58] <coggz> apparle: it seems NT 3.0 is windows 95
[11:58] <coggz> apparle: i don't think that would work
[12:00] <coggz> apparle: what program is it that needs NT 3.0?
[12:00] <|TroubleMaker|> anybody use a brother hl 2140? my hl1040 has bit the dust and these are still on the shelf and reasonably priced. I see on the brother website that they have a driver for it in .rpm but dont see a .deb and do not see any meantion of it on the ubuntu wiki.
[12:01] <coggz> |TroubleMaker|: could you use alien to convert it
[12:01] <jussi01> !alien
[12:01] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:01] <|TroubleMaker|> i thought about that. wondered what kind of can of worms i'd be opening though
[12:02] <coggz> |TroubleMaker|: hmm, try the conversion and if it works then go and buy it! How did you have your last one working?
[12:02] <|TroubleMaker|> the hl1040 was supported in ubuntu
[12:03] <coggz> |TroubleMaker|: oh, i see, is it a similar printer in functions...
[12:04] <|TroubleMaker|> im poking through the list of brother printers in cups now to see if it's there. i dont see anything real special about this printer over the 1040 but..............wanting to ask before i create myself a headache i dont have a lot of $$$$ for hardware problems at the moment! LOL
[12:04] <|TroubleMaker|> isnt that the way it always goes though?
[12:04] <Administrator_> Hi all, during updating the OS, the system is stucking on the following line: "99% [14 Sources bzip2 0]"
[12:04] <Administrator_> do you have any idea what could that be?
[12:04] <apparle> coggz: Its pretty old. Something like "Learn to Speak English 7", me freind needs it
[12:05] <apparle> what does LOL mean everyone uses it
[12:05] <|TroubleMaker|> Laugh Out Loud
[12:05] <coggz> |TroubleMaker|: does the store offer returns?
[12:05] <coggz> lol means Laugh Out Loud
[12:05] <|TroubleMaker|> its office depot do i'd assume so
[12:05] <coggz> |TroubleMaker|: buy itt, see if it works, and if not take it back!
[12:06] <|TroubleMaker|> yea, guess that's the worst that could happen right?
[12:06] <jussi01> |TroubleMaker|: have you checked on linuxprinting.org ?
[12:07] <|TroubleMaker|> ah no i havent checked there, just looked at the ubunt wiki
[12:07] <peto> ----------- who can help with a font in kubuntu -------------------
[12:08] <coggz> peto: go ahead...
[12:08] <apparle> peto: Ask the question straight way. Don't flood the channel with foolishness
[12:09] <coggz> !ask | peto
[12:09] <ubotu> peto: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:10] <peto> ok....
[12:10] <peto> i am not very happy with my font in kubuntu
[12:10] <peto> i know there is nice smooth font in windows
[12:10] <coggz> apparle: Learn to speak german (looks similar) is rated garbage on wine hq
[12:10] <peto> how can i get a nice font in kubuntu as well
[12:10] <coggz> peto: copy font from windows
[12:11] <peto> acctualy i can have a nice font as well, but only with size 8 and it is too small
[12:11] <peto> do you know what i mean... a smooth font?
[12:11] <loonyxp> Anybody knows why packages of kubuntu for kde4 where compiled with a dependency called libkdefx.so.5? normally this isn't part of kde4 and so it is missing...
[12:12] <coggz> peto: copy the fonts that you want and import into kubuntu
[12:12] <Administrator_> hi all
[12:13] <Administrator_> when running apt-get update the system is stucking on the following line "99% [14 Sources bzip2 0]"
[12:13] <Administrator_> anyone has an idea about hoe to fix that?
[12:13] <peto> coggz and thats it?
[12:13] <coggz> peto: yes,
[12:14] <peto> are they gonna be nice
[12:14] <peto> i mean good looking
[12:14] <coggz> peto: well if they look good in windows, then obviously yes
[12:14] <apparle> peto: how will you know if you don't try
[12:15] <peto> ok...
[12:15] <peto> can you just tell me please where do i need to copy them
[12:15] <peto> what folder
[12:15] <coggz> peto: anywhere, then use font manager
[12:16] <apparle> Can I remove ALSA sound system
[12:16] <felix_e> hi@all
[12:16] <felix_e> is there a reason the ppa-packages are not signed?
[12:16] <felix_e> not even with a automatic server signature?
[12:16] <apparle> bye everyone
[12:16] <peto> coggz i sorry, but i am new in linux, can you help with that
[12:17] <felix_e> the current configuration seems to be highly unprofessional to me :/
[12:17] <peto> where i can find font manager
[12:17] <jussi01> !fonts  | peto
[12:17] <ubotu> peto: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:17] <coggz> peto: sure, paste the fonts into /home/peto/ select the ones you want, then click install on the right hand side
[12:20] <vikku_> iam not able to play anything n kaffeine
[12:21] <coggz> !kaffeine
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <coggz> !kaffine
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <vikku_> ok
[12:23] <Administrator_> sdfdsfdsfdsfsdfds
[12:25] <coggz> hi nosrednaekim
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> hey coggz
[12:25] <coggz> does anyone know how to rip a region 1 dvd to region 2 ?
[12:26] <jussi01> !avi  | vikku_:
[12:26] <ubotu> vikku_:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:28] <peto> coggz i am sorry but its still not what i want
[12:28] <coggz> peto: what is wrong with it?
[12:28] <peto> i got windows fonts already, but its not working like i would like
[12:29] <peto> do you know what i mean with smooth font
[12:31] <coggz> does ripping a dvd then burning it make it region free?
[12:32] <peto> sbucatone_ can you help please
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> peto » turn on anti-aliasing?
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> or turn it off...
[12:33] <peto> how can i check?
[12:33] <jussi01> peto: usually its not the best just to ping random people :)
[12:34] <peto> do you mean sbucatone
[12:34] <jussi01> yeah
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> peto » systemsettings->appearance->fonts
[12:34] <peto> he was helping me last time, so i thing its not gonna be a big problem for him...
[12:35] <peto> ok, i am there
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> peto » see the option for anti-aliasing?
[12:36] <peto> yeah
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> peto » change it to something else :)
[12:41] <peto> nosrednaekim, what is force fonts DPI
[12:41] <yao_ziyuan> please help digg my this item: "Cross-platform RAD tools critical to Linux's desktop future": http://digg.com/linux_unix/Cross_platform_RAD_tools_critical_to_Linux_s_desktop_future
[12:42] <peto> nosrednaekim and whis subpixel hinting do i have to use
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> peto » don't worry about that
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> peto » whis?
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> peto » just experiment... I've never tried turning that stuff on
[12:43] <Airforce5555> There is a problem with my laptop with kubuntu
[12:43] <peto> ok but it looks like nothing happend
[12:43] <Airforce5555> whenever I load up, it goes through the initial loading screen
[12:43] <peto> do i have a restart graphic
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> peto » I think you have to log out and then back in.
[12:43] <Airforce5555> then goes to it again and just turns to a black screen
[12:43] <|Dreams|> has any got a good sources list for kubuntu gutsy x64 please
[12:43] <peto> nosrednaekim do you know what....
[12:44] <peto> i got one more problem
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » is there anything on ctrl+alt+f2 or th monitor "lose the signal"
[12:44] <Airforce5555> Its just a black screen which i can type in
[12:44] <Airforce5555> like normal symbols but no funcitions or delete or any of that
[12:44] <skar> hi, i'm running konsole and it runs sh->dash instead of bash, is there a way to tell konsole to run bash from now on?
[12:45] <peto> i lost commands restart pc and turn off computer from log out
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » so you can got to ctr;+alt+f2?
[12:45] <peto> nosrednaekim do yo know how to fix it
[12:45] <Airforce5555> oh wait brb
[12:45] <Airforce5555> let me try
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> peto » are you using XGL?
[12:45] <peto> thing so
[12:45] <Airforce5555> yes it looks liek a terminal
[12:45] <Airforce5555> when I use that function
[12:45] <peto> nosrednaekim i think i am
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » ok..log  in there.
[12:46] <Airforce5555> how? never have
[12:46] <peto> nosrednaekim i can run compiz, it means i am?
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> peto » well, thats a common problem, let me go find the asnwer.
[12:46] <peto> it will be nice, thank you
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » enter your user name, then enter your password
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> peto » if you have an ATI card, yes
[12:46] <peto> no, nvidia
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> peto » then no... its not XGL
[12:47] <Airforce5555> ok ive done that, but I still see a black screen instead of the usual default kubuntu?
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » no... stay over there... we have to enter some commands.
[12:48] <Airforce5555> Dont worry about me leaving that, I dont know how =\
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » what video card do you have?
[12:48] <Airforce5555> nvidia
[12:48] <peto> nosrednaekim so how can i fix it?
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> ok.... how did you install the driver?
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> peto » lets check if you have XGL,run "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"
[12:49] <Airforce5555> I think kubuntu just recognized it from the startup
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » so you didn't manually install any drivers
[12:49] <Airforce5555> not video
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » in that case, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[12:50] <Sbucatone_> peto: ?
[12:50] <peto> yes
[12:50] <Sbucatone_> peto: about what ?
[12:51] <peto> after install compiz i lost commands restart pc and turn off pc from kde log out menu
[12:51] <peto> there only log out left, do you know how to fix it?
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> peto » check if XGL is installed
[12:52] <Sbucatone_> :)
[12:52] <peto> i think it is
[12:52] <Sbucatone_> peto: what kind of card have you ?
[12:52] <peto> it said installed version is 1.1.99.1
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> peto » run "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> ah... ok
[12:52] <peto> nvidia 8800 gts
[12:52] <coggz> bye all
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> peto » remove that
[12:53] <Airforce5555> nosrednaekim ok ive done that and selected nvidia and a resolutin
[12:53] <Sbucatone_> peto: ah that guy i remember
[12:53] <peto> how can i remove it
[12:53] <peto> :)
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » ok,now run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[12:53] <peto> and why do i need to remove it
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> peto » "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl"
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> peto » because nvidias don'trequire it
[12:54] <peto> but can i still run compiz after remove
[12:54] <Sbucatone_> peto:  have you fixed your problem with your card ?
[12:54] <Sbucatone_> peto: compiz is running now ?
[12:54] <peto> sbucatone yes, compiz is running well now
[12:55] <Sbucatone_> peto: to know what have you done more than i said you last time ?
[12:55] <Airforce5555> still a black screen
[12:55] <Sbucatone_> peto: something of particular ?
[12:55] <peto> nosrednaekim can i still run compiz after remove that
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » ok.... switch back to the nv driver.
[12:56] <peto> i found something in forum so i was following instruction and it helps
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » run the dpkg-reconfigure command again
[12:56] <peto> but you helped me as well
[12:56] <peto> its nice now
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> peto » yes, you can remove XGL and still have compiz
[12:56] <peto> i like it
[12:57] <Airforce5555> which driver
[12:57] <peto> nosrednaekim, i gonna try
[12:57] <Airforce5555> nv? not nvidia
[12:57] <Raidu> does anyone know how to change kde themes ? the kde theme installer doesnt work for me :(
[12:57] <Dr_willis> it might be better to see why its not working
[12:57] <Dr_willis> There are a lot of kde themes in the repos - not installed by defaulkt
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> Airforce5555 » right
[12:58] <Raidu> willis i downloaded like 5 themes non worked :S
[12:58] <Airforce5555> ok restart also?
[12:58] <Raidu> is there any other way to install them?
[12:59] <Airforce5555> It worked!!!! thank you soooo much
[12:59] <Airforce5555> I was pretty worried i would not be able to use it
[12:59] <Airforce5555> =D
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Raidu,  i would most likely guess you need to learn a bit more about how KDE handles themes. and uncompress/install/compile them
[12:59] <Dr_willis> KDE themes can be a bit.. complex. :)
[12:59] <Dr_willis> !kdetheme
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <Dr_willis> !changetheme
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:00] <Dr_willis> I never can rember that factoid.
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> !theme
[13:00] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[13:00] <peto> nosrednaekim, it doesnt help
[13:00]  * nosrednaekim teh awesomeness :)
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> peto » you have to reboot I think.
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> or at least restart KDM
[13:01] <Raidu> Dr_willis,  i allready readed those all :S
[13:01] <nosrednaekim> !changethemes
[13:01] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[13:01] <Raidu> but still i can try them
[13:02] <peto> i did
[13:02] <peto> nosrednaekim, it doesnt help
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> peto » doesn't help with the log out options?
[13:03] <nosrednaekim> peto » you probably still have xgl installed
[13:03] <Dr_willis> Raidu,  a 'theme' technicially is a file that defines what other 'parts' to use. which widget set, icons, colors and so forth. each of those parts gets installed/compiled differently
[13:04] <Dr_willis> widgets, window decoration, icons, colors.. I think are the 4 parts. :) thats why i was wanting to find that url.
[13:04] <Dr_willis> window decoration and widgets are normally compiled/installed like other apps would be.
[13:04] <peto> nosrednaekim, it said try to run apt-get -f install
[13:05] <nosrednaekim> peto » lets try "sudo apt-get purge xserver-xgl"
[13:07] <peto> the same message
[13:10] <peto> nosrednaekim, there is one more thing i would like to know
[13:10] <peto> nosrednaekim, i saw some pictures of linux with look like mac os X
[13:10] <nosrednaekim> peto » well, run "sudo apt-get -f install"  guess
[13:11] <nosrednaekim> peto » well, its def. possible, I have done it
[13:12] <peto> nosrednaekim,  can you help to try please...
[13:13] <nosrednaekim> peto » sure.... install the baghira KDE style
[13:13] <peto> nosrednaekim, everything i gonna do will not destroy my compiz?
[13:14] <nosrednaekim> nope
[13:21] <teo-> hi i am trying to partition the hard using fdisk but when i try to write the changes with the command w i get : WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument. The kernel still uses the old table.
[13:21] <teo-> ?
[13:23] <dancemusiconly> Hi! I've got a question. How to bind Alt+Shift for changing language?
[13:24] <nosrednaekim> teo- » is the partition surrently mounted?
[13:25] <teo-> yes..
[13:25] <dancemusiconly> Help me plz!!!
[13:26] <jpatrick> dancemusiconly: look under keyboard shortcuts in system settings
[13:27] <ekrengel> does anyone know where the udev rules are in kubuntu to stop my wireless card from renaming itself?
[13:27] <jpatrick> ekrengel: /etc/udev/
[13:27] <ekrengel> yeah but which file
[13:27] <peto> nosrednaekim, can i install it in terminal?
[13:27] <ekrengel> : )
[13:27] <nosrednaekim> peto » I think so
[13:28] <jpatrick> ekrengel: somewhere in there... :)
[13:28] <llutz> ekrengel:  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[13:28] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick » power went out last night sorry..... looked at your wiki this morning :)
[13:28] <peto> nosrednaekim, do you know the command
[13:28] <llutz> ekrengel:  /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules
[13:28] <nosrednaekim> !find baghira
[13:28] <ubotu> Found: kwin-baghira
[13:28] <nosrednaekim> peto » sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira"
[13:29] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: I did say you "shouldn't" look at it :)
[13:29] <llutz> ekrengel: that usually happens if the MAC-address of your card changes at boot-time
[13:29] <ekrengel> llutz: they dont exeist on mine
[13:29] <peto> nosrednaekim,  because in adept there is updating running and i dont know how to open it again
[13:29] <jpatrick> !adeptfix | peto
[13:29] <ubotu> peto: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:29] <llutz> ekrengel: they are part of udev-package
[13:29] <ekrengel> llutz: i have persistent-input and persistent-storage
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> peto » oh....you can't do that.
[13:29] <ekrengel> but not -net or generator
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick » bleh..... and they tell me not to hit the little red buttons.
[13:29] <llutz> ekrengel: using gutsy?
[13:29] <ekrengel> fiesty
[13:30] <peto> nosrednaekim, i cant open two in the same time
[13:30] <peto> ?
[13:30] <llutz> ekrengel: ah ok, this is gutsy, sry
[13:30] <Sidekickz> Hello people.
[13:30] <ekrengel> llutz: my bad should have mentioned that
[13:30] <llutz> ekrengel: look for /etc/ifname
[13:30] <Sidekickz> Kubuntu Gutsy use Yaboo to dual boot?
[13:30] <nosrednaekim> peto » no
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> Sidekickz » Yahoo?
[13:31] <peto> nosrednaekim, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:31] <Sidekickz> Sorry, Yaboot.
[13:31] <ekrengel> llutz: i have "iftab" not ifname though
[13:31] <llutz> ekrengel: /etc/iftab it is
[13:32] <ekrengel> oh
[13:32] <ekrengel> : )
[13:32] <llutz> ekrengel: there you can name your device according to its MAC
[13:33] <ekrengel> llutz: ok thanks
[13:33] <jussi01> peto, then run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:33] <peto> nosrednaekim, errors during instaling sun-java6-plugin
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> peto » bleh..... "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[13:35] <peto> try to use -f
[13:36] <Sidekickz> I can´t find yaboot.conf. Anyone can help me?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> try the locate command?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> sudo updatedb
[13:37] <Dr_willis> locate yaboot.conf
[13:38] <peto> nosrednaekim, what can i do now?
[13:38] <Sidekickz> Locate returns nothing.
[13:39] <harmental> hey guys...after upgrading to kde 3.5.9...I got a kded process which is literally eating my RAM....
[13:39] <harmental> is that normal? any solutions?
[13:39] <Dr_willis> Sidekickz,  after updating the database ? if  updatedb + locate dont find it.. then its not isntalled
[13:39] <peto> nosrednaekim, i used sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:40] <peto> nosrednaekim, i am installing baghira now
[13:40] <peto> nosrednaekim, are you still here
[13:41] <peto> nosrednaekim, its done... whats the next step
[13:42] <peto> -------------- who know how to get a mac os X look in kubuntu??? -------------------
[13:43] <jussi01> peto: systemsettings -> appearance
[13:43] <jussi01> peto: please dont do that ;)
[13:43] <peto> why not
[13:43] <peto> just want to try
[13:43] <Pici> He means the dashes.
[13:43] <peto> do i gonna lost something?
[13:43] <jussi01> peto: a little patience goes a long  way :)
[13:44] <peto> jussi01 but you know how to set up it?
[13:44] <jussi01> peto: as I said, go to systemsettings -> appearance
[13:44] <jussi01> selece the baghira from there
[13:45] <peto> jussi01 where i can find baghire in there
[13:45] <NthDegree> K Menu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Style [choose baghira] -> Apply
[13:46] <NthDegree> @ peto
[13:46] <niall> window decorations too?
[13:46] <peto> nthdegree can you help?
[13:47] <jussi01> peto: NthDegree just told you what to do...
[13:48] <NthDegree> Floodbot may kick me for this...
[13:48] <jussi01> NthDegree: dont!!!
[13:48] <NthDegree> Click on the K Menu (The K menu on bottom left)
[13:48] <NthDegree> Click System Settings
[13:48] <NthDegree> Click Appearance on the menu that appears
[13:48] <NthDegree> Click on "Style" from there
[13:48] <peto> nthdegree and what next?
[13:49] <NthDegree> Under "Widget Style" choose Baghira
[13:49] <NthDegree> Then click "Apply"
[13:49] <peto> nthdegree but its not all, is it?
[13:49] <peto> nthdegree i have this done
[13:49] <appelza>  hmm, if I license software from another company to use in my own product, is that outsourcing or insourcing? ;p
[13:50] <NthDegree> appelza: outsourcing
[13:50] <appelza> ty
[13:50] <NthDegree> peto: If you wish to have the window decoration, choose "Window Decorations" and from there choose Baghira too if it is available
[13:51] <peto> nthdegree but i would like to have also the menu like in mac, do you know what i mean? is it possible to get it as well?
[13:51] <ximo> ubuntu
[13:51] <paulo> hello all
[13:51] <NthDegree> peto: yes it is possible
[13:51] <peto> nthdegree i mean that bottom menu
[13:52] <NthDegree> search for a "dock" that you like on google
[13:52] <NthDegree> it's called the dock so just google dock for KDE and see what piece of software you want for that
[13:52] <jussi01> avant window navigator ftw!
