[00:01] <npurciful> i dont know
[00:03] <AtomicSpark> hello. so i am curious. what is mythtv for? is it just for recording tv programs or can it be used for more if one doesnt have a tv tuner?
[00:03] <npurciful> music, weather, rss
[00:04] <npurciful> just to name a few
[00:04] <AtomicSpark> interesting. so its like media center for xp?
[00:05] <npurciful> yeah
[00:05] <npurciful> take a look at the plugins page http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Plugins
[00:12] <lime4x4> is it possble to check how vnc is configures thru command line?
[00:20] <superm1> Rigolo, oh that's less useful
[00:20] <superm1> at least submit it with a copy by hand then
[00:20] <superm1> of /var/log/installer/debug
[00:20] <superm1> and /var/log/syslog
[00:20] <superm1> in the installer
[00:21] <superm1> env
[00:21] <npurciful> hows it goin superm1
[00:21] <superm1> eh alright
[00:22] <npurciful> cool, man it is dreary here
[00:22] <npurciful> and cold
[00:23] <npurciful> i final got my sound setup right in mythtv, so it send dts raw to my reciever
[00:24] <npurciful> i been screwing with it for weeks
[01:02] <npurciful> rhpot1991: you there
[01:09] <rhpot1991> npurciful: whats up
[01:09] <rhpot1991> ?
[01:16] <npurciful> allright back
[01:16] <npurciful> hey rhpot1991 i been using dd_rhelp and it created 1.5gb log file
[01:16] <rhpot1991> sounds like your disc is in bad shape maybe?
[01:17] <rhpot1991> how big did the iso get?
[01:17] <npurciful> 4g
[01:17] <rhpot1991> is that how big the disc is?
[01:17] <npurciful> yes
[01:18] <rhpot1991> it gets to a point where it will only hit errors, and you can ctrl+c it at that point
[01:18] <rhpot1991> and it should be good then, you don't need to let it run all the way
[01:18] <rhpot1991> it will skip over gaps when it encounters errors and revisit them later
[01:18] <rhpot1991> sounds like its prob about done, try the iso and see if it works
[01:18] <npurciful> okay it is like 99.8% parsed and 60% sucess / 40% err
[01:19] <rhpot1991> let me see if I have any logs
[01:22] <rhpot1991> my logs are much smaller than that, yours was prob just grinding on errors for a while
[01:22] <rhpot1991> how long did you let it run?
[01:23] <npurciful> 24hour
[01:27] <rhpot1991> ya, thats a bit much
[01:27] <rhpot1991> I normally run mine when I go to bed and stop them when I wake up
[01:27] <rhpot1991> so like 5 hours give or take
[01:31] <npurciful> okay
[01:55] <TelnetManta> Anyone know what could cause myth to crap out when trying to display video. This is on a (previously) working system. I use DVB and cant even get my unencrypted channels to display video now.
[01:55] <TelnetManta> superm1: ?
[01:57] <npurciful> frontend logs
[07:51] <Rigolo> superml: I updated the crash bug report with the /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/debug files
[08:14] <Rigolo> superml: I updated the crash bug report with the /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/debug files
[08:43] <Rigolo> an update on the DVB-C issue that I'm dealing with
[08:43] <Rigolo> just did an clean install of mythbuntu 7.10
[08:44] <Rigolo> that is using mythtv 0.20.2-oubuntu10
[08:45] <Rigolo> import of channels.conf gives my the 6 channels as expected
[08:46] <Rigolo> the channel numbers are now correct (as in they use the numbers as given by my cable operator, not the serviceid that is shown in alpha 2
[08:46] <Rigolo> I can not watch tv ... again the channels are linked to the incorrect transports
[08:47] <Rigolo> ALL transports have netid 1000 ... some transports are double in the list
[08:48] <Rigolo> the double transports are the ones that are really needed (based on the channels.conf data)
[08:48] <Rigolo> updating the channel table to point the channels to the "correct" transport in dtv_multiplex DID NOT solve my TV watching problem
[08:49] <Rigolo> now going to update the netid's in the dtv_transport table to the correct netid for only those 4 transports that I need
[08:53] <directhex> channels.conf doesn't store full network id info, which is one of the reasons it's disrecommended for digital tv
[08:55] <Rigolo> directhex: I know .. but scanning gives me even worse results I guess ..
