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[00:55] <jetsaredim> when i dput something into my ppa - how can I see the status of the build?
[01:10] <steveire> jetsaredim: You'll get an email if it fails. I can't seem to see the status of packages before the build completes either.
[01:14] <jetsaredim> so the "all states" thing is really just misleading
[01:19] <stdin> what? https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all doesn't show pending/building states for you?
[01:19] <Hobbsee> jetsaredim: not really - it does include currently building
[01:34] <comperr> heh - I was here before - but I forgot who I was speaking too - who is the pastebinit creator again ?
[01:36] <stdin> comperr: stgraber
[01:36] <comperr> stgraber, ping
[01:36] <comperr> stdin, thank you vm
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[03:27] <jetsaredim> can't seem to get my pgp key uploaded to launchpad
[03:36] <mwhudson> sometimes the keyservers need kicking in the shins
[03:37] <mwhudson> can you fetch your key from keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[03:37] <mwhudson> (i think that's what it's called, anyway...)
[03:38] <Hobbsee> jetsaredim: what error do you get?
[03:40] <jetsaredim> that was the problem
[03:41] <jetsaredim> got the keyserver updated and it worked now
[03:41] <jetsaredim> now I'm trying to build a package from one of my bzr trees into my ppa
[03:42] <jetsaredim> anyone feel like hand-holding me on that one?
[03:42] <jetsaredim> :)
[03:43] <jetsaredim> I tried walking through the PPAQuickStart  guide on launchpad, but it didn't seem to take
[03:50] <jetsaredim> so if i just did a dput and it says "Successfully uploaded packages." does that mean that ppa is trying to build the package?
[03:52] <jetsaredim> ah - got an email saying that my package needs to be signed by an ubuntero
[03:53] <comperr> stgraber, ping
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #194231 in launchpad ""?action=subscribe" should be a HTTP POST operation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194231
[04:04] <jetsaredim> how long does a queued ppa build usually take to build?
[04:04] <jetsaredim> for something that takes less than a minute to build on my desktop
[04:05] <Hobbsee> it gets done almost immediately
[04:06] <jetsaredim> https://launchpad.net/~jetsaredim/+archive/+build/522588
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #194235 in launchpad ""Subscribe" should say "Unsubscribe" when subscribed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194235
[04:25] <emgent> hello people
[04:25] <jetsaredim> how do you build the same package for gutsy and hardy in your ppa?
[04:25] <emgent> someone know url to all list group in launchpad ?
[04:26] <lifeless> emgent: what do you mean
[04:26] <emgent> i'd like see all group listed in launchpad
[04:26] <emgent> but i dont found the correct page
[04:27] <emgent> found...
[04:28] <emgent> sorry :P
[04:28] <jetsaredim> https://launchpad.net/projects/+all
[04:28] <lifeless> thats projects not groups
[04:28] <emgent> https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+teamlist
[04:29] <emgent> it's the correct link :P
[04:29] <jetsaredim> well - there ya go
[04:40] <lifeless> some crack teams around: https://edge.launchpad.net/~logicalfaith
[04:43] <thumper> ??
[04:44] <RAOF> lifeless: How did you discover that gem?
[04:44] <thumper> RAOF: I was about to ask the same thing
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #194243 in launchpad "There i no way to see which members are subsribed to a mailing list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194243
[04:49] <lifeless> emgent asked about the full team list
[04:49] <lifeless> so I peeked out of curiosity. Its the first item.
[04:55] <jetsaredim> how long will it take for my package to be built and put into my ppa?
[04:55] <lifeless> <-------------------------------------------------------> this long
[04:55] <jetsaredim> heh
[04:55] <jetsaredim> been 54 min pending
[04:55] <lifeless> seriously, it depends on the package, on how many other packages are being built concurrently.
[04:56] <lifeless> there could be a problem, let me enquire
[04:56] <jetsaredim> k
[04:57] <jetsaredim> also - how do i go about building the same package on gutsy and hardy?
[04:58] <lifeless> I'm not sure offhand sorry
[04:59] <Hobbsee> different version numbers in debian/control
[04:59] <Hobbsee> also see autoppa
[04:59] <jetsaredim> i built it on two different systems and the tar.gz has different md5sums
[05:10] <jetsaredim> lifeless: was there any backup?
