[00:53] <npurciful> whats going on tonigh
[00:53] <npurciful> tonight
[00:57] <egghead3> i just changed my mythbuntu to weekly builds, and now alot of the modules dont work, do i have to rebuild all of them or is there a way to change the apt sources to redownload them?
[01:16] <huhlig> are there known problems with nforce motherboard and mythbuntu
[01:16] <huhlig> ?
[01:17] <huhlig> it seems to not reognise my ethernet card
[01:18] <huhlig> also there seem to be no modules at all
[01:20] <huhlig> ok, why is the current mythbuntu shipped with modules for 2.6.22 and the kernel is 2.6.18?
[01:21] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, the kernel isn't 2.6.18
[01:21] <tgm4883_laptop> gutsy uses 2.6.22
[01:21] <huhlig> ok
[01:22] <huhlig> I just grabbed the cd and installed it
[01:22] <huhlig> it has a kernel of 2.6.18-chw-13
[01:22] <huhlig> uname -a
[01:22] <huhlig> the modules dir is 2.6.22-14-generic
[01:22] <huhlig> so simple question, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> thats pretty interesting
[01:23] <npurciful> this alsa problem is driving me insane
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> since the generic kernel is the one that is shipped
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> where did you grab the iso from?
[01:23] <huhlig> http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso
[01:24] <huhlig> yesterday
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> I'll install it in a VM just to be sure
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> But i'm 99.99999% positive that .22 is shipped
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm not even exactly sure how the 2.6.18 kernel would be grabbed
[01:24] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, well that would make sense
[01:25] <huhlig> but I have no working modules
[01:25] <huhlig> and that means no network or video, etc
[01:25] <huhlig> is there a known working cd?
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> did you md5sum the cd?
[01:25] <huhlig> I can
[01:25] <huhlig> one second
[01:25] <confusedguy> i think mythbuntu might be rejecting incoming connections... and it might be the cause of all my problems
[01:26] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, it probably is
[01:26] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, although, you haven't told us what the problem is
[01:26] <confusedguy> i had a friend suggest that i try to use telnet <server ip here>
[01:26] <confusedguy> the problem is that nothing is connecting to the server
[01:27] <confusedguy> and like i said last night... ive done tons of research
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> have you tried ssh <server ip here>
[01:28] <confusedguy> no not yet. just a sec
[01:29] <confusedguy> ok i just tried that it says network is unreachable
[01:29] <tgm4883_laptop> what computer are you trying that from?
[01:29] <confusedguy> the FE
[01:30] <tgm4883_laptop> and what machine are you trying to get to?
[01:30] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, testing sum now
[01:30] <huhlig> tgm4883_ sum passed
[01:30] <confusedguy> imn trying to get to the BE from the FE
[01:31] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, can you pastebin the output of ifconfig
[01:31] <confusedguy> now i just tried to ssh into BE from the BE and it worked fine
[01:31] <tgm4883_laptop> it sounds like your FE doesn't have a network connection
[01:31] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, let me install a VM, it's going to take me a few minutes though.  I need to put my desktop back together
[01:32] <egghead3> has anyone here using the weekly builds?
[01:32] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, ok
[01:32] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, just letting you know
[01:33] <confusedguy> ok, oddly enough the FE did lose the connection
[01:33] <confusedguy> but it had it before
[01:34] <confusedguy> last night when i was having these issues, i was in this channel from the FE
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, can you reconnect the frontend and try the ssh <backend ip here>
[01:35] <confusedguy> im just restarting the FE. it needed it anyway.
[01:41] <confusedguy> alright. i got the FE reconnected, and it recognizes the BE with ssh <BE ip>, but it says authentication denuied
[01:41] <confusedguy> ive got the right password
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, what is the username of the user on the backend?
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> and what is the username of the user on the FE
[01:42] <confusedguy> well right now im in the livecd
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, still installing vmware-server I got slow internet here :(
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[01:42] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, do this
[01:43] <tgm4883_laptop> ssh <backend ip> -l <backend username>
[01:43] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, ok
[01:43] <confusedguy> ok
[01:44] <confusedguy> ok tgm, im in
[01:45] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[01:45] <tgm4883_laptop> so it works now?
[01:45] <confusedguy> ssh works.. idk bout anything else.
[01:46] <tgm4883_laptop> Well what other problems are there?
[01:47] <confusedguy> ok... i tried connecting and the sql test turned up failure
[01:48] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[01:48] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, on the backend end, open up MCC
[01:48] <tgm4883_laptop> and see if the mysql service is enabled
[01:49] <confusedguy> it is trust me ive checked that 50 times
[01:50] <tgm4883_laptop> and you have rebooted the backend?
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, installling now
[01:54] <huhlig> ok
[01:55] <confusedguy> ill reboot the backend
[02:00] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, so, what is the installer using?
[02:06] <tgm4883_laptop> installer is using 2.6.22-14
[02:07] <huhlig> ok, so how on earth did I get 2.6.18
[02:08]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> it is really strange
[02:08] <huhlig> did you install and reboot?
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> this was a clean install?
[02:08] <tgm4883_laptop> still installing
[02:08] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, yea
[02:08] <huhlig> completely fresh
[02:08] <huhlig> blank drives
[02:10] <huhlig> if so then just tell me where to get the copy you got and I will install it
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> i got mine same place, from the mythbuntu.org website
[02:12] <huhlig> hmm
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> perhaps try reinstalling from the same disk and see if you get the same result
[02:13] <huhlig> I did
[02:13] <huhlig> 3 times
[02:13] <huhlig> same procedure
[02:13]  * huhlig plugs in an external monitor
[02:14] <huhlig> installs it
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> did you try redownloading?
[02:14] <huhlig> origionally
[02:15]  * huhlig downloads a new copy
[02:15] <tgm4883_laptop> where are you from?
