[00:29] my setup has been down for over a month so im going to start from scratch, ill have one backend only system and 2-3 frontend only systems, do you guys recomend 7.10 or 8.04 alpha? [00:34] anyone? [00:38] 7.10. I had som serius problems with 8.04 and yeah... it's alpha. ;) [00:38] serious even [00:41] what problems did you have? [00:42] my problems have been with 7.10 and an inibility to get lineups from schedules direct [02:01] Hellooo [02:02] Where do i find deinterlacing settings? trunk-version (or .21-fixes) [02:02] Nothing under Mythfrontend->Utilities Setup->Setup->TV Settings->Playback [02:54] has anyone had trouble getting lineups from schedules direct? I havent been able to get any since the 1st of the year, i just did a fresh install of 8.04 alpha and it still wont get the lineups, very frustrating [02:55] its always 401 Unauthorized [02:56] Failed writing HTTP request: Bad file descriptor. [02:56] Retrying. [02:57] it repeats this a bunch of times then says Giving up. and finishes with its failure [03:13] Hey everyone! [03:14] Question; I am trying to get my wireless MediaMVP to work... I need to know what command or where to look in the tables to see if a firewall is running [03:14] *file stucture [04:22] MythbuntuGuest92, there is no "firewall" running [04:22] hello [04:24] new to irc? [04:24] a little [04:24] ok yes [04:24] thats fine [04:24] how'd u know [04:25] pleasantries are normally skipped, to allow answers to be fielded quickly [04:25] soon as you said "hello" I knew [04:25] ic [04:25] ;) [04:25] well [04:25] lol ok [04:25] hello back at cha [04:25] pleasantries aren't bad [04:25] but it was the hello [04:25] not at all [04:25] then the waiting for a reply [04:25] well it seems not too many in this channel [04:26] lol [04:26] yes [04:26] this is a great bunch in ths channel [04:26] so do you all know much about mythtv? [04:26] just FYI, we are still waiting for the question [04:26] hopefully enough to be users [04:27] lol , that too [04:27] because ive been working on it for weeks and i'm running into problems.. here's the question.. [04:27] lets have it bro [04:27] weeks? [04:27] ouch [04:28] * tgm4883_laptop hums the jeopardy theme [04:28] how could i get a standalone front to connect to a back [04:28] ive tried many many things [04:28] please tell me you googled, forums , wiki, docs, during that time? [04:28] did you enable the mysql service in MCC? [04:28] im not just running for help without research [04:28] yes [04:28] goood [04:28] i enabled it [04:28] yes to me or Tuv0k [04:28] ok [04:28] both [04:28] did you restart the back end? [04:29] yes [04:29] any error messages [04:30] yeah. could not connect to database. [04:30] thats what shows if i start the frontend . [04:30] and it asks for all the mysql stuff [04:31] which i've verified many times should be right [04:31] thats happening to me as well [04:31] ive been through 3 distros and this is my last [04:31] just have not got around to troubleshooting it yet [04:31] its worked the best so far [04:32] i mean, i've googled this for a couple hours [04:32] its odd because when the frontend was gutsy with a hrady BE, the FE connected to the DB [04:33] but now that the FE is hardy as well, myth .21, no dice [04:33] DB login has not changed [04:33] permission correct [04:33] DB optimized [04:33] on the remote frontend, what happens when you run the mysql test in MCC? [04:33] i've reinstalled back and frontend so many times [04:33] yet, endless login loop on the FE [04:33] mysql test... let me check [04:34] the backend works like a charm [04:34] tgm4883_laptop, I have yet to [04:34] let me check [04:38] failure [04:40] success! [04:40] pw was wrong? [04:41] hello [04:42] i just installed drivers for my tv tuner Huappage HVR 1600 [04:43] and it seems to have affected my video card [04:44] i followed the instructions on this page to make the installationhttp://linuxtv.org/repo/ [04:45] the driver is from this page http://linuxtv.org/hg/~hverkuil/cx18/summary [04:49] anyone help me out here [05:03] I have not been able to retreive lineups from schedules direct since the beginning of the year, I have tried lots of different things such as changing names and passwords etc.. i just got another trial from them with another email address and it doesnt work either, i am able to log on to their site just fine and can manually retreive info from them, but I cant get it to work with either my existing mythbuntu 7.10 setup