Oloughlin75how would i go about making files accessible across my network that is mostly XP?00:07
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:08
MrJigsawOloughlin75: in stall samba then go to remote places in 'System Menu' :-)00:08
MrJigsawIf you like GUI ;)00:09
Oloughlin75alright :)00:09
mrunagiinteresting..........my quick launch doesnt do the zoom effect00:10
Oloughlin75MrJigsaw: do i just add a network share?00:11
MrJigsawisent there a menu called 'samba shares' ?00:11
Oloughlin75theres an icon00:11
MrJigsawpress it :)00:11
Oloughlin75and its empty :)00:12
MrJigsawtry rebooting.. dno, it works here for me.00:12
MrJigsawWhere is it a set a standard device for extension ?00:13
jussi01MrJigsaw: right click a file of the type you want to configure, go to properties, click the spanner, then set the program you want at the top00:14
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs00:15
MrJigsawThanks, jussi01 :-)00:15
jussi01MrJigsaw: :)00:15
mrunagiThe source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD00:17
mrunagiwhat does that mean00:17
mhollisjrare there any known issues for booting kubuntu and having an ipod touch plugged in?00:22
mhollisjrmy boots seem to only work sometimes when that's the case00:22
icanhasadmindescribe "work"00:25
mhollisjrboot into the operating system00:25
icanhasadminwhere does it fail?00:27
mhollisjrmy keyboard initializes about the same time (again this doesn't always happen) so I assume right when USB is initialized00:28
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers00:28
Marbugo no vmware possible vor ? :s00:29
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs00:29
eduardohello, who can tell me what is the diferent between ubunt and kubuntu ?00:30
mrunagi_gnome and kde eduardo00:30
jussi01eduardo: ubuntu has the gnome desktop, kubuntu has kde00:30
eduardoso it's only visual?00:30
flipstarit goes a little bit deeper..00:31
flipstarbut in generally..yes00:31
eduardowhich is better for a old computer?00:31
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jussi01!xubuntu | eduardo00:32
ubotueduardo: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels00:32
flipstargnome and kde are both heavy00:32
mrunagi_anyone remember changing the alt+tab window order00:33
eduardothanks!! I will go to #xubunt00:33
mrunagi_meaning not cycling through windows but rather changing to the last window?00:33
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maroowhat is the recommended way to install the latest nvidia driver on gutsy?00:41
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »00:42
marooso envy is recommended if you want to use the latest driver or manual installation?! :)00:45
maroothis was no binary question :O00:47
Daisuke_Idoit most certainly was00:47
Daisuke_Idoyou don't do either00:48
marooso i do what to get the *latest* driver?00:48
Daisuke_Idowell, you CAN, but don't complain if something breaks00:48
Daisuke_Idodo you have an absolute OMGI'MGONNADIEIFIDON'THAVEIT need for the latest driver?00:49
marooit supposes to fix all the kde4 scrolling flaws00:49
Daisuke_Idoif you MUST do that, don't go with envy00:50
flipstarwhy dont you use restricted manager ?00:51
maroobecause the restricted manager offers very very old drivers as it seems00:52
maroowhich contain critical bugs for kde4 usage00:53
nosrednaekimmaroo» install the directly from the nvidia website00:54
maroook.. will do.. as there seem to be no other option.. will the  nvidia installer generate a deb?00:55
nosrednaekimmaroo» no... but I think there is a script to uninstall it00:56
morslokeverytime I go to add remove program files i get a message that says the package system is in use, and I try to resolve it and it doesn't work. any ideas what to do?00:56
maroohm.. :(00:56
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:56
morslokwow, must be a common one00:56
* maroo wonders why there is no deb with the latest drivers :(00:56
flipstarmaroo: the nvidia installer is prettey good..you just need libc6-dev and kernel headers ..00:57
maroobut it feels wrong to install stuff that is not registerd with dpkg..00:57
mhollisjrdoes ubuntu have a personal bin directory?00:58
mhollisjrnevermind just made one myself00:59
Oloughlin75!find libvisual01:00
ubotuFound: libvisual-0.4-0, libvisual-0.4-dev, libvisual-0.4-plugins01:00
morslokthanks that worked01:03
ublongatawhere are the files located that add options to KDM login? like different version of KDE, Gnome sessions01:06
dusharaHi this is the first time I'm using IRC...01:06
nosrednaekimhello dushara01:07
nosrednaekimublongata» /etc/X11/xsession01:07
ublongatai installed KDE4 and now my KDE3 logins launch KDE4 apps by default as if it's preceding other locations in the PATH01:07
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dusharaHi nosrefnaekim. How exactly does one go about getting help for specific questions?01:08
jussi01!ask | dushara01:08
ubotudushara: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)01:08
tekteendushara: that its self was a question :-)01:09
dusharaHas anybody got IIIMF working in kubuntu?01:10
Daisuke_IdoIIIMF is?01:11
* tekteen does not know either01:11
tekteenI googled it01:12
dusharaiiimf : input method framework for internationalisation.01:12
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FuriousMojoHi all, I just got a GeForce 7200 GS and I'm getting "Screens not found" after installing the Nvidia driver from the website01:23
FuriousMojo"failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"01:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:25
mrunagiwhy cant libdvdcss2 be clear on how to install01:26
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:27
tekteenmrunagi: I suggest medibuntu01:28
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org01:29
tekteen!medibuntu > mrunagi01:29
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.01:29
ubotumrunagi: please see above01:29
FuriousMojoArgh... I just tried installing Nvida driver through restricted driver manager and now it does not boot past running local boot scripts01:31
mrunagitekteen: what did i do wrong01:31
tekteenwhat do you mean?01:31
mrunagifor you to use that trigger01:31
tekteenif the information is for you, you should msg the bot01:32
mrunagianyone know why my quick launcher doesnt do the zoom effect on a fresh install?01:33
flipstargraphic issue maybe ?01:34
FuriousMojoCan someone help me install the nvidia driver (using restircted driver manager did not work - I'm on gutsy)01:35
mrunagiit does it for the desktop icon01:35
flipstarwith quick launcher you mean the kicker ?01:36
mrunagii guess01:36
mhollisjrdoes anyone know of any xfire compatible instant messenger for linux01:37
osirisok, any idea why my filesystem just went read only on me ?01:37
mrunagiit use to zoom the icon and fade01:37
osirissingle / partition01:37
flipstarosiris: an filesystem error probably01:37
flipstarrun fsck is recommend01:37
osirisif i reboot the box, it will be fine for a few hours, then randomly go read only again01:38
mrunagianyone good with fstab entries?>01:38
Rtfum-aFadi adm Alethes01:38
osirisdo i have to do that from a local login ? and if so, what is the syntax for the command i want to run01:38
tekteenmrunagi: what is the problem?01:38
flipstarosiris: you may watch /var/log/messages ..maybe its your hardware ..?01:38
osirisim not doubting the had drive may be going01:39
osirisbut i would like to know how to force a filesystem check on next reboot01:39
mrunagitekteen: you know on the quick launch when you click an icon it zooms and fades?01:39
tekteenmrunagi: nope. I thought you asked about fstab.01:40
mrunagioooh i did lol01:40
mrunagii didnt save my fsstab so i dont have the entry needed to automatically mount my ntfs drives01:40
tekteenmrunagi: is it a "vista partitions"01:41
mrunagiits ntfs01:42
tekteenvista or xp?01:42
tekteenthey are different01:42
mrunagiits neither01:42
mrunagijust ntfs01:42
Daisuke_Idowhat version of windows was it created with?01:42
mrunagii dont really remember01:42
mrunagiim going to assume xp01:43
pawanany good kde distro of ubuntu01:44
flipstarthere is only one01:44
mrunagiwhat the heck is kde distro of ubuntu other than kubuntu01:44
osirisflipstar, so no idea on how to force the filesystem check ?01:44
LukeLCkubuntu comes with only KDE, kubuntu is THE kde distro of ubuntu :P01:45
flipstarno at least not automaticly..01:45
tekteenmrunagi: add something like this to /etc/fstab ------------> /dev/something  /media/ntfs-partition  ntfs  defaults  0 001:45
flipstarosiris: i would login to rescue mode and run fsck manually ..01:45
tekteenmrunagi: then type sudo mount -a in a konsole01:46
osirismrunagi, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/02/msg01030.html01:46
mhollisjrwhat package is glib in? I'm trying to compile something and it's complaining about glib not being there01:47
flipstar libglib1.2-dev maybe01:48
mhollisjrsubstitued for 2.0 and yeah that wasn't there I'm trying it now01:49
mhollisjryep that did it thank you01:49
mrunagiits not mounting =(01:50
LukeLCimo ubuntu should come with kde by default:P and there should be a gubuntu!01:50
flipstari agree01:50
regeyawell...that's your opinion :-> and you're not alone, but there are a lot of people who like gnome.  remember there are also people who actually like windows01:51
mrunagii have to manually mount it =(01:51
flipstarLukeLC: lets make a petition or somethin ^^01:51
* regeya sees kubuntu as 'the real ubuntu'01:51
tekteenmrunagi: why?01:51
marooregeya: for those people there will be gubuntu :)01:51
mrunagibecause it doesnt mount when i plug it in01:51
* tekteen agrees01:51
tekteenmrunagi: oh01:51
mrunagihow do i get the drives uid01:52
tekteenmrunagi: kde has a manager01:52
flipstarmrunagi: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al01:52
mrunagisays not a directory01:53
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tekteenmrunagi: the command is blkuid01:54
tekteenwhat does that mean01:55
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:55
kieferHey is anyone familiar with .rmvb files?01:56
mrunagistill doesnt mount01:58
mrunagiUUID=5AD8009AD8007693 /media/External ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 101:58
flipstarwhats the message ?01:58
mrunagithere is no message, i can do it manually01:59
mrunagiit just doesnt mount01:59
flipstaroh right the gui's are not very communicative02:00
mrunagii do however get  Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.02:01
mrunagibut its unrelated02:01
mrunagimy pcm is always turned down by default too02:01
mrunagiso are my mics02:02
mrunagii killed the channel =/02:04
mrunagii didnt mean to02:05
flipstardamn wine is compiling since 30minutes or so :/02:05
will00ey i have an issue with my kubuntu install, after i restart i get a grub error 1502:05
kieferWine took like 20 Mins to compile for me flip.02:05
* kiefer will brb.02:05
flipstaraight my machine is kind of antique02:06
flipstarwill00: you installed grub by yourself ?02:06
will00no i used the installer off the livecd02:06
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mrunagimy help has abandoned me =)02:09
mrunagii never could easily figure out this ntfs-3g stuff02:10
flipstarwill00: and after the installation you didnt changed any? like hard drive configuration or something..02:11
flipstarmrunagi: without an error message i dont know where to start ..02:11
mrunagihow do i find an error message02:11
flipstaryou can try to mount it manually02:12
mrunagii have and can02:12
flipstar..so whats the problem ..?02:12
mrunagii want it to automatically mount02:13
flipstarjust add it to fstab then ..02:13
mrunagii did02:13
mrunagiit doesnt mount02:13
flipstarwhat does it say ?02:13
flipstarin konsole just typ mount -a02:13
flipstaras root, using sudo02:13
mrunagifuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/External: Input/output error02:14
flipstaryou checked the device and mountpoint ?02:14
flipstarare you sure you specified the hard drive correct ? and the mount point02:15
sd32is it worth going to kde 3.5.9?02:16
mrunagii did it by uid02:16
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flipstardoes it work with ntfs instead of ntfs-3g in fstab ?02:17
mrunagiwe are getting closer02:19
mrunaginow i get02:19
will00srry bout the delay02:19
will00yea i set everything right02:19
mrunagihal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100002:19
will00iv gotten it to work before, but i did a rebuild to add some thermal paste and it didnt work right after that, same jumpers, same everything02:20
Oloughlin75mrunagi: sudo whatever your trying to do02:21
flipstarmounting with fstab02:21
Oloughlin75sudo mount /blah/ /to/blah or w/e02:21
mrunagii got it02:21
mrunagiuncheck mount as user02:21
flipstarand ntfs02:21
mrunagiim a happier camper02:21
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mrunaginow if i can just get that zoom efect on the quicklauncher ill be happier still02:21
Oloughlin75mrunagi: kde4?02:22
mrunagier well02:22
mrunagiit is installed but not running02:22
Oloughlin75how can you add effects to it?02:22
mrunagididnt say you could02:23
mrunagibut before i reinstalled when i clicked on icons on the quick launcher it would zoom and fade........just like the show desktop icon02:23
mrunagiand how it does it in dolphin02:23
eduardo_hi...a thing happend, i install kubuntu in my acer notebook, but when open konsole and write "sudo apt-get install ' example firefox'" the system said - the pakage isnt be02:24
eduardo_what can i do02:24
mrunagienable universe and multivers02:24
Daisuke_Idoi have returned to kde02:25
Oloughlin75Daisuke_Ido: you left it?02:25
Daisuke_IdoOloughlin75: i haven't used kde in months02:25
mrunagireturned from where02:25
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eduardo_plz heelp02:25
DarkShinigamiHow do I play DVDs? I have a DVD in the drive and it will tell me that it cannot be read.02:25
Oloughlin75Daisuke_Ido: what were you useing?02:26
Oloughlin75!dvd | DarkShinigami02:26
ubotuDarkShinigami: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:26
MrUnagi!dvd | DarkShinigami02:26
Oloughlin75i win =)02:26
MrUnagiew why Daisuke_Ido02:26
Oloughlin75i liked fluxbox a lot but im too lazy to set it all up02:26
Daisuke_IdoMrUnagi: because desktop environment is a personal choice and i happen to like gnome.  is that good enough?02:26
MrUnagium ok calm down killer02:27
Oloughlin75!find fluxbox02:27
ubotuFound: fluxbox02:27
Daisuke_Idonah, i would have been mean :)02:27
MrUnagignome isnt functional or even nice looking02:27
Oloughlin75gnome is very functional02:28
MrUnaginot compared to kde02:28
MrUnagione of my major gripes with it is you couldnt sort by anything but name02:28
MrUnagion the desktop that is02:28
flipstarMrUnagi: you'll adapt it if you run it for a longer time02:28
Oloughlin75who uses icons on their desktop?!02:28
MrUnagiits all i ran02:28
flipstari do02:29
MrUnagii started on ubuntu, resisted kde for a LONG time02:29
MrUnagibecause the default config is ugly =)02:29
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: i agree!02:29
Oloughlin75it is in every kde distro... all are fat gray bars02:29
MrUnagibut i move the bar to the top and make it about 30 pixels and im good02:29
MrUnagiit was the zoom icon effect thing that i liked02:29
MrUnagibut i seemed to have lost that02:29
MrUnagiat least on the quick launcher and that makes me sad02:30
Daisuke_Idoso...  you made it more gnomelike02:30
sd32i dont like how you cant resize ythe taskbar in kde 402:30
MrUnagium i guess02:30
Alethesheh, my kde is very gnome-like02:30
Oloughlin75sd32: you can in its config file02:30
MrUnagiyou could also say its more osxish02:30
Daisuke_IdoMrUnagi: not exactly, since kde has a desktop menu bar that mimics OSX :)02:31
Oloughlin75sd32: i forget exactly what it is buts its something like ~/.plasma/ or /.kde02:31
Daisuke_Idowhich i played with02:31
Daisuke_Idofor five minutes02:31
MrUnagiso does gnome02:31
sd32Oloughlin75: how do you get to that? right clicking dosent work02:31
MrUnagiwe arent talking about that dock02:31
Daisuke_Idoand then i opened firefox and realized it wasn't even a remotely smart menubar02:31
Oloughlin75sd32: its a text file02:31
sd32Oloughlin75: ohh02:32
DarkShinigamiOloughlin75: Thanks. That did it. I had to run the install-css.sh file02:32
sd32cause 3.5.* is just a right click.. easy02:32
Oloughlin75sd32: kde4 isnt complete yet02:33
Oloughlin75sd32: GUI config will come in time, and the taskbar really isnt necessary02:33
MrUnagii dont get it man02:33
MrUnagithe zoom thingy doesnt do it on the live cd either02:33
sd32Oloughlin75: they shouldnt have released it in my opinion..till it was done02:34
MrUnagimaybe its a kubuntu-desktop thing02:34
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: did you enable mouseover effects?02:34
MrUnagiwhere do u do that02:34
Oloughlin75sd32: its functional enough, and its stable enough02:34
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: configure panel -> appearence02:34
MrUnagiit says its enabled02:35
sd32Oloughlin75: we agree to dissagree :-)02:35
Oloughlin75sd32: its more meant to mess around in, see whats coming02:35
sd32Oloughlin75: then it should still be in beta02:35
Oloughlin75it isnt buggy02:36
MrUnagidoes anyone know what im talking about when i say the zoom fade thingy with the quicklauncher02:36
sd32its not buggy, just not complete02:36
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: ive only seen something like that in KDE4... compiz may have something like it though02:36
Oloughlin75sd32: its complete enough to be used02:37
MrUnagiit wasnt compiz02:37
sd32lol. ok ok02:37
MrUnagiit wasnt anything like that it would do it even when i had compositing turned off02:37
Oloughlin75sd32: you just want it to be easier ;)02:37
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: i have no idea02:37
MrUnagiOloughlin75: ok you know when you click on an icon in dolphin how it zooms and fades as it loads?02:38
sd32Oloughlin75: yeah.. ya got me..lol dont we all..;-)02:38
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: umm, no, lol02:38
MrUnagidoes it only do it for me?02:38
Oloughlin75mine brightens when i have mouse over, but it doesnt zoom when i click02:39
MrUnagiwhat does it do02:39
sd32Oloughlin75: why dont you want it to be easier?02:39
Oloughlin75nothing, goes to whatever i clicked on02:39
Oloughlin75sd32: im not using it, am i? :)02:39
MrUnagii swear to god tihs computer randomly removes programs02:40
sd32Oloughlin75: didn't know :-/02:40
MrUnagido icons not zoom for anyone when you click them>02:40
Oloughlin75sd32: taskbar really isnt needed if they added a keep widgets on top of other windows02:40
flipstarMrUnagi: of corse they do02:40
RoeyGnash folks says their software shows Youtube fine; will this work into Hardy Heron?"02:41
Oloughlin75sd32: the widgets are nice because you can arrange your desktop however you want02:41
MrUnagiflipstar: does that not happen for you when you click them on your quicklauncher?02:41
pushaxcan someone tell me the default place the Maildir is?02:41
sd32Oloughlin75: plus that scroling k menu  is horrible02:41
flipstarMrUnagi: no02:41
Oloughlin75Roey: last time i use gnash it was hit or miss if its show video02:41
Roeywhen was that?  THe Gnash folks are sort of adamant that it works02:41
Oloughlin75it should work in hardy though02:41
Oloughlin75as well as it does in gusty :)02:42
MrUnagiwhat was that command to see uid again?02:42
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)02:42
Oloughlin75sd32: i just wish it didnt sae were you last opened it -- i dont often open the same thing many times02:42
Oloughlin75sd32: its annoying to go back several levels to get to a different application type02:43
flipstar..talking about kde4..?02:43
Oloughlin75flipstar: yep02:43
RoeyOloughlin75:  <bjacques> it's planned to be released next week02:43
RoeyOloughlin75:  (this is a #gnash dev)02:44
Oloughlin75Roey: what?02:44
Roeysays that they're releasing their youtube-ready version next week02:44
sd32Oloughlin75: im talking about the click scrolling aspect  of it and having to click to go backwards02:44
Oloughlin75Roey: lol -- hit or miss like i said ;)02:44
Roeyhere'sa weird problem02:44
kennethhello all02:45
Oloughlin75sd32: you want it to scroll down when the mouse is near the bottom?02:45
Roeydoes this axismapping look OK to you:  http://rafb.net/p/P9Xx5J93.html02:45
kennethcan someone tell me where to find emc channel ?02:45
RoeyOloughlin75:  My scrollwheel scrolls vertically instead of horizontally and I can't seem to change it02:45
Oloughlin75Roey: i cant exactly help you, sorry02:46
Oloughlin75<-- is still new02:46
Roeyahh :)02:46
sd32Oloughlin75: no, when you have to click several  times to get to a program then when you want to get back to the main k menu you have to click on the edge of the panel to go back to the main panel02:47
MrUnagiwhen is hddvd going to die =(02:47
Oloughlin75sd32: thats what i was complaining about lol02:47
RoeyI thought blu-ray is bad because it's yet-another-sony de-facto standard02:48
sd32then were on the same page..lol02:48
flipstarblueray is technically better02:48
Dr_willisI consider blue ray bad. because its the movie companies wanting me to yet rebuy AGAIn all my movies.. :)02:48
Oloughlin75flipstar: more DRM and more expensive, also02:48
Roeybut so was betamax02:48
Roeydrm is why I stayed away from DVD drives too02:48
MrUnagiDr_willis: and hddvd is good because....02:48
Roeyand I stilldon't have one02:48
MrUnagiRoey: i dont consider the jump from vhs to dvd to be the same as dvd to bluray02:49
Roeyso the only way to really get HD content off of these bluray players is to connect them to an HDCP-capable TV?02:49
RoeyMrUnagi:  due to the drm, yes?02:49
Dr_willisMrUnagi,  i dident say it was good.02:50
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: it only matters to me on a huge huge tv... dvds look fine on a 50 inch to me02:50
Dr_willisI consider the whole blueray/hd stuff just the companies wanting more $$$ from the public.02:50
Roeyhey Dr_willis  :)02:50
MrUnagiOloughlin75: you and my mom would get along02:50
MrUnagiDr_willis: are you saying you dont see a big difference?02:50
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: :/02:50
Dr_willisI dont plan on buying any for a very long time02:50
Dr_willisMrUnagi,  I dont. :) but then again im not a big movie addict.02:50
MrUnagi<---------computer animator02:50
MrUnagii guess it comes with the tradew02:50
flipstarDr_willis: me too but its step forwards :)02:51
Dr_willisMrUnagi,  and i find it hard to justify HD for my anime. :)02:51
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: enjoy the movie, and stop searching for errors :)02:51
MrUnagi Dr_willis anime would look awesome in HD02:51
flipstarabout 10x more data to save on blueray instead of dvd02:51
MrUnagiOloughlin75: yo uhave NO idea =)02:51
Dr_willisMrUnagi,  IF it was actually using the better res. :)  My Bugs Bunny Cartoons are not.02:51
Dr_willisThen again. i donthave a HD/Big Tv any more.02:51
Roeywhat does it matter when in a couple of years 32gb SD cards will be standard :P02:51
MrUnagiRoey: i cant wait02:52
Daisuke_Ido-years +months02:52
RoeyMrUnagi:  you mean for those cheap SD cards that everyone seems to have missed the point about?02:52
RoeyMrUnagi:  I wonder why the Industry hasn't shifted to selling software on SD cards.02:52
Dr_willisMost of my portable gizmos cant handle the 4gb sd cards. :(02:52
flipstarssd hard drives will come first i guess02:52
Oloughlin75Roey: because its way to easy to redistribute02:53
Daisuke_IdoOloughlin75: and a CD isn't?02:53
Dragnslcrflipstar- SSD hard drives are already available02:53
RoeyOloughlin75:  you can incorporate drm very easily into a chip onboard the sd card...02:53
MrUnagiDragnslcr: they just now started02:53
DarkShinigamiMrUnagi: I've been wanting to do some computer animation for some time. What are you using in Kubuntu to do so?02:53
Daisuke_IdoRoey: and that's also why it's a bad idea02:53
RoeyMrUnagi:  what started02:53
Daisuke_IdoMrUnagi: yeah, over a year ago02:53
RoeyDaisuke_Ido:  from whose point of view, users or distributors02:53
flipstaryes Dragonatha but not for the masses..02:53
Daisuke_IdoRoey: users02:54
MrUnagiDarkShinigami: maya is my tool of trade02:54
RoeyDaisuke_Ido:  you think bluray is any better?02:54
MrUnagitool of preference02:54
RoeyDaisuke_Ido:  at least its' not yet-another-new-technology02:54
Roeyrequiring big expensive lasers02:54
Roeyand a $500 reader.02:54
Daisuke_IdoRoey: i don't get into the format war discussions.  dvd works for me, and i couldn't possibly care less02:54
Dr_willisI would be overjoyed if the DVD-Dual Layer disks got afforable.02:54
MrUnagiyou people that arent impressed by high def are just like when they came out with color tv02:54
Dr_willisand afforeable is NOT 10x the cost of a normal blank dvd. :)02:55
