[00:14] <tomer> anyone ever use cinelerra for movie editing?
[00:14] <tomer> do you know if can import avi files
[00:14] <tomer> how do you install it with apt-gget
[00:14] <tomer> ?
[00:14] <swatto> please can somebody help me - im getting Malformed URL system:/ - and i cant open system folders or run commands from k menu
[00:22] <ubuntu> hola
[00:22] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: problems?
[00:22] <ubuntu> estlh
[00:22] <ubuntu> estoy en el live
[00:23] <Oloughlin75> !es | ubuntu
[00:23] <ubuntu> I'm stay in kubuntu live
[00:23] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:23] <Oloughlin75> ubuntu: You are "on" live.
[00:23] <ubuntu> I need activate compiz
[00:23] <ubuntu> yes
[00:24] <ubuntu> I need to know if compiz run in this computer
[00:24] <ubuntu> but I use ubuntu not kubuntu
[00:24] <ubuntu> here is diferent
[00:24] <martijn81> ubuntu: try asking for help in #compiz-fusion
[00:25] <ubuntu> thanks man
[00:25] <martijn81> np
[00:27] <XenThraL> anyone familiar with SWIG?
[00:36] <crazy_bus> there is a program that shows you what programs are currently downloading/uploading  Can anyone tell me what it is as I forgot the name
[00:41] <martijn81> crazy_bus: was that a commandline tool?
[00:41] <crazy_bus> martijn81: I remember it being a gui tool
[00:41] <crazy_bus> is there a terminal tool that does the same thing?
[00:42] <jesse> Can someone please help me with Compiz?
[00:42] <martijn81> jesse: best to start asking that in #compiz-fusion
[00:42] <jesse> I didn't know there was a separate channel.
[00:42] <jesse> Oops.
[00:43] <jesse> Thank you.
[00:43] <martijn81> there is :)
[00:46] <kiefer> Hey all, When I try to play .rmvb file in Totem it gives me the message "the playback of this movie requires a realmedia demuxer plugin which isnt installed' how do i get said plugin?
[00:48] <Oloughlin75> !find grease
[00:48] <ubotu> Found: firefox-greasemonkey
[00:53] <Oloughlin75> !find firefox
[00:53] <ubotu> Found: firefox-themes-ubuntu, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg (and 71 others)
[00:55] <dbmoodb> hi there this might be more of an #ubuntu question, but does anyone know if you can use tracker to search files - like within documents - i know beagle can and - kat is it the kde thing..
[01:11] <mike18> my kubuntu load screen shows then stops very early on... i go to terminal 1 and it shows kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot... and sits there
[01:12] <mike18> how can i see a log of what it's erroring on
[01:28] <kidtoy> hello
[01:37] <subspider> hi anyone knows anygame to play like cs??
[01:37] <eirikeylandsbran> what about, drumrolls, cs!?
[01:38] <subspider> counter strake
[01:38] <subspider> strike
[01:40] <subspider> like counter strike eirikeylandsbran
[01:40] <eirikeylandsbran> yes, so play counter strike then
[01:40] <eirikeylandsbran> jeez, im to funny
[01:40] <eirikeylandsbran> sorry, I got no real advice to you
[01:40] <subspider> no
[01:40] <jeffy124> hi all, when booting up Kubuntu it shows the Kubuntu logo (Before it loads the login screen). what is this screen called?
[01:40] <subspider> but in linux i can't
[01:40] <subspider> ??
[01:41] <add616> how i can fix my apt
[01:41] <add616> i can download updates cause error
[01:41] <regeya> sorry, add616?
[01:41] <add616> please help me to fix apt
[01:42] <add616> i can't opened my apt database
[01:43] <add616> i can touch my apt for incorrect configuration
[01:43] <jeffy124> i think the answer to my question is bootsplash? am i right?
[01:44] <add616> please help to fix my apt database
[01:45] <adz21c> jeffy124: bootloader its usually called (see grub and lilo)) annd bootsplash is the screen with the kubuntu logo where it starts up linux
[01:46] <add616> hello
[01:46] <add616> if i restart the apt database will restore or noit
[01:47] <Pici> add616: What error are you getting?
[01:47] <add616> i can't opened my apt database
[01:47] <Pici> What does the error say exactly
[01:47] <add616> in other words my update manager
[01:47] <Pici> !aptfix
[01:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:47] <add616> it cause error configuration
[01:50] <jeffy124> adz21c: thought so...
[01:50] <add616> nothing happen
[01:50] <jeffy124> *my bootsplash doesn't show up, and i'm currently reading bug reports. anyone else had this problem?
[01:50] <add616> apt is locked
[01:50] <add616> how can i open the apt
[01:52] <add616> if possible to fix my apt in kpackage configuration
[01:53] <add616> for now i am running kpackage to fix my apt
[01:53] <Pici> add616: I can't help if I don't know exactly what the error message is.
[01:53] <add616> the apt database is locked cause wrong configuration
[01:54] <adz21c> jeffy124: running x64?
[01:54] <add616> i touch the repristory and add the site of compiz is cause by error
[01:54] <add616> how can i open my apt database in GUI
[01:55] <Pici> add616: You can only run one package manager at the same time, so close adept, synaptic and any apts you have open and try again.
[01:55] <Pici> If you arent sure what you have open, you can just reboot then try to open adept/synaptic afterwards.
[01:55] <add616> for now i the Kpackage to apt fixup do u think it really works to comeback may apt database or open it?
[01:56] <Pici> It might
[01:57] <add616> are u sure, how many percent
[01:57] <add616> i run the kpackage to fixup apt, do u think it reaaly works
[01:57] <Pici> I dont understand.
[01:58] <Pici> add616: What is your native language?
[01:58] <add616> visaya
[01:58] <Pici> !ph
[01:58] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[01:59] <add616> join #ubuntu-ph
[01:59] <jeffy124> adz21c: i have an x86 processor... or whatever you call it? i suck with hardware knowledge :S
[02:00] <adz21c> jeffy124: ok, thats a no :-) just i not been able to use a bootsplash for a long time for it just doesn't work for me and prevents booting, never got around to solving it, just wondering if u had the same issue
[02:02] <jeffy124> adz21c: i guess i'll wait for hardy... lol. screw trying a work around.
[02:02] <jeffy124> cya
[02:03] <add616> nothing response in tagalog
[02:03] <add616> may pinay po ba d2
[02:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> I just updated my Kubuntu laptop with the last update and ran into problems
[02:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was instructed to remove the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic and  in doing so, it removed my wireless card and my audio card.
[02:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> I re-installed the linux headers but my ipw3945 and audio driver aren't loaded.
[02:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> I already did the restricted modules and activated the  ipw3945 but it doesn't load the drivers and the ipw3945.ko isn't even on the hard drive.
[02:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> How can I fix this?
[02:08] <Amarox> good morning
[02:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> help? anybody?
[02:11] <add616> how long to fix apt database
[02:12] <add616> it takes more hours?
[02:12] <jetsaredim> anyone having issues with knetworkmanager in kde3 on hardy?
[02:14] <luccials> oi
[02:14] <luccials> algum brasileiro
[02:15] <mitchells00> ok can someone help... i wanna try KDE4 on kubuntu in vmware, i'm following these instructions: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php but i can't get past where it says "Install kde4-core" i tryed apt-get install kde4-core and got nothing...
[02:17] <mixed> anyone know if kubuntu supports two processors?  I have an old PIII with 2 processors and want to install kubuntu on it
[02:18] <mitchells00> it should..... try it...?
[02:21] <jetsaredim> mitchells00: hardy or gutsy?
[02:24] <mitchells00> nvm i got it ^^
[02:24] <mitchells00> forgot to update aptitude
[02:25] <mitchells00> 7.10
[02:25] <mitchells00> gusty i think? :P
[02:27] <mitchells00> it's installing ^^ i want to see all the new shiny things in KDE4.. see if it really is able to compete with vista with the majority of the end-user market...
[02:27] <mixed> mitchells00, im trying to start my machine with the gutsy CD, it tries to start but then all of a sudden my machine turns off :-(
[02:27] <mitchells00> i know it's not really ready to be deployed as such right now, maybe 4.1 or 4.2 but still to see how far it's come :D
[02:27] <mitchells00> well then maybe not..?
[02:28] <mitchells00> that's the beauty of live cd's
[02:28] <add616> if i ru the kpackage and update my apt manager do u think the apt manager will comeback?
[02:28] <mitchells00> try it, if it doesen't work, then you didn't damage anything finding out in the process :P
[02:28] <mitchells00> don't know.. i'm not that pro ^^;;
[02:28] <mixed> mitchells00, I just tried it, it didn't work
[02:29] <mitchells00> well then there's your answer
[02:29] <mitchells00> if the live cd doesen't work then the chances of the install working are VERY slim
[02:29] <mitchells00> :P
[02:31] <palandia> hi
[02:31] <palandia> i have a question please
[02:31] <palandia> i have downloaded the 7.20 DVD of kubuntu
[02:31] <palandia> i mean 7.10 sorry
[02:32] <mitchells00> yes....?
[02:32] <palandia> but i was wondering that it has KDE 4, when i finished installing my system...my KDE is 3.5.8
[02:32] <palandia> is there any chance to upgrade to KDE 4... it is much different?
[02:32] <mitchells00> i'm doing that at the moment actually
[02:32] <mitchells00> it's 30% done :D
[02:32] <palandia> my apps will continue working?
[02:33] <mitchells00> erm.. if they don't you can just boot back into kde3.5
[02:33] <palandia> is KDE 4 faster????
[02:33] <mitchells00> it's not replacing it
[02:33] <mitchells00> it claims to be, but i haven't had a chance to test it :P
[02:33] <palandia> ah ok
[02:33] <palandia> i think i better wait for your update notices...
[02:34] <palandia> do you have a desktop or a laptop system?
[02:34] <mitchells00> plus everything has been rewritten, so not many applications are really designed to take advantage of the new stuff :P
[02:34] <mitchells00> desktop
[02:34] <mitchells00> but i don't think that would make much of a difference
[02:34] <mitchells00> except power management etc
[02:35] <mitchells00> if you want you can install it too, but if you don't like it then just choose 3.5 when you log in...
[02:35] <palandia> ok...my point was that actually i have a AMD64 with powernow
[02:35] <palandia> running at 1800 Mhz
[02:36] <palandia> and i was wondering about if KDE4 would be faster....
[02:36] <mitchells00> hmm.. don't know what effect that would have... there is a live cd of kubuntu with kde4 as default.. try that
[02:36] <palandia> i haver ead that the apps for KDE 3 wont work at KDE4 is it right?
[02:36] <swatto> ive got KDE 4 installed - there is no system tray icons though
[02:36] <mitchells00> most probably
[02:36] <mitchells00> some might work
[02:36] <mitchells00> but alot might not
[02:37] <mitchells00> it's not really ready for full use yet... still needs to grow a bit, but try it and see what you think of it :P
[02:37] <palandia> oh! ok
[02:37] <palandia> i see..
[02:37] <mitchells00> wait untill KDE 4.1 or 4.2
[02:38] <mitchells00> i'm only installing it to see what the changes are
[02:38] <mitchells00> how far it's claims really do go,
[02:38] <mitchells00> and the set of new applications, apparently they work in 3.5 :P
[02:38] <palandia> how much does it will take the rest of your installation by now?
[02:38] <mitchells00> well it's 48%
[02:39] <mitchells00> says 16 minutes :P
[02:39] <palandia> i want to wait to hear your comments about it...
[02:39] <palandia> :)
[02:39] <mitchells00> i'm only running it in a vmware virtual machine.. maybe you should try that too? :P see for yourself what you think aswell!
[02:40] <mitchells00> but i'll tell you in about 20 minutes if it's worth downloading
[02:40] <mitchells00> :P
[02:41] <artur_> Hello. I'm running a Win program with wine. In the windows this program, when started, tries to find the Lessons in a CD-ROM, the CD must have a label like AB01_23, a CD with a different label is ignored. So, with Wine, i can make any directory be C:, D:, and so on. But besides this, i need more then the directory be D:, i need that the directory be a Cd-rom with a Label besides the Unit Letter. In the winecfg, in the tab Drivers, there's a place where i can
[02:41] <artur_> type some label(i think) but if i do this, when i open the winecfg again, the label field is blank.  So how can i solve this?
[02:41] <mitchells00> does wine have an IRC channel?
[02:42] <mitchells00> maybe a better place to ask, as people will know more on the subject :)
[02:42] <palandia> thanks mitchells00 i will be waiting .... please ping me... when you are done... i will be surfing the net...
[02:42] <artur_> mitchells00: thnks dude, now i'm there!
[02:42] <mitchells00> ok ^^
[02:44] <mitchells00> helping people while-you-wait is fun.. xD
[03:02] <martijn81> silent here
[03:05] <mitchells00> ok now i have KDE4 installed and kubuntu won't let me select what DE i wanna use :/
[03:07] <ubuntu_> Por fin! logre instalar kubuntu :P
[03:08] <mitchells00> was that even in english?
[03:08] <mitchells00> i honestly can't tell..
[03:10] <martijn81> me neither
[03:10] <martijn81> mitchells00: there is a menu to the right right?
[03:10] <martijn81> in kdm
[03:18] <palandia> mitchells00: do you mean that you cnat roll back to kde 3.5?
[03:20] <mitchells00> it doesn't install over the top of kde3.5..
[03:22] <palandia> so? i am not understanding then...
[03:22] <gtt> i accidentally deleted some files and also emptied the trash can... anyone recommend a way i might be able to recover some of my info?
[03:22] <palandia> when you boot you will have option for kde4 and another option for kde 3.5?
[03:24] <Oloughlin75> palandia: when you sign in, you can choose kde3,4 gnome fluxbox or whatever other desktop evironments you've installed
[03:25] <mitchells00> should yeah :P
[03:25] <martijn81> mitchells00: but you can't?? please alaborate
[03:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> My wireless network card and audio drivers don't work since I updated my laptop...
[03:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> I had problems during the update and in the forum, I was instructed to remove the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic package.
[03:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> this removed all of the packages dependant with it. Including my restricted drivers.
[03:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now, I have re-installed the linux-headers and the restricted packages but my audio and wireless doesn't work.
[03:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> any pointers?
[03:47] <mot> what's a better bittorrent client than ktorrent?
[03:47] <gundam_rx78nt1> azerues
[03:47] <mot> i read somewhere that there was a new client that was going to become standard in the next version of *buntu
[03:47] <mot> it wasn't azerus either
[03:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> well you asked for what is a better bittorrent client. not which one you read about...
[03:48] <mot> sorry, apparently it was a big name, i figured somebody'd rattle it off and it'd jump out at me. if i heard it, i'd know it.
[03:49] <mot> ahh
[03:49] <mot> deluge.
[03:49] <LinuxID10T> Anyone here?
[03:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> My wireless network card and audio drivers don't work since I updated my laptop...
[03:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> I had problems during the update and in the forum, I was instructed to remove the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic package.
[03:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> this removed all of the packages dependant with it. Including my restricted drivers.
[03:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now, I have re-installed the linux-headers and the restricted packages but my audio and wireless doesn't work.
[03:50] <icanhasadmin> anyone like OSS over ALSA?
[03:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> any pointers?
[03:51] <LinuxID10T> No pulseaudio is better
[03:51] <tuxwulf_> Hey guys ... and girls. whatever. How do I upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 without having to reinstall the whole thing?
[03:51] <LinuxID10T> Use dist upgrade
[03:51] <Hirvinen> !upgrade | tuxwulf_
[03:51] <ubotu> tuxwulf_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:52] <Hirvinen> tuxwulf_: Do *not* use apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:53] <tuxwulf_> Hirvinen: ... thanks! ... and sorry for still not being able to think of the obvious myself...
[03:53] <seattlegaucho> is there any way to upgrade in stages if I have not enough disk space?
[03:53]  * seattlegaucho wants to go from 7.04 to 7.10 on his laptop, but hasn't enought disk space
[03:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> My wireless network card and audio drivers don't work since I updated my laptop...
[03:53] <Hirvinen> seattlegaucho: None that I know of. How much are you lacking?
[03:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> I had problems during the update and in the forum, I was instructed to remove the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic package.
[03:54] <seattlegaucho> Hirvinen: about 200M
[03:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> this removed all of the packages dependant with it. Including my restricted drivers.
[03:54] <joseph> does kde have an 'official' scp client?
[03:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now, I have re-installed the linux-headers and the restricted packages but my audio and wireless doesn't work.
[03:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> any pointers?
[03:54] <LinuxID10T> Backup and reinstall 7.10
[03:54] <jetsaredim> gundam_rx78nt1: what hw do you have?
[03:54] <icanhasadmin> what's the command line command to download a file from a specific http location to a specific folder?
[03:54] <LinuxID10T> If all else fails backup and reinstalll
[03:55] <Hirvinen> seattlegaucho: Remove all possible temporary files and if you're still lacking, remove some software and reinstall it?
[03:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> It's a HP laptop DV6000
[03:55] <jetsaredim> icanhasadmin: wget?
[03:55] <icanhasadmin> ty
[03:55] <icanhasadmin> sry i'm nub
[03:55] <LinuxID10T> If all else fails...
[03:55] <seattlegaucho> Hirvinen: hmm, I'm pretty much at that point, I'll have to backup ... delete ... remove and restore
[03:56] <Hirvinen> seattlegaucho: aptitude clean, also some stuff under /var can be safely removed if you know what you're doing.
[03:56] <LinuxID10T> just about
[03:56] <Hirvinen> Be careful with that though.
[03:56] <Hirvinen> /var/log and /var/cache
[03:56] <icanhasadmin> the wget help file is REALLY big, you don't happen to know the syntax off hand do you? I want to get it into the /home file. is it like sudo wget http://www.location.com/file.deb /home ?
[03:56] <seattlegaucho> Hirvinen: btw, part of the problem is that for some reason rdiffback is running and backing up some documents and I can't find the process that runs it
[03:57] <seattlegaucho> icanhasadmin: wget <url> should do the basic download
[03:57] <LinuxID10T> You could also get real commercial support from canonical and they might be able to help seattlegaucho
[03:57] <icanhasadmin> where does it download? whatever folder i'm in?
[03:57] <Hirvinen> seattlegaucho: ps -efjH shows a tree list of processes. Or ksysguard.
[03:57] <seattlegaucho> icanhasadmin: for big man files, use konqueror with man:<command> and you'll be able to scroll much better
[03:58] <icanhasadmin> it's not that big
[03:58] <seattlegaucho> Hirvinen: yeah, but nothing shows rdiffbackup running ... I even use htop, looked into cron and anacron, nothing
[03:58] <Hirvinen> icanhasadmin: You shouldn't use sudo for wget.
[03:59] <seattlegaucho> icanhasadmin: yes, to be sure you can specify '.' as the destination
[03:59] <malbo> hola
[03:59] <seattlegaucho> hola malbo
[03:59] <icanhasadmin> why not? I just did lol, I thought I had to to put a file in /home/? because it wouldn't let me in the browser
[03:59] <malbo> hola seattlegaucho
[04:00] <malbo> estoy empezando a descubrir esto del konversation ;)
[04:00] <Hirvinen> !es | malbo
[04:00] <ubotu> malbo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:00] <malbo> ok
[04:00] <seattlegaucho> malbo: ... no pude prevenirte sobre los canales en español :)
[04:00] <icanhasadmin> brb
[04:01] <Hirvinen> icanhasadmin: You can move it to /home/ later with sudo. And because the whole point of sudo is that only that code which is necessary to be run as root will be run as root.
[04:01] <seattlegaucho> ubotu: I was about to tell him ... lol
[04:01] <seattlegaucho> Hirvinen: thanks ... I'll keep hunting
[04:06] <joseph> does kde have an 'official' scp client?
[04:06] <heinkel_111> joseph: konqueror will do it
[04:07] <heinkel_111> fish://
[04:07] <heinkel_111> and you should get going
[04:07] <joseph> yeah, but is there an actual client?
[04:07] <joseph> like gftp, for instance
[04:07] <heinkel_111> konqueror is!
[04:07] <Hirvinen> joseph: Konqueror is.
[04:07] <joseph> ok, other than konqueror then.
[04:07] <Daisuke_Ido> !kioslaves | joseph
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kioslaves - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <heinkel_111> joseph: what do you want to do with it?
[04:08] <joseph> transfer files from shell accts
[04:08] <seattlegaucho> joseph: konqueror behaves like a gui client for ssh protocols using 'fish://<user@host>'
[04:08] <joseph> yes, i know all about konqueror.  i'm just asking if there are other clients available
[04:08] <heinkel_111> joseph: konqueror does that1
[04:09] <seattlegaucho> well, konqueror is the official client, I'm sure that some of the other ftp clients can do it as well
[04:09] <heinkel_111> why on earth bog down your machine with a lot of other programs
[04:09] <maduser> firefox has a good ftp client
[04:09] <joseph> small, sharp tools.
[04:09] <joseph> that's the unix way.
[04:10] <joseph> konqueror bogs down memory.
[04:10] <joseph> anyway, thanks :)
[04:10] <Hirvinen> joseph: Small, sharp, easily combinable tools is the unix way. That doesn't really exist in guis.
[04:10] <icanhasadmin> can someone give me a command line command to test audio
[04:11] <heinkel_111> kde rules my world because of the integration and konqueror is the heart of all that
[04:11] <joseph> Hirvinen: alright
[04:12] <Hirvinen> icanhasadmin: cat filename > /dev/dsp or /dev/audio ?
[04:12] <seattlegaucho> joseph: you can configure konqueror to minimize use of memory
[04:12] <joseph> i just used scp from the shell
[04:12] <joseph> :P
[04:12] <maduser> theres an audio test in the system settings
[04:12] <maduser> quite the catchy tune
[04:12] <seattlegaucho> joseph: I like rsync better :P
[04:13] <icanhasadmin> God. I can't believe this still doesn't work.
[04:13] <icanhasadmin> I actually want to commit suicide.
[04:13] <icanhasadmin> I've gotten the volume control to control my speakers, i can hear a little "hissing" when i turn it all the way up. But still no audio from anywhere
[04:14] <joseph> seattlegaucho: you can pipe rsync through ssh, right?
[04:14] <seattlegaucho> joseph: yep
[04:14] <joseph> thought so
[04:14] <seattlegaucho> provides more options than a simple scp
[04:15] <icanhasadmin> aaarrrrggg
[04:17] <icanhasadmin> how do i force terminate a program i don't see running?
[04:17] <icanhasadmin> oh n/m
[04:17] <Oloughlin75> icanhasadmin: ctrl+esc if you like GYI
[04:17] <maduser> through ksysguard
[04:18] <seattlegaucho> icanhasadmin: htop
[04:18] <icanhasadmin> lol thank you, very interesting
[04:18] <maduser> or learn the pid and kill it as root
[04:19] <seattlegaucho> ... actually if you can't see it running, I'd like to know the answer ... see my question 'bout rdiffbackup before :?
[04:19] <icanhasadmin> are you talking to me?
[04:20] <icanhasadmin> is "sudo apt-get install alsa-base" not reliable for some reason? someone told me not to use it
[04:23] <seattlegaucho> icanhasadmin: I've never had any luck with that command, I just went w/ all defaults and dependencies while installing the players and 90% work
[04:23] <seattlegaucho> some don't, like 'audacity'
[04:24] <icanhasadmin> tell that to ati, the SB450 is like death
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> trying to get re-used to kde...
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> so far so...  okay i guess
[04:41] <SnoFox> Is there a way I can download the Wine package on Windows and install it from my HDD on Kubuntu? I can't get internet on Kubuntu without Wine... :\
[04:42] <iclone2> packages.ubuntu.com
[04:42] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, I had to dump konq , nspluginviewer was hogging 90% of the cpu processing , even when it was just idling
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> SnoFox: you can't wait no what huh?
[04:45] <icanhasadmin> Yeah, so alsa hates me. Anyone know why Im getting the error "WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.save line 40: ignoring bad line starting with 'options'" ?
[04:46] <GSF1200S> anyone know how to make kubuntu default to uswsusp on hibernate?
[04:46] <Wasserstoff> why do you need wine to get internet?
[04:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Wasserstoff: my question exactly
[04:46] <Wasserstoff> no
[04:46] <Wasserstoff> actually its my question
[04:46] <Wasserstoff> i'll let you borrow it though
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, which kde did you install ?
