[00:02] <troy_s> hbons: No idea.  Well beyond my guesswork.
[00:03] <troy_s> hbons: I believe that the Fela Kuti wallpaper has a _lot_ going for it.
[00:03] <hbons> yeah, it's very cool
[00:03] <troy_s> hbons: 1) It steps us in the right direction away from the absolutely amateur monochromatic rubbish we have been seeing.
[00:03] <hbons> much better indeed
[00:03] <troy_s> hbons: 2) It is a deft application of artistry (Ash did a good job)
[00:04] <hbons> is there a deadline for art packaging?
[00:04] <troy_s> hbons: 3) It is at least a _step_ in the right direction regarding content -- a migration away from the overly fearful and completely abstract 'blah' wallpapers.
[00:05] <troy_s> hbons: And yes, there is a deadline, but I think that kwwii could probably apply 'tweaks' on the given packages assuming they are settled.
[00:05] <hbons> i'd like to propose this one as an alternative icon set, like Tangerine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Discovery
[00:05] <hbons> i think it goed well with the Fela Kuti wallpaper;)
[01:11] <troy_s> hbons: Have you been working on anything?
[01:11] <hbons> troy_s: only icons
[01:11] <troy_s> hbons: Is discovery yours?
[01:11] <hbons> yeah
[01:11] <troy_s> hbons: Oh how interesting.
[01:12] <troy_s> hbons: Have you created any icons outside of the Tango style?
[01:12] <hbons> not very much
[01:13] <hbons> but i think i could:)
[01:13] <troy_s> hbons: Do you have a link with more of your bits online?
[01:15] <hbons> troy_s: well there's my blog http://bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/(but most images don't work at the moment) and http://hbons.deviantart.com/ not very much
[13:34] <mohbana> hey guys
[13:35] <mohbana> anyone here?
[14:00] <mohbana> please use my name when texting back
[14:01] <mohbana> thanks
[15:45] <troy_s> mohbana: What's up?
[15:46] <mohbana> troy_s, what hex does ubuntu does for that orange?
[15:46] <troy_s> mohbana: That should all be on the wiki
[15:46] <mohbana> do you have the ling?
[15:46] <mohbana> king
[15:46] <mohbana> link lol
[15:46] <troy_s> mohbana: Bear in mind that the colour is a logo colour.
[21:24] <ArthurArchnix> hiya... I've just spent the last six hours making a custom theme, but I've only managed to do the 48x48 folder. I was wondering how you guys scale this down. I'm hoping there's a program that will recursively scan a directory, resize pngs, ignore symlinks.... and so on. Is there such a magical creature?
[21:25] <ArthurArchnix> Oh, and by making, I mean taking all my fav's and putting them into one. :P
[21:25] <nothlit> grr, the wiki is full of clutter
[21:26] <nothlit> there is a set of icon naming utils from tango
[21:26] <nothlit> you need to optimise the smaller sizes by hand depending on the ratio
[21:28] <ArthurArchnix> Oh yeah...? I was thinking of just using convert or this alpha program here called phatch, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=466598
[21:34] <nothlit> ArthurArchnix: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines#Sizes
[21:39] <ArthurArchnix> Reading through it now nothlit, thanks for that link. I started by copying the human icon theme. I like the human theme, but I wanted to sub in my own icons for some things, like folders and apps. Net status. Battery. Etc. Reading that link, it seems like I can maybe delete some of the more obscure folders. Like maybe delete the 8x8 entirely from the theme. I'm also checking out that naming script... but man do I wis
[21:44] <nothlit> your words were cut off as 'man do I wis'
[21:45] <nothlit> yeah, i get lazy and delete raster sizes from a duplicated folder and rely on the svg for personal quick edits as well
[21:59] <ArthurArchnix> ok... just fyi, phatch rocks my socks. Thanks for the links nothlit.
[22:07] <ArthurArchnix> One more question... for now ( :)  ), I've rename the theme in the index.theme file, removed all the folders I'm not using (e.g., scale). Once I create a tar.gz and drop it into the theme manager in ubuntu it's not gonna mess up my default human theme is it? My first try at this yesterday required a sudo apt-get remove --purge human-icons && apt-get install human-icons --purge. I can't remember the exact command. But
[22:08] <nothlit> no
[22:09] <nothlit> dropping it in
[22:09] <nothlit> is basically extracting it into ~/.icons/
[22:09] <nothlit> you can do that manually as well
[22:09] <ArthurArchnix> Probably safer then, to copy it in manually.
[22:15] <ArthurArchnix> ahh... I see what you mean now about optimizing the smaller sizes... you mean physically editing the icons so they make sense at smaller sizes.... yeah. Well, that's the trick isn't it? I mean, I'm an academic not an artist, but I have fun coming up with my own personalized icons scheme. But then, creating the smaller versions is a little (read: way, way) beyond my skillset. I don't mind though. I think the human the
[22:16] <ArthurArchnix> phatch created this barely recognizable icons at 12x12. :) But still, what a great program.
[22:25] <ArthurArchnix> If I delete icon.cache will it be recreated automagically?
[22:38] <nothlit> if in doubt, move instead or make a backup
[22:49] <troy_s> nothlit: Apparently ArthurArchnix and the other phatch guys don't know about imagemagick.
[22:54] <nothlit> troy_s: it doesn't use a backend?
[22:54] <troy_s> nothlit: I can only assume it does... I don't know how you get any simpler than the actual program however.
[22:55] <troy_s> nothlit: Mind you, just looking, Ubuntu's imagemagick is hideously out of date.
[22:55] <troy_s> nothlit: Sad really.
[22:55] <nothlit> imagemagick is difficult for people without cli experience to use, that would be part of the reason graphicsmagick exists to begin with
[22:56] <nothlit> but its incredible to have all those algorithms :)
[22:56] <nothlit> btw: to anyone listening, sinc and lanczos are the best for downsizing without moire
[22:57] <troy_s> nothlit: You can script a stair interpolation relatively quickly too.