[02:16] <huhlig> california
[02:17]  * huhlig downloads a new copy
[02:17] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu___, !!!
[02:18] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, and it gave you the same problem on each install?
[02:18] <huhlig> yea
[02:18] <huhlig> wron kernel version
[02:36] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, and,
[02:38] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:45] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, same
[02:46] <huhlig> so it has 2.6.22?
[02:50] <npurciful> sweet i think i figured out how to fix my sound issue, i thinking the delay is from my reciever changeing modes
[02:50] <npurciful> no i just goning to set a .asoundrc to something static
[02:52] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, yep
[02:52] <tgm4883_laptop> 2.6.22
[02:59] <confusedguy> ok so back to square 1 guys.. i reinstalled the backend and got the livecd loaded up on the FE since the FE wont install
[03:00] <tgm4883_laptop> you do realize i said restart the BE, not reinstall the BE
[03:02] <confusedguy> i did but nothing worked and irememberd i messed with some stuff, so i thought it best to just make sure i got to a point where i could safely say i hadntt done anything wrong yet.
[03:04] <confusedguy> i'm very frustrated at this point, and i wish i could just get something to work right.
[03:04] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:04] <tgm4883_laptop> so you have enabled the mysql service on the backend?
[03:05] <confusedguy> yes, i did that in the install and verified once i rebooted the BE
[03:05] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:05] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, one thing
[03:05] <tgm4883_laptop> have you run mythtv-setup yet?
[03:05] <huhlig> would the safe graphics mode have cause the kernel problem
[03:06] <confusedguy> yesi ran mythtv setup at the last step of install process
[03:06] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, no
[03:06] <huhlig> ok
[03:06] <huhlig> burning a new copy now
[03:06] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, what happens when you run the test from the frontend
[03:07] <confusedguy> what test is that?
[03:07] <tgm4883_laptop> the test in MCC that checks conectivity to the backend
[03:07] <confusedguy> um..
[03:08] <npurciful> sweet, fixed all audio issues
[03:08] <confusedguy> I cant find a test in MCC
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[03:10] <confusedguy> k
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, fire up MCC
[03:10] <confusedguy> its up
[03:11] <tgm4883_laptop> one of the tabs lets you enter mythtv-setup, it also allows you to input your backend information
[03:11] <tgm4883_laptop> this is on the FE that you are doing this
[03:11] <tgm4883_laptop> should be like the 2nd or 3rd tab
[03:11] <confusedguy> k
[03:11] <tgm4883_laptop> did you find where you can enter your backend info?
[03:12] <confusedguy> i see it but its greyed out
[03:12] <huhlig> ok
[03:12] <huhlig> booting a new copy now
[03:13] <huhlig> hey tgm4883_laptop is there anyway to setup mdadm inside the installer
[03:13] <confusedguy> i think its because the roles on the livecd are set default to have a master backend so im removing it to no backend
[03:14] <confusedguy> ok i was right... and the test says failure
[03:15] <confusedguy> so when i did the install i set a mysql root password just like it said
[03:16] <confusedguy> so im using that password, the mythconverg database name, the ip address of the server, and ive tried root, mythtv, and mythserver-01 as the usernames
[03:17] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:18] <confusedguy> is all that correct?
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> huhlig, afaik, no.  You might be able to set it up in the live env before you install though
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, on the backend, do
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> nano /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> use the username and the password that are there
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> also, where did it tell you to setup a mysql root password?
[03:19] <confusedguy> in the advanced setup, i slected mstr backend only, and it said if i wanted to have others connect to the system it needed a mysql root passowrd
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:20] <confusedguy> so why does it ask me for one when it still generates the random crap password? dangit
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> because one is the root password for mysql, and one is the password for the mythconverg db
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> try the user and password from that file and see if it connects now
[03:21] <confusedguy> k sec... im on a kvm switch
[03:22] <confusedguy> OMG i did that before and t dint work but now it does you are a god
[03:22] <confusedguy> it says successful
[03:22] <confusedguy> now ill test to see if the FE works ok
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> well i wouldn't say god, but since you said it I guess it's ok ;)
[03:26] <confusedguy> lol hey its actually loading.. never thought id be so happy to see the slow prescaling theme images bars
[03:27] <confusedguy> wow man it really works
[03:28] <confusedguy> now if i could only get the istaller to put it on the machine
[03:28] <npurciful> err, sound broke again damn alsa
[03:28] <confusedguy> theres no way i can convince the fam that its good to use this if they have to wait 2+ min for the load
[03:29] <confusedguy> what say you next, o wise one?
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, why doesn't it install?
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, it will load faster from the HD for a couple reasons
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> 1st, the HD is way faster than the CD
[03:34] <confusedguy> i know that i know
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> 2nd, it will have everything already cached
[03:34] <confusedguy> yes
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> but why wont it install
[03:34] <confusedguy> it gets to around 85% and then it crashes
[03:35] <confusedguy> says the installer encountered an error and i should submit a bug report or somethin
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[03:35] <confusedguy> k
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> 85% or 83%
[03:38] <confusedguy> i dont remember for sure
[03:38] <confusedguy> should i run it through again?
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[03:39] <confusedguy> i think it was prolly 83
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> could it be
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> !bug 178987
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> bah
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/178987
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> could it be this ?
[03:40] <confusedguy> looking now..
[03:41] <confusedguy> not really... it doesnt hang, it literally stops
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> actually, can you try it again.  It might have been because of the wrong password being inserted during install
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> I remember superm1 saying something about that being an issue
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> so be sure to use the password from the /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt file
[03:42] <confusedguy> o u think it coulda been... thats possible i guess. afterall, it was in the portion that said configuring mythtv
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, i really do think that was the problem
[03:47] <confusedguy> alright. im installing agian. the connection test in the setup script showed sucessful, and the backend is running, so prayin that this works.
