ubotuNew bug: #194576 in malone "e-mail reply from help@bugs.launchpad.net missing content" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19457600:17
ubotuNew bug: #194601 in malone "Mailed bug attachments aren't attached, but in the bug itself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19460102:36
stdinOdd_Bloke/Odd_Blok2: you need to fix your connection03:30
harrisonymy emails arnt working at this moment so i thought this would be the next best place, OOPS-784EA1203:59
jetsaredimhow do I go about using my PPA to build a new package for both gutsy and hardy?04:00
jetsaredimcan someone help me figure this out? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12160394/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.firebug_1.1.0%7Eb11%2Bsvn317-0ubuntu2_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz04:08
harrisonyjetsaredim:thats a bug with the launchpad ppa system "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/jetsaredim/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found"04:11
jetsaredimso, how do i fix?04:13
harrisonyyou cant im sorry to say04:14
harrisony(i think)04:14
jetsaredimso, how do i get my package into my ppa?04:17
harrisonyOdd_Blok2: please, fix your connection! 04:19
harrisonyjetsaredim: hmm, thats the million dollar question. try do it again 04:20
jetsaredimi need to bump my package version then?04:20
harrisonyhmm, just add ~ppa1 or something to the end04:20
jetsaredimor can i just dput -f or something?04:21
jetsaredimok - can someone tell me how to include another ppa in my build chroot?04:42
ScottKDon't think you can.04:51
ScottKYou need to upload whatever it is to yours04:51
jetsaredimso upload the dep into my ppa and build it?04:53
jetsaredimis there a way to do that from the source package?05:11
jetsaredimI can't seem to find the branch05:12
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XiXaQHello everyone. I just received a question, which I've never thought of before. When you post a reply to a bug on launchpad, mail is sent out to other participants, and they can see your mail address. Is that normal behaviour? 06:26
harrisonyXiXaQ: yes and yes06:27
* Hobbsee watches the mails on lp users happily06:28
XiXaQhmm. Isn't that abit strange in this day and age? 06:37
HobbseeXiXaQ: it's a bug.06:37
Hobbseewell, it's a bug if you've set your email to be private06:37
Hobbseeotherwise, it's intended06:37
XiXaQoh, so not hiding e-mail address is default then?06:42
* Fujitsu has forgotten after 3 years.06:44
* Hobbsee adds fuel to the fire.06:47
* Fujitsu incinerates Hobbsee for common sense.06:47
HobbseeFujitsu: actually...to create some real fuel...it would be helpful to CC ubuntu-women@ and those kind of lists06:52
Fujitsulp-users would exploe.06:53
FujitsuWith a few extra ds.06:53
HobbseeFujitsu: i look forward to the day where they force pictures too, so they feel more comfortable, then hear the outcry then06:56
coolbhavihello all07:18
coolbhaviThe Launchpad answer tracker support team channel is up.. #ubuntu-helpteam07:19
FujitsuThat sounds like the Ubuntu answer tracker.07:19
coolbhaviyes.. 07:20
FujitsuNot the Launchpad one in general.07:20
ubotuNew bug: #194647 in launchpad "Launchpad sends me multiple mails about bugs when I assign them to myself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19464707:20
ScottKFujitsu: ^^^ The bug we were discussing.07:20
HobbseeFujitsu: erm, what did cprov say a while ago?08:11
Hobbseeif it's showing as published...then where are my binaries?08:12
FujitsuWhich package?08:12
FujitsuHobbsee: There's probably a queue.08:13
* Fujitsu checks /+buils08:13
HobbseeFujitsu: it's built08:13
Hobbseeoh neat.  adding teams to other teams is broken.08:14
FujitsuI suspect they'll appear in a little under 6 minutes.08:14
FujitsuBinaries still have to get publishe.08:14
Hobbseeif i don't have permissions to add one of my teams to that team, *why* are you giving me an option in the menu to do so, then bailing out?08:14
FujitsuBut it now builds from accepted, so sources on't have to be publishe.08:14
FujitsuBecause it wants you to file a bug on it.08:14
Hobbseeit must do.  it must do.08:14
* Hobbsee wonders why this wasn't seen before.08:16
Hobbseeoh, it's only for restricted teams.  so, for restricted teams, hide the option.  simple, no?08:17
FujitsuSehr gut.08:19
ubotuNew bug: #194657 in malone "don't show the "add one of my teams" menu when users don't have permission to do so" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19465708:26
cprovHobbsee: Fujitsu: anything wrong ?11:32
Fujitsucprov: Looks good to me.11:35
cprovFujitsu: good.11:37
Hobbseecprov: just confusion over when it says "published" and when teh binaries actually appear, i think11:41
cprovHobbsee: uhm, bzr-team already complained about that, I have to investigate a UI solution.11:42
Hobbseecprov: right11:43