or a 8 [05:03] that I just tried [05:04] I have googled, searched the forums, asked in here on multiple ocasions, and cant figure it out, schedules direct tech support walked me through the manual retreival and said since I could do it manually that it was a problem on my end not theirs [05:04] does anyone know about how to work with this? [05:06] dwf_starband, when you say you can pull the data manually wht do you mean? [05:08] um, its been a couple of weeks since i did that, let me find it again and ill show you [05:09] hello [05:09] anyone home [05:10] http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=295 shows how to download the raw data [05:10] dwf_starband: hello [05:11] hello? [05:11] im here for help, so i doubt i can help you [05:11] lol [05:11] well maybe u can [05:12] i just installed a module for my tv tuner hauppage HVR 1600 [05:12] and now my video card is no longer being detected by ubuntu [05:14] sorry, I have a different tuner, when I have trouble like that I google alot, I would use keyworks such as the names of the tuner and video card together, or tuner video card and trouble your having [05:14] google usually finds stuff in the forums that I cant find even searching the same forum [05:14] lol [05:15] its had for me to browse at the moment cuz everthing is so huge [05:15] the resolution that is [05:16] presumptious85, what kind of video card are you using? [05:16] depending on the browser you can change the zoom, I use opra and zoom is an option under view [05:17] foxxbuntu: you see what i mean by manually retreiving the data? [05:17] dwf_starband, I think so [05:18] dwf_starband, what does mythfilldatabase show when you run it? [05:18] 401 error and something else, want me to run it and pastbin it for you? [05:19] yes [05:21] oh, i had deleted the video source to try starting fresh, ill set it up again real quick and show you what it says when i try to retrieve lineups, its the same errors as when i was running mythfilldatabase [05:21] k [05:23] i rememver i was able to run mythfilldatabase with i think -file and the data i had manually downloaded and it had inserted it into the database, but it was a pain with multiple steps [05:25] dwf_starband, what do you get when you try to do this: ping www.google.com [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=245 time=685 ms [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=245 time=1710 ms [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=245 time=701 ms [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=245 time=628 ms [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=5 ttl=245 time=617 ms [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=6 ttl=245 time=629 ms [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=7 ttl=245 time=629 ms [05:26] 64 bytes from yw-in-f99.google.com (74.125.47.99): icmp_seq=8 ttl=245 time=629 ms [05:26] --- www.google.com ping statistics --- [05:26] 8 packets transmitted, 8 received, 0% packet loss, time 45178ms [05:27] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 617.105/778.900/1710.056/353.098 ms, pipe 2 [05:27] pastbin doesnt seem to be working [05:28] !patebin | dwf_starband [05:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:28] !pastebin | dwf_starband [05:28] dwf_starband: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [05:29] dwf_starband, does that link for you? [05:31] i can browse to it and put in my name and past the stuff in but when i press the paste button it brings up a connection closed by remote server error [05:31] guess i lost connection there [05:32] dwf_starband, it works fine for me, I think your issues are related to your internet connection [05:32] presumptious85, what kind of vid card are you using? [05:32] foxxbuntu: nvidia 8600 gts [05:33] presumptious85, IIRC thats in the package nvidia-glx-new [05:33] so try reinstalling that package [05:33] is there a way to troubleshoot my connection? im using starband which is a satalite connection (i live in bush Alaska) Ive recently goten a new modem which is much faster than my previous one [05:34] thru synaptic? [05:34] presumptious85, no [05:34] this is the first time ive had trouble with pastebin [05:34] presumptious85, try this from terminal [05:35] dwf_starband, I think you are having DNS issues [05:35] presumptious85, $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new [05:36] done [05:36] whats the output? [05:36] thats it already up to date? [05:36] or