[03:47] <confusedguy> luckily, a full install only takes like 5 minutes, so it wont be long
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> well i'm off to grab some dinner, back in about 20
[03:48] <confusedguy> ok its at 50% now
[03:50] <confusedguy> YAH ! its at 92 %!!!
[03:54] <confusedguy> o its rebooting
[04:00] <tgm4883_laptop> back
[04:01] <confusedguy> you are awesome
[04:02] <tgm4883_laptop> I aim to please ;)
[04:02] <confusedguy> i dont know why that didnt work before when i tried it, but if it werent for you, i might not have ever tried it agiann
[04:02] <tgm4883_laptop> it's not so much awesomeness, it's just that i have reinstalled so many times that i know what i'm doing and know what things to look for
[04:03] <confusedguy> im starting to get that experience too :)
[04:03] <confusedguy> ive installed some myth based distro or another at least 20 times now trying to get a solution
[04:04] <confusedguy> hey ive got a few more little things now you might be able to help with...
[04:05] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:05] <tgm4883_laptop> shoot
[04:05] <confusedguy> 1) when i "watch tv" the picture seems a little bit ...
[04:05] <confusedguy> oh yeah nvm... the screen isnt  set at right res.
[04:05] <confusedguy> alright fixed that one.
[04:06] <confusedguy> next... i've got no audio on my tv
[04:07] <confusedguy> well right now its pc speakers, & monitor, but im not getting audio is th important part.
[04:07] <huhlig> arrrrrgh
[04:07] <huhlig> with the new copy it wonr boot
[04:07] <huhlig> it just freezes at lilo
[04:10] <confusedguy> u there tgm?
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> back
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry, doing multiple things right now
[04:15] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, is there audio outside of mythtv?
[04:15] <confusedguy> np at all you're the one doing the helping.
[04:15] <confusedguy> u know im not sure
[04:18] <confusedguy> ok i really will slap myself if this is the only problem...
[04:18] <confusedguy> i've had the speakers plugged into the BE the whole time, not the FE
[04:21] <confusedguy> hm a new problem.
[04:21] <confusedguy> when i click watch tv it goes to black screen for 5 sec and then goes to menu
[04:21] <confusedguy> when a bit ago it worked fine
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> confusedguy, what tuner?
[04:33] <confusedguy> hauppage wintv 44001 rev b110
[04:34] <confusedguy> the thing is, it worked fine. but then i went to it later and tv froze up. I had to force kill the gui so that i could restart it
[04:34] <confusedguy> i think the problem is that theres prolly still other instances of the program running
[04:35] <confusedguy> but i also cant have the tv freezing up.
[04:38] <tgm4883_laptop> what are your frontend specs?
[04:39] <confusedguy> um amd sempron 2.2Ghz, 1gb ram
[04:40] <confusedguy> geforce 5200fx
[04:40] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[04:41] <confusedguy> so yeah i jsut restarted frontend
[04:41] <confusedguy> it still has the problem
[04:41] <confusedguy> i think the backend is at fault now
[04:41] <tgm4883_laptop> you'd have to restart the backend
[04:41] <tgm4883_laptop> just
[04:41] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo /etc/init.d/mythtvbackend restart
[04:43] <confusedguy> mythserver-01@mythserver-01:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart
[04:43] <confusedguy> Restarting MythTV server: mythbackend No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed.
[04:44] <confusedguy> interesting tho, because it is running
[04:44] <confusedguy> i can access the system fine
[04:44] <confusedguy> from the FE
[04:45] <confusedguy> i know a hard restart of the server would fix it
[04:45] <confusedguy> but... i cant hard restart the comp every 20 minutes
[04:46] <confusedguy> brb ima reset the server
[04:46] <confusedguy> we'll see how it goes after that
[04:52] <npurciful> hum there is 0k free on my drive and myth is wiggin out
[04:53] <npurciful> 2008-02-23 22:49:02.102 TFW, Error: safe_write(): File I/O  errcnt: 1
[04:53] <npurciful>                         eno: No space left on device (28)
[04:53] <npurciful> 2008-02-23 22:49:02.111 TFW: safe_write(): funky usleep
[04:53] <Shred01> npurciful: what do you expect myth to do when there is no space?
[04:53] <npurciful> ugh, expire recording
[04:54] <Shred01> that's a different problem.  :-)
[04:54] <Shred01> if you go into information centre and look at the expiry list, is there anything in it?
[04:55] <npurciful> mythbackend --printexpire
[04:56] <npurciful> yes there is
[04:56] <Shred01> what did you set as the minimum free space before doing expiration?
[04:58] <lessconfusedguy> alright
[04:59] <lessconfusedguy> im back
[04:59] <lessconfusedguy> as i said, it did fix the problem. for now anyway.
[04:59] <npurciful> 5gb
[04:59] <lessconfusedguy> i did verify that there is audio, and even inside of myth, but... not when watching tv
[05:01] <lessconfusedguy> u here tgm4883_laptop?
[05:01] <huhlig> argh
[05:01] <huhlig> 8.1 has squash errors
[05:02] <huhlig> 7.1 still wont work
[05:04] <huhlig> this is anoying
[05:05] <tgm4883_laptop> im here
[05:06] <huhlig> ok
[05:06] <huhlig> mabey you can explain this one
[05:06] <huhlig> SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x227a
[05:06] <huhlig> verified both the iso vs the md5hash and the burn
[05:07] <huhlig> and on the new version of 7.1 I get it installed and it gets to lilo and stops
[05:07] <tgm4883_laptop> hugolp, lilo or grub?
[05:07] <tgm4883_laptop> lessconfusedguy, run alsamixer from the command line and unmute everything
[05:08] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, hugolp or me?