[13:53] <istvan> hi! could someone help me with some config/make/install problem? would like to instell video driver, but dont know how...
[13:54] <peto> nthdegree ok, i got windows decoration set up in baghira too...
[13:54] <paulo> istvan: i'll help you
[13:55] <paulo> first make sure you have the required compilers
[13:55] <paulo> sudo ap-get install build-essential
[13:55] <NthDegree> istvan: which video driver?
[13:55] <paulo> *sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:55] <nado> hi there
[13:56] <nado> i got a problem, i can't mount a cd-rom
[13:56] <istvan> xf86-video-intel is the driver... thx paulo, will do at once
[13:56] <peto> nthdegree are you still here?
[13:57] <NthDegree> peto: yep
[13:57] <NthDegree> nado: are you mounting as root?
[13:57] <paulo> ok, once the build-essential is installed i will give you the next steps
[13:57] <peto> nthdegree so i got windows set up in baghira too, what next
[13:57] <nado> got an .img file, tried to mount it, didn't work. burnt it using brasero, for k3b does not support .img files, but mounting the cdrom won't work either
[13:57] <nado> NthDegree: yup
[13:58] <NthDegree> peto: get yourself an application to give you an OS-X style dock
[13:58] <nado> mount returns bad fs type etc
[13:58] <Dr_willis> There is a Fuse Iso/other tool that can mount many different cd image files. Or convert it to.iso manually
[13:58] <NthDegree> maybe it's a bad .img
[13:58] <paulo> nado: just mount the .img file instead of the cdrom
[13:58] <paulo> nado: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149197
[13:58] <nado> dmesg | tail says something about not recognizing CD-Rom format
[13:58] <peto> nthdegree how can i get it please?
[13:59] <peto> nthdegree what kind of application do you mean?
[13:59] <istvan> paulo: i am ready with build essentials
[13:59] <nado> paulo: tried that, did not work
[13:59] <NthDegree> peto: there are many different applications.. use google to find the one you think will serve you best
[13:59] <paulo> ok, are the drivers in .bin format or in an archive... eg .tar or .tar.gz
[14:00] <NthDegree> googling a phrase such as Dock for KDE or the like will give you some ideas
[14:01] <peto> nthdegree sorry but i still dont know what do i need to find... what exactlly do i need to find
[14:01] <istvan> paulo: everything is in a simple folder...
[14:01] <paulo> ok so in the terminal go to that folder
[14:01] <NthDegree> peto: an application to provide an OS X style dock for KDE
[14:01] <paulo> istvan then type ./configure
[14:02] <paulo> istvan after configure type make
[14:02] <paulo> istvan and after make type 'sudo make install'
[14:02] <istvan> i get the result no such file or directory...
[14:02] <paulo> so there is no configure file in that folder?
[14:02] <nado> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.img mountpoint returns bad fs type, bad superblock, bla bla bla any idea?
[14:02] <NthDegree> peto_: sudo apt-get install kooldock <- if you can't find anything you like off google
[14:03] <peto_> nthdegree i foudn one, but it said its for ubuntu
[14:03] <peto_> nthdegree its called simdock
[14:03] <nosrednaekim> peto_ » AWN works in KDE too
[14:03] <istvan> there is a configure.ac, makefile.am, autogen.sh...
[14:03] <NthDegree> peto_: good find, but that one is for GNOME =]
[14:04] <NthDegree> you're quite right when you say it's for Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu
[14:04] <peto_> nthdegree so can i install that kooldock?
[14:04] <NthDegree> yeps it's made for KDE and looks a bit like the OS X one
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> kool dock is buggy.... I reccomend AWN, even though its heavily gnome based.
[14:05] <peto_> so what do i have to do now???
[14:06] <paulo> then try ./configure.ac
[14:06] <paulo> then sudo makefile.am
[14:06] <NthDegree> nosrednaekim: it appears to work.. once you've got it going correctly
[14:06] <paulo> never came across those type of build files before tbh
[14:06] <nosrednaekim> mmmmm, well I geuss its worth a shot
[14:07] <NthDegree> peto_: run kooldock
[14:07] <peto_> fellas please... what do i need to do now, what choice?
[14:07] <nado> woah crap
[14:07] <NthDegree> peto_: K Menu -> Run Command -> [type kooldock in the box] -> Run
[14:07] <istvan> paulo: with ./conf... i get access denied
[14:08] <NthDegree> paulo: is ./configure executable?
[14:08] <peto_> nthdegree couldnt not run specified command
[14:08] <istvan> erm permission denied...
[14:08] <nosrednaekim> peto_ » sudo apt-get install kooldock
[14:08] <NthDegree> istvan: chmod 755 the file
[14:09] <paulo> ok so try chmod +x configure.ac
[14:09] <NthDegree> that will get round the issue =]
[14:09] <paulo> :)
[14:09] <NthDegree> yep that too
[14:09] <nado> does anybody know if it's possible to burn an .img file with k3b?
[14:09] <NthDegree> nado: convert it to a .iso
[14:10] <Dr_willis> I wonder if that nerolinux can burn them
[14:10] <Dr_willis> is it a .img of a game cd? or somthing else special?
[14:10] <nado> NthDegree: how? :)
[14:10] <peto_> nthdegree i am ready
[14:10] <NthDegree> peto_: did you do a sudo apt-get install kooldock?
[14:10] <istvan> line 23: syntax error near unexpected token '2.57
[14:10] <peto_> yes
[14:10] <nado> Dr_willis: yup, it's fallout 2 ;)
[14:10] <NthDegree> peto_: if so it's time for K Menu -> Run Command -> [type kooldock in the box] -> Run
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> NthDegree » alt+f2 may be easier ;)
[14:11] <paulo> istvan what is the model of your Intel graphics card
[14:11] <NthDegree> Dr_willis: it will burn it but Nero Linux will he either needs a cuesheet or will need to know sector sizes etc. for a raw burn
[14:11] <Dr_willis> nado,  best bet if yoyu want to play a game with wine. is to track down a 'of debateable legality' no-cd-crack for the game.
[14:11] <paulo> the solution may already be in the repository!
[14:12] <peto_> nthdegree ok, its running and how to set up it now?
[14:12] <NthDegree> move your pointer to the bottom of the screen
[14:12] <Dr_willis> converting to .iso and burning - will lose the special copy-protection info most likely
[14:12] <nado> Dr_willis: at first i should be able to access the data on the disk and that's my problem
[14:12] <NthDegree> and you have an OS X-like dock
[14:12] <NthDegree> right click it when it appears to edit items on it
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks  :-)
[14:13] <Dr_willis> nado,  just converting to .iso should let you mount/install the game. Running it - will be another story. :) if it in fact does have copy protection
[14:13] <istvan> x3100 or gm965
[14:14] <peto_> nthdegree it still hiding, can i turn it off
[14:14] <nado> Dr_willis: yeah I'm trying to find a way to convert it right now
[14:14] <Dr_willis> !info bchunk
[14:14] <ubotu> bchunk (source: bchunk): CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-6 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 68 kB
[14:14] <NthDegree> peto_: turn off the hiding or turn off the dock altogether?
[14:14] <Dr_willis> nado,  then theres some fuse/iso tools that can mount a lot of image files also
[14:15] <NthDegree> mhare@HP3700:~$ apt-cache search iso | grep fuse
[14:15] <NthDegree> fuseiso - FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images
[14:15] <peto_> nthdegree just hiding for now
[14:15] <NthDegree> peto_: it doesn't seem to have an option for it
[14:15] <z5000man> has anyone in here used ispconfig before
[14:15] <nado> any idea what an .mdf image is?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> thre may be some other tools at the FUSE web site.
[14:15] <nado> btw ;)
[14:15] <Dr_willis> mdf = used by dawmon tools, and alcohol120%
[14:16] <noaXess> need i extra tools to run/install rpm packages?
[14:16] <Dr_willis> it has special copy priotection info in it also
[14:16] <nado> will bchunk convert that too?
[14:16] <Dr_willis> nado,  no idea.  I dont warez games. :)
[14:16] <nosrednaekim> !rpm
[14:16] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[14:16]  * NthDegree be back in a bit - food time!
[14:16] <nado> it's a game from 1997, i'd buy it but tell me where to get it ;)
[14:16] <Dr_willis> nado,   ebay? :)
[14:16] <nado> good point :D
[14:16] <Dr_willis> actually a lot of the old games are now on the Valve/Steam stuff also.
[14:17] <nado> gnarf steam sucks
[14:17] <Vedavox> which game?
[14:17] <nado> it worked like a charm once, but somehow i can't install it right now
[14:17] <nado> Vedavox: fallout
[14:18] <Vedavox> will it work with dosbox, a lot of older games do
[14:18] <Dr_willis> i think fallout2 = windows 95 ga,me
[14:18] <Dr_willis> fallout1 = dos (i think)
[14:18] <neville> Fallout works perfectly in Wine for me
[14:18] <Dr_willis> Actually I think i have a copy of fallout2 somewhere..
[14:18] <neville> Full screen and everything, no graphical glitches either
[14:19] <Dr_willis> thats the one where you are running around a wasteland?
[14:19] <neville> Sound works great too
[14:19] <neville> Yeah, it's like a sort of Mad Max setting
[14:19] <neville> Minus the cars
[14:19] <nado> yup i'd like to use it with wine too
[14:19] <nado> both parts got platinum ratings there
[14:20] <nado> seem to work perfectly
[14:20] <neville> Well, what output does it give when you start it with Konsole?
[14:20] <peto_> where i can find a new installed software in kubuntu
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> peto_ » use adept.
[14:21] <nado> neville: i'm working on mounting the install disc, no gaming yet ;)
[14:22] <neville> :/
[14:22] <BluesKaj> peto, what software ?
[14:22] <Dr_willis> !adept
[14:22] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[14:22] <neville> My experience with Fallout in Wine was just
[14:22] <Dr_willis> neville,  did it fall out? :)
[14:22] <neville> Slap the disk into the drive, install it, play
[14:22] <neville> Nope, the disk never fell out :P
[14:23] <nado> huh somehow i don't get how to use bchunk
[14:23] <neville> Although with Wine, that should be expected
[14:23] <peto_> i just install a dock like in mac os and i want to add more icons there... but i need to find a location of software like firefox for example
[14:23] <nado> "Example: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo"
[14:23] <Vedavox> peto_: /var/log/dpkg.log will show you what you have installed recently
[14:23] <neville> Why do you need bchunk?
[14:23] <nado> neville: to convert .img and mount it
[14:23] <nado> since burning and mounting didn't work and mounting the .img won't as well
[14:23] <neville> Ahh
[14:24] <nado> i mean where do i put the file i actually want to convert?
[14:25] <Dr_willis> whever you want
[14:25] <nado> i mean in the command
[14:25] <nado> "Example: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo"
[14:25] <neville> Wouldn't it just be bchunk /path/to/image.img /path/to/whatever.whatever
[14:25] <nado> where's the .img or iso or whatever
[14:25] <Dr_willis> when in doubt read the man pages..
[14:25] <Dr_willis> you put the path to whever you got the file at.
[14:25] <nado> yup i'm at it right now, mom
[14:26] <peto_> nosrednaekim, can you help please?
[14:26] <llutz> peto_: most apps are located in /usr/bin/
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> peto_ » kinda busy right now.. sorry
[14:27] <nado> woah crap
[14:27] <peto_> nosrednaekim, ok
[14:27] <peto_> llutz can you help
[14:28] <nado> bchunk sucks, the man is useless and if i get it right, there's no support for .img files
[14:28] <BluesKaj> peto, look in the kmenu internet for firefox, right click and choose , add to desktop then just drag it into the panel.
[14:29] <istvan> paulo: cannot find in repositories - any other idea?
[14:29]  * Dr_willis thinks its .img that sucks
[14:29] <Dr_willis> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FuseIso
[14:29] <Dr_willis> that says it supports .img
[14:30] <Dr_willis> !find fuseiso
[14:30] <ubotu> Found: fuseiso, fuseiso9660, umview-mod-umfuseiso9660
[14:30] <nado> yup img sucks too
[14:30] <Dr_willis> and i quote from their web site 'In fact i found what CCD (CloneCD) .IMG files along with .MDF (Alcohol 120%) images can be mounted without problems because their format looks exactly as .BIN image file format. So currently fuseiso supports disk images with following extensions'
[14:30] <nado> hmm
[14:31] <nado> but still i can't mount it
[14:31] <Dr_willis> using fuseiso you mean?
[14:32] <neville> Try AcetoneISO2?
[14:32] <Vedavox> wheere are you trying to mount it?  I just have a blank folder called mount on my desktop where I mount isos etc.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> nado, kiso supports img file conversion
[14:33] <nado> Dr_willis: mom, just trying fuseiso
[14:33] <nado> wtf
[14:33] <Pici> mom?
[14:34] <Vedavox> I'm not your mommy
[14:34] <Dr_willis> you do have your set  in the 'fuse' group?
[14:34] <nado> Dr_willis: that gotta be it, suddenly i'm not allowed to enter the mountpoint ;)
[14:34] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb    mentiones the fuse group bit.
[14:35] <Dr_willis> :) i wrote that wiki.. heh heh..
[14:35] <arcticpenguin380> wats the next kubuntu release named?
[14:35] <andy> hi all any ome able to help with mplayer mozilla plugin?
[14:35] <Dr_willis> the mountpoint proberly needs to exist first also
[14:35] <nado> it dows
[14:35] <nado> does
[14:36] <arcticpenguin380> !ibex
[14:36] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[14:36] <flipstar> arcticpenguin380: Hardy Heron, 8.04 after that comes Intrepid Ibex 8.10
[14:36] <nado> brb
[14:36] <arcticpenguin380> cool
[14:38] <noaXess> i think i have killed something on my test machine.. if i want install some packages it get: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `cyrus' in statoverride file
[14:39] <noaXess> any idea to fix this.. instead to reinstall my test machine ;)
[14:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm fuseiso seems to work decently well.
[14:39] <noaXess> there was cyrus-imap installed and i have removed.. but i made a mistake on removing.. cause some other kdebase packages are removed automatically..
[14:39] <Dr_willis> at least on the .iso files i have :)
[14:40] <nado> huh
[14:40] <nado> Dr_willis: i'm in the fuse group, but i'm still refused access to the folder i mounted the file in
[14:40] <nado> btw how do i unmount something with fuse?
[14:40] <Dr_willis> nado,  did you log out and back in?
[14:40] <nado> yup
[14:40] <Dr_willis> i use 'sudo umount /whatever/it/was'
[14:41] <nado> ah ok
[14:41] <Dr_willis> i think thers somthing ya setup where the user can unmount also..but not sure how.
[14:41] <Dr_willis> I did a 'fuseiso -p whatever.iso whatever'
[14:41] <nado> did that too
[14:41] <andy> nado: what are you trying to do?
[14:41] <nado> ah now i get it, wait a sec
[14:42] <Dr_willis> grep fuse /etc/group
[14:42] <Dr_willis> fuse:x:107:willis
[14:42] <nado> ha, works ;)
[14:42] <nado> i forgot i mounted the image using sudo
[14:42] <nado> no wonder joining the group didn't allow me to access the mountpoint then
[14:43] <Vedavox> noaXess: try replacing /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride with statoverride-old
[14:43] <Dr_willis> :)  Thats the reason for the fuse group. heh
[14:43] <Dr_willis> wellgood luck. and night. Its bed time here
[14:43] <Vedavox> noaXess: or just ediding it to remove the use cyrus
[14:43] <noaXess> Vedavox: okay thanks
[14:43] <nado> aaaaaaaaaargh
[14:44] <nado> now wine won't install the damn game
[14:44] <andy> nado: what game?
[14:44] <nado> fallout 2
[14:45] <andy> not tried that one sorry
[14:45] <nado> don't worry, i'll fix that somehow, it gotta work :)
[14:47] <jussi01> !appdb | nado
[14:47] <ubotu> nado: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[14:48] <nado> jussi01: got that already, thanks anyway
[14:48] <AndreSTC> whats the name of a good filemanager?
[14:48] <jpatrick> AndreSTC: Konqueror?
[14:48] <Vedavox> Dolphin, thunar, konqueror, midnight commander
[14:48] <AndreSTC> [kalenedrael]: thanks
[14:49] <AndreSTC> ops
[14:49] <AndreSTC> k thanks
[14:50] <kalenedrael> :P
[14:53] <everton> olá a tds
[14:54] <jpatrick> !es > everton
[14:54] <nado> buenas dias
[14:54] <jpatrick> !es | nado, everton
[14:54] <ubotu> nado, everton: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:55] <nado> jpatrick: i assume that everton would prefer the portuguese version ;)
[14:55] <everton> no yo busco ayuda en portugues
[14:55] <prince_jammys> yeah
[14:55] <prince_jammys> !pt
[14:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:55] <Pici> !br | everton
[14:55] <ubotu> everton: please see above
[14:56] <everton> olá pessoal
[14:59] <noaXess> hm.. my adept_manager has no other manage repos look.. just a list of the repos.. before i had the extra window with the tabs..
[15:02] <emilsedgh> !synaptic
[15:02] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[15:03] <noaXess> emilsedgh: i know that.. but why has the apperance of my adept_manager changed.?
[15:03] <emilsedgh> noaXess: hehe i wanted to know synaptic myself, it wasnt an answer to you :D
[15:03] <noaXess> emilsedgh: aha.. :) sorry..
[15:04] <emilsedgh> :P
[15:08] <identity> hi all , i have problem with ps3 kubuntu kaffeine player , i've connected ps3 audio to my decoder via optical.. when i am watching divx , its crackling ... its happening for 1 sec in every 5 or 10 secs .. any ideas ?
[15:10] <dorkface> Anybody familiar with crontab?  I'm trying to get firefox to run at a specific time, but it doesn't seem to be working.  crontab file ----> http://pastebin.com/m7411cdc5
[15:10] <flipstar> dorkface: try kcron :)
[15:12] <dorkface> flipstar: This is just a test to see If I can get it running.  Ultimately, I want it to run a script on a server, but I don't think it would have kcron, since it doesn't have a gui
[15:12] <dorkface> and I don't have the rights to install anything
[15:12] <nado> yay got fallout 2 working :)
[15:13] <noaXess> software-properties-kde need to be installed for adept_manager / manage repositories.. :)
[15:14] <nado> i'm so dumb, don't ask why but anyways.... i had nvidia drivers installed, but i wasn't using em
[15:14] <sigma_> how do i specify 'nmi_watchdog=0' at the kernel command line? im trying to run virtualbox and its giving errors about the vboxdrv module not being able to start
[15:14] <nado> and without them and therefore without opengl wine wouldn't run that stupid installer
[15:15] <BluesKaj> nado, if you had the drivers installed , you were using them
[15:16] <nado> BluesKaj: umm not really. when i ran nvidia-settings i got warned the drivers weren't activated
[15:23] <BluesKaj> activated means installed :)
[15:23] <trappist> not necessarily
[15:26] <BluesKaj> semantics
[15:28] <cafka> hi i have installed backtrack and i want to know how can i see is ti on hd0,3 or hd0,2 i want to add it in the menu.lst????
[15:31] <L3ttuc3> how do i set lcd monitor brightness under kde? i could not see any power-save settings, and it's not very nice running my laptop at full brightness, when on battery mode. anybody?
[15:38] <plodder> Hi, I was fooling around with /etc/xdg/menus and now my konqueror has forgotten how to behave, asks me every time I click on a folder what he wants me to do...
[15:38] <plodder> kmenu is also gone and kcontrol as well - they are still there but nothing in them
[15:40] <unagi> if i back up my home folder reinstall kubuntu and paste my home folder back, will the programs that are in the folder like google earth work without any further action?
[15:40] <Vedavox> unagi: assuming that any dependancies are met, yes
[15:41] <unagi> if the dependancies are not met will it tell me which ones arent there?
[15:41] <flipstar> !clone | unagi
[15:42] <ubotu> unagi: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:42] <Vedavox> bunagi: hopefully, if you run them vvia the Konsole and look at the output.  They will not give you the package names, so you may have to browse
[15:42] <hydrogen> why the hell does apt think its smarter than me?
[15:42] <flipstar> maybe it is :P ?