[04:46] <Daisuke_Ido> still using 3.5.8
[04:46] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm underwhelmed, honestly
[04:47] <GSF1200S> icanhasadmin: try going to that file and checking line 40 for the right syntax
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> it feels very detached and piecemeal
[04:47] <BluesKaj> good, dont install 3.5.9 ...it's very buggy
[04:47] <icanhasadmin> GSF1200S: if it helps you i added line 40 manually
[04:48] <icanhasadmin> options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[04:48] <GSF1200S> then you must have a syntax error there, hence the error- sorry I cant be more helpful- i havent had any sound issues
[04:48] <icanhasadmin> lol it's ok, i'm 100% positive the syntax is correct, that's why im confused
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> snd_hda_intel
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the module name
[04:51] <icanhasadmin> Are you kidding me? They are underscores?
[04:51] <GSF1200S> :)
[04:51]  * Daisuke_Ido nods
[04:51] <icanhasadmin> I AM A F***KING idiot face d*** bag
[04:51] <icanhasadmin> omg
[04:51] <icanhasadmin> I'm sorry.
[04:51] <icanhasadmin> forgive me.
[04:51] <GSF1200S> we were both right
[04:51] <GSF1200S> np. haha
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> icanhasadmin: it's okay
[04:51] <GSF1200S> we all do it sometime
[04:51] <icanhasadmin> I seem to do it EVERYTIME i type anything
[04:51]  * icanhasadmin facepalms
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> it'll get better
[04:51] <GSF1200S> yeah
[04:52] <GSF1200S> let us know if it works...
[04:52] <icanhasadmin> Well, it gives me the same error lol
[04:52] <GSF1200S> umm.. you might need to reload the module
[04:53] <icanhasadmin> this is really odd
[04:54] <GSF1200S> a reboot will do this but maybe Daisuke_Ido knows a command
[04:54] <icanhasadmin> I'm loooking at about 35 threads on ubuntuforums where people fixed their issues with my sound card while adding.. and i say verbatim "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack"
[04:54] <icanhasadmin> and it seems like 100's of people said this worked for them
[04:54] <icanhasadmin> why is mine erroring out
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, try the dashes
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo modprobe -r snd_hda_intel && sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that will unload and reload the module
[04:56] <icanhasadmin> fatal, in use
[04:56] <icanhasadmin> and it gives me the same line 40 error
[04:56] <GSF1200S> anyone know how to make Kubuntu default to uswsusp on hibernate?
[04:56] <icanhasadmin> i swear everyone and their mother uses this command to get their sound working
[04:57] <iclone2> FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[04:57] <iclone2> i got this also
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> yep
[04:57] <iclone2> i lost my sound after reboot
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> and even if i didn't i still get that line 40 error.. but i KNOW that's the right syntax
[04:57] <icanhasadmin> oh and my ubuntu takes about 6 minutes to boot, but I think that's normal for my slowass comp
[04:59] <icanhasadmin> I seem to be the only one on the planet with this bug. it's a very lonely feeling
[04:59]  * icanhasadmin sobs
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> close anything using sound
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> if amarok's open - even if it's not playing - it'll cause that
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i have to do the same thing when i come out of suspend on my laptop half the time
[05:00] <rjune> dpkg runs a script to configure ldap when it gets installed, where can I find that script?
[05:01] <icanhasadmin> everything is closed mate
[05:01] <icanhasadmin> same issues
[05:01] <icanhasadmin> if it helps, SB450, ALC861
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm completely lost now :\
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry i haven't been able to be of more help
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> tried in #ubuntu since it's not a kde-specific issue?
[05:02] <BluesKaj> 2 sound cards icanhasadmin?
[05:03] <icanhasadmin> no just 1
[05:03] <icanhasadmin> but it sees my modem as a second sound card i believe
[05:03] <icanhasadmin> yes #ubuntu seems to just ignore people a lot :P
[05:03] <Makuseru> are there any PC-based oscilloscopes in kubuntu/ubuntu?
[05:04] <rjune> #ubuntu is busy with folks trying to build routers
[05:04] <icanhasadmin> bingo
[05:05] <iclone2> actually it seems SB450 is controller and ALC861 is codec
[05:05] <BluesKaj> icanhasadmin, then you have to choose a default sound card :asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[05:05] <icanhasadmin> well not exactly, it seems that way but alc861 is actually a piece of hardware i believe
[05:06] <iclone2> isnt i said that?
[05:06] <icanhasadmin> maybe, lol sorry i'm a nub
[05:07] <BluesKaj> SB 450 is a Sound Blaster card , I believe
[05:07] <iclone2> no SB is south bridge
[05:08] <toker> I all
[05:08] <toker> Hi all.. rather..
[05:08] <icanhasadmin> either way doesn't make it better. a hundred people with this card fixed their issues with a line of code that crashes my alsa, it's so odd.
[05:08] <toker> I need to know if there are more repositories for ubuntu?
[05:08] <toker> for multimedia type software?
[05:09] <toker> I mean I know there is.. I just don't know where to find them so I can add them...
[05:09] <Pici> !medibuntu
[05:09] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:09] <toker> thanks in advance.
[05:10] <toker> Pici: If I was running the latest Beta.. which repo for the media stuff would be the best choice for me?
[05:10] <Pici> toker: What kind of media stuff? codec type stuff or media production?
[05:10] <BluesKaj> icanhasadmin, to know the exact name : cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:10] <toker> both
[05:11] <toker> I'm currently trying to master some dvd's.. and find myself in need of dvdstyler
[05:11] <toker> or something else that will let me use mpg files.
[05:11] <toker> Preferably with a nice GUI
[05:12] <Pici> Take a look at the ubuntustudio-video metapackage
[05:20] <toker> Hummm Looks like I'm gonna switch distros yet again :(
[05:20] <toker> *  Sighs *
[05:22] <mkquist> toker mandvd?
[05:23] <toker> man won't let me use mpg's...??? Or so it seems.
[05:23] <toker> it want's to do the conversion..
[05:23] <toker> and the files are already in the right format.. just need to be put on to a dvd.
[05:25] <toker> I really like Mint.....  I just wish kubuntu.. would add an install option to put in the repositories.. for the multimedia stuff.. during the install.. you know I mean I understand why they don't / can't / won't include some of the codecs and stuff.. but at least add a checkbox to get to the proper stuff that you need. after the install?  That doesn't seem like it'd be breakin' any rules..  since they aren't technically shipping
[05:25] <toker> with the product.
[05:26] <mkquist> toker: qDVDauthor?
[05:26] <toker> lookin at that one now. mkquist:)
[05:26] <toker> I need to get away from mint..
[05:27] <toker> I'm downloading kubuntu now.
[05:27]  * icanhasadmin molests his soundcard
[05:28] <Roy_M> can anyone list some things to check that might let me know why my keyboard does not work in Kubuntu KDE3. It is a weird problem becuase the keyboard works in KDE4 and works at the login prompt and on the tty lines but not in kubuntu.
[05:32] <Roy_M> I have tried both PS-2 and USB keyboards
[05:32] <toker> Roy_M: I have the same issues..
[05:32] <toker> I fixed mine..
[05:33] <toker> by switching to a usb keyboard and mouse..
[05:33] <Roy_M> how? do tell
[05:33] <toker> and then setting the USB options in the Bios..
[05:33] <toker> from OS control to Bios control.
[05:33] <toker> I mean I had that option.. I don't know if everyone will tho.
[05:34] <Roy_M> hmmm. Im not sure If I have that option, ill take a look. thanks
[05:34] <toker> that way my KB and Mouse were being initialized from Poweron via the Bios.
[05:34] <toker> hope that helps
[05:34] <toker> it solved my problems.
[05:36] <Roy_M> If I disable my USB controller in bios will that mean my usb ports wont work?
[05:36] <toker> yea, disabling..
[05:36] <toker> wouldn't be a good thing
[05:36] <toker> under the ... "Usb Emulation"
[05:36] <toker> I think it was in my bios.
[05:36] <toker> I could switch it from OS to bios
[05:38] <Roy_M> yea dont have that option. I might try and get KDE4 working but that dies with a recent update for me :(
[05:38] <zuluone> is there a way to make d3lphin have two connected panes exactly like konqueror file manager?
[05:39] <toker> Roy_M: Man that just sux..
[05:39] <toker> Sorry it didn't help ya.
[05:39] <Roy_M> toker, no worries. Thanks for trying
[05:40] <ghorse> hi there, complete noob to kubuntu.  need some help setting screen resolution.
[05:40] <ghorse> I've set the resolution several times now and for some reason it does not keep my setting.
[05:40] <ghorse> I am already in admin mode
[05:41] <zuluone> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:41] <toker> ghorse: I'd like to help..  but I'm downloading kubuntu now.. myself.. :)
[05:41] <ghorse> thanks toker
[05:41] <ghorse> anyone else can shed light on this?
[05:41] <zuluone> ghorse: ^^^
[05:41] <toker> ghorse: I think zuluone.. gave you a tip.. at least I think it was for you.
[05:41] <ghorse> oh
[05:42] <ghorse> I didn't realize that was for me
[05:45] <ghorse> thanks zuluone.  Program couldn't auto detect xserver and I don't know how to manually configure
[05:46] <ghorse> gotta wait for more knowledgeable friend to come over to help!!!!
[05:47] <toker> ghorse: i'd know how to help you in Mandriva..
[05:47] <ghorse> I don't know what Mandriva is.  Like I said I am complete novice
[05:47] <toker> but unfortunately.. I'm also going to be an extreem buntu n00b.. myself here very soon :)
[05:48] <toker> Mandriva is another * Flavor * of Linux.
[05:48] <ghorse> trying things I shouldn't try and screwing up my computer in the process
[05:48] <ghorse> ah...
[05:48] <toker> ghorse..
[05:48] <toker> it's the best way to learn..
[05:48] <toker> just can't be afraid to screw it up.
[05:48] <toker> make lots of backups.. of your stuff. :)
[05:48] <toker> and fiddle away.
[05:49] <toker> if you blow it up.. format and re-install.
[05:49] <ghorse> you are right
[05:49] <toker> it's what I love most about Linux.. 20 min install.. VS 1hr.. for WinDoze..
[05:49] <ghorse> I typed "sudo shutdown now" in the console and it did funny things
[05:49] <toker> and then forty thousand updates.
[05:49] <ghorse> it restarted and then my screen resolution was all screwed up
[05:50] <toker> question?
[05:50] <toker> why would you shut down from CLI anyway?
[05:50] <ghorse> cuz I left my mouse at school
[05:50] <ghorse> long story
[05:50] <toker> lol
[05:50] <toker> I know how that is.. done that... been there.
[05:51] <ghorse> that's why I need help to fix my resolution
[05:51] <icanhasadmin> are you kidding me? I sudo reboot every time.
[05:51] <icanhasadmin> it's actually faster than clicking i think lol
[05:52] <ghorse> I got a message saying something like "...type control-D to continue"
[05:52] <ghorse> but when I ctrl D, nothing happens
[05:52] <ghorse> it was like that for 2 mins then it restarted and my resolution was all screwed up
[05:53] <ghorse> now I can't change screen size in the system settings
[05:53] <toker> icanhasadmin: Does kubuntu.. have an application called. KrandR
[05:53] <toker> ?
[05:54] <toker> it's the tool I use in Mandriva to fiddle with my screen rez.. very nice and easy to use?
[05:54] <toker> It might help ghorse out..
[05:54] <toker> if you guys have it in one of the kubuntu repositories.
[05:55] <palandia> hi, does anyone installed jahshaka in kubutnu?
[05:55] <ghorse> I don't see KrandR on my list
[05:56] <toker> ghorse.. well that just bites.
[05:56] <ghorse> thanks for trying toker
[06:02] <palandia> anyone used jahshaka in kubuntu????
[06:06] <toker> ghorse
[06:07] <toker> after taking a cruiz through the ubuntu forums..
[06:07] <toker> it seems that krandr  has been removed.
[06:07] <toker> but seems like this is in it's place.   :    krandrtray
[06:10] <toker> either that or from what I am reading here.. krandr.. is included in the KDEbase packages.
[06:10] <toker> so you can just try to run krandr.. in your terminal.
[06:10] <toker> oh.. damn he left.. LOL
[06:10] <azzco> Has anyone else had problems with the newer livecds?
[06:17] <pcmax_> hola
[06:17] <azzco> Oh sorry found a thread, explaining the same problem as I'm facing
[06:18] <palandia> hey guys thank you very much for the help
[06:18] <palandia> i'll be back tomoroow
[06:18] <palandia> lol
[06:18] <palandia> bye bye
[06:21] <pcmax_> hola
[06:21] <pcmax_> alguien habla espanol?
[06:21] <stdin> !es
[06:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:21] <pcmax_> no hay nadie :S
[06:21] <pcmax_> pero gracias
[06:22] <pcmax_> por lo menos me contesto!!!
[06:22] <pcmax_> ::D
[06:22] <pcmax_> thank, you are the best help that someone do for me
[06:22] <pcmax_> sorry mi english
[06:22] <pcmax_> jeje
[06:23] <pcmax_> ubotu it;s a boot?
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it;s a boot? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <pcmax_> services!
[06:24] <azzco> Yes pcmax_it's a bot
[06:24] <pcmax_> jajajajajaaj
[06:24] <pcmax_> azzco you can help me?
[06:24] <azzco> With?
[06:24] <stdin> you haven't asked a question yet
[06:24] <pcmax_> I no can no't install nothing
[06:25] <azzco> pcmax_: graphics issues?
[06:25] <pcmax_> alwais kubuntu tell me that it;s anhoter service running
[06:25] <pcmax_> nop
[06:25] <pcmax_> graphics isues no
[06:25] <pcmax_> by example
[06:26] <pcmax_> i try to instal firefox and a message apear
[06:26] <azzco> Ctrl+Esc, kill all apt* programs. You have a apt* program running allready most likely
[06:26] <pcmax_> thanks men
[06:27] <pcmax_> now  i can close the service
[06:27] <pcmax_> thanks
[06:27] <pcmax_> you are the master, you anderstood mi horrible english
[06:27] <pcmax_> jejejeej
[06:28] <azzco> I miss my kubuntu desktop a bit :(
[06:28] <ForgeAus> !grub
[06:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:29] <azzco> I hope that wasn't for me. Can't install LiveCD and I don't have any more spare CDs to install alternate =/
[06:30] <pcmax_> why you don't downloading?
[06:31] <pcmax_> or make a reques for a original CD
[06:31] <pcmax_> it's free
[06:31] <pcmax_> I have 2
[06:31] <azzco> I went as far as trying to install using VirtualBox from a debian insall :p
[06:31] <pcmax_> ahhh ok
[06:32] <azzco> I know it's free pcmax_ I requested (almost) two years ago and got my nice shiny 6.06 kubuntu =)
[06:32] <pcmax_> well, thak  you azzco, i will try to install firefox
[06:32] <pcmax_> jeje
[06:33] <pcmax_> I will be back :D
[06:33] <pcmax_> soon
[06:33] <pcmax_> jeje
[06:33] <pcmax_> thanks
[06:34] <prseton> question does kubuntu support 720p ?
[06:35] <preston> if not how can i make a custom resolution for my screen
[06:42] <f00f> Hello :) Just installed kubuntu 64-bit :)
[06:52] <NickPresta> f00f, congrats! Are you enjoying it thus far?
[06:52] <f00f> NickPresta: yeah.. :) just updating all my packages right now.. but.. adept_updater was much snappier :)
[06:53] <NickPresta> f00f, aptitude dist-upgrade is even faster ;)
[06:53] <harmental> hey guys...i have a severe problem here after upgrade to 3.5.9...the kded process is eating up mu processor! google didnt....
[06:54] <harmental> help
[06:56] <NickPresta> harmental, does the CPU usage spike or stay constant?
[06:56] <harmental> constant
[06:57] <preston> how can i make a custom resolution?
[06:57] <harmental> NickPresta: now i did killall -9 kded and the problem stopped ...i relaunched kded....and everything seems fine....but kubuntu wont mout my usb drives...
[06:57] <NickPresta> and this is 'kded' (found via `top`)?
[06:57] <NickPresta> harmental, try `sudo mount -a`
[06:58] <NickPresta> preston, what do you mean, 'custom resolutions'?
[06:58] <harmental> NickPresta: i found via conky actually ;op
[06:58] <NickPresta> harmental, heh.
[06:58] <preston> well nothing in the xorg can match my display and i need it to fit perfect as 1167x664x60hz
[06:59] <harmental> NickPresta: with mount nothing happens
[07:01] <ForgeAus> preston can't you set a virtual desktop size?
[07:01] <NickPresta> preston, check out: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html (specifically the section where they define the Screen block and define a resolution in the Display subsection). Make a backup of your xorg.conf before you edit it (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak). You can edit the file with: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:01] <preston> i will thnx
[07:02] <NickPresta> preston, remember, you need to restart X after you make the changes (logout and select Restart X Server from the menu or press Control+Alt+Backspace)
[07:02] <preston> okay
[07:02] <NickPresta> harmental, I don't know of any other way to invoke the "automounting" that usually happens. You could try a restart.
[07:02] <harmental> NickPresta: i guess its because my usb drive are not on my fstab?
[07:03] <NickPresta> harmental, that would be it :)
[07:03] <NickPresta> harmental, how do you normally mount them? `sudo mount ...` everytime you want to use them?
[07:03] <harmental> i plug them
[07:03] <NickPresta> ahh okay.
[07:03] <harmental> and thats about it
[07:03] <NickPresta> I don't know of a fix for that other than restarting. Sorry. =\
[07:04] <harmental> NickPresta: but i think the real problem is kded.....
[07:05] <NickPresta> harmental, we haven't had any other reports in here of high CPU usage with 3.5.9 as far as I have seen. What happens if you restart? Does the problem happen again?
[07:05] <harmental> apparently the kded issue is an old one..and it reappears from time to time
[07:05] <harmental> yeap
[07:06] <NickPresta> harmental, hmm. I would file a bug report. It will either be marked as a duplicate, in which case you will find your answer, or you will have brought attention to an important issue.
[07:06] <harmental> also ...when i add the fstab line to include my usb drive i get (after mount -a): mount: mount point /media/IOMEGA_HDD does not exist
[07:07] <NickPresta> did you create a directory "IOMEGA_HDD" in /media/?
[07:08] <harmental> that was done automagically.....
[07:09] <harmental> NickPresta: ok....at least it works now....
[07:09] <vers> how do i transfer files to my ipod?
[07:09] <vers> anyone know?
[07:10] <harmental> but its kinda of a pain in the ass to have to create the folder and call for mounting each time i plug my drive....
[07:10] <vers> what program do i use?
[07:11] <vers> or install
[07:11] <NickPresta> harmental, you can add it to your fstab
[07:12] <NickPresta> !ipod | vers
[07:12] <ubotu> vers: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:14] <harmental> NickPresta: I would like to have my old "windows" behavior...(but only when it comes to plug&play :oP)
[07:14] <NickPresta> harmental, if you restart, you should have that functionality back.
[07:14] <NickPresta> if you don't, ask here in a few hours. Someone else may know the answer.
[07:14] <NickPresta> I'm heading to bed. 02:15 here. Goodnight all :)
[07:15] <harmental> thx....
[07:15] <harmental> sleep tight....
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> don't let the bedbugs grind your bones to dust in a bid to take over the planet
[07:15]  * Daisuke_Ido shrugs
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> it's late, i got nothin'
[07:22] <ForgeAus> in with the export environment command is it possible to use wildcards for say the $PATH variable? (ie /path/to/X11R* if you have say a /path/to/X11R5, /path/to/X11R6 and /path/to/X11R7 ?
[07:32] <stdin> ForgeAus: no, but you can do "for DIR in /path/to/X11R*;do PATH=${DIR}:$PATH;done; export PATH" as one example
[07:38] <ForgeAus> stdin, ok
[07:38] <ForgeAus> is that allowed in a profile (and/or profile.lcl) ??
[07:40] <stdin> don't see why not
[07:44] <ForgeAus> interesting syntax there actually I assume done; ends the for loop...
[07:49] <Daisuke_Ido> nearing 3 AM, std's getting close to the Ballmer Peak
[07:50] <ForgeAus> hmm is there meant to be a @ChanServ here? or isn't this chan registered?
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> it's registered
[07:52] <Daisuke_Ido> chanserv as a visible user is (on most networks) only around when there is a need.  which is rare.
[07:52] <ForgeAus> oh you mean when its used it shows up
[07:52] <Daisuke_Ido> eh...  not really
[07:52] <ForgeAus> hehe oh I was going to say, typical.. that explains why the one in ##Windows is there :)
[07:53] <f00f> lol
[07:53] <ForgeAus> well it is a problem magnet channel
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> it's used for opping and such, but actually seeing ChanServ as a bot/service *in* the channel usually requires something drastic, like a massive netsplit leaving everything in chaos.  that's how it worked elsewhere, i can't say for sure here
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> makes sense
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> windows is a problem magnet
[07:54] <Daisuke_Ido> ...  -magnet
[07:57] <harmental> hey guys...i cant select a different kdm theme from the kde manager.....
[07:57] <ForgeAus> Daisuke any OS is a problem magnet
[07:57] <ForgeAus> nature of the beast I'm afraid
[07:58] <harmental> and the theme i get is not even on the list!
[07:58] <ForgeAus> yes harmental
[07:59] <ForgeAus> theres several different elements to a theme, do you mean for the window-decorators? or the widget style (as in QT-styles?) ?
[07:59] <ForgeAus> whichever the case you can set them in kcontrol
[07:59] <harmental> ForgeAus: sorry...the login manager
[08:00] <ForgeAus> kdm instead of kde? um yeah you can set them too... but I can't quite remember where, probably still in kcontrol
[08:00] <harmental> kcontrol >> System Admin >> KDM Theme Manager
[08:00] <ForgeAus> :) see
[08:00] <harmental> thats where i am right now....
[08:00] <harmental> and every time a try to set different login nothing happens...
[08:01] <harmental> the login screen i get by default is not even on that list
[08:01] <ForgeAus> um... then maybe its because you need to use kdesu (or for newer models kdesudo)
[08:01] <ForgeAus> to run kcontrol
[08:01] <ForgeAus> (in root/administrator mode)
[08:02] <harmental> i can log as root from kcontrol....but hey...ill try that...
[08:02] <ForgeAus> ie, in a konsole type: kdesu kcontrol
[08:02] <ForgeAus> well if your logged in as root then the change should work
[08:03] <ForgeAus> I don't know why it does nothing
[08:03] <harmental> ill log out to see if it worked out....be right back...
[08:03] <ForgeAus> erm not just log out
[08:03] <ForgeAus> you log back to kdm but it probably inherits its defaults from when you logged in
[08:03] <ForgeAus> you need to exit kdm completely
[08:04] <ForgeAus> (probably pretty much the X-server completely)
 you log back to kdm but it probably inherits its defaults from when you logged in
 you need to exit kdm completely
 (probably pretty much the X-server completely)
[08:05] <harmental> ForgeAus: nop...didnt work
[08:05] <harmental> do i need to reboot?
[08:05] <ForgeAus> yeah I didn't expect it to, restart the computer
[08:05] <ForgeAus> I don't know if that will work but thats where I'd expect to notice the change if one is going to happen
[08:05] <harmental> ok...
[08:09] <ForgeAus> why can't kdm be ran in Xephyr and/or can it? if so how?
[08:10] <ForgeAus> (ie a nested X-server) - which is, I hear how people run whichever of KDE3/4 they don't run primarily...
[08:10] <ForgeAus> wb harmental did it work?
[08:10] <harmental> ForgeAus: didnt work either
[08:10] <harmental> :o§
[08:11] <ForgeAus> ok well I can't help you I don't know why the theme isn't changing :(
[08:11] <harmental> thanks anyway.....
[08:13] <harmental> ForgeAus: also ...when i unchecl the "Enable KDM themes" as root...that change doesnt stick either!
[08:13] <harmental> maybe i can purge+insall kdm?
[08:14] <ForgeAus> um you could try, I don't know if thats easy since I think kdm runs constantly in the background while your logged in?...
[08:15] <ForgeAus> if not at least I know you can't just run it again from inside a KDM-managed X-session - because it gets locked)
[08:16] <harmental> uninstalling kdm takes down also kubntu-desktop.....
[08:16] <harmental> arrrgghh....