Dr_willisactually they are down to like 5x now i think.02:55
flipstaryou cant even compare HD to dvd ..the quality is just amazing!02:55
Daisuke_IdoMrUnagi: no, we're reasonable and don't blow a load over every new gadget.  i have a 37" hdtv that dvds look GREAT on, i see no reason to repurchase my entire library of dvds (500+) on another format02:55
MrUnagithank u flipstar02:55
Daisuke_Idothe quality is in your head02:56
MrUnagiyoure nuts02:56
Daisuke_Idono, i'm sane, YOU'RE nuts.02:56
MrUnagiDaisuke_Ido: are you on a laptop?02:56
MrUnagilcd monitor?02:56
DarkShinigamiMrUnagi: Is Maya compatible with Kubuntu? Is it in the repos?02:56
MrUnagiwhats the resolution02:56
flipstarDaisuke_Ido: on a 15"tft yes..maybe02:56
MrUnagiDarkShinigami: its 6 grand and not free02:56
flipstarbut when it comes to a bigger screen you see the difference02:56
MrUnagiDaisuke_Ido: do you run your resolution at 800 x 60002:56
Daisuke_IdoMrUnagi: upscaling.02:56
MrUnagiwhy not........theres no difference in the quality02:57
MrUnagirun it at 800 x 600, save the life of the monitor02:57
Daisuke_Idooh, but there is, and what you're suggesting is substantially different02:57
MrUnagiit is no different02:57
* DarkShinigami goes off to rob a bank for 6 grand... plus tax...02:57
MrUnagidvd-roms have upscaled for years02:57
MrUnagithere are obvious artifacts02:57
Daisuke_Idorunning at a non-native resolution != scaling to the proper resolution02:57
Daisuke_Idoi can't see them02:57
Daisuke_Idoagain, this is a CHOICE, don't push yours on me, i don't care.02:58
Oloughlin75Daisuke_Ido: you not LOOKING for them02:58
MrUnagiDaisuke_ido.................running a dvd full screen on anything above 640 x 480 IS the same thing02:58
MrUnagias non-native02:58
Daisuke_IdoOloughlin75: oh, of course!  i actually want to watch my movies rather than pick apart every little detail that may or may not be all in my head!02:58
MrUnagiassume that im looking for them02:58
Daisuke_Idoi assume you have too much time on your hands02:59
Daisuke_Ido /EOD02:59
MrUnagidoesnt change the fact that dvd players can process all they want to, it doesnt match HD02:59
DarkShinigamiMrUnagi: Is Maya compatible with Kubuntu?03:00
* MrUnagi wonders how many people that 'dont see the difference' download the higher resolution video03:00
Daisuke_Idoso.  now that the argument is over, anyone have any problems actually related to the channel?03:00
MrUnagiDarkShinigami: technically03:00
flipstarDaisuke_Ido: its a whole different level of pleasure to be able to see this details03:00
MrUnagido NOT run 3d software with wine03:00
MrUnagisearch ubuntuforums.org03:00
MrUnagihowto install maya03:01
Daisuke_Idoi'm sorry, i don't see how it's that great.  now, discussion OVER.03:01
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: have you used blender?03:01
MrUnagiits an involved process, linux native maya is in rpm03:01
Daisuke_Idoif you want to keep talking about it, go to #kubuntu-offtopic03:01
MrUnagiOloughlin75: cant stand it03:01
MrUnagiDaisuke_Ido: must have the last word03:01
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: its bad?03:01
MrUnagii wouldnt say that, but i cant stand the camera03:01
MrUnagii dunno if it can be changed or not, but at my present lifestyle i dont have time to learn it03:01
MrUnagithe camera stays in orthographic no matter how you move it03:02
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: im tempted to try it out.. the only modeling iv done has been in autocad03:03
MrUnagithats cool03:03
MrUnagiim not really a modeller03:03
MrUnagimore of an animator/compositor/effects03:03
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: just push around the models?03:03
MrUnagiyeeeea exactly what i do =)03:03
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whiner - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:04
Oloughlin75Daisuke_Ido: the channels been OT for more than an hour03:04
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:04
nosrednaekimdoesn'tmean they SHOULD be03:04
Daisuke_IdoOloughlin75: it shouldn't be, so take it to -offtopic03:04
Oloughlin75We all should go :)03:04
flipstarokay i will start03:04
DarkShinigamiMrUnagi: What do you suggest for frame-by-frame animation? I have many of my old drawings that I want to turn into animation. I don't have the equipment that I had back in school.03:05
MrUnagimight run ok in wine03:06
DarkShinigamiMrUnagi: I have scanned my multiple images and am ready to put them into frame animation.03:06
thechrisamited gifs?  or mjpeg?03:06
thechris(or mpeg without P/B frames)03:07
DarkShinigamithechris: gif, avi... final format doesn't really matter much to me.03:07
* Daisuke_Ido looks03:07
Daisuke_Idothis still isn't the offtopic channel...03:07
DarkShinigamiI want to know of an app which runs in Kubuntu that can help with creating the animation for the images I have.03:08
DarkShinigamiThe images are jpg and I want to convert to animation.03:08
nosrednaekimDarkShinigami» Gimp03:08
nosrednaekimturn them into a GIF03:08
DarkShinigaminosrednaekim: Gimp does animation?03:08
nosrednaekimI think so.03:09
thechrisoh, why is it that when i tab complete /med[tab], i get /media/cdrom0, even though I have a /media/box dir03:09
nosrednaekimthechris» it doesn'tjust end at media?03:09
thechrisi have to backspace and type in the b[tab]03:09
stdinthechris: because you typed "mount" first03:09
thechrisoh, so its taking that from fstab?03:10
thechrisok, that makes sense.03:10
thechrisits kubuntu default03:10
stdinnosrednaekim: bash_completion03:10
nosrednaekimwow... how do you turn that on?03:10
stdinit should be by default03:10
stdinas long as you have bash-completion installed03:11
stdinor just add "if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then . /etc/bash_completion; fi" to your ~/.bashrc03:12
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MrUnagijust wait........daisy duke will yell at you03:21
regeyadaisy...oh, heh.03:22
regeyaDaisuke I assume03:22
stdinno, it's me who will "tell you off"03:22
regeyahow bout that KDE4!!!03:22
* regeya saves himself...03:23
MrUnagiits incompelte!03:23
MrUnagiincomplete even03:23
regeyayes, we seem to be killing the thread of conversation...03:23
regeyasuch as it is03:23
Oloughlin75regeya: KDE4 is nice :)03:23
MrUnagii think that when i run kde4 and i have an app crash it shatters to pieces its going to scare the crap out of me03:23
regeyathe second something relevant comes up, rest assured I will shut up (unless I have something insightful to interject)03:23
Oloughlin75MrUnagi: explosions!03:24
regeyammm...desktops with pyro03:24
stdinhow about this, KDE4 support in #kubuntu-kde4, Kubuntu support in here, anything else in #kubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else that's not here03:24
nosrednaekimhey biossdid you get your sound fixed?03:24
biossno sound on internal speakears on a hp dv6000 but the sound is coming out on headphone03:25
MrUnagii have a dv6000t03:25
MrUnagianyone know why pcm is off by default?03:25
MrUnagihow do i change that03:25
Oloughlin75whats pcm?03:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:25
Oloughlin75what card?03:26
regeyaOloughlin75: roughly, sound, unless you're interested to know that that's Pulse Code Modulation03:26
sd32are there any kde 4 downgrade coupons..lol03:26
biossi tried the web from <teekteen> but didnt work03:26
Oloughlin75regeya: what card are you trying to set up?03:26
Oloughlin75regeya: in hd audio?03:26
MrUnagi00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)03:26
biosshd intel03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hdaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:27
regeyaOloughlin75: I'm not, but I thought I'd interject...cripes, I just can't make anyone happy. :<03:27
Oloughlin75uhh whats the tag03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:27
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto03:27
stdin!msgthebot > Oloughlin75  /msg the bot when you don't know03:27
Oloughlin75didnt know you -could- message the bot03:28
MrUnaginow you know03:28
MrUnagiwhat exactly is pcm03:28
nosrednaekimMrUnagi»itd kinda like a "master" channel usually03:28
regeyaand if you want the bot to tell someone in particular, you do it like this:  !intelhda | Oloughlin7503:28
Oloughlin75i know regeya :)03:29
MrUnagiany idea why it is turned down by defualt for me nosrednaekim03:29
regeyaoh sorry03:29
biossalready tried all of the page03:29
* regeya apparently continues the trend of alienating everyone in the channel03:29
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biossany good tutorials for ruby03:31
regeyacareful--that's not kde-specific03:32
MrUnagiis that off topic?03:33
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:33
MrUnagibetter trigger it just in case03:33
stdinruby? yes it is offtopic03:33
regeyabut bioss, yes, take a look at ruby-lang.org.  and avoid getting the pragmatic programmers book.03:33
Oloughlin75the learn how to program poorly books, regeya?03:34
regeyastdin: if someone were to ask how to set up rails by installing the packages from the repos, would that be on-topic or is this channel very specifically only about kde packages from the default install or just kde...is there a set of official guidelines?  see, I would think that IntelHDA would be offtopic since that's a kernel issue, and could be resolved in #ubuntu, but I could be totally wrong.03:35
regeyaOloughlin75: indeed.  btw, there are qt and kde bindings for ruby, and I'm told they're quite fun to work with.03:36
Dragnslcrregeya- sound issues could also be settings in KMix03:36
oneeyedelf1anyone here use 64bit kubuntu with a 8600gt, I can't get the accelerated drivers to work03:36
stdinregeya: read the topic, Kubuntu support includes installing packages in Kubuntu, but not learning a scripting language03:36
regeyastdin: ah, but scripting language education could be a setup issue as well...granted, ruby's a stretch, but...you're right, of course. :-)03:37
* regeya goes off to read the faq and will now stfu03:37
stdinalso, do not use acronyms like stfu, at all03:37
stdin!guidelines | you should read this03:38
ubotuyou should read this: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:38
* regeya raises his right hand and solemnly swears to not diss himself again in this channel...y'know, screw this, this is getting way too close to #debian, though the lack of kickban is nice...good NIGHT.03:39
regeyaknowing full well I am a volunteer, I bid you a good day, night, or whateer it is in your area.  cheers.03:39
Oloughlin75have a nice night regeya03:39
rossdoes anyone know of a panel that spans two monitors in kde4?03:40
* stdin points ross to #kubuntu-kde4 and #kde for KDE4 questions03:41
rossstdin: thank you03:41
biosshow do i verified that my modem is enable?03:41
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up03:42
gangadjinnanybody like to help me abit with a diskproblem?? Seem to be unable to mount my disks... and it annoys me...03:45
Oloughlin75gangadjinn: whats the error?03:46
Oloughlin75gangadjinn: right click the drive, and uncheck mount as user03:47
gangadjinnMount is denied because NTFS seem to be in use...03:48
Oloughlin75:/ nvm03:48
Oloughlin75does amarok support album art for ipods?03:52
gangadjinnwhere can I get eyecandy for kde4??03:53
Oloughlin75gangadjinn: under system settings -> appearence?03:55
sd32gangadjinn: www.kde-look.org03:57
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gangadjinnwas thinking if there where any other sites...04:00
Oloughlin75gangadjinn: you mean artwork?04:00
Oloughlin75www.art4linux.org is alright04:00
Oloughlin75but if you want backgrounds and such, www.deviantart.com is by far the best04:00
Oloughlin75doesnt have themes and stuff though04:01
gangadjinnjust looking for something to make my screen less ehm... blue... and maybe some widgets........ testing the KDE404:01
Oloughlin75gangadjinn: it comes with some pretty good background IMO04:01
biosshow do i turn on my modem it seems that if i dont turn on the modem the integrated speakears of the dv600 are working i dont know if it is install since i just installed kubuntu04:02
gangadjinnyupp... not bad... but just looking whats there already,,, just to have a peek really:D04:02
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up04:03
DragnslcrSound and modem not working at the same time makes me think of IRQ conflicts04:04
DragnslcrBut I don't think those have actually existed for about 10 years04:04
biossno that i have broadband but if i dont turn on the modem sound dosnt come out of the integrated speakears of the laptop04:05
biossthats whats there telling me04:05
Oloughlin75bioss: what sound card?04:05
biosshda intel and it also says conexant on the audio tab04:06
biossi have sound on the headphones04:06
DragnslcrIf the headphones work but the speakers don't, I'd guess that you have a channel muted in KMix or alsamixer04:07
biossalready check everithing is ok there04:07
=== root_______ is now known as julio_Vzla
julio_Vzlahola disculpen04:09
biosshola julio04:09
julio_Vzlacual es el link para entrar al servidor en español04:09
Oloughlin75!intelhdaudio | bioss04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intelhdaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:09
gangadjinnand quick queation... is there anyy frontend for mounting images these days... Or do we have to stay to writing??04:10
julio_Vzlabioss necesito la ayuda de alguien q maneje muy bn esta plataforma04:10
biossno se mucho pero dime04:12
julio_Vzladescargue el limewire para esta plataforma04:13
julio_Vzlapero lo tengo en un archivo zip04:13
julio_Vzlay a lo q lo abro solo me salen unas carpetas04:13
julio_Vzlay no lo ejecuta04:13
julio_Vzlani me aparecen un icono para utilizarlo04:13
biossbusca el adep package manager i busca zip y ya o usa ark04:14
biosscual esta en utilities04:14
julio_Vzlapero lo abro con eso y solo me abre las carpetas pero no lo ejecuta04:16
hydrogen!es | julio_Vzla04:17
ubotujulio_Vzla: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.04:17
julio_Vzlalo q sucede es q nunca habia trabajado con este sistema operativo04:17
neulhi yall04:18
biossque quieres ejecutar ? si es exe no podras exepto en wine04:19
mjponceno hay mucha gente que participe en kubuntu-es04:19
mjponcepor eso es que entran a este foro ubotu04:20
Oloughlin75mjponce: nadie habla español aquí, por favor, vaya al soportivo del #kubuntu-es04:20
mjponcei know about that rule.04:20
neulmay I ask, what is the media player I can use for wmv files04:21
neulit's called "kvc" or something like that04:23
biossthere kaffaine works fine and mplayer04:23
sd32neul: vlc is good  to04:23
mjponcemi name is "nadie" Oloughlin04:23
mjponcemy name is "nadie" Oloughlin04:24
neulthanx sd3204:24
Oloughlin75neul: youll need w32codecs from !medibuntu to play wma in any player04:24
sd32neul: yw04:24
biosstheres the ticket!! codecs04:25
biosssearch for automatix2 is really cool04:25
neulsd32 if u r a girl, you get a kiss, thanx04:25
sd32neul: male...thanks anyway04:26
Oloughlin75NO AUTOMATIX04:27
Oloughlin75!automatix | bioss04:27
ubotubioss: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »04:27
mjponceXD neul04:28
mjponcesome girls use neutral nicks04:29
mjponcefor no show gender04:30
neulthat's a wise decision04:30
biossthanx read the article04:30
biossout bye to all !! see tomorrow04:32
neuli was just asking advice mj04:32
mjponcebye bioss04:34
mjponceyes ?04:35
kickzHi all04:36
kickzwhat i need to play divx files in Kubungtu04:37
sd32lol kubungtu04:37
kickzLights off here, sorry.04:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:38
neulwhee! I got it mj04:39
neulI almost came :)04:41
mjponcekickz, open your eyes =)04:45
baudthiefis there an app for KDE that can display CPU temp, on a graph preferrably?04:53
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto04:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about karumba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:56
sd32Error: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto: SyntaxError: Parse error at line 204:56
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org04:57
prince_jammys!info conky  | baudthief04:57
ubotubaudthief: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB04:57
baudthiefprince_jammys: doesnt have CPU temp anywhere ;\05:00
prince_jammysbaudthief: i thought it did05:00
prince_jammysbaudthief: from a screenshot i saw.  i don't have it installed05:00
baudthiefinstalled it, no CPU temp for some reason ;\05:06
baudthiefcome to think of it, prett much all apps I've tried will show everything but cpu temp!05:06
prince_jammysbaudthief: i saw this http://conky.sourceforge.net/05:06
mjponcebye o/05:07
baudthiefhmm maybe I need to restart or something05:07
baudthief(after installing the lm-sensors package)05:08
baudthiefunusual... but woth a shot05:08
intelikeybaudthief    heh.05:08
intelikeyno he didn't need to restart.   why do people think that way ?05:09
intelikeynever mind.  i know why.05:09
sd32intelikey: dont forget reinstalling also05:10
intelikeyyeah. i know    just a shame that the mindset has been so skewed by M$05:14
Oloughlin75intelikey: yep05:14
dusharaAnyone got IIIMF working?05:19
sd32is there an irc for the eee pc yet?05:20
sd32guess not yet because the lack of much of a repository05:24
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»05:36
jblack007is that for me?05:37
jblack007cos this is my first time here05:37
jblack007u mind if i can ask you how to go abt my way here?05:38
intelikey!welcome | jblack00705:40
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jblack007thanks man05:41
intelikey!topic | jblack007 one more.05:41
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sivajii want to rename all the *.JPG to * jgp in /image dir  is it possible to do this with script05:42
intelikeyfor Q in /image dir/*.jpg ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done05:43
sivajiintelikey thanks i will try05:44
intelikeyerrr actually that may fail with spaces in the names.05:44
intelikeytry this one.  echo "/image dir/*.jpg"  | while read Q ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done05:45
jblack007how can i get the command list in this IRC?05:45
sivajiintelikey its not working05:47
NickPrestaalternatively, I came up with this: for x in *.JPG; do small=`echo $x | tr 'JPG' 'jpg'`; mv $x $small; done05:47
NickPrestaI'm not sure if mine does what you want. It worked in my test case.05:47
sivajiNickPresta intelikey thanks a lot05:47
sivajiit works now05:47
intelikeyNickPresta that only works in the same dir.05:48
NickPrestaintelikey, indeed. It isn't recursive.05:48
NickPrestaYou could try this: http://www.linuxweblog.com/node/30605:48
intelikeyNickPresta no i mean you have to be in the dir  i.e.  pwd only.      echo /image\ dir/*.jpg | while read Q ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done05:49
skarhi, i'm running konsole and it runs sh->dash instead of bash, is there a way to tell konsole to run bash from now on?05:49
intelikeyi just checked that,   it will work ^05:49
intelikeyskar change the symlink05:50
intelikey /bin/sh is only a symlink  you can point it at any posix compliant shell05:50
NickPrestaintelikey, oh. `for x in /image/*.JPG; do small=`echo $x | tr 'JPG' 'jpg'`; mv $x $small; done` works for me when called from a different dir05:50
intelikeynot with spaces in the name NickPresta05:51
skarintelikey: well, even then the prompt line is "sh-3.2#", while for another user's login its "root@runner:~#", how do i get the user@host:cwd type of prompt?05:51
intelikeyhave to quote your vars.05:51
intelikeyskar that has nothing to do with shell    that the prompt   is that all you are interested in ?     export PS1="what ever you want here"05:52
NickPrestaintelikey, yes, I forgot :)05:52
NickPrestaintelikey, oh well. It's late and I'm tired. That's my excuse anyways05:52
intelikeyand a good one it is. :)05:53
skarintelikey: hmm i wonder why one user has this prompt, while another doesn't?!?!05:53
NickPrestaheh. I think I'm going to sleep. 0100 here. Goodnight all.05:53
intelikeyskar ~/.profile ~/.bash_bashrc ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc  /etc/profile /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/bashrc and /etc/passwd   can all affect that.05:55
skarintelikey: thanks, am looking into that area :)05:55
intelikeyshalom NickPresta05:55
intelikeyskar you should check the last first.   if the shell is the same they should start reding the other files the same.05:56
intelikeyif not they wont.05:56
intelikeythat sentance no verb.05:57
skarintelikey: wow /etc/passwd was the problem, changed the shell to /bin/bash and it fixed the problem05:57
intelikeyyou're welcome.05:58
draikHow do I remove the loading splash screen?06:02
dthacker-workHi, I'm trying to mount an external USB HD.   After I tell kubuntu to open device in new window, nothing happens, how can I troubleshoot and mount?06:03
glimbogoto system settings then splash screen and then select none06:03
draikglimbo: I want to remove it.06:03
glimbooh sorry06:03
draikI know its in the /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I forgot what needs to be added.06:04
pushaxhas Kubuntu got Openwall built into its kernel?06:04
intelikeydraik nosplash06:04
draikintelikey: Thank you06:04
draikWasn't there something about the frame buffer?06:04
dthacker-workok, I told kubuntu to handle umounted external devices with konq:  now I get this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100006:06
intelikeydraik if you want to prevent fbcon from hosing your consoles   vga={normal|0x0f05|0x0f04} <any of those "should" do that.06:07
intelikeyall i'll see for the next several minutes is  [17188526.728000] Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 81706:10
intelikey[17188528.304000] Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 81806:10
dthacker-workoffers intelikey his condolences. "it was a good drive"06:11
intelikeystill is.   bad disk.06:11
draikI'm getting 960.0 kB/s (average) of a transfer rate from my external hdd to my laptop. Does this seem right?06:11
pawan_what is kde 406:12
dthacker-workhmmm, this is a well known error.  wonder if it was fixed in gutsy.   I'll try the gutsy laptop.06:12
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde406:12
intelikeyi tried to pull a image off cd with dd and forgot that it had that stupid propritary anti-copying holes burned in it....06:12
dthacker-workIs that how MS keeps me from backing up my Age of Empires CD?06:13
dthacker-workfrack: gutsy has same error.  Boo!   off to the forums06:14
draikShould a 38GB file transfer take 12 hours?06:16
intelikeydepends on the interface.  but generally   no.06:17
draikExternal HDD to laptop.06:17
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:17
draikvia USB06:17
intelikeyusb1.0 or 2.x ?06:17
intelikeymore like 2 hours max   best i can tell06:18
intelikeyso 10x what you're getting.06:18
pawan_how to change resolution06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:19
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:19
intelikeythat seems to be what i meant06:19
draikSeems about right06:20
draikintelikey: I'm getting a transfer rate of about 960.0 kB/s06:20
bobbydoes anyone know why i get a06:21
pawan_i want to cahnge to 1024by 76806:21
draikRange is from 940 to 981 kB/s    :(06:21
bobby"ghosting" around the menus? i'm using compiz, and it displays this garbage between the menu and the shadow06:21
draik!fixres | pawan_06:21
ubotupawan_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:21
draik!compiz | bobby06:22
ubotubobby: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion06:22
mrunagicompiz is buggy with kde06:22
intelikeydraik http://www.usb.org/about/usb_nomenclature06:22
pawan_pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart06:23
pawan_[sudo] password for pawan:06:23
pawan_ * Usage: /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}06:23
liranhhi to all06:24
liranhany one can help me with some tech prob - or maybe reffer me to the right channel to discuss it ?06:24
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)06:24
draikHow sad, I don't even get a meg per second on the rate.06:25
draikwoohoo, I just reached 2%06:26
liranhi'm trying to install wine on Kubuntu 7.10 and i get this error line - Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.06:26
intelikeydraik yeah makes me think that something is not configured/enabled/supported correctly there.06:26
liranhafter that i get another line  - Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.06:27
draikintelikey: Where should I begin to look?06:27
intelikeydraik dmesg prolly06:27
pushaxhas anyone got their address list in firefox to sort by visit date?06:27
intelikeydraik from there maybe hdparm ?   not sure.06:28
intelikeyliranh sudo apt-get install wine06:28