[15:42] <Vedavox> hydrogen: LOL
[15:42] <hydrogen> I told it to uninstall apache yesterday, and it decided that I _really_ wanted to not only install apache, but also amarok and kdevelop
[15:42] <hydrogen> err, uninstall*
[15:43] <hydrogen> and god knows what else
[15:43] <MrJigsaw> Can i search a folder in kubuntu ?
[15:46] <Vedavox> MrJigsaw: in a GUI, use kfind, and they are directories in Linux, Folders are windoze
[15:47] <hydrogen> err
[15:47] <kilrae> Vedavox: they look like folders
[15:48] <hydrogen> they are folders (or directories) in both
[15:48] <Vedavox> I'm been a pedant
[15:55] <hydrogen> s/pedant/annoying/
[15:56] <plodder> stop bickering and answer my question :) which file determins what konqueror should do once you click on a file/directory/whatever?
[15:56] <plodder> I've shot my kde and you are talking about folders/directories...
[15:56] <plodder> can't believe it ;)
[15:57] <plodder> fwiw, I was fooling around in /etc/xdg/menus
[15:57] <trappist> plodder: are you asking about file type associations, like whether gnumeric or kspread or oocalc will be opened if you click a .csv file?
[15:58] <plodder> trappist: yep
[15:59] <plodder> trappist: and when I click on the booklink applet in my taskbar it asks me, too, which application it should use to open it... all associations are lost
[15:59] <plodder> buhuuuuu
[16:00] <trappist> plodder: looks like there's one file per association, in /usr/share/mimelnk
[16:01] <trappist> plodder: with user-specific overrides in ~/.kde/share/mimelnk
[16:01] <plodder> trappist: cool, thank you for the info! will check whether that is what got borked...
[16:03] <Vedavox> plodder: check /home/user/.kde/share/config and see if any of the files have recently been changed
[16:05] <plodder> Vedavox: will do, cheers - btw, what is the command to check for recently changed files?
[16:05] <Vedavox> I just open the folder in konqueror and sort by date
[16:05] <Vedavox> sorry directory :P
[16:06] <plodder> Vedavox: hehe, but grrr! my konqueror is borked!!!
[16:06] <Vedavox> ok, dolphin then
[16:06] <mith_> !kdepim
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdepim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <plodder> Vedavox: true, could install that thing again...
[16:07] <mith_> !kitchensync
[16:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kitchensync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:07] <Vedavox> or midnight commander via konsole
[16:08] <trappist> plodder: find /path/to/dir -mtime -1 <-- to see what's changed in the last 24 hours.  change 1 to 3 for 3 days, etc.
[16:08] <mith_> kitchensync can't connect to my nokia e50 phone via bluetooth, without any error message. can anybody help me?
[16:08] <plodder> trappist: right,  /usr/share/mimelnk is ok...
[16:08] <trappist> plodder: of course, that wouldn't tell you if any files are missing.
[16:09] <trappist> plodder: what does this output for you?    find /usr/share/mimelnk -type f | wc -l
[16:10] <plodder> trappist: am on a different machine, so wait...
[16:11] <plodder> trappist: 423
[16:11] <BluesKaj> nspluginviewer is taking uo 90% of the cpu and konq isn't even running ... this all stsrted after I installed kde 3.5.9. Goodbye konq !
[16:14] <trappist> plodder: sounds right.  I have 451 here, but that probably just means I have a few more packages installed than you
[16:15] <trappist> BluesKaj: do you also have a stuck acroread process?
[16:15] <plodder> trappist: yeah, and I checked the my home directory and there is nothing to note... It must be something different in /etc/xdg
[16:16] <BluesKaj> no trappist , but akregator freezes
[16:16] <tzd> will 768Mb of RAM be fine for running Kubuntu with a few apps such as Firefox and Amarok without any lag?
[16:16] <plodder> trappist: I will attempt to copy it from an intact installation to the borked one and take it from there
[16:16] <trappist> not a bad idea
[16:16] <BluesKaj> tzd , sure
[16:17] <trappist> tzd: there will always be lag :)  but that should be enough for a usable desktop machine
[16:17] <plodder> trappist: ksycoca also has something to do with kde menus and associations but I don't know enough about it. Anybody out there with a good link?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> brb
[16:18] <trappist> plodder: so does kded.  might want to make sure it's running.  might also want to consider running kbuildsycoca.
[16:18] <tzd> BluesKaj & trappist: hmm ok. Well i ran ubuntu 7.10 first and i didn't experience any lag at all (?) but ever since I've installed kubuntu 7.10 it lags a bit. Are there any nice ways to improve performace?
[16:18] <unagi> i cant seem to paste a folder over the network, says something about file doesnt exist
[16:19] <BluesKaj> tzd it should be fine, but don't upgrade KDE to 3.5.9 from 3.5.8
[16:19] <tzd> BluesKaj: ok, thanks :) Hmm f I run the "full uppgrade" in synaptic manager... will that upgrade KDE as well?
[16:20] <plodder> trappist: getting tons of error messages on kbuildsycoca - complaining about kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. Will log into X and try there
[16:20] <tzd> BluesKaj: *if i run*
[16:20] <BluesKaj> txd, not sure , you can check in synaptic
[16:21] <unagi> how do you copy files through the network with the prompt?
[16:21] <trappist> plodder: you're not doing it as root are you?  if so, don't.  if not, try DISPLAY=:0 kbuildsycoca
[16:21] <trappist> unagi: scp
[16:21] <tekteen> what protocol?
[16:21] <ignus> hi, can anyone tell me how to upgrade to 8.04 alpha from 7.10?
[16:21] <ahmos> !java
[16:21] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:21] <tekteen> !upgrade
[16:21] <BluesKaj> tzd , open konq or any kde app and click on Help/about kde
[16:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> ignus » go to #ubuntu+1
[16:22] <ignus> ah ok
[16:22] <ignus> thanks
[16:22] <Vedavox> !dist-updrade
[16:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-updrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:22] <Vedavox> !dist-upgrade
[16:22] <plodder> trappist: no, I was doing it on tty3, worked on X
[16:22] <tzd> BluesKaj: got it, thanks. Still on 3.5.8 :) Pheew ;)
[16:22] <trappist> plodder: ok, do the DISPLAY=:0 thing then
[16:22] <plodder> trappist: well, sort of, it said: kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : media_decropt.desktop
[16:22] <leroux> !java
[16:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:23] <unagi> the file or folder smb://1000mhz/C/Kubuntu/Documents/Pictures/Camera/%3F does not exist......what does this mean when im trying to copy and paste a folder over the network?
[16:23] <leroux> !driver
[16:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:23] <leroux> !ati
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> unagi » where are you pateing to?
[16:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:23] <unagi> nosrednaekim: do you mean what kind of pc?
[16:23] <trappist> unagi: no, that won't work.  but if it's a smb share, why not just mount the remote share?
[16:24] <unagi> what would that look like mount smb:blah/blah/ /media/smbshare?
[16:24] <tekteen> unagi: smbclient works for remote shares
[16:24] <nosrednaekim> unagi » no... I mean from what app to what app...
[16:25] <unagi> i dont know you guys are losing me lol im in dolphin trying to copy a folder from my home to a remote machine
[16:25] <tekteen> ok
[16:25] <trappist> unagi: more like sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //machine/share /mnt/point
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> unagi » huh, well, i've never done anything with samba
[16:25] <tzd> hmm while I'm at it... i get this error message when i try to empty my thrash bin: "unable to remove catalogue /home/.Trash-1000/files/johan/.gnupg." Can someone please help me?
[16:25] <tekteen> unagi: go into konqueror
[16:26] <tekteen> are you sending it to a linux machine?
[16:26] <unagi> konq is asking for a username and password but i dont believe there is one
[16:26] <tekteen> ok
[16:26] <tekteen> are you using windows file sharing?
[16:27] <unagi> its a windows machine
[16:27] <unagi> i can print off of it
[16:27] <unagi> and i can browse it with dolphin
[16:27] <tekteen> unagi: ok
[16:27] <unagi> oh and apparently now i can browse with konq
[16:27] <tekteen> so what is the problem
[16:27] <tekteen> ?
[16:28] <unagi> i cant paste a folder
[16:28] <tekteen> ok
[16:28] <tekteen> I know the problem
[16:28] <unagi> The file or folder smb://1000mhz/C/Kubuntu/New Folder/Documents/Pictures/Camera/%3F does not exist.
[16:28] <tekteen> ok
[16:29] <trappist> unagi: %3F?
[16:29] <tekteen> are you trying to move a folder?
[16:29] <unagi> i have no idea
[16:30] <unagi> im trying to copy and paste a folder tekteen
[16:30] <tekteen> ok
[16:30] <tekteen> from a kubuntu machine to a windows?
[16:30] <unagi> yes
[16:30] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: ??
[16:30] <prince_jammys> hello
[16:30] <tekteen> have you enabled writing on the windows machine?
[16:31] <MrJigsaw> Can i PM? I need help fast :/
[16:31] <unagi> i think i fixed it
[16:31] <unagi> i dunno what it was but there was a folder named '?'
[16:31] <prince_jammys> what's going on? here is better .. i may have no clue about your problem
[16:31] <MrJigsaw> :|
[16:31] <MrJigsaw> its mouting again..
[16:31] <tekteen> go to the windows machine
[16:31] <unagi> im only transfering at 6 mb per sec what gives
[16:31] <prince_jammys> who's mounting?
[16:32] <MrJigsaw> How is it i get my harddrives name ?
[16:32] <tekteen> unagi: that is normal :/
[16:32] <prince_jammys> the device?  /dev/xxx ?
[16:32] <unagi> whats the point of a 100mb ethernet card then
[16:32] <MrJigsaw> Yes
[16:32] <tekteen> unagi: i don't know
[16:32] <MrJigsaw> I just need a fast mount. i need to get music to my eksternal and off to party.. so kinda in a hurry :)
[16:33] <tekteen> that is not the weakest link
[16:33] <tekteen> speed = slowest device
[16:33] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: you can view all mounted devices by just typing "mount"
[16:33] <MrJigsaw> it isent mounted yet..
[16:33] <prince_jammys> then sudo fdisk -l
[16:33] <MrJigsaw> thanks
[16:33] <tekteen> unagi: also divide 100 by 8
[16:34] <tekteen> unagi: it is a 100Mbs card not a 100MBs card
[16:35] <tekteen> unagi: do you get it?
[16:35] <unagi> i suppose
[16:35] <unagi> that crap always confuses me
[16:35] <tekteen> unagi: lol
[16:35] <kaminix> How do I generate an UUID usable in KDE System Settings thingie for automount of a USB-drive?
[16:36] <tekteen> unagi: it is marketing. They do not explain the diff
[16:36] <unagi> blah marketing
[16:36] <unagi> lol
[16:36] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » don't generate one... there is a unique accociated with every partition
[16:36] <kaminix> Not for my USB disk.
[16:37] <tekteen> Also I have no idea why they now have 1Gb NICs
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » I assure you, there is one
[16:37] <tekteen> :-D
[16:37] <prince_jammys> !UUID
[16:37] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[16:37] <nosrednaekim> thanks prince_jammys
[16:38] <llutz> no sudo needed for showing blkids
[16:38] <prince_jammys> nosrednaekim: np, thank ubotu :)
[16:38] <tekteen> ubotu is smart
[16:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:38] <tekteen> nm XD
[16:38] <prince_jammys> ubotu anything
[16:38] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[16:39] <jpatrick> ubotu lies
[16:39] <ubotu> Mostly just statistics, but yeah.
[16:40]  * nosrednaekim <3 ubotu
[16:40] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick » a lover of Mark Twain are you?
[16:40] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: nop..
[16:41] <nosrednaekim> "there are three types of lies: White Lies, damn lies, and statistics"
[16:42] <HTML-insane> Lo peeps
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> hey HTML-insane
[16:43] <tekteen> hi
[16:43] <HTML-insane> I just got Beryl for Feisty...
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » doesn't fiesty have compiz-fusion?
[16:43] <tekteen> I don't think so
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> !info compiz-fusion (fiesty)
[16:43] <ubotu> Package compiz-fusion does not exist in gutsy
[16:43] <nosrednaekim> ah
[16:44] <BluesKaj> HTML-insane, usually we greet each other in english ..not aim or gaim ot IM lingo :)
[16:44] <HTML-insane> I don't know - I don't know the repositries for Fusion, and couldn't download the settings manager
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » ah... well beryl works then
[16:44] <HTML-insane> Exactly.
[16:44] <HTML-insane> That, and Gutsy didn't like my laptop so I had to down-grade.
[16:44] <HTML-insane> (HP ze2000)
[16:45] <tekteen> I had the same prob
[16:45] <tekteen> I think hp went down hill in gutsy
[16:45] <HTML-insane> Yes, it was only AFTER I downloaded it that I saw the forums.
[16:45] <tekteen> I got it working
[16:46] <tekteen> each part at a time :-)
[16:46] <HTML-insane> Well, it's not that it crashed - it just didn't like the graphics card...
[16:46] <HTML-insane> and no graphics card = no Compiz-fusion, I think.
[16:47] <tekteen> HTML-insane: mine did not like the card either
[16:47] <tekteen> I had to use safe graphics mode
[16:47] <tekteen> then install the restricted drivers
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ati mobile graphics = no compiz , I'm afraid
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> not so.
[16:48] <SlimeyPete> I used compiz with an ATI mobile Radeon
[16:48] <tekteen> same
[16:48] <tzd> Can anyone help me with a problem when trying to extract a bz2 file via konsole please?
[16:48] <HTML-insane> In Linux, where there's a will there's a way...
[16:48] <SlimeyPete> I just had to install AIGLX. Or XGL.... whichever one doesn't come with Kubuntu ;)
[16:48] <tekteen> tzd: tar.bz2?
[16:48] <tekteen> or bz2?
[16:48] <HTML-insane> that's why I want to get better at the nitty-gritty stuff like code and the command line
[16:48] <tzd> tekteen: tar.bz2
[16:49] <llutz> tzd tar xjf file.tar.bz2
[16:49] <tekteen> tar -xvjf TAR_FILE
[16:49] <tzd> tekteen: i type this: tar xzvf kalarm-1.5.2.kde3.tar.bz2
[16:49] <BluesKaj> SlimeyPete, were you able to run games as well ?
[16:49] <tekteen> j not z
[16:49] <HTML-insane> SlimeyPete: I think it's XGL that doesn't come with it.
[16:49] <llutz> tzd "z" = gzip
[16:49] <SlimeyPete> BluesKaj: didn't try.
[16:49] <tzd> aaah!!!! thanks a lot guys! now i get it...gah :D
[16:49] <SlimeyPete> video worked fine though
[16:50] <tekteen> tzd: learn to read the man pages :-D
[16:50] <tzd> so "j" is for bunzip2?
[16:50] <HTML-insane> I've still got problems with my graphics card...
[16:50] <tekteen> yep
[16:50] <nosrednaekim> XGL does not work with games
[16:50] <HTML-insane> Sorry, webcam*
[16:50] <HTML-insane> God, I've got 101 things in my head at once...
[16:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, SlimeyPete , I think that's the trade off with compiz on ati mobile or onboard graphics.
[16:51] <tekteen> tzd: the man pages are you friend :-)
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » hope you have more than 101
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> :)
[16:51] <plodder> trappist: kbuildsycoca did work but did nothing to alleviate my problems. I also copied /etc/xdg/ from sane to stupid system but no change. Hm... need time to reflect methins
[16:51] <HTML-insane> OK, OK, 101 concious thoughts.
[16:51] <HTML-insane> ¬_¬
[16:51] <tzd> tekteen: hehe i know about those as well.. just had a beginners course in linux in my uni. Learned that "z" was the unzip parameter and i was so convinced that something else was the issue... One day I'll think rationally ,P
[16:51] <dverzolla> Anyone knows software to dvd authoring? for Linux...
[16:52] <unagi> rm: cannot remove directory `Shared/': File exists what does this mean
[16:52] <HTML-insane> Hmm...
[16:52] <llutz> dverzolla: (q)dvdauthor, devede, mandvd, kmediafactory etc.pp
[16:52] <tekteen> tzd: sometimes it is also fun to just wing it
[16:52] <tekteen> tzd: one time I tried --bzip2
[16:52] <tekteen> and it worked :-)
[16:53] <HTML-insane> unagi: I think that means there's files inside it, in which case you'll have to use -r or --recursive.
[16:53] <HTML-insane> I THINK.
[16:53] <dverzolla> llutz: Has anyone where I can authoring via command line?
[16:53] <llutz> dverzolla: dvdauthor
[16:53] <tzd> tekteen: hehe I'll keep that in mind :D Sweet move though ;)
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> HTML-insane » correct :)
[16:53] <dverzolla> llutz: Hmm... I will try. Thanks.
[16:54] <linuxninja_> Hi to all
[16:54] <tekteen> tzd: the people who write these things want it to be easy
[16:54] <unagi> i used -r HTML-insane =/
[16:54] <tekteen> linuxninja_: AH! a ninja
[16:55] <bassem> i need PHP client for kubuntu
[16:55] <tekteen> !hi | linuxninja_
[16:55] <ubotu> linuxninja_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:55] <linuxninja_> more like a wanna be ninja when it comes to linux
[16:55] <tekteen> bassem: like PHP?
[16:55] <tekteen> bassem: you need an interpreter?
[16:55] <kaminix> Hmm... I have ONLY specified UUID 137b1fde-475a-4c11-968b-4313eca863ff which according to blkid points to device /dev/sdb at the moment, but when I mount it via the KDE mount manager it keeps mounting /dev/sdc1 which is not even in the manager atm. Why?
[16:56] <tekteen> linuxninja_: we have all been at that stage
[16:56] <flipstar> kaminix: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al
[16:56] <tzd> tekteen: ah yeah, that's something i've noticed. All the basic commands arre pretty easy :D Love the whole alias ideá although I'm to afraid to use it too much since I'll end up remembering my own alias instead of the original cmds which won't be any fun when working on a different *nix computer ;)
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » are you mounting by UUID?
[16:56] <linuxninja_> I'm more like a thug right now
[16:56] <flipstar> a thug ninja ?
[16:56] <tekteen> tzd: that is why I do not use it
[16:57] <bassem> tekteen: look ... when i save files in .PHP format and try to open it using firefox ... it does nothing but open the source code again with Kate :S
[16:57] <tekteen> ok
[16:57] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: I'm trying, since it's USB disk their /dev/name tend to change with each boot...; flipstar: It lists the same thing as blkid
[16:57] <tzd> tekteen: :)
[16:57] <tekteen> the issue is that you do not have a web server running
[16:57] <linuxninja_> no a thug training to be a novice ninja
[16:57] <tekteen> bassem: ^
[16:58] <bassem> sorry but i cant get u :S
[16:58] <bassem> tekteen:
[16:58] <tekteen> bassem: what you need to do is run the php command
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » huh... well mount by UUID has always worked for me.
[16:58] <tekteen> the apache webserver does that
[16:59] <HTML-insane> unagi (about your previous problem): Try using -r, and -f (--force). If that doesn't work, I'm stumped.
[16:59] <tekteen> I guess you need to download php
[16:59] <tekteen> then use it to create a html file
[16:59] <prince_jammys> bassem: you need to install php and configure it so that php files get parsed and executed
[16:59] <tekteen> then display iy
[16:59] <tekteen> it
[17:00] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: And if I change from automatic to ext3, it freaks out and ask me "'' does not seem to be a device and the option 'bind' has not been specified in the "Advanced" page."
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » is the USB stick ext3?
[17:00] <flipstar> kaminix: may you could try mounting without the kde mount manager and see what happens
[17:00] <bassem> will give it a try
[17:00] <kaminix> Not a USB-stick, USB-HDD, but yeah... it's ext3.
[17:01] <kaminix> flipstar: It mounts fine if I turn them on/off inside KDE.
[17:02] <flipstar> but wrong device you said..maybe its the kde mount manager i mentioned ..
[17:03] <kaminix> No, it's the KDE Mount Manager thingie in System Setting which mounts it wrong when I try to automatize it. If I just shut them on and off they'll mount fine.