[08:16] <ForgeAus> thats ok kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[08:16] <ForgeAus> it doesn't uninstall all parts of it
[08:17] <ForgeAus> but I suggest you reinstall kubuntu-desktop afterwards, I'm just curious as to what DM your going to use to log into in the meantime...
[08:17] <Fotis> Hi
[08:17] <fignew> right, the only thing you really need kubuntu-desktop for is when you're doing upgrades (ex: 7.10-8.04)
[08:17] <ForgeAus> (if you have GDM, WDM, and/or XDM they're alternatives you can use)
[08:18] <harmental> ForgeAus: i guess i wont boot until kdm is reinstalled safely again...
[08:18] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure what happens if you are without a DM compeltely, perhaps it logs into console instead?
[08:19] <ForgeAus> (note: harmental pretty much any element of kde that you take out is likely to take out kubuntu-desktop and KDM is a relatively fundamental element)
[08:19] <ForgeAus> at least those from a default installation
[08:20] <harmental> ForgeAus: so here's my plan: 1) purge kdm, kdmtheme, kde-kdm-themes, kubuntu-desktop; 2) install kubuntu-desktop (it should also install kdm); 3) reboot
[08:20] <harmental> what do you think?
[08:20] <ForgeAus> harmental, feel free to try it
[08:21] <ForgeAus> I'm just not certain that the purge will matter if you reinstall KDM afterwards since I think KDM may be running all the time your doing that so it might not be as fresh a start as your planning on
[08:21] <harmental> damn
[08:21] <ForgeAus> also it might not be a default component thats causing the problem (if its a configuration error for example)
[08:22] <ForgeAus> but, it may be worth a shot... I don't know for sure
[08:22] <harmental> i guess i could reboot after purging and login through shell...and install kubuntu-desktop manually...
[08:23] <ForgeAus> well if you login (recovery mode) you should be able to apt-get from there
[08:23] <ForgeAus> perhaps its better to purge kdm from there too
[08:23] <ForgeAus> (since you bypass kdm by goin to a console in recovery mode)
[08:24] <harmental> didnt get that last advise...
[08:24] <ForgeAus> ok you boot from grub right?
[08:24] <harmental> yeap
[08:24] <ForgeAus> in grub there should b at least 2 options, 1 your main (k)ubuntu login
[08:24] <ForgeAus> there may even be a memory test one
[08:25] <ForgeAus> and there should be a second (k)ubuntu which is (recovery mode)
[08:25] <ForgeAus> (or something similar that means the same)
[08:25] <ForgeAus> unless they've taken that out since edgy or so
[08:26] <harmental> yeap its all in there
[08:26] <ForgeAus> the recovery mode should boot up into a console window
[08:26] <ForgeAus> erm screen
[08:26] <ForgeAus> it doesn't boot into the X-server
[08:26] <ForgeAus> and should allow you to apt-get from there
[08:26] <ForgeAus> (so KDM isn't an issue)
[08:27] <ForgeAus> this means you can (with any luck) apt-get remove kdm
[08:27] <harmental> ok....it hink ill try this then: 1) purge all kdm components; 2) remove kubuntu-desktop; 3) reboot in console; 4) install kubuntu-desktop; 5) reboot; 6) pray
[08:27] <ForgeAus> then apt-get install kdm
[08:27] <harmental> but whats the point of removing kdm from console?
[08:27] <ForgeAus> (proably requires a sudo before the apt-get's depending on your login credentials)
[08:28] <ForgeAus> the point is that your not running it while removing it
[08:28] <harmental> wont it be purged when i reboot?
[08:28] <ForgeAus> thats what I'm not certain of
[08:29] <harmental> well...wish me luck...
[08:29] <ForgeAus> and if you reboot you won't have KDM to let you boot up into KDE anyway
[08:30] <ForgeAus> (unless you have an alterantive DM like XDM/GDM/WDM/etc..)
[08:30] <ForgeAus> (assuming that the purge worked before you reboot)
[08:31] <harmental> ForgeAus: its asking if i want to stop the kdm daemon....otherwise "the next version will take effect the next time the daemon is restarted"
[08:31] <harmental> should i say yes or no?
[08:31]  * ForgeAus shrugs I don't know
[08:32] <harmental> if say yes the X server will be stopped....
[08:32] <ForgeAus> this is one reason I suggested removing it from console
[08:32] <ForgeAus> yes
[08:32] <ForgeAus> that sounds right
[08:32] <harmental> so i guess i could say "no" and reboot as planned....
[08:33] <harmental> ok...so far so good....
[08:33] <ForgeAus> probably a wiser option again I don't know enough about running programs to know what happens there
[08:33] <harmental> everything is purged...and im still running my "precious"....
[08:34] <harmental> reboot time.....
[08:34] <harmental> see you 5 minutes (i hope....)
[08:34] <ForgeAus> if it doesn't reboot at least Recovery mode should work
[08:34] <ForgeAus> c u when you get back
[08:34] <ForgeAus> n good luck :)
[08:35] <ForgeAus> your nick sounds like an oxymoron s_l
[08:36] <antonio_> a
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> I need to add error indicators (standard deviation) to bar graphs. Open Office Calc can't do that. Is there a open source spreadsheet program that? KChart/KSpread? Gnumeric?
[08:38] <antonio_> Goooooooooodddddddddd morning Vieeeeeettttttttnannnn
[08:41] <jussi01> MilhousePunkRock: I was of the understanding calc would do that.
[08:46] <MilhousePunkRock> jussi01: It does, but wrong... If I have three sets of data that I compare in a bar graph, it will take the standard deviation for all of the data, so the error indicator will be the same on all three bars
[08:49] <harmental> ForgeAus: ok...sor far so good
[08:49] <harmental> im proceeding with kubuntu-desktop reinstall....
[08:49] <harmental> weird though.....i requirs a bunch of packages that was even install 5 minutes ago....
[08:50] <harmental> here i go once again....
[08:56] <romunov> how is kde 4.0 working out now?
[08:58] <jussi01> romunov: try in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[09:00] <romunov> do you think i'll get my answer there? :()
[09:09] <RingTailedFox> is there a way in the client server relation, (lan). that no client can start up unless its wire connected to the server?
[09:09] <grzes> :P
[09:09] <harmental> ForgeAus: i worked like a charm!
[09:09] <harmental> thank you
[09:10]  * RingTailedFox waits for an answer
[09:12] <f00f> hehe.. 64-bit is great :)
[09:13] <User41950987> Hello, I'm looking for a source control program simular to MS SourceSafe which I store my code from my windows machine and any development work i do on this machine.
[09:15] <Sbucatone_> hello world,
[09:15] <jussi01> hello Sbucatone_
[09:15] <Sbucatone_> :)
[09:16] <Lynoure> User41950987: never used MS SourceSafe, but there are many version control systems for Linux
[09:16] <jussi01> User41950987: could you not use somethig like svn or bzr?
[09:16] <jussi01> !info bzr
[09:16] <ubotu> bzr (source: bzr): Bazaar, the next-generation distributed version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.90-1 (gutsy), package size 1979 kB, installed size 10260 kB
[09:16] <Lynoure> User41950987: Subversion, bzr, git, cvs and so on
[09:16] <Lynoure> User41950987: Does SourceSafe have something that lacks from other systems you have tried?
[09:18] <User41950987> I've tried CVS with cervisva, but seems more designed for linux development.
[09:18] <Lynoure> User41950987: CVS is somewhat old by now, it's not very good with things like moving files around
[09:20] <User41950987> Ideally I'm wanting something that I can connect to with my MS machine over LAN directly with Visual Studio, as well as Mono
[09:21] <ubuntu> hi there
[09:21] <Lynoure> User41950987: do you have somewhere a list of what version control systems Mono and Visual Studio support?
[09:22] <ubuntu> i want to burn an image with the bash
[09:22] <User41950987> :-( no. Shall go do some more research
[09:23] <ubuntu> but there is an error: gernisoimage:. No space left on device. cannot fwrite 32867*1
[09:23]  * Signil is back.
[09:24] <ubuntu> what is to do??
[09:24] <ubuntu> any idea?
[09:24] <Sbucatone_> a bit tooo much general as question
[09:24] <Lynoure> ubuntu: What was the command you used? and is the cd inside empty?
[09:25] <ubuntu> wait
[09:25] <ubuntu> i typed: k6overlay iso /hello01
[09:26] <ubuntu> and an usb-device is mounted under /hello01
[09:26] <Lynoure> ubuntu: I have never heard of k6overlay
[09:26] <TimS> !info k6overlay
[09:26] <ubotu> Package k6overlay does not exist in gutsy
[09:27] <ubuntu> i typed also: chmod -R +w /hello01
[09:27] <Lynoure> ubuntu: but usually you write on the device, not on a mountpoint
[09:27] <ubuntu> k6overlay is a script
[09:27] <TimS> Ah
[09:27] <ubuntu> ok
[09:27] <RingTailedFox> is there a way in the client server relation, (lan). that no client can start up unless its wire connected to the server?
[09:27] <ubuntu> thats sound interesting
[09:28] <TimS> why not go with: cdrecord -v -dao speed=12 dev=/dev/cdrom isoname.iso
[09:28] <ubuntu> what i have to type to write on divice
[09:29] <Lynoure> ubuntu: what Tims said...
[09:29] <TimS> Just change the iso name and device.
[09:29]  * dana cheers
[09:29]  * TimS welcomes
[09:29] <ubuntu> do not tell me what simon says, pls
[09:29] <Lynoure> ubuntu: cannot really help you with the script you are using, as even google gets no hits on the name, and I have no idea of what it tries to do.
[09:29] <ubuntu> ok tim
[09:29] <Lynoure> ubuntu: "11:28 < TimS> why not go with: cdrecord -v -dao speed=12 dev=/dev/cdrom isoname.iso
[09:30] <Lynoure> "
[09:30] <ubuntu> jea, thats the point. i use a laptop and there is no other cdrom
[09:31] <ubuntu> that the proplem
[09:32] <Lynoure> ubuntu: just use the cdrom device you have? Or is there some reason it would not work (e.g. being on livecd which is busy spinning)?
[09:32] <ubuntu> (by the way the script k6overlay burnt the iso image)
[09:33] <Lynoure> ubuntu: ok, if it burned, I guess your problem is solved :)
[09:33] <ubuntu> of course yes. i have to use a livecd
[09:34] <ubuntu> wait lynoure not so far until now
[09:35] <dana> ubuntu: could you post your initial problem, as i have not read it =)
[09:36] <ubuntu> ok
[09:38] <ubuntu> i want to burn an image to an usb device, so far...but then: genisoimage: no space left on device. cannont fw 32768*1
[09:38] <ubuntu> any idea dana?
[09:39] <Lynoure> ubuntu: if you are on livecd, and that's occupying your only cdrom, which you want to use for burning, you can either install ubuntu, and then burn, or boot from some other device, like a usb stick, and then burn.
[09:39] <ubuntu> (i have to use a livecd-system and use a laptop with just one cdrom)
[09:40] <Lynoure> or you can try taking out the livecd and then burn, but I'm almost certain that won't work.
[09:40] <hangthedj> is hardy shipping with kde4?
[09:40] <dana> ubuntu: sounds like your root or tmp drive is full and you are unable to create an iso image
[09:41] <ubuntu> jea, but there is another problem...i must use aufs
[09:41] <ubuntu> and that is on the livecd
[09:41] <dana> ubuntu: why do you need to create the cdr ?
[09:41] <Sbucatone_> hangthedj: right
[09:41] <ubuntu> i am root
[09:41] <hangthedj> sweet
[09:42] <hangthedj> ubuntu, you don't sound like root.
[09:42] <ubuntu> something in between with the tmp drive i think, too.
[09:43] <ubuntu> i was root@ttf
[09:43] <ubuntu> it's root
[09:44] <hangthedj> ubuntu, i'm sorry, i was joking with you. we like to have fun where linux is involved.
[09:46] <ubuntu> (english is not my mother tongue, but i still do it)
[09:46] <hangthedj> ubuntu, I'm sorry, I just got here, please explain what you are trying to do again.
[09:46] <dana> ubuntu: what is it you are trying to burn and what do you want to do with the cdr, maybe there exists another solution without burning
[09:46] <hangthedj> :)
[09:46] <ubuntu> (and think i am doing well)
[09:47] <jussi01> Hmmm, I cant seem to get sound to play out of my second sound card. Does anyone have a link or tips how to do this? The setup is as follows, onboard sound (working) and an audigy 2
[09:48] <Lynoure> getting livecd on a usb stick, booting with that, like I said earlier, then burning, that would work
[09:49] <ubuntu> (@dana i have to burn this image, because the cdrom is able to boot and i like to make it smaller the image)
[09:49] <Lynoure> But piling two cdroms in one drive would not do any good, nor would trying to burn on cd that is currently mounted for reading
[09:49] <hangthedj> jussi01, in a terminal, what does lspci | grep audio give.
[09:50] <dana> Lynoure: you are right that would work for ubuntu
[09:50] <jussi01> 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[09:50] <jussi01> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[09:50] <ubuntu> oh happy there is then an other problem...i do not know how to create an bootable usb-device
[09:51] <jussi01> hangthedj: ^
[09:51] <Lynoure> ubuntu: there are howtos. I can help you to google up one...
[09:51] <ubuntu> (no dana then there is another problem with the program aufs which is just on the livecd)
[09:52] <dana> ubuntu: you might want to look for something on the web, I did it once and it involves partitioning your usb-key
[09:52] <hangthedj> AC97, thats fun.
[09:52] <ubuntu> thats looks very criticle and i do not want to go this way
[09:52] <jussi01> hangthedj: the ac97 works perfectly, its the audigy that doesnt
[09:53] <dana> ubuntu: i expected that, so why are you not installing the livecd on harddisk ?
[09:53] <hangthedj> jussi01, so you do have sound?
[09:53] <jussi01> hangthedj: I suspect it just isnt selecting it correctly, and tries to use the onboard card.
[09:54] <jussi01> hangthedj: through onboard, yes
[09:54] <ubuntu> in fact thats the problem: GENISOIAMGE. NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE. CANNOT FWRITE 32768*1
[09:55] <hangthedj> jussi01, i have two sound cards on my computer, a soundblaster, and ac97.  If ac97 is working, you have to choose it in kde sound preferences.
[09:55] <hangthedj> as default.
[09:55] <dana> ubuntu: i do understand your error message, this is due to the fact that you are running a live system without some slack working space to do real work, e.g. burning and generating iso cds
[09:55] <hangthedj> its been awhile since i used kde, but thats what i did.
[09:55] <jussi01> hangthedj: in kcontrol?
[09:55] <hangthedj> right.
[09:56] <ubuntu> ok
[09:56] <dana> ubuntu: but why do you not install a full linux then, or in other words what is your base problem that lead you to burn a cd from a livecd ?
[09:56] <Lynoure> ubuntu: you can maybe generate your image on a usb stick, but you still could not burn it as long as there is another disk in your drive!
[09:56] <ubuntu> but i want to gerate the iso to the usb-device
[09:56] <hangthedj> jussi01, last time i used kde though, was right before edgy.
[09:57] <hangthedj> then i tried feisty on my laptop, but with ubuntu everything just worked. so i used it.
[09:57] <ubuntu> yes, here i try to create it on an usb-device
[09:57] <hangthedj> but you can check out what i wrote at http://www.geocities.com/sikofitt.
[09:57] <jussi01> hangthedj: curious, when it gives me the option to select the audio device, it only gives me options to for alsa, oss etc. I suspect an alsa setting is needed
[09:58] <hangthedj> yes.
[09:58] <dana> ubuntu: can you describe your hardware, e.g. number & type of harddisks, cdroms, usb-devices etc. and the machine you are running on ?
[09:58] <hangthedj> i think both are merging soon, could have read it wrong. but, it irritating, because alsa is usually it, but if you want sound in like VMs you need to choose oss.
[09:59] <ubuntu> (there were so mandy problems behind me...)
[09:59] <ubuntu> sure.
[10:00] <hyakuhei> Ok, so I'm at fosdem and I've just been convinced that I should give KDE4 a good try - I don't have any KDE stuff installed at the moment, whats the best way for me to get and install kde4 desktop, I don't particularly want lots of KDE3 stuff on my system that I'm not going to use.
[10:01] <hyakuhei> Most instructions I have seen for installation presume you allready have kubuntu.... whats the best path for me ?
[10:01] <ubuntu> i use a laptop, there is just one cdrom, i have to use this livecd, there is an usb-device about 2 gb
[10:01] <jussi01> hyakuhei: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[10:01] <hyakuhei> lol, Thanks jussi01
[10:01] <jussi01> :)
[10:02] <ubuntu> (any questons, else?? :))
[10:03] <dana> ubuntu: so you want to install the livecd on your udb-device, and do not have a harddisk ?
[10:05] <ubuntu> (@dana no, of course not. i want to delete something of an bootable cd)
[10:05] <ubuntu> (@dana and i tried it under windows with many errors)
[10:10] <ubuntu> ERROR: genisoimage: no space left on device. cannot fwrite 32768*1
[10:10] <ubuntu> any idea
[10:10] <ubuntu> ?
[10:13] <dana> ubuntu: where is the isoimage located, that you want to modify ?
[10:14] <ubuntu> the isoimage is the livecd
[10:17] <ubuntu> I'LL BACK LATER.
[10:22] <dana> ubuntu: well that sounds complicated from within the running livecd, because you have mounted it and it is on a read-only medium!
[10:22] <dam> hi can anyone tell me why I can't install an tk8.5 upgrade ?
[10:23] <dana> ubuntu: near impossible, but maybe you do have the image copied somewhere on harddisk to be able to change it ?
[10:24] <DDuiGG> i have installed all of the xvid packages via adept... tried opening .avi file with Kaffeine, but no video/audio..... any thoughts
[10:26] <jussi01> !avi | DDuiGG
[10:26] <ubotu> DDuiGG: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:26] <DDuiGG> wow thanks
[10:26] <DDuiGG> what player is the most commonly used
[10:27] <DDuiGG> gstreamer?
[10:28] <llutz> DDuiGG: xine (with kaffeine-frontend), vlc, mplayer
[10:28] <Lynoure> DDuiGG: kaffeine, probably, but you might be lacking the codecs?
[10:28] <DDuiGG> thanks for the help... this will get me going i think
[10:29] <dam> hi can anyone tell me why I can't install the tk8.5 upgrade ?
[10:29] <Lynoure> dam: what's the error message you get? before that it's all guesswork...
[10:30] <llutz> dam tk8.5 in gutsy? from what repo?
[10:30] <dam> it says the application adept manager casued by the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[10:32] <DDuiGG> xine plugin did the trick
[10:33] <DDuiGG> too bad im so dependent on MS kubuntu makes me smile
[10:33] <jussi01> :)
[10:37]  * dana says cheerio
[10:38] <SSJ_GZ> !flashissue
[10:38] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[10:39] <RingTailedFox> (in a network where some clients are linux and some windows, server is linux) what are the ways by which i can restrict any pc to boot or login unless its authenticated from the server. and the uptime for each pc or login/logof time is recored too. 2. no other computer can access internet that is not in the server list?
[10:41]  * RingTailedFox feels like no one saw him
[10:42] <SSJ_GZ> Hmmm ... Konqueror + nsplugin has been broken for some time on my Gutsy install: All Flash animations are just grey rectangles, and nsplugin always crashes upon closing the page.  Any idea what's wrong? There don't seem to be any updates available.
[10:42] <Lynoure> RingTailedFox: saw you, just takes time to parse
[10:42] <RingTailedFox> Lynoure k
[10:42] <Lynoure> RingTailedFox: I guess the initial parenthesis made me not note it as a question
[10:42] <jussi01> SSJ_GZ: you have the -updates repo on?
[10:42] <RingTailedFox> :)
[10:42] <jussi01> SSJ_GZ: also, have you tried to reinstall flash ?
[10:43] <dam> I have a problem with the tk8.5 upgrade
[10:43] <SSJ_GZ> jussi01: I'll post my sources.list in a sec.  I've followed the steps suggested in the !flashissue help.
[10:43] <dam> it's giving me an error all the time
[10:44] <SSJ_GZ> jussi01: sources.list - http://pastebin.ca/916119
[10:45] <jussi01> SSJ_GZ: yeah, they are enabled
[10:45] <RingTailedFox> (in a network where some clients are linux and some windows, server is linux) what are the ways by which i can restrict any pc to boot or login unless its authenticated from the server. and the uptime for each pc or login/logof time is recored too. 2. no other computer can access internet that is not in the server list?
[10:45] <SSJ_GZ> jussi01: What is at fault - Flash, or the nsplugin?
[10:45] <SSJ_GZ> konqueror-nsplugins                        4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1
[10:45] <Lynoure> RingTailedFox: sounds like stuff I usually do for money, so just some pointers: ldap, kerberos are commonly used. 2. depends on how safe you'll need it be. Most would probably use mac based firewall, but that's trivial to sidestep. You'd prolly want proper NAC for that
[10:46] <jussi01> SSJ_GZ: tbh, Im not exactly sure. you could try purging and reinstalling the ns plugin
[10:46] <SSJ_GZ> jussi01: Ok, will try that.
[10:48] <RingTailedFox_> Lynoure ldap and kerberos can fully do what i want? and log it too?
[10:49] <SSJ_GZ> jussi01: No joy :(
[10:49] <jussi01> SSJ_GZ: Im sorry, I cant help you anymore :(
[10:50] <SSJ_GZ> jussi01: np - thanks anyway! :)
[10:50] <Lynoure> RingTailedFox_: I hope your pointers get you started. There are so many ways to use those that it's certainly beyond the scope of my support here, sorry.
[10:50] <RingTailedFox_> Lynoure ok
[10:52] <IppatsuMan> aloha
[10:53] <pighunt_> hey ppl..  has anyone had any issues with getting Opera to work on 8.04? as in it installs fine and started but will not browse to any pages?
[10:54] <pighunt_> i have had it browse to maybe 1 or 2 after a very long time
[10:55] <Lynoure> RingTailedFox_: You cannot really stop systems from booting. They'll boot to something, as you need something to interact with a server. Or you could use networkboot, but that has downsides too. (and in any case, if your user gets to fiddle with bios boot settings, that's the end of all this)
[10:55] <RingTailedFox_> Lynoure i can use ldap setup to auth from server. no auth . no login ?
[10:56] <lysli> euh
[10:56] <lysli> je parle lol
[10:56] <Lynoure> RingTailedFox_: That's how it's often done, yeah.
[10:56] <lysli> pour la première fois sur ca
[10:56] <lysli> enfin orc
[10:56] <lysli> :d
[10:56] <lysli> na irc
[10:56] <Lynoure> !fr | lysli
[10:56] <ubotu> lysli: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:57] <Lynoure> RingTailedFox_: it's not like I sent you on a wild goose chase ;)
[10:58] <RingTailedFox_> :)
[11:02] <Marbug> hi, the updater said that there was a new version of amsn, so I installed it, but after the installation I couldn't install the previous version, and it saiuys it conflicts with libc6, but I can't install that neither because it conflicts with tzdata, what should I do? :s
[11:06] <mikiael> yo
[11:07] <jussi01> hi mikiael
[11:07] <mikiael> jussi01: :)
[11:07] <mikiael> non non, je n'ai pas kubuntu, que ce soit bien claire ! xD
[11:08] <jussi01> !fr | mikiael
[11:08] <ubotu> mikiael: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:08] <jussi01> mikiael: English only in here
[11:08] <jussi01> :)
[11:09] <mikiael> jussi01: oh, yeah ^^, i didn't seen the name of the channel, sorry :)
[11:09] <mikiael> oops
[11:09] <mikiael> havn't*
[11:11] <lysli>  /join #kubuntu-fr
[11:11] <lysli> fais comment :'(
[11:11] <jussi01> lysli: take away the space at the start :)
[11:12] <jussi01> !nickspam > musti
[11:12] <lysli> :s
[11:14] <mikiael> lysli: sans espace
[11:15] <mikiael> she won \o/
[11:15] <xxBasYxx> Is it possible to save videos from several USB webcameras connected to one PC with Kubuntu?