liranhi didt that06:28
intelikey!wine | liranh06:28
ubotuliranh: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.06:28
intelikeyalso #wine-hq i think is the official channel for wine     or maybe no dasn just #winehq i don't recall06:29
liranhanother n00b Q : how do i change/add channel ?06:30
draikintelikey: Thanks for your help. I work tomorrow morning. I might let the transfer start in the morning while I'm off to work.06:30
intelikey/join #channel_of_your_choice06:30
synaptikliranh-- you might also need to install wine-config06:30
liranhi think my prob goes far from that - i get a messege that says i need to check my $DISPLAY06:31
intelikeydraik yeah on things that take 'for ever and a day' i normally appoint them a time when i'm not there.06:31
synaptikoh i see. did not read that closely. :)06:31
intelikeyliranh if you stated correctly "<liranh> i'm trying to install wine on Kubuntu 7.10 and i get this error"  sudo apt-get install wine should "NOT" need to open any window.06:33
liranhi entered thta line before i tried to run the winecfg command and it was ok06:34
intelikeyerrr unless you call it from k's quick launch  'alt+f2'  then it would..06:34
jeffobazonihey, do any of you guys think the Qt theme is ugly?06:35
intelikeyok  trying to install != trying to configure.    two entirely different things.   and yes winecfg will need to open a window.06:35
liranhwell i typed it again (the apt-get line) and got this messege : wine is already the newest version.06:35
intelikeyliranh are you trying this from within xorg or not ?06:35
liranhi dont know whats xorg is (well i kinda know but i didnt touch it yet)06:36
* jeffobazoni is asking a question, dude06:36
intelikeyjeffobazoni never seen it personally06:36
jeffobazoniyou know, the Kubuntu button theme thing06:36
intelikey!xorg | liranh06:37
jeffobazoniand Kwin06:37
ubotuliranh: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:37
intelikeyjeffobazoni no actually i don't.06:37
jeffobazoniis this not the Kubuntu channel?06:37
intelikeyjeffobazoni yes.  does that require everyone to use kde ?06:38
bobbyit's been said i'm not patient06:39
intelikeybobby did you ask something ?06:39
bobbynot today no :)06:39
intelikeyclaydoh:   referance to liranh ?06:40
intelikeyoh ^06:40
bobbywell i did, but didnt realize i couldnt ask compiz questions here... they're not too chatty over there though.06:40
intelikeyclaydoh:  referance to liranh ?06:40
intelikeyi can't figure out why if i type oh, and then other text it completes to claydoh: but if just   oh,  it doesn't.06:41
bobbyreference to jeffobazoni if you're talking to me.06:42
intelikeywell you can ask compiz questions here.  but you are not very likely to get them answered here.06:42
intelikeyyeah i was.     didn't notice that he dropped out at the same time as the guy i was talking to     err the other guy i was talking to ...06:43
cheeI'm trying to add a program to the Kmenu. I want one button to run 2 programs at once, whats the command for that? ./dynamips & ./gns3 ?06:43
bobbyok well i guess i'll try again. I'm finding on the right and bottom sides of menus there's a bit of "garbage" or "ghosting" around it, between the menu and shadow. I wanted to know how to get rid of that.06:44
intelikeychee that will background the first and run the second;  yes.06:44
GSF1200Schee: what programs scripts are you trying to run06:44
GSF1200Syou can connect bash commands with &&06:44
cheeI want to run 2 programs, dynamips and gns3 together at same time06:45
intelikeyGSF1200S that would be sequential and conditional06:45
intelikeychee yes background the first and call the second06:45
GSF1200Si didnt realize that.. :)06:45
intelikeysequential non-conditional would be   blah ; blah    sequential conditional  blah && blah2   and  blah || blah2   the first runs blah2 only if blah ends with exit code 0 the second only if it doesn't     and   blah & blah2   will run blah in the background and blah2 in the forground06:47
cheethats too many steps06:48
cheeer. maybe not06:48
cheebut i just needed to know what goes in the 'command' part of the shortcut06:48
intelikeythat's four desctiprions of your options.06:48
cheebut i got the answer and it works. thanks06:49
* chee thinks intelikey is smart06:49
intelikeyecho oh & { sleep 3 ; echo boo ; } && { sleep 2 ; ls ; } || echo ooops     <<< uses them all.06:51
loslalfosintelikey: i already know what you wrote above. what i'd like to know if it's possible to make if ... then ... else ... via command line alone...06:51
intelikey                  ^           see06:51
cheemy last question for the night is how can i config interfaces so they stay that way after reboot? ifconfig eth0 netmask up - goes away after reboot06:52
intelikeymore usable example#   grep -q PS1 ~/.profile && echo yes || echo no06:52
intelikeychee put the static addressing in the /etc/network/interfaces file06:53
cheegood thanks a lot intelikey06:54
intelikeyloslalfos it is also possable to use the "if blah ;then blah ;else blah ;fi" statement  yes...    but  "blah && blah || blah" is shorter06:55
butchhi I need help on mounting a ntfs disk06:56
intelikey!ntfs | butch06:56
butchfdisk -l doesnt work06:56
ubotubutch: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE06:56
intelikeysudo fdisk -l06:56
intelikeyor cat /proc/partitions06:56
butchduh had to use sudo06:57
butchthx intelli06:57
intelikeyactually you shouldn't have to.  but the ubuntu use of udev permissions does make it so that you often do have to.06:58
intelikeythey even had /dev/null only writable by root at one point06:58
* intelikey considers that a bug.06:58
butchok I need to install ntfs3g06:59
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:59
intelikey!info ntfs-3g06:59
ubotuntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB06:59
butchiu just apt-get06:59
butchcat /proc/filesystems   doesnt show ntfs07:00
intelikeycat /proc/partitions07:00
butchSetting ntfs-3g suid root with group fuse...done07:00
butchUsers from 'fuse' group can now mount NTFS volume.07:00
intelikeypartitions not filesystems   /proc/filesystems shows what fs's are currently supported through modules inserted into the kernel07:01
loslalfosintelikey: thank you! have been away for a few minutes...07:01
intelikeyon the cat command ^07:01
intelikeyloslalfos welcome07:02
liranhwell i'm back07:04
loslalfosintelikey: i was just wondering about this "issue" because the other day somebody else was very convinced that there is no "else" way on the command line. what can i say...07:05
liranhmy previous prob still exist07:07
intelikeyloslalfos tell them to test this# if grep -q PS1 ~/.profile ;then echo "ps1 set in ~/.profile" ;else echo "no ps1 not set in ~/.profile" ;fi07:07
intelikeyby default PS1 is not set in your user profile  but it can be set there. with an export PS1='something' dirrective07:08
intelikeyliranh are you trying this from within xorg or not ?07:09
liranhanyone can tell me whats $DISPLAY means ?07:09
intelikeyyep means nothing until it's set07:09
liranhno - i didnt touched the xorg.conf file07:10
intelikeythat's not what i'm asking.07:10
intelikeyare you running xorg ?07:10
intelikeyis xorg running ?07:10
butchthx intelli drive is working07:11
liranhhow do i check if its running ?07:11
intelikeyliranh sorry. i can't help you.07:11
liranhits ok - thanks for trying. i know that my almost 0 knowledge in linux is making it hard to help me07:12
intelikeymaybe someone with a more "pointy clicky thingy" mentality can.07:12
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:12
intelikey<ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. <<< i.e.  the "pointy clicky thingy"    if you use "pointy clicky thingy"  then xorg is running.07:13
intelikeyif you type command for all that you do,  and there is no "window (tm)" on your screen,  then chances are that it's not inside of xorg.07:14
slopi have a problem: adept notifier keeps telling me i have an update.  when i get the update, it says update complete, but the adept notifier is still there. when i click it again, it gets the same update, then tells me its complete...and the process continues. NOTE: i've already done 'sudo apt-get -f install'07:17
liranhwell i'm writing to you from within my PC that runs Kubuntu - and if you mean that "poity clicky thingy" is the GUI then yea its running07:17
intelikeyif you move the mouse around and, there is not a visable mouse pointer on the screen.   then it's likely not inside of xorg.     or if there is one but it is a large white block the size of "all" other charictors on the screen,  then it's probably not inside of xorg.     anything else   then just say "yes"07:17
intelikeyok it is withing xorg that you are typing the command and recieving the error message.    good.  now i can move to the next step.07:17
liranhok i think i got it now - yea i'm in xorg07:18
intelikeytype in the konsole inside of xorg this command and tell me what it says back to you#     echo 1$DISPLAY07:18
intelikeykonsole == the terminal emulator that looks like the "dos prompt (tm) screen" in that other os07:20
liranhit gives back - 107:20
intelikeytyep in this#   export DISPLAY=':0' ; winecfg07:20
intelikeytype ^07:21
liranhgives me the same error07:21
intelikeydisplay the error message here07:21
intelikeyyou can "left click highlight" and "middle click paste"07:22
liranhXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server07:22
liranhApplication tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded07:22
liranhMake sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.07:22
liranhsorry there another line07:22
liranhXlib: No protocol specified07:22
intelikeyliranh ok that's not the same error message.    you were getting "$DISPLAY not set"07:22
intelikeyliranh is that on kde4 by any chance ?07:23
liranhno - its on kde07:23
intelikeyare you in a second instance of kde ?    i.e. used the switch users option ?07:24
liranhi dont think so - i've restarted the machine several time so i guess not07:25
liranhbut at the first time i entered this PC there was another user logged on07:26
intelikeyyou can press# alt+ctrl+f7   to find out.   if it changes anything then "yes" if not then "no"   and if it changes anything then    alt+ctrl+f8   to switch back  or f9 depending on how many sub servers deep you ar07:26
liranhwhen i pressed ctrl+alt+F7 - nothing happend, when i pressed with F8 it changed the screen07:27
intelikeyanother way to test. type in this#   export DISPLAY=':0.1' ; winecfg07:27
liranhwhen i typed "export DISPLAY=':0.1' ; winecfg" - i got this : Xlib: connection to ":0.1" refused by server07:29
liranhXlib: No protocol specified07:29
intelikeyliranh yes what you found with   ctrl+alt+f8   was probably the leftover bootup messages in tty8    ubuntu linux has 6 login consoles (tty[1-6]) and one grapthical server in tty7  avtive by default   and you can activate up to 255 of them.07:31
liranhwell how do i close all of them ? - hardreset maybe ?07:31
intelikeyliranh one other thing i want you to check, type in#   ps aux | grep -v grep | grep ':0'07:32
liranhi got alot of output from that07:33
intelikeyliranh you don't want to.    if you even need to fix xorg because it wont run how will you do that without a tty ?   and they are not permiscuos07:33
intelikeyliranh don't show us.07:33
liranhok - so what should i look for in that output ?07:34
intelikeyanyone else around that might know why he's getting a connection error....07:34
intelikeyoh wait.07:34
intelikeyi know why07:34
intelikeyyou are in a "root" shell07:34
liranhi'm out of root07:35
intelikeyyou can't connect form another user.07:35
intelikeynow run the     winecfg07:35
intelikeyor even      sudo winecfg      if you need too.07:35
liranhOMG !!!!!!!!!! - its working07:35
liranhyou are one hell of a guy07:36
westyis this support for ps3 kubuntu too?07:36
liranhor gal - whatever07:36
liranhlike i said i'm just a beginner and that is definently a n00b error07:36
intelikeywesty if anyone here can help you with it they probably will.07:37
liranhand to think i spend like 2 hours on that07:37
intelikeyliranh yeah it was almost so "obvious" that i over looked it.07:37
authorhrm hi everyone.  third time ive installed kubuntu 7.10 (or so i thought).  things are going swimmingly finally but when i use adept to try to update it says a package (the updated kernel) would break the system; it cancels the update but says theres a version upgrade available.  now dist-upgrade.py has *zero* activity, and the version upgrade is stalled at Installing the upgrades: 0%.  second time this has happened.  any ideas on07:40
authorhow to bypass this?  (for the record, the CD *is* kubuntu 7.10, the version to upgrade to is 7.10, and my ubuntu 7.10 works flawlessly)07:40
westyokay the question i have is i just downloaded the kubuntu gutsy gibbon and at the kboot i hit enter and it shows this---get memory ranges1 modified cmdline:root=label=/ file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed quiet -- and it shows disconnect on all usb drives and dergistered on all drives also07:40
westyand it just sits there and does nothing07:40
liranhwell thanks for all the help - i'm off to subottage my system ;)07:40
authorpeace, liranh07:40
westyi had gentoo on there but really like kubuntu but looks like i have to go back to gentoo07:41
westyunless there's an explanation why i have a bugged copy07:42
westyif its bugged in the first place07:42
intelikeyauthor i think if you check the forums that's a known and well documented bug.07:44
authordoi thank you...sry O:-)07:45
intelikeywesty sounds like it can't find it's own butt with both hands...07:47
westyhmm what would be the cause of that?07:47
intelikeyi mean the cd's initramfs can't find the cd07:47
westythats retarted07:48
westyso in other words the official cd of kubuntu is broken in other words07:49
westythats for ps3 i mean07:49
westynot for pc07:49
authorintelikey: afraid i didnt see any threads though im sure im missing it, but running it from console (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and working fine so far.  better get off this app before it updates :-P07:50
authorty for your help, have a good day/night07:50
intelikeyyeah i'd say that pretty well sums is up.    it's not easy to make an initramfs that will fit into ram at boot time and can do all things for all people07:50
vijayhi every107:50
westywell damnit that sux07:51
intelikeylast time i checked the initramfs was like 6g compressed07:51
intelikeywesty could a net install work for you ?07:52
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate07:53
vijaycan any 1 tell me "how to disable data compression in cdma modem" ?07:53
westythis is a couple more things out of that boot thing07:54
westyps3-ohci-driver sb_06 remove state 107:54
loslalfosintelikey: i'd like to do an install on an old computer which can only boot via diskettes. i'd like to do a netinstall like debian provides...07:54
westyusb usb4: usb disconnect, address 107:55
intelikeyloslalfos have a look at the page ubotu mentioned ^07:55
loslalfosintelikey: of course not. i'm unable to stretch time yet. ;)07:56
westythen shows ps3-ehci-driver sb_03 and 04 and 05 usb bus 1 deregisterd07:56
westyjust thought i'd post that maybe someone had the same problem i having.. might try another cd but thats a BIG DAMN MIGHT lol07:57
studentehi aòll07:57
studentehi all*07:57
loslalfosbut the pages i read so far where about old versions of ubuntu. maybe i should rephrase it to: i wish there were an *officially* supported netinstall for ubuntu like debian has. ;)07:57
loslalfoslike debian has=like debian has for debian :D07:58
westyhow old your computer los?07:58
intelikeyloslalfos that's why i pointed at the link ^07:58
dhqmounting "aufs on union failed": no such device07:59
westywhat you could do is maybe a sshd on another distro07:59
westyand do net install that way07:59
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westyif that works on ubuntu07:59
loslalfosintelikey: yeah, i should stop complaining and start reading, right? ;)07:59
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westyhey jesse08:00
HTML-insaneLo there.08:00
jesseDoes anyone here know Compiz-fusion well... with Kubuntu?08:00
HTML-insaneI got Compiz Fusion working on Feisty yesterday...08:00
jesseBecause I can't seem to get it to work.08:00
HTML-insaneHow convenient.08:00
jesseI'm on Gutsy.08:00
HTML-insaneAh, well that might be the problem...08:00
jesseI'm a little Linux-tarded.08:01
HTML-insaneI couldn't get it to work on Gutsy.08:01
HTML-insaneJust google, "Compiz gutsy" and look round.08:01
jesseI just reinstalled Kubuntu for the third time because I screwed something up trying to run Compiz.08:01
HTML-insaneOh, and if the menubars don't show, you should type into the, "run" dialogue: "kde-window-decorator", or if you have it, "emerald --replace".08:02
westytry that08:03
jesseYeah, but I have a habit of doing something wrong and then I can't type anything into the run dialog.08:03
HTML-insaneAh, I see what you mean...08:03
HTML-insanewell, try the link. It might be better then what I can tell you, which is go to Feisty.08:03
jesseAnd then I go to restart, and I type in my log-in, and the desktop doesn't load.08:04
jesseThat's why I had to reinstall. lol08:04
jesseBecause I couldn't get in.08:04
jesseI really need to get a separate laptop to run Linux on.08:04
jesseI have a feeling I'm going to eventually do something that'll screw up my Windows side, too.08:05
westythats easy just dont screw nothing up and dont touch that partiton08:05
jesseWait. This is an off topic room?  I just looked at the top of my Konversation window.08:06
HTML-insaneAll I see is, "#kubuntu".08:06
westyeven if you do screw it up 9 times out of 10 its something easy to fix if you screw up the windows partition ie:defrag before partition is a must08:06
jesseThat appears to be a link bar.08:06
westyunless you wipe it out lol08:07
HTML-insaneEw, I used to have a windowz partition...08:07
westyits more like winblowz08:07
intelikeyi used to have a partition08:07
jesseThe reinstalling Kubuntu doesn't bother me all that much.  It's the fact that unetbootin doesn't store a copy of the iso it used for the previous installation.08:07
jesseBut, at least it isn't Wubi.08:08
jesseI couldn't stand Wubi.08:08
westyi have to have a winblowz partition cuz the ol' lade dont know how to use linux gentoo08:08
westyso i have vmware installed for here08:08
westybla good thing i have 4gigs of memory08:08
westyfor her**08:09
jesseWhat exactly is wmware?  Does it install Linux for real or does it install a virtual Linux like Wubi does?08:09
HTML-insaneI think it's a virtual machine.08:09
HTML-insaneAnyway, you can make restore points in the command line...08:09
westyeither used on winddows or linux or mac08:09
HTML-insaneLet me check.08:10
westyits emulated off of a ibm computer i belieive08:10
intelikeywesty my mother was 60 when she got her first computer.   it had win98 on it.   i installed mdk9.0 when it came out and switched her over.   she never has complained about it.08:10
westythats crazy08:10
jesseAs far as I know, what I use installs a non-virtual Linux.08:10
jesseIt does partitions.08:11
authorhi all.  fully updated system, latest stable, just installed and updated.  try to mount my windoze drives to access my mp3s and get hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000.  open systemsettings, go to user admin, click Administrator Mode..., put in my password and it returns without putting me in admin mode.  close, run sudo systemsettings, add "disk" to my user's permissions.  i even *restart* my comp.  same hal error.08:11
authorany ideas on either the problem with admin mode or the hal drive access permission?08:11
pushaxlamer quesiton.   how do you install a .KIT file?  I downlaoded password gorilla and it's in a kit form for linux.08:11
intelikeyauthor known bug,  known fix.08:11
authorgah im sorry again.  ill find the url itself but what *site* should i look at?08:12
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HTML-insaneYeah, to stop from having to reinstall every time you muck up, got to the directory, "/etc/X11" (the X is a capital!)08:12
jesseWait. What exactly do I do?08:13
jesseWith the X11?08:13
jesseIs there a command or something?08:13
HTML-insaneIn the command line, type, "cd /etc/X11".08:13
jesseSeriously?  It's that simple?08:13
jesseHoly crap.08:13
HTML-insaneThe command line is really easy.08:13
intelikeyjesse  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  is the command to reconfigure your xserver08:14
HTML-insane"cd" for, "change directory".08:14
jesseNo. I meant is that all I really have to do to fix the problem.08:14
jesseI know what cd means.08:14
HTML-insaneOh, no.08:14
HTML-insaneNot finished yet.08:14
HTML-insaneWhen you're in that directory, type, "cp ./xorg.conf ./xorg.conf1"08:14
westythats will save a backup for you08:15
HTML-insaneThen, whenever the GUI doesn't load, you can go to /etc/X11 in the command line and type, "cp ./xorg.conf1 ./xorg.conf"08:15
intelikeyjesse  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  is the command to reconfigure your xserver <<< if you can remember that command you can always fix your xserver.    using the "vesa" driver when prompted will get you a working xorg on almost all hardware.08:15
HTML-insaneIt's like a windows restore point that you can access in the command line.08:15
* intelikey was finnished in one command.08:16
jesseThat is so fucking simply brilliant.08:16
jesseOops. Sorry for the language.08:16
jesseI mean, come one.  That makes total and complete sense.08:18
jessecome on*08:18
HTML-insaneThat's what you're given the command line for. :p08:18
intelikeyHTML-insane you do realize that specifying the path would work in one command.   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup   <<<< backup   restore >>>> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:19
intelikeyjust a thought.08:19
jesseWait. One more question.  When you type change the path, does the original path remain as a file? Does ./xorg.conf remain there?08:20
HTML-insaneYeah, I realise that, but for the people that can't be bothered remembering the directories, or otherwise like to use midnight commander...08:21
intelikeyif you cp (cp == copy) it does.  if you mv (mv == move) it doesn't08:21
* intelikey uses mc !08:21
HTML-insaneThere you go then :p08:21
intelikeywhat newB'z need to learn is tab-completion08:22
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:22
Agent_bobintelikey is dead.    long live intelikey!08:25
jesseOkay.... So... the command "cd /etc/X11 cp ./xorg.conf ./xorg.conf1" should be done BEFORE I mess with compiz.  And then if I screw up, I just log into Failsafe mode and enter "cd /etc/X11 cp ./xorg.conf1 ./xorg.conf"08:25
authorintelikey: regarding the admin mode button on systemsettings, im seeing one bug report with no real solution.  yes, i can run it from console with sudo but seriously i need a solution, not a workaround!08:25
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authormmk intelikey appears to be gone...might anyone else be able to assist me with either issue?  :(08:28
Agent_bobauthor i'm sorry.  maybe i misread you eariler.   thought you were asking about the bug with bug in the update manager. showing updates when there are none.   "now dist-upgrade.py has *zero* activity, and the version upgrade is stalled at Installing the upgrades: 0%."08:28
authori worked around that by running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from konsole08:29
Agent_bobok then i don't recall pointing you at another bug report ???08:29
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authoryou didnt, you said known bug known fix i think08:30
authorregarding the admin mode button08:30
intelikeythat was about the update manager08:30
intelikeysorry for any confusion.08:30
authorugh, ok.  im sorry if i was unclear.  shall we start over?08:31
authorok sec to type08:31
dthacker-workI need more coffee08:33
intelikey"hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000."  <<<   i think that's a known bug too.  but i could be wrong about it.     seems like it's something to do with not being in the right group or something.08:33
intelikeyi don't use hal so i have not the foggiest08:34
dthacker-workintelikey: I installed ntfs-config, then I did a force mount at the command line.  Not pretty, but effective08:34
authorthats what i thought too - i added myself to the "disk" group, which was teh only existing one i saw that seemed relevant other than hal-daemon which i assume is incorrect (or is it?) and it had no effect08:34
intelikeyhal-daemon is probably it08:35
ubuntummm se puede hablar en español aqui?08:35
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.08:35
ubuntuok thanks08:35
authorbut but but....  i assumed that was regarding controlling the hal daemon.  gah!08:35