[17:03] <unagi> my lord thats annoying -r -f still returns that
[17:04] <bassem> prince_jammys: how can i install php for kubuntu ?
[17:04] <unagi> !php
[17:04] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:05] <prince_jammys> bassem: the only way i know is to install it in conjunction with apache.  the above link directs you.   i don't know how to install it on its own
[17:06] <HTML-insane> unagi: You've stumped my basic knowledge -.-
[17:06] <prince_jammys> bassem: you would then be running a server which would parse any php files that are stored in /var/www.  if you then browse to http://localhost,  you can view the html output of the files.
[17:07] <prince_jammys> bassem: if you do this, make sure you are only serving to localhost, unless you are serving your php on a network
[17:08] <bassem> prince_jammys: yea i will ... thanks alot
[17:12] <unagi> whenever i try to sudo rm -r -f /path/to/ folder i get 'cannot rm: file exists:' what is this
[17:13] <teo-> hi i want to ask something.. i have installed backtrack and and fix the boot from ubuntu grub.. and now i have only ubuntu and windows how to add the backtrack os to the list???
[17:15] <flipstar> unagi: is this on an mounted drive ?
[17:15] <flipstar> probably ntfs ?
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> teo- » backtrack? never heard of it
[17:16] <rickest> unagi: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#emptydir
[17:18] <teo-> nosrednaekim it a linux edition.. i need to know on what partition is ti on hd0,2 hd0,0
[17:18] <teo-> but i dont know how:S
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> teo- » is it on the first or third partition?
[17:19] <kaminix> What would cause a disc to have permission denied on a KDE automount?
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> teo- » it might be better to ask the backtrack people
[17:20] <teo-> ok thnx..
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » if you don't have ti set to be mountable by all users
[17:20] <llutz> teo-: you should know, since you've installed it
[17:20] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: I haven't done any settings for it in KDE, is it in tune2fs?
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » no.... in the mounconfig manager.... this is the same USB hard drive?
[17:21] <teo-> llutz it's on hd0,2 but i dont know how to configure the file menu.lst
[17:21] <llutz> teo-: did it write its bootloader to partition?
[17:21] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: Yup, one of them. Have two. I got the same error on two of my friends portably usb drives last week.
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> kaminix » yeah.. in the mount manager, set the drive to be able to  mountable by all users
[17:22] <teo-> llutz yes and i fix it.. with the ubuntu grub coz i want to use the boot from ubuntu..
[17:22] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: That mountconfig manager is the one in System Settings I was using earlier.
[17:22] <llutz> teo-: so it wrote to MBR, _not_ to partition
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> yes
[17:23] <teo-> llutz yes
[17:25] <llutz> teo-: mount /dev/sda3, look into /media/sda3/boot/grub/menu.lst  and take the entry to your desired menu.lst
[17:25] <harmental> hey guys....what does the kded process do??? It's been eating my resources down since my upgrade to kde 3.5.9
[17:25] <teo-> ok
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> harmental » communications between knetworkmanager and KDE apps to alert them if you are online or not
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> harmental » perfectly fine to kill it
[17:28] <harmental> nosrednaekim: is it a new feature of 3.5.9? i didnt have this problem unitl yesterday...also...how can i disable it at boot?
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> harmental » system settings->advanced->services
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> harmental » its been around fo a while
[17:31] <peto> i installed updates and my system is running veeeeeery slow now, whats wrong? can i fix it?
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> peto » check whats using the most proccesing time with "top"
[17:32] <peto> how can i do that
[17:32] <harmental> nosrednaekim: its not there...i guess that some program is triggering it then :o§
[17:33] <peto> performance monitor?
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> peto » open a konsole and run "top"
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> harmental » in system services?
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> ah! its "service manager"
[17:34] <peto> nosrednaekim what do you need to know
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> peto » no.. konsole... the terminal application
[17:35] <harmental> nosrednaekim: yeap
[17:35] <peto> nosrednaekim i am looking at result already, but what do you need to know
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> peto » whats the top process?
[17:35] <peto> Xorg
[17:36] <peto> 62%
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> peto » are you running XGL?
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah... you are..
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> how did you install your nvidia drivers?
[17:36] <peto> nosrednaekim i think so
[17:37] <peto> nosrednaekim can i fix it?
[17:37] <Cold_Inz> Hi, I've got one question: Kubuntu is a KDE version as far as I know, does removing it mess things up, or ?
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> peto » how did you install your nvidia drivers?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> Cold_Inz » like, for GNOME?
[17:38] <Cold_Inz> for example
[17:38] <peto> nosrednaekim restricted drivers
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> Cold_Inz » nope, removing it should do a thing..
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> peto » check if they are installed...
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> after the update.. things can happem
[17:39] <Cold_Inz> nosrednaekim: ok thank you
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> *shouldn't
[17:39] <peto> nosrednaekim no, its not in use
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> peto » enable it
[17:40] <peto> nosrednaekim and there is one more problem, my adpet is not working proper
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> uhh whats it doing?
[17:43] <vijay_> hi
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> hey vijay_
[17:44] <marek__> hej
[17:44] <o-dog> hi all
[17:44] <o-dog> i just downloaded an iconpack for my kde
[17:44] <o-dog> but it says that the index.theme isn't valid
[17:44] <o-dog> what now?
[17:44] <kubuntu> I am new to kubuntu and I need to install alsa-driver 1.0.16 but I can only get a fix on alsa 1.0.14, what do I need to change to get the new version in synaptic?
[17:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> o-dog: get another one
[17:45] <jussi01> kubuntu: why d you need 1.06?
[17:45] <vijay_> whenever i open add/remove or adept fine error massage:-
[17:45] <John232> How do I mount a floppy?
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu » you'll probably need to install .16 from source
[17:45] <vijay_> Will not save configuration.
[17:45] <vijay_> Configuration file "/home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc" not writable.
[17:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> kubuntu: you *need* 1.0.15, probably because of the new sound chipset.
[17:45] <kubuntu> otherwise I got no sound jussi01
[17:46] <jussi01> kubuntu: for intel hda?
[17:46] <kubuntu> I got hda-intel ICH8
[17:46] <jussi01> !intelhda
[17:46] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> vijay_ » run "rm /home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc"
[17:46] <John232> How do I mount a floppy?
[17:46] <kubuntu> and on previous stuff I couldn't get sound with 1.0.15
[17:47] <vijay_> ok
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> !floppy
[17:47] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[17:47] <John232> ty
[17:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: so do you know if hardy is actually going to use the newest alsa?
[17:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> because these problems are really irritating, and completely preventable
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> whats the package name?
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> !into alsa-utils (hardy)
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> !info alsa-utils (hardy)
[17:49] <o-dog> well, installed another pack and still not valid
[17:49] <ubotu> alsa-utils (source: alsa-utils): ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.15-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 1828 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa lpia m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[17:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh thank $DEITY
[17:49] <ibou> is it possible to get itunes ?
[17:50] <John232> ^X Exit
[17:50] <John232> i type ^X and it wont exit
[17:50] <Pici> ^X is a way of saying ctrl-x
[17:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's because you don't type ^X
[17:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes, ctrl-x
[17:51] <John232> ok
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, which kde is the default in Hardy , 3.5.8 or .9  ?
[17:52] <flipstar> 3.5.9
[17:53] <edulix__> BluesKaj: what about KDE 4?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> 3.5.9 is quite buggy...i'm sorry now that i installed it ...konq is especially hang and cpu hog-prone
[17:54] <vijay_> hellow nosrednaekim
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> yes vijay_ ?
[17:54] <vijay_> i did but again getting Will not save configuration.......
[17:55] <BluesKaj> edulix__, tried it ... screwed up some of my fav apps
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> vijay_ » did it actually delete the file(any errors?)
[17:56] <vijay_> ya
[17:58] <vijay_> now the massage is..
[17:58] <vijay_> rm: cannot remove `/home/vijay/.kde/share/config/adept_managerrc': No such file or directory
[17:58] <unagi> whenever i try to sudo rm -r -f /path/to/ folder i get 'cannot rm: file exists:' what is this
[17:58] <navetz> how can i view fla videos without uploading them to a website?
[17:59] <stdin> MOTU Q&A Session in #ubuntu-classroom in a bit
[18:05] <o-dog> hm
[18:05] <o-dog> i got this other problem too
[18:06] <o-dog> when starting the pc my keyboard doesn't use all the keys in the login screen
[18:06] <o-dog> meaning that some of them work, but not all
[18:06] <o-dog> i can login from console and it works fine
[18:06] <rickest> unagi: did the answers in the other channel not solve that problem?
[18:06] <o-dog> and in x it also works fine
[18:06] <o-dog> but it bugs me to log in every single time from console
[18:06] <GRay> ug
[18:06] <GRay> а
[18:06] <GRay> п
[18:07] <o-dog> so does anyone have any ideas where the bug might be?
[18:07] <GRay> русский
[18:07] <unagi> i wasnt aware that i got answers
[18:08] <rickest> [10:16:08]      rickest | unagi: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#emptydir
[18:08] <rickest> unagi: it was this channel, sorry :) and another guy was asking if it was an NTFS-mounted drive
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> vijay_ » try starting adept again I guess
[18:09] <unagi> im about to reformat
[18:09] <unagi> i get nervous around this time
[18:09] <vijay__> ok
[18:09] <unagi> =)
[18:09] <rickest> unagi: it's basically a LOCALE problem. that link (and the item it links to) explains
[18:09] <unagi> the 'did i forget to back up anything' stage
[18:09] <mhollisjr> what's a decent root, home split? I have 30gb for root and 70gb for home? does that sound reasonable?
[18:09] <mhollisjr> root being / not /root
[18:10] <tekteen> mhollisjr: I have a 10 GB /
[18:11] <mhollisjr> well I'm new to the distro and never split off home before this install, so I never paid that much attention to what all goes there, do you see me running into any problems with a split like that?
[18:11] <tekteen> mhollisjr: I would lower it to 20GB at most
[18:11] <tekteen> nope
[18:11] <rickest> mhollisjr: do you really even need to split it up? on work machines with AIX and SunOS that will last for 8-10 years that makes sense but for home distros I'm not sure it's worth the trouble
[18:11] <jussi01> !home
[18:11] <ubotu> Your home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For mounting your home folder on a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[18:11] <tekteen> you would not have an issue
[18:11] <vijay__> hey now the massage is.. "read only mode: need root privlilegs..." ........
[18:12] <tekteen> vijay__: use sudo
[18:12] <mhollisjr> well normally I'd agree, however being new to the distro I'm sure to mess things up a bit beyond my capabilities, it's more of a cover your butt move
[18:12] <o-dog> what was the command to edit manually all the xconfs in console?
[18:12] <kubuntu> I want to use a simple console like in gnome, what do I need to install for it ?
[18:13] <tekteen> kubuntu: use konsole
[18:14] <mhollisjr> how big of a difference would packaging be between versions? for example would a feisty package work on gutsy, or a gutsy on hardy?
[18:14] <tekteen> mhollisjr: it PROBABLY work
[18:15] <tekteen> mhollisjr: but if it doesn't it will mess it up
[18:15] <mhollisjr> in most cases wouldn't cause any harm outside the package?
[18:15] <mhollisjr> wouldn't = would it
[18:15] <tekteen> yes. BUT I would NOT do it
[18:16] <dam> can anyone tell me why every time I watch a streamed vid it's kindda rigid ?
[18:16] <AndreSTC> is there a way to check processor core temperature?
[18:16] <flipstar> lm_sensors can do that
[18:16] <llutz> lmsensors
[18:17] <AndreSTC> ok
[18:17] <mhollisjr> -nod- well reason I'm asking is I have hardy (I would ask there, but I get better answers here, so forget I said that) and wine 0.9.55 is broken on it 0.9.56 seems to be available for gutsy, and I'm just wondering if it would be a temporary fix
[18:18] <jpatrick> !info yakuake > kubuntu
[18:18] <kubuntu> tekteen: I know I can use that, but what do I need to install to have the one from gnome ?
[18:18] <mhollisjr> Yakauke is the only way to go ^^
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> vijay__ » run it with kdesudo
[18:19] <tekteen> kubuntu: yakuake is good
[18:19] <kubuntu> owkey, I'll check it out
[18:19] <tekteen> kubuntu: the gnome terminal is gnome-terminal (duh)
[18:20] <tekteen> kubuntu: but it will install a few billion libraries
[18:20] <kubuntu> I see hmm
[18:21] <kubuntu> well is there another nice terminal thats a simple one ?
[18:22] <tekteen> I do not understand simple. what do you not like about konsole?
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> xterm
[18:22] <giuseppe> hi, anyone use superkaramba?
[18:22] <mhollisjr> I know it's been mentioned already, but I really do speak highly of Yakuake, it's soo simply to get to when you need it
[18:22]  * tekteen forgot about xtemr
[18:22] <rickest> kubuntu: mrxvt
[18:22] <mhollisjr> simple
[18:22] <bioss> hello
[18:22] <tekteen> !hi| bioss
[18:22] <ubotu> bioss: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:23] <kubuntu> k
[18:23] <bioss> its my first time in kubuntu on my laptop
[18:23] <giuseppe> so, does anyone know superkaramba?
[18:24] <bioss> does anybody know how to get my power boton to function with kubuntu on a hp dv600
[18:24] <tekteen> bioss: dv6000?
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> bioss » what do you want the power button to do?
[18:26] <bioss> since i installed kubuntu in my laptop the power boton aint working and no sound is coming out of the integrated speakears but it works fine with headsets
[18:28] <kubuntu> damned I can't get my audio to work :s
[18:28] <kubuntu> I followed this guid:
[18:28] <kubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:28] <kubuntu> and then at line: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[18:28] <kubuntu> the thing is that I don't have card0
[18:28] <kubuntu> I got a file named cards
[18:28] <kubuntu> but that gives:
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !HDA Intel | bioss
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <kubuntu> kubuntu@kubuntu-laptop:/proc/asound$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[18:29] <kubuntu> --- no soundcards ---
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !HDA | bioss
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !IntelHDA | bioss
[18:29] <ubotu> bioss: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:29] <kubuntu> I already followed that ... <_<
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu » that was for bioss
[18:30] <bioss> does this works for gutsy?
[18:30] <kubuntu> ah
[18:30] <bioss> the kernel
[18:32] <bioss> the other thing is with the new linux generic img that seem to corrupt the system has anyone had this?
[18:33] <kubuntu> hmm I got a lot of those errors:
[18:33] <kubuntu> [   30.204523] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_malloc_pages
[18:33] <kubuntu> [   30.204552] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_lib_ioct
[18:33] <kubuntu> someone any idea how to solve that ?
[18:35] <mhollisjr> hmph ok what's the proper package to install to use compiz? assuming that it was not enabled by default and that I do have the required hardware
[18:35] <flipstar> !compiz | mhollisjr
[18:35] <ubotu> mhollisjr: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:35] <bioss> install beryl
[18:35] <jussi01> !beryl
[18:35] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:35] <mhollisjr> -chuckle-
[18:35] <mhollisjr> thanks Ubotu
[18:35] <jussi01> !thanks
[18:35] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:36] <bioss> i know but seems his comp dsnt cards
[18:36] <mhollisjr> er thanks flipstar! lol
[18:36]  * jussi01 coughs...
[18:36] <mhollisjr> and jussi01 ^^
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> bioss » the new kernel doesn't work?
[18:37] <John232> how do you untar?
[18:37] <John232> tar **** filename?
[18:37] <flipstar> tar -xf <file>
[18:37] <John232> the **** is what i dont know
[18:38] <John232> ok
[18:38] <rickest> John232: tar xvf name-of-tar.tar
[18:38] <ubuntu> hi all
[18:38] <John232> ok
[18:38] <rickest> John232: or if it's a .tgz, tar xzvf name-of-tar.tgz
[18:38] <John232> ok
[18:38] <rickest> John232: finally, if it's a bz2, tar jxvf name-of-tar.bz2
[18:38] <John232> k
[18:38] <ubuntu> sorry, i am not well experienced in english cause I live in russia... I have one small problem could someone help me?
[18:38] <stdin> rickest: tar will detect if it;s plain, gzipped or bzipped, just -xf will do
[18:39] <rickest> stdin: super
[18:39] <SlimeyPete> !ru
[18:39] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:39] <ubuntu> :D
[18:41] <magarelli> salve a tutti
[18:41] <mhollisjr> er hmm
[18:41] <mhollisjr> !compiz
[18:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:42] <mhollisjr> that information refers to feisty, I'm not using feisty
[18:42] <mhollisjr> would it still be compatible?
[18:42] <magarelli> qualcuno di voi sa dirmi il percorso dove vengono messi i programmi in kubuntu?
[18:42] <stdin> !it
[18:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:42] <magarelli> sorry
[18:42] <stdin> mhollisjr: "This guide shows how to get it running on Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) as well as Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy). " < read it
[18:43] <mhollisjr> yeah I can follow the basics, but the repos arn't available
[18:43] <mhollisjr> well I'll just hope that the packages are still there
[18:43] <stdin> "If you're on Feisty, we need to add a third party repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list. (Not needed on Gutsy) "
[18:43] <stdin> read it again?
[18:43] <mhollisjr> er ><
[18:43]  * mhollisjr is blind
[18:43] <mhollisjr> thank you ><
[18:44] <dragon> hi all
[18:45] <jussi01> hi dragon
[18:45] <dragon> how are u all
[18:45] <mhollisjr> hmm
[18:46] <mhollisjr> ok following the directions it still crashes X, I'll see what the channel hsa to say
[18:46] <mhollisjr> !compiz
[18:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:46] <jussi01> dragon: how can we help?
[18:46] <dragon> yes
[18:46] <dragon> i maked ablog about ubuntu helping the arab people to know ubuntu good
[18:47] <dragon> i'd like to show u
[18:47] <dragon> it
[18:47] <jussi01> dragon: that sounds more appropriate for #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:47] <stdin> or #ubuntu-sa
[18:47] <BluesKaj> what's the dns look up command again ?
[18:47] <dragon> http://arabicubuntusupport.wordpress.com/
[18:47] <dragon> this is my site
[18:48] <dragon> and may do one for kubuntu
[18:48] <SlimeyPete> BluesKaj: dig?
[18:48] <flipstar> BluesKaj: just ping it
[18:48] <dragon> i'd like to know your opnion
[18:48] <stdin> dragon: #ubuntu-sa is the arabic local/language channel, you'll get more readers in there
[18:48] <jussi01> dragon: as we said, ask in #ubuntu-sa or #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[18:48] <dragon> thanks
[18:48] <flipstar> dig is probably more detailled
[18:49] <stdin> BluesKaj: host
[18:50] <BluesKaj> using dig but in this case it doesn't work
[18:51] <dam> can anyone help me? when I'm viewing a vid on youtube for example it starts laging even if it's completly loaded and of good quality
[18:52] <bioss> does anyone know how to fixed a hp dv6000 sound, with headset it works find but the internal speakears dosnt work
[18:52] <dragon> hey no one replay at me there
[18:53] <dragon> in the arabic chat
[18:53] <dragon> they may sleeping
[18:53] <tekteen> bioss: my speakers work fine
[18:53] <tekteen> bioss: I have a dv6604nr
[18:53] <bioss> tekteen out of the box?
[18:54] <bioss> do you have a hda intel sound card
[18:54] <tekteen> bioss: well... the speakers did not shut off when I plugged in a head set
[18:54] <tekteen> yep
[18:54] <bioss> thats normal
[18:55] <chartoin> hi guys
[18:55] <tekteen> wait
[18:55] <chartoin> I need help today
[18:55] <BluesKaj> bioss, check alsamixer in the konsole make sure you have your spkrs unmuted
[18:55] <bioss> cheking
[18:55] <chartoin> I have been trying for a long time to get compiz working on my kubuntu
[18:55] <chartoin> Please help me get it working
[18:55] <BluesKaj> ok BBL, errands to do
[18:56] <tekteen> bioss: try this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HP_Pavillion_dv6000_(dv6604nr)
[18:56] <bioss> yes everithyng is fine in the alsa
[18:57] <flipstar> chartoin: what the problem ? btw --> #compiz-fusion
[18:57] <jussi01> chartoin: which gfx card?