is it installing? [05:36] yeaa [05:36] up to date [05:36] ok do this [05:36] already the newest version [05:37] presumptious85, $ sudo apt-get install -reinstall nvidia-glx-new [05:37] Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall] is not known. [05:37] sory [05:37] sorry* [05:37] presumptious85, $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx-new [05:38] Reinstallation of nvidia-glx-new is not possible, since it cannot be downloaded. [05:38] ah [05:40] http://pastebin.com/d32d35b4 got this one to work [05:40] anyone notice tuner sound missing seemingly randomly? [05:40] presumptious85, open up synaptic [05:41] ok [05:41] Tuv0k, what do you mean exactly? [05:42] presumptious85, under settings > repos [05:42] ok [05:42] enable multiverse and universe [05:42] no sound from the tuner [05:42] Tuv0k, but not always? [05:42] recordings with no sound [05:42] k [05:42] they are already enabled [05:42] Tuv0k, do you have sound in livetv? [05:43] not always. seems the shows after midnight don't have sound [05:43] live tv right now, no sound [05:43] I was wondering why some recordings were missing sound. [05:44] I just happened to try live tv just now [05:44] and much to my chagrin, silent pictures [05:44] presumptious85, close that and open the "Restricted Drivers Manager" [05:44] Tuv0k, just out of curiorisity, if you bypass the mythtv box, do you have sound? [05:44] totally [05:44] tgm4883_laptop, thanks for jumping in here 3 convos at once was getting a little crazy [05:45] ok [05:45] presumptious85, is the NVidia restricted driver enabled and in use? [05:45] * tgm4883_laptop sneaks back out leaving foxxbuntu alone [05:45] yep [05:45] also the v4l2 [05:45] v4l2-int-device [05:46] Tuv0k, so is there a time period that the shows dont have sound? [05:46] presumptious85, pastebin dmesg for me [05:46] although that is not in use [05:46] how [05:46] ? [05:46] from terminal type dmesg [05:46] tgm4883_laptop, can't say for sure, I thought it was justa glitch, now I have to pay closer attention [05:46] and then copy and paste it into a pastebin [05:47] !pastebin | presumptious85 [05:47] presumptious85: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [05:47] but nba fastbreak on espn twice now, has not had sound, and its the after midnight showing [05:47] presumptious85, then paste the link to it in here [05:49] Tuv0k, well technically, all shows are after midnight [05:49] so i'm trying to figure out if it's shows between 12 and 2 or what [05:49] * foxxbuntu smacks tgm4883_laptop for that large level of /sarcasm [05:49] foxxbuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57033/ [05:50] * tgm4883_laptop smacks foxxbuntu for being foxxbuntu [05:50] tgm4883_laptop, I know...your my favorite too [05:50] Tuv0k, do other shows have sound? [05:51] checking [05:51] presumptious85, is this a vm? [05:51] vm? [05:52] as in vmware, no [05:52] ok [05:53] oh...I think I found your issue [05:53] wait a min [05:54] presumptious85, $ sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf [05:54] add this line: [05:55] ok [05:55] vm.min_free_kbytes=32768 [05:55] then reboot the machine [05:56] definately a problem [05:56] should i just add the line anywhere? [05:56] and save? [05:56] at the end of the file [05:56] and ctrl+x [05:56] then Y [05:57] all the shows with no sund [05:57] even a show I just was watching with sound [05:57] thinking it may be pulse? [05:57] Tuv0k, interesting [05:57] ight [05:57] reboots [05:57] I have audacious running [05:57] Tuv0k, are you using 8.04? [05:58] had to use the oss plugin lastnight, just switched it back to alsa [05:58] yes 8.04 [05:59] yeah, this is pissing me off now [05:59] I've deleted two shows thinking it was an isolated event [05:59] and you watched a recording earler that worked? [05:59] yup [06:00] reboot and see if it works [06:00] bookmarked so I could finish watching [06:00] reboot, argh [06:00] lets try a BE restart first? [06:00] foxxbuntu: i'm back [06:00] well [06:01] presumptious85, any luck? [06:01] Tuv0k, first try playing something outside of mythtv [06:01] nope [06:03] the system has sound fine [06:04] myth won't play anything now, not even music [06:04] Tuv0k, check the internal player audio controls [06:05] I did [06:05] thrice [06:05] Tuv0k, nothing on mute is it perhaps [06:06] presumptious85, I am still thinking it over...give me a min [06:06] ight [06:06] mute, hmmm its never worked before [06:06] I've restarted the BE [06:06] to