FujitsuI'm not sure how you can represent that better.11:43
Hobbseecprov: obviously, i'ts talking about sources published, not binaries...but it's still confusing11:43
* Fujitsu saw a bug on that.11:43
Hobbseeit'd probably be better to show whether the binary is published or not11:43
cprovFujitsu: we could simply present the build & binary publication status 11:43
cprovbuild status & binary publication status, that's what I meant.11:44
cprovHobbsee: in the current code, the deb file link is only presented if it's published, but I think it's too subtle 11:45
FujitsuPerhaps a table with a row for each architecture, showing build/publication status, inside the usual source rows.11:45
* cprov goes towards the coffee machine ...11:45
cprovFujitsu: yes ... i could be in binary section11:46
Hobbseecprov: usually, people would want to know if the source was published, not the binary, no?11:46
Hobbseecprov: hmmm...with the new fixes, does the ubuntu, etc, stuff get accepted straight away too?11:47
FujitsuHobbsee: Other way aroun, you mean? Most people don't care about sources.11:47
FujitsuHobbsee: Has for months now.11:47
HobbseeFujitsu: er, yes.11:47
HobbseeFujitsu: right, good.  i thought ti did, unless things were on manual11:48
FujitsuUbuntu has been builing from accepte for a long time, as far as I know.11:48
Hobbseeso, then why would anyone care about whether the source was published at all?11:48
FujitsuIt's the easiest thing to show. I can't see a way to cleanly show the binaries.11:48
cprovHobbsee: Fujitsu: no, ubuntu sources still have to wait the queue-builder run to be dispatched.11:50
Hobbseecprov: will that change anytime soon?11:50
* Fujitsu didn't think that was what Hobbsee asked.11:50
cprovHobbsee: yes, at some point in this milestone11:51
HobbseeFujitsu: it's what i meant to ask.  i may have phrased it badly11:52
FujitsuAh, sorry.11:52
HobbseeFujitsu: if the sources automatically, almost instantly get queued to build binaries, and all that remains is the build queue, then the only important "published" status is for the binaries, no?11:53
Hobbseecprov: ah, good.11:53
FujitsuHobbsee: That's a good point.11:53
HobbseeFujitsu: which means the question of what information to show, in that box, is trivial.11:53
FujitsuBut how to show the multiple statuses?11:53
HobbseeFujitsu: what would the required statuses be?11:54
FujitsuYou've got a status for each of the three archs.11:54
Hobbseehm.  the first one, i think.11:55
cprovarchitectures built, as in i386, amd64, ***lpia***11:55
Hobbseewouldn't be all of them, else ubuntu's stuff would rarely be published (thanks ppa)11:55
Hobbseeer, thanks *hppa*11:55
Hobbseecprov: yeah11:55
Fujitsuhppa isn't bad these days.11:55
HobbseeFujitsu: i think if you had at least one of the arches built, it should be OK11:55
Hobbseeand should be listed as published11:56
Hobbseeeither that, or requiring {amd64, i386} to be published, as those are the most common ones11:56
FujitsuThere must be a less ugly way to do that. Special-casing archs sounds very wrong.12:00
cprovFujitsu: +112:00
HobbseeFujitsu: which is why i'd go with "one arch is built.  mark as published"12:01
cprovwe could simply present the archs being built and their status (as color) in a column12:01
FujitsuSpeaking of things like this, the build failures column on +packages needs to be made more useful.12:01
HobbseeFujitsu: and hope that the others are fairly fast12:01
Fujitsucprov: I'd considered that. I suppose it would work with so few archs.12:01
Hobbsee(which, in practice, they tend to be)12:01
cprovyes, it's fairly limited.. [architectures domain]12:02
FujitsuHaving columns for each with the status progressing Pending->Builing->Accepted->Published could well work.12:04
cprovFujitsu: I was thinking in a single columns, "Binaries" which would contains the architecture tags linking to the build page and representing their status with colors 12:07
FujitsuI don't particularly like the idea of having status encoded exclusively by colour.12:08
cprovFujitsu: we have the build icons, if you prefer12:08
FujitsuOoh, that's true.12:08
FujitsuStill not ideal, but better.12:08
cprovFujitsu: any other alternative to be considered ?12:09
FujitsuIt'd be nice to display the full status, but the icon would work, particularly as it seems to have a title.12:10
FujitsuAnd an alt. Even better.12:10
cprovFujitsu: yes, I guess, the icon will work fine.12:11
cprovFujitsu: but it has to be besides the architecture-tag itself, otherwise it will continue to be confusing.12:12
cprovFujitsu: it could solve https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/19170312:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191703 in soyuz "ppa overview page doesn't make failed archive visible" [High,Triaged]  - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)12:16
FujitsuIt would.12:16