[18:57] <bioss> looks promising doit right kknow
[18:58] <chartoin> I have ATI radeon express 200
[18:58] <chartoin> its an onboard graphics card
[18:58] <jussi01> ouch
[18:58] <chartoin> and my amarok doesnst start
[18:58] <SlimeyPete> my radeon 300m runs compiz reasonably well
[18:59] <SlimeyPete> but it requires xgl.
[18:59] <Seren__> can anyone tell me how do you disable kwallet manager ?
[18:59] <Seren__> the constant pop up are annoying
[18:59] <chartoin> my xgl session doesn't start
[19:02] <bioss> rebooting the machine be back in a couple of minutes
[19:11] <kubuntu> wow damn after  monts I got finally sound \o/
[19:11] <kubuntu> btw, whats a good program to watch movies ?
[19:11] <tekteen> kubuntu: kaffiene
[19:11] <Oloughlin75> vlc kubuntu
[19:11] <tekteen> it is the default
[19:12] <flipstar> (g)mplayer rocks
[19:13] <mhollisjr> is there an ubuntu equivilancy of windows' audio "Default Input Device"
[19:13] <mhollisjr> and where would I set it?
[19:15] <band4lif1> d
[19:15] <mhollisjr> I don't mind messing with config files if I know which one I'm looking for
[19:18] <L3ttuc3> i've got kde installed from kubuntu-desktop, however, having both that and gnome are giving me some headaches: each time i eject a cd/dvd from my drive under gnome, i get an error message from kio_media_mounthelped telling me: unmounting failed due to following error: device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by hal. presumably that is because it is already being handled by gnome
[19:18] <L3ttuc3> -mount... how do i prevent conflicts between the two short of unistalling? and how do i preserver functionality in kde?
[19:21] <MartinCleaver> I am partitioning: what's a reasonable amount for an kubuntu operating system install, without user data.
[19:21] <MartinCleaver> ?
[19:21] <chartoin> It seems that my graphics card is not installed properly
[19:21] <kubuntu> hhow to ask stuff to the boot? I want to install compiz but it doesn't work with just compiz in synaptic
[19:21] <flipstar> MartinCleaver: 5gb should be enough
[19:21] <ashais_> Umm... can someone explain me how to use an .msi installer with Cadega ?
[19:22] <Oloughlin75> kubuntu: run "compiz --replace"
[19:22] <MartinCleaver> Great, thanks flipstar
[19:22] <Oloughlin75> kubuntu: run "kwin --replace" if compiz is messed up
[19:23] <kubuntu> k
[19:27] <kubuntu> damned
[19:27] <kubuntu> stuffs are flipping :/
[19:30] <Oloughlin75> kubuntu: run "kwin --replace" if compiz is messed up
[19:31] <chartoin> can someone help me config my gfx card
[19:31] <Oloughlin75> chartoin: whats wrong with it?
[19:31] <chartoin> I get this error when i use flgrxinfo
[19:32] <chartoin> hold on
[19:32] <chartoin> I'll pastebin the output
[19:32] <Oloughlin75> ok
[19:33] <chartoin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56983/
[19:33] <chartoin> there you go
[19:34] <flipstar> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[19:34] <Oloughlin75> look like libgl isnt installed
[19:34] <chartoin> I was following this guide btw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:34] <chartoin> how do I install it?
[19:34] <Oloughlin75> chartoin: do what flipstar said
[19:34] <chartoin> if its helpful, amarok doen;t start and ati catalyst control doesn't start
[19:34] <flipstar> open adept and type nvidia-glx
[19:35] <chartoin> I have ati card
[19:35] <chartoin> ati radeon xpress 200
[19:35] <martijn81> what aret the differences between normal, server and oem install?
[19:35] <martijn81> -t
[19:35] <kaminix> How do I check if there are any drivers available for my laptop's built-in speakers?
[19:35] <Oloughlin75> !audio
[19:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:35] <chartoin> is it ok to install nvidia drivers?
[19:35] <Oloughlin75> !find ati
[19:35] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gutenprint, foomatic-db-hpijs (and 147 others)
[19:36] <jpatrick> martijn81: oem is for companies, server -> base (no gui)
[19:36] <Marbug> whats a good program for msn? where you have a lot of options, have cam and chat even when others are offline
[19:36] <martijn81> kaminix: afaik it works out of the box or it doesn't, but don't pin this on me
[19:37] <Oloughlin75> Marbug: amsn is supposed to have most of msn messenger's features, iv never used it though
[19:37] <martijn81> Marbug: kopete or amsn are good
[19:37] <martijn81> i use kopete
[19:37] <martijn81> because it is the default
[19:38] <chartoin> so what about ati?
[19:38] <chartoin> what should I do about it
[19:38] <Marbug> I'm also using kopette but some stuff doesn't work, and when people are offline it doesn't send anything or do I need to install addons ?
[19:38] <kaminix> martijn81: Sort of what I thought. Quite strange though, one would think the easiest way to do built-in speakers for a laptop would be to make it a "this or that" option in the hardware. :s Don't get it why I would need drivers for speakers really. :p
[19:38]  * Signil is away: Gone away for now.
[19:40] <stdin> !away > Signil
[19:41] <Oloughlin75> kaminix: the driver is what interacts with the hardware
[19:42] <chartoin> Oloughlin75. can you help me out?
[19:43] <Oloughlin75> chartoin: ive never used ATI card before, try just going into system settings -> advanced tab, and enabling the restriced dirver. its a lot easier than installing everything by hand
[19:44] <chartoin> what option do I chose in advanced tab
[19:48] <martijn81> chartoin: it is ok to install them if you need them
[19:48] <martijn81> it's your choise
[19:51] <skyline05> so anyone here a regular ubuntu user?
[19:52] <jpatrick> skyline05: regular?
[19:52] <skyline05> someone that knows ubuntu better than I do
[19:52] <skyline05> and I'm new to it
[19:53] <flipstar> ubuntu in #ubuntu this here is kubuntu
[19:53] <tekteen> skyline05: we are kubuntu users
[19:53] <skyline05> ok so whats the channel for ubuntu 7.10?
[19:53] <tekteen> #ubuntu
[19:53] <skyline05> thanks
[19:55] <bigb> hi, which is the best way to share files between 2 computers with ubuntu?
[19:55] <Oloughlin75> how do i extract a passworded rar?
[19:55] <rickest> bigb: by share to you mean xfer or access one copy from both computers?
[19:56] <prince_jammys> Oloughlin75: have you installed "unrar"?
[19:56] <jpatrick> !info rsync | bigb
[19:56] <ubotu> bigb: rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[19:56] <jpatrick> !info sshfs | bigd
[19:56] <ubotu> bigd: sshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[19:56] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys: no, ark or tar wont do it?
[19:57] <prince_jammys> Oloughlin75: if so, you can use that command to extract it (man unrar for details, i don't remember).  But even with unrar installed i can't get ark to do it, so i use file-roller
[19:57] <stdin> Oloughlin75: rar is a non-free format, it can't be included by default so you have to install it your self
[19:57] <rickest> Oloughlin75: unrar xp[password] file.rar
[19:58] <bigb> rickest: both
[19:59] <jpatrick> bigb: ssh is your friend :D
[19:59] <flipstar> Oloughlin75: if you install unrar ark probably can handle .rar's
[19:59] <jpatrick> !ssh | bigb
[19:59] <ubotu> bigb: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[19:59] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: itll extract rar that dont have a password
[20:00] <bigb> thanks a lot for your help
[20:00] <jpatrick> bigb: you're more than welcome
[20:01] <flipstar> Oloughlin75: hm file-roller definitive can handle with password protected .rar's else you could try the command line version
[20:01] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: unrar is working for me
[20:01] <Oloughlin75> or not
[20:02] <Oloughlin75> woops wrong pas
[20:03] <dotzzz> !paste
[20:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:03] <rickest> bigb: as others have said, scp or rsync to xfer (most prefer 'rsync -e ssh'), or sshfs to mount a remote filesystem over ssh
[20:03] <npurciful> hey guys i have a problem, this morning when i wokeup my computer did have sound, I pipe the sound though my card out digital coax, i dont have stereo sound mp3 videos and such, but i do have s/pdif it still works
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> Dumb question, I know, how much in GB is 55053104 1k blocks?
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> I ask because I have
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-CentosOS
[20:04] <MartinCleaver>                       99190192  55053228  39016964  59% /
[20:04] <MartinCleaver> And I want to make sure that the 5GB that flipstar mentioned is reasonable given my current usage
[20:06] <stdin> MartinCleaver: use "df -h" to get human readable output
[20:07] <MartinCleaver> great. thanks. Shows I learnt unix 12 years ago before there was a -h (or that I never read the man page)
[20:08] <MartinCleaver> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-CentosOS
[20:08] <MartinCleaver>                        95G   53G   38G  59% /
[20:08]  * MartinCleaver wonders how the hell he's using 53GB on the OS partition
[20:09] <flipstar> MartinCleaver: filelight is very good to discover such things
[20:11] <MartinCleaver> thx
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> whats that KDE program to see your file usage graphically?
[20:16] <MartinCleaver> filelight?
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> sounds good
[20:17]  * MartinCleaver asked the same q about 10 mins ago
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> 30 gig home DIR and i'm not sure whats using it all
[20:17] <SlimeyPete> why not just use "du -hs ~/*"?
[20:18]  * nosrednaekim looks sheepish
[20:19]  * stdin prefers "du -s ~/*|sort -rnk 1,1|head" ;)
[20:19] <lod__air> what hapened with hardy alfa 5
[20:20] <lod__air> wasn't it sheduled for yesturday
[20:20] <SlimeyPete> stdin: ooo-ooo-oooh get you with the shell-fu ;)
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » yep.... too many problems I think.
[20:20] <mhollisjr> how do you install a manually downloaded deb?
[20:20] <jussi01> mhollisjr: double click
[20:20] <lod__air> dpkg -i <package>
[20:20] <SlimeyPete>  sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[20:20] <mhollisjr> er heh I suppose it would eb that simple ^^
[20:20] <mhollisjr> ty
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> mhollisjr » use gdebi
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> liek anything in Linux, there are million different ways :)
[20:21] <lod__air> and that's the beuty of it
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> yup
[20:23] <Jonty> I'm getting a segfault with apt just as it tries to read the database
[20:23] <Jonty> how can I resolve this?
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » whats the exact error?
[20:23] <jpatrick> !aptfix
[20:23] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:23] <jpatrick> try that
[20:24] <lod__air> my usplash isn't displaying.. i've tried setting different 'vga=' in grub's menu.list.. but still no usplash.. and i'm laptop user.. can someone help please?
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> !splash
[20:24] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> blah
[20:24] <lod__air> not that splash
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> !usplash
[20:24] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[20:24] <lod__air> the usplash...
[20:24] <Jonty> It's still segfaulting. The error is: Reading package lists... Done Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[20:24] <lod__air> i've tried this..
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » did it ever work?
[20:25] <rickest> anyone know how to turn OFF the shutdown splash? I like to see the status of services as they go down
[20:25] <jpatrick> Jonty: ouch
[20:25] <lod__air> yes whit the live cd, and if I plug externel mon. durring boot
[20:25] <lod__air> hit TAB
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> rickest » otherwise its black?
[20:25] <rickest> nosrednaekim: yes, doesn't show "text" mode
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> sorry.... lod__air^^
[20:26] <jpatrick> rickest: remove "splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:26] <lod__air> the Segmentation fault i've notised is gone when I perform fsck
[20:26] <jpatrick> rickest: but that removes it from boot up too
[20:26] <rickest> jpatrick: I have done that and it works for startup but not shutdown
[20:26] <jpatrick> rickest: ermm, no idea then :(
[20:26] <rickest> jpatrick: np, thanks
[20:27] <mhollisjr> ok how can I prevent a package from being updated
[20:27] <mhollisjr> at least temporarily
[20:27] <jpatrick> !pinning
[20:27] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[20:27] <jpatrick> mhollisjr: ^
[20:27] <mhollisjr> thakn you
[20:28] <rickest> mhollisjr: echo <pkg> hold | dpkg --set-selections
[20:28] <Jonty> Ok: how do I go about reinstalling apt?
[20:28] <flipstar> need to be sudo dpkg --set-selections
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » does dpkg work?
[20:28] <Jonty> I assume /var/lib/dpkg/available is supposed to have stuff in it, right?
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » did you search the forums for similar issues?
[20:29] <lod__air> the thing I don't understand is why the usplash is displayed on the externel mon. but not the primary
[20:29] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: yes, none of the fixes worked or they had different problems
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » is the screen blank during boot or is there text
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » does aptitude work?
[20:29] <lod__air> it displayes Starting up.. and after that goes blank
[20:30] <lod__air> and goes on when gdm/kdm starts up
[20:30] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: I'm tryingdpkg
[20:30] <lod__air> i just tiped usplash in konsole
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » its probably redirecting the output to the external monitor port, and only comes to its senses when kdm starts
[20:30] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: oh hey it works
[20:30] <lod__air> and there was blank screan
[20:30] <Jonty> odd
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » apt0tude works?
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> *aptitude
[20:31] <Jonty> it segfaults as it builds the dependancy tree. no, dpkg
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> aptitude crashes too?
[20:31] <Jonty> I'm assuming it's because I, um, deleted available without a backup
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> oh......no........
[20:31] <Jonty> so
[20:31] <tribaldata> Hi there, anyone good with command line?? I just added a new HDD to my server but i cannot find how to make one big partition and mount it correctly... anyone could help me  ?
[20:31] <Jonty> how do I go about reinstalling :)
[20:32] <lod__air> is there any option to stop the redirect
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » yeah.......
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> tribaldata » read up on the commands fdisk, mkfs and mount
[20:33] <tribaldata> nosrednaekim: cheers will do :) see ya later
[20:33] <MartinCleaver> tribaldata: you could use LVM
[20:33] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, you running hardy ?
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » back up your home DIR.
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj » nope... not yet
[20:33] <tribaldata> MartinCleaver: LVM in console ?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:33] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: is it possible to reinstall apt-get and fix it, or should I just reinstall ubuntu? I've been looking for an excuse to install ubuntu studio :)
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> when it hits beta, I probably will
[20:33] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: it's on a separate partition
[20:34] <MartinCleaver> google LVM - its a flexible partitioning system
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » pfft, then reinstall :)
[20:34] <MartinCleaver> on which I am no expert
[20:34] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: smashing
[20:34] <tribaldata> MartinCleaver: i'm already in it checking the help file seem nice i'll try that also thanks guys
[20:34] <BluesKaj> heh, seems gutsy is in bets , all the crashes I'm having...prolly kde 3.5.9 bugs
[20:34] <BluesKaj> beta
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> Jonty » yeah.. you definately don't want to remove that file.
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj » hrm.. I never update KDE
[20:35] <lod__air> well i gues there's nothing else to do, but to report my problem via bug
[20:35] <lod__air> in launchpad
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> lod__air » yeah... I guess. I don't know how to fix that
[20:35] <Jonty> nosrednaekim: ok. It was a fix on a forum somewhere. Silly poster. I should have backed up, though, I think there was an ok fix later on :(
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... in the future, be careful what you do in regards to apt and dpkg...mostly anything else is recoverable..
[20:36] <jon__> всем привет
[20:36] <jpatrick> !ru > jon__
[20:37] <lod__air> привет
[20:37] <jpatrick> !ru
[20:37] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:37] <jon__> как настроить kopete чтобы он нормально с аськой работал? У меня отображаются пустые группы и ни одного контакта ,(
[20:38] <mhollisjr> is it normal for auto to scale from no sound at 50% to full sound at 100%?
[20:38] <tribaldata> thanks guys i figured it out i got it working via webmin when i doubt there always back doors :)
[20:38] <tribaldata> lol
[20:38] <mhollisjr> I think I'm missing a sound layer volume control somewhere
[20:38] <mhollisjr> auto = audio
[20:41] <arrrghhh> hey all, i'm tryin to get my vpn to work.  looks like i finally got it connected, now how do i tunnel traffic over it?  i have a new ppp0 connection with an IP address issued from my office, and my eth0 connection with an ip from my router.  the traffic is still going over eth0.
[20:41] <rakan> y0 guyz, how come kubuntu repository software is not up-to-date?
[20:41] <arrrghhh> rakan, it's up to date for stable stuff.
[20:42] <rakan> firefox .12 version aint there
[20:42] <Dragnslcr> rakan- is there some specific package that you think isn't up to date?
[20:42] <Dragnslcr> Mine says 2.0.0.12
[20:42] <dewet_> Can someone help me inslalling Wine on Kubuntu
[20:42] <rakan> yup, firefox for example is 2.0.0.6
[20:42] <Dragnslcr> Are you running 7.10?
[20:42] <arrrghhh> rakan, yea, they take a while to catchup.  if you want the newest versions of everything install from the manufacturer.
[20:43] <Dragnslcr> !info firefox
[20:43] <Bauldrick> I can't get Ktorrent to download over 5kb - I open the port on router , do i have to set iptables ?
[20:43] <rakan> yea i am on gutsy
[20:43] <ubotu> firefox (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.12+2nobinonly+2-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8973 kB, installed size 26052 kB
[20:43] <Dragnslcr> If 2.0.0.12 isn't available for you, it's on your end
[20:43] <rakan> i updated the repo just an hour ago and then installed firefox
[20:43] <Dragnslcr> Make sure you've done an update
[20:43] <rakan> that's wierd
[20:44] <dewet_> Can someone help me inslalling Wine on Kubuntu
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> !wine
[20:44] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[20:44] <Lynoure> dewet_: what point are you stuck at?
[20:44] <arrrghhh> Bauldrick, yea you have to configure iptables (i use firestarter) and ensure your ISP doesn't block those ports or place you behind a NAT.
[20:44] <BluesKaj> dewet_, use adept
[20:44] <rakan> dragnslcr: how did u manage to get the most updated version?
[20:44] <dewet_> Did all the thing that suppose to but gives an 404 Error
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> dewet_- 0.9.47 is in the repository?
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> Er
[20:44] <Dragnslcr> dewet_- 0.9.47 is in the repository
[20:44] <SlimeyPete> I have 2.0.0.12 but I've never deliberately updated.
[20:45] <SlimeyPete> Just installed from the repo.
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> rakan- through adept_updater
[20:45] <arrrghhh> rakan, 2.0.0.12 is in the repos... make sure yours are updated.
[20:45] <arrrghhh> i just checked in adept, the version in the repos is 2.0.0.12
[20:45] <dewet_> ?
[20:45] <rakan> arrrghhh: i am telling u i just updated my repo
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> rakan- Do Fetch Updates in Adept, or sudo apt-get update in a shell
[20:45] <arrrghhh> rakan, i'm telling you what i have in my repos.
[20:45] <rakan> i think i should do that
[20:46] <rakan> ok thanks
[20:46] <Bauldrick> arrrghhh: ta, and iptables resets every reboot, yes?
[20:46] <arrrghhh> Bauldrick, i don't know.  i use firestarter.
[20:46] <odinsbane> Anybody having pleasureable experiences with kde4 yet?
[20:47] <rakan> is wine in repo up to date too?
[20:47] <arrrghhh> pleasureable?  meh.  it's pretty, but a lot isn't ready.  they're very open about it at least.
[20:47] <Dragnslcr> rakan- it's at 0.9.47. Dunno if that's the latest
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane » I like it
[20:47] <arrrghhh> rakan, the repos are up-to-date... as up to date as the repos are going to be.  they only add things in there as they can, and are tested as stable.
[20:47] <BluesKaj> latest isn't necessarily best
[20:47] <mhollisjr> latest is 0.9.56, but for hardy it's at 0.9.55 and will not work on hardy with 0.9.55
[20:48] <mhollisjr> and there's no 0.9.56 package yet
[20:48] <arrrghhh> exactly
[20:48] <odinsbane> K I think Ill uninstall it and try again.
[20:48] <arrrghhh> that's why the repo's aren't always up-to-date in the sense that they carry the absolute newest version avaliable.