intelikeybut but but... maybe it's reguarding what hald controls insted08:36
authoroh DUH disk is for floppy disks...aka linux 10108:36
authori forgot cuz i havent used a floppy drive on linux in a LONG time :-P08:37
intelikeyis it disk   or disks ?08:37
authordisk :-P08:37
intelikeyvely intelesting08:38
authorcall it the demise of linux but there should be a way to add comments in /etc/groups (is that it?) that can be interpreted as tooltips :-P08:38
dthacker-workauthor: is this an external disk?08:38
authordthacker-work: nope, internal sata-ii08:39
author...that windows thinks is removable08:39
intelikeydthacker-work it's the   hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000   error08:39
dthacker-workdo you know the device?08:39
author /dev/sda, im trying to access...erm i dont know the partition number, i can check if you liek08:39
dthacker-workyes, I had that earlier tonight in different circumstances08:39
ubuntuNobody answer in the other 2 channels, the spanish ones, maybe its because they are sleeping, anyway, i need some help, im new in GNU/linux08:40
cafkai am trying to mount /dev/sda7 but i get this.. mount: can't find /dev/sda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab??08:40
ubuntuim trying to install in my machine08:40
authorcafka you must specify where to mount it to08:40
authormkdir ~/sda7; sudo mount /dev/sda7 ~/sda708:40
intelikeycafka   sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt08:40
authorerm that wont work thatll mount it to a non-existent dir in /root :-P08:41
dthacker-workhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601210   is a hal thread08:41
intelikeyubuntu continue.08:41
intelikeyauthor actually no.  that will work.08:41
intelikeyauthor the tild is expanded by the shell before sudo ever sees it08:42
authorintelikey: good point, though i would bet theres a shell out there that wont replace it until after the sudo :-P08:42
ubuntuok i have a little trouble setting up the partitions because i dont know anything about it just know that i reserved a space (with no partitioning) to install linux but i dont know what kind and space of partition to make08:42
authorintelikey: its "better" to put the dir in /media or /mnt anyway, i just always forget about 'em08:43
intelikeyauthor it's like using this to fix ownership problems#  sudo chown -R $USER $HOME08:43
authorintelikey: wow, thats either lazy or brilliant, depending on your view.  :-P08:44
intelikeythat's a generic that should always work08:44
dthacker-worklazy *is* brilliant.   Larry Wall says so.08:44
authorprobably help if i knew who that was08:44
dthacker-workThe author of perl08:45
authorbtw the admin mode button is mysteriously working i *think*08:45
intelikeylazy works harder to keep from working than diligent does working08:45
authorah.  nice ^.^ i know richard stallman and linus torvalds, thats about it08:45
intelikeydthacker-work perl  </gag>08:46
dthacker-workperl is just one thing on my trusty utility belt.    and I should get back on topic.08:47
intelikeyubuntu linux needs about 4+ gig of unpartitioned space to install     the installer (ubiquity)  will help you set it up when the time comes.08:49
intelikeydthacker-work oh come on,  stay OT for a while.  we have a little fun around here while the ops sleep.08:50
authorerm the thread says the workaround for the hal issue is to add policykit to the system.  im not seeing policykit in adept, and i even *feels smart for a very very tired person* enabled third-party repos and fetched updates (community/unsupported repos were already on)08:50
ubuntuok, thanks im going to see what happens08:50
intelikey!find policykit08:50
ubotuPackage/file policykit does not exist in gutsy08:51
intelikeythe bot isn't finding it either.08:51
authorso i saw :-P08:51
intelikey!find policykit dapper08:51
pinepainhi, what is comand name to show kde settings dialog08:51
ubotuPackage/file policykit does not exist in dapper08:51
intelikeypinepain kcontrol08:51
pinepainintelikey thx08:52
authorah it appears that it may not have been debianized yet08:52
dthacker-workauthor: halfway through that thread there is a tip on opening Dolphin, selecting media and the unclicking mount as usr08:52
authorfrom some random forums: "08:52
authorIs there any08:52
author information on when policykit is going to be debianised?08:52
authorim sorry for the 3 line post, it really shouldnt have put in newlines there....08:52
dthacker-workthat got me halfway there (external drive, mind you) and then I used the "force command" to mount the drive successfully08:53
intelikeybeing ineteral  i'd just setup fstab to mount it.08:54
authori was hoping to find a way to mount it as intended, rather than change my settings to adapt to a broken system08:54
dthacker-worksudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/newdisk -o force08:54
intelikeyand cut hal completely out of the loop08:54
andyany one know how to fix the mplayer firefox plugin?08:54
pinepainwho know how to disable automount dialog08:55
intelikeyauthor using fstab is not adapting to a broken system.  it's using the linux (not the ubuntu) way08:55
authori dont want to automount it, and id be fine typing sudo mount /dev/... but if its this silly ill go back to my ubuntu (gnome) where, even though its gnome not kde it *works*08:55
dthacker-workandy: what is wrong with your firefox mplayer plugin?08:56
authorim not gonna take steps backward, i want to use kde and not gnome (and dont tell me i should install kde on my ubuntu, i dont want gnome installed *period*)08:56
intelikeyyou dont have to automount it   just because it's in fstab     sheesh08:56
dthacker-workgo author go!  can I get a witness!08:56
authordthacker-work: rofl im not trying to be confrontational :-P08:57
ubuntume again, still with the same problem, i have enought space to install kubuntu linux but i have several hard disks so when in the install tutorial im trying to install kubuntu, there is some part when i have to choose where i want to install it08:57
andydthacker-work: it doesnt work at all it used to actually try and work you would see the mplayer logo and controlls but wouldn't play anything but now after i messed with it can't even see controlls any more08:57
intelikeypreaching at the choir author     say on@08:57
ubuntuso i select manual mode because none of the other methods works for me08:58
dthacker-workauthor:  I'm with you.  I'm Gnome free!08:58
authorintelikey: lol ok.  so whats the solution, barring taking any steps backward?  cuz i know how to work in the command line perfectly well, im plenty comfortable there, but i still like graphics, d...arn... it!  (dono the obscenity policy, better safe than sorry)08:58
ubuntubut when i select the manual mode, i dont know in my free (non partitioned) space what to do so if you can help me making the right partitioning i will apreciate alot08:59
dthacker-workandy: can you uninstall the plugin and re-install it?08:59
authordthacker-work: nothin against gnome, i know a lot of people who like it and its a great system, but im a kde guy whos been denied kde for long enough!08:59
andydthacker-work: i tried that nothing changes09:00
intelikeyubuntu   you select "make new"   ext3  file system09:00
pinepainany one know how to disable autorun dialog?09:00
intelikeyubuntu select that as the / (root) file system09:00
dthacker-workpinepain: the dialog box appears when you do what?  Put in a CD?09:00
ubuntuok in this ext3 file system partition i select all the free space?09:01
intelikeyauthor i don't have x installed here.09:01
dthacker-workandy: If reversing your change doesn't work, then it's Google time.  I haven't used that plugin....09:01
intelikeyubuntu you might want to leave about 512 meg  for a swap partition09:01
authorintelikey: i would *hate* that - this isnt a work computer, this is my home computer!  i like linux  (primarily) for two things when im at home: window snapping/controls and eye candy.  ^.^09:02
andyit was googling that made it worse dthacker-work09:02
intelikeyubuntu is it a laptop ?09:02
pinepaindthacker-work, yupp, when i connect any removable storage device09:02
authorfun stuff, i unchecked that mount as user box and it still didnt work.  *sigh*09:02
intelikeyauthor i'm not much on eyecandy.   couldn't care less about it.09:03
ubuntunope its a desktop09:03
ubuntua normal pc im bad at english sorry09:03
intelikeyubuntu ok then you probably wont be wanting to "hybernate" the system   so 512 meg of swap should be plenty no matter how little/much ram you have.09:04
ubuntuok great09:04
authorok, i need to get some sleep so i can hopefully talk to someone in sweden before she goes to bed.  take it easy everyone.  its sad but i think i may end up going back to gnome yet again....09:04
intelikeyauthor that's the spirit....09:05
authorhave a good ...whatever it is for you guys09:05
authorthx for your help09:05
dthacker-workpinepain.  System-Settings-->Notifications--->Storage Media Notifications.09:06
andywhere are the firefox plugins kept?09:06
intelikeyi do actually have one box with xorg {gnome|kde|xfce4|blackbox|fluxbox|twm} installed on it.   i just never seem to use it for anything.09:06
dthacker-workold skool!09:07
intelikeyandy probably either /usr/share/firefox/*   or /usr/lib/firefox/*09:08
dthacker-workandy: don't know.  Only use a few.09:08
intelikeyi didn't like firefox much better than i liked sun(tm) products09:09
pinepaindthacker-work, and how to disable for all media type09:09
ubuntuOk im creating the ext3 partition this are the settings that im putting i hope they are ok  here it is: type for the new partition: primary partition size 51364 megabytes Location for the new partiton (i selected none of the 2 options) Use as: ext3  Mount point (i cant select any option but i think that here i write "/root" im right)?09:10
intelikeyuse   /09:10
intelikeynot   /root09:10
ubuntuoh ok09:11
intelikeyand seeing that you have 51g  it might be to your advantage to devide that into 6g / and 45g /home09:11
intelikeyor 10g /   and 41g /home09:11
dthacker-workpinepain: hmmmm.  The delete button doesn't seem to be active on those.09:11
dthacker-workpinepain: I guess I don't have a quick answer.09:12
ubuntummm i dont know but you seem to know more than me so that its what im going to do09:12
TimSHow can i list all the USB devices attached to my computer?09:12
intelikeythe reason i mention using a seperate /home file system   is that you can in the feuture reinstall without losing the data in /home  but you can not easily do so with the data in /09:13
intelikey@ubuntu ^09:13
twosouls82TimS: lsusb09:13
ubuntuooh ok now i get it09:13
TimSubuntu: It would be more likely that you would use just /09:14
dthacker-workpinepain: About disabling the "notification window" try:09:14
dthacker-workkcontrol / peripherals / storage media ; select unmounted removable media; select "do nothing" and click on "toggle as auto action09:14
ubuntuthat 6 or 10 Gb are the ones for instaling the Kubuntu system09:14
dthacker-workpinepain: ymmv09:14
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intelikeyubuntu yes indeed,     and the other is only a sujestion.   you can set it up as seems good to you.   but you must have one / file system of at least 4g  for things to work correctly09:15
intelikey4+ gig /09:15
ubuntuand in this case i still have to create the 512 swap partition right?09:15
intelikeycould be 400g /    but does need to be at least 4g09:15
dthacker-workOk, time for me to schlep home.  Good localtime all.09:15
ubuntuyeah, no problem it will be 10 Gb09:15
intelikeyubuntu yes still an extended swap of about 512m09:16
intelikey1g if you want more room09:16
TimSOkay, I have a usb deviced plugged in at Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0fce:e031, how can I find its tty?09:16
pinepaindthacker-work, actually it is too kludge way, it must be easy, some conf file. but thx, anyway =)09:17
ubuntuim gonna create all the partitions09:17
intelikeybut you will probably never use it all.     i don't even have a swap space.09:17
intelikeystill talking about swap  ^09:17
dthacker-workpinepain:  ask at launchpad.09:17
dthacker-workI need a chicken taco.  later.09:18
intelikeygood $localtime dthacker09:18
ubuntuthe data partition in the mount point option i write "/home"?09:19
pinepainis there any blacklist in kopete for icq users?09:20
ubuntuand in the swap partition, the same mount point option what i write?09:22
intelikeyubuntu in the swap you make the file system type swap and no mount point09:22
ubuntuok perfect09:23
ubuntuits all done im going to proceed with the installation09:24
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pinepainhi, is there any kind of blacklist in kopete for icq protocol?09:29
TimSOh dear. I tryed to mount something and its gone wrong, I now tried to remove the directory it was supposed to mount in as I don't need it and its having trouble.09:31
TimSOh dear. I think somethings wrong. What should I do.09:31
intelikeyTimS where did you mount it ?09:32
TimS /home/tim/se09:32
intelikeysudo umount /home/tim/se09:32
TimSsudo umount /home/tim/se09:33
TimSumount: /home/tim/se: device is busy09:33
intelikeyTimS ok close the konqueror or konsole that is looking at it and try again09:33
TimSThe device I mounted was 1-6 as that showed up when i plugged in my usb device and tried dmesg09:33
TimSIt is closed.09:34
intelikeyshow me the mount command you issued ?09:35
TimSI used a program to mount symbian file systems so it was p3nfsd09:35
blazehow can I run an application visible on all virtual desktops from terminal? is it possible?09:36
intelikeyuse the program to umount it09:36
TimSand just used the options for /dev/1-6 and the mount point of /home/tim/se09:36
TimSMy kicker has crashed. doh.09:36
TimSIt has no unmount command09:37
intelikeyblaze probably.  but i don't konw how.09:37
intelikeyhehhe  /dev/1-6   lol  oooops.09:37
TimSIs that bad?09:37
TimSIm guessing yes :P09:37
intelikeynot really.   just go the windows way,   reboot.09:38
MGalaxyhi, I use compiz-fusion. Now, I have to click only and only on a window's TitleBar to active it, the windows wont be activated when I click on the other place of the window. Any solution?09:38
* intelikey can't believe he really typed that.... 09:38
TimScan I do a hard reboot intelikey or should I do it via the terminal.09:38
TimSThe kicker has crashed so I can't do it the normal way :P09:38
intelikeyTimS try sudo init 609:38
Lynoureblaze: why from the terminal? Is setting it in kde settings to start by default on all desktops an ok way? (you only need to set it once)09:39
intelikeyi still can't believe i just told someone to reboot....09:40
* intelikey is going bonnkers. and should just leave.09:40
blazeLynoure » this app is awn :)09:40
holasamene can help me o cofigure mey webcam09:41
Lynoureblaze: sorry, don't know what app being an awn means...09:41
TimSWhere did intelikey go!09:41
TimSI wanted to tell him that i loved him09:42
Lynoureblaze: oh, avant-window-navigator?  Never tried it, claims to be for gnome...09:42
TimSI have used it on KDE before.09:43
Lynoureblaze: still, if it needs to be on all desktop, kde:s window rules might still help. Tried them and they did not?09:43
blazeok, I'll try09:44
holasamene can help me o cofigure mey webcam09:45
jvesHello, I  just changed to Kubuntu from Fista. Got everything working, only when I play movies in VLC they freeze evey few seconds for a short time...09:45
jvesAnyone any experience with this?09:46
TimSjves: Does it happen in any other media player?09:47
Lynoureblaze: let me know if it worked09:48
ubuntuwell it installed already im going to reebot09:49
ubuntuthanks alot inteliked for your patience09:50
jvesIn Kaffeine I didn't get anything visible at all....09:50
TimSYou need the correct media codecs.09:50
TimSVLC comes with them, but its better to install the proper ones.09:50
emilsedghmaybe thats the graphic cards problem09:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:50
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emilsedghi had such problems a few years ago, that was because of misconfigurations and bad drivers of video cards09:51
holasamene can help me o cofigure mey webcam09:51
jvesI use the restricted Nvidia driver with a Nvidia 7900 Go 256Mb card....09:53
blazeLynoure » yes, it works, tx09:54
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TimSFreenode is not very nice. He kicks me when I am down.10:11
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!10:49
lordraydenhi all10:52
lordraydenanyone knows a good cd ripper for kubuntu? I don't feel like experimenting right now :)10:53
lordraydeni'm running v 7.10 now10:54
MilhousePunkRockSince enabling TwinView with nvidia-settings, I experience unreproduceable hard-freezes of my system, I assume that's xserver-related... My xorg.conf now holds 3 monitor, device and screens sections, the first seems to be the old single-screen one and the other two for the seperate screens... Someone mind looking at it? http://pastebin.ca/91494410:54
MilhousePunkRocklordrayden: I use KAudioCreator and am satisfied with it...10:54
MilhousePunkRocklordrayden: Else, kio-slaves will do you the job too10:55
lordraydentnx, I got it, I'll give them a try10:55
lordraydeni used k3b till now and it's taking 2 long10:55
MilhousePunkRocklordrayden: Easiest is opening the audio cd in konqueror and copying the mp3 folder where you want it to be10:55
MilhousePunkRocklordrayden: You'll still need cdparanoia and lame, if I am not mistaken10:56
lordraydenwhat about the quality? I want to listen good tracks :)10:56
lordraydenwhat do u use, if u use any?10:57
MilhousePunkRocklordrayden: I use 192 kbit CBR, that's good enough for me to listen to on the PC and my portable player...10:57
lordraydenk, that's what i was askin for10:58
sivajii was trying to boot from livecd kubuntu , i can see the progessbar starts and then  everything goes blank nothing happens10:59
lordraydensivaji, U have an option to install text mode, did u try it?11:01
DuzchipHi everyone. I've just got my mobile modem to connect on my kubuntu 7.10 -computer but it doesn't seem to wanna use the ppp0 connection11:07
DuzchipI can see its connected but i cant use the connection11:08
DuzchipHow do i pick which interface to use?11:08
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demon4aresonhi i'm having a problem i istalled kubuntu and while i was try to get updates yesterday my machine completly froze11:23
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demon4aresonat first my bf thought it was a if you dont move your mouse in x time setting but i cant find one11:24
demon4aresonnow he thins it may dslke my hardware again11:24
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weedarDoes anyone know if there's a new power manager for kde4 like the one in kde3 that shows batterystatus and cpu speed?11:49
weedarIf not, what's the name of the old one :)11:49
tdnMy sound volume is much lower after upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10! I have tried adjusting the volume in both alsamixer, aumix, kmix, etc, but none of it helps. How do I fix this? I do not even know how to investigate this problem any further.11:53
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harmentalhey guys...since i upgraded to kde 3.5.9 im experiencing two SERIOUS issues: 1) the kded process is taking up tp 40% of my proc and 2) kubuntu does no longuer recognize any of my usb drives.....12:04
harmentali need help truly asap....12:05
harmentalgoogle didnt help either...12:05
siofwolvestdn, i had the same problem, but alsamixer worked for me.12:07
shockheadhey folks12:08
shockheadi just realised that if I point konqueror at a sun java calendar (.wcap) then it opens it in an embedded korganizer :-)12:08
shockheadanyone any idea how I can just load it as a resource in Kontact?12:08
shockheadI found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kresourcewcap/12:12
shockheadbut I can't figure out if it's included in kubuntu12:12
shockheadsounds like it must have been if it works in konq, but the option's not there in kontact12:13
Aikurnmaybe konq opens it as a local calendar file12:16
shockheadAikurn: yeah, i tried that in kontact, and it didn't give me any errors, but the calendar was empty12:16
Aikurntoo bad12:17
Aikurnlook at the file type properties, wich app is it using to show the embedded part?12:18
Aikurnoh, and thanks to you i've just discovered that i can add my contact's birthdays as a resource to my calendar :)12:18
shockheadyep, great isn't it :-)12:18
shockheadthe screenshot on that link showed an extra resource being listed in kontact... :-/12:19
shockheadwill look at properties12:19
shockheadAikurn: hmmm... i'm not even sure how to check the file's properties... korganiser has completely taken over my konqueror :-)12:20
Aikurnlol, don't worry it's not as evil as it looks12:21
Aikurnwell, KResourcesWCAP doesn't seem hard to compile12:22
tdnsiofwolves, then what do I do when alsamixer does not help?12:23
rakanhow come "webmin" is not in kubuntu repo?12:24
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ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.12:25
Dr_Willisits not in the debian repos a any mor eeither12:25
shockheadAikurn: true... I'm doing it now.. Just wondering if it's already packaged away somewhere on my system (or included in kontact)12:25
Dr_Willisyou could install it from source if ya want12:25
Aikurnshockhead: oh, ok12:26
Dr_Willis!info ebox12:26
ubotuebox (source: ebox): eBox - Base framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 1220 kB12:26
ubotuebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec12:26
rakanwill try ebox12:28
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anne_I feel like a complete idiot asking this, but why does this always echo my error message?12:35
lukas_is there anybody?12:36
Dr_Willislukas_,  301 people here it seems.12:36
anne_Don't count on it. I know, though, that etiquette is you ask your question right off the bat.12:37
re-alignDoesn't mean any of us are paying attention to this chat...12:37
re-alignWe seem to have scared him off... :(12:38
whitmananne_, ASOUNDRC=/home/anne/.asoundrc.asoundrc <-- is that line right? Missing a / maybe?12:38
anne_whitman: nope, that's what the file is called. .asoundrc.asoundrc12:39
whitmanok, just looks odd12:39
anne_whitman: I know. I didn't name it, though12:39
Dr_WillisHmm.. thats odd.. ive never seen one named that befor12:39
re-alignRight. I have a fairly recent install of Kubuntu 7.10 and haven't changed much with it (just installed a few packages, mostly games and drivers and such; also updated what I can). I'm now looking to change the theme. Any theme managers I should try, or avoid?12:40
Dr_Willistheres a lot of kde themes in the repos - not installed by default. Play with them12:41
Dr_WillisKDE 'themes' are a bit more complex then windows themes if thats what you are used to.12:41
anne_Dr_Willis: might be that you haven't used the convenience macro before - asoundconf set-default-card - it might create that file. .asoundrc refers to it.12:41
Dr_Williswillis@kitchen:~$ ls -a .a*12:43
Dr_Willis.asoundrc  .asoundrc.asoundconf12:43
Dr_Willissomthing is... confused here.. :) You or me..12:43
tdnFirefox is using 50% CPU all the time, when it is just idling. I think it is the Flash plugin that is causing problems. How do I fix this? It is extremely annoying on my laptop, because it drains the laptop battery.12:43
lukas_you are all a bit confused12:43
Dr_Willislukas_,  we love u 2.12:44
shockheadDr_Willis: yeah, i get that too.. :-(12:44
anne_Dr_Willis: y'know, it just might be me.. I think I might have written asoundrc.asoundrc :s12:44
Dr_Willisanne_,  thats what im thinking also. :)12:44
Dr_Willis!? :)12:45
re-alignAnd then there's my MP3 player, I plug it into the USB port and kubuntu doesn't seem to notice it (or know what to do with it). As for the repos, I'm fairly new to Ubuntu/Kubuntu, so I don't have more than the basic ones that it installs by default, plus one I had to add for my EVDO card (some medibuntu reps as referenced in one of the tuts on the kubuntu forums).12:45
lukas_dr willis ,sorry but my english isnt very good12:45
lukas_dr willis????12:46
Dr_Willislukas_,  well - i have not noticed you actually asking a question yet. :)12:46
lukas_im out of germany so  i can not understand all the things you told me12:47
* re-align thought English was required learning in German schools these days...12:47
Dr_WillisWe said to ask a question if you have one.12:47
Dr_Willisalso theres a german channel12:47
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:47
lukas_i dont no that12:48
Dr_WillisTheres Lot of other language channels :)12:48
lukas_baut the english chat is a bit funny12:48
ubunturosis running dapper drake in 2008 same as running 4.10 in 2006?12:49
