[00:07] <Oloughlin75> how would i go about making files accessible across my network that is mostly XP?
[00:08] <jussi01> !samba
[00:08] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:08] <Oloughlin75> thanks
[00:08] <MrJigsaw> Oloughlin75: in stall samba then go to remote places in 'System Menu' :-)
[00:09] <MrJigsaw> If you like GUI ;)
[00:09] <Oloughlin75> alright :)
[00:10] <mrunagi> interesting..........my quick launch doesnt do the zoom effect
[00:11] <Oloughlin75> MrJigsaw: do i just add a network share?
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> No
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> isent there a menu called 'samba shares' ?
[00:11] <Oloughlin75> theres an icon
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> yes
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> press it :)
[00:12] <Oloughlin75> and its empty :)
[00:12] <MrJigsaw> try rebooting.. dno, it works here for me.
[00:12] <Oloughlin75> brb
[00:13] <MrJigsaw> Where is it a set a standard device for extension ?
[00:13] <MrJigsaw> extensions*
[00:14] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: right click a file of the type you want to configure, go to properties, click the spanner, then set the program you want at the top
[00:15] <mrunagi> !dvd
[00:15] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> Thanks, jussi01 :-)
[00:15] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: :)
[00:17] <mrunagi> The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD
[00:17] <mrunagi> what does that mean
[00:22] <mhollisjr> are there any known issues for booting kubuntu and having an ipod touch plugged in?
[00:22] <mhollisjr> my boots seem to only work sometimes when that's the case
[00:25] <icanhasadmin> describe "work"
[00:25] <mhollisjr> boot into the operating system
[00:27] <icanhasadmin> where does it fail?
[00:28] <mhollisjr> my keyboard initializes about the same time (again this doesn't always happen) so I assume right when USB is initialized
[00:28] <Marbug> !vmware
[00:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[00:29] <Marbug> hm
[00:29] <Marbug> o no vmware possible vor ? :s
[00:29] <mrunagi_> !dvd
[00:29] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:30] <eduardo> hello, who can tell me what is the diferent between ubunt and kubuntu ?
[00:30] <mrunagi_> gnome and kde eduardo
[00:30] <jussi01> eduardo: ubuntu has the gnome desktop, kubuntu has kde
[00:30] <eduardo> so it's only visual?
[00:31] <flipstar> it goes a little bit deeper..
[00:31] <flipstar> but in generally..yes
[00:31] <eduardo> which is better for a old computer?
[00:32] <jussi01> !xubuntu | eduardo
[00:32] <ubotu> eduardo: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[00:32] <flipstar> gnome and kde are both heavy
[00:33] <mrunagi_> anyone remember changing the alt+tab window order
[00:33] <eduardo> thanks!! I will go to #xubunt
[00:33] <mrunagi_> meaning not cycling through windows but rather changing to the last window?
[00:41] <maroo> what is the recommended way to install the latest nvidia driver on gutsy?
[00:42] <mrunagi_> !envy
[00:42] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:45] <maroo> so envy is recommended if you want to use the latest driver or manual installation?! :)
[00:45] <jussi01> NO!
[00:47] <maroo> this was no binary question :O
[00:47] <Daisuke_Ido> it most certainly was
[00:48] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't do either
[00:48] <maroo> so i do what to get the *latest* driver?
[00:48] <Daisuke_Ido> well, you CAN, but don't complain if something breaks
[00:49] <Daisuke_Ido> do you have an absolute OMGI'MGONNADIEIFIDON'THAVEIT need for the latest driver?
[00:49] <maroo> it supposes to fix all the kde4 scrolling flaws
[00:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm...
[00:50] <Daisuke_Ido> if you MUST do that, don't go with envy
[00:51] <flipstar> why dont you use restricted manager ?
[00:52] <maroo> because the restricted manager offers very very old drivers as it seems
[00:53] <maroo> which contain critical bugs for kde4 usage
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> maroo» install the directly from the nvidia website
[00:55] <maroo> ok.. will do.. as there seem to be no other option.. will the  nvidia installer generate a deb?
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> maroo» no... but I think there is a script to uninstall it
[00:56] <morslok> everytime I go to add remove program files i get a message that says the package system is in use, and I try to resolve it and it doesn't work. any ideas what to do?
[00:56] <maroo> hm.. :(
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[00:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:56] <morslok> wow, must be a common one
[00:56]  * maroo wonders why there is no deb with the latest drivers :(
[00:57] <flipstar> maroo: the nvidia installer is prettey good..you just need libc6-dev and kernel headers ..
[00:57] <maroo> but it feels wrong to install stuff that is not registerd with dpkg..
[00:58] <mhollisjr> does ubuntu have a personal bin directory?
[00:59] <mhollisjr> nevermind just made one myself
[01:00] <Oloughlin75> !find libvisual
[01:00] <ubotu> Found: libvisual-0.4-0, libvisual-0.4-dev, libvisual-0.4-plugins
[01:03] <morslok> thanks that worked
[01:06] <ublongata> where are the files located that add options to KDM login? like different version of KDE, Gnome sessions
[01:06] <dushara> Hi this is the first time I'm using IRC...
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> hello dushara
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> ublongata» /etc/X11/xsession
[01:07] <ublongata> i installed KDE4 and now my KDE3 logins launch KDE4 apps by default as if it's preceding other locations in the PATH
[01:08] <dushara> Hi nosrefnaekim. How exactly does one go about getting help for specific questions?
[01:08] <jussi01> !ask | dushara
[01:08] <ubotu> dushara: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:09] <tekteen> dushara: that its self was a question :-)
[01:10] <dushara> Has anybody got IIIMF working in kubuntu?
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> IIIMF is?
[01:11] <tekteen> lol
[01:11]  * tekteen does not know either
[01:12] <tekteen> I googled it
[01:12] <dushara> iiimf : input method framework for internationalisation.
[01:23] <FuriousMojo> Hi all, I just got a GeForce 7200 GS and I'm getting "Screens not found" after installing the Nvidia driver from the website
[01:24] <FuriousMojo> "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[01:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:26] <mrunagi> why cant libdvdcss2 be clear on how to install
[01:27] <mrunagi> !dvd
[01:27] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:28] <tekteen> mrunagi: I suggest medibuntu
[01:29] <mrunagi> !medibuntu
[01:29] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:29] <tekteen> !medibuntu > mrunagi
[01:29] <tekteen> !msgthebot
[01:29] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[01:29] <tekteen> !msgthebot|mrunagi
[01:29] <ubotu> mrunagi: please see above
[01:31] <FuriousMojo> Argh... I just tried installing Nvida driver through restricted driver manager and now it does not boot past running local boot scripts
[01:31] <mrunagi> tekteen: what did i do wrong
[01:31] <tekteen> what do you mean?
[01:31] <mrunagi> for you to use that trigger
[01:32] <tekteen> if the information is for you, you should msg the bot
[01:33] <mrunagi> anyone know why my quick launcher doesnt do the zoom effect on a fresh install?
[01:34] <flipstar> graphic issue maybe ?
[01:35] <mrunagi> =(
[01:35] <FuriousMojo> Can someone help me install the nvidia driver (using restircted driver manager did not work - I'm on gutsy)
[01:35] <mrunagi> it does it for the desktop icon
[01:36] <flipstar> with quick launcher you mean the kicker ?
[01:36] <mrunagi> i guess
[01:37] <mhollisjr> does anyone know of any xfire compatible instant messenger for linux
[01:37] <osiris> ok, any idea why my filesystem just went read only on me ?
[01:37] <mrunagi> it use to zoom the icon and fade
[01:37] <osiris> ext3
[01:37] <osiris> single / partition
[01:37] <flipstar> osiris: an filesystem error probably
[01:37] <flipstar> run fsck is recommend
[01:38] <osiris> if i reboot the box, it will be fine for a few hours, then randomly go read only again
[01:38] <mrunagi> anyone good with fstab entries?>
[01:38] <Rtfum-aF> adi adm Alethes
[01:38] <osiris> do i have to do that from a local login ? and if so, what is the syntax for the command i want to run
[01:38] <tekteen> mrunagi: what is the problem?
[01:38] <flipstar> osiris: you may watch /var/log/messages ..maybe its your hardware ..?
[01:39] <osiris> im not doubting the had drive may be going
[01:39] <osiris> but i would like to know how to force a filesystem check on next reboot
[01:39] <mrunagi> tekteen: you know on the quick launch when you click an icon it zooms and fades?
[01:40] <tekteen> mrunagi: nope. I thought you asked about fstab.
[01:40] <mrunagi> oooh i did lol
[01:40] <tekteen> ok
[01:40] <mrunagi> i didnt save my fsstab so i dont have the entry needed to automatically mount my ntfs drives
[01:40] <tekteen> ok
[01:41] <tekteen> mrunagi: is it a "vista partitions"
[01:42] <mrunagi> its ntfs
[01:42] <tekteen> vista or xp?
[01:42] <tekteen> they are different
[01:42] <mrunagi> its neither
[01:42] <mrunagi> just ntfs
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> what version of windows was it created with?
[01:42] <mrunagi> i dont really remember
[01:43] <mrunagi> im going to assume xp
[01:43] <tekteen> ok
[01:43] <tekteen> ok
[01:44] <pawan> any good kde distro of ubuntu
[01:44] <flipstar> there is only one
[01:44] <mrunagi> what the heck is kde distro of ubuntu other than kubuntu
[01:44] <osiris> flipstar, so no idea on how to force the filesystem check ?
[01:45] <LukeLC> kubuntu comes with only KDE, kubuntu is THE kde distro of ubuntu :P
[01:45] <flipstar> no at least not automaticly..
[01:45] <tekteen> mrunagi: add something like this to /etc/fstab ------------> /dev/something  /media/ntfs-partition  ntfs  defaults  0 0
[01:45] <mrunagi> k
[01:45] <flipstar> osiris: i would login to rescue mode and run fsck manually ..
[01:46] <tekteen> mrunagi: then type sudo mount -a in a konsole
[01:46] <osiris> mrunagi, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/02/msg01030.html
[01:47] <mhollisjr> what package is glib in? I'm trying to compile something and it's complaining about glib not being there
[01:48] <flipstar>  libglib1.2-dev maybe
[01:49] <mhollisjr> substitued for 2.0 and yeah that wasn't there I'm trying it now
[01:49] <mhollisjr> yep that did it thank you
[01:50] <mrunagi> its not mounting =(
[01:50] <LukeLC> imo ubuntu should come with kde by default:P and there should be a gubuntu!
[01:50] <flipstar> i agree
[01:51] <regeya> well...that's your opinion :-> and you're not alone, but there are a lot of people who like gnome.  remember there are also people who actually like windows
[01:51] <mrunagi> i have to manually mount it =(
[01:51] <flipstar> LukeLC: lets make a petition or somethin ^^
[01:51]  * regeya sees kubuntu as 'the real ubuntu'
[01:51] <tekteen> mrunagi: why?
[01:51] <maroo> regeya: for those people there will be gubuntu :)
[01:51] <mrunagi> because it doesnt mount when i plug it in
[01:51]  * tekteen agrees
[01:51] <tekteen> mrunagi: oh
[01:52] <mrunagi> how do i get the drives uid
[01:52] <regeya> hehehehehehe
[01:52] <tekteen> mrunagi: kde has a manager
[01:52] <flipstar> mrunagi: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al
[01:53] <mrunagi> says not a directory
[01:53] <tekteen> blkuid
[01:54] <mrunagi> ?
[01:54] <tekteen> mrunagi: the command is blkuid
[01:54] <tekteen> no
[01:54] <tekteen> blkid
[01:55] <mrunagi> rt
[01:55] <mrunagi> ty
[01:55] <tekteen> rt?
[01:55] <tekteen> what does that mean
[01:55] <flipstar> typo
[01:55] <jussi01> !uuid
[01:55] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:56] <kiefer> Hey is anyone familiar with .rmvb files?
[01:56] <mrunagi> brb
[01:58] <mrunagi> still doesnt mount
[01:58] <mrunagi> UUID=5AD8009AD8007693 /media/External ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[01:58] <flipstar> whats the message ?
[01:59] <mrunagi> there is no message, i can do it manually
[01:59] <mrunagi> it just doesnt mount
[01:59] <mrunagi> automatically
[02:00] <flipstar> oh right the gui's are not very communicative
[02:00] <mrunagi> ?
[02:01] <mrunagi> i do however get  Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[02:01] <mrunagi> but its unrelated
[02:01] <mrunagi> my pcm is always turned down by default too
[02:02] <mrunagi> so are my mics
[02:04] <mrunagi> i killed the channel =/
[02:04] <kiefer> Murderer.
[02:05] <mrunagi> i didnt mean to
[02:05] <flipstar> damn wine is compiling since 30minutes or so :/
[02:05] <will00> ey i have an issue with my kubuntu install, after i restart i get a grub error 15
[02:05] <kiefer> Wine took like 20 Mins to compile for me flip.
[02:05]  * kiefer will brb.
[02:06] <will00> k
[02:06] <flipstar> aight my machine is kind of antique
[02:06] <flipstar> will00: you installed grub by yourself ?
[02:06] <will00> no i used the installer off the livecd
[02:09] <mrunagi> my help has abandoned me =)
[02:10] <mrunagi> i never could easily figure out this ntfs-3g stuff
[02:11] <flipstar> will00: and after the installation you didnt changed any? like hard drive configuration or something..
[02:11] <flipstar> mrunagi: without an error message i dont know where to start ..
[02:11] <mrunagi> how do i find an error message
[02:12] <flipstar> you can try to mount it manually
[02:12] <mrunagi> i have and can
[02:12] <flipstar> ..so whats the problem ..?
[02:13] <mrunagi> i want it to automatically mount
[02:13] <flipstar> just add it to fstab then ..
[02:13] <mrunagi> i did
[02:13] <mrunagi> it doesnt mount
[02:13] <flipstar> what does it say ?
[02:13] <mrunagi> .....
[02:13] <flipstar> in konsole just typ mount -a
[02:13] <flipstar> as root, using sudo
[02:14] <mrunagi> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/External: Input/output error
[02:14] <flipstar> you checked the device and mountpoint ?
[02:15] <mrunagi> meaning
[02:15] <flipstar> are you sure you specified the hard drive correct ? and the mount point
[02:16] <sd32> is it worth going to kde 3.5.9?
[02:16] <mrunagi> i did it by uid
[02:17] <flipstar> does it work with ntfs instead of ntfs-3g in fstab ?
[02:19] <mrunagi> we are getting closer
[02:19] <mrunagi> now i get
[02:19] <will00> srry bout the delay
[02:19] <will00> yea i set everything right
[02:19] <mrunagi> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[02:20] <will00> iv gotten it to work before, but i did a rebuild to add some thermal paste and it didnt work right after that, same jumpers, same everything
[02:21] <Oloughlin75> mrunagi: sudo whatever your trying to do
[02:21] <flipstar> mounting with fstab
[02:21] <Oloughlin75> sudo mount /blah/ /to/blah or w/e
[02:21] <mrunagi> i got it
[02:21] <mrunagi> uncheck mount as user
[02:21] <flipstar> and ntfs
[02:21] <mrunagi> im a happier camper
[02:21] <mrunagi> now if i can just get that zoom efect on the quicklauncher ill be happier still
[02:22] <mrunagi> =)
[02:22] <Oloughlin75> mrunagi: kde4?
[02:22] <mrunagi> no
[02:22] <Oloughlin75> compiz?
[02:22] <mrunagi> no
[02:22] <mrunagi> er well
[02:22] <mrunagi> it is installed but not running
[02:22] <Oloughlin75> how can you add effects to it?
[02:23] <mrunagi> didnt say you could
[02:23] <mrunagi> but before i reinstalled when i clicked on icons on the quick launcher it would zoom and fade........just like the show desktop icon
[02:23] <mrunagi> and how it does it in dolphin
[02:24] <eduardo_> hi...a thing happend, i install kubuntu in my acer notebook, but when open konsole and write "sudo apt-get install ' example firefox'" the system said - the pakage isnt be
[02:24] <eduardo_> what can i do
[02:24] <mrunagi> enable universe and multivers
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i have returned to kde
[02:25] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: you left it?
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: i haven't used kde in months
[02:25] <mrunagi> returned from where
[02:25] <eduardo_> plz heelp
[02:25] <DarkShinigami> How do I play DVDs? I have a DVD in the drive and it will tell me that it cannot be read.
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: what were you useing?
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> !dvd | DarkShinigami
[02:26] <ubotu> DarkShinigami: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:26] <MrUnagi> !dvd | DarkShinigami
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> gnome
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> i win =)
[02:26] <MrUnagi> ew why Daisuke_Ido
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> i liked fluxbox a lot but im too lazy to set it all up
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: because desktop environment is a personal choice and i happen to like gnome.  is that good enough?
[02:27] <MrUnagi> um ok calm down killer
[02:27] <Oloughlin75> !find fluxbox
[02:27] <ubotu> Found: fluxbox
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, i would have been mean :)
[02:27] <MrUnagi> gnome isnt functional or even nice looking
[02:28] <Oloughlin75> gnome is very functional
[02:28] <MrUnagi> not compared to kde
[02:28] <MrUnagi> one of my major gripes with it is you couldnt sort by anything but name
[02:28] <MrUnagi> .................why?
[02:28] <MrUnagi> on the desktop that is
[02:28] <flipstar> MrUnagi: you'll adapt it if you run it for a longer time
[02:28] <Oloughlin75> who uses icons on their desktop?!
[02:28] <MrUnagi> its all i ran
[02:29] <flipstar> i do
[02:29] <MrUnagi> i started on ubuntu, resisted kde for a LONG time
[02:29] <MrUnagi> because the default config is ugly =)
[02:29] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: i agree!
[02:29] <Oloughlin75> it is in every kde distro... all are fat gray bars
[02:29] <MrUnagi> but i move the bar to the top and make it about 30 pixels and im good
[02:29] <MrUnagi> it was the zoom icon effect thing that i liked
[02:29] <MrUnagi> but i seemed to have lost that
[02:30] <MrUnagi> at least on the quick launcher and that makes me sad
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  you made it more gnomelike
[02:30] <sd32> i dont like how you cant resize ythe taskbar in kde 4
[02:30] <MrUnagi> um i guess
[02:30] <Alethes> heh, my kde is very gnome-like
[02:30] <Oloughlin75> sd32: you can in its config file
[02:30] <MrUnagi> you could also say its more osxish
[02:30] <sd32> ohh
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: not exactly, since kde has a desktop menu bar that mimics OSX :)
[02:31] <Oloughlin75> sd32: i forget exactly what it is buts its something like ~/.plasma/ or /.kde
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> which i played with
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> for five minutes
[02:31] <MrUnagi> so does gnome
[02:31] <sd32> Oloughlin75: how do you get to that? right clicking dosent work
[02:31] <MrUnagi> we arent talking about that dock
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> and then i opened firefox and realized it wasn't even a remotely smart menubar
[02:31] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its a text file
[02:32] <sd32> Oloughlin75: ohh
[02:32] <DarkShinigami> Oloughlin75: Thanks. That did it. I had to run the install-css.sh file
[02:32] <Oloughlin75> :)
[02:32] <sd32> cause 3.5.* is just a right click.. easy
[02:33] <Oloughlin75> sd32: kde4 isnt complete yet
[02:33] <Oloughlin75> sd32: GUI config will come in time, and the taskbar really isnt necessary
[02:33] <MrUnagi> i dont get it man
[02:33] <MrUnagi> the zoom thingy doesnt do it on the live cd either
[02:34] <sd32> Oloughlin75: they shouldnt have released it in my opinion..till it was done
[02:34] <MrUnagi> maybe its a kubuntu-desktop thing
[02:34] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: did you enable mouseover effects?
[02:34] <MrUnagi> where do u do that
[02:34] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its functional enough, and its stable enough
[02:34] <sd32> true
[02:34] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: configure panel -> appearence
[02:35] <MrUnagi> it says its enabled
[02:35] <sd32> Oloughlin75: we agree to dissagree :-)
[02:35] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its more meant to mess around in, see whats coming
[02:35] <sd32> Oloughlin75: then it should still be in beta
[02:36] <Oloughlin75> it isnt buggy
[02:36] <MrUnagi> does anyone know what im talking about when i say the zoom fade thingy with the quicklauncher
[02:36] <sd32> its not buggy, just not complete
[02:36] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: ive only seen something like that in KDE4... compiz may have something like it though
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its complete enough to be used
[02:37] <MrUnagi> it wasnt compiz
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> beryl?
[02:37] <sd32> lol. ok ok
[02:37] <MrUnagi> it wasnt anything like that it would do it even when i had compositing turned off
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> sd32: you just want it to be easier ;)
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: i have no idea
[02:38] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: ok you know when you click on an icon in dolphin how it zooms and fades as it loads?
[02:38] <sd32> Oloughlin75: yeah.. ya got me..lol dont we all..;-)
[02:38] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: umm, no, lol
[02:38] <MrUnagi> .....
[02:38] <MrUnagi> does it only do it for me?
[02:39] <Oloughlin75> mine brightens when i have mouse over, but it doesnt zoom when i click
[02:39] <MrUnagi> what does it do
[02:39] <sd32> Oloughlin75: why dont you want it to be easier?
[02:39] <Oloughlin75> nothing, goes to whatever i clicked on
[02:39] <Oloughlin75> sd32: im not using it, am i? :)
[02:40] <MrUnagi> i swear to god tihs computer randomly removes programs
[02:40] <sd32> Oloughlin75: didn't know :-/
[02:40] <Oloughlin75> lol
[02:40] <Roey> hi
[02:40] <MrUnagi> do icons not zoom for anyone when you click them>
[02:40] <Oloughlin75> sd32: taskbar really isnt needed if they added a keep widgets on top of other windows
[02:40] <flipstar> MrUnagi: of corse they do
[02:41] <Roey> Gnash folks says their software shows Youtube fine; will this work into Hardy Heron?"
[02:41] <Roey> thanks
[02:41] <Oloughlin75> sd32: the widgets are nice because you can arrange your desktop however you want
[02:41] <MrUnagi> flipstar: does that not happen for you when you click them on your quicklauncher?
[02:41] <pushax> can someone tell me the default place the Maildir is?
[02:41] <sd32> Oloughlin75: plus that scroling k menu  is horrible
[02:41] <flipstar> MrUnagi: no
[02:41] <Oloughlin75> Roey: last time i use gnash it was hit or miss if its show video
[02:41] <Roey> right
[02:41] <Roey> when was that?  THe Gnash folks are sort of adamant that it works
[02:41] <Oloughlin75> it should work in hardy though
[02:41] <Roey> hrm
[02:41] <Roey> ok
[02:42] <Oloughlin75> as well as it does in gusty :)
[02:42] <Roey> :(
[02:42] <MrUnagi> what was that command to see uid again?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[02:42] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:42] <Oloughlin75> sd32: i just wish it didnt sae were you last opened it -- i dont often open the same thing many times
[02:43] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its annoying to go back several levels to get to a different application type
[02:43] <flipstar> ..talking about kde4..?
[02:43] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: yep
[02:43] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  <bjacques> it's planned to be released next week
[02:44] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  (this is a #gnash dev)
[02:44] <Oloughlin75> Roey: what?
[02:44] <Roey> says that they're releasing their youtube-ready version next week
[02:44] <sd32> Oloughlin75: im talking about the click scrolling aspect  of it and having to click to go backwards
[02:44] <Oloughlin75> Roey: lol -- hit or miss like i said ;)
[02:44] <Roey> :)
[02:44] <Roey> alright
[02:44] <Roey> here'sa weird problem
[02:45] <kenneth> hello all
[02:45] <Oloughlin75> sd32: you want it to scroll down when the mouse is near the bottom?
[02:45] <Roey> does this axismapping look OK to you:  http://rafb.net/p/P9Xx5J93.html
[02:45] <kenneth> can someone tell me where to find emc channel ?
[02:45] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  My scrollwheel scrolls vertically instead of horizontally and I can't seem to change it
[02:46] <Oloughlin75> Roey: i cant exactly help you, sorry
[02:46] <Oloughlin75> <-- is still new
[02:46] <Roey> ahh :)
[02:46] <Roey> ok
[02:47] <sd32> Oloughlin75: no, when you have to click several  times to get to a program then when you want to get back to the main k menu you have to click on the edge of the panel to go back to the main panel
[02:47] <MrUnagi> when is hddvd going to die =(
[02:47] <Oloughlin75> sd32: thats what i was complaining about lol
[02:48] <Roey> I thought blu-ray is bad because it's yet-another-sony de-facto standard
[02:48] <sd32> then were on the same page..lol
[02:48] <flipstar> blueray is technically better
[02:48] <Roey> sure
[02:48] <Dr_willis> I consider blue ray bad. because its the movie companies wanting me to yet rebuy AGAIn all my movies.. :)
[02:48] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: more DRM and more expensive, also
[02:48] <Roey> but so was betamax
[02:48] <Roey> drm is why I stayed away from DVD drives too
[02:48] <MrUnagi> Dr_willis: and hddvd is good because....
[02:48] <Roey> and I stilldon't have one
[02:49] <MrUnagi> Roey: i dont consider the jump from vhs to dvd to be the same as dvd to bluray
[02:49] <Roey> so the only way to really get HD content off of these bluray players is to connect them to an HDCP-capable TV?
[02:49] <Roey> MrUnagi:  due to the drm, yes?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  i dident say it was good.
[02:50] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: it only matters to me on a huge huge tv... dvds look fine on a 50 inch to me
[02:50] <Dr_willis> I consider the whole blueray/hd stuff just the companies wanting more $$$ from the public.
[02:50] <Roey> hey Dr_willis  :)
[02:50] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: you and my mom would get along
[02:50] <Roey> lol
[02:50] <MrUnagi> Dr_willis: are you saying you dont see a big difference?
[02:50] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: :/
[02:50] <Dr_willis> I dont plan on buying any for a very long time
[02:50] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  I dont. :) but then again im not a big movie addict.
[02:50] <MrUnagi> <---------computer animator
[02:50] <MrUnagi> i guess it comes with the tradew
[02:51] <flipstar> Dr_willis: me too but its step forwards :)
[02:51] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  and i find it hard to justify HD for my anime. :)
[02:51] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: enjoy the movie, and stop searching for errors :)
[02:51] <MrUnagi>  Dr_willis anime would look awesome in HD
[02:51] <flipstar> about 10x more data to save on blueray instead of dvd
[02:51] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: yo uhave NO idea =)
[02:51] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  IF it was actually using the better res. :)  My Bugs Bunny Cartoons are not.
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Then again. i donthave a HD/Big Tv any more.
[02:51] <Roey> what does it matter when in a couple of years 32gb SD cards will be standard :P
[02:52] <MrUnagi> Roey: i cant wait
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> -years +months
[02:52] <Roey> MrUnagi:  you mean for those cheap SD cards that everyone seems to have missed the point about?