[20:48] <Dragnslcr> I don't think KDE4 is supposed to be ready for general usage until 4.1
[20:49] <Marbug> I added system guard to my panel, but I ccidently removed CPU and Memory from it, how can I add them beck, or even more ?
[20:49] <dewet_> If I do Everything in the konsole, It did show in the Adept Manager but now there's nothing of Wine Anymore
[20:50] <dewet_> Can u help me with that
[20:50] <hunteke> I've recently bought an intel core 2 duo comp.  Since it's 64 bit, I'd like to install the 64 bit version of kubuntu.  However, all I see for download is PC intel x86, and 64-bit amd64.  Is there something I'm missing?
[20:50] <arrrghhh> Dragnslcr, the reason it's not ready is the backends aren't done.  phonon, plasma, etc.
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » amd64 will work with core2duos
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » Intel "stole" the AMD instruction set
[20:50] <arrrghhh> hunteke, he's right, but i'd stick to x86.  unless y ou want to deal with flash problems.
[20:51] <dewet_> If I do Everything in the konsole, It did show in the Adept Manager but now there's nothing of Wine Anymore
[20:51] <mhollisjr> hunteke: I asked the same question yesterday I can guarentee AMD64 is the correct version, as I'm running it now
[20:51] <Lynoure> dewet_: Do I understand this right: you want to install it from the command-line and need help getting started with the installation?
[20:51] <hunteke> yikers, okay thanks
[20:51] <dewet_> Yes because there is nothing in Adept M
[20:51] <hunteke> so 64 is correct, intel stole the instruction set, (bastards!), but no flash.
[20:51] <Lynoure> dewet_: if so,   sudo aptitude install wine
[20:51] <hunteke> thanks nosrednaekim, arrrghhh, and mhollisjr
[20:52] <hunteke> is flash the only "major" app that I'll be missing?
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » there is flash... I have flash
[20:52] <bertvdp> hi, kubuntu is doing some strange stuff, when I update this clean installation it wants to upgrade to a new version, which new version ? alpha 4?
[20:52] <hunteke> if so I can totally deal with that.
[20:52] <Lynoure> dewet_: if that fails, let me know what error you got, and pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> bertvdp » what version are you running currently?
[20:52] <hunteke> nosrednaekim: then why does arrrghhh claim to have flash problems?
[20:52] <bertvdp> nosrednaekim: 7.10
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » I didn't say there might not be PROBLEMS....but I got it working :)
[20:53] <hunteke> haha, okay
[20:53] <dewet_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:53] <dewet_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:53] <mhollisjr> ugh I want to reinstall down to 7.10 but I don't want to try to get my usb stick bootable agian ><
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> !apt-fix
[20:53] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:54] <hunteke> nosrednaekim: then I suppose I'll have to mucking.  Since you've done the research recently, can you point me to any helpful websites/forums/email archives?
[20:54] <arrrghhh> hunteke, flash works.  it's just difficult.  i had to run a 32-bit browser.
[20:54] <dewet_> That is The Error I'm Getting
[20:54] <arrrghhh> there's no 64-bit flash.
[20:54] <bertvdp> nosrednaekim: I'm on kubuntu 7.10 (amd64 but I tried i386 first and it had the same problem)
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » actually, all I did was run "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> bertvdp » and its telling you there is an update to alpha 4?
[20:55] <arrrghhh> bertvdp, that's a glitch in adept.  once you update adept, it'll go away.
[20:55] <hunteke> arrrghhh: okay, and that's no big deal, since the main reason for 64 bit is memory addressing over what, 2Gigs?  I hope my browser doesn't /that/ much memory!
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » 3.5 gigs
[20:55] <arrrghhh> hunteke, the x86 version will handle the same amount of memory.
[20:55] <BluesKaj> bertvdp, are you using konq web browser or firefox...konq has probs with flash'
[20:56] <dewet_> The  sudo apt-get update worked now
[20:56] <odinsbane> So when I use kynaptic I save a copy of the .deb file.  No I have removed some software do I still have the .deb copy?
[20:56] <dewet_> What must I do now
[20:56] <mhollisjr> hunteke: 64 bit will only start complaining at 4gb at which you'll drop to 3.5ish
[20:56] <nosrednaekim> odinsbane » possibly.... itdbe in /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:56] <hunteke> mhollisjr: excellent
[20:56] <coggz> hi all,
[20:56] <hunteke> so this sounds like it will be fairly painless, modulo 'sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree'  :-)
[20:57] <Oloughlin75> 64 bit handles a lot motr than 4gb
[20:57] <Dragnslcr> mhollisjr- you mean 32-bit
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> hunteke » if it works :)
[20:57] <bertvdp> nosrednaekim, when I upgrade it stops in the middle of it with an error (not doing the update in the right order but I just did the update using a konsole then), and then claims there is a new version (don't know what it is)
[20:57] <hunteke> lol
[20:57] <hunteke> I'm not afraid of mucking about
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> bertvdp » ah..ok, well don't get the newest version
[20:57] <arrrghhh> bertvdp, read what i said.  update adept.
[20:57] <mhollisjr> Dragnslcr: er yeah 32 bit
[20:57] <Dragnslcr> bertvdp- it's a known issue with Adept when 7.10 was released. Just ignore it
[20:57] <hunteke> was looking for some tips, and "OMG DON'T DO THAT!".  Didn't get either, so I'm golden, and thanks for the amd64 iso pointer
[20:58] <hunteke> thanks for all the help.
[20:58] <bertvdp> okey, thanks nosrednaekim arrrghhh and Dragnslcr
[20:58] <Dragnslcr> hunteke- if you have less than 4 GB of memory, just use 32-bit
[20:58] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: theres nothing you CANT do... everything can be fixed ;)
[20:58] <Dragnslcr> Not all software has working 64-bit versions yet
[20:58] <dewet_> The  sudo apt-get update worked now
[20:58] <dewet_> The  sudo apt-get update worked now
[20:58] <dewet_> What must I do now
[20:58] <odinsbane> Hey thanks for the info.
[20:58] <lod__air> apt-get upgrade
[20:58] <hunteke> actually, I bought my new comp with 2 gigs intending to upgrade to 4
[20:58] <hunteke> can I ask y'all a hardware question?
[20:59] <Oloughlin75> !ask | hunteke!
[20:59] <ubotu> hunteke!: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:59] <mhollisjr> hunteke: I had originally planned to get 8gb but newegg ran out of my memory as I was submitting the order ><
[20:59] <hunteke> oh gosh: just /trying/ to stay on topic, hehe, alright . . .
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> BBL guys
[20:59] <hunteke> so I just ought a dell vostro with 2 gigs
[20:59] <coggz> i finally registered!!
[20:59] <hunteke> intending to go to 4.
[21:00] <hunteke> but when I opened it up, all I see is one of the 1 gig chips.
[21:00] <coggz> what are the vosotros like?
[21:00] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: whats the hardware question? :)
[21:00] <hunteke> is the other chip going to at all accessible to me?
[21:00] <dewet_> Lynoure_Please help
[21:00] <mhollisjr> hunteke: you're certain it isn't 1x2gb ?
[21:00] <hunteke> well, unless the label on the chip lied . . .
[21:00] <mhollisjr> hunteke:  ahh -nod-
[21:01] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: did they not put 2gb in?
[21:01] <Dragnslcr> hunteke- what does "more /proc/meminfo" say?
[21:01] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: does it show up as 2GB in your OS?
[21:01] <hunteke> Oloughlin75: no, the bios reads 2 gigs
[21:01] <mhollisjr> that's really odd
[21:01] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: might not be :/
[21:01] <coggz> hunteke: probobly wrong label
[21:01] <hunteke> hehe, actually, to respond to that and to coggz earlier equestion
[21:01] <hunteke> I actually haven't booted it yet
[21:01] <mhollisjr> there's not a fan or something covering the other stick making it hard to see or something is there?
[21:01] <hunteke> I've been having a philosophical battle with dell (that I recently one)
[21:02] <hunteke> since I won't be using windows, I got them to refund it
[21:02] <Lynoure> dewet_: did you do what I told you? What did you get as a result?
[21:02] <coggz> hunteke: what are those laptops like?
[21:02] <hunteke> but in order to do that, I had to decline the EULA on the windows first boot.
[21:02] <hunteke> coggz: I'll tell you when I actually use it
[21:02] <hunteke> it was under dell deals on the small/medium business
[21:02] <coggz> hunteke: oh,lol
[21:02] <hunteke> I've been using an inspiron for the last 3.7 years.
[21:03] <Lynoure> dewet_: I cannot work from "please help" alone, sorry, not without coming there and looking over your shoulder =)
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke:  just boughht one for my father
[21:03] <dewet_> It Give me this
[21:03] <dewet_> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_ZA
[21:03] <dewet_> Reading package lists... Done
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke: i have inspiron 1300
[21:03] <hunteke> coggz: cool, will he be using windows or will you be installing *nix on it?
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke: i ditched windows
[21:03] <hunteke> coggz: we're of teh same ilk, clearly.  :-)
[21:03] <hunteke> coggz: were you able to get them to refund it?
[21:03] <coggz> hunteke:  did you have wireless problems?
[21:04] <hunteke> on the inspiron?
[21:04] <Lynoure> dewet_: that's not a result you get from  sudo aptitude install wine, looks like result from apt-get update.
[21:04] <coggz> hunteke: i used windows for years on it
[21:04] <coggz> hunteke: ya, on the inspiron
[21:04] <Lynoure> dewet_: Did you pastebin your sources.list somewhere?
[21:04] <hunteke> coggz: no, I mean for your father, in regards to refunding windows on his vostro
[21:04] <coggz> hunteke: oh, it has not arrived yet, but he will usee windows for now
[21:05] <hunteke> coggz: but as regards wireless, yes I had problems initially, but then intel/OS community made OS drivers
[21:05] <hunteke> coggz: alright
[21:05] <dewet_> Lynoure_Everything Says Done
[21:05] <mhollisjr> cdl
[21:05] <mhollisjr> oops
[21:05] <mhollisjr> ><
[21:05] <dewet_> when I did the  sudo aptitude install wine
[21:05] <mhollisjr> not bad enough I typed here instead of a console but I messed up what I typed ><
[21:06] <hunteke> well, if anyone is interested in waging a philosophical battle in terms of getting refunded for an operating system you won't be using (because $50-150 is not worth 3+hours on the phone and arguing), take a gander at http://www.linux.com/articles/59381
[21:06] <rakan> do u think dreamweaver would run on linux using wine?
[21:06] <coggz> hunteke: what wireless card does yours have? mine has the dreaded BCMXX ndiswrapper - from source issues
[21:06] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: how much do you think windows actually costs dell?
[21:06] <hunteke> coggz: oh noes! : 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[21:07]  * mhollisjr guesses 15$ a disk
[21:07] <hunteke> Oloughlin75: I don't know, something less than the retail $130 - $200 for WinXp Home
[21:07] <dewet_> Lynoure_How do I Pastebin
[21:07] <mhollisjr> less than OEM too
[21:07] <hunteke> but probably between $50  and $100
[21:07] <coggz> hunteke: lucky, took me  a week to do mine the first time. Fresh from windows... lol
[21:07] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: i bet they spend less than 50 per pc
[21:07] <Lynoure> !pastebin | dewet_
[21:07] <ubotu> dewet_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:07] <hunteke> well, pending a call back, the guy agreed last night to refund me $50 bucks.
[21:08] <hunteke> It's not the money
[21:08] <hunteke> I can't stress that enough, it's not about the money
[21:08] <Oloughlin75> . After working with customer service, I received a refund of $52.50
[21:08] <hunteke> it's the victory for OS and letting dell know that I don't like being forced into an OS
[21:08] <Oloughlin75> oh i know hunteke, but still, why do they charge so much
[21:08] <hunteke> I can't answer that.
[21:08] <coggz> hunteke: i keep my copy incase... also virtual box usoing my copy is good as i need itunes
[21:08] <hunteke> coggz: why do you need iTunes?
[21:09] <Oloughlin75> eww itunes
[21:09] <hunteke> I've found Rhythmbox to be a 100% acceptable, even better app than iTunes
[21:09] <coggz> i fix ipods, as crazy as it sounds, i need itunes to do that
[21:09] <hunteke> and not nearly as memory intensive or DRM laden
[21:09] <hunteke> Rhythmbox can handle iPods
[21:09] <hunteke> I'm not sure what all's involved in fixing 'em however
[21:09] <coggz> i use amarok for MY ipod, but when u have errors, u need certain features of itunes
[21:09] <Oloughlin75> i need a zune alternative on linux :(
[21:10] <hunteke> Zune!?
[21:10] <Oloughlin75> hunteke: yes
[21:10] <coggz> Zune!
[21:10] <hunteke> coggz: I'm curious, what kind of errors?
[21:10] <hunteke> do the iPods get?
[21:10] <coggz> u name it i can fix it
[21:10] <hunteke> coggz: I'll keep that in mind, for next time I get an ipod
[21:10]  * hunteke does /whois on coggz
[21:10] <Oloughlin75> coggz: you dont just reinstall firmware?
[21:10] <coggz> broken hdd's, firmware errors
[21:11] <coggz> not on all, some require opening up, switching parts, need special tools
[21:11] <hunteke> how /do/ you fix the broken hdd?
[21:11] <Oloughlin75> new hard drive
[21:11] <mhollisjr> does cp support previous directory like cd? like for example is this valid? 'cd some/dir/cp filename -'
[21:11] <hunteke> ah, just swap 'em out
[21:11]  * hunteke slaps self
[21:11] <mhollisjr> typo
[21:11] <mhollisjr> is this valid? 'cd some/dir/filename -'
[21:11] <hunteke> mhollisjr: not that I'm aware of
[21:11] <hunteke> no
[21:11] <hunteke> but you could do
[21:11] <mhollisjr> gah another typo lmao
[21:11] <hunteke> cd /path/to/dir
[21:11] <coggz> i picked up a 20gig B+W ipod for £30 today, thats about $60
[21:11] <hunteke> blast
[21:11] <mhollisjr>  'cd some/dir/; cp filename -'
[21:12] <mhollisjr> that's what I wanted
[21:12] <hunteke> I'm not sure
[21:12] <trappist> mhollisjr: not quite, but I think there's an env variable that holds the value of -
[21:12] <hunteke> try it and find out
[21:12] <mhollisjr> -nod-
[21:13]  * mhollisjr attempts to re-prepare his flash stick with gutsy instead of hardy for a reinstall
[21:13] <rickest> $OLDPWD
[21:13] <dewet_> lynoure_This is the URl
[21:13] <dewet_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56993/
[21:13] <mhollisjr> ahh that's it ty
[21:13] <hunteke> ah, brilliant rickest.  :-)
[21:13] <Sybux> Hi all
[21:13] <Oloughlin75> hey Sybux
[21:13] <dewet_> lynoure_That is what I done Last
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> hey Oloughlin75
[21:13] <rickest> hehe, I just cd'd and then: env | grep 'where-I-just-was'   :)
[21:13] <Oloughlin75> sup nosrednaekim
[21:14] <Sybux> Does any1 know how to redirect mail flagged as spam from spamassassin to a folder in maildir ?
[21:14] <Lynoure> dewet_: it shows wine was already installed on your system
[21:14] <Lynoure> dewet_: oh, oops, not.
[21:14] <MartinCleaver> looks like the OS on my machine is about 7GB
[21:14] <Lynoure> dewet_: pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list  too
[21:14] <mhollisjr> you added the repo dewet_?
[21:14] <AndreSTC> how do i change directory on my local machine while connected to a remote machine, by ftp?
[21:15] <MartinCleaver> So, to be safe I'll give 15GB for the new partition
[21:15] <mhollisjr> dewet_: take a peek here http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[21:15] <rickest> AndreSTC: lcd I believe
[21:15] <AndreSTC> thnaks
[21:15] <rickest> AndreSTC: do you want the whole 'ftp is unsecure blah blah blah' thingy?
[21:15] <coggz> where can i ask an off topic question to you guys?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> !ot
[21:16] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:16] <AndreSTC> rickest is it? im new to this stuff =P
[21:16] <coggz> aree you guys on there?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> some are
[21:16] <rickest> AndreSTC: yeah, scp/sftp has pretty much replaced rpc, telnet, and ftp
[21:16] <Lynoure> coggz: go see?
[21:16] <coggz> kk,
[21:17] <mhollisjr> what is the intended difference between /media and /mnt?
[21:17] <mhollisjr> or is /mnt just getting phased out?
[21:18] <Sybux> none, it's just 2 different folder name
[21:18] <rickest> AndreSTC: if you're on a personal LAN w/o port forwarding it's probably ok but anywhere else the others are preferred (plus rsync or 'rsync -e ssh')
[21:18] <dewet_> Lynoure_ /etc/apt/sources.list - Not Working
[21:19] <AndreSTC> rickest i tried connecting with sftp, it said something about key fingerprint... whats that?
[21:19] <AndreSTC> rickest is there somewhere i can read about sftp?
[21:19] <rickest> AndreSTC: hmm, wait one
[21:20] <mhollisjr> is there a program for simulating a boot on a device?
[21:20] <mhollisjr> like if I wanted to test booting off my USB stick without rebooting 25 times, since I probably need to make adjustments?
[21:20] <Lynoure> dewet_: open it, then paste:   kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:21] <rickest> AndreSTC: I thought I had a specific intro marked but I guess not. google 'introduction ssh', should find something decent there
[21:21] <AndreSTC> [rickest]: ok
[21:21] <Sybux> Does any1 know how to redirect mail flagged as spam from spamassassin to a folder in maildir ?
[21:21] <AndreSTC> rickest soh sftp and ssh are pretty much same thing?
[21:21] <AndreSTC> so*
[21:21] <rickest> AndreSTC: fwiw, the key fingerprint is ok, helps prevent man-in-the-middle attacks, etc. most primers will talk some about that
[21:22] <rickest> AndreSTC: sftp is just an ftp-like interface that works over ssh, yes. once you switch, though, most just use rsync, scp, or sshfs for persistent mounts if needed
[21:23] <dewet_> Lynoure_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56994/
[21:23] <AndreSTC> rickest ok
[21:24] <jason> hi
[21:24] <jason> anyone here?
[21:24] <rickest> AndreSTC: http://www.suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf   was popular on Digg
[21:24] <Lynoure> dewet_: seems you only have a cd source.... you'll have to uncomment a pile of lines from that file
[21:25] <jason> how do I make my python scripts executable?
[21:25] <dewet_> Lynoure_It Sows now in the Adept Manager but still dont want to install
[21:25] <rickest> AndreSTC: and fwiw, it looks a lot harder than it is.  You don't need any of the advanced stuff to simply use it
[21:25] <Oloughlin75> chmod 775 i think jason
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> jason » add the line "#!/usr/bin/python" as the first line of the script
[21:26] <dewet_> Lynoure_Ok. What lines will that be
[21:26] <jason> thanks
[21:26] <AndreSTC> [rickest]: ok..i found this one also, http://polydistortion.net/doc/ssh.html
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> AndreSTC- if the server end has sshd running, scp should work automagically
[21:27] <Lynoure> dewet_: wait, I'll give you a link soon
[21:27] <rickest> that one looks good, too AndreSTC
[21:28] <leroux> join #ficken
[21:28] <jason> I added the line, but when I left click it just opens with kate. so I changed it to executable, but no change except now kate doesn't open it
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> jason » its probably executing... what does it do?
[21:29] <Oloughlin75> !find mplayer-*
[21:29] <ubotu> Found: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, kmplayer-doc, python-templayer (and 12 others)
[21:29] <jason> this is the code.  print 5; raw_input('')
[21:29] <Lynoure> dewet_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56996/ is the modified version that will probably work.  you'll need to open the file as root for it to be editable:   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:30] <jason> should print 5 and wait for me to press enter
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> jason » well, thats just gonna hang, becuase there is no way for it to get input
[21:30] <prince_jammys> jason: run it from a terminal
[21:30] <jason> if I run from the command line it works fine
[21:30] <jason> but I wanna be able to click on it
[21:30] <jason> like in windows
[21:30] <Lynoure> dewet_: after saving the changes, do   sudo apt-get clean all    and then   sudo apt-get update
[21:30] <prince_jammys> jason: that aint so easy
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> jason » and have it open a terminal?
