| fdoving | am i the only one with a broken kdm/something on hardy? - it pisses me off when it freezes when i change from X to some vt, and when i logout from kde (to kdm). grr. | 01:31 |
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| nixternal | does anyone know if the KOrganizer MSExchange Plugin is installed as a part of KOrganizer, or is there a package for it somewhere? | 02:16 |
| === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| nixternal | has 3.5.9 been backported to Gutsy by chance? | 02:41 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee or ScottK: since Riddell isn't around, what do you think about bug 138950 | 02:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138950 in kdepim "[gutsy] Search for 'email' in gnome-app-install does not find kontact" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138950 | 02:53 |
| vorian | yay! | 03:20 |
| vorian | done with work for the day | 03:20 |
| vorian | man this week was long | 03:20 |
| === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh | ||
| nixternal | woo, up to 106 fixed bugs! | 04:05 |
| vorian | nixternal: you teh awesome | 04:21 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: 105. That akregator thing still happens for me. | 07:04 |
| nixternal | which one is that? | 07:07 |
| nixternal | I have worked on so much akregator stuff | 07:07 |
| ScottK2 | Bug #82594 | 07:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 82594 in kdepim "Akregrator starts automatically in Feisty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82594 | 07:10 |
| nixternal | are you using 3.5.9? | 07:16 |
| ScottK2 | Yes | 07:16 |
| ScottK2 | I even updated one more time just to be sure right before I tested it. | 07:17 |
| nixternal | hrmm, if I fire up Kontact, it doesn't start..if I fire up Akregator, then log out and log back on, Akregator isn't starting back up | 07:18 |
| nixternal | if it is still doing it, then it is the KDE save state that is getting you and not akregator | 07:18 |
| ScottK2 | Start Kontact. Don't start Akregator. Reboot with Kontact running. I get Akregator running after the reboot. | 07:19 |
| ScottK2 | That's slightly different than what you describe testing. | 07:19 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I don't get that...it must be a stuck config possibly for you? | 07:20 |
| nixternal | Akregator doesn't start up here until I tell it to | 07:20 |
| nixternal | I even have "Show Icon" selected | 07:20 |
| ScottK2 | Unlikely since I've never used Akregator on that machine, I think it's unlikely | 07:20 |
| ScottK2 | It's all default and it does it with more than one user. | 07:20 |
| * nixternal gives it another shot | 07:21 | |
| nixternal | OK, does it automatically check your feeds or no? | 07:23 |
| nixternal | it doesn't check my feeds until I actually hit the "check all feeds" button | 07:24 |
| nixternal | nixternal@ShakaDoobie:~$ ps -e |grep akregator | 07:25 |
| nixternal | nixternal@ShakaDoobie:~$ | 07:25 |
| nixternal | nada | 07:25 |
| ScottK2 | Weird. For me as soon as it's running I have the Akgregator icon telling me how many unread I have. | 07:25 |
| serega | Hey | 07:25 |
| ScottK2 | I'll try and fiddle with it some more and see if I can replicate it on another box. | 07:26 |
| nixternal | I have the Akregator icon, but it isn't checking my feeds until I hit the downloads | 07:26 |
| nixternal | hiya serega | 07:26 |
| nixternal | well, one thing too about Akregator, none of the KDE 3 bugs are going to be fixed upstream apparently either | 07:26 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: If you have the icon, then Akregator is running. | 07:26 |
| ScottK2 | That's a bug. | 07:27 |
| * nixternal thinks it is time to write a solid feed reader | 07:27 | |
| ScottK2 | I'm outta gas. I'm off to bed. Good night. | 07:27 |
| nixternal | ScottK2: I can have it not show the icon, but akregator isn't showing up anywhere as running | 07:27 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 07:27 |
| ScottK2 | So why does the icon show up? | 07:27 |
| nixternal | cuz I tell it to | 07:27 |
| ScottK2 | But I never did. | 07:28 |
| nixternal | ahhhh, I see what you are saying | 07:28 |
| ScottK2 | Really going to bed now. | 07:28 |
| nixternal | I didn't start it actually before I logged out | 07:28 |
| nixternal | however it did show up | 07:28 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 07:28 |
| ScottK | Not there before reboot. There after. Not what it should be. | 07:28 |
| nixternal | still isn't checking anything, and akregator doesn't show in sys info until I run a feed grab | 07:28 |