[02:52] <Roey> MrUnagi:  I wonder why the Industry hasn't shifted to selling software on SD cards.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Most of my portable gizmos cant handle the 4gb sd cards. :(
[02:52] <flipstar> ssd hard drives will come first i guess
[02:53] <Oloughlin75> Roey: because its way to easy to redistribute
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: and a CD isn't?
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> flipstar- SSD hard drives are already available
[02:53] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  you can incorporate drm very easily into a chip onboard the sd card...
[02:53] <MrUnagi> Dragnslcr: they just now started
[02:53] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: I've been wanting to do some computer animation for some time. What are you using in Kubuntu to do so?
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Roey: and that's also why it's a bad idea
[02:53] <Roey> MrUnagi:  what started
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: yeah, over a year ago
[02:53] <Roey> Daisuke_Ido:  from whose point of view, users or distributors
[02:53] <flipstar> yes Dragonatha but not for the masses..
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Roey: users
[02:54] <MrUnagi> DarkShinigami: maya is my tool of trade
[02:54] <Roey> Daisuke_Ido:  you think bluray is any better?
[02:54] <MrUnagi> er
[02:54] <MrUnagi> tool of preference
[02:54] <DarkShinigami> :)
[02:54] <Roey> Daisuke_Ido:  at least its' not yet-another-new-technology
[02:54] <Roey> requiring big expensive lasers
[02:54] <Roey> and a $500 reader.
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Roey: i don't get into the format war discussions.  dvd works for me, and i couldn't possibly care less
[02:54] <Roey> k.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> I would be overjoyed if the DVD-Dual Layer disks got afforable.
[02:54] <MrUnagi> you people that arent impressed by high def are just like when they came out with color tv
[02:55] <Dr_willis> and afforeable is NOT 10x the cost of a normal blank dvd. :)
[02:55] <Dr_willis> actually they are down to like 5x now i think.
[02:55] <flipstar> you cant even compare HD to dvd ..the quality is just amazing!
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: no, we're reasonable and don't blow a load over every new gadget.  i have a 37" hdtv that dvds look GREAT on, i see no reason to repurchase my entire library of dvds (500+) on another format
[02:55] <MrUnagi> thank u flipstar
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> the quality is in your head
[02:56] <Roey> http://boardreader.com/t/Hardware_Forum_196613/Flash_Drive_to_replace_Blu_Ray_and_HD_DV_30007.html
[02:56] <MrUnagi> um
[02:56] <MrUnagi> youre nuts
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> no, i'm sane, YOU'RE nuts.
[02:56] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_Ido: are you on a laptop?
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> no.
[02:56] <MrUnagi> lcd monitor?
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[02:56] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: Is Maya compatible with Kubuntu? Is it in the repos?
[02:56] <MrUnagi> whats the resolution
[02:56] <flipstar> Daisuke_Ido: on a 15"tft yes..maybe
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> 1280x1024
[02:56] <MrUnagi> DarkShinigami: its 6 grand and not free
[02:56] <flipstar> but when it comes to a bigger screen you see the difference
[02:56] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_Ido: do you run your resolution at 800 x 600
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: upscaling.
[02:57] <MrUnagi> why not........theres no difference in the quality
[02:57] <MrUnagi> run it at 800 x 600, save the life of the monitor
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, but there is, and what you're suggesting is substantially different
[02:57] <MrUnagi> it is no different
[02:57]  * DarkShinigami goes off to rob a bank for 6 grand... plus tax...
[02:57] <MrUnagi> dvd-roms have upscaled for years
[02:57] <MrUnagi> there are obvious artifacts
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> running at a non-native resolution != scaling to the proper resolution
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> really?
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't see them
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> again, this is a CHOICE, don't push yours on me, i don't care.
[02:58] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: you not LOOKING for them
[02:58] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_ido.................running a dvd full screen on anything above 640 x 480 IS the same thing
[02:58] <MrUnagi> as non-native
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: oh, of course!  i actually want to watch my movies rather than pick apart every little detail that may or may not be all in my head!
[02:58] <MrUnagi> assume that im looking for them
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i assume you have too much time on your hands
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido>  /EOD
[02:59] <MrUnagi> doesnt change the fact that dvd players can process all they want to, it doesnt match HD
[03:00] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: Is Maya compatible with Kubuntu?
[03:00]  * MrUnagi wonders how many people that 'dont see the difference' download the higher resolution video
[03:00] <Daisuke_Ido> so.  now that the argument is over, anyone have any problems actually related to the channel?
[03:00] <MrUnagi> DarkShinigami: technically
[03:00] <MrUnagi> no
[03:00] <DarkShinigami> WINE?
[03:00] <MrUnagi> no
[03:00] <MrUnagi> NO!~
[03:00] <flipstar> Daisuke_Ido: its a whole different level of pleasure to be able to see this details
[03:00] <MrUnagi> do NOT run 3d software with wine
[03:00] <DarkShinigami> ok
[03:00] <MrUnagi> search ubuntuforums.org
[03:01] <MrUnagi> howto install maya
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sorry, i don't see how it's that great.  now, discussion OVER.
[03:01] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: have you used blender?
[03:01] <MrUnagi> its an involved process, linux native maya is in rpm
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to keep talking about it, go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:01] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: cant stand it
[03:01] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_Ido: must have the last word
[03:01] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: its bad?
[03:01] <MrUnagi> i wouldnt say that, but i cant stand the camera
[03:01] <MrUnagi> i dunno if it can be changed or not, but at my present lifestyle i dont have time to learn it
[03:02] <MrUnagi> the camera stays in orthographic no matter how you move it
[03:02] <Oloughlin75> lol
[03:03] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: im tempted to try it out.. the only modeling iv done has been in autocad
[03:03] <MrUnagi> thats cool
[03:03] <MrUnagi> im not really a modeller
[03:03] <MrUnagi> more of an animator/compositor/effects
[03:03] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: just push around the models?
[03:03] <Oloughlin75> :)
[03:03] <MrUnagi> yeeeea exactly what i do =)
[03:03] <MrUnagi> www.animatedanimator.com
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> !ot
[03:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:04] <MrUnagi> !whiner
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whiner - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> !attitude
[03:04] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: the channels been OT for more than an hour
[03:04] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> doesn'tmean they SHOULD be
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: it shouldn't be, so take it to -offtopic
[03:04] <Oloughlin75> We all should go :)
[03:04] <MrUnagi> yea!
[03:04] <flipstar> okay i will start
[03:05] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: What do you suggest for frame-by-frame animation? I have many of my old drawings that I want to turn into animation. I don't have the equipment that I had back in school.
[03:06] <MrUnagi> flash......
[03:06] <MrUnagi> might run ok in wine
[03:06] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: I have scanned my multiple images and am ready to put them into frame animation.
[03:06] <thechris> amited gifs?  or mjpeg?
[03:07] <thechris> (or mpeg without P/B frames)
[03:07] <DarkShinigami> thechris: gif, avi... final format doesn't really matter much to me.
[03:07]  * Daisuke_Ido looks
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> this still isn't the offtopic channel...
[03:08] <DarkShinigami> I want to know of an app which runs in Kubuntu that can help with creating the animation for the images I have.
[03:08] <DarkShinigami> The images are jpg and I want to convert to animation.
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> DarkShinigami» Gimp
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> turn them into a GIF
[03:08] <DarkShinigami> nosrednaekim: Gimp does animation?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> I think so.
[03:09] <thechris> oh, why is it that when i tab complete /med[tab], i get /media/cdrom0, even though I have a /media/box dir
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> thechris» it doesn'tjust end at media?
[03:09] <thechris> nope
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> wierd.
[03:09] <thechris> i have to backspace and type in the b[tab]
[03:09] <stdin> thechris: because you typed "mount" first
[03:10] <thechris> oh, so its taking that from fstab?
[03:10] <stdin> yep
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> zsh?
[03:10] <thechris> ok, that makes sense.
[03:10] <thechris> its kubuntu default
[03:10] <stdin> nosrednaekim: bash_completion
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> wow... how do you turn that on?
[03:10] <stdin> it should be by default
[03:11] <stdin> as long as you have bash-completion installed
[03:12] <stdin> or just add "if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then . /etc/bash_completion; fi" to your ~/.bashrc
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:20] <regeya_> whee
[03:20] <Oloughlin75> woo
[03:20] <regeya> yay
[03:21] <MrUnagi> offtopic!!!
[03:21] <regeya> ...
[03:21] <MrUnagi> just wait........daisy duke will yell at you
[03:22] <MrUnagi> :D
[03:22] <regeya> daisy...oh, heh.
[03:22] <regeya> Daisuke I assume
[03:22] <stdin> no, it's me who will "tell you off"
[03:22] <regeya> how bout that KDE4!!!
[03:23]  * regeya saves himself...
[03:23] <MrUnagi> its incompelte!
[03:23] <MrUnagi> incomplete even
[03:23] <regeya> yes, we seem to be killing the thread of conversation...
[03:23] <regeya> such as it is
[03:23] <Oloughlin75> regeya: KDE4 is nice :)
[03:23] <bioss> hello
[03:23] <MrUnagi> i think that when i run kde4 and i have an app crash it shatters to pieces its going to scare the crap out of me
[03:23] <regeya> the second something relevant comes up, rest assured I will shut up (unless I have something insightful to interject)
[03:24] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: explosions!
[03:24] <regeya> mmm...desktops with pyro
[03:24] <stdin> how about this, KDE4 support in #kubuntu-kde4, Kubuntu support in here, anything else in #kubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else that's not here
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> hey biossdid you get your sound fixed?
[03:25] <bioss> no sound on internal speakears on a hp dv6000 but the sound is coming out on headphone
[03:25] <bioss> no
[03:25] <MrUnagi> i have a dv6000t
[03:25] <MrUnagi> anyone know why pcm is off by default?
[03:25] <MrUnagi> how do i change that
[03:25] <Oloughlin75> whats pcm?
[03:25] <MrUnagi> audio
[03:25] <MrUnagi> !pcm
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> what card?
[03:26] <MrUnagi> interesting
[03:26] <MrUnagi> hrm
[03:26] <regeya> Oloughlin75: roughly, sound, unless you're interested to know that that's Pulse Code Modulation
[03:26] <sd32> are there any kde 4 downgrade coupons..lol
[03:26] <bioss> i tried the web from <teekteen> but didnt work
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> regeya: what card are you trying to set up?
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> regeya: in hd audio?
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> intel*
[03:26] <MrUnagi> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[03:27] <bioss> hd intel
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> !hdaudio
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <regeya> Oloughlin75: I'm not, but I thought I'd interject...cripes, I just can't make anyone happy. :<
[03:27] <bioss> yes
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> uhh whats the tag
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> !hda
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <stdin> !intelhda
[03:27] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:27] <bioss> yes
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> that!
[03:27] <stdin> !msgthebot > Oloughlin75  /msg the bot when you don't know
[03:28] <Oloughlin75> didnt know you -could- message the bot
[03:28] <MrUnagi> now you know
[03:28] <MrUnagi> what exactly is pcm
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> MrUnagi»itd kinda like a "master" channel usually
[03:28] <regeya> and if you want the bot to tell someone in particular, you do it like this:  !intelhda | Oloughlin75
[03:29] <Oloughlin75> i know regeya :)
[03:29] <MrUnagi> any idea why it is turned down by defualt for me nosrednaekim
[03:29] <regeya> oh sorry
[03:29] <bioss> already tried all of the page
[03:29]  * regeya apparently continues the trend of alienating everyone in the channel
[03:29] <Oloughlin75> :)
[03:31] <bioss> any good tutorials for ruby
[03:32] <regeya> careful--that's not kde-specific
[03:33] <MrUnagi> is that off topic?
[03:33] <MrUnagi> !offtopic
[03:33] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:33] <MrUnagi> better trigger it just in case
[03:33] <stdin> ruby? yes it is offtopic
[03:33] <regeya> but bioss, yes, take a look at ruby-lang.org.  and avoid getting the pragmatic programmers book.
[03:34] <Oloughlin75> the learn how to program poorly books, regeya?
[03:35] <regeya> stdin: if someone were to ask how to set up rails by installing the packages from the repos, would that be on-topic or is this channel very specifically only about kde packages from the default install or just kde...is there a set of official guidelines?  see, I would think that IntelHDA would be offtopic since that's a kernel issue, and could be resolved in #ubuntu, but I could be totally wrong.
[03:36] <regeya> Oloughlin75: indeed.  btw, there are qt and kde bindings for ruby, and I'm told they're quite fun to work with.
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> regeya- sound issues could also be settings in KMix
[03:36] <oneeyedelf1> anyone here use 64bit kubuntu with a 8600gt, I can't get the accelerated drivers to work
[03:36] <stdin> regeya: read the topic, Kubuntu support includes installing packages in Kubuntu, but not learning a scripting language
[03:37] <regeya> stdin: ah, but scripting language education could be a setup issue as well...granted, ruby's a stretch, but...you're right, of course. :-)
[03:37]  * regeya goes off to read the faq and will now stfu
[03:37] <stdin> also, do not use acronyms like stfu, at all
[03:38] <stdin> !guidelines | you should read this
[03:38] <ubotu> you should read this: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:38] <regeya> ...
[03:39]  * regeya raises his right hand and solemnly swears to not diss himself again in this channel...y'know, screw this, this is getting way too close to #debian, though the lack of kickban is nice...good NIGHT.
[03:39] <regeya> knowing full well I am a volunteer, I bid you a good day, night, or whateer it is in your area.  cheers.
[03:39] <Oloughlin75> have a nice night regeya
[03:40] <ross> does anyone know of a panel that spans two monitors in kde4?
[03:41]  * stdin points ross to #kubuntu-kde4 and #kde for KDE4 questions
[03:41] <ross> stdin: thank you
[03:41] <bioss> how do i verified that my modem is enable?
[03:42] <stdin> !dialup
[03:42] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[03:42] <bioss> thanks
[03:45] <gangadjinn> anybody like to help me abit with a diskproblem?? Seem to be unable to mount my disks... and it annoys me...
[03:46] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: whats the error?
[03:47] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: right click the drive, and uncheck mount as user
[03:48] <gangadjinn> Mount is denied because NTFS seem to be in use...
[03:48] <Oloughlin75> :/ nvm
[03:52] <Oloughlin75> does amarok support album art for ipods?
[03:53] <gangadjinn> where can I get eyecandy for kde4??
[03:55] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: under system settings -> appearence?
[03:57] <sd32> gangadjinn: www.kde-look.org
[04:00] <gangadjinn> was thinking if there where any other sites...
[04:00] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: you mean artwork?
[04:00] <Oloughlin75> www.art4linux.org is alright
[04:00] <Oloughlin75> but if you want backgrounds and such, www.deviantart.com is by far the best
[04:01] <Oloughlin75> doesnt have themes and stuff though
[04:01] <gangadjinn> just looking for something to make my screen less ehm... blue... and maybe some widgets........ testing the KDE4
[04:01] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: it comes with some pretty good background IMO
[04:02] <bioss> how do i turn on my modem it seems that if i dont turn on the modem the integrated speakears of the dv600 are working i dont know if it is install since i just installed kubuntu
[04:02] <gangadjinn> yupp... not bad... but just looking whats there already,,, just to have a peek really:D
[04:03] <bioss> dv6000
[04:03] <Oloughlin75> !dialup
[04:03] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[04:04] <Dragnslcr> Sound and modem not working at the same time makes me think of IRQ conflicts
[04:04] <Dragnslcr> But I don't think those have actually existed for about 10 years
[04:04] <Oloughlin75> lol
[04:05] <bioss> no that i have broadband but if i dont turn on the modem sound dosnt come out of the integrated speakears of the laptop
[04:05] <bioss> thats whats there telling me
[04:05] <Oloughlin75> bioss: what sound card?
[04:06] <bioss> hda intel and it also says conexant on the audio tab
[04:06] <bioss> i have sound on the headphones
[04:07] <Dragnslcr> If the headphones work but the speakers don't, I'd guess that you have a channel muted in KMix or alsamixer
[04:07] <bioss> already check everithing is ok there
[04:09] <julio_Vzla> hola disculpen
[04:09] <bioss> hola julio
[04:09] <julio_Vzla> cual es el link para entrar al servidor en español
[04:09] <julio_Vzla> ?
[04:09] <Oloughlin75> !intelhdaudio | bioss
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intelhdaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <gangadjinn> and quick queation... is there anyy frontend for mounting images these days... Or do we have to stay to writing??
[04:10] <bioss> yes
[04:10] <julio_Vzla> bioss necesito la ayuda de alguien q maneje muy bn esta plataforma
[04:12] <bioss> no se mucho pero dime
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> descargue el limewire para esta plataforma
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> pero lo tengo en un archivo zip
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> y a lo q lo abro solo me salen unas carpetas
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> y no lo ejecuta
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> ni me aparecen un icono para utilizarlo
[04:14] <bioss> busca el adep package manager i busca zip y ya o usa ark
[04:14] <bioss> cual esta en utilities
[04:16] <julio_Vzla> ark
[04:16] <julio_Vzla> pero lo abro con eso y solo me abre las carpetas pero no lo ejecuta
[04:17] <hydrogen> !es | julio_Vzla
[04:17] <ubotu> julio_Vzla: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:17] <julio_Vzla> lo q sucede es q nunca habia trabajado con este sistema operativo
[04:18] <neul> hi yall
[04:19] <bioss> que quieres ejecutar ? si es exe no podras exepto en wine
[04:19] <mjponce> no hay mucha gente que participe en kubuntu-es
[04:20] <mjponce> por eso es que entran a este foro ubotu
[04:20] <Oloughlin75> mjponce: nadie habla español aquí, por favor, vaya al soportivo del #kubuntu-es
[04:20] <mjponce> i know about that rule.
[04:21] <neul> may I ask, what is the media player I can use for wmv files
[04:22] <bioss> codecs
[04:23] <neul> it's called "kvc" or something like that
[04:23] <bioss> there kaffaine works fine and mplayer
[04:23] <sd32> neul: vlc is good  to
[04:23] <mjponce> mi name is "nadie" Oloughlin
[04:23] <neul> vlc
[04:24] <mjponce> my name is "nadie" Oloughlin
[04:24] <neul> thanx sd32
[04:24] <Oloughlin75> neul: youll need w32codecs from !medibuntu to play wma in any player
[04:24] <sd32> neul: yw
[04:25] <bioss> theres the ticket!! codecs
[04:25] <bioss> search for automatix2 is really cool
[04:25] <neul> sd32 if u r a girl, you get a kiss, thanx
[04:26] <sd32> neul: male...thanks anyway
[04:26] <sd32> :-)
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> NO AUTOMATIX
[04:27] <neul> np
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> !automatix | bioss
[04:27] <ubotu> bioss: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:28] <mjponce> XD neul
[04:29] <neul> yes?
[04:29] <sd32> lol
[04:29] <mjponce> some girls use neutral nicks
[04:30] <mjponce> for no show gender
[04:30] <neul> that's a wise decision
[04:30] <bioss> thanx read the article
[04:32] <bioss> out bye to all !! see tomorrow
[04:32] <neul> i was just asking advice mj
[04:33] <neul> :)
[04:34] <mjponce> bye bioss
[04:35] <mjponce> yes ?
[04:36] <kickz> Hi all
[04:37] <kickz> what i need to play divx files in Kubungtu
[04:37] <kickz> Kubuntu
[04:37] <sd32> lol kubungtu
[04:38] <kickz> Lights off here, sorry.
[04:38] <sd32> !divx
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <neul> whee! I got it mj
[04:41] <neul> ty
[04:41] <neul> I almost came :)
[04:45] <mjponce> kickz, open your eyes =)
[04:49] <prince_jammys> kung-fu-tu
[04:53] <baudthief> is there an app for KDE that can display CPU temp, on a graph preferrably?
[04:55] <stdin> !sensors
[04:55] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:56] <intelikey> !karumba
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karumba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <sd32> Error: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto: SyntaxError: Parse error at line 2
[04:57] <prince_jammys> !superkaramba
[04:57] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:57] <prince_jammys> !info conky  | baudthief
[04:57] <ubotu> baudthief: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[05:00] <baudthief> prince_jammys: doesnt have CPU temp anywhere ;\
[05:00] <prince_jammys> baudthief: i thought it did
[05:00] <prince_jammys> baudthief: from a screenshot i saw.  i don't have it installed
[05:06] <baudthief> installed it, no CPU temp for some reason ;\
[05:06] <baudthief> come to think of it, prett much all apps I've tried will show everything but cpu temp!
[05:06] <prince_jammys> baudthief: i saw this http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[05:07] <mjponce> bye o/
[05:07] <baudthief> hmm maybe I need to restart or something
[05:08] <baudthief> (after installing the lm-sensors package)
[05:08] <baudthief> unusual... but woth a shot
[05:08] <intelikey> baudthief    heh.
[05:09] <intelikey> no he didn't need to restart.   why do people think that way ?
[05:09] <intelikey> never mind.  i know why.
[05:10] <sd32> intelikey: dont forget reinstalling also
[05:14] <intelikey> yeah. i know    just a shame that the mindset has been so skewed by M$
[05:14] <Oloughlin75> intelikey: yep
[05:19] <dushara> Anyone got IIIMF working?
[05:20] <sd32> is there an irc for the eee pc yet?
[05:24] <sd32> guess not yet because the lack of much of a repository
[05:36] <sigma_1234> !away
[05:36] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[05:37] <jblack007> is that for me?
[05:37] <sigma_1234> nope
[05:37] <jblack007> cos this is my first time here
[05:38] <jblack007> u mind if i can ask you how to go abt my way here?
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[05:40] <jblack007> !
[05:40] <intelikey> !welcome | jblack007
[05:40] <ubotu> jblack007: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:40] <intelikey> !ask | jblack007
[05:40] <ubotu> jblack007: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:41] <intelikey> !help | jblack007
[05:41] <ubotu> jblack007: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:41] <jblack007> thanks man
[05:41] <intelikey> welcome
[05:41] <intelikey> !topic | jblack007 one more.
[05:41] <ubotu> jblack007 one more.: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:42] <sivaji> i want to rename all the *.JPG to * jgp in /image dir  is it possible to do this with script
[05:43] <intelikey> for Q in /image dir/*.jpg ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done
[05:44] <sivaji> intelikey thanks i will try
[05:44] <intelikey> errr actually that may fail with spaces in the names.
[05:45] <intelikey> try this one.  echo "/image dir/*.jpg"  | while read Q ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done
[05:45] <jblack007> how can i get the command list in this IRC?
[05:46] <intelikey> /help
[05:47] <sivaji> intelikey its not working
[05:47] <NickPresta> alternatively, I came up with this: for x in *.JPG; do small=`echo $x | tr 'JPG' 'jpg'`; mv $x $small; done
[05:47] <NickPresta> I'm not sure if mine does what you want. It worked in my test case.
[05:47] <sivaji> NickPresta intelikey thanks a lot
[05:47] <sivaji> it works now
[05:48] <intelikey> NickPresta that only works in the same dir.
[05:48] <NickPresta> intelikey, indeed. It isn't recursive.
[05:48] <NickPresta> You could try this: http://www.linuxweblog.com/node/306
[05:49] <intelikey> NickPresta no i mean you have to be in the dir  i.e.  pwd only.      echo /image\ dir/*.jpg | while read Q ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done
[05:49] <skar> hi, i'm running konsole and it runs sh->dash instead of bash, is there a way to tell konsole to run bash from now on?
[05:49] <intelikey> i just checked that,   it will work ^
[05:50] <intelikey> skar change the symlink
[05:50] <intelikey>  /bin/sh is only a symlink  you can point it at any posix compliant shell
[05:50] <NickPresta> intelikey, oh. `for x in /image/*.JPG; do small=`echo $x | tr 'JPG' 'jpg'`; mv $x $small; done` works for me when called from a different dir
[05:51] <intelikey> not with spaces in the name NickPresta
[05:51] <skar> intelikey: well, even then the prompt line is "sh-3.2#", while for another user's login its "root@runner:~#", how do i get the user@host:cwd type of prompt?
[05:51] <intelikey> have to quote your vars.
[05:52] <intelikey> skar that has nothing to do with shell    that the prompt   is that all you are interested in ?     export PS1="what ever you want here"
[05:52] <NickPresta> intelikey, yes, I forgot :)
[05:52] <NickPresta> intelikey, oh well. It's late and I'm tired. That's my excuse anyways
[05:53] <intelikey> and a good one it is. :)
[05:53] <skar> intelikey: hmm i wonder why one user has this prompt, while another doesn't?!?!
[05:53] <NickPresta> heh. I think I'm going to sleep. 0100 here. Goodnight all.
[05:55] <intelikey> skar ~/.profile ~/.bash_bashrc ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc  /etc/profile /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/bashrc and /etc/passwd   can all affect that.
[05:55] <skar> intelikey: thanks, am looking into that area :)
[05:55] <intelikey> shalom NickPresta
[05:56] <intelikey> skar you should check the last first.   if the shell is the same they should start reding the other files the same.
[05:56] <intelikey> if not they wont.
[05:57] <intelikey> that sentance no verb.
[05:57] <intelikey> ???
[05:57] <skar> intelikey: wow /etc/passwd was the problem, changed the shell to /bin/bash and it fixed the problem
[05:58] <intelikey> you're welcome.
[06:02] <draik> How do I remove the loading splash screen?
[06:03] <dthacker-work> Hi, I'm trying to mount an external USB HD.   After I tell kubuntu to open device in new window, nothing happens, how can I troubleshoot and mount?
[06:03] <glimbo> goto system settings then splash screen and then select none
[06:03] <draik> glimbo: I want to remove it.
[06:03] <glimbo> oh sorry
[06:04] <glimbo> lol
[06:04] <draik> I know its in the /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I forgot what needs to be added.
[06:04] <pushax> has Kubuntu got Openwall built into its kernel?
[06:04] <intelikey> draik nosplash
[06:04] <draik> intelikey: Thank you
[06:04] <draik> Wasn't there something about the frame buffer?
[06:06] <dthacker-work> ok, I told kubuntu to handle umounted external devices with konq:  now I get this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[06:07] <intelikey> draik if you want to prevent fbcon from hosing your consoles   vga={normal|0x0f05|0x0f04} <any of those "should" do that.
[06:10] <intelikey> all i'll see for the next several minutes is  [17188526.728000] Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 817
[06:10] <intelikey> [17188528.304000] Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 818
[06:11] <dthacker-work> offers intelikey his condolences. "it was a good drive"
[06:11] <intelikey> still is.   bad disk.
[06:11] <draik> I'm getting 960.0 kB/s (average) of a transfer rate from my external hdd to my laptop. Does this seem right?
[06:12] <pawan_> what is kde 4
[06:12] <dthacker-work> hmmm, this is a well known error.  wonder if it was fixed in gutsy.   I'll try the gutsy laptop.
[06:12] <dthacker-work> !kde4
[06:12] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[06:12] <intelikey> i tried to pull a image off cd with dd and forgot that it had that stupid propritary anti-copying holes burned in it....