[11:15] <jussi01> mikiael: thank you :)
[11:15] <mikiael> :)
[11:16] <mikiael> xxBasYxx: in sad case, you can use a logiciel like xvidcap, but i think a better way exist ^^
[11:19] <tass1412> how to set that i have to double-click to open a folder (or any other object in dolphin)
[11:20] <jussi01> !doubleclick | tass1412
[11:20] <ubotu> tass1412: You can find the mouse-related settings at: KMenu -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[11:21] <tass1412> jussi01, thx :D was looking in the wrong place
[11:21] <jussi01> :)
[11:22] <harmental> hey guys..how can i change the image that appears after the login screen and before my actual wallpaper???
[11:24] <tass1412> how to use "nodeadkeys" ?
[11:31] <ubuntu> hi
[11:31] <iRONSTYLE> hi
[11:32] <mikiael> hi
[11:32] <Sbucatone_> wee
[11:32] <Sbucatone_> xD
[11:32] <mikiael> (it's an idle channel? :) )
[11:32] <iRONSTYLE> im NOOB in Kubuntu... Can someone learn me something? xP
[11:32] <Sbucatone_> wtf
[11:32] <iRONSTYLE> Haha:P
[11:32] <Sbucatone_> :P
[11:32] <iRONSTYLE> it my first time
[11:33] <tass1412> iRONSTYLE, read a lot :D
[11:33] <Sbucatone_> hahahhah
[11:33] <iRONSTYLE> Okay.. About:P?
[11:57] <ubuntu> hi there
[11:57] <Dr_willis> Howdies
[11:58] <ubuntu> i want to mount an usb-device with the bash, maybe i make a mistake
[11:58] <ubuntu> any help, pls
[11:59] <lysli> :-/
[11:59] <lysli>  /join #kubuntu-fr
[12:00] <lysli>  /join #kubuntu-fr
[12:00] <lysli> \#kubuntu-fr
[12:00] <lysli>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:01] <jussi01> mikiael: ^
[12:02] <mikiael> jussi01: ^^
[12:02] <mikiael> jussi01: xD again ^^
[12:03] <lysli> j'ai encore un problème ?
[12:03] <lysli> ah on parle
[12:03] <lysli> ouff
[12:03] <mikiael> jussi01: i'll put that in my quote.txt :D
[12:04] <mikiael> lysli: /join #ubuntu-fr, without space
[12:04] <lysli> mikael je dois taper ca ?
[12:05] <mikiael> lysli: yes !
[12:05] <mikiael> lysli: and speak in english plz :)
[12:06] <lysli> mikael : why ?
[12:06] <mikiael> lysli: because only english is allwed here :)
[12:06] <Dr_willis> No hoblo.
[12:06] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:06] <lysli> mikiiiiial :ok :-/
[12:07] <jpatrick> !en
[12:07] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:07] <erban> ciao
[12:08] <erban> qualcuno parla italiano
[12:08] <jpatrick> !it | erban
[12:08] <ubotu> erban: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:09] <walmik> !aiglx
[12:09] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[12:14] <walmik> hi all... can anybody please help me with a compiz install? it says i shud have aiglx with composite and i dont know how to check that or get that. I m using a amd64 laptop with a nvidia card
[12:15] <Dr_willis> nvidia cards  just need to have the nvidia drivers installed.
[12:16] <walmik> Dr_willis: hi.. does that mean i dont need aiglx?
[12:23] <cafka> hi!! i have broadcom 4311 card and somethimes i get this error Ndiswrapper doesn't support monitor mode. :S  can i fix it???
[12:26] <DDuiGG> wow kubuntu & compiz-fusion is mind blowing... any package recommendations to capture screen video/audio?
[12:30] <jpatrick> DDuiGG: ksnapshot?
[12:37] <aLeSD> hi all
[12:37] <jpatrick> hola aLeSD
[12:37] <aLeSD> how can I change the theme of kde based application in ubuntu
[12:37] <aLeSD> without install kde
[12:37] <aLeSD> ?
[12:37] <aLeSD> jpatrick: hi
[12:38] <DDuiGG> jpatrick does ksnapshot do audio & video capturing?
[12:38] <jpatrick> DDuiGG: no, just screenies
[12:38] <TimS> I am installing using the text based installer on a virtual machine. I want to use the entire disk, should I go "entire disk" or "entire disk and set up LVM"
[12:38] <TimS> What is LVM and do I need it
[12:38] <DDuiGG> trying to get recordmydesktop instaleld
[12:40] <martijn_nerd> hello
[12:40] <martijn_nerd> anyone experience here with ipod+kubuntu ?
[12:41] <martijn_nerd> i am thinking of buying one, but i want to be sure i can use it without hacking the ipod itself
[12:41] <jussi01> !ipod
[12:41] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:50] <RindTailedFox> in a network where some clients are linux and some windows, server is linux, what are the ways by which i can restrict any pc to boot or login unless its authenticated from the server. and the uptime for each pc or login/logof time is recored too. 2. no other computer can access internet that is not in the server list?
[12:51] <martijn_nerd> hey jussi01, why not?
[12:51] <jussi01> martijn_nerd: why not what?
[12:52] <martijn_nerd> why not ipod
[12:52] <martijn_nerd> !ipod
[12:52] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:52] <martijn_nerd> (is ubotu a bot?)
[12:53] <jussi01> yes
[12:53] <jussi01> the !calls the bot
[12:53] <jussi01> !bot > martijn_nerd
[13:16] <mrEiger> hi! i'm loocking kubuntu bootscripts in separate package. is there any?
[13:38] <seaman> test
[13:51] <AnonManc21> why is it firefox doesn't come preinstalled by default?
[13:52] <popo-bobo> hi
[13:52] <popo-bobo> why wifi is such a pain on kubuntu
[13:52] <Unksi> AnonManc21: Kubuntu's default browser is Konqueror, that is part of KDE. Firefox is based on GTK (which is used by gnome)
[13:52] <Unksi> that is probably why
[13:52] <popo-bobo> why o why i have re-configure wifi setting at every reboot ????
[13:53] <AnonManc21> oh
[13:53] <Unksi> popo-bobo: which card/chipset? it works wonders here with Atheros, I just plugged the CD in and it worked out of the box :)
[13:53] <popo-bobo> its intel chip
[13:54] <Unksi> what is the exact model?
[13:54] <Unksi> you can get it with lspci
[13:54] <Unksi> lol wait
[13:54] <Unksi> so it works?
[13:55] <popo-bobo> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[13:55] <swatto> anyone know if there is a program i can get that minimizes windows intot he systray?
[13:56] <popo-bobo> my problem is wifi works but i have reconfigure after every reboot
[13:57] <Unksi> ok
[13:57] <Unksi> and you use gnome?
[13:57] <popo-bobo> and is wpa -psk shared key supported in kubuntu ?
[13:57] <Unksi> d'oh
[13:57] <Unksi> i guess i really should get to bed :D
[13:57] <Unksi> popo-bobo: yes, i use wpa2 myself
[13:58] <Unksi> popo-bobo: have you set the knetworkmanager to save your wlan password?
[13:59] <popo-bobo> yes
[14:00] <popo-bobo> Unksi: where do i enter wpa key ?
[14:00] <popo-bobo> all options i get are regarding wep
[14:00] <Unksi> popo-bobo: do you have that little icon in your system tray?
[14:01] <Unksi> it looks a little like there is some small device that has a cable in the other end
[14:01] <IppatsuMan> swatto: try kdocker or alltray
[14:01] <eddy-san> hi... can i become a documtent .odt of open office to .doc of microsoft office.
[14:01] <Unksi> or was it an ethernet connector, but something like that anyway
[14:01] <eddy-san> ?
[14:02] <Unksi> popo-bobo: right click that icon, do you get a list of wireless networks?
[14:04] <RindTailedFox> in a network where some clients are linux and some windows, server is linux, what are the ways by which i can restrict any pc to boot or login unless its authenticated from the server. and the uptime for each pc or login/logof time is recored too. in such a way that i can count for how much time the pc was loged in and used for the whole month. 2. no other computer can access internet that is not in the server list?
[14:06] <DexterF> hi
[14:07] <DexterF> according to the ntfs-3g man page "silent" prevents the driver bitching about not permitted chmod ops and such. I put that option in the fstab line, unmounted, mounted, still get errors
[14:07] <DexterF> pointers?
[14:09] <popo-bobo> Unksi: i dont get a list of networks when right click on cable icon
[14:09] <popo-bobo> but in wifi-radar yes
[14:19] <walmik> hi.. how can i find out if beryl is installed on my system?
[14:20] <jpatrick> !beryl | walmik
[14:20] <ubotu> walmik: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[14:20] <jpatrick> !compiz > walmik
[14:21] <walmik> jpatrick: thnks.. i have installed compiz... i just dont know if its compiz fusion or not
[14:21] <max_> hi
[14:21] <max_> I have a problem with adept manager
[14:22] <max_> I need to install gcc but adept manager don 't install this package
[14:22] <LjL> max_, try with apt-get, might be easier to troubleshoot. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:24] <max_> the error is: there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages....
[14:24] <max_> apt-get in the command line?
[14:27] <knowbot> how do i open in comandline a folder?
[14:28] <max_> go in system and click konsol
[14:29] <knowbot> done
[14:29] <max_> I need to go root mode in the console
[14:29] <max_> what is the command?
[14:29] <Ketobi> sudo su @ max_
[14:29] <max_> thanks
[14:30] <antoine> hi
[14:31] <jpatrick> max_: sudo -s !!!
[14:31] <jpatrick> Ketobi: ^^
[14:31] <Ketobi> ?
[14:31] <jpatrick> never do sudo su
[14:31] <Ketobi> why not? works for me
[14:32] <max_> it works for me
[14:32] <max_> why not?
[14:32] <jpatrick> !wfm | Ketobi
[14:32] <ubotu> Ketobi: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[14:32] <jpatrick> !noroot | Ketobi
[14:32] <ubotu> Ketobi: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[14:32] <jpatrick> !sudo
[14:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:32] <knowbot> how do i open a risticted folder like: /usr/share/vlc/http in sudo
[14:32] <max_> I need it, it's ok for me
[14:33] <Ketobi> good to know jpatrick but it desn't answer our question
[14:34] <jpatrick> Ketobi: su doesn't use your evn variables, or something like that
[14:35] <Ketobi> ahh ok thank you
[14:35] <knowbot> does annybuddy know how to open a folder in super privaliages
[14:36] <jpatrick> Ketobi: and can messed up permissions with your config file
[14:36] <jpatrick> knowbot: sudo -s and cd there
[14:36] <knowbot> tanx, going to try
[14:39] <max_> I have a problem with KDevelop.... do not compile hello world program... it says Exited with status : 77   error : C++ compiler cannot create executables
[14:40] <aleksanteri> max_, sudo apt-get install g++
[14:40] <max_> mmm ok , I will try it
[14:41] <jpatrick> !b-e | max_
[14:41] <ubotu> max_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[14:42] <knowbot> jpatrick: can i do the same in x or open a x windo in the terminal
[14:42] <jpatrick> knowbot: kdesudo konqueror
[14:42] <gundam_rx78nt1_> can somebody help?  I did the last update and ran into problems.  I had to remove the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic packages which removed my restricted drivers package also.
[14:43] <gundam_rx78nt1_> I have installed the packages back but my audio and wirless will not work.
[14:43] <Dr_willis> Other then reruning the restircted-manager tool and let it reinstall them.. Not sure what to tell ya.
[14:44] <gundam_rx78nt1_> Dr_willis, I have already done that.
[14:45] <gundam_rx78nt1_> I can't even find the ipw3945.ko file to modprobe it so I can activate the wireless.
[14:46] <max_> thanks a lot people ! NOW IT WORKS... my first program in Kubuntu Kdevelop suite...
[14:46] <Dr_willis> In theory if there was a new kernel update that broke things.. the old kernel entries in the grub menu should still work
[14:46] <Ketobi> great! congratulations
[14:48] <swatto> is it necessary to have a firewall/antivirus installed on kubuntu?
[14:50] <emilsedgh> swatto: not really
[14:50] <emilsedgh> !virus | swatto
[14:50] <ubotu> swatto: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[14:52] <jussi01> !firewall | swatto
[14:52] <ubotu> swatto: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[14:54] <knowbot> jpatrick: tanx it workt
[14:56] <numeral> wenas !!!
[14:56] <swatto> thanks all
[14:57] <swatto> if i have a router i dont really need a firewall though?
[14:57] <RingTailedFox>  i heard some alternatives are not free but their source is. you have to compile it to use. true?
[14:58] <jussi01> swatto: always a good idea, and its built in anyway
[15:00] <swatto> ill get guarddog to configure it - cause im quite new to linux but learning new things everyday :P
[15:02] <BluesKaj> howdy all :-)
[15:09] <Ketobi> thanks emilsedgh for the link ( http://librenix.com/?inode=21 ) that is something i ever wanted to know
[15:09] <emilsedgh> Ketobi: so have fun with Kubuntu GNU/Linux ;)
[15:10] <Ketobi> i have :)
[15:16] <PolitikerALT> Is there a mirror server for kubuntu because the standard server seems to have blocked me :-(
[15:19] <BluesKaj> PolitikerALT, pls explain kubuntu server
[15:20] <PolitikerALT> the server where I get the kubuntu packages from, e. g. pl.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:20] <Ketobi> he's talking about a download server for the kubuntu CD
[15:20] <PolitikerALT> no
[15:20] <Ketobi> ahh k
[15:21] <PolitikerALT> about the package server
[15:22] <PolitikerALT>  - connect (111 Connection refused)
[15:22] <BluesKaj> ahh PolitikerALT your source repositories /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:22] <user5> hi
[15:22] <PolitikerALT> ok, but please don't complain that I have gutsy and hardy servers in it - i know, but I need some hardy applications like OpenOffice 2.3.1
[15:23] <user5> somebody a programa for encoder video in mp4 ?
[15:23] <PolitikerALT> http://pastebin.com/d27329904
[15:24] <user5> or other tipe video clip?
[15:24] <user5> I using kine
[15:25] <gundam_rx78nt1_> can somebody help?  I did the last update and ran into problems.  I had to remove the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic packages which removed my restricted drivers package also.
[15:26] <gundam_rx78nt1_> I have installed the packages back but my audio and wirless will not work.
[15:26] <gundam_rx78nt1_> I can't even find the ipw3945.ko file to modprobe it so I can activate the wireless.
[15:31] <fungos> is there any known problem with hitachi notebook harddisk with linux?
[15:31] <gundam_rx78nt1_> fungos: what model?
[15:32] <gundam_rx78nt1_> it's a sata drive correct?
[15:32] <fungos> yes, its sata
[15:32] <fungos> let me get the correct model
[15:35] <gundam_rx78nt1_> fungos: was this the error: "No Drives Found: An error has occurred. No valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem"?
[15:36] <fungos> gundam_rx78nt1_: no, its weird, because sometimes it works, sometimes it just freeze.
[15:37] <fungos> gundam_rx78nt1_: and when it freezes it doesnt show any message
[15:37] <gundam_rx78nt1_> that sounds more like a hardware issue.
[15:37] <gundam_rx78nt1_> I had that problem with an hitachi 120GB drive and had it exchanged.
[15:38] <gundam_rx78nt1_> Haven't had any problems since then.
[15:39] <fungos> gundam_rx78nt1_: the problem is when booting to windows it never freezes. its something with linux
[15:39] <fungos> gundam_rx78nt1_: The model is Hitachi HTS541612J9SA00
[15:41] <Daisuke-Ido> you're dual booting or just using linux?
[15:41] <fungos> dual booting
[15:41] <BluesKaj> PolitikerALT, you have several repositories commented that may be useful , as far your inability to connect to them is not clear , but you srill ahve the cdrom deb as listed as a source , that could be part of the problem , comment that line out with a # in front.
[15:42] <BluesKaj> err comment that line rather
[15:46] <fungos> i think this is AHCI related problem, what are the kernel options that I can try to disable it?
[15:48] <Arwen> you can't disable AHCI at the OS level
[15:48] <Arwen> you need to turn it off in the BIOS
[15:49] <ForgeAus> hey arwen do you know if you can run linux binaries in OSX (the same way as in older FreeBSDs)?
[15:49] <fungos> I will try to find it
[15:49] <Arwen> ForgeAus, they need to be recompiled
[15:49] <ForgeAus> yeah but source isn't binaries is it?
[15:50] <ForgeAus> I know the ELF thingy vs Mach-O
[15:50] <Daisuke-Ido> ForgeAus: Fink
[15:50] <ForgeAus> but isn't that what FreeBSD did, just add ELF?
[15:50] <ForgeAus> fink is basically redhat for OSX right?
[15:50] <ForgeAus> RPM + some packages?
[15:50] <Arwen> "In computing, the Fink project is an effort to port Unix programs to Mac OS X. Fink uses dpkg and APT (Debian's package management system), as well as its own frontend program, fink (which is implemented as a set of Perl modules). It is maintained by a community of contributors."
[15:50] <Arwen> still recompiling
[15:50] <ForgeAus> I'd rather macports.org
[15:51] <ForgeAus> oh its debian! interesting
[15:51] <ForgeAus> dpkg/apt-get for mac! hmmm not as bad as I thought
[15:51] <ForgeAus> (I thought it was rpm instead)
[15:52] <Arwen> note that this is not the same as running Linux binaries in OS X
[15:52] <ForgeAus> Macports is like BSD ports (tarballs I thinkt hey're source tho???)
[15:52] <Daisuke-Ido> no, it isn't, but that seems to be the best easy option
[15:52] <ForgeAus> yes Arwen they're linux source recompiled for OSX
[15:52] <ForgeAus> and packaged
[15:53] <Arwen> yes... I already know that (/me refuses to use the proprietary bag of garbage known as Apple)
[15:53] <user5> samebody halp me in encoder video in kubuntu?
[15:53] <Arwen> !en | user5
[15:53] <ubotu> user5: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:53] <ForgeAus> hehe I don't use it either
[15:53] <ForgeAus> I was just trying to help someone out
[15:53] <user5> using kino but only encoding in fmpg
[15:53] <Freewith> Hi. My system makes a system bell sound 5 or 6 times everytime I get to the logon screen or issue a shutdown. Anyone know what's wrong?
[15:53] <ForgeAus> and it would have been alot easier to use linux binaries with their OSX
[15:54] <BluesKaj> user5, what kind of video
[15:54] <user5> ok tk
[15:54] <ForgeAus> of course theres also the x86 vs ppc issue
[15:54] <user5> from flv to mp4
[15:54] <ForgeAus> but theres still lots of linux PPC binaries even if it is a PPC mac
[15:54] <user5> but I encode in ffmpg
[15:55] <user5> only this format
[15:55] <user5> with kino
[15:55] <user5> in kubuntu
[15:55] <BluesKaj> not familiar with kino, user5
[15:55] <user5> ok,
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg ?
[15:55] <user5> other packet?
[15:56] <user5> yes in ffmpeg yes
[15:56] <Arwen> !enter | user5
[15:56] <ubotu> user5: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:56] <fungos> this Acer notebook doesnt have AHCI option on bios .. :S
[15:56] <BluesKaj> user5, I use ffmpeg, mencoder and tovid ...so, what's the problem in ffmpeg?
[15:56] <Arwen> go complain to the manufactuere :S
[15:56] <user5> tk u
[15:57] <Arwen> user5, #ffmpeg may be more helpful
[15:57] <fungos> Arwen: yeah :(
[15:57] <user5> for cellular
[15:57]  * Arwen could try and debug encoding-related issues, but this isn't the place for it
[15:57] <user5> n95
[15:58] <BluesKaj> no experience with cellular either
[15:58] <user5> ok
[15:58] <user5> tk u
[15:59] <user5> very gentleman
[15:59] <user5> I call from italy
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !it | user5
[15:59] <ubotu> user5: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:59] <user5> thanks all here
[16:00] <user5> I use bethuin
[16:00] <user5> n.p.
[16:01] <user5> also in ubuntu-it
[16:06] <mindoverflow> boot up problem, anybody could help ??
[16:06] <a_posse_ad_esse> what is the problem mindoverflow?
[16:07] <mindoverflow> thanks
[16:07] <mindoverflow> well, i cant boot even the live cd
[16:07] <mindoverflow> i guess it's due to the hard disks
[16:07] <mindoverflow> cuz i have 2
[16:07] <mindoverflow> as i unplug one of'em
[16:07] <Daisuke-Ido> mindoverflow: did you change the boot order in the bios?
[16:07] <mindoverflow> it boots fine
[16:07] <mindoverflow> i even installed it
[16:08] <mindoverflow> but when i replug it the problem reappear
[16:08] <mindoverflow> it ends at the busybox
[16:08] <a_posse_ad_esse> what about the jumper settings?
[16:08] <mindoverflow> with modprobe abnormal exit
[16:08] <mindoverflow> yes, the boot loader runs
[16:08] <mindoverflow> i get the menus and all
[16:08] <mindoverflow> when it starts initiating that the problem happens
[16:09] <mindoverflow> the one i unplugged is set to be master
[16:09] <mindoverflow> the second is slave
[16:09] <mindoverflow> both on primary
[16:09] <mindoverflow> actually it's installed on the slave
[16:09] <mindoverflow> and now i'm connecting from it
[16:10] <a_posse_ad_esse> from my experience, installing on the slave is generally not a good idea
[16:11] <a_posse_ad_esse> if it were me, I would put the "good" disk in the master slot and have the other in the slave position
[16:11] <a_posse_ad_esse> I assume you aren't going to RAID them
[16:12] <a_posse_ad_esse> comment out the fstab entry for the slave so you could then make the necessary changes to the disk
[16:13] <a_posse_ad_esse> like "shred" or whatever to zero out any potential problems, put the filesystem back on, and be good to go
[16:15] <a_posse_ad_esse> I'm also having an issue with running a command via ssh... the program being run needs to use rsync (ssh) to create a connection back to the original client machine, and it creates a hostkey error... any ideas why this might happen or a workaround?
[16:20] <jinzougen> So I told adept to update all my packages yesterday and it blew up. Now when I start adept it says another process is using the package database. When I tell it to resolve the problem it crashes. Could a lockfile have not gotten deleted when it blew up? Can I remove it manually?
[16:20] <a_posse_ad_esse> yes, you can safely remove the lockfile through the terminal
[16:20] <jinzougen> where is it?
[16:21] <a_posse_ad_esse> oh, it doesn't say something about waiting for a lockfile?
[16:21] <martijn81> !aptfix | jinzougen
[16:21] <ubotu> jinzougen: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:21] <a_posse_ad_esse> agreed
[16:21] <jinzougen> It says "Another process is using the packaging system"
[16:23] <a_posse_ad_esse> I would say that the easiest way to remedy the problem would be to reboot and then run the command given by ubotu
[16:23] <jinzougen> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock # returns nothing.
[16:23] <a_posse_ad_esse> what about the dpkg --configure -a?
[16:24] <a_posse_ad_esse> or is the zombie process still present?
[16:24] <jinzougen> I'm running the configure script...
[16:24] <jinzougen> or program...
[16:24] <a_posse_ad_esse> if dpkg is running, then it is picking up where apt left off
[16:25] <jinzougen> alright cool, it works now.
[16:25] <a_posse_ad_esse> good to hear
[16:25] <jinzougen> Oh I have another random question. :)
[16:26] <a_posse_ad_esse> k
[16:26] <jinzougen> Is it possible to have the root password be different from mine, yet retain sudo access?
[16:26] <a_posse_ad_esse> yes
[16:26] <jinzougen> I tried changing the root password but sudo behaves strangely when I do.
[16:27] <jinzougen> Specifically, when it asks for a password, it prints what I type! and doesn't work.
[16:27] <a_posse_ad_esse> what command are you running?
[16:27] <jinzougen> Oh, maybe more importantly, Is it possible to have the root account enabled, and have the password be different, and have sudo access.
[16:27] <jinzougen> Just something like `sudo ls`
[16:28] <jinzougen> I like to be able to use both su and sudo
[16:29] <a_posse_ad_esse> honestly, I don't know what to tell you there.  I've always just used "sudo" in Ubuntu...  Quite an adjustment from Gentoo, but it works just as well IMHO
[16:30] <jpatrick> !noroow | jinzougen
[16:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noroow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:30] <jpatrick> !noroot | jinzougen
[16:30] <ubotu> jinzougen: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[16:30] <stdin> jinzougen: it's possible but unsupported, and I can't think of a reason you'd need su
[16:30] <jinzougen> Well sometimes I'll do a few things as root, and it's annoying to type sudo before each one.