[05:14] <lifeless> jetsaredim: its apparently ok
[05:14] <lifeless> jetsaredim: another person just got their build back
[05:15] <jetsaredim> hmm
[05:18] <jetsaredim> been over an hour now
[05:18] <jetsaredim> https://launchpad.net/~jetsaredim/+archive/+build/522588
[05:22] <jetsaredim> am i missing something
[05:23] <lifeless> yes; limited resources - there is a queue
[05:24] <jetsaredim> ok - so just wait and see
[05:24] <jetsaredim> would be nice to see where you are in the queue
[05:26] <lifeless> https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[05:27] <jetsaredim> odd - 2 idle i386 build machines and 15 in queue
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #194257 in launchpad-bazaar ""Recently imported branches" doesn't just list recent ones" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194257
[06:08] <jetsaredim> lifeless: what does build for superseded mean?
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194262 in launchpad-buildd "Page for build that hasn't finished is cryptic about its status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194262
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #194264 in launchpad "random sort order in ppa contents table" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194264
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #194265 in launchpad-buildd "Page for build doesn't say where in the queue it is" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194265
[06:21] <lifeless> jetsaredim: dunno
[06:21] <poolie> jetsaredim: it means you've uploaded another package
[06:21] <poolie> with a higher version number
[06:22] <poolie> eg if you upload 1.1 and 1.2 to the same distro, 1.1 won't be built
[06:23] <poolie> heh, everyone's beating on ppas
[06:23] <poolie> i want to see the group photo for logicalfaith :)
[06:25] <mpt> jetsaredim, I reported bug 194265 based on your suggestion
[06:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 194265 in launchpad-buildd "Page for build doesn't say where in the queue it is" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194265
[06:25] <poolie> good point
[06:25] <mpt> poolie, what do you mean by "Everyone's beating on ppas"?
[06:26] <poolie> excuse my americanism
[06:26] <poolie> i mean it is being enthusiastically dogfooded
[06:26] <poolie> it seems to be the dominant topic in #launchpad, and just got several bugs
[06:27] <poolie> which i see are from you
[06:27] <mpt> I don't have a PPA, I'm just in a bug-reporting mood
[06:27]  * mpt ducks
[06:28] <poolie> so is launchpad-buildd the right product for ppa ui things too?
[06:28] <poolie> btw you know igc is very very keen on adding a 'component' field to bugs
[06:28] <poolie> for things just like this
[06:28] <mpt> Who or what is igc?
[06:29] <poolie> ian clatworthy
[06:29] <mpt> oh!
[06:29] <mpt> That was the original purpose of tags, iirc
[06:29] <mpt> to avoid the need for never-quite-fitting components
[06:30] <mpt> It's "just" too difficult to add/change/remove tags currently
[06:31] <mpt> (bug 98585, bug 127138)
[06:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 98585 in malone "No tag list/ coordination on bug edit form" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98585
[06:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127138 in malone "Can't add/remove tags while changing a bug's status" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127138
[06:31] <mpt> and to search for interesting combinations of tags (bug 81575)
[06:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 81575 in malone "no way to search for absence of a tag" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81575
[06:33] <mpt> So to answer your original question by way of example, all PPA bugs belong in the Soyuz "project" afaik
[06:33] <mpt> but build-related bugs belong in the launchpad-buildd "project"
[06:34] <mpt> whereas if they were tags, a bug report that was about PPA builds could have "ppa" and "build" tags simultaneously.
[06:38] <poolie> i think ian's desires could be satisfied by tags, as long as there was enough ui to guide people to the right tags
[06:38] <poolie> we wouldn't want people accidentally filing them on {ppa ppas archives build buildd} etc
[06:39] <mpt> yeah, 98585 is the key to that
[06:39] <mpt> an auto-complete menu or a combo box or something
[06:39] <poolie> btw how do you find these bugs when you want to cite them?
[06:39] <poolie> right
[06:39] <mpt> I search
[06:39] <poolie> in what scope?
[06:40] <mpt> in the case of those tag-related bugs, I used the "bugtag" link in the "Tags" box on bugs.launchpad.net/malone
[06:40] <mpt> Ah, tell me about this
[06:40] <poolie> ?
[06:41] <mpt> Pretend I didn't just tell you that
[06:41] <mpt> How would you have tried to find them?