cprovFujitsu, Hobbsee: thanks for helping with this. i have to go now, see you later.12:25
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FujitsuBye, cprov-out.12:25
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jetsaredimhow do I pull a package from someone else's ppa into my ppa?14:31
_KAMI_I am the current hungarian Localizator of Seamonkey. How can I get my translations into Ubuntu?16:02
_KAMI_But https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/seamonkey says            Translation setup needed16:02
_KAMI_I have all translations in "mozilla form"16:02
_KAMI_Same apply for IceApe https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/iceape16:04
arjif I need someone else to commit to a branch I have on launchpad do I need to create a team to do that?16:08
arjand why can't I use an email I have already for a team?16:10
arjit says that email is used for my current user16:10
arjfigured it out, but it wasn't very intuitive16:16
affluxhow can I get the translations of my program marked as "synced", so the bar in rosetta becomes green?16:35
afflux(project translations, not ubuntu translations)16:36
wbradyCan someone please make intro2it into a super project? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/2543516:37
wbradyanyone home?17:10
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awilkinsQuestion : is it considered acceptable for someone unassociated with a project to ask for it's CVS/SVN repository to be imported into L=aunchpad?17:30
ubotuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.17:31
Nafallohopefully people are using their days off ;-)17:32
Odd_BlokeNot only is it a weekend, it's FOSDEM weekend! \o/17:38
affluxmy connection broke down, did anyone answer on my translation/sync question?17:39
kiko-afkawilkins, no, it's perfectly fine to request any project be imported!18:42
jetsaredimhow do I pull software from someone's ppa into mine?18:43
Nafallohiya kiko18:45
kiko-afkjetsaredim, you can't -- yet.18:59
jetsaredimi mean - obviously there's no way to do it directly through lp, but i meant by some manual means 19:00
ScottKDownload the source and then upload it to your PPA.19:01
jetsaredimI think I tried that19:02
jetsaredimso I should be able to download the source, debuild -S -sa, and then upload the source.changes to my ppa?19:03
ScottKdebuild -S -sa -kYOURKEYID19:04
ScottKThat or edit debian/changelog to have your name/address as the last entry19:04
jetsaredimah ok19:05
ffmIf I add a new email address and change it to the default, is the old default notified?19:54
Toobazdanilos: ehm... I'm still here... since my .po/.pot files still "need review"... evidently, there is the problem you said yesterday with the paths. I can delete them and reload them without any path, but will they integrate with translations already done?19:55
luisbgis launchpad's ssh down? it is giving me time out20:11
tdoggetteI need to create a mailing list for the development team on a project. Is there a way to do this from within Launchpad?20:12
ffmtdoggette: you a beta tester?20:13
ffmtdoggette: it was in a email sent to you on how to.20:13
tdoggetteGreat. Do I need to be a driver or group leader?20:14
ffmtdoggette: idk.20:14
tdoggetteI'll check it out20:14
ffmtdoggette: what's your project name? GASP?20:15
ffmtdoggette: if so, its already set up. gasp-dev@lists.launchpad.net20:15
ffmtdoggette: see also https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp20:15
sayersHello! I just formed a new project and I'm wondering where I upload my code?20:37
ffmsayers: via bzr20:37
sayersffm, Is there any howto with that? It seems rather complex to use20:38
Toobazdo you have an ssh key?20:39
ffmsayers: http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/04/25/how-to-use-bazaar-and-launchpad-for-hosting-your-code/20:39
sayersAlright ffm I got my local bzr set up20:49
sayersbut where do I commit to20:50
Amaranthwhoa, I seem to have access to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/awn/trunk/+source20:50
ffmyou set one up on launchpad too.20:50
ffmand push20:50
AmaranthI don't think I should be able to get there20:50
AmaranthOr does it just error out after I try submitting the form?20:50
sayersffed, bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() is my error20:50
Toobazsayers: you have gutsy?20:50
Toobazbzr version is too old20:51
ffmsayers: don't use http, use ssh+bzr://20:51
sayersSo I need to compile20:51
ffmor just use lp:foo20:51
Toobazffm: there is not on gutsy, I think20:51
Toobazis it?!20:51
ffmno idea20:52
sayersffm, so what would an example command be then20:52
Toobazit's several days I keep a virtual machine with debian testing inside just to give the "push" commands20:52
Toobazbzr push lp:~sayers/nameofyourproject/trunk20:52
Toobazbut I don't think it will do20:53
ffm                 bzr push bzr+ssh://ffm@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ffm/gasp-code/gasp-0.x-stable20:53