[16:30] <jpatrick> jinzougen: sudo -s
[16:30] <hydrogen> sudo -i
[16:30] <stdin> jinzougen: sudo -i
[16:31] <stdin> -i wins, 2/1
[16:31] <hydrogen> jpatrick is overruled
[16:31] <hydrogen> that is all
[16:31] <a_posse_ad_esse> I think of it as an insurance policy... makes me think about what I am trying to do
[16:31] <jpatrick> -s has more security and runs only for 15mins (or something like that)
[16:31] <hydrogen> I also think the security difference between having root and not having root is a bit exagerted
[16:31] <hydrogen> but meh
[16:31] <jinzougen> oh?
[16:32] <hydrogen> no
[16:32] <stdin> -i just runs the shall, -i runs the shell as a login shell
[16:32] <a_posse_ad_esse> sorry to spam, but for those who have just joined: I'm also having an issue with running a command via ssh... the program being run needs to use rsync (ssh) to create a connection back to the original client machine, and it creates a hostkey error... any ideas why this might happen or a workaround?
[16:32] <stdin> erm, replace the 2nd -i with -s
[16:32] <hydrogen> no
[16:32] <hydrogen> swap it around
[16:32] <hydrogen> the first -i
[16:32] <stdin> yeah :p
[16:32] <hydrogen> -i resets the env, -s just gives you a root shell on top of the current env
[16:33] <stdin> I tend to use "sudo -H -i" when I wan a "root shell" anyway, makes sure $HOME is right
[16:33] <jinzougen> wait a sec... I just changed the root password. But the password that sudo wants is my password...
[16:33] <jinzougen> This seems counterintuitive to me.
[16:34] <jinzougen> What's the point of having a root password if mine suffices?
[16:34] <stdin> why, sudo always uses your password, thats' the point
[16:34] <root_________> `su` uses roots password
[16:34] <stdin> jinzougen: exactly, there is no point ;)
[16:34] <rjune> why would you add a root password?
[16:34] <root_________> sudo is a way to configure limited amounts of access to the user
[16:34] <root_________> using sudo as a free ticket to root does not add any security
[16:34] <root_________> unless you like to set passwords like `1234` and run ssh
[16:35] <jinzougen> It's just always been the case that there is a _different_ root password afaik.
[16:35] <LjL> root_________: no but it encourages good habits
[16:35] <LjL> root_________: such as not staying root all the time
[16:35] <root_________> LjL: how? it encourages the user to use "sudo" any time they get told they don't have enough priveledges otherwise
[16:35] <stdin> there has never been a default root pass in k/ubuntu
[16:35] <root_________> that doesn't teach them the difference
[16:35] <root_________> if I awnted to write a rootkit
[16:36] <a_posse_ad_esse> sudo also allows a real administrator to cut off access to users
[16:36] <jinzougen> how?
[16:36] <root_________> all I'd have to do was say [[ $UID -ne 0 ]] && echo "You don't have enough priviledges, please run with sudo"
[16:36] <root_________> and the security benefit is gone
[16:36] <root_________> as people will blindly go "okay!"
[16:36] <a_posse_ad_esse> I speak of a business setting
[16:36] <root_____> lenguaje
[16:37] <jinzougen> So, do you need to be part of a certain group for sudo to work?
[16:37] <stdin> you can give people access to specific root-only commands or commands that need to be ran as a certain user, that's when sudo comes into it's own
[16:37] <root_________> right
[16:37] <root_________> thats what I said
[16:37] <jinzougen> I come from FreeBSD, you need to be in group 'wheel' to use su there.
[16:37] <root_____> hola
[16:38] <root_________> "using sudo as a free ticket to root does not add any security"
[16:38] <jinzougen> Which group do you need to be in for sudo to work?
[16:38] <root_________> admin I think?
[16:38] <a_posse_ad_esse> that sounds right
[16:38] <root_________> yep
[16:38] <root_________> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[16:38] <jinzougen> and people can't add the 'admin' group to themselves right?
[16:38] <root_________> nope
[16:38] <jpatrick> !es
[16:38] <stdin> you need to be in "admin" to gain root access with sudo, but any user can _use_ sudo
[16:39] <root_________> any user with a rule in the sudoers file
[16:39] <root_________> that is
[16:39] <jinzougen> jpatrick says yes, root_____  says no..?
[16:39] <jpatrick> jinzougen: ?
 and people can't add the 'admin' group to themselves right?
 nope
 !es
[16:39] <jinzougen> I assumed the ! was a typo for 'y'
[16:40] <jpatrick> jinzougen: that's the spanish trigger for ubotu
[16:40] <stdin> !bot | ! are triggers for ubotu
[16:40] <ubotu> ! are triggers for ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:40] <jinzougen> oh then :)
[16:40] <a_posse_ad_esse> spiffy
[16:40] <jinzougen> ok.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> root_________, or whoever you are stop this sillt underscore on yer nick , it's annoying
[16:40] <prince_jammys> root_________________________________________________: right, and when your rootkit came out with that message, i would think twice about what i'm running
[16:40] <jinzougen> So if I change the root password, will I ever need it?
[16:40] <jinzougen> I can just use sudo -i to gain access...
[16:40] <jinzougen> right?
[16:41] <a_posse_ad_esse> you should not need the root password
[16:41] <jpatrick> jinzougen: yes
[16:41] <stdin> the only case the root passwords need to be set is to login as the actual root user
[16:41] <BluesKaj> !root
[16:41] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:42] <a_posse_ad_esse> yay Matrix reference!
[16:42] <prince_jammys> also try "sudo echo $UID"
[16:42] <jinzougen> interesting.
[16:42] <stdin> the shell will intercept $UID before sudo
[16:42] <jinzougen> This is a foreign concept from FreeBSD for me.
[16:43] <a_posse_ad_esse> one last shot at the ssh hostkey issue:
[16:43] <a_posse_ad_esse>  I'm also having an issue with running a command via ssh... the program being run needs to use rsync (ssh) to create a connection back to the original client machine, and it creates a hostkey error... any ideas why this might happen or a workaround?
[16:43] <prince_jammys> i see, "sudo id" shows it
[16:46] <jinzougen> Well thanks guys you were helpful.
[16:46] <jinzougen> peace.
[16:47] <benjamin> salut
[16:48] <benjamin> salut
[16:49] <a_posse_ad_esse> Alright, back to the thesis.  Have a good day, all.
[16:50] <hola> im not able to configure my webcam
[16:50] <Haskear> Hi all, I'm using 7.10 and it seems that Firefox is locking up quite often! Is it just me or is it a known issue atm? ty
[16:51] <Sbucatone_> Haskear: mm try firefox 3.0 or use konqueror
[16:51] <prince_jammys> yay
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Sbucatone_, that' not helpful
[16:52] <Haskear> cheers Sbucatone_ is it an known issue though?
[16:52] <jinzougen> more questions! I noticed that apt-get can install packaes which don't show up in adept, why?
[16:52] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: well...keep firefox in that way then ...
[16:52] <BluesKaj> FF3 is still buggy
[16:52] <prince_jammys> Haskear: i see a lot of people having trouble with firefox, yes
[16:53] <Haskear> ok! cheers prince_jammys
[16:53] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: well it has less problem than firefox...on gutsy for me...
[16:53] <jinzougen> Also, I want the put jdk on kubuntu, which distro should I use?
[16:53] <jinzougen> Is there a package?
[16:53] <prince_jammys> !java
[16:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:53] <Sbucatone_> Haskear: use konqueror...it's nice :)
[16:53] <BluesKaj> I used FF3 for a week and it kept hanging and unresponsive at times
[16:53] <prince_jammys> mmm maybe that's not it
[16:54] <MagiSu> Hello, I need some help while using KDevelop 3.5.1.
[16:54] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: for me and other is better firefox3...of couse i have installed adobe plug in...
[16:55] <MagiSu> I have a hand-written project, with multi subdirectory, I do not know how to put the files in the subdirectory without linking them to the project/src. Could anyone please give me some help?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Haskear, did you recently upgrade kde ?
[16:55] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: anyway i use konqueror :) and youtube-dl that what i need and of couse flvget
[16:57] <BluesKaj> konqueror in kde 3.5.9 is broken on my setup, it consumes 90% of my cpu at idle
[16:58] <Sbucatone_> omg i use stable version.
[16:58] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: unsupported is unsupported software...
[16:59] <jinzougen> What are the benefits/drawbacks to installing icedtea vs. sun java?
[17:00] <sigma_1234> i rate sun java is more stable
[17:00] <hola> 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. is not recognize.../dev/video is not created
[17:01] <Sbucatone_> hola: what are you trying to do ? dv vido cam ?
[17:01] <Sbucatone_> *video
[17:01] <hola> Sbucatone_: i would like that the system recognize the cam in order to use that with amsn camorama etc
[17:02] <BluesKaj> Sbucatone_, kde 3.5.9 is supported software , it's an upgrde and it's in the repos.
[17:03] <ForgeAus> good to know theres still 3.5.x development going on
[17:03] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: i think no...because i have only official repo turned on
[17:03] <ForgeAus> I like that system ...
[17:04] <ForgeAus> but I do believe kde4 will come into its own at some stage, its still early days yet
[17:05] <RingTailedFox>  i used g4l, ghost 4 linux to restore my backup image. i did that before too , went fine. but this time it gets stuck on ' checking file system' what can be wrong?
[17:06] <tass1412> where are the text-files for wallpapers and other settings?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Sbucatone_, I'll let this site speak for itself : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-359.php
[17:08] <gfa> ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: i install only when it appear on my desk update notice, if not i leave that stuff where is . infact i have not problem...
[17:09] <jinzougen> my /usr/lib/jvm directory has java-6-sun and java-6-sun-1.6.0.03, which do I put at the top of /etc/jvm?
[17:09] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: anyway i think one can do what he want
[17:09] <BluesKaj> Sbucatone_, then don't make blanket stattements about unsupported applicayions
[17:10] <PhilRod> hi, I'm on kde 3.5.8 on kubuntu 7.10, and whenever I go to a page with flash in konqueror, I get an nspluginviewer crash dialog. Any suggestions for what I could try? (update to 3.5.9? update some flash package?)
[17:10] <jinzougen> probably the one output by update-java-alternatives -l ...
[17:10] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: i think is better...use default software...only that
[17:10] <PhilRod> flash appears to work fine in firefox, so I guess it's an nspluginviewer, rather than the flash plugin
[17:10] <NOBODYs> is there any means of writing/creating a vcd/dvd movie which can play only in linux or vcd/dvd player but not in windows
[17:11] <BluesKaj> PhilRod, 3.5.9 is buggy as well , nspluinviewer does the same
[17:11] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: if you update in some way and then you have problem you cut off a lots of software, example your konqueror
[17:12] <BluesKaj> Sbucatone_, did you look at the site, it includes the address to an official repository
[17:13] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: i will not update , that stuff... i will use only offical repository . i don't want cut off my software with that update.
[17:14] <Sbucatone_> BluesKaj: you said your konqueror is buggy in 3.5.9 xD i want keep my konqueror
[17:14] <Sbucatone_> becuase i think is better than firefox.
[17:15] <Sbucatone_> anyway i don't want talk about that,
[17:15] <RingTailedFox> i used g4l, ghost 4 linux to restore my backup image. i did that before too , went fine. but this time it gets stuck on ' checking file system' what can be wrong?
[17:15] <PhilRod> BluesKaj: thanks for the info
[17:16] <PhilRod> hrm, that's rather annoying
[17:16] <NOBODYs> is there any means of writing/creating a vcd/dvd movie which can play only in linux or vcd/dvd player but not in windows?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> PhilRod, yes and it's hard to pin down what is causing the problems , I thought it was my upgrade to kde 3.5.9 , but now 3.5.8 is having similar problems with konq
[17:17] <Sbucatone_> NOBODYs: i think there is no meaning, what have you used to do that stuff ?
[17:18] <NOBODYs> ##linux
[17:19] <NOBODYs> Sbucatone_ so that nobody copies it easily
[17:19] <Sbucatone_> which software ?
[17:19] <NOBODYs> not a software but a movie
[17:20] <PhilRod> BluesKaj: does the flash player actually work for you in konqueror? It doesn't seem to work correctly here anyway
[17:21] <Sbucatone_> NOBODYs: i have not clear  what is your problem you have a movie and in linux is playble and win no ?
[17:22] <Sbucatone_> PhilRod: on my desktop works great
[17:22] <ICM> Bleargh, I can't find out how to figure out what wireless card I have in my KUbuntu box (freshly installed). doing 'lsmod' just simply says 'airo' (I know it's a Cisco Aironet Wireless-B card of some sort...)
[17:22] <ICM> Is there any exactly way to go about finding what it is without opening the computer up?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> PhilRod, I had it working with the older flash version and before I realized an upgrade did my konq/flash in , so i've been using FF since then for flash sites
[17:24] <NOBODYs> Sbucatone_,not like that.
[17:24] <PhilRod> Sbucatone_: 3.5.8?
[17:24] <Sbucatone_> PhilRod: right
[17:24] <NOBODYs> Sbucatone_,i want a movie that can be played in dvd/vcd but cannot be copied or playable on a windows
[17:24] <BluesKaj> PhilRod, I've had to dump konq totally since 3.5.9 upgrade due that problem with nspluinviewer that you mentioned earlier
[17:25] <PhilRod> BluesKaj: hrm, this could do with some investigation
[17:25] <hola> 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. is not recognize.../dev/video is not created
[17:25] <PhilRod> I'd really like to have flash working in konqueror
[17:25] <Sbucatone_> NOBODYs: mm  i think is a bit impossible
[17:25] <BluesKaj> !flashissues
[17:25] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[17:26] <BluesKaj> PhilRod, that cli command didn't work for me , BTW
[17:26] <wimpies> My firefox produces GNOME dialog boxes (for file open etc.)  How can I force it to use KDE boxes ?
[17:26] <PhilRod> any way of telling when that bot text was updated?
[17:26] <Cherub23> kann mir jemand sagen wie ich bei kubuntu meine auflösung ändern kann ich kann momentan nur bis 1024X768 hoch gehen und jetzt weiss ich nicht wie ich die grundeinstellung was meine grafikarte bzw treiber umstellen
[17:26] <Cherub23> kann
[17:26] <Sbucatone_> Cherub23: we are in english channel
[17:27] <BluesKaj> PhilRod, a couple of weeks ago
[17:27] <Cherub23> oh sorry
[17:27] <NOBODYs> Sbucatone_ thank y
[17:27] <NOBODYs> Sbucatone_ thank u*
[17:27] <BluesKaj> !de | Cherub23
[17:27] <ubotu> Cherub23: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:31] <ICM> I have a Cisco Aironet 350 Series (I *think*)... how do I install drivers for it?- The KUbuntu 7.10 box on which I intend to install the drivers isn't hooked up to the internet (and the onyl way to do so is via the wireless card)
[17:31] <Thecks> Hardy is now in alpha version 5 - anybody know when the final is due to be released?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> April
[17:32] <Sbucatone_> Thecks: 23-24 april
[17:32] <Daisuke-Ido> well, sometime after the betas and the release candidates...
[17:36] <compi> Hi guys, how do i set my resulotion to 1024x786 in kubuntu.. it does not want to set higher than 640x480 in system settings
[17:37] <Thecks> Has anybody tried Hardy? Does it seem pretty stable?
[17:38] <Sbucatone_> Thecks: i have tried hardy on live... i have had no problem :) i have solved some old problem hahehehe
[17:38] <martijn81> Thecks: stable enough here
[17:39] <martijn81> compi: you might wanna try sudo dpkg reconfigure-xserver-xorg
[17:39] <Thecks> Downloading :)
[17:40] <martijn81> yeah, the http download was really slow yesterday
[17:41] <martijn81> the bittorrent download is going well though, although the frontpage of kubuntu.org isn't even updates yet
[17:41] <fungos> how can I stop the kernel at boot time to use ahci kernel module? its not on /etc/modules neither /etc/modprobe.d/*
[17:41] <rodolfo> Hola Ubuntu en español?
[17:41] <Thecks> Anybody tried GoodOS?
[17:41] <martijn81> nope
[17:41] <jpatrick> !es | rodolfo
[17:41] <ubotu> rodolfo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:41] <Sbucatone_> !spanish | rodolfo
[17:42] <compi> martijn81... i get an error when trying that... something -r -t
[17:43] <martijn81> compi: and this one?? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:44] <ICM> And now for the death question: Linux and a wireless card. It's a Cisco AIR-PCI350 Series card, and I know I've gotten it to work in Linux (KUbuntu, I believe) before...
[17:44] <ICM> Can somebody please assist me in trying to get this set up?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> compi, have you checked your graphics & monitor drivers in system settings/monitor&display
[17:50] <alfonso> alguien de este canal habla español
[17:50] <jpatrick> !es | alfonso
[17:50] <ubotu> alfonso: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:50] <alfonso> gracias
[17:55] <compi> BlueKaj... tried that and the max setting is 640x480
[17:56] <BluesKaj> compi, which graphics card & monitor ?
[17:56] <miladen> Divx webplayer... is that impossible for linux?
[17:56] <fungos> why livecd boots ok and installed gave problem with ahci?
[17:56] <BluesKaj> miladen, vlc and mplayer should play divx
[17:57] <miladen> webplayer, in browser...
[17:57] <Grox> got a weird problem, some program is playing a song in my mp3 folder, but i dont know which one
[17:57] <miladen> but divx homepage says for windows
[17:57] <Arwen> miladen, why would you want your web browser to be a mdedia player?
[17:57] <Grox> i mean which program
[17:57] <miladen> http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/webplayer/
[17:57] <compi> bluekaj.........Laptop LCD and onboard intel graphics card
[17:57] <miladen> Arwen stage6.com
[17:57] <Arwen> and last time I checked, mplayer-plugin can do that (doesn't mean it should, but...)
[17:57] <Arwen> miladen, um.... feed the URLs into a media player
[17:57] <BluesKaj> xine plugin
[17:58] <miladen> they are regular urls not urls to movie files
[17:58] <Arwen> miladen, go read the page source
[17:58] <Arwen> find the ".divx
[17:58] <Arwen> ".divx" file
[17:58] <Grox> got a weird problem, some program is playing a song in my mp3 folder, but i dont know which program
[17:58] <Grox> i tried ps -e to look for amarok
[17:58] <Grox> but nope
[17:59] <BluesKaj> miladen, which browser ? .. type about:plgins inthe adressbar for the xine plugin for your browser
[17:59] <BluesKaj> oops about:plugins
[17:59] <miladen> Arwen my kaffeine player cant play .divx
[18:00] <Arwen> um.... ".divx" == AVI
[18:01] <chandolu> spircht man hier deutsch :)
[18:01] <jussi01> !de | chandolu
[18:01] <ubotu> chandolu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:01] <miladen> xine cant run the divx file BluesKaj
[18:02] <Arwen> miladen, um... that's a good thing, seeing as how DIVX is not an executable format.
[18:02] <Arwen> Or are you trying to crash your system?
[18:02] <miladen> so what do i do?
[18:03] <Arwen> miladen, go back to using Windows? Or take the time to learn about what you're talking about?
[18:03] <miladen> grow up Arwen
[18:03] <miladen> loser
[18:03] <martijn81> i crashed my kicker, how do i get it back?
[18:03] <Arwen> miladen, that was real mature.
[18:03] <compi> thanks guys... came right.....
[18:05] <BluesKaj> miladen .' about:config ' in the browser addressbar ...do you have the xine-plugin installed and enabled?
[18:11] <MrJigsaw> ive installed winxp on another partitation now, but my grub loader is gone, how do is start kubuntu now ?
[18:12] <ForgeAus> !grub
[18:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:13] <Vratha> hi there
[18:13] <Vratha> in kubuntu 7.10, i have two NICs, and both of them keep coming up, even though i disable one of them in the KDE network manager
[18:14] <Vratha> is there a way to get the other NIC to stay off and not come back up?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> Vratha, check in /usr/share/autostart, you may have 2 setup there
[18:20] <Vratha> hmm, i don't see anytyhing about ath0/wlan0 in there
[18:21] <ibou> i have a problem with streamtuner: when i use the search tool, i can use it just one time after the installation but after i can't use it anymore ...
[18:22] <BluesKaj> ibou , amarok does a much better job of streaming network radio then streamtuner
[18:24] <Zimo> i have one fast i installed my kubunto about a year ago or 6 monuts can i upgrade it (only if its easy)
[18:25] <ibou> BluesKaj: maybe but i can't find any search tool in amarok for radios. Do you ?
[18:26] <Arwen> ibou, that's because there isn't one
[18:27] <ibou> Arwen: :)
[18:28] <regeya> dang it, now I have to fire up amarok
[18:28]  * regeya usually uses quod libet
[18:29] <regeya> yeah, ibou, other than magnatune and last.fm, you'll need to use something like shoutcast.com to find streams
[18:30] <martijn81> i crashed my kicker and cannot get it back, anyone with help?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> streamtuner used to work well in the older distros but it seems buggy in the last couple of releases
[18:31] <rich1> hi.  i cannot make changes to network settings stick.  i want to change to opendns settings but every time i shutdown and restart the settings are lost.
[18:31] <walmik> hi all... how can i increase the brightness on my laptop.. when it was vista, it had the fn+f8 to do that, but that does not work in kubuntu
[18:34] <solid_liquid> walmik, there's an applet at the top of the screen for that
[18:35] <solid_liquid> walmik, usually the fn buttons work too, but maybe they're not setup for you laptop by default yet
[18:35] <walmik> solid_liquid: ok... thanks,. i ll try that
[18:35] <solid_liquid> np
[18:36] <Wiggles> hi all
[18:36] <Wiggles> i'm trying to install kde4 but I have a problem
[18:36] <Wiggles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57242/
[18:38] <PhilRod> Wiggles: weird. I installed kde4 three days ago and it worked, so probably not broken packages
[18:38] <PhilRod> can you install kdebase-kde4? (ie, does it really exist)
[18:38] <martijn81> have you done a apt-get update
[18:39] <PhilRod> oh yeah, that too :-)
[18:40] <Wiggles> I have updated
[18:40] <rich1> hi.  i cannot make changes to network settings stick.  i want to change to opendns settings but every time i shutdown and restart the settings are lost.  can someone help me please?
[18:40] <Wiggles> kdebase-kde4 is broken too
[18:40] <BluesKaj> !dns
[18:40] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[18:41] <BluesKaj> !network
[18:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:41] <richard> hi
[18:42] <MrJigsaw> !grub
[18:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:42] <richard> has anyone had any luck getting phun to work, or know how to sort out "Couldnt find matching GLX visual" errors?
[18:42] <MrJigsaw> Now ive been using the first link there, and it dosent work ;(
[18:44] <fungos> is there a (beta/alfa/test) repository with newer kernels?
[18:45] <mrunagi> MrJigsaw: why did you install windows after ubuntu?
[18:48] <ICM> Alright....
[18:51] <ICM> How do I get three monitors to work in Kubuntu? I've odne this in Windows.. Two of the monitors (both SyncMaster 955DF's) are hooked up to my PCI-E NVidia 7600GS, and the other is an eMachines monitor hooked up to the onboard 6150LE. How... do I set it up so I can use all three monitors (like I could in Windows)?
[18:51] <mik18> !vnc
[18:51] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[18:52] <ICM> Not VNC, these are all connected to one computer
[18:52] <mik18> oh haha i was just looking for me ;)
[18:52] <ICM> oh, good, you scared me :p
[18:54] <jussi01> !dualhead | ICM
[18:54] <ubotu> ICM: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[18:54] <ICM> !Xinerama
[18:54] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[18:55] <jussi01> :)
[18:55] <ICM> Thanks :)
[18:55] <jussi01> np
[18:56] <richard> note to self: dont list the channels on this server ever again...
[18:56] <ICM> heh
[18:56] <ICM> I did that on DALnet once. I was sorry.
[18:56] <BluesKaj> richard, or use a filter :)
[18:56] <richard> lol
[18:57] <richard> BluesKaj: damage is done :P
[18:57] <drbobb> hello, i'm looking for someone with experience hooking up a samsung mobile phone to a kubuntu pc
[18:57] <drbobb> bluetooth, usb file transfer and so on
[18:57] <richard> anyway, back to what I came on here to ask: anyone know anything about phun/no matching glx visuals?