[06:41] <mpt> (Or would you not have bothered?)
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #194266 in launchpad-buildd "Upload and build queue table can get massively wide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194266
[06:41] <mpt> I ask because fairly often I get people asking me "is there a bug about X"
[06:42] <mpt> So apparently it's difficult, or slow, or non-obvious to search for bug reports
[06:42] <mpt> in a way that I'm blind to.
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #194275 in launchpad-buildd "don't remove outdated binaries if they are needed for dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194275
[07:37] <Fujitsu> I don't like the sound of that.
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[08:18] <mdke> when rejecting proposed members, is there any way to do it by bulk? With the same message? We need to do 926
[08:19] <Nafallo> alter the field in the database?
[08:19]  * Nafallo hides
[08:19] <Fujitsu> mdke: I'm fairly sure there isn't.
[08:19] <Fujitsu> What Nafallo said.
[08:19] <Fujitsu> mdke: ubuntumembers?
[08:19] <Fujitsu> I recall that list being gigantic.
[08:20]  * Fujitsu thinks there should be an API to do that in the next couple of months, but not yet, unfortunately.
[08:20] <mdke> i thought an LP admin might be able to do it with a script
[08:21] <Fujitsu> You could probably write a bit of a script to do it, if someone doesn't already have one.
[08:22] <mdke> well, I certainly wouldn't know how, although I could supply the rejection message, of course
[08:30] <mdke> i'll maybe open a question in the answer tracker
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[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #194313 in launchpad "Packages starting with number sorted before no package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194313
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #181312 in apt-file "Please provide Contents-ARCH.gz for all sources" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181312
[11:31] <mcr-joe> hello, i need help! my ppa won't work!
[11:31] <mcr-joe> i activated it and abotu 1/2 hour ago accept the agreement
[11:33] <mcr-joe> oh found out why
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #194333 in ubuntu "Useless use of cat in bug report form (dup-of: 185897)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194333
[12:23] <frenchy> Sorry for being dumb, I've created a poll with today's date ... blah, blah, blah ... you know how the story ends, right?  Is a LP developer/admin/maintainer able to delete it for me?
[12:26] <kiko> frenchy, oh, hrm.
[12:26] <kiko> frenchy, can you ask an lp question (see /topic)?
[12:29] <frenchy> kiko: Yep, will do, thanks.
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[12:36] <frenchy> kiko: Done, thanks again.  Any luck with why I can't delete my VCS import?  Or maybe I should ask this on "answers" also?
[12:38] <kiko> frenchy, what's the VCS import? have you moved to bzr?
[12:40] <frenchy> kiko: Yeah, we had a brief discussion about it a few days ago.  I couldn't get to a particular page in LP even though I owned it and when you tried to delete it, it generated an OOPS.
[12:40] <frenchy> kiko: Sound familiar, or o you need more.
[12:41] <frenchy> *do
[12:41] <kiko> frenchy, ah, right! remind me the name of the project again?
[12:41] <frenchy> kiko: Me TV (me-tv)
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[12:43] <frenchy> kiko: Since then I've discovered that the translations are attached to this branch.
[12:43] <frenchy> kiko: Anyway, it's not a big deal to me.  I just like to keep things tidy.  I can like with it.
[12:44] <frenchy> *live
[12:45] <kiko> my favorite featured project!
[12:45] <Hobbsee> what, launchpad?
[12:45] <kiko> frenchy, hang on. translations aren't attached to branches. they are attached to series. 
[12:46] <kiko> frenchy, I've deleted your vcs import
[12:47] <kiko> frenchy, but why are your translations hooked up to a separate series? they should be on your development series!
[12:49] <frenchy> kiko: Yeah, I know.  I switched over to using stable/development a while ago but I'm not sure how to bring the translations across.  This is really an issue with me not understanding the way whole thing works.
[12:49] <mcr-joe> hiya, how do i change debuild to use gutsy for distrubtion and not unstable
[12:49] <kiko> frenchy, no worries. I think we can move them across, but I need to ask danilos. 
[12:50] <kiko> danilos: ^^^
[12:50] <frenchy> kiko: Ta.
[12:50] <Fujitsu> mcr-joe: Change the distribution in the changelog.