[05:09] <tgm4883_laptop> huh
[05:09] <tgm4883_laptop> you on the lilo question
[05:09] <huhlig> lilo
[05:10] <npurciful> Shred01: hey i just delete the recording that was recording on disk1 (gave me 438MB) and set extradisk space to 10GB and it autoexpired and i have 12gb free on disk2 but 438mb on disk1
[05:10] <huhlig> is it possible to install with grub
[05:11] <npurciful> i had 2 recordings going on on each drive
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm not sure why lilo is showing up
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> as grub is default
[05:12] <lessconfusedguy> how do i know whats muted
[05:12] <lessconfusedguy> and what i need to unmute
[05:12] <huhlig> hmm
[05:12] <huhlig> I will try again
[05:14] <tgm4883_laptop> lessconfusedguy, open it up, and we will mute it from there
[05:14] <lessconfusedguy> open what? alsamixer? its open
[05:15] <tgm4883_laptop> unmute everything
[05:15] <lessconfusedguy> so what, max the volume on all the columns?
[05:17] <lessconfusedguy> is that what i should do?
[05:17] <foxbuntu___> lessconfusedguy, to unmute stuff in alsamixer you hit 'M"
[05:18] <lessconfusedguy> oh sorry whoops
[05:21] <lessconfusedguy> ok i did that
[05:22] <lessconfusedguy> still no audio from tv, but other audio is ungodly loud
[05:22] <foxbuntu___> lessconfusedguy, the bottom of the collums sound be '00'
[05:23] <lessconfusedguy> yeah they are now
[05:24] <lessconfusedguy> well shoot i gotta go for the evening. thank ya gents for all the help.
[05:24] <lessconfusedguy> ill be back tomorrow no doubt
[05:28] <huhlig> tgm4883_laptop, I am trying with the 7.1 disc again
[05:33] <huhlig> squashfs errors
[05:33] <huhlig> this means a bad cd or drive right
[06:06] <MythbuntuGuest79> Quick Question, where can I find a list of supported remote controls for Mythbuntu 7.10?
[06:07] <foxbuntu___> MythbuntuGuest79, aything lirc currently supports, we support
[06:07] <foxbuntu___> anything*
[06:13] <MythbuntuGuest79> Thank You!
[07:42] <npurciful> man, this suck, trying to figure out how i fixed a issue with sound and my reciever
[10:13] <directhex> hm, the trunk build appears to be buggered
[13:55] <davisc> Can anyone point me to a doc on how to config mythtv to take the audio from a TV card via the line in on the main sound card?
[15:31] <adaptr> if the TV card has no audio of its own, then just configure the line in as your primary recording source
[15:32] <adaptr> unless you mean you want to know how to *connect* this signal, in which case... um, good luck doing that in software
[15:40] <davisc> adaptr: I was wondering how to get mythbuntu to take it from the line-in. I can't the option
[15:40] <davisc> can't see *
[15:41] <adaptr> sigh...
[15:41] <davisc> The really annoying thing is that the audio device for the TV card is showing up in /proc/asound/cards
[15:42] <davisc> Will try and jab at it a bit more and see if I get somewhere
[15:43] <Flamekebab> I'm wondering if there's any script for easily inputting meta data for stored TV shows. The IMDB script is excellent for movies but there doesn't seem to be any convenient way to enter TV show data
[15:45] <adaptr> MythTV Setup -> Input Connections, was that so hard to find davisc ?
[15:47] <davisc> No mention of audio. But anyway, it doesn't matter. I'll figure it out myself
[15:48] <adaptr> oh, well, okay - it doesn't mention anything on my box, but then I don't do TV :)
[15:48] <Flamekebab> I wonder how difficult it'd be to code an input form of sorts using Zenity
[19:24] <camden> hi
[19:25] <camden> i'm a bit overwhelemed... i installed mythbuntu and i have a pinnacle tuner connected to the usb port
[19:25] <camden> but i can't figure out how to test the tuner
[19:25] <camden> and then continue to get mythbuntu set up
[19:25] <camden> i keep going through the back-end setup
[19:25] <camden> and it seems to detect the tuner
[19:26] <camden> but  i can't figure out how to actually see a signal coming in
[19:29] <camden> if i try "watch tv" and try to watch "live tv" from the front end
[19:29] <camden> it says i need to delete an in-progress recording
[19:29] <camden> but i don't have any in-progress recording
[19:29] <camden> i never set up any recordings... i am just setting this up for the first time :(
[19:31] <camden> hi
[19:31] <camden> i'm trying to just get set up
[19:31] <camden> for the first time
[19:31] <camden> and i can't get to the point where i can watch live tv
[19:31] <camden> just to see if my tuner is working
[19:32] <camden>  it says i need to delete an in-progress recording but i don't have any in-progress recording i never set up any recordings... i am just setting this up for the first time
[19:56] <Tari> camden, see if anything has your tuner device open
[20:28]  * npurciful bangs head into keyboard
[20:28] <npurciful> superm1:  you there?
[20:30] <superm1> no
[20:30] <superm1> :)
[20:33] <npurciful> okay
[20:34] <npurciful> hey i saw a post where your sound was screwed up via spdif
[20:34] <npurciful> no pcm via spdif
[20:35] <superm1> okay
[20:36] <npurciful> yeah, i just had that problem, to fix it i had to boot to livecd and cp /var/lib/alsa/asound.state then it worked again
[20:39] <npurciful> man if i could just get my reciever to stop switching modes i would be happy, on everysong change or commercial skip fastforward, etc my reciver changes modes and there is a 1.5sec of no sound
[20:39] <npurciful> cant remember how i fixed last time
[20:40] <npurciful> i have tryed about 30 .asoundrc 's
[20:52] <ebil> Hi, how does mythbuntu handle auto-login? I was just wondering because the effect I want to get is to have mythtv be the 'desktop' for my user. so when I close mythtv, it closes X, then say, 10 seconds later, starts up mythtv again
[20:52] <ebil> basically, this system will never be a regular desktop, so there's no reason to ever see the desktop environment
[20:56] <adaptr> auto-login is simply an option you click
[20:56] <adaptr> but restarting the frontend is not automatic - why not make it impossible to leave ?