[08:55] <Rigolo> updating the netid's in the dtv_multiplex also does not give me lock
[08:55] <Rigolo> double checking now ith czap if I can still get a lock
[08:56] <Rigolo> czap can get a lock
[08:56] <Rigolo> I could try a full scan .. let's see what that brings
[09:00] <Rigolo> just noticed that the 4 "correct" transports do not hava a symbol rate .. going to fix that and then try again to tune :-)
[09:05] <Rigolo> well .. that did not help either ....
[09:05] <Rigolo> so now going to remove all transports and do a full scan ...
[09:07] <richard> have a question about schedules direct...
[09:08] <richard> works fine except not showing channel names or call signs... schedule otherwise fine...
[09:09] <patrick_> The greeter application keeps crashing.  Attempting to use a different one.   ?
[09:26] <Rigolo> full scan only scans one frequency .. and adds a couple of transports but not all .. so that also does not help
[09:26] <Rigolo> I think there is nothing else to do then to manually set up all the transports and channels
[09:31] <Rigolo> well... going back to alpha 2 ... and continue testing there :-)
[10:56] <mamessner_> Hello?
[10:56] <mamessner_> Anyone there?
[10:57] <Rigolo> not many
[10:57] <mamessner_> Hi
[10:57] <mamessner_> I have a question
[10:57] <Rigolo> try me
[10:57] <mamessner_> Is it easy to set up MythTV if I don't need to record TV?
[10:58] <mamessner_> I just have videos, pictures, and music on my computer I want to view on a TV
[10:58] <mamessner_> Is there a better program for something like that?
[10:58] <Rigolo> mythtv should be able to do that ....
[10:59] <Rigolo> there are add-on's for pictures etc
[10:59] <mamessner_> It's so hard to set up, though - is there anything easier?
[10:59] <Rigolo> what are you using to set it up?
[10:59] <mamessner_> I added the frontend and backend, and it was looking for a MySQL database for something
[11:00] <Rigolo> what distribution are you using? what linux version?
[11:00] <mamessner_> I'm using the package manager - that's about all I know how to use
[11:00] <mamessner_> Ubuntu 7.10
[11:00] <Rigolo> and is this a dedicated machine? or your own desktop ?
[11:00] <mamessner_> I guess I could make it a dedicated machine.  RIght now it's a desktop
[11:01] <mamessner_> I want to use it for broadcatching with Miro, though, not recording live TV
[11:01] <mamessner_> I just want to have it download videos and view them with a nice interface that I can use a remote with
[11:01] <Rigolo> if you want to make it dedicted to mythtv and make it a combined front and backend machine then you can try mythbuntu
[11:02] <mamessner_> I saw that - might try it tomorrow.
[11:02] <mamessner_> Is it easy to set up?
[11:02] <Rigolo> I think it is ....
[11:02] <mamessner_> Are the plugins easy to do?  They're not documented well in the instructions
[11:03] <Rigolo> you can have mythbuntu with all the plugins installed already I think
[11:03] <mamessner_> Are there any other programs you like to watch videos?  I just need a GUI for xine or something
[11:03] <Rigolo> when you install mythbuntu then xine is also installed (with a GUI)
[11:04] <Rigolo> along with mplayer and vlc
[11:06]  * Rigolo has to go now ...
[11:06] <Rigolo> good luck ....
[11:06] <mamessner_> Thanks
[12:13] <mongr0l> hi folks
[12:18] <mongr0l> is there a known problem with mythfilldatabase not running automatically from 7.10?
[12:18] <mongr0l> works ok from a shell
[14:39] <MythbuntuGuest23> Need some help with 8.04 if possible
[14:40] <MythbuntuGuest23> im trying to setup a DVICO Dual Digital 4 based on these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DViCO_Dual_Digital_4
[14:41] <MythbuntuGuest23> But I am getting some errors when it comes to the 'make'
[14:41] <MythbuntuGuest23> htpc@htpc:~/v4l-dvb$ make
[14:43] <MythbuntuGuest23> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4895/
[15:07] <Nikas> MythbuntuGuest23: sudo make menuconfig
[15:07] <Nikas> go into sound and disable ACI Mixer
[15:07] <Nikas> exit and save kernel config.