[18:58] <mik18> have you guys experienced the bug with nvidia card and scrambled video?
[18:58] <mik18> like pink / green scrambled look... i found in some nvidia forums that it's a known bug, but didn't see a good fix
[18:59] <drbobb> i'm looking for someone who has done it specifically with a samsung, don't bother to give generic answers
[18:59] <mik18> !FreeNX
[18:59] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[18:59] <drbobb> i had all i needed working with my old sonyericsson, but nothing seems to work with my new samsung
[19:00] <swatto> anyone know if there is a program that i can use so that programs get automatically minmized to systray rather than taskbar
[19:01] <twosouls82> where can I find info on the next LTS for Kubuntu?
[19:01] <richard> twosouls82: isnt that hardy?
[19:01] <richard> 8.04 or something?
[19:02] <richard> !lts
[19:02] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[19:02] <BluesKaj> richard, no that was the intention at first, but the rumour is not until the Oct release
[19:02] <richard> ah, my mistake
[19:02] <richard> actually, i heard that kubuntu wouldnt be carrying on?
[19:03] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to tell the kernel to re-scan for new IDE devices? When I connect my noteook to the docking station the cdrom drive isn't recognized.
[19:03] <BluesKaj> Hardy isn't getting LTS afaik
[19:03] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: did you read that somewhere? (it would be nice to have a link, if you have it)
[19:04] <twosouls82> a no for Hardy indeed
[19:05] <richard> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002099.html
[19:05] <richard> any use?
[19:06] <stdin> the beginning of the thread is https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002066.html
[19:08] <hansy> evening
[19:09] <hansy> i have added a sound blaster audio card after kubuntu install... how do i add drivers for it??
[19:09] <hansy> is there a easy way to mod the kernel or something like that?
[19:09] <stdin> !soundblaster
[19:09] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[19:18] <drbobb> ok, nobody able to give some helpful hints about my samsung phone?
[19:20] <drbobb> or is it the case that connecting this phone to a pc positively requires booting into windows?
[19:20] <hansy> the repos in SB guide don't have a GPG https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[19:20] <drbobb> brb
[19:21] <Aranel> how schedule fsck  for next boot ?
[19:22] <Hydrogen> touch /forcefsck
[19:23] <Hydrogen> iirc
[19:27] <Aranel> thanks.
[19:28] <drbobb> it's kind of weird, looks like the kde bluetooth utils can talk to the phone, but i can't get any operation at all to complete successfully
[19:28] <snarkster> Im looking for an app.. it is called convert it
[19:28] <Aranel> how can I see kernel logs ?
[19:29] <Aranel> I have a kernel panic :/
[19:29] <Dragnslcr> drbobb- I've had the same problems with a Samsung phone. It used to work well, but not recently
[19:30] <drbobb> you mean same phone, same kde version, used to work and stopped working?
[19:30] <Dragnslcr> Aranel- /var/log/kern.log maybe
[19:30] <johannes__> nabend
[19:30] <Aranel> thanks
[19:31] <ICM> O_o
[19:31] <drbobb> Dragnslcr: how did you operate w/ the phone when it did work?
[19:31] <Dragnslcr> drbobb- mine is a D407
[19:31] <BluesKaj> snarkster, convert what to what ?
[19:31] <Dragnslcr> drbobb- I think I could just transfer files with Konqueror
[19:32] <drbobb> Dragnslcr: i have no idea what the model name implies, there are way too many of them
[19:32] <drbobb> my q was: usb or bluettoth?
[19:32] <drbobb> bluetooth even
[19:32] <Dragnslcr> Bluetooth
[19:33] <philphoto> using a new install of 7.10 on a new hdd after my old one crashed.  now i  have no usb.  any help?
[19:33] <Oloughlin75> !ati
[19:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:33] <drbobb> 'cause it seems even though my phone has a usb port, it can't be mounted as usb storage
[19:33] <snarkster> videos to videos
[19:33] <grul> ati :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[19:33] <snarkster> but i cant locate it
[19:33] <drbobb> it uses some sort of proprietary protocol instead
[19:34] <snarkster> I had it on my kde 3.5.8 then i dumped the hard drive and installed a new version of kde4 and lost it
[19:34] <drbobb> which really sucks even for windows users
[19:34] <snarkster> drbobb what kinda phone?
[19:34] <drbobb> samsung L760
[19:35] <snarkster> Razor and Blackberry are the same way..
[19:35] <snarkster> to mount razor you need 40 dollar software
[19:35] <snarkster> oh and windows
[19:35] <snarkster> Maybe the same thing for yours
[19:36] <drbobb> (it seems that i can't walk up to any random windows pc and d/l my photos to it, cause it won't work without samsung's drivers)
[19:36] <snarkster> right
[19:36] <drbobb> (not to mention a linux pc)
[19:36] <regeya> and that's the problem with proprietary hardware.
[19:36] <drbobb> if i had known i wouldn't have bought this phone
[19:36] <philphoto> any help with usb problem?  new install 7.10 on new hdd and now no usb
[19:36] <Jahromeo> hi anyone around to help me with an install issue? my install is stuck on 82% on scanning mirror - im not online but it keeps trying to scan
[19:36] <Jahromeo> can i bypass that?
[19:36] <drbobb> but good luck getting that sort of info out of the phone company saleslady
[19:37] <regeya> hehe
[19:38] <hansy> how do i modify the kernel?
[19:38] <snarkster> drbobb: the sales lady probably has never heard of linux
[19:38] <Jahromeo> my installer is stuck on 82% - configuring apt - scanning the mirror... - pc isnt even online how can i bypass that - if i dont it screws up apt-get
[19:38] <drbobb> looks like the best option is uploading pics from the phone to flickr by http;)
[19:38] <Jahromeo> done this on 2 diff discs one i had conical mail me , the other i downloaded
[19:38] <snarkster> drbobb: yup
[19:39] <drbobb> snarkster: like i tried to explain, it's not an issue that affects linux users only
[19:39] <snarkster> drbobb Im agreeing with you
[19:39] <philphoto> any help with usb problem?  new install 7.10 on new hdd and now no usb
[19:39] <mrunagi> !usb
[19:39] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:40] <philphoto> no
[19:41] <philphoto> i had a hdd crash and loaded up 7.10 on another hdd and now have no usb at all.  /usbdevfs doesn't even exist.
[19:41] <hansy> !custom kernel
[19:41] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[19:42] <mrunagi> my partitions dont show up on the desktop anymore, anyone know why?
[19:42] <snarkster> mrunagi are you kde4?
[19:42] <mrunagi> no
[19:42] <hansy> try fdisk -l /dev/[hdd]
[19:42] <martijn81> !compiz-fusion > martijn81
[19:43] <coggz> hi al
[19:43] <IceGuest_7_> Need a distro for a low spec HP. Celeron 733 with 192 megs.
[19:43] <drbobb> how about bitpim - anyone tried that?
[19:43] <martijn81> oops
[19:43] <hansy> hi
[19:43] <martijn81> IceGuest_7_: go for sidux, also debian based and comes with kde and fluxbox
[19:43] <philphoto> IceGuest_7_: try xubuntu
[19:44] <regeya> yay I got myself banned from #ubuntu
[19:44] <regeya> so how's opensuse these days
[19:44] <coggz> how?
[19:44] <alen> hello does now any why oh HH5 Kubuntu not work amarok
[19:44] <martijn81> then you must have not behaving pretty well
[19:44] <mrunagi> IceGuest_7_:  just add more memory and run kubuntu
[19:44] <Jahromeo> I HATE KUBUNTU INSTALLER - IT PERMA BREAKS :(
[19:44] <mrunagi> perma breaks?
[19:44] <IceGuest_7_> I had kubuntu running on it but it was an earlier version
[19:44] <regeya> coggz: I may have been bitching about floodbot1 spewing messages (thus flooding the channel) :->
[19:44] <martijn81> !capslock
[19:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capslock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:44] <mrunagi> !caps
[19:44] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:45] <coggz> lol
[19:45] <philphoto> regeya: that's why I left #ubuntu, too many bot msgs
[19:45] <regeya> I believe the final offense was me typing 'SHUT THAT STUPID THING DOWN' so heh I deserved it :->
[19:45] <coggz> can i ask offtopic question here, as offtopic chanell is ignoring me
[19:45] <mrunagi> coggz: no
[19:46] <coggz> really quick, about xbox
[19:46] <mrunagi> coggz: no
[19:46] <coggz> kk
[19:46] <regeya> is it kubuntu-related?
[19:46] <hansy> where is it all the modules are located?
[19:46] <philphoto> so anyone out there have any advice re:  new install of 7.10 not having usb at all?
[19:46] <Jahromeo> it screws my apt-get
[19:47] <Jahromeo> caus it tries to find sources when im offline during install
[19:47] <Jahromeo> and breaks the 2.bin files
[19:47] <coggz> no, but it is really quite important
[19:47] <Jahromeo> for apt-get
[19:47] <Jahromeo> and no frontend
[19:47] <mrunagi> go online during install?
[19:47] <regeya> important or no, coggz, it's not kubuntu related :> and I don't really think anything xbox-related is 'important
[19:47] <Jahromeo> i cant that machine is offline for the moment
[19:48] <mrunagi> regeya: he cant play fable.........thats disasterous
[19:48] <martijn81> is there a composite support channel for kwin too?
[19:48] <Lynoure> capiira: did not see you ask a thing on #kubuntu-offtopic...
[19:48] <stdin> martijn81: #kde
[19:48] <coggz> lol, no, i just got it and i need to know if regualer power cable works... lol
[19:48] <Lynoure> capiira: oops, sorry, was for coggz
[19:49] <capiira> ?
[19:49] <capiira> :)
[19:49] <BluesKaj> coggz, depends where you live
[19:49] <coggz> UK
[19:49] <snarkster> BluesKaj: Got any clue on the convert program?
[19:49] <capiira> my nick is often auto completed
[19:49] <capiira> np
[19:50] <BluesKaj> snarkster, nope,I checked around , never heard of it before , either
[19:50] <Lynoure> capiira: Thanks. Anything I could help you with, by the way?
[19:50] <martijn81> thanks stdin
[19:50] <capiira> nah no thanks, I'm happy :D
[19:50] <Lynoure> snarkster: convert program as in   convert   or something else?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> snarkster,  you can use tovid, ffmpeg, mencoder , there any number ways to convert video
[19:52] <BluesKaj> snarkster, give me a clue what you're trying to convert from to ?
[19:52] <snarkster> BluesKaj: Yah I did ffmpeg and it looked like total crap
[19:52] <BluesKaj> works well
[19:52] <snarkster> BluesKaj: from avi to mpg.
[19:53] <snarkster> friend of mine said here watch this movie.. cant play it on the dvd player but mpgs can
[19:53] <LetsGo67> When I hold down the direction key, it acts as if I pressed the key and released it.  This is really frustrating.  Can someone help please?
[19:53] <drbobb> hmm i just noticed that the bluetooth icon that used to be under system:/remote is no longer there (in gutsy)
[19:54] <LetsGo67> When I hold down the direction key, it acts as if I pressed the key and released it.  This is really frustrating.  Can someone help please?
[19:55] <Jahromeo> ! medibuntu?
[19:55] <snarkster> is there a gui application that can convert avi to mpeg
[19:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medibuntu? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:55] <Jahromeo> ! medibuntu
[19:55] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:55] <LetsGo67> When I hold down the direction key, it acts as if I pressed the key and released it.  This is really frustrating.  Can someone help please?
[19:55] <Lynoure> snarkster: usually, if you can convert it, you could already play it, too
[19:56] <Lynoure> snarkster: do you have the codecs?
[19:56] <snarkster> yes I do, its for conversion to the DVD player on my TV
[19:57] <BluesKaj> snarkster, this worked for me before i bought a dvdplayer that would play dvix/xvid : ffmpeg -i myfile.avi -target ntsc-dvd /home/user/dvd.mpg
[19:57] <snarkster> hmm Ill try thzat
[19:57] <snarkster> that
[19:59] <BluesKaj> snarkster, or check this site : http://www.smorgasbord.net/2007/06/29/converting-video-in-linux-using-ffmpeg-and-mencoder/
[20:04] <mik18> !samba
[20:04] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[20:05] <Daisuke-Laptop> services for unix (unix interoperability stuffs for windows) and nfs is the way to go
[20:05] <Daisuke-Laptop> and a lot less of a headache as well
[20:06] <snarkster> BluesKaj: last time i converted with ffmpeg it looked all blocky on the computer screen
[20:09] <alexrudd0> Is anyone else experiencing KDE4 startup crashes?
[20:09] <jussi01> alexrudd0: KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[20:09] <alexrudd0> ah, thanks
[20:10] <snarkster> BluesKaj: Thanx Ive bookmarked that
[20:13] <crashed> Yee. Installed Kubuntu over windows again.
[20:13] <newGuy> Hey, how can I check the IP address my network adapter has been assigned?
[20:15] <stephan> hi, is there somthing like katapult but with easy implementable catalogs, f. e. es python script?
[20:15] <crashed> Hey guys, how do I update my ATI x800 drivers?
[20:16] <stephan> crashed: you can try envy http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[20:16] <newGuy> Hey, how can I check the IP address my network adapter has been assigned?
[20:16] <jussi01> !envy
[20:16] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[20:17] <jussi01> stephan: we dont recomend envy here
[20:17] <BluesKaj> crashed, you may want to check the default restricted drivers in system settings/advanced first ,they might work better than new offerings by ati.
[20:17] <stephan> what to do if you what the bleeding version?
[20:18] <stephan> BluesKaj: yes your right
[20:18] <crashed> I just installed the fglrx drivers.
[20:18] <crashed> I should reboot immidiately, this nasty refresh rate is breaking my eyes.
[20:18] <newGuy> Hey, how can I check the IP address my network adapter has been assigned? (I asked before but no responce)
[20:18] <stephan> i removed envy after some testing, restricted manager works better
[20:18] <jussi01> newGuy: ifconfig
[20:19] <newGuy> thanks, synergy works now. :)
[20:19] <jussi01> :)
[20:19] <newGuy> I kept doing 'ipconfig', because I'm a moron.
[20:19] <jussi01> hehe
[20:20]  * newGuy just spent 18 hours writting C code, he has an excuse.
[20:20] <newGuy> my professor thought it would be fun to ask us to write our own MIPS assembler. Two weeks is good, right? :P
[20:21] <crashed> Doesn't look like this fixed anything.
[20:21]  * jussi01 pokes newGuy and asks if he would like to continue the discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic maybe :)
[20:22] <jussi01> crashed: I assume you did it throught the restricted manager?
[20:22] <stephan> is katapult supported in kde4
[20:22] <stephan> ?
[20:22] <crashed> The what a what?
[20:22] <ForgeAus> katapult
[20:22] <jussi01> stephan: you can have it and run it, but its not ported yet afaik
[20:22] <ForgeAus> I think it was a launcher
[20:23] <crashed> Forgot to set driver to fglrx in xorg.
[20:23] <ForgeAus> lol jussi that didn't sound very useful
[20:23] <jussi01> crashed: hehe
[20:23] <ForgeAus> rofl crashed :)
[20:23] <crashed> Rebooted for nothing. Is it possible to just restart xorg without having to restart my entire system?
[20:24] <jussi01> !restartx
[20:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:24] <fdoving> crashed: yes, logout and at the login prompt hit 'alt+e'
[20:24] <tass1412> crashed, ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:25] <jussi01> hmmm, not the cleanest way
[20:25] <tass1412> it works ^^
[20:25] <crashed> Awesome.
[20:25] <jussi01> !wfm | tass1412
[20:25] <ubotu> tass1412: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[20:26] <tass1412> so tell me the difference
[20:26] <crashed> Great, changing resolution didn't work.
[20:26] <crashed> !X resolution problems
[20:26] <jussi01> !fixres | crashed
[20:26] <ubotu> crashed: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:27] <BluesKaj> crashed, admin mode ?
[20:28] <crashed> What is admin mode?
[20:28] <ForgeAus> what is informix?
[20:29] <jussi01> ForgeAus: the company or the ibm server?
[20:29] <crashed> I'm stuck at the Configuring xserver.org screen.
[20:29] <crashed> It says 'Okay', and I hit Enter and Space and it's not doing anything.
[20:30] <jussi01> crashed: tab ?
[20:30] <crashed> Nothing.
[20:30] <ForgeAus> jussi no idea? whats both?
[20:30] <jussi01> ForgeAus: google knows as much as me...
[20:30] <ForgeAus> ok
[20:31] <ForgeAus> oh IC relational database software
[20:31] <crashed> http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4739/snapshot1xk4.png help?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> crashed if you din't enable restricted driver in system settings/advanced in admin mode (permissions ) then the driver won't be enabled
[20:32] <jussi01> crashed: yeah, tab should hilight the ok, then enter or space
[20:33] <ForgeAus> ok I was heading in the wrong direction anyway I was more interested in IBCS - Intel Binary Compatibility Specification Module
[20:33] <crashed> I closed the terminal and now it says the file is locked. Restarting again :P
[20:33] <ForgeAus> wow emulates Xenix! :)
[20:34] <ForgeAus> sparc and unixware!
[20:35] <crashed> Still getting the error.
[20:35] <crashed> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[20:35]  * BluesKaj repeats , crashed if you din't enable restricted driver in system settings/advanced in admin mode (permissions ) then the driver won't be enabled
[20:36] <crashed> BluesKaj, sorry, but I don't understand what you mean.
[20:36] <jussi01> crashed: system settings -> advanced _> restricted drivers
[20:36] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | crashed
[20:36] <ubotu> crashed: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:36] <crashed> I do not see restricted drivers.
[20:37] <jussi01> under advanced?
[20:37] <ForgeAus> BSD binaries don't work under linux right?
[20:37] <crashed> Yes
[20:37] <crashed> This is Edgy
[20:37] <crashed> Not 7.10
[20:37] <jussi01> oh
[20:37] <jussi01> ouch
[20:37] <BluesKaj> gawd!
[20:37] <drbobb> nope, bitpim seems to have no idea how to talk to my phone over usb
[20:37] <crashed> Sorry forgot I was using edgy :P
[20:37] <BluesKaj> now he tells us
[20:37] <ForgeAus> ibcs-base  is a debian package that fixes that!
[20:37] <crashed> I just remembered.
[20:37] <sMonk> Hello
[20:37] <jussi01> hi sMonk
[20:38] <sMonk> I am in need of some assistance
[20:38] <crashed> I ran that command "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" -- it does not fix the locking problem.
[20:39] <BluesKaj> you prolly still have the xserver-xorg process open
[20:39]  * BluesKaj takes a break
[20:39] <daSKreech> Alpha 5 is out?
[20:40] <sMonk> When I try to start my 7.10 system this is what I get..     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57257/
[20:40] <stdin> crashed: "sudo fuser -vki /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[20:40] <crashed> !xres
[20:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:40] <crashed> !fixres
[20:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:42] <jetsaredim> is there an easy way to setup an nfs mount such that it would automatically mount on boot, but not complain so much as to cause a problem during boot when the mount is not there?
[20:43] <ibou> is it possible to configure kubuntu to open files or foldes with double click (not simple) ?
[20:43] <jussi01> !doubleclick | ibou
[20:43] <ubotu> ibou: You can find the mouse-related settings at: KMenu -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[20:43] <crashed> Okay, went through that update.
[20:43] <crashed> Hit enter on everything.
[20:43] <ibou> jussi01: ty
[20:43] <jussi01> :)
[20:44] <crashed> Sweet, it worked. :]
[20:44] <sMonk> The last thing I did was try to run my Virtualbox system and I got an error "VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE)"   so I found a site and I typed in "Sudo chmod 666 / dev / vboxdrv" I got a few errors, Ktorrent shut down and gave me errors.. so I rebooted.. this is when it happend
[20:44] <sMonk> this is what I get now..     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57257/
[20:45] <ibou> jussi01: that bot can really answer to everything. Amazing.
[20:46] <crashed> Hm, what repository has wine in it?
[20:46] <sMonk> wish the bot had a fix for my problem.. lol
[20:47] <fdoving> sMonk: you should generally never chmod anything in /dev/
[20:47] <fdoving> sMonk: you should rather add users to the correct groups.
[20:48] <sMonk> I wasn't aware how... (at the time)
[20:48] <fdoving> sMonk: to use virtualbox you need to be in the group 'vboxusers'
[20:48] <sMonk> oh
[20:48] <sMonk> any suggestions on how to get my system running again?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> !wine | crashed
[20:48] <ubotu> crashed: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[20:51] <BluesKaj> !AppDB
[20:51] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[20:51] <marcus_aurelius> is it me, or does kde4 look a lot like vista?
[20:51] <sMonk> my system is hanging on   "Starting Hardware Abstraction layer hald"
[20:51] <sMonk> and a start-stop-daemon seems to be failing
[20:52] <sd523> just installed kubuntu, restarted and it went to a flashing cursor in  the upper left  hand corner, any ideas?
[20:52] <crashed> Refresh rate on this display is still kinda noticable.
[20:52] <crashed> And burning my eyes.
[20:54] <crashed> Is it possible to update from Edgy to 7.10 without having to burn 7.10 to a disc or anything?
[20:54] <heinkel_111> you should burn the disc...
[20:54] <crashed> I have no discs :P
[20:54] <crashed> Only 6.10 disc.
[20:54] <crashed> And a broken CD-RW from trying to burn Windows to.
[20:55] <heinkel_111> upgrading is a complex process and may cause you trouble
[20:55] <heinkel_111> trouble is best to fight with backups
[20:56] <crashed> I don't like complex.
[20:57] <crashed> Hopefully I can get WINE to work this time.
[20:57] <crashed> Or else installing Kubuntu would be another waste of time. :
[20:57] <heinkel_111> crashed: complex does not mean bad to the user
[20:58] <crashed> Complex means too bad linux newbie (me).
[20:58] <heinkel_111> a new car like a Volvo XC 90 or so is a complex machine compared to a T-Ford
[20:58] <crashed> It would suck if you were a car mechanic.
[20:58] <heinkel_111> but a new driver would still do better in an XC90 :P
[20:59] <crashed> I guess :P
[20:59] <heinkel_111> anyway I don't think it is a problem to get WINE to work in general
[20:59] <MrJigsaw> !grub
[20:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:59] <crashed> Well, getting WINE to work is very easy.
[20:59] <crashed> Getting WINE to work with the app I want it to is tough.
[20:59] <crashed> And I won't attempt that until I finish these 214 updates.
[20:59] <MrJigsaw> Now i tried this guide:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but it dosent help me, how do i get grub startet agian so i can boot up my kubuntu partitation? :(
[20:59] <heinkel_111> the question usually is if you can get it to do what you want to do with it, my thoughts exactly
[21:00] <heinkel_111> in edgy i think wine was as easy as sudo apt-get install wine
[21:00] <crashed> It is.
[21:00] <crashed> After you un-comment one of the repositories.
[21:00] <sMonk> Any one have some ideas on how to help me get my system running again?  When I try to run my Kubuntu 7.10 with KDE on it, the system hangs when it gets to "starting Hardware Abstraction lyer hald"  and a few items before it I get a failure on Start-stop-daemon: unable to start /sbin/klogd : permission denied
[21:01] <crashed> MrJigsaw: I think the Live CD will have a boot fix. Just a guess.
[21:01] <_Enissay_> what's the most important applications that i have to install.. just for fun... :)
[21:01] <MrJigsaw> where crashed? :S
[21:01] <MrJigsaw> i cant find anything..
[21:01] <crashed> Well, there must be boot fix software for that specific problem.
[21:02] <crashed> That XP killing Linux GRUB is like the most common problem in the face of computers.
[21:02] <MrJigsaw> uhm okay..
[21:02] <mrunagi> to anyone that remembers my problem with the zoom effect thing on my icons not working i fixed it if you care to know what it was
[21:02] <crashed> Crap, that progress bar was just for downloading the files.
[21:02] <MrJigsaw> Ill try booting up on live CD..
[21:03] <SlimeyPete> mrunagi: you can use the Alternate CD to boot from the hard disk
[21:03] <SlimeyPete> erm
[21:03] <SlimeyPete> |MrJigsaw|:
[21:03] <|MrJigsaw|> but..
[21:03] <|MrJigsaw|> dosent help me with the grub problem ?
[21:03] <mrunagi> i can?!
