[00:17] New bug: #194576 in malone "e-mail reply from help@bugs.launchpad.net missing content" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194576 [02:36] New bug: #194601 in malone "Mailed bug attachments aren't attached, but in the bug itself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194601 [03:30] Odd_Bloke/Odd_Blok2: you need to fix your connection [03:59] my emails arnt working at this moment so i thought this would be the next best place, OOPS-784EA12 [04:00] how do I go about using my PPA to build a new package for both gutsy and hardy? [04:08] can someone help me figure this out? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12160394/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.firebug_1.1.0%7Eb11%2Bsvn317-0ubuntu2_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz [04:11] jetsaredim:thats a bug with the launchpad ppa system "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/jetsaredim/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" [04:13] awesome [04:13] so, how do i fix? [04:14] you cant im sorry to say [04:14] (i think) [04:17] so, how do i get my package into my ppa? [04:19] Odd_Blok2: please, fix your connection! [04:20] jetsaredim: hmm, thats the million dollar question. try do it again [04:20] i need to bump my package version then? [04:20] hmm, just add ~ppa1 or something to the end [04:21] or can i just dput -f or something? [04:41] omfg [04:42] ok - can someone tell me how to include another ppa in my build chroot? [04:51] Don't think you can. [04:51] You need to upload whatever it is to yours [04:53] so upload the dep into my ppa and build it? [05:11] Yep [05:11] is there a way to do that from the source package? [05:12] I can't seem to find the branch === gryc_ is now known as gryc [06:26] Hello everyone. I just received a question, which I've never thought of before. When you post a reply to a bug on launchpad, mail is sent out to other participants, and they can see your mail address. Is that normal behaviour? [06:27] XiXaQ: yes and yes [06:28] * Hobbsee watches the mails on lp users happily [06:37] hmm. Isn't that abit strange in this day and age? [06:37] XiXaQ: it's a bug. [06:37] well, it's a bug if you've set your email to be private [06:37] otherwise, it's intended [06:42] oh, so not hiding e-mail address is default then? [06:44] * Fujitsu has forgotten after 3 years. [06:47] * Hobbsee adds fuel to the fire. [06:47] * Fujitsu incinerates Hobbsee for common sense. [06:47] heh [06:52] Fujitsu: actually...to create some real fuel...it would be helpful to CC ubuntu-women@ and those kind of lists [06:53] Hahahahahha. [06:53] lp-users would exploe. [06:53] With a few extra ds. [06:56] Fujitsu: i look forward to the day where they force pictures too, so they feel more comfortable, then hear the outcry then [07:18] hello all [07:19] The Launchpad answer tracker support team channel is up.. #ubuntu-helpteam [07:19] That sounds like the Ubuntu answer tracker. [07:20] yes.. [07:20] Not the Launchpad one in general. [07:20] New bug: #194647 in launchpad "Launchpad sends me multiple mails about bugs when I assign them to myself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194647 [07:20] Fujitsu: ^^^ The bug we were discussing. [07:21] Yep. [08:11] Fujitsu: erm, what did cprov say a while ago? [08:12] if it's showing as published...then where are my binaries? [08:12] Which package? [08:13] Hobbsee: There's probably a queue. [08:13] * Fujitsu checks /+buils [08:13] +d [08:13] Hm. [08:13] Fujitsu: it's built [08:14] oh neat. adding teams to other teams is broken. [08:14] I suspect they'll appear in a little under 6 minutes. [08:14] Binaries still have to get publishe. [08:14] if i don't have permissions to add one of my teams to that team, *why* are you giving me an option in the menu to do so, then bailing out? [08:14] But it now builds from accepted, so sources on't have to be publishe. [08:14] Because it wants you to file a bug on it. [08:14] it must do. it must do. [08:16] * Hobbsee wonders why this wasn't seen before. [08:17] oh, it's only for restricted teams. so, for restricted teams, hide the option. simple, no? [08:18] Aha. [08:19] filed. [08:19] Sehr gut. [08:20] ja. [08:26] New bug: #194657 in malone "don't show the "add one of my teams" menu when users don't have permission to do so" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194657 [11:32] Hobbsee: Fujitsu: anything wrong ? [11:35] cprov: Looks good to me. [11:37] Fujitsu: good. [11:41] cprov: just confusion over when it says "published" and when teh binaries actually appear, i think [11:42] Hobbsee: uhm, bzr-team already complained about that, I have to investigate a UI solution. [11:43] cprov: right [11:43] I'm not sure how you can represent