[15:07] <Nikas> then make and after that make install
[15:10] <Nikas> MythbuntuGuest23: Ah, you need to get and unpack the source for... the kernel.. hm
[15:36] <MythbuntuGuest23> ok will have a go
[15:40] <rhpot1991> anyone see this today: http://www.woot.com/
[15:47] <Nikas> i want Woot in sweden ;)
[16:04] <shane__> hi all is anyone here using mythtv in romania?
[16:07] <sshirley> Can anyone tell me if the latest version of Mythbuntu is optimized for dual-core amd64 processors?
[16:07] <sshirley> Or do I need to compile it on my own?
[16:35] <tgm4883> sshirley, what do you mean by optimized?
[16:35] <tgm4883> for dual core that is
[16:35] <directhex|work> tgm4883, threading enabled on the compile
[16:36] <directhex|work> tgm4883, there's a config flag to do threaded decoding, iirc
[16:36] <tgm4883> ah
[16:36] <tgm4883> wouldn't that be a kernel option though?
[16:36] <tgm4883> or specific to mythtv?
[16:38] <sshirley> Sorry. Was in a meeting. Optimized meaning to be able to use both cores for different threads.
[16:38] <sshirley> I think that an application has to be aware of the multiple cores
[17:41] <beakster> hi
[17:42] <beakster> ive just set up mythbuntu, but I'm having problems getting the channel listings
[17:42] <beakster> XMLTV is getting stuck at retrieving listings
[17:46] <beakster> oh wait, its working now
[17:46] <beakster> it just took 25 minutes to retrieve the data :)
[18:09] <beakster> hi
[18:09] <beakster> just installed
[18:09] <beakster> when i reboot it seems to load about 5 copies of the front end
[18:09] <beakster> ?
[19:28] <beakster> hi
[19:29] <beakster> where does mythbuntu launch the mythfrontend from?
[19:29] <beakster> it seems to be loading it too many times when it starts up
[19:47] <hugolp> anyone has experience with surround on Ubuntu?
[20:05] <toorima> sure
[20:06] <hugolp> toorima:  hi, I read the alsa webpage and it seems like surround should be enable by default, but Ive downloaded some 5.1 wav and ogg files and they play as stereo only
[20:07] <toorima> what setup do you have, i use spdif out to my amp
[20:08] <toorima> and had to edit one config file to get it to work
[20:08] <hugolp> toorima:  no, Im using the analog out
[20:08] <hugolp> I just got some cheap creative speakers
[20:09] <toorima> i think it should work oob then but there might be some setting you must do to enable it
[20:10] <toorima> have u tried googling your soundcard
[20:12] <hugolp> no, its just the internal one
[20:12] <hugolp> I will try that
[20:34] <npurciful> err, crap
[20:35] <npurciful> i cant seem to get sound
[20:36] <npurciful> well i do with MPEG2 if i passthough but if i listen to mp3 or oggs i get no sound
[20:36] <npurciful> and this just started
[20:37] <toorima> npurciful: have u tried with a .asoundrc file?
[20:38] <npurciful> i havent had one before
[20:39] <toorima> k
[20:39] <toorima> i never got stereo sound without one
[20:40] <npurciful> hold on i was playing with it yesterday, let me touch it and see if that fixes it
[20:44] <npurciful> hum that didnt fix it
[20:45] <npurciful> spdif raw out works but nomal digital out doesnt (not in raw mode
[20:46] <Em0ry42> I switched from Ubuntu to Mythbuntu and now have crackly audio, I've tried OSS, ALSA and ESD none of these is making a difference.  Any ideas?
[20:48] <npurciful> i think i got it
[20:49] <npurciful> somehow alsa is no longer sending stereo to spdif
[21:01] <Em0ry42> I switched from Ubuntu to Mythbuntu and now have crackly audio, I've tried OSS, ALSA and ESD none of these is making a difference.  Any ideas?
[21:18] <npurciful> got it, i created a .asoundrc to send all sound though spdif
[21:26] <toorima> npurciful: and it works for ya now?