no avail [06:07] Tuv0k, well it would be the frontend that needs restarted [06:07] the speakers crack like they want to play [06:07] Tuv0k, mute is FE only [06:07] I'm on tthe naster BE [06:07] master [06:07] Tuv0k, have you checked alsamixer? [06:07] so the FE as been restarted at least 8 times in our conversation [06:08] yes [06:08] Tuv0k, is PCM muted or all the way down/up? [06:08] no [06:08] system sound has not changed [06:08] all leveled up [06:09] Tuv0k, ok...sorry for my basics here...everyone is at different levels when asking us for support [06:09] I know, I'm fine, thx [06:10] not that I don't need help, but your questions I understand the drill :) [06:16] foxxbuntu: why wouldnt a make unload of the drivers work? [06:17] presumptious85, its a possability, but I am trying to avoid that [06:17] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4913/ here are my errors when trying to retrieve lineups do you still think its dns? [06:21] dwf_starband, no, that leads me to believe you are having issues with your connection to the SD server, however since you had issues with pastebin as well it still leads me to believe you might be having and issue with a firewall or modem dropping or blocking packets [06:22] so its possible that i have two issues, i would really like to solve the issue with connection to SD [06:22] I really don't want to reboot [06:23] presumptious85, try this...using the restricted drivers manager uncheck the nvidia reboot and then do it again to re-enable it and reboot once more [06:23] ight [06:23] Tuv0k, still thinking [06:23] me too [06:25] dwf_starband, this looks like one issue [06:25] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4333991 [06:25] dwf_starband, looks like it fails to authenticate each time it tries to connect [06:26] yes, but why? [06:27] dwf_starband, not sure [06:27] can you login to the website from that machine? [06:27] yes, there is no problem loging into the website [06:28] i have tried changing my username and password, i have tried a different trial account, (I have a paid subscription), ive searched and searched [06:30] no luck foxxbuntu [06:31] presumptious85, have you tried adjusting the resoution? [06:31] yeaa [06:31] but its only the 800 x 600, and 640 x 480 that shows up [06:32] Tuv0k, did that post help you? [06:32] if i gave out my test user id and password could someone else test it? or is that not really done? [06:32] i normally run on 1440 x 900 but its not long available due to this problem [06:32] foxxbuntu, not in the least [06:32] dwf_starband, sorry, and not a good idea in a public irc channel [06:33] vlc gave no picture, and hissing sound [06:33] Tuv0k, figured not but not sure what you were driving at [06:33] tuner in myth shows video, no sound [06:33] shooting in the dark [06:33] * Tuv0k ##$%#$@^$#$!!!!!!! rebooting [06:34] Tuv0k, this sounds like an issue I had a long time back but trying to think what it was [06:34] lol [06:34] dwf_starband, sorry, if I still had my VMWare server up (blew a hdd recently) I would test it [06:34] no worries [06:35] but I dont think thats the issue since you were able to get data with the SD guy [06:35] ok [06:36] i think i'm just gonna have to get a new tv tuner [06:36] dwf_starband, its a really strange issue...are you using wireless? or running the traffic through a firewall/router? [06:36] this one is alot of hassle [06:36] presumptious85, I havent seen much luck yet with that particular model [06:37] presumptious85, if your going to switch I suggest an HDHomeRun [06:37] does it run on windows too? [06:37] presumptious85, should [06:37] i have satalite internet, two cables go from the dish to the router, from the router i have it going to a belkin wireless router, but all of computers im working with myth are wired to the router [06:38] there are no security settings or firewalls set on the router [06:38] ok [06:38] i'd search on that [06:38] but first i have to restore my settings [06:38] presumptious85, I personally use the HDHR [06:38] i dont mind a make unload but that didnt work earlier [06:39] The HDHR works out of the box? [06:39] yup [06:39] well...with Mythbuntu [06:39] we enable the config utility it requires be default [06:39] by* [06:40] then you just set it up like any other tuner in the BE [06:40] ight [06:41] someone last night help me with thie situation i'm in [06:41] 'but i forgot what he did [06:41] it had to do with deleting a certain type of cx18*.ko