lukas_yes but i never were on konversation12:50
lukas_so i have some little problems12:50
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warren_je souhaite passer au wifi pour une raison mais je suis un peu nul12:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:58
warren_cote compatibilité, puis-je acheter nimporte quel routeur wifi?12:58
warren_i am sorry12:58
re-alignbah, guess that one doesn't work...12:58
re-alignThere may be a channel for French speakers, the bot doesn't seem to like me...12:58
Dr_WillisBot was slow to answer. :)12:59
re-alignAh, I see it now.12:59
re-alignStill needing some assistance with my MP3 player. Under Windows it doesn't read like a removable drive, but like a portable media device (i.e. Windows recognizes it as an MP3 player and not a flash drive as it does with some models). Kubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with it though. It's a Samsung YP-U3.13:01
Dr_WillisI just use mine as removeble hard drives.13:02
Dr_Williscould be amarok, or some other apps might be able to see it as a special player.  but i rarely use those13:02
psycose hello let's say i  want to start a new GPL project, called "myubuntu" should i ask permition to the ubuntu copyrigth owner because of the same name ? thanks (ubuntu is just an exemple ;-)13:03
re-alignI'm not even sure how to mount it as a removable drive. I used to mount flash drives under Ubuntu, but that method doesn't seem to be working with this (or maybe it's just been long enough I've forgotten how to do it correctly...).13:04
Dr_WillisHmm.. Plug it in - and kde should pop up a dialog asking what to do with it.13:04
Dr_WillisOr go hard-kore and mount it from the terminal. :)13:04
Dr_Willisbe sure to unmount befor removing the device13:05
Dragnslcrpsycose- if the code is GPL, you can fork it however you want. If the name of the project is trademarked, you'll probably have to come up with your own name13:05
re-alignI plug it in and nothing happens (or at least, nothing seems to happen).13:05
solarieshi all13:05
Dragnslcrpsycose- of course you can ask the trademark owners to use the name, but it's up to them13:05
solariesafter updating ubuntu I get "GRUB error 18" and it does not boot any more. Any similar incidents?13:05
Dr_Willisre-align,  check 'dmesg' output  and the 'removeable media' specail konqueror place.. (whatever its called)13:06
re-alignIt charges though, but that's simply due to the presence of power on the USB bus.13:06
Dr_Willisa mp3 player that also charges from the USB port.. thats a nifty feature13:06
DragnslcrMine does13:06
Dr_WillisI got a GBA/DS cable that lets me charge them from USB. :)13:06
re-alignI've had 2 that do that. They're both flash based, not hard drive.13:06
psycoseDragnslcr: thanks where can i find if the named is trademarked ?13:07
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re-alignOne was a Sony and it was read as a flash drive by both Windows and Ubuntu. Unfortunately it died.13:07
Dragnslcrpsycose- the project's website may have a licensing page that says what you can do with the name. Otherwise you'd have to ask someone involved with the project13:07
re-alignThe new one is the Samsung and is read differently for some reason...13:08
psycoseDragnslcr: ok thanks13:08
DragnslcrI've had good luck with my Cowon. Only problem I've had is that I can't get Amarok to see it, even though it's supposed to be supported13:08
metamooCan anybody help me get my onboard sound working? I'm stumped. I have no /dev/dsp, shows up in lspci as unknown device. It was working ok in opensuse 10.313:10
re-alignRight, here's the relavent dmesg output: http://www.pastebin.org/2087913:12
psycoseDragnslcr: so do you the the owner of GCC ?13:14
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swattohi all13:19
swattoanyone here play Nexuiz?13:20
re-alignLemme guess, no one's making sense out of the dmesg output I posted the link to...or maybe everyone's busy...13:20
sivajii have more than 100's of .JPG file , i want to assign name like 1.jpg , 2.jpg ,.... is it possible to do with script13:23
Dr_Willissivaji,  yes it is.13:23
sivajiDr_Willis how13:24
epsilornhi! i'm trying to install latest alsa drivers but i've got this problem during Debuild :install: cannot stat `include/sound/*.h': No such file or directory13:24
Dr_Willissorry only one  q./ per day. :)13:24
epsilornhave you gto some clues?13:24
Dr_Willissivaji,  heh - there are some gui renamer tools. Or  write a script that uses mv, or other tools13:24
re-alignAny way to list connected USB devices? lusb doesn't seem to work.13:30
re-alignAside, of course, from dmesg...13:30
Dr_Willis!find rename13:31
ubotuFound: kdeaddons-kfile-plugins, gprename, gwenrename, krename, mp3rename (and 3 others)13:31
Dr_Willissivaji,  i tend to use a tool called 'qmv' thats in some find name tool package.13:31
sivajiDr_Willis ok13:31
Dr_Willistheres a windows tool called 'bulk rename utility' that i like. :) it runs with wine.13:34
chartoincan someone direct me to somwhere I can get help on xgl sessions13:41
chartoincan someone here help?13:43
Dr_Willisi dont use xgl. sorry13:46
romunovwhat's that "package" called where you install apache, php, mysql?13:49
nosrednaekimchartoin» whats wrong?13:49
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)13:49
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gavohi... i am having a problem with my NTFS partitions... they are not automounting, and when I enter disk and filesystems under SYSTEM SETTINGS => ADVANCED, and try to manually enable, I get an error stating NTFS appears to be marked in use... though I have 3 seperate NTFS drives and they are all acting indentically13:55
mrunagigavo:  i had that same problem'13:56
mrunagilemme see your fstab entry13:56
gavomrunagi I am always glad to hear when I am not alone!13:56
gavourmmm im a bit of a noob... could you let me know how to view what you want to see?13:57
gavoand what is a good paste-site to put the error into?13:57
mrunagithat makes me think you didnt add the fstab entry13:57
mrunagido you have ntfs-3g installed13:57
re-alignBah, this is getting really annoying...anyone else having issues with Adept telling you the database is locked, and there's no other process using it?13:59
mrunagire-align: occasionally, if i cant kill the process i just restart13:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adptfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:59
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:00
re-alignI get it every time I use any form of Adept, even from a fresh boot (cold, reboot, etc.)14:00
mrunaginosrednaekim: youre my hero14:00
gavomrunagi - no I didnt manually add any fstab entry... the drives are usually automounted during installation in *most* other distros, i thought it would be the same14:00
gavoill check if ntfs-3g is installed... just a sec14:00
mrunagigavo: i believe kubuntu can read and write by default but install it anyway14:00
re-alignIt pops up this window where it offers to try fixing it for me, and when I click Yes, to have it do so, it crashes with signal 6.14:00
mrunagisudo apt-get install ntfs-3g14:00
nosrednaekim!adeptfix | re-align14:01
uboture-align: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:01
mrunagigavo: then sudo apt-get install ntfs-config14:01
gavoit appears that i have it already14:01
mrunagigavo: good14:01
gavo"ntfs-3g is already the newest version"14:01
mrunagisudo kate /etc/fstab14:01
mrunagido you have an entry in there for your drive14:02
gavoyes i do14:02
mrunagidoes it say ntfs or ntfs-3g14:02
gavoi can see them because of their drive allocation numbers, not the drive labels14:03
mrunagiis it internal or external14:03
gavoits actually 3 partitions on the same HDD14:03
mrunagiUUID=E87CDBA97CDB70B4 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 114:03
mrunagimimic that14:03
mrunagido yo uknow the uuid?14:03
gavono sorry    i dont     is that the device id?14:04
romunovnosrednaekim: thanks about the LAMP thingy14:04
re-alignRight, that's running now. Strange thing is, I've had this problem since install and don't recall any of the frontends crashing (except when I try to have them autofix the problem).14:04
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)14:04
nosrednaekimre-align» hum... who knows :)14:05
re-alignUsually when I click on No (to not have it autofix and operate in 'read only mode') it will operate normally.14:06
re-alignThat seems to have fixed it, thanks.14:07
re-alignNow, maybe I can get it to install mtp-tools...14:08
mrunagigavo you still here?14:09
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swattoanyone know how i can check if compiz is working correctly14:18
nosrednaekimswatto» either compiz is working or its not :)14:19
nosrednaekimswatto» and you should be able to tell quite easily14:19
swattowell ive got the advanced desktop settings thingy14:20
swattoand i can select plugins and stuff but how do i use them14:20
nosrednaekimswatto» look into the "shortcuts" or "key bindings" for each plugin14:21
nosrednaekim!find encode14:22
ubotuFound: grabcd-encode, libencode-perl, python-formencode, mencoder14:22
swattoah yes i see but what is super key?14:23
nosrednaekim!search encode14:23
nosrednaekimswatto» Meta, or the windows key14:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about encode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:23
swattowhats meta?14:24
jpatrickswatto: win key14:25
martijn81the front page of kubuntu.org needs an update for hardy14:26
nosrednaekimmeta is what KDE calls the win key14:26
swattohmm dont think its working then14:26
fiyawerxtravkin: hi?14:27
fiyawerx[09:27] [CTCP] Received Version request from travkin to channel #kubuntu.14:28
swattohmm the keys are not doing anything14:28
martijn81hi travkin14:28
jpatrickfiyawerx: thanks for the heads up14:28
fiyawerxnp, what was that about?14:29
jpatrickfiyawerx: he got a list of every client connected to this channel14:29
jpatrickfiyawerx: bad, cos it's just attackers do14:29
* fiyawerx nods14:29
nosrednaekimswatto» try reasigning the shortcuts14:31
swattoInitiate is disabled and i can click it and it says New Acclerator... and then i click away from it and it changes back to Disabled14:32
swattopaint on fire ^^14:33
nosrednaekimswatto» when it says new acclerator...press the key combination14:33
subspiderhi everybody14:33
mrunagiHI subspider14:33
subspiderhehe i don't use ir for ages14:34
swattodone that but pressed it and nothing happens :(14:34
swattopressed the key combination14:34
subspidercan anybody tell me what is the program to know the temperatura of my cpu  in kubuntu14:35
Dr_Willis!info lm-sensors14:35
ubotulm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB14:35
TimS!info ksensors14:36
subspideri allready have that14:36
ubotuksensors (source: ksensors): lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-15ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 296 kB, installed size 920 kB14:36
subspiderbut it doesn't show me the temperture14:37
mrunagiError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.............anyone know how to fix this? i get thissometimes namely when i do sudo kate14:37
TimSIt should.14:37
TimSsubspider: try kima, that does for me.14:37
TimS!info kima14:37
ubotukima (source: kima): kicker monitoring applet. In component universe, is optional. Version (gutsy), package size 114 kB, installed size 448 kB14:37
nosrednaekimswatto» maybe type in the key combo....not really sure... #compiz-fusion might be of greater help14:38
swattook cheers14:39
subspideri install kima how do i run it14:40
re-alignHmm, used to be you could tell XChat to not reply to CTCP version requests...anyone know how to do this in version 2.8.4?14:40
mrunagii assume sudo apt-get isntall kima?14:40
mrunagior is that a stupid assumption14:40
romunovwhat's the command to softlink files/direectories?14:40
epsilornhi i'm rather noobie, what does it mean when trying to compile a package i got this: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library libasound (soname 2, path libasound.so.2, dependency field Depends)?14:40
mrunagiepsilorn: missing dependencies14:41
epsilornso what i gotta do?14:41
mrunagiepsilorn: can you not install using apt-get?14:41
subspideri use synaptic14:41
epsilornno it's latest driver14:42
mrunagieither way14:42
subspiderit sais is installed14:42
mrunagirun it subspider14:42
prince_jammysromunov: ln -s14:42
subspidersorry i'm new14:43
mrunagitype kima in the prompt?14:43
nosrednaekimromunov» ln -sf source dest14:44
epsilornmrunagi: it's altest dirver i cannot use apt-get14:44
subspideri wrote but it sais can not run the specified comand14:44
mrunagiepsilorn: is there any documentation on what dependencies you need14:45
epsilornmrunagi: no, it's said it should install directly14:45
mrunagii dunno how to help you epsilorn, there are missing dependencies but i dunno how to figure out which14:46
epsilornmrunagi: so I, thanks anyway for your kindness14:46
mrunagino problem14:47
mrunagiits the kubuntu way14:47
mrunagieven though no one has helped me on my recent problem :D14:47
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epsilorneheh probably nobody knows14:47
mrunagipossibly, but the error doesnt look super weird14:47
carateWhy Can't I Voluntarily Feel Pain For A Long Time Like Years At A Time? i do anything in my power to stop feeling the pain and i can't ever do anything to feel pain voluntarily. imagine me being homeless that would be hell and I am close to being that. what is my issue?14:48
mrunagiout of habbit i was opening ubuntu forums to fix carate's problem14:50
subspideri can't run kima14:51
nosrednaekimmrunagi» lol14:51
subspiderbut in synaptic it sais is installed14:51
nosrednaekim!sudo | mrunagi14:51
ubotumrunagi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.14:51
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)14:52
nosrednaekim!search konverter14:54
subspiderkdesudo <program> don't work14:56
subspiderit sais comand not found14:56
nosrednaekimsubspider» if you are on fiesty.... you need to use kdesu14:56
subspidernow sais x serv not found14:57
subspidercannot conect to x serv14:57
magarelliHow can I change channel?14:57
romunovtype "/j #newchannel"14:58
romunovor double click the "#channel"14:58
ibouis it possible to get itunes ?15:00
subspideruse amarok is better15:00
bastior banshee15:01
subspideri have an ipod and it work15:01
ibousubspider: i like amarok but i don't like the presentation of the shoutcasts15:01
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok15:01
SlimeyPeteibou: if you really want itunes, I hear it works under Wine15:01
SlimeyPetebut I haven't tried it myself15:02
subspiderit work15:02
subspideri tryed15:02
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.15:02
subspiderbut i just want to know the temeperature of my cpu15:02
iboubasti: does banshee have a nice shoutcast presentation ?15:02
prince_jammys!conky | subspider: see if this has it15:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:03
prince_jammys!info conky | subspider: see if this has it15:03
ubotusubspider: see if this has it: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB15:03
subspideryou can configure the amrok it have many many pulgins15:03
ibousubspider:  do you know a good plugin for shoutcasts ?15:04
subspidergo on kdelook15:04
subspiderjust give me a minute15:04
ibouwhat is kdelook ?? a wabsite ?15:05
prince_jammysibou: yes15:05
prince_jammys!themes | ibou15:06
ubotuibou: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy15:06
ibouprince_jammys: ok15:06
gavohey mrunagi   just wanted to let you know that I fixed the problem but booting with a Ghost rescue disk, and running a disk check, including chdsk, and fixing the errros15:06
gavosoon as i booted back into kubuntu, the drives automounted :)15:06
subspideri tryed conky it's working but it doesn't shor temperature of my cpu15:09
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto15:09
iboui noticed a bug : when i play a video with mplayer from a device. After, i can't umount this device. The only way is to kill two dbus processes. Anyone else noticed that ?15:09
tdnFirefox is using 50% CPU all the time, when it is just idling. I think it is the Flash plugin that is causing problems. How do I fix this? It is extremely annoying on my laptop, because it drains the laptop battery.15:09
tdnMy sound volume is much lower after upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10! I have tried adjusting the volume in both alsamixer, aumix, kmix, etc, but none of it helps. How do I fix this? I do not even know how to investigate this problem any further.15:10
nosrednaekimtdn» turn up the volume on the PCM channel15:10
INOSHUHey... I have a question?15:16
nosrednaekimask INOSHU15:16
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INOSHUWhich Ubuntu-compatible media player is most similar to iTunes? (both in terms of interface, and certain features... I don't need iPod support, but i do need MP3 support, tag editing(preferably but not essentially including album art), ratings, and smart playlists... CD burning would be nice too but I can live without it)15:16
jpatrickINOSHU: amarok15:17
nosrednaekimINOSHU» Amarok can do all that easy :)15:17
INOSHUthanks ^^15:17
INOSHUit's available in the normal programs manager?15:17
martijn81it is installed by default15:17
ibouINOSHU: yes15:17
INOSHUah ok15:17
INOSHUthanks ^^15:17
nosrednaekimits installed by default in kubuntu15:17
iboumy problem is that i would like to see the bitrate on shoutcasts and i can't see them with amarok15:18
martijn81ibou: also not when you enable a collumn for bitrate?15:19
subspideri installed ksensor it works fine15:22
subspiderbut still no have the capacity to view temperature of my pc15:22
subspideri have a laptop15:22
subspiderand sometimes is just turn of15:23
subspideri think is temperature15:23
subspideris to high15:23
BluesKajhowdy all :)15:23
nosrednaekimsubspider» did you run the sensors-detect command?15:23
nosrednaekimhey BluesKaj....15:23
iboumartijn81: yes i can do that but i have to select the radio first. I would like to have the bitrate and descritption of each radio in the radio selection aplet (on the left in amarok)15:24
BluesKajhi nosrednaekim15:24
BluesKajibou, in order to know the bit rate , the bitstream has to be detected first , some stations will advert it in the station title but most don't15:26
ibouBluesKaj: ok15:27
kaminixIs there any way to make a folder on one drive update itself with a backup of what's in the folder of another drive?15:27
mrunagianyone know how to fix Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.15:27
nosrednaekimmrunagi» yes... use kdesudo instead of sudo to run graphical apps15:28
mrunagithats so confusing =(15:28
mrunagii learned on sudo15:29
mrunagikdesudo is hard to remember15:29
mrunagibut then again i also learned to use gedit, i still do that from time to time15:29
mrunagimy window decorator crashes every time i start compiz15:30
nosrednaekimmrunagi» are you using emerald15:31
nosrednaekimmrunagi» grab emerald....15:32
mrunagihey nosrednaekim maybe you can help me figure something out, when i reinstalled kubuntu the zoom effect thingy stopped on the quick launcer, and i liked that any idea how to fix that?15:33
martijn81where is the kubuntu alpha5 release?15:33
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andres__anyone can speak in spanish?15:33
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.15:34
DDiuGGwill compiz run on integrated graphics? I am currently running the kubuntu 7.1015:34
nosrednaekimDDiuGG» what integrated graphics?15:35
mrunagi depends on how good the integrated graphics are DDiuGG15:35
DDiuGGumm 1 sec15:35
DDiuGGjust installed it15:35
subspiderhow do i stop a program15:35
subspiderlike conky15:35
llutzsubspider: killall conky15:36
DDiuGGIt states in KInfo Center Intel 82845G/GL15:36
nosrednaekimDDiuGG» yup..compiz should be fine on that15:36
subspiderthnks ilutz15:37
DDiuGGdo you know any good tuts to perform the install....   I am coming from MS... and I am disgusted w/ Vista15:37
subspiderwho is not DDiuGG15:38
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion15:38
DDiuGGwow thank you for the help... I will go attempt it and cross my fingers15:38
subspiderhow we know if our grafic card is well installed15:38
DDiuGGumm I don't15:38
DDiuGGhow can I check15:39
subspidercause my laptop is a bot slow15:39
nosrednaekimDDiuGG» intels rarely have problem with drivers15:39
DDiuGGthank you15:39
subspideri have a intel to15:39
subspiderit sucks15:39
JoTrockenhi all - how may I display the size of my graphical ram?15:40
JoTrockenwith gutsy15:40
martijn81where is the kubuntu alpha5 release? i downloaded the ubuntu live-cd alpha5 per accident15:40
DDiuGGfirst line in tut asks if I am on "Feisty" what is that and am I with default kubuntu install?15:40
subspideri installed and it shows15:40
subspiderbut you want something grafic like a it have in vista??15:41
DDiuGGnever mind not needed on gutsy15:41
seezerJoTrocken: try lspci -v15:41
seezerthen search for your "VGA compatible controller" - it should contain a line like:15:42
seezer        Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]15:42
chartoinhi guys, this is an emergency15:45
chartoini have a panel and a taskbar15:45
chartoinI activated panel hiding buttons15:45
chartoinand now my panel has dissappeared below the task bar15:45
chartoinwhat do I do15:45
chartoinI can't move the taskbar15:46
chartoin(It souds silly)15:46
martijn81guys, the kubuntu front page need an update for alpha515:47
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martijn81for the people searching for the iso: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-5/15:48
DDiuGGI cannot find this15:51
DDiuGGAnd for Kubuntu: KMenu -> Settings -> CompizConfig Settings Manager or KMenu -> Settings -> Advanced Desktop Effects Settings15:51
chartoinI can't get my panel15:51
mohihow can I share the internet bettween two kubuntu?15:55
DDiuGGok compiz tries to start w/ the cmd "compiz -- replace" then the screen goes black and then just returns to the default kubuntu desktop.... Any thoughts?15:55
BluesKajchartoin, alt+F2 ,kcontrol /desktop/panels15:56
NickPrestaDDiuGG, any errors or output? Sounds like compiz is failing and is reverting back to kwin.15:56
DDiuGGnope no errors15:56
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subspiderhi can anybody halp me on configuring amsn15:58
subspiderwhen i click on my e-mail it can't open firefox15:59
mohihow can I share the internet bitween two kubuntus by a cross cable?15:59
DDiuGG_1983any way to troubleshoot why compiz is failing when nothing is being reported to screen16:00
chartointhnx BluesKaj16:00
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phobesAm I wrong or is Konqueror looking in files to determine what filetype they are?16:12
SSJ_GZphobes: Unless it has a known extension, Konqueror will decide the type of a file based on its contents.16:13
phobesSSJ_GZ:   Ya, and a mere launch association is not a filetype association16:14
mrunagi_what is a grub 18 error16:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto16:14
eddyi work in c++, and i already download the kdevelop, but when a compile de source text, the system said " *** exited whit status: 1*** what da hell is that ?16:17
markithi, I've kaffeine installed, but can't play .flv and .avi files... what package am I missing, and how can I discover what is missing?16:19
prince_jammysmarkit: probably kubuntu-restricted-extras16:19
prince_jammys!avi | markit16:19
ubotumarkit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:19
Sephnrotherm.  so, with kubuntu gusty gibbon which i just recently installed on my laptop I was just doing an update, told adept to do a full update and it was going fine but whilst commiting changes it failed on like qt3 or something.  after i confirmed the dialog, it crashed out completely.  when i tried to run it again it said that the file it uses was locked16:19
Sephnrothwould i like it to try and resolve the problem, i told it yes and it bombed again16:19
markitprince_jammys: I'll have a look, thanks16:20
Sephnrothso i restarted the laptop.. and now when i select ubuntu from grub it says error 15: file not found -_-16:20
MrJigsawHow do i install a install.sh file ?16:20
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: that file is a shell script.  try typing ./install.sh16:21
root______de que se trata esto16:21
prince_jammys!es | root______16:21
uboturoot______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:21
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: if it's not running, then ::    chmod 755 install.sh  and try the above16:22
MrJigsawwhere do i write install.sh ?16:22
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: move to the dir where the file is in Konsole16:23