[12:50] <frenchy> mcr-joe: I'm a noob but don't you just change the distro in the debian/changelog.
[12:50] <kiko> frenchy, do you want the unstable series deleted?
[12:50] <mcr-joe> okay
[12:51] <mcr-joe> thnx
[12:52] <frenchy> kiko: What do you think is best practice, "unstable" or "development"?
[12:53] <kiko> frenchy, the name doesn't matter as much as long as you have one only :-)
[12:53] <frenchy> Ha
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[12:53] <kiko> I'll get rid of unstable as it is unused
[12:54] <danilos> kiko: sure, we can move them across
[12:54] <frenchy> kiko: I think that "development" most accurately reflects.  Please delete "unstable".  Thanks muchly.
[12:54] <danilos> kiko: unfortunately, it would have to be done manually afaik
[12:55] <frenchy> danilos: kiko: Yeah, sorry ... I started out with the SVN mentality but then switched to bzr.
[12:55] <kiko> danilos, can you help us with the SQL?
[12:55] <frenchy> when I came across from SF.
[12:55] <kiko> no worries
[12:56] <danilos> kiko: actually, maybe just doing it over https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/me-tv/translations/+pots/me-tv/+admin should do (if we don't want to keep the old series as well)
[12:57] <kiko> danilos, hah, it seems to have worked!
[12:57] <danilos> kiko: cool (I thought you wanted them copied first)
[12:58] <frenchy> kiko: danilos: looks good to me!
[12:58] <frenchy> kiko: danilos: But I didn't have access to that page, should I have had?
[12:59] <danilos> frenchy: great, if you have any problems, feel free to ask :)
[13:00] <frenchy> kiko: danilos: Awesome, thanks dudes.  Keep up the good work.
[13:00] <kiko> frenchy, so normally this stuff is best handled by admins as the forms are evil
[13:01] <kiko> frenchy, just finished up cleaning up your series and blueprints. reload and see what you think.
[13:01] <frenchy> kiko: ok, thanks heaps.
[13:01] <danilos> frenchy: it might make sense to have a separate page to actually move translations from one series to the other, so if you feel like it, please file a bug :)
[13:02] <frenchy> danilos: Are you suggesting that I raise this as a blueprint?
[13:02] <frenchy> danilos: Or s a bug better?
[13:02] <frenchy> *is
[13:03] <kiko> a bug would be better, but I am not sure it's worth filing
[13:03] <danilos> frenchy: well, a blueprint is probably more suitable, but people generally file bugs, and we make them into blueprints as needed
[13:03] <kiko> danilos, I mean, would the user really understand what he was doing?
[13:03] <kiko> wouldn't he expect the translations to be cloned or something, for instance
[13:03] <danilos> kiko: well, if we had a simple form of 'move all translations under [combo box showing possible serieses]'
[13:04] <danilos> kiko: perhaps, but that's another checkbox away 'copy instead of move'
[13:04] <danilos> kiko: though indeed, you are probably right that 'moving' itself wouldn't make much sense, it's basically an administrative fix
[13:06] <frenchy> kiko: That's very nice and shiny thank you.
[13:10] <kiko> frenchy, you're welcome. btw, do you not offer tarball downloads, just packages?
[13:11] <frenchy> kiko: I have them at https://edge.launchpad.net/me-tv/+download.  Is that the wrong place?
[13:11] <frenchy> kiko: It's in the watch file and works when I use uscan?
[13:11] <kiko> frenchy, no, that's fine, but it's not linked to from http://me-tv.sourceforge.net/download.html :)
[13:13] <frenchy> kiko: Good point. Yeah, people have to know to go to the project home page (which is linked from http://me-tv.sourceforge.net/).  I'll add that now.
[13:14] <kiko> frenchy, btw, bac's working on making the downloads available from the project home.
[13:14] <frenchy> kiko: Are you a DVB user yourself? (Is this too off-topic for here?)
[13:15] <frenchy> kiko: Has anyone suggested a dput upload for it?
[13:15] <kiko> frenchy, uhm, no. could you use dput to upload tarballs? 
[13:15] <kiko> frenchy, I don't even know what a DVB is! I was just asking my office-mate
[13:16] <frenchy> kiko: probably not, but  ... hmmm ... I'll shut up now.
[13:16] <kiko> frenchy, what sort of hardware do I need to use it?