that better. [11:43] cprov: obviously, i'ts talking about sources published, not binaries...but it's still confusing [11:43] * Fujitsu saw a bug on that. [11:43] it'd probably be better to show whether the binary is published or not [11:43] Fujitsu: we could simply present the build & binary publication status [11:44] build status & binary publication status, that's what I meant. [11:44] Hmm... [11:45] Hobbsee: in the current code, the deb file link is only presented if it's published, but I think it's too subtle [11:45] Perhaps a table with a row for each architecture, showing build/publication status, inside the usual source rows. [11:45] * cprov goes towards the coffee machine ... [11:46] Fujitsu: yes ... i could be in binary section [11:46] cprov: usually, people would want to know if the source was published, not the binary, no? [11:47] cprov: hmmm...with the new fixes, does the ubuntu, etc, stuff get accepted straight away too? [11:47] Hobbsee: Other way aroun, you mean? Most people don't care about sources. [11:47] Hobbsee: Has for months now. [11:47] Fujitsu: er, yes. [11:48] Fujitsu: right, good. i thought ti did, unless things were on manual [11:48] Ubuntu has been builing from accepte for a long time, as far as I know. [11:48] so, then why would anyone care about whether the source was published at all? [11:48] It's the easiest thing to show. I can't see a way to cleanly show the binaries. [11:50] Hobbsee: Fujitsu: no, ubuntu sources still have to wait the queue-builder run to be dispatched. [11:50] cprov: will that change anytime soon? [11:50] * Fujitsu didn't think that was what Hobbsee asked. [11:51] Hobbsee: yes, at some point in this milestone [11:52] Fujitsu: it's what i meant to ask. i may have phrased it badly [11:52] Ah, sorry. [11:53] Fujitsu: if the sources automatically, almost instantly get queued to build binaries, and all that remains is the build queue, then the only important "published" status is for the binaries, no? [11:53] cprov: ah, good. [11:53] Hobbsee: That's a good point. [11:53] Fujitsu: which means the question of what information to show, in that box, is trivial. [11:53] But how to show the multiple statuses? [11:54] Fujitsu: what would the required statuses be? [11:54] You've got a status for each of the three archs. [11:55] oh. [11:55] hm. the first one, i think. [11:55] architectures built, as in i386, amd64, ***lpia*** [11:55] wouldn't be all of them, else ubuntu's stuff would rarely be published (thanks ppa) [11:55] er, thanks *hppa* [11:55] cprov: yeah [11:55] hppa isn't bad these days. [11:55] Fujitsu: i think if you had at least one of the arches built, it should be OK [11:56] and should be listed as published [11:56] either that, or requiring {amd64, i386} to be published, as those are the most common ones [12:00] There must be a less ugly way to do that. Special-casing archs sounds very wrong. [12:00] Fujitsu: +1 [12:01] Fujitsu: which is why i'd go with "one arch is built. mark as published" [12:01] we could simply present the archs being built and their status (as color) in a column [12:01] Speaking of things like this, the build failures column on +packages needs to be made more useful. [12:01] Fujitsu: and hope that the others are fairly fast [12:01] cprov: I'd considered that. I suppose it would work with so few archs. [12:01] (which, in practice, they tend to be) [12:02] yes, it's fairly limited.. [architectures domain] [12:04] Having columns for each with the status progressing Pending->Builing->Accepted->Published could well work. [12:07] Fujitsu: I was thinking in a single columns, "Binaries" which would contains the architecture tags linking to the build page and representing their status with colors [12:08] I don't particularly like the idea of having status encoded exclusively by colour. [12:08] Fujitsu: we have the build icons, if you prefer [12:08] Ooh, that's true. [12:08] Still not ideal, but better. [12:09] Fujitsu: any other alternative to be considered ? [12:10] It'd be nice to display the full status, but the icon would work, particularly as it seems to have a title. [12:10] And an alt. Even better. [12:11] Fujitsu: yes, I guess, the icon will work fine. [12:12] Fujitsu: but it has to be besides the architecture-tag itself, otherwise it will continue to be confusing. [12:13] Yes. [12:16] Fujitsu: it could solve https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/191703 [12:16] Launchpad bug 191703 in soyuz "ppa overview page doesn't make failed archive visible" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) [12:16] It would. [12:25] Fujitsu, Hobbsee: thanks for helping with this. i have to go now, see you later. === cprov is now known as cprov-out [12:25] Bye, cprov-out. === afflux_ is now known as