[21:03] <SlimeyPete> once you're in you can run grub-install
[21:03] <ForgeAus> Mr Jigsaw I'm sure I have before
[21:03] <SlimeyPete> mrunagi: heh, sorry
[21:03] <ForgeAus> !grub
[21:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:04] <MrJigsaw> i used that ForgeAus..
[21:04] <ForgeAus> the link there shows you how to set grub up
[21:04] <ForgeAus> and?
[21:04] <MrJigsaw> grub dosent show up..
[21:04] <crashed> Let's throw out random people's names for fun. amigo.
[21:04] <ForgeAus> then maybe your doing something wrong?
[21:04] <MrJigsaw> i follow the guide..
[21:04] <_Enissay_> can someone gives me some useful applications to install please...
[21:04] <amigo> crashed: ???
[21:05] <crashed> Hehe
[21:05] <ForgeAus> enissay what do you want to do with them?
[21:05]  * crashed giggles like a little school girl.
[21:05] <ForgeAus> MrJigsaw, can you run qtparted from the live CD?
[21:05] <MrJigsaw> i can run gparted live cd ?
[21:06] <MrJigsaw> qtparted isent on my live CD?  :S
[21:06] <crashed> It's not?
[21:06] <crashed> It's on Edgy Live CD.
[21:06] <ForgeAus> it should be if its a Kubuntu one
[21:06] <MrJigsaw> Its the latest kubuntu live CD
[21:06] <ForgeAus> if its UBUNTU then your in the wrong place kinda
[21:06] <ForgeAus> well then qtparted should b on it
[21:06] <ForgeAus> unless they changed it
[21:06] <crashed> It's odd that QParted is in the Live CD Utilities section, but it doesn't get installed when you install Kubuntu.
[21:06] <MrJigsaw> in the start where ic an choose 'install' ?
[21:06] <mrunagi> qtparted dshould be ther
[21:07] <crashed> Install / Start Live CD MrJigsaw.
[21:07] <ForgeAus> MrJigsaw, run a konsole window
[21:07] <ForgeAus> and type sudo qtparted
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> yes
[21:07] <mrunagi> the same happens with gparted and ubuntu
[21:07] <ForgeAus> oops
[21:07] <mrunagi> but im pretty sure qt parted installed for me
[21:07] <ForgeAus> KDESUDO qtparted sorry
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> im doing that now crashed.
[21:07] <ForgeAus> (just don't type it in caps like I did)
[21:09] <heinkel_111> sudo apt-get install qparted if it is not installed
[21:09] <heinkel_111> works on the live dvd as well
[21:09] <heinkel_111> and if you use reiser file system
[21:10] <crashed> How do I turn on VideoOverlay?
[21:10] <MrJigsaw> I do on my kubuntu partitation heinkel_111
[21:10] <Makuseru> hi, i just got a new moniter, and now i cant set it above 800x600 resolution, i go into the monitor setting in system settings and thats as high as it will let me set it, how can i fix this?
[21:10] <heinkel_111> reiserfs must be installed also (not installed but on the DVD)
[21:10] <crashed> Section "Device" Option "VideoOption" "On" <-- was it like that?
[21:11] <MrJigsaw> Makuseru: install GFX driver ?
[21:11] <drbobb> damnit, are motorola's phones as broken w/r to phone-pc communication as samsung's?
[21:11] <heinkel_111> MrJigsaw: sudo apt-get install reiserfs (works when using liveDVD)
[21:11] <Makuseru> MrJigsaw: why would getting a new moniter cause me to get a new graphics driver?
[21:11] <MrJigsaw> :]
[21:12] <drbobb> 'cause nothing available on kubuntu seems to work with my samsung
[21:12] <MrJigsaw> meaby the one you use dosent support the high resuloution
[21:12] <crashed> That's a freaky coincidense.
[21:12] <Makuseru> MrJigsaw: i had 1280x1024 on my old moniter, which was smaller than my new moniter
[21:12] <heinkel_111> drdobb i have two samsungs and they work...relax
[21:12] <crashed> Someone named MrJigsaw in here, and I trapped my finger in a trap like the one in Saw 2 just now.
[21:12] <drbobb> heinkel_111: define work, please
[21:13] <MrJigsaw> heinkel_111: i can see my kubuntu partitation now in qtparted..
[21:13] <MrJigsaw> So how do i fix grub ? :]
[21:13] <drbobb> heinkel_111: everything i tried to get my photos off the phone and on my pc has failed
[21:13] <crashed> grub-install?
[21:14] <MrJigsaw> explain please crashed :-)
[21:14] <crashed> I don't know I'm just tossing out random ideas that I heard ealier. :P
[21:14] <heinkel_111> drdobb: ah sorry i thought you were in the monitor discussion..didn't notice you said phones
[21:14] <crashed> Boot into Kubuntu Live CD, and run grub-install I think.
[21:15] <MrJigsaw> you cant run that crashed..
[21:15] <MrJigsaw> it just gives some text
[21:15] <SlimeyPete> best to boot via the alternate CD and run grub-install
[21:15] <MrJigsaw> Why the alternate now ?
[21:15] <crashed> Finished downloading and installing 214 updates. Finally.
[21:15] <SlimeyPete> because it lets you boot from your hard disk
[21:15] <crashed> Would it be a good idea to reboot?
[21:15] <MrJigsaw> okay..
[21:15] <MrJigsaw> ill put that cd in then
[21:16] <heinkel_111> MrJigsaw: i can't help you any further just now...must go back to work, just remember that when using the live cd or dvd with reiser systems you must do sudo apt-get install reiserfs every time you reboot. Good luck
[21:16] <martijn81> strange, my mouse get detected very lately
[21:17] <MrJigsaw> SlimeyPete: should i do a 'rescue a broken system' ?
[21:17] <Makuseru> hi, i just got a new moniter, and now i cant set it above 800x600 resolution, i go into the monitor setting in system settings and thats as high as it will let me set it, how can i fix this?
[21:18] <crashed> !fixres
[21:18] <crashed> !fixres
[21:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: "Boot From First Hard Disk" if it's available, but the rescue mode might work I guess (I've not tried)
[21:19] <MrJigsaw> but first harddisk is windows ;|
[21:19] <crashed> Hey guys, if a certain application is complaining about missing DLLs, what's the best way to install the DLLs?
[21:19] <crashed> Crap wrong window.
[21:20] <daSKreech> crashed: Wine?
[21:20] <crashed> Yes
[21:21] <MrJigsaw> How lame that grub want work!
[21:21] <MrJigsaw> And first harddisk is windows suddenly :(
[21:21] <MrJigsaw> So theres no way to fix grub ?
[21:21] <crashed> MrJigsaw: First harddisk has to be windows.
[21:22] <MrJigsaw> ...
[21:22] <aharoon> i cannt open synaptic it says unable to get exclusive lock it says anothe app manegment is running but nothing is running
[21:22] <MrJigsaw> I just want GRUB up running!
[21:25] <usuario> ggg
[21:25] <MrJigsaw> !grub
[21:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:25] <MrJigsaw> ffs i pissed at grub atm..
[21:25] <martijn81> !fising
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fising - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:25] <martijn81> !fissing
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fissing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <arigold> Hi everyone. Have a question about loading a distro on Xeon proc server.. anyone have experience with this?
[21:27] <aharoon> what is the command used when crashed db and couldnt installing app
[21:27] <JoshOvki> evening
[21:27] <arigold> evening!
[21:27] <jpatrick> !aptfix | aharoon
[21:27] <ubotu> aharoon: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:28] <crashed> !ad nevermind
[21:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ad nevermind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:29] <aharoon> ubotu:dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[21:29] <MrJigsaw> How do i: 5. Reboot (to hard drive).  ?
[21:30] <aharoon> i tried sudo dpkg --configure -a and get this error dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[21:30] <arigold> can anyone suggest a server admin channel on irc?
[21:31] <JoshOvki> aharoon: might sound silly but have you tried restarting?
[21:31] <arigold> 338 logins and almost no activity |-(
[21:33] <aharoon> josh0vki: its my last solution i want to use command more and more to remember them if no ones knows what is the solution noprp
[21:33] <MrJigsaw> How do i: 5. Reboot (to hard drive).  ?
[21:34] <JoshOvki> aharoon: the other option is to see if adept is running in the background
[21:34] <arigold> MrJigsaw - you mean reboot to root - on X11?
[21:34] <arigold> or no graphics?
[21:34] <MrJigsaw> no.. the guide says: 5. Reboot (to hard drive). Grub should be installed and both Ubuntu and Windows should have been automatically detected.
[21:34] <stdin> restart without the disk in the system
[21:35] <crashed> How do you search the repositories for a certain program?
[21:35] <arigold> MrJigsaw - explain more - have you just installed and you cannot see GRUB?
[21:35] <MrJigsaw> stdin: LOL.. i cant ?
[21:35] <stdin> can't ?
[21:35] <MrJigsaw> its a partiation
[21:35] <MrJigsaw> i cant just remove a harddrive from my system
[21:35] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: restart normaly, surely it will then boot from the disk
[21:35] <stdin> I meant disk as in boot dist, if you don't have a boot disk then you are already booting to hard drive
[21:36] <aharoon>  josh0vki: i run top command to see if adept running or not i didnt find it
[21:36] <JoshOvki> *drive
[21:36] <MrJigsaw> ill try..
[21:36] <MrJigsaw> Dont think so tough..
[21:36] <MrJigsaw> so should the kubuntu Cd stay in or out ?
[21:36] <arigold> MrJigsaw - if you have live CD you can just restart the machine with the power switch. If you installed the OS, it should have partitioned the hard drive. If you want to install on the hard drive, then
[21:37] <arigold> you should have GRUb installed already
[21:37] <MrJigsaw> arigold: im trying to fix grub.
[21:37] <MrJigsaw> windows fucked it up
[21:37] <arigold> vista?
[21:37] <stdin> !language | MrJigsaw
[21:37] <ubotu> MrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:37] <Rukus> whats the network manager for KDE4?
[21:37] <MrJigsaw> XP arigold
[21:37] <stdin> Rukus: there is none, use the KDE3 version
[21:37] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: if you are currently running off CD restart and eject the cd
[21:38] <arigold> (that was a bot comment try F#$ked up :-))
[21:38] <Rukus> it wont dock itself in my systray
[21:38] <stdin> arigold: that's not acceptable either
[21:38] <Flats> I have a Kubuntu system with a secondary HD.  I would like to install XP on the second HD and do a dual boot.  Is that possible or does Windoze have to be first?
[21:38] <MrJigsaw> again, grub dosent load UP
[21:38] <arigold> stdini - :-P
[21:38] <stdin> arigold: it's quite obvious what it means, and if you have to disguise it, why say it at all?
[21:38] <arigold> MrJigsaw, Did you boot from LiveCD?
[21:38] <crashed> Hm
[21:38] <MrJigsaw> what term yo use instead of fucked up then ?
[21:38] <Rukus> is kde4 going to get better?
[21:38] <MrJigsaw> Yes arigold
[21:39] <crashed> Anyone know how to turn on video overlays?
[21:39] <MrJigsaw> and followed the guide here:
[21:39] <MrJigsaw> !grub
[21:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:39] <MrJigsaw> firstl ikn
[21:39] <sveri> i cannot connect to uw-imap on my server, does somebody know a howto or something to set up uw-imap?
[21:39] <MrJigsaw> and DOSENT work
[21:39] <crashed> http://rafb.net/p/bQtSIL87.html
[21:39] <stdin> MrJigsaw: messed up maybe, don't keep using that language
[21:39] <MrJigsaw> Okay
[21:39] <MrJigsaw> you guys are so holy in here..
[21:39] <Rukus> is kde4 going to be more functional like  kde3 eventually, after you quit worrying about the flashiness?
[21:40] <arigold> Did you run the installation when you booted the desktop? Did you run through the installation wizard?
[21:40] <MrJigsaw> okay listen..
[21:40] <MrJigsaw> I got a kubuntu Partitation working JUST FINE, but then i installed windows on another partitation, and now grub is GONE
[21:40] <MrJigsaw> and it keep booting up in windows..
[21:40] <stdin> Rukus: it takes time to port applications over to kde4, knetworkmanager is not even part of KDE, just uses the KDE GUI
[21:40] <arigold> ohhh... you installe dwindows AFTER Xbuntu
[21:40] <crashed> Anyone know how to turn on video overlay?
[21:40] <JoshOvki> Rukus: its still under development and is only v4.0.1 not even v4.1 yet. It will get there but you must understand its stull being build
[21:40] <arigold> that is a difficult clean up... so to speak..
[21:41] <Rukus> ok cool
[21:41] <MrJigsaw> what if i removed the windows partitation, would that help grub to work? :|
[21:41] <Rukus> if i dont have kde3 installed, how do i get knetwork manager? can i install is seperately?
[21:41] <arigold> how important is your user data? Do you have it backed up?
[21:41] <Rukus> it*
[21:41] <siofwolves> MrJigsaw, no
[21:41] <stdin> Rukus: yes, just install the package "knetworkmanager"
[21:41] <Rukus>  thanks
[21:41] <MrJigsaw> arigold: formatting the kubuntu partitation is NOT an option
[21:42] <abortd> lol
[21:42] <arigold> MrJigsaw - do you have backup of the important data on kubuntu or not?
[21:42] <MrJigsaw> i dont
[21:42] <siofwolves> MrJigsaw, boot off the kubuntu cd and re-install grub from there
[21:42] <lordrayden> hi, I triied apt-get install a beautifull blonde and nothin happened :)
[21:42] <crashed> You should always back up when doing partitions and the likes.
[21:42] <crashed> lord: you can have me instead.
[21:42] <MrJigsaw> siofwolves: ffs.. dont you think ive tried..?
[21:42] <sveri> lordrayden: try apt-get install real life ;-)
[21:43] <crashed> Google doesn't help. I need to know how to turn on video overlay :(
[21:43] <lordrayden> on the other hand, my kopete dont work with firestarter :(
[21:43] <Rukus> also, i used to be able to right click on my secondary ext3 partition and my USB Hard drive to gain root access so i could mount and change permissions.  now i cant in KDE4, so how can i do that in kde4?
[21:43] <Rukus> (in dolphin)
[21:43] <Rukus> sorry
[21:44] <siofwolves> MrJigsaw, sorry. erm. try gag bootloader http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[21:44] <lordrayden> crashed - apt-get you hou :)
[21:44] <lordrayden> how?
[21:45] <JoshOvki> im just installing all the updates now after screwing up my grub while trying to install backtrack2, but i have all my data on a seperate partition to my install
[21:45] <crashed> Dangit!
[21:45] <crashed> http://rafb.net/p/bQtSIL87.html
[21:45] <crashed> I turned on VideoOverlay.
[21:45] <arigold> MrJigsaw - did you look over the info or resources mentioned at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513
[21:46] <lordrayden> i also am in need af a decent dc++ client 4 linux, linuxdcpp doesn't seem to do its job till now on kubuntu 710
[21:46] <MrJigsaw> no arigold ?
[21:46] <MrJigsaw> what should i use that for?
[21:46] <MrJigsaw> dident think that a simple windows partitation would screw grub up, it dident at my laptop.
[21:47] <arigold> it discusses what you SHOULD have done, I believe. It also gives links to resources for this kind of installation that may help
[21:47] <MrJigsaw> Well.. i dont live in the past.. so its to late ;)
[21:48] <MrJigsaw> ill try gag thingy now
[21:48] <sMonk> what should be the correct permissions for /sbin/klogd
[21:48] <arigold> MrJigsaw. you want a quick fix for something you messed up. If you can't destroy the Linux part and you do nto want to read ... what do you expect this IRC channel to do for you?
[21:48] <sMonk> ?
[21:49] <MrJigsaw> well arigold..
[21:49] <MrJigsaw> first ill try gag then ill read :)
[21:49] <lordrayden> how can i get dc++ in kubuntu? :)
[21:50] <drbobb> bluetooth worked better in feisty, blah
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> lordrayden: use wine and a windows dc++ client?
[21:50] <lordrayden> feisty is better? I'll get win98 then :))
[21:51] <JoshOvki> ohohoh i have a question:  I am currently install updates via Adept Updater. I am not going to have time t get all of them down before i have to relocate which will mean my connection dies. Is there anyway to safley stop the updates without killing my database?
[21:51] <lordrayden> tnx jigsaw, will try
[21:51] <drbobb> mostly gutsy is better, but kbluetooth seems to have regressed
[21:51] <jussi01> JoshOvki: afaik you can safely stop in the download phase no probs
[21:52] <JoshOvki> thanks jussi01
[21:52] <jussi01> :)
[21:54] <MrJigsaw> is 'screw' er bad word inhere?
[21:54] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: it depends on the context
[21:54] <jussi01> As with most things.
[21:55] <MrJigsaw> its very very anyoing that grub just want install again..
[21:55] <MrJigsaw> stupid windows
[21:56] <sMonk> I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu 7.10 box.. It wont start, it has a failure on startup  "start-stop-daemon : unable to start /sbin/klogd : permission denied"  then it passes a couple of more processes then it gets to "starting hardware abstraction layer hald" and it neither passes or fails.. it just hangs, and the system won't start
[21:56] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: so what have you followed? Have you tried the suggestions in !grub?
[21:57] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: If so, does it complete properly, if not, what error does it give?
[21:57] <MrJigsaw> no error
[21:57] <MrJigsaw> it completes
[21:57] <MrJigsaw> but still it boots up windows
[21:57] <ubuntu_> Grr.
[21:58] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: so it wont boot anything BUT windows?
[21:58] <Crashed> Guys, when I boot into Kubuntu, what do I press to stop X from booting?
[21:58] <Crashed> I broke X somehow and now my system fails to start.
[21:58] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: are you sure you installed it to the correct hdd/patition  ?
[21:58] <lordrayden> console login crashed
[21:58] <Crashed> ?
[21:58] <Ketobi> you can switch to the terminal by pressing strg+alt+f1
[21:58] <Crashed> strg = the windows button? :P
[21:59] <lordrayden> from kdm manager, where u input pass
[21:59] <jussi01> Crashed: ctrl
[21:59] <Crashed> ctrl + alt + f1. alright, thanks.
[21:59] <Crashed> any tips on how to fix x?
[21:59] <MrJigsaw> jussi01: i installed as it says ?
[21:59] <MrJigsaw> (hd0) ?
[21:59] <lordrayden> dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg
[22:00] <MrJigsaw> or should i setup it to what this command finds: /boot/grub/stage1 ?
[22:00] <lordrayden> cradhed
[22:00] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaaw: can you pastebin your menu.lst incase there is something in there thats wrong
[22:00] <MrJigsaw> JoshOvki: i cant.
[22:00] <mrunagi> !session
[22:00] <MrJigsaw> dont know how to say this in english ;S
[22:00] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[22:01] <mrunagi> ln: `fusion-icon/': hard link not allowed for directory whats this mean
[22:03] <drbobb> wow, hardly what i'd expect! turns out digikam is the only kubuntu program capable of communicating with my phone...
[22:03] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: you cant access your linux partition with a live cd can u?
[22:03] <swatto> whats the shortcut key to kill an app
[22:03] <npurciful_> Okay i am going to shoot a question at you, I have a AV reciever that is feed buy digital coax (this works) the problem is that when i play something my reciever tries changing modes and thus 1-2 without audio ( its not out of sync), it was working fine and now it has started this again ( i have fixed it before just dont remember how) any ideals
[22:04] <Rukus> man i am having some simple problems, that i have never had before
[22:04] <sMonk> I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu 7.10 box.. It wont start, it has a failure on startup  "start-stop-daemon : unable to start /sbin/klogd : permission denied"  then it passes a couple of more processes then it gets to "starting hardware abstraction layer hald" and it neither passes or fails.. it just hangs, and the system won't start
[22:04] <Rukus> how do i mount a volume!?!?
[22:04] <Crashed> Guys, CTRL + ALT + F1 didn't work.
[22:04] <Crashed> I seriously broke X :(
[22:05] <jussi01> Crashed: try starting with the recovery option in grub
[22:05] <Crashed> jussi: that option is only visible for 2 seconds.
[22:05] <Crashed> So I gotta be ninja-like to get to it.
[22:05] <Crashed> But I'll try.
[22:05] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: in anser to your question, yes, use the result of that command
[22:06] <regeya> rofflecopters.  still banned in #ubuntu.
[22:06] <regeya> thin-skinned mods in #ubuntu these days, eh?
[22:07] <jussi01> regeya: please join #ubuntu-ops to discus it
[22:07] <regeya> how many channels does one linux distribution need???
[22:08] <aleksanteri> regeya, note ubuntu being four "distributions" (ok one distro with four variants), and the popularity of ubuntu ;)
[22:09] <regeya> geg
[22:09] <regeya> heh even
[22:09] <lordrayden> note ubuntu - is debian and take it from ther :)
[22:10] <regeya> I still don't agree that kubuntu/xubuntu need to be darn near totally separate, but that's just me...eh, I guess I don't have a problem with people discussing kde and gnome in the same channel...but heh yea, I could see how that could cause problems if everyone used the same irc server/channel/etc.
[22:10] <jussi01> regeya: this is not the right place for this discussion, kindly follow what I said :)
[22:10] <BluesKaj> regeya, so what is your question besides the one above ?
[22:11] <regeya> I went to the proper channel to discuss it...just me and jussi01, who hasn't responded yet
[22:11] <lordrayden> apt-get install sexy lady retunes an error :( :)) still, maybe in the next distro it will be better :)
[22:12] <regeya> the clear message, after using ubuntu since the first release, has been 'give another distro a try' for a while now :->
[22:12] <lordrayden> should I try sexy lady --in my rom ?
[22:12] <jhutchins__> regeya: THe philosophy behind separating the channels the way they are is that the desktop you choose largely determines your primary experience with the system, and the questions and problems, as well as their solutions, may be specific to the interface.
[22:12] <Crashed> I was able to get into recovery mode, but wasn't able to fix X when in it.
[22:13] <Crashed> What do you guys suggest I do?
[22:13] <jussi01> regeya: you havent joined #ubuntu-ops yet
[22:13] <lordrayden> apt-get install --reinstall xorg  crash
[22:13] <jhutchins__> Crashed: Well, from there you'd be able to edit your xorg config.
[22:13] <Crashed> jhut: I tried editing it back, didn't fix it.
[22:13] <Crashed> lord: alright.
[22:13] <jhutchins__> Or you could boot to normal mode, log in to a console, kill kdm and work up from there.
[22:13] <lordrayden> did u try dpkg reconfigure?
[22:13] <Crashed> Anything else I should know before rebooting *again*?
[22:14] <jussi01> !tab > Crashed
[22:14] <Crashed> I know about tab. :P
[22:14] <lordrayden> specifically what is the mater?
[22:14] <Crashed> Not sure.
[22:14] <Roge> is there a way to change the clock from 24 hour to normal
[22:14] <Crashed> I start X, X doesn't boot./
[22:14] <lordrayden> resolution? freq?
[22:14] <jhutchins__> Crashed: How are you starting it, and what DOES happen?
[22:15] <Crashed> I type 'X' to start it.
[22:15] <mrunagi> irssi | crashed
[22:15] <jhutchins__> (What doesn't happen is hardly ever of interest.)
[22:15] <Crashed> And it starts loading.
[22:15] <lordrayden> try startx
[22:15] <Crashed> It gets to 100%, then the progress bar comes back and it's stuck at 90% forever.
[22:15] <mrunagi> startx will tell you more of why it wont load
[22:15] <Crashed> Ah, okay.
[22:15] <Crashed> CTRL + ALT + F1 didn't put me in a terminal by the way.
[22:15] <jhutchins__> Progress bar... I never had a progress bar on plain x.
[22:15] <Crashed> I'm running Edgy.
[22:15] <jhutchins__> WHat's on the screen when you're done?
[22:15] <Crashed> I'm never done.
[22:15] <Crashed> It's stuck at 90%.
[22:16] <jhutchins__> Crashed: Could be keyboard map issues then.
[22:16] <lordrayden> ctrl alt backspace will do :)
[22:16] <Crashed> Ah.
[22:16] <jhutchins__> lordrayden: Might - unless his I/O is hosed.