| ScottK | It's doing something it wasn't before. | 07:29 |
| ScottK | Off to bed. No. Really. | 07:29 |
| nixternal | I see what you are saying, then I guess that is a bug, the icon shouldn't start up, but you can prevent the icon and it not checking by selecting those 2 options | 07:29 |
| serega | where to file issues of hardy? I believe there is separate bugtracker | 07:29 |
| nixternal | hehe, g'nite | 07:29 |
| nixternal | nope | 07:29 |
| nixternal | serega: all the same bug tracker | 07:29 |
| serega | ScottK: good night | 07:29 |
| serega | oh, ok, how do we know the issue is about hardy? tags? | 07:30 |
| nixternal | add the information that is a hardy bug, or start off the subject of the report with [Hardy], or as you said, tag it as hardy :) | 07:31 |
| serega | thanks ;) | 07:31 |
| * serega masters packaging voodoo | 08:18 | |
| jussi01 | Riddell: good morning sir! | 08:42 |
| Riddell | hola | 08:47 |
| serega | Riddell: hey, Jonathan | 08:50 |
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | ||
| serega | I am performing "pbuilder create --distribution hardy". is it right distribution? | 09:30 |
| serega | I mean doesn't it point to GNOME-based one? | 09:38 |
| hunger | serega: I am no expert, but I think you are doing the right thing. | 09:44 |
| hunger | serega: AFAIK the pbuilder is a very bare bones system that pulls in everything listed as a build dependency in the deb you are building. | 09:44 |
| Hobbsee | serega: it is, yes | 10:30 |
| serega | oh... I see. The first "pbuilder build" is downloading kubuntu now :) | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | pbuilder is dm-neutral | 10:36 |
| yao_ziyuan | poor smarter, where r u | 10:40 |
| yao_ziyuan | but since smarter has pointed out how to install input methods in kubuntu correctly: | 10:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | install scim-skim-pinyin | 10:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | QT_IM_MODULE=... | 10:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | GTK_IM_MODULE=... | 10:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | you developers should already know how to fix that bug | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | yao_ziyuan: patches accepted. | 10:43 |
| yao_ziyuan | sigh | 10:43 |
| Hobbsee | sigh back. | 10:43 |
| yao_ziyuan | anyone with a fresh kubuntu please do this experiment: | 10:45 |
| yao_ziyuan | install the package scim-skim-pinyin | 10:45 |
| yao_ziyuan | then go to Konsole, | 10:45 |
| serega | Hobbsee: yes, I understand. It's just dependencies of my package :) | 10:45 |
| yao_ziyuan | press Ctrl+Space, and then type "wo" | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@saturn:~% apt-cache show scim-skim-pinyin 9:45PM | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | W: Unable to locate package scim-skim-pinyin | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | E: No packages found | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@saturn:~% apt-cache search scim-skim 9:45PM | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@saturn:~% | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | ? | 10:46 |
| yao_ziyuan | or skim-scim-pinyin | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: did you have a patch still for uploading for skim, btw? | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | yao_ziyuan: ah yes, that actually exists. | 10:47 |
| yao_ziyuan | install that package | 10:47 |
| yao_ziyuan | and "smarter" says he then gets chinese input | 10:47 |
| yao_ziyuan | go to a text field like the one in Run Command | 10:48 |
| * Hobbsee wonders why smarter hasn't provided a patch either yet, then. | 10:48 | |
| yao_ziyuan | right-click it, select "Input Method" in the menu | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | smarter is a dev, no? | 10:48 |
| yao_ziyuan | smarter is someone here days ago | 10:48 |
| yao_ziyuan | but i haven't seen him since | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | blink | 10:49 |
| Hobbsee | mq, you suck. | 10:49 |
| yao_ziyuan | Hobbsee: after installing that package, | 10:49 |
| emonkey | yao_ziyuan, I've installed that package but it happens nothing if I press ctrl-space and type wo | 10:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: in a text box? | 10:50 |
| emonkey | in a konsole | 10:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: maybe a re-login is needed | 10:50 |