[13:16] <Toobaz> hello everybody. If since 4 days I'been waiting for 2 translation files (https://translations.launchpad.net/gueic/+imports) to get reviewed, do you think I should "ping" someone or just wait?
[13:17] <kiko> danilos, see Toobaz'?
[13:17] <frenchy> kiko: A DVB tuner.  It's just that you said before "my favorite featured project!". Where you talking about LP>
[13:17] <frenchy> ?
[13:17] <kiko> frenchy, I like the way it has activity
[13:17] <kiko> frenchy, and the general idea and screenshots look cool
[13:17] <kiko> don't make fun of me now :)
[13:18] <danilos> Toobaz: we generally get to them in a week's time
[13:18] <Toobaz> ok
[13:18] <frenchy> kiko: Or was that just because it was "Ghost in the Shell"?
[13:18] <kiko> heh
[13:19] <danilos> Toobaz: you are developing gueic in LP directly, right? (if so, I can approve it right away, otherwise, it requires some digging into, what I don't have time right now for)
[13:19] <frenchy> kiko: LP has been a real ... ummm ... launchpad for the project.  So a big thanks to you guys.
[13:20] <Toobaz> danilos: yes
[13:20] <kiko> frenchy, you're welcome -- that's pretty cool
[13:21] <danilos> Toobaz: cool, should be imported in a few minutes
[13:24] <frenchy> One final general thing, why do Blueprint rate so high in Karma?  I spend about 1/20th of my time in blueprints but it seems that it's the cause of my >40K karma.  I spend a lot of time in bugs and code.  It seems unfairly weighted.
[13:26] <Hobbsee> frenchy: try translations instead
[13:28] <frenchy> Hobbsee: Sorry, I don't understand.  Are you saying that translations are also very low karma then I agree.
[13:28] <frenchy> Actually it seems just that blueprints are high.
[13:29] <Hobbsee> frenchy: translations used to be very high
[13:29] <danilos> Toobaz: btw, you should probably use the same path for the .pot file and .po files if you want them automatically approved
[13:30] <danilos> Hobbsee: with the accent on 'used to be' :)
[13:30] <Toobaz> so? I upload them again?
[13:30] <Toobaz> or I just reupload the .po?
[13:31] <danilos> Toobaz: well, I've approved it manually now, but if they don't get auto-approved in a few hours after your next upload, please make sure the paths are corresponding, or that you import them directly under a new template
[13:31] <danilos> Toobaz: you may also want to set "uses translations officially" to actually let others see the template now (since it's been imported)
[13:32] <Toobaz> ehm... where?
[13:32] <Toobaz> it will be enabled when files will be approved?
[13:33] <danilos> Toobaz: files have been approved and imported
[13:33] <Toobaz> ok, I see. Where can I find the "uses translations officially" flag?
[13:34] <danilos> Toobaz: somewhere in the project settings, not sure myself :)
[13:35] <frenchy> Hobbsee: Oh, now they seem normal.  As I said, just the blueprints.  Not that I'm complaining, it just seems unfair to other guys helping me out with bugs.
[13:36] <danilos> Toobaz: btw, I've provided a Serbian translation while at it, but a lot of messages need translator comments so translators know the context of the message
[13:38] <Toobaz> mmhhh... I'm not an expert (and indeed thank you very much), I just thought translators figure out the context by using the app. I'll see how to add comments
[13:39] <Toobaz> danilos: can't find the flag... are you sure it won't be "on" by default once po/pot files will be imported (actually, their status page says "Will be imported into...") ?
[13:40] <danilos> Toobaz: yep, I am sure (all files have already been imported)
[13:41] <danilos> Toobaz: try at https://launchpad.net/gueic/+edit
[13:41] <Toobaz> ooops... thank you very much
[13:42] <danilos> Toobaz: as far as translations go, using an app helps, but reduces speed of translation; you should be able to just add comments before the strings in the python source code to get them into .pot file
[13:42] <Toobaz> wow
[13:43] <danilos> Toobaz: also, it is indeed hard sometimes to translate from one language to another (eg. Slavic languages are very filled with declensions, and it's almost impossible to provide correct short translations for strings like yours); my recommendation is to listen to translators and try to work with them to construct better strings :)
[13:43] <Toobaz> sure
[13:44] <Toobaz> hints?