afflux === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [14:31] how do I pull a package from someone else's ppa into my ppa? [16:01] <_KAMI_> hi! [16:02] <_KAMI_> I am the current hungarian Localizator of Seamonkey. How can I get my translations into Ubuntu? [16:02] <_KAMI_> But https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/seamonkey says Translation setup needed [16:02] <_KAMI_> I have all translations in "mozilla form" [16:04] <_KAMI_> Same apply for IceApe https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/iceape [16:08] if I need someone else to commit to a branch I have on launchpad do I need to create a team to do that? [16:10] and why can't I use an email I have already for a team? [16:10] it says that email is used for my current user [16:16] figured it out, but it wasn't very intuitive [16:35] how can I get the translations of my program marked as "synced", so the bar in rosetta becomes green? [16:36] (project translations, not ubuntu translations) [16:37] Can someone please make intro2it into a super project? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/25435 [17:10] anyone home? === afflux_ is now known as afflux [17:30] Question : is it considered acceptable for someone unassociated with a project to ask for it's CVS/SVN repository to be imported into L=aunchpad? [17:31] !weekend [17:31] It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. [17:32] hopefully people are using their days off ;-) [17:38] Not only is it a weekend, it's FOSDEM weekend! \o/ [17:39] my connection broke down, did anyone answer on my translation/sync question? [18:42] awilkins, no, it's perfectly fine to request any project be imported! [18:43] how do I pull software from someone's ppa into mine? [18:45] hiya kiko [18:59] jetsaredim, you can't -- yet. [19:00] i mean - obviously there's no way to do it directly through lp, but i meant by some manual means [19:01] Download the source and then upload it to your PPA. [19:02] I think I tried that [19:03] so I should be able to download the source, debuild -S -sa, and then upload the source.changes to my ppa? [19:04] debuild -S -sa -kYOURKEYID [19:04] That or edit debian/changelog to have your name/address as the last entry [19:05] ah ok [19:54] If I add a new email address and change it to the default, is the old default notified? [19:55] danilos: ehm... I'm still here... since my .po/.pot files still "need review"... evidently, there is the problem you said yesterday with the paths. I can delete them and reload them without any path, but will they integrate with translations already done? [20:11] is launchpad's ssh down? it is giving me time out [20:12] I need to create a mailing list for the development team on a project. Is there a way to do this from within Launchpad? [20:13] tdoggette: you a beta tester? [20:13] Yes. [20:13] tdoggette: it was in a email sent to you on how to. [20:14] Great. Do I need to be a driver or group leader? [20:14] tdoggette: idk. [20:14] I'll check it out [20:15] tdoggette: what's your project name? GASP? [20:15] tdoggette: if so, its already set up. gasp-dev@lists.launchpad.net [20:15] tdoggette: see also https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp [20:37] Hello! I just formed a new project and I'm wondering where I upload my code? [20:37] sayers: via bzr [20:38] ffm, Is there any howto with that? It seems rather complex to use [20:39] do you have an ssh key? [20:39] sayers: http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/04/25/how-to-use-bazaar-and-launchpad-for-hosting-your-code/ [20:39] yes [20:49] Alright ffm I got my local bzr set up [20:50] but where do I commit to [20:50] whoa, I seem to have access to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/awn/trunk/+source [20:50] you set one up on launchpad too. [20:50] and push [20:50] I don't think I should be able to get there [20:50] Or does it just error out after I try submitting the form? [20:50] ffed, bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() is my error [20:50] sayers: you have gutsy? [20:50] ffm* [20:50] yes [20:51] bzr version is too old [20:51] okay. [20:51] sayers: don't use http, use ssh+bzr:// [20:51] So I need to compile [20:51] or just use lp:foo [20:51] ffm: there is not on gutsy, I think [20:51] is it?! [20:52] no idea [20:52] ffm, so what would an example command be then [20:52] it's several days I keep a virtual machine with debian testing inside just to give the "push" commands [20:52] bzr push lp:~sayers/nameofyourproject/trunk [20:53] but I don't think it will do [20:53] bzr push bzr+ssh://ffm@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ffm/gasp-code/gasp-0.x-stable [20:53] sayers: above [20:54] so /rateagirl/trunk [20:54] right [20:54] bzr: ERROR: Generic bzr smart protocol error: Permission denied: "This method is only for creating branches: /rateagirl/trunk" [20:54] terrific [20:54] i need /trunk/sayers ? [20:55] no, ffm's command is the right one [20:55] (or: bzr push lp:~ffm/gasp-code/gasp-0.x-stable [20:55] ) [20:55] Then what am I doing wrong iwth [20:55] bzr push bzr+ssh://sjsayers93@bazaar.launchpad.net/rateagirl/trunk/sayers/ [20:55] I think - not sure, but it's several days I'm trying - Gutsy simply can't do it [20:56] then what do I do? [20:57] I can tell you what I did: virtualize a Debian. But what probably you should do is recompile bazaar. Or try to install the hardy package, but it has dependencies too. Or wait someone more expert gives you his advice. [20:57] enable backports [20:58] sayers: yeah, I think this will do [20:58] ah [20:58] i didnt have a branch made [20:58] it's uploading I gues [20:58] guess8 [20:58] yep works [20:58] wow [20:59] in this case, I'm an idiot [20:59] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sjsayers93/rateagirl/main/files [20:59] well [20:59] I guess so :p [21:08] I've had repeated failures trying to upload a fairly large (~30mb) file to a download area. Each has brought me to the "Please try again" page. Any advice? [21:25] SteveM: Is it a normal Launchpad error page? [21:26] Fujitsu: I believe so (though I haven't seen it before today). [21:26] "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." [21:27] Right, that's not the normal one. [21:27] It came up yesterday too, and they're looking into it. [21:30] Thanks. It's no hurry. I'll just try again later. Thanks. [21:52] Fujitsu: may I ask to you for pot/po upload problems? [21:53] can the pycon meeting/sprint be added to launchpad as a proposed discussion/implementation time for blueprints? [21:54] Toobaz: I have no special privileges, but I may be able to answer questions. [21:57] Yesterday 2 files of mine (a .pot and a .po) where reviewed and approved. But... I uploaded them as I had them on my PC: the tarball contained the .pot and a folder "po" with the .po inside. Danilos, who approved them, said this could bring problems... and actually it does: I uploaded new versions of both but they are not automatically approved. [21:58] So I thought to just remove them and reupload without different paths... but do you think it shall give problems to already done (on LP) translations [21:58] ? [22:00] Can't you just reupload them without deleting the old ones? [22:00] yep, and it doesn't matter if I have to wait days, but shall them integrate with the translations other people did on LP? [22:01] or shall they delete them? or appear as other available translations? [22:01] Hmm, I thought they should be automatically approved. [22:01] You'll have to talk to one of the Translations people. [22:02] ok [22:02] thanks [22:03] can the pycon meeting/sprint be added to launchpad as a proposed discussion/implementation time for blueprints? [22:03] ffm: It's likely nobody here knows. [22:03] !weeken [22:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about weeken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [22:03] !weekend [22:03] It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. [22:03] Stupid keyboar. [22:04] wow. I think I'll have a chat with ubotu [22:13] any idea how long it takes launchpad notifications to arrive? [22:20] or how I can stop getting them? I often get notified when I do something, which is just spam to me. [22:20] Launchpad bug email notifications? [22:22] that, and blueprints. [22:22] "ffm changed the priority of blueprint foo!" [22:22] Ah. [22:22] Well, you could always not subscribe to them. [22:25] I am the creater of said blueprint. [22:26] Ah. You're probably stuffed, then. [22:27] Fujitsu: hm? [22:27] You could unsubscribe, I guess... [22:27] Fujitsu: I'm not subscribed. [22:27] But there's no option to not recieve notifications about your own actions. [22:28] Are you the assignee, drafter, approver, etc? [22:28] Fujitsu: Registrar, Drafter, and sometimes approver. [22:28] They'll all probably get you notified. [23:02] kiko-afk: Thanks [23:05] woot, my project is featured! [23:05] what is it? [23:05] sayers: GASP. [23:06] http://launchpad.net <-- It's in the list! [23:10] is launchpad's ssh down? it is giving me time out [23:10] when trying to bzr push bzr+ssh://... [23:43] Hi [23:43] just wanted to let you know that the message you get when sending a mail to help@bugs.launchpad.net says: " If you have questions or comments about this document, please [23:43] address them to {{{" (note this last 3 characters) [23:45] it also refers to https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneEmailInterfaceUserDoc, which doesn't work, at least not for me.. [23:46] well, good night