[06:13] <dthacker-work> Is that how MS keeps me from backing up my Age of Empires CD?
[06:13] <intelikey> yep
[06:14] <intelikey> "bastards"
[06:14] <dthacker-work> frack: gutsy has same error.  Boo!   off to the forums
[06:16] <draik> Should a 38GB file transfer take 12 hours?
[06:17] <intelikey> depends on the interface.  but generally   no.
[06:17] <draik> External HDD to laptop.
[06:17] <mrunagi> !flash
[06:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:17] <draik> via USB
[06:17] <intelikey> usb1.0 or 2.x ?
[06:17] <draik> 2
[06:18] <intelikey> more like 2 hours max   best i can tell
[06:18] <draik> :(
[06:18] <intelikey> so 10x what you're getting.
[06:18] <pawan_> hi
[06:18] <pawan_> how to change resolution
[06:19] <intelikey> !fixrez
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <draik> !resolution
[06:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:19] <intelikey> !fixres
[06:19] <intelikey> that seems to be what i meant
[06:20] <draik> Seems about right
[06:20] <draik> intelikey: I'm getting a transfer rate of about 960.0 kB/s
[06:21] <bobby> does anyone know why i get a
[06:21] <pawan_> i want to cahnge to 1024by 768
[06:21] <draik> Range is from 940 to 981 kB/s    :(
[06:21] <bobby> "ghosting" around the menus? i'm using compiz, and it displays this garbage between the menu and the shadow
[06:21] <draik> !fixres | pawan_
[06:21] <ubotu> pawan_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:22] <draik> !compiz | bobby
[06:22] <ubotu> bobby: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:22] <mrunagi> compiz is buggy with kde
[06:22] <intelikey> draik http://www.usb.org/about/usb_nomenclature
[06:23] <pawan_> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[06:23] <pawan_> [sudo] password for pawan:
[06:23] <pawan_>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}
[06:24] <liranh> hi to all
[06:24] <liranh> any one can help me with some tech prob - or maybe reffer me to the right channel to discuss it ?
[06:24] <intelikey> !ask
[06:24] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:25] <draik> How sad, I don't even get a meg per second on the rate.
[06:26] <draik> woohoo, I just reached 2%
[06:26] <liranh> i'm trying to install wine on Kubuntu 7.10 and i get this error line - Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:26] <intelikey> draik yeah makes me think that something is not configured/enabled/supported correctly there.
[06:27] <liranh> after that i get another line  - Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:27] <draik> intelikey: Where should I begin to look?
[06:27] <intelikey> draik dmesg prolly
[06:27] <pushax> has anyone got their address list in firefox to sort by visit date?
[06:28] <intelikey> draik from there maybe hdparm ?   not sure.
[06:28] <intelikey> liranh sudo apt-get install wine
[06:28] <liranh> i didt that
[06:28] <liranh> did*
[06:28] <intelikey> !wine | liranh
[06:28] <ubotu> liranh: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:29] <intelikey> also #wine-hq i think is the official channel for wine     or maybe no dasn just #winehq i don't recall
[06:30] <liranh> another n00b Q : how do i change/add channel ?
[06:30] <draik> intelikey: Thanks for your help. I work tomorrow morning. I might let the transfer start in the morning while I'm off to work.
[06:30] <intelikey> /join #channel_of_your_choice
[06:30] <synaptik> liranh-- you might also need to install wine-config
[06:31] <liranh> i think my prob goes far from that - i get a messege that says i need to check my $DISPLAY
[06:31] <intelikey> draik yeah on things that take 'for ever and a day' i normally appoint them a time when i'm not there.
[06:31] <synaptik> oh i see. did not read that closely. :)
[06:33] <intelikey> liranh if you stated correctly "<liranh> i'm trying to install wine on Kubuntu 7.10 and i get this error"  sudo apt-get install wine should "NOT" need to open any window.
[06:34] <liranh> i entered thta line before i tried to run the winecfg command and it was ok
[06:34] <intelikey> errr unless you call it from k's quick launch  'alt+f2'  then it would..
[06:35] <jeffobazoni> hello?
[06:35] <jeffobazoni> hey, do any of you guys think the Qt theme is ugly?
[06:35] <intelikey> ok  trying to install != trying to configure.    two entirely different things.   and yes winecfg will need to open a window.
[06:35] <liranh> well i typed it again (the apt-get line) and got this messege : wine is already the newest version.
[06:35] <intelikey> liranh are you trying this from within xorg or not ?
[06:36] <liranh> i dont know whats xorg is (well i kinda know but i didnt touch it yet)
[06:36]  * jeffobazoni is asking a question, dude
[06:36] <intelikey> jeffobazoni never seen it personally
[06:36] <jeffobazoni> you know, the Kubuntu button theme thing
[06:37] <intelikey> !xorg | liranh
[06:37] <jeffobazoni> and Kwin
[06:37] <ubotu> liranh: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:37] <jeffobazoni> nobody?
[06:37] <intelikey> jeffobazoni no actually i don't.
[06:37] <jeffobazoni> is this not the Kubuntu channel?
[06:38] <intelikey> jeffobazoni yes.  does that require everyone to use kde ?
[06:38] <intelikey> :)
[06:38] <jeffobazoni> no...
[06:38] <bobby> haha
[06:39] <bobby> it's been said i'm not patient
[06:39] <intelikey> bobby did you ask something ?
[06:39] <bobby> not today no :)
[06:40] <intelikey> claydoh:   referance to liranh ?
[06:40] <intelikey> oh ^
[06:40] <bobby> well i did, but didnt realize i couldnt ask compiz questions here... they're not too chatty over there though.
[06:40] <intelikey> claydoh:  referance to liranh ?
[06:40] <intelikey> oh,
[06:41] <intelikey> i can't figure out why if i type oh, and then other text it completes to claydoh: but if just   oh,  it doesn't.
[06:42] <bobby> reference to jeffobazoni if you're talking to me.
[06:42] <intelikey> well you can ask compiz questions here.  but you are not very likely to get them answered here.
[06:43] <intelikey> yeah i was.     didn't notice that he dropped out at the same time as the guy i was talking to     err the other guy i was talking to ...
[06:43] <chee> I'm trying to add a program to the Kmenu. I want one button to run 2 programs at once, whats the command for that? ./dynamips & ./gns3 ?
[06:44] <bobby> ok well i guess i'll try again. I'm finding on the right and bottom sides of menus there's a bit of "garbage" or "ghosting" around it, between the menu and shadow. I wanted to know how to get rid of that.
[06:44] <intelikey> chee that will background the first and run the second;  yes.
[06:44] <GSF1200S> chee: what programs scripts are you trying to run
[06:44] <GSF1200S> you can connect bash commands with &&
[06:45] <chee> I want to run 2 programs, dynamips and gns3 together at same time
[06:45] <intelikey> GSF1200S that would be sequential and conditional
[06:45] <GSF1200S> yeah
[06:45] <intelikey> chee yes background the first and call the second
[06:45] <GSF1200S> i didnt realize that.. :)
[06:47] <intelikey> sequential non-conditional would be   blah ; blah    sequential conditional  blah && blah2   and  blah || blah2   the first runs blah2 only if blah ends with exit code 0 the second only if it doesn't     and   blah & blah2   will run blah in the background and blah2 in the forground
[06:48] <chee> thats too many steps
[06:48] <chee> er. maybe not
[06:48] <chee> but i just needed to know what goes in the 'command' part of the shortcut
[06:48] <intelikey> that's four desctiprions of your options.
[06:49] <chee> but i got the answer and it works. thanks
[06:49]  * chee thinks intelikey is smart
[06:51] <intelikey> echo oh & { sleep 3 ; echo boo ; } && { sleep 2 ; ls ; } || echo ooops     <<< uses them all.
[06:51] <loslalfos> intelikey: i already know what you wrote above. what i'd like to know if it's possible to make if ... then ... else ... via command line alone...
[06:51] <intelikey>                   ^           see
[06:52] <chee> my last question for the night is how can i config interfaces so they stay that way after reboot? ifconfig eth0 192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up - goes away after reboot
[06:52] <intelikey> more usable example#   grep -q PS1 ~/.profile && echo yes || echo no
[06:53] <intelikey> chee put the static addressing in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:54] <chee> good thanks a lot intelikey
[06:54] <intelikey> welcome
[06:55] <intelikey> loslalfos it is also possable to use the "if blah ;then blah ;else blah ;fi" statement  yes...    but  "blah && blah || blah" is shorter
[06:56] <butch> hi I need help on mounting a ntfs disk
[06:56] <intelikey> !ntfs | butch
[06:56] <butch> fdisk -l doesnt work
[06:56] <ubotu> butch: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[06:56] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[06:56] <intelikey> or cat /proc/partitions
[06:57] <butch> duh had to use sudo
[06:57] <butch> <---dummy
[06:57] <butch> lol
[06:57] <butch> thx intelli
[06:58] <intelikey> actually you shouldn't have to.  but the ubuntu use of udev permissions does make it so that you often do have to.
[06:58] <intelikey> they even had /dev/null only writable by root at one point
[06:58]  * intelikey considers that a bug.
[06:59] <butch> ok I need to install ntfs3g
[06:59] <butch> agreed
[06:59] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[06:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:59] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g
[06:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:59] <butch> iu just apt-get
[06:59] <intelikey> yep
[07:00] <butch> cat /proc/filesystems   doesnt show ntfs
[07:00] <butch> ??
[07:00] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions
[07:00] <butch> Setting ntfs-3g suid root with group fuse...done
[07:00] <butch> Users from 'fuse' group can now mount NTFS volume.
[07:01] <intelikey> partitions not filesystems   /proc/filesystems shows what fs's are currently supported through modules inserted into the kernel
[07:01] <loslalfos> intelikey: thank you! have been away for a few minutes...
[07:01] <intelikey> on the cat command ^
[07:02] <intelikey> loslalfos welcome
[07:04] <liranh> well i'm back
[07:05] <loslalfos> intelikey: i was just wondering about this "issue" because the other day somebody else was very convinced that there is no "else" way on the command line. what can i say...
[07:07] <liranh> my previous prob still exist
[07:07] <intelikey> loslalfos tell them to test this# if grep -q PS1 ~/.profile ;then echo "ps1 set in ~/.profile" ;else echo "no ps1 not set in ~/.profile" ;fi
[07:08] <intelikey> by default PS1 is not set in your user profile  but it can be set there. with an export PS1='something' dirrective
[07:09] <intelikey> liranh are you trying this from within xorg or not ?
[07:09] <liranh> anyone can tell me whats $DISPLAY means ?
[07:09] <intelikey> yep means nothing until it's set
[07:10] <liranh> no - i didnt touched the xorg.conf file
[07:10] <intelikey> that's not what i'm asking.
[07:10] <intelikey> are you running xorg ?
[07:10] <intelikey> is xorg running ?
[07:11] <butch> thx intelli drive is working
[07:11] <liranh> how do i check if its running ?
[07:11] <intelikey> liranh sorry. i can't help you.
[07:12] <liranh> its ok - thanks for trying. i know that my almost 0 knowledge in linux is making it hard to help me
[07:12] <intelikey> maybe someone with a more "pointy clicky thingy" mentality can.
[07:12] <intelikey> !xorg
[07:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
 The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. <<< i.e.  the "pointy clicky thingy"    if you use "pointy clicky thingy"  then xorg is running.
[07:14] <intelikey> if you type command for all that you do,  and there is no "window (tm)" on your screen,  then chances are that it's not inside of xorg.
[07:17] <slop> i have a problem: adept notifier keeps telling me i have an update.  when i get the update, it says update complete, but the adept notifier is still there. when i click it again, it gets the same update, then tells me its complete...and the process continues. NOTE: i've already done 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[07:17] <liranh> well i'm writing to you from within my PC that runs Kubuntu - and if you mean that "poity clicky thingy" is the GUI then yea its running
[07:17] <intelikey> if you move the mouse around and, there is not a visable mouse pointer on the screen.   then it's likely not inside of xorg.     or if there is one but it is a large white block the size of "all" other charictors on the screen,  then it's probably not inside of xorg.     anything else   then just say "yes"
[07:17] <intelikey> ok it is withing xorg that you are typing the command and recieving the error message.    good.  now i can move to the next step.
[07:18] <liranh> ok i think i got it now - yea i'm in xorg
[07:18] <intelikey> type in the konsole inside of xorg this command and tell me what it says back to you#     echo 1$DISPLAY
[07:20] <intelikey> konsole == the terminal emulator that looks like the "dos prompt (tm) screen" in that other os
[07:20] <liranh> it gives back - 1
[07:20] <intelikey> ok.
[07:20] <intelikey> tyep in this#   export DISPLAY=':0' ; winecfg
[07:21] <intelikey> type ^
[07:21] <liranh> gives me the same error
[07:21] <intelikey> display the error message here
[07:22] <intelikey> you can "left click highlight" and "middle click paste"
[07:22] <liranh> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:22] <liranh> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded
[07:22] <liranh> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[07:22] <liranh> sorry there another line
[07:22] <liranh> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:22] <intelikey> liranh ok that's not the same error message.    you were getting "$DISPLAY not set"
[07:23] <intelikey> liranh is that on kde4 by any chance ?
[07:23] <liranh> no - its on kde
[07:23] <intelikey> ok
[07:24] <intelikey> are you in a second instance of kde ?    i.e. used the switch users option ?
[07:25] <liranh> i dont think so - i've restarted the machine several time so i guess not
[07:26] <liranh> but at the first time i entered this PC there was another user logged on
[07:26] <intelikey> you can press# alt+ctrl+f7   to find out.   if it changes anything then "yes" if not then "no"   and if it changes anything then    alt+ctrl+f8   to switch back  or f9 depending on how many sub servers deep you ar
[07:27] <liranh> when i pressed ctrl+alt+F7 - nothing happend, when i pressed with F8 it changed the screen
[07:27] <intelikey> another way to test. type in this#   export DISPLAY=':0.1' ; winecfg
[07:29] <liranh> when i typed "export DISPLAY=':0.1' ; winecfg" - i got this : Xlib: connection to ":0.1" refused by server
[07:29] <liranh> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:31] <intelikey> liranh yes what you found with   ctrl+alt+f8   was probably the leftover bootup messages in tty8    ubuntu linux has 6 login consoles (tty[1-6]) and one grapthical server in tty7  avtive by default   and you can activate up to 255 of them.
[07:31] <liranh> well how do i close all of them ? - hardreset maybe ?
[07:32] <intelikey> liranh one other thing i want you to check, type in#   ps aux | grep -v grep | grep ':0'
[07:33] <liranh> i got alot of output from that
[07:33] <intelikey> liranh you don't want to.    if you even need to fix xorg because it wont run how will you do that without a tty ?   and they are not permiscuos
[07:33] <intelikey> liranh don't show us.
[07:34] <liranh> ok - so what should i look for in that output ?
[07:34] <intelikey> anyone else around that might know why he's getting a connection error....
[07:34] <intelikey> oh wait.
[07:34] <intelikey> i know why
[07:34] <intelikey> you are in a "root" shell
[07:34] <intelikey> exit
[07:35] <liranh> ok
[07:35] <werner_> hi
[07:35] <liranh> i'm out of root
[07:35] <intelikey> you can't connect form another user.
[07:35] <intelikey> now run the     winecfg
[07:35] <intelikey> or even      sudo winecfg      if you need too.
[07:35] <liranh> OMG !!!!!!!!!! - its working
[07:36] <liranh> you are one hell of a guy
[07:36] <westy> is this support for ps3 kubuntu too?
[07:36] <liranh> or gal - whatever
[07:36] <liranh> like i said i'm just a beginner and that is definently a n00b error
[07:37] <intelikey> westy if anyone here can help you with it they probably will.
[07:37] <liranh> and to think i spend like 2 hours on that
[07:37] <intelikey> liranh yeah it was almost so "obvious" that i over looked it.
[07:40] <author> hrm hi everyone.  third time ive installed kubuntu 7.10 (or so i thought).  things are going swimmingly finally but when i use adept to try to update it says a package (the updated kernel) would break the system; it cancels the update but says theres a version upgrade available.  now dist-upgrade.py has *zero* activity, and the version upgrade is stalled at Installing the upgrades: 0%.  second time this has happened.  any ideas on
[07:40] <author> how to bypass this?  (for the record, the CD *is* kubuntu 7.10, the version to upgrade to is 7.10, and my ubuntu 7.10 works flawlessly)
[07:40] <westy> okay the question i have is i just downloaded the kubuntu gutsy gibbon and at the kboot i hit enter and it shows this---get memory ranges1 modified cmdline:root=label=/ file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed quiet -- and it shows disconnect on all usb drives and dergistered on all drives also
[07:40] <westy> and it just sits there and does nothing
[07:40] <liranh> well thanks for all the help - i'm off to subottage my system ;)
[07:40] <liranh> bye
[07:40] <author> peace, liranh
[07:41] <westy> i had gentoo on there but really like kubuntu but looks like i have to go back to gentoo
[07:42] <westy> unless there's an explanation why i have a bugged copy
[07:42] <westy> if its bugged in the first place
[07:44] <intelikey> author i think if you check the forums that's a known and well documented bug.
[07:45] <author> doi thank you...sry O:-)
[07:47] <intelikey> westy sounds like it can't find it's own butt with both hands...
[07:47] <westy> hmm what would be the cause of that?
[07:47] <intelikey> i mean the cd's initramfs can't find the cd
[07:47] <westy> lol
[07:48] <westy> thats retarted
[07:49] <westy> so in other words the official cd of kubuntu is broken in other words
[07:49] <westy> thats for ps3 i mean
[07:49] <westy> not for pc
[07:50] <author> intelikey: afraid i didnt see any threads though im sure im missing it, but running it from console (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and working fine so far.  better get off this app before it updates :-P
[07:50] <author> ty for your help, have a good day/night
[07:50] <intelikey> yeah i'd say that pretty well sums is up.    it's not easy to make an initramfs that will fit into ram at boot time and can do all things for all people
[07:50] <vijay> hi every1
[07:51] <westy> well damnit that sux
[07:51] <intelikey> last time i checked the initramfs was like 6g compressed
[07:52] <westy> god
[07:52] <intelikey> westy could a net install work for you ?
[07:53] <intelikey> !install
[07:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:53] <vijay> can any 1 tell me "how to disable data compression in cdma modem" ?
[07:54] <westy> this is a couple more things out of that boot thing
[07:54] <westy> ps3-ohci-driver sb_06 remove state 1
[07:54] <loslalfos> intelikey: i'd like to do an install on an old computer which can only boot via diskettes. i'd like to do a netinstall like debian provides...
[07:55] <westy> usb usb4: usb disconnect, address 1
[07:55] <intelikey> loslalfos have a look at the page ubotu mentioned ^
[07:56] <loslalfos> intelikey: of course not. i'm unable to stretch time yet. ;)
[07:56] <westy> then shows ps3-ehci-driver sb_03 and 04 and 05 usb bus 1 deregisterd
[07:57] <westy> just thought i'd post that maybe someone had the same problem i having.. might try another cd but thats a BIG DAMN MIGHT lol
[07:57] <studente> hi aòll
[07:57] <studente> hi all*
[07:57] <loslalfos> but the pages i read so far where about old versions of ubuntu. maybe i should rephrase it to: i wish there were an *officially* supported netinstall for ubuntu like debian has. ;)
[07:58] <loslalfos> like debian has=like debian has for debian :D
[07:58] <westy> how old your computer los?
[07:58] <intelikey> loslalfos that's why i pointed at the link ^
[07:59] <dhq> mounting "aufs on union failed": no such device
[07:59] <westy> what you could do is maybe a sshd on another distro
[07:59] <westy> and do net install that way
[07:59] <westy> if that works on ubuntu
[07:59] <loslalfos> intelikey: yeah, i should stop complaining and start reading, right? ;)
[08:00] <jesse> Hello.
[08:00] <westy> hey jesse
[08:00] <HTML-insane> Lo there.
[08:00] <jesse> Does anyone here know Compiz-fusion well... with Kubuntu?
[08:00] <HTML-insane> I got Compiz Fusion working on Feisty yesterday...
[08:00] <jesse> Because I can't seem to get it to work.
[08:00] <HTML-insane> How convenient.
[08:00] <jesse> I'm on Gutsy.
[08:00] <HTML-insane> Ah, well that might be the problem...
[08:01] <jesse> I'm a little Linux-tarded.
[08:01] <HTML-insane> I couldn't get it to work on Gutsy.
[08:01] <HTML-insane> Just google, "Compiz gutsy" and look round.
[08:01] <jesse> I just reinstalled Kubuntu for the third time because I screwed something up trying to run Compiz.
[08:02] <HTML-insane> Oh, and if the menubars don't show, you should type into the, "run" dialogue: "kde-window-decorator", or if you have it, "emerald --replace".
[08:03] <westy> http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/upgrade_to_ubuntu_gutsy_with_compizfusion/
[08:03] <westy> try that
[08:03] <jesse> Yeah, but I have a habit of doing something wrong and then I can't type anything into the run dialog.
[08:03] <HTML-insane> Ah, I see what you mean...
[08:03] <HTML-insane> well, try the link. It might be better then what I can tell you, which is go to Feisty.
[08:04] <jesse> And then I go to restart, and I type in my log-in, and the desktop doesn't load.
[08:04] <jesse> That's why I had to reinstall. lol
[08:04] <jesse> Because I couldn't get in.
[08:04] <jesse> I really need to get a separate laptop to run Linux on.
[08:05] <jesse> I have a feeling I'm going to eventually do something that'll screw up my Windows side, too.
[08:05] <westy> thats easy just dont screw nothing up and dont touch that partiton
[08:05] <westy> lol
[08:05] <jesse> lol
[08:06] <jesse> Wait. This is an off topic room?  I just looked at the top of my Konversation window.
[08:06] <jesse> :facepalm:
[08:06] <HTML-insane> All I see is, "#kubuntu".
[08:06] <jesse> Oh.
[08:06] <jesse> Nevermind.
[08:06] <westy> even if you do screw it up 9 times out of 10 its something easy to fix if you screw up the windows partition ie:defrag before partition is a must
[08:06] <jesse> That appears to be a link bar.
[08:07] <westy> unless you wipe it out lol
[08:07] <HTML-insane> Ew, I used to have a windowz partition...
[08:07] <westy> its more like winblowz
[08:07] <intelikey> i used to have a partition
[08:07] <jesse> The reinstalling Kubuntu doesn't bother me all that much.  It's the fact that unetbootin doesn't store a copy of the iso it used for the previous installation.
[08:08] <jesse> But, at least it isn't Wubi.
[08:08] <jesse> I couldn't stand Wubi.
[08:08] <westy> i have to have a winblowz partition cuz the ol' lade dont know how to use linux gentoo
[08:08] <westy> lol
[08:08] <westy> so i have vmware installed for here
[08:08] <westy> bla good thing i have 4gigs of memory
[08:08] <westy> lmao
[08:09] <westy> for her**
[08:09] <jesse> What exactly is wmware?  Does it install Linux for real or does it install a virtual Linux like Wubi does?
[08:09] <HTML-insane> I think it's a virtual machine.
[08:09] <westy> yeah
[08:09] <jesse> Blech.
[08:09] <HTML-insane> Anyway, you can make restore points in the command line...
[08:09] <westy> either used on winddows or linux or mac
[08:10] <HTML-insane> Let me check.
[08:10] <westy> its emulated off of a ibm computer i belieive
[08:10] <intelikey> westy my mother was 60 when she got her first computer.   it had win98 on it.   i installed mdk9.0 when it came out and switched her over.   she never has complained about it.
[08:10] <westy> damn
[08:10] <westy> thats crazy
[08:10] <westy> lol
[08:10] <jesse> As far as I know, what I use installs a non-virtual Linux.
[08:11] <jesse> It does partitions.
[08:11] <author> hi all.  fully updated system, latest stable, just installed and updated.  try to mount my windoze drives to access my mp3s and get hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000.  open systemsettings, go to user admin, click Administrator Mode..., put in my password and it returns without putting me in admin mode.  close, run sudo systemsettings, add "disk" to my user's permissions.  i even *restart* my comp.  same hal error.
[08:11] <author> any ideas on either the problem with admin mode or the hal drive access permission?
[08:11] <pushax> lamer quesiton.   how do you install a .KIT file?  I downlaoded password gorilla and it's in a kit form for linux.
[08:11] <intelikey> author known bug,  known fix.
[08:12] <author> gah im sorry again.  ill find the url itself but what *site* should i look at?
[08:12] <author> myself*
[08:12] <intelikey> !bug
[08:12] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[08:12] <HTML-insane> Yeah, to stop from having to reinstall every time you muck up, got to the directory, "/etc/X11" (the X is a capital!)
[08:13] <jesse> Wait. What exactly do I do?
[08:13] <jesse> With the X11?
[08:13] <jesse> Is there a command or something?
[08:13] <HTML-insane> Yes.
[08:13] <HTML-insane> In the command line, type, "cd /etc/X11".
[08:13] <jesse> Seriously?  It's that simple?
[08:13] <HTML-insane> Yes.
[08:13] <jesse> Holy crap.
[08:13] <HTML-insane> The command line is really easy.
[08:13] <jesse> :facepalm:
[08:14] <intelikey> jesse  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  is the command to reconfigure your xserver
[08:14] <HTML-insane> "cd" for, "change directory".
[08:14] <jesse> No. I meant is that all I really have to do to fix the problem.
[08:14] <jesse> I know what cd means.
[08:14] <HTML-insane> Oh, no.
[08:14] <HTML-insane> Not finished yet.
[08:14] <HTML-insane> When you're in that directory, type, "cp ./xorg.conf ./xorg.conf1"
[08:15] <westy> thats will save a backup for you
[08:15] <HTML-insane> Then, whenever the GUI doesn't load, you can go to /etc/X11 in the command line and type, "cp ./xorg.conf1 ./xorg.conf"
[08:15] <intelikey> jesse  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  is the command to reconfigure your xserver <<< if you can remember that command you can always fix your xserver.    using the "vesa" driver when prompted will get you a working xorg on almost all hardware.
[08:15] <HTML-insane> It's like a windows restore point that you can access in the command line.
[08:16]  * intelikey was finnished in one command.
[08:16] <jesse> That is so fucking simply brilliant.
[08:16] <jesse> Oops. Sorry for the language.
[08:16] <westy> lmao
[08:16] <jesse> lol
[08:17] <HTML-insane> :p
[08:18] <jesse> I mean, come one.  That makes total and complete sense.
[08:18] <jesse> come on*
[08:18] <HTML-insane> Exactly.
[08:18] <HTML-insane> That's what you're given the command line for. :p
[08:19] <intelikey> HTML-insane you do realize that specifying the path would work in one command.   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup   <<<< backup   restore >>>> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:19] <intelikey> just a thought.
[08:20] <jesse> Wait. One more question.  When you type change the path, does the original path remain as a file? Does ./xorg.conf remain there?
[08:21] <HTML-insane> Yeah, I realise that, but for the people that can't be bothered remembering the directories, or otherwise like to use midnight commander...