MrJigsawwhats that? cd ?16:23
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: yes ... cd /path/to/dir16:24
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: 755 will make it rwxr-xr-x (executable by everyone, writable only by your user)16:25
MrJigsawIll just drop it..16:25
MrJigsawIs there anyway to make a virtual machine for free ?16:26
prince_jammysi don't know16:27
prince_jammysabout virtual machines16:27
ubuntuhi, which are the spanish chat servers??16:27
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto16:27
NickPresta!es | ubotu16:27
ubotuubotu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:27
NickPresta!es | ubuntu16:27
ubotuubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:27
ubuntuok thanks16:27
MrJigsawI cant get any app to burn labels on DVD's so i need a virtual machine fore verytime i need to do that.. :|16:27
MrJigsawmeaby any of you know how to burn labels on DVD's in linux ?16:28
prince_jammys!br | Hellscream16:30
ubotuHellscream: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.16:30
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BluesKajMrJigsaw, google 'lightscribe for linux'16:39
MrJigsawI need to print on them.. with my printer :-)16:40
MrJigsawI tried using wine and the app i used in windows.. but it just tells me 'No supportede printer was available' ..16:40
BluesKajMrJigsaw, can you print in linux without wine ?16:42
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw» can that program print to PDF, or postscript.. or a file?16:42
MrJigsawIm not using wine to print.. i can do that with out problems :-)16:42
MrJigsawBut i need a special app to print on the CD's...16:42
BluesKajlightscribe prints on cds16:43
MrJigsawyes.. in the drive16:44
MrJigsawNot using a printer afaik ?16:44
MrJigsawIts slicing in the CD16:44
BluesKaj'lightscribe' prints on cds and it may have a linux version...dunno whether you want to print paper labels or print on the label side of a cd ?16:44
MrJigsawI want to print a picture ON the CD16:45
mrunagi_hehehehe im turning my dad over to linux16:45
BluesKajMrJigsaw, well then why are you trying to use a printer ?16:45
MrJigsawOg my god..16:45
MrJigsawBecause thats what a printer can?16:46
BluesKajthe print side of a cd is burned using the laser in you burner16:46
BluesKajI give up16:47
MrJigsawThats lightscribing.. I need to PRINT!!! (PRINT NOT SLICE) on the CD16:47
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw» you have a printer that can do that?16:47
MrJigsawYes i have..16:47
MrJigsawffs ive done it to more than a 1000 CD's in windows..16:47
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw» hrm... It would very much depend on the printer I would think.16:48
BluesKajmrunagi_, I'm trying to convince my son to switch to linux :)16:49
nosrednaekimwell... this ain't windows....16:49
MrJigsawand now i keep getting fucking KDE error..16:50
BluesKajwhat kind of printer is it MrJigsaw?16:50
BluesKajmake & model16:50
MrJigsawCanon iP450016:50
neosakiAlso, watch language.16:50
BluesKaj!language | MrJigsaw16:50
ubotuMrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:50
cheddarcheeseisyis JFS supported?16:50
MrJigsawyou guys are so holy.16:51
mrunagi__hehehehe im turning my dad over to linux16:53
jpatrickmrunagi__: yay, I did that to mine ages ago16:54
mrunagi__im trying to get him to sell computers with linux on it16:54
neosakiI haven't done that as too many of the applications he needs are on Windows >.>16:54
mrunagi__figured that people that just want internet and email cant do too much damage16:54
mrunagi__kubutnu is slow on a 900mhz machine =*(16:56
neosakimrunagi_ Its not if you recompile the kernel on that machine along with KDE and run it minimalisticly.16:56
neosakiI'm running Kubuntu on my old 800mhz mobile terminal right now.16:56
Saiedwhere can i find qt4.4 packages for gutsy?16:57
mrunagi__but not with x server right?16:57
neosakiUmm...yes with XServer16:58
lordraydenis there a music player in linux that allows me to rate the music I listen just like WMP?16:58
mrunagi__how do i recompile16:58
mrunagi__im on the live cd16:58
lordraydenon star basis :)16:58
nosrednaekimSaied» riddell's PPA16:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recompile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:58
neosakiWhy the heck would I not put XServer on my terminal? I mean, I love command line, but X allows me to easily multitask.16:58
nosrednaekimlordrayden» amarok can do that16:58
mrunagi__neosaki: can you help me recompile it so that it runs faster?16:58
neosakimrunagi__: The LiveCD is going to be slow anyway you look at it.16:58
Saiednosrednaekim: where is it?16:58
neosakiYou gotta install it first.16:59
mrunagi__lol yea but this is REALLY slow16:59
lordraydeni right click on it and no chance :(16:59
neosakiUmm... Yeah16:59
neosakiInstall first16:59
nosrednaekimSaied» google it16:59
Saiednosrednaekim: ok. tnx17:00
neosakiAlso, make sure you know exaclty whats in your machine as far as hardware.17:00
nosrednaekimlordrayden» hum, I know i've seen it...17:00
mrunagi__i have a 4.3gig hard drive is that enough?17:00
lordraydenso? a better replacement 4 amarok?17:00
Saiednosrednaekim: it is for hardy or gutsy?17:00
nosrednaekimSaied» I'm not sure.17:00
lordraydengutsy 4 me, 4 him, ida no :)17:01
nosrednaekimlordrayden» nah.. you just gotta find where it allows that, cause I swear it can do it... ask in #amarok17:01
mrunagi__neosaki: is it possible to install kubuntu without x running, this is taking forever17:01
lordraydenk tnx17:01
Saiednosrednaekim: maybe there are some source packages that i can build them for gutsy17:01
nosrednaekimSaied» mebe17:02
nosrednaekimmrunagi__» use the laternate installer17:02
mrunagi__thats not an option for me =(17:02
mrunagi__can i kill the x server and do it from the command line?17:03
nosrednaekimmrunagi__» you can't17:04
mrunagi__its still reading the disk17:04
lordraydenbtw, did anyone install *buntu on nforce3 /w amd64?17:04
lordraydenkoz it don't work 4 me :(17:04
mrunagi__is it really suppose to take this long17:05
mrunagi__lol the mouse is locking up too17:06
nosrednaekimmrunagi__» how much RAM do you have?17:07
lordraydentnx 4 the #amarok idea, I got my answer about rating music :)17:09
Raleskgood software is good, gdebi-kde just ate no less than 1100MB of memory just to install a 15MB deb file.17:11
nosrednaekimlordrayden» how do you do ti?17:11
nosrednaekimRalesk» 0.o17:12
Ralesknosrednaekim: I'm just as surprised.  Especially since it's python.17:13
nosrednaekimwhat package were you installing?17:13
Ralesksomething I downloaded from Intel17:13
RaleskI'll uninstall and see what dpkg does, I doubt it'll go above noticeable memory use.17:14
Raleskyeah, maxed out on 20 megs.17:16
nosrednaekiminteresting... try install with gdebi again... i'd sayit was cause for a bug17:16
RaleskI installed twice, first Linux killed it for eating all the memory17:17
Raleskthe second time it managed to install it:)17:17
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DDiuGGok I just completely reinstalled kubuntu from the 7.10 iso, I tried installing compiz for kubuntu but when I restarted the screen was just black. Not knowing much about linux I was forced to reinstall. Can anyone give me a hand getting compiz for kubuntu installed?17:19
PhilRodhi, I'm using kde 3.5.8 on gutsy. I noticed that links clicked in kmail do nothing. If I try, eg, "kfmclient exec http://www.kde.org" I also get nothing. Looks like something is up with my web browser settings, unless this is a known problem17:19
PhilRodthe install is pretty new, so I'd be surprised if it's a config problem my end. Anyone got any ideas?17:20
martijn81DDiuGG: best is to ask in #compiz17:21
PhilRodoh yeah, running "konqueror http://www.kde.org" works fine17:21
DDiuGGthank you17:21
Ralesknosrednaekim: LOL, okay, this is fun... I opened my own software's package with gdebi (that's non-root yet) -- 69.9kB deb file, I know what's in it, and without touching, just displaying, the thing occupies about 75MB RAM already :D17:23
Arwenis there any GPLv3 software in Ubuntu?17:24
nosrednaekimArwen» kde417:24
* PhilRod reminds y'all that reported memory usage probably doesn't mean what you think it means17:24
nosrednaekimRalesk» still thats awful17:24
Arwennosrednaekim, is there a manpage for gpl3?17:24
nosrednaekimArwen» don't know17:24
Arwenthen how can I access the GPLv3?17:25
nosrednaekimArwen» the liscence is available online17:25
PhilRodprobably in the about page of apps too17:26
Ralesk250 in my RAM, 200 iin my swap now while installing XD  and growing.17:26
stdinAranel: /usr/share/common-licenses/ contains a few common licences including GPLv317:26
stdinArwen: ^17:26
nosrednaekimRalesk» thats bug material right there :)17:26
Raleskany idea where I could get a hold of gdebi people? (like, not sure if using the ubuntu bug tracker is necessarily a good idea)17:31
holasameone can help me to configure my webcam?17:31
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras17:32
stdinRalesk: look in /usr/share/doc/gdebi-core/copyright, gdebi is an ubuntu product so using launchpad is as direct to upstream as you can get without sending a personal email to the author17:33
holajpatrick: is it not mentioned17:33
Raleskstdin: ah, thanks :)17:34
nosrednaekimRalesk» I pinged the KDE port writer but he isn't answering.17:34
RaleskI did an apt-cache show gdebi and saw an original maintainer with @debian.org address so I suddenly thought it might not be an ubuntu project afterall17:34
RaleskI'll fiddle with launchpad then, thanks17:35
ubuntuDoes somebody know how linux/kubuntu is worknig with internet. You see in windows it cannot identify (network) which is, directly connected thrue FiberLAN, but in Linux it just works directly out of the box. Wondering what the difference between them are.17:36
stdinRalesk: when a product is in both debian and ubuntu the original maintainer is always the current debian maintainer, it's something that debian requested we do17:36
ubuntusorry for ubuntu-name, I am on live-CD for the moment17:36
Raleskkinda backwards, but eh :)17:36
nosrednaekimubuntu» might want to ask in #windows since the problem is not with LInux17:38
holasameone can help me to configure my webcam?17:39
ubuntunosrednaekim: It is not a problem, I just want to know how kubuntu is handling my internet connection.17:39
nosrednaekimubuntu» through knetworkmnager17:40
ubuntunosrednaekim. Yes but I meant a little more on the hardware and software connection.17:40
ubuntuHow they are working together .P17:40
nosrednaekimubuntu» uhhh... perfectly:) though the kernel I suppose17:40
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ubuntunosrednaekim: okay, well I suppose so. I am just curious what the difference between GNU/linux and windows are, when they handle the internet connection? ;P17:44
BluesKajhow to retag an avi file so that a stand alone player will see it as a divx file (which it is) . the tag was stripped when I wrongly used avidemux to join the 2 vcd files together17:44
Ralesknosrednaekim, stdin: bug reported :)17:46
nosrednaekimubuntu» the kernel and netowrking stack.... windows uses a modified BSD stack since 2000 I think.17:46
nosrednaekimRalesk» thanks17:46
Ralesknosrednaekim: I think in Vista they dropped the BSD stack.17:46
ubuntuallright, maybe thats the "problem" in Vista. But it does not work on either Vista or XP. Or uhm, it takes some years for the so called "network" to identify itself inside Windows.17:47
Raleskat least that's what I heard -- there's some strange issue with their implementation of DHCP anyway -- can easily flood and kill a subnet with it :)17:47
ubuntuSometimes it says limited connection, sometimes, local connection, but in Linux it just works :D17:48
nosrednaekimubuntu» well... I would say that was a very fortunate set of events XD17:48
Ralesklimited connection is I think when there's no real connection, but Windows gives your network interface a Private IP address anyway17:48
nosrednaekimRalesk» yeah.. come to think of it, I heard that too17:49
sakiI don't know what you've been doing, but I've had an easier time setting up Windows Servers than Linux ones. Not to say I don't try to enforce my clientel to use Linux servers were applicable, but lets just face it, you can setup a Windows Server that sees all of the other Windows machines on the network in a matter of minutes.17:49
Raleskso what's this FiberLAN thing exactly -- do you directly connect via fiber optics or is it a normal ethernet LAN you plug into your computer?17:50
hatmanHi all !17:50
ubuntuRalesk: okay, but there is a "real" connection. Oh and worth to mention, we just got the FiberLAN, maybe could be it has not fit into the surrounding yet :D17:50
hatmanI'm tying to do an "update version" (to from feisty to gusty) but my adept software doesn't show any "update version" button17:51
jaguilerahi, just updated using adept updater and when it finished I got this bt: http://pastebin.ca/91528617:51
hatmanany idea ? I looked to some bug posts and on forums, but no tip worked for me17:51
ubuntuRalesk: It is just directly, or almost after the modem translator ;) I just drag a LAN-cable (CAT5), directly into my computer.17:51
jaguilerai'm not sure if it gives any real info on the problem, worth filling a bug?17:51
Raleskubuntu: ah, so then it's likely ethernet as far as the computer is concerned, the fiber is one step later17:52
jaguileraseems like some object is deleted in the update using delete directly while having some slots connected to it...17:52
Raleskthat should Just Work in windows too, so that's really weird that it doesn't!17:52
nosrednaekimhatman» did you add the fiesty-proposed repo?17:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uograde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:53
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes17:53
hatmannosrednaekim: in my apt-source.list ?17:53
nosrednaekimjaguilera» did the update fail?17:53
nosrednaekimhatman» yup17:53
martijn81damn, anyone knows how to rescue a intel mac from an installation with grub?17:53
ubuntuRalesk: yes, you could think so. Seems windows cannot handle pure Fiber directly. On the other hand, for the moment there is no router or switch. It is just, yes connected to fiber.17:53
jaguileranosrednaekim: nope, apt-get doesn't complain about anything17:54
hatmannosrednaekim: yes, i have this: deb ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-proposed restricted main multiverse universe17:54
Ralesksomething does convert from optics to copper wire, so hmm :)  but yeah, maybe the protocol is something else that Windows just doesn't want to deal with... no drivers supplied by the FiberLAN provider or anything?17:54
nosrednaekimjaguilera» to be certain, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" IDK if its worth a bug report17:54
nosrednaekimhatman» did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades17:55
hatmannosrednaekim: yes sure17:55
jaguileranosrednaekim: dis-upgrade is clean aswell.. i think that given the bt lack on real directions to the problem i'll just leave alone, ie won't report it as a bug17:56
nosrednaekimand its still not working?17:56
nosrednaekimjaguilera» ok... sounds good.17:56
djdarkmanhello, is there a way to totally restart the sound system in kubuntu?17:56
jaguileranosrednaekim: thx17:56
PhilRodok, tracked it down: it was trying to run "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient openURL %u text/html" when I'm in kde3 (although I have 4.0.1 installed too). There are two "konqueror"s listed in file associations, and the kde 4 one was at the top. Moving the kde3 one up fixes it, but that's a packaging bug. Where should I report it?17:56
hatmannosrednaekim: but no "Version update" button. I normaly use apt-get (is there a way to do the version update using it) ?17:57
nosrednaekimdjdarkman» /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart17:57
ubuntuRalesk: No, unfortunatly not. Anyway, they are going to install a multimediacentral in the house, which means switch/router later. So I shall see if there gonna be a difference. I am just curious about this situation, how Windows handles it. And oh, sorry, I forgot. I f you wait darn long time, sometimes Windows accept the connection and it works without problems. So it seems it is windows which is :D uhum bad ...17:57
nosrednaekimhatman» yeah "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"17:57
djdarkmannosrednaekim: that doesn`t work17:58
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nosrednaekimdjdarkman» try going into system settings->sound and multimedia, changing some valu, changing it back and hitting apply17:58
hatmannosrednaekim: both command tell me: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.17:58
ubuntuRalesk, nosrednaekim: thanks for your time, appreciate it. Must go now.17:59
nosrednaekimhatman» right.... replace all "fiesty" in your sources.list with "gutsy" and get rid of any non-offical repositories17:59
Raleskubuntu: heh, sweet -- well I think that once they install a capable router, it'll likely give you decent Ethernet frames on the CAT5 :)17:59
Raleskuntil then, ubuntu time :)))17:59
ubuntuRalesk: yes ;)18:00
ubuntuI hope I can migrate full time into kubuntu/ubuntu in the future. Maybe when KDE4 is more stable and Adobe Photoshop work 100% in Linux/QT, who knows.18:00
hatmannosrednaekim: I wanted to do the version update using the usual kubuntu way (GUI) because i read (from a forum) that s/fiesty/gusty/ in source.list could cause many dependencies problems, no ?18:01
ubuntucya later.18:01
Raleskuse kde3 and well, photoshop works... mostly XD18:01
nosrednaekimhatman» I don't think it can.... if you don't have any 3rd party repositories18:01
hatmanhatman: ahh okay... Hope you're right ;-)18:02
lordraydenI would like a way to simply share a folder in my kubuntu desktop 710 with my XP laptop without security risks, does anyone know a good HOWTO link?18:02
Raleskhatman: doing it with a kubuntu provided GUI does pretty much exactly the same as yourself manually replacing all feisty with gutsy :)18:02
Raleskso there should be no harm in doing it by hand18:02
hatmanRalesk: ahh okay ! I didn't know about this and i found no info about this too...18:03
Raleskjust remember to always do an apt-get update before any upgrade18:03
hatmanRalesk: yes sure ! thanks18:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smaba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:04
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.18:04
RaleskI personally always do a simple upgrade first, which will hold back software that need to install or remove things18:04
Raleskand if that ran fine, then I'll dist-upgrade18:04
RaleskI'm not sure if others agree with me on this, but it never gave me any trouble :)18:04
hatmanRalesk: you mean with the s/fesity/gubsy/ in the source.list ?18:04
Raleskyeh, open /etc/apt/sources.list in some editor (kate for example)18:05
Raleskwhich you can do by running: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list18:05
hatmanokay, will try it ! thanks to Ralesk and nosrednaekim for your tips !18:05
rpope904hey guys.. quick question.. I just installed kununtu, but the internet doesn't work.. I edited the network config file, /etc/network/*** and it just shows the loopback entry.. I am not too familiar with linux anymore, its been years.. but, I know it works, as I uninstalled slackware to install kubuntu, and it worked under slackware18:06
Raleskthen you can try to search&replace feisty with gutsy (do mind the spelling)18:06
somekoolhow do I list all packages that depends on a specific package... GTK for example ?18:06
weedarrpope904: are you conneted via a cable or wireless? What machine do you have?18:06
Arwensomekool, apt-cache rdepends18:06
Arwennote that this doesn't distinguish between recommend and depend18:06
Ralesksomekool: that, or use adept and play around in it :)  that's what I tend to do18:07
rpope904weedar: its a cable, dynamic IP.. so it'll use dhcp, and its an intel series adaptor18:07
somekooli dont like GUI tools18:07
PhilRodrpope904: have you tried with the gui tools?18:07
weedarrpope904: intel cards usually work great, have you tried using knetwormanager?18:07
rpope904I went into the system and network config, it doesnt list anything there..18:08
Ralesksomekool: well neither do I usually, I almost always use apt-get directly... but adept is very good for removing my excess packages and to search around in the installed stuff.18:08
nosrednaekimrpope904» do "sudo lshw"18:08
Arwensomekool, apt-cache isn't GUI....18:08
morslokHi, i'm trying to use soundkonverter to convert .aifs to .mp3s, is that possible?18:08
Raleskso do give it a spin, it's a lot more comfortable than playing around with apt-*18:09
rpope904i'm not logged in to it right now, had to come back into windows to get here.. what should the network file look like, the /etc/network/** and, how to I reload it once I change it?18:09
Raleskreload is sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart18:10
nosrednaekimrpope904» there should be a "auto eth0" line18:10
Raleskdhcp is I think "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in the /etc/network/interfaces file (granted your ethernet interface is eth0)18:11
rpope904yeah, there wasn't one, I am trying to find the syntax of it and add it myself18:11
rpope904I am gonna try it, if not, i'll use my laptop to get back around18:13
Raleskgood luck18:13
danaI had a filesystem failure and lost my dpkg file lists, i.e. dpkg is not able to reinstall packages due to failed removals, any recommendation I can force it ?18:20
Arwendana, recover from backups18:21
danaarwen, thanks but there are none18:22
Arwenthen go cry18:22
* dana cries ...18:23
nosrednaekimbe nice Arwen18:23
nosrednaekimdana» thats a bad problem. I'd say backup and reinstall18:23
Arwenwell, it's true...18:23
Arwensorry, patience is low due to lack of eyeglasses18:23
Roeydana:  hey, great nick18:24
Roeydana:  (my cousin's name)18:24
dananosrednaekim: nice try, i did a backup but the laptop got a broken cd rom,so i pictured it is easier to reinstall packages from net than trying to install the harddisk in a desktop somewhere...18:25
ArwenArwen: name of a Russian pr0n star18:25
astanhello. in /boot/grub/menu.lst i read "lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below. DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs".18:25
Arwendana, does dpkg still work? reinstall ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop18:25
astanwhat does this mean?18:25
Roeydana:  dana in hebrew is a female name, but I've found that in the USA, it's more unisex18:25
Arwenthen keep installing what you remember having installed18:25
nosrednaekimdana» your'e probably not going to be able to get it working perfectly if dpkg is b0rked18:26
astanwhy shouldn't i uncomment them? i mean, i want to change them.18:26
Arwendpkg == single point of failure18:26
_Enissay_i've installed my ati card driver by enabling restricted driver, but display is too slow... what's wrong?18:26
nosrednaekimastan» then sopy and paste18:26
astanand i don't get "Just edit them to you needs".. if i just edit without uncommenting, they won't be taken into effect, will they?18:26
danadpkg and the system are still working, just dpkg is unable to remove packages from the system, as it is missing the list of files it installed for this package.18:26
Arwen_Enissay_, what part of it is slow?18:26
nosrednaekim_Enissay_» are you running XGL?18:26
astannosrednaekim: copy and paste?18:27
Arwenastan, they're commented because they're not valid grub options18:27
Arwenastan, the update-grub script reads them and changes the actual options18:27
_Enissay_Arwen: everything18:27
_Enissay_nosrednaekim: yes18:27
Arwen_Enissay_, does it work without XGL?18:27
astanArwen: okay. so if i want acpi=off for all kernels, where should i edit?18:27
nosrednaekim_Enissay_» are you running compiz?18:27
Arwenastan, DEFOPTIONS iirc18:28
Arwenjust append it18:28
nosrednaekimastan» in every single kernel18:28
danaI am more looking for an option to tell dpkg to forget all it's partly knowledge of packages installed and reinstall the complete list.18:28
astanArwen: hm. i can't find any DEFOPTIONS in menu.lst to append to :718:28
_Enissay_nosrednaekim: not now, but it's better with compiz in the begining, after a while, it became slower18:29
Arwenastan, there should be a line "# defoptions="18:29
nosrednaekim_Enissay_» running XGL without compiz is going to be very slow.18:29
_Enissay_Arwen: idon't know.... how to do that18:29
Arwenum... if you know how to install XGL, you should know how to uninstall it...18:29
sourcemakermy question is off-topic... but do you know a web interface for software QA? Just a task list which have to be checked...?18:30
aharooni want to read book thats *.chm what program open this kind of books?18:30