[21:30] <Oloughlin75> jason: you need a GUI
[21:31] <jason> IDLE isn't standard for some reason on linux???
[21:31] <prince_jammys> jason: oh i see, you want it to open a terminal
[21:31] <trappist> mhollisjr: ~- is the previous directory
[21:32] <jason> so if I was using pygame to do all my drawing etc I would just put #!/usr/bin/python at the top and mark it executable?
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> yep
[21:32] <jason> but otherwise kubuntu doesn't know that it must open a terminal?
[21:33] <Oloughlin75> is there a way to add places to the menu that appears when you click the computer (next to the K menu)?
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » I don't think so.
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> unless its a subsection of the Kmenu that is separated off.
[21:34] <hunteke> gah, would help if I pasted into the right room, hehe
[21:34] <rickest> Oloughlin75: Right-click the K and do menu editor
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> jason » let me see if there is a way
[21:34] <trappist> mhollisjr: and, see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT to answer your other question
[21:34] <hunteke> (I'm also in #ubuntu . . .and K and U apparently look very similar . . .)
[21:34] <hunteke> bah! upgrading the ram in a vostro 1500 is a little harder: http://pctipguys.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=39&Itemid=36
[21:34] <Oloughlin75> rickest: and what would i change?
[21:35] <rickest> Oloughlin75: I think I read your question wrong, sorry. Thought you wanted to change the menu, not the computer next to it
[21:35] <Oloughlin75> :)
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> jason » you could point a shortcut to it and tell the shortcut to run a terminal.
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> jason » or, right click on the python file, click "open with" type python into the top, tell it to run in a terminal and tell it to remember the file type accociation
[21:38] <creeps> hi all
[21:38] <dewet_> Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56997/
[21:38] <jefferson_> hi
[21:38] <jason> yes that last one worked fine
[21:38] <dewet_> Lynoure_What now
[21:38] <jason> thanks
[21:38] <Undead> dd
[21:38] <creeps> im having trouble accessing my storage drives in my computer
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> jason » you're welcome
[21:39] <creeps> its says its unable to mount
[21:39] <prince_jammys> yep looks like konsole --noclose -e yourscript does it
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> creeps » systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions
[21:39] <creeps> k
[21:40] <jason> I am having some trouble installing my Nvidia drivers for my 8800GT. I have the *.run file for it. I go to init 3 so and run the file with the appropriate commands. But it says that a kernel interface doesn't exist
[21:40] <Lynoure> dewet_: hmm, are you having adept open at the same time? Close it, try again
[21:40] <dewet_> k
[21:40] <rakan> my apache has php.load and .conf in mods_enabled directory but when i try to load php script in browser it asks me to download it
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> jason » why don't you use the restricted-manager?
[21:40] <Lynoure> dewet_: it keeps dpkg resources locked, so it should be closed meanwhile.
[21:41] <solid_liq> jason, you need to install your kernel headers
[21:41] <jason> That requires downloading and I only have 40MB of cap left, it's precious. But I did try that, it doesn't detect a thing
[21:42] <jason> is it big?
[21:42] <solid_liq> jason, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[21:42] <jason> how do I do it?
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> jason » sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:42] <jason> what is uname for?
[21:42] <solid_liq> jason, ^^^
[21:42] <solid_liq> uname shows you your kernel version
[21:42] <creeps> right if add this in konsole thing > sudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow/dev/hda(put number of drive in question here???)
[21:42] <solid_liq> uname -r specifically shows only the 2.6.xx version of your kernel
[21:42] <dewet_> Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56998/
[21:43] <jason> so I just copy paste your command
[21:43] <solid_liq> jason, yep
[21:43] <solid_liq> jason, make sure you run that as root of course
[21:43] <solid_liq> jason, or add  sudo  at the beginning
[21:43] <jason> ok
[21:43] <jason> tnx
[21:43] <solid_liq> np
[21:43] <Oloughlin75> is there a way to search for empty folders?
[21:44] <Lynoure> dewet_: looks good. Now do  sudo aptitude install wine
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75 » yeah.... but let some command line master tell you... i'd have to go read a dozen man pages :)
[21:44] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, of course ;)
[21:44] <creeps> dam it mounts but
[21:44] <flipstar> Oloughlin75: fslint can do that
[21:44] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: and the command is... :)
[21:44] <creeps> now im gettin folder contenst could not be displyed
[21:44] <jason> ok I will try it. brb. thanks
[21:44] <Oloughlin75> !info fslint
[21:44] <ubotu> fslint (source: fslint): A toolkit to fix various problems with filesystems' data.. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (gutsy), package size 67 kB, installed size 580 kB
[21:44] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, a script
[21:45] <flipstar> it has a gui
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> creeps » you need to mount it as a normal user... to do that you need to set the mount permissions to all users
[21:45] <yassine> how to stop compiz please? i forgot the command... :)
[21:45] <Oloughlin75> yassine: kwin --replace
[21:46] <SheeEttin> Anyone running Hardy in here? I'm thinking of upgrading...
[21:46] <ubuntu> can anyone help me figure out why i cant mount a partition containing kubuntu from the live cd? it says hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[21:46] <flipstar> hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> SheeEttin » #ubuntu+1
[21:47] <SheeEttin> flipstar, nosrednaekim: thanks.
[21:47] <creeps> dam is it possible to view any files off a windows formatted hdd
[21:47] <acee1234> is there any way to keep ubuntu from freezing when logging off or restarting x? using ati x1400 restricted drivers im using ubuntu but i got no responce from that channel
[21:47] <creeps> its not a boot drive only ntfs storage
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu » system settings->advanced->disks and partitions, set the drive to be mmountable by all users
[21:47] <jason> It says that I need the libc header files
[21:48] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, for d in $(find . -type d); do NF=$(ls $d | wc -l); if [ $NF -eq 0 ]; then echo "empty : $d"; fi; done
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> acee1234 » yep.... tell gdm to restart X on log-out
[21:48] <creeps> thnx nosrednaekim
[21:48] <acee1234>  acee1234 how
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> jason » run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" its smal
[21:48] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: how
[21:48] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: fslint works
[21:49] <flipstar> jason: then install it.. sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[21:49] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, fslint considers an empty dir to be a filesystem "problem"?
[21:49] <Lynoure> dewet_: I'll soon need to go, so let me know if it worked.
[21:49] <jason> ok so which one should I do? the above option is 13MB
[21:49] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: its an option to search for -- i consider it to be a problem ;)
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> acee1234 » google it... I don't know how to do it with GDM
[21:50] <Oloughlin75> solid_liq: you can search for a bunch of stuff
[21:50] <solid_liq> Oloughlin75, heh, whatever, I just script instead ;)
[21:50] <flipstar> solid_liq: fslint has a lot of options :)
[21:50] <solid_liq> flipstar, pfft
[21:50] <solid_liq> flipstar, flipity-flop, back in my day...!! ;)
[21:51] <ubuntu> how can i access my home folder from the live cd.........is there a way to enter my password from here?
[21:51] <dewet_> Lynoure_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56999/
[21:51] <creeps> woo thnx fellas n ladies if any
[21:51] <solid_liq> ubuntu, you need to mount your hdd
[21:51] <solid_liq> !mount
[21:51] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[21:51] <dewet_> Lynoure_Ok - This is What Happend
[21:51] <ubuntu> solid_liq: it is mounted, it is telling me access is denied
[21:51] <ubuntu> when i try to enter the home folder
[21:52] <solid_liq> ubuntu, type su to get root privs, then try again
[21:52] <creeps> right i can see the files thru disk manger but i can actually view them
[21:52] <creeps> i need a serial off a read me
[21:52] <ubuntu> whats the live cd password
[21:53] <solid_liq> ubuntu, it shouldn't have one
[21:53] <flipstar> there is no
[21:53] <Lynoure> dewet_: congrats, you now have wine installed. and your system will also be getting the security updates and bug fixes you did not get before
[21:53] <ubuntu> su asks for a password
[21:53] <ubuntu> sudo cd doesnt work
[21:53] <flipstar> just enter
[21:53] <creeps> im on some screen saying select mount point path?
[21:53] <jason> why doesn't konquerer run gmail?
[21:53] <dewet_> Lynoure_Thanks, Its Working, Really Appriciate all your Trouble.
[21:53] <Lynoure> dewet_: now you can continue onward starting with Initial Setup at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[21:53] <solid_liq> ubuntu, then try   sudo passwd   and give root a password
[21:53] <flipstar> ubuntu or use sudo -s so you wont be asked
[21:53] <Lynoure> dewet_: You are welcome. :)
[21:54] <Lynoure> I think I'll go get some sleep.
[21:55] <ubuntu> screw it i dont think i have the file i need anyway
[21:55] <jpatrick> !noroot > solid_liq
[21:55] <solid_liq> jpatrick, ?
[21:55] <jpatrick> solid_liq: see pm from ubuntu
[21:55] <jpatrick> ubotu*
[21:55] <solid_liq> jpatrick, it's a livecd, so that idea is a non-issue
[21:55] <bioss> no sound on a hp dv6000 (hda intel) when i were the hedphones works fine but the integrated speakears are not working, if anyone knows whats the problem ?
[21:55] <nosrednaekim> creeps » anywhere in /media will do..make up a name like "/media/drive"
[21:56] <jpatrick> solid_liq: ahh, right, sorry
[21:56] <jason> why doesn't konquerer run gmail?
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> jason » it can... you have to se the browser ID to firefox though
[21:56] <ubuntu> how do i force a partition to unmount
[21:56] <Arwen> ubuntu, -lf
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu » "sudo umount /mount/point"
[21:56] <Arwen> but it'll wreck your fs
[21:57] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: that doesnt seem to work it say sthat it isnt mounted but qtparted says it is
[21:57] <trappist> yeah I only ever use -l on busted samba/nfs mounts
[21:57] <ubuntu> Arwen: im trying to merge 2 partitionds
[21:57] <acee1234> nosrednaekim:  didnt work changed restartserver value to true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf no luck and it canged the gdm theme to a flower...
[21:57] <mhollisjr> does 7.10 come default with compiz installed?
[21:57] <ubuntu> !compiz | mhollisjr
[21:57] <ubotu> mhollisjr: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> acee1234 » lol
[21:57] <Dragnslcr> mhollisjr- Ubuntu does, Kubuntu doesn't
[21:58] <trappist> mhollisjr: did you catch my answers to your other questions?
[21:58] <mhollisjr> gotcha, and umm I might not have one sec
[21:58] <trappist> mhollisjr: ~- is the previous directory
[21:58] <trappist> mhollisjr: and, see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT to answer your other question
[21:58] <acee1234> im going to throw my laptop at an ati programmer
[21:58] <bioss> have anybody had problems with new linux images?
[21:58] <ubuntu> is there a reason the console will say a partition isnt mounted and qtparted says it is?
[21:58] <trappist> acee1234: they're called amd programmers now :)
[21:59] <mhollisjr> trappist: got them thank you
[21:59] <acee1234> easier to hit
[21:59] <trappist> bioss: you talking about kernels?
[21:59] <creeps> omg
[21:59] <bioss> yes
[21:59] <trappist> bioss: not I
[21:59] <creeps> alls i wanna do is look at they read me file
[22:00] <mhollisjr> awesome flash drive is prepared just checking the integrity of the squash and then it's tiem to downgrade
[22:00] <bioss> when i do an update with the new ones i have to use grub to manually select the older kernel to boot
[22:00] <trappist> bioss: because what, the new one doesn't boot?
[22:00] <bioss> no
[22:01] <trappist> afaik the only change in the new one is a one-line fix to a very nasty security hole
[22:01] <flipstar> whats the problem during boot ?
[22:01] <creeps> any idea what is stopping me being able to view theese files
[22:01] <creeps> i can see them in disks manager/ partitions
[22:01] <bioss> Im thinking is got to be that they dont download correctly
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> creeps » do "sudo -i" root should be able to view them
[22:01] <bioss> is there any other way to get them>?
[22:01] <trappist> creeps: how are you trying to view them, and what happens when you try.
[22:02] <trappist> bioss: apt does checksums before installing packages, so a broken download should never cause this problem
[22:02] <flipstar> bioss: there should be checked after download ..
[22:02] <bioss> didnt know that
[22:02] <raul_> #channel
[22:02] <creeps> well i go to my computer and the hdd's are there i cant look in them , but then someone said go into disks / partitions
[22:02] <creeps> and enable mountable
[22:03] <creeps> i did and i can look in files there but not anywhere else
[22:03] <trappist> bioss: maybe check /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if the new kernel has the same options as the working kernel
[22:03] <trappist> bioss: also..... what happens when you boot to the new kernel
[22:03] <bioss> in verbosa?
[22:04] <bioss> it stays black
[22:04] <trappist> huh?
[22:04] <trappist> bioss: after what
[22:04] <creeps> it went disk manager then onto select new mount point path . in there if i click change it shows me whats on the partition
[22:04] <trappist> bioss: let me back up - did you happen to install, say, nvidia drivers without using apt-get? like using envy or from nvidia.com?
[22:05] <bioss> when it starts to boot the computer gfrub starts and everithin seems to be working when grub finishes it stays black
[22:05] <bioss> yes
[22:05] <trappist> bioss: then you'll have to do that again.  new kernel means new video drivers.
[22:06] <bioss> but shuold it reset to x?
[22:06] <mhollisjr> speaking of kernel
[22:06] <trappist> and let this be a lesson to you about stepping outside the package manager :)
[22:06] <mhollisjr> are there any optimizations that I can do such as pre-emptive and such
[22:07] <trappist> bioss: reset to X?  X is set to use the nvidia drivers, which don't work because they're built against the old kernel.  you need new drivers for your new kernel.
[22:07] <creeps> i get this message if i try to view
[22:07] <creeps> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdc1".
[22:07] <bioss> but i dont to even the login screen?
[22:07] <flipstar> trappist: the nvidia drivers need to be build after every kernel update ?
[22:07] <trappist> mhollisjr: with gutsy, I don't think there are any optimizations you can do to make a noticeable difference
[22:08] <mhollisjr> -nod- so the ideal settings would already be compiled by default?
[22:08] <trappist> flipstar: only if you're using the ones from nvidia.com - if you stick with the package manager, you'll get new drivers from the repo via the magic of dependencies
[22:08] <ubuntu> does a swap partition have to be right next to the ext3 partition
[22:08] <hydrogen> no
[22:08] <flipstar> kay thx trappist
[22:09] <trappist> mhollisjr: not ideal for you, but ideal for most users collectively.  you could change some things to improve performance in some areas, but you'd probably never notice the difference, and you'd cause yourself some headaches.
[22:09] <bioss> ok i will try to download the new kernel but is not always that the grub works to getting to the old to boot the system
[22:09] <fevel> hey
[22:09] <fevel> anyone usnig the new kde4??
[22:10] <mhollisjr> well I remember when I used pclinuxos I did make a change to some of the pre-emptive settings, though I forget what exactly I changed, I'd have to look at it, and I did get a noticable performance boost
[22:10] <fevel> better yet...should I??
[22:10] <trappist> mhollisjr: in previous releases they had a low-latency kernel in universe, which helped with some i/o inefficiencies caused by power-saving optimizations for laptops, but the problems that caused it seem to be gone, so there's no more low-latency kernel
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> fevel » yes, Iam
[22:10] <mhollisjr> trappist: ok good deal, thanks for the headsup
[22:11]  * creeps pulls his hair out strand by strand
[22:11] <mhollisjr> one more question, if the CD is doing an integrity check there's no harm in interrupting it correct?
[22:11] <trappist> mhollisjr: preemptive doesn't have a real effect on performance, only an apparent one, because for example i/o operations can be preempted to make sure the mouse cursor moves smoothly.  I think you're currently running a preemptible kernel, but I'd have to check
[22:11] <creeps> i need a coffee
[22:11] <trappist> mhollisjr: right, it's just checking the cd itself against the md5sum of the image
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> fevel » it woks fine here.
[22:11] <mhollisjr> well I do remember having issues with a slow mouse cursor in wine, if that'd improve that I'll have to lookinto it
[22:11] <Daisuke_Ido> have there been any updates to kde 3.5.9 to make it not as bad?
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> heard it slowed things down a bit
[22:12] <mhollisjr> well in my case a USB stick but the question is the same since I doubt it would try to mount what it would assume to be a CDROM as read write
[22:12] <hydrogen> thats kind of a vague and inflamatory question...
[22:12] <creeps> would me gettin wine help me view files on thoose ntfs partitions?
[22:12] <fevel> nosrednaekim: should I be using it?? I installed it and now the hotkeys dont work on the paillion notebook, the wallpaper dissapears after every boot and I get errors opening certain programs and crashes opening gtk ones
[22:12] <trappist> creeps: no
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: it wasn't meant to be, i'm deciding whether or not to reinstall kde
[22:12] <creeps> adrn
[22:12] <creeps> darn*
[22:13] <creeps> brb
[22:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and from the freedesktop things putting stuff where no one wants it, and the alleged slowdown, i'd like to know what i'm diving into
[22:13] <hydrogen> well
[22:13] <hydrogen> without knowing what your actually asking
[22:13] <hydrogen> my answer is
[22:13] <hydrogen> a big vat of warm chocolate syrup
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds yummy
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i guess the real question is: is 3.5.9 an improvement over 3.5.8
[22:14] <hydrogen> one would assume so..
[22:14] <hydrogen> I don't think they went in and broke things
[22:14] <hydrogen> just to have another release
[22:14] <hydrogen> read the changelog
[22:15] <mhollisjr> brb in gutsy
[22:15] <Daisuke_Ido> helpful.  i was asking for personal opinions
[22:15] <trappist> new bugs do get introduced into complex software with new releases
[22:15] <trappist> Daisuke_Ido: I've upgraded, but I haven't restarted X, so I couldn't say personally
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido » from what I heard... it was mostly the inclusion of the enterprise PIM (which Kubuntu already had)
[22:15] <hydrogen> I no longer use kde3.. so couldn't tell you
[22:15] <creeps> right action time again
[22:17] <ubuntu> are the partition numbers in the installationa nd the numbers in qtparted the same numbers?
[22:17] <coggz> is gnome good or bad?
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» yes
[22:17] <trappist> coggz: bad!  all bad!
[22:17] <ahmad> hello, i cant connect to internet using the wireless network, however at Knetwork manager, it detected a wirelssnetwork. it appears that the device is ra0, subnetmask is 0.0.0.0, broadcast is 0.0.0.0,, hidden-no, bandwith is 62 mb/s, signal strentgh is 81, frequency is 2.412, device is inactive, network is not active. can you help me fix this problem?
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> !gnome
[22:17] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[22:17] <flipstar> i didnt noticed a change for 3.5.9 but i didnt payd attention for that
[22:17] <trappist> coggz: seriously, try kde and gnome and decide which you prefer.
[22:17] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: im glad i didnt install then because it was about to wipe out my winodws installation
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> heh
[22:18] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: any idea why im not able to format this unallocated partition?
[22:18] <rakan> i can't get my repo database up to date as i was told here before
[22:19] <rakan> what should i do in order to get the repo?
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu - qtparted has done that to me on several occasions, especially after performing another action
[22:19] <fevel> anyone solve the problems on kde4??
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> !gparted | rakan
[22:19] <ubotu> rakan: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> whooops
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> wrong user
[22:20] <ubuntu> the mount poinbt for a new isntall should be / right?
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> rakan: don't partition anything
[22:20] <Oloughlin75> fevel: what problems/
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> fevel» what problems?
[22:21] <rakan> daisuke_ldo: i noticed it has nothing to do with what i wanted :D
[22:21] <fevel> my specific one ...is that the hotkeys on my hp pavillion notebook doesnt work on it, although it works on 3 and gnome (volume control key, and pause)
[22:22] <fevel> I see other problems like every bootup my wallpaper dissapears
[22:22] <fevel> maybe I installed it incorectly
[22:22] <fevel> hoq can I see the version?
[22:22] <fevel> im really not used to kde and im trying to make the switch
[22:23] <ubuntu> does kubuntu automatically add in a swap?