[08:21] <intelikey> if you cp (cp == copy) it does.  if you mv (mv == move) it doesn't
[08:21]  * intelikey uses mc !
[08:21] <intelikey> :)
[08:21] <HTML-insane> There you go then :p
[08:22] <intelikey> what newB'z need to learn is tab-completion
[08:22] <intelikey> !tab
[08:22] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:25] <Agent_bob> intelikey is dead.    long live intelikey!
[08:25] <jesse> Okay.... So... the command "cd /etc/X11 cp ./xorg.conf ./xorg.conf1" should be done BEFORE I mess with compiz.  And then if I screw up, I just log into Failsafe mode and enter "cd /etc/X11 cp ./xorg.conf1 ./xorg.conf"
[08:25] <author> intelikey: regarding the admin mode button on systemsettings, im seeing one bug report with no real solution.  yes, i can run it from console with sudo but seriously i need a solution, not a workaround!
[08:25] <jesse> Right?
[08:28] <author> mmk intelikey appears to be gone...might anyone else be able to assist me with either issue?  :(
[08:28] <Agent_bob> author i'm sorry.  maybe i misread you eariler.   thought you were asking about the bug with bug in the update manager. showing updates when there are none.   "now dist-upgrade.py has *zero* activity, and the version upgrade is stalled at Installing the upgrades: 0%."
[08:29] <author> i worked around that by running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from konsole
[08:29] <Agent_bob> ok then i don't recall pointing you at another bug report ???
[08:30] <author> you didnt, you said known bug known fix i think
[08:30] <author> regarding the admin mode button
[08:30] <intelikey> that was about the update manager
[08:30] <intelikey> sorry for any confusion.
[08:31] <author> ugh, ok.  im sorry if i was unclear.  shall we start over?
[08:31] <intelikey> lets
[08:31] <author> hehe
[08:31] <author> ok sec to type
[08:33] <dthacker-work> I need more coffee
[08:33] <intelikey> "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000."  <<<   i think that's a known bug too.  but i could be wrong about it.     seems like it's something to do with not being in the right group or something.
[08:34] <intelikey> i don't use hal so i have not the foggiest
[08:34] <dthacker-work> intelikey: I installed ntfs-config, then I did a force mount at the command line.  Not pretty, but effective
[08:34] <author> thats what i thought too - i added myself to the "disk" group, which was teh only existing one i saw that seemed relevant other than hal-daemon which i assume is incorrect (or is it?) and it had no effect
[08:35] <intelikey> hal-daemon is probably it
[08:35] <ubuntu> mmm se puede hablar en español aqui?
[08:35] <dthacker-work> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[08:35] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[08:35] <author> but but but....  i assumed that was regarding controlling the hal daemon.  gah!
[08:36] <intelikey> but but but... maybe it's reguarding what hald controls insted
[08:36] <author> hehe
[08:36] <author> oh DUH disk is for floppy disks...aka linux 101
[08:37] <author> i forgot cuz i havent used a floppy drive on linux in a LONG time :-P
[08:37] <intelikey> is it disk   or disks ?
[08:37] <author> disk :-P
[08:38] <intelikey> vely intelesting
[08:38] <author> call it the demise of linux but there should be a way to add comments in /etc/groups (is that it?) that can be interpreted as tooltips :-P
[08:38] <dthacker-work> author: is this an external disk?
[08:39] <author> dthacker-work: nope, internal sata-ii
[08:39] <author> ...that windows thinks is removable
[08:39] <intelikey> dthacker-work it's the   hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000   error
[08:39] <dthacker-work> do you know the device?
[08:39] <author>  /dev/sda, im trying to access...erm i dont know the partition number, i can check if you liek
[08:39] <dthacker-work> yes, I had that earlier tonight in different circumstances
[08:40] <ubuntu> Nobody answer in the other 2 channels, the spanish ones, maybe its because they are sleeping, anyway, i need some help, im new in GNU/linux
[08:40] <cafka> i am trying to mount /dev/sda7 but i get this.. mount: can't find /dev/sda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab??
[08:40] <ubuntu> im trying to install in my machine
[08:40] <author> cafka you must specify where to mount it to
[08:40] <author> mkdir ~/sda7; sudo mount /dev/sda7 ~/sda7
[08:40] <intelikey> cafka   sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[08:41] <ubuntu> ooops
[08:41] <author> erm that wont work thatll mount it to a non-existent dir in /root :-P
[08:41] <dthacker-work> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601210   is a hal thread
[08:41] <intelikey> ubuntu continue.
[08:41] <intelikey> author actually no.  that will work.
[08:42] <intelikey> author the tild is expanded by the shell before sudo ever sees it
[08:42] <author> intelikey: good point, though i would bet theres a shell out there that wont replace it until after the sudo :-P
[08:42] <ubuntu> ok i have a little trouble setting up the partitions because i dont know anything about it just know that i reserved a space (with no partitioning) to install linux but i dont know what kind and space of partition to make
[08:43] <author> intelikey: its "better" to put the dir in /media or /mnt anyway, i just always forget about 'em
[08:43] <intelikey> author it's like using this to fix ownership problems#  sudo chown -R $USER $HOME
[08:44] <author> intelikey: wow, thats either lazy or brilliant, depending on your view.  :-P
[08:44] <intelikey> that's a generic that should always work
[08:44] <dthacker-work> lazy *is* brilliant.   Larry Wall says so.
[08:44] <author> probably help if i knew who that was
[08:45] <dthacker-work> The author of perl
[08:45] <author> btw the admin mode button is mysteriously working i *think*
[08:45] <intelikey> lazy works harder to keep from working than diligent does working
[08:45] <author> ah.  nice ^.^ i know richard stallman and linus torvalds, thats about it
[08:45] <author> true
[08:46] <intelikey> dthacker-work perl  </gag>
[08:47] <dthacker-work> perl is just one thing on my trusty utility belt.    and I should get back on topic.
[08:49] <intelikey> ubuntu linux needs about 4+ gig of unpartitioned space to install     the installer (ubiquity)  will help you set it up when the time comes.
[08:50] <intelikey> dthacker-work oh come on,  stay OT for a while.  we have a little fun around here while the ops sleep.
[08:50] <author> erm the thread says the workaround for the hal issue is to add policykit to the system.  im not seeing policykit in adept, and i even *feels smart for a very very tired person* enabled third-party repos and fetched updates (community/unsupported repos were already on)
[08:50] <ubuntu> ok, thanks im going to see what happens
[08:50] <intelikey> !find policykit
[08:51] <ubotu> Package/file policykit does not exist in gutsy
[08:51] <author> ouch
[08:51] <intelikey> the bot isn't finding it either.
[08:51] <author> so i saw :-P
[08:51] <intelikey> !find policykit dapper
[08:51] <pinepain> hi, what is comand name to show kde settings dialog
[08:51] <ubotu> Package/file policykit does not exist in dapper
[08:51] <intelikey> pinepain kcontrol
[08:52] <pinepain> intelikey thx
[08:52] <author> ah it appears that it may not have been debianized yet
[08:52] <dthacker-work> author: halfway through that thread there is a tip on opening Dolphin, selecting media and the unclicking mount as usr
[08:52] <author> from some random forums: "
[08:52] <author> Is there any
[08:52] <author>  information on when policykit is going to be debianised?
[08:52] <author> im sorry for the 3 line post, it really shouldnt have put in newlines there....
[08:53] <dthacker-work> that got me halfway there (external drive, mind you) and then I used the "force command" to mount the drive successfully
[08:54] <intelikey> being ineteral  i'd just setup fstab to mount it.
[08:54] <author> i was hoping to find a way to mount it as intended, rather than change my settings to adapt to a broken system
[08:54] <andy> :(
[08:54] <dthacker-work> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/newdisk -o force
[08:54] <intelikey> and cut hal completely out of the loop
[08:54] <andy> any one know how to fix the mplayer firefox plugin?
[08:55] <pinepain> who know how to disable automount dialog
[08:55] <intelikey> author using fstab is not adapting to a broken system.  it's using the linux (not the ubuntu) way
[08:55] <author> i dont want to automount it, and id be fine typing sudo mount /dev/... but if its this silly ill go back to my ubuntu (gnome) where, even though its gnome not kde it *works*
[08:56] <dthacker-work> andy: what is wrong with your firefox mplayer plugin?
[08:56] <author> im not gonna take steps backward, i want to use kde and not gnome (and dont tell me i should install kde on my ubuntu, i dont want gnome installed *period*)
[08:56] <intelikey> you dont have to automount it   just because it's in fstab     sheesh
[08:56] <author> hehe
[08:56] <dthacker-work> go author go!  can I get a witness!
[08:57] <intelikey> ^5
[08:57] <author> dthacker-work: rofl im not trying to be confrontational :-P
[08:57] <ubuntu> me again, still with the same problem, i have enought space to install kubuntu linux but i have several hard disks so when in the install tutorial im trying to install kubuntu, there is some part when i have to choose where i want to install it
[08:57] <andy> dthacker-work: it doesnt work at all it used to actually try and work you would see the mplayer logo and controlls but wouldn't play anything but now after i messed with it can't even see controlls any more
[08:57] <intelikey> preaching at the choir author     say on@
[08:58] <ubuntu> so i select manual mode because none of the other methods works for me
[08:58] <dthacker-work> author:  I'm with you.  I'm Gnome free!
[08:58] <author> intelikey: lol ok.  so whats the solution, barring taking any steps backward?  cuz i know how to work in the command line perfectly well, im plenty comfortable there, but i still like graphics, d...arn... it!  (dono the obscenity policy, better safe than sorry)
[08:59] <ubuntu> but when i select the manual mode, i dont know in my free (non partitioned) space what to do so if you can help me making the right partitioning i will apreciate alot
[08:59] <dthacker-work> andy: can you uninstall the plugin and re-install it?
[08:59] <author> dthacker-work: nothin against gnome, i know a lot of people who like it and its a great system, but im a kde guy whos been denied kde for long enough!
[09:00] <andy> dthacker-work: i tried that nothing changes
[09:00] <intelikey> ubuntu   you select "make new"   ext3  file system
[09:00] <pinepain> any one know how to disable autorun dialog?
[09:00] <intelikey> ubuntu select that as the / (root) file system
[09:00] <dthacker-work> pinepain: the dialog box appears when you do what?  Put in a CD?
[09:01] <ubuntu> ok in this ext3 file system partition i select all the free space?
[09:01] <intelikey> author i don't have x installed here.
[09:01] <dthacker-work> andy: If reversing your change doesn't work, then it's Google time.  I haven't used that plugin....
[09:01] <intelikey> ubuntu you might want to leave about 512 meg  for a swap partition
[09:02] <ubuntu> ok
[09:02] <author> intelikey: i would *hate* that - this isnt a work computer, this is my home computer!  i like linux  (primarily) for two things when im at home: window snapping/controls and eye candy.  ^.^
[09:02] <andy> it was googling that made it worse dthacker-work
[09:02] <intelikey> ubuntu is it a laptop ?
[09:02] <pinepain> dthacker-work, yupp, when i connect any removable storage device
[09:02] <author> fun stuff, i unchecked that mount as user box and it still didnt work.  *sigh*
[09:03] <intelikey> author i'm not much on eyecandy.   couldn't care less about it.
[09:03] <ubuntu> nope its a desktop
[09:03] <ubuntu> a normal pc im bad at english sorry
[09:04] <intelikey> ubuntu ok then you probably wont be wanting to "hybernate" the system   so 512 meg of swap should be plenty no matter how little/much ram you have.
[09:04] <ubuntu> ok great
[09:04] <author> ok, i need to get some sleep so i can hopefully talk to someone in sweden before she goes to bed.  take it easy everyone.  its sad but i think i may end up going back to gnome yet again....
[09:05] <intelikey> author that's the spirit....
[09:05] <author> have a good ...whatever it is for you guys
[09:05] <author> hehehe
[09:05] <author> cya
[09:05] <intelikey> k
[09:05] <author> thx for your help
[09:06] <dthacker-work> pinepain.  System-Settings-->Notifications--->Storage Media Notifications.
[09:06] <andy> where are the firefox plugins kept?
[09:06] <intelikey> i do actually have one box with xorg {gnome|kde|xfce4|blackbox|fluxbox|twm} installed on it.   i just never seem to use it for anything.
[09:07] <dthacker-work> old skool!
[09:07] <intelikey> yeah
[09:08] <intelikey> andy probably either /usr/share/firefox/*   or /usr/lib/firefox/*
[09:08] <andy> thanks
[09:08] <dthacker-work> andy: don't know.  Only use a few.
[09:09] <intelikey> i didn't like firefox much better than i liked sun(tm) products
[09:09] <pinepain> dthacker-work, and how to disable for all media type
[09:10] <ubuntu> Ok im creating the ext3 partition this are the settings that im putting i hope they are ok  here it is: type for the new partition: primary partition size 51364 megabytes Location for the new partiton (i selected none of the 2 options) Use as: ext3  Mount point (i cant select any option but i think that here i write "/root" im right)?
[09:10] <intelikey> no
[09:10] <intelikey> use   /
[09:10] <intelikey> not   /root
[09:11] <ubuntu> oh ok
[09:11] <intelikey> and seeing that you have 51g  it might be to your advantage to devide that into 6g / and 45g /home
[09:11] <intelikey> or 10g /   and 41g /home
[09:11] <dthacker-work> pinepain: hmmmm.  The delete button doesn't seem to be active on those.
[09:12] <dthacker-work> pinepain: I guess I don't have a quick answer.
[09:12] <ubuntu> mmm i dont know but you seem to know more than me so that its what im going to do
[09:12] <TimS> How can i list all the USB devices attached to my computer?
[09:13] <intelikey> the reason i mention using a seperate /home file system   is that you can in the feuture reinstall without losing the data in /home  but you can not easily do so with the data in /
[09:13] <intelikey> @ubuntu ^
[09:13] <twosouls82> TimS: lsusb
[09:13] <ubuntu> ooh ok now i get it
[09:14] <TimS> ubuntu: It would be more likely that you would use just /
[09:14] <dthacker-work> pinepain: About disabling the "notification window" try:
[09:14] <dthacker-work> kcontrol / peripherals / storage media ; select unmounted removable media; select "do nothing" and click on "toggle as auto action
[09:14] <ubuntu> that 6 or 10 Gb are the ones for instaling the Kubuntu system
[09:14] <dthacker-work> pinepain: ymmv
[09:15] <intelikey> ubuntu yes indeed,     and the other is only a sujestion.   you can set it up as seems good to you.   but you must have one / file system of at least 4g  for things to work correctly
[09:15] <intelikey> 4+ gig /
[09:15] <ubuntu> and in this case i still have to create the 512 swap partition right?
[09:15] <intelikey> could be 400g /    but does need to be at least 4g
[09:15] <dthacker-work> Ok, time for me to schlep home.  Good localtime all.
[09:15] <ubuntu> yeah, no problem it will be 10 Gb
[09:16] <intelikey> ubuntu yes still an extended swap of about 512m
[09:16] <intelikey> 1g if you want more room
[09:16] <TimS> Okay, I have a usb deviced plugged in at Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0fce:e031, how can I find its tty?
[09:16] <ubuntu> ok
[09:17] <pinepain> dthacker-work, actually it is too kludge way, it must be easy, some conf file. but thx, anyway =)
[09:17] <ubuntu> im gonna create all the partitions
[09:17] <intelikey> but you will probably never use it all.     i don't even have a swap space.
[09:17] <intelikey> still talking about swap  ^
[09:17] <dthacker-work> pinepain:  ask at launchpad.
[09:18] <dthacker-work> I need a chicken taco.  later.
[09:18] <intelikey> good $localtime dthacker
[09:19] <ubuntu> the data partition in the mount point option i write "/home"?
[09:20] <pinepain> is there any blacklist in kopete for icq users?
[09:22] <ubuntu> and in the swap partition, the same mount point option what i write?
[09:22] <intelikey> ubuntu in the swap you make the file system type swap and no mount point
[09:23] <ubuntu> ok perfect
[09:24] <ubuntu> its all done im going to proceed with the installation
[09:29] <pinepain> hi, is there any kind of blacklist in kopete for icq protocol?
[09:31] <TimS> Oh dear. I tryed to mount something and its gone wrong, I now tried to remove the directory it was supposed to mount in as I don't need it and its having trouble.
[09:31] <TimS> Oh dear. I think somethings wrong. What should I do.
[09:32] <intelikey> TimS where did you mount it ?
[09:32] <TimS>  /home/tim/se
[09:32] <intelikey> sudo umount /home/tim/se
[09:33] <TimS> sudo umount /home/tim/se
[09:33] <TimS> umount: /home/tim/se: device is busy
[09:33] <intelikey> TimS ok close the konqueror or konsole that is looking at it and try again
[09:33] <TimS> The device I mounted was 1-6 as that showed up when i plugged in my usb device and tried dmesg
[09:34] <TimS> It is closed.
[09:35] <intelikey> show me the mount command you issued ?
[09:35] <TimS> I used a program to mount symbian file systems so it was p3nfsd
[09:35] <intelikey> oh.
[09:36] <blaze> how can I run an application visible on all virtual desktops from terminal? is it possible?
[09:36] <intelikey> use the program to umount it
[09:36] <TimS> and just used the options for /dev/1-6 and the mount point of /home/tim/se
[09:36] <TimS> My kicker has crashed. doh.
[09:37] <TimS> It has no unmount command
[09:37] <intelikey> blaze probably.  but i don't konw how.
[09:37] <intelikey> hehhe  /dev/1-6   lol  oooops.
[09:37] <TimS> Is that bad?
[09:37] <TimS> Im guessing yes :P
[09:38] <intelikey> not really.   just go the windows way,   reboot.
[09:38] <MGalaxy> hi, I use compiz-fusion. Now, I have to click only and only on a window's TitleBar to active it, the windows wont be activated when I click on the other place of the window. Any solution?
[09:38]  * intelikey can't believe he really typed that....   
[09:38] <TimS> can I do a hard reboot intelikey or should I do it via the terminal.
[09:38] <TimS> The kicker has crashed so I can't do it the normal way :P
[09:38] <intelikey> TimS try sudo init 6
[09:39] <Lynoure> blaze: why from the terminal? Is setting it in kde settings to start by default on all desktops an ok way? (you only need to set it once)
[09:40] <intelikey> i still can't believe i just told someone to reboot....
[09:40]  * intelikey is going bonnkers.  and should just leave.
[09:40] <blaze> Lynoure » this app is awn :)
[09:41] <hola> samene can help me o cofigure mey webcam
[09:41] <Lynoure> blaze: sorry, don't know what app being an awn means...
[09:41] <TimS> Where did intelikey go!
[09:42] <TimS> I wanted to tell him that i loved him
[09:42] <Lynoure> blaze: oh, avant-window-navigator?  Never tried it, claims to be for gnome...
[09:43] <TimS> I have used it on KDE before.
[09:43] <blaze> yep
[09:43] <Lynoure> blaze: still, if it needs to be on all desktop, kde:s window rules might still help. Tried them and they did not?
[09:44] <blaze> ok, I'll try
[09:45] <hola> samene can help me o cofigure mey webcam
[09:45] <jves> Hello, I  just changed to Kubuntu from Fista. Got everything working, only when I play movies in VLC they freeze evey few seconds for a short time...
[09:46] <jves> Anyone any experience with this?
[09:47] <TimS> jves: Does it happen in any other media player?
[09:48] <Lynoure> blaze: let me know if it worked
[09:49] <ubuntu> well it installed already im going to reebot
[09:50] <ubuntu> thanks alot inteliked for your patience
[09:50] <jves> In Kaffeine I didn't get anything visible at all....
[09:50] <TimS> !codecs
[09:50] <TimS> You need the correct media codecs.
[09:50] <TimS> VLC comes with them, but its better to install the proper ones.
[09:50] <emilsedgh> maybe thats the graphic cards problem
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:51] <emilsedgh> i had such problems a few years ago, that was because of misconfigurations and bad drivers of video cards
[09:51] <hola> samene can help me o cofigure mey webcam
[09:53] <jves> I use the restricted Nvidia driver with a Nvidia 7900 Go 256Mb card....
[09:54] <blaze> Lynoure » yes, it works, tx
[10:11] <TimS> Freenode is not very nice. He kicks me when I am down.
[10:12] <vitjoc> Ппрмвет всем
[10:13] <pag> !ru | vitjoc
[10:13] <ubotu> vitjoc: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:14] <vitjoc> Привіт всім
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[10:52] <lordrayden> hi all
[10:53] <lordrayden> anyone knows a good cd ripper for kubuntu? I don't feel like experimenting right now :)
[10:54] <lordrayden> i'm running v 7.10 now
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Since enabling TwinView with nvidia-settings, I experience unreproduceable hard-freezes of my system, I assume that's xserver-related... My xorg.conf now holds 3 monitor, device and screens sections, the first seems to be the old single-screen one and the other two for the seperate screens... Someone mind looking at it? http://pastebin.ca/914944
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: I use KAudioCreator and am satisfied with it...
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: Else, kio-slaves will do you the job too
[10:55] <lordrayden> tnx, I got it, I'll give them a try
[10:55] <lordrayden> i used k3b till now and it's taking 2 long
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: Easiest is opening the audio cd in konqueror and copying the mp3 folder where you want it to be
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: You'll still need cdparanoia and lame, if I am not mistaken
[10:56] <lordrayden> what about the quality? I want to listen good tracks :)
[10:57] <lordrayden> what do u use, if u use any?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: I use 192 kbit CBR, that's good enough for me to listen to on the PC and my portable player...
[10:57] <lordrayden> *which?
[10:58] <lordrayden> k, that's what i was askin for
[10:59] <sivaji> i was trying to boot from livecd kubuntu , i can see the progessbar starts and then  everything goes blank nothing happens
[11:01] <lordrayden> sivaji, U have an option to install text mode, did u try it?
[11:07] <Duzchip> Hi everyone. I've just got my mobile modem to connect on my kubuntu 7.10 -computer but it doesn't seem to wanna use the ppp0 connection
[11:08] <Duzchip> I can see its connected but i cant use the connection
[11:08] <Duzchip> How do i pick which interface to use?
[11:23] <demon4areson> hi i'm having a problem i istalled kubuntu and while i was try to get updates yesterday my machine completly froze
[11:24] <demon4areson> at first my bf thought it was a if you dont move your mouse in x time setting but i cant find one
[11:24] <demon4areson> now he thins it may dslke my hardware again
[11:25] <demon4areson> dislike*
[11:49] <weedar> Does anyone know if there's a new power manager for kde4 like the one in kde3 that shows batterystatus and cpu speed?
[11:49] <weedar> If not, what's the name of the old one :)
[11:53] <tdn> My sound volume is much lower after upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10! I have tried adjusting the volume in both alsamixer, aumix, kmix, etc, but none of it helps. How do I fix this? I do not even know how to investigate this problem any further.
[12:04] <harmental> hey guys...since i upgraded to kde 3.5.9 im experiencing two SERIOUS issues: 1) the kded process is taking up tp 40% of my proc and 2) kubuntu does no longuer recognize any of my usb drives.....
[12:05] <harmental> i need help truly asap....
[12:05] <harmental> google didnt help either...
[12:07] <siofwolves> tdn, i had the same problem, but alsamixer worked for me.
[12:08] <shockhead> hey folks
[12:08] <shockhead> i just realised that if I point konqueror at a sun java calendar (.wcap) then it opens it in an embedded korganizer :-)
[12:08] <shockhead> nice
[12:08] <shockhead> anyone any idea how I can just load it as a resource in Kontact?
[12:12] <shockhead> I found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kresourcewcap/
[12:12] <shockhead> but I can't figure out if it's included in kubuntu
[12:13] <shockhead> sounds like it must have been if it works in konq, but the option's not there in kontact
[12:16] <Aikurn> maybe konq opens it as a local calendar file
[12:16] <shockhead> Aikurn: yeah, i tried that in kontact, and it didn't give me any errors, but the calendar was empty
[12:17] <Aikurn> too bad
[12:18] <Aikurn> look at the file type properties, wich app is it using to show the embedded part?
[12:18] <Aikurn> oh, and thanks to you i've just discovered that i can add my contact's birthdays as a resource to my calendar :)
[12:18] <shockhead> yep, great isn't it :-)
[12:19] <shockhead> the screenshot on that link showed an extra resource being listed in kontact... :-/
[12:19] <shockhead> will look at properties
[12:20] <shockhead> Aikurn: hmmm... i'm not even sure how to check the file's properties... korganiser has completely taken over my konqueror :-)
[12:21] <Aikurn> lol, don't worry it's not as evil as it looks
[12:22] <Aikurn> well, KResourcesWCAP doesn't seem hard to compile
[12:23] <tdn> siofwolves, then what do I do when alsamixer does not help?
[12:24] <rakan> Hell
[12:24] <rakan> hello*
[12:24] <rakan> how come "webmin" is not in kubuntu repo?
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> !webmin
[12:25] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> its not in the debian repos a any mor eeither
[12:25] <shockhead> Aikurn: true... I'm doing it now.. Just wondering if it's already packaged away somewhere on my system (or included in kontact)
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> you could install it from source if ya want
[12:26] <Aikurn> shockhead: oh, ok
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> !info ebox
[12:26] <ubotu> ebox (source: ebox): eBox - Base framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 1220 kB
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[12:26] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[12:28] <rakan> thanks
[12:28] <rakan> will try ebox
[12:35] <anne_> I feel like a complete idiot asking this, but why does this always echo my error message?
[12:35] <anne_> http://pastebin.ca/915006
[12:36] <lukas_> hello??
[12:36] <lukas_> is there anybody?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> lukas_,  301 people here it seems.
[12:37] <anne_> Don't count on it. I know, though, that etiquette is you ask your question right off the bat.
[12:37] <re-align> Doesn't mean any of us are paying attention to this chat...
[12:38] <re-align> We seem to have scared him off... :(
[12:38] <whitman> anne_, ASOUNDRC=/home/anne/.asoundrc.asoundrc <-- is that line right? Missing a / maybe?
[12:39] <anne_> whitman: nope, that's what the file is called. .asoundrc.asoundrc
[12:39] <whitman> ok, just looks odd
[12:39] <anne_> whitman: I know. I didn't name it, though
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. thats odd.. ive never seen one named that befor
[12:40] <re-align> Right. I have a fairly recent install of Kubuntu 7.10 and haven't changed much with it (just installed a few packages, mostly games and drivers and such; also updated what I can). I'm now looking to change the theme. Any theme managers I should try, or avoid?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of kde themes in the repos - not installed by default. Play with them
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> KDE 'themes' are a bit more complex then windows themes if thats what you are used to.
[12:41] <anne_> Dr_Willis: might be that you haven't used the convenience macro before - asoundconf set-default-card - it might create that file. .asoundrc refers to it.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> willis@kitchen:~$ ls -a .a*
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> .asoundrc  .asoundrc.asoundconf
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> somthing is... confused here.. :) You or me..