| emonkey | ok, then I'll try that later | 10:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: in Run Command's text field, right click, and in the "Input Method" menu select "SCIM" | 10:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | K Menu -> Run Command -> Right click in the text box -> Select "Select Input Method" -> Select "Smart Common Input Method" | 10:51 |
| emonkey | Yes I did that | 10:52 |
| yao_ziyuan | i think the best way is to go to #ubuntu-devel and call for help | 10:52 |
| yao_ziyuan | since ubuntu developers know better in scim setup | 10:52 |
| emonkey | o_O I don't need it, i just want to help testing the package ... | 10:53 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: "smarter" said after installing that package he could type chinese ... | 10:53 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: by selecting "scim" in the right click menu of a text box | 10:54 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: and for k apps that don't offer a "Select Input Method" right-click menu item, he can use "QT_IM_MODULE=scim" to solve it | 10:54 |
| emonkey | konversation offers this option too | 10:55 |
| emonkey | but I don't how its possible to type chinese ... | 10:55 |
| blizzzek | that bulletproofx-thing in hardy is half-working. i can configure it, but a blank black screen follows. when i restart kdm via tty, it starts with the configured settings. | 10:55 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: if you ctrl+space and type "wo" and some chinese characters show up in a floating window, you succeed | 11:01 |
| yao_ziyuan | i recall now | 11:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | what 'smarter' said is this: | 11:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | 1. install "skim-scim-pinyin" | 11:03 |
| emonkey | done | 11:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | 2. possibily restart your session or computer | 11:03 |
| emonkey | not done, but I'll do that lazer | 11:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | 3. in K Menu -> Run Command, press Ctrl+Space, and type "wo", you should see chinese chars popping up | 11:03 |
| yao_ziyuan | emonkey: you're in kubuntu right? | 11:04 |
| emonkey | of course I've got nothin else ;) | 11:04 |
| yao_ziyuan | i'm watching a downloaded movie now. | 11:04 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: I prefer to sync from sid | 11:33 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: right. did that get done? | 11:33 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: yes, it hit the archie today | 11:34 |
| Hobbsee | oh good | 11:34 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: and also I hope to drop skim out of cd, and make it install after scim, then it can work fine in kubuntu now | 11:35 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 11:35 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: or we'd have a postinst in language-pack-kde-zh, make it call the configure of skim, then everything will be ok(for CJK user) | 11:36 |
| * Hobbsee nods | 11:36 | |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: do we need to talk with pitt | 11:37 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: unsure. ask him anyway | 11:38 |
| freeflying | or ArneGoetje, he is the right one now in charge of CJK support in canonical | 11:38 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: can we have a stable kde4 livecd now? | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | unsure, tbh | 11:42 |
| Hobbsee | i think so | 11:42 |
| serega | every "pbuilder build" it reinstalls a bunch of packages, is it normal? | 11:47 |
| freeflying | serega: pbuilder has a bit difference between buildd | 11:49 |
| jpatrick | afternoon | 11:50 |
| serega | do you mean somebody made changes to some packages between two builds? | 11:50 |
| freeflying | serega: no, I mean the way they work | 11:50 |
| freeflying | jpatrick: hi | 11:51 |
| serega | jpatrick: hi | 11:51 |
| jpatrick | :-) | 11:51 |
| serega | freeflying: so I should just ignore that? | 11:52 |
| serega | btw, very nice book "The Ubuntu Packaging Guide" | 11:52 |
| freeflying | serega: not sure :) | 11:53 |
| jpatrick | serega: there's a book on that? | 11:54 |
| serega | freeflying: oh... I'll dig on that :) | 11:54 |
| serega | jpatrick: yes, it is. nice PDF | 11:55 |
| jpatrick | serega: where? | 11:55 |
| serega | jpatrick: as I can see it is formed from several ubuntu wiki articles | 11:55 |
| serega | sec.. | 11:55 |
| serega | jpatrick: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/pdf/ubuntu/C/packagingguide.pdf | 11:56 |
| jpatrick | serega: ahh, that's _old_, I helped write bits of it | 11:56 |
| serega | jpatrick: well done, it's really very good | 11:56 |