[21:26] <toorima> wierd that it worked without it before
[21:27] <toorima> weird
[21:28] <npurciful> yeah, but know there is a 1.5 sec delay
[21:28] <toorima> ouch
[21:28] <npurciful> just on start up though
[21:28] <toorima> what does your .asoundrc look like
[21:29] <toorima>  pcm.!default {
[21:29] <toorima>         type plug
[21:29] <toorima>         slave {
[21:29] <toorima>                 rate 48000
[21:29] <toorima>                 pcm "spdif"
[21:29] <toorima>         }
[21:30] <toorima> }
[21:30] <toorima> like that?
[21:31] <npurciful> yeah
[21:31] <npurciful> just like it
[21:31] <toorima> hmm mine works perfect
[21:31] <npurciful> i can see the equalizer move but now sound for a second
[21:32] <npurciful> let me reboot
[21:32] <npurciful> and i bee back
[21:32] <toorima> k
[21:38] <npurciful> alright i am back
[21:38] <toorima> k any diff now
[21:39] <npurciful> yeah it is still doing it, the 1sec thing, i know because at the beginning of Seether - Rememdy there is a feedback squel and you cant here it unless something is playing and you switch back to it
[21:40] <toorima> k so no sound for the 1st second but then its in sync or
[21:40] <npurciful> you it is insink
[21:41] <npurciful> it did this before and then i just stopped, now its back
[21:41] <npurciful> crazy thing
[21:41] <toorima> hehe
[21:52] <npurciful> and i only have 5.1 on 5.1 sources
[21:53] <npurciful> which isnt nessaryly bad
[22:05] <hugolp> ok, got surround working
[22:06] <hugolp> now, anyone knows how to make that the volume up and down aplies to all the channels and not only to front channels?
[22:07] <toorima> npurciful: what you mean you only got 5.1 on 5.1 sources? with stereo sound do you only get sound from 2 speakers or do you get stereo sound from all speakers, the later is what you should get
[22:08] <toorima> hugolp: sorry cant really help ya there, i only send all my sound to the amp then adjust sound on the amp
[22:08] <npurciful> i get 5.1 on 5.1 sources and 2.1 on stereo sources
[22:09] <hugolp> toorima:  ok
[22:09] <toorima> npurciful: so only sound from front speakers on stereo source?
[22:10] <npurciful> hugolp: i beleave that there is a seting under setup > general > audio for MASTER for volume
[22:10] <npurciful> yes toorima
[22:11] <toorima> npurciful: i guess it depends on how your amp is setup maybe
[22:11] <toorima> hugolp: yeah what npurciful said sounds right
[22:11] <hugolp> npurciful:  where is setup?
[22:12] <npurciful> it is a HTIB (Home Theater in a Box) and doesnt up mix
[22:12] <toorima> ah
[22:12] <npurciful> hugolp:  on mythfrontend
[22:12] <npurciful> at the bottom right
[22:13] <hugolp> npurciful:  ok, but would like to have it working for all gnome
[22:14] <npurciful> hugolp: i dont know then
[22:14] <npurciful> i use kubuntu
[22:14]  * Rigolo is going to sleep .. been a long day today ...
[22:14] <npurciful> somewhere along the  lines system systems > audio maybe?
[22:15] <Rigolo> dvb still broken .. probably need to set the channels by hand for the moment
[22:15] <npurciful> that sucks
[22:15] <Rigolo> it does ...
[22:16] <npurciful> i manage to break my sound so
[22:16] <Rigolo> 0.20.2 is also broken with dvb scanning ... but it sets the channel numbers correct, something that 0.21.something is not doing
[22:17] <Rigolo> and complete the bug report on the alpha 2 installer with geforce cards ... it complains about an encoding that is set to utf-8 when it can not or something
[22:18] <Rigolo> so .. bed time ... continue wrestling with it in the morning ... see if I can make a dvb import script based on scan and dvbsnoop output :-)
[22:18] <Rigolo> laters ...
[22:21] <hugolp> npurciful:  you were right, gnome has a gui to control wich channels the volume up and down controls
[22:21] <hugolp> sometimes I just think it will be dificult and dont try the simple way
[22:24] <npurciful> ehe
[22:36] <npurciful> toorima: just read where asla state my be messed up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388191
[22:38] <npurciful> so i guess i am downloading live cd