astanArwen: ah, lowercase. thanks.18:30
ArwenI suspect you don't have 3d running, but that's difficult to detect in XGL18:30
mrunagi i messed up my partitions =(18:30
_Enissay_Arwen: right.. :)18:30
mrunagithey wont mount anymore18:30
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Arwenastan, run "update-grub" after you edit it18:30
mrunagiit says permission denied =(18:30
astanArwen: okay.. but just to be clear; so i should _not_ uncomment the # defoptions=quiet splash after having added the acpi=off? just run update-grub?18:31
nosrednaekimmrunagi» system settings->advanced->disks and partitions18:31
Arwendo not uncomment it18:31
astanArwen: okay. thanks a lot.18:31
aharooni want to read book thats *.chm what program open this kind of books?18:32
mrunagiYAY! thanks nosrednaekim that rocks18:32
mrunagii love kubuntu18:32
Arwenaharoon, there was a chmviewer app, but I don't know if it actually works18:33
mrunagiubuntu doesnt do that =)18:33
danaaharoon: that is compiled html or windows help files, check with apt-get search chm for something matching18:33
ArwenI would recommend using 7z to extract it and viewing it in Konqueror or Firefox18:33
aharoonok i'll try it18:33
ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot18:33
hagabakaapt-cache search \\bchm\\b18:33
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dipuwuts up guys18:34
_Enissay_Arwen: nosrednaekim: it seems that it's working without XGL... sorry18:35
Arwen_Enissay_, check for direct rendering - I suspect it's not actually functional.18:36
mrunagiwhat is the command issued for control alt exc18:39
nosrednaekimmrunagi» the task manager?18:39
ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot18:40
mrunagii dont have a save session18:40
danaarwen: update, i do have the dpkg.status in /var/backups and current ones in /var/lib/dpkg/status, that is i still know what is installed, but i am missing some removal scripts of the installed packages from /var/lib/dpkg/18:40
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Arwenhmm, that would be bad.18:41
ian|Hi all! Is there anything like BSD unions on Linux?18:41
Arwendana, can you force reinstall every package?18:41
danaarwen, i am trying hard but i have not found the right dashed option for dpkg yet18:43
mrunagimy drives dont sit on the desktop anymore18:43
nosrednaekimian|» unions?18:43
aharooni have ntfs partitions i can mount them by command. i installed ntfs-config and i edited fstab file but when i klik on ntfs-config icon it doesnt open nothing happened i tried to reinstall it nothing18:45
nosrednaekimaharoon» yes, you can... but I do not know how ;P18:47
aharoonit should open  a window even it couldnt mount my partitions but it doesnt open any window]18:48
markitonce installed kompozer, everytime I click a link in konqueror topic is open with konpozer instead of konqueror :( I've modified file association preferences, but seems not to work (or do I have to logogg-login again?). Any idea?18:51
danaaharoon: try to start ntfs-config from the command line, then you can see its messages18:53
tomerhi all. whats a good movie editing software for kubuntu? i need something that will allow me to take avi files from camera and edit them together to form a movie18:54
tomerthen id like to export these to a common file format18:54
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tomerok i guess ill try kino since no one has answered18:56
Arwentomer, use Cinelerra18:57
tomerwhy not kino arwen18:57
Arwenbecause Cinelerra is better18:57
markittry both, is Free software :)18:58
tomerok ill try both. thanks guys18:58
markitbtw, last time I checked, was no able to make work satisfactory any of them, but maybe is my problem18:58
aharoondana i tried it gave me message for asking about enable write support or read support18:59
mrunagicompiz and kde dont get along huh18:59
danaaharoon: can you paste the error line ?19:00
aharoonit didnt gave me errors it worked from command but from kmenu it didnt19:00
markitis there a channel dedicated to Hardy? last kernel gives me a lot of troubles19:01
jinzougenHey, I just installed kubuntu and I tried to build aterm and gcc failed to find crt1.o...19:02
jinzougenAnyone can help me out.19:02
jinzougenA quick google search leads me to believe it has something to do with the fact that I have an amd64 processor.19:02
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stdinjinzougen: install build-essential ?19:04
jinzougenwhere do I get that?19:04
danajinzougen: apt-get install build-essentials19:05
danaaharoon: did you answer something on the commandline to make itwork?19:05
jinzougenCool thanks, let's see if this helps.19:06
jinzougenbtw why didn't "build-essential" show up in adept19:06
stdinshould do, it's in main and on the install CD19:07
aharoonit just asked me to use sudo idid it worked in kmenu it doesnt respond anyway19:07
jinzougenbeautiful it worked. Thanks a lot.19:07
aharoondana  it just asked me to use sudo idid it worked in kmenu it doesnt respond anyway19:08
dale_hi all, this is probably a stupid question but what is the command to start kde or xfce from the command line.19:08
danaaharoon: check the icons settingsinkmenu, it should have kdesu in front of the command19:10
aharoonok i'll se19:10
Lynouredale_: which one? /etc/init.d/kdm start   ought to work for kde19:10
rjuneI'm having a problem with k3b and my cdrom burner, k3b says cdrecord has no permissions to the device.19:10
rjunethis isn't quite a stock install, but it's all from the stock repos19:10
aharoondana gksu ntfs-config19:10
michael_aadamk: the menu problem continues but i noticed it only happens in kde programs, ie. firefox doesnt do that19:11
* Signil is back.19:12
DexterFwnated to install krita from feisty-backports. aptitude wants to get 137MB of upgrades now, including dosbox and git-core amongst others.19:13
DexterFwhy deos it want to upgrade dosbox when I want to up the painter app krita..?19:13
aharoondana i changed it and worked thanks for hlping19:14
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danaaharoon: cheers19:18
aharoonanother question about azureus please could i?19:19
aharoondana another question about azureus please could i?19:20
vzduch!ask | aharoon19:21
ubotuaharoon: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)19:21
aharoondana i opened azureus first time it worked ok but in second time i found some buttons looks weired its loooks like chineese word and other looks fine english words i dont know why i dont use any chineese language and i installed azureus in english language why it do like this?19:24
danaaharoon: you are welcome19:24
danaaharoon: try "LANG=en_US.UTF-8 azureus" on the command line19:31
aharoondana sudo: LANG=en_US.UTF-8: command not found19:33
Raleskwhy are you sudoing?19:33
danaArwen: any ideas on reinstalling kubuntu from inside a running kubuntu, as I only have a working DVD attached to the USB port ?19:34
danai.e. no chance on booting from CD19:34
aharoondana: ok the command worked without sudo nut it didnt change anything19:35
danaaharoon: try to figure out the preferences screen in azureus, sorry i do not know azureus myself19:37
Raleskyeah, I was about to suggest that19:37
aharoonok nevr mind19:37
Raleskaharoon: another thing you could do is use ktorrent19:37
rockprincesshi all! quick question.....where do I put .mo files for kde4 ?! is it the same directory as kde3?19:38
Raleskthough that's really just avoiding the problem rather than solving it, heh :)19:38
danaanyone knows how to install from an external dvd drive attached via usb, when the bios does not support that ?19:38
aharoonthe proplem is i cannt read it in that way its unreadable and ktorrnt doesnt work as speed as i want i tried to config it but no chanse azureus work speed  goof19:39
danathough i have a running kubuntu on harddisk19:39
jpatrickrockprincess: one sec19:39
marcelhow to configure the runlevel? I want my system to start in runlevel 3 which means without X11 support?19:40
danamarcel: pass init=3 to the kernel on boot19:40
ere4sidana: this might help - http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html19:41
marceldana: is there a way to put this in a config file?19:41
danaere4si: thanks will read it19:41
danamarcel: check /boot/grub/menu.lst19:41
marceldana: thanks for your help!19:42
JoshOvkihi guys, just a quick question, if i have 2 linux o/s installed say   kubuntu + debian (for instantace) would it be possible for them to use the same swap file?19:42
Arwendana, before you could reinstall from within Kubuntu, you'd need a functional dpkg setup19:42
ArwenJoshOvki, yes. Just don't hibernate19:43
JoshOvkiArwen: Thank you for the confirmation, i dont hibernate anyway.19:43
JoshOvkithanks again, bye :)19:44
jpatrickrockprincess: /usr/share/locale19:44
nuxilmarcel, if its just X you want. you can just chomd -x /etc/init.d/kdm19:44
nuxil*dont want19:44
bertvdphi, I have just installed kubuntu from the kde4 liveCD, is it not meant for installing or something cause it's acting really strange19:46
danaArwen: well my dpkg binary still works, /var/lib/dpkg/info seems to be mostly empty and perl5.8 has problems...19:47
danaere4si: lubi looks nice, i will try smb image as it worked on earlier boot problems, though i do not know if it can boot usb-drives as well ?19:49
bertvdpsorry, can anyone here help me with the kde4 problem I just posted ?19:53
danabertvdp: can you give more details ?19:54
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bertvdpso I installed from the kubuntu 7.10 kde4 liveCD, and I couldn't get it to update (no package manager???) so I just did a sudo apt-get upgrade, then I tried to do some system administration stuff, but it doesn't accept my password and also the loginscreen looks a bit stretched19:56
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mrunagiwhat is the command line equivelant of ctrl alt esc20:01
danabertvdp: use your normal user password for system administration20:03
bertvdpit says my password is not right20:04
shadowflierI have a simmilar problem I cant install anithing20:04
shadowflierand I dont know what other administative acount besidedes the only one there is20:04
bertvdpI typ the password for the user 'bert' and it takes a lot of time before it answers and then says that it's wrong20:04
danabertvdp: do you have multiple users ?20:04
bertvdpdana, no, a clean installation20:04
shadowfliersame here20:04
danabertvdp: did you do sudo apt-get update before the upgrade you mentioned?20:05
bertvdpyeah off course20:05
mrunagiwhat is the command line equivelant of ctrl alt esc20:05
danabertvdp: no problem with password then ?20:06
bertvdpI can use sudo20:06
bertvdpbut the graphical frontend of kde messes it up20:06
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bertvdpmrunagi, what does ctrl alt esc do ? :P20:07
danabertvdp: did you try 'kdesu adept' or something similar ?20:08
bertvdpnot yet, give me 2 sec.20:09
mrunagigives you a cursor to select a window to kill bertvdp20:09
bertvdpthat works, but I get an other screen then I usually get20:10
bertvdpmrunagi, you kill stuff using "sudo kill [PID nr]"20:10
shadowflierI am trying to install gimp from sudo apt-get install gimp but it gives me a message "E: Couldn't find package gimp" why?20:10
mrunagiif i knew the pid id love to use that but i dont which is why im asking about ctrl alt esc20:11
mrunagi!info gimp20:11
ubotugimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu0.7.10.1 (gutsy), package size 3805 kB, installed size 10488 kB20:11
mrunagidunno shadowflier20:11
markithi, how can I install an older version of the kernel, since does not appear anymore in the repo?20:11
bertvdpshadowflier, you don't have your entire repository I think, try sudo apt-get upgrade and otherwise edit sources.list20:11
shadowflierit does it with all the packages I am trying to get :(20:11
shadowflierI did the update no change20:12
Arwendo another 'apt-get update'?20:12
Arwenor not20:12
bertvdp*update sorrty20:12
mrunagii hate how compiz takes over my shortcuts20:12
Arwenshadowflier, take a look at your sources.list20:12
bertvdpmrunagi, you can search on shortcuts and then disable them20:12
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mrunagiwhat do you mean bertvdp20:12
shadowflieryah thanks, the update gave me a new message this time, no admin privileges :(20:12
SSJ_GZmrunagi: xkill, maybe?20:13
mrunagiah ty it is xkill\20:13
bertvdpmrunagi, in ccsm, if you do an advanced search you can search on values (aka shortcuts), and then just search for the beginning of your shortcut, and then change it20:14
bertvdpArwen, dana, still don't have an idea why things are going wrong ?20:14
shadowflierarwen how do I look at the source list, where is ti? (I am new)20:15
bertvdpshadowflier, ow you are new, sorry20:15
bertvdpshadowflier: do you know how to use a terminal ?20:15
bertvdpdo you know how you can edit files from the command line ?20:16
shadowflierlike text files with vim yah, other no20:16
mrunagisudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list shadowflier20:16
bertvdpthat was what I was going to say :p20:16
mrunagisudo kdesudo whatever20:17
mrunagiinteresting i added xkill as command 0 but it wont execute20:18
jpatrick!kdesudo | mrunagi20:18
ubotumrunagi: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)20:18
danaere4si: ok, will try to boot lubi ... cu@all20:19
bertvdpokey, I have found one of the problems20:19
ere4siluck to you dana20:19
bertvdpkpackage doesn't work without smartpm and that's not installed by default20:19
thewhitepelicandoes anyone here use both kde 3.5 and kde 4.0?20:19
shadowflierI need to install that one too20:20
TimSDoes gimp have a print option?20:21
TimSI cant find it20:21
danaere4si: did you try it once ? i did not succeed in installing it into grub ..20:23
ere4sidana: never tried it - saw it recommended once20:24
erbanA TUTTI20:33
erbanI'M NEW20:34
vzduch!medibuntu > vzduch20:34
vzduch!caps | erban20:35
ubotuerban: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.20:35
nosrednaekim!caps | erban20:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:36
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jpatrick!it | erban20:42
ubotuerban: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:42
jpatrickno0tic: ^20:42
erbane come si fa20:42
erbanad andarci20:42
jpatrickerban: /join #ubuntu-it20:43
no0ticjpatrick, thanks20:46
jpatrickno0tic: did he make it?20:47
roomulohello, there..20:47
no0ticjpatrick, yes, thanks20:47
roomuloafter the last update of kubuntu (gutsy)20:47
roomulothe xine returns this error when i try to play rmvb files:20:48
roomulo"A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so"20:48
roomulothe w32codecs package is installed20:48
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roomulocan anybody help me?20:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:50
jussi01!find cook.so20:51
ubotuPackage/file cook.so does not exist in gutsy20:51
jussi01roomulo: try reinstallingte w32codecs20:52
roomuloi've tried =/20:52
temsxcan I get help?20:53
roomuloi guess i'll try to reinstall the xine20:53
wightstrakerAny idea why a splash screen would stall startup?20:54
wightstrakerI had to disable it in grub20:55
free1I'm thinking that kde4 is looking sweet20:56
free1but is trying to install kubuntu on my machine going to brick it?20:56
free1The last kubuntu install I tried... nothing worked20:57
* Signil is away: Gone away for now.20:57
free1I heard that20:57
stdin!away > Signil20:58
free1make it do what it do20:58
MrJigsawAnyone in here knows anything about unnotek VirtualBox' ?20:59
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:59
MrJigsawOkay.. so do anyone know how to get into my PC when im in the virtual box? like a key to change it or something ? :|21:00
MrJigsawchange back to linux from the XP vbox21:00
tekstacyI'm having trouble mounting an external ntfs drive.21:00
tekstacyI get the error hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100021:01
tekstacyWhat's gives?21:01
MrJigsawYou need to mount the drive tekstacy :-)21:01
tekstacyMrJigsaw, Left CTRL + Right mouse21:01
snarksterI was trying to get starcraft to work and keep getting cant set screen from 32 to 8 BPP how do i change that?21:01
lordraydenhi, what decent replacement 4 XP dc++ exists in kubuntu?21:02
tekstacyYeah, I get that error when I try to mount it21:02
lordraydenlinuxdcpp seems odd21:02
LynoureMrJigsaw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476568 mentions one or two potential ways, cannot test them for you now21:02
MrJigsawright ctrl + right mouse works :D21:03
lordraydenget a hammer ;)21:03
tekstacyright ctrl + L is cool too, it integrates them both21:03
lordraydenhey, is there any dc++ client in kubuntu besides linuxdcpp?21:05
lordraydenor in linux?21:05
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.21:05
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swattohi all, is it possible to get rid of the main panel with the KDE menu buttons on etc - and just have the buttons floating on the desktop?21:06
lordraydentransparent panel?!?21:06
lordraydenor 3d desktop?21:07
swattohmm i dont know?21:07
swattojust wondering if it is possible and if so how to do it21:07
lordraydenset panel transparency as u like, but the buttons stay, not float :)21:08
hydrogenit is in kde421:08
hydrogennot in kde321:08
swattocan i install kde 4 or will that muck with my compiz etc?21:10
lordraydenyeap, I remember now...21:10
lordraydenkinda like vista toolbar21:10
aharoonhow to show my  ip???21:10
aharoonthanks i was using ipconfig21:11
lordraydennot ipconfig21:12
aharoonok thx21:12
BluesKaj!it | erban21:13
ubotuerban: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!21:13
hydrogen!yell | erban21:15
ubotuerban: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.21:15
hydrogenor not!21:15
jpatrickhydrogen: he's muted so don't worry21:15
hydrogenoh.. nice21:16
hydrogen100second ping21:16
swattoanyone know how i can install kde 421:16
lordraydenyall *buntu users, only use wine+dc++? isn't it any native dc++ client?21:16
jpatrick!kde4 > swatto21:17
swattothanks :)21:17
jpatricklordrayden: KDE4 help in #kubuntu-kde4 tho :)21:18
mrunagiwhat does kde stand for21:19
jussi01Kdesktop environment21:20
regeyak desktop environment (used to be 'kool')21:20
lordraydenida no, I picked it over gnome koz i feel better with it, try both, pick what u like21:20
lordraydendoes wine and dc++ work out of the box? ;)21:22
lordraydenor do i have to sweat?21:23
danaerban: ciao, which soundcard model do you have a problem with ?21:23
danalordrayden: what is dc++ used for ?21:23
lordraydenp2p file transfer21:23
lordraydendirect connection sort of21:24
danalordrayden: what protocoll does it use ?21:24
lordraydentcp 41121:25
RaleskDC++ is some IRC-like something, but that's about all I know of it21:25
RaleskI never liked it myself, because most hubs required me to already have like 5G+ of shared data...  so I said screw them :P21:25
danaRalesk: i recall that even napster had some IRC like chat built in...21:25
Raleskand this was when all I had was a 6.4G drive21:25
Ralesktrue -- in any case, it's a completely unrelated network to napster, ed2k and winmx (and torrent)21:27
BluesKajRalesk, are you talking about DCC file transfer ?21:28
Ralesklordrayden: you might want to try to install linuxdcpp21:28
lordraydennapster? dont awake the dead :)21:28
RaleskBluesKaj: I'm talking about DC++21:28
BluesKajoh yeah , that lame thing21:28
lordraydentnx, but no, I cant search or download with it, it's bad21:29
Raleskaccording to adept, there's nothing else in the repository.21:29
lordraydenas a matter in fact 2morrow ill get rid of it if it dont work21:29
Raleskso the only other thing I can suggest is to google.21:29
Raleskif you really want p2p and good searching capabilities, go iwht torrent and ed2k...21:30
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danalordrayden: try dcgui or rccp respectively21:30
lordraydenwill do21:30
* dana is going for another reboot ...21:31
lordraydenapt-get or google the deb? or source? what did u find?21:31
lordraydenhappy reboot dana :)21:31
danalordrayden: apt-get install dcgui rccp21:31
Ralesklordrayden: now I searched for direct connect and it brought up the programs dana mentioned, but also "valknut" -- which is a qt/kde frontend for DC21:32
Raleskso for kubuntu, you might want to try that21:32
Ralesksudo apt-get install valknut21:32
lordraydentried, no good, very korky interface, ... it's bad valknut21:33
Raleskah, okay21:34
lordraydenhiya root21:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:34
root_______vayan a mamar todos21:34
mrdigitalis the Linksys WPC11 Wifi card compat with kubuntu?21:34
Flare183mrdigital: yeap21:34
jussi01!hardware | mrdigital21:34
ubotumrdigital: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection21:34
Flare183mrdigital: i know i'm using it right now21:34
mrdigitalhow do i install it/21:35
* dana re21:35
Flare183mrdigital: it uses a broadcom firmware21:35
jpatricknabend dana21:35
bj_I am newbie here    How do I get this to work??  Anyone help me out?21:35
Flare183bj_: what to work?21:36
mrdigitalFlare183: dont help21:36
jussi01bj_: what to work?21:36
danajpatrick: moin =)21:36
bj_getting files or listings??21:36
lordraydenhow do I register on this channel?21:36
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Flare183!register | lordrayden21:36
ubotulordrayden: please see above21:36
Flare183oops sorry21:36
jpatrickFlare183: don't worry21:36
Raleskwow, ubotu is smart :)21:36
Raleskno unnecessary repeating, hehe21:36
Flare183ubotu is a bot21:37
ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.21:37
RaleskFlare183: I know21:37
Raleskoh :D21:37
Ralesknice answer :D21:37
Flare183mrdigital: ok now you need two file21:37
dana!ask | bj_21:37
ubotubj_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)21:37
Flare183mrdigital: here you go21:38
Flare183mrdigital: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b4321:38
Flare183oops files*21:38
jpatrickubotu lies21:38
ubotuMostly just statistics, but yeah.21:38
ghostcubehey guys21:40
ghostcubecomiong directly from kde and asking here is there any fix for kde 3.5.x adminsession bug in kcontrol ?ß21:40
ghostcubekcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kdm'21:41
ghostcubethis one21:41
ghostcubefor example21:42
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jpatrickfermio91: with /join this time21:46
martijn81anyone been able to compile kget with the new torrent plugin21:46
fermio91Sorry patrick21:47
martijn81i get a weird cmake error21:49
jpatrick!paste | martijn8121:49
ubotumartijn81: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:49
bis0nHi, there's a setting in KDE to put application menu bar at top of screen. Where is it located in config files?21:50
NickPrestabis0n, right click on your desktop > Configure Desktop > Behavior tab > Menu Bar at Top of Screen21:52
ghostcubeany ideas about the bug ?? it spread out about 2 weeks by apt-get21:53
bis0nNickPresta, I don't have full KDE at the moment but I have several KDE apps... Though someone would help with the setting in config files....21:57
NickPrestabis0n, ah okay. I don't know where you would set this setting directly. Sorry.21:58
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Gun_Monkey#join wor-room22:00
bis0nNickPresta, do you know if Qt-only applications support that setting?22:01
ubuntu"hello again"22:01
Gun_MonkeyIf ebgames/gamestop would actually sell PC games OTHER than the sims/wow/$9 budget games, then maybe people would buy them22:01
ubuntui got a problem22:01
BluesKajGun_Monkey, it's prolly  /join #wor-room22:02
Gun_Monkeythat was a big mispost22:02
Lynoureubuntu: More detail helps.22:02
ubuntui just want to mount an usb-fish with the bash and it does't work22:02
ubuntuany idea??22:02
BluesKajGun_Monkey, or is it #war-room ?22:04
Lynoureubuntu: I've heard of usb fish tanks, just had no idea they'd even have something to mount...22:04
aleksanteriubuntu, mounting as root?22:04
Schuenemannhey, what is the driver for those who have an intel onboard video card?22:05
Schuenemannmy xorg.cong says "intel", but I don't think that's right. IIRC, I had something like i81022:05
ubuntusure mounting as root22:06
ghostcubeoh no22:06
Schuenemannghostcube, intel?22:06
aleksanterighostcube, ?22:06
ghostcubesorry wrong tab lol22:06
aleksanteriubuntu, hmmm. try $(sudo fdisk -l)22:06
BluesKajSchuenemann, try: cat /proc/asound/cards22:06
aleksanteri(without the $() of course)22:06
holasameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?22:06
ghostcubeintel card is intel driver22:07
SchuenemannBluesKaj, is that sound or video?22:07
ubuntuok i see that must be explaint22:07
ghostcubeSchuenemann: what are u trying to do22:07
ubuntui have a distribution known as knoppicillin22:08
Schuenemannconfigure video card22:08
SchuenemannBluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57128/22:08
ubuntuit based on knoppix22:08
ghostcubeSchuenemann: for 3d22:08
BluesKajsorry Schuenemann, lspci | grep VGA22:08
holasameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?22:08
Schuenemannghostcube, for everything22:08
ubuntuand here i need to mount an usb-drive22:08
BluesKaj!patience | hola22:08
ubotuhola: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines22:08
SchuenemannBluesKaj, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)22:08
Lynoureubuntu: so you are not at all on Kubuntu?22:09
ghostcubeSchuenemann: hmm ok so intel is ure driver22:09
ubuntuand thats the problem22:10
SchuenemannBluesKaj, anything interesting there?22:10
BluesKajSchuenemann, then look for the Intel 82845G/GL video driver22:10
ghostcubeehm guys the driver he needs is intel driver22:11
BluesKajSchuenemann, it should be on their site22:11
ghostcubeso what are u discussing22:11
ghostcubeonly set in xorg.conf intel22:11
Z3U5hi ppl new here can i get some with kubuntu installation please?22:11
Z3U5hi ppl new here can i get some help with kubuntu installation please?22:11
ubuntui tried to: modprobe usbcore;modprobe usb-store22:12
SchuenemannBluesKaj, like tis? http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=884422:12
LynoureZ3U5: yes, probably, just ask?22:12
ubuntuand then i used usb-uhci and it failed22:12
ghostcubeok guys im back to compiz fusion support lol cu22:12
BluesKajThe Intel driver support site , Schuenemann22:12
ubuntuso i tried usb-ohci and again it failed22:12
ubuntumkdir /mnt/usb-drive22:13
Z3U5ok, just downloaded gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd went almost through the install when it got stuck at 89% while removing programs for like 45 mins22:13
prince_jammysSchuenemann: you shouldn't have to download drivers22:14
prince_jammysSchuenemann: i think your card is supported with the driver "i810"22:14
ubuntumount  -o unmask=000 -t vfat /dev/da /mnt/usb-drive22:14
Lynoureubuntu: sorry, don't know anything specific on knoppicillin, all those should load normally in kubuntu. But that would be uhci_hcd, so do check the name of the module...22:15
Schuenemannprince_jammys, I remember I was using that driver, but now it says "intel"22:15
ubuntuhere: vfat is not supported fs22:15
SchuenemannI'll change that and try22:15
piquadratHi. I have a little problem with access rights. I had two partitions (/home and /data), which I wanted to put together. I copied everything to a external HD with "cp -aR", deleted the two partitions, created a new one, formated it (ext3), adjusted /etc/fstab with the new UUID of the volume, copied everything back and chowned everything to my username. Nevertheless, as normal user, I can't access anything on the newly created partition. I22:16
piquadratcan access it as root without problem22:16
ubuntubut to load it you must type modprobe usb-uhci22:16
prince_jammyspiquadrat: can you paste the fstab line?22:16
piquadratprince_jammys: UUID=5b600ccd-7940-455d-aa7e-e2c017fa07ee /home ext3 user_xattr,defaults,noatime,nodiratime  0 222:17
ubuntucould you tell me how to mount usb device with ther bash22:17
Lynoureubuntu: your command looked fine, assuming you were root.22:18
swattoanyone know how i can start KDE 4 - i cant get the login window anymore if i logout it goes straight to console and i can only start KDE 3.522:18
holaBluesKaj: ok you have right......do you know in which channel can i ask for to configure webcam?22:18
ubuntunot really my friend i just read out of magazine22:20
Schuenemannprince_jammys, still having trouble when I switch from full screen to windowed22:20
Schuenemannthe image freezes and is distorted for some time22:20
Z3U5can someone plz help, i just installed mirc so i could get help with kubuntu22:21
Lynoureubuntu: ? I guess your magazine didn't have vfat support, then =)22:21
ubuntuno jokes at all, pls22:21
prince_jammysSchuenemann: i came in late, so i don't know your problem.  but when i saw i card i remember that i had installed ubuntu on another computer with that card using i810.  i don't know the solution, but i think downloading the drivers from the web can just make a bigger mess22:21
BluesKajhola, I don't know, sorry :(22:21
martijn81we really need a wiki page for computers that do not install perfectly with (x/k)ubuntu22:22
ubuntuthey discribe a different way22:22
holaBluesKaj: ok22:22
Lynoureubuntu: oh, I thought your comment was a reply to mine. nevermind.22:22
prince_jammysSchuenemann: did it ever work properly?22:22
Schuenemannnot on gutsy, prince_jammys22:22
Schuenemannbut on feisty, yes22:22
BluesKajprince_jammys, Schuenemann ,is there a default Intel restricted driver in system settings/advanced ?22:23
ubuntui have got a laptop and there you have to have a second cdrom22:23
SchuenemannBluesKaj, how do I know?22:23
ubuntuthats the problem22:23
prince_jammysSchuenemann: and what you've been doing is editing /etc/xorg.conf?22:23
BluesKajSchuenemann, system settings/advanced22:23
SchuenemannBluesKaj, well, it said my system doesn't require any22:23
ubuntuso i want to copy the image to the usb-device22:23
Schuenemannprince_jammys, I just did that22:23
SchuenemannBluesKaj, my hardware, actually22:24
prince_jammysSchuenemann: have you tried ::   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg22:24
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.22:24
Schuenemannprince_jammys, isn't it that command that resets everything?22:24
prince_jammysSchuenemann: yes22:24
Schuenemannhmmm... no. Should I?22:25
BluesKajno Schuenemann it's default driver included in the install , you have to enable it in admin mode ...if it's available22:25
ubuntu( - looking for help :( - )22:25
Lynoureubuntu: I think I'll pass... not familiar with the distro you said you are on (knoppicillin), and it's quite late.22:25
prince_jammysSchuenemann: if you do, back up your current xorg.conf so you can revert22:25
SchuenemannBluesKaj, there's nothing available in that window... I just got an alert box saying that =/22:26
Schuenemannprince_jammys, ok22:26
prince_jammysSchuenemann: i remember one time while i was installing beryl with that card, i ended up copying someone else's from the internet.  (i googled ubuntu xorg.conf and the card name ) :)22:26
Aranelmy friend said when he tries to install amarok, this message appears: "ubuntu etiketli cd yi takıp entere basın" means : "Mount the cd labelled ubuntu and press enter"22:27
ubuntuwhats the normal shell command to mount an usb-device??22:27
prince_jammysSchuenemann: just remember to backup the file to prevent further headache22:27
Aranelwhats this and how can he install applications without cd ?22:27
Schuenemannok, thanks22:27
SchuenemannBluesKaj, what was that command to see the card model? lspci | grep what?22:28
Lynoureubuntu: normally they automount under kubuntu...  if they don't, sudo mount -t filesystemtype device mountmount  ought to work.22:28
Schuenemannlspci | grep vga? doesn't output anything22:29
prince_jammyspiquadrat: i'm not familiar with the usr_xattr option.  i was just looking at a tutorial online where the sample fstab is /dev/hda7 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 222:29
BluesKajAranel, alt+F2 ,kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then put a # in front he line with the cdrom as a deb source ..most likely it's the first line22:29
Aranelthanks for information BluesKaj :)22:29
Aranelxorg.conf ? its interesting.22:30
BluesKajAranel, i hope you find the right line22:30
prince_jammysSchuenemann: do VGA or grep -i for case insensitive22:30
Araneli hope too :)22:30
prince_jammysSchuenemann: that's why it didn't output anything22:31
Schuenemann00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)22:31
Schuenemannyeah, thanks22:31
BluesKajAranel, you can post the text of the xorgfile in pastebin and i'll tell exactly which one it is .22:31
ubuntusudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda/ /[place.to.mount]22:31
ubuntuis that right??22:31
ubuntuor any mistake??22:31
prince_jammysubuntu it seems you're missing a number sda2 sdaX22:31
Lynoureubuntu: well, depends on whether that's the type, device and mount point, but yeah.22:32
prince_jammysi could be wrong on that22:32
Oloughlin75prince_jammys: you are right :)22:32
AranelBluesKaj: ok, if i need i'll send a message to you. thanks :)22:32
prince_jammysubuntu:  do sudo fdisk -l    and see the /dev/sdaX  marked "vfat"22:33
ubuntuso you are thinking there is just the number missing??22:33
Oloughlin75ubuntu: you need to specify which partition on the drive to mount22:33
BluesKajok Aranel ,very good22:35
ubuntuthere is just one partition22:35
Schuenemannprince_jammys, something that I noted with gutsy is that the monitor center differs from windoze, making me adjust the monitor settings all the time I switch OS22:35
Oloughlin75ubuntu: sda1 then22:35
ubuntuis it nassasary?22:35
Oloughlin75ubuntu: yes22:35
Z3U5can anyone help plz with kubuntu installation problem22:35
hydrogen!ask | Z3U522:36
ubotuZ3U5: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)22:36
prince_jammysubuntu do :::   sudo fdisk -l    and look for the line with FAT3222:36
ubuntui formated it under windows to fat3222:36
Z3U5installed gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd the install got stuck at 89% while removing programs22:37
prince_jammysSchuenemann: does it actually work properly now?22:37
Schuenemannprince_jammys, nope... I have to adjust all the time22:37
Schuenemannoh wait, I haven't tried after changing the driver22:38
AranelBluesKaj: http://sudrap.org/paste/1824/22:38
Z3U5installed gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd the install got stuck at 89% while removing programs for 45 mins didnt move after that22:38
Schuenemannprince_jammys, prince_jammys, do you know if that driver supports resolutions greater than 1024x768?22:38
Oloughlin75Schuenemann: it should22:38
Oloughlin75Schuenemann: can your screen?22:39
SchuenemannOloughlin75, oops, I meant that video card, not driver22:39
Oloughlin75Schuenemann: most cards newer than say 10 years can22:39
prince_jammysSchuenemann: the card should, but i don't know about the driver22:39
SchuenemannOloughlin75, well, the monitor is old, but I see that option in xorg.conf but now in systemsettings22:39
Schuenemannsubsection display has Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480"22:40
prince_jammysSchuenemann: i remember it maxed out at 1024x768  on the installation i was telling you about.  other than that, it worked properly22:40
stashi all22:40
LynoureZ3U5: Can you remind me what happens before that step?22:40
ubuntuspecil device /dev/sda does not exist22:40
prince_jammysSchuenemann: the other thing you want to look into is the specs of your monitor and adjust your xorg.conf22:40
* regeya needs to tweak his settings; 1024x768 seems to be his current max as well22:40
stascan someone help me plz?? im new in kubuntu :(22:41
prince_jammysubuntu:    sudo fdisk -l22:41
martijn81stas: just shoot22:41
Z3U5nothing it just got stuck the comp did not habg or anything likethat22:41
prince_jammysSchuenemann: i did it all by copying other people's off the internet22:41
AranelBluesKaj: solved. thanks :)22:42
Schuenemannprince_jammys, how many attempts?22:42
Z3U5nothing it just got stuck the comp did not hang or anything likethat22:42
prince_jammysSchuenemann: you don't want to know ... but that was mostly because of beryl22:42
LynoureZ3U5: What was the step before that? What did it do? I don't have an installer in mid-run here, so 89% does not tell me much22:42
prince_jammysSchuenemann: actually that was only because of beryl22:42
Z3U5Lynour: enothing it just got stuck the comp did not hang or anything like that22:42
stasmart, mayb u has a minute time to help me? :)22:42
Schuenemannprince_jammys, dammit heh22:42
* regeya is using compiz with an ooooold radeon 7000ve and the only thing that doesn't work well is openarena22:43
Schuenemannprince_jammys, you should've kept the file22:43
regeyawell that and I don't get 3d windows with the cube view, but aside from that...22:43
Z3U5Lynoure: well it was while removing programs22:43
LynoureZ3U5: that was the exact text it gave?22:43
holasameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?22:44
stashm... i have a really stupid problem, hat can be easyly solved by everyone who knows kubuntu well...22:44
ubuntuhow i have to type the command with sudo fdisk -l?22:44
regeyawhat's UbuntuStats22:44
regeyaor what was22:44
Z3U5Lynoure: removing programs and was at 89%22:44
Lynourestas: gah, just ask :)22:44
prince_jammysubuntu:  type it in the terminal and paste the line that says FAT3222:44
ubuntui typed: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda22:44
martijn81ubuntu: hit alt+F2 and  type konsole, then paste what you want22:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntustats - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:45
prince_jammysubuntu   no   only   "sudo fdisk -l"   nothing else22:45
Lynourestas: don't ask people to commit to trying to mindread you, asking is so much easier for all.22:45
martijn81stas: sure, just ask, someone will know22:45
staswell, i was having a problem with adept (it was blocked by other programs) so i typed in a command i found in a forum and i dont know what it done, but now my adept works again, but doesnt show already installed packeges :( i have to do something like a scan for installed software, but dont know how...22:46
stascause im a window$ user i dont know how to hande ubuntu (especcialy with command lines) :(22:48
LynoureZ3U5: Sorry, I could not find a likely cause now... must be too tired :/22:48
ubuntui am going sick, it does not work :(22:49
Z3U5Lynoure: does that make sense? can i make it anymore clear22:49
prince_jammysubuntu what happened when you typed "sudo fdisk -l"22:49
ubuntui am already root@ubuntu22:50
LynoureZ3U5: if I understood right, you were doing 1st ever install of kubuntu gutsy, on 64bit system with amd64 image and it got stuck late in the install with text "removing programs"?22:50
prince_jammysubuntu: ok what happens when you type "fdisk -l"22:50
ubuntuUser ubuntu may run the following commands on this host:22:50
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prince_jammysubuntu  are you on a live cd?22:51
ubuntuthats right22:51
Z3U5Lynoure: ok the install went fine copying files,..., scanning CD ROM,.... then reached removing (unwanted) programs thats when it got stuck22:51
regeyay'know, I just want to point out that ubuntu's sudo settings spoiled me.  I had to set up a debian box at work with the default sudo settings :->22:52
stasnoone knows a solution? :( this should really be not a big thing i thought... Oo22:52
martijn81stas: that is a strange problem, what command did you use?22:52
ubuntuand also @knoppicillin, but it was written that it is possible22:52
Z3U5Lynoure: yes first ever is correct22:52
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:53
LynoureZ3U5: What could possibly help is the exact text of the step it got stuck with, but it's 1am, someone else might help you better now.22:53
prince_jammysstas: you have all the check boxed checked, right? (show installed, etc)  just verifying22:53
ArmakidonHow install compiz on kde ?22:53
stasmartijn81: i dont know anymore :( sorry, its really stupid i know ^^ i was something described wth "...rebuilding your databse..."22:53
martijn81Armakidon: best to ask that in #compiz-fusion22:54
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stasprince_jammys: well, thats the problem. for example i have amarok installed, but the package manager says amarok isnt installed, its not checked and i can check it then22:54
Z3U5Lynoure: can you tell me how to set up an internet conncetion on kubuntu22:54
swattoohh my xorg.conf files is messed up and KDM wont start :( - would someone have a look at it for me22:55
sepeckhmmm... cleared cache... why won;t it show...22:55
sepeckwrong window22:55
prince_jammys!aptfix | stas: try closing adept and running the following command, and then reopening.22:55
ubotustas: try closing adept and running the following command, and then reopening.: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:55
ubuntui am tiered that this is a problem, because the rest to mount a virtual drive an a boot-cd that works22:55
LynoureZ3U5: depends on the exact nature of your problem, I don't do ndiswrapper stuff. But someone on the channel probably does.22:56
ubuntuthere is just the problem of burning the cd22:56
stasubotu: ok, ill try right now...22:56
stasprince_jammys: ok,ill try22:56
Z3U5Lynoure: thanks anyways22:56
ubuntuor puting the image to a usb-drive22:57
prince_jammysubuntu so "fdisk -l" doesn't give you any output?22:57
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stasprince_jammys: hey :D lloks like it works. amarok and bluetooth obex client is now shown as installed... and many other apps as well23:00
Lynoureubuntu: weird...  that's the output of   sudo -l  , not normally of   sudo fdisk -l23:00
prince_jammysstas: good23:00
stasprince_jammys: thanks you very much :)23:00
ubuntubut were is the mistake?23:01
Lynoureubuntu: What exactly did you type? :)23:01
ubuntuor better where is the solution23:01
prince_jammysubuntu that's what i'm trying to find out.  if we only knew what the device is, you could mount it23:01
Z3U5can someone plz help in setting up internet connection on kubuntu, never done that b4 so i dont know how, but when i do ifconfig the only ip i could see was, in windows the connection settings are as follows gateway, ip and also dont know where to put the dns ip, i tried to do it through network settings but guess im going wrong somewhere23:01
prince_jammysubuntu:  are you on a console or a GUI?23:02
ubuntui tried different23:02
ubuntui have to work on a console23:02
stasprince_jammys: only one more lil question: if i want install new software from the internet and check the box of that app it takes like 3 minutes untill the window moves again (the notebook is loading something all the time), is this normal?23:02
LynoureZ3U5: dns goes into  /etc/resolv.conf23:02
ubuntucause knoppicillin just have a console23:02
prince_jammysstas: when you say from the internet you mean from adept?23:03
ubuntuan the midnightcommander23:03
ubuntuthats all23:03
Z3U5Lynoure: is there a way to do all this inGUI23:03
LynoureZ3U5: if you pastebin your current /etc/network/interfaces  I can modify it to have those settings...23:03
stasi think so. well, its software that is not on the kubuntu dvd, so i think it comes from the internet23:03
prince_jammysbut you are booted from a ubuntu live cd?23:03
stasprince_jammys: i think so. well, its software that is not on the kubuntu dvd, so i think it comes from the internet23:04
LynoureZ3U5: probably, but I'm much more of a commandline person, done it hundreds of time on command line, maybe once ever on gui.23:04
ubuntuin this case: yes. but not when i to prepare the burning23:04
prince_jammysstas: adept takes forever for me also, when listing all the packages.23:04
ubuntuthis is just a virtual machine23:04
* prince_jammys is confused23:05
stasprince_jammys: ok then. i only wonder cause i use kubuntu for first time, and its funny ^^ think will use it in the future as well. and thx for your help :) good n823:05
Z3U5Lynoure: my kubuntu installation did not complete as you know so wont be able to provide /etc/network/interfaces, if i gave you details can you do it for me23:05
prince_jammysstas ok bye23:05
stasbaba world :)23:06
LynoureZ3U5: you can browse to it with dolphin or konquer, or do    cat /etc/network/interfaces   on the commandline23:06
SpookyETkde4 is not very usable. But, I like what I see. It uses 100 megs less RAM than gnome. It uses less ram than xfce. I wonder why they are cloning compiz instead of creating a Qt4 gui for it23:07
LynoureZ3U5: but, oh, on gui:  K-menu --> System Settings -> Network connections -> Administrator Mode   then edit away23:08
prince_jammysubuntu :: type "which fdisk"23:10
Z3U5Lynoure: ok nice, can you tell where do i need to put which values eg: gateway, computerIP, DNS (preffered/ alternate)23:10
Z3U5Lynoure: too used to windows ...sorry23:11
LynoureZ3U5: gateway goes to the Routes tab, IP to the 1st tab (Network interfaces), DNS to Domain Name System tab23:12
LynoureZ3U5: click on "Configure interface" to change the ip and netmask23:12
Z3U5Lynoure: u see i did that, trying to use logic, but nothing i still got on cammand ifconfig, and no connection what i did get was a network disconnected icon in the panel23:15
sepeckhmmm.... my internet connection works, I ping via cmd line, I can update via Adept... I cannot browese the web with Konquer23:18
Z3U5Lynoure: do you think it could be a problem that the network card is not getting detected, bcoz in network settings it the network interface as eth023:18
LynoureZ3U5: I think it only applies when you have clicked apply23:18
LynoureZ3U5: eth0 is what the first network card normally is23:19
Z3U5Lynoure: ya i did that too, apply23:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto23:19
LynoureZ3U5: then do   sudo ifdown eth0  and  sudo ifup eth023:20
LynoureZ3U5: if that does not work, you really need to pastebin the interfaces file23:20
holasameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?23:20
ubuntu__Lynoure: is ifup about the same as ifconfig up?23:20
sepeckodd... FF works.  Ah well, FF it is23:21
Lynoureubuntu__: both ifup and ifconfig are used to boss interfaces... see man ifup  and man ifconfig respectively23:21
ubuntu__ok, i was just wondering if there weren't a simple difference to them, or if they were basically the same23:22
fefferHi all, desktop icons were lost after upgrade to Gutsy. Sys settings don't restore them. Search didn't resolve it? Any ideas?23:22
Lynoureubuntu__: We both might have been too lazy to make 100% sure =)23:22
Z3U5Lynoure: will try that, for now i need to crash, 5 am here in india, will you be here tomorrow?23:23
ubuntu__Lynoure: perhaps. i am in the middle of trying to get wireless going on 2 pcs, having issues, and was looking for some quick enlightenment23:23
fefferAfter playing with settings, they popped back but didn't survive reboot23:23
ubuntu__i am using wireless on this thing (finally) running off a live CD23:24
LynoureZ3U5: I'm pretty much always here, but quite busy tomorrow, so I might be idle. But the channel is full of helpful people23:24
Lynoureubuntu__: I run out of enlightenment at 1am23:24
Z3U5Lynoure: thanks23:25
ubuntu__Lynoure: i am ALWAYS in short supply23:25
Lynoureubuntu__: now here just to wrap things up before catching my zzz23:25
ubuntu__Lynoure: where are you at?23:25
Lynoureubuntu__: Helsinki23:25
ubuntu__ahh.... linus in disguise, eh?23:26
ubuntu__i knew he used ubuntu!23:26
holasameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?23:26
Lynoureubuntu__: He is not even in Finland, I think :)23:26
ubuntu__Lynoure: i think he's in californication23:26
Lynourehola: more detail: make, model problem, and you might be lucky23:26
SpookyET weird. kde4 has a nice gui for desktop resize and rotate that uses xrandr. It would no go above 1280x800. I switched to gnome not restarting X and my laptop is 1680x1050 and my tv 1920x1080. hahaha23:27
holaLynoure:  0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.23:27
holaLynoure: /dev/video it does not created23:27
ubuntu__i accidentally deleted the clock in the panel on KDE4, and for the life of me, i do not know how to get it back23:28
Lynourehola: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/zaapa-webcam-en-ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-gibbon-2/ seems to have a step-by-step for that.23:29
BluesKajubuntu__, right click on the panel ..add aplet to panel23:29
holaLynoure: i lready know that site23:30
ubuntu__Bluein KDE4 , i did not see that option23:30
holabut the problem is that the cam is not recognize23:30
Lynourehola: and followed all the steps?23:30
holaand /devvideo is not created23:30
BluesKajubuntu__, ??23:30
jussi01ubuntu__: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde423:31
Lynourehola: /dev/video1 or /dev/video0 ?23:31
holano /dev/video is createed23:31
holai dont know why23:31
jussi01ubuntu__: when you get there, i can help you23:31
ubuntu__jussi: i was making a comment, but thanks for the link23:32
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ubuntu__ty jussi01, i may go there in a bit23:32
Lynourehola: that was my extent of wakefulness for now, and I have no hands-on with that cam... check  dmesg  for hints, try reconnecting the device and such.23:33
ubuntu__this is strange. i am connected to this IRC channel, but konqueror cannot connect to the net23:34
holaLynoure: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4932/23:38

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