[01:57] <kraut> evining
[02:46] <faulkes-> evening
[02:57] <pwnguin> so is there some magic i need to get myrinet working?
[03:12] <nijaba> hey faulkes- :)
[03:12] <nijaba> just replied to your email
[03:12] <nijaba> I have setup an lp project for the survey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-survey/
[03:29] <nijaba> faulkes-: some good info for you on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BzrMaintainerHowto
[04:46] <faulkes-> nijaba: thanks
[06:26] <peanutb> hello
[06:26] <peanutb> My apache2 install is dyeing every half hour for an unknown reason
[06:26] <peanutb> the error.log shows no reason it would crash
[06:27] <peanutb> what is the next step in trying to figure out the problem
[06:40] <faulkes-> peanutb: consider using strace
[06:41] <faulkes-> or check /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages
[06:41] <faulkes-> for any unusual messages
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> peanutb, turn up apaches loggin
[07:28] <achandrashekar> Hello, I have been on off and on, and am working in ubuntu 7.10 ltsp 5 (edubuntu). I have been fighting a ldap installation which uses libnss that causes a system lock up on boot when it hits the klog daemon.Has someone else run into this? And what can be done??
[07:28] <achandrashekar>  I tried to get on in the morning with no responses
[07:28] <achandrashekar>  thanks in advance.
[11:19] <nijaba> morning
[11:50] <faulkes-> morning
[15:54] <mookid> hello friends
[15:54] <mookid> :)
[16:06] <jjess1> hello9 mookid
[16:06] <mookid> if I
[16:06] <mookid> woops :]
[16:07] <mookid> if I
[16:07] <mookid> eeepc keyboard :D
[16:08] <mookid> if i'm trying to learn to use server properly - is it wise to avoid gnome/kde and stick to command line?
[16:08] <mookid> what are everyone's thoughts on that?
[16:08] <mookid> I
[16:09] <mookid> I'm learning it to go into web dev if that makes any difference
[16:15] <faulkes-> mookid: yes, learning how to do things via the cli will be immensely useful to you
[16:16] <faulkes-> I wouldn't say avoid gnome/kde, they do provide useful apps and such, but if you are planning to run a server (or many servers), understanding the command line is vital
[16:16] <mookid> ok I think i'll stick to the cli for now then - just wanted to check i wasnt cutting off my nose to spite my face =)
[16:17] <ScottK> Fundamentally while GUI apps can make things easier to do, they make it harder to understand your system.  If you want to administer servers, you really want to understand your system.
[16:17] <mookid> yeah that
[16:17] <mookid> that's one of the things i hate about MCSE
[16:19] <mookid> is there a way i can see which of the optional packages were added on the install?
[16:19] <mookid> i.e. DNS , LAMP stack etc..
[16:38] <AstralSin> anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu server over the network instead of via cd?
[16:38] <mookid> I would've thought so
[16:40] <AstralSin> hmmmm surely this server has a PXE nic
[16:41] <AstralSin> im having strange problems, i'm hoping a network install will fix it, i've tried burning 2 cds with 2 different isos where the md5sum checks out on everything, but i keep getting an error about corrupt packages
[16:41] <AstralSin> oh, found the network install instructions, btw
[16:44] <peanutb> it looks like from syslog that somoene is makeing an abnormally large number of connects to my ftp server
[16:45] <peanutb> oh doh thats my checkiing if online service
[16:48] <c1|freaky> is there a tool which reads a file and after it has read it deletes the content?
[16:48] <AstralSin> what do you mean? what type of file?
[16:49] <AstralSin> just a text file?
[16:49] <c1|freaky> yea.