[12:43] <tdn> Firefox is using 50% CPU all the time, when it is just idling. I think it is the Flash plugin that is causing problems. How do I fix this? It is extremely annoying on my laptop, because it drains the laptop battery.
[12:43] <lukas_> you are all a bit confused
[12:44] <lukas_> :D
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> lukas_,  we love u 2.
[12:44] <shockhead> Dr_Willis: yeah, i get that too.. :-(
[12:44] <anne_> Dr_Willis: y'know, it just might be me.. I think I might have written asoundrc.asoundrc :s
[12:44] <lukas_> ??????
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> anne_,  thats what im thinking also. :)
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> !? :)
[12:45] <re-align> And then there's my MP3 player, I plug it into the USB port and kubuntu doesn't seem to notice it (or know what to do with it). As for the repos, I'm fairly new to Ubuntu/Kubuntu, so I don't have more than the basic ones that it installs by default, plus one I had to add for my EVDO card (some medibuntu reps as referenced in one of the tuts on the kubuntu forums).
[12:45] <lukas_> dr willis ,sorry but my english isnt very good
[12:46] <lukas_> dr willis????
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> lukas_,  well - i have not noticed you actually asking a question yet. :)
[12:47] <lukas_> im out of germany so  i can not understand all the things you told me
[12:47]  * re-align thought English was required learning in German schools these days...
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> We said to ask a question if you have one.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> also theres a german channel
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> !de
[12:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:47] <lukas_> real?
[12:48] <lukas_> i dont no that
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Theres Lot of other language channels :)
[12:48] <lukas_> baut the english chat is a bit funny
[12:49] <ubunturos> is running dapper drake in 2008 same as running 4.10 in 2006?
[12:50] <lukas_> yes but i never were on konversation
[12:50] <lukas_> so i have some little problems
[12:57] <warren_> bonjour
[12:57] <warren_> je souhaite passer au wifi pour une raison mais je suis un peu nul
[12:58] <re-align> !fr
[12:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:58] <warren_> cote compatibilité, puis-je acheter nimporte quel routeur wifi?
[12:58] <warren_> i am sorry
[12:58] <re-align> bah, guess that one doesn't work...
[12:58] <re-align> There may be a channel for French speakers, the bot doesn't seem to like me...
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Bot was slow to answer. :)
[12:59] <re-align> Ah, I see it now.
[13:01] <re-align> Still needing some assistance with my MP3 player. Under Windows it doesn't read like a removable drive, but like a portable media device (i.e. Windows recognizes it as an MP3 player and not a flash drive as it does with some models). Kubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with it though. It's a Samsung YP-U3.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> I just use mine as removeble hard drives.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> could be amarok, or some other apps might be able to see it as a special player.  but i rarely use those
[13:03] <psycose>  hello let's say i  want to start a new GPL project, called "myubuntu" should i ask permition to the ubuntu copyrigth owner because of the same name ? thanks (ubuntu is just an exemple ;-)
[13:04] <re-align> I'm not even sure how to mount it as a removable drive. I used to mount flash drives under Ubuntu, but that method doesn't seem to be working with this (or maybe it's just been long enough I've forgotten how to do it correctly...).
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Plug it in - and kde should pop up a dialog asking what to do with it.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Or go hard-kore and mount it from the terminal. :)
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> be sure to unmount befor removing the device
[13:05] <Dragnslcr> psycose- if the code is GPL, you can fork it however you want. If the name of the project is trademarked, you'll probably have to come up with your own name
[13:05] <re-align> I plug it in and nothing happens (or at least, nothing seems to happen).
[13:05] <solaries> hi all
[13:05] <Dragnslcr> psycose- of course you can ask the trademark owners to use the name, but it's up to them
[13:05] <solaries> after updating ubuntu I get "GRUB error 18" and it does not boot any more. Any similar incidents?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> re-align,  check 'dmesg' output  and the 'removeable media' specail konqueror place.. (whatever its called)
[13:06] <re-align> It charges though, but that's simply due to the presence of power on the USB bus.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> a mp3 player that also charges from the USB port.. thats a nifty feature
[13:06] <Dragnslcr> Mine does
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> I got a GBA/DS cable that lets me charge them from USB. :)
[13:06] <re-align> I've had 2 that do that. They're both flash based, not hard drive.
[13:07] <psycose> Dragnslcr: thanks where can i find if the named is trademarked ?
[13:07] <re-align> One was a Sony and it was read as a flash drive by both Windows and Ubuntu. Unfortunately it died.
[13:07] <Dragnslcr> psycose- the project's website may have a licensing page that says what you can do with the name. Otherwise you'd have to ask someone involved with the project
[13:08] <re-align> The new one is the Samsung and is read differently for some reason...
[13:08] <psycose> Dragnslcr: ok thanks
[13:08] <Dragnslcr> I've had good luck with my Cowon. Only problem I've had is that I can't get Amarok to see it, even though it's supposed to be supported
[13:10] <metamoo> Can anybody help me get my onboard sound working? I'm stumped. I have no /dev/dsp, shows up in lspci as unknown device. It was working ok in opensuse 10.3
[13:12] <re-align> Right, here's the relavent dmesg output: http://www.pastebin.org/20879
[13:14] <psycose> Dragnslcr: so do you the the owner of GCC ?
[13:19] <swatto> hi all
[13:20] <swatto> anyone here play Nexuiz?
[13:20] <re-align> Lemme guess, no one's making sense out of the dmesg output I posted the link to...or maybe everyone's busy...
[13:23] <sivaji> i have more than 100's of .JPG file , i want to assign name like 1.jpg , 2.jpg ,.... is it possible to do with script
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> sivaji,  yes it is.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> :0
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:24] <sivaji> Dr_Willis how
[13:24] <epsilorn> hi! i'm trying to install latest alsa drivers but i've got this problem during Debuild :install: cannot stat `include/sound/*.h': No such file or directory
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> sorry only one  q./ per day. :)
[13:24] <epsilorn> have you gto some clues?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> sivaji,  heh - there are some gui renamer tools. Or  write a script that uses mv, or other tools
[13:30] <re-align> Any way to list connected USB devices? lusb doesn't seem to work.
[13:30] <re-align> Aside, of course, from dmesg...
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> !find rename
[13:31] <ubotu> Found: kdeaddons-kfile-plugins, gprename, gwenrename, krename, mp3rename (and 3 others)
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> sivaji,  i tend to use a tool called 'qmv' thats in some find name tool package.
[13:31] <sivaji> Dr_Willis ok
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> theres a windows tool called 'bulk rename utility' that i like. :) it runs with wine.
[13:41] <chartoin> can someone direct me to somwhere I can get help on xgl sessions
[13:43] <chartoin> can someone here help?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> i dont use xgl. sorry
[13:49] <romunov> what's that "package" called where you install apache, php, mysql?
[13:49] <nosrednaekim> chartoin» whats wrong?
[13:49] <nosrednaekim> !LAMP
[13:49] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[13:55] <gavo> hi... i am having a problem with my NTFS partitions... they are not automounting, and when I enter disk and filesystems under SYSTEM SETTINGS => ADVANCED, and try to manually enable, I get an error stating NTFS appears to be marked in use... though I have 3 seperate NTFS drives and they are all acting indentically
[13:56] <mrunagi> gavo:  i had that same problem'
[13:56] <mrunagi> lemme see your fstab entry
[13:56] <gavo> mrunagi I am always glad to hear when I am not alone!
[13:57] <gavo> urmmm im a bit of a noob... could you let me know how to view what you want to see?
[13:57] <gavo> and what is a good paste-site to put the error into?
[13:57] <mrunagi> that makes me think you didnt add the fstab entry
[13:57] <mrunagi> do you have ntfs-3g installed
[13:59] <re-align> Bah, this is getting really annoying...anyone else having issues with Adept telling you the database is locked, and there's no other process using it?
[13:59] <mrunagi> re-align: occasionally, if i cant kill the process i just restart
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> !adptfix
[13:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adptfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[14:00] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:00] <re-align> I get it every time I use any form of Adept, even from a fresh boot (cold, reboot, etc.)
[14:00] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: youre my hero
[14:00] <gavo> mrunagi - no I didnt manually add any fstab entry... the drives are usually automounted during installation in *most* other distros, i thought it would be the same
[14:00] <gavo> ill check if ntfs-3g is installed... just a sec
[14:00] <mrunagi> gavo: i believe kubuntu can read and write by default but install it anyway
[14:00] <re-align> It pops up this window where it offers to try fixing it for me, and when I click Yes, to have it do so, it crashes with signal 6.
[14:00] <mrunagi> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | re-align
[14:01] <ubotu> re-align: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:01] <mrunagi> gavo: then sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[14:01] <gavo> it appears that i have it already
[14:01] <mrunagi> gavo: good
[14:01] <gavo> "ntfs-3g is already the newest version"
[14:01] <mrunagi> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[14:02] <mrunagi> do you have an entry in there for your drive
[14:02] <gavo> yes i do
[14:02] <mrunagi> does it say ntfs or ntfs-3g
[14:03] <gavo> i can see them because of their drive allocation numbers, not the drive labels
[14:03] <gavo> ntfs
[14:03] <mrunagi> is it internal or external
[14:03] <gavo> internal
[14:03] <gavo> its actually 3 partitions on the same HDD
[14:03] <mrunagi> UUID=E87CDBA97CDB70B4 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[14:03] <mrunagi> mimic that
[14:03] <mrunagi> do yo uknow the uuid?
[14:04] <gavo> no sorry    i dont     is that the device id?
[14:04] <romunov> nosrednaekim: thanks about the LAMP thingy
[14:04] <re-align> Right, that's running now. Strange thing is, I've had this problem since install and don't recall any of the frontends crashing (except when I try to have them autofix the problem).
[14:04] <mrunagi> !uuid
[14:04] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> re-align» hum... who knows :)
[14:06] <re-align> Usually when I click on No (to not have it autofix and operate in 'read only mode') it will operate normally.
[14:07] <re-align> That seems to have fixed it, thanks.
[14:08] <re-align> Now, maybe I can get it to install mtp-tools...
[14:09] <mrunagi> gavo you still here?
[14:18] <swatto> anyone know how i can check if compiz is working correctly
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> swatto» either compiz is working or its not :)
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> swatto» and you should be able to tell quite easily
[14:20] <swatto> well ive got the advanced desktop settings thingy
[14:20] <swatto> and i can select plugins and stuff but how do i use them
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> swatto» look into the "shortcuts" or "key bindings" for each plugin
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> !find encode
[14:22] <ubotu> Found: grabcd-encode, libencode-perl, python-formencode, mencoder
[14:23] <swatto> ah yes i see but what is super key?
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> !search encode
[14:23] <ubotu> Found:
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> swatto» Meta, or the windows key
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> !encode
[14:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:24] <swatto> whats meta?
[14:25] <jpatrick> swatto: win key
[14:26] <martijn81> the front page of kubuntu.org needs an update for hardy
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> meta is what KDE calls the win key
[14:26] <swatto> hmm dont think its working then
[14:27] <fiyawerx> travkin: hi?
[14:28] <travkin> hi
[14:28] <fiyawerx> [09:27] [CTCP] Received Version request from travkin to channel #kubuntu.
[14:28] <swatto> hmm the keys are not doing anything
[14:28] <martijn81> hi travkin
[14:28] <jpatrick> fiyawerx: thanks for the heads up
[14:29] <fiyawerx> np, what was that about?
[14:29] <jpatrick> fiyawerx: he got a list of every client connected to this channel
[14:29] <fiyawerx> ah
[14:29] <jpatrick> fiyawerx: bad, cos it's just attackers do
[14:29]  * fiyawerx nods
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> swatto» try reasigning the shortcuts
[14:32] <swatto> Initiate is disabled and i can click it and it says New Acclerator... and then i click away from it and it changes back to Disabled
[14:33] <swatto> paint on fire ^^
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> swatto» when it says new acclerator...press the key combination
[14:33] <subspider> hi everybody
[14:33] <mrunagi> HI subspider
[14:34] <subspider> hehe i don't use ir for ages
[14:34] <swatto> done that but pressed it and nothing happens :(
[14:34] <swatto> pressed the key combination
[14:35] <subspider> can anybody tell me what is the program to know the temperatura of my cpu  in kubuntu
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> !info lm-sensors
[14:35] <ubotu> lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[14:36] <TimS> !info ksensors
[14:36] <subspider> i allready have that
[14:36] <ubotu> ksensors (source: ksensors): lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-15ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 296 kB, installed size 920 kB
[14:37] <subspider> but it doesn't show me the temperture
[14:37] <mrunagi> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.............anyone know how to fix this? i get thissometimes namely when i do sudo kate
[14:37] <TimS> It should.
[14:37] <TimS> subspider: try kima, that does for me.
[14:37] <TimS> !info kima
[14:37] <ubotu> kima (source: kima): kicker monitoring applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 114 kB, installed size 448 kB
[14:38] <nosrednaekim> swatto» maybe type in the key combo....not really sure... #compiz-fusion might be of greater help
[14:39] <swatto> ok cheers
[14:40] <subspider> i install kima how do i run it
[14:40] <subspider> ??
[14:40] <re-align> Hmm, used to be you could tell XChat to not reply to CTCP version requests...anyone know how to do this in version 2.8.4?
[14:40] <mrunagi> i assume sudo apt-get isntall kima?
[14:40] <mrunagi> or is that a stupid assumption
[14:40] <romunov> what's the command to softlink files/direectories?
[14:40] <epsilorn> hi i'm rather noobie, what does it mean when trying to compile a package i got this: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library libasound (soname 2, path libasound.so.2, dependency field Depends)?
[14:41] <mrunagi> epsilorn: missing dependencies
[14:41] <epsilorn> so what i gotta do?
[14:41] <mrunagi> epsilorn: can you not install using apt-get?
[14:41] <subspider> i use synaptic
[14:42] <epsilorn> no it's latest driver
[14:42] <mrunagi> either way
[14:42] <subspider> it sais is installed
[14:42] <mrunagi> run it subspider
[14:42] <prince_jammys> romunov: ln -s
[14:42] <subspider> how
[14:42] <subspider> ??
[14:43] <subspider> sorry i'm new
[14:43] <mrunagi> type kima in the prompt?
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> romunov» ln -sf source dest
[14:44] <epsilorn> mrunagi: it's altest dirver i cannot use apt-get
[14:44] <subspider> i wrote but it sais can not run the specified comand
[14:45] <mrunagi> epsilorn: is there any documentation on what dependencies you need
[14:45] <epsilorn> mrunagi: no, it's said it should install directly
[14:46] <mrunagi> i dunno how to help you epsilorn, there are missing dependencies but i dunno how to figure out which
[14:46] <epsilorn> mrunagi: so I, thanks anyway for your kindness
[14:47] <mrunagi> no problem
[14:47] <mrunagi> its the kubuntu way
[14:47] <mrunagi> even though no one has helped me on my recent problem :D
[14:47] <epsilorn> eheh probably nobody knows
[14:47] <mrunagi> possibly, but the error doesnt look super weird
[14:48] <carate> Why Can't I Voluntarily Feel Pain For A Long Time Like Years At A Time? i do anything in my power to stop feeling the pain and i can't ever do anything to feel pain voluntarily. imagine me being homeless that would be hell and I am close to being that. what is my issue?
[14:49] <mrunagi> um
[14:50] <mrunagi> out of habbit i was opening ubuntu forums to fix carate's problem
[14:51] <subspider> hi
[14:51] <subspider> i can't run kima
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» lol
[14:51] <subspider> but in synaptic it sais is installed
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> !sudo | mrunagi
[14:51] <ubotu> mrunagi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo
[14:52] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> !search konverter
[14:54] <ubotu> Found:
[14:56] <subspider> kdesudo <program> don't work
[14:56] <subspider> it sais comand not found
[14:56] <nosrednaekim> subspider» if you are on fiesty.... you need to use kdesu
[14:57] <subspider> now sais x serv not found
[14:57] <subspider> cannot conect to x serv
[14:57] <magarelli> #ubuntu-it
[14:57] <magarelli> How can I change channel?
[14:58] <romunov> type "/j #newchannel"
[14:58] <romunov> or double click the "#channel"
[15:00] <ibou> hi
[15:00] <ibou> is it possible to get itunes ?
[15:00] <subspider> lol
[15:00] <subspider> use amarok is better
[15:01] <basti> or banshee
[15:01] <subspider> i have an ipod and it work
[15:01] <ibou> subspider: i like amarok but i don't like the presentation of the shoutcasts
[15:01] <subspider> !amarok
[15:01] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[15:01] <SlimeyPete> ibou: if you really want itunes, I hear it works under Wine
[15:02] <subspider> yes
[15:02] <SlimeyPete> but I haven't tried it myself
[15:02] <subspider> it work
[15:02] <subspider> i tryed
[15:02] <ibou> ok
[15:02] <subspider> !wine
[15:02] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:02] <subspider> but i just want to know the temeperature of my cpu
[15:02] <ibou> basti: does banshee have a nice shoutcast presentation ?
[15:03] <prince_jammys> !conky | subspider: see if this has it
[15:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:03] <prince_jammys> !info conky | subspider: see if this has it
[15:03] <ubotu> subspider: see if this has it: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[15:03] <subspider> you can configure the amrok it have many many pulgins
[15:04] <ibou> subspider:  do you know a good plugin for shoutcasts ?
[15:04] <subspider> go on kdelook
[15:04] <subspider> just give me a minute
[15:05] <ibou> what is kdelook ?? a wabsite ?
[15:05] <prince_jammys> ibou: yes
[15:06] <prince_jammys> !themes | ibou
[15:06] <ubotu> ibou: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[15:06] <ibou> prince_jammys: ok
[15:06] <gavo> hey mrunagi   just wanted to let you know that I fixed the problem but booting with a Ghost rescue disk, and running a disk check, including chdsk, and fixing the errros
[15:06] <gavo> soon as i booted back into kubuntu, the drives automounted :)
[15:09] <subspider> i tryed conky it's working but it doesn't shor temperature of my cpu
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> !sensors
[15:09] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[15:09] <ibou> i noticed a bug : when i play a video with mplayer from a device. After, i can't umount this device. The only way is to kill two dbus processes. Anyone else noticed that ?
[15:09] <tdn> Firefox is using 50% CPU all the time, when it is just idling. I think it is the Flash plugin that is causing problems. How do I fix this? It is extremely annoying on my laptop, because it drains the laptop battery.
[15:10] <tdn> My sound volume is much lower after upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10! I have tried adjusting the volume in both alsamixer, aumix, kmix, etc, but none of it helps. How do I fix this? I do not even know how to investigate this problem any further.
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> tdn» turn up the volume on the PCM channel
[15:16] <INOSHU> Hey... I have a question?
[15:16] <nosrednaekim> ask INOSHU
[15:16] <INOSHU> Which Ubuntu-compatible media player is most similar to iTunes? (both in terms of interface, and certain features... I don't need iPod support, but i do need MP3 support, tag editing(preferably but not essentially including album art), ratings, and smart playlists... CD burning would be nice too but I can live without it)
[15:17] <jpatrick> INOSHU: amarok
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> INOSHU» Amarok can do all that easy :)
[15:17] <INOSHU> ok
[15:17] <INOSHU> thanks ^^
[15:17] <INOSHU> it's available in the normal programs manager?
[15:17] <martijn81> it is installed by default
[15:17] <ibou> INOSHU: yes
[15:17] <INOSHU> ah ok
[15:17] <INOSHU> thanks ^^
[15:17] <INOSHU> cya
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> its installed by default in kubuntu
[15:18] <ibou> my problem is that i would like to see the bitrate on shoutcasts and i can't see them with amarok
[15:19] <martijn81> ibou: also not when you enable a collumn for bitrate?
[15:22] <subspider> i installed ksensor it works fine
[15:22] <subspider> but still no have the capacity to view temperature of my pc
[15:22] <subspider> i have a laptop
[15:23] <subspider> and sometimes is just turn of
[15:23] <subspider> i think is temperature
[15:23] <subspider> is to high
[15:23] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[15:23] <subspider> hi
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> subspider» did you run the sensors-detect command?
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj....
[15:24] <ibou> martijn81: yes i can do that but i have to select the radio first. I would like to have the bitrate and descritption of each radio in the radio selection aplet (on the left in amarok)
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ibou, in order to know the bit rate , the bitstream has to be detected first , some stations will advert it in the station title but most don't
[15:27] <ibou> BluesKaj: ok
[15:27] <kaminix> Is there any way to make a folder on one drive update itself with a backup of what's in the folder of another drive?
[15:27] <mrunagi> anyone know how to fix Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» yes... use kdesudo instead of sudo to run graphical apps
[15:28] <mrunagi> thats so confusing =(
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> what?
[15:29] <mrunagi> i learned on sudo
[15:29] <mrunagi> lol
[15:29] <mrunagi> kdesudo is hard to remember
[15:29] <mrunagi> but then again i also learned to use gedit, i still do that from time to time
[15:30] <mrunagi> yay!
[15:30] <mrunagi> my window decorator crashes every time i start compiz
[15:31] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» are you using emerald
[15:31] <mrunagi> no
[15:32] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» grab emerald....
[15:33] <andres__> hi
[15:33] <mrunagi> hey nosrednaekim maybe you can help me figure something out, when i reinstalled kubuntu the zoom effect thingy stopped on the quick launcer, and i liked that any idea how to fix that?
[15:33] <martijn81> where is the kubuntu alpha5 release?
[15:33] <andres__> anyone can speak in spanish?
[15:34] <nosrednaekim> !es
[15:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:34] <DDiuGG> will compiz run on integrated graphics? I am currently running the kubuntu 7.10
[15:35] <nosrednaekim> DDiuGG» what integrated graphics?
[15:35] <mrunagi>  depends on how good the integrated graphics are DDiuGG
[15:35] <DDiuGG> umm 1 sec
[15:35] <DDiuGG> just installed it
[15:35] <subspider> how do i stop a program
[15:35] <subspider> ??
[15:35] <subspider> like conky
[15:36] <llutz> subspider: killall conky
[15:36] <DDiuGG> It states in KInfo Center Intel 82845G/GL
[15:36] <nosrednaekim> DDiuGG» yup..compiz should be fine on that
[15:37] <subspider> thnks ilutz
[15:37] <DDiuGG> do you know any good tuts to perform the install....   I am coming from MS... and I am disgusted w/ Vista
[15:38] <subspider> who is not DDiuGG
[15:38] <mrunagi> !compiz
[15:38] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:38] <DDiuGG> wow thank you for the help... I will go attempt it and cross my fingers
[15:38] <subspider> how we know if our grafic card is well installed
[15:38] <DDiuGG> umm I don't
[15:39] <DDiuGG> how can I check
[15:39] <subspider> cause my laptop is a bot slow
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> DDiuGG» intels rarely have problem with drivers
[15:39] <DDiuGG> ok
[15:39] <DDiuGG> thank you
[15:39] <subspider> i have a intel to
[15:39] <subspider> 915
[15:39] <subspider> it sucks
[15:40] <JoTrocken> hi all - how may I display the size of my graphical ram?
[15:40] <JoTrocken> with gutsy
[15:40] <martijn81> where is the kubuntu alpha5 release? i downloaded the ubuntu live-cd alpha5 per accident
[15:40] <subspider> ksensors
[15:40] <DDiuGG> first line in tut asks if I am on "Feisty" what is that and am I with default kubuntu install?
[15:40] <subspider> i installed and it shows
[15:41] <subspider> but you want something grafic like a it have in vista??
[15:41] <DDiuGG> never mind not needed on gutsy
[15:41] <seezer> JoTrocken: try lspci -v
[15:42] <JoTrocken> thx
[15:42] <seezer> then search for your "VGA compatible controller" - it should contain a line like:
[15:42] <seezer>         Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
[15:45] <chartoin> hi guys, this is an emergency
[15:45] <chartoin> i have a panel and a taskbar
[15:45] <chartoin> I activated panel hiding buttons
[15:45] <chartoin> and now my panel has dissappeared below the task bar
[15:45] <chartoin> what do I do
[15:46] <chartoin> I can't move the taskbar
[15:46] <chartoin> (It souds silly)
[15:47] <martijn81> guys, the kubuntu front page need an update for alpha5
[15:48] <martijn81> for the people searching for the iso: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-5/
[15:51] <DDiuGG> I cannot find this
[15:51] <DDiuGG> And for Kubuntu: KMenu -> Settings -> CompizConfig Settings Manager or KMenu -> Settings -> Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[15:51] <chartoin> panel...panel...
[15:51] <chartoin> I can't get my panel
[15:55] <mohi> hi
[15:55] <mohi> how can I share the internet bettween two kubuntu?
[15:55] <DDiuGG> ok compiz tries to start w/ the cmd "compiz -- replace" then the screen goes black and then just returns to the default kubuntu desktop.... Any thoughts?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> chartoin, alt+F2 ,kcontrol /desktop/panels
[15:56] <NickPresta> DDiuGG, any errors or output? Sounds like compiz is failing and is reverting back to kwin.
[15:56] <DDiuGG> nope no errors
[15:58] <subspider> hi can anybody halp me on configuring amsn
[15:59] <subspider> when i click on my e-mail it can't open firefox
[15:59] <mohi> how can I share the internet bitween two kubuntus by a cross cable?
[16:00] <DDiuGG_1983> any way to troubleshoot why compiz is failing when nothing is being reported to screen
[16:00] <chartoin> thnx BluesKaj
[16:12] <phobes> Am I wrong or is Konqueror looking in files to determine what filetype they are?
[16:13] <SSJ_GZ> phobes: Unless it has a known extension, Konqueror will decide the type of a file based on its contents.
[16:13] <SSJ_GZ> (AFAIK)
[16:14] <phobes> SSJ_GZ:   Ya, and a mere launch association is not a filetype association
[16:14] <mrunagi_> what is a grub 18 error
[16:14] <mrunagi_> !grub
[16:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:17] <eddy> i work in c++, and i already download the kdevelop, but when a compile de source text, the system said " *** exited whit status: 1*** what da hell is that ?
[16:19] <markit> hi, I've kaffeine installed, but can't play .flv and .avi files... what package am I missing, and how can I discover what is missing?
[16:19] <prince_jammys> markit: probably kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:19] <prince_jammys> !avi | markit
[16:19] <ubotu> markit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:19] <Sephnroth> erm.  so, with kubuntu gusty gibbon which i just recently installed on my laptop I was just doing an update, told adept to do a full update and it was going fine but whilst commiting changes it failed on like qt3 or something.  after i confirmed the dialog, it crashed out completely.  when i tried to run it again it said that the file it uses was locked
[16:19] <Sephnroth> would i like it to try and resolve the problem, i told it yes and it bombed again
[16:20] <markit> prince_jammys: I'll have a look, thanks
[16:20] <Sephnroth> so i restarted the laptop.. and now when i select ubuntu from grub it says error 15: file not found -_-
[16:20] <MrJigsaw> How do i install a install.sh file ?