files [06:43] presumptious85, im not totally sure on that one...so I don't want to cause a reload :) [06:44] lol [06:44] i'm gonna try a make unload and a reinstall of my nivdia drivers [06:49] is there someone I should keep an eye out for that might have an idea what my problem with SD is? Where do I go from here? Ive asked in the ubuntu forum with no real help, ive searched all I can on my own. what do you recomend? [06:49] presumptious85, sounds like a good place to start [06:50] dwf_starband, im not sure....it sure stirkes me as an issue with your internet/network but idk how to start helping you troubleshoot that [06:51] do you know whos speciality that might be so I can keep an eye out for them in here? [06:53] sound back [06:53] Tuv0k, what did you do? reboot? [06:54] dwf_starband, I would just keep trying and post in the forums, I don't know who specificly will be able to help [06:55] ok, i appreciate your trying [06:55] dwf_starband, yup...sorry I couldn't fx it [06:55] fix* [06:55] reboot> then fix the backend ip because I have a remote FE I just started testing tonight, and finally had to change from /dev/video0 to video1, because after reboot I guess the webcam for zoneminder stole the tuners parking spot [06:56] no worries, its pretty cool that guys like you hang out here to help, when I first set up i was in here for a week or more with questions and couldnt have done it otherwise [06:57] dwf_starband, spend allot of time in or around here :) [06:57] just do the same if you can [06:57] you will learn as you go [06:58] yeah, i try with the little time i have [06:58] I hear that, Im in process of starting a business and working two jobs [06:58] and spending time on this project [06:59] gota sleep sometime [06:59] lol...sleep whats that? [06:59] my wife is already pretty jealous of the time i spend on here [06:59] my wife is over it [06:59] I have been doing consulting for far too long [07:51] sound is dead in myth again [07:51] all I did was watch one show, started the second, and out goes the sound [07:52] this is a problem [08:00] seems when this happens, I have to restart pulse [08:01] my initial guest was correct, I could have saved my uptime...ugh [08:01] guess [08:02] now the question is, how many times does one have to restart pulse to use myth flawlessly? [08:02] Is the bug in myth or pulse? [09:01] good day [09:01] can someone help me track down, why I have a high idle load average on my master? [09:51] another question: is it possible to have two different DVB sources (in my case -C and -T) use the one EPG data (ex. from DVB-C)? I can not seem to get this setup correctly. Any hints? [09:59] cross-sourced eit is theoretically possible, as long as channels actually have the same name/number [09:59] which they mostly don't [10:01] well ... I usually renumber my channels, but I have tried numbering both sources the same ... it will not work ... so the only solution is to use an external provider for programm data? [17:25] sound issues, and mythweather map oversize issue [17:25] the 18 hr forecast does not fit peoperly either [18:33] so is the plan for weekly builds to have a "flag day" cut-over from 0.20-fixes to 0.21-fixes or will you reorganize the repo to have weekly builds from both branches for some period of overlap? [18:34] anyone have any idea if the 0.21 FE will work with an 0.20 BE currently? i'm currently holding off on updating my myth packages on Hardy for fear of having a FE stranded waiting for the BE to go to 0.21. historically myth has not had interversion compatibility between BE and FE. [18:49] Shred00, .21 is not compatible with .20 [18:57] tgm4883_laptop: damn [18:57] i hate when they do that [19:06] what, like all the time? hell, 0.21-fixes fro a week ago isn't compatible with 0.21-fixes from a fortnight ago [19:25] good evening [19:41] in 0.21.0~fixes16174-0ubuntu1 I can't switch chanels by selecting a chanel# anymore. Is this a known bug? [19:47] !bugs [19:47] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [19:47] or search trac at svn.mythtv.org :-) [19:48] sab13fl, check here https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ [19:51] tgm4883_laptop: what can I do to get bug #3640 included in 0.21? [19:52] dvb-c scanning and usage here in the netherlands is "broken" at the moment if you do not know how to completely manually setup all transports and channels [20:13] Rigolo, included in what? [20:13] are you trying to report a bug? [20:13]