ffmsayers: above20:53
sayersso /rateagirl/trunk 20:54
sayersbzr: ERROR: Generic bzr smart protocol error: Permission denied: "This method is only for creating branches: /rateagirl/trunk"20:54
sayersi need /trunk/sayers ?20:54
Toobazno, ffm's command is the right one20:55
Toobaz(or: bzr push lp:~ffm/gasp-code/gasp-0.x-stable20:55
sayersThen what am I doing wrong iwth 20:55
sayersbzr push bzr+ssh://sjsayers93@bazaar.launchpad.net/rateagirl/trunk/sayers/20:55
ToobazI think  - not sure, but it's several days I'm trying - Gutsy simply can't do it20:55
sayersthen what do I do?20:56
ToobazI can tell you what I did: virtualize a Debian. But what probably you should do is recompile bazaar. Or try to install the hardy package, but it has dependencies too. Or wait someone more expert gives you his advice.20:57
ffmenable backports20:57
Toobazsayers: yeah, I think this will do20:58
sayersi didnt have a branch made20:58
sayersit's uploading I gues20:58
sayersyep works20:58
Toobazin this case, I'm an idiot20:59
sayersI guess so :p20:59
SteveMI've had repeated failures trying to upload a fairly large (~30mb) file to a download area. Each has brought me to the "Please try again" page. Any advice?21:08
FujitsuSteveM: Is it a normal Launchpad error page?21:25
SteveMFujitsu: I believe so (though I haven't seen it before today).21:26
SteveM"Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server."21:26
FujitsuRight, that's not the normal one.21:27
FujitsuIt came up yesterday too, and they're looking into it.21:27
SteveMThanks. It's no hurry. I'll just try again later. Thanks.21:30
ToobazFujitsu: may I ask to you for pot/po upload problems?21:52
ffmcan the pycon meeting/sprint be added to launchpad as a proposed discussion/implementation time for blueprints?21:53
FujitsuToobaz: I have no special privileges, but I may be able to answer questions.21:54
ToobazYesterday 2 files of mine (a .pot and a .po) where reviewed and approved. But... I uploaded them as I had them on my PC: the tarball contained the .pot and a folder "po" with the .po inside. Danilos, who approved them, said this could bring problems... and actually it does: I uploaded new versions of both but they are not automatically approved.21:57
ToobazSo I thought to just remove them and reupload without different paths... but do you think it shall give problems to already done (on LP) translations21:58
FujitsuCan't you just reupload them without deleting the old ones?22:00
Toobazyep, and it doesn't matter if I have to wait days, but shall them integrate with the translations other people did on LP?22:00
Toobazor shall they delete them? or appear as other available translations?22:01
FujitsuHmm, I thought they should be automatically approved.22:01
FujitsuYou'll have to talk to one of the Translations people.22:01
ffmcan the pycon meeting/sprint be added to launchpad as a proposed discussion/implementation time for blueprints?22:03
Fujitsuffm: It's likely nobody here knows.22:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about weeken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:03
ubotuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.22:03
FujitsuStupid keyboar.22:03
Toobazwow. I think I'll have a chat with ubotu22:04
ffmany idea how long it takes launchpad notifications to arrive?22:13
ffmor how I can stop getting them? I often get notified when I do something, which  is just spam to me.22:20
FujitsuLaunchpad bug email notifications?22:20
ffmthat, and blueprints.22:22
ffm"ffm changed the priority of blueprint foo!"22:22
FujitsuWell, you could always not subscribe to them.22:22
ffmI am the creater of said blueprint.22:25
FujitsuAh. You're probably stuffed, then.22:26
ffmFujitsu: hm?22:27
FujitsuYou could unsubscribe, I guess...22:27
ffmFujitsu: I'm not subscribed.22:27
FujitsuBut there's no option to not recieve notifications about your own actions.22:27
FujitsuAre you the assignee, drafter, approver, etc?22:28
ffmFujitsu: Registrar, Drafter, and sometimes approver.22:28
FujitsuThey'll all probably get you notified.22:28
awilkinskiko-afk: Thanks23:02
ffmwoot, my project is featured!23:05
sayerswhat is it?23:05
ffmsayers: GASP.23:05
ffmhttp://launchpad.net <-- It's in the list!23:06
luisbg_is launchpad's ssh down? it is giving me time out23:10
luisbg_when trying to bzr push bzr+ssh://...23:10
RainCTjust wanted to let you know that the message you get when sending a mail to help@bugs.launchpad.net says: " If you have questions or comments about this document, please23:43
RainCTaddress them to {{{" (note this last 3 characters)23:43
RainCTit also refers to https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneEmailInterfaceUserDoc, which doesn't work, at least not for me..23:45
RainCTwell, good night23:46

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