[20:56] <adaptr> much the saner solution
[20:59] <ebil> Hmmm... Before (debian) I was using ummm... rungetty
[20:59] <ebil> so rungetty started the X server, and then my user had a .profile which started the WM and then exec'd mythtv
[21:00] <ebil> that was actually a rather elegant solution (I could restart mythtv frontend if it was necessary)
[21:00] <adaptr> that's...stupid, sice everything already is running, and you are already logged in
[21:00] <adaptr> "elegant" wouldn't be my choice of words for it :)
[21:00] <adaptr> all you need to ensure is that either mythfrontend restarts auto, or it never stops
[21:01] <adaptr> there's a bit on the wiki about using a remote button to exit and restart the frontend, with a 3-line script
[21:01] <adaptr> that way you NEVER need to see the desktop
[21:01] <adaptr> you can even disable the WM
[21:01] <adaptr> why would you want to start a WM to begin with, anyway ?
[21:01] <ebil> well I need the WM for mythvideo
[21:03] <ebil> technically, all I WANT is mythvideo (really don't need mythtv just yet as I'm switching to hdtv soon and where I am, you have to use stupid converter boxes for HDTV (unless you want to go over the air, which I don't)
[21:03] <ebil> so, I like the interface of mythtv, but I don't really need it as a PVR, what I really wanted to build was a media 'extender' I guess is what you'd call it?
[21:04] <ebil> to play videos etc off my file server, on the TV
[21:04] <ebil> is there a better way to go about doing that?
[21:06] <adaptr> ebil: you ...need a WM for...a full-screen application ?
[21:06] <adaptr> duhwhy
[21:06] <pwnguin> that's what we're doing with it
[21:06] <adaptr> that's what it really, really sucks at.. it has absolutely no media collecting intelligence whatsoever
[21:07] <ebil> adaptr, Ummm. can't remember off the top of my head, but it didn't work well when I did it without. I think that mythtv dind't want to give up being 'on top' when it was the WM
[21:07] <tgm4883_laptop> ebil, do you ever plan on using it as a PVR?
[21:07] <ebil> tgm4883_laptop, I might, but if there's a better method without using mythtv, I'm all for it (for the media extender stuff)
[21:08] <pwnguin> ebil: we just mount remote directories onto the default dir
[21:08] <tgm4883_laptop> Elisa would probably work for you
[21:08] <ebil> pwnguin, what do you mean? mount my video dir on the default mythtv directory?
[21:10] <ebil> tgm4883_laptop, Thanks, that might actually be exactly what I need
[21:10] <ebil> I mean, I tried mythtv, it was awesome, but in the next month ors o, I won't be able to use it anymore...
[21:11] <ebil> (not easily anyhow, due to the hdtv switchover I'm planning)
[21:11] <ebil> and when I do that, the cable company (or fios) will give me a DVR anyhow *shrugs*
[21:13] <tgm4883_laptop> ebil, you would be able to stream via firewire
[21:16] <adaptr> ebil: mythtv is not a WM, so it can't think it is, either, and there is nothing else on the desktop to be on top OF
[21:20] <ebil> adaptr, that's the point. you need a wm to control where the windows go. when I ran X with mythv *as* the wm, xine (or mplayer) ran under it (because there was no wm to manage it)
[21:21] <ebil> tgm4883_laptop, Last I checked the verizon fios set-top boxes didn't have firewire :(
[21:21] <adaptr> ebil: ah, you didn't share that aprt ;-)
[21:21] <ebil> adaptr, sorry
[21:21] <tgm4883_laptop> ebil, US law requires that HD boxes have a working firewire port
[21:21] <tgm4883_laptop> cable boxes that is
[21:21] <tgm4883_laptop> directv doesn't have that rule :(
[21:21] <ebil> tgm4883_laptop, Hmm... I'll have to call verizon again...
[21:22] <ebil> sucktastic
[21:22] <adaptr> what kind of a moron downloads 2 LMCE x64 cds for a settop box but then tries to install it on a x86 system ? (me)
[21:22]  * tgm4883_laptop has directv :(
[21:22] <ebil> ahh, I've got the choice of cox or fios
[21:22] <ebil> if cox keeps raising their prices, I may go with fios... oh, that firewire port only applies to HDTV though, right?
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> i have the choice of directv or nothing :(
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> it applies to the HD box
[21:23] <ebil> that's what I meant :P cool
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> sec, let me look it up
[21:24] <ebil> adaptr, is there an easy way in (default wm for mythbuntu) to do inittab-style checking of programs (i.e. if mythtv closes, start it up again)?
[21:24] <ebil> if so, that's what I'll use
[21:24] <ebil> basically, this machine will never have a kbd-mouse attached (or monitor for that matter, just a TV and mceusb2 remote)
[21:24] <tgm4883_laptop> ebil, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire#FCC_regulations
[21:25] <ebil> tgm4883_laptop, awesome, thanks... yeah, it's annoying. I had mythtv set up perfectly (2 machine setup, backend only and frontend only) then I decided to go with a unified setup, but mythtv (and linux in general, namely tv-out) had changed enough, that my previous install method failed, and I've been without mythtv for a while now
[21:31] <pwnguin> any tips on controlling mythbuntu with a gamepad?
[21:44] <ebil> oh well, mythbuntu failed to set up what had been stopping me before... no XV support for radeon 9200
[21:45] <superm1> ebil, use mythwelcome instead
[21:45] <superm1> see /etc/default/myth*
[21:55] <directhex> superm1, did you note the trunk build is twatted?
[21:55] <superm1> twatted?
[21:55] <superm1> what that mean?
