[00:06] PriceChild: who is running it? [00:07] goukipt [00:08] how much RAM does the machine have? [00:08] 128 [00:08] i think [00:09] oh no, he wanted a 128 [00:09] er [00:09] thats ubuntuircstats [00:09] not ubuntustats [00:09] ubuntustats was a n nice ajaxy thing [00:09] ah sorry [00:09] i meant ubuntuircstats then :P [00:09] ubuntuircstats is basically pisg [00:10] ubuntustats is really very nice indeed [00:10] ubuntustats.com seems down as well [00:11] thats what i thouhgjt you were getting at with your "forget" [00:11] i was guessing the name for the factoid [00:12] well you gessed _wrong_ hairboy! [00:12] :P [00:12] Booyah! [00:12] There's just no comeback to that. [00:13] PriceChild: Should you have checked what the factoid actually said first? [00:13] yeah, you tell im [00:13] Seeker`, there is no factoid for ubuntustats.com [00:13] ubotu, search ubuntustats.com [00:13] Found: [00:13] these are not the droids you are looking for... [00:13] ubotu, search ubuntustats [00:14] oi oi [00:14] he doesn't want to talk to you anymore [00:14] is it ignoring me? [00:14] bah [00:14] it's because of the hair comment isn't it? [00:14] ubotu, search ubuntustats [00:14] Found: [00:14] * popey slaps ubotu [00:14] ubotu, search ubuntustats [00:14] lol popey i have no access to ubotu apart from editors, I didn't do anything :) [00:14] ooo roast dinner sunday [00:14] doesn't like me either :( [00:14] Seeker`, probably too quick [00:15] yeah, but nobody likes you Seeker` [00:15] ubotu, search uk [00:15] Found: paste-#ubuntu-uk, ops-#ubuntu-meeting, ops-#ubuntu-devel, hr, logs-#ubuntu-uk, ops-#ubuntu-uk, nvidia9, players, pastebin-#ubuntu-uk, gb [00:15] it likes me :) [00:15] meh [00:15] bah iphone advert [00:16] * Seeker` hugs ubotu [00:21] LjL, i think there's a read-topic ban on "ubuntu"? [00:21] * PriceChild checks [00:22] appearing in -read-topic anyway, but don't seem to be banned... odd [00:22] PriceChild: yes, i've removed it now [00:23] ah good good :) [00:23] * PriceChild wonders why he was /away, and why he didn't see anything [00:24] PriceChild: erm... i don't know, but there was an exploit :) [01:43] * csc`` sits [01:43] csc``: Can we help you? [01:43] csc``: did you follow the instructions in #ubuntu-read-topic ? [01:44] nalioth: csc``: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how). [01:44] ah [01:44] stupid bots [02:04] nalioth, perhaps rather than the bots being stupid, it's more like he's not banned at all [02:07] the MetaBot source is not available at https://code.launchpad.net/~ljl/ubuntu-bots/metabot [02:08] stupid router [02:11] I thought that said floodbot. [02:15] Pici: maybe [much] later :) [03:10] you guys aware of guest2k7? [03:10] ftp://anonymous:anonymous@80.109.44.199:32767 [03:11] which links to an FTP that has clearly been compromised [03:11] that was in #ubuntu-uk [03:12] but i doubt it's any use now, as he seems to have been connected to irc through the compromised system =\ [03:14] Moniker42, not much we can do about it i guess... i'll tell him if i see him [03:15] but i don't he'll come back with the same nick [03:15] yea [04:29] watch Irin{0a [04:29] just sent me an 'asl' PM [04:30] Which channel [04:52] anybody in #ubuntu-fr see a nazi spammer? === ubot3` is now known as ubot3 [06:22] nalioth: do you ever sleep? [06:22] Pici: not lately [06:22] :( [06:22] Eeeh :/ [06:39] -!- Darksiteevil [n=Darksite@dynamic17-113.MAN-B2-1.cablenet.com.ni] è uscito da #ubuntu-es-ops ["got to my site www.linux-ni.tk!"] [06:39] can I interpret it as spam? [06:39] no0tic: again? [06:39] no0tic: did this happen just now? [06:39] Is he just joining and parting? Lots of people have websites in their quit/part pessages. [06:39] nalioth, yes [06:40] Pici: it's not join/part [06:40] no0tic: it's a channel text, right? [06:40] Pici, no, he stays on channels too [06:40] nalioth: oh.. a notice? [06:40] nalioth, it's a part message [06:40] no0tic: ah, a part message [06:40] ok then :) [06:40] that's ok, if he's not join/parting just to show it off [06:41] it doesn't seem so [06:45] well, I can say he is just an "usual customer" of ours in -es. He seems to get banned frequently [07:13] someone please help me in -offtopic [07:14] there we go :-D [07:14] kekek [07:26] we've got way too many loser types in there now :( [08:12] sigh [08:12] 03:11:19 I think #ubuntu's being attacked! [08:12] 03:11:30 Every time i join here, i get a segfault with all irc clients [08:16] I simply joined #ubuntu with xchat right now :) [09:43] Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu (daba) [10:03] Gary, still in Belgium? [10:03] yep [10:04] I am all pastried out :-) [10:04] and have drunk waaaaaaaaay too much coffee [10:04] haha [10:04] had a nice romanticish meal last night in a hotel [10:04] free hotel room too, thanks to a hants lug cancelleeeee [10:07] haha [10:08] * ompaul larts self for the s/lol/haha [10:08] I know a few guys who went to it [10:11] I was really happy someone could not make it, the hotel was nice [10:11] Gary, care to comment in -offtopic [10:12] about say the events themselves [10:21] bleh [10:53] [21:53] [Whois] Iv^a_na is i=simeon@c-76-106-232-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net (powered by spambuster v2.6) [10:53] what is that? [10:54] Probably some custom irc client script thing. Probably mirc [10:59] they've been querying me [10:59] I'm really starting to dislike this LinuxID10T feller on -ot [11:00] Myrtti: sounds like an apt name for him... [11:10] that seemed to work [11:10] I've got my finger on the trigger [11:19] with some look he may go away before the game is over [11:19] i.e. his 15 mins [12:21] guys having fun in #ubuntu+1 I see [14:04] * LjL hates forward-evading exploit victims [14:10] hey LjL [14:11] LjL, need some help here, does ubuntu have a webpage/wiki citing all its +ves like an article or something? [14:11] For tips and information on channel and user modes and management, see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml grub [14:11] nalioth, umm, oook i know that thanks anyway [14:12] grub: +ves? [14:12] grub: so what were you asking? [14:12] positives [14:12] i actually have a presentation to give tomorrow regarding "Why you should use Ubuntu/Linux" [14:12] grub: that's a little out of the scope of this channel. i don't think ubuntu goes to brag around much about how good it is ;) but if you try asking #ubuntu-offtopic, i'm sure you'll find plenty of opinions [14:13] ok thanks! [14:17] LjL: this RindTailedFox guy repeated the same thing in #k, #k-ot, and #u-ot [14:18] so he's asking for help [14:18] and #u [14:46] grub, is that as in the boot manager or the local for food in .ie [14:47] and then second up is there anything else we can help you wit? [14:47] *with [14:51] grub, is there anything else we can help you with? [15:19] hmm guess not [15:24] munch munch [15:38] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (rickyfingers) [15:40] Seveas, ;-) [15:41] that by the way was for racist comments by insaneboy` in pm based on my earlier actions [15:41] fool gets what fool wants === mc44_ is now known as mc44 [16:31] @btlogin [16:40] !ping [16:40] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [16:40] ah, good [16:43] stdin: can I remove the ban *!*@CPE00012e15cab6-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com in -kde4? He was klined [16:43] yeah, if they were k-lined then it's a pointless ban :) [16:44] just checking, it was yours ;) [16:46] ubotu, no wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://wubi-installer.org/ [16:46] I'll remember that PriceChild [16:57] no XXXX are <<<< typo of the decade so far [16:58] PriceChild, please use ! rather than ubotu, so ubotwo picks things up too [16:58] whoops sorry LjL [16:58] ubotwo, no wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://wubi-installer.org/ [16:59] just saying [16:59] LjL, where do you want that done? [16:59] where *is* ubotwo for starters [16:59] not here [16:59] i should put it on crontab some day [17:00] ah he isn't here [17:40] LjL: take a look at #k-ot - this guy is nearing trolling [17:51] hello leogg, how can we help? [17:52] hi jpatrick, I want to request an ubuntu/member cloak [17:53] leogg: are you an ubuntu member? Link to your launchpad page please [17:53] https://launchpad.net/~leogomez72/ [17:54] ah, everything appears to be in order, please idle here