[16:21] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: that file is a shell script.  try typing ./install.sh
[16:21] <root______> de que se trata esto
[16:21] <prince_jammys> !es | root______
[16:21] <ubotu> root______: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:22] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: if it's not running, then ::    chmod 755 install.sh  and try the above
[16:22] <MrJigsaw> where do i write install.sh ?
[16:22] <Sephnroth> konsole
[16:23] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: move to the dir where the file is in Konsole
[16:23] <MrJigsaw> whats that? cd ?
[16:24] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: yes ... cd /path/to/dir
[16:25] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: 755 will make it rwxr-xr-x (executable by everyone, writable only by your user)
[16:25] <MrJigsaw> Ill just drop it..
[16:26] <MrJigsaw> Is there anyway to make a virtual machine for free ?
[16:27] <prince_jammys> i don't know
[16:27] <prince_jammys> about virtual machines
[16:27] <ubuntu> hi, which are the spanish chat servers??
[16:27] <mrunagi_> !x
[16:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:27] <NickPresta> !es | ubotu
[16:27] <ubotu> ubotu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:27] <NickPresta> !es | ubuntu
[16:27] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:27] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[16:27] <MrJigsaw> I cant get any app to burn labels on DVD's so i need a virtual machine fore verytime i need to do that.. :|
[16:28] <MrJigsaw> meaby any of you know how to burn labels on DVD's in linux ?
[16:29] <Hellscream> Brasil...
[16:30] <prince_jammys> !br | Hellscream
[16:30] <ubotu> Hellscream: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, google 'lightscribe for linux'
[16:39] <MrJigsaw> lightscribe?
[16:40] <MrJigsaw> I need to print on them.. with my printer :-)
[16:40] <MrJigsaw> I tried using wine and the app i used in windows.. but it just tells me 'No supportede printer was available' ..
[16:42] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, can you print in linux without wine ?
[16:42] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» can that program print to PDF, or postscript.. or a file?
[16:42] <MrJigsaw> Im not using wine to print.. i can do that with out problems :-)
[16:42] <MrJigsaw> But i need a special app to print on the CD's...
[16:43] <BluesKaj> lightscribe prints on cds
[16:44] <MrJigsaw> yes.. in the drive
[16:44] <MrJigsaw> Not using a printer afaik ?
[16:44] <MrJigsaw> Its slicing in the CD
[16:44] <llutz> burning
[16:44] <BluesKaj> 'lightscribe' prints on cds and it may have a linux version...dunno whether you want to print paper labels or print on the label side of a cd ?
[16:45] <MrJigsaw> I want to print a picture ON the CD
[16:45] <mrunagi_> hehehehe im turning my dad over to linux
[16:45] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, well then why are you trying to use a printer ?
[16:45] <MrJigsaw> Og my god..
[16:45] <MrJigsaw> oh*
[16:46] <MrJigsaw> Because thats what a printer can?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> :)
[16:46] <BluesKaj> the print side of a cd is burned using the laser in you burner
[16:46] <MrJigsaw> NO
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> Mr
[16:47] <BluesKaj> I give up
[16:47] <MrJigsaw> Thats lightscribing.. I need to PRINT!!! (PRINT NOT SLICE) on the CD
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» you have a printer that can do that?
[16:47] <MrJigsaw> Yes i have..
[16:47] <MrJigsaw> ffs ive done it to more than a 1000 CD's in windows..
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw» hrm... It would very much depend on the printer I would think.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> doh
[16:49] <BluesKaj> mrunagi_, I'm trying to convince my son to switch to linux :)
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> well... this ain't windows....
[16:49] <MrJigsaw> Nope
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> and now i keep getting fucking KDE error..
[16:50] <BluesKaj> what kind of printer is it MrJigsaw?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> make & model
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> Canon iP4500
[16:50] <neosaki> Also, watch language.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> !language | MrJigsaw
[16:50] <ubotu> MrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> english..
[16:50] <cheddarcheeseisy> is JFS supported?
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> Lols
[16:51] <MrJigsaw> you guys are so holy.
[16:53] <mrunagi__> hehehehe im turning my dad over to linux
[16:54] <jpatrick> mrunagi__: yay, I did that to mine ages ago
[16:54] <mrunagi__> im trying to get him to sell computers with linux on it
[16:54] <neosaki> I haven't done that as too many of the applications he needs are on Windows >.>
[16:54] <mrunagi__> figured that people that just want internet and email cant do too much damage
[16:56] <mrunagi__> kubutnu is slow on a 900mhz machine =*(
[16:56] <lordrayden> hi
[16:56] <neosaki> mrunagi_ Its not if you recompile the kernel on that machine along with KDE and run it minimalisticly.
[16:56] <neosaki> I'm running Kubuntu on my old 800mhz mobile terminal right now.
[16:57] <Saied> where can i find qt4.4 packages for gutsy?
[16:57] <mrunagi__> but not with x server right?
[16:58] <neosaki> Umm...yes with XServer
[16:58] <lordrayden> is there a music player in linux that allows me to rate the music I listen just like WMP?
[16:58] <mrunagi__> how do i recompile
[16:58] <mrunagi__> im on the live cd
[16:58] <lordrayden> on star basis :)
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> Saied» riddell's PPA
[16:58] <mrunagi__> !recompile
[16:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recompile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:58] <neosaki> Why the heck would I not put XServer on my terminal? I mean, I love command line, but X allows me to easily multitask.
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» amarok can do that
[16:58] <lordrayden> how?
[16:58] <mrunagi__> neosaki: can you help me recompile it so that it runs faster?
[16:58] <neosaki> mrunagi__: The LiveCD is going to be slow anyway you look at it.
[16:58] <Saied> nosrednaekim: where is it?
[16:59] <neosaki> You gotta install it first.
[16:59] <mrunagi__> lol yea but this is REALLY slow
[16:59] <lordrayden> i right click on it and no chance :(
[16:59] <neosaki> Umm... Yeah
[16:59] <neosaki> Install first
[16:59] <mrunagi__> k
[16:59] <mrunagi__> =)
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> Saied» google it
[17:00] <Saied> nosrednaekim: ok. tnx
[17:00] <neosaki> Also, make sure you know exaclty whats in your machine as far as hardware.
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» hum, I know i've seen it...
[17:00] <mrunagi__> i have a 4.3gig hard drive is that enough?
[17:00] <lordrayden> so? a better replacement 4 amarok?
[17:00] <Saied> nosrednaekim: it is for hardy or gutsy?
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> Saied» I'm not sure.
[17:01] <lordrayden> gutsy 4 me, 4 him, ida no :)
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» nah.. you just gotta find where it allows that, cause I swear it can do it... ask in #amarok
[17:01] <mrunagi__> neosaki: is it possible to install kubuntu without x running, this is taking forever
[17:01] <lordrayden> k tnx
[17:01] <Saied> nosrednaekim: maybe there are some source packages that i can build them for gutsy
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> Saied» mebe
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi__» use the laternate installer
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> *alternate
[17:02] <mrunagi__> thats not an option for me =(
[17:03] <mrunagi__> can i kill the x server and do it from the command line?
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi__» you can't
[17:04] <mrunagi__> lame
[17:04] <mrunagi__> its still reading the disk
[17:04] <lordrayden> btw, did anyone install *buntu on nforce3 /w amd64?
[17:04] <lordrayden> koz it don't work 4 me :(
[17:05] <mrunagi__> is it really suppose to take this long
[17:06] <mrunagi__> lol the mouse is locking up too
[17:07] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi__» how much RAM do you have?
[17:09] <lordrayden> tnx 4 the #amarok idea, I got my answer about rating music :)
[17:11] <Ralesk> good software is good, gdebi-kde just ate no less than 1100MB of memory just to install a 15MB deb file.
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> lordrayden» how do you do ti?
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» 0.o
[17:13] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim: I'm just as surprised.  Especially since it's python.
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> what package were you installing?
[17:13] <Ralesk> something I downloaded from Intel
[17:14] <Ralesk> I'll uninstall and see what dpkg does, I doubt it'll go above noticeable memory use.
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[17:16] <Ralesk> yeah, maxed out on 20 megs.
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> interesting... try install with gdebi again... i'd sayit was cause for a bug
[17:17] <Ralesk> I installed twice, first Linux killed it for eating all the memory
[17:17] <Ralesk> the second time it managed to install it:)
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> whew..
[17:19] <DDiuGG> ok I just completely reinstalled kubuntu from the 7.10 iso, I tried installing compiz for kubuntu but when I restarted the screen was just black. Not knowing much about linux I was forced to reinstall. Can anyone give me a hand getting compiz for kubuntu installed?
[17:19] <PhilRod> hi, I'm using kde 3.5.8 on gutsy. I noticed that links clicked in kmail do nothing. If I try, eg, "kfmclient exec http://www.kde.org" I also get nothing. Looks like something is up with my web browser settings, unless this is a known problem
[17:20] <PhilRod> the install is pretty new, so I'd be surprised if it's a config problem my end. Anyone got any ideas?
[17:21] <martijn81> DDiuGG: best is to ask in #compiz
[17:21] <PhilRod> oh yeah, running "konqueror http://www.kde.org" works fine
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> #compiz-fusion
[17:21] <DDiuGG> thank you
[17:23] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim: LOL, okay, this is fun... I opened my own software's package with gdebi (that's non-root yet) -- 69.9kB deb file, I know what's in it, and without touching, just displaying, the thing occupies about 75MB RAM already :D
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> whew
[17:24] <Arwen> is there any GPLv3 software in Ubuntu?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» kde4
[17:24]  * PhilRod reminds y'all that reported memory usage probably doesn't mean what you think it means
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» still thats awful
[17:24] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, is there a manpage for gpl3?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» don't know
[17:25] <Arwen> then how can I access the GPLv3?
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> Arwen» the liscence is available online
[17:26] <PhilRod> probably in the about page of apps too
[17:26] <Ralesk> 250 in my RAM, 200 iin my swap now while installing XD  and growing.
[17:26] <stdin> Aranel: /usr/share/common-licenses/ contains a few common licences including GPLv3
[17:26] <Arwen> ok
[17:26] <stdin> Arwen: ^
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» thats bug material right there :)
[17:31] <Ralesk> any idea where I could get a hold of gdebi people? (like, not sure if using the ubuntu bug tracker is necessarily a good idea)
[17:31] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[17:32] <jpatrick> !webcam
[17:32] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[17:33] <stdin> Ralesk: look in /usr/share/doc/gdebi-core/copyright, gdebi is an ubuntu product so using launchpad is as direct to upstream as you can get without sending a personal email to the author
[17:33] <hola> jpatrick: is it not mentioned
[17:34] <Ralesk> stdin: ah, thanks :)
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» I pinged the KDE port writer but he isn't answering.
[17:34] <Ralesk> I did an apt-cache show gdebi and saw an original maintainer with @debian.org address so I suddenly thought it might not be an ubuntu project afterall
[17:35] <Ralesk> I'll fiddle with launchpad then, thanks
[17:36] <ubuntu> Does somebody know how linux/kubuntu is worknig with internet. You see in windows it cannot identify (network) which is, directly connected thrue FiberLAN, but in Linux it just works directly out of the box. Wondering what the difference between them are.
[17:36] <stdin> Ralesk: when a product is in both debian and ubuntu the original maintainer is always the current debian maintainer, it's something that debian requested we do
[17:36] <Ralesk> ahh
[17:36] <ubuntu> sorry for ubuntu-name, I am on live-CD for the moment
[17:36] <Ralesk> kinda backwards, but eh :)
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» might want to ask in #windows since the problem is not with LInux
[17:39] <hola> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[17:39] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: It is not a problem, I just want to know how kubuntu is handling my internet connection.
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» through knetworkmnager
[17:40] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim. Yes but I meant a little more on the hardware and software connection.
[17:40] <ubuntu> How they are working together .P
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» uhhh... perfectly:) though the kernel I suppose
[17:44] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim: okay, well I suppose so. I am just curious what the difference between GNU/linux and windows are, when they handle the internet connection? ;P
[17:44] <BluesKaj> how to retag an avi file so that a stand alone player will see it as a divx file (which it is) . the tag was stripped when I wrongly used avidemux to join the 2 vcd files together
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:46] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim, stdin: bug reported :)
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» the kernel and netowrking stack.... windows uses a modified BSD stack since 2000 I think.
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» thanks
[17:46] <Ralesk> nosrednaekim: I think in Vista they dropped the BSD stack.
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> really?
[17:47] <ubuntu> allright, maybe thats the "problem" in Vista. But it does not work on either Vista or XP. Or uhm, it takes some years for the so called "network" to identify itself inside Windows.
[17:47] <Ralesk> at least that's what I heard -- there's some strange issue with their implementation of DHCP anyway -- can easily flood and kill a subnet with it :)
[17:48] <ubuntu> Sometimes it says limited connection, sometimes, local connection, but in Linux it just works :D
[17:48] <saki> o.O
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu» well... I would say that was a very fortunate set of events XD
[17:48] <Ralesk> limited connection is I think when there's no real connection, but Windows gives your network interface a Private IP address anyway
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk» yeah.. come to think of it, I heard that too
[17:49] <saki> I don't know what you've been doing, but I've had an easier time setting up Windows Servers than Linux ones. Not to say I don't try to enforce my clientel to use Linux servers were applicable, but lets just face it, you can setup a Windows Server that sees all of the other Windows machines on the network in a matter of minutes.
[17:50] <Ralesk> so what's this FiberLAN thing exactly -- do you directly connect via fiber optics or is it a normal ethernet LAN you plug into your computer?
[17:50] <hatman> Hi all !
[17:50] <ubuntu> Ralesk: okay, but there is a "real" connection. Oh and worth to mention, we just got the FiberLAN, maybe could be it has not fit into the surrounding yet :D
[17:51] <hatman> I'm tying to do an "update version" (to from feisty to gusty) but my adept software doesn't show any "update version" button
[17:51] <jaguilera> hi, just updated using adept updater and when it finished I got this bt: http://pastebin.ca/915286
[17:51] <hatman> any idea ? I looked to some bug posts and on forums, but no tip worked for me
[17:51] <ubuntu> Ralesk: It is just directly, or almost after the modem translator ;) I just drag a LAN-cable (CAT5), directly into my computer.
[17:51] <jaguilera> i'm not sure if it gives any real info on the problem, worth filling a bug?
[17:52] <Ralesk> ubuntu: ah, so then it's likely ethernet as far as the computer is concerned, the fiber is one step later
[17:52] <jaguilera> seems like some object is deleted in the update using delete directly while having some slots connected to it...
[17:52] <jaguilera> s/update/updater/
[17:52] <Ralesk> that should Just Work in windows too, so that's really weird that it doesn't!
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> hatman» did you add the fiesty-proposed repo?
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> !uograde
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uograde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:53] <hatman> nosrednaekim: in my apt-source.list ?
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> jaguilera» did the update fail?
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> hatman» yup
[17:53] <martijn81> damn, anyone knows how to rescue a intel mac from an installation with grub?
[17:53] <ubuntu> Ralesk: yes, you could think so. Seems windows cannot handle pure Fiber directly. On the other hand, for the moment there is no router or switch. It is just, yes connected to fiber.
[17:54] <jaguilera> nosrednaekim: nope, apt-get doesn't complain about anything
[17:54] <hatman> nosrednaekim: yes, i have this: deb ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[17:54] <Ralesk> something does convert from optics to copper wire, so hmm :)  but yeah, maybe the protocol is something else that Windows just doesn't want to deal with... no drivers supplied by the FiberLAN provider or anything?
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> jaguilera» to be certain, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" IDK if its worth a bug report
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> hatman» did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[17:55] <hatman> nosrednaekim: yes sure
[17:56] <jaguilera> nosrednaekim: dis-upgrade is clean aswell.. i think that given the bt lack on real directions to the problem i'll just leave alone, ie won't report it as a bug
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> and its still not working?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> jaguilera» ok... sounds good.
[17:56] <djdarkman> hello, is there a way to totally restart the sound system in kubuntu?
[17:56] <jaguilera> nosrednaekim: thx
[17:56] <PhilRod> ok, tracked it down: it was trying to run "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient openURL %u text/html" when I'm in kde3 (although I have 4.0.1 installed too). There are two "konqueror"s listed in file associations, and the kde 4 one was at the top. Moving the kde3 one up fixes it, but that's a packaging bug. Where should I report it?
[17:57] <hatman> nosrednaekim: but no "Version update" button. I normaly use apt-get (is there a way to do the version update using it) ?
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman» /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[17:57] <ubuntu> Ralesk: No, unfortunatly not. Anyway, they are going to install a multimediacentral in the house, which means switch/router later. So I shall see if there gonna be a difference. I am just curious about this situation, how Windows handles it. And oh, sorry, I forgot. I f you wait darn long time, sometimes Windows accept the connection and it works without problems. So it seems it is windows which is :D uhum bad ...
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> hatman» yeah "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:58] <djdarkman> nosrednaekim: that doesn`t work
[17:58] <ubuntu_> _
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> djdarkman» try going into system settings->sound and multimedia, changing some valu, changing it back and hitting apply
[17:58] <hatman> nosrednaekim: both command tell me: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:59] <ubuntu> Ralesk, nosrednaekim: thanks for your time, appreciate it. Must go now.
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> hatman» right.... replace all "fiesty" in your sources.list with "gutsy" and get rid of any non-offical repositories
[17:59] <Ralesk> ubuntu: heh, sweet -- well I think that once they install a capable router, it'll likely give you decent Ethernet frames on the CAT5 :)
[17:59] <Ralesk> until then, ubuntu time :)))
[18:00] <ubuntu> Ralesk: yes ;)
[18:00] <ubuntu> I hope I can migrate full time into kubuntu/ubuntu in the future. Maybe when KDE4 is more stable and Adobe Photoshop work 100% in Linux/QT, who knows.
[18:01] <hatman> nosrednaekim: I wanted to do the version update using the usual kubuntu way (GUI) because i read (from a forum) that s/fiesty/gusty/ in source.list could cause many dependencies problems, no ?
[18:01] <ubuntu> cya later.
[18:01] <Ralesk> use kde3 and well, photoshop works... mostly XD
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> hatman» I don't think it can.... if you don't have any 3rd party repositories
[18:02] <hatman> hatman: ahh okay... Hope you're right ;-)
[18:02] <lordrayden> I would like a way to simply share a folder in my kubuntu desktop 710 with my XP laptop without security risks, does anyone know a good HOWTO link?
[18:02] <Ralesk> hatman: doing it with a kubuntu provided GUI does pretty much exactly the same as yourself manually replacing all feisty with gutsy :)
[18:02] <Ralesk> so there should be no harm in doing it by hand
[18:03] <hatman> Ralesk: ahh okay ! I didn't know about this and i found no info about this too...
[18:03] <Ralesk> just remember to always do an apt-get update before any upgrade
[18:03] <hatman> Ralesk: yes sure ! thanks
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> !smaba
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> !samba
[18:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smaba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:04] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:04] <Ralesk> I personally always do a simple upgrade first, which will hold back software that need to install or remove things
[18:04] <Ralesk> and if that ran fine, then I'll dist-upgrade
[18:04] <Ralesk> I'm not sure if others agree with me on this, but it never gave me any trouble :)
[18:04] <hatman> Ralesk: you mean with the s/fesity/gubsy/ in the source.list ?
[18:05] <Ralesk> yeh, open /etc/apt/sources.list in some editor (kate for example)
[18:05] <Ralesk> which you can do by running: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:05] <hatman> okay, will try it ! thanks to Ralesk and nosrednaekim for your tips !
[18:06] <rpope904> hey guys.. quick question.. I just installed kununtu, but the internet doesn't work.. I edited the network config file, /etc/network/*** and it just shows the loopback entry.. I am not too familiar with linux anymore, its been years.. but, I know it works, as I uninstalled slackware to install kubuntu, and it worked under slackware
[18:06] <Ralesk> then you can try to search&replace feisty with gutsy (do mind the spelling)
[18:06] <somekool> how do I list all packages that depends on a specific package... GTK for example ?
[18:06] <weedar> rpope904: are you conneted via a cable or wireless? What machine do you have?
[18:06] <Arwen> somekool, apt-cache rdepends
[18:06] <Arwen> note that this doesn't distinguish between recommend and depend
[18:07] <Ralesk> somekool: that, or use adept and play around in it :)  that's what I tend to do
[18:07] <rpope904> weedar: its a cable, dynamic IP.. so it'll use dhcp, and its an intel series adaptor
[18:07] <somekool> i dont like GUI tools
[18:07] <PhilRod> rpope904: have you tried with the gui tools?
[18:07] <weedar> rpope904: intel cards usually work great, have you tried using knetwormanager?
[18:08] <rpope904> I went into the system and network config, it doesnt list anything there..
[18:08] <Ralesk> somekool: well neither do I usually, I almost always use apt-get directly... but adept is very good for removing my excess packages and to search around in the installed stuff.
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> rpope904» do "sudo lshw"
[18:08] <Arwen> somekool, apt-cache isn't GUI....
[18:08] <morslok> Hi, i'm trying to use soundkonverter to convert .aifs to .mp3s, is that possible?
[18:09] <Ralesk> so do give it a spin, it's a lot more comfortable than playing around with apt-*
[18:09] <rpope904> i'm not logged in to it right now, had to come back into windows to get here.. what should the network file look like, the /etc/network/** and, how to I reload it once I change it?
[18:10] <Ralesk> reload is sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> rpope904» there should be a "auto eth0" line
[18:11] <Ralesk> dhcp is I think "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in the /etc/network/interfaces file (granted your ethernet interface is eth0)
[18:11] <rpope904> yeah, there wasn't one, I am trying to find the syntax of it and add it myself
[18:11] <rpope904> ah
[18:11] <rpope904> ok
[18:13] <rpope904> I am gonna try it, if not, i'll use my laptop to get back around
[18:13] <rpope904> thanks
[18:13] <Ralesk> good luck
[18:20] <dana> I had a filesystem failure and lost my dpkg file lists, i.e. dpkg is not able to reinstall packages due to failed removals, any recommendation I can force it ?
[18:21] <Arwen> dana, recover from backups
[18:22] <dana> arwen, thanks but there are none
[18:22] <Arwen> then go cry
[18:23]  * dana cries ...
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> be nice Arwen
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> dana» thats a bad problem. I'd say backup and reinstall
[18:23] <Arwen> well, it's true...
[18:23] <Arwen> sorry, patience is low due to lack of eyeglasses
[18:24] <Roey> dana:  hey, great nick
[18:24] <Roey> dana:  (my cousin's name)
[18:25] <dana> nosrednaekim: nice try, i did a backup but the laptop got a broken cd rom,so i pictured it is easier to reinstall packages from net than trying to install the harddisk in a desktop somewhere...
[18:25] <Arwen> Arwen: name of a Russian pr0n star
[18:25] <Arwen> anyway....
[18:25] <Roey> ah
[18:25] <astan> hello. in /boot/grub/menu.lst i read "lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below. DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs".
[18:25] <Arwen> dana, does dpkg still work? reinstall ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop
[18:25] <astan> what does this mean?
[18:25] <Roey> dana:  dana in hebrew is a female name, but I've found that in the USA, it's more unisex
[18:25] <Arwen> then keep installing what you remember having installed
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> dana» your'e probably not going to be able to get it working perfectly if dpkg is b0rked
[18:26] <astan> why shouldn't i uncomment them? i mean, i want to change them.
[18:26] <Arwen> dpkg == single point of failure
[18:26] <_Enissay_> i've installed my ati card driver by enabling restricted driver, but display is too slow... what's wrong?
[18:26] <Arwen> :-\
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> astan» then sopy and paste
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> *copy
[18:26] <astan> and i don't get "Just edit them to you needs".. if i just edit without uncommenting, they won't be taken into effect, will they?
[18:26] <dana> dpkg and the system are still working, just dpkg is unable to remove packages from the system, as it is missing the list of files it installed for this package.
[18:26] <Arwen> _Enissay_, what part of it is slow?
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> _Enissay_» are you running XGL?
[18:27] <astan> nosrednaekim: copy and paste?
[18:27] <Arwen> astan, they're commented because they're not valid grub options
[18:27] <Arwen> astan, the update-grub script reads them and changes the actual options
[18:27] <_Enissay_> Arwen: everything
[18:27] <_Enissay_> nosrednaekim: yes
[18:27] <Arwen> _Enissay_, does it work without XGL?
[18:27] <astan> Arwen: okay. so if i want acpi=off for all kernels, where should i edit?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> _Enissay_» are you running compiz?
[18:28] <Arwen> astan, DEFOPTIONS iirc
[18:28] <Arwen> just append it
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> astan» in every single kernel
[18:28] <dana> I am more looking for an option to tell dpkg to forget all it's partly knowledge of packages installed and reinstall the complete list.
[18:28] <astan> Arwen: hm. i can't find any DEFOPTIONS in menu.lst to append to :7
[18:28] <astan> s/7/\//
[18:29] <_Enissay_> nosrednaekim: not now, but it's better with compiz in the begining, after a while, it became slower
[18:29] <Arwen> astan, there should be a line "# defoptions="
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> _Enissay_» running XGL without compiz is going to be very slow.
[18:29] <_Enissay_> Arwen: idon't know.... how to do that
[18:29] <Arwen> um... if you know how to install XGL, you should know how to uninstall it...
[18:30] <sourcemaker> my question is off-topic... but do you know a web interface for software QA? Just a task list which have to be checked...?
[18:30] <aharoon> i want to read book thats *.chm what program open this kind of books?
[18:30] <astan> Arwen: ah, lowercase. thanks.
[18:30] <Arwen> I suspect you don't have 3d running, but that's difficult to detect in XGL
[18:30] <mrunagi>  i messed up my partitions =(
[18:30] <_Enissay_> Arwen: right.. :)
[18:30] <mrunagi> they wont mount anymore
[18:30] <Arwen> astan, run "update-grub" after you edit it
[18:30] <mrunagi> it says permission denied =(
[18:31] <astan> Arwen: okay.. but just to be clear; so i should _not_ uncomment the # defoptions=quiet splash after having added the acpi=off? just run update-grub?
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» system settings->advanced->disks and partitions
[18:31] <Arwen> do not uncomment it
[18:31] <astan> Arwen: okay. thanks a lot.
[18:32] <aharoon> i want to read book thats *.chm what program open this kind of books?
[18:32] <mrunagi> YAY! thanks nosrednaekim that rocks
[18:32] <mrunagi> i love kubuntu
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> XD
[18:33] <Arwen> aharoon, there was a chmviewer app, but I don't know if it actually works
[18:33] <mrunagi> ubuntu doesnt do that =)
[18:33] <dana> aharoon: that is compiled html or windows help files, check with apt-get search chm for something matching
[18:33] <Arwen> I would recommend using 7z to extract it and viewing it in Konqueror or Firefox
[18:33] <aharoon> ok i'll try it
[18:33] <mrunagi> !session
[18:33] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:33] <hagabaka> apt-cache search \\bchm\\b
[18:34] <dipu> wuts up guys
[18:35] <_Enissay_> Arwen: nosrednaekim: it seems that it's working without XGL... sorry
[18:36] <Arwen> _Enissay_, check for direct rendering - I suspect it's not actually functional.