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[14:15] <kiko> Toobaz, just finished translating to portuguese
[14:16] <kiko> Toobaz, I have a question
[14:16] <Toobaz> yes
[14:16] <kiko> Toobaz, when you say "Ring:" is it the verb or the noun?
[14:16] <Toobaz> the noun
[14:17] <Toobaz> although maybe this string could be something better
[14:17] <kiko> okay
[14:17] <Toobaz> but I didn't have better ideas
[14:17] <kiko> maybe "Ring tone" or "Ring sound"?
[14:17] <Toobaz> no
[14:18] <Toobaz> it really should mean the alarm happening itself
[14:18] <Toobaz> well, in Italian it's "squillo"
[14:18] <kiko> maybe Alarm: ? :)
[14:19] <jetsaredim> if i upload a source.changes file of a package marked as hardy in its changelog from a gutsy machine - what release will it be built for?
[14:20] <Toobaz> yes, maybe "alarm" is the right thing... it just seemed too generic, but I can't figure out anything better
[14:21] <jetsaredim> also - if I had a build failure - is there a way to purge the files that were uploaded?  such as the tar.gz, etc?
[14:21] <Toobaz> I just wanted to give the difference between the generic alarm - which can, for example, ring every hour - and the "single time" alarm
[14:22] <Toobaz> anyway - just changed to "Alarm:"
[14:28] <kiko> jetsaredim, if you upload to the default dir, to hardy, I believe.
[14:28] <kiko> jetsaredim, you can request removal of those,sure.
[14:29] <kiko> Toobaz, ah, maybe "Repeat:" or something like that? I guess it depends on the control which comes after it.
[14:29] <Toobaz> no, the point is that it just doesn't repeat, it is a single-time alarm
[14:29] <Toobaz> and in the control after, you just say when it happens
[14:29] <kiko> right
[14:30] <Toobaz> how would you call the "sound" of an alarm?
[14:30] <jetsaredim> kiko: I just did what I thought was the standard PPA thing - was following the PPAQuickStart guide
[14:30] <kiko> bell? or sound?
[14:30] <kiko> jetsaredim, sure.
[14:30] <Toobaz> mmh..
[14:31] <Toobaz> no, ok, let's leave "Alarm:"
[14:31] <kiko> maybe Ring at: ?
[14:31] <Toobaz> YEAH
[14:32] <kiko> in portuguese "Tocar às:"
[14:32] <Toobaz> ok
[14:32] <Toobaz> (does "às" intend a date, a time, or both?)
[14:32] <kiko> a time
[14:32] <Toobaz> mmhh...
[14:32] <Toobaz> no
[14:33] <kiko> if it's a date it would be "em" I guess
[14:33] <kiko> Toobaz, ala?
[14:33]  * kiko fudges italian
[14:33] <Toobaz> I don't know what "ala" and "fudges" mean...
[14:33] <jetsaredim> kiko: how do I request this "purge"?
[14:34] <kiko> jetsaredim, Delete packages?
[14:35] <jetsaredim> I did
[14:35] <jetsaredim> but for some reason the files are still there
[14:35] <jetsaredim> https://launchpad.net/~jetsaredim/+archive?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=superseded
[14:36] <kiko> jetsaredim, it's because it takes some time for them to be deleted.
[14:36] <jetsaredim> if I try to re-dput the package up to try to rebuild it keeps getting rejected due to md5 mismatch with the files already there
[14:36] <jetsaredim> hm ok
[14:40] <Toobaz> kiko: if I start every translation comment with "# TRANSLATION: ", should this tag itself appear into the comment in the po files?
[14:41] <Toobaz> (I'm asking because it does)
[14:41] <kiko> Toobaz, hmmm, I don't know. danilos does though.
[14:42] <kiko> cprov-out, jetsaredim just needs to wait, right?
[14:42] <Toobaz> oops, true
[14:42] <danilos> Toobaz: yeah it will appear as well, but that should be too much of a problem (i.e. just make it "# Translators: this is blah blah...")
[14:42] <danilos> s/should/shouldn't/
[14:42] <Toobaz> ok
[14:48] <cprov-out> jetsaredim: the rule is simple, when the tarball reference disappear the details section (the hidden box) you can upload the same version again with different content, otherwise just bump the version and continue your life. FYI, the source will be removed tonight, around 3:00 UTC. 
