[00:53] whats going on tonigh [00:53] tonight [00:57] i just changed my mythbuntu to weekly builds, and now alot of the modules dont work, do i have to rebuild all of them or is there a way to change the apt sources to redownload them? [01:16] are there known problems with nforce motherboard and mythbuntu [01:16] ? [01:17] it seems to not reognise my ethernet card [01:18] also there seem to be no modules at all [01:20] ok, why is the current mythbuntu shipped with modules for 2.6.22 and the kernel is 2.6.18? [01:21] huhlig, the kernel isn't 2.6.18 [01:21] gutsy uses 2.6.22 [01:21] ok [01:22] I just grabbed the cd and installed it [01:22] it has a kernel of 2.6.18-chw-13 [01:22] uname -a [01:22] the modules dir is 2.6.22-14-generic [01:22] so simple question, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot [01:23] thats pretty interesting [01:23] this alsa problem is driving me insane [01:23] since the generic kernel is the one that is shipped [01:23] where did you grab the iso from? [01:23] http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso [01:24] yesterday [01:24] interesting [01:24] I'll install it in a VM just to be sure [01:24] But i'm 99.99999% positive that .22 is shipped [01:24] i'm not even exactly sure how the 2.6.18 kernel would be grabbed [01:24] tgm4883_laptop, well that would make sense [01:25] but I have no working modules [01:25] and that means no network or video, etc [01:25] is there a known working cd? [01:25] did you md5sum the cd? [01:25] I can [01:25] one second [01:25] i think mythbuntu might be rejecting incoming connections... and it might be the cause of all my problems [01:26] confusedguy, it probably is [01:26] confusedguy, although, you haven't told us what the problem is [01:26] i had a friend suggest that i try to use telnet [01:26] the problem is that nothing is connecting to the server [01:27] and like i said last night... ive done tons of research [01:27] have you tried ssh [01:28] no not yet. just a sec [01:29] ok i just tried that it says network is unreachable [01:29] what computer are you trying that from? [01:29] the FE [01:30] and what machine are you trying to get to? [01:30] tgm4883_laptop, testing sum now [01:30] tgm4883_ sum passed [01:30] imn trying to get to the BE from the FE [01:31] confusedguy, can you pastebin the output of ifconfig [01:31] now i just tried to ssh into BE from the BE and it worked fine [01:31] it sounds like your FE doesn't have a network connection [01:31] huhlig, let me install a VM, it's going to take me a few minutes though. I need to put my desktop back together [01:32] has anyone here using the weekly builds? [01:32] tgm4883_laptop, ok [01:32] tgm4883_laptop, just letting you know [01:33] ok, oddly enough the FE did lose the connection [01:33] but it had it before [01:34] last night when i was having these issues, i was in this channel from the FE [01:34] confusedguy, can you reconnect the frontend and try the ssh [01:35] im just restarting the FE. it needed it anyway. [01:41] alright. i got the FE reconnected, and it recognizes the BE with ssh , but it says authentication denuied [01:41] ive got the right password [01:42] confusedguy, what is the username of the user on the backend? [01:42] and what is the username of the user on the FE [01:42] well right now im in the livecd [01:42] huhlig, still installing vmware-server I got slow internet here :( [01:42] ah [01:42] confusedguy, do this [01:43] ssh -l [01:43] tgm4883_laptop, ok [01:43] ok [01:44] ok tgm, im in [01:45] sweet [01:45] so it works now? [01:45] ssh works.. idk bout anything else. [01:46] Well what other problems are there? [01:47] ok... i tried connecting and the sql test turned up failure [01:48] ok [01:48] confusedguy, on the backend end, open up MCC [01:48] and see if the mysql service is enabled [01:49] it is trust me ive checked that 50 times [01:50] and you have rebooted the backend? [01:54] huhlig, installling now [01:54] ok [01:55] ill reboot the backend [02:00] tgm4883_laptop, so, what is the installer using? [02:06] installer is using 2.6.22-14 [02:07] ok, so how on earth did I get 2.6.18 [02:08] * tgm4883_laptop shrugs [02:08] it is really strange [02:08] did you install and reboot? [02:08] this