[21:55] <directhex> buggered. arse over apex. titsup.com
[21:55] <superm1> from last weekend?
[21:56] <superm1> on which
[21:56] <superm1> gutsy?hardy?
[21:56] <directhex> 0.21.0~fixes16131-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1
[21:56] <superm1> what's wrong with itt?
[21:57] <directhex> depends on libfaad0 instead of libfaad2-0. which breaks anything with a depends: libfaad2-0 such as avidemux or gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[21:58] <superm1> ugh yuck.
[21:58] <superm1> that faad mess is horrible
[21:58] <directhex> provides: ?
[21:58] <superm1> well there is a workaround for reverting patches and stuff on the faad things
[21:58] <superm1> so if it finds itself being built on gutsy, it builds differently
[21:59] <directhex> well, it's started getting weird
[21:59] <directhex> directhex@mortos:~$ apt-cache policy libfaad0
[21:59] <directhex> libfaad0:
[21:59] <directhex>   Installed: (none)
[21:59] <directhex>   Candidate: 2.6.1-2ubuntu1~ppa1
[21:59] <superm1> where is there a libfaad0 package even?
[21:59] <superm1> on a ppa?
[21:59] <directhex>         500 http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org gutsy/main Packages
[21:59] <superm1> oh yuck
[22:00] <superm1> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk/+archive
[22:00] <superm1> how is that possible?
[22:00] <superm1> there is no faad listed
[22:00] <directhex> my spidey sense says it's a break since renaming from 0.20.99 to 0.21. but i'm usually wrong on these things
[22:00] <superm1> Daviey, what's up with your mirror?
[22:00] <superm1> directhex, please try with the US mirror if you can
[22:00] <directhex> ja wol
[22:01] <superm1> ja wol?
[22:01] <directhex> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:01] <directhex>   mythmusic: Depends: libfaad2-0 (>= 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp) but it is not installable
[22:01] <ebil> superm1, use mythwelcome for what? (sorry, was afk for a bit)
[22:01] <superm1> you amd64? directhex
[22:01] <directhex> superm1, yep
[22:01] <superm1> ebil, for your automatically restarting mythfrontend
[22:02] <superm1> directhex, oooh
[22:02] <ebil> ahhh, ok. I just need to figure out the ummm... XV stuff now (xvid etc plays like crap without it)
[22:02] <superm1> directhex, https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk/+archive/+build/519612
[22:02] <superm1> directhex, it makes no sense to me why it would happen only on amd64
[22:02] <directhex> aacdecoder.cpp: In member function 'bool aacDecoder::initializeMP4()':
[22:02] <directhex> aacdecoder.cpp:309: error: cannot convert 'long unsigned int*' to 'uint32_t*' for argument '4' to 'int8_t NeAACDecInit2(void*, unsigned char*, uint32_t, uint32_t*, uint8_t*)'
[22:03] <superm1> (in gutsy at least)
[22:03] <directhex> 64-bit clean error, methinks
[22:03] <superm1> the hardy build works perfectly though
[22:06] <directhex> superm1, so do we have any leads? do you have access to an amd64 machine to try it interactively?
[22:06] <superm1> directhex, unfortunately not :(
[22:06] <superm1> that's what makes it hell to debug
[22:06] <superm1> maybe just turn off aac on gutsy builds
[22:07] <superm1> that would do the trick
[22:07] <directhex> aw hell no, not after i started re-ripping my dvds as h264/aac!
[22:07] <directhex> hang on...
[22:07] <superm1> mythmusic at least would have it off
[22:07] <superm1> won't affect anything else
[22:10] <directhex> so is 10_mythmusic_faad supposed to be applied if it IS gutsy, or if it isn't?
[22:10] <superm1> no it's not
[22:11] <superm1> because the faad in gutsy is different than hardy
[22:11] <superm1> there was a big transition
[22:11] <superm1> broke a lot of apps
[22:11] <directhex> yay for abi transitions
[22:11] <directhex> okay, that build removed the patch as desied then - "reverting patch 10_mythmusic_faad from ./ ... ok."
[22:11] <superm1> yeah
[22:11] <superm1> and that fixes the i386 build
[22:11] <superm1> but amd64 i dunno.
[22:12] <directhex> let me take a look
[22:14] <directhex> why don't i even *have* that patch file? O_o
[22:19] <directhex> hang on, why does mythmusic care? isn't it in mythplugins not mythtv?
[22:19] <directhex> duh. yes. i'm going mad
[22:20] <superm1> directhex, (it was introduced in hardy)
[22:20] <directhex> i was looking in mythtv not mythplugins because i'm a big fat idiot
[22:21] <superm1> :)
[22:21] <directhex> don't hack drunk.
[22:21] <ebil> has anyone gotten full XV acceleration working wit something as old as a radeon 9200? (I also need tv-out, which is the big issue)
[22:22] <directhex> ebil, how many screens do you hve attached?
[22:22] <ebil> directhex, it would just be the TV attached
[22:22] <directhex> ebil, would be? or is?
[22:22] <ebil> is
[22:23] <ebil> is and will be
[22:24] <directhex> dear aptitude, stop trying to fix things and just do as i sodding say. love directhex
[22:26] <ebil> heh
[22:27] <pwnguin> oh, is XV not often supported?
[22:27] <directhex> pwnguin, sure, but ati tends to suck
[22:27] <ebil> yeah, basically.
[22:27] <pwnguin> we have a geforce 5700 fx that wont show video with the default settings
[22:27] <ebil> they tend to drop support for older cards sans notice
[22:28] <directhex> pwnguin, green screen?
[22:28] <pwnguin> no screen
[22:28] <pwnguin> just the menu
[22:28] <directhex> can't imagine how that would be an xv issue
[22:28] <pwnguin> it works with sdl
[22:28] <pwnguin> but not xv
[22:29] <directhex> where are you setting that, pray tell?