[18:39] <mrunagi> what is the command issued for control alt exc
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» the task manager?
[18:40] <mrunagi> !session
[18:40] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:40] <mrunagi> i dont have a save session
[18:40] <dana> arwen: update, i do have the dpkg.status in /var/backups and current ones in /var/lib/dpkg/status, that is i still know what is installed, but i am missing some removal scripts of the installed packages from /var/lib/dpkg/
[18:41] <Arwen> hmm, that would be bad.
[18:41] <ian|> Hi all! Is there anything like BSD unions on Linux?
[18:41] <Arwen> dana, can you force reinstall every package?
[18:43] <dana> arwen, i am trying hard but i have not found the right dashed option for dpkg yet
[18:43] <mrunagi> my drives dont sit on the desktop anymore
[18:43] <nosrednaekim> ian|» unions?
[18:45] <aharoon> i have ntfs partitions i can mount them by command. i installed ntfs-config and i edited fstab file but when i klik on ntfs-config icon it doesnt open nothing happened i tried to reinstall it nothing
[18:47] <nosrednaekim> aharoon» yes, you can... but I do not know how ;P
[18:48] <aharoon> it should open  a window even it couldnt mount my partitions but it doesnt open any window]
[18:51] <markit> once installed kompozer, everytime I click a link in konqueror topic is open with konpozer instead of konqueror :( I've modified file association preferences, but seems not to work (or do I have to logogg-login again?). Any idea?
[18:53] <dana> aharoon: try to start ntfs-config from the command line, then you can see its messages
[18:54] <tomer> hi all. whats a good movie editing software for kubuntu? i need something that will allow me to take avi files from camera and edit them together to form a movie
[18:54] <tomer> then id like to export these to a common file format
[18:56] <tomer> ok i guess ill try kino since no one has answered
[18:57] <Arwen> tomer, use Cinelerra
[18:57] <tomer> why not kino arwen
[18:57] <Arwen> because Cinelerra is better
[18:58] <markit> try both, is Free software :)
[18:58] <tomer> ok ill try both. thanks guys
[18:58] <markit> btw, last time I checked, was no able to make work satisfactory any of them, but maybe is my problem
[18:59] <aharoon> dana i tried it gave me message for asking about enable write support or read support
[18:59] <mrunagi> compiz and kde dont get along huh
[19:00] <dana> aharoon: can you paste the error line ?
[19:00] <aharoon> it didnt gave me errors it worked from command but from kmenu it didnt
[19:01] <markit> is there a channel dedicated to Hardy? last kernel gives me a lot of troubles
[19:02] <jinzougen> Hey, I just installed kubuntu and I tried to build aterm and gcc failed to find crt1.o...
[19:02] <jinzougen> Anyone can help me out.
[19:02] <jinzougen> A quick google search leads me to believe it has something to do with the fact that I have an amd64 processor.
[19:04] <stdin> jinzougen: install build-essential ?
[19:04] <jinzougen> where do I get that?
[19:05] <dana> jinzougen: apt-get install build-essentials
[19:05] <dana> aharoon: did you answer something on the commandline to make itwork?
[19:06] <jinzougen> Cool thanks, let's see if this helps.
[19:06] <jinzougen> btw why didn't "build-essential" show up in adept
[19:07] <stdin> should do, it's in main and on the install CD
[19:07] <aharoon> it just asked me to use sudo idid it worked in kmenu it doesnt respond anyway
[19:07] <jinzougen> beautiful it worked. Thanks a lot.
[19:08] <aharoon> dana  it just asked me to use sudo idid it worked in kmenu it doesnt respond anyway
[19:08] <dale_> hi all, this is probably a stupid question but what is the command to start kde or xfce from the command line.
[19:10] <dana> aharoon: check the icons settingsinkmenu, it should have kdesu in front of the command
[19:10] <aharoon> ok i'll se
[19:10] <Lynoure> dale_: which one? /etc/init.d/kdm start   ought to work for kde
[19:10] <rjune> I'm having a problem with k3b and my cdrom burner, k3b says cdrecord has no permissions to the device.
[19:10] <rjune> this isn't quite a stock install, but it's all from the stock repos
[19:10] <aharoon> dana gksu ntfs-config
[19:11] <michael_a> adamk: the menu problem continues but i noticed it only happens in kde programs, ie. firefox doesnt do that
[19:12]  * Signil is back.
[19:12] <DexterF> hi
[19:13] <DexterF> wnated to install krita from feisty-backports. aptitude wants to get 137MB of upgrades now, including dosbox and git-core amongst others.
[19:13] <DexterF> why deos it want to upgrade dosbox when I want to up the painter app krita..?
[19:14] <aharoon> dana i changed it and worked thanks for hlping
[19:18] <dana> aharoon: cheers
[19:19] <aharoon> another question about azureus please could i?
[19:20] <aharoon> dana another question about azureus please could i?
[19:21] <vzduch> !ask | aharoon
[19:21] <ubotu> aharoon: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:24] <aharoon> dana i opened azureus first time it worked ok but in second time i found some buttons looks weired its loooks like chineese word and other looks fine english words i dont know why i dont use any chineese language and i installed azureus in english language why it do like this?
[19:24] <dana> aharoon: you are welcome
[19:28] <ilya> oxyeTb
[19:29] <Ralesk> o_O
[19:31] <dana> aharoon: try "LANG=en_US.UTF-8 azureus" on the command line
[19:33] <aharoon> dana sudo: LANG=en_US.UTF-8: command not found
[19:33] <Ralesk> why are you sudoing?
[19:34] <dana> Arwen: any ideas on reinstalling kubuntu from inside a running kubuntu, as I only have a working DVD attached to the USB port ?
[19:34] <dana> i.e. no chance on booting from CD
[19:35] <aharoon> dana: ok the command worked without sudo nut it didnt change anything
[19:37] <dana> aharoon: try to figure out the preferences screen in azureus, sorry i do not know azureus myself
[19:37] <Ralesk> yeah, I was about to suggest that
[19:37] <aharoon> ok nevr mind
[19:37] <Ralesk> aharoon: another thing you could do is use ktorrent
[19:38] <rockprincess> hi all! quick question.....where do I put .mo files for kde4 ?! is it the same directory as kde3?
[19:38] <Ralesk> though that's really just avoiding the problem rather than solving it, heh :)
[19:38] <dana> anyone knows how to install from an external dvd drive attached via usb, when the bios does not support that ?
[19:39] <aharoon> the proplem is i cannt read it in that way its unreadable and ktorrnt doesnt work as speed as i want i tried to config it but no chanse azureus work speed  goof
[19:39] <dana> though i have a running kubuntu on harddisk
[19:39] <jpatrick> rockprincess: one sec
[19:40] <marcel> how to configure the runlevel? I want my system to start in runlevel 3 which means without X11 support?
[19:40] <dana> marcel: pass init=3 to the kernel on boot
[19:41] <ere4si> dana: this might help - http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[19:41] <marcel> dana: is there a way to put this in a config file?
[19:41] <dana> ere4si: thanks will read it
[19:41] <ere4si> k
[19:41] <dana> marcel: check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:42] <marcel> dana: thanks for your help!
[19:42] <JoshOvki> hi guys, just a quick question, if i have 2 linux o/s installed say   kubuntu + debian (for instantace) would it be possible for them to use the same swap file?
[19:42] <Arwen> dana, before you could reinstall from within Kubuntu, you'd need a functional dpkg setup
[19:42] <Arwen> so...
[19:43] <Arwen> JoshOvki, yes. Just don't hibernate
[19:43] <JoshOvki> Arwen: Thank you for the confirmation, i dont hibernate anyway.
[19:44] <JoshOvki> thanks again, bye :)
[19:44] <jpatrick> rockprincess: /usr/share/locale
[19:44] <nuxil> marcel, if its just X you want. you can just chomd -x /etc/init.d/kdm
[19:44] <nuxil> *dont want
[19:45] <nuxil> err
[19:46] <bertvdp> hi, I have just installed kubuntu from the kde4 liveCD, is it not meant for installing or something cause it's acting really strange
[19:47] <dana> Arwen: well my dpkg binary still works, /var/lib/dpkg/info seems to be mostly empty and perl5.8 has problems...
[19:49] <dana> ere4si: lubi looks nice, i will try smb image as it worked on earlier boot problems, though i do not know if it can boot usb-drives as well ?
[19:53] <bertvdp> sorry, can anyone here help me with the kde4 problem I just posted ?
[19:54] <dana> bertvdp: can you give more details ?
[19:56] <bertvdp> so I installed from the kubuntu 7.10 kde4 liveCD, and I couldn't get it to update (no package manager???) so I just did a sudo apt-get upgrade, then I tried to do some system administration stuff, but it doesn't accept my password and also the loginscreen looks a bit stretched
[20:01] <mrunagi> what is the command line equivelant of ctrl alt esc
[20:01] <hydrogen> `kill`
[20:03] <dana> bertvdp: use your normal user password for system administration
[20:04] <bertvdp> it says my password is not right
[20:04] <shadowflier> I have a simmilar problem I cant install anithing
[20:04] <shadowflier> and I dont know what other administative acount besidedes the only one there is
[20:04] <bertvdp> I typ the password for the user 'bert' and it takes a lot of time before it answers and then says that it's wrong
[20:04] <dana> bertvdp: do you have multiple users ?
[20:04] <bertvdp> dana, no, a clean installation
[20:04] <shadowflier> same here
[20:05] <dana> bertvdp: did you do sudo apt-get update before the upgrade you mentioned?
[20:05] <bertvdp> yeah off course
[20:05] <mrunagi> what is the command line equivelant of ctrl alt esc
[20:06] <dana> bertvdp: no problem with password then ?
[20:06] <bertvdp> I can use sudo
[20:06] <bertvdp> but the graphical frontend of kde messes it up
[20:07] <mrunagi> =/
[20:07] <bertvdp> mrunagi, what does ctrl alt esc do ? :P
[20:08] <dana> bertvdp: did you try 'kdesu adept' or something similar ?
[20:09] <bertvdp> not yet, give me 2 sec.
[20:09] <mrunagi> gives you a cursor to select a window to kill bertvdp
[20:10] <bertvdp> that works, but I get an other screen then I usually get
[20:10] <bertvdp> mrunagi, you kill stuff using "sudo kill [PID nr]"
[20:10] <shadowflier> I am trying to install gimp from sudo apt-get install gimp but it gives me a message "E: Couldn't find package gimp" why?
[20:11] <mrunagi> if i knew the pid id love to use that but i dont which is why im asking about ctrl alt esc
[20:11] <mrunagi> !info gimp
[20:11] <ubotu> gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu0.7.10.1 (gutsy), package size 3805 kB, installed size 10488 kB
[20:11] <mrunagi> dunno shadowflier
[20:11] <markit> hi, how can I install an older version of the kernel, since does not appear anymore in the repo?
[20:11] <bertvdp> shadowflier, you don't have your entire repository I think, try sudo apt-get upgrade and otherwise edit sources.list
[20:11] <shadowflier> it does it with all the packages I am trying to get :(
[20:12] <shadowflier> I did the update no change
[20:12] <Arwen> do another 'apt-get update'?
[20:12] <Arwen> or not
[20:12] <bertvdp> *update sorrty
[20:12] <mrunagi> i hate how compiz takes over my shortcuts
[20:12] <Arwen> shadowflier, take a look at your sources.list
[20:12] <bertvdp> mrunagi, you can search on shortcuts and then disable them
[20:12] <mrunagi> what do you mean bertvdp
[20:12] <shadowflier> yah thanks, the update gave me a new message this time, no admin privileges :(
[20:13] <SSJ_GZ> mrunagi: xkill, maybe?
[20:13] <prince_jammys> hah
[20:13] <mrunagi> ah ty it is xkill\
[20:14] <bertvdp> mrunagi, in ccsm, if you do an advanced search you can search on values (aka shortcuts), and then just search for the beginning of your shortcut, and then change it
[20:14] <bertvdp> Arwen, dana, still don't have an idea why things are going wrong ?
[20:15] <shadowflier> arwen how do I look at the source list, where is ti? (I am new)
[20:15] <bertvdp> shadowflier, ow you are new, sorry
[20:15] <bertvdp> shadowflier: do you know how to use a terminal ?
[20:16] <shadowflier> yah
[20:16] <bertvdp> do you know how you can edit files from the command line ?
[20:16] <shadowflier> like text files with vim yah, other no
[20:16] <mrunagi> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list shadowflier
[20:16] <bertvdp> that was what I was going to say :p
[20:17] <prince_jammys> kdesudo
[20:17] <mrunagi> sudo kdesudo whatever
[20:18] <mrunagi> interesting i added xkill as command 0 but it wont execute
[20:18] <jpatrick> !kdesudo | mrunagi
[20:18] <ubotu> mrunagi: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[20:19] <dana> ere4si: ok, will try to boot lubi ... cu@all
[20:19] <bertvdp> okey, I have found one of the problems
[20:19] <ere4si> luck to you dana
[20:19] <bertvdp> kpackage doesn't work without smartpm and that's not installed by default
[20:19] <thewhitepelican> does anyone here use both kde 3.5 and kde 4.0?
[20:20] <shadowflier> I need to install that one too
[20:21] <TimS> Does gimp have a print option?
[20:21] <TimS> I cant find it
[20:23] <dana> ere4si: did you try it once ? i did not succeed in installing it into grub ..
[20:24] <ere4si> dana: never tried it - saw it recommended once
[20:33] <erban> CIAO
[20:33] <erban> A TUTTI
[20:34] <erban> HELLO
[20:34] <erban> EVERYBODY
[20:34] <erban> I'M NEW
[20:34] <vzduch> !medibuntu > vzduch
[20:35] <erban> SOMEBODY KNOW...............WHY DON'T FUNCTION MY SOUND CARD
[20:35] <erban> PLEASE
[20:35] <vzduch> !caps | erban
[20:35] <ubotu> erban: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> !caps | erban
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> !sound
[20:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:42] <jpatrick> !it | erban
[20:42] <ubotu> erban: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:42] <jpatrick> no0tic: ^
[20:42] <erban> e come si fa
[20:42] <erban> ad andarci
[20:43] <jpatrick> erban: /join #ubuntu-it
[20:46] <no0tic> jpatrick, thanks
[20:47] <jpatrick> no0tic: did he make it?
[20:47] <roomulo> hello, there..
[20:47] <no0tic> jpatrick, yes, thanks
[20:47] <roomulo> after the last update of kubuntu (gutsy)
[20:48] <roomulo> the xine returns this error when i try to play rmvb files:
[20:48] <roomulo> "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so"
[20:48] <roomulo> the w32codecs package is installed
[20:49] <roomulo> can anybody help me?
[20:50] <Oloughlin75> !rmvb
[20:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <jussi01> !find cook.so
[20:51] <ubotu> Package/file cook.so does not exist in gutsy
[20:51] <roomulo> o_O
[20:52] <jussi01> roomulo: try reinstallingte w32codecs
[20:52] <roomulo> i've tried =/
[20:53] <temsx> can I get help?
[20:53] <roomulo> i guess i'll try to reinstall the xine
[20:54] <wightstraker> Any idea why a splash screen would stall startup?
[20:55] <wightstraker> I had to disable it in grub
[20:56] <free1> I'm thinking that kde4 is looking sweet
[20:56] <free1> but is trying to install kubuntu on my machine going to brick it?
[20:57] <free1> The last kubuntu install I tried... nothing worked
[20:57] <free1> nothing
[20:57]  * Signil is away: Gone away for now.
[20:57] <free1> I heard that
[20:58] <stdin> !away > Signil
[20:58] <free1> make it do what it do
[20:59] <MrJigsaw> Anyone in here knows anything about unnotek VirtualBox' ?
[20:59] <Lynoure> !ask
[20:59] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:00] <MrJigsaw> Okay.. so do anyone know how to get into my PC when im in the virtual box? like a key to change it or something ? :|
[21:00] <MrJigsaw> change back to linux from the XP vbox
[21:00] <tekstacy> I'm having trouble mounting an external ntfs drive.
[21:01] <tekstacy> I get the error hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[21:01] <tekstacy> What's gives?
[21:01] <snarkster> aternoon
[21:01] <MrJigsaw> You need to mount the drive tekstacy :-)
[21:01] <tekstacy> MrJigsaw, Left CTRL + Right mouse
[21:01] <snarkster> I was trying to get starcraft to work and keep getting cant set screen from 32 to 8 BPP how do i change that?
[21:02] <lordrayden> hi, what decent replacement 4 XP dc++ exists in kubuntu?
[21:02] <tekstacy> Yeah, I get that error when I try to mount it
[21:02] <lordrayden> linuxdcpp seems odd
[21:02] <Lynoure> MrJigsaw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476568 mentions one or two potential ways, cannot test them for you now
[21:03] <MrJigsaw> right ctrl + right mouse works :D
[21:03] <lordrayden> get a hammer ;)
[21:03] <tekstacy> right ctrl + L is cool too, it integrates them both
[21:05] <lordrayden> hey, is there any dc++ client in kubuntu besides linuxdcpp?
[21:05] <lordrayden> or in linux?
[21:05] <snarkster> !wine
[21:05] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:06] <swatto> hi all, is it possible to get rid of the main panel with the KDE menu buttons on etc - and just have the buttons floating on the desktop?
[21:06] <lordrayden> transparent panel?!?
[21:07] <lordrayden> or 3d desktop?
[21:07] <swatto> hmm i dont know?
[21:07] <swatto> just wondering if it is possible and if so how to do it
[21:08] <lordrayden> set panel transparency as u like, but the buttons stay, not float :)
[21:08] <hydrogen> it is in kde4
[21:08] <hydrogen> not in kde3
[21:10] <swatto> can i install kde 4 or will that muck with my compiz etc?
[21:10] <lordrayden> yeap, I remember now...
[21:10] <lordrayden> kinda like vista toolbar
[21:10] <aharoon> how to show my  ip???
[21:11] <lordrayden> ifconfig
[21:11] <aharoon> thanks i was using ipconfig
[21:11] <erban> HI
[21:12] <erban> HELP
[21:12] <lordrayden> ifconfig
[21:12] <lordrayden> not ipconfig
[21:12] <aharoon> ok thx
[21:12] <erban> MY CARK SUOND NO FUOND THE SISTEM
[21:13] <BluesKaj> !it | erban
[21:13] <ubotu> erban: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:15] <hydrogen> !yell | erban
[21:15] <ubotu> erban: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:15] <hydrogen> or not!
[21:15] <jpatrick> hydrogen: he's muted so don't worry
[21:15] <hydrogen> wuteva
[21:16] <hydrogen> oh.. nice
[21:16] <hydrogen> 100second ping
[21:16] <hydrogen> :/
[21:16] <swatto> anyone know how i can install kde 4
[21:16] <lordrayden> yall *buntu users, only use wine+dc++? isn't it any native dc++ client?
[21:17] <jpatrick> !kde4 > swatto
[21:17] <swatto> thanks :)
[21:18] <lordrayden> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[21:18] <jpatrick> lordrayden: KDE4 help in #kubuntu-kde4 tho :)
[21:19] <lordrayden> :)
[21:19] <mrunagi> what does kde stand for
[21:20] <jussi01> Kdesktop environment
[21:20] <regeya> k desktop environment (used to be 'kool')
[21:20] <lordrayden> ida no, I picked it over gnome koz i feel better with it, try both, pick what u like
[21:22] <lordrayden> does wine and dc++ work out of the box? ;)
[21:23] <lordrayden> or do i have to sweat?
[21:23] <dana> erban: ciao, which soundcard model do you have a problem with ?
[21:23] <dana> lordrayden: what is dc++ used for ?
[21:23] <lordrayden> p2p file transfer
[21:24] <lordrayden> direct connection sort of
[21:24] <dana> lordrayden: what protocoll does it use ?
[21:25] <lordrayden> tcp 411
[21:25] <Ralesk> DC++ is some IRC-like something, but that's about all I know of it
[21:25] <Ralesk> I never liked it myself, because most hubs required me to already have like 5G+ of shared data...  so I said screw them :P
[21:25] <dana> Ralesk: i recall that even napster had some IRC like chat built in...
[21:25] <Ralesk> and this was when all I had was a 6.4G drive
[21:27] <Ralesk> true -- in any case, it's a completely unrelated network to napster, ed2k and winmx (and torrent)
[21:28] <BluesKaj> Ralesk, are you talking about DCC file transfer ?
[21:28] <Ralesk> lordrayden: you might want to try to install linuxdcpp
[21:28] <lordrayden> napster? dont awake the dead :)
[21:28] <Ralesk> BluesKaj: I'm talking about DC++
[21:28] <BluesKaj> oh yeah , that lame thing
[21:29] <lordrayden> tnx, but no, I cant search or download with it, it's bad
[21:29] <Ralesk> according to adept, there's nothing else in the repository.
[21:29] <lordrayden> as a matter in fact 2morrow ill get rid of it if it dont work
[21:29] <Ralesk> so the only other thing I can suggest is to google.
[21:30] <lordrayden> :)
[21:30] <Ralesk> if you really want p2p and good searching capabilities, go iwht torrent and ed2k...
[21:30] <dana> lordrayden: try dcgui or rccp respectively
[21:30] <lordrayden> tnx
[21:30] <lordrayden> will do
[21:31] <slow-motion> hi
[21:31]  * dana is going for another reboot ...
[21:31] <lordrayden> apt-get or google the deb? or source? what did u find?
[21:31] <lordrayden> happy reboot dana :)
[21:31] <dana> lordrayden: apt-get install dcgui rccp
[21:31] <lordrayden> aham
[21:32] <Ralesk> lordrayden: now I searched for direct connect and it brought up the programs dana mentioned, but also "valknut" -- which is a qt/kde frontend for DC
[21:32] <Ralesk> so for kubuntu, you might want to try that
[21:32] <Ralesk> sudo apt-get install valknut
[21:33] <lordrayden> tried, no good, very korky interface, ... it's bad valknut
[21:34] <root_______> hola
[21:34] <Ralesk> ah, okay
[21:34] <lordrayden> hiya root
[21:34] <Flare183> !es
[21:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:34] <root_______> vayan a mamar todos
[21:34] <mrdigital> is the Linksys WPC11 Wifi card compat with kubuntu?
[21:34] <Flare183> mrdigital: yeap
[21:34] <jussi01> !hardware | mrdigital
[21:34] <ubotu> mrdigital: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:34] <Flare183> mrdigital: i know i'm using it right now
[21:35] <mrdigital> how do i install it/
[21:35]  * dana re
[21:35] <Flare183> mrdigital: it uses a broadcom firmware
[21:35] <jpatrick> nabend dana
[21:35] <bj_> I am newbie here    How do I get this to work??  Anyone help me out?
[21:36] <Flare183> bj_: what to work?
[21:36] <mrdigital> Flare183: dont help
[21:36] <jussi01> bj_: what to work?
[21:36] <dana> jpatrick: moin =)
[21:36] <bj_> getting files or listings??
[21:36] <lordrayden> how do I register on this channel?
[21:36] <jussi01> !register
[21:36] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[21:36] <Flare183> !register | lordrayden
[21:36] <ubotu> lordrayden: please see above
[21:36] <Flare183> oops sorry
[21:36] <jpatrick> Flare183: don't worry
[21:36] <jussi01> hehe
[21:36] <Ralesk> wow, ubotu is smart :)
[21:36] <Flare183> yeap
[21:36] <Ralesk> no unnecessary repeating, hehe
[21:37] <Flare183> ubotu is a bot
[21:37] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[21:37] <Flare183> haha
[21:37] <Ralesk> Flare183: I know
[21:37] <Ralesk> oh :D
[21:37] <Ralesk> nice answer :D
[21:37] <Flare183> mrdigital: ok now you need two file
[21:37] <dana> !ask | bj_
[21:37] <ubotu> bj_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:38] <Flare183> mrdigital: here you go
[21:38] <Flare183> mrdigital: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[21:38] <Flare183> file*
[21:38] <Flare183> oops files*
[21:38] <jpatrick> ubotu lies
[21:38] <ubotu> Mostly just statistics, but yeah.
[21:38] <Flare183> hehe
[21:40] <ghostcube> hey guys
[21:40] <ghostcube> comiong directly from kde and asking here is there any fix for kde 3.5.x adminsession bug in kcontrol ?ß
[21:41] <ghostcube> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kdm'
[21:41] <ghostcube> this one
[21:42] <ghostcube> for example
[21:45] <magarelli> #gdr
[21:45] <ghostcube> ??
[21:46] <jpatrick> fermio91: with /join this time
[21:46] <martijn81> anyone been able to compile kget with the new torrent plugin
[21:46] <fermio91> what?
[21:46] <martijn81> ?
[21:46] <fermio91> ah
[21:47] <fermio91> Sorry patrick
[21:49] <martijn81> i get a weird cmake error
[21:49] <jpatrick> !paste | martijn81
[21:49] <ubotu> martijn81: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:50] <bis0n> Hi, there's a setting in KDE to put application menu bar at top of screen. Where is it located in config files?
[21:51] <martijn81> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57121/
[21:52] <NickPresta> bis0n, right click on your desktop > Configure Desktop > Behavior tab > Menu Bar at Top of Screen
[21:53] <ghostcube> any ideas about the bug ?? it spread out about 2 weeks by apt-get
[21:57] <bis0n> NickPresta, I don't have full KDE at the moment but I have several KDE apps... Though someone would help with the setting in config files....
[21:58] <NickPresta> bis0n, ah okay. I don't know where you would set this setting directly. Sorry.
[22:00] <Gun_Monkey> #join wor-room
[22:01] <bis0n> NickPresta, do you know if Qt-only applications support that setting?
[22:01] <ubuntu> "hello again"
[22:01] <Gun_Monkey> If ebgames/gamestop would actually sell PC games OTHER than the sims/wow/$9 budget games, then maybe people would buy them
[22:01] <ubuntu> i got a problem
[22:02] <Gun_Monkey> oops
[22:02] <BluesKaj> Gun_Monkey, it's prolly  /join #wor-room
[22:02] <Gun_Monkey> that was a big mispost
[22:02] <Lynoure> ubuntu: More detail helps.
[22:02] <ubuntu> i just want to mount an usb-fish with the bash and it does't work
[22:02] <ubuntu> any idea??
[22:03] <Lynoure> fish?
[22:04] <BluesKaj> Gun_Monkey, or is it #war-room ?
[22:04] <Lynoure> ubuntu: I've heard of usb fish tanks, just had no idea they'd even have something to mount...
[22:04] <ubuntu> usb-stick
[22:04] <aleksanteri> ubuntu, mounting as root?
[22:05] <Schuenemann> hey, what is the driver for those who have an intel onboard video card?