[22:23] <rickest> ubuntu: yes, if you let it autopartition
[22:23] <rickest> ubuntu: during install, I presume you mean
[22:23] <Daisuke_Ido> might as well install xubuntu-desktop as well :D
[22:24] <ubuntu> its telling me if i do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a swap partition the installation will continue without swap space
[22:24] <fevel> I didnt add any repositories, I just gave it a sudo aptitude install kde4-core
[22:24] <fevel> it seemed to go fine
[22:24] <rickest> fevel: try 'kcontrol' then look in Help->About KDE
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» you need to have a swap partition... at least its reccomended
[22:24] <rickest> fevel: or simply the opening screen of kcontrol
[22:25] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: ive never had to do it manually before
[22:25] <rickest> ubuntu: I don't know. the last one I did I let it do everything and it created swap
[22:25] <fevel> LOL it says kde 3,5,8 although I know its 4
[22:25] <ubuntu> how big of a swap partition do i need?
[22:25] <fevel> because of oxygen and stuff
[22:25] <ubuntu> !swap
[22:25] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[22:25] <rickest> before I've always set it up myself so I only have one experience of letting it handle it and it did
[22:25] <rickest> fevel: hehe, pre-release
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> fevel» you need to log out and log into kde4
[22:26] <fevel> I am
[22:26] <fevel> I logged into kde 4
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> fevel» and if its a kde3 app, it will still say 3.5.8
[22:26] <fevel> and I know its that
[22:26] <rickest> fevel: perhaps the package manager (synaptic, adept_manager, et al) will tell you
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> apt-cache policy kde4-core
[22:26] <ubuntu> how big is the default swap partition
[22:27] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: there is no default size
[22:27] <fevel> it says 3.2gutsy
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> depends on ram
[22:27] <ubuntu> i have 1 gig
[22:27] <ubuntu> how big should i make it
[22:27] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: id make it 1 gig, but thats just me :/
[22:27] <creeps> hello again
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> then i would go with a 1.5 or 2gb swap
[22:27] <fevel> should I add a repository to sources? if so can anyone tell me?
[22:27] <ubuntu> ok cool
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> if you have the space to spare, it can't hurt
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» 1.5gigs
[22:28] <rickest> surprisingly, it made my swap 6GB when I let it do it itself
[22:28] <Oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: he means for swap
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> Oloughlin75» 1.5times the ram is reccomended for suspend/hibernate purposes
[22:28] <Oloughlin75> oooo
[22:28] <ubuntu> swap doesnt need a mount point right?
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» nope
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> so much to install -_-
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i might run out of hard drive space
[22:29]  * Daisuke_Ido giggles like a demon-possessed schoolgirl
[22:29] <ubuntu> ok this still says partition #4 and #2
[22:29] <ubuntu> whatever im gonna trust it this time
[22:30] <ubuntu> if it screwes up my HP restore partition im going to be somewhat angry
[22:30] <ubuntu> wish me luck =)
[22:30] <ahmad> rickest, can you help me fix my wireless connection? icant connect to internet using my wifi, however at Knetworkmanager it appear that ralink 2500 802.11g card mini PCi. the device is rao, subnetmask is 0.0.0.0, broadcast is 0.0.0.0, accespoint is 00:04:29:83:40:82, signal strentgh is 81%, frequency is 2.412 device is inactive and the network is inactive.
[22:30] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> #2? that'd be windows!
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> unless its resizing
[22:30] <ubuntu> i already said next
[22:30] <ubuntu> i dont care if it screws up my windows, i just reinstalled it
[22:30] <ubuntu> i just care about partition # 6
[22:31] <rickest> ahmad: I've never used wireless under linux unfortunately so I have no experience with knetwork. be glad to help with something else but w/l is not my strong point, sorry
[22:31] <ubuntu> i dont have the disks
[22:31] <coggz> bye
[22:31] <ubuntu> ahmad: dont use knetworkmanager
[22:31] <ubuntu> i prefer wicd
[22:31] <ahmad> rickest, thanks.
[22:32] <rickest> ahmad: tho I will say it sounds like you just need to connect to the wireless signal. have you already initiated a connection with the detected network?
[22:32] <ubuntu> im going to have a fun night of installing packages thats for certain =)
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> ahmad» look in the forums.... raLinks have a very common problem
[22:32] <ahmad> ubuntu, what is wicd, i can add that at aplet manager?
[22:33] <mhollisjr> you know I don't care how many times I do it it still impresses the hell out of me that you can use the os while you're installing it
[22:33] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[22:34] <rickest> and frankly, although I used KDE for a couple of years 4 years ago, since then I've been running enlightenment on gentoo so I'm sort of a kubuntu n00b  :-)
[22:34] <ahmad> richest, yup i tried a couple of times but it failed to connect. then i shift to wireless manager, it is out of range.
[22:34] <mhollisjr> er >< system installed too quickly gotta reboot already >< brb again
[22:34] <prince_jammys> hola: did you look at the guide?
[22:34] <rickest> we have one *buntu box in the office but it's a server install with IceWM on top
[22:35] <ubuntu> hopefully reformatting will allow kopete to work now nosrednaekim =)
[22:35] <rickest> ahmad: nosrednaekim's advice might be the next step then
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» well, thats another whole problem
[22:35] <hola> prince_jammys: which guide
[22:35] <ubuntu> yea i know
[22:35] <ubuntu> thats just a hope
[22:35] <prince_jammys> !webcam | hola
[22:35] <ubotu> hola: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:35] <ubuntu> my main reason for reformatting was to free up the over 6 gigs of space floating on my hard drive from past swap partitions
[22:37] <hola> prince_jammys: it seems does not supported but i think that it is a stange thing
[22:38] <ahmad> ubuntu, can you can you help me fix my wireless connection?
[22:38] <prince_jammys> hola: sorry, i don't have one. i only know that guide
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> ahmad» please do not just pick random people
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» lol
[22:40] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: can you feel my pain on the floating partitions/
[22:40] <ubuntu> ahmad: what exactly is the problem
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» no..... but I understand :)
[22:40] <ahmad> nosrednaekim, ok, sorry i'm new to this and also a new user of linux, i'm still familiarizing it. can you help me fix my wireless connection?
[22:40] <ubuntu> hey man, 6 gigs unused,,,,,,,,,,,thats annoying..........there are 2 other partitions totalling 3 megs, even THAT is annying me
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> ahmad» like I said... search the ubuntu forums... it is a very common problem
[22:41] <ubuntu> !wireless | ahmad
[22:41] <ubotu> ahmad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:41] <ahmad> unbuntu, i cant connect to internet using my wifi, but it detected a wireless network with an excellent signal.
[22:41] <ubuntu> why cant you connect
[22:41] <ubuntu> more info please
[22:41] <ubuntu> does your pc blow up?
[22:41] <ubuntu> does it expell cheese when you try to connect?
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> haha
[22:42] <flipstar> ubuntu you should be able to merge partitions without reinstall ..
[22:42] <ubuntu> too late for that flipstar lol
[22:42] <flipstar> nm
[22:42] <ubuntu> but i dont think its possible without reformatting
[22:43] <ubuntu> i tried to resize
[22:43] <ubuntu> it wouldnt let me
[22:43] <creeps> i think ive found my solution
[22:43] <flipstar> qtparted can that
[22:43] <ubuntu> i tried unmounting force unmounting and everything
[22:43] <creeps> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[22:43] <ubuntu> but im at 90% installed so yea too late =)
[22:43] <flipstar> maybe you'll try next time :)
[22:44] <ubuntu> i did try =/
[22:44] <ubuntu> many times
[22:44] <ubuntu> lol
[22:44] <flipstar> oh
[22:44] <ubuntu> even asked in here why it wouldnt let me
[22:44] <ahmad> ubuntu, at Knetworkmanager, it appear that the device is rao, subnetmask is 0.0.0.0, broadcast is 0.0.0.0, accespoint is 00:04:29:83:40:82, signal strenght is 81% frequency is 2.412, device is inactive and the network is inactive.
[22:45] <flipstar> !repeat > ahmad
[22:45] <flipstar> !forums > ahmad
[22:46] <jpatrick> !msg > ahmad
[22:46] <ahmad> ok thanks.
[22:48] <creeps> hmm this aint easy man
[22:48] <Daisuke_Ido> hmmph
[22:48] <Daisuke_Ido> so far so good
[22:49] <Daisuke_Ido> but my previous idiocy caught up with me
[22:49] <creeps> lol doesnt it always tho
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought hey, i'm reinstalling, settings will be the same, i'll back up my /home (hdd was dying) and restore it
[22:50] <evilbug> how can i completely remove kubuntu-desktop?
[22:50] <hydrogen> rm -if /
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> it didn't work so well.  it worked, but i wanted a fresh kubuntu experience
[22:50] <hydrogen> notsomuch!
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: not even a funny suggestion
[22:50] <evilbug> i installed via "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and tried removing by "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" but didn't remove much.
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> !puregnome | evilbug
[22:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, but it knows purekde
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> bleh
[22:51] <flipstar> evilbug: try sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[22:51] <hydrogen> Daisuke_Ido: well, when you considder the fact that 1) I made it interactive, 2) I didn't prefix it with sudo, and 3) The average IQ of people in here is greater than -6, It wasn't that bad
[22:51] <jussi01> evilbug: please ignore what hydrogen said.
[22:51] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: it's still not wise to even recommend that
[22:51] <jussi01> hydrogen: Please dont do that again.
[22:52] <evilbug> :)
[22:52] <flipstar> Daisuke_Ido: its really easy to clone a system..
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> flipstar: yeah, but.
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, i got everything cool now
[22:52] <creeps> oooo why wont it work
[22:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i backed up my ktorrent, konversation, and amarok settings, then dumped .kde
[22:52] <evilbug> so how do i do it?
[22:53] <flipstar> i hate to install every single packet i want..so i just cloned via dpkg --get-selections :P
[22:54] <creeps> anybody ever done this> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[22:54] <flipstar> installing ntfs-3g ?
[22:54] <jussi01> creeps: thats quite old...
[22:54] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | creeps
[22:54] <ubotu> creeps: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:55] <Daisuke_Ido> and now i get the joyous task of resetting things the way i want them (ie. not using konqueror as a browser)
[22:55] <flipstar> thats pretty easy creeps :)
[22:55] <creeps> yeh for you maybe but im a fresh linux noob
[22:55] <creeps> thnx for link
[22:56] <flipstar> its a pretty good tutorial
[22:56] <jussi01> creeps: look at the link from ubotu
[22:56] <hola> prince_jammys: it seems does not supported but i think that it is a stange thing
[22:56] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[22:56] <Oloughlin75> !webcam
[22:56] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:56] <evilbug> any clue on how i can completely remove kubuntu-desktop?
[22:57] <creeps> ahh thnx
[22:57] <Oloughlin75> evilbug: sudo apt0get purge kubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <prince_jammys> sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop? or the above
[22:57] <prince_jammys> can you apt-get purge?
[22:57] <jussi01> evilbug: you can use autoremove, but its dangerous...
[22:58] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys: i think thats what i usually do
[22:58] <flipstar> yes prince_jammys
[22:58] <evilbug> i'll try what Oloughlin75 said :) thanks
[22:58] <prince_jammys> interesting, there's also an option --purge
[22:59] <flipstar> man apt-get |grep purge
[22:59] <jussi01> you can do both iirc
[22:59] <asdfasdfasdf> hi i have kde 4 with kde 3 too, i want to use kde 4.0.1 in spanish how can i do that?
[22:59] <ps3kubuntu> Can i watch divx films installing only vlc player  , or do i have to install w32codecs too ?
[23:00] <ps3kubuntu> in kubuntu 7.10
[23:00] <flipstar> asdfasdfasdf: install kde-l10n-es
[23:00] <creeps> right adding new apps now
[23:00] <asdfasdfasdf> that will work in kde 4.0.1 flipstar ?
[23:00] <flipstar> yes
[23:00] <asdfasdfasdf> okay thank u
[23:01] <flipstar> kde-l10n-es - Spanish (es) localisation files for KDE4
[23:01] <jussi01> ps3kubuntu: I think kubuntu-restricted-extras should get most of what you need
[23:01] <asdfasdfasdf> oh and using adept 3?
[23:01] <asdfasdfasdf> kde 3  i mean
[23:01] <flipstar> i though vlc will come with it own codecs..
[23:02] <ps3kubuntu> jussi01: how can i install them sudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[23:02] <jussi01> flipstar: oh yeah
[23:02] <jussi01> ps3kubuntu: yep
[23:02] <flipstar> asdfasdfasdf: systemsetting>language
[23:02] <jussi01> !avi | ps3kubuntu
[23:02] <ubotu> ps3kubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:02] <asdfasdfasdf> flipstar, no workin, nothing in the dropdown list
[23:02] <flipstar> you have to add it
[23:03] <fevel> hello
[23:03] <creeps> how do i find what version of ubunto ive got?
[23:03] <jussi01> hi
[23:03] <jussi01> !version | creeps
[23:03] <ubotu> creeps: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[23:03] <fevel> how can I get hotkeys on the keyboard to work?
[23:03] <asdfasdfasdf> there i did sudo apt-get install kde-l10n-es :D
[23:03] <fevel> on a notebook
[23:03] <creeps> thnx
[23:04] <ps3kubuntu> thanks jussi01
[23:04] <creeps> Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> fevel- keytouch might do it for you
[23:04] <jussi01> :)
[23:04] <creeps> that the 1?
[23:04] <jussi01> yeah
[23:04] <jussi01> creeps: thats getting old now
[23:04] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam
[23:04] <creeps> yeh just realised
[23:05] <creeps> ill upgrade soon as i can get round my current problem
[23:05] <creeps> which is much bigger
[23:05] <jussi01> creeps: you will probably find upgrading fixes said problem
[23:06] <creeps> no i need to get something off my storage drive for my winbdows install
[23:06] <asdfasdfasdf> to install aps in kde 4 should can i use adept 3 or ill have to do it using a terminal?
[23:07] <jussi01> asdfasdfasdf: for kde4 support please use #kubuntu-kde4
[23:07] <asdfasdfasdf> sorry didnt know
[23:07] <asdfasdfasdf> bye
[23:10] <Oloughlin75> !moblock
[23:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moblock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:11] <Oloughlin75> !info moblock
[23:11] <ubotu> Package moblock does not exist in gutsy
[23:11] <Oloughlin75> are there any alternatives fro moblock?
[23:11] <mrunagi> !universe
[23:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:12] <mrunagi> how do i enable universe and multiverse
[23:13] <hola> im not able to configure my webcam
[23:14] <mrunagi> hola: good luck man webcams and kubuntu do not play well
[23:14] <mrunagi> !dvd
[23:14] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:14] <fevel> I cant install kde4 packages adept says it will possibly break system
[23:14] <creeps> is there anyway i can upgrade to more recent release?
[23:15] <creeps> !upgrade
[23:15] <mrunagi> WHY cant knetworkmanager refresh wireless lists =/
[23:16] <MrJigsaw> wich codecs do i need for kaffeine ?
[23:17] <mrunagi> !codec
[23:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:17] <hola> mrunagi: do you know iin which channel can i ask
[23:17] <mrunagi> !webcam | hola
[23:17] <ubotu> hola: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[23:18] <creeps> is there a upgrade from Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS to 7.20
[23:18] <creeps> or reinstall of newer version?
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: you're better off installing gutsy fresh
[23:18] <creeps> 7.10*
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> here's why: you would have to go through the entire upgrade chain
[23:18] <creeps> gutsy ?
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: 7.10 = gutsy gibbon
[23:19] <creeps> ahhh cool
[23:19] <edju> I hate showing my ignorance in public, but I can't find a package list at ubuntu.com.  I need the hardy deb for alsa.
[23:19] <MrJigsaw> mrunagi: that dosent ahelp at all
[23:19] <creeps> geuss ill dl will have trouble when it omes to burning a dvd for it?
[23:19] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: you shouldn't, no
[23:19] <creeps> gd gd
[23:19] <Daisuke_Ido> MrJigsaw: kubuntu-restricted-extras should do you
[23:20] <MrJigsaw> okay
[23:20] <creeps> is the amd 64bit version gd?
[23:21] <ps3kubuntu> how can i uninstall ubuntu-restricted-extras ? i installed them accidentally , i m using kubuntu :)
[23:21] <ps3kubuntu> i will uninstall them and install kubuntus
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: how much ram do you have?  and do you do a LOT of video rendering, things like that?
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> ps3kubuntu: won't hurt to keep them
[23:22] <ps3kubuntu> i did " sudo apt-get remove ubuntu....." is it enough or i must use --purge or something else ?
[23:22] <creeps> well i got 2.5 gb usually just use 2gb
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: then stick with 32-bit
[23:23] <creeps> i would like to get into more video and art work , i just play around at minute need better apps
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> you're not going to get enough of a performance increase to justify the headaches :)
[23:23] <creeps> ok cool
[23:24] <catomannen> Anyone had any luck installing ubuntu on a K8 neo 4 mobo? I shure haven't, do i need to give up? buy a new mobo?
[23:24] <creeps> will i be able to burn this onto a dvd it looks cd size
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> creeps: which one?
[23:25] <creeps> 7.10
[23:25] <phoenixz> Is the story on this link something we might find back on the Linux desktop ?  http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> right, but what's the actual file?
[23:25] <icanhasadmin> anyone familiar with alsa on SB450 ati hda drivers?
[23:25] <creeps> 7.10 desktop 695 mb
[23:26] <creeps> iso
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that's teh cd, yes
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> there should be a dvd as well
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> either one you can burn as an image to a dvd and it won't matter, the only difference is the number of packages included by default on the disc
[23:26] <mhollisjr> if I installed Ubuntu, and I install the kubuntu-desktop package, am I going to run into compiz issues? or should it work just fine?
[23:27] <creeps> pk thanx daisuke
[23:27] <creeps> ok*
[23:27] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[23:27] <MrUnagi> anyone have msn crash kopete?
[23:28] <Dragnslcr> MrUnagi- there are some known issues, yeah
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> mmm. unagi..
[23:29] <hoisn> hi, when i try to install the 4.0.1 packages, the package  kdebase-bin-kde3 will be removed. does that mean that i cant use kde4 alongside with kde3?
[23:29] <Oloughlin75> what port does konversation use?
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> that all depends
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> Oloughlin75: ... i don't think it does?
[23:29] <icanhasadmin> unless you're sending/receiving files or dccing
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> Oloughlin75- same as any other IRC client, I would assume
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> typically, irc is port 6667
[23:29] <mhollisjr> generally 6000-7000 but it'll use whatever you tell it too
[23:30] <icanhasadmin> right, yeah that
[23:30] <Oloughlin75> lol icanhasadmin
[23:32] <icanhasadmin> :( sorry i'm confused, my sound drivers are still driving me up a wall
[23:32] <fevel> anyone have problems with dependencies installing "kde4" after installing kde4-core
[23:33] <jussi01> fevel: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:33] <creeps> dam that msn virus is a strong 1
[23:33] <creeps> my mate had it for 2 days now
[23:35]  * icanhasadmin eats his sound card
[23:35] <icanhasadmin> maybe if i chew on it...
[23:36] <wsjunior> is there any way to do not show kde4 apps in kde3 menu?
[23:45] <kenro> Is this appropriate to questions on KDE4?
[23:45] <Dragnslcr> #kubuntu-kde4 has better support, I believe
[23:46] <kenro> *groan*
[23:48] <Oloughlin75> is there a way to avtivley view a log? like if it keeps updating, have the terminal keep updating its view?
[23:49] <Dragnslcr> In a shell, tail -f
[23:49] <Dragnslcr> I believe Kate will also reload a file if it's modified
[23:49] <Oloughlin75> Dragnslcr: doesnt seem like it update?
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> tail -f will show new text that gets appended to a file
[23:50] <Oloughlin75> Dragnslcr: even after the command is run?
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> Yes
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> -f, --follow[={name|descriptor}]
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> output appended data as the file grows; -f, --follow, and --follow=descriptor are equivalent
[23:50] <icanhasadmin> WHY IS ALSA SO CRAPPY
[23:50] <icanhasadmin> sorry i'm frustrated loll
[23:53] <Oloughlin75> woooo i think i set up moblock