[15:14] <Toobaz> danilos, it happened exactly what you warned me about: the new translation files I'm uploading are in "need review" state and I got the "waiting for an admin" state. But I did check that the path is corresponding.
[15:15] <danilos> Toobaz: it takes a few hours for them to be auto-approved (at most 6 if you hit a really bad time when the previous run just finished), if that doesn't happen, please ping me again
[15:16] <Toobaz> ok, no problem... but in this case the launchpad message speaking about "admin" is quite imprecise. Anyway, thank you.
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[21:51] <RainCT> Hi
[21:51] <RainCT> is there some way to upload a file to a project on Launchpad other than the web interface?
[21:52] <RainCT> I'm trying to upload a 12MB tarball but get always a "Please try again   Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." page
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[22:12] <Rinchen> RainCT, did you get a LP error or was it a browser timeout?
[22:12] <Rinchen> bac, ^^
[22:14] <RainCT> Rinchen: LP error
[22:14] <bac> RainCT: Hi,the web interface is the only method.  I'll look into it.
[22:14] <Rinchen> RainCT, did you get an OOPS number by chance?
[22:14] <bac> RainCT: what project were you uploading to?
[22:16] <RainCT> bac: freevial
[22:16] <RainCT> and there is no OOPS :/
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[22:17] <RainCT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4902/plain
[22:17] <Rinchen> RainCT, thanks.
[22:18] <bac> RainCT: and you did try several times?  we're checking to see if there was an intermittent outage. what time did you have the problem?
[22:20] <RainCT> twice, it was when I got it the second time when I asked here
[22:21] <RainCT> (and there were probably some time between the two tries, as I left it running and went away)
[22:21] <RainCT> *was
[22:22] <RainCT> (and then tried the 2nd time when I came back)
[22:27] <Rinchen> RainCT, this is very interesting. Thanks for reporting it.
[22:28] <RainCT> Rinchen: no problem :)
[22:28] <RainCT> any idea about how long you thing it could take to get fixed?
[22:30] <Rinchen> RainCT, not yet. :-(  The page you are seeing only comes up in rare circumstances. 
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[22:44] <RainCT> uploaded now :)
[22:45] <bac> RainCT: yes, i just completed a test upload of a 13M file
[22:46] <bac> RainCT: how many times did your upload fail?
[22:47] <RainCT> two
[22:49] <mthaddon> RainCT, could you be any more specific about the timing of the 2 failures - it would really help us narrow down what might have gone wrong?
[22:49] <mthaddon> s/timing/time
[22:52] <RainCT> the second try failed around 22:45.. I might have started uploading it 10 minutes before or something like that, but I don't really know :/
[22:53] <mthaddon> RainCT, thx - that helps in any case
[22:53] <mthaddon> RainCT, which timezone are you?
[22:53] <RainCT> er, right.. UTC+1
[22:53] <mthaddon> thx
[22:53] <RainCT> np
[22:55] <Ubulette> woo, nice, ppa build logs now say: "Build started not available  on an unknown build machine"
[22:58] <Ubulette> unknown builder which is apparently not ntp synchronized. 
[22:58] <Ubulette> (49 s in the future)
[22:59] <Rinchen> Ubulette, awesome. Can you take a screenshot of that and send it to launchpad-users please?
[22:59] <Rinchen> Ubulette, I'll see if someone might look at that next week.
[23:00] <Ubulette> too late
[23:00] <Rinchen> Ubulette, ok, I'll copy & paste into an email.  
[23:00] <Ubulette> that was samarium btw
[23:00] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all
[23:02] <Rinchen> RainCT, what browser are you using?
[23:02] <Ubulette> it's fast now, i like it
[23:02] <RainCT> Rinchen: latest Firefox 3 from Hardy
[23:03] <Rinchen> RainCT, great thanks.  We found what appears to be a related error msg.  Trying to make sense of it now.
[23:11] <Rinchen> RainCT, we think we have it narrowed down to an apache issue (there's a bug filed against apache for something that we think might be the same). We're going to have our system admins look at it next week.
[23:13] <RainCT> Rinchen: great, thanks :)
[23:17] <RainCT> good night
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