[16:49] <AstralSin> cat file; rm file; touch file
[16:49] <c1|freaky> ok, thx
[16:49] <AstralSin> that'll read the file contents out to screen, remove it, create an empty file in its place
[16:49] <AstralSin> if you want the file gone completely, remove the touch file part
[16:51] <peanutb> im not finding anything in /var/log/messages
[16:51] <peanutb> and /var/log/syslog doest go back far enough
[16:51] <peanutb> gah... i posted that last night
[16:51] <peanutb> ok... Apahce is randomly crashing on me
[16:52] <peanutb> adn i cant find the cause
[16:52] <peanutb> as far as i know, nothing has changed
[16:52] <c1|freaky> ok
[16:52] <c1|freaky> what i want to do is monitor a directory recursively of file changes, creation etc. using inotify and post it to an IRC channel
[17:08] <faulkes-> peanutb: use strace
[17:08] <faulkes-> it will output a whole bunch of stuff you probably won't understand but when it dies, it'll pretty much give other people the information to tell you why
[17:09] <peanutb> ok
[17:09] <faulkes-> i.e. strace -f -o mystracelog.txt -p <primary id of apache>
[17:10] <faulkes-> primary pid that is
[17:10] <peanutb> k
[17:10] <faulkes-> if you do a "ps -ef
[17:10] <faulkes-> err, "ps -ef | grep apache" you will see all apache and all it's children
[17:10] <faulkes-> the primary pid will be the one who's owner is root
[17:10] <peanutb> i got it from a top
[17:11] <faulkes-> the others will be www-data
[17:11] <faulkes-> ok
[17:11] <peanutb> running it right now
[17:11]  * peanutb waits for the apache died email which will show up in an hour or so
[17:19] <mookid> #
[17:19] <mookid> ####################################
[17:19] <mookid> appologies
[17:28] <peanutb> ok it crashed
[17:28] <peanutb> lets look at this log
[17:29] <peanutb> http://pastebin.ca/915249
[17:30] <peanutb> faulkes-: if you are still around ^^
[17:33] <faulkes-> sec
[17:35] <faulkes-> err, I thought you said this was apache?
[17:35] <faulkes-> root@srv:/etc/lighttpd#
[17:35] <faulkes-> however, the last line of that file
[17:36] <peanutb> i ran it from /etc/lighttpd
[17:36] <peanutb> it is apache
[17:36] <peanutb> (I was going to get it up in the mean time but didnt get it working)
[17:36] <peanutb> yeah the last line is curious
[17:36] <faulkes-> 5679  +++ killed by SIGKILL +++
[17:36] <peanutb> could it be a cron job?
[17:36] <faulkes-> which makes me think something is automatically killing your httpd process
[17:37] <peanutb> because i know i didnt send it a kil signal
[17:37] <peanutb> yeah
[17:37] <peanutb> so what would do such?
[17:38]  * faulkes- shakes his magic 8 ball
[17:38] <peanutb> mmm
[17:38] <faulkes-> I would first start by checking /etc/cron.d/ and /etc/cron.hourly
[17:39] <faulkes-> as well doing a crontab -u root -l and a crontab -u www-data -l
[17:39] <faulkes-> that would be the first step in trying to eliminate if it is something the system is running
[17:41] <peanutb> i just deleted a few weird php ones in there
[17:41] <peanutb> just now
[17:41] <peanutb> though nothing had really changed
[17:42] <peanutb> we shall see if that had anything to do with it
[18:34] <AstralSin> i think the latest ubuntu server iso is borked, it kept telling me there were corrupt packages but i used an older iso for an install and it worked fine
[20:53] <z5000man> I'm having issues right now with Ubuntu Server 7.10
[20:53] <z5000man> I'm trying to installed ISPConfig, but I haven't even made it through the pre-requisites.
[20:53] <z5000man> Issues with bind, telnet, and I'm pretty sure it has something to do with /etc/network/interfaces
[20:53] <z5000man> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
[21:29] <faulkes-> could you perhaps better describe said "issues"
[22:07] <z5000man> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10p4 step 12, bind won't stop.  RDNC connect error.
[22:27] <faulkes-> that url gives a permission denied message
[22:30] <z5000man>  http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10_p4, sorry forgot the underscore
[22:31] <faulkes-> at what point in that tutorial, in the dns section, does your error message occur?
[22:37] <z5000man> right after I try to stop bind
[22:37] <z5000man> rdnc connect error
[22:38] <z5000man> I think my problems lie in my LocalHost and DNS, but i wouldn't know what to check for
[23:01] <faulkes-> iirc rndc is a control facility for named and options for it are setup in named.conf
[23:01] <c1|freaky> is there a tool which can tell me how a directory changed since the last execution of the program? inotify/iwatch etc. report in realtime or run as daemons
[23:01] <c1|freaky> i dont want that i need
[23:02] <faulkes-> z5000: man rndc & man rndc.conf
[23:02] <faulkes-> you might also want to check that iptables is allowing connections to port 53 to localhost
[23:03] <faulkes-> c1: I am not aware of any such tool unless you were to write one yourself
[23:40] <c1|freaky> how can i remove a mailman mailinglist?
[23:44] <faulkes-> sudo aptitude remove mailmain
[23:44] <faulkes-> err
[23:45] <faulkes-> sudo aptitude remove mailman
[23:52] <c1|freaky> heh, just a mailinglist not the package