[22:16] <Crashed> I'll try startx, then apt-get install --reinstall x
[22:16] <BluesKaj> Roge, right click on the clock , choose date & time format, then times&dates tab and you'll see the drop down dialog choices there
[22:16] <lordrayden> reinstall xorg
[22:17] <tcm_> Hi I can't get 3d acceleration working. Can someone help me. It's a Compaq Evo N410c. http://pastebin.com/m725495a9 for lspci and xorg.conf
[22:19] <AlferedHichcok> in adept package manager. a package is "slapd"          is it the same as in http://www.openldap.org/software/download/   ? should i download slapd instead. ?
[22:19] <fdoving> AlferedHichcok: yes.
[22:20] <The_ManU_212> hi
[22:20] <The_ManU_212> how to create a mp3 file out of a wav file with konqueror?
[22:20] <AlferedHichcok> fdoving,  ok. you sure. completely ?
[22:21] <fdoving> AlferedHichcok: yep. totaly.
[22:21] <jussi01> The_ManU_212: I dont think konq does that, try soundkonverter
[22:21] <mrunagi> !ati
[22:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:21] <mrunagi> AlferedHichcok:
[22:21] <AlferedHichcok> mrunagi,  yes ?
[22:22] <The_ManU_212> jussi01: are you ssure, because tehre are options for lame....
[22:22] <mrunagi> see above link
[22:22] <BluesKaj> AlferedHichcok, fdoving , the slapd on the website DL is anewer version than the one in adept
[22:22] <bkmz> Hi!
[22:22] <jussi01> The_ManU_212: Im not sure that it doesnt do it, however, Iam sure soundkonverter does
[22:22] <jhutchins__> The_ManU_212: I believe there's a wav2mp3 util, but you should use something like ogg.
[22:22] <bkmz> Does sombodey speak russian?
[22:23] <jussi01> !ru | bkmz
[22:23] <ubotu> bkmz: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[22:23] <bkmz> Ïî-ðóññêè êòî-òî áåëüìåñàåò?
[22:23] <AlferedHichcok> BluesKaj,  ok
[22:23] <The_ManU_212> jhutchins__: yes ogg is better but mp3 is mainstream :S so ogg is bad for sharing
[22:23] <bkmz> jussi01^ What have you just said?
[22:23] <AlferedHichcok> BluesKaj,  but iam talking only about stable release
[22:24] <jussi01> bkmz: /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:24] <BluesKaj> yes AlferedHichcok the website release is stable
[22:24] <bkmz> ok thanks :)
[22:24] <AlferedHichcok> BluesKaj,  shouldnt i must add repo of that in my adep. its always good to have apps from repo
[22:24] <Crashed> Reinstalling Xorg didn't work
[22:24] <mrunagi> Crashe what is the problem
[22:24] <AlferedHichcok> Crashed,  whats your problem?
[22:25] <lordrayden> ok, installed wine+dc++, now how do i fire dc++?
[22:25] <Crashed> X appears to be broken.
[22:25] <jpatrick> !nickspam > owner__
[22:25] <mrunagi> more infor please
[22:25] <Crashed> I ran some wacky commands that I saw ona a website to turn on VideoOverlay, and when I rebooted Kubuntu wouldn't boot up anymore.
[22:25] <BluesKaj> AlferedHichcok, using the one in the repos should be fine, i was merely pointing out the difference.
[22:25] <mrunagi> cioverlay?
[22:25] <Crashed> No.
[22:25] <AlferedHichcok> BluesKaj,  ok
[22:25] <lordrayden> did u try dpkg reconfigure blah blah?
[22:25] <AlferedHichcok> thanks
[22:26] <Crashed> No lord :|
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> Crashed» thats simple to fix.... boot up recovery mode and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[22:26] <Crashed> Alright, I'll try that.
[22:26] <Crashed> Eighth reboot here I come. :P
[22:26] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: remember that zoom icon problem i was having?
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> :)
[22:26] <lordrayden> dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg crash
[22:26] <Crashed> Looks like I'll need a pad and pen for that command.
[22:26] <The_ManU_212> ok i use lame
[22:26] <The_ManU_212> thx
[22:26] <The_ManU_212> cu
[22:26] <lordrayden> :)
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» no....
[22:26] <mrunagi> nevermind then
[22:26] <mrunagi> lol
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» the setting for that is in "launch feed back"though ;)
[22:27] <mrunagi> launch feed back?
[22:28] <Crashed> Here we go.
[22:28] <lordrayden> nomatter how bad u do it at least ull gat a decent desktop to go configure with the mouse crash :)
[22:28] <BluesKaj> mrunagi, in kcontrol
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> mrunagi» in kcontrol
[22:29] <mrunagi> what am i looking for in launch feed back
[22:30] <AlferedHichcok> BluesKaj,  iam new at this ldap stuff. how shouldi setup the server and client in the most secure manner. so that if any other clients tries to pluge the cable to the server he wont get connected.? how do i do networking that way?
[22:30] <lordrayden> how do i start wine dc++?
[22:30] <lordrayden> help
[22:31] <AlferedHichcok> networking
[22:31] <lordrayden> comand line
[22:31] <lordrayden> i suck at wine
[22:32] <jussi01> lordrayden: wine file.exe
[22:33] <BluesKaj> AlferedHichcok, i hate to say this , but I have no idea about server networking :(
[22:33] <lordrayden> k, i'll try reboot linux, kox i tried it and no dc++:)
[22:33] <mrunagi> good lord kwd crashes alot
[22:34] <AlferedHichcok> BluesKaj,  ok
[22:34] <BluesKaj> !ldap | AlferedHichcok
[22:34] <ubotu> AlferedHichcok: LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[22:34] <lordrayden> firesttarter is a good place to start in server networking /w kubuntu :)
[22:34] <mrunagi> !ksmoothdock
[22:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksmoothdock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:34] <mrunagi> oops
[22:34]  * lordrayden rebootin
[22:36] <Psycoshot> hey
[22:36] <Psycoshot> This si sorta embarassing >.>
[22:36] <Psycoshot> But what do I put for a space in konsole ?
[22:37] <adz21c> Psycoshot: put a \ infront of the space
[22:37] <Psycoshot> :S I was right.
[22:37] <Psycoshot> WHy didn't it work T.T
[22:37] <Crashed> Guys, that didn't work.
[22:37] <Crashed> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[22:38] <Crashed> I went through the dialogs and encountered the same problem.
[22:38] <Crashed> I've spent so much time on this small problem that it would've been quicker to reinstall Kubuntu.
[22:38] <acemo> when i put vlc to full screen it puts the movie on my 1st screen, how do i get this on the 2nd screen?
[22:39] <Crashed> I may as well just reinstall kubuntu
[22:39] <Psycoshot> acemo: can you not just move stuff to your second screen and watch vlc on your first one?
[22:39] <mrunagi> why do  my ntfs drives not sit n the desktop anymore =(
[22:41] <acemo> Psycoshot: i have the 2nd screen near my bed and if i turn it 45 degrees i can watch a movie from my bed.. but with the 1st monitor i'd have to move it first.. so was hoping to get it to work on 2nd screen..
[22:41] <Psycoshot> Oh.
[22:41] <Crashed> 2nd screen is porno screen? :P
[22:41] <Psycoshot> I dont knwo then. :P
[22:41] <Psycoshot> XD
[22:42] <acemo> Crashed: nah 2nd screen is for alot of things, not just movies
[22:43] <acemo> i'd use kaffeine.. but it doesnt likes this subtitle it seems..
[22:46] <Ahmuck> what do i need for games cedega or crossover office?
[22:46] <acemo> wine
[22:46] <Ahmuck> wine won't do some windows apps
[22:46] <Psycoshot> crossover is what I use the most.
[22:46] <Ahmuck> access?
[22:46] <Ahmuck> ms access?
[22:46] <Psycoshot> It doesnt work wiht everything but what it works with it works GOOD
[22:48] <richard> random noob question: in Konsole is there a shorthand way of referring to long file names?
[22:48] <richard> like the Longfoldernamethingy becoming Longfo~1 in windows?
[22:48] <acemo> richard: tab
[22:48] <Ahmuck> yes
[22:49] <Ahmuck> some\ long\ filename
[22:49] <richard> clever..
[22:49] <Ahmuck> some\ long\ [tab]
[22:50] <Ahmuck> i always tab complete in yakuake
[22:50] <richard> ah, i like
[22:50] <richard> thanks
[22:50] <Ahmuck> np
[22:53] <acemo> when trying to open a movie with subtitles in kaffeine i get these 2 errors: http://i25.tinypic.com/jshp90.png http://i32.tinypic.com/2ni5xmf.png there are the files tlf-hofd.cd1.avi tlf-hofd.cd1.idx and tlf-hofd.cd1.sub all in the same folder what am i doing wrong?
[22:54] <Mojo_risin> hi. there is an easy way to downgrade from 3.5.9 to 3.5.8?
[22:55] <dhq> when i link a file in apache directory why doesnt the file show
[22:55] <JoshOvki> !aptfix
[22:56] <Rukus> when i enable dektop effects in KDE4, my videos play, but they are blacked out. if i move VLC around with my mouse, the video shows! but only as a imove it
[22:56] <Rukus> wtf
[22:56] <Rukus> desktop
[22:56] <Rukus> anyone help?
[22:57] <Mojo_risin> JoshOvki: aptfix?
[22:57] <jussi01> Rukus: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[22:57] <Rukus> if i disable dekstop effects, videos play fine
[22:57] <Ahmuck> JoshOvki: pcm is sound
[22:57] <mrunagi> is there a command to see if my cpu is sse3 enabled?
[22:57] <Rukus> thanks
[22:57] <JoshOvki> Mojo_risin: just testin ubutou its not responding
[22:57] <Ahmuck> JoshOvki: it's a ripped dvd?
[22:57] <Mojo_risin> JoshOvki: ok
[22:58] <JoshOvki> Ahmuck: it was Rukus
[22:58] <Ahmuck> ah, actually acemo
[22:58] <daSKreech> Are the Alpha 5 cds having issues?
[22:58] <user5> hi
[22:58] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:58] <mrunagi> !cpu
[22:58] <user5> somebody using amrok
[22:59] <Rukus> sorry what was?
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:59] <richard> !sse3
[22:59] <user5> amork bout?
[22:59] <Rukus> JoshOvki, ?
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sse3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:00] <JoshOvki> Rukus: asking the question about the video, he thought it was me
[23:01] <Rukus> ok
[23:01] <Ahmuck> user5: yes
[23:02] <Ahmuck> user5: what are you after?
[23:02] <Psycoshot> Any of you know the hardware that can put graphics on 2 monitors from one PC.
[23:02] <Psycoshot> Video splitter or something?
[23:03] <jussi01> Psycoshot: video card....
[23:03] <Psycoshot> Yeah but what if you want to hook up 2 monitors?
[23:03] <Ahmuck> two video cards or a card that does dual
[23:03] <jussi01> mine has dvi+vga+svideo
[23:03] <Dragnslcr> A lot of modern video cards have two outputs
[23:04] <Psycoshot> Mine oldddd :P
[23:04] <Psycoshot> ATI radeon 9200
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> You can probably get a VGA splitter, but you'd have the same display on two monitors
[23:04] <Psycoshot> Ok
[23:04] <Psycoshot> thats close :P
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> If you want to different displays, you'd need a video card with two outputs
[23:05] <Psycoshot> THats the only way?
[23:05] <xxBasYxx> how to restart cupsd ?
[23:05] <jussi01> Psycoshot: I have a 9250, and that has the 3 ports
[23:05] <Psycoshot> Oh, Well I have one VGA and one Digital
[23:06] <jussi01> Psycoshot: you can get dvi -> vga
[23:06] <Ahmuck> oui
[23:06] <Ahmuck> or vga to dvi
[23:06] <Psycoshot> Oh I have a VGA DVI and VID OUT
[23:07] <Psycoshot> :P
[23:07] <Dragnslcr> Then what's the problem?
[23:07] <jussi01> Psycoshot: and what do you need? 2xvga?
[23:07] <Psycoshot> Is that 3 different outputs?
[23:07] <jussi01> Psycoshot: yes
[23:07] <Psycoshot> Ohhhh
[23:07] <Psycoshot> sweet :D
[23:07] <Psycoshot> I tohught it was like one.
[23:11] <sMonk> anyone here up for a challanging problem?
[23:11] <daSKreech> Never mind
[23:12] <daSKreech> suddenly started downloading
[23:12] <crashed> Is there an apt-get search command, or something similar?
[23:12] <_amermod> apt-cache search
[23:12] <daSKreech> sMonk: Just ask
[23:12] <crashed> thanks
[23:15] <_amermod> I'm trying to troubleshoot bluetooth, anybody may help?
[23:15] <_amermod> driver is loaded
[23:15] <_amermod> firmware is - I think - up to date
[23:15] <jussi01> Does anyone know if its possible to save a document on linux as an MS office 2007 doc? (docx)
[23:15] <_amermod> but hcitool dev gives nothing
[23:16] <_amermod> I don't know where to start...
[23:16] <_amermod> see dmesg & lspci output here http://rafb.net/p/dRdndh15.html
[23:16] <jussi01> !bluetooth
[23:16] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[23:17] <karl_> i'm getting the ./configure error "configure:1782: error: C compiler cannot create executables but I have Build-essential installed"; anyone know how to remedy?
[23:17] <_amermod> ubotu: thx I almost know it by heart, at least up to "
[23:17] <_amermod>     *
[23:17] <_amermod>       hcitool output:
[23:17] <_amermod>         Devices:
[23:17] <_amermod>               hci0    00:11:95:00:1A:CF
[23:17] <crashed> Hm.
[23:17] <crashed> Anyone know how to install wxPython?
[23:17] <_amermod> because I get output "Devices:" and that's it
[23:18] <karl_> crashed: apt-get install python-wxgtk2.8
[23:18] <crashed> 2.6 you mean? :P
[23:18] <_amermod> so I guess it's a device related problem. how to investigate?
[23:19] <crashed> Already have that installed, but my wx script isn't working.
[23:19] <karl_> 2.8 is out
[23:19] <karl_> iunno how it works, just telling you
[23:19] <jussi01> !bot > _amermod
[23:19] <crashed> Okay, thanks.
[23:19] <crashed> I'll stick to using my tk version. :/
[23:20] <draik> Hello all
[23:20] <AlferedHichcok> how to make ldap network having windows (client)account folders in a linux server (openldap) so that everytime client boots. it has to auth from server?
[23:21] <karl_> that's a bit complex to describe in irc
[23:21] <karl_> google it
[23:21] <karl_> it's out there for sure
[23:22] <draik> I was looking for a new laptop (my 3rd) and saw that HP is shipping with SUSE. I have an HP laptop already. How are they nowadays with Linux compatibility?
[23:22] <mrunagi>  /j #osx86
[23:23] <Daisuke-Ido> draik: i still recommend the dellbuntu option
[23:24] <Daisuke-Ido> they make sure everything works
[23:24] <karl_> i wish they had it on the m1330 model
[23:24] <amermod_> jussi01: do you have a "!something" for troubleshooting bluetooth device? ;-)
[23:24] <draik> Daisuke-Ido: Dell makes sure it works? That's going to be a first with me and Dell.
[23:25] <jussi01> amermod_: sorry
[23:25] <Daisuke-Ido> karl_: look at their site again
[23:25] <draik> Speaking of Dell laptops, I cannot get more than 700 kB/s transfer on USB 2.0. Where should I begin to look for a resolution?
[23:25] <karl_> i'll do that now, but i'm pretty sure it isn't there
[23:25] <xxBasYxx> Hi when i start to print document from openoffice writer only 1 page was printed and after that i can't print anything else... Im on Kubuntu... How to restart cups, plz?
[23:25] <karl_> do i have to go to the dellbuntu site, or is it just an option during the configure process?
[23:25] <Daisuke-Ido> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DYCWTU1&s=dhs
[23:26] <Daisuke-Ido> that looks like an m1330 to me
[23:26] <Daisuke-Ido> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs loaded quicker for me
[23:26] <sMonk> If you like a challange, I have a problem posted here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57274/
[23:26] <karl_> awwww sweet
[23:27] <crashed> Dangit, I forgot how to configure TV Time. :(
[23:27] <karl_> i wonder how they are offering dvd playback
[23:27] <Daisuke-Ido> they're probably paying for the license
[23:27] <karl_> you think there is any real benefit to buying it with linux vs buying it with windows?
[23:28] <karl_> i can get it cheaper with more addons with windows
[23:28] <karl_> think they developed closed drivers or something?
[23:28] <Daisuke-Ido> karl_: you're not supporting windows
[23:29] <karl_> i'm not sure if that's worth the extra $200
[23:29] <Daisuke-Ido> $200?
[23:30] <Daisuke-Ido> the ubuntu 1330 STARTS $50 cheaper than the windows one
[23:30] <daSKreech> sMonk: You borked your permissions
[23:30] <karl_> yeah but if you buy the ubuntu m1330 red model it comes with 3gb ram and is cheaper
[23:31] <jussi01> !ot
[23:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:32] <Daisuke-Ido> there is no ubuntu red model, that's windows, and it IS $200 more than the ubuntu version
[23:32] <karl_> not if you plan on buying a warranty of equal value
[23:33] <karl_> what i want with 1gb ram, linux model: 1852
[23:33] <karl_> what i want with 3gb ram, red model: 1900
[23:33] <sMonk> daSKreech: what do you mean?
[23:34] <vlad> hi people
[23:34] <vlad> can i ask for help here_
[23:34] <daSKreech> sMonk: I mean you did something to mess up all your permissions
[23:34] <daSKreech> !help
[23:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:35] <daSKreech> !ask
[23:35] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:35] <sMonk> Great.. now how do I fix this
[23:35] <crashed> Hm, anyone know how to setup TV Time?
[23:35] <crashed> I've got the program running, it's just displaying a black screen.
[23:36] <vlad> when i finish my ubuntu installation my audio sounds like cutted, i got audigy se
[23:36] <vlad> how can i solve this problem_
[23:36] <karl_> i agree with you on supporting linux
[23:36] <karl_> wish it was as good of a deal
[23:36] <BluesKaj> what tvtuner card do you have , crashed ?
[23:37] <crashed> PowerView/LifeView PCI TV Tuner.
[23:37] <crashed> SAA7130 decoder
[23:37] <crashed> I had TV Time working with this same system only a week ago, but I don't remember what I did.
[23:37] <BluesKaj> do you see a input config menu ?
[23:38] <crashed> Yes
[23:39] <daSKreech> sMonk: If I could see your history file I might be able to guess if you did something wrong
[23:39] <daSKreech> Other than that it's going to be fun unravelling broken permissions
[23:39] <prince_jammys> sMonk: who is the owner/group of /dev/vboxdrv  ?
[23:40] <vlad> any suggestion with my sound problem?
[23:40] <BluesKaj> click on input till you find a pic
[23:40] <sMonk> i don't know
[23:41] <crashed> Blues: I tried that, the input is stuck on 'default'
[23:41] <prince_jammys> sMonk: do you have access to the drive?
[23:41] <prince_jammys> sMonk: are you able to view files on that drive right now?
[23:41] <sMonk> right now? no,
[23:42] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you're on the live CD?
[23:42] <sMonk> yes
[23:42] <crashed> Any idea BluesKaj?
[23:42] <BluesKaj> crashed, maybe there's linux software for your tvcard , do some searches
[23:42] <swatto> Anybody know how i can play .wmv and .mov files please?
[23:43] <crashed> TV Time used to work great...
[23:43] <crashed> Stream live TV, that's all I wanted.
[23:43] <BluesKaj> swatto, yes use VLC
[23:43] <swatto> vlc?
[23:43] <prince_jammys> sMonk: from what i've been seeing on the internet (and i know nothing about vbox) -- it seems that the problem might be that you were not a member of the group "vboxusers"
[23:43] <swatto> i can install it from synaptic?
[23:43] <BluesKaj> !vlc | swatto
[23:43] <ubotu> swatto: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[23:43] <crashed> Oh well.
[23:43] <draik> Where should I look for a resolution to fix the slow USB 2.0 transfer rate? It's no more than 700 kB/s (low-mid 600s average)
[23:43] <crashed> BluesKaj: How does VMWare work?
[23:43] <prince_jammys> sMonk: now what happened after that ... i don't know
[23:43] <crashed> I install VMWare server on this machine, then install VMWare client?
[23:43] <crashed> And run Windows?
[23:43] <sMonk> Yeah, I found that out just a min ago.. but how would setting that command cause the errors and kick me out?
[23:44] <karl_> crashed: vmware server costs $$
[23:44] <karl_> get virtualbox
[23:44] <BluesKaj> !vmware | crashed
[23:44] <ubotu> crashed: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[23:44] <karl_> i would say just do virtualbox
[23:44] <prince_jammys> sMonk: i'm not sure
[23:44] <karl_> as easy and you don't have to dick around with easyvmx
[23:45] <prince_jammys> sMonk: meaning i don't know :)
[23:45] <sMonk> ok I just found this Ubuntu log.. can some one tell me if it's worth a shot? and sum it down into normal talk    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629613
[23:45] <prince_jammys> sMonk: you need to mount the filesystem so we can look at it from the live cd
[23:45] <swatto> hmm im new to linux, how do I install it blueskaj?
[23:45] <swatto> or do you refer to just a type of media player? because i have amorak and it doesnt play on there
[23:46] <sMonk> 3/4 down the page some guy had the same problem.. he seemd to solve it on page 2.. but I don't understand.
[23:46] <swatto> ah its ok i found it blue
[23:46] <BluesKaj> swatto , first you have to do this : Open Adept Package Manager.  On the menu of that screen, click on Adept -> Manage  Repositories. Click the "Kubuntu Software" tab, check all the boxes ["X"]. The same goes for the "Third Party Software" tab. Close Adept, and then in the terminal: "sudo apt-get update" .Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[23:46] <crashed>  Couldn't find vmware-player. :/
[23:49] <sMonk> prince_jammys: ok, how do I do that?
[23:49] <crashed> I really want TV Time to work right now.
[23:52] <prince_jammys> sMonk: ok open a terminal
[23:52] <BluesKaj> crashe you don't need a tvtuner for streaming video from the internet
[23:53] <sMonk> prince_jammys: ok done, btw did you look at that link I posted? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629613 and goto page 2, it could this help?
[23:53] <sMonk> but continue
[23:53] <prince_jammys> sMonk: maybe
[23:53] <sMonk> ok
[23:53] <sMonk> terminal open
[23:53] <prince_jammys> sMonk: sudo -i
[23:53] <vlad> people
[23:53] <sMonk> ok
[23:53] <vlad> can someone help me?
[23:54] <prince_jammys> sMonk: mkdir /mnt/workspace
[23:54] <sMonk> ok
[23:54] <crashed> Hm, how do you install MythTV?
[23:54] <SlimeyPete> vlad: just ask your question. If anyone here knows the answer then they will help you :)
[23:54] <crashed> sudo apt-get install mythtv doesn't work.
[23:54] <SlimeyPete> oh right, you did ask a while ago
[23:54] <prince_jammys> fdisk -l
[23:54] <BluesKaj> crashed, if you have an antenna , cable or satellite feed then you use that input to the tvcard
[23:55] <crashed> I have a cable feed.
[23:55] <sMonk> ok
[23:55] <prince_jammys> sMonk: do you see your disk?
[23:55] <crashed> What is 'that' input?
[23:55] <BluesKaj> Mythtv is complicated and difficult to setup , goto #mythtv for help
[23:55] <sMonk> I have 2 disks.. one with the system on it, the other disk has my /home folder
[23:55] <Scorpion54> the cable or satellite
[23:56] <BluesKaj> tvtuner card input
[23:56] <prince_jammys> sMonk: can you tell which /dev is which?
[23:56] <sMonk> yes
[23:56] <BluesKaj> anyway it's tv time for me and wifey , BBL
[23:56] <karl_> sMonk you need to edit your fstab folder and make it mount the home partition to /home
[23:56] <karl_> fstab file, rather
[23:57] <sMonk> ok..
[23:57] <prince_jammys> sMonk: what is the /dev/xxxx for you root partition?
[23:57] <sMonk> it's /dev/sda1
[23:58] <sMonk> home folder is /dev/hdb2
[23:58] <prince_jammys> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/workspace
[23:58] <sMonk> done
[23:58] <prince_jammys> sMonk: mkdir /mnt/workhome
[23:58] <karl_> then just look in /mnt/workspace
[23:59] <sMonk> ok
[23:59] <prince_jammys> sMonk: mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/workhome
[23:59] <sMonk> done