was a clean install? [02:08] still installing [02:08] tgm4883_laptop, yea [02:08] completely fresh [02:08] blank drives [02:10] if so then just tell me where to get the copy you got and I will install it [02:11] i got mine same place, from the mythbuntu.org website [02:12] hmm [02:12] perhaps try reinstalling from the same disk and see if you get the same result [02:13] I did [02:13] 3 times [02:13] same procedure [02:13] * huhlig plugs in an external monitor [02:14] installs it [02:14] did you try redownloading? [02:14] origionally [02:15] * huhlig downloads a new copy [02:15] where are you from? [02:16] california [02:17] * huhlig downloads a new copy [02:17] foxbuntu___, !!! [02:18] huhlig, and it gave you the same problem on each install? [02:18] yea [02:18] wron kernel version [02:36] tgm4883_laptop, and, [02:38] sec [02:45] huhlig, same [02:46] so it has 2.6.22? [02:50] sweet i think i figured out how to fix my sound issue, i thinking the delay is from my reciever changeing modes [02:50] no i just goning to set a .asoundrc to something static [02:52] huhlig, yep [02:52] 2.6.22 [02:59] ok so back to square 1 guys.. i reinstalled the backend and got the livecd loaded up on the FE since the FE wont install [03:00] you do realize i said restart the BE, not reinstall the BE [03:02] i did but nothing worked and irememberd i messed with some stuff, so i thought it best to just make sure i got to a point where i could safely say i hadntt done anything wrong yet. [03:04] i'm very frustrated at this point, and i wish i could just get something to work right. [03:04] ok [03:04] so you have enabled the mysql service on the backend? [03:05] yes, i did that in the install and verified once i rebooted the BE [03:05] ok [03:05] tgm4883_laptop, one thing [03:05] have you run mythtv-setup yet? [03:05] would the safe graphics mode have cause the kernel problem [03:06] yesi ran mythtv setup at the last step of install process [03:06] huhlig, no [03:06] ok [03:06] burning a new copy now [03:06] confusedguy, what happens when you run the test from the frontend [03:07] what test is that? [03:07] the test in MCC that checks conectivity to the backend [03:07] um.. [03:08] sweet, fixed all audio issues [03:08] I cant find a test in MCC [03:10] sec [03:10] k [03:10] confusedguy, fire up MCC [03:10] its up [03:11] one of the tabs lets you enter mythtv-setup, it also allows you to input your backend information [03:11] this is on the FE that you are doing this [03:11] should be like the 2nd or 3rd tab [03:11] k [03:11] did you find where you can enter your backend info? [03:12] i see it but its greyed out [03:12] ok [03:12] booting a new copy now [03:13] hey tgm4883_laptop is there anyway to setup mdadm inside the installer [03:13] i think its because the roles on the livecd are set default to have a master backend so im removing it to no backend [03:14] ok i was right... and the test says failure [03:15] so when i did the install i set a mysql root password just like it said [03:16] so im using that password, the mythconverg database name, the ip address of the server, and ive tried root, mythtv, and mythserver-01 as the usernames [03:17] ok [03:18] is all that correct? [03:18] huhlig, afaik, no. You might be able to set it up in the live env before you install though [03:18] confusedguy, on the backend, do [03:18] nano /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt [03:18] use the username and the password that are there [03:19] also, where did it tell you to setup a mysql root password? [03:19] in the advanced setup, i slected mstr backend only, and it said if i wanted to have others connect to the system it needed a mysql root passowrd [03:20] ok [03:20] so why does it ask me for one when it still generates the random crap password? dangit [03:20] because one is the root password for mysql, and one is the password for the mythconverg db [03:21] try the user and password from that file and see if it connects now [03:21] k sec... im on a kvm switch [03:22] OMG i did that before and t dint work but now it does you are a god [03:22] it says successful [03:22] now ill test to see if the FE works ok [03:23] well i wouldn't say god, but since you said it I guess it's ok ;) [03:26] lol hey its actually loading.. never thought id be so happy to see the slow prescaling theme images bars [03:27] wow man it really works [03:28] now if i could only get the istaller to put it on the machine [03:28] err, sound broke again damn alsa [03:28] theres no way i can convince the fam that its good to use this if they have to wait 2+ min for the load [03:29] what say you next, o wise one? [03:33] confusedguy, why doesn't it install? [03:33] confusedguy, it will load faster from the HD for a couple reasons [03:34] 1st, the HD is way faster than the CD [03:34] i know that i know [03:34] 2nd, it will have everything already cached [03:34] yes [03:34] but why wont it install [03:34] it gets to around 85% and then it crashes [03:35] says the installer encountered an error and i should submit a bug report or somethin [03:35] sec [03:35] k [03:38] 85% or 83% [03:38] i dont remember for sure [03:38] should i run it through again? [03:39] sec [03:39] i think it was prolly 83 [03:39] could it be [03:39] !bug 178987 [03:39] bah [03:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/178987 [03:39] could it be this ? [03:40] looking now.. [03:41] not really... it doesnt hang, it literally stops [03:41] actually, can you try it again. It might have been because of the wrong password being inserted during install [03:42] I remember superm1 saying something about that being an issue [03:42] so be sure to use the password from the /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt file [03:42] o u think it coulda been... thats possible i guess. afterall, it was in the portion that said configuring mythtv [03:44] yea, i really do think that was the problem === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh [03:47] alright. im installing agian. the connection test in the setup script showed sucessful, and the backend is running, so prayin that this works. [03:47] luckily, a full install only takes like 5 minutes, so it wont be long [03:47] well i'm off to grab some dinner, back in about 20 [03:48] ok its at 50% now [03:50] YAH ! its at 92 %!!! [03:54] o its rebooting [04:00] back [04:01] you are awesome [04:02] I aim to please ;) [04:02] i dont know why that didnt work before when i tried it, but if it werent for you, i might not have ever tried it agiann [04:02] it's not so much awesomeness, it's just that i have reinstalled so many times that i know what i'm doing and know what things to look for [04:03] im starting to get that experience too :) [04:03] ive installed some myth based distro or another at least 20 times now trying to get a solution [04:04] hey ive got a few more little things now you might be able to help with... [04:05] ok [04:05] shoot [04:05] 1) when i "watch tv" the picture seems a little bit ... [04:05] oh yeah nvm... the screen isnt set at right res. [04:05] alright fixed that one. [04:06] next... i've got no audio on my tv [04:07] well right now its pc speakers, & monitor, but im not getting audio is th important part. [04:07] arrrrrgh [04:07] with the new copy it wonr boot [04:07] it just freezes at lilo [04:10] u there tgm? [04:14] back [04:14] sorry, doing multiple things right now [04:15] confusedguy, is there audio outside of mythtv? [04:15] np at all you're the one doing the helping. [04:15] u know im not sure [04:18] ok i really will slap myself if this is the only problem... [04:18] i've had the speakers plugged into the BE the whole time, not the FE [04:21] hm a new problem. [04:21] when i click watch tv it goes to black screen for 5 sec and then goes to menu [04:21] when a bit ago it worked fine [04:31] hmm [04:31] confusedguy, what tuner? [04:33] hauppage wintv 44001 rev b110 [04:34] the thing is, it worked fine. but then i went to it later and tv froze up. I had to force kill the gui so that i could restart it [04:34] i think the problem is that theres prolly still other instances of the program running [04:35] but i also cant have the tv freezing up. [04:38] what are your frontend specs? [04:39] um amd sempron 2.2Ghz, 1gb ram [04:40] geforce 5200fx [04:40] hmm [04:41] so yeah i jsut restarted frontend [04:41] it still has the problem [04:41] i think the backend is at fault now [04:41] you'd have to restart the