till nalioth comes back :) [17:55] ok, thanks jpatrick :) [17:59] leogg: have you set up your nick as described in http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup ? [17:59] jpatrick, yes [18:00] nalioth, ubuntu/member cloak for leogg please. [18:07] nalioth, I'm just going through ubuntu-irc-cloaks and matching with ubuntumembers using a handy python snippet. Checking manually also, "robitaille", "lucasd", "meyer", The following is online and I've PMd to see if they are going to be renewing: "dous". Finally "naamanc" has also expired, but nolonger lists an irc nick so I've no idea what their username was on here after obvious tries have failed. [18:36] PriceChild, what do you think of this [18:36] !troll [18:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [18:36] hmm [18:36] !trolling [18:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about trolling - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [18:36] !search troll [18:36] Found: troll*, a troll, don't feed the troll, nl-troll, feeding the troll, nl-troll in een internetomgeving, feedthetroll [18:36] a troll [18:37] arrrrr [18:37] :) [18:37] what's special about the nl-troll? [18:37] !nl-troll [18:37] nl-troll is In een internetomgeving is een Troll een persoon die slechts als doel heeft: het zaaien van onrust en het krijgen van reacties en aandacht. [18:37] atroll [18:37] O_o [18:37] obviously [18:37] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood) [18:37] PriceChild: ja... [18:37] !atroll [18:37] trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubotu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel [18:38] what's going on.. [18:39] PriceChild, I am thinking of /msg ubotu atroll > PriceChild (read a message from the bot) [18:39] Was that just lagging on the bots? [18:39] I'd like to point out that "behaviour" is spelled wrong. [18:39] * jdong ducks [18:40] hehehe [18:40] en.US or en.UK? [18:40] wow lag [18:40] ow! [18:40] heh [18:40] I think #3 is lagging, didn't see #1 as +o [18:40] kick #3 and let it clean itself up ? [18:41] when in doubt, kick it out... [18:41] sounds like US diplomatic policies [18:41] it said "clone flood" thouhg... [18:41] i don't see clones [18:43] I can't see a clone flood, and from the users I checked it seemed to be muting users that had been connected a while [18:43] PriceChild, pm [18:44] LjL, are you around? [18:51] <_Oz_> Hello, all. [18:52] <_Oz_> I have been defeated by ompaul, who kicked and then banned me from #ubuntu for not following the rules. Rather than be humbled/humiliated by being forced to arrive here and beg for reinstatement, I attempted to get along without #ubuntu. [18:52] <_Oz_> But I have discovered that it is difficult to do that. #ubuntu is a great resource. [18:53] <_Oz_> So I come here to humbly ask for forgiveness, and for reinstatement. [18:53] <_Oz_> I stand ready to prove that I will stay on topic better next time, although I do feel ompaul was unnecessarily hard on me by banning me for something which seemed very insignificant to me at the time. [18:54] _Oz_, one moment please. [18:54] <_Oz_> However, I realize that #ubuntu is a resource, and with such great interest in the OS it is occasionally necessary to be heavy-handed to keep the channel on an even keel. [18:55] _Oz_, remind me what you actually did? [18:55] <_Oz_> A person came into the channel and changed his nick. [18:56] <_Oz_> ompaul told him not to change his nick in the channel due to scroll. [18:56] <_Oz_> The person explained that the server forced him to change his nick due to a nick collision or something. [18:56] <_Oz_> ompaul wouldn't let it drop, and I tried to (politely) tell ompaul that in this case this person had no other choice than to change his nick. [18:56] <_Oz_> ompaul then banned me. [18:57] <_Oz_> Next time I will not mention it. [18:57] <_Oz_> I simply wish to use #ubuntu as a resource both to learn and help others. I will not engage in conversations related to anything but that. [18:58] _Oz_, I last said to you -- Feb 16 23:55:31 now read the guidelines and drop into #ubuntu-ops when you are done cheers [18:58] did you? [18:58] <_Oz_> I did indeed. [18:59] now in fact the reason you made the channel scroll was? [18:59] <_Oz_> Getting offtpic. [18:59] In ubotu, sinbox said: !pizza is An oven baked circle of dough topped with tomato sauce and whichever favourite toppings you like [19:00] _Oz_, I do not see ompaul replying to you for 10 minutes, and then you attempting to send him !patience, after you have just been warned for offtopic chatter by another op? [19:00] no actually being a pain [19:01] really you were told you were offtopic [19:01] you played a little game trying to guess an anagram [19:01] <_Oz_> That's right, I forgot about that. [19:01] <_Oz_> I did do that. [19:01] <_Oz_> It's been awhile now. [19:01] <_Oz_> Definitely not in the rules. [19:01] _Oz_, you forgot that? What I just said kind of goes against what you thought happenned? "ompaul wouldn't let it drop" [19:01] that is exactly how you endear yourself to other [19:02] s [19:02] <_Oz_> Like I said, I just want to stick to Ubuntu topics only. NO anagrams, no discussion about rules, etc. I apologize for being rude if that was perceived as such. [19:02] _Oz_, have you read the ubuntu guidelines? [19:02] <_Oz_> They are sitting on my screen right now! [19:03] Don't be annoying [19:03] * [19:03] Flooding, away messages, repeating and bot abuse are not the only ways you can be annoying. Personal attacks when things don't go as planned, continued misbehaving after you have been advised against, and similar behaviour will be rewarded with a ban. [19:03] <_Oz_> I was not aware that ompaul was an op and thought !patience was appropriate at that time because he was, in my view at that time, needlessly needling a person about an unavoidable nick change. I recognize in retrospect I was bein rude and, er, annoying. [19:03] ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [19:04] you were warned off and told you were offtopic [19:04] it does not matter who tells you [19:04] you need to respect all those around you - and they will more than likely do likewise [19:04] <_Oz_> I stand ready to be flagellated further. [19:04] no you don't [19:04] we are not beating you u [19:04] up [19:04] I've just noticed that jrib was caught with the mutes. I am removing all of those now. [19:05] <_Oz_> Bottom line is this: #ubuntu-offtopic is fine for chatter and #ubuntu will only be used by me either to help others or to ask specific questions. Period. [19:05] why did you get banned from -offtopic? [19:05] <_Oz_> I don't know what else to say other than that. [19:05] !o4o [19:05] <_Oz_> I'm not banned? [19:05] <_Oz_> I'm in there right now. [19:05] * ompaul read it as such [19:05] hrmph [19:06] Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks. [19:06] _Oz_, "I was not aware that ompaul was an op" - why should that have any bearing on the situation? [19:07] you got removed from there [19:07] <_Oz_> Because, pricechild, sending !patience to an op would be construed by most to be disrespectful and intentionally rude. At that time I thought ompaul was just another user getting a little too prickly with a person who was clearly not tryuing to break any rules. In retrospect, I should have remained uninvolved. [19:08] _Oz_, We are *all* just other users. [19:08] <_Oz_> I understand. [19:08] _Oz_, the fact that we have access in #ubuntu should have no relevance. I don't think its acceptable to treat anyone else in there worse than you would me. [19:08] however you were continuing to behave badly trying to guess that anagram - and as I said already: mpaul> you need to respect all those around you - and they will more than likely do likewise [19:09] <_Oz_> ompaul: I apologize for that. I don't know what else to say. [19:09] <_Oz_> there wasn't much chatter at the time, someone invited me to guess what their name meant as an anagram. A light-hearted moment. However, it's not the way it works in #ubuntu as I can now see. [19:09] _Oz_, I have issues with lifting your ban - it seems to me that you missed the point of what is going on and still do let me think for a few mins please [19:10] <_Oz_> OK. [19:10] _Oz_, I would like to suggest you are a little more sparing with the bot in future. [19:11] _Oz_, to be very blunt, I have found complaints directed at the *entire* #ubuntu channel on ubuntuforums.org, using quotes of your participation. [19:11] brb - give me two or three mins [19:11] <_Oz_> What does that mean? [19:12] _Oz_, People have posted on ubuntuforums.org, saying how #ubuntu is rubbish, because of a bad experience at getting support in which you were involved. [19:12] <_Oz_> Really? Can I see the URL? I have helped a number of people. [19:14] _Oz_, In future please read users statements more fully before sending bot commands. In the past they have not been suitable, the "!patience" factoid to ompaul earlier would be a prime example. [19:14] <_Oz_> Yeah, I'm not using !patience ever again. [19:14] <_Oz_> In fact, I'm only going to use stock answers for specific questions such as !medibuntu and such. [19:15] _Oz_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=702990 [19:15] _Oz_, I'm not saying don't use these factoids, I'm just suggesting you are more careful. [19:16] _Oz_, We value every user in #ubuntu that gives support and don't want you to limit the valuable support you can give. [19:16] <_Oz_> What in the world? I had nothing to do with anyone posting on that thread. [19:16] <_Oz_> That certainly wasn't me, in the OP's original example. [19:17] _Oz_, my logs match you up as "User2" [19:17] <_Oz_> Well, I think I can provide some help. Not as much as some others, because I don't know as much, but I'm starting to learn more. [19:17] <_Oz_> That was NOT me. [19:18] <_Oz_> I will admit to what I've done wrong, and have done so, but I never said those things. [19:18] _Oz_, see the thing is we are all involved in various aspects of the Ubuntu project [19:18] anyway - give me a moment [19:18] <_Oz_> It's an awesome project. [19:18] Its irrelevant. [19:18] _Oz_, we would like to let you back into #ubuntu, but please listen to my suggestions above. [19:19] <_Oz_> I have heard them and I will abide by them, Pricechild. [19:19] Good to hear. [19:20] _Oz_, the door is open [19:20] please part this channel [19:20] <_Oz_> Thank you all. [19:20] My logs show someone using that nickname this past month on two hostnames. [19:21] that one, and adsl-210-201-198.ard.bellsouth.net [19:21] it is adsl-210-201-198.ard.bellsouth.net which was the subject of the complaint i linked to. [19:24] my logs show him as accessing using rr.com, swapping for a few days then coming back as the original one with no swapping in between if I'm not mistaken so I'd be willing to bet it was him. [19:27] PriceChild, i think he may have gotten a fright there [19:27] ;-) [19:28] !ops [19:28] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! [19:28] Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [19:29] I could be paranoid, but that looked too much like a join flood [19:29] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:29] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:29] by now I'm sure [19:30] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [19:30] what the heck [19:33] Seveaz ? [19:33] I think we should -m [19:33] with +i they can't join [19:33] first someone needs to explain why +im was dropped [19:34] the floodbots... odd [19:34] floodbot should NOT mess with modes ops set [19:34] indeed [19:34] at least one got lagged off... [19:35] LjL, please fix this [19:35] this caused the attack to do far more damage [19:35] Could we please -m ? Think we need to kick the floodbots? [19:35] if the attack happens again, first thing to do is kick them [19:36] ok [19:39] wtf were they just doing then? [19:39] no idea, but I don't like it [19:39] hmm -monitor shows them as on "emergency mode" still [19:40] often two of them do the same [19:40] i guess 1 was reset when it excess flooded [19:40] if they're still in emergency mode, shouldn't we kick them? [19:40] no that's what they're meant to be in [19:40] floodbot1 must not have known what was going on when it rejoined... and tried to undo emergency things [19:41] causing 2 and 3 to throw their toys out the pram and reset them [19:41] note the convo in -ot [19:41] but what do i know [19:41] there we go again [19:44] bots are going crazy [19:44] * tomaw would kick them rather than the people complaining about them... [19:47] I kicked them, they kept on setting/resetting +J [19:50] daedalus2: Please wait a minute or two... [19:50] it meant it [19:51] ompaul, we need to do those ourselves now [19:51] someone should watch -monitor and remove bans when they are cleared [19:52] PriceChild, I just copped that and removed the ban [19:52] daedalus2, your ban is removed [19:52] please part from here [19:54] CorruptTerrorist: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how). [19:55] ehh you are already in #ubuntu [19:55] you aren't banned [19:55] so what are you playing at? [19:55] it wont let me join [19:55] seriously [19:55] oops [19:56] just realised... change router ports... sorry eveyone [19:56] mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-k [19:56] stdin, did I use the word "special2 [19:56] "special" even? [19:56] yep, very "special" indeed [19:59] frold has been removed from the exploit quarantine [19:59] erm [19:59] you should mind the exploit victims [20:02] someone suggested that we explain +m in the topic of the channel ... your call [20:03] what? [20:03] I don't see the point personally, +m isn't set that often [20:03] absurd idea [20:03] just give them !modes if they ask [20:07] Hello! ppl click here to make my city grow plz! http://xzen.myminicity.com/ [20:07] !staff [20:07] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary, I could use a bit of your time :) [20:07] what happened at 18:37 was *much* worse than what happened during the 19:30 attack... [20:08] Seveas: gone [20:11] grazie [20:15] ir arnducky apologizes in a sec, unban please [20:15] if* [20:16] told him to come in here, he's not malicious just one stupid action [20:18] Um, hello. I got myself banned by mass-pinging a channel... =oC [20:18] arnducky, can we help you [20:18] ehh was that clever? [20:18] uh, no, not clever [20:19] guess you won't do it again? [20:19] nope [20:19] k [20:19] ban lifted [20:19] please /part this channel [20:19] sorry, I just wanted to see if other users were affected by that DoS attack or just my host [20:20] thanks bye [20:20] I told him it'd be a week, but he's very reasonable [20:20] no need for punishment [20:20] thanks ompaul :) [20:21] Seveas, np [20:21] nalioth, ? [20:32] The automated testing for the fix of the DCC exploit hasn't worked. I typed in test me and it sent me a malformed packet, but I don't know if it passed me or not [20:33] just wait a while [20:33] ah, ok [20:34] CoasterMaster, you pass, but you also had another ban on you... let me just check why that was. [20:35] !bootchart [20:35] bootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot [20:35] PriceChild, ok [20:35] my mistake [20:36] CoasterMaster, you've cropped up in #ubuntu-read-topic a couple of times. Please make sure your settings are saved :) [20:36] You may rejoin #ubuntu. [20:37] PriceChild, yeah, I reformat every once in a while and I always forget to change the setting back :( [20:37] but thanks [20:38] PriceChild: hopefully the new default settings on Hardy will help [20:38] jdong, yup... xchat's been fixed but no-one's picked up xchat-gnome afaik :( [20:39] jdong, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/191691 [20:39] Launchpad bug 191691 in xchat-gnome "To prevent dcc exploit, default port should be 8001 for irc.ubuntu.com" [Medium,Confirmed] [20:39] PriceChild: interesting [20:39] PriceChild: that's in main isn't it? [20:40] well I'm afraid I'm powerless to fix it [20:41] actually.... [20:41] !info xchat-gnome [20:41] xchat-gnome (source: xchat-gnome): a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.18-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 313 kB, installed size 816 kB [20:41] I wonder why they uploaded one fix but not the other... especially when both were provided. [20:45] ah because xchat is in universe [20:46] !xchat [20:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [20:46] !info xchat [20:46] xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 300 kB, installed size 808 kB [20:46] disgusting to be honest -gnome should be beyond multiverse - as in only available for gentoo [20:47] * ompaul thought that was funny [20:48] Any staffer around for a cloak request? [20:48]