[22:29] <pwnguin> there's a command line option
[22:29] <pwnguin> the default is mplayer -blah -blah -vo xv %s
[22:29] <directhex> so you're talking about mplayer, not mythtv
[22:30] <pwnguin> mythtv uses mplayer..
[22:30] <directhex> old versions of the mythvideo plugin use mplayer, yes
[22:31] <pwnguin> well
[22:31] <pwnguin> im not updating to 8.04 before... 04/2008
[22:32] <directhex> does livetv work?
[22:32] <pwnguin> dont have video in
[22:33] <directhex> do you actually know the error reported by mplayer (and you have mplayer issues, not mythtv issues)?
[22:33] <pwnguin> not off hand
[22:33] <pwnguin> i can get it however ;
[22:37] <directhex> superm1, found the problem
[22:37] <superm1> what is it?
[22:37] <directhex> i think, anyway
[22:40] <directhex> the ppa build is definitely building against libfaad0, not libfaad2-0, on amd64
[22:40] <superm1> where did that faad come from i wonder
[22:40] <directhex> check the ppa for a rogue libfaad-dev_2.6.1-2ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.deb
[22:40] <superm1> if that's the case, then it (should) be transient
[22:41] <directhex> see, compare http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12060020/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.mythplugins_0.21.0%7Efixes16131-0ubuntu0%7Emythbuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz and http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12060000/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.mythplugins_0.21.0%7Efixes16131-0ubuntu0%7Emythbuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:41] <directhex> libfaad-dev: missing
[22:41] <directhex> libfaad-dev: does not exist
[22:41] <directhex> libfaad2-dev: missing
[22:41] <directhex> ^^ i386
[22:41] <superm1> woah wtf http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu-trunk/ubuntu/pool/main/f/faad2/
[22:41] <superm1> you're right
[22:41] <directhex> libfaad-dev: missing
[22:41] <directhex> libfaad2-dev: missing
[22:41] <directhex> ^^ amd64
[22:42] <superm1> let me check in #launchpad then and on the mailing list
[22:42] <superm1> i'll delay the build from this weekend until its gone
[22:43] <directhex> winnar \o/
[22:43] <superm1> nice catch dude :)
[22:44] <pwnguin> from mplayer: it seems theres no xv support for your card available
[22:44] <pwnguin> run xvinfo blah blah blah
[22:44] <pwnguin> hmm
[22:45] <directhex> no wonder libmyth-0.21-0 Depends: libfaad0 (>= 2.6.1)
[22:45] <superm1> so basically it's trying to force the faad transition on you early :)
[22:46] <directhex> waaaaaa :'(
[22:46] <directhex> i *like* avidemux!
[22:46] <superm1> well as soon as the launchpad folks take care of it, you can have your avidemux back :)
[22:47] <pwnguin> i have to say, i really hate the displayconfig gtk tool
[22:47] <superm1> with open source drivers it rocks
[22:47] <superm1> on proprietary ones though
[22:47] <superm1> yuck it doesn't for anything
[22:47] <directhex> pwnguin, nice idea, doesn't work properly
[22:48] <directhex> superm1, out of interest, do you know whether LTS this time around has a more sensible policy on driver updates than dapper did?
[22:48] <pwnguin> it seems like it always screws up xorg
[22:48] <pwnguin> ?
[22:48] <superm1> directhex, you mean for proprietary drivers?
[22:48] <pwnguin> oh
[22:48] <pwnguin> yea, i wish it would work
[22:49] <pwnguin> it doesn't =(
[22:49] <directhex> superm1, not specifically (though given the brokenness of xv on nvidia 100.x, some solution there would be nice). i mean dapper was released in 2006/06, and uninstallable on new dell servers in 2006/11
[22:50] <superm1> directhex, well that comes down to whether or not the vendor is submitting updates and claiming it to be functional on the servers
[22:50] <superm1> its big chicken and egg problem
[22:50] <superm1> for who is to take the responsibility of doing that
[22:50] <directhex> pwnguin, i just wish it didn't take such a retro approach - i.e. i like to use evdev for my mouse and let my driver/edid sort out resolutions
[22:50] <superm1> and backporting the changes
[22:50] <superm1> if dell wants to market their new servers to run ubuntu nicely, then they need to backport the changes
[22:50] <superm1> but if canonical wants to market ubuntu as working great on dell servers, they need to
[22:51] <directhex> superm1, at some stage, someone needs to do the backports for ubuntu to be a serious server platform. i had to do an 11th hour change from deploying dapper to edgy, due to driver constraints
[22:51] <superm1> wow
[22:51] <directhex> superm1, hell, consider how mad the backporting is on "enterprise" distros like rhel or sles
[22:51] <superm1> directhex, yeah right now canonical hasn't allocated resources for that
[22:51] <superm1> directhex, their kernel guys are already stretched thin
[22:52] <directhex> superm1, hell, rhel3 runs "2.4.21" on platforms like amd64. they backported the whole of nptl
[22:52] <superm1> egads
[22:52] <superm1> that's crazy:P
[22:52] <pwnguin> they backport like crazy
[22:52] <pwnguin> theres probably like 50 or more kernel devs
[22:52] <pwnguin> for rhel
[22:52] <pwnguin> fedora has like dave jones and his slave
[22:53] <directhex> superm1, i know! but in the end, the realistic case is: new hardware happens. a dell sevrer bought 4 months after dapper's release lacked ethernet or disk controller support. and the thing is, the kernel changes WERE backported, and not released for a year
[22:54] <superm1> directhex, well the other difference is that to dell, ubuntu isn't a tier 1 offering on servers
[22:54] <superm1> whereas rhel and sles are
[22:54] <pwnguin> http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2008/Thu/mel8-128.ogg
[22:54] <superm1> what's this?