backend [04:41] just [04:41] sudo /etc/init.d/mythtvbackend restart [04:43] mythserver-01@mythserver-01:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart [04:43] Restarting MythTV server: mythbackend No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed. [04:44] interesting tho, because it is running [04:44] i can access the system fine [04:44] from the FE [04:45] i know a hard restart of the server would fix it [04:45] but... i cant hard restart the comp every 20 minutes [04:46] brb ima reset the server [04:46] we'll see how it goes after that [04:52] hum there is 0k free on my drive and myth is wiggin out [04:53] 2008-02-23 22:49:02.102 TFW, Error: safe_write(): File I/O errcnt: 1 [04:53] eno: No space left on device (28) [04:53] 2008-02-23 22:49:02.111 TFW: safe_write(): funky usleep [04:53] npurciful: what do you expect myth to do when there is no space? [04:53] ugh, expire recording [04:54] that's a different problem. :-) [04:54] if you go into information centre and look at the expiry list, is there anything in it? [04:55] mythbackend --printexpire [04:56] yes there is [04:56] what did you set as the minimum free space before doing expiration? [04:58] alright [04:59] im back [04:59] as i said, it did fix the problem. for now anyway. [04:59] 5gb [04:59] i did verify that there is audio, and even inside of myth, but... not when watching tv [05:01] u here tgm4883_laptop? [05:01] argh [05:01] 8.1 has squash errors [05:02] 7.1 still wont work [05:04] this is anoying [05:05] im here [05:06] ok [05:06] mabey you can explain this one [05:06] SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x227a [05:06] verified both the iso vs the md5hash and the burn [05:07] and on the new version of 7.1 I get it installed and it gets to lilo and stops [05:07] hugolp, lilo or grub? [05:07] lessconfusedguy, run alsamixer from the command line and unmute everything [05:08] tgm4883_laptop, hugolp or me? [05:09] huh [05:09] you on the lilo question [05:09] lilo [05:10] Shred01: hey i just delete the recording that was recording on disk1 (gave me 438MB) and set extradisk space to 10GB and it autoexpired and i have 12gb free on disk2 but 438mb on disk1 [05:10] is it possible to install with grub [05:11] i had 2 recordings going on on each drive [05:12] interesting [05:12] i'm not sure why lilo is showing up [05:12] as grub is default [05:12] how do i know whats muted [05:12] and what i need to unmute [05:12] hmm [05:12] I will try again [05:14] lessconfusedguy, open it up, and we will mute it from there [05:14] open what? alsamixer? its open [05:15] unmute everything [05:15] so what, max the volume on all the columns? [05:17] is that what i should do? [05:17] lessconfusedguy, to unmute stuff in alsamixer you hit 'M" [05:18] oh sorry whoops [05:21] ok i did that [05:22] still no audio from tv, but other audio is ungodly loud [05:22] lessconfusedguy, the bottom of the collums sound be '00' [05:23] yeah they are now [05:24] well shoot i gotta go for the evening. thank ya gents for all the help. [05:24] ill be back tomorrow no doubt [05:28] tgm4883_laptop, I am trying with the 7.1 disc again [05:33] squashfs errors [05:33] this means a bad cd or drive right [06:06] Quick Question, where can I find a list of supported remote controls for Mythbuntu 7.10? [06:07] MythbuntuGuest79, aything lirc currently supports, we support [06:07] anything* [06:13] Thank You! === foxbuntu___ is now known as foxbuntu [07:42] man, this suck, trying to figure out how i fixed a issue with sound and my reciever [10:13] hm, the trunk build appears to be buggered === mindframe- is now known as mindframe === mindframe_ is now known as mindframe [13:55] Can anyone point me to a doc on how to config mythtv to take the audio from a TV card via the line in on the main sound card? [15:31] if the TV card has no audio of its own, then just configure the line in as your primary recording source [15:32] unless you mean you want to know how to *connect* this signal, in which case... um, good luck doing that in software [15:40] adaptr: I was wondering how to get mythbuntu to take it from the line-in. I can't the option [15:40] can't see * [15:41] sigh... [15:41] The really annoying thing is that the audio device for the TV card is showing up in /proc/asound/cards [15:42] Will try and jab at it a bit more and see if I get somewhere [15:43] I'm wondering if there's any script for easily inputting meta data for stored TV shows. The IMDB script is excellent for movies but there doesn't seem to be any convenient way to enter TV show data [15:45] MythTV Setup -> Input Connections, was that so hard to find davisc ? [15:47] No mention of audio. But anyway, it doesn't matter. I'll figure it out myself [15:48] oh, well, okay - it doesn't mention anything on my box, but then I don't do TV :) [15:48] I wonder how difficult it'd be to code an input form of sorts using Zenity === sheva is now known as camden [19:24] hi [19:25] i'm a bit overwhelemed... i installed mythbuntu and i have a pinnacle tuner connected to the usb port [19:25] but i can't figure out how to test the tuner [19:25] and then continue to get mythbuntu set up [19:25] i keep going through the back-end setup [19:25] and it seems to detect the tuner [19:26] but i can't figure out how to actually see a signal coming in [19:29] if i try "watch tv" and try to watch "live tv" from the front end [19:29] it says i need to delete an in-progress recording [19:29] but i don't have any in-progress recording [19:29] i never set up any recordings... i am just setting this up for the first time :( [19:31] hi [19:31] i'm trying to just get set up [19:31] for the first time [19:31] and i can't get to the point where i can watch live tv [19:31] just to see if my tuner is working [19:32] it says i need to delete an in-progress recording but i don't have any in-progress recording i never set up any recordings... i am just setting this up for the first time [19:56] camden, see if anything has your tuner device open [20:28] * npurciful bangs head into keyboard [20:28] superm1: you there? [20:30] no [20:30] :) [20:33] okay [20:34] hey i saw a post where your sound was screwed up via spdif [20:34] no pcm via spdif [20:35] okay [20:36] yeah, i just had that problem, to fix it i had to boot to livecd and cp /var/lib/alsa/asound.state then it worked again [20:39] man if i could just get my reciever to stop switching modes i would be happy, on everysong change or commercial skip fastforward, etc my reciver changes modes and there is a 1.5sec of no sound [20:39] cant remember how i fixed last time [20:40] i have tryed about 30 .asoundrc 's [20:52] Hi, how does mythbuntu handle auto-login? I was just wondering because the effect I want to get is to have mythtv be the 'desktop' for my user. so when I close mythtv, it closes X, then say, 10 seconds later, starts up mythtv again [20:52] basically, this system will never be a regular desktop, so there's no reason to ever see the desktop environment [20:56] auto-login is simply an option you click [20:56] but restarting the frontend is not automatic - why not make it impossible to leave ? [20:56] much the saner solution [20:59] Hmmm... Before (debian) I was using ummm... rungetty [20:59] so rungetty started the X server, and then my user had a .profile which started the WM and then exec'd mythtv [21:00] that was actually a rather elegant solution (I could restart mythtv frontend if it was necessary) [21:00] that's...stupid, sice everything already is running, and you are already logged in [21:00] "elegant" wouldn't be my choice of words for it :) [21:00] all you need to ensure is that either mythfrontend restarts auto, or it never stops [21:01] there's a bit on the wiki about using a remote button to exit and restart the frontend, with a 3-line script [21:01] that way you NEVER need to see the desktop [21:01] you can even disable the WM [21:01] why would you want to start a WM to begin with, anyway ? [21:01] well I need the WM for mythvideo [21:03] technically, all I WANT is mythvideo (really don't need mythtv just yet as I'm switching to hdtv soon and where I am, you have to use stupid converter boxes for HDTV (unless you want to go over the air, which I don't) [21:03] so, I like the interface of mythtv, but I don't really need it as a PVR, what I really wanted to build was a media 'extender' I guess is what you'd call it? [21:04] to play videos etc off my file server, on the TV [21:04]