[22:05] <Schuenemann> my xorg.cong says "intel", but I don't think that's right. IIRC, I had something like i810
[22:06] <ghostcube> intel
[22:06] <ghostcube> aleksanteri:
[22:06] <ubuntu> sure mounting as root
[22:06] <ghostcube> oh no
[22:06] <ghostcube> lol
[22:06] <Schuenemann> ghostcube, intel?
[22:06] <ghostcube> sure
[22:06] <aleksanteri> ghostcube, ?
[22:06] <ghostcube> sorry wrong tab lol
[22:06] <aleksanteri> ubuntu, hmmm. try $(sudo fdisk -l)
[22:06] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, try: cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:06] <aleksanteri> (without the $() of course)
[22:06] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[22:07] <ghostcube> intel card is intel driver
[22:07] <ghostcube> :|
[22:07] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, is that sound or video?
[22:07] <ubuntu> ok i see that must be explaint
[22:07] <ghostcube> Schuenemann: what are u trying to do
[22:08] <ubuntu> i have a distribution known as knoppicillin
[22:08] <Schuenemann> configure video card
[22:08] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57128/
[22:08] <ubuntu> it based on knoppix
[22:08] <ghostcube> Schuenemann: for 3d
[22:08] <BluesKaj> sorry Schuenemann, lspci | grep VGA
[22:08] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[22:08] <Schuenemann> ghostcube, for everything
[22:08] <ubuntu> and here i need to mount an usb-drive
[22:08] <BluesKaj> !patience | hola
[22:08] <ubotu> hola: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:08] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:09] <Lynoure> ubuntu: so you are not at all on Kubuntu?
[22:09] <ghostcube> Schuenemann: hmm ok so intel is ure driver
[22:09] <ubuntu> yes
[22:10] <ubuntu> and thats the problem
[22:10] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, anything interesting there?
[22:10] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, then look for the Intel 82845G/GL video driver
[22:11] <Schuenemann> hmmm...
[22:11] <ghostcube> ehm guys the driver he needs is intel driver
[22:11] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, it should be on their site
[22:11] <ghostcube> so what are u discussing
[22:11] <ghostcube> only set in xorg.conf intel
[22:11] <Z3U5> hi ppl new here can i get some with kubuntu installation please?
[22:11] <Z3U5> hi ppl new here can i get some help with kubuntu installation please?
[22:12] <ubuntu> i tried to: modprobe usbcore;modprobe usb-store
[22:12] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, like tis? http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=8844
[22:12] <Lynoure> Z3U5: yes, probably, just ask?
[22:12] <ubuntu> and then i used usb-uhci and it failed
[22:12] <ghostcube> ok guys im back to compiz fusion support lol cu
[22:12] <BluesKaj> The Intel driver support site , Schuenemann
[22:12] <ubuntu> so i tried usb-ohci and again it failed
[22:13] <ubuntu> mkdir /mnt/usb-drive
[22:13] <Z3U5> ok, just downloaded gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd went almost through the install when it got stuck at 89% while removing programs for like 45 mins
[22:14] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: you shouldn't have to download drivers
[22:14] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i think your card is supported with the driver "i810"
[22:14] <ubuntu> mount  -o unmask=000 -t vfat /dev/da /mnt/usb-drive
[22:15] <Lynoure> ubuntu: sorry, don't know anything specific on knoppicillin, all those should load normally in kubuntu. But that would be uhci_hcd, so do check the name of the module...
[22:15] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, I remember I was using that driver, but now it says "intel"
[22:15] <ubuntu> here: vfat is not supported fs
[22:15] <Schuenemann> I'll change that and try
[22:16] <piquadrat> Hi. I have a little problem with access rights. I had two partitions (/home and /data), which I wanted to put together. I copied everything to a external HD with "cp -aR", deleted the two partitions, created a new one, formated it (ext3), adjusted /etc/fstab with the new UUID of the volume, copied everything back and chowned everything to my username. Nevertheless, as normal user, I can't access anything on the newly created partition. I
[22:16] <piquadrat> can access it as root without problem
[22:16] <ubuntu> sure
[22:16] <ubuntu> but to load it you must type modprobe usb-uhci
[22:16] <prince_jammys> piquadrat: can you paste the fstab line?
[22:17] <piquadrat> prince_jammys: UUID=5b600ccd-7940-455d-aa7e-e2c017fa07ee /home ext3 user_xattr,defaults,noatime,nodiratime  0 2
[22:17] <ubuntu> could you tell me how to mount usb device with ther bash
[22:17] <ubuntu> ?
[22:18] <Lynoure> ubuntu: your command looked fine, assuming you were root.
[22:18] <swatto> anyone know how i can start KDE 4 - i cant get the login window anymore if i logout it goes straight to console and i can only start KDE 3.5
[22:18] <hola> BluesKaj: ok you have right......do you know in which channel can i ask for to configure webcam?
[22:20] <ubuntu> not really my friend i just read out of magazine
[22:20] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, still having trouble when I switch from full screen to windowed
[22:20] <Schuenemann> the image freezes and is distorted for some time
[22:21] <Z3U5> can someone plz help, i just installed mirc so i could get help with kubuntu
[22:21] <Lynoure> ubuntu: ? I guess your magazine didn't have vfat support, then =)
[22:21] <ubuntu> no jokes at all, pls
[22:21] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i came in late, so i don't know your problem.  but when i saw i card i remember that i had installed ubuntu on another computer with that card using i810.  i don't know the solution, but i think downloading the drivers from the web can just make a bigger mess
[22:21] <BluesKaj> hola, I don't know, sorry :(
[22:22] <Schuenemann> =/
[22:22] <martijn81> we really need a wiki page for computers that do not install perfectly with (x/k)ubuntu
[22:22] <ubuntu> they discribe a different way
[22:22] <hola> BluesKaj: ok
[22:22] <Lynoure> ubuntu: oh, I thought your comment was a reply to mine. nevermind.
[22:22] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: did it ever work properly?
[22:22] <Schuenemann> not on gutsy, prince_jammys
[22:22] <Schuenemann> but on feisty, yes
[22:23] <BluesKaj> prince_jammys, Schuenemann ,is there a default Intel restricted driver in system settings/advanced ?
[22:23] <ubuntu> i have got a laptop and there you have to have a second cdrom
[22:23] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, how do I know?
[22:23] <ubuntu> thats the problem
[22:23] <BluesKaj> <--ATI
[22:23] <Schuenemann> ahh
[22:23] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: and what you've been doing is editing /etc/xorg.conf?
[22:23] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, system settings/advanced
[22:23] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, well, it said my system doesn't require any
[22:23] <ubuntu> so i want to copy the image to the usb-device
[22:23] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, I just did that
[22:24] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, my hardware, actually
[22:24] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: have you tried ::   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:24] <jussi01> !autostart
[22:24] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[22:24] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, isn't it that command that resets everything?
[22:24] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: yes
[22:25] <Schuenemann> hmmm... no. Should I?
[22:25] <BluesKaj> no Schuenemann it's default driver included in the install , you have to enable it in admin mode ...if it's available
[22:25] <ubuntu> ( - looking for help :( - )
[22:25] <Lynoure> ubuntu: I think I'll pass... not familiar with the distro you said you are on (knoppicillin), and it's quite late.
[22:25] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: if you do, back up your current xorg.conf so you can revert
[22:26] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, there's nothing available in that window... I just got an alert box saying that =/
[22:26] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, ok
[22:26] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:26] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i remember one time while i was installing beryl with that card, i ended up copying someone else's from the internet.  (i googled ubuntu xorg.conf and the card name ) :)
[22:27] <Aranel> my friend said when he tries to install amarok, this message appears: "ubuntu etiketli cd yi takıp entere basın" means : "Mount the cd labelled ubuntu and press enter"
[22:27] <ubuntu> whats the normal shell command to mount an usb-device??
[22:27] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: just remember to backup the file to prevent further headache
[22:27] <Aranel> whats this and how can he install applications without cd ?
[22:27] <Schuenemann> ok, thanks
[22:28] <Z3U5> #ubuntu
[22:28] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, what was that command to see the card model? lspci | grep what?
[22:28] <Lynoure> ubuntu: normally they automount under kubuntu...  if they don't, sudo mount -t filesystemtype device mountmount  ought to work.
[22:28] <BluesKaj> vga
[22:29] <Schuenemann> lspci | grep vga? doesn't output anything
[22:29] <prince_jammys> piquadrat: i'm not familiar with the usr_xattr option.  i was just looking at a tutorial online where the sample fstab is /dev/hda7 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[22:29] <BluesKaj> Aranel, alt+F2 ,kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then put a # in front he line with the cdrom as a deb source ..most likely it's the first line
[22:29] <Aranel> thanks for information BluesKaj :)
[22:30] <Aranel> xorg.conf ? its interesting.
[22:30] <BluesKaj> Aranel, i hope you find the right line
[22:30] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: do VGA or grep -i for case insensitive
[22:30] <Aranel> i hope too :)
[22:30] <Lynoure> s/mountmount/mountpoint/
[22:31] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: that's why it didn't output anything
[22:31] <Schuenemann> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:31] <Schuenemann> yeah, thanks
[22:31] <BluesKaj> Aranel, you can post the text of the xorgfile in pastebin and i'll tell exactly which one it is .
[22:31] <ubuntu> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda/ /[place.to.mount]
[22:31] <ubuntu> is that right??
[22:31] <ubuntu> or any mistake??
[22:31] <prince_jammys> ubuntu it seems you're missing a number sda2 sdaX
[22:32] <Lynoure> ubuntu: well, depends on whether that's the type, device and mount point, but yeah.
[22:32] <prince_jammys> i could be wrong on that
[22:32] <Oloughlin75> prince_jammys: you are right :)
[22:32] <Aranel> BluesKaj: ok, if i need i'll send a message to you. thanks :)
[22:33] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:  do sudo fdisk -l    and see the /dev/sdaX  marked "vfat"
[22:33] <ubuntu> so you are thinking there is just the number missing??
[22:33] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: you need to specify which partition on the drive to mount
[22:35] <BluesKaj> ok Aranel ,very good
[22:35] <ubuntu> there is just one partition
[22:35] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, something that I noted with gutsy is that the monitor center differs from windoze, making me adjust the monitor settings all the time I switch OS
[22:35] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: sda1 then
[22:35] <ubuntu> is it nassasary?
[22:35] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: yes
[22:35] <Z3U5> can anyone help plz with kubuntu installation problem
[22:36] <hydrogen> !ask | Z3U5
[22:36] <ubotu> Z3U5: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:36] <prince_jammys> ubuntu do :::   sudo fdisk -l    and look for the line with FAT32
[22:36] <ubuntu> i formated it under windows to fat32
[22:37] <Z3U5> installed gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd the install got stuck at 89% while removing programs
[22:37] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: does it actually work properly now?
[22:37] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, nope... I have to adjust all the time
[22:38] <Schuenemann> oh wait, I haven't tried after changing the driver
[22:38] <Aranel> BluesKaj: http://sudrap.org/paste/1824/
[22:38] <Z3U5> installed gutsy gibbon amd64 dvd the install got stuck at 89% while removing programs for 45 mins didnt move after that
[22:38] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, prince_jammys, do you know if that driver supports resolutions greater than 1024x768?
[22:38] <Oloughlin75> Schuenemann: it should
[22:39] <Oloughlin75> Schuenemann: can your screen?
[22:39] <Schuenemann> Oloughlin75, oops, I meant that video card, not driver
[22:39] <Oloughlin75> Schuenemann: most cards newer than say 10 years can
[22:39] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: the card should, but i don't know about the driver
[22:39] <Schuenemann> Oloughlin75, well, the monitor is old, but I see that option in xorg.conf but now in systemsettings
[22:40] <Schuenemann> subsection display has Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480"
[22:40] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i remember it maxed out at 1024x768  on the installation i was telling you about.  other than that, it worked properly
[22:40] <stas> hi all
[22:40] <Lynoure> Z3U5: Can you remind me what happens before that step?
[22:40] <ubuntu> specil device /dev/sda does not exist
[22:40] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: the other thing you want to look into is the specs of your monitor and adjust your xorg.conf
[22:40]  * regeya needs to tweak his settings; 1024x768 seems to be his current max as well
[22:40] <ubuntu> damn
[22:41] <stas> can someone help me plz?? im new in kubuntu :(
[22:41] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:    sudo fdisk -l
[22:41] <martijn81> stas: just shoot
[22:41] <Z3U5> nothing it just got stuck the comp did not habg or anything likethat
[22:41] <stas> lol
[22:41] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: i did it all by copying other people's off the internet
[22:42] <Aranel> BluesKaj: solved. thanks :)
[22:42] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, how many attempts?
[22:42] <Z3U5> nothing it just got stuck the comp did not hang or anything likethat
[22:42] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: you don't want to know ... but that was mostly because of beryl
[22:42] <Lynoure> Z3U5: What was the step before that? What did it do? I don't have an installer in mid-run here, so 89% does not tell me much
[22:42] <prince_jammys> Schuenemann: actually that was only because of beryl
[22:42] <Z3U5> Lynour: enothing it just got stuck the comp did not hang or anything like that
[22:42] <stas> mart, mayb u has a minute time to help me? :)
[22:42] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, dammit heh
[22:43]  * regeya is using compiz with an ooooold radeon 7000ve and the only thing that doesn't work well is openarena
[22:43] <Schuenemann> prince_jammys, you should've kept the file
[22:43] <regeya> well that and I don't get 3d windows with the cube view, but aside from that...
[22:43] <Z3U5> Lynoure: well it was while removing programs
[22:43] <Lynoure> Z3U5: that was the exact text it gave?
[22:44] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[22:44] <stas> hm... i have a really stupid problem, hat can be easyly solved by everyone who knows kubuntu well...
[22:44] <ubuntu> how i have to type the command with sudo fdisk -l?
[22:44] <regeya> o_O
[22:44] <Schuenemann> brb
[22:44] <regeya> what's UbuntuStats
[22:44] <regeya> or what was
[22:44] <Z3U5> Lynoure: removing programs and was at 89%
[22:44] <Lynoure> stas: gah, just ask :)
[22:44] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:  type it in the terminal and paste the line that says FAT32
[22:44] <ubuntu> i typed: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[22:45] <martijn81> ubuntu: hit alt+F2 and  type konsole, then paste what you want
[22:45] <regeya> !ubuntustats
[22:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntustats - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <prince_jammys> ubuntu   no   only   "sudo fdisk -l"   nothing else
[22:45] <Lynoure> stas: don't ask people to commit to trying to mindread you, asking is so much easier for all.
[22:45] <martijn81> stas: sure, just ask, someone will know
[22:46] <stas> well, i was having a problem with adept (it was blocked by other programs) so i typed in a command i found in a forum and i dont know what it done, but now my adept works again, but doesnt show already installed packeges :( i have to do something like a scan for installed software, but dont know how...
[22:48] <stas> cause im a window$ user i dont know how to hande ubuntu (especcialy with command lines) :(
[22:48] <Lynoure> Z3U5: Sorry, I could not find a likely cause now... must be too tired :/
[22:49] <ubuntu> i am going sick, it does not work :(
[22:49] <Z3U5> Lynoure: does that make sense? can i make it anymore clear
[22:49] <prince_jammys> ubuntu what happened when you typed "sudo fdisk -l"
[22:50] <ubuntu> i am already root@ubuntu
[22:50] <Lynoure> Z3U5: if I understood right, you were doing 1st ever install of kubuntu gutsy, on 64bit system with amd64 image and it got stuck late in the install with text "removing programs"?
[22:50] <prince_jammys> ubuntu: ok what happens when you type "fdisk -l"
[22:50] <ubuntu> User ubuntu may run the following commands on this host:
[22:50] <ubuntu>     (ALL) ALL
[22:51] <prince_jammys> ubuntu  are you on a live cd?
[22:51] <ubuntu> thats right
[22:51] <Z3U5> Lynoure: ok the install went fine copying files,..., scanning CD ROM,.... then reached removing (unwanted) programs thats when it got stuck
[22:52] <regeya> y'know, I just want to point out that ubuntu's sudo settings spoiled me.  I had to set up a debian box at work with the default sudo settings :->
[22:52] <stas> noone knows a solution? :( this should really be not a big thing i thought... Oo
[22:52] <martijn81> stas: that is a strange problem, what command did you use?
[22:52] <ubuntu> and also @knoppicillin, but it was written that it is possible
[22:52] <Z3U5> Lynoure: yes first ever is correct
[22:53] <martijn81> !aptfix
[22:53] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:53] <Lynoure> Z3U5: What could possibly help is the exact text of the step it got stuck with, but it's 1am, someone else might help you better now.
[22:53] <prince_jammys> stas: you have all the check boxed checked, right? (show installed, etc)  just verifying
[22:53] <Armakidon> How install compiz on kde ?
[22:53] <prince_jammys> *boxes
[22:53] <stas> martijn81: i dont know anymore :( sorry, its really stupid i know ^^ i was something described wth "...rebuilding your databse..."
[22:54] <martijn81> Armakidon: best to ask that in #compiz-fusion
[22:54] <stas> prince_jammys: well, thats the problem. for example i have amarok installed, but the package manager says amarok isnt installed, its not checked and i can check it then
[22:54] <Z3U5> Lynoure: can you tell me how to set up an internet conncetion on kubuntu
[22:55] <swatto> ohh my xorg.conf files is messed up and KDM wont start :( - would someone have a look at it for me
[22:55] <sepeck> hmmm... cleared cache... why won;t it show...
[22:55] <sepeck> wrong window
[22:55] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | stas: try closing adept and running the following command, and then reopening.
[22:55] <ubotu> stas: try closing adept and running the following command, and then reopening.: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:55] <ubuntu> i am tiered that this is a problem, because the rest to mount a virtual drive an a boot-cd that works
[22:56] <Lynoure> Z3U5: depends on the exact nature of your problem, I don't do ndiswrapper stuff. But someone on the channel probably does.
[22:56] <ubuntu> there is just the problem of burning the cd
[22:56] <stas> ubotu: ok, ill try right now...
[22:56] <stas> prince_jammys: ok,ill try
[22:56] <Z3U5> Lynoure: thanks anyways
[22:57] <ubuntu> or puting the image to a usb-drive
[22:57] <prince_jammys> ubuntu so "fdisk -l" doesn't give you any output?
[22:58] <ubuntu> User ubuntu may run the following commands on this host:
[22:58] <ubuntu>     (ALL) ALL
[22:58] <ubuntu> that's all
[23:00] <stas> prince_jammys: hey :D lloks like it works. amarok and bluetooth obex client is now shown as installed... and many other apps as well
[23:00] <Lynoure> ubuntu: weird...  that's the output of   sudo -l  , not normally of   sudo fdisk -l
[23:00] <prince_jammys> stas: good
[23:00] <ubuntu> ok
[23:00] <stas> prince_jammys: thanks you very much :)
[23:01] <ubuntu> but were is the mistake?
[23:01] <Lynoure> ubuntu: What exactly did you type? :)
[23:01] <ubuntu> or better where is the solution
[23:01] <prince_jammys> ubuntu that's what i'm trying to find out.  if we only knew what the device is, you could mount it
[23:01] <Z3U5> can someone plz help in setting up internet connection on kubuntu, never done that b4 so i dont know how, but when i do ifconfig the only ip i could see was 127.0.0.1, in windows the connection settings are as follows gateway 192.168.1.1, ip 192.168.1.2 and also dont know where to put the dns ip, i tried to do it through network settings but guess im going wrong somewhere
[23:02] <prince_jammys> ubuntu:  are you on a console or a GUI?
[23:02] <ubuntu> i tried different
[23:02] <ubuntu> i have to work on a console
[23:02] <stas> prince_jammys: only one more lil question: if i want install new software from the internet and check the box of that app it takes like 3 minutes untill the window moves again (the notebook is loading something all the time), is this normal?
[23:02] <Lynoure> Z3U5: dns goes into  /etc/resolv.conf
[23:02] <ubuntu> cause knoppicillin just have a console
[23:03] <prince_jammys> stas: when you say from the internet you mean from adept?
[23:03] <ubuntu> an the midnightcommander
[23:03] <ubuntu> mc
[23:03] <ubuntu> thats all
[23:03] <Z3U5> Lynoure: is there a way to do all this inGUI
[23:03] <Lynoure> Z3U5: if you pastebin your current /etc/network/interfaces  I can modify it to have those settings...
[23:03] <stas> i think so. well, its software that is not on the kubuntu dvd, so i think it comes from the internet
[23:03] <prince_jammys> but you are booted from a ubuntu live cd?
[23:03] <ubuntu> no
[23:04] <prince_jammys> oh
[23:04] <stas> prince_jammys: i think so. well, its software that is not on the kubuntu dvd, so i think it comes from the internet
[23:04] <Lynoure> Z3U5: probably, but I'm much more of a commandline person, done it hundreds of time on command line, maybe once ever on gui.
[23:04] <ubuntu> in this case: yes. but not when i to prepare the burning
[23:04] <prince_jammys> stas: adept takes forever for me also, when listing all the packages.
[23:04] <ubuntu> this is just a virtual machine
[23:05]  * prince_jammys is confused
[23:05] <stas> prince_jammys: ok then. i only wonder cause i use kubuntu for first time, and its funny ^^ think will use it in the future as well. and thx for your help :) good n8
[23:05] <Z3U5> Lynoure: my kubuntu installation did not complete as you know so wont be able to provide /etc/network/interfaces, if i gave you details can you do it for me
[23:05] <prince_jammys> stas ok bye
[23:06] <stas> baba world :)
[23:06] <SpookyET> hi
[23:06] <Lynoure> Z3U5: you can browse to it with dolphin or konquer, or do    cat /etc/network/interfaces   on the commandline
[23:07] <SpookyET> kde4 is not very usable. But, I like what I see. It uses 100 megs less RAM than gnome. It uses less ram than xfce. I wonder why they are cloning compiz instead of creating a Qt4 gui for it
[23:08] <Lynoure> Z3U5: but, oh, on gui:  K-menu --> System Settings -> Network connections -> Administrator Mode   then edit away
[23:10] <prince_jammys> ubuntu :: type "which fdisk"
[23:10] <Z3U5> Lynoure: ok nice, can you tell where do i need to put which values eg: gateway, computerIP, DNS (preffered/ alternate)
[23:11] <Z3U5> Lynoure: too used to windows ...sorry
[23:12] <Lynoure> Z3U5: gateway goes to the Routes tab, IP to the 1st tab (Network interfaces), DNS to Domain Name System tab
[23:12] <Lynoure> Z3U5: click on "Configure interface" to change the ip and netmask
[23:15] <Z3U5> Lynoure: u see i did that, trying to use logic, but nothing i still got 127.0.0.1 on cammand ifconfig, and no connection what i did get was a network disconnected icon in the panel
[23:18] <sepeck> hmmm.... my internet connection works, I ping via cmd line, I can update via Adept... I cannot browese the web with Konquer
[23:18] <Z3U5> Lynoure: do you think it could be a problem that the network card is not getting detected, bcoz in network settings it the network interface as eth0
[23:18] <Lynoure> Z3U5: I think it only applies when you have clicked apply
[23:19] <Lynoure> Z3U5: eth0 is what the first network card normally is
[23:19] <Z3U5> Lynoure: ya i did that too, apply
[23:19] <ubuntu__> !MBR
[23:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:20] <Lynoure> Z3U5: then do   sudo ifdown eth0  and  sudo ifup eth0
[23:20] <Lynoure> Z3U5: if that does not work, you really need to pastebin the interfaces file
[23:20] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[23:20] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: is ifup about the same as ifconfig up?
[23:21] <sepeck> odd... FF works.  Ah well, FF it is
[23:21] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: both ifup and ifconfig are used to boss interfaces... see man ifup  and man ifconfig respectively
[23:22] <ubuntu__> ok, i was just wondering if there weren't a simple difference to them, or if they were basically the same
[23:22] <feffer> Hi all, desktop icons were lost after upgrade to Gutsy. Sys settings don't restore them. Search didn't resolve it? Any ideas?
[23:22] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: We both might have been too lazy to make 100% sure =)
[23:23] <Z3U5> Lynoure: will try that, for now i need to crash, 5 am here in india, will you be here tomorrow?
[23:23] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: perhaps. i am in the middle of trying to get wireless going on 2 pcs, having issues, and was looking for some quick enlightenment
[23:23] <feffer> After playing with settings, they popped back but didn't survive reboot
[23:24] <ubuntu__> i am using wireless on this thing (finally) running off a live CD
[23:24] <Lynoure> Z3U5: I'm pretty much always here, but quite busy tomorrow, so I might be idle. But the channel is full of helpful people
[23:24] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: I run out of enlightenment at 1am
[23:25] <Z3U5> Lynoure: thanks
[23:25] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: i am ALWAYS in short supply
[23:25] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: now here just to wrap things up before catching my zzz
[23:25] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: where are you at?
[23:25] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: Helsinki
[23:26] <ubuntu__> ahh.... linus in disguise, eh?
[23:26] <ubuntu__> i knew he used ubuntu!
[23:26] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[23:26] <Lynoure> ubuntu__: He is not even in Finland, I think :)
[23:26] <ubuntu__> Lynoure: i think he's in californication
[23:26] <Lynoure> hola: more detail: make, model problem, and you might be lucky
[23:27] <SpookyET>  weird. kde4 has a nice gui for desktop resize and rotate that uses xrandr. It would no go above 1280x800. I switched to gnome not restarting X and my laptop is 1680x1050 and my tv 1920x1080. hahaha
[23:27] <hola> Lynoure:  0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[23:27] <hola> Lynoure: /dev/video it does not created
[23:28] <ubuntu__> i accidentally deleted the clock in the panel on KDE4, and for the life of me, i do not know how to get it back
[23:29] <Lynoure> hola: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/zaapa-webcam-en-ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-gibbon-2/ seems to have a step-by-step for that.
[23:29] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__, right click on the panel ..add aplet to panel
[23:30] <hola> Lynoure: i lready know that site
[23:30] <ubuntu__> Bluein KDE4 , i did not see that option
[23:30] <hola> but the problem is that the cam is not recognize
[23:30] <Lynoure> hola: and followed all the steps?
[23:30] <hola> and /devvideo is not created
[23:30] <hola> sure
[23:30] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__, ??
[23:31] <jussi01> ubuntu__: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:31] <Lynoure> hola: /dev/video1 or /dev/video0 ?
[23:31] <hola> both
[23:31] <hola> no /dev/video is createed
[23:31] <hola> i dont know why
[23:31] <jussi01> ubuntu__: when you get there, i can help you
[23:32] <ubuntu__> jussi: i was making a comment, but thanks for the link
[23:32] <ubuntu__> ty jussi01, i may go there in a bit
[23:33] <Lynoure> hola: that was my extent of wakefulness for now, and I have no hands-on with that cam... check  dmesg  for hints, try reconnecting the device and such.
[23:34] <ubuntu__> this is strange. i am connected to this IRC channel, but konqueror cannot connect to the net
[23:38] <hola> Lynoure: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4932/