[22:54] <pwnguin> dave jones talks about his work and the fedora / rhel kernel efforts
[22:55] <pwnguin> includes partial nudity
[22:57] <directhex> superm1, check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+publishinghistory - 2.6.15-50 included required backports, and went into dapper-proposed on 2007-01-23. 2.6.15-51.64 fixed the problem "for real" and arrived on 2008-01-10
[22:57] <superm1> directhex, wow.  that is a problem
[22:57] <pwnguin> directhex: you could always buy one of those support contracts from canonical ;)
[22:57] <directhex> superm1, rendering dapper unusable on any dell servers (and probably other vendors too) for 13 months
[22:57] <superm1> directhex, have you brought this up with Ubuntu Devel at all?
[22:57] <superm1> or anything similar?
[22:59] <directhex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/98586
[23:00] <pwnguin> honestly i think lts is something that should be between canonical and its customers
[23:00] <superm1> pwnguin, amusing opening at least with that guy
[23:01] <pwnguin> heh yea
[23:01] <pwnguin> dave jones is probably the most prolific kernel hacker in contributions
[23:01] <pwnguin> depending on the year
[23:01] <directhex> RHEL issues new install media for stable releases (with kernel backports) every 6 months or so - see http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/notes/
[23:01] <pwnguin> rhel also charges how much?
[23:02] <directhex> pwnguin, how often do you think centos issues updates?
[23:02] <pwnguin> directhex: how often do you think centos pays developers?
[23:02] <pwnguin> it's easy when your only task is duplicating rhel
[23:03] <directhex> when corp software support proves to me it's worth the money, i'll voluntarily pay. experience so far says it isn't
[23:03] <pwnguin> as the talk i posted makes fairly clear, rhel invests a lot of manhours into that backporting
[23:04] <pwnguin> clearly canonical / ubuntu's rhetoric is out of line with the dell network drivers you cited
[23:05] <directhex> no, what i don't get is why ubuntu's kernel team fixed the problem in jan 2007, then sat on it until jan 2008
[23:05] <pwnguin> indeed
[23:05] <directhex> the 2.6.15-50 image *worked*, but was incomplete in other areas (missing ubuntuish metapackages etc)
[23:05] <staind9383> hello there
[23:06] <pwnguin> perhaps it was part of their strategy to get dell to support ubuntu in laptops?
[23:06] <pwnguin> at the very least, there may have been a question about who was getting paid and how much for the effort
[23:07] <directhex> some of us do it for love! like tracking down dodgy libfaad dependencies!
[23:07] <pwnguin> heh
[23:07] <pwnguin> sure
[23:07] <pwnguin> but we use devel for that ;)
[23:07] <directhex> out of curiosity superm1, is there any common ground between the ubuntu and marillat packages anymore?
[23:07] <pwnguin> directhex: the changelog?
[23:07] <staind9383> does anyone know why firewire would just stop working in mythtv?
[23:07] <pwnguin> probably about half of it is still in common ;)
[23:08] <staind9383> would it be possible that the cable co turned it off, or more likely that i screwed something up accidentally
[23:08] <superm1> directhex, we've diverged a LOT
[23:08] <superm1> directhex, marillat didn't like a fair deal of our changes
[23:08] <superm1> so that's what happens
[23:09] <directhex> pwnguin, the last changelog entry from marillat was 0.20-0.0
[23:09] <directhex> superm1, anything specific?
[23:09] <superm1> well the extra meta packages for one
[23:09] <superm1> dependencies upon mysql-server
[23:09] <superm1> things to ease the experience (my group checking)
[23:09] <superm1> we add extra patches during gutsy time that he wouldnt add
[23:10] <directhex> user experience improvements (i.e. ubuntuification) then :p
[23:10] <pwnguin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57272/
[23:10] <superm1> yeah
[23:10] <pwnguin> anyone willing to help fix up an xorg.conf that's clearly gone wrong?
[23:10] <superm1> but honestly, people in debian would benefit too
[23:10] <superm1> its too bad he didnt like some of them
[23:10] <directhex> pwnguin, graphics card?
[23:11] <pwnguin> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36.2 [GeForce FX 5700] (rev a1)
[23:11] <directhex> don't copy it verbatim, it probably won't work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57273/
[23:12] <staind9383> is it even possible to see if the firewire port on my cable box is disabled or something like that?
[23:12] <pwnguin> staind9383: check dmesg?
[23:12] <staind9383> didnt get anything
[23:12] <alexvd_> hi anyone running mythphone for callerid pop?
[23:12] <staind9383> brb, gonna switch clients
[23:14] <npurciful> err dang, pcm audio reciever is killing me!
[23:14] <alexvd_> It works for a while and then I will get a crash eventually.  I did some searching and it look like thier was a ticket open in Trac.  They were requesting a backtrace for mythbuntu.  Anyone seen this besides myself.  I have the ticket number
[23:22] <staind9383> and back
[23:24] <staind9383> pwnguin: no i did not check dmesg.  the mythbackend logs show firewire priming failing though
[23:24] <staind9383> i'm looking now
[23:31] <pwnguin> gah
[23:31] <pwnguin> i guess i could check var/log for errors on xorg
[23:35] <tgm4883_laptop> staind9383|afk, check your box to see if the cable company turned encryption on
[23:52] <staind9383> how might i do that?
[23:53] <staind9383> and would encryption stop the firewire from workign on all channels?
[23:53] <staind9383> i have a SA4250HD
[23:53] <staind9383> cablevision is the cable co
[23:54] <staind9383> firewire was working fine, but it stopped working after i was trying to get nuv export to work
[23:55] <staind9383> so i dont know if i screwed something up in the process, or if the box itself is the issue
[23:58] <staind9383> i read on the myth wiki that firewire will not work in mythtv after kernel 2.6.22, mine is 2.6.22-14.  Would that be an affected version?
[23:58] <superm1> if it was working before and just stopped working after running nuvexport, then its not a kernel issue