| jpatrick | serega: might be a bit outdated.. | 11:57 |
| serega | jpatrick: how do you think, doesn't it outdated? | 11:57 |
| serega | :( | 11:57 |
| serega | jpatrick: what can you advice to absolute beginner? | 11:57 |
| serega | in packaging | 11:58 |
| jpatrick | serega: wait, I'm trying to get one I wrote on alioth | 11:58 |
| jpatrick | serega: enjoy: http://alioth.debian.org/~jpatrick-guest/kubuntu-tutorials-day-packaging.pdf | 12:00 |
| serega | jpatrick: thank you! | 12:00 |
| serega | I think it is the first thing to read for newcomers | 12:01 |
| serega | my greatest troubles and delays was about misunderstanding of packaging issues | 12:01 |
| jpatrick | "tutorials day" | 12:01 |
| serega | :( | 12:01 |
| jpatrick | packaging is an art :) | 12:01 |
| serega | jpatrick: it a magic :) | 12:02 |
| serega | *it's | 12:02 |
| jpatrick | any problems just ask us :) | 12:02 |
| serega | thanks, guys | 12:02 |
| jpatrick | and hopefully you day you'll join the... | 12:03 |
| jpatrick | !motu | 12:03 |
| ubotu | motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 12:03 |
| serega | jpatrick: kool)) | 12:05 |
| serega | I have some packages to add to universe... | 12:05 |
| jpatrick | oh, we're in feature freeze right now, so they'll be for ibix | 12:05 |
| serega | it's ok, the main problem I have no packages at all and cannot make it :) | 12:06 |
| serega | drivers for my printer | 12:06 |
| blizzzek | w00t, in hardy, every mouseclick is a doubleclick... | 12:14 |
| yao_ziyuan | i've done watching that movie | 12:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | glad to see you guys settle that bug | 12:41 |
| yao_ziyuan | so i can quit bothering this channel any more | 12:46 |
| jpatrick | hmm | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: you're on crack | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: please use bughelper for finding crash dupes. | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | for your own sanity. | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | there are recipes on hwo to do it - ask dholbach, or look them up yourself | 12:52 |
| === John4rper is now known as GNUoso | ||
| Hobbsee | !visternal | 12:56 |
| ubotu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! | 12:56 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | these crazy people who do by hand what there are tools for. | 12:58 |
| iRon | Quassel alpha is out! Trying it now.. | 13:23 |
| === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai | ||
| jpatrick | iRon: ooh, quassel | 14:44 |
| iRon | yep :) | 14:44 |
| * jpatrick still prefers irssi | 14:44 | |
| serega | jpatrick: is there a centralized store of "Packaging 101" logs? I would like to make a russian translation for them | 15:06 |
| jpatrick | serega: I have the latex source if that's what you want | 15:07 |
| serega | jpatrick: It would be great | 15:07 |
| * jpatrick msgs | 15:08 | |
| jpatrick | gah, everyone loves my latex | 15:15 |
| Jucato | (kinky) | 15:16 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dragonplayer.html | 15:16 |
| Jucato | woot :) | 15:16 |
| jpatrick | serega, IppatsuMan: please send your translations to jpatrick@kubuntu.org so I can tell everyone else | 15:18 |
| serega | jpatrick: okay | 15:19 |
| IppatsuMan | jpatrick: ok :) | 15:20 |
| Jucato | jpatrick: okies | 15:22 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: ? | 15:22 |
| Jucato | oh I thought we were playing a game.. "say 'ok' to jpatrick" | 15:23 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: rofl | 15:23 |
| === xRaich[o12x is now known as xRaich[o]2x | ||
| === uga_ is now known as uga | ||
| jpatrick | Riddell: I have a problem with kubuntu-es.org.. | 17:23 |
| jpatrick | hi jjesse | 18:23 |
| jjesse | hello jpatrick | 18:24 |
| jjesse | any suggestions from anyone on how to troublshoot sounds not working after resuming hibernation or suspend on gutsy? | 18:24 |
| ryanakca | Any suggestion from anyone on how to run amarok in KDE4? | 18:28 |
| jjesse | ryanakca: it just runs in my gutsy kde4 | 18:28 |
| jjesse | but that is the kde3 version of amarok | 18:28 |
| ryanakca | eh, nevermind, bug 191327 also happens in hardy | 18:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 191327 in kdelibs "7.10: en_CA causes KDE apps to fail to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191327 | 18:28 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: umm... d'you know if its kernel related or ? | 18:31 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: try running this and then checking for anything unusual http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Aadebug | 18:32 |
| jjesse | running script now | 18:35 |
| jjesse | what am i looking for in that script? | 18:36 |
| crimsun_ | that's the wrong script | 18:37 |
| crimsun_ | you want the one mentioned in the DebuggingSoundProblems wiki | 18:37 |
| crimsun_ | (alsa-info.sh) | 18:37 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: crimsun_ == sound genius, don't listen to me :) | 18:38 |
| crimsun_ | (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DebuggingSoundProblems) | 18:38 |
| jjesse | crimsun_: ok working on that script | 18:40 |
| jjesse | interseting getting an unxpected operator when i run that script | 18:42 |
| crimsun_ | you need to run it with bash as noted. | 18:43 |
| jjesse | ah sorry missed it | 18:44 |
| jjesse | sould problely read everything | 18:44 |
| jjesse | interseting script appears to be just sitting after i run it | 18:54 |
| crimsun_ | did you use --no-upload? | 19:00 |
| jjesse | crimsun_: yes i did | 19:01 |
| jjesse | and it "sits" after i hit yes to run the script | 19:01 |
| crimsun_ | ugh, so we need a sane state. Are you able to reboot, then run that script? | 19:01 |
| jjesse | yeah i could | 19:01 |
| jjesse | but sound works after i reboot | 19:02 |
| jjesse | its only after resuming from hibernate/suspend | 19:02 |
| crimsun_ | right, but we need a debugging starting point. | 19:02 |
| jjesse | ok rebooting | 19:02 |
| crimsun_ | if we can't pull the necessary info, it doesn't really matter | 19:02 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: I do use bughelper, not the biggest fan of it, but when it works it works | 19:04 |
| jjesse | and back | 19:05 |
| jjesse | ok ran script where does it dump the data? | 19:05 |
| nixternal | sound problems I take it if you are dumping data for crimsun_ to look at | 19:06 |
| jjesse | yes | 19:06 |
| nixternal | !pastebin | 19:06 |
| nixternal | :p | 19:06 |
| nixternal | that's where I always put it | 19:06 |
| jjesse | yeah i ran the script w/ --no-upload | 19:06 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 19:06 |
| jjesse | nixternal: don't have to go thorugh chicago today to travel... heading directly to atlanta :) | 19:08 |
| jjesse | ok time to get ready to board be back when in hotel | 19:09 |
| ryanakca | heh, he's always flying / travelling | 19:13 |
| crimsun_ | I thought I would be doing less travelling, but oh no. | 19:18 |
| crimsun_ | I guess that's what happens. | 19:18 |
| nixternal | anyone with gutsy able to confirm bug 194830 | 19:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 194830 in kubuntu-meta "usb stick not displayed anymore" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194830 | 19:31 |
| === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde | ||
| nixternal | hey, on a good note, all of those krunner crashes that delt with threading, well aseigo has seemingly fixed them and we should see them in 4.0.3! wooohoooo! | 20:55 |
| nixternal | on a bad not, using images2mpg in kipi-tools sure can stress a cpu | 20:56 |
| nixternal | ScottK: on another good note, the akregator icon issue has been fixed in trunk :) but we won't see that until 4.1 | 20:56 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: Sounds great actually. | 20:59 |
| nixternal | and on one more note, the mpg I just created, well it doesn't work in any player I have :p | 20:59 |
| nixternal | bbiaf | 20:59 |
| nixternal | break time | 20:59 |
| jpatrick | anyone know a good ssh host with irssi? | 21:13 |
| jpatrick | wb stdin | 21:21 |
| stdin | for some reason kwin thinks I've got a key constantly pressed and only logout/in will fix it | 21:22 |
| stdin | not fun when it thinks that key is F12 and I have yakuake running | 21:22 |
| jpatrick | err :-/ :) | 21:22 |
| === milian__ is now known as milian | ||
| xRaich[o]2x | Hi. Is it normal that a lot of kde4 apps link against glib? | 22:21 |
| xRaich[o]2x | I think it's pretty odd because the KDE team wanted the avahi team not to depend on glib. | 22:27 |
| * Nightrose is back home from fosdem | 22:37 | |
| Nightrose | it was great :) | 22:37 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 22:41 |
| nosrednaekim | were you in that KDE group photo? | 22:41 |
| Nightrose | jep | 22:41 |
| Nightrose | lying next to riddell | 22:41 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 22:41 |
| Nightrose | we had _a lot_ of fun | 22:41 |
| === r0uzic is now known as r0uzic_ausente